Episode 91 w/ Bun B

This is your boy in o R. E up his dj e FN and this is his drink chance, motherfucking conglomerate make up. And right now when we talk about leg because the thing about Drink Chats podcast, we said that we're gonna start out and we're gonna only uh interview legends, and you know we're straight away because we got Hollywood. You could say, you know, I'm gonna claiming we got a little Hollywood, but when the guests that we have tonight, there's no way a person could ever

question he's a legend on it. He's came from the bottom the dirt U g K Underground when when the South was actually not even looked at. Now the South is the ship, but back then there was on the battlefield. There was on the battlefield. It was them an outcast, and they were frightening against the whole East coast, and they came in and they stood down. Right now, it's my honor to introduce my brother, my friend, one of the best assisting the works, one of the illest groups

in the world. I'm talking about Bumby from U G. K. Less. I need I need every time I walk in the room. You need to be in a room in the room. But I'm gonna do it every time every artists walking on room. Just gonna introduce you. But listen, here's a deal, bun. And what I just said, this real ship because you came from the era where actually the people who actually frowned on the South. People didn't really want to look at people from the South and say, you guys are lyricists.

So you guys are artists, you guys or whatever. And it was you guys and outcast. That's the only two groups I remember. I apologize if I am. There's a lot of a little groups that I remember. The frame of reference. I respected you know, there's definitely a lot of other people. Three six Field J, the Texas, the ghetto boys, I mean ghetto boys wrap records. You know you wrap a lot of out right now. Yeah you still records can sign no more they still wrapping's respect.

That was that because you know back then they see New York. It's not running the game right now, and you know what, funk us we fucked up. But you gotta relax, like I like, you didn't like that we got more white people coming in. You know what beginning

revolt checks it's going down to listen. So how did you feel in the beginning when when because you was against the text of time, you was against you was playing against the actual uh C. I mean you know back then it wasn't really a lot of money involved. So you as a rapper, what you wanted was like your respect, you know what I'm saying. You wanted to be around other rappers and had them been like, oh,

y'all heard your ship. You're nice with it, you know, And niggas can admit it that if they want to or not. You know, they can say whether they want to or not. But you ultimately as an MC, no matter where you was from. Wanted to come to New York and have the people from New York that you

looked up to acknowledge you as an MC. So for me in the early days, I just wanted to be able to when I sit in front of like Kane or g rap or Lord Finess or Caress one front of these people, you know what I'm saying, that they would be like, oh, Bumby, I heard of you. You nice. You know. It wasn't even guarantee you was gonna make

no money and be famous or none of that. So for me, that was all we wanted was to be able to stand in front of the people that we looked up to and had them basic you know, tip your hat, tipped they hat to us and in case I don't know, if you don't know, we tipped our hat to your guy long time ago. And then one of my favorite songs in the world, and this is this is how you know this is really Look, this is me, it's me. It's not none of y'all, it's me,

but one of my favorite songs. Going to then tell

us my wife I love her. I'm so sorry. I kept I kept my phone on just for probable let's okay, but one of my favorite songs in the world, one of my favorite times and hip hop period, it's when Outcast and Eugi K got together and not only did you do a song, you did a video, you did the whole thing where it was like a wedding or some yeah, And it was crazy because at the time and even really to this day, like man, I'm a person for two man, you know, I sat back, I said, damn,

I wanted to do something like that with Marv D. But we just never got it together. And there was a lot of times like Ugi Can and they all m j G. You know, there's a lot of songs we wanted to do. Please we want your all drink chats, Please come sit on the Scissor was actually was the first song from a group that you G K and three six Mafia was doing together. We were gonna be the underground Mafia. Oh, that would have been Sipping on Scissor.

I don't know too many people know that. A couple of people might know that other records made Like a Pimp, so um, Sipping on Scissor was the record for their album, and the song Like a Pimp was a song for our album. We did them super Bowl weekend in Atlanta, but didn't make any kind of like an EP or projects. We never got definitely we never got that far in too because Pimp ended up getting locked up, so we never even got to finish the project coming back home.

And then, like most people don't know that, the original version of Players Anthem was Us in three, So that's like the return actually of us getting back to underground mafia music, but that version wasn't clear, just sounds underground. I want to be down with Cold. I could never

have been. I said women that, so you know, but I always kind of like, I always kind of like related to you more because although people don't know this, but Pip was kind of like the wild Car, and people think I'm the wild Call of the Croup, but in all actuality, it's camponed you and any other room when everybody when any other MC would probably be the wild Car. But I didn't compone in the room with idiot, didn't know the campone if I'm gonna because he's like

the wilder of the wild brother. Okay, but so that was one of the first things I identified with because you know, Pimp was so outrageous, he was so you know, outspoken and then and then he will always protect you to It's not like he was gonna be outspoken to say you know me and Bud saying no, I'm speaking for my sound because he knew I knew a lot

of people and to travel a lot. You know, Pemple's more of an introversy, and you know he kind of kept usself and this whole thing was like whatever issues he had, he didn't want me to feel like I had to fight his fights for him, Like he felt like he was mad enough to fight his own fight. But you know, I'm gonna be moving around and seeing people, so you're like, yo, I'll be trying to run up on b based on what I said. You know what

I'm saying, which I had a problem with. No way, That's why I still went anywhere I wanted to go. You know, anybody that know me and when they see me, I'm usually one day maybe one other dude, but we're not We're gonna move Yeah, well, I'm talking my younger years. You know, back when we was in my younger years, when we were back on I was like I didn't know that word younger years. So now let's not let's take it to that because said something that still bothers

me to this day. Okay, said that Atlanta is shouldn't be considered the south right because of the time zone. To this day, that's still conflicts in my mind. I'm sure, I'm sure it doesn't make sense to everybody. Miami wouldn't because yeah, no, I'm sure, like I said, one of the basis everybody. But I think what Pep was trying to say, And I'm not trying to make any apologies for him, because people say, look, if I if I finished you with what I said, I apologize, but I'm

not apologizing for what I said. You know what I'm saying. Um, But what Pep was trying to say, it was that, and it was real. At the time when you went to Atlanta, you didn't necessarily feel like you were in the South. Atlanta and Georgia were primarily felt like very southern areas. But at the time, Georgia had a large influxing people from New York and you know what, you know, if you drive down downtown to get by Underground Mall and all of that stuff, you would see dudes with

timberlance on the block. You know, happening in Miami as well, you know what I'm saying. So it was just it wasn't anything against the city of Atlanta or anything like that. It was just like, yo, when you come, when you moved through the South, you're supposed to feel like you're in the South, but when you go to New York, you feel like you're in New York, you know what I'm saying. And but I mean, it was what it was.

I have anybody felt about it, you know, we just I mean, that's just how he felt at the time. You guys, you g K. I just I don't know if you know, but I would like to express this expression is yous. Guys, was one of the first groups from the South that directly identified with New York, even though we were in pan we were doing that or

exactly identifying, but we were exactly identifying. We tried to make ship as simple as possible for people and try to align the ship that we was going through with the ship other people was going through. So we understand the world as a ghetto, you know what I'm saying. So the really the only difference in most of these hoods is the close and the slang. Once you get

past that. You're gonna understand everything that's happening in that neighborhood, you know what I'm saying, And you don't know how to move in that neighborhood. Okay, they winning gamester nights on the West Coast. They're winning rebox in New Orleans. You know, they're wearing timberlands in New York. You know what I'm saying. It's different. Clokay what they mean? Buck fits. I feel like you're racist, you know, I'm sure you

know what the grat is so true? We really do here. Yeah, no, and in the South, Like you see a dude walking around in the South with the pants of the tumbles from here, but we just wanted to identify with that, so they're okay. So once we go and see these things, we realize, okay, outside of the clothes and and the and the talk, the world is a ghetto. So we're just gonna talk about the ship that we see every day and half and and just assume that that's pretty

much the ship everybody's seeing every day, you know. And that's my question to you, because you guys being from the South and you guys from the real South, and I don't mean that any other part the South what we to call it deep South. We like to call the deep shop Deep Shop. Like when I'm listening to the Pepsie and I'm listening to where he's coming from and he's saying that it's a different time zone all that. How did you know that if you spoke about your hood,

the world will relates to that. I didn't before you answer that, Before you answer that, because I never made the Worry for for the world. I made the war report from our hood. I can't believe Europe when I go out there and these white people like you. I didn't make this for you. But and I think everybody's

like that, Norry. I think I think you know, you make your first album for the hood, you make your second album for the world, and then if you would get that far, you make you start making music for yourself. You know what I'm saying. No, but that's what it is, man. Again, That's all you want to do because you don't really know if anybody's gonna be checking for you outside of your neighborhood. But you don't. Nigga's in the hoods waiting to listen just to see the case you sunk up. Really,

that's what it is. So it's like, yeah, I gotta make sure I stund hard so nigga's gonnam not playing, so that when I go out and be like I'm from the niggas, no back into dun them, that when I leave, I'm rapping that because if you don't rap home, right, you can't go back. At least that's where I'm from. You know what I'm I don't know anybody else. Now, Wrap a Lot Records, Yes, J Prince hold one of the most legendary relations ever. And you guys, how how

was that to even be affiliated with Rappings? It was a trip because when we when we went to rap a Lot, it was it was in the midst of everything going crazy with job Regor's Rap a Lot. They came and tried to sign you g kn't really was already know. He was like he wanted to bring us over the rap a Lot and we was like, well we number one in all the situation. We don't want to go and have to be behind the ghetto boys in scar face. That was one thing. Pemple was like,

we go sign with anybody. They already got their roster and we got to find all the spot. But if we stay in all the spot we number one on our roster that we didn't never got to fight for position. So but then once we got into the job system, we realized we were just in their roster. They wouldn't be gad about it. So we just you know, we operated in a way where it was like we don't get the support from the label. We don't get the

back and from the label. We don't get real money from the label, visual support market and none of that ship. So we're just gonna move like we ain't even on no label. We're gonna make sure we're doing shows. We're gonna make sure we still doing records with motherfucker's and still trying to get money whatever, and until later us we can't do something, we're just gonna just keep independent grinding.

So for us, we spent a lot of years arguing with the record company and we would would literally eat off of like doing features and pimp making beats for niggers and just being out on the road and doing shows and ship y' y'all on job before yeah y'all. Original record company was Big Time Records. That was the independent label we signed to, and then they did a deal with Jive and ninety and like May and ninety two, and we stayed on Jove Records all the way up

until after Pimp passed away. Um, but our solo albums was with rap a lot, and it came at a time where like Pimp was locked up and you know, we were stifled by the A company and we just needed to get the message out. And so j Prince was the one that that helped me get into position. Because what I said I wanted to do a solo album. I was like, no, we're not working with that and Pimper and Jail and he ain't making the music and he ain't on the record, Like the baby saying Pippers

the ship. You you just kind of like the sidekick and she's not gonna pop up without you, and so and so I left and went to Asylum and put out a solo record, sold seven fifty independent. You know what I'm saying. Let me tell you something, as a person that's up and that ain't no streams down over that that CD person as a two man group, a part of a two man group, the love that you guys have for each other was something that I admired. It's something that I treasure. It's something that I looked

out for. And if here's the crazy ship and was gonna tell you I was the biggest you g K friend, But Pimp C was the person he that's not going to do it, just do a record with you. He asked the question you. He has the question you. He has to hang out with you, and I kid you. Look look, he told me I'm doing a record with your noise, but he still wanted to hang out. And we said that, and we tell him we hung out for our like from like seven o'clock and even until

like easy three and the more easily three. Yeah, yeah, but that's not the time that I know. But that that was the thing. What um, what pimp is what I respected is he heard about me, he heard I was a real nigger, but he still wanted to meet me, and he still wanted to look at me face to face. And that's the thing is I take that to me since today, like you know, anybody who's you know, I don't give I could love your record, but now I want to hang out with you know, nine records, that's

recording hip hop that required two people. Ain't even got the two people in the same room. You know what I'm saying, it's probably more more than that. You know, more motherfucker's actually do records, have a hit record and don't even meet the mother to the videos from we come from an hour that even if I wanted to send y'all the record, I can't send you right now. Yeah, I gotta come get it. I gotta go. I'm coming with you at you gotta come to mind, because that's

the only way we can physically do this. Otherwise I gotta send my whole record. And that definitely has a change the dynamics of the way, you know, the music comes out of the well for one, and you for one. You don't get into a situation where like nowadays, dudes get into situations and do songs and they'd be deep in the motherfucking life and don't even really know who they're fucking with, and then something happens and you start

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knowing who nobody is now, Like I don't know. Oh, you see a situation where motherucker got beef and you just noticed they did man records with that person just a year ago or six months ago, and now they beat for like a motherfucker because they never built up. That's what I never understood, because that ship is a lot of That ship is so easy to square either on either on they drinking drink I'm drinking where like beef is very easy to squash, very easy to pop off.

Like most of these people go to the same ship, invited to the same ship. So if you really wanted to get asked them and with social media and you can neither send somebody at d M or you can tag get phone I get anybody phone up. I'm sure anybody could get my phone up if they wanted to hard enough. So all that talk and in flexing and ship on like the Graham or whatever you want to call it, all that ship like that, that automatically tells me that I feel like nobody real in the situation.

That's just me from the outside looking in. Because any time I have asked, any time I ever had, I saw a situation where it was wrong. This is not my staff, this is not where it was on like people was moving on it because I don't think people realized like what he said on the reference rooms, more fuckers didn't really make like we're playing. They wouldn't. If they could get at you, they would get at you. If they couldn't, then maybe they might recollect make a

regular letter. They you know, they're trying to it, but they were actively trying to get at motherfucker's you know, not one of the things off top. I gotta I gotta bring up, I gotta talk about it. It's trail. Your brothers bring that word trail to the game. Trail is overused right now. These guys are using it, they're not really understanding where they got it from. And it's a problem now. Like we at first speak about it at first, like sling right, Like it's very hard to

like quote copyright slang. I've never caught right in my slam. But but then people get to trying to capitalize, the monopolize, and that one we had a problem because now you're trying to make some money off of something that I wasn't even trying to make money off of, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, exactly, So like we had to copyright ship just to protect it protected, you know what I'm saying, And then you still get people trying to

make money. Yeah, but then people still assault the brand, and like I just had a meeting with some young kids, you know what I'm saying, And then there they love the city, they love the culture, and they're trying to do something to represent the culture. When I see that, I know that it's not somebody trying to appropriate my ship and appropriate the culture. I can work with you, you know what I'm saying, Let's do a shirt together.

But then when I see people that are old enough to know, right, because the kids I'm talking about like they don't know. But when I see like a thirty five, thirty six year old motherfucker out here trying to sell stuff, you know. I tried to let a lot of things wash over because I didn't think it would be as aggressive as it was. But with social media and like the especially especially the Instagram, I ain't trased it with.

I tried with associate half of it, but then people started becoming very like actively trying to just steal from the brand that had no good I'm keeping neat, Oh you keeping neat. Keep And then you know, the wife was like, look, this is becoming too much. People are just doing too much. You know what I'm saying, They're doing too much. Like I was going to shoot a couple of people for you probably wouldn't even call to you,

just did it. And I'm like when it comes to music and that kind of stuff, I don't mind that, you know what I'm saying, Just make sure you about that if we run up. If we run up, I ain't saying run up to fight you. But if I'm ever in the room with you, you know what I'm saying. If you choose to call yourself that, just please come across as this. You know what I'm saying. Like if you, if you, if you get on the regular, I know if I do a regular than Trill was always more

than just a word. It was a way of life. It was something that kind of spoke to a way of life. So it was about the way that you carried yourself. Triill originally started in the Texas, in the penitentiary system. You know what, that's the world. So that word came home to p a from the penitentiary and eight. So it was a word that I'm sorry from to

put off the Texas. That's so the homie came home East Coast when you say Pennsylvania, so the holy Little Block came home from jail, and Little Block started talking, started talking about true and he was one of the first people to really use that term. And deviend Actually a lot of people on the west side of town started using it, and then people and put out in

general just started using it. So when we started making music, we were like, well, this is a word that not only represents who we are and where we're from, but we'll also separate us from everybody that's already in hip hop, people in Dallas. But it was separate. It was separated from Mary. Yeah, so it wasn't our thing, but it was. It was always in terms of where we were from, you know. So we always give credit to the homes.

And that's why when we copyrighted, it was never to just go out and sell T shirts and merchant none of that ship, but to protect the integrity of this ship, because I'm responsible for that ship. You know what I'm saying. When they see niggas misusing tril, they don't get mad at them, they get mad at me. Like you out there, like we hear the projects, we can't get it. You gotta go to l A and check rockdas. You gotta go over to these places to check these dudes. You

know what I'm saying. No, damn, that's that's very true. That's the obligation, you know what I'm saying. And so and I can get busy and called upself. So my wife is a real good rounded she'd be like, yo, somebody trying it again, let's pick up your wife. What I'm saying, But because why did like yo, if they if they eat, that's money out of our podcast. And that's why we weren't even trying to get She like, we ain't out here like exploiting it. So if they're

gonna exploit it, it's not right. I think I agree with your White be the shooter's number before we leave. No White used to shoot. No, no, no, no no, you can't have wife to go to jail. We're gonna give them the shore. Gonna shoot. Shouldn't get me to get to go to jail. But listen, and here's the thing, bun, And I'm sorry, I'm going to a little dark place, but we recently just lost Prodigy real and the thing

about that is, uh, your partner, your two man. So what could be your advice to have it right now? It's just the first thing you gotta do is support the family as much as you can. That's it, right. And now sometimes the family doesn't want to be supported right sometimes because yeah right, And sometimes you know they have an idea of what they want to do, like with Pamp's wife for example, Um, she had an idea

of what she thought her husband's legacy should be. People think that I should take the lead and have the idea of what his legacy should be started. For one second, everybody wanted you to to to k but but you know how much you respected Pam. It's not It's deeper than that. It's not even just it's deeper than the respect I have a pimp. Should anything happen to me, right or wrong, I would hope that people support my wife.

That's all I'm ask you know what I'm saying. If if she's right or she's wrong, if she wants to run it into the ground, then let her do that. But please, like, just just just support her. Right. If she don't know, she don't know, no better try to tell her. If she don't want to listen, just support as much as you as much as you can write

without compromise yourself. That that's all you can do, you know. Um, Like I said, people, Um, the wife has an idea, and maybe the kids have an idea, and maybe the mother has an idea. Different people have different ideas of how they feel the legacy should be maintained. The consumer, the listener to the fan base because they don't know as much about his personal life, assumes that the closest

person to him is meet. So people always like, yo, Bunny, I know you got pimpsy versus I know you've got U G K songs. And I have to educate people about how that works, like, no, the estate has everything. Once passes away, then the estate gets all them, Like my I mean, I got forty two songs. I don't have any pimpsy music on. It's not because I don't want it, because it's much. It's it's more profitable to the estate in their hands than it is in my hand,

you know, And we want them to eat. That's what we want, you know, So we you know, whether we agree, look no, but it's just being real because and I gotta leave by Apple because because you got you got seventeen point versus I've never used one. You just don't want to be And the other thing is that you know, and if too many people lean on the legacy, then they can't it can't rise, right. If everybody's holding onto it, then they can't really rise with the angels like it's

supposed to. So it's my job to keep ship off his name keep dirt off his name and to keep people from attaching themselves or something that they really want to part to. You know, you you don't want to talking about bitch ass nigger. Yea nigger. Now let's take it. I know we spoke about it a little bit earlier, but Biga man still international calling car any country I go when they sue, because they sue jay Z every year for like every do they sue y'all? So here's

so it's what happened. This is this is what was crazy about the whole thing. When we did the song. What was like, Yo, I want to buy the mission on this and we were like, he wanted to buy our publishing on the show, and so we were like, what do you mean. He was like, Yo, we kind of want to keep all of this. And at the time, this was a very strange beat. This was not something that pimp really wanted to do. And they were and they were really they were going towards the Mariah record.

At the time, he had a record with Mariah and now I was supposed to be the one. This was like something in a row. So they but they had

they were cash flush. So and he's like, yeah, we want to buy you out on this, you know what I'm saying, Like fully, and we was in this place where like Yo're like yo, You're like, we'll take it, you know, And then the song becomes literally you have to understand at one point, this is the biggest record in the world, Like I'm looking at the B d S numbers and it's like five thousand, seven thousand, eleven thousand.

I've never seen anything like this with anything period. And then my name is attached to it, and like we start trying to do the math. We don't even know the intricacies of this ship, but they start trying to like let's just say five cents, nigger, you know what I'm saying. But we start trying to do the math on it's like yo's it's a lot of money, and

we're up on the table. And then of course Pim gets locked up at the lawsuit because the lawsuit doesn't happen until pimp goes to jail, Okay, so then the lawsuit happens, and then the money is sucked up anyway because happy group is locked up. So then it's like yo, they getting shoot, Like Yo, we ain't get nothing. We didn't get ship they can't get nothing from so they go to prison and they get the lawyer and do to that position, like, yo, we worked for High my nigger.

We got nothing to do with that. And then they come to me, I do work you know, didn't work for Hi. So we still got the shows, we still got the increase in fan base, We still taking ahead, and it was beautiful, like I want a lie, Like at the time, that was way more money than we had gotten paid for wrap. Let me just take something

the ship. I don't know if you know, and you know, jay Z's not paying me at all um to say this, but I remember jay Z going to Angie Martinez and going to like DJ enough saying that, like and they said, why did you put you g K on the joint? And he said, huk yo, he wouldn't big y'all up so crazy. And I don't know if y'all understood that. We see so a lot of people don't know that we got the call before there was Pimp C was

actually supposed to be on just a week ago. We're too short, so but this was in the middle of the East Coast West Coast beef and Jay wasn't leaving New York. So when we called Pimpther like I want you on this record, people was like, yeah, just come on Atlanta. I got the studio at the house. We can knock it out of the house. Like Jay like, I'm not leaving New York right now. So peoples like ship,

I ain't even the South right now? Get the and the never happened, and then we got the call again um for Big Pempon and then it eventually it eventually came to get because see me, me as being a hip hop fan, I was aware of U g K was, But for me seeing a person that's a quote unquote above me and begging people up like that, I was like, damn, because you know, I don't know if people know. Like Juvenile's first feature was with me, the band's first feature

was with me. I've been bigging up the South were first feature. Yeah, Up the South for years? Uh E. I can you going on Little Ways, Little Away and cash money for me? I definitely by J beat me. You ain't gonna pack this, but you were super dug of the game. And that's what I'm trying. Look at that that good my bad rock No, But I'm like,

that's that's the last. The thing is that that that feature of that class correboration from the South, because I always felt like it's no difference, and who's the fun. The world's agether. The world is agether. And if you notice, if you look at all those names, all those those artists that hooked up, those people represent the hoods and not just people that are popping. Those are people that

represent the hood. So it's not a mistake that Nori and EU GK makes a record a camera and U g K makes a record that little Wayne and makes a record that's not It shouldn't be a surprise to anybody. We speak to the same people, just in different places, in different accents. That's the only difference. My nigga. Now when you look at it's Travis Scott from Travis Scotts, Houston. He's and he tries to put it in the music.

And if you're from Houston, you listen to it. He's saying everything to let you know, like he's on the new um this is a record. He's like, I'm from it's that Most City that side because he's from Missouri City, but in the Hood they call it Most City. So he's trying to do it, but he doesn't make the music that's automatically identified with You know, he came in the game in Atlanta, signed the TI I That's how

he came in. Yeah traffic is originally Yeah. Tia always said that that he always has a good time in the studio and gets along with everybody. The only person he's ever disagreed with the studio is Travis, because Travis has a very clear idea of how his music should sound and he know it too. If you listen to it like nobody, it doesn't sound like anything else anybody

is doing. And that's why most people don't connect him to music, because he's so closely and social associated with Kanye and you know what and t I. But but he's not from either one of those places. He's bred from a different place. But that's the one thing music did you you identify it with? It means no, no, not at all. But I'm I'm from a different error, you know what I'm saying. So so in different places, in a different just a different I'm a different city.

But even more so, it's the time difference in the generational gap. And I like Travis because I don't want motherfucker's to feel like they gotta lean or that they need to lean on Pimp C and DJ Screw forever. Like that was a great time. It was a beautiful time for the city. But you can't. But I'm just saying, like, the city can't grow if we don't move past June seven. You don't say dem birthday. It's a good thing to celebrate, and it's a great thing to acknowledge, but we got

to show the growths past that. Yes, this is what when when Screw is looking down on us and people looking down on us, they don't want to they don't want us to keep concentrating on what they did. They're waiting for one of us to pick up the goddamn for time. So like, and I'm back in the lab now because I sat around for four years and I was like, I'm waiting to see who's gonna do what. And then I realized, like, Nigga, you the o G You can't expect eighteen. You know, Nigga's twenty one year old.

Niggas twenty four. You not not to represent me, but but to save their generation. Older heads have always given younger heads game, but now it's just young heads given young heads games. So it's the blind leading the blind, and we got comfortable houses and cars and we can sit around and complain like our children is the only children that we need to worry about. But when m C has come to me and say, yo, yo, you raised me, I have agation to that. MC's you know

what I'm saying, that's an obligation. When people come up and say, yo, y'all music raised us. Y'all niggas told me this, then that means that they're still looking for whatever I gave them. And if I was the only person they gave it to him them, then I need to beat the motherfucker giving it to him now. And that's why we think that goddamn bun bund you got responsibility. No, we all do. We all do. Especially we ain't good. That's the reality. Especially we ain't good. I'm gonna throw

him more on you than me. I got you, I got you, because you know why, bun Like, we can't save everybody. We gotta try to save somebody, so you can't go back and save the whole host some of them, some of them don't want to say anymore than what's being done. They want women to take care of them, you know what I'm saying, So they on some other ship. Anyway, we have to come. But you might not agree with this, but I say that our generation. I say because of

the age group, our generation dropped the ball. No, it's sting at some point, you know. I'm gonna tell you what happened. First of all, people got scared of catching the cases that they knew they were getting into, so they started putting drugs and guns and young niggas and hands that were under eighteen that they knew wouldn't necessarily get real time. But what they did was stop the opportunity to progress. Right. So then young niggas got older.

And I'm gonna tell you another thing, because nobody want to talk about I'm glad we're talking about this on dream chat. There's a lot of niggas that went into houses and manipulated women for sex and money and put them on drugs. And little niggas sat in those houses and watch niggers do that, and out they're old enough

and they remember what you did to their mom. That's why young Donna respect what I say identified with but it's exact part of why this is one of the reasons why, because they gave they put cases on them that they knew your niggas would never shake. They got montas that put credit on their name that they can't and now they got niggas in their life in these houses putting values that they can't shape. But stop right there. But this here's the I want you to finish your ship.

But I've seen a meme the other day and they said, how the fuck you mad at mumble rap? You so crack to their moms and the ship. Let me tell you something, mumble wrap is. I don't even like that term. I don't even like young niggas. I don't like nobody putting a term on nigga because, to be honest, just being real, twenty years ago, twenty five years ago, when they didn't understand the Southern slang and the twin and the way we bent our words, but they could have

called that, so that ain't no difference with that. And I tell you, I tell I tell that you, thank you. I tell people all the time, man, y'all need to get offended at that ship. You know what I'm saying. They should be offended about that ship. They shouldn't take if they want to take it and reclaim it and

and shoot on the people that did it. Then that's fine, but they need to be offended by that because that when people say, your mum, and that means they really don't want to take the time and listen to what you got to say. That's what that me. That's all that tell me, because I know what they're talking about.

When you first listen to a young thug record and you never heard it before, you gotta bag it up and listen to it again, and you gotta wait until you figure out, Okay, wait a minute, there's a pattern to this. There's he's saying words, but I don't normally hear these words bent like this. I don't hear hear him something like this. They're usually not inflected in this tone,

on this syllable, So I don't. I didn't know that's what he was saying because I ain't never heard that word said like that, right right exactly, and I didn't. Once you get it, you're like, oh, Nick, this is you know when yeah, exa, And it takes a while to figure out what to me goes the same. Once you figure out, right, yo, these dudes are killing it. And that's what we're trying to do at Drink Chaps with volt TV audio boom, audio boom. What we're trying to do is we're trying to we don't want to

school people on hip hop. We wanna we wanna give you our version of hip hop. Want you don't want to sound, you don't want to like blind, We're gonna send it. But this is the deal. Here's the deals around. Here's a deal. Here's a deal. You know, um, you know our of all TV, we got great people. We've got people from Queens that work there. We got people from motherfucking everywhere that worked there. And you know what it is, here's the beautiful part about it. If we

all representing the same culture. It's hip hop, and you know what, our version might be different, their version might be different. But the thing gets as long as we wrapping the hip hop, we didn't we didn't know, that's the reality. We didn't know. I sat in Texas, I looved in New York on TV and I just didn't know. You know, people say in New York with Texas on TV looking at Dallas and then like that, and they didn't know. We all hear A little deserved was a drink.

We look at London and we looked at London and we don't even black people were getting drunk. That's what I thought, you know, you know some of it, like Sarah was, yeah, look at and that's the thing, real talk. We were never telling people what it was. Somebody gave it away in the end of you I'm not gonna, I'm not here to blast them. They know who they are. Definitely need but they're they're a good friend and they

didn't they didn't realize what they were doing. But but the understanding between everybody's like, we're not gonna just actually say what this is. But then somebody actually said it and then it kind of became what it was. But it was never just us because Philly Niggas was wanted at the same that's how well we know, like, well, if you want to talk about that Mississippi, Alabama Nigga said yellow too, and Tennessee, so you're in Tennessee, Niggas

talk about scissor. That wasn't really purple, that wasn't red, sir, that was jealous. That was the activists, activists active. This is what they sell now. Because the original sur brand was called bar b a r E. So when big most things about the bar Baby and we rap about sipping ball, that's what we talked about because the original brand, pharmaceutical brand that sold it was a company called bar B A r r E. And that's where the name came from. So people still say sipping ball, but they're

not really sipping ball. They're probably sipping activists. And what we used to sip was like sweet because they're early medicine to be tight. I don't even know, don't sipping. And that's why we had the screw tapes and the music slowed down like that to try to excre my schemes. But we never knew that ship was gonna We never expected that ship to really get past where we were. We didn't speak for anybody to understand. And now it's

so big. Even if you were the screw getting a just old Ward before Justice, they had to make they had to literally make a category for him because they created an entirely new styllar dj wow. But they gave it and the awards were like a ring I think I got just gave me a little like a boom box that he made it just crip. Yeah, she was dope. It was my favorite or whatever. I remember being there watching Slave slap Pudgy p with the plaque. We definitely here about this, but let's get into it. Oh that

was me. So the only people after just old wards from the South that year was me, and I think was me and killing Mike. I don't know. It's a year slag slap Puggy, but Puggy pa Puggy, I don't know pug It was a DJ from Yeah, it was Puggy PJ from someone, I'm not sure. But he had been talking greasy about slave. So Slay had just won his award and went off to like sway Slave was hitting him. That's what I'm talking about, my twin. So he had just won his award and it went to

the back to so he was doing. So he like get in the press like woooo. Pudgy goes up and I don't know if he performed or one or something, but he was on stage and he said some slick ship and Slay moved immediately, and so the whole area got crazy. And the only nigga I know is killing Mike, and I'm the only nigga he know. So he got a tube by four. I gotta five hundred and we're back to back like we're getting out of here. We're

going on because ain't nobody know who he is. If you didn't come with who, you fight with you, finn swing, that's how I'm moving if you if you ain't come with me, if you ain't come with me, and you between where I'm trying to get to, we're fnna move you. And so we realizing immediately in the moments going down, and they just kind of happened like that. But if they it was open about maybe five seven minutes. It happened real quick. But it was funny. That was funny. Drama,

especially the little Sid is the drama king. He not only plays drama, he addresses drama. Addresses drama. Now. One of the best times in my life was when I hung out with both of you brothers together and I bring you out of that frak city. This is my first time I left fracking, my first time, mean, but this was a crazy way that's your first time meeting. I thought it was crazy, like I'm a Miami duties

of Texas during the first time. We're gonna meet us in the project, in the project and you know, last night and my Greatest night Ka straight at the bottom the Champago, what's the ship with the yellow rap? Christal dright at the bottom? DTS drove by three times. I remember every time, Um, I watched under age dude slap over age dude commented an everything on the side just like yo, and it was hilarious everything um corner beef

because somebody pressed somebody. I'm not naming on it, but somebody pressed somebody and didn't know that he was working for somebody else. So that became a thing like yo. So I needed somebody need to shoot you to five for that because you didn't know. Um there was an an all and the all got got he got shot to five. He got shot. He got shot the five.

And then while that happened and his keys flew out his hand, the other young homie, I don't want to say his name, but he being used it with me and truck all the time to being Texas shout out to him kept his foot I've never kept his foot on his keys for two and a half hours, while he was looking everywhere for his keys, they were right there on the one dude shoot for two and a

half hours. He never moved. He kept that was an amazing night, and trying to get a cab home, trying to get a cat still black, and trying to get a cat from left rack back. We can't get a cat. Yeah, but let me just tell you something. That was one of the most memorable moments for my life, because you know why, I don't realize how out of control my

hood is because I'm just a part of it. Like you came with me yesterday and I feel like I feel like you finally realized, like okay, and it was ill because you were faking it was look at the blink. I'm sorry telling you. It's good. It's good. I thought it was beautiful because Norri was my all accounts famous at this point, right, and he's in he's intellections and he's on the block with his homies and even brought

us out there and he's in his hood. And it was like you probably don't know this, but ever since I ever since you did that, every time somebody comes to Houston, I picked them up. I ride him around and people don't know why this happened. I picked them up a ride around and take them straight, Like where do you want to go in Houston? I want to go to fifth Ward. I want to go back to the school. I'm just giving you real I'm just giving

you real ship. I'm like, yeah, I'm so gass because my thing is if I can't do for people in my city with NOI did for me, they're not real. They're not real. But damn that's that's because you never even acted like you was the hard sneak out of left right, Like you know what I'm saying, but you know that you can go home, but you know you could, but you know you could go home, right, And there's a lot of people that can't go home. You know

what I'm saying. Home yesterday and everybody, let me tell you something, that was the best compliment I ever got in my life, because that's the real ship. The thing about it is a lot of us we come from the hood. A lot of people say, oh, this dick head can't come back to the not because I go right back and rich and prod we're talking about the and and then when to go back, here's the crazy ship they leave because you know, I was really a shooter. I never had a shooter, like I know serious, I

was the shooter. So when I come back everybody leaves and it's like it's weird. So for me, I was always I was always a storyteller. I was always to do like I came, I went to Houston and came back to put author. Yo, this is a blank like I went to Houston came back, Yo. But this is the basic. This is wet Yo. I left, went to Houston, came back. This is hisserve. I went to Houston back like I would always bring all that type of ship too. But that's a big thing right there, because you know

what you just said, right my very importance. You said you went to Houston and you went to Paul Author. See, most people who listen to this, they don't realize that, Yeah, if I went half away from Houston, like I'm faces from Houston, I'm closer to Louisiana than I am in Houston from and like all my families from Louisiana. But there was there was only if you wanted to make music, you had to go to Houston. Houston like that was where you had to go to make your bones about music,

you know what I'm saying. So for us, it was a no brain like we didn't even have real recording studios put author, you know what I'm saying. But we had people that wanted to be real m c s. I'm listening. So we just kept going at it, kept going at it, and eventually we went to the flea market one day and kid the flea Market had it in Houston, had to sign in in his store and

he said, we're looking for demos. And we got back in the car, drove back to put the Author, got the demo, drove back to the flea market, played him the demo and he was like, Okay, we're four deep in the old school prelud. You remember the old prelude that they have no back seat? Were four deep? Want to I want to have the whole other city. I wanted to go a little deeper right now. But let's go.

How did you and Pimp even meet? Me? And Pimp had a mutual friend Mitchell Queen, and pimp was his name was Mitchell Quinn Big Mitch, and Mitch was rapping with and he was he was rapping with Pimp before I was. And I had an idea who Pimp was, and I ain't really liked him, and Pimp had an idea of who I was, and like me, he liked me. We met at like a football game, and he fronted me about some ship and I actually proved I don't

want to get too deep in it. I got saved some ship for the book, like my wife said, I said, for the book. He fronted me on something I proved myself right, and from that point on we became real tight because I thought he was a certain type of dude and he approached me a certain way that I ain't expect from him, and then I handled it a certain way that he didn't expect from me. And then we realized and this is this is literally like my

junior years, sophomore year. Yeah, nothing that before we were making music because he was already man, I wasn't even really rap. That was k first album name K's first. Our first project was The Southern Way. But he and Mitchell Queen to do what I'm talking about with you g K. First Wait, wait, it wasn't. No, I'm not one of the original members of ug Cat, but that's what the book. But that's what the I can smacked myself, you g K Whitey book coming so, but it's not

an actual album that came out. No, no, no, just as a group, and then because what it was when they were two men, they were a group, and then I ended up being in another group. So when we got together we as a four man group, we became a totally different group. And then when the dude hurt because the demo we made was just the four man group. So someone like, I want to sign y'all. But one of the other two dudes had a football scholarship. He was like, I'm going to play football. And then the

other dude was like a football like prodigy. He was like a prospect, but he was a junior. So he's like, yo, I'm gonna I want to play ball like him, So I'm to concentrate onitial and get a scholarship. So it ended up just kind of being me and paim let me ask you, Let me ask you a question, being from Houston, being from the Rolling more Weed on how we good? Right now? You're good? Had a scar face

player roll. So scar Face was the first time scar Face was this is all right, So I don't want to go I ain't gonna tell that strike like wife, you said, you're gonna tell everything, but I will say scarface one time. I want to say scar face was the first like real rapper with a record out that I've ever seen in my life. He came to he came to a show that I was at and rapped and this was scared Face back when he used to

wear the suit in the hat. And he was the first time I've ever been in the in the room with somebody that actually had made a record. And that changed my perspective on who gets to make a record? Why did not that scar Face wasn't special, but that you didn't have to just be from New York l A to actually be able to make a rap record and then go and get shows away from where you from. So you're walking aroom when a win a bathroom and escaping marine, I feel like scarf Face gotta figure out

shoot on like a Sioux suit. Yeah, I definitely was off. I was wrong. So I described the scene you guys show he's with Kay Reino. I'm in the bathroom, Hey Reno. I feel like it's cares one cousin. He from that era. Ka Rio was like the first bout. Ka Rio was like the first original battle rapper from Houston, like eighty eight. He still like the dude that will like he guys, he got like that he's to dude right now, right now,

like he will too bar you to death. Well he had two part boom boom like death like he's got it. He got what he called the Black Book and it's literally thirty years of wrapping there. But um yeah, and then we were freestyling in the room and me and my man David Forrest, um d a from the Black Monks. We were hurting niggas. We were hurting the Black Monks. That was a rap group, the Black Monks shot out the old school that he really did, I really did, I really did. Look we were in there like me

and because we went to the same high school. To guess, we were like bodying niggas. And then facing Krino comes in and face doesn't even wrap Kino the sixteen bars and then they just walk out and they just kind of just go home. But did you know how how classic Like I don't want to say that pemp c was out of lis after he died, because he just wasn't appreciated until he died, That's what you said. Because I people didn't realize how much of the U g

K library he produced. They didn't realize how much music outside of U g K. He produced UM and he didn't Yeah, yeah, see see what I'm saying. That's what I'm talking about. And people didn't really know that. And people didn't know that he and he was He didn't make beats, he was a producer. He had a real discipline for music, and people didn't really realize that outside

of the South. I think Willie D was the first person to say, people think we just lost a rapper, We lost way mold than a rapper, you know what I'm saying. And that was what really made him great to the people in the South because they knew my bad. I'll tell you something funny. Ice Q wouldn't do a record of me unless he seemed to me in the studio, and PIMC was the same way. PIMC said, I think I think he's a real nigger, but I gotta I gotta be sure, because Nigga is a real good, realigo uniform.

And war just think you got to go to this meeting to get your real nigger uniform. Right, you already consigned each other to leave each other along and it was like six seven hours were in the studio. We just keep going and Buttons like, all right, everybody coslines with each other, Let's finish the rector because I've done you already know, if wet, I'm probably the first person down with the rids. I'm just sitting around way for everybody else know. But I appreciated that so much. I

appreciate it, though, did you your two brothers together? I appreciate that y'all love for each other because y'all love for each other was the same exact way that me and Capone love each other, meaning that I ain't gotta show Capone love on camera. I ain't gotta fun with him. I'm gonna ask you. I ask you a couple of questions. You should love it, and you should ask answer these in a way that's very predictable. Yes, with you and Pone. Did y'all have the same friends? No? Did y'all like

the same kind of woman? No? Did y'all handle money the same way? No? But y'all made amazing music and history they got damn it. That's that's it. That's it. This is y Yang, right, you see what I'm saying. This is Yin and Yang, and that's why that ship hurt work. And when I watched E P m D and groups like that, right, the two man groups. And if you couldn't find too many two different niggas in

parishing area. Right, But that's but because separate, right, but but but that means that we encompass everything that all with hoods, because that's the one thing we shared is our hood. You know what I'm saying, Like, that's the one thing you upo y'all left right, Nigga, no, no, no, crazy but Queen but Queens it's a different diss it work. Crypto made it work. Was we're from two different hoods,

and that that'sn't even deeper inning. You know, listen, let me just tell you because me and Pimple from the same neighborhood. I can't go to Queensbridge. I went to Queen's Bridge just now. It's not my left rack, guys there, I went to left rack. There's nothing queen there but me and Capone set that up. And we didn't know what we were doing. We just had love for each other and we said, you know what funk that, we're gonna We're gonna mess with each other. And here's there.

I'm glad he's alive and glad he's still here. Because we hugged hugged them the other day and I said, damn, and he said, look this, it's left right Queen's ridge. And then he came to left rock. He said, I said, look this queens. He said, if we set that up, and then I gave him a hug, and it's beautiful. It's a beautiful thing. Because haw, did it not meant for us that that we all leave respective legacies? And yes, yes, some of them bigger than others, but we all leave.

We said precedents in from one right? Were of us are the first nigger times you use that word A lot of us are the first Niggers from my old hoods that did that or saw that brought that. What I'm saying, pressist, you know what I'm saying, No, no, because I just won't laugh at you. Just try to

say it. I'm dyslexic. Just say I'm dyslexic. But no, no. But and because of the fact that we were those people that set those presidents dudes that normally would it be like for example, you g K, we come from put off the Texas. The next time to us is Bonumont, Texas. Beef years like beef physical, physical guns all of that. We were the first put off the niggas to actually be able to go to bonmout like have a concert

and let niggas mean muggas. But but like, look, eventually the music one over and they realized that, look, whether we like these dudes or not, nobody even know where we're from. These dudes are actually kind of representing the whole. Because we wouldn't just say put after, we'd be like, yo, we're from the Golden Triangle. The Golden Triangle is put

off the whole. And so even though put off the niggas might beef with Bonmone niggas and beef with Orange niggas, if we got to go to use if a Bonmone nigga and put off the niggas in Houston and they get into it with Houston, they're gonna shoulder to show. We gotta get back home and then we'll deal with that later. It's like street beef versus it's like the street versus the penitentiary. In the street, we would beef in the pending. Now we gotta lock up. It's a

different it's a different dynamic. I'm not gonna get into it, but you're talking about it, and I'm like, I don't want to know what you had to choose. It's terrible. You don't need to go to jail right now. Ever ever, listen, but now it came on one time with Pam actually got on land the radio and he shoot up everybody. And I wouldn't say he shipping or everybody. He was very honest about how he saw the world, how I

saw the world. And you know what I'm saying that people if we was scared to be honest about how they see ship people. You want to say, now we understand that. But back then that was too advance. No, no, And even I was like, what is he doing because and there were people that were like, yo, um, this is crazy, like people are gonna people are about to go off on Pimp. I'm like, na, this will probably be fifty fifty and they were like, you're crazy, like

Atlanta ain't the East coast. But I'm like, you don't understand how people love pim C. This will probably be about fifty fifty. And then and it became that kind

of a situation. Now, I'll be honest, I think it's like everybody agreed with Pimp, but I did too, and it was because Pimp had been very honest and open and eventually right about a lot of ship before they so when he gave that opinion, even people that lived in Atlanta kind of had to be like, I know what, I know what he's saying, but then I also know what he means, right, And maybe he didn't and maybe maybe he didn't see it in the right way, but I know what he meant because then he was like, Yo,

you're saying Atlanta with the gay capital of the world. And he's like, okay, right, And at that time, people like, yo, you were wrong for that, But now in retrospect, if you go Atlantic small, I'm sorry it's and I'm not saying there's nothing wrong with being gay, but I'm sorry.

He was running something like a lot of black people that are trying to explore their sexuality or trying to confirm their sexuality or finding themselves in Atlanta, in Atlanta, Georgia, and it's been like that, and that was there was a very ugly undercurrent of people that were on the download, and that was another thing he was trying to expose

because we knew it. Because here's the thing, Pimsey was not homophobic, Pimsey had no problem with gay People's problem was quit hiding the fact whatever you are would be that, yes, because you're sucking up, and he would say that the problem when you're down a little, you're up the pussy population, right, And that was his problem. If you gave b gay, let everybody know who you are so we can identify that and separate that and be like, okay, so you

leave the women alone. You don't have to program. I'm gonna cut you off for one second month. That's probably the first time I actually actually really want to, actually like really love How didn't just get jez Jeezy Because Jeez the biggest artist he could. He could have just turned around and just sit it on Pimpsie. He could have said something, but but you know what, Jeez did Jez shut the funk up that I'm not I'm not saying and I'll be honest that was out of all

respect and didn't know pimp Jesz knew me. You knows what I'm saying. Hold on, describe that, please, we'll break that down. Jeez rode for pamp like free Pampsy and all of that because because he left me. But Jeez didn't have that relationship with Pamp and vice versa, and so Pamp didn't really know who Jeezy was as a person. But in the middle of whatever he was doing, he felt a certain way about something and it put me in Jeez in a funny position because Jesus got up.

He's got to represent his hood, he's got to do what he has to do. But and I'm telling him, look, whatever you feel you need to do, do what you gotta do. And he he didn't. But at the end of no, it's not that he didn't know. No, Jeez did everything he was supposed to do, like and he don't never say this, and obviously we're drinking that spite, but the reality of was Jesz did everything he was supposed to do. We did everything we were supposed to do,

and God kept us away beautiful from each other. Jes was ready to do whatever he had to do to handle his situation, and we were ready to do everything we had to do. Then all our situation and God intervene. That's just. And then now like Jesus, he's never not been my brother, he's pimper, has never not been my brother. And so God was like, look, I don't want you to have to choose between brother and brother. So here's what is what we're gonna do. How difficult is that

for you? Like it wasn't. It wasn't difficult at all because Jesz had to do what he had to do and I had to do what I had to do. And I'm just talking about in general, like if you no, it wasn't. It wasn't Like I said, Jeez knew what he had to do. I knew what I had to do, and you maintain that and he did too. And that's why, and that's why we could still stand together as men and speak and whatever, because nobody got compromised in that position. And I don't know if you know, bum B, but

this is a podcast, this is a show. We all have old TV, but we're big up our artists. We give our artists they flowers when they could smell them. We give them their drinks when they can wait, hold on, excuse me, I can't with another bottle be gave when they flowers when they can smell them, their trees when they get the hell them. We give them their drinks when they get take them and they when they get drink because I know that the need to get my trees,

Bunby and Bumby. I don't know if you know, but if it wasn't for you g K, they might have been a mob D. No, no, relax, come on, let me pick you up and relax. Relax, it wasn't for you, No excuse me. You know what, I'll take it even further than that. And once for eight ball m j G, they might have been a U g K. If it wasn't for you g K, they might have not been a mob Deep. It wasn't for MAB Deep, they might have been not seeing that. I remember when I remember

Juvenile Hill, let's go there. I remember that's how long I've been in the hip hop. I've been listening to hip hop since. Um what's that called uptown hustler? This nigga took it back definitely, So I've been here. He's a student. I've been here. Is a tough crew and Justice and all these crew. That's when I felt what happened. So I watched and see where everybody comes up. I remember mob D being teenagers making hip hop. Remember you and Poem being teenagers and making hip hop. I remember

people don't realize when our first record came out. I was eighteen, Pemper seventeen. I remember being a teenager making hip hop, and I know what it's like when it's just you and another nig in the room, Like yo, fuck these other niggas. I got you and another nig could be being like, you know and I got you, so like you bring your crew, y'all, bring my cool. Whatever niggas gonna get to, man, nigga is gonna be in the reckless, But when it comes to the rooms

that them niggas ain't in. I got you and you got me, and and that's that's the beautiful thing about what we do is hip hop has bunged us to the world. No, I don't know, it's crazy. That's crazy. That's the crazy ship. You You ever look at your photo map on your phone and just be like, like, this is everywhere I've ever been. Like me and my wife would try to sit back and just go into into the map ship and look at every way you ever took a picture nigger, And it's all on hip

There's always passport. They're still my passport. But I had every fucking in the world. I was so proud of my passport. Shout out to my nigga Mike from New York. Mike got a North Korea passport. He got a stamp from North Korea. That's the next ship he got. He got a camp from Korea with Kim Johnes. No, no, no, he drove through North Korea. He got out. They were doing gunball and there was on the way to be though, because I'm back on my music ship. That's where you

drive across. It's three thousand, three thousand miles in six days. Just manh the cannonball it is, but it's it's way more here than cannonball because it's like a hundred and twenty cars, probably about eighty million illars worth of cars and drink champs. Yeah, we can't let you leave it. I told you got a new album coming out. No, I got an EP coming out. Then I got a new album. That's then I got another album and three book. So you were going to do the album and then

white people like, look, take your time on, y'all. You got a bunch of music. Put a little ep a right click, you can still eat. Hey, niked. We don't call it white. We call it a muse. I make art, right, I make I don't make music. I make art. My wife is my muticic. Right, so when the music says you're doing right, we mashed on that. When you said you're doing wrong, we erased that. So the describe a AP what is that five songs? So we're somewhere between

seven and eight. Okay, so we have to be careful because anything more than eight is an album. Seven eight just when I'm not doing no intros, out track. So but she was like, look, let's just put some music out. Let niggas know your back, increase the shows, get the money up, so you still can do your album because my album division is separate from what we're doing on this. That's what that's you. You want to answer this, but you gotta relax, so you gotta answer it was all album.

I feel like you gotta relax bad. I don't know. I'm sitting it's time to roll a blood, don't Yeah, I'm man, but I gotta actually to relax. I should have put him out speaker. Now, I hear you, I hear you. I'm I'm in the middle of the interview minutes. You gotta relax, movie, But yeah, I remember shout out to branch and you're going there one shout and that way we want to go. Right now, I'm in. I'm

one of one of Pimc's best friends. Like we should go to the spot set there for three hours, I would just sit and look at the on warwork on the wall and that the same tree spot I was. Let me tell you something about Pamp. I'm gonna be honest with you. Pamp called niggers. They said, you're Norm's your real niggers. I'm sure they say, yeah, yeah, no, No, He's gonna go all out with you. He said, you sure, and then he still wanted to meet me. He still

looked at me. And then he came and looked at me and he was like, I walk with you anywhere. And I said, but that's what I appreciate it, like I actually, because very few people are genuine in this game, right, very few people are genuine. So like he was very excited, like yo to meet y'all, to meet y'all. You into in particular, and you will who you were, right, because a lot of people I'm not gonna put you know, I'm not, but there are a lot of people that

are not who they say they are. And when you took me to that that's why I was backside. When you took me to that, I was like, Yo, I took you, got Glupe big Sean, I took everything, picked him up from the airport. Where you want to go. I'm gonna go here and eat fry chicken. I go here, eat barbecue, gone screw shop, getting my call with me, just me and you. I'm gonna take you anyway you want to go, and you and you're good. And that was because Nor took me a left rack and was

exactly where he was supposed to be in left rack. Now, I thank you brother so much for describing that. But but it was so beautiful when I met Pimp, because Pimp said, listen, everybody told me your real nigga, but you're not a real nigga to That's so I was like, damn, my brother. My brother was very literal, yo, So I had to go. I went to sound on South. Would never forget this. I still did for three hours, and he kept looking at him, and they did the nigga

never lost the studio. No, and I'm looking at this funny because this funny because I knew he's that line and I wasn't there. And that's what's funny because in those moments, like it's very important for pamp to be like because the reality for Pamper is like when I come to New York and you say you that dude, I get my life. You know, I don't go to every hood. The last time after you, the only hood I went to in stood to three in the morning was Chicago. Oh yes, you know, I love Chicago's way.

I love Chicago, said in the hood. Shot a video late the morning, and who in the artists? Yeah, it's my man, Jay Artist. I can't think of the names right now, damn, but I'm know I'm fucked up. Dren from Chicago. You know. It's two dudes from the two dudes dif from Chicago. Um, damn, I can't think of the names once one skin with braids, the other dark skin with short hair. And my man, you're gonna but let me just tell you somebody l ep bogus. But

but let me tell you something. But you are one of the most respected people, one of the most respected all that sank you are one of the most respected individuals, and we want to continue to respect you. But in order to do that, I gotta still be who I'm supposed to be. You ain't supposed to respect somebody just because of what they did. You gotta maintain and respect people because of what they're doing. Because if people continue to if we continue to give people credit based on

what they did, they're gonna keep leaning on that. They ain't gonna proving themselves. I got improved myself. I gotta keep making sure that I'm who I'm supposed to be. For niggas, see, we're locked in on the moment we had ten twelve years ago, and we respect each other in that moment. Other niggas don't have that moment with me or you, so we still have to maintain that. Here's what I gotta stop. Okay, I gotta two different kinds of drunks. I love this, this me and you're

at the bar right now, no real ship. This me and you're at to listen. But I got a platform, I got a format, and you know what I'm gonna do. I gotta stop you because you know why. You need to be respected. You need to be saluted. You g k bunby everything you guys did to your ticket, hat off, Goddamn, we're gonna here. Look look this this is my towe. I'm gonna wipe your sweat. Listen, this is what you need to do. You need to sit here, you need to you need to be respected, because know why hip

hop shi salute hip hop. And that's the part that we don't have. We don't have. You know what it is. People would sit back and they say, Ah, this guy is this guy, and this guy is this guy, and that's not what youd be happening. You know, we just recently went to Atlanta, hung out with a big boy, hung out with cel I, hung out I'm now we're hanging out with motherfucking button b and bud By can never, ever, ever, ever, ever in his life come to New York. And I

feel appreciate it, especially when I'm in New York. And you know why because a lot of motherfucker's might not say, you know what, you GK raised us, But that's them, Nicks, it's not me. You g K fucking raised us, you know, and you know how how important he is to the culture and how much you respect the before you go in, Before you go, I want to get your love because you and RP Prodigy, y'all was young niggas. You know what I'm saying, and we saw it as young niggas,

and that was something that we respected from y'all. Y'all was so because Pimp was I was. I was nineteen and Pimp was eighteen when you was seventeen, you know what I'm saying. When Pimp was literally like, Yo, am I gonna go and get Am I gonna graduate from high school and make music? You know what I'm saying? And I had just graduated, I was like, am I gonna go to college? I'm gonna make music? And both of us like, yo, we're gonna get this ship a year.

If not, we're gonna do whatever. And the day before we made this decision after I graduated on May on April thirtieth, and on on my mean it was me no, it was Aple thirties and literally went to New York a year later on April thirties and signed a record deal on May first with Yoah. And from that point on, we made a decision either way that we were going to ride that it out together. And I've been running for my nigger hard for me when he was here

because we're not in the interview. But what I want to say is because you cut me off. He cut me off, He cut me off and the first But but I'm gonna tell you something. Buy me and this brother right here, we started this podcast because we wanted to respect legends. And we could have been dead because you know why these guys want the new guys, but me and him stuck to our guns. And when we started this, we want to pick up brothers like you, brothers like PAM, brothers like m g K. I'm excuse me,

M just me, but listen. And the thing about it is, this is exactly what hip hop has to do. They keep telling me. They say, you know what drink champs work. I've met with Leo Cohns and you know what leg cons told me. He said, because you're a legend, big enough legends And I said, Leo, I wanted to tell him to shut up, but then I said, I think he's right. That's what we gotta keep doing. But go bun, we're going tonight. We are celebrating bund motherfucking bel No,

let me get let me getne off. Please let me get mine off, because you mean we met and left Frank that time and from that point on, you know, like the DJs with the background you know what I'm saying. Sometimes we get overlooked over here, like as a fan, I'm sitting here looking at you already to talk about it. I'm I'm a fan, so I'm gonna say I'm gonna listen to this. Take it all in. You know what

I'm saying. And you guys have all these stories, but little do people know the work y'all doing behind the scenes and helping other people out. But no problem. When I called bon up back in those days, I don't know how we email or text or two. And I'm like, I need I need a freestyle for the mixtape bomb, I need another one for the mixtape bo He says me. Pro tool sessions. I said, I got an artist. Can I use one of these sessions and make a track

and keeping it? And this is a legend. You know what I'm saying already, But I'm go ahead and do it. You know what I'm saying. And then on the recent album I did in two thousand fifteen, hit him up, same things never changed. Thank you. And you know, I just want to say than because I know I'm probably not the only DJ that you were supporting and and

and from from all the DJs. I want to thank you as well, but it was very genuine because there's a million motherfucker's they wrap you know when you were very adamant on your projects that you wanted me, and it is a very unique place. And it wasn't a thing of you wanted me because I was hot or any of that. It's like, Yo, I got something. I want people to know it's a good project, but can you give me something? I just want to support you.

I always always talk about I always talk about but I always talk about in the way that people probably now talk about Callett because of the genuine spirit and everybody has ever given anything that ef and is never asked for. Really, I don't know, but I feel like everybody's giving it to you because they don't they genuinely like you as a person, you know what I'm saying. And that's when when I saw him, I was like, Yo,

look what life is taking us. You know what I'm saying, Look how the ship came all the way around because everybody, and I told you this earlier, everybody wants to win a certain way, and you might be set up to win, but not in the way that you want to win. But if you leave yourself open to things. You know what I'm saying, because I know I can guarantee neither one of you need to touch all what's gonna win

on this podcast? You know what I'm saying. But but but y'all did it because like you know what, with you with me, we're gonna get on this mic and we're gonna hold each other down. And it's taking and it's very it's it's very nice to see when when people be like, Yo, we're just gonna ride this obviou see what happens, you know what I'm saying, And then and then it ends up getting a chat just being real. Shout out to revolt y. I don't know the shout out to a rock because I'm like, funked up on

you got you gotta big for that. You can't. You can'tnot shout them out for that. Picked them up. I got to pick him a bigger shout out to wife you because she's here, look it up. She's like, ain't been drunk with somebody. I'm just throwing it out there. She's like, he had been a drunks and he when the drunk his birthday. But it's good because I'm sweating to so I'm not as drunk as I should. Are you doing you know you don't you want to be doing?

God the premium feed in the bag because I want to say that that he inspired teach to teach to get involved with the food drug and all that. Like you, I know, I've seen it in some way that you helped inspire. That's my brother. Teacher. Teachers is a good dude, and teachers in the place where he had made money. He was successful managing pit boll He had made money or whatever, but there wasn't any personal fulfillment for him.

And I was like, well, what do you What do you like like to do, like to cook, to cook for names, like when I come to Miami cook for me and he cooked out like you can actually really cook like And I was like, if this is what you want to do, you should follow this because if you don't do this, you're gonna spend money doing something else and you're gonna regret not doing it doing something

that you really love to do. If you're gonna take the money that you've worked hard for yourself and your family, if you're gonna put that on the line, it should be for something and that you believe in and heart and above everything else, he loved to cook and he's got fulfillment now. And it's not just about money. I used to think it was about money. And there was a lot of things that I missed. Moments with my wife, moments with my kids, you know, just being really your wife.

I love that, that's how But it's just there were things that that I felt like, I'm like, yo, I need I need to make sure they can live in a certain house. I need to make sure they can wear certain clothes, they can go to certain places. But it wasn't really about that, you know what I'm saying. It was about living life for personal fulfillment, Like what do we enjoy as a family, What do we enjoy as a couple, What do we enjoy it from the parents the child dynamic? And if you don't really stick

to that, you're gonna lose it. Because the ship that we do is designed to prop you up. I designed to prop the couple of us, the parent up. It's trying to prop you up. You gotta find it in yourself to be like yo, I gotta make sure that I'm still a husband to my wife. I'm still a father to my kids. I'm still a brother to my friends. Because this game is like you know what. I know, you got your crew with you, but you're the ship. This ship is about you. They need you. I wouldn't

be here if it wasn't food. Damn, that's exactly what I'm doing my food show. They told me on my food show, I could listen on my food show. I could have did anything, but I hired. I had about list six six different people. You know what I could have did loving hip hop. But if I did love hip hop, don't even get would I would bring my wife up here right out. Let me feel like they started. If I would have did loveing hip hop, you wouldn't

have seen him. You want to see him. And guess what if I was the love of hip hop, they didn't want me to do drink champs and shout out. I got nothing against them right now what they do. But I know that every time they wanted to, like after loving hip hop New York before they went to Atlanta and Hollywood. The first at the first people, they was like, yo, me and I'm being want you and your wife. We looked at everything and we made a conscious decision as the family. We don't need that. It's

not worth it. I don't want your wife fighting nobody because I'm gonna shoot whoever. No, no, don't miss let me say that. But but we're a real family, right, We're a real family. And I'm not saying anybody else any real family, but we're a real family. And we didn't need that. We didn't need that. No disrespect to that,

we just didn't need that, you know. You know, and I'm not saying that people that did it like, we're not saying it like that, you know, but that was something that was like, you know what, we have our family. Nobody knows the dynamic and our family and just say, you know, I'm sorry, I gotta cut you off. Food, don't come I listen, I'll say vault TV. Yeah, what we're trying to do, we're trying to change black media because black media. Did we controlled by black media? Did

that make Did that make sense? Did you want to say that, say we want to change media and the media black change media? Change? You know why us ask us as the creative people in the world. We don't have to change anything. All we gotta do is continue to be who we need to own. What we do is we just need the owner. We do but because they can't sell nothing without us. We would love to get you on your wife's podcast Together TV. We would love to do that on film because she loved that.

I want to think that would be EP credit. She's fine film because that's the only reason why we haven't do it done it because at the end of the day, we never had EP credit. We would never get EP credit, so we wouldn't do it. If we're gonna put our family out to the world, then we need to be in control of the vision. I'm not because I'm not here for Nick to go to dinner with my wife and have a nice dinner and then somebody coming and have a fucking fight. We're talking about the table three?

Are we talking about the buns? The camera? No, no, no, shout out. I want to buy that. And there's a name, but I'm not gonna say it right now because somebody's gonna try to go there. If I say the name right now on this on this thing, they'll go there. I'm gonna tell you, I'll tell you tell a lot I got. I'm telling it like the blood called puff Tell puffing his ear We're gonna drink summer cold because it's my wife drinking. And listen, this is how we

do it. We only do know that's my wife controls it because my wife has my family's best love. I don't know a lot of this. My wife is the business. Yes, let me tell yo before no, I want to tell the story before we go. Him's locked up in jail. I was getting ready to a bad boys out. Puff comes to Houston. That's a big part. That's why she's laughing. This real ship buff comes. Pump said, But I'm not talking to you, talking to the wife because the wife

friends the white friends of ship Puff office. Uh this Southern figures. He's like, Yo, I'm gonna give bun this. I wanna get pimp this. I want this, this and that and that. That we go home. My wife was like, yo, we should do this. We need what you Why you're not doing that? I whisper. Then my wife's there like I whisper in your ear. Wife's like, I'm with you, and that's why I'm here right now doing drink. Tramps

in that moment like real ship, real niggah. In that moment, we went home after the club for in the moment and very why are we not? Why are we're not doing it? Let's go, let's move. I whisper. Then my wife's ill like I whisper in your ear. And that's why I'm here today, no no hold on. And at some point in my life between that and today's nobody's business. Between that point and today, my wife whispered in miad, And that's why we did. Especially listen right now, right now,

I don't know my wife. When I leave here, my wife would be like if I lied, my wife would be like, I respect that. You know what I'm saying. I respect that. And listen. If you from hip hop, if you from Houston, left from the South, if you're from anywhere else in the world, and you understand who this man is, we support him, We salute him, we respect him. He had one of the most controversy to artists in the world. He stood there and he stood by him. The same is to me still do no. No,

I think he won like he wont. He won't way more than me. But the fact that is, Bumby, we can't thank you enough. We want to stand up. We're gonna salute you. Because back I came to Dream Camp they got drunk and you know what, you know what the crazy ship is. We didn't even talk about your new album. You have a new album, ABU DP is called Extended Play Extended Pay. When does it come out? August twenty nine? Feature on it? Because um yeah, but

you'll see that August twenty nine. Because Bumby Days, because Bumby Day, Houston. When ready for Bumby Day in Houston, like the mayor Houston, get me bumby Damn August thirties. That's the deeper story to that. But I got saved it to the book I'm Coming. I'm coming so but

the but Bumby Day this year is a Wednesday. So we're gonna drop the album that you no no, but we're gonna drop the EP before and then we're gonna go out and do the food bank and ship like that and things that we do because Bumpy Day is not about me. It's about giving back to the community. By example, He's got my wife is like, Yo, we did good once or twice. We need to step it up and kick it up. This is what you need, you need, you need right give me. It comes to

me problem. But every time you what you asked for, every time you have a high moment. That's what I need. I need you to hit me because I don't want to. I want to be the opposite of your humble moment, right and things will be like it was bumpy, bumpy, and then you'd be like, Yo, I'm good huh. And now I just want to stand by you and be like fu, Yeah, nigger, you know what you have to get behind her? No, no, you're that's me to do it. I'm telling you what I'm telling you. I'm telling you

to sign to listen to you g K Bumby. You should be celebrated everything in hip hop and shouting out to you for being an entrepreneur. I know that I know your show. No, I know to designed for you to celebrate niggas. But I've known you, like dude, and even when I didn't know you, I knew you so I so when I met you, it was ship was obvious because I already knew what type of nigga y'all. But but but I gotta but no, but Joe, Joe, you get you know, you get paid to celebrateing niggas.

This was on me. You can't. I'm not saying you can't pick me up, but it's important. It's important because I was telling my wife earlier. I said, Yo, I said, I said, no one's ever understood how smart Alway is. I said, and that's why he's always got richer than anybody ever thought he was gonna get. I said, I know, I mean to put him on blast, but you know, but he's so Yeah, but no, but no, Re is

a genius. He's always going further than anybody thought he was gonna go, which was surprising to me because I'm like, why, no, No, she already knows. And I was like, yeah, I was like, look at him. Now he's got a food choice of the pocket, all this other stuff that i' not this was going. I was like this, like, I don't even know what I can say, what I can't say. I don't even know what I can't say, what I can't say.

But the reality is that people look at us being from certain in finance, being from certain neighborhoods, and putting limitations on us, and so many times we accept those limitations. Damn. But you know what I'm saying, And it's beautiful to see somebody like Nori Dad has never accepted what people said he was supposed to be you and you look. I know it's no, it's not a person that ships

on people. But it's got to be very interesting to look back everybody that that not only shipped on me, but like was like, but this was luck, this was this was timing or whatever. You know what I'm saying light he knew. I say that Christ just being real. Christnew. I just want to say that Chris knew. But I'm just saying nobody ever knew that they didn't want to if they knew, they didn't want to give credit. And

I dealt with that in my career. Niggas had an idea of what we would do, but niggas would never give us credit. And it's it's amazing to see what Nori has done because Nori has been Nori. This is the same dude I said in lovet Reckord, the same dude I was at the studio with. You know, this was who I anticipated on meeting and that's who we ended up being and that's who he still is. And people don't realize everybody is fighting. I just want to

say this, and I'm sorry I could be out of pocket. Niggas. Niggas are fighting to get on Drink Champs, and I can show you and I can show you my phone, and literally every seven to ten days, I'm begging him to come whenever you're ready to come on Drink. How many people get called by the top one of the top podcasts in the country, Yo, what are you doing? Yo?

Where you I'm in New York. That's the only reason I'm here because we were talking this week and he was like, we're making him up to you, but it's been real. You're like, You're like, I'm going to Miami. I'm in New York right now. Can you get to Miami. I'm like, I don't know. And then literally the next day I got called to come and do a show in New York. And then the day after I got booked, I called North's like, Yo, you're in New York to twelfth right, Like, I'm gonna be in New York this week.

And that's why I'm on the microphone right now because my man left this door open, and as soon as I had opportunity and called him, I walked right through. Yeah. But in all due respect, Bun, I really appreciate the love that you just gave me. But I just want you to never ever, ever, ever not remember who you are. That's why my wife is here. And you know why,

because the design a totally different aspect of life. What you g K did to us, but you guys gave to the music community, I could never thank you know. But we looked as a true man group. We looked at everybody, looked at you and you know what I'm saying. But I'm saying as through longevity and there was always a dynamic that we could look at. When we started My fucking hat bumby PIMPC run D m C, there's

always been something that we could look at. Run DMC was the first pm D. You know what I'm saying. You know, even Houdini in different groups like that, we would look at like the two man group and need not just because there were two men, because you can put those two people in the room and leave with an album. And that's where the dynamic with Game Star comes in, the dynamic with Mob Deep comes in with E P m D comes in because you got the producing an m C. Put them dudes in the room,

they come out with an album. You know what I'm saying. But even deeper than that, put these two dudes in the room, you come out with a movement component noriega killed it killed. That's why I keep my room and my wife in the room with me because I can't. I can't lie. She won't because she gonna sit right there and if I try to lie, she don't look up and be like, no, sir, God bless her. Okay, So here, here's a deal. You know, I'm so drunk right now, I'm almost certain that kid can't be anything.

Is that Barcelo open downstairs? Let's killing right now. We could go downstairs, but but I ain't gonna lie to you. Man. I can't thank you enough, because the thing about it is, people think that your soul like because because how front Pet was, people think that you're like like you. You won't even answer a question because I don't. I don't talk. I don't know. But I'm your brother. Know what I'm saying.

I'm talking to you. I'm talking to you, but in the in the in the physics, in the physical world, in the physical world, like me and me and out in my better half. Yes, I walk in any room to walk out. Yes, yes, h God, we're walking to any wom to walk out. I never let me tell you all the iller ship, my brother ever said, all that fly ship and minkoes on the ellership. Pimp Ever said was I don't need body guds, I just need mighty God, Mighty God. I said, that's said, and I've

ever since he said that. I never told him I moved like that. I knew then't I didn't need nobody with me. I didn't need know nobody if you wasn't moving with me within God, I just moved by myself, you know. And it's and and and and this is that the way hip hop should be. That's the way, because that's the way life should be. You know, that's the way life should be. Like you don't need people

to show who you are, prove who you are. If you are how you say you are, and you're on in that in a real way, you can move anywhere in this world and people. And I prove of that. I was telling the story earlier to Jeffanary about we came to New York, we got signed, people like, you're gonna go to Hollow. I was like, what's going to holler? So we took a cab from the hotel and he was like, he was like, where you want to go?

Were like, we want to go to Hall and cab drop himself on Amsterdam and just me and pimp get out of cab and that's where we are. There's a barbershop. This is nine. It's a barbershop on Amster that we're going into the barbershop. We get a hack. I love you, brother, you know how much you've been through. We're trying to talk and it's funny because we're trying to talk about

it on here. I know we can't talk about the studio session and be talking about how crazy got in the hood, your shot a little man, that slap dude behind that tongue ring. I can't. I can't thank you enough. We'll we're just talking about understand and all this other ship. No, but it's important for people to see me cry, because this is what they don't get to see, right. Hip

hop is designed for ego like that. But when you love people and you think about them and they're not next you and you can't be next to you them, you're supposed to be like And so that's why I love talking through it. I love crime while I'm talking about something because that lets people know about us, we are,

about what we're talking about you know, you know. You know what I think about it is it's like we just lost prodigy, so we can't ask have it right now the same way we couldn't ask you when yeah you can't. I can talk down. I can talk a lot easier. And it's not like and see people think you get choked up when it's like, Yo, how you felt about you know? I think about the little moments

that's what choke you up, not about you know. It's for me when I think about him, I think about there's new cause and he went that he would have bought. You know what I'm saying when I look at the racing, When I look at the race like for real, like like people don't realize when Pimp pulled up in the binds that he's in big crimping. He was the first person on the street with that car. He was in Miami with that car. I remember Ray Kwen coming up to him. I remember Fat Joe coming up to him.

Because people don't realize that I forgot what this because Carl spring bling that. But it was loud weekend back then the first time they did that in Miami, it was like it was a loud all this thing. So the Cheffer was in town, Joe was in telling everybody, and we're on Colin and Pimper just got that joint and nobody had that joint, you know what I'm saying. So it was a very very fantastic they and they

put Pimp and people did. This was before Big Pepper, so let people know exactly what type of duty he was, you know what I'm saying. And it wasn't like I got it before. He was like, I got what y'all got. Were from the South, We we do. We can do anything anybody else could do, you know what I'm saying. But it was the honesty about Pimp that I think it's gets missed about the uk K legacy, no fault. That's the beautiful thing about you guys. It's like when I met you, I asked you, I swear to God,

this is the best beautiful thing. Pampa was like, tell them, Nori, come on the studio, listen. This nigger analyzed every aspect of me. But that's exactly what I would have. Did you understand, like I would have this same exactive Pample looked at me, he was like it and I was like, damn.

And then we funked through each other the whole like this, and you people would never know how how close this group was, like U Kane and Campona Noriega, because when people look at people, they think people are close because they do a bunch of songs, a bunch of songs, you know what I'm saying. But the real people that really have friendships in music, they don't even really do music together. We talk about family, we talk about children, we talk about contracts and legacy and ship, like real

life ship. You don't be like, yo, let's do this and let's start this. That's not what real people do. Real people, like a company's flaking on me right in my ain't all you only live like ten minutes? How should I move on this? But like, yo, I want to go to the label and let like fifty rats loops, like it's not gonna do this. They got rats in New York up there they got and but let me tell you something. But I can't thank you so much too drunk, No, no, no, but listen, I am not you.

I can't thank you so much because no, we all drink chaps to drink Champs, drink Champs finishes, drink Champs drink Jam. The thing is this. We ain't these other shows where we want to, like, you know, pull up gossip and all this ship. All we want to do is represent our hip hop legends. And today we're not only big en up you, but we're also bigging up

your brother who's not here, PIMPSI. And we're also big enough Prodigy because Prodigy is not here, and we understand exactly what you guys are going through right now for real with you. And this is Drink Champs, and Drink Champs is only to big up hip hop, fuck everything else about life. Hip Hop should be saluted every fucking day.

There's a war going on that my bud. I thank you so much, yo, Bunny, I thank you so much for me because I feel like my son is coming up with and I'm listen, buddy, There's no way I can thank you so much. Men together, the fact that you came to left right with me, you hang off, and that wasn't left right yesterday here. This is a very ill like. That's why I laughed so much when we were all standing in front of Sweet, because I don't think anybody thought you would have been who you

were going to be. I don't think nobody really thought like you. People thought and me like and and who we are not because of what we were? Then that's the ill ship. That's the like, that's the ill ship. Like we're not even who we are now because of who we wasn't because we weren't scared to beat more than we are now. You know what I'm saying, That's why we are now. That's what I man so like I feel like questions. I feel like I'm just like I'm telling you I'm so good because I'm a fan

of and just Bun. Just to know that when we all when I'm met Bunn and left right, that's such a memorable. I feel like I'm back in that and and I see it like it was yesterday. And is this, Like I said, there's intricac either of that day that we could never as deep as this. And I tell people all the time about that story. So it's so funny to talk about it here in this space because I talked about that story all the time, Like, Yo, you want to know when I really was in New York.

You don't know when I really do in New York. Please tell us, like like drinking story, my mom number one moment and there's a lot but just literally like turning up the belver their bottle. And then like I felt like I was in Clocus because the nig the d T shirt, the quarter and I'm like it's one time,

right on time. Same but so like we're sitting there with the corner and this is when Armadale Vodka it's popping right like we're supporting I'm sorry, but we're supporting support business like we are that but that was a move Armadale. Right, So I'm in New York. I'm with no read. I'm drinking Armadale like Nord's like yo, it goes over the so and not like not this side, like shout out the puff. But you know we had to magnim had just being real where the hood. So

I got this huge bottom a vodka. You know, it's just crazy. I'm in the Queens. I'm in left right. And then like just like clocks and literally like the old school, like it's literally what my man was driving past your boy Clockers. He's in the same detective like Lincoln Call and I'm like, really, word, that's what you came to New York foot And he's like now you're good, and apparently I was good. Yeah, but I watched a couple of dudes can slap. Somebody got shot the five

a couple of dudes. I shot to five yard. It was it really. I was like, damn not because it happened. I'm like, Yo, this is the same ship. Though. If I was on this corner and you right, and this should happened, the same ship would have happened, and the whole night. As the night progress, I'm like, the world together. That's all can say. You know, that's exactly what we should do. Nothing scared me. Nothing surprised me, exactly. You know what I'm saying. You not just standing mean, nothing

surprised me. I'm like, I'm gonna tell this funny story. Just one of the first things that happened. Little man comes up. North's like, yo, but just so you know, little man, what we don't do when we eat bananas, we don't eat h hot dogs. That I was like, this is crazy because you asked a little dude from where I grew up if you want to pops, and they will look at you crazy, right, And it's it's it's not that there's anything wrong with eating pops, right,

in general. It's just that's against my rules. Rules continued, but it was very funny, like and he's looking at north the whole top, he said, and kid was less than twelve. And then the kids something that any kid less than they teat this, something like to get finished. But listen, you know what I ate downstairs? And ate a hot dog or everything on it? No hot dog? A fact, what did I eat downstairs? Everything on it? No dog? I get a hot dog? Okay, continue, but no,

there's nothing saying to that. The same noise, the same black Let me tell you something. This is not the back in the days, or this is not nowadays. When I asked bumby to come to my hood. This wasn't the nice hood. This was the hot That was when niggas was like, yo, you know these buildings got underground, like shooting things like if they come, just run with following me. All we gotta do is make it to the building. He's like, all we want to do, the say all we have to They said, all we gotta

just make it to the building. And they don't know if we go up or go down, so we're good. Left right out underground ship. So it's like, yo, that was that time, and it was literally it was like, you know, if anything happened, just run with us. It was a time and now all we gotta do is make it to the building. All you gotta do is make it to the building. And the words. I was like, okay, and I ain't got the bump me now like I got now I gotta tore menis because so I ain't

got to bump you. But they was like, all we gotta do because we're on the corner. We had the light and so it's a building right here. There's a building right there, and it's it's like yo, be we're good. Ah, we gotta just make it to the building. They don't know where we're going. The DT's got to catch us before we getting the building. Once we're getting the building, they don't be going up or we're going down. Intellects, it's beautiful because that's sorry, no, no, but that was

the New York I wanted to see. That's what I wanted New York. I'm all enough to remember the warriors and ship, so New York had to be a certain way where I got here. I didn't want to go to Junior's with jee shout out the puff. But that's not what I wanted. I know, I'm taking the piss. I'll come right back. I'm so sorry I did not, But we were very We were close to the buildings, but I wasn't tripping it. I wasn't tripping. But that's the one thing I remember distinctly. Yes, yo, so, But

it's not like we WoT to selling crap. We were drinking big If it was, who did I be allowed that I met? There? Can you talking about talking about that? That's why that's where I'm very for the first time. Literally, it's crazy. Showed me too, but she got real, you know, so, bun Man, So what would you think, um, before we get up out of here, what would pimps think? This

whole generation right now? I think you think. I think he would love the fact that young people are getting paid for the music, because we used to have to try to figure out just how to get paid for putting the record out. Nowadays you get paid for from the record out, from downloads, from streaming, all these other things, So you get paid off of one song ten different

ways if you know how to work the game. We were just trying to figure out how to get paid from putting a record out, So I think you know, from that aspect, he would be happy of the freedom that autists have. But on the other right, but on the other side, he would be I think he would be disappointed and a lack of honesty, you know. Lat yeah, like because we're here to like right now, expose everything that's fake. But if you're a fake, you can't expose

anything because it would expose you. And that's what he would be disappointed about. Pamper never had a problem with who people were. It was about people pretending about who they were. That was his problem. You know what I'm saying. If you're gamester, you're game say. If you're hipster, your hipster, if you straight, get whatever, just be who you tell me when I meet you. Just be that every time I see you, and I can live and if I like that, if I can accept that, I'm good with that.

But don't visit seen thousand niggas told pimp Nor was a real nigga. He still wanted to me, I gotta meet you. He looked at me, sir, and then he hugged me the whole night. Tell him and it was It was funny because pimps like yo, man, I'm so happy that this nigs who he said that the people said he was. I'm so happy that he was who you said he was. If you and Keith Murder, you and Keith Murray, um, like what exactly? Who we where?

He thought that we're going to be. You are everything we thought there was gonna be before walking the ball shop. What happened? We went in there, We was like we were from Texas and he's like, you gotta be you know what I'm saying, like what you're doing in the homes, Like we want to get a hair cut, we want to get weed, and we want to get some food, and Niggs like we just want thet You say something before you can ren this. Listen, pimp. See, didn't he give a fuck? We took the way that and he

checked me in New York. It's not like I was the sexist on Houston said these nigga told me your real nigga. Pimp. He shaw to rump in his head like just I said, oh ship, I've never been checking this way, so I just had to ride with it. I was just like, oh yeah, yeah, definitely, that's what they told you. He said, yeah, yeah, he said you good, your real nigger. I said, yeah. He said, I'm gonna

make sure you're real nigga. All right, oh ship, yeah, and then he's like, I'm gonna watch you the whole name okay, and didn't his best friends, but he definitely watched me. He made sure every room look that came around saluted me, and if they didn't, he looked at me and said, make sure that's fun and that's real ship because it was important for us. We were so far removed from a lot of this ship. We moved

it straight away. So it was like, man, we gotta make sure then we that niggas were around moved like we moved right like. It was never about worrying about drama, be for none of that. You like, Yo, we're gonna be around certain people. We gotta make sure we're around you like that we moved. It's just that simple. And if you're a real nigked, then you don't you don't even get infitted with you, like, yeah, we need to

make sure you really you need to call you. Take my phone to him and he said, he says, I'm still gonna you can tell me everything. He said, I'm not what you And that was a beautiful everything should come back, right, that's the beautiful thing because I're thinking right and you know, and button, let me just let me just tell you something. Mine and hip hop people don't bag each other up. People don't sit there and say to you, but we love you and we love

what you can contribute it to hip hop. We love what you gave to hip hop. We love you just your booted to hip hop. And this is not the shows that you're on. This show that you're on right now is We're gonna fucking salute that. That's beautiful. Really, we really can't thank you enough. We're gonna continue to support your ship. We're gonna blow up your fucking album that just came out. It's coming out. The singles out now, Game I guess when this comes out, Game times out

right now. That's not even a single. I just know still take over the show, take over and everything because I okay let him to single pits DJ, so like you know, you worked with them, and you said that every time. Every time, you're like you're still about Vinyl, Like a lot of think he don't like, we don't know Vinyl was like that was what a DJ's dream was not this laptop ship, you know, freestyle cutting this,

so I know it's deep. Ye know. If you go and look on the Ryan Dirty album on the on the pictures on the insert, there's a picture of me, Pimp C and DJ Screw and there's a piece of vinyl behind him, and that's the test press from the first record we ever did. Because Screw was like he was the after Hour DJ. So when I got the test press, I brought it to him because he was the only DJ I knew like mixing. So I used

to go to the spot to shoot dice. So I brought it straight to him and was like, yo, and this was old, this is ninety it's ninety two, like February ninety two. And I'm like, yo, play this, let me know what you think. And I'm on the pool table shooting dice because that's where we had to shoot dice. And after I was on the pool table in the back and he plays the ship and he was like it.

He played again, like you'll keep that to and keep it popping, and and I'm like, I'm I'm a hundred miles away from where I grew up and I'm in the after I was at three and one shooting dice just to make sure my see what my record due to connect with people. And so Screw took that record and put it on the wall in the room where

he mixed that. And when we went in that room, which is literally about eight years later, and we go in that room, you know, he pulled it out because it's on the walls, and so we literally posed in front of the picture. And at this time he wasn't in DJ Screw when I gave him this record, He's just the after our DJ. We're in the after hour the club this is stupens are on like the dance floor. We're shooting dice on the pool table in the back

of that bitch, right next to Gallagher, my nigga. We're shooting dice in that bitch or three in the morning, and he played my record and niggas, it's probably forty niggas in the after hours, and he's like, like that ship, that ship tight, I ain't play that ship again, you know. And then I'm like, you might have something. And then three months later we're in New York and callumb A Circle getting ready to go to Job Records. Forty second,

just tell me something good. I got the test press vinyl, and I brought it to the after hours, like my nigga run that. Let me know what you think. You know what I'm saying, Like it's amazing, It's probably gonna be a little weird. No, no, nothing is with because because I came to New York in ninety two before Giuliani, so I remember the weird New York so after Pimp like because he went off right he said, zones is different. Now,

how was your life after that? Because and then he made it clear he said this is not this was this was not the first time that this is not the first time that Pippa said nothing that I didn't know that, but that I didn't know Pemper was gonna say what he said. If you look at the wire, there's a moment where Big G says, um, well, I can't remember Slim Charles and on the white, but it's it's Big G for d C. And he's like, even if it's a lie, we gotta ride on that lie.

And I'm not saying my brother lie, but no matter what my brother says in the moment, we gotta move on that even if it's a lie, we're gonna have to go to war on that lot. Now, when me and him get in the back room while the shots in the front, me and him gotta have words in the back about why we're in this situation. That's what

I love you. But the reality is, and there was a lot of moments what would be like he would get out there and be like, yo, you know what fox on and so my wife is right there, my wife know him the line. My wife was probably on the side and be like, that's what we had to day, you know, and we go home and again, even if it ain't right or even IF's a misunderstanding in that moment, we gotta move on that we got. We gotta move

on that, you know. And it was it was very rough for us as a family and ship like that because I don't I don't talk about a lot of because that ship was real ship, you know what I'm saying. So I don't talk about a lot of that ship. I'll protect the integrity of my family. But just the reality is that even if I didn't agree with him, I was riding with him. That was that wasn't even understood. I mean, that wasn't even something that had to be understood.

Whatever happens in that moment, people's like, this is what we're saying. Even if I didn't agree in that movement, if we're in front of niggers. He also beginning that Bunny ain't got nothing to do much. But I always had something to do with you knew, because the Pimple was my little brother. Damn that you know what I'm saying. People come with my older brother. Comp was younger than me.

Component is older than me. So my whole thing with pimp was, like I understand that I understood that were things he didn't really understand about certain things about how to handle ship. People had what they he didn't have what they call inner dialogue, right like, I feel this way about this person. Should I say this? Should I not say? That didn't even exist? That didn't even exist. I got addressed this right here, right now. So that was whether that was a rapper, a nigger on the street,

whether it was the CEO did yeah, yeah. But even if that was like Verry White to see you all the record company, it would be I remember be in a room with like the person that the term in my future a bit nigger, and then get up and walk out, and I'm like, well, I guess we understand

where were all that. You know what I'm saying, So because I talked to you about a year so but I wasn't gonna be like, yo, I don't know what he said, but that's not what we If that's how he felt, then we'll talk about that on the plane on the way home, like maybe that wasn't the best way to do this, but at the end of the day, Pemple loved this ship. Say, and this is what people

don't understand. I'll say this giving away a lot about because my wife looks up every now and then just get But I will say, like this was Pimp's life. There was no plan B for Pimp, for this ship, and if there were certain moments where he felt a certain way, even if I didn't really understand it, all right, all right, well, I guess this meeting is over. But you're a bitch, you know what I'm saying. You who sneakers don't understand what we're trying to do fun this ship. Mommy,

we out of here. Well, guys, I guess you can't see we have each other's numbers. But what he said, you know what I'm saying. And on the home like, yeah, we shouldn't have done it like that. Yeah, but in the moment, but right a wrong, we gotta ride on that. Shout out to big G your But I don't know if you ever you got a new album coming out? Yes, well, I don't know if you ever because this is a different type of hip hop show. There's a different type of place where you at and at our place, we

big up our artists and Bundy be nice. You are so fucking appreciated or I don't know, no, no, for real, I don't know way you ever. There's a real reason why God gave drink champs to the world. Talk about that, because you've been a drink champion for I think the only person is even giving you a battle is forty and be Legiti destroy me, you know what I'm saying. But that's a powderful pound. That's the best powerful powder.

I mean, you're like the Floyd Medal Mayweather. When I say poundful pound, please please keep your pound for pound, keeping the drink champ. I'm just saying that. I'm just that's all I mean. You go to get six ft six niggers and three hund of pounds, Yes, I got a little then you gonna But but like you, you know, you went to every state, you went to every region, every hood, and you drink recklessly, not just regularly, you drink recklessly to the point where if it's going down,

it's going down in a very real way. Right now you made it home safe. That's a beautiful thing. That's the thing. There's there's no person we were other big up right now and drink champs and revote history. Then bumb absolutely right here loves you so much, you know because if if it's called me a few times in his life, and I'd be surprised if I didn't give you what you know, but if drama smalls, these were people that were very genuine in their love and support.

I like, you know what I'm saying. They were like, Yo, I ain't got no money, I ain't got this, I ain't got that. I just I really funk with you, and I'm doing this and if you want to be a part of it, I love that you be a part of it. And I remember my wife being like my wife was like, YO, why are you doing this stuff? And I'm like, yo, please trust me because of you, because of drama, because of small but there wasn't a music.

Woun't being real because I didn't get because it's very easy for me to sit here and let you give me accolades. But if it is a real, dude, and if it knows that there's never been any money exchange, just been real, It's never been any and I just wanted to see him win and he and he always wanted to see me. When there's been times where people would check up the efit more than it's been. Really, they're being really a lot of times, a couple of buns.

There's a couple of months if but no, if it had up end and he was like, yo, but this is drink with me. You gotta stop taking over even with the group. I'm gonna be that. But there's a lot and let us make you up. This is not my wife is over, it's not the show. Let's talk about him now. That's begging him up. Yeah, that's what you're edited. We'll put this on the end. No, I'm very uncomfortable to sit around and just kind of like I'm in a new place now where I don't want

to celebrate me. I want to celebrate God and people that have been good. We're celebrating God, what's what I'm saying? And so like when people start leading on me, gotta but my wife is like, Yo, shut the funk up, it's time to go twelve minutes, goddamn bub Let me tell you something. Us in New York City were recognized. We knew what y'all was doing in the Houston and the authors, we understood what y'all was doing. But you

know what happened. It's like a drinking game when you say you want more, No, because my wife, but let me just tell it. But listen, let me tell you something, bunny, But you should be saluted every day on Monday, do Sunday. And that's what we're gonna continue to do. And drink champs. Drink chips. First of all, Dree Champs is everything I thought it was gonna be. It was, yes, everything I thought it was gonna be because I thought I was gonna be the dude they came in and talked that

didn't get drunk. Yom listen because you know why we select we celebrate hip hop. And the thing about it is in the hip hop. Hip hop don't set up a hip hop what the fund is our problem? This is hip hop right here. Nah, it's not hip hop. It's hip hop and bun Pam and pimp check me. I've never been checked before hip hop. So when checked me, I said, there, I gotta check myself too. Let we checked the end. The thing about it is we want

to continue to support people like you, boy. That's why this works the because this wasn't about money and sponsorship and none of that ship You've been out even at the like I said, it's funny because like what, you ain't gonna pat yourself on the back. That's that's for other things to do. But dream Chaps is Dream Chaps is killing it right now. But even in the midst of that, you kept the format and the platform opening. He's like, yo, bot, what's up? And I can show

you my phone. It's literally I've been hitting month. Come funk with me because we tell because we tell the left Frac story to everybody. You know what I'm saying, and we got to get it out there. And I woun't have to tell it no more that we can just talk about this story and how many hours we sat and sweet this story. But this is this is a beautiful thing. Shout and shout out to revote for supporting you because you know, listen, Charlemagne, you gotta relax.

I got a little problem with you. Wait now, Charlotte Magne, you gotta stop this specum of vault because of the vault is what's holding us down. That is a different episode for a different day. But I can't thank you so much because you know why I want to thank you. I'm not only want to thank you because you're deserved to be thanked, but I want to thank you for staying here and understanding that hip hop has to be respected.

And the thing about it is so many people they say, they sit back and they say ah, and then you know what they don't do. They don't the actual bars, don't delude the actual culture. It's a difference between being a creative something me and they inherit or something I need you describe that hip hop is something that we were part of the creation. The new generation hip hop is something they inherited. So there's a different dynamic as the how hip hop We were there to create it.

They it was something they got on their birthday. You know what I'm saying. You know that's something they got for Christmas? Hip hop or something they got for Christmas, and it's not a bad thing, but they have a different discipline and a different dynamic that we have. And if we and if we look at it like that, right that hip hop was a right for us, right a writer passage, but for them it was a gift. And if we look at it like that, then we'll

understand the dynamic between us and the next generation. And you won't fault people for not being of the culture or understanding like being real health hop and none of that ship it was. We earned it and we gave it to them, and some of them don't do what we thought they would do with it. But to judge them is to judge our children, because we all got kids and they don't all do what we thought they were supposed to do. So and we're the children that

they're the children of hip hop. They're not the children of us, but we are. We are also children in hip hop. So we have to remember what we did when Cool, when Cool HERC and all of them gave it to us. We didn't really do what all of them expected us to do with it, you know what I'm saying. But it's still hip hop still exists, So we can't be mad because some of them are still keeping hip hop alive. It may not be what we

wanted them to do with it. But if you're a parent, you're just happy your kids alive, right, You're not even You're not even if your kids you just if you wake up in the morning, your kids alive. We got a chance and that's how I feel wake up the

whole We Got a Chance album. But he said, it's that old niggas stop acting like you knew because Tupac had a nose ring too, because losy Verd who I feel like he's speaking specifically because he has a nose ring and he clothes And it's very easy for us to judge young niggas based on what young niggas do right, and it's and it's easy for us to judge old people right because we look at the dynamic of how we got it right. So we look at the people for us, who got hip hop from disco, and we're

looking at people aftercls. We got hip hop from pop records and it being a part of the mainstream, and we you know, for us, if people don't go through the struggle to get to where we got, then we feel different. But You don't live your life for your children to have a struggle. You live your life for your children have it easier. And now we're sitting here judging our children because they had it easier than we had. We shouldn't be doing that. We should be raising them.

We're just not our job to judge them. So you have to love them and raise him. And you know what I'm saying, because when your children do, you don't cut your children off. Okay, how fucked up your children get. You don't cut your children off. You bring them back in and you try again. You bring them back to the principles and made you who you were. And you just keep praying that one day they'll wake up like you woke up. Because they're eighteen and we like your

but drink Champs, drink cha down, drink Champs. Yeah, but I can't think you're enough. And then you know the crazy thing is I never ever, ever, like kind of claimed that I met no And that's what's that's what's crazy. And like I said, hip hop artists that really funk with each other don't do music right. Like some some of this very exponsive, But the people in hip out that really bond bond over real life ship. We meet

people in real life scenarios. We realize, Joe, if I need to talk to somebody, I'm gonna call that dude. The rest of these niggas is just on TV and just a different type of nigga. But when she get real, Like, if me and my girl ever get into it, I'm gonna call that nick. Right, if me and my partner ever get into it, I'm gonna call that Nick. And you're blessed if you can find these people in the culture. You know what I'm saying, because the numbers is way

different from when we started. It was like dirty niggas and hip hop, and it's like I meet thirty niggas while I'm in New York before I get back to the airport that want to wrap. But it's a beautiful thing when when people who are in the same struggle find each other, and when we do, we don't exploit it, you know, because you're probably mad about your deal. I'm mad about my deal, and we don't want to let

these know. We gotta little Like the only time I've ever actually done a song where everybody on the song was like really friends was um, we did a song for um, what is it to be in medicine in South central whatever, And it's it's you g K PIMC. It's you G k um Lord Jama and Keith Murray and those are like some of the closest friends that I've ever had in hip hop nor including and that's

like the only song Niggas ever did. But those are people that like when I see them, I hugged them, like, Yo, nigger, Yo, you remember when you remember you beat We smashed on dude in front of the club and body have the party. I remember, like Yo took Washington and they haven't bought weed and told me he was the diggie's hood and like that, Like it's very very genuine moments when they have a very genuine moment with you that you tell your people about. I tell my people about now we

tell the world about. And that's the thing before we get about it. Yeah, I don't know how much love you really realize that New York love you do you realize that I knew that when I came in into Amsterdam, Okay, and no, no, I knew that when I came in the left rot right, I didn't have to be anything other than who I was. I was just a regular nigger from the hood, and niggas received it and I saw it happened. I didn't even I didn't know. No nobody gave me. I didn't. I didn't under Yo. He

just slapped dude. Okay, but it was a reason why, my Yo, those dudes. You've been sitting there talking too far with him and him and they go fight. Okay, now that I know why they need to fight. That was That was fine. I'm not gonna go into it. But everything that happened happened under the same scenarios where it would have happened where I grew up. And that for me was so eye opening, like yo, and for me it confirmed everything like that. Only is the world

to get that nigg is from together, you know. And I talked about the ghetto, the hood, and the trap. Those are three different places. They can all exist on one corner. But the ghetto, the hood and the trap with three different things and different people come for different things. But here's the thing, but is people, you have the worldwide ghetto past everywhere you the same way I'm talking to you. You can go to Atlanta and do this.

You can go to Pittsburgh and do this, and I'm gonna say this, and we're gonna shut it down with this, shut it down. My wife makes sure that I won't just use it for chicken wings we got just because you're going to the hood. It's always a good chicken wings. And if you got a hood pass, you can go to the real hood spot. But if you got if you got another of a hood pass to going to any hood and get chicken wings, you should be doing other ship, yo. But that's just that you're focusing on

me where we're all cameras you I'm focusing Listen. I couldn't now. Thank you so much for coming out, hanging out with drink Champs and doing what we gotta do what we gotta do. Do this open. I'm drinking you every type of liquor your butt. Thank you for coming hanging out with us, and that and that and that thing so extended play August twenty night, Monday. Let's talk

about that before we get up out of here. I've been trying to do an album, end up doing that for the two songs white People like look still do an album White People the movie you said White People, No White People owe me money, white white white people always wife does your money? Why you said, Look, I know you want to do your album. You might not get it out before the years over. Put some music out. You can still let people know where you're coming from.

You still can do your album like you want to. You still get them checks. I'm like, I'm like, we got forty two songs. We ain't putting a twelve on the album anyway. Shout out to the solo album. Ain't tell you not about that, but that's coming two later. But she was like, just put something on, like she said, because everybody's out there doing things and they're trying to do things. She's like, Yo, you got this music, you've been sitting on it. Let the world no throw it

out there because we got a different worldview. I'm trying to spend my whole life trying to save the game in the streets or whatever. And I realized by saving myself, that's how I saved my brother. You know what I'm saying, Like I've been trying to save my brother, but I can't save my brother until I saved myself. I found myself in a just being real, just so I can't do nothing for other people. And I do for myself.

And so my wife is like, look, this is what you want to do, then we're gonna stick to it. It's like going the studio. I did forty songs and forty two and she was like, this is what this is exactly what you wanted to do, So keep that. Now, what do we do with what's what else we got? And I was like, well, we'll put that out later. She's like, na fu later. People need to hear what you're talking about now because we're trying to do the right thing. Wife is my sister. I don't know, and

just being really closer together. You know. I didn't say when you're drunk, you don't lie. I'm just being honest. And she was like, look, she was like, look we can do this. We can because my whole thing is like I want to bite the allet. I mean, people call me to O G. I never called myself o G. Niggas called me o G. There's a connotation that comes with that when you accept being called as an o G, that at some point you gotta bite the bullet for

the next generation. So my album was the Biting was a concept of biting the bullet for the next generation. She's like, look, you have that, but you still need to let people know. Look the leadership coming, you know what I'm saying before that, like like let people know you're a leader and then be a humble leader. So I'm like, all right, so cool, so we'll come out, letting me go the South still here, just like Hove just came out. And my thing was, this is so funny.

I thought Hope was coming in December, so I was like, I need to get out before Hope whole drop. Like yo, so now we're good. We're good. So it was like and and and I love where Hove came from. Um, a person like jay doesn't have to be vulnerable, but that that that's so. That's so it's honorable for you to say that because you have one of the most

honorable records that jay Z has ever made. Is like, jay Z doesn't ever have to be anything but jay Z. Right, this is I think the closest we've seen is Sean right on Music talk about it. Well, I mean, I'm bumby. My wife doesn't call me bumby. Myife doesn't even call me. My mom does, didn't call me bunt me, Your wife don't even Yeah, I'm not even my wife's favorite rapper. So the dynamic is good wife and I have to assume that there's a there's a similar maybe your wife favor.

I know my wife's Savy rapp. Who is j Z. We gotta sucking up, you know, because I'm not gonna my masculinity. My mascul my masculinity is not built on my wife fantasy. If you don't go on my wife's reality, you know who that is. You know what I'm saying that is. I don't worry about black, but you know what that is. That's a real man. I'm just saying, real man can less. I don't care less. But that's now.

That's now. When she first told me that, I felt a certain way, you know, and my wife did a very good job made me feel secure about the fact that what I was doing the radio or what I love it. But it's a different thing. You know. If and he um his girl was in Throng song that was in Big Pimpinson and he was in she was not he she was girl girl. She was to bring this up. She was in a budget videos. She was one girl at the time and she no not no, you know what, let me can I say something about this.

If you're very concerned about the person that you want to be with, pass you can throw away the future this na. Can we just say that because I can guarantee you if you're a man worried about how many dudes your girl fuck you probably three four times before y'all came together, is that especially if you got money? But and that can I can I go? There? Could I just go? My pastor told me that there's no man built in this world that can handle what a

woman can handle. A woman can handle her man dealing with more than one man. But if a man finds out his woman step with more than one dude, that's how women get killed. Like that's murder, suicide all day. God built women to handle things that man could never handle, you know what I'm saying. And we're built to handle things physically like hit. I'm gonna tell you some real ship God built man to handle. I'm gonna keep it real.

God built man to handle ship on his shoulder. God build one and handle things in their heart right, so we can handle the weight of the physical weight of the world, but not the emotional. And you got a good woman is a good woman that can hold you woman that can hold you down when the emotional weight of the world down. My wife and my room, going the room with your wife, and I'm very love and

take and we will close it out with this. Nor You're not very lucky that as we go into these latest stags with our wife, um, as we transition from music to the next level, that we have the same support system because who it was very easy to be uplifted as an m C. Outside of that, it's very rough. There's a lot of anxiety, there's a lot of depression. There's a lot of stress. And if you don't have a woman, you gotta go to drugs. You gotta go to alcohol, you gotta go to pills, you gotta go

to sex, you gotta go to everything except that. And in my weakest moments where I felt like I need to smoke more weeks, I need to drink more liquor. God bless my wife, Like you know, you need more God, you need more family, you need more you. You know what I'm saying, You need more you and so and that's what this new music is about. And even me being here and being in position to do this podcast was about being honest about I have anxiety as an artist.

I get depressed about maybe I'm not in two thousand and seventeen, who I was a seven or ninety seven or whatever. But that doesn't mean I'm not a good man. That doesn't mean I can't provide. Right, here's a reality that a lot of artists have to deal with, and I'm glad we get to talk about this East all that come into the game. You have a record, you get paid for that record, and you assume that your

life is based on that record. So what you're getting paid for that record, you assume that's what you're gonna get paid for the rest of your life. And even if you find a rang a range of way, Okay, this is what the show is like from here on out. Maybe five thousand more or five thous and less, but this is what the show is. So you said, Okay, I can live my life around that, right. I got a wife, I got two kids. I can live my life based on what I'm getting paid. And you have

a third kid, and you have a fourth kid. Then your kids graduate and you got a kid going to college, you got a second kid. God, for a bit, you know, you're ino a situation like I said, God for a bit, but it's a beautiful thing because every child is a blessing. Then when your kids have a kid, so you're still getting paid in two thousand seventeen, which you got paid for two thousand seven for a show when you only

had two responsibilities. But now you've got five responsibilities. You still getting that show money, maybe even a little less. So you're still getting what you normally got, but your responsibilities increase. Your money don't increase, but your responsibilities increase. And then but at the same time, you look at your wife. You love your wife. You want your wife to be comfortable. You look at your kids, want your kids to be comfortable. God forbid, you've got grandkids because

they're all bets off. We're gonna do whatever we got to do it for them. But right, but you don't want them to work. So you take the worry that you would normally your wife would have about finance. You take that, the worry that your kids would have you have grandkids, you take that. You're dealing with all of that, and then you go around other dudes. I come around, nord Nor how you doing. I'm good? Be what's up with you? I'm good? That's a lot. I'm not good stress,

stress like a mother. Just be honest. It's just funked up, just funked up. But I don't be that. I'm not going up. I don't want to tell you that because from my perspective, I think you're eating right, and I don't want it to seem like you're eating and I'm not. So you're You said you're good and I'm good, but the reality is I'm not good. And if I talk to him, regardless of what he's eating, he's not good. Right.

It's not about the money all the time. You can make the money that you need to pay the bills, but it doesn't help the stress that you deal with, and that pursuit of those bills it doesn't alleviate. You can make the bills for July, right, and then you go to be everybody's happy, wife's happy, kids happy. Everybody goes to sleep at ten o'clock. You up at two in the morning. August September. You know what I'm saying. Birthdays, Christmas,

And that's what's wrong with us. We've put up these images of who we are, we want us ups to be, and we tell the people that we love that this is who we're gonna be, and they can rely on that person, and you can always count on that person. And this person comes, right, you can count on this person. It's five people, two other people come, mother in law, father in law, cousin, just in law, ten people, twelve people, fifteen people. You can count on this person. And nobody

understands that I'm not getting no extra shows. I'm getting no extra money, but I'm still taking on this ship. And you you don't end up telling anybody until Yo, I thought I was supposed to get this, it's coming. Don't worry about don't worry about that. You know you got that. Don't worry about that. I got that. And then this comes. Don't worry about that. I got that.

I got that and you and then I talked about them on New music in this in this world, and it's very easy to say in the entertainment industry, but this is a real world. We all end up at some point Robert Peter to paper and the only time it becomes a problem is what Peter gets mad. You know what I'm saying now here, Pop, Now, I'm gonna keep it. I'm gonna keep it. One hunted and hip hop. You can find a Peter with a bunch of money. They just want to be alone for the rock, right,

So just keep it real. And Peter's got X amount of money. So it's like you, if Peter funk with me, were gonna get from February to November, we're good money. We could Peter funk with us and then Peter SHEI get bad, Oh should get bad the same m and your family don't know that Peter is a part of it. It's crazy and you gotta trying to figure out how to make all this ship makes sense. This is not my issue, and any rapper that's watching this at least

me to the fun. Peter and Paul real talk. My bottom, My class is empty. It's not about looking. This is about real life. We gotta stop going to Peter to pay Paul. The record industry is built around you because they're Peter. That's who. That's who. Peter is, the record is that's the industry. That's the advance. Peter is the advance. Paul's the family. So you gotta go and get another advance into another album. I eat rob Peter to pay Paul. But the reality is Peter is mad because you're not

robbing Peter. Peter is just front you. That's where she gets bad. And then families fall apart because they thought you were Peter. You just being real, and that's where families fall apart. Keep going. And if you I used to say if your luck, I almost said it your luck, if you're blessed, you realize that God is Peter, and you've been leaning on him too long, for too long, and Paul is man, and you've been robbing God, taking every all the blessings and opportunities from God to make

man happy. And then God gets mad at you because you've never given him anything because you know what the reality is. You don't get mad at Paul. You get mad at Peter because the reality is Peter's and beholding you down. Paul is You've been front from Paul is the fan base, Paul is social media, that's who Paul is.

And he's shouting too, and Paul don't care. Paul yo the illusion I heard and this is literally from four weeks ago with the Bible studdy, and it was like most of us are going broke to prove to people we don't even like that we got money. That's not even my word word to John Gray, that's not even my word. And I didn't even really and I'm not living like that now, right, But I'm like, yo, I

did that at some point. So when you realize this ship, are you gonna keep lying to yourself on lying to the people because that's how we keep the shows up. I'm just I'm gonna with that right now. That's how we keep the shows up and the money and all of that is because people want to lie about where they are, and we co sign that lot. People want to be like, yo, it's all right, We're good, and we'd be like, yeah, that's all good. But the sooner we admit the truth about where we're at, the sooner

they can. Because I went to hip hop watching Chuck d and X claiming trying to be real about where I was as a black man, and they weren't getting paid for it like I get paid for it. And it's very easy for these the industry. I'm sorry, Rock, this doesn't go against what you guys are trying to promote, but it's very easy to go against that too. Maintain a lifestyle that you pray for, right because when you think about your family and your children, you don't think

about God. I'm just being real when we think about what you didn't have. We had God when were coming up, but we didn't have money, we didn't have opportunity, we didn't have privilege. So when we that's what we wanted for our kids. And then when you get old, at the point where I got grandkids, and I can look at my kids, it's growing people and that's what they I can see that that's what they wanted and needed. Was everything that made us who we were, but we

didn't make them what they were. Based on that, we thought about everything we didn't get or like I didn't get a tar reason coll Echo's, so when Xboxing and Playtation, I wanted to give them that. I was like to babysit and do other ship for Jordan's. So I wanted my kids to have Jordan's. But I was also raised to appreciate and respect and acknowledge God, and I didn't do that every moment. I'm not saying I didn't acknowledge God in my life, but there was some ship that

I didn't do when I should have done. And you know, I don't know if it's again, Rob, I don't know if this is against but but just to say, you know I saw God in you. You saw God and me, we didn't know it was God right and we're there now and taking God out of everything. I didn't know

who I was when I started it. I had more faith in who you guys were, looking at Copon Noriega, looking at my deep, looking at E. P. M D. Wanted to be emulative of that, and then realizing that I was already that when I met him, like this, nigg is me. I don't need to do like this. Nig is me. Killed that I was in Atlanta, people k killed that ed. You know, I gotta drink more and yo, God bless. I don't know what makes the room to make the podcast, but I know it made

the room. But I can't think usually enough but the drop. Before we get out of here, we just want remind you that you can buy drink Champs gear at your local DTLR store, so look up the store nearest to you. You can also buy drink Champs gear and other merch at drink Champs dot com or eight and nine dot com. Check us on Revolt TV every Thursday night at MPM. Then unedited audio drops Monday nights going into Tuesday at midnight.

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