Episode 90 w/ Wyclef

drink up mother Mother. Hey, Hank set Greed, I hope your softvia This is your boy in o R one up his dj e F and his Drink Chance, motherfucking podcast. Um not make some right now. I've got, hands down, one of the best producers, one of the most diverse artists, one of the persons who's been a part of the most influential groups in the world that changed the world, that help personally helped change me in my outlooking life. They came from the depths of the hell bottom and

they rose to the top. He continued to make hits for people like Carlo Santana, Beyonce, Destiny Child, and you know whatever else you want to say. In any pop star, they had to come to see They had to come and see him if they wanted to go to that next level. And right now we got walk Cliffs and wall Cliff Gan. So you know, this is how I gonna do it, because I'm a real fan. I want to take it from the Book of Basement. Is that what it's called. Yeah, it's called a bugger man. Yeah. Yeah,

the studio is called a bugger. But first, you know, I want to bring you salute from the whole, the whole entire Haiti. You know what I mean. You know, we love you, We salute you representative. Yeah. So so he ran for president. We wanted to make sure that that was clear. You know, that was the first thing. So I would say, man, the Book of Basement. You know, I was after Haiti leaving Brooklyn, came Marlborough, whole projects, Coney Island. Um, my dad was searching for a better life.

He brought us to Jersey and and we lived in East Sting. Yeah. So so from East Sterne I won oh seven, South Clinton. From there we moved to Nork. So I was back and forth between north and Easting. And you know, my dad was a minister. So when the church they had that it was that whole myth about circular music and so the same thing that the

Cats went through. That was in the seventies where if he was playing church music, you couldn't be playing you couldn't go to be playing club music, you know what I'm saying. So basically we had to sneak too. So when I was playing, you know, like if I was playing outside of the church, I was sneaking to do that because you couldn't do that around Yeah, it was blasphemous, so similar like Marvin gay Father. So for me, um, but my passion was battle rapping. So I went to

Velsburg High School. Anybody who's listening to this right now, Velsburg High School, you already know my first nigger is now, Yeah for Nelly. Now. I used to eat my fucker's up for breakfast, lunch, dinner, barely seventeen years or I was obsessed with just because coming from Haiti, I was like, You're the only way I'm gonna get attention and people to pay attention. It's almost like you gotta spit better

than them. So I took the vocabulary to Shakespeare, just became like a word smith, you know what I mean. And the book of basement. The way it sound, that's what it is. You know. I meant a con Acun came to the booker. Um that was actually Jersey City, correct, the Royal Black Warrior. Yeah. So so I'm you know, I'm gonna give it to you like the deaf man. A con was a barber like a this. Yeah, you know, I'm gonna give it to you. Yeah, one of the job. Yeah yeah, yeah, so a con one of his jobs. Man,

he was an incredible barber. But he always used to come to the Booger and he come to the book and be like, Yo, look cleft, listen to my music. I got this music. So in my hood I was like Dr Dre. So I was like that Haitian doctor. You're still like dry. He was coming this. Yeah. This was like you know when you watched the whole n w A and ain't let him. Yeah, well this is before this way before I'm talking about Yeah. So this like the foundation. So the Booger was the spot everybody

would come through. Now I'm gonna get another fact on a can. So when we did the score, um, there's a remix the Fuji Yeah, the Fuji Li remix. I put a carn on it. So this is like way before anything, like yeah, so so this is what. So when we did with La La La in the remix, I was like, Yeo, I gotta put this kid on it because I think like he's gonna go somewhere, Like he's incredible every time I see him. So whenever I used to do shows, I would just bring a car

on stage if he was there. So I only take you that far back to show you. So there was two sides of Jersey. We was representing the refuge side and then you had the outsiders. The Outsiders was Eminem Eminem, young z I dig a Pace one, so all of that was on the other side. So when we was doing the score, I was like, Yo, it would be dope if we could unify both clicks on one record. So on the score, the song Cowboys was when we unified it was Refugees and the Outsiders and we put

that together. Um outside, it was a Kom was on our side, but it was sort of like a Kom was doing his thing. It was just he always was on the grind. So even though when Fuji's was blowing up, he still was like, yo, you need to check out my music and that's all good. Years years later he blew up, But it's just to show you um Erica bad do. A lot of people came through that book of basement, you know what I mean a lot of

a lot of talent came through that basement. And it was crazy because Diamond D, I remember Diamond D shout out the diamond d Um Salam remy salam. Salam is like nah salam is like the ghurrule, like before the Fuji's, before everything, like yeah salam. Did you know that Amy Winehouse documentary when she's talking about the sense and she she's calling the freestyle. Yeah, yeah, so she's calling him so mom was the like Salon was doing hits man. I think he was like fifteen sixteen years old. He

was like the dude doing like the super cat. All of that crazy stuff that was like that was like flex flex right hand man. So for me, all of those that was really to come up. So to think that all of that really came from the book up, I told people, I said, what the Fuji's and Steve job gut in common. You know, Steve jobs invention was

in the garage. I invention was in the basement. So so you being from Hayde coming to you, you went to Brooklyn first, because I think you went to Brooklyn and then you went to Jersey, right, Yeah, we lived in Brooklyn, lived in Brooklyn, went over Brooklyn and you. But but Haiti is a Caribbean correct. Yeah? How was that that first call when they said, Yo, Shakiro must to work with you. Did you think about did you think about because that's the first thing I'm thinking about.

I don't just you don't have to clarify, honest, I'm sorry, I forgot awkward show. The funny thing about the Shakira record, um is that that record was done two years before Shakira. I did it for a movie called Havana Knights. So Clive told me that he wanted it. And at the time we said Cloud from Flatbush who used to sell you know what. Yeah, so yeah, so that clop So Clive hit me up like, yo, I'm doing a soundtrack

and I need a joy from you. So for me, the host, the whole idea of what I do, because you know, Haiti is this Spaniola, so it's like basically Haiti and the d are. Graphically it's really one really leak. But for Columbus actually discovered that island. Well, he didn't discover it, he came there, and that people was already there. It was actually originally called espani and that was Dominican Republic. And I'm sorry, I got smarter. I'm so sorry. Let

me get back to dog. I don't want people to know the French colonized the Haitian side, right, Yeah, is that the way when the Spaniards stayed on the Dominican side, that was the division. Yeah, and somebody a pussy along the Yeah, I see you dancing. I don't repeat these bad words. Yeah. So, so basically he just wanted me to do the song for the movie. At the time, we had a group called City High So City. We

had to startis Clauder artiste. She got pregnant by the other guy, right, which came later, right, it was Kane later. A lot of mistakes, you know what I mean, learned from one club not so so it was you gotta persse. No, no, I'm sorry, you was breaking on. I didn't get him pregnant yet, I didn't get nobody pregn That was bad, so nobody would be mad at you. We thought it was your baby for a long time. And be honest, no, no, no, Billy Gen just a girl that my side. I don't

know what do it back with? There were forwards continue yeah, so so so we do it for the movie and the record sits there, and you know, Clive, I was like, Clive, record feels special. I think it's bigger, but he was like, no, it's just for the movie. So two years later, I get a call from Donnie Isa and Charlie Walk and Charlie Walks like, Yo, we need a record for Shakira because we're trying to get her on the other side of the fence. And Donnie is also a big guy.

Let's continue. And she hadn't done it by lingual record yet at this point. Yeah, it was there. They had a few records on her, but they was trying to cross her the way that I had crossed Santana over. Yeah, college thought, but yeah so so then um so I told him, I said, look, I got a record that I was sitting here for two years. So anybody if you listen to an original record, it was on the Havana Knight soundtrack. It's Claudette singing it word to bond.

It's the same record. The only thing I added was Shakira, Shakira, shak So I get the call man and and then it Shakira, it's real talk. And then so she hits me up, called you direct, Yeah, she needs to hear Yeah, so Shacky calls me yeah, so so Shaqa and she's like, um, I was like, yo, you know you heard the record. She was like, I loved the record, and she was like, I had I had a dream about you. Yeah, so exactly, I don't know what it's going. I didn't know where

it was going. I was in, I was in, I was nick, I was too dick, I get the car and Shocky's um. So the dream isn't what I wanted to at the time, but it was just the fact that we was connected and then we we we met in Miami, and when we got together, I would say, what made that record special was the fusion. She came with that straight Columbian fusion. And sometimes you could write a record, it's like a movie. It takes a certain actor to make the movie a hit, a certain actress.

So basically I remember me and Jerry doing that the record, Yeah, Jerry one to my partner, and then she basically I remember she was like, yo, if my hips don't move, the record ain't a hit. So when she said that, like I was like, Wow, we're gonna have Shakira dancing in the studio for eight hours. I started banging on everything and and then that's how really the magic happened. And from there, um, you know, she she recorded the record.

We put the cultures together. It's something about when you it's an out a rhythm dog when you put cultures together, and because that kind of music is no longer music, it becomes just a cultural phenomenon, you know what I mean. So that was the situation with that, and it was an incredible and it felt like y'all kind of did that on the hip hop side with Cypress right before that with Cubans be Haitians. I felt oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

big time, big time. But for me, you know, the Mountain Pop for me is like as much as I'm Haitian, no one can't tell me I ain't La. No one can't tell me I ain't African, because you know, if I if I started to play SUSA or Caribbean, if you close your eyes and I start to play piano, so you'll be thinking of from Cuba because for me, no one could, Okay, dope me Like, at the end of the day, we want people they separate us or whatever. But for me, it's like, I know, I got family

from Cuba, from Jamaica or whatever. You know what I mean, we all exactly were connected by them drum. So that's that's how I want happened. Man. So let me ask you something. You the Shakira called now that you just yeah, come on, get cool, like I still got call. But so you're saying you got the Carlo Santana call prior that that that record came prior For some reason, I thought she Carra came first. Yeah, no, you know at the Santana. Remember I did Santana and I did Whitney Houston.

God you did what Yeah I did. I'm doing that rope. My love is your love? Your love forget it would take Oh my god. Yeah, I hope we never did you so, but it's super now. Now, now here's the reason why Carlo Santana for artists like us, right, it's super like special because Carlos doesn't sing. All he does. This is me. I'm sorry, I'm mad. I was not. Come on, that's me it's me, it's so m so called Santana traditionally doesn't actually sing on the records. He

actually tried to compose. So when Carlos called you, what was your very first thought? First though? Did you think it was Carlos Santana or you knew because you was that bag? You know the way that it happened. It happened through Clive Davis. So claud is like, just then from flat like me, get that, you'll stop clapping. You can't be around here if I clap. Your clapp stepped up in the building ahead. So Cloud on Flatbush calls, Yeah,

so Cloud from flatbushit me. You know, he gave you the big guyfather talk, you know, and the talk is like, yo, White Cleff, I know you study press by the way i'd be seeing your impression. Does study jazz? And I've been thinking what do you think about the fusion with Carlo Son turn off? And I was like, yo, I love Carlo Santan. Now he's on Arista at the time. And then you know, and then Clive then he gonna hit you with that pressure. He's like, okay, you have

twenty four hours. So basically, so when I do these records though, it's like all of my records got schemes in the man, like you know what I mean, I break down the fundamentals, you know, saying hip hop is one of my schemes. But growing up in the hood, I used to escape, and I used to scape and watch movies. One movie I used to watch this West

Side Story. And West Side Story is a deep story, man, It's about like gun culture, you know what I mean, gang culture, clash culture and m and then remember West Side Story. The girl name was Maria, Maria lay. I happened to product M. Man. That's a good question. So the finished, Yeah, but don't finish it. We never knew who they was from the beginning. No, no, you know what. So so one thing that you said, which is um

is how the records are put together? Right. So from a composer aspect, right, the first thing I'm gonna do is I'm gonna say who can sing this? Right? So I was obsessed with David Ruffins. So Product GMB from from from from Long Island Kids Money Harm had that vocal where it was like yo, he just had because I needed some body, Like you said, Santana ain't a singer he's an instrumental cologne, like really cologne in Puerto Rico.

Really cologne only plays instruments. Correct. Yeah, and well was a singer, but so that's what called is, so I had to put the whole Yeah, no, that's dope what you said. So to your point, So as a composer, this this is where you know, reality has to always How I'm able to do this over and over again, it's because my background is, like I'm a hip hop up, but I'm a jazz major and like I love jazz, so jazz is based on the composition. So I got to set the scheme up. So there's a few schemes

on that record. The other scheme is I'm a big fan of Wu Tang Clan and that whole record. Did y'all hear the part that was that sounded like blue time? No? Okay, So I'm gonna grab my guitar. Got this is a different type of podcast. We got niggas with guitars and ship. It's a Haitian day. Let's says your day. I'm not

gonna yeah, everybody be quiet, everybody be quiet, please continue. Yeah, So this is what we're going to producing one on one vibe and we don't want to play this or nothing right now, we ain't got it reaching the music. You're gonna clare it man, I hone it even say that one more time, right, so check it out. So so when I'm composing, right, so the first part we composed was right, So that was the first zone you tell me, and they all feel every on that record.

So so then when we said, Wutan Clan, ain't nothing the funk with. So one of the things I thought the public would identify with with Santana's an instrumentalists, right this where the Haitian comes out, somebody who plays the instruments. I was like, what if I could take this this RISI scheme. Yeah, so what if that's ain't nothing the fun with ain't I'm giving them my hip car hip hop car for one day, that card for one day. So when we said, um, we said, I'm playing by

Car a little Santana in the record. Yeah. Yeah, So my whole vibes being about the matchups. As a hip hop student, you know what I mean. I consider myself a hip hop guitarist first, so so I think a lot of the records like I always pay tribute too so that fusion came out like that because of you know what I mean, like when when and then so that scale sounds like Wu tang, but it's originally a gypsy scale. So Santana is the king of that gypsy scale. So at the end of the day, even though Rizzle

would bring it back in a different form. So for me, that it all boils down to the basic science. You're there. Yeah, so l wait but did that science translate to the to the new calid record? So so so so yeah, we can say in the record, you're right, um wild thoughts Rihanna. Did they clear that record with you? Yeah? Definitely, so so cold who I've known, man, we're all good for we all know. Yeah, so we we you know, I go back with Colored. That's like brother to brother together.

Well yeah, that's how far he with Yeah yeah. And then like people don't even know like I used to like clash like dub plates, so I used to this is there's a part of me like in Miami in the early days with Colored. Yeah, so dudes don't even know, like I could show up with a crate the murder of the place. So so for me, um, so I get the call from from my brother Colored and he's like, yo, just this one seemed like it's this this cleft. You don't understand. This is gonna be the biggest one. And

bom bom bom boom um. So we need to get Santana to you know, to clear it. On his part, Um, I know you in Santana did the record. So I called up Madeline Nelson, my CEO. Um, she got Santana and Santana's like my godfather. So Santana cleared it. Now, this is what I love most about that. I remember when I was doing let Me Softly with the Fuji's killing me one time, two times, and then her reality struck me after I did that record, because the record

blew up like crazy. And after the record blew up, I was like, damn, we just made somebody a gazillion dollars of publishing because I didn't know how that worked, because you could you clear it. But at the end of the day, so it just it's a beautiful thing to be in two thousand and seventeen to hear the new generation sampling either the Fuji's or music by why Cleft is incredible man. So he directly sampled your version

you know that. That's that's the way I just want to But yeah, and then just S was at the guitar. That was the guitar was so basically when you hear this, so so the whole group is this for some reason. But it's the foundations. So a lot of the foundations. That's how we create them, you know what I mean. But that's how that want to happen. So from there, like I said, so um, Clive Davis knew I had the Latin parse with me, you know what I mean?

And I go back so far. This is why I be crediting, like you paun, like you don't know, like I go back back with the music as a as a student, I go so far back right, I go back to Evie Queen. So one of my reporter we can almost walked up. That's one throw out there. We had sting raised, sting raised on hunting thirty second and what fifth have no sting raised. In case you guys don't, they got to rock cool lotta. They got the del

Leon is the best to killer in the world. And you know they got Wick left and the drink champion in the event. Everybody here, that's why you know what I'm saying, don't forget sting raised. Come see us. The older got a cowboy hat on. We got gott he will kicking and guess what and guess what he's We are also leasing a horse very soon. Bring your kids. You have a dunkey in the front and back. Let's do a sting raise for the second up town. Yeah what we we we we. I was ready to go

somewhere else. It's ready to go. Remind us when we're coming back. We come back to that. Okay, listen, you gotta relax that this is where I want to go. L L and Cannabis has a problem. Yeah, you picked cannabis. I respected your decision, but I knew you wasn't gonna win or that because this is l L Cool Jack at the time, and l L had all the backing from the whole universal system. This is the first artist that actually developed university. So I just want to know,

why was it loyalty because that was your artist? Because I heard somebody say that that was I didn't never knew kind of signed just your friend. Okay, so you know I'm a I'm an artist, but before artists, I'm a personality from the Caribbean. So when you know, so I said, I'm never ashamed of my friends. You know, so I grow up as a Caribbean youth. Um, we're very strong where I come from. So when Cannabis approached me, he approached me on a calm versation. It was not

it was in a music conversation. So so you know the gist of my problems. So the gist of my conversation with Cannabis, it wasn't based on It didn't start off musically. It's just well, yeah, it was. It was just certain people come to talk to me about when certain things happen sometimes you know, if someone goes this is probably one of the most historical battles in hip hop. Yeah yeah, so so ye're definitely one of the most

historical battles. So once again, right, so me and you were not communicate right at this point, So you got you looking at it like, yo, the cleft just choose aside, right, yeah, yeah, because it looked like on the you know what I mean. So because now I'm gonna tell you that's right, because now I'm gonna tell you the way it goes down. So the conversation with Cannabis was as followed he comes in the studio, Um, he lays his part. He's a big l L fan and the tattoo on his arm,

you know. Um, He's like when it comes to l L at that time, like, there's nobody bigger than l L. Co J. Cannabis had the l L walk. He just loved l L. So he was like yo when he left the studio, l L came in later verse this is L's record, by the way, that is yeah, the record that started off yeah so so so basically Cannabis point of view was like yo, when l was like, yo, the tattoo on my arm is off limited to challengers,

you know. And in Cannabis verse, he was acting couty Barrow, give me the right, give me the give me the mic on your arm. So now now what Cannabis decides to do is now keeping mine. I'm a producer, and so l L Is puts his record out and Cannabis says, I have an idea for a record. Right now, I'm gonna have a long conversation with Cannabis before he goes there, Right, I might have take my glasses off take a shot too.

I think, yeah, look, this is this is the rock at Okay, you heard of this, all right, this is the right now drink okay, this is getting the stout from over there all right? But look how a shot with me? Fuck up? Yeah? Let me helps open. It's one is open. It's one is open, right there. Come on, here's at going in a second round. Knockout right now? Second? Yeah, so we got oh he passed that right here? Ye, latta, everybody focusing on me the best beat a wife. That's

what I do, baby, that's what I do. I leave pup. Listen, you heard jay z new album. You gotta push your people brand. God damn it. I'll bounced over that. Good. That was good. You have a drinking you know what. I'll bring you on some rumbob buncle next time. Yeah, big of the state race. We'll open the doors. You ain't taking the shot. I gotta take a shot. Just don't don't be heady cut, don't take it yet. I gotta get you got the broll. I got one for

her class. I don't know what you know? Please? Can you remember where we was at? Me? I'm talking about where we're talking about. No, we know best? Why cleft being my friend for so long? Well, listen, please, everybody focusing on me? Why cleft, You've been my friend for so long and I don't know if you understand or you know what Drink Champion says. But so many shows they want to get these artists there and they want to ask them who they fucking, who they fucked, and

all this other ships. Not what we do here. We salute our artists because you know what, what was it that you sound like a pig? Don't, my friend? We do with our artists is I'm a quote unquote legend. That's what they want to say. I don't give a funk about that ship. But what I am first and foremost as a fan, and I'm a fan of people perform I'm a fan of people in the middle of me and a fan of people are after me, and that's what I want to do. I choose to celebrate

hip hop. I don't, I don't. I don't care about these other shows, these other podcasts or whatever they do. That's not what we do. What we do is we celebrate all motherfucker's and you need to be celebrated tonight. Tonight, this is what is the best in the world. Baby will get down down on you know we're buying tickets online for sports and concerts has been confusing process for

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I'm sorry, I'm sorry. You just you just need a shot. You. I don't know who you would. I'm sorry. I'm not coming to you. I'm married, but I just I just want to make you have one. Well, I don't know you look like Becky because I just want to get you. I just want to get you to take a shot. Girl, Take a shot girl? Your name hello? Shot? Got there? But that's good. I'm married so I'm not gry that you serious, I know, but you look like you needed who you would you look arian? Come here a look

your names. He doesn't mean what's your name? Just what? It ain't the wrong one? I was close, look, I said, Becky has and I come on, come on, everybody shouting, I'm taking this shot. Where's the what about? Listen? You're taking a shot. I'm taking a shot for clap because you know why you gave me an empty body? It looks right. Look at that, yo. Let me tell you something. Everybody focusing on me. Rob's loving the building. Step morey more in the buildings. Listen, let me tell you something,

Freeze listen. And our culture, it's kind of corny to pick up somebody else. If you say you are leg you know you somebody that's made it as somebody that got money or somebody got status, and you pick up somebody else in our culture. That's corny. And guess what I need to change that? We just got forty nine million. Do we have to buy CBS gonna take care of you know? But I'm saying should they take care of that? As as as a party, a good party, tell Us

was a fifty million plaque. But listen, in our culture, people don't pick up each other. People don't say great job hazard, Its sounds great job communicating, Sonny Drain. We appreciate your pictures. People don't say that in our culture. And you know what we gotta do, being that we have a platform and we have an audience, we have to change that. One of our best episodes and people

that tuned in was when we saluted prodigies. And we love Prodigy, but we wish we were saluted Prodigy where he was alive, absolutely and were course, we gotta give our legends. They flowers when they can smell, and they treat and relaxed and something and some things, and my drinks when they can drink. You understand what we gotta do. Listen, so many people praise people when you're going away and you die, and it's great, but that person could have

really appreciated live. So why cleft tonight we want to praise you. Why we want to salute you? And I'm taking a shot. I don't know who poured me the

shot me? Are you on the book a basement to the president of Hay This nigger was two seconds away from being the president of Hay, Yeah, you think, Joe, this is like taking a shout with Bill Clinton going to the time, looking about why clap always room that we're going to continue, and didn't want to count three clap one two, three to tweet, to tweet what club flags? Be honest to get something to me this time? Something

this time. I don't know what I've never happened. So you know we're going back the second round, knockout, knockout. We had those infamous Battle records because the deal clapp Mike Tyson on this record and all everybody listen, anybody listening, anybody listening, but every white girl conversation, come over here, listen, because here's a deal. We didn't know. We knew you produced the record, but we didn't know you got dragged into the battlem So what was the ZAC movement? You

got dragged because you produced the record for cannabis? Is that's true? Yeah? But the whole record was like sun Suit the Art of War. So when you told me who won, right, So we're gonna get into who actually

won right? So who one for me? Would start off with the conversation that I had with cannabis, And it's a conversation I had with Cannabis is like, Okay, if you want to really go on this route, there's a few things that I have to let you know that's going to happen, and you have to be ready because I got because what happened is at the end of

the day's chess. So with any of course, because I'm a fighter, right and then so Cannabis is a young bull, right, so my job is I gotta give him the information. Right now, I come from the Caribbean. So if like I say, like I'm really the Haitians or not you for real? Like, and what I mean by that, like, I'm never embarrassed by who my friends are, right, so I'm looking at you all, but I was just looking so when you know, So what I mean the reality of it is like you know, we we all grow

up in a certain environment, you feel me. So it's like, okay, like I ain't a shame, Like my mama took a gun out of my hand, put a guitar in my hand. Right. So but at the end of the day, we all came up like once upon a time in America, right, So it's like it's still my family. So whether if it's gangsters It's still my family, you know, whether if it's my brother that's a lord, is still my family.

So at the end of the day, I felt like, as a Caribbean man, if someone comes to me from the Caribbean, I have an issue, I'm gonna address it, but I want to know how you want to deal with it. So Cannabis said, I want to deal with it on some music stuff. So being you want to deal with it on some music stuff, let me explain

to you who L L COO J is? Okay, so this is the this is me this so so yeah, so so let me tell you and it's good because the beautiful thing about this is the beautiful thing about this is l L is listening, you know what I mean? Because L give you know how when things happen, you get a one way perspective until this. So this is

the real conversation, right. So basically, um, where L L COO J. You know, coming from Haiti and watching that movie when L L comes out with the radio and he places it down and then he goes into it. I mean, this is the reason, you know what I mean. So now we all take this and we say, if we want to be battle rappers. We take this. This is one chapter of how we hit the block. When we hit it with that determination. So I said, look, at the end of the day, you want to go there,

I'm gonna go there with you. But there's a few things that's gonna happen. One is I want you to understand that l L is loved. You know, l L is loved by dusing the streets. You have his people. But at the same time, l L like me, he has a high female basse. And when you have a high female base, it's hard for somebody to knock you down, right, because what that means is, at the end of the day, even if niggas don't want to funk with me, the chick's gonna be like, yo, if you want something, you

better play someone, please call. At the end of the day, it's gonna go there. So so we have it's but but you my men thought, and they like this nigger, I got the knight. I'm sorry, no, no, I love it baby, so so so after this conversation, after this conversation, we go into it and now in order to compete with a giant, right, because l L is a giant. The first thing that we have to do is we gotta come up with a scheme. You feel me so, and then then so the scheme becomes second round knockout.

And then so Mike Tyson at the time beep in mind, I don't know what Mike was so so so so so Mike. Once again, the strategy was war right. I'm a composer, right, so keeping my whether if it's Santana or anything, I'm gonna come from the level of composition. I'm gonna put a Shakespeare movie together. That's what I'm gonna do. So so in putting this movie together, you

know we need Mike. You know, Mike has to say he eats people, you know, ears and you know what we need that we need that it's about to go down on some hood Shakespeare vibe. Now, keep in mind, at the end of the day, it's no beef with nothing. It's still it's hip hop, right, Because when I came from Haiti listening to Carreras one these are this is

how you can settle a situation. So Cannabis does the record, and Cannabis was one of the first artists I literally used to watch sit on a laptop computer just right on. Ye seen that in the Hit factory one time. I came in and then I said, yo, and they just started right now. I said, I gotta leave. Yeah, you know, he just the right rounds on paper water. Yeah, and it was like, yeah, you know, like that on the computer. That's the first seen right around yeah before because you

know your phone wasn't that so back then? Then said he said, you know, I said, I said, yo, you know that that's the natural thing to see another MC y'all need the verse and they're like yeah. He was like the yeah, what is that? Immediately Yeah, I'm so sorry, No, no, no, that stop. At least somebody else seeing cannabis writing rounds on computer. Yeah, So he was one of the first. So he did that. Now we did the record, and

Second Round Knockout comes out. Now, when Second Round Knockout comes out, the once again, when we talk about hip hop and we talked about the culture. That's why I say, you already know me. I'm a culture bunny. So I'm always inside of the culture somehow. So I got dragged into a situation for me that you got dragged persons outside looking in. I feel like you just produced the record. And then L said, and then you had to response,

So now I get dragged into the record. So l L. Basically now he goes and he now he has to do his response right because it's Shakespeare jounson. And then the process of his response, he calls me the Bob Marley imposta right good. Yeah, you know this ship gets funnier, yo,

I'm gonna tell y'all some real ship. So but the thing is, though, it's like, the thing is the way that I love l L and was obsessed by him, and he know when I came from Haiti, like one of my skits was holding the radio act like I was talking to Russell Simmons, but I had an invisible mirror in front of me, so so so for me, so I was like, okay, now this is what I mean by its chest. So what I did was I said, now that he called my name, so I have to

be careful because I'm on my gude to novembership. Right. We got a lot of got to be really careful because we see that happen. We see that happen and stuff where Nigga will call you out and depending on how you respond, it means your doom day because you gotta be careful because you gotta know what you But in all honesty, Cannabis is in trouble. You're not really in trouble because you know your financial is great. But

you're a hip hop person. That's what makes you feel like you're in trouble, not your financial But wait, wait, at what point do you see Cannabis in trouble? Because it's such a great record, But didn't tell you when didn't go I'm gonna walk that finish and I'm telling you we're not new Cannabis in trouble. Well, I mean, I know the little side of it. We've done the podcast on So what happened was we talked about what would happen when you did this record? Right, so I

think like a few things had to happen. So when Cannabis did this record, one of the things that had to happen is now his entire album would have had to been changed. That's the first state, because he was bigger at because what happens was one second round knockout comes out that it's so so Now what would have to have happened was it would have to be eleven more second round knockouts. Of course, not towards l L now,

but towards the culture. So take all of that anger now because now when you do second round, knockout the next ship you're gonna do Nigga's gonna want to hear whatever. That next thing is the King. That's right, you went at the king. So so in this process, so now he has to So l L takes a shot at me. But meanwhile, what was this shot? I forget what we said? Yeah,

so now I didn't so I do a record. So when he does this record, so brilliance, brilliance is I said, Okay, I know who this guy is and I know who's backing them, and now yeah, and I said, this is l L. This is the King. And now I said, I'm gonna respond with the record. Now I respond with the record. The record is called What's Cleff got to do with It? And now this record is brilliant because what happens is I'm asking l L What's Cleff got

to do with it? And on the record, I attacked all of L else bosses at the time, so I don't even talk about like I barely talked. So I talked about L else bosses. And now I said, I gotta neutralize him at the end of the record, and I know that we're gonna meet me somewhere if we're playing chess. He has a female fan base, and I'm going to November. So then I called up my friend at the time, Naomi Campbell, and said, Helmie. You know, So I called up Naomi, and Naomi, I need a

dub play at the end of this record. Help come on, Naomi, I Jimmy, Yes, good girl. So so Naomi does the end of the record, and so she's like, l L you need to give it up. You need to stop. This is now. When I put a top model at the end of the record, you know, you can't say I don't like females or I'm gonna so I'm coming straight for your bass. So for me and doing that, um, the only reason I even did that, bro, because I

felt like I didn't when he did that record. I went back home and my girl, right, she like, she's like I call a buoy bougie hood. So she was in the in the beauty salong with her girlfriends, and so I came and the L L record was playing, the disc record playing, So I came home on some Will Smith ship you know what I mean, like I can't something that's She was like, she was like, while I'm till you're here, and why I'm trying. You are

blood clad mile and pasta. So y'all got city and eat the chicken in r I said, not respond to the one word. Leave it to a woman. A woman always sends the king to word. The queen always sends yeah, you gotta respect the queen. Yeah. But but in all seriousness, it was like the amount of respect that I have for l L and contendue to have for l L. I would say it was at the punch funeral, you know what I mean, when I saw him um and

after that I like shook his hand. But for me it was it was a battle, you know what I mean, And it was all I want him to get out of it even til today, is like we were so obsessed by him at the time. He just wanted to be him. And you think when you just produced the record for Cannabis that you can stay out of it. No. I knew once. I mean, it's the art of war, right, you would have ganged you with a gang, so I knew it even got worse, Like forget about the fact

that I did the record. I was the freaking referee in the video. So once I said, but that's the kind I knew that. I was like, look, we're gonna go in. He's gonna come at me, He's gonna come at you, but you have to be ready. And I would say, really, the first Fuji album was Blunted on Reality and that ship sold two copies. The second one

was to score cannabis first album. I felt like after his first album, he just copped away, like you know what I mean, because he wanted it so successfully, and I think you got like three shots in this game. I think one to three. Until today, I always say Cannabis is one of the most lethal its lyricists that I've ever heard in my entire life. L L is one of the greatest hip hop entertainers that I've ever seen in my life. And because of l L, I

know how to control the stage, you know what I mean? Yeah? Yeah, radio facts with facts. So so do you think that so what what what intent does it make a person to say that that this person is a star? Is it all those qualities that you just said, yeah, to make a person a star? Well, okay, so I remember that yeah, I remember no no, no no, but you know you know no, I no, no, you mean so so empower military, empower military, right, So it's a general.

What we do is when we want to get information from the certain people, right, what we do is we make them drink to the point where they lose their consciousness and they start to tell I'm watching you man, I got you come on. We go way back definitely. So for me, what makes it a star is the IT factor. So I remember um Sony was like, yo, cleft as these four girls, you have to go listen to them sing. We need you to do a record

for them. And I go in the hotel and it's four girls and I remember like, Yo, It's like Yo, what would you like us to sing for you? Mr? I was like yo. I was like, yo, I'm from the church in a church song. And one of them girls just stepped out and just the way she started going. I was like, that was the if factor And that was Beyonce, you know what I mean. And you know

what the if factor is. It goes deeper, right, the if factor goes deeper because you know who's going to be the it because they're studying, right, So if Beyonce is listening to this right now, right, this is what's the deepest. This is Yeah, she probably listened. I just got you three females nampell right. So so this is this is the if factor which determines it. To me. I remember us performing like I'm performing on stage, and I remember Beyonce on the side of the stage watching.

That's the ny Child already performed. Stay even she's dead, she would sh you would. I'm performing. That's why class Carnival, right, I'm performing. Yeah, Carnival three first, Yeah, the first one. Carnival three is soon Carvo three three r as they said, that's so Carnival. I had to piss for like two hours, but I've been homely because I'll respect our class so much. Yeah, you know, if you got pissed, we'll just take a piss break. No, it's okay, just be drink. Don't stop

calling up. We're gonna go Carnival. Stop. Stop take a kill ready stop? Good? You look you look like even tanned up every bad. I don't know what even that beach, but I'm a good way. You gotta knows. It's not my sister. He's really like that rock man. We're talking about the album, the album, the new album three. Yes man, you know, listen everybody, Carnival three. Yeah, you got you got, you got, you got um Shakira on it. Yeah, this is what makes it. No, no, no, I'm saying, yeah,

this is what makes this album dope. Right. So for me, it's twenty years later and we celebrating the Carnival. And the first Carnival was all people was like, yo, you can't do a record. You can't do a hip hop album and four languages and get it to sell. It don't exist. And I was like no, I said, I'm from Haiti, Espaniola. We speak Spanish, we speak French, crayon. We're gonna get it. And so the Carnival. Yes, So the Carnival broke records like it did like seven eight

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it out. I'm hearing the record out of nowhere and the record is called wy clep Sean And I'm like, yo, who did this record? And why is this? Like you like that? It's the trap record? So to this record up? Gotta let you all fulling up right the record? So the working we're gonna play it though. So it's a young man by the name of Young Dogs and decided, come on, y'all, not got it, y'all, nigga's not got a riddle, y'all. No, No, that was a scheme. But

so but who produced that record with Super Mario? And I was like, yo, this no, this little kid was just coming up. He's worked with Drake. But you know, I was like, this kid sound his frequency? Sound like why Clefford twenty years old? Who's this kid? Like? How how how is he doing these drums in this So the whole thing about Carnival three is I went and I got all of the kids that were influenced by the Carnival. When the Carnival came out, there was twelve thirteen.

So you got Super Mario, you got the Knocks, you got um Wavy Boy. So what happens is now The fusion on Carnival three is the nephews meet the uncle. So it sounds like Teddy Riley meets Michael Jackson or Michael Jackson meets Quincy Jones. What happens with that fusion? So we put so so it's sort of like, so if I'm coming from nineties seven with a certain sonics, what happens when you put that twenty seventeen against those acoustic guitars? What happens? So that's the whole idea with

the Carnival, the Carnival three. So we got two joints up. One is called what Happened to Love and the others called Fella Couti. So basically, um, we we were back on that bullshit, you know what I mean? Yeah, and you're rich as fuck. That's one way to rich. Listen, but tell those names, Tell these niggas that cycle picture you talk. You had the speed, you gotta, you gotta the way, he was well defined, the oil yell that was that was a house laid Come on you was

richardlf and five million dollar house? Is that? Am I correct? Eight man? Yeah? Yo, I mean you know it is what it is, right, But I mean the Ducatti pick Man. Yeah your real talking. I've seen my Twitter get divided. Right when I think that ship, all the niggas ran on damn mine, you know what I mean? It was I did again. Yeah it went crazy, man. You feel like just the one minute, next minute, yo. But you know why I did it, huh, just to get back to the fact that I'm human, and like I'm human,

my nigga. Like I felt like so many people was coming at me at this time as if I wasn't human, Like it was like, yo, do try to run for president? His charity bomb. But it was sort of like dudes was coming at me as if I didn't have a family, as if I'm not from the culture. And I was like, dude, I'm a ray, I'm that dude that used to be

on the block making niggas laugh. So it was like at the end of the day, I stripped it all down and I knew with my antics that everybody would talk and get back to the fact like this is a regular nigga at the end of the day, you know what I mean, So shout out to the speed Like I feel like, if it wasn't for you er for president, I think like you kind of gave Trump the idea, Come on, man, because you almost I'm not putting it on you. Sorry that no, No, what clapp

was the first hoodrom President. I'm gonna tell you what's big. I'm gonna tell you what this from that sweet Niggi brother, it's going down. I mean, okay, So here's a few facts to your point. No, that's not my point. No, I'm gonna show you you got you hitting on. I'm gonna show you like you're hitting on some science. So

it's important that the listeners fully get your science. Because you're hitting on some science that I'm gonna get into because I feel like Trump seeing you and said this thing almost made Trump almost very president, and he said, let me try so now and then nigga want I think it's your fault. Now, we wouldn't put it on me. But now because you're you're your use this close. You know I was sitting that you're finally eligible. Yeah, well

the first part of it. If you're no, no, if we if we go online, right, you'll find a picture of me Donald Trump, sweet Mickey together. That sounds like a Controversyka, just listen to this. Listen to this, sweet think he's the old ain't even president yet present. You know, it's just three celebrities, the biggest artist. I'm taking you three, so Mickey. So basically sweet Mickey, it's like for me like he's our Michael Jackson, if that makes sense, Like

he like we all grew up with his music. Sweet Mickey was the president. Correct, Yeah, but listen to how he became the president. So when Michael Michael Jackson become the president. Yeah, so this is like in Haiti. Yeah, because but think about this when I took the picture, this picture becoming president. Yeah, exactly. So when I took this picture with Trump, me and Mickey, hold on, yeah, go ahead. From nineties, said Bob Junkie, what you're doing?

Come on yo? We had huntred dirty seconds between what yet, second and fifth come through. We interviewed h class and you gotta relax. That's it. Let the record, real quick, real quick, every and rock Camp all perform at the Bird time at twenty years. Got the problems we got we had tickets, We had tickets two years ago. Tickets. Let's second, I'm sorry, no, no, it's good. So what we do is what we call a random real quick So every b and rock Camp. So I'm gonna call

a random real quick. So Eric B and rock Camp my first music video ever. I was an extra for a rock Camp video and I got more shots than any other extra histories. Don't sweat the technique. I'm playing up right, bag, I'm gonna hold your bunny man. I told y'all keep talking. Yeah, so not do you know we said hip hop junkie? I do you know? Uh picture, But we gotta go back to Donald Trump. Yeah, this is a deep pick. He said that because fam was saying like when he probably saw that. So now look

this is like Donald Trump, ain't the president. Everybody's chilling. Donald Trump book us for a show. We show up, We're at the Caesar. I called my man, sweet Mickey, and I'm like, yo, Mickey, we're out here with Trump. Come on over the president and he's just chilling. He's like, my friend, you know what I mean? So, Yo, we're down here, come so now and years later, right, because all I could do is tell y'all because there, but all I could do is all all I could do

is tell y'all. Right, all I could go is by facts checks. Right, I'm gonna get you all the facts man. The fact is, at the end of the day, coming from where I came from, if somebody gave me a check to perform, right, and they actually wrote the check right at the time. At the time and the check Claire. At the time, I was like, this person is a

business then. But dude, when you sit on the presidential chair, that's a whole another scheme now because you're representing the world and you representing like, you can't be for one side of this, it don't exist. You gotta be for the whole America, you feel me. So it's a different game. Yeah, so so so on that note, what ended up happening is, um, I ran right when I ran for president, I ran, But all y'all did was see me run. What y'all

didn't see was the backstory. There's a documentary called The Ghosts of Seat there so late. So now that I look at it again from the top, y'all see that. It is brought by y'all by Sock Posity Films. Sock Posity Films is one of my film companies, right. So I only tell you all that because at the end of the day, I wanted to show out in America or all of the kids that was here, how dudes was getting down in Haiti, and how hip hop music influenced Haiti. Right, so you have so at the end

of the day, y'all saw me run for president. But what they didn't show y'all is when they have beef with the gangs. I had to go negotiate for the gangs. These are rappers. I'm talking about the gangs. The general I'm talking about. I said, I sit with the gunmen. Why cleft sit with the gunmen hand to hand. I let's have a conversation because at the end of the day, I can't let my people suffer. So at the end of the day, you have to figure this out because

the youth of tomorrow got to advanced. So how are we gonna do this? I get a note, a list of what their demands are. I take this list to Washington, d C. The U n is listening. I was the one who negotiated the truths with the gangs. This is me. But y'all don't see none of this yet. Then I fly back to my country. This is cleft. Then I fly back to Washington. Right, anybody who's watching this, it

ain't hard. You could google this I'm I'm in front of Congress and I'm talking about Look, y'all need to get a bill passed. It's called a text stile bill. This bill help brought back textile and manufacturer of my country. While I'm doing all of this, y'all don't see any of this. This ain't promoted. The only thing y'all saw was why Clefs j'on yell a Haiti scandal? Why Clefs Jon run for president? Right? The only thing is this, I'm a Garvyite. This is the part of me that

people don't know. I'm a Marcus Garveyite. And what that means is at the end of the day, Yeah, nig can see me run. But who told me to run? What made me think I could run? No one know. I sat with Nelson, Mandela, Me and Mandela. We had the conversation. I like, we're having this conversation. I had a few questions for Mandela. Was only three people in the room, Me, Mandela, and my cousin Jerry Wonder So so for me, this was important information. After that, I

flew and sat with Harry Bella Fonte. I spoke to Harry. Harry told me this is how they're gonna get you, and this is what's gonna happen to you. And if you're able to handle this, you're gonna be okay. So at the end of the day, now I run for president of my country. And then they said I gotta be in the country five years, right, But this right, they told you the legibility is five years. But if I ask anyone who's listening right now, what the hell

does the Haitian constitution say? Nobody knows. So you call that Western propaganda. So it's propaganda that that's given on the other side to fool you over on this side, because on this side we come here, we study black history. We know who our fore fathers. Well, we know who George Washington is. But if I tell somebody, yo, who's two sons overture? Who's on it? So how would you come up with a law and tell me I gotta live in the country for five years when I already

had a diplomatic passport. So why didn't contest it? Why did not raise my finger? And I'm not no ordinary dude. I bought Minister Fari Carna Haiti. This ain't no ordinary guys, who's speaking to you? At the end of the day Bill Clinton, who's listening to the show right now. I'm getting off for Air Force one. I'm getting off for Air Force one with Bill Clinton as a youngster, So I'm not no ordinary dude. At the end of the day,

though they had to block me. The reason why they blocked me is because they didn't see me as a capitalist, even though I am a capitalist. They saw me as a populist, somebody that's going to be for the people. You know what I'm saying to you. So that's the bottom line, and that's how I went down. But look, at the end of the day, I could have raised my pinky and the country would have turned red. I didn't do that because I didn't want the youth to fight over me, because at the end of the day

was bigger than me. It was about Haiti. So we helped get Sweet Mickey elected. So my party, my party back was my party. It was it was it was, it was. It was Sweet Mickey, Michelle, Michelle Martin Lli. So at the end of the day, that crew raised me to a point, so I backed him up and at the end of the day we all got together. He became the president. After him, it's another president that's young. All I wanted to do. My job is accomplished what I wanted to do. Before I ran, we had an

old regime dog. Everything was over sixty five, seventy years old. There was controlling the country, that was controlling for country for over seventy eight years. I broke the cycle and that was the mission that I wanted to do. So what cleft. I know, I know because I know you so many years, and I know you'd be for being riched for every year. And then these people they say wild cleft, took from that, and I said, not wild cleft,

and take from ship. This is me defending you from the outside looking at because I know you, I know your personal lifestyle and how many years I said, what whatever they said that they said stole from this campaign? How what was I like, said they totally got it wrong, and then going off and I said it on the podcast. But I just want, I just want you to shut all the hats down. Plea. Well, I think I think, first of all, it's an insult to say I stowed

sixteen First of all, it's an insult. First of all, it's an insult to say that I would still sixteen million right at least say I would still one billion. This is a complete insult because sixty million it would equal to the artwork and a few cars in the girl. That's right, right, Sometimes you got to feel I've been I don't think you know. Yeah, but at the end of the day, they'll think about this though, anyone who's really paying attention, like what part of the history you

want to know? Mean j Edgar Hoover set up the FBI for what. Look, Marcus Garvey was infiltrated. They came in and said everything they said I did. They said Marcus Garvey did. At the time, Marcus Garvey people wasn't that strong. Marcus Garvey got deported and Obama just pardon Marcus Garvey. I'll even give you something crazier. Think about the N double A C P. Martin Luther King. They said Martin Luther King was stealing personal funds to basically

take care of his family. Then they had to retract the story. My question for y'all is when they're telling y'all white cleft stowed and then yeah, yeah, but at the same time, right, let me take it to a level of legislation because we smart people. So if you basically says, I took something. I'm gonna have my CEO now write a piece of paper which is a rebuttal to show where all of the money went. Why nobody printed that up when we did the rebuttal? Why didn't

y'all print up the rebuttal? Because at the end of the day, it's real simple. Long before I was born, it was set up that NGOs would come to my country. And when they can't make no money nowhere else, you know, what I mean to do with a local job would be making thirty dollars a month while my people is living on less than eight percent, you know. And I didn't want to start a charity. I started an NGO and NGO non governmental organization. We was moving like an organization.

This was a threat to everybody, including the Red Cross, including everyone else. And what's funny is I've worked with the Red Cross, I've worked with different people. But why is it if you google the Red Cross right now and say how many houses y'all put in Haiti, you're gonna see five houses. They've raised billions. But think about this, But about that didn't provide anything. But once again, why

Cleff Young was a patsy only different niggas. Cutn't gun me down, because to gun me down, you gotta get my people to gun me down. That's the only way it's gonna make sense. You did it to Malcolm X, so you would have to have my own when I'm in my country, gun me down. You can't justify that. Ain't nobody gunning me down where I come from. But I still want to know. Do you think the Pinn Foundation did the jobbing? No? I think that to your point that when I did the tour of the houses,

the model houses, and none of that was built. Once again, I think that a lot of the money that went to Haiti through the relief fund is a disaster. It's the same thing that happened, the same thing that happened. And happy, Yeah, sorry to cut you off, but can you just explain to the people because me personally, I know that you don't need it's me personally when they said you know I can have anything. I know you personally. I know how you ball, I know how you don't

need this money. I know that. But how do you like address these people who think that? Well, the first thing is anyone who thinks that you have to go with facts, right, So the only thing is, look, if you if I bring you to the well and you are a donkey, that mean you're gonna drink the water. But if you're a giraffe, I can't get mad at you. So those that at the end of the day, right, at the end of the day, I can't force people

to believe what they don't believe. Right, you feel me at the end of the day when I'm on Oprah and I tell you all the story on Oprah, when I sit on Oprah's couch, when I tell you all the story. Right, But once again, what is this another black man defending himself for right? Because at the end of the day, when you look at it, it's all a distraction for what And I'm gonna state it again on your show. Um. First of all, the idea of why Cleft winning a Grammy and putting his Haitian flag

around his back and establishing Haitian pride is cool? We wit you. After that, the idea of why Cleft trying to become president and set up a governmental organization where you're not gonna singing thing. It starts to change, right, And in this process you have to do what's called covert and dude, any everyone that's paying attention, this ain't conspiracy theory, this ain't the luminati. The bottom line too, it is in this room right here. As you do

what you do. If they feel like it's an infiltration, they will plant somebody the inside of this room. That's just the way that it works. So at the end of the day, it's so important. I'm so sorry. But now rock Cleft takes this job and he wins the presidency, will be first thing to do as president as president of Haiti, Well, the first thing that we would have to do as president of Haiti. You have a population that's living on less than eighty percent, right, is living

on less than a dollar day. So then you would have to establish what's the wealth right of the country. So then there's two parts of it. What's the richness? Human capital is one? What do that mean? Human capital? Human capital is important because whether if we're talking about Haiti, Philly, Compton, everywhere, you got a group of young men that are like Mason's they are workers, they can work Mexico, Mexico does. Human capital is one. The second part of it is

we call education, and education comes in different forms. I ain't talking about just putting up schools. I'm talking about putting up trade schools. And what is it that we have right? Everything is controlled from erin C. So at the end of the day, Haiti used to explore coffee. That's what we was known for, coffee and sugar. So at the end of the day, all of this we can What happens is if we come up with a trade policy and we got if we if we got duty free, we come up with a trade policy, then

we can work. So the whole thing is I would have to show you what Haiti is willing to trade for you to want to trade with me. It's like if you're on the block and I'm on the block. If you don't have nothing to trade, then ain't really nothing to talk about. So human capital and education is the most important thing. And how do we invest in education? When companies was coming into Haiti after the earthquake, this is what I ran because I said, anybody's coming on

corporate interests. Dude, you want to come in and you want to help, that's no problem. But dudes, we got tim Burrows here. Why don't you pretend universities and put these people to schools? Because when you leave after the earthquake, they actually gonna have a job and be able to do stuff. These are some of the things that one of these things I saw that that's the only thing I saw money go to police. So so, so what do you think that happened to haiti Um after? What

was it the earthquake to happen? Right? So the stating earthquatting? So what what do you think was the proper message with you would have took if you was the president? The problem is this, It's eighteen o four, right, eighteen o four, the Haitians get their independence. The first black rec gotta take you there, I gotta take you there to understand the route of the problem. Eighteen o four. Peep this guard eighteen o four. I gotta go on my five per cent um over please? I forgot okay,

why this eighteen o four? God? In eighteen o four, we basically was free. We defeated the Napoleon army. What that means the most mormous, the best army at the time that Haitians defeated them. They were outgunned. How was they able to do that? Right now, what happens is after the Haitians defeated the Napoleons. The French now put a tax on Haiti. This tax still till today is

hurting the Haiti and that's why Haiti people speaking. The reason why Haitians speak French is because Haiti was occupied. It was it was by it was by the French, but because they never agreed to be colonized, because they agreed to be free. Some people say Haiti got its independence too early. Some people say that because at the end of the day. So now when you say, damn, well, how do we get Haiti back. The way that we get Haiti back is to bring Haiti into the modern world.

And the way we bring Haiti into the modern world is through technology, is doing in capital and you got to invest. I'm gonna give you a last example how you bring Haiti back. You have something which is called agra bank, coony agra bank. So you use the soil. At the end of the day, we plant that's right through agriculture, whether if it's the d R, whether if it's Haiti, with it's Jamaica. Through agriculture, you're able to create an environment for people to work, make money and trade.

You know what I mean. Yo Haiti is beautiful, man, I'm telling it's beautiful and only got to be economically, and that's the that's the problem. It's one of the best. Like I went there as a non Haitian and it was beautiful people, beautiful landscape. And then they were telling us like we went into the mountains, that's where all the rich people live, and it is the only place

where the beach front is the poorest. But let me ask you something though, in California, isn't there a rich place of right, And then it's still proper, that's right, it's side property value. And then when we're go into Compton, certain places we see the difference, right, and then those boys in Compton can't really come to the beachfront property value, right. So in Haiti it's the same way. So you have places called d that's right. So then what is that

telling us? It's not really a Hadi thing. This is a this is a world thing. Whether we go to Brazil to the fulvelas, we're gonna see the same thing. So my thing is this, at the end of the day, if we want to have a real talking about like hold up, man, from now on, man, let's just be careful who we let the mayor be and let's be careful. We let the governor be, just be careful, like really really take that because daya Ones is going to really

care about your environment. Now wait, too political. Yeah, I probably need to get your baby. Get back. You gotta get the old batter. I got your man. You gotta me dark bros. Fine, I'm so sorry to ask you the question, Laura Hill. Baby, now your baby, that's what they told me about. I'm so sorry. What last? That's not sorry. All you can do is yeah, fake media right now, I'm sorry. Now your media, my friend. Look the stakes. Yeah yeah, and I'm with Nori your fel feeling.

Now I'm making this a salt sir, summer Colina. Yeah, the harder drinks. We're catching the fight and it's got to try. If I was president, don't find me Saturday, Mabby done some days that general right that the Monday by Eagles back to listen. He's very insious and thought. Then every day on my way to the airport, they stopped me because that's the smell something funny I in my backpack, I told Mr German Shepherd, I know stiff, no cocaine. I haven't been Shepherd. I don't need no

extra see no no Mr German show her. He was just yeah, but bitch locked me a bitch like I'm on, bitch, get the weather as I smoke my marrow, smoking my yeah, every show mayn't do with you. If I was dressing, I get elected on Friday, as I say, get on Saturday, heavy on Sunday. If I must preside, I'll be on Monday. You want to Wedsday. I was present Thursday's like you on Friday, Cliff on Saturday present, Yeah, I was presented. Wola takes class. I don't know if you know one class.

You've always been an inspiration to hood niggas because one thing everyone man because not one thing about class nigga's hood niggas. We made it and we made it and we knew he made it before and wat class for coming our studios and be like what's up? Don't I mean like you know, hey, so I used to eat dog. In my mind, I thought you said just hold it out, but listen up. That's the real why Cleff always he

never was scared of anywhere. He always came through. And this is the reason why the Fooji's work and how how are you on the Foojie's right now. Man. At the end of the day, it's all love. Like I said, everybody's forty something like what kind of beef they could be? Nobody shooting my mom, everybody problem, you know. I mean, we didn't stay right. So it's all good for me. Um. The energy is all positive. Like I said, when people talk about drama, man, you're talking about something that happened

twenty five years ago. I think everybody that went through their things and we are grown folks now, you know, So we do what we gotta do. Man, And listen, man, we gotta we gotta support. You know, I can at least wonderful Miami because so lit something talk about He's going to tell out, tell out, gonna wait your questions. I couldn't come. It's coming, just talking to tell you I can. It's running from mayor of South Beach. He

has been arrested seventeen times. I don't know. It's funny everything even that man, my own property on South Beach. Everything even listen, listen everything that jay Z E been talking about. Everything we've been talking about today. If you go to Miami, you be in the area and you don't vote for I Can Nelly just one day, even if you don't care for you to win or not. The thing about it is, this is the only black man that owned property on South Beach. He happened to

be from Left Frax City. But if he was from Flatbush, if he was from Booga Basement, and he's when Raves from a story and kid who in the South Bronx from one four seven of Gibra. He was from one fur seven. He was from wherever, Wisconsin. Another black man owning the business. So even if you don't live in Miami, this man is really running from me. Even though you got arrested seventeen times. Say that if you black people make somebody for the struggle. That's so we're gonna do.

You go out there support I canally and be more strip clubs. Yeah, sure, you can't say it, little wit, little a little win. That's the white class. Come on, let's know you're very Let's take something about class. Listen. Let me I can't see for two months at point, and then me and Poe was in the studio and then walk Club just came and play some ship. Leave what listen, I'll kill you that problem to take a piss. But come on, what are you bringing a pans? I

gotta take a piss. You take a picture show. He wanted to listen to the smooth sounds of white class. I'll take a piss. Let man, let's go. He whatever, check it out, because I'm gonna do this one for my homies. Gone judge it. The hammer thing coming home now, y'all from the dangerous zone. The devil pulled the card and he said, use one. I chose music, My homies chose ya. Some of my ballas chose the NBA because it's on the block. Mandy Gang Bang funeral role. Pol

is making all that changing, Yo. When my cousin got his worst check, I was playing Jimmy and tricks in the face. All I wanted to be was a rap starlight, and all he wanted to be was an Escobar Chapel Chapel November. He coming back. I was talking about my homies. Man, that's so abu or they will track here from the back. They hit the still like an hour. Boy, that's hitting on the bill. Welcome to the Rotten Apple, the city

of your Lights. No matter how they sign, they can't seal the nights because when the glue snock knock, just before your guests rid out at your chest. Then you go raise the cool nest. You better be with my tell reepack. They be back attacking the night. Like when you're up in the trap, you are bucking the bucking. You back in the middle of working. Somebody get fat. I'm gon do this. My homies gonna cut. I am a thing. Ain't coming home. Sorry. We all are from

the danger zone. That won't pull the car. Then he said, choose one and my only show. Yeah, some of my fathers chose the nb A because it's on the like many gang bang funeral pilots making all that chain. When my cousin got his first tech, I was playing Jimmy Hendrickson to this who all I wanted to be was a rock star and all he wanted to be was an escort by see a little house shot to ear a finny border the new house. You gotta do hazard. It sounds you know you gotta love dream, but it

stop chilling. See you kinda was off, He reaf Wait, little freeze, you gotta relax. You want to break to break the break? Now I get to wear this together. I know for a fact, this is the funniest interview walking left in my life. Baby Carnival, it's the dirt Carnival. It is the third Carnival right now, you know what I mean. Anybody who's a fan of Carnival one to y'all can hit up that pre order. And we also got two new joints, once called Fellow Coultie and the

others called what Happened to Love? What Happened to Leave You? We take it to the barber skill for the what's the group that is not listen to do it for got you show, We just say fellow, Yeah, Fellow's the fellows here because five I can't. I can't said great education. I'm just throwing out, dude, not even that amazing. I'm here, Yeah, I can't. I can't relieve anybody love me. I'm sorry. Sorry for the people who love me. I gotta relax. Yeah no, women say so take it more shot. You

want to out Listen, listen walk lot. You got one of those shops because I got you. I needed the class, my class I need, I need, I need it right here for the woman. Okay, because because the woman, the woman fucking me. They'd be like you, but we don't really believe you. Come on, make ready for me for the one I'm gonna do a whole duff place. Let's do it right now. It's Normy Duck play man official. Now what's the dumb play j So you take a good record of your step wife. Listen. I want you

to know, girl, Normy loves you little my wife. I love my wife, Barry and no man, now I ta w bar only to you. How wouldn't we feel my tears last to tell the police. I ain't home tonight, not tonight tonight. I sit around with you. Look into your eyes. You work the sad blue. Yeah, keep and this is I love my life. It's the money. I was troll. I trong. Come on, let's go, come on around. I tru around. So it's fiscing my soul. So don't one little getting cold? He said he's got one. Ye.

Guess what's that one? You're crazy gonna relax? Got ye? Do you you you gotta? Yeah? First off, there's a there's a very ball, but it's a very secret with me and pun where we we we actually escaped from where Fat Joe, Puff Daddy and all these people was recording and the only person that was in the other students Cabbian, it was me pun and white class clubs coming in and be like, damn Caribbean connection, he said,

coming to the check us every night. But the thing about it, it was, if I could take anything else back from my career, that part I would never change because he stood in in He was the bigger man. What I mean, you know big in Jamaican, big big he was. He could have been like but he came and he said, yeah, what's up? And that's what you did. Caribbean connections. It was the same brought the studio though, that's the kind of punning away. And then they said,

you know, you know why clip on that ship? I said, damn, that's that's that's difference. Don't work there. He actually watered And you know what why I want to beat you up because I beat you up behind your face and you know, um, that's great beat you up behind your face, but I want to beat you up to your face. Yeah, And I want to say that, you know, hip hop is the thing that we should continue to do. This what I'm doing right now and saying that we love

you for contributing what you did to hip hop. Fucking continuously slyly staying because you because it's gonna be honest. If I was I never came back. Now I realized what you did. But back then I would have been like that niggasna say Clap never came back. I would said, man, that's it's twenty years later about Clapp and I'm sitting back and I'm actually representing the culture of bomb mistake. But I'm representing the culture. So I'm gonna hold that down.

It's not dn D. This is the new DND. Look at that ship, Look at this. It's more. Actually, you can't go to the breakfast club do this. You can't go seven years, you can't go anywhere else in the world and do what we're doing right now. This is all my president. And the thing about this is just the thing about this is let's not ever lose the journey of what we're doing. What we're doing is big en up our artists and today while Clap it's and

I can't believe because you're blacking than me. Yeah I'm him. Yeah, I'm so black. I'm like a coin. We're blue love. But you're also more Spanish than me. That's that makes you advocated. But that's a beautiful Listen, calm down, everybody, come this. What makes it beautiful is that we're both on the same element. I'm Porter Weekend, I'm black You Haitian and Haitian and that's all sack down, double double Haitian stick no live. I've been a couple of year joints.

I don't know that everybody's ship. But I tell you my wife is a big fan this ship. Let your wife listen. I don't know, not in that way anyway, it's just listen. I don't know because, like like he said, amaz if y'all won't pay attention, he's a strategist. So he saw two hundred and fifty episodes. This man destroyed everybody that came. I love. I loved a lot of episodes. This ship. It's the best ship. We got a little body, yo,

check it out right. So you know, um, when I say like big pump forever, like that's not just in words. You feel me. So I think like a lot of times, um, because we have the musicality. They forget that, you know, we words Smith's you know what I mean and appreciate it. And we appreciate that. So definitely so I leave y'all eye with something like bars. Well you want bars with guitars, guitars? Stick it out. You can feel some gars over guitars. Peter big Fun love me my man. Who it's some

bars over guitars. Yeah, I keep it hot, nor he got me a little honest. Yeah, bro, this is how I do this. I came here sipping on some guinness. Listen. My life started out in a small village. I ate dirt from the floor on me. No kitten, I ain't had no kitchen, Grandma said, pray to Christ this Jesus. Baby Belly had a bag of rice. My life started out. I was belly to pop a flute to the States, searching for the golden goose. No work papers, officers rating

the underground, they try to get him. Boy took off like a greyhound his life. He got hunted like a groundhog, sting operation in the legal allien in New y'all. But like the King, My daddy had a dream, and years later I was sitting up in Brooklyn. What if Martin Luther state in the room, never stepped foot in the balcony. What if they had a bulletproof call instead of a drop toop for Kennedy. Malcolm xaid the speech, what if I had amongst the congregation, so when the boys can

get your has in my pocket? Of five shots to the assassin, Listen, ain't nothing knowing to the son. What if I have put blanket Marvin Gaye's father's gun. What if y'all knew the truth before sending your kids to war? I told y'all that Manny cared about Iraq, you cared about the oil. Now, what if I could go back in time? I love race, not eleven. Dip to the Bahamas and Putaliah's luggage in the seven forty seven, put all the Papa Rozzi and the slammer, so that way,

that night they would have never chased Princess Diana. Listen, man, The ahtands for alpha and omega. The B stands for barrier. That's what I'm knowing to do. The rappers see stands for chance. Once you take it, guard your ship. D f hic squad nigger read my lips h general from a d make my day. I stood in my chas in front of that k and for me to take

an l it's gonna take amen. What's that Mother nature with the strong winds and all my piece productions like the queue as in Quincy when he did that thriller Michael Jackson Blue and this is who we all STU abbreviation for the studio are killing in the booth in the v Be very careful when you're watching shot as the w could turn up. Am. That's murder for higher by the window like X. Don't ask why I ain't taking no seats because the clans outside wild cleft from

with my nigga noriy trust me freestyle. You don't wanna say that, sweet, because I'll be fun to November. I'll be gone to November. Tell my girl, I'll be gone to November. I've been going to November. I've been gone to November. You're tell loss as I've been gone to November. January, February, March, bro man, I see you're crying, but girl, I can't stay have it going to November. I've been gone to no Remember Carnival three pre artists. You already damn Carnival.

My god, quick, where we get out of here, because this is in a sense like Haitian episode. I want to so the people I'm in Haiti shout to buddy. I shout out to everybody out there. Man, I thank y'all for for receiving us well over them, I thank baby. Okay, we don't get it, don't We don't get enough, So tell him Carnival. Carnival three man. This is what happened. Was the nephews meet the uncles. You know what I mean.

It's nineteen ninety seven meets seventeen. We put the sonics together and you're gonna get all that live instrumentation that y'all love against the trap sonics. What happens when we put that together, it's called the Carnival. Of course, we got English on the record. Of course we got Spanish is naturally from Haiti. We got a bit of French on the record, a bit of crayoon um. It's hard hip hop influence and at the same time, what is

hip hop is the culture. So I never got caught up in the bag of saying it has to sign a certain way hip hop as if we could move the world, and that's what we do. So Quincy Jones taught me a word. I'll give it to you. The ship is called Global Gumbo, my niggas. Beside of September baby September, but the pre Ortist is up. Now we have now I need to know that ship. So Quincy Jones, Yeah, that's my man. Feel me like big god, I feel

like my life is something. But he met for like the day, so one degree of separation and then I left. That was like, Yo, noriy man, I really hope you know how you influence the culture, man, Like it's important. I mean, you talk about me, but it's just important, Like so the world understand like people like why Cleft, you know, people like Puffy, people like jay Z, people like nas. I'm just saying, like nor You're grind from the get go, fat Joe pun Um. It's important because

you you would be that guy in that room. But you know what I mean, like what you're doing today was obvious, Like you would be a leader. So it would be great, you know to see people like Tupac. He would have transformed to that spot. You know, like you're straight up You're straight up a leader. Dog. We back you up one and I can't after this, It's downhill from here with every other show in the world. You oh my god, just flying shot, just listen us.

Why Tripper don't like that? For the graph relaxed. No, he's gonna take the stream. I'm gonna been ship. I don't think like I said, I don't fucking come only ships you do. But I'm playing without me. I love you. I wish I could be everybody. I can't afford it. But listen what I'm saying. What you do, it's what you do you ain't. I'm a fucking imitating nobody else. And this is why your ship is so successful. This is why who you are who you are. You may

paris cheer. We got one thing, Mrs why crazy stop bro what you want to know about the Fuji's baby? But love we already you know we we we we all about you know what I mean? The Fuji is Yeah, I don't get job. Tell me you get too. Don't listen to say something? Yea they all ya. Who's who's got as rapper in here? Right now? Somebody take a picture where to day games you need? You know, really really at a big dry wait to take right wrist blood.

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