Episode 7 w/ 2Chainz

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This is um very great interview for us because guys very relevant to the times is happening right now. Right back to the South and this is the first South only second well no, but it's first South only because so uh, I'm proud of this episode. I knew the guy since he was Titty Boy, knew the guy even before that. And um, but before we get to the two change episode, I wanted to recap real quick the other two episodes that we didn't get a chance to

recap Cares one first. Um, I know a lot of people are giving him backlash for what transpired, and what people need to know is like I felt, explain it a little bit for people. Well, you know, I asked Caress the question and he answered it, but it wasn't the answer that people wanted about the band body thing, you know what I'm saying. And in all due respect to care Rests one, I can't blame it on the

alcohol or anything like that. I kind of changed the subject, you know what I'm saying because the subject got uncomfortable for me. I felt, I feel like everybody else feels like, Um, we wanted, we wanted a better answer, you know what I'm saying. We didn't get the better answer, and I didn't want to sit there and just you know, keep talking about this. You know what I'm saying. I love care Arrests, you know what I'm saying. So I just

wanted to move on, you know what I mean. So I gotta give him his prost because it wasn't You know, we're in control of these interviews, you know what I'm saying. I'm an expert in changing the subject when we don't want to uh dwell on something. So I just want people to know that, you know, in his respect, you know what I mean. And everybody knows. The fans listeners know we cut people off right and we're not political one but this is like yeah, so um, with that

being said, also, I want to touch you. On the myth Bleak episode, I thought, um, it got great responses, and you know what I'm saying, Dame Dash. Uh, shout to Dame Dash. He's sending me some whiskey. He's sending me some resling as well. Doest go popping and what's going on? We need you on the show, Deely. We need somebody from dip set. Uh. The closest one that I feel like I can reach um is Jim Jones. So if you guys are out there, hit up Jim Jones and let him know the drink chick he was

already down. Yeah, he's already down. But you know, I like the people like um, I like people to like to feel like it's not it's not just us who wants you more. This is a public show. This is you know what I mean, It's a public show. And then the big announcement now is trying to pop the bottle suddenly, come on, get your life together, a big announcement. People have been asking me. People been asking me. They've been saying, what the funk are you doing with this

food show? What's going on this goddamn food show? Did you? Did you? Did you? Did you come? Let's keep the grun broll going. Did you? Did you? Did you? Did you? Stare us the wrong way? And are did you tell us as a food show that it doesn't exist? When I am proud to announce if you follow me on Instagram, you seem to be posted House of Magnia, my god chef Teach, and I am proud to announce that the pilot has been shot. And it's the first time I'm

ever announcing this ever anywhere publicly. It is what MTV to makes the nose if you, if you're a fan or what I've been promoting about the drink excuse me, drink the food show. I need you to hit up MTV, tell them thank you, but tell them the MTV to excuse me, let me be but what is that called Pacific or Pacific specific, Spacific specific specific, mtvcific? What's solo? Everybody? Congratulations?

Please to hit empt every day on that Twitter, on that Instagram, tell them you want to see now we want to run eating or on the run eating, We've got what we actually call them, and we filmed the actual pilot. I want to think you guys for not only being there helping out participating, has has birthday has just passed? Correct birthday, birthday, birthday, So please everybody hit up MTV two. Let him know how important it is to see the drink champs on that food show. We

filmed the first pilot in Miami. We had a ball. We're gonna pick up all the restaurants. We don't. We don't want to pick it up now because then you'll be thinking, uh by the time you see it, like, oh, that's so so we're gonna pick up the restaurants there. But MTV two, we want to thank you for that opportunity,

you know what I mean. And it's going down and that's just the fans like the show like they like the show right now that they're gonna love the TV show because we're just doing you forgot you would do the TV show. So we're gonna get into this two change episode again. Fans man, we appreciate you so much. Hit up MTV two let them know that you want to see uh now we want to run eat all the where eating with and r E and the Drink Champs.

Also hit up Jim Jones. We want Jim Jones a part of the show and we spoke about care so I guess let's get into this two. Also hit up at play it and CBS Radio. Subscribe on iTunes, review us, rate us, let people know you enjoy the show man, that's right. I love the feedback at Drink Champs. That's right man, So let's we're gonna get into two chains. He was leaned out. It had a great first time I've seen lean like. I guess he knew it was the Drink Champs and he said, many gonna give the lead.

I was trying to get take shots everything. It didn't work out. To see you never could let a guy who's not a champagne guy poured a champagne because they poured like that. You gotta pour it like you in fonts. So let's get it to this two change episode faults. Let's do it. Welcome to play, a new podcast network featuring radio and TV personalities talking business, sports, tech, entertainment,

and more. Play it at play dot It. We're back to Drink Champs Radio with Rapper and R and d J e fn Hey hand saying green, I hope your savings your boy and R d j e f N and this Drink Chap motherfucking podcast. And I Got. I don't know if he's ever been called this. I got who I think is the new King of the South. He's been so consecutive. He's been staying in your face. He's been stopping you on features, he's been stomping you. He's the only person that figured out did we've been

spending so much money on Christmas? He figured out how to get rich for Christmas. No, motherfucking my friend. I know him since he had a different name, but I'm calling him I call I don't call him that in his face, don't call him in space. The new King of the South. To me, that's my personal opinion. Motherfucking to change in the middle of to change. Man. I'm so honored to have you in the building. I knew you for years. Man, you never changed on me. We

always kept it tight, you kept it real. But how did you figure out how to get rich off of Christmas? Uh? CEO talk Yeah, just CEO the CEO. Well, you know, I had a lot of swings and mrs and UM in the past as far as merchandise and trying to capitalize of merchandise and capitalize off my success and merchandise at the same time. UM. I created a bunch of different UM T shirts, tried to testimony online, testimony with

people's opinion. One of my best selling T shirts was the ones that had the two chains on them that other brands and people started using. That was a promo, yeah, but it was it was my idea to over time. I always had this idea of having to crazy yeah and bootleg and then fashion fashion people started using, changing their clothes and everything. So a lot of times with me, I shot away from something that I want to say I started, but some of the things that I maybe

you know, started back up or or began. I kind of like I don't want people to you know, because today it will make it seem like you're biting, and it makes it seems like you you took this out and they flip it on you. I'm starting to see Forcade and all these different things. Sam, I ever hit you off for publishing Na Na Santa Santa didn't? He could?

He should it because I ran up. I ran up some fans on because because technically nobody owns Santa though, right right right, that was that was perfectly Just think about it. Can you trade mark Santa Claus? Because think about it like it's a holiday. Nobody owns the holiday, and you figured that out. Put them chains on, some ugly sweaters, incorporated that damn movement with the sound to me, ran up a couple of ms and he was doing pop up shops with it, all types of things, right yeah,

I mean that's the culture right now. You have to ride the wave a lot of times with artists, UM, A lot of times with artists and people that's been the game so long. They want to stay on what they are, like, this is what it is, even though it worked for them before. And with me, I keep the youth around, um. I surround myself with new creative vibes. And you gotta know, that the like urgency and impulses is in style right now, like like tomorrow or right tonight.

Doing something so urgent is what's going on with kids because they're their attention span is so so so short. You have to be able to entertain them. You know, within a sixth second or seconds. Have you learned the window like pull back when you see like okay, it's over those six seconds? Um for me, for any artists right now, m with with the short attention span of a fan base, you have to consistently do stuff so you can't really pull back. Once you pull back, somebody

can easily slide in that space because they're wise. Like if you see like something like what not merch merchants something that you have to learn. It's education. Like people think you just come up with a successful thing. You have to really read, You have to study the game, and then you have to capitalize of them. You have to, Um, you have to just when you come up with these ideas like people have. I don't think people follow through

with their ideas. And with me, once you get a team that's put together and everybody knows their role and with Lane they're gonna run and me being the point guard being able to throw throw at the loops and and catch the dunk at the same time. But being a team player, it's easy to get ship done and you deal with all the way going back to manufacturing.

Do you deal with that out everything? And I'm so hands on it don't make because I managed a band, a group that signed to Strange Music Tech nine and their merch game is but now And that's somebody that I learned from earlier. You heard about what he was doing with factories and warehouses and help allowing up his merch and he was somebody that never really threw it in your face. And that's kind of how I'm moving about with my brands, right. And then how did you

come up with the CEO? Or Yes, CEO was another thing that I felt like was very urgent, you know what I'm saying, God that sent me this idea because um, after Dad and sound, I was like, we don't have to do like a line for real, Like you know what I'm saying, Like, and that's that the name of the line. Yeah, it's CEO Millionaires. It means creating every opportunity, you know what. I like that. It's because even if people in turn put this on. It gives them a

sense of empowerment definitely, you know what I'm saying. I'm saying so I actually noticed the CEEO shirts and and I think the hats even before I knew you was affiliated with it. But once when I knew that was yours, I was like, he's thinking, because that's what we need in our communities is something that you you you can you can look forward to. You know what I'm saying.

So if you're a maintenance man and you put on the CEO oh shirt, you want to spit back and be like, well, that's how you fail for that day. So let's make some noise for that. Goddammit, every two change he's he's so smooth. We're gonna get them to open up. So let's take it back to the to the how did you first get in the game? This was a D D T P. You was a directing h Um. I was signed to Luda at first, disturbing the peace. I was signing them for roughly man probably

almost a dying probably almost ten years um. You know as titty boys. So to chains has more of a meaning besides me just wearing two chains. It means like this is a second chance. You know what I'm saying, one chain for who I am, the second chain for who I want to be, or you know what I'm saying, that kind of thing like that, But just coming in the game with Luda. He was from College Park, Southside,

you know what I'm saying where I'm from. He was a radio personality for people who don't really know his story. I was somebody, yeah, him and this guy named Poona who I was really cool with, from from l A. And he was in Atlanta like making noise, you know what I'm saying. I was somebody that was very popular through through sports and hustling. That's why I was popular.

And I wasn't someone that just went around and kind of wore a rapper on my sleeve, like like you know, earlier in the days, you knew a rapper was a rapper because he you know, he was closed backwards or you know, got the ciphers. Yeah he was. And I was someone that just was entertained by watching that, you know what I'm saying. And I never really knew that this was a skill set of mind. I just knew that I was meant to entertain people, you know, what

I'm saying. In my earlier days, like when I was you know, a basketball start, whatever you want to call it, any time I had the ball, I realized that's when everybody would would look at me. So I don't want to not have the ball. So it's the same concept with holding the microphone. I feel like any time I got the mic I got people's attention and I started kicking moves with Luda. Um he signed me. You know what I'm saying, I learned a lot. That's probably like

oh three or something like that. Oh I learned. I learned a lot from being on his wings, shokazoo on the whole camp. Know what I'm saying. His management was like a New York based guys where hip hop started. You know what I'm saying. They had a lot of knowledge, and I meant Nori like drew them along. Let me let me ask, um, So, what was the moment where you was like this is not gonna work and you stood on your own, Like was you confident in that

moment or because these guys were steaming hot? Yeah, and you stepped away? What was that? Well? Um, you know, I've always been highly confident in myself and my talents um um, and it was just something that I don't know, it's just it's just something that didn't feel. It didn't

feel right. Like I would come in clubs and and you know, if I came in with the whole crew, he would get a certain amount of attention and I would too because I had kind of like paid my dudes as far as paving the way for myself as far as being, you know what some man that was a legendary guy who who was out here really hustling bags or doing what people may yap about on albums,

like people know like I would. I would be on the road doing shows for bad boys and come back and pick up you know, I would go out, didn't make five hundreds or something thousand the show, but come back and pick up like twenty bands because I didn't left something that damnag. So like your first official like single on your own was I'm Riding Now and I'm Getting It. That really went national headline, Like how did that moment feel? Because for me, I knew about you.

I've been telling people about you forever, but that was like your first breakout single. I remember being in Atlanta in the Strip Club and its just coming on and everybody going crazy, Like, what was that moment? Was that the moment where you knew that you made the right decision. Well, I'm not gonna lie. Like when I did Duffle Back Boys, which was before that, that that gave me that feeling a lot of people received it. Well, Wange was the hardest dude in the world. He did the hook for nothing,

you know what I'm saying. He just did the hook because he was feeling, well, I was coming from other songs. He gave me a breakthrough. He gave me. It gave me that feeling. So although I was going on the road and that receiving a lot of money, I was receiving experience. I was learning how to do radio. I was learning how to do drops. Things that artist tape

for grantedy day, small stuff. You get artists at the radio stations never be there for two weeks during drop he did when they did the Duffel Bag, y'all did the intros for the djst Oh my god, I did like I was gonna because because at this time, you're so hungry, you want to get on so bad. Like a lot of times we get that little thing of success and we kind of be like, I don't have

to do that, you know what I'm saying. But it's it's it was important to do it because you still remember this, So I don't feel like it went in vain back then. I should be like, man, this don't even mean yeah. So you know that's always a sweet feeling,

you know what I'm saying. So when I got that successful Wayne with Deffel Bad Boys, I was able to actually go on tour with him and perform it in front of you know, arenas and so watching his work ethic, watching what he does, you know, on and off the stage, and owning the studio in Atlanta, not really taking advantage of the studio that I had. I was more or less using my studio for a trap than really working out of and then realizing that I can get more for a sixteen that I can get for it any

matter penitentiary chance you did. But that Wayne hook, how did that hook go? If I don't do nothing on my bad count on clock? That is arguably the greatest hip hop hook, and it's crazy in history like that hook was like that should change? I was like why? And it actually made me pay attention to Wayne more as well, because he was only on there for like eight bars and it was so how how how and and you and Wayne just maintained that relationship from then.

Is that when your first um uh connected. Well, we was actually cool before that, you know what I'm saying, Like I was actually cool before that. A lot of people anytime they came in to Atlanta, they had to hauler at me for different reasons. Um and then I built a lot of I built a great relationship with him when I went to New Orleans when I first met Stunner, I met STUNNERD first. I want to New Orleans and me and him started getting cool when I but, like I said, he really didn't know that I was

like a rapper. I wasn't kicking it like that. You know what I'm saying. I was more less around you know, and I have you know how we are some urgos. It is the best sign, I said, virgos is the best sign that nobody clapped for me. We got some good vibes. So people people rock with us. We loyal people once you get us on the team. You know what I'm saying, whether people rocking with you or not, you know what I'm saying, you my partner. You did what I'm saying. So that's how I kick it. I

can't wait for nobody to fun with you. That's when I'm gonna stay down with So that's what it is. I've been. I'm sorry, actually honestly, honestly, I'll tell every rapper who coming on this show, I said, this might not do nothing for them, but it does everything for for me as a podcaster. And then then what happens with this is these people go back and they pick

up your albums. How this is happening? I have no idea, but everybody who's actually been on the podcast albums is like charting again because they just love to sit down and hear this. And you and Wayne's relationship is like I could tell that that's real. Like not not to say that any of his other relationships wasn't, but I remember, like, he's supposed to do an album with H. T. Pain, He's supposed to do an album with you know you name him Duel, So you know what I'm saying, who else?

Um Drake? And then and it happened with you? How did that feel? Like? You know? Because I know that with somebody you looked up to and now like he's really I still do I still do. You know what I'm saying, This is like you know what I mean, he made me step it up. Uh, it was excuse me, Like I told him, it was a dream come It was a dream come true for me. You did what I'm saying, Like, everybody know he's up for echelon, he's top tier MCY in the game. Um, well he has

an album out or not. You know what I'm saying, I'm able to I'm lucky enough to hear compositions that some people haven't heard to let you know that he still has a very sharp sword. It was fun. And this came out on deaf Jam too. How did you pull that off? Because you know he's went through all this legal stuff and you still because yeah, it's on

Define because I thought it was a mixtape. And then well the universe the same thing, but they're still different, the same thing but the same you know, that's the same thing. Yeah, but technically they could, they could, they could, they could step in. I mean Universal owns the whole company, that's a fact. But that was just it was just how it was just how the stars was lined up because because Universal was really it's really the father, and

it's course they don't they don't haveing. It's the child to come up with this. The father. They have no problem with it because the person that was on half the composition what I'm saying, So it kind of was, it was still it was still certain dudes that had to be paid, but it wasn't ever a problem with this. Couldn't have come through fruition. Yeah, that's that's crazy though. Man, that's goddamn crazy. Man. Let's make some noise for a fucking to change floes at all. So that record, y'all

was battling. Yeah, like I felt like you was like showing off at that point. Was in the studio together. And see that's the thing that we have a lot of records that didn't make the album, but a lot of the stuff that that you hear, we were actually in the studio together. You know what I'm sending people have been a studio Wayne. You could be in there with him for weeks and not get a verse off.

When they're going to together. It's kind of like what you got to You gotta need beats, and I'll be like, what you got you know what I'm saying so for this particular song bounced that I think everybody should hear in the game because it adds something different to the game, and it's very fun and intriguing, and there's some bars in there. We just went back and forth. You know what I'm saying. I have a few of my friends in there. I'm like, I remember my chef was in there,

my engineer to change lossing on that. Yeah, I had to throw that cap in. I let y'all know what I'm saying. I'm living no beef, no pork. Yeah, I carried mind with me like strap. So with that being sad, right, you know your relationship closer with Wayne, and you also said that you met baby first, right, Like, how how does it feel like to be like you're not in the middle of it, but just to see, you know, discrepancies transpire. Um, I don't feel like I'm in the

middle own. I don't have feelings on it because I have a great I have a great report both both you know what I'm saying, or both gentlemen. Uh, I've always looked up looked up to starting like a mentor someone that was very educational with the street background. Same way where like hole. You know, somebody that kind of

got had the same little job on that resume. You dig what I'm saying, that has this so you know, and then I always looked up to Wayne for someone that created its own lane off off um work, ethic and precision and you know, you know what I'm saying, trying to be purpose. So for me, you know what I'm saying, I don't have an issue with you know, their relationship. You know what I'm saying. I just you know, for the most part, I cherished my relationship I got

with both the guys. You know what I'm saying, I really, I really do. You know what I'm saying. I'm happy to have known them for over a decade. You see the ups and the downs, all right, that makes a noise for that god damaged? So what what what what that being said? You got something? Yeah, I want to take it a little further back, but you was in the in the documentary that we just saw the organized noise? When were you? Now? Yeah, yeah, what what is that?

I mean? I noticed? I can't that I can think of any evident like collaborations with you and and and Dungeon family to that. But do well you haven't heard what what is happening is I'm working on another album and this is and I'm glad that so it was a good reason I'm here. So so I'm working on another album now. I enlisted like three or four producers who I wanted to curate my project. You did what I'm saying. And with my last album, I'm in my

ticket to to YEA dropped off a drive. And then because I just like his pre and post, like I like leaving somebody in hearing what he does that and then it's like some other guys that got like some other sauce, like my guy fk I, who I did watch out with. I love him, my homie See no who did Um. I'm on a new level for for Um and Organized Noise, who did some incredible things doing my upbringing in Atlantis. You did what I'm saying. So one day I called everybody to a studio to hear

my new album. You know what I'm sitting here, what I got on some same vibe that you would do. As far as calling everybody here and just really not even trying to wrap that day. We're just gonna talk about music. I just see, you know, and this is before colleague Grove. You know what I'm saying. This is just just me working on my next project, which is called BC, which is mean before Chains, which is basically to the Boy and the whole upbringing back when you

knew me type. So they come in. I got reco I got everybody says asleep, I got everybody else seeing in the documentary, and I'm rubbing my hands together like stunning them because I know I know I got something that don't nobody else got. I know that they're very educated. I know that they know what that you know what

I'm saying. I know they're a track record. And then they do this documentary and like everybody on, they bumping and you know, once again, like I said earlier, I don't want to seem like I'm biting, but I already got some stuff correcting with with Mr DJ and the whole campaign. You know what I'm saying. But like I look up the ceil, I look up man. Come on, three K is my favorite person in the world. Man

like it carries himself, how he does music. Everything about that heard you say about one day you was at one of your concerts and you see Andre three thousands just chilling in the crowd. This dude called uber something with a bunch of people was in the crowd. So I sent somebody to go get him. I said, this man in the right he goes, I'm saying, Oh, I just wanted to come to show you. I'm saying, you know you come back, Kim watch to show you know what I'm saying. So he was It's like he almost

didn't realize who he was. Man, you know what I'm saying. And like after he watched the show, he was he was just the fade of the way again back into the But you know that's that's what's beautiful about about you. You know, one thing is how big you got. You ain't afraid to still be a fan. Like I've seen you one time, like on a jay Z stage and you were snapchat and and today your manager we hit at tech right, it's been a technic thanks for helping out.

Check um right there. And you know what he says that you know, um two chain is going to perform, but he also want to see the show. And right that moment, I was like, that's why that man is gonna be around forever. Because when you get to a certain limit, a certain point in your life. Some people want to stop being fans. Like you ever hear nigga say you all I listened to is my ship, Like you're an idiot, Like you better listen to everything, like I listened to the new, the older, in between, the

super old. I listened to it all because you should be a uh you should be knowing what's going on in the world, and that that's what keeps you you know, tune, Man, I think that's that's something that should be applauded, that the fact is that you just came and performed for the biggest audience, but you actually want to stay there and sitting there and give it up to another artist. Man, this this Beyonce though you know what, I'm still it's like she's one of the best entertainers of our time.

We just lost one of the best in print, you know what I'm saying. So you can't let this go. You cannot realize that you're in the presence of greatness and not while they're still here when they go to passing away. You got all these pictures. You're gonna post story vibes. You're gonna post when the man was just walking up the day you did what I'm saying, So

I meant to giving people credit. You know, I do know what the same way being a fan of why knowing about you know what I'm saying, error and things like that. They're really cool to me as a Southern artist. They got substance or think about what I say. I'm

not like your average so you are you? You're a real hip like man man him like like when people like that started like like co signing me and not just co signing me, like honoring my my mindset, my deliveries, the things that I was saying from him to you, or to a Jada Kiss or to a Lloyd Banks, or to to anybody on these certain levels where they really a fab or anybody really care about their bars all they got to do or nas I can go on or hold or anybody else that's complimenting me on

some things. That's where I get my confidence from. It's not like I need a female you know what I'm saying. My money is good. It's these peers that I look up to and came up to and recognized. They tear up bars when they go to go to you know what I'm saying, boy, You know what I'm saying, I'm I'd be good be caring about the numbers and nothing after that, I'd be good, you know what I'm saying. So like I and another thing, Um, I've seen you on the Breakfast Club and what's your partner that just

passed away? A bank girl, Frank Fresh, and you spoke about that and you said in that interview, you said, um, you don't think about it. And that's that's one thing that I noticed about you. Like you you'll put you'll take pain and you'll just put it to the side. Like is that is that a plus? So that's a negative? No, That's something that I've been doing since probably like I've been doing that since I was young, Like having like this big ass smile with some dark stuff going on.

I noticed that's you know what I'm saying, that's that's one of my that's my defense mechan this, that's one of my like and and it takes like, um, when dealing with people, because I'm a psychology major. When dealing with people, all levels hold on smart rule. But he just put out as the blow by just now so definitely yea. But ahead when you were you're dealing with people of all fascists, like all of us have different power,

so to speak. They won't know. But I could run across fans that can recognize that this maybe a cover up, now I can. I could run into some people that that don't even get it. Right, man, this man got a smile concrete on his face. Then I could run across somebody to be like, you ain't feeling good today,

you know what I'm saying. So it's just it's just kind of how I moved with coming up in a single parent household and a low social economic status type of neighborhood and really not even understanding that you was in bad shape. You did what I'm saying because there's somebody down the street doing it works because because I remember, like the most I ever called you is um when your pops passed away. And the thing about that is I was my my pops passed away. I was in

the same exact situation as you. I was. I had a platinum album, I was on the road, I had they had just gave me. I had did a tour for five hundred thousand, right, this is those beautiful days, right, and they gave me two hundred and fifty thousand in advance and then they gave me like another one eight before I got on the plane or something something like that. And you know, I had took off. I paid for the funeral, win out and Chris Lidy came to me and was like, it's either two things we can do.

We can give back this money or we can go cash this money. And I had to go on the road like this is my father. You know what I'm saying, this is this was my hero. You know, other people in the hood had drug dealers. They looked I looked at my pops so and I knew what you was going through and I didn't care if I bothered you. I called you every single day and I made you remember that you still done with I was like, yo,

you know I got done with them with that. See, if you ever, if you've never lost a parent, ain't know, ain't you could tell me about you understand. I can't go for that because see, my dad, that's real ship. I feel you just email. You did what I'm saying, because my daddy, you do what I'm saying. Although, like I said, I'd be using them stories about a single parent mom and all that's you know what I'm saying,

like I remember going to UM. I remember going to prison and my daddy looking totally different than I remember him when he went in. I remember, just like I'm being different here, got a little gran and everything. I just remember looking different. I remember putting my hand up against the glass. I remember, but I remember still like I remember, it became like a like a um, like a fad to like this your father, like everybody like

you know man, you know what? And I never went through that fat like even though mine went around, I still wasn't like he's like for some reason, because I could find him if I wanted to, you know what I'm saying. And he always had some games and some gangster fun me. You know what I'm saying. He always had some games and some gangster from me. You know what I'm saying. So the last time he got out a prison and I picked him up personally, I pulled up I didn't even have him this much money. I

have an expedition and all that. I pull up down and Archie State Prison. So where I picked the man up, you know what I'm saying. I take me to get the rising Phone bank account, put nine thousand in it from and a couple other things. You did. What I'm saying, I moved the man with me and we started doing we was doing, and my daddy still had his hustle. He still when when he passed away, I found two

pounds money, all types of stuff. He still had two pounds of what we yeah yeahs with my partners see that. That was like I'm calling the studio that and I'm starting to put this stuff to go, you know what I'm saying. But now I found money and everything, and it's just like like I tell people with me, hustling is like hereditarist of Janette for me, like my daddy, really you know what I'm saying, droll cars off the truck,

you know what I'm saying. So when I'm riding and stuff with the plastic still on them and how you want to kick it, it's in my blood stream, you know what I'm saying. So when I lose somebody of that caliber, it's gonna affect me to a point where, like, you know, when I'm not doing that, I like to think,

you know what I'm saying. When I like to think, I go to you know what I'm saying, it's not I don't have like but you ever like you never like because the thing about it is with me, I had to deal with it face on, like I had to look at it and say because to me, I feel like you like kind of put it into the back and you just you don't really think about it. Am I right? Or now? I think about this, nigga. I think about bank roll all the time. I can hear bank roll voids. Fam Let me tell you something.

This is the thing with bank role is that I can't believe. And now I just can't believe it. I just remember to to I just can't believe it. It's just about the blow. I can't believe it. I just because we never saw each other every day. I talked every day anyway, So I just feel like I'm gonna see him again. I can't believe it. You know what I'm saying With my father, he was getting sick. It's a difference between a sporadic death and somebody that was sick.

You know what I'm saying. With somebody that's sick, kind of be like, man, I pray, hope it's gonna work. With some something that spread, you go to be like all right, boom and then fifteen minutes later, it's like, that's why you can't believe it, because you just was like all right, shorty, boom boo boom before you can get to the next spot. It's like, you can't believe. There's no way that happened like that. Where was you at when you got the call? Was you in Atlanta? Yeah?

I was in the level. I was in Atlanta. I was very close. You know what I'm saying. So so with me, it's a defense. It's a defense mechanism. You know, you gotta think like I did the best I could. I didn't like you, Okay, my album dropped the same day that bank passed. I couldn't be trying to put up go get this all this stuff. I had to try to build. But this is what I gotta do. I didn't know that. Yeah, my my album dropped. My

pops died two weeks later, something like that. Yeah, I believe when you came down to Melbourne, Flint, I remember he was mourning and Flint that was yeah. I lost my pops and Punt at that time, like seeing not Pun. I ain't never seen Pun sick like I used to be around Pun and he used to fall asleep on me right change. But he'd be like I used to think,

I like, damn, I'm boring this ship my story. I'm like, I didn't know Pun was sitting until like after he passed, and then I went and, um, you know, uh studied what that was like enough oxygen wasn't coming to his brain. But I was too young to understand that. So Pun was like bankroll, you know what I'm saying, Like it was just like suddenly, no, my pops. I had knew my pops at kidney failure. I knew even what he

was going through. So I related to you so much, not only being a virgo, but I just you know, I think that you're you're such a loyal person. You're such a like even you being here right now, even you being here right now, that's that's from me and you knowing each other from back then, but you ain't had to come so that that in itself shows how just loyal you are. And I just want you to just not to forget to take care to change. You know what I'm saying, take care of you because I

see you take it. Come on here, you're gonnait. You're gonna hear something like I was scared to offer you so down. Now, let's break down. Let's break down lean for the people who is drinking chlorox because some people are out here drinking chlorox change. They're not drinking Lean. They're drinking chlorox and mixed with U ni quail. Can you tell them the rail? How does this happen? All right? So they have like they have fake activists, like they

have fake everything. They got fake everything. And so I don't drink red green nothing like that. All I do is drink activists. So when they said they were gonna stop making activists way back when, now activist is pink. This is it's like, uh is the coding that changes at the point change and it changes the pink. Once once activists like once just to beber and a few are the artists of high caliber started getting caught with this kind of drink just to people activists, We did

not know that. Let's make some noise just to be you officially a nigga's goddamn it. Just to man, it was just it was just everybody. Every time you saw somebody, that's what they They started being something that they would post from Soldier Boy and a lot of other cats would post it online. So in my opinion, the company shut down and we gave a warning that we were

shutting down. When they gave that one, I didn't believe them, but I kind of did because the price went up and I thought people were just trying to So I bought a little extra and so I don't drink every day at all. You know what I'm saying. But today I'm in Miami is like, um, it was like a Beyonce tour. I had to perform for that. I had a video shoot with Little Wayne yesterday. I know, I gotta be geeked up to be around this nigga did what I'm saying, So I pulled out like some friend

twin he he came with factivists. Yeah, I don't coming with that. That was was It was factivist. It wasn't an activist we come with Come on that, twin, do speak on has Mike? What was that fake ship? You drinking? What's this ship? What's that? It called fake? There's different types of lean. What's called terrical? It's greed. I've never heard of that. I might ask you to step off in my never heard of that. I'm kiding like I love you even look you got two change with choking out. Listen,

time out twin. This is the lean guy. He's never heard of it. Pull on what you said, give us the room. That's not it right, that's what he's drinking is. This is promenthed zinging and code in. I don't know. It comes like to drink. It's very light, it's very sweet. So when people get on, they get addicted to the taste. It tastes good and then it gives you, I don't know, a different kind of body high. For me, I'm already laid back, so it it tensifies my laid back in

this so that you did what I'm saying. And it helps with anxiety, helps with pain relief and all of that. So back when I was taking it before I knew I needed it because I got assos and acid reflux and some other things. This is what they prescribe you from things of that nature. They describe you this right here, but they instead of doing this now they give you peel. So now I have from the same peoples that are from the doctor. But in order to get this here,

it's basically extinct. But I got a little spot, got a couple of things laying around the chains having that's a little yeah, because I've taken zenas before and it's like whoa, you know, just like I can't this drink is a little okay. So okay, how did you become a popular the land? Because it's a Houston thing. It's definitely start in Texas, you know, because we're in the South as well, man, and it became something that, um, it's a culture. Like with smoking, a lot of things

that make a smoke from a psychological perspective. My brother psychologist has to do with the actual smoke. It wasn't on smoke. A lot of us wouldn't give you know, when when smoke, it's just the fact that you have the exhale. You see, she can make circles, you can like the whole They see it over there. You know. It's like we was over here smoking and no one can see it. Kind of like we probably wouldn't do it because it's a psychologic did what I'm saying. So

it's the same thing with cups and drinking. You got these double cups. It represents the culture of you know, how many people got shipped Like every time sneaker is doing this ship with liquor in it. Now, you don't even supposed to drink liquor in ships. Drunk the white out this tra he had, he had a lean and patron and Henny, I said, this nigga is crazy that but yeah, and then like then you got peels or something that you take. They have to wait like me

and you take at the same time. We get ht at different times, and it's just peels is a little different for me anyway, everything else I'll be I'll try sometimes. So what you got, niggas, don't God, this is eight hundred of point, that's your five thou point. Now let's make the most expensive ship. Now that you're doing the most expensive ship with g Q. How did that happen? They came to me, man, they saw somebody would have

devil their personality. You know what I'm saying. They saw somebody with the right defin their That sounds like something Billy Dee Wi the set. It's like, I'm gonna use that word. Definitely continue. It's something that they came to me with. You know, we made it happen. It made sense, expensive, accessful, and hopefully we'll take it to the next level. We just shot the third season, so it's bigger GQ for seeing that because two chains of hood nigger like and

they got him sipping What was you doing? I just did, Yeah, Well, I've had a three hundred dollar hamburger, I've had facts. This is this is life I've had. I mean the stuff that I've done is they have the five thousand all toothbrush, they have the five thousand of the tooth, They have the Sunday I forgot much the Sunday cars they had, but they have like, you know, two million dollar cards. I mean, everything they have is like very over the top. And then for me, they introduced me

to the person then on their camera. I think that's why successful was like I don't know anything about the person. Sometimes they don't know anything about me, so it's like I come there. Like the last one of the episodes I did was like selling one of these commemorative paths for Kobe, you know, for like twenty five thousand. But you know they're gonna walk into the ring with a secure already, get a girl and a whole bunch of

cat with it, you know what I'm saying. But I wasn't going it was like a regular fitted cat, but it has some nice fabric. You know what I'm saying. Nice things going on, but you know, just me knowing that this hat, I though, I'm touching it and popping, and they like they want a quarter for it. Get your hat back, you know what I'm saying. So like the last episode I did, um was Colonel of Popcorn. It had gold on it and all of this. They want five. I was per per colonel for real, nothing

expensive movie. Get you like a hunter all the work, what I'm saying, work with them, more for them, more for them, more for them. A little bit and they come to a little three fives, little traps. You can get a one. You can get your one on, you know. So I'm kind of ate like a hunter dog. Work for them kicking it, but I'm gonna kick it with they're kicking it. Definitely said they're kicking it, bro Man.

Once again, that's one I wanted. Just admitted interview. But I want to thank you just just for being here and your energy. It's perfect. But I also want to bring up one thing, uh the c murder thing. You remember I called you? What did I say, man? He said, let that go? Said let that go first. People don't know that, but I wasn't gonna be a negative stuff because I don't want to kick the man while he

was down. But right before, I like posted this video about how I was like, not really gonna entertain that you had just you had just hitting me up like the chains don't do it and it's just man, you know, negative energy needs something negative to like cling on to let you know what I'm saying, and you could almost almost get me. But right now I'm like, man, I got like a beautiful family. You know what I was

worried about. I was worried about you, worried about the internet trolls, like so you know that when I called you, I was like, because I know C murder and murder. Have you ever met C Murder? Not well? I know that, I know I'm very well and I know you very well.

Y'all nigga would have been best friends. I'm just telling you, like so, so I was like I was when I seeing that, I was like, it was my duty, as I don't want to say O gun, but it was my duty like to change you too powerful because if he would have said, if you would have just said fuck that, you could have tweeted fuck that and the world would have just came, you know what I mean,

like down either on him or down on you. And it's and it's like we don't need you must need that he's in the position now, but I feel like he shouldn't. You see the energy in a way that's like negative, like like using this engine now for me being in the can. I knew where he was coming from because all he's saying is uh, you know, you know he ain't understand. Can't hear your story? You know what I'm saying. I was able to talk to the phone.

I was able talking about It's so many sides of the story because it's like all right, all right, you think I'm snacking off because see somebody of the album cover that I would never make. It was like when the album comes like if you follow me, I try to be creative. I don't know. And honestly, like the name of my TRU is the real university. The acronyms is TRU. But I'm like most men as far as

not want to explain myself to people. That's really like my thing that I'm still working with, Like I don't feel like like even today is like man, I want to do the consort. But then I got to really tell you're gonna take really I want to tell him, I want to see Beyonce. N said, Yo, it's nigger. Want to see my wife is there right now? Wife

to the concert. And it's like I'm trying to work with like trying to bounce that off, like still like this, like this is not being no loose loss of respect thing, you know what I'm saying. So I got him on the phone. I'm letting them know, like my tr you we buy homes for people in need, you know, So my TRU we get back to the community. My TRU does different things like this, My tr you don't my tear. You don't say I'm in camouflage. I have brothers that

do anything that's that's a connected. I haven't redone a composition from that eraror anything. It's literally just an acronym like true TV and ain't nobody mad at TV. I think what I'm saying, But you can choose to have any energy towards me, and then I can choose to fall into it. I can choose to try to curb it. So it was cool that you can in that way, you know what I'm saying, and I gotta understand that he an old press mind state. I gotta understand where

he comes from. So if you want to, I like, he like, I ain't never listened to the song, but that had went through my The quickest way to get me piped up is through my girl. You know what, like with any other black man, like we're cool, we go, you talk shi blah blah blah blah. Then my girl get involved. I got the fun and it's just like I'm I'm I'm my kids, girl, my mom, all them. They think I'm out mine because I don't know you

did what I'm saying. So that's what it was like, like damn, you know, it's like damn, so she gotta bring it to me, so now I gotta So. I didn't even listen to it because I felt like that

would be I never listened to one distract. Yeah, but that helps if you like, I know, like the first part came on like something like dicking the booty, and so my first thing, like me being uh having a sense of human I was like, fam, I haven't thought about booty all that, you know what I'm saying, So so this stuff gonna make me think about stuff that I'm not even thinking about today. I don't even need. And it was like um on the I g when it was just playing the beginning of Her So I

didn't go look up the song. Everybody else did and it was coming from like everybody else who wanted me to react. But it's like, what do you want me to do? Go to jail and do some a weight till he comes out like somebody that has a family, a life or whatever they do, you know what I'm saying.

Because I have friends and concentrated, I pray that the man gets enough opportunity to get out here on the street absolutely and be able to do because it's like, it's it's it's it's like our right to spread our wings, to be able to breathe this freshhair, to baby, to see here amongst man conversate and do we want to do? It's grown me and not be told, you know what I'm saying, so honestly, just to move on past this.

I wish nothing but the best for him and his family, and we're gonna make some noise to that a little. The craziest thing about it all was I seen c murder one time in in the Source Awards in l A. And we have machine guns because this is the time where these niggas wrong on everybody right. So I was just like funk that it ain't happening to us. So we somehow we had got some machine guns. So we thought we was ill. We went on c murder toll bus. We were like Nigga, We scrapped nigga. Like we showed

the nigga machine guys that nigga pulled out rightfuls. It's like, what are your niggas doing? We got rightfules and the nigga had a k and I was like, holy moly, moly. But when I did a video with you, to our video shoot, I came in to take a picture with you, y'all niggers had the same exact So I'm like you this this this is. That was God telling me these are the same people in quite different situations. But you should you you you have ability to come help out.

You know what I'm saying. So that's the reason why I called you, because you you you could have said one thing, and I'm telling you, the internet would have been crazy. I applaud you for being a grown man. I applaud you for uh, I don't want to say respecting your elders. But you know that's the first that as a person came They paid away for a lot of us down South. When they came in the door,

that's when we started having them arguments. Master peep better than no easy to be like the funk out, you know what I'm saying. But they would give us an argument because it wasn't that I don't think me understood like rhymes the skills said. It was more of like hustling. Them boys came in running it up so like you talked about Pete and they said something. Stuff wasn't even mixed. It was just just trip, you know what I'm saying. And it's like that they gave us something to argue about,

you know what I'm saying. As a p came man, he gave us something to look up to. Ice cream and hustles. You know, gold Chief Cardier's all white, you know what I'm saying. Riding nices brobably came in on the Kankster ship. You know what I'm saying. We had to. It's just like he put niggas on. You heard about what he did for niggas, so you know what I'm

saying like now I was. I was. I was proud of you how you had in this situation because some you would give somebody advice and some people would just say whatever and say fuck you nigga. You know what I'm saying. But you you understood that, and and and and and and and that is absolutely fantastic in my opinion. But as that happened to you though, because you were up beating a lot of these things. No, um, I

swear that was God. Like I didn't ask to go on his man as to a bus to see like the same as that guns and see murder at Like I didn't ask that I wouldn't there to take a picture, you know what I'm saying. But I felt the same exact that at that same exact moment when I walked on chains bus, I felt the same exact way when I walked on see murders bus. So when this incident occurred, I felt like that God had put me in that situation for that, you know what I mean? Because and

I don't know, I think I was right. Let's make some noise for me thinking I was like you was trying you any word, And let me just tell you like this was the time big up check again, man chech. I'm sorry, man, I was. I wouldn't so, I don't even remember that. I was trying to let let me tell you something to change you was so high at the moment, my nigger and I had a record and I was chasing it. I was chasing this record down,

and I was blowing up this man phone. I was blowing up your phone, and Change said, I got you right. This is the only wrapper ever in history. He said, nor yall feel you up. That's what I knew. I said, it's my friend right because listen, if you ever have a relationship with somebody over ten years and y'all don't have a little dispute, get away from that. Don't take That's what I told my pocket box may fake to change. You always just been there, man, tech man, I appreciate you, guys. Man,

you you've always just been there. But that's the first part the rapper that ever said, and I told him, I sayd y'all, I specialized in fighting tall new you know, and then he then I realized that that day on the court, you're actually not no fake play like that that that play when they show you on ESPN Duncan, like you're actually a real you could have been to the n b A. I'm not sure if if I've applied my work after the same work. When I realized

what it took to be a successful hoop. I mean, you know, rapper because it's it's doing it every day no matter how good you are, Like God gives us a talent like you were probably born a rapper. I wasn't born a rapper. I was just going to somebody to inspire and hustle. But when I learned, when I got the game, I did it to I passed niggas that God gave a talent to. You know what I'm saying, Like God, because because you got you got, you got Jordan Kobe, Lebron Okay. God gave all these niggas talent

and they worked on their game. That's what made them who they are now. God gave I can name three other niggas talent and some of them not even in the league or they're at the same level that they are the God gave. So with me, what you get is like what you get is like somebody like a Dennis Rodman who works on this game and and and becomes a valuable and not just that, but like a lot of like a lot of artists who find their nets and just keep doing it. Like with this rap.

I do it every single day. I do something every single day. I've been down here in three days. I've done like four songs. Geeked about all of them. I know him hard. I look at everybody in the room. I know niggas like I know him hard. Like no, I want to keep Yeah, I was doing something and tell us you like, can't we friends? Man, we gotta. I'm not to pick on first short like you don't want to get on something like real. When I have time,

I'm gonna mop your ship. Listen, I got I gotta, I gotta slave to change because listen, first off, I haven't thought about writing a verse. Not CBS. It's taking care of us, five say, taking care of us. I got a food show that I'm doing. If you're in town, I know you're rich and you're gonna fly out. But if you're in town Friday, we're having um doing my full show. It's what MTV is. The first time I announced it on this podcast. Um uh, it's like a

Anthony Bordain Man verse food, So you come out. We have drinks, advertise us. We have grilled octopus and ship like that. It's Friday. If you're still in town, I would love for you to come by and bug out and have fun on camera. Um. Yeah, so I'm into I'm into different things because I just feel like I'm thirty eight, right, and I'm I'm I'm a Santiago. But my maiden name, my mom's maiden name, is a Williams. Right.

You ask anybody named Williams, they got bad knees. If they named Williams and they black, they got bad knees. Telling you so, I can't be on stage at forty change, I can't be on stage. Just keep doing it, you know what I mean. That's why I came up with all these lines, you know lines. It's just about creating multiple streams of revenue for artists. I mean, I love being on stage because I love the attention. But it's

not nothing that I you don't want to do. Well, I'm gonna do it my whole life, but I gotta have I can't, but it's hand on it. I gotta have other streams coming. At some point, does it feel like the stripper that was in the same club for ten years. When you want stage, like I felt like that the other day. Like one day I was like, niggas, I'm gonna performing. Niggas is like, YO, do bloody money and I'm like, I do bloody money. The niggas do Super Doug and I'm like, hold on, is these niggas

doing money at me? Or so like they got requests like shake you know what I'm saying, Like I felt like that. We was in Russia, the university there was but it was too deep, so we had to do whatever the funk. They said, Let's make some noise being scared, but but let's keep it real. Like I like, you haven't. You haven't felt that feeling yet you're saying that where

you just know. Well. The thing with me is, I remember when it was only fifteen people there, and now you tell them, I don't can't fifteen and fifteen thousand get y'all the show. So if even if it Benjamin buttons and goes from fifteen hundred people thousands and go back and futeen again, I'm gonna still do the same thing because especially right now when you got the internet where somebody can record that show a few people in only record your body reaction, and that can lead to

other things like most expensive stuff. See what happens is a lot of people play off the energy of the actual people in the room. You have to really play the energy to these cameras right now because when they posted and all that stuff, and they don't know who he has a look behind him today, they don't know how many people behind him, so they don't know if it's nobody. If I'm like this is book, or if I'm like turned up because it's some beautiful strippers behind.

They don't know you did what I'm saying? Oh he knows when they posted and they see me and whatever is you know what I'm saying. So by me understanding that, I'm gonna get the people what they won't no matter what kind of energy I'm giving them, it's like I'm having my own party on stage. You're kind of crazy if you don't, If you don't get what's going on, because you had to like the most Buffardo bolivious, how

to use the Buffarto, how to use the Buffoto lawsuit? Ever, like the check comes fast stage, she wants to be there and snug in, snug In snug in like that was the like like that was like the dumbest lawsuit. Family told to leave, like you know, the cameras like what y'all soul is what y'all saw. But it was more footage than that, but just other stories that. Um, I got two daughters of my own, you know what I'm saying. So I'm very conscious of my female interaction period.

I have a higher respect for females and I'm not thirsty individual. I'm not trying to make nobody's book room or meal none of that stuff. Friends cool, whatever what I'm saying. This particular person was back there. I'm not sure who she was looking for. All our asked her to do was basically leave. Because girls that move by theirself anyway, I always feel like I'm not girls should have a friend. You can't just just be back here

right now, just you and you don't know nobody. It's just imagine right now, back here with all these men standing, what this Mendican is right here, but you don't know nobody in the rooms? Yeah, why was she back there? Dolo? I didn't understand what I'm saying, so it's like I don't want to and then it's like, I got a bunch of people up here from Atlanta. You know what, I'm saying that, no my situation, what's going on? So let's just get you please, let's get you out of here.

You know. She playing and wasting time and all of that. Ain't know, and it just became something that it kind of blew out of proportion, and she kind of, in my opinion, helped it go into proportion because I didn't. I didn't. Once I did what I did. Once whatever happened happened, I was done with it. She kept bringing it up. She's actually sewing again right now for what for the song? Yeah, for the song, don't worry you

don't gotta say she's I'm saying she's Ali again. She thinks I'm trying to put her head out on it. And it's likely even had that kind of ENERGYR time, like when I moved past something, moved past something, and I feel I feel sorry for because who ELP was looking at hearing this right now honestly, and the reason I have impressed the issues. I honestly, honestly feel like something is wrong with it. I looked at it in the eyes before, and that's just my personal pink. You

know what I'm saying. I've heard the same thing from people in her neighborhood, people in her community, but not just saying it like because where was this that? Where did that happen? That it was in North Carolina something. It's like, you know what I'm saying, not right. So that's why I can't be like stupid creep and whatever. I don't want to do that because I feel like something kind of wrong with Now. Let me ask you this being a Luta uh has something to do with

your beginning of your career. Lula's read, he moved on, He's done seven Fast and Furious movies, you know all this, But in the music sense, he's kind of lost his space. Would signing Luda be something you will be interested in? You? No, look as Luda won't do it. He's a very proper and he's a virgo too. He's going right the day before me. So that's kind of one of the things that made us click. But now he wouldn't he wouldn't

do that, you know what I'm saying. Um, and then Luda still one thing about Louda and one thing about this and you know it's when we catch our a few little shows and how I we can go. We can go get us some money anytime a loud loud I watched and I watched Himpion's with my homie Faith they do. He's constantly doing shows. So I think he's dope that he's became such a high caliber actor because this could be his other stream of revenue. That man

you were talking about. But you gotta know that like once once your you, it was the man, and then you go on, you do something else. When you come back to the game, you're not quite the same. But even even even when like your affiliation with Kanye, like you were hot, bubbling on your own. But to tell you the truth, Kanye stole your aura. What I mean by that is your energy was like sometimes a person energy could be so good that I don't like, I gotta do is stand next to you. I ain't gonna

do nothing else. Well I do is stand next to you and I take some of your aura. And you know what I mean? Dr Dre does it? For Roll does it? Kanye does it? If you're the hottest thing in the world, who did he did? He does it? If you're the hottest thing in the world. Sometimes I don't. You don't even gotta do a verse for me. You don't gotta do an interview. All that is coming to my studio and I can observe the positivity that's coming from you, and being that you don't think, you don't

think Little would just say, you know what changed? I don't that your executive producing. I heard you say it was A and R and I had you know, I'm gonna put this out here, and he knows it like I did it before I left them. I did um. I was supposed to be erin are in his last project, Little Verse or something just before I left. And so there's a couple of thousand left open and he'd be wanting his little money and stuff. There's a couple of thousands left over that he owes me I did the

job or not I was contractually bind to. It was a few thousand. They want to know big thousand. But as of right now, all my beach and is scrap. You know what I'm saying. It's it ain't merge. It ain't. But I got my front in and I seen you shool the other day. I see it, and I know they think like And then when I see like I'd be so like, damn, ain't see you so long, I forget to set. But now it's on my mother, it's

on my mind. It's a couple of thousands that it's whether because it's some beats that he did rap over that I set him when it was on the album or not. So yeah, I'm gonna need that a little bit. Let's I ain't gonna lie see Luda shock. What's the other, Jeff. I see all of them in Toronto All Star weekend, so we're eating in the same restaurant. I sent them to bottles. They sent me two bottles. I sent them two more bottles and the Rachel's said they are dimes,

no more. And you know, they're so rich. They should have just took their bottles and see me two more. But they stopped. Like you know, they are very they are setting their ways and they are cool. I was great to see him. Big up Saluda, big up to the whole staff, you know what I mean. But I think I think Luda should signed to you. You know, I know it was a question that I asked you, But I think he should sign because how dope was that when um Puff put on big and then and

then Big wrote for Puff and was gonna executive. It was gonna manage Puff. That moment that the hip hop for me was like, that's what it's all about. I put you on you know better than me, Let me help out. It was still so dope too. He needs the right record, not ludless though. I think I think that, um. I think that what you don't realize to change is, um,

you're actually a producer. But what I mean by that is once you have more than three or four hits, five hits, it doesn't matter, it's your voice actually helps the producer. You tell a producer what to do, and I think that you can do that. That's what Fat Joe has finally realized, is that he's a producer. Because see, people think producing is this, but it's not. It's turned out of that base. Put up that tremble. You know what I'm saying, Uh, put more on the horns. Make

you know what I'm saying. That's what producing is. And then when you have it, that's why you have so many like great producers. That was what a puff Daddy or what a dre or what a earth Guidi or what a shot money Excel And then these producers leave and then these duces, these producers are working on ups. It's because it's the chemistry which makes it work. So I want to applaud you for continue to do with your thing, doing your thing, and I think that you should.

I think Luda, if you're listening to this, I think you designed TRU right. I'm starting to rum right now. Listen, Luda is signed to the TRU. We started to rumor right now. We don't know if it's gonna become true. When we're starting to rum on Luda and you're gonna pick up Shanna too. You wanna pick up Shawna. You're

gonna solution sh um DTP have they run too? When I was around there when everybody that's I learned a lot families woun't really have nothing negative to say because I was around when you know, when SHINGI was very successful in doing numbers, and Bobby V and a few other cats that was, you know, doing things, and I learned everything from I learned everything from product placement to you know what I'm saying, certain deal structures and everything.

You know what I'm saying. So for me, I try to learn from each experience with a good of it, like you left them like um when you like, I hate when rappers leave a crew and then they be like, man, funk that cruel. That cruel. You didn't do that because we all still got the same phone number and that's yeah, and we're gonna see each other at the game. And I just want to applaud you for that, because I

hate when a person is down with EFL. I'm just using your example, calmed down and wrappers down with ef and and then they leave ef and and they're like, man, if he got great here in his beard and you know what I mean, like and it's like what you was with this guy for ten years. It's like if it didn't work out, it didn't work out like I did. I did a business deal with jay Z right, it was horrible. It doesn't make him a bad business man, doesn't make me a bad businessman, and make the situation

that we had bad. Other than that, everything stays the same, Like I ain't got nothing bad to say about him, and hopefully he ain't got another bad to say about me. I want him to call me, no more hold then't call me, leave me alone. I'm so scared of you, hope. But listen. So I was I want to applaud you because you was one of the dudes that actually stepped outside said you know what I'm gonna do me and you never actually shipping on them. I gotta make some

noise for that. Come on, why do you think because I'm sure you was frustrated because the reason why you left, Why do you think you never took that approach? Mm hmm. I think me knowing or me assuming that they think that I would do that will just drive them crazy enough.

Just now, you gotta listen to everything all the way through to see if it's a shot taken when you're not even on my mind right, So that was still like another psychological angle for me to just know that I'm not gonna say nothing, but you gotta listen to make sure that none of this has anything to do with you today. I still do that. I never I never have anything negative to say, but I know you just gotta make sure. It's just one of the things

where you know, I'm kind of a little lose. You're not sure where I'm mentally because you're not around, so you don't know like the family changed me or of this incident make me back whacko again. So he's like, you don't know what on my arm? And I kind of like that right well to chances. Let me just tell you, man, I call you the new King of the South. I don't know if you're gonna take that attribute now, Tia the King of the South. I respect tyr to I say, I said the new King, yeah

right now? And oh that said a lot of guys doing honestly coming from you, And I ain't mean to break you off. I appreciate that, fan. I remember I got some stories about me and your mother. Let's go, you're gonnambarrassing. I ain't gonna a lot, Oh like I ain't gonna a lot when I go to New York. You know what I say? He wanted the first New York Cats giving me some fucking with. And I always wanted some fun with from New York Cats because okay,

they gotta break down. That's hard. What is that like? Somebody? So you know what I'm saying, I link up with the boy in New York. Time be come kicking with him. You know what I'm saying. He got everybody muslining his whole crew. That lets you know too, Chain has been down for he'd been a continued he taking a million

out of Texas. Okay, so um, and so like, you know, I'm going around with him and it's like, at this particular time, at this particular time, I drunk, I called you know what I'm saying, And all I drunk at this particular time was hennessy, you know what I'm saying. And take don't even noticed something like he taking me to these little lobbies, you know what I'm saying, that the hotel lobbies in New York. He's a little bar and ship like this. So I don't even know. I'm not.

I'm trying to you know, he's trying to show me really this how you do. You don't have to stay here. You can come in here to trinks, you know what I'm saying. So I'm going to places and he's like these these people don't have hennessy. You know, I'm really like, you know what I'm saying, you need to try to you know what I'm saying, po grie. You know what I'm saying. I drink this ship. I don't drink at all.

When I drank, I drink peanut agreed. So he got me on this peanut greede your ship and you know what I'm saying. We go some whales and he telling me, you know about something Tiger Paul ship. I'm saying, I don't know about families hard calling. Get change some of that. I'm thinking. I said, you gotta have a vet, you gotta have a victim for you take. You just can't be on tier bone. Don't have nothing to sam. I'm changing. I don't give me this ship. You know what I'm saying.

I ain't got no vic on the list. You know what I'm saying. I gotta deal with this pressure. You did what I'm saying, and I started really I like, man, this crazy. You know what I'm saying. I went to the studio. You know what I'm saying. It was crazy for home, It was really crazy. For the studio. I was dol you know what I'm saying. And I would just want to get some of that that New York coach. But I just hung around them, guys. I was observing and Nori is the reason why I drink peanut grese peut.

I need a nor'all. I need something, come on hollo at me. But you change. That's what um A Maya about. You is. You're not afraid to step out your zone. Um what was that video you just had? Um? You shouting on Fort Lauderdale Beach. Oh yeah, I'm different, Yo, My dude, that ship and pitomized who you are. It's like you you different. You went to Fort Lauderdale Beach on a boat. It wasn't in the water that was hard.

I was sitting back, like, I'm just so proud of you because you know why, I've seen your grind and as much as I I saw it, I knew I didn't have the power to help as like a jay Z could help. Wall ludicant help. And you saw the

acts in the motherfucking tunnel and where you are. I always text you, and I know, I know you'd probably be proud of I mean, I know you'd probably be like, I'm tired of these texts, But I always be like, I'm proud of you, brother, Keep going because I want you to be the richest dude in the fucking world. I want you to be the the illest guy in the world and to keep doing it because I know that you're a real nigger. You know what I'm saying.

And if and I told this, like people like when Fat Joe wins, I win, when two chains win, I win. It doesn't matter, my dude. We don't need I don't need nothing. I appreciate and respect what you're doing to this game. I want you to continue to do that and put your foot on a fucking neck and just keep it dead but preferably timberlane. When you do that, because funk these niggas changed, Keep doing what you gotta do. Man,

Now what is left for to change what is? And then we will go about, well, we gotta I'm shooting a movie. I'm shooting like your movie or you and somebody no shooting. I'm shooting my movie at the end of May in Atlanta. Will take a week to do. Um. If we don't get let me be the grimy nigg maybe the New York grammy nigg in the movie. Yeah, g yeah, yeah yeah. Let me let me the New York grim nigger that come through because I can't change my accents that. But it's a movie called Apartments and

Apartments No no, a just part Okay, that's said. I gotta be there in five e me hole, me hold and fat you all all from five E. So if you gotta that's hard. We're all from five E. That's hard. It's a lumina. You gotta get it to a secret, you know what I'm saying. So yeah, so tell me about this movie. I think I got a movie coming out, Like if you didn't get a chance to see um Walking Your Trap and take Over Your Trap. It was a bank Rose film that my same team UM shot,

put together and shot. So this was a movie that I had been writing for some time. I liked bank Roll. Actually gave him a chance and it came out hard. And so you know how you just take somebody to give you a chance and then like for me, sometimes I'm the one to give people a chance and something I gotta wait to see what's going on. Like everybody else, you did what I'm saying, And it's a comedy or street. No, it's like a street. It's like the whole concept is

taking place inside of a instide of apartment complex. It's like some trouts and trip relations of like every day like you know, kind of like showing the inner inner city trappings and where it really comes from. And because trapping really came from apartment complex as you come in and it was before you know, even before you had That's why they named the trap houses. And then tramp houses turned the band door and you can just talk about how for them. But originally a trap was apartment complex.

That was that was the only place that you can really trap. You go to apartment complex, even when you didn't stay there. That's what people came kind of like how the Carter Dictator and show that. So it's like, you know, you come men. You know earlier when I started trapping, in the situation where you actually ran to cars, it would be forty is running the one car trying to serve somebody. It got real messy. And then you started organizing the trap. You started going one at a time.

Nor you get the next car, I get the next car. You get the next car, not knowing what car would come in, but hoping that the next car had money. But being in the trap, you already know what cars spend money. You already know who come. And then it went from from you know, I'm from the Beefer era, from the pay phone era. I'm from the star Tech era with the flip phone, neednory tech, star Tech, uh

and so you know all of that. You know what I'm saying and So although we won't give that whole um um, you know, the whole history of trapping, We're gonna show you some you know, a good storyline. Yo, I'm not gonna lie whatever noise that is. I'm gonna need something this drinking um and so it's just it's just it has a great storyline. It's gonna have some comedy in it because I'll enjoy company. Yeah, and and it's coming out and so I'm doing music and soundtrack

Harass Tech. So I'm doing music and I'm doing um some soundtrack stuff for it right now because I'm thinking ahead. And then I'm also doing another album this year. So College Grove is out right now. It's my dedication to my friend, my brother, one of my favorite rappers, Little Wayne. Make sure you get that, Colleague Grove. And then my next album and film, um, we'll be dropping this year, so I'll be looking out for and then CEO make

sure you get um CEO Millionaires dot com. Also, Strip Club Veterans is my other line that I'll be launching May first, speaking, Strip Club Veteran wear one of those shirts, yeah, I got I got one for you, I got one for you. And Trapic Valley trapor Vellley is Trapp Store. So it's on It's on Peter Street. That's my pop up store. Um um. And so three million Nicka is listening to chains and keeping I don't know I'm lying, but get the paperworking, man. I don't care for people listening.

I appreciate everybody. I really thank you, man. We really need that movie because you know why. Let me just tell you something like South, the West, the East, there's no motherfucking difference. The only difference is some people speak like this, some people don't right, but about it. About it was single handedly the first time New York people was like, the South is crazy, So is it like about it? About it? This movie you're talking about or

it's like this is Friday? Were about about it. It moved a culture because it showed that accent and showed how they moved to New Orleans. It was good for the coach and in Atlanta to be cool to everybody. Know that we break a lot of our words the real Atlantic, and that's important for me. You know, That's what I mean. That's why I told you apartments, because no one ever said apartments. That's how hard everment we spread in the room right now, apartment is in there.

I don't know what I'm in. The janitor, I don't know whom the New York Puerto Rican guy. Yeah, come on, but let's make noise when you change. Hold on. I can't thank you enough for my brother. At the end of the day, you really didn't have to do this. She was he was. He was doing million dollars ship, shooting six videos with a little Wayne, taking your part out and looking at the most beautifulst woman in the world, Beyonce to perform. And you still stopped, and you had

you had tech call, you had yourself call. It was so uh down with this and I really appreciate that because at the end of the day, this is where the artists win. When a DJ comes on here, they win. This is and people who want to come on this show, I'm being wanted to say, honest, yes I have favoritism, and I'm interviewing the people that I want to interview. High f be a fan. We interviewing legends. There's a

lot of legends out there. But guess what, I want to interview the legends that I funk with that I talked to, and I got so many of them and I just want to thank you for being a great sport. You let me ask you any question. You don't stop me. You ain't be like I ain't gonna talk about that. And I just want to thank you because you're a real nigga. And I see that activists it's working. It is fantastic. So describe the activists high before we leave.

What does it do for you? It's right there, it's great. It did go right there right. I wanted to Gassi to take a shot. Who did I get? I guess almost gas carrots want to smoke with me? He did, Yeah, I got cars drinks. Listen, CARROSSI from his neck like you know when you next wing, you know you fucked up. Like his next started swearing. I was like, Chris, you gotta go. I gave because I know, like if your next sweat, you've got to change once again. If and

thank you for having another great podcast. Everybody that's in the building, Let's make some noise. Hold on, hold on, bas some noise, because I'm declaring that this is the new King of the South. There's no disrespect to anybody else that claimed that. From t I to whatever I'm saying, he's a new King of the South based on consistency, based on features, based on hits, based on activity, based on progress. To me, this is the new King of the South, and this is our first just South person.

Remember we had gun play where we had him with up on. This is our first South edition. So if you thumb down South and you don't download this and you don't subscribe this, We're going to shave you all over one Love Everybody, Treat Cash Podcast, Change People. We love you baby in that movie in bed Serious, I'm one. We texting you and it's going down hazard as South.

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