Episode 54 w/ Naughty By Nature

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hate to see us winning. So I heard he got some isshoes. Hey, Yo, what's filling back? Lidio? I feel like ninety eight again, really gonna love it and the faith gonna hate again. Other niggas fright and I can't like they make it more than me. Me and dollar meds and jeans. I dressed accordingly foger male upgrade from Wogan original sliming hip hop. They all own me up A city needed me. I read a hold of the videos, killed it on the music and started killing the media

with the rental. Phil in the cup to the TV that the nigga is sick like they rum a little him me up. He they hate to see us winning, so I know they got some shoes issue, you see, they hate to see us winners. So I heard they got some shoes. You see. They hate to see us winners. So I know they got SMAs shoes, you see, they hate to see winners. Who I heard he got something really really who you know? Ell? Th't really riddle me that? Oh my real niggas know where I'm mentally at money.

Ain't got the tricky pain. What's the issue with the whole aliboom? When the hills well physically his name with the hug conversations say the blown think I'm so good. I'm just staying the fact world. Oh the cool I'm debating with him that which rhy ain't then it out of town. We hainting on that did they tell me y'all a star. I'm just trying to get these cards. They just telling me to rap. I'm just trying to move the hardest wet pants and the rolling y'all do.

But they see y'all start out the mountain like I'm blowing on the contry to see. So I know they've got some issues. Issue you see, they need to see his winnings. So I heard he got some issues. Issues. You see, they hate to see us winner. So I know they got some issues. Issues you see, the heat to see us winning. So I heard he got some issues. Issue let's and yo, they hate to see us winning. So I heard we got some missies. No prob they tripped.

I'm a bloom like some tissue rhyming with the old g sixteen by the hip like a hop nigga vley. I'm an old d shooting for father like your nobili. I don't believe nothing. Motherfucker's gotta show me trying to level up, but the streets want the old men. Keep it to myself. I did three for my code. The nigga told nigga things with the giving goal grease on Chris Hi guys on sick go and I let my ship go. They know what it's hitting for. Heard what I get it for. Imagine what I'm sitting it off.

You need to hate to see us winning, so I know they got some issues. Issue. You see, they hate to see us winning. So I heard they got some issues. Issues, issue issue, you see, they hate to see US winners. So I know they got some issues. Issue. You see, they hate to see US winners. And I heard they got some issues. Yeah, what's something y'all? What's going on? Right? He's a legendary Queen's rapper, He Hanks is your boy, and he's a Miami hip hop pioneer. What Up is

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drink test motherfucker podcast? Right and right back? I have to enter Deuce, one of the most phenomenon groups in history, not in just hip hop hip hop, but in history. These guys made countless hits repeatedly, back to back. And when I heard Dj Khalid the other days say that

he was the anthem King, I had to test her. Sorry, but every record these brothers had that was a hit was an anthem, and I had to I had to say, like, you know, it wasn't no hate because if you know what I'm just saying, like, okay, you might be the second anthem King, but I had to I had to keep it real. I had to say, I think Naughty was the first had them king. These brothers, just like me and Capone, went through problems, trials and triple relations,

came back together and stuck together through brothers. They out here right now on the New Year's Even special. I'm sure they're doing something phenomena. By the time we dropped this episode, they'll be already outside here. That's well, I think it's them. What's what's the Nick Davis just took Bolls room in Problem one twelve. It was a little wild over there. But these brothers, these brothers have you know,

stuck it out through time and they're still here. They're still relevant, They're still a part of what's going on, what's now. One of them with a phenomenal producer produced R and B. The other two is phenomenal mc larricists with a tribe coming back and doing their thing and daylyso coming back and doing anything. I can't wait for a new naughty, naughty, naughty album. And right now, with no further I would like to introduce some people that

I look up to personally naughty, but motherfucker nature. Hold on before you make a car. It's not KG and Trash. It's not Trash and KG. It's not KG and Vinny. It's not Venny in Trash. It is all motherfucking three members, not even name. Listen. I'm so much a fan of you guys. I had to go research like a couple of interviews. I haven't seen interviews with all three of y'all in a minute, am I bugging? No, you're not. It's been a minute. Okay, this is a moment. But

a lot of radio stations don't have it. That's why we've been We ain't radio. We ain't radio. Yeah to the station, so we wait outside stuff. Okay, So so so look, let me ask y'all because all of y'all from East Orange, correct, all three of y'all so, but y'all all y'all from different parts of East Orange, but pretty much the same hood. The same hood is by the five block radios from each other. I'm from fifteen streets from eighteen street trenches right across some of the bridge.

I'm a Grove Street right there. But you can move walk to each of my homes. When we were three three square mount radios of the whole hood, different middle schools, anything else, but everybody was there. Funny story. I'm born in Nork, so a lot of my families from Nork right there. Me and red Man, there's little little homies that we hated each other just because I was from East and he was from a block over in North.

Like I said, little we got cool. Me and red Man got cool because it is a little bit hoods, the hoods, the hood. It's so close. Nor is the biggest city in Jersey. But after the riots and anything else, in the sixties and anything else, a lot of people moved out of Nork, so they either went to East Stars, West s Thorns Boom, everything else. But our old family is Jersey. That's one of the smallest cities in there, but it was the most like ghetto city out of

the smaller cities there at three block radius. So how did how so you guys knew each other growing up? High school? And yeah, like junior high school, all that ainything, football, playing rams and then we used high school we met up venues to beat box, so I knew then first be in high school he would be the one then

and Kay grew up fifteen three and eighteen streets. We went to the same high school as one, but then I met him and then we used to justest he We used to rock out in health class all the time, so I used to break dance and the beat box so I would beat box. Actually our brother bro Peppers

Michigan wolver Greens, they play in the night. But his father I used to break dance with his father's how to back breakdance, so I have to break dance and our beat box for KG lived right across the street from I used to go beat box for K and then in health class trapped he always had he was a family Freddy Krueger back in the just kidding, I guess I'm hand a long nails and every day just mad long. He every day this kid would come with new lyrics and health around with health. He was spitting

new bars to me every day. So I told K one day, like this kid in my health class is the truth. We all, you know, linked up did this talent show and that was it. It was the new stack. So when you did this talent show, that was as a group or y'all? Yeah, well we did really a group at that point. Yeah, we wasn't. He just came together because I'm We're just coming together because I'm a

year older than them. So it was my senior year in high school and they will having a talent show and like then said I was DJ and and I wanted to get in and do something. So I was just like, well that if you beat box not scratch, we're gonna need an m C. And then I'd like he said, he bought tresh into it. So we just went in and we weren't even a group. I just scratched in. We just we put together name. We didn't have a name or nothing. I needed nothing our routine.

We were just practicing that we need to be up in like in my sun ports up there, like Vincent, I used to be across street, so he would hear me practicing in the sun Ports. So up there we were practiced for this talent show and I part of our routine scratched in the Beastie Boys. It's the News Style. So we started name and he's like we needed it, like at that day, what's her name? New Style, New Style,

And that was after the talent show. Wow, we killed the Talent show and were like, yo, that whole ship kind of work. And we started off with the New Style. Let's call ourselves the New Style. Yeah, let me tell you something else, do hip hop history. His families from Queens, you know family. So he sean, we said, we gotta go to town show. We gotta we gotta have coordinating ship with the New Style now. So he took us over shirt and we got the New Style jackets class

for the shirt kings and boom. So all of the doubts going on from them showing you to connect with with anything, and so who shut down New Style? Who said, let's we can't be New Style? Well we did not shot that was that was actually shot him and Chris LIKEDYI flavoring and Chris, let's get in this story. We ended up being on Sugarhill Gang Records, which was bone

on Me, yea with new style. So y'all see that picture of us with the new style, K had the hot top fade that was signed sugar Hell Records, Bone on Me. So we actually sign on me after all the sugar help just sued him and got off. They had another label. So anyway, we signed a contract without calling Lloyd's. We suited the sugar Hill game and signing and on the age and got robbed. Hey there, So the good thing to having had my homie move Brown, Big Move Brown. He had to quantum in anything we

had to get off the contract. So we're just riding down Route four to te Neck Technologs and anything up in there. We're gonna make these niggas signed us off on the napkin sugar Hill, your motherfucking right. We called an accident, had all the guns anything up, and he said, you know, Taddy, I ain't got no license. The police about to come. We got these bags of guns. I said, well you go that way, I'll take these ships and

I ran then away and left. We're just gonna get our ship release like that, And it's a god blessing that we did because we're just gonna do some bills, nasty it to get our release. But when we came, we was like, yo, how we got a Flavy Unit. Try that boom boom patchy rest in peace that you guys changed the name because no, no, no, no no. See what happened is like when we were New Style, we got we got with Flavor Unit and they and we were actually we were doing talent shows and all that.

So everybody around the hood, all through Jersey and all that, we had already started building a name. Everybody knew they were doing talent shows and we were coming in and they would have the crowl they weren't like the crowds judge it, and we would win every time. So then they started feeling like we were coming with our own built in crowd. So they changed and start bringing celebrities and like bids and some different people, and we still

kept winning. So we were just like, man, we gotta start spreading this out and start getting real with it through that whole thing. Flavory Unit forty five. King Treach was already dabbing over there with them. They were like, yo,

what's up with this group? News staff And at the time, they had Flavoring Unit MCS, but they didn't have the management company at the time, so they were just starting man the management of Flavory Unit Management shot him and Latifa were starting that and they wanted to get some some new groups to sign. And then we were one of the first Jersey, especially from Jersey, and they bought a patche over to us and Patrie Co signed us.

And then we do a We threw a party for ourselves at Upsala College out there in Jersey and we invited them over and they came and source before him and they loved what they saw. So then they took us on from there and then we started, you know, working on stuff and doing stuff. They started shopping out demo. We had most of our records even recorded. We had O P P already on there prior to shopping your you already recorded. Yeah, yeah, we we went went to

study even before you got signed. It was out in the bow man he was out years old. Ain't even come out because straight after this So but how did that name naughty by nature? That's what I'm getting true that I was saying, so so everywhere, all that all that we know, all that we was diving out. We were doing whatever we have to do. So we're in the studio. We recorded our demo. We had everything we was.

We had like you said, go to Shert King's. We did all that stuff, were building it up, building it up, doing the ground, doing the ground. And we had actually we even had shopped out demo with Tommy Boy before Flavor Unit and they turned us down the same exact demo now opp all that on it went through Flavor Unit. But once we got the politics behind us. Actually Tommy Boy now even signed us. Warner brother signed. That's Benny

Bedina signed us to Warner Brothers. He never used giving stories now how it went to from Naughty by Nature and because we didn't get to the no you went gas when we warned the Brothers sign and ship and I tell how we went from new Style, hot top fades and all of Google. In the go ahead, we had the biggest drug blocking church. He's always talked the old man, Dave rest in peace up there. It's like, why do you always talk to the old man over there? Man?

Like you always talk for the old heads, and I like, you don't know the jewels that they have. I'm over here looking old man. They told me one time he got legs out. He was in the war all that. He said, let me tell you something, A little sun sings. I don't know who exactly, but i's somebody on this motherfucking block is probably when the old bitches over there just saying what color y'all got on and ain't time?

And she when the fit when the cops come to dts come, you know, they go to y'all and row right up in the alley. It's one of them old bitches and shutting up there. From New Style to North, I have shut up how all the motherfucking the phase and trying to say how he was clean looking and we was fresh to lay they these you know you had to be fresh. We had the balleys, the Swede suits, gold nugget, nigga, Gucci links, the motherfucking real gold not

from Canal Street Street. Old man said, I said you ain't by having meet and I'm calling and said, yo, some money ain't here, saying when we gotten norm we are from this fucking dating one. You know you didn't it just chained off for you. We're taking a little yo. Know anybody all black a by dirtiest fuck fifteen Street down there, all of them they had banses. They're looking like gating for all the heat on them anything as

we was dirty. That's when the phase turned. The braid aybody came in black grandmama's kids, the dts roll around when they got on all black motherfucker's and you putting strollers and the baby all black, like everybody all black. I go through the Corge, I hit dollar Dollar. They're like, oh, that's a famie block from New Style. They read abody else or all the funk around it. So that's when the Blake and we had a song from New Style, and it was like I was just looking to titles.

I'm like, yo, we need a name New Style. That's the eighties when we're in the name. One of songs was Norty by Nature. Said, Norty by Nature was the name of a New Style. Yeah, yeah, commercial break, here you go. That I didn't even know I was gonna be here handed. That's what's upright all right now. When we were New Style, we had a song called Noughty by Nature. So when we got the Flavor Unit, Flavor Unit was like, all right, y'all a New Style and

y'all signed into this whole sugar Hill label. We got a dad all of that. So yeah, yeah, I mean, what's that name? Tommy Boy had to go because we ain't tell Tommy Boy that we was on contract over there. News and the crazy thing about bore them all crazy thing about this back then, right, And this is what's crazy about the evolution of you know, the hip hop

executive ship. We used to be on the blocks when it was time to change from new style of Norughty by Nature, when we was first pitching the name Norty by Nature to shot him and they like, you know who was there with him and Chris we had shot him from Flavor, Chris Lidy and Jimmy Henchman. All three of those guys were on them that that and that and all of those nobody on the block. He's like, many black just come out on the mother. They're like, the fuck up, where's the group? They said, this is

very nigga. Seventy deep rolling clubs. Nigga. If we said we had some jersey and motherfucker's by as we get motherfucking bulled, we said, we got booed one time, Nigga, We're going in new York seventy eighty fucking deep eye back then. You know you're there was so deep. There's robbing the nigga nigga we go. So you're saying that you did the actual opp record Pride to the Damper. That was like, um, like everything's gonna be all right coming off the first album, like ronalds shine on the songs,

throw on it. This was like all right, was done when we were working. That was done when we were seen. I was working this broad my first pussy I had in the park, and there was this other nigga bits that I ain't like me, and I was like vers it didn't come like all of them. And I got my first base rally Park and rally Park l y. I was homeless. I was sleeping there, hustling on that ain thing. He started up there here and I got my first busy and pussy up in there. It was

this motherfucker. I was never funning. It was like sisters. And then he was all that little dirty ass nigger bomb boo bo you know what there is fresh. I had the braise on that he's sleeping the park nigga. This motherfucker boh bla. He just can't come by y'all. This bit in the bark. It was like O P P and Move Brown that we're talking about. Before he was always there, Yeah, I'm done with OPM. And then he made up other people money's money because he was

like the big homie. Yeah, I'm done with over here until we always lacked and then bids like back and we always back. We come back here and thens like, well, I'm down with opp said, what's that? Other people pussy our reality? And I had I was right too, and I heard a said, what you real? You had to huk no he said that. He said, but I had a virtue already about this nigga bitch that was tissing me and anything out my pussy that was people. I said, Oh, let me for the good yo. That song with like

ten years, motherfucker. But they even know what have made because they would have never played it. It was a lot of babies making that record. Like we were sitting in on eighteen Street in my bedroom and I had there was bunk beds in there, and I remember Track sitting there with his arm on the top of the bunk bed with it and just with the note book up there and saying it to me, and I just remember that day. I just like that, this is crazy.

You knew it's gonna be a hit. I didn't. I just I just thought it because at that time you had never like you probably made hit records, but I didn't make it. But it wasn't. I we came out Yeah we can Yeah, and the class just like that because it was not the first hip hop record. The MTV broke, like really really broke. They really got behind

it because that's the MTV. I never I never tell the MTV bro I'm gonna give you my mom fucking for or far because right alert run the shot, run damn c rock box that's walked this way and opened that fucking ship for hip hop. Yea, then break the record even man that what do you say we opened the door? No? No, no, maybe you say that song that's all we got that man, I know what you say, open to the mas. You're talking about a record that MTV did a real repatively. Let's just tell a real

fucking story. You don't you made that ship the ground out close. I tell these motherfucker got damnady got charges and I'm gonna go ahead. Listen, man, what turned this ship around. Was video jukebox. We changed the whole ship. Anytime you call in the video play pop p played twenty four hours all day. They said we got changed it for and that was based out here video when you call damn every time you man. Ralph is the o G. He played our ship before we played New

South Shot. We but the video juke box when you paid ninety nonsense or whatever. They see the video all day. It was twenty four hours a fucking day, right, Yo. They had to change in format, like wait a bitut man, these motherfucker's just getting heavy play got MTV jumped in. Yo. MTV had to end fat five Freddie dr Dre on TV down mtvas when you're on TV. Raps came out. Then we got heybody, we're just doing the spring breaks

with the US. One try called quest Boston John you feel, I'm saying so with them opening the doors for us, it was like when we came in he was a genius where he just had the substitution tracking and put au ABC just like how are you gonna clear this? And it's wonder butter of Bennie. But then he was like, um, well, um, you probably just won't have no production. You have writers, but Hunters Publishing there gonna go to the Jackson viv And we say, yes, yes, the Jackson five. That's still

it was business man, you know, helping me. Yeah, we still be selling dope for We wasn't getting no for Hip Hop Parade because Kate show off. Well everybody, hi baba, and you can let your brothers. You know, there's a lot of platforms out there with the people interview new artists. There's a lot of platforms where artists can get broken

or for these platform warms. You know, I looked at me and my partner, I looked at inside the NBA, and we see, you know, that's that's Elliott Wilson trained to worry about that because I hate a guy train.

We looked at Jersey, We looked at listen where about three yall, And we looked at We looked instantly inside the NBA and we said, Charles Barkley and we've seen Shaquille O'Neill, and we've seen my my brother from Left Rack City, Kenney Smith, and we said, damn, they ain't a platform for hip hop to do that, right, But not only that, even with them, they will interview new artists. This platform is too is to continue to salute our legends,

give them fly. This wasn't true. We want to get the trees when they can't hell them exactly what I'm saying, because because you know why, so many of us, when it comes to a certain time in our life, so many people want to write you all. We got five years in the game, got ten years in the game. You can't do it again. You got fifteen, twenty years, and they just always want to write us all. I want this to be a platform that are artists, are legends, can always come on and we can salute them and

praise them exactly, and we don't ridicule people. And we don't talk about if you got caught with this chick, we don't do that. What we're doing saluting, we want you to know that tonight we are sue saluting Naughty by Nation and home. Go with the glasses. Please chell ours. We hear you a lot. Make something so sorry. I can't take you nowhere. That's everywhere so hip, that's right. I think the thing is what you guys are doing here, and you know you create a platfor for him where

cats like us could come through. Man. People need to understand about longevity. You know, even DJs MC's longevity creativity, brand management. But because a lot of people don't, maevity is disposable nowadays. And I want to be the exact opposite of that. To continue what you're saying, Well, the thing is is like, look, we're just coming from rehearsals where a cat like Rob Base it takes to shout

that record came out in the eighties. Man and cats look at Rob Bass and they think, yo, he don't work, he's not eating. He's grossing millions of dollars of years and just touring alone, you know what I mean, So that they yeah, yeah, but look, this is the thing about zat bernardists. We out here, man, it turns up them out here. We're eating. We're on this package right now. It's called I Love the Nineties Tour, right so salting Pepper and Vanilla Ice, Like cats said, people, Vanilla Ice,

you're not thinking about this cat? Reality is is that something? Step In and Phenomena Ice just headline a tour by themselves all arenas and amphitheaters, a hundred and ten dates and legends they sold They sold six hundred thousand tickets, six hundred thousand tickets, all the six hundred thousand tickets sold in twenty seventeen. So this is what we're about to re up on in twenty seventeen, is two legs

of this joint. And let's also just big up other legends that drop music nowadays, because it seems like the music is coming back to the realness and we have to salute people like Daylas Soul hitting number one. That's right independent. Then we got to also turn around and also salute requests for doing only a phenomenal album that sounds like nineteen ninety now exactly like its sounds like what's happening out, but it sounds like ninety it's sound

like our ship. Because every time we we described real hip hop, people will say, that's that nineties ship, but I think that's agesm You know the problem translations. We got these radio stations and program directors man that let you after thirty in hip hop like you would, you gotta retill it like you like you ain't got it no more, and it's the whole thing instead of a mixture and everything else. When you shop off the head of the elders the younger wold exactly like Chicago, like

that just in the music as opinion. When your boy and they locked up on of these these big so I understand what you're saying. I'm sorry, tell you exactly because it's like the animal in the Kingdom when you see the elephants and anything else, or the or the big bulls. They kill him for the touch of the bulls. The little ones run wild because they ain't got the mail. They don't listen to the moms anything. When you take the head off of hip hop, you kill the culture.

And then the young ones is running wow and they ain't talking about nothing because they just about the paper instead of the culture. So when the program directors don't have a mixture. You used to be a time where you go to West Coast. You're here seventy percent West Coast music spent with everybody else. They west your head, East Coast you here seventy here. Look you know when you at you turn on the radio. Now every way you're turning the radio, you think you down south, and

they didn't. Cousin's become corporate and all those radio stations translation all stars checks. So they have mom. They have one radio playlist, that one playlist that spread across the bars of the stations. So it don't matter what exacts, ain't format of coast, the forations, gifts and ships saw playing all the ship the same, the sound and the syndicate it as well. Not only are they playing the same records, they sound the same. You don't have nobody's listen.

That's the beauty of today's technology and tools. You know what I mean. I'm not the guy that plays the old school game and say records, labels and radio stations. You have the Internet, now, you have podcasts, you have social media, and the reality is is that the labels they did the work for us. You know, they did the work alive, they did with us, with men up in there with snakes and rats dropping them off plugs, having releases on nakation. So what are you at now

is what you can do it yourself. You could do it all yourself when thus a draw. They still play our catalog every day, So it's not about what's playing on today's nine of five radio. You got satellite radio, you gotto you're gonna direct when you have this type of and you get y'all put this message out and it's coming back to direct fans and everything. So it's to do it yourself business. I I like to play

the sounds pizzeria joint. We built this drug with hand, and now the internet gives us a chance to just keep managing our brand by our hands yourself records exactly, you could just post anything in the whole world see it. So it's like it's so the labels you like, y'all now. But the good thing is too as well, is that we came before that whole three sixty times and all that other thing of all of that, because the exactly a lot of us did, and that that allowed record

companies that spend millions of dollars on our brand. Like you're looking at when you say that, look at when you say they can't that bad and you did your soul off. It stayed out that they kept the whole hip hop like we still here like looking like like they spent millions of dollars on on our on this that they don't they spent millions of dollars to help us build this, and now we walked away with it. Right, Yeah, you know you can't do that when you get that today,

you can't do that today. That's why you ain't gonna walk you in if you want, if you want to know what the concast, if you want your own liquor, if you want anything, you know what they call it. Translation gives them more deals, no more. They call him the content deal content, So it sounds a little bit more lenient like. But you know, Leo Cones was the person that invented the three exactly and and it stuck with him so so that but now other people are

doing it. What they're doing it, you know, you gotta have one ducking they don't drink curse fornic Kate. Yeah, that baby were good that you need one of those guys. Somebody drop big old as motherucker hat. And I'll understand because of the transition that happened in the record industry games, I could kind of understand the three sixty deal because you know, back in the day they got paid off of physical content. That was the albums, the CDs, the cassettes.

That was tens of money to tons of money. Tom Silverman told us, look, when I finance dr album, I made y'all sold over two million copies of a cassette, A six dollar cassette you sold over two million copies. That's two million dollars. I already recoup your album long before I even put it out. I was the rest of the money. That's why I had to go and that motherfucker tell the old translation. Mother, so now, but that was he calls up. You had albums, you had cassettes,

you had CDs, you had physical content. Now with everything streaming and you know, boo, don't you go up on the internet is spreads like wildfire. Soul music is basically a loss leader. Right now, you're basically give it. Well, back then, it's disposable back then. Back then, translation translations average a hundred and fifty shows for the past twenty five years. Twenty five year anniversary be for Nority by name,

so it's translation. He was the hustle us. Let me put it like this to you, because you remember back in the days, a person will come out with an album and you would live with it. Like nobody really said ill Matic was a classic when it came out that week. It was the I don't know if you was at nowadays something and they threw and left fact you oh ship, yeah, I was in the first game, mother, come, but what I'm saying is what I'm saying is right

now people people don't do that. People don't analyze the album. People would just look at and people would be so much stands meaning there's so much fans of these people that they just say they album was a classic and the album without seventy two hours people. We're here to do that now because it's been more of a singles game the past decade. What the youngest about, right, the term you're talking about is back when we came up, when you created an album, it was called the Body

of Work. At first it was an album and every single run out fast forwarding every song. When I'm fast forward like time you get digital albums and lead welcome back. We missed you, my brother. You know, I gotta chotes because when we talk about albums, right, we talked about the skits that everything and r I p to our brother Ricky Harris comedian, you know, skits with death Row and all of those cats. Man, So you got a big Ricky hard especially we just had. I just had T. K.

Coplan on here. But see that that's a difference from my era. Like, um, I remember about maybe four four or five years ago. I just wanted to shop album because I always you know, you know, created our own music and we make it and then we shop it from the beginning. So I had went and this is like four or four or five years ago, and I went to a company and they offered me a good deal. But when I sat down with him, they said, you

play me this. And I played it, and they played play me this, and I played it, and I was like, all right, cool, we'll make the deal. And I was like, you don't want to hear the b sides, right, You don't want to hear the belly. You don't want to hear the coume under the table. You don't want that taking him. You don't want to hear you know, my fingernails off of my big hol and what is it called a body work? But you got to hear my

own He only wanted that they heard me. No institutionalives, right, they had you had Hello, yeah, mother, come right now, because I think right now, nor I think what you guys are doing. Norm even back then, four years ago, when you were shopping that demo, you may not have known the importance of your brand until you do the podcast. You may not have realized how many motherfucker's out there, love you because you're still shopping the demo instead of

gold straight with the middle. I'm gonna be honest with you, man. What it was was, I had did so much products independent, I'll start spending so much my mom my own money, fifteen thousand at a time, fifty thousand at a time, cerventy five thousand at a time. And what we just found out is that people this, this payola ship is being shut down in our city. And I gotta applaud that. You understand I'm saying. But back then I didn't know that,

and I'm independent, so I'm doing that. So I'm like, I don't want to spend my own money no more. Let me go back to I know this labeled on it, this an hour stuff. Let me go back to an epic. Let me go back. And when I did that, but this wasn't that. This was one of the new labels, and they you know, I had a little buzz at the time, a lot of bus and then they said let me hear the single, and I played and said let me hear the number two and that was it.

But I had a whole body of work. I want to play, I want to play I Love my Life for call Thomas and you know that might not make it radio, but the streets is going to feel that the money money what you said, they you invested in then and motherfucker's don't know they invest in theirself. Aybody want to deal ortle big Ship When you did, she would have did over. Y'all was known like you put it in the station boom old work and then the radio station don't play us that when they call us

for their motherfucking shows. We charged them triple. I mean, do you think about even now you might have a day can record label now play charge Joe smoll and just show business no more. You're like you gotta see yeah, and he's got to have follow You don't need him because you need him. So when up when the artist does build his own following you now no no no no no, But if you if you unless you're walking in, then they're throwing something they thought the money at you

can take? Why not this the vision hold or not a bad cousin crazy champ Hey, Normy, my thing is leon Ship. You don't need an artist when you're creative with your brand. Once you're established, we're all musicians we all have class and hip hop ship. Hip hop is about the diverse hustle. It's not only the LETA, it's not only the podcast. Look at what fifty is doing with power with all of these guys went. It's about being creative with your brand. You create another lane. You

don't need to go to a record label. You can come straight up the middle. Look at dream Champs right now, you can drop whatever the Welcome to play a new podcast network featuring radio and TV personalities talking business, sports, tech, entertainment and more. Play it at play dot It. We're back to Drink Champs Radio with Rapper and R and d J. Then so the FN. I was down here with you. I love that documentary series. Documentary series goes rearch and this is what people need to understand. Hip

hop is a global culture to what you're doing. I was here last time. I sat through it. Man, for you guys to travel the world and go to different pockets from Brazil to Vietnam and was a war right just to see all around the globe. Man, it's crazy. What it's being creative with your brain. It's being creative with your brain because the thing about this, this thing about is this right. I can tell that everybody head

at some point. If we wouldn't have got paid for what we love to do, we would have continued to do it right and I would have continued like like in the in the begining, but we would have been in some houses time motherfucker's up getting safe at the time, and the ship makes some noise attraction. We're talking about enough the whole life. It's definitely because and that and that's and that's what the love of hip hop is. Like. Um,

the other day they had a Hottest MC lifts. A lot of people were offended, and I understood why a lot of people were offended because but then one of the way they break it down, they said the Hottest MC list, Well, we have to take em c out of that. You just gotta say the rappers artists are the hottest. You know how they checked the whole game. You can't have a top ten and hip hop, you gotta have like a top fifty. Yeah, that's true, but you cut the whole lot of mother's sucking channel's side.

You disrespect like man arrest. Never one could take a lot of motherfucker's split off the dome without em writing nothing down they'd be making back like what mcs are you talking about? And that guy I could bring to the motherfucker show and just And the thing is when when you get into that, never in the argument, because it all depends on how old you are, when you live at when you say hottest, just like your top five or top ten, when you get into any of that, yes,

when you grew back. Ask a guy from Cali, or expect a guy from Cali to have the same list as a guy from New York. Let me ask you something. Recently, a guy named Little Yadi said he thought that Biggie Biggie was overrated. I absolutely didn't take no offense to it because I don't love Big. Of course I love Big Big. Big wasn't It wasn't, but he wasn't Ray. It's like if you asked me if Joe Joe Joe Lewis was ill, and I'm gonna tell you, yeah, from Joe Lewis is ill. From the replays I saw, I've

never seen Joe Louis. I'm gonna tell you Floyd Maywell, it's the greatest boxer I ever seen, period, because that's the truth. But I doubt if you would have said he was overrated. What my big was the best I ever said? I think the problem if you're asking another current lyricists see little Yall he does, he's music, he does, he's got to break down. They ever said you're talking to Trick Lamar or or kid you Lamar. Never see rapper or Jake Coles saying you know what, I think

Biggie was overrated. Because now you look at you know what, you're a lycist and you know that you believe you're saying that part right there, that part bigger, what's seen that ship, that part that's my man, that's a leracist face. The thing you're starting to following me on Twitter. I'm just expect that. I yo, man, Yeah, back we fell and we know man, listen, half of the hip and

hip hop need a hip replacement. You know what you mean by luck the way you said that, man, it was half of the hip and hip hop need a hip replacement because because we're trying to say that ship crippled these Yeah, I understand the world asked me for squad because I'm tapped with them shots to make your pop block and if the win at the amendment, the game and I'm top of the line and tenant that damn thing man say video right from the get go.

I want to see if many float asking TV show make a dirty city goal, can't send the city show? Funk who that being though? Let's your old community. Though we're smoking enemies like Chimneys, Hallow Hennessey. The industry got four or five minimes the Homer stolen cars and new tags, boot the bags and do rash to trade one ring for two jacks. And if you ever hit them hip hop niggers like, tell them the teeth are onto the today, to the seat today. Just back these niggas can't do this,

niggas said, can I'm around for you? I was. I was with my more and my baby mom is dropping off some money and ship and the Bronx, and he was like, I was saying, do you know, like I said, if you can't say this, I ain't. You can't. I don't even want that in the middle, some little man who didn't do literally all right, I want my Yeah, you know what they want to say, you want to

feed my money, ain't already I'm on that league. My jeans means if you do out the battle, little That's how they want to tell I'm gonna I'm on and leave getting fum. This is what I cautioned, this is what I wish the nigga war like a kissing cabinet. What this that was? Yo? Man ya, they're gonna him? He said, what we all? We all, we all must be careful. We all. I want you to hear this too. I think we all must be careful, man because one thing is for sure is things evolved. Music evolved, and

we need to pay attention to hip hop music. What we know it asked. A lot of people are complaining because they hear it soundly lyrically evolving beyond what we grew up on. It's the same thing from bebop and Cap Colloway days that was on young music. You're fast forward to disco music because soul music, Teddy Pendergrass and all of those disco music. Hip hop took out disco music,

so that whole genre. If you watch your unsung all of those guys that we're hot back in the dam and try to do it, by the time you try to redo it, it's evomed on something else. That's why you feel like you don't have an ear. You don't understand is that we need to cherish and and and really protect hip hop man, because if it evolves off into something else, you're gonna be stocked, like in the tumbar.

And what he's saying in translation is but these motherfucker's would play a whole lot of different ship because when you see it that them out of that range. They got talent, but they think they gotta make it all and all of the ship you hit sound like one song, all the seventies, eighties, eight thing, ninety. Everybody should sound different. Now they got them all sounding got to sound like

that to be there. They don't sound like one. But your new your next level of little Yahti and those next guys are like, my music ain't even hip hop. I don't know what you were. You were saying, it's kennibalizing itself. Yeah, changing within its within the same John and it's a lot of hot new music that don't

like biology, cancer cell. He's definitely gonna that's different no matter what, even if it's cannibalizing itself, the eventuality is it's But that's why all the E. D. M. Cox is um you know, blowing up and a lot of hip hop DJ y'all know that from the class five years a lot of hip hop DJs just went straight. But but him, they bail. But let me ask you

both a question, three hour question. But ship hip hop the category grids like you know, hip sub genres within here like sub jobs and girl hip hop, classic authentic. I mean we do it to ourself anyway. Some people like it backpack conscious. You can't you cannot cage, you can't box in creativity. Yeah, that's hip hop what it is and what it can't do. All you can do is walking to the bricks. It's like the pyramids. You're

gonna have a little pyramid. Some of them fucking pyramids is so big, so many people worked on that pyramid that it's bigger than yours. It's bigger than yours. So now that's easy ativity. You don't ever want you can. You can put your own stuff out via and say enough humanity. It's it's only yourself, yea nobody off. You can be from Africa and go to Europe and combine cultures and come up with some fly ship to move

global humanity forward. Stay over here because this culture is that, that's that, that's why translations over here a little bigger That's why the relation every this is why you say, then you get this. It's born from wherever it's born. So many people from so many different cultures, regions, ethnicities, they all participate love absorbed hip hop, and then when they try to regurgitate it. Nigga shouldn't be wrapping. White boys shouldn't be wrapping this guy, shouldn't be wrapping. That's

not fly. Can't do that. You can't do that translation. Fuck you radio stations. Niggas go into the nag didn't cord translate for you. It mean funck y'all. We do ourselves. When we got ship like I don't know where we got it. Got no gifts. We got gifts to nigga. This niggas't translate. It ain't gifts niggas translation already, I don't even so I said those gifts already. I'm just showing y'all how we're bringing in the new Yo. Yeah, you better be leaving somebody. That's all. Check, that is all,

and that and those besides you. I'm telling the hat okay yo side give me whatever. I ain't gonna lie. If I got those, I'm framing those. I'm not wearing those I'm putting that ship watching, putting that in the kitchen work. We're bringing in the new you know she listened. I don't know if you know this only support rapper ship. So I look, look besides Hennessee and they're gonna cut the check eventually. But everybody else they either cut check on that rap. We support rap. We got va. I

don't know why didn't even bring out the vodka. I'm gonna about. We're gonna take another shot, signs of ship security security dress Ready another shot? I got the KG. This is yall. Why you poor? Because I'm about the same. You drinking because like smoke. Yeah, you saw us in my now some of us four and I did same. Sick it up. Can get it. I'm getting me ship. Oh you're not taking a shot? Sorry, you got you gotta take your shout of sur rock. You've been taking

shout of rock. You've been on white. Don't switch it up. Yeah, but that's that's a mixed stream. It's a mixed drink. So yeah, straight blue young, I gotta big. I got a big up. Did he did he d rock in the sack? Yeah? What you did? You? We did our twenty fifth anniversary pool Shiprock came through. We do it came to the like one of the cook gown. Yeah, like I can't, I can't want to, you know, like the brother pool. That's right, that's what you got us.

Something man, I used to western ya. Could you look at this motherfucker? Dude. This looks like like a double shot of some talking to me like I don't know something this ship let's go real quick. Told us to be crazy. Fact that told I told videos the last time. Y'all have to remember the craziest video remix in the remix from the Miami, The Miami, the CZA. Yeah, it's me and my crew was Broward County. We showed on

the lin Fellers. Everybody shot y'all that ain't ain't done that that point where we are, Yeah, remember the records. I remember that's the homie that used to roll with y'all back those rejourn news. I'm gonna I'm gona telling you some funny ship. I'm in Japan, right, just like I gotta be like nineties nine, two thousand maybe two thousand one in that area, though not anywhere with bot that I meet this. I'm in Japan. I'm just randomly dude come up to me. I said, what do you

definitely say? But he said, what with that? Man? Let me tell you what I homie like, you seem like you're from the town, like the way you're talking your swag. He said, Yeah, I came out here with Noughty by Nature a year ago and I never came back ever since. Yeah, Japan, with London all over the world. When you trying to over the world, you might have advice on a pass, fool, but that's how you know. Yeah you. Helpy was one of our regional radio wraps. She worked for Tommy Boy

and she was the London regional. We took him out there. He bagged and knocked up and never think about that. Yes, he came back. I know how that regional game. When I was out there, he didn't come back. He said, that's spending different type of money. To translation translation, this motherfucker would come back and get deported from the country. He's talk with us because this nigga, they're like, LP,

no leave his ass, but he living in London. I think I think like it's talking like like nigga, you up from the hood, but you're not. But you know how, me somebody and somebody would be like, Yo, I'm down with these niggas and then don't want to call him or not he can call none of y'all know he's the way he was holding out. Let me tell you

haven't ever called anyone of y'all. And I knew it with said you know your relatives my niggers was like, yo, y'all said, nah, he got I believe if he were that Nikols said, you know one of your relatives relative everywhere when he touched yo, we all got the eye like I should. I heard on this side he got it, tat it on the wrong side. But he's like, yeah, I just wanted it over here. Like He's like, like he touched, Yeah, he TechEd my man. Yeah, man. LP

already knew his story with the truth. I've never asked and I never seen y'all for ten years straight. I've never been up because I just knew. When he said it to me, I was like, I believe you ain't got definitely really, but listen now, KG, So you produced for the group, what you produced for New Style? What's it called style? New Style? Do you produced by Naughty by Nature? What makes you say I'm gonna grant you out start my own label and incorporate R and B.

Because that's what it felt like your label was. It was group tied here the Hawaiian who ain't gonna see me listen, man, once we got on board, man, I was running. I was running, So we're happening. Arraster came to you an arrastill because that's where your label was at first, right hometown Holetown with the first group, and I was on Mr DJ Fan for the Rascals on there was on Motown, y'all. I mean, I always loved

R and B from the door. Like even if you listen to like the first Nority My Nature album, like the way that it was done there was there was a lot of music, musical stuff on there. Even if you go back and listen to new style stuff. I mean I was sampling the Eagles, a bunch of different stuff like that. Like I always listen to a bunch of different records like that or off to the side.

I mean, as a producer you have to anyway. But growing up, especially R and being soul music like my parents is originally from the South, and then that's what my whole queen's think came in they got together and they grew up in Queens. So my family is from Jamaica. Mother and my father Jamaica Queen's grew him to make a Queen's y'all them up side one in bush. I did Jamaica Queen's man family face like, yeah, he doesn't.

Coach Shaun is out there like y'all like and you know they like I said, they grew up in the South, So my grandparents is down there. Some of my um my father's like sisters. So we would go to the South always playing and my father always just played a bunch of soul music. That's my younger brother right there, like he's saying, no, you know every record, every record, every movie, and that's all because I mean because of

growing up. Like when my father like that's all he did is that records they play like that's why he about the falls sleep. They beat us in the head growing up. So when I when I got the opportunity to do that, man, I just I wanted to do something different because I just said, you know what I want, I'm gonna swip. I'm gonna flip the script and I'm

gonna shot people because I'm gonna come left Field. Everybody's gonna expect me to do hip hop, but I'm gonna come and do something that's influence John Ay and Next Brown. What do you feel when you when you see next and then you see the guy, why you always like you want to see that guy keep it real, want

to see me me personally? Man, I feel like it keeps it keeps correcting about you know, the mailbox to check to the mailbox, and that's the thing, like like eventually my thing is just like man, we gotta put in the hard work now and just to put on our flip flops and walk to the mailbox and ain't got to work no more. People like that, people like people like always like even these movies like if you look at a movie like um off, m like The Office Party, I'm gonna send you the chack we got.

We gonna flip the walk to the mail man. Did I show you? Did I show y'all? Yes? Yes, let's make some voice slightest because stressed through my light up year gold that you look at movies like Office Christmas Party that just like basically took and remain like we're just talking about earlier on OVP Christmas Party remade that and license that, like you teld me like when they did down on MTV and he said that, y, you're always lying, Like that's how I say, like I'm not

mad at stuff like that. That keeps it going, keeps your brand alive, and keeps your publishing flowing and going, and allows you to walk to the mailbox. Man. That's when his when his views, like when that guy his views go up. What happens the publishing company call you all you are like the riginal record Internet, it makes him everybody year spend that money promotion. And that's weirdly crazy about that, right. My daughter, my daughter, I have

a daughter that sixteen years old. So she was playing that record and viral video was lying. So I said, you know what, I said, you know that record? I said, that's my record. She's like, she's like, you know out of here. I said, yes it is. I like, that's next record, like the group next. She's like really, I was like, yeah, not playing it. She was like, oh

give me. She like like whatever. That but about it, like it introduces you to a whole different audience as well, so it allows you to bridge the gap, like you said, and it becomes recurrent. So okay, so I'm gonna twisted turn even though I know you wasted, good wasted. You're wasted, my brother, you're wasted. Well, I'm about RAMI is giving you Mama. I was talking about find the Womrono, Holy Telito, jacking New City Vide's and Badest thrown see in. He know we do be damn duty ask he kills silver

crafty Pappy. That's how they trying to who's back with the new guy, who's tracking man? And who that I got to chilly, not like billy lly. Y'all's got me silly. If you feel me spit the filly, really feel me spinning in infinity. The fine flows, comedy and couches in the condom combos the prime problem my flow, my flow, anything less to be attests any more only than nine knows they're selling less and nine shows of fine folks. My foe blows shows that time shows think a bit

like that. Did you have safe about just just spit around? I told you, bud Way, God come to me every day? Why mom is in the brooks? I had niggas was going when I had to come through, and they was like yea like translation translation translate my way through. They that transfer. Yeah, there's a record I need to do to make it up Uptoil Anthorm. Yeah, please tell you the making of Uptown anthing that came about. Didn't even I didn't even I'm not I didn't you making at first?

What is like Brothers the World Records with the skeleton beat. I didn't like the skeleton the beat, uptail anthem Juice, Yeah to this track. It was in the dar because I said, Yo, this is this is what translation translation the jail. Because of that we have to do. They came up they would translation down. You came down to block and understand the translation. He came down the block. He said, Yo, Tommy boys on us. They want us to do a record for this Juice soundtrack. What are

we gonna do? What you want to do? I said, I don't know, man, and I'll start playing the movie's already done. Though the movie was done, but then he's already in Yeah, yeah that's yet. It wasn't out. But Tommy Boy wanted us to do a record, and they said we need to get a record for it. So they came up there and I was just like, I got this one joint. I was like, but it's a skeleton, I don't really like it or whatever. And I played it and I was like, I don't really like it.

I put it in real quick, took it out, then start playing some other stuff. And he's just like, no no no no no no no no no, go back to the other one. Go back to that, which one, Go back to the other one. This, Yeah, that's it's gonna fly were the world and now won't coptition, beat your break your bunk yourself get you. Two days later, a little to me up with a dick and don't

want to bring your brothers ships. Morning on the hippo, the flame flas and the damn you can't go far no matter where you go here fighting was cool, like the check and then we got food. Yeah, we got I'm gonna happen. We go well, we said out you know everyway I said it out of court with me, God damn su tell that ship, God damn it, mother, they said, out of court when they funk with me, my brother, Oh sh I think we want to drop this. It's a gang of little niggas and who he's outside

to just keep following me and ship and anything. It's just saying t Trad Norty Norty, Norty Dory, you love you no, no, yeah, this let's drop this law suit. Who is these motherfucker's out? Ain't drew? Story start to limitation. So I want to ask you serious slashes, serious, some serious ship, some serious. Who did you meet for Big up Pop Pop? Yeah, Paw can'ttroduced me to big when Pocket Big Dog nigga, I died with him. I'm just here haunting niggas with the truth. Real deal then was

my niggas. So now when did you meet Pop? I'm the pop. We were doing um rolling, flavoring and anything and on the road it was queen Ante for a heavy D Republican to me and digital underground. So he was doing a humpty and around that was a road. No see that that that I would say, they told him and get this nigga crazy off the block, like you take him out the role. He would just be drifting around the hood. We were just like you know what we say, Yeah, they said, you just let me

tell you something this day hood. You know how you grow up from the hud and you got brothers and you know you got catch like yo, these niggas as some wild niggas, right, Tretch has always been that I've been in denying you all these years. I'm like, Tretches wild Trench ain't really that wild. Let wild fucking mega right here, Yeah about this catch, don't worry about yeah. But yeah, like they all when we were again stage we stick down there though, but forgetting stages with Flavoring Unit.

We were norty by nature of the town and we were starting to get everything together and Latifa them was going on tour, and it was just like we were just like, yo, just take Tretch, let him be a roady, just take translation, just take we. Oh, we don't have anything, we anything. Everybody played their position. Nobody never killed, nobody from the homies and nothing. Nobody know nobody nothing. It was coach rules, anything else. Averybody played their position. I

was the motherfucking we peaceful. Then forcef anybody funck with my mother fucking brothers and our whole quick you feel me? They did they part, they do the abody played they fucking position, and the niggas come. I'm just saying no more. There's the whole. But you remember the first day I'll met Pop, the first time man. When I met this nigga, Yo, they had that we was on the road. We was roadies. What roadies are people? We got a little bit damn. Damn is what you get paid a week or something,

you know, and you carry them bags. If you're happy, you're happy. He wasn't there. You're happy to be because they yeah, they sent me out. And that's how I met when he signed with Flavor Unit Management. Right, we were still on the block basically, but when we signed with Flavor Unit Management, they took trips from the road so he could go pre style in the middle of a forced me these my brother said that way we got business that years ago. Not easy to out here,

and we do something about the second man. We used to be on the block, right, so everybody we was shut down the block for the day. We're going a great adventure, Nory, We're going a great adventure for the day. This nigga would stayed back. Nobody's on the block. He's out there setting his own prices. Double the rate because nobody's out there. Everybody's in holding up, holding up translation

real nigga. I said, they said, you know, you can't get these ships for twenties and I said, y'all, I think, and he's you ain't think. We're up in the fucking price. It's like move far. I said, y'all take y'all vacating. They ain't niggas go I'm taking. They called me trigger. I'll go serve ship with them peace. I wanted to go to break eventure. That nigger niggas going make lots of tress, never going to one of the somebody going to hell got the ship. No, niggas ain't gonna right

now that that nigga ain't go there the block. He come on over there like that. We use it on black, ain't back out the block. So you remember going to use you might never go nowhere. Niggas used to come around, go to five events. We just anchored down on the block and just getting it. I don't want to go to break. I want to go do ship. Look we use evans were beating without. He was like he was beating with weaking without wasn't going nobody. Translation were beating

with our ya. We ain't seen street physic ship. They fresh as hell. They're looking like they're fresh out of motherfucker paying for out pole and ship. They got the BMW change. They were dirty and shipped on the block. When they get braidy, they want ill, can we come over in the old Man for Friday? No nigga nigga, y'all niggas is hot. We dirty y'all coming over here and bringing them business and all that ship and gold chains. They see all these niggas and we're yeah, they'd be

over there when we go out. We are mixing ship all our mother bud and they got damn Gucci suites and about now, y'all not coming. So try anybody to try to come through the block for the O G Ski and and all of us. A body would have mother got dance to that, even if from somebody, that's because the grand mama. Yeah, like you are naked trying to day to block over there. Even Yeah, I got a question ship, Yeah that you can't control this hold

held hold on translationship translation. Let's get this breast. Just show that. No just was lad king. Well guess what's got kicked gone? I was not with the last day. I was a fucking they said I was from Washington, was dominicant. We are yeah Boston translate. You know, hip hop represent every race. He's on the Rail. You know, I watched, like I said, drink Chaps is this type of podcast. It really isn't. Drink Chapters just for every culture, and it's hip hop. That's why I feel like hip

hop should be its own race. Like I feel like, I don't know, I know this is a tardy, but they might be genius. I think that the next presidential race people should run as hip hop candidate. Yeah, I mean, maybe we need somebody else. Few it's third day but Trump. But there's people like David Banner. There's people killing Mike. There's people are what's my other brother that was on Deaf jam um young brother on Deaf Big, on death Chat. There's people that we can listen. That's maybe maybe we

gotta rush from to the presidency. Okay, maybe mayors, why not? But maybe maybe with David Banner, like David Banna, I suggested that, you know, he didn't in Mississippi. I suggested that when Tyler Quali sat here, you weren't for Brooklyn Counsel. And the thing is a lot of us because I remember I told it to Russell Russell Simms. I was,

I was, I was in uh hip hop summits. Remember back in the day simon the Hip Hop Summit, So Russell Simmons, I've been like seventeen and at just one points, like, Russ, you're getting me out here because he because wherever I'm at, he's pulling over my whole bucks because it's like death at the time wherever we are, Like your show was canceled or not. You gotta do the Hip Hop Summit right your Russ? At some point are you doing? Shouldn't you give us back that? And Russ is like, he's like,

so what do you mean? I said, why don't you run for president? And I know I said this story on the on the podcast a couple of times, but I'm gonna say it again. He said, no, I mean I smoke dope. I said, ain't smoke. He said that osmoke terroke. But back then I understood. I was like, you know, Russ, a cool smoke troin cool Right now, what if Donald gave us anything? He gave us the hope that they don't give a fuck. As long as

you create your following. It's just like Kanye. I mean, whether you agree with Kanye, you don't agree with Kanye, his followers still follow him. That's what happened with Trump. He used social media, social media President. I said it from this podcast from the beginning. What did I say? Trump turned on politics into smack DVD. They didn't care about what he was saying was factual. Without it was the better line. They don't give a funk. You could

tell this factual. We get him with facts on the snackb But if you got the better line, translation, don Trump's motherfucker and I'm going to wall. Here's something he was reading, hell hoppy. He was saying what the majority of the voters was going to say. Trump. Yeah, we gotta protect this. We gotta go this, we gotta have this, we gotta beat for us, we gotta more moment. We got Bill, you know what I mean, the separation and

they president and everybody was gonna here. Here's another thing though, Nor and Bill up. Not only do I think the better player is for all of us if we're involved in politics or whatever, it's just like you're putting on the next artist. It's just like you're putting on the political men and they tell them at listen. It's not like it's not like you're putting on the next artist. You're just co signing the next urban politician or your

next young politicians. So we provide the mouse mouthpiece. We provide that international connection. When you're talking about hip hop as a race, it's gonna be a normal race. It's gonna be multicultural, multi ethnic, it's one voice. So what we need to do is we need to keep doing what we're doing because we're and we're signing the people who are gonna be there and trenched that look mostly like they'll do. Like I said, we're playing our parts.

He's great with the you know, the politicians, all of them. I'm in the streets with I'm having a nick homies, doing games together and everything else. We got that playing games with the rivals. They're put on the lights of the city. You know, we pull the cars up, put the headlights on them. If I got waters bomb uniforms, and we have different bloods in the crypts, it ain't

blood against gripts. Just like teams with stall up. So when you break bread together and see in the streets and they go back out, now you know that's my people.

You know what I like a little bit to just put back to the community where you have any teple connect that ship goes far in hip hop is all within it right right, because you know, the point that we kind of trying to get at um is sometimes are still being in the hood and still being involved with the hood and still being around the hood, and

we're not giving something back. The thing about it is we have to we have to push it forward because the error that we live in with black men being murdered every Jing, Chicago, think about I'll get the Chicago next. But I'm saying, you know, just on the streets getting pulled over for traffic, like getting pulled over, like we're at genocide already. How could we admit our own genocide? So like I can't, I don't really want to beef

for anybody. I don't want to have you have to do with anybody, have to have problems because we have fucking war within ourselves. What I'm saying, within ourselves, it always hurts and always it always hits home because it's like, damn, I guess what, don't don't we have the same news station, we have the same NFL. How are we still beefing? When we came up, all of us, we had forty houses, We had little drinks, a little bit, we did a

different thing. These kids. Now they're getting house ship that the motherfucker would like shrim and lane oxyto, yeah, percocet, And they just waked the funk up and head and jailed for life, like what happened? You killed three motherfucker's two who was your homies? And they so hot? Like we wasn't on that type of ship. It wasn't cool

to be a thing. But translation, it wasn't cool to be a fiend just killing guys are just scared to just have a fair one and just walk away from it like that, like that's what it used to be because solved. Your fathers went to the play take the gun like put up them take the board if that time. But we got gift basket. We look ship that's gonna stop showing off, showing off back ship, drink your bags. I never that I never seen that one. You know why you let me just say something. We're gonna get

back to everything that we were talking about. But you know what, you guys raised not only me, not only FM, but you raised hip hop. You got stood there. You're still strong. You can consistently stayed the same no matter. I don't get I don't care when I'm here in New Norty record. As long as Cage is on a motherfucking be exactly nigger, it's a it is kicking that ship and then videos coming in there with that button on that bread. That's exactly what it is in hip

hop needs to continue to appraise. Praise you. I said a praise. Let's let's roll with that. Translate. I'm drunk. You know you don't. That's why I take you everywhere. Welcome to play a new podcast network featuring radio and TV personalities talking business, sports, tech, entertainment, and more. Play

it at play dot It. We're back to Drink Champs Radio with Rapper and R and d J. Then listen, you know what it is so many people when they when they ride off our legends and when I know the real deal because I'm in the field and I walk around and I know that I see tretching Ruth Chris, and then if he go to the bathroom, I take care of his bill. If I if I go to the bathroom, we take care of my bill. And we're

out there living good and just having fun. And it's like I didn't want him to just tell that to me. I wanted to talk to to the world that were out here still living. Just because you don't see a person on the Hottest m cless, don't mean he ain't the hottest MC right, Nigga niggas ain't working at us and you guys I got but yeah, niggas all around world wide asked boards, that's why I was about to go to listen. Let me just tell you something. Number

one record in the world, you know, platinum album. I go to London or something like that, and I see that. I saw this is my favorite group, like at the time, like was in my long it's my ship. Now I'm on Tommy Boy. They tell me, boy, I don't understand because time like and I see them, I said, what you're doing out here? He said, we gotta show like two weeks from now, and I laughed at them. I literally was like, what just out here for two weeks?

Because I was so young, I didn't know what happened, So alright, cool, here's I went platinum whatever whatever when things went down and not just in Europe for a month. Oh, I understood, But I was so young at that point that when they said, like, you're just chilling in Europe for two extra weeks. I have no idea about features, I have no idea about hosting mixtapes. I have no idea. But I'm sitting because to me, Europe at that time

was like, why be here. I can be in Harlem, I can be in New Orleans, I could be in Miami, I could be in l A. And then years later, when I sat back, and you know what, hip hop might live real hip hop, the hip hop that we're all talking about, might live more in Europe. It doesn't. In Europe is out there six o'clock in the afternoon, and I'm like, what time to close? Club opening, like nine o'clock, Like wait a minute, why are they out there? Why my sound check? Because they want to be the

first people in there, and they're out there breakdance. This nick is doing graffiti at the venue. Yeah, this is a bad thing about I. Ever, when they got that where you can see the old school or the throwback the nineties eight, then that say this like America and this is like the world like compared to us. However, we could go all over and tour. If you ain't got that content like that, you know you got Japan. They break dancing still, they look at you they don't

know English. Here's one thing I want to tell you, guys, and I want to tell the worst to the audience. Man, do not take your own backyard for granted. Because, like we told you all those new style stories, we got fucking established as the new stop right there in our backyard. It was our high school auditorium where we got our first studience. Then we mastered our backyard, and then we took it where we took it. Don't keep letting people or don't let people tell you all the money is overseas.

When we have all of these, we have the whole United States right here. That's right now. I'm telling let me just let me just tell you this. I'm gonna drop it on you. Seventeen we will be doing easily one hundred amphitheaters and arenas in the United States. That's not going to Canada. It's not going nowhere. Eight to ten thousand people, man on this. I love the nineties tour, but working with our agency and the game is evolving. The game is evolving. These package dates are the ship.

But how about these new artists? Right will throw out a record and it's hot on the internet, and the good thing and The bad thing about the internet is when it's hot on the internet, it's hot in places we don't know. They can't really build a foundation. Like I forget. This guy is a white guy. He said, Um, the white guy only needs is a good booking agency. You know, Um no, not no, not post a loan.

The guy, he said, he's not about that life. Oh Slim something, sim boy, Well, Slim, you just put out the record. His record blew up and he couldn't even even if he wanted to build up his own hometown, he couldn't because he when he threw it up on on the internet, it blew up everywhere else. So how about these guys like this? I just said, I see what you can do to like like even like going back like just to to just funds relating to us, and and and going into like to piggyback of what

you're talking about. It's like even with us, like we felt like I guess my point, I'm trying to say, it's even without Slim Jesus or anybody like that. You got to continue to plan and continue to build, like you said, you can still build that home as well as outside. Like even with us, we locked our hometown down at home and I was our city and in our state. But then our we were said, we said, this Tom is spread out now and we went in New York and the first time we went in New

York was birthday party. They booed aside in that place. And we were a bun birthday because we said from because it was Right Alerts birthday party. Right, so back then and this was the eighties, we would have style. We weren't even Norty by nature yet. So there's Daylight Sould trip called Quest Queen for krus One, you name it, you name at Right Alert's birthday party. We come there because Ka's brother was managing us at the time and

he knew the promoter who was throwing the party. So he's like, back, we'll put you all on as the new style of just opened up. Before whatever else happened, we got up there and that this was the craziest ship in December. We got up even if I was first, I'm saying that we're from Nordy. My nature went from Jersey. We got booed before we even dropped the racket. Then when we dropped, they bowed us out of the building. The craziest part is when we pulled up the street

clear like this. By the time we got bulled and had to drive back to Jersey, it was like three ft of snow out there, Jersey. You know what. Look, we sat whole rod and I'm doing it. Never happened, Never say we would time right, We went back to the drawing boy like until this fucking day. Man, We don't care about what you know. We got the brand, we got the legacy, we got the lot of the people. You have the Internet, you have the proper tools and

to own to operate a business. Roll up your fucking sleeves, investing yourself, stay on top of your ship and you can manage and missing and I bust. You know it. Nigga would count you out a million times, they say, not trying to hear that ship. You're banging out with component, trying to figure out new music. You can't lust on these niggas with tree chats. Hold different lane, man, all right, that's what the game is about. That we had a guy already voted for you to stay on top ship.

Anybody could do every fucking thing. Prey voted for you already already, nigga. Man, it's yeah, it's a politician like a mother for you. We do this ship, man, We've been doing this ship for years. Man, when when we had a minute before we went in New York, he said, no, don't say we from Jersey because I's going to whip least, there were gory say do not say we from Jersey, rock back, motherfucking frost niggas and hip hop. Don't know man, if you wasn't frond of the Five Boroughs back year.

This was like before we say eighty nine, he's eighteen, nineteen years old from fucking Jersey. We were away. One thing. One thing was when DMC was sort of like your inspiration, please food every Friday nightmare. Let me tell you this to even with all of that, right, a trade coat in middle school with a briefcase, and that motherfucker came on the radio playing motherfucking motherfucker season Ship here. You know all that motherfucker is like yo, the washing lord.

You know, like you said saying, I don't start feeling it was my ship. I was little ll that we came out. When we came out, was mad because Kumod was like he took out dodskin niggers, but I love you feel me then dar he's Niggs man. Then if you need Darson Niggs coming back. Daddy can can't translate big Daddy can't put chocolate back. But you know what. On another speaking of Run Damn Ce like we've always been,

like you said, we've been everything we do. See we call it like everything's after them like we but we when we came out in ninety four ninety three, we came out with hip hop array hip. They still they said, backtrack to that reckon with the decoration of that and the evolution of it. But even with that, we were, like you said about feeling itself. We came out with that I thought first time, and we sold millions of records. Come out with this. We're back on top. We're gonna

got our own tour. We're like, yo, listen, we love running them. See this is who we came up on. And at that time people start to sleep on Run Damn See, like, oh they're over. We put them on to we we see now listen what we were saying to ourselves. But our audience gonna come see us. We're gonna murder them. Man. The very first show, Rinch member Rich Richt tell us story. They said, tell U, man, mother fucking now, I'm talking to the hell that. I said, no,

we don't want one. Then see we said, fucking cancel the tour run d n C can't come out. I said that that we wanted to tell the old story anyway. We said. We were out there and we're like, yo, I showed it crazy grow. We're gonna go out here and they can do whatever. We're gonna kill them, man, then see what out good head bop the very first, the very first, every show I've learned us nigger. We

didn't go close, gonna go troll. We're gonna play position, going before them niggers because you're going after the headline. You one DFC. If you lest somebody set you over that that's how I did go as him one DFC niggers it up. You don't want to for a lot of people don't want to, don't want to go on a lot of people like you can't go after wends nehing like we do you fresh, don't you know what about? I was actually my first deal. I want time boy.

Then death came in heroded yea, yeah, yeah. Because I didn't like Tom Silman. He kept coming to means but eline on this, I just I just thought it was weird. He he was doing normal like rustling and then nas and I can l A and and your closets. He came out, came out of the class when he got away. Any time I came in here looking for nih, he just just like it was like like that, you know where he whatever you are? What do you guys? What do you guys thinking the game today? What are you

thinking that? You know what I'm thinking the game the half of hip hop, and he's a hip I think half of me says, um uh, they're not doing real hip hop. But then the other half of me says, they said the same thing about you when you were doing I listened to what my kids want to listen to. I listened to that. I see the good all the time. When we first name, I like because you know, you know, like I like the gut ship. It's like it's like, you know what happened one day was club I started

living here. I start living here, and no matter what, you go to a club, and the club they play the young ship, So you know, I'm cool. And then one day my son pick up not saying I love you. I miss you. It's in basketball camp. Motherfucker call me. You know, they don't want to call me because translation anyway, yeah playing ball. So anyway, Um, I used to walk past my son and room and I used to hear the ship that I heard in the club. So now I started to get curious and I started to be like,

all right, well why is he listening to that? So I would tell him, come out your head, take the beach pill and he'll be like, if you don't want to hear my ship, pop like, first of don't call me pop dad dad, just flick that sound pop sounds like. And then I started to I started saying, you know what, I'm not gonna judge my son because my parents ain't judging me. Some of them him listening to what you

listen to. And that's what kind of got me into the new generation like acceptable, Like I could care less. I'll be in the club, say so be live, but you know that's a loon. But switch DRIV dreams and story and I'll be in the end. I'll be like and I'll find myself loving this ship, not even liking it,

loving it the same music that I know. But if I was to listen to it in the nineties or in are you going to left racking and listen to that ship but your peers no, amos, my peers no, but here you and left the young kids and kids where they are listening to that. So instead of me being like like a dude like that, I started to listen right well right, you know, yeah, don't see but no, no,

but the thing, you know what it is. I think a lot of people, I think, not not not all of them, but I think some are most of them that do have the total total like shut out of and just be like that that is that because they don't have kids. If you have kids, they will start understanding because you see how they react to it and you listen to them listen to it, Like you said the same thing what you said, I can relate together.

I was seen Translations that's been playing that stuff for years, and I just hear him playing it, and I hear I'm saying these songs to three months before they even come out, like because they get that. All those kids do, they explore, they get off the internet, and then they played in their rooms and then all of a sudden the radio starts playing it. Later. But you've been a herd.

Don't playing it this head? And I was starting anyway, perfect one, Jake Ford, I think it changed this motherfucker game man had the motherfucker new motherfucker to do a project. We got the old doctor throwback tracks from the era, having my money and Kazi our nephew there he had a hit and all that battle. Actually, okay, KG got a question I gotta ask. Let me actually this yes today, yeah, which you make a song incorporating that side that style of music, if you today, if you if you were

making a record, I did already. Um funk flex actually went crazy on my my new record because I know and I know it's younger new style. No, it's not younger new style. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. When you made the fucking trap beat today, I didn't get that. I didn't like translations. Did it translation? If you mentioned a certain motherfucker, we don't you get your money with that. We don't sunk up your money. You got are no where, don't go through the stage. Didn't and we rolling two

years ago. Yo, let's do a project where the path play yourself that probably lang yourself. Thank you. I wasn't comfortable in that you know and you you know what, don't go down to do that. But you don't have to do that, my husband, that's a bridge. There's the biggest podcast in the world. Before that thought trap music didn't work. I didn't crack you like the old mom movie. You know, you had to connect with you. We got conn Why don't sucking us and connecting blow up back?

You don't be sharing your stand you know, he go get him? You come straight up to the Just text me on that mother ship up. We're listen. We're gonna like a thousands and Jersey niggers. Yeah, train can right down. You know what I'm just saying for the video, Yeah, showing like gonna do it. You goddamn it is nor what's the relationship with who for? That's my brother. He just texts me, marry Christmas. I wished to a married Christmas.

I've been texting a wrong number because my phone hasn't been backed up in thirty six thirty eight weeks, thirty eight weeks. And it's because I'm a bowls I'm got from resource from from special education that will kick your ass in science class, I'm good, I'm just every other class. I don't want to keep you the kid. But you know that's the homie. I haven't spoke to him because what happened was we were we were doing That's that's always been. So what happened to the tracks were done?

Said the studio on the whole side of your house got the quest but I didn't know. I was thinking that up. Hit me, what are you doing? I said this on the board of the bus, and sometime were on the board we gotta saying that it's good. It's just were on the board of the boss. I want the webinar on at each other. Were fighting each other just to get the car. They say, you don't say we gotta saying. And it's called pie p I E. And this is what you all need to understand. P

I E. Positioning is everything. Positioning You position yourself and without giving up too much normy you're doing your thing. Blocks the podcast journalists help. I saw when you saw you like you went to I follow you on social media going to one of these fucking journalism media events, like you know what I'm really seeing. This is my first time showing up at one of these motherfucker's as a journal That's true. So what's the experience, the diversity.

People need to learn from you too. How do you work that brand, diversify that brand, find out the avenues to reinvent yourself. Well, I just reedituate. What I was kind of saying earlier was um, the brother that sits right there, DJ and my brother. He kept telling me, Yo, we should do something, we should do because we had a radio show at first, and then this has been serious satellite and exing combined it because I remember at first Serious See was separate. So we had a radio

show and it did pretty good. But then when it merged it together, I believe I had just moved to Miami and it was like, yeah, I could do the show if you do to New York. I forget what exactly what it was, and then we stopped doing it. But if he sort of knew what we had when we did this show, so I reiterated to me, kept saying, you're let's do something, let's do something. And I had did a podcast, you know, long story short, and then we started doing this and then we our idea was

fuck it. I listened to how Nuny seven, I listened to Power Lardy nine now Here, I listened to all that and all these platforms is based on the old nigga that's hot or the new nigga that's hot. Why don't we praise our legends. Why don't we say and say and say you know what yo, listen, listen. I know we quoted some of your records where you can go through your albums. I know your words word, but

still got um noon. Understand that it's business. What you're saying is the reality is what corporate America, all the corporate radio stations. It's business. It's not personal. We all know all of these programmers people run these stations. They would love to do more, but they have to follow the order of the day. And it takes cots like you who you know this side of the game to bring a nory in and create your own. My favorite coment is if it doesn't exist, creative. So that's all

it takes. You listen to all of this ship, you see what's going on, you say, you know what's missing, and that's what Pop said, ain't the weakness in the game, and sew it up and then so many people, so many people that I know that's real. Hip hop lovers used to get playing about hip hop and the thing is, I love what they're complaining about, but I didn't want to complain. I want to do something about it. So me and my partner got together day. Yeah, I don't

want to pronounce your last name. Yeah yeah, that ship is like that ship is like German last not see what I mean, But I said, yo, let's let's let's let's you know, were interview care us one nigga said, oh yeah, I think it's crazy. And you know where we did t MFU right right, And I'm like, because it ain't about if a niggat got a project out. You know what it's about praising what the funk up loving, right,

praising what the fun he grew up love. And then they gotta bid on because you know that's not hip hop v right to him? You know how when you still play translations final, I want to know what happened to all the tracks we did, you know how, like your relative and queen come to Jersey and ship and you're missing something of you the old school she got the hard d Yeah it went to funk. You tell that ship right now? I don't know you have my

favorite records together? Yeah, told me and me and planting to have a mixtape together, like hell, you found a bit up the door Jan and Dex and next I know, look, Nori, here's a nothing thing. You talk about my life, y'all, just the k life. A bottom got damn bottom bottom break this is Apple. It's already l pals later. Oh we'll cut that translation up, Nori. We have a Jersey queen's connection and Kay's family. We got south Side Jamaica queens. And then we have left Frock. Yes you do so, y'all.

We love that'sy. Then my baby mom was South side of Pepper from some covering. You know she's Jamaica. Let's get into your baby baby. Tell you something? Should we tell you? Straight on trade from Kingston, Jamaica and Jamaica Quezy. Yeah they no think Kenney Kenny Anderson got one about I've been missing up about when the pepper come out? What do you think? But yeah, that's the show stop

for eight two eight. Okay, So now i' three real gym when it was at three school not listening eight lady, Kay, So now listen, I came out like yeah, I was gone right seventy seven and we're born in seventies. So when I'm looking at female. Not really, I'm a young to you. I'm not where at your store, I said, damn, Kenny Anderson, that's been the brother dressed the hip. I said, it's old for me. I'm seven years old. Was my right. I swore I was gonna marry one of the motherfucker's right.

I ain't even I've never met someone Pepper. You never let pepper or when y'all at tom all night man, we're doing this ship, come out there, go backstays play, come with us, got damn brands like we're doing translation moment and on them dressing board when I go out and do you just talked to him? Take the stuff it's in everything, change numbers all that. But you smashed a lot of a lot of you put my busineses you out to a lot of It's yeah, motherfucker took me.

You're never get you loosen, got damnit smash you lotzation nigger only seven years. Got damn it over seven years and never might have broke the beckon in the mother fucking magnum condoms like just to have them and shouldn't use them. The god damn wetting name, damn all six kids I got one of them, tell us what magnus man with the wet my sick kids. I wanted them that part, that part ain't no more, ain't no mistifous splashing over the station boarders, just this ross splashing, you know,

don't about you got some ice over that? Yeah, we got ice. Nigger. I'm like, tell me where the hell is the song? And when you're going to email? Like the three of them we did. We had like two n there niggas here, politician, these two niggas. I'm telling you, you'll take over all the Spanish world, motherfucker take over there. And y'all niggas is good niggas good niggas. Did you still like answer my ship? No? No, no, I got I got a KG. Did you ever picture yourself as

top five producer of hip hopm all time? Maybe? Cheating the man? Ever is where you go? And he always was like that man listen to listen to all the niggas. They stopped rating ship because I took it personal and I went to funk up to their little rating spots and said, for real, y'all disrespectful and showed him the top that I think with it and no, and he

ain't on there. You motherfucker's stop doing this ship if you ain't gonna keep it funky, tell that part you City of Salt top five he is, goddamnit ain't number one in my motherfucking ship. So that's what I'm saying. The funk up. That's all the matter that part. No, I don't go for number one way, ain't sorry, I don't look sitting. I'm gonna tell you something that really matters. Because all these lists exists, the mother fucking publishing tracks.

That's what really matter. Y'all can debate all you want. Sitting and got them barber Shound sign and look at the work I ever. Look at the translations to numbers, games, numbers don't lie. Look at motherfucking any food to anything. Loyalty has no exploration date. Look at Norty by Nature. You see produced and written no matter what anybody shared from that ship. Family that stays together get paid together

for life. We got all out of publishing and producing together, no matter if whoever wrote or produce anything, we got it all. So how did you back, Pepper? How did this go down? Nigga? Let me tell you how I got because you know, like anybody was like all out of statement. You are like, I can tell you that has poppar out of first after the AID tests and it didn't happened, and pop ran up. Ah, Man, I want this all about different things that happened with him anyway.

I know I didn't. I would tell you about hopped on him once. Nell did you try? Everybody got to try Janet, it's Janet. Come on, I never got out to close. Come on, Jane right, wife, tell me Janet got damn it. You don't choose j Jane, you better get your wife and tell you that. You know. I'm just plash. I'm just I'm just trying to get out of here. I try to get out of here. He said, Can I get you? Said one Jane, No, but she like get But how was it meant you met? Janet?

Tell us in minutes, Yo, it's we met, Mike. Tell us to the Mike. We're gonna do Janet, Mike or Michael, Jane man, whatever we can. Jane it first, Janet first, Let's go trash. Put me on the planet. Damn it, just stop it, man. She always was walking in the right spots to the spots to the club up that I was in the back and it's kind of dark and stuff, so we focused. Sometimes you ain't got a criminals,

I'm not. I'm telling you that's your limitation and I ain't telling Nona's ship and they go, you man kind of did and we kept well, you know when we're done, man and cool and that's all. And that's all I got, said my lord, Yeah, coom By, Yeah, my lord. It's not saying I got Man five out. We just made it out right. Just let me tell you something. Nordy

by Nature. Y'all had a lustrious life that you met the Michael Park They said that Michael, you know, I was going in and I'm sorry, but let's go straight into it because your bid says he's a cool All the time we met Mike, it was like here another triple O G and what everybody? Please give it up for the Nomber. We love mc having D rest movies, so y'all, havy D sension was the reason we met Michael Jackson. Story Have did the Space James Heavy D

Peace Happy Day? Have did the soundtrack to Space Jam to Michael Jackson a Little Bucks Bunny movie, right all right? So he was out of the time I've never heard somebody described as Michael Jackson bugs Bunny movie and leave out Jordan's I respect, I've never listened in my whole the way it went down. So our manager cuting my teethest manager shot Kim. He would have real heavy, real real heavy. So he was out in Chicago with Have and he was shooting the video to the sound the

track space Jam. So it was halving Michael Jackson Jordan and he was doing all that. Shot Kim and this is the importance of Brandon. We always flooded our whole family with just naughty merch. So Shan Kim had on the black pilot dracket with the Naughty by Nature logo embroidered on it. Michael Jackson hit him, was like, hey, you know Nature, I know those guys. I was like, Yo, I made teeth them here? What hell? I like this guy, I can get them out here, yo. Mike made the call.

Shot made the call of us, and we flew out the Chicago and Michael, yeah, we got We've got what you call up. Oh wasn't that We were there all day, were filled for hours. Half a second, Who wasn't that naughty? And then another shot wasn't that, that's what we call it. Who was? But we did get him, and that's when we got like the monkey. The monkey. You those just

gotta pay anority by name your boxes. Remember the noority boxes. Yeah, yeah, that motherfucker was shopping and I don't know we're gonna do business. But these I called the Michael Jackson gloves though, because I'm bosing this is there. This is how I'm bringing in the new year, that Jackson gloves. If you give me those, I'm not gonna wear those because way too many niggas I shot. That's gonna feel disrespected. Yea, always shots gonna be like what I'm speaking around. I

don't boxing up teaching my wife. I love him. I'm very hard and we are together forever. But I can't win those in public because if I windows and queens think it's gonna be like that, the shot you. So it's out here where you're Yeah, it's big, ready to be good. But I said it right that I kill about I listen living limit. You give you a story about Big. Give me a story about Big. This is

my story about Big. If you follow my Instagram at Uncle, then rock um deep down inside, I have a picture one of those polaroid joints that they pronounced slide joining a biggie. This was when he was first coming out, very early nineties. Party of bullshit. Before that, it's somewhere in there. But somehow me and Viggie were down at Howard University and we was fucking with DJ ron G. Tell you this, that's the classic mistake is and all of that ship. But dude, Ron, he was doing a

party down in Howard. Somehow me and Big was down there and Ron needed help with fucking crates show. His crew wasn't even right. We were already rolling as naughty, so I had crispy tims. If you look up this picture, being had little nasty TEMs on. He was he was still in that he was same, but he was in the stage with that first joint man. And we we helped ron G carry his fucking crates and that Howard joint. So this me and Big and Big knew who I was,

and we knew who Big was. He came to one of our shows, but Big Lincoln up and then once we helped ron G, he was like your veilans take a picture, So we took the pictures snapped up twice. He took one and then he gave me one and he wrote down his beeper and his fucking home number on the joint. Hold on, time out, make some noise, prevent having bige. That's all story. That's that's all. People number.

You know, you listen whenever I think I said people number, you just gotta just got the funk up and just listen. And it's big hand right they broke that ship. Give me a big story, all right. Well this was like nineties five nine six where it was like tension between East West big Bro we're on tour, Noughty and bad Boy at the way time out. I just let me just let me just spine. Let me tell to think

about this. The shot in New York back this fucking time back, blooding on East West, all that bad bad boy and well for the first three for the first made your tour, uh translation, for the first three four days, I'm like, yo, man, were in sant Yoh, y'all be at yo. Why don't go out to these parties? Muja did me and men? She need to buy my brother? Hold on, were you're saying this? She took him out? We're saying the same hotel, but they never left the

hotel room I ever leave it. Relationship with man, mad fucking back. Why you're the motherfucker They like it's the camp. The doors open there in the hotel, never going nowhere. Why don't never go to the party when the man shot let me kid this goddamn phone because we had the phone like that. And ship is long, you know, sek on and like, man, those jo hey what man who trick? Oh yeah, this ship. I'm like, we're parking

o right here? You're like, what's roping? Like? Man, these niggas, I'm I don't toll with these niggas, man, These niggas don't even want to go a party with me and nothing. Man, these niggas like yo, man, what the man telling bit? And Sugar like telling bit. Niggas go out with ship when you're gonna suck up your money, you brother, tip and family anything, hell and all the part, gonna make some brackage. You're gonna buy him out, he's gonna make backage.

We're gonna make money. Got tell him up, nigga go out and there I don't speak. And niggas came out there just coming out with the shiny suits every show like after that, the niggers came out with timbo boots and noughty boxes. He ties on with those shots to join your mafia. I got big, I got big, and Kim Little drop your mafia going on the hood with me, stripped joints and ship all of us and them up fucking night with them up here. You still ain't come

back with that last fucking sack and nigger? Are you got real stick? Look at mama. Come. You know there's old gaw slap box. You're that big bag. Would be nice to get to get pump daddy. You know that's my melitary. That's how we talk. Slap back Daddy, I know. Welcome to play a new podcast network featuring radio and TV personalities talking business, sports, tech, entertainment, and more. Play it at play dot It. We're back to Drink Chips Radio with rap for R and DJE. So let me

end this conversation with this. I want a big all twee you brothers up. And I want to say that again. Like I said in the beginning of the interview, when they said we're gonna get naughty, I said, Yo, who are we gonna get? Because sometimes Naughty can be kout different configuration. Mother, my mother, I'm cool. Yeah, yeah, keep me. Translation made me listen, let me. I'm gonna tell you that. So I'm gonna tell you what you got. I'm gonna tell you what you got, and everybody and the social

media and all of this ship. I'm tell y'all what y'all got. When Naughty we had the problems a couple of years, my two brothers they went up to the Breakfast Club and they did an interview. So ever since then, this is the first interview three of us, this kind of yes, So your brothers are doing your thing. I understand what you're doing with your past, understanding the platform, understand all of that. I understand advertising. I'm coming through with the sneaker coup. We we're gonna put up that

sponsorship money. And when do the right once once to the pool and let's rock and let's rock out. Man. It's about creative. It's about being created. But it's got the tools nervous about being creative. It ain't about blaming nobody. No translation, hes gonna be in the office with them

and the mayor though you know, the warriors. When we do this whole movement and all this ship we all rolled together deep and we're gonna have anybody in this motherfucker and anything I take it to the station, they're gonna play it. Translation all the fans, All right, there is the next y one because KG got all the beats and y'all, I'll copy of the fucking tracks that we fucking did everything. Can we really get back to there before we closed out? I got tired in five

very right, here we go. The fans know what the fans gonna kill us? When is the next real Naughty by Nation? And listen, let me just tell you something. Don't cut me off because I know you're about to cut me off. Cut spad. Listen. We need the next no everybody needs and we aware of technology, so we're aware the reason why music sucks now because back in the days when we made music, don't cut me off, nobody. The reason why, the reason why the music was so

great back then is current. I couldn't send you an email now, big them raps um with some ships, the rails, they't want to bring them, so you had to go to a person's studio to make that music. Just listen, this is why music is disposable nowadays because evening what do you recorded on is disposable. Back then, you couldn't. You couldn't throw that dolf away. That niggles a dolf translation a little norm he knows doesn't he wants us to come to QUEENSA No I want y'all. You know

we translation didn't want email ship with a mansulation. I don't want. I'm I don't even known first translation translation, you have not to come to the Yeah, I'm not unless KG is producing. That's what I believe. And somebody say that and that's and that's real. So some people will argue, if you hear wool Chain record and visit and produce it, it doesn't sounds. But I don't care if PRESI don't produce it as long as around that man draining put it together that it was greatly. That

makes sense. It's different. It's the brand that fix what it does. That's like the original Eagles where the hip hop Eagles. Yeah alright, no, he's the bad nig. What can we tell you about? You know this man, let's

go Eagle fans gonna trying that Eagles? Do you want to be the hip hop rolling not just make trench being the drug is nigger in the building and night every night it does always making to put it on you and the run the show and said, yeah, I'll stick at the shoe calls traps and he drunk it at me. He wont but he I'm usually he won the right there. Yeah, yeah, puff to ship. Listen you want to because no, we we used to have a

little chalice like the nick of that one. But Puff came here like a trophy, a trophy and he took every drink from every table. But we don't have the foul and ship that we had before because we were your limitation right, so and he took it with him. He's a foul every alcohol in there. And question, has this motherfucker here that I know all this goddamn time for these day games, has this motherfucker ever wanted the drunk as motherfucker ship? I'm seeing that I wanted with you.

And then you got kicked out of the hotel because I told you couldn't smoke. Remember translation, you remember translation translation. You didn't get kicked down because you didn't get kicked down in front of you. Ain't gonna told you what ain't out freebody said you didn't miss me about emotion. You listen, niggasas remember this to you. I made you miss your lately because you was in the room smoking when me. You just told me not to smoking. I

gave you your week and you row. Can I leave Pisa? Yeah, in the realm smoking piece and I was smoking. Yo. No, No, I told you're not in smoking a room? Yeah? Why you was said, what did you tell me? You said I smoked? Why you ain't here smoking with me? You were smoking the room you think would be there? And then really stands to this charged me. I said, I told you so. Yeah, like I was at money because I was just telling them they'll tell him. So you

kiss the little a little story. Listen. Then trash kg On behalf of hip hop, d j ar Fan drink Champs as it sounds drained, Rich Blanco, Mr Lead, you know Sunny d b T. You know, pray for DC Twin everybody, you know, all my people, hot Key and Green. What I'm saying, we want to salute you for what you did to hip hop for raising us. Most of us wouldn't been raised right if we didn't know that there's other people's pussy out there. So relax. It's not sure.

Pussy people. Other people don't get you. Who would have never been raised right if we didn't have hip hop. Who would have never been right without your music, without your contribution to hip hop and hip hop you And we're gonna salute you that and we're gonna continue keeping

hip hop going because that's what we do. And I don't know, I puff gave us this to kill U with this heavy it's very heavy top to kill you didn't give me that last bag that this is your Yeah, that's your eternal lout for him the anniversary pool party that up flat Rock. But I could never thank you brothers, Mark Kim Green, thank you. I will never forget you for yeah something in hill, Yeah yeah, why don't you six?

He starts high school to the mic night six, I'm high school talege show, right, you had KG and trash about to wreck it down. Sound system goes out. The me who was the host of the talent show starts beat boxing. Tress just go and and I started dancing. Let's see you beat box for the for the record, just for the record, let's just let's just water. When you're talking about like that hip hop hip hox to see it go down to nine six in front of

my eyes. We went to high school again, high school together, so the scene goes out in front of my eyes. The next thing, you know, four years later, I'm here, O p P. I'm at Irving, Texas because Jersey too right be started. We went to the high school together. Hi. Yeah, that was middle school together. The first time I heard of a careress one. I walked in the home room class and he's holding an album like this is the middle school. Then out and you got fake blue eyes,

right fake? Let me tuck those out, n real d We said, we went to translation, went to school when nig you say, y'all fake texting? Yeah, we're gonna go commercing fat three five years. See you have to we don't have to talk funny. Save never been right, nigger.

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uh yeah yeah. You see, they hate to see us win that, so I know they got some issues. You see, they this is win that. So I heard they got some issues issue. You see, they hate to see us win that. So I know they got some isshoes issue. You see, they ain't to see us win. And so I heard they got some Yo. What's filling back lyddy? I feel like ninety eight again. Real gonna love it and the fake gonna hate again. Other niggas fright and I can't like they make it more than me. Me

and dollar meds and jeans. I dressed accordingly Oga male upgrade from Ogan original sliming hip hop. They all owe me. My city needed me. I read a hold of the media is killed it on the music and started killing the media with the rental Phil in the car, the TV that the nigga is sick like they rumbert kill me up. He didn't hate to see us winning, so I know they got some issues issue. You see, they need to see us winning. So I heard he got

some shoeste to see us winners. So I know they got some maybe shoes you hate to see us winn? And who I heard he got some who you know? Ellendn't really riddle me that. Oh my real niggas know where I'm mentally any wad drinking pain. What's the issue with the old hella boom in the hills? Well physically, then with the hugs conversations, just wrap them all. Think I'm so good. I'm just staying the facts all the cool. I'm debating with him that which ry then out of

town weep hating on the neck. Can they tell me, y'all a start. I'm just trying to get these cars. They're just telling me to right. I'm just trying to move the hard wet pants and the rolling y'all do. But let's see, y'all start out the mouth like I'm blowing on the cart to see. I know they got some issues issue. You see, they hate to see us winning. So I heard they got some issues. Issue. You see, they hate to see us winning. So I know they got some issues. Issues. You see, they hate to see

us win. And I heard they got some isshoes and yo, they hate to see us winning. So I heard we got some missiones, no pro they tripped. I'm a bloom like some tissue Ryan with the old G sixty by that hip like a whole D niggable. I'm an old D shooting for fat. But like your Noblie, I don't believe nothing. Motherfucker's gotta show me shine level up, but the streets want to owe me to keep it to myself.

I did three from my code. The nigga told nigga things with the giving goal, grease on Chris Hi, guys on sick go and I let my ship go. Didn't know what it's hitting fork herd. What I get it for? Imagine what I'm sitting it off. You need to hate to see us winning, So I know they got some issues issues issue. You see, they hate to see us winning. So I heard they got some issues issues, issues, issues. You see, they hate to see us winning. So I

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