Episode 5 w/ KRS-ONE

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hold on, hold on, because the intro was crazy. This guy right here, like listen, listen, um, they have the they have the Godfathers, and this man is directly like my father in lyrics, like in in style, and I directly try to be like this man right here, and I send out the APB, try to make it happen. Let's pick up a Hakim Green off top channel last

squark baddi is Um, we love you Hakim. But we got the blast Master, we got the teacher, we got the father directly templar hip hop all that, the Master, the dude who made it cool to learn earned in music and still be entertained. You could be smart and you could still dug it the funk out, yo. The other day, I'm gonna be honest, I'm watching right Along Too.

And at the end of Right Along Too, my kids they are eight and they are six, and they sung, they said, whoa, whoa, this is the sign of the police. And at that moment, I knew I was a great father. I knew at that very moment I was a great father. When my kids knew the sign of the police. We have the one and only legendary. You can't say hip hop without caress One in the building. Drink man, Oh my god, we are yo. You know what the crazy ship is. I'm gonna start the interview offs like this.

When I was locked up in a juvenile detention center, I had a CEO who was taking care of me, right, he was, you know, holding me down, and he could have snucked me weed. He could have snucked me liquor. He could have snucked me books. But I wanted that criminal mind. This is real ship. This is you know, how much of a big caress fan. That's what the track I wanted to do is. I'm the biggest caress One fan. Man, Let's just make some noise for him

being in the building. Come on, come on, come on, cheers, cheers, yo, yo, we got the fun up noise. Make it so blast master caress One. How does it feel to be in Miami? How long you've been coming out here? Man? Don't even yo, man, I've been coming to Miami since like eighties seven. We were coming up here, man, struggling, trying to be heard, and there was only a few places that actually like

embraced us. Philly was always right there. Philly feel it Delfy, just the whole Philly that like, we went from New York to Philly. That so let me stop. So you think that New York artist is that like the first marketing? That's that is for me to like, Philly was the first, then Connecticut and and see you look how you said that Philly was the next, and then Connecticut. Connecticut is right on top, right there next to the Bronx. Philly

would get it first. Philly would hit you first if you did New York and Philly, Connecticut yonkers all up, Boston was trying to see you. Maybe some of the South like that. So going down to a nine five man was like, I mean big up to v a North catallax South Carolina. It's it was sort of like the rights of passage. You had to get out of New York, go down each city, each state or nine five, and your final victory was Miami if you made it down man, See this is one MCS was real. Uh

straight up, you have to do clubs. Let me take you to the nine Let's come around ninety two, that's what I'm Somewhere around nineties, right around the college was just start and he had a thing called the Temple and even before that, even before that, Oh yeah, mother Superior. Wait wait wait, actually I got you know what nerd war is. No, he's this guy who interviews people. He brings out props that would remind you of stuff. We're okay, this is what I got. Let's make some noise. Having

autographed too, it's authentic, so you put that on. It was a show supposed to be at the Spot underground compound and it got shut down by the cops and we moved it to Zulu headquarters. There was no that a c wasn't on. He took the people were faking in the eyes and he started throwing these balls. That was crazy. That was ninety three. I was in high school at the least at the least. Right, well, let's started right there. That's way he's been coming to Miami

since then, since then, breaking it down, crushing Miami. And it wasn't the hip hop scene out here back then. Back then Luke was the man out here. Two Live Crew was straight destroy in the South, like there was nothing else really happened, to be honest with you, But there was always that boom bap element in in. I mean just I just have to say Florida, because you know from Miami all the way up to what Tallahassee, even even Gainesville, Jacksonville, all that's boom bap that that's

a hardcore up there. But Luke, But there was that divided for us in the city between the base scene and scene. That's right, There wasn't divide. I mean it had its own audience, you know what I'm saying. It had its own We've seen a lot as a New York thing, right, but we were trying to build that identity for ourselves. But I think it was way smaller. But I think the New York thing was way smaller.

Two Live Crew. Look look that whole sound. So you're saying from the beginning when Two Live Crew came, the South immediately accepted them as opposed to new in New York, you had to be hot in New York. No, actually, you go to Philly. Wait a minute, the second part is true. Yes, you had to be hot in New York first to go to Philly. With the exception of like Tap Money three times, Dobe Uh, Steady b even Jazzy Jeff Fresh, Prince Uh, they blew up in Philly

and convinced New York what it was. But you have um back then, the base scenes. I'm trying to think of dudes that were not so popular, but Miami had a base scene that let me and then with these dudes with so Luther Campbell and Two Live Crew was on top of that, they came up out of that scene. They didn't really invent it, but they was just sort of the pot feel the ones that that was doing it, and Luke was just I went to one of these concerts one night. You know, you wouldn't believe what was

going on. And then on top of that, what makes it really really hip hop on on on that level is that Two Live Crew was was the ones that were dragged into court on obscenity charges and had they lost that case, Rock would be sounding a whole lot. Let's make some noise for that happening. Even when you're

rolling the blunt man, stop and clap your hands. You had the black mass in the building, right, So, UM, you got that, you got that that thing, and I want to set up I play that play that real quick. I want to play something for you. One of the one of the greatest calls I ever got in my life. And um, it's set up past. It's Cool Hurt. What's up, brother, That's right, My brother was going on. Man, I just missed your call. Man, Man, I got you on speaking

for him right now. Man, let them Let them dudes know. Baby, let the dudes. No, you're the Gulf for the hip hop. Cool Hurt number one. That's right, baby, you're the original o G. That's right. Baby. You know I love you absolutely. You know I love you to death. Cool Hirk Man, you know what I mean. Not in w all right, baby, hold on, I'm gonna take this off of this SI for me. You can speak private, but yo, man, just let the people know one more time. This is my

Dyslexia album. Man, tell them niggas. You know what I mean. Where I got an album called Dyslexia? Man, thank you man. This this, this is the Godfather, Cool Hurt or the game speaking to your fucking assholes. Cool Hurt right here. And I'm the father and not the godfather. Secondary you the father the father? All right? My brother hold on, hit you right back? I Hurt, all right, hold on, hold on, hold on. So one day I got a call from cool Hurd, right, which is for me. I'm

a real hip hop guy. You know what I'm saying. I respect everything that came before me. And when Cool Hurd called me, I had called him something. I said, you're the godfather of hip hop. And I said it once and he let it slide. And then I said it again and he let it slide. But then the third time I said it, I said, Cool, let these motherfucker's no, you know, uh godfather hip hop? He said, Normy, hold on, let me stop you. I am the father. Do you agree with that statement? Yes, I totally agree

with the statement. There's there's huge debate on it, okay, because everyone wants to take credit for hip hop now for its origins. Uh, we call technically to be scholarly correct. Cool Hark is called the recognized father of hip hop, the recognized father of hip hop. We call him the father of hip hop. And the reason we call him the father of hip hop is because Bam called him the father of hip hop. Grandmaster has called him the

father of hip hop. Peewee Dance and Grandmaster Flash from this group and Crazy Legs called him the father of hip hop. Now, this is a family situation. All these guys, we all know each other and they know it, but you're there, younger home. Oh yes, no doubt, no doubt. Her calls me the son of hip hop because okay, let me break it down for me, right for me,

alright for me. When I heard her say that he was the father, automatically saluted that never and then I thought of Bambada as the godfather, and then I think view Rock Kim, Big Daddy Kane as the father's right and then then after that comes Wu Tang like where are your little cousins, Wu Tang, marb Deep the fat, Joe's the component, Noriega's the MLP. We're actually your son's direct like I don't know what Paul's I know this new generation, but you're actually our fathers like you Rock Kim,

Big Daddy Kane. And so I have to ask this question with that being said, with the name being like, how how is hip hop supposed to respond to the Bambada? Like how are we supposed to do that? From? I just don't know. That's why it's a generic question, which what what should we do? Because you're you're being our father. Whatever you say, I have to move accordance to it. Well, you know, with the first of all, controversy is not truth. What you want is truth right now? You want truth,

But truth is also not information. It's not gossip. It's not even conversation. For me, if you keep it hip hop, nothing could be taken away from Africa ban not just keep it hip hop, but if you want to dig in the dude's personal life and accusations it is being made and so on. Personally me personally, I don't give a fuck. Personally. Look if if somebody was harmed or whatever was done, whatever, y'all deal with that ship what

what deal with it? That? Don't stop hip hop? That don't stop with take away under history's history, but deal with you deal with that. That's personal. I don't you know, I don't even know what to sell past. You know, but even if you knew the facts, you know what I'm saying. A person like me, I deal with with dudes that are questionable all the time, not just if the accusation is right. I do I know dudes that

are doing You know what I'm saying. If you if you know anybody from prison, if you don't nothing to shout, you know anybody, if you live really in the hoods, you know shooters, you know, dudes running from the you know your man might have an open warrant on him right now, like right now, like you know what I'm saying. You know, I'm not judging these motherfucker's man, that's right here, Yo,

that's it now. What you do and your crime and your ship and your bullshit, whatever you're doing, that's on you. That's you, my g that's whatever you're doing. That's how I always dealt with it. I can't pick and choose. Hey, yo, this dude right here, I mean I was producing Justice album, right Who's crazy already came to Queen's Bridge by himself? Yes it is. Let's make some just like every change the subject too. I was talking, let's say the subject,

let's go. Yeah, but I mean he was on America's Most Wanted is. Let's make this is real hip This is real hip hop, shot man. Hip hop is in the world like everybody else, like every other culture. We in the world, politicians with bottom line is we we are humans. That humans, all humans. But now with that being said, right, what is your favorite MC battle Because I mean you don't have to, you can do with yourself if you want to. But what is your favorite

MC battle. To be honest with you, I mean, there's a lot this huge that I really what comes to the top of your head. The first one that comes to my head is freeway in cassidy for me. Let's make some noise, but caress one. No one's going on. Do you know what's going on in the streets? No, No, that that's I mean, it's an old battle. But if you talk about showmanship, you know, instant rhymes on deck right there? That was hot? Okay, um, I gotta ask you about what's up? What what? How did you like?

What did you like? It was it? It isn't your even battles? I think I think it gave both of them credibility and what wait? Well, because for me as an m C, like like when people say top five, okay, everybody got their top five. Everybody, you know what I'm saying. But if you ain't battle, if you ain't did tours, if you ain't putting no hits out, if you ain't put somebody else on or came from a legacy that

was wild, you ain't even nowhere near the top five. So, dudes, is like, I'm looking for young cats today to really rise up to the criteria. First, first, with your battle you say you dope, bring it right now, because his nigg is like me out here, like straight up, I stay hung okay, stay hungry. You claim you hungry, you claim who you know, I'm the man, I'm I'm in this and now today with social media, you could claim

anything and everybody. So with Draking Mills, to me, it gave them the credibility that they needed for even me to look at them as real mcs. I like both of the lyrics. By the way, Drake. I think it's underrated in terms of because maybe he's doing the pop thing or whatever, but his lyrics is still dope from a MC perspective. No let me, I don't. I don't want to cut you off. But there's been allegations that he had help on his lyrics. You writers, you, how

do you feel like this? I'm very curious that this look because but because you do come from a day where people are by um writing bismarck lyrics. This Mark was upfront about it. Ice Cube said, um he's he said ice Cube the rhymes that I say, and to me, he was one of the most So how did you feel when you found out that Drake might have had some help. Was that doesn't disturb me at all. It

diminishes him in front of those that write their own lyrics. Okay, now, those of us to split the raw from our own heart. You you really got to step up and come up to the plate on that level. But we're talking about m C and as a whole art. Talk about rappers a whole art. No, if you got a dope writer that can make you sound like something, got ahead and get with dude. The issue is writing. This is the issue writing. Don't rhymes. I don't give a funk where

it comes from. Writer whoever. Some of the dopest dudes, and I'm not gonna call no names rhymes. You said, Yo, it's like this secrets in hip. Okay, his news that dude right for them, that's not a problem. Not me. I never had the privilege of anyone writing for me. Okay, I I you know you're too smart. Let me tell you. Let me tell you. If Rock Kim came to me with a rahm, I say that ship this is crazy. I say that this is crazy. I need to believed. You have to listen. Drake sent me to check. I

have just saved just saved you. You are that cool in every community drinking k r S has set it on a drink Chess podcast that he's okay. No, I'm okay. Look not it real spinn is it right? They rhymes? It will never be okay with real spins it right there? Okay, but that's our lane, that's our category. That's a level of excellence that you have to get to. Okay, now,

but my issue is right, Look, here's the opposite. Some dude write your rhymes and they whack and you say them ships and way I heard dude say what ROMs that they didn't even right. That's corny, Okay, but if you got a real shooter with you, dude, it's right and raw ship. We'll make sure he paid a brother, make sure he gets some credit at some point in your career. Let's say that ship, say that dope ship. Hip hop needs dope lyrics. We don't need dope. Mcs understand,

we need dope lyrics. We need to write. I don't care where it comes from. Your mom's could write you some ship. That ship is dope right, most lyrics, you're saying, it's the vessel. It's just about mcs all the vessel. Look, if you really get down to it, I don't write my own lyrics. God writes my lyrics, goddamnit. So if you think about it, none of us are writing our own lyrics. We all any m C that writes his lyrics.

You know, you're sitting there with the pen, the pad or whatever, your phone, whatever it is, and you hum your ship out. You hear that ship from someplace else. You're like criminal man and dj is don't even start with that. You as producers, you hear the beats before you hit the thing. You know what you're gonna do, before you do it. You hum it out, you bang it out, but you hear something. So no one is original, No art is original. We are all being influenced by

everything and everyone. The corny motherfucker is the one who doesn't say, yo, my g wrote this. Give it three years, four years. You know you made some success after you got on spicking man. Acknowledge, acknowledge your dude, man, Yo, this is what it is. Hit him with his cash. You he know, you know he helped you get what You gotta go. Hit him with his cash. Make sure he's good and his family is good. That's respecting hip hop.

That's big respect now in this day, Like a lot of the o G s, they'll sit back and they'll be like, you know, I don't like this. Do you listen to what's going on now? Or you know they had their chance, they're over, They're finished that they had their chances. That ship is over. That's just funk. All that old school show, all that's just done. You do listen to the new school. Yeah, I listened to everything. Okay, I listen to everything. Okay. I was just with my

man l A. Sunshine. He put a book out. He was just kicking it up in the Bronx. That's my G right there, Komo D that's my G. Busy b no doubt. These are my dogs, no doubt. But let me let me let me see Joey Badass right now, let me see you know. Um yeah, you know what I'm saying, like like I don't want to call names, but I'm just saying let me just you know, but no,

I listened to every thing. Man. Yeah, I really appreciate um you having that attitude because now I am They called me a o G. Now thirty years you know, hip hop was born and what Yeah, seventy three. I was born in seventy seven. So now they're calling me a O G and I want to sit back and I want to give back to this life. So we we were doing this podcast. I want to get people like you a platform to say whatever the funk you want to see any time. You know, it's okay, we

don't get, we don't care, get another drink. So this has been one of my um uh accomplishments in life. You know, people got bucket list. You know, You've always been a person that I've learned from, Like, whether you know it direct or indirect. You ain't even asked me to pass the blank some foul people, but it's okay, I understand from kindle, so I'm not looking so you directly,

you directly. Somebody said to me the other day. It said Jay Z and Jay the Kiss raised me with their bars and they fucked me up because I was like, damn well. Then I always told people if you take care ress one and then you take a little bit of bis markey and a little bit of Granddaddy are you, that's when you get in all. But you noticed I never took none of your styles. But I was as yeah,

that's that's three totally different people. But that's who made me because you taught me that black is beautiful and be yourself. BIS taught me. BIS taught me life Ain't that serious, homie, have some fun. And then Granddaddy you told me how to be exact opposite of him because he was so smooth, Like I feel like Granddaddy you was like the cane that never I'm gonna take it. My first interview ever smoking, you know, big up hockey in Green. My brother, my brother. Another legend is in

the building. Swark matters and let's just get into that. Man, How did swark maddism come about? Damn Well, first of all, Hawk was a was a school teacher. No, I did never knew that let's make some noise to school with the teacher. Okay with the teacher. So he was one of the many teachers and professors I was rolling with about ninety three. Hot rolled up and said, yo, So I took he kept coming to my lectures. I was doing lectures around, so he kept coming to the lectures.

So I said, you know, you look like you am sick. It look like you know you get that back there. Yeah, you just started that's rights and I said, you know, you look like an m C. He was like, why how did you so make a long story shot? I heard him. I loved it, but I said, that's solo MC. Thing not gonna work. We need two people. This is like das Effects was hitting nice and smooth. They were signed to Yes, well technically to to my wife Simone

was running Front Page Records. Technically k Arrest was with the label Channel Live Mad lion Um for a minute,

even Fat Joe. But but we was closing the label at at the closing the company, the management company at the time when Joe just started to blow, We was just coming down on on on that level, same thing with excuse me, priz and and no not before they would have oh yeah, actually the refugees, it was just Prize and to sign yes we we We did some of their first shows, you know for no note no that was no no, no. We wasn't in no position whatsoever to deal with them. They they you can white

Coulf used to pull out a guitar. He still does it in the middle of it. He still doesn't. He's just started out like you know, it was like you know, you got ahead and uh, but but it was dope. So anyway, we got in the studio, and you know, I grew up in a herb culture. You know what I'm saying. I grew up in Flatbush, Brooklyn Church Havnue right there and he Rasmus High School, wing Gate High School,

shout out to Prospect, the whole nine. So I grew up there in the seventies when you were born seventies, I was in the parks. Memory. The reason we went in Brooklyn, and you're trying to get is that's going on our game. So there we was in Flatbush. So I grew up in in in herb culture and not from the point of view like are we just gonna smoke mud. I was with with Rosters and the Ethiopian Orthodox Church. We had the Bible open. Dudes was smoking

towards the east. Childie burned down roam. Every time the child is burned, you had to say, yo. We was like in that culture for real. So it was like I grew up with like no problem, like yo burned apart. Why does no big deal? One moved up to the Bronx when I became homeless like an one or two. So that story is true. Oh yeah, no doubt about four years. That's how I met Scott Larrock. Uh he was a social worker in the shelter. But we'll get back to that. Uh. So I grew up in the culture.

So for me, Peter Toash since nineteen seventy one was yelling for the legalization of marijuana. Since seventy one. Everybody know that. You know, the judges are smoking, the cops smoke. The doctor's been saying, this is the safest plant. In fact, this is the healing of the nation right here, all times, kancers, you name it, herb is the healing for that. But now you got this tax issue, and you got this dudes that don't want to give up their power. They

get more money and more power selling it illegally. You don't you really don't want the government selling weed. You really don't want that because the idea is that it's gonna get whacked. It's like whatever the government put they they can't even teach English correctly, like you know what I'm saying, Like anything that the government puts his hand into, it starts to get sterile, it starts to get waged.

You don't have no complication wordered down. So dude is like, no, we want to grow that ship right there in Mexico, right there in Afghanistan, right there up in and now Colorado, Seattle. They just went rogue with it and just said, you know what, We're just gonna do it. And I think it was done for the kids in the area because they're not locking their kids up, you know what I'm saying. They're not gonna do that. They rather change the laws than see their kids in the family go through that.

That's why I think it really got legalized. You could cite medical lists or medical that, but really it's it's a it's an issue of going to prison. Families have been ruined by just smoking a joint or having herb on you. This is a plant that grows and in the world. Like how is the government like even allowed to tell you how you should think? Like that's to begin, Like like if I smoke button, I'm like, yeah, I

feel great on this. Why are you telling me? I don't like like like the use of the word nigga for instance, same ship, that's my nigga right there. I know what I'm saying, nigga, I got three pH d s. Nigga, I write books, nigga, what I know, what the funk I'm saying. But now, black people ain't supposed the thing. We're not supposed to have governance over our own mouth, over our own thinking. So if I tell you, listen, when I say my nigga, I'm talking really mean my brother.

Listen to how I say it, my nigger, that's my brother right there. Now, I just told you what it is. The problem is there's no law in the United States made by black people that white people are bound to respect. Imagine we follow all a laws, what lord they follow of ours? There's no Latino brother to kings. I said, look, this is what helps Latino people. Right here, y'all gonna fight. We want black whits everybody. You're gonna follow our laws.

We we follow the Constitution, Should we follow state ordinances? All that's white law. But here's now the Native American law while we're not. Nah, this country is not built on following anybody else's law except their own. And when it comes to marijuana, it becomes an issue of freedom of thought, like this is how I think. Do you have the right to tell me what state of mind I should be into? Like, no, this is the state

of mind that I feel I should be. And as a matter of fact, the U. S Constitution, it's federal law to be happy in the United States, the pursuit of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. So if you get happiness, that's illegal. If you're sad and depressed in the US, you broke federal law. Wow, you broke federal law. The government should be doing. The Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. The spirit of it is all about liberty, justice, freedom, happiness for all. The pursuit of

happiness is law. Welcome to Play, a new podcast network featuring radio and TV personalities talking business, sports, tech, entertainment, and more. Play it at play dot In We're back to Drink Champs Radio with Rapper and R and d J. Then, so I'm gonna change it up real quick. Come on a crazy hip hop story. As you went to the Palladium and you threw P M. Dawn off the stage, I gotta get this story. Let's make some noise, but I gotta story. Yo. That's when, like you, you've been

my hero. But like it's like that's when I made my choice from Malcolm and Martin. It was like Martin, like I still think Mary was killing people at night when he went like I think he still think Marrow was a shoot up, Like I still in my heart, in my heart. But but Malcolm, Malcolm was like, straight up, I'm gonna shoot you back. So when Chris, I'm very

I feel like I'm honored. So I felt like the minute you threw p M down on stage is like, yes, he could teach me and he'll still that's exactly what I wanted. That's makes it. So what did he do for you to throw him off the stage? I never really got that part of the story. Well, if you want the scholarly approach, approach, Okay, so dude, stop mouthing off in Details magazine. Okay, now this is now, this is the mood that we're in around this time. I

think we'll I forgot what year. This was nineties nine? No, no, no, oh, no, it was Kay, it's ninety two and it wasn't The Palladium was like, no, it was a small club in Manhattan. I don't remember that. It was one of the clubs that have like like car wash was it wasn't. That wasn't the name of the place. That's just the name of the night. The night right, it was it sound fast, so sound factory. Okay, wait a minute, now here's the

mood of it. Ninety two Okay, around the time, this is when, like you said, knowledge was just hitting hip hop. Hip hop was some ignorant as ship. Okay. Of course you did have run DMC, you had Houdini, you had those who were actually rocking on on a supposedly more intelligent level, especially run DMC with it's like that, and and all types of record societies got to salute you in the interview. Just do that. You know what I'm saying.

First of all, you know, that's who the viewer is to know someone is drinking of my time and drink. If you have traveled, you probably don't know where the funking my tie is. Okay, so this is you have. This is a Hawaii drink. People like, do you continue to drink? That's how you know making money for long? He wasn't Tahiti or something. I mean, I'm with this ship, yes, yes, yes, thank you for thank you for coming again, thanks for

opening your dog. Okay. So anyway, so anyway, so so the mood and nothing by the but I'm I'm good, I'm gonna get you later on. Look this this move this time is when I had just put out you must learn to stop the violence movement? Why is that? And then what's what's the joint? What's the joint? He got out? I don't know why. Why did he let well it wasn't just me, but he did say he tested more. Yes, ok. In his Details magazine he had said something pertaining to the fact. He said, n w

A is nothing. Chuck d is making mountains out of mole hills, and careis one is kiss. One wants to be a teacher, but a teacher of what? And for me it matter for me. But Chuck at the time was receiving death threats because of the controversy with Griff Griffin, the Jewish comments. Griffin made a statement, so public Enemy was the real heat in America. Okay, and this dude just sold like a million records, so he had a

really good year, you know, selling records. So he's just mouthing off like it's our time now these with these dudes, and you know these dudes is over. N w A ain't nothing, Chuck, the public Enemy ain't saying nothing. Arrest this. So I let it go for a minute. So this this was like over months. This is like the first no no, no no, no, this is over a period. And it wasn't just him. So I had also a little

running with X Clan around the same time. Me and X Clan, We're going back and forth with I mean, brother Jay was you know, calling me Captain human and that's the other well it wasn't that wasn't directed to, but it was them. Yeah, and if and if you're battling me even maybe it was so there was ex claim Bam chilled it all out back then, right, so he cooled it all out. We had a press conference and just kissed it made up. That was into that.

But there were others dudes in the hood. They for some reason, they felt people felt that if you come out advocating peace, knowledge, wisdom, I was coming with you that somehow we're supposed to be soft for somehow, well you're gonna run up or I don't know what it was. And I was naive because all my dudes was straight gangsters. Like I'm talking about, I'm trying to take dudes off the street, convince them, yo, we can go on tour. Man, you ain't gonna do this. You ain't gonna do that.

And dudes is like, Yo, if you can show me another way out of here, we could do this. So I'm trying to take these dudes and we're trying to leave the hood. Okay, we're trying to be positive. We got to stop the violence this movement and PM and

he is too calm. Yeah, okay, arrestient shot but bahbah bahba he just got finished with X clan with that um lynch mob had made a statement ice que self destruction, don't pay the fucking or this is after something something, this is after all, this is what it is stuff noise for him. You gonna we're gonna stop. And so for some reason they thought it was so in my corner and so PM doing is not from New York? Correct, No, what is he? No? I don't know what that was.

So I want to know what did you say something to him or just no, no, no, no happened? No, no, no, this is what happened. He so he made his allegation, and he made some other allegation on the radio or something like that about he was ready to battle or something or some kind of lyrical something. So I was like, great, let's just take it right there and and leave it there. You called my name out, What I got to do

with you? I'm doing my own thing over here. But he was riding a wave that was saying that groups like nWay, Public Enemy, Boogie Down Productions, they bullshit, and we ship right hood dudes is bullshit. This is the new ship. And so there was a big party for Tea Money back in the day's Tea Money was at your MTV raps host with Ed Love and Doctor big

party in in New York. Everybody in the industry was there, which is why we had two chances he was gonna play in somewhere he was he was gonna play with his own show. He was gonna even go there, or we could go right here to Manhattan where it was popping. And we said, you know what, let's do Manhattan because the industry is there. This is Tea Money's birthday party. We said, you know what, let's set it straight real quick.

Right there. A couple other dudes was in the They was called your kay arrest, ain't share what the fun that. They went in the crowd too. So when I got there, we were so amp like we was just so and when I say we are again. I don't want to call no names and put nobody on, but you know, just the color of the story and give you some background on it. So it was me, there was justice, Queen Latifa. Blatifa had her crew, naughty by nature, naughty

had they crew because he did naughty? And and them too, and them too well, no, no, no, it was just they were just there with me. This is the early days of flavoring, and this is this is the only days early Okay, they all kitty like, yo, when do we go? Oh? So you set it up? You know.

Let me just tell you something. I don't know if you know that is a trend now when a person has a beef with somebody, they booked them for a show and then when the person they come out, they'll do one or two songs and then the bum rushed the ship. But you set that trend. I don't know if you know that. Well, you know what, I don't know if we didn't mean to, but you set the trend. Let's make them knowing. Look, he so we went up.

It wasn't a set up in the sense that we knew we were gonna go there, but we knew we had two choices and it was like the day before, so we chose this one. So did you actually talk to him prior to no, No, no, you just waited for him, just waiting for As a matter of fact, the word had gotten out because I said, Yo, I'm here the battle. It wasn't about throwing nobody off stage because I'm still stop the violence. Yeah, that's why it

was a controversial. It was so when I jumped up, what happened was I think one of his boys or something. He had a little crew with hit me somebody with him. So when we jumped on stage, I remember super Cat. I can't even man, super Cat. He said, Chris, let me go on first month. Let me go on first. Before you do that, let me one first. I was like yo, and Cat went on, he did his thing. Then p M Down went on. We let him get through one song, and then we all jumped on the stage.

It's like, Yo, let's battle. Let's get it popping right now. So the whole crowd was like, oh, let's go. But something happened is man, somebody jumped out. It was like funk that I was trying to do some ship. It was like funk that we would all shoot this my naked that threw them nikes off the stage. That's what he wants that. No, it's not Troy. I just did that to I love Mechannon in New York. In New York.

This is a fact. I love, I love, I love mccannon like I love for Troy A. But when it happened, didn't met about this. Now you are so Immediately when I seen it, I said, this is I don't even think Troy. I have know that this originated from that very moment. Like if you disrespect and you come to the person town, you are liable to go off the stage and drinks is liable to throw at you, and you are allowed to feel uncomfortable. You started that trend, and I applaud you for that, sir. Come on one

more time, everybody but Bill. Being that we're on the topic of self destruction, stop the violence. One thing that I've always wondered, why do you think that we haven't been able to recreate those movements in hip hop? Because when that came out and um, we're on the same game came out those records, they were cool to the youth at the time. When we love those records, we knew the lyrics. I know you've been doing, you've done, You've continued to do those records, but they haven't touched

the pulse of the youth. Amore. No, hip hop is not conscious, Okay, Like people gotta understand that hip hop it's raw essence. That ship has gotta ghetto. Hip hop is ignorant. Okay, that ship is. I'm that and it's core. That ship is raw ignorance, man, just straight up. But all the best things come out of that ship. Okay, the darkness, that's where the best ship comes from. Out of this ship. Look, it takes feces to make things grow.

All were eating is ship. It's the most honest. So that's why I say go back to the movement when we did those records, stop the violence and self destruction. Look at the dudes that we're doing them. Those were street Okay, that's why, right, But now we all them dudes got shot up and went to jail. Nobody there's no one else, like maybe some younger kids today or maybe some of the younger artists today, if they care

about they come. You see, when we were coming up with gangs and excuse me, a cruise and stuff like that, we we cared about the community still, like we would still smack a young kid up and be like, Yo, you better go to school, motherfucker. I know your mom's you know what I'm saying. You would still get gangs like that. Today it's too individualistic, even due to a real gangsters. They're not really in the hood. They do they gangster on the phone. They pushing their thing through

twitterfferent mediums. Now, we didn't have none of this ship and we was coming up. I'm sorry to cut you off, but you know what the crazy shi it is. I just thought about it, like you know hip hop. We got our own little version of chipland circuits, like when you go so back then in the nineties, I'll say in nineties, I had to go to Virginia, I had to go to North Carolina. And when the dude told me,

y'all running the block, I had the choices. It was fifteen seconds, not fifteen seconds on the internet, but it's fifteen seconds that I had to say I believe him, fucking don't. We didn't have Instagram, like right now, dude, be like, you know, I run to the town, check my check them. That's don't fucking register with me, but you know what I'm saying, because they'll have a picture with like you know whoever is the popular popular people

at the time. But back then, in the nineties, I had to go to a town and I had to make a decision in fifteen seconds when the dude caught me and foot locker and said, your Nori, I run the town. Funk with me? And I had to start with sometimes this guy's lying. They're good, but a lot of the times they're official. You don't have time to go look at nowadays google them. When I go to a town. Now they'll be like, yo, go get what's such and such? And I gotta look at this guy's Instagram.

But it was real up and and your generations before mine. So how was that like? Just traveling the US back then? You had to know people, man, you had to really know. Like what you just said right there brought me back to like, Okay, tell your story Iced Tea. Okay, this is way backed Tea coming on the show. Shout out to Ic and Coco. This goes back to Darlene. Okay, so first, this is first wife on the cover of

Iced Tea. This is the realest dude ever. Okay, I don't know what y'all know about TV, and I don't know what that ship is. Okay, But in the eighties, ryme syndicate in l A. Okay, you had to know these dudes or you wasn't playing. You say, you couldn't even go. You couldn't even play, You couldn't even play. Date. Today you can book shows, you know, live national book is all good. No, back then, it was only dudes

were hustling. Did was booking rappers. So it was like you know, and and and and it wasn't never no ship. It was it was actually the time, we're always having a good time. It's like we left all the guns, all the all the the product, and she leave that ship down. Let's just go to Latin Corns and have a good time. Let's just go down to to you know, the rooftop or or whatever fever or whatever. Everybody just was like that. Everybody left their ship in the car

if there was any beef in the cup. You see dudes running outside today ride and that's the ship would pop off in this in the parking lot. But we had to know people. You couldn't just be a rap. There was so many rappers that were dope on the mic and even had hit records. But they couldn't tour. They couldn't travel, you know, because back then people were still getting robbed for they change just the idea of wearing a gold change. Well, you know what I'm saying.

I mean, you know, but look, I tell you this YouTube and it's for YouTube. It's for YouTube, you know, MC search um you know, far the third base. These were the only white dudes ever ever to walk in Latin quarters with big Gold, the original last quarters, because I went to Broadway. The original ladder quarters was Fort Street in Broadway, across the street from Popeye's Chicken. We used to eat that bullshit and go across the street and tear that ship down. Nothing but hustlers and then nothing.

And if your rhymes was whack, you did not make it out like you without insults or sneaking scheming on you, or like you had to have security walk you out like you. You know what I'm saying. And I took pride in that ship. I was like, fuck y'all, nakeds man, get the ship in right now. And they just loved, they loved my whole ship. And the point was was that we were spending conscious ship we called the Real

Kality Rap. Yo. Man, funk these these cops, this court, the ship we were going through fun the d A. These motherfucker's are corrupt. Let's talk about the government. That ship became Conscious rap all of a sudden in the nineties, the titles switched and now, all of a sudden, we were supposed to play this role of being conscious rappers who didn't fight or argue, and this ship and it was like, I never wrested, I'm wrestled. I never settled this in my own career. You know me. I consider

myself a god man, straight up all about peace. But this world the minute you say you're standing up for justice and wisdom, these dudes want to try to see you. And I love ship like that. I'm like, I'm God's like worst. I'm sent here to make you think like, Yo, that's that we know we can get that dude right there. I'm like, and ship changes in the come on, follow me down here and then see the skirt on in the skirt, come on down here, that's where I want to go. Camera. How do you back? How did it

be start with shan originally? Man? Was it the record or was it something on the side. I have to notice for my own because you're my favorite rapper. I don't know if you know that we wanted to. I hated you when you did the Bridges. That's gotta be clear with you. Let me tell you something. You made any any killers and Queens, you made them, because I'm

just tell you because you said we didn't. It's a horrible, it's a great, it's a great all day because you know why we had on Rights Island at that time was the toughest place. I mean, it was the hard chorus place to go. And if you was from Queens, you would just walk by and people would be like Queens right. And I don't know if you know if you started this, but you said I didn't hear peek

from a place called Queens. And we had to fight every each New y'all nicker, every ball snicker for nickers to be like Queen's nickers is a fish like he just took out Shan. Damn, I've rolder that wrong and she sh don't. Don't don't blow me up, listen. I'm just I'm just being honest. And at that time you changed the face of hip hop because you single handedly. I don't need to know. How did this start? Was it beef with Marley? Was it beef for Shan? Was

this this wackpool? A sneaker? What was it, Chris? To make you go off like that? First off, we and queens didn't know that was a South Bron. We didn't know it was a North It was the Bron. So when all right, so I need to notice this is from my own history. How did they start? That's the wall rest in peace to Mr Magic. Let me start right. You don't care whether we smoke right now, come on, man, come on um recipees to Mr Magic. Okay, straight up,

Now that's who started it. He started it, Magic, Mr Magic? Down he rest in peace, Mash we wanted to be down with the Juice Crew. Let's start right there. So and this is Molly mar This is Magic, okay, Magic Magic was here. First of all, there was another Juice Crew before Magic, the original Juice Crew. I was first. I don't know all of it. I think it was Melly Mel. Yeah, this is Juice Crew. This Juice Crew had a disco fee and they're the original Juice Crew.

Magic was part of that crew. Okay, so he kind of took the name and the second generation came up, which was us and so he named his crew the Juice Crew. But he is the only one with the ring. There was rings was like thirteen rings that were given out for this Juice Crew because he was one of this. He was one of these views with the ring. So he made the think Juice cre with his man fly tie as well. Ty was was big, you know with UH promotion and marketing. So the idea was battles were

huge on the street anyway. If he was an m C, he was always battling your man. He was always in the ciphers fitting ship. So that's what it was. But none of that was ever reflected in mainstream media and Wrapped whatever run d m C. They was crushing ship, but they were still you know, wrapping um. They were still like performers, you know. They It never was really what it was on the street level. So we went to Magic. We wanted to be part of the Jewice screen.

We wanted to be produced by Molly maul okay. But Magic was the Juice Crew. He's the one that put everybody down. So Rock Sands Shante just came off of a battle with U. T. Fo nice battle. All these rock sands came out of that battle. Little sister Fast Team. I went to school, continue rock Sand. She came out U t f O nice battle. So mc shan came out and this LU called him a beat bitter because the word on the street was the LL bit his stop the can go, the didas the pumas and us

the track suit. And in a way you looked just like L from her early days. If you look at early LL, it was some kind of similarity. So l I was mad about that, I guess and started going out. I'm not L. I'm sorry. Shan was mad at that and started going after L. L L never answer them, um, but I did because Magic took our demo. So the story goes, engineer told us this. We handed in our records, two records criminal Minded and Elementary, oh and a record

called Advanced three records. We have got to advance three records. We gave it to him. He said, Magic said this is corny. No, we're not doing it, and supposedly flung it into into garbage. We're not. This is an engineer telling us. First of all, we couldn't even talk to Magic. Okay, he was not huge. Okay, security, he was the man. Okay, we couldn't even see. We handed up. We handed dude the c D throw somebody through, somebody through somebody, and the word got back your wick, get a body here.

So mind you, I'm homeless in the street. I'm riding the train back and forth, the D train. Scott land Rock is a social worker at the shelter. I get to, you know, sometimes I'm at the shelter. Sometimes I'm not me and just Stice was in the shelter together, so some NICs we hang out all nights. Some nice we get up. But Scott had to go to work every day and worked there at that shelter. So we got back and Scott was like, yo, they said it was what my g I was like, Yo, why shan is

why how my ship? My ship ain't white. So I'm twenty, you know what I'm saying. I'm cocky, I'm arrogant. I'm already known in the Bronx. I'm a graffiti writer really named k r Rest and I'm writing on the six train and the five, the two and the five. We're hitting the bus yards for the rod bus yards. So I'm already on my ship in the graffiti world, and I was, I'm just throwing it out there. I was on my ship, bomb and busses and trains and we were trying to get into the wrap deal, hopefully to

get some money and get out the hood. They said you why so I wrote, I was, I wrote the Bridges over first, before the South, before the South Bronx. I wrote the Bridges over because that was more my ship. And I was on some reggae ship. So I was like, yo, I used to listen to shine Head, actually was my inspiration, shine Hand. I used to listen to shine Hand, Michigan and Smiley yellow Man, Lieutenant Stitchy, Major Macro, Nija man On. I used to blast all that. So he was like, see,

what are you doing? Okay, So so it's like, so I'm listening to all that. But Scott was like First of all, Scott started to get down in his spirit because he had already shopped our music to everybody, and they all turned us down. They said it was too educated to preachy. You don't sound like the rappers out here. Because we were talking about nuclear a wall, the government. This kind of day was like, na, I wrapped, don't need I know about lutle nat because you I'm just

we want I'm just telling you that anyway. So we was like, you know, nobody was gonna sign us. No, no one wanted us. So I was like, you know what, fuck it? I wrote the Bridges over. I said it to Scott. Scott was like, nah, man, because nobody's gonna gonna play that reggae ship. Nobody want to hear that ship. They want to hear like run DMC and this. So you're telling me the Bridges over was wrote before Shan actually dropped the bridge. No bridge out, No, the bridge

was out, and I wrote the Bridges over. So now let me just tell you this is where you also crushed my dreams as a child. Fair hip hop started out. I thought he was telling I'm a child, all right. I bought the nineties seventy seven right, what what year did shann drop that record? That was like eighty six eighty six? So technically how old am I? Nine? Ten? Nine years old? Nine? So I believe as a nine year old, but I don't. I've never been at But wait,

here's the real of it. We both were wrong. Okay, wait wait me and you ll meet you. And okay, he said, you love to hear the story again and again how it all got started way back when the monument is right in your face, sitting and listening for a while to the name of the place, the bridge. Okay, that caused the battle, that's what because you knew hip hop originating. I was going watching BAM right, so now we as as as as as we go. So it was that line that made you that's it. Well, no,

it's Magic, said we was garbage. It made his fury combined with that line, Well, that line was the excuse. But Magic wasn't from Queen's Bridge. No, magic is from Magic. He's from Brooklyn. No. But but you hear this record and why Well, first of all, Magic just dissed us and and basically was hopping on the fact that his number one MC was this dude right here, mc shan. So being from the Bronx, hungry broke poor with nothing, we said, you know what, that's food right there. Let's

go get him. This is crazy and so food right, We said, yo, we wrote up. I wrote the bridges over first. Scott didn't like it, said, no, nobody's listening to reggae ship If you really want to go at dude, come with some ship. So the original bridges Over was a reggae Yeah, okay, it was super Cat books boom boom boom boom boo boom boom the super Cat for that right, super Cat literal left right for a little while. That was I was all in the super Cat right there.

And he had a record called said Bop standing going up, hug him up. He said, boo standing in the boom boom boom boo boom boom boom boom boo boo boo boom. I was like, yes, put that to some boom back the same ship we used to do in the in the in the shelter, we used to hit the bathroom. He didn't like that. So then what happened? You went back? He put on this record that goes, hey bro, I got that good cheap achiever boom boom, Hey bro, I got that good chiep a chief. You have to keep

cutting that far out. So Scott's cutting that ship. And I was like, way back in the days when the hip hop began with Coke Lrock, Cool HRC and Damn Bamn. He was the Scott was like, oh yo, you need to come with that next like three days later he got his check. We went to the studio. It was fifty dollars an hour and you get an ascetake at the ends. It was a bargain like the ascetake was only five hours, but they said and the acid take two hour minimum. We spent fifty dollars. We made a

four track. We did South Bronx and the ps Free the same day, two hours on the bridges of Us. South Bronx and the p is Free, the original with d knights from the beat and we got du plate out. So we took that down to Latin Quarters and Raoul was playing Red Alert wasn't even on yet. It's a dude named Raoul. That is sidebar on, all right, was my homie. Shout out to sidebar, shout out to sidebar. What's the older people? As I said me, And because I stopped, no, no, no no, because I just figured

Raoul so continue this story. We gave him. We gave him asta take, We gave him the dump player. He put the ship on. From the second that ship came on bridges own No, the South Bronx on the south it said Queen's after Queen's But queens Wich is a huge hit record should play on the radio every day. Throw the ship on the club, dudes. We were very proud of how long do we have? How long do we have? How long Queen's were we? It was about a month, It was about a month. We only had

a month, maybe two months, maybe two months. We had six months. No right to give us two months even if it was like two months was on the radio, it was like one month. The ship was he was in the club already, and then and then he came back. No, then Shan came back. No, no, no, no, no, let's not skip okay, So we only had a month where it was okay to be from Queensbridge, left Franck Projects and then no, wait a minute, rephrase the question. No, you guys had like three you had like three or

four years. Because when ce when when run DMC came out and l L and that shant it was cool with them. I'm cool with all of that. So why did you ship? Wait a minute, No, lyrically, I wasn't lyrically, I wasn't see this was the time. This was a time where you had to prove run, d m C said, amazing lyric I think it was d m C he said, other rappers can't stand us, but give us respect. That sums up the whole eighties with do you feel like DMC was like a pop group to you back? No, no, no,

it was nothing pop about run DMC. No, I don't know. This was straight hood okay, jam Master Jay okay, okay, okay. Jane was hood hood okay Okay. Now Run and d they were straighthood as well. They came from different other parts of Queens, but Queens the whole of Queen's good okay. So it was like Run to MC was just kings like they would just say and and you always took a shot at those who was on the top if you was the little guy on the bottom. That that

that's what it was. It was like even um Rox and Shante had a line where I met Running, I met d m C and I said so and it was like one of her dopest like one of her lines, and she had put it. But that was the attitude like you ain't large, you you ain't you know even though you are, and you demand But let me ask you this question. When he said hip hop started out in the dog was was that something that directly bothered you because you knew the truth scholarly, yes, but I

didn't know the truth. I thought I knew the truth. So this is young arrogance. I'm hanging out in the Bronx, North Bronx, South Bronx, East West Bronx. I'm the whole Bronx, Gunhill Road to Milborough Projects. Okay, whole Bronx. First time, I'm a graph writer, So I walked the entire Bronx. My maid is okay, I'm the whole Bronx. Okay, So I'm running in the party's dudes, you know we know ship. You didn't hear, and I didn't hear. No, we did. We used to go to Queen's. Queen's had the dopest party.

But so you did hear Pete? No do alright, come on, come on up man Queens. No see what it was? No, no, let me childhood store. Let me say this. Let me say this. My wife is from Queens, okay, s Queens. No no, no, no no, no, that's the queen right Jasmine in the village in Queens, Queens. I'm gonna pick you up. Sorry, pigau me a wife. He's looking for I'm looking for my Queen's st orbans. See this is what I'm talking about. Man, Niggas don't respect this part the nigga no matter a woman.

Let's leave this. Listen. On the island, people used to be like queens, like you started something. So niggas from queens at that time on the island spit out razors and buck fifties. You might have originated buck fifties. I don't know if you knew that. I don't know if you knew that. But because queens, he's like everything murder, I do, I do mask. You don't care? This is? This is he's like my father, Like I mean, like, ain't you blame your father for everything? Don't we all? Yeah?

Don't we all? Yeah? Don't we all? So? Um? All right, So when you heard hip hop started out an adult and you knew that, you knew that it didn't know. I knew Cool herd existed, I knew Bama, knew flies she exists that I didn't know them, but their names were in the hood crazy, So you knew she was fronting? Yeah, basically, well I knew he didn't know. I don't even know

if he was fronting. It's just that because and he wrote about what he saw from his perspective, and so I went out to record South Bronx and and today it's to be scholarly correct hip hop starting the West Bronx. It never started the South Bronx. That was my next question ahead, this is the West Bronx, Coolheart Avenue, the Bronx. Okay, that's West Bronx. But we were so ghetto ignorant and gas to get on the record. We South Bronx, South

South Bronx. Because that was one of my other history books was were people from the other part of the Bronx when they still chair Oh yeah, everybody North Bronx, East West was all from the South. Because even now, like when Biggie you hear you yeah, Biggie, or you hear um nah, somebody's out out the Bronx, they never say the Bronx. They say the South Bronx. And I always wondered when people from the other side, well they offended by that, Like it's just like Biggie shout it

out on one record when God bless her dead. Obviously when Big was alive, he was like, yo, I shouted out Queen's Bridge, and I was like, I'm from Left Fract, Like I don't really get that, like, you're not shouting out the whole Queens when you shout out Queen's Bridge. Queen's Bridge is a ninety six building that you come over Manhattan, and that's just that section for people that's right next door to it. Ravers would a story of

they don't recognize Queen's Bridge. We understand what you mean by shout out Queen's Bridge and thinking it's the whole Queen's but it's really not. So I always wanted it was that the opposite when you said South Bronx, um was people in the West Bronx. The Bronx took it differently because the Bronx wasn't on the map. Brooklyn was on the map. The Brooklyn is still on the map. Rules you could be in dues off journey. You say broken in the house, what the fly was? Okay, there

was nobody was. There was a record called Go Brooklyn. I think that's the Sonic Mighty Mike Master somebody go Brooklyn, Brooklyn. That was it. That that was the club anthem. That's what we did. That's what it was. So when I came to South Bronk, yeah, that's what I want to go that's where the Bronx was on the map. And then I mentioned dudes that were heavy in the Bronx,

you know, Nine Lives Crew, Cypress Boys, Real Rock. So what you're telling me is after you dropped the South Bronx, shan drop kill that noise, that's what made you drop Bridges Over. Yes, this is terrible. No. Never, First of all, I would have been over. It was horrible. This is terrible. Actually, you know what no let me tell you. When kill that noise came out, it was a hit. Was it was a hit. First of all. That be think of the Casey Sunshine band beat done. That was crazy. Think

he even used it again. He used it the doo don't jun jun juno, don't don't don't don't, don't don't come that that that that was the case. When he knew that on it was hot. It was like, oh he came back. It wasn't It wasn't whacked until the Bridges Over came out. Marst Off, you're hurting my feelings. But I need to know how this happened. I need to know, like we all, because you're my favorite artist

at the time. I'm a child, and you you broke my dreams like ruined ship with the murder people all around. The boy my whole life as good as it's because he's my god. You so how did this session? How did how did how did this? Because you said you originally recorded original version it was a reggae b no, no, no, I never recorded it, just I just said it in Scott's living room. He said, nah, wow, So you did

the South Bronx. So did the South Bronx and the noise came out and did Now Scott got on the reggae when he heard the ps free when I did South Bronx and then the ps free on the other side. You know, um, when we used to do that in the club, that was the rock that that was the record. So Scott was like, what's up this reggae? Like what? He started getting on it. Now he was on it. But then Shan answered, us would kill that noise if

you knew what I knew, you'd kill that noise. And the record was hot for it's time, and so we was like, you know what, we got this joint right here, and Scott didn't even was already recorded. No, it was all my record. Scott never recorded the bridges over he never even well. He came for the mix of the second one. But when when um, when Shan put out his record, I went back to said Gee from Ultra Magnetic, who who who was doing our beats? And he said,

actually was sampling? He he was, He had the SP twelve. So I asked him, Yo, give me some drums. I'm gonna go in the studio up the block from Latin Quarters. I found some little rinky think studio like two blocks up and I said, Yo, Shan came out with this joint. I'm coming back. Went in there and I produced the whole records. I took said Gee's drums. Boom boom back back, boom back, boom boom back. That's the same beat we did on the bathroom wall and the shelter boom boom

back back boom back. When and dudes just get it in. That was just the standard beat. So we did that. Put the super cat to it. Boom boom, boom blah boom bom. I played the piano one take one time you listen to the instrumental. That's the sloppiest playing ever. As errors mistakes, all types of shipping. But no one heard all that. Put my lyric down the Bridge is over. I did that ship strictly for Brooklyn, straight up Bronx,

South Bronx. That was straight up Gunhill Road, straight up west Chester, Jamrong, Grand Concuse, that was straight that this one. We said, Yo, this is what Brooklyn is on right now, and nobody knows it. Nobody. Nobody goes to the jams like, well, actually what it's called the don side. The Dan's all. They don't go to that. We'd be it. We was in there with Stone Love and GT International and all of that. So when he was talking about battle and he was like, Yo, we're gonna battle the way they

do in Jamaica. We're gonna spin the record back this up, gun shot we go and America's never hurt. They was like, what the fuck? The bridge is over? What did I buy? They didn't know what the fun that hurt? It was like it was that's what it was called sound. I'm not even from the Bridge, I'm just from Queens, but it still hurts. Scary. I'm gonna take a moment of silide. Take that moment, let's drink. So let's drink that chance sent opcially fund it out. So why did why did

you even respond to sharing this Shan Shannon? Listen, let me just say, Shannon still a godfather, no doubt of Queen's Bridge of Queens, He's still a forefather. But this time, why did you respond, like Shan is the reason k arrest one has a career. Damn okay, this is to make some noise for that man. For second, in my opinion, the greatest battle on record, no doubt on record. To me, it was the greatest battle because it affected like it changed people with lives. Like right now, when I see

people battle, they don't change people's lives. We just laugh at them. And you know, but this like Queens had to prove ourselves, like we had to like you know what I mean, like South Bronx was was was was the position where you had to dig out the rubble. I got the outside. It's gonna go away where he said, It's like Brooklyn has always been recognized. I can remember

back and uh nineties seven. I used to go to Atlanta and be like, yo is Atlanta in the house and nobody from Atlanta what never you know say anything? And when I said New York in the house, people go crazy. And I would saying Brooklyn and were always my first choice Brooklyn and and these people won't go crazy. I'll see him. I would see him backstage. And but like you from Brooklyn, we're at that. But like Queens Boulevard, this motherfucker's a line and motherfucker. But you changed the

game from that. And so Shan responded to recently, Yeah, why did he started? You started? He started it? Yeah? He just he did an interview. No no, no, no he didn't. Well wait he didn't do a record, No he did, he did, um he did. Uh wait wait, let me go back, just for the record. I was battling some other two in Pittsburgh recently. Yeah, maybe a three months up like Hill Chris, I would have got I mean, having eggs and bread in my fucking hand and ship on. But I give the young kids a

run for their money. Man still got it. They got to test somebody. The young shooters got a little somebody. The young kids don't know my history. So don't tell him. Don't tell him because he spank that. But but they but but but the point is is that I was bounding some other someth dude jumped on stage. He was this and he was dressed like L holding l L's album album, and I was freestyling. I said some waxh it about l L. I apologized for that because l L is up here. You know, he's even before me.

You know what I'm saying. There's no disrespect there. But I was battling, and the battle is for moment. He was like spurt. He held up l L's album. I was like, are you telling me some kids just jumped on stage? Yeah? Yeah, well just just jumped. So I gave him a shot. Why what you got? He spent his ship. It was corny, and so I started going away this Pittsburgh, Okay, you did say that. So in that he put up Sham this album and I said, we took Shan out already. What's your old this problem

up for? Shann heard that and said, fucking man, Yeah, he never took me out this, that the other. Do you agree with his theory? His theory is that, yeah, should have been in front of each other like how the Battle Rappers do. Now do you agree with that theory? Yeah? He just never showed up. Dude. It's thirty years. It's thirty years the festival. I've been all up and down Queens okay in Queen's Friend, there's no excuse outdoor festivals, come on Summon Champ thirty years and now he wants

to do it face to face. That would be the end of his ship. If you ever want to see him all that should will be destructive. I don't know what he's asking for, but you know, I eat off this ship, man, I this is my ship right here. You know, still have it in you? Like you right, I'm gonna shoot somebody. So you really were in the studio and recorded a new Well he came out with

something he did. He did an interview and he said some rhymes on the interview that he's coming at me so well from you don't just say that's like pulling your gun and not shoot, like what you're gonna pull your ship out? I'm blasting you. That's sad, That's I'm not what that's the end of. So he said his little piece, So put a piece out. So what did he exactly say? He like, I'm freestyle a cappella. Yeah, but it sounds like it was written though it had

no heart to it, like a real freestyle. He was reading some ship and he read some ship off and and I just so fu Yeah, I'm going to Atlanta. I'm going to Atlanta. That's what, dude? Is that? That's what? Yeah, Shan working, sham working a place called Club Babes in Atlanta. Okay, I'm going there. Okay, that's why I don't know what I just started. Come on, you want to see it. Let's get it popping so you will be willing drink champs. I think this is an opportunity for us, right, No, no, no, no,

I don't want it to do with this battle. I just want to see it online. Queens, man, I don't really want to see this battle, can you? Is there anyway we can chill you out or no? Not? What? What? What did they say that ignited you to want to go? It's not what it's being said. It's so it's the audacity to even think that, after thirty years you you got something for me. You are crazy. You obviously want more hits on your ship or whatever it is. Let me give them to you, Let me give it to you.

Let let me blick you up. Because again, let me also say this, if Shan never answered me, I would not have a career. Okay from the South, bron from the South, Bronx. Okay, that record could have been one hit, Like if South Broncy came out, we would have had one hit. Okay, we had no other shot. Shannon answered, would kill that noise, and then he never He didn't have to. So we came back with the Bridges over and that's when we was able to follow up with

Criminal Minded. We had four songs on the market. Now, Shannon is the reason I exist, or the least I could do. His bust his ask, that's the least I can do. You know what I'm saying, Show him that and hopefully I said, Yo, somebody should write for Chancey. Back to your first question, back to the first ones. I see if someone wrote for Shan, I would not be mad at all. Fuck that man saved that nigga man. Please, so you kept saying to him, you told you told

him his name is Nah spelled backwards your father. It's the opposite, yo, Yo, Let me pick up my nigga nos real quickly, because you said, look at the Queen's Bridge was done until Ill Mattic came out. Okay, just for the history, Okay, Queensbridge was criminal Minded? Was was the ship on that ship? That was it? Okay, I think Illmatic was better than Criminal Minded. That's my opinion. Um um. Me being a queen's kid, I can't understand where you're coming from. But me living in that era,

I gotta say criminal Minded. If it wasn't a criminal Minded, it wouldn't be a matter. We could say that, no doubt, no doubt. We could say that, so we can say I'm a real hip hop ki. No no no no no we tried no no no no no no. You real with it. You influenced eyes too. But you know what, you know what you are starting right now. Whoever is listening to us right now, go and listen to both

albums right now, back to back, back to back. Listen to the whole Criminal Minded, and listen to the whole Illmatic. I did that this morning. That's the creaz Listen. Listen, listen. You know that's Criminal Mind is one of my favorite albums. I just it's two records. I can't really listen to it, but I listened to them. But this morning I just woke up and I was like, I wanted to listen to Illmatic. I don't know why, and I just listened

to it. And then I listen to criminal another mind if you want to switch the champagne you know so, um so I understand what you're saying. But me living in that era, that's um. I can one hundred since tell you nas what answer the question the same way. He'll be like, if it wasn't for a criminal minded, he wouldn't know because you made us step our game up. You know what, but that game, but that game got

stepped up to the point where hip hop changed. But change hip hop too, just in case, because you don't know you and you humble, but you changed hip hop. You You was the first person you was. You was our Malcolm X. Let me break that down to you. It is because hip hop had took up like the p M Dawns, and it took up Hey, we're cool approach, but we wanted to keep that attitude. But we also wanted to learn something and that's the position you fulfilled.

That's why, that's why your your name as a teacher would never be testing at all. No one could ever say he's not a teacher because you taught us the woof Tangs, the mob deeps, the Bona Noriega's the Nazis. So I can't agree with your statement. I know your statement is humble, saying that all Maddock is better, but I think it is beat for beat. No, but that's not. But that's not how history happened. Because how history happens is they say, you know this happened in order for this.

I hear that. So that wait, when I was coming from a different perspective. We're talking about respect. We talk about yeah, you're a great guy, a great guy. We understand when you're wait, wait get it. How else was Queen's been supposed to come back? But now nothing out? Now, let's answer Shan's question. Because I listened to the interview. Shan is also a guard to me. He said that Molly told him not to respond. What do you think of that? That's pussy, That's that's pussy. It was right

for him. I wanted him to think that that's pussy. Man, my god, oh my god. Now that's grown ass. Man gonna tell you not to response. We're eating your ass right now, nig somebody don't respond and ship right. Oh man, this is real for me, this is so surreal. Welcome to Play It, a new podcast network featuring radio and TV personalities talking business, sports, tech, entertainment, and more. Play it at play dot It. We're back to Drink Champs

Radio with Rapper and R and d Jes. Then I don't even know where to go here if we're gonna wrap this up before here, before we wrap this up, I'm the only Miami represented here, right, Yes, So it wouldn't be right for you to walk away without me to represent my generation of Miami hip hop. And when you recorded with Mother Superior this album, didn't really see

the letter. This is your usually lie. Mother Superior. Mother Superior is this dope m C that came out of Miami in the mid nineties early mid nineties, and she

was spearheading our movement. I mean, there was those funky Bastards, there was Society, Home Team, there was there was We had a bubble of movement that was parallel to the base movement based, no doubt is a part of our Miami culture, but we had we had a hip hop and the way you guys were talking about how everybody was talking about the Brooklyn, the Bronx or whatever in the clubs, we had that problem here. So what we're

trying to do is build our own identity. He did a record, so she did this album she got signed the Island Music she you know, strictly off of underground radio. She did a song called rock Bottom, which was totally representative of Miami. And then he did a record with her, maybe a couple, but this one record I put on one of my mixtapes, but her album never came out and got shelved. And he said, where you at? Where

you at? Miami's on the map. I remember that, and then you remembers everything that made that made the world of difference for a Miami hip hop kid. And I just you couldn't leave without me telling you that because it made the world a difference for all of us out here that I felt shot out some other superior, superior she was. She was hot man stone words. Peter got question, where was your mind that when you made the sound of the Police? I was sick of these

pigs man shooting us down in the street. And it's still going on still, what it was going on since we got here? So what was the sound of? What year was that? Technical? Damn this and were now one years and you made that record then? Yeah, and it's still going on now still to this tape, Little n W A man the police? What was. Yeah, it was the police that And see, this is the thing is that people say, you know, black people are overdoing it.

We have documents, records that says that these people was doing it. So I just like to say, what was the mind state you woke this in the South Bronx. Well keep in mind that. Wow. I don't even know how to say this, but um, in the Bronx. Uh, if you was really successful with you'll hustle in the hood, the cops was your friends. It was Larry Davis. Yeah, you were. Larry Davis was right on our block like Webster Project. He was up the block from Webster Project.

The whole thing went down. Um, the cops was like they were gangster like. It's like, oh boom, okay, to speed this up. Training day, the movie training day. That ship is every day all day. Okay, just go out training day and you'll know what it is. It's just this was another gang with another jurisdiction. And then and this is what we was dealing with. So if you remember in Bookie Down Productions, we had to we had to do called RoboCop that was with us and there

were two of them. One was um A Bounced was the lead bouncer at Latin Quarters who is known for breaking dudes up in Latin Call. He had a reputation. You didn't want to deal with this dude, okay. And there was another dude, uh that was a state trooper, New Jersey State trooper. Um when I'm posting on the going to cover biomies necessary with the oozy the ouziest from a New Jersey state trooper. Remember the studio jet shopper. I didn't look at I didn't look as cool as you.

That was from New Jersey said she was so weird. Austin it was like it got to a point where he was like, you know what, we we can't associate with you anymore because of what was going on. It was a split like in our own community, because like if you're really in the hood, like like you could be selling mad drugs, but your brother's a cop, Like your cousin's a cop, your uncle's a cop. Like you know, it's not just oh, I'm a cop and everybody around

me is clean. It's the exact opposite. Dudes, did the cops even today they gotta live with people like like, imagine you a cop and every day you see crime all around you every day, but you can just pick. Okay, I'm gonna arrestue today. How did you come up with an analogy from officer overseas? But that's that's some ot ship because when we when we were first and we were first brought here uh not as slaves but really as soldiers on the Spanish side, um uh and and

then slaves on the English side. Although that's controversial too, but yo, yo, hit yo, yo, we're gonna get your new phone cameras. No, I need that when I need that ship, I need that. My ship is eighty can't do that. I'm bringing that ship back. I'm personally buying you. I gotta beeper nickels. I got no word. I'll say, y'all, I bring my ship IOUs serious, I gotta beat hold my beeper man, bring beepers back that yo. That yo. You want to get dream, you gotta beat us. Yeah,

you gotta beat us. I'm personally buying caress the world. Okay, okay, okay, okay, So you remember you're talking about because you can forget it and um yeah I did. Yeah, that's okay. Listen, we wanted to take the community, oh, cops in the community that's right, signing the police. So the cops is always your friends in the hood, which is the weirdest ship because when you really in the hood, cops ain't arresting you, ain't shooting you. He's a bitch, instead of

shooting at us. Motherfucker's that ain't no real ship. That's some bullshit. Okay, that's that's scared. They said, we're scared. That's what we shoot because we're scared. Real cops. They know exactly who's selling who they hit the d A. Yo, go watch training day the d A. Go ahead, this dude to this one. I say all the time when we have police brutality, is when they stopped letting the cops from the hood go to hud because you know, you know what you call it from down the block.

He went to school with him. You know he's a thief. You don't need to kill him. But when what happened is they take the cops from our hood and they bring them to another place, and then they bring the cops from another place, and that's the borderline. That's that's that's one of the essential reasons why police brutality exists, because if you had Jamal that that's from sound View project, and that went to school and sound View, and then

that was patrolling sound View. He's gonna be different as opposed to as a Paul to Walter, who's from wherever wherever, but now he's patrolling sound View. He's never seen a kid with braids. He's never seen a kid either by since I see so he's gonna just do whatever this woman. This add on. The police are supposed to be the model citizen in the community, no matter who you are, white cop, black cop, Latino cop, Asian cop, Arab cop. I'm gonna funk who you are. You take you take

police training. You're supposed to be the model citizens. You should have the most restraint. Okay. Kids are looking at you. They should be able to look at you and be like, yo, dad, I want to be a cop, and your dad be like, yo, you gotta really be a good man to be a cop. And that that's what it's supposed to be. But our children forget adults. Okay, children know the cops are corrupt. Okay, that's the state we are, right, Kids, not forget the adults.

Kids know I'm not safe around this duo. I'd rather be around my shooters over here with the rag on the here, I'm safe around crips and blood. I rather hot. You know, I'm even gonna say that ship. I'm just saying I rather higher them, which we do as opposed to some some off duty cops. Years ago, we used to hire off duty cops x FBI. These dudes need jobs. You just go ahead and you hire them for and now you give them some money. You're doing your country

or service. These are veterans, and ship, do you do your thing now? It's like, nah, man, let me organize these blogs over here. Hit them with some money because on the street for let me hit them with some cash. And y'all God, y'all can stand in. Just do what you're supposed to do and get organized. I'd rather hire them as long as we know that we're not safe around the police. This whole ship is corrupt and let me show you this. I want some Illuminati ship if

you really want to know. Years ago, like eighty two, there was a supposedly a conspiracy theory going around about eighty three. It said that the new World Order is going to include a global police force, and the way to implement the global police force was for local police to become so hated by the local community that the local communities cry out for international interference. So now you have these cops today randomly just shooting down black people,

just shooting and it's stupid. It's like, it's ridiculous. Now the rest of the world's saying, Yo, what's something with America? What's what's something? Do you go to other places? You know? Nor are you go to places? Dudes looking at us like wait, crazy, like you know what's going on? Got Africans asked me, you old bro, what's something? Man of black man? Sometimes you land in these different countries, they'd

be like welcome, like you're here, like you survived. And dudes, you think that's because because became president it got worse or no no, you're saying yeah, no, no, no, no, you know what he got to do, and he got a lot of factors in it. First of all, people want black people in jail. Okay, people making money on it. Black people are making money on black people in jail. Okay. This black d a sending business Like, don't doubt this black d a sending black people a prison. Black judges

are sending black people to prison. Black cops are sending black people, black cops, black stop shooting black beebo. We y'all gonna drop, I got you, you know. So it's like it's like, are we really at war with any outside for us? So we all with ourselves? Are we just going along with the script that they have planned for us? And it's like straight up and down. They just had Tyler Quality was just with me the other day. He came over. So he just told me he just

came from the White House with a blood. The rappers were there and really nothing got discussed, you know. And they never call people like me or Chalk or and one or no doubt, and that's that's what they need. But they never know. But you know what they had ricked there. You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. So I'm saying, no, why don't they because they know you're gonna come with the truth. Look, here's the point is that is that we're moving into this script.

The United States has to become what its name is in order to it to survive. United funk all this black ship, give me this this this is this legendary what right here America? We got to become a United America. Gotta stand up for America, like straight up when you go to other country's nick is this in US man this and the Americans this and not everybody because my first game president, everybody with you know whatever. Overseas, they was like black like the like the first year after

that there was you know. But there's a rumor that you didn't fly. He was taking boats and Franklin. So so do you do you fly now? No? I fly privately. I love flying. I fly helicopters. I'll fly private jets and things like that. Take a few private jets here in there. But commercial airlines for me, it's too much to love in the hood is too much for k arrest. I don't. I can't do nothing like you know, like to get to the airport, it takes me an hour.

The baggage claim sucking the whole baggage claim. I take pictures with everybody pounds. I'm not leaving my people. I'm not is gonna walk past you. So everybody said, yo, Chris, I gotta stop. I gotta take things. I got sign ship, get on the plane. The stewardess buggat the people on the on the plane, bugging Captain. I said, you know what, and this was ninety seven. I said, forget it. I'm not flying. I'm not flying on what I can't you

haven't from since ninety seven, actually ninety six. Let's being rich. I don't know. You gotta be tweating a line a rich. Listen, it's not rich. I'm not a rich man. I'm a very poor man. No, no, me too, I say the same, I take I'm not rich, me too, I'm pot. But the private thing is let's talk about it. But but but I won't fry privately. I take very good care of my wife and my children. Okay, that's what it's.

I don't need anything, but they need a lot. So, you know, I say, look, I don't want to have a career where I'm away from my kids on my wife. Ethan, it's that the other so and I can't be away from my wife. She books all the tours. Did you book a boat to London? I heard that. I heard this. That's why I'm rushing out of here now. Yeah, I'm going to Speen tomorrow. Talk about are you getting a boat to Man's Woman? Mimi, I'm going in tomorrow. This

Coronesian Nowegian cruise posting right up to your board. I'm getting on that ship and then it goes to go to Spain. How many days? Fourteen days, I'll be in Barcelona world, So this is this is current you and college is like the only two left. You know, College don't fly either. I think he got expected though fly? Why should he fly? So? Why what? What? Why you wouldn't fly? Well? Well, first of all, like I told you,

commercial travel to me is just hectic. Besides that, like you know now, besides that, I have books to write. I got rhymes to right, I read a lot. My life is slower, you know what I'm saying. I take time with my family, my wife, my daughter, my son's I got you need time for that. So you know, fourteen days at see, I'm finishing up three books that I'm just finishing. You just zone now try that one. You should. You should try writing rhymes in the middle of the Atlantic. I got a d D hit that

you don't have a d D smoke too much. I might just jump over escualde Cures. That's what I'm saying. It doesn't have it. And the thing is the weed I smoke is so loud, like it's gonna be a judge that come out. I'm gonna tell you a story, right, I'll tell you I was in Hawaii because I remember this story because he's drinking my ties. So I'm in Hawaii, right, I'm out, hold on, hold on, I'm smoking weed. Right. This is my first marriage, it's my I'm married again,

it's my second one. Pray for me. So I'm sitting there smoking. The people at the Four Seasons, the Four Seasons Maui. So they called me and they say, yo, are you smoking up there? And I'm like, yeah, I don't know what I paid for this room, but I just know my accountant lost her mind. So I'm like, yeah, I'm smoking. They're like, kids, you would you mind not smoking on the terrorists? So I said, now you're inviting me to smoke in the room. They're like, you're right.

They're like, we have a very important guest that is upstairs. And I'm like, did the guests pay more than me? And they're like no. So I'm like, well, they're like Mr Santiago, that's my last name. I don't know if you don't pay. Puerto Rican makes a noise for La team, but I'm black and like so so they say I'm actually performing in Santiago. This is a gift. So they say to me, they say, you're right, you're actually outside.

You can't do it. I look on the news. This is when Oprah um step son had drowned in Hawaii and Maui. So the person I was telling them to tell them the funk that I paid the same amount was fucking Oprah. This is hard a morbid story because I like that I actually paid square for square. We had the same exact room. God bless you know the people who passed away and everything. But that ship was just a moment for me. It was a moment for just me standing in my ground but now and trying

to make this one work. The second was always the best. You're the second one to ms. Melanie was first, okay a year and a half and big up to her wresting peace. God blessed not that I'm every related, by the way, So if you seen me do that, I'm not. I'm a Muslim, Christian, God body your caress. Thank you for so much for hanging out with us. And we're not going and I'll come back. I'm not fourteen days when I come back. The people need you let's just

break it down for these people. You are going fourteen days, So now how does this cruise happen? You leave in Miami, do you stop anywhere? Yes? Will you stop that? We stopped in fun called Africa. We stopped on you go from Miami to Africa? Yeah, we got that. Real questioning Africa, I've never heard of some Bahamas, a little Bahama, little Bahamas. Then you get out to Africa, then you get done this trip before. Oh yeah, no doubt. Not only this ship,

but I've done other ships I've done. And how many times do you say you them this oh sailed? Yes? Oh at least thirty times? And you believe in a boat you've got an everything Titanic? No, no, no, there's no Titanic anywhere in the Atlantic Ocean. The coast guard will get you in ten minutes. Anyway, It ain't that bo that's bullshit. That's this movie ship. This rich motherfucker's on that boat. That boat ain't going nowhere. There's no

there's nothing, there's nothing now mind you. Now come on now, Caribbean Cruises and all that you cruise, Do I get them? Oh yeah, no doubt. You get platinum gold status, healthy passengers, no doubt. But some of the triangle, the triangle you haven't been there. Yeah, part of the triangle you've been

right through it. Get right there. The Bermuda try and go only acts something when when like you know you you have to go through that and like like, um, it's like certain seasons where they say it's like hurricanes season or this kind of thing. Look everything, because it gets the bottom line. You trust the boat more than the plane. No, no, no, okay, I trust me driving ship more than anything. Okay, I would prefer to get my own boat and sail across the sea myself, but

I'm not going to settle for a small yacht. Like you know, I could do a small yacht right now, but that's not what I want. What I want is an actual ship that I could go across and of course mad money. So I'm just holding out till I can get my own ship, and then I could. I could see some motherfucker's want to buy planes. They want ship, pair of us one and one on the ship something that's straight up no doubt. So you think I'm gonna give you this last one? Um, it's the last question.

Boxing don't have no representative which means that if you're a boxer, you make it, you make it. If your boxer you don't make it, you're fucked up. There's no there's no reparations, there's no like you know, type of you know, to hold you down. Hip hop is the only other, I want to say, entertainment company that we might have thirty people that's down with us. But when you go on that vocable before you go to perform that record, it's just you. Similar to boxing, we don't

have nothing to representing us in the hip hop. We hear that the president just recently met Matt with these people Toddler Quality brothers that we know bust the rhymes. What do you think it's our solution to make we need a hip hop you know when you wanted the life insurance or the health insurance even further than that. Now Um yeah, well let me let me because like right now, like like DC right, phenomenal guy lost his voice. They should have been health insurance that kind of helped

him restore that. We didn't have that and right now, But it's because Jenna Kiss said something on our part cast. He said, we're the only people who have a hip hop South hip hop regions. Yes, there's no hip hop, there's no rock and roll South, there's no rock and roll. Why are we segregating? Why are we saying and and and do we need this? This this policies where we if Coolherd gets sick, we can go and help him. Do we need that? Yes we do, Yes we do,

and and and and and I advocated absolutely. Unity is the only thing we talked about, American unity. Let's let's tweak it down to hip hop unity. Hip hop is the greatest urban movement to hit human history. Let's just start human history. Okay, human history, Okay, hip hop breaking him seeing graffiti or DJ and beatboxing. You can add street fashion, language, knowledge, all of that. That movement in the hood. That that right there, hip hop is is

what America really is. It's like the true declaration of independence. It's what America is. But we got these old people. You asked me also about hip hop's old school. Okay, I have respect for the old school. We always should, we did. Those are the ancestors, those are the elders, those are the fathers, godfathers and so on. That's that's what it is. But when you don't do your job, you don't deserve the respect of the youth. Elder is always asking for respect that they don't deserve me. I

try to earn the respect of the youth. I don't look down on them. I think they're smarter than me. I think they're faster than me. I think they think of things beyond what I can think about. Now. Of course I tell them, hey, look, I'm the old head in the room, and I like that ship. I'm fifty fun this ship. Okay, that's my ship. I got a our peacon. I want my ship next time. Dude, Yo, that's what I'm saying. What fifty percent off hotels ship is bad? Let me tell you, Okay, we yo, were

the elders in this. Young people are supposed to look up to us and be like, Yo, that's what it means to be fifty and hip hop world. You got your knowledge downpack, your family straight, you got your money right, You're doing your thing. That's what young people need to see and see more blue the blue print. Now we're gonna do it. Shows like this, your ship bringing people

together right now as we speak. Right now, as we speak, dus is here and what it is what we gotta do is really unite, and here's what it's gonna take. Here's you asked this about to stop the violence movement about my brothers ain't doing that today? What we're so hard to do that today? Too much, too much competition, not enough cooperation. Okay, we live in a capitalist come we we we we live in a capitalist society where uh where competition is the number one order of the day.

So the young are trained to kill the old so that you can get so so that you could you what it is the younger train to kill the all. The all a train to kill the young so you can stay in power. Kill these youngest as they coming up. I don't want you to take your hip hop the only generation like you know, the Odds brothers could tour forever. Why did they try to kill the older? Well, it's

that it's that competition. It's still competition. Look when we start, when we stopped thinking of hip hop as a music and start thinking of it as a culture, a nation, a community. When you start realizing that you are a nation, you're a sovereign nation, all we gotta do is unite, just just unite. Just here's a unity. I here it is. Let's print our own currency. Alright, start right, This is

the unity of any nation starts with trust. We print a hundred thousand dollars for every hip hop citizen in existing we have a million citizens. We print a hundred million of our currency currency. Wif cent I'm coming right now here, he'll he'll be a fifty cent piece, fifties worth more than that. But but I'm saying, print our own currency, and let's see if the people spend that. No, they will, You'll be instantly rich. People buying albums, we

give them, give them currency by our currency, not our albums. Right. If we gets selling the album, we did that, we know that game. Now let's sell currencies in which you got the k arrest currency, and d would be like, Yo, this ship is worth this this week up against the American dollar, up against this is the end, up against the Euro, against this ship. Yo. Look, if you gave me a hundred thousand dollars, say you know, let's say I gave you a hundred thousands. Okay, I'll give you

a hundred thousand hip hop currency currency. Okay, now you're gonna spend it with my man right here. What we what we want is specialized people to have this money electricians. Right now, hip hop is old enough. We got doctors, lawyers, ps, workers, we got all kinds of and entrepreneurs, okay, huge entrepreneurs. All we gotta do is trade our own currency with each other, with each other. This hip hop has their

own stores, farms. Look, dude, funk that American dollar. I wanted to see if you're gone this is I gotta be until four in the morning on the plastic I'm not it's plastics. Ship. We gotta join. We gotta drink somewhere. Are your caress. I love you so much, man much, thank you so much for joining us and being a great sport. Took a drink. You even tried to smoke. You didn't want to. You gotta need bring you back to the old school. Dude, brother, I'm adas that over there. Okay,

bass it over there. That's the drink. We gotta take one picture with you. Over there, came green. There's no way I can thank you ever in my life. I'm gonna be in your video. We have a moment. I'm being her video. But it's no way I can thank you ever in life. Because this is this is actually like one of the first hip hop albums I've ever listened to this man. Yeah, one of the first people that I ever said. Then I thought about like my Mom's like, what you're gonna be in life? And I

was just like, I don't know. I knew I couldn't be a teacher, not like you. But I am a teacher, but not like you. I'm a different teacher because I show him a different path. But if I've never would have heard you, I would have never wanted to speak. I would never be here. You know what I'm saying. Some hot Kim Green. You know that's my brother. He called me And when he called me, I said I knew the number, but I hit him back. I just said,

called madness And he got a website. Right, come on, I can't come over here, come over here, here here, yeah, yeah, So shout out your website. We got the maddesm dot org popping off, the ultimate cannabis journal. You know you got you got the maddest popping off internationally. It's big money right now. I want to make sure my people get a taste of that, you know what I mean. So see us off that maddesm dot org so you can keep up with all the latest grow techniques. You

know what I mean. Grow When you say grow, listen, I'm about cannabis. I'm talking about that goodness chronic that you know what we do, what we got going on. Your casts need to know how to grow for themselves. It's not not just about smoking it, but industrial hip is a multi b pipe in the mail. Yeah, I got the whole. We got the hot box, you know what I mean. How we got different ways of you know, the vaping, got the smoking, the leaves, the paper, the blood,

but we got the hot box. It's just a special way of inhaling, you know what I mean. It's real, real good. I want more. Are you a vegetarian? What are you? Yeah? Yes, so you don't eat no fish? No, I try to eat. I leaned toward a vegetarian die, but I do eat fish. How about you. I'm not a vegetarian, right, but I am about my health. I do a lot of juicing. And I said, you keep up with the bartender trying happy about trying to d I drink. Yeah, thank you so much for saying my

brother yo, no jarres. Yeah, I called you Chris for the first time in my life. I never called you Chris. No, what you know what. It's through the records. It's like I never knew if I had the ability to call you, Chris, thank you so much. I appreciate what that man, greatest sport you actually sat down and drink. I didn't think I was gonna be able. I didn't think I was gonna be able to get anyway with it. Shout out,

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