Episode 43 w/ DJ Clue & Grafh

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Minnesota all the way. It's gonna take that one. Lakers, Warriors, that's their names, and the Pelicans, Pelicans, Lakers and the Warriors, Lakers and the Warriors. I think I think I got the Lakers on that one. Yeah, you know the dream chances are you demolished if you're wrong, right right, So think it through because you're just throwing these out there sports too, just to do it. That drink Chance sports bother him and the thunder in the Kings, the last

one Thundering the Kings. Thunder's gonna take that Westbrook. He's on the point. How Westbrook we're doing out there? He's ridiculous. He's going like forty eight points either night. Wow, I haven't been paying that much attention this year to basketball football. I'm disappointed to myself. But by yeah, it's just busy man. But you know we have the new has Matt Studio. Shut up by the way, man. You know last time I came, um, it was normal. Right now it's fine,

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I might not be where I'm at. He used to discover the records I heard choking no joke the other day, say the whole tunnel was based on what records Clue was playing. He's dominated the mixtape game. He's from my home barrow. We know each other twenty years at least. Let's let's let's say ten because we're trying to stay young. But right now in the building, we have the legendary DJ Clue and the drink Chat makes up? Now? What take us in the beginning, In the beginning, Um, uh,

it's in my phone. Okay, So take us in the beginning. How you first started? Um, what's it? You started as a DJ or you started doing mix taps? To be honest, you started wrapping, man. I used to wrap. Yeah, I used to wrap, man Um, I didn't even like the spotlight too much, man at all. Like, so, I mean I kind of being like a little bit kind of behind the scenes, but not too months. So I said, you know, I'm gonna start. Don't got a cup, Let's

get clear cup? Can get clear cup? Continue? Yes? Yes, So I was rapping doing little shows here and then you know Rocherdale Village all that, you know, around the way stuff, and I just sided like yo, man, get behind the turntable to start DJ. And so that's how that came about. Man. So what's the first time, like Clue got recognized when um it was a Biggie joint or something like that. I'm not gonna say that's the time I got recognized, but that was like that was

a big defining moment. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When he got on, he got on FLEXI on, he was like, I'm looking for you and I found you. But what record was this? Um? It was? I think it was the original version of One More Chance, Na right, it wasn't One More Chance. I forget what the record it was, man, But because I had so many records back then, man Um, I think it might have been it might have been a

snippet of Juicy and another record. I think, yeah, mad was a snippet of Juicy and then um and the the original, Uh, the original I think it was me it was it was one more chance it was it was original version of Juicy. Another record he had though, but already Mad mix tapes by that point. Yeah, I had Mad mix tapes moving. But it was kind of it was kind of on on on a local level, you know what I mean. So, now, how did you

start getting these these exclusive NAS freestyles? Like at one point, if you wanted to hear NAS, you had to have a clue. Take yo, man, hear everything. I mean basically I got in the car, man, I ain't even know tow me heads out there in New a couple. I just got in the call with the queens Bridge and started asking questions. Yeah. See that's see that, you know when you when you say that, that's what the different points when poor Rank come on, got that. I don't

want touching with nobody. Let you get your own right. So that's the difference between when you DJ and what DJ's is now. Because DJ's now they just it seems like DJ's just followed the trend. Now they just play whatever. They go to the town and ask what's hot or but back then used to go in Queen's Bridge and forty projects, and it was it about you getting it first, or was you about um uh you you you you

just breaking this record. It was kind of it was kind of trying to trying to find that that hot new thing at the time. You know what I'm saying, that that unfound talent and just and just going and grinding, man and and and working with people in the studios and making them hot joints. Definitely, so then now what you like better back then or now? Definitely back then?

Back then? Yah, Well, I break that down. I mean I feel like it's kind of in a way, it's oversaturated, you know what I mean, Like like I tell a story all the time, and you go on the Internet every day and you wake up and it's fourteen new records, album's records, freestyles, videos, And I mean me, as a DJ, I gotta be real meticulous with what I picked and choose to funk with. But at the same time, you gotta figure that the consumer gotta be confused because they

don't know. No one has enough time on their hands to click on fourteen records and check them out and they all sound the same anyway, Yeah, some of them sound the same and sell them as bliss. It was like, you know, it's like roulette, man, you know what I mean kinda what's the record that stands out to you right now? Like if it wasn't hot that you would

want to take this record and blow it up? A record that's not how yet, like like like uh not, I don't want to say that's not hot that but like something that you're into that even if it wasn't hot, you would you would take this record and feel like you would personally want to break it. That's tough, man. There's a lot of records out there that the um that kind of me. I mean, like when I heard the Young may Reck, I knew it was hot, you know what I mean? I knew that was gonna be

a smoker. Puerto Rican gotta open up his pineapple juice. Come on, somebodyst to have the thing. Come on, Puerto Rican, come on, let's go. But don't fast forward too much. I like to go back to the mixage kick, like how did you how did that all get started? Like what's the inception? When did you say I want to be a mixtape DJ. Then you start rolling them out. I used to go Jamaica Avenue. I used to get on uh well even let's for one a little bit.

Even before that, I said, like have my car. When I was young, you know, I had I had license. As soon as you get licensed back then was like fitting and I had a call back. Then I used to like having you know, dope music to play. Have a little fake system, you know the home speaking. Yeah, I like everybody a matter of fact, he's a DJ Snapple factor. I bought my system that I had him. I have Nissan Sentral right. I bought my crazy system from who Kids before he was before he was who Kids.

I bought the system that was in his car, brought it from him because I liked it. Yeah, so I needed to shake the trustle on the Jamaica Avenue. So I need that because then yeah, so I brought I bought two kids um his his system and through to my trump you know what I mean. And I used to have mix tapes. I used to get baby J and I used to go to the house. I used to pay DJs to make me make me a mix tape.

Now you're saying when you say you to my DJ, Yeah, he used having mixed tapes and he's a cat named baby j Okay, I get around that, not yet now you Okay? Yes, So I used to go to the Advocate, True Life mixing tapes, a couple of little uh you know, more local DJ's, Dog Time, Grandmaster VICI. They legendary and queens, you know what I mean? Right right? So I just

get all kind of mix tapes. And I used to say, man, like yo, if someone made a mixtape that was hot from beginning to end with no fast forward and they get murdered and make some real cash, you know what I mean? So what was your first mixtape you felt like took off? Well, I had to be sneaky man when I started. I didn't want to have taking number one. I started taking number twenty six, you know what I mean, to make people think I've been doing it for a while.

You know I did that, But I did it with number two. I started to taking number six baby, So that's crazy. Yeah, where did uice go? When did you mean you made Remember Mark fermannection? Was he instrumental at all? And what you did? I mean he was a big mix tape distributor not raided by the FEDS, and I know who yeah, yeah, dodging the Fed's back then was was was for me, but half people because they was too They tried to be too over the top with it, you know what I mean. I tried to stay you know,

but why was that break confederal laws? I don't understand your copyright? Yeah, copyright, but um, but how is the copyrighted? Frenchman's the artist, you're a bootlegger. That's that's a mixtape. DJ a lawyer. When I told him what I did, He's liked, you need to stop. I said, you don't understand. But you don't understand. Yeah, that's the lawyer. I told him, mixtape, you need to stop that ship right now, even even because even the artists don't even really own the music.

Really yeah, as you you know what I mean? That was you know, so the corporate the corporate people, they they was running down on people. Man, it's getting and I heard my name tossed around, but you know what I mean, And they didn't run down like DJ Drama. Now, I didn't do that. I seen that and I was like, whoa, I mean that that was a good thing. I dodged that one, you know what I mean? So that so that was you didn't you do a bad boy mixtape?

I definitely did a bad one the first one. Yeah, I did the first bad Onoe mixtape because um, you know, half and them there was from my neighborhood, had from Queen's half. He's being Queens. I'm not seen myrix. It was all from around the way. So when they when he was doing a mixtape, they was like, yo, you know we want you to be on it, all right? Cool? So I said, you know, a Puerto Rican did not

open this out putter wecans. Don't someone use a knife to the open That's just gotta be a Dominican who open this. You did a little bit, all right, let me get you some more ikes. Man, you don't get a clue drunk. He can be smooth. You try and get me drunk, it's gonna be a long night. But remember I'm gonn club every night, so I've been drinking all time. So now, how was that was that your first time working with Pup? Well, actually, you know what I mean. You know we want a little bit. You know,

Pup wasn't really my good friend of mine. Time because he was mad because that big thing. So when he found out I was working in our city records, you know me, he called him Steve Stout so off was looking for me. W yeah, because it was Steve brought up in the same block, right or something like that, in the same name. Yeah, so m so when he called him there, man, like he didn't even know what was me answering phones like can I help you? Sean combs on? Is that keep clue? Like nine nine? I

ain't right, you know. So, I mean it was cool. We worked that, we smoothed it out though, man, and it was cool, like you know what I mean, Big became real cool and you the whole team. And then when I went to Brooklyn, I had to go brookekn to go pick up exclusive for Junior Mafia. I went by myself to you know what, we had to go in the Peace you know after the Yeah, yeah, I had to go to Peace and that I went to buy myself to go pick with the exclusives. Yeah. Yeah.

Back then I used to just be rolling around like I ain't kid, who wasn't rolling. I was just trying to go do what I had to do, you know what I mean? And so so how was it working with the Rockefeller when did you? Wasn't you also Rockefeller's first artist? I wasn't Rocking Fellers first artist, what I mean? I was the definitely the first DJ. Yeah, definitely the first DJ. I mean IRV Gotti had bought Jad meet

me at a Harlem music cut his music hunt. Damn that spot is closed the train stage everybody there, yes, so, um, you know, he was trying to get Jay's record broken. I think it was. It was either in my lifetime or was I'm not sure. It's one of them joints, but he was trying anyway, He's trying to get uh James records heard. So he was like yo, He's like yo, I want you hear this cat. I was like, all right, cool.

So I met him, you know, but you know, Jay's a real monotone, cool, smooth nigger, so he asked me too much. So he was just like cool. We met, alright, We're gonna get up cool, you know what I mean? And then what happened? So how did y'all actually couldn't? Then? Uh did Earth called me one night? He was like in the middle of a snowstone. I was I was in Queens. I was driving and he said, yeah, I got this record for you, man, I can come meet you. It's a fire joint. He said, you feel to mix

tabe no no, I offenished. Yet what you got I got director with with Jay Z and Foxy Brown. So so we came at me, gave me the joint and the fox. He is hot at this time on all not yet okay, and it is really whole, whole is loop hole, whole was heating up. He was heating up. Was hey, you know what I mean. I think a couple of songs had leaked that I heard, like the Evils and you know me on the first joint. So he was eating up and up. But with that joint, I knew he was like, you know, getting ready to

make some noise. So now choke no jokes. Said on the interview recently that day's the base the records on the tunnel based on what records Cool would play, and then they would big cat would take the records or like whatever you had playing on your ship, and the big Cat to take the records, and then they would know that this is a certified tunnel benger. But the secret was they was getting it from you, is that true?

They was getting the rex from me, like you're not not he it was, I mean, I mean different, I mean, I mean, I guess I mean I was. I was rest in peace, the big cat. I was cool with with cats PM, but they never used to really be in touch with me and nothing like that, Like you know, I mean like I was just doing my own thing, you know what I mean. I was kind of under the radar normally knew what I looked like, you know,

I was just moving around doing my thing. But it was cool like because you know, like I started bringing my tapes like after Queen's I was, I was going to school and downtown brook So I said, let me call the B Street downtown dropping tapes off. So I dropped a couple of tapes off. They called me next morning, like, yo, um, the tape you dropped off? You got some more um joints because I had I had to. I had to the method man and e H had that and I

had and had Yeah, how did you get that? Chill? Chill? That's old news to give those secrets. I can't. I can't do that. I can't, I can't. I'm taking to the grave with me and I had I had Live Nigga rap with Marv d N Yeah, also exclusive I had that off the cassette. Wow. A matter of fact, that that song they couldn't even find a real sport. What you hear on that, mom? The album is the cassette version, two track version. Yeah, because they somehow really

got lost or destroyed something. Is so now that first clue album, right, they come to you because I mean, do you feel like someonewhat like you inflex kind of settled up for college for college, like you know what college is doing is like you in flexes albums? Yeah, like the DJ Yeah definitely. So let's take us to that first album that they approach you or this is your idea to do an album? Make a mixtape? Ship man,

I was making so much bread. I wasn't even thinking about going to the label, you know what I mean. It was like it was then where I was like, you know, at that young age, you got so much. I was making so much bread, like I didn't even do it, like I just went around pocket falls of money like yo, Like it was like you know, go to atri and go spend bread, not clear it out

and just you know what I mean. But I mean, Earth came to me and yeah it was instrumental yea, and me Earthed a lot of talking, man Like when he was going to first break for for Death Jam. He's like, yo, man, let me ask you a questions, like what you thinking about me working for Death Jam. I'm like, yeah, why not? You know he's like beat really paying no money, you know what I mean? He said,

Leo wanted to work, but he's not really paying. My mom like you listen, it's more about the opportunity then this is about the money. Like you know, once you get in and getting the door, you'd be able to make that money times twenty, you know what I mean. He's like, you know what, You're right, You're right, You're right. And Earth got into the job at Death Jam for DJ Clue. Let's make not he took the job for him exactly. I ain't get no money exactly. But yeah,

so Earth came to me. He's like, yo, um when we talked to Rockefeller about doing you know what I mean, doing an album with you like me, I'm like, so it was Earth's out there initially, Like I mean, yeah, yeah, I wasn't really I wasn't really constrained. I wasn't really concentrated on building the brand, you know what I mean, Because I mean that would have been building the brand right there. Listen, brother, I had I had, I had no I know, I had hoving. Seriously, all that's a

different type of building the brand at that level. I was distributing the chain stores. I hadn't moving, you know what I mean. I mean, and the and the money they was offering me for it's definitely not gonna get sure. I was like, all right, it's like you put your weight every week, what your so many much made you wind up doing it with Rockefeller and mean, I thought it was a good opportunity, you know what I mean.

I said, you know, maybe I could even though I'm still something a bunch of mixages, I can make it on bigger scale and you know, get audiences across seas and stuff like that. Even though I was still already doing parties overseas and on and stuff like independently. I still felt like it was like, you know what I mean, I could get some of the bigger artists do something exclusive and make it and you know, back then, selling platform is a big thing. I thought Platinum, which I did,

you know, first right. I think Flex has plaques before you, but I think it was his goal. But um, so now all right, cool, So you come up with this album, it goes platinum. You at Hot ninety seven. How did you get to Hot ninety seven? From there? Um Tracy Clardy who was a program director time Um and Tracy Clary. I had went to the studio a couple of weeks prior before I got hired. You know, I listened to I listened to the to the Biggie album because Puffy

wanted me to pick two joints pim mix tape. So I listened to the whole album. It is Ready to Die yeah, and and to No No No after vickd Oh. So this is life out of Death. Okay. So um uh, Puff was like, you picked two songs you want and you'll give me you put on a mixtape, that's all right. So I picked Hypnotize and more Money, More Problems. Yeah, So I picked them two songs and I put him

on a mixtape. So I put them on mix tape, my voice on it, and like two days later Hot seven had it in rotation with my voice on it, screaming shoutouts. Everything from your mixtape yeah. So Tracy called me like, she's like, you're listening, man, She's like, listen, you might as well come work here, you know, I mean, let me, let me give you a show, and you know, and the show was the Monday Night Mixed Mix tape. So yeah, that's how that happened. Man, And then Fabulous

gets discovered. Well, I had you the show freestyleing. Yeah, so I had I had the inner worry of the free styling and um my, man, just skinning called. He's like yo, He's like, yea, I've been doing this cats for a while, but he got this. I got this kid that yeah, he got some potential. He's like, yo, He's like, I want you to hear him. I was like, I was like, all right, cool, it's like, not only am I gonna hear him, I'm gonna bring him up

and lit him freestyle right now. So when he got there, that was the first time, the first time I met him and heard him get the funk out of here. That's crazy. So he walked in. I met him. I said, you're ready. He said, young ready. I said, keep at the freestyle at the North down I have a check and get grab Mike, you know, me. So that's how

that happened. That's real, that's real training right there, like and he showed up to occasion like you know what I'm saying, Like every time I see fab you know, I always show him extra love because I just remember seeing the hunger that he had at that moment, and it was like nothing that was gonna stop him. And I was like when I when I piped that because I was in a battle. Not in the battle, excuse me,

but Shine and my son had had a battle. We were in a sight for me Shine and my song and my son looked at me like, nigga, you got your deal. Relaxed, relaxed like and then Mike became a my Song and Shine battle. So I remember that same look. Was like when we started riding with fat Fath looked at me like, slivee, you on already like and I just let him go. And and from that day forward he's been a star. Let's make some noise for Fabrics. Godaver, I'm very proud of that. So then so you saw

the vision right then and there with him. He was like you know what I'm gonna making because I heard he didn't even have a name. But now he I just heard him in that rap say it's the f A bolo us in the news cile in the US, and I thought it's hard. I was like, yeah, we're gonna roll with that, right. So so he when Skin sent him sitting this kid, he never said his name. I think he call him a sport back there, yport,

because that's what they said. Fabulous boy sp that's crazy, man, I had something that I had something to do with such a great person. I always get out the great stories about me. It's such a great Sometimes you gotta pack yourself on the back. So now cool, you did, you did the album, did the mixtape, Now you got this artist. Now I'm hearing this turmorial with fab in

the skull you go to death jam. But even before that, man like a lecturer, I mean trying to get the signs of paying the ask because you know everyone everyone looks at you is even with you being the hottest DJ, they still get hard. Everyone looks at you with that labels and the label is DJ, so they don't look. They don't look past you know, being a businessman and marketing and being to be able to produce and on

so um. Steve Stott had just got the job and in the scope I think he was the president of of A and all whatever whatever. He got a job with them on with Jimmy Ivan. Yeah, he got the job then and he called me like, yo, man, He's like, yo, don't you come work for me? Man, Like you know what I mean, like, come work from me? And yeah, because I had worked under him, uh you know, we had mob deep and um. So he called me and he was like, yo, once you can work for me.

And I was like, I said, I come up for you. But I said, I said, you gotta be a serious situation like normal. So he gave me a production deal and he's like, yo, I said, I got this artist, this kid fabrics, I'm gonna sign that. You want to sign him. I'm like yeah, are you sure? I'm like yeah. So he's like all right, bet. So they did the whole deal, production deal, vice president and uh that stuff. Yeah, after I left for a lecture. Yeah no, no, no, afterwards,

lecture was afterwards. After that was the first was first and then and then we we left. We left over there. So why do you think it's a lot of New York artists that have a lot of problems in the scope because it's in the scope primarily based in Los Angeles West Coast. So do you think that's the problem. I mean, sometimes that three hours off could be a difference. We had. We had, but we had a movement with the East coach offer stuff, you know what I mean.

They had just sound how it comes from the West coast. Jimmy Irvin living on the West. They had just signed Minel and they had just signed m and they just signed They forgot about you'll let's keep let's keep it real cool. They even forgot about everybody listen, listen to they just signed him though Jim Jimmy Avien's nephew, DJ was my Internet, that's my intern. Yeah. So they had Swing, Swing had albums, swin Tech had a compilation. Um, they was just working on the day, working on DR DRE

you know what I mean. So I was in in those meetings too, you know what I mean When I mean when I heard that album, you know, I was like, I was my album and I knew I knew what I heard that emin and my name is I knew that was going to be one of the joints. Soon he was white off Top or we got no I first heard the record, and I was like, you never seen him before I heard the record of Pride to me seeing Eminem, so I had no idea like when I see the videos like oh ship like because I thought,

I though Blacks what I'm saying. I thought he's just a funny dude. Yeah. But um so now your experiences. So now you was around rocket Feller when the rocket Feller was height, they were the the Dame and j Did you did you see it that coming that that that they would eventually break guard ways? I mean you could I think in the beginning though, right, No, no, nothing to be in the beginning, everything was smooth, but you could tell, like you know, there was little tensions

here and they're little fires. Had they get put out? You know what I mean? I mean? And that goes by any situation when you have you know, people empowering. You know, people start button heads and this presidents in charge this, this president in charge of that. Jay's back then Jay was kind of more in artist mode, but he still would like, you know, have his input and

stuff like that. But Dame was more instrument Like even was signing me, Dame was more instrumental in signing you know me and yeah, and you know that was really he was the one and Jim like I had cool his daughter, you know the type of there was. But but again, did you now later on when when did you first start seeing that this this ship might just stop? Um, I think I think I heard about it. When when uh, when I think with the whole, I think Dame made

Cameron the president or something like that. I think that's what the whole. Yeah, it seemed like from the Eltzi and I was kind of like, I was kind of like, I didn't I didn't understand that, like because I mean me personally, I knew I knew it was Jane Dan Big. So when they make of artist that, I was like, I cool, me, I understand the move came was hot as fighting. So I'm like, I in the move, but in my mind thinking like, it's Jay, gonna understand it

because Jay's artist too, you know what I mean. It's at the same time, it's like, you know, but whytt bleak? I mean, I mean, I mean, we'll listen. You know, Camdon Camon and they were signing the rock for the time, so you know what I mean. It was it was cool. It's so a family but at the same time, I'm thinking to my head and I know how Jay think. I'm thinking, like, Yo, it might be you know a

little bit of turmoil in with that situation. Who knows, but you know I was sending back watching you know, grab my popcorn in your opinion. When you see that it was like something's wrong. I didn't think something was wrong.

I just knew that something would be wrong. Later internally with this came because I don't know how built I felt like that, you know, because you know, usually Jay would like, you know, something happened, he would, you know, back then, he would get on his two way and you know I'm talking about you know what I mean. You used to have mad two way beats to do. You don't remember that he's that mad beating on your too?

What's our duroy? A matter of fact, if you out away from he got a record that he's mixing for me right now. So he's still mixing records. Of course, damn it. Do get a lot of money. Let's makes about probably about twenty to thirty Grammy's mixing. I've never been nominated for a Grammy. That's why we're doing an old award show. We got the ass eat of the

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these moments? Can we have other great moments in music? Again? Oh, this is just business now. It's it's it's it's tough now man, because it's different now nowadays, you could you could put out a song in in five seconds everywhere in the world. Back then, when I had an exclusive that yeah, hey exclusive coming man, like they'd be like, yo, man, it's supposed today Friday, right man, it's gonna be there Thursday. Man. Right, I'm I'm paying an extra money to get into you.

Take even it's gonna get to you in a couple of days. You know what I say, Now, it's like you press the button even by accident, the whole internet got it. So it's different that And I just feel like there's no unity, your mom. I think it's it's all a big competition, and it's because everybody's looking in not talking about this all the time. With social media, I feel like social media has made the world so

much smaller, you know what I mean. I feel like with everything, like if you even think about relationships, you see less people getting married, you see more divorces because everyone feels like there's more options out there, you know what I mean. And the same thing with music, you know what I mean, Like one second they love you too much. Later like they're not even paying attention to Yeah. Now,

music is a loyal business. Yeah, definitely very loyal. So now for my DJ's perspective, how crazy is it when the person sent you a record and you hate it. I mean, you know me a long time, you know how to play right now, I know what you gotta tell him. You gotta tell these keep it up. I keep it a buck with you, y'all. I need something else. I don't care how how you think it is. I don't care if you got every hot rap in America on it. If it ain't it, I'm gonna tell you

this ain't good one. And I've had I mean, I've had to sell I don't say no names. I had to come on drink people, please man, hair lit Man. Yeah, we have on hair lit Man drink drinking. We got graphic head for queens, got damn it. I had to tell a couple of people like, yo, man, I don't know if this is reckond now is that? Is that the mixtape? Or is that um when you're on the radio,

I mean, I mean, I mean both. Yeah. Now, if I'm on the radio and you know I've been wrong, but I've been right about ninety seven send the time name record was wrong about I slept on, Yeah, slept on. I'm thinking a good I don't think of a good record. Slipped the line and le m hm. I mean, I mean even recently, I didn't. I didn't. I didn't really like the the usher no little record. I thought, No, look,

that's hard clue you. I mean, I hope that's not the way it sounds every record, but just the way every record sounds, mumble mumble rap with you all. I mean, I played it because people liked it. But at the same time, I don't think seven years fro now people gonna play the record. For five years from now people don't play the record. But that's how I judged my Red My Records. Is it gonna it's gonna be a classic. Yeah, But I think I think, I think you're you're right.

But at the same time, I think people are making disposable music now. Like I remember back then, we used to make starts. That's real problem. Star text used to last forever. But right now I phone a Samsung blow up and blow up on you, nigger. You know what I'm saying. So people are making disposable ship like right now I can just start tech. Wouldn't break start tech, that ship fall. That's it. It's handy I phone right now.

That said my case over. Yeah, but you guys, when people making music, Yeah, but you canna understand what that does to you as an artist. If you start, if you start putting out dilated it's like, if you're putting out work, it's dillar to work. The fiends is gonna catch you at a minute. Even what happens is everybody has dilated work. That I can't say everything. I can't say everybody, but let's say that. Let's say that, like, uh,

people have dilated work. It's kind of like why not have the same ship I'm talking about for artists, I'm not. I ain't trying to make that. If I'm an artist and i'm and I'm gonna hop on a record that's for the moment. I'm gonna hop on somebody else's record that they're doing and put a first on I'm not for my name on it. And it's a difference between a career in a moment you think about that, Yeah, how you're a Faba said, right, no could tell me?

What do you say? What do you say? He said, right now, I get you the m v P. Don't to get you the Hall of Fame. You know what I mean? Right now? Good? What's going on? You'll keep looking at the mask and that's something like that. Something like that sound is that it's like the luminatis here cluminait. How did you? How did you come over that clubinati Yo? Man? First of all, do they think you in the luminati? Right now? I'd be people asking me that but had

nothing to do that. You've been in a little Binaty for years. Let's just so many years back. Early people always ask me that. But U now, man, I got the name clude from. I was like the board game when I was young, you know what I mean? Oh clue the boy get and being there. I wanted to be behind the scenes. When I first dropped my first mixtape, I had the name on that. You were people. I made it make sense. Yeah, we gotta get something, we

gotta get. I'm gonna get your something. Bell In for the drink chance shows bottom of that rose, from the frigerator things, bottom of that rose. But you know most my family, the family take every family young Salve Ricky Rose. So let me say, you just want to it by Rock and bell In. Actually I'm not sing with No More I mean, I mean I drink it, but I'm not I'm not sponsored by No More Hell because and he said the same thing, let's get into this rock.

Are you about to be ef? I don't know if if they called me and you to be talked about it. So I kind of swech early. Yeah, thank you, thank you, manure. I had I had some conversations with some of fifty people about doing some stuff, but I think I think being at um you know, being at I'm already you know, down with bell A kind of so what happened? You was down with the Rock but you're not working with them no more? What's the issue? Let's get to it.

I need to know. I mean, as as far as I heard, like, it was a lot of it was a lot of controversy. And when I was actually you know, promoting Rock as Spades and Bella at the same time, goddamn clue, let's make some luis clue getting that money. Got that's what we doing, were sponsoring everybody. You should have seen thoughts people, I mean like so yeah, they would,

you know, they would. It would come to be like you know what I mean, like not not puff, but you know some of the people who worked for, you know, around him, was like, yo, you're kind of posting a spaded a lot man likes something like, you know, is giving that we did not know? We need? Yeah, we need to you know, we need to Rock looks to be Dominante, you know what I mean. So I guess when it came around for that renewal a couple of years later, it was kind of like, yo, we don't

think we got it in the budget. Told us something about the budget today we all find it out version. Somebody give me a couple of a different cup. So now, but the bell at people they straight you're saying, yeah, bell is cool, and you I've been. I've been. I've been with bells the start I mean like the start, I mean like incubation stage. So I've been starts. So like you know, picking the colors the bottom, that's the fan. That now bell and bella and wing stop. It sounds

like a great combination to me. You get the wing stops. We gotta do the wing stop ross. That's the first thing he said to me. That was their fault though I know it was. And then the hurricane. Yet the hurricane was the hurricane fault. Yeah, so we're ready to go back and do the in store. So Graph come over here, real, let's have a queen's moment right now. Go over there. It might go over there, my brother. Yeah you know Graph right long time. Yeah, both from Jamaica.

You know how to break down queens Buses and trains, Like there's a you heard me say this before. Oh, this is how to breakdown queens. It's like busses and trains sections um, left frag Queensbridge Ravens was the story of what side you can all get through the trains, then it's the busses, the bus. I'm hurst you get through and train, but but it's buses too. But um then once you hit Parsons Boulevards trains. Yeah, so yeah, y'all agree with me on bugging out as I'm retarded.

You know, I'm the electric I look at everything in a different way. You understand what I'm saying, you cold? Yes? I am one more that point though, yea, So graph what's going on? Told to the people? Man, ain't she working my ass? Off? Man? I'm happy to be here with your niggas. Man, it's the loop, the clue to loot to you? Of course, if around when I get that cup when you around when the clue tapes was crazy, I was young, but I was around for the way

we was really chasing them. And I learned this in Paris. This call piecen like back but back then. Okay, yeah, I don't even know what that means, but it's south fly I mean too much phone in that. Don't worry about it. I've learned that in France. Come on, you'll let the pacing, yeah not the clue tapes was what it was back then. That's that's how niggas is getting

exclusive music for sure, sure sure, sure sure. Now tell the people where you're from in Queens, so everybody know I'm Jamaica, man, away from Rosdale and Jamaica, like really like fatching Um and Merrick. You know what I'm saying. And then clue where you from? Queens? Tell you Nigga's speech spring Freeling, tell him where you from? He's supposed to say left, friend, anybody asked me, I all to say, you know what, I just want to say something like I'll be I'll be slacking a little bit on the

left frank shots. It's not on purpose though, because I don't be over there checking out on them because I'm not there. Yeah, alright, I used to be over there, you know what I mean. You don't see any used

to come to my curse. Come, come pick me up, come can free style listen clue man in case I never told you, man, I appreciate everything we did on the come up, and you know, for you to continue doing what we're doing, for me to continue doing we're doing, I just feel like, you know, we I know we're both proud of each other. Every time each other we asked, We asked, you know who's drinking? Who's drinking on your graph? You drinking some mom Rose drinking about drinking. This is

about better drink. Both butter hit he didn't drink all the time. Both came here and made a Jeffrey he took we had mad and he took bottle and put it all in one drink and we'd drinking. And then it ain't a lie man puff he savage with it man, because clue, you've been partying all over the world. Who who Who's the one person you see that you don't want a party with because they take it too far? Artist wash, It don't matter what the artists what cous

of mind? First man, Big Scottie Scott, the animal Scott. He gets super wasted, super he's the team wins to seem captain. Okay, grab how about you? Who's one thing that you It's like, damn, this nigga is too crazy. Niggas from my hood really like a couple of niggers. I'll be around to get so ways that they want to shout him out. Yeah, they want to m m my one of my niggas. Hell, he get crazy, you get crazy. He used to want to get drunk and robb niggas and fighting. He's the one of Robb niggers.

I'll be around like rap niggers don't come. I know what changes really, I'm like nigga no, yeah, like I'll be in the spot with it. I said, I want to call niggers names. Who Who's who? He'll be looking at. I keeps to happen. I don't even bring the niggas around because I don't want to get in situations. So exactly my nigga I didn't speed. Yeah, they need to be handy, you know, like certain niggers. I don't bring

around them morgas. They're not to act now like like like I got a couple of that's a drink chance, a couple of niggs and they have to get throw under the bus. But in general, remember there's two rappers in particular that I was gonna be around. And when I'm in a club with him, he'd be saucy on the block and he'll call my phone like, yeah, when you get there, I'm just gonna come in there. We ain't gotta know what together. So let's say one raps over there once over here, so I'm gonna come into

the spot. I'm gonna do a bottle of that nig when everybody looking there, I'm putting the gun strategy. I'm like drunk strategy. That's what I'm in the spot. My phone is off. You stay in the hood forever. I'm not bringing you nowhere like drink there. So look check it. We just had Jada kiss on here right, and me and Jada kiss and e FN spoke about like the beef now right, like the things just happening in the

hip hop now. So I asked Jade that, I said, but when you was worn with like you know, stay property and stay property, you know whatever he said. He said, although you know it's beef now, He's like, but back then it was like real even like no nothing got into physical. Do you agree with that? Like what ship was happening in the nineties the early two thousands, I didn't see so much someone ship pop off like I mean, look,

I was not for nothing. I was there when the when the biggest ship popped off in l A. Yeah, I was. I was like, they wasn't come out of the party all weekend and then I just seen it was like about prob one thirties, about half an hour left in the party, and what about one forty? I see season big pull up in the party. I'm like, all right, cool, like you know what I thought you wasn't coming out. N came to chill for company. This is the buy party party. And and then biggest seams like, yo,

we're doing We're doing a barbecue to morrow. Want your DJ? I said, all right, cool. Problem. So me me being me, you know, I'm from from Queen's from you know, from the hood. I'm like, Yo, was getting late. I'm gonna get out of here because we gotta be we get a mansion party that I was throwing track masses up master. Yeah.

So I had, I had broke out. I had I had the new the new Bends drop top I had rented, and I thought I was doing something, you know what I mean, And I said, let me get out of here. You know it's too much going on. Let me get out of here now. Smoke poker. So I hopped in the car and left and I got a call like about half an hour like, dude, Biggie got shot. I'm damn. I'm like we'd when you said when it popped off, I'm thinking you saying like when the beef started, you saying, yeah,

I was. I was at the actual party. Wow. Yeah man, soon I heard that and then, um, I didn't know was showing that, you know, I mean it could have been room. I didn't shooting that. So I was gonna be it was all in the in the house party. It was like it was like the Lives Mary Leiyah, like a bunch of people and you know what I mean, the party was about to be lit the house party is you never the thought from the party that something was gonna pap And then we got the caller, Yo,

big dim and damn, get the funk out here. So I told I told Chris leidyea the worst start going around and they were like, yo, man, we ain't going out of him. Man Wilson tran in case y'all don't know this. The Elliott Wilson we're telling me gets a good story popping. Yeah, it's hard that he get into basically going in right now, Sally is working over Tom. Let's speed out of you. You keep it continue its yeah,

but up sorry look ahead. Yeah. So, um, yeah, we heard about now we were just like you know what I mean, I called seeds, gave my adonces and I'm like, yo, I was trying to find the first flight out of them, right like with that whole each coach. Around that time, I'm not gonna lie. Around that time, it was nervous going on the alley, like it was just nervous literally when losing them all because I had went to the mall with Nas. I remember Nas, and Big wasn't speaking

at the time exactly. So I go to the mall with Nas and it's all Macy's. I'm I'm with NAS, and I see bigging them you know me and bigging them is cool and you know the rock, So I say it was something to them in Nazis kind of kept walking. He wasn't really speaking to them, and it was like little kids. And then he was like throwing the game signs and Biggie like, Yo, what's side outside? Going crazy? Yeah, but not to Nas. Nah, wow, Na

it was. It was kind of awkward, but at the same time it was like, you know, I wasn't really thinking too much other I didn't know how serious it was until thencing that happened. Yeah, that's christ piece of the big So um does Clue like streaming music? Streaming? Yeah? Yo, man, Clue just be to uh a five five thousand foot facility in Houston. I'm actually going into Mars for Clue Radio. So you're gonna hear about that. So we got to you have to talk to you. But we're gonna talk.

We're gonna talk what we're gonna Clue Radio even Power one over. It's a whole separate entity man, Like you know, I mean, I got the Clue Radio app coming out real soon, So you're gonna you're gonna hear about that. That's all. It's all drink chat. You know. We support artists, we support our legends over here, you know what I mean. So you got the Clue app. You the Clue Radio app. It's gonna be the website. It's it's gonna be serious that it's gonna be serious, bro. Trust So and is

it gonna be music there? So it sounds like, don't I don't want to give you too much info, but I will come back to the drink chats from the launch. I will come back so I will give you the whole rundown. We're doing another album. I actually I actually have an EP done. I gotta EP done. You know what I mean, I got, I gotta, I gotta. I gotta tell you was mixing a single for me. I miss you. Yeah, I gotta enjoy it with uh with the rest of piece of chins, got d chinks, Little

Wayne implies some about to put out. Wow. Yeah, so's it's fired too working over time. You gotta come on, you gotta let him leve. So now you coulduce a classic record for me that people always like, I swear to guard his body and the trump and then it's at stop lock. People always be like, Yo, why you ain't shoot a video to that? Because in that record, I say I'm in Miami, Like that's like my first time in Miami. And I said that on the record, Like how did that come about? I know how it

came about. So what I'm saying, I mean, I know he's not I know he's in the studio. And that's that's when you was you would like them it a Neptunes artist. Yeah, yeah, I think I think we was in I think he was in right track, right track that was in the basement and you told me to play some beats and so we started. We started going through some beats and you know what I mean, and the whole vibe came out, and I said, we need to make it something with the Spanish that you make

it nice. Let's do something spinish. That's that's why he get there's the Partnapple ship over too. It's like, that's that's not really Latino right there, Like you gotta stab both, come on, you know better since since the great Goose days go ahead? Yeah, so um, I mean, yeah, that side of record came about. Man, that's that's that's definitely a classic joint though, the classic joint. That's one of the two most um um requested, like because you know,

that's what we're trying to do. Like, um, I don't really want to record new music. But if I record new music, don't be mad at me. But right now, I don't chance an EP done too big Justice League. We got a whole EP done. But right now I'm chilling, you know what I'm saying. But if I wasn't, dude, I wanted, I would like to do a body in the Trunk video that crazy bring what I'm saying, but I'm out, uh like new style, but it would be the same song and we get debuted on a clue radio,

the guy ain't doing it. That means this platform also does videos. We already know that we're breaking stories, breaking ahead. That's all that's listen. I was just gonna clear the freestyles did over the Drede Beach member. Those three styles give a nigga two way. He think he's CEO your clue, man,

I ain't front. I had to tell us to envy yo y'all single handedly was like because I got to see y'all work, see the thing about it, and you know eneries from my block right he literally lives six houses up outside of the street literally, but that was the crazy ship was to me see y'all work, like to see y'all go in any hood and go grab yeah. Remember there's no email back then, no, not at all, to get exclusive whatever physically going to have like you

know dos effects me. He's kind of my mom's basement recording. It's like, you know what it is, you know what I mean, like anywhere Keith Murray, I mean, I mean jay Z practice for his first show in my basement Earth that y'all are such a part of like hip hop fiber, Like this is crazy fibers Hill. I don't know what technically would it mean if anyone, anyone right now can name the chip who sung the hook on, ain't no nigger we get we need to give him,

give him hold on. This is sucking me up now because I'll be swearing I might hip the story because it was it was, It was her And I don't even know anything we got as here? Has it it sound Google that ship don't even know. I don't might not even know that one man. I ain't gonna lie Google. That's that's a good one. But you said she went to the cle ain't gonna know that. Trust me. It's

a Google. Don't work Wikipedia. She is Wikipedia that whatever she's doing their life, she's somewhere saying that was me. That's a fact. She's definitely using that card. You have to come on. That was like the first breakout record for jay Z. What was what was? What do you think was your biggest record that you have? See it depends on it's Super Doug sometimes as far as bringing you to the world, Super that would be the biggest record.

The first record, Yeah, the first so first crossover record that definitely a super was on that right, No, what'slie? Who's something that? Damn, you're trying to put me under the she did that, but I was trying to keep you. Didn't you say that? She sang that part? Who No, that's not Colise, that's not Elsie. I'm listening to that. It wasn't Tammy Lucas either, right, was it Tammy Lucas? Um? Damn? I don't know. I'm with like you, we don't find out record. I wanted to heys smoking a walk ground

graphic over here drinking. I'm trying to pay stuff. I know what's Hound's gonna yourself? Now when you come to when you come to Miami, do you do you play Miami Records? Or or you say? You know what? I'm a day here for me because I'm from New York. I mean I think as a DJ who traveled around the country, I think I'm well around this, so you know what I mean. I think I played a little

bit everything. But you know what I mean, because like I was probably the first DJ, like I said, he was playing South music in New York, Like when I first started playing Cash Money Records, and everyone like yo that man, like yo, are you are you playing that? Why are you playing Why are you playing jupil now high? What is? What is that? I was playing blame bling I tay Hi and then I told j about it. That's how Jay got. I told Jam about it and he was kind of sleeping on it. Then he was

on promo. We went to Atlanta and you heard on the radio and seen in the club and he was like, yo, I need that. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like I was the nigger that put niggas on the high because I had. I had went to New Orleans like for a Spanish party, which was very awkward, and I came back to New York and I was like, huh, I did, mate, that's what I'm saying that And then know what I was

talking about. I didn't know his name. I couldn't be like, yeah, that's the net that I just like, that's all I knew. If they want to be high, I always I always knew. To me, I always thought Wayne was gonna be You knew was going to be the student because all of them want the record in the nine out had the whole Yeah, because I had. He was doing fab album and I had, and they asked me what you artists?

I wanted to do record? I still got. I still got the record with him and Wayne that we heard Fab said that the record, yeah, because when we didn't finish the record. But I actually, you know, man, if I had actually cut a check for that, I cut. I mean I cut because Baby was like, you listen, if you want single rights and video rights, let me know now, so you cut the whole deal, single rights, album rights in the video game. I cut the check. But we never anything, and that record with that record

doesn't exist. It's a man, right now, keep you using your drop. Let's me playing on the podcast to me and Little we're ready. We're ready to go to the podcast right now. It's still in my crib on a cassette. I still got it, but I've never heard I got. I got a bunch of records like that. I got like I got whutang randkids. I got NAS records. That's crazy, nigger records, real full fled records. They never been heard. What was the reason you never put them out? The

only nigger with him? Too many of them. Probably that's why I'm so I'm so respectful with mine, you know what I mean? Or you would have doctor dre type like perfectionists. Some of these wasn't right. First of all, let's be clear, when Drey was working on this album and he was supposed to put out the detail, you know, but I heard about four records fire. He gotta record with Loewayne and Miek Milner's so fire. He got wrecked with married that's so fire. But you probably you probably

never gonna hate. But he got it. Don't think, don't think he ain't got him, because he he got He got him. He got guys I heard and I want to say I heard those about three to four years ago. That's great, so they existed. He got him draping out the detox where y'all fail. Hip hop is going now like at this point, at this point to the sewer, you don't got to people. Yeah, I mean, I mean, like I said, with with the age of the internet, man, it's like it's it's hard man. It's a hard thing. Man.

I'm trying. I'm trying to I'm trying to actually feel it out and see, you know where it's going. But it's but in the last two years have been a lot of one hit wonders, you know what happens though, I think a lot of niggas just never learned, Like I like all wrap that's out. I'm a fan of all types of ship, but I think a lot of all that stuff out now never really learn how to wrap. Like It's like it's like a sport to me. So it's like if you played basketball, you watch the players

before you know what I was doing. You know what the fun was doing before you went to the league. The same thing in boxing, you watch the tapes, you know, how do you learn your move? Some fucking tyson to somebody. But it's what you're saying coming from a lyricist perspective, from from a lyric and like a fan, because what you say is that our generation dropped the ball in I think. I think the waves can catch you and bring and bring you to a point. But can you

consistently staying on top of the wave. That's what it is. You know, like you might get a record and it could be the highest record out of the time, whatever, whatever, But can you stay off low? Can you stay on the wave and ride the wave? But what is the

wave now? Because now there's artists to find their audience online and they've got hundreds of thousands of followers and they do festivals or concerts or whatever shows and nobody even heard of that artist, and they have no because it's different what quote unquote, the wave is different now because of the Internet and the way that people get to their and and I always I always talk about all the time to this day, and I say, like, you can't you can't blame the kids of this age

for liking the stuff that they like, you know what I mean, like because it's what they know. What we know is what we know, and what they know, what they know they can only they can only know what they've heard. They can't they can't relive our moment. Obviously, they're they're living their moment, you know what I mean. So they had some ship, you know what I mean, that they like, and then their little kids and they like, wait until we dancing. We're doing this. You can't get

mad at that. But at the same time, you know, you're probably being you, being from our ir you're not gonna expect it the same, you know what I mean. Like when we came up, if you had an album and you was wrapping on there, it stayed on the shelf, you know what I mean. Nowadays, if you hear a record and the ship is hot and you could download and you ain't gotta paid for it, and you could

dance with the club. You're cool with it. But if you brought an album back then and they had only two hot songs on it, you feel you got jerked. You wanna take it back. So it's it's different, you know what I mean. But you know I'm not saying on the type of that because I'm a fan of most most of the like a lot of news that this is out now Mama rapped, But ever niggers on the collar, I still ride to the ship becau. Niggas got dope melodies, dope beats, and the records in general adopt.

But no matter what genre a rap you do, in my opinion, they put a beat on, you should know how to fucking spit the verse, and they take the beat off. You should know how to spit the verse. Period. Did you know the basics of any craft you're doing if you would work for ups? No, I didn't drap that fucking package and drop it off without shadow Rower's in that ship. You gotta know the basics, you know.

What I'm saying, in my opinion is something that I think kind of got over with it and got lucky, I would say, and not even learn the basics of the ship. And it's like the only sport you could do that and know what I'm saying, So that's the only part I'll be like, it's only amount of time before you get exposed though, So it's like, you know, it's like anything else true, but you can still wait up to being exposed in the sport because the rules

don't matter no more. There's no like respect for the art of it. You could you could, you could knock out the top box with a with a lucky punch. Yeah, you know what I mean. It don't mean you're gonna be able to get in the ring consistently exactly. Yeah, that's the fact that, you know what I mean, it's got real hip hop right now. I like that. I mean I think sometimes we honestly underestimate some of the young cats because it's so many of them and they

have their own audience. Like for example, I'm gonna give you an example. For a long time, nobody paid attention to Kendrick because he had early early yeah mix tapes early, and eventually that what he did because the quality it rose, it rose, You know what I'm saying, and people was underestimating the youth following that lyrical movement, and they did you know what I'm saying, He found his audience and

the audience obviously was bigger than life I say. And there's a lot of artists like that, like a Joey Badass too in Miami got Denzel Curry. But for example, it's like you might ask someone next to you, do you know who this is? They do not know who that artist is because it's the landscape of music is so broad. The Internet allows you to have a lane that you have hundreds of thousands of of listeners and fans, but the next guy next to you doesn't know who

you are. And that's where we're at now. It's like a weird space. Definitely, Definitely, it's crazy. Space is crazy. Listen, man, I think hip hop. I think hip hop is a vehicle for you to you know, get to feed in and do something else. Yeah, I agree with that. If hip hop is your only hustle, it's you're not doing the best thing in life. Because that's that's why at the beginning when they said, uh, sometimes the rap game of my mare, the crack game that was then because

it can. It can actually financially equal that. Now it's not to do what you want, but if you hustle smart, you can hustle rap right in this game, you gotta be able to hustle. You've gotta have multiple hustles diversified. You can't put um oh your eggs to one I tell people all time, you can't put your eggs in one basket, all right, now, you can't. I learned that from watching your niggas. I mean watch I watched Swizz

one time at a fucking video shoot. He had like at least Keys on the record and Little Wayne on the record of Mad Niggers. But then I've seen hell of sponsors to the video shoot. Monster and his drink it was this. It was that. I was like, I would have it's been a Monster energy drink. Yeah, they love tell him, Come come, I'm not drunking this episode. Hook on, Yeah, you gotta be deemon something opinion. So who got cigars? Clue broke down that real DJ history?

So was that considered legal tender when y'all did like the mixtapes appointment Like you couldn't claim it like an album, Like hell no, no, that's that's like selling drugs straight up, no where, straight up. They treated y'all like that. Yeah. The dude I told him, Mark Ferman. He's from Miami. He had to distribution mixtape called Hip Hop Connection. He was one of the biggest mixtape distributors in the world. He got rated by the Feast. They raided him like

he was Al Quaeda. I know, I know, I know a couple of a couple people who got rated. He was one. There's another dude who was just he was just. He wasn't even selling ship. He would just downloading videos and songs and fetuated his credit, took on his computers, his famous computers. It was ugly, man, Yeah it was. And then when I when I've seen when I've seen, you know, they readed drama and they had to be it's on flat beds, and I was like, damn, yeah,

that's a bad feelings. Believe it. In the other mixtapes of some Real Ship and Somebody go over the bone, come over nigga got Yeah, you got the permits. I don't crack drinks something that coming Ricans going out part Ricans right now, and you Pandemanian clue not all fully Pandermania, right, half half and half. This nigger as an island up. That's big. That's big up for him to learn out, you know what I mean, let's make that up. You just learn how to wear socks. It's just just keep

it real. At the moment. Skin know what's going on? Crack, what's going on? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, a little clue. You know how legendary this nigga is. Were just in Carolina? Yeah, in the middle that all you can eat. We just North Carolina, right, Yeah? What was that? We had some weird ship. Yeah, that's ball. We had to get some real go to the We did it. We did a

dope right, it was that's yourself. Welcome to play a new podcast network featuring radio and TV personalities talking business, sports, tech, entertainment, and more. Play it at play dot It. We're back to Drink Champs Radio with Rapper and R and DJ Ya listen, man, I just want the people to know that we do this ship for real hip hop, um, every other genre of music. They support their legends and it's a platform to support their legends. A lot of

people ask us a lot of times. While we don't interview the new Niggers, and we have nothing but love for the new Niggers. I've never said anything bad about anyone of them. It don't matter. But I want to continue to support my culture, which I know, which e FN knows. Ship people who put in work, you know what I'm saying. Some people who made millions, some people who made ten thousands, some people who made hundred thousands. There's we don't care. We want to keep our culture pushing.

You don't want to kill all legends overhead drink camps. That's that's what we do. So and these stories and stories include who went in, he finishes Drake, but he went in, come on finishing? Come on, I ain't drinking up. I've never seen this. Pick it out and clue you're a basketball nigger. Yeah, actually, we're trying to play ball today, man, Like did you play ball? No? No, no, we're trying to play ball today. Like I was serious with your ball.

I say that GW mad They got a um on the nineteenth floor, but it was tied up today and we couldn't even play today. I was man, but right, yeah, come on, I'm on Pete Crack Coke Caine, So y'all was on tour together Pete Crack. Will you ever to clue? Nah? I can't too late. I was gonna. I was using the rock the tour right, Yeah, I was, yeah that tell skill using clue gone to be honest, you, I

only went on two tours. I went on tour with UM the Heart of My Life tour and I went on Talk Mariah carry In the second time to time I et you to say that hold on that ship, Yeah I was. I was really trying to focus on my radio ships. So whatever, I'm still gonna come on. Right. That was a home Girl too. I was really um the second tour, I put us one on because I was like, you know, I couldn't. I didn't want to do every day. So I started putting him on with that and then and now now he's on to the

full time. He's doing they get stuff and all that. Yeah. Yeah, put yeah, I like, I like like she's supposed to do. Yeah, no hate put your people. Oh man, that was all so listen, this is what we want to do. We don't go to the story tonight. We don't know, um, when are we going to drop this? And they're gonna drop I think it's dropping midweek like Monday next week. No, yeah, this week coming up Wednesday, Monday Wednesday, you know something like that. Let's want to pick up all the podcasts

out there before big up all the podcasts. Want to big up our own crew as of this sound who got the biggest podcast out there? Come on? That was a sad way for you to big yourself far? Yeah that was you did it alright now I wasn't. Oh yeah we did two point two million. Yeah, last technical clean technically, technically we're being like some radio stations, because some radio stations only do I'm not gonna lie in

my niggas. Hey, I'm happy for y'all. Man, Yeah, thank you, because nigga niggas, I'm having to be out you go. We're having fun and all we're doing is celebrating hip hop. So everybody should be a part of this, every station, every people, because you all got history and listen and you know, and big up to the people who be hitting up saying, you know, you know, I want to do it when I got something going on, It ain't

about that. It's about to sit down and talk about your and then maybe whatever you're doing you got going on, maybe you're helping you know what I'm saying, Like we don't know. Um Like so next uh coming up? You know, Jeezy be dropping our episode with jess Day. I don't care. That's okay. We're letting Jesus episode out on Jesus Day. Because I had to think like a promotional guy. I

had to think like an artist. I'm like, if I have, if if we have this platform and it's supposedly as as big as it is, why wouldn't we help the artist? So Jesus, we're supporting you fully. He asked me, no death, jam ain't call us. There's no payola, Like, this is what I'm saying. I hunting. Jez came in, kept it really drink au bon. He sweated like sunny d D and had fun with us. Yeah, last night, him and Davies, they came through the aces and aces and turned on me. Now,

good dude, man, that was a good show. The fan blew about thirty thou singles. I should have when you should have asked about you got you got to drink chance, gotta come through the aces, man, let's running you running the aces. They got a spade in it. Whatever you need, you whatever you need, make sure you got it, don't worry about that. So you know, before we get up out of here, I just want all of y'all to shout out your ships, tell you what you got going on.

You know what I'm saying, And I want to say thank you because, like I said again, over here and Drink Champion and about no drama and about no beef is about bigging up our people. Because if we ain't going to big up our people, who the funk would big big up our people? I want to give your flowers while you can smell them, and I'm gonna smoke trees with you when you can hell them. You're I'm a real dude. I've done it, I've had fun. So Clue tell them what's next. We know the app and

were beating um that Drink Champs. We feel like more than that. It's more than that. Tell us I'm not a lot of apples. It's it's the Clue radio app. You're gonna be able to download the pipe about thirty to forty five days, you know what I mean. It's gonna be of course, follow me on Twitter, Instagram at dj Clue, and on Snapchat. It's the DJ Clue Show and you catch me on Power in New York. That's right, Big on the Friday six or ten pm, the number one,

the number one show in the city. You know what I mean, the number one city in the world. It is what it is crazy I I say something the Clue testament, like he really do break records, you know, Clue broke Bring the Goons Out. That's the only record I've ever had at radio, and he broke that ship. He went and the city went crazy for the ship. And even I gotta I always lose you when I see you, because nobody ever broke a graph record on the fucking radio. He took a chance. Like I'm like it,

I'm going every time I thank you. I can't. I can't tell you how many records I see in Clue Break. Yeah, that's the real ship beginning. That's just don't so you know, I've got to shout that out. Let me shout out all my ship fun. That ain't the best emotionally I got. The album Puto called pain Killers Beloaded a couple of months ago was dope bro hip hop shich. I know.

I come from the era where I want to hear a real rap, but I take the the old school and mixes a new school and get y'all the future. So when you'll hear it, y'all see, I got my big homy bum Bey on there, and I got a joint produced by Pete Pete Rock with a voice to five nine on. I got the Lives on the whole project. I got Jada kiss Chet and styles Pe on different records. But then I got my nikel whis Khalifa on there, and I put Jade on the song with Wiz. You

know what I'm saying. So I just be doing some you know, I'll be cheffing up with a sign to tell a game. At one point he was kicking it about that a little bit, you know what I'm saying. But we're just good friends, man, And shout to Wisklifa, shout out of the hotel of gang and ship. I mean, so I just want to say that, man, support independent hip hop, Support independent hip hop, celebrate that ship, complain

about what's side. If you make supporting what the funk you like, So go online and please stream the ship by it even though it streams rip us up a little bit. I thank you very very much, because I still make money off the music. However, you get it, just buy it. My graph is in mind album. I appreciate that support. Just buy the ship. What I'm saying, don't get the bullleg help me help, let me help you.

How are you still make buotlegs? Yeah it's crazy cy normally I'll say, but has it on YouTube right now? The independent ship. What I'm saying, So that's pain killers be loaded and get that. My Instagram is g F g R a f H. Snapchat is Lord of Mercy, you know, like Lord Have Mercy. I'm Jamaican, so we function up Lord of Mercy on Snapchat, funk with a nigga. And like you said before, you know, I used my platform to do over things. I got a clothing line call Gang NYC. This is one of my send me

no clothes. I sold out on tour. I w oh, y'all. I'll tell the truth. I went on tour with Rot the Five. Now, I was my first tour and everything sold out on the road. Everything I came back with just the empty boxes of ship. So I just never told me that, ain't I never told me that we're small guys. He's starting out, he's still learning this ship should like right there. I just gotta deal with with with the factor in China brand new. We're still learning

China connect. We just started and looked out for a drink chance radio on radio, separate programs several you know what's going on? You pulling the hand with Ferrari's Lamborghin.

What's up you gott man? You're looking to the mic advertising the six six episodes of SNAPA next week, David, So my single shooting the video that asked for we should a video six five South A little tricky, you know in the building that we got to North Carolina connectic connected already and they didn't even say North Carolina. I said Nerve Carolina. You know, I like the Spanish for real, Like, yeah, I'm working with North Carolina from now. What came up to me today? I know I'm in

the ocean drop from the NBA. You know about the game on the podcast you're popping. I don't even know you guys. Thanks, you know right now, but I gotta enjoy this. Yes, let's make I was skinned on my dagger man. Anybody, don't forget crack. Don't forget crack. I'm coming hold on. Yeah, I had a whole a little separate thing for you because remember I kept telling you trying to put take off your hat. Now you want to come over like ship, like Tony down up people

like me. Yeah, shout out Danny gotta see it too, This is ship, right even man, Danny got out, Danny got a little bit shut out. Danny got to see it with the dope mind. You know what I'm saying, I love this little boy ship. But shout out you nor you man. See, I'm happy for you. You know what I'm saying. I'm really really genuinely happy for you because I know like we did a two point to this mainly. But the only people that's not happy for you,

people that's not really associating close with you. See, I'm happy because I'm your friend, and I know that I'm gonna be cool too. When just rich ship, I know I got somewhere to go to. But now, yeah, man, I was king over pretty much talks the talking. I just say, I'll just be cool. What we're going, what we're doing. You shout out, shout out Johnny J three six five salt Man, really big man, just watch us man, just watch us man. The PD crack ring ring. I

love y'all. Niggs man. Well, I'm thank you, thank you Graf, thank you Clue, thank your old skinning on and listen, this is what we're gonna do. We want to show out to our whole drink Champs, Army. You know what I'm saying. Everybody left frack from again. I shot to

hold Jamaica from Heavywhere in Jamaica. Shout out to hood shot the shot that we're not shot to him is dead Springfield and all that you know we knew Kendall, Kendall, shout out, shout out the dead section one sex two second, threes forces five for you something to have night nights Iraq always Well, look, I wanted some shout to the dream champs on me. You don't want to shout out to Hazardus, want to shouts of Sunny d I want to shout out to Roster Drain, to Twin Big Drain.

I want to shout out to Calito. Want to shout to Mr Lee And you know what I'm saying, My niss, rest of piece of money bags, BUNNYA, Paul eric Um Jose, you know what I'm saying. Richie Blanco, Kevin, Kevin, where you at? What up? Kevin d to Barbara Roster and New York styles. Caltho, my cousin's he's he. We gotta get him back on the Marrigan grounds. Pick up to Boris, Mr Lee, Starrock clothing, everybody you know, nigga stop something here from Peru. Yeah, the Peru niggas is cooked up

from the coming niggas. My homie from coming home. Peru is here. Niggas ain't moss a lot. Yeah, because okay, they're gonna kick somebody couch at some point. But Yo, so we're gonna go to the club. Story Um, hopefully we're gonna see the drink chance to read the drink chances. It is true. I'm gonna do another about a rose.

But you ain't finish your drink. But you said, you said okay, so you said you could do it all night though, Yeah, because you pause because you will go from Vegas like, I'm in a couple all the time, so you know, I'm always drinking, so it ain't but safe of sounds in the club all the time. He never drinks. What do you say to this and listening? You gotta get focused. He gotta get focused, So he

just gotta start drinking. Nigga said, don't drink. I gotta say that if you if you were alcoholics, you know, if you if you're recovering alcoholic, then it's like, I cool. But then you put on Joe Biden too, because Joe Buddy. Listen, he just said I talked about podcast, talked about it on because Joe was my man and the only reason why I talked about on the podcasts him and Envy had beef. So why Envy was here? What any come

when they had to loose? What happened Joe? I just was bringing it up because you ht in the podcast world and you amv had beef like get back and forth. Yeah, there ain't gonna be nothing because you put your then that was the whole clue. When you put on fast I signed, I gave the Envy album deal. I had my deal epics ony. She put Envy because Joe at death jam. You know, put Joe and fabulous. I'm not really about paused to my horn, but you know, put a lot of it makes a noise for Djack that,

let's sake, takes a look beaty track. Having a perm you didn't want you didn't want to give us the perm story here, so you gave it the b T you know on the load, like if you think about it in the media says I knew, I knew you had a plan. Like let's say, talk that ship. Yeah, how you talking ship? I wanted to show it on drink that ship. You're gonna do it for us? N you read the bet said all that ship, but what's

what's property? But what you said he would have to stay property when you're bet and you showed him to here like that, everybody tell me to warn me about you bet. Don't cool that nigg you're watching story, I'm like, y'all cool, I don't really guts you watch though, watching breaking man, if you go back to the episode, I kept saying, took them yeah, because I knew it was something because it was like it was like it was it was a breaking story. My ship wasn't no breaking story.

This is the breaking story. You just got a big crazy curly fro at that time. My ship puts some heat on my ship. Ain't no chemicals though. Yeah, it was a perm Yeah It'stagram whole Instagram yet permed out. I ain't that. But that's your black size, I mean, that's your Puerto Rican side. Team. It's out of perm. Black people call out a perm just because you just because you want every one stitches on there. You just

kid you number one. I can number one though I ain't boll I never saw yeah, do not at some point that people think that I'm balldin all right because I've grown my shirt out just to be petty. Don't want to give you prepping. You're prepping for the ball. Nah nah no VT. My grandfather he died with a full head of head. Both of my grandfathers died with the full head of hair. I'm great. I'm thinking my genetics as I get that purp shit out of you.

But listen, playing like, let's keep it real. Don't keep it real, keep it real because he made a North Philly. That's a lot of Spanish niggers. What do y'all call it again? No, it was the other big rule. This is a lot of Spanish telling us a perm and black conny condition and some heat. That's then my mother just say you ball ball. I'm gonna prove myself bring the hair back. I'm let's take your ad clue. Let's

see let's see yeah, no, but I do see. No, you got a little bit of George Jefferson coming back. I expect that coming in, but I can pare you wrong. Puerto Rican back two dayson. Just cut, I'm gonna I've dressed my Friday. I'm just storing it out. And my father, my father used to take. My father used to drink, and when he ain't drink, his head wight grow. But when he drank, his hair grow. The next day he would shave itself and the next day, So I got

that same thing. That's true. What I'm saying, go to you the next day. No, yeah, yeah, basically here his ship just grow right back. This is this real fun and you pay him Indian and Jamaican. Absolutely. How many kids you got? Mad? Bitches want your kids? If you my man, he's down with the leave it in gang. That's not me, not clue, not married, You ain't none of that got in. Girls gonna shit on you right y you do. Graphy ass. She gotta be phenomenal. Man.

The pussy is getting If she's not, she's bad enough to pussies. He's getting handled. But extra, they asked, question, is skino elevator the elevator ride down? Clue ass, she gotta be phenomenal. I gotta be looking at that bas like, oh my god, I'm living graph Is on play with It. She gotta be like that. If it ain't like that, then it's like you know you're doing what you're doing. It's like phide Cracks, isn't Terry's about. You're scared of the ask inquestion? But look once again, man by easy

I eat asshole a big difference. It's got to be really really bad for your brain. Even for your brain even go there. You gotta look out. You gotta be thinking about doing all kind of ships for the clothes even come off. You know what I'm saying Like that, Well, look out for the new interview. We got puff and cash on here when I was crazy? When when is new in warring music coming out? I got I got as It's Dope Me and Justice League I've never done

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