Episode 364 w/ Lost Boyz - podcast episode cover

Episode 364 w/ Lost Boyz

May 19, 2023โ€ข3 hr 52 min
--:--
--:--
Download Metacast podcast app
Listen to this episode in Metacast mobile app
Don't just listen to podcasts. Learn from them with transcripts, summaries, and chapters for every episode. Skim, search, and bookmark insights. Learn more

Episode description

N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode the Champs chop it up with the legendary group, Lost Boyz!
Lost Boyz share their journey in hip-hop. The group talks about their origin story, careers and their discography including the hit single โ€œReneeโ€ and much much more!
Lots of great stories that you donโ€™t want to miss!!
Make some noise for the Lost Boyz!!! ๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†๐Ÿ†

*Subscribe to Patreon NOW for exclusive content, discount codes, M&Gโ€™s + more:ย  ๐Ÿ†*

https://www.patreon.com/drinkchamps

*Listen and subscribe at https://www.drinkchamps.com

ย Follow Drink Champs:

https://www.instagram.com/drinkchamps

https://www.twitter.com/drinkchamps

https://www.facebook.com/drinkchamps

https://www.youtube.com/drinkchamps

ย DJ EFN

https://www.crazyhood.com

https://www.instagram.com/whoscrazy

https://www.twitter.com/djefn

https://www.facebook.com/crazyhoodproductions

ย N.O.R.E.

https://www.instagram.com/therealnoreaga

https://www.twitter.com/noreaga

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcript

Speaker 1

He is drink chests, motherfucking podcast makes He's a legendary queens rapper.

Speaker 2

He's agreed, that's your boy in O R E.

Speaker 3

He's a Miami hip hop pioneer. What ups d J E f N?

Speaker 2

Together they drink it up with some.

Speaker 3

Of the biggest players, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1

And the most professional, unprofessional podcast and your number one source for drunk.

Speaker 4

Drink cho every day is New Year's e.

Speaker 2

That's it's time for drink champs.

Speaker 3

Drink up, motherfuck mother? Would it goold? Be over? This? What it should be?

Speaker 2

This your boy in O R E?

Speaker 3

What up is d J E f N?

Speaker 5

This is military crazy for all.

Speaker 3

Drink ye makes up?

Speaker 4

And right now when you're talking about anthems, you talk about timeless music, you know, going through their catalog, you know what I mean. I'm just like, damn, these records could work right now, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5

Put it on for.

Speaker 4

Representing and always put queens on the map, put queens first, and was making global music. These guys stood the test of time and I just can't wait to see what's moch more to come. In case you don't know who the fun we talking about. We talked about the Moet point.

Speaker 3

Off top.

Speaker 4

Our was about giving flowers that we're gonna give flowers off top.

Speaker 5

Where's where's the flowers at?

Speaker 3

Paul?

Speaker 5

You don't get the flowers off top, off.

Speaker 2

Top and obviously in memory of your father.

Speaker 3

Definitely, and you got pretty loose flowers.

Speaker 5

Yeah, so off top, off top, I gotta act.

Speaker 3

That's hard.

Speaker 4

Would y'all do a versus? And who would y'all want to do a versus against?

Speaker 5

I already got my.

Speaker 3

Pick because I'll say my ass man, I wanted to. I say, we would be a great challenge basically a good show for like Gloryboy Nature, you went over my head. You went over my head with that one. That's what you did. Great show.

Speaker 1

I ain't gonna I think that'll be a great show. So but honestly, when when you think of the Lost Boys, like you said, you gotta go anthroms, so I think I second on somety by Nature because they definitely came with them anthems. And you know when the Lost Boys stepped on the scene, they came through crushing beams and the Bens music, take me hot, you feel me, lights, camera acts and it is still crushing in the spot today.

Speaker 3

You feel what you say, I'll go with anybody, let's get it.

Speaker 4

You know what I thought of? Or did someone else say this? Thinking maybe Diego might have said this? The beat nuts?

Speaker 6

Yeah, queens, I allowed to have some fun.

Speaker 3

I just whatever, let's good. You know what I mean?

Speaker 5

Did you ever speak to Swiss about this?

Speaker 3

No?

Speaker 4

No, no, no, but you are you? Are you interested in doing that though?

Speaker 6

I mean, if the town calls for we definitely down with whatever. Gold found that point we were in the playball, no question.

Speaker 5

Nah, man, I was.

Speaker 4

I kept listening to the music. I'm like, damn, this is timeless music. Do you know you was making timeless music? And and the stories that y'all was telling, like how did how did? How did you come up with that?

Speaker 3

Yo?

Speaker 6

Basically man like you know, me rating my music. And while we was coming up with my man speak nice and pretty low and all of that, we used Mama and black wall, basement smoking. We didn't get our forties on and just living and living our life and music just what we was made of.

Speaker 3

You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6

I met speaking from summer school coming through with the Trooper.

Speaker 2

Jeep freaking tar.

Speaker 3

You met fixed and refrigerator, Grandmar's crib. The minimum sells a Champ was.

Speaker 2

My grandpa.

Speaker 6

Just try in the building, no question. So that's what we all just came together like that and writing music was just just came from the hard.

Speaker 4

I need to know that story true. You met Freaky Tar from fixing the frigerator, his.

Speaker 6

Box, Champs, no doubt, from fixing Grammars.

Speaker 3

He's new and the new in the kitchen. That's crazy.

Speaker 7

You know.

Speaker 3

Were connected from there, you know what I mean?

Speaker 6

And from there we just saw that brotherhood right there, Mom, Raymond Rodgers, miss Cheeks, freaky car, frea guitar, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3

We just ran with that, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6

Then we bumped. No boys speaking nice. We got pretty little already.

Speaker 3

Eric went to school together, right, Okay, Adams, John, how about how about the name though?

Speaker 2

How did you come up with the name of the Lost Boys?

Speaker 3

Basically there was a group crew around because the Lost Boys born King and and uh born King is the head of the Elves.

Speaker 4

Yeah, so that that was a crew street Street. So what made y'all trip pick that for a rapp man?

Speaker 3

I mean, one day I was He's he's in and out, you know what I'm saying, in our society sometimes. So one time he came back and he would be seeing me and him seen each other on the thank you very much. Uh, we've seen each other on the block. And he was like, yo, man, every time I come back, guys doing your handshaking, doing all this, and y'all meet in front of the coliseum and Bob he was like, Yo man, y'all acting like lost boys. Y'all got people like lost boys. And that was like, I was like,

that was like one of my favorite movies. You know, the movie didn't come out too long ago.

Speaker 5

So now who was dollar Bill?

Speaker 3

Right? Dollar Bill? Yeah? Who was Dollar Bill?

Speaker 6

One of the old g's, you know, one of that taught us to show us the ropes, how of you know, get down on the block and all of that. So he's always a powerful, powerful person in our life.

Speaker 3

But that was a part of the beginning of the LB's as.

Speaker 6

Well, all of them ourself Dialu r I p Dalu Maleague. You know what I'm saying, Milk Kwan and all them boys, you know what I mean. There was the cat that told us, you know, we could do better. The MOVI was doing out on the streets and ship like that, you know what I mean, go to school and all that.

Speaker 3

We went to school and play ball, you know, the situation and all that.

Speaker 6

But there was a OG's looking out for us. Instead of you know what I'm saying, following they pushtups. We followed them in the beginning, you know what I mean, learning how to Dud was doing.

Speaker 3

At the time.

Speaker 6

So uh yeah, they played. They played a big part of my life and his life and the hood.

Speaker 4

Basically, that not one thing to me coming from Queens. And I thought that was a South Jamaica thing, like the way I was giving vibes and like you know what I mean, because I didn't see that before, Like that wasn't like a gang thing, or wasn't a gang thing.

Speaker 3

No, no, it's just a salute to.

Speaker 2

See y'all still doing it.

Speaker 3

I was like, she still got it.

Speaker 8

I was looking like, oh God said, they still got looking because I never could do.

Speaker 4

The handstake, you know what I mean, I have a handstake. So one night, so yeah, yeah, so so let's let's let's get to the let's get to the music.

Speaker 3

Right.

Speaker 4

I got so much notes, man, I was I'm so proud of doing this interview right now. I'm a Queens brother, you know what I'm saying, and I want I wanted to get time really just like damn listening to music. It really brought me back. It really bought brought me back to to to to Queens.

Speaker 3

Right.

Speaker 5

But here's the crazy ship.

Speaker 4

I traveled the world and so I got different feelings of your music. It's not just me identified and Justine Queens. I want to around the world to herd y'all y'all music. So like, like, how how does that feel to make global music?

Speaker 3

That it is crazy?

Speaker 5

Like every barbecue your.

Speaker 4

Yo want one of y'all, one of the five of yall joints.

Speaker 3

Is coming on.

Speaker 6

That It is an honority making music that's still timeless, you know what I mean, Like you can go through the spot and be just chilling and your joint coming bananas, you know what I mean, bring up with your shorty.

Speaker 3

You go to the clubs, they playing your jo.

Speaker 1

It's crazy though, that you said that, because I got, you know, the privilege of going toll which sees we had went to Germany. You feel me when I tell you they was going so crazy. He was on tos KRS one. It was loads of underground Smith and Wesson, Bob Deep you feel me, so they gonna create. But the lowest boy music resonated so crazy in Germany. My pops got to cut one two, three thousand problems on

the legal drug money. The DJ spun that they were singing it in Germany, freaking top you know, they singing it. We ain't even got we got the mic to the crowd and they spending cuts. So I'm Likeyo, this music resonated around the world. You got fans in Africa, Hey me up, reaching out like y'all I love you know the legacy that you got going like it's golden.

Speaker 4

Do y'all think that the love of hip hop lives more in Europe than it does in America right now?

Speaker 2

I do even beyond Europe Latin America.

Speaker 4

Going after Seas is just so yeah, it's like they let you more, like it's like.

Speaker 2

They appreciate it.

Speaker 3

Don't see you every day, yea every day thing Amemerica.

Speaker 6

See I said that, it just like ship go over there. It's like, yo, royalty crazy, you know what I mean? But nah, man, going course Seas just so kind of it's stope man, stope. The crowd is crazy, y'all. Just seen you've seen the show that his had over.

Speaker 2

There in Latin America. He was doing Colombia, I think Argentina, so dance popping elements and everything.

Speaker 3

Yeah, London, what's my man Mike over there in London?

Speaker 6

You got the the little hip hop chip shop out there in London.

Speaker 3

You ever been there? Ain't that one? You ain't been there? Yo? It's crazy over there, the chip shop out in London.

Speaker 6

It's like just hip hop all day, niggas, d J and while you're eating your food, little cut It's crazy stuff.

Speaker 5

What what what's the what's the wildest place you?

Speaker 6

You?

Speaker 3

You went to? How to book the show? Act Africa? Africa? Wow?

Speaker 6

Lord Africa, Cape Town Moving.

Speaker 3

Just came back from Johannesburg. That's crazy. Wasn't that like the first rap room to perform all that isn't it? The first that.

Speaker 4

First rap artists to performing on Africa and the whole Africa, whole.

Speaker 3

Apple time, the first the person before they were just saying Coolio was.

Speaker 4

That was before people people people, So first rap group definitely coolier Wow, yeah, definitely are p Coolio. But I want to make some noise for being the first, Like, yeah, the first rap.

Speaker 6

Got more cheeps over there, you know, running around the Lost Boy trucks.

Speaker 3

You know what I mean.

Speaker 6

It's crazy out there sucking out Africa.

Speaker 3

No question.

Speaker 4

So let let's go to the lifestyles that are rich and the shameless.

Speaker 5

How did y'all come up?

Speaker 3

What was what was that? What was what was you living like in that moment?

Speaker 4

M hm.

Speaker 6

You know, Lifestyles origin Shameless is about, you know, story the drug dealers in our neighborhood. You know, we lost a lot of good dudes that was you know, hustling but giving back to the other not even just just you know, it was shout out to uh cooler b you know what I'm saying to for DP, you know what I mean, one of the original dudes that ever got us hip to grand as the victim Blend the tapes and all of that. So I mean, like lifestyles

of Shameless, just like some diuy with some dynamics. We won't hear about certain cats that died that was hustling in the hood and got killed, but you know you hear about like esketball and all of them.

Speaker 3

Things like that kill me. So it's just it was just that kind of thought, like you.

Speaker 6

Know what I mean, Like you don't really hear about Paris that got killed down Quinn and all of that, you know what I mean, some male dudes that was that that that we looked up to and the hood.

Speaker 3

So it was just that was what was really about. How you talking about that? I feel the same. That's what's said it down just you know, just feeling like that. Lifestyles of the Vision, every day street and who produced that record? Motherfucking easy moment. Yeah, mob shout out to the Guardian body.

Speaker 6

Now, oh yeah, he's one of the dopest dudes that we ever connected with.

Speaker 3

Man fast cool, last nigga. You you have connected with Tupac Tupac. Yeah, the story about were connected Tupa. That was back in like the a days. You know what I'm saying, we need we need that right quick. So now one night mom made you think of that, right, Who's on v A.

Speaker 6

One night and at the at the what the bridge or something like that, and they booked the book Tupac to come out, come out to perform. He was a wild cowboy at that time. You know what I mean, talk man shouldn't dude crazy ship. But yeah, that's the only time we met.

Speaker 5

Him, and what version of that almost when he was still doing juice.

Speaker 3

That was when he first they called the crew R I P.

Speaker 6

Under Girl, and he was already he was he was getting into that. He was way before that, you know what I'm saying. So wow, yea early day he was a wild cowboy then.

Speaker 4

So how about Big Big brother family, No question, we met that guard early.

Speaker 6

I mean like when I met him from back in the days, when did he first got to deal with Arista and all of that fly ship?

Speaker 3

You know, that's about transition.

Speaker 6

That's how we was to hanging around there. I didn't even know who was doing street team and ship, but who was you.

Speaker 3

Know what I mean? And my man to come out kill him. I remember we had some good memories. And but Big he's a hard body, that my man. I remember when he was the last last time I seen him, he was in the wheelchair talking about did to me last night? I see you give me that blood last time?

Speaker 6

Good people's man, No question, we was mad at on the popping that time.

Speaker 3

He was doing that music and all of that ship. He was to let him up. Who's kind of wrapped up. Was they used to be mad because, like, you know, we was the party dudes back in the time. And he was like, yo, man, why y'all ain't never in my video. You see what videos where everybody was in the video and just saying that to all the big okay okay was like, yo man, we did this, and so I was like, yo man, we be working. You know. He was like the hardest working rap group at the time.

You know what it was?

Speaker 6

Yeah, yeah, who's outside with you already?

Speaker 3

Know you who your day?

Speaker 2

Your brother?

Speaker 3

We are we are, we are, we are.

Speaker 4

This is lost Boys day, like Queen's Day, the Queens Day boys. This is your time for your flowers. You have to deserve it. This is real ship. So we wanted to get into everything. That's why we want to ask. We want to ask everything. You got quick time of sliding ready yet?

Speaker 3

All right?

Speaker 2

Cool? Cool?

Speaker 3

Cool cool cool.

Speaker 2

But you say you're doing street Team Street Team for yourselves and for somebody else, y'all was doing it for the same.

Speaker 3

Street team, waiting for the like Profly had his guys. He came from where we was at. He came from uptown, so his he knew all the street team. He didn't have no street team or aristas, so now he using both of them. He's our street team both things, so you it might be lost boys on this side didn't be Big Mac on the other side.

Speaker 2

Yeah, big Big Mac.

Speaker 3

I remember that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the pic that's when the street teams the street. So we was like he had both teams.

Speaker 6

I really I was really giving out this niggas flies.

Speaker 4

Though earlier you said Queen I was assuming you met Queen pin Josephine, Oh, Queen Bee. Okay, all right, cool, cool, because I always wanted to ask the party ain't a party remix. It doesn't credit no one on the remix. Do you notice that?

Speaker 2

No? Okay, I give my check. Yeah that's funny.

Speaker 6

Hell I don't be checking but not but hello with days a month is it? Let's get it? But now everything good man. I love making music and popping off. Man, this ship is just what we came a long way to doing this ship, you know what I mean? So that being on Drink Champs and all that flash.

Speaker 4

Like actually, because y'all came out like the right time, right, it felt like it felt like naves had dropped.

Speaker 3

It was a special time, right.

Speaker 4

It was like for me, That's how I remember it because like I'm like Queens, So it's like Naves dropped right then, I think Mob dropped, and then y'all dropped like right after, and I remember I remember it being I correct.

Speaker 3

I don't know, I just.

Speaker 2

Okay, yeah, yeah, I thought.

Speaker 4

Honest came before Molly, remember Mom, they came out mad early before.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 4

Yeah, but that juvenile hell and all that encount so count. I mean, like come on, man, like the real album started from there. Man, I bet you they say they don't that didn't count. But but what I'm saying, what was that pressure? You know, not only to make it out the hood, but coming from Queens because these were the legendary groups that came right before y'all. You know what I'm saying, Like you said, Mom, d and Nah's

like holy ship, that's something there? Was it pressure or was it like let's go?

Speaker 3

That was that was more of a damp a push.

Speaker 6

Queen is getting the money like ten.

Speaker 3

Years to get that farus doing it, you know what I mean.

Speaker 6

Brand that's the big dollar rock Spaine G and all them boys out there, Big j T and the Wick.

Speaker 4

Young boys't know what he's talking about.

Speaker 3

Street legend like shirt King shirts On.

Speaker 1

Experienced that now show respect to all the legends.

Speaker 3

Man, the old gez, the good man that was, that was, that was Dave was the influence. You know what I mean, Let's go well, yeah, we yeah, we just had to make sure we sat down.

Speaker 6

We had our own you know, our own lane and ship. So we wasn't even looking at it like like we was were just coming out with our ship that it took so long to come out with you know.

Speaker 3

What I mean, Let's go bang out.

Speaker 6

So once we got a chance to make some music, man, we wasn't thinking about none of that. We was just rocking and roll and it was be honest to get on the stage of dudes like rocking with Nordy by Nation all that on. You know what I'm saying. First came in the game. What's that high ninety seven?

Speaker 3

Like that is dope.

Speaker 4

You know what was different for me to witness y'all, Like I said, like the the mob Mob you know it was making very very very serious music. Uh nahs, making very serious music. You guys were making very serious music, but it seemed like to me, you guys having fun, like you know what I'm saying like I always used to be like, like, y'all want me dancing and like, and I'm like, well, you know what I mean, Like I feel like y'all was the first street music that

was fun? Is that accurate by nature to like because y'all.

Speaker 3

Just a quote from Freaky Child Rest in Peace, He's like, we put the soul back into music in the hip hop because it was going one way and it was like getting gangst and all that stuff. So now everybody's staying in the walls the part. And then we got that that groove to make you like, let's let's just free yourself, you know, smoking weed and drinking and making music. That's that's the way.

Speaker 4

You taking watch.

Speaker 3

I'm watching you man. I loosen at the time.

Speaker 4

Yeah, we're about to play the game quick time.

Speaker 2

It's live.

Speaker 4

This is this is our game, and play with everybody. We will give you multiple choice. If you be politically correct, you got to take a shot, pick both, take a shot if you If not, you know, we're drinking.

Speaker 2

Were drinking with you though.

Speaker 3

We ain't leave me.

Speaker 5

Y'all out there watched okay, so everybody ready, I'm.

Speaker 3

As well pour up now.

Speaker 5

Yeah, I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do the drink champ class.

Speaker 2

Poor short, I'm gonna do a long game man, get right.

Speaker 4

Yeah, yes, we're doing a little. They ain't gotta be You don't got to. You gotta go crazy.

Speaker 1

We ain't got none to prove, same thing, yeah, thinking, well, okay, okay, waters, all right, you got the person?

Speaker 4

Yeah, alright, Tupac or d m X d m X all day.

Speaker 3

That's fa okay.

Speaker 5

With him, you're sticking with d M.

Speaker 3

Okay, okay, m hm. I ain't gonna be based. You do the next one.

Speaker 2

Naughty by nature of Lords of the Underground.

Speaker 5

Taking a shot, Take a shot. A shot that means you go take a shot.

Speaker 3

Either you're saying, I'm saying I can't go.

Speaker 4

I love them, all right, cool man, hold on un okay, all right, cool, thank you shot.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I'm gonna save that. I'm gonna save both man.

Speaker 5

Yeah both okay, cool, take a shot.

Speaker 4

We can't afford for different Yeah, yeah, slo to long boys though we have Bob deep or m O p mmm.

Speaker 2

That's a good one.

Speaker 3

Damn it, man, damn I'm not to take this shot.

Speaker 4

I'm gonna take the shot I want to take the shot to.

Speaker 3

The shot where you go with why would you do that? Would you you.

Speaker 2

Giving out the easy questions, I'll give them the legendary question. Listen.

Speaker 5

That's the producers right back there.

Speaker 4

So they look at you and then they make these questions up as you go.

Speaker 2

You know, they made up on the spot.

Speaker 4

It's never like they analyze you as soon as you walk in.

Speaker 2

Shot.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I think it's.

Speaker 3

Ready for the next one. Mind ready the next one? Cheating?

Speaker 4

Yeah, I'm ready for the next one. Oh yeah, you're drinking. I'm using the same cup. That's the reason why. Yeah?

Speaker 5

That which one.

Speaker 3

About boy wow? Got boy dirty glad? Oh yeah, yeah, don't.

Speaker 4

I don't want no, keep me on whiskey. Let me smell that. I can probably tell. Okay, that is the killer that is be Let me get that.

Speaker 3

That's a beat? Did you really come out here just to smell it? Leag you know what, I.

Speaker 5

Hate to kill us, So I'm gonna smell that.

Speaker 3

You might as well bring to at the time, just.

Speaker 2

So so we're drinking that right, Yeah, we're drinking to that one.

Speaker 5

Used the same cup?

Speaker 3

Okay? Uh? Rap city or video music box man, Video music box.

Speaker 1

Dad, I'm a rap city nigga.

Speaker 2

Yeah, you gotta go.

Speaker 4

You gotta go actially, I gotta go a good one, Biggie or big al.

Speaker 3

Give me take the shot. I don't even want to talk and rest some piece of book. Yeah, big, you gotta take the big shots.

Speaker 5

You can keep us small.

Speaker 2

Yeah, keep it small.

Speaker 3

It's nice and neat. Yeah, yeah, you gotta huntre more. Thank you.

Speaker 2

The next one a n w A Public Enemy n w A.

Speaker 5

I always like the n W against Tank.

Speaker 3

N w A two. They had a couple of good joints that I love.

Speaker 4

Yeah, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 5

When we end up being publicandemy.

Speaker 4

No nobody cool cool, I mean shot on that one, but saying that this is the shot for the next one, Yeah.

Speaker 3

That's the shot for the next positive mother the mounds of running theiga.

Speaker 2

Let's go, thank you, you got it?

Speaker 3

Uh one of these we skipping?

Speaker 9

Oh yeah, rap g raps or o d cou gi rap?

Speaker 3

What do you mean going ractor? I'm going with you because that's my man.

Speaker 2

But D was like taking that from.

Speaker 3

My first my first my first first, first second record that I brought was Treacher's three. This is like and this is like eight like my own little bit of money that I was like this, go to the record store by myself.

Speaker 2

Heartbeat Pioneer originator that I was.

Speaker 4

Like, ol cool j big daddy King, I'm gotta take a damn shot. I got ready, I got already already ship.

Speaker 3

That next one. When is this game by the start problem making?

Speaker 2

Okay, I like the decisions, y'all.

Speaker 3

You're doing it to yourself, big pun of cannabis. I'm going with a big pun. That's my man. That's I mean, y'all kind of we're tight with cannabis. Yeah, yeah, we brought him in the game kicking. I'm want my man cannabis.

Speaker 6

Okay, facts all right, because you know that's my answer.

Speaker 3

Okay, shout out to the big pun, my Doggie, no doubt, Pie.

Speaker 5

Rock Shante or Money Love.

Speaker 3

Roxanne Old Day.

Speaker 10

I mean, I ain't mean to say it like that, but you know, queens.

Speaker 4

Your queen's bias like me, Yeah, what's heavy queens? Yeah?

Speaker 3

I like that. I like that. That's a right, mother, that's that right? Like this?

Speaker 4

Uh, Fab or Jada kiss? Okay, let's take Jada.

Speaker 3

I'm going with Jada.

Speaker 2

You're going with Jada? Okay. I love Fab.

Speaker 3

I love that. I love both the niggas got some ship crazy fab.

Speaker 2

I ain't gonna both my brother. That's what my brother got. Just want to drink to.

Speaker 4

Okay, I like this one that's a New Jack City or King of New York mm hmm.

Speaker 3

Damn Queen's death. I'm going with queens. With queens that I'm gonna have.

Speaker 6

To go the New Jack City, I mean King of New York really, Christal Walking, let's get it.

Speaker 3

No question about New York City?

Speaker 4

Yeah, okay, jay z or nas nas all day, let's go all right, cool?

Speaker 3

I got the next one, easy mobile, Pete Rock, easy Mob or.

Speaker 4

All the game sucks me up to by the way, not just yeah, fellow, that's crazy.

Speaker 3

I got the d D. Come on, she's fast, she's a ninja. Trying question or brand Nubian? What trying question?

Speaker 2

Brand new?

Speaker 3

I'm going brand newbi.

Speaker 4

It's the first time against queens, the first pick. I'm gonna take a shot for you for me being wrong.

Speaker 3

Not gonna say King of New York too. So you did go yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, you got the next one that's in peace.

Speaker 2

Don't facts?

Speaker 3

Yeah, rest in peace? FI, no question, just down to Linden. I got I got the next one?

Speaker 4

Yeah, fat Joe or Rick Ross.

Speaker 3

Joe Joey do your whole on now. I ain't gonna say that. You gotta flow. Ye, that's all good Jesus so that.

Speaker 2

Or bad boy? Definitely bad boy.

Speaker 3

I have to fall into the category of a bad boy. It's bad. But you thought about it for a second. You thought about it.

Speaker 6

No, No, I'm just feel respected. My man's in them over there.

Speaker 3

Okay, she's depthing on him. Boys, you gott I gotta take.

Speaker 2

Carros want to rock him? Come on, we gotta take it.

Speaker 3

Give me nothing the automatic? Sure did you have? I ain't got no take that.

Speaker 4

I like this one.

Speaker 5

Boys in the hood or minister Society?

Speaker 2

Mm hmm.

Speaker 3

Boys and baby about it? Yes, shout out to the que No question. Analog or digital?

Speaker 2

Hm?

Speaker 6

What that guy sounds christ?

Speaker 4

Analog is like the two inch rails.

Speaker 3

Pro to Yeah, my bad.

Speaker 2

I guess it would. I guess would be.

Speaker 3

Like, be honest.

Speaker 5

I'm gonna be honest.

Speaker 3

Analog sound better, is more convenient. I'm gonna be honest. You remember back then when we were making music.

Speaker 4

I'm sorry it sounds like the old guys we are. We couldn't we all had to make music together. When you had a feature that you couldn't have to send him a goddamn the Whales was like this big there was like little dogs.

Speaker 6

You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4

Yeah, it had a good like too good times. First off, First off, I'm gonna be honest. I'm sorry, Yo, I never used to punch in because when I started making music, I had to.

Speaker 2

Go all the way through.

Speaker 4

And if I had to punch in, you have to take the ship go rewind.

Speaker 5

So I like the.

Speaker 4

Tragedy wrung me to this game and we used to save money. We was like, yo, you ain't so if rhyme say't wroke, I wouldn't even go to the studio. I would never go to the studio without making three to five records because I couldn't afford race the fucking studio times, you know what I'm saying. Like and I did, It's like super dug, what that's recorded? One take?

Speaker 5

That's one take?

Speaker 3

And what what was you counting the bars?

Speaker 5

So I'm just being honest.

Speaker 4

So like when we asked that question, I got, you know, I got because analog sounds better because I love how all the features sound back in the days, like y'all was in the same room.

Speaker 3

Y'all have to smoke each other's weed.

Speaker 4

You had to smell each other's cologne, you know what I'm saying, Like you have to sit around and vibe out, and you know what I mean, Like if you ain't like somebody on the record, you can tell, you know what I mean. You can tell because y'all was in the same room.

Speaker 3

Story here, remember that when he talked, I know what you're talking about.

Speaker 6

It it's like, damn you're talking about like when we were in the studio was lovesky.

Speaker 3

I'll be right, you know what I mean?

Speaker 6

A story joint man games, you will play. It's crazy, So I know, I mean, being in the studio is dope like.

Speaker 3

This exactly, exactly, exactly like this. Everybody's chilling making them heads and.

Speaker 4

Queen Latifa or empty light, oh ship clean God damn.

Speaker 5

We need them both on the show.

Speaker 4

But I'm taking a shot for both because we needed both on the show.

Speaker 2

So Queen, yeah, I gotta take it.

Speaker 3

Mention that let's go now we like I like this one too.

Speaker 2

It's stacking up?

Speaker 3

Is we in Germany? Right?

Speaker 5

Black black a black boom.

Speaker 3

I'm going with I'm going with brother.

Speaker 5

So if you don't take this shot, we don't just taking a shot.

Speaker 3

I'm like, what are you doing? Now?

Speaker 5

This is deep?

Speaker 3

I want.

Speaker 5

It's the last one, right, last one.

Speaker 3

We've been hard. Uh she changed the game. This man niggas got a flight to catch.

Speaker 4

At the plane that it is called catch a flight right, that's right there, buddy, And.

Speaker 3

I want each y'all to answer this loyalty or respect. I'm loyalty. I'm a lord. You're like a motherfucker lost boys. Love and loyalty. You already know.

Speaker 1

The hell Definitely you got loyalty. It comes with the results.

Speaker 3

Yes, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5

We always say this is the only trick question in this whole ship.

Speaker 4

To us, it's like both, but you can't have one without the other, you see, like loving marriage, like you have one without.

Speaker 7

You without shout our Bundy baby.

Speaker 3

Yeah now I'm hot as hell al Bundy all day.

Speaker 2

Yo.

Speaker 4

So Lloyd Banks had a record Lex Kuchbamer is in the ben, Billy, do you think that he was paying homage to Lex?

Speaker 11

Uh?

Speaker 3

Lex Jeeps being coach beaming in the ben. Of course, you know, I don't know. You know that's dope. Yeah, him say something like that, shouting Lloyd Banks. You know what I mean, like South Building all day. No, of course listen, no, shout out to that record. You know what I mean. You already know like that it's us.

Speaker 4

But yeah, but describe at the time when you dropped your record.

Speaker 3

In the bens. You've seen you've seen the video.

Speaker 5

Of course, wanted to be That's one of the videos. I was like, I want to be.

Speaker 3

Cars.

Speaker 6

Okay, we had some fun doing that. Man brought the ald out. Shout all of them that said, we wasn't gonna do it.

Speaker 3

When we're sitting on the bench, what that question. Shout out to the linking part. Oh my O G s A J across the street. You already know. I gotta shout you out.

Speaker 6

The whole neighborhood, old neighborhood came out. Man, We're the first nigga. Then New York with the mother.

Speaker 3

Some cars, the hydraulic cars, motorcycles and all that. Well, we bought arranged that, deep arranged that.

Speaker 2

But let's let's go back a little bit from from when y'all me start making music. What what's happening? How does how do y'all get to that record deal. What's that process? Chaw suit?

Speaker 6

Oh, no question, but that came before you know who was going hard before we met, y'all.

Speaker 3

Suit Teddy Rowley got some to do with this ball. Them got a part in this game.

Speaker 2

But even before that, like, how do you even get to that?

Speaker 3

Well, we was just doing. Yeah, we got looking up, even going back and forth through up and down down if I'm going to Virginia, stuff like that. And then basically she's playing the seed down there in Virginia, in Virginia, Norfolk. So you know, we're cool. You it's good. It's good. We started going down there and then you know, migrating back and forth and stuff like that.

Speaker 6

I'm talking about. We got down there the first Okay, the shaker, right.

Speaker 5

All you want to do is.

Speaker 3

It's that Teddy Roy cousin was my cousin. Just saw hard body put us all onto the game.

Speaker 6

Just sircas just alloting night cashum and all that.

Speaker 3

You already know you and everybody but lost. That's what I'm just. I'm just cutting real quick, get them, because you.

Speaker 6

Know I went down right, I was out there riding around my main rollerd he's doing you remember capital cuts. If y'all know Norfolk State and all of that. Hell, now you know, Queen Joseph, you know what I mean. You know we was outside man heavy in the early ninety ninety one, you.

Speaker 3

Know what I mean, like doing our damn.

Speaker 6

Thing, shouts to God, damn Jesse Wes Holly.

Speaker 3

Yes, I gotta get Jessee West rocking on your radio, Die.

Speaker 6

Talking about going to the Bronx and big being the big bing and we ended up in Virginia.

Speaker 4

Yeah, so y'all went to Virginia because you was trying to be in the video.

Speaker 6

No, I went to Virginia because I've seen my cousin was making the damning Eddy Row and the niggas Shake your Run video.

Speaker 3

CUsing down there doing the damn thing I'm talking about. You remember them nice biggas close the shades, man on the floor, space game time. Baby, Come on this. I don't want to go to fall, but I'm just saying, like it's going down early. You know what I'm saying, Damn pretty say roll baby, the churches, I.

Speaker 6

Said, broadways bro always and bobbing all them, boy, So you be with it.

Speaker 3

And I thing I'm just saying, he was there.

Speaker 4

So what happens. Do you actually link? But tell me why did you get with him?

Speaker 3

Yeah? We leave in what's doing? So we wave with the nigga come through it.

Speaker 4

I don't even wait what We've seen a lot of games, crazy clar love a lot of people. We just like cousins doing his thing. You go out there to see your cousin.

Speaker 3

You already had music, though you have a demo or something.

Speaker 6

More rapping over just niggas tracks like we was the niggas from Basically, I'm telling you was the niggas from Basic Park Boom boom wrapping over tracks. Grand guy said, DJ and know but.

Speaker 3

Not recording it? No? I mean, are we recorded in my in my basement recording stuff something?

Speaker 5

In case you have something like so you had a a demo, was that.

Speaker 3

It wasn't going for the.

Speaker 11

Recording Teddy Studios is that nigga and we just posted up outside smoke weed and ship like that.

Speaker 3

You got.

Speaker 6

In the world, Man, don't even connect to get the damn reckon with queening like that? Like you know what I mean, because we was just one of the That's what Teddy Roley Studio at Nigga.

Speaker 3

We could go up there and just park up and smoke weed and ship shouts.

Speaker 6

The roller door on anybody, you know what I mean. Yeah, And you said Biggie used to come down there. Do them shows that that man man the dress. But we was.

Speaker 3

But we was through all those little errors that Virginia was pen. I would say it like this. We got big brothers that was making Virginia park. Oh yeah, you know what I'm saying, right them people, right, big meaches and yeah, it was our big brothers and shouts of j mos, Yeah, shouts j B boy, b MP mob. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2

But how does it all translate out into getting eventually a deal? Like through this Virginia connect.

Speaker 3

Fast forward, then you're going to really cheeks was about to battle somebody down there, hit Man one thing let to another. Tim Patterson, Tim.

Speaker 4

Doggim dog right naked, But.

Speaker 3

That's naked, he said, instead of them battling each other, because him and hit Man a battle on the side, they went, they were going outside.

Speaker 6

He was a boss against queens. He was all out there getting money, throwing the motherfucker and bus trips and all of that boxing and all that.

Speaker 3

Come on, tell them. So that's how we Tim, Tim, you know he's working up there, Arison, but we don't know that. But he was all right. He was Andre and everybody and and all that stuff. I think he's if he did a nigga that gave us talking about Tim Dog. Tim Tim basically got got us the deal because he was already working up there. So he heard him rapping and this and that and their so he was like, all right, I'm put a demo was out of them. And that's what he came to be. Money

in the Murder Twister cap and all that ship. That's when they do that. We went to New York. He introduced us and he was like, yo, Monday, Me and him went to the Ruckets game. That's when the new Ultimates came out. This is Ultimate first came out.

Speaker 5

He saw Ultimore, ye, so he.

Speaker 3

Was like yo. And him went up there and he was like, Yo, I fuck with y'all. I want to put y'all really on. I'm gonna try to introduce y'all into Andre and this is uptown and that's me and him having this conversation. I was like, all right, whatever because he was like, Yo, Spig, I'm telling you I could do something. I was like, all right, this is dog telling dog. So this is at a record game, you know what I'm saying. So boom, one thing led to another. He did what he said he was gonna do.

He introduced this Andre and told him what it was. That's how we got introduced to Uptown Records. But Andre Andre rest in peace when we when we signed with him, he didn't know. He didn't understand us. My next question because he had mostly R and b Art and stuff like the only follow him set. You know what I'm saying. They was labeling heavy D is like R and B on that on that on that label. So we was like really the first rap hoop or something like you

know what I'm saying that Joe did that? Maybe all that you know what I'm saying, Christoph Williams that I'm up, Dad, We was old. So when we was when we were actually yeah, all that Anthony Hamilton, all that y'all don't even know. We got stories like we go back, you know what I'm saying, When before you heard Anthony Hamilton right now? Oh there was another Anthony Hamilton. Yeah, we need to hear on this other hand then, I mean

he gets no, I'm just saying he gets it. And he could sing and stuff like that, but he had different His vibe was different. It wasn't no slow down version, you know what I'm saying, like the ballance and stuff like that. N that was that was my man. Man could go in. He could go in. But he's nice like that. But we was with everybody that was up shining.

Speaker 6

Yeah, everybody that was shine.

Speaker 3

That is one that we was dudes. We ever. He's really like the nigga that really you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 12

He was.

Speaker 6

He's just like who everybody, He's one of them niggas. Like was my vision. Everything helped me really go. I was before before like he was over there and the Queen's doing what he was doing.

Speaker 3

I had to go out to b A.

Speaker 6

You know what I'm saying. Take care some things I'm just talking about. As far as like while we was out.

Speaker 3

There n b A. Yeah, we was going all that. Who was the v A nigga rapping? You know what i mean, like like at L and all that.

Speaker 6

We was out there before we even you know, made music like like Nigga were the black flags first, you know what?

Speaker 3

Everywhere you know what i mean, before it got popular, got the black flags you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4

When New York came down there, we was down j V was down there as well at one point.

Speaker 3

In the nineties. Yeah, like like ninety ninety one night. Yes, I guess. I guess earlier.

Speaker 4

I want to talk to because earlier we spoke about cannabis and you said you was one of the first people to put cannabis on I wanted can you elaborate on that story a little bit? You guys, Yeah, I mean, damn, that was what nigga was. He's a cannabis.

Speaker 6

He's the only nigga with a license in Atlanta. Now he wasn't listen, man, We was out in Atlanta trying to make a record and get a record deal.

Speaker 3

You know it was do you know what I'm saying. We went to Atlanta because we got the steaks over there.

Speaker 6

It's crazy, right, the truckle, the stakes come out there about let's go bout you anyway, talked about that, mattresses.

Speaker 3

And niggas life. But now I'm just saying, man, so there's so much ship that we went through to get what we had to be talking on.

Speaker 5

So cannabis was the driver, now he was.

Speaker 3

He was cannabis. Cannabis was basically running down. Cannabis was our Wait, Cannabis was our like our manager's secretary.

Speaker 6

Are you saying he wasn't man secretary?

Speaker 2

I wasn't ready.

Speaker 3

I'm ready that Nigga was the man that Nigga the secretary share.

Speaker 6

Okay, biggas, that was for real.

Speaker 3

He was secretary of defense.

Speaker 4

Oh I did not know I was going there.

Speaker 3

Okay, No, no, no, he worked with our manager and this and that and third. So I remember I heard him talk about he was a manager and co managing Nigga. That's just another thing. I heard it. I've seen it. So I'm shutting shutting the ship down because that is not true.

Speaker 4

So you've seen cannabis online saying that he co managed the loss for.

Speaker 3

Nig Nigga, Nigga see more TV.

Speaker 4

Hold on, Oh my god, I wasn't I too.

Speaker 3

I'll be chilling. I'm just gonna tell you like this, some niggas, that's my I already told the niggas from moms.

Speaker 6

I'm telling you youryway run it down.

Speaker 3

It's all good. Cannab is a dope, dude. You know what I'm saying is this he used to take us.

Speaker 5

I'm gonna take a shot anyway, just a shot, believe, yeah, just.

Speaker 10

Turn like it was like, I'm gonna keep it all the way. Don't drink, don't smoke, you know what I mean? He got no license we drinking smoke.

Speaker 3

No, Lie, he's older now, we're all older than that.

Speaker 1

Right.

Speaker 3

What I'm saying is, yeah, we used to smoke his mom's car route. He's just taking a studio.

Speaker 2

That's it.

Speaker 3

That shout some success R I P. And that's what it was, you know what I mean. The shot then he got it together and the string champs.

Speaker 2

We watch it.

Speaker 3

They don't watch it. Lights right now. But he don't he a dope all this, you know what I mean? You know good, he's good and you really having a guess okay, be good. No, I just didn't like that part that that bothered you that you heard that. No, dad right there, But what that was then? Now, I had some deep bass before that, all types of ship and ship like that.

Speaker 5

He is what he is, he is, So we're gonna move on.

Speaker 3

He's he's.

Speaker 4

Something that I always want to come on out of something. I always wanted to ask you a music make me high? Right, you said my boys, Charles Sue get high. Was Charles get happy out here flipping poles and packing.

Speaker 13

The bell and then let's let's about there. Well, he getting high back and he was getting the music. Okay, we was getting high.

Speaker 6

I mean.

Speaker 3

Big ready to talk. Like I've been saying what I said, Spa take the stage. I mean a lot of ship that we went through. It is because a lot of these motherfuckers that didn't know ship. Like Charles Suit he admitted when we put him in the game, he ain't know nothing, that's right, but he learned some stuff from Puff and stuff like that. Like I can tell you a lot of ship like Puff is like our brother because his big brother is our big brother, our big brothers,

that's his big brother. So a lot of ship that you know, Suit grew up to know. He got it from Puff, but Tim got it. It's a circle we all. I mean when I say we we got a big family. You know what I'm saying. Uh, A lot of ship that I've been hearing throughout my incarceration and ship like that and researching and stuff like that. I heard a lot of bullshit and I was like, you know, I'm a I'm a I'm somebody in jail, you know what

I'm saying. So when niggas tell me this, this, that, and the third shit, Now I got extra people saying, yo, this that, this happened, that happened. What's up with your all this shit? So now I gotta be like, damn, how you clean that shit up? Right? So basically when you get a opportunity trying to clean some of that shit up right, because there was a lot of bullshit rumors and bullshit this and that. You know how Now now the the internet shit like that. So I watched it.

Remember I was telephones, was in the room like that. You know what I'm saying, right, So now all this shit coming into play, and you got other people talking and internets and stuff like that coming in. So now a lot of shit is like blown out of proportion.

Speaker 2

Now you get to speak the truth like narrative, you be like.

Speaker 3

On your platform. That's right, Yeah, appreciated.

Speaker 4

Boris I need another blunt immediately, boris the bunt immediately, my nigga, I got listen, I'm not gonna I got another shot here. I'm taking another job. I gonna take no, no, no, I said, for no reason. It's a big reason. It's going to celebrate mother lost boys.

Speaker 2

What's so that's the Mama Wana joined you.

Speaker 3

Let me see you know, telling you they make that chick.

Speaker 2

We're going ahead. You know I'm gonna take this.

Speaker 3

This is what.

Speaker 2

I appreciated. Appreciate.

Speaker 4

What'n't you living out here in Miami? Sometimes you guys are both Kendle residents.

Speaker 3

Saying no, no, no, nigga. I've been hire for a minute, but I'm I'm I'm global. Try to right, yeah, bunk bang bing bing. But now I'll be over there and Queen are you Queen Queen jose.

Speaker 6

To be in his head that was here, the princess of the elbe Ban cousin princess over there in the cut.

Speaker 3

You already know the failing Dingo was here, My main man that bought me there. Here is the black Cuban over there. Shout so DJ forty seven now lived kicking ass. Will shout to my cousin Willy lived right there as in the wrestling world.

Speaker 2

Shot the building in the party.

Speaker 3

Stop. But I've been out here for a minute, man, you know what I'm saying. I've been down here since. Uh you know what I'm saying Uh, I long you been down here?

Speaker 2

Like, oh yeah, he was coming by the world and we were doing Mili Crazy radio.

Speaker 3

He was he lives over there. I've been down here like since what's my man? What's that?

Speaker 6

What's that studio right there on the corner on Collins Man Dang you know you know?

Speaker 3

Yeah, the Marlin the Month part? Yeah, I made what did I making?

Speaker 4

Them? All with?

Speaker 3

All in there?

Speaker 4

Yeah, I made.

Speaker 5

I made a record with and then.

Speaker 2

Yeah, well that's why long we've been here. That's fun's downadays.

Speaker 3

We've been coming down here and living. We've been living here for ten years. We got in two thousand and one, you know what I mean.

Speaker 6

So we first moved here past all pat and we've been came down in chill.

Speaker 3

You know what I'm saying. Before that, we spend like I said, we have big brothers. We got big brothers outside the big Hold. How long did you do? How much me? I did? Nineteen and a half nineteen Look at that nigga nineteen and a half shot out, still got home. He still didn't. I got Cody's still locked up. One came home freame just came home like the other day.

Speaker 5

And if you don't mind you. You want to say what your charges was or.

Speaker 3

Mine was a bank robbery. I took the bank robberty abandoned.

Speaker 2

So we don't want to I mean, but you but you act like.

Speaker 3

It happens. It didn't happen. A lot of y'all gotta understand the government. They're vicious. You know. If they just like I believe you, I believe you did something, they're gonna stick it to you. You know that. And if you fight him, they're gonna say, here's the next little throw that on top of you just because you're being small, just.

Speaker 5

Because federal bank robbery was bad.

Speaker 3

So a lot, you know, I learned a lie. I mean, it's experience. You see me through my chase. You know what I'm saying. It's an experience. You know that you don't really want to be. You know what I'm saying. You're gonna write a book? Yeah, I got a book. I got a book. I got a lot of ship going on, you know what I'm saying. And and and also like like he said, like I got the tour, like on my grand tongue, it's artists, different independent artists.

I'm just I'm hoping that the homies come home and certain you know what I'm saying, to give because there's you know, there's a lot of talent in jail, you know what I'm saying, rappers and stuff like that. I already speak to some of them on a kind of week the week basis and stuff like that when they get home, trying to get them on some shots some stun you know what I'm saying, shots, some shots shot. But I'm trying to, you know, trying to give everybody opportunity to get they could be there.

Speaker 4

You know, your story is so ill like what I'm saying, like like like it's it's so many people you know that that make it to rap right, and then they think that rap is the end of all, be all, And then for like you to have a story like that where you know you you you know whatever, you know, it wasn't.

Speaker 3

Going right, It wasn't was that was that the story ship up and down? You know what I'm saying. Sometimes you got your high, sometimes you got your loves, you know what I'm saying. Sometimes a lot of things happen, you know what I'm saying. But one thing for ensure that you know, God had me, I'm here, you know that's the whole differed. Like I made it back.

Speaker 6

I bought to stay nice at home and like, you know what I'm saying, we want James champions Ship.

Speaker 3

Motherfucker be cheering on mother.

Speaker 6

That ain't doing one damn thing my man did in the industry. Shitt these niggas on that be coming on and be like what the fuck my man is home. Niggas don't hear that, and they don't see that. But we're still getting that, motherbucker.

Speaker 3

You know what I mean? That flame burning. So yeah, I'm glad we don't drink champs to let them know my boys back. Yeah.

Speaker 4

Is this the first interview I did as lost boys so far? Because right now, yeah, we're taking that.

Speaker 5

We're taking that.

Speaker 3

The first little yeah, yeah, all right.

Speaker 4

We got to get to one of the biggest records of all times. I don't want to say one of your biggest records of all time, because it is one of the biggest record all time, even though it's your record, but it belonged to the world, onto the world.

Speaker 3

This renee give it up. But when you listen, like.

Speaker 2

Shot someone take it.

Speaker 3

I got another.

Speaker 5

Extra more shots? Yeah, have another drink?

Speaker 3

You AKA precious ebony faith, so we I mean Williams.

Speaker 4

I kept listening to this record, right, and I'm sitting back right when I listened to Renee on one part, it makes you happy because it's a record that I grew up with.

Speaker 3

It's nostalgic for you and that stuff, and it's.

Speaker 4

Like, all right, cool and you're dancing. But this, when you listen to the story is crazy. Story is story, but you still connect people to it was still a club record, like I have never actually seen that.

Speaker 7

And.

Speaker 2

That's crazy.

Speaker 4

Look like you to tell one of the saddest stories. Everyone identify with this story. Everyone dance and be a little sad to say, human, that is a great answer because that is how to tap into every human like that. That is not a black record, it's a it's a global Anybody.

Speaker 5

Could listen to Renee and relate to that, like what what the what kind of weed was that.

Speaker 3

Smoking?

Speaker 4

Just a real story because I never I never ever, I don't know that I want to give that's right, Yeah, I mean it's a it's really okay. She's doing to me too, y'all. I'm gonna say, looked like a nice the way right at the freeze.

Speaker 3

Believe it.

Speaker 5

Okay, go ahead, so go ahead.

Speaker 3

Let's I mean, Renee is story about it, Shorty? That's right. You know what I'm saying. We all got shorties in our town, all across in America. Anybody, shorty, you know what I'm saying. And there's always you know, the hood chicks.

Speaker 4

Okay, man, when you finished, anybody, I don't goanna cut you off. I gotta get to this before you finished. But who made up shorty?

Speaker 3

First? Was it south Side?

Speaker 2

The bridge?

Speaker 4

Damn you don't know, y'all don't know. Queen, Yeah you know, Okay, I know it's a queen. Yeah, okay, okay ahead, let's get give because the people don't kill me, I'll cut.

Speaker 2

You off this part.

Speaker 3

So so, like I said, anybody got nig green niggas more Q Club? Hey should they? I think we made it. I think we made it.

Speaker 2

I'll take a shot to that.

Speaker 4

I'll take a drunk history.

Speaker 3

Renee is like I mean, Ebony was Ebie Williams. She got hit?

Speaker 2

Oh wow, No side south Side?

Speaker 3

I beat forty projects and niggas over there on on Jutu side scene. They came over bunk bun bung, shout up, basic party. The Park.

Speaker 2

So this is a real story.

Speaker 3

I mean, he would he getting story about it, but I don't want to throw a name out so hard. But I just wanted them to know. That's why that was the inspiration. Yeah, it came from you know what I'm saying. Okay and basic you know everybody out party and park yet you know if y'all want to park Jet Park after dark and.

Speaker 2

She ain't happened, but rest in peace.

Speaker 3

But she took one. You know what I'm saying. She's the one.

Speaker 6

The lady that got shot with the baby, remember got married. People got got married in front of the building that got shot.

Speaker 3

Happen you know, I mean that same day, the whole the old.

Speaker 6

Shot, the whole shootout was fo the nigga shot up while she was there on the phone booth at the phone and they were shooting up the niggas in the building right there standing in front, and accidentally shot the lady and.

Speaker 3

Her husband getting married. It's a whole deep dump dump But basically you take one story that take no, you take one story out of that and and basically explained you know what I'm saying. Things happen like that. You don't never hear about a female game kill shot or whatever. This get the third now you day nowadays, you know, but back then that was like kind of rare and nobody and then then if it happened, nobody really talked about it. So basically using that just giving another story

of our lifestyle. I mean, what we go through and as youth back then. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4

But what I'm saying is the energy is so vulnerable because it's like it taps into everyone, right, Like what you're saying is like it's supposed to.

Speaker 3

It's supposed to you know what you write it for everybody, right, No, I'll know what I'm saying. But you're talking about you don't do the same thing your nigga go through. You talk about like.

Speaker 4

The way you break down, the way it's broke down. Right, It's like this is a real love story.

Speaker 3

Like you know what I mean.

Speaker 5

It's like it felt it felt.

Speaker 4

So when you said I always thought it was like if it was true, because sometimes you know it is.

Speaker 3

It is like it's like what you said.

Speaker 1

Holding it down the video when you listen to it, You ever listened to it in your car by yourself?

Speaker 3

Yes, you like you can see you can see it going. Yeah, like.

Speaker 1

That lose somebody, you feel like, damn, I just love somebody.

Speaker 4

And I also realized I also realized I was like, damn she was. She was the first nigga talking about Glizzies.

Speaker 3

And he said kind of like, yeah, that's she's got a lot of lingo that like that. You can say that.

Speaker 1

He's steaming like yeah, like know he's he was wondering tripping, right, what we're you say? The first rapper to her say trap? I heard say track, Wow, you feel me? We're making out of state traps?

Speaker 2

You feel me?

Speaker 3

Hey man, we is ahead of our time.

Speaker 4

Guess y'all was smoking trees. Listen, I got another shot here. I'm taking another shot across the sipping Henderson, the barrel, trees, backstays, of course, the bar West Coast and world.

Speaker 3

Why not wrong with.

Speaker 4

You?

Speaker 3

You're saying it's you're taking?

Speaker 2

Was that way?

Speaker 3

Hold on? Hold up?

Speaker 2

Was that track meant specifically for the soundtrack for Don't Be a Menace?

Speaker 3

That's not what's it on.

Speaker 1

Let's remixes on Don't Be a Minute. It's just you know we're talking about remixing. Is the can't be wasting My time Joint and don't be a minace in South Central Lisa Mona Lisa, in fact, Lisah.

Speaker 3

Yeah is still in the house, shout some Mona Lisa and the person was married and.

Speaker 6

Mary j Mona Lisa, the lock all our family, crazy crazy.

Speaker 3

Box video and a Nigga plan coming. I want to make that the bill I'm building. I want to start that. Hell yeah, dope, dope day. I got you know what I mean.

Speaker 4

I see some of the people around like they have no idea because you know, New York big, but and we understand.

Speaker 3

A lot of people. I'm looking at like people looking at it. What is.

Speaker 1

Just to figure back what you were saying with the Rene situation, would you put that in hip Hop's top storytelling?

Speaker 2

Yeah?

Speaker 1

Yeah, because you know, like when this is one thing for me being like you feel me, I'm the next generation.

Speaker 2

You feel me So I grew up.

Speaker 1

I was raised in the nineties when I was born in the nineties, so I grew up in the nineties.

Speaker 3

You feel me so.

Speaker 1

But as we get as I'm you know, my present days, it's like there's a lot of lost boys ship that don't be talked about and hip hop you feel me so this is honor. Like like I said, we all appreciate it. A lot of ship that don't get talked about and hip hop will get the same. You feel me praise that they give other ship hip.

Speaker 4

Hop to send me your question. But I think you're trying to say, is does what they not get?

Speaker 3

It's just due. I believe it. No no, no, no no no no no no no no no no no no no. I'm not saying I'm signing up.

Speaker 2

You know, you know, you know what we'd be like. You know, that's all I'm saying. That's what you know, not you know how they.

Speaker 1

Tried the storytellers and hip hop, oh yes, don't be mentioned in those conversations as far as but like you said, that's one of the most that's not in the hip hop culture. That's a timeless record is let me just let me just say.

Speaker 3

What's doing with that motherfucking taal ship with that? I gotta talk to him. I heard him. He pulled up. I'm like, what did you just say?

Speaker 14

Sir?

Speaker 3

All right? So if you want to tell a story, you hear the story. The world knows the story. Told me what what you're doing with the camera? What the should do? You're struck out on that one. People start watching the show because of that ship. And that's what I heard. That's what people are telling me. I ain't watching that ship. They ain't do your story nothing, no justice.

Speaker 5

Okay, because I didn't see this, I don't know.

Speaker 3

Can you tell me?

Speaker 4

Can you describe to me what story on the story they didn't? I'm here, I'm here for this ship. You watched dream Chimps, yes, or you watch tell Tales. I watched tales too.

Speaker 3

No, no, what you watch the most? Okay, watch drink you get one to that buddy. A lot of ship. I say, the stories on the stories on told right. Niggas gotta tell the story right, so tell us, so tell us.

Speaker 4

So you're saying that, thank god, So you're telling me that cheating.

Speaker 2

No, that was quia.

Speaker 5

I don't killer whiskey to walk down. I mean Japanese de.

Speaker 3

I mean, I gotta.

Speaker 4

Thank you. So you're telling me that, IRV Because for people that you know, tells is a is a story that they're telling and then they make.

Speaker 3

A whole movie BSEd on that.

Speaker 4

So you're saying that, huh yeah, based off a hip hop records. You're saying that he did.

Speaker 3

He did, Renee. Yeah, I don't know where he got that storyline from, right you you listen to the story on the record, on the radio on wherever, whatever? What do he do? He said something else, some other story and that was like the story.

Speaker 2

I get what he's saying.

Speaker 4

That reached out to you.

Speaker 3

I don't know who he reached out to if he did it, if he heard the story, he would have known better than to put that. I don't know what the hell he was thinking even allowing that. Who allowed that? That was nothing like what the story said? You trying to mess up our storyline? D That's how I took it Like that ain't how the story goes. And if you listen to the story on the record, you know that two don't correlate. What did a story do? I don't know what, but it was just what it was.

And it's like, yeah, dog, that was that shouldn't even been allowed to be on TV because everybody in the YO, my phone don't even ring like that. I G. Everything was going crazy, like yo, what they was doing? What they was?

Speaker 5

Theerve you said, going crazy because people.

Speaker 3

Like and it was like, Yo, what's the fun going on? That ain't the story. That's crazy straight like that.

Speaker 4

But is that something because you know, just just asking, is that something that he had to get permission from y'all or he went through the record labels.

Speaker 3

I don't know that being called me. We don't know nothing about that called me. I need somebody at the record label, like listen, man, we passed that day anyway, So don't know what I'm talking about. All I'm saying is, don't sunk up our don't woke up our story. You know what I'm saying. Just the world. I don't even know this was going down.

Speaker 2

That's crazy.

Speaker 3

Gotta be an house.

Speaker 4

Yeah, but it's like just being Devil's advocate. If he would have called you guys and said, yo, yo, look guys, I'm doing Renee, would you guys would have wanted input?

Speaker 3

Of course it was that's not it. No, I mean I haven't even seen them.

Speaker 4

I respect that.

Speaker 3

That's to me. You can't put out. You can't put that out.

Speaker 4

Because of the few episodes I believe I saw up tails, it was the rappers that wasn't around.

Speaker 3

You understand.

Speaker 4

I said that your handshake I liked, like for the episodes that I did see tales, I think I seen the bigger episode of Tell You for these other episodes that rappers wasn't around, you said this, This problem would have never happened had they just been with one phone caller to either of.

Speaker 3

Y'all exactly, okay, And I don't know. I mean, I've seen some of the s and they are all right.

Speaker 1

They they kind of correlated with the music. For me, you say the correlation because I didn't see this one.

Speaker 3

But this has nothing question. Do you remember the story, Renee? You heard anybody in the barber shop? He said? Yo, Niggas say, yo, you understory? Rene? Where was anybody in the barber shop? Where did this take place in the barber shop? All right? Then take me take this get shipped together. Nigga, say, yo, John's my brother. John's my man. But he could have even told this nigga, you for Queen's nigga. Queens man, that's how you take that wrong.

I don't never, man, I don't know where it took place. It had to take place like down south there was no city, nothing stays and queens he brought that joint to. Yeah where the popping?

Speaker 14

Yeah, yeah, that's cleary.

Speaker 3

But I respect what he do though, I respect her what he do. You know what I'm saying, But he just dropped the ball on that one. You know what I'm saying, Man, Yeah, because we're gonna put our movie on now.

Speaker 6

Niggas forgot because we left the industry a long time ago.

Speaker 3

Get the producers. Yea, your niggas know what they gotta ru change story. We got this series with all that story we got.

Speaker 5

We got the Lost Boys series coming to Hulu.

Speaker 3

Gotta get to put Dan. Get everybody together. I mean, whoever come holler at us now day to day. We working on that thing right now. You know what I mean. The Lost Boys, the man send the fellow that.

Speaker 4

Makes up I'm just saying, I'm telling them the story say Lost Boys, the man from Lost.

Speaker 3

Boys, the Men, the new TV show. We working on rating it in there now. Now his son is I can't. My son is a rat dude, right you see. So you got the whole team, most Boys, the Men. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2

You're trying to get that ship giving out these shotsouts.

Speaker 6

My man, day.

Speaker 3

Is that all we have to do?

Speaker 4

Confuse, youre sponsored by these cups, yes, sponsor by shouting earlier whiskey taste. This getting energy drinks afterwards. Yeah, I'm gonna get serious for for just one second.

Speaker 3

Wow, I'm gonna just ask this question we had.

Speaker 4

Yeah, because I believe I've seen it's on Black TV. But they say that Freaky Todd actually died in the hands.

Speaker 3

Of O d B.

Speaker 2

That's false. That's false.

Speaker 3

No niggas just be b B B be blabbing.

Speaker 2

It was said it on blab Yeah.

Speaker 6

Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait would you say was what on black?

Speaker 3

He said, Hold on, nigga, I don't know, he's no more. I just want to know what you're talking about.

Speaker 1

Now that there was an interview, you're talking to what you're talking about, right, Yeah, he said.

Speaker 3

That my pops died at O dB arms.

Speaker 1

I'm glad you brought that up because I wanted to be the first one to clear that up. That is absolutely false to the fans, because there's a lot of people that take these interviews until you feel me, like like earlier than until we get to that rate and start talking about the facts, and you start speaking on the facts because nobody know, everybody's been going doing whatever they going through in life.

Speaker 3

You feel me and okay, but when you start putting.

Speaker 1

Out that that's people take it from them, they think these platforms is fully one hundred percent credible because it's coming out from a person that's from a popular from a popular standpoint.

Speaker 3

You feel me, but that's the homie.

Speaker 2

You feel me.

Speaker 1

I'm not shotting what he said down before because I loved I love Tony. You feel me that he's from one three four one three.

Speaker 3

I don't know what the mother talk about.

Speaker 1

You know what does that's that that statement is totally false and it's all I'm saying. I'm stamping it all out of love, you feel me, because I don't want people to take that and run with that. You feel me that you can't run with that. You feel me that that is not true because you got that's two different parties number one and then now, not only are you saying that about our story, you feel me, you're putting the Wu Tang story and crossing it and it's

not true facts. You feel me, it's not true facts. It's not no no hate, no, it's not it's all out of love and it's just a lot of speaking facts on the likeacy. You feel me because we have a strong legacy that's embedded than this hip hop ship and it's havy.

Speaker 3

Like I said, has it been highlighted?

Speaker 2

How it's supposed to? You feel me?

Speaker 1

And this is our time to put it out there to the world, like these are the facts, this is what's going on, and this is what's about to happen. You feel met shout out d J F M E F N for the you know do it and we're doing.

Speaker 3

What we're doing. Talk at the young Yo, I don't even know what the fuck is going on, Like, Yo, what the fuck? It's all love. It's just clear.

Speaker 1

Like I said, shish you feel me? South Side we are farll rock were in the building. He's stacked one dues.

Speaker 2

You feel me.

Speaker 3

I'm a full rock nigga. You feel love?

Speaker 4

So how was it being in the can all that long and watching the rap game change?

Speaker 3

How did you feel? Oh man? Basically it was I seen the times her when I was I say about three, i'mnna just say, Nelly, it's hot in here, it's hot in here. Soul Train Train wasn't even playing it. It's crazy Jersey. But he had a run and I was in in that part of the being in jail and that long, that nigga was still going on. I was like, what the fun going on? Where to New York at right now?

Speaker 5

But I feel like it was say Nelly was still on your ship a little bit.

Speaker 4

I don't know.

Speaker 3

I got him, I got stories. Can I tell him something? Talk to them people, I'm gonna tell him something. You know what I'm going to Nobody knows about LB fan man. We them niggas out in Saint Louis side I'm talking about. I'm not throwing you in the in the mix. I'm just saying, who's all making megas? Okay? You know we seen Nelly as what fifteen sixteen year old? I remember I'm talking about, Yeah, nigga.

Speaker 6

We are the niggas that includes that nigga to get going, going, going, going going.

Speaker 3

Okay, and then what the Saint Luna six? First, let me run finished, don't talk to them niggas. I finish off.

Speaker 1

Now.

Speaker 6

So now nah enough for real, I'm the first nigga that weren't to mother. We don lost for his nigga, you know, because popping we was going hard. Hard niggas. The niggas in Saint Louis get big long nigga charge and make a long story, Sure, cousin, were the niggas that snuck Nelly and is cool in the club with us.

Speaker 3

That night because them niggas outside lost whether I love ya? Bang fast forward, right fast forward?

Speaker 2

You heard us, he said, we snucked Nelly and.

Speaker 3

Who's lost your father? Lets go whatever. We just got them in the club.

Speaker 6

So what I'm saying is after that, all of that, they became you know what I mean, you see what they are, and you know the funny story is, uh, we signed them the Universal Hello Being and who's a nigga doing the commercial for the Nelly and the Boys and the same Lunatics and all that.

Speaker 3

It was me fifty commercials for the Guard you know on this way, bro, I'm talking about back in the days we had to do he was doing radio own yeah yeah, ship like that.

Speaker 6

So I'm saying, man, I've been around the world and.

Speaker 3

Now yeah yeah yeah. And top it off, from what he said then, it was like Nelly and them, like we were saying, the Lunatics before, they wanted the Lost Boys like this universe who wanted a southern were the Northern They wanted a Southern group like us like the Lost Boys. If you really could tell we had it all. We had the group, the DJ, the dancer and all that. We had the combination of it. We grew up in

the Remember was the sat Lunatics. First they didn't like that Nelly broke off basically not broke off, but he became that solo artist. They still had the group. Then they had their dancer with the basket, you know, like that, I would be be wild. That was our dancer before you see all that ship exactly. But listen, we had that, that whole combination, that whole style. They just wanted a Southern version. Okay, they got that.

Speaker 6

That was.

Speaker 3

The next one was were the Lost Boys? What's the next group? After the Lost Boys? Hot Boys? Hot Boys cast? Remember that, see I could take it back, you know, memory of what they wanted everything the Lost Boys on they that's why they all universal universal. I watched, I watched what was going on after. They still wanted a better Southern group than the same Lunatics. So basically, how many people in the in the in the in the Hot Boys about four of them. How many in the

Lost Boys four of them? They wanted a Southern Lost Boy group, Southern like we the Northern, the Southern you ain't got nothing better than us. Listen, I'm gonna tell you when you talk about history and ship like that, at that time, out of one album, we got seven, seven songs and videos when you only could get two at that time.

Speaker 2

If he was lucky, he was lucky.

Speaker 3

If you got lucky, and we got seven out of one album, who could fuck with niggas like that? I mean we we did, I think, but you the top us you have to look for, and those were individuals, those were in a group. Those are the individuals now that they had to put together for basically two rappers, the rapper and hype man and the DJ. And you know what I'm saying, that common man, you know what I'm saying, you had to put a whole four man crew together to fuck with that. But and give them

a bunch of money. When we started out, we didn't have no money. You know how that three of us are three hundred me own body, you know what I'm saying, three hundred thousand dollars budget. Like I said, hundred didn't know exactly what to do with us three hundred thousand dollars. We had gold and our first was that the pre tour whatever that shit is you know what I'm saying, with a loser our regular tour, remember that cousin. Yeah,

we was. We had gold, that's it. But there was another one in New Orleans, Gavin.

Speaker 2

Like that.

Speaker 3

Man, It's all around them. Man, Listen, we was already gold before we even came down. So we was like you know what I'm saying. We was there. That's what I said. I travel We traveled like a motherfucker. Like I said. The airplane was our our taxi cat, you know what I'm saying. But we was out there like forever. When we come to the airport, they got two cars ready for us. Where y'all going? Which way y'all going? That's how bad we was working, you know what I'm saying.

That's what I said when Biggie used to say, y'all never had my shoulders ship. We was working for since we started. The times we got in that game. That's one thing about us and what we was doing with Super Mario. We nin' super Mario. Deepigg was a nigga that we did so much in a matter of time. You know what I'm saying That it was like mind blowing to them. They didn't know, like I said, we already came with We were a certain find of clothes and this and that, you know what I'm saying. Hats

were going to cigars, blunts and all that stuff. We came in with a game plan and it was mean something that motherfuckers ain't no. But they couldn't fathom what the hell when we lose money or this, that and the third. And we had this, like I said, like when we say a thousand of a thousand, getto deep. When I say Americas, we traveled America, every state, fifty two whatever were there, you know what I'm saying. And then if we wasn't there, they came to see us.

Then when we go across the pond, Japan and Australia and all that stuff we seen just grow up, you know what I'm saying. That we've seen it. So it was like what we know and what we did and what they don't know. You know what I'm saying. The universal uptown is at both of them. Basically when we came up, they don't even understand what the fuck we was doing because they it was too big for them. So our status, I'll say right now that affected us.

Now It's like when I listened to Like when I was locked up, I was listening to music, and I was like, Yo, they be putting into old school stuff. They be doing this saying why the hell we ain't getting it? We might get it for certain DJs that might live DJs or something like that, but on the radio, why the fuck we ain't getting if we was the biggest thing in rap. But people don't really notice that.

Some people, as the old school niggas, they notice that they hear it, they recognize they were really Yo, I got a you got me out of jam but jail and this, that and the third. But now I don't hear our music on the radio like you would hear Biggie or anybody else. Nah, it's just I don't hear it. I don't hear it on the radio like it's a legendary thing. You know what I'm saying. We missed what that ship was rock Bells, No no for that Andree Martinez back in the days, we only missed that beat

Battle of the Beasts. We only missed that by one day, just because the homies Marion Meth came in on our last day and beat us. That was like I love Mary and Mary Meth, which record All I Need, but came in and not us offt the place. They said still I was, I was either a lex Or or Jeeps, one of the two. I think it was lex our first song. But it got so much accolades, you know

what I'm saying. It was a legendary records, Like we had accolades that what New York's New York City was that ship No No No, the TV show under Cover that was the first episode. Yeah, it was like one of those episodes and shit like that. My brother rest in peace, Big mic He passed away at that same time. So the things that we did, like putting things into place, putting rocket and high skyrocket and certain plateaus and stuff like that, we ain't getting recognition for none of that,

you know what I'm saying. A lot of shit that we did. We helped a lot of states. When I was in jail, I was telling them, niggas know me through their parents, their grandparents, and that shows that we was around for a long time, you know what I'm saying.

We was around for a long time, and niggas just don't give it the respect, like you don't hear our music like you would hear it like not saying in rotation, but in rotation, you know what I'm saying, And it takes like a real DJ that be like given honest that I'll play your shit. I'll be hearing DJ scratch and stuff. I'll be hearing different DJs, but it doesn't resonate like it's here, it's here, it's here. But niggas when you hear it, they be like, yeah, them niggas

is legendary. Play our ship. Let us be heard like everybody else will be heard. Oh yeah, you know what I'm saying. That's the real shit. That's just just how I feel. You know what I'm saying. Because I've been sitting back, like I said, nineteen years, I've seen a lot of shit, right, the music change, the world changed because I came out. Now I'm looking at the ship like these niggas, what the fuck they're doing? And to

our music. I heard you say a few things with a couple of people, like how our music has changed and how niggas is doing it Right now, I'm listening to niggas like like I go on my little tours and see I'm hearing shit and I go to different places people ain't putting in the work. These young cats. No disrespect to any of them, but they're not putting into work like that. So I hear them. Like you said, we we we do our music and if we're doing something, we get a TV track and all this sudden ship.

So what are you talking about? These artists that go out there and rhyme over there? Nigga, I've been my first tour. I'm like, yo, y'all can't. I don't like that ship. We grew up hard. You gotta be able to remember you wrote these ships, say them ships?

Speaker 2

Can I pay you back off that? Though?

Speaker 1

Because I'm I'm an artist and you know, I work with other artists.

Speaker 2

I got a younger artists that I work in. Don't don't defendsh.

Speaker 3

We gotta hear. We got to hear.

Speaker 1

Because, like I said, I go on the roll of you know, the expectations for me is a little bit different. I'll perform with live bands before, with DJs I never met before. I feel me, so we rock out, you feel me? Like I said, I got to perform with Karo rest.

Speaker 3

One and literally I wanted to.

Speaker 1

I literally watched him perform two songs that everybody knew and freestyle the whole show and let me freestyle with.

Speaker 2

Him on the show.

Speaker 1

You feel nobody in my generation can say they did that.

Speaker 2

That's what MC.

Speaker 1

You's hard to be on that's hard to be on stage, to be able to to hold yourself down.

Speaker 3

You feel me.

Speaker 1

It's not too many young you feel me because they don't understand what hip hop really is. You feel me hip hop right now. Like you said, y'all went from going from real to rip to us being able to go and pro tools and just yo, you spit this ball. You can spit sixteen balls individually and they'll mix it up and make it sound like you just split it on one track.

Speaker 3

You feel me, So you do eight ball.

Speaker 1

You can do whatever whatever you want to do. Like you said, it doesn't take the niggas don't take the time to pray this day rhyms, no more niggas, don't. Niggas don't go to their mens and be like yo, I just wrote this.

Speaker 3

You feel me how this sounds?

Speaker 2

You feel me?

Speaker 1

So it's a different thing. But when it comes to performing over the tracks, you know, like now in this generation, since it's so accessible, everybody want to chase the bag the expectations for performances, especially for up and coming artists is no real uh like it's no real like limitating, no, no, not no real expectations.

Speaker 3

So all the promoters like, oh, I.

Speaker 1

Bet I got to show today if you can pay, but if you could pay for the slot, no no, no, hey me out thought.

Speaker 2

If you can pay for the slide, you get there.

Speaker 1

And then on the other hand, it's nobody on these artists teams. That's like, yo, bro, you need to be practicing to perform professionally, not perform as up and because a lot of these artists are getting hot on TikTok and getting hot on you feel me on on these digital so they're not it's not even say that they're

not real artists. They're not professional performers. They're not professional artist made but listen often oftimes there's a there's another defense for the people who perform with backtracks, especially new artists.

Speaker 2

They'll they'll do all these showcases with ship sound systems and that's that's that's that's the mics and the and the.

Speaker 3

And the music don't match up at all.

Speaker 1

Back So what I'm saying, though, it's nobody in the team like yo, get up and go to sound checks so that we could go figure out the game plan before we get there. You feel me like me and my young boys, and we go.

Speaker 3

We got our whole mics sometimes sometimes we have our whole mic.

Speaker 1

So the system is, you feel me, it's compatible for our ship. You know, we'll bring our own ship. We got our men's that funk with the sound that makes it sound how.

Speaker 3

We needed to sound so that we could do what we gotta do.

Speaker 2

You feel me.

Speaker 1

So in the defense of what's going on, it's not no real it's not no real standards, you feel me. There's no standards for these new artists. You got new artists popping up tomorrow and yo yo, And that's what I'm trying to see the same ship on.

Speaker 3

Niggas ain't really promoting but nothing but girl music.

Speaker 6

I'm talking about from our era music to this era now niggas is want the bag. You know what I mean, murdering everybody got the wrong ops and all that.

Speaker 3

You already know the game. I'm just saying you got like you said, you got mad quickly easy. That's what my ratto was about, Like giving them cats something that you can perform your ship instead of being on the YouTube war Listen, the funniest ship is that I've seen some motherfucker you lip sinking? How you out of breath sinking? This is the wildss ship. This is why I was like, Yo, I couldn't believe this ship. Like, no, man, aren't even

putting in the work. That's the thing that people is going so fast, that people want it so fast that they're not even putting in the work to get it. And that goes into them people like regular licens situations and down to this music. You ain't putting in the work. How you How you out of breath? You ain't smoking, drinking or nothing. You're barely moving, but you out of breath a lot of ship, you know what I'm saying. So I'm like, the way of the world is totally

fucked up, you know what I'm saying. And that's just how I feel. That's just how I feel, man, the world is fucked up because if everybody want something so fast so fast. Don want the bag? I want the bag. You're not even willing to willing to work for the bag. You just want it. And it's just like I'm entitled because what I got a couple of views.

Speaker 2

And that's it. It's a quick bag.

Speaker 3

I got a couple of bagging attention and hoping to get attention.

Speaker 1

And then it's so it's crazy because it's like you get a bunch of people that jump behind it because they see how easy it is. Like these artists don't know how to before these artists get lit, they don't know the opportunities that's out there for them. It's nobody that's like literally in the so it's somebody praying on them, that's like, oh, this person just went viral. All right, I'm gonna jump on this artist and go to work

and show them the bag. So if I could go and get fifteen racks a show for this viral.

Speaker 3

Artist and give them whatever they think, whatever they think they were.

Speaker 1

I'm gonna go and I could eat and I could keep doing this.

Speaker 3

They gonna keep doing that.

Speaker 1

It's like a predators like this Internet made it more predatorial for people to you know, voture on shit. Look how many Look how many artists that you like? For me opinionated, you'd be like, yo, this artist is doodo or this artist like who's.

Speaker 2

Even entertaining this shit?

Speaker 1

But they're so there's such a sensation in this and it's so much worth for them, and you're like, what the fuck? But it's like it's it's people praying on how to make a bag off of them and once they see it bad. You come from nothing and you see a little bit of change, your lifestyle start changing a little bit.

Speaker 3

You're gonna go with that, right, You're gonna go for the bad.

Speaker 6

Feel me.

Speaker 3

Let me we won for one minute.

Speaker 4

I know we spoke about it a little bit earlier and you corrected that rumor. But I remember at one point making it. I remember one point us being a rapper like kind of excluded us from like police, like you know, police would be kind of like leave us alone.

Speaker 5

You know, the drug dealers will protect us.

Speaker 4

And then at some point it changed and it changed to like the rappers the enemy now, like and we don't know who are who are ops is?

Speaker 3

You don't know whoever?

Speaker 4

And I remember, like, you know, you know, damn Master Jay freaky ta, you know what I mean, the murders of them changing this trajectory because now it's like, damn, we thought we if we make it as a rapper, we're helping so many people.

Speaker 5

We're safe.

Speaker 4

But then at some point for that it changed, like you know what I'm saying, what though I remember those two deaths like for me for being from Queens, it was the Freaky Tar death and uh the death of jam Master J where we had to be like wait a minute, like even us as the people who helped make because one rapper helps sixteen different families, right, and even us whereas now like like like what what was it like for all three of y'all?

Speaker 3

Because yeah, man, you already know man, thank you. Damn, I ain't talking about that ship, you know what I mean? Man, that sh it was like God blessed we was out. That was it was like a three night situation. Right my brother got married.

Speaker 6

Mm hmmm, oh well we'll got married.

Speaker 3

You know what I'm saying. It was my birthday, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6

And it was your birth it was my brother got killed freaky that's the ill ship, right. Niggas don't even understand, like the nigga got killed on my birthday like months like what the fuck?

Speaker 3

We always go through this every year. I don't even celebrate my birthday. Like, niggas don't even get that ship. It's crazy.

Speaker 2

May fourteenth, that's birthday. May fourteenth is his birthday, Marshalls.

Speaker 3

On May fourteenth, that's we do free today on me. Yeah, we just do free tired day May fourteenth. We all go out there do what we do.

Speaker 6

But now he got killed on my birthday, so that always hurt, you know what I mean, Like, damn man, I mean, yo, that's crazy, right, I mean you already know what I.

Speaker 3

Feel about that ship. I don't even like talking about it too much. I was just so crazy with it.

Speaker 5

So it was like, oh, no, man, I think you know, Drake Chance taking noise for everything.

Speaker 3

That's that's that's good. I think right now we need to have a moment of silence.

Speaker 15

Was a freaking times, okay, and have more baby no you kid? Facts mm hmm, rest in peace freaking time.

Speaker 3

I get it that. Yeah, I'm okay, man, everybody some serious ship. One of the dopest voices in the game.

Speaker 5

Fact now was he considered a hype man.

Speaker 3

It was just I don't know how they didn't count, man, he was just what what what they say? Your hype man? But rap to rap? I don't understand right for me seeing Tale since we was in high school, Talik used to remember your mama jokes going at each other. Talk could get at you and get at him, to get at both of y'all, and in a pattern. You know

what I'm saying. That's how he developed his skills. He had heat all day and he had jokes, so he would get at both of y'all in a pattern that was like oh, ship having stopped, and then after that he'll stop, pull out a market and write a stick man on your legs on Jean, this is this is at lunchtime. And we skipped from lunchtime, our first period, lunchtime till the end of the day, un period, three period, Cat's going cheeks me over there, wrapping time, be over there,

Louis playing cards. The situation was crazy, saying and I just like saying. For I came from I was in Queens, I went to South Carolina, I came back to South Carolina, and FING came to John Adams. And that's how we all got together, meeting each other individuals, you know what I'm saying, knowing that everybody and green Eyes maybe mad. There was a couple of us, but basically Talik were just getting that rhythm and fuck your heads up. Eventually

we started forming our group. Like Sheeks, Me and Cheeks was always in the basement. Me and Cheeks started going to the basement doing it. I'm telling Cheek, I'm telling Tali, come on, let's go come to my crib. Just practice practice. And basically one thing that started practicing practicing it was says on ghetto boys, mind playing tricks on me, mind playing tricks. Me and talegu did a joint called twenty four hour, twenty four hour, you know, twenty four twenty

four carroc Gold. Remember that twenty four Me and him practiced that practice that me and Cheeks was doing. Other ship black Man, black Man. Cheeks was the black man at that time, and that black fish back in Guyons and all that ship. He's doing all that at that time. Then he became and when I say this, nigga, I ain't go front. People loved him because he could rhyme without cursing. They ain't cursed nothing. That nigga rhyme without. And then y'all y'all like Renee. But before Renee, there's

another chick. You know, we got chicks and ship damn bad. There was Donna. We had joints. Yeah, we had a lot of colds music, you know what I'm saying, good songs that we practicing, and he goes to the parking practicing stuff like that. We tape him in the basement and shit like that. I practiced with Tye twenty four Cargo. The only thing with ty was he couldn't remember his rhymes. So basically I gave him a mini tape recorder and

made him listen to what you said. Because Tyler could freestyle like you never you thought he wrote some shit and he a freestyle from Gear on the Block. He'll run for hours and then be on that title. You know what I'm saying. He might just start rhyming, then start flowing on niggas, you know what I'm saying, start getting heated just around the circle and shit or in the pre shit just to this lady. He goes into

that shit. So I'm just like, YO, record that ship when you go to the studio, when you go around the way in the set of third record that shit. He used to be on the boulevard on on god Brew Worthie four niggas is out there and I could hear him. He let me hear the tapes and ship. He might be talking and stuff like that, and then held just start rhyming on niggas, wrapping and breaking on niggas, heating on niggas, and ship like that. Everybody was out there.

He got what you call booble. Fifty fifty was one three fourth God. Literally, listen, you don't even understand that the history got fifty a boxer. You know what I'm saying. It was, he's a boxer. He's been doing them. That was our basket to right, that's our basketball. We was trying to form a team. Y'all don't understand that the division that we had coming up, all we needed was a football player and a baseball player. We had we had. We had a football player, Jeff kim Brooke. I forgot.

I forgot about him. I forgot it first. And we did have the homie Montel got a team in the league Attle.

Speaker 16

He was.

Speaker 3

He was a heavy. So we had a lot of ship. You know what I'm saying. You understand our thoughts is different. We had players that was going to associate with lost boys. We try to get our clothing line. So all this ship was before it was bigger than music. For it was before what's going on in the last fifteen years with Jay with the sports team and all that stuff. Yeah, were already thinking, like we already was thinking this is

not you know what I'm saying. We had a lot of ship going on with the clothes and like football and stuff like that. That ship, so he had those thoughts, y'all even came out, do you remember on So it's a lot of ships walkome walk up with. That's that's how we've been around since the beginning of people's ideas. Struck connection with the Mally's, the Mally Marley's not the Mallies.

Speaker 17

Everyone else heard the Mallbery's brother Tella introducer going is just us dance shout out and who go on out?

Speaker 3

The Baker he got the port Uh he introduced us tomorrow like we're doing like the little show like not just little was on the B stage. Yeah, the B stage, you know the ma Snooth Dog and was over there. We do our show.

Speaker 6

They come to us, the Marllys will come check our show out because every we're fucking fans of the final Damien Mally whatever, right, Yeah, I mean used to go so we met on the they say you come to the bus and bloody about anything that.

Speaker 3

We can't imagine that. Imagine that. Imagine that bus. You got the Martis, you got Snoop, and you got the Lost Boys on the one bus. I was, damn man, the second. I ain't gonna say I was the first, but I was like the second to go off that bus like this. Yes, yeah, I don't even remember.

Speaker 6

Everybody even made the first record we ever made with them. It's called guiltiness. Guiltiness.

Speaker 3

Oh yeah, shut damn Babylon album. They was going to bust somebody else. Yeah, is that why you were down south my way? Because a lot of the Marty's that way. Well yeah, yeah, listen, listen, those our brothers. Those are brothers that we we We got on that bus and connected made that bond, just like Snoops. Those are our brothers, like we can. They used to call big. What you're doing. That's when I was living uptown. It's big what you're doing?

Me and Fu Kwan with his roommates. What you're doing? Nah, we're just chilling. Hey, there's a ticket at the little Guardia airport. Get there. We get down there and they got pick us up and this, that and the third take us to this little secluded area. So we chilling there like we're smoking blunt. They getting soccer ship made up in the because they're getting the soccer poles and going exclusion and it's like, man, it's nice and good. They gave us a half weed. That's you know. All

these people start coming. Carls Scott, Lauryn Hill then came with a bunch of a stroller joints on it. It's like damn doing that.

Speaker 1

It was it was.

Speaker 3

It was going down and they started playing and kicking and everything else. The Marlly is man, that's like family. They're calling niggas like, yo, come on down, what's up? You know what I'm saying. Steve and Damien, Me and Damien did a beat together at the crib. Mama, Mally we were family. When I say were family. We come to Florida that Joe Mercer like that I beat Joe. It was our family. That's stuff like that. All of us used to do it.

Speaker 5

So we don't gonna take a shot.

Speaker 2

This is a drink.

Speaker 5

This is is a drink.

Speaker 3

Shot.

Speaker 5

You just take a sip of your own drink.

Speaker 3

L was in the building.

Speaker 5

Now what do y'all like more? Because you know they're going through your music questions you as.

Speaker 3

What then music is like?

Speaker 5

I could see.

Speaker 4

Y'all make music thinking about the performance as well. We're performance, so so what do y'all like more making the music or performing the music?

Speaker 3

Let's go. That's one thing about me. Like when I go do these tours on my grime, tours on my grime next week.

Speaker 1

Six shut it out, want grind, man, this is the tour that I'm there to.

Speaker 3

You already know man, it's all us. You know what I'm saying. Everybody's invited. But even when I was in jail, just saying another people like, Yo, how you like that ship? You like that video? Like the video is cool? Videos is cool. I want to see like the BT world. I want to see these niggas performance ship. See we was the type that was performing. We'll get the back. We'll get up there go when we get that. Decide everybody we stage niggas. Some of these cats ain't stage niggas.

The niggas is just stay in the middle like this and it's not a third. You know what I'm saying, no disrespect. I'm not gonna be real, really real, be real. The homie, the big homieyall, Big Homie when jay Z came out. Jay Z used to have a billetproof vest and stay in the middle of the stage and rat real fast fast. Nobody really like got that, you know what I'm saying when he first came out. Yeah, there was a couple of times. There was one time that I definitely remember in the Bronx and I and I

told people. I used to tell niggas yea the story. There was a Vibe magazine which Shine on the cover Remy Martin's Remy. She said her first show that she's seen, she's seen jay Z performing. People booed him and said, put the Lost Boys on. It's just the show. That's the fact. A lot of people do shows throughout throughout my time. I've seen a couple of guys that got busy. I even see a couple of dudes imitate our dads. MM. But I seen this. I can't just say I heard this.

I've seen this on live TV shows and ship like that. It influenced a lot of culture, a lot of people. I'm talking about down here in Atlanta, well, be in Florida. I'm talking about in Atlanta, because Atlanta became the biggest population you know where it's popping. You know what I'm saying. That happened since like I said that Nellie Joint, our cast was coming in, making sure ship was coming in. A lot of ship was going down. But anyway, rim Shop,

the rim Shop, Detroit Hold. We seen that Atlanta culture anyway. But for real, for real, I seen I've seen these cats grow up. I was showcase made other dudes if they was really paying attention. This is how we make these people come to us, you know what I'm saying. Involved in the show and ship like that, because that's what we was doing. But it wasn't lip syncing or nothing like that. The record scratch, the record scratch, and we were still getting it in.

Speaker 5

That's or real DJA.

Speaker 3

Records scratch. Yeah, you know, if it was sucked up, it fucked up. We start over and we do it again. Nowadays, you don't got that, yep. Nowadays, you don't got real performances on stage. You're staying around just you and your guys sitting here. You might be here and be over here, but they ain't. They still together like they scared ship like that. We them dudes that go, we'll get in the crowd, we'll go up the steps or whatever this that and the third you don't that told you you

barely got niggas. Just like I said, moving around, you got to entertain these people. These people came to see you. People came to pay this money to see you. These hundred dollars tickets and ship like that. They came to see you, just like they're paying for Beyonce. You know what I'm saying. They're paying for Beyonce. Makes giving it problem.

Speaker 5

It's something that's been floating around.

Speaker 3

For a minute. Yeah, this is dope m O our cool J he low cool J. Yeah, no diego or seeing that?

Speaker 6

What what is that?

Speaker 3

You don't know he's going going with? He's saying something he's saying.

Speaker 4

That sounds boreal Nelly, What I see that at the News Arena because the Queen toll?

Speaker 3

Yeah, queens see that?

Speaker 4

That would be with Queen's Day in Flushing Metal listen. Can we make a Queen's Day tour all of us?

Speaker 3

You know we can't get the queens get the money toll?

Speaker 4

I mean that's what this is.

Speaker 12

Basically, say queens get the money cool quest most I said no if I did, I had I had.

Speaker 3

A dream I used to lay on that bunk other books. I'm a little bottom book. I'm looking up and I had these dreams.

Speaker 4

Caught megan large professional and I had these dreams, like yo, Queen exotic.

Speaker 3

Everybody can make it, but at least a couple of hundred thousand. Yeah, hey man, just sign me up. A couple of hundred thousands. Already had all that ship playing out Queen sign rest of the city.

Speaker 2

No, no, at the what's that ship?

Speaker 3

The the US the new arena?

Speaker 2

They rock the bells?

Speaker 1

No, doctor bell ship was at the tennis at the tennis ship summer dread Summer Jim, is that what's the name of that ship? The new ship with the hockey team about to be at the US.

Speaker 3

Hockey team about to come to the Queen queensus queensy, you know what's that? What's the location? Jersey? That that was Queen if anything, nobody know the US.

Speaker 1

Be a rental. That's what summer Jim at this ship and then usually the rock the bells. We got too big ass queens.

Speaker 3

Queens don't got And every Birthday in Atlanta.

Speaker 4

Big up to everybody that goes to the Queen Day in Atlanta. I happened to be there the day before it, and every yea barrel, every fucking let me say barrel. We're not a barrow, but every town like yeah, yeah, like we left the day the day before, the day after. I forget and I see, I see South Jamaica, Holland, I see, I see everybody, everybody, everybody, and.

Speaker 5

They all gave money in Atlanta.

Speaker 4

So just make Queen things.

Speaker 2

Big that up.

Speaker 16

Up.

Speaker 3

We've seen a lot, man, yes, man, yes, the Olympics. That's when Queen's lot basically came down when the Olympics came.

Speaker 4

Let me ask you something. If you could change any thing in your life, who would you change?

Speaker 3

The only thing I would have changed, And you know people are always talking about I wouldn't change that because it me and me who are a Certain things make people who they are, but sometimes situations happen. I wouldn't. I would have changed that jail sentence. But do you say what I would have changed that jail. I would not have been in jail, even though I say that, because the things that I learned in jail, I learned something in jail. When you go there, you're not not

going to learn something. You're gonna learn how to do. I knew young cats that didn't know how to clean ass, regardless the toilet, bowler, the floor, or whatever the case may be. Niggas learn in jail. If you never did that ship before, you're going to learn how to cook. You're going to learn how to do this. Do that ship you ain't did at home when you were young. Your mother and your parents is doing it for you.

You're gonna learn how to do shit because you got old heads like me and older heads they're gonna show you shit I learned in jail. But the fact is you're gonna learn. You're gonna be able to learn and show and tell. You know what I'm saying, You're when you get kids or whatever, you're gonna show them how to do this, do that. I wouldn't have got that jail centers, but if I didn't, I wouldn't have learned

the ship that I know how to do now that. Yeah, nineteenth strict, I learned a lot because not just saying the pressure. That's why I'm gonna have this podcast. Visiting ours was big. This is big nice. You know what I'm saying. Go ahead, boy, Niggas that have been in jail can teach people out here. We see a different world than y'all see. Y'all, y'all been out here, we see a whole lot of shit that niggas be like, Ah, this shit is hard, shit is troubled. That's just a

bunch of lazy shit, you know what I'm saying. Shit, because we seeing things that we could do to manipulate that system that y'all seeing and we already building. You know what I'm saying. Okay, when I got out there, I could do this. I could do that, I could do that. If they doing it that way, we can do it this way. But while y'all out here, y'all in the struggle, because I lived both sides, so I

see the struggle and stuff like that. But sometimes just a little extra money or something like that, you get me what I want to do over here. While y'all over here, I see I got homies, you know what I'm saying. While y'all doing this over here, these niggas seen this, brought it over here and elevate it. It's just sometimes people's lazy, I say. Sometimes they say the Corona got niggas lazy and shit like that because now they ain't gotta work so hard for money. Then I

ain't gonna work loans them since just outside. So niggas like yo outside two days, I work for two, three weeks a month or something like that. Fall back and get a check and ship like that. Lot of ship got Trump, Donald Trump, a lot of ship got lady. Donald Trump was.

Speaker 2

Kind of a real nigga.

Speaker 3

I'm being honest. I ain't gonna say Donald Trump got me out of jail. Y'all stand Donald Trump got me out of jail. You got jail. Donald Trump got this out of jail, the black man. But Obama still the same things that list. Obama had, the same things that Trump had. Obama didn't do it. Trump said I'm gonna do what you ain't do because a lot of ship that he didn't do that, a lot of a lot of ship that he had said I'm gonna do it. Just a Trump. He did that. No, he did that.

He he did that. Trump. He boy couldn't do it. He just did something that you're talking about. He did boys a real conversation. But no, no, no, he did shipped that what the white boy can do, can't do, he's dealing with a white man can do. And that's what he did. I thank him for you coming on. No, I'm just saying, I say, a piece of ships.

Speaker 1

But I think we used to come in these boxes to what some golden some golden flowers with the golden You don't want to be drunk traffickers cheeks.

Speaker 2

Flowers.

Speaker 3

We don't.

Speaker 6

On.

Speaker 4

This just makes a noise for your mom. I'm not gonna overlook the fact that he at least you in Kodak Black. That's two yearal niggas to meet two real niggas and little Wayne. And no, I ain't gonna say that's real niggas to me. I'm sorry what he did, mean, what he did was.

Speaker 2

What you do.

Speaker 3

I'm like what listen was just trying to do something better because exactly like you know what I'm saying, even though we know everybody knows his white right all right, Obama, Obama.

Speaker 4

Tried to that, but Joe Biden didn't even know what's up with him?

Speaker 2

We get into the wrong right rights.

Speaker 1

What else hell we punish right now?

Speaker 3

Right now?

Speaker 2

God President, Sorry, I bet you better like him, because right now World War three is right up. This he better not handled.

Speaker 5

I don't want him to be involved.

Speaker 3

You see, you see they stopped sucking with our dollar bill.

Speaker 7

Now.

Speaker 4

Yeah, they're just trying to sidle us down.

Speaker 3

I think back in the day your grandma.

Speaker 2

They trying to do.

Speaker 3

But they are acting stupid.

Speaker 5

Yeah, but that dollar that they bill is going to suck us up for a long time.

Speaker 2

Listen, they're trying to get away from the dollar.

Speaker 3

I remember bill was a lot of money.

Speaker 2

I remember one time.

Speaker 3

I remember, I.

Speaker 5

Remember once I went to London. They simmoned me down.

Speaker 2

I gave them.

Speaker 4

It's just like because there's like you can't spend American money in London. So I gave the guy that's cashing in like a thousand or like twelve hundred dollars and they gave me like four fifty nine.

Speaker 3

I was like, wait a minute.

Speaker 5

I said, I know I failed math.

Speaker 3

Class, but this ain't right.

Speaker 2

That house money, Yeah, I owe me.

Speaker 5

And they said the American dollar ship out here.

Speaker 3

Yeah it was that.

Speaker 2

I don't remember. The Euro at one point was more money than yeah kicking off, but it wasn't bad for us at that time.

Speaker 3

You good though. But that's how I say with this money right now, to say it off, the money that they're making right now, if there was an hour to an hour eraror say we was making like the most she was making twenty thirty thousand, that was a ley. That was big money now because if it I got to keep it right now nowadays, twenty thirty years later, now, twenty thirty thousand ain't the same. It ain't the way to be a millionaire now isn't the same as it was back. And it's always in a certain time of

ever and ship like that. You know what I'm saying. I can't say it, but in that era, you know what I'm saying. Because a dollar of a dollar chips will buy you four things. You get a bag of chips, you get a more fucking juice, water, your quarter water, what say, little debies, and something else for a dollar, get you get you get you a meal? Yeah, now that was really.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I remember I like I'm sounding there in the juice for a dollar.

Speaker 3

Yeah, you had less than a dollar. Slice slices.

Speaker 2

At one point.

Speaker 5

For your health, bro, what slics is not bad for your health?

Speaker 3

There? Like, tell me what the healthy slights? You shout out? Allen Street, Allen Street, buddy, Chinese bus.

Speaker 2

Want to go from New York to Boston, New York across the globe.

Speaker 3

Shout out to about it. I just want to say, I just want to give him a shoutow. And I told him to, said give me a shoutow that anyway. And I heard that would cheap rock up and down ninety five all over now.

Speaker 2

And you get sucked.

Speaker 3

I heard about it was. It was the Southwest of buses. My god, going donars to ride the bus from New York to fucking Ward. You know so Eddie joined ed Yes, queens queens, queens queens, he showed up. Men off.

Speaker 6

If you don't know another Queens legend, you don't know how to get down here from.

Speaker 3

Down over there. I heard that ship was like crazy, but I don't say nothing. I don't know that was. That was that Japanese bus. The Japanese so crazy.

Speaker 6

Now that should be real, little gay, your should to all them people that shouts to this cigarette smileless.

Speaker 5

Cheeks by the gave the most shout outs.

Speaker 3

Given. That's like you, like you really.

Speaker 2

You know that's a person right there shout coming.

Speaker 3

Shut up. Let me, oh, I'm stay in mind in early you.

Speaker 5

Let me ask you.

Speaker 4

And I know this is kind of like a cliche type of question, but did you ever think that hip hop would make it this far.

Speaker 3

God damn did I think it? I guess so because I wanted to be in it since I've been first heard of it, since I first since like seventy nine. Yo, how the fun older you? You know what I'm saying. This is before you heard it on the radio. I was going to part I actually, no disrespect, I was going to to the Bronx. My cousins lived in the Bronx, and I went to a basement party and I heard let's dance to the drummers beat must be oh listen, and I'm like, imagine, I'm like the record and I'm

here and this and he was dancing. There's some bullshit as record player, not a stereo or a record player, and the guy was trying to and it was fucking his song. But when he put it back on, everybody dance. It's started to groove back on, you know what I'm saying. And that song became under the songs of somebody rhyming over it. Even though I heard Curtis blow with basketball rap, that was like the first song that was on the radio.

Speaker 12

Not to me.

Speaker 3

I don't remember sugar Hill Gang being the first joint. I heard curse and then that basketball forgive me, But I think little Mama what Little Mama's mother sung on that song? People playing bass?

Speaker 2

Little Mama's song was like a first R and B pist. Little Mama's mom.

Speaker 3

Her mother was like the first R and B person, the first first R and B artist.

Speaker 5

Little Mama that crashed the stake.

Speaker 4

That's what we're talking about, that first losses popping her mom.

Speaker 2

People, I love you want to know, you know, you want.

Speaker 3

To know what her mom pomped me up? Your cousin? Sure that boy? Oh that Buffy? That's Buffy. I just say buffalo mom. Mom blow over there like yeah. But her mother was the first R and B artist on death jam that's you know.

Speaker 4

They're playing, that's that's little Mama's crazy.

Speaker 3

If I'm not mistaken, that's her. But I'm more than ninety percent if you said that's her mother, I'm wages. If y'all google it, you I didn't put it like word. I didn't listen. I didn't put it together. Listen. I didn't put it together to she said from one of those Galaxy show she was in her mother. Yeah, her mother was like the first R and b artist on Death Jam. Who was the first artist like beginning of Death Jam, Curtis Blow.

Speaker 2

This was like seventy was he officially Death Jam was just managed by Rush Management because that might be the difference in that in that state wasn't.

Speaker 3

For Death Jam? Then you might know so, but I'm not. I'm not mistaken. I should go together, right pret God, what the deal? I heard that on the radio. First he talked about beast streets.

Speaker 4

We had crazy legs. Yeah, but he said he shot a drug commercial with Curtis Blow.

Speaker 3

They did blow right after them. They didn't blow. It was a crazy shot drugs commercial.

Speaker 2

Drugs Spike commercial was just duke, wasn't crazy, Like.

Speaker 3

I don't know what's crazy? Accident spipe commercial with us?

Speaker 7

Hell?

Speaker 3

Yeah crazy.

Speaker 5

Let's talk about the Spike conversion.

Speaker 16

We had.

Speaker 2

To talk about it.

Speaker 1

You saw you remember we was talking about you being categorized as the white man.

Speaker 3

Not for nothing.

Speaker 5

We did want conversation.

Speaker 3

Hold on, hold on, you know the name skills.

Speaker 1

That so excuse us, So look not even to talk about it, just like you know what, but they said like you was talking like the category category as freak guitar, my pops as height man one is honest because they categorize him as.

Speaker 3

You're Gonna take That You Feel Me documentary that was.

Speaker 2

As we speak on that You Feel Me.

Speaker 1

We're talking in early days of rappers getting real endorsements commercials. That's being broadcast on real national I'm a young kid, I'm probably six seven years old seeing my uncles and my pops on commercials for Sprite You Feel Me. Now we're talking about which I did the Grand Master Flash Joint. Now, let's pay attention to the commercial chiefs. Come on, we are the fantastic. We got this Sprite now with who

comes on? Breaking the pills down? My pops came on and still my pops speed first and pig Latin and bought it back into some niggas with.

Speaker 3

Crazy legs in the middle of the glass.

Speaker 5

So I probably ain't catch that.

Speaker 4

Feel mad right now.

Speaker 3

That nigga time was doing some ship niggas is doing like like don't even know what he was look I would be for life album.

Speaker 1

The last track on the joint is the Freaky tie outro produced by all p Gutter Butter You Feel Me. That's one of our house producers.

Speaker 3

That's my mentor.

Speaker 1

I feel when I started doing like he took me in at like like like I was a son of his and he was a producer for the family.

Speaker 2

You feel me.

Speaker 1

Fast forward like put it back into the perspective of the freaky tie outro okay me freaky time when a month to may bet to show these yet no doubt comes to weed back to the house.

Speaker 3

Told my niggas to get the hell out, about to get busy, get no doubt.

Speaker 1

When it after he thought the get real freaky for my getting mout talking.

Speaker 2

About talking about that's the.

Speaker 3

Right now. Listen to the beat. It's one of those drill type beats. That's back then. You feel me.

Speaker 1

So when I was like I was talking to one of your means before we got on, I'm like, yo, the the energy and the ship. Like even though the new generation may not like understand lost boy history, you feel me, it's always going to be embedded in history.

Speaker 3

Look at the DJ Catlet, DJ Calid.

Speaker 2

And Lotto Record.

Speaker 1

They did the Lights camera Action joint over for Lotto New Record. That's the single that they pushed. That's the Lights, that's Light's kim Action. Shout out big though, that's Big Time Records. You got Floyd Mayweather running doing now to lost boys lifestyles are the Richard Seamans this you feel me in this early even mean his igs. I pay attention, so it's always embedded in the coach.

Speaker 2

Look at the Migos, Look at the Migos.

Speaker 1

They just started telling about how the Migos is the biggest rap.

Speaker 3

Group of ours and my generation I did generation.

Speaker 1

Now look at we just sat here spoken about a couple hours of the lineage of what the lowest boys brought to the table, Africa, Europe, Asia taking over ship.

Speaker 3

The difference is they didn't have the same.

Speaker 1

Digital They didn't they planted the seed for this new era of shit.

Speaker 3

Simon Tainey, like you feel me.

Speaker 1

It's like an unconscious, unconsciously inner ship.

Speaker 3

So when Big One, when.

Speaker 1

Lotto and DJ Kalet dropped that record and Lotto go back to her moms, her mom's just like yo, I used to be in Miami like this, I used to be like this, Like what you know about that?

Speaker 3

Even you feel me?

Speaker 1

So when these records is re resurfacing and coming into the into the new era, even with look at all, Look how all the new the new artists is just doing. Even your record, Your record came back bigger than ever.

Speaker 2

Oh yeah, was creative.

Speaker 3

Get that young.

Speaker 1

You feel that as a younger, as a student of the hip hop culture. You feel me as a as a legacy of the hip hop culture.

Speaker 2

I'm paying attention. I look at things a little bit different.

Speaker 1

You feel me so when I see it come back, like like I said, even down to my mental like I said, the last the last record of the outro, he I'm like, yo, you don't even know what the hell you're doing, because like that's around it. When I started like paying getting into music, that's when like lex Luga and was making be so the bat Cadences started speeding up and getting the Chief Keith and the drill started.

Speaker 3

Coming in film me. It's starting you feel me so.

Speaker 2

It's not influence, you feel me so.

Speaker 1

But I'm listening, like, but as they speeding it up, they're going and you got the the European influence, and all these people are freaking looking because all these people I got some fun to though, these some good joints Joe for my man's But like I was saying, though long story shows like the influence that hip hop have, even like I said, even down to the drill music.

When you go to Europe, they appreciate our music so much more that they that they they take the time to create to try to recreate our culture over there, you feel me. So when we do go over there and we hear something in this and it's fresh to us, it's like, yo, it's fresh to y'all. But we're doing this for y'all. We're doing this because of y'all.

Speaker 2

You feel me.

Speaker 3

We're making this new ship because of y'all.

Speaker 2

Look at r I P. Pops move.

Speaker 3

Yes, you feel me.

Speaker 1

He went to Europe and got that drill sound, you feel me.

Speaker 3

He got he got it. He got a German engineer like his sound.

Speaker 1

That those those drill beats that you're hearing, that that you was hearing him on, and that you hear these New York drill rappers on. They was coming from across seas that they was finding on YouTube, you feel me.

Speaker 3

They finding these YouTube producers.

Speaker 1

And ship like that and bring and they getting lit these songs. Is generating the sound, you feel me. That's why New York drill and Chicago drill do not sound the same, you feel me.

Speaker 2

But that's neither hell.

Speaker 3

All day, you feel me to bring it back here.

Speaker 1

I say it's oh, it comes from a seed that was playing from a culture that not only us as the Lost Boy.

Speaker 3

Family that y'all.

Speaker 2

You feel me.

Speaker 1

Let me give y'all, y'all flowers from you know, I always do it, but this.

Speaker 3

Is you feel me.

Speaker 1

But even you know, like nigga, like niggas like us, y'all plant a certain energy and hip hop that can never go away. Because even the sound of music that y'all was making, y'all was taking the old samples from what y'all was listening to, y'all mama's living room. You feel me what they was playing on Sunday morning they was cleaning up to in the crib they was.

Speaker 2

Driving to the car.

Speaker 3

I was taking those signs.

Speaker 2

So what you think what you think we was out?

Speaker 3

Yeah, we're doing.

Speaker 2

I do the purple.

Speaker 16

Enjoy.

Speaker 3

Let me.

Speaker 5

Let me say, let me want to say.

Speaker 3

I want to say.

Speaker 4

I want you to tell me the first thing that comes to your mind, legal drug money, pretty low, pretty loot.

Speaker 3

I'm going to say that.

Speaker 2

Pretty low.

Speaker 5

Why both of that?

Speaker 3

Tell me? Why pretty low is the mind behind that?

Speaker 2

Yeah?

Speaker 3

Pretty little? Y'all see pretty low on stage or something like that. If y'all seen him stage, he don't be doing much. He might get a mic and you sit on their speaker. Pretty was like the smartest of us. Yeah, this is the break. He is the smartest of.

Speaker 16

All that.

Speaker 3

He got a shoulder night. But listen, pretty Low comes up with the mindset of albums and ship like that. He might hear all the stuff and we don't know what the hell like, we don't know what the hell we're taking the album, Nigga said.

Speaker 6

We're sitting around Bailey Pond tell him smoking weed and ship talking about like yo yo, I want to be a drug dealer, but I don't really want to sell a little drugs.

Speaker 3

I want to call and all that ship.

Speaker 6

We gotta do it the way we do it right. Let's make some legal drug money. Music is drugs, you know what I mean. You can make some money from that ship and then you know what I mean, That's what it was. So that's how Little came came through with that worried my mother. We was over there smoking weed on that you know what.

Speaker 3

I'm saying, come through.

Speaker 6

In the studio, big yeah, but came over with that name, Druy.

Speaker 3

That name came from him, and it was just fruition because this is what he's seen as we seen. This is our life, this is what we're seeing. We're giving y'all a picture of what we said. We giveing y'all al movie. You know what, money making some music and ship. Sick of doing what was doing. Yeah, we to get out of that, get it out of that lifestyle, the hood, even though we still hoard niggas. We get out of the hood. But we're showing y'all the hood. So the

people that don't know about the hood. You know how you do it?

Speaker 6

Show people that queens ain't the only place you could get money at. You go out of town to get money.

Speaker 3

You can go.

Speaker 2

As a group though, going into the system, getting a late you know, deal, record deal. How did you guys divide everything because that's what usually breaks up groups.

Speaker 6

Yeah, well divide them was well I could I could say what it was right our label.

Speaker 3

We signed the contract. It was just me and Freaky try to sign the contract. You know what I'm saying, Because that's what they wanted. They didn't even want the whole group, you know what I'm saying him and only.

Speaker 6

No, they ain't really want they listen the nineties, and they was like, Nigga, what is these niggas doing that?

Speaker 3

Y'all? Like Nigga's you see the vision. Yeah, so that's how they they they put I mean, we were young, so.

Speaker 2

That was officially on contract, y'all.

Speaker 3

Cheeks and me and Lou didn't get decided. They're just the niggas didn't know the d J is a part of this whole, right, you know what I'm saying, because they already I ain't. No, they didn't. They didn't get it.

Speaker 2

Man, Like he said, are trying to divide and conquer anyway.

Speaker 3

That's what they've been doing. Like I said, you know man, right, it was we came from uptown. They did they then because from from uptown, whole bunch of wow. No, but bang, they wasn't like your kid. The way the game was was like, right, it's like your kid. You want to be mister Cheeks. We want to be the little boys and ship like that. That's how they approached me with came here. I was au out there running around doing all that. And this is before this was before uptown,

way before the town. This is like this is I don't even understand. This is Yeah, We was here a real long time. Like I said, it took ten years for the song to come on that we were here. It took four, four or five extra years, and we actually came out with the ship bad Boy. Yeah, we would have been the first artist a bad Boy. I'm in the living room, were in the living room like this Jersey Galaxy town. We got the I mean George shot George front door Galaxy, Jersey. I've seen George era.

Speaker 5

The building going to the Germans. See the movie there as sooner.

Speaker 3

Your you're wilding out. That's what George was with me. George was with me, George with George with me, even though that was a lawyer in doctors building. George was with me and remembered us being Galaxy. Like I said, bad Boy would have started basically in the Galaxy Tower. Wow, Cheeks had her motherfucking Jooryte. They wanted Cheeks to be mister Cheeks. They wanted Cheeks to be the Lost Boys by itself, not but it would have been. It would have been me and Cheese without the cheeks. Said no,

it would have been mister Cheeks. They had shirts and everything got about. The Lost Boys got a book of rhymes. That tickets and the buck. We've been going through so much all our lives.

Speaker 6

We've been going through the ship or what we all nigga don't gonna be missus and the lost Nigga l O S c B.

Speaker 3

He refused that, yeah, all been that situation roughly one person. He couldn't do a group. But it turned out she said, nah, I got a crew. That's a fact.

Speaker 5

So you're saying that.

Speaker 4

Because before when this is when bad Boys started, he was saying there was a possibility that Cheeks could have been the.

Speaker 5

First, not Craig mac not.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it would have been. It might have been boy he would have been was the first bad boys.

Speaker 3

Me and Cheks would have been bad boys without lowing tie, no disrespect. But Cheeks was like, nah, I got a crew. I remember the conversations vividly. I remember a bunch of conversations vividly. That's why I say we were here for a while. It was just that he said, nah, and I just to clear up some of the stuff that he said before when it was with Russell and them, Depth Jam Depth Jam had a roster, Foxy d m X, all these other cats. My man, we ready, we got

we ready to go. We ain't no waight nikold be the hottest singing queens regardless of record deal.

Speaker 1

Just one second ahead before they got signed, they mixtaped the Red Tables.

Speaker 3

I'm a lost boy.

Speaker 1

His story in Now I Got Straight Fast story, that's a seed you feel Me long story showed they had the red tape, the red tape.

Speaker 3

I want to say, correct me if I'm wrong.

Speaker 1

About eighty eighty five percent of the red tape was legal drug money. And the other cuts that didn't make the legal drug money, they either showed up on TV shows, different movies, or other ship. Correct me if I'm if I'm if I'm wrong, You're on the right path.

Speaker 9

Yard.

Speaker 3

That's so.

Speaker 1

That's all I wanted to say. You can get back to this story. But it was the mixtape, the red tape full with legal drug money, like like the B side cuts like keep it Real. It's like Renee, the the original Renee, like all that ship was on the red tape party party Joint and you feel you see the party in bullsh I could see the correlation the party joint the party in bullshit like they that was the era of the anthems.

Speaker 2

You feel Me.

Speaker 3

So I was so I'm injection we always had when we were your going to Sunrise, y'all don't understand what y'all understand. When we started off going from the block parties, from the from the basement parties, the block parties and all that moving up here, when we started going to different backyard parties, when people thought, oh, lost boys here, is it gonna be a fight and we don't have a good time. When the young guns came, oh it's

going to be a shootout, it's gonna be something. It's gonna be a fight, it's gonna be somebody ain't going home type ship. We bring the parties and make the motherfuckers go. Yeah, wherever they go, we're going. I don't give it's the movie theaters, did ja make aba? Whatever? The more we brought, the more happiness we brought the people. Even though, yeah, beat the dirt. We're young. We did dirt. But when we came to a party, when we had the battle motherfuckers, we true elements of the hip hop.

Are you talking about dancing? We get on the mic rock the party we had Onyx, we had fred Ro Fred was that's our little brother was in the place you had Kwame Fammi and Kwame had a dancing crew. He had always go to the studio fifty four to go to the Studio fifty four dance and the whole ship come back to the hood party rock the mic dance battle Niggas Karami had. Like I said, Kwame had a ship. He had a gay dude. Nigga was like that, and we had the battle girls and a guy and

everybody doing the ship. We getting our little dances from the Puerto Ricans were getting out with ship, getting together, and we started doing our own. When the bus stop started coming out, we started doing our own little bus stop. We had clubs doing the lost boy bust stop, Wendy Williams the Lost But when he brought her to her his wedding, the bus stop in the fucking world. Hamilton sung at my wedding. That was crazy. When we came with him, came the movement came with it when we came,

and it came with us. Any aspects, I don't care. Like I said, we went to Japan, it was love. It was a million monthfucking lost boys. Any state, any country we went to, it was a million lost boys. That's what confuses me. Like I said, I don't want to go back.

Speaker 16

But.

Speaker 3

Soul trained what's his name, Donne don soul trained Chinese dude to the black du on God. He wrote that that that that bullet to the motherfucking soul train joint. He got a soul trained radio station. Niggas was getting it in. They was getting it in. Man. I'm telling you when I say Green came and the motherfuckers was following. Niggas was everywhere we went. We wouldn't believe that we had that many followers was followers, but we had that many lbs around the guy. I still got the LB.

Speaker 4

So I'm gonna ask on another because that was one question. Last question was legal drug money, So that my next question is love, peace and nappiness.

Speaker 2

That's my favorite video.

Speaker 3

Great record appreciated CLASSI, dope record, dope record. Damn what is that? Just growing out hands? I remember when you were talking about Yo, man, I like that slick Rick joint. Fact he was in the studio.

Speaker 6

Hell yeah, I was trying to tell one of the greatest storiesteller slick together.

Speaker 3

I was trying to tell my cousin rest in peace. Whatever one three one production, Let's do this. This just joy shout out because Cheeks like that song that because he heard it sex Rest peace, miss Sex jumping on it before I got a chance to. And we did the video in Altra Rios, and I'm talking about when when I got off the plane, these niggas left me. They went to the bus and ship.

Speaker 2

That's my favorite.

Speaker 1

Yeah, but the video he was having the time of his life making joints was on him like hell.

Speaker 3

Yah, he mean listen, jellow like we were roommates. So what he singing, We was like this, Cheeks and Lewis together, me and Towers together. That's like we bonded more. They bonded more, you know what I'm saying. That's our my roommate. Queen's niggas is in the Man the beautiful.

Speaker 6

You look at the look already anyway you live out here, but you can look through the water nigga and look at fish nigga floating.

Speaker 3

What the fuck? Queens? Then what looks crazy? You know what I mean? They got on the plane and went to the bush. I'm flagging. I'm trying to see what's going on. Almost got getting off the motherfucker bus. Dude came to me and said, you want about this lone. I'm like, he talking shame where you're looking right now. I was looking at him like like, what the fuck is what the what the fuck you want about this long? I'm like, I don't know what the fuck he talking about?

Talking about this slung so he said, you smoke weed? I said yeah. He said, you want to bud this long? I said, oh Ship, weird hearing him and boys in the vands, like the Jamaicans have that little small minivand the door slide open and ship like that. His guys is like this. I said, oh Ship, yeah, one of the schoo do bands.

Speaker 2

So I was like, oh Ship.

Speaker 3

I said how much? He said twenty dollars. I said, hold on, get it to these niggas. Yoe, this nigga's talking about a but a but song. He was like, what the fuck are talking about it? I said, making dude, just not ask me. Niggas like, man, we got weed. They got a box Dutch.

Speaker 5

Master you know, tell me it's from Princess Black.

Speaker 3

I don't know. We could have been remember you don't turn. I went. Niggas had a Dutch Master box. They said we got enough. We to get us and this and that and third man. I went back to the dude said, nah, they don't want I should have got it.

Speaker 5

I don't know what the fuck of blood for twenty dollars, we.

Speaker 3

Was getting you hot. So I was like, no, they want to do it, man, I should have just got it. Got it halfway through the trip and smoked about half the you know the blunts come in the box. Were just smoked half the blunts. It was like, damn, we need some more. We were done there, just.

Speaker 5

Okay okay, asked she was crazy.

Speaker 4

Now that I'm saying, listen, man, the question was love piece and happiness. You have the flag on that I can't write. But the Snoop made the album like that years later? Are you saying that he's madlying?

Speaker 3

Man? No, that man Snoop?

Speaker 1

Like, are y'all saying that did we say anything? We ain't say nothing. That's the first time I heard you talk.

Speaker 3

We didn't say hell you say, y'all say, I didn't say, y'all say. He's saying.

Speaker 4

We broke What y'all saying it is like, did y'all make that whole album? Because my question was love piece and happiness, happy Lappiness?

Speaker 3

You not your head? Are you saying made that whole album in Jamaica.

Speaker 5

You made a couple of.

Speaker 3

To do that song? Like that song? He like that? That that that music. I like the track. Hey young.

Speaker 2

Who suggested that you go to Jamaica? And I got that in my notes?

Speaker 3

Hold on this year queens hold real drinkers quick right, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 4

I got this in my notes in a minute battle of plastic bad symbol, Hey young.

Speaker 3

World, Yes, diego, diego reculars it is. That's hey, young World, I mean, what working is it?

Speaker 4

Your world?

Speaker 3

The slicker that's that's that's love.

Speaker 2

That's that's the title.

Speaker 3

That's love pieces.

Speaker 4

That's the IM sitting there asking you about a question that I already asked.

Speaker 3

Yeah, we did that, and we did that, the falls and all that stuff. We learned how to smoke weed through an apple, fucking carrot carrot. Dann Flossy rest in Peace said that right. Yeah, it was our homeboy. It was homie not.

Speaker 18

You went to bar Yeah, yeah, because they got the mall. There's the losties to.

Speaker 3

A went too.

Speaker 6

Barre, were living, I don't Avenue and one thirteenth Street. You go there, ordered that ship, Celastia, open the door, give you a week you've never been in dark and the.

Speaker 3

Doll in the clavering called themself times get out that by yes, last, I worried, let's be clear last. Yeah, No, one can't funk with mister jeekes sound effects.

Speaker 19

You know, lord, do you understand anything I said? Thought? Left right there and go over there to.

Speaker 3

The yeah clastie. I worried, that's our brother. Yes, sure, and Mojo and Mojo Ojo locked up with me. Oh yo, you know what? Locked up with this nigga? Everybody, what's his name? Jason or you saying rule John? That's my man. John came to the town. To the town. John came to the joint, you know for Queens.

Speaker 4

We know, see the thing about the joint because he made that's.

Speaker 3

All federal gut. We like two hours away from Canada. But John came through. He came from the state. He came up there. I hit him with the kitty. You know what I'm saying. No bag, that's like you get some food, beakers, sweats and stuff like that to face, you know, your daily things and bag of wet. Understand, it's like a bag you give me exactly exactly right. So I hit him with the joint because you know, I was like, you know, I'm me on joint. I ain't gonna front. I was a plumber. I get around

that job right there. Got me around around. That's it. Got me everything now. But yeah, John came through hit him with the kiddy ship like that, walked track a couple of times. You know picture. We did a lot of ship. You know what I'm saying. We did a couple of things about it. Due to the time that he was there, you know what I'm saying. You know, Niggas was bout that's my man. But Niggas about to get him because he was actually staying at He was

supposed to have been next to us, like we're mohawks. A, he's mohawk b. But they had him in the wardens off. They had him in the camp and they was at uh. He was working for the warden watering flowers and ship like that. I was telling him, I said this, you said, I got you. But he was there. He did his little one too. The ship even though the homies Upstate and s Rochester and ship got Niggas is funny, man.

I don't know so much man, but the man they had them on some funny ass missions, and I ain't like that ship. I had to. I pulled them up and ship one time I caught his asked like, yo, you can't have tomatoes and the next question. You know what I'm saying. I feel like it's a thing in jail that you can get locked up. Even though you locked up, you can get locked up, saying to show and ship like that. Don't have a nigga and the dummy miss.

Speaker 2

Some what y'alla spaghetti?

Speaker 3

The fuck y'all doing? You can't have the homie, my homie, y'all can't have me bringing a legal ship across the compound. Come one, locked up, Let's go to the next question. Kid. But that's why I was. I be telling I love niggas a real ship, you know, for real what I live. He will talk you under the table, but he was not. I didn't. I mean, I'm gonna tell you, you know

what I'm saying. I'm gonna tell you the real ship that niggas that being locked up going through And I'm me I was never geographical, meaning I wasn't saying I'm just strictly New York. I traveled the world, so I've been in Boston, I've been in North Carolina, North Carolina, down South, Midwest, such and such.

Speaker 4

Good.

Speaker 3

So cats couldn't put me in a particular bowl. You know what I'm saying, because I ain't gonna say a cup or something smaller. Because the federal system is huge. You're talking about the world. You're talking about not the world, but you're talking about Ukraine, right, Yeah, And we actually get along with any and everybody. I became the last part of my bed in ray Brook the number one guy due to the fact that I was a plumber. I can move around, I can talk to people. When

rest in peace team passing he left to jail. I became the number one guy, and not just the number one guy for New York the Pound. Now you trying to control thirteen fourteen hundred people. You got the responsibility the Mexicans and the Blacks is fighting and stuff like that. Different people DC, Philly, you got different states and like that that don't get along and when they fight, locks down the whole compound. Now niggas is misery for extra

thirteen fourteen, fifteen, sixty two weeks or whatever such and such. Wow, Now you gotta be the man that controls all that. Some people that ain't out in encircle in that cipher. Don't know that well. So when dudes bring problems to you, you gotta go fix him. That's the number one. In fact, I became the number one after my man came not just because he left New York open, it wasn't open. I was next in charge because I was there for

eleven years. In ray book, at that time, I was a person that deal with the Mexicans because my tattooist was a Mexican. He was leaving to yes, most of my shits he was. He was a let ahead Mexican, and he was telling the next Mexican that came in charge, what you're gonna uh uh, this is who it is. He's introducing me. So now it's like you're telling him that that he's asking me who you who you representing New York or New York, I mean New York or or the Blacks. I had to had the choice. I

was like, Philly be wilder. They be chilling by be telling if everybody knew Philadelphia is Telladelpha. But I got homeies ship all over the place, and everybody ain't ain't that type of time. Everybody ain't telling in Philly and it's that the third. But then the d C d C be you got funny ways and stuff like that. But I got homies in DC's I got good Moores. That's in DC's good homies, youngins. So when it comes down to that, you gotta make the decision. I just said, man,

I'm New York. Yeah, fucked that. But it came down to the fact that now I'm a plumber, the head plumber. I'm the commission of the football, the baseball. I had, uh, the grand cheek of the moors. I had a bunch of hats. So now due to the fact that my awareness of who I am and how I want to perceive life changes, the fact of what I was when I came in. Yeah, I was in the streets. I did this, that, and the third Boom, I'm here. So

now I changed up all my ways. Now when there's facts and all this shit comes to me, Now I gotta do that for New York. Now I got New York, not not New York, but just black folks different states clashing. I gotta break these things up. Not just these guys. Is telling me, I got CEOs. Tell me yo, something going on in Niagara b something going on in genesee A. You better go see what's up. I got designated to

be the dude that's in charge of the Blacks. Then it came to a charge of the Mexicans saying, Yo, the Blacks stole my my fiend book theme books is porn books and ship like that. Oh shit important and life threatening. They caught me one time at the show. They caught me the black heap Hu you have not sh I got locked up for the ship, even though it was a war going on without me. I said I could have give you enoughing motherfuckers and books and s all the books and that it was you make money,

I could rent them. So basically one thing led to another, not just the Blacks. I became the head of the pound. Now if the CEO's had beef or they had some ship, now they came to me. It was just given to me, not that I asked for the ship like that. It was like, you know, you've been here so long. You know the youngins, you know the oldest, you know the white dudes, the head of those the Ariyans. You knew the nigga got mafia brothers. I knew, I knew I knew.

I knew arians heads even though they couldn't get along. But you have to. Ray Brook is a high security joint maximum. That's like number one of in high security. So I'm not just saying from the little man to the big man. They come to me because I'm a problem solver. And Niggas was like, Yo, do this? Can you can you? Can you do this? Can you talk to them? Can you talk to them? I squashed so many situations that when Niggas used to come out with knives and ship like that to the past. I'm talking

about knives from the kitchen. Yeah, two cats could come outside and you have a party at this table, that that table with that table that now everybody could come outside without no problems. You know what I'm saying. From a wild situation too. Man were chilling, were chilling. The CEOs didn't really like that, I know them. Head CEO was like, I see what you're doing. I was like, I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know what you do. They called my name, they used to

call me mister Blackwell. I know that now they listen. When the staff, the head staff left, they was calling me speak nice over the loud speaker to come to the booth. Then when they come to the booth or something like that, they tell me, Yo, such and such as having a problem over here and there, Joe, such and such as this that, or homie, a little homie comes with her he got in there. I don't know how to get rid of it. Niggas be scared. How

to I get rid of this this and that? And third, I take it and give it away by you know what I'm saying, Not give it away, but disposed of the ship because you don't want you the lesser nois the less vialance. Not all the time, but a lot of times. So I diffuse a lot of situations and stuff like that until I got my ankle broken. The motherfucker said, we don't need you no more and kick

me off the compound because you got your broken. The administration, I've slipped on some slipped on some black ices and the more the world to kd But things happen, no doubt, and they didn't want You can see the system launts. Yeah they weren't that ship.

Speaker 1

But that's the same thing with the with like the music industry now, like she said earlier, like it's so much ill ship and so much dope talent that's around us. You feel me, but we get it gets overshadowed by the negative ship. Who got ops? Who got beef? Who getting killed?

Speaker 2

And you feel me?

Speaker 1

That's all we see when we when we turn on to you feel me. Our media systems, you feel me, whether it's social media news, it's so.

Speaker 2

Much negative ship.

Speaker 12

You feel me.

Speaker 1

And the ship about the lost boys like and and in South Jamaica queens, they so embedded, like they so embedded because of the way we operate as a as a as a family, as a unit.

Speaker 3

You feel me.

Speaker 1

So for him to go through what he going what he went through, you feel me, and the overcoming and be able to control situations and be able to mentally be through that ship. You feel me not only as a blessing. You feel me as a testimony that if we organize, you feel me, and that's the lost that's one ship that lost boys like you feel me?

Speaker 3

That was that was our word.

Speaker 1

Florize that not doing what you're doing and find the nearest lost boy and Tally, I feel me.

Speaker 3

So what's your teaching that he knew?

Speaker 1

But like I said, I'm a historian. Bro, this ship is not it is not all mean.

Speaker 3

That was our war and everything that was our war call, and that was our motherfucking chill a funk out since the eighties. You feel me.

Speaker 1

So when you when you waszed, especially us as blacks, as us as Latinos, when we organized and we come together and we build structure amongst us was going to the world already built against us.

Speaker 2

You feel me.

Speaker 3

The odds is already called though.

Speaker 2

You feel me.

Speaker 1

So when we organized and we come together, we can build structure and they feel like they got to come to us because they already know the power that we got when we all when we organized, when and if we organized.

Speaker 3

And anything about that. The funny thing that not to cut you, but to add on to what you're saying. When we was doing what we was doing and organized came to a factless and I had a wow, Apple computer like in my mom's and them not me, but mom my parents had an Apple computer. Remember that. When we had that chat. If you ain't a lost boy, you better go home. We had that ship and this is like when Apple really first came out. The ship was that shit took my like four or five hours

for that banner for a banner. If you ain't a lost boy, you gotta go home to cross Bowl, Cross Cross Cup whatever that ship skulls and ship like that. We've been saying ship to organize people. You know what I'm saying, because like we was doing it, when we was doing it, when me and Cheeks was doing with the Black Man. If you heard them songs, man, you'd be like, yo, then niggas got something. This is since the eighties, I mean John Adams taught us a life

of really sticking together. We went through Howard Beach, beefs and all that ship. I don't know if the world knew about that, shif you check on the instant Howard Beach. We was in the mix of that because that was our school that these people came from. And we was always on some putting people together, even though it was a black and a black or a black thing and a white thing, and our school was in the middle

of the black and the white section. John Adams is a historical school basically, but everything that came out of here was rapper. You got horse, a horse horse. While when he started working with Heather b and ship like that, showing all that ship listen, Onyx, listen. I remember Dyes, I remember dsk to this to the boulevard and came up with Onyx. They we were calling niggas the country boys. They don't understand who they were before. If they be

ballhead there them niggas had carpet in the hair. Those our brothers, brothers. When I say my basement was someplace that everybody knew where it was, you started in my basement, we practicing dancing as I'm playing music, We practicing dance moves so we could go to the studios fifty four, or go to the motherfucking the next club by ways, or or what's the ship on across the library, mister Rees and all that ship, niggas garage, all that ship.

When we was doing our dances, practicing, Onyx was over here in the next corner. Over here. My basement was kind of big, you know, but they was over here. We was over here practicing this and that a third but we all know we had to go against the other crews and this, that and the third. But what the time, like I said, qualms ship I wanted to mess with for the Karme girls. Lake, the tall hick from Hillcrest whole bro I made that wife. But basically,

but like I'm saying, we went through a lot. We did a lot, We've seen a lot, and we made a lot happen. After the fact that we watched everybody doing what they was doing. We made it extra. It's crazy we brought that into us, but we made that extra. So motherfuckers is like I feel everything. Motherfuckers is saying. You couldn't deny what we're doing. Everything you did, even if you dance the New Dance Steps, when the volgul and Order, the Jamaican Dances. We was in every fucking

thing big nice. We had clubs and everything anything that could be done. We've done it since we were teenagers. Dan since the eighties, we've done everything in rap since it was since since Hawaiian suits. That's for reading Jones Beach. Jones. You already know about Jones Beach because I was tagging on the train. So it was like one aspects, one aspect of hip hop that we didn't conquer, you know.

Speaker 1

What I'm saying, And that's why on some real like and to pay you back off what we're saying, like every element of even.

Speaker 2

Like the Lost Boys story, it's a reflection of.

Speaker 1

The good, the bad, and the ugly of what hip hop everything. You feel me think about it, like even like you got artists, like he said, it was tens of grind before y'all even got introduced to the lost boys that y'all fell in love with, You feel me. So to know them is to know that there's some real street dudes. They just as hood as anybody that

you know. They get in loved from the gangster's r P. Black just you feel me, We got real, real, real rights is really acknowledging them from the street aspect of what hip hop is and what it takes to get into the game.

Speaker 2

You feel me.

Speaker 3

They get into the game.

Speaker 1

The first album, they got about four or five singles that slap like you said, we got videos for and when it was a two, when it was a two video game, you feel me. We going to the tragedy story like even down the freak Guitar all Pops, You feel me. This is a story for y'all era Like you said, you felt that when Freaky Time my Pops passed away.

Speaker 3

You feel me.

Speaker 1

Now we fast forward into we got the Nipseyes, we got the Tagos.

Speaker 3

You feel me.

Speaker 1

So, but in y'all era, it wasn't broadcast y'all going back to y'all like they broadcast when you go back to your hood and something bad happened to you, feel me, they're not broadcasting when you go back to your hood. Is a little shorty that you that you're inspiring to be better, that you endorsing to be better. The basketball, the basketball nigga that you're telling, YO, go to school, stay out the street. The next rapper that you're saying, yo, go in the studio. Yo, here go a couple of

dollars to go get in the booth. My pops, My pops and one three in South Jamaica queens from fall Rock.

Speaker 3

I was born in fall Rockaway. You feel me. My mom's just from far Rock.

Speaker 1

My pops is a south side nigga.

Speaker 3

One through for God.

Speaker 1

They effect from in South Jamaica, Queens. It wasn't just yo, they stars. The people was able to touch. You know how many people? You know, I can't get my bills paid today, and it's like, fuck.

Speaker 3

It, your bills is.

Speaker 1

It's five hundred dollars. You need five hundred dollars to get this taken care of? All right, take that and I'm gonna go do what the fuck I'm doing. Show showt you need some school, you need some ship, some supplies for school. You show they need some your racing. They had the vision for the for the Lost Boy Attired. The brand was already there.

Speaker 3

You feel me.

Speaker 1

But when the tragedy strike, you affect more than just.

Speaker 2

The person that you took away. You feel me.

Speaker 1

You take away from their family, you take away from their kids, You take away from the.

Speaker 2

Impact that they really have in the environment.

Speaker 1

Shout out to the inspiration because a lot of the like cats from my era, the seeds that came up from under.

Speaker 3

Them three four year olds, you feel.

Speaker 1

Me, the one three fours, the Rockaway and fucking Linden, the the Van Wick, you feel me, the the Fall Rocks, the Jamaica ass the kids that came up in that era, the holliest, the queens, and even across the world. You feel me because queens took it across the world. But those those seeds that they planted, remember, didn't put queens on the mad.

Speaker 3

You feel me.

Speaker 1

But I just want to say this though, say this, though those seeds, the next generation that they put back in, they put in they put in, they actually put in you feel me. A lot of niggas get lit and don't put in you feel me. They put in before they got lit. And that's what the lost boy, that's why it's lb finn. If you fail just once you once you see us do this, once you see us do this, and you locked in, you finl.

Speaker 3

I could go here, I could go there.

Speaker 1

I got somebody that's gonna be like, I need to I need a flight from there.

Speaker 2

I'm at the airport.

Speaker 1

I'm at the airport over here in Texas. Somebody coming to pick me up. They're gonna take me to get some food. We're gonna check me in the right. So once it's l But they planted that seed.

Speaker 5

They got one of the flyers handshakes.

Speaker 3

I mean, I see it. I see I see it around. I see it around the world. I see it.

Speaker 2

That's the game now, I see it.

Speaker 3

Let me those games, I see it everywhere.

Speaker 2

Let me get to my.

Speaker 1

My major point is because Yo, when now you got I got I got through that.

Speaker 3

That's just that's it lost life. That is when when Nipsey died. You feel me?

Speaker 2

When when we lost Nipsey, Like I literally like that shit hurt me. You feel me.

Speaker 1

Because those type of situations always bring me back to this situation. You feel me because my pops was a nigga that was endorsed niggas. You go to school right, Oh yeah, you're a young hust y'all. Niggas is from an era where niggas was outside at ten eleven years old with packs and they.

Speaker 3

Probably you feel me when I.

Speaker 1

Was outside, when niggas was outside twelve thirteen years old with the ham on them. You feel me right now. These niggas was catching niggas. My pops will go. My pops live on one three four on god Bro. That's why he big it up roll three form. God Bro is a is a fucking elementary school and is a fucking middle school. He catching all the niggas going to school. Oh world, little nigga, you bout you selling drugs? Come here,

give me your package, now go to school. Now, I'm gonna fuck with you, but I fuck with you yo. He he go twenty forty thirty dollars. Go to school, my nigga, because whoever gave you this ship ain't really.

Speaker 2

Looking out for you.

Speaker 3

You feel me.

Speaker 1

But if you really want a nigga to look out for you when I see you, nigga, If this is what you want, my nigga, he go Friday when you come through, go nigga, you got a hundred on your test.

Speaker 3

We're gonna go to the ass.

Speaker 1

You go get you in your mans, We're gonna go to We're gonna get whatever y'all want. Sniggas, y'all want car hogs, y'all want to do what we're doing.

Speaker 3

Real niggas. Shot in the dollar. The dollar.

Speaker 5

To get my grandmother house to better.

Speaker 3

Hey, his all black, all white.

Speaker 2

To get into something.

Speaker 1

Basically, consciously, we always we was always up of us, of us, my nigga.

Speaker 3

Consciously, we always uplifted us. You know what I'm saying. But that's why is underniable.

Speaker 1

So when the music, Dude, when when the DJ played the Ship today, it's like, Yo, the ship is refreshing because you can connect. We ain't gotta be on that and everybody going jack to it.

Speaker 2

You feel me. Everybody gonna gravitate to.

Speaker 1

Everybody gonna get up if they see and everybody going dance. Your mom's gonna dance, You're gonna dance, Grandma, Grandma gonna dance. We're gonna have a good time, you feel me. So if you're not listening, because I don't know about you, you're not listening to it. I know your niggas not listening to all the lyrics that's coming out today.

Speaker 3

You're talking about the young niggas.

Speaker 2

Yeah, you feel the new music. You're probably like the beat.

Speaker 1

It's probably whatever whatever catches your attention to you feel me talk that in the same token. Whatever it is that that gravitates you to that, that's that. But when it comes to our music, that error that y'all fucking That's why I.

Speaker 3

Put it in my music. I'm not I come from the same ship you me.

Speaker 1

You know, the same ship my video that probably a little now go ahead on you're talking to my video?

Speaker 3

Did me and my that's that little nigga dance. In fact, that's right there in the middle of the dancing of us around the bottle. That's not a sample neither, right, No, that's bing doll and that's crazy. That just to say everyone not not saying it, but our era of growing seeds, all our seeds is right. You don't see you might see them here and there, you grow to see them

here and there, and this and that. But they don't be if they get into this world, this realm, they don't be promoting that bullshit that just going on nowadays, because we could get into that when they're older. You're talking about thirt yold compared to twenty years.

Speaker 2

Right.

Speaker 3

Our seeds is go to motherfucking produce better seeds. Whoever produced them seeds is going on now? They ain't producing no good seeds. One of those I ain't gonna be hold.

Speaker 1

Is its defference, you feel me. You gotta respect those come before you.

Speaker 2

You feel me.

Speaker 1

If my old g's could pay homage to catch that came before them and called little big bros. And why can I sit back and be humble enough to take in with the old g You feel me? Because people get it confused with the generational guys like Yo, the old g's got it one way, the young niggas got it one way. But Yo, it's a respecting you feel me, because I could learn something.

Speaker 3

He could learn some.

Speaker 2

Ship from me.

Speaker 3

He learned it from me every day, he told me.

Speaker 1

The other day I pulled up on him like, yokayo, you know you you load y'all inspire me y'all keep me on my toes, me and low every day like man, like yo, I'm doing this, I'm doing that.

Speaker 2

Oh yo, how are we gonna plug in and get?

Speaker 3

You feel me?

Speaker 1

So it's like you gotta, like you said, go back to the What do you respect it loyalty or is it respect? I'm loyal to this man because not only they pay the they paid the way for me.

Speaker 2

You feel me.

Speaker 1

They paid a way for me so I could get into anything.

Speaker 3

I don't even have to rap. I could go into A and R and I could be a manager, I could be a producer, I could be whatever.

Speaker 1

I could do whatever I want just off the strength of them opening up doors. You feel me, seed, But in order for me to make shit happen, I gotta be humble and I gotta be respectful to the fact that they are allowing me to.

Speaker 3

Do this ship you feel me.

Speaker 1

And niggas get it confused and niggas thinking he doing it.

Speaker 3

Niggas thinks the money doing. Niggas think it's the money. Niggas thinks.

Speaker 1

That because because look at it now, it's young boys that's disrespecting the old heads and and THEA is being treated like us because they looking at how the young niggas is getting it.

Speaker 2

You feel me? Why can I learn from me?

Speaker 3

Why can I humble myself now?

Speaker 1

Because your niggas been through a lot more ship.

Speaker 2

Already, feel me.

Speaker 1

So whatever a nigga may step into, your niggas got some ship that let me.

Speaker 2

Let me just say one thing I think is important about you guys being here and and showcasing something that isn't showcased enough, is this is real legacy. That's a fact having him here and what you everything you're saying, but who you represent him and and and not just representing your father but being yourself at the same time. Yeah, Lou got cash cash he doing like this is this

is real legacy. But this is something to be proud of, regardless of if people hear about it, or if it's played or it's not like, this is something to be real proud of. This is real legacy. This is something that hopefully Drink Champs could help shine more light on it. But you don't need us because y'all should be proud of it regardless.

Speaker 3

Appreciate that they appreciate you. You know what I'm saying because when we did not know, because we as young, but as we get older, we know better. And that's what this world is kind of lacking. Some of these young cats, they know what to do, but they like, nah, I ain't doing it. Some cats know what to do and they doing it. But everybody's an individual. The times has changed, the people's changed, you know what I'm saying. Mindset has changed. So it's like trying to get yousually

convert to this. Sometimes it takes a while, you know what I'm saying. Not it doesn't, it doesn't take a while, but constantly building with cats and stuffing when you get the chance to see them and build and hug them. Love is love. That's why we always should have loved Love's glove. Get been home about Good year and almost two years. Yeah, nigga building me out of jail. Yeah, that's just funny. Ship. I don't feel him about in jail.

Speaker 2

That's crazy.

Speaker 3

I came home and down him about his jail, thought, bull ship. He came home from nineteen bailed you out of jail. My man.

Speaker 6

My man came home and I said, let's go my show. I got his shouldernay, he.

Speaker 3

Following me, I'm following him. He getting pulled first I got pulled over. He get pulled first. Then they just followed me or just old gp bom. What you doing? God found how they find a warrant? Nigga from two thousand and one, like.

Speaker 2

Looking at this when he first came to my heavy, What the.

Speaker 3

Is going on here? S jazz Joe. Oh my man, you know already. You know. I was like, you can't go, get me get let them go. They I mean, my man just came home getting this. I just came home and I'm cleaning. You be clean. You gotta clear it up. Though, no streak nice.

Speaker 6

They say seventy that nigga think it says ninety. He's talking about Oh they we just said that.

Speaker 3

I'm doing ninety nine. I was doing that. I want ain't a hundred. Oh man, this thing is but nah the best, and we we had to we wouldn't. We're still doing We're still doing our hood ship. I ain't gonna say in a negative way. We're still doing our hood ship. You know what I'm saying. Shout out to my po shot shout out. I ain't doing nothing wrong, but I'm I'm making moves. He gives me the room

to make moves, and he understands. It's just crazy that you can do such such amount of time, such and such amount of time and the government still give me probation. They got this, did this smotherfucking dead? Okay? I didn't, Okay, but I didn't. You still want to give a nigga three years, five years? Ye, get the fuck out of a second. What I do to you ten years? Because that's when it was back then.

Speaker 5

Because right now I feel.

Speaker 3

Like, see the thing is, I got sentenced to thirty seven years, thirty seven years at home? See how they was I had thirty seven They told me, they told me that, man if I don't cooperate, I'm gonna do forty. I don't cooperate, and you're pushing me. But what the fuck is that you're pushing me to do? To cooperate? That's the thing is crazy right now that's going on, and ship you already know what's going on. But if you ain't got strong will and you ain't got the heart,

you're gonna fold. I'm like, hold on, how you figuring me to talk bad about the people that I grew up with to you? Motherfucker? I don't even know you, motherfucker. I supposed to lie for lying on them. For you, I don't know your niggas, and they had a nigga in that situation, and I was like, well, I guess you know what to do. Get to twelve, get to get to people and then and then let's get the

box going. I was raised like that, but due to the fact that I was a rapper, they did my history and everything else and they was like, listen, you're going to give all this up, your rap career and this sna It was a deep, deep prosecutor that was like hip to shit, you're gonna give all this up to go to jail to do forty years. I was like, listen, I ain't do nothing. I don't know what you're talking about. Y'all can't do nothing to me. Showed me to do friends.

Still lock my ass up. You're gonna get Since the thirty they knew I didn't have ship do with shit, but due to the fact that I wouldn't cooperate, they're gonna drop. They're gonna drop a ham on you. And then you went to trial with the boys. Oh you get an extra piece for that, and they pressure cats on doing that ship. So the ship that's going on right now. It's not because I ain't gonna say. I'm

not gonna say niggas are soft niggas. They ain't got the heart, but they put the pressure on you to be on some If you don't do this, if you don't cooperate with us, guess what stacks we stacked up. They got enough money to fight whoever. You got to fight double amount the government were talking about the United States government. If you don't motherfucker cooperate with us, we're coming down on you. There ain't nothing you can do. The judge said, this is a movie. She told us

this in court. This is a movie to you, to me, Me and my co defenders, me star Born and pri y'all don't know Backstreet. But guess what thirty seven years? She said, you're gonna do forty years? She tried to give me thirty seven. I got the lowest. Thirty seven, was the lowest, forty seven, forty nine and a half fifty one. And it's crazy, nigga. The gun laws was like, they ain't doing nothing with the gun laws. I've been doing the Lord Library all the time. We've been fighting

a gun law for twenty years. These are the niggas that I met, white boys and everybody. We've been fighting a gun law for twenty years. They ain't passing no gun laws. You can forget about it. Those are the motherfuckers. It's like, we done gave up. We're gonna do this bit right now. I can send in the person.

Speaker 4

Anybody who's here, born in Florida the Walmart by a gun, said again, said anybody here, it's born in Florida to Walmart and.

Speaker 3

By a gun, by a gun. But that's how it was before. That was how it was before they got I understand what you're saying. Yes, and they've been doing that. You go, n all right, they letting. Motherfucker they fighting. I wish Biden would say, we can't do this. They laughing at him. We make more money than you. So that gun lost ship is like really crazy. But do to no disrespect, like I said, Trump Trump Obama and said, fuck that, whatever, no disrespect, whatever the nigga ain't doing,

I'm gonna do it. I'm a trumpet him. He let motherfuckers go. He met more motherfuckers gold than Trump, I mean than Obama. He let a lot of ship go. And it's a cycle. It's just like Yo, we got this, we're gonna do this, and he was on his own type times. I'm just I'm just we ain't claiming the read we got that part right, black mother? How the you can say I wish Trump was back like I wouldn't. No, I wouldn't think. My only thing nobody was him back

because nobody wants Trump sucked up. I ain't gonna funk in jail, in jail, he fucked up. He fucked up a lot of ship. He battled a lot of ship. But he was just trying to that somebody. Everybody got rich.

Speaker 4

I don't know about rich about rich, but they got people view loans Like I said, he did ship that a lot of people that people.

Speaker 3

Better bun the better. A bunch of niggas that have roles that did not and shouldn't have. Like I said, I had bunkies that was like yo, that they came to my crib and tried to take this and take that and take this and take that. I said, you had all that.

Speaker 4

I'm not, but Trump had a lot of my broke friends not broke right.

Speaker 3

That was an arrow. I'm gonna just say that was an error, but should have broke friends, and they broke friends during the Trump After they get that money, they're not gonna want to work for it anymore.

Speaker 2

I'm saying that right there.

Speaker 3

Made kind of made motherfuckers right now. Two three years later, I was supposed to get out of chair, get out of jail. Man is lazy Corona cad niggas like, Yo, let need that check, Yo, get down on your cheek, young gun. Motherfucker's was like, now Trump battles niggas ain't getting then, ohish whose bags? So I shut up? They gotta play PlayStation two. If just a little excuse me, PlayStation anybody wants it. You gotta fight right.

Speaker 2

I want to make sure we're not cutting into your I know you gotta flight to catch make sure your fellow mister chi.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 5

They want to shout instagrams real quick.

Speaker 3

Yeah yeah, missus cheeks. Uh forget the blue check, buddy, miss TV baby.

Speaker 2

They saturated that blue check. They're doing the blue check.

Speaker 4

They find out my friends my friend Sonny hit me, was like, Michael Jordan's just hit me.

Speaker 2

Michael Jordan's this nigga got to follow up. Yeah, that ship that you could buy a blue jack. I have somebody hit me up like anybody.

Speaker 1

No nigga hit me up and said you, I submitted my information for the blue check.

Speaker 2

I hope that they hope that they accept me. I said, bro, this ship is fifteen dollars.

Speaker 3

For accept you. Hey, to play yourself for the bag every time. But that's what it is. That's a society mean were living in and real verified niggas real.

Speaker 4

Man.

Speaker 3

I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 5

I feel like anything else you want to say before we wrap it up.

Speaker 3

Hey, yo, man, shout outs to the world. Man, shout outs for the world. That's the first choice.

Speaker 6

Damn.

Speaker 3

But we came a long way. Speak nice o G speak nice ob fan. Yes, sir, I g that's my g. I got a few things that's going on. Hold on, let me get she's got some ship going on.

Speaker 6

Hey man, we got some ship going Hello. I want to give I gotta do this right now, the ring show, the ring else for like, oh June seven, I shall see you there, buddy. Shout out to Charlie Mac, shout out to Philly, shout out to DJ Jeff, and shout out to Dougie.

Speaker 3

Fresh from putting on that fifty Yeah Anniversaron Philly, Lantic City last night you did that mag showing back. This is my big brother.

Speaker 6

Tuggie fresh Yo, d J J Jeff. Let me let me raise it hello, flat, Let me raise a flat right there.

Speaker 3

I mean, we got a lot of we we gotta we got a lot of ship that we want to do.

Speaker 2

We not that we want to do that.

Speaker 3

We're going to do everything that we want to do. We've been prolonging and now it's time. Basically, yes, hopefully your platform give us all the hope. Just raising on the drink. Okay o school, listen continues man school, I'm here. Nice, we get that together. You know what I'm saying. We got a lot of ship that we're doing. We got movies, we got podcasts, visiting yours big nice, we got we got pizza. We got Stone the Pizza Pusher. We got

a lot of things. You know, Christopher and we were, we were everybody that is really with lb VA Kila gotta shout out definitely Voca. We got a lot of people that's definitely down with us. You know what I'm saying. We want to bring everybody together. We want to bring everybody up. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2

That queen that she was talking to that Queen's to like I said.

Speaker 3

I had, I had different boroughs.

Speaker 2

Ain't just now we're talking about.

Speaker 3

One thing about queen. Listen. When I was locked up, niggas ship.

Speaker 4

Up.

Speaker 3

Listen, damn we used to be with person of one thing. I always saying about drink one thing, one thing about queens. No disrespect for anybody in every country, in any city, state or whatever it is. We had the most ms in every decade, in every era, every queen, and every season, every every every every joint you have, anybody. So we had in any emerald we had the most seas, but we had the most seas on any plateaus in any any But we love them, we but we love them. But I mean you know we love them.

Speaker 2

We love we Barrols and.

Speaker 3

And listen, I had to go. I had to go through this and jet niggas always talking about your versus.

Speaker 16

We have verses, this barrow versus, we barrow versus. What we do with that, We put the verges of the borough.

Speaker 3

And you're not just destroy everybody's feeling.

Speaker 4

We're gonna know what, Elizabeth and Lizeny and you can bring Brogs, you can bring Brooklear, you can bring whatever.

Speaker 2

By the way, law Law.

Speaker 3

Bring out.

Speaker 4

We can bring all our cool Jay, We bring out Run DMC everybody.

Speaker 3

We bring out everybody from the borough. Lost boy, everybody from the borough. Get three records.

Speaker 2

Listen, that's like you whatever, that's like four. We're gonna give you twenty.

Speaker 3

We're gonna give you twenty. And we gotta.

Speaker 4

Question what happens Queen Queen Queens Queens Queen Queen.

Speaker 2

You know.

Speaker 3

Right, there's a borough thing, so you ain't gotta That's the thing about that first we about competition. Rat was about competition.

Speaker 2

All it's all love.

Speaker 3

Rap was about competition, and we kept it like that. Let me tell you we kept it like that.

Speaker 12

M M.

Speaker 3

I want Peter Scotland Rock or anybody about.

Speaker 2

The first Absolutely absolutely.

Speaker 3

Yeah, that's my tragic and hip hop.

Speaker 11

I have a felt in that's the first tragedy bull of bar Scott, Come.

Speaker 3

On, cousin, I'm saying that's the first, like.

Speaker 6

The first incident ever where you've seen a nigga getting money and get killed.

Speaker 3

Since you know I mean that out there and.

Speaker 6

Want to throw a bigger as I as I slide away repeater Lovesky miss you nigga Else you.

Speaker 4

Do, Miss loved, make some love. You're gonna wrap it up right now. We're gonna take some pictures and then you're gonna do some drops. But but I'll be remissed not to say how much I wanted to do this. I love to do this, you know, and I want to really really like because I know I am a queen's representative and I am a I'm a queen's in basket.

Speaker 6

But this is not me.

Speaker 4

This is me being pure love for the Lost Boys, because the Lost Boys are the first people that to me after Bis Marky Bis Markey was making funny wrap. But but y'all are making y'all are partying with street music, and that's never happened exactly. That's never been actually documented. Y'all parties, But yall party with street music and you still tell stories at the same time that's never been happened.

It's never been I want to actually, you know, big y'all love for that show, y'all soul, so much love for that to your face, face to face, and give you all your flowers for that.

Speaker 5

Who I wrap it up ahead.

Speaker 3

More right?

Speaker 2

You see how you said what you said, it's the two party is a question.

Speaker 1

You see how you said it's been a minute since you had that, and.

Speaker 3

Bobby Smurder, I.

Speaker 2

Believe that you feel me.

Speaker 1

He may not even be he may not even understand it, but it's been the he understands.

Speaker 3

Even he probably do. I'm saying, give it take. I don't know.

Speaker 1

I'm not I don't know dancing music. What I'm saying is what I'm saying is to Bbby's a great guy.

Speaker 3

I know he's a great guy.

Speaker 1

I can tell by his energy open, how he's enjoying life right now. What I say is I say that to say this the energy you feel me New York energy, that New York energy. When Bobby came on the scene, he made he made it good for gangster niggas that come from the hood to have a good.

Speaker 4

And filming the videos in the in the Hood video was filming.

Speaker 3

Hold on, I said it was a two par and then another part you the Queen's nigga, you feel me?

Speaker 1

Do you have any lost boys freaky tis mister Cheeks memories that you had to the just give us one. We just need we need one form because because your queens.

Speaker 4

And mister Chiefs played basketball and he's.

Speaker 3

Gonna say that ship. He said that.

Speaker 4

He was saying basketball checks just turned up.

Speaker 3

I don't know what the fuck I was so. I was so bad. Just like we always drinking. I was setting them up the same way.

Speaker 4

I'm sending them today.

Speaker 3

I want.

Speaker 2

But that day, chicks, he did not let himself get drunk.

Speaker 4

If we played basketball, and this niggas was doing some crazy like I was like, what's that?

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, it's definitely damn.

Speaker 5

This was the street from left right.

Speaker 4

Damn.

Speaker 3

I was so mad.

Speaker 4

I was so mad because I didn't even know, like, like, by the way this nigga started doing ship, nobody told me.

Speaker 3

She could play back. That was a good night.

Speaker 2

Like that good night yo.

Speaker 3

When you grew up in left right, yes, did they have tennis racking course?

Speaker 4

No, it came later.

Speaker 2

See I was there.

Speaker 3

We was about to move me and my family. He was about to move the left rack when they had a tennis racking court.

Speaker 4

Yes, yes, yeah, I was there, Yes, I was going. It happened, and then the white people left exactly. You know why they wanted to make it the Jewish community. At one point they wanted to make it it's the Jewish community.

Speaker 3

Now it wasn't when you moved it.

Speaker 1

It was, but you understand like I understand that now it's.

Speaker 2

Robots out there live right right, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4

And yeah, about to beat You're about to go, We're about to get the You're about to go, Yeah, about to beat.

Speaker 8

Yeah, that's you have to be like they want to be mellible yet because listen, you know what I'm talking about. People about the the fuck out of y'all. I know down here, I'm reading.

Speaker 2

What they're gonna do with y'all.

Speaker 4

You better buy probably you better own that ship because because that's my word. Listen to me, y'all the only New York property before the Hampton that's.

Speaker 3

On the beach. Are you crazy? Listen to let me just own it by the city first of the y'all going to work first. Gentification is not not it's not go ahead.

Speaker 2

I'm something.

Speaker 1

I'm saying nothing when Sammy, I'm not like said with Sammy. When Sandy came, that was that was like free demolition for for rockaway about that breezy point because it knocked off all the beach. Now it's all free for developing. You know how many houses was lost like that? You know how many development people coming in Yo as black people to go to church and listen. I'm a young nigga, and we, like I said, we in the era where

we started we learning. We we got a lot of access to a lot of ship, financial freedom, learning what's going on the world, paying attention and doing the right ship because we in situations like we grew up like like you said, we grew up in in these environments where it's not too much for us.

Speaker 2

You feel me, but now it's.

Speaker 1

Our Our situations is developing.

Speaker 2

You feel me.

Speaker 1

Even you feel me wherever you are. There's a lot of new development. But we've been there forever.

Speaker 3

You feel me.

Speaker 1

We've been in there forever and we've been doing the project.

Speaker 3

Ship. They're taking over the projects too.

Speaker 1

So what we gotta do is you said, either buy you some ship, get the fuck out, flip that ship.

Speaker 3

Yeah you understand, Yeah, you know we.

Speaker 5

Chicken wings.

Speaker 2

What you want to say?

Speaker 3

You had one last question. I forgot that you a big span, right fixed. I just want to give the a shower. Nice Kim in the building. Yes, shot, baby doll, that's what.

Speaker 2

The first.

Speaker 3

You on Sunday. Yes, we got KALs in Atlanta that's right on Sunday, brunches. I say, from twelve to four, everyone that's listening, we're at the Man where the girls be. Man, that's what got So what are you talking?

Speaker 2

You say you don't live in Queens. So where you live now?

Speaker 3

Right now? I live in South Carolina, Man, in South Carolina. Trying to move. But I'm trying to blow the South Carolina up because I know we've been doing ship from like I said, from the eighties, we've been moving all the way to Florida, all the way here and we've been playing seeds all the way now literally or literally, not literally literally but literally sixteen kids, I don't know what, but literally, but listen, we've been putting music dirt all

the way down ninety five since the eighties. Actually we did good, we did bad, you know what I'm saying. But I want to do South Carolina. I want to help South Carolina grow because everything skipped. Everything was going but and it skipped over South Carolina, but it went all the way this way. We're talking about to why are we talking about you? Why are we talking about you?

Speaker 4

Because we kept saying earlier the good and the bad, right but and then cheeks said, you know what, at one point they went bad?

Speaker 3

Is the bad time at the time you hit the bank? Is dad it?

Speaker 6

Oh?

Speaker 4

Because this might be the last question, because everyone is telling me y'all got to go.

Speaker 3

I got you. But listen, My thing is, I'm a street nigga. I've been in the streets right, always been in the streets right for real. Yes, when I say for real, for real, yeah, I met niggas that's in in jail, that saying you're a legend. I said, fool, what what are you talking about, young niggas. I never met a bank robber, never mind a rapper, never minded the shit that you don't heard this that, and the third heard me from I never met a bank robber.

M I heard about him. I seen stories, I seen movies or shows and this that, and third, I never heard somebody else had a bank robbery charge, like for real? And you like that? You you cool? You ain't gonna suck up time or bullshit time. And the center third, so times is up and down, ups and downs. You know what I'm saying. Sometimes you got your good times and sometimes you go in your back time. Niggas do what they do. I've been in the street, niggas, I've

been in the streets, So what happened happened. Not saying that these motherfuckers know what the hell will happen, or that what they accused me of happening, shit happens if I ain't. If I then you would have known about it. But you ain't hear them. Ah, So it's whatever it is. You know what I'm saying. I ain't you know, niggas get off the porch and run in the streets and get hit by a car.

Speaker 2

That's a bar that is as you know.

Speaker 3

Niggas is over here talking about he did it. He told me to go across the street. You feel me. N I ran across the street myself. Nobody tell me nothing if you ask me, or whatever the case may be. So it's like I did what I do? I do? I take my lik if I didn't, or dinner, I ain't. I don't know nothing. Ronald Blackwell, you feel me? That's my name? What's your name? Ronald Blackwell? Bay? Now you feel me? Broke my fast? Look, I'm doing it for

the drink drink chat. I make that one up. I'll make this one up.

Speaker 4

Is there anything else any one in y'all want to say before y'all get up out.

Speaker 6

Of here, LB for life, you dig man's no man know, we appreciate the uh you know, giving us a light real quick, you know what I mean? Shouts contained to bite them in them universe? Who about to do a little twenty five year anniversary album for legal.

Speaker 3

Half the time that half the time, that half the time that hip hop was alive, We got twenty five. We was in there, jumped in that game. Yeah, yeah, we had our standing. Hey, stay nappy. We're trying to do what we do and we're trying to continue the legacy with our kids, with our nephews, with our frands. Everything game in the game. Everybody grandfather's now all of us grandfathers. Lou wait wait wait, cheer dad. Lou is

the cheer dad. Yes, cheer daddy. Cheerleader. He got daughters, that's cheerleaders, and that's more important to him than anything.

Speaker 2

It should be.

Speaker 3

You know what I'm saying. Championship tossing around them. Yeah, you got the legacy. That's what we're trying to keep our legacy going. And for everybody that don't know lost boys is listen, one more thing I used to tell cats, young cats and ship like that, thig. I'm the reason you hear your mother met your father on our show, and that's been real ship because you know why, because I met a bunch of dudes that said, I heard y'all. They don't know me, but they heard her. Something. That

means that your parents was influenced. Your mother, your father was influenced by music. That's how y'all got together, that's how y'all got produced. We did produce, no disrespect to R. Kelly, but we didn't produce a motherfucker bunch of kids ourselves, and we played it seize ourselves.

Speaker 1

How many kids from like I want to see like two thousand, two thousand and one, how many kids got the name Talie?

Speaker 4

How many?

Speaker 3

How many can that's a go Google Google?

Speaker 1

And in the South, so many kids name is I got two arts that really fuck with I'm like, damn, and both of their name is Tale, and then I I meet their feeling. I'm like, they're like, hey, you know, I name them after your pops. It's so many boys, and I like, because it's not even just you feel me, but it's because like, my pops is an urban legend in South Jamaica.

Speaker 2

Queens. Right, Yes, he's from street like you. You hear stories. You hear stories from.

Speaker 3

All No, y'all all off, but y'all hear it.

Speaker 2

Y'all hear it to tell a story.

Speaker 4

You feel me.

Speaker 1

So when I me personally, when I hear stories about I hear stories about pops.

Speaker 2

Literally every single I'm thirty years old.

Speaker 6

You feel me.

Speaker 1

I hear stories about my pops every single day I wake I live in Jamaica, Queens, you feel me. Some days I wake up niggas is driving past my window, bumping those boys like this is this is every day, every fucking feel me. It's so embedded in to our like you feel me. Pop influenced that That's why we said you hip hop gave us the flowers. That's necessary because we put them Nigga. These motherfuckers put that shit down.

Speaker 2

Drink Champs is a Drink Champs LLC production and association with Interval Presents. Hosts and executive producers n O r E and dj e FN from Interval Presents executive producers Alan Coy and Jake Kleinberg. Listen to Drink Champs on Apple Podcast, Amazon Music, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you get

your podcasts. Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs, hosted by Yours truly, dj e f N and n O r E. Please make sure to follow us on all our socials That's at drink Champs across all platforms, at the Real Norrie go on I g at Noriega on Twitter, Mine is at Who's Crazy on ig at dj e f N on Twitter, and most importantly, stay up to date with the latest releases, news and merch by going to drink Champs dot com m

Transcript source: Provided by creator in RSS feed: download file
For the best experience, listen in Metacast app for iOS or Android