Episode 347 w/ JT Money

j T boys. What's excited? Is he like fucking voice? This is motherfucking melity even drink. And from the very moment we started this podcast, from the very moment that we said we was gonna cover legends, and we said that we was gonna go out and we was gonna get the people who's been down and who's people who's been and the other two hourss to two hours and there was people didn't It was a time we didn't

understand where the our home was gonna be. But once we said Miami, Florida is going to be the home of drink chance, I cannot tell you how many fans requsted this man. I can't tell you how many people has come up to us daily wherever we go. When you're gonna have hold me on. He's a part of a legendary group. When you first think of uh Dade County, arguably you think of Luke to him. Some some people might say him to Louke, depending on who you ask.

He's a legend, legend, liricly who I like to think of him. If you put Tupac and scar Face together and they were from Florida, that's who he would be. Sprinkle a little Luke and there. I've been listening to him all goddamned weak because we've been preparing, and goddamn it, we're gonna get there. What the fundank is. We're gonna find out. Damn case you don't know what we talked about. The legendary, the legend of legends, King of Florida, King

of Miami, Day County. Represent Beat that up. Whoa your one and only legendary iconic j T motherfucker off? Top off? Top I was I love your relationship with Tupac? I heard it was y'all an inferno in Holland down, you know, hold on, hold on, tell his story? Are you and Pock and Inferno and and and Hollydad? Man? You know, I had just heard about it though, that's when I

first met him. But yeah, this song, you know, I think Brendan's Got the Baby was out for there the song on they wanted to be a soldier And then dude say, tell you whatever't gonna be there to night. I'm like, no, we gotta go see this guy. So this is the only he only got bringing up the baby just right after the Underground first. Yeah, do sound like each other? So I try to, you know. And I walked in the back of you know they see

money by there that in the hood. You know, I'm walking the back way there, and the song was playing. I was, man, I bought a roll in the joyce saying uh ahead. So I walked in like, oh hell, but he already knew I was of them two little like mother's. But since then we've been tight, you know. So we'll see each other on the road with a different conventions. You know what it used to have, seminars and conventions. Back we were always gone here right there.

We're not gone here, but running the playoffs you know, it was good, good game, man, And I heard it was one time that you bumped into him and you told him, man, you got all these nigs on your album. You ain't got me on. I was waiting, but he passed before that, you know, prior to that, huh. You know it was Luke Regorzen death row right, once upon a time, the arrival, cows and continence, you know, all that was going on. But then my man had then

got hooked up over there. You know. I was just gonna be like me, so how you got all these things? And you know your boy, you know you guy, you know, But anyway, it ain't happened that way though, But that was it though. I ain't never get to tell you no. But I know we didn't heard about now because I understand that one once or twice. Dude, I don't know,

stay down that, Truman. So let me ask you. Right, when I first I've moved up living, I'm going on I think sixteen years, like solid living three five at this point. Just alright, but on one of the first things that I heard was like the broward and day, like little sayings to each other. Right, this is ship that I didn't know when I lived in New York, right, But then now I'm out here, I see like they'll say like Brower's and cows, and then they were like,

don't get sprayed and Day. Well, a lot of people tell me that that came That is the exact thing that directly came from confidence gets sprayed and Day. Yeah, was it? Was it the few between Broward and Day. Somebody was no, you asked the question, Um, it was just division of Day. Day was dating brow was broad because anybody from anywhere else thought Miami was from Palm Beach down right, and then Miami to be like no,

let me you know, just like like you hit the boy. Yeah, he was like no. In the guy from the data from Brawler, Yeah, you know, but that's all that was. But the whole cows in Connie sprading Day, it was cows from at first that came from that got him. Let me knowing that a little feel about history when pull that up in Miami, people used to be to South Miami and North Miami always be no. But you know, in New York, we never, I never we never saw that.

We always saw y'alls being the South is having unity. Yeah, we never, we never, we never saw that because I heard you. That's like how you got on. It's like kind of got on. But like that was one of the things you did at school was battled like New York people who came out here that ropa, Like I even started robbing because it wasn't no niggas like me rapping. Yeah, it was like it was always it was almost dear.

So who influenced you? Like, who influenced your It was cute J T Money what I was always cool Jay Rocky and Dad King and cool, you know, but I know the music, you know, I used to listen to niggers like and I just don't even know about these things. You know, just wait, how do you be influenced for something like that? And then at the time it was Luke that was really really doing it and bass music imperious.

But was everybody you named this real lyrical And you could when you listen to her the lyrics, you could tell that you I was a fan of the lyrics the music. I actually heard him as a short like, yeah, that's that ship like, but music was, you know, the basics things that made them Basically if you look in the early two Life Crew, the lyrics was similar to what run DMC was. I'm just saying was just style, but it was to me too. Life Crew was kind

of lyrical for that time. I say, my brother Mark he was he was the guy for here y'all brother piece. So okay, how did you and Uncle Luke in Netity? OHK? Well, Mr Mix from two lot of crewel he actually heard me and deal and like a little town to show big that the eight six hunter I was. That was our money. We're still in school now, but we'll go out to a college night Tuesday Wednesday and we won first or second place. That was a week or two a week or something like that. We just got the

five hundred three hundreds, you know what I'm saying. So yeah, man hunderfitted underfitted every week down without Robbins. But Mr Mims hurts and know he's like, man, you'll want to make a rugget. And I don't even think they knew who he was, you know, I'm East New York NI. But I'm like, yeah, let's do it. We wouldn't even trying to make ruggets like and we weren't passing out demos. We weren't going to see people. We didn't have no

industry here. It wasn't if you weren't down with Looking m So it's just to say that Luke created the industry here. He Well, we always had Gloriestefan Casey and the Sunshine Band. We always Michael Stirld and we always had in a circle. But that route music, Luke was like the biggest independent, the major independent, like you had other labels, you know, saying them had a label base station. Uh whoever can in man all these every dope boy had a record label just and then everybody get a

local single. But Looking Luke did more mankt them promotion more of an international scale, you know, and they with the controversy, you know what, that man was Nation one international at that So you know, that's the way I see it because I ain't shoot, I ain't know nothing. I just knew I was playing on the winning team and I was gonna kobe that ship. Nika Jordan's so so because because at that time, it really wasn't and I don't want to label the South like and it's

the time, but it really wasn't lyrical. Like like to tell you too, like you're like the first lyrical person that I heard coming from Miami. Is that fair? I was like, I know it's been yeah, now you know again there's been people, but you didn't hear about the level on the level at the level. So but I know you said what your ideas, But what made you want to go lyrical? What what made you not say? Let me just stick with bass. If I'm around, if I'm gonna talk to you, I'm gonna tell you something.

I ain't gonna waste you in space and I ain't gonna waste my you know, scratch you right now. I ain't gonna waste these vocal corps. Stop playing on singing next year, you know what I'm saying. So, so y'all wait around from a new album, I'm saying, I say, the next ship, the rap I'm from the same now goodhead.

But um yeah man, but the wrap but again, my dudes, no, you know, dude, I was wrapping because you know it wasn't nothing that's being represented and everybody had damn that the same round you're wrapped the colors, you wrapped the sodas, you're wrapped the liquors. You know, I'm like, but go out the red coverlet the vehicles blow. Pimp deserve you know I talked about Miami ship, but huh yeah. But the first album they called y'all baby to baby to

to like mother. Second album, though said it's like Miami's in way, like like fair to comp That's what that's when me and there split, And by that time I was like, oh, y'all like that, they wouldn't do home team. Y'all still my brother still love them. We still like we're doing a new Portland clan. But then when that after that, yeah, we got all the numbers, you know,

everybody recording. You know, we got bout tents on so far anyway, But when we split, by that time I was to the pointer or y'all like that or where they get a load of there. That's when you started getting the actions and the hells and the whole stories and say, with your MoMA, good, it's just doing me now. It ain't even rapped no more. It's repped. It's representing. It's representation. The first album I called that deal of the Hags album. You got the California but docing in

New York and the Mimi Ning. I called that the album because I just came in on the street and field in the blanks like we would get on the phone. I got three that we were talking what you got for this beat? We did all up then we're going to studio all day, all night, you know. But when I wasn't recording, I was, you know, this is whatever I was doing that nis the yard. Yeah, I was doing my thing, you know, I said, so that's the album. But by the time I got the Porta Mentality, that's

when everybody left Louke. Everybody was going from Tooline or on team my boy. You know, I just stuck with him, you know. And I felt like at that time there's a lot of Nicks waiting on the fold to dangn really like Wayne took with cash money. Yeah, and I wrote good example, I rode with you know what I'm saying, and I did my thing. But like if you if you the boord the mentality, you hear my name a lot of that bitch. I made sure a bit knew

who I was after that album. But even the album, as you look at it, right, people j T and yeah, that's some creative marketing by the people who wanted the bankruptcy from looking then and they're using it because they had the right to do so and that paperwork back then that they want and all that right there. But it's cool that they're not lying. Yeah, yeah, they're not lying though. But I only god damn'd that money got two separate careers. Man. Sometimes they don't even put me together.

If you listen to the radio stations and like playing on Spile, you won't hear j C Money soth on the Poortland Clan station. You won't hear a Portland Clan record on the j Moneing station. If the only one that will probably beled is shake with Your Mama, Gail. Yeah. Other than that, you won't hear none of those other PC songs if you listen to j C. Money radio, if you listen to the radiodor well, why they don't put them together. It's two different lives. That's not that

workout beneficially for you all. I ain't figured it out yet that one of my yeah, well I mean my pieces, my piece, so every third of days or three months it will show up. You know. What's up about us is what wait? Wait, year you came out the two old like Monthers album. Okay, so you you definitely I came nineties ninety seven. There was no digital and at all at all? So how the fund do we even go in debate that y'all always digital money when we

never actually signed the digital deal? Should just ask and I listen, I've actually read lyrics, I mean not lyrics concert and they're saying UM for any and other whatever and to come they're putting that in the next thing. Y'all start selling CDs two elephants. Yeah, they doing that.

They're like ship. But when Dance on Night came out before the album dropped, so that was wasn't the eighty nine I Hate for You Becoming the girl that I got that in my notes I was eighty nine and then the album You're the ninety y'all were running that through the pack. Jam yeah, jam, ship whatever and nails bumping that like wow radio we're on the radio on DJ College. Yeah, this is before all right, let me let me go to um something about pepper somebody you

in too short? Yeah? How did you make this? How did you connect with to show what the is going on? This is? This is complain be played right now? That ship right now? See when when when Alana was the little before I went to the Lina, I was always see short right, he was up and now you know, and I always want to do something in the show. We always did a lot of shows. So when I finally got a situation with a little budget, I was able to say, hey man, you know without being disrespectful,

because you know, ship we had no features. That was my first time doing features. Pimino Whites, everything else was just from the hood and he was I knew the Poison clan. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, we we didn't reach out. I'm damn, that's far. I remember some of the dudes asked me about a feature, and I go to Lucas say, hey man, they want to do a feature. What you think He said, I wouldn't do it,

So I didn't do it. But I'm not thinking of networking or fucking with nobody somewhere else, you know what I'm saying, spreading the game because I don't know. I just it was a major independent at the time, and the short was independent as well. It was a job. But he was sure, you know, I guess he was doing what he wanted to do. You know, we took out of paperwork. But yeah, that was just some ship

I wanted to do. Like and you was on job at the time he was on no. I was doing um Priority Capital, Capital Priority, Cuban, and Cuban was over there, was over there, everybody else, a lot of people, and you were independent through Priority. Had a situation, met Dallas, Austen and Tone of Mercedes. We had a situation and Dallas had to plug over that Capital Capital to Privority to work it. And I just went out and deal with I had to do because yeah, I was getting

my money and I was getting yesterday yesterday pricing. Do you do you do you like being on the major or do you like being on the independ I like, well, on that right now, I'm kind of like under the radar but over the bullshit and like skating and ship and then throw the dick when I want to. I'm saying, Heisman on the whole. You know what I'm saying. I'm free,

you know what I'm saying. But amazing, Listen, man, I believe they don't play with the money when they say they're gonna give you the money, but then what you got it? I think once you got it, you got it, So don't be trying to come back like with but you know that's what they're gonna get crazy. But if we say they gotta need this right now, I think they're gonna do that. The major, Yeah, I think so eid I ever done? Me? Asked them, I said, I said what I want. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,

so you pick the independent of major? Do I pick? I'd rather be independent? I went again. I went again, the reason being, couldn't hear you heard he said that? Check? Check, that's that made. Yeah, I'm always major, he's always independent. Yeah. See we don't mind grinding. Yeah, you know I want I want pedicures. Even though I got a pedicure, I don't got no pedicut. I want to ship they can sell it. But yeah, man, you see a piece of business the hip hop he's you know what I'm saying,

you're renting out to you can't on it? Who who j T would do it? Versus against you? Probably gotta get bout two or three people with me. I'm just saying in real life, though, I mean, you can pick whoever you want to pick like that? Could I keep your local? Always trick trick my brother. I'll do anything. Listen, see men treat new shows like that. Yeah, you do a song, I do a song you do a son. You know, we don't rock the crowds like that. No,

we don't rock the crowds like that, you know. But again, hey man, whatever they want to man what Okay, coo coo coo coo coo coolock get so no, no, let's pressure so but I'm asking, yeah, yes, yes you would. Okay, now, now, no tricks. I already saying I ain't suing nobody from the crib. But I mean it's like a celebration and that's how we got to such. But if who you betting on you? Against you a track? Money? Man? Okay, I didn't want to get you all this trouble. But me,

let's let's think. Let's in a new truth zone. Okay, let's think it one more because I'm the underdog now Okay, Okay, I got one zone and I got one. I got to actually to give it to me. Let me tell you tell me if because because I might be off the off the rick to scale twister like a version. Yeah yeah, but I don't know nothing, as I like the Pope pump again, anybody, man, you ain't got to know, right,

So that's what I'm saying. It don't matter. I know, but look, they're gonna be like to do that, and I'm gonna say, I'm you know what I'm saying, and I'm gonna say right for everything, genre, every style. Look at what you wanna do? You want to roll out the rid A couple of the front kids in the house. You want to do? Can nobody nigga run the yard what you want to? Don't get these niggas, this gang say that what I'm gonna get? Turn it out energy, God give me a litt I ain't gonna lie, and

I'm gonna just go out right. I'm gonna just go outright and asking what kind of drugs do you want? When you made that happened? It was only we yet bucking club. So though I can get mom, I hate okay, yeah, let thank you. I'm sorry man that shot out dog cool? Who made that beat? Trick Stewart sat one of deal who that hold on you go back? Don't go there? Trick stuff? So what what is the first thing when this beat come on you? What did you say? You say?

Did the chorus come immediately? Funny thing? I had one of my little dogs with me and uh, he's just he's While I'm writing the verses, I ain't got no hood yet, and he's just putting that ship in my What did he say? He said, hit them hit Hi? No, hit him hi hit. I'm just like just like you're doing nothing, you know. Yeah, they you know, we had the riding cowboys, you know, like the Western that was the watching what the hell? Because it wasn't ship with

some crook ship. Yeah, man, that showed that. So I know some ship like that, right so now now or the feeling that music is at the top of the game. Correct or it was a genre. I was in Atlanta at the time, to people thinking, you from Atlanta when this record? Yeah, that's when I learned by way up, I ain't know nothing about that. Yeah, you from by where Miami? Like I see sending up for Mini. Man, you know what I'm saying. But he was saying that, Yeah, I had to put the Byeway in. Yeah, could I

do that wrong? Yeah? By way of Miami, Florida, Like, okay, from Mania, Miami, not damn mine. All that I was talking to all that ship right there, So holy shit, man, holy ship. I got notes, all right, I got the Inferno Okay, yeah, we got that. Okay, the joint you got dedicated to the old school. Yeah, yeah, I like that rugger who made you do that? I don't know. Somebody say they were gonna get me my flowers while I'm lave, I wanted to get them they flowers. Let's

give you old stuff. I was listening to all the stuff. I was listening to the stuff we grew up to rocking, And I'm like ship man because I was hoping one day when the old nig is gonna here like we we're gonna get your flowers to your face right now. You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, And that's how you know they're showing off. They put a stick of day on the back of this and all that. Ain't do that for nobody else. Come on, Miami, Miami,

just wreckt with Miami. Moh hold hold it down for you. Yeah, but let's finish the old school question. So you wanted I was hoping one of the most school he was gonna hit and be like, damn, what game was the shot? Probably feel like, well, who that who that is? Don't know? I'm growing as here, but like, damn, you hear that boy shout at your name out wanted somebody frank you belly be like they could money sad my hold, I love you shout to Bear White's Yeah you were shotting

all them out, shot them all them out on that record. Yeah, man. Before I moved on to the next question, how come you Trick and Ross they made a whole album together like that, The Mountain Westmore like Mount Westmore Woman, and you gotta add treating. You gotta add Trina, Right, I'm working on all right. We gotta get all these cash in one room together. Right. I'm thinking it's beyond ego and pride. I hope that ain't it. I'm hoping this busy schedules are priorities at first. And you know you

have this idea. Yeah, I've been trying to get in it, like people have been at me for that for the longest. And I'm like, we'll stop asking me, y'all know. Just get these other niggas on board, and I'm gonna show up the work, you know what I'm saying. But I ain't gonna buy. I think Trick would it. I think Trina would do it. I think you just gotta send the verses to Rose and I think he'll do it. Me knowing all. Yeah, it is a dream or fours,

three of y'all. Well, it was three. You know. I figured trying to beat us somewhere could be on all the hooks. Yea, yeah, I would thoughts a couple of verses. I mean, yeah, yeah, So what's the name of the group, if it's ever happened? I never thought that. Fine, the crib, the crib like it. We're gonna creer, I like it. I like, okay, alright, I'm gonna put that in there, y'all. Good. He loved he loved being from three or five. That's one thing about y'all. Y'all Miami people. Y'all love being

from Miami. Okay, but Damner Man, Okay, but that y'all love. What what is it? What is it? What is it? What is it about this Miami bride? Oh no, I think we think we're different. It's just like y'all New York nigga out of the world. You're like, y'all thought out the world. And then we shot like, yeah, you know what I'm saying, y'all, that's very true. You know what I'm saying, y'all got ports, we got ports. Yeah, that's she was being dropping out back yard of the

world in the eighties. I'm gonna get y'all one thing. I'm gonna get y'all one thing. And I'm born and raised in New Yorker, but I've been out here sometimes. But but give y'all one thing that y'all want me. But saying, clearly, beat us on. This is the most corrupt place in the world. Yeah, you can buy anything anywhere, any from a body. Okay, what are you explaining that? That sounds like good to me. I go out of

the places like anythings. Ain't hustling around here because if I want to go somewhere, I phone, I want to get me a drink, buy me some way. I should be able to do something. Growing as man, it's not like I mean, when I was dropping down from Atlanta, how much chain women, I would pull over at six and the one, just to show them. I can go on the lik a store, just to show them. Say that's what we're doing here. It's a look a store around here. It's called twenty three. Just added that back

there was one hour. By the way, I would be honest, when I've been in New York at twelve o'clock, I'll look at store is closed. So when I first started coming out here, I would ask with the bootleg because after twelve in New York will go to a bootlegger and your your thirty dollar bottle of Hennessey is now. And I would ask people when I came out here in the first moved up here with a bootlegger, and they would just look at me, like, what bootleg of motherfucker?

We could go to the back of it's open. I'm like, what the corrupt motherfucker? Well, that's the corrupt party, mean, that's that's that's the beginning of it. Yeah, I could speak for the Cuban side of it. And then another thing, another thing. This is another thing that I learned earlier on in Miami. The strip club is not really a strip club. It's a business place. It's club, it's a meeting,

you dinner. Like there's nothing sexual about the strip club when you actually in Miami, Like when you first here about you like, okay, especially if you a girl not from Miami or don't, like what are you going to tut for? You're like, I'm gonna have a meet a meeting like the chef is five star, like really, and then your girl looking at you like really, and then then she winds up going there she's like I got a meeting that. Yeah, she was really on the chef

Frid locked it serious, makes only moldly come clean. Let's talk about that. Come at all? Yeah, motivational record in the scripture. You know what I'm saying. If you're gonna do it, do it all the way, don't do it at all, come cleaner, don't come at all, because when you have stepped, that's when motherfucker's you have to name it. That record for us? You a j with the damnager.

That's right, he's had a record because I was just getting on the front because yeah, let's take a hip hop right there, only young lakers in the room there talking about right see what time that's a real hit. I didn't know what that was here. But come clean was the saying. It's always been by saying, you know, I'm cleaning, don't come at all. You know what I'm saying. And then I can't clean on that and it might have come clean and you know, and it's like whether

it's information or just the game. You know your car outfitting, you gotta come clean. We're going and you know, I don't don't hear what y'all to day and then I better come clean, better clean. So so if he did it, then then that means he beat me on that one. Okay, I'm not to shoot that that, you know, one favorite rocket. So so one of the days, this is one of the first days. Um, this is crazy. I know. I told the story. I told the story with Trick before,

but we were towards me, big pun Trick. I forget who else. I believe fact Joe was on this. The Trick called me to his room. Trick is rolling the blood, so it's all black at first. This is when you know, we didn't have green weed back then, like all you fucking green weed assholes, like we had brown weed back then,

like we had Todd y'all, y'all that. So Trick is rolling up and then before I know it, like his blunt went from brown the straight white and then he flipped there and you know, we're from New York, so we don't know what the funk going on, and he lit that and we knew that was a difference. Now, that was a difference, man, And to this year and years later, I would still see Trick and I would see him so be alive, and I'm like, trick Daddy is hair like I would never see, you know, the

whole on the side. I'm like here and I know you know, I'm like, yes he is and showing up. Is that what dank is or one somebody version? Yeah. But like when I was saying thing, I was just calling we dang anyway, talking on some good dank, good dank. But yeah, people were talking about boom relations boom yeah boom like you know, dirty heavy David that this this is what I knew. Miami is an ill place. I

asked the dude one time. I don't want to say his name because he kind of famous too, and I said, yea, why why do you smoke that ship with the god? He looked at me in my face and said, this is more pure than we. He told me, go gain, I'm gonna tell you something. Ab picture your Graham's telling you that this good high. That's a good ship. And I'm just like wow, like saying, no, this is better than good. That's a good clean high. Yeah. Man, So

some people believe that, but that's it. I'm gonna compete with weed, uh right, were just like the new crack now anyway, right, like it's more, it's more weed all over. I tell you all my weas story. Okay, let's go, let's go lit, let's come on, let's get that that week. I'll go a million places. Right, just always set it out the best of the best. Uh, not about tiding because I don't be smoking all day no more. I did my seven years on papers clean. You should say

seventy years seven okay, seven years. You know everybody got their formula method like, no, you gott do you can still just move. You just take this, And I say, no name, that's not I'm gonna just stay out. I'm not gonna piss dirty. I'm of me being out here. If all they got do not smoke. And you know I'm single paying. At the time, I got about two yard niggas. You know That's what I'm talking about, Daddy.

You know I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking So when I got all papers niggas like, oh I want to get you high one. I tried to hear that ship once what like nig anytime I'm y'all smoking, But this same reef no more, the ship and the like. Even today, I still try like if you like, I'll be like when I hear it because it's you. But at one time you trying to pa I want that ship. It's that ras smoke. But I found me something else. Okay, what you got? What you got on jan there's more

medicine versus recreation or yeah, say all the drops. Yeah, that's like a couple of dr sab that's that magic potion. That's all in the element pain. You're saying, I want to just get a book. Is it CPD or not? Definitely definitely a c that's fire. So you ain't got the smoke. Yeah right, you know I'm saying again, I'm trying to bring a vote card back, and I'm singing that year you're playing around, you're saying you're singing or

you're gonna You're gonna sing. I'm gonna sing. They're gonna sing, man, why not? I just want to do it in my key. I'm just talk. I mean to make anybody sound Goodbody something to do, Somebody figure it out. We had t I and Boosey here and they both told us that they're doing an album together. If you had a chance to do album together, obviously, besides the Crib album, what would it be one artist that you can you collaborate? Who would you who would you want to cut one

of them? Name? And unless you're gonna get me McCaine Younta, give me some ship like that and I'll do my part. They do their paw, let's go. But if you had one Nina, Chuck d n do the dirt part. I do the dirty part. Chuck, you will replace Flavor Flay. It's a whole new fie. Don'ta do this ship fight the plower? You know? Okay, we want the name of the group. He called j T Money and Chuck D. What was this Chuck D or j T Money? It's

got to be something something three six. It's gotta be something with the full circle like conscious conscious enemy pointing this enemy, poisonous enemy, holy ship, holy ship. They had a picture with Luke said, that's where I came from. I told I posted, I said, this is where I came from. Luke, Calvin Joe, there's all that stuff in man, you've seen Lucas. They seen Luke and um fat Joe was like about trick, Yeah, what do you think about that?

They handled like this shoot because because I was hoping they weren't gonna try to make it big, like it's no big motherfucker issue. Who said, he says, she's say neggative deal was done? Whoever got paid got paid? You know, yeah, n ship N I think I discovered something, scovered the American vision. I was here first. I was America. Yeah, I was noiseever in America. That should be the next name of your album. JT discovers America. That is hard and looked like you wasting and cook up a Columboss

fail like like him kiss Columbus Jesus. I'm sorry that sounded hard. You ain't never heard of the Columbus. I'm going way too far, going way too far him. But I was her first though, I'm saying, but he got the credit, you know what I'm saying. Who my Luca? Yeah yeah, let's let's speak about Luke before we get into a quick time of slime. What was y'all problem? When when you had a problem, because you, like you said, you stuck around, You held it, you held the ship,

and then y'all eventually wond up. Everybody say the same thing. You know, it's always financial, you know what I'm saying. When they're getting the money. There's probably watching outside look and feel like they should be getting more. Now. I don't know nobody deal. I don't know nothing like my thing me personally, I was getting more money and I was getting risking my freedom. I didn't know the bidding,

but I figured I was strung up to learn. You know, I bought my head the whole way to this table to day. Ain't nobody taught me ship. I'm really trialing arrow everything. So and then I looked at it, look right like that line parts a picture jew has been handed to an innocent child, Like he don't know what he got in hand. He don't know what it's gonna be. It's just a diamond. He just put it in my thought around it's a rock to him, he don't know.

So that's how I look at him. The game was still fairly young, you know, remember just a couple of years before that care us say wrapping a whole and even twenty years old. That was just a couple of years before Luke Lucas still learning. That's what I'm saying. Anything but everybody, but I mean, I still think NI could split more money the right Yeah, let's I think gonna share some money because if if if I saw that, take for him, y'all not to tell my house here, man,

it's the bag. Let's bust the bits over. Let's keep getting his money unless I'm thinking small himself is and not nigga's mine, y'all niggas, because I hurt one time he tried to, like you, got in trouble and he hired like a ninety tho all old loyer. He tried to try. Wouldn't nothing to pay for that. Oh shout on a little listen, I just get y'all. Louke, come get you, man, lou come get a look, come get

you man. Let's that money come get you because I don't got to anybody was like, listen, man, before every album went came out, we got locked up. Yeah, what's going on? I don't know that bullshit? But who come gets you? Though? But the fair thing was, I was like, no, bro, that's not me. I ain't doing anything. But when the fids come, you know they really got so I said, nigga, this tiny ain't I ship, but not they didn't, so

you know you beat the case. Yeah, listen, I'm trying to take you to trial and they're trying to go to trail, like came from the ship on the whole ship, and you go through that door to go into the courtroom. They left me out that though I was there. I got my mom, got a bag of clothes, and I'm like they had nothing, man. I was only locked up because I vialated. I stopped back smoking. I was out on bar for a year and it's like me, my

futher ain't got nothing on me. Fuy'll stopped smoking soon as it was day tone and spring break, Black black Beet, Black Mike a week, Yeah, Black Beach, Daytona freaking it was like a week apart. You know, I'm going, but I had to piss every week. So I came in this when we just dropped the left. I ain't waiting on the hulk. I went up to freaking it. When I came back next week and like, yeah, so I had to sit, but I think trial was coming up by for six months or something. I had to see it.

But ship, nigga, they had nothing on me. You know, you could have got when we was used rounding with him and when you had about three I said, well, y'll should have did your job. You said, y'all have me in a car for three kids. It's your craz and y'all didn't get me. But the three keys listen,

they think I'm the youngest nigga in the crew. Heathers that they're thinking, I'm gonna talk about like, listen, now, I wasn't getting none of that money and I'm now let me just like to hang with me because I'm live. You know, it's just like me. They got the money and I got the fame or whatever the funking was ill get him, you know some ship like that. You know what I'm saying. We were talking about putting the money in the rap game. Look at what I'm selling.

The dope knew. Yeah, Like, man, I see something. The end of the day, we'd be like we had all that money. Yea. I wish we knew then what I said. That's every old nigga. We knew then what we know now, that's every old If you guys, one of my kids, I said what I say, We'll say every old nigga favorite line. They gon say, if I knew then what I said. So if you listen to me, not motherfucker, you can be ahead of the game because I'm only

gonna give you. But I understand adolescents. I understand thinking they know what all listen, I ain't gonna parent on y'all show. Were drinking, Yeah, but it was crazy like they always um blame like our generation for not teaching the younger generation right, But I'd be scared to embrace the younger generation, not to not to think that they're gonna embrace us back. Is that something that we're doing wrong? Is? How do you feel about racist younger generation? I want

to embrace them. No, I don't want them to be like your old nigga, Like yeah, I mean like you're talking about like, you know, publicly, like like your old nigga. Like wait a minute, they call you o G. I'm like uping up with that. But sometimes I gotta rhyme. I said, sometimes they call you o G, but they don't really mean it. They're just calling you. Oh you gotta read in between it, you know what I mean. I felt that way the first time I came on they started the anc sh thought they were trying to

make me old. But then there's a sign of respect because I'm gonna bit okay, check, I'm gonna be there. But you know, I don't know y'all need to get away, man, huh, and I get it. You can't see how Yeah, but pitching me rolling little nigga, Okay, you know that's your actually uncle's an't your big brothers. You know what I'm saying. Whatever, nigga, but I'm give you what I got for you, So I don't think too much on that. Just give them

the on niggas that game, but they receive it. They do leaving the world, they don't drink, show them love and then that's you. Ever tried to, like, um, show some a young person in love and they like kind of looked at you like whatever. No, but I've had real young name know who the funk was talking to him? What I was talking about? Okay, but they was too young to even understand. But I had something. Yeah, just

remember that. They go, like teen years from now, you're gonna be like down, Yeah, that's that nigg that's I'm still you know, I'm just just planting them season man on nigga. Not real ship, real ship. You gotta explain in the game up the explanation. You pick one answer out of two two names we give you if you if you pick both and neither we're drinking. If you pick one, nobody drinks, so one we drink. We're giving you two things. If I'm taking both, you go now

we drink. Yeah, all right, so you ready, I set it off. This one you got, you got it tupop or DMX too, and d M is harder than a motherfucker too. To the next one. We're gonna drink, scar face ice C. I can't do that. Two different levels of gangster. Alright, alright, hold up, now, we can't do that drinking, because do you do that like the same thing. We could go back. We've never done this before. I owe y'all one. Okay, okay, I like I like that.

I'm about to drink the whole let Yeah. Yeah, that's y'all. Got a heart one from it, m hm, because you know it's certain they're like Park And then they had a reaction like it was a certain reciprocation for them, kneds on the street where they related, and I feel I had the same energy until I got that the light turned on much just like they identified them. He

was identified with that that thug. Yeah, so alright, so a good model, okay, all right, next one, Coco's a Rolex still, okay, loot up or t I what loot? How would whatever? It's whatever it's to you. I go over then asked me about I don't cares and goody, I'm I'm not my bad um. All right, So it's anything. It ain't about whatever you want. It could be anything. Who I choose, your criteria, whatever your right? You ready

you said both of them? Right? Yah ah? All right, I got this one and use The next one is definitely you take one or the office time period like once upon a time that one was self known, but the author of the day take one his legendary right now. What I'm saying as a time and that's that's before e J to the jukebox take one. Yeah no, no, no,

he's not drinking. He said, Oh you gonna do the office okay, okay, right now, you gotta do this with my brother, all right, pack jam or studio one A three Hey jam And I'm from one three Miami and nine right jam man? Yeah, boy, Now I feel like I got to write to ask this one Booby trap or ko D the late night Bull. We try the one on the river, that's the one you talk, the one out the way, but you know the one we're talking about. Ko Man shop, but just down with you.

I was with I sho you said, you know it's one by the river. Yeah, yeah, yeah, twenty taking the shop of being confused me to feel so you're giving me all the good ship. Yeah, Like alright, I'm a junkie cracking. He's like, let me tell you why and what ko d Be talked about? Told about the costcos

Ko d the big one because that could confuse him. Man, that should just be too big, you know, like you'll be searching, you be, so you'll be taking five minutes to walk around to say a bathroom when they say you to another exit another Like Jesus, she just like really walking through costcos just motherfucker's I'm gonna add one to this. Um Sugarhill DJs, get install DJSON. I'm drinking sugar little Family, yellow stops my family. If you could have said any other name, we're here to drink. I

gotta ask, how then did you lose your voice? I had a flu for like three weeks. Are you're just telling us now a man I got was it was the flu that wasn't cool? It was not the flu the flu I was not ready. We had to drink, he said, both I did I drink. She took my couple with Okay, now you got the next one gun player of Briscoe. No, he skipped, don't we can go back. We can go back. Okay, mo bad you have those boats, don't play or Bristo. Those those guys right there that

made the crushes up, not me, my dog. I mean thank you because they got to be on the Crib album too. I know, right, yeah, I drink of that. So look shoutout Triple Seeds and Pull. You ain't gonna love a hip hop Miami. They don't like me now. I don't know though that I'm saying. Come on, let's talk about it. They're gonna see this. Yeah, they're gonna they're gonna see this. They don't know no, no, okay ya did time back to the crib. Okay, yeah, but

some people don't know. Man. You know what I'm saying, what I learned in the day's coaches, all algorithms and you know, hotness on the you know what I'm saying, Like me, I'm I'm in DNA of Motherfucker's saying and then the niggas right chill J Okay, we already asked them the Yeah, Briscoe, he took a shot to that. Man. All right, um, but Briscoe got this song, and I love bitch on Me, bitch on me my song. Go ahead, okay, Mansion or Cameo, that's a good one. I had fun

in both of them. I think. I think by the time I got up, though, I think Manchon was it because they gave me all the love. Like when Camio was popping, I probly was a little nigger, you know what I'm saying. And then by the time I got up the mass Yeah, I managine, man, just getting managine, I drink just color that. We got a lot. We are longless you're doing before that. You gotta do that bull flow rider. I love both of them. I'm drinking

of that. I love both already know what we gonna end up like, like really love these guys, like, yeah, you look niggers, all right, Carol Marr or USA Fleet. I'm from Carol Mar, you know, but I hung out to the USA. But Carol Marn mother Okay, alright, honey thirst Market before it was Carol Mark honeylet Market US US one free market down south. Yeah, huh. You gotta ask this one which is trigger ross people was protecting you your any topics like drink. They sacrifice your living

for the relations chick relationships, and I respect that need. Look, I wouldn't do them, but that's a good we have to throw over the right want to think about it. We're gonna end up drinking anyway, but over the yeah, right now, n w A O Woultan Clan damn man because you know I was on that in their wayship. But then enough First of World came out all right boom, the first Flue album when it was all them nigga six chambers. Yeah, anything after that, I ain't show them

too much, you know, like when niggers come in. They come in Hurrah and then everybody gets famous and do all the ship and ship. But that very way it was n w A. They were consistent. I respect that Drey had them boys. Okay, yeah, the Source or XX album probably the source. We don't go properly, it's the source the Okay. I respect that I have friends over though. Okay.

MTV raps or Rap City, that's a good one. M TV roster beginning, right, that's the beginning out of culture rapes when they started pop tune you know, will be the music Box and the Boxers before and we had the boxes down with the box of down. It was in Miami, right, So did I answer the question the questions the question at all? You know? Ros Ross ship, so the rap sitting with Joe Claire. A lot of people say, big Tigger. I like the fact that you

went to Joe class and big Less, big Less. You know, I'm gonna big people don't don't necessary shot, we don't even know what we again, pick the culture, that's it, check manes or cheetas. I'm gonna going tested though the fry lost and all that ship start you. A lot of people say, lemon pepper invented in tutsies. I really don't know. Rumor has it Lemon pepper invented in tutsies, Lemon pepper wings. Yeah, so the season and that's how to Night they just invented that. Yeah, I don't know.

That's a little crazy. I don't know. This is your room. They made it popular. Maybe they made it popular people from out of town, all right, but then I ain't heard of them. Pepper the Ross say, limon pepper my wing? What what is that now I'm just playing. That's South ship and the main't gone. Okay, Kodak Black or ball gueasy wow greeting my little brother. Yeah, I think you'a the young goat man. Me personally, I just my own

thing to be too. Yeah, I just think any of you where he said, Man, I like fly like like time like fly like fly like like nigga like that. I said, I don't understand that, but for some reason I understood that. Right, what's understood. That's one of our people that are he got that ship all right, so we when were this one right here, you gonna might have to drink Rock Kim or caress one arm man. Okay, I love question Rock Kim or Big Daddy King both of them niggas as men, because you got one nigga

like this and you got the other nigga. Battle of the guards nigga. Let me figure this out. I'm here still the art man, you know. I look with the closest to the dope boy. He was the closest to the niggas I was seeing like Rock Camp. Yeah, rock can of niggas. I looked up to. What's more of him than like Kane, you know? But the niggas I looked up to, like the r Okay, that's crazy that he never cursed the rock him and his verses as wild and it was hard as yeah, hard as fun. Yeah,

Luke or master p Luke calmebram Man. But I love Peter Day Phoebe changed everything, change everything, But Luke the colbram Man. You know, thank I think for a little colbram Are you gonna you got the next two? Queen Latifa m c la, I'm gonna going light, next three? You got next four? Jesus Christmas, Billy Blewe or iceberg Bird went on my favorite niggas here and I love blue all right. Let me just say something. So I got Bergs was like my favorite yall niggers out of

the crib. Yeah, I'm like my favorites them till the niggers the crib. Yeah, from the crib. I'm gonna take a regular drink me and that we ain't drinking Pickolt grind mode. I love both. Bro. You're saying pick at the group or death flop pickle, Let's say the group. Let's go to the group taking shot drinking. Because when you said death, like every day ever you said death, like I right with this guy every day. Okay, Dad, you got the last one. Two poor boys, slipper slide,

slipper slide. We have the last two more. I'm taking it from the DJs. No, I'm gonna change this one though, is no jams are part of the six nine nine jam eat class of Ted Lucas. Yeah, yeah, I know he's school but um men, Ted de business man, he ain't you. We love each other. We hug each other. He called me Jeffrey, but nigga, we did visits me. I think it did a visit. Phel check. Look it ya all over it up so called drink drink. I'm gonna do the last loyal to you expect to everything else,

all right, DJ Caller DJ Epps. That's personal with man. That's like my guy. You know how you used to think else with Spanish. Ain't know that it was so yeah, I ain't know what it was that. I'm gonna give you one more DJ College or DJ Nasty, the Miami djam. Come on, that's my god, and that's what you said my part. I don't hate. I love Caldi, but I'm the same. You're talking to me personal. No, you just talking about free cal side of looking at the inside,

of looking at college, just being on. Yeah, say call right pre car just say cold and anybody somewhere else and I'm gonna say cowboy, you say nasty Epps. You know what I'm saying. You say, I'm like hell, you say yeah, I'm like, hey man, yeah, that's me. That's all that ship does me. Okay, So which leads you to Uncle out slick Vigor, discoe day Man down pointed Disco day Man. That's my ship. Mixed CD is clay d Gucci Crew. I'm do clay Dy though, because he

had the funts Man clady. Yeah ahead you and then oh it's the inspect uncle our jam Pony expressed me putting one D against the whole crew book. I know where you go. Are we talking about the CDs? Because jam Pointy got way more harder CDs and older funk. There's another generation. But no Alice my guy, you know, but Jampot And that's the culture, man, that's where all that ship come from. You know what I'm saying, Like, I ain't heard nobody rock the micy like Victim before Victniam.

I don't care who they is, who they say they'll something different. Jamp and master that ship like pictures just go day here things echo slowed down. That was his thing. But when it comes to that first was that, um the screw slow now right, But we didn't have them chopped and stool. We just had them slowed down. We didn't do the tech. Yeah, but these crews they all sped it up and put the music out and did run y'all get up. But that's what it is really

think about it. It's the speed. You seen your video. They got a chip on version of your video. They got running y'all out there, chi version. I don't want my Michael Jackson's. They got it. Let's ta for that motherfucker. They got it. Yeah, got real. This is the last question. Everyone thinks this trick question me and if does not loyalty or respect that I prefer that I give. That's a good question because they don't hear y'all. They think it's a trick question. Yeah, how about whichever way you

want to answer it, loyalty or respect. I think the respect gonna draw the loyalty. If you respect somebody, you respect it, you would be loyal to it. But if you loyal or something then you later on don't respect it. You're gonna be like that. I'm getting I think, like, just say I'm being loyal to the set right now. Then I figured out the set ain't the set that I thought it was. I lost respect for the set, so the former lose my loyer to right, But I

respect something and I ain't commit it yet. I'm tend to get loyal to it because are respected. Because that's just stay solid all the time. Sounds like a shot to me, sound like a shot. Respect Lord Tiers the tattoo, Lord Tiers the tattoo to these niggasigur both of them, and I was winning on both. That's why you gotta I got one more time, he said, and turn it into both. Right, I'm taking the first time we ever done this. I'm taking a double shot. I'm worried because

because that sucked me up. You approved one side and then you approved looking see it right, we put it all on the scale. We're gonna make it make sense. Okay, you're gonna take a double shot with me though I don't want to be outside with myself, and you do, right, So I'm alright, cool? How did minds get double shot? Like when I meant double shot, you put ice in it. Bro, No, I meant a double shot. It's double shot. Can we do that one time? It's my last shots? You don't

want a double shot. I'm shot. That's definitely a single shot. That's no. Oh yeah, I got that. I got that. Yeah, I'm gonna set it up. When I say go, then you go solo solo, solo solo. Yeah, we've been waiting to do this nor day. But I asked you who you would do a versus with. There's one more record that we would have to hear on versus immediately. That's gonna crush every one's bones. Let's go do it? Know that? All right? That was my New York ship, remember that?

But another that we're listening to um and a lot of people pointing this out to me that kind of said this is this is this is not us to kind of said that juvenile kind of borrows your style on huh. I heard that before. But I love juvenile to him, and that's all I'm gonna say about that because I'm a fan. But I've heard that before. But you know, and he ain't got number love and respect now.

He never came in you know he ain't said so, I ain't gonna say it them, but but but have you ever listened to it and felt a little bit of your influencing there? Well, like immediately like we was going through discography, soon as we heard that, someone said juven I got that ship from him, Like immediately, I'm bigger than juven He's say that, But I got another thing. How do it? Like certain ruggers I hear them, certain people, I'd be like, I ain't made that ship for me.

I said he had that Jake spirit on him when he did that, because I feel that ship like it's certain ruckords, different artists making that. Like I had to be right there with him because this ship feels too good, feel right, so some kind of way. So it wasn't about because you know we all really grow off each other, right, y'all know we we influence, right, But so with me, like, yeah, just go take you ever ever feel like it? Though, no, well not, I've heard it a couple of times, but

I never felt like, think a bit much. I never felt that all right, I felt like here doing it. But now I have been uh coming under my ship Nickel trying to sound like you and I like they want to say. They only heard of Junior and they never heard me say the world. You know, I don't do it though. The fingers, the chicken fingers, just saying come out right right right, right right, But I can't do that. Ship you hate that? Who that one more time? Who that one more time? Played the whole verse into

the that's chorus. That's even know what the one else as an artist? Yeah, you played the verse until the next chorus. No, that's the only one I didn't meet and I went to I went this first show Temple. What about ten house in the building and the gangs? The short is open up. I was the first show to Damn we were that at Coconut Gross. No, that's in North staying us hit that one more time? Will happened? You don't know how to read the instructions of English. Yeah,

playing in Dominican. I'm talking about what the bullshit party party in bullshit That honey in the back looking right there? Who all right? Now, man, I gotta ask straight up, now, straight up about the all the yacht. What kind of drugs was in this session? That's not the normal brother, that was his master. It was the energy man. But I did hear a story that I thought. I thought my story was the version, but the producer was on somebody else show and said another version of the story.

And I'm like, I don't remember because I heard that they try to get this to TLC. Oh yeah, no, I said that say this came in and said, you know, man, they heard it like they had they say they labeled on the cruise or whatever, you know, yearly thing and tones like, you know, man, Tone was working. He said, I let him play all that ship that you know

what's coming up for the next year. He said, yeah, I waited and I played your ship j The boat went crazy and then was like then Tone was over that again, and and l A was said, just get a nigga fifty thousand or something like nigga fuck down the motherfucking fifty thousand business. My think about it though, Just think about had you took that fitty thousand TLC with this man who I don't know how it went. Yeah, you should have done a remix with them on it

it possible. I ain't gonna lie, would you on the record. I don't know what. I would have just did the hook. But see now you weren't getting the anniverse. No, this forever has to be his record. But I'm asking what if what if you would have just gave it away? What? I don't know. We would have had to see what if I would have out of halft. But but I already got hunting from already got a hunted from him. I don't need it out to fit there, you know

what I'm saying. So how does this happen? They own the boat, they play the record, and then they come to you and say that I wasn't there. I know when they came back your tone said yeah, I played your ship and it went crazy, and UH had to ask. I knew he was gonna say that because I was like, let me come to you and say, uh, we get feet thousand for the whole record, but you well he told them to say that I won't that rather, and

he's like, man, I can't do the man right. They just getting fift out or something that's I'm like, well, I wish I was there for that conversation. Wow, No, nigga, how about fifthing me and let's talk about it. You wanted that bad at least, nigga. You know what I'm saying. You would have gave him the whole record. If listen, man, I would have promised the bits of hunting thousand come of bits. I need to do something. I'm hunt this

nigga not even stopped drinking. Man, I'm drinking. Man, I'm drinking. I'm drinking. I'm drinking. Man drinking. Man. Let's be back there making the record. So yeah, y'all in the studio. This beat plays. No we hang out the night before. Okay, Now this is my version of the story. We're hanging out and you know, we gotta set up, you know what I'm saying this before making the rain and all that. But we got balls, we got pictures. You know. We're

in the club. Hum, it was called the General Club back then in they weren't that right downtown about to marry Markey's right club Club one twelve as well, was that no gentleman club? Okay, gentlemans you see, but um, we love we love that motherfucker Block three. Four in the morning, all I know knew called me. I think I got home by five in the morning, calling about nine o'clock, like, but you gotta get back to studio, man. We got this record, man here, so I jumped lass up.

We get there, and that's what they had on the thing. They had the hook, they had the yah yah part. You know, I just added my harmonies and the beats playing y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all. Yeah who that. Yeah, none of that was done yeah, just the high yeah yeah, but they had to It wasn't done right. He had. I guess he had the idea because I remember building it. You know, just a certain certain voices that's not that's in nothing now that way. Get your mom to hit

it because it remember me back. Let's get this makes motherfucking mo. Motherfucking left you out. This motherfucker got that live resident You're gonna be sucked up. I'm throwing that out there right. I anticipated, but I anticipated, but you're in the studio. He only got the I And how how do you put this together? What's the first thing that comes to your mind? Do you if you remember, well, we were talking about the night with Vogue while we're

hanging out. We got it's going. It was just different dudes coming around, and I can remember who that that's your man? Who that is? So that's what I'm thinking. They got that different because I remember these conversations the night before, so who that? So? Who that that? We liked this I set up looked like this because now the only new people, you know, it was phonecasts with us, right, but now a yeah, they're just starting to come up.

They're coming up, they're moving in, but they're moving in, you know, like the buses. That's just people come around us, like we don't know who that? Yeah, we know what that was. I should have made it. Yeah, take it, take it to the next level. So when they were like, yo, I'm thinking that's what we're going. So that's why my verses was, well, who that off bering? And they're like, we're trying to hang with the click flows in Like you came with the click, but would you bang with

the click if it were thick? Or do you just ride? Dick come play? I don't know you're nigga, tell me who you're with. If you you're bound against us today years old, when I took a board, running my hands, running y'all run this us, I know us, and I'm in my mind it's us against everything else going on. But so now when high see so comfortable that else to you, like that's you got us like. You know

what I'm saying that, Yeah, who that? So you know we got laying on niggers, turning out backs and to take our ship, you know whatever we doing that weather that way I was at. I don't know nobody else that way he was than that before. Yeah, the night before, Oh, I was asleep, three hos a sleep. I'm gonna go seeing like you gotta come back. But we got this record. But seeing that boom. Trigger got a version of the story. He said he'd been had that beat, you know Trigger

story one who produced it? Okay, he said he'd been had that be he didn't try it. All kind of different robbers on it, but it didn't come out right until we did it. Now, I ain't know nobody in the world ever heard that before. I thought this night, having we had a good night, you want the studio, couldn't sleep, let's see it and called me back. That's my version of it. You know what I'm saying This version is he gave it to Yeah, well he didn't

get nobody ship. If he fucking wanting they come through them dropping, if they ain't snapped, I guess he's going to erase it. The leader or whatever you know, what's it like, I didn't have been making mine. You know, Puss made for give me to drink TNS. Baby's just drinking, drinking, drink drinking. So hey, somebody came in with an extra quick time of slime. They said, mad Ballozy, Wow, Big ram Boom, Nigga's that's yeah, Mike Fresh, motherfucker, Devil Drugs Nigga,

Mike Trigger. Nigger niggas ain't slick all the members Devil Drugs, mad Ball, Big Round, Mike for j T. Money. But then he had shot and then he had trigger. You know, these are the non wrapping numbers. You know, this is more faculty. They had little branches of where it was. Chain. Ain't like all this out ours up today there on crew, you know what I'm saying. Mad Man was with them at first, but then he was like that ship. Yeah, yeah, this is pre dates of course. Yeah for me, I

don't know. I don't know, actually, I don't know when if they were saying what I'm saying, clan there before we heard it, you know, Okay, yeah, but I had heard Poison Clan before when you all heard who I'm saying. Yeah, I was on the second album to be the third one by then, let me tell you that take appiccially come out. Let me let me tell you the fall

on the other clan. Who I was like if Luke would have dropped the saint and not because remember we had to wait a year because Professor Griff came down when the controversary opposed right, because we were the poor black and the green. She said, young brother on guard it for us. Three right here? Yeah, shame many. Yeah, so I'm gonna push it back now. Three check out the avenue. You know what I'm saying. Did you know that Professor Griff from Public Enemy was signed the loop records?

Hell no water year And I found that like Cripps gonna come out before yea, what we usually gonna hid it like like I could say, I'm only was his name his name? Yeah, but remember he had some controversy. That controversy was the only one that would take him. Yeah, he was like the person yeah for lack of a better term, Yeah, I mean all right in terms of what's going on to such if that happened. So we waited a year, but that was the only other clans like all right, and we can't even say they heard

us and then they made up whatever clan. Yeah, yeah, it wasn't no clans. At one point y'all thought that the wolf ain't clans. No that said I said, we couldn't have said like, we couldn't say like fun an ourld. There wasn't no other clans. It wasn't no no other clans. But then what time when this clan came on? I think they record came before because we had to wait. We had to wait, Yeah, we had to wait that year time. It would have been eighty nine, right, so

I couldn't say, oh, I'm nigging. But again, we was into that music, so we liked that ship anyway, what the kids. But did y'all notice how they took all that music away for once though? Well you can't even be download that no, yeah, but just all that type of game, just the difference of us, all our different shades and hues of wherever we are in this you now kill kill people music, man, there's no let's sell

dope nigga and our clothes nigga. Even even y'all looking around doing the research, you always had that base like as a first single, and then you had them some other stuff and then even just the process of making an album. We try to have a record like this. Now we need something like this. Now we need something like this. Now it wasn't whatever that single was. You do tena those or try to make ten of those same records. Yep, that's proof. They don't give a funk.

This is like, Man, if that ship work, keep doing that. Don't be no artist, don't try to express yourself. Don't trying to be creative, nigga, this is what works. Stick to the script. That's the game. So it's easy for nigga. Alright, picture the whole. If she all, she gotta have been over and there's some annoy emotion. Money I never even seen you. You understand, I'm saying, you're like, okay, my four dollars, give my dollar. You know, body, no matter,

it's easy. But but if you're motherfucker with some integrity. Indeed, if you if I'm an artist and I'm serious about my ship, if you're some Erica blad dude, remember that line. You got to be here to notice. Man something, I'm serious about my ship. If you like that, it's like, oh, man, I hate but don't might gonna hear that? How do you know? What the funk they want to hear because we sold this on your last time A little bill. Who to say, I can't sell this to the this,

the Moorrow whatever. Man, I don't know, but it's the game. I understand business. I ain't no hater of business. But you know I like freedom, but you question independent. I like independent. If I wake up one then decide I want to slide to the left. Yeah, I can do that, to the right. If I could do that, girl right whatever where you know, because you don't know what Listen, man, all right, you're shooting that now, you're throwing rocks at me.

If I just keep going around, you're gonna keep hiting me. Right, I got a fake one time, A dug us up right, then they think this ship it's real life, man, So let me ask you, right, because I thought I made the best skit of all time, and then today I found out that some people it wasn't what what what? What? What? What? That's a different things about you. It's about you. It's about you. Hold on, hold on now. I got a story about that record. Right. Somebody told me today you

have one of the best skits of all time. So I had to go research it. Do you know what skit I'm talking about? Why must I change the cat? That's what they're saying. What does he say to feedback out of a story for that couple? And actually made that? So you you heard this room where you understand it's a possibility in the whole game of rap, you might have made the best skit of all times. You know that, No I was They said I was good at it. They say, Jay, you don't do that ship, No my

wi and do it. I'll say, y'all, ain't listen to that? And no more, y'all listen a single the first ten seconds of a rocket. That's all y'all want to hear. Y'all want to hear what led to the rocket? No more the skit? Or was dumpe? Excuse me bout the piper hole ship? You pussy where he just want to get hit bitch? I'm sorry, man, forgive me, y'all, I'm sorry man. Drinke shout, drink shout. But now did y'all get what I'm saying? Okay, forget what? Just no four

play four play? How about that? That's cleaner you had with y'all? Man. I figured whoever editing gonna cut, but cut, but you heard that. That's that's one of the best kids I have heard that. But then there's other Well, ain't going to sell those because I got I got

Pimp versus USA interlude as well. Obviously you like Chase the Cap better, right, No, I don't like I was just I think whatever I was doing make the record makes sense, or make the like if I did this and I feel like it needs something like you're like, no, that ship is it? But I'm like, let me put

this before so it can make sense to me. A smooth transition, you know, a ramp or shade whatever it is, though, but make you feel good versus uh, a prick when you getting you know, sometimes they squeet the ship and they sticky or they just stick the motherfucking like ship here or I got aout you now, let's like a ship I mean yeah, I mean for the start ask the question. I'm like that, But there's another one of the joints wrap ass nigga. Yeah, man, I think I

think everybody in the game would appreciate it. That right now, that ship that work at work right now. I thought that was right, and you gotta think about it. That some people. I don't know. That's all right, you shouldn't mind your been with that ship. Yeah, but I could do that. I mean there, I told you they could bring you back, put you back on top of all the life. We don't will I'm in here to tell you I don't even want that. I'm like, let's stop

being stupid. Man. They just wrap ass that wrap ship. Yeah, well you were gonna say something about super thug. Yeah, my ruggord life. I could be at the show right like I could be whatever I was at certain records that my nigger waiting and knew what to play like you could play what what what? And I could be like the to come Home and I'm like this back whatever the funk that was. That's the ship we was on. That's the end of the chat. What but yeah, I

don't know if you'll remember. Want to mix tape part This is what it sounds like when we ride on It's serves songs. I will lift up to them degrees corporate thug engine like it's serves song. Like the niggas thought about me when they made these records. Man, face the noise for that got that they thought about me when they made these records him up. Take another shot. Oh damn, they already got me filled up. This is great, that's all right. Two week y'all noticed how i'd be anyway,

So y'all ain't gonna get me drunk. I'm gonna get your fun. Let me just tell you something. We waited for this moment right now because you know why. I'm a born and raise New York guy, but live out here for fifteen I'm I'm going on six teams. And I adapted the Crib. The crib adapted me. I love it. The show was born out here, Miami. And the show

was born out in Miami. And from the moment we started this, they said, you gotta give j T money his motherfucking flowers and let me just finish in our profits. And this is an honor. Um. We wanted to make for a special moment to give you your flowers at

a special time because I'm gonna be honest. I had to do research, research because I wanted to really like, let you know, I know we know each other and you you guys know each other, but this is this is this is an honor pleasure, and um, we didn't want to fall short weight than you and this is your motherfucking house. Did your motherfucker well, no, no, no, take that shot oudamn it, damn you take it around. Yeah, now, ain't got the funny bar, right, I don't actually seen

people tell you. Oh, but it seems like I'm bothering. I'm like, y'all hit them and hit them niggers, but don't know your fans they come out. No, no, your fans really come and let's just take time out to represent for your fans. The name of your fan club was everybody gotta name with their fan club. What's the

name of your fan club used? It used to be family because it was never just fan because like, alright, one thing I noticed that I'll be pulling it out there, the j T. Money thing fun funny, like, only niggas who fun with me funk with me if they don't, like if they on that rap ship and they don't know what they don't know, they're oh yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.

But the niggas who they think, oh brother, you know, like, only niggas who fun with me fun with me, Like, if they don't funk with me, stay away for like snakes and pigs and rats, they stay away from me. And pigs and rats. They're gonna stay away from me. They know, you know anyway. But what I was saying, want to take a shot because of that, peas and rats like pigs and rats stay away. I'm thinking about snakes and peas and rats. I'm like, what the fundas.

I don't think about the greatest peas ever with the greenest peas ever. So I'm like, God, my bad. Now they stay away. But yeah, that's just the funny part about it. So with that being say, like one time with the fans, they got to a point with me. Well all the reason I was still like, I still make records because the neighbor like, damn, you don't give us nothing else. It ain't like Nigga was like, man, get shot out of sit down there, gonna get you a job. Nig you need to quit while your head

and he lay down. They're like, damn, nig we're waiting on your years. So I would do something well outside of looking in, that's an inside of looking out. I don't know without the situation. What I'm telling you is you got real fans. Brother, like these brothers, these people, these people every day for six years, we're going on seven years, at least thirteen to thirty people that hit us there when you have jakes since day one. But listen,

that's the reason I worked. But just in case you don't see them, we see them for you, and they out there and we that's why we we really wanted to give you your flower and I want to. But day the reason I still work, Like you gotta think of people who started when I started, and especially in the position here because you know, again I was always on the dog like no label really knew what to do with men. So it was always about my record. My records is bigger than the artists. This song that yea,

I heard, that's something before. Oh that's who made us all. They don't know who made that's all. Listen. My fans are the reason I still work today. Like how many niggers started with me, came to get away free shows from me. I'm rocking with the motherfucker's they're still fam me show. Thank you you do you hear a funny story to my what what I forget? One time I was somewhere, dude bumps into me. He told out the

record being bigger than you do, bumps into me. I'll turn look at him the record, Come on, what what? He's beating me the whole time, like he made that got you singing my ship, Yeah that's why and beefing with me. And I'm looking because we all surrounded him and he didn't have no idea and we was gonna beat the shift out of him to my record as well. But I don't want to. I ain't want to. Definitely walked away. I definitely was like, all right, I got

one with that. Look I don't I think I'm so good today, right, I gotta all right, I don't tell them if I said, fans really don't give a funk. They want what they wanted, even if they say I don't means I don't want to don't funk. They want what they want or some fans ship. But nigga, hear you record, you know what you would And then to say, well, damn, nigga, what about that what you were talking about? You gotta say what you mean were you're looking forward with? But

I'm so good. I got a way of talking to a nigga and and they'd be like like, yeah, you see ugly that she could have got coming. Let's go get a drink, man, right, but you said Ugly could have got but they they don't give a fuck. But in the mind they they're trying to impress you, and they're trying to impress and tests that don't even see maron this ship don't make sense. Do you want to impression meent you want to test me? What what we're doing? I'm confused now because but I'm so good at it now?

Hey man, yeah, nigga, yeah, look, flip it on you see right, Ugly right, don't worry about that. Come man, let's go have some fun, man, because that's why we're here. You know, other time, who you came to see? You know? If I say that's something? Who you came to see? What? Never? Man, all this everything, we late back to a song with me anyway, just case y'all ain't know. I might always talk and then it's gonna go like a lyric or something. Let me ask you one more too real that girl,

m who is that? That was a chick name evil? But originally it was a chicken name or lady Cartel trick from Jacksonville. But dn that's a good one cause see, not nobody in the world ever heard it. So let me tell you all this story and I did the song originally with the chick from Jacksonville. It was cold. It was cold then um, before that came out, I

got fulled up, locked up again. But tone and the chick chick with trying to cut a deal behind my back without me, like, oh, Nikka Nicke still you know he can't tell me why they do the guy running this ship nigga, I say, so, you know, I didn't do nothing, but you know she was called and it was a violation of that. They did a deal. But then while I'm locked up, they do whatever they do and they fall out. So now you want to put

another bit on the feeling the blame. If you'd heard the original, the record would have been way harder, like I didn't change my lyrics to feel like because it was just good too, because you ain't heard the original. That is why the idea of the song is that but if you had heard all right, who that you might say the night before the live and everything just makes sense when you listen to it, you see, because ain't genuine trying to kill you? To him, you want

what you want to try to kill you? Man, I used to do this was that the man with my god, and it was giddy. We wanted me to want to meet them, like to be finished out the what do you? You know what I'm saying, and then you know years later they're married, you know kid? But oh yeah, I'd about to say there's finger popping, but whatever, you relax. But I'm just saying I think we was in the Bahamas, Niger.

It could have been hotel. That's how last I read it on the highest probably I don't know what specific alright was coming right here? You don't remember that night listen shows and are you saying on dream Champs, I'm saying, not only did you have so late on the record, but you had you introduced so late to Jinia one

you got damn right. And I'm saying it on dreams Chop they came to me her dances and a friend and they're like we want to man, and then whatever it was because we hadn't done a few shows and like, bro hey yeah because and he was on the Pony at that time. Problem you know, he right? But I'm just saying, but because because you know, you got a picture, a lot of people they always just ask about what about you on solo? I'm like no nigger strictly, it

was never no nothing. And because lay was signed to L. A. Reid, right and you were signed the producer. That's how listen who that. I originally did three verses to who that? So you didn't have you didn't want so late on the nose. I didn't know her yet, Okay, I didn't know her yet. Then when I did it checking them, was like, yeah, bro, he just put my female on that. Like while we was working, he didn't play that right. You know, you're in the student with somebody, you hear

what they're working on the order. So I heard a few songs and uh, and then he like, mad, you let me put on on that hookboy, you know, put a female on that. I got this order, and I'm saying, I said, well, let me see the picture, let me see him, okay. Because because we were bos old men back in the days, we bought Little Kim's album because she was spread eagle. We bought. We bought because she was. She had not so much that they didn't need to do that. Okay. So with that being said, it was

just like what ship, let me um see. And then when I saw him like she had run that ship. Then they did it. We cut my first verse. Listen, I did three six teens on that song, but then I got a eight and a twelve and then yea thing. You know for mat I've been doing regular before three six season. I was doing until we finished rapping. You know. We wasn't selling beats and hooks back then. Yes, you know, but I'm from the era when they thought rat was

gonna die, but this she gonna fade out. This ain't gonna lad. That's a fat yeah from that error. So we ain't had no form at no, you know, four minutes, not two minutes, niggas regular sale minute. I'm from that era with the hare eight minute records, but we didn't do that. But still a man, I'm just saying man. And the classic was boy yeah, managing consettas man. But how did you introduce hard to Jue one? What happened?

Was that a show? I think we were right. It was getting ready to rock or he just got through rocking. They wanted to say hello, and ge one he did. He was riding his pony. Yeah, he probably like, hey, how y'all doing, what's up? Girl? What you're doing? You know, say whatever you're doing? And I don't know what. I walked up. He just brought him to, said, y'all, this is y'all, and y'all not y'all. Yeah, because we brought

up all right, boom, I came with three chicks. One of them or two of them want to meet you. I'm gonna let them eat you. My one that stayed about she wants because she could meet you too. He told my team, you want to ask about whatever, whatever, whatever we're talking about. Just trying to make I'm making this it makes sense. Yes, I like this. I'm the Hey man, it's my brother. You know I'm playing and let's have fun, you know what. Not a note, But

I'm saying nothing. They got nothing to do with nothing, man, and real, what's gonna stay? Man? You know what I'm saying. Forever lives before a moment. Just forever lives before a moment. When the smoke cleared, the truth gonna still be here. So I'm not how much smoking mirrors no matter what they do when the wind blow, you're nigga, man, your dog. You know what I'm saying. That's all I'm said. Man,

in the name of love, of course. But y'all laughing that they laughing that man in the name of whole problems, right, whoever name that? No, that's that's the name of your songs. Yeah, because hope problems ain't no problem. But now you whole one to go. Let us gotta like this because listen, all right, that's one that's one of the funniest records right on that same I got all right, I gotta tell you, I'm just tell you. I'm gonna tell you why I gotta tell him, just tell you. That was

one of the records. I didn't care who liked that, But I'm picking this one from my album for me. But did you have a hole that was ready to go and you had to let her go? No, that's just the situation of life, all right. When I when I when I first see now, I gotta take you all the way back to the bitch eude, I gotta take you back the poison plan. Like they say, I changed the mind state of niggas in my state. Do

you understand ours? So now, Neggacy, like we already got enough to deal with men, we can't have these problems here as well. Like listen to a bit tight enough either with mill you ain't like come on, man coming out and I think you fly. I think you're raw girl, and I'm willing too, But bitch, I'm not hitting the gas and the brakes at the same I'm not trying to spend out. It's a mindset, all right. So with that I already did. I mean I did to push

your pad. No, I already did the it's the song the bit child is born, right, So now there's Poisons, not j T Money solo. So now when I do Whope Problems, I'm thinking, I don't know who liked this song because they like who That. They're like, Hope Problems that, I mean not Hope prom They're like, uh, who that? What the shoot there? With Big Girl, They're like all right, They're like, you know they like these songs because that's the vibe they was on the industry people who that

had a funny song because they dropped who That? And I don't even know what the second song alright on the album, which it should have been something about pimp but the priority, Yeah, they were like, no, man, let us do it. Ma'm tag it's the record is commence him to say his head something out like but we're gonna drop who that. We're gonna drop some of my penman is that I'm gonna go. They want to drop all right, because it sounds almost who that ishe is

that crunk ship. Still it was still crunk, but now we are artists because I want to do something like this. I want to do something like that showed the verse and tell us what different audiences. I ain't trying to stay here with these kids like your uncle Jay Hill, but now your brother here, you know more of us. But I feel like I'm just going right m boom.

I was trying to say it's a funny song because listen, I was doing shows and then based on the hype of the algorithms at the time and whatever wild they wanted to hear that. So then I will get through me through the shoreline from the dealer. They're like people still waiting, like nig you're not gonna do the whole prow doing, like how you gonna not do. I'm like, oh, y'all, like this song that same ship happened to me here would run the yard and them songs like the reason

I get booked today. I'll y'all look at the body that the day because it's the truth. I get booked for whole proms and run the yard Chevy gang who that hollow shaped your mama gave you? Oh that's bonus. That's actually like, oh shit, he did that too. But they'll niggas on the street. They want to hear used to build nigga everything. They want to be in there to go. That's the reason they booked me the Day and Kite the Boy. Like the certain songs, I can't

go know what and not perform. I'm gonna funk what knew I'm trying to do. It's gonna be like, yeah, whatever Ja niol I was waiting there my song we pi Ni We paid you for my song? Nick? Like quite just this what I'm giving you. I just said, how fans don't give a fun fun of your mo problems. Kite to the Boys to the point, come on, stop to stop doing my interview for me, Kite to the Boys my next conversation. Yeah, so you know saw when ye stop, stop stop selling my interview. Come on, Kite

to the Boys. Oh yeah, what's ship? That was it? That's actually a real let I tried to send home to the boy. That's when I violated my probation. When I was sitting in lots the Federal Well I went on praying with then yeah, the second, second or third time. The last three or four times was avoid The first four or five times it was stupidess Now I'm just playing a little um. Yeah, well, I was just that that was a story like uh, kite of the boys, Mama, dearest, father,

the son. Those really letters I wrote back home and I son her home. But and I wrote it lyrically. But then Niggas was able to see it, like all right, he got something out of each other, Like hell, you don't tell your stories no more. Man, you know, I'm so busy trying to say nick, I'm so, and so, I'm this, I'm that. But they all just that rap ship. Yeah, instead of spending them stories that ship, we know, facing them mama, talking the story. So that's what my people saying.

I used to do for them vividly. It's so that's kind of one of those stories. Like they don't been locked up. If they get locked up after they heard that song, they know how to do their bid. That's all that. If I go to you after hearing this song, I know how to survive. And we talked about right to the balls to the boys. Yes, but then then they could also take run of yards. Yes, run the yard that was supposed to be on straight zwo wasn't. I did that record three times before I came out

that way. I never throw away that good ship. Listen, I'll be waiting on the right beat. Because there's certain things you even know you don't know, there's certain things you know, And and that was one of them records. Man, I did that ship three times before came out the motherfucker's And that's that live resident there too. That's that yaka, that's that y'all are here showing how it looked like. It looked like a little bit Shan looked like the

the the rass Sean Sean look there bringing out on them. Yeah, Sean, Yeah, it looked like it looked like it looked like I'm a Miami nigger a whole when you look at Yeah, it's something about the beautiful packaging. Y'all just said, y'all can see on me, some some good package. I'm about one for me. I'm about wanting to hang over. You know. It's not light ladies in June. Yeah, if please take that for yourself, take that for yourself. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,

holy motorcock, I got so much more. All right, cool? Oh take with your mama gave yeah, man, yeah, that's such a classic. Man. First time looking took me to the strip club in Atlanta. Now what wait, Luke, wait, you went your fast. You just said the first first time you ever went to a strip club with lou No right, And I stayed in the car at verst time. Then then we went to the second place. Then I went in. So what was the first place I went to? I don't know what was the second place that you

got into. You gotta remember the finger pop could have been I don't know someone, No, no, it was an Atlanta's earl. That's not magic snyone could have a second place, could have been Magic City. Okay, but me, you got me coming out to a little like Mothers. I'm seventeen, probably just turned the eight team. But you've been into this. This is your first time in the strip. First pack jam was like a strip club down there? No not then they then no, listen, what the funk I'm going there? Fun?

Just get some bits my money. I'm not I'm just crabbing. I'm tight. I don't know whatever we was on we was short. I wasn't. We always had button girls and mamma. So we're asking when they just walk around with so I don't. I'm not understanding the process, touching, year rolling, then I going now and I and I enjoyed myself. It's beyond you. Just give me some bits of money. You can't take it with the conversation, what divide whatever it was that you around other money, other moneys, because

you know we are around the same little hood. You know, ye, no things can advance you over here, but over here the whole another world to see another, a new color, a new shade. You know, I'm saying, I ain't even gonna go into the mission or a new shade. That's it, look at. Anyway, came back home, he go to little holding over the sprech see letting me seem good that it went like it was like I was at the club every week. No, they got went that night and

that was like hoping over the spiritch. But see, listen, I'm gonna tell you about to be devers. Steady gave me three beats. I picked this one. He said, no, you can't get that. Look. I said, why the fund you gave it to me there and I wrote it to this bear but through interventions, and he said, no, I wanted on this beat, and this is the beat that made it boom kaboomoo booms. You understand like it was beyond what I thought or what he thought. Listen, man,

tell of my game. I picked this beat. I wrote it for this. I think this will be here. Luke powder did um work it out and shake it up or some ship on it was sound like the regular typical money based ship. This one sounded like Portland Clan j T. Money. That ship was like ghetto foul. It like boom, like if you had played the instrumental for a nigger. If he could hand it, he can handle it, but he would not. You can't say no soft ship on that. You can't say no pussy ship on that nigga.

You got to get in that full then get that. You can't play with her. She bad, I'm bad. But that's those type of the regular club into a strip club. And he got the funny part. Who that was the biggest I worked the longest. I'll shake with your mama game like I still play that now and we eat. Yeah, that is if I'm doing the show. It just you getting boyd because you're getting you get brother. You you're watching the sea, You're trying to give it your old

college try. But now this single woman and I'm gonna drop that motherfucker like, oh ship, shake with many shame man, but who that was the biggest. But I worked the but who that came and left the next year. You gotta think about how the game was. You have a new nigger next year these rugs who that came and went? And and I stopped doing it in my show because I was still doing a whole problem. Shake your Mom and gave you push it, you know, the street song.

Then I wait five teen years and I drop it again, like oh ship. We like we missed that, but it was so over stur player were like, I'm thinking that's are you in your mind? You're thinking that's the last song before you leave? And shake with your Mama? Gave me that's a that's a Luke sample no me and devastated everybody thought the hook without devastating to do who made the bet? Yeah, you don't think that was maybe one of the last real based, Miami based records that

came out. It feels I don't like to take no credit, but I just love to hear people's opinions. It feels like and in the conversation of good ship, I like to be there. I think that's one of the last Miami based records that came out right that was kind of authentic, like yeah, versus trying to don quick. Uncle came out with his record after that, but don't go out as a DJ. It's not trying of necessarily right what I mean he was, but you know it's different.

But I think came with holding the House right after there's some holes in this house and then do the Brown? Where do the brown? That Baltimore that Frank Ski No, not a no, he says it in the record. Okay, he says, but the one you were saying that, Yeah, you're thinking of dude dom due Doom, Due round dude that Frank Now I love it all. Yeah, that what you said, Baltimore. And then he made me take a

tough crew. That's that's we're tough Philly. Why did you say that I was gonna tell him Philly niggas that I was gonna talk to my Philly niggas and met the Philly nigga. Y'all want to watch it like Nigga, Nigga, Philly, Nigga, tough creel bit rock on that classes thing. I think, think, think, think it's so damned but all this record that down up I felt like it was day County. Let me say,

Philly bit they count should we loved it. But really right up here like rings out here to the confusing, they don't know like better have my money broke down here, they kind of ghetto don looting them. They made the bacas big. Listen. I know the lyrics man he plays, so I might wrap the whole motherfucker's but listen, I was waiting on my time to talk to Yeah, you're nig Philly. Yeah, nig you don't know tough crew bit all boss stadium nigger. That was done too, but rock on.

I don't know my little ice dog client, and I was the kind of about the whip. I don't know what to do, but I got a shot. You gotta play that shot. Shot a little bit. He'll pay your mama. Yeah, come way back. Let's hear this man. Listen, I got one more feeling thing now I'm going out this. That was the filly thing Nigga PSK school. It d resonual Gate Corse, I don't care who say what Nigga ps K school to deal with Nigga trying to get for setting nig I shoot you dead for suthing Nigga Nigga school.

That Davis, that was that was on the hardcore ship with a lot of people. But that nigga was got some through some chase, some coke. Tell you no, brother, say no, Joe, that'sn't cool. He was out there, Hey, that nigga was in the streets and that was what are you doing here? And that he had ship. Shoot, I should have brought it, but I said from my finish stir. Besides, when I went to Pittsburg and Nika sound that they were from London. As a kid like you're not too cool, I'm like, well, I think a

way we are. But like Pittsburgh from London. And when y'all did dance on night, did y'all know y'all to hit? Well, we thought that was just one of those regular like and that's gonna be our Miami record, Like we know the work in Miami. We're not thinking about outside. How far did it it went? Everywhere? Right? Really, I'm kid, it really did remember being in places right and you got a picture of Miami and it was new and

the Miami bass. Yeah, just the sound. So they looked at you got a picture of places me it was was not. No, they don't want to hear They're not They did not even used to hearing that ship. They weren't like like I was saying them the fights. I was fighting, we'll go out there and niggas be like yeah, like but they hurt, spoil ride like nigga do spoil right, and going like hell all this ship. And then it

got to a point where I really started doing thehing. Hey, yo, life's a bit so what now They're like, oh, ship, Now I got their tips because they won't here now walk out there. They're sitting down and they're just doing whatever they're doing around the stage and show you set us up from any real promo to a real promo that like yus that let they give a fucking weeks there, not like when y'all niggas we gotta we got the

full of men check how about that one. That's how I dared because they're never like, you know, man, the funk happening. You know what I'm saying, nigga think he got funder what the fund just happening? Thega trying to steal from me when they test my pocket bit and about of my pocket something. But yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's a metter to the man and man I always happen. It's just like nigga. Yeah, and there's another there's another question I always wanted to ask, especially the granddad you

just passed away. M Yeah, yeah, so, um you gotta joint there were you saying for the same exact the bitch that I hate, the girl, the girl that I hate? Yea. M who who said with that first? Mr Man? Mr Mik did that whole first album. It was his idea, David Hard Mr Man, the producer everything on Luke Regors at that time to Lave. He did all that ship. Then you realize you had the same beat, something new and before ours to him came up. Yeah we had it.

We had ours made. But we've been sitting you know. But still I who just saying how long the head there? It's one of my arguments. You can't you know, But yeah, he was talking okay boom he was was he was talking about himself and then was a relationship you I didn't the hole. It was a man and a woman. So yeah, I think that man and ship was always man and woman call and respond or little bit loving that wild ship go on for that. I like picture

everything before that. That's y'all thought was Miami base. I felt like close to him. And then picture that nigger right there, right that nigga that's not mean, just that nigger that whoever that got here doing that record. Who was that guy? Listen, instruct the pussy. We're not asked, We're not that nigga. His first line is hoping over to spreading. But she let the niggle see them girls

free tuck the ground, slap that. You're giving instructions to the pussy to see the pussy knees that the pussy I want to be wasted. The pussy don't want to be out here by myself doing anything. It wasn't need instructure. The guy who let me get that, all right, A second verse, fucking work for this money, hunting, stop faking. I want to see some real wood. Stop the grass. Instructions were begging up, we're getting this good ship. We're

getting this good ship. Bit definitely Miami ship. Yeah, but I was just talking about that guy. That guy I remember because when I heard it, I was like when I heard that nigga talking that ship back then in ninety one ninety two, I was like telling yourself, Oh okay, well it was totally ship. But damn, I got another shot right here. You gotta boy, yeah, boy, And they're gonna be the fort ever. So y'all gonna see all us like this bit. You know better. But he's power.

That's good. Good. You gotta give another shot. Whenever brother I go, I'm going with brother. We're not seeing nothing less hard. I just want to give your flowers. I see my nigger rationing. But you ever had that? You know what? You know what that is? But they make that in a tub and can do. But I just spoke to him and he's like, I said, man, just broke with that buck. Call it. Call it to make a commercial. Can do? My mama wanna people like like they made you got the shot. That's dope to me.

So if you ain't got nothing to do with it, we drink that because we like that. Because we trust us, we drink one. You know what what I'm saying, I don't want to say. They ain't names to get up, But so they ain't got nothing to do with our thing. Like if we smoke dirty, you you gonna see super clean or super clean. Just say super clean, just say non super clean, non process. I know people like that, right, Yeah, I love dirty girl lovers. I hung like that for

two days. Two days. You like the dirty girl love us. I probably was one. I probably was a love that two days. Well you're smoke to dirties with the dirt No, Now I was feeding. How does thank god? Yeah? Yeah, I wasn't that. How does this work? You say, can go to y'all? No, you said, and then you get right, you know how to roll up theirselves? Yeah, of course they're better. If you can't roll, then you ain't got

no bites. No, I telling you knew when they When everybody first smoing, I said, if you can't roll, you don't joint you're been smoking? Were talking about what this for me? I like, business man, you know whatever? Because his what's crazy? Now? People are rolling like the good weed whatever, the good cocaine. It's like, what's that called dely No, it's just you know, chad we with the good cocaine or the bad reason. But cocaine was because

it was a bad weed already. We found we could and we can think and feel how we want to feel, but they feel how they feel like like they're like, boy, y'all just don't know nig y'all ain't got a clue. Like we see up they're saying, yeah, nigga, but that's they're like shot that what you think? You know? So I'm just like man t is on whatever, motherfucker, but I right boom now I gotta bring it in to let's bring it and my family and my business and things like that. I mean, like, yeah, you know I

love you, but you can't come with me today. You know I love you, but you can't ride today. Well we'll be back, you know because i'mnna come back and funk with you. But but why they can't ride today? Because that my business that don't play in this like it might play all put you over and yeah and play all out here, but when I'm right here, because you know, I'm really responsible, but everything right here, I still love you. It's trial. But if you want to y'all,

you can't be around with y'all. One of y'all. Yeah, And that's just that like you came round here today. You know what I'm saying. But now I always ride there, but don't always be here. I don't always be right here. Yeah, just some ship like that you know, fell in. Honest is good, man, I'm saying again, let's make some noise for being honest. Yeah, that's so. She was just ever lives. But for a moment, I'm telling man, listen, man, let me ask you. We're learning as kids. Okay, go ahead.

If there anything you regret that you didn't do in this game. I want to regret some ship. But me understanding whatever I understand for this life and decisions and God and karma and me understanding what I what I believe. It's like, it is what it is like. There was certain situations when I had one of the hardest records in the country and people was asking me to do certain things. I'm like, well, I'm gonna I'm gonna stay paying this ship. They ain't paying, but they're trying to

build something I wouldn't do that. She said, you regret that, I want to regret it. Okay, I don't regret ship, because I'm here today and I'm still righting to be honest. Like I'm just just to we don't write what you're saying. One of the things that I didn't know was not not I regret it, but was I was doing features like um um, and I never knew you supposed to get paid for features. It was pun who was just

doing them. I was just doing it like whoever, who you fought with, whoever worked with me, and they wanted to do a record with me, I just did it. But I ain't nothing wrong with that, And that's an exchange sometimes. That's that's what I mean. That's why I feel like, you know, that's what it is like somebody else gonna use that again, you are you crazy? Well you should have, but they don't even know how far you're not taking that a little bit, how far that

took it. Actually in that area, it worked out for me, But everyone else would work out your wall can't did And if they want to be just men, don't let them fool themselves that. Yeah whatever, Just just don't be disrestresful. But you can be stupid over it up, you know, because it worked for me. I did that. I didn't oh man, I got I think all right. Even that play apart into the so called legacy or legend of j T. What don't you can take? You? What real nigga?

I mean, all right, boom, he was a better one. I go see people, I go places, and I'm always somewhere. Then I'll see motherfucker's who in position. I don't know him. They're coming me, like, but you don't remember me? Boy, you was and I was a little nigg and you said to me and you did, and I'd be like, well, thank god I was a real nigga, because if I was a nigger, you could have gotten you know what was in you. But I don't know if you love me because whatever I said to you or whatever, tear

for your mom and them back. Just ship like that. Thank God I was a real nigger. I'm still out there. But if I, if I did some fun ship, that was your chapter, right, So whatever, then I don't know if we're time. I don't know how he got there, but hey, it left me right there. It's happening that way.

Who your favorite West Coast artists is favorite West Coast They gotta be my w gotta be some shot, they gotta be cute, We gotta beno, gotta it, gotta be all the things that we know Okay, alright, and I picture underground Okay, boom, Now you're want to say an underground game. I like always like sugar Free when you talk about that Penla, because I think that was col you know, singer sugar Free with with with look like I don't see. Look we both did the same ship,

ain't I ain't seen that guy's cold. But then I've met other dudes, you know, and I think they're good. But when you want to say the favorite, they're good for what's going on now? I see them now fighting to fight in this era because right now I ain't nobody being until they say, until they say they be, like it's our boy, he's the man over ya, like for the streets, it's other things are still maintained, Like I think they'd be fighting the fight I fight, like

for some strang angry. I'm saying the reason I still get book a certain things, those particular songs and that like if I'm make a new one good for me. If I don't make a new one, I don't know about for me. But those songs is I don't know if it's a feeling or write a passage or like before you get to this sage, you gotta feel like this that you get over here, you feel it. I don't. I don't understand it. I'm just thankful and blessed for

how we got on that subject. I don't know, but I said I was gonna come talk to my brother and you said, you said you're working on a Poison Clan album. Definitely that tell us more about that album? Uh, independent obviously, Yeah, what's so far? Like if anybody feels free they want to do business with the fors and clans that you put it out, put it out there. Yeah, yeah, because you know I'm talking about there is no cast, you know, j T Money, Devin, their drugs, mad Ball.

You know. The only difference is we got new, a new young production production team and these are guys who did their homeworking was fans on and like, yeah, but y'all should can't like this now, Like just see if everything we want to do still sounding like nineteen ninety and they're like, no, nigga, put that conversation over. There's two thousand twenty phob respect that. Some ship like that, right, and we gotta respect that too, and then we we gotta respect it all right. I run the old niggas

who think they know everything. I know niggas. I know niggas raw with production right, and he's been doing Ship about twenty go to you and it gets to a point I'm so cool on home. I just had to get to are like, well, goddamn this My thirty two years don't mean nothing, even like and I got more accolades in just good at what you do? You think you know everything. I'm trying to tell you I don't know it received. I'm gonna tell you'll something that I

think that Miami people don't actually take it. This is my last shot. You got another one, my last one. I'm gonna tell you something that Miami actually doesn't understand. Miami could actually be like Houston, Texas, like as far as that, because like I in New York, we have barrows. We don't have cities like open Locker's damn his own city, correct, Hias, his own city, homestead is its own city, like like y'all.

And I'm saying this as an honorary member now, like y'all can sell Ship without leaving ya actual state different here than like doing that platinum in New York. But I'm telling you and the thing is we were doing that in the flea markets. It was happening out here. But the difference I think with Miami and some of those are places. Miami is constantly changing people coming from all over the place, and it is always changing them. But one thing he's never never changed. Across the bridge,

it's over. No. No, I'm talking about living here too. I gotta no, man, you have an influx of this group that comes in Venezuelans are these people, and I feel like it changes a little bit like Miami people. They never want to they didn't want to act like fans. I don't know if you've ever felt this way. Miami, Miami, we we never feel like we feel like we we all when I used to go to the Miami Heat games, when I first came here, when Love Broad came here. Oh,

let's just be clear. You have the most spoilss fans in the worst. As soon as the far wins, my four points is leaving because it's like, oh, we already won the game, like I've never seen that. You know, I'm a Knicks fan, you know how it is being nixt fan. We will lose by forty five, and Spike Lee was still standing right there leaving. We're not leaving. Miami fans didn't club live and the Great Goose Lounge like this taking shots. They're like, I don't have to

go to the concert. I go to the v I P And by the way, I've learned that from Miami. I've got to I got gortside tickets and I stayed at the Great Goose Lounge in the back because it was like club living. It was like go out there like yeah, and the game is still on and ship and not unfortunately as a part of the Miami mentality. That's very true, But didn't How about in the nineties where it was your book shows for us and we will come out here and the Miami crowd would be there,

but the New York crowd would be there too. What happened to that? What did it change? I don't know what I'm saying, Like, what what changed for we all party together? Yeah? That was a beautiful talk. I loved it. I think pop culture there that whoever put the divide on the eastern west, did the south of the and somebody did it. Somebody section it off so they could charge differently. Turning all over this sasons went off of that Sason for it off, saying the ball of sexually.

I don't know. I'm just that's okay talking. I ain't conga. They just like, no, you niggas came to be friends, nigging that nigga from over there here like I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna tell you, and this is it was at one point to come to Miami and I feel like it was Brooklyn in the house and people would lose their I couldn't stand that, not that I couldn't stand here, not you cannot go anywhere in Miami. Say it's Brooklyn in the house, It'll be a Miami

Jamaican that's from Brooklyn. Sex But where was boy? But they're proud again. It was like I was from Fifth Street. Lookes oh like if you was here that unless you weren't down saw somewhere closer to the girl now when you was in literal shits overlogger, that wouldn't have win. Now it was the clar divide it still because it was definitely southeast right. But what I'm saying, that's what that was. So there would be like that's where me

and my New York niggas would go, you know. But me and mine Overla Cash and niggers were over here and and the bottom. You know. I would take Madre that once in a while and I felt like, they don't worry about you with me, but nothing, none of this ship matters to you. You with me, that's all that matter. So we moved like that. Yeah, but there was no disrespect to New York. Is just you in your own city. You don't want to hear like, look, look we said. We both went to the Biggie show'd show.

We all went because he was hip hop has let me just let me just not like singled out Miami. I went to Atlanta on that same tour. I went to They had the same and I was like, it was Brooklyn in the house. By the way, I'm not from Brooklyn, from Queens, So it was just something to say. It was just at the time. So I would go to Atlanta like it brooke to the house and just the prais will go crazy, and was like, I know, these motherfucker's not from Brooklyn, right, But that was the

thing to do. That's at the time. We used to call me and my crew. We did a song called fake out of Towners. It was addressing that it was people that either they were from New York or they weren't, but they felt that that that was their identity here and we're like, yo, if you pay your bills here and it all due respect and all due respect. At that time, New York didn't seem like it ran the world at that time. In that's we're talking about the

outside of mind. That's what listen. It was that it was listen, man rao, I think cal ran movies and TV kind of way. And then when the they just got involved, you niggas had to figure out a way to work together, but it was still us still fighting trying to we want to get in the game. I mean, that's kind of my question. We want to get into is what, like you said, I love to do what you just said. You just said that Callie ran like the movie until Gaster Rap came right and then they

ran Gainster Raps. But the New York ran very much the industry. What is the state of Miami? I guess I'm gonna stay to you and then you can passed the e FN. What was the state of Miami at that time? Especially especially I remember me knowing that Miami is the mer capital at this time. But ya got shake with your mother and you got all this killed CROs to that bridge. You're gonna get killed. Let's say

you was blessed to know that much. Those with oys that couldn't see, they was getting caught up in it. Like the mentality at that time. We still fans up. It's just some of us who know what's really going on and something must you know, blind leading the blind sheep, some mus with she will. But like at the time, were they're trying to create our identity or you know, democratic, republican independent just us now you know what I'm saying,

East west, South, you know, were trying to create that. Yeah, that's what we were trying to do then. Yeah, but you know when the reality of it, it was still the culture. But they hadn't already put those monkers in place and did because you gotta think like like like I said, I went to school with a lot of New York niggas. Niggas we've been up and down. Do you understand what I'm saying, And that's it, that's it right,

they've been here far as I know. I always ran into a New York nigga to making these niggas a look, and being young, I didn't even know who was who until we got older. Then I started looking at the nigga Yeah, like I was knew that nigga Mama spoke Creole. I knew that nigga Mama spoke Spanish. I knew that nigga Mama smoked PATOI. But we was all the things I got in the until we get old, I see other family members. He started shaping starts the cheek balls.

You don't know that that's comedy, right, like damn man. Yeah, yeah, So let me ask you, you me, you know, going through this interview and you're saying how West Coast was influence you on you. Was it was it Luke who came to you and said we gotta go out these West Coast guys or was it something you guys already did in Luke co sign. You're talking about a particular song faking like games with Cows in content, which one had that little era because see right, but Dreda came

out first. Right, No, this is this this Gangsters we did on a little album. But we were talking about niggers in the industry period, you know, niggas faking like gangsters. Like even my lyrics was pretty vague. They were hard as him. Go listen, but it's pretty very pretty open like nigas faith you know, picture Nigga such. You know.

So then before the record has done, because it's the record, these niggers, I know, they did a skit these things out, no and they they calling niggers out and I'm like the West Coast guys like. But me, I'm like, when we started doing that, we're part of like as far as I know, Luca, the niggas was cool. When portland Land got on, we was cool with them niggers. They was it was them doing the shows against the world. Okay, so I don't say nothing they I mean for that

that's just funny. Man. Then Luke came in still like that night he heard it and he laughing. You know, she never liked but they had not made a disc towards Luke at this night. Yeah. Remember the record we did was vague. It wasn't calling nobody else right, you know, it might have been a last somewhere, but it was so vague. You know, you you're looking forward to you

ain't you know what I'm saying? What I um When the record came out, it was like you anyway, Luke allowed it because ain't nobody got to say so, but Luke Countell, he allowed it to go. So when that record came out before that and that they know the next year and then they did because they like like you and that that would have never happened if here said now, we're not doing that. But but I also heard him and them and them talking and they were

talking about yeah concert concert like pay per review. In my mind, I'm not thinking that. Say I'm still young and I'm with the bullshit. I'm not thinking I'm like, nigga, how are you going? And then like y'all played, Yeah, y'all Niggs played too, because I'm serious, I'm gonna stay first, you know. And the first interview they had a K's on there like it was like not the people to

play with and it was all that. But then the Niggs was cool, man, The Knigs was cool, respecting each other's ass because I don't care how many holes and buy ready for the front of looting them. Getta stop dj that the count was dead around. I witnessed that on too little like mother to him. I'm there, I was there. I was off the ports. I was there eighty nine. But anyway, the way that started, I think it shouldn't never started. It did. It did, but I

was I was with my guy. You know what I'm saying, roll with Luca. Yeah, I was rolling. But he got the funny part of that because being that I knew how it started, you do it that kind of little a little bit. I wasn't with it at first. I was like, he tried three or fold. Then I just gave him a number, but he paid that number. Wait what period? Yeah, I said it, say it again again. At first I wasn't with it, and then I gave him a number and they're like, I'm getting that. Then

I did my verses. I tried three or fold niggers, but they couldn't bring it home like then, like they were gonna bring it home and make it respectable. And the count in my line right check you understand. Understand. But because I wasn't gonna do it, because I knew it was. It was really some fun ship and it was like, damn, but I liked them niggas music. But but they against you. Boy, you gotta roll with the grid, you show you we gotta suck them up. Let's just

cut off their lights for a week. You know what I'm saying, Let's not kill them something like that. I'm just you gotta be with me, man check. Yeah. But that's all though, So you know I did it, you know, and that was that what we're talking about? How started? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. But you know, the Niggers was cool. So after the record comes out, how do y'all become American? Will believe with them? Like, how do y'all squad? Thank god?

Everybody was still players. And then when Easy and that role was beating. Actually, recall Luke on the phone, We're Easy talking mar Or you know, I'm like, yeah, and that's the first time I heard that pay per view show game because I'm like, no, alright, boom here gonna gangs you one that nobody knows ball? Where are you at? Uh? The video to don't sleep on the heels or push it back? That's in California, that's ninety three, that's at

the same set. Way Easy did this rugular dreading them the same ruga dreading them did what they had to sign when we're in the same studio. It cost me an extra ten thousand to fly to l A to do it like, because we're in the height of the beef. That's how crazy it was the young niggas, right, yeah, well you can say ten thousand here, do it here. We just created it. But if you fly out to CALLI in the height of his beef you say ten thousand, I'm like, what, let's go say the money, not knowing

that I wasn't getting none of that money anyway. But you gotta have got killed. I could have got kisses. We have to. We had a MAT twelve and the nine and something else under the plane. You can fly back then with yeah, well you gotta report. You gotta let them know what you got. You can shut on the plane. Yeah, we were doing that way back then. So we're there. So I'm still like this, but now you gotta think that's still got extras and everybody else.

But it was so it was just stupid. But see, the game wasn't what it was today because the day was social media. Many shut out shut down for tenth out now, but we're talking about nine three three, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, the game I'm just I'll tell you, niggas, I survived in the era going through a lot of ship and it's still it survived because yeah, I mean it could have been couldn't really go. I mean,

if you're thinking about life. But but I was sent out now like all right, yeah, mr account and that my little niggas. I wouldn't even offer you that I ought to pay the tent out to keep you with me. I wouldn't have said making you can knowing I'm not going to give you them ten thousand. Oh that's fun. See, I'm thinking that's some new ship, right, but I'm here,

I'm gonna laugh. So what for you? You know, I'm doing my R and B album, man saying I think he's serious about Listen, I'm gonna do a bunch of B movies. I'm gonna ride this is on the Dollar ship, the Chilling circuit to the motherfucker will busy. I just say the Chiling circuit. All that they love me, They love me like Chiling. I like the chicklingt circuit. But we understand that if I was to go back and do shows, I would do the chi. They love is organic,

it's genuine his hood. Yeah right now, you know when we get dollar love, you know what I'm saying, it was helped. But when when it's Darris there now, can't take it, can't take what is. But if they don't, if you don't feed them enough, you know, they lose interest. You know humans, you know short attention span, you know regular people. You know what I'm saying. We're superheroes out there and at something. We got people. Let me stop. Got loyal fan base that that's never gonna go. A

lot of artists don't go. I want to be forward. I like this just a bleading because I'm sure the only all right if I didn't have them, picture me rolling? Can't you see me? We're gonna nine and you see me at somebody death? That somebody? How you see me? Man? How did you me rolling? I ain't gonna lie. This ship has been so beautiful. We're glad we had gotta give you a flowers. My brother, take one more. Let me finish my ship. Porto Rican Holob. I ain't taking

Did I miss one? Did you go without me? Oh? I got it? No? No, no, no, that's about regular drink. I just don't want to regular drink officially my last I can't not do it. But JT money, let me tell you something. We got our friend Garcia. He doesn't come out for nobody, and he came out because a real three five nigger trail five pet that up, Won't you know what I mean? Little to day county day counting.

Love y'all, y'all, and you you're a real one. Hold on, you're a real one and you deserve every accolady, and this is your house. You won't come in here and how you told about other niggas too, But this time is about giving you your flowers. But I feel like you you you. I'm gon you start your own podcast as well. It's gonna be disputed by drink chance. Do that. We do that, Invite me home and we'll do that

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