Episode 344 “StockX Golf Invitational”

night deal Jordan Jordan Animal at deal craon. So it described to people who who who's living under the rock, what exactly is do you you do? We a legend that we already send you from Queens were doing like the behind the scenes. It's not behind the scenes, um, but just described to people. You know what's going on in you're like the man. So I'm a professional BMX athletes ride bikes, jumping over everything, manuel and popping Willie's all those things, bro, and I took that from just

a love and a hobby and turned into a career. Wow, I've been pro for fifteen years man, you start writing, Um, I started riding when I was about four years old, but I started taking BMX serious around like twelve years old and I turned pro eighteen. So how does the person in turn pro like from people that's sitting around riding a bike right now and um just having fun, how do they How does a person that's that's doing that say, you know what, I could make money off it?

And I could I could be doing what nig was doing, right, So two different ways to go about it. Um, you can rideing like the traditional contests, compete and whatnot. Or you could just be doing your thing outside like video social media, social like huge rollings to it and um you'll find different companies or companies will find you haven't check out, you know, and if you're worthy, if it's right, the opportunity to makes sense, it's sign you up. Right?

So then how does how does one not only get UM via max uh like staff, but then you got um, let's pump about all eight don't go to bask me help? Yeah yeah yeah the nine hole man? Yeah? Oh yeah, how you are God for too? Now I keep my head with the vibs. So how do you how does it. How does a person um even like you know, because like I said, you said, you got Jordan Jordan's Uh you know, I remember Jordan's like first athlete he ever endorsed with Derek Jeter, right, so didn't he endorsed you? Like?

How the elder is that I got my Jordas right now? Like you know what, how does that I got my gold Cup? Tomario to man, you know what's going on? I don't really see Wait a minute, I took it off. I had to give my life together. But that's real quick. That's that's the main way to to to generate revenue if you're like a bike rider, if you're a skater or server, like endorsement deals, right, endorsement deals, and then

you create your own to create your own brand. Um, you compete in contests, especially nowadays man, with like social media, there's so many different ways to go about it. Like it's really like the wild wild Western sense if you can make it your own. This is what I've been doing my entire career. How did you get to call with Jordan's care What did they say? So? So listen, So when I turned pro right, Um, I turned from

eighteen and I got signed to Dave Mirra. So for those of you who don't know who Dave Marry is, Dave Marry is like the Jordans of b he know what I mean, Like he's the guy father. He's the biggest bmxed rout of all time. In my opinion, God rested Dell, you know what I mean, Like he's right but the soul and all that. So he signed me when I was eighteen, and I got signed to Nike

a couple of months later. So like when I turned pro, was like in a very like kind of like President way right, it was like like, damn, we're signed to Mirraco Bikes and you signed to Nike. So I've been on Nanke for a very long time. I'm both recently I signed from UM I switched from Nike to Jordan Brand.

It's been like about a year ago, so it's it's been It's been amazing to go cross category and a brand like that, you know, I mean, right, has has Do you feel that representation has changed from black and brown in this space because before, back in the days you look back, it wasn't there because you got so many kids from the hood. Now can be because looking at it like, Okay, I can do this now too, right, you feel me? Like even for real, like you know,

I'm so glad that I'm affiliated with Parrele. But even back then, like he was, he was presenting like the skateboard, the BMX type of thing and people weren't ignoring him. Back now, that wasn't cool, But that's because I think there was a lack of Like I was a little skater, market was the only skater that that was Latinos that I was like, yo, he's doing it. There was only

like one or two a handful, right see. But nowadays with like social media, now everyone has access to because we want skate parks everywhere, Like people can put their content out and they're not confined to having to wait for the big brand to come find you, right, I mean like now it's like, Okay, I'm gonna put my content out and I'm gonna make it mine and I can create my merch. But if I need to do now, that's that's that's It's a beautiful thing man to see.

And then like not only that, I was just so proud because it's like coming from Queens, two of our biggest brands, that it's so um weighed on us and so heavy on us. It's Nike and then it's Moette like you a drug dealers, like you know, they've always had my wet And I looked and I was just, you know, I always see I follow you, obviously appreciate and I support you. I'm gonna see you a lot. But I'm sitting back and I'm like this, I said, this guy really is living the dream of a queen's kid.

When you have you have a Nike slash Jordan deal uh and a Moat deal like, and you're you're doing what you actually love to do. I'm mad. I would be much man. I mean for you, I'm like, I'm still being driving you, still crazy ship with you. You still go to the city and you still like hit the park. I'm still do the tricks. But my thing is, I was sitting there like I'll be like I'll be thinking, like you're gonna get hurt. Like I'm like, you know,

so why do you still do that? Is that something you have to do to keep keep your skills shop? I mean yeah, Like I still love riding my bicycle at the end of the day, like this is what got me here. Like I was out riding yesterday. I was in front of the FTX arena, like look at my right now. Oh god blood, I was out there getting busy yesterday. So wherever I'm at, like my bike is usually with me. What's it to your point? Right, like when you said like the whole nikee thing and

like the my wet thing. I remember like being a kid in the hood, like growing up in Laurelton, like pull them to the stoop and like the older heads was out there following my wet chilling fresh like fresh nankee fit on, you know what I mean. So I'm just following tradition in the sense you feel me like, you know, it's crazy, what is so much of a queeze thing? I felt like that was a part of the outfit. Like yeah, I feel like you know, I can say that now because because Jake doing business with

web Scott, you know what I mean. But yeah, like what was really like it's really like even to now, Like yesterday, I was drinking my wet right missively and it really like I promise you I hate this time. I got alcoholic, but it takes like regular cool aid, you know, like you're not used to it. I was so used to it and it's like it's going right back to drinking cool it. But how is that? Like you know what I'm saying, Like like it's crazy, right, So I think it was junior This year I went

out to Paris and fashion. Yeah, I was out there doing that and my way invited me to the Chateau out and that was the vibe because they brought me to the sellers. But you have to see the process of how they bottle, how they store, how they aged them, put them a web, you know what I mean. And then he had this amazing like chateau was like ten bedrooms, marble everywhere and chandeliers like wow. So they had this

entire experience which is so crazy man. So it's again to think about it like being a kid riding around my hood watching like the older cast and the hustlers like top of my wed or being a club whatever the case is. Get to work with a brand like that. And now France like actually bombing with with that Brandon building. It's in a cluble opportunity, you know what I mean. And your passion got to there, you didn't have to do something else to It's crazy. Yes, come on, come down, down.

Come on, come on, come on, couple boy. I hate that. I hate to immediately ask my phone somebody phone man, hate to immediately ask both of y'all this question. What's up? But it's a hot topic right now, and people are saying that two of our gods in hip hop, Oh, come on now, are not relevant. I told her, I think the word relevance is being used the wrong way to be. I can answer that very easily, but I want to. I want to. I want to start with you.

But you walked in. They're saying that, I don't know how. I mean, I kind of understood what Booty was trying to say. You know, you already know. It's not that you can't. The word jay Z and relevance is gonna always be, you know, to me hand in hand. So he's definitely relevant because what he does with the culture when he constant moves, but for me not definitely not He's doing his non stop too, just exactly, so both

of them definitely relevant to me right now. You come on, I mean, listen, we're sitting here drinking space, you know what I mean. I feel like Dream Chance is one of the biggest shows in the world right now. You

know what I mean. So we're here doing that here and then nazis queens man, so like, I mean, come on, you're dropping an album, dropping music, like how could we how can we sit here and say it's not I'll answer the question like this, right in different people's worlds, relevance like and like, listen, right now, I can go to a Jamaican concert right and there might be thirty thousand people saying that Norma's not relevant, right because I'm not saying blood Clode exactly. You know, I don't not

to make it back. I don't know where you love the yard, you know what I'm saying. But what I'm trying to say is they would say, if I was to drop my old music, let's say that's not relevant right now, right, So they're they're right, they're right, right. So but then in my world, maybe this reggae artist is old school regular artists that it's still relevant and therefore it's not what are you still listening to my my school hookie parties. It's not what I'm listening to now.

So the word relevant is only relevant to people who find relevant relevant. It's very specifically, it's very specific, Like some people were making that conversation about music specific Yeah, you can have that specific to generational, like youth versus this. You know what I'm saying. But relevance, come on, it's kind of it's we gotta redefine it right now. Like right now, some people say Britney Spears not relevant. I say, if Britty Spears come on, drink chance, we're gonna kill that. Man.

You know what's just for me? I think it's about explosion man, Like everyone, I feel like nowadays because you can follow who you want to follow on social media, like your world's find that too white important? You know, I you know, what you find important doesn't mean that something else is not important. But I think it's all based down to and you know, Boosty is my friend. But it's like if he was to find the young kid and queens right now, just a random young kid

and queens, and you will say it's Boosey relevant. I bet you that kid and queens would not say he is because that kid in Queens listen to two whoever whoever is hot at that moment, and maybe he might agree with you. And you know, I will never come at Boosey. But um, and that's just really what it is, man, it's just like you know, I think it was here is a booty made that statement, and he was like

where he is. His circuit that he's doing as well, the clubs that he's performing a very specific so it's yeah, he's like, you're not relevant there. I would never be relevant there. Honestly, my style of music, you know, he prob whatever it is wouldn't play necessarily in those venues anywhere. So of course you would believe I'm not relevant because we don't play necessarily at the same venue as well.

What well, to me, they're both relevant to me. I still look up to them what they did as far as business, as far as music, as far as artistry, I always look up to them. But I will never deny the fact that m Boost it's his own version of jay Z. I will never defined the fact that it's only version of No talked about this. Yeah, we relevant over talking about but the fact was that everything is very finitely he says, everything is like very detailed

to what you're watching when you're looking. Truth funny, relevancy is irrelevant to me because the fact that you could be I know artists that like m when the sound club ship was popping, and there was artists that had millions and millions of followers. They're doing festivals. You asked the average like head like hip hop. He let's say you asked me. You know this, are never heard of him. But this artist here is making millions of dollars. They've

got million the followers they're doing, they're doing festivals. That's in my world. K will never be irrelevant. The world that I live in, big will never be irrelevant. But to my son, my some bobby doesn't even know who Big Dad. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. But that's actually even more importantly my wife, your tongue, you'll never be relevant, like to our like I'm saying, it's all that is irrelevant. What I'm saying because to somebody you relevant.

I'm saying, yeah, man, there's a lot of good watches out here. Man. I was just looking around Judge like you know, I judge your years years, you know, it's crazy around yesterday and I was like yo, and he was like, yeah, now you know, now you want to wear Richard Mills. It's about ten years ago. I was laughing at for a round like this bull. I had no idea what I was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah that guys, what's going on? Trying to make this to pop up? Let's go, what do you call u?

The moon? That you called it? The moon? Come on down? You already know man, he's going down. We got motherfucking the Holy jay Awsmith build how about you, champion? As soon as you got to god Ward when um, but I gotta asked about this famous place. It's this famous place. Everyone thought you was high. You know what flames over exactly what you I gotta ask when they did that? Though he was locked in, He locked in for the moment. The ambitions was there, the passion was there. You wanted it.

But so he's saying that means you look sorry, no, no Flames, don't Hennessy anybody. We don't weak. They had nothing to do with Hennessy all week. Nothing to do with Hennessy all week. Okay, to explain this play, tell us, so what happened was normally in this situation for us, the game is close, you get an offensive rebound, we get it. That means we get a second chance. We're gonna call time out, get the ways organized, get the ball back in Brian's so in this case, we got

the ball, I brought it back. I'm waiting for somebody to, you know, called time out of something. So nobody did nothing. So I'm all right, bet we're in a good situation. I'm gonna bring the ball back out. It turns out what he was, it was in a good situation. But it is what it is. When mean, I take that, I'll take that far off if that's what it was what caused us to lose the series? All right? I mean they only had Katie, Steph and Clay and so do you miss playing ball? Yeah, of course that's my

That's my first love. Yeah, that's my passion for sure. Coming from from coming from New York, coming from Jersey, that upbringing and get into the Big League and then moving on to college after your career, how important was that to you? Uh? I mean honestly, I thought about it a lot like my early years coming into the league, Like I was like, I'm always gonna go back and

get my get my degree and whatever whatever. But you know, I mean after year six seven, went straight from high school, straight from school, so I after for me, after like years six seven, eight nine, and I'm like that ship did, like I ain't gone back to school. I'm done, Like I mean, my mom even my mom was like, boy, you ain't. Don't even worry about I ain't tripping on that. So then after like you know, after my career and after the ship started getting slow as a hooper, I

was trying to figure it out. Man, Rayal and hooked me up. It was some real knowledge of self and being more self aware, and uh, after that was just over. I just didn't figure somelf was so dope. Man, that was that was so cool because so many, like our youngsters, they think that that is the end all be all, like you get you, you become a rapper, or you become getting the NBA, and then so then our goals

are so limited. Like like what you did was so honorable, Like I always wish I had your number to just call you and say how proud to be as a community because you made it to where you made it, you had you your rings already and then you went to college. That was like that was like just like so honorable, like like let's just make some noise that again, that it's never too late, and like the biggest thing for me, like growing up, I never like I was I was always an athlete, like it was all to

me making it out. Was always basketball, football, baseball or something like that. So that was my that was my outlets. So you know when I catered to that. So I cated to that so much I didn't learn how to do you know, everything else. Like people people like get on me about it, but I've never changed the tire on the car. I've had money since I was seventeen, so my time I got my first Yeah, like I ain't.

I don't know. I really like I called my mother when it's time to like, uh, washing my clothes, I gotta call my mom's Like I ain't call I have, So I paid somebody since I was seventeen eighteen wash my shop. I don't know do this so like little ship like that, like trade, like trades, and when they took trades out of the community, and like we really I feel like, especially the black and brown communities where

we really like that because we can't. We stopped working with our hands, but stopped being a carpenters, start, stopped being construction workers, stopped being so many things that just it's a necessive through life opposed just clicking and making it seem like anything is easy. Just use them all the time. It's a confidence builder from person for sure. For sure. What's your favorite team you ever played? For?

Good question? Favorite team, there's no there's no pressure, there's no pressure n C double as man, I need to break that barrier actually though. But yeah, favorite team though, My favorite team was my Cleveland team, the Chip team. Like we was we were sticking Steves. But just on that team as well, right yeah, me, Kai, bran Ken Channing, r J Sean. I mean we had a crew. It was Tristan. We missed that team. Man. Just the bond

we had as a team was crazy. Like I've never I've been on good teams, but I've been on some teams that we quote unquote tighten it. But like every time we moved around, it was always thirteen, fourteen, fifteen people. And you know, for for us, that was saying something because you always catch change people click up, you see two people here, you see three day, you see one day,

see two day. But for us, when you've seen one of us nine times out of ten, fourteen other people about to hit that corner, you know what I'm saying. So that was that was that was powerful for me, but my obviously playing in Jersey was like are playing and sitting in New York and the garden was crazy. Being from Jersey. My pops was the Knicks fan. I grew up a Bulls fan. But when I had an opportunity to come go to New York, I was like, oh yeah, I gotta do that. Absolutely, that's all. That's all.

You already done your Jersey spiel right now. I told him I'm take when we were eating lunch. I had to. But because tell them, tell them all in as a Jersey we always get the love as far as hip hop and life in New York and West Coast, and the vibe is always alive in Jersey. Always feel like we gotta right for it. You know, we don't get the problems as far as so many people have said. But as far as anybody that I see, you know

how to introduced myself and to make it right. But but as far as um an athlete coming out of high school and touching back to hip hop, what was your music? What was your your influence your soundtrack of how did you get going to who you are and what you are? Man, I'll never forget it. My my coming out party was my sophomore year. I was playing football at the time, and they put what years is just this is two thousand two to two thousand one.

Um that flash with my flash anthem and all that coming, bro, when you came through the tunnel in the high school, like that was crazy. We thought it was like we thought it was the bulls when you heard that, that's what to us. I mean, it was like it was you thought we was gonna have a whole fight. And it was obviously just a basketball game or just a football game, but like coming up, it was for me, it was always ax. That was like the first CD I ever bought. The first team was on the same

same Yeah, we was. So we had in Jersey South or Central Jersey I call it. We got different like people from different sides of the tracks or whatever. So we had this crew called the Red Jaft Crew. They they thought they was like the Rock And we had another crew that was like Deep Block, and I mean we had some young named after young I mean it was young kids wild en up. But that's how it was. And like we was really I mean, we really loved music more than anything. Nas obviously noy man, y'all was

like guys to us. So when I see y'all, I mean I paid how much to y'all because yeah, maybe were coming up. That's what that's what's amazing. That was the motivation. But what was the worst team you ever played for? Oh Man, New Orleans. My first ship the Warriors New Orleans. We want eighteen games year. We got the Hornets at the time. Yeah, the next morning we drafted CP. Next first year, it was two thousand four, we played out. We want eighteen games. We get a

lot of repick. Hurricane Katriina happened. We moved to Oklahoma. We draft CP, CP come ball out Rookie of the Year next year. After that, my third year coming in, I get traded to Denver. That I got trade to Chicago for a couple of coffee. Then they sent me to Denver. When the Denver and Mellow started rocking out that first year, that's when I got We got into that fight in New York. Yeah, we traded for a court. Yeah when Mellow everywhere. Yeah, how do you feel playing

with a or I love that. I mean, you played with a lot of people. There's a lot of experience that you have on your boat outside of your own talent, But how is that going to be your favorite? How that chemistry var gotta be your favorite to play with? Yeah, Jake kids Kid, Yeah, because like, bro, it's different man. And I don't mean there's no district to brown obviously. Be like jak was a point guard. You know I'm saying, j K jay Kid literally trying to get twenty assists.

He ain't trying to score nothing. For me. He changed my mentality immediately because he told me like, listen, if you in better shape than everybody else on this team, I'm gonna get you at least six to eight points a game. And I was just like, he was like, listen, you know it may not seem like a lot, but you get six or eight points just from me a game that's not on top of two three, your own hustle. We're gonna run some plays for you. You're gonna get

to the free throw line. But I was just like, he like really broke the game down for me, and like that's what I was just like, Okay, oh, this is how I this is how I go about running a second unit or whatever else. And know what I'm saying, he really taught me the game. So for me, he was probably one of my favorites. And if you could do anything over what were you doing or nothing? If I could do anything, oh honestly, if I could do

anything over that fight in New York. Yeah, me and Mello got into that fight in New York with Nate and um I don't even know du name no more. Um she got rip no for real. That's crazy. But I feel like because at that time, me and Me and Mellow was one of the highest two scoring duos in in the UH the team was playing. It was in the Western so Mello was averaging like thirty five or something like that. He's going to higher scoring. He didn't.

He didn't make the playoffs. Isaiah Thomas. He just got mad because we was running the score up and he ain't like George Carls. So they had a whole inner time, even we as players, got caught up into some bullshit that we had nothing to do with. So but that's just the way this should go because me and like I said, me and Mellows is one of the highest scoring duos in the in the in the league at the time, So for me, that's perfect time for me. Contract year is about to come up. We talk a

longevity all right, we're paying duels up like that. That plays a major part we trade for AI. I go to the bench like ship play out different. But I mean I don't look back at it regret. It's just like if I could take something away, then now I would take that away because for one, that ship costs me a ship ton of money on on immediately. But just my whole image went down after that, like people just started looking at me like, oh, he's a real thug like that I'm saying, you know, I mean, he's

sticking for your team. Man, you know what I'm saying. When it's nowadays it's cool for stick up for your teammate, but then it's like, okay, you're doing too much or just then a thirds like all I bet ah, that's that's crazy. Um. One of the things that I remember the most about you after career wise, I mean, not to take nothing away from what you've done, is when you made a comment about spending thirty grand in the street club instead of helping somebody with with a scholarship

or doing something to the community. I like, I like to teuch based on community outside of athletes, and you know, in your and your goals. So how was that important for you to get to that point where you when you said, you know what I could do better, and I'm available so I can do better. I mean that's for me because I've been on a different program, right, I've since walking out of high school. Like I was just gifted uh a fame, money, whatever. But the community

support you anyway, right, the community supported me anyway. But for me, it wasn't even. It wasn't about the community. It was more I was so focused on me and what I had going on. It wasn't even. I wasn't because it was all happening so fast. Yeah. That, and it wasn't like yeah and that. It wasn't like we had people. I didn't have people to like to look up to to be like, okay, bet, this is how you go about doing that, being a professional doing it.

We are in a certain type of way. We was in a funky era between throwback jerseys, being revaluous towards the league and ship like that. So it was like my idols was bad boys in the sense you know what I'm saying, your has Hold up a second, I got something to say. Addiction is a treatable disease, but finding the right treatment can be overwhelming and confusing. Shadow Proof,

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dot org. Again, get help today by visiting shatterproof dot org. A I she zebo like those type dudes like because to me, like I'm not going to suck a coat, what I got to say just to make a book? So if you to me, those are always the realist ones. So I always attracted to people who kept it real, like we ain't gonna bullshit, You ain't gonna I mean, I'm not gonna sit here and say X, Y and Z just for product of your environment. You say, do you say missing college was it was a bad thing?

Or like didn't help you mature growing into that part of the culture with being rebellious. I would say yes and no, but it's all it's all dependent on the right situation, you know what I'm saying, Like everybody don't have the same experiences when they go to college. Some people just even get the more baby than cater to even even more, you know what I'm saying. So honestly, if you're depending on the situation, I think it every

it emoted you any kind of way. But for me, I'm glad I did what I did because I got to learn then a sack like I got to I got to do what I wanted to do anyway faster, you know what I'm saying, Like my boys went to school, they went to school, they went to school three or four years, play in the league to three years, three

or four years, and then't out the league. Like bro, I've been in the league this whole time and played another five six like you know what I'm saying, Like I ain't I ain't had to go to no bullshits some coach talking about all because you ain't make the running around the track in a certain amount of time, or you're not gonna play this or that or playing some weird games and ship like I ain't got time for that. Like cold college coaches from one they got

too much power, you know what I'm saying. And I feel like for me, Yeah for sure, bro, because they control every thing. Like now that you like, these dudes starting to get bread, now it's gonna be a little different because they're throwing like you got some weight, right, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, you gotta think like if I'm a quarterback at Alabama and I'm getting three mill off of some n I l ship, like, I gotta brown some more say around this ship NIX saveming like,

don't give me no disrespect. You all who you are, but you're not just about to be talking to me and treat me any kind of way. Now, you know the gatekeeper to get to that, right, Like yeah, Like they really look like they're the gatekeeper. They treat they treat players like that. I've been in Louisville and I've seen Patinot talk to some of these people crazy, you

know what I'm saying. I like, and he's a great coach, don't get me wrong, but I've seen these people talk to people crazy and he and he navigates his way out of right back. Yeah, I mean, but anyway outside of that. So, so being that you're now, would you go back to like the Big three, would you still

stay active in the sports sense? Or how do you feel about your own you know being for me personally, I wouldn't play in the Big three the same thing, just speak just because it's not the same as what I'm accustomed to, you know what I'm saying, Like it's not like I'm a five on five dude, Like I'm I'm full caught, like I'm a who like three yar three and all that's like a workout for me that we do that to like staying in shape and stuff

like that. So for me, it's just not as appealing as what I'm accustomed for my other than my last year, what five years, four years I've been in I played in the finals, well out of six out of five years of my last year of my career was in

the finals. What I'm saying like for real, but you know what, But it's funny because and I've seen Draymond say this the other day on one of his shows, like it's hard to like people is getting after him because it was like hard for him to get up for certain games like bro, are you four and sixties something and you just came from five straight finals? Just hard to get up for the game. You know what

I'm saying. Let alone, you're already getting paid X, Y and Z, Like that's just hard to keep that thirst and whatever. But yeah, man, like that, I let a game and I let her play. But for me, I get more joy out of it just going to the me and going to the wreck and go, yeah, your own preference, yeah, pick up like because then at that point I could be me like I A. I'm not going into the situation where like, listen, man, you shoot corner threes like you men that he gets thirty, give

him the ball, like, listen, bro, I ain't. I ain't here for that. I'm thirties seven years old. Brother, who I would go, who? So this is this and everybody in the NBA burns? But but is it true or is it not? I'm sure not everybody. Yeah, I mean it's like anything, everybody will do it because I like some people, it's just not good for some people, you know what I'm saying, Like some people like alcohol, just not good for them. I mean some people just can't

do either one. I mean so, but a lot of I mean a lot of us do for sure, because a lot of for one, a lot of us come from the from that community. You know what I'm saying. People don't realize, like when you sit there and say, oh, a lot of the NBA players smoke, Yeah, a lot of us black too, Like a lot of us like we come from. I mean, that's how that's our culture, you know what I'm saying. And I don't make us wrong or and different, but that's just what we that's

what we do. You know what I'm saying. Right in the bubble, which every which is crazy to me because

they said all the numbers were so amazing. It's not the third alright, cool, But y'all was letting everybody smoke, you know what I'm saying, because y'all made it so crazy for us when we was like we're not during my career, like it was the worst thing of him if you would have been up with spending five games for that ship, you know what I'm saying, Like that's for the moral perception or just being professional, like smoking weed and just being like you don't know, I got

I got I felt Yeah. So I was in the program for a while and I kept like I was failing drug tests like I wasn't. Like people don't realize like when you got talent first of all, Like for me, it's hard for me because I understand the god gift given ability that I got from where you're from from well not only from where I'm from, just in my being like mom, like I'm gonna I'm very gifted, Like

I can. I hate to say it, but I can go out here and play damn that scratched golf, go play ball and go bold, damn that row three hunted, and then like I'm very gifted at this after the I can't do none of that people like yeah. So like when people like try to underplay, like make it seem like you don't know your talent. No, I know my talent. You you don't. You're scared of my talent because you keep limiting me and all at fascest of what I can do. You're just trying to keep throwing

me in this box. Okay, this, No, I can do this, this, this, this, and that I'm six six six, one of the most athletic. I can handle the ball I can shoot now. You can't sit here and tell me as a basketball player archetype. You want to make somebody like my like me. So when you people other people just try to limit like, oh nah, you didn't play two your abilities, you didn't do this, you didn't do that, you did that. Listen. I did everything I could do within the restrictions that

they gave me. You want the six man, Yeah, absolutely, absolutely not. That's that's that itself is also an achievement for being in the league and the lead players, and there's only a lot of players in a certain amount of team coming off the bench playing that role, being the leader, being a mentor and a student and winning. Yeah, and I suspended a lot of games to people don't even realize that ship like like and it's funked up

because I don't. I don't like to glorify as like something I'm proud of, but it's like I was standing up for what I believed in. You know what I'm saying, Like, I'm not gonna sit here and let you just treat me any kind of way, whether it be coach, player, GM. We're gonna talk. We're gonna talk like you do you like it or you don't, but you're gonna respect the fact that I had to say what I had to say.

You're not just gonna get it off on me like that. Well, you one of those people that the teams turned to or the coaches turned to. Just speaking on that on a on on that statement. But were you just out spoken? I was. I was more outspoken. We had other dudes in there for that, because when it got to me it wasn't really that good. Too late, Yeah, it was too late, Like it wasn't as healthy for me because I didn't really know how to communicate my frustrations at times.

You look, That's what I'm saying. So missing the college part and going straight from high school as a young man, that the development it articulate, you feel that that space was Now I don't even see. I don't think it's that space because again I've seen multiple dudes to go to college and still haven't developed that. It's just I think it's more development as I think we as the culture got to do a better job development as in

one another. You know what I'm saying to me as a as a vet, my job is to make sure whoever following me don't do none of the dumb ship that I did and put them in a better position than what I had. You know what I'm saying, That's just what a vent is supposed to do. Now, if I can't do that, If I didn't do that, then I then I failed. That's just no efens appoints about it. You know what I'm saying. So when I see my young boys out here going to get a bag, I'm

proud because I know I did something right. I put him in the right direction. He like, I bet you know what I'm saying. Whenever he see me, he knows for show like yo, good looking bro. You know what I'm saying. I can't never. I don't never want to be in a position when somebody wanted my one of my man see me and they you know, worst position, like damn with this name. No, I ain't never gonna be the case. You see the latest documentary I've seen bits and pieces of I ain't really you ever thought

about culture. I'm more I'm more player like, player development. I'm not like yeah like I like. I like helping players get better at their craft, like all of that exces and nose and because once you get into that then it's like it's so much political pieces to the game. You gotta Okay, this person got to play thirty five minutes. This person got to play this time because you gotta like it, Na, because you don't like because it's it's not coming from the coach. It's not giving you a

strategic political part of it. You know, it's somebody from the from the upper box, like, yo, no, he gotta play now he got It's not just the game, yeah that early in the career or like later in the career. No, that's just coaching and coaching period. Like that's just when I was with the Knicks, right, this is after me winning sixth man and they wanted me to like because

I would always work out by myself and then my trainer. Yeah, even when when I was with the next I would always work out by myself because for so long, even when I was when I was in New Orleans, when I was in Denver, when I got to the next, all the coaches were always like, why is he doing this?

So why is he doing that? And why is he doing Like for me, I'll practice the shots that I shoot so for the yeah, and for me, like once you start like really believing that ship and I see you believing, I'm starting to distance myself because now it's like you're not even giving me the opportunity of benefit of the job to be me. So you know what, I'm just nipping in the butt. So I ain't gotta worry about trusting you because I already don't, so I ain't gotta I mean, so I just alleviate myself from

the whole situation. But when I was when I was there, like it was like, again, why are he doing this? Why is he doing that? Why is he doing this? So I was like, alright, bet I wanted six man, like, oh, now you gotta be around more for again, like young guys this and that, we want to see your face more or whatever, so get back into it. And it's like, oh, why are you doing this? And when you like, bro, like what you want me here for? Like you asked

me to do. You asked me to come around. So when I come around you now you want to ask me what I'm doing? Why am I doing certain things? Like don't ask me that. When you see the finished product, when we step on the floor, you see eighteen eighteen five and four, don't worry about how how it got there. Just know that it's gonna get there. So is it fair to say that you did all alone? Did you have any vets? Um and a mari Um and a Marie start on my episode, Nor brought up that having

vets is important in a young man's career. So how do you feel, like, who is your vets? And get you to that point that you just said doing the eight teen five and four that's why I j kid Jake Kid when I had j kids. She when I got to New York and that was like my first No, that's like that's big bro, Yeah, like for real? She uh, Jay Kid, Kurt Thomas, Marcus can be um Marcus came from from Syracuse. Yeah not Syracuse. Um you Massum. We had my yeah, Andre Miller and Denver, I had Chauncey

for a minute. But like at that time, certain for me, it was hard because and at times I said I had bad vets. It's not that I had bad vests. I had vests who didn't know how to translate what I was going through to get to me, you know what I'm saying. Like since sometimes it was telling me ship and it was just like they couldn't make it relatable. Yeah,

they couldn't really make it relatable. They were so old school, and I mean like when I'm coming I'm seventeen, eighteen years old getting drafted, the my vents is thirty six, thirty seven years old, like they got kids damn there.

So it was like it was it was drastic for me, you know what I mean, Like I didn't and then I wasn't playing like I had a viroun scout who coming from pat Riley coaching type style, like who already don't like young players all that ship, and so I didn't play like the first half of the season of my rookie years. So I'm like shot shut with school, Like no, I know, I definitely had to the point for the people to say, you ain't just jump because you had an opportunity, like you actually said, I could

have gone school. I could have made for sure because my team was if I don't went to school, they won national championship, Carolina won the chip already, so they just add me, we just blow even more about So it wouldn't even That's the way I look at it anyway. But I mean, is wild man, I'm happy to I'm just happy to be here, man, damn absolutely, man, So, um did you see with Lebron's uh said this morning

about Kyrie? Um was this morning? Yes, Um, I think that makes Lebron one of like most prolific athletes, right because I'm gonna tell you this, Muhammad Ali was cautious of what he was saying, and he he actually he did it, like Lebron is at the level where he don't have to even say nothing. Do you agree? Like what do what do you think he don't have to say nothing. No, he got to him, I mean for us he is saying something that and that's you you know, he was just just like yo, what look He's like,

look at this Jerry Jones picture. Um, you guys made a whole issue about this Kyrie thing, and Kyrie really didn't really saying I've been crazy already did it was supposed to link and say I know who I am. Meanwhile, Jerry Jones is in the picture with a mob of people not letting black students earlier, a mob of of of white students not letting a couple of black students in the school, and no one's bringing that up. That's crazy. No, it's not even the fact that they did not bring

it up. Bring they brought it up it's just that they shoved it up slide. But like that's my only thing, Like we're only like we're the most forgiving culture there is or we also nothing can happen because jay Z went on reg and I have to cut you up with the NFL when he said we don't shine, we don't shine shoes no more on the NFL before like three years ago about kaeber nag in the whole situation, what else can we do? You're right and nothing? And

since then now John Jerry Jones, what else can we do? It? It's there, it fell in, It fell in, Oh ship, you just let my bottom fall in the have a friend? That was it his fault. I don't know what the fucking porn at this point, what the fuck good it is? But but still good. It's not that it's not being brought up that Who can push that up? Man? Let's be clear. Have you ever worked for a team that you thought the owner was racist? Really? I'm scared? I

can I get can I just wint that through Charles Obia? Yeah, Dollar, I don't know. Honestly, I don't know if he's racist. I think he's just he's so arrogant and locked up into himself that he just he don't know aboudy like he fud with the people who I mean who like literally he person person. Yeah, but it's almost like he got it. It's the difference he funk with you, unless you know it's it's levels to this ship. If you know I'm up here and you're down here, then you're good.

And it ain't it ain't got no, it ain't no color barrier. It's just that's who. Yeah. Nah, some classism, right, Yeah, he's more classism what I'm saying. So you're saying the Denver owner. Nah, Now that's my man. You're cronking him. That's my man. Um. Yeah, for sure. Where he blew, he blew somewhere else. But who do you think was a racist owner with a fair opinion? Not like you're a cute I don't like. I can't speak on dead people, right?

That a lot though A Nelson? No, no, no, no, no, you're the owners, right, Yes, then we're not talk about the lake, is right? Okay? Yeah, that I ain't gonna lie. You gotta watch that documentary. I want to watch that ship is like it's crazy because that's just crazy. It's crazy to see the different generations, the different legacies, the different and I didn't realize because you know, I'm a New Yorker. For me being an l A fan, just I can't even tell nobody that. I can't even like

it's just I gotta using secret. I gotta Yeah. It was like I gotta cheer lead to myself, you know what I mean. But then watching this ship and I'm like, wow, it was a real legacy, and yeah, it's it's it's it's really dope. What's what's the name of the family, the the Lakers family, what's the bus? The Boss family? And you know, we gotta been balling out here. Come on to change something. There's lett be balling. Come in here and that's something. Come on, let's ball in the here.

What's going on? You know he's gonna have a great watch on. Let me check his watch out trans No, No, he's still staying here. You gotta stand up. I'm losing weight. But hey man, it's all family coming here. I got this question for both of y'all. You be careful. What the fund are y'all doing here? Why? What is this golf? Golf? Really, I've never played golf, bro Golf is lit golfer is crazy. I'm fully bro I'm about to sell much and play golf full time. What yeah, whoever is we're playing? Did

he just say? He just said you about to sell your jury business and play golf all time? But you do you don't get paid for playing golf. I made five million dollars. Actually are playing golf tournament tournaments. I got my own clubs. Wow, so you basically went pro for yourself. No, I'm just doing this bean, I'm saying, if you're getting sponsorips, you're in the same agency. So like we connected, and like we got a TV show dropping in two months about golf, about the jail you

just me Jr. And Marva and who this tournament? Who put? Okay? So all right, subscribe to us the people that was living under the rock. What is this TV show that we know it's about golf? But how did this come together? You know, golf has been like a traditional game for hundreds of years, and it's been like a game that's

kind of been gate kept. I don't even know, I say, but my folks, you know I'm gonna keep it one hundred and so, like I think that it was really important to see and to be quite honest, you know, I mean, you know my story so coming up, I didn't just get it from white people. I got from black people too, because I was in hip hop, I was in sports and whatever. But there are a lot of courses. Even ten years ago, country club, they when

let Asians play you only. So with the game now, we just wanted different perspectives, him being a pro bowler, me being you know, ex record executive, to to Jewelry marb on starting something for everyone. I just felt like if we got three fathers, three people that kind of came from some sort of hip hop culture background, and three different perspectives of where we are and in the world. With golf, I think it'd be interesting. I know it's

gonna be interested. What's the name of the show. It's called Part three, right, okay, And I know that's a golf term, but I am golf a literate So what is a par three? So, of course has so many part Basically, let's say eighteen holes here, right, there's gonna be you know, thirteen fourteen. Par four's, there's gonna be two to four. Part five, and they'll probably be two to four. Part three's. Part three is gonna be a

shorter hole. Technically on an eighteen hole, it's gonna be somewhere between yards to maybe even up to two hin yards. It's a shorter distance whole, so it means you've got three shot to make it in. And if you make three shots, that's part three. Right, you get parted for the course or a part for the whole. So far the numbers how many shots you get? Right? Yeah? Okay, now then give you parts like the even if you get shoot part. You're doing really good now JR. No,

I ain't. Yeah, I'm like a one for the course. Now we know what it getting drunk and just come on. Everybody I know loves golf, golf tournament, but you gotta drink the whole part or whatever. That's what I'm saying. You just come out and hit a couple of shots outside smoke, chill, The environment is good. You can play music if you want. So this is it's chill for me. I mean, I'm must say, we just a guards ye see, and then um shouts robbed all my daft dogs. Yeah

he took all dolls. Hey, I signed up for it. Off is changing now I'm saying more people get involved you know, even like the people out there with dregs, I he has ready just come him off. But i'man east Side golf shout to Easide Golf. They got to actually, you know they have black owned golf brand. They're out there doing Jordan class. Where is that stay from Atlanta? Atlanta? How about the l A? Is there a black owned golf course in the l A. I don't think it's

a black owned golf course in America. Maybe I don't know. Yeah, the golf course. How about My Bad Girl plenty three? And he has a couple of spots here, gatch I watched Curb Your Enthusiasm, and in Curb Your Enthusiasm, they had an Asian golf course in l A. Is that true? There's a couple of Asian golf courses here here in Miami. In Miami, I don't know you's in l A. Larry David's coach is my coach? Action Rondale Barrio shot the round Cuban Cuban, be don't tell Spanish Cuban. I'm maybe

I'm kill you don't turn them. So there was a rumor that you made the very first Rockefeller changes. That true or no? Um no, Uh, that ain't true, you know. Obviously I made a lot of them, um, But the first one was Manny Rest in Peace, Manny from the District. I'm sorry. Tito was the first one my battle, you know, man, you don't think I mind the computer. Come on, man, I'm you know Mannie made. Tito made the first one.

Jacob made a few after, and then m Chris Ayre, who I would love to see around because I think there need be more black jewelers in the game, especially in this world, especially when you're talking about hip hop. It's weird how um And I don't care because half my family is Jewish, but it is really a diamond game is controlled mostly by you know, by a lot of Jewish people and stuff and everything. And I don't

have an issue you. But Chris Sarah was literally the biggest jeweler in the world, you know, I'm saying, the ice man, and he was making all the rolls good joints. And then Dame lost a bet to me, so he had to give me his one or three rods school Rock Chain. I had by o G Rock Chain still obviously, but I made a bunch of them, and I make the Rock Nation ones too. But yeah, it's real ship right here. It's real shure right here, that's real ship. So so basically when I'm leaving from both of y'alls

that I gotta start playing golf for sure. And I could drink. It's not like, are you good? They got a person, have a long girl that dresses nice and bring the alcohol to you. We drink chains on the we're here right right. I was scared. It's golf face. Every year invites me to a tournament where they give us a hundred and fifty thousands. It's not Dredney, it's um, it's like like whatever. Like it's like it's like the

travel and all this crazy shit. And I downplay it every year because they said you have to know how to play golf and I don't, but I'm gonna do it. I heard he nice too. Yeah, And it's that is that a pleasure for you like after you were tired, because I mean, I mean you spoke about it earlier about you know, the thrill of you were just walking through and you're saying that golf is one of those pleasures for you. Yeah, for sure? What your lords? Who the hell put you on the golf Moses Malone arrest

in peace. Yeah, I think mos of Malone. Man. I was playing that uh with chart Lewis's golf out in Houston. His first foundation event was a golf out, and I was just riding around mess with people kind of like this, drinking and smoking and ship mess with the car girls. And he was a man, young feller. You talking all this ship because people was hitting in the woods. Ain't all over this place. Fella, Come here this ball. You're talking all this ship. Come here this bro, I get

up there. Showed me how to hold this ship, like all right, like this is like yeah, I hate that ship. Three hundre yards down the fairway. Let's man sh easy then talking ship, go back around, drinking, smoking the ship. Come back on this group like an hour and a half later. You beat me like three hundred your mother, you can't do it again. You can't do it again. He telling everybody, I get up that, but she can't hit the ball. I'm gonna get this ship and I've

been hook that shins. So Adam saying the story. You can't walk being humble because we got Tiger Woods with our agency, the best golfers in the world with our agency, right and I played with JR. And I played with some of the best people on earth and played my first p J problem last month that I've seen the best in the world. P n G. I play yesterday. This motherfucker hitting the ball just as far as p J players. And you played in the PJ played. What happened to you get invited to play in the PGA.

Either you're a billionaire and you pay to play. Oh you could pay the play in the I'm like nobody. I'm just saying people can or you get Then they asked you and I got invited in Japan. They yeah, I'm not gonna You're donna trust us. Why you're either your course just sticking there? Oh no, no, man, he a lot of dude. He'll be ready at the point he's gonna hand somebody. I was like that when I was the kids. I was my man, don't trust nothing at all. Man. I don't know what kind of drink.

I don't know what kind of fucking was that called drink chance repetation. We got you're good over here, brother, and we're drinking that that that motherfucking space. So glad I'm worthy to drink it. Man. And I've been watching some people just ain't allowed to drink. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. The what you finish you do? Say? Did you finish you do? Set rank next us? We got the delimitate. I need some more man. Yeah, And we got to be talking about yeah because because I don't

know where the car was. I have my air pods on my medicine and there I was like, oh God, now let me ask you something. Uh been baller Um and jay Um are y'all out here for art for a basil? I'm not here for golf, bro, I'm not for art. To one of my friends as good as a young he's not young, but black painter Alonzo Adams, he made a piece for me. We are ancestors while the Dreams and you know, he makes a lot of great pieces, makeing a lot of black art golf pieces

as well. So I'm coming to see this show. Was seeing something of this with I'm not really sure. Honestly, I wish. I wish I'd be a better promotion for him. I could have from Jersey to even so he said, don't get you from Miami too, Bro, I just wanted to he could only go he's from Calli, He's from New York. Now we did Cally baby amazing, nothing wrong with I was born. Were fighting, We're fighting. We're always

trying to get ours, you know. But when you said we all our wildest ancestors, that's want to be the greatest um slogans. Let's not it's not movement. How do you feel about that we are our wildest ancestor dreams? To me, it means a lot, because like when I think about my grandparents and I think about my mine, the lineage that I was fortunate to come through. Man I come from. My grandmother had eleven children and so unfortunately too passed away. So I got a nine answered

uncles and my my father's the oldest boy. Throughout my siblings. The majority of my are start my my answered uncles. Person has them there for the five kids from that fort to five kids one or old throughout that each individual within that has at least two to three or four kids. So my cousin's family and you know what

I'm saying. So that's where I come from. So when we do events and ship like that, like I actually see it now, like I see me having kids, my daughters fourteen five to fourteen year olds, five and four. Like I remember at that point in age being fourteen years old seeing my uncle's and seeing my dad around my age, you know what I'm saying. So it's all it all started hitting to me when I started thinking

about my grandparents, like damn, where was they at? What was they doing at this point when they was thirty five, thirty six, thirty seven years So? What was they going through? Then? You know what I'm saying, I don't think about some of the ship that I'm so fortunate to be complaining about. Now, what was they fighting for just as I mean, just to walk down the street without being sped on whatever

whatever I'm saying. I think about that, and I was like, my uh, I think about how fortunate and blessed I am to continuously do ship that mattered me something to people to where my at least my grandparents and people even you know, further than that, it's connected to me a better lineage going forward, you know what I'm saying, Because we all came from you know, especially if black and brown, he came from some type of l to

get to where we at right now. And for that for them, people who were sacrificed, and for all the way die. Whether you came over on the boat or he was already here, you went through that bullshit to be able to steal, you know, come up to where we are now. Ship. That's a blessing in disguise, if if it was the orders Alonzo Adam. Yeah. Great about like one thing I learned on this plane trip over here and talking to him because we're both sponsored. I'm

sponsored by major golf brands for billions of dollars. The first thing he had mentioned to me about the whole sponsorship. He a huge advocate for putting He want to put golf in a good because if you think about it, right, a lot of people out there just don't They probably have the physical athletic ability, absolutely, just don't have the resources. I don't think it's cool. Don't think what I'm saying,

because that's the first thing. Well, that's access. If you don't have access, you you're not gonna think cool at all. And I had a thing I kind of could have had access, right, but I mean like I was like, man, no bitches, yeah, yeah, for sure, ain't nobody and you know, pussy playing absolutely you know. And so once I figured it out, I was like, well, First of all, I'm married, so I don't care about that no more. But we

came out here. I had a reason. I rest in peace Virgils event last night to go see my man and bris usually come out here, but I've been coming to Miami for the last thirty years since. How can I be downs way back? I've been homing out here and everything right, So like coming out here now just vibe with gr yesterday I'm about to buy a creep here. Now there you go. You're late. You should have been welcome home. I mean, how used to fly here just to fighting? Yeah, we've been here. How used to like

just to go to Porthago? You know what I'm saying? Just yeah, we was there yesterday. So we need a gold community. We need to gold class. But that goes from Hispanics and and let's and everything. It's just it's not accessible. I just had that. I just hit the ball. I just hit a part with none. I had a part none. I don't think. I don't think he did that. It went you know, I don't know if I can't remember the name, but I can't remember his name, but the CEO of MARB Stephen, he sent me up. He said,

you want to hit the ball. I said, I've never hit it before. He did not hit the ball. I said, do you have anything in your pockets? He said no. I said, okay, hold my phone in my wallet, like I'm shimp ship right. And I hit that ball about forty ft and I was like, get my phone water back, but shout out to Stephen and he sent me up with people's people's. I mean, look, I love it out here. I've always loved it out here. I used to have a check out here for a lot of Dale shout.

They always say that count without married. I'm just saying, like, I just love the vibe out here. To air something about it out here, that's amazing for sure. One time, I forget what team it was, but y'all was at Club Live and y'all were surrounded by your own teammates and this is like, this is an ill moment because they was like, yo, we knew that that y'all were there, but y'all wasn't taking pictures. You remember what I'm talking about? What? What? What? What? What?

Because I forget it wasn't what team was, this was nixt. This is because you were with Lebron this night are you talking It's Cleveland that it was that Club Live and y'all, y'all came and I think, y'all, I think I forget when it was, but it was like an important game. And they said none of the capitalists taking no pictures, and they just still he was there the

next day. It was the next day and they went to Club Lift, and I swear to god, it was like I always wanted to ask you this because there's always these weird stories about Tom Brady and you know, these elite athletes that make they hold me just do some crazy ship Derrek and all this. Yeah, and it was one of these NICs. It was like yo and yeah. It was all in the circle and Club Lift, and I loved and I was brought to and there's like, no, they said, no one's taking pictures. So I said, oh ship.

I just sat back and I swear I think it was the Capitalist. It could have been a Lakers too, I'm being honest, you're laughing, like so, I always thought this was like this this crazy ship because they like, I spee to Tom Brady, he's like um teammates and they'd be like, yeah, Tom made me wake up at three thirty in the morning, hazy like some hazy ship. I'm gonna make your break. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, but you know what I'm talking like fifteen different stories

from there because for the Kobe ship. Um, but she's like it's that how it is sometimes right, Just I loved that though, Like it's it's crazy, Like that's what I missed the most, like ship, like the brotherhood of it all, you know what I'm saying, Like you get the because when you you were, you out there with them more than you with your kids. Like I know these dudes more than like my my extion now but me and my wife at the time, but I knew I knew them better than I knew how to you

know what I mean. Like I'm with y'all every single day, Like we go to go to your room. I'm going to morroom with two or three in the morning, Like we're waking up. You know, we're gonna get coffee, We're gonna do We're gonna eat like nah, stop and that ship really builds up. It's any of the really builds a bound with with people or just really like spending too much time people like ye, your energy you can

go that way. You know what I'm saying the same, Yeah, you want the subway in New York and with clear I've convinced them to take this up. Yeah, because I was trying to get back to the room. Bro, they with the whole team walking into the subway in New York. Yeah, because they don't understand, like where you're taking the bus in the city like this is. First of all, were staying a way uptown when we got to go back downtown.

Then when we then for the game, we're gonna have to go back downtown and then go all the way across town to get to get to E w R. What we're doing all is traveling for five minutes to get on the track over there. Like na, Bro, they're gonna start tripping. They're gonna trip anyway you take the train. They're just gonna say, you're a regular person at one point in time in your life. Now six ft five dudes won't get into the six eight six seven place, you know. Yeah, yall did it first, or maybe and

he did it after. I'm not sure. I think he did it. He did it first. It was dope because he was sitting next to the old girl. Really didn't know who he was. Oh my god, I gotta be a larious further further, look at y'all, y'all make that moment to contact Lebron little way you're laughing, and she's like, y'all, it's crazy because you really think, like to me, like, man, everybody noticed my and so the few people in the world don't just be like, yo, you're serious. That's crazy.

It's fine. You've played against joining Nah in golf, yeah, but not on the court. Yeah. That was a nice floss too. Yeah, No, I ain't no fuss. He kicked my eye. Ain't golf. Yeah. You've played Againstcopie in the game. In the game, yeah, dustin me. He got me. So I'm gonna tell you a funny story about Cope. Right.

So Byron Scott is my coach my rookie year, and Byron Scott like he meantor code coming up and mean that was like o G So yeah, so we shoot around and David we had practice one day and then we played on the next night. So they all day long. Man, listen, you gotta stay down on the pump fake. That's in the thurs day on the pump fake all day shoot around day before the game like all day long, down, stay down on this pump fake. So again, I'm eighteen

checking in the game. It's cold. I'm still like, damn, it's cold, like you know, I mean, I still got to like not legitis, but like, oh ship, but you eighteen, he only been in the table, like he's been in the league a couple of years. If you're coming in after him now, cod was like nine ten years when I when you came in, yeah he was yeah, yeah, he was longer than that. Damn yeah. So uh of course, as soon as you get the ball to dribbles, right,

pump fake, I jumped foul him and one knock it down. Bro, when I tell you this ship happened and like probably all of of eighteen seconds, I think they just got the ball up kicking toners. Like the first literally the first play from when I checked into the game. Acts took me right out. It was like that most young boys ship I've ever seen in my life. I was just like, but it's crazy because like, if you know, cool playing against him, his shot face like he going,

you know he's shooting this ship. Oh he should fuck then you gotta file him. You just can't let him get the shout off. It's like Fund was that dude. He was that dude for real, but now been born. Let me ask you what the fund is the problem with you and Jim Jones? How the job? Man? That was some bullshit from academics. Bro, that he's that's me and Jim is good. I loved Jim. Bro, that's that's beautiful. That's my dog. Bro. I have been around since set

dates like being it's good. Jimmy. Hit me up, Hey man, I'm in you know Asia here, help me get into just this Japanese ARTI ship me and Jim is good. We ain't gonna beet it. So what the deity happened? He was showing a picture of some doing some pull up something and I trowed his page. I was like, yeah, man, you can stopped being scared of me. I heard you can't walk through hard on or some ship. Man. I'm here waiting for you. I'm on one too. Fit was good and he was like it's nothing. We just he

started kind of sucking around back. Meanwhile, me and him about to go meet up his day. So academics made it seem like it was some drama, some beat for some ship. DJ academics. Yeah, but so so. People actually were hitting me up like, hey, man, if you really got I got some people, go go get him. I was like, the fuck you talk, girl, that's my dog,

Like I'm gonna be I'm gonna beat with nobody. Didn't your troll dream chams early on beausewarn you told us at one point and then I did, uh Captain Jack, right, you know what I'm saying that, like, yo, let's do this thing. And I know I'm supposed to come on the show. I just don't really we love you over here, you know. I mean I know I love you know, I know you know, but I love saying to your face we love you know. In fact, he had a phone call we had because we had to straighten it down.

We had yeah Twitter exchange, right, yeah, it's beautiful. I remember that. It was beautiful. It was beautiful and I'm not tripping m I would tell you the truth if I was. If anything, yeah, maybe I inst to get him up, but it was like I gotta love, like I would't even be up here by that same same with us. That's all we is. Love combats love cause

too much energy for the average man. Yes man, and and you know, and I'm extremely you know, proud of you know, because I see it's just the rocket fell of days um and to where you at and I've seen you from the beginning to where you guys are, and it's just beautiful, man. Like that's what all of it is. We spread love, positive energy and and love God.

And I appreciate you saying we don't but the sun is coming out and saying it, I'm gonna start playing golf because golf has brought I don't know why there, Yeah, I don't know why. I don't know, but man, thank you guys, man, both of you guys. And it's always let's make some noise for that man. And thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs hosted by yours truly, d J E F and N O r E. Please make sure to follow us on all our socials.

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