Episode 34 w/ Dame Dash

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him up again, yeah, really big him up again. All right, But one of these guests, the guests that we have right now, we interviewed another guest, and these two people as the most requested guests the system beginning right now, we gotta do who I personally seen take a company from nothing, went and got the bug of y'all binds wrapped it. Niggas never seen the bands wrapped in. Took a company, made it multi MEI and the dollar worth took something. Niggas was wearing Iceberg and we stopped wearing

Iceberg because they made clothes that said fuck that. The nigga brought Polk CAD's for a couple of years. How the fund is that nigga bought the whole company. God damn it. He made movies. He put he personally put me in five movies. If it wasn't for him. I listened. I didn't even want to act that Nigga looked. He hung out with me one day and said, Nigga, I'm putting you in the movie because you were acting. He's really one you Hollywood Norri right now, he's the reason.

And he's also he's also one of my favorite CEOs. Even if even if you guys heard him and you've seen them flip on people, if you take away the yelling and you just take just take away his words, everything that he said meant what we need and what we want as artist. And since he's been out the game, we have not seen that. There's only one other person I could give that love to like I give it to him, and that's IRV Gotti. And since these two people been out the game, the game is not the same.

Before you finish, Before you finish, we've had a lot of legendary rappers. Now we got a legendary CEO. Thank you. Everybody makes some fucking that only a person I look up to, not only my friend, but a person I consider my brother, Dame motherfucking dash Dame dash Um. I don't know how other people look at you. I don't know how other people view you, and guess what, I don't give a fuck me and you both because I look at you like one of the smartest people I've

ever met in life. Thank you, man. I appreciate that. I really do. And from the beginning, from the first time I ever met you, you wanted to make sure everybody was rich around you. How did you develop that model? I mean, you know when we was coming up, that's what our thing was. It was the circle of success, and it meant make all your friends rich, especially like a guy like me. I like to spend minds or

invested as I'm inspired. But if I broke and all my friends got money, all of them, well I gotta do is take a little from each of them and I'm rich again, and it ain't gotta hurt. So it's like, you know, it always made sense to keep your friends rich.

That's basically what the DNA of Rockefeller was, and that's why it was so received so positively, you know what I'm saying, because it was always about making us all of It's like you come up to the club, is one car and twenty niggers walking in the party, or they're your friends and they're taking the bus of the train or uber. You know, that's one thing. It doesn't

look that great. But when all twenty your friends pulls up in a nice equally expensive car, or like let's say, when you go in the club and one guy's buying all the drinks, that course a lot. But when everybody could afford the bottle bottles and there's just one bottle like last night, just like it's like copping. You know, when you cop together, you get them cheaper. You understand what I'm saying, same ship, goddamn, let's make some copping him him, like you know on the street, your homies,

you get them. Just so you know, Dame Dash for the minute we started drink Champion, and you see I sent you a clip and you sent me your your alcohol and we kept it on the table. You know what I'm saying, the postmaster, that's right, that's right. And let me pick up Sunny DBT, which which his instagram is Mr super slis used to be Mines and he loves he loves the whiskey. So let's get into that.

Why did because you did Armadale at first? What you have Remember I have one of the first I have one of the bottles I used to Rockefeller Marketing and so I have that one bottle left in my career. So let's let's why, Like, let's just bring it from the beginning. You guys were selling millions of records, is all good, but you guys ventured out and got alcohol. What happened was for Vindy had bought Universal. Okay, now for people that stupid like me, because I just found

this out. And Vindy is the people who that own Universal, and that's also the people that own Older Water in France. They own some alcohol. They want a lot of ship. But they was like they were putting out I think. But one of them they had they owned like the umbrella company of a liquor. You know, I think the family is a liquor family. Whatever it was. And Biggs was like, yeah, we should try to get you know, the liquor thing on. And you know, we drank vodka.

So basically we only wanted to sell the stuff we was using, and we want to sell sell it exactly the way we liked it, you know what I'm saying. So it was like we might as well make it ourselves because we're guys that are used to making things or you know, buying in volume, you know what I'm saying that or so we were like, that's your mentality to do it yourself, to make it the way you want to sell it. So plus it was like, damn,

we could sell some liquor. But really we was in the game to show everything, you know what I'm saying. It was like the music was really a commercial for everything. But we went into the game looking at it like that. People understand exactly. The first people the first we weren't the first with the cloth like Russell R like it like this. The thing is, when you think Rockefeller, you think jay Z. But when you really when I think Rockefeller, I'm thinking cam MP thought for that. That's right now,

you know what, let me tell you something. I'm gonna tell you my most memorable meet and I haven't had in my life. Right I had. I had did the Spanish record and I brought it to death Jam because remember I was on Death Dam at the time. I brought it to death Jam and I said, I felt bad foot that you had to be on death Jam. Listenna break it down. So look I saw I went through it and Dame, it's a two way that's back in the day. So Dame hit me and said, you got to meet with death here in them a right,

And I said yeah, and he said he this automatically. Yeah, he already knew, like the luminating Yeah, yeah, like that's what people think. So he said, do me a favor, just text me when you're in the building. But he, in my mind just said text, but I meant two ways. It was two ways, so I two ways you. I walked up right, and then I'm in the meeting with Kevin Lows and then you walk in and joint. In my mind it was smoke like when you kicked the door, Like I don't even think you kicked in the door,

but in my mind that's how it happened. You kicked the door, and then it was just maskmore. And then you said fat boy with the fucking And then I looked at myself and I was a little chub. You know what you're talking about, Carol Lives. You said, yo, Kevin Lows, how much money did you approve Noriega's budget? Right? Let me let me, let me, let me let me break it down to you. So mind you he agreed to me like fifteen thirty five thousand and I was good with that, but I didn't know I was a

number one record in the world. You walked in and you said, you said, you just Mariah Carry's budget at five hundred whoever's talking, please shut the funk up, please as a as a gesture, so you said, Mariah Carry's budget is five hundred thousand, l budget is six? Is such a job? Rules budget? And norrious paying y'all lights for two months? I'm not on rocket froller at this time. You just kicked and you you made them give me a hundred and seventy five thousand. You know what they

was gonna do. And I have never had a CEO fight for me before that and then fight for me after that. That was like funny. That was my pleasure. And you got nothing out of it too. You didn't ask me it. I got to make sure you didn't get wrong. Goddamn it makes a noise. What day? How are you so? Like? How do you how did you know that they was about to because they go well number one, they'd be bragging all the time, you know what I'm saying. So we called them quarter water right,

Well I'm not again. I you know, it's a long time ago. So I'm just the quarter water ship. You wanted to know why I called him a quarter warter, please, because they so deaf jam. I didn't acquire half a rocket Feller Universal did and deaf Jam got and Universal had the other. So they only owned a quarter and we're a quarter war and we owned fifty. If you and the thing I said it, I'm like, yo, um you you know y'all, y'all bust down that fifty. We

don't may you'all only on the quarter. You're a quarter water. That's why I called him a quarter warter. I knew that I needed because you know that. You know again, I don't want to distend should up so long ago, but it would be funny to me how they would be front and people would be believing it. You know what I'm saying. You know, like you know, like you're on the block and you know this kid is mad soft. He gets punked all day, but he goes on another

block and pretends he's man hard. Pause and you're just watching this nigga laughing like this is the whole music, This is the whole Like you know, I see this often, you know what I'm saying, So they act smarter than they are. But because I do it every day. I never was an artist, you know, I was a businessman. I'm just running numbers. The math got to make sense to just logic, you know what I'm saying. So every

day I'm going over the logic as a businessman. Like if you're a professional or something, you gotta do it all day every day. So when you're a professional businessman, you focused on there's no way you could be a businessman kind of like a real like me. There's also let me just break down business break down because we don't understand. You could be a celebrity yourself and because of your celebrity, you bring attention to a product, so someone will give you a piece of that product just

because they're using your celebrity. And now you're an owner, but you're not doing no business. You just because you're famous. That's a business. But that's the majority of them at all. That's what celebrities do. They get famous so they could get paid to bring attention and awareness to product. That's exactly what brand and that that's a Brandon Baskett. But I'm the guy that got to get it click and I got to know how to make it I gotta know how to sell it. I got a not distributed.

I have how to pay people, and I gotta make sure everybody get paid, whether I get paid or not. I got to invest invest. I gotta you know me now because I was using name money back then, but then I was like, fucking, I'd rather used my own. So like remember when and paid and the the that that video we did with um Biggie and we was playing with Monopoly money, I mean money, dead president. You

know he's playing with real money. You're staying what I'm saying, like we no, no, that's for know that we don't have money like that, but you know that that was what he was doing at the front. But my point is, if you're doing in business, you're using other people's money.

You ain't using using Monopoly, but it's not yours just moving around And I was feeling like I was playing Monopoly, So I was like, yo, I gotta go use my own cash because I like the way it felt when we played Monopoly with our own money, not Monopoly money. You know what I'm saying. I want to do my own things. So that's a game I like to play because I do it every day because I do it all day. I'm a businessman. That's what I do every day.

All day. I'm thinking business, business, business, business. I know what it's like with monopoly money. It's a lot different with your own. But it's more fun, it's better, so you so I just do business. The question you know, you asked this why I'm good at business? Because I'm a businessman. I'm a professional at it. You asked the football player why he good? Or a basketball player why Cobe good? Because he shit there take that shot in practice a hundred times. That's why George is nice. He

didn't just get nice. It's his disciplined. So in business, I'm just very disciplined. I don't have the time to be playing around. I don't. That's why they be ask I just don't have time for fluff. I need to get to the business. I need to math, and I got to get to getting my money back because somebody got to get paid or somebody get suit. What you see I always do, you know, it's just business. I'm my game is like the actual business. I like to flip.

You understand what I'm saying. I like the way it Philippus to get a new drug and make it flip all over again, like these blue bottles and these brown bottles. You know what I'm saying. But I like it, but I'm feeling I'm loving the hustle of it like I'm doing it because I just love it, like I'm burnt out. You know what I'm saying. I can't help it. It's the game. But also now I'm like I did to other people's money, let me see if I can do it with my own. And it's so much more fun.

You understand what I'm saying. That's why you gotta do it like that. But I learned that years ago. But when you went entrepreneur, and niggas know because they'll be in the street no matter how long you hustle, no matter when you gotta run or you don't. It's always a grind. You can't never let the block, just leave it alone. You want to block all day or whatever. You whatever you're doing is always a constant struggle. So

when you choose business, you you're choosing the struggle. You know, when you're getting paid and you're getting like leverage and celebrity and ship like that, you're not choosing the struggle. You're doing it to get paid you understanding equity and that that. But I'm just saying also the game, like if you play basketball and you don't love basketball, it's torture. But most people that play basketball would do it for free. That's the game. That's the trick. Get paid to do

something that you would do for free. That's what we're doing. That's you just you just you just brought up Biggie Smalls. Right, what's what's a great memory you can share with us. Biggie was great. We'll give us one that very monopoly money. You know me. I had to triumph and we got into a drinking contest. I gotta get into the drinking con We're going to a drinking content. Remember, let's skills your Biggie Smalls drinking contest. No, no, no, I was

definitely not there Amsterdam. Try you remember that day he tried us and no, I think it was even We drink all the and then remember my friend you all around the world, all around the world. This is a fact. You built me to be a drink chad No, all around the world, a drink champ all around the world. Battle in London, yes, and an I love used to be in my cripnding. We went to there. Here the pool. Let me, this is the first time I ever seen an indoor pool in Europe. Let's make some noise for

that guy. Let me tell you something. Y'all was so rich. Man, you listen. I know you're rich steal still, but you look. Biggest told me, he said, you come outside. You're whoever talking, Please, you're sucking us up. Whoever talking, you can go outside. You talk as much of you want. But the Biggest called me one day he said, you'll come outside. I said, all right, cool. He said you take a trip with me. I was like, I bet we pulled up Teeter Borrow. I'll say, yo, what long? What the fund is this?

I understand He's said, I'm gonna close up on the drawers. He's a slide. We buy that when we land. We get that you land, Yo, My nigga ain't gonna front. Y'all is my favorite. CEO's my nigga. We really miss y'all. Bigs Dame Dash were just hauling nigga. That's all. Let's make some god. You know, like like life, everybody dances, but you know, some people dance better than others. Some people play ball, you can get the shot, but it's the way you look when you get the shot, you

know what I mean? Which was crazy? We when when when when it was like, you know, everything was breaking up, I still had to do a rocket Fellows shoot somewhere right and my boy, Big Maid though, Big Matal, we went to the photo shoot and they only had clothes for me. A Big Matal said, I misstatesh I like, damn nick, I said, I said, what happened? He said, when Dame dodsh was here, he made sure everybody have clothes. And it was something just so simple like that that

you're booted. My whole cruise morale, every touch, every every piece of Come talk to the mike, Come talk to the mic. Come on, you really had every piece of clothing and state property too, I mean every hoodie, scully, that's anything, same property too, I had. Shouldn't everybody be fresh the whole? But but with Dame everybody, don't think how you feel like everybody fresh? But I like everything.

You know how important that was? Like yesterday, I'm not yesterday, but a couple of days ago I went to puff Daddy crib. I gotta keep throwing out there because I'm Flass too, and the Puff Daddy crib and Puff did something very important. He went and he shaked all my friends hands and he asked for all their names. A lot of people don't do that. And Big Madal, Big Matal,

we love your Big Maidal. Wherever you at, he pointed out, He said, your woman Dame was around everybody, Big Matal wall six x. He is this but so y'all had to do a special order for him. You feel me and the minute like I'm saying, but isn't that fun? You know? You know, you know, isn't it fun to be like, yo, everybody fresh on me. I don't understand how that's not fun to people, you know, you know what, everybody, let's go, let's go. Everybody happy like that's the best ship.

And you're the only other CEO that. When I went on tour, because we did to pay the full tour. You remember that me and Cameron Um. Cameron had light headlined the night when his record one, because remember we had Old Boy and and Nothing Homeboy. I came to party at the same time. So if CAMRA's record that week, camera were closed the next week, if I wanted to

be a close but it was love. He was clicking though, right like the way our logic was was always mad, That's all day and always during that Aid and Fault tour, you made sure the gear was there, You made sure we was okay. You made sure that we called you instead of Kevin lylesstead of all. Why why would I want you to call some white man? Don't disrespect but I'm not white. You understand what I'm saying, so I'm not saying it on the racist. And you also you

also allowed me to have a barber on tour. You didn't. You didn't be because you think it'd be any other way because every other CEO beef through me when I said, but I'm but I'm a crazy one. Yeah, you also allowed me to have a wee budget. I've bought two pounds on you. That's the fact. Let me just say the ship this has always been one problem you've always had. And you might still tell me you never fully know you're worth dad, damn it, I don't. That would be

the problem, That's what I'm saying. I'd be like you. You don't understand how big poor you are. You understand what I'm saying. Like you, MORI nig can't. Nobody can put on you. You know what I'm saying, like you. So, for example, my neigh was talking and he was like, you know already knew what they was gonna try to do, right, so I knew he was coming in the building for the video. Yeah. No, I'm talking about when I went and did that with Okay. For me, I have to

move different to protect niggers. You know what I'm saying, because if they know I'm coming, what's his name is to have a lot of buzzer lock on his door. It doesn't like called the Dame buzzer because I you know, how do I just walk in? But I'm not walking into disrespect. I'm walking in to save you. I'm just like, they're not gonna let me save you. You understand what I'm saying. You know this is what they were. Don't understand.

All I tried to do is save everybody and that was very dangerous and disruptive to them, and it still is. You still, like, think about it. The minute I got on the radio, I'm like being your own boss. You know what I say, I would smoke my ship. I'm like John, if you don't like me, I'm telling you this is the wave. You can do it yourself. Fuck these niggers that you know what I'm saying, whatever you're staying.

What I mean, every time I've ever had a platform, I'd be like, I just like having the note in the hand, like the man. I'd be like, as soon as I get in there, I'd be like, yo, trust me, these guys are suckers. Like the suckers go for it. They're leaving. You're wrong. They're not letting you know you're worth because you don't ask for it. But you saw as soon as you ask for it, you got it. And that's why someone do this in front of him. So what I said when I was like, y'all just

tell me when you're going to building. There't anybody to tell me what you do. Won't even tell me. I don't tell people I'll be awesome super chess. So I should gotta move because I'm just trying to make history. I want to be the best and everything. So leth then So look, so we got there. I knew to go upstairs, and then I knew because I looked at their budgets. I knew the just was because they was comparable to my budgets right, So I knew whoever we know when he was going, I knew he was doing

their compors completely unprotected. And that's the day I don't understand. Like somebody come on my block and they cool people, and I see they're about to do something that might get them put in jail or killed. I'm gonna tell them and I protect them because I know just because they don't know no better than mean, I gotta robble and that the fact. Let me educate them because they're

gonna appreciate that, plus and making better. You want more team players, the more niggers that think are like that stick together. Like it don't make sense that we don't stick together. Really, that's the biggest problem, Like family, like I know personally, like we don't stick together. That's the problem with niggas. They don't stick They were rapping. Everybody always wanted food. They could do it on their own. You know why, because that's the dude that gets all

the girls. You know what I'm saying. But that's it. But the bottom line is it don't make no. That's my only logical explanation for me, because it'd be like, damn, why niggas don't want nothing? Like, why do Nigga is the only want to be the only one with the nice car. I think it's more flosan when your crewl got If everybody in here rich, that makes me look crazy rich. So the more better you look, the better I look. It's logical. Let's make some noise for day

making me. You just say what I'm saying. I tell that to my cruel all day. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. We flew out here thirty five deep and we did a show for the radio station k d K ain't buy not one flight. We did it. We did it on our own. But the thing is, we can't say we did it first. You dudes did it first. But that's the model. No, we just was the first to let nigger is no how to listen. Everything we was doing, everybody was doing, but

I was giving up the game. I'm like telling like most people when it once, they get the game. But me, I'm like, I'm trying to tell everybody. Think about it. That would think about any experience you had where an executive trying to tell you how to do it on your own. See, that's my thing. I'll be like, yo, I'm gonna get you with me. We might get some money together. But at the end of the day, I can't just rob you if you're my nigger. Pause? Why with you like that? I can't rob you just because

I could. Don't you know what I mean? But what I'm saying is, you know me. Man. Now I'm gonna tell yourself. What's happening here? That's right, that's right, that's right. I don't know whatever happened to here, some old just some radio show ship, remember an I'm watching Funny with It, loving it. You know. I'm like somebody, Let you think about if you did anything else same we ever keep talking, you would be the same response. It's a lot of people's you do think think about your What did I

tell you last time we spoke. I was like when you first hit me, I was like, run um dame that studios Miami, let's make movies. No, and that's it. And but we're also signing your podcast. You commit into us? Correct me? And e FN is gonna want want to do your pocket We want to do Champ work, drink Champs network. Okay, okay, but listen, he said, he said, let me tell you. I want you to be my boss. I want to say, guys, I'm not It's a partnership. Were doing the way you were doing. We do the

podcast partnership. It's a partnership day. This is the funniest It's the funny ship. You mon, Yeah, listen, So Randy, Randy's my guy. You flipped on him on camera, Randy tell truth. Do you think he's had a lot of nerves? But Randy Acer would sit there and tell Nikkas how to act like niggas. I didn't want to go there, but I just say I'm not mad at him. It would just be funny, all right. But it's like easy work, you know what I'm saying to be, like, come on,

I gotta pick you up. Let me finish big. So Randy Acre the other day he says to me, He goes, I don't like that lions Gate. It was like lions Gate was hitting me direct. So he goes, I don't like that lions Gate hit you direct. And I said, see when Dame Da told you that you you said that he was wrong, and he thought about it. He looked, I said, you old things. Dare was apology and he said, yes, I do. Can I break this down to you? Why

doesn't he like them? Hit an't you direct because the same reason the union, like just telling me, I don't know, I don't know, because he won't eat him. Once he goes directly to you, he won't have any job anymore. But then whatever percentage he's getting, he ain't gonna get it no more. It's gonna go in your pocket. Man, he's good. You don't think that he thinks that they take advantage of him? Was that your be because that's what you said? And was that wasn't there company? It

was mine? So how you having a meeting about my artists and it's not my company? But you know you don't want to go there, like yeah, so you know because that ship is in my rear view. But it's hilarious and it's documented. That's what that's why document? Why did you document that? Because why do you think I needed a witness? You knew, you knew he was. I think about I always had a camera all this ship,

y'all just caught up. I've been waiting for right. I always had a camera, but it was you know, number one, people always say I'm doing it, I'm not and make it look like it's not. So I hired choked the time to tape everything. No, no big up to him. Well, first of all, that footage his mind that he'd be putting on the thing, Yeah like he would, he would. You know, he's the boot like mice. Oh that's the last days of rocket Fellers. That's my footage, that old mine.

But you know, I guess he made dubs and ship and you know that's what he's doing. Get to that when I feel like it's just peggy buddy, so I don't even care, but it is disrespectful. But also he ran on me in Paris when I got jumped. You know, so I got jumped in Paris by about twenty niggers on you know, was choke ran choke ran, parrissed. He was in Paris. Let me tell you you had the bloody sneakers in your office because how rich you are, just had sneak in your office because no, the first up,

I hadn't never got jumped before. That was crazy. I'm saying a lot of niggers like he was walking and ship and you know I'm taping in all this and they started like yelling and ship and fretch and for no reason, we chokes like them niggers. I'm like, so we're walking the ship or setting a big African run up, try to take the camera. Swung on them. Fun. This was in the hood in fat packs. I didn't know. I don't know he was going to do a radio show. I didn't know, you know what I'm saying. I don't

know what it was. But some girls, you know, I was, you know, a couple of my home well with Biggs Cordie b I was just chilling. I wasn't trying to get into no problems with nobody. But anyway, he tried to take the camera, so I swung on it. But you know, you had that look in his eye like he was a big African hern you're a boxer, well, you know you're gonna be in the street. It is logically get nice in your hands a lot. But I'll be seeing you be spressing niggas. You be wanting to

feel to one for years year. I mean, somebody a fair one is all that really counts a fair one in the hood. If you got guns and he's got guns the whole I need to feel one true real nigga. You gotta shoot that fairly. And if you don't, everyone around. You're not supposed to respect you. That's it, Like it's no more to talk about what I want. I want a knife for nigger respect because I want to talk about me. Now, yeah, that's my perspective. That's what I'm saying.

Everything wrong, I'm saying from my eyeballs. That's the cough I'm cut from. So you're embarrassed. So I'm in parish. They ran up, took the camera. I swung on him, stick and choked rand whatever. But all sudden they started to to mace everybody. They had mas. Everybody had mass, like the whole block. Like I was, we want like a block, you know how nigga to be on the block. Everybody hustle. They that's the type of ship that was going. The collapsed and we went from like lovely day to Vietnam.

Like I was like, oh ship and I was in front of girl. So I was like, I'm not running, you know what I'm saying all that, so you know, jacked. But he got up and ship, you know, I'm gonna take a fit. When he started pulling out the best ship snipper was have a gun, but he pulled it out. It wasn't a gunna throw us at nighte. So I took my jacket off and tried to like smuggle, but I said, oh, ain't on nie, I'm gett a fair one.

So we started fighting and ship I swim crack. I get cracked because you know, he had one of them ships next whatever it was, had hat on. Every time he catty was black. But I'm like catching this nigga, you know what I'm saying like that and everybody else that kind of ran already, and all of a sudden, I'm getting jumped by everybody, and I'm getting tired, and I'm like, oh the record, choke, no joke, definitely ran. Listen, listen, let me tell you Johnny, you know photographer Johnny John

Johnny ran. Then he came back. He plays camera. He no, no, I'm looking at him. He come back swinging his camera. But why are you swinging there like that? Because that's how he was like, That's not what I'm doing anyway, swinging the camera. I came through and I'm on the floor to get kicked. He kicked me up and I didn't know. I thought I had just jumped back up and he told me later I started swinging. I'm tired. I tried to swing one more time, fell get my

hands and all that ship. John John was like, we gotta get out of here. So you said, you're driving, you have a driver everywhere? You know, they were gone drivers and what was going on anyway? So I'm swinging my chains, I too change, I'm swinging the ships like yeah what but because they you know, I had caught a couple of niggers, do you know what. I caught a couple of dudes. He was fighting, you know what I'm saying. So so I'm like I'm walking and you

know they went, they fell behind. The cops came took me to the hospital. I was like, take me to American hospital. They was mad at me because I wouldn't speak. You know, that might not happen, you know what I'm saying. Choke pulls up to the hospital with a school driver and he's like where they had? Now, No, that's what he did. Yeah, if you look at International Bridgly, we covered the whole thing. Guys to have a camera with

me because we still like run around, you know. We used to fill the jet up and go from like you know, like I used to run around and I would do after about did you hear it? Said? Feel? There's a lot of us here would never know how that feels, did you. I want you to be clear. The reason why we could do all that is because we have the businesses, so we had the cash or the businesses was paying for all that. But the way

I would justify it was, this is our lifestyle. People are buying into it, and I'm not the artist and I'm not supposed to be here. So I'd be like, yo, if I'm gonna be outside and make noise, I have to really be able to make noise. So the companies would throw down on it. But I just knew how to spend the money like a hall. I'm dude, you know what I'm saying. Like that was just that's what I was doing. And that's the reason why I was like, yo, was everybody, It's not even my bread. You know, it's

coming out in my pocket. That's what I'm telling right now. It's not your bread anyway. I just feel bad for you still got to do that. It was like nor you still got to go through that. I remember. That's how you see you see that reaction. That's how I feel with the music business. When I start hearing those names, I'm like, I just I'm gonna start yelling out names. Why I want to. I'm gonna know when you brace your face, it's not so bad. He's you know, it's

all good. I think you know, I definite already did that with him. So you know what I'm saying, Everybody know how I feel about it. Again, guys that have these guys have black people's jobs. They've taken jobs that black people should have, and I get aggravated. So you see how I didn't like the way they was trying to rob you, right, Really, it really wasn't me that I didn't dislike them for the way they treated me. I'm gonna get mine. I didn't like them for the

way they treated y'aw. You understand why I don't work for them. I don't have to work with them. That's why I can speak on it. I'm just you know, it's just I don't like seeing my people, my brothers, people I care about just being abused. So let me like, I I want to do fashion, I went did art, like I did everything. You know what I'm saying that

I'm not. Music is like, even though I love listening to music, I love it more as a fan and where I could do it, like like be art about it, like do the art thing and ship That's why I opened up our gallerpies like that. He was the first art definitely. So let me ask you the question I had a collective. Remember I had a television network, like like what created control? Maybe like seven two nine? Yes, yeah, so I had another question. But now I just I just I looked a glance and paid them for but

still playing? Did you are you on it? Don't you like to go to the side of a television screen and you might deal on it? That happens a lot happening. That's what made you want to do pay the for? Like I lived it, and and there's another thing I was there. Sometimes I speak to you, I'm not sure you really understand how much of a classic paying for? Why do you think that? No? Because you like it's just me and you speaking when I speak and stay property.

Why do you but whine? Because because I'd be like, yo, yo, what am I doing that you're gonna come like? And then you're like, I should be it was good, I should be frond I want you to front more like it's that bad. It's not bad. I want you because I want because one day I was SA, say, Dame, I don't know. I don't own it a hundred percent. That's why I'm want happy. That's what I'm saying. Like I used my own bread. Like you see, people have

different winds. Sometimes people wanted to look like a win. But can I can? I put your't win to me, man, I gotta do it with my money to be a real wind. I met her. I met an old lady that lived in my hood for but no disrespect to it. It's the best in the word. I'm meant an old lady that lived in my hood my whole life. Her name was Randa. Right where's the busy act? It was the name Rhonda. Good morning Vietnam and I have to so listen, so listen. So Rhonda RD lives in left

Rack my whole life. And Randa told me. She said to me one day, she said, I don't own this, but this his minds. And that made total sense to me because what I mean is she lived there for thirty years. That don't make sense to me. She didn't own it, but it was her. It's not I know, but there's people who think like that. I'm not one of them. Okay, you don't agree with it doesn't work for me, and you know you can do that, but that's just not me. Okay, Now let me ask you this.

I'm sorry. There's a word called black ball. Hey, yo, do you think do you think because you know black ball but you're enjoying? Told me that people told me I was black balled. I didn't. I didn't feel it. Do you think that that that that that exists with you? Do you think you were a black balled? Or if anyway couldn't like logically without emotion, the only way I could be black balls is if they were in the industry I wanted to be in. So it's like you

with the fashion. That's not why I went to fashion. But do you feel you it was black balled? Like I just told you? Like put it like this. Let's say I'm on a black and I'm selling Nickels, and I leave the block and I never come back ever to so Nickels. That businessesn't affect anymore whatever goes on politic wise, or whether I can or not. Dame ain't got no flies on all this. It doesn't matter. I'm not going over. So they could say anything they want

when I'm not coming back. I think they were saying that just so I could try to come back and prove this. I'm just not doing it. Man, I can't get you. Why why it's not enough money in it? What you enjoy the businessman? Logically, why would I do it? I don't know, because this just piss on people. But the thing is I make joy. Listen, thank you now you see tell him because I think you know that he enjoyed, just like you know. I just you know, you know, I put like the Black Keys like a

rock group with your blue rock black listen, listen. You could go Google like black rock could talk. You could do that. You can do don't say that, but you don't very nice my pace. You could try it, you know you old school, you just got in the path. Have you tried? And it was difficult? Yes? What did you do? I Google like some bullshit? Seven pages popped up born and I was like, what the Fuck's that? Google? Google? What did you do? Google the sandwich? What did you

do wrong? And they showed me images of a real sandwich, saying what did you do wrong? What did I do wrong? No? I'm just not that smart no, no, said he only likes using phones. You don't want to do you have to know the guy who wrote on the yellow bus it was laughed at them, nigger man, get out of yellow resource room was a special education but not you know where the resource room is and what in school the resource room because he was in a smart class. No I was. I got kicked out. I got my

g D money. Yeah, I was in the resource room. That's like the special it's like seven specialists. No, I was a lower than special speaking resource room. You got sever So what you're telling me is your smartest stupid nick in the world. So damn dash right. But anyway back to the black ball pause. Yeah, please, I didn't feel it. If that's if it was happening to have fun, I hope they felt better. You know. I send my regards into that world. You know, it's just not my bubble.

I'm in a different bubble, you know what I mean. Like it don't matter, you know what I mean. But I do wish everybody will to be honest. Welcome to play a new podcast network featuring radio and TV personalities, talking business, for tech, entertainment, and more. Play it at play dot It. We're back to Drink Champs Radio with Rapper and R and d J. Then now dip set the rock stars, the what the rock parts of the rock stars like to meet with, But they were the

rock stars hall of niggas, you know what I mean? Now, it was this true that you made Cam the vice president, and that like started like turmoil, like, well, I mean you want drink Champs. This is not I didn't get upset upon anything. Explain. I mean, you know your question, you know they answer you. You're really smart nigga. Wasn't you know? You know, if I'm a real smart nigg I'm gonna pretend I'm stupid exactly. That's what I was saying. I know what he's doing. Could play alone? Do it.

What happened was, can just take you from my perspective? This is all I know. This is so me. I like to empower everybody. Right, So I had given Cam or we had given Cam a labeled dip set. We ain't given being a labeled stay property. So my thing was just title wise, if you had a label, then you could be considered a vice president. That's all I meant. You understand what I'm saying. That's it nothing, nothing, more,

nothing less. And of course Cam being the hall m dude that he is, when and made an announcement and made it sound fly, I'm the vice president. He never said anything else, go back and hit an interview, and then all of a sudden the door. All of a sudden, everybody was mad about it, like you know, like when you said everybody, well, there was like a call. You know, we made a call. I had it. We did, we did.

I gotta remember this ship because you know Jay was taking his first vacation the first time you mentioned Jay before me. Just that's cool. But you asked me, you know, you asked me a question that would invoked me saying it. That's set up to me. I mean that you know we're going there, that question. I have to night. I just wanted to fast and I ain't bring him off, and you didn't bring him up. You asked me about the vice presidency a Rockefeller anything that is bringing it up.

Now you want to have you all right? You are right right, continue being smart guys. Smart When this smart guy said, I'm just gonna be honest. So, um, there was a call and everybody was on it, and I don't have to get into the names, but they were just everybody was just worried, and I just couldn't understand why it was like But the thing was, no one was acknowledging that Beans was the vice president as well, not even really Beans, you know, saying. I was like, Yo,

You're like, we had this conversation. So I just think, Uh, when people are worried about perception more than the reality, it sometimes causes confusion. Always Stay Property put it like this. As a man, I don't want to be around other men that are confused about things or from my visions. So I'll be like a And if you remember, I

had moved that door, cull that door. If you remember, I had moved out of Rockefella with the rock Wear I was so My thing was it was out of like loyalty to to Rockefeller that I was still leaving fucking with Rocket. I was already done with that ship. I was older. I wanted to do other things. If you remember made Paying the Full, I made movies. I didn't even want to do music unless there was a movie component to it. That's why I made Stay Property.

Because we had Stay Property to label Stay Property the clothing line. We would make a compilation album where they didn't have to go out of none of their personal budgets, but they would all be able to get videos. Understand what I'm saying, and then if anything cracked, then boom. You know what I mean, Let's make some loys a dame perspective because a lot of people don't know that there's no recouping is obvious. But you know why, you

know why you're thinking of its obvious. You're thinking it's obviously between us, but a lot of people in the world don't know that, Like, yeah, well I know it's not a secret. So stay property. Right. So then if you look at the movie, you see you you saw the armor, there was in it, the rocket whare was in it. Every single thing that we were selling, including

the music was in it. And if if you do the logic, who is the biggest artists basically of all time musically, I would say Elvis right over all music and Elvis really was really say Jack Michael Jackson got they're comparable the Beatles. That was, well, everybody your name made movies. Everybody name. I just set you up to say that you don't stand what I'm saying, Like that was is that why you did Street watching, it makes

sense to make movie. Yeah, we just we did street just watching because we did that Sunshine video and we had the shiny suits trying to be like Homeboy and it didn't work out. He was Homeboy, yeah, because big up got there. I don't even and the shot me suit was doing this ship and like hype like gave him, gave pause. Jada Banan and the tailpipe, so you wasn't. The first treatment had Jay's nose as a balloon and plopping it. I was like, yo, how you trying to

make us look stupid? Dog? We don't argument about it, but anyway it came out. You know what I'm saying. You know what it was like clowning us. So I like, fucking man, We're gonna go back into the streets, just watching and do the best ide because I like the beasts. I really don't like singles. I hate singles because I wanted to be the first to know. I don't like when everybody knows something and everybody I like to be the nigger that no ship, that nobody know. I like that.

I don't want to do. I never the thing. I don't understand sand It's not logical, like people want to be like everybody. That's like, I don't ever want to be like anybody. I want to be like me. You understand what I'm saying. I do anything I can to make sure I look like I have my own point of view. I don't want to look like everybody. Somebody. If I still wearing something of the magazine, I'm not wearing it. So was that a musical state. It was the B side and it was videos, but it also

had a component of acting in it. So we just brought the B sides of the life because they were movies anyway, they were like true stories. And then it's also a visual, you know what I'm saying, Like every visual you have something like a movie. In a movie, you can sell everything, the clothes, the music can be sold. So that's why I'm like, Damn, I make movies and I make the products. You know, I could be my own country, you know what I'm saying, Like, I ain't

got to talk to nowhere. All I need I don't need a million people, I need a hundred thousand cut the thousand. All I need is real people that can understand the taste that I have and that I can connect with pause and just sell it all to them. And that's why I make a liquor. That's why I make clothing, That's why I make socks, that's why I make motor oil. You know, That's why I just make ship.

Thank you. But you know again, I just did it just to be that that was one of the companies I did, just to do it to be like stunting to say I sold motor oil, because nobody did it from the world, so I just said could. I just like to do ship. That's how my perspective is, and I like to be able to say I did it with my own money or independent or figuring it out, whatever way it is. I'm addicted to the game, you know what I'm saying, Like, I just like the game,

and I don't like playing with other people's money. That's not the game. But watching Faky Dog, it's like we're in a fake jersey. You understand what I'm saying. If you're saying you're in business and you're using somebody else's bread, that's like having a fake jersey. That's that's that's that's the fakey, fakey, and I don't do fakey fakey, and I started feeling fakey fakey balls. I don't like fake thing. That's what endorsed. The streets is watching, streets is watching.

Going back to that, I just got on another tangent because you know, I start no problem just when you you know what it is, when you started making me think about when other people were putting up the money and aggravates me, I'm no longer aggravated because his mind, you know, it's like you know what I mean, it's like it's your own money. Now. We had to put

it up first. Then they gave it up. They gave it because I was like, fun, y'all told me all because what happened with we had put that that that that video out, you can't get a nigg behind and thinking he's gonna go all kind of you know what I means, that's what has happened. When we put the video a lot, it was because you know, we knew it made us corny and you know you'll straight up was like, yo, y'are cold. We didn't giving you no

more bread. Wait, but but after Sunshine video, y'all had your separate meeting and y'all your felt like y'all was cold, So we didn't feel it. We knew it. You know what it was like. It was like, oh that ship, look we got the ship was whacked. It wasn't us, it was us trying to be like them, and it was obvious the ship was wet, so you know what

that should happened. So what all right? And now we're gonna double back and we're gonna give them streets just watching so they know we're not the shiny suit niggers. So that I was like, Yo, hey, it was my d you know it was my because what are you doing right there? Howl like, yo, get the get the hardest record, pause on the record, and I just want to see some guns and bullets flying. And then at the end I want to say it was senseless because I didn't want it to be looked at as we glorifying.

It was just that's how it was started shooting for no reason. That's what it's like. That's actually the ship we're trying to get away from. You know, you gotta remember the reason why Rocket Feller was Rockefellers, because we did a lot of white people ship. I always made sure that we were the name. That's what I'm saying. I would just entertaining were imitating white people. It was it wasn't like be better the black people that you know they're sailing to me was kind of low just

because of what's been shoved in our brain. This is the mentality I'm going with your mentality. I wanted to stunt on you. I wanted I wanted that kind of money, and I'm not gonna stop. And I don't want to look like I have that kind of money. I need to have that kind of money. And I'm not a celebrity. Understand, Like, I got to sell work. I don't sell fame, So my work got to be good. You understand what I'm saying makes some noise. That was all love before you

before I got something. I forget, before I forget one of my got you got a lot of questions. Drunk Yeah, one of my favorite artists. You're not drunk, drunk facts, drunk facts. We all he's good. He's good. One of my favorite artist, big El, Yeah, I need to know was he supposed to be? Was he going to Rockefeller? Yeah? That was big That was my man. Pauls Like that

was my dude. But you know, um, initially I was managing in the beginning, beginning, beginning, it was the children of the Corn and made and it was made part of kind of him gruff, Cam, Bloodshed, whose Kim's cousin who passed? Yeah, you know. And then you know the thing was they were from like we love you, Cam, come on, that's my brother. Um. You know Busher was from but Cam was from a hunting forty forty you

know what I'm saying. So I used to see him when I was uptown and I would also see him downtown. So we was all kind of close. Pauls and like Cam, he was like, let's say him in the game manager. Yeah, so you managed Jake the Corn and don't get Yeah, but not in the same you know. It was different ships. Like my career has been ill, but as far as big elt goals, yeah, I was gonna sign him. But my point is our history. I was giving you our history.

And also we all knew each other, like it wasn't like it was some ship where it was like we knew each other really from day to day being in the street, big Eel, like we'd be on the block, like you know what I'm saying, You've got a thirty nine, I'm from forty second, but you know, like I'm from eleven Night nine, but I used to be on Hunting in forty second and I would call that my block. You know what I'm saying. And it was I saw a big Eel all the time. You understand at me.

So when I got the music business, it was we would talk and you know he was he had he was Big Eel had the first deal, he had like a single deal with Colombia, and he had Indy when entertainment. So yeah, and you know and even like, uh, you know, one day, Jay actually battle Big Eel on a Hunting thirty nine street. You're talking about battles, that's what used to DMX. Yeah, jay Z, Yeah yeah, that was in the baby shop in the Bronx who okay, Jay one.

DMX told me he won. I think I think DMX for what he wanted to do, what he did went, but for what he needed for me. He can installed my friends that he was real because they used to tease me about Jake. You understand what I'm saying. Well, so I didn't understand what you're saying. You know, like a Brooklyn dude, So you know, hall them dudes. Don't just accept Brooklyn dudes. You know what I'm saying back then, and Jay swag was a little different, like just look

at it, you know, saying, look at Hawaians, Sophie. It's completely different than Rockefeller Jay. You understand what I'm saying. So I used to get teased for Brooklyn Niggers. So basically I will come up town and all day my crew, the best out would tease me all day about the snake. He know what I'm saying, Like like, just you know, tease me about the fact that this swag was different, you know, fast rapping. We don't want that. That's why the battle happened because it was teasing me so much.

And I just I knew what Jay was, but no one else really, So how did this battle happen? No? No, no, I made my man Steve Mac, Steve Mac. Yeah, Steve macis from three and he was managing these guys when and damn m can remember everybody, They're gonna be mad at me. But when and it was less oils uh and uh hallom nights, the hallom nights, hallom nights, right, so the hallom nights. Damn glad, I remember that ship.

That's what DMX said on the pocket and and and you know, me and Steve mc went to high school together, but he was also in the best stout. I'm from Linux from Bardway that we was like it was a crew of us. We were some different blocks, you know what I mean, but we always to be out tough every day and we rather like laugh and be fighting. So they used to be shipping on me every day because original, you know, I'm from a I'm from a crew of hardcore people. I'm in the extreme circumstance. That's

not what they was talking about. Like Ja used to rap fast and he didn't dress the same, you know, it was different. And then also the original flavor they weren't like gangster rappers. It was about jazz. It's about music. They didn't get that at all. And I was like, you guys only see hood ship and I'm trying to get away from that ship. But I knew they could rat, so I was like, let's we set up a battle,

so I'm tolways argue hard every day. And the tone Hooker's original flavor Talker, the one he was an original flavor of Ski. Tone Hooker was the one that made the name of Rockefeller. Yeah I heard that. Yeah, that's the true. I heard that before, so so boom we ended up. So we had like I mean, we all meant about the Gaucho Jim and the Bronx, right, and then we headed over and Tone Hooker had Tone Honker's man was in a wheelchair. I actually think I saw him in the picture with my o g Damniel the

other day. I gotta ask that was hiding. But he on the barber shop because we had to meet on like a on like a neutral ground. So we got in there and we got the battle, and Big Yellow taped it. I mean, yo, see that Big El tape. It was crazy though, that's Biggs who said that on Yeah. Look look but a lot of ship happened. But um uh Jay's part we take. Why I wouldn't let us take because because we hadn't got it didn't because his

ship wasn't copyright. So in your opinion, Jay did win that battle, because I'm telling you in my perspective, like the next Gary like Bigs and bob Baab called me and was like, yo, he said that money dancing on the seeler ship and Nigga saw the vision but he could rap it, you know. And then the lifestyle had

to come with it, you know. So you gotta remember, like the rocket Feller was really a variation of my original crew, the best out, you know what I'm saying, and our things like we would throw all of us used to throw money together so it looked bigger. I think it was a lot of flash little cash, and we was young, as you said, a lot of what a lot of flash now cash, low cash, a lot

of flash cash. But you know, back like some of my crew would be like you know, we would like we were like like me, I used to think I'm on some white boy ship. I'm thinking about trying to white people money. But some of my other crew, Biggs a twin, that's it. You know, he allt here with one hundred dollars. Listen, listen is it? He came to Vegas for three days with eighty bucks and he made it back home that your money, money is not party man,

is not current to you're wealthy, is your happiness. Money doesn't get you where you gotta go. You get you where you gotta go. Either way, you're gonna get the money or you don't need money to do ship. Really, that's what I'm saying. Money was putting to control our brain. Do you think you honestly? Like they got a billion dollars, but he's unhappy? Is he rich? Why don't all these rich people be killing themselves? They have to press You

have to be to kill yourself. You understanding, like a lot of people that are looked at as wealthy end up, you know what I mean? And it happens often. That's when you become a slave. The money. Money is dark dog and it was put there to fucking blind you. You know what I mean, Like act like like Champagne game, you know, like all that ship that I did. It was like we got the bread, I'm spending that money. We're gonna have fun and not just me, all of us all. But it was it was about having fun.

What's the purpose of having money if you ain't going no fun with it? And if fun isn't seeing the people that are deserve it just as much money as you, then your perception and your of your reality is just different than my stay over there. I don't want no part to that. I'm not gonna lie. Let's make some noise for That's why that's why we got to jing Bang like do podcast about to set off chick bank, Mike move, tell him what ask you a question? Okay,

let's go. What did you think about the whole thing? Let me ask you a question the whole one after after the rocket Feller break up, what happened? Because you was a rocket feller with it? Nobody ever asked you that, Like nobody ever asked me that happening. I was confused, but what happened? I didn't ask the emotion? Tell me what happened? I was. I was. I'll be honest with you. You know what I knew. How dope it was. I'm telling them, I'm getting into it. It's like you, so

listen what it was? That bottom line? It was never the same. And what happened to your situation? So Rockefeller breaks up and you have to do whatever? What the situation did they put you in? And then what happened? Um, the situation was just crazy. Because Rockefeller broke up, then um l a Read had to go. Well. I had no relationship with L. A Read and I didn't think he wanted a relationship with me at the time, So I have to be released. I asked to be released.

I realized Cam had asked to be released first, and they gave him his release paper. What happened was we demanded that can be released when they made a president because it was a conflict. We already knew he had an issue, so he was no way he can got to stay here. So l A. Red did the I think about l A. Read is when you got in front of him, he always did the right game. Yeah,

it's a great guy. So, um, once Cam had got released, and then I believe it was like a method Man or red Man project, and I realized that they didn't spend the market in dollars that was supposedly UH should have been spent. So what I did was I did the same. I followed Cameron's um footsteps, and I asked to be released. And I left trying to remember what happened. I left up out of there. I can't remember what hap what with me afterwards? Oh that's pretty much what

I just said. Yeah, I mean, um, what did he just say? I said that what I said, Cameron had asked to be based and once cameeron, but that you had iterated something else after Cam, you have to be released. Yeah, I actually released because all the artists had been like it was like it was crazy because again I didn't really want to have a label. I wanted to do a fashion thing, but I wasn't gonna leave everybody out there because everyone when it got dropped. So I was like,

all right, I just made Game das music group. You'll run that ship and whatever happens happens, you know. And then you were supposed to sound beat the label right well, it being it was like if be anyone and two, he could come with me or he could do what he had to do. So you know, he chose a different route. But they is, are we gonna get a state property? Three? I hope, So I don't know what it's gonna be. We all got on the phone, But what I wanted to do is take it to like China.

Yeah you know what I mean. I wanted to do it like if I'm gonna do that, I want. I didn't want it to be like it was. I wanted you to be like you said something to me that was super interesting, right, Me, You and Beans was all on the phone. It was all great, right, and then afterwards we never got on the phone again. And then I think Beans did an interview and says something and then I asked you, I called you and you said,

did you hear Being say that to me? And it was very interesting to me because he did not say that to you. So like, what do you think your issue is? I don't know what. I mean, I don't know what. I don't think there's a there's I have no issue. So, you know, again, a lot of a lot of times I hear about issues, but no one never has a conversation with me. So I never got what somebody's mad, but I always hear about it, you

know what I mean? That total My perspective is if I've done all this good ship, and let's say I made a mistake in this something, I just at least deserve a conversation about it, you know. But I you know, sometimes I don't think it would be a conversation that would be logical, you know, because you know what you know again, that's between that. So now I keep it real. And you made me go to Being's court date. You said, Yo, Slim, this nig need to have support. And I've drove all

the way to Philadelphia to come to Being school. You remember that. Yeah, I get it every day. Goddamn it, my nigga, Like this is real ship and and I came there and then you know, you know, let me just say you, let me just say, let me say you something in fashion. I never had to go to no trials. I ain't never had to tell niggers to do none of that. Ship. You understanding movies? Understand what I mean? Every day and a lot of to make sure jay Z and Beyonce came to that court date

one day. A lot of work. I don't remember what was when you guys did Death of a Dynasty? Was that fucking autobiographical? What the fun was going on there? I knew what was going on. I found it funny, and I made a movie about it. So you really like, that's really you knowing what's happening. I'm gonna make a movie. I never heard your favorite. I wasn't listening. You might have been drunk. Yeah that ship? What you said? You know this? I didn't know. I was already out. I

made a movie by it. So when more can I say? You understand what I'm saying? But you knew that I was gonna come into fruition? Did I use that word? Absolutely? Said that ship early? Why do you think I was doing? Man ship? I was like this thing ain't trying to like even that when they know what happening, and you knew what was happening a long time ago. I Ben was exiting, you saw me. I had already moved to fashion.

I'm like, just think it is bugging. I'm out, So let's let's get I made a movie, but we had myth bleak on the show. No, yeah, you called me. I didn't. I didn't call you. I tell you you're funny thing. You heard that. You can check that with. I don't be really, you know, it's hard for me to do. I can't say nothing, so I don't even try to say something tonight, motherfucker. So matter it's that Poppins poppington later. Oh, let me get that light a smne you have it? Can I borrow it? So you

said something I paid for? Listen, let me just tell you something. That's all. So let me just this D day makes no I take a shot day and then we're gonna get into this private I wouldn't know me. That's like being with a friend. You are brother, It's like Mike, you know what I'm saying, Like nor you the personal guy. He knows everybody. That's why this makes this sense we're going back to stay property three. I forgot what I was about to go. But it's okay.

But you remember that ye trying to challenge us drinking in your crib. Remember that, Joe, I ain't go friend. You have mac still do I just move around like the art they're stricten Umbeca. You had the biggest table I've seen in my life that it was like the Seven Suppers. So when you're using other people's money, you could do all that ship, and you're using other people's money, I want you to learn from this. Really, like all of that ship only happened because at the time I

didn't have to use that that table. Right now, when I could pay for a camera or I have to pay for some fucking staff or have to pay for some lawsuit or a lawyer, you understand what I'm When you using your money, it's like cracks and leaks of a wall and you ain't even got enough fingers. But that's Paul's part of the game. That's why I do it. In bulk. I'm let me get it all over with it one shot. You know what I'm saying. I I mean, I'm getting schools. I'm more like I'm monna like burned

off good men. I don't know what that is, but that's expensive department store in the world. There's only one of them. That's why we don't know what it is. Yeah, but if you would just stuck around, he wouldn't know. I think he shipped on me. Let's make yourself, he said. I don't know. Said, I don't tell smart ship. So you don't miss the music business a little bit. I miss. I don't miss anything but making music. And I make

music all the time. My son makes music. Right. The thing about it is right, if I have the ability to make people famous what I do, then why won't I make myself for my son famous? Why would I put my energy into other people that don't appreciate it. They're gonna walk away at the end of the day, because actually there's I'm renting it the minute. We're not friends no more. I can't get no money with that person. And I'm not a guy that you know holds his tongue.

You know. Pause, you know what you told me one day? You said, you know, you said to me, I called you, called you like just I just want to soak off game from you, he said. I said, what's the culture vulture? Dame, and you said, any person that's not gonna sunk with you when you can't do something for them. And listen, there was a person who asked me to hug him up with CBS. Oh you know this. First, I don't want to say pass it on to me. I passed

it on to you because I'm busy. And he was like was CBS, And I'm like, yo, listen, I don't funk with them. I don't talk to them. You know what I'm saying, not like in a bad way, but I passed them off to you. CBS said they didn't want to fuck with him. The minute he said they didn't want to, the nigga stopped sucking me. I said this, Das told me that you happy you don't be want to funk with niggas anyway. I love I like like I love women. You know what I'm saying. That's that's it,

because what's the worst that's really gonna happen? You know what I'm saying that you know, women really like they're gonna rock with you. If you're rock them with them, they're gonna be happy when you win. They're not you know doude. You have to test starts them. You know, we got nuts. You're supposed the one to be number one. You're supposed to go and eat the food you kill. That instinct is all the time. He supposed to be a savage at all time. So I'm not trying to

be around a bunch of savages all the time. I'm a savage. You understand to be around women, not other nigga. Don't miss the music, not a little bit. Let me ask you a question. What would I miss about it? You tell me I don't know? So why would you? Why would I go back? Why are you trying to get me? Because not just because you know? Why? Why don't we bring the music business with us someplace else? You know that's what I used to do. I stop saying like I had niggas making movies. I was taking

niggas like I was taking you to Europe. I wanted to educate. I was sophisticating you. That's why I started opening up our galleries because hip I was getting too stupid to me. I was like, Yo, we got And I'm not saying that that I'm not powerful, like I'm the whiz. I'm just saying if I if I can lead by example, then I'm gonna start doing things like taking care of my kid in public. I'm gonna start

doing things like art. You know, I'm gonna the best hip hop dad, Let's make some noise for it the best. I'm saying that over But we talked about it on the podcast. Do you think it's out of the realm of possibility to have a union in hip hop? Like Sage? I want to have a union, he wants to flag. We were talking about I think the union or like Sag, you could tell me what makes sense. Retarded ideas are great, especially when you're drunk in your high They sound good

all the time and drink chapter. But you have to think about the amount of work it's going to take to make that happen. But you know, actors got sad why we can't do what I said? Yeah, a lot of So who's gonna do with you? A lot of everybody to do it? Exactly all right, it's a lot of it. It's gonna do that. Who's paying for it? I'm thinking name Tito from l A. I'm paying for it.

But he's gonna listen. Lit'sten like like Big Big, he got murdered, right, I don't know who paid for it, like I said, but the hip hop coming paid if if like I said, Like one time me snooping, Um

Ray Kwon was trying to do something I forgot. He was calling it the hip hops trying to do something to now we was trying to do it like we was all at the folks a video shooting, were like, you know, we all we all have these conversations, but we're all really creative, you know, like infrastructure and execution and cash flow and convincing people and all of the

other ship. You know, I gotta take care of my kids, and I got to make sure that you know that I'm doing it in a way that my kids will be taken care of and their kids will be taken care of. And I'm doing it under I'm under a lot of scrutiny and ship like that. So everyone has their own set of problems. I'm human. We all human. We don't want to relax. We all chose this creative life, so we ain't gotta work. It's going to take some

very non creative people to execute that. But non creative people usually don't see the need to care about the creative it's like a gift and the curse. But who's going to execute it? Like for the actors I'm saying people, Man, exactly what I'm saying, Like, it's gonna take someone to step up and do it. Who's gonna do it? I'm paid for it. I'm not gonna do the actor that over your Christmas gifts for your kids right now? Just

say it's a good idea, just it's nicely not really sutable. Yeah, you know, you gotta pick and choose your wars, right, So it's like, alright, how much time is it gonna take to do? How much money? And what could I do in the time I'm doing You're gonna lose your life doing it. That's something that you can step onto it. It is moving. But to make that got's take a lot. It should happen. But who then got time to do all that? Who got enough? Some very rich fans would

have to fund that? So maybe you can, you know. But what I'm saying is day right, I'm telling it's great. It's like it's the execution that's that's that's not because we just we just gonna say no to that. That's great. I should be a baying there too. I want a football team. Yeah, now he's giving to me. Your dreams is bigger than the average thigger. Absolutely, just want to play football. You want to own it. What other ways should my dream to be? What other way should I

be thinkings? Want to play in the wing to add touch and you want to own the wing. Let's make a noise at the end of the day that thick up your brother, Bobby Dass. He's from left Rack. You know that, right, of course I don't let you got left right, come on left City, left to see my brother then swamping. You did the reality show. I respected that man ter no um with your brothers one of the Yeah, it felt like you became a better person. Then you feel like I better brother like that, but

you come on day, let's leave it like that. You're not a better brother, because of course anything that can makes you a better brother. Always, if I'm not a better brother today than I was yesterday and I'm sleeping, I'm always supposed to be involvement, you know what I mean. But it was, it was it was good, it was logical. It definitely helped me because I needed it therapy because at the time I couldn't see my children. So I was like, damn. I So the thing was I want,

I want. I had a lot to talk about. I was like, yo, I want to talk about this ship with my kids because that ship is fucking hurt. You know, That's what I want to talk about. But they want. They never really showed a lot, you know, they show every they didn't show what I was upset about. It was just one sided. I didn't get the day. But we did a lot of therapy, so they edited in a certain way. But you gotta remember it, be like I don't want the therapy session. They could have gave

you a whole season. It was that long you would be in therapy. Alright, coin, I see you line from you? I want. I want to brought you. I brought yourself your back. No, I want to own the see A line. Did that what you're talking about? Let me buy from you. Let me get that CEO line. You want the whole line? Yeah, I want the whole line, Let me get it. I don't even know what's about all right now. I don't know how we're talking. But are you're drinking? Man? I

don't know. I'm just trying to be mobile with you for second. And for the press you're playing with You're doing the monopoly, right, if you want to do that, why don't you say, Look, we're doing a partnership for our podcast, which is true. Right, and we start to talk about you know what this situation is. What's the situation? Think is a great business man. You see he did not let me get away with nothing. Let's make for I'm a businessman. You imagine you're give him our numbers

and he goes to back for us with the numbers. Listen, let me tell you something. You mean the reason why I keep asking if you miss music, because you know why I listened to music. Let me just tell you something. I've never seen a CEO for you artists the way you were at and that's Tim wrapping for myseln books. That is hands Let me just tell you appreciate that.

That is hands down the most. Like when I was young, like when you did that me in with me and you got me a big number that I needed at the time, Why would you trust them any anything else? Think was saying, Oh, but I didn't know because you know at time was yelling like you was insulting them. But when I was like I realized everything you said was writing exact and everything you've been saying. I've been

writing exactly as I got. What you're saying is if I could, and there's nobody like you in the music. We need you back. That was back then, but then we need you back. He can get your light of back that you gave me and she took it back. We need you back in music. You listen to me, look at it from my pis, but you're not listening to me. I need you like four times can listen because you know you know what. I don't understand what

you're saying. Alice said, we're gonna rhetorical. I guess we're gonna set up a management company and oh and we're gonna set up some ship. How about we need you back in the mound. Why I'll advise you. I like that advisor advise your man, salt all day, cal y'all tell you what. Let's let's make up a word. Advise your man by make up a word and not saying I'm gonna advisor man this straight whatever. I just I don't do business now drink business meaning Randy accommist the

Leeds Tito advisor man just skype Well Skype Skype. Yeah, damn you mad Rich like that. You don't even want to me. You couldn't you want me to come to a meeting with RANDYAKA, Yes, and I want you to entertainment like for what but y'all at the same time, the same side. Okay, and now this time, why don't you let me tell you? Let me tell you do this? Say okay, I have no problem with you're doing the

room with those people. If we're talking about something that's a little more evolved, Like I keep telling you, I don't want to do something that I've done before, So why would I want to do this right now? Forty five years trains a lot of times. What I'm saying is logically speaking, the music that you're talking about. The demographic is fifteen. It's fifteen, man, it's it's fifteen to twenty five. I'm forty five. It's not see that's how far gone away. But you know now, so now the

millennials it's sixteen four. I'm still twenty years older than the oldest demographic back. So why would I want to go and be fucking around with people that aren't even gonna understand what I'm saying? And that age demographic didn't understand me when they were my age. But you know why you don't go to nursery school because you gotta let You gotta let a rock star be a rock star. Twenty five year old got to be able to be a twenty five year old, Like, I don't even don't understand.

Right when we was doing this with all this money, we was in our twenties. What the funk how they was expecting us that. The thing that was dope about it is that we didn't do stuff that nobody we're going to take your son, We just he could be a part of if he wants to come on. You're asking what I teach him. If you don't enjoy it, don't do it. If it feels like work, do not do it. It makes no sense not to monetize something you love because you become the best at it because

you enjoy it. So I do nothing unless it's if it's not one hundred fun on my terms, which now I've done enough where I can do that, I'm not doing it. Just learn that we're monetized mans, like watch everything money, make money off the ship, monetize me my bad. Yeah, they said that's why it's not on soundclouds. They can't monetize it. Yeah, they say old TVs. Yeah yeah, we're also going to do a bear together. Right then we've

gotta do a Bear Rose Bear. All right, we on we just said that we're doing a bid again, Bear Rose a bear big up forty. He got his bear head. But like, I don't drink beer and I was drinking the ship out drink yo. So what's next for you all? What's next for the business? Yea, we're going We're going televised. But when I saying the business ain't done yet, if business ain't done yet, like we're going uh body somewhere like around and when maybe Dave is good No, I

mean the business ain't done yet. I mean in the house. Don't take it to text. I'm like, so we're going televised and then logical, yeah, bigger ditty man, let's game dry, but we ain't going nowhere else? Fuck it? So yeah, I guess you just blew it up. Thank you. I mean you made it obvious. I did. It's the biggest bottle on the table. I could have been a boy, the biggest bottle on the table. Now we actually like the product I got you. That's why it's not And

we're like your product to your product. You're the most consistent bottles on the table. Let's keep it on. Let keep saying, keep ConTroll the applause. I would be like applause because let's look out. I just I even asked him than you were everywhere else, you know, I said, Dame, I could never ask no. I was like, honestly, I wouldn't expect nothing less from you. That's why you're saying,

I'm gonna stand up nigga. Yeah always, I always. You want to make noise for me being a stand up that if you want to do good, Damn you you're my nigga, Dame. Let me tell you something, man, it's not a day to go by where I don't miss you in music when I do music, because I don't do music. I'm sying. Listen anymore. You're smart stupid guy, right, you said self acclaimed, self acclaimed, So there's a little stupid. And when there's smart stuff, yeah, there's a fact. So

it's smart about the music. But there's something dumb about what you're saying. Can I tell you what this you're saying? Don't miss you in the music. I don't know. Man, Listen, I want to miss you in music. Wouldn't you rather make wouldn't you rather talk to more people, make more money and have a better quality of living? Yeah, I'm doing that, but I still miss music. It's my first lesson to me. So you shan't do it on some function. Yeah, black don't want to do that. That's my talking about.

That's what black rock was. I passed the Black Keys, super and and most Deaf and Jim Jones and all of them for fun. So that's what I want to do much way when you're talking about and also why you keep saying I'm not the music business and what universities with me? That's why. Okay, but I feel music business is selfish. It's just been a different business, like I just turned into vinyl. But this is just my plan. Major. I'm gonna go to the major. I'm gonna get side.

I'm gonna make Ali with them love Ali. As soon as they love I'll leave too much. I'll leave them black this time, and then they're gonna code to me and then they go black boom black. This is this is my advisor, So you're gonna walk in. It's gonna be smoke, but I gotta walk in though I want purple smoke, but we want to skypeing. Man, Just do you too much of a ball my basi? Let me just tell you what it's gonna become. Purple smoke is gonna come in the only in my mind you have

a basketball shots. You're gonna dug the ball. It's not gonna be a court, but you're gonna boom. I would I was now talking from me, I would you do that? This makes you different? Thing that I have some fun. I just wanted me to because just get scared, like because you're scared white people? Do you was you? We wed that, but you scared white people a little bit the videos you made? Do you want miss I don't know why you passed it to me. The way you

passed it looked a little crazy day. Thank you. Welcome to play It, a new podcast network featuring radio and TV personalities talking business, sports, tech, entertainment, and more. Play it at play dot It. We're back to drink Champs Radio with Rapper and R and d j FN. We missed you in the music business. Day you get You're not in the music business. You're not medio business. Now, No, I'm in the media business. So you wanted me to be in the music because I want to suck people up.

What I'm saying when I said I did the motor oil for fun motor oil, let's make some noise for mortal oil. Got damn everybody, everybody. When you get oil and a raps. Now he's making it. You make it yourself. Now we don't get the ingredients. That's a lot of money for a while. And then books used to throw parties in the in the factory. You got cookies too,

right cooking, and you got chips chips. He got a video game coming out, he got a second season of the television show Growing Up hip Hop, and he got a single. He started, he started um producing, but now he's editing and directing and he's doing everything. One of my favorite TV moments just passed with Jermaine dupri said, I felt sorry for you. What was that about day you you rope to them? Bob would like you to keep roasting right here. Um, he said he felt sorry.

He didn't he didn't had your phone number or something. I'm asking I don't know, because he did want radar. Let me ask you so, Um, I gotta why would someone that's never called me ever and asked me or checked up on me ever the first time they do it? Why would they do that on television? I'm asking you a question. Why would they do that with you to go home? I don't know. That's what you're saying. He was making television. You're saying. I just asked you a question.

That's what you're saying. Okay, I think he's making television because he said what can I borrow? That I didn't like is when he said he felt sorry for you. I didn't like. Who said that? Jamane Debree? I found it amusing, right, I didn't like because like, if you know Dame, you know Dame's great forever. He gonna get money. Like I said, I found it a music And then you said to him, you said, well why you called me? Yeah, don't tell me you feel sorry for me leaving lunch

back box with money in it. I don't say. I was saying, we're talking about money, no money, or if you think I'm not higling me some week you think I'm sucked up and you want to bring it to my attention to bring some money with it? Right? What's what's the purpose of telling me so you feel better, Like, let's make some noise for dame dads never being this is my nigga. I'm always fucked up. I spend it all every day. I bet the bank until I get what I want. I'm gonna keep betting the bank until

I get a football team. So I'm gonna stay bron money in the street. I heard you say that what call that? Bro? Can call it, bro, bring it down, but don't I needed to hit that football. You're saying, I can't get it. I can't get it with twenty five million or sixty MILLI I need like a billion. Every time you get cash, you actually put it back on the back. You want to see me not But I just want the people TOUTI tell the story because before but everybody knows that be I'm not going no

money until I get what I want them to. Always put it in the street because no one's gonna give it to me, so I gotta take it. But you need some bread that you gotta have some money on the street to take it. And you know what, sometimes it's what is what it is man, until you re up man. But think about it in the street, right you get an eighth, you're gonna flipped out every dollar you got to go get a quarter. Maybe just keep a little bit because you know you're gonna get that

cash flow anyway. And then if you're in the street, you got money to touch. But as soon as you come back, then you're gonna kee flipping it until you get that bird. Everybody want to get to a bird. But you're gonna keep flipping it all. You're gonna keep whatever is in your pocket, whatever it's gonna hold you down for a couple of days or till you could get it, Like in ten minutes after you copy bottle up in front of the street, you got cash, but

you're always flipping everything. I don't know. I don't know how to do it no other way. I just keep flipping. So if I'm when I make money from Rockefeller, go to Rockway. Where they make money from Rockway went to Rachel Roy. When I make money from Rachel Roy, it goes to Dame Dash Studios and making my movies and building my platforms. Like I got Dame Dash Studios, and I got a streaming service. Every I got what everybody else got, but just mine got a TV network. I

launched the first on the internet. But it's seven Dame Dash and everything I'm talking about, I'm showing it. You know what I'm saying, Like, I ain't gonna just talking about it. I taped it everything you said, even down when you brought back to the Memphis Weak conversation that's on tape. You talk about that. That just you know I weak with my brother, no matter what the conversation with its good day here, that it's good day here. You said, make noise. You know you know me better

than that. I know that, I know it. But what I'm really mad at the rum. Listen, listen, don't do that. No, I won't don't ru I won't don't do that. I know better than the rum. I speak to you all the time about But the rum was like, like you're running around better, and I knew you've never been better. I know you never you you always do your thing. So I just want the people to know that because

that's my job. I'm not I'm not gonna ever say I'm better, but you if you discuss something or people like you gotta remember something disappointed you think, Just listen. Every day in my life, if I'm in a certain area of people. I'm getting questions asked about it every day, so it's always gonna be talked about. So like right now you ask me questions about it, and are you my nigga, I'm not gonna not answer it, but it's gonna look like I'm talking about it like at a

breakfast club had light skinned. That's why I don't want to talk about it. Yeah, envy was that light skin and ship or like you put every I didn't consider that beef, But like what what? What was like? Because I just im saying what I felt. I was being poetic, I was being an artist and Envy what about it? Is that a little bit? A little bit? I think I'm thinking about another dude asked me about a check, Envy. That's I ain't making music no more, so I think

you can't do it to me. That's my that's my love. Why would I be thinking about him the music business? That was a joke and be rhyme to your mom's basement. Forgive me, Angie my tenus, forgive me as well. I don't know why. And she she's not taking my goal. It was with the Cisco with the vat episode. She was your fault. But Angie, I'm so sa ampologize people. You can't be mad with I know, but that wasn't Somebody asked me about her and I didn't know that.

She didn't funk with him. You didn't know nothing, joint. I apologize texting you and calling you. Please call me back. I apologize. Well, we can't have Russia the want come on the show. No, she wanted to, and she if you, I'm sorry. She's like Angie sister, So you know, if like she's really really that offended, because she's not like from it was a personal It's not that I'm saying from my interaction with Angy. She's always been like, you know,

pretty stand up. I can't see her reacting unless she's really upset. So she's really that upset person that came up. I have to I'm sorry, and I swear to God I would violate you or put your in the position. But let me ask you, dame, do you you don't miss the music industry? You don't miss the music millions? Don't miss do you miss do you miss the original crew? Like how you had it in the beginning? Do you miss those days? How? How? Because I like, listen my nigga.

I'm gonna keep you honest. I can neally used to bring me on to so I've seen sinning. You know, I always see everything. But yeah, I get my brother too. Do you miss do you miss this man? When it was like I don't, I don't want to say no. Money's your question? Do you miss summer camp? I've never been a summer camp. But where did you relax and get to your nice place? Like when you were younger? Um, I went to d F Y. Did you do you miss the F one? No, that's jail. Where did you

have fun at when you were a kid? Was investing Section two? That's fucked up? Yeah, I mean I was left. He did a lot. Yeah, But do I miss that? Yeah? As a kid. Yeah. No. The way you feel about that, it's so much a way I feel about the music business. But I'm talking about that with y'all. Was all friends and I'm not you know, listen, listen like big Face Gary, listen to me. I understand me. I'm forty five years old.

This is not entourage. You understand what I'm saying. So in this very moment, raising my daughter and raising my son and having puppies and having a girlfriend. Like the thing about the music business and the music business, it's a lifestyle. You can't raise your kids and being the music business not properly, and you can't really, I don't want to just justify it like I'm sending money and all that. Like I really enjoyed the time I spend with Like, like you said, you see what it is

with me, So I know what it is. You know, I had books. He grew up in the music business. It became a lifestyle for he was with me everywhere, a single dad at eight. He lived with me since he was eight years old. To praise you more for that, nobody told you think about it, everybody, because I ain't gonna to me like the fact that I was able to take everything I got from the music business and now provide a good life for my children. It's like a drug dealer dog. Once they get the big lick,

they out, they're not trying to go back. I didn't. I wasn't doing that because I loved it. I loved it. We were friends, and but I don't. I want to be around my girl all day, every day. Seven. Yeah, you know that's funny, righty, right, right, And I want to be with my kids. I love her because you know why. I could tell you love I know, and if you love, I love you. And you know what, Like I knew you for almost, uh like eighteen seventeen years, and I could tell you happy with my brother, Yeah,

I could tell you. If I was happy, I'll be trying. If I wasn't happy, I'd be trying to get into music business. That's what I'm saying. I'm just to make him unhappy a little bit. What I'm saying, like like I've been able to architect my life where I could work by a pool or move around as I choose. I could work because it's my money, so that means like a move when I feel like it. And I could pick my kids up any time I want and any time I'm allowed to. Like, I gotta also fight

ship that people don't usually have to fight for. I got to fight to raise every one of my kids. I got to go to court. It's crazy easy, right, but I'm not gonna do that. You understands that we don't have to. But my point is what you want to talk about. But just like how no one really talks about publicly that I'm a single dad and have

been this whole time of the best dads. But publicly, why would why would the people that are trying to make you believe something that's not showcase that to showcase that I'm supposed to be. I'm supposed to be such a bad guy. Why they don't never show the good stuff? Ever? Remember when I turned the camera and the girl and I was like, why, Yeah, I just keep talking about the same ship for the last ten years his eyes. I don't care. I'm just curious to know why, Like,

why just keep talking about the same bill? Yeus? To me, it's a reason, you know what I'm saying, Or why you don't showcase my art galleries? Why you don't showcase that? I open them up around the world at gallery and the Lower east Side Alcohol you know Charlotte, I mean rather Charleston and Charlotte as well, Like that's just a good thing. It's not the one time I was in the newspaper for art. They try to make it like

I sold kiddy are because I did. Um. I let them do some kids like a child art kind of gallery like a and that not. The extrabition was a charity. They had done a charity in my in my gallery and then what the paper, But they were like, damon selling Kiddy, are like it's crazy why they make things that are they trying to make everything bad? Everything good look bad? And it's like why you know what I'm saying, Like like they never talked about the fact that I

owned Rachel Roy that's a fashion company. So just because it's not music, I don't have a company that does that's doing fifty million for the last ten years straight. I'm funked up. Not about the investment. I was smart. I did it where I have and now I'm you know, and that's an around. They always put it in there and pause. But when I win, the only time they ever announced that we wanted when it was with Kanye with low Siders, they made a little light announcement, but

they never make it. But when I get sued for the stupidest ship, it's like everywhere, all right, your your son? That around no more. So then we got to ask you this question that we ask every artist. Oh man, this is what we lose Johnson, And when we lose ads, we asked name. I'm not answering it, man, stop with the girls. He he I'm not talking about my personal business, like, let's make a guy. We would lose all endorsement. Were we know we losing. I'm not even worrying about we

were over here. I don't think I think you're pushing the bar. Yeah, because you know why, nobody else can ask you that. Everybody else do you want to know? Dog, it's too many niggers in the room to be talking about answering on It's like that's like watching the porn when we never do that. That's why you want to be in the music because because because we do a milliad, they got there and they they love this. It is the fans we took a shot at you're taking this

shot sucking day. We're talking about take a shot together. Come on, you want to dust but not drink dusk with you, I'm gonna do it because you know why. I'm gonna support anything Dame Dash does. And if you want to sell it doesn't matter. This is the type of that guy I am with you. If you sell pink to you just want to I'm wanna support business. I ain't even the same. Since you laugh, I know you need to come with us. Do you know what you're doing the art gallery? I already did that though,

I don't even stand you. Are we doing all? Listen to me, looks like graffiti. I didn't. I don't do it as I had our galleries. Now my way right now is I have a television network. I'm making. Let's brow that up. Where can they people see the television network out? Dash studios dot com? Dash Studios dot com. And you've got your own Netflix? Did you have a hood Flix or something like that? All right, listen, I'll

never drink whiskey in my life. This is my first time, my nigger, I'm gonna do it with you, and I feel like I'm gonna through up right now, like I don't like that would be bad for Let me get a let me get a glass. Maybe that's what we shouldn't be. You want to do a shot? Might even drinking slow? Yes, you should sip that. He should sip her. Mr Lea, you got a big butt is going down? Bigger ass broke the fall. We're gonna do a shot. I'm sorry, I'm are you ready? We're doing? Ready? Shots? Ready?

You got a shot? Take the picture? I think the picture? Come on your shot ready? Damn you gotta drink your own ship on camera. I know you gotta drink your own ship on camera. Fifty you made drink his own shot on camera as well, No problem with you should just give me a second. Alright? Cool? You know like we're about to have a race. You don't mean we gotta go when you say so that nigga so much of a more weekend. Stop being the balls. You can't stop me in the ball, never stopping, he felt. He

felt like I was pushing on. I'm trying to take my mind right, I might urricane. That shows the friendship. Now that's my nigga, My nigga, this is my niggas, This is my Remember when you said, yeah, I ain't gonna fund. You told me to come to the photo shoot one day and you had the model big the black bottle bit. I was like, damn, I hope you're not cool. I didn't mean that, and you brought my ria carry to the hood lab. You're listen. I was staying mad. I've had a lot of rent, but I

didn't know how to be flying with it. See you had a apartment downtown. I ain't in front of one of the flies lost. I haven't seen, but I ain't. I don't want to take your swag. I've seen your ship, No, because I want to do my own ship, because I'm a boss too in my mind for sure. Then I rented a studio and I invited you, and you said I'm gonna bring MC through and I was like, alright, cool, tell her Nigga's all up, because I ain't know what the fun you meant. This thinker came through my Ria

Cary and this is the craziest ship in the world. Right, Maria carry comes upstairs. Nigga Dame immediately flips on her security. He's like, yo, she's with Nori. She's okay, get the funk out of here. And the guy goes. He goes, you're nor is it cool? And I'm looking I'm mad if because I don't want to. I don't want to offend him. I don't want to finish security. I'm like, I'm ride carrying my studio. We've only been open two days. I'm like, yo, I don't want to. He said, if

you told me he's good, he's good. I said, yeah, he's good, And then the security walked out, and then Mariah kept walking around, right, and this is the funniest thing in the world. Maria kept walking around. I told my niggas stop following her, and she said, no, it's okay. That's the only time they're gonna see me. Yo. She was like, yo, lay my nigga. She said, let the niggas follow me my week. Did I say sposed? Didn't say that? Maria stunted games on five thousand. I mean

you can't. She's only we love you. Come on, drink champ. She talks, got talked. She good money, she she's good money. We're gonna do the shot, honestly, She'll probably Yeah, where your shot at? Right? What did you boy? Look at that? That's gonna shot to Dusko? Thank you? Make sure I'm sure you can? You possible? Blah blah blah blah. That's why they never winded, never rewind. This is why we were so little. Come on, mama, did you no better that?

Look at you? Look at you. It's together together. Let's go champion, Let's go champs. Fantastic sho give me a shock. You want to use my please? I only eat my white pussy, that's it. I only random pussy. I don't do that. So I am married and I'll stay married if and God bless you goddamnit. So when we just my partner d j F. Well my partner now too. That's right, that's right, that we're doing the Dame Dash

podcast where your name, the CEO. Whatever, you want some kind about the golden line from you, let me just give it to me, see you all. I just feel like it deserves me. I feel like though, no, no, I felt like you're worried enough, so I felt like I buy it from you. We're going to over camera question and then me get that you think you could get drunk off my liquing and robbing me, not robbing your God damn days, why can't I can't ceo because right now, like no, but I feel like your your corse.

How about we do this okay? Um, yeah, and then let me buy it from you, not buy it, let me, let me, let me take it from you. You know what, Let me grow up. I've never seen you so closed in my life. Never let me see what you're doing it. I'm wearing your hat. No, you're gonna already sucked up. Well, you gotta listen. I'm not saying that. I'm saying take the company and do something with it, all right, that I want to see your quest listening. But if you

ain't doing nothing with it, then I'm back. Give me. Give me a time period. We're gonna do it like a six months. Okay, you just give me to get back, give me a year. Why don't you just tell me, because I'm not gonna tell me. Tell you what? How long do you want? I want six months to a year. I'm gonna take the cold and I'm gonna bring it back to hall of I'm gonna bring it back stress and listen to what you gotta do. Yeah, because because you know why, we're gonna take it and say Hood CEO,

just Hood, CEO, Street CEO, CEO, Jim CEOs. It's a big it's a pickup picture. Let me take this vision and listen. Let me make it more drunk CEO make for me. You can tell you something you want. CEOs are always drunk. We did not know that thing we make cliquer shout out to drinking. See what you're doing it? You got a year? Right, So big Biggses came home. You've been on for a year, a year and it's your first time seeing each other. When he came there, Lay,

how was that? How is that? It's good. It's good to see that. It's good to see him. Family always, it's just my brother always, and um, you're you're planning to do anything together or no, there's no plans in the works. He's doing this thing, you know, you know, like people like to do things on their own because they have different points of views in different timing. You know. I think what Big is doing is good, and I'm happy that he's happy. But that's just not I done it.

I don't want to that, you know what I mean? And maybe I don't know if you're inspired, like I move as I'm inspired, but like if you noticed, like I don't really like whiskey is hitting me funked up right now? It's good, it's doing all types of ships, smooth kind of where you know, you know, I'm David, but good continue because you know what you want to continue.

I've got Biggs. Oh yeah, yeah, so if you if you notice, like this has nothing to do with anything in my past, brand new fresh, yeah, so like when something's in my rear view, was just really in my rear view, not to say our relationship, but the business that we do. Unless he wants to do what I'm doing, he gotta do what he gotta do, you know what I'm saying. So fourth Novem was doing great, and that's good. It's a great thing. That's a good thing. And you know,

I'm I'm really happy for him. And I wouldn't. You know, Big as a genius, so you know, I wouldn't think I've always thought that if he was this person he years today. Back then, you know what I mean? It was it was ill. Big was always a little bit you know, it's a different Biggs. But this is the Biggs that we've all been waiting for. Okay, this is what I want to do before we leave. I'm a dog. I've never said we've done no. No, I think he's doing. Oh I'm in, but I want to take a book.

Ego shot me. What do you mean? Botho shot? It was a little bit the Mexican because he understands what in the Mexican borders. Only the Mexicans. Because I ain't gonna do that. I ain't gonna do that to you, you dame, don't do it. You know. You challenge me in London and what happened. We ran out of Armordale. That's what he's saying right now. Nobody want. I can't say y'all want. I can't say I got want because

we just ran out of Armordale. And then you remember this is I don't notice how these niggas is rich back in the days, right, they probably rich now. But listen, we had a whole hotel, right, So I call I call the ship in London. I'm like, yo, I need more wine and chicken. The guy flips it goes you you gotta drink all the water and chicken in the whole town. And I'm like, damn, because I'm like yo, Dave said, listen, everything is taken care of. You ain't

never heard of record label? Tell you that in your life. I wasn't a record label. Sorry. I had a clothing line and in the liquor the ben offensive. It's offensive that you don't understand it. Like I want you to understand it. You want to take a fensive, but I'm like, yo, I want you to I want you to know. That's what the restaurant needs to understand. The reason why Rocket Feller was Rocket Feller because it wasn't just a music. It was a lifestyle and we were monetizing every single

part of it. From the liquor to the clothing. I looked at us like, you know what LVA mast but LA was like Louis Vuitton. But they also owned my weare their own Hennessey, They're on Jivanshi, they do their own Um Donna Karen. They're own a lot of ship right. So I wanted to be LVA makes. I wanted to own a lot of companies, but I wanted to be high end but still authentic. And I'm doing all of those things on my own now, with my own money. And it took me to really be like, yo, I

know what I want to do. I want to have a television network. I want to have a streaming service. You remember, that's the reason why I had the art Gallergy, just so I could look at look at them, create things and tape it so like I have content because I knew in the future content was king. And what have I been doing the whole time? Content? I'm always doing that, that's my ship. I said, content is king? But what am I telling you back? I just said that I'm a time traveler. I go to the future

and then I come back. And then I handed out this wan No slogan. How the fun are you just saying my slogan and we didn't even talk about that. Kid, I've been telling you that he did. Yeah, I got it from me again. Were you in the movies? Did I still? Should I put you in movies so you could tell me I'll stow your ship. Nobody stands up. But I'm like, when I do something to me, every time I do something is for the world to be influenced.

I'm not offended by that. I care for I met you and you said in two seconds, he was like, I'll point you in the movie all write content the movie Country was crazy. Everybody does. And you said, am I really crazy? And You're like, yo, I'm pointing you in the movie. I bet he's like tomorrow. I was like, what the fund? And then I did Paper Soldiers? Who's starting that? I took him on from stage two, didn't I let's explain that story. We need to hear that. Okay,

what happened? You're seeing Kevin Hart on stage? Yeah, me, Rachel and Jay Black, a man from the Best Out. You know, I was doing a movie, so I was going to look for comedians and I seen him. He was funny because he was like white people with black people. He knew how to tease himself. I went backstage. He said some funny ship to Jay Black. That's the gangster j Black is again. He's my he's my brother, you know, you know what I mean. But I'm said, he's my brother. Alright, cool,

but that's it. But anyway, definitely but and uh, you know, so we went backstage and put him in the movie the next day. The next day something like that. So Paper Soldiers, Paper Soldiers, I directed. You did the same ship with me. Michael Rappaport was in there. I was drinking with you one night and he was like, he was like, you you've never acted before. I was like, what does that mean acted? He was like, tomorrow, come come to Jersey and I came and you made me

the bar brother the next day. Yeah, he killed that ship too. Let's make some noise for you. Shall listen. Also, let me also making flash. I was mad, fat jointstanding, you got politics, come on, let's go. Let's also making noise on you because a lot of people don't know. She came to audition for alf and paid it for I didn't do good and I was fat. I was fat at the time. It's nowhere because it played it was NAS came out for that too, NAS came out

for Albol. Then what happened that day? No way, But I don't know the NAS park hold on. NAS came to audition, yeah for opol World. Yeah not to day I was there. I don't know what did was break this down? And this is why y'all beefing. You know I'm talking about you know, like you to take over? I don't know that. She wasn't real to me, man, it was fucking music. You think I really take that ship serious? I'm sorry beefing over music? I feel like I was it likery kind of like it's like, what

kind of do you think I am? So na honestly the yeather I'll get mad over record? So why didn't get man over records? The records? So why didn not? Because can got it? Why else? Let me ask your let's just do logic. Let's do you from Queens so you're gonna but you're from Queens? With the logic? Uh? The character he played was not from Queen's. He was from Harlem, So why would I have a dude from Queen's playing the guy from Halland that doesn't make logical sense?

And came to the hell of the job he did. He did. We're gonna honestly, it would have made sense if I would have brought like a queen's character and NAS would have played that role. So listening, dope. I called you one day and I said, let's through the queen's side of the story. Is that something you're interested in? What let's do it. I always talked to be me about doing their story, and I know his story that Beamy has a good story, and ever they got the

old thing. Yeah, but you know, everyone has a perspective on a lot of the same stuff. Like it's like one thing happened and it affected a lot of different people in a lot of different ways. Like I could have been paying the full from my perspective. I just chose to do it from a Z S. But I had. He had a quarrel with you after that. I think he's what are you talking about, listen? He quarrel isn't when someone says something on the show or something that's

not a qual, you know, there's no action. So there wasn't a qual. I don't know of any right. I think he said, like, I don't want you to tell me what he said, that's not the conversation we usually have exactly exactly because we're not Chaddy Patty's exactly. You know, Dave Dash, we really love you, my brother. I know that you're a real dude partner you always Yeah, we were naming the name dask podcast. Does any money want to take you? We get money? Look close out there,

I just stop that. We got shots. And you know, you know for years you paid me in clothes for years, for years to gave me clothes. I ain't giving fun. You was a great guy. You gave me the best opportunity ship that we talked about offline on the business. Are gonna ask for the specific did that come true? She was waiting on you, was like it ain't. You know it happened, but it ain't, you know, I gotta put that. You know what I mean? When you is it what you expected? You know why I funk with

you for real? So like if it was if she was a nigger I didn't fun with I'll be like, yeah, but I don't know because I got so much ship going on check it out. But but but other opportunities and presenting themselves behind it right, yes, but no, what listening for you, but for you, we want you to be with us. I want you to be question. I always said, let's do some business again, whatever it is, that's matter. When it was you said a beer, I shouldn't just do a beer the movie company, I said, yol,

let's do the movie company for the podcast. Finally you want to do something. Yes, I'm here. We want to support that. I want to support anything you're doing to and then, but people know I want to I want to address to the people. I'm also I'm also sober. Yeah, for the people that to it. I did a whole interview with my brother God and not once did I bring up Jay. Well, you keep saying that you just once, you just brought it up. I didn't a second time.

How you bringing up it by saying you didn't bring it? But I wanted people want to understand. You could do a whole fucking apiate. You ain't got you ain't got to speak about that man. Thank you know what I'm saying because I respect you and I respect your legacy, and you know what, you personally helped me. Sorry you're looking at help take it or not you have to drink it? Sorry, well back, ye should accept it man, that ship with ice would be better? Man? What's going

on with my man? I thought he was doing this? You got it's like big pit what we used to do this. I don't know why I tell you something about your dusk. The shoot out of you. It don't hit you immediately, that's what. That's what. That's what. It didn't hit you. A media we started doing no, this is this is the problem. That's the other shot that hit me. Now it's gonna come in like two seconds. And then I was just start another one. What do gyp? Ship? I can't take a shot just you know my son

is that's more ship. Yeah, he's good, he's good. That's more. That's twin. It's the broken nigger. We know. I'm the broken were like the richest that you're happy said, I'm gonna broken riches nig on earth. I always go with everything you just went nor because I don't want to have more again. Damn, it's enough for me. I got to do another interview. I quit, you quit. I'm with it man quick quiting man and the challenge he's said, No, I never said I was a drink chap didn't CBS

told NA take a shot. Dame real talk. That should be drinking ice. That sh boy he started, he did started, but while y'all gotta keep this. Y'all been doing this for a while. I said, we did this in London down lazy him and Biggs, and we just kept growing at it. It's like, let's give me. He's in, he's I don't give a fun but I can't do it. I'll tell you get that cup. I'm gonna blow a home because I just feel good about life. What is it? Feel good about life? I'm glad that you're happy. I'm

glad you have a beautiful wife. I'm glad you have dogs. Whiskey. Keep it so bad. Let's go see what happened. Got a beautiful with me? Yeah? You swiss to my drink? I'm good. Can you want you to show show pups on love. He's like he's like halfway from hall him right, He's like Matt Vernon. Now he's like half away. Listen to what I'm saying. Is he a hallo nigger? But I've seen you go to the office? Is office? What

did you say? He went to boss holders? It sounds like that because at first you thought he was you because you eat money making Mitch, are you telling him on point? I'm on and I got to see you all hat on and you got getting it back. One year when coming to me, ask you a question when you saw Pup, did you ask him that? No, I'm about to ask him that right now, but I'm asking you because you're here passing my nigger. But did you

feel like he was buying you with the money? May made an agreement that we don't do that, so we're not gonna do that, but respect. That's why whatever was said in that meeting was yo, man, you don't play like that with each other. I don't know, but whatever it was, it was check. It wasn't no, it was a conversation amongst men. You know, men, men should be able to talk to each other. Like if I just made you uncomfortable, you make something, just like you just

did with Andie Martinez. But you know, sometimes people can be unintentionally. You know. All I'm saying is you always give a man the conversation and real men could sit down and have a trust. Why I know, to give Puff his props because whatever he felt, it was always a conversation, And whatever I felt was always a conversation.

And honestly, we've we've always respected that. So on that respect the question as a hallom nigger, he's always to me when we've had interaction, except for a couple of things, we've always given each other the respect of what we agree to. You understand what I'm saying. That that's respect. So we's that's my nigger's bigger pup daddy, that's bigger dame. Right, here's the reverse question. Everybody in the world thinks like you're somewhere in the world fucked up, broke. That's what

they think, right, they think you better? But was was? What was? You're the exact opposite. And I know that because I speak to you. I know that person I think was Sometimes people get or misunderstand. It's like if I tell you something, it could it's really your subject on how you perceive it. Like you can even get mad at it, or you can laugh at it. You understand what I'm saying. Like just because I might say something, I don't mean I'm mad at it. You understand what

I mean. It's just it's just said like I've been too too much therapy to be mad at anything, and I'm enjoying my life and I know what I love. You know what I'm saying. So like if something comes up and it gets discussed, it might just it is what it is. It doesn't mean better, you know what I mean? Like, I'm not better? How could I be better about anything that's happened with Rockefeller? Look how rich we got and how much money in the lifestyle, and

you know we're legends behind it. So you know, well, how could you really be a man to be bitter about winning? Like you know, you gotta wait, Like everyone's not gonna do everything right, and everyone's winning isn't the same win. You understand what I'm saying. I'm a guy that believes in friendship, and I believe in integrity, and I believe in honor. And that's it. You know what I'm saying. And you see that. And you also know I'm a guy that likes to laugh, that likes to

drink and you break on the minute. You know, I'm mind with my knuckles, you know what I'm saying, Like, just not to be a tough guy. Really, I'm all right, I'll have interaction when I was younger, I'm forty five. I'm not doing that no more. I put I'm not in music. I don't have to fight no more. Would you have a shot, but would you directly at me? But would you would you have changed anything if you could from those things? Rollers one thing before we go,

I want him if you want to Rockefeller? Is there anything that you were red from that time periods? Like if you played any game, if you could come back, of course you would have justin do things. So it's perfect, so you don't waste time. But at the end of the day, it was Rockefeller, right, But I mean, if you could talk to it with Rockefeller, there's nothing, no more to be said like we did. Like how could

you be mad we made Rockefeller? It's jay Z, it's Kanye's kid, like what it's Beanie like all the other ship. Then to be worried about is petty if the big picture is we was Rockefeller. So just because we don't see things the same, they don't take away from the fact that from the what we was, whether it could have still been or whatever in that moment, nobody never did that before. So how did you be mad at it? You don't mean to take spend time being better? No,

I don't like what jay Z. We laughed. I got drunk with him, niggas this ship. Whatever I felt, it didn't matter. We did Rockefeller. That's the respect we have for one another. We don't have no time to be talking about petty ship. You know what's the future? That was twenty years ago? You know what I mean? Like, you can't be doing that ship for twenty years to be mad about something in the moment. You could feel a certain way, but you gotta evolve. But nobody's man,

How do you mean we made Rockefeller? I walk around. I'm not a regular nigger just because of Rockefeller, even though I did other things. Rockefeller is heavy, even though I put me dangels in business who does power and Kevin Hard and Rachel Roy and every other thing that I've done, and I don't have to do nothing and I got Rockefeller. Everything else is extras. So understand what I mean. So how could you be mad? You know what I mean? Like if it's too much time wasted

on being mad. That's not what E said. I didn't ask give you mad. He said better that people say that. Another thing is who cares what people say? No? I just say no, say I don't care. Yeah, don't know what it's flies flies what I'm saying, I'm never I'm not. You can't let me say you can't. You can't. You can't be a public figure if you care what the public thinks. That's dumb right there. You can't be a public figure if you care with public. Have I ever

done anything anything? Have you ever seen me care? No other than about people I care about, but like care about what people think. If I cared about what people thought, people thought Jay was whacked. Period. Go back rewining a little bit further, look at what the fight was. We had to convince ncause he was, you know, a different dude. Look at it. It wasn't easy, asked Clark kent as these niggas, SA, how hard was it convincing people that

he was the truth? Asked that, asked Keth Lows. Because at Kevin Low's passed the Riff King pass Russell, everybody passed when you were shopping. That's why we had to do it on our own. Yeah, we had no choice. It wasn't like we came through like let's be independent. Everybody got to get that record deal was like a freestyle. The first deal. We just had to get distribution. We was like, we're gonna do anything we can, but they're not giving it to us. We gotta do it ourselves.

But we went every week. Dog. That ship was a fight. You understand what I'm saying. But in the music business it's it's a fight. So like if I'm saying that's why I don't you know what I mean, I'll do it different. And plus, there was no internet, there was no podcast you know what I mean. We was doing hand to hand. We had the persont We was moving around in a path finding ship like that path find Yeah, putting up posters. Now now, um, Jim Jones, you got problems?

What's going on? I want to talk about it. No, they don't want to talk about big up Jim Jones, big and difficultly what because I don't. I don't want to come on, man, Yeah, that's just move on. Forty five I'm forty five five, Really, I am thirty. I'm eight. You got forty trying to give me bubbably thirty nine this year. You got a years older than seven years.

I don't want to do to me. Should welcome to Play, a new podcast network featuring radio and TV personalities, talking business, sports, tech, entertainment, and more. Play it at Play dot it. We're back to drink Champs Radio with Rapper and R and d Jesn. So Dip said, Um, everybody else is good. Your camera is good. I've seen him. There's no such thing as civil war. I'm never gonna have a beat for another

black man that she is stupid. Thank you here what I'm saying, So whatever, whatever, you can't keep them that keep saying what you're saying. That's that's consistent. That's stupid for us to ever fight each other with stupid ship. So no beef with nobody. Man, we all made history. How the funk We're gonna be mad about anything that story. But you're asking me these questions because I'm what's that evolving reporter? No, I'm a bow though. Now you're more

of a roving reporter right now? What is you? Yes, I still don't know what that means. Another drink? All right, let's do it right? No, No, that I can't do that no more. That was yours? Man, Come on, you can't, Dan Dash? Did we get this all around in the world? Why don't we stop? Now? I know the music I can't say we were in the music business is what we did. That's what we did, and we never like

actually like cleared it. It was like a draw. But you never where you think you wanted to drinking bad? But I didn't think about it at all. Actually forgot. I didn't enjoin your thought. I knew it was even can we keep it? Even? Listen, I've been one of the quit thing. No, I've definitely I've been. You know what he said, right, I said I wondered too, but I never said I quit it. Yes, I do. Somebody, what do you want to quit? What do you want to I want to quit this ship? This ship? Yeah,

we saw I'm a vodka guy, solo. You didn't look at my when you tasted. All right there you go, alright, go ahead, go first, drink champ. Yeah, go first, because it's your Hey, he talked you out with that. It's not gonna be to take the shot. He's man white with it. I'm gonna be honest, a lot of white people and you know I'm tracing it with vodka. You'll drinking that looking wrong? Man? You know, Elliot Wilson. Can I not know? Eli? It's a corn boy, you know.

Let's take a shot to that. I'm gonna take a shot to that. Listen quick, well, how did you meet eld Wilson? Does he quit or not? Because we're drinking. I'm not quick, I'm not quick. Take another shot of you gotta take a shot of vodka with me. Listen, you don't shot, you don't change liquors. And that's how we do it and drink done that before. It's my show, kick slum slut. Can you can you work with me?

I've been working with you. Let's let's make that. I don't drink whiskey, but I'm gonna I've been working with you. Do not take one shot of surrod and then that ship and then the interview is over because no, no, no, no, no no no, not not the interview. I mean the all the interview that I got lined up. It's a it's a rat. But come on, things. How about this. We'll finishing with a shot. Can you showing Ellie Wilson for me? We finished? You have a bad story about

having agree meal? I don't remember bad stories. I put him in my rid. Can you therapy? Yeah? Because we don't funk with him? Over here? She squashed it with mother. I forgot. I'm ask you a question. Take a shot? Got damn little that we have an agreement. Try to get me drunk. You got it, you were quiet, and I got it. You got it. Well, let's take a shot at the vodka. Let's take a shot of vodka. This and we done, no no win gun. So then we're not let's do this. Will take a shot of

vaka will be the last thing we do. Let's go, let's gone. You want to do that, it for it. You pour the other joints, he said, he's not dumb man. Let's just make that the last thing we do. But we can have a shot at this that. Let's do. Let's do that shot you're let's go, let's go. Let I can't take a shot ice cue with you, the best CEO hip hop. We're trying to get, trying to bring you back. You're trying to choke a nigger. I'm not doing that. You don't like ice, not in a

shot glass. We take your shots. Yeah, I want to sip in the shots because you're older, pull the older car. We take shots with ice. Okay, well he doesn't do that. He's the youngest. You raised Bookie, right, you got to raise but we won't realize that this is what we do. You can see yourself a millennium. No, I don't know what the milleny it is, but they every are Department four B, Apartment four. Also, and where is this that? Fairfax,

Fairfax Angeles. Also, you didn't come to the Reasonable without I didn't invite it. Also, I'm gonna do the Poppington University because where I'm shooting all of my stuff, my network, you know, to Dame Dash Studios like a sound stage. There's an auditory in there. So I'm gonna be teaching like a class to pop and tinue, like stow them in my gallery. I feel like you can do that. You can be like the Tony Robbins of hip hop. If I feel like it. I'm a lax shot. Well,

I mean do another one. You gotta do a shot of vocket. We're not done with you the whole night. I said when we finished, we're not done. If you say we're done, we're done. Say you're done, Dame, it's not your show. You gotta relax, make your trust, worry please He's give us and then give me a yeah do that, yeah, yeah, yeah, you do a shot at do a shot at Das. Let's do that. You got I'm gonna do it anyway. I'm saying I'm gonna do I'm gonna do it. I'm finished. You're not. I'm gonna

do it anyway. I've never say I'm not doing it, no matter when I'm doing it. This thing is really doing this drinking if this dream Champ you said, I challenged you all around the world, and so we have a drinkers business, right, So you you you want to clear it right now. I ain't ready for you, okay, here that I'm already because I don't come from dream Champs is not ready for me. I'm not ready because I know you take it there. I like that, and we have a door wolves take a shot rocket and

then I'm in with you. I'm in with you. Pay my shot too. Damn. Why you gotta put the ice in the shot? Because you got to be sophisticated, all right. You gotta have ice cubes. I don't know you're gonna have to do a shot with ice cube. Yes, you gotta shot with ice cubes out good ship. No, No, you gotta given a little wanted now. Oh no, no, that's goods. I didn't look sorry, Dan, Please forgive me, forgive me Dan, all right, and you're gonna take a shott Oh you want me to for you? That's he's

a gangster. When nig tell you he wanted him to for your shot, I just pot GEHs right, what we even look? You're gonna take my look at that? Oh man, let's do it. I told you, what do you mean? Why do you think it's? I don't know why I keep doing this show it's it's not proper. I don't know. I went to Bruning Canyon today and I was like, why did I do this? Like? What did I accomplish? I take the ice cubes out. I'm not I never took a shot with ice. But you in my world, now,

that's that's not gangster. You gotta do the whole thing. This is a different the whole thing. More invented enough technique from Hallow and the slip in noise. I heard it come on man noise, So didn't dash man? He finished? Na, No, we ain't finished. Nigga, good, you did everything in the world. You want to do another shot a dusk? We will be honest. City boyd you gonna take a shot? Come on, you want to take a shot? Stop alright, right then stop a right stop one questions you want You asked

a lot of questions. I know we're gonna keep it going. You did ask a lot of you want me to keep a going? You know it's cool. It's cool. I'm gonna ask like two more. Then you have to take a shot. I'm gonna take a shot with us. I'm not I'm not a whiskey guy, but I like that. I'll take all. I did my part. I got a shot. Like, how dope is it that? Like we all have the ones that do have our own liquor. You know what I mean. It's like not to be taking for granted.

You know what I mean? Like it's a beautiful support rapper liquor. It's not When did I ever verse you? Rap? I was warning you? But why you said rapper? Because I'm I don't look at but I'm not all right, I'm you know what the thing is, I'm the only CEO that never laid a verse. Can I sign you as well? I want to write your raps. You've been drinking that rock now you see the question. You're a lot of them. I'll write your ship. What are you talking about right now? Joe? All right? What about shot?

Let's do it. Let's do it, all right, I'm not doing that now. We all got to do the same thing is very hard. It kills me. You didn't kill you at all in my mind to kill me here man, you girl, let's do it. It's good. I'm smoking to bully. Right. So you said it wasn't invited to reasonable doubt. Yeah, you get in the box in the you know where it was? Why you guys give me? I'm just because it's the people I want to. I don't care what the people wanted. But I didn't call you and tell

you to come through? Can you remember that? So why you didn't come? Flue there? I was watching my kids. This makes some noise for day being the best hip hop I love. I'll give you that. You're the best hip hop dad. When the show comes evolves and events and they say hip hop dads, I want you to executive produce, produce and be involved with it because that's what I'm doing. I'm a better dad because of you. Thank you. That's that's that's the best thing. That means

more than anything at what's more important than being a nothing? At? No, I can't think it nothing. It's gold chain, smoke cars. You smoke cigarettes. Smoke a cigarette, let me gangster, if you smoke a camel crush from me. Make a cooler daing, No, no, I don't need to be You don't get the pure brush. You don't. You don't even want me to get one iota cooler. That was very big words Iola cooler, Iola cooler? What is just? And you don't even want to get

a dusk like whatever? The little it's not your coolness. You don't want me to do that. Nobody does, but damn dash, I'm already to You got the streaming system, yeah, extreaming service studios. You got the dust gold Poppington, recenting bottle, got popping You got the um, the whiskey, the whiskey. Yeah, what else you got going? You got the mobus on BT. I see you A support you. I watched the show because you want there and you're my brother, and I

gotta respect that. I appreciate that I watch you. I would definitely watch you on any honey show. And I already told you. I was like, yo, let's just make some TV shows. Remember I said that, Yes, you did tell me that, but you you know, yeah, the white people. I fucked up. What do you mean, fu up a. You're talking about doing well. You're doing what you love. I'm sorry you're having What do you mean you got

your creel with you? You're still fresh. I'm happy. I like that ship would be fresh, right, Yez, Niggers look good, y'all. Queen niggas does don't forget. Don't forget y'all. Y'all definitely look like y'all know some hall of niggers. We got like two hall of niggas, would us? You know, it feels like you've been around the world. It feels like you've been around the world with niggas. Now we've got two all of them niggas. You gotta keep all the nigger with you. Can we go to school together? Shout

of the bean town boys? Huh before me? Oh, go away, go away? Miss Levey Cave. He's every push the tea I ever invented. Come over here, pussy t pushes. Understand he's doing the shot right, Let's go. I'm sorry, but let let me get the pass. Let's don't respect that man. He was there when I saw bigs. Yeah, it's important before me right here right ask cam you asked him.

Let him sit down for because I'd rather somebody else be going No, no, only get because it's better when if I say it, I'm gonna look like a hero all the time. You're gonna hear from somebody else. Lets somebody else. You see your brother always, always, always my brother, You my brother, to be right, you saw that, you saw that, you saw that like big family. Well be on the same level as big Say that again. You can't believe me, on the same level as bigs. Okay,

there's your brother. Thanks for tuning what I can do? Really good? Good boss. No, I'm asking you told me? Yeah, he told me. Because they ain't ain't problems. What do you mean problems? What do you ask? Do you know what problems are? In jail? Not being healthy? Anything else is not really relevant. M M. You think is happy and I'm happy. That's all that should count. M. He's smiling, he's doing this thing. I'm smiling. I'm doing my thing. That we're men. We all have a desire to do

our own thing. That's why we have testicle s. Pause. We want to do things on our own. So this is it. The last question we asked. The last question were drinking? Kick your shot? I got mine? BROT miss vodka. I'll take it. See damn, I was the guest. Now you gotta drink. No, you gotta drink dusk man, Come on, man, drinking dusk for hundred weeks. Can I get a pass if you must? Because because what was that? Like an ice cube working? And it's ice cube right now? You can't.

He was going to come on, take the dusk man, show you half a dust? If anything, I ain't make any more mixing. Yeah, no, don't mix it with that all that. I'm already mixing. You try, but it's not enough. How's not enough? Look? Man, got ice chusing your ship, staying in front, Dave, trying to thug you out right now, trying to do anything. I'll trying to drink the drink chance. This is the dream, chaps, not right now? All right? Friendship, brotherhood, we get one man, he got get along one off

just now. Yeah, your blood your blood, no drink back. I'm sorry. In the signal, tell you what telling you in? I love it. Tell you it's my wife. I love my wife and I love it too. That's your wife. I love my wife. You said your wife. You guys are awkward man. I like my wife. I just said what you said your wife, I said exactly what you said to me bad absolutely, So I'll take a shot right yo speak could you say we'll take a shot? Yo, I'm holding down about this ship? What got you? Mant

you big? I'm trying too bad. But you went in deep early man. That's gonna do that, you know, Elliott Wilson is ship real quickly? You know where radar? Yo, don't know what this asked me about? No girls or not. Now. I don't talk about some chicks and something some money or something. I like when you're talking about us doing some business. That ship was butters got you while I can't kill you. That's the way CEOs do business. They drank a bottle of something right, so I'll post this,

drink this all right? No girl? Oh yeah, got through the toes to good business to twenty years later we're doing big business. You say that because we give you got a drinking slow. She is funny. You're not cheers with me? Ain't your money one cheers the cheers right there? But I tell you, come on, come on things that water? Ask your question? Do you still wear everything new every gig?

Like you always set back when I go outside you if I go outside, you know what I mean, like cousin, get not because sometimes I'd be liking my outfits and ship because I'll be making them. I put them like this. If it's someone else makes it, then I'm throwing that ship out. But if I'm making, I can't throw my ship out. You know my ship is flying. You know I like my ship. I'm weird ship. I can't stop wearing ships. But it's only acceptable then, you know what

I'm saying. I gave NOI something. It's pulling some socks made in American white. Somebody fun right now? Same like you know you said you so ball stop you so ball stuff? You always and control everything. I want to know how you ever been paid pressure in your life? Do I didn't want to do growing up. Yeah, I ain't gonna say no names. But like one time, the older dude I was hanging out with, you know, he

was cooking up a quarter. But he gets you know, they got high back then, so he was like, you know, take something ship, So I got I stepped from cocaine one time one time because your story, you know, he was the older he was a quarter. I was like young, but I had a car and I had switched my car. Listen, listen. You know it was a rapping kid, Charlie Charlie, uh, Charlie Clips his father Leon. You know what. We used to be on the same block and he had a

golf and we had switched up cars. But I had a maximum and I didn't want I didn't want to take the golf back. I lived on the east side, so I was like, so that's why I was up there waiting, and then he was cooking, and you know what I mean. But then some other crazy shit happened. But it was crazy, was that lappy. It would be crazy to talk about. I'll tell you offline, but like you know, I was putting a position where I was. I was putting a position to do something to somebody,

but they didn't show up. And then when I you know, and it was good. It was like God always protected me like that because I couldn't say no. Was the older niggas I'm high. And then like you know, when I was on my way out, the kid he was looking for actually showed up because all the little nigger he was like, yo, come here, shorty, go upstairs. And I was like, now I'm getting the cab, my ship, the chain he just he had just robbed him. There

was a lot of ships like that. It was like I've always been in situations where I didn't like I never had to do anything that I couldn't step away from. Like it was always I was able to like when they got too crazy, like I would like put myself in boarding school. You know what I mean, because it gets a little ridiculous, You know what I mean, Like it just don't make sense for us to be hurting each other. You know, I don't even understand. Did you

hide it? Oh? Yes, over there, Let's do another ship trying to hide my whiskey. Let's do another shot. How you keep getting so many ice cubes when it's just coming from it's his magic drinks. I don't want to loose size, man. I can't even let you know this a little shot. I'll put everybody off here. I'll give you Vane. We love you. David never invited back again, never in it back. I'm still standing. I'm good. I'm good, and he just pretended that's how we get here. He's

acting it's good. It's yo, damn, can you man, don't give us that? Man? You actally like, know me right now? What are you talking about? Okay, when I take a shot, I'll take a shot. Let's go take a shot. Chance. Now, I'm good, I'll take a shot. You got to get you. We're gonna drink each other on the table. Let's do it. Take Yeah, I'm good. I keep saying it. Quit. I don't even want to say a flag. I quit a long time ago. I don't know why I'm in this.

I'm Cuban. I'll drink. Motherfucker, I'm Cuban. A man. Quit So you're done. I want to drink that. Damn. We're like, you're my show man. Look at the drinking form. Ain't even a normal shot on me. Just go, let's go. Let's complain, students, I've never seen any sad. I don't want enough liquor. You want more? Go? Oh? He drinking the dust. He's going, I don't know what the bud you found this out. I'm not gonna look at me like you're nothing. Found the man. Take your shirt off.

You're talking on what he said? What he said him the big thick he said blacks already, let's go. Let's go, man, let's go. Chis chish, come on, did you guys sit with you? Yeah, come on, don't make it. Come on cheering on me too. Come on, come on, drink that dog well, do that all right for you? Now the single gets to go. Don't give you no headache. It's good. Let's go. Fathers. Did you have to go into I don't know why I did that, because we're having fun.

Man in the bood. Your ship is real. Do's go smooth, man, do's go smooth. Can't tell the people believing. Let me stay here. I got to fix in my brain. Okay, judge me. My brain isn't a different different times on this ship. There's a different section changed me right, I kept I kept all right from them againning from the beginning. Thank you, my brother. I love you. Damn. I don't know why we keep getting each other. Five. He's sent me out. He's just talking about right now. You know

you can't ready for drink? Chance, man, you get ready for drinks. Ready for drink champs, damn dad and motherfucking you got some water full. I'm nice, good one of the shot. Let's go. Yeah, I'm gonna cut you off now. Let's go. Mercy not not whiskey, though. You gotta be whiskey. It's gotta be this ship. I'm gonna keep it where don't you want? I can't do that, whiskey. You want to keep going back and for relax. I don't know what I would want going back to it? Man. Yeah yeah,

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