Episode 339 w/ Derek Jeter

your boy in O R? What up is d j e f N? And it's Drink Champs. Will make so nice? This is a very very special episode. We're in a very special place where not at Drink Champion because because people were not a Drink Chams location, because we have as special When I tell you some of the best years of my life is when this man was on the field playing and leading the leader of men, El Capitan.

I watched his documentary three times. The first two times I watched it, I hit a friend of mine and she said she cried, So I said, damn, I need to see where she had to cry, and I realized he wasn't from New York. So a lot of people who wasn't from New York and played against US State didn't cry. The man let us he is. He is a class act AH, five time champion. His accolations keep going and going and going. So we right now on the legendary car bones. By the way, people can't even

get a reservation and we're help filming is crazy. Let's make some noise for the one when I was watched the documentary, I'll tell you what was the craziest part of the documentary to me. For me was when you got drafted right and then your first couple of years in the mining least, what was that? What are those Yeah, you weren't doing good, terrible right, So what made them keep you? They didn't have a choice. They gave me

a big signing bonus. You get drafted high with a signing bus, they're gonna give you an opportunity to make some mistakes. First of all, before we start, thanks for having me, because I keep running into around town and I've been waiting for six years to get invited on this. Finally, now after after months and months and begging finally allowed them. But back to that, yeah, back to yeah easy, because I had didn't hear these years. I had only heard

of these years um when I watched the documentary. But when they was reflecting on it, I was like, this is so amazing the story because how it was the number one in high school and then you went there and then it was like the first couple of years it wasn't we're working out for you? I think, Yeah. First of all, I think one thing you have to realize is anyone that's had success in any profession has failed everyone. You don't hear about it, like you two

have failed. You just show up and now you got drink chances. You got bumps along the way, bumps in the road. Part of the how do you stop it from being a roadblock, you know what I mean. So I'm coming from Calamusoo, Michigan. No disrespect to Calumus. It was just a small town, you know, not known. I guess for professional baseball players. Now you go from playing in Kalamazudi, now you're playing against the best players in the world. And I was completely overmatched, completely overmatched. And

but I mean that's when you you gotta bounce back. Man, you gotta learn from your failures and and you got to try to look at the bright side and and um. But yeah, thanks for starting this off by have me go down memory lane when I was bad. I appreciate that stories. It's the fruition that that your parents even had, Like I've seen your baby pictures of you with a Yankee you more like it was almost spooky to see that because it was like, this guy is exactly who

he's made to be looking back. Yeah, but I mean, one one thing is is I give my parents a lot of credit because you need the people closest to you reinforcing your dreams, right, Because anytime you have a far fetched dream in other people's minds, everyone's telling you you're never going to achieve. It's just what you're gonna hear. You can't you can't achieve. It's like in a documentary. Who then are you to tell me that I can't

achieve my dream? You know, and my parents, who are obviously closest to me, I said I could do it as well. So you need to support and they supported me from day one. The only thing ever wanted to be and always short, stop, always short. My dad was you know I played shortstop. I was trying to be you and I didn't heard about you. About birthday too, I couldn't Thanks for the invites to the party. I

mean I got three girls five and under. Yes, so if you have a birthday lunch, I'll get to the birthday. Oh my god, so be bouncing around a little bit. But um, best year in my life. I'm platinum Yankees World Series? Can you describe that year? It was my hat? What's my hat? Man? You know, you have a good year in baseball. First of all, it's a hundred and sixty two games. You have a good year, you win a hundred games, and people say, what did you go

that year? We were a hundred and fifty Wow. Yeah, counting the postseason where SEVENTI five games over five hundred. So um, I mean, it's just one of those years where I looky. It's it's tough to compare rors, you know, whether it's in music or whether it's in sports. But I would put that team up there against any team in the history of that They said the game when

we googled, they named that the best Yankee team ever. Good. Yeah, I didn't know that great, Okay, Like I said around a little bit, and I'm bringing my brother in a little while. But all of my friends I went bord to Derek g New Jersey. They're laughing at me already. I went and what I For some reason, maybe I've been in Florida too long. I didn't know that if I had your name on the back of it, it's not official. They would literally not let me come in

here with this jersey because let's hear from you. So if to be official, you can't have your name, one name, no. Yankee is one of the few teams that don't have their names New Jersey. You know. It's actually I give you a little history. Yankees is the first team to have numbers on their uniforms, and it used to go by the order in the lineup, which is why Ruth was three, Garrett was four. So we're the first team to have numbers on the units. And the reason why

you don't have it's all about the team. It's not about you know, It's all about the team ultimately. That's what matters. I mean, it's it's winning in anything in life, it's winning. I mean, I have problems. He's probably saw the documentary. I mean to have competition problems. You can say you want to race down the street, I'm gonna try to beat you racing down the street. And if I don't beat you, we're gonna go do it again. You know what I mean. It's just so ultimately that's

what you play for us to win. Personal accolades are great, they come along with it, but you know, you're don't have a team success. Yeah, that that's crazy because they were my friends. Was exactly right. They and I'm sitting back and I'm like, why did that didn't know that? Like, and they all like, you're a bozo. You shouldn't know that. And and I literally they would not let me let you sign that. I said, I want to. Uh wow, that's so. I'm glad. I'm glad. I'm glad. I got

a good team. I'm glad. Thank you diego um dude said young. Really they had they had an intervention with me, Like I felt like I was on drops. It's necessary. Interventions are necessary? Is there anything like the Yankees fans? Because what did the Yankees? What did they just win? Just now? Yeah? Is is that the best fans in the world by far? It's not even close. You know. The thing with the Yankee fans. Are they pay attention every single day? You mentioned we had a rough patch

towards the end of the year. First of all, we want a division in April it was over. We just like five months that, you know, we already won and we had a rough patch at the end, and you're walking down the streets and you know, fans yelling you better turn it around. You guys are gonna blow it. I'm like, damn, we have games right now, but they watch every single day. They expect excellence. Uh, they do

not take excuses, right. I mean, you gotta stand in front of your locker and you have to answer questions where things don't go well. And you know, it's like I always just tell my teammates if you want to escape the locker room, do it. When you have a good game, you know, you find a lot. I find out a lot about people when how they handle adversity. New Yorkers want to see First of all, I don't know if you necessarily say they want to see you fail,

but they do. They want to see how you're gonna bounce back to Yes, yes, yes, so Yankee fans are the best. Man. Do we still hate Boston fans, I wouldn't say it's a hatred. Um, I gotta be careful, man, I still walk around. You know, it's he's outside. I've said it before. After they won in two thousand four, they softened a little bit. My parents didn't even go back to Fenway Park because they were brutal. And I'm sure Red Sox players will tell you the same thing.

New York fans are brutal. But they softened a little bit. And um so now I have no issues with Boston fans. Plus we won more than they did. So would you like some opus one? One? No, I'm gonna let you handle that. You just want to make sure you don't do that one that's daily on. Thanks, look'd be nervous. Okay, Thanks? And you got you got? You got straight vodka, straight straighter, hardy. Let me put it out there. It's right now. I don't want to it's noon. You haven't eaten a thing? Yes,

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like the only one like in baseball history. And then and they also saying a black owner. Was it pressure? How was it? Because Miami fans are a little different. Well, I keep example, I first came to a Heat game and I'm sorry, y'all, no, no, I'm sorry. I've never seen this before in my life. And Lebron wasn't. They like, Lebron didn't win. The whole stadium went out, like half of the stadium left. I was like, New York fairs will never do that. The Nicks could be getting pounded

and we'll still be there with our popcorn. So Miami fans are different. How was that experience? Well, let me start with you know, I've lived in I lived in Tampa on the other side of Florida twenty some years. We had our player development and spring training facility there, so I always lived in Tampa so I could work out the entire offseason. And I love Florida, live here for a long time. And you know, major league teams,

I should say, sports franchises don't trade that office. It's not like you can just wake up one day and say, hey, oh yeah, I want to get together by a team. So I wanted to to acquire a team that was close to home. Um and it just so happened that Miami came up, and so I put together an ownership group and and we purchased the team. And one thing about about Miami fans, when you're comparing Miami and New York, right, New York is generational fans. You know, you are born

a Yankee fans. Your grand your your parents were your grandparents, your great grandparents. You basically have no choice, and you have no And then you know you come to Miami, especially you know the baseball team, it's a new franchise with a checkered pass. They have the history of they've won a couple of times. They get rid of everyone, and we came in, we made changes. I look at it as a challenge. You know, everything in life is challenging.

Anything that means something to you a challenging. So never shied away from it. And and and we we I think as a sports fan, and it's understandable. You look at wins and losses. That's how you judge an organization. I get it. But there's a lot more that goes along with it. And you have to build a great front office. You have to build a great minor league system. Unfortunately, it takes time, It takes patience, I don't have any patience, right, but I'm trying to kids now, so I'm trying to

work on my patients. But it takes some patience. And and we accomplished quite a bit, I think in my time with the organization and and um, you know, whether it went to the postseason for the first time in seventeen years. I mean, look, no matter how you look at ultimately your goals to win a championship, but there's steps along the way, you know, because you know, during my career, I was known for seeing if you didn't win a World Series, seasons of failure, it is a failure.

Plus I won my first year, you know what I mean. So there's nowhere you know, I'm not I'm not saying it for I'm just saying, you know, that's that's the goal we set, right, That's that's the president we said we won. So next year what gett into the World Series doesn't mean anything. So I'm down here in Miami. There's steps along the way. So we made we took some steps in the right direction. I'm proud of the front office that we built, Um, the diverse front office

that we built. And unfortunately, like I said, when I left. You know, the direction of the team changed, and um, it wouldn't be me if I was still there because they blamed you with what God blame me for everything, which is fine, which is fine talking about. But what's the guy that they traded to New York because they

blamed you for that? You you remember? Yeah, But I mean, look, this is the way I look at it, right, Um, they look Miami hats great players, we took over, but for whatever reason, they didn't win for whatever reason, So there needs to be changed, right, I mean I worked for George Steinbrenner. You didn't do your job, you were gone. I mean, it's just black and white. When are you you make changes? So yeah, we made changes. I know there's a lot of unpopular decisions that that were made.

But you know, I'm fine. What do you think it's hard of being a player or being an owner? Uh? Man? You know what, when you play, you have a chance to affect the outcome of a game. Wow, when you're up there watching, you can't control it. I mean you can't. You know, you see things from up in a suite, you see it as if you were playing. But it's not like you can go down there and say something. You know, so it's it's it's a challenging I's going

to accent. Have you ever, like as the owner was like, man, let me go suit up. No no no no no no no no no no no no, let's get one let's get one thing straight. I'm done. I would not. I would embarrass myself. I understand how difficult it is to play the game. I understand people are going to fail, and we talked about it earlier. I actually like to see when players fail because I watched what you do when you're walking off the field. I watch what you

do when you're in the clubhouse. I watched what you do in postgame interviews. I see it tells me a lot more about an individual when they struggle, like like like like you know, um, in sportsmanship, they shake hands after win all loss. So if a person doesn't take a hand, you feel like a good sportsmanship. Have you ever? I wasn't shaking hands with people and we lost. You know what I mean? No, I didn't do that. There's

funny story. When I was younger, I was playing little league and my dad coached me for just a couple of years. I was trying to beg him for years and coach me. And one time we lost the game and I refused to shake literally he shake hands. I refused to shake hands with the other team. So you know, he pulled me aside and say, man, you need to start playing an end of visuals for it, said because you know it taught me a lesson, right. I mean, you don't want to say you lose gracefully because you

never accepted. But I think it's it's you understand that you know you can't walk around with your head up high when things are going good and then all of a sudden you disappear when things don't go your way. So I didn't, Man, I wasn't shaking hands after we lost, But um I did it. I lost respectfully. Yeah, I understand, I understand. Understand. Holy, I got notes and all type

of things. I'm getting into it. Let's go Holy. But how many years were you at the Marlan uh four and a half, four and a half, four and a half, And did you do you think that you were able to accomplish some of the things you were trying to create that process to get the team where they needed to be. And it all starts with people. You gotta have the right people in place, and it's it's um you know, I said it in the documentary. Remember when Um Theopstein had a lot of success in Boston, then

he went to Chicago. And when he got to Chicago and he told the fan base, he's gonna take us five years. Right. I never put a time frame on it because I think if you tell someone it's gonna take us a few years, you're making it okay for them to fail. I expect you when you compete, you're expected to win, right. Um. So I think we we made a lot of progress. Um not enough. Um So I I I'm more happy, and I'm more proud of

the people that we put in place. I mean, and and up until when I left, right, and you were supposed to be with Diddy and j Lo the night of the n Y Club shooting, I wouldn't well, I wouldn't. Yeah, I wouldn't necessarily say supposed to be, Um, you know my boy and Mike. Yeah, So we were out right

after um, right after a game. We're eating and then um, you know, Puff had mentioned to Mike, why don't you guys I'm buying And I was like, they say it all the time, Ma I'm gona stay out of trouble tonight, say it all the time. So it was just that, Yeah, it was avoided a conflict. It was crazy case. I'm sitting there and me and Puff. Uh last time I seen you was here, correct, And I think me and Puff is there and running him down. The documentary and

there's such so much of events. It's like you are, like I keep forgetting you're not from New York City, like born and raised, because my whole life in New York City, I've known to beat this. Yeah, I've said this before. You know what's what it's. I think it's called The Truman Show. Jim Carrey blew up on television. That was me because I came to New York I

was twenty years old. We talked about it before. Yankee fans watch every single game, so they watched me grow up, and I watched Yankee fans grow up too, you know. So we grew up together. And the great thing about baseball's every single day. I'll tell you. I'll tell you something that's that was weird for me as a as a Yankee fan was I didn't think that the Yankees should have ever took a Rod. I felt like that was both the opposition. You were solidified. I didn't know

why they ever like brung him on. But one thing with New York Man and Yankees, and especially Mr Steinbrenner, you can play. He wants you. He wants to win. Man. I told the story before you know. Mr Steinbrenner, the late George Steinbrenners a big football guy with a great relationship because he was an Ohio State guy. I grew up in Michigan, so we used to butt heads all

the time on Michigan Ohio State football. And I say he's an old football guy because he had a real He had a real tough time realized that the one who didn't want to pay you when you were we get to that. So so in a hundred and sixty two games, he had a tough time understanding that you may actually lose a game. Now, I I'm of the mindset every time you take the field, you have an opportunity to win a game. You should play and expect to win, right, But I also understood you can't win everything.

He didn't understand that, you know, so Um, he expected everyone to be accountable. UM. And if there was a player that he felt as though would help us win, and he would go get him and you got to tip your cap to him because, um, in my mind he is one of the greatest owners in all sports. But a tough guy. Oh yeah, he was a tough guy. He used to challenge you, his best players, he would challenge, He would call you out publicly. He would. Yeah, he would try to embarrass you, just to see how you

were going to respond. Because it takes a certain type of individual a deal with everything that comes with New York, and um, he would find out. All right, we gotta get his flowers. Man. That's why listen our show. It's about giving them people their flowers while they alive, tell them how great they is today face. We want you to know you are greatness. You've made us proud. We we we we We're gonna give you your flowers to your face than tell you how greatness is said, come on,

Mr Leave, he's never on point with us. Yes, I appreciate that, man. That's a little that's a little details in the third team flowers, and it's for a certain reason. Come on, Paul, Oh my goodness, I know you know when you went to the Yankees and you asked me him with thirteen because of your father. He played and he was number thirteen. We just wanted to respect the fact that we understood that detail. What's so important to you, So we made those flowers give their team since you

didn't get it. He really did some research. Yeah, you did some research. I like it. I like it. Thank you. So how did you want up getting the number two? Then just gave it to me? Man? I think it was the smallest jersey, I really do you know there was a guy by the name of Mike Diego that

were number two before me. Mike Diego is probably what five six, five seven, and um, you know when I played basketball in high school, and you know in basketball, they always make you a little taller, a little heavier, right, So I was listed as six three one five when I was drafted, and the first thing they do in the Yankee sigmon is they measured me and put me on a scale. I was six to one dress dressed. So when I finally got to New York, man, I

probably weighed one. So I just think number two was There's all these rumors of why they gave me number two. I just think it was the smallest jersey They had Man and something else that was very interesting. It was Google. Then this only Google is dangerous. But it's only like the history of like ten captains on the Yanking like if that like, so I always thought that they was. I didn't know this was elite when they called you the captain, did you know? Did you know that I did?

It's not a title that's thrown around lightly in the Yankee organization. Um, I believe I was eleventh one. I mean, there's some historical accounts that there were a couple more. If I think they said, don't quote me on it, so you can erase it if I'm wrong. But I think they said Babe Ruth was a captain for a day. I think I kind of got into something and got in trouble different times, different times back then. So yeah,

it's not a title is thrown around lightly. So I always I always took that responsibility and and you know I I tried to represent the organization in the best light. I could. You believe in the Curse of Babe Roof, I did, Yeah, I did. I mean they obviously broke the curse. But yeah, there's some just some strange stuff that happened. Man, every time we played Boston. It's like Boston just couldn't figure out. You waited for him to screw it up. Yeah, he waited for him to screw

it up. So it was one time he was winning, he was like, don't worry. Else You're like, You're like, don't worry. Yeah. But yeah, they they ended the curse in a way. Yeah. Look, Joyce starburn in My next, My next. So didn't he get fired at one point or didn't he let him go as an owner and no comment? Oh, I didn't know. I didn't know. You know, he had you know, he had some Yeah, there were some issues that he had My favorite player's Dame of Winfield. Yeah,

so there was some issues he had with Dave. So he was suspended. He was suspending for some time. Yeah, And I actually a matter of fact, I think that's probably one of the reasons why the group of young players that I came up with were able to stay with the organization because the boss was known he's gonna go get free agents, right, he didn't get and patience for young players, and um, you know, Bernie Williams was the first one that really got an opportunity and had

some success. So yeah, the boss was suspended for a while. Bernie Wins that was your best friend, right, Bernie came was a little a little before us. Yeah, okay. You said in the documentary that if there was phones back then, like I phones, Yeah, like I phones, any kind of recording any kind of recording device, because you know New York man, I mean, we used to go out um in New York and we'll be out four o'clock in the morning. You leave a place and there's a line

to get in. You didn't have to worry about anything because there was There was page six, but there were no photos. If it's just words, it's a rumor. Yeah, it really wasn't me. You know, you don't have a picture. It wasn't me. So it's now man, it's it's I feel bad for for you know, young athletes and entertainers that you know now everyone's a member of the media because they have a phone. No matter what you do,

they have a phone. You find that annoying. Do people just put their phone on you when you you're out and about. Sometimes people have been respectful for the most part, but you know what, I what I tell people, especially young players, you have to assume everything you do is public knowledge. Unless you're in your own house, everything you to his public knowledge. And that's a rough way to live life, man, it really is. And it just keeps getting I don't want to say worse, but it's just

everything you do, man, you just never know. Like the other day, I was walking to someone and I'm wanting to meet one of my friends and he has one of his people with me, and that person didn't even say hi to me, just automatically just pulled out the phone and just started filming. And I was like, in what world is this cool? Like it's like my friend saying nothing, nothing, nothing. The dude just start feelming me.

And I was like, you don't think I deserve see I'm coming to see my friend and he he looked at me like no, and I looked like this is my personal time. And it's like this error is like really like it's it's like every day yours out and film them, which is saying, pull your phone out and start filming them. Make someone comfortable, yeah it, get it out, you start taking them right, yeah, do it back to back.

You think that I was just like a good guy, like and they're saying nothing wrong with it, Like I mean, you know, the thing is is what's what's what I find to be disappointing. I don't want to be like a back in the day guy. Someone always says you're back in the day guy, because every time I go back in the day, but people don't have experiences anymore because they're so focused on capturing it and sharing it

with other people. So you go to a concert, you go to a sporting event, and this is this is what you're doing. Well, enjoy the experience, you know, because those are things you can't get back, the feeling you have, and the experience is something that you could remember. Now. My last season I played, I kept a journal every day. I wrote down how I felt. Now I didn't necessarily have to be about a game, but just how I

fell on that particular day. And I wish I would have done that my entire career because there's so many things you forget about, experiences you forget about. That's what the documentary was fun Fail because I'm listening to everyone else share their experiences. You know, but those are the things you have. You talked about New York back in the day, going out having fun, you know, you run into someone you can twenty years ago, but you remember how you felt when you were with him at the time.

So I think that's that's that's something that that's something that I think is missing nowadays. You gotta enjoy experiences. It's crazy, man, It's crazy. Uhuh with this generation has led to like it's like no privacy at all. And I just thought, and it has to make you appreciate the era that you played in. It does Yeah, yeah, I mean I value privacy, you know, I'm I'm I think take it to another level, you know what I mean. That's why when we did the documentary, and initially I said, no,

absolutely not, I'm just not gonna do it. I wanted to film the potential Hall of Fame call that I would get and then film the ceremony so I could share it with my my girls. I had three now, but I had two at the time. And then it turned into why don't we do a larger project around your entire career? And I was like, and I ain't doing it because I've said this before. Once you let the toothpaste out of the tube, you can't put it back in. Once you start sharing it, man, it's it's

it's you can't get it back. And I said, you know what, man, it's it's it's my career, it's what happened. Um, somebody's gonna do it at some point. I'm going to do it. So I'm happy that I did. So let's let's like I said, we're bouncing amround a little bit, but let's go. When a Road had made those comments and I'm talking about the comments when he said, uh not Kendall, Oh yeah, he's from Kendall, is from Kendall. These guys from day be careful, they might be these

boys over there. We don't know. We gotta don't worry about you. Good. But um, I believe he said that, Um that that that Derek's team won, like and that how did you feel when he when he when he said that correct, I mean, you know what we want. Um, you know, my my thing is sorry. But look, I mean, everyone made such a big deal and I understand it such a big deal out of our relationship because of things that were said in the media. This is twenty

years ago, pretty much, you know. And um, that's why in the documentary, I wanted the people. I wanted people to know how I felt at the time. Now a lot of things in life have happened since then that it's over, it's beyond. I don't I don't feel that way anymore. But at the time how I felt was I'm extremely loyal. I wouldn't do it to a friend. And just there's just no yeah, there's just I just moving. Man.

It's just I've said it's maybe it's a character flaw for me, but I just turn it off like that and I won't ever think about it again. It's just you move on. But I think as I've gotten older, things happen in life, life experiences. I have a family, now, you lose close friends. I lost a very close friend of mine, and I don't want to feel a certain way when I see someone. Man, So if if I

have something to say, I'll say it and we move on. Right, You have acquaintances, you have friends, right, And I think, um, you only have so many real true friends. And I value relationships. I value my friends. I'm extremely loyal and I'll continue to be that way. And was was it was? It was it coming from like a sidebar, like were

you shocked or were you liked? Because because you know, being famous is a fucking great and terrible thing, right, because like the person could be one way and then then they've didn't afforded the camera be a totally different way. Was did you feel like snakes? Did you feel like betrayed because of his comments? Yeah, there were some feeling. Yeah, of course, you know, of course you see and you're like, well, what is this? You know, first it's coming out of

left field. You know, I'm like, where is this coming from? But once again, we were twenty something years old back THEMN man like, now it's I don't care. I mean, I have a good relationship. Are walking here right now? What's going on? I just did his show in New York recently. You know, we've gotten together before the documentary came out. You know, I wanted to reach out and say, hey, look, you know he was a part of the document I wanted him to be a part. I wanted him to

tell his side. You know, any friction I had with any particular person in my career, I wanted them to tell their side. I didn't want to do a puff piece, you know, Um, I didn't want everyone just saying great things about me and a puff piece that means he doesn't mean daddy, I mean if you had a problem with me, say it. I had some problems with people too. I have no problem saying it. But um yeah, I have no issues whatsoever. That that's you know, this is

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get help today by visiting shatter proof dot org. No, no, man, it's not an honor that we get the captain to sit down. And by the way, I'm just being honest with you. You are the most humblest legend like ever, like you always respectful, you always kind of say the right thing. Are you a maniac? Like yeah, well we gotta define maniac, you know, because I got a friend named s p K and everyone when we see him, and he's always the same, but it be like something

about himself. We spread a room or yeah, we spread a room. He's a night killer. People like, let let's clarify. I'm not Jeffrey Domond. I'm not dumb now the Bronx. That's why I wanted to bring um I'm do saying right now. A lot of people don't know Yankee Stadium. It's smack dead in the middle of the hood. This is my brother from one five seven in your card, and I remember going to see them at times and the hood will be old southern parking spots and then

and me, I'm from Queens, so I actually lived. I lived about it ten minutes away from UM Well, and I would know the difference going like going to Shade Stadium. It's not in the hood. Uh, City Field is not in the hood. But there's no way you could get this Yankee Stadium without avoiding the hood. How was that when you just you even walk into the locker room. Got know, New York has embraced you. But how was that for your your teammates? Like getting that real New

York and this is the bronze. Yeah, I mean well, first of all, it was intimidating for opposing players, you know, especially you're taking to the old stadium, the old stadium. Market players did not want to come to Yankee Stadium. Did not want to come and you know and part of the reason, and you know, you have a new stadium now. The new stadiums unbelievable, especially for the amenities

for the players and the fans. But a lot of times it looked like it's empty because there's all these underground suits, restaurants and you know, you can watch games in the hallways old Yankee Stadium. If you wanted to watch the game, you had to be sitting in your seat. And a I used to watch the game from the roof.

Ye yes, yes, yes, you can't even get you can get into the stadium when you can watch it after like the after it wasn't fact they used to come around and give out tickets, yo, golfellas, you know, to make it fluffing up. When we was young, we didn't have nothing. We should go to the roof and look through the slat in right field talk. Yeah, yeah, you had to do it and and and the thing is is that's what made it intimidate. People didn't want to

come here, uncomfortable coming to the Bronx. And I think that played as an advantage to us psychological because you remember the players used to come through the back, through the gate parking lot, through the people, walk through the people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was literally a park. The player parking lot was hit. It's a street that people drive and we had a park with the basketball courts and everything, hamble everything, so everybody it's just movement. So the players is coming. If

you was a Yankee, we loved you. If it was like a red Sock or Mariner, the boll accedentally hit you. There's still batteries that stadium, man, Yeah, it was it was great. Great. This is this is so crazy because I can I can literally see I've been to both stadiums. Let me tell you something, I haven't been to a lot of the games. I've always watched them. I was a Yankee fan all my life. Like he said, it's generational. You don't have no choice, like the yet y'all queens,

you should be fighting with the just run again. Yeah, growing up, like like growing up, you gotta be you from here. If you come around with the Bosston, have we taken your head? And he kind of had, let's just this one. So it was like, if it wasn't that move, let me ask you one question. Why why is this only official? Yeah, it has to be gra that's the original. He just tells you these guys. Yeah, everyone, you don't need me here. The fucking Yankee specialists like that.

My nephew dude and Diego. They pulled me to the side. We said that jersey that you post line, you embarrassed us. Good friends. That's good friends, friends hoping somebody see. I had no idea, Like I literally they literally had an intervention. So we're like, yo, we got there just coming tomorrow and I don't know if they had to talk before when it just all came to me at the same time, it was like listen, buddy, we we actually take it

all for Instagram down. I was like, what, there's like we are not wearing on the back and I'm so I'm bleeding with them. I'm like, come on, man, it's just a it's a fanship. They're like, no, I said, let me just fan out. They're like, no, you are not bringing it and and to hear you co sign it. I'm never gonna get away with this. By the way, Sunny d your dad, I don't know what I'm saying, like no, but it's okay to keep buying the church

taking right, you know. It's crazy. So when after they hit me with the information, I had my my boy diego call Actually Yankee Stadi stand stand. So we call and they're like, oh, no, his jersey's still sold out. Do you know that? I don't, but thank you. That was like, and you know, we want to braxt were like, you know, we're interviewing Derek's here. You know, I never like wh these asholes. He's like, but but she didn't know, she didn't know what She's like, No, his jersey is

still sold out. She's like I felt like she was a black lady because she was like child honeys for a long time. I just went back to the stadium for the whole week ago. How did we not talk about the Holy Fame? Yea. I remember when we first tried to get get you for the interview, and I believe Mike called me and Mike said, why don't we wait to after after um he gets the Hall of Fame him? And I just remember that call was so fly to me approach. He just said to me after

the Hall of Fame. I was like, Oh, I said, I don't know if he knew he was lost? How how is I know? We said, I spoke a little about it earlier. Did you know he was being adducted to the Hall of Fame prior? No? No, no, no. And it was one dude that didn't vote for you. Remember his name is I don't you know? No, you know what. I don't know who it is. But let me let me start with first of all, I don't

care and the reason why. You know, it's tough to get that many people to agree on anything in life, right, And who would I be to say everyone should have voted for me? I mean, Hank Karon wasn't you know what I mean? Babe? Ruth wasn't unanimate. You go through There's only been one, which is Mariano. The only issue that I have is as an athlete, reporters expect you to be accountable. They expect you to sit there and answer questions about how you performed. And now I have

to answer questions about whoever this one individual is. You know, like the last a few years, I got to answer the question he or she should be the one that's answering the question of why they didn't vote for me. I don't care, right, I don't care. They don't put the number of votes on the Hall of Fame fact like, right. But but if you're preaching accountability, you have to be accountable yourself. I ain't gonna lie. It's a good one. Look at my legs. I know you're going down. Yeah,

reporter is that did because you could be humble? Let me, let me, let me take this. Whoever that reporter is, we want to put horseship in your shoes, damn. So make sure you can protect your feets because we're looking for you. Okay, we're looking for you. Holy yo, quick time. Okay, okay, okay, this is where this is where the show gets a little crazy. Right, we fancy for crazy. I feel like we're keeping boys down. I feel like that, like it's

the principal gonna come out of Okay, we got quick time. Okay, so I'll explain the game. It's very simple. Uh, you don't have to take the shots. We'll we'll be the bollsos for you to take the shots. We're just gonna Okay, So what did it? We'll give you two choices. We'll give you, Uh if you say both be politically correct, then we take a shot, or neither if you say both are needed. If you don't pick one choice, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, the first one is fantastic. That was you? Okay, that

first one's fantastic. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, Okay. Ozzie Smith or Cal Ripton Jr. He already knows this game. These are good, Okay. Can I explain it's not just one of you. I will go with Cal And I'm gonna tell you why because when I was growing up, I was a taller short stope six ft two six three, and everyone used to say, you know, you're too tall

to play the position. And as a tall shortstop, your first line of defense was we'll look at cal rickn Jr. Right, So Cal sort of changed the mold for shortstops being taller so I would say cal just because he was closer to I'm not diving around flip into him back flips like I can't relate to Ozzy. I can't relate to Ozzy. Okay, baby Wolf or Lou Garrett damn man love But what what? But? But is there more to the question? Is if you want to say both people,

we will drink for you. I feel like I'm getting chat R lou Was Lou Was, lou Was, m Yankee captain Babes, larger than life. Just just get the drink. Let's go. I'm just brown, brown, man bad, gonna be proud of you. Were getting you that jail? Okay, where is it? It's basically the same thing. Anyway, This is to you, This is to you. How many of these questions we got it? Oh? Because you're from Kendall, I want you to ask the next one. Or Barry Larkin, man,

I mean I played with Alex. You know what I mean. It's my teammate Berry. I love Barry Larkin because, um he went to University of Michigan. I grew up in Michigan. I love Barry Laren, But I played with Alex. Okay who Bernie Williams or Ricky Henderson the same thing I played with Bernie. But I mean, but Ricky Henderson man greatest leadoff hitter in the baseball history. I love Ricky. I used to just watch situation Yeah from the Bronx Okay two pocket DMX. The game is made for that.

The game is made that thinks you just made his made just for that. You drink yeah, Brome, take this whole shot. The captain is it's not making the and we're coming off the last night. Thank you, sir. Okay, this is a great one, all right. Dallas Strawberry or Tino Martina Columbia, yours would say, you know what they do, let me just explain what happened. We come, we sit down with together, and then they analyze everything and then they start making up ship that they think it's gonna

be hard for you. So if you have any beef, that's the Dominican right there. We're going to the show. And then the Colombia. Well, first of all, I would say, both me explain, let me explain. Cheers. M Um. Tina one of my closest friends during my career. You live down the street from me in Tampa. Um, I got my first major league hit. Tina was the first basement for Seattle, and he told me, congratulations, just the first of many. Right, you got Straw? The Yankee signed Straw.

He came to Triple A, played with him in Triple A, and and Daryl was like a big brother to me, especially early on in my career. He sat me down and told me the expectations of playing in New York. Who you need to look out for all the mistakes he made. Don't fall into the same trap. He played for the medicine and so I think you know they're there. You talk, yeah, I mean you talk about players that you know. My my my thing. In anything you do.

You can't be an expert at anything unless you've done it. You can't be You can be knowledgeable, but you're not an expert unless you've gone through it. Now, straight marriage adviceful person that never been married exactly, you said that. I didn't say that, um so so Straw is someone that had experience in terms of being a young player, came to New York at a young age, had success, Thank you for the water, had success. Um made mistakes and he shared those mistakes, and he looked out for me.

So I can't pick one. We already did it, what we done. This is a good one, This is a good one, This is this is this, I don't want to call it this stair where's questing? But who can say? Walk with wire? All right? I mean honestly, I'm gonna be honest with you, jose Can Saco. It's easier to rhyme in my rhymes. But you know what I played with jose He was on a Yankees for a minute. He was Yankees for a minute. Serial issues with jose Can Saco. You know he was pretty quiet when he

was with us. He wasn't with us long. He was with us in UM two thousand when we won the World Series. You know, Mark, I don't know, Well I don't, But why why why You've never been acute taking any and it has been nothing. I don't know. Check the way I always looked at it were um two things. One my dad was a drugging alcoholic, youst counselor. I've heard stories growing up. It scared me to death right to this day. I when I'm doing something, I try

not to disappoint my parents. You know that fear you have kids, You know what I mean? And too with the Yankee organization, we got compensated for winning. Yeah, stats are great, you put up stats, but ultimately, if you won, you got paid. That's the only thing that I cared about was winning. But so there was no user. Never at the gym, and somebody can try to pump you

some some roys. Somebody came like that to me. That's how somebodyself steroids because listen, listen my way, let me let's list let's we live in my I'm not going down to you. Better stay over there, chail listening FLEXI like that. It's the only place in Miami, right, I mean Equal Knox randomly, I mean Equal Knox. Jim. I'm just I'm thinking, I'm and the dude just walks up to me and says, hey, man, we could cut this down. Shut up very fast. Process, he said. So I say,

I've never been open steroids before in my life. So I said what he said, Man, I got that, Dang, two weeks you'd be a different man. I just like, so, I'm gonna tell I'm gonna tell you what. Let's let's let's clarify one thing. You know, And first of all, you know when when when you hear people say it was the steroid era everybody was doing and bullshit, everybody was not doing that's right, And it wasn't you And

it wasn't. I never didn't wasn't. It wasn't like you walk in a clubhouse and all the teammates were getting together saying, you know you're taking this, you're taking that. You know what I'm saying. The position I was in in the organization. First of all, if you thought someone was doing something, do you think they're gonna come tell me about it? You know what I mean. So it's not like it was just just open secret that everyone

was discussing. It wasn't right. That's that's ill, because all right, let's move out of the staterboys are all right. I was trying to distract you from these questions. I ain't gonna I'm gonna take a shot for that myself. Oh I like this one. M j Lebron. I mean, Michael's my like my big brother man. So love Lebron. I don't know him well, you know, I've only met him a couple of times. I love him, but Michael's a

big brother. I can't I can't believe how much Jordan was in your documentary like like because you could tell he doesn't do nothing like for nobody, and the fact that he came out and supported you it made it made it look good and then didn't think about it. Is I started to realize that y'all are like if they was to say Michael Jordan, they say he's the Derek Jeta of basketball. I don't know who says that.

I do. A couple of young brothers here, right, I'm sorry, and the Wayne way it is, my friend, it's a couple of young brothers here. So they say, they say to him, well, Derek Jeeta is to what Dave County is to with the Wayne way it is. And I had to say stop please, and I said, no, he is the Michael Jordan. Well, first of all, I appreciate it, um, but I expect the way Michael and I met when

he was actually playing baseball. Right, So he was playing baseball and we're playing and there's this lead called the Arizona All League where they take the top prospects in the minor leagues and they play. When the season is over, they play an extra few weeks in Arizona. So this is where I met Michael for the first time. I was nineteen years old. I had just one minor league player of the Year, right, I got that, And and and we're playing Michael's playing in Scottsdale, and he was

on second base. Yeah, in Arizona. So so he was on second base, and first thing he said to me is, what's up, DJ. I'm Mike. There's another DJ behind me. And UM. From that point forward, Man, he just always looked out for me. He always looked out for me, and I appreciated it and taught me how to handle yourself, not only on the field off the field, on the court. Off the court. UM still go to him for advice. You talked about all these athletes that are involved in business.

He was the first, him in Magic, Him and Magic, they were the first. And UM, but Michael's always looked out for me, man, And literally he's he's like a big brother to me because like my Mike with everybody. So the fact the fact that you know what I'm saying, Like like I said, he's in the whole documentary. I thought that was very impressive. Okay, New Yorker, Miami, good good one. Sorry, y'all, we understand we're gonna get jumped

after the way. But it's okay, major League. I don't know what the hell you're saying that or the bad news bears league. Major League is one of my favorite the first one, the first okay, so you picked Major leaue the first one? Okay? Michael Jackson or Prince were drinking. Uh, just the music because you know you gotta music. Don't matter which where the other one? Net one, Prince, Dave Winfield or Reggie Jackson. God damn. First of all, I'm sorry I didn't eat yet. Um, Dave was my favorite

player growing up. Um, I love Dave Winfield. One of the first athletes to have their own foundation. So when I was younger, I was reading up on Dave and yeah, Dave Winfield post on my wall, and Um, I told my parents, I said, if and when I make it to the Major League, I'm start my own foundation. Reason

why I started my own foundation Dave Winfield. I spent more time with Reggie during my career because Reggie worked for the organization, and Reggie used to come around and every time he'd come to the Yankee Stadium, he'd come right to my locker and he'd sit down, said sit down and read what you got for me, and so I'm gonna have to say both. You know I can't pick between the two. Um, it's a shot. But hold on a second, why why why? Just yeah? Everyone? Just

you all the captain. You want to see how powerful you are right now? This in case you want me to fret your power. The captain said, take a shot. Ain't. No one here knows. Ain't nobody. Were all excited by the way. We're all excited. We all we feel my show late at night, but we we said, were on your time. I appreciate we all appreciated. I will be tonight by about three theories. That's good. That's that's that's a good time to me. Mickey mantew or Joe di Maggio, Man, Like,

why do we even answer? OK, let's take the shot man for ten minutes. So I'm gonna tell you something. Joe DiMaggio used to come to Yankee Old Timer's Day and I never spoke to him. I never spoke to him. Now, I was scared to death, you know what I mean. I was scared to death. I didn't want to I'm always I don't want to bother people, you know what I mean? I don't want to get in their space.

So he he was intimidated by him. Mickey Mantel passed um a few years prior to so you know, I didn't know Mickey at all, but um Joe dimagi I was afraid to speak to Okay, I'm gonna stop of that. Okay, and you got using you Jo, you cheap? No I needed it. This is wicked do whatever or nas oh man damn? I like this? Yeah, man, come on now right man, the biggest resident. You gotta take both. I you know I know um Ja a little bit better because I had more interactions with Jane. Yeah, and he

used to come to more games. You know what I mean? Um, I mean when when when it comes you say, and they get bread sticks? Right there were drinking m he said both yea remember that? So um But let me ask that famous line jay Z said. He said he would Yankee had more famous than the Yankee King, more famous than they. I don't necessarily agree with that. I don't necessarily agree that. I don't necessarily agree that. I appreciate it. But but it was a hard line. Yes,

it was. It was. It was I like the line I do um, Let me get through this, and then I didn't want to own you got more? Yeah, we just only a couple more, just more, no, no, no, nothing explaining about I'm gonna skip that one. I'm gonna go because I don't know, Damn, I don't know one Roger Clemens or Andy and oh man, you know I would say, yeah, you know, I gotta go with Andy because I played with Andy since I was eighteen years

Here's here's a fact for you. But so I'm gonna get to rocket in a minute, So um, thank me. Andy Pettitt, Mariano Rivera and j Posodic called the Core four. Now they leave Bernie Williams out of it. And the only reason why they don't mention Bernie is because Bernie wasn't there in two thousand nine when we won our fifth championship. That's when the nickname came the Core for so everyone's like Bernie should have been a part of

the court. Wey. Anytime you talk to any of us, the first person we mentioned is Bernie Williams, right, because um, you know, we wouldn't have got a chance without Bernie. So Andy pettit was an idiot, and he left and went to Houston for a couple of years and he came back myself. Mariano and Jorge are the only three athletes in any of the professional sports to play seventeen years together. Wow, it would have been four of us,

like it's those three. So so Andy I knows his eighteen I gotta pick Andy just because I'm done with you guys, with this whole game. But Roger Clemens, Yeah, I can't hear now, Roger Clemmens. I hated Roger Clemens when I played against him. Hate him. Used to hit me all the time. You try to intimidate you. You go to All Star Games. You wouldn't speak to hitters. Play with Roger Clemens. He's one of the best teammates

you'll have. Yes, yes, yes, yes, So you know I love Rocket, Um, but I picked Andy on history by far fire to kill O'Neil or Kareem abdul Jabbar. Man? What are we doing here? Man? How does how does this end up? For most people? They keep drinking this? This is how we get them. I love like, I really do. I love Shack. Um. I've met um, Kareem as well. Couldn't have been better both of them. Um. You know, Kareem go down is one of the top two three, I mean the one to three, four or

five on MJ's one. But you know, and and shock too, so I both I gotta continue, I gotta keep relationships because I'll be skipping doing the rest of this. I'm gonna just end it with the last one is the last one for the Quick Time of Slim. Everyone thinks it's a trick question. Me and E F And don't think it's a true question. We think it's the most easiest question. I think that's what you think too, where I think, yeah, yeah, it's a no brainer. Loyalty or respect.

Loyalty because I think if you're loyal, you gained respect from people to loyalty. So because one of my favorite moments is when the your parents is in the stadium and then you look at them and then that was your nephew there was and he has so much swag. He like everyone know it's it's it's funny because it's you know, that whole my whole last game I played in Yankee Stadium and um I played for parts of twenty seasons and um I only played one game in

Yankee Stadium that didn't count. One game where we're eliminated only one. Every other game we were still in playoff contention or we're getting ready to go to the playoffs. The only game I played we're eliminated was the last game I played in Yankee Stadium. And you know, everyone talks about, oh, it was all set up right, you know, David Robinson is supposed to give up to home runs so you can come up and get a walk off hit and your nephews him in his cap, Like it

wasn't planning. This is not a movie. It wasn't like we practiced it, yeah, exactly. So it's just everything just sort of just lined up. And people say, you know, what's your favorite game that you played and obviously talked about when you win championships. But that's the freshest in my mind, you know, because the last game I played

Yankees Staum and it didn't count. It didn't mean anything for the Yankees as an organization, but it meant something for Yankee fans and for me because we grew up together. And and it's kind of embarrassing to say it's the only one didn't count, but it counted for me. Now, I ain't gonna lie. I'm forty five years old. My father is uh, God bless he passed away. Hard baseball fan, that hard Yankee fan. He was actually uh from Puerto Rico, then moved to harm and then he moved to Queens.

But and I have never seen the respectful baseball player like I've never seen. If you ever if you said that New York has ever like turned on you, well, like I've never seen I've never seen somebody with so much love. Do you know? Do you know like you're one of the most beloved baseball most were playing up all time, but definitely one of the most loved Yankees the all time. Like people use you as an example. Do you know that I know that, I know that

we talked about it before. I know that they appreciate players that come to work every day. You have come to work every day, man, And you can't make excuses. New Yorkers don't want to hear excuses. You know. It's like I've said it before, when you know you have sometimes you have athletes and and um, I say it respectfully, but you know they're playing a game. They're saying, I'm eight percent fun is eight percent? Man? You either player,

you don't I don't want to hear about them. You play the game or you don't, and if you do well or you do poorly, you stand in front of your locker and you answer questions and you don't use things as an excuse. There's no built in excuses in New York. You can't fool New Yorkers, man, And you can't. You can't for a short period of time. But they're

gonna figure you out. And I think if you know, I was there for twenty years, and um, they would have figured me out if I was if I was someone other than you know, people always say, oh, oh, you have a great image. It's an image, right, you know, it's no image, it's character characters who you are, image who you want everyone else to see you as, right right, I don't care what my images with you. I want to have a good character, you know what I'm saying.

And I think New Yorkers appreciate that. And um man, I I say the same thing about them. New Yorkers are they're they're they're very clear with what their expectations are. You know they are. What was Mike good in basketball? Yes? And I'm gonna tell you something, um like, because you know, look a lot of people laugh, Oh, Michael was this, Michael was at Michael Jordan played basketball, I mean played baseball in little league, and then the next time he

played he's playing in double A baseball. Now, when you played in the minor leagues, once you get to double A, the biggest jump, right, I just wanted for everyone listening. You know, you have rookie ball, you have low A, you have high A, you have double A, you have triple A. Then you get to the major leagues. Once you get to double A, the biggest jump is from A to double A. If you can play in double

A baseball, you can play in the major leagues. Right, At some point you can play in the major league. He went from little league to double A and hit two hundred, right, which everyone's like, oh, he hit two hundreds, and that's not easy to do. A lot of people feel the real lives cap that baseball is a game of failures. Yes, yes, like a great achievement, but that's three hundred out of a thousand. Yeah. I hit my first year, I was mentioned the high school player of

the year. I went to rookie ball, hit two O two two O two and had a great two weeks. I was hot the last two weeks to get just over to two. So it's it's it's tough to do, and people just think you you watch something on television and because you're great at one sport, it should translate into another. Doesn't happen like that. So Michael was a lot better than people give him credit for. And if he played longer, I think he would have just continue to improve. That last game that you had, it seems

like you was fighting back tears the whole time. It was yeah, yeah, because because you know, one thing that we know about everybody that's great, the announced the retirement like two or three times and then they never really retired. But did you know that that was really gonna be a last game? Yeah? Yeah. Before the season I knew, you know, I wanted to everyone said, oh, why did

you say this is gonna be your last year? Because I knew If I didn't say it was gonna be the last year, I would have been asked the question every series, every serious is this your last year? Is your last year? And I always said, um, I'm playing a sport for a career. If it's not fun and if it feels like it's a job, I'm done. I broke my ankle twice. It was a lot of rehab and now it finally became it felt like it was a job. So I was like, man, I'm done. This

is my last year. I have not throwing a baseball or swung a bat since I retired, with an exception of throwing off the first pitch twice. I was done. Man, so right now if he won't play one on one and stickball? Yeah, so did you purposely wait to have children? So after part of the documentary, So so, first of all, what's by the way, I love the document you did. Thank you, thank you, thank you. UM purposely waited? I

didn't meet the right woman right to the camera. But but but look, let me, I'll be honest with you in terms of UM, I've always had UM a great deal of admiration and somewhat I don't want to say jealousy, because you know you're not jealous of other people. UM, but people brought they brought their kids in the clubhouse on the field. But I just knew that I was way too selfish during my career, way too selfish. It was all about me and it wouldn't have been fair

to my significant other or kids. The great the greatest thing I can say about my parents, as they were always present and everything I did me and my sister, they were present. They were there, and I always wanted to be there for my kids as well. So, Um, I wouldn't say purposely I didn't read meet the right person. Um, but I knew that for me. In order you say the right it's got to be the right time for you. It has to also be the right time for your

significant other. And thank god I met my wife when I did towards the end of my career. You're a girl, dad, I am yeah. I got, yeah, I got, I got, I got. Don't clap pray for me. I got three of them. Man, five three and a half and ten months. I need to notice. Tell us how you felt a three thousand with the Home Run? Um well, I toldly everyone was gonna hit home Run movie that movie stuff. Yeah, well, I told everyone I was gonna do it. I'm just spreading,

I'm just playing. You know what the thing is is, I struggled. I always struggled when it was all about me, which is why I struggled. I in my mind, why I struggled my last year because it's all about everything. Unfortunately, it was all about me and answering questions, not about the team. It was strictly on me. So um. Leading up to three thousand hits, I struggled bad, you know,

and I got hurt. Um. All I wanted was when I got my three thousand hit, I wanted to be a clean hit because it's gonna be showed over and stadium. I wanted to do it at Yankee Stadium. Put a lot of pressure on myself to do it at Yankee Stadium and show up. Do you talk to Aaron right now because he's chasing he's chasing the sixty two? Because not direct because a similar thing. I just say, not directly, because I think a lot of times you have everyone

in your ear and there's too much noise. Everyone has an opinion. Um, So I think sometimes you just gotta remove yourself from all the noise and just do what you continue to do. Yeah, so let's let's talk about the three thousand for a second, because no picture actually wants to be the person you hit over. What was that? Ever? A discrepancy was people were like purposely walking you know, I wouldn't you know, I wouldn't necessarily say that, because, um,

you can't. It's tough to walk someone over and over and over and over again. Look, you talk about Aaron's hitting home runs. Man, that's different than getting hits, right, you know, it's completely different. Um, So I wouldn't say I I looked at it as people were trying to pitch around me. I wouldn't say that you didn't think you didn't think they was that golic bread goddamnit be needed. Yeah, so y'all have to thank you. Okay, this is great, this is great. I got mad notes though, because you

got seven parts of this beautiful documentary. And again I really really appreciate like you holding down my city like it was crazy because some of the best years in hip hop because when the Yankees the Yankee and you, you're going but you know what, there was the rise of New York. It was thinking about it all happened at the same time, you know, so it's we're all connected. Yeah, no, no,

that's that's crazy. Oh man, Okay, okay, damn did he Oh did he named you the prince because he said that evidently it was calling you the king of New Yorker. Did he say that's the rum? Yeah? Your documentary. Yeah it is, yeah it is. But you know, look, did you hang out with Big I didn't. No, no, never, no, never never met him. No, that's right before I got there. How about punt No Joe, Yeah, but not punt no. Yeah, I didn't know that. Holy ship. Okay, so down to

in the nineties World Series? How do how do how do this is against Boston again? Atlanta? Atlanta. Describe what was going on at that moment um the way I always looked at sports, right, Baseball, actually, anything? Every single day, do you have an opportunity to win a game? I treated a spring training game the exact same as seventh

game of World Series. So once you get into that situation, right, So we had lost two games and it was like, okay, win game three, win game three, win game four, and then we won four in a row to win the World Series. So I just don't think. I think sometimes you know, my my biggest thing in in in life that makes me most uncomfortable as being unprepared. And that's in anything. If you're unprepared. You hear athletes talk about game speeds up, slows down. What slows down when you're prepared?

Speeds up when you're unprepared. Right, so every time you're in a situation, I've already gone through it in my head. And if you have the same approach to a spring training game as you do a World Series game, nothing changes. That's that's amazing, by the way. But the Baltimore fight, you remember, we've been and we we we've gone from two to ninety eight. Are the Baltimore fight? Okay, you moved straw? They were straw? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well the

Yankees bullies. No, we weren't bullies, but you couldn't bully us, right right, I think it's the best way to put it right now. We were we were, we were bullies. It's the Yanes for that is the block some bullies. Yeah, because I mean, I'm gonna tell you something that hit me in the documentary, right And it was the only time I was like because I didn't think that you

whatever go through something like this. I remember me meeting with Leo comes and Leo cons I had a contract with him, and Leo Colins told me, I said, I got more money offer over here, and Leo Colon said, but this is defa you're gonna sell more with me, So I don't care who gives you another offer? The Yankees of this ship, and I didn't know. I didn't know Death Jam was biting off of the Yankees. So when I actually said that, they was like, oh and

then that was their explanation. You with the Yankees, bitch? So I said, oh, Ship, you real talk? So I said, oh, Ship. So it's like, damn, they almost make you pay less to be with the winning team. Makes sense though, And because I remember me seeing that and and they saying to you, well, go ahead, you go shop, shop shop. I remember that. I think I think I single handedly

seen your face expressions. I've seen you change from that moment because I felt like he was loyal to our organization and then that organization was just business wise to you. Did you feel like that at that time? Well, first of all, let me let me let me preface it with I'm gonna just give you my thoughts of during

the time. During the time, because now being in another another side of it, everyone just want to say, you know you on the other side, I look at us another side of the sport, right, Um, So I understand why certain decisions are made during the time. Like I said in the documentary, when I was a free agent. I was only free agent once in my career, and right when I World Series over, you could be a

free agent. I went and met with our owner and GM team president, my agent, and I said, look, verbatim, I'm not going anywhere. Not go anywhere, I said. I told my agent, I probably shouldn't do this in negotiations, but I told my agent, if any other team calls, tell them I'm not interested, treat me fairly, don't make it public. The only thing I asked, and then they made it public, was that the kids. Was that the boss, No, that was front office? Was the both still around at

that time? No? No, well here, yeah. I actually when I saw that, I was like, because it was zimbled something that I had just went through, and I was like, I didn't do And I was like, damn, this New York is the Yankees is definitely I was like, damn they actually they actually it's foul. But but because you know, it was your business, you know, I get it's a business man, but it's a business. But but um, you know you're always here in sports yet But no, no, no,

I wasn't going anywhere. I said, I wasn't going anywhere. I tell you're not going anywhere. Um. But but you know, it goes back to like I said in the documentary Loyalty One way, stupidity exactly. You know what I mean. Um you know, look, I'm gonna just show you in my notes Loyalty one it's stupid. Yeah. So it's it's I told him I wasn't going anywhere. I wasn't gonna go anywhere regardless of what happened. Right, I'm beyond that. Like I said before, we're talking about other situations. I'm

that that's no friction whatsoever. I understand there's there's different sizes of the business. I really do. I get that now, even more so than when I played. Did you get that more that your owner when you became an owner, that you understand their position or understand you know, as a player, it's it's it's right now. It's always right now. When you're talking about ownership, front office, you're thinking three, four or five, six, seven years down the road. You

have to take that in consideration. As an athlete, it's like, this is who I am today, this is who I'm going to be next year. That's what I'm gonna be ten years. May you never think you're gonna go the other direction, and you never think your organization is not going to appreciate you to the extent. Like like like when I when I heard that story, I was just like because I didn't remember, Like I was like, no,

there's no way that that happened. And then I'm sitting back sitting but I was like, yeah, this is actually happened. But I think, you know, at the time, you think, oh, maybe they're not they don't appreciate you, But now it wasn't a they don't appreciate I think. I never I never thought that they I shouldn't they never thought. I don't think now that they didn't appreciate me. They always appreciated me. But it was a business decision. Yeah, that's crazy.

As as much as you can be loyal to an organization and give them your loyalty, it's still something that can that's in life though it's not just organization. Yeah, yeah, you're right, it's oh man, like I ain't gonna lie that. That was a deep me watching that because I'm like, damn, I went through it. I just had somebody to sit down with me and tell me that you had you are here this is where you at. You can't and guess what, just like you, I stayed with them. Look

at you, Leo Cole. I'm gonna be honest with you. You were right. He was right, he was right. I sold more records with him, They put me on tour, they did me everything that they did. But at the time, I felt unappreciated that. I felt like, wait, if they're gonna if somebody else's is offered me this over here, why y'all y'all, and I already made you blaques, I already made you. He was telling you was that was the equivalent of you playing for the Yeah, they have people.

I come at you. I'm not going I didn't say nothing. He didn't say that. I'm saying that. I'm gonna taking me a little piece of gold bread. I'm throwing that out there, you know, so what you're laughing at me? Definitely? But wait, But just like the music business changed, as the game change in your eyes, since you play, oh yeah, yeah, oh man, it's all analytics, you know, it's all you know, analytics have taken over the game. I always think anytime you make a decision, you want to have as much

information as you possibly can. Write right if you if you say no to that, then you're not doing your job. But I also think you can't measure everything, you know, Mr Tory, Joe Tory to always say you can't. You can't measure person's heartbeat. People have heart beats. You can't necessarily just take a player from Milwaukee and plug him into New York and think the same thing's gonna happen. There's more pressures, you know, you have to get to

know people, and so analytics can't measure everything. And think the game has gotten very very analytical. What's your favorite moment as a Yankee? Two thousand nine? Every time? Seriously, every time you win, every time you win? What's it? Ready? That's a lot of favorite time. I ain't got a lot of you, man. You're a class act man. Thank you.

They don't make many people like you. Um. I remember me talking to Mike Tyson and Mike Tyson saying, and I say, Mike Tyson, you're one of the great and Mike Tyson said, please don't call me a great And I said why in Tyson said, because most great people aren't good people. And it fucked me up. But I'm telling you to your face man and man, you're a great person. That's appreciate that man, Thank you, you with you. Um, you're a very honorable, respectful person and you're very humble.

But we're gonna be cocky for you. But you deserve your flowers. You deserve everything. UM. I really like, like, like I said, I watched that community three times. I had to go back because, like I said, did I say her name earlier? The one who makes a shot town? And then she says she cried, So I wanted to

figure out where she cried. And I figured out why she cried, even if it was because she was a white Sox fan or she was whatever, it's because she got to witness one of the greatest players of all time be the greatest. Thank you humble, I know that. But UM, that's where we is. That's why we're so excited about this interview. UM, that's why we were so

excited to be here. Every individual here we were seriously like coming like it was like and and and like like we were saying, like you like a mafia boss, like it was like that, and we want to give your flowers to your face because you truly indeed deserve it. You're truly indeed an icon, your legend, and you hold yourself as such. And we appreciative you are and what you're doing. And we're gonna wear the greatness all yes, yes, yes, hell yeah, we we we love it. That's what we think.

And you know we're at the legendary famous car Bones, one of my favorite restaurants in the world. I know they got my credit card on five. I just wanted to give you your flowers because because you since still that you ain't had to do this. You could have did anything you do. You you've been wanting to do in the world, but you do you can't. You here

with us, and this means a lot. We get body here to everyone, you know, people flying in over there like this guy's me crazy, Yes, really big, he flew. I made cool of me. Yeah, I don't know if it's gonna have I said, Yo, that's the captain. You gotta days. I'm not cool him, he said. I don't give a fuck, he said, I don't care if they if you want to him, and why I play like great of it just on the screen as it going and you can't even here him. He's the captain. You

have to go with it. And I said I did, and listen, we are appreciate it. Yes we did. Yes, we are appreciated because this means the world to us. Man, You're you're really honorable. God, thank you really one of those the greats. That is a great. Thanks for having me. It can't be six more years before you had me back now, yeah, no, no, no, any time you want to promote anything, whatever you want to promote, I ain't

gonna lie. Yeah, you't gonna hit this calling Brad, Yeah, I'm wanna you know this is red Ryan going down like guy, ain't gonna right. Here's wicked. Are you a food I am? This is this is my favorite restaurant New York and obviously down here and I've seen he was as well. Yes, so we called bone Let's yea food group? Yeah yeah yeah. One thing about you that is remarkable. I'm looking at the old footage. You never really had security. Now why not? Because the talent protected you? No,

I just died, man. It's just I think it draws attention to you. Man, that your man. I just I came here about myself. Nobody here with me. You know, I know I got you, I know I got you. I just never had it, but other baseball players have security. Yeah, maybe, yeah, was there any point that so you never like felt threaten that No point, Like even in Boston, I say in my room a lot. I gotta know when you're

moving around and when you should stay home. One of my close friends of my his name is city boy D. He's from Boston. And the minute I said said, yo, we got Derrek g on drink chance, he was like yo, I didn't even know, but I just grew up. Hey here he's like you now, I feel like he's the coolest guy in the world. But at one point it was being so much that it couldn't have been safe for you going. And we're talking about generational fans like you learned you grow up. You hate the Yankees man

but for no reason. Yeah, you just hate him New York, you hate Boston. It's just I don't think that ever is gonna change. God, holy boy, I ain't gonna lie. I got more questions, but come back, I feel like, yeah, because that Yeah, before we go, Cap, who was going through your mom the shuffle shuffle out the home plate. You know you're talking about we're talking about being prepared. That was where I was supposed to be. I was supposed to throw at third base and not supposed to

But I said it before. You know, I've joked about it before about John b family not being so fat. Jeremy unfortunately passed away recently. Um yeah, but but you know, you're taking into consideration everything that's going on. So I knew we had a chance to get them. So it's just one of those plays that he won't see it happen again. Everything aligned, you know, I don't I don't think you don't know what I'm talking about. No, I definitely don't what it was interesting. Okay, Okay, that's the

documentary too. Yeah it works, it works. Oh yeah, that's in the documentary. So definitely in the document I ain't live. I love it. I would say the people, I'm like this, why did you get your life together? People? Listen? Listen because it's so much like even with the Non eleven part. Yeah, like I didn't realize how much my city got put put together and how much it was important for the

Yankees after No. Eleven, you know what I mean, Like, um, that's what you got missing November from Yeah, and we didn't know at the time what you look at what we're playing a game. Man, game is a mean thing, but it did. Yeah, I did. You know if you're getting people something to cheer for for a few hours a day, man, when they really had nothing to cheer for, and that's that's that's that's that's what's crazy. Um. We

were just talking before we walked in. I had a bunch of my Miami boys and I had a bunch of you know, New York boys. We were just all sitting there and it was like it was big for New York and I was like no. That moment was like I think they I think they say the Dallas Cowboys is like America's team, but the Yankees is really America's team. Like I'm been the duce with off Germany. I've been to you know, Yugoslavia. I've been to uh Russia where people would have a hat on and I

would ask him. I would ask him, you you're wearing that because of jay Z. They're like, no, I'm wearing this because I'm a Yankee fan. In Russia, we saw I'm like, yo, you from Germany. They're like they're looking at me, like that's racist. Like I can be from Germany and be a Yankee fan, and I was like,

holy shit. That's when you know when you when you travel abroad and you're like, wow, this is not because like someone said earlier, they was like it's a New York thing, and I was like, no, I witnessed this like I've been all over the world where they're wearing a Yankee fan yank excuse me, a Yankee hat and they're like, I'm a Yankee fan. You're thinking like they got it through hip hop, but now so um it's a symbol. Yeah, definitely, definitely, definitely is. Man, it definitely is.

I'm drinking all of that. Nobody offered me something. Yeah, I'm I'm a man, I'm in m It looks like you didn't take that shot, sir. Come on for the Bronx, that Bronx, for the Bronx. Take your shot. Holy sort you got anything? Well? I mean yeah, definitely. Yeah. I want to say, d you know, I follow you, you know, as far as an athlete because I wasn't a Yankee fan. Yeah he's Miami. Let's be clear. I went from New Jersey as such as yourself, you were going to impact

when not townships. I want to say, I want to claim you as a Jersey person. But even though you went to Michigan. But for for me, I like what athletes do after their season, after their career, when they turned to the community and turned to foundations. It sounded really big. You mentioned it earlier, but I want you to emphasize on how you that became something important to you. Yeah, we started. Um. I was talking about Dave Winfield to my parents the one I made it, I want to

start my own foundation. My dad was drugging alcohol use counselor so in Detroit in a hotel room in Detroit, having pizza, and I told my dad, look, I want to start my own foundation, and like anything throughout my life, they said, if you're serious about it, will support you. And I said, yeah, I'm serious about it and I want you to help me run it. So my dad

quit his private practice. We started the foundation. It's it's it's based in West Michigan area where I grew up, New York area obviously where I used to work and down in Florida, and to promote healthy lifestyles academic excellence. We are. One of our signature programs is our leadership programs called Jeter's Leaders or Kids who are who are role models not only in their schools but in their community.

And and and we promote social change. And we want our kids to realize that there voices are powerful at a young age and when they get older, they're gonna be very comfortable using those voices. We've given back north of thirty five million dollars is now in UM the twenties six year and UM couldn't be more proud of it. We've had a lot of support from the communities, UM, a lot of my partners, you know, throughout my career, every marketing deal I did, they had to give to

my foundation. UM. And I think people talk about legacy. Everyone wants to have a legacy for their career, but I think the most important legacy you can leave is what you do to impact other people's lives. And UM, It's always been important to me and my family and we're going to continue doing that. So thanks for asking. I appreciate it. Year, I got you got you got got, I got you know my notes and Mr leg just se text me what about his watch that the Daytona

roles Go is a gift from my wife. Man let me see the yes yes stays on the rose Gold, black face, Yese, don't miss anything around here. Uh yeah, text to me that Oh god, holy molylacka moles. I mean, and I actually had the ninety six the Joe, the Joe Torre era, and we spoke about that earlier. That's not that's not the same steroids era. That's different area.

I'm question trusting Derek. I got tell you, my lifelong Yankee fan, I felt bad for for the hit Manny when he retired and you guys wanted the next season. Did you feel the way did you feel like, damn, we should have been here for this? Um? We learned

a lot from Donnie. You know, Donnie played a longer, never went to the postseason except that our first our first year coming up, and he had the Microsoft most and then, uh, you know, I learned a lot from Donnie and how you carry yourself, you know, how you play the game, how you're professional and um, yeah, so you feel bad, you know, it just goes to show you. I mean, you got to be in the right place at the right time to Yeah. Yeah, did you hire him or work with him? He was here, Yeah, the

manager here in Miami. Um, when we got here, and you know, so my entire time here as the manager, and you went zero in five and you first major league game over five. Yeah, I thought they were gonna send me down after one game. I did my twenty year career. Every time I took the field, I thought I was playing to keep my job every time. That's crazy. I knew every time we dropped to the short stop, I knew what they were doing and always felt as though I was trying to keep my job. So you should.

You never get comfortable. She never get comfortable. The a raw thing had to like, I know he's spoken earlier, but he was a shortstop and then for the Yankees acquiring him, did he downgrade to take third base or that was a decision that y'all guys came up with. It wasn't a part of the decision making process, you know, um, But that was the agreement before he came, prior to him coming that he's gonna play third he'say, and you

were cool with that. Keep it real, I'm not, but back then yeah, yeah, no, I mean no, I mean it's gonna help us win. Like, ultimately, I don't care what your feelings are about any particular person you play with. If you're there to win. I have no problems with you, none whatsoever. It helped us. Yeah, yeah, that you played with that didn't like personally, but you still of course a lot of them. Man, there's a lot of personalities. Man,

there's there's egos. There's the only issue I had with people if I felt this though, the winning wasn't their number one priority. If that's not your number one priority, I have a problem with you. I'll tell you I have a problem. I don't have to do it publicly. I can do it privately. I can do it one on one. You know, one thing I've said it before. Athletes know when the cameras are all you gotta do is look for the red light. You know which cameras on you at all times. You play long enough, you

know where they're coming from. So all you gotta do is look. And then you see a lot of times they'll go over. Athletes to go over and they'll start talking to a particular teammate. They know the camera's on them. I didn't give a damn about a camera. I can pull you aside and talk to you individually. You know, there's different ways. You didn't deal with personalities. You talk about leadership. You gotta get to know the people you're leading, you know, I said that, man, some people you yelling,

scream at you get the best out of them. Are the guys you gotta give him a hug. Right, You can't yell at certain people in a big group ever get the best out of him, right, you know you gotta pull him aside. So I you know, just you gotta you gotta get to know people, man, you really do have to get to know people. Read something. You thought you thought you was in trouble with the boss when he made you the captain. Yeah, yeah, I was. Every every off season I'd meet with the boss. Right.

We lived in Tampa. He told me the same thing, I need to lead the team. And he said, you know, I don't want to hear about you being at a birthday party till four o'clock in the morning. Right, I don't know about you, but you have one birthday party a year, that's right. Nothing different. Because he had said that same thing to the media. So I lived in Tampa. I worked out the complex every offseason. I'm leaving a complex and in a particular reporter asked me, are you

doing anything different this year? Absolutely? Not got here in November, a couple of weeks after the season, working out getting ready for the season. They turned that into the headline was party on. So I refused to change my party in ways to please the boss. So I met with the Boss. We got into it, going back and forth. I'm telling, like I told you before, he would test his players. So yeah, I say, look, man, you started this, you gotta fix it. He's yelling at me. We're going

back and forth. We didn't speak for a few weeks. I dislocated my shoulder. I was in Tampa and the I'm working out to rehab. That's when we filmed this visa commercial with me and the Boss going through a conga line in their love and then I went back to New York. Eight weeks later. It was Hideki Matt Suey's first year player, coming from Japan. He lived in my building. We had the next day off. I invite all my teammates over for dinner. We go out to a club of New York. Next day, I'm on the

front page of the paper. It says it's four am and Derek's out in the picture. Now in the article doesn't mention any of the twelve teammates, but I was with It was just me get a phone call saying, the boss wants to speak to you. Damn, I'm in trouble. And that's when he named me the captain. So he's probably like, this guy just doesn't give a ship what I say. He's gonna do whatever he wants. So yeah, that's when he named me. But it worked out. I

thought I was in trouble. Yeah, it worked the funk out. Oh ship, this has got so great ship any future plans to own another team? Ship, you got some money for me. It looked like you didn't enjoy you. You know what it felt like to me, Um, when you became the owner. It's like, you know, you ever see the people that's on the sidelines and they were like, oh yeah yo, and then they actually get to play in the game, and they felt like once you be tasted some ownership, I felt like you didn't like it.

I'm outside of looking it. Look I enjoyed building a team. I did. I enjoyed building. I didn't enjoy losing. You know, I never played on a team that had a losing record. In twenty years. We never lost. I shouldn't say we never lost. We never had a losing record. Um so we lost quite a bit here in a few years. But you're gonna have everyone on the same page, man, I guess it's the best way to put. Everyone's got to be on the same page. If not, it's just

not gonna work. So no, I don't. I don't see myself. You didn't know you didn't like ownership. I didn't like how it ended up. Did you have some of the balls in you as owner? I in terms of expectations, Yeah, but I gave the players their space, you know. I gave them that's your space, you know, because I knew as a player, you don't want to see members of the front office in the clubhouse. Get out of here. How do you say, get out of here? You're not

supposed to be here. Um so I gave him their space. So so you understood the beef that you had with George back? Did Did it make you understood that more if you're you came to owner. Yeah, but I wouldn't necessarily say we had beef because we had the same mindset from right. So so I didn't have any issues with him, Like I said, my only issues during my career and still to this day. If people don't expect excellence, right, and you're not willing to do what it takes to

be successful, right, I have a problem with you. Um if that's not the case, I really do taking a shot for that for no reason. Where is this the rock guy? Goddamn it? Oh you got Oh my god? Okay, we all here. Paula John sees a salad. You know, Jared Jared calls working at Carbone playing like, yeah, if you're nobody gonna clap on your back when you had a home run, because that's the expect it's supposed to. Hello, is that bad or good thing? That's a good things?

You don't want people to expect you to be to be a failure. It's crazy because we we just we just had Kevin hart Shack and now we got the captain and no one has called me and said, good job. Ain't coming off a win and we just wanted to be to awarding. By the way, you're talking to award winners. First I felt that I was like, damn, no one called me to congratulate me. But then I said, let me look at it the bright side. They expect that from me or right, you want to that that together together,

that's where you keep Yeah. Yeah he was he was born no choice, Yeah, his parents failure. What shot? Did I know for that brief time where they said, um, go shop you deal shot shot? Did you did you? Did you think that? After that? I was told to you because I know you said prior to to them, you didn't want to negotiate with any other team. But after they said to you, well go go go shop ship. Was there any team that did reach out to you? I don't know. I didn't want to. I don't want

to know loyal like you really didn't you? So you you told your agent because I'm sure with Milwokee, I don't know. I really don't. I don't know if anyone was interested. I really don't know. I don't want to hear about it. So they oh, I'm taking shot for you ave yo. That's the real cameras off. Oh my god, So a little bit. This is to you loyalty, realness and happiness. I see you happy, pick up, to your

lovely wife, your children. Um, every time I see you out and about you with them, I'm usually with my wife too. She has something to do, but she wants to be here. Big dry Fair big Yankee fan. Her father. She didn't have no choice her father forster to being a Yankee fan. So um, so to you, my brother, thanks for having Thank you everyone take the picture. Yeah, because not for real, you didn't have to do this. So coming down tonight it really it really boosting my morale.

You're making me a better leader, You're making me the captain. Can you say? I'm the captain? All right? Everyone's a captain of their own ship. The oldest, my oldest, my five year old, told me the other day, so, Daddy, I'm the captain and that I don't talk to her about it. Someone who We went out to get coffee and like, and it's just me and her, so I I try to take each one of them by them

so they love to be by themselves. So we're sitting outside having coffee and spand of like five minutes three people went by, what's up, cap with's up? Captain and captain And she's like, dadny, why are they calling you

the captain. I tried to explain it to her, and then later in the day to daddy, I'm the captain, captain, and I see you right, it's right, drop me good take you so much again, thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs, hosted by yours truly, d j e f F and n O r E. Please

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