Episode 338 w/ Jeezy

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I thought this a mixtape was about to talk about but they said no, this is a full fledged album. Last time we had him on, we thought he was going to depart from his label. But they're here and this is going down. He is constantly. He's a bat Award winner just like us. That's right, nominated for four times the Grammys. But like I said, this is one of the real ones. So we're gonna stand up. We're

gonna salute him at off top ef. We're gonna give him his flower first thing we do first, the first thing we're doing this because then your third time, this is yeah career, they don't like it's better than the granmy t I'm gonna I'm gonna go ahead, pop my champagne to be you know what I'm saying. So jeez, you know I'm going through your photography. Um man, you got hit after hit after hit. You man, you put in a lot of work. Oh but have you ever like came close to your career like people try to

cancel you? Of course? Really yeah all the time, I think this morning didn't happened though I had a lifetime script. It's solid so um but the only the only thing that kept me from getting canceled, you know, even though they couldn't. And that's what the whole camp in the snowman. She came right in the schools. Yeah, I mean it

started there. You was like the first cancel, I forgot that and I didn't even understand that because I was like, damn, how y'all gonna stop people from wearing a T shirt? You know what I mean? So that was confusing. But as I went onto my career, are to realize, like when you make decisions that you know it's gonna better you or your team and the people around you, everybody might not like that, you know what I'm saying. It's

just like is that crabs in the barrel syncerome. It's just like, you know, everybody ain't gonna grease, so it's like, let's cancel them. But see what they didn't know is they put me in the position anyway. The streets put me in the eisence and the streets. We don't cancel people. You just you just expire. Know what I'm saying. You go to the penitentiary or you go into that wooden box. You know what I'm saying. I dodged one, which was a penitentiary. So you know, I mean, you know, Snowman

is a mortal baby. It's like, this is real, this is this is what it's about. You know what I'm saying, I leave by example and and the moves that I make so people like or the so so the real the real ones like you an't gotta live by nobody rules or nobody box you in because that's the standard for them. And people want you to be the old U all the time, so that makes them feel comfortable being we all. You know what I'm saying, because I couldn't sit down and talk to the old nor. He

probably had like five choppers right here. You different dues, So let's this is this is your own Yeah, your name is no. I'm partnering up with some people out of France. Okay, it looked like some friend ship. We got coney jack, we got gin, we got vodka. Yeah, not all the expiracy, y'all give it up for that, y'all. And if y'all didn't know my history when it comes to drinks, so first I had that, I'll be no, but I had a great Goose situation. I had a

great Goose. Yeah, I had to deal with great Goose and I peeped the earl's Like, so, y'all want to give me a little money to go out here and push your brand, but it's not mine, you know what I'm saying. And where I come from, it's like that's like somebody give me, someone can sign me. That's not mine,

you know what I'm saying. So I wanted my own brand and when I when I got out of that deal, I want to sat down with my my my business partner, which one of my mentors, and we built Avian up and Solda to panoa card and I got your face. So yeah, but it happened because I was like, oh no about this rap ship um, but it talking me because he went on to do uh Terramundo with The Rock okay and Proper Thirdteam with Connor McGregor, and I want on to do this with what I learned from him.

So it's just like if you come from while I'm from, it's like having the whole damn Lioker Stoke, you know what I'm saying. You know what I mean? Like you got gin Cone Yak and vodka like you know, so yeah, good, good, good move dogged in the Proper Thirteam. You ever tasted that it's horrible, Yes, it's horrible. It's horrible. Whiskey a Japanese whiskey guy. So I don't really like Scot the

old Nory went drange. Yeah, yeah, I said. So I'm listening to the Preface Club, I believe yesterday and it wasn't today, yesterday, I think it was yesterday and Freddy Gibbs come on and then they say something, they say, uh, you know, uh, this is the first time you'll see each other. I think you've seed each other in the airport and you got to speak. So how was that was? Was was that something that you wanted to do? I mean, this, this is the thing, bro, I ain't never had no

issue with gids Man, you know what I'm saying. Always knew he was gonna pop, He's gonna be on and what I think about all this in music, we're really ended this ship streating anything and just be a lack of communication. And he was wrong, I think, you know, and I respect that, you know what I'm saying, because I just I didn't understand it. But from where he was coming from, that's how he saw it. But if we communicated, I could have been like, no, Bro, that

ain't that. Ain't that you know what I thought? This is me looking from the outside and that's an inside I'm looking out right. I always thought that. I think that how Ross was at the time. It was like you and Ross was taking shots at each other, right, and it felt like Ross. I felt like me kind of had Ross back, and it felt like maybe Gibbs one of that same thing for you, or you wanted that same thing from games. I think that's where the

communication kind of you know what I mean. I think I think what happened on my end is that you know, I was trying to get him a deal, which I wanted him to have, but I couldn't. So it was a lot of frustration there, you know, right right there, and it's just like I didn't want to hold him up, and I'm like, bro, I don't trying this every weight. And it ain't that you're not gonna get a deal. It just I can't get it. But you've been young, and that it says, you know what I'm saying, like,

because you know what it is. It was really like the hottest thing and I'm gonna be I learned a lot about that too, because I was I was in my own bag, you know what I'm saying. So I was doing things, but I was still trying to keep my career with that too, So I learned a lot from that experience. But I do feel like, you know, if you really got an issue with another grown man, when you see him, you're gonna feel like that. I didn't feel like that, you know what I'm saying. I'm

just like, what up? You know? We it's like, yeah, because we had some good times. It was the miscommunication. By the way, every situation I've ever been in in the streets or music has been a miscommunication or either somebody talking in between people. You know, like if I tell you something, you tell him. By the time they get over there, it's a different, different and he's like, he said what you know what I'm saying, and that ain't even what he said, you know what I'm saying.

So crazy to hear you say that. I'm listening to your music, and then I think you admitted to you being wrong in the Ross Beef like you was just like like that was crazy for for for give us to say that to you. But then I'm listening to your music and I'm like, oh, ship, we kind of went through. I feel again this miscommunication agive miscommunication because again I'm walking down South Beach, you know, leaving the club like three hundred deep. You know, I'm off that

we was drinking eight hundred back Quavo, I'm popping. Remember this video King Malcolm X year coming out of cameo. I'm just talking, you know what I mean, whoever wanted to get it next thing? You know? So you know, man, I'm not going it was an issue. Listen again with no issue though when when I you know, Kelley shout out to call made that right, call me that right. I ain't gonna lie a little bit, but me just hearing y'all together, like listening to y'alls like, damn, I'm

so glad they squashed their beef. That's the thing, like it ain't you know, unless his family or money, ain't no beef. It's just misscommunications. But that's the problem with the coach of the way it is now, like you know, they ready to kill something about nothing. What I'm saying, like ain't no integrity and that you know what I'm saying that we don't win the war as a country several times and and once you've done doing what you gotta do, you still gotta figured out, but you gotta

co exist what I'm saying. So even with the ross thing, I would say like it just took hip hop. You know hip hop because I knew hip hop because he was I was working at his studio and an actually hipop the person in Calip because I trusted Calip. And he was like, y'all just want to get y'all to sit down. But it's just like, you know, it's just like I'm thinking to sit down. It's like me and like fifty of my home, whoever you brave, Like, no,

you gotta sit down, just you and Ross. And he was wanting to do the world Ready record, and um, you'll tell you the irony of that. So CALLI sat us down immediately. You know, you know, if you feel something, if it's an issue, it was like, oh you don't say I was like, no, I ain't you know what I mean. So now we had that, so we chopped

it up. You know what I'm saying. Took I had avion back then, So we took each other's you know, two drinks, swapped them, mount two pictures like show lo right, but then let me tell you the are any of that? So we do the verse. You know what I'm saying. You know, I went Turkey ham on that. But um, he wants to shoot the video. He wants to shoot the video in New Orleans. I think it's like Super

Bowl All Star Game. Why when they sending the treatment, all the video is is us, us in people around us shooting a bunch of real eight k's, but but they got blanks at them. So I'm just like, so you had the video see all the years, but it's a already. So two people who just sat down, like you know what it mean, it was like it was it was tens you feel tense, real tests. But shout

out to Rolls though. Man like even we went on tour and you know, got money together and we and we shared game all the time because all of us are not the same, you know what I'm saying. And everybody got different skills set. You know what I'm saying. He's good in his departments. You know I'm good in mine. You have other people that are good in this and when you able to sit down, chop it up and talk about business and future ship. It's bigger than just music.

That's maturity to right, It's bigger than music. It's it's like, yo, I'm doing this. You know what I'm saying. You know, you know you want to support here you want to get in and vice versa, and I think that's you know, at the end of the day, really what it's about. You know, we gotta gotta have money to live, money survived, money, have fun, guys. So I'll tell you something. I see

you since you came into this game. Last time I seen you, we was in l A. You were literally by yourself and it was like it was the most peaceful I've ever seen you in life, Like you were literally comfortable dolo like you was. You walked in, you had a little bit of uh tequilla, you were chilling. We we had to you shoot the side, we had to drink me, you and Fat Joe, and then it was just you just stayed the whole time just by yourself. Like I want to say, what is it? No, what's

it called? You en? Yeah? I felt like you had a meeting with Phil Jackson. Yeah, and then you came into this party like where's this new jeezy energy? Like like I can feel peace. I don't need to get like I never need a validation. But I think when you stripped the stereo type down and go with what it is being a man first, and I've been on the front line with you know anything I've ever been

involved with. Some people were like Pablo esketball. I was like, yo, chopo on the front line, you know what I'm saying. And once I realized that, you know, when you get them paying for enough lawyers, you know what I'm saying, paying you know, lawsuits and all these different things because somebody around you reacted to done something. You know, these civil suits. You know you you know you're back against the wall, people saying you know soon you're fifty sixty

million dollars. And it just dawned on me, like you don't want to gonna make sure you straight, you know what I'm saying. So I'm gonna take care of me. I don't need to. I don't need to get on the front line for you. That's that's on you now, you know what I'm saying. So for me, I just really roll because I know I know I got there's so much as mean, like I ain't took nothing from nobody,

my man, integrity. You ain't going no hood, no block, I mean from here to you know a lot of them people knew me before wrap on forgetting money and being who I said I was, so they have respect for me. So even if I'm in somebody's city, I'm still good because it ain't no bad energy. Like I'm done something. It took something from you. And then when it comes to you know the other stuff like the rap ship, I don't move like a rapper. I'm moved like a grown ass man. You know what I'm saying,

Like I ain't playing. He feels me like that. That's that. You know, whatever it's gonna be, ain't gon in here, you know what I'm saying. So, but it has to be some type of super growth because I remember me first time seeing you and in Atlanta would be a math all over. I'm it's be a math shirts all over, crazy all over, and like for you to go from that be that comfortable there, and I can see that same comfortability for you by yourself. I mean it's peaceful bro.

Yeah dear with everybody else issues man, because I'm not there yet almost yeah yeah, it's like every three of the sea. Yeah yeah. But I mean I just feel like you just come to a point where you know you're just you're good with you. Man. It's like that's real love, bro, Like you got self love. You don't really need no validation from the outside. I just feel like that, you know what I'm saying. I know I like to do what I like to do. Everybody might

not be into that. You know what, I want to go to a party doll and sip you know, Champagne Na with Nori without it being uncomfortable, Like, yo, who is all this? You know what I'm saying. Your people there and you know fat Joe come around so with an extra And when you get to a certain point of the game and you risk it all like I have, and you don't want to lose it all. You don't even want to play like that anymore because I don't even take you one time you're a party, You're gonna

lose everything you got. I started to um appreciate being lighter during during the pandemic because it would be like you just it's just you and your lady, you and your wife, no choice, You had no tricker to take a test, no Atlantic. Yeah, Miami got wild. I'm gonna be honest. Atlanta is loose like Atlanta. Listen to me. I love Atlanta. We just came and we just won awarded congratulations. Yes, so man, uh, you know, moving around because let's gonna get the quicktim of slime, right, Okay,

we gonna get the quick time. Okay, so we because because GZ been on twice, but we didn't have I don't think we didn't have we didn't have quick Can you explain the rules on the event. So we're gonna give you two names, two things. You pick one, and we're good. You picked both or neither the political correct question. If you pick something, you're good good if you say both or neither of them, meaning you opt out of even answering. And we all drinking, but we drink with you.

We don't. We don't leave out. We're all drinking. Yeah, yeah, we drink. We drink. What you do? What's it called to getting? No? No, I ain't gonna lie. No, it's out hall, it's all. It's not like something you drink four m in Paris. You have some crapes. You know what I'm saying. You pour it on your crepes? Are you ready? Are you ready? You ready? Okay? Tupac or d MX Tupac. Oh, that was easy? Okay? Jay z or nas jay okay. Dungeon family or Woultan clans always

gonna left. You can never catch Atlanta with that question, Shorty Red or drummer board Shorty Red, we might not take shots serious, okay, outcast or you g k g k okay, let's respect that young dog or future future, little baby or Gunna little baby, no limit or cash money, cash money baby, Magic City or Blue Frame Magic City. Man, what're you're talking about? Take a shot anyway? He get? Yeah, Oh you're taking a shot with y'all. Ain't skipping me. We went to the Magic City. I can't throw the

money correctly. I mean, like my ship I saw. I know, I'm in New York, Old School New York. Yeah, I was throwing a lot, but it was just taking. Everyone was looking at me work. Even my wife was like, come on, get your life. You gotta flick the risk a certain Yeah, it just wasn't working for me. That you're gonna give. You're gonna get somebody a concussion if you met him in Yes, I wasn't ready for a concussion at the Reckless round. Are getting cool? Cool? Cool?

Were we're drinking? Okay? Ze Tobin or Metro booming uh, Metro woman, Metrial Woman, Blue Jack City or Minister Society, Jack City. I'm about getting money okay, okay, yeah, that's right because society was okay, all right, A T L. Jacob or eight oh eight Mafia, A T L Jacob, DJ Collet or DJ Drama, DJ Drama. I got a mixtape coming right now, mixtape coming. He's making this quick time for real. Yeah yeah, when I got so so deafer, bad boy, bad Boy Atlanta Airport gonna be real yea

or for yeah yeah, loyalty or respect lordy loyalty? Why this is easy? It's the first yeah, yeah, you know your yeah, but why why loyalty? Because if if somebody, if somebody respects you, they're gonna be loyal. You know, somebody can respect you would not be meaning like somebody have love for you, still not be loyal. There's somebody's loyal.

There's there's something there like you might not even like me, you know what I'm saying, but you're not gonna do nothing to cross me out because you're like, you know what he brought me the game where he showed me something, he gave me a craft. It's just like, I ain't gonna do that, you know. When I'm from you know, I would rather you know, That's what kept me alive. Loyalty.

You know what I'm saying. That's what kept me out of the intentiary loyalty Like my my, you know, my older cousin that did fifteen years for me for ten years came out. You know what I'm saying. That was that was loyalty. Wouldn't He didn't throw me under the bus because he respected me. He was loyal. He was like, you got a shot. You know what I'm saying, You you can be something. So I'm gonna go ahead and you know, take this time to lay down and you know,

make sure you good. Some shout out to him for making sure we're making sure y'all got a young jeezy because if he wouldn't have sat down, there wouldn't be no me. But I'm gonna take a shout. Okay, you're still not ready to come on to being racist over here? Giving me water man, I'm offended. Yeah, although I love the water, so I don't know. I gotta love the boy. You gotta love won jees Man. Salute to you, man,

Salute man, stot a little man. The team came. It was ready hit a promotional truck out, So you ain't playing around every time you come to dream and you don't play around. Yeah, first time you came, you had girls. What happened to the girls ship? They wouldn't loyal? Okay, I'm just I just went to you this photography. You know, I'm dyslexic. So yeah, so we got to Freddie Cibs question. But back featuring Yo Gotti? Right, how did that record come about? Got me and God? He came in the

game together. You know what I'm saying. You just performed with his artist at the BT Bar. Shout out to right there were on stage. Forget that, Yeah, yeah, don't forget that. Yeah, shout out the guy, like you know, like with Gotti man, me and got It and Me and God he was sitting in the street like we probably get money together. That's just how we cut. You know. Inficent with Tennessee and George is like hand to hand. But me and God, he came in the game together.

When I was running around doing my first mixtape, like the streets, watching the Trap of Die. That's when I met Gotti and Memphis. Yeah, I didn't know that that's what he was doing. I knew him as a street guy like he knew me. So we kind of just grew up through the ranks and I always stayed in touch. He's like, you know, like me and got to see that we talk about life and don't really be about music.

You know what I'm saying as much and um, I just hear him sometimes he hit me about um act right and I was like yo, he said, you'll want you to get on this record. I was like, yeoall do it. But I just signed this artist from Cali, which was why g I was like, you know, why you gotta be on it with me? He was like, who running? And I said one more thing. He was like, what's that? I said, we got to shoot the video, the video on the bay. We gotta go to East

Oakland and shoot the video. He's like, let's do it. So all that happened like that. So that's the kind of report we got. No no, no, no no. But he but I brought y g Um. I had him from death him and brought him over with me and we did this first album. Um uh, his first album. I think I don't might be two times platform it's crazy my crazy life, okay, because I think it is

my crazy No No, he froosts. But you know, at the same time, though you know, I didn't never want to, you know, say that, but I kind of felt like that was an accomplishment of his own to even put up artists that was from you know, the West side California in the mix that when you wanted to shoot in the Bay though, because I knew it was gonna be. I knew it was gonna be, like that's what you wanted.

You wanted that real the HiFi. And that was crazy because it was like when we first went out there, you know, were out there with the trailers, it was like ten people out there. When the word got out was like seven thousand. You know what I'm saying. People are gonna dumb in the streets, you know, doing their crazy you know, ghost riding the whip, you know what I mean. So it shout out to the shout out to the Bay for the love. But act right through my act right but back. I hit Gotti up in

and he uh. I sent him the beat and he just put a verse on it, and then I heard something he said in the verse, and then I chopped it up and made it the hook and then sent it back and towing the verse on it, and then I put the birth. So I put this song together. So we didn't have a concept. He just said something about back and I just put it together and talking like that. Okay, so let's dress the other fit in the boom. Let's go, let's talk about Snowfall. Oh yes, Snowfalls.

That's that's a new album. Because by the time that it out, it's out. It's out. Shout out, shout out the DJ Drama. You know, I don't know how Man and Drama got in the game. Like, by the way, Drama didn't even want to do my first mixtapes. You know what I'm saying. He was back there. Yeah, he was tight. He was he was living in I understand how yellow. You know. I came over his house. He lived in the hood on Boulevard for for You know what I'm saying, I'm I'm getting money for real, say

four yeah, getting money for real. I'm living the buckhead of the time, right, I live with you know, I'm living you feel me. I come over his house. He asked me taking my shoes, I'll be staying in the hood. I'm like, it was just yellow and and and uh we just he started doing my show takes for a hundred dollars and and I kind of seeing what he was doing. I was like, y'all want you to do a tape and he was like, nah, you ain't had enough shot. I got money that's hot, you feel me?

And we went back and forth for months and months, and then he just finally decided to do it, and I took him a bunch of songs over there and we did Streets Watching, which was supposed to be called geez Up at first, but I changed the name at the last minute. And when I done it, I was already working on Trappic Die, just to tell him that you know what I'm saying, so then you know, of course,

I went back in. I was just like, I put this this mixtape out and I started to see some momentum and I'm like, how can I do it bigger? So this is when I went and got all the footage I had uh and made a DVD for trapp A Die, and then put Trapper Die out with the DVD and to this day like probably the best thing I've ever done. I remember being in the studio with Tricking Jazz Faye, like I'm about to put out a mixtape and they're like, you're crazy, why would you get

your music away for free. You're talking. I was pressing up you know, five six hundred thousand CDs and passing them out. You know what I'm saying. It clubsed me, you know what I'm saying, Bow and Yeah. I was watching. I was passing out of my frad. I go park my Friday to top, go out there with my little crew to who's passing out your mix tape? Yeah, to get signed or get yeah, okay, I just want to make By the way, I was doing Boys in the Hood shows with Boys in the Hood and we're just

getting paid a thousand dollars together. It was coming on and it was so crazy. It's four of us in the manager. You spent two hundred dollars a piece. I got half a million dollars in the front of the carn. I'm like, I'm confused, you know what I'm saying. I was like, you know what I'm saying that I'm being real. And it got to the point where I'll just let them keep the money, because like it wasn't gonna do

me any good, you know what I'm saying. But I wanted to my My pointing case was I wanted to do anything to get myself out of the situation I was in. And we gotta take a shot for that man, we gotta take a shot. And and and so Drama Drama did trapa di And I think trapad made Drama, believe it. But it also, you know, saved my life. It took me out the whole ship. That's that, that's that, that's that watermelon, that my badood with that Solottle solo

to you. Godamn. But if college and DJ Drama was the really battle on versus you're coming out with Drama, I think I'm gonna be a space you have to be on both sides. They've got records. But you didn't pick drama though, because I picked drama because we got history. Not you trying to say Collus the l a d J though that's what you said. I look at Callia Lord of Artists. Though for me, I'm Drama as an artist too. Now I think they they're kind of in

the same vange. Drama don't like people not calling him an artist. That's what this whole thing is about. Both put out the album. Um, I rock with both of them because Kelli gave a shot too, So I'm gonna be clear about that. I don't know. We was all at uh this club members called amnesia. Yeah about remember I was there. You know the irony of you saying record at the time, this is the irony of him saying amnesia. You're saying, I remember, that's the exact opposite

of amnesia. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm trying to get small buses. He came into buses and and I had to get money over here with bun b which was on the first mixtape Me and Drama that shout out to bun Be. He was one of the first major artists that gave me a feature. And I remember going to the bathroom. I was like yo with a bathroom man, and he's like upstairs, and I went upstairs because he was in amnesia. And I go upstairs and all I see is this I don't really know County, but I

don't know. I'm standing on the on the counter. He going crazy everybody. So I go downstairs and I tell everybody, you know, it's a whole another club up there. So we all go up. There's cluding fabulous and all us go upstairs. Fab go holiday, Cali, Cali give him the mic. He rocks it right, So I'm standing beside fab I'm like, yo, ask him, can I get the mic too? Cali give me one of those you know what I mean? Like who is this? You know what I mean? And I'm like,

I'm young jeezy, like who like won't know you. I'm just like yeo, man. So I get my man to give him the record. You know, I'm prepared to pay him to play the record. This is just Temple his birthday party. No this just remember that. Yeah, So I think one of the homies told me I just play his record. He played getting Money over here with m with bumb This was probably one of the biggest records in the Magic City at the time, and the roof flips off and I remember Cali looking at me like,

oh ship. That's how me and Cali got cool because he had to see it, and it just went from there. In Miami was just like already my second home. But that that ticket to another levels. Shout out to caliper that what I'm saying, big, but what your money is batting on even if you ain't gonna come out and perform, We're either one. He really wanted to what would you get as far as records, what would you bet who would win college or drama? I mean it's drama using

mixtape record? How does this work? Drama? Think? So yeah, it's all go. I'll tell you what like not not because I'm I'm being neutral. I wouldn't want to see because I don't know. Let's take a shot for that guy. Yeah,

I'm not. I'm being real, like so fair. I want to see that he is he gonna be in a huge JEZ record because it's yeah, that's that's That's what I'm saying, because, um, but what you're saying, it has to be his records, so that he made with you though they can't just be a big stage and he took from somebody else. I'm heah, he's I mentioned right because Kelley has more bodies of work, probably more more a little bit of bigger work, more studio albums. Right,

That's what I'm saying. So you got your shot ready? Yeah, okay, already see what's going on. And that's the Montica. Now what kind of the Monty Cristo, Monty Crystal I'm a part of that's an anniversary. I don't know that part. That's that big boy, that's it's about seven hundred stick solid Jesus specific right, goddamn. M hmm. So do you watch BMF. I haven't. I've seen some passing um producer or produce, so all that on me, honestly consulting man,

because it's too tricky. I know everybody for real, everybody's not gonna be happy with that, you know what I'm saying. And for me, that's not my that's not my story to tell you what I'm saying. So, I mean, it's it's it's affiliated. Like whenever people here BMTH, they always say the first artists of being math was Jez. What I'm saying is not true, but it's not true, but I mean the national level, he was the first artist. Yeah, but he didn't break it. Was never a BMTH artist.

He was directly a Bright but you was affiliated me and Meets was like YouTube, you know what I mean, which means that I had you know, and I had my crew. Um, so they kind of it was like if you cool with Nori and all of us cool with Nori, then you're cool with them, you know what I'm saying. He got his own cool. Yeah, so it was like that. Then we come together like United Nations, right, Yeah, we got every gun and it was like we was

hanging and being in the same spot. But like me and meets was really like like that though, meeting j BO like them with my you know, my guys. But again, like that's not my story, even when it goes back to the fifty Boys and all that stuff, Like I didn't even know him then, So that's not said Welcome home T. That's right, you said Welcome home T. He said, but you said some niggas might owe your money, but that ain't me. Yeah, So what was what was that

line about? Because because there was people putting out narratives as if I owed them, Oh, I don't owe them anything, you know what I'm saying. I've never done business, that type of business with them to owe him anything. So I just think the narrative was starting to be, like, you know, if it wasn't for that, it would be no meeting, know what I'm saying. And I just didn't understand that. And I don't really know Tea. I knew of Tea because when I was kicking it with meat

him and Tea with like beef and beefing. Oh, you know, like you know what I'm saying, And I'm glad they worked it out beautiful. But the two times I met T was what the two times talked to T was the first time I was at a party with puff boys in the hood, party in Dallas, and I mean there were puff in versus the boys in the hood, and somebody come over there, and you know, much of being mensane isn't like yo, TI want to talk to you?

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going and that's up, Hub. And that was that. And at the second time, he was in the pend and some ship happened in the street and he just called a check on me, like, yo, you're good. You know, I don't even worry about that the boot. And that was two only two times, you know what I'm saying. So when he came home, um, you know, you know, I got the call like to you know, I'm like, damn, that's what's up. But I didn't know him to like reach out and be like, yo, you good because I

didn't know him, you know what I'm saying. But I do I have love phone? Um oh, you didn't know him to be like in his mix, you know, be hit me. Of course I'm gonna pick up the phone because that's that's the bro. But I didn't know him to be like, you know, reaching out saying ship. Yeah, so that that's real. Let's see. OK, let's move on.

God damnit smooth ye it's a for sunny Oh yeah no, no, no, no, yeah yeah yeah, Well, um, hold on go Okay, hold on, hold on, So so what what was the situation we actually talked about one the time you're here but for this episode. But Boys in the Hood and bad Boy and your involvement and when you kind of left that situation. Okay, so I never left. I was hot as fist, grease,

Yeah you want me? Like was all the tapes that I was passing out out of my far you know what I'm saying, and all the promile was doing because I started guerrilla marketing, like I really was the one out here like pushing the line with like spending its own money. I spent, you know, millions to get on you know what I'm saying before I've seen anything. And um, we're boys in the Hood and it's Block Entertainment, right, yeah, this is blocked. So boys in the Hood, Um, God

blessed dead. Kim Porter, which is a system of mine, which is Puffs kids. Mother knew the homie and her friend Erica I'm at Ebony sorry, which is my sister too hit me and it was like, Yo, you gotta come by the studio. Puff got this group. He wants you to do a song. So I went in the first song I ever did was them boys by the way, like I'm not I'm still not a rapper. I'm still ride rund in that Ferrari with a half a million in the front of you know what I'm saying, Like,

I'm not a rapper. So I get in the room with these guys and they're doing this song, them boys, and I'm not a rapper, you know what I'm saying. So I'm in here with people who like spitting balls, you know what I mean. So it took me like an hour and a half to just write my verse, and it took me like another hour to put it

down because I'm not so familiar with the studio. So by that time, everybody walked down because Trick was there, Jazzy Favor was there, and everybody was there, and I remember them like, you know, people in the hallway talking shit like man, he whack. So I remember I put it down and I walked down the hallway and told him to play it. And it was like, if it's

taken too long to lock up. By the time the fourth bar, can't everybody that was outside the Talking Ship was in the studio going crazy, you know what I'm saying. I was like, yeah, I told y'all you know what I mean. But what happened was, you know, I was about my business earlier and I didn't need anything from anyone. And when Kevin Allows and l A Re signed me, the deaf jam Kevin left two weeks after he signed me to Atlantic to Atlantic Kevin Lows, and they never

told me who the next president was gonna be. So when I was walking to deav Gym to go to the building, I've seen this black may back pull up and I'm sitting down. You know, you're running your credentials, So you get the past, give me d and the door open in his hole. He's like, yo, jeezus, what's up. I'm like, what's up? You know what I'm saying. Hey, He's like, I'm onna walk up with me. You knew him to that. I've seen it, but not like that.

We had no conversation in that little area that you put your idea, your security guard to get you a little bass. They say just such, and and said walk up with he already he was already to presidence in it. He said, you know I'm up here. I got you, okay. I'm like, oh, ship, you know what I'm saying. I love Kevin lis mcdamn. You know this s started to make sense, Okay what I'm saying so um So when I got a hole, I instantly realized because I love Puppa. You know, I was. I had a little man syndrome

back then. So every time I was around Puff, I was trying to show him I got the same watch you say that my whole thing. I'm like, my chest was out, and he was just like, yo, man, you know what I mean. So he was just like, you know, so it took Jay. He was like it, what's going on with you? And you know what I'm saying, I'm like, yeah, you gotta know that U and not the whole time I'm talking shit, I'm not realizing that Puff is on the other end of the pool table. I didn't know

you was playing pool? No, no, so no, this is like one day it was in He's like, what's going on with you? You know? You know I'm getting money? Well you know how that is? You street guy? You feel like get money close to Jay Z down, it's like you're ready to go to war for for no reason, like you cool whatever. He's like, yeah, yeah, that's my man. And he was like and then he's like Puffs on

the other end of the table. So me and Puff had already done the Boys in the Hood deal, but it was like it was a lot of things that happened during the deal that kind of like made me feel different, Like meaning like I'm going to Magic City and Puff is calling my phone to sign the deal for Boys in the Hood, but I'm telling them going to Matton City and he's calling my phone back to back and he like, go to Kinko's and signed the contract and send it back like with the Facts machine.

By the way, kids used to go ship So for those of the Xerox, that's how you caught me something, right. So so so now I'm like, y'all ain't going to key cards. I gave you over there, so you know, I just had a tip on my shoulda. And it was when Jay was like yo, man, like you know, he sat me and Puff down, we just you know talk, you know. So I got a chance to really know because I didn't really I knew him, but I knew him through like meeting up so I only saw him

in club setting. So I was like, I'm a street guy. You know you're gonna respect me. That was my whole inmo with any rapper or any entertainer because it was just like, I'm risking my life out here. Y'all ain't going through this ship. So anyway, puff Um and Jay sit there and I go, look, man, i want to do the Puff deal, but I'm only gonna do one album. I gave Puff a number and he was cool that, you know what I'm saying. And me and Puff been cool every since. That's my bro, like we chopped up

my business, spirituality whatever. But he was like, I ain't cool. And now I got puffing Jay in the same room and they agreeing to let me do this Boys in the Hood album only one album pushed the Motivation back, which is highly anticipated for a month your first album, my first album, right, the Motivation one on one. So in my mind, I'm coming off a trapper die and I'm using them boys is another marketing peace, you know

what I'm saying. So now I got two deals and I'm I'm building this momentum that that was my mindset so right, and with the guys you know, and no disrespect to them. I just think that was a little more season when it came from business because I came out of the streets and I was used to dealing with said the guys boyhood, so they didn't understand, you know what I was doing because I'm thinking business. I mean, I get the records, and I also knew that them

boys was a hit. It's like like you like going for the selfish move or like I think that if I'm honest, and they probably tasted. I think it's been some situations where I kind of tried to put them on the game, but they probably looked at me like I was separating the group and you really wasn't the officially wrapper at that time year. I was the street guy who just had one good verse on the whole project and on the tour like like I was on

too with Jody Brees. Jody Breese was the guy like all the girls left Jody like the bus like damn, Like I got on the Town Dollar roll, like you'll see this what's going on? But before you continue because I also worked the Bad Boy Records and he he was on or once a part of the street team too, and we ye, they was pushing we was the Miami Street Team. I was running down here and they were like, okay,

there is a South record, y'all gotta push this. But there seemed to be some confusion when that record came, because if it was like you're on you're in the group, you're not in the group, and I don't I don't remember clearly how it was the timeline back that the group. Yeah, I mean I'm record, yeah, the record? What the thing was that? Rightfully? So, I'm my own boss because I'm pressing on my own CDs. I'm paying for my own stuff. I'm signed to death. Cham Um, I got a public

in situation. You asked Big John, He'll tell you John that money, man, I didn't even cash my def Jam and my Publician check. You understand, I'm saying, like I just had these checks in my house. What what the Publicisan check I lost in a pair of jeans, which was crazy because I had to figure that out because I didn't know. And then I had, um, you know, my def jam check that I didn't even cash because I had bread. And I remember Jay called me one day,

He's like, Yo, what are you doing? Okay, okay, did you lose the Publicisan checking? You you don't even remember? You know? I lost it? And then I called Big John shout out the big John he had check. Again, he didn't understand what the hill because nobody can't take that check in cash. But I'm gonna be honest. You know, I'm a street guy. I had my money bags. I thought when he gave me the check that it was

already somewhere. I need to go pick it up. I didn't know about Baker and it was a huge check check and me and John laugh about that, you know, just anyway. But the reality of it is I didn't discuss with the guys what I was doing on the business side, so they probably felt like that I was being selfish. But I had a plan, feeled me, and that was my plan because that was never really officially

a group I had to get. I was. I was getting a label deal with Death Jam, which was CT then shout out to the new deal Corporate Thugs Entertainment. But but but I had a plan, and I wasn't trying to just be in a group, you said, saying, because I wanted to break my own artists and do my own things. So again communication, I didn't talk to them and say, look, this is what I'm trying to do. I was more so like I'm gonna do this, you know,

y'all gotta figure this out. That's you know, probably why you know it kind of went a little left and to make it up, Mark, but I was working in death jammers, so then we're working Oh my god, he's working bad boy and okay, use one of them type of both sides in the middle. I'm taking a shot. It's hard. Don't drink that ship. I'm sorry, keep going, I keep going that man, Well, I'm sorry. I just this is a great joke, that's all. So I got

the word that you're doing a new album. I'm saying I feel like Jesus got all the accolades, got all the success, got all the money, beautiful family, beautiful wife. Why even come outside, like why not staying eat peaches all day? Watermelon? You love it that I did that, though, Man, I can't. I'm not for feeling like that. Bro, I don't like. I gotta be happy. This is my this is my purpose. It ain't even about the money no more. It's about like I know what any about the money.

It's it's it's about like, you know, even for the younger generation coming up, it's like, this is what you do when you're fifteen twenty years in you still you know, you're still who you are, but you've got a bigger mindset as you lead by example. And one thing about it, I lived enough in the streets to talk about it forever because because the game don't change, it's just only

the players and the same thing. And I just feel like for me, you know, I ain't trying to preach and nothing, but I'm like, I got a few people that I respect, and I could sit the mentors and we don't even communicate on the mental levels, just like I just talked to him about things, but I love the way they moved. So for me, it's just like I want to show these cats, even fifteen twenty years in the game, you still get moved. Like I'm well

aware of my surrounds. I can tell you right now how many black T shirts over there who got white with you know what I'm saying. I know you know what I'm saying. That's who I am. But at the same time, with what what keeps me ful Field is to be able to connect with people from a personal level. Like on the way over here, I had used the bathroom, I opt out of the Walgreens on where that was that. You know what I'm saying, right in the middle of

the hood before I could even get to the door. Everybody, jeezus, that's what I do it for because they love me, because I have values, I have integrity, and I have and I'm a visionary, Like I have a vision that street people want to have me. They want to come from somewhere, accomplish something and then take that in the compass something else. So even when I came in the game, you know, I only started rapping because I already knew

what the streets was gonna do. But I'm not the best rapper nor ever I ever claimed to be, because if you really know about it, like music is my talent because I you know, jumped in the head first and figured it out. But business is my passion. I always wanted to do this and this and real estate and that and be able to sit here and have a real conversation about my business. Like when I say I only have for Atlanta, No, I'm yeah that serious. Oh yeah for Shore City blocks asks about me? Yeah

straight up. LLLC, Yeah, that's all day. LLC on you when outside takes to come on, let's do it solo solo so cheers. Sticking to that subject real quick. A lot of people were shocked. I don't know if if you ever did an interview since this, a lot of people were shocked when they announced that you was even doing the verses right, not only are you doing the verses, but then who you was doing the verses against. I think the industry was just like, wow, I didn't you know.

I remember me calling Swiss and me asking like for inside information, like sure this just can actually go down, and Swiss is like they had a private meeting. It was Was that true that you had a private meeting prior to that? I wouldn't lie. I'm gonna keep it the ball. Yeah, okay, because it just had to be

some understanding. Okay, you know what I'm saying, and there's so much history and that you know what I'm saying, And for me, I just wanted to believe that weight all myself, because you know, contrary to people's beliefs, it ain't what they think. The whole situation however, it's that too, but values and morals, meaning that if I would say what really happened, I gotta throw somebody under the bus that I love. You know what I'm saying, like, I'm not gonna do that, so I had to wear that

for fifteen years. So I'm just like, yo, at least musically, let's put this shit in the space where that part is at least good, just out of respect and and and a lot of people thought it was a game, but it is for the culture. It's like, Yo, that's unfinished business. But it is what it is. But when it comes to what we do is as far as leaders leadership, like it has to be some type of understanding or we're gonna be extinct out here, bro, Like you know rap It is like I'm like you, like

why I come outside? You know what I'm saying. You still had a better chance going to Iraq. You know what I'm saying That in the rapper in today's world, you know what I'm saying. But it has to start somewhere, you know what I'm saying. Again, I don't want to be the type of person to preaching teach, but I feel like that moment just had to happen. People had to see us in the same room, and I'll be lying to say that we haven't seen each other, you

know what I'm saying. Or rang that right, and like we both like, you know what I'm saying, because it's been so long, so many conversations, so much miscommunication, you know what I'm saying. And you know, if if you saw it, you know it's for your you know how many people and by the way, like Swiss need to talk to us because that was the highest view versus and as I can remember, right after that, they saw that ship, the Triuler, So yeah, Swiss and you know

we're out here, baby, Yeah, let's be real. That's what I'm saying. But you know, at the end of the day, like you know, I can't speak on the real ship. But what I can't say is at this point in the game, you know, you don't work this hard to get here, and everybody got ship to lose, now, you know what I'm saying, a life that they always dreamed of. Just like, let's let's do the artist ship first and then everything else. So let me ask and you could

answer this how you want to. So in this private meeting, was it discussed that you know that the Hill might say something that's going too far and you can say whatever you want. Was that discussed? All that was not discussed. It was just to see if we can sit in the same room, but the details wasn't was kind of sort of but now, but if you know, homie, you already know, like it's just what it is, you know

what I'm saying. I kind of felt like it wasn't gonna go that way just based off what it was, because you're talking about some ship that happened, you know, so long ago on the streets that you finally getting a chance to be face to face, and it's taking uh Magic City for one, that was happening in magazine City for one, Apple for two, Switched Beats for three, Timberland for four. Talking when you say Apple, you're talking about a multip billion dollar company almost taking a risk

on with two of them. Stacy Abrams came on and spoke before for that give me give a set up and stare because that way you'd never been bad for the campaign, and because it was crazy, because I see how calm you were. Almost was like and and again I'm outside of the that's an inside of us looking in from the outside. Um, it almost felt like you expected.

It almost felt like I don't want to say you expected or you kind of knew that women beating honest with you, like, yeah, just giving the history of who he was were, I know he didn't know what they expect and I didn't even the because you know, like when you're pulling up and you know everybody out there with you guys, you know, semimachine, guns and tactics and like it's it's it's like, you know, it's like putting, you know, ship putting in the room with whoever they're

beating within the UK just because you don't nine times out of ten it don't be you, but somebody is with you. It's just like nah, so nobody knew what they expect. But I can't tell you this again. This is what respect come in. And people who do it right shout out to Magic because Magic is a legend. He was one of the first people that one of the owns Magic City. But he's like our uncle. You don't disrespect Magic, you just do it because he's such

a solid guy. What I'm saying. And it's just like if we was cousins and we had a disagreement, it's like being with your uncle, I'm gonna talk first, you know if you don't work out after that handy business, but not here, So it was that. But at the same time, um, nobody knew what Dick's fact. I mean, I'm gonna be honest with you. I was watching the

Apple people. They were sweating. I was like, look, I was watching people there was supposed to be with me, like sliding over people supposed to be with him side. Nobody knew what side of standing up like I was home. I don't know what's going on, but but but you know, one time for the music man, because you know I haven't said and done. That's gonna be a part of history there everybody I don't remember, but it just had to happen, bro, Like, you gotta be the first too,

you know what they say. To be a true leader, you got you gotta stand out there before anybody else doing take that lead, because you could have woke up tomorrow and they's been like, I'm good on home just because of that. You know what I'm saying, but you know it. And then ya actually did a tour together after that. Yeah that's the thing. It's just like but he apologized after that. Yeah, but I mean, but but you know, I don't know if this is right the same,

But I'm just you how I'm on it. You know, he hit me because it was basically my tour. I was the front run. I was the first person on the tour and he hit me. He was like, yo, you know what I'm saying. You know, I want to get on this tour and you know, how have you taken I'm to be honest. You know where bro, I never blocked how you feed your family? It is what it is. I see that's after person. Yeah, I see that.

What was that? But but I had to give that call because they weren't gonna let that go on if I said no, Well I was front run and I'm like, yo, I don't never get between you and your money. That's fine. I think we got know what I'm saying that because I think I think and y'all cord you like it's listen, I'm not gonna lie. You know what I'm saying, Like we we we um. It's in the space where we can we can coexist, and I think that's all that matters.

Like looking for Yeah, nobody's looking for you know. It wasn't like before that. We was hanging out every day, you know what I'm saying? So, yeah, well what makes some nuch for growth back listen, real ship. So we're gonna bounce aroun. I'm gonn I'm gonna get back to um therapy for my soul. Okay, Oh it's a good Yeah. Yeah. You said something that we just had. The megoes up here and he said something about coach k right. You're on coach k right. Um, what exactly what you're saying

right there? I'm saying that again, you know, communicating is key, right, I'm saying that when money is at plate and there's not the right type of communication, the lines team that seem to get blurred, and if you're not And this is another thing I want to say, and it's for anybody that's coming up in the game. There's no handbook or no template of how to do this ship. You give it your all, your risk of life, and then all of a sudden you wake up and your multimlion

more power than you can grasp. And and and if you come for one from you already got your own trauma. People to them, try to do things to you, funk over you, all these different things. So I'm dealing I'm dealing with that one question. He's dealing with, dealing with artists that went left um, but at the same time he's part of your management. At first at the time, you know, Coach came to Like the craziest thing is Coach came to the studio because Dallas also studio in Atlanta.

Because back then I was driving the g S four dred Lexus I had, I was iced out and I was spending cash money to get the studio and he was hearing about that, and that's how he came to the studio and started to be friend me. You know what I'm saying. And then over time he was just like somebody around it. I could be like, yo, can you take care of this? And he was doing it. Don't get me wrong, he's great at what he does. But there was a lot of conversations that didn't happen

before the fame and the money came under understanding. It's like getting into a marriage and you don't talk about what are the yeah right, what are the things that are deal breakers? And you know what what things you don't want because it's now it's a relationship. And for me, I'm a street guy. If you do anything that seems questionable to me, then I just know how to handle it. How I handle it, you know what I'm saying, And again that ain't with the best communication. Ther lationship was

what coach. It wasn't never Pete Pete. Now I didn't know p O. I only only knew Pe when him and co star, Right, OK, So just to get some clarity to it, some things went on. You know, I'm sound quite sure he would say different, you know what I'm saying, as he should, but I just you know, I didn't trust a lot of things that And again there's no handbook for this, so I don't even know how it's supposed to go. I'm just understanding what I'm assuming.

And so if you're not communicating with some and it's not going how you wanted to go, of course you're gonna be like yo, like I ain't rocking like that. And then he probably thought, you know what I'm saying,

ain't going high he wanted to go. So if you ain't have no understanding going into this, and it's like right now, we we're sitting here and we're drinking and we're having fun, and we got a podcast, and this ship just blow out of the roof and then somebody just come drop this big bag of money on the table. But we but we ain't talked about you know what I'm saying, because I'm like, yo, I'm spending millions like I'm not fifty, but sitting or doing like you know

what I mean, like the risk of my life. And he's like yo, but I you know what I'm saying. So there was never no issue that we couldn't resolve. But I just think when it wasn't talked about pre right money and pre success, it's like there's a lot of expectations there, and you know how to go with expectations, you know, if if it ain't what you want, you to feel that down. So and I still got love for coach, Like I'm happy he's successful. I'm happy he's

done what he did. I hear people all the time he's ain't putting nobody on but just looking around coaches on done, Canda Zone, Drama Zone, so, the Red Zone, the Drummer boy Zone, Justice League Zone. These all people that I dealt with before anybody else that listen, let's go to death jam is on. I did a feature for my you know time over I did a feature for every artists over there, including Rihanna, Kanye, we like you name it. There's nobody I ain't touched over there.

It's just that I didn't want the money for myself because I'm a hustler, so I'm gonna do what I do for me. I don't have to do coming to this podcast and see how successful is and try to pull you to the side and go let making this to be a part of it, because I'm happy for you. It's like I'm happy for them. I'm happy for DJ Drama and all the success and the things that they're doing to my brothers. I want to see him sign and it's better that we didn't do business with each

other because I love him. But you know, light skin Nig is different. Brother. I'm telling y'all steaking to the class sometimes. But but we're going on to be crazy. I love him and that's why we can come back now with all our success, all the ship that we got going on and still do some amazing like Snowfall. You know what I'm saying, because now we're in a different space and it ain't it ain't out of desperation.

It's for the love, you know what I'm saying. It's for like, yeah, you know this is and the reason why I really wanted to do this project with him because I don't want expect taxes. I want to do what was drama. This is Snowfalls. Snowfall is me and DJ Drama. That's a mixtape or this is what I would call it a street album. And it's for my Day one and Don Cannon is exactive producer. And I

got all my guys on there, that number one fan. Yeah, but I got all my all my producers that I love, you know, the Justice Leagues, the d Riches, that all those guys that I love, and I just wanted to get in and do something I wanted to do with no expectations, meaning that I don't have to put no you know, no top ten record on it. I want to talk crazy. You know it's Curls Ship. I'm back talking crazy. You know what I'm saying, ice Cube. When you say as cool, I'm back, don't know what a yeah,

I forget, keep for getting, keep good. You gotta hear a good. Our demographics keep getting younger and younger. Young niggas saying what's up, Nori. I'm like Walmart Nick better not know why not we are live? You on your parents is crazy? You know? But um, let's move to put on. How did you and Kanye link up for that? Okay? So this true story. So Kanye did this record that was on the recessing because he said he's a fan.

He knows. So there's a record on Recession called I Got Money with Me and t I. I put Kanye on. I send the record to Kanye. It's like, we can have before the album had to be turned in, right, and he says the record back a totally different record. He says it back with if you remember the record. I'm like, so I gotta turn it in. But his verse sounds like a totally different song. So I go, yeah, I can't use it. I just gotta keep me and Tip on it. And he was like all right. Cool.

So about six months go by, you called me out of nowhere. What are you doing? He said, kind of talked to you for a man. I was like, yeah, for sure. He goes, uh, you remember that song you did that I did for you. I was like yeah, He's like, I want to keep it. I said yeah, whatever. He said, who produced it? And I told him that to produced it. He asked me for too Snumber. I gave him to Snumber. So that's what big brother. All those records he had on the album came from Tom.

So I put to Kanye with right, yeah, yeah, what I'm saying he produced, So I put him with and and he called me after the fact he said, Yo, do you mind if I keep your adlets? Or? This is why I know he's genius. He said, do you mind if I keep your ad libs on it? I'm in passing. I'm not even thinking. I'm like whatever, yeah. Yeah. So the song comes out huge, like I'm not even expecting this, but my ad libs are in the song. So everybody listened to the song on the radio. Wait

for my birth to come in. Yes. So everybody's calling me like, yo, there's this song out. It sounds like you're about to wrap it. You don't wrap. I was like, it's Kanye's record. So anyway, long story short, I going to London to do a show. I go, I go on to eight. I think Kanye goes on a ten. The first record he does in front of eighty thou people is um, wait till I get my money right, I'm watching eighty tho people. Uh, it's crazy. I look at because jay Z and Beyonce there and I look

at him. I said, I think I funked up. He's like, what do you mean? I said, I gave Kanye that record I didn't know and he was like, yeah, it's crazy, so you know what I'm saying. So now I'm like, damn so and at this time, not not needed it. It's not the one, So I never forget. I was trying to call Kanye. I had this record call put on and I was trying to call Kanye and I couldn't get him on the phone. I called l a read. He's like, I'm gonna call him for you. Called me

with Kanye in the phone. He said, Yo, Kanye, want to talk to you. He got on the phone. This is when his mother passed and he hadn't done any record system and we talked. We had a real conversation. He said, I'm gonna do it for you. So I sent him. I told him what put on me and in the South in Atlanta, he was like a word and then I sent him the song and then he called me back on his own line. He was wrapping

me the verse. But you know, I'm like, go put it down, go do it now, like, don't wrap it on the phone and he went and put it down and he sent it to me. And I'm getting ready to go out out of town to do some shows for the weekend. Um, and I got all my homies on the tour bus. So it's like twenty of us on the tour bus, so a lot of choppers, a lot of choppers. And I and I gave it to V one on three to Gregg Street, right, but I

didn't tell nobody Kanye was on the song. They heard the song in the studio, but nobody knew Kanye was on the song. So we're on the tour bus and we headed out of town and Greg Street brings the song back like a hundred times. I mean, it was crazy. And when everybody heard Kanye West, I just I watched their eyes because you know, you would you would think like and I knew right then and was hit and I never forget bro. I was like, we're back on

We're back in the game. And I remember Ellie calling me like, man, he did it again, this is crazy and uh number one, and then Drake hopped on the remix. We did that on BT and the rest of his history. Man, and probably to be honest with you, I feel like

it's probably one of Kanye's best verses ever. It was so crazy that jay Z got on it the remix if you remember, Yeah, so yeah, he had a record with Drake Kanye and Drake got on I Do with Andre three thousand and Jay C and I. You don't believe that I say that, go here there on Snowfall I got. I got more records with jay Z than Biggie Small. Let's be clear, you feel me, Let's be clear what I'm saying. Let's be clear. Ship that is crazy. Oh my god? Yeah, So who's your inspiration? On Bars?

You're saying you didn't come in as an artist, so you say, but you obviously got You said you got hold on a new Snowfall to No, No, No, Nona. You got more records, and I got more records with jay Z than he does with Biggie Small, for sure. Okay, but you're gonna give us somebody that song Snowfall. Hey man, let me finish my question. Goddamn bad guy. Tell me you inspired by Bar Smiths. You have to be, because

you're doing bars. You're saying you're not. You didn't come in as an artist like that, but you am seeing right. I think it's because of my love for music. But um, every morning before school I listened to all MASTERP, A, B, M j G. But my favorite was Tupac and more of my favorite was Tupac and still is to these days. Because he stood for something. He had values, he had morals, he had integrity, and I had never seen that before because my uncles are still twenty dollars out of socks.

You know what I'm saying, People that I respect. What I'm saying was taken from you know what I'm saying. And I couldn't get any information out of him. So how I learned how to survive and navigate through the streets. And I want to say that because even when these guys is coming up, you know, nine of ten percent of it is music, of it is surviving and survival

and navigating through what's going on. And the reason why I was able to navigate through a lot of things, but because I listened to Tupac as if he was like that was my bibles, how I knew how to handle sit in situations and it was embedter than me.

And it's just like, you know, he was a revolutionary before I knew what that was like he actually had He's still something and and and and he would take those risks when everybody around me was so used to how they was living that they didn't want to try to live any better. And I was like, with Ship, I'm just gonna go take some risk. So my my bible at that time, you know, no dispect to the big homie was every Tupac our I would give by myself the home never I ain't never heard that, but

I listened to um Tupac every morning before school. And when I made my assistant to drop out of school in the sixth grade, I did that knowing that I had to make away from my mom and my sister. But I did that knowing that Tupac did what he had to do. Sixth grade. Yeah, yeah, sixth grade. I got my g D. When I was locked up. I got one on you one once. I got one over alright, we went away. I heard what you said when you receive your award. He said, I don't know if I

can read it's real, Ship. Seriously, I got lawyers, don't know if not your Yeah, the question mark after he's trying. Oh my god, man, this is so great. Man. Okay, sole Survivor feature at a calm A calm. Okay, shout out to Boucon. But by the way, you see Acorn new cut. We got to talk about this, his new haircuting his Barbara don't like him. Man, It's like, what's the African man? You gotta getting a pass. Let's do what did over there? I respect, I know that this

is this. That's somebody we could have the first question man, like somebody put a bowl on your ship and you just cut around and like a car. You gotta get your life together. You gotta way too much money. And I think that might be Beijing patch. I think that's just going on. I said when I first came, my friend, I don't want to speak on nobody else, but you know this is true. Noticed what I'm taking a shot for that. Let me know what part are you taking a shot for the patch? Let me know what I

want to know too. Yeah, he coming on. That's what's crazy. We had you coming on and then as we have you going up, they said, um um, so I just kept saying I'm gonna tell you that though, okay, pop it so boom, God bless you Dad Shkire Stewart Um A and R and confident at the time in bookon Bootcon is a cons brother, Yes, right, and they knocked out show. I don't know, yeah, I mean if he did yeah. Um. But Boom called me and I was a passwords working literally working, you know, I was doing

both of my jobs. I was recording and um, and he said, I got this CD for you, the A content and he brought it over there and this was what CDs was A can already got locked up out already, okay, so you bring me the CD, and um, it's six songs on it. So I put it in. I listened to all six songs and the last one was Sole Survivor and I just started touring around with it because I had a party that night at Visions, and I told around whe I put the first verse on it,

and you know, I'm just kicking this more. We doing what I do. And then Shakire pulls up because he's coming to the party with us. Shaquire was a vice president of Dead to him at the time, and he said, what you're working on? I played him Soul Survival. He's like, yo, guys, this this is it. This is I'm just like but at the top I had like trapped out, so I wasn't even thinking like that, and um, I thought it was a crossover record and I didn't want to do

one of those. So we go to the party, We turned up, we drink, We come back and Shaquire goes, why don't you picking us the record that she was working on ACoM because I didn't have nothing to work on, so I knocked the record out. It was done right. He heard, He was like, yo, this is crazy. I didn't think none of it. Fast forward, there's an intern at Pats work. We'll talk about the lawsuit later because

I hadn had my business. There's studio that's with studio's intern there that wanted me to use his beats for Thug Motivation. One on one. I didn't use his beats. I didn't know about masters back then, so I was just recording and leaving all my tapes and all my stuff at the studio. He gets all my songs, puts his beat on the frost. That's how we knew he did it. He puts his beat first like it's just instrumental, and then my whole album and then he leaves it.

So Thug Motivation got leaked like four months before we're supposed to come out. So but I'm with the wrong beat stuffs with all the songs. Every song you heard on th Movace was on this leak. So now I'm like halfway in, halfway out the streets. My man called me, He's like, Yo, your album's leaked, and I think I knew who did it. So I jumped in my Porsch truck drive down to the studio. I got my a

k this is this is no line. So they got him pinning up at the studio and I get there and my man like, y'all gonna just, you know, run from up. I said, no, I'm about to, you know what I'm saying. So, because now I'm thinking I gotta go back to the streets. Already went cold turkey. Ill don't told people. They don't even owe me the money that they owed me. You know what I'm saying. I'm saying, so now now this is it. You know what I'm saying.

On top of the fact that right before I turned the al Men, I told my vocal cords, so I didn't even know if I was gonna be at the talk again because I had to have surgery, so I didn't even know if my voice was gonna be the same, you know what I'm saying, And we'll talk about that too. But and um so I get there, you know, I draw down on me and Slick pull it in up, you know what I'm saying, being the brakes off of them. I gotta go through this whole lawsuit, but I had

to pay them and to getting the big homie. The best thing to ever happened to me because at that time there was the biggest bootlegging ring going on in the world in Atlanta. Like it was bootlegg and everything you can think, like it was busting bootlegs. So me and Slick Puller and a few of my homies rode around for at least three weeks with three vans a lot of choppers, and ran up in every bootleg trying to take the CD back. But what I didn't realize

was the a absolutely one thousand per cent. And what I didn't realize was that the music was already out and it was spreading to Detroit, d C. It was doing me good and I didn't know that. And it wasn't until I went to do the Birthday Bass and they played Bottom of the Map and twenty thousand people lost in the first prom and then I wanted to go a trap of dives my single right by now. So surviving is huge in the streets, like it's crazy,

some something I never expected. And how I knew is I'm going to a show and I think I'm going to Dallas. So I'm in the airport and I'm walking through the airport and her Motherucker said a kind of young Jesus what then? And then it would be like, you know, people from Africa walking up to me the airport like Jeezy, we love you man, you know, shout out to you. Ain't come like what the because I didn't never know a con was that big? And I knew he come from Atlanta. Yeah I didn't, I've never

been to Africa. No, no, he said, it's true. It's TRUEMM called me and Secure called me. He said, Yo, this is your single. And I was sitting there and I was like, you know what to be crazy if I could shoot the video like pay them full and I was like, yo, anybody know cameeron and they're like what called cameraon up? He was like, yo, peace King, I'll be there. So called Cameroon a couple of those guys from there, and I remember going out there to

do the video shooting single. Yes, I didn't have me, you forgot me. He was probably doing something. You had the biggest thing, and everybody came from me to jay Z and it was like the biggest thing ever that I heard and heard. JAYZ actually came to that. He

came to the video shoot, came out trailing. He sat there and I'm gonna say it now because I don't know if he's ever heard it, but you know, shout out to Calm because that record chains my life, like it took me from being a ghetto trapped superstar to be world you know what I'm saying. And I had no idea that one song can do that. So shout out to Calm gets too paid, right, and that's it. Yeah, that's what It's cool. He's my friend. I can talk about it. He call always offered me a call to Africa.

I thought you said you got one. Now my mind I do, but I was just go I'm gonna just go called. Are you af okay Boom? My president is black? Yes, my president right now is whack. Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna be honest. He came and sat down and talked to me. I'll never forget it. We had a meeting with all the leaders of Atlanta. Time on time. He said, he just lost on us. I'm being honest, just ca. He came to see you want to talk to me, And he came and we did this this thing with all

the leaders. You can see the pictures. They are there, and he wanted me to sit right beside him, and he looked at me the whole time. He ex questions. But I'm knowing he knew that I had something to do with his man getting in there, and that's why he did it. But we're talking about now, yes, yes, before he won, we're talking about Trump. Trump was whacked too. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, But I'm talking about Biden right now. You Biden about the dots just because Bro, come on

dog saying that too, Hold on, hold on time. You said no stage, listen, listen, we want to bet stage. Jeez. They're like, tell him nor he can say whatever he wants. I said, Yeah, they didn't say that, you know. They did said be myself, beat yourself. That's saying whatever I'm saying just the same. They don't know nor, we don't know, be yourself. I go. I said, no, don't tell I go. I go, alright, go listen. Did you just see Afford

the body? He about to die? Because because Biden, say said to the right, Mr President, he clearly made a laugh, clearly went the other way. I said to die. They said, do not tell North what you say? What do you want to say? A lot? They come to everything, They come everything. They say, okay, all right, that's the difference between But I'm gonna be honest. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's that make me nervous. We want to use the machine. Let's get the whole home, Let's get the

whole room high. Let's get the machine. God damn it. Yeah, get that machine. Get that machine. We upgraded since you've been here. I'm a I'm a street guy. Man. I get a little paranoid when I see that much of anything. It's legal, it's legal, it's it legal. Yeah. Yeah, you was like early on a drink. Chance you came back again and this is the cha alumn. But I'm gonna be honest with you though, man like me and Nori talk yes time to time. Yes, I'm really just I'm

proud of you guys. Man, I'm sorry you guys. Got you guys got the coach hat. It's like, this is a stop, this is a must stop. Think And as I see you guys getting outside of this music, I respect it more. You know what I'm saying. Respect a little salt and that's it. God smell right too. I got damn seven hundred dollars, got there, Get your life right. That's a rockets good. Mama Wana made in a tubbing kindle makes some notes that Mama Wana. Don't ever drink that.

Don't ever drink that jeezy litten. Trust me, he's my friend. I love him, but he's crazy, Okay, I love it. Yeah, man, that was That was one of those things, just taking a chance on it. I remember getting the beat from DJ Tobi at this studio in the hood, and I went over there night by myself and I sat in the room with him one of his producers, for like four hours and listening to every beat they had, and

the last piet they played was that beat. And I got this thing like the sixs because I don't like necessarily write music. I see it, you know, I can. I can hear it beat and see what it's supposed to be so I know what it's gonna be when it's doff you. Yeah, you just you just see it, you know what I'm saying. I just get music differently. And I was like, Yo, wait till I come back

with this. And I did that, did that record and I played it for two and he went crazy, and I knew what it was because when I played it for l a read, he was just like, yoh, this is just a single. Or going back to my president is Black. I did that record five months before he won, and I put it on the album before he won because I had faith that he was gonna win and I need that. I just felt like at the time, we needed to change. So it's a lot of things that I did behind the scenes to really help him

win in my opinion, like culture wise, right. But you know, I don't know if I told the story before it again got that he invited me to he invited me to a correspondence. Then this time he is Barack Obama. Barack Obama invited me to a correspondence. Then in New York I got there. How many times they searched you,

They didn't even let me in. They told me I couldn't come in and watching trade songs walking Oprah, this one that one Kevin lows and I'm just sitting there, Yes, I got time for suit on that I spent way too much money for. You know what I'm saying, like, I'm I'm embarrassed. So I get on the plane. I go back to Atlanta on the same night. Long at flight ever, because in my mind, I'm like, Yo, what

the funk happened? I said all these things, And that's what really reminded me that I just never ever ever lose touch with my people on my core because they appointed me, and I'm not always gonna be accepted in those likes because I come from to have not send the people to the demonize. However, I'm in London, I'm in Europe on tour, and I get up and my mom keep calling me. I'm like, what's going on? She's like,

did you hear what the President said about you? So the correspondents dinner with him, and Trump had those words. He said, my first term, I went without green. My second term, I'm going with young z Z. So that was his way of giving me a little shout out because I forgot that my best friend used to be meat and I used to be. I'm saying, so I can't, I can't just stand beside you and you know and co signed you. So shout out to Barack Obama for that, and he still owes me a conversation, by the way.

So I'm gonna just put that on out there. And I've seen a lot. I've seen a lot of people at the White House. My man Rick Ross had a leg monitor. I'm like, what the hell is going on? I got a clean slate ung in there? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, did that be hard Obama? What's what's this? What's his name? They called him? What's his nickname? Barry? Barry bring your assid drink Camps. I'm working with divided and Barries just

makes you a yeah. Yeah. You guys hosting that day, you had like a political show, like you was wearing turtlenecks and all that. Yeah, it was interviewing house. Like I said, Jesus you loafs. Yeah, taking it there? So what what was it? What was it? What was you? You was doing your black Chuckerson. I just think you so what it is? Don't you know what it is?

Don't know? Like when you get knowledge from other people and you just start to understand your position in it, I'm gonna go all in, like I'm not a half for your person. But when I felt like I was helping the coach and helping the people, I'm gonna do that. You know what I'm saying, Whether you ran or walking, I'm with you, whatever I could do. But then I started to get in and realize, you know, the politics is like the craziest things ever You never it's worth. Yeah,

it's worse than wrap. Yeah yeah, because I mean other than different prisons. But you nobody's ever telling you the truth. You know what I'm saying, Like it no matter where you're staying, it's not right. You know what I'm saying, It's just not right. And I still support people here and there, but I don't try to go I don't do the loafers no more for them, it's the state

matter whatever. I'm not doing that. But you know it hurt my feelings because my people trust me, you know what I'm saying, Like when I'm going to these hoods and knocking door the door to get people to vote and doing all these things, like they trust me. They're

like yo jeezy, Like yeah, I'm gonna vote. So it's just like, you know, even with Biden, like it was just tricky for me because it's just I just know all the things he promised, but then I have to rein myself that there's no one man that can help everybody. I can't even help everybody around me. So it's just like you almost setting yourself up fulfilling because you have expectations, you know what I'm saying. I'm saying it's like that

woman in that White House isn't really controlling. No, he's not even telling the people, you know, it's more so he walked. It's a different thing. He might need some of them zeesy local little medical No, but no one's seen this for this where they're like, was the president of the right? He clearly he just goes the math footage of him shake hands and nobody Yeah yeah, yeah,

looks like you're not. I mean, clearly it's not I mean at this point, but it would be able to see Kamala Harris, like you know what I mean, I'm not saying I'm wish it and then oh night seeing her be the first Yeah, like the one person. I do feel like it's genuine, know, if I'm honest, it's like, I don't know why, but just every time I ever been in the president so just even had something for her team, it's Michelle Obama President. Feel like she's like

she get it right, you know what? Yeah, she like you know what I mean, it's just like you know, when you see a woman that's really like you know, and and by the way, like mont I get the Rocks PROCs too, because it's like, it's hard to be the first the first black president and the most powerful man in the world. What do you have to go through to get to that? Not even that you don't have no scandal, No, ain't no, ain't no scandal. And props to Michelle for that as well. Yeah, he probably

knows she don't play. But yeah, and that's probably why she's so real because she wouldn't run in that field because she knows she don't want to be a part of that part of that. Yeah, I mean, I ain't gonna lie to I kind of because my man wouldn't. They're looking, you know, he came out Yeah great, Yeah, yeah, I don't what's that? Don't know. But at the end of the day, like if you kind of look at the history, you know, you exclude Barack Obama only because

he handled himself presidentally and as a high value black man. Um, who's really who really done it? Like? Who really done it for us? Like? Who who do you feel has been the best president? I would say when when Reagan was in, they say the streets was cracking through, but that was illegally through. But then he just started the war on drugs too. Yeah, again and again, I was told. I was told one thing. You know what I'm saying,

we can go, you know, back and forth. But I was told one thing very young, you never talked to people about religion and politics. You know what I mean? For me, I just social media blew that up and everybody just like Sleepless the movies. Yeah, what is it called sleepless the movies? The movie? Um, sleepless sleepers. You know I learned that about being locked up? Yeah yeah, yeah, that's the most drop. The first you don't talk about talk about religion politics But Atlanta, right though, I know,

but this is a political question. I feel like Atlanta should be the first city were like killing Mike is the the governor, Jesus, the fucking mayor, city council smoke. But contrary to people's beliefs. Killer Mike is one of the most intelligent Black man I've ever talked. He's encyclopedia. He's like he knows his ship. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. And he's solid, we know that. But he knows anything historical about any government. He's consistent with That's

who he is. Um. But at the end of the day, like we don't try everything else. So I think, so, I know, I feel like he should running at this. Yeah. I feel like I feel like Killer Mike could be the mayor of Atlanta. You know how dope is that to be like the mayor of killer I'm going out there. I'm getting apartment just about right to be there. I love Atlanta or Atlanta is the only place where you can come from anywhere and be anybody you want to be.

It's so much opportunity there, um, and I think that's what makes it special, you know what I'm saying. So I wouldn't be surprised if one day we look up and it's something like that. But you ain't in the policy, man, I got, I got. I'm too honest, man, I'm gonna tell the truth. You know what I'm saying. It's gonna work. You know what I'm saying. I can't lie. You know, I'm always be transparent, so and I wouldn't even want

that burden. I feel like what I do um in real life, it's a little bit of that because I could touch those people when a lot of people can't, and they trust me, you know what I'm saying, because of my anteguty and my values and my morals, but also being jeezy like who I am, I can get anything done in my city, you know what I'm saying. I'm saying, and I'd rather had that because I don't

need no Grammys and wars and none of that. But as long as I got respect and I can move around my seat and people treat me like it's such as somebody that really put in work, and somebody's out here really thriving and striving and show people that what you can do, and that's all I need. I think being a politician would make you totally like you have to choose between the money and the people. I don't ever want to be in that situationause I'm always gonna

chose people. Well, do you see this like new Black preachers, these niggas hood yeah, they got better than us. Rose Races. He had nothing in his closet. You know, he's opress. He's an impressed run like it's crazy like that. They have a press conference. You hear the press comperence and all that. We like this, it's ship is different now. But like the music, jeez, I'm not gonna lie to you.

I didn't when when I'm sitting around with the young homies and they're breaking down me this new music or what's going on, and these guys basically telling on themselves. Like if you notice when we was making music like that, there was no names being mentioned, there was no blocks. It was like we're saying pretty much your imagination, you

take the rest of it. They're not like that right now. There. Well, well let me say this because in the beginning I went through a lot of that too, because I was I'm not a carpenter, I'm not a mechanic, I'm not a roofer. I can't tell you nothing about those things. But I am a hustling. I come from the streets, you know what I'm saying. But when I was telling people what I was experiencing, what I was going through,

it kind of felt like Drossnitch. I'm saying it wasn't because original Gangster Rapp would would have been like they say, it's a cautionary time. Well when you say hit the bricks, hit the lights, will they go to bricks? You know some people still has that like that, you know what I'm saying. So, but for me, it was my truth. And then you know, I think a lot of the things that I was saying, the guys who were already up,

they felt it. But a lot of the guys who was trying to come up, like damn, like basically you're giving them the blueprint. But it was about survival for me, you know what I'm saying. That's all I really knew, you know what I'm saying. So it was nothing that's I can really say, Like I couldn't what I was

gonna talk about, like I'm not. That's funny as hell because my first album, The War Report, after that, people had to come to me and say, you know, you could imagine some of this ship like you know, I didn't have to. You didn't imagine it. I didn't mean what you knew about that. I swear to God, Patchwork Studio the same thing. But I never forget. I'm working on thug motivation. T I comes to the studio, I'm sitting in the studio. He'll tell you if you have

something accent, you know, I'm doing my thug thing. I probably got about two point five in the booth sitting with me. I'm sitting, I got the machine going everything, and I never forget. He came in there where I was, and he looked in. He's like, you know, Ledge was second. So he took me in the hallway. We walked in the bathroom. I'm like, we're in the bathroom. I just

want to talk to you. You know how Tip is EI look under the stalls and everything likes and he goes, yo, you know you can't do both, right, Like what do you mean? He's like, you can't wrap and do what you're doing, because he said, and you're talented, you're gonna you're gonna blow at some point. And if you continue to do what you're doing, you know what I'm saying, I don't know how it's gonna work out for you.

And I looked at him and say, with ship, but don't you do both because you're like you the rubber bandman. It's like, hell, no, you know, I left that alone a long time ago, and for me, it was like that was a real wake up call, you know what I'm saying, because I remember shortly after that, you know, I was having a lot of nightmares about you know, just trying to make it and this is one last thing. And I got caught up. And you know, I was losing a lot of weight because at the time Thud

Motivation was coming out. You know, everybody started getting indicted and going to prison, like especially everybody was hanging out with So it's like a real dark time and I'm drinking, I'm smoking. My mind ain't clear, you know what I'm saying. So I'm doing I'm I'm having a lot of mistakes. And I just remember T was voicing my head saying that, and I remember I had this. I had like these

two next tell phones, these churchs. It was like the photons, you know what I'm saying saying, And I rolled down the street one day and just do them out the window. I was done. That's like I was. I was like done. When I would see people in the street, they're like yo, and then owe your money coming, I'm like, no, you

wan't mean nothing. Keep that I'm saying, live your life, I'm gonna do this, And it was so funny that people that I was really trying to be a rapper, like you wouldn't know how many homies laughed at me. I thought it was funny. And I never forget when I got that first deal and I got that first when them boys came on the radio, and then I was yeah, I was warming up and everything was happening. It was god, man, because there it wasn't me, you

know what I'm saying. I wasn't doing anything different. I was just sticking to my guns and doing what I love. But it was all starting to happen. And the minute everybody started getting indicted it when I started blowing up, and it was like the craziest thing ever. Bro. It's just like I was like that, I'm supposed to be here, you know what I'm saying, and you know, shout out to that man, shout out to the big homie. Actually, so no, no, no, this is something even ella um

I want to take a shot to it too. Woh. But g Herbo just dropped the album from the Vibers or More Yes, and it's something that's very very real, real because we all deal with that, because I'm sure you was a part of a bunch of different people. You're one of the thirty that probably made it, one of the hundreds that probably made it. At me, I just want to award right, that's right, don't forget that. And it was weird to me because I got a lot of calls. I got a lot of unnecessary calls

that I never got before. And it started to start the dawn on me that it's like, damn, some of these calls I actually take because I have survivor's remorse. I'm like, damn, this guy, whatever be in my position, this guy. So this guy asked me for something I love. Yeah, yeah, I'm doing it. But I'm like, damn, this is too much for me. Have you ever dealt with that? Man? That's my whole story. You got stressed. I'm gonna take a shop for that. Come on, you should have seen

your own face? Are solo sulo? I made At one point, I had my whole neighborhood living in my house. Jesus, my first man and I had my whole neighborhood lived. There was an open door, sixty seventy people in at the time. You know, what I'm saying. It was loose Jesus, Yes,

yeah I was. I was, but but I just felt like when you from the hood, you really want to go to take everybody, put everybody on that was my and then um, you know, and as you start paying the law suits and things are happening, things are coming up missing, and nobody's taking responsibility. Everything is on you. You know what I'm saying, You're just like, wow, you

know what I'm saying. You bound, people calls about watches, people passing on your toilet, all that ship, you know, and you're coming in and it's just like you still feel alone, you know what I'm saying. And then you know, I have a gift of being able to visualize where I need to be and what's the best way to get there from A to C without compromising my integrity, And every time I took a step towards that, I would see how people around me would react, you know

what I'm saying. And it's just like, as the money start coming in, you know what money now, it's like you like everyone. Yeah, everyone's saying like almost like you like food, because you can't go by just for yourself without making sure you know what I'm saying, Like so it would be that way, and then it just went on for so long, like years and years and years,

and I'm like, yo, what's going on. It was the last time that I got locked up in l A on tour, and I remember just had my a year old daughter and I got locked up on the Whiskalifa tour on the murder. They tried to put on me that I had they found the gun and your toy bus or something. Yeah, I found several, but none of them had my finger prints on. Right, So now I'm in the l A County jail and I ain't nobody taking care of my people, you know what I'm saying.

I got ten people with me. It's a million dollar bill for everybody that women. They wanted to let you go. I think they came. They came to get me out, But I'm like, these people that are with me, they're not criminals. This is my staff. So of course I don't want to tell nobody how to get my paper, but I don't want to lead him here. So I stayed in there until I was able to well, I went out right and get everybody out the way we came in. But what I noticed is when I came out,

I was mad at the world. I was depressed, I was angry, and I was really angry at the people that was with me because nobody did anything for the people I love. And that's when I made the decision that which was the hardest decision in my life, as I'm gonna walk alone, and that's what you're talking about.

And every since then, it's just like it's me. Of course, I got people around me that I love, and you know, my staff and people that work with me and the people that I employed because we had the same vision. But as far just keeping people around the safe face, I can't do that anymore. Can that bring too much bad energy? And it's just like I don't need bad energy. Well, what I'm trying to do with my life, it's just like, you don't want that. And I feel g Herber because

he's a kid from Chicago. It's going through some real things. You can tell that he's beyond the star. Yeah, so he's only said his knowledge is crazy. And when I started being around people that, you know, they really wanted to see me win or connect me with people that I really couldn't get in the room with That's when I started to see like, oh, there are people out there in the world. They're good people. You know what

I'm saying, They're good people. Know what I'm saying, Like, I don't want to be nowhere in the situation from man, I got to sleep with two clocks, you know what I'm saying. Because the homies down still, I don't know what I'm like, you know what i mean, feel away about this or that, and I love my I love my my own boys. But it's just like we didn't have the same vision. We didn't want to be the

same place. My palette is different, like yeah, like yeah, I'm with you, with you, So it's just like now you're weird, like different music now, you know what I'm saying. I'm like getting up in the store listening. It's just like he's bucking you know what I'm saying. You know, So now I'm I'm eating healthy, I'm taking care of myself. I lost sixty pounds. You know, where's all the gangsters in the front row? Now is women throwing pantis at me?

I ain't going back, you know what I'm saying. I'm like, yo, this is it. And it wasn't until so imagine everything everybody at work I put out into the recession. It's when I told myself that you're still free, you're still alive, You're ad meant to be you'd meant to be a star. And that's when I started kind of sitting the access. But then when I got to what happened in um the Bay, that's when I really said, I'm not even

gonna try to save face anymore. You know, I love y'all, and I can take care of people from a distance. You don't have to be with me every day for you to feel to love because we're not on the same path, you know what I'm saying. And that's that was the realization. And I'm not disrespect to anyone because I love everyone. But that's when my piece began. You know what I'm saying. I can see it. And if

people love you, they want you to grow. Yeah, but then sometimes people are scared if you go, you're gonna leave the maham. You know what I'm saying, And that's like the most dangerous. That's why I think real Fresh ain't here. God what I'm saying, that's why Vonne ain't here. You know what I'm saying, that's why Adobe ain't here, That's why they're not That's why two PACs not you what I'm saying, that's why Big is not here, like

because somebody was like, no, you can't go. You know what I'm saying, You really just think, I mean, come on, that's why Nipcy Hustle ain't here. Think about that. Hussle ain't do nothing but good. But he stayed in the hood, invested in his own book. There that felt like, I don't want to see you go anything. Try to lead by example, right, And that was that. But we spoke about our presidents black and what we did touch on is that nozzles on that record, Yes, but at one

point now have at least the album called Dead. At this time, Atlanta is at the top of the motherfucker So I knew what Naz was insinuating. But he was saying, you know, the ethics of hip hop, but Atlanta being so at the forefront of the game, it almost felt like Atlanta. This shot was directed towards Atlanta, and you was wanting to as a whole with two stories. I met a nas in one twelve bathroom, just bathroom. I was in there with all my change, A lot of

bathroom stories. Yeah, no, no, Once twelve the club's historical, and I met him in the bathroom, you know, bathroom the thing saying I'm not your jeez, You're like, yeah, what's up? But I kind of felt like, you know what I'm saying, Like you give me what I wanted, you know what I'm saying. So I was like, oh, you don't know me, So i'mnna use that for motivation. So when I finally got on, I'm on death to him on the same I think it was on death him at the time, I'm on the same label you

on and I'm popping. So when I heard hip hop is dead, I immediately felt like, you know, like you basically saying because I'm on now, right, So they baited me in there's what do you think about? What he's said? Was like, ain't never bust this gun. I'm just going in. But I don't even know him, you know what I'm saying. And the craziest thing is there's a lot of people in this game that I don't have respect for because

it's all of aacide. It's all about the money, it's all about the cloud, it's all about you know what they want you to believe. But the more conversations nas than I had, I feel like he's hip hop's a leap because he is the big home. But how does this conversation start from you disagreeing with his state? Because how you handle me? He called me? He said, Yo, what's up? You know? He called me, so so you go go crazy on on my phone? So calm. I was ready to go to war, but I was ready

for him to say something crazy. I just couldn't wait, he said. He said, what's up? King? He said peace? King? I said, you know what's going on? He was like, I can understand why you feel the way you feel, and they just kind of walked me through with his thought process as wool and I feel so crazy on that phone. You know what I'm saying by the top of guys like yeah, you know I love your music. That's what I'm saying. We all to do a song together one day, you know. He was like, yeah, no,

whatever you want. And when I called him for my president is black, he said, I got you. He sent that ship back and like and like and pulled up in Atlanta in the hood by himself with his driver to shoot the video and everything that I've ever done in life that was an accomplishment for me. It's like a top five people that give me a call. One is whole, the other one is not. He always he just he hit me the other days like peace King, that's it, you know what I'm saying. Or peace King,

I see, that's it. And and to me, that's what leading by leadership is about, because if he would have got on my level and match my energy, who knows what, but not even just it being all bad, he would have still something me to make me be like that the next young cats say something about me the water right. So now I'm like, oh, yeah, you're not jumping him, not jumping at you forced you not to jump at like Freddy Gives or somebody else, because now I understand

the frustration. You know what I'm saying. I'm saying, like ivery we all want to be on, we all want to be important, we all want to be a significant we all know we tellent. I told Freddy to give that the day one bro you got you don't even need me. Actually I'm in your way, but I'm gonna be honest, but I'm in your way, but I got too many issues out here. I got bad things that I need to iron out because I haven't been there. I haven't been the coolest guy with a lot of

these exects. You know, I'm getting the business. So I'm still going off of my past or where I don't check these people and they never forgotten. Not in position is the powerty like I'm not giving him to deal, you know what I'm saying. So it's like I'm hurting you. I'm in your way. You got it and he did that. You don't look at it right. So let let me. You gotta record with Kendrick and J Cole, Kendrick and j Cole, Remember I got I got. Kendrick is on there.

Jay Cole is on there. Okay, So Kendrick is my man um. Shout out to Kendrick, he's my guy. Jake Coles my guy as well. And I shot Jake cooler text sent them the record and he loved it and he did it. I was trying to get Kendrick to rap on the record, but he said he didn't feel it like that, so he would do the hook and uh, bread to something what he did and he did it, and I put it together and I was like, wow, you know because again you know for me, this is

too hottest young boys. Yeah, now you're the O G right And how did you get that? Though? I mean, I just I think I out of just out of respect, you know what I'm saying. I just think out of respect and and and people seeing your visions as well, you know what I'm saying. Like, remember Kendrick hit me about when his records early on. You see Kendrick new dance and he did on stage, Yeah music, man, make it feel you know, I felt they do. This is a bigger It's just I can't move like he killed it.

He felt like a South siddle you can put music right there right looking like yeah, Now, I just I think it's out of respect. I mean even Andre three thousand when I we stopped tuning for I do know Andre don't really do feature and he was just like, yeah, send it, knock it out. Can't pay, Andre, you can't pay. It's not about And even when he came out to do my tenure anniversary show, and he came out, it was like seeing a unicorn. And I remember the greatest

thing I remember unicorn. I remember seeing him. I was twice so for the song. I'm coming downstairs Mr season l a the hotel and he said the elevator, like, Dre, what's going on? Said and talk fifteen minutes. I got this record. He should send it to me, knocks it out. This is like fast for or four years later, I'm at the same hotel. I'm in a lobby. He's coming down the elevator. I'm like, yo, he had a good talk. No,

he had a flute. I think that that and he said, Um, I said, your dream doing this tenure anniversary next week. I would love for you to come out. He said, give me a number. I'll call you. He called me the day before. He's like, I talked to my homies. They said I should do this. I said, Yo, you gotta come. I had Yeah, I had Um, I had Yeah, I had dre um. The list goes on. It was crazy and he's like, yeah, I'll do it. He came and Drake no, yeah, and Okay, okay, Dre and you

know boys in the hood. It's crazy. So my ten university. He came. He rocked when he walked out. Bro, It's like, I think people it took people at least a couple of minutes to realize, yeah, he's and it was crazy because he wanted to mate with the cord. You know

what I'm saying, like you wanted. That happened to me twice in my carid because when I was on when I was on a Blueprint three tour with JA, we had Madison Square Garden, right, and all you heard on the radio is about little Wayne going to jail for his gun chars. That's all you heard, right. So I already had Drake and I had Nicki Minas to come out on my set right coming into London Hotel in New York, and guess who's on the elevator Wayne, And I said, damn man, I thought you had to turn

yourself in today. He said, you never believe this. The courthouse flooded, So I gotta turn myself in tomorrow. I said, you gotta come out tonight on my set. He said, bat I'm there. So I bring Nicki Minaj out during my set. I know because I remember Jake peeking behind the curtains like what the hell because I'm me JA on tour. But I come out in the middle of Jay said and do my set and he comes back out. Remember j peek behind the courage, like, what the hell

is going on out there? So I brought a Nick him in outs first, and then I brought out Drake, and then me and I brought Wayne out and we did I'm going in with Drake. And when Wayne came out there, man, the whole building was just like it was the crazies shit I've seen like as far as shows, and I was just like, damn, But the whole thing was everybody in New York thought he was in jail. Yeah,

You's what I'm saying. The elevator is important. If you said, somebody come out of the elevator, you know, go ahead make that. You know what I mean. Terrible, But you got look at the names you're listing. It's like anybody's top five. You got Wayne Kendrick that you didn't work with. I would love. I would have loved work with Pocket before he passed. But the only other person I wouldn't want to work with this shot there. Yeah, because I always Maxwell was one. But one day I was in

New York and I was just hanging out. I mean Maxwell, I got real cool. He just came pull up on me the studio and we did this record out of the Blue recorded the song and it's on one of my drives I've been looking for for like six years. You put it out, no, So I'm telling when I find that drive, I'm putting it out. But me and Maxwell got a record. He was one of the ones I wanted to do something, but sho and did you have a chord? The verses in the talk together, I

just feel like Maxwell lace versus. Actually he laid his versus in the control room. He wanted up mike with a chord, and he's sitting there like he's performing. Okay, that's all. So yeah, I knew it was gonna be yea. But yeah, No, I had an amazing run. Like I feel like, and I'm just getting started. I feel like that even when I think about all the stuff me and Hovid done, and then's not just because it's top tier.

It's just because we we got things that you know, people don't have, like meaning like we got history and our records and any that I've done a record with. You know, you take um, Kanye, you take hold, you take um. I mean you name it what I'm saying, dirt Drake Nas. It was always a point where we pushed the envelope a little bit and it made, you know,

just something that was legendary. So I'm very happy about that because again, I didn't come into the game to be a rapper, right, I was trying to be a CEO. And now you're at the top, right. Yeah. And it's been times where, you know, I've been in the studio with people and I'm just like, yo, how on the hell?

You know what I'm saying? Am I gonna And that's my best work because I've been with Jay you know, doing seen it all and you know, you see jay Z in the studio, they ain't you know what I'm saying, It's different even Ross. Yeah, but let's go to better believe it feature in boos Oh man, we just had Booty. Let's not even talk about the song, justence the experience boost is one of the kind of by yes, yes, we noticed, right. And I really respect Boosey's perspective because

that's where aunts and Uncle's taught us. He's never forgot that though, you know what I'm saying, Like he understands that's what it is. And probably because he's so and this I'm gonna say this wrong. What y'all gonna mean what I said, Boosey reminds me of the fly that you know, the thing, the thing that when we go to your grandma house, she got the thing on the coming from the ceiling to get the f and the leather sofa, the plastic plastic on the sofa. It's old

school moral. Listen, first of all. And I'm not saying because you know, I'm not preaching violence or whatever when I don't got Boosey called me when Boosey first Well, two things that I was with him when he first got out the last time he got out, and then he called on me when we did better believe it to come to bad Ruge. Well, he actually called me before that. I was head of the Texas or something, and he was doing a giveaway for some kids, and I told my tour bus driver to turn the bus around.

We drove Baton Rouge and I went out there and um with him and gave away bicycles and all that. So that's how I knew how and bet he was in the community. That's that's who he is. Like he got a great heart. Um. But when we did better believe it, I came down and I stayed in this hotel in Bad Rules. If you know anything about Bad Ruge, I'm like, I'm a five star guy. I'm like, whole

ship in the room service like what we're doing. And I go there and we do the video, and this is the first time I've ever seen an extend the clips. Every little guy that was with Boosey had him hanging out of his pocket, and I'm just like, what is that? You know what I'm saying, Like, what's going on? He pulled it out. I was like, oh, ship, you know what I'm saying. So I was just like, so that's

the first thing I noticed about him. You don't got no security, it's just those little guys to be with him. But then what I immediately noticed was the type of respect that he had where he's from. This movie is just like a dot of battery, bro. Like I'm talking about like he's presidential. And we go do the video. Video goes well, So now I'm in Baton Rouge. There's no flight leaving out, so i gotta stay tonight. So what you're gonna do when you're in Bad Rules? He's like,

let's go to the club. I'm like, yeah, bad come pick me up. So they come pick me up about ten fifteen cars deep, so I might be going to the club. I got my jewels. Oh my smell good. You know what I'm saying. I think we're about to go hit it. We pull up in front of a house. It's a million cars at this house. Went to a house party, bad roof, but this is the club. So we're talking this house. We're walking to this house. There's no lie. We're walking to this house and it's cracking.

Do you walk through the house? Then you get to the backyard and that's where the club is at. So it's in the backyard in a fence, got a picture, booth, ball everybody out there. It's crazy club. It's the house though. It's like you're going to the house in the neighborhood, but that's the club. I'm just sitting around like, oh ship, Like this is the club. So we went in there, we had it, we lit up, we had a great time. And then, um, I don't forget. I told Booty when

he got into trouble. I was like, yo, bro, you gotta get out of bad rules because it's like, really, you're too big, you know what I'm saying. And I think the last time he got in trouble. We talked, you know, I just remember him moving to Atlanta. So I'm just really happy that he got itself out of the situation because he was what it was in my eyes. I don't even know if he see it the same way.

He's too powerful there and there was he said it though, he said most rappers get murdered, and they said that that's the reason why he got out of his own But I only think that. I think it was with law enforcement. He was too powerful and they wasn't gonna let that going for long. Because it was the last time I talked to Booty, he was like, he wrote me a letter and he said they was trying to give him the death penalty. So imagine you're reading the letter.

You're sitting there and it's just like, yo, you know, this is what I'm going through, you know, and they're giving me the death pendal tea know, I'm just like, damn, like you know what I'm saying. So shout out to Booty for making it out of that. Let's take this whole you know what I'm saying, sh shid of for you know, getting back on his feet. You know what I'm saying, doing how to really was do it? Yeah? That was beautiful. I'll be okay man, welcome back. Yeah sir,

when when when when did you? Um? What was that recket? But like who was your my friend? I mean it was like I did it for I did it and then I put on the mixtape as well, and it blew from there as well. Um, it was me, him and Webby and I just always knew that bumb and Pempsey had a real love for them, you know what

I'm saying. And they had this whole chipling circuit thing on lock where they was like it was booked like every day of the week, and even when they came through town, it's just like every hood, every ghetto there was out, you know what I'm saying. We called at one point though he did Yeah, he said it wasn't even the same time zone, right. Yeah. I didn't never understand. Yeah I didn't. I didn't understand that either. I knew Bun, but I didn't know Pimpantill. Ok. Yeah, I knew Bun.

I didn't know Pimp until we got out and when we did get throwed with me him and jay Z okay, right, and then everything was worked out. I mean it wouldn't. I didn't. I didn't have an issue, right, right, right, you know what I'm saying. I just think a lot of the things that he was saying, people kind of thought he was talking about me, But um, but I didn't. I didn't know him, so I didn't. I didn't get that. It couldn't have been about you, right, I didn't like that. Well,

you know what, jeez, man, gonna be honest. Gave us every day. Man, I would like to take one more shot with you. Come on, let's do it hard, the hard no only Nori, yes yo, No, jeez man, I'm gonna be honest. Man, you're a legend. Your person that needs uh deserves to be my drink? Okay bad? Yeah, that watermelon? Um that needs to be respected. Uh, you paid your dudes, play the game right. You did everything you're supposed to do. We want to always salute you,

we want to always respect you. That's what our show is about. Now, everybody else want to give out flowers. Everybody else want to We've been doing that. We've been doing that. And because um, your story is beautiful, man, your story is a real one. Your story needs to be repeated. So when it's the official snow forky one back in my bag. Let's expect humber greatness. Man, I'm really happy about this because again it's just like me and drama. He's hosting this, so this is this is

he's hosting it. He's hosting it. Okay, you're gonna hear that good. That's all. And don't forget to check us on Patreon. Oh yeah, we hatreon dot com. Force Last Drink Champs. Let me just say something, Jess, when you do a non political podcast, we want to talk to you about it less because yeah, yeah, yeah, we want, we want, we want. We won't help you out less you help yourself. Yo, Man, you'll thank you all. Your whole crew was very professional, all of them. They can't

make sure they make sure the product was there. I love your whole crew, even down to the secutest cutity. Want to make sure you know what the walk. I love all that. I love all that because you know why. This is my last question. Do you move different now that all of these rappers are disappearing? I wouldn't say move different? Is then I moved? How I know how to move because I know nobody's exempt that. I'm never gonna I'm never gonna let nobody to sensitize me because

of my position. I know what it is. It's been that way since I jumped off the ports. Ain't nothing changed, you know what I'm saying, just a little more active. But I think God for being through the things that I went through on the street level, because I feel like that's what got me to where I'm at as far as you know, morals and not just flipping and doing crazy things. Of course, everybody got their you know,

their stuff. But what I'm saying it is like I think that's the best gift I ever received is survival. You know what I'm saying, and what you're saying, it makes a lot of sense because when you met me, I was living for survival. You know what I'm saying out of survival and the reason why it's so thin because now I'm living not love meaning that you know, I employed people, you know what I'm saying. They get a chance to live out their dreams. You know what

I'm saying. I I've accumulated things that you don't have to take no more shots, right what I'm saying. But um, it's differ living out a lot a lot of out of survival and and living out of love because just like I love what I do, I love my people, I love you know what I represent. You know, I love getting better, I love evolving, I love giving game.

You know what I'm saying. I love surviving. So it's just like, you know, it's it's it's a different world now, meaning that you know when I said skies a limit, you know that was half the truth. Ain't know, you know what I'm saying that that's it. You know what I'm saying, And now I see that more than ever. So it's just like, but however, I don't forget what I'm a child of, where I come from, the cloth

that I am, because that's what keeps me safe. And that's why I'm maybe to go in these places and be around these people. Because I I was in Detroit two days ago. I felt like I was home. You know what I'm saying on the block, you know, shout out to full one, you know, think of as Strathmore. But at the same time, I might head on the spiel was just like there us, you know what I'm saying. Because the police pull up, guess what, we're all together.

They don't care that I'm jeasy, I'm saying, right. But at the same time, I love that because that's the one thing that I have when I walk in the room and do business with these execs that they don't have. They don't got that. They don't got that natural instinct, they don't got that know how to survive. They don't got that off the top of the head, come up with a solution like like that you don't even think about.

They don't got that. Feelis um just feel its driving And it's just like when I sit in the room with him and we're doing these deals. They're doing a deal to get money. You know what I'm saying, That's cool. I'm doing these deals based off legacy, what I'm gonna leave behind and what's example? How can I how can I bought somebody up a part of my team? How can I make you the CEO? Now? How can I make you the CEO? Now? You know what I'm saying. How can I make you an A and al? Now?

How can I make you a artists? Now? You know what I'm saying. And by the time that's come out, I want to shout out to um the newest member of the family. Haiti, baby, we just signed him to CET. We just signed to def jams and shout out the hat baby superstar. He's going shout out to nod Well. Everything we got going shut up, shut up to and let me just tell you jeez. You know, um hold, I'm gonna take this to a little I'm gonna take then m hm. So I'm gonna tell you something. This

how Farrell into his interview. So I'm kind of in yours with this way for Rall knows me for a long time and me and he made history together. So looks and says, where's your wife had? And then he looks and he goes, he goes. His transition came for you, His transition came, he said, My transition came from her. And what I'm trying to say is I want to pick up your wife. I want to figure up show.

I know that they don't want to go to through family issues, but as a fan, as a married street dude, I want to salute you because I gotta give it a white belt props because you got a lot to do with that as well. So shut and that's it. Come on, let's let's wrap this motherfucker. Listen, I got I got I got fifty. More questions are in the promo, but goddamnit. Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs, hosted by Yours truly, d J E F and n O r E. Please make sure to follow

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