Episode 329 w/ B2K

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And when you talk about legends of legends, when we talk about groups, you know, sometimes I think of like you know, like that, like the like the I'm not saying this, I mean as far as impact, you know, like the Backstreet Boys and in Sync put together. If they were black mixed with the Jackson five and New Edition, you would get this group that I'm talking about. Hold on, let me let me bring up how many awards, because they got awards hits. Hold up, they ex se me

to complicated. They got fewer choice awards, Nickelodeon Kids Award, so training awards, they got all type of wards they were I come out when you talk about boy Man Wall. They got numerous hits and hits. I woke up last name, good for them. My one of my dear friends, Car that hit me to the to the day land, I said, Car that, and I'm going through the list and I just couldn't sleep because I'm listening to this. Just Cam, I remember that. Remember these niggas got hits after hits

after hits, and we're gonna show them they respect. We're gonna give them their flowers today. In case you don't know who then we're talking about to my books, little Fish and Raspby be too drink. Now, I ain't gona lie y'all. Niggas got some hits, bro, I was back like WHOA. So um, let's talk. Let's take it from the beginning, because obviously you know the elephant in the room is B two K was a four man group, right, So right now we have Beto K, but it's it's

a three man group. Well let's not let's not talk about the breakup or everything or anything like that right now, Let's talk about the beginning. How did y'all actually form together? How did BE two K become? Be took you gotta tell him? And then so I was I was eight years old and moms took me to a Black history expo and they had this group on stage and they reminded me of like Criss Cross. I was hell in

the Criss Cross. They have to inside out. No, they just had on big jersey okay, And um I was like, man, Mom, I want to watch him. I want to watch him. And she was like all right. So we sat there, we watched them, and then we left, and when we walked into this hallway, this lady came running up after my mom. She said, excuse me, excuse me, Oh my god, your son is so adorable. What's your name? I'm like Drew. She's like, do you wrap? Her sing? And I was like yeall rap and she was like okay, my mom

is looking like you wrap and I'm like yeah. She's like all right, well, um, let's take your info and yeah, this is like so she had me come to this, to this cred like basically audition. Um. And at the time it was two other members. It was Eneko's older brother and this other dude, that random singer, and that was the group for a minute. And we kept going through different members until I was twelve. So four years later, I'm not book Uh so then what happened? Telling us

what happened from there? Oh? Yeah, yeah, I was twelve. I was playing football at the time and my mom was babysitting the manager's niece and so I'm coming home from school getting ready for football practice. She picking up the little baby from the daycare, and she liked the same question. She asked him, like can you sing? Yeah? Can you dance? I've been dancing since I was probing. Yeah, Like I wanted your audition for this group. I mean, this the first thing I do when I walked in

the road. He walked in the sentence I'm a wrestler fan. I'm like, bro, you wanna watch wrestlers? Looking at me like this it's my group, right, you know what I'm saying. So audition for him? And uh they debated and it was like yeah, yeah, he cood he could be in a group or whatever. And then this comes from Ohio, y'all from l A. Yeah okay. And then he comes from the High he moved you moved to l A. Yeah, well Maca moved me to Cleveland. I was about from Cleveland.

I was about eight and a half months. So my cousin's Chris Stokes, who pretty much formed put the group together and I was like the the fifth member to get added to a group that was called Melodic, which is kind of awkward because you go, you know, you got four casts and I'm fifth guy. But you know, uh, my cousin has a relationship to the business. You know what I'm saying, previous success. It was able to give us opportunity opening up the doors for us. That group

was called there was melodic. It was he was the fifth member. Okay, you had to start in five Okay, so we've been there. So so then how did y'all how did how did this for him to be too? So we let performed. Were performed for every label you can think of this time. So we performed for every label they closed during our face like we messing with it. We got to Sony to Epic and we performed for them like three times, and he was like to keep performing.

Reform was they're gonna sign us, Like, what's up? Who's Who's the head of Epic at that time, David Fierson shout out to Max he was mask goose ran to play though he was he was the one that we're going to play and god damon fishing Man. So we went performed for them for the third time and they told us after the meeting that they were like, Yo, we liked these three, but these two look a little too old to being the group. We have much staster nothing.

They already looked like grown men. Who two, they come on Ko's older brother and now she and the other guy actually works for the company. To her, that's that's her manager, so Nick. So they started a whole another group called Final four and it was US three and Chris Stokes found on Marian through through his through his family year, so he came into play. And then we started performing again for every label. Now score y'all, yeah, okay,

and yeah still what was it called melodic? It was it was Boys next Door, Boys next Door being dut were performed for every label again. Nobody was rocking with us, um, and then we got to La Face. Baby Face Yeah and l A Read were performed for l A and he was like up in the air body. He didn't really know if he wanted to do it or not. But Little Silas was president at the time, Rest in peace, Little Key that he was fighting for us. He was like, no,

I'm gonna get him to sign y'all. So he called one day and was like, Yo, I got the deal done, but y'all need to change your name. And he said and we was like, well, what's what's the name? He was like, y'all should call yourselves be two k Boys of the New Millennium because it was right right now. Well, but I thought there's some call that that's kinda that's kind of crazy. So yeah, so that's how we got

the name. And then when Little passed away, our deal was out the table table, so l A Ree was like, no, I'm not I'm not rocking with it. Wow. Um. Every label pretty much felt like we needed a stronger vocalist, so we circled back around to Epic with Max Goose and Keep Mid. We did go around the industry like we did. The same run would be took that we did with Molotty to Motown. We did the same run again with the new group, and then that's what he

was saying. They were saying they still felt like we needed a stronger vocals. So I don't know if you remember the R and B group Third Story, third Story, a little bit they had. They had a lead singer's name was Ka Young, a little man, a little they called him little man at the time. So they presented putting him in the group. He got in a group for like my month. Yeah, we recorded a demo and we performed for for epic again and they said, we

still don't like it. It was like thing that happened with that is that like a drink, the very hold on. So they funded on you again. It's just the time they're funding on you. Yeah, okay, we need to get here. Yeah. And they asked, like our management at the time asked us like what y'all want to do? You know, like, and we was like, man, we don't want this nigger

in our group. He not like that. Like that. B K went from a lot of where we couldn't do what we wanted to do, like as performance, because the other two guys wasn't dancers like that, right, So we got oh in the group and no little Man yet and we are a dynamic performing like literally Destiny Child in the living room at the crib and they were like, yo, y'all are unbelievable. Stop stop the regular ship. You know, we can't move on. Hold on, hold stop right there,

Hold on? What the funk? How to get the performing Christ At the time, he um, he was doing business with Destiny Child, you know, the and Mature was producing and they produced a few records on they say my name to be clear for people that don't know. The Immature was to do with the patching the eye, right, that's the group of Like it was like ghetto boys

in reverse. This is really okay, let's let's yeah. So when was at the crib and they came Destinitely Child came by and it was like, yo, this is our new group, like we want them to perform for you. So we performed form in the living room. We might have had as much space as this table, and we was in there getting every step back, flipped everything. So so um, yeah, we were four shots lined up like acting like they don't know where we are. That's my

regular drink, but I think it's shot too. But the thing was, no drink, got a shout, you a drink. I gotta drink in a shot. That's how getting up going down? Crazy man. You know, can we celebrated speaking, We celebrate your career, kid, we celebrate y'all hit it out before we get this ship started. I watched that Chris Brown ship. Okay, I can't shoot that nigga was shooting them shots like it like that anytime I felt fun out after days the leak, I get it's a

crazy bash. So look, it wasn't that little up our group, you know what I'm saying. It's just that he bothered the performance aspect. We couldn't again go as you know, we just couldn't go as far as like the high performance because of his limitations in the dance world. You know, like I didn't sing. It wasn't busting back flips no more. Right now exactly, y'all recording music at the same time, the shopping demos was just auditions, the demos, everything, every

iteration of the group was recording new music. Yeah, full projects like packaging everything ready to go shop the working man. So um, we we did, We did that last performance. They didn't like it, and Max was like, I'm fighting. I'm gonna telling to just do it with with the four. And we was about to get dropped from our management. There was like, if y'all just don't get the deals over,

we're not working no more week. We gave you everything, like yeah, just nah, yeah, because I got I got pulled out of school right when I made the basketball team in high school. I didn't even get to go to the first practice. If I missed too many days, it was gonna kick me out. So I had to check myself out and redo the whole first semester of high school. Anyways, they said he Max said he was gonna fight for just the four. So he goes tossed

to Dave Dave Fiercing. He sets up in uh A performance Force in New York for Tommy Mantola and Polly Anthony. So this is it. We like drinking wine. No, no, he came in like like Tony soprano, alright, sounds So we get out there. We go to SR. Student. I noticed I don't like lying, but I we're in the building. A lot of a lot of niggas want to let go, you know. That's right, but let me go. Yes. So we go to sr Studios yesterday and we're like, yo, we this is it, Like we gotta we gotta put

on the show of our lifetime, you know. So he come in there, Polly is in there. She's like, we gotta wait on, Tommy. We gotta wait on. Tommy gets in there and we're looking at me like, how are you doing? Nice to meat, She's like, all right, go go perform. So hit up there We we do three songs. Were jumping on speakers, doing back flips, grinding on Polly Anthony, everything we could do. You know. We pulled out and we finished the last song. We were standing there. He

said it's done. I'm signing y'all and he walked out and we was like, yo, we gotta deal. We gotta deal. Like we was celebrating after that. We gotta take a shot to that. I ain't gonna lot of yet. I just feel like we got to take right. It's when your guys are so let me tell you myself. Come on, let's go, come on. I just just just stopped drinking, bro It's okay, were celebrating. It's not called drinking. Drinking is a whole nother thing. It's just cool celebrating. Yes, yes,

you coming, I'm coming, bro. I guess we all wash some little coop down. Y're good, y'all good, let's us to be quil. Did y'all see the verses? Yeah, of course everybody saw the verses. I thought it was amazing this guy, but stop kidding something, yeah, saying it was entertaining. Okay, so we're getting into the verses. I perform a watermelon before watermelon. No, that went until like the second millennium. Okay, cool, my bad you did you have done this second millennium?

Okay we went on? Okay, okay, so y'all think, y'all watch your verses. Let's let's tell U. I don't know. So if you asked them about the verses, we gotta start because we heard about it before. It was happy before the promo. We've been happy before we knew nobody, great jazz, close friends like Pleasure, p pretty Ricky. We fun with all of it. So they like yo versus y'all. Nick is showing up, y'all coming like they're trying to figure out what's up to get They set straight from me.

You see, if you're coming out with right, because that'd be a t cold out right coming out. I thought, I thought I saw y'all that's how crazy is so well, I think we came out like your highest game. That was like so we we um. We're like, yeah, yeah, we heard it, we heard about it. Um, you know, I don't know. We don't know what's up yet, right, Like y'all, y'all should come out with me. I'll bring y'all out. That's right, right, I'll bring y'all out. Jump

on the line with me really quick. Let's let's go viral. So we're like, it's just waiting to hear here's something you feel me like. If nothing cool, you know, go do your thing. We get a call. I feel like I should call Max Goose right now, call Max Goose, call this now. We believe you because with the story keep going. We get back to him. He has schools calls us and he's like, yo, um, what y'all feel about doing versus? And he was like in the Mari

doing versus. He's like, yeah, like what y'all feel about coming? Maybe do a couple of songs with him? Be okay. It was like it's a conversation you know we to talk about the business, right, you know what I mean? It's why not? Now keep in mind, He's like, I'm working on placing Olds new music at a label, and I heard that y'all was talking about possibly doing album as the three. That's what It would be a great moment to show y'all reconssile. He could get the push

for his new album. Y'all could get the clarity that y'all doing the albumashs to three, and it would be like a cool little premier for everything, you know what I'm saying. All Right, So he's like, you know, Michelle's food with it, which is Olds manager. Okay, we like work because you know, every time we hear back from her, it's like flat, like who okay, okay, So like you know what we'll get. We'll jump on the car. Let's talk about it. So we get on the car the

next day, us three, Max and Michelle. I want to talk to us for some reason. You know, it's been like this now, it's been like this for Sis the group was broken up. It's been like this. Um. So we're all on the phone and Max says the play and she goes, so you want me to go back to Amari and asked him to share his versus stage with B two K to do bump bump bump, and

We're like, absolutely not. I had an energet right there and said, who said you got on the phone thinking she was thinking that the whole thing was that we had contacted match, Like, Yo, Max, we heard Oh I was doing the verses? Can we get a piece of that? You know what I'm saying stage, It'll makes sense for him, it makes sense for us. And she likes, so y'all want me to go back and talk to Oh and tell him that y'all want to come and perform with him on his verses. And I'm like, wait, wait, wait,

na na, that ship ain't like that. Let me clarify. Max just called us and asked us part with you trying to get done and to give y'all more. Would we be interested? Would we be up to support his battle a James Mario and come out and give him a cheek cold you know what I say? And so we let her know, like when you go talk to him, don't come at it like we're asking him to perform for him. To let him know so hopefully he can perceive it. Properly. You know what I'm saying, that his

management came up with this idea. The guy is trying to place his music, came up with this idea for the benefit of him, not us coming and say yo, broken, we get like five minutes out of your verses broke as we're trying to do something that you know what I'm saying. So it was like, in mind you, Max said Michelle's cool with it, meaning that on man when we got on this call. So now it's because clear I wos Max schools Max Okay, Okay, yeah, yeah, people you know, I know people you know he said she

was cool with it. She got on the call acting as if she had no idea what the call was about. But it was like, yo, you got on the call. You knew what this was about from the chump. So she goes, well, it's unfortunate that I sound like a broken record, but I can't bring any B two K opportunities to Marie until you got signed them on past business.

So we did a whole millennium to it. Right, everybody had cameras, you know, we all had cameras recording backstage and I'm taking a shot taking the show and everything. I'm taking the shot for y'alls is real. Ain't gonna lie. This is real. Like I thought rappers go through it, I had no Yeah, continue, sir. So we all, you know, like I said, got cameras and everything, and we're using our footage and posting it on Instagram, you know, doing little stuff for you too. Because it was discussed, I

always gotta go. I'm like, I'm like the lawyer. I'm like, this ball, isn't it. We discussed that nobody was going to monetize off the footage that we was using, and if we decided to, we was gonna come together collectively and make the decision, you know, for the best of the group, you know what I'm saying. Also, you know, I've been on Love and Hip Hop for eight years now. So on the Scott Scott came in and she, you know, knew about the tour and I was filming at the time.

She's like, Yo, we wanna can we you know, try to do something with a documentary for the tour. Let's put something in play on his team come back. We don't want to do anything with MoMA Scott. So there goes that. So we're like, all right, we're not doing right for the two seasons. So we said, all right, well we're not doing a dot everybody just to have their footage. It was discussed that we could use the footage to promote the tour to generate more ticket sales.

That's what the footage was, Okay, okay to be used. It was clear to be used for that. You know what I mean? If you want to post something that was live from the show, a moment where fanded some crazy backstage fund moments with other artists on the tour, you know what I'm saying, promo for this? It was verbal agreement that we sat down winning we talked about you know what I'm saying, Okay, because I was saving this for later, right, but I just feel like we're

did right. It's just really like we're there, right. What was that an issue? You know? Because we heard the beginning that that was the important part, right of us just sitting there and talking about the beginning, Howard order Gain, What was that an issue of the brock? What was it? All? Right? So so now because I feel like you got was that a versus conversation because now we're gonna go fifteen

years back fifteed. This is alright because so literally so people that was under a rock because everyone sees love and hip hop and see that you were April and initially thinks that that is it, right, that's not it. We're saying years right over, blacks were on my seatbelt. Let's go, oh, fifteen years prior. We've been uh, we've been doing our thing now for three years. It's two thousand three and we just finished filming You Got sir. Okay, I'm dating Jennifer Freeman at the time, the lead girl

in the movie. We were supposed to be some noise. For that, I feel like continue, continue, so continue, make drink strong with you? Oh ship, I forgot I had a shot. Okay, Oh you ready for your I'm sorry, homie. She she also was a lead girl on our Girlfriend

video that Will Smith was in. That's Alexander lead. We had all the top dogs, right, so you know, she coming home at night after the movie like yo, you know your boys trying to howl at me type of things, like I'm pushing them off, like you know, like yo, I'm with I'm with it, you know, So I'm like, yeah, whatever, it's nothing. Me and old Ben had going back and forth for girls. You know what I'm saying. I was it was like, yeah, whatever that's gonna happen. You know,

did you knock it down? No? Um So, from that point we get on tour. We go straight from feeling the movie to screen to or three and we're headlining this tour Screams for three. Ye arenas already, so your poppy going on everywhere. And so we're on tour. It's a lot. You know, we're getting word of back home. I'm here, my girl is having parties and stuff. You feel me. So we all start doing our things on the tour. We're having fun. Now management you know, it's like, yo,

I'll go back to your rooms. You know, the Kobe ship just happened. They're trying to keep us safe. You feel me, so like, don't be Wally, get back to the room, keep your mistique, be a superstar. But you know, we still found our way to dancers rooms and ships like that. Then uh, I'm talking about r dancing your

own known in the background. I get it. So. Um So we're on the road and you know, we got the conversations about the third album Boom, and we're like, yo, you know we want jam to Pre to produce Aum, we want to work with him, and management is like, nah, nah, y'all gotta do something different, and we're like, oh why, I like, you know, like what's up. Then they hit us and like yeah, Marcus Houston first singles with Jamane

Dupre's like you just gave him that idea? Yeah, Like come on man, then this then this goes to yo, So y'all about to finish up the tour, y'all gotta do seven more like fair days like festivals. Okay, Um, so y'all could bring home some money. You know, y'all didn't make no money on this tour. Y'all went into y'all guarantee y'all gonna be mad when y'all get home because my new billy is gonna be here. I'm sorry, who's saying management? Okay? So I'm like, yo, it's it's

four of us, it's one of him. That's a hundred. That's where's our business. I'm taking a shot for your families. Where is my basiliny? So, right then and there on the bus, us four all speaking in confidence and feel we gotta come up with a plan. We gotta leave this situation movie. It's Jerry Hello. Did was like, we gotta we gotta get out of it, shout I know. So when we get to Kellie, we ain't going back to the houses that they brought us. We go to

our parents crib, chill, find a lawyer, figure this ship out. Well. We get back to l A and bug hit me. He like, bro, I need you to meet me at the crib. I need to grab some clothes. I'm running short. I'm like, all right, meet him up there, grab his clothes. We leave in the house. Old walks in. He's like, yo, what you're doing here. He's like, yeah, I'm about to go. I'm about to go to the movies with the boys. Were like what. He's like, yeah, I'm about to go

to the movie. We're like, nah, bro, that's not the plan, Like what are you doing? He like, man, y'all should talk to him. Y'all should just talk to him. And we're like nah, man, So we leave. So we read that a conversation, you know, y'allreel. So we leave and the next night. That night, we get a call from the production company telling us we got a meeting at the spot called Fat Effects downtown l a for Overseas two.

Get up the next morning, go down there. They seem a little weird and they're like moving fast and funny. They're like, yeah, we're gonna meet around the corner. We follow them around the corner to like some towyard truck field, like it's dirt as a book. Just got the cars from Like, bro, don't pull all the way in like you just got your ship. Wash. We hopped out this

hell of weird though. Get out of the car and they're like management and old standing right there in like a half circle, and they like, you want to start, You want to start, And then management like fucking this ship is all be two k so so rap that nigga right there, he's so low. All y'all wanted to do is come film record the rest of these songs. But you gotta start the soundtrack and do the videos. And that's it. We don't need nothing else from y'all. Okay,

come on, tell first of all, this is your cousin correct. Yeah, okay, wait, time on. Something had to happen. Come on, I'm getting to something. You wanted to read it. We wanted to read the O shade. We wanted to say, but okay, turn the truth. No, listen, we was on up where he was on the tour. We had a day, mind you week week we on these festivals. Straw broke the

camel's back. What's the strong at the festival? Out of stitching and we get some drinks store shot man, poor shot before it together, straw and throw the camel's back. I'm searching for the stroke all night. Let's go home, man, it's solottle solids, a little solid there you go? Ye say, So we get some drinks like we're doing right now. We so that and then we go to apple Bee's and we get some ward drinks and we're talking about the tour. We're just talking about everything that happened. Now.

Mind we all got a plan to leave. We together, We brothers. You feel me Like yeah, we're about to go get this bag now. So we're like yeah, nay, what was what was happening? I was like, man, I was smashing all smashing old girl the whole tour. I really liked her. Bro huh. And I'm like, bro, that's not your girl. Like what's up? You cool? Yeah man? And go to the bathroom, come back like all right, I'm talking about oh, grab his stomach, his girl. This

was a random ship. This was a random chick. It's a random that was role with us, somebody on the road with us in the room. So so when we got back, when we had this meeting in the dirt field and they tell us this ship is over, they go in to say, we know about y'all wanting to leave. We know about y'all wanting to get out of your deal and and do your own thing. I know about you fucking such and such. I'm like you a bit. You ask nigger whom saying that? That's management saying the ship.

So he didn't went back and told him everything we discussed about leaving them out was black. I was. He went back and us that the sitch and that's what I'm saying. That piece right there, it was like I'm telling so that was that. That's how that's how the ship originally ended. Right. And then we're still playing our part. We're doing our you got served parts in the studio. We're going to film the video we do to buy the boom video. Because he was right, Yeah, I got wet,

that's crazy, that's crazy. So um so after after after you got served, uh, we did all the video and everything. It was nothing else there. They basically a shelfter. We couldn't do nothing, but let me ask you. Let me ask you for one second, um, and I would like y'all, all three of y'all to be honest. Well, y'all really friends at one point, I mean, bro, we came. We literally each had nothing Like I grew up in the house with like eight people in a two bedroom apartment

on Slawson and Angeles Vista. He grew up on Tim five, He grew up in Compton. We literally like I didn't meet my dad until I was thirteen. I didn't have my dad. His dad was in and out. He didn't have his dad, Oh didn't know his dad. We had each other, right, you feel me? We was We was blowing out this ship to b K was because this is what I'm saying, right, all right, That's what I'm saying.

When you look at like stories like with with Moutan Klinton, right all right, they this is a norm fact that Ray and Ghost at some point had a problem, but they had other members who came in and kind of like try to fix it or try to do what they try to do. My thig is because it sounds like I'm just saying that as an outside of looking at like he blamed you for like sucking the random chick that that he had, right, so, but why would he take it out on these two? I could see

him being mad. I saw I saw the in the details. When he was having conversations about leaving management and they kept saying, he kept saying, Okay, solo artists make more money. Solo artists. Man, he had to Bobby Brown, he was always already a solo artist. I mean he said it from the job. Hes to tell us like, yo, don't tell that nigga nothing. Man, it's still like this. You know, oh has some success coming and sent through prior tess. Right, So he kind of felt like he always because he

won't Houston cousin right. No, No, he was like the market feel like of of the three of us, you know what I'm saying, And I feel like we all like locked in. You know, when we put Beach together, it was a group then, so it was all four, but we never hated on dude. If that was the case, we would have went with a little man in the group. But you feel me like, no, we was like na we wanted to be us for we don't want this nig in the group. So nobody ever hated on dude,

you feel me. It was hard for us for a long time to see, like, where is where is all the hate coming from? Crazy? He said that then they got shelved because then being your kid as a group was still signed. Exactly, He's gonna go solo. So now you'all gotta wait out the contract. Okay, but but let's

let's clear crazy. Let's but let's clarify shelf right because back then there was no streaming, there was no internet, there was no YouTube where people they want a lot of people call this on this show, they call it black ball. No, no, no, it's a different things, not ball. You explained to the people that now this I'm gonna tell you it wasn't black balled because after the group broke up and we were all out there do low, I met could to love and CoA love from up

above scooed me to the game. That's been my manager since then. Right, coulda got all type of relationship. You feel me. So I wasn't black balled, but it was nothing we could do contractually. Contractually. You know when B two K before our first album came out, David Fierson gave me a solo deal. Yeah, And so after the group was broken up, I still was signed to Sony and to TUG So I couldn't Couda couldn't do nothing

with me until we figured that out, you know. And years later then came to release, and then we had a situation where we talked to Sony with Lisa Ella. She just came in. He dave me Fierson was done. It was just a whole obstacle, you know, And then it was a whole new game. At that point, they wasn't messing with artists behind them. Another thing Homeless Colombia and all the people those players had new interests in

their artists they wanted to be responsible for. They didn't want to go like, you know, we incarnate any of the artists that they're crazy man. Yeah, yeah, are we reading for quick, Thomas Les. Let's get you know what You're gonna need you all to know that our show it's about giving people their flowers. So many people want to say how great you are. Something happened to me your cards and I want to say that while y'all live healthy And then your face. You know how great

y'all ave. We appreciate that. We got excited, man, you know, I mean my mad car Dad called me. I said, really, and we want to get your your flowers personally. Man, let's look yeah, yeah, and they we're gonna smoke up the worm and this is the other other flowers that. Hey, I want to say something too. I want to say something too, like, man, this is this is beautiful, you know what I'm saying. And I want the people to understand this straight up, no matter what's being said on

this platform right now discussing you know, other group. Remember, we're just talking about what happened. I'm saying. It's no matter if we come over here a little bit. If we're speaking about what happened, then there's gonna be some negativity in the story because we're talking and keeping it up. Honey, with you coming to present day, even if we fight, you feel me like we still love that nigga. You know what I'm saying. I'm gonna say that nigger, we

love you. And this is not for just this is not just up through He's just not here right now, but this ship is a part of him too. You know what I'm saying, I don't want to make sure that that's clear because we ain't hear the bash and

nigga that it's just sad thing. We gotta go through this ship in front of everybody, I mean, and as outside of looking in and seeing you know, because one year y'all came out exactly two THO worked the Red One, so I might see you fucking super super older than y'all. But I actually came out, which is only two years. I mean my solo. I was out for my group with my solo, so I got to see y'all like I got to see y'all. You remember the first time we met you? Goddamn it, No I go. I want

to sell I know, I know the story. I asked Cardi the studios because I don't remember the studio, but we were in New York, hit Factory fifty seven streets ahead. Let me take the story. So we got off the elevator and we started walking down the hall, and you was walking down with busting y'all was jeweled up. I was just looking at the chain. Oh I did see that chain. So we met you there and then we was recording uh, our remix, our gots to be remixed with DJ Clue, got to be. Next door was Nelly

and for Real and Cardi was there. We went Cardy for the first time and we and they was doing hot in here. Let's make some for that guy. So get back to my point, my back is that when I see y'all as a new group, I've never seen no break up. Like I've never seen any like kicking the arm. I don't know if y'all were like I don't want to say acting, or if this was the you know what I mean, But I'll see y'all as brothers, like you know what I'm saying, So like was it

was I? Was I fooled? Or what happened to it? It happened at the end. Let me say this, cool. You didn't see nothing that was faith. Okay, Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what there was the funk off who was still to this day because that conversation was always are set each other straight conversations. It wasn't always about just did you smash your chick? It was the moment of honesty amongst us for the matter management on

the outside of parents on the outside. We always had this unity of no matter who we lied to, no matter who we didn't keep you thrill with, nigga, we always came together damn me on the weekly. You know what I'm saying, because we lived upon each other, how much worker was doing to always be like, Bro, that ship you did yesterday, I didn't like that ship that she made me want to push you or you know what I'm saying, Like, Bro, did you see that chick there?

Like I hit that? You feel like we was locking room talking like so it's like when that moment in the in the in the hotel room, the fun that let's go right and then catch your favorite quit they boxed in the in the hotel, we was doing real brothership.

It was just so when that moment came, it was like one of them proud moments that you accomplished knocking her down, and it was like, I gotta tell you, niggas, we're having that conversation where you supposed to say that and so I said my ship he said it was saying that. Then that was fake, at least amongst to us. We didn't know that we had had seventeen tho those hawks, but that one straw broke the camel's back and we

didn't see it coming, so you didn't see nothing. We had talked about the millions and ships, bro, Like, we don't gotta go that far back, but you can tell you about when he dated a chick that Heat was working with, yeah, like for a year and then we did a tour and then he's seen her and then he started dating for three years, but he cared, I don't care. You know, I'm not with her no more. Y'all could be like partners. Y'all could be the ones

who should have met each other. Look neither here nor there nor for real, for real, because I know, like we're saying this ship but like the ship with April, Like, I made a lot of mistakes that I'm not happy with and that's one of them. Feel me so like I made amends with it. I apologized publicly. I knew I was wrong. I gotta live with that ship. I gotta hold that ill you funning. Let me let me ask the other two peoples, like, how did you let's go skill start with you? How did you feel when

you see him with April? Um? Wow, i'n'na sit up here in cap. I ain't go cap, I ain't go cap. I told you that he was scared this morning. I don't know what's going on, but do the public dragged? You know? I thought, you know, maybe there was some some some alice behind or some some some resentment maybe, but maybe I thought also they probably really hit it off, So you never know, because I know they've always did

and talked to each other's girls. So I was like, outside of looking at in it, so I kind of they always dated each other's girls. I mean they like they all kind of like dated each other's girls when they was younger, you know what I'm saying. So for me as an outside dated but I like the same, like said right, So as the outside of looking in, I wasn't really for sure, but it being his baby mother would kind of made you. It made you really look.

That's also that real close and the other cameras already down. It's another that stuff I'm saying like that, like this is a whole another camera. Yeah, because that camera already got broken. So he got a lot of straw know, how did you feel? How do you want to do? How you want to how you want? Dook? But Boot's been my best friend since the break up, since the everything he told how he feels. He told me not to do. You know, he was like, he asked me

if I did. I think I just please you need you because because your face, this president says you have to talk. Yes, because I came to this nigger bro, I said, ain't you gotta keep it a hunting woman. N I'm trying to do this too. I'm trying to do this ship. I'm just speaking. I'm gonna just shoot straight with you. Are you fucking this nigga's baby moment? This nigg like, nah, man, we just watched Love of

Hip Hop too. Okay, that was after the Chad My Bad, before cont I was like toys the end of the tour. This is this is before. But you know already you could smell it in there. I know I already knew. Right, I'm just saying that this nick is my name. I'm saying, if you got here and keep it real with me, right, you don't keep it really we move boom to the tour. I know you know what I'm saying. Now, he's keeping the storyline because he about his business and ship. This

is what I found out later. I'm like, Okay, this nigga really sitting next to me on the bus, mom, and I'm like, Bro again, nigga, are you fucking this nigga? Baby Mama? Right, Na, Bro, ain't I ain't suckinghing? Right, I find out on the fucking show like everybody else. Now I'm steping nigga. I'm like the real nigga. I'm hot fucking mad at this nigga. Right, I'm like, bro, real, like, I don't care if you're fucking want it, right, But like, think about this. Obviously this ship is not like clear

and accept it and we're back on this bag. I think it's not the time to promote that ship, that ship, pimp that ship. Is she gonna eat off the back. She gotta eat off that back later, once it's done, once it's fixed, you know what I'm saying. But right now, don't throw that ship in that nigger's face, you know what I'm saying. I don't think that's added to the possibilities. I think it's like poking at the bear, kind of humiliating, you know what I'm saying. And that was my place

with it, you know what I mean. But up over the honesty many that was my place with it. I was madding motherfucker. You know what I mean, Because I was, like I was saying, overseas ship, I was seeing the Ferrari. I wanted, you know what I'm saying, this new branch. I was about tole it like that, you know what I'm saying. Like I said, I'm proud to actually two of you. But how did you feel? Two part questions when and then it wasn't working to see what t

digs outside right now? And my hunkey so look so um, what was the first part of the question? How did you feel when? Okay, so so going into it, you know, there was a lot of resentment there from the past because he talk, not not because of that, just because of how he did. Like, bro, my whole music career was on face for over ten years. You feel me like I couldn't move, I couldn't do nothing, being tied into that ship all because you went back and snitched on niggas. You feel me. So it was a lot

of resentment there. And now mind you here we came back. We was on the first season and love and hip hop together. But dude found me out the blue, came to a studio session. I'm I'm with Cooter and Max at the studio. He's like, where you at. I'm pull up on out the blue comes there talking to me like, yeah, names I'm about to do leveing hip hop. I'm like, oh, that's what's up. He like, yeah, you should get on it.

And I'm like, no, that ain't so so I'm like, you know, now that ain't really my thing, Like you know, just think about it, think about it. And Kuda was also managing Terra Maria at the time. He was on the show so Um and he was like, well, I'll see you know what Mona talking about. So he called Mona. She's like, yeah, I want to meet him. So I'll go sit down with Mona and she telled me like yo, yeah, you know, well I love your storyline. Omari told me all about it, and you know, like we got rid

of a lot of people off the show. Joy was on their bowels, baby Mama. That kicked her off because she didn't have nobody to entertweing her storyline with. Neither did on Mark. She was like, you know, I was about to get up get rid of She was like, he don't have nobody in the twin the storyline way, but this is perfect y'all come from the same group. Y'all both got baby mamas right now because this girl was pregnant at the time. So I was like, you know,

all right, the back scene, right, you feel me? Cool, I'll do it. So we did the show, and towards the end of that season, he was talking to me about it, about this new project and what he wanted to do, and I said, bro, like you should it was in the boxing ring or something like that, not at all. This was off camera. He was like, he was like, bro, like, you know, what should I do with my new music? Like what direction should I go?

And I'm like, yo, you know you come from B to K and our biggest hit was Bump Bump Bump. Kelly did that, I said, I said, I said, r Kelly showed us how he did that song. He wrapped it and then put a melody behind it. I said, so you're like a rap singer, bro, go get a d J muster be throw a rap song on that beach. Go crazy. He like, yeah, you think something like good. So so like maybe two or three weeks later, he come back with a must be in a in a verse in the hook and it's supposed to be and

I'm like, this is hard. Bro supposed to be And I'm like, this is hard. He's like, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna do something with him. So I'm like all right. A couple of weeks later after that, he come back and he got brown on it and I'm like, oh, this is out of here. Bro, you you what you're doing? Drop it? He like yeah, I gotta go through the business though, so I'm like I feel it. He called me a couple of days later, Hey, bro, you um, you'll come with me to brown House. I just gotta,

you know, handle some business. For the record. You know, these niggas be smoking and drinking. I ain't. I ain't really on that ship. Like, I'm like, yeah, I'll roll with you, nigga, So I'll go up there with him. He talked to him, they figure out the business, and he got him on supposed to be. Then a week later he got your n on it. I'm like, bro, this ship is out of here. If you don't drop

this ship right now. That she eats bodies like grocery, you gotta eat the like grocery, all right, that's the fact. So we started drink champ he drops the ship it's out of here and I don't hear from no more you litter come with it in my own and then start playing like yeah, I'm I ain't doing love and hip hop. You know. That's just like some ship I did for like the Platform real quick. That's like that ship is like. But then tell me like, yeah, Nick,

you should do four seasons of this ship. I'm like, why are you playing it? Like? It's so like a week to be on this ship? You feel me like, what's up? Like I'm hitting this nigger up? No no response reading red in the DM, no response, Like damn, bro, what's up? I'm going on the next season talking about the group putting the ship back together. I had a conversation with April on that on that scene, yes, because I don't have the nigger number. No taking it to

af bro. It's always been like this, like the dude comes got a group chat, the dude comes to group chat, bro, the dude comes back for leverage and then goals on his own. That's what he does. So it's been a play, been running for a long time. So what's the want to play? You're saying it's just back then, y'all've never had each other's numbers. I've never had one, you know,

I had it. I just played. I really didn't have nobody in my boy heads because we're stuck together through everything all the way to this day, so you know what I mean. And I really didn't care to like have that, you know what I mean. So I never really kept up with him like that. He did. They lived on a whole other side of California that I didn't live on, So it was it was more you know, obvious, so reason for them to have each other's number, to be kicking it, to be running into each other, you

know what I'm saying. I live ahole two hours when the other saw you know what I mean. I didn't really stay involved with the ship like that, you know what I mean. So that's why I had a number, you know. But him, I had it for the time needed me to happen. He didn't get the NU telling when he sent out the ship to the new like this my new joint y'all the story. He didn't get

that and he didn't get the message. So literally, I hadn't talked to him from that time until one day I was at April Prid before the tour event came about conversation and he was coming to drop off his kids and he's seen me sitting on the couch and I was like, what's up and he just turned and walked away. Tried to have a conversation with him in good come out. You just said it very large, lovely. But he's at her crew. But let's just be clear.

But the average dude is going over to drop off his kids and he see his group member chilling on the couch cheerios. I'm gonna think baby boy, remember baby Boy with sloop called now it's you Snoop or it's you Tyres in the situation, I'm not the baby daddy song, I'm Jody you Jody Well, No, Joey's the baby daddy. Okay, holy ship, this is this a weird ship though? Is I'm gonna be because I want you to get back

to you. Don't let me finish telling you that. On that next season when I was trying to put the group back together and dude kept avoiding me, I was it brought up, brought out old feelings like damn, bro, you're doing this again, Like but is you thinking let me stop you for one second? Is you thinking that love and hip hop is pushing that narrative? Is he thinking? This is you push my story? Hi? This is what I wanted to talk about. Okay. Um, So he was

he was in my a. I'm like, yo, what's up? Like, what's up with this nigger? So I had a conversation with April on that season and they were not together at that point, and she like, man, you know how dude is? Like we after that continued to cohert because I was trying to get due number from her so I could talk to him. She like, I'm not giving you his number. You feel me. But through all the conversation and ship, we just became a lot of We had a lot of ship in common because of dude.

You feel me hurt people hurt people exactly. So it's like but it's like it's almost like you can't even really like it was no, it was no, it was no malice like it was no, no, no, uh what you call that? It was no? What's no what's his name? No? Yeah, no, no bad intention behind it? You feel me. It happened his face right, But I wasn't even trying to come at her like that. You feel me, But let me just be the definitely advocate. Looking from the outside looking

at maybe that was her. Not not not to say anything bad about her, but she knows her female knows you mess with one of the guys because the ultimusic getting lost in the sauce, and you can understand where he's not gonna feel that. Yeah, you wouldn't feel it either someone dating your baby, Mom's that baby. It's a different situation with me, all right, No, but see, I know I watched the show like with rich dollars and all that whatever. Right, um, but that's different because this

this is your brother's y'all. Y'all to me, y'r mafia to me, y'all sat in the building somewhere and cut each other's thumbs. But I put it together and said, be like, you know what I'm saying. And then my point, don't trying to talk to do Like at that point when he's seen me on the couch, was nothing going on between me in April. I was the homie over there and he just happened to be coming by. Bro. I tried to talk to you. I'm like, Yo, what's up? Oh,

turn and walk away like yo, what's up? Like what did you have? One on the couch. Same time. I'm trying to put this wasn't like the afternoon. You're just gonna You're gonna never Okay, Okay, damn bro, this is crazy. But sheok a free tough and if she got played so because quick time you know what I'm you know, I'm let me go to the bath. This is good. Then y'are giving it up? Man, you'll give it up. I love it, Holy moly, only I'm ready trading cards like n f T trading cards. Yeah, man, yeah it's

French or everybody. Yeah, you had to give it like he liked. Damn there slum Dog billionaire because it's somehow this nigger knows everybody. Everybody alright, cool, Look, this is a game we play play with every guest, actually have multiple I don't want to do it with the three of us. We did it with the group a certain way last time. Okay, did we give him? Just do let's do ramm alright, let's rock to do ram. So

I'm gonna ask you a question. Ask you a question as if you people lively correct and say both, you gotta take a shot. If you say neither, you gotta take a shot. But then if you like straight up like an then you go. But if you take a shot, we take a shot, which we don't leave you out. Yea, we drinking, We don't ve We got your bed. Sounds sounds like I'm gonna take a shot, set it off, So I'm gonna go with you, Nelly or Luda Luda, Okay, Chris Brown or Austa. Why you asked me that it

was random? It was to take a shot. Take a shot. When I was a kid, I wanted to be Mike, and then I became a teenager, I wanted to be Usher. Then I became an adult, I wanted to beat Chris Brown. It sounds like a shot. That sounds like a shot. To be around, you have to take a shot to one that's gotta under he can't bring up again. I'm not to get my glasses out of Okay, here's a good one, all right, This is a good one. Calm perfect, perfect for you. Um tupaco, this hustle you're gonna rob

with you, gonna come on. That's whatever practerial. You don't gotta be whatever parterial you want because you don't want to take this job. Whatever question, I gotta go for both shot us all say, because you know what I'm saying. Godamn, you're you're gonna do that? No, goddamn you can do small shots. So I look, it's one shot together. Ah, starting off fire. I got this one. Let's go ready, who pick random? Random? De's these child with TLC ship

that's in Chad. Okay, they've performed with Destiny Show, went on tour with him. Now you Yeah. Beyonce took us to dinner and then they Caviard for the first time. Yeah. She said no, she said you need to said, she said, you need to run your horizons. She said. The people you're gonna meet, they're not all gonna be from the States. So in order to, you know, make them feel comfortable, you don't turn down that tradition, you know, So be ready to eat some ship that you're not ready for.

Let's go ahead and eat this cap yard. Uh, where are y'all at oversee to what the group that's in the cho They took us to Noble Together, Noble and London. Yeah, and they had to capy y'all y'all come out. Yeah, y'all had no idea what that walk. Now. I was looking at that shop and the queen said, she said, get your palot correct voice for the queen. That was seeming my cool every day. Look at this right the west moving put your ways out of here. I was.

I was in the room looking like Michael Max like you we can't be here, slide, we gotta go. He didn't know how to move. Okay, I love Yeah, Ran Brandy or Monica waste no time. That's what I'm talking about. My boys. You don't need Monica's They both calle but I grew up on. Brandy says she got the age window case. I mean, yeah, Marian it out we compare

that moves her votes. That's not y'all. You gotta say. Oh, I'm gonna say there right, I'm gonna be honest with You'll have to go to Mario if you want to talk about what the funk I played? Yeah, like you gotta actually have a group members come and take a shot for this. Alvario, Alvario, what what about? What? What would you pick? Saying the name? Yeah, what would I do? You said? What would I pick? Like like like in

my radio? Yeah, already what you got of You don't have to pay a shot, Like, Yeah, I'm I'm a ship. I'm gonna drink Okay, drink Chorious for next week. Yeah. Yeah, it's alott relaxing next way. Uh Jeremiah or jeh uh Jeremiah. I like. I like Jeremiah. I like Jeremia. I like Jeremiaz. Yeah, I like Jeremiac. That's my man, James. All three of y'all, I gotta I gotta poltize. I need to hit all three of you. Okayo or Romeo? Oh my, I'm going back. That's anonymous now. Gave us an opportunity, like he let

us open up for the first screen talk. I told first about like what very first screen? Can you pick one and you lose one? That's what you're gonna be listening to. That's what it's whatever, whatever your purpose is. That's first screak. This first the first screen tour about the how how how what age of y'all? And we were thirteen yeah, thirteen? Yeah about the older woman. It was he was copy you about he had bouncing me out. He did. He went to went to d C and

performed for Jermaine. Yeah, we performed at some club he was hosting that night, so that we could he could give his approval, and he was like, yeah, they're dope. So one thing about them niggas, Bro, we talked about Jermaine dem Niggas is with the business. Bro. They not know haters. Dem niggus is flying on time. You know what I'm saying, You an't gotta worry about that ship. You know what I mean. For one thing that I always watched about them is they was really about the business.

And you know what I'm saying, like bowing scared of no money, like he get the ship straight with it, whatever it is, the in the in between, you know what I'm saying, Like if it's anything to get to the money, dem Niggas is with the business to say that if if be too, k could have a little bit of that in our business. And that other dude, our other brother could handle this ship the way that they handled their ship, like bring it to the table, nigger.

What's the issue was the what's the question why we can't give the culture what they want? You know what I'm saying, we got to do a service like we was the instinct of the black community. You know what I mean, It's not about money, it's not about you know, accolades. It's like it's we left them hanging, Bro, We left him hanging. What if Jay left us hanging? What if? What if you left us hanging? What if you get what if drinking champs? Just leave us hanging? We love

what and y'all just left us. That's what we did. We did a lot in two years, bro, But we were supposed to give him like ten even if it was solo careers in between like B when it did, and then it came back just for maybe one B too calm to be to cows, It's not about the money. It's about we really set up these kids to believe that they had something that they was gonna get the rock with. Just your favorite rapper, whoever it is, whoever they were. You look forward to the fact that they

was putting out another album after this one? Right, how many officials we two k albums all ship If you're talking about like real studio albums, it was like seven of them. Yeah, it was to B two K album and we had a Christmas album the soundtrack for you got the all original studio album songs. It's not like remixes and scratched over or nothing like that with the girl albums. Like he wasn't in the studio, he was dancing, wasn't dancing was on the broad for me. So that's

why we never That's why we really pressed. It's not to be on bump like that, like Omar, are you so greatest? Like bro, we leave it and work undone Like you know what I mean. I might not want to pursue a solo career like that because I come from a come from a team aspect, like like with Ray K, I'm joining the cast and Uya had like a B two K point oh I love my hip hop. Ray like that. You was like no because it's like the last time I said, yeah, yeah, no Ray Okay.

Now but you know, like and you you go fart of people. It's like you told Ray, you said, you said, do you know who we did? Do you think? I'm sorry? I'm sorry that because thinking about it after, like you know, knowing it, I'm booking, y'all, I'm going through your disgraphy. I'm like, damn, I didn't understand you then, so I'm like you just get the bag. But now I'm looking back and I'm saying I understood exactly what you were saying back then, So continue, I'm sorry, yeah, really so Ship,

I don't even remember, I say, you don't remember? All right, but let let's move on. Hold on last Street Boys, the Man Ship Black Street That was the first tape I bought as a kid. Take take did it pop on you? No? I actually put clean X in the side and recording myself. That's okay, okay, okay, alright, move okay in sinc or Black Street Boarder Backstreet Boys, because in sync and sink and Nigga loved and sings that

I did back staying together. They wouldn't got that that that that that bag when that fucking by bye bye. So so we thing got a big gass head right what we talked about each other because you know, nig like, you know, get me nervous because man, you know, to get to that fun taking that they're gonna breaking sick then want to come out with breaking neck. Nigga, Man, that nervous a lot. I've just sucking. We love music, we love music, but this ain't for me for sure.

Actually actually fire too though. Yeah, escape oh s w B, why do you keep getting so right? You I gotta go back, say o Mario this first off, Yeah, because you're doing the right day because we want to be two k back together. Goddamn it, goddamnit, sucking up. No, okay, so escape damn both. I had to because I love both of them. This good one, really Lenny Kravis or Maxwell? Whoa, it's like you didn't like both your cousins. I usually hear the barge the bar and hey man, all right,

all right Maxwell, more like a light skin. Then I'm gonna go Max Live. He's in a light skin crew. Max. I want to apologize or whatever I finished you back in the days and I found out you're making in Puerto Rican. I fucking her. Yeah, I lost my mom so offended that I offended him. I forgot what I said, but I apologize wherever you're at, out of there, both of them legend. All right, you're gonna go to this one, Yeah, Joe to see Jacket. That didn't come to me, boy,

I love I grew up on Jo to see. Okay, then we gotta give it to you, Joe to see or you want just want you want to do? I want to see. We wanted to be jokes. We did like that was you we look because if they both going to Joda, see, you don't go y'are still drinking, y'all, y'all. But hell, now, okay, so you want to do as a teams player, get in and then he got a

reason for Jacket that I promise right. I pro was a young ster, but I was a pumpster with Jack at the edge, lumpster, humpster youngster with Joe to see. I couldn't do my moves with Joe to see, but I know the songs. Yeah, yeah, you can do, but I was old at that time. I'm to go, Jacket Edge. We gotta take a shot. I mean, we're gonna say I got here. It's not it's not just amariya. Now we're figuring out real cool. I just don't want to find the light skin, you know. Solo, So solo, solo,

next one to drink to. Okay, it's a drink already there, all right, so we can change it. Okay, Oh yeah, yeah, right, No, no, no, no, We're gonna get a couple of yeases. This is before all three of Y'all'm sorry, some of this is gonna be for one of y'all, but this one is for all three of y'all. Michael Jackson or Price. I'm going to Mike. Mike just to go good choice. I don't say I wanted to go to Mike. I just wanted

your blood, Prince. Prince is amazing. If Mike is just Mike, you know, I gotta thank this motherfucker right here for me. Never ever meeting Michael Jackson again, I never. I never got to meet Mike because of him. So so Ronny Jerkins was at the World What I Do, and I was sleeping, was like four in the morning, but they got the call that Mike was at the video and we can go up there and meet him. Well, they just got up left and it just didn't even wake

me up. I'm at the grid. I'm at the apartment downstairs. They didn't even come kidding like a few times. Yeah if you say, I'm sorry. Yeah, So I'm in the apartment downstairs. They go him and oh go he no abody he like, oh, well, they said Mike gonna be here for two weeks. We're gonna run up on him again. So he don't even get up like brow like bro, what like this is Mike? Bro? Like I would have jumped up just I wouldn't even brush my teeth, bro, Like this is Mike. We're talking about, so for as

you can't defend yourself, I just got up, don't. I'm pretty sure they was like, you know what he told me. I'm gonna tell you what he told. Bro, you're jay Z thing you love jay Z. I'm like, Bro, this is Michael Jackson. Bro, even jay Z love Michael Jackson. What are you talking about? Like? You can't? I gotta s he was he was nervous to meet jay Z. So you know what was two thousand and two BT Awards.

So I said, let's go meet two thousand and one man, so you know, shout out to shout, shout the whole man shot. Okay, I'm saying she got real boys in the hood of in society, and you're start with the la guys should get skipped it on purpose. Yeah yeah, just like everybody or here. We're gonna start with him and you start with you. Let go ahead, starting on you. That's a question. Yeah, that's your skid. No, No, don't, don't society ship. I gotta go both. Okay, wait, right, yes,

I'm looking damn myself. Don't okay, don't society going in. It's the society that's all three minutes society. He said both. He said both society. You're tie breaking both boys and him? All right, say yeah that's right on day alright, alright, cool, right there we're going with you going back, right, I'll be sure or Bobby Brown, Bobby, Yeah, you am sure, a little brother. I don't even know. I'll be songs like that to be honest. Yeah, don't want I can't come.

Oh day night day night. Right, Yeah, and that's the one I know. Yeah, we don't go by his singing now. I know Quincy more than I know. I'll be sure. We love them both, Go ahead, right, Shi looking at damn d I love at leash it though, Yes, trade songs or Tory Lanes, take shot, yeah, the fast shot. Everybody gotta take a job again. So one for all, all for one, brand new being. What is this solo? Okay,

you got the next one? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Ready, yeah the weekend or Bruno Mars Bronos the same one, yeah, no, the next one after that? Wait, I'm back to all three of y'all. I'm sorry, I got a three years. I didn't realize question here, I didn't realize what this question is. This is Jackson five or new audition Chase five, really thinking about I'm not gonna Taxi five. Whoa, it's crazy. Don't do that for real? Right? I mean you said

you was a team player. He didn't really care pack it out with a really if he's saying, now a bro, we was always the the new New the Jackson five mixed with new addition on wind he said, both is the road. We performed in the same room that we performed with Destiny's Child for a member of New Edition. What Rolph Trevor, No, the Browns didn't do job. It was a rick named Nick, Ricky Bell, Michael body Bar. That's Ricky. That's what it was. That's what it was.

We're performed for Ricky Bell. That's all in the same Oh man, Alice, you know what I'm playing with it like smo both Yeah, take a shot. That listens heard that before? Oh right there? You know threat right there? What I'm saying, what I'm saying, Okay, I'm like where we at? Oh this is a good one. It's also to your three you made the pre you on pump that and the way you've been talking, I feel like, can y'all just take a moment to just tell him to keep it real, all right, We'll take a moment

to keep it real. Take a moment. According to my man books, I wanted y'all to keep it record what y'all seems like? Who ham was? Take that? Take that, Take that Daddy was down early. I love Puffles on bum Bum bum Bum. Jamaine worked on our first album. He did uh, he did a boyfriend, spent a lot of time last boy spent the last time with Jamaine too. Spent a lot of time with Jamaine at his studio that Nika made us stay there for like two weeks

and just play basketball before we even I did. I did he last for me all one of our songs and I recorded it back in l A. He was like, no, I don't like it. He flew me back, just me back to Atlanta to re record it and he was just me and him in the studio. He was like, no, you gotta do it like this and it came out crazy. All right, So let's let's let's keep it real for let's what a week ticking? I got more history what

you may's okay? Jermaine had a lot to do it give me my start, you know, so I'm have to go with your Maine. Love didn't though, did you take to level? Got what you wanted to relegate? Let like, yes, what about you man? Yeah okay you yeah, I'm gonna do what you make okay, yeah, yeah yeah yeah makes for the team player. Okay, it's gonna get This is where we'll get to know what thing right here? I like this. I'm gonna start with you Mariah or Janet

right now. Now, now you under impression I'm gonna have to go with Mariah table a little bit. You see, bored, I would say, I'm definitely gonna say like Janet was on one of our whole screen tours. She was dan Germaine at the time. She can't love this song shot. You don't have to take away answer Motola signist. That was his wife. We admired. I loved Janet. You know what I'm saying. She's a partner of Michael family. I got left Michael. Yeah, you know right, Okay, I love it.

Bore mhm m w w old, damn what got you where? You're taking the shot? But don't turn like booting. Yeah you fits you in on this. I can't think. Yeah, both of them stories are are crazy. I can relate being in a group, I can relate to both stories, you know, and both of them went through the trenches together, you know, like, um, that's really hard. I'm out to say both. I gotta say both. You get your shot ready, Yeah, every here in America that spell shots, sir, I got

my where everybody you'd pay you pick. I see the East, I've seen the easy eat jump right out of you with yours? Anything else? Radio or podcast? Oh, I'm on the podcast on the podcast radio suck. Yeah. I feel like he did that just to let's make a noise rasp. Everybody individually were in the game. I love it. Radio still popping. The next one is y'all really felt this? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I don't think this day. Have some dance mother. Let's see B Street or Breaking, y'all take it breaking. It's

more of our childhood, are you match? Yeah? B Street was way before, like before we were born. It's real talk because even both of those is our childhood, so it must have been right after all? Right? All right? So this is this MTV or be each one? Wow, bonus kid not in TV. I mean it's all I got you accent, that's all the same. Good one, MCV. You gotta ask you just you just threw yourself in up. He was like, you MTV U. There's contracts in place, so I can't talk all day. It's all the same company.

It really don't matter. Just gett answered TV from TV the locks or run DMC M doesn't make sense a lots. This is Mr Lead by the way, he's the locks. Friends start keep hearing us, we've changed. Don't play on the spot and give it another somebody else against the locks? Is that possible? Somebody goes against the locks? What you want?

That don't work? Three niggas that there's three niggas LEAs broke up certain But then you know, like like like how we were some big camp fans like I love I was always Cam's little brother, That's what they always said me. And can't look the light of a camp. So I was like, I was caming. Did you have the pick phone? No? But we had the big gass area. We was wearing those because the kid obviously established established ones.

Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah, especially if you say that shit because it's not Jada, it's the locks. A lot of sucking locks. But do you know who one DMC is? Though? I can't. I can't say that I was rocking it. It could be generation generation I respected. Yeah, who ship M. I might have to go both M. Shot, they're all gonna both. I'm gonna run DMC, ring DMC right now, Run DMC right now. I cann. It's very simple. It's very simple. It's very simple. I'm gonna tell you.

I'm gonna tell you how you like for the new generation, run DMC. Very simple. It's two words, Andrew Simmons. It's front DMC. We love and that's the new generation DNC and Simmonson. I forgot that part too. Shot you just say, oh man, I mean just say both anyway. Yeah, I did a photo shoot with Angela for World Up. Remember word Up, World Up. Damn y'all, yo, Yo, let me just tell y'all something. Let me take a shot for y'all. Let me just tell y'all something in case anybody never

told y'all. Y'all officially legends, thank y'all, officially old geez y'all, officially kind of old school. Yeah, I'm hanging out with bust that In fact, Joe one day, right, swear to God, and they both get the same offer that I had already took from the go off me some joels I got thinking I had no idea. So Buster, in fact, your bocus the same call, and they're like, all right, cool, the money sounds good, so they're gonna say, yes, guys, no one knows that all three of us are together.

Oh what's it? Calls back in ten minutes, we got a dead damn show. But he didn't called me he goes fat job because I didn't tell what's the or fat joke that I was already in on it. I was like the first person to cut the back. They called back and they said, we don't do old school shows. And at first I was just like, I'm like old school money, Like I don't give what they called me old. But it was something that it was. It was it was, it was It was a integrity because these are my

older older states man. You know how many years I got in the game. They have more, no godless of what. But I just looked at it like a bag as a bag. And they had taught me at that very moment like we're never old like we are O g s. We're never old school. So they turned down a bad and they gave it back forcing me to car bus back. I was. But what I'm trying to say is they taught me integrity. Because you're only as old as your feeling. So if you feel ninety five, you're gonna act nineties.

I've never felt older than yeah. Yeah, yeah. Got my knees hurt because I'm sitting around like trying to keep up. But listen, no, no, not for real. Um, So I want to give that advice to y'all. It's because they're gonna talk for the rest of your life. God bless you know. You know your situation. Everyone is in the group has had a breakup, had the same one on

one fight that you're talking about. Everyone in the group was someone the two Man Too, Wootangs or nine Man Grouple, so whatever, Um, we've all been through the same ship. The thing is for us to live forever, not just music wise, but live forever in our own hearts. And I have I have not one callous like. There's people who shake my hand sometimes, but they could be worker day in your life and they have no idea. We differently, man,

I don't know. No, come on, let me finish. But what I'm trying to say is we live a beautiful black. It's one of our most dangerous life because we could never take our face off. You can leave right now. You can leave right now, and you leave right now. You can leave right now. I can leave right now. And there's somebody's gonna say, motherfucker, we just can't have peace. No, it's true, you're laughing because you you don't only think you're not favors here. That's funked up. Did you make sense?

And us we might not have peace? There's more going to the plan against and try to get you know, dolphin us and they're gonna say, you're gonna go to you know, crustaceans, that's gonna be an Asian girl. They're like, man, you'd be saving us where. I don't know where this started going. I don't lost the whole SAME's trying to make sense of something that doesn't going upside. Yeah, I got mad a crust dolphin. Yeah, we got dolphin fingers. Never heard of dolphin fingers. Ain't gonna first it's not

a dolphin. I don't know what's what? What's the dolphin that anybody now to snap? I don't even flip at first when I came on. Yeah, yeah, but by the way I eat all the time. All right, all right, all right, I'm not gonna actually actually boys against that disc. I am gonna actually it is the last question we asked every guest on not not not The interview is done for quick time and stops just a curtain segment. We asked every guest, is start with you rasp gyalty

or respect loyalty? Yes, I'm gonna go with loves damn. I mean, if someone's loyal, they're gonna respect you respected. It comes that comes together the influence on you can respect somebody, be loyal good one. You can respect somebody and not be loyds just to cover both sides through until they decided that they don't need to be loyal because they feel like they got a reason no longer to respect you. So it is you are ship wrong.

More guys like go loyalty fantastic. I think I could touch the loyal to a little bit more than respect, because you feel when people get emotional a lot about small things and that test a little to you a lot, you know what I mean? But why not both? I would love to go both. I didn't get the option, you know what I'm oh, I didn't know that was a both questions. That was both questions. Take you be

yourself up. We all listen to the side. Got that with a little So let me ask I'll call him to have to take the shot because this is a song that you got what girls want right and at the end of the song, you're all shoting out your soul? Yeah sign why uh all right? So I want to I mean you want to keep it a buck? Keep it about when Cal sent the song and the demo said, like when you say cal, Mr Robert Kelly, Yes, did you definitely basketball games? Nah? Okay, no, we did. We

went to the spot in Chicago, the Who. But there was a couple of celebrity games that we played in and he was playing into Yeah. But yeah. So when A Kelly sent in the demo, at the end of the record, he said, I'm Jay Bub and I'm gonna live. He knew, y'allay he went, he went, that's my son. Yeah, bro had a copy of that Honest Brother record tain like that cats, I promised kill Kill, but but I'm sag back. I forgot the name of the group. What's

your No? They did the same, like my name is mal open and I'm a Capricorn and then and I'm you know, you know what I'm talking about the Slights. Wasn't the Slights one of those somebody who's that was the thing always in records of people. What's your Yeah? The millennium, Yeah in two thousand, So I was like, what that? But what's crazy that there? So that's that's what I'm saying, Like Google y'all already he did Court and Us. It was like he got on a board

and it was like there there here there. He did every single one on second album, Man, Clean Flush, bro and the Remiss and took all the publish That's what I want to ask that. But I was a little Yeah, that was that he got He broke sauce from Michael Jackie was like, I don't care if I wrote twelve bars yet, Mark Kelly about that. That wasn't gift to us. You know what I'm saying? That changed our lives, man, that that that gave us our first I don't want

to single our first major feature. You know what I'm saying, Shout out to Puff because that NIGN touched the record when Next Scared, because that's a whole other story. That record went the Nellie first, I gotta in my nose to Nellie first. He's lit came out. It went to Nellie first bum bum, actual original record and Nellie has the record. Country and Grandma what they didn't. No, he didn't.

He didn't want to do it because calin calling through the stuff currently at that time fresh this is some other step he was going through. This couple want to questioned girl, girl, you're going north like we all right, I'm taking I'm thinking that gets the record right, then get the record right and there's no shade to Nellie. But his team just felt like, you know, we're not touching that right now. He hot hiss fun you know

what I mean. Nellie is on top. So it just like you don't want to get caught up with any possibility. So there was like, now I's gonna pass on it. Puff Kebic gangster like you know, I had a record back to y'all what nigga like what maybe forty eight hours at the Max nigger with all that ship done, focus like man, I ain't well about that ship. I love him little niggas and you know what I'm saying, This opportunity for us to bridge these fan bases. You know what I mean, Like, let's do it. You know

what I mean? And we fun remember that when he got on the set Bro Classic Moments. Man, one of the greatest dudes that we met. That just like when you get around them, you feel an energy of like you can do it. You know what I'm saying, Like you can do it, you can do it. I don't I never did any business with Puff contract with me, so I don't get into all of that, but just the energy of being around a nigger and just being around a successful person that like he got the energy of, like, right, man,

I want this nigga's life. You do know what I'm saying, Like when I leave, I'm Nigga. I'm about to go be the new fucking public. Leaving that place. Nigga had us on fire. It made us want to go kill some ship, like because he had a ship so together, he had his assistance. Right he pulled up right, It's guards was like put up in a military to put the drip on us. It was like, Nigga gets your game up. Your niggas is little niggas. Bro put my fucking ship on for me. Fucking biggers got the assistant

bringing out the box with watch this. We don't got nothing. We got dance moves. He's just out there like for my shot. Ye like he's doing this mail getting done token a shot. I'm like, shot, I ain't gonnat are good? Anybody is right now, so be too careful. That experience was crazy. Another shot looking at your sut as. Listen, man, me and you will be all our level come a long way. Hell listen, listen. Come on, come on, you can't let me go out like this. Come on, what

is all that's ray? Shot out? Just said with your chests, Shott, the kid of my mom my wife is a lot of great Jeffer one of my best friendidents. So can I tell y'all we gotta tell another story with another Neigo star blessed us my nigga. Okay, you gotta tell you hold on this nigga came in on puff times three and an eighteen Willard home. Uh life fucking thing that nigga gspact to anybody in this stuff. Come on, man, I'm saying you nick all right, So Ris gotta talk

about this ship all right? So we're about to get rid no, because people get it funked up with k when they don't understand why we're special. Bro, special niggas don't get this sho great the reason the special You see it? You look at us right then we noticed oh is he's He's a flower that has the possibility to turn into anything in the force. Right, he could start off as a literally and turn into a rose

from the rolls or to whatever. You get what I'm saying, Like he has class right what I'm saying, I'll skip that one. I'm like the nigga that manicures the forest and keeps uping with it. I know everything in there. You know what I'm saying. Fish, he's that beautiful fucking bird that's very manicured. And the nigga you know what I'm saying, Like he flies funk, that's what he about. You know what I'm saying, he'd keep he he paints

the forest beautifully, you know what I'm saying. And Ras, Ras is the nigga who's seen where all that ship was supposed to be, planning how that ship was supposed to go there and how you get what I'm saying, Like Ras is a full director. When you talk about him putting that scream towards two together himself. Niggas don't want to talk about that. What do you want to say? Background, Dennis is when you want to say this and that I was responsible for this is nigh like I won't

put some respect on the whole process. So good how all of this ship was special for everybody who didn't know why they like this together because I'm in there cracking the whip, like Nigga, this ship messy, Oh Mike, that ship, that ship off Nigga's supposed to be Um, Nigga. It feels is like the pass too tight, you know what I'm saying, Like we can't wear that. That ship gonna look wrong, Like don't do this. You know, we

had the morning. We had a morning power this morning we had a little talk about some different like assessories and ship. I'm like, Yo, it's cool, but wait to fish get back. Let's all talk about to see how you feel about it. We talked about it. We made the decision. It worked out the right way. People don't understand.

That's how Youtuk always won, but Nigga won. Nigga trying to make all the decisions, it's like it don't work because there's so many flavors out there in the world that has to be accomplished, and they got to be satisfied, you know what I mean. And that's how we did it. We all brought a different flavor of the Candians could beach out and ranchers, but I could be strawberry great and then see like you might your favorite might be your favorite, but look, you might like the great man,

you might like And just think about this. There's a party where all the flavors there, everybody who favors is But what if they only had the yellows? What if they don't have the other one? And it was like we only see them in yellow one and night. Are you really about to break your neck to get that? No, you're not right. So when you see fifteen So when you see fifteen thousand streaming fans in there, it was because five five, five, five different favorite flavors came together

to fill that whole stadium. Because we all had a reason why those people was in there. We all drew a different crowd. We will when we would get to the then't be the mean greets, the big girls. To Jake book, I had all the big girls, all of them, Little guy, I was twenty pounds and then they loved it. I was like a TwixT you girls all that baby, But I love the big girls. I hugged them, they picked me up sometimes put it there love this past tense.

No I say love, I'm saying, show you better wress. Listen. I don't discriminate because at the end of the day on some real n ain't coming. I see the person, you know what I'm saying, Like, I see the person who and when they get there, they more lit up, an appreciative of what I'm doing for him. Then the girl that thinks she looked good with the eyelashes and

all that she's trying to get chose for me. I came to do my show and get with my real rockets, not the one that's trying to capitalize off my success. So if these are ones that's really rocking with me, I sit in their eyes. They're excited about me, they crying. I'm like, that's my nigga right now. I'm trying to beat like, that's my nigga right there. That's the one I can rock with, maybe start the fan club with, she can maybe work with us, do some merchandise, like

because they're really my supporters. That's what I'm there for. So the big girls they eat me up and they tell me, I eat you Jake, And I'd be like, if you eat eating catch your I'm gone. You don't eat as Come on, bro, you do? He said, yes, I'm rick out. You gotta eat everything. Come on, man, you slipping overhead listen if you're not what you're doing. Wait, so we sent to me this is clear as this boat.

Everybody co signing we eat booty g I'm like, eat the whole ass, friend, eat your no, bet your head up, no kissing specie game. He didn't laminate his cardia. This praise me a little chill ship. Yeah, listen, trick down, he say, my girl, you know what I'm saying. My tongue makes love to slide down there. Okay, so let me curage. What is it about tree day? This trick daddy had it? He said, I said, you guys keeps

sat in the same chick. You get your asking. Wait he gets his ask question that was not the questions. Why hold to say that? What I'm trying to say, see this different in this world? A six ship is crazy? A hold on you never said on your face out bound me. Okay, we asked me broke the group? But I talked about did we talk about that about that? The remix? Yeah? What about it? Did we talk about that? No? Our Kelly did the remix? Ou too. Kelly did all

the songs the second album. He was he was our goats. To be clear, was there a sign y'all hang Kelly and this thing is crazy? We don't even hanging with him never? Because that's true that This is what I would saying. This is when I was like, ro it was weird. Oh what not like that? Not like that, bro, but it was we were like we went to it. We went to his crib for the shot for I don't know, I'm not taking a shot. It wasn't It wasn't like that. It wasn't like it. It wasn't like

the table he was there, It wasn't like that. I was it. Look. So we finished the overseas tour and it was his daughter's birthday to day we were coming back. We see his mar Kelly staughter's birthday here and she was a fan of ours, so he requested if we can come by and seeing Happy birthday to it right there this mixtape overseas before y'all go home to Chicago, come sing happy birthday to my daughter because he was

a mixtape off. I'm just talking to the pool. We was on tour for like a month and a half and before we could go home, we had to stay in Chicago to see that people. It was not your choice, No, it wasn't. That's why I said that level of the pool. I just wanted to. So we go to the crib saying happy birthday, and he give us a tour of the crib, you see everything, and then he go to his garage under the garage, just like a six car garage. I'm like, damn, they've got some toys in here, you

know what I'm saying. So we go up in there and it's a whole workout facility from boxing, the one from that video you're shotting the Red, White, and Blue, the World's Greatest. So we're like, damn, this is crazy, Like, wasn't expected us. So he get up in the box room. He said, y'all stay down here. He's in the middle of the box from he said, y'all next show, y'all need to come out and staying still, don't move, And

then one spins to the rock. He did it. Yeah, he spent, and then he said, then the next spencer left, and then he did the next two spinning the rice spinning the left and he sat there and then he was like and then just stand there then like Mike taking glasses on and look at the crop. It was like bars. But at the same time, I was like, Cousin's weird. That was a cow the studio, right, I just said, we went to this to the world wakes up. Bro, know it's crazy about that shire. We did that ship

and it's good. Oh you did when he sa we didn't, they still work crazy crazy. He's doing that in jail right there. Anybody going crazy, Yeah, pishing, you're doing that. And our Kelly gave us some bars. Though he gave us some bars. It was weird. But on the publishing tip, he did most of the singles right, so he got all the publishers. So what a publishing that y'all did?

Right though? My wraps nothing else, nothing, nothing. But you don't even get that because he was that They say songs over with raps done, but I'm saying you got publishing from other songs y'all wrote. He was he wrote he wrote his raps, but he would sit, it's over with with wrap. That's like the rap is done if you want to use this rap because what you initially always the rapper out of Yeah, okay, you never saw I told you the same tacohol and you can hear

the knuckoholder. Note, I'm not gonna actually ship. This is some ship, but this is the thing that I'm trying to get to a deep y'all Road Records or no, the second album. We had seven teen songs on the second album, we wrote ten of them because those ten were actually produced by our managers producers, so it was like an in house play. So we really didn't get the pub were supposed to get off of that. You know,

we got like a quarter percent of a percent. It's like the smallest amount you could get on published, you know, but that's treat y'all three or spoo to y'all four. No, like we each guy point to five, like the smallest amount you could get because because because that's how I production and everybody else, that's how it was set in the day. You know, like I wanna teest about like

yeah you got you got. You gotta really like you gotta really watch what you do when you're getting to them contract your agreements, because I tell everybody, like the new artists, the first deal you're gonna get, it's gonna be the fucking worst deal every just they just wanted

to be if you paying attention. I got into working actually with the same management that we left, you know what I'm saying, on some film ship like as of a current, like as of today still you know what I mean, and getting on the other side of the desk seeing how they was doing deals Like I get what they was doing when they was sucking with us, you know what I'm saying. But it's business and you can't get that funked up, you know what I'm saying. So when we send contracts out, you're gonna get the

first base contract. It's up to you to do yogi and get a counter counter. You know what I'm saying. Red line that my fucking and get back. He said. Pearents didn't really know. We was excited about your seeing them much that was gonna come in your filming, and we got in the ship that was not supposed to get into, know what I'm saying. So message to the artists out there to day like, hold, don't vote you know what I mean, really read your ship, you know

what I mean? The first contract is the worst contract. The final contract is based off of you reading that first one and saying, look, if y'all can't rock with us like this, then we can't do it. And then if you do get into and stop finding about that, know that you're betting on yourself at that point at least know what you know? You know what I'm saying. The game was like you sit back and you look

at it like damn everybody working like that. So this is a question that we didn't ask in the game and what we usually do if you had a chance to start growlble what y'all do independent of major? I mean I never was in a position to be able to do the initial deal with the major, so I can't really say. So it's the only way you can,

That's what I'm saying. Cause look, you you go back and you talk to earth right, how you do the research on or if he was talking about when he was over there and they was giving him nigga like crazy amounts of money. You know what I'm saying, Yeah, because they had uh life, You just see like with the way that they had their deals organized. You know what I'm saying, go over to cash money, Go over to the ones that actually really was getting the numbers

coming into their accounts. You know what I'm saying. It was per how they did they deal. So the way our ship was done, I can't tell how the niggas like winning. They're really got their right deal. They might have just wanted to take whatever deal was. You know what, I'm an available different everybody. Maybe would I probably agree

with him. I would have took a major deal. If they're gonna give me a full production deal, full whatever, you know what I'm saying, joint venture over that at that time, I would probably take that major deal with the right numbers, with the right ship as closest possible for the time frame. The thing would have been shorten the time frame, so you earned the business. You're going

there and we're not scrapping the time. You come out learning, and then you renegotiate, keep going, keep going, keep no. There's the thing that I want to ask about, this R Killer thing about him writing the record I'll kill You'll not It's not like it's not would y'all done it again, Like, would you go back and have him write those records again? Did you feel that you got what you needed out of How did someone take the

publishing write this record? Wouldn't I wouldn't take anything back on what we did, other than the conversation we had confidentiality about leaving management. Okay, That's the only thing I would take back, because other than that, y'all might still have the k as afford here today. It's supposed to be an empty chair right there, feel me? Because without that, what would management have to go off? He fuck that girl? Like that's not enough to to stop and take one

person solo, you know what I mean? So other than that, like R Kelly added to the success of bats Okay, you know what I mean. He gave us our first number one record, and because of that record, our album stay at number one for like four or five weeks. People every kay Bro before r Kelly, my nigga, they they brought our ship out at nine eleven when the

town's got hit literally all. Our video premiered on one or six in part one nine the Last You See how people in Him, Our first sight La Stadiums in one or six and part the set right, it's right. So remember when it was just Free and Agent and it was all so it was all down the life with them that had nobody in the audience and they weren't doing them but just running the videos. And our new joint got pamire like that. We weren't able to

go on to Charaka Fellers. None of that Ship right was still Zoom back then record on record at the time, and my opinion was before it's time and they didn't know how to work it. Tricky Stewart and then did a dopass record on hun for Us right Bank and Ship. But but the record wasn't researching the way that we expected to research, right, So we're having problems at radio. We came promote the way we want all of our world premieres from mt V, t r L, t V T one or six. In part it's fucked up because

the No. Eleven ship got everything shut down, you know what I'm saying, And so like we teetering on not even getting the second chance at a second video or second single within the label. If you know about the contracts, how that oh, you gotta first guarantee a possible second you know what I'm saying, like our possible second is looking shaky as funk right now because the first record is reading our researching in this and the economy is sucked up because No. Eleven just hire. So we struggling.

Nigga Gusta Be comes, you know what I'm saying, and it starts to do well at radio, but it's still not a number one record. It's still not a top for the top twenty on the Top one hunter. It's like it's struggling. It's doing well maybe at R and B, you know what I mean, but overall, like it's not

a total success. We're more of a visual group. But what happened is they allowed us to do another new joint when they're all the smoke clear, you know what I'm saying, and one on six and Parking shot to bt uplifted enough, you know what I'm saying, to put us in a place where the label got behind us and was like all right, this shit. It's something, you know what I'm saying, Because at first the devil was

in the details. It's like, Yo, this ain't working and we ain't getting a fair shot, you know what I mean. We we're talking about Sony Epic right so to speak on Cails while we can't say shit about Cares because they brought in a slow producers to write records for us that everybody thought was the motherfucker's right. First album we worked with every we worked with everybody wasn't no slouches, you know what I'm saying. Uh, it was some motherfucker's on that track and d a clue nigga like it

was some niggas on that right. Yeah, Jamaine Dupre was on the first album. Uh. Brian McCanny Burrs wrote on the first No, but but we got kissed enough, you know what I'm saying for them to be like, all right, our Kelly is gonna work on the second album. And the passion that he put behind it was the details of him going to find out what days our birthdays was on by maybe even calling the label, calling the label and saying, I got an idea. I need to

know what day those boys birthdays is on. It could be creepy, but it could be the latest. Could look first broke Remember when we went and met with Kims. We went to the studio, right he broke out a guitar. He went to the big As podium right in the midhorder the boys at and for like what would you say? An hours? So he went into so many different characters,

from a country guide to a church pastor. Made us come up there do different things like as far as like tepping into different characters and playing along in the choir and saying this, no, no, he did the videos that he was a different I thought you'd come out with the girl kiss let the passion that I'm told about. It is like he made us. He made us come to the studio and literally show our personalities. You you

know what I'm saying. And you think the different characters, he was an exercise that he was trying to get. What he was getting to know us. He was reading this, he was finding the cool guy, the crazy guy, the funny guy. All he was fighting all of that ship and now with the genius work. When he returned with the records, Bro, they came one after another and it fitted so perfect. You know what I'm saying. He cater these records perfectly perfectly for us. It wasn't something this catalog.

And when we went and met with him, when we came from up for tour, he told us he showed us exactly I had. He was like, and I'm never gonna make you guy, it's the same song twice. I don't do that, So don't ask me for another bump bump bump. When I give you this next record, don't ask me for another one of these, because every time I get your record, it's gonna be a new one. You never do the same record twice. Wow. Wow. So so when everything starts happening, how do y'all feel? Like?

How conflicted are y'all with? Man? And and then and then the business of of what you've done with you know, we were we were kids, man, So like seeing it, it was like, damn, like this is really, this is really happening, you know. And it was like we didn't see that side of him, you know what I mean, We've seen a whole different person record, Bro, you be lost,

I don't be lost. Welcome to your champig. So so it was like we just had a different respect for him, you know, because that wasn't the r Kelly wenew was like we had right. So it was like in a sense like even what they say about Mike Watton, you know, they say the allegations they got against Mike, but we never seen nothing. So me as a Mike fan, I don't believe that ship you feel me, But Kelly and seeing it, it's like it's like whoa you know, but I can base this man really off of what I

know and who I met as a kid. You feel me. I'm not trying to decipher the two, like because you're how older you know? So it's just like it's just shock value. Me personally, I saw the success take off when like they put the record out and immediately like everybody came back from ready if you understood, like how ready or we're back back there. You have the whole lot of power out, go back tomorrow, the record research and all that way right, and they're like they're going

crazy over this record right now. You know records We took us about my mom and like Physics said, like we're not tied into his personal life, like we don't know. As the record is going number one, it's perfect, Okay, So we gotta make a decision how we support them, how we you know what I'm saying, how do you even it's not even up to you to support them

or not? Well, it is because it's like it is because it's like we we spent time with him as a friend before all of this ship hit the fan, so that taking out Damon Pherson gave us a lot of uh, a lot of individual inputs. So he gave us the option after that second single to his girlfriend to continue, you know, getting reckons from Kels, Like, y'all, I was gonna still continue to work with him because

Dave mac was actually managing Kels at the time. So it was like, well, I mean, this is how we winning, you know, like, why would we go against how we winning? Right now? Do you think this is a little crazy? But do you think the industry is so they're so happy to just make money that they will turn a blind diving what's going on with the individual. I think at that time it was just so fresh man and nobody knew where it was going. It could be false allegations.

That's why I said, we can't That's why that's but but that's why we we can't get caught up and trying to be on the side. I mean with the tape, I think people can still someone can still say that's false allegation, can say you don't know the age of the girl in it. Oh yeah, that's what I'm saying, in that time frame, but then as things progressed, people came out, and then you saw as things progressed, we were no longer in that period when we had to

deal with it, you know what I'm saying. When things were like current and fresh, when the records were out, it was all still fresh allocations. They weren't even like full tapes out and ship like that. It was conversation. Then the tape started to come out and all that, you know, first thing, but the thing was just noting. We decided to look, if it's not our situation, it's not a place to pick aside. You know what I'm saying. It's not our place to speak on it. You know

what I'm saying, that's that man's business. Everybody got, they got, everybody had their life aside from when we come out as these superstars. We don't go home to at night. North. We don't know what you really. We don't know your kids, we don't know your wife, we don't know what they you know, I don't know. So it's like, let us just take a step back and say, hey, we be

too Kate, you respect especially, That's what I'm saying. Instagram because now everybody knew on Twitter and Instagram and Facebook everyone your whole your whole life. But this before that, so it's like, wow, all those face was. Don't ask us to to say how we feel about it or should we should we work with rapping that work around. Rob was our friend before he started going through what he was going through. If you're a real nigga and you really with your nigga, even if he's wrong, you

don't fail on him. If he got to get locked up before what he did he get locked up did, but you don't bail on your nigga. That just gave you life. He just gave us, Like, yeah, he might be fucked up. Yeah, he might have did some ship that we don't agree with, some ship that I might not have did. You might have did, he might have did. You don't built on that nigga. You go through the water with him. You feel me when he's wrong, you're wrong, right if he killed that nigg he killed that niggagnore,

still your nigga. Oh sometimes no no no no no no no no no no no not you get what I'm saying. Not I'm saying, like, regardless of what my family go through, you feel me. I'm not gonna agree with all of the decisions that they made. You get what I'm saying. But one thing about me, bro, I'm

not turning my back on you. I'll chew your ass out, i might beat you to funk up for what you did, but I'm not gonna turn my back on you, bro, because at the end of the day, we're gonna be family forever, feel me, and I'm gonna need you to catch me and be there for me and my moments when I suck up. If they ain't know, I can sitt that's higher than the other. How are you gonna turn your back on your brother, nigga? You feel me? That's just That's just how I look at it. You

know what I'm saying. And I'm not gonna sucking sucking the little kids with you. I'm not gonna do none of that. Ship if I'm just saying, like, if that's just, if that's what's going on, I'm not gonna go do that with you. Blood. At the same time, you know what I'm saying, I'm not gonna turn my back on you. I'll sweet what I'm saying in the sense of like, if we gonna go out and do rob records. It's a situation where it's like, oh, we're not gonna performing

records no more, I'm gonna performing records. What was that that? So sometimes you gotta sometimes basically gotta separate the artist from the actual art exactly exactly. No, I know, I'm no, I'm not saying that. I'm just like Bill Cosmy, Like like Bill Cosby is some fund up ship when you look at it. Ever seen the Bill Cosby documentary somehow? But it doesn't take away from the hustbles. What's the fun phenomenal family? Yeah, anyone's a genius when the cat

a separate Listen, I know it's a beautiful family. Don't work from the person. You gotta look just like Copies was a little horrible. Yeah, I was just like all right, so if because it could have just came off like it was very raw. It's like this, Bro, I don't agree with you're going what you did right, and I won't involve myself with those antics. You feel me, put you my nigga, And if you're about to go do that bed for thirty years, bro, this redemption for everybody,

I'm gonna still except your goal. Bro, what's something my nigga? How are you feeling, bro? You're getting your head together. Man, I'm mad you did that ship, but I see you trying to get your head together. You feel me because you gotta still live the rest of his life. You feel me, like, straight up forgive me because I'm passionate about the forgiveness. You feel me because I need somebody to forgive me. Sometimes. That's how does y'all make that wrecking? Man?

I don't know that funny story. Yeah, at the time, the producers plan of status, which was our manager's producers at the time, they were trying to come up. So you know, at that time we were still working on reels. There was no proteolsta listen, listen, listen. You know about reading reading, we're talking about working. Hey, I don't remember seeing loads songs. Ye, fishing old started with dads. I

was very like a little North. When we would get these records, are managers would have the producers mixed the songs, so they would get the reels of all the instruments they use, and then they would sample and then they now they would have the sounds, so they had all the sounds to the R Kelly records. So when they made they made by the Boom, they tried to sample our Kelly songs and so the writers went in there and tried to make our Kelly type record, and then

we thought it was dope. So we used it for the You Gotta Serve soundtrack and actually and he jumped on it and Fab jumped on it. Cheese. No, let me just say something. That's I'm going through y'all the songs for this one thing that pops up beside Chris is deep it back. That's the same person. So what is exactly broke messed him earlier? But what what what? What? That's that's just so people that's sleeping under the rock,

that's just what's that roll. Damian Ferson was the president of Sony Evlick at the time, So when pop Daddy is on the record, he shot out, Dave Mac that's what he's told. Yeah, yeah. Was then became Lisa Ellis Spot, and then became Donnie Einer Spot. You know that spot keeps getting taken. You know that was kind of sie

wrong spot, right, is it's not a universe? That's kind of how like that's kind of like that that's kind of how like all the solo projects and all of the stuff that was going on with B t k as only at their time got put on Hope because they sweeped out everybody be my yeah, least universal about everything at that point, Remember like death jam everything he got four or four four usually text hole this time, what do you say that to say? Four or four

four word shouts out home? But another name that kept popping up and you mentioned him Earl, and you say he's your cousin, and you all mentioned him. Man, we'll wait. Shape forms like that just quit. So it was crazy because one thing I didn't want to do was Google y'all and based my information of a gossip all right, So when I Google, the first thing that popped up was there, and I was like, I don't want that. So I was like, yo, I went and dug into

your music, and I'd rather come from that approach. But then the music led me back to there because at some point it was like Chris talks bro Jos. You know what I'm saying, room, So I don't know who wants to start a league. I guess I guess it's gotta be you, right, every everybody that's to my cousin. Yes, so so so let me let me set up my question so you could answer correctly. Is me looking at nowadays?

Me looking at you now? And then me looking at I mean, listening to the records, look, watching the videos come back in and see all good? Then when I google, because I have to, and that's the first thing to drop up, popped up, you know, Chris stoves to dispute with the B two K and all this crazy ship more, more, more and without you know what I mean, like because you know, I'm familiar, but I'm like, I was living

in my own world. I was also platinum, so I then expl you know, I'm like, I'm such a good place mentally. You know, I think it's really important, you know that me and my cousin get opportunity to to wreck us out and you know, talk things out because family matters should be taken care of privately, because a lot of people, you know, do a little too much. Even when I was a kid, I did too, a little too much. So you know, I don't wanna say

too much about that. But okay, now that's the culture is ready to talk about, you know, I mean the culture is I mean because you know, what it is. I mean, whether we wanted to talk about it or not. That's when you re google y'all. It's the first thing that you know, what I'm saying is your descripancy with Crystal. So maybe you're not ready to talking. I don't want you to if you're not what I mean, but you know, um,

this is management. We're not talking about anything else because and I heard you alluded to it earlier, like you know, we all went through it, you know, so what was what was your descripancys? False management? Ghost? I felt like we were in a space where we were starting to research, you know, because it was conversations my new Bentley's gonna be here, you know, and it was just like, oh, well, where's our bread that you know, what what are we working for? Right? And you know, shouts out to one

of my cousins. Man. She she gave me. She gave me a book called This Business and Music, And I started to dip into it a little bit and I was I was seeing how, you know, the structure was set up and how the artists get paid, and I'm like, we're not getting our bread. So that was where the discripancy came in, you know, and what aises you when you realize that this is at the media takes my personal family things. We would say, I think put him in and it just it's all bad business, bro, It's

all bad business. But yeah, that's where the the screpancy developed. You know this book you understanding, and you know we were kids at that time, so we didn't really know how to go about it, um. But when it was, it was it was a Christmas tour. It was a Christmas tour we did, and in the middle of it,

it was it was New Year's New Year's Eve. They told us we can't go on with the tour because Amary was sick and he was coughing up blood at the time, which was a cat They knew they had all we already had the conversation about us breaking up. We were just finishing out the business that we had already signed up for, so I guess they figured this was the time to end it. So we go back

home and we end up going to Vegas. Rats had messing friends out there that was tied to this big company um before in the middle of us going on that tour prior to that, and they were like, yeah, come out to Vegas. You know, it's New Year's Eve. We'll take care of y'all. So they flew us out or no, we drove out there. They got as limo out there, and then we flew back on a private jet. On our way back, we were at the ClearPort and they had the big screen TV and the little libby area.

So we're sitting there and seeing then it's on. No cat, this is like a movie. We're all sitting there and we just happened to be just looking at seeing it and at the bottom of the screen it rose by it says hit Group B two K breaks up. We're like, yo, did you see that? We're like yo, no, yeah, and wehere else right, We like pressure what So when we get back home, when we get at home, big boy, it's like, yo, y'all come to the radio. Is this true? So we go up there and we're like, no, are

we together? Like, you know, we had this plan to leave management and you know, um oh boy kind of like didn't leave with us. We didn't give the whole story then. You know, we were kind of confused at the time, like how did this come out? Um? So when that whole thing started, it was the discrepancy of all right, now it's war because you're trying to tear us apart, like you're trying to divide and conquer. You

feel me, like you didn't the broadest snitched. Now you got him on your side, and now you're trying to make it look like we did this and put him near you feel me. That's when the shelf happened and he came out solo. So that was used to be kill but but you know, looking at looking back that I was mad when the ship came out because I liked the fucking song Ice I was. I'm like, keeps seeing but oh, they're like going back on it, and inside it's like man thirty six years old, like Chris

was thirty three at the time. I'm like, if I had an artist or a group and not one of the lead singers came back and told me we planned on leaving, y'all, And I'm like, well, ship, what am I gonna do? From a business standpoint, you know, and this is my group shop, I might have done the same thing because we were in that contractually never really did anything wrong. Contraction, you know, we just signed what we didn't know. You don't know what you don't know

you felt me. That was my point was saying, working on the other side of the business. Now, I see, I've been our companies do business. You know what I'm saying. So it's like excepting, you capitalize your ignorance. So in hindsight, every man, there was nothing wrong there. But if I regret something that you take something back, I mean, what's up? Okay, So let's just be clear. Let's be clear right now,

Swiss beats Timberland. Niggas turned the new leaf. Oh y'all, let's say we want small one twelve versus versus pretty ricky, pretty ricky, pretty nigga, right, won't Oh the smoke would beat u? K. Yeah, they stole our whole show on the second tour. Like the second tour we went when I made the apology, We went to the first show which was in that letter apology as he was. Now, see this is the cool one yourself. It's a cool parter of my north. Take a cool just a cool parter.

This is a cool part of these niggers right here is so much of our niggas that what we're about to say it's only gonna make them. Niggas want to do this versus more decents our niggas. So it's like, oh hill, all the smoke, bro. They talked to us every day, nigga via FaceTime, nigging like, so it's on. So we went to the first show. These niggas stole our whole show. They literally came out how it came out, Nigga circled up, how he circled up. Then they dance moves.

Damn their award outfits that I got. Damn could you be creative? You feel me? But it was, it was, it was honorable. I love you. Drinker to yo yo, No listen, that's with me, throw the same quarter and then broke from me. You want to talk about the versus nigger, right, you were talking about the versus, right, Mariot, hold on, no conversation. You gotta pick up versus from

where we left off. Okay, let me tell this before versus, before versus on tour the first streak, I mean the first Millennium tour, right, it was Betu K the whole group, pretty Riggy, Mario in Twins, Chicky Uh and Lloyd right, pleasure got into it. Oh for being on some Hollywood shake it we going. You would look not for you, because we would always be I'm are we here? What are you talking to right? Already said that's my nigga ship.

So we all hang out. We all chilled do our thing like like NA is doing tour, like I love it. On tour, you might leave before me, after me if you were headline or whatever. I'm getting with you later, like we're gonna around. We're gonna have fun on tour. They can never come hang out nothing so pleasure like what damn you don't come out and hang out in the court yard like you're gonna with this, like we all hanging out. It's on sound checking, sucking with each other,

doing video. What's nigga got a security like well Mario, yeah, pleasure ready to get down with the security guard, like, man, tell the nigga come out the day. So pleasures start the versus beef before versus ever started. Nia started going out. Don't not sound just like my records, don't shot every show smashing, don't not sound like my records. Don't not sound just like Okay, let me stop you right now because I know you're gonna because I've read the comments.

Ship was crazy for comments. It was that's why I said Marion versus Mario and he's saying, this is a real what you're talking about? You know what I'm saying.

You say that, Mario just want to say he's talking about before that, before all that, something was pre verses, before vers I'm there, sir, You're to pick up because Mari going in the verses to pick up where we left off on the versus conversations there they wanted us to sign off on our like who for a documentary in order for her to have a conversation with him, Mari about us doing versus with him. This is Michelle

to say yes, okay man. So she should be fin like this this nigger like she should be firing, said each your own bro. So there's a lot of people. So before this, you know, before this out of nowhere, before this, before this out of nowhere, a documentary came out from Marian with the Zeus Network and NEK and they were like, Yo, they reached out to my team Koda and was like, yo, we got yea you know

fits in this documentary. You know, but we don't have any signatures, like you don't have his likeness signed off for So they're like, you know, we'll we'll pay him a fee to use like a minute and a half of his footage. So they did that, but on this dot they still needed paperwork signed. You know, they're using hours of footage of all of us, the performance and everything. So we're like, yo, you know we're signed off, but

where's the bag. You know what I'm saying, I'm not signing off for nothing, even zeus paid for a minute and a half, you feel me, So what's up? Like, there's no bag, we just need you to sign off. We're not signing it. So when she said that, it was like, are you trying to use this conversation like we need a versus for leverage to get this sign and we're like, we're not signing that. So sorry, Max, to waste your time on this conversation, you know, because

this is not where we've seen this going. But we don't have to respectfully decline and we should all the best of luck. So then when the verses promos start coming out their shots taking at us. There are shots subliminals that we would know because we were on the backside of everything. So there were shots taking like the background singers like before that, there were shots taking like before the promo for the I'm gonna I see I

see a video come out. They're promoting like, oh, yeah, well Mario said this, Oh said this that the Q came out right with d Ray And then Mario puts out a video that he recorded on his phone and was like, you're gonna bring the guys out, right, you know you need the guys. He was looking kind of dumb in the face, like huh huh, and he was like are you ready? Are you ready? And he was like, bro, you better bring the guys out, like you know you need him, he was like, and then he cut the

video off right. Then the next day another promo comes out and it's just Oh and d Ray in the studio and drays like, yeah, so you know, Mario said he could bring the guys out because it's fun with him more than they fun with you, and he like I could believe that. It was like, oh really, Like okay, so you're setting up to come out and do these beautube hey records by yourself. You're trying to make it seem like we don't funk with you, but it's like

we was willing to have a conversation. You didn't even want to jump on the phone. I can't be deal. Was was like, I've been come on, nigger, I'm gonna be honest. It seems like it's all me y all, beat y'all. This is from the outside looking at you. He said, ye are you like because because he got it, so be a first, fucking me up. I was making a point, he said that, but I don't say much. Now let's listen because I'm trying to understand. That's probably

because of rebuttal for it. You're just yea yeah, all right, So let's just be clear. Were talking about masks, you said, because I wanted to hear this. You said, you feel like the beef is here. It's not here. I feel like it's right. Yeah. I feel like, um, you had a light skin contest, but he's not a light skin. Yeah, but he feels like light skinned. You can't you can't be in a light skule, not lin. But he feels like Turk and Cagos. You know what I'm saying, What

the fun comes? Yeah, you don't know what he's not here. I feel like, y'all, because what I feel like, you feel like I'm outside looking at I have no idea, but I feel like yeah, our relationship term or with theirs and what I mean by that. And I'm not outside looking that. You can also say you're bugging so let me just all right, yeah, let me just tell your something. Yeah, smooth. But this is what I felt like. I felt like, um, yeah, I was in competition with

each other. Y'all too, you and you are all And at some point he felt like competition was old because he became that guy. And when he became that guy, he felt like, you should stop competing with and maybe you should have. Maybe you shouldn't have. Let me just finish my statement. Maybe you should have, and maybe you shouldn't, because sometimes the little, the little dude becomes the man.

Like one of one of the illest things about the hood is, you know, remember the guy his name is little pee or that little pe name is old dog, and now you keep calling him a little pee, but little Pea is old dog. Little peas gonna smoke you. But you're looking at him like little pee or whoever

whatever it is. So what I feel like, at the end of the day, I feel like what happened was I feel like I had a you know, like a girl measuring contest in the beginning and then after it became that to that level, he felt like like I'm the guy, I'm I'm Beyonce, Like, please do not come in my dressing room. And not only you went to his dressing room. Here you go, figure pop. Now to disagree, okay, only because one I was never in competition with him. I never sang a song, and they mean it that way.

I positive before you rebottled it. What I'm trying to tell you is in our minds, we're all artists, right, I mean this, this, This might separate a lot of us from here in our in our mind and that's to be an artist, we have to think we're better than everyone here. To be a great artist, great discuss every idn't. This is what I think I can agree with. You play the role in damage in it. I own that and like I said, I'm not proud of that. I respect that, and I apologize for publicly because I

really did mean it. You know now in that moment I resented. Man, you feel me, which doesn't which doesn't make it right. Yeah, it makes it worse, it makes it worse. But in any way, shape or form, I never felt the competition in anybody and that's no disrespect to them. But coming out the gate, he was the first one to say it to me, Finn, you know you're the most famous in the group, right, And I'm like, oh, that's great. I never but I never. I never cared

about that, norder. You could ask my best friend. Right here, we was working to show to that let's get to the mall, let's get fresh, And you're like, I wasn't thinking about who don't see me on stage? I need my moment ship. We was on stage making pranks with each other, putting water in each other's shoes that you knew he was gonna have to put on on the next segment of the show, Like wat should I need to get out there and be splashing all over the places?

Like that's the type of shoot nobody was thinking. Like then I gotta be on point to be the most like I'm the most famous. Nobody thought about that. So I wasn't in competition with anybody. I was just out there having fun. I was a kid, you feel me. I was enjoying the moment and I wasn't in the moment like I felt like I should have been. But I was a boy. The way did you should say you something in hip hop. God could be a brother.

This is no big, this is the best STORYS and Big had no ideas because the world impeared them to each other. They were actually real good friends. If this just of ns and bigs hood, this picture is a bigg outside, they were actually real, real friends. But what happens is the world doesn't want them when you're the best. And I agree, like I said, I agree to disagree, but I gave my ricks on why I disagree because

mentally I wasn't there, but you feel me. But I can see how you see it on the outside looking in. So that's just where it's at, like, because I mean, I can't agree with his tactics and especially like me hearing you guys, hearing you guys out like I'm gonna be honest, I'm so sorry. I'm gonna tell you guys, I feel like I feel like I feel like his beavers.

But which makes it real is because he took it out on these two and it's like and it's like that's something, that's something, that's that's where the crazy ship is. You know what I'm saying. But oh no, I'm bugging. I don't don't how about a group, but how about we pauses like like I gave you examples like with the post to be ship with I never I never hated on again to bring up your film like I never tried to like bring up here, come out and

throw a dish record. I remember on my first album, come on right here, got the right now, I'm right here. Oh yeah, that's yeah, that's what we got right now that we got big right now, let me let me act you sign it. Because him being a member of BOK, has he ever had the discrepancy of y'all using b to K without him? We've never done that, and that's that's been one of the discrepancies. Bro was selling T

shirts with our faces on them. BRO was putting out documentaries with our likeliness without a signing off on it. Bros doing a lot without our consent, you feel me? So it's like, damn, Bro, are you in the group? Where you out the group because you you don't even want to talk to us, but you want to leverage everything you're doing off the name on one piece of advice, all three of y'all, not one of y'all said Mario's name. Y'all keep saying, bro and the and the homeblood, we

respect that, be honest with you. And I feel like this was regularly and Compone keep saying, because you know the homie and you know that, y'all, I'm gonna be mad and ship save my name in my name Definitely, he's likings, gonna watch this, gonna watch this, and he's knowing we're talking to him. It's not that I'm mad

about people that I'm mad about I say too. I feel like, if y'all not mad, just say you'd like because when you say the bro and B, that's how you're addressed you when you got to understand, he's gotta understand. That's gotta understand. You gotta understand when you're getting things. Because she didn't even let us finish the story about

the verses. Totally forgot I'll be quiet when the shots from and then you're in the middle of the verse and getting demolished, and then is writing your obituary in front of you, and you say, he said, you know you're supposed to bring the guys out. You can't do that. He said, I sang all these songs when you know them, is all my vocals. When you know the work we put in, when you know we know the process, when you know we know the real I didn't understand that, Okay,

you feel me? And then it's like, damn, bro, you still you still doing this, You're still coming out like why Mario called him out on the person, like like, who's really hating here? You feel me? Like, don't do that? Come on, dog, don't do that. Don't So so then after and all humor, I mean he I was the real least we find a Temptations clip that we put up and we tagged him and say you got served, just a joke, and it's all fun and games, like bro, you know you took the hill like them. You feel me?

I laugh about him? You come back and then you want to say, oh till my backup dances. It's like, come on, bro, now now you're being disrespectful. What about the treat you said that goes that goes into this after this, So I'm telling you right now, it's like, wow, now you're taking real shots, like you really you really saying like we helped with nothing, like you're trying to make create this narrative to the world that we hate on you and and we we we did nothing. The

backup game my opportunity. But it's like it's like, really, is that what it really is? So that ship really resonated with book. It was like wow, bro, like this is a real shot, Like this is off the ultimate disrespect. You feel me because we're having fun. We made light of the ship. You know, we threw up a movie clip, bro, taking how you want it. You know, but the world is saying, oh, he's done the boys just there. This

is a new beef for the marion Na. It wasn't that it was fun in games like Yo, hold your hell, bro, you knew you should have called this. You knew you should have had got on that phone call and not having a shell talking to whatever their tweekers ago. So he went into detail on it. Broke me. You really want this smoke? You feel me because the show Let's keep that ship all the way thought I'm making how we handled that ship. We kept some real respect on the game North. I mean we saw a little ship.

When the fan responded to the promotion for the verses and was like yo, because it was like a promote saying Mario verse, Mario, y'all thoughts up? You know that room the share room verses this person against that person. I thought, so you're already for this. Whatever they say right in the comments, nigging it goes. One of the fans say, hey, our beat UK gonna be out there with you singing the songs. Right, he did take he takes it up on himself. Oh yeah, I got that

ship right here for you, baby. He takes it up on himself. Hold on, my eyes sucked up on. Niggas want to smoke, I'm a smoke fun out here. Yeah, yeah, you see it, nigga kid, that's what he said. This is for the verses days before the birl, I said, nigga to read it. Put that read the circle be two k nigga, you want to show it to the children. I can't see y'all passed that. Sit around the room to see that ship. Bro, you want to see this right there? It's right, you say, he let me just

put it. Let's see it. They just said he bet it what he said it better. So I want to say, yeah, exactly, check it out. Check it out. Check it out. You want to talk about if you want to talk about some ship, right, you wanna talk about some some some RELs respect on the brand type ship. Right. So look, the next thing is my message to heard the blue read it out loud, read it out. I listened to Nigga the message, the blue message right there, No get them?

You know this, how y'all want to play? And then she said, huh yeah, ship, we can call me this person. This is going to be fun if y'all want to play. That's what I said to her in our group chat because we had talked about it, like, Yo, we don't even want to go in off this little ass comment. You feel me? We want to see that one. We want to send them a message respectfully saying we see what you're doing. Ge stun. We don't want this ship

to go the route that it's going. But if y'all do you want to play games, we could do that ship. So the ship progressed from the comment before the verses to the comment in the verses about and sing no no, no, no no, just saying that he did all the vocals. He was the one who saw all the songs or whatever, right right. So the next day we got on the phone and that's when the video clip came out. We

want to talk about the video clip. The the clip of the Temptations because we had already sent him a message saying stop, bro, Like that was a message to his management, like get your guy, tell him to stop. We don't want this to happen, Michelle. It was a menage, so we don't want this to happen. Stop. But if y'all keep on, I don't want to keep poking the bear. The bear gonna wake up, you know what I'm saying.

So after that, he goes on the verses and proceeds to keep going with it and make that comment about he is the Vocals and he did all the work or whatever, and Mario shut him down, like, you know you didn't do all that whatever. And at that point we feel like we told you to stop. So we made light of it, like you're fired, you kicked out the group, because that's what David Roller was doing in

the Temptations, right. It was joking, like all right, you want to disrespect is the people don't know that we told y'all to don't do it behind the scenes, and you decided to continue to do it in front of the world. So here goes our shot at you, nigger. You did two shots at us for our one shot comes back with an emotional towel about calling us background dancers. At that point, you're taking a shot at the career.

You're taking a shot at the ellectually craft as far as like how the brand was really most second, but y'all y'all took I took that job's funny. But you see that Joe is being funny. Why y'all can't take his job back as being funny. I'm sad to be because it was the narrative created around it first started to said when he first started the message, he said,

until my three backup dancers, I'm not surprised. Y'all always been this way hating on hate no oh, rand from my damn ran from my damn fall, like all the way UPS is hiring. Yeah, I think it's time y'all to find a real job. And it's like, like that's emotional, my nig, Like wait a minute, bro, when did we hate on you? Bro? Now you don't see that he said he saw ups is. Yeah, actually just ran into two p ups workers on this little dat I had and I wanted to take a picture with him. Yeah,

I just got all amazon like Yeah. It was like it was like that's how you're getting on. You're telling me, you're telling me that Amorrio said that about y'all think. Yeah, he's trying to create this narrative like we we dislike him or something like we're hating on him. Like I explained to everything to you from the time that we had a remembered that time. You can't take constructive criticism.

It's what that really is. And I think through over the years, we as brothers want to make each other better, so we would say certain things to any certain things

he just can't take right. He's still doing the things that we did when we were fifteen and when I hate on him, and I don't have much to say about him, but I think, you know, overall back in the day, to get back to to what we were talking about, as far as the comment being disrespectful and paying no respect on the crame new respect on them.

I says, it's like we always there when when the music is being made, when you're in the studio north you got your niggas with you, you might invite like everybody and tell everybody say it's not we all we all worked on that. You know, I'm just saying you might do that card, you know, what I'm talking about, Like you might do that ship, It might be somebody in the studio that I can sing a high note just for the record detection, you know what I'm saying, Like, Yo,

go put that on there for me real quick. Like the process of making hit music is not always gonna be the actual person who put the music out. If you look at the process back in the day, there was always a bunch of people working on a song to make it a hit, you know what I'm saying.

So the fact that he wanted to take credit from everybody who may have put maybe ten percent on the record, on the record, five percent on maybe one record, It's like you can't go and take credit for everybody and say that I'm the one that did all of this, because me personally, I did a lot of work on those albums, you know what I'm saying, Even if was just the sact. I was the first hook on Bump

on Book. Troy sent the record back to R. Kelly and he was like, dash the nigger that got the detection for the record for the hooks, right, And that's how on the second single, Girlfriend, I sung that hook and Troy was like staying there. I want you to do the first first, and she got Hella shippy at that point because if nobody had ever had a lead for a single aside from him, Nigga and all of our five seasons, because in the beginning was always the

least the whole tunnel. It sounds like I was telling you right now, no, this is what was fucked up. That really, this is what really fucked up. We all were famous, but I'll just keeping a hunt like him, battle back and forth with like a fan know who was a fan favorite, because we had a lot of different ways to be famous. It wasn't just about the vocal. We had the word with the fanzine ship. We had the video ship where they could time in and just say,

like who the funk they funk with or whatever. So it's like he would always want to be more famous than all three of us, you know what I'm saying, Because he sung the record. You know what I'm saying, He was the one in the front, and he was battle from who was the most famous or whatever. So it's kind of like embarking on your territory that you only hold. You know what I'm saying, You don't hold

the most famous. You don't hold the most likeable you know, you hold the only the only thing you hold is that you sing all the leads. You know what I'm saying. So now they're talking about oh on everything, Grass is about to sing the second verse ship ship starting to get broke up on what I hold? You get what I'm saying. All right now you're about to sing a part of the first verse with him. You're gonna split the ship. It's gonna be the second single, right now.

You got you you get You get what I'm saying. You're starting to lose. You're starting to lose the grip on the one thing that you really held because you didn't hold all the other things that you really wanted. So you get what I'm saying. When you start looking at it like fuck, I'm losing the game that I want to play. The only thing for Nigga to do

is break off. And at that point, I said it in a statement, whether it's five people or a thousand people, when we're not there, he knows all of the motherfucker's is there to see, you know what I'm saying. And that was the biggest problem. That was the biggest problem because we went through it No, I'm talking about why all of that ship was cat, why it wasn't why it wasn't right, Why it wasn't why, why like it wasn't cool to say that was background dances, you know

what I'm saying. And the recent background, the background background dances, not it was background dances, Bro, background dances. And the reason why he was skating the funk office because niggas was actually taking leaves. Now ship was about to change. One of the niggas that was the nigga. I was the um what nig nigga? That was me. That was all I got. Niggad some backgrounds that I didn't getting no credit for, but I was famous and some motherfucking

and ladies love nigga nigga. The ladies love Jake bug I'm sorry, Bro, give it up. Problem what they did and how I knew? How I knew this because I wasn't. I never was a nigger that I was in my ego. I just knew because I did numbers. I was at my meeting Greeks, nigger. I saw how many teddy bears I left opposed to you. I saw how many girls second read the articles on our second album, on our second album, the label found a way to sell more albums.

So what they did was not only did we have a group cover on the album, we each other cover on the album. And during the first week they did the numbers to see whose album was selling the most. Yes, yeah, we don't have to get into the numbers, get into it. That was the point too before. Yeah, that's how the if you really want to be honest, Yes, so now Mr what he's already losing to the rapper. What it is about to get what numbers is what that was sound?

I've never I've never seen that. I'm just you're not here. He's not close, but I did. So how do we fix this? Do we fix this? But you you've never seen what okay project? Right, like you haven't seen the record. But but you know there's a reason for that. You're not co siding this. You're not you're not you're not seeing just the three these says. The individual albums were sold with individual faces the same album. Say I'm saying no, you can't saying you co sign said, that didn't happen.

We smoked this ship put the shot because his fother happened. That didn't happen. That does not happen. Are you just credit my what I just said. I'm gonna remember because I said one, two or three and four. I want to remember, of course, definitely. But that's what we're talking about. You just said he was going deeper. No no, no, no, no no, no, you don't remember it. It was you don't remember them telling us the sales for each individual person. Oh no, I never read that one. Okay, but you

don't remember. I respect it if you don't remember. It was like that your three take a shot, three take a shot, and four's not here. Broix, I want to fix it. How do you fix this list? I honestly, I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna be a hunderd percent, which is very simple. Come to the table. We why why why do I have to talk right here? Bro You could pick up the phone. You could call me. You can call rash, you can call book listen. Before

we were aligned, like over almost two years. Now, I call Book, I call RAS, I said, YO, pull up to my house. I said, let's just talk. I said, nigga, if it's smoke, you know, nig just want to get down in the living room. We could do that, I said, but it's just gonna be us, just us three let's talk. And they did that. They showed up and we power out right there in the living room. You feel me, you could do that. He could, Oh, Marion can do that. He could call us and be like, yo, let's talk.

You know nice here. There's there's no, there's no, there's never been. There's never been a time and you didn't sit down and have a conversation. But it's like, why can't why can't we you can't go on play foodsball? I just think it's it's it's just about building the narrative that he wants. I won't play foosball. They no bess Man or paball Maria, you're gonna fail that you're in a microphone. I was conty, guys. That was because

that was a no, no, no, it wasn't. Actually it actually wasn't because when we before, before we even did the first Millennium tour, we didn't know we all had individual contracts. Later finding out from the promoter, Gary Gentry that put the tool on, said that A Marion's first contract had a close in at that if after this first tour and if it was successful, he got a

guarantee always contract. So he put together, you know, when we first signed up to do the first Millennium tour, like he had in his contract a guarantee second solo tour. And then mind you, the whole un bother ship, like I don't want to really say it put together called the un So when the whole when the whole April Ship came out, I put out a post and I tagged the lawn Unbother Club and then we went on the show we had on by the club shirts or whatever,

and then after that Mr ton Bather was created. Just bessing you feel me. It's just like it's like a lot of it's just a lot of like it's a lot of games played, and it's like, bro, it ain't even that you know, like just come to the table, have a talk. I mean, overall, man, we really are for kings man that that we stand on what we what we what we brought to the table, you know what I mean. And I think the real problem is

he dealing with his brother's friend. And you know how I want the nigga go away and he want to come back, but he don't really want to deal with the niggas that really keep it real like at least, oh, y'all, I might be yes man to him, y'all might treat him with some formum like level, not literally just understand like you because you don't know him like that. You ain't got the grind with him like that. And at the same time, no matter how big he gets, I've

been that big. You feel me, understand that big. If you come stand next to me today, I'm just as big as you. You know what I'm saying. It's back right, reborn, It's back special again. When we unite, it ain't about how much he did something. They're amazed to see us together. So when we do come together and we talked this dude ain't never about to give me no pass on no bullshit. He ain't never about to give me no pass no bullshit. So that's the conversation that's afraid to

happen because we're talking about from wounds. Look check see what I'm saying. Look, look, look, that's the conversation that we haven't since we do it. Bro, you know, let me finish, Let me finish. That's the conversation that we haven't had since we was eighteen years old and the group broke up, we came back and did the tour.

If you listen to the conversation on this documentary, I said, bro, we need to come together and we need to talk before we go on this tour because we have not talked to each other in fifteen years and since then. There was some ship. Bro, come on, you're gonna be differs. Fact. For one, they're gonna talking like damn, all right, say what's gonna say because I don't do that ship? Rock this ship? I said it was weird, all right, but I'm like talking to this legacy feeling come on, no ship, Like,

just do your ship. If you're gonna talk, it's okay. Comment came out too loud, say this is Ras, like Ras, I don't even weird, like like, oh it was weird sometimes like he's weird, and he was. He was actually going into detail least, but at one point they were saying, you was weird, rad Okay, we were talking about that.

That's going crazy. How so you know what, I was just young and I had misguidance and I had a great life and still do have a great life because I got my brothers behind me, and they still make sure because they love you and but what happens like at one point you was just off what they called it, off the grid. Yeah, he went to China. How long

he was in China? Like that? Seven years? My boy had banners up though, like Rasby in the middle of Tom Square in China, like you ain't and I want step on mark Uri, No, tell us about China, Bro, tell us about trying to what's the real question you want to ask China? He said he went off the grid? Why and then what happened in China? Well, last I checked, I read people were saying uh was being a criminal in China. No, he was like ja ja Pelle and Chine.

Not because he wants to be criminal China, Bro, this drink champ So afterl like I read, I read all the ship and said I was a criminal, And I'm like, why don't you going to China? Now? We're not trying to highlight any anything like that. Let's just what was tell us what business that much? I was definitely easy this Yeah, Asian business or Asian That's what I said. It was definitely having a good time and dry myself for Asian woman in line them up. You know, business

is great. You know what I'm saying, what point of trying to Shai Shai? My point I went to Shanghai because I went to but I didn't seem while I was out, Yeah you got a criminal. You were not really as I was actually really out there for that. I thought I was for several years and doing music out there. I was partially he was keeping the B two K legacy. Yeah yeah, listen, I was B t K Award shows. He was performing a bro still know all the routine, three other Chinese. I say something, this

dude right here, this dude right here. Bro, people don't know this guy has been damned near everywhere in the world, in the world bro, and knows every body. Rass Be. It's like, probably don't about don't about this channel right right the mics. Listen, rass Be is probably like the most in our generation unknown, like connected to like billionaires, millionaires companies that's going to rise ship that's like in the next ten years. Y'all brought this network, No, he

brings it to us. Ever. Know what I'm saying to every day to keep it moving every day every day. Niggas don't even know that they really knows. It's very true. I don't want to accept that flower. That's definitely a come on. You were talking about being in China, and it's like he went out there and created a whole life, Like you know what I'm saying about you and and and got he got bro to do connects crazy. It's

just humble, feel me. Is it something you learned about being out there to change your mind about coming to the business out here? He's gonna learned to grow up? Broca, you felt like you grew up in China. I feel like I grew up in China. China. Really when I came back, I grew in China. He created a hope another business man, the most suspecial sketches you ever see. We're turning about growing up and said, I'm not he said out there because you left right up? What I

mean that I'm in. We don't give a funk. We go back to it. I'm in. Good you what the Internet you allowed? Nig nigga? Looking ahead, I'm trying to tell the story you're calling man. I'm like, wait a minute. I said you had a lot of money. What you're saying, I'm sorry saying whatever that's that is? That is the Harden stone to be tick. That's the hard of fun.

Then how famous we all think we was? We was the favorite all that ship nigger the heart, nigga and the soul and use the plug and was about the next level. Ain't ship? Ain't she be content? Not being complacent? Like I ain't got nobody? How come every day every day, Hey, you winning? I can't keep up. Bro in my name, I'm not gonna lie to you as me how everybody do say? Bottle you drinking? You're drinking the phone. I mean I'm in. Let's just see if you can keep going.

Let's just see, let's see, let's go. Come on, don't let's go, come on, musty little musty community. Like I'm I'm the awesome. I got your b bro, I carry you out of that. You gonna carry nobody out ship? Well, I'm gonna carry that. I had one to minie drinks O ship, motherfucking carus. I'm not you got a testam, No, I got the wagon and all the ship. So yeah, so where's the after party? Where's it? The ivy ship? But I'm sorry, I mean I'm in, I'm in the ago.

I'm sorry, but I felt like we poured the shot. So I felt like, let's just came. We handle that business part first. Poor the shot, right, you didn't do it? He didn't hear it? Well, listen, we'll pulling on the one out there. Yeah, you're not ready for that. Hey man, my manager, it's sunny manage. You know, it's very deep that. Lets em Boris is your manager and Mr Lee is your card. Oh you don't really have a job. I

don't get in. They do a good job. I love the heat that yeah, so little come on, come on, you look at my shot. Communit yours Dina? Remember that. I don't remember. I was turning. You was out there drunk? What was it? Me? Drunk? No? He was O g Yeah that's okay. I mean you already said he said you paid for his meal? Right I did? Goddamn? But I was come on, so I was excited. Yeah, come we brk my staff. Now, yeah, I did that. I'll do that nine year at the barry. You have I

seen your shot? Yeah, I'm shop. Can I get some water? Yeah? You listen. I'll be honest, y'all. Drink the most water any guests if it ever great, and drink not you. I ain't gonna lie I'm watching each other because you own enough to your sick. But let me just be honest. Oh want a baby? I thought she was pulling me out some water. All that works a little bit. I was getting cold because I'm not calling you a little fish, and I'm gonna be honest with you. I'll be honest

with you. And said you drink the old shot. I'll be honest. I didn't drink this. I want to be honest because I was, and I wanted. I want to. I want to, but you know I want to. I want to be bending with the lesson you learned. I learned a long time. One of my friends were my closest friends to me, and I just became flat, like I just went from gold to platinum. But gold didn't mean that. At one point, Gold was like, okay, you you moved to you move five blocks away? That's what

gold man that? Yeah, Gold me like, you move five blocks. So eventually I kept getting money, keeping money. And one of my friends, there's a Chicken Delaware. I'm being honest. It's just Chicken Delaware. This is real ship. Next is I'm being honest Chicken Dellaway. And this is my man's girl. But he wasn't this girl. So I asked him. I said, say your girl, I don't know, and I was like, all right, cool. So I came back Delaware and I never did. And in the third time I came back,

I realized that this is what he's saying. He doesn't give so seems about the like the security guy. So I was like, I mean, let me let me do do a little better. I'm nottter for the security guar. Yeah. So it was at that moment a little better. It was at that moment just giving y'all example. It was at that moment when sometimes people say I don't do a funk about her, that's whatever, whatever, whatever, that's a lie. What's it's a lie because our masculinity's she says that

I don't care like me personally. Let me personally knowing what I know now, Like even when Goody said Goody's like, yo, I didn't like that. I've seen the shouts with Nelly. Neighbor's like thinking, he's like, so what you know what I'm saying, I probably somebody get it all about you right now, I'm listening. But when I did see it, because I met all of y'all, how do we wish

let him finish? No? No, But when I when I saw this, I was like, bach k would never be again, ever again because you didn't even hear what I'm saying. Oh I got on shot? What what? What? How old was you at that time when when you cooked up with uh right dirty two? Yeah? You you had no idea of what you was diving into. Because I think it's something called I think Will Smith said it I reperle and what it means. At least I got good face. I think at that moment you had entered the world

of irreparable. But no, don't let me feel it's because it's still this question we got to be coming back to you. But you went on stage and apologize. When you went on stage and apologize, did you feel like all was forgiven? What? What was your mind state at that moment? My mind stayed was, um, I needed to make amends for my actions perspect that that and you know,

I'm raising a little boy and I can't. I can't let that live on, you know, and not make amends with that in front of him and into the world and let him know, like yo, that that wasn't right, Pops, wasn't right for that you feel me. So I'm a I'm a man. I'm gonna on that in front of you, in front of the world and live with the aim. That's just what it is. It take forward, moving forward.

If if if if someone came to you and said, yo, fast open leaves you talking about drink champion when you said the dream chance, what would you do moving forward to make it right if you wanted to. If you don't want to, you don't have to answer this question saying what's said woman? Okay, so let's fs oh see this because y'all keep calling him the home because I'm

saying I'm saying this is me right. So let's say, o, Mario, I see this, and you say, because I believe that you your your apologetic I believe you didn't do that. I believe you got caught for that moment. But let's say to moving forward, would you've been willing to move forward and say, let me make amends for all of our brothers so we could go and feed our children. Well, I felt like I did that. I did that in

front of the world. Yeah, but but but but but but the world is stupid, right, that's not that's because you thought that you did it in from the world. The world is stupid. So now we're moving forward. If there's a situation where you can help move forward, what you do? Why not? The band is bringing in all of us. I love individually, you know what. I for the culture, I definitely would, you know, I would never

turn it down. I was the original member of the crew, you know, like and this brass, the one who kept it a love all these years, you know, like kept it in front of us and let us know, like, bro, this is nobody never hears me. This is what this is what it is, this is what's bigger, you know. And I realized it at a point like yeah, like I'm tripping, like this is what I'm supposed to be doing. He feeling. I believe. I think that's the whole thing is that we can't not to make it all about

you know. Oh, it's just that we all play a significant role in this ship. The biggest problem that's missing is that we can't have the conversation that we have with you right now, nor with him in the same set without all these people, without the camels, without all of you know what I'm saying that conversation, No, no, no, no, no, no, talk talk talk, you know. I'm just saying like, it's just it's just like for us to do it, all of this that you're talking about, it's necessary for that

conversation to be had. But let me ask something. Let me ask something. And I'm gonna start with you, Bras because you said you ain't say ship right. What do you think it takes to repair this relationship to make be two K? Be too? Motherfucker? I was trying to you don't have to create a whole of a special just for the bj K excitement. So talk to your partners. We gotta we gotta, like spring brain b K. Some ship is it's just an aura. It's not happening. I

think I think that's faking, Marian. Whatever you gotta do with the stoking ego, going to the tables and just presus no godless. Let me let me just say something. Hold on, rasp bro Raspby, be a lifeline, bro Rasby, Let me just say something. Hold on, hold on, rats brass. Let me let me just say something. Hold on, hold on, brother, brother, brother, brother,

Can he look at me, your brother, brother? Let me just say something because the other day I've witnessed that having for marm d had discrepancies, hold On had discrepacy. Was his manager named Storm Storm supposedly did whatever whatever, but years later having still has Storm representing him. Is that a situation that you're talking to them about. Is this is a situation that group forgive Christos to come

back in. I'm asking listen, I don't know, I'm the y'all on the y'all, But that's never That's never been night. It's never been about Chris because we didn't a millenium tour with three separate managers, with four separate managers problem, It's never been that. It's always been the fact that we just can't come it say the biggest problems that we liked go go goddamnit? Are you dropped? Because about time it's about let me keep my shot ready to

go ahead? Right, I've learned a lot. I realized I really don't have there's a way to deal with things in this think with Cold there's a way to deal with things. So I'm just I'm I'm gonna talk. Do you make noise for that's no noise? No noise little because we're gonna know what the dool cold you gotta be cold, a little brass, a little but were what you We're gonna make noise if you don't make sense. If you think we got let's go yo, Bro, I like because they just got me like this makes the

moise for me. Yos, we love you by I want to say this and so we love Brads. We a sept rights for everything, every r everything got a hold dB ras. Yeah, Bro, you just hella random you but but it works. Man, I don't know what JE call. Sometimes you gotta set me in the data being the drilla. I'm not saying you're old v Bro. I don't think people. Wasn't Tucock, wasn't Jim and I bro for the kids to do it. That's some ship. He was a kiddy.

Never got once. You're saying when I'm around him like, I like, I was no grass and be honest when I google you, grass is a lot of say all right when I work because I wasn't. I wasn't talked wrong. I was talked on and okay, no one never taught me right because you went to Bro. He paints my meal when I was a kid to be my friend. I'm delay, so I came down there you're great up, But no, I say that like he was hot, you know I struck. Yeah, so that's remember that you remember

that he wasn't him. But I don't got too much to say. It's your real name. After my time, I shut But let me let me just say something. You know, M B. T. K all three of y'all, um you you you celebrated people childhood. You are dominated the whole decade. Your dudes did what you have to do, we're supposed to do and how he supposed to did it and

you did it. And I was excited with my friend, you know, car Dan, the PRR car Dan, because I'm old your mom nigga car Then he said I got be to K. I said, there's no way because what you mean to the coaching, which I did to the coaching needs to be saluted, needs to be having flowers. Y'all need to understand that you changed the trajectory. Other than a new auditions and the Jackson fucking five, I've

never seen so many daughters getting fucked. I I mean, I've never seen so many people like I kid you not like because you know what I mean. I've been in the industry. I'm so deep in the industry at this time. Everybody's like, y'all need fucking b K And I'm like, who the funk? What the And they're like, oh Ship, I'm like ship, and I was like, oh, Ship is a real deal. This is the new new addition.

Can't we recognize? Can we understand it? And then the whole that's the reason why basic was not the new addition, Like you took it on the shot, I'll drink me on my shold. It's not the way to work. I'm drinking too, Like, no, y'all want a new addition to the new addition? Yeah you god listen this hoiw we saw I'm outside of looking in and I'm like, that's the only people I see since new adition that had the girls coming in fluence or talent wise. It sounds

I'm saying visually, facts fact. Come on a group like sound bag yourself. Why you don't want to take your own problem? If you take your own flowers back, I don't like it. Come on, flowers is talking about this? Is this? I don't flowers like, give me a trophy. That is a trophy. It loves to die. Take your shot, Take your shot. You just accept you got it yourself. Got appreciate like sash sprash at the point, I appreciate yourself. Hello, Brad, Yeah, tell you you can tell your camera that you want

to know. I can fetch my point. Go ahead, people you like that. No, let's say a shot solid. We were expecting you what you are. You can take you to side, Jake at some point like the going directly. You gotta appreciate that. Man, you gotta be like, yo, damn, we know we did something special. Man, Now you did something special. Bro, y'all don't know. And I just want

you to know. Man, Chell mean to the coaches, which you mean the people be two K was really anomaly that really came out there monkey foot and doing the y'all how to do. We don't really care about the break up. We care about y'all, you know, maintaining and keeping that carribie together. And we want to salute y'all. That's why we gave you flowers, and we want y'all to know that y'all appreciate it. Bro, you know overhere you know what I mean, and drink champs and we

love y'all. Man, we keep rolling if y'all can't. We were still rolling. Yeah, I want to say right back, you know what I'm saying, Like, we appreciate Shaw for even allowing us. No, no, no, for real, no, I just told us to except our flowers, you know, except except shorts. Y'all have created something for the culture, for us to be able to come on here and clear our name, to be able to come on here and speak. You want to check it out any time you want

to clear it. This is your platform, what you did for us. It's what you know others are trying to accomplish with doing documentaries, the numbers that y'all did, the

numbers that y'all do. You just allowed us to just you know, clear our name on a major level through your platform, bro, And that's love, you know what I mean, Because now we got this, you know, our voices getting heard do this, you know what I mean in a place where last week we couldn't speak, nowhere to get our voices hurt like this, you know what I'm saying. So y'all, y'all made that vessel for us, bro. But

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