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I remember me being so proud this is that way when I heard that, said, what is going on? This man here is a star, but the city at first it was like, wait a minute, because he didn't sound like the traditional New York City style. But boy are we proud fashion god icon Kanye west Side on this Shame show, I said a sat rocky dress is better than I never thought I'd heard that in my life. So when you got Kanye saying she like that, you
know this man is alleged. I don't even know. I'm so proud of you and where you're at and everything you're doing. I don't even know how far you go. But he's here, and he has whiskey. We've been on some whiskey ways. O case you don't know who I'm talking about, he's about one the only I'm a bigger whiskey drinker. You're a bigger whiskey drinker. This off top. I look at it and I think the Queen of England drinks this. No, let's just right with its just
with the Queen of English, some real royalty. How did you get a part of this company? How did you be a part of I heard you designed this on the Knapkin. Yeah, man, okay, we wanted to relate revolutionize the whiskey industry. You know, I think it's real traditional, old fashioned, right, but I think this puss a console. You know, that's how they make an old fashioned it's with talking early. Okay, okay, I made you. I heard you quite the connoisseurce some ad continue, So how'd you
can ahead? I think Now, we just wanted to do something that had a sophisticated touch, but still something that was innovative. So that's why we got the two cups at the bottom. Yeah, you know, you can share it with somebody, you know, it's it's decorative for the household. You can lay it vertically, horizontally, sideways, straight up. However, you like, you know, definitely made for a drunk nigger, like just really gonna mess it up somehow. So if
you drop, that's the fact. You can't suck it up. That's can't sunk this up. Well, so so this this, this this looking was already made or you went and um na, man. So it's basically it's blended, like it's a Canadian blend, but it's really inspired by Japanese messanora, oak barrows and stuff like that. Yeah, so it got that scotch taste and it gives a flavor and what
not in them. We kind of wanted like I said, we wanted to do something that was kind of sweet but snuck up on you like a like a nutcracker from New York and all that. You just say, nutcracker just makes some noise. Yeah, I'm missing nutcrackers by the way. Yeah, man, speaking of Rucker, this is a famous story that you metab. Yeah, he didn't want to give your order. Yeah, your top
five immediately, Yeah like that. Like I probably was like I saw Fab, Like listen, this is at a time when Cam and Fab ain't nobody flying right, So it's probably like when when uh Fat Joe had to rugger ship on Smash right, So it's it's a terrfort squad
team is playing. Anybody walked in this ways like two thousand two or some ship I don't know, Man, Fab come in at the a body while late, but some had on like the Raptors fitted that never came out throw back Raptors Jesus piece that looked like big joint. I was number seven Joins. I was clocking all that, like I've seen that. I was like, oh, ship orderly going. So after leaving, after it's sober and all that, I got my courage up together, I'm like your fab, I
could get a picture of autograph. It's like, nah, shorty, like what the security fab was about. He was with a little nigger. He was just like some nigga like my age type ship. I was just like your fami, like twelve or something like. Yo. My heart pounded. Could I could get a picture of autograph? He said, notes to the pictures. Then I asked for the autograph. But I could tell like he was looking around and all that type ship. So I guess he was trying to
be on ten. He's trying to be on a point point so you know, as a kid, it really ain't registered to me. I was a little hurt, so I went home and ripped down all his favors. You ever told him this story? Yeah? I told her. You know, he was like, wow, Yo, it's crazy. I should turned out. But I just learned from it, like I tried. I always try not to tell kids no because I always
here think of this future story. If you just said he met Scottie Pippen and Scottie Pippen didn't want to give him picture, that's so you think it's got to make sure you'll start taking every pure chick'll come back and get you, man, I'll go ahead and smell this. Man. You know what I'm saying. I'm gonna go ahead and smelling they We're gonna take a shot of something. We gotta you know what I mean this, This should go down easy and clean. Bean. We don't got those cues
being on point. That's right now. I'm gonna joy good all that it smells very good. Look, I know you're a professional, but you gotta take it easy. It smells very good. I get a lot. It smells way better than I expected. I expected to smell good, but that smellst way way better than I'm telling you. Yea mm hmm, let's do it. It looked like that, Yeah, yells above. Yes, your chance fellas chess. So I look to you, motherfucker, and your career and your life and everything you got
going on. Thank y'all for having me too. So good. Let's just describe what I was hitting everybody, um for information? You know, I just want to just google and maybe nor I'm so I was hitting everybody for information and one thing someone told me. It's like, y'all, y'all got a similar to two instances. Uh, when my album dropped, my father passed away. Um, I would had the number one album and I had to stay on tour. I
gave back the back back then. That's just how I used to pay us for the whole half of the whole tour. And if you don't have to do you you had to give back the half of the money. So Chris Light had to fly me out as I'm number one, but my father passed away because I had to fly me out and explain that to me, like, if you stopped this tour, you gotta have to give back all this money. So they said, me and you relate or to on that And they said, me and you relate to on one train one train. It's like
almost like band from TV. It's almost like the new version of the band from TV. And I was like, oh shoot, I never really looked at it like that. And then they said also said I have the same You know, I had the same case with a fan. It's just that I wasn't we have Instagram back then. We would be jail. We had Instagram back then. But a fan ran up on me. This is real talk. And I never spoke about the fan hat ran up on me and threw a bike at me. What he
was at. He was in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. I used to live in Harrisburg, but I heard about I heard you was Duff and Nike's out though. No, that's a lot of something. Thank you, thank you for accident. Question. So no, no, no, no, that did not happen. Not what you say when you're still saying you did it. No, that didn't happen. Honestly, honest. Fans was following me and this is what happened. I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna say you how similar it was.
The promoter didn't have the rest of my money. The promoter gets on stage and says, you know what, he says, he doesn't want to perform for y'all because y'all's not you know whatever whatever. I could imagine how the crowd of spilling, They're like, what he had the number one record, he's here, he don't want to They don't understand the business. So they followed. So so we get out the securities, like we gotta get out this. This is kind of ill.
So the fans follow us and they literally followed me and were telling them your chill man and promoters line letteral me fin and throws a bike. So then my boys get out and they do their business. But I had a seven thousand out of lawsuit that day, boom whatever that that day that you know, and how to get arrested and to get all that for a fan following me. Word, so you was being antagonized and all that and targeted. You know who made me beat the case?
A police officer came and said that was a lot. Nor we never got out the truck and that's how I beat the case. Or a police officer, the same one that arrested me. He said he couldn't lie and get and for that, you know, but she is, oh it is smooth man, I ain gonna lie. This is impressing me. It's hard to impressing me with whiskey. That's not quit with that ball ship man, and we don't drink chimps. Yes, had they come right, but not as crazy though, because that whole situation is parallel to my
Swedish situation. That's because I got just I had to watch it today just because you know what I'm doing, and I could literally see the guy following you. Yo. You know, I ain't want no smoke, right, I ain't want no smong. I don't even not We're not going to Sweden for smoke. I was looking for architecture. So how does this turned into a case against you. I think it's like, uh, it's a It was a bunch of factors, bro. Number One, we was in a foreign country.
They you know what I'm saying, they got their own rules over there, they got their own way of doing things. And ship. You know what I'm saying, a lot of this ship was prejudice. You know, racism, classism, all that ship.
You know that that's definitely a factor. But she got funky when like trumping that start getting involved, when they tweeted that didn't help you, that hurt you, low key like that's when they started trying to like apply pressure to us and all that like, and it was yeah, like the police and the jail, Yeah, the authorities over there crazy. Yeah, they was on some sucker ship. They don't even let us see the embassy or nothing like that for like two weeks and we ain't get no visits,
solitary confinement, no regular jail. So I'm gonna be honest, though, I think Trump was a gangster for that. That was gangster. That was gangster. That you're saying, Okay, we don't never make noise for Trump. I don't think if you ever made noise for you, I'm scared to make noise for because I ain't gonna lie. I don't think Joe Biden would have came and got you. Nah, I don't even say I don't think that. I don't think coming outside since he got elected, I ain't really been seeing Joe
like that. Joe was a let down. Joe was let down. I'm not I'm not what's it called democrat public here, I'm not even independent at this point. I don't know what I am. But I ain't a Joe Biden fan. I can tell you that he ain't been outside at all.
I know you think he got all of those minority votes and they made the crack law to smoke crack crack pipes, like so it's legal, and ship ore again and other places and ship, but like you got to realize this motherfucker's that still going down over Rico and aspiracy ship and all that from eighties and nineties is still serving time for the same ship that they allowing the same rules that they wrote. You know, he passed those laws with forever yo, no, lie, and we we
we saw kodak Um what Trump? Would you go see Trump? Now that everything is out the way, I think it would have to be an agenda. Would it would have
to be a reason. You know what I'm saying. Like at the end of the day, I think it's just like I ain't never think you, brother, I ain't never want to come off unappreciative and like make it seem like, you know what I'm saying, like an asshole about it, because like when you locked up and you don't have communication with nobody like that, ask like you just want to visit and let us something like that. You know. It's funny. Um I'm walking into um so one of
my restaurants and they co pulled me the side. It's like, yo, um, somebody want to see you back there. So I'm like, all right, cool, I go back there. It's yeah. You know who's he was? What's his name? Jared Kushner. You know that's the actual guy who sent the people for you and he when he describe that story, I was like, this ship is ill. Like the fact what they did, Like like I'm saying, what they did that was kind
of like gaster to me. He tweeted it out. At first, I was like, wait a minute, that tweet might have been wrong, but he did it. That's fire. Yeah, not like so I was. I was on three way calls with with Lou Benger and he was like, basically the only person I could call was on my list after two weeks, so I used after my man Lou here called like everybody up or whatever. So he's like, your call, yeah or whatever. So we called. We called Barry my man Bari like not call you funk this. We gotta
do something about this. We call yeah, you're about to hop on the jet, like yo, I'm coming over there now. I'm like, they're not gonna let me yell. They let me out like three weeks later, you know what I'm saying. In three weeks in the sweetest that was a month. It's a month. Yeah, you want to living that life. I was sick and the speak a different language. They
speak a different language and all that. But the brothers like, so you know, for twenty three hours or whatever, you gotta be in your room, but get like at least an hour of thirty minutes upstairs or whatever. It's like
this little outside area. So I was speaking to a lot of the brothers that was locked up out there with not you know what I'm saying, and they're translate for me, like what they were talking about on the news, because I didn't know what they were talking about on the team every morning, headline, news, every that's all they had to talk about. What do you think about the girl that said krazy now in Russia and run? Yeah she got she got caught with vapora. Yeah, but that's
because of the warship right now. That's yeah. Oh I thought it was straight. I thought this happened. They're using that that car again, what advice could you give up? She got cold gas? They say they caught her was something. That's the excuse they're using. And they say she's looking like years or something. Something crazy, that's what that's what they say. She's trying to give a five joint something crazy, Yeah, something. It's all because of the political ship right now with
the war, that's what it's all about. That's different. Damn all right, Yeah, that's different. She's still in it. Yeah yeah, and there's you know that communication is broken down because all the beef, all the beef. You I've seen something like that but like I ain't even word, I ain't even know Shorty was still over there. Yo, you gotta pray, pray for people right now, that's real, not for none. I was just I was happy about like a lot of the support that I was getting a lot of
that ship was just the thing to say. Motherucker's was just saying it because it was the thing to say at the moment. A lot of people really just like Dan, that's fucked up, you know what I'm saying. And I appreciate all the support I had, so like, I definitely need to support Shorty. I ain't even know no funny ship. That's crazy. Now I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you in our community. And when I say say our community, I'm not even talking about black community. To my entertainment.
We felt that was a message to us, like like it wasn't just about you, it was a message to everybody who goes to Sweden, goes to Finland in certain places like that that it's it's it's you're nobody over there. You're still you're still you know what I mean. We could go back to back in the days. It's just
like I think Will Smith Smack wasn't Rock. I think it was to all the internet, to the memes, you know what I'm saying, Like he's rich as ship, but you still that you still can't play with a person's things. You're gonna through it? Well yeah, yeah, Will going through it. Yeah, you know, I was shocked because I thought it was staged. I started seeing memes. But after that, I said, damn bro going through it. Yeah, he's gonna yeah your family,
you know, Will and Chris. I'm a fan man, like you know what I'm saying, Like I'm a fan of Will, Jada, Chris, all of them. They oh geez. Yeah. I think it's unfortunate that like he emasculated another black man in front of all of them people like that, you know what I'm saying. But I do think that like it's some built up ship that probably wasn't really targeted at Chris Rock. I don't know, it just seems like it's more like what you said, it seems like it's more than just
a g I Jane Joe, Yeah, cars one. Sometimes when you play with somebody that you know, it's kind of disrespectful, like like you know what sayuse you know, you know you know me and or my lady going through something. It ain't just for TMZ. So it depends on if him and Chris had that relationship. Then I always tell tell Michael Blacksman, I never agreed with him when he kept going at Kevin Hart. Uh, when Kevin Hart was going through his his thing and he was like, no,
but no jokes is He's like, it's never overboard. It's no jokes is or for limits. And I'm like, yeah, I think so if you've got a relationship like I'm not doing to do no ship like that. You know what I'm saying. Now, I get it. I feel like I think that, um, I think comics and ship like they got like this this underlying like you know what I'm saying, like agreement whatever you want to call it, just a cold Yeah that I think that they got
that colde nothing it's all limits. You know what I'm saying, Rocky, we got that same cold to when it's a current event. Yea. If if if down the block, Coil Taco just just explodes, I'm not thinking off top. My friend owns Coil Taco. So if I say I'm blowing up like Coil Taco, I'm not meaning disrespect to him, but I'm using the current event at the time. Yeah, you know what I'm saying,
but it's still feelings involved. Yeah. I don't know, man, Like I don't really know them grown folks business and me need I don't want to know. But they they made us, I mean right now, because I'm saying, like, don't they always say we can't get y'all night, Like they finally gave us to Oxes. We got Will Smith fighting now, Yeah, it's real. Ship is well, look is real packing and everybody they they had a meeting and Tyler Perry he didn't Washington poke Will the side like
it was in You see that, You're sorry. I'm like, damn, this ship is ill and it's crazy. They didn't kick him out of nothing. He still want the oscar he can't us. That is some tough ship, man, That is some tough ship. You know. Um hey, sad. One thing that threw me off about the liquor collaborations. I always thought you would drop a clothing line first. Yeah, like I always thought that you would, especially after hearing like Kanye, one of the most stylish people in the world say
a sat Rocky dresses better than me. I'm like, that's the name of he sat rhyme right colon I right there. It's best better to be well you never gotten to clothes. No, No, I'm in the clothes, but your own all the time. Yeah. We do ghost designing for some of your favorite fashion ghosts ghost design like so that's like ghost right here.
Yeah exactly. So like if say, if like I'm never the head designer at I don't know, Chanelle or something like that, right, Like I could go and get you, you know, I could commission you to design something for me if I funk with your ideas and stuff. Was like that. We've been doing that for like eight eight nine years now because I got my own brand. It's oh, he's just with Nico too, right Niko, that was a collab with my brand, just did him. We did him
and say these bends collab or type of ship. Yeah, man, you see the collab coming out come on so fashioned. You know that's what's upped man. So nah, yeah, trust me, Like we're the reason like when they come to fashion like a lot of names that's like dominant. Now, we were the reason that you know they live right now, Conda, so to speak, I'm a little tipsy. No, I don't worry about it. I'm about to take some champagne because it's celebration where we heard you was in Brazil to up.
We understand what's going on. We understand what's going on, but we want you to know. Off show was about getting people their flowers on they Love Today face. So we want to get your flowers personally, I said, flowers. Flowers personally, you don't make noise. Yeah, what's what's your Yes? Yes, yes, they're so decorative. Yes, now pull it out from and this is this is a brand that I got this elegance right here. Yes, I'm then thank you for this all love my brother out the way to be on
the wall though. Yeah, damn, I'm throwing you. Are you coming to my house that I'm gonna need this? That's what I Yeah, I can get those cups you using that right? Go ahead, there you go. So let me let me let me reiterate what I said earlier. It was a time New York we just was quiet, quiet on the percent. And I don't want to say you came out of nowhere, now we kind of did. But and I remember that video with you in the basement I think it is. And you're rolling dice and you
got to got to get the band down. I'm like, oh, ship, yeah, what what? What? What made you make such a h because you one million percent no that's hard. Yeah, what makes you make such a hard on video when at the time we're quiet because we just broken ship, he was dead ass sharing forties and down packs of Hayes type ship. Like you know what I'm saying, Like he's still sell down now, like we're all shipping everybody like four niggas on one Dutch type ship. But like we
were just showcasing what we was doing every day. Like we literally all we cared about was buying clothes fucking bitches ship like that. Like we was young man. You know what I'm saying. Now things will changed a little bit. So I think like our perspective in our capability and accessibilities is widen and we got more access to do more innovative things because showing you the minimalistic ship and I was just like a insights to what our everyday life was, you know, twelve years ago, and who was
directing those visuals. See That's what I'm saying. You're looking at a renaissance man, yea, I direct mostly all my films, man, you know not I'm working with with my boy Hoji. You know Hojji films a lot of old guy's dexter you know a lot of my folks. Man. Yeah, we we we visionary. So it's really about raising the ball. Like when it comes to visual components and ship like that, I think that that's like a dyeing. That's a diet sporting just right now. So all about like fifty five
second kind of clips and vignettes. It's not really about like full LEMP music videos ship like that. So unless you're doing a feature film, most people don't give a funk, But I still do song. I'll be making videos and something that pulls you in to that environment. That's what I get out of these visuals. Say that again, it's stuff that pulls you into the environment. That's what I'm getting out of these visuals. You do, no thank you. I mean, I think you come from the old school brothers,
So like that was a that was another component. So you couldn't put out a song or nothing without like a video back in the day and none of that. Like this ship just started changing in the past like five years four years or whatever the case really three, I sing, let me ask you because, um, this is
an ongoing question that we we always have here. It's like, you know, the New York show you love and uh and and well I bring it back to the to the conversation because I asked Jay this, I said, and Jay goes, New York didn't show me love like he said when he first came out, said, New York didn't up sept big. How was it for you when you your first came out with the city madly accept you had to build it. They just didn't know where the funk we was from. He was from Ham or the
extra newest type and all that other ship. But motherfucker's was like, Yo, these things from Cali or are these dudes from like Memphis or the Midwest? Cleveland or Texas? Like where these dudes is from? Because you wasn't using the traditional New York sound. You was using your sound though. Yeah, it was something we developed and that's why we felt like the world needed to hear it. I'm all about
development sounds. That's why I take so long to release music and ship like I'll be on some other ship. I've only fun with people I'm mostly admired people who got their own kind of style and sound like you know what I'm saying. My voice sounds crazy right now. Part of me drinking some more of that Mercer press because drink somebody that I got. You kill me right out? Well, let me let me get let me feel filling up again. Sneak up on you, quick Time slot'll be ready. You
sent it? Cool? You said I ain't sent it if you sent it? Oh, okay, all right, m niggas quick time staff, Quick Time Slot. This is a game we played with all of our guests. You can you can pick. You can pick one of the other. Oh yeah, I saw this. Okay if you if you pick, if you pick one of the other, you cool. But if you pick both or neither, you gotta take a shot. We can take a little shots though you can't are We're going. We're drinking in yo ship. We take it yore, okay, Prince,
Mercer Mercer Prince. That's the street in New York. Yeah, that's street. Yeah that's not where you from from downtown. Sound rich, it's but it's premium, so you know, it's affordable for everybody, accessible for everybody. But they said whoa, but it's design and all that. Like, we just wanted to make sure it's accessible though as bottle. Yeah, care about the people way more than me. I'm gonna make this three hundred easy easy, I don't think. But and I only sold it to my fans. I wouldn't told
it to be ain't me. You got the good buy, you ain't gonna you ain't got for you. That's how I would get down. Let's let's let's let's let's make let's make sure you love because he cares about y'all. He cares about y'all. He's making a great product in a great bottle, and he's making it affordable. So you can buy a case. Anybody could buy a case of this. You know people don't really walk around with cases. You can buy a case of this. The case is crazy
to buy, its design and everything. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. You'll take You took your time on this. Yeah, I appreciate that absolutely, man, Thank you. Remember you pick both take a shot. You gotta be crazy because we've got a long so d M Max or Tupapa. Damn, why do you do that? It's meant it's meant to trick you. I ain't gonna hold you. Take a little shot. Take a little shot. It's very smooth and smooth without the ice.
You gotta drinking meat, Yeah, I ain't gonna That's how Jay drink is Okay, but it's kicking men some of these questions. All right, punk Coolgi rap Damn I hold on. So I want to say Coolgi ramp flow is different. Yeah, but punk float. I mean that in the middle of a little and a little did you know anybody know that everybody And this is hard to ariz that everybody knows. If you don't know that, you're not you're not. You gotta take your hip hop card away if you don't
know that, that's a fact. I'm gonna say, uh, damn gang like. But I feel like without like no disrespect, it wouldn't going to be a nas or something like that with like like a coogi wrap or something like that, not you know what I'm saying, Like, it wouldn't be a lot of motherfucker's But damn punished, I don't. I'm gonna have to go with damn, why are you doing this? This is let me let me let it up, Let me go up. My boy's gone it's a much different
when it's cold. Who the hot one for me back? Okay, Jada kiss a fat? Oh you gotta red lines like Fabrish always gonna be like fab is always gonna be my idol. Like you know what I'm saying, He's always gonna be like one of my number one idols. Like I don't care. I put them up there with like rel and yeah, you know, just just because like you know what I'm saying, Fab raise me like killing them
and he's jimming them and they raised me. But um, hey the kiss kiss got that one kiss like kiss different. Yeah what I'm saying, fat different tool. But it's it's not right. You're making me choose between both of them. That's crazy to make somebody choose between kissing Fab and you know that they'd be doing tapes. They need you next with it broverses together, Let's be clear. Yeah, I'm gonna go kissed. Okay, makes sense doing over that Fab ship.
I think about this one because to the name, I don't know which way you could go, rock him or Kane rock him name got the rock? Yeah, but like the gangs to what your parents just like, don't sleep on Kane flow No don't sleep on Kane obviously, like Kane was that nigger because like I mean, like he might have look around, had a three soone like Madonna or some ship back and we've seen the type of his drawers was a little crazy, but he was sweet boling.
It was very artistic. O'm on, God, I got he was on his pretty Flacco ship back there, but like I funk with the pretty boy ship. You know what I'm saying. That's why I with Kane, but Rock Kim it flows to another level. Like you know what I'm saying, He flows to a whole another place. And I'm name that to the guard. So you got to go like this, I don't know what you're gonna do the Harman you was gonna be pulling aside mace or camera. Why are you doing I'm getting my shot ready. I'm just getting
my shot ready. It's literally you don't gotta go crazy little shot, yo. Are you different from whatever? It don't matter whatever, car just ask no vague question like that. The whole game is about. I mean give me like it's whatever you want, whatever you want see man, Like all I'm gonna explained before I make my decision. You can't explain Mace was that nigga bro Like Mace took this like he took the hallowed world ship to another place and he I mean essentially he put cam on
and all that, right, But um, Mace flow better. But I gotta go and kill him. Mace flow better, though you're given an explanation while you're gonna kill it. I'm going with killer because like he when I was growing up, he hadn't really tapped out, Like he didn't quit, you know what I'm saying. Like not to say Mace quit, but he not. Mace quit for a little bit. He found the Lord. He found he quit. Why they're laughing. He turned the corner around, you know, he found God
like he was happy for him. We gotta be happy for Mace. We're happy for Mace and we're happy for yeah. Man. No, I gotta go and kill it though, because kill it like this one. I don't know where you could go with this one, dip set or the locks im and get my drink ready. Now I know who I'm gonna pick. I know who I'm gonna pick. This ship just crept up on me too. I want to drink some more. So I'm trying to get you not to pick buker hat if I ever, if I had to, damn damn.
Now I'm gonna do a shot. Shot the hall m in me. I gotta do it. Shoot they all watching, They're all gonna send a clip to each other. Shot was I was deep blocked? Such Yeah, this is a part of the game. Drake a little Wayne Wheezy because how easy ain't and wheezy like to this day he can't be funcked with. Like nobody rapped better than Wayne and faster neither. He sent you back a record at Katie and Eminem up there with the rapping fast No, no, no,
not something fast back the record now Wayne, to embarrass you. Okay, we're talking about um days, Wayne embarrassing because he do quick. Oh yeah yeah, yeah, okay, okay you own balls. Yeah but yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I fucking wheezy. Okay, big l or Biggie Smalls, big back to hard Yeah, big shout out to br g Yes woo tang or n w A. Damn you know you're sucking me up a gamester. I'm gonna I'm gonna go and get a shot ready for this one, for the next one. You know what
I mean. So I'm ready, you know, so I'm gonna explain this. I got you. I got a lot of elaborating to do. I gotta explain, like it's your show. Thanks for having me. Look when it comes to like with n W, a different coach and all that, like that's different, right, like you can't really compare. Yeah, but um damn, I'm tipsy. But who the other Blue Tang Tang, I ain't gonna lie. I gotta funk with the Woo.
I gotta go to the Woo man come clean like Resident, that's different Resident, Like that's different O d B. Like you know what I'm saying. My favorite rappers are from Wu Tang for the most part, was really like it was ghosts and Meth but like I ain't gonna lie.
Inspected Deck was that niggle. Inspected Deck was really that nigga like now but but like just it was the philosopher like niggas get to yeah, like you know what I'm saying that they get too, like don't get me wrong, and W gave us birth Ice Cuban you know, dre and ship like that like easy, like come on now, like you know, we can't forget about that, but like, I ain't gonna lie who did for me? Being the East Coast New York nigga, like, it was different. I'm
gonna go. I'm gonna go wu tang. See. I always gotta go with both on this one. I could do that. Yeah, that's who remember that. Yeah, I wanted to a a good stop, but I always go for both because of my childhood, how much you know, when n w A came out, I didn't see their videos. We didn't have videos like that, so I had to hear their music and I had to visualize and I was just like, I never want to go to Compton, Like I was scared of death
of Compton. That's that ship was like the way you even describing that ship, I was like, hell no, let's it might have been the first time that that kind of emotion was was in hip hop music and rap music at the time. That was a BIRTHECT gainst the rat right. Well, I mean if you could credit iced Tea for a little bit before that, I'm talking about that emotion before you know, you got before that. You know,
dougg you fresh Liquor. That's great, But school D was like yeah, yeah, yep, yep, as gainst Rap had it for or State Property too the movie. Yeah, I ain't gonna hold you. I was watching State Property one who was gangster. I ain't gonna lie you. He'll help look my sad, but realness, I mean both of them, and pay them for tonna hold you hold on. Let me think where he was that and paid them? I was, I was he d the race. I was asked, you know what I'm saying. He took us all killed twelve seconds,
twelve seconds, but I killed seconds. It might have been Yeah, I got the best thirty five seconds in cinema history. I'm gonna go ahead. I gotta go and pay them for of course, which is ironicly bringing me to the next rich Port or a Z see. A Z was a real good money nigg but he started out like it's not nose and ships. I respect the hustle, but like rich, like being a fly nigger was just in them broken. He was just a flying nigger right here.
Like him make a hunt it look like a male so like he used to make that ship look good. He used to put that ship on so like when they came down to it, I'm not have to go Rich rest in peace, haze on sour with diesel, were smoking soars Okayward, but I ain't smoking. I'd rather do cush though, bro, like you like you're trying to take niggas the auto ball right now. Definitely definitely missed sur Deesel and I missed my man has some haze nah
tasting like Reggie these days. That's what they said. That's what they said, Little hay sating like Reggie Ray, That's what they said. But I ain't gonna lie. That's it brings me back. You gotta remember it was the time that only Uptown had the haze. So me having Hayes coming from a Queen's nigger, going up town and in a National cab and coming back with the kicking pre tape and some haze. I was flyings like you know, you ain't got hay like we had black weed and
queen at the time. It wasn't the best arian chocolate we had we had at that time, the exotic regil. Now we we're here now though, Dame Dash or Pop Daddy Yo, come on, no shot, all right? Hold on, man, like the accolades of both of them brothers is crazy, man, Like you know, we take yeah, we gotta take a shot. I can't choose, but man, I love them both. M hm, you'll be badass or Action Bronson, who yo, y'all niggas
is random. That's crazy. I ain't gonna hold you like all right for me, Like Bronson, he filed because like his voice sounds so similar to like ghost faceship right, Like he sounds like ghosts and all that, but like he put his own his own to his own twist on it. And I personally got so much love for that dude. It's not even funny. Man, I was a big buddy. I got so much love for Faction processing.
But I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go with Joey based off the fact that I feel like he pushed that agender more for like real East Coast like boom back backpack, like real like you know, nostalgic golden Arrow hip hop. He reminded me close to a boot Camp clip exactly by himself one man. Yeah, but he modernized the sound. It's true, you know. Pro ever alright, pSTS, you know what I'm saying. Much loved the Bronson and uh Joey man or dope, but it wasn't they they both was
on one train. That's crazy. Yeah, that's why we picked it. I'm about right now. No five five year old Tyler the creator got crazy with deuces. Man, it's not me, yo, man shoutouts five man, you know what I'm saying. I was to take a shot of this. Okay, that's too random to answer. Tyler's liken't really like brother man, he's retarded. He plays with you. I can tell. I can tell you I really like brothersn't really like each other. But I can tell you don't be liking to some of
his jokes. You know, I'll be looking at the internet to it. Yo. Then they get the rapping Dave Chapelle he had clamn brother, he played too fun. That's my buzzing. No man, my boy man, let's play to fucking much. Let's makes something to time. This one might be designed just for you, right, push your tea or Travis Scott
push push it like lyrically push you can't even like mom. Yeah, just answer that quite fast, because it's like oh G. It's like oh G. You know it getst like you know somebody that's like arguably like more of a newcomer type ship. So I'm gonna just say something real quick, because you know, I had to google you because I wanted to do my job right. And like I said, I also was havnt, uh, you know, making phone calls.
But one thing that I kept popping up on the internet is Travis Scott stole his whole style from from asap Rockey. Yeah, he's trying to figure out how to access question. Thank you for reading my mind. Thank you for reading my mom. Is that something that you entertain Now you can't You can't feed in the petty ship like that what I'm saying, like at this point, that ship trash at this point, But did you feel like
that at one point? I mean I saw similarities for sure, you know I saw that he was inspiring and ship like that. But that's what we're in it for. Like that's good sportsmanship. I put it to you like this, like if niggas wasn't like biting off, you know, imitation best form with flattery people, wasn't trying to imitate you doing something wrong? Because it's like, I'll tell you something that made me I used to hate being compared to mom dep like I see that like seeing that, thank you,
thank you for correcting me. Three breaking for correcting me, not nor seeing that and because we were different, but we are get me made this thing type of music. We were different, but from for me when I did my solo, for me to get away from it, it was like I had to mess with someone like for someone that was something totally from out of my world, you know what I'm saying. And then that comparison never happened again, super super thug. Yeah that that that record
changed me forever. No one never compared me again to Mark Deep ever again. But I had to do that. Is there is there ever been something in your career where you just felt like, yeah, I gotta do it just to make my mark where I'm a SAP and they know that I didn't know no one could do what I could do right. Everything I do that, I'm
I'm gonna keeping humble. I'm keeping modest for everything I do. Man, I just really want to push the ball, like innovation and raise it, you know, right, Yeah, that's fine, that's fine, that's fine. Okay, let's moving on. Kindre A cole Um. I respect both or I'm gonna go with doctor k. Yeah, I'm going with Kendrick. I'm not that close with him, call him Kenjake. I'm a fan only brothers O D B or Bis Markey. Come on, damn, I'm gonna go with O dB because that was more of my ever.
Bis Markey is one of my favorites. Okay, it's ah um well, not the breakfast clubs, the Juice club. He was cool, d was cool, dreams cool. Rest in piece to both, rest in piece to both of them, piece both. That's crazy Fat Joe or Ross oh ship Um yeah, I like them for like different reason. Reason. That sounds like a shot to me. Yeah, that's a shot. Sounds like a shot me. I'm gonna do. I'm gonna do a hot one too. Bro, you really like you're doing
major shots right now? And take it easy. Me. I told you all this ship man, I was supposed to take a couple of SIPs. Let it sit in the house drinking it, right. I got the water shots and I'm drinking this. I did my shot too. I go crazy. It fights back, It fights back, gun play or then sell curry. Damn, that's a good one. That's a good that's a beautiful one. Uh shout out to the home team.
Damn yo, gunna play tough. Yeah, like I love he first of all, gun play slept On absolutely, don't play slept don't plays Hall, don't play slept I've been saying that. I ain't say he slept On because I live out here, so I get to feel his appreciation. People out here, Yeah, they get he gets his love out here, but he's supposed to get more love my first album, that's Hall. I ain't sleep on him. You know what I'm saying, Um, I gotta go with and Denzel's wild. Just Denzel is tough.
I I'm gonna go with Denzel right now, just right now, just because I feel like them play made his mark, but I think like we didn't see the we didn't see the rest of the Denzel. You know what I'm saying. I'll get it Max b or you all Santana, Damn, I'm gonna claar. I'm gonna go with Max because he's a wave. But elves young Els can't feel my face. Donna play with that man like that was a crown
on his head. You know what I'm saying. He wasn't sucking with Santana like I love Santana to deaf man, Like, let me ask you, why do you think he ain't putting out as much music right now. Like I'm literally sending out a tweet the other day and he hit me. He was like I got to I was like, yo, man, I want to hear something the music, Like, what's what's going on? I really don't know. It's crazy though. I think, Um, I think he's probably got a hustles and ship going on.
You know what I'm saying, Just like you know, or you don't want to put out music, I'm saying I don't want to put out music's saying that ain't coming out he said when he said that, No, who do you be saying that? Since he came from the can, they're gonna drop this. And I'm a fan, so you know, I want to hear that he's being a perfectual. I want to get my call and I want to I
want you know what I mean. I think it's a different playing field than when he was in the game or when y'all was in the game, so to speak, Bros. It's different. I don't know. I don't know if maybe he's studying the playing field right Yeah, that's getting that love of hip hop, money to love hip hopin that it ain't no bullshit. That's chicken. It ain't no bullshit, especially if you're doing other things. It's I that's crazy. I don't know. Nobody hustle, gona get it. Daddy Brown,
Yellow Wolf, Damn, I'm gonna go with Danny. I'm the reason why. Look, yellow Wolf is tough. But the reason why I'm going with Danny is Yo, this ship. I can talk about this all day. Just yeah, I ain't just like faking the funk. But the reason why it is because like Danny give you the bruises, like he meaning like he got artists and ship that's just like
eclectic and different in their own weight. You gotta check out a lot of his artists and like zee Loopers and all them, Like Danny is really the godfather a lot, a lot, a lot of this uh like cloud rap where to rap whatever you want to call it, Like I would Eric. He wanted the like he wanted the Mount rushmore tite niggas like ship, you know Davies Oto. Damn, that's that's a hard one. That's really a hard one. Shot. I ain't gonna lie. I'm gonna go with though I
was halfway hold up, I can answer this. I can't take back a shot. Was ha, Yo, you funk with that ship on on the on the ice, but on the rocks. I'm liking both. Yeah, I like you. I can't see which way and be too watered down, you know, I see, but that water is supposed to do something, So I like both of all. I'll be like, funk all that, that's not that's how j C drinking. But but he's trying to get lit though. Yeah, yeah, he's trying to get lit. I'm on that mission right now.
I'm gonna i'na want to get a little tipsy. New Jack City or Original Gangster New Jack City feels like you want to explain, Um, they both are amazing movies. But the cart yeah, come on, but it was it was too close to home, just seeing like Nino Brown hanging they go to George Washington Bridge or that building is still there, right, the car that is still there? Yeah, Wayne shot there. That's right. Yeah, that's the legendary building. Not to go with with New Jack said, yeah, I
respect that. Japanese whiskey or Canadian whiskey. Canadian Japanese whiskey. I'm gonna take a shot. I'm going new one or knew We're gonna go with Japanese influenced Canadian that's what you gotta do it, you gotta do it. Was Mercy and Prince shout out was Mercy, Prince Man James right, yeah, man shout I was James. I was GB I thought he was from Australia. I found out he's Irish because because no one don't Australian. Australian friend his access this
game is all I'm terrible access. I just love it. But I've been thinking I'm one point and you said it would come. You're like Australia. This is the last one. And it's not really a trick question. The ending on how you how deep you want to go with it, loyalty or respect it It depends on what it's pertaining to. Mhm, Like what is it pertaining to whatever you wanted to pertain too. That's too much of a fake question, because
see me, I always say both. Yeah. A lot of people want to break it down is more important, But I think that loyalty and respect is subjective. What you might think is respect might be disrespecting me, or I might you know, or what you might think it is loyal I think it's it's not not some stand up type ship. So it's subjective. It sounds like we're taking a shot basically. All right, let me let me just say something. First time I ever heard of you was
a guy named you know Cash. That's crazy. You know, Cash is bragging about you. He's telling me you at least these things. Then start working and starts blowing, starts going, and they invite me to a show. We all went. Yeah, that show. That was crazy. I almost got caught up and back there, I almost got rolled up. You must know what. Yeah, that's almost got me fucked up. Oh yeah, yeah, I don't gonna arrested yea. By the way, man, we're
still paying. I'm sitting around there like you know, you know, these are nice kids, many people, so I I go with security. I go with like one person. I'm sitting there rolling my bloods. I'm not let me go enjoy the show. So people like you know you don't want to go backstage. I think I came and gave you a fire, gave you, but I was like, no, let me stay on the side, to stay. I want to watch the show. I don't know what happened, rock, I saw it all happen, but to show that never or
maybe it did. And it was like I was like, it's these the nice kids that you was going about you niggas was but I'm looking like, wait a minute, you sure ain't not gangster rap like like it was y'all re minded me so much of me, and what did I did? I was scared of y'all. I was like, now I gotta go these young niggas. So he was wiling back then, Bro, we didn't really have a lot to lose. I think, um, I was way more reckless back then. I've grown. Yes, I'm a young man that
I was a young lad back. So so what was it? That was God saying thank you, thank you for growing? But but what was that? It was space goes purpose I like that. So yeah, So basically like it was a bunch of niggas out here that kind of like came after the show that we had smoke with or whatever the case was, right, me and homies smoked like stem from way back when or whatever. Right we're out here, they're saying that they was outside of looking for niggers,
So everybody just got into it. We heard they was back there, so they just wanted to see what the smoke was about. That's all. A lot of people went to jail. We had to pay a lot of fees. And you know they were grabbing everybody. Yeah, they carped the they we grabbed. I had to leave my car. That's because the police came said, man, my car, it wouldn't even involve. Then I had to make up, like niggas don't squabble no more, right, So like when he
don't shoot the fair one. So like I think everybody just like had to like subsequently pay for that and that kind of ship. Don't pay man, like that kind of ship costs too much, just slupid. Thank you for learning. Yeah, I mean when you when you broke, you got time to deal with Like you know what I'm saying now. He was little at that time. I can't. I can't. I don't. But that's not a comparison to who I am today. Yeah, you broke, it's a different thing. That was That was the thing was to me. I was
I was saying to myself, Damn, I wanted them. I wanted you to learn off of me because I had to go through ship like that and then like I was a banned from every club in New York City. You know, wasn't like hold on. You know, growing up, I thought you was on the front the whole time he was on the run. I got old I found out that was a campaign shot. That's around the same time as this happen. Well, I swear to God, when I've seen you guys, and I've seen that young, I
don't give a fun energy. But what's crazy about it, it is when you own your way up, like like like Denzel said, the will when you're going to the highest, that's when the devil comes. But um, I'm knew at that moment, I said, these niggas new babies. They are the descendants of the Locks Marb Deep Woo thing clan of component Oriega. Just because they sound sounded a little different, Yeah, it was no different. Well, were inspired by all y'all, so you know that, like we grew up on y'all.
You know how you're just trying to like tickle your fancy right now, Like I'm just my man. I know that you know that Yams love you. First of all, don't get me started. Yams used to have a blow It was called Real Naked Tumbler dot com. Yeah, and basically that's how it popped off. Because I'm taking a shot to that. I don't even start Stevens. You know what I'm saying. I'm taking. I'm definitely taking ill getto birds going crazy over here. Yeah, but yeah, Yams, like
I used to speak to Yams so much. Um, I don't know if you know, um because I think he hit me on Twitter. So this to Yams, We're all gonna take a shot. And he had there's two two different souls. I'm gonna tell you who what he had. He had one of the purest souls I ever. He had one of the oldest souls I ever. I did not know he was young, bro. I thought that thing
was my age. He knew everything about that herold. I'm so I never had I never um got a chance to say, Yo, how older you because I just knew he was my age because of how knowledgeable he was. So let's talk about that relationship because I feel like had it. It's going on. That was that was your dame Dash, Yeah, that was your pup daddy. Absolutely, you know what I'm saying. So absolutely, how did y'all even connect?
You know, I know you're both from harm, but we we really connected on some street fashion ship and some fashion street ship that's not like basically my crew was named m dB, right a stat like I was in between like both cruise type ship. Right, m dB was more like a getting money like Hallom type of crew type ship. ASTAT was like more of like get fly, go downtown, get some get girls, get money type ship
Bronx from the Bronx and hall type. Right, but we would go down to Soho, we will go down to like lower east Side and all that downtown and ship hangout was flying yeah yeah type ship. Right. So basically one day both of my cruise was fighting or whatever and like probably like this has probably gotta be like oh six around the time. Like I used to just see them all in Hall m or whatever. I used to be like, you know, y'all wear skinny jeans too,
I know why it sell. Like this is where Eves St Laurent back like oh six, Like you know what I'm saying, niggas wearing truths, but we was wearing products
and more reason and all types of ship. Don't don't get me started with the name brand John Richmond or the type of right and antique Denham seven true religions, all that was popping, right, So basically they like you used to have to get girl jeans or used to have to go to a tailor to get your jeans, like tail it's to make them skinny, because nobody sold skinny jeans back then, right, So we used to buy like girl jeans, We used to buy seven jeans that
was for women's when we used to wear them skinny, we started the skinny revolue. I know you're looking at me crazy, like, yeah, niggas did what we wanted because if you think about it, like I started the skinny jeans, nah, Like if you want to be technical, Subi and Hetty Slamaine, like the all started skinny jeans if you want to, or St. Laurent started skinny jean Christian Dior or if not St. Laurent. Yeah, man, I know I'm not a
fashion at all. Jens. Yeah, I'm gonna continue now. So basically, like back in like oh five o four or five, Heady Sliming was the creative designer creative director for Dior at the time. Right now he's the creative director for Selene. So all the ship that you see like that's him designing it. Or whatever. But back then he was doing or he broke. He used to ship like he used to look at like the Australians and how they used
to cut their jeens like new. I don't explaining this because I'm drunk, and besides, beside of me being drunk, I'm trying to give you out the origin. We need to make a long story short. That's how I met them, A sap niggas, Like they were just like all them dudes was wearing like skinny jeans and ship and like they used to like have a different style and like a lot of fittish shirts and just T shirts, Dirty James, Sloppy Joe and all this other ship so and nudy jeens,
all that movies. But long story short, Um, I met them. And when I met them, it was in Harlem. It was it was a mixture of bronx and harm dudes. When I came in, I'm just like, yo, I know how to take this ship to the next level. But you know, I was on some rapping ship. They was just everybody was on some just get fly and fashion model ship, right, So I was just trying to figure out how to monetize it or whatever. You know what I'm saying. They capitalized. So they always told me about
Stevie E. He's like, yo, he the guru. He started this, but niggas and a sav you should treat yams like he was like Yota and some ship like for real. Yeah, they praise him, but you never see him. You know what I'm saying. You hear about him. He got tattoos, he got this, he got that. So like two years passed and finally a SAP and they I'm rapping for him over the phone or type of ship. This before Instagram and all this other ship. So I'm talking to
them all the time. He's telling me the codes. He telling me like you know, how to like keep everybody straight, like you know what I'm saying. On something he fake was on some superior ship, like you know what I'm saying. He fake was treating this ship like on some gang ship type ship, like it was a set, you know what I'm saying. And at some point you have to fight to get in, like like you have to get in this ship. You couldn't just be like, oh, I'm
just hanging like what I'm saying. And then before you know, we got famous. Everybody started throwing that ship up and you know, got infiltrated. But like before you got you start to get you have to fight, you start to get your one on it to join a stat type ship. But basically Yen's was just like yo, you know what I'm saying, Like, when I come back, we're gonna get it. We're gonna get it shaken with the music. We're gonna do this, We're gonna get it started. And he never came,
never came. And then one day my crew, my old crew, my new crew is out in the fight and I see this short motherfucker man face tasks before face test was a thing. You know what I'm saying that, Um, it's like who the fund is that? They said, Yo, that's Stevie. That's how I met my man's in You know what I'm saying. I left that that crew that day, a sap one. I left the crew. Um, that was that was the start of it. I don't like the
fact you got me tipsy right now. I feel like I just answered that question mad long, but it was just tedious, redundant. Let me just tell you something, bro Um Yeams has to be remembered. You know what I'm saying he has to be Remember he has to be praised. Um um, Like I said, you know when you start popping. And I started speaking to him. I didn't even speak to him, knowing that y'all was related that at this time.
I was speaking to him just I just got Twitter and I was just a fan, thinking like, oh, everyone is on here likes me. You know what I'm saying. Boy, was that a rude awake here because I was just like, okay, everyone was so nice at first. Twitter is my most start following you. Remember this is first, so I'm going to him old Nick. I'm sitting there on Twitter was like, Yo, you're a kid. I'm like, word we following him like that wasn't shut the funk up? What I thought. Everyone
loved me. So I started him in relationship with him and he was an oracle. He was like he would have been on Star Al next to Puff Daddy with his own goddamn crib everything he would have been. I feel like I put him up there, but like Dane, I put him up there with with Puff like he had an eye for it. But he was so strategic. He had an air too. How did how was he so young but still know about the old era and it wasn't Google. If Google existed, it wasn't popping, So
how did he know? Yan was different? So like he would collect like if you went to his cred. But he had vibe so stubble exp like magazines, Yeah, like Soul trained Ozone, Like he just had magazines that and he really wanted to be a ghetto journalist. That was his thing. He was gonna be a journalist. So that's why he started Real nicka tumbler because he wanted to give another uh, And that's why anybody hopped on that appreciation for the old Waves ship, Like you know what
I'm saying, right, Yeah, that's crazy man. I'm take another shot. Man, I'm gonna fall back on this. Um I'm missing. I'm missing. It was like crazy yo, for real, for real man, not to just be saying that on camera. Man, Yeah, I loved you, be know, I love that. I love to love you, like for real thor like he was. He was really a fan of y'all. Bro. What I'm saying like seeing that you got you got to see in this Supreme shirt, I'm still I'm saying you still
got one. I could get one. You're doing bad man, man, I ain't gonna out here a lot for that, your listen, I ain't gonna a lot when I've seen the re sell markets. Got a skateboard, I'm would like to. I would like to, you know, get one of his family members of skateboard, whether one over your good supreme skateboard. I can make that happen. No, I got it, it's already, Yeah, I got I got what I'm saying, I'm giving it. You signed it to, That's what I'm saying I would
like to give it to. And so you got yams Day, right, we got yams Day. It's been going on, I think with the whole COVID thing, like we kind of just you know, treated more as a momoral you for a celebration opposed trying to like do like events and festivities and ship. But who knows if like you know, next year will do something. You know, because like like, um, that she was up, yeah, yeah that should go up like Yams Day, like that she was looking like hot
nine seven. You had a garden we had at Barley Barleys. That's so um what the thing like uh that happened with rappids? Are you is it? Does that make that you're scared to perform because they want to blame you, and and you guys, turn up your music. It's not for the people just to sit around and chill. I would say, like ever since that uh that Master, people that that that horrific night UM shows, they've they've been really like about the show, about how you like my show?
Like I was just out in Brazil and all that, and they just stopped the show, like yo, some people like it's getting a little rowdy in the front, trampooed and stuff. They just stopped the show and not just like cool. You know, I get it. I think people are gonna take precautions and stop now. I was in the middle of performing. We continued after them, But I think that everybody taking pre per cautions now just because
of what happened, more so than never. I don't think that like even lot Nation or just any kind of venue seen this kind of like travisty or or lawsuits before. So you know, I think this is new for everybody. So I think a lot of people trying to take it easy. But we're still going crazy at my ships.
We're still going stupid, like we're part of a that's part of our culture like we we really gotta we we wrapped, but we gotta punk mentality to this ship, Like really and truly that's where that don't give a funk ship really come from. Like when the same ship you had on for like four days in the road type ship, Like that's like you know it might be some ship, but then he's had it off for a while,
you know what I'm saying, Like that's punk. You know, you go to a show, you get out anger, you get out energy, and you know what I'm saying, you get shocked in the face. You take that, you take that on the chin. I was like, you know what I'm saying, you don't really take it. It's like people don't want things on stage at you like, but I
don't love nah. See that's different. Like I like if you throw something that's on stage, depending on what it is, like women throw bras and stuff like I'm not that's cool, you know what I'm saying. But in flowers, you know what I'm saying. I was, I did you know how closely the the history of punk and hip hop the beginnings of hip hop absolutely, Like I so punk and hip hop was both originally like seventy seven in New York I was born. Yeah right, I think, like, don't
get me wrong. I mean you you the genre might have been around in like seventy three seventy four, but like it really was established. They say it's like seventy six seventy seven, So it's hip hop in the same city, New York, and it started out from struggle. It started out with people with many counter culture and it started out with people minimal resources. The only reason why hip hop exists, the reason people be like yo, you know Kanye always were sampling and ship like that and noted
out of out. But that's really weird. It started we we only had like our parents records. So your love to beat from this, so you'll take the first ten seconds from this let it play, and it's your love the sense on this one. So you let that play, you put them together, then you should start rapping. That's what we do now. Essentially, that's where hip hop started out. Just motherfucker's doing it for fun and the pop type ship,
you know what I'm saying. And in the punk clubs, we had Grandmaster Caz here and he was talking about the fashion and the venues were shared with with punk yo yeah c DC. Yeah, because some of the venues, the only places they could do hip hop events was that the punk venues, and they would they would basically be interacting in the in the clothing would be interchangeable us. That's a fact. Yeah. Some one of my favorite punk bands is Bad Brains. Man. You know they're black and
like they was wild. They was like some funky dragheads and ship like it was they should they should just tight ship. Now I heard that you originally didn't want to do problems. Nah, you know what, you know what it is, nor it's like you. It's something that you can never describe unless you an artists. Oh, only a niche demographic. It's going you know what you know how to light you hate your hits? Hate old no hate, Oh no, my my head, oh no oh no, oh
no no, I can't stand it. He's performing here. I love performing what you like for that? Now you don't. That's just a record, so you get it, get it, get it now, like that record that's that was fire. It was a dope time and all that. Man, you know what I'm saying makes you not want to make because because you look like you're trying to play the scope of the game. Like you know what I'm saying. At the end of the day, you come in and you kind of want to do your own thing. It's
a formula. Every few years it changes, right, So now the formula is do a TikTok or do this? Do that through that. At the time, it was like, you know what I'm saying, get on the song with Drake, you don't get with two change, that's gonna make a hit, Like you know, make this kind of song with this bpm, it's gonna be a hit. And sometimes, like you know, a person like me, I just was like I was afraid of looking like I was trying, but I don't give a funk, Like it is what it is, you
know what I'm saying, It is crazy record. So what club was this at that didn't let you and rewin? And how much is they they let us in? That? That was just me first of all. Me and my lady was just walking around because that's what we do, Like you know what I'm saying. We look around smoking, shilling and I'm like, yo, you want to go to this spot? Like yeah, So we walked up to this arcade beings that we had so much ship going on. The owner was just acting like he was being a
fucking tweed like I would love to I don't. It's an independent joint. Um, it's not a club, it's an arcade. It's a ball. They fucked up. They fucked up, but they let us in. The just gave us ship at the door, like, yo, you're bringing all these people like we look like we with these motherfuckers, like we look like we're gonna bring cameras in, like, so can we
bring you man? And before we wrap it up, so we could talk about the mercer and let's do that man, come on, come, let's bring a chair for him, so we could bring James in from Australia Irish. Yes, I ain't gonna lie. You got me something about we're giving you your flowers my brother now you is I appreciate it though, No, he deserved it. And we're gonna we're gonna pick up this company. Man, what y'all look, you gotta see that. I want to show you the commercialis
and ship we shot man we directed. It's crazy, but he did. He showed me. He showed me one. But I bet you you didn't know my dad dropped when my dad died when I should ain't, so so that was nine nine nine. I actually says that Pops died on July three, ninety eight. Nig man. But I was number one, and that ship was like horrible for yo, no funny ship though, it's just like had no time
to let it. Yeah. And then when they told me that about you, there was like, you know, he lived that same exam ship and I was like, now you told me this stuff. You told me this story. He told me the story. Someone told me that, so I wanted to give you now when you say story though, it was on Thanksgiving and I started, yeah, I don't know if you remember, Yeah, yeah, that's where was that.
He's in the bag game. You're just just like, yo, bro, like I funk with you, you know, I really I got so much love for games or something even more crazy as this was then cool and it was beautiful to James. But that's my man, James right here like chief keeping him. Okay, okay, so let's let's get straight to it. Is Mike going has were good. I respect the Whostle because this is just keeps us here a little longer. And but let me ask you, how did
y'all connect? How did this? How is this Prince Mercer thing happening? Yeah? We connected three or four years ago around blocking his face, right, I don't want your product. I know you crazy, Yeah, but he ain't blocking his face, isn't. Yeah? Yeah, remember we can switch the Arizona. Okay, cool? We want you to shine, James, So a tell us crazy man. Back in I moved to New York from Ireland a long long time ago, and I was walking the streets. I was opening some I was opening the bar in
New York City. We were building the place, and I saw a rocky walk by one day into the restaurant and I said, holy ship, he's one of my idols. Like I've following this cat since day one. If I could just get him to come to my bar one time, I've made it in New York back in the day, I used to have bars there. So then a few years later, when I developed the company in the liquor business,
we connected and it's crazy. It's like we just connected kind of creatively on in terms of what we wanted to in terms of what he wanted to do something. He showed me a napkin sketch which I think you were a little slowed to show it to me. I ain't. So basically, I ain't really want to present it to him, Like I just drew on the napkin how I wanted the bottle and ship and how I wanted it to like function and the duality of it. And he got
it right away. He didn't even laugh, none of has like, so this is the original sketch like this, Yeah, yeah, we broke it to life. So like a lot of companies, you know, are are my mantra is with musicians with the creativity that someone like Rocky has, that's such an intentional creator. How can we translate that into a product? Big companies don't want to hear it. They don't want to do it, takes time, started pars. They just want to put a name on something and put it endorsement
type of ship like this is just for us. It takes two years or eight years, it doesn't matter. We want to do it right and the way he wants it. So, you know, behind the scenes, running the business seven, making sure the businesses work, and making sure we can own the business together. It's not pay to play, you know, we own an ex ecquity. It's it's it's ownership that's important because a lot of people have been ripped off for a long time. Boy for that, he said, that's
so eloquently. That's no, No, that's real because the Spirits game, if you play it for the long run, is very very lucrative. Correct. Yeah, So it's a long term. It's a long term play because there's a lot to it. You know, this distributions, importation, there's compliance, there's a lot of sexy stuff day to day. Those have those foundations have to be there. But if you can connect on a creative level, like me and Rocky have been able to connect in terms of creating this, that's when some
magic happens. He's such an intentional creator. The vision he had for this, you know, he knew exactly what he wanted and it was a pain in the asset times to make it work, but the end result was so worth it. It was the cups man, that's the part that everybody beautiful like that in I'll make this beautiful bottle. This expensive looking part of it didn't make it affordable. Yes, that's the point though, yo, bro, You ever see that's the issue, right, you know how you just asked me
when I first came. How come you ain't got no clothing brands? That's because all this ship I do be too expensive. I could just start naming mad the collaborations that we did throughout the years. I did a rap you know what we did. We did a Needle's collapse, We did a J. W. Anderson collaboration. We do so many collaborators. Marines said, uh, meet the Maudi. I made Hells for for women. You know what I'm saying, Just like we do collaborations all the time that sometimes it's
not accessible, it's not affordable for people. So that's why I wanted to do things in the range of or medium that would be more accessible, like even closed, like doing things with packs and it. It's just it's not cheap. It's just like more accessible, you know what I'm saying. And by no means it's this cheap. It it makes it takes so much to like manufactured the bottle, and we just really want to give people what they're paying for. Like you know, at the end of the day, it's
really the liquid, the elixir itself different. You know what I'm saying. I don't even gotta gas that I know you I'm saying I'm still shoot product line or look, whiskey has been so traditional and so stereotypical. It's been it's been male drinkers. Why why do men drink whiskey and women don't? Traditionally it got that masculine. It's a
masculine facade. And I think that, like the point was just to really disrupt tradition, and we kind of figured like whiskey would be the best space to do that in because it's it's like it's it's nothing like it's no other areas. It's like it, you know, And I feel like when it comes to people who try to do things that it is right now, the thing to do is to just be like to kill all that other ship that is easy, Like this literally tastes amazing. That's why we fun with it. That's why we did it.
And what you're a big drinker before this, or I was more of a smoking you know what I'm saying, But I was. I was more of a meticulous drinking. Like I was very precise and specific. So I wanted some Henny and douce Se and something like that class something like that, you know what I'm saying. Keep it black on you want deli on you want to do say this, this is this is look I'm coming out with by Japanese. Look what you're doing A whiskey Japanese.
We gotta collaborate with you. Look expensive? Yes, yes, my man, when um, but we're putting it together because I wanted to be Japanese um whiskey. I wanted to actually be Japanese whiskey. This is fucking fantastic, bro, I'm telling you, that's amazing. I ain't even saying this because it's yours, because if it was, it wasn't. I gotta be feeling my fans. I gotta be like yo yo. We had some instances where artist brought in liquor. You know, it was like it was and I was like, I switched
you back, embarrassing myself do this. So I gotta enjoy myself, you know what I'm saying. So I can't be Now you have another liquor, you have a to geller come not with Kevin Hart. Yeah, we've got we've got a couple of projects. But again, it's all intentional. It has to be. It's a journey. These things they come out and it looks like, oh you put put this together a few months ago. This has been years in the making. These these projects take time to get them right. Um,
they have to be perfect. And again that's if it takes time just six times. So when are y'all gonna do a sipping tasted in Miami? I should do like a I mean if you hosted. No, we were already hosted, sir, I say that, Okay, this happen. No, no, we're now we're doing it. Yeah yeah, yeah, this is this, this is this is this is beautiful, man, this is I'm really proud. I'm really proud to thank you. You know I was real, Um obviously, I like I was precautious
because I know you know your ship. Oh no, no, no, I know you know you do. And the fact that you're making Japanese whiskey and this is inspired by Menzanora Japanese you know whiskey barrels like you know, because this is, like I said, this is actually I can tell you'all put all like a man power. I tell you care about the product because of how it tastes, how it looks, because this ship could be mad, this mad pretty bottles of liquor that you'd be like water y'all spreading this
much or making it look good. Yeah, on the product. I think what this bottle had, it's it's just like elegance and functionality, right, like a woman could holdless and look right, a man could holdless and look very elegant. Or you know, you might be in the club, you might be at home, you might be anywhere. It don't matter whether occasion or the environment. I think it's appropriate. I wanted to make some ship that you would be proud to just leave in your crib like a boss, Like,
just leave it there. And did you did you? Did you know? You just have the video with Nas? Did you give nas on? I ain't give Nas none of this. He's a whiskey condos sword too, you bullshit? Yeah? Nas and Jay they whiskey condo source. Yeah, I got I got it. I got got it from them. Got you? I thought Jay was a wine condosurd because you know the one pretty much both, it's pretty much. He came out and drinking me just to test me, to make
sure I knew my hip. And you know, he got way more money than me, So it's to me keeping up. It's not easy. It's not easy. Don't keep it in the hunt, don't keep give it up for no. On that note, he kept, I'm not keeping because by the way, you know, we had to tell him know that we drink because I have a line in the record where I say I drink more acetan hove due. So he heard the line and said, man, I think he do.
He said to him, you trying to flow some me north, he said, He said, but I would have said that line, and I said for good things because I said, and I'm not taking it back. But that's crazy. This is just the forty part is we walk into a restaurant and the restaur world is closed. But Jay's like, what do you mean it's closed? Taken to open when we stay open? So he walks in and I'm like, I'm like and then people walk over there like oh that's jay Z. And then he walks out, and I was like,
I cannot try this. I am nowhere near this famous. They're gonna call the police for me be trying to walk into a closed restaurant. So but I'm not gonna lie. You got famous right now? Are you walking to the department stores and they just taking off a Mannikuts and put it on you. I ain't gonna hold you in the fashion industry, man, and just in the fashion world. I've been that nigger man. You've been been at Paris weeks all that. Yo, you want to know a funny
story about j and Ace Space. Let's go what's crazy but Ace? Because growing up I always knew like puffing and holding all of them for like, yeah, Christad he was promoting Christal right, record said right. So look so when I first came out, like I'm like Christal by the cases or you know, maybe that was racist. I will prefer the aces. Ain't no different when you tasted like, I ain't know Hope, I ain't know j on a spade,
how is this? I ain't gonna lie. I don't think he was jagging at you now like he's seen some little ashat niggas back in the day, like a sat barry enough he called this to the sald come in you know, like, I mean, how light you'll it's like my first songs without pay So I don't even know he knows them. So he's like, yo, your man, it's like, what's up with that? Like because I might have said some crazy ship like we said Chris and Ace, I don't know that it was on by the what I'm saying.
So um. He was just like, yo, you know, they don't really support us. They're not for us Chris style. They're racist, like you gotta you know that. From that From that moment, that's when I knew, like, oh ship, I mean, that's what's funked up about us is we'll blow up a company and make a company mad important and we find out who they are and you're like, whoa, that's how they felt about us, that's a fact, Like
it's crazy. It's even um, I love your wine and people I know try to get a meeting with people that own Santa Margarita and they're the same people as crystalle Da. I said, we don't want no meeting. We don't even want y'all drinking it. Let me stop. I don't remember if they say they want us drinking it sounds, but they definitely was like no, how we were good. We don't want no rapper brand, we don't want no rapper endorsements. And it was just like, how about the relationship,
Like I'm always gonna be rapping and throw us. How about just you know, I like your product? You know, should you should respect me and just you know, make a relationship. That's why I do respect Herbeck. You know what I'm saying. Like Herbeck reached out to us, and it's just like yo, you know, if anything, if I can't, people like to do business. But if anything, let's just develop a relations So this is the reason why I with you all. Thank you, because if anything, we got
a motherfucking relationship. Motherfucking prince, Mercer, Mercer, Prince. You know I'm dyslexi, so I might call it the opposite way, mercy prince, and you know what I'm saying, still make that shop. I gott ask you some questions. You ask me what was your favorite? You? You you enjoyed Paul Men tips you, but you enjoyed this claimers all day? This claimers all day? But did you enjoy filming stay property too? Or paper soldiers? More? M and the snicker got deep on me. Huh? Nick got deep on me.
Huh take a shot? You got no, no, no, no, But I got I got to I got to answer what you said again. You said paper soldiers properly, stay property too? Hands down? If you say both, you gotta drink. You know I'm drinking. If I say one, Um, but I will, I'll explain. Um. Oh, Jada kisses called come on kiss, come on, come on kiss. What's going on? I don't kiss. Yeah, we all drink tips. It's good, zooming on, zooming on the garden. Well, let's going on.
Let's go make some noise with Jade blood A little kiss. They shot do me dirty. They're gonna ask me you're fat. I don't even got no voice. They're doing me dirty right now. Kiss you No, tell him what I said? No, tell what I said. No. Oh, he definitely said you. He definitely said you. My son Rocky Rocky at my son sixt birthday party. Um, my son is like the a Shap member. I'm like the uncle a shap kissing. That's a fact. So bad boys, so family. That's my brother,
that's my little brother. I love with moish knowing, but the best I know he was gonna pick me Nate yet kiss, so I love. Thank you for checking in, my brother. What was you talking about before? That property? I'll tell you what. No state property my favorite ever because everyone knows I free style all my movies. I don't I don't give a first movie. That's my first staring movie is my first movie. I was in Baker Soldiers.
Before that, I was in but it was crazy because they wrote it for a black and Puerto Rican do pet Crack. It was Peter Crack's role. Petty Crack got locked up. So they came to me and was like, Yo, we want you to play this role. So I read it and it said Pedro, and I said, I can't play Pedro. I said, I don't care what I can do. I ain't Pedro. I'm the y'all y'all. I'm the y'all y'all we're going. I said, the only hell I could
do this if y'all changed it all up. And they said change it up for what I said, I want none of these lines. I want y'all to base your lines for you what you think I'm gonna say because I'm a free style the whole ship. So I Larry David the whole movie. I never I never, I never read the script. I made them change the whole script to me that the director dude had the writer dude had to hang with me. In the Hood Lab had a famous student called the Hood Lab have a Right
Cabby drinking out of Starbard phone cups in there. I'm gonna let you. Yes, I've been doing this. I've been doing it. So I told him, I said, I'll do it as long as y'all orchard also the whole ship. So I also the whole ship. And they actually literally let me do whatever the funk I wanted to do. Dame did not understand. Dame looked at me, it was like,
you know, you gotta say this line. And I was like, Bat, I'm gonna say that line, but I'm gonna say whole bunch of other ship before it and the other ship after it. And it made people fall in love with me. And I love the fact that that that that movie really showed what they call acting my chops, you know what I'm saying. So, um, yeah, that was easy. That was that was That was an easy question for me. No, But now Paper Soldiers. The first time I met Kevin Hard.
That's his first movie, right, that's his first movie. That's hardest first movie. So if you look at his first seen interacting, it's with me, and UM, for me to see what Kevin Hart went from there, holy motive, I'd be hitting him all the time. Um. I actually got to meet with his company tomorrow or is it Monday? Forget. I always thought Smoky was gonna be Smokey was. That's why I brung it up. Smokey was actually the funniest dude on the set because Me and Beans to keep
it to the hunted me. Beans and Dane was baking on all the comedians. We wanted the out funny the comedians. I don't know what's wrong with us. That was not a good idea, like you know what I mean. But then they came back, and then uh, then I've seen Kevin and so plain and I still didn't think he was I'm still I'm not sure. But then after that, then after that long came Polly and I was like, he's gone. What's crazy about paper Soldiers? Is you cloud?
Your character had the clown the nigger Smoky for wearing the Supreme jersey and we don't know what Supreme was back. That's your your fashion. Let body establish the good. Let me tell you all. I know I'm not a fashion nigger at all. One thing, I'm wearing an outfit right and the socks I had on, I knew I didn't go with it. I knew it didn't go with it. But I was like, damn, why were these other socks? The outfit is correct when I'm uncomfortable, And I said,
fuck it, I'm gonna be comfortable. I was came outside not matching, knowing I'm not matching at all. That does not make me qualified to go to fashion week ever. Correctly, that might be fashion with you. Honestly, it's about comfortability. But you gotta really, for real, for real, like be comfortable.
That's what people don't understand, like being cozy. Being fashion is a sense, right, so it's like a mood, like you gotta just be comfortable, like these boots, like the fund is these you know what I'm saying, Like, okay, these the weather boots. They ain't out chat but these fired. But we in Miami. But yeah, I gotta pick your battle. You want with the leather coat and all that, I mean it hot, like because you ain't hot at all.
Oh yeah, no, I'm cool. I'm sure I'll take it to the shot that I'll take a little shot to that my don't do a shot. The easiest thing we got. We gotta we gotta go back to the first time he was actually on drink. Do you remember you drink I'm not. I felt like you walked up like you had maybe seen the show already, you knew what it was. No, that was like y'all probably like third or four drinks at that point. You But I feel like he had seen the show and it was me and I was
really gonna get it all. What happened like like this, What happened was awkward animosity. No know, what happened was he didn't understand the podcast and was he didn't understand me saying you know, you know nigga smashing. You know, it's just like I'm not the police. He thought you was like he was like he was say, he was like, you got to answer that, you do not you have to answer these questions and he was like what you
got in your cup? To me? Like, no, that was what made drinking chance because I had just we had to understand organization and then I had to understand that. I mean, that was a wild drink chance to start with session. Yeah, listen, listen, you gotta remember we went there for French I've seen you. I was like, alright, cool Frisks, but I want Tia to join too. I knew I had a relationship with you and me and you knew each other. I knew French, I knew Tia, but I ain't no Tia. And this is coming right
off the Mayweather fight. I gotta ask, come on, my dude, I ain't calling. I'm not I'm gonna avoid this is the biggest thing. And I'm like, and I was like, yeah, but you know that's that street ship. I said, let's make some annoying the TI. I still think it in the street. You are the furthest thing away from that, sir,
you are You're star. But anyway, I ain't that beautiful though, No, that was beautiful when when it's just like when when it's just like unintentional, Right, it was the start though it was a misunderstanding. Yeah, but it was. It was unintentional. I happened. Now, look at like what five six later six I'm saying this beautiful together, I want to say. I don't always remember him coming coming to the table. He looked like he was so confused, you know, at
first he looked down with drinking. He's like, and then it got weird because I noticed you wasn't drinking nothing. No, we was drinking, but we didn't have our setup. We we didn't have our bottles. We have some bottles which I wasn't drinking them, was drinking French. K wanted to take the big as shots like this because French was on y'all at that time, you know what, and we can't drunk. We got drunk, that's what you and I
saw it. Listen that that was an episode Povada. So it was organic, it was French, and you can always say we was a part of the very beginning chap. So I just want you to know the case. You don't never know that if you want to promote your new toilet paper line, if you want to promote your new to nails line, if you want to promote yeah yeah, if you want to promote the new candle line, I don't give a funk what you want to promote. This is your house, This is your show man, this is
your show. Everything we're doing. We are proud of your smile because I could just remember me seeing you starting out and me seeing you you know. Also like the thing about me seeing you at that at that show with Miami was almost like you were still like I might not even belong in hip hop, and for me to film you slaying damn like yo, man, don't sunk up your opportunity and me you know, calling yeahs and be you know, and for for for it to go from there to it to be at where you at,
and I could just I believe your smile. I believe your happiness. And there's certain people that sit here and I'm like a therapist. I get right through them a something y'all. I get to y'all, and I could get through them and I could tell you, sincerely, are happy. I want to say congratulations, thank you to you, uh your child on the way. I want to say congratulations to be. I want to see congratulations to your wife to be because I'm a married man and I believe
in that. So I want you to uh, you know, like it's it's time, baby, It's time on that one knee. You know. I had to read and see my white over there, you know, I had to. My wife told me when I proposed, I never got on one knee. I saw that in the show. So you saw a marriage who killing was not killing on the show like you have to do you have to you know. Yeah, he's even the judge, he's seen the ring. The judge said, go ahead, North he stepped it up. So I ain't
gonna lie. I I wish that on you. I hope thank you that you know. I mean, um Farrell sat in this chair and Farrell said, he turned around, he said, what's your wife fat? And he pointed to my wife and he said, you changed this man, and obviously changed for the batter. And I loved that. I believe in the singity of marriage. So I'm not I don't work for you on it, by the way, because I'm keeping it the hunter with you. And I watched the show and ship just the that's the dynamic of everybody in
that house and ship like that. I know, I mean, obviously it's a challenge show, but like I could see the realness between both of y'all and ship like that, and I could really tell, like I've been through some ship together, you've been through a journey and it's real. It's actually it's not it's not fabricated, it's actually real. And that's what I aspired to keep, just genuine reil ship, just fun with the outside world, got going on with
the outside world. Thinking ship like that, it's really about understanding between two components, you and your significant That's it you know what I'm saying, Rocky break three components? Are components? Now have three components? Yet? Yeah, right, that's true. I'm proud man. First, congratulations, we're taking that. There's no way you can't take a shot to that. I'm down. That done. Your bottom man, crept up on you. I'm like, but I'm I'm gonna make you look good. Yeah, I got
last question. What do you like before performing or making the record? Take the shot. I'm taking the shot, sir. I'm trying to you. Don't think we're drinking. Man, by the way, I got three drinks, I got a cold. One happen. We're going, and we're going. I think I like, I can't really choose one, but I do show for that there I experience because I ain't gonna lie Rocky and I asked all of artists. But I don't think
you can't choose. I think you equally like both. I think you equally like making the records and I think you even like breaking the record. I think you equally love performing the record. Take one shot over the James, come on, man, by the way, I don't know if you know James, that's my middle name. You got to take a shot for that. Ain't Irish. I'm exactly what
you are. You're just Australia. I'm just it's crazy because like I'm telling you, Bro, like I remember when you had to change your name from Noriega, this is your interview. I just want you to think you fower, but this is your flower day. Please because because it's just a second time on drink Chats, but the third time on dream Chat, I get Oh. I just know that when it comes to y'all, man like went don't funk around, Bro. You gotta realize y'all raised us and were thankful for y'all.
When I say y'all, I'm putting you in the same box as all your pioneers because it's it's a lot of y'all and it's not a lot in my gener ration now that I would say, like, you know what I'm saying, so thank you. You know what I mean. Let me let me ask you a question, like Pops, the record that you we did Yeah for X was exce alive at that time X was live. Didn't get to hear that record. Yo, I never met X. I never met X. Bro Swiss could tell you Sean Cross my cousin, my blood cousin. I know met X. I
never met X. You know that's that's crazy. And and and I'm saying in here, what you made that record? Was he passed away already or he was now he might have been locked up with so ship. I don't know, like you know what I'm saying, but I know we were trying to get X on the record and never met X. Furg that's Furg record. Ferg was trying to get X on the record and we couldn't. We didn't even get to meet him and all that. But I think Ferg met him though. Yeah, I was sick. Though
I'm still sick. Your ex different. I'll be watching all his interviews now. We had him here, that a second interview with us, Yeah, I saw that third before passed. Yeah. We did the Quarantine episode, Quarantine right right, I thought I want to see two episodes. Did a Zoom episode, which is horrible. By the way, don't zoom interviews. Anybody's telling you to do a zoom interview. Tell him no,
there's no human expression in it. How can saybody be careful cause we might have to do it one day again. We don't know that they kept the middles. He's been calling the COVID people, we all get tested for us. That made us all get tested, and then his ass came in and didn't get tested. I was you you understand he made the whole You see all these other fuckers be back there and this is this is the time we got is back there. It's looking really right
because Allen back there. But everywhere like what we're in the full building? What's going on around? He was locked up with dumb casting on cast. We gotta save because you know, free casting over because cast cast know, but I know how you feel right now. You're not feeling at the love people. Ain't you know out casting over? You know it's crazy. I ain't even go see that man. That's not very real nigger like a meat. You know,
I need to go see that man. But you gotta be on the list when it's the fast because I know they told us that, but I'm quite sure that you know, how could you exact? Motherfucker brocky money just see that man's good. Yeah, it's only right, that's where that's that's got a lot of cast was he was tintote since that he was a Brooklyn nigging fu with a bronx holom nigger. So because what's the story. The
story was y'all was in jail together. And yeah, so so my first time going to to the island, I was like sixteen, he probably was like seventeen or whatever. The cases and that fly so I had all that ship was signed to getting shaken us on like that. He was just there making sure niggas ain't jump me none of that ship. It was my first time. So you know how like if you asked the wrong nigger, he's gonna make an example out of you. But I asked him and he just kind of was just like, nah,
it was my first time. Ain't I don't do that. Don't do this, like I don't sunk with them. They're tasty ship like that, you know what I mean? That's that's that's crazy and how and I mean obviously you ain't see him in a little while, but how y'all y'all see each other? Yo, my my motherfuck with cat you first of all, cash got me hot right now because yeah day, this man's gonna scream funck f D and y they're going now f D and why don't
funk with me? We can't use Pyro for you know what I'm saying, So why please, you know, allow us to get out Pyro back to say something. You know what I'm saying. I've heard the police songs, never heard the yeah cat need It's like, why did he save the fight the bars? He's supposed to get off stage because he already did his two songs. You want to do another one in the fight up because Tom gotta
let they gotta let up the fire, the pyrotechnic. Yeah, his time, so everything, it's time, you know what I'm saying. And he was just like this for years. It's for rock. Now I'm taking this person who like what you mean? And I'm here like you know what I'm saying, His family to me. Like, so he started telling the crowd Chad funk as d n Yeah I got on then you not no no, not like you bugged out the fire stings just yea not cast is and stand up dude.
And I think like he got hit on some conspiracy ship whatever the case is, and it's funked up because it's just like you know what I'm saying, Like it's really not I could do, but it's just it's it's sucked up and I hope going to see him or right, Yeah, I think you should do that. Yeah, do you think a rapper is one of the dangerous jobs in America? I think that is one of the most dangerous facades, you know, at the end of the day, like you an't gotta work to be yourself, Like there's a lot
of things that want to be against the rappers. A lot of mothercker's want to be cloud rappers and all that other ship. But um, I think this is the only genre where people actually get murdered like that, unless we're talking about real like heavy metal punk with them Norwegion they be killing each other for no read like no they about about it. They with all the ship they're killing and taking skin and make an album color
out of it. Yeah that type of ship. Yeah jokes side look it up, but it's Norwegian like death metal ship. But we're the only like you never heard of like One Direction or Harry Styles. Is somebody getting clapped just because they had beef with Blink one eight two Urs and sinking Backstreet Boys. Never caught the fade, Like you don't hear about that, but you hear about that in our genre. And I think that's just the stigma of just being like, um being minorities, you know what I'm saying, Like,
that's just what that's it is what it is. It comes, it comes with our our territory. So a part of that, I feel like a lot of rappers feel like they gotta like fake, be tough and all that other ship like just be cool, be yourself, whoever the funk is. If you tough, be tough. If you're not be you, you're watching God. No. Now, I I'm really like a more like Victorian jewelry type of because all bone right here and ship like the real that's real bone and
it's rubies and diamonds. You can't disclose what kind of bones is. We're talking about nuisan death metal and alluinatis there. I don't need Peter on my head either. But so now, um furg pops bird pops Yo. I did not know he so he did the n O. I E yeah, ship me yeah that you know. He didn't do the logo the logo. I hadn't been there, but my first press a press shirt blue was we were we were going to Canal Street and Gino said, man, I gotta
do it uptown. I could do it for the same price, and was like, for real, it's like and he's one of us. So I went uptown and it was fun as funny as ship because I believe Gino brung me uptown to me them. But when I got there, my my, my, my boy. Uh, the boss was there for Murder Union. He was at the actual store. So I'm like, what I said, why you didn't tell me? Because a guy he's like, you know, I never want to get in
your business, and she's like that. I'm like, I was about to go to the Chinese people down in Canal Street, but I could just do this uptown. So my whole ship, I had no idea even when it was like I didn't put two and two together until everyone's like, you know, that's fur Son, bro, that's bugged out. He did your ship. He that the bad boys ship. He's a legend that's
bugged out. Yo. Kim and Votto and them always showing like de Fergal never met d fur never met Defurging, like me and Defer died when Ferg was like thirteen, you know what I'm saying, So like me and Furg was friends when he was like sixteen fifteen, sixteen, so I didn't meet him until until at this Postle died like three or four years type ship but fur nigger man, like I remember when my paps died, Like he gave me a painting that he drew the day after his
father died. But John Lennon and the's still in my house to this day, and man shout outs fur here, I'm about to ask you that because and I you know, people, I think it signally you gotta go. So, um, it's probably a relationship for it because at one point I believe it's some asap guys online and it was like a tap is over and then you went for the next day. Yeah, we posted pictures and ship posted pictures and ship together. I think that was brothers going to
the Internet. And I don't really condone that like internet like if you gotta beef or if you got you know, disagreement with it, they get like you know what I'm saying. I just think you can handle in real life if y'all throw hands, if y'all keep it verbal, whatever the cases. Just don't really bring that to the Internet. So that was just my only thing on it. I feel like it was just two brothers that had just a disagreement that was going at each other and they could have
been kept and I think I think so. I don't think it was necessary for the Internet. But people hate me for that. They say I'm too secretive these days and I don't really be posting ship about my life and all that, you know what I'm saying. So that's just my perspective. But everything is good with everything lovely man. You know, we all blessed to be here. Yeah, everybody doing the ding and everybody eclectically kind of like progressively being creative, doing their own thing, and when we all
come together as love and that's all that matter. It's just like the hardest thing to do is to keep a group together and ship like that, you know what I'm saying. That's the hardest thing, bro like you was to do. Who you know what I'm talking about, you know, so imagine five six seven eight, which is harder. It was hard. Money is the most complicated thing in the world. It is easy and complicated to say. I think money
is the best divided you know what I'm saying. A lot of people be like money change you, and I feel like money changed the people around you. Sometimes I feel money changes. Know what I'm saying. I think money kind of like coming into a play when it wasn't. They're obviously when people broke, it always splits some ship up. That's man to happen every time. So let me say one more thing, because this man does this drunk, by
the way, right you are you? You kind of you take the cake for journalism, I'm I don't know nobody who could do that, like and I'm smoking blunts, don't but might one thing I did when I when I tweeted, and now I remember I talked about Twitter earlier, but Twitter is also my negative is so shoe media platform for you know, I'm just saying, they just like to be next like when I could be like, yo, man, Prince Mercer's girls like Prince Mercy, like damn Eve, Like
you don't even know what I'm talking about it, but that strolls no, right. But one thing they said today when I said this is what they all comply with, I said a sap right, he said white people love them that they didn't get you a negative as long as it was love involved. I was like that, why would they say that? Then my friend right there, his stepdaughter sends him a picture. You gotta show him. The picture was a sap tattooed No, you know, lim shot up.
I don't even say what it is. She's not white though stept. He can't make children. He can't make children. He can't make just making sure talk about Yeah, yeah it's a step. He can't make kids. Look. Look, oh she's she's wild for that. She got the lips had That's really that's different. That's different, you know. And he didn't even know she was a get in the gang crazy. I feel like when it comes to just when it
comes to just like females in general. I never had it to where it was just like only like white girls love me. It was it was generally like women just fun with me. What I'm saying, I'm keeping it up on it. Yeah, a million percent. Yes, you have no idea. I come from upon. It was not a different crowd. Different crowd. People was getting hurt at my shows. How described a sad rocket show for a person that's never been there? Today you're talking about today? What does
a sad rocket show? I think it's marsh Pits absolutely, But then they pause you for a second. They cleared up. I mean they just did that, man, you know what I'm saying. But I think the energy exchange, that's what you could expect, Like my shows be crazy to be lit, you know what I'm saying. I'm just I'm just happy that we still we're still doing it and selling out
them big, you know Arenas and to this day. You know what I'm saying, Like I put out an album once every three or four years, and you know, still being able to headline every show, being able to you know what I mean, close everything out fifteen twenty thousand. That's beautiful, you know what I mean. We just we just did sixty thousand. Are we supposed to be some noist back? Yeah, we just did sixty thousand and it
was easy. Yeah we uh and uh Chile Yeah, Santiago, Yeah, Santiago. Yeah. Man, holy to be to be real though, Man, it's just like you give me, you give me like twelve hundred people, you give me five hundred people, it's gonna be the same kind of show. It's just it's it's really exchange of energy. I'm engaging with people that inspiring, who's inspired by me or who funk with me as a cult following things like I can't really explain it, you know
what I'm saying. It's just people who grew up with me, and I think I'm fortunate to be one of those artists that don't really have to staying at rat Race and like, you know, the formula of the game or whatever the case is, I could kind of like play by my rules and hope that it just go how I wanted to go, you know what I'm saying. Meaning like, to stay relevant, you really got to do a lot of like cloud chasing ship. You gotta do fALS doing all that ship. Like I'll be really on some light
just I'll be on some chail ship. But I like to do it more in a creative aspect. That money too. That's all we're going to do. Spend it all all but enjoy that motherfucker. You got the kid down. Yeah, enjoy man, I come first, you know that's that's that's fine. Man. Well let me just tell you, man, we're proud of you. Thank you, We funk with you. What's your favorite used to perform before we get out of here. Before we get out of here in North America, I could be anywhere.
Might as well be anywhere. At this point, I love the floss me in North America. Let's go, Let's go. So you know, the answer was so good. I wasn't even ready. I was shocked, like, wait a minute, am I asking North America now? Like, YO, know, I ain't gonna lie like I backed different, but I'm I'm humble, bro. I come from humble beginnings. Bro. I grew up in shelters and all that ship. You know what I'm saying, Like we really grew up, Harlem Bronx. I'm really happy
to be here. You're like, I'm happy to be here, Like here, thank you for having to thank you. I'm happy to be in this ship more more than anything though, Like I pray and like I pray the person bit and I just try to always just raise the ball of this creativity. I'm taking shot with you, sting out because you get you getting You're getting very churchish and I'm with this. Let me say something real quick, going back to that that time that we were in the
studio with with t I and everybody. You came through for me, it was that you walked up and I didn't know that you knew Dream Champs, but it looked like you did. And it was like our second third episode, and to me, that was that was big. I was like, yo, he's fucking with us and this is early dream Champ, so it was huge for us. So I want to thank you for that. I want to thank you for that too. But I wasn't as impressed as him because I knew you came from Yeah, and I knew Yea everything.
Like I was so impressed. Yeah, So I'm gonna take this shot for yeam man shout out. You know, yeah, because what you did was taking the tradition of what we all did and y'all, and that was put someone you get on and put the next one on, had the next one come on, and then keep going so and doing dope music. That's that's what I think was the game changer. You know what dope music? You know what I noticed about studying your music these past couple
of days, these vast couple of days. Yeah, I had to do hold on, hold on, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen A little great because I just gotta do my research and I only do it for two days, pasting days. I had to study it. But I had to study at this time. No, no, no, no, no studying, study studies, study days, study it. I had to become you. I was you for two days. I was running around, had
to become you. Here the boots and what I said, what I need to say is you are probably the best beat picker game. Damn. Thank you. Like I can't lie. I'm like, damn this nigga ain't pick a whack beat. Yeah, I'm going to do this ship. I'm like, he gotta make one like you get seriously and off for your whole team. Thank you man, Like like you're not the producer, I'm gonna producer. That's no wonder why you've been cheating whole time. I'd stand. It's like said, like a producer,
he does the visuals. He did say the individuals. Yeah, so you know we're gonna end it on this. This is beautiful man. Yes, I really want to show you how proud I am. We are when I say I mean we but and you know what, I'm gonna put hip hop on my shoulders right now because I know how proud hip hop is of you well, and sometimes we don't, we don't give it to each other. I've learned to do that, learned it makes me a better person. Absolutely to show other people that they're better persons or
they're great people. I love that. I love giving flowers. I love telling people how great they are. It doesn't take nothing away from me as a man. I'm very confident in who I am. I on my side every day, biggest smile along, biggest blunts, and I'm gonna be who I'm gonna be exact. But to give props to people when they deserve it, it's something that comes natural to me. I've seen your growth, I've seen you from the beginning. I see you here now. We are so happy that
you know everything you did, your commissmiths, your albums. Yeah, yeah, that's the last question. I forgot to ask you which each album meant to you? But um, I feel like you gotta go. So we're gonna carry this up. But what I mean, and we're so happy and you know what else we're happy of? What's that you and we were going through the hood? Yeah we got It's a real nigger, cause I would have stayed in Beverly Hill. I'm a state in manhat she's been had. She thorough, bro, Yes,
that's my lady, she thorough. We're making I'm taking to reach. I'm thinking I'm gonna chat with something rich niggas and it's just like Rocky doing it right. I can't think. I can't hev. It's just like your slid. Rocky is a real one bro. Like niggas wouldn't have did that. Niggas wouldn't have been in motherfucker's Hall of them had. Yeah, we went to my grandma dukes out. So that's fine, right, Yeah, So Rocky, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna
end out on this note. Prince Merca Mercer, Prince, Yes, sir, think we outside my man James from Ireland and Australia. You got I just say, I just oh, I like your shot. Hold up, hold on, let let's see if you're gonna take that down. It's your products, okay, Oh you are, that's right. That's okay, okay, hold on't play. It's a change, freak to take, freak to take. It's a change. Look, you got your chain right there. Oh I got a little bit more that. That's not my shot, okay,
but you want to take it down here? Hold on, hold on, hold on, I got you. I'm with you. Oh yeah, man, I gotta take double shots different. So is this done? We finished? Yeah, but you feel like you've got something to say though off camera, it's not personal, it's not everything here is on camera. I'm sorry, I cannot turn it off. Was Game able to walk out of here when he drunk that bottle of class at zoo by so Bo? You had to get carried up? Yeah? With hell? Well he went in party after, Yes, he
held it down. Let's just be clean. We went in party after. Let me let me be clear, let me be clean. Yes, yes, Game stayed out and went to listen. But let me be clear. Game did had the super cheatco which is what he did. He brought his own bottles. No, I'm not talking about that when he went to the bathroom. When he did. When he went to the bathroom, he came back and ate the whole play the food. So for a lot of you don't know that if you're a real drinker, to a vibe longer than the six
to seven hours if you sign especially cars. Yeah, because he took the longest bathroom break ever. But he wasn't in the bathroom. So then when I look, I said, oh, he's smart, because I should do that. My friend right here, my friend right here should try to challenge me drinking every weekend. I had him thrown up, yo yo, Rocky. I had him thrown up through his nose. One time. He came to my career on Thanksgiving like this, let's go. He had his hope, he had it planned out. He
just come over with my cree. He wanted to beat me and drinking. I said, all right, I had a little meal first. He had a little mail. But his meal came out of his nose. He series weird. Yeah. Let's thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs, hosted by Yours truly, d j E F and n O r E. Please make sure to follow us on
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