Episode 308 w/ Kid Capri

it should be? This? Your boy in O r U, d J e f N and his drink Chance motherfucknates something When I tell you this man is a legend. When I tell you, will talk until I was probably the only tape that is the funk too, was kicking pree tapes, slow jams, the mix tapes. I'm so fine, I'm so sorry. You know I didn't have time to get individuals cell kick slow jams. You smashed, And it's just how it happens. Uh. I used to go up town and get his tapes from Queen's used to I

us getting a national cab. Of course I didn't have a car, but back then he's have O j's and things like that. I used to go from Queens all the way uptown to get this man's tapes. He's a legend amongst legend. He just finished up versus. We're gonna talk about that, he just got an album out. We're gonna talk about that Roting produced everything from him. But when I tell you, can't nobody rock a party like a kicking Pree party because the kicker Pree party don't stop.

I've seen him play for the young guns. I've seen him play for the middle people. I've seen him play for the old heads. I've seen him play for the Latinos. I seen him play for the white people. I've seen him play for the I've seen him play for Martians. I've seen this man play for anybody and rock the crowd the same. So in case you don't know who we're talking about, it's about the one the only legendary DJ happy was you when you seen Trick Daddy admitting

that he pulls his legs off? I thought I thought that you immediately. It's funny because when I posted it, I think you tagged you're like seeing that he almost I kind of put the shock at his head when I showed him this film. He was just getting okay, okay, give let's move one to get straight into it. The hip hop community the first time I actually seen the hip hop community UM come together recently and this was

like this. There was a whole bunch of secret group chats and everybody was like really really concerned about you, and it was really really concerned about um case slang um because they said at one point, like you guys had you had you had the bad version of COVID, right, So it's plain to people who haven't had COVID, um, how how does how? How does this work? Well, the first time I had it was when it first started. You had it first. I had it twice. Uh no,

okay cool. But the first time I caught it with March when it first started, had to the show with Caress One at Sony Hall and New speaking of Carats gave you COVID. A matter of fact, it was the last concert that New York had seen when the COVID started, and we did uh Howard Theater next night in d C. When I got on the airplane seeing all these wipes on the plane, it was like damn Mas's peculiar. I started wiping off my little abea when I got home that night, when I first started and I wiped off

this off my little area when I got home that night. Man, I was sick for a week and a half. I couldn't stand up, I couldn't drink, I couldn't eat. It was really bad, and it was you know, I understand why people died from me, man, it was it was hard. But Fred de Gard someone sitting in my studio and a month later he was dead. You know what I'm saying. It was crazy, man. So you know, um when I called it this time, I did a show which I

was gonna cancel. I had canceled a bunch of shows and I didn't cancel this one because it was a lot of bread involves. I supposed to go get it, but it was New Year's Eve. I didn't Houston. I didn't hear another show in Houston next day. When I got home that following day, that's when I got sick and I put the video out, and had I thought about the all the attention that it was that it was gonna get. I wouldn't never put the video out. It's the first time, you just the second time recent time.

So when I put like I said, when I put the video out, had I thought about all the attention that it would have gotten, I probably would have put put it out about it thought twice. But I'm glad I did because broke people up to to understand. Don't trust nobody as city as ire. But why do you regret that I don't understand, because you know, sometimes when you do things, I'm not gonna dude that you know.

I watched people get caught up in the in the camera and want to be on the camera just for the sake of of them having a camera, and they face and they just want a certain amount of attention. I'm not really into that. When I showed things on the net or whatever, it's to inspire you to show you I'm doing good. It's to make you want to do good, and you know stuff like that. So you know, sometimes you know you put things up there, it's like,

you know why you had to do that. So but then again I thought about it, was like, it's a good thing I did put it out there, you know, saying so people will wake up and know that it's serious. Man, hit me and um, you know I was. It was bad, man. It was bad to the point where I didn't wanna do no days, canceled all my shows. And you know, a matter of fact, when I when I canceled, when when the pandemic happened and everybody started going back to do shows again, they was trying to get me to

come back out and take nothing. I don't go back on into last year, and I was only taking certain dates, certain shows, certain size buildings and stuff like that. So yeah, because for the most part, it did seem like at one point the DJ's was seeming in immune, meaning like there was still DJ's going out party and they was wearing their masks on kind of social distance and but

still going to the parties. I remember seeing Millo in a couple of them, remember seeing it envying a couple of them, and um, so almost almost felt like the DJs is immune at one point. And then, um, then you and k Slay gets sick around the same time,

have you in case late spoke. I spoke to case Slate when it first happened, and you know, because you was in hospitalized, wasn't you know, I wasn't hospital but he was, but he was and and uh yeah, I spoke to case Lay a few times, and then I started speaking with his mom's going back and forth with his mom and show. He was, Okay, haven't heard anything lately, you know what I'm saying. But I'm sure he's getting better.

You know, our hearts was with him. That's my boy, that's you know, that's that's all about do is case La. We're saying, so we wanted to be good. You know, Yes, we're gonna get you. We're gonna get you right. You know what I'm saying this is drink chance we goddamn And you know what I'm saying. What I'm saying, I'm saying, he drinking what you're drinking the best mom. He's always drinking this stuff away from me. Yeah, it's all He's

like DJ. So again, you have no idea how you you you got it right, like when you got it, you have no idea how you got it. We know how we got it here, Well I didn't get it. You didn't get it at that time. No, that was all y'all have the first time we came back after quarantine and we taped our first episode six of us Caught It on set. No but there's all six of us drinking beer. Should we do think that we got it from the local. I know it wasn't. It was

just a spot. I don't know whatever we had, but we six of us that drink those beerst Wow, that's that's crazy. So now moving on, I know you ever thought New York City would be legalized marijuana? I knew at some point. I didn't think like initially, but I do once I seen when I went to Denver, I've seen that laid. I've seen certain places that did have it. I knew at some point it was gonna come to New York. I was gonna come, you know. I thought

it's gonna come faster. I thought it would come before a lot of other places. But you know it happened, you know, and the crazy ship traveling on the plane with him. Yeah, I just came back with a half a pound. You're always sitting on yourself, split it up half bag, half rocked the bag, half my bag because I'm not telling you, hey man, But in l A X they don't even it's a rule. They don't even search your back for that is that rack? That's fire right,

It's I've seen some dudes his back. Searching the airport, they found the weed, looked at it, put it back in the back. Wow I'm talking about yeah, yeah for sure. Let me think about this. All the dudes is locked up in jail for twenty some years and now the ship is leading and he did all that time. I think about that. I was just on a conference call talking about that. Just now, Sweater go crazy. I'm talking about a comedy show about dudes that's in jail. Is

hating the dudes. It's a comedy show, so please in no way with his real life. Think it's serious way making it all up, but it's true, like how the fun or his motherfucker's is locked up, has something to be mad at. So let me ask you something. You've been on the road with cares M, you've been on the road with the rappers, You've been on the road. Well, I've been on the road for myself long. First j I ever seen the toll bus. Yeah, there's not a

nothing truth its first dude in hip hope. Were supposed to make some moise for that, Yeah, next some much more. Because I had two talk bus. I brought my first one, which was a forty ft A matter of fact, when I want to go buy my first bus to dude that I was buying the bus. When he laughed at me, he was like, Yo, nobody buys buses. They rent the bus. I'm comes out. They rent the bus going tour for a couple of months to bring the bus back Dundal. Nobody buys a bus, I said, Man, I gave a

whole bag of money here, get my bus. Game my bus. I came back and bought the bigger bus. When I bought that bigger bus, he's seen how serious I was. And plus I game some of his best bus drivers. A drove for little Wayne, drove for cash, money, drove for you know this snoo Se was one of my bus drivers. Rest of pc ro bust and um. When I came back. When he came back to the second bus, he was like, Yo, you're doing a record company. I was like, yeah, I'm gonna give you a million dollars

from your record company. I was like, no, I'm good. Holy, he's gonna that He's gonna give me a million dollars from my record company to back my record company or the guy who owned the bus. Yeah, that's that's how much he believed and what you were doing, because you is that because he never seen nobody buy bus from me before. This dude got three hundred fifty buses on his law and this dude lives on two thousand acres of laying. Him and his buddy got an airport in

his crip. You said he never seen nobody or he never seen nobody nobody, no, no, no, nobody ever bought just rented. How much was this is this time? The buses he got buses a two point three million dollars on this lawn lined up? You know, mins wasn't that much. I think my pay probably one point three maybe no, I'm lying, I'm lying, is about seven fifty at the time. But he had one point three pre vows and two point three p vows is laid out and he would

fix the busses right there and this lawn he has right. Yes, he would have all these different houses that he built and put people that worked for him in these houses, and mostly everybody that worked from was black. And how he started it was he was um. Him and his brother started his band, this group in nineteen sixty and they made this record and the Wrecking with Top forty,

but they didn't like to fly. So what they did was they bought a school bus and they got to the school bus out they put the couch and there put the chairs and then you know, and they made it comfortab when they went on the road. After the record died down, they rented the bus out. And they've seen all this money that they were making from the bus, so they went and bought another one. Then they brought another one next to you know, each brother ony bus

is a piece. And these buses two point three million dollars the two of us. I wouldn't say they invented. I wouldn't know that, but I know they didn't like to travel. You know what I'm saying. They where they have the one of the ranches in Leedsburg, Lesburg, Florida. Yeah, yeah, that's what all the buses come from. I thought that's the one that owned the bus that he's white, last name was Calhoun, but most of the people that worked from his black. I mean one dude that that he said, yeah,

I'm gonna pick up my girl. He said, were coming to me. I was like, no, I'm good. He got an airplane, left, came back twenty minutes with his girl. It was crazy. Pulled up with the plane. Everybody got a house and got a plane in their garage with either bends or something crazy in front of the house. They building houses on the rand, on the ring. His dude got thirty swamp boats. He lives crazy. Now. Never see nobody lived like that. His brother has the exact

same thing that he has. So when you travel with Carerest, that you're travel on boat. No, no, no, I didn't really travel with care I just did certain shows with Careless, you know what I'm saying. We do like spot days, like I'll do his shows. A matter of fact, I traveled more of a rock kidney. I did Carerest with me and Rock Kim did a whole tour together. Yeah, we did a whole tour. So but me and Caress,

there's so much monumental things, you know what I'm saying. Also, Carest was there with my daughter vinga Love was born. He's a godfather of the love, you know what I'm saying. He was there at the hospital. I was in towns down here in Florida and doing the show with Tampa when she was born, and he was at the hosp.

It was crazy, man. But so like I said, have so much sence to me with so many people, but mostly mostly I've been on the road for myself and it's a pleasure to know that, you know what I'm saying, I could sell out a spot and you know, make a crowd happy and don't have to depend on if I need somebody else there. If somebody else there's it's a plus. But I could do it on my own.

It's dope. But after doing versus yourself and after being on the road with rock Kimp, we do think rock Kim was best doing versus against me and Swiss sat down many times to talk about different people to match up. I mean, we sat down the phone one time for three hours trying to get somebody to match it with l L couldn't find nobody in But the first I first started was Swiss had called me and asking me, well, Busting didn't coming mind. It wasn't a bust that we

was thinking of. No mass a matter of fact, I'm lying, Buster did come up. But when um, how I first started, Swiss had've reached out to me and asked me if I give rock Kim with came when not, No, I don't. That just doesn't seem like a good match to me, all give me us used to be on the block Caress and Rock him. It was always that. It was never Careless and Cane or Rock Kim Kaine, even though Kane was I was just outrageous to us. But it

was all the argument was always Caressing Rock Kimp. But you know, when I reached out to Rod told him, you know, say, I told him why I thought he should do it. But you know, ri Rod moves the way you're gonna move, man, you don't move like you know what I'm saying. And um, sometimes something that's good may not be good for you, you know what I'm saying.

Like I was asked to do versus four times before, not not my own, the help other people, and I turned it down because I didn't feel like it was the right thing for me to do at the time. Sometime people jump on something because the opportunity is there or because the hot thing to do, and it may not be the right thing to do at the right at that time, what I'm saying. So when I did it with Caress and Cane, that made sense, you know, And I told them the why first, you know what

I'm saying. But who was people first? It was somebody else. Um, I think Keith Sweat. I reached out. I wanted me to do it, which out. I love Keith Sweat is one of the greatest. But I just didn't see sense of me standing behind keep Sweat white. He's crooning, crooning what I'm gonna do, Like I'm standing what I'm saying, Like you know what I mean. So that's what I'm saying. Like somebody else might have took down. I'm not knocking that, but it wouldn't have been right for me, you know.

I mean, you wouldn't been able to bring yourself in that situation like I can't be me, you know what I'm saying, Like you just don't make something. It looks like I'm just a token dude standing there like you know, that's not what I do. You do? Play kicking at the dark? What is it? What is it? That was my little What happened was I started playing on before this thing with the with the the quarantine happened. I was playing on i G, Periscope and Facebook Live from

two thousand and fifteen to two thousand and eighteen. What I would do is I would sit there and play with I started. I started in my crib. I played beats and stuff like that. So one day I was in the crib, I was like, you know, I was bored as hell. One day I just said, you gonna cut the camera at the came on and people just like the beasts they were hearing. Now see all these

chicks on them. So I did it again. So I just created a show called the Black Party Live Mixtape where I just played crazy craziness right, but it's not me DJ, and it's just me playing on the computer, just sitting the button joints coming on time, and it worked me talking to my ship and do what I do. So I see all these women up there. One day I said, you know, I got to create a show for the women. I said, what y'all think? And one woman said we should name it No Pants Sundays. I said,

now we're gonna call it No Panty Sundays. Bag got Sunday I did the first show. I had maybe sixty women up there looking at this thing. So every Sunday I would do No Panty Sundays. Every Wednesday I would do Black Party Live Mixtape. Never asked for a dollar, never asked for This is me and my my basement doing it live in front of you know, and started on Paris Scope first. Then I started going to I Live and Paris Scope, and I added Facebook Live and

I had all three cameras set up. So I'm doing this from two thousand and fifteen to two thousand and eighteen. When two thousand and eight team ran around Serious seeing what I was doing on there, and you know, I wouldn't go back to regular radio because I feel like I couldn't beat me at regular radio. No, no knocking, It's just that for me, I needed yourself. I don't know, but no, no, no, I've never been on hot, never been on power there. I asked me years ago to

be on there, but the road. I was trying to, you know, be in the road to do my feuple of times. Yeah, so they came into Serious seeing what I was doing, saying how hot it was. It was like, yo, coming serious. Do you do your things? Do your block party thing? You know, that's something called the block party. And uh, I'll do the first four hours where I played early nineties and two thousands, and that the last two hours I'll play everything new and old and mix

it up. And that's how I've seen radio. I see radio as it shouldn't be a thing where it's the same thing all the time. It should be colors too, It should be things where you don't expect. So it worked out. I've been doing it for five years and as don't when I could play them on me is going my joint and then you know, there's no limitations. I could just do what I feel and you know,

so with that that happened. The Kendrick cam album came that that year, the two Pac movie came that year, of a few other things, but it all came from me sitting they're doing the thing on on on the on in my basement on the net. So after two thousand and eighteen, I stopped because I wanted to drive everybody to serious m you know. Yeah, But it worked out, and then the Quarantine hitt and I came back for

a little while. But that's that. That was. That was actually an ill thing too, because when I heard the Kendrick Lamar album and got to hear you on it, and I was like, damn, like, you know, for him to the West coast, lyrical guys a big up a East coast, you know, DJ, you would think that he was shot out like felli foul or like you know what I'm saying. I said that to him, I said, you got battle cat out there. You have why you didn't get them? These dudes a le just like you know.

He was like, No, they're my boys and my brothers. They who they are. But I know what you did for the music business. I know what you did for the DJs. I know what you did how you changed the game in the music business. And if people this is Kendrick telling me this, we're in the studio. He's saying, you know, if people ain't gonna give you the credit that you deserved, this right here, will you know what

I'm saying. And although I wish I could have, Um, I'm so happy that, you know, and when it's the only album in hip hop that made it to get the Politzo Awards. So he put me in places that my voice in places that I've never been to, and I've been a lot of places, you know what I'm saying, So UM, just that alone, you know, he put me in the face of young kids that might not have ever had the kicking pre experience and don't really know what I do. He had a chance for them It

gave him a chance to go back and see. You know, why would kick and pre be on Kendrick album and they'll go back and check and see. You know what I'm saying. So I wish we could have did a lot more like consers of stuff together. He didn't need me of us, you know, but if we would have did it, it would have been Sonami. We have been crazy. But maybe one day we can still still happen. You know, we don't know if you know shows about giving people their flowers, all right, we want to get him a

big fan. You know what I'm saying right now? You know what I'm saying, motherfucking flowers. Bro, you're one of those. Yeah, we didn't give you last time, but this time the real flowers. Yeah, like your career, they gonna thank you. Let me ask you that way, yea. Make sure make sure you get back to versus. But yeah, I see you in parties and I see you still switch it. I see you still like you still enjoy this. Oh am,

I reading this wrong? No, I love it because I did it when there was no me, when there was no money, when there was no attention, when it was no gas, it was none of that ship. It was like, you know what I'm saying, We did it just yeah. I used to come out with the equipment in the rain, out in the street just so people could see me.

You know what I'm saying. When I got on I sat on the street corner of a hundred fifty five in front of Rutger or a hundred eighth in front of Willie's and sold mix tapes, not knowing I was gonna get shot robbed. The kind of ships. This is in the middle of Holland, and there was a lot of ship going on, killings going on. And when I was in the s Nut Club, I was with the most craziest people that you can imagine in New York, you know what I'm saying. But I didn't do the

things that certain people did. So the way I moved made them dudes look at me in a certain kind of way and protect us being start out, you know what I'm saying. So when I came in that street with the with the with the tapes, I was already solidified at Harlem, but I wasn't. I wasn't. Really Nobody or dude was coming up like your wile about tape from you for twenty holds man, who were you kicking you? I said, put my tape in your in your car. Listen to the beginning of the end show. You're gonna

come back and buy everything. I gotta gallantee, he'll put my joining the car, come back by everything. I used to come out in an hour and sell two thousand tapes in one hour, huntreds on the Hunting tapes and make two thousand dollars in an hour. I was making tapes. I was getting, but I was getting getting. You know what I'm saying. You know, it was crazy like every day all day to the point where it got me to my first album. There that got me to my

first television show. It got me to my first radio deal, first album deal, Sony first album deal was was born of brothers, the KICKI pre the tape album Bismarck, Rest of Piece. He got me that deal and um, I don't even want to album there to tell you the truth. He got me that deal because I got hot in the street with the mix tapes. He came up on me one day I did the show so where he came up and pulled up on me in the MP Yeah, so you don't get shut up there next to you know,

I'm in Berry Padell's office, this big money. I'm like, oh shit, So we did the album. I'm writing the joints in there. I wasn't a rap or nothing like that, but I said little rhymes on my mixtapes, and you know, it caught up in the street. You know, the tapes got really hot, so I guess anything that was on the tapes was gonna catch. So I was saying, those are the rhymes I was saying on there. I would write other stuff. Me and Cooby did the beats. Jan

came out and went on tour with it. You know, it was experienced, but I got the DJ thing is what what blew up and that's what made me. That's what people know me. As you know. So when I did Death Comedy Jam at the time, people they really cared about DJs. They looked at DJs as you know, he just played records. You know what I'm saying. If you wasn't on TV. That's the first television show was

Death Comedy Jain. It wasn't the first televison show. It wasn't on It was the first television show that was minds. That was that I was a part of you know what I'm saying, But I was always I was doing other stuff like that, stuff like that, but the first thing that was mine. I was a really a part of yours. What exactly do you mean that some of the Simmons, Martin, Lawrence, kicking Pre that was the press. No, Russell wants the show. But but I was the beginning.

It's minds too, you know what I'm saying. You think of Death Comedy Jam, you think of Russell, Martin, Kicking Pre and the comedians, so you know, and the um So when that came, that gave me a chance to you know, even though you see me five seconds, it was so huge and your difference for the DJ too, So when you write, you know, yeah, it just opened doors.

That gave people that didn't care about DJs, you know, a chance to see yeah, well all right, and then when I comming to their town to do the actual concert, then they really see you know, the bulk. They would see it like now now, now this is the change in the guard. Now here's when the DJ is starting to be looked at like an artist. Now because of what I did with that television show, what I'm giving those mixtapes and that exactly. But I didn't even get

there yet, and they get there yet. But now we're starting to get to the point where now they now they gotta pay attention because I'm anna forced to be record with on that stage. It doesn't matter what tour it is, who you got, how big his record is, you get kicked pre on that stage, He's gonna be the talk of that show, just as well as that platinum rtists. That That was the stance I had to take in order for people to take the DJ serious.

Before that, we were getting paid fifty dollars a hundred dollars. If you wasn't behind Jazzy, if you wasn't Jazzy Jeff behind Fresh Prince, or you wasn't jam Masson j behind Run DMC, or you wasn't ready alert on the radio, which radio stations around the country wasn't playing We're playing hip hop. So if you had that job, you were special. You know I'm saying. If you wasn't that, you wasn't looked at as you know this great thing, and I'm sitting there like, yo were all great, this is an

art like how they going like nah? So I had to take the stance I took. I gotta pay me a certain way. You ain't putting me in no corner, on no stage, center stage and gonna RiPP the building down if you if I'm packing this building, the same building that you're paying this guy that only got two records, he only come on stage for a half hour to rock out, and I'm there for two hours destroying the spot. And you're gonna pay me the same way you're paying him.

You're gonna treat me the same way you're treating them. And if you're not give it to somebody else, you'll be back around. Because you have to know your value. You know, I have to. You have to take that serious and if know, if you don't, nobody else will. And that's what happened to where it changed the garden. Then I made the first album of his kind of soundtrack to the streets, you know what I'm saying, where I had J and Nahas and this one and that

went on the air. I was able to do that, the first to make the kid to pre take album a DJ as a rapper. So I did a lot of things. You know, we're innovating to help the DJ move forward. But if you go back again. Who's inspiring you to do tapes to to DJ? Who's the beginning of all this too? When I came in, I started DJ and with starts out mike and in the SNS club, any meaning happened like that sn S Club is a

place that you wasn't just allowed of being there. You had to be somebody, You had to be this certain kind of person. Right And I'm sitting there the first time I've ever been there, and a drug dealer walked up. It said that somebody drives touch of class. You know, I bet a hundred fifty dollars. I bet a hundred fifty dollars that kid will be starch outing, walked up to me. I'm like, nah, man, I'm not here for that. I'm shutting, like nah, I don't even me start you.

I knew of there. I'm wanted to listen some plane he's playing right there. I'm sitting there just watching everything that was going on, like this some ship you spending at that point here, I was playing you. I'm not at the spot. I was sitting there just like watching what's going is my first time there, so I'm watching this. I'm looking what's going I'm like, damn, this is what they're talking about. It because I always heard about the asking man. You know, this is what they're talking about.

Seeing all these people and you know, stiffer street people out pole walking and this one walking I'm looking at, I'm like, damn. Ship. The dude came up and he shouting, you know, hunting feet out without like nine no, no, you know what drug dealers at the time. You know, you can't tell him. They're gonna they're gonna make you. Yes, you death. Come on and the Starshouse said something slick

on the mic. God Bless and Soul. He said something slick on the mic up there, and I ran up there and uh, did one move blew the whole club up. He turned to me, he was like, your kid, I'm selling twenty out of the the tapes. We should do it together. We split the money ten ten, Like I aren't fucking We end up doing it. So we've got six tape decks in there copying the tapes. People by the tapes right there and they, you know, the tapes was all over the place. So me and Star we were so

loved in that club. You couldn't breathe wrong on us. You couldn't look wrong as or anybody that came in there. We were so protected by some of the most craziest dudes that we you know, we wasn't on that, but Day lived a certain way and they and they took us very serious. But we went through raids and there we went through cops coming there, breaking up the toilets, do get throwing guns, crack bottles, bottles over the floor,

and it was crazy. Man. We'll leave there going up the block to the Zodiac, which is another club on by the same person getting there, trying to be rampacked, somebody coming in. All the gambling. It was a crazy time. But I did that for a year and a half with Star and you know what, I'm glad I did it, you know what I'm saying. And that's why my first record on my first album was called the Apollo. It's

about salute and hallom and uptown. And now my record Uptown was the same thing, to go back and salute the people that helped me up. You know. So I'm not I may not agree with what they might have been doing at the time, but I wouldn't talk down on it because those are the ones that was buying the tapes. They are the ones that kept my name out there. So it was that, like how Stripper is the A and os for UM, like like um strip club music, Drug Dealers was the A and off for

UM for New York music. For the st Yeah, my mixtapes was the soundtrack. Was the soundtrack to those type of people. You know what I'm saying. When you when they drove down a FA avenue and they heard their names screaming out on the tape, it meant so much to them, you know what I'm saying. And then the type of the type of music that I was bringing out as the music that people like what it wasn't just me, it was me. It was start Shot, it was Booty be was you know that type of music.

I pulled a lot to the game start Shot boils out of the game Booty Boil out to you. But that type of music made the street people feeling. So it was like a It was just like a feeling. They had that certain kind of music. It was their soundtrack. It was the soundtrack. That's why I named my album soundtrack the Streets my second album, UM. When I did that because I gave them the soundtrack for so long with the mixtapes, and when I put this album together, it was like I was kind of almost doing it

that way, but in a in a different way. I wasn't trying to be like a DJ on the on the album, I was a produce. I was looking more like I was trying to be a Quincy Jones. And at the time, Quincy Jones had called me to come in to do his album and you just said that, well, Criscy Jones, he did accused you joint album. He asked me to come and start the album off with Stevie One and Ray Challs. So I did the first record with Stevie Wanning, Ray Charles Abano. It's called at the

Good Times Roll. So I'm sitting there in the studio with Crincy Jones and Rod Templeton. I'm in the middle of the Rod Templetons to do that Wark wrote off the wall out for Michael Jackson. I'm sitting there between them. They got their arms around me. I'm looking at him like looking let him like, disn't gonna kid, this is what I want you to do. And he's telling me this stuff when I'm standing there saying, yo, look at the money that I'm sitting in between. Just the fact

that I'm in between these dudes. You know, sometimes we we we all we get these looks and we get these accolades. We don't really look at how special it is because we always get in accolade. So it's like a thing we used to But I seeing pinpoint each thing for what it is. And to sit there to be called from Quincy Jones, first of all, let's not to get to get into the studio, just to be called. To have that in his mind, that is everything. Then to be sitting there between him, you know. And then

he asked me to come to his uh party's birthday party. Right, I go to his birthday party. As soon as I get to the door, Oprah Winfrey, it's right there, she goes, Oh, that goes to my baby kid, capret, my man's I got two of my dudes with me, my man, Doug, you, my man. I see they looked at each other like kiss because they bugger. They from the blockday O be

around this stuff. So they see Open Winfrey saying that I was buggy because I don't even know what she knew me, but she said that, so that me her Brandy took a picture hung out. Quincy took me to his case where he had fifty five Grammys in the case. This isn't his party, this is fifty five grammys. We try to get one. He got fifty five in the case. And this is back then. So the dude was big, very influential to me, and that's what I wanted to be. So when I did soundtrack, and that's how I was

thinking of being the Quincy Jones and hip hop. So at what point you and start y'all stopped making the tapes together once I started, Once I left it, ask um anything I ever do. I didn't even want to be stuck right the set the tapes was a stepping stone for me. When Hot ninty seven asked me to come and do Hot nanty seven, I told him no, not because there wasn't the number one station. It was because there was the number one station. They didn't need

me them saying already had what was going on. Plus I wanted to be in the world. It's before the any keep in mind, this before the internet. So I'm doing two two shows around the country. I wanted to touch Mississippi. I wanted to touch Florida. I went to touch California. I want to touch these people and let them see what New York was and how we could bring New York to y'all and make y'all happy and

still be able to do what y'all like. In Houston, they got music that they loved that nobody ever heard. When when when you go there and you know that music, you become so much bigger, And that's what happened with me. I would go to St. Louis. I would go to these different places to make sure that the main DJ out there, you know what's going on. It was popping okay because of my show. Will make sure we blow you up out because you all the men do it in the city. So I'm gonna make sure we keep

the light on you. You know what I'm saying, because a lot of dudes at times, the promoters are come and get get me to come to the show, and that main DJ in that city was saying, Yo, I'm the hottest do it out here. Why you gotta get kicking free? And there the promoters say, sit down and watch him. Sit there and watch, and then that DJ watch and see that first show, and then I come back and do another show. And you see that show and how I ripped the mud hole in this place.

And now when I come back, that DJ is doing me At that show. He never talked on the microphone, He never played records quick or the way I played. He never played those type of records. But when I come back, that's what he's doing. Now imagine them. I'm going all around the world and everywhere I go, all the DJs is doing that. Before that day wasn't doing that, you know what I'm saying. So that was my contribute, my contribution to music that you know, to help the

DJ move along, you know what I'm saying. And it was it was always about looking at the DJ as an artist. It was never about just me. It's never about me, and he showed I do. It's never about me. It's always about the crowd. I take myself and look at look at this. If I'm in the crowd watching myself, and what would make me want to come back to see me again, what would make me feel good watching me again? What would make a promoter want the book

be again? You know what I'm saying. And that's what makes me go so hard, because it's not about me, it's never been about me. Yeah, yeah, so the rumor is right. I'll say his name. Was gonna say his name, but um like funk Flex used to not let his the DJs that come on before him play certain records. Right when I found out something of a normal thing like if you if you're if you're the man DJ, you tell these dudes you know you can't play this, this and that is that? Is that something you've ever

done and there's a reason for it. If you've seen Technician, the DJ that did the joint with the Lot, Technicus has been on the rod with me for twenty some years. Technique has seen me ripped different places down and do different things to where he became so great because it wasn't just me, he was other DJs he watched, but he seen me on the constant basis do this every show. So when he did what he did with the locks,

I wanted surprise. He's supposed to, right. But the reason why my shows are so have so much magnitude to it is because I want Like I said, it's not about me. I want people to feel better than they did before they got did. They can't do that if they hear the same song three or four times a night. You notice how a lot of parties right now, everybody standing around and everybody's in their phone and all that that don't happen in my parties. My parties right exactly

because because they the continuity. It's a continuity that has to keep going, has to be a beginning in the middle of the end. You have to build people up, the saying and it's you against the whole room, for the people that you don't even know. You gotta say, it's up to you to satisfy everybody in this room at one time. So how do you do that? You have to be the best you can be, and how do you do that is you have to tell a story.

If you're a DJ that comes in at ten thirty at night and nobody drank nothing at ten thirty at night, who wants to hear out how this record at ten thirty at night? But this DJ is thinking about burning the next dude that comes out. He's thinking about himself. He's thinking about, let me get as much shot as I can. Don't matter about the event, don't matter, it, don't matter, none of that. And that's why I bought a DJ. Of course, the country with me everywhere I

who open up. I'm paying this dude. I'm paying for his hotel. I'm he's seeing it. You know, that's bread I can keep in my pocket, But I care about my crowd so much that I'll lose that bread to make sure that every show is right. You don't hear the same song and one night because we have so much music to play in the way we played, it's

gonna be so crazy you ain't gonna miss it. But even if they did play the record before for you and you played the same record, it it doesn't the way that the showman ship that you had those DJs didn't have it. Yeah, it really doesn't doesn't matter, but it takes the way of impact that I'm trying to better. It's an impact that I want to keep. If you heard the song that that you wanted to hear all night and then I come and play, it ain't gonna

be the same impact now, same thing, vice versa. Let's say it's me opening up for you, which is very rare, But let's say that's the case. I'm gonna stay. It's about the people. I know that you're the principal. They're paying you a certain amount of way to do a certain things and look at you would did it before? And then it many times like you know what I'm saying that, And that's what it's about. It's about knowing it's not about you. But who do you open up for?

And I mean, like I said, it's ver be rare that I opened up for anybody, because I'm always headlouted who I opened up for. A matter of fact, the last one I did, the last one, the last person I went before was Mr. The c. We did a joint in Brooklyn, Okay, okay, and we missed to see his name is the finisher, So it's in this contract. It's not as in this contract, but you know that it's the respect like I do your day, that's what it is. You're the finishing, finish it. You know what

I'm saying. It's a great DJ On top of that, and they're like, he can't follow me, you don't do your thing, But I would give them hell in that build there's a lot things. You know, you gotta step it up. DJ. Did you find out that now it's getting million dollars a show? How do I feel? What? Like? How do you feel about that? Yeah? Like you didn't hear these DJ's is now and they're technically not playing records some of them. Some of them are playing sounds

daring different. I'm gonna say if you if you about d M, yeah, obviously honestly, if you told my d M, E d M is big no matter who plays it, it's the music that it's the music itself. You know, you got the words kids like exactly. It could being

a drugs themselves. It could be that, it could be, it could be it's the music for I remember A Corn said to me, your kid, you can go to Europe and sell out conscience by yourself in the arenas because there's DJs out there, they don't have no name that's doing it with the E d M music, or you got to do start making dan music. It's not what I do. I do it. I can make it, but I will make it for somebody else. Absolutely, I can't make anything. I can't made any kind of music,

and that's why I do. That's why I produced. You need to do. Don't get stuck in one box be able to make anything and somebody. When Madonna asked me to produce her joint, I not know my daughter reached out to do something for her M D M A album. I did a record call Madonna's Madonna. Nobody may not say nothing bad about Madonna, that's how but not a boss me right, no finger pop going on. But she gave me a big bag for this record that she

wanted me to do, right called Masterpiece. I did the record done, then she asked me to do She did the record with Nicki Minaj right that was out, and she paid L M F A yo to do the remix. But then she paid me the same amount of money she paid me for the Masterpiece record to see what I was gonna do with the Nicki Minaj. And she never got the record. She never heard the record, never received the record, never got the record, and she paid me this money. The record never came out and played it.

You never set the record in. They never asked for the record. I even couldn't even getting touched with him. Two big bags paid you and got away from you like as if they but Donna's the ship got never talked bad about. Let me just say, you know, I know when Donna's a gangster. She had the same face on when she was hanging out with Kanye A b and Mayweather as she had on when she hung out with Tupac. It's the same exact face. I said. She knows how to turn on if my face on a legend.

So um, yeah, let's do quick time. Let's do quick time, all right, So we don't know if you know, you want to explain the rules? Come on, because I always sucking up. The rules are, he's gonna get your two names if you politically correctly and answer the question drinking. So that means if you say both or neither, we're drinking. You're drinking. We're all drinking. But if you if you say you made easy, it's one of the other, nobody's drinks. If you pick one, you pick both or neither, we

all drink. All right, you can't think of anything any you could think at that? Alright? Be ready, Hey you want to do with shots? You want? What kind of shots you want? I'm gonna do, Mom, I'm not the kind of stay all right? Cool? You ready say d M MAX or Tupac. I'm gonna say d m X and cal of a reason. Yes, yes you can't. I was putting dm X on stage before DMX was dm X. Do you have a dog with him. No DN mix

was on. I put DN mix on stage in the Castle in the box when I was playing the Castle, and Dan Mexic even had the rough voice at the time hit a different kind of voice, and he was going that hey solo spell bound right, yeah, he said until the ka back then. So he was always DM Max. I ain't gonna say before he was mad, but he was always. But he wasn't known to the world yet. And he had record called Born Loser that was playing on BLS. Haven't heard no other DJ played. Was the

only DJ I ever heard play that record. A matter of fact, I've really heard anybody players since then. And after that he blew up when he got his deal. But so that's why I would say D Max, ok no problem, Jada Kiss or jay Z So kids took a shot you when when you ask me this, what do you ask your skills while your criteria to answer one we or the other. M I'm gonna say Jay because of everything, not just because of the records, because of the biggest business and everything that's going on, all

the opportunities he's creating for everybody, you know. So yeah, okay, big al or big punt and we got to talk about bigger afterwards. I'm gonna say big m hm, take a shot. You ain't gonna have to take a shot. Japanese, the Japanese. Japanese, right, your next hold out for you rock him k Arras. I gotta go with Cameras, Okay, he's gonna do that anyway. Queen Latipa emc like this is always a hard one for me. M h. I love him, like, but I gotta go with Queen because

of huh, what's what's her real name? Everybody keeps saying her real name because of you got going on? I'm sorry it again. I gotta go with Dana because of her range of everything she has going on, but it's really even almost Yeah, I mean Boxy Brown or eve mm hmm. You're drinking all right? Cool, expect that spect that. Yeah, I'm lice and my ship too and my job in Nis Della, y'all. You know what you can do? Shot? Light shots? Let shot shot? Yeah, you can do light shots.

You go heavy at all? That was dope, Okay, salute. I'm gonna get the next one. Buster eminem let me let me oh yeah, admit to you. I told you shot you do light shot buster eminem mm hmm. I shot just on the bottom the light shot like shots. He's gone, all right, I don't believe it. Oh this is a good one. Rather alert or molly mall. He went with you, you know, by the way we had he'd been with you. But I gotta go with better lars above all the me. Okay, Illmatic or ready to die.

This is the wee spot. The legal we Spot text me every day. I figured, like, if my friend did this, he'd be in jail right now. The legal tells me they deals, you know, on the legal we Spot. They text me every day. I got I got a new strawberry ship. I'm like, yo, just like he's like, I really racing these messages. Illmatic are ready to die. Take a drink on that one, Okay, damn, I'm man. Don't like, don't lie. I'm going very like good eat you the

next drink it up. Let drink up. Cheers to the cheers. Next one is MPC three thousand or machine machine. Even though the mp I have all the MPs. But and I started off as an MP dude. But my this sidem I just made that did with the with the machine. The whole album he was dumb. Yeah, I love machine. I'm gonna do it your MTV raps or video music box, video music box. That's kind of like an easy one.

Ralphael James, we need you up here, Yeah we do. Okay, this is this is one you might have to drink O dB or bus Markey B Marquis of course, O D B. Of course that's my dude. But this Markee, come on, he's the first in that style. He's the first to do ahead of his time. He plus, he did so much for me. He got my first album deal. It seems he's in so many people's stories. It's crazy. They need to do a movie on business. I want to I want to play Bess. I've been saying that

for when to do a movie on Bess? Absolutely? Absolutely, this made a whole another life for itself, entertainment with kids with the yo. Don't even know him about music. Incredible. He was like a superhero. Okay, Snoop Dogg or a game Snoop, DJ PURMEO Pete Rock m HM boor up. You don't have to changing. That's a tough one. That's a tough one. Give me a little ice Cuban. Then you got next one. Cheers, cheers, cheers, cheers, chess, um the locks or run DMC p huh, that one for

me is easy. It doesn't seem that. Come on, we gotta go with one DMC one they would um, I want to ask this one ahead, funk flex or g J clue? Who lets I thought she's gonna say folk flex the kicker free, That's what he was gonna say that. Uh, folk flex the clue both in fluent. You both legends. Uh, let'll tell your drink, okay, all right, all right, I just expect that. Yeah, you're taking more because even to have to take Hey, I get hey, that's that's respect.

You got a lot of friends, you a lot of friends, a lot of people. Okay, chers, cool, let's take that first out. You want the next one? I got it. M hmm, I got it. Kanye or Pharrell. Pharrell is the ship, but I would have to go with Kane. Let me think about that. Look about that stuff free. It's called quick time. Something's can be quick, something's cary something quickly. It's just nothing quick a long time. Yeah. Yeah, Plus I got to see these people after we um,

I'm taking a drink. Japanese some of Ice, a little solo. Oh you know I'm gonna turn Dominic answer Drinks, battle Cat, Felly Fell, battle Cat, Funny feel the Ship. But battle Cat did so much man bigger battle Cat and big both of the Blacks. Absolutely, but that Dre, you know, to work that he's done with Dre battle Cat. It's just so much. It's so much Wu Tan Clan or n w A clan. That's because your East Coast. That's because I was the first play without clan on the radio.

Contam Let's have the rough draft of Protecting Attacking. Next they came in. I think it was Oldbris somebody else that came to station with the record on the Arrange label and not even checked it was an orange label and they I didn't check the yeah, like it was what it was an independent. I guess it wasn't siding a lot of so they I played it. He didn't even check to see if it was curses on it. Protecting that played it and blew. If you look at the movie, if you look at the documentary, you see

them going crazy when I played the record. That's the true story because it's the first one playing the radio and the documentary on the Hulu. You see the last joint. Yeah, he got me on the radio. He took I'm talking on the radio, asked me to do it. I talked on the radio and then I played the song and you see them one the season one season the first arm and Babbio played it. They played it on the underground radio, but I think I think they they was the first to play it on underground and I was

the first to play it on the Manastrement commercials. That's crazy saying you broke ut clan. It wasn't because of you because of me. You played it, you heard it? Yeah, and what did you think hearing that? It was crazy because that was something brand new. But I ain't expect him to be blow up like me and fifty. Me and fifty was set was all the same label at the same time. I did. I produced Rowdy Rowley for fifty right. I knew he was God. I knew it was.

I wanted him on my album. As a matter of fact, I don't know what happened. I don't know what track Rasses did. Don't know what happened, But I wasn't that time. It's a freestyle with fifty, It's me, you that's in my session. That was right. He was on album. It was my punt. You did the red call the block part right. But I want a fifty or album. But I don't know what happened, But I end up doing a rally rally for fifty. I had no idea. I knew it was incredible, but I didn't know what he

was going to this level. You know what I'm saying. I see that. You know what I'm saying. Maybe I should have, but that dude, he really evinly worked. You drawing the same parallels when you heard who, you didn't know it was gonna go. I didn't know it was gonna be like I know what's a hit, but I don't know. I didn't. I don't. You can't never predict how big somebody's gonna get, you know what I'm saying. But I know when somebody says your kid is just a hit, I can predict it. I can say, yeah,

that's it. And I did that for a lot of Jack. I got so many gold plaques and gold awards and all that come from that. You know what I'm saying. Okay, Kendrick or j Cole, I'm gonna say, Kendrick only because k J. Cole never came and got me. Kendrick did album, podcasts or radio. I say podcasts, but radio makes you a superstar. Radio when you get your record played on the radio and the DJs is on it and and in int the votation that makes you a start. That

makes you a superstar. Podcast. They always asked me to do podcast. My radio show on Serious Sex and Fly the Block Party. If you listen to my show, I always keep everything positive. You could have did some ship last night that was negative. Something can I have you could have got the rest of or whatever. I don't talk about that. I talk about moving forward, not not

can anybody that do because we need that. You know what I'm saying, But it's just what I choose to do so that when people used to ask me, your kid, why don't you do your own podcast? That always been in my mind do I have to talk down on people? And then I realized I didn't, So maybe I might,

you know, put one together. Never know Doggie style or the chronic chronic, because there would be no Doggy style problem chronic like that Dr Dre or puff Daddy, take a drink, You're want to vote TV God Damn, I'm dinking this Japanese del y'all baby, and some of that down mhm, DJ Quick or DJ Musty Mustars must Ship. I told Mustard wait till you see it publishing checks. They had that crazy year of him playing wait till you see him Puffic's gonna be crazy, and now he

lives in a crazy house. But I'm gonna go with Quick Quickly because yeah, we've been trying to get quick on here as well. Okay, you remember Bernie Max said, who do you think you think you? DJ Quick kicking Break? Yeah, Quick, that's right, that's right, Djum Juice or New Jack City, New Jack City. But aren't you in Juice? No, but Juice was in the club that that club that they did the Battle Win, that was the powerhouse. I made that club big down. That's why they did the movie

and that club. I love the movie, but the other movie was more really there. Yeah, the DJO was up on top of the It was like a rail. Yeah. Yeah, it was like a rail in the year, and then they put people in front of it. They brought something money it's to put people in front of it. So yeah, it was dope. But New Jack City, I think was hit harder, heal harder than the street. That juice. The juice was incredible. But respect or loyalty? Last question, loyalty,

because loyalty is gonna bring it's automatically respect. If you have loyalty to me with me, you respect me, right absolutely. We always say that that's the only trick question we got here because really that's the only time you should be really taking a shot. It's loyalty, respect because I think they go hand in hand. And I mean everybody

has their own perspective, everyone's own perspective. Then yeah, Well with my people, people that always been around the circle, myself around, you know, there's always been a respect thing. It's always been loyalty. My manager been my manager twenty something, twenty seven years, twenty six years. Uh, my role manager, Jim, he'd been my manager, my role manager for just as long. And Jim is this hape of dude. He's trying to take being pictures. He don't wants to take pictures of him.

He don't care about all the cute ship going on. I don't care about none of that. I went around and gave jobs to a lot of people around my old block, you know, and no shot to them. But they it just wasn't for them. This is you being lawyer, This is me being Loyd of my people opened up a hand shot for ten years with Curtis. That cuts everybody said, Curtis, Curtis Smith open a shop called Ebenez.

No Curtis Smith, uh shop called Ebenez in the hood in my in my block for ten years, you know, to try to get back to my spo always gave back, you know, try to go back to get people that grew up with me or whatever a job and it's not It may not be for them, you know what I'm saying. Everything is not for everybody. I remember one dude said to me, your kid, I want to go on your tour bus. You look like you'll be having a bunch of fun. Man, You'll look like you'll be

doing your thing. I don't want to go hang out cool come on big him on. Two days later. Y'all don't know y'all do this ship? Man, How you're gonna be in this bus all the side because it's not for you. You're not well, I can I would saying that is old. The persons I'm taking that was nice. I just put the bag inside the toilet. Boat. I've never heard of this kid stopped the bus? All right, all right, so what are you doing? All right? That

means he keeps the bus. You gotta get somewhere quick, right, Yeah, you don't want to stop. I don't want to stop. You get you get the path, Marfa. Put the bag. Put that ship in the toilet, right you ship yours in that bag, and twist the tie of that bag and throw the ship out. Throw the bag. It's like, what the problem is? Everybody s everybody that smells that ship, so be knowing that it bothers everybody, and maybe you want to do it even bore anybody or you kill

what pun? One time? And Pun was given everyone welfare cheese. So on the busts, A bunch of these things is coming to me that you can't and we would have with you. And I'm like, what do you mean, like, yeah, would punt? I can't allow that. And then they're like, Punt is given And Pun was literally given everyone welfare che because you know what that is. It clogs you up. You can't, you can't, you can't ship for the next

twenty hours. And I was just like, oh my god, this is torture, Like we're pulling a little with Roy Rogers. I don't know you got something, y'a don't know where Roy Rogers is? Well over Roy Rodgers. You got Rogers to the south. Yeah, I think so somewhere up north. I haven't seen boy and years. As a matter of fact, did that show my ages now? Like I want you you who happened? If I were, I've seen the driving around like yeah, definitely hard. Like you know, you don't

realize waffle houses just some south ship. Yeah it is never if your waffle houses in New York, you know how much money they made? Really bigger being in New York. If there was a man, I wonder if we could open one up about this that's like us one a white castle out here, Yeah, a white castle in like Kentucky they got they got crystals out here. No, that's not the same man at all. That's not saying you had crystals before. Yeah, ain't. It's not the same as

the murder Burgers. You don't even go to the bathroom the same you you don't get the bathroom ass long. Yeah, you gotta regret it. You gotta be like, yeah, this was not Why do you have to lead the club. Here get murder Burgers. By the way, they call the murder Burgers murder Burger. I talked about Joe the other day. I was like, Yo, you gotta add for murder, but that murger a boxter the box. You've been picking up holl them all day, but you haven't. I haven't heard

hand in hand. Well, like I said, you want to raise in the I don't know. I know. I was born in Brooklyn. Oh wow, I was a couple of brains, but I was living wingsbur projects like fabricant projects back for the Avenue Brooklyn and I moved to Manhattan for three years, then left Manhattan and I moved to Bronx. When I moved to Bronx, that's when I got kick and pre the name a girl that used to um be around. His name Alga Carter. She said kick a pre side, A good name for a DJ because you

was drinking are sons? I was no, no, no, no, no, I was DJ dr spake at the at the time. We got a damn name. First name was empty Yahoo with the ball to being turrible name name. But when she said kick pri she was all girl name. It was a girl named Alga Carter. We were going to Clamon. We're going to she was one of the girls. I was from work right away, but we was an excuse me. We was in a class together. We're gonna remember Mr Grant's class, and we were going in six rooms, six

three oh four. That was a classroom. And she said, kick a pre sounds like a good name for DJ. So we had the sport good store called Effort Sporting Goods, and we used to take sweatshirts to put our name on it. And at the time, we used to eyron decreases, so we have eight creases look for us to shirt and our name going down and things. So I had kicking ping my joint. I was out. She did give you the she just said so. Some months later she was shot by accident by straight bullet and died. Damn.

We did not know the stories right, and that's what made me keep the name and then just too right. So that's how I got the blessed. Let's make some noise, Let's give my moments, give him seven seconds and moment songs. Bless up woll I didn't know that stories gonna turn like that. That's how you got She never said that you drink sons of that wasn't out there. Now they come out into the nineties. I thought that she was out forever I was a little kid. Didn't come out.

It was Carr out there. Our heart was out. Car Hot Card, you know what. Car Hard might have been out, but we wasn't on it yet. Yeah, because that story you're talking about. I feel like they still sell a car Hard right now. Okay, yep, So I said his name earlier. We skipped over it. But at one point it felt like you and funk Flex. I don't know if it's the wrong ship. I felt like you guys couldn't get along listen man, or didn't get along. I love gona take a shot. Gonna take a shot for

this some of that. I'm gonna take a shot. You gotta take a shot. I'm taking a shot, alright, coo cool. So what happened between you on funk Flex Flex? Let me just say that like that, but like that, so we're happened. But but but you know, he get a little man. I'm a gorilla and this ship, you know what I'm saying. And at the end of the day, you know, I set a mark in this game. Funk funk Flex. What got me mad with Flex was that I felt like he was taking his power and mutioning

in people's faces. If you're a little kid, right and you make a record and you put the record down and it's doing good, that's going on that, don't get in your radio and say, Yo, this is trash over the record. You know what I'm saying. That's that's sort of respects. So that's what my problem was. But when he said, I felt like what happened was we we we we had some words. I offered them to you know, something happened and then I got on that and say, yo,

looks batter. It's batter for a hundred thousands. That's batter for the name. You lose, you can't use your name again. So you was on so you was you can't use your name no more. You can't lose. I can't use my name if I lose. I felt like I skipped over match. So wait a minute, um, y'all talking and do you said less battle for honey Grant? But how did this know? What happened was somebody had called me and say, your kid, Flex's ship doing you on the net right on the radio. No, no, none of that.

You have to put a post up on the net, right. I was like, when you're talking about so, I want to go look at it. I was like, it said it was a picture of him, read alert and uh chuck shut out and it said under the caption, uh uh. People trying to people try to rewrite history. But I was there, I'm like, what I gotta do with me I know about history is they can talk about me. So I called this person back and at first like na, I was like, I was like, nah, he talked about

He was like, yeah, he is talking about so. Anyway, I called Flex right, and I said to flex Flex, who are you talking about? And instead of Flex saying to me your kid, it was you? Or was this personal? Was anybody else? He got crazy with me on the phone. He said some crazy shot on the phone, like Yo, don't don't if you don't like the way I do things,

don't talk to me. Don't we ask him who I did this with and who that he got crazy with the floor You're talking like, I'm thinking he made here in the moon with maybe some people in the hot night he seventy He's trying to like show them that he could talk to me like that some kind of way. I don't look, but that's what he did. And the next thing, you know, he said he had text the text messages that we had talked to each other on the net, which I was like, come on yeah, But

then he said I fell off. So when he said that, it was like, okay, now we gotta get that was go top. So that's when that's when the problem became. When he said I fell off, Like I fell off? Why because I'm not getting on everybody nerves on the radio station every day or New York. I'm all over the over the country, shaking it up, like you don't see me every day in New York. There, I fell off when you're talking about and I kept a DJ when I put my message out, let's keep it on

some DJ ship. He got personal. So when he did that, that's when it got crazy. What do you mean when he said he got personal? Because he said I fell off? Like why would you say that? That's not the truth? Like why would you even put that out there? Why would you think that was personal? Why you didn't think that because you diagonize you Because yeah, I know that, but but but still if you say that the people that don't know don't look at it in a negative way.

I didn't say anything negative. I can't. I just say nothing about your girl, your job. I just said nothing about your friends. I said something you, let's battle with funt of summer chair. Let's go battle for the day, battle for her thousands. And I left it dead. But he went somewhere else with it. So with that being said,

it went where went. But at the end of the day, the whole time, if people have called me and say, oh kid, I need you in the middle of everything we were going through, if he would have called me and said, oh kid, I need you for anything, I'd have been right there no matter what. It wasn't nothing personal. It was some dji. It was something, and it was good for hip hop. It was good for himpop. I was dope. It lit up ship. He caught a lot of pressure because I've got somebody at you do suck

a ship too. I'm not somebody that you shoot on. I'm I'm been one that opened the door for DJ to do what they're doing now. I'm been when that brought the money and the fly ship to the DJ business. I'm Benn want to show you how to have style and peace and know you're worth you know what I'm saying. So I'm not the one you do that with. Promoters hired me all over the country. Fans come see me and sell out everywhere I go. There's a reason for that because it's not just the talent. I don't want

to treat people. I don't. I don't shoot on people. There's not out there that says kick appreciate it on people did bad business. But what made you say you wanted to battle for a hunder grand? Because he said something first, because he went on to set, I fell off. So when he said no, no, no, no, I'm sorry. What made me say that was because he got smart with me on the phone instead of him saying, your kid,

I wasn't talking about you. Oh yeah, I was talking about you, But he said, don't be asking what's going on on my phone? On my timeline, don't you know? And if I if I can show it went on it, don't call about phone no more. You're talking to me like he's something me like I ain't when you talk to you like that. So when he said that, that's when I put up with the post. Your dog will be cool. But yeah, let's do it for a hundred thousand, let's do it for the name as maths. Just do

it for the coach. We shouldn't did that supper Jam and that was that he got disrespectful and says some other things and then they went further. So that's how that went. But but I'm gonna say this, funk Master Flex is a legend. You can't deny what he did with Hotting on the seven. He made that that station should be the number one hip hop station in the world, you know what I'm saying. So you can't take that from him. Let's make sure we don't forget that, you

know what I'm saying. Let's not get caught up in order of them locking and forget that he did do that. You know what I'm saying. So shout the funk Flex. Got love for him. That right there with some hip hop ship is nothing personal. He's one of the greatest ever. Did it? Okay, But that's what up, Bigger Funk Flex, That's what now. Something I was a little thrown off from watching the verses was um, you and scratch back

and forth. I get that, you know, Chris, I'm calling Chris can arrest one and Kane was gonna talk to Ship. We knew that part, right, We knew that these are the two biggest you know, uh hip hop guys battling each other head the head. But then you and Scratch also icons and at one point, like he has this routine where he's like he's you know, he hasn't scratched, scratched, Yes,

I'm sorry, they make that clear. He's turning the back, and then he goes, you know, sucker, you know, DJ kicker free and yeah, you wanna you wanna respond already, like all right, let's start here. Kane called me and asked me to do versus act old Kine no, because I didn't want to be in a battle situation. I told Kane, I said, I will do it for both of you, you and Chris together. It's never been done on on versus before, so I'll do it for both

of y'all, for both of them. But when he called you to ask you to DJ for him for him, right, I didn't want to be in a battle situation. Plus, being Caress has a as buss as h came do. We have a big history with each other, so I still didn't want to be in a battle situation like I told you earlier, but asked four times to be on versus turned it down. So I didn't want to be in that type of situation. So when Kate asked me,

I told him low that. Chris called me baby like an hour later and say, y'all what you do versus me? I told him though, and I told the reason why. I told him though. Then he called me back an hour later and he said, yo, Kay has scratched. He was like, yeah, we should do it. It's min I know you know what I'm saying. I was like, you know what if you came cool your let's do it right. It's bigger than me, and I got nothing to do with me. It's about y'all. Want to see y'all get

your flowers and everything like that. So I left it like there in yourself okay. But I got a call k k back to let him know because I told him no, I want him to feel no kind of way. So called came back, told him I'm gonna do it like Chris wanted me to do with. He was like, yo, please go do it with Chris. I wanted to be monumental. Went to that I was like sure, He's like, yeah, cool that he called me back. He said, what's going over?

You were scratched? Now being scratched? Big cool? Wait, King's calling me back after you tell him no, I mean that you're doing it with Carris one and he's asking you what's wrong with y'all? Like he knew something was hold on, Hold on, hold, this is already. Let me go with being scratched being cool for a long time. We call each other all the time and all that. Like if any show I do, I put them on stage with me. With other dudes are scared to put him on stage, I put him on stage and we

do a little t DJ together. All that, he started Scratch Vision. I would come to Scratch Vision helping with Scratch Vision. Then like four shows when he came to Brooklyn rocked it out. He asked me to do fifty two beats out did two in the sixty three beats for him. All that right, And soon as I started playing music on the net, I've seen the change. One day he called me it was like, Yo, you're playing music on the net on that ship. That cut off

every y'all. I'm like And then he called me another time and he said something else that was like, so I let it fly. But then when it got crazy, it was when he started putting stuff on the net. He started putting stuff up there. I remember one time I had said, up, I have uh put all the far needles out first on the on the red on the television. He put up. And then he was not the first to do all the far needs And I'm like, yeah, you could have called me and said that if I

didn't know that I wasn't the first. I didn't know, like I never seen nobody put him up before me. But if I wasn't, you could have called my phone. We just got the phone with each other. You could have called me and told me that. But he didn't do that. He did that. Then the second day was the cash at thing that happened in the quarantine. He went in comment on that. Then it was something else and it was, you know, it was something so where me and him when just didn't see how the eye

and I just wasn't sucking with scratch for whatever. And then we came to the battle to the versus thing. And when the versus state came up, he took it a part of himself to try to take the shot off of me to put on him, which that wasn't a good idea because first of all, I came there with good intent. You know what I'm saying, Like, it's not about me, It's about Kane and Chris wasn't about me. So when he did what he did, he made it about him. I got sucker free closer lines. Right, I

came up there with a Gucci shirt. It was so much not about me that I wore a Goocy shirt I anywhere, something that I could have warred to the world for everybody to see what I'm saying. So I don't really like talking about this because I like blowing abody there. But he did. He put it out there at first. He did it first, so uh for him to do that, it was like, I'm not somebody you do that for. Listen, Brutch this you can take my career and take my talent and take all my abilities

put to the left. There's nothing doubt there that says kick appreciate it all people. There's nothing doubt there that says kicking pretty there bad basiness with people. There's nothing out there that says kicking people wrong people. So right there, you lose. I'm not the person you do that too. Whatever your attentions were, whatever you feel like you needed to do, I'm not the word you do that too, whatever your thoughts were. They're calling me world's greatest DJ.

They give me the attention I get. I do as many shows as I do. Whatever that is, that's something that God has placed it by life. That's stuff that's not nothing that somebody else can take away or beat. Because you get in front of a camera and feel like you're gonna shoot on me and this is your opportunity. So right there, you lose because of those facts. Because I have no smart or my name, you can't win.

And then if the ship on top of that, you know, when I get on that stage, my pressure is gonna be different. I don't get if you got sparks flying off your turn tables, I'll get what you do on stage. Kick pre hits that stage. It's gonna be an event, and that's worldwide. That's wherever I going. That's the true for that's God give it. That's not me bragging. That's

what it's been for years. There's no downtime. So I didn't understand why he took that opportunity to do that or that platform because it didn't work, and then you speak afterwards, there's nothing to really talk about. Instead of him saying to me, your kid, I apologize for what I did that was wrong. I should have did that. He go on the net and he puts the video out saying that the rob that I said was for Kane, which it wasn't. It was for you. What are you

talking about? You got the timelines mixed up. It was for you, said ROB, I said the robot. I stopped the rob because it wasn't about me. I didn't mess. Somebody started another. I stopped rob because it wasn't about me, and I said, you know what, and t about myself while I'm saying that it's not about your kids, to stop it. Stop. He said that it was about k what she wasn't Then he said kick it pre doesn't what DJ is the shine. That's why he takes DJs

on the road with him. Well listen to that, making DJ shot like taking this ship and kid do it. If I'm taking them on the road and pay them on his money and they're going to see the country and they're getting in front of these crowds they're making them shots because I didn't take you on the road with me. You don't need to go on the road me. You scratch, But why would you say that? You try

to put the navative out there like I should. Look, you could never ever question what I've done for the DJ business ever, nobody cared as far as you know what. You could never question what a different music period without did something for the way you make me feel. Mixed with the impeach the president, that changed the R and B game, that changed the all you now had to make rob all the artists have the big records over all B over a break beat records like Mary. Yeah,

that was like it changed the whole game. So you can't you can die for or what I did for the game. And on top of that, I stayed with my ear to the street. I stayed with my ear to everything that's going or that's why my album that's out right now side the way it does. Because I refused to be last. I've refused to let somebody tell me I'm less dead. But let me let me stop

for one second. What made you not want to react back like when he because I believe because what he was trying to do in my opinion, and I was I'm outside of looking it, and obviously he's like, you know, sucker, DJ. That was like what we used to say back in the days, like you know what I'm saying. But I know, like anybody who was new, I probably couldn't comprehend that. What made you want to keep your cool? And I say,

you know because I did. If you see my show at the beginning of the verses, you see I toured the ball plays shretch. You see that there's nothing to talk about. After that, I came to do it a side of it. D asked me to do it this side, and that's what I'm gonna do. It's not about me. It's about Caress and Chris, not about me. This is not the chance for me to put the shot on me. This is about me trying to help my dudes get what they deserve. That's where my attentions were. But I came.

I could have came there with something set up to go again, Scratch, was it about that? But you knew at one point that he was going to do that had before the show started. I came up to the stage and say, you Scratch, I love you. We don't see how the eye right now, But we got to get back to it. I walked away from no balancing my heart wrong. So when I went to my dress the room, somebody comes back to somebody comes about dressing when we say, your scratches garbage up there, like what

are you talking about? So I got to look at Scratch, and Scratches played all the records that he don't play the I play. He must have looked at what about shows something, and he's playing all the records that I played in the role. Then he played my better stretch record. Why would you do right? Why would you do that? Like? So right there I knew some suckers ship was going on. So I'm looking at um like damn, that's how you

do it, and the crowd is at the standstill. I said, okay, So I go on stage and nicked this place, and now he had to stand there and watch me. No, no, there was none of that ship was in my list of what we look like. That's why I was blocked out to me like why he was gonna block this? So I do understand what he was doing so they would not go on stage, and I like this ship and both of y'all warming up? Is he's all before me, and I said, let me go off versus first, let

me get anything crazy. He could come and have to do his trick ship doing ship making about the show. He didn't want to do that. He wanted to go first because he was he thought I was playing these records, so he thought he was gonna throw me off. What are those records of the list of what I was playing? But I seen the sucker ship, so that he did that. The crowd stared around looking at him, like yo, what

he's doing? And then I come up and they unite it, and then that he had to stay there and watch that. Then he had to stay there and watch how I was playing the music for Carerest Abong Tide of, he was playing the music for Kid Dead Caress kills him. Stay in your place, another man tells me to stay at my place. We're gonna fight or stage right right that the man that you back it up tells you, now we doing that. He ship saw you. Yeah, that was that was crazy. Kane was like, no, now he

ship saw a scratch like yo, right, what happened? Particular because everyone's watching this watch the verses, so let's say what happened was I forgot Scratch was gonna go in and do like a whole thing that was assuming was going at But Cain was like, Na, no, not even because you know Na, and this is the dude that you're backing up. Then they're adding something the injury. You disrespect the dude that's down with your camp and tell

the dude Drazz that's from Dias effects. Y'all. I know you ain't been on the stage in a long time. To get off the stage. Who are you to tell that man that that's Karrest and Chris of guests, Scratch said that Jazz, he said that the dazz look at the show, look at it. I know you ain't been on the stage in a long time, but who but get off the stay. I know you ain't been on the microphone a long time, and get off the stage.

Who are you to tell that man that this is a man that was down with your cat's effects man, that he made it so much about him that this is what he said to that man in front of the world. I don't even like talking about this. I don't even like when people ask me about it because it's not something that I want to get off. But y'all ask it, and this is what it was. This is what it is. We're gonna put the navative out the way it is and to control your old navative.

Let you know that now, like Games said the other day, control your own NATA it is. Don't let nobody. Don't let nobody think no kind of way about you because somebody said sort and trying to put some kind of display or you, or you get mad at somebody because they're bad at you. You are sucker if you mad at somebody because somebody else's mad at you, or feel some kind of way about you. You know what I'm saying. Like, but that's what it is. That he did that on

the world stage. He got caught up and being there at a reader and forgot those campuses in his face. And my thing was, why would you do that to be I'm not to do to do that to help people. You know, any time you need me, I'm there. I've been there for you, scratched many many times. I asked you to come be there for me. You haven't been there once to teach you the NPC. I asked you to teach you to come do my my internet show you never came once every time you asked me to

be there. I've been there, shout your ship on my radio show, Scratch Vision and all that. But you said you said something important earlier. You said that, um when you reached out to When Kane reached out to you, he asked me, well, what's what's going on with you and Scratch? Because I told Scratch I don't with k that Kane Helm After Kane asked me that. After I called came back and told me I was gonna do it with Chris, he called me back thirty sex seconds later.

He was like, Yo, what's going with your Scratch? I don't even know how. I don't remember how he knew. But then I told him. I was like, Yo, this is what happened. He was like, YO, do me a favorite man, you know, just let it go. I said, you know what, can shoot on me three times. Usually didn't get away with that one time, and that's it. I was like, you know what, k It's about y'all. It's about y'all. It's cool. Now, let's keep it very funky. How do I told Scratch or how I told k

that I was gonna do it? Scratch would have even been on the show. Care that's wouldn't have got him, So he wouldn't have been on the show. So for him to go on there and say that Rome I was going it was about Kate. It was like, come on, beat this your opportunity to take to try to shoot on me in front of the world. Really, why would you do that me? You would do that be on the phone every other day. But it shows you that you never know where it's gonna come from first, and

it's nothing new. I think a wa do the ship forever. I put out south ttrack to the Streets with J and Nas and this one, and DJs wouldn't play my records on the album or the record you was on the album. They would play my records on the radio because they don't want to see kick and pre getting no further. Kid got hard, Kick get big. And it's stupid because you DJ's, I'm saying this ship to you. Let me win a cab bat say to your cavil you DJs, you trip over playing there everybody's record that

don't give a shit about you. You ship over dudes that you you go crazy over playing this one's record of that where they don't even call to see if you're healthy, if you ate, if you're good anything. But somebody that's see your business that do the same thing that you do, is trying to get the same struggle go off the same way you are in the DJ. But as you won't support them, you won't play their music because you think it's taken away from you, You dumbass.

All of your dumbasses that think that way, All of you got something say see me. All of your dumbasses that think that way, smartened up. If I blow up, you blow up. If you open the door for me, you blow up, You open the door for yourself for the DJ to go and better. And that's what my whole ship always been. It always been that. So why don't you hate on the album soundtrack in the streets? Why don't you hate on anything I put out? You dumbass? Take it out? You take it now. You're right. They

you see that supporting themselves. If they're supporting the fellow DJ, they supporting things that they might do in the future. So now I did this album the love and regardless of it DJ played or nobody playing, my ship is dope. I sound better than a lot of you rappers. And I don't even do it. I don't even shot ready. I think it's tough for a SHOT's. I ain't gonna talking talking. Yeah, I literally still if Jay didn't stand up for taking a piss, I wasn't standing up to

take a fiss. Oh, I'm taking a piss and they're not taking a fiss. I had jay Z loose the other day. Right, he came to see me. The last party I did for Jay, I did his Oscar party. I never seen Ja the old Oscar party and they're like the gold one. Right, I've never seen him. He someone invited us. I've never seen him dance before. You know, I don't be invited this like that. You know, I've never seen him dance before. He danced for like a long time with Beyonce. He was dancing. It was crazy.

I've never seen that. To see that was bugged. I see Kanye pick you up to in the documentary. Yeah yeah yeah, put me the ball? What was the ball? Was the ball? He said something with kick a priest somebody and the kid. I don't know that was put me in the ball, but thank you shout a shout the Chiller Jones. He did do it, did it dope joint about joint, so right now, and I want you to be clear. What's your favorite party? The white boy parties where the girls rip out, Wednesdays show, the Tenny,

the black parties, old school parties, new school parties. If if God said, listen, you got one party to do to get to heaven. The party that has young and old together, everybody together. The party is that called whatever party that is my my my spring break because the old nigg is don't go to spring break no more. Well, you know, the thing is a lot of older people don't party with the younger people, and the younger people don't party with the older people. But then in my

parties would be like that. You'll see young and older together, they all have a good time. Because my whole thing always been a balance. And even if you listen to my radio shows called the black party, kick block party, a black party, you go to block party, right, Everybody is different, ages, the dress different, different, everybody, nobody's second grade. Everybody have a good time the same. And that's what

I'm bored. I wanted to say, Ballots, I played the new ship better than the young DJ, so I don't lose by it. Because I get older, I stay in it. Listen to my album to Love. You can tell it right there. You did it on your own. I did the whole album, produced the whole album, wrote the whole album, did dance no Bay Street artists to get on it. I got my daughter Viena Love, I got select reggae artists, and I got Lavelle r the artists. That's it. I

couldn't asked anybody to be about joy. I just stopped, Tom, I'm not saying on your own, no label? Well, I produced to that rot in, It's on my label when it's going through Empire. Okay, big up to So what made you want to do that? I did every day I could do with this DJ business, I did it all, you know what I'm saying. That's side in the quarmar tine and I watched a lot of suckers ship going on. Right, Dudes that was standing in front of the may back

before the quarantine talking about they getting money. Soon as the quarantine hit five days later, they begged for cash shops. Its about cash app you' said twenty hours about cast just talk about DJs. Yeah, I ain't gon find still a lot of cash apps a lot of cash, right, But but but will send me to Linkol and I just be like, yeah, that's the ship. But but but it's a difference for DJ a new light on club business.

Weren't surviving. Wa wait a minute, it's a difference when people want to send you money because you're working, pul pent up there working apposed and you turning around every five minutes asking for a cash. Your who could send me five dollars in my cash after two minutes? Yo, sets of my cash at it sound like we're begging. Sound exactly know, But here's my thing. The quartity happened five days ago. You're doing bad already. Don't try to get me with the bullshit. You do it bad already.

You're taking advantage of people in their misery. That's what you're doing that you tell first, you talking to So with that being said, I was on the I was on the net for three years. Never asked for a dollar. I made no Penny Sunday t shirts to sell the people and it sold out, and I never said them to him, never took their money because I felt guilty

taking money for people. That the reason why I did it was because promoters and fasts sell out my joy promoters had me come around the country, around the world and fast come and sell it out. I felt like, this is my way of giving something back. It's my give it to a free I say it plays is my way and giving something back to them, like yo, you know what I'm saying. So what I see not that they were getting money, because if you're burning electrics, did you work and people should want to pay you

and say, yo, here, yo, you're entertaining me. Yo. Let me say you some brad, that's dope. But the now we're the change when you turn around and people's businicy with yo, let me see you can send me fifty of my cash chapter and you you a d you call yourself in DJ This is something that took care of me my whole career. It makes us look like we're thirsty. Got promoters watching this ship promotos look at the pay these things what they would and we're begging

for buddy. So it looks crazy to me. And I stood on it. I said what I said, and at first people didn't understand it. So they got on my lives and they understood it. And I even talked about saying, is that that's rock and let's play music. We're supposed to be doing this ship, then let us do it because of the situation. But now you're over here asking for money, we're gonna get cut off. And that's exactly

what happened. It started getting cut off because if Marian Cabby looks at your ship is she said, they're playing my music over it, I be like, yeah, how long have you played it? Let's go back in the video tape, see how long it's been going on. Okay, yeah, and it cuts you off. That's what happened. I think what that to happen. I was off for three years or there, never had a problem. Yeah, because then they their pins and their pins just saying cash at or something like that.

It wasn't the pit. It was them saying that. It was like they were begging. Because he didn't do the cash. He didn't say it one time. He didn't say yo, said buddy, he put his pin up. That's it. And he was somebody like myself that could have got a big, big, big bag had he turned around and said yo, saibody about cash aft, regardless of it looked cheesy or not, he could have did that and blew up. He didn't have to do that. He didn't do it, you know

what I'm saying. So that was one of the things I was mad at Scratch act because Scratch when I put that post up, scratched one of my combat before. You say something about b D. Dice and that's and that's taking cash aft with your donsarsistic ways and whoop, the whoop, the whoop. I wasn't even to talking about y'all. I wasn't thinking about comment. And that's what Big Daddy came. He could have cured me, he said about comment, I

wasn't even talking about that. I'm talking about niggas. That wasn't DJs that was doing this ship, that was making the business that me and you scratched her in that makers look like we thirsty, like you supposed me on my side. Instead, you took this opportunity to put the attention on yourself and shipped on me because I'm standing on for something that's right. When you could have called me, I didn't understand that, Like, so that was my stats I've ever missed A c called me was like more

than that. He said, Yo, you're a thousand percent right at what you said. He said. But more than that, he said, I have a different way of looking at it. He said, these are the same dudes ever said it in front of a bay back talk about they get money as soon as the ship happened. They're begging for cash.

Ats that's where I got it from. That's in the exactly, And it made us look like we're thirsty, like like we It was nobody else doing, no actors, no nobody else, it was just the DJs, and they made us look like we're not doing good. These same guys asked me for this cash. That what they're entertaining on Instagram during Yeah, right, that's right there talking And it wasn't even doing nothing. They were just taking advantage of people's misery at the

time it was going on. And that's what I had a plot with And the only reason why I said something it had a plot with it because I was doing it before I got dead quarantine came up. I was doing for three years before the Quarvertine came two shows a week every week, never asked somebody for a DIB. So, yeah, we're in this situation. Yeah, I know you, but there's a classy way of doing days. If you need it. You're I'm gonna pit DJ and you see me playing, Come see me the ball if you like me. When

this ship opens up, happy, come do your wedding. Happy, Come do your That's a I see way of doing this. It's like it's a certain way to do what people take advantage of. Every somebody said, who could one day everybody saw smoking. You don't even know who get his? Sure you're they call a sea shot, I'm saying. So that's what I'm saying, Like, that's that's what my problem was. But I'm not I'm not a posed of people getting paid. Like if people want to send your buddy or whatever,

the hell yeah they should. You up there, burden electricity, you work it. Hell yeah they should. They should do it now if you were there doing it to take them, send money to them, let them work. But the way they would do it, it just made us look real cheesy. It made us look crazy, and I felt like I had to say something. So I thought Scratch would have my back. And with the other way, with the other way, I don't want cash back. We gotta take our cash the link off of our link tree. She got real,

she got real. H So have you ever liked um did a party. These people will just come out to you and want you to play what they want to hear. Yeah, and we usually drunk people be females. It usually be females that get drunk. Like one time, so there's someone in that check she was with a man and she's bagging on the side. I don't really be a boost. But it was a spot that only had a boothy with no space that to be set up back. But he bagged. She's bagging the booth. You'll play some Jamaican

music bagging the booth. What's the Jamaican No, So that's not the music like jaking music like Yo, you know crazes, which is like and that guy out, but also for the drink off for a man to drink, you know. But yeah, you go through that. Sometimes I don't really go through it because when you keep people occupied, they don't think to say that. It's when you're not doing your job. Somebody comes up and says, yo, can you play this and play that? Because they're they're boy. That

only happens when their board. That's why you got people keep everybody or they told you gotta keep everybody excited. At one time so this way they will never feel that they have to do that. They really have the right because if you work anyway, I'm not coming to your job and tell you how to do your job. So while you feel like you should come up and tell me how to do bobs or any other DJ that's what their job is to do. But in their mind,

they paid the cover fee, and that's paying your feet. Yeah, they think that you're the money actually band that they want to hear all the songs, but they also pay the cover free to a movie theater. They're not cover over there. Tell the guys when the show the movie's what I'm saying, like they do. Tell the police, I pay your motherfucking taxes. Well they should because a lot of police some do their job by doing a lot

of great police. But that's police. Where that got they asked with where they were yo, just like ts A dudes at the airport, they got the asked where they were Yo. The girl didn't find him attractive, and they're mad. They grew up mad, so they got a badge. They want to take that ship out on people that you know, you know, yeah, yeah you can see who that is. Yeah, but you can't confuse that with people interfering when the cops are doing their regular job and jumping into the mix. Yeah,

that's that's the crivalent enough going up to the DJ booth. Yeah, that's how I'm going comparing it to Yeah, both is wrong. Both is wrong. We're coming and saying, hey, man, I want to hear ain't no half stepping you like you in the middle chief keeping y'all niggas coming to you. I mean old nags come to you. Man. I wan't ain't know half stepping. You don't know which one it is which, Just stop and talk to someone that comes

to the Dgypt is a fucking vibe killer. But what if I know the DJ even worse, even worse than you know the DJ. Really see what people don't understand If I'm in a certain place, If a DJ is in a certain place and just doing a certain thing, you can't as a person that as a as a customer, come up to say, yo, let me stop, just let Joe do this. He may not be in that area, but she as a person who's not a DJ or

somebody that's not an entertainer, you're not thinking that. What you're just thinking about yourself not thinking about the bigger picture, which is burerk a day way, this is not this is I gotta satisfy all see that if people thought, see here's a day. People want the the end result. They don't care what happened before the end result, and that is I gotta deal with getting dressed, packing my clothes. I gotta deal with getting to the airport. I gotta

deal with possibly losing my stuff. I gotta deal with asshole tears say they feel like they want to be cops. I gotta deal with laten that' I gotta deal with losing my bag, right, I gotta deal with losing my bags. I gotta deal with getting there, and then I gotta deal with getting check in the hotel, getting something to eat, doing sound check, coming back to get dressed, all these different days before I do a party, to be in front of you. They don't care about. They don't know

none of that. They know it wasn't good at the party. That's all they care about. The same way it goes vice versa. Those people pay to get there in a car. If they don't have a car, they got a podcast or whatever. How they gotta get there. They get there, they pay to get in. They gotta buy clothes to look fly to be at the party. Once they get in, they gotta buy drinks. They do all this because you're in the building. How do you not give them the best? You give them? So it works both ways. You said

what I'm saying. The bottom line is the end result. People want to be entertained. It's your job to entertain them. They don't care about anything that happened before that, even though they partly should if they knew what you went through to go. You know shows, you know your dog, right, you know what your preparation was before you went to go hit that stage, right, and you do I'm a foul naker. Well I'm just going prep But I can

tell you this. I can tell you this whether there was fourteen people there or forty people there, if they had fun, I had fun. That's it. That's that's it. The whole preparation of everything that to make that happen. It's something that people don't care. They pay their ticket. It's the taby. If you're not good, I'm gonna get on the net and talk about how bad your ass was, even if it's your fault, bad equipment, bad sound bad. It's you stop the promoter. It's not the sound issue.

If you did wait, I paid my money for I'll be get at your ass. So imagine you with that, and you got two of the fifty shows every year, every year, you do this constantly and never get no bad reports. You say you got two shows. I was doing two of the fifty shows, and we're down to two hundred. And I talked about badager of Christie Clifford, which is incredible bnager. I told her, we have to, we have to, we have to slow down. I just

want to do weekends. I can't do all these dates that I'll cover that be At one point shows with me Nick was that because the leaves with me. And then down here Bammy. I started doing CABBYO and I got me a crib. I bought a loose when you perform that loose Luke, I was doing loops, I like three. When I started doing Cabrio, I bought a crib down. I got a crib down here twelve for college. I had the cript for died years. At that time. We still going on. But you know, being on the road

that much, yo, I had to carve it down. I was like yo, let me, I gotta just do the weekends now because it was just too much. It was too much, and I wanted to do one thing. So when the pandemic happened, I got a chance to. Because I've been on the road from eight to the pandemic. If I took off two months within that time tributated together, that's a long time I've been on the road fever, So when a pandemic happened, I had a chance to sit down and focus on other ship. I had other

things that I wanted to do right. So that's how I did the Top of the Love. I did four other to three other albums besides that, the album called Top Tire. Before this, I started album like four years ago with all the battered rappers. I never put it out because music kind of changed. I said, you know what, let me just hold off for that and get back to it. So when I did this album, I went back to the Top TiO album. While I was doing this album, every re updated the Top TiO album. So

I did that. I did an album with a group call the Hoodies. You might see the Hoodies on the net, do what they think? I just finished the album warn them, produced a joy. I got an artist called Food so they had done an album, or myself. So I did four albums. I did two Car Tools or one of the car whether the characters are the Proud family Car Tool that's coming back out. And then I did my old car Tool. I did a movie call Mr. Every Other or be I'm not a five sit done all that.

I opened up my Cold a Sucker Free, and we opened up East Coast Capital Realty. I did all this in the pandemic. All this was done to the pandemic. So Jazz she has East Coast Capital Um and we did all this in the pandemic. So when the album came out, it was because you could. It was because I needed something else. I needed it just the time to sit down and focus. That's why the album sat the way it doesn't, because I had a chance to

sit down and realized what I was doing. Beard on the voter was I even lost forty pounds because being on the road, even if you exercise every that, you still eat that show, so you don't get a chance to catch up on yourself. I lost forty pounds in a pen duck. So as much as it was a bad thing for a lot of people. It was pretty good for me because of these reasons. You know, I got a chance to get it off if somebody needed to a lot of people needed to be still for

a second. That's what the pandemic need to sit down. So when this kicking pretty book coming out, I've been I've been working on the movie. We the movie is cinematic. Wait till you see this ship. It looked incredible. It's gonna be the movie first, So probably do the book after, and the excused to do it first. Let go, that's fine, Always do this a little Yeah, that's fine. So the movie first, to Rad Malcolm Ship. Then I was like, all, yeah, yeah,

it don't have it's a rude to production. That's true in the book. That's not in the movie exactly because of the movie. Even when like like you take like you take a any movie you take James Brown movie Get All Up, Big Jagga, Big Jagger did Get On Up. But he also did the documentary which is Mr Dynamite, right things to the Mr Dynamite Get On Up. Because Get On Up you already have a certain amount of

time to tell a story. You don't have a lot of time in the movie so a lot of things get left out, a lot of things get cut off. That's why documentary is so important. That that's why people love documentary so much. Unsung it all these things because it tells. It tells the rise of the fall, you know what I'm saying. And that's why it's so dope.

So we're just documented I did. It's called Mr. Every Ever and every era this to every Ever like Mr. Everything, but every every ever last name Mr So, Mr. Every Other shows a lot of stuff that when we brought it so certain Compley doesn't want to say today is what we brought a certain companies they say, your your story is too long kid to do a movie, so we need to do six parts. So that's what we're doing right now. It's a six part documentary. Well it's

been well we put it together. We're gonna put it down as six parts because the story is too long about it's too long, it's too much states to talk about, and it needs not it needs to be that yeah, yeah, yeah, you work when right carry too right. I didn't work with I did uh really cool, but I would say the first person as the part I canna tell you what I did party with the first party Barta Stewart,

but I did bother Stewart first party. First, her first part, first your first part, first hip hop project Bob is two. And the party is just when she came home or this is before she went. This was she because that she came that's crazy and she comes home. I think she came home first. I did a party of Trump's house. Okay, this is this is pre ratio Donald Trump president of the Trump's house before he just before he became. Yeah, yeah, before me came on that. I did probably drudge Trump's house.

I did Eddie Burfie. I did find let's let's stay on Trump House. Okay, were Trump House at Florida? That should like you need a helicopter getting at Jeffrey? Is that Jeffrey a little right now? Alan, You're right, I definitely I didn't mean to stay like that, but hey, alright, so you went down on the Trump House. I wasn't looking at all, right, crazy, you look like you need a matter of fact, the room that we was in, everything was solid gold pitches, folks, dis ship he was

president before it was just before the president. He's still us venus wo. Yeah, it was pretty big. Asked me how much did Trump pay? But I don't want I would have it would have been flaving us that he didn't pay. No trump pants line, don't got the whole country. Trump paid the whole country and make somebody else. But you don't got the p PB loans. You think that you think this war would have happen if Trump was still in off? Why? Why why would you do? I

don't think. I don't think our side had anything to do, like we wouldn't have controlled what you think he was stopped. I don't. This is what you're saying, and it's some real holy ship thinking like yeo, man, let me don't got no army no more. Let's just gonna But that sounds like some street ship though, like, don't you're talking about puting thinking that? Yeah, like who were like fading really lit like that? No more? I'm just gonna take

over this ship. What's what's not arting about that? You know? You know he only said I street about that. I'm not a fan of Trump, to be honest with you, But the only reason I would say that maybe it would have been a thought not to do it is because Trump was so wild that maybe poom be like yeah, I don't know this guy. We can't predict what this guy's getting. Nobody wild and this motherfucker's I might as well not do it right, Yeah, because Trump will say

crazy ship like he talk keep talking North Korea. You know we're gonna burn your ship down. At least. Trump came outside every day like Biden and were he he needs to He didn't, Man, he needs to talk. Listen. I'm not a fan of neither, but I said what a fan neither either. I tell you one thing Trump came outside about. Trump was talking a little crazy bro. I can't take it, came out. I try to take

the way the Trump talking about I think COVID. He's like, I got COVID taking his mask off, Like what did you do with the microphones? Was the President like urged you streaking COVID into the microphone. That's how you know he would look. But Trump is crazy. I think he picked up Poot and he's like, yo, shout him out for what he's just doing. Right. No, no, not for what he's doing right now. Picked up for what he's doing right. Trump said, he picked him up. He said

something like, I respect it. He said something like that, I respect him for it. This is politically we never really talked about right before. I don't know if we get out of here or not, but I want to talk about your history of Big Um. Was it strictly because of Columbia records? Was it? Was it the Harlem connector Big I was cool, you know, it was cool with d T. So yeah, And they asked me to just do put it on back and there I was

just doing that. But I used to go down and don't see Big out just all random just hang out down there. I used to tell Big I was like, you're big you you You're about to be something. Man. I was like, yo, you know what I understand. You got your boys, you love your boys out here and every day, but you gotta stay off the street corner, man. You gotta still he was doing. He used to be outside all the time. Actually just drive out and just hang out with him. That's tithing, like you're you know

before the records that you use on the record. This well this is after he put it on, sounding like you know, like you just just you know what I'm saying, like just trying to be low, like know what I'm saying, like just stay out the way. Like you know what's going and do your records, just do your stuff. But you know, l was so cool. It was just soo like if you listen to the way he robed when you met him, it was a total opposite the way he robbed. He robbed like like he'll chop your head off.

But when he was just sucked subtle cool dude, like just a little fly, little dude. Like it wasn't like it was, it wasn't nowhere. It's like it was just cool. So I used to tell him like dogs, like I know this is your boys. Everybody's cool way. You know, I know all that, but like trying to be at the house, right do you shoot? Stay out the way? You know what I'm saying, like, just try to stay out the way. And unfortunately what happened happened, man, I mean,

wasn't his fault, you know it. Uh, you know it's a big loss, man, because I wanted to see how far he was would have been crazy, he'd been crazy, you know, U sounfortunate. But he was one of the he was one of the dope dudes. Definitely, you met Big in Tupaca, right, absolutely a matter of fact. You see this did you see this. No, we sent it to us, straight to you right now. We'll be in big right there. Hugged each other. Why I never must

have interacted a lot. Yeah, I mean he immortalized me big a piece of r G. Brucey Bee kicking proven many hemmortalized me. So but you know, Big was cool man, solid dude man like I remember did the show with him in Detroit and a matter of fact, was the players outside, Yeah it was. It was a little different. It was a little different. Was the back in the backstage and he had a car then way they the way they set it up, it was a car that drives to the to the it's addressable. So I went

back there I seen him. It was like you're bigger. So it was like I got some music that you might want to hear whatever. It was like you got some shoot shot. It was like, yeah, that's some ship. He went on stage. When he went on stage, I remember hearing this roar. It was like it was like I never heard a roar like that from crowd. He was that big man. When I do hit the stage, it was mangle time. So it was unfortunately lost someone.

As long as earlier we did as we did, but you know he was so powerful as legacy on their fever. How about then, I know I know Pop. Every time I seen Pop. I remember one time being I was a l I was a crush show. I was at some restaurant, was like three o'clock in the morning. I went to some restaurant with with UH people and Pop was sitting in the restaurant with some dude nobody else in the restaurant, and I hugged him and he had

a bulletproof vessel on. Then I seen him in New York at this seminar that they had it that it was forgot to them in the seminar, but it was at the New York Hilton Hotel, and I've seen him near hugged him neck. He had a bulletproof vessel on. Every time I said, I seen him on hundred twenty fish three. One time me and Bess was together, we took this picture all of us hugged him. He had a bulletproo vessel and it was like he was kind of like knew that he was gonna die, you know

what I'm saying. And um, that was unfortunately too man, because you know, if I think I think if he would have been here. He probably would have started to school or something, have been somewhere over there. Both of them would have been around, both of them what they would have done again, absolutely absolutely so yeah, definitely that was a big loss in hip hop for sure. How about Prince this kick if we have a print story, absolutely, Oh my god, Prince came to Prince came to the Key.

I did a party downtown in Manhattan called the Key Prince this Game. I'm sorry not to keep club the Sky Club and Prince comes in. Was he flow in? Watch this? He sits with me, He sits in the booth with me for two hours. I put another DJ on the plate, me and Princess. You will forget that. He will have his ass out. It was his ass super super super cool, like you totally forget because he's pressed, like solid and nice with the basketball, crazy with the ball,

super crazy with the ball. Woman play itself like a real NBA motherfucker, like really nice like that. Yo. He sat there with me for two hours, bro, and we just talked about all kinds of ship. Then he had me come to his club. When he did preparate that the club, he had a minute in Minneapolis I did it twice for him. Did that joint When I tell you, man, you totally forget these prints. Like I'm talking, he had. He had these pigtails on his head like this, like

these big gass braids in his head. Sitting at the club. We sat there for two hours and I did a little set where I played all his ship back to back, play the ship back to back. And he was like, yo, I never heard of DJ played my ship like that. And this is I was talking like some of the dudes that you see that we grew up on on television and we looked at we look at him in a certain way. But they ain't really real people. They

just people like us. They're do different know what I'm saying, Like Rod Ozley, I'm sitting role sitting together ones that we did a boat rider. Uh this just uh this the truths for seven days me Rosey got bad the cad Douggy like a whole bunch of people do with this ship. The whole bunch of people. And I said, I said, our green was on age, right. He had

his white dope suit over this rough shirt. You know, I mean, Rosy sitting next to each other already loaded, so I said, said all the husband, I said, Yo, you're like I agree. It was like, yeah, like, I'll agree. What the funking got on? You know, he was shipping on his clothes and he's saying this while he got a shade on jeans on bleother jacket, hat backwards baseball cap, sitting there like me. That's what I'm saying, Like, we see people a certain kind of way, but they'd be different.

Whitny Houston, Houston, shout the whit they Houston. We see a certain kind of way. It was a different way that that that docks a down or anything like that or anything like. But you know, people, people are people. We are people. We are no better than nobody else. Just because you have a startup job where you're iditate, it doesn't make you better than anybody else. You just have a different job. That's why when people embody this, I hate it. I said this over the records a

new record I did. I hate a little rapper that walks around like a little rapper all day bufuck. I don't know how to turn it off. I'm not kicking pre what I wake up, I'm David Love and then I'm kicking pre what. I need to turn it off. That's an ill DJ name. Don't too David Manny, people said the New yor kid while you recall yourself D Love DJ D Love because at the time you made up a Dame grandmass a flash, wasn't gonna call it

something Jose and shose some Sallah. You say you made up a day to be bigger, So that's what it was. But yeah, that was I could have been D Love or whatever I'm saying, but that's how I am. I'm not that I'm not kicking pre when I wake up and up that all day, I don't know. I know to turn it off, and I turned it over the need to be. But there's some dudes that the body this ship all day and they think that they're doing

people a favor. You're not doing nobody a favor. People are doing your favorite and when they cut them lights off, you're gonna really see when you are too busy to sign an autograph for somebody all of a sudden, YouTube busy due busy to a drop for a DJ or anybody that needs to drop. You would have you would have loved for people to ask you for that before you got so now you are you're too busy for that.

You feel like you're too big for that. You ain't ship that before, be too big and then and then fall off again. You see DJs do that before. I've seen DJs a thetainers and people that's just business be very unhumble. First they humble, they get on, they're very unhumbled, and then they fall off and they're more humble than it was before it was before they started. I've seen it over and over again, because people come and go,

you know, the business coming go. That's why you gotta you have to understand that there's always somebody that's more talent to you. Listen, Michael Jordan was Michael Jordan's, but you don't think there was a Michael Jordans somewhere else in the world that was nice that nobody knew about. He just didn't have the accolades. He didn't have it that was known. There's always gonna be somebody that's good

or better than you. That's why you have to appreciate shape the position you with people would break down all to be in a position to me yourself and yourself. Is it right? Now? You know how many entertainers that y'all have a call yet that would love to be in this seat to tell that story and dream champs. You see what I'm saying, that's that's a that's a privilege. How do you how do you how do you knock that? How do you act like that's not a great thing

for yourself? And how do you treat people less than because you're in that position. You was not busy before, but now you're too busy to speak to people inside autographs that you know it goes head to head. This is a business that we in and in order for you to be made and stay as long as I have, I've been it's been this hot thirty years, never had no downtow. You know what I'm saying, I'm a testament of it. In order to stay like that, you have

to treat people fairly. You're not better than nobody. You just have a different job, that's all. And people have to understand that. Treat everybody with the same respect that's it demanded and give it. That's it, no more, no, no, no less, and and and and that's what makes you stay. That's what made people respect you. And even if you fell off, people that was there when you was on will always have your back. They will always make sure they got you because they see how you treated people

all the way up. You look, it's not made for everybody. The last long I'm saying, nobody will ever last. Everything hasn't ended. Everything hasn't ended. But if you're able to stay as long as you have, know that that's a blessing. Though that there's somebody that wasn't able to do that and you was. So with that being said, treat it fairly, treated with respect, don't don't you know certain days I just see people do I'll be looking on the that I'll be looking at that ship like you don't do

you don't know, like you look stupid. Don't know that you play yourself, you don't look Come on, bib, it's just so you gotta if you wake up in the morning, you look at the mirror, you you gotta know how you look. You look. You know, you gotta carry yourself a certain way and that that's just I just see stuff that was like damn, but you know you can't. You can't you responsible. Had everybody moved you ever got corner in the East West Coast, West Coast, in the

middle of the East Coast, West Coast peace. Let's keep in mind when the ship thing happened on the source, I was an announcer. I was announcing on the television, so I'm sitting in the fifth row when it happened. The energy in the room felt like anything was gonna happened at any time. When our cast came out and they got boomed, it wasn't because our cast wasn't good. It was the bad day that was going on at the moment in the middle of the East Coast, West

Coast beef. I was going back and forth to California out there like it was not for like, I never had an issue. I was doing parties with Crips and Bluffs and Mesican Games, and I did one party with Christal Bluffs and mess Gate. They had this warehouse and like some ship was gonna jump off at any time, but because of be keeping them occupied so much. That sounds amazing though in a warehouse. Chris blufs in the Mexicans that it was right in the middle of Hussans

in Beach, California. And you know, beefs happened in parties when people are not occupied with people standing there and they grew with each other. They got chance to look at each other stok at all that. If you keeping people out compella, you making people feel good. You can step with somebody's foot. They'd be like, oh, they're gonna way, we're are. But if they standing there, they have chance to get into ship. I fortunately don't have problems at

my parties. I would have shootouts. How have gun fights? I'm gonna have no kind of fights at my joint. Everybody is always having a good time, no better where I'm back. And the one they got very proud of is if they put a phone up, they put it up to see me for a minute, and that pholt is down. They having a good time. It's not stand on the phone looking cute the phone? Who started that ship? Who started this ship? Who started this in the mirror

looking cute? That dawsonsistic ship. I just get it. And I would say this to the chicks. Chicks, if you're bad already, you don't need that attention. You don't need to put extra ship on it. You're bad already. Let us let us push you up. You ain't gonna put yourself up through the picture up there, we see that's it. All that extra looking at the bever Darson sister. It looks stupid to me. I'm gonna be very honest with you. That was a dump off. Let's go back on and

you've been knocking down ship for a long time. Question did you finish the thought about in the midst of the East Coast West Coast so like in the middle of the East Coast West Coast beef, I'm going back and still go to the west still probably the only one. Let me just tell you something straight up. Definitely an it was so bad at one point, and I think after I got WHOA, I'm just doing something with that.

And as soon as I landed in l A that had security for me, like they're like three, Like that's how bad it was, Like you couldn't even tell them. I would tell you why. I think why I was sold. When you say you he was doing in the West Coast. This is before Big pass after this is during the middle of the v It's in the middle of the beef, And I think the reason why I was sold I didn't catch any issues or any plots because I was always supporting the West Coast. I was the first to

play let me let me go here. I was the first to play Ghetto Boys by playing tricks on me on radio. That's why the very first award that I ever got was for the Ghett Boys was the Biolay Tricks. That was my first award before any ward. I was because I made that hot Hot in New York. Say they were outcasts. I made Southern Catia playing list in Cadillac Music Hot New York before I played on radio, Before any party played there was never played these records,

what I'm saying. So I built up with West Coast. I was playing at w A and I'm not the reason for it blowing up to New York, but I was so indulged in being in the West Coast parties and doing parties out there. Def Comedy Ja was out there. It was just going crazy. It was just really big. So I caught a lot of respect in the West Coast because of the work I was putting there before the beef happened. You see, I'm saying, so where the

beef happened there, I've never had that issue. I would be in the worst, deadliest places and everything would work out good because I respect everybody. I respect everybody. It doesn't matter where you come. For me. Where you at. You know, nobody's better than nobody. Yeah, we started hip hop and we was the first once we were, you know. But I told cool Hurt, you know her, what do you think her? I told her, what do you think

it's gonna stay in the box. It's never gonna stay The bob was so big, it's gonna go out the world like and that's what it is. And that's it. You have to treat everybody with the same about the respect. But okay, I asked this to other people on the show, and from your viewpoint, did you think that the beef was East Coast first West Coast. It wasn't crew versus crew.

It was it was one person against one person. And because this these two people have so much of influence on both coasts, the coast got involved too many people on each side of It was just the coast guy. It wasn't a coast against coast. It was I got I got Biggs back, I got Pops back. That was so it was that it was not It wasn't a thing where East Coast hated the West coast me of course that at the West Coast hated. It wasn't that it was pockets repper to eat its repper to West.

All right, Well I got his back, period, that's it, And that's loyalty. That's what loyalty is. You got somebody's back that represents you can't be bad at that. But where the problem business that it became deadly. It became deadly. This was supposed to be a pocket, big diet. This is music. We're gonna die for music. It's supposed to be something that bring joy to our life and bring money to our pocket and may bring joy the other body. Everybody's let me take the ship a little too serious.

That's why with all this game, ship coming into it in the music and all that, that's not for the music. Bro. We're watched all these people die. Really but like this is music kids, it's kids. They don't see their future. A lot of people I feel like they're gonna live past five Definitely, they're gonna past certain times. So they do shirt and ship to try to get as much in before they go where they think. You know what

I'm saying. But it's not like that man, you know, and that lotal life to live with a lot of ship to do me for your cup up? You know what I mean? Absolutely black excellence. Absolutely you know, got done. Holy moly, kind of holding myself man, shots shot there you go, and I'm holding myself pretty good? Is I don't? Keep in mind? Yeah, I'm proud of you. Do you don't. Let's take it to track master days now you what

you done with track? My sisters a producer. No, what happened was I was signed to Columbia, not the track. They didn't have a deal yet when I got I signed. I was signed to Columbia and I did the first album, the A and R. At that time lost my dad tape to the album the Master that so I told him, fuck, y'all, I'm not doing the while when you lose my fucking dad. Really, So, for five years I was signed to Columbia. I was already hot, sizzling doing what I'm doing. I didn't need

no record. So for five years they helped I was there and didn't do nothing. They just helped me sign. So then one day they called me and said, yo, we just put track passes with Columbia. We want to put track masses with you to do your album being in our new tone and poke. I was like, you know, I know them like cool and we end up doing the album. I produced all the ship track bassars that they did. They did the Foxy Brown record with the Locks,

and they did the remix to the Unity record. Everything else I did. Norvy came. We did the album that day. Norvey came. Pun It was crazy, puned. He came to the studio. I was recording the Lords Boys, and I took the Lords Boys out of the studio. I put Punt in. Punt came there with his wife and his kids. He pulled a cheer up, sat in the chair, did one verse, did when at but without the booth for fifteen minutes. He had all those people. He had his wife and his kids sitting around him while he was

doing his verse. He was out the booth. That's the record. You meet him and meet him on that record and um, and that's how that happened. As it fantastic. It was crazy that story visors Remy Mars recollection and your recollection of Punt having his family around him. Yeah, that Punt want no joke when he came to that. Yeah. So what's your favorite thing right now? Is it making the music or performing the music or playing the music? Yours

is a three part question. Making the music, performing the music or playing I love it all man one if I could pick what playing the music, but I like I love making the music. I love you know righting. I love being able to see people dancing to my ship. If I played in the club, or if somebody playing in the car. If it's just like I walked to here, y'all was playing the apple over here. That makes me feel like, dad, kid, you really did good. You did

your ship. But let me ask you why you stay playing the music, because I remember when he plays the music, he also performs it right with him. It's been times like I've been having shows and like polling or something like that, or you know, Doozo Dolf Germany or something, and I will go there at six o'clock. You know, even though the doors over the nine. This is a regular ship like out here, and I'll go to that clock and see people there. All right, you're gonna try

to shut down. So is it like that when you when you when you DJ and where you're sitting there and you do you walk into clubs? And do you do you in my backstage when I'm in my dressing mood, my thing is gym. How's the crowd of your carback is like this, like that if you put any crowding for the beat brushes. Here's here's a deal to say people that the fifty thousand that I might be in front of, if fifty people came, they're gonna get the same energy is a fifty. It's no different, he said.

I'm saying especially, it's no different. That energy is always gonna be what it's going to be. Right, But there's even it goes even further than that. Promona may called me and do everything that I expected to doing my on my riding, right, and there's something like grade happens where only fifty people may come. All right, I'll turn that promoter. You'll go set up something, come to do it for free, ex up another jokey, I'm gonna come

do it for free. Where the other artists who say yo's at the guard, they gotta do with me, get my money. I'm out. That's promoter would say, your kid got me with with I'm down kid, They're gonna kick me further. You're gonna make sharp good so that he has we cut back six more times that year. Fine, right, but yeah, because things can happen, you don't want to just take buddy. For promoters, you want to make sure

that they're good, you know what I'm saying. And a lot of times sometimes we just get into old ship some promoters because there's some Jakie promotas out there. But you shouldn't be dealing with Jackie promoters. Is up to you to cricket to separate you from mainly Jenki permot exactly, and only that you need to know your worth and that promoters out here okay. And you you stop after that point, you then lose. They lose. I gotta take this ship, but I know he's a ship on somebody

that you know it's going to bring the money. Always did a great great business, always does his job. It's the wrong thing because people think short term. I always thought long term. That's why I was able to stay thirty something years heavy no downtop because I think long term. I don't think the short. So a lot of times say short we kill yourself, And a lot of promoters do that. They they want to get the quick money and and cut corners in New Orleans. If you're not

ready to be a promoter, don't be one. It's as simple as that. The promoter is very hard. It's hard, That's what I'm saying. If you got ready for it, don't do That's why I never did it myself around the country as they popular and they got cloud in the city that they could just promote a party and then the crazy ship is your homies is not enough because you think you're gonna write your homies and your home your funny ship when the promote this trying to

be bigger than the artists on the flyer. Why are you putting yourself big on the flyer? Why are you making yourself like a real promoter? I said this on the EBO show. The real Promotera does real business. He puts his name small on there. He's a production and he makes the flyer the way it's supposed to be. Now it's about you and everybody else is but litterally you what do you try to do? You want to be a star. You're not talented, and this is where

your this is how you get your attention. Like, that's not that's not the way that it's I don't joine with Lee. He wants Mr Lee's OFFICI know what I'm saying, like, and that's what I'm saying like, you have certain promoters that really want to do the business, and they have certain promoters that want to be in it for the wrong reasons, just like you have entertainments that would it be in it for the wrong reasons. They want to be with the bitches. They want to be cute. I'm

not gonna say bitches women. I don't really call up with provisions, but they they want to be with the cute ship they see, but they don't see the hard work that goes into it. And that's where you test who's who. That's when you see who's who. If they willing to sustain, if they able to sustain what they've been doing for a certain long time, certain boy the time, and be comfortable with it and be willing to deal with the downfalls as well as the ups. You know,

it's this business is a cutthrow business. A lot of people are shitty at this business. You know what I'm saying that. You know, that's why I don't ask somebody for nothing. Listen to my album. I could have asked anybody to be on my album. I could have asked

any man. You know, they would have heard a quarter of my album and say yeah, kid, hell yeah, because that's one of the very first things is when they see DJ DJ and then kicking pre but DJ, they always think it's gonna be features, it's gonna be it's gonna be a future thing, compilation. This is serious. This is serious, and it makes rappers that have been during this for long years say, yeah, this is like a kid serious. Stop it's not no joke. To stop, no

playing that. I'm not my pizza crazy. The bars is crazy. Everything is crazy. I asked no help. I asked for my daughter la vela RV artist, and Mr y Mr lexta reggae artists to bild it. And that's it, and I see joy. I'm pretty good. All right, that's been killing. So we've conquered it all we've done. We've conquered death, comedy, jam, We've done you know, movies, TV shows, we've you know, scored, worked with with Donna, jay Z, jay Z met everybody, everybody,

what the fund could be next for you? Well, I'm always trying to create opportunities for other people. So I did this album hopefully. You know, first of all, we say this, I don't have no machine behind me. I'm putting I'm independent. I put it out myself. I'm depending on the music being as good enough to carry. We're doing what we do to make it happen. But you know, like I said, and that's the artists, to be honest. So it's this this thing I just want to I

just felt like doing. But at the same time, I have other people that I'm working with and trying to uh create opportunities for them, and that's been that's always been my thing. So with that being said, Sucker Freed, the and the Real Estate, the new albums I got coming to new stuff. I'm always gonna keep moving to keep going. I don't know what I'm want to end up with later because I'm nowhere near done. You know

what I'm saying. Like some people being as been as ten years and they've done, I've been here thirty some years and moving and in my ear is still as sharp as it ever been. You know what I'm saying. You can hear it in the Love album. So I'm just gonna keep doing what I'm doing and create in and and just keep creating opportunities and just doing things and making sure that that they know that I'm not just one thing. You know what I'm saying I'm not

just one thing. I'm a trip with threat And at the end of the day, that's what it's about being able to um, not that nobody stop you from just being what you want to be. You do what you want to do, you know, and UM, it's been fortunate for me. I got God in my life. I expect, I expect my faith, and I appreciate the spirit. And that's first that that's what brings everything to to home, because without that, none of this is possible. So that's why I look at first and then everything else. So

I'm just gonna keep it going. And what they next thing is who knows. I mean, right now I have the album out, so the movie is coming and all this other stuff, But right now, I just want people to hear this album. I want people to listen to it from the beginning to end the fielding and understand that it's not just a record that got two records on it. A lot of times we get caught up in we're gonna have our one two records, help us surprise, help us to carry us. Now, we got a body

of work here. So love album. It's something that you'll should hear well really quick. What what would be your advice to someone just getting started in this industry in terms of longevity, because not everybody's gonna have the longety nobody, I don't know. There's not many people can say they have the longevity you have. You gotta be you gotta be a leader, the leader. Don't be a follower. Don't be a trend a trendy dude, set the trend. Don't

be for the time, be timeless. You know. And even when you when you've been in in a business as long as I have, you're gonna have some downtime too. It's gonna be sometimes where things look like it's getting a little shaky. The testament is how you keep it going. It's the testament is how you bounce back and keep moving. You gotta keep in mind. My influence made DJ's talking to Mike. My influence made DJ's play records quick look

a certain way. As to that you're just looking like somebody behind, somebody looking at homely, now you look like a star kicking pre did that? You know what I'm saying, Let's not let's not get it twisted in no kind of way. People would do things and make it started to make you think it started with them, right, I'm not here to sit there putting your face what I did and all that. I'm here to show you what

the real is. But at the same time, with the DJ business have been the way it been, had I not done what I did, you got a question that would there be a chalid would there be a clue? Would there be these different people that done what they did after the fact. Had I not done what I did with the bit with the business, you know, shout

to all of them. They all did great. But it started with me saying, let me sit on that street corner and sell these mixed tapes, no matter how anybody look at me, no matter how anybody for I had girls driving by and cars fly, chicks laughing at me because I'm sitting on the street corner some of the tapes like I'm so listening. I put fourteen gold chains on my neck just to look like I'm doing good straight up, because you're doing good, but they don't think

you're doing You gotta actually show you doing. I gotta show I'm gonna good, so I throw the four cheene James, I sit a certain with you know, and I'm thir old Son dudes ain't gonna try me, like you know, and they all know how to play. So that was another thing. But more than that, you know, chick see see that, it was like it was like a game. Like it was funny. All right, y'all gonna laughed. Now, watch what happened That following year. I was on television.

That following you had an album. That following year I was on the radio. Everything was bad because I took my pride and swallowed it and said, you know what, I'm not too big to sit on the street corner and trying to keep it pop. Well, a lot of dudes and think they're too big to do certain things, and Nabby, I'll do it this way and it's gonna made me move. And that's what made me do every day. From there, I went to death comedy jam, comedians that

nobody knew. We took those comedians. I went back to the beginning to those comedians. We made them big. Bernie mac all these dudes got became big. Game of platform came back to the Internet. I was sitting on the Internet, playing on Peple Scope. I had thirty people on there, you looking at me saying, you know this legend got thirty people on this and it fell off. B No, my mind set was I'm gonna go back to the mixtape sitting on the street corner when nobody knew me,

and then make it grow. You know what I'm saying, And that's how I went because I'm not scared to go back to the beginning. You know what I'm saying, And that's how you stayed not it's scared to build again, to start over, you know what I'm saying, And that's how you stay relevant when you don't do the same thing all the time, you were able to do other things. That's why I'm doing this album, producing it right in it come on as good as it is. Like, we

can't front on it. You can say whatever. I don't care how old you are, young you are. You cannot say that love album is not Hessen. There's no way you can't say the album is hot. So at the end of the day, when you listen to you know, I stay in it. So that's what it's about, man, Just so taking care of your customers and just loving what you do. Man, I feel like that's figure sex. The motherfucker feelings that the Holy molycame only you got

anything else, let's go, man. But like this is let me pue your champagne glass up though, come on, man, motherfucker, all of us brothers, it's the last. I don't know if this is a question. It might be more of a statement. Kicking pre tapes and I know I've said this to you maybe off the record, and maybe that's kind of corny. Should have said this to you on the record. At one point I used to wake up and get a kicking pre tap as if that was

me getting fly. Somebody said that to me like that was a part of my outfit right, and did not

have a kicking pre take to go with it. I know this just makes sense to nobody as young know what I'm saying, Like I had to have by a number seventeen to be like yeah, yeah, yeah, I didn't have a tape to go with it, like you were kind of like because it's like like and we didn't have cars back there, so like I said earlier, we would do O J's, the National Calves, the Experienced Calves and Queen's Bridge, and what we would do is we would get in and we fly. But you gotta have

fire your seventeen. You got a certain tape to make you feel the same way. And and and my earliest, beautifulest memory of going up towns has always been kicking pre tapes. And I just want you to know, like, if you listen to the record I did with jay Z, that the one I want to grant me for us like that, right, if you listen to it, if you listen, but if you listen, like if you're listen to this like that, that's what I was doing mix tape ship on that on the record. Put your hands up, Yeah,

you know what saying? This kid could bringing jay Z. It's it's it was the same. It was a mixtape party field. That's what I was on at the time. But that record wasn't supposed to be in that beat. When I did the record with Jay it was a different beat. It was something different. And were walking past he was walking past the studio. If the luke that I had that we did. I had that record for like five years point in New Orleans, but I never could get it the loop straight in the in the machine.

So I had a loop on the tape just to listen to it. He was walking past the stick the studio. He heard me playing it in the studio. He said, Yo, what's that I said with something that I just had looke. He was like, Yo, we need to do that. And that's five years I had this record. I couldn't get it fixed in five minutes after he said, I had to get finished right And yeah, I want to say

something real quick. And I'm gonna say this reiterating the last time you were here, but in case someone didn't watch the episode, in case you don't remember, I've always said that your your career inspired me. Your tapes would inspired me to make mix tapes. I made my chops making mix tapes. If I didn't make mix tapes, I wouldn't be here right now. And you on Deaf Comedy Jam inspired the funk out of me to the point where Deaf Comedy Jam came to Miami at James L.

Knight Center. Did everybody after the show, the comedians and Kick Capri stood out Fay to meet I stood in lying to meet Kick Caprit. So I want to thank you, brother, and I'm gonna tell you that I know it's not just me. You inspire so many motherfucking people out there. Thank you to appreciate you. Almost cab money and gas money I spent on your Okay, this is it, man, good man, Thank you so much, man for being who you are. Man. This is your platform always so I

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