Episode 305 w/ Jason Lee

Would it could be? Hopefully? Would it super be? This is your boy? And oh what up? Is d J e f N and his Drink Chats. Motherfucker yap Yalla made something Now when we interviewing this brother right here, I've been um, I've been watching the progress, watching and then I wanted to, you know, do my due diligence. I could say to him a friend, but I wanted to do my dudeen. Just because he's my friend doesn't mean or a person that I you know, it doesn't mean I'm not supposed to do the research I was

supposed to do. So I did it, and I can see the transition. I could see him going from coming in the game just not caring to understanding that the lives just happening. This guy is a media mogul when you see what he built from the ground up, come from Stockholm, right stocked in. Okay, my back, I was close enough. I'm dyslexic. I'm gonna blame it on dyslexia. But the man came dominated has relationships with people like Floyd Mayweather, Rihanna Dre and our friend friend of the show,

Mr Yazos. The man means so much when he covers your story, your story will be covering. So in case you don't know who the funk we're talking about, it's your mother one the only motherfucker. Jason Lee makes a goddamn but basically you drinking some as spade with me, I don't give We don't know if people understand what our show was about. Our show was really about giving people their flowers. You understand, I'm saying so many people

that's where we started it. I know so many people use that phrase now, but we we we didn't invent it, but we made it popular. We realized that when you have ten years or more in this game, when people say is you're washed up and you're gone, and we wanted to pick up our legends. So for you being here, we want you to know we look at you as a legend. We look at you as a motherfucking media mogul, and we're gonna motherfucker's salute your motherfucker ask in your face.

But we're gonna also celebrate your ass and that and that means because say you know, you know what I will say is you're one of the few people that have always given me love. When you saw me this tee me the first time you saw me, I was surprised that you even knew who I was. And I'm very humble on what I do. But I did come here today to talk my ship. Yes you did. Like this year, motherfucker's gonna stop recognized because I really worked hard.

I'm black, I'm gay. Let's start with that. I still damn black, and I'm out here and I started everything from from the from the mudd, and I feel like a lot of people have taken advantage of me being humble. I'm still gonna be humble because that's just who I am and that's where I come from. But I but I also said, like this was the year two thoere, I'm gonna step it up and not you and go even harder than I ever have it. I've already started. You got a phrase that you said that I like,

you said, we gotta cancel cancel culture. In fact fact that was that was on the timing. Was that on time, and nobody's gonna make no noise with me. Jesus, that was on time, and you said you gotta cancel cancel culture. I I need you to elaborate on that, because ahead, but cancel culture really only exists. It only sticks for black people, right like white people. They can get canceled today and tomorrow. They can be on a whole another magazine they could be, they can have another fortune fire,

and the companies support them. I'll give you an example of that woman, Aquafina. Now, if you ever drink water, Aquafina is the worst water you're ever gonna drink. You could suck water out of a toilet and it would taste comparable to Aquafina. There's an Asian actress named Aquafina. I don't know what she acts in because I don't look for her, but she apparently was canceled on Twitter for black sent you know, using our our accent or whatever,

talking black, whatever the funk that means. And then I was watching the super Bowl today along with all the other niggas who stopped kneling for a cap and then I saw her in the super Bowl commercial. Now, if we do something, I ain't seen Whoopy in the super Bowl commercial, but I see Aquafina super Bowl commercial. Cancel culture really ain't real unless it's our culture it applies to, because then they don't just cancel as they try to

destroy us. When I realized like a lot of the reporting we were doing was kind of working in tandem with that agenda, we switched it up and started looking at the other side of it, like, Okay, well, if you're gonna cancel Whoopy, why Joe Rogan still over there? I to pay my next question? You know what I I mean? I think let's let's get a little drinking us. Let's go. Let's go. This is a setup, by the way, No, because let me just say up. Let me just tell

you something. Why he sat me up? No, sat me up because I told him and James I'm not drinking a day. So let me just tell you something. Let me just tell you something because I watched your interviews and you're very You're very, very, very very ill. You have a very like all of us have a unique style to us. But what I'm saying is, but before we get into that, what is the difference between Whoopie and Joe Rogan? Besides the fact that of the obvious

black and white, what's the other difference? I don't think there is any other difference. I mean, you know, we live in a world where hashtag protect black women only applies to making the statue when we're talking about who shot her. It doesn't apply to all black women. Because Whoopi Goldberg being a black icon, somebody who from when I was a little kid, I watched every movie that she's ever done. She's won every award in every lane of the industry. She's literally one of our beacons of

like what we all can be coming for. She literally was put on time out, like she literally was sat down for two weeks. Like she's on a view without a view, right, Like how do you put She's not only on the view, she's the moderator of the view. Her job is to moderate conversations that are very politically charged or or racially charged. I mean, this is the same person who walked off the set when Bill O'Reilly was doing all his ship. But again, you know, she's

black and Joe Rogan is white. Joe Rogan still has not lost a dollar from what I understand, and not only he's not the lost of dollar, but Spotify actually came out and showed support for him. Right, that's crazy. It's not really crazy, though, And that's the thing. We gotta stop with the selective anger and frustration with the fact that we live and exist in a white world. And until you own your own ship, like y'all own your ship, do you own your own ship, you don't

have that freedom. I wake up every day. I don't feel no shackle, I don't feel no chan I don't feel no restriction. I talked to everybody from you. I talked to leaders of the gay communite. I talked to top Dog Whack. I talked to everybody and I and I have a very this conversation with everybody because I own me right. So, um, you had this this moment, this you a b Madonna, Oh, Julian Fox, Kanye and TMZ steals your footage? Yeah, the only they steal your

footage They don't even credit the y'all. They don't even say it's right. You actually have a lawsuit against TMZ, but we haven't filed it yet, but we are sending them a letter to start the process. Yeah, I mean, when's the I mean, it's not surprising that white people still from black people and white people still from black culture, right. I mean, Harvey has been a cocksucker mine for a long time. And I don't know if it's just because he's old or you know, he on his way out.

I heard he sold tim Z. That's what they do, right, They might in trade. That's what they did the slaves too, But I ain't know slave nigger. And this is what I told tim Z. Right, you can use my content like I use yours, But there's proper crediting. There's there's just a culture that exists in licensing and you know, yeah they yeah, I'm a sip flow you know now. I mean, like there's just a proper way to handle business. We've oh, I we have policies at Hollywood knock on

how my writers use their content. You just can't take my courtesy. That not only that, though I knew how iconic was, let me tell you how I got these bitches together and set them up for a lawsuit. Right once I saw what was happening, and you said, let's all go take a photo, because you had everybody on there, from Madonna to Ya to uh A B and even my ass who was probably the least notable but still in the Floyd maybe have all been canceled at some point.

Everybody a B canceled for taking off shirt. Floyd they say he was a woman being not just taking I'm you know, I'm just looking a you know Floyd who they say was a woman bea there me for throwing a drink on love and hip hop. Uh you know, yeah every other day, you know. So I'm like, forgot just canceled any Madonna for like, you know, all the stuff she was doing back in the eighties. So when I looked at the moment while it was happening, I

was like, Yo, this is iconic. So what I did was before I posted it, we filed for copyright to protect this, to protect it, And this is what everybody who owns content to do. If you don't have a copyright attorney or somebody to trademark your ship. All my logos is trademark. Content is trademark. You can take it and do what you want with it, but I'm gonna get you on the back of the automatically flags. Right. Absolutely, there's all types of you know, tools to manage all

that shi on every platform. So we had already filed the copyright when I posted it. So when they posted and then incredit me, and I put them on blasts and then they then they read they took it down and reposted it and then credited me. Like, now that ain't how it works. Now you actually just devalue this this mona Lisa of a moment. And when you look back in history of what that how how dope that moment was, That's what it's going to be looked at it. And now you gotta pay me. And now what is

that moment? The moment is when this camera just movement. It's not really content, just the camera just moment. Think about it, if I think about it, if I put out my cell phone right now, this is content. All of us here, We all are here to benefit this moment. Now other people outside can judge how valuable it is. It's gonna be people in the comments and say why are you interviewing that fagot because I'm leaving you, not because I'm rich and you're not because I'm cute and

you're not, bitch. But yeah, I mean there's there's like there's like people that are gonna look at this and say, oh that that's not value. But then there's other people that WI be like, hell, yeah that's valuable. Well guess what we get to reap all the benefits of that value. This is your ship, So why do I get to be a pirate and take it? The same with music? Right, So,

what I'm saying is a person in digital content. My music is any interview I do, any piece of property I put out that I feel it's valuable, and they get you they're gonna pay for or don't share it. Okay, now I'm gonna switch this subject a little word after I'm gonna sit real slowly. Yeah, yeah, let's listen after I do this every interview, right, Um, I have social media, but one of my most negative it is Twitter. So before I get again, as I always, I saw any question,

this was the ironic park. I don't know if you noticed. This was the ironic park. And I'm blowing something up. I don't know if I should be blowing it. That's okay. Peter Rosenberg hits me and goes that nigga had a question for me. I know he ain't got a question, so he goes, let me take my glass. He goes, he goes, what you didn't know because even when I googled you, that didn't pop up like that. Y'all have problems because he's not important. So I mean, here's the deal, right,

you google me? You see my interview with you, three billion impressions. You know, you see my maybe me hanging out with Rihanna, She's a god. You see me. I mean, all the people that I associate with are are relevant. Peter Rosenberger privileged as white boy who grew up in the suburbs, got a fucking job talking about hip hop and became some guru that knows hip hop songs. You're

not fucking black. And you know the problem that I have with Peter Rosenberg Before we get into all the details, because I got put all the screenshots because I know where he was gonna go to that. You know what's so crazy. I've looked at this nigger in his face and told him he was full of ship. Why are you playing around on my playground? The internet is my playground. I can make him my bitch boy, because the problem

now that he has a problem with me. The problem now that he has a problem with me, is that now all the little sitt he ever did, if he ever wore skirty, if he ever some other bitch, whatever he's ever done, it's going to come out. Why getting a fight with me. I'm the floyd made whether the Internet. But see what happened was he chose one day to wake up in his tired ass bed, with his tired ass life, looking at his stupid ass dog on his way to his tired ass job. Hot ninety seven ain't

been hot since ninety seven? You know, hold, you know he's never gonna do this before. It's crazy any that dog my dogs is cuted in his dogs, you know, like I literally be minding my business. I was minding my business and here this nigga is all on social media like a bit. Okay, so where did you start? Okay, yeah, okay, we did the sake because yeah we don't. We don't know because I mind you and he's drink Chams alumni. You've been on he's a privileged white boy. I'm sure

he's been to a lot of schools. He's an alumni of a lot of things where he's not an alumni as Hollywood Unlock, but he has an open invitation. So what happened? So all right? So I went, so I really don't be doing interviews because I'm like, I really want to go where the culture lives. This is important, like I look at like where I'm going to my career. This is important to me because I know how important

you are to the culture. Right on the show Breakfast Club here uh ebro show was literally one of the worst interviews I ever did. It was tired, it was late. They were trying to gaslight me into being provocative, Like you don't gotta do that. I can give you provocative if I just opened my eyes and open my heart, right, But they were trying to gaslight me, trying to get trying to shoot on. Wendy Williams were really none of

them niggas would have a job without her anyway. Um And I didn't really like the interview and thought it was born into of my people. I never want to go back so fast forward. Maybe they got wind of that. I don't know the other day, I did Fuzzies Interview Back podcast f Q. Yeah, Win did it and I had a great time. Like I'm on this new like, let's teamore Cappuccino, like, let's be positive. I lost all this weight money weight down. I'm like, yo, let's be positive.

Did a good interview, and then they posted a clip where I say, then he went on their posts and said, why are you interviewing this clown giving him a platform he doesn't deserve it? You know, he man of fact holder, actually got the motherfucker she's getting ready through. I got a whole bunch of so what he said. What he said was by the way he went on their post. This is literally on a post like I'm minding my own business, and I told him please get off my

dick and go back to work. But let me tell you what he said. He said, that's what you said, Okay, he said, by the way, I respect you both and have it for a long time. I'm just watching this. We propped up yet another person who only cares about dirt, gossip and bullshit. This dude has zero qualms about lying. He's done it to me a couple of times already.

Don't know why you put him on their ship's corny And I said, ha, ha, don't be mad because I don't kiss your ass, your company man, and I'm self made. There's a difference. Ps here we are here, you are commenting like a fan. Don't you have a nine to five to go to? That's where it started. Okay, Now this was just literally a few days. Okay, Um, I don't know what Hot ninety seven policies are for employees playing around on the clock, but when he's clocked in,

he should mind his motherfucking business. And then I got to thinking, like it's black But what happened before that? Nothing? Nothing, I didn't have, no nothing. Okay, oh oh, I do think I know what it was. I went on. I went on the Breakfast Club to talk about Karen Sibyl. You know, she try to take me out. She felt like him. Um. And when I went on the show they I had went on and looked at their commentary.

I walked, I watched to see what everybody was saying, because you know, everybody that's listening doesn't really understand the politics in the industry. There's a lot of there's a lot of you know, there's a lot of bullshit going

on behind the scenes. You know, people got each other back whatever, and I'm not mad with with that, but I look at when they play with me, I'm like, Okay, I'm fair to everybody, but then if you take sides with somebody against me, then clearly you're not on you're not on my side because you're not at least in the middle. And when I looked at how they talked about what happened with Karen and I, it was took about Hot Night seven. Yes, they recapped everything that was happening.

You know, Ebro. I know he's getting older and he has a lot of gray hair, but he was acting very like did they did they recap um you and Cameron's before they recap the episode um the episode the breakfast Well, they're never gonna recap the Breakfast club because they're getting they Yeah, they're getting beat by them and every number in every every area of the business. But no, they recapped the situation. Okay, that's what I'm asking. Okay,

but they hadn't done all their research. They didn't. They don't Maybe they don't have a Googler, maybe they don't have a computer over there. They didn't do any research. And so the way they recapped it was very watered down and it was very lazy. And that's what clearly why their show is is falling behind power one of five in the Breakfast Club. So I criticized and I was just like, yo, this was lazy journalism. You clearly didn't do your research. Um, and it was bullshit. I

think that's where I heard his feelings. Yeah, and then okay, and so he waited, you know, he waited, Um, he waited, and then I guess he took this as an opportunity to jump into the conversation. So now here we go. What I like about you is immediately you said, but you gave him your platform to talk on him. It's not the first time I've seen you he would, just not the first time I've seen you say that, like you have a discripinity with somebody and then say, you

know what, I'll write you on my plat for you. Now. Is that solely because you can control the atmosphere or is that because you feel everyone deserves a voice to speak? Well, um too, I mean both one. I've already been on their show and it was lame and it was boring and they're lazy journalists, and honestly, like, I'm never going back to that ship show. It's trash, uh And I don't need it because I beat Hot nine and the numbers on social media. I beat Peter Rosenberg and numbers

on social media. My impressions, my interviews. I don't know the last time any interview they did got three billion impressions. I'm waiting for them to show me. But you know, back to Peter Rosenberger, we can talk about the lazy suburbian brat. Okay, he said that. What did he say? He said that when I when I interviewed on their show, he said, our culture, our culture. Let's talk about appropriation, culture appropriation, because I think they let this white boys

sit up. They were privileged for way too long. What the funk mean you mean our culture? We don't share this with you. You don't get a job, and then all of a sudden it's your culture. You could be a part of it. But to put me and him in the same conversation. I went and looked at his Wikipedia today. By the way, it's very very dry. All that says is he plays in w W and fucking has a radio show. All right, my nigga. Listen, I got shot in the hood. I watched my brother get

his brains blown out in the hood. I've been in My mother was a heroin at it, putting hair win in her fucking veins. I've been in foster care. I've been abused, I've been molested, I've been through all types of ship. And the only dick I'm sucking is not another nigga in my land in the industry, because I don't need to. I got fucking money. I became a

millionaire on my own by my own hard work. So when I look at him trying to put me in him in the same conversation, that's like putting a fucking jet in a fucking Greyhound bust in the same conversation. You are what used to be. I'm what's next. And the problem with a lot of these dinosaurs is they have a problem with the fact that the nigga actually built his own ship and demands that people respect him. You ain't pulling up because I got a booker book in him. He called me just like he loves you

and this show. He loves the fact that he learned about me and my show and the fact that we are fair. And when I look at Peter talking about all I do was gossip, Nigga, didn't you ambush Kodak Black and have him walk about the studio when you're ambushing with the sex charges. But see, even in that interview, he said to me, he said to y'all, this is what y'all do. Y'all set us up. See in my interviews,

I've never had one person walk out on me. Never I've had boom Game pull a gun on me in an interview, but not walk out because he was pulled because this was before he found Jesus. He was a crackhead, you know what I mean, That's what they do. So it wasn't like it wasn't like, you know what I mean, I did something to provoke him. I don't provoke it. I want you to look your best when you leave talking to me. But for him to try to paint this narrative on me, it's the same ship that white

people do the black people all the time. But him gaslight ad me on social media. He thought I was gonna stop. He followed me. He tried to DM me like a bit, I'm not doing that you started online. Now I'm gonna make you look like a motherfucking fool, and that's exactly what he looked like. Well, hopefully working out now there's no working it out. Definitely wasn't ready for that's not working out. I told hor ninety seven

idem that might said weird deer management. We are no longer posting any of your content because Peter Rosenberg has been disrespectful and he's bullying us during Black history. But signed the boss Jason, I ain't high nineties seven in their contest, so any other person over high night. So I'll give if you interview Jesus in the next coming, you're not getting posted. Fuck y'all as a company us Jesus, Jesus,

can I get a blood holy ship? So let me ask you, because this is something as I'm researching you, this is something that I did not know. I feel like I've been set up to. No, no, not you good you good a great way in great in a great way because we're gonna have fun, we celebrating you. You You know what I'm saying. Come on, I'm gonna keep your eight spade full. But yeah, we gonna get too QuickTime Slom didn't did, It's gonna go. But this is something that I did not know when I googled you

a couple of times, you and your what name was? Was? Was like compared, like, what do you know? It's crazy. I'm gonna tell y'all. Let me, y'all watch it right, let me tell you about him. Okay, I think he fucking slick because I do this, he think I'm slick. First of all, this is a fun atmosphere. All the laughter disarms you, all the drink. No, this maignula be a messy right now. I didn't go in, but I'm

here for all this. I didn't go into it because I didn't really understand it because again, y'all live in this it's a totally different world that we live in. It's the same world. But um, and when I seen that y'all actually have back and forth, I didn't know that, So like, can you walk us through that? Like, okay, first let me say, um, I don't even hate Peter Rosberg. I'm gonna get to you, Joe. I don't even hate Peter Roseberg. I just want to put a bow on that.

He's just really irrelevant. And I met Yolanda Adams yesterday. She knew who I was and she said, yeah, she knew who I was, and I'm still humbled by people knowing who I am because I love her so much. And she said when she got on stage talking to the group, sometimes you gotta let go and let guy. So that was me letting gonna let god. I'm okay, okay, all right, Joe. Yeah, when I got into this world, I looked at Charlottemagne. The God is literally like the blueprint.

And then I looked at Joe Budden. It's like a fearless ass ship talker because I don't really people think I know everybody's tear or their business. I really don't know, Like until I get into it with you, I really don't be looking around what you're doing. When I get into it what you then I'm all in your mama ship, I'm in your daddy ship, I'm in your kids. I'm looking at everything that's going on, all right, Joe Budden.

When I saw when I started my podcast, uh just started as a radio show, first started as a podcast. Past you're ready because you're interview Melissa fo We're gonna keep the horming ready and you know so uh yeah, okay, wait, so Joe, so I looked at Joe and I remember I called Joe and I said, Yo, Joe, Me, you and Charlotte Maagne literally like where the rebels on the podcast and ship right now, Like three of us need to come together and just do one episode somewhere anywhere.

And he was like, yo, you know that's gonna be too expensive. I'm like, Nick, I do it for free because I do it for the culture. Just do it, you know. So I saw he was on his cocky boy ship whatever. So that we had had lunch. What point is this? Like what years is this was like

a couple of years ago. We met up for lunch at the Mandrean Skybar in l A. It was just a lunch thing, and he told me he respected me, and I of course respected him and what he did, you know what I mean in the podcast world, I've been on the Breakfast Club like three times by that point. So like I had had affection. I had affection for what Charlottagne did and was following the blueprint and never approach me about it because they always had some weird

ship going on, you know. And then I saw they did someone revote to Joe and Joan Charogne he always had some weird relationship. But then I saw they did some one revolt and I'm like, okay, well now all you gotta do is ad me we could do something. But I love how he says revote, you know, say vote. We're gonna get to that later too. It's in a note, you know, it's I did my search, but as you're gonna start. I hope everybody watching, everybody watching at home.

I hope I pray that you're that you're witnessing that I am a victim. It is always once. It's always one sided. Like look it, Peter was one. I was doing an interview. I got attack this situation. I'm about displaying you. I got attack the next thing. I just hope everybody pays attention. There's a lot of people gonna be in the comment saying fun can he's troublemaker easily because whatever. But I'm just telling you pay attention. Okay. I have lunch with Joe. He likes me, I like him.

We get in COVID. So it's two thousand nineteen. Now you gotta be phrased that because the way you said I like Joe like Joe, were getting covide he's not like type. He doesn't have good skin. So look so so so we have COVID. We have COVID happening, right, so we all locked in our houses and he agreed to do like a live interview with me on Instagram. It wasn't like, no real ship, was just an Instagram thing. But I was honored because he's Joe Budden and he at the time, at the time, he was a he

was a premier podcaster, you know. So I interview him and then I mean, we do that thing, and then that's really it. That's the that's the nature of our relationship. One lunch where I had probably a see is Your Salad? And an Instagram live during COVID, that's it. Maybe a text here and there. But now we're not friends. We're not like me and Floyd or Yeah, we're just we're just acquaintces and we're in the same industry. Okay. So I get a call one day from to hearing who

says she wants to come on my show. Okay, well, what are we gonna talk about? Let me talk to my producer. She starts talking about producer and then she's talking to my producer. Whatever she wants to talk about, and whatever she wants to talk about is school. It has nothing to do with Joe. When we get on the show, she gets to talking and she basically says, Joe beat her ass and kicked her down some stairs allegedly or whatever. Now this is her interview, just like

this is my interview. You might have a relationship with Peter Rosenberg, but you're giving me with the respect of saying what I want to say. That's what makes this a great show. I'm not a publicist. I am a fucking podcaster, broadcaster, multimedia person. So in the interview, while she's saying, I'm like, oh, ship, like this is this is a lot. But I let her tell her story. So after I tell her story, I did think, like, should I call Joe and give him my heads up

because they just had a lunch. No, we had lunch a while ago, all right, I don't even know what I had lunch with two weeks ago, like you know what I mean. So like I thought about it, but I was like, no, because then if he goes live and he starts attacking her, then it looks like I gave him the heads up. When a woman was saying, then it's like all these problems, you gotta think about how the internet gonna act. So I said, you know what, I'm just gonna let it go. Well, I happened to

release it on his birthday. I don't know his birthday. I don't He's not in my birthday cantar. He's not in my zodiac chart. Oh no, not about that. He gets piste and he goes on this show and he's basically says, lose my number, nigga, like the way you say to something after you fucked him, Like, lose my number, nigga, Like basically like I was a bit like lose my number, nigga? Like, goodly, I got Rihanna's number. Nick, I don't give a funk about your number, nigga. I got the Weekends number. I

don't give a about your number. I have never even had a nigga called me and say lose my numbers deleted. And that was it for me. And I went on my show and I basically said, like, Nick, that was lame. That's it. Now. When the Karen civil ship went down, he popped up kind of supporting her. What makes sense, She's a part of his podcast network. Well, but there's a lot of people who supported Karen Dough at that time. But let's just let's finish with a lot of people

supported Hillary Clinton. She lost Jesus. You know, like losers have support too. And I looked at all that support as like, y'all all in your line down right, losers have support. I'm fucking winning out here. All my ship is up. So when I look at the losers supporting a loser, I'm like, bitch, you're gonna need me because you're gonna suck a bit. You're not supposed to nig and you're not gonna want me to say nothing, and I'm gonna tell it and I'm gonna DM it to

your big So it's likely like for me. For me, I would just be like, yo, I don't know what's going on with you and that nigg over there, but I'm not in that. That's a smart man. Any nigger who wants to get on that cool, not a problem. Your taxes better be in line, nigga, Your fucking ship better be buttoned up, because when I find it, and I've had a record of being petty, I'm trying to be better and I pray every day to the Lord, but sometimes he don't answer my calls. You know what

I mean? My god, No, I told, I told, I told yesterday, I said. You know your song, Um, the battle is not yours is the Lord's is one of my favorite songs. But there are some battles that I say, no, nigga, this one belongs to me. So when it comes to Joe, I never hated Joe. I still don't hate Joe. Joe is irrelevant in the Hollywood Unlocked space. He lost his podcast co host. I guess there was some money ship

they all didn't get. Ain't that horrible when you get to school or your lunch money got took from a bully. I don't know what happened with them, because the way we handled our business, everybody got paid, didn't make everybody stay clearly as you know. But you know, everybody got paid, and I look at it like yo, But that's the fucking narcissism and Joe Budden that your world is so convoluted by the bullshit that you don't realize. Nigga, you're

losing everything. Girls said you beat there not the first one. Then your podcast host left, and then I'm the bad guy because it happened to come out on your birthday because I didn't actually have it in my calendar. I'm sorry, I don't know what to tell you. Okay, I'm gonna actually one more question to be gonna move on a quick time? Okay, Now, am I doing good stuff? You're doing fantastic? You know what? Are you having fun? I'm having I'm gonna blame it on the alcohol, you know what.

Let me ask you. Okay, all right, I'm gonna ask you to me. You got you gotta quick time on slim ready, Okay, take a time, take your time, time, quick time. You take your time on QuickTime slip. Okay. You developed this relationships right with these people? Right? Uh? Some people you six, I see envy says you. He's like yoll called you to thank you, and you'll never

spoke about what y'are was thinking of. But I read it me two in the lines, and I could see that it was something that you could have probably blew up or you could have mentioned or whatever, and you didn't know whatever. Right, we did mention it, but we mentioned it very fair, okay, very fit, when other people were not. Okay, So I don't know what that is, and it doesn't it doesn't matter because you didn't say

it on there. But have you ever has a friendship ever came into the line of the story like you know what I'm saying, Like like thee yeah, I got no way. Yeah, Like I'll give you an example, like this week, my friends over here shaking his head because I write about him too. I mean, you know what he calls. He's threatened me about your friends. But listen, he's in the spotlight. This is why it's everybody. This is what Rihanna said to me when she met me. And this is why I love her, not just because

she is the most beautiful. She smelled good smells relations to them. Yeah, I love her because the baby, it's all of ours. I'm got a sad Rocky coming to right, okay, so and I love Rocky all right? So um so yeah. The first thing, first thing she said to me, what she said, Um, I know that it's hard, she said, I know, um that it's hard with somebody like me being friends with somebody like you and having a friendship. But as a business woman, I respect how you built

your brand. That's how she started our relationship, and and it was it was the first time in a long time I felt like a celebrity, actually saw me as a person, didn't see me as a tool to use to promote something or you know what I mean. And y'all know, right, but but sorry to cut you off, but let me ask you something in that situation right there, What if you knew Rihanna was pregnant and who she was pregnant by and this this this dating rumors that it wasn't out, but this is the this is the

funny things. So would you have would you have that? This is the funny that. And when Rocky comes asked him that question because when we were together in New York at the Savage Finty party, it was some about their energy that I felt, baby and I and I literally have this thing where I can manifest or I see or I feel, I feel stuff because I'm I'm an EmPATH and I'm an energy person. I go at people's energy. Right when when Rocky was kind into the side, I looked at her, I said, are you you y'all

y'all trying to have a baby or something. She's like, no, no, no, I said, what do you want to have a baby? She said, Well, if it's meant to be, you know, what I mean, we'll do it. I said, what about marriage? You know? She was like you know, and she said what she said, But we we kind of talked about the baby thing, right, So we leave after that. Um, I'm hitting her, like, you know, you said he was gonna come over to the house. Are you coming over?

And she's like, oh, I'm out of town. I'm like, okay, well are you in New York? I fly to New York. I'm in New York too? Where you? Oh, I'm going to Arbadas. So I'm like, girl, you trying to dodge me now. So now I start thinking, RhE is up to something. So she invites so I think she thought I was on tour. So she invited me to a photoshop. When get a photoshop, she kind of covering up a little bit, so I'm kind of looking at and she's

not drinking, but they're giving me drinks. So then I so I call her one day and I said, read, listen, I just want to say if you're pregnant, I promise you I won't even tell the world, like I won't tell nobody. And she was like, oh no, Rocky and I talked about it. You'll be the first and I felt it was bullish, ill like you bullshit, But I left her so much she could lie to me in my face. I won't care, okay, but let me take

them to happen. So then I try to link up with her a few times and she don't link So when she when when the pregnancy came out, she sent me the photo, send me the photo after it broke and she said, me and Rocky talked about this and we were supposed to let you know first, but I am pregnant. Blah blah blah. The point is even the people I'm the closest to still feel that they got to be careful, which I respect, but they still give me dignity. Like I'm not an animal, you know what

I mean. Like I'm not searching for a story because I get the stories all day. So like if you're ever in the studio and you're chilling in, you've happened to walk into a room and you see it, whoo whoop do whoop. So I have rules. Here's my rules. No outing, Um, we don't attack children. And then private time is private time. So if I'm in your private if you bring me into your private space, I respect

that and I'm not going I don't. I don't even like I tell my friends leave your phone in the cars, leave your phone in your pockets, don't know social media, you know. And then when they come in my personal space, it's still personal time. There's none of that, you know what I mean. But I still have to be very clear.

Don't party with me and think all of a sudden that the ship you do on the internet is a secret, because if you put it out there like where you do something like like Karen allegedly stealing all that money, that's where she got mad. She got mad when she got mad. No, wait, no, I'm an ask you a question. He asked the question right, Okay, she got mad because she thought she was my friend, and the little ship she was doing to take a little nigger money allegedly

was I was supposed to keep it a secret. Why Because I had a credit repair company. We fixed your badass credit. Because we lived in the same building, because we see each other at the mailbox. No, I liked you. I okay, I loved Karen civil, but she was a thief. That's what they were saying. I'm not supposed to do my job. No, I'm not a co conspirator. Y'all know

what that is. When you're in a car with somebody do a drive by, you choose not to say when she drove by and took that money, that was a drive If you're in the car, you're guilty too, allegedly. All right, let me ask you this is one more even before getting the quick time, because I've noticed, like there's been people that been getting mad at me, like you see how you say a joke just now, I've

been trying to keep my straight face. Tis Yeah. There's people that come to me like the show voice matters, that's what let me ask you. Like, and there's people that do have relationships with They're like, why do you laugh like that? I'm like, the way I laugh offended you?

And have you ever gone through that? Like that's all someone came on your show, just someone else and you you kind of like, I think people pretty much write me off as a mess, like fuck him, like that guy he you know, at least behind my back, fuck him. He's gonna say whatever because they already know I'm going

to laugh if it's funny. It's funny. I think the reason because you know, you also have a different seat like you're important, You're an important imprint in hip hop, like you your legacy matters beyond what's happening in the blogger sphere right now, and so your voice travels very differently than my mind is. I started being messy and started being messy because honestly, nobody gave me a fair chance.

Like nobody funk with me when I was trying to do the whole let's be friends and talk about your fashion, and it was like, no, we're not coming over there. I was like, Okay, your man ugly, your kid didn't here you this has music, whack suck your line? Fuck you show. Your numbers is low, You're horrible, You're fat. I was Then I had to because you know what, they didn't risk when the numbers when um, I was like, let's go, and God wasn't answering. God was like that's

just disconnected. Like no, but you know, honestly, like I didn't even want to be that guy. The industry forced me into that. You you're too respected and to love to be that. So anything that looks outside the box for you and be criticized, but who cares? Your winning? Okay, So this is for a quick time oh yeah, by the way, yes, because I gotta get We gotta give your flowers while you here, like we said, like I said, you mean so much to the coach of your music mobile.

You've been monkey footing and kicking down the doors on your own builty ship, on your own so we literally wanted to give you your own motherfucker flowers. Got him shout out about the flowers. Saw the bucking flowers. Yes, yes, your motherfucking flowers forever, Charlotte Magne, step your game. He got been on your show four times and I ain't got ship. I got drinks and some rog and according to us our contract, we also got a rock bottom for you too. Yeah, we get look get to that later.

That's two different companies, two different governies want to about this. Okay, okay, which can't remember that one? Puffy? Now, I text you the other day and you didn't text me back. Now I know you're gonna see this, love, So let me

say this. When y'all watched the BlackBerry Bottle, I let y'all do that for Cardi b surprise birthday probably got several millions impressions, and I didn't even take a dollar for it because I loved Rock, and I loved you, and your people failed to call me to even say thank you. Like. See the thing about it is they've been shipping on me for a long time. But now two thousand twenty two, no more. I said the other day, I got bulletproof windows at my house. Now I will

lock myself. I don't even impact. I got my A R fifty, all my rifles and pistols in my my life and my stuff. I said, I would just lock myself in my house now and just do my job, because like bridge building is not easy in this business, like especially when you start for yourself, Like I have no political ties to nobody. I literally wake up every day and just don't give a funk. Right, I care, but I don't give a funk. I care about people, but at the end of day, if you're not, I

don't get funk. So I look at like s Rock being a symbol of like, uh, what of what a man could be come from? Like puff story is like a story that I followed. Right, this is a man who had passion, determination, He took no for he did not take no for answer. He built, he gated j LO. I mean he was in the club with Jlo and the shootout, and the shootout somebody else went to jail for it. Shout out to Shan who was here to somebody else went to jail for it. But you know,

but you know what though, come outside, James record. But you know what, no, no shade though. When when when you hanging out with the richest person in the room or you the young guy, you're supposed to take the l for him. So, I mean, I don't even want to get into that with that. Sean we had Sean here. Yeah, you've had everybody because they fun with you. So we answered that. Yeah, okay, so now this is called quick time with Slim. Alright, this is how the game goes.

Explain it clearly too. Yeah. I mean, I'm so ready to move on to these other questions. So we're gonna try to run through this fact. But yeah, thank you, because we gonna run through it. We still got to get to my cars. That yeah, that's that's very next right after this trying to get the more This is like we were trying to get you a drunk rock. Okay, all right, so that's why I had to listen. So right,

so let's play in the game it's one or the other. Right, if you pick both, you take a shot off your choice. We can have. We got Japanese whiskey, we got so Rock, we got if I'm yeah, so yeah. But we're gonna say we drink with you. If you drink with you, if you like if people that you like, both of them that you like, and you want to drink. I'm not going to be politically okay, alright, cool, so then you won't be drinking. But all right, all right, okay,

I'm gonna do a shot just the case. Get a shot glass ready, you have repressive we could we have some of the ball back there. We will make it happen. We have Delon. That's Mahanna. Fine, watch y'all this time, baby, we got to guests to drink Delon baby. Okay, holding what up? He want figure it out? Yeah, okay, this is part of the Yeah, yeah, that's okay. If we just you know, leaving right there. Okay, this is a part of this is this is every fan's favorite part

of the game. And by the way, you're the first openly game person that page that played this game, because I've just been other games on it. We're gonna ask you after this game, lay the names on the table. Go yeah, yeah, yeah you really think you know? I never really thought out my career. My career has sucked up my dating life because I really like I like dating deal guys so like, but they won't sunk with

me now because of my job. Like damn, like gonna tell y'all got so great like i' even send your flowers. I know what your stue is working. Are you ready? Biggie Big Punt, Biggie podcast a radio podcast, Kanye Kanye fave or pusher? You know what. I'm not familiar with either really like that. So that's a shot either neither. Wait if you say both, that's if you say both are neither? That? No more shots that, y'all's the game. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, da let

me get my own. You're supposed to be ready for this because y'all got real liquor here. Y'all need to Yeah, we're not plucking around, no wonder Melissa spoke on me in public. Hold on, hold on, hold on, And this is to your career, everything you do. We respect you, We love you. Overhead, thank you. Yeah, that's the last shot I'm taking let's Queen Latifa like Queen lie motherfucking Tifa. We both of them on drinks. By the way, both of them you've had no we need both of them.

Danny don't answer her phone so cold that that's how you know he's getting money. He didn't even call a Day. Can you tell Day to call out cold? That black a little baby, A little baby source for XXL. Well source because it source. I'm with the source to the legendary. This is a little controversy. Cardi b what the fun was? What he was? Because that's what theres that? Because that's my bitch. And no, because that's never happened. WHOA. My

job is to predict the next niggas movie. My job fully impressed, bro, my job, hold up, hold up, that's at just because of that shot. Just come of that told that's my job because I need to understand. That's my next question when we get out of this. CARDI think you don't like her? Is that true? Who mean? Cardi? She told me she don't think you like her. That's definitely a rumor. You got me. We look she told

me that. I said, I said, there's no way. First video you wanna put up Okay, we love Cardi, we get Cardi here. Yes, please would love Cardill right now. I don't know who case you do think. I'm please following it right now. I'm following the right motherfucking now. And I just hell yeah, we would love to have her on the show. Yeah, I'm here with Nori And he said he loves you, so we clear motherfucking now. But I don't have no wings and look at the cat.

But imagine, yeah, we can't see your face, we can't see your fa We're clearing the air right now. I said, tell her we got some mamajuana for her. Yeah, yeah, we love you over here, Cardi. We would love you to come and drink chests anytime you're ready. All right, but instead of Linco, we're gonna smoke cigarettes. Cigarettes. We're not doing a cigarette. I've never been before like this before. That's another podcastigarette. Alright, mate, Champ, I'm gonna call you

back expect. Let's see that right there. That's Hollywood a lot. We get straight to the motherfucking he like, we get straight to it. And that's why people hate me because I'm not waiting to see what the fun the shade

room and everybody doing, y'all do that. I'm gonna create the news and we're gonna get card here and I'm gonna come and drink that was hard right there by the way and tupocket DMX, tupad okay Miami or l A Miami taking the shot because I was gonna take no. Listen, l A is where I live and where I make my money. But it's a fake gass city and I'm not working with those people out there like that. We're gonna give me tell what I love about Miami, and Miami is sexy. I got to the hotel that I

walked out solid at the water. I hit my nigg I said, y'all need a boat on third Wednesday. I just love the vibe here. I like going to Prime. I like the club shout to my boy prince right here, like all the clubs out here, and let the people are beautiful, and I really feel like it's the East Coast vibe of either Miami or New York. It's just it is what it is. Either funk with you, we don't.

We eiven want to work with you. We don't, And we want to have a good time and have sex and get drunk and get high like l a. They'd be like, what you do for a living, bitch, make more money to you. Okay, dreau take a shot? No, no, no, no, no, um you know what. Damn. Yeah, I'm gonna take a shot. You know I like that. I'm gonna take a shot. I'm gonna take your shot only because out of respect for both they both icons that don't return his phone calls.

Maybe Okay, this is the last shot, So anything y'all say. Now, I'm just sucking answering cool, hold on, but this is this is this is great. This is great information. That's great for me. Fat Joe or you know, you're a problem. So I'm gonna tell you why. Because he's a nice guy. You said that you sit the guests across from him, disarmed and where they're like, oh he cool and ship and then you over here throwing this messy Yeah he like, well I got great hair, like figuring about something Jason

from Rick. We're also fat Joe. Fuck you know damn I love them both. Okay, wait, may question because my eyes get all right, that's like like five more damn, and I'm answering every question. Don't worry, don't worry about it then and then and then when I burned the Internet down, lose every deal. No, I got you bro, you know it warned me about the show there was my public was likely not do that. It means we're

doing something right. That Internet we had, we had, we had, yeah at Lisa keeps sitting that same chair, and we got Missy or Eve, Missy a Sap, Rocky or Travis Y. I'm riding I'm right with Rocky MTV raps or Rap City MTV raps because they came back and my boy considered as doing it. Okay, lynsa yaga Offendi. I knew that question. I know that answer. Joe Button's or million dollars worth a game? Oh fuck with million dollars worth

of game? All right? And you know people don't know I book Floyd Mayweather for this ship, like people don't be knowing what I'd be doing behind the scenes. They just think I'm keeps, you know, and they had a great show with him. So shout to them them up Carbones or Problem one twelve, be careful, you know, shot, No listen, I know Carbone is your spotty and I do want it. I feel like you're going and I do, and I do want to go there tonight because it's

a nigger in there. I'm trying to date. Okay, listen, I have no problem dating the server. Y'all got a problem with the service, and that's on y'all. Okay, look um, I got shot, probably one. You have always take care of me though I haven't been there. No Miles the owner. Okay, sorry, my bad. Shout to Derek to there's the homie. Okay, I want to go to carbona night. Okay, we're gonna pull up Rihanna, Rihanna, don't care. Don't say Beyonce, Rihanna.

It was Beyonce. I love Beyonce, but Rihanna, why because I love Beyonce, but she's never gonna fuck with me the way Rihanna does on some real like genuine just I love you and I wanna know you. You smoke blunts with men before smoke blunts with her, But I would smoke blunts, And I told Rihanna, she's the only one that to make me go back. Actually, I had a three something with a nigga and the girl the other day, which was kind of weird, but I would,

I would. I don't be ready for nothing. I would like some about Rihanna and this, and I tell her this too, and we'll be talking about it as probably don't want you around as loves me. But the way you're talking about now, I don't know. I ain't gonna lie like I'll fight that nigga. Now, I love Rocky, I really love I love both of me and I love them together. And honestly I said to them like like I'm so happy for both of them. But the thing about RhE is um she got she got b

D like she really is. Like she's beautiful and she smells good and she's delicate as a woman, but she really like I don't know. I I told her, like you like a nigger to me. So because she smoked blunts, She's like, smoke blunt. You gotta be like a little funked up in the head, she called. She say that as I'm smoking a blunt. Yeah, yeah, she's I don't know she you met her, I've never met. I've met the early we we I met. What was her song DJ that long? Yeah? It was. What I love about

her is she's she everything bro like Rocky. I'll tell you, I'll tell you. They get up. It was her and Tiana Tellor and that night Tiana Tellor was the big was the big girl. Someone else said this party too, about this party, and I told him I was dead but it was a def jam party and Tiana Tellor was the headliner and people were looking over we read it was crazy Typer sounds. Where was Rihanna? I think Syper said, Sound said on this show, shout to Tanna

until I love her too, And it was amazing. This is the last one. Oh, I can't drink no more because I'm listen the last one. This is actually it's not really a trick question. It's actually not. It's not. It's actually everyone thinks it's a trick question. But it's not loyalty or respect. Damn um. You know what. Loyalty is important to me, bro, because I've been burned recently. I just got robbed, not robbed at gump point, but

like somebody stole from me on my house. And I think loyalty is important and it's hard, and and as I'm navigating through this business and like now that everything is up and the money is crazy, I'm like I'm like trying to catch up with it all. Like I find myself trying to catch up with it all, and the people around me keep me grounded. I travel with the same people, I have the same people in my house. My employees have been with me from the beginning for

the most part. Yeah, loyalty. I think loyal too, because respect what is that? Like niggas don't really respect nigga's nowadays, it's like what can I get from you? What can you get from me? It's this transactional thing going on, when really, if I funk with you, I literally wholeheartedly funk with you, Like just calling Cardi right now, like I want to see her here and I'm going to make sure that I get her here because we all win.

And when she told me the other day, when I told I was doing your show, and she said, yo, I don't I don't know if they funk with me, Like I'm like your NOI is like the nicest And by the way, shout out to Nori's wife, can we get the show sponsored by the Juice bart part of this part of the show, because by the way, speak speaking to the other day the other day, you hung out with me. Thank you. By the way, thank Nori. Is the noise the setup, bro, because the James Crews.

But you said something to me that I didn't actually notice. You said, man, you got all these rappers around here, right, And what I didn't notice is that's like who I actually be around. Have you ever like been in a situation where no James crew says, come over to this this, uh, this address with Nori right now, I'm like, okay, cool, I'm going to the juice bar. Oh ship, I'm gonna put my little workout outfit and the juice is great. I pulled up this Russell Salmons ben Zeno fucking job room.

I'm like, yo, this is source of awards about to get shot. Uh, I'm not about to stay here like no, like i'd be hearing follow alert shots of Robin pulled up like you like. But it was so cool around me. I'm a different type of the thing I love about you and what I and I hope let me give you a flyer is real quick because you know, I hope you realize like how important you are to the culture and that you you are an icon and people

respect you. And when I look at what you built at the table of the y'all built and the table that you're giving the people to be heard. Because I sat in the room with Kanye and Big Sean talking about this show, and I watched the conversation happened about both interviews that that they had here and how they both loved each other and respect each other. And Kanye said,

I don't take back nothing. I said, you know, I don't take back nothing, I said, and and and Big Sean was giving him his flowers and having the conversation about all the things that were important, but that all came to a head on this show. So I want to give you your flowers too, because that's the way that is to that go hold on, hold on, because you definitely just lost on. So you was at that, so text me. You know, all he did was texta address. You know this is what you and you got in

comment I'm not working with either one of you. And I told him I was coming up, and he just did an exclamation, I'm not with one because y'all are set up both love this ship. Wait, and I'm gonna tell you there is an intersection with me and him, and that's why I think I relate to him so much because both of us have been counted out and don't give a funk. But this is what I would say about both YouTube. Y'all to be creating situations that

you don't tell nobody what they're walking into. But they're going to be important situations and you're gonna be all right, and you're gonna be all right. So the hold on, let's describe this big Sean. So he sent you an address. So he texted me an address, and I said, I got friends of myus because you know, it's later at night.

I was tired, and I didn't really want to go, but because you know you can, I just said, all the haters out there that don't like Kanye West, he's sucking Kanye West like he is fucking He is an important part of our culture's fabric. And if you look at this documentary, you respect the fact that who he was back then, he knew he was as big as she was. Jesus that parable when she said the giant doesn't see himself and said, you know you can be the air and on the flap floor at the same

time that she summed up my whole life. And when we went to the we went to the premier the other day, and when I saw his mother and him talking and how he behaved in front of how he was, how he's shrunk in front of her. I was like, Yo, that's that missing peace. That's why everybody online attacking me saying, oh, you signed with him? He is? He is? He does. I'm not gonna beat the nigger y'all want me to be. I'm not gonna be the tool to destroy him the way that you want me to. Because I see him

in the proximity changes my perception. I'm a little closer to him than all of you, so I see him differently. If you don't want to receive him that way, then you're everybody that don't want to receive me that way. But but back to this situation. He texts me an address, so I pull up with my friends and uh, it's a lot of rappers. It's fibio whack game, Marilyn Manson, It's a lot going on in look, it's revolved strong factor. But you spell it f I though, well, but he's

a nice guy too. Yeah, he's still on the street. So I'm keep it. But so far you're the guy behind me laughing like what I do know? So so French Mont. Okay, so I get there this is also the source of awards, by the way, right, So mine, no, no, no, because I've been shot before, like I had PTS in You're like, I've been shot, like laying on the ground shot like all these people time. I'll take a bullet for you, nigga. No, you do not want to do that,

you know what I mean? Like I took one for nigga and that nigga should have got it and that's my brother. Okay, no, so no, so listen, so listen go. So so I pull up and it's clearly like Source of Wars two thousand twenties two, right, and like, and I usually have my gun on me because I'm a concealed weapons holder. I got a license for it, and I followed the law, by the way, anybody not mad mad at me about this interview? Um, I do call the police because I'm not in the streets. Yeah I'm not.

I think I got the FBI here and the same tip. But anyway, all right, So so I get there, right, and so they're like, yeah, he wants to see you. I'm like, okay, So I walk in the back and

I walk in this room. They opened the door and the lights are down and it's pushed your tea French Montana, Big Sean and Yeah and me, and I'm like, I don't, I don't, just I don't need to be here whatever y'all for Niggers is talking about like I don't want to know, you know what I mean, because because part of me is like celebrities get uncomfortable thinking I'm gonna spill their teeth. But Yeah is bringing me in like fun that we're not doing it behind this since we're

doing it in your face. I'm like, Yo, this is a different movement. I'm with it, let's go. But I love the fact that these two black men who clearly are both successful, who have a respect from one another, who were honest and purely transparent on this show, We're able to get it off but then come back together and have a respectful conversation and and Kanye looked at him and he said, I don't take back ship I said about you. Everything I said, I mean it, and

Big Sean said and everything I said I mean. But I wanted to get to a place of healing and they and they did it in a respectful way, but a very serious and honest way. And then we went and had drinks and um, everything was cool. That's dope, that's I'm glad they worked. But look at what this show was doing back every day because I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm gonna be honest with you when yeah, like like it's like your interview. I'll see how you

describe your interview. You just called me. It was like on the Thursday, and it's like, yo, can we feel you know, you change it every time the day it was a Saturday and we didn't know. It was like just because I feel a m It was like, alright, cool act we had it all together. You look at these niggs. Didn't gonna work out like that was the earliest drinks, the earliest drink. No, No, Timberland seven in the morning Sunday morning. First of all, we don't do

Sunday morning. Could Timerland and Swiss? That was an early one to yeah, yeah, can we say something yeah about this seven am? Yeah. I loved the earlier in the morning. This guy he texts out five in the morning every Now I'm earlier in the morning to do. I'm so anyway, I don't have it never anymore. I have to communicate, you know, I got you I got you. I got so let me just tell you something. Let me tell you.

Let me tell you what you taught me. Being that we talked about this is the best thing he taught. What's freedom? Like, you know, you got this money and you could do what the funk you want and you could buy what the funk you want. I thought that was freedom. Freedom really is doing what the funk you want, when the funk you want, and how the funk you want to do it. Like he was literally just hanging out and he would just be like, y'are going there? Can I come? And I'm like, don't you gotta go

on a private jet? Like like don't you gotta go fly away? And he'll just do whatever we were doing. And that ship, to me, was was something that I didn't know. I didn't understand. It's empowering. Yeah, I didn't understand freedom. So that's why when you see him in Believe with Shine and like I could literally tell you that that must have happened like twenty minutes before, like let's just go to Believes and he was just like fuck it, I'm in and just went like to me,

that was the real what you said? That was? That was what was that was was pure about DMX two because DMX had freedom like DMX would just go. So that's the beautiful thing that he taught me. And let me add to this. So when we were talking about Black Future Month, because it's Black History Month now, right, and I think the thing that people don't understand about, which I'm sure you guys do because you sat with him, right, is he thinks very abstract. It's not linear. It's very

like he sees. It's multiple, multiple thought patterns. And he's ahead of our time, right. So, and I'm gonna give him his credit as a genius. But one thing that he said to me is he said, Black History Month reminds us all the time. Every year. This is the month they remind us about the lynchings and slaver and what we're doing to invest in the future. Let's do Black Future, mother. We're not going to discard the past, but we need to focus on the future. And so

I'm talking to Hi about this. I'm like, yo, you know what, I love this narrative so much. We gotta get all the people in the room. He said, what you want to do, I said, let's you the Black Future Brunch. I'll bring in the fifty of the of the most powerful people in media that look like us, that tell our stories, from Vogue to a Vanity Fair to Shade Room to Forbes and Hollywood un and let's billboard, let's host them. He didn't want to do it in two weeks, he didn't want to do it in any

said let's do it. This is a sense of urgency with him. I'm like, what freedom. But but but then I'm like, okay, money, freedom. So I put us all together and we have this amazing event and he sits at the table when he hears everybody out, and he shares his perspective, and we have this powerful exchange that's turned into a movement that I hope, hope hoping you guys have become a part of. And you also said something, uh, and recently you said that there's a lot of things

that he does that you don't agree with. Of course, I'm never gonna support Trump. I'm never gonna publicly support Trump. There's nothing Trump can do. I don't give a fuck again, no respect. If Jesus came down and said the only way into the gates of heaven is if you hang with Trump, I'm sorry I'm gonna go to hell. I've been burning my whole life not I'm not clammitiate. I only had that twice. I'm gonna be fine, be fine.

I'm not fucking with Trump. But I also know that I've had an interview with with Kanye where he's apologized for the red hat. So I've seen both sides of it. Right Um. By the way, I'm not a Biden. I don't Biden in them right now. I mean, what are they doing for I mean, I mean, we're passing all these bills. Where's the anti lynching bill? I mean, there's no anti Lenchener. But anyway, uh No. But what I like about Yeah is that he really is what he

says he does. I say to him, Yo, we need to do X Y D. Put me in the text of the president of Adidas. Put me in the text with the president of Gap, put me in the text with people to find out how they're spending money in our community, with our media companies, to tell our stories. And I just feel like he's one of the very few people at his level who when he said you're gonna do something, he actually doesn't. I'm taking a shot

for that. I'm taking my eyes have got low. I'm just gonna okay, but you might want to take these glasses off for this one, okay, because this show was a pierced set up because not a drinking, not the m good at Japanese whiskey. I wanted to take a shot with James cous at some point he's gonna come back shout to jams. But the Melissa four situations is it a situation? Is I'm gonna the reason why? Now. I love Melissa enough to pay attention to every word,

so I want to be very clear. I don't see it as a situation and I don't want to situation because I had a certain level of love for her that I've never given to a lot of people. I don't. Latifa has gotten it, she's gotten it, Cardi has it when it comes, and Marianna has it. But like in terms of industry females, there's not a lot that have got Claudia and Jordan's had it at one point, Uh, Melissa was like I loved her a lot, you know, I cared about her a lot as a friend. We're

no longer friends, but that's okay. That was her choice. I just know it is what it is is working together. You got this show show was we lit? She gets into this car accident, she doesn't return to work, but she's outside outside outside what's outside of me? You know what outside mean? She was outside like she was coming out, she was going to clubs or certain things were saying this eustside yeah yeah, yeah yeah, but saying she is saying that she wasn't. I'm asking this is the room on.

This is not Norma's news, this is not drinks should be a segment, But is that what happened? Because you guys got this show's popping and then this accident does happen in my corrector, So kind of back up a little bit, just because I want to be very respectful

of the situation, because there's a history here, right. Uh. Melissa and I became friends a long time ago, and just as friends, I would go to her house is when she was living in New York, and she uh welcome me into her life through a third party, and I just loved how she was. Just she seemed like a real chick, you know, sexy, funny, smartest, beautiful, all those things and fun. I didn't really know about all that, but I found out later, um, and that didn't matter

to me, but like, but like she was cool. And then to the industry, to hip hop, she was most Afford you know whatever, and I know who she was, but we be I became friends with the person, not not the video girl. Like I don't given about the video girl. I don't care about you know, I know all the video girls don't care about that. I don't care about their occupation. I care about people. So we we built a friendship, and our relationship was so good that when we would talk, it would be hilarious that

I was like, Yo, this is funny. Ship. So when I got in love and hip hop and needed to create a platform where people could see me because I feel like love and hip hop will literally create an image of you that may not be or do things in a way that you don't agree with someone like y'all. Need to create a platform of my own where people can see what the funk I am because I'm much more than this show. Once I did that, I was

I came up with the idea. I was like, yo, I gotta have Melissa Afford on it, because the way we talk, it's just no pressure, it's natural, Like we don't need notes, we don't need we don't need production. We just need to turn on the mic and talk. And so when I called her, she had just moved back to l A. She had just came through the lawsuit with Bravo and where she would hit in the head, and she got to check and she didn't have nothing else going on. Keeping one thousand and I didn't have

nothing else going on. Love and hip hop and love and hip hop don't pay ship. So I was like, Okay, let's do this podcast. We don't know how we're gonna get the money, but we're gonna start a podcast. Let's just talk our ship. And we did, and the show just took off in a way that we had never imagined. So while the show took off, we were also trying to figure out how to make money because we weren't making money doing this show we were doing on Dash DJ skiing them don't pay no money, but they give

you free infrastructure. So I foke with them. Yeah, So I started bringing my guests in and we became the biggest show on Dash when we started like getting crazy numbers online. So I built Hollywood Online. Now here's where the real problem started. I own Hollywood on knocked On this show, she said she was the most famous person when she came on the podcast. She's the same person on the same podcast that said fame as a drug, so she must have smoked something before she came and

talked to her ship here. I don't give a funk about fame. Give me the fucking money. All I want is sucking money. If I walked down the street right now and the nigga don't know me, I don't care. But guess what that motherfucking cash app that PayPal and then wires happened all day every day. I got a million dollars last week, one wire. So I don't care about fame. I don't care about if people notice in me.

Like that ship. She says she don't care about it, but she really does, especially when you were hot in the nineties, but you're not hot right now. We live in the Amber Rose, in the Karuci world. It's different. You got the the Ris and the different girls online, the Jada way. That's who are sucking up the internet the way she used to suck up videos. And I know that that's probably something she gotta deal with. I've never publicly disrespected. I'm not going to disrespect her today.

But I wanted to add context because the thing I consciously don't do is talk about her in public, because that's a that's like, that's like my neighbor in Apartment thirty two. We don't live next to each other no more, so why are we even talking about each other? I went to expect I did bring you up. You know what you did, because you did. But it was a couple of things that happened. And I watched that video probably fifty times, because I'm very much of it. I'm

very I look at No. Fifty, he's as fifty. I can tell you that the point of your video, I think started at the fifty point mark in your video. I had I had my team prop it and give me just that. There was a couple of nuances that I saw. First of all, you messy as hell. You saw Mr Green, Mr Green, Mr Green video right there, the Dominican. That was at the end of all my part. I was focused on myfice. She was a couple of

things that happened. No, we're not gonna blame it on the alcohol, because last week I was drunk and got on the mic and was and Little Kim was at my party, and I was talking a lot of ship on that mic that I saw a post online. But I meant everything I said, because when you drunk, that's when you tell the truth. I gave. This should get you courage. It. I got it like popping another bottle. Goddamn No, But let me say this finish. But let me say this, and let me and let me say this.

And I want to preface it with I have I have a ton of respect for what Melissa Ford did as a contributor to my movement, to my journey. She's been a part of that. That's She's gonna always be a part of that history. Was at the beginning of Hollywood Unlocked. No, and that's the problem. I started Hollywood Unlock from an Instagram and the I two thousand and fifteen in an Instagram in in in a in a in a studio apartment where I had an idea of what Hollywood Alot could be. What I had an idea

what the space needed. And I launched that with no idea where the funk it was gonna go. I call him on. I got on love and hip hop. I did a lot of ship to get my brand out there. The brand was already brand was so lit a five. Melissa was a caveat to that. But when she came here, she she made it seem like because she was the most famous person that meant something. Fame don't mean ship because she wasn't more famous than everybody we interview. She

never booked a guest, she never paid for production. She showed up sometimes unprepared and did her job and got her flowers the way she was supposed to. You know what I mean? All the ship she so anyway, let me back up when I saw her on the show, speak on me and the show. There's a lot of ships she left out her in the co host when you manage a show, when you own a show, it's

not just what you see on the video. It's what you don't see right production, some people not showing up, co host getting charges, co host doing it was all types of ship happened on my show that I gotta keep front facing. I gotta be like, yo, it's Hollywood unlocked them Jasonly, Yo, what's so We interviewing so and so today, But you don't know behind the scenes. It's all types of certain so much circus ship going on right, that I'm balancing to grown adults who got their own

ship going on. That's impacting my show, that's impacting my brand. One thing that I'm focused on that I'm always be loyal to is I'm focused on quality over quantity. Who was my quality based followership? And how do I keep feeding them ship? If I have a hundred thousand fans who buy a forty dollar T shirt, that's forty dollars

times a hundred thousand. You could do the math right, stay with you because everybody online don't matter m Everybody watching this interview, they're gonna matter in terms of the click contribution and the comic contribution, but ultimately what they say don't matter to me because you're not stopping my

bank account. With Melissa, when we got together, you know, I really felt like we had something powerful, But I really felt like she didn't see the long term opportunity good we got, meaning that once we got the show, I told her, We're gonna get radio, We're gonna get TV. It's gonna be a talk show, it's gonna it's gonna be all of those things just got put in the work. Floyd Mayweather was one of the early people to get on in sponsor the show. That's the podcast, correct, that's

the podcast. That's when we didn't know how to make the money because he and them didn't have no Yeah, we had Remember when we started Drink Chance. I had a dash radio show before, so you know, that's when we recorded the first Drink Chance. So you know what it is. There's no money. There's no money, but there's

a platform. And so we knew that. So Floyd started supporting the show, giving her money and me money, supporting us be building this thing because he believed in After we interviewed him, and then long story short, Hollywood on a lot kind of took off. I went on wilding out. I went on loving hip hop. I started getting featured the headline in all of the pickup, the headline and all of the pickup, whether it was Vogue, Vanity Fair, Teams or whatever was Jason Lee, Jason Lee, Jason Lee.

And I don't know how Beyonce feels with Kelly and them girls. I'm just Jason. I show up and do what the trying to say. Your show was like destiny. I'm just saying that Michelle don't come to work Beyonce not gonna give a funk. The fans still gonna come because y'all are definitely child I'm Beyonce, and I'm not even trying to be shady. I booked the guests, I shoot the guests, I lead all the ship to make it go viral. I'm the person that puts senses to

all the blogs. I handle all the press. I'm sucking Beyonce, and that's what it is. And I've never said that because and I owned the brand. When she got into a car accident, I think her for her shot. First of all, shout out to Money Love. I love Money Love Money. I was so disappointed in you because I only funk with Money because of Latifa, because that's my girl. Like I've known Latifa since I was fifteen, forty four years I'm about to be forty five. Monty Love has

always been sweet to me. I always been nice for her. I thought she was a little she was she was she was, I know she she was Melissa's sidekicking that interview, and I felt like she needed to. There was a little shady ship. I just sorry. I've been drinking, y'all, so blame no, no, no, no, no, no, I was

watching the show. I was watching the show when you asked her about Hollywood Unlock, and Money was like, oh you, And then she was like they had already had a conversation with each other about me, to not talk about you, to not talk about me or about me whatever, Like I've never talked to Money about Melissa and I have and I know monies. She had my number and I

got her number. But I thought like it was pretty interesting the nice nastiness that was happening during that interview, because you know, although she said I'm liquacious and I am um, I think there were a lot of things left off the table that if she was going to actually speak on the relationships, she should have spoke to like through it. Let's one through real quick. If you work at McDonald's and you get in a car accident, you do not get to take a year off. That's

number one. But I gave her all the time. There was an open ended like do whatever now, mind you we serve an audience. If you serve French fries at McDonald's, your audience pulls up every day to that window one and fries you can't They don't give a fun and then fries better have salt on them and they better taste the way the fries's tastes the last time, because or you'll lose a loyal customer. So let's get to

the point. She did not come back to work. When I think about Hollywood on Lock, she didn't come back for such a long time. That wasn't even an issue for me. It was the issue that when she came back, she had this revelation that she didn't own Hollywood on Locks. Because this rumored that she didn't, she wasn't coming in saying that she was her she was training with Hollywood.

He well, she was doing a lot of things, but I wasn't judging her healing process because I was giving her the latitude to do what she needed to do to heal. And I was making a lot of excuses for people seeing things online where she was out and about, But then also on the show that she was absent from going to Drake parties and she like that doing whatever she chose to do in her social work when

I hit it now, but but it was that. But it was also the fact that I think that she just really took issue with the fact that I own Hollywood unlocked, and she felt that she had contributed so much that she should have owned some of it. And I'm sorry, No, I owned ninety seven percent now because I put working and it raised a little money to keep its advocate. So a little bit for people who did think that she started with you would a percentage

of ownership. You know, you're giving her a tiny percentage ownership with that would have rectified the situation and kept the show a live as the fans originally fell in love with it. Well, the show is still alive, and the show is thriving, doing a lot better than it was then, and the fans are still there. And those that left we don't care, and those that are new, we love them. But you're lucky. But like, like, like Joe,

what's Unfortunately he's not the best businessman. You know, I'm a businessman and I'm not emotional driven by emotion like Melissa's showing up or not showing up. Beyonce is still

gonna get on stage when Michelle falls down. She donna look at her like bitch by She's gonna keep damching because Beyonce ain't looking in the review mirrorge, she ain't looking to the side Beyonce has focused on Beyonce and Jays in the background, saying go bit like, let's keep it one thousand right, Like I'm not sitting here where I sit worried about what nobody's doing. If you're my co host and you want to act up by bitch

because I'm not heard any of them. They said. With the Beyonce A Podcast, we still got a TV show out of it. We still got nashally syndicated. We launched in fifty two markets on I heard in the show that I owned and grew to seventy two markets in the deal that I walked away from because I felt like, y'all niggas don't have enough money over there for me, and so ultimately she let her ego get involved. Now

here's the deal. She came back. The only reason she came back is because I brought April Jones in and we kept it moving and we got the show on Loving Hip Hop. It was like, yeah, Jones is the girl who was naming Dr Dre, who has made by Omara, who was sucking fist, who was not what t dis You know what I mean, It's hard to follow saying I I know exactly you told all right. So, so when I brought April Jones and she hit me back like I missed the show, I'm like, well, the show

misses you too. And I was tired of April because she had no perspective, she had no point of view, and she was tired. She was lazy, she was like irrelevant, right, So I was like, yeo, Melissa, at least she good talk. So I said, Okay, cool, fun, let's work it out. We're gonna working into my We're gonna working into my storyline on love and hip I'm gonna fire April and camera. I'm gonna bring you back. And I didn't tell April that's why she didn't like me. But whatever it's she did, like,

deal with it. You're crying the trailer and I'm gonna be Okay. Beyonce never thought about Michelle crying? Are you crazy? I'm Beyonce. Bit So let's talk about the love of hip hop? Wait wait, wait, So I bring Melissa four back from the dead. I bring her back. She's back on the show. Fans are happy. It's a storyline on love and hip hop. They don't give her no lines up because showing no contract. It's my contract. It's my show. She's the more famous one, but I'm the more popping

of the time. So then I bring her back on the show, and it's not the same. See chemistry. When the chemistry off, I don't give a funk what these cameras don't care how much alcohol y'all got went. Once the chemistry is lost, it's done. The chemistry was gone. We were just little. It was all about businesses from that point on, because I felt like she was back because she needed the show, not because she wanted the show. And we both were there because we wanted the show originally.

That's why I was special, and she was amazing when she was there first. When she came back, she blame it on the the the accident, but I really think it's because I didn't push that go fund me account that her and Chlodie and Jordan came up with. I don't push folks go fund me account. So you know why, now hold on listen, that's what if you speak on me, you opened up the door for me to talk about it. When Melissa was in a car accident, I was on stage whiling out. I'm sorry. I have a job, I

have an obligation to MTV. I cannot walk off the stage. But I did walk off, and I called my team and I said, Melissa was in an accident. Get to the hospital. I called my assistant, order her flowers right now, check in with her, let her know I will check on her as soon as I get off the stage. But I'm at work and I cannot walk off. We're in the middle of live taping, Okay, So I sent I sent my friend to her bedside to spend the

night with her to make sure she was good. And I sent flowers and I called our calls to sent them. So I did all of that from Atlanta, where I was taping, whiling out when I got off and I called, I cannot get in touch with The next thing I get is there's a go fund me account for a hundred thousand dollars. I'm like, I don't even share go fund me accounts as a practice, because if I share yoga fund me account when your daughter needs it, when

your family personally, I need to share everybody. You can't let everybody's fund And it's hard because then I'm asking people to pay money for my fans. I love my fans. I don't use my fans. I don't even even ask them to go fund me. Just buy whatever you want to buy and show up when you want. But if you don't, it's your choice, you know what I mean. So, like Claudia launched this go fund me account trying to help her for a hundred thousand dollars. I don't even

know what the bill amount is. I ain't see no bill. I'm sorry, I cannot do it, but I'll give you money. She got mad that I didn't supposed to go fund me account and let her. I dare her to tweet and post because there's so many texts and emails that they don't. I'm the receive King Beyonce. Don't do it and don't speak on me no more anybody out there speaking on me. I'm telling right now, you open up the floodgates for me coming for you. So once I didn't post to go fund me account, I didn't ask.

It was not that Nori did this because because because it's to be clear, let's be clear, obviously when you google her name, um y'all story pops up. So it was to be fair, I didn't actually know anything, but continue, But why not have her on your platform now, and I'm gonna get to I'm gonna get to I'm gonna get to it. I'm gone to it. He's saying that he won't have it on. No, no, no, I'm just bringing up he can come on. But let me let me lay it all out, because my fans have never

heard this. Please, and they're listening right now because they've never heard it. They don't even know why Jevoni left. But that's in my next book, How I Stopped giving a start of winning. It's almost done. Um, that's the name of the book at dot com. How I Stopped giving a funk it started winning. Okay, So so when I don't post the go fund me, it gets really weird.

It's like, Jason don't support Jason's not supporting. Jason got money, Jason will help you, but Jason's not posting to go fund me for a hundred thousand dollars when I don't know the whole situation. She wouldn't get on the phone with me. Nobody would explain it to me. I didn't talk to quite, so I did not support the go fund me account. The relationship was never the same after that. Once she came on the show. The energy was so weird that me trying to get something out of a

guest was it felt like work. Nothing that I do right now feels like work. This doesn't feel like work. I'm having a great time. I'm enjoying myself. We are having a great time having to keep continuing. So she comes back. So she comes back, and I fired April boom if works in my storyline, love hip hops or whatever. Then her mother dies, her mother gets sick, and the or I don't remember she died, or she got sick, and like again, like I'm in both situations. I can't

be there. I can't say, yo, you got a job to do. I'm just like, damn now, the regular worker out there right now working at the hospital. I used to represent healthcare workers, right, you got what's called fml A. You don't have a lot of time to leave when your parents died. You maybe got a week, maybe ten days if your contract is good, But you ain't got a year. My nigga a year like a year. I gave her all the time she needed, and the way she thanked me was an email saying, I'm leaving the

show because my life is going to different directions. Maybe it was the inheritance money. I don't know, but you you got your little money and now you're good and you don't need to work. She and followed me on Instagram. She blocked my staff, real fucking petty, We wasn't even checking for you. What were gonna do? How many backshots that we gotta check for on your fucking Instagram? But I looked at it like, Okay, cool, you want to be petty with me when you know how to play damn.

But if I say anything, I'm the big bad wolf sucking with another black woman. So I left it alone until she came here, and I was looking at like yo. Even though she didn't really attack me here, she she did a little nice nastiness to let it be known that there was some tea that she didn't really want to talk about. And that's her m O. I'm a stray shooter and she's very much a thrower rocket high

your hander. So what I would love her to do is come up here and talk about how she and I had to carry the show when our third co host did some foul ship that drove us to a point where we had to buckle up, where she knows how much of a hit I took online from the fans when they were doing personal ship in their lives

when it was causing complications for me. The other thing that happened to that I thought was very interesting was when she did come back, she created her own podcast because she felt like she should have own Hollywood and was since she didn't. She launched I'm Here for the Food, and she had two co hosts that were great. She fired one because she disagreed with her, because that's what happens in her world. If you don't agree with her, you gotta go. Look at every girl she ever competed

with gotta go. Then the second girl blew to Losema she didn't really care for her because the fans loved her. See on my show, it's not about who the fans love the most. I just want them to love the show. You can hate me. Every single comment can be like go fuck fuck you, nigga sucker. I'll be like, okay, after work, I don't care. I'm Beyonce. But if you love the show, we win. We all win. If you're

the most popular, you win, the show wins. She she didn't like the girl, so when she sent me a note to quit, and I had to find a replacement. All my fans were saying, your color is all you do is love models, pretty girls. We don't see nothing that looks like us on your show. We need somebody

that holds us down. And her co host, who she didn't like, was blue to Losema a writer from the Grill, a journalist with opinion, smartest, fuck thick, black chocolate girl who stood firm and what she believed when it came to colorism and fighting the people who pushed that agenda. So she was the natural person for me to talk to. She was the first person I called, She had interviewed me, and she was the only option to replace Melissa Ford.

She thought, you hired the girl I don't like, some real medio type ship because she don't think like a boss like I do. She thinks like Michelle. So ultimately the show kept going, and then and then bad We get the nastist you caught that Yeah, yeah, those bars thats bars I called it. Then we got the Nashi syndicated show partnership I heard where I owned the show Billboard Boom Billboard is talking about billboard dot com. Then Boom Fox sold TV show. Money is crazy. We're getting

crazy money. We all million millions of cars every weekend, all of them too. And where you at sitting at home pushing fucking photos on Instagram that you took with my photographer. She had a problem finding her own life, and when she quit, I hopefully believe that she found her own life. And when she unfollowed me, I was like, thank you Lord, you have set me free. I can on follow her back. And she was gone, and the and it's closed. They asked me about it every time

I go somewhere. This is the last one talk about Meista for because as far as I'm concerned, she's as dead as a lot of the careers we've spoken about tonight, I am not speaking on her no more because she's irrelevant in my world. But the pettiness needs to stop, and I'm telling her, like, just go ahead and be happy, like find you and Nigga have a kid and just like v you, but like leave me and Hollywood unlocked

alone because we are not thinking about you. She got awkward, so not really, it just got honest because see the things she didn't do was be honest. Here she could have like the whole harmony love thing mony money said, I'm flying back and forth to l A. She gonna keep draining your bank account. The fly to her, I bet you she don't fly to you. She got mad at Floyd Mayweather because he didn't send her no money

after the accident. Floyd didn't know her that You're not one of Floyd's bitches, So why was he supposed to do bring you He's supposed to bring you money in the birking, It wasn't his job. So I think the thing that we have to just be honest about here is that there was a conversation that wasn't fully had when she was here, and I wish you would have had it. I would love to have it with her, but she did and followed me, so I don't even know where she had this these days, you know. Okay,

So moving on. I've got a couple more questions, like moving on, But let me give you what's a great groupie story where you got grouping like with the celebrity whatever, whatever you want. I don't want to talk about group because I had one, but it was it was a problem, and I just let's just move on. No groupy story. Damn you you already calculated it in you know, yeah, you have to. I have to think a step ahead. No, you know, like, I'm not really into the groupie thing.

Like if a person I meet starts talking about celebrity, then I'm off it because honestly, I'm just Jason. Like I literally the only reason where the jewelry to day is because I know Peter Rooseberg broke asked, was sitting at home watching this in view? I had to let that nigga know, let that nigga know I wrote it. I wrote I've read this ship for that suburban asked, nigga, who's a part of our culture? I don't believe you man for you, Peter. So this is a question we

asked all of our guests. I'm sorry, I'm not drinking no more, especially male guess asked, do you ask do I I ain't asked last night? No, no, no, yes, listen, listen, yeah I don take yes, yes, yes I too now now now yes, you know the thing you need to start asking these males that come on your shows that they get their asks. Eight And because that's that's how I ain't gonna say his name to Daddy had his legs up and he's into that he's eating. You know,

it's crazy. I'm gay and I don't even be having my legs in the air, like I feel really gay when that happened, Oh my god, I'd be like, yo, it's really no. There are there is places. Listen, listen, listen, there is there is a barometer. Now you're gonna have gay people mad at you don't go to the bathroom right now. I don't give a funk about gay Let

me tell about gay people. Oh my god, No, here's the here's here's the funk with the LGBT community, because I'm somewhere in the spectrum right But like, can we get to a place going back to canceling council? Could we go back to a place where we just say reckless ship and don't give a fun of course, like comedians need to be comedians. Dave Chappelle is one of the most brilliant people in the fucking world, and when he did his last stand up, I did not understand

why my community was mad. I feel like we're just looking for propaganda to start a fight, right and I feel like we got to get to a place where hip hop should be able to talk his ship can meet comedy should be able to talk to ship without us feeling they're saying this generational though, like millennials are more sensitive as a sensitive as they couldn't have existed in the nineties. There's no way Eddie Murphy raw like, that's one of the most brilliant companies special I've ever seen.

And I'm gay as hell, Like I'm gay as fucking proud. I'm gonna stand up the first time that someone in that because because there's not there's not a straight nigger in this room threatened by me because you want pussy, you don't want what I want. And if you're straight nigga and you want pussy, because I got brothers who want pussy, They're not worried about what I'm doing. The next person unless they wanted that, I'll give it to him. But like, just at least put your agenda on the table.

Don't play with me in politics, be bad police. And this is a new bottle of eight. I'm not dropping. This is not I'm not getting the baby, yo. Yeah yeah, let me just tell yourself. And this is real And I don't mean like saying like this, but I want to address it. My friends are staying stop drinking. No, no, no, because you know why, if there was a straight man here, you know I would be doing the same thing. So

I can't I appreciate you know what I mean? I got this is the same thing, and you're my friend, so that I'm going. I'm going get you drunk as much as I can, as much as I can, and I don't get myself drunk with with you. You get me too drunk. I didn't seen production problem. Okay, all right, but now this is this is something because when Nikki came out Niki, Yes, I'm sorry, I'm calling him my first name. I ain't that cool. I gotta I gotta get my life together. When Nicki Minaj first came out,

it felt like you was a ball. It felt like he was down with the team somewhere along the way. I don't know if it was personal with you and her or you had just fell in love of Cardis that much what happened where you went from team Manage

to team Bardy and you ain't going back? Okay? Um, first, I was team Little Kim because she came out in an era where I was friends with Queen Latifa but saw a female rapp is one thing, and then you had little Kim com who was just a whole different beasts, you know, And so I became a little Kim fanatic early when Nikki so then this is not when you blog it because this was like a kid continue whatever whatever,

six seventy. Then when Nikki came out, female rap was kind of dormant on radio or mainstream because it was just men dominated. Then when Nikki came out and was like, Yo, the resurgence of female rap, like this, queenland Tifa m c light Yo Yo, Missy Nicki, nick Kim Nicki like Yo, the resurgence of female rap was sexy to me because she was like, she was on these nigga's heads, Nicky got bars. Nicki is a phenomenal artist. She's an icon

in her own right. And I was a fan of her music, and I'm still a fan of her music. Let's be very clear. I still listen to Nicki Minaj. What I did not like about Nikki, as I've said before, is when she fell out with Cardi, she made it a personal thing with with people, with everybody releasing phone numbers. I tried to piece it up with those two because cardis never still to this day talk bad about Nikki. We ain't hating over here. We're trying to keep it moving.

But but it was you were on team Niki. Know what. I was never a bar But let's be those those those people are sick like they they literally they literally are no no, they're literally chemically imbalanced. Si could this chain right here was created from a barb attacking me online in d C when he was like, oh, you're taking a train because I was speaking to Howard University or you're taking a train O gagging and gagging gagging.

I'm like, okay, bitch, I'm gonna tell you gagging. I create a whole show called gagging, but Jay sling and then I got this change just to keep putting it in their face. Right, But what is gagging me? I don't I'm saying gagging. Gagging in our community means like like those different meanings for it. Yes, So like in the Trake commune, that's like a bit stucking on your

dick or something. Right in our community is like oh ship, Like damn, Like I'm surprised this nigga, like he ain't got no money, Like I'm shocked, like I'm shocked, Like that's what it means. Yeah, okay, So with Nikki, I've never hated Niggy. She did an interview, she did her radio ship, and she said that she called me a cocksucker, Like, how my cocksucker when your brother is on his way to prison for sucking like well for doing things with

kids like what like? And I'm a person like I felt like it was a personal attacks that became personal. That's the first and last time that I've ever been unobjective with Hollywood or not, because it literally became a personal thing. It was less about Cardi and her, it

was more about me and her. But I think we're in a place now where she recently reached out, and I'm now in a place in my life where I'm open to a conversation with Nicki Minaj's Nope, privately and publicly though, because it's not gonna be a let's come together and be friends. Because I don't want to be your friend. I will never be her friend because I don't trust her. I don't think she's a girl you

can trust. She's one of those girls who she'll shake your hand, but she got a razor blade in her pocket. You know what I mean. But I'm down to talk to her. But I've seen she's been doing press lately, and whoever she's working with now, they are helping her soften her image where she seems a little bit more relatable. But I don't buy it. I think it's all a game, and I think it's all a facade. And that's why if I do interview her, it has to be a

real conversation. It's not gonna be a radio run where she talked about whatever the fun her song is with a little baby, because I don't care about that. I want to get straight to like, like, no chaser, Let's get to the real ship. And I don't think she'll pull up for that. Let me ask you. Recently, it seems like Perez, Hilton and Kanye has been going on. Yes really yeah, And Perez used to have personally attacked

me without having any yes. Yeah, back in the days, I mean predent no no, no, no, We've got over it. We've big boys. Yeah yeah, but you know this is just a separate thing. But it kind of felt like Perez was kind of like targeting Kanye. Right, what do you feel? What is your respective on that? Okay, and I'm gonna say this because I know I'm going on his podcast soon and he's gonna probably use this clip. You know, I with Perez because Perez was one of the few people that do what I do in my

lane back then. Um, and he's known infamously known for photos where he has the dots and the script. You know, that's what he did. That, that's what he did, that's his thing. He called me a douchebag. I didn't even know what a douche bag meant. That's his thing, he writes on the the thing that the thing that I'm here's the I respect what Press has done and we

have a relationship. Where I'm confused is when I got into a Karen said, well, Perez was the one person, one of two people who called me and said just let that go because it's not even worth it. Like stay focused on what you're doing, because you're doing great, done work. But like with yeah, it's sort of like with mental health being a real thing and you kind

of attacking him from mental health. It's almost like the insensitivity of Press hilt in his back, and maybe that's what he needs to do to continue to keep his thing buzzing. I don't know what his business model is, right, My business model is just stay with the funk, you feel, what the funk you think, and whether it's right or wrong, it's what you're saying think and it's with the times,

because I'm with the times. But I don't know. I know that Yeah has been posting him and then you know, he's invited me on his podcast for the first time.

Some shorts about that, because this is what I feel, like, you know, for me, him being from Miami, him being of Latinos, you believe, I felt like, you know, when he because there was a police support about me having a fight or some dumb ship right just like like almost like ten years ago, twelve years ago, and he just immitted it was like, oh my god, because the kids said that, I said, you don't know who I am,

that this doesn't even sound like me. That's not Yeah, nothing that was written I was there, Yeah, nothing that was written sound like me. So all I felt was like like the you know, because at this time I didn't know about blogs, I didn't know about all this, and all he did was just take whatever the police support, which, by the way, these kids had to say that because afterwards, as they arrested me, police was like, oh, you know, that was Nori, So the kids obviously had to change

their story and say that. And then Perez quoted that as if it was me who did that, and I took it so personal and um, but that's why we have to be responsible when we report the facts right like we don't. That's why that's what that right there is why i'mself frustrated with Peter because not do the same ship they do. The difference is I don't have a booker making me interview somebody. People actually pull up

because they want to funk with me. And I think that the challenge that I have is that people would throw a label on me to try to minimize me or will categorize me because they are threatened by the fact that I'm moving up on their ass and I'm self made, you know what I mean. And so I think with like Perez, you know, I really didn't. I don't know where he's coming from a because it's pretty interesting,

but again it's all proximity. He not close to him, so he's not close to the situation and he's on the outside but still making fund of mental health. I think is laying. I got my own mental health issues. I went through my own battles of depression, you know, especially when going through the process of losing weight. I had to fall in love with myself again. A shout to Tiffany Haddas, who was the person that helped figure that out, and we would yeah, I'll tell me, yeah

she was. Yeah, she was one of the people that helped me fall back in love with myself. So, like, mental health is a real thing, So I don't think it should be joked about. We've never made one joke about mental health or drug addiction never. It's just not something we do. Wow, that's real, ship man, that's real. So it's the last question we're wrapping it out. Sure, how do we fix it with camera? Simbil we understand we don't the next questions that in, No, we don't.

But I will say this is the absolute entire last interview conversation I will ever have about that name. I wish caring the best. Um. I think that although we're not suing her because time the statue of limitations run out, and honestly, chasing her down with the FBI and trying to put her in prison would be a full time job. The industry, in the in the culture knows what she is now. I've talked to heads of labels, heads of organizations who have seen her and seen it all unfold.

I don't need to do any more damage. I want her to live her best life. I know after she went vegan, she had iron issues. Take your iron pills, live the best life you can. Just stay out my motherfucking way. Like, as long as she ain't in my way, I don't care. The next time she get in my way, I'm taking her and anybody all the way the motherfuck out, because that's what Beyonce would do or John Gotti. No. But I mean, I'm just saying, like I'm not looking

I'm not counting nobody's money. I'm not looking at what nobody's doing. Like I'm just not checking for nobody. I'm literally living my best life right now, doing what makes me happy. And and and I'm not saying I'm a victim. I'm not because people can say, oh, well, you write all these stories and you deserve whatever you get. That's fine, But like it's sort of like when you're getting the Floyd ring. In the ring with Floyd, you know, what you're going to and what's gonna happen, And I'm fine

with that. But I don't have a problem with her. I'm not a friend and I don't support her, but um, I definitely don't want to really discuss her. Yo, it's been a pleasure. I'm going to take a shot to get out of here. Let's take a shot one last yeah. Yeah, because listen, man, this is about you, celebrating you. We wanted to give you wait to see this come out first. Openly, you know I'm not the first games, not the first game. I don't think that. List If you pointing out people

want somebody in production, just send me to listen. We don't even want to go down that road. You know. This is one chance to you, bro Yo, side a little man, Jason, take pictures, Take pictures in a couple of drops, and then be good. Hold you see this is fun, us out and I was watching. Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs hosted by Yours truly d J E F and n O R E. Please make sure to follow us on all our socials

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