Episode 286 w/ Ye

win it should be. This is your boy in O R? What up is d j e f N. This is drink Chaps, Yappy our make some No the mea e FN started this show. We always looked at rappers, or we always looked at certain people as superheroes or superman. This guy that standing to the left of me, it's not only a superhero, a superman, a super genius, a super music icon, but he's also a fashion icon. He's also a visionary. He's also a person who speaks things

into an existence. I remember he said, you don't know how sway and we figured out he didn't know how swife. In case you don't know who we're talking about, because we're talking about this is this is gonna be Drink Chaps biggest episode ever. I'm just going ahead and say that. Sorry to anybody else who's ever been on this table in this place, this is gonna be the biggest. In case you don't know what the funk we're talking about, we're talking about the artist formerly known as Kanye. He's

just now yeah, god damn. So so let me get this right. You don't got a last name or first name, just got a name. I don't even know what to say. She is hard just yeah, yeah, yo, yeah, I thank you so much, man, because on the real, the real, I know you don't have to do this. Um, you're at a level in your life where it seems like you're free. She sounds like you just feel like you're you're doing You really showed up with no security, not

have to get security for you. I'm sorry, I just said, I just said, you know, I just can't let you walk around like that because we're gonna kill somebody, somebody focus. I'm just going it out there. I'm just going out so sorry. We left that, we left that UM, like, but how is it like? How is it like? What's what's going on in your life? It's just because I heard you told me on the phone the other day. You said, you don't even You're not even you don't

even have a house. That's how rich you are. You don't even have a house matter right now? How is that? Yeah? You know, I'll restore houses. I'm very into architecture, but I'm just I'm not into the class system where it's like what that's one of the main things they used to control us. I think my whole existance is about not being out of control, but being out of their control, being in control of yourself. So the house is the first thing that they give you that your entire existence.

And I look at it the skyscrapers in New York. I'm like, everybody's in all those buildings, spending that time away from their family working. One of the main things, the main thing is the idea of a house. Security. Yeah, security, because I remember saying, uh saying, I was arguing with this one publicists and I told the person, now, I wasn't gonna have a house, and they fast on me, said, you've done too much in your life. To not have a house, you need to have like so try to

impose was that idea? But you know, my home is just when when my daughter face times me, that's where my that's where my home is. You got land, I'm assuming you have land though. Yeah, and you were standing in Mercedes twelve thou but yeah, okay, but you were staying in the Mercedes Benz arena. What it didn't look like a cell. It looked like a jail cell out there. Yeah, well except for I could come and go. So difference, that's the difference. But yeah, you know, it's this idea

that's monk lifestyle. Like I heard that. It's like trust fund kids. It's kind of on the same wave right now that they're being homeless on purpose. Uh. But I traveled to um to Paris like a couple of weeks ago, and I had to go through Lisbon because you can go through Lisbon without being vaccinated. I only got one of the shots. I'm fascinated I'd come to. I dropped in Lisbon. It's a fifteen hour ride and usually people say why I had to? I got to take this

fifteen hour ride. Something Steven Spielberger told me this. I'm just have shameless names. It's gonna be like a lot of names. I love I love it. Hello, Good continued, So I sitting next to Oprah at this Ralphs Lorenda talking to Steven Spielberg continue across from Hillary Clinton. This is the first time I actually was with her. Good. So the and so I took this fifteen hour ride from Lisbon to Paris. But the thought was I get

to take the ride. The ride was beautiful. So it's just a perspective on life, like when I go through just a different changes in my life and my family. A friend of mine said, are you sad? And when I really thought about it all to look at life like it was a video game, I'm like, you know, every part of it is really let the things that hurt you, the things that you're happy about, the things that uh that push your ego, that that supports your ego,

and things that down your ego. Like I've been saying this like a couple of for a couple of weeks, like ego and anger love to hang out their best friends. Absolutely Ego angle, Yeah, yeah, definitely, so the moment, yeah, they definitely, they definitely blood more and more. You know, you lean into your ego. You know, I wrote the song that for Donda that you know we're gonna bring

out on the bonus album. Uh, that's saying on the deluxe but it said if I let go, if I let go, let God and let go, I gotta let it go. I got and let's go. And it's why he's got this line that makes you think about Miami said lying into the man Driandrian. Actually it had the next line, but I like the and But it's like going to Paris. I get there and I get to the Ritz Hotel and they say they ain't got no rooms, and you know, it's a couple of times I just

had to like pull my mask down. You don't have a room, and I put it, Okay, let me look for a room. That's a different kind of currency. Yeah. The vision of life is not to have money and possessions, is to have relationships and make it to the point where I've done so much for so many people that my money is can't spend anywhere and go to restaurant. They'd be like, yo, your money is no good here. So they start they're charging me for the room. They

gave you a rule. They found a room and then the next day the CEO of Balenciaga came to pick me up, this guy named Cedric that actually I was trying to hire as a CEO. My boy John two to the head an a PC which is basically the French version of Gap, which is the first person, and really that was in a prestigious position to really let me do a collaboration with them, and so we had this a PC collection and sold out back in the

day before Louis Louis Colap. You know what the Louis Clapp was first, that's right, yeah, thank you, thank you for I'm a fan the Louis Clap. I want to I wanna go back to certain things that the Louis thing. But so the CEO of Balenciaga picked me up. Now I came with all I got is just like a little bag that's like my house, and my house changes in size depending on how big my bag is. Like I had this one that was like a laminate size, and that once I got the Apple headphones, they wouldn't

fit in it. So I had to get a bigger house, which end up being talk about a mobile home being end up being this one, right, And I'm so happy that does wear this uh this bag now, so yeah, the people could stop down to men, this is not for fashion. So so I ride to the Blessiaga store with the CEO of Blessiaga and I didn't have a change of underwear. But for what you know, I've done with Valenciaga, especially over the past four months. Guess with my underwear and socks in the being for the next

four days in Paris, Valenciaga underwear for free. And that's when I was sitting there, I was like, yo, this is my vision on life to not even have to have a house and have a place in every single world, every single city, every single country that I could go to and somebody's like you could stay here, you can sleep here, like uh my dog boo. I was like, man, are you in my city? He was like, you in my city? And the first when I saw I was

like Nigga, I was born in Atlanta. I was like, I humble myself, said yes, sir, a bunch of eyes with a bunch of eyes. Uh, and um, he's go. You know I'm now here working on casey, I'm in Houston, but you can stay at my crib and too I know I got a bunch of cribs I can stay at in New York. I know I got a bunch of cribs I can stay at. And you just move around like first it was like y'all seen think about

most stuff. He chased the name that I've seen, and he started moving around, so I would think about how he was moving around, you know, just going through the airport, sometimes standing in line, sometimes not standing in the line, getting the Uber Uber be canceling on me. I'm not gonna say ubers trash now, I'm just saying I'm not gonna lie. You told me that the other day. He said, you said you can calling Uber canceling on you. I don't know. Your father doesn't say I'm saying no, no,

I'm really I really am canceling. I guess. But you don't have four point nine stars. And yeah, I don't even know barely, you know, I barely know how to work in I just got my Apple pay. You know, just man, you just got Apple Let's make some noise for you, pouess, because you really, I'm superhero. I got Apple pay. But that signed to make Apple pay go ahead? Cool? That was all that was that ball that ball. Okay, so have you watched Versus? Yes? Yeah, you know what

I'm going with it. Yeah, would you step into that ring? Absolutely? But I would need about like folk people at to go against me at one time. I need I need producers, need people who made good albums. I need people made radio hits. I need every single Gemini specifically MC, I need every Okay, okay, did you five specially Gemini? Would you like like some Henessey? Would you like a glass? Well?

You know that makes playing with Hennessey is doing to the community, So you know, we know what the people are gonna say. People are gonna say they want yea against who you think that people would think they want to see you against. That's only two people really out there. No, I think it'd be it'd be Drake, right, thank you and Hope. That's Oh I didn't think about that one. I don't think about that, right. No. I like that. I like that you go against Jay No because that's

my boss. I would never go against like that. Answer what you're saying when you and Drake together, who's winning that? I'm winning every situation. That's why I say only ship and who produced it was? Would it be dre but you so wise. That's why I said it got a bit that I need to have like a month long just different categories, different styles. You have a season of your own versus yeah, you At a certain point, I can just be versus myself. It could be this album

against that album. I had to go dark fantasy against well, I don't think anything goes against dark fantasy, but college drop out against the old. Oh yeah, we can do that. You do the old. Yeah, We'll do all like sample drums versus trap drums. We could do all bars versus all different name changes, going against the different eras of Holy Movie. This is exciting ship, But you telling me, I just I just want to for the fast. It's not for me if Swiss come to you, because it's

not about money. With you, I could tell it's not about money, but with Swiss. Timberland, say you and Drake against one another. You're saying you're gonna take it and you're gonna smoke. Yeah, absolutely, Okay, that's but it already happened. He played one of my leak songs and it was better than every other song this year. Because you've been leaked Drake's address. Correct, No, he advertised it when he was building the house. Everyone knows it. It's like a

place in Canada. You go by, you sick, it's a monument. Yeah, every we didn't know that because you know, we were looking people over here. Yeah, you know you can find it. That's how I was able to find it. It's Google a boy, It's on Google Maps. That's my word. You know what made that word? What I will say, I understand that. You know, in all of the back and forth that me and Drake have had, you know, it's

like the life. Life is like the NBA, and people are either on your team or they're on another team, and everybody plays games in different kind of ways, and you can't be mad for somebody went at the end today. This man has sold more records than anybody and part of his technique and basketball people got different techniques. Like I went to uh to the gym with Kobe and

we didn't even really get to play ball. All he did was show me videos of Scottie Pippen, and you know, Scotti Pippen's got a wide wingspan, but he didn't talk about that. He talked about how fast he was moving his feet, and he was like, yo, This is inhuman, right, just inhumane. This is like and he was studying that. He wanted to learn how fast he moved his feet. So when Drake Drake, don't do a dislike outright this song, whereas the head shot, he's gonna set up set it

up like war. You know, I'm like, yeah, when people went to go get Hitler, they didn't go straight for Hitler. They said a fake tanks they said. They said, So he's gonna do stuff like live five blocks down the street from you, DM, every scrept through the light switch that, yeah, he's gonna like go and you know, DM, every single girl in your family, every single girl around your family, everybody, all your niggas, girl, he's gotta So it becomes like,

so you already got that. It's like away games and home games and stuff like football, and this is a professional rap. Well this is the first time we're in a place of like professional rap. So all that there. So if he throws out a bar right here, it might be a bar only what what what said? You and I know what's going on, right, But it's all psychological, right, So it's like what pen what button? Is someone gonna

hit wa wa can you hit him. It's like I was just at the game with J Prince last night and it was talking about how how many below the belts there were, how many this it was, and the whole thing about that record that yeah, you know how you know what it is. I got the perfect I never thought about this tonight. You know what, I bet his ere I bet his here it takes out, you know what I'm saying, because they see what Holy Phil

was doing. They see what he was doing. Typson like telling the refs like, yo, yeah, I see this, don't see this. He's like, Tyson, I'm gonna take this in my own hands. I've never heard, but you may get me. I'm just because it's in front of me. I was like, I was a fight there. We're talking about this. We we've been, you know, discussing doing things together to uh to bring attention to Hoover situation. Um and I actually I got Larry Hoover with introduced myself. I recognized his face.

So at a certain moment, I want to take a moment when you can talk about the exact understand this leader and political prisoner. You know, like when I went to the White House, I said this is me in a different dimension. You know, any one of us that

can organize somebody, they're gonna take us down. They've been taking you know, the leaders and the fathers out of the community and only leave us with the hustler mentality because you ain't got a add that showing you how to save money, and we're property to buy and how to build your own factories. We're gonna be jumping up and down for the idea of like Virgil getting a job for Bernard or No or me getting a job at the Gap or Adidas a lot of times, just

like we always born white, supremacist, racist and homophobic. That's the bottom, that's the baseline. That's another thing. I don't even got the word for it, but it's like a phobia of mental health. That's the thing where people try to write it off. That's like even when I cut my hair like that, I'm like, yo, they're gonna try to theme that at first, And I called it to Brittany.

Now that could be called a yeah, but when I see when I see that, bro, I'm telling you, you know, the declaration of insanity as a form of censorship in control, what the hell you talking about? It doesn't count us. I mean, you know, Feds, Democrats, whatever, they they know who I am. So I was, I was up there like, man, maybe I shouldn't do you know, this interview, because that's

when they're really gonna they're gonna come. You gotta understand what Yeah, yeah, but it's all everything has like a butterfly effect. Kobe died on you know, in Calabasas. You know what I'm saying, on the street where I would drive my kids to school. This video game, this is grant that Fatto is real, you know. So but you know, with me and Drake, we all really on the same team, just even on this planet period. We're on the same team. We we the people. We think it's our opts and

all this stuff. Once we understand and this is I think the job that God actually has for me is for us to all realize that we are playing inside of the same time. That's one thing we all got in common, and we're all in the same place in the Christian calendar at all times. We could be the first civilization to become civil a matter of fact, let me take out the world. Can I hate the world? Can I hate these like between you know, you can't

verd can and should. And if it's like fits, it's like somebody you think it's with you, they're not really with you. They're like a four flag that could just fall any time. Your whole table fall over. Like that's why we have to will these things in fruition. So we say we will be the first civilization to become civil We're still in the dark ages. We attack each other mentally, we go back to the rap stuff. For me and Drake, this is we at World War three.

This is warfare right here. What they do. People can comment on you online that you don't know. You can't come see them. You know what I'm saying, it's a career and create the suicide race is crazy. People's esteem, how you feel about yourself, body dysmorphia, overdoing it with the drip and did it all that. So I'm about, like Robin Hood, really breaking down the class system. That's why I went to the Gap. Like people say, man Virgi went to Louis, You went to the Gap. I said,

I always wanted to create e Galatian again. Yeah, I work. I work for the Gaps. It was meant to be. I always felt like Gap was sort of like Apple of Apparel for me esteem and clothing and so connected your ego. Your ego connected to the first time my mom bought me some Jordan's in fourth grade. I don't

even know what they was, the fours. I got the fours in fourth grade if I always looked for like lineups like that, and somebody told my mama, he gonna like this, And then I walked through the school and everybody was looking at my shoes. I don't even know

about it. Then I would go visit my dad out in uh Tacoma Park, Maryland, and it was this rich kid that had enough Jordan's to be able to wear mismatch Jordan's like bb D and yet having with the Jabot shorts and with a polo shirt because I'm coming to address like heavy D with the metal with the tip of my shoes and stuff with like rayon shirts and polka dots. And He's like, we don't dress like that.

No more were dressed like this. I came back to Chicago with the new style, and ever since then, I always been like ahead of niggas, and I always always like that feeling of being ahead. But if you're ahead long enough, you guys eventually you need to become the head. You need to become the leader. So I had the wildest conversation. And I remember one time, Laura gonna be mad at me by texta. I said, I'm I'm saying Lauren Lauren Hill. Yeah, it's gonna be a lot of

super name drops. And I was like, I was like, I'm the I'm the leader. And she was like, you you are leader. You're not not lad. She said, you're a leaders. She didn't go leader, the supreme leader. Yeah, but you know the spring leader is God, but God ap points leaders at a certain point. There are leaders, you know, so all the like me too. Like when I sitting next to Marilyn Manson and and the baby right after both of them got canceled for five songs.

You know, it's like they can't cancel us all. They said, Dave Chappelle de Chappelin getting That's what I'm saying, We got it. And then it's like that hit you with like an accusation or somebody that you was with, you know, ten years ago. And then also it's like the women who have been through really serious things pulled in alleys against they will that's different than a hug. But it's classified as the same thing. It's classified as the same thing.

You know. It's it's power and politics, you know, power hungry maniacs and just control. This is N four mind control that we're in to our mentality? To me, how you feel about counsel? Oh, man, I love it. I'm they trying to counsel you, is it? I'm love it. I'm above it. You know what I mean. I'm loved it. I'm above it. You know that that's the clouds when you're in the jet you look down at the clouds. It's like I'm like running to get cancer that doing

this show. So it's like I'm thinking and then different people will call me and make suggestions to be like, you know, I suggestion you know, maybe you shouldn't be blind if you said jesting that to me? Why you so into it? Unless you're really into it, unless you really part of the mob. Because the mob. It got a couple of mob members here right now, most definitely, most definitely, you know what I'm saying, that different kind of mob. But they've gotta understand. They all doing their job.

We're all here for a reason. God got a reason. God sees everything and if and if I'm if I'm still alive. Guys, that finished, like I said on four, which I wrote, UM actually wrote the day before Kobe passed the melody and we ended up and if anything, we went back and forth on this song. And when we did the listening event down and UM the listening event in Atlanta, the first one for hwed Land, we

started with twitter alf Dona album. Yeah, we started with twenty four people about the trench just them end up making all right. And then the funny thing, I had a clip of Kobe and his daughter in the video and we called his wife everything and you couldn't get it cleared. But one of the things with Kobe passed, there was somebody that I used to work with whose wife literally tweeted, let's not forget that Kobe was accused. And that's what they said. That Snooper reacted to that

because continue limnity. So that's what they said. Because you talk about superheroes, they don't want to uh what what the az say. They don't want to see a black man Turner, John Gotti or Calor. But like they don't want you to have this, They want you to have a house. They want you to have the cars. They want you to look at the numbers on you know,

Billboard or Spotify that's completely controlled. They want you to look at your They want you to base your self esteem off of TikTok Hi God if another, if another thing to talk to me about, TikTok bro bro. It's it's fine, y'all could play, you know, praise God and everything, and that's great. I'm happy that it connects to my children and everything, but it's it's none of these things that can make me. And that's the idea of being

a nomad. I like that term though, because I was talking to the head of Ikea about creating I'm sure he won't like that coming into it, like this's the first person that went in me to itself. You're not you're not laughing, you knowing like that. I'm looking at the uproar. It comes the back of the president. What happened? He's gonna be like, So I was just talking to and said, look, we need to create um better situations for homeless people. You know, it's a really utopian dick

dick hay, the concept of it. Okay, we're gonna eradicate homelessness. What about people who want to be homeless, and there's a lot of them, a lot of people, so that would change. You gotta think we used to have water fountains. Now we got a plastic problem because the water bottles. That's capitalist. You know, everyone only thinks about themselves, especially our black leaders. When none of us run on stage. What none of us say, George Bush don't care about

we are very self interest. Two of the best moments in American history. You said, George Bush don't care about black people. And when you told tell Us Swift that Beyonest had the best video, and I was very American history right there. That was very very what if we okay, did not hit that for the whole rest that man, you all got a gentle but that that's American history, Like what what what? What? What? What's it? Hennessy that night? That would tell us where when you said there, because

why did you want to do that? You know why? I was showing both of my addictions. You know, I found my dad's playboy when I was five years old, and I started drinking beer or something in high school. So I actually was carrying both of my addictions, one in one arm one and the other I was actually talked in to go into the award show. At that time, it was don C's job to talk me into stuff. They find new people whose job will be to talk me into doing something that I don't want to do.

Influences people around you. So uh, that night I said, Man, I'm not going to this award show. I'm not sitting through this no more. Uh. And the very first award they sent me in the front. Now you've got single ladies videos like the time, right, yeah they got this is one of the best videos of uh in history. Yeah,

the single ladies. So it's not it's not that it's just for her when the artist does something that's that compelling, incredible week out of respect it like, I feel like this year is just should nobody just even put the album in the category album of the Year so I can finally have album a year because you don't want to be the person that beat down the Film of

the Year. You know, you had to understand I made I May Watch the Throne and I May Wash the Throne and Dark Fantasy in the same year, my beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy the same year, and neither of them got nominated. Problem of the Year not even nominated, not even nominated. So and you know what I love. Hey, I'm gonna just tell you all this. When white people say the word rapper, that is saying nigger. When you say it to me, you're saying you're getting away with

saying nigger. Oh the rapper, Oh the rapper. Or like last night on the game they had my face on the chiron and on the screen and said hip hop artists specifically. I was like, you know, I got a pH d from the Art Institution of Chicago for the most prestige just our school in the world. Could I at least be called an artist? But you know here it's like in America, they're not going to just give it to you, but it's it's it's to be bought, it's to be taken. What I'm saying. Look at this point, bro,

this is like there will be blood. You know, I'm not ragon's blood. Uh yeah, absolutely, dragons blood in the Bible they got dragons. Absolutely, yeah, there will be blood. Bro. Like remember when the dude brother acted like he is his brother and everything, and like try. I don't know if you're seeing this movie. It's one of my favorite movies, but that's me, Bro, that's me. Bro. It's like the kid with the pink polos. I'll be telling people like, yo, it's not like that. No more with me at period,

like bro, like because you know what I'm saying. They did everything. God gave me that six point six, like right when they announced that Kim was filing for divorce one week later whatever, I was like, na, na, this is my son right here at six point six. And Forbes was always on some white supremacist ship like down in me for three years. They're like, Kylie a billionaire, You're not a billionaire, you know. And even in my Forbes if you read the article, it's like it's drench

with some like Jackie Robinson. Everything is safe yea. Yeah, So the the idea of what it even means to be a billionaire, but to have not colored inside the lines. You know, my mom was born into a drinking fountain. They told her what fountain she could drink out of. Now we're born into a vote. They literally call it the black vote. And by the way, we blooded Christ, we blooded Moses. We're not just a color in the crayon, boss. And if we knew that who we really were, we

treat each other differently. We treat ourselves differently. So when you say I'm black and I'm proud, like, but of what what? What concept? Are we? Are we understanding? They said, go see the African History Museum. Why do they start when when the boats came? Why don't they start with the drums? Oh they don't want it. But we are kings. But the four hundred years doesn't have to deal with slavery. It has to deal with the Bible. It has to

deal with us being disobedient to God. And that's why we farm land that is in our own record labels. The NBA, Hollywood, these boys be scared. They'd be sitting there, Michael B. Jordan be telling my cousins like, man, I want to do what you do, but I'm just you know, I'm right here, you know, Like Kevin Harvey's like, man, I like that, I'm envious to what Dave Chappelle could do. And then they're sitting it at us. Me to him say this tech blah blah. He said this. He said

that It's like, boy, just there would be blood. Stop working with me because y'all sucking with my money. You're doing ship. I got eighty accounts right now, I got people. That's like, why I got eighty accoun eunse that's that Bob Marty through the toe. You know what I'm saying. I make hundreds of millions a year. Then I look up and it's like, yoh, I got thirty people down to Sunday Service. You know, thirty extra people. That's thirty cars,

thirty flights, thirty mini bars, thirty uh movies? Who watching? Hey, nobody load up this movie? Who wants to see? But I wish I had the name of a funniest movie they don't really want to see. That would have made it funny. But who want to see this movie? You know what I'm saying? These just moves. And I looked, I come up, I had it was one dude work on me. I said, how many stories has I got? I said, eighty uh eight storages. And then my wife, because she's still my wife. It ain't no, it ain't

no paperwork, that's all. So I gave it to her because she's really good at stories. She loves like this is her her pastime. It's like organized. So when she went to the Storge, she's like, you got thirty six storages. That's a that's that's a silent murder. That's gas. That's like poison. And you slow through the wabi or something,

and every little piece of a suit. You got Japanese whiskey, you know, let's switch let's switch it up to the Japanese talk about I'm trying to get Biggie Begie Bee is gonna be nor begie every everything, and put my wife popping bottles of Jesus so as big as walked in. I don't know if you've seen. There was Biggs right there, but I always tell her what I said. When you asked me if I do it? Verses with Jake, he said no, why Why why I say I wouldn't. He's

the boss. That's what you said, right we recorded, But damn you got the box? Get the box? Okay? Yeah please yo yo. Yeah, we don't know if you know. Ostow was about giving people they claw was while they're alive. And we need you to know how much you're important to us. Wow, this is we need you know because I said it in the beginning, but I want you to I want to reiterate this because I want you to really know. You know, how many not just black youth,

not just Spanish youth, not just white youth. But how you are really inspirational to a whole generation, made people dress different, You made people you know, want to want to, really have the albums produced greatly again. You bring that back to hip hop. And I want to tell you that as face to face man and man out of eye, we appreciate you, We love you, and you mean the world to us. And you did a record for me back in the days. I don't know if you remember,

and you don't even charge me. I ain't have it though, I ain't have it. He was way too expensive and I'm trying. I was like, like, he said, it's good you so in the house. Any different stuff for me on my mixtages back in the day. I know he's not gonna remember that. It's still one of my lines. You said, Um, I go to Jacob with you keep me. I made a whole song. I gotta pass right now. You got your first goal singer nigger. Wow. I was looking at because I said, but yo, were so you

wanna do some hippie. Let's give him a new glass now glass, no class, that's a new glass, okay, alright, cool Biggs. I'm sorry, it's too am, but you're gonna drink to what us two? Goddamnit, I'm looking dead at you. What I know. You know what's funny. I just bought a bigger house last night. I got a backpack. That's this moment we're talking about the mobile homes. That's my own. That my house. My home is when my daughter faced time me and my house. Is that? Okay? So this

is who I'm going to ask you. One of the most controversial records or most dopest records I've ever heard you make was Big Brother was Big Brother Used to Be? And I thought that that was so honest because a lot of people, Um, I believe the word jealous. It's not a bad word, but I'm sometimes you could be jealous and saying I want what this person wants, because doesn't mean you're hating. Hate is something different. Hate is

I despise you. And I felt like that's not what it was saying what with that record, But it was like I want to slot and I'm gonna I'm gonna stop it. No, me's getting incorrect. Yeah, absolutely, And I think about when I do things, you know, I go and be on my monk. I'm just traveling the world. I have a home stuff. And but when we go in like we're just doing the listening sessions, we want to make it hurt. That's what competition is. We may, we may everybody push their summer back. You know, Drake

pushed back those release dates. That's for fact that that actually, you know, actually happened. And then they had people come out saying, oh, you know, he um you know the other thing I taught this thing that Style said about this going back and forth. Honestly, it's it's interesting to people. But man, I love Drake. I love all artists period, but not even to mention I love Drake, I love

all this. Let's let's have Drake just have his his father of what he meant in my life specifically and what he's meant to wrap you know, over the past decades specifically. This is a very the I would say the most if I wasn't me most, but this is this is a very um important artists that actually added something to the algorithm. Because watch this is like our phone I mean our phones have what do you call there? Like the hard drives and the way somebody micro trips

pros their processes. Right, we are God's ultimate iPhone. We are God's favorite creation. So if if Steve Jobs was God, uh, we would be his iPhone. And we are simply programmed, and we go with the program. And some are programmed and some of the unprogrammed are people who they say are crazy, easier, people who go off the rails, people who end up homeless. And the program are the people

who go with the program. And you have this thing like when I said, when I hit you with a w y D, you better than that hit me with an h G Y better be like Hi with a bunch of eyes or Hey with a bunch of wi. And so it's you know, people heard that song would text me back with a bunch of eyes. Are a bunch of wies. We just right there adjusted the programming. That's simple. That's what media. That's a mind control. It's all about can you be a part of the programming.

What I say that Drake is he added something to the algorithm. As we become more civilized and more sophisticated. The style of rap that he was doing was more sophisticated than the style of rap that I grew up on. Now I had notes from nas and rock him and obviously from me, but also had notes from Shane had No. Some people want to make jokes about that, but it made it massages. You got pay so you real, Nick just going up so peop, I'm sorry, I'm trying to

cut you off. So so that made it. His music was more accessible at this time when like rap wasn't as successible, and he created this thing that actually has good melodies in it, you know, good good music in it that became massively uh accessible. So it's sort of like the iPhone. Music is such an interesting thing to create a genre, to create it, because grab music right now, grab it with your hands. It's like, uh, it's in the air. It's intangible. It's intangible, like the concept of

a relationship. You know what I'm saying. You you you you with somebody you might only see him twice out the week. If you're married, you might only see him two hours a day, three hours a day before I'll go to sleep. But y'all together, it's a concept that you you you live on an idea, you know, and this and this g t a we are an idea from For instance, I gotta say this to Boo, I kind of feel like he knew that I was working

on cities. He knew he wasn't working on cities. But when you think about a city, who you think about a con So I feel like who was like, man, you know you know you're about to drop the city right now? I get yeah, which just period civilizations? Your man? Right? He was like, are you working on the EPCOT, you know, cities of the future. I'm like, man, how do you know that? He said, no, I know way, but I

know what wave you on? So um because no, one never liked to go to Wyoming until you went there, yeah, or even afterwards. Apparently some people after the yeah, it was a step. You know. The problem is they say, y'all talking to j Prince and talking to Elon another We're gonna do another driver, Yes, continue Elon Elon Wilson. So I was talking to Jay Prince and talking to Elon, which I that's an amazing combinations. It's amazing spectrum. That's actually closer than we think. Why is it so far?

You know what I'm saying. When I think about, you know, certain people's ability like business, someone he knows how to read a contract is That's how it's very few of us that's seven ft tall, and very few of us this three ft tall. We all play our position inside of this modern day Wakonda that we actually in. We have to brink of it. You know what I'm saying. After this interview, I possibly could be taken out, But the interview has happened though, because I've infected y'all to

think in the way we infected. Well, it's like when they say this is the Man of Moon, this is the first black animal. It's telling people like investors, the people were having back always with the black white person. First of all, we're all being as a light. We're not we're not even classified under race. But if we're gonna be inside the race conversation, don't be telling me

what you then did for the black people. I started the black spack or this black or this black investments for hair, hair clippers and what you think you know

I might be I remember being out in San Francisco. Bro, It's like I ain't never made money with not one person from Silicon Valley that if you ever saw the show Silicone Valley, Like the opening episode was Kid Rock performing and he said I'm Kid Rock, and then nobody clapped at the end of his performance, and one dude says, other, uh see that kid rock he'd broke this person here.

That best describes my experience in Silicone Valley, whether I'm sitting with Google, whether I'm here with Mark Zuckerberg, whether I'm sitting man. I already been shadow band. They shot Obami in the middle of the election. So what I got to lose? I don't use Twitter and my friend I'm friends with Jack's dorsey. I get shot, like I said, man, y'all, y'all shodowa. He hit me back, said I don't see anything weird here because you're not look at you gave me.

I didn't Inhale asked answer to why I got Shadow Band after I went to Haiti. They don't see your stuff. They don't see that. You don't know the sloat up. If you go right now and load up Emmanuel album by Sunday Service on Apple, if you don't type it all the way to the very end, it ain't gonna pop up. It's little things inside of But let's clear you was a little crazy on Twitter at one point. Remember you was kind here, But does that get it right?

From them to shadow Bands freedom of speech, taking that away many and it was the craziest thing exposing that exposed. And I had ten contracts that everybody or around me knew I had ten contracts. Everybody that supposedly cared for me knew I had ten jam no more right, I'm off of it now. But what I'm saying is I signed contract after contract after contract after contract, and it's no one. It's like one of my skill sets is not reading, one of my skill sets is not counting.

And people are like, oh, you need to learn how man. I ain't telling anything to learn how to dress. I'm not telling. But if we moved as a family in a community, you know what Jay said, say, we can fall, we can each other's crutches, We could benefit each other. But the system tears us apart. Left and right. Jaye, this way, Dayn't that way? Yead this way, Virgil that way. We're stronger together. We impenetrable together. We have to vote that we have to vote as a block. We vote.

I would have voted for you for president. I don't know what did you see me on the kid? I went on the campaign. I was talking, we talked about it talking. I was like I was like five, supposed about myself, like a lot of people supported me here I wanted you. But we're talking about when praise got to appreciate it. When it's time to get free, the only way we're gonna do it is by leverage and anchors.

Like the Jewish community is not the most people in America, but they understand how to collectively use their leverage to have a position that serves them. You know what I'm saying now, I keep on saying that we're us, we're collective humanity, We're collective, but we're so easy to get into like an ego thing, just like what the Drake thing. Man, I love Drake. I was just telling you things that he was doing in the professional game of rap that

was throwing me off. And then okay, I bet his ere you know what I mean that, And that's what happened. That was Mike Tyson home field. I was professional sports were in professional rap. Meaning it's too many people that get paid off of either of us for it's something to happen to either of us. You know what I'm saying. So we on the record. I'm gonna do this, No, no, not ridiculous at that point. Yeah you know what I mean?

So uh and why you know? And life is just so fun and it's it's lit and we get to be professional, you know, rappers for a period of time out of our life and pulling this energy and have people talking about it. But it's a certain responsibility. I think that it's a it's a redemption, a redeeming quality. That's what I have. I'll be going to sit down with Drake to say this just as O g to him.

Is the redemption Like I I asked him for the beat for T s U. That's my favorite song on See How Bea and say Mama is nine around and that is nine around little boy. Yeah yeah, so uh, I'm not gonna do a joke like, man, you don't know what the name of album. I'm not exactly you want him, but I live in I'm kind of the man and I'm sorry to say sorry to me. I'm

fine with you noting you get here one time. This is great, great, but but the redeptive, the redemptive quality is like that third verse because if you just leave it as it is, it's gonna stay as this and for me, in my opinion, Lucy and Grada got no problem with his staying as this. I got a problem with hi staying as this. I gotta you know, it's funny. I call uh Damien Hearst that did Drake's cover because I felt like I didn't like the cover. I felt

like he was trying to troll them or something. I love Damian Hurst. I just bought a couple of his pieces right now. One of my top five favorite artworks of all time. As these animals. He put in embalm and fluid. So you know, when you do my interview with y'all should have it just things just pop up at the bottom. So he did this shark. It's kind of similar to the scene in the sale that had j Lo by Tar Samuel Horse separated like this. So he actually did this. And I bought a dove for

my family for my wife to put it there. And I bought this black sheep because that's you know, that's um, that's me. So I'm bought a black sheep. It's an actual black sheep and embalming fluid, and it's by Damien Hursts who did the Drake album cover, so it's physically it is it is. Uh No, I actually bought um actually bought living Sheep, but I bought one. Yes, so the U. So it's that third verse I used to

wrap like this. I would say, um girling, give me know as you need to go down, and the next line I would say, the pastor said I need Jesus. So I went to the church and let the water wash over my season. I always gave a redemption, you know what I'm saying, Like, it's like what bone Thugs told you about, you know, fans sitting with them saying, make negative music that's gonna put more of us in jail.

It's it's documented, you can load it up. So we do that and you get like of God people, Travis Scott, Drake, Kanye West. We we of God, God's plan, and then we make these songs that don't have uh a redemptive quality. And what we're saying because maybe we're trying to look harder and be cooler. It's that younger whatever it is, and act like we're ready to die as much as people who really got you know, ten bodies And really

I'm sorry to cooking up what did it? Because the rumor is that Drake trying took a shot at you on that song but having Scott was on that same song Marriedship. Oh yeah, I'll put everybody on a group text. Everybody gets the group. And what I don't like is like, you know, when I'm talking, who's in this group to It was Jay Z, Kim Kardashian on the song this. I talked to j at the wedding the other day. He didn't know when he did the song that me and Drake had a problem. So after it came out,

he's not in it that I did. I did it before the fact. But when I'm saying this, so it's that Traff. But then Drake says, it's like I said, I'm gonna put you on the guild. I have somebody put you on the guild and which means put you on a T shirt? Right, And I'm talking to everybody that's in this community on the on album No, not on a group of group text. He said. On the song, um, and I'm talking all he says, Kid Cutty, uh, push you, Drake,

jay Z, Kim and Traff. One of the lines I said that was legend as I said I'm worth more than all of y'all on his text combined. Yah, that was a what what what? Did you say that was I don't know what you just wrote that in the text group with everybody. Yeah, that was one of the elements of the text. Okay, but this is anti cat but everybody, you know, everybody want to as soon as I started dropping bars, oh my god, he's in the episode. Oh my god, he needs to go to the hospital.

Oh my god, Oh my god, oh, oh my god, and it's just oh god, oh no, no, this is like you're going to so I just gotta shut up. But what I'm saying is, as a community, we have to police police ourselves. So if you know, you got a person that's you know, we're in the league. We're in a league of our own, right, It's like the

NBA life itself. But then also this like celebrity influential place of like musicians and influences and stuff like that, and they have ship that's called like flake ripped Fouls inside of the league. So in the scoop chat, did you tell Travis Scott was exactly because you know, the thing is he could have put the line on without

everybody knowing. So that means I felt like everybody should go to Drake and be like, you ain't saying that to North St. Chicago and Psalms and Dad because he could be seeing ship that's poking at me and and and driving me crazy, and then if I do something that seems crazy, then they just blaming me. It's like every nigger that got locked up, it's a reason they didn't do it, just because their life was perfect and they had all the opportunities in the world and their

dad brought them up. It's very few people like that that's born serial killer. That's what they want to do. People are always there for a reason and ain't nobody like you know, this conversation where Drake is like, you know, I never fucked him, but I was like, but you acted like you did. You got bars, just like hidding heels, give your wife the chills. You're doing all kinds of It's like somebody throwing a marble and hiding their hand

or something like that. It's like you all that disrespectful. We had this conversation. We had this conversation and this is all and to the point where Kim be like, I don't listen to this nigga no more. This ain't acting like he fucked and like we ain't never really like we We never really had that conversation at all. I never sucked him like no, but what about all the did you ever d m her? Did you ever?

You know what I'm saying, everything else around it, you know, because it ain't about just the actual act of it, you know, the act the anticipation of something is that is what we live in now is the shortest moment of our life. Now that now that was just there's just gone now, you know what I'm saying. So you could be sitting there like did he did he not? That's worse than if you would rather you did. And I just actually, yeah, deal with the finality because my mind,

I'm like a Xerox printer, you know, I'm Christian. I'll tell you something. I talked to a healer that said, I'm dealing with resentment from multiple lives of disloyalty by the way I felt, you know, with Virgil going to Louis and just things that jealous. So it actually was because that's what we heard. Yeah, absolutely I was jealous. What do you mean? I'm a human being and people try to tell you what the saying press and what to feel like, you don't feel that you was in

my situation and you're riding. No, no, this is the other thing, sickle mode. They would play it at the kids party, So I'd have to bring my kids to a party with this man threatening my life on a song Welcome to Calabasas. And then they wonder why you end up, you know, in the hospital. This it has to be some type of respect, a male perspective, God perspective, and some type of community leadership. And I'm the leader. And that's what I told, Yeah, told Laurie about told everybody,

I'm the leader. Let's look at it. Let's open up this Bible. No, you're your grandmother. You need Jesus, that's what. Because praise God because all of this that we're doing, it ain't adding up to nothing. And now God is pointed at me and said, this man worth nine billion dollars. This man, this man and that, and that's pretty good for a black man. Since I was all the black

first of all, I said that before. We gotta take the black version off it because I'm running I'm running circles around you know, all the other Uh you know what we're gonna do, Yeah that black or white, But what we're gonna do to the world. I'm like, you got me? I'm sorry. Yeah, I mean, like, look at Moses. In order on it. For Moses to be Moses, he had the ability to be able to take down anybody else.

That's my thing. If I'm a rap on a song, if I'm gonna do a beat, if we talk about money, whatever we're talking about, I'm gonna be the Moses of the situation because that's what God annoyed me, that skill set to be able to do that, you know what I'm saying. It's like, I can you know what I'm saying. You wouldn't have Drake write a verion. I know, you wouldn't have Virgil do a song for you, But you wouldn't have Drake pick out a purse for you, you

know what I'm saying. But I would compete with both of them at the same caliber, you know, competing with Virgil at Louisa time with my little brown sweatshirts. Somehow this man been annoying it with. So that's why I said I put him on a group text And it wasn't about the magic arc terics or kid cutty dress. It's like, you know how it is if you're texting a girl or girl text you back. They might just to gain some position. Text you back, slow different things.

I don't let me tell you as the leader, I don't operate like that. Don't be on my phone, gonna touch him, take him back. So if I or don't or don't be or don't be on my phone, I don't work with like I tell you, I'm a Xerox printer, meaning I could. I could see a dinosaur bone and

build a dinosaur out of it. Mentally, So if I hear a verse, I'm gonna build a dinosaur, I'm gonna hear dinosaur borne out of a line too, because people could look and be like, oh, he never did this, But that don't mean that line hasn't built an entire dinosaur bone. And this is a perfect time for me to come back, because you gotta understand I was yea.

And then they started making more ya's m M watch this. Yeah, it's like this encompassing thing of fashion, bars, beats, production videos this, And then what happened is you get Rocky dressing better than be Tyler making better videos, Drake more records, Virgil higher position in fashion, and Jacole more backpack or Kendrick better bars and stuff. So I literally had to go like Thanos, and I don't want to have to

be the villain. But when I went and did the Donda thing, he returned and everybody had to sit back and watch the real leader. They can talk about goats and this and that. It's like because I affect people twenty years older than me, I affect people twenty years younger than me. And that's what it factually is. And you gotta know who you is, and you got to tell people who you are. Man, I got this money guy. As I'm up, are disappointed because I said, I gotta

stop screaming at white people. Um, but I got this money guy that said, yo, you got eighty accounts open, which is what I said. It's the hit. It's a way to kill me. And he was just dismissive. He was like, man, I just saw what Trump did with this back, and you can you can do this. I said, Man, when I do it, we're gonna get up to Ellen and Bezos and are no territory. Uh. And he just says to me, very nonchalantly, I'm not gonna say it's

gonna be all that. Three minutes later, in conversation he's talking to me about you got eighty accounts open, and this is ridiculous. He said it at the beginning, you know, I said, I already heard that, and I started raising my voice. Then he checked me, like who you screaming at? Who you're screaming at? But it's like, boy, when you said and you just missed me, And when I try to stand up and you pushed my shoulder like that,

that's a part of the programming in schools today. I've seen my son do his homework at Sierra Canyon that because I because because Daddy got his own school called Donda, named after my mom, the first black female English Chase, Chicago English Partment, Chicago State. So he's doing his homework and it's it's math, and it's got three eggs and two eggs and says three plus two equals what? And he says five. And the next one has three eggs plus two eggs and it says two plus one equals what?

And he says five and the picture was wrong with the number. He starts getting frustrated. He starts crying he doesn't understand. And I was there, you know, thinking he was too young for me to explain this to here. It's like, no, this is getting you prepped to be pulled over for no reason and think it's okay. This is getting prepped for you to be the person that

deserves a job, and someone else get the job. They hire Virgil over you, and you think it's okay, and you can't say nothing because you will sell out the black people if you say you gotta go get a hug. You know what I'm saying. They're getting you prep. It's prep school, right baby, it's prep preparation for your limitations. Were in these schools right now? Baby? Oh you thought I wasn't gonna get killed by the NS interview. I'm just gonna try my best worse, you know what I'm saying.

But it's a part the overall slaveship and the same mentality when I cut, when I cut my hair like this, you cut it yourself off, Barbara, did that? Let me tell you. I should have cut my hair myself because I was in Europe, so you can do that. No, No, tell me exactly. It's funny as you say that because I asked, he kept on like cutting it because he got a barber. If you ever cut a plug and somebody had, your barbershop might shut down. I cut here

for a living back, you know, fourteen fifteen. Used to do that to buy clothes and also to buy music equipment. I got a story that we're gonna get into some real rap ship. We had to like, I had to just give you some you know, all the TMZ existence a thing at the beginning. So um uh damn, what was that training through? We're talking about the barber. If you cut, if you cut a plug and somebody hair,

you could lose your job, you can. I remember I used to cut hair and I had like one day, I had like six clients and I had the most. Momm had, like honey, twenty, I don't know. And the next day these barber's day is real good town. They said your boy was on a mission. You know, yesterday I was feeling all proud of like yeah, well I was getting it in and then um he said, people was walking in like this and walking out like this.

No because I was bad so so um yeah, so he cuts my hair and I'm going through this take an hour. I'm like, I'll take a little bit more. Here do this here, boat bab. And after this it took all the life out of this man, as a black barber, as a African American, as a blood of Christ, as a Hebrew, as a see I'm telling y'all what it is, right, so um, and he was so disappointed

that he he didn't even charge me. He just walked away, like, Man, I did this to Kanye West or something that you asked for to Yeah, and then a few days later, I cut my hair. Now min y'all thought it was lit and only God the universe, the video game that my haircut posted on the But the fact that my hair cut and my name came at the same time, Yeah, it had to be something because to do that. This is harder than wearing a Trump hat because every time it's my my image. You know, I'm I'm I'm flying.

So it's just everything. It's like, you get your hair cut, it's Friday night, I'm finning go to the club, or I gotta go to a wedding, or I gotta go to a graduation, or I'm going to my job. As a man, as a black man, you're lining your hair cut means so much. So then I'm sitting in the mirror at the hotel and I grabbed and I remember oh stop. I have a barber skill set and an

art skill set. And I started cutting because one of my home girls like, I think you need a lining because it just looks And I said, I ain't finning getting no I got not bill, I don't need no line. So so then I, um, I cut it a different way. And the name of my basketball team is the Doves, the Donda Doves, so I like, um, I started to cut it like a dove. So this is actually three doves cut in my hair. And what I like is one patch of grow back and it starts to make

these layers. And I said, you know, I'm an artist, like a process artist, and I'd like to let people in on the process, like what we did with the rollout. So when you see the hair, it's like you see the process of the haircut. You also see the process. It's like a representation of my thoughts development because of how close it is to my you know, to my

to my head. And then the whole thing is it it gotta look hot, you know at the end of the day, like it's it's it's girls that hit me, Like yo, I like that mask because when I when ye because when I wore a mask head old text and told us, don't tell make sure you don't walk in with that white mask. But I got, I got, I got the masks on the action that I was. I was actually about to start giving out haircut because apparently this is about to be a thing. Somebody, A

lot of people. Don't wite your ship. Yeah, and my hair. My barber name is Edward Nigger Hands. I like him already. And I like the fact you holding a smoke champ. I like that you want to light up. You can be light up if you want to light up. Yeah, you can light it up. It's okay. Yeah, no, no, no, no, you're thinking about thinking that. Come on, you're my Joe. Ro Let's go. You know, man, I'm not a real smoke You ain't gona embarrassing you gotta light I gotta

be like. Yeah, somebody liked it, So let me ask this as this kind of a serious question, right, because um, I remember when eyes Um named his company ill Will, Right, And I believe that he had to change the name of his company because it's easy to say like fun ill Will, But ill Will is an actual person the world was his actual best friend. So was it ever a time when you said that about naming your album that because that's what somebody don't like this. This is

album and somebody could say funk Donna. They're not saying fuck your mother, but they're saying funk the actual material. Did you ever feel any concern about that naming it after after her? Not at all. But I have seen them do these things when when everybody said they like donned the way better than uh CLB, they had this thing where they had these football players coming up saying what you like better CLB A Donda and then they was like CLB and then one of them was like,

yeah fun. I was like, bro, that's my mama. Yeah yeah, so no, but so so you didn't feel that way like it was a football player saying fun yeah, but he was saying the album. Okay. So moving on, Who was it that you said you wanted to work with the baby and you couldn't work with him? Oh yeah, it's like people in my camp was trying to protect me from working with debate. It's so funny. I baby a little baby. I forgot which one was. Well, you know, it's really hard for me getting contact with both of

them in all actuality. I had to tweet to really red hat on at the time though, No, no, this is after I had a red time, but I still got a red hat on today. I'll let your back. I might not got it on. I'll let y'all know where I stayed. But that was one of that was one of the things. Your first listening session was in the Mercedes Don't in Atlanta. That was one of the standout things. For one, getting to hit you and Jay

back together. Didn't hear Jay say that this might be the return of the throne, but he did say I put that red back to that red at all. That was funny, bro. I literally got on something like Michael from Goodfellas, like going crazy, Like it ain't like that. You can't tell me what happened. I had gigs to try to take my hat when I was it was like and then but I did get him though, because I heard that he was watching on the the third

listen to session. Okay, so we start off with jail and song and then it's like he's not on it, the baby, baby, he's not on it. We wanted that, yeah, and he had to be like but the baby versus hard Man. You know, it's another thing is so funny. I was sitting in the studio with I was sitting backstage and Soldier Field with Roddy Rich and the baby, and I was like, yo, god, and he got a new level of shoot is around right now. They're in another algorithm. It's the whole thing in the way the

baby be around. He go into that beat and out of that beat, around that beat. Here give you the melody. That man was the number one streaming artist for a reason. This is like Terminator three. You know what I'm saying. I understand people like a slow flow here and then blah blah. But that's the thing. That's the moment when obviously like NAS made ether and that that's gonna be forever. You know, I may take over. No, no, I never knew that I may take over. No, I never knew that.

And my girlfriend Sumiki Rainey from Chicago is the one that gave me the sample. She gave me a sample for the Truth, and she gave me a sample for takeover. She's like oz is one that kind of sounds like the truth. You might like it going on and uh taking over? Come on, don't don't don't, don't, don't, don't don't don't take you know, we have a game on our show, but what you finish? Yeah, I wouldn't just say it about It was something about related to take

over all the algorithm? Is that your bitch? That was the moment when jay Z went like this and Nas is like this because Nas couldn't we call in Chicago we call it sniping. Nas is my favorite rapper. That many of times I said this is my favorite rapper, But the moment when it shifted was the when Nas couldn't wrap that style and jay Z could. And I think the moment that clarified what you mean. I'm sorry then,

is that your bitch? And on this when on this like how we rap from Chicago, like how we called a sniper? How how bone thugs would you say double twisting? Yeah, we call it sniping? Right, So but Nas he couldn't hear on snipe, you know what? Something like that. And then the thing that I feel affected Jay was actually

deaf of auto tune because auto tune didn't die right. Actually, it's like the most I think the most influential artists actually her to pass ten years is future, oh most important, most influential to our sound to day and then you you're throwing you know, chief Keith. No. No. And then also one thing is like with Soldier Boy is top five most influential. And I'm not gonna argue with you niggas about this at all, but Soldier Soldier Boy five as far as to what we are today, you know

that's it's like take them on your album. You don't hear that verse? No, he said, Oh he was apparently man the verse. No. But I tell you what though, I'll tell you what though Soldier Boys, the future though, the future, the future is a couple of people. You know, I got some things, even when my style is like I never liked Touched the Sky and gold digget that style I only liked. Can't tell me nothing to say you will. And that's why I'm still here today because

everything is moving around us. You know what I'm saying. It's like my wife changed the the thought of the idea of beauty. You know what I'm saying. It was it was white girls in her school that used to talk down on her for having an ass and as white girls that go and get asked. You know, so, kid, tell me nothing my thoughts behind. I mean, I did, can't tell me him for jeez, and it was for him. And I got dj to to do the drums because I love what you know about that. Oh, let me

tell you about when Atlanta took over WRAP. It was bone crusher. Was the moment it chat as that's when Atlanta took over. Yes, that was because Also, you gotta understand, I'm like Kobe Lebron or Michael Jordan's or Phil Jackson of WRAP. I study, I understand the game. Also, I'm I'm not only a client. I'm gonna player president. I'm not I'm on only play on my coach. But when you say take over from the perspective of what because Goody mob and and and casting, what they were doing

was was changing. It wasn't. It wasn't now I'm not gonna say that, Uh, goodie mom outcast. It wasn't as street as t I. It didn't have all the bitches like t I father God excuse me for saying bitches. But the orphanage that I'm creating called Donda, and ain't that to my mom because my mom saved my life. My mom was like, I'm keeping Kanye. Um. This orphanage is gonna provide first of all the way, God is we already got what what do we call them? Bed nurses? Um?

All right, So this is like when you go and get your ultra sound, they tell you if your baby's gonna come out okay. In hospitals today, they would tell a black mother that the baby is not going to come out today because we are inside us as twelve tribes of Judah, as a member of the Hebrew people, we are still inside of our genocide. Of all Black deaths a year is abortion and death black deaths a year is abortion. And Plan B was created by Margaret

Singer with the KKK for Black Population Control. Uh, getting deep right now? Yeah, this is what I cried about during the election, that those tears is gonna be gospel someday. And what am I doing? I know the guy from Texas got a lot of backlash for changing the lass. I'm not in a position. That's not what I'm doing. What I'm doing is providing a plan, a opportunity where you can bring your children if you feel like you can't take care of them, you ain't got a place

to take them, you know how to support system. We got a place that's gonna have I'm like you thought that I wasn't gonna try to get killed. In this interview, Dr Seby's diet based off Dr Sebby's diet, saving not only Black children but all God's children given the opportunity of a utopia. Because the reason why we ain't get our forty acres and the mules, we have forty acres,

we have more people. We have more people, and we have leadership with the leaders not strategically taken out of the community in the eighties and the drugs and guns put into it, and then the algorithm. You know what I'm saying, The eight O eight, The eight O exists in the lowest chakra of your body. The majority of content that's related to the eight away is kill look

or sexual content. The original Eightaways was even off pitch, so that man, it's an actual sound in the track that you don't realize it is there that is sucking up your entire frequency. And now today every time I hear a car come out, it's either way. But if you think about African music and hip hop and when he's breaking to break, that's too. It was light, it

was upbeating, it was the drums. Now it's like and all of this is a bigger and it's like, man, you know, at this point, it's like they should have killed me when I said, George Bush don't care about black people. I ain't got nothing to say. You know, they snl making my wife say I divorced them on TV because they just wanted to get that bar off and I ain't never even seen the papers. We don't even divorced. So how we because they ain't no joke to me. My kids want their parents to stay together.

I want the pair. I want us to be together. But if you want me together to if you look at the media, that's not what they're promoting. That's not what they want. They wanted to be a new way in the new episode, a new TV show, and then they had people all around and my wife here. You don't saying it's a publicist. That's next to it. I don't funk with her. That was as clear as you can say. Are you thought I wouldn't gonna try to get killed this her? So this is a game people old,

I guess we don't go. We don't come to music. Now, let's get into some games. It's called quick time with slob right. I do not want over my house, and I don't sunk with some of them nannies either. Alright, what's the game? Okay, let's called quick time of slum. You can pick one or the other. You either pick one or the other. You pick one and all you pick, you pick both, you get. You take a shot, but neither or both? Okay, TUPAC or DMX Oh they same and they off here right now, both on your shirt.

So you're taking a shot, I said, But I said the same. I said, they're the same. They're both here right now. We're doing the shot. This you can do. I don't know why I get that. Why I gotta have a luxury that celebrity version shot. It's gonna be shot. Okay, you want to shot? He wants a shot? Yeah, man, I don't you know. Okay, so this this one, I don't know where you're gonna go with this one? Common or Toddlert Oh definitely comment, are you man? Oh no, no,

it ain't shot. It ain't shot. Town comment. It's a thousand times better rapping than quietly. What's your turning? No, I gotta disagree with you. Take a shot, just gota. You can take a shot of it. Now you don't ask me my opinion. Okay, opinion, that's true, Yeah, that's true. My opinion is like everybody knows that Common is a thousand.

The only thing I don't like about Common is he like worked for the Democrats to be and all kind of like whatever they're telling the dude, it's a light skinnigg be doing les different, just a little harder, but also quality. Be getting up and like come back home homewear nigga. You know what I'm saying, When I wear it, when I got a difference opinion of Trump had it's like Nigga City. You you single handedly kept baseball caps

in business. You're the last nigga with this type of hat on trying to tell me where to where to come home to? You know what I'm saying that just turn up. And then when he was on here, he didn't tell you the story about when me and A T eight Keys picked him up from his house, drove to Marina del Rey and had um breakfast together and vibed out. He didn't tell you that. I feel that the Black Star album is the hardest album since Dark Fantasy. This is the best album since Dark Fantasy. Up there

talking about you know it's an agendas all control. Man. It's like, you know, crabs and the barrel. Jay Z got this my favorite line, say but why were crabs? Crabs shouldn't be in the barrel. So how are you gonna tell me how crabs are active? They are the barrel. Of course they put there in the barrel. What you're talking about? But yeah, man, it's like that's my issue.

Man and man and all these like back in Oh yeah you know, uh yeah, you know he's he's a billionaire, but king being a billion and you'll be more billionais and he doing he heatn't thin there. But he not like Dave Chappelle. He not like down with the people. He not that man. You can't tell me when I'm going through in my life and whether I'm with the people and adjustment of how I should be like you. If i'd be like you quality, I'll be where you're

at now. If you take the average, ninety nine percent of people say do you want to be quality or do you wanna be y? More people don't wanna be y quality. So like you told that, man, don't give me no advice. Go open up a book, eat yourself to death. Man, you know what I'm saying. That's another thing people be so like people would be so you know, oh I'm well read, I'm well read. I can't read that well, bro, I can't. I can't count that way. That's not my that's not our skill set. But tribally,

you know what I'm saying. I don't know if that's a real word. I'm sure it's that quality of so tribally, you know, if we if we was back, you know in African times. You gotta understand, Shakespeare created thirty percent of our language. We speak in The language is not our own. We speak the drums. That's why it's so hard. That's why it's so hard for it to be a black billionaire. And it's so hard to get a post malan you know what I mean, like a white black

dude or something that you got. It's so it's very feeling far between and somebody can figure out because the game and society in America has been made for us to not figure it out. So all these books. When we go to college and we discriminate again against each other because we got this degree, that ain't gonna add up to ship to us getting a job for another white person, and I gotta say that, you know why, because I was separated from my dad and I've just

now understand what happened. My mom was an actress, but she also had a b plan of being an English professor um and she went for a gig and she didn't get it and she went to be a professor. Now her and my dad had separated, but they but I was still in town. She got a job offer in Chicago from this white organization, Chicago State University, and it separated me from my best friend. So I had to grow up around people who didn't understand me, who

didn't love me. People were looking at me as an opportunity since I was fourteen, because I was a prodigy. You know, I've been had industry friends, so to shame. Oh, we're gonna go here and we're gonna get some beats out this nigga. We're gonna get this this type of because my mom, uh separated me for the opportunity of more money. Society is set set up to have people go away to college, go away here, and in between your dorm room and your college, or in between your

hometown and where you got to go to school. It's gonna be a bunch of liquor stores. It's gonna be a bunch of strip clubs, it's gonna be a bunch of malls, it's gonna be a bunch of things that people we do that when we don't have that love like a kibbutts, we need Christian kibbutts. We can have communities be as close kibbutts like Jewish people have this type of circular community community center. No, it's like where they live and where we need to live, where the

grandparents can take care of the kids. It's better to have a grandparent taking care of the kids in the nanny taking kids hired. Love you get. I'm saying that we move as a community, and as a community, we will not fail. There's communities that didn't go into slavery, like I think it's a massonic. I don't want to go to let me do a shot. You have to do. And I said all that to say that we got our opinion with quality. I love quality. I never really liked the way he rapped um trying to get away.

You want to go. We can never mentioned comment and quality in the same breath. Keep it going, okay, ship Ship all right, hurry man, Oh I love this. Let me tell you this quick about this. Craig already decided that when I die on my tombstone, it's gonna say I deserve to be here because I signed Big Sean. So I'm not quite sure you're pick Yeah, you're not quite Big Big Sean. No, I'm saying that the first thing I've ever done was signed Big Sean. That's that's

a beautiful thing. Oh, that's a beautiful thing. Wait wait, wait worst the best you're playing on? I think you said the best. Okay, hold on, no, man, look they let that man. I know this man, mama, bro. You know what I'm saying. I've changed his man family, and both John Legend and Big Sean when I ran for office, got used quick body democrats to come at their boy. That actually changed their life. And that's some sellout ship. And I don't rock with neither of them, and they

and I need, I need my apologies. I ain't saying they gonna change niggas. It's scared. I feel you. They you know what I'm saying. Anybody got a hundred of talents, They got him under pressure and still got signed to your contract. He's still on man good when we signed were just we're just working for the white labels. We ain't signing nobody. This ain't independent. He's he's the only one owned independent, you know, black owned or whatever. I

don't know to be owned after this after interfew. But but you know what I'm saying, like when we signed that, we don't sign somebody. We're signing someone to the bigger Vivendi slave ship, to the bigger Universal slaveship. Y'all saying all all these tweets was crazy. You know why Press gave me the song jail because he liked what I did. And he's like, I like what you did from the contracts. Man, he definitely gets who going to jail or not? You know what, because he was on that tip. Yeah. Just

do people don't know you took about prints? Prints? Yeah, I'm talking they had some outprints trying to get away from corporations, connect with the slave on it. Okay, we gotta get through quick, go ahead, go ahead. That it's not gonna be quick, man, But I like, I like, if you want, if you want your flowers, just like man if he took Kobe Bryant, Michael Jackson, Prince the existence of Kanye West. Oh he's so crazy. It's like, okay, well if I'm crazy and it's up, then it's up.

Then it's up. Then let me move on the next question. Um biggie a big punt? Whoa biggie for me? But equal level, they equal genius system. Okay, Um, I gotta take a shot. Here We're done. No, no, no, no he ain't like he said, but now he said, here's weirds. Get creeky. This is just on the CEO level. This is not artists. This is not just just see one second. You know, Okay, you're good with John and Sean Sean John puff is my go and Twin go and twin

you so Um but uh, which Sean and John? You know, push your voted Democrat voter for Kamalo ain't seeing that since the election either and the seen hopeful they got nine percent of the black female vote. You would have thought Drake was running straight push. It didn't come out and outright dissed me to the public. You know what I'm saying, because at the end of day, he know, he like, man, I'm not gonna do that. Like I didn't dis Virgil when he took the Louis. You know

what I'm saying. These people came out and then John Lessend he sounds so white. He was like the rapper, the rapper. It's just like, man, it's like, where is God in this conversation? And what I'm saying, where who do you work for? Because if you don't work for God and you're working for the devil, so who are you working for? At this point, I'm a man of God. God got me covered, and as long as I'm alive,

God's not finished. God, damn it. All right, let's make some Look, this is just on okay, okay, okay, get okay, this is just on the CEO level. Jay or damn just see you all, absolutely thousand percent. Dame Dash because Dame because Dame Dash the visionary, the original black hipster. I'm the Devil's first night man. I'm damned Dash with money. I don't want to take that woman. But and I'm also j and Dame combined. You know what I'm saying. That's why I'm still here. You know what I'm saying.

Dame had has division to see it. And this man, I remember, um what's his name? With Steve Rifkin the song Yeah, he said, so he said, he said, Oh, Dame is in Ya's pocket. White white boy, don't never speak on me and uh and Dame don't never speak on our situation of me taking care of the man to put me on beautiful, beautiful ship. You're like, you know what sayingcause that's what all you think. I'm a man,

not everybody that now ere gonna make the money. You know I'm saying, if you got a community, you're gonna have people who can figure out how to earn. I said. I said, I was one of Jay's, the Jay's best earner anytime he needed that beat boom. You know what I'm saying. So Dave never had to work again, period. You know what I'm saying, Anything ever need, I'm I'm here. The more and more money I got, this is my family. I'm never gonna let nobody speak on our relationship Bees

or the game. M hmm. No Beanie because even though I talked about she went with Beanie. Yeah, because of you know, I always envy. You know, I was jealous of like Bust the rhymes, how perfect he wrapped. You know what I'm saying, It's like Bust. The verses would battle bust In the verses, Uh, man, I battle anybody. Man, that's I'm gonna say, like, that's it bottle to anybody.

I don't care you, Okay. So Beanie, just because I'm like I'm in that, I'm in that like sophisticated kind of like if I hooped, I would hoop like d Rods A Curry or Kobe or something like. I'm real, like slick, like you just look at my color palette and my whole I'm like on some like puff Daddy, you know, like real and Beanie. You know all the

Rockefeller rappers really had. You know, Freeway was like the closest to like an O. D B. But I used to say when I wanted to rap, I was like, man, I cut one of my fingers off to have Buster Rhyme's voice and and his his skill set, and when I wanted to be a rapper back in Chicago. So Beanie is that man who, like we were just listening at what you do is wrong, wrong the way he was on it. And by the way, here's another thing. I oh, I still owe Beanie money, and I've been

trying to give him this money for a minute. He's gonna get the money's gonna get the money. I remember, yeah, because really, how do you old? I don't know. Because he made up the name easy. He used to call on me easy. Thing that this is you can speak, So he made up the name easy. He used to call me easy. This is the thing. People who took a liking to me in volatile situations would always give me a nickname. So it seemed like I was like cool, Like so my boy Molly that used to sell guns.

He he he called me k Rock you know when when I would be like on seventy nine for this and stuff like you know, so that's like that was being his name for me when I was in baseline, like on something that's cheesy, like making one of us. He let me wear a state property chain like he really just embraced me because it was like your little little stuck that was real. That's some real ship right there. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie, okay, and I've been trying to give it. I was like, man, this man made up.

It's like, you know, the lady who made the Nike swoops Phil Knight went back and made sure she was straight, or the lady that made the fidget. It's better. I don't know if she's straight yet, but that made the throng because he needed to be. When this cisco a you ready kiss so fat? He took a shower, took a shot. I'm the thing is, you know, I'm gonna have to say kiss um, you know, because what I want to cut my finger off for that voice, that voice and then man, he's still. It's so funny. Man.

It's just like people when I was come like back in like earlier my career, rappers used to like stop rapping, and now it's like niggas just really have something to say and have a great perspective. Like when I work with architects. The architect I work with that designing the Donna Orphan edge and various things. This architect is eighty years always just turned eighty in September. Look at like

push your t like look at me. I'm actually forty four years old, and I'm competing at the highest level. At forty four is like Lebron or like seven Ring Brady, you know, competing at that level. And that's how Jada that Jada's and obviously five both of them get bars. And I just always loved Also another thing it's like they was in the game before me. So me and

Mina used to ride around Chicago. Yeah, John Monopoly, we should just ride around and marvel at you know, the new Swiss beats with them on and Just and then Mace Murder and d M Max And this is like our man like me, and I'm always look at people that way, you know, the way that I always see him as God's as. So this one should be easy for you. Nas or Jail Electronica was Nas because that's who um because because Nas my favorite rapper. Because it's Nas.

What do you mean it's not Nas, It's not he's like ordained in our video game to be the best rapper and considered to be the best. Yeah, it's Nas. His name is synonymous with greatest. You know what I'm saying. At the end of the one time I according with um fans on I didn't like it. I played basketball against him, and that's what I knew hip hop was dead. You know, he can't Oh he can't bohip. I'm sorry, Nas, but I do not of them wins. He friends me that in the win, so he thought he was good,

but I let him know not not that y'all. Y'all got okay for Round or Timberland beat wise only I'm a road with Timberland because um, the sample style and the fact that he when he came through Virginia and Virginia is a very for us from Virginia as well. Just in case you don't know. They definitely and that was the shot shot question for a second, because definitely gonna call you about that. Yeah, take a shower. Our show was about giving people they flower. We really want

to give your flowers. We want to give you a praise. You're really one of the most inspirational people in hip hop. I've never seen anybody like when Geezers dropped on the sneakers drop. I see people outside the doors and it make me be so proud that I could call you a friend, I could call you ap proachon that I communicate with. And I'm really really proud of you, and and we fucking love you all this motherfucker's you gotta take the shot you don't care to, let's do. So

we're moving on, moving to Holy Moti Waka more. This is good. I gotta give at least one short explanation about Timberland. The reason why I say Timberland's Virginia. That's no, it's that it's that kind of Fred Hampton, Um DeVante Joe. To see that chord, that church thing, that Detroit deep past Chicago deep houst those church courts, that's it. Timberland was one of the The main thing that we do at Sunday Service is that we want to do Fred Hammond.

We want to get Yeah. That's so even when I did this album and Manuel or Christis Town our notes, you would think it's like some Catholic choir, but the notes have the updated operating system and has those type of those type of chord progressions. Now might like prell, prell get them the chords though, because you know why, I feel like Pharrell is actually you, Pharrell is actually lost members of Native Time. Did I have to get that accurate? Because like you guys, we're tough guys to

quote unquote, but you guys were hip hop? Is that accurate? All? I'm a little I'm a little happy, got me? Yeah? Okay, all right? MPC three thousand or MPC two thousand XL Yeah, the two. I used the two thousand, so I gotta go with the two thousand. I don't know I don't use it. Yeah, I see to use that. Use the A s R in the two thousand, Yeah, okay, analog or digital? I just say analog right off back, I like shoot stuff in sixteen let me do. But we use protoos. Okay, so fat Joe or ja rule fat

Joe because I grew up and he had gotta flow Joe. Okay, puff Daddy or Dr Dre Well puff Daddy because we twins. I like that. That's it's enough good man. Also he got that, you know what I mean, It's just like that's everything here everything I said, that's like what consequence is like, that's that. That's that bob like that, you know, it's just like puffs bop. That's close to to like Dre's got his Bob is like the West Coast Bob.

But I really was like trying to put the shakers and you know, trying to be all the hit man in one. So Swiss beat so just blaze well Swiss Beach definitely, because Jess Blazes is a copycat. You know, he gets credit for the blueprint and I did the first half of the blueprint and he just copied my half and got I mean, look, look where I'm not today and look where he had today. So that's that's just show. You know, what do you mean? I'll be here and then it'd be all over the radio. I

have my girl friends. Chicago will be a hot night. He seven, it's up listening to the radio. Wud be another J Blade song, another just PLAYE song? Now, I like I like the originators, man, I don't mind, like you know the copycat too. And by the way, you just gotta say it like it is. You know what I'm saying. I said, if somebody copy me, I'm like, you copy me? You know, I'll tell try like yo, you copy me, boy, And it's like but but I'm up. I love you. But just know what it is. You

know what I'm saying. We ain't gotta be no but hey man, that's our community, man. We can like we just be this this other thing. When I had the record, wh I'm saying Virgil and Drake. Just because I say somebody name, don't mean it's a beef record. This is not beef. I ain't saying nothing. I just said I put these two men on the same text. I said, stop it with the funny mess like, don't man, we ain't operate. Yeah, put the two on the same text

with the funny mass. That's what's the ball. Yeah, that's all. That's all. That's all I'm naming. I'm saying names because I don't like subliminals. I don't like sub sub sub or sub bate, you know, eight o ways. I don't like nothing. I can't see. It's like, just be straightforward, you know whatever it is. I honor that, you know, I respect that. You know what I'm saying. I gotta hey, this how I feel. This is how you feel, and

let's talk on that way. Let's not talk through no managers, let's not talk to no assistance, no bodyguards, no, no nobody. Using you were talking to I was like he said, formerly normal, Yeah, he's in formally car that's him. That's hit body cool, Okay, bus stop missy. They both fill Virginia now paying just playing. But I look at them as different genres though. But you're talking about like if it's videos, artists, yeah, or whatever in your mind, whatever

your behind criteria, you create that same. Actually they're same. Take a shot that. God damn, come on, baby, we're outside. Were you come back? We might come back. I don't got my own school as I've been doing this, motherfucker, how are you doing? Look what is that you're drinking? Mama? Please please don't confuse your cup with that ship. Yeah, I'm sorry. You know I love you, Mama, wanna not so much? Okay yo, this is let me tell you. I want to make clear why I have a major problem.

It's a publicist because she promotes fear. And if my wife can be scared, who the main person she's gonna be scared of? And then after that, who my kid's gonna be scared of? If you promote the idea of fear and reading every single comment and being her ear all the time, giving these mid level suggestions. Not one suggestion I will ever take from this person, but all

the suggestions I gave my wife. Now she on the cover of Vogue, Now she a multi billionaire, but now my relationship is And then whenever it's something about our press or what the kid's names is he part of putting information out. But then she overed my house and I told her on the phone a week ago, I said, I'm being nice. Yeah, I want to keep playing with me. If it's up, then it's up. Because at the end of the day. I gotta protect my children at all costs.

And if they're using their version, I'm using my version because guess what I could get Noory number and what's my and what's my daughter name? Noor By the life one of my best compliments I've ever had in my whole life. He was going to UH to see you perform, to watch your perform. This is the first time I think you did the circle. When he was in the circle and you grabbed your wife. I was with my wife.

You grabbed your wife and you grabbed it. You pulled it over to me and eat cameras was right in my face. I turned red even know I'm brown, turned red, and I'm like, I have to want to say hi to you. And you said this is who we named our daughter after. And that's just the biggest compliment I've ever got. Two of the biggest compliments I love is when you did that and court Mega said you're learning on the job and you win it. And I don't

know how to think. I don't know, I don't know who I get a free Viga song Hold on the more, let's because this is drink so great. Okay, outcast with U G k yeah, outcast for me, Okay, that's pretty cool. Scar Face, ice Cube. I just talked to scar Face yesterday. It's so crazy. And then you know how I'll be hanging with Cube for me so shock. I'm trying to

see who influenced me more. I like Cube better personally, for like, if I play is listening that, but Scarface is more influential to me as a rapper and to everyone is a rapper. He's another important part because when scar Face switches style, when he started turning his words like around like Mary Mary Man, I got to love forming in my life and indeed another former life j ad that Scarf slow just flow. I'm talking about people

who added to the flow. You know. I'm saying it's not a specific thing where people could even wrapped like ice Cube, because ice Cube, until he like really did the a and like added a style to his style was kind of similar to mine, where it's like it was sort of you couldn't pimpoint it, you couldn't imitate it. You couldn't It was just like Cube. Me and Cube is both geminized. You're both saying the same thing. Both from Virginia geminism. Wife's of Gemini take the specifically Geminis. Yeah,

Gemini's got the most goats and wrap though. So basically you're saying, I'm saying taste like my you know music is I love both of them, Bob say Cube, but I'm saying Scarface it's more influential as the rap because he added, like you gotta look at wrap like it's the NBA and there's certain people remember Kobe us to shoot up like this, so like AI, you know, people

have added things to the overall game. You know, the half of the NBA is like number twenty three, it's you know, people, and Scarface added something to it that people don't pinpoint enough. And that's specifically when he did that. I would like to get into the science to wrapping, the science and music we can. We're gonna get um Travis Scott or kid Cutty kid Cutty because Travis is a mix of me cutting and Rocky Jesus. Okay, Little

Baby or the baby Man. While I was saying, it's like no, because they both are equally adding something new to wrap itself, like it's mad people that wrapped, like people just wrapped like little Baby, like listen to so many people just wrap like little you could pick wolf wolf pick, ok you can pick take a shot if a big bolt you sound like you said both. I'm gonna go with a little Baby because I did say

little baby is my favorite. Because the thing is not just hear his wraps, you know, he was on it was a concert plan and it just it just put me into a mode. It's like he hits something and you know that's what like wrapping got it And that's the thing. If nig is that's what like rappers, I feel like lose that ability to really put people in that mode where they want to like do better at business, workout, create whatever they want to do. It's like if you

lose your because it ain't nothing. It's it's nothing. I said in his interview, that's not what I would say in this interview. Yeah not yeah, not that I wouldn't feel. And I think it's interesting that it comes off as shocking in anyway because I'm not really saying nothing shocking. It's just like you know, you know, John Legend gonna always show up and just do whatever the folks tell them to do. Man, you know, it's that's not a shocking thing, man. Okay, Tang w a um, definitely Wu tang.

Would you have me stumped if you said Wu tang on myb D We'll take them d L. They're both from Virginia. All Right, I'm gonna this one. I'm gonna go or ghost see shan Well ghosts because I'm a little bit more on a spectrum. I'm a little bit more on the craziest side of things. So I have a tendency to have been emotional in the past and to do things in an emotional way. And the funny thing is people say out to interview that, oh, yeah, you made it harder for yourself. I said, now, I

made it easier for myself. Don't text me, don't. I don't want the cap like period. I don't like caps. I made it. I want to simplify my my amount of friends. You know, my people that I go over the crib or to they spot and stuff. So yeah, go ahead them, Okay. I wasn't ready for none of this phone flex kick apri oh snap DJ yeah, funk flex because it was a part of you know, have people have hoop dreams, you have rap dreams, funk flex voice or he played, I still be like we got it.

We played Oldis there is no Oldest without funk Flex. There's no There's no Fabby on the album without funk Flex. I heard him do the freestyle on funks Flex and got him a jet Yeah yeah to Atlanta that Yeah. I was like, yeah, I wanted to be flu out. Yeah. So it's funny because Chris Rocker we had the song. Me and j had the song Ham, and I was very into that tempo, the sixty or one, that tempo that Nigga's apparents eventually end up being and put people

did not like. I remember Boot called me like, is that show? He texted, that's your first single? No? Ham? Was it Ham? Now? Mind you? Ham was the first time we ever saw the Givancy Dogs because we had givanci Ricardo Ticia had designer that did the gold cover that was doing all the rock Wilders did that cover. The first time you ever actually saw the dog was on Me and jay z first single Ham. So we I remember uh Lebron was losing in the championship um

and it actually said Who's watching the Throne? And I took a track off of what was gonna be my album follow up, The Dark Fantasy that I had heard when we all was at dinner and it was the oldest sample and I chopped it up and I was gonna go to Milan to do something in fashion, and I was about to be late for the flight and I had to Doncy snap back on in the tank top and the mercer just chopping up Otis because I was like, Yo, we're not gonna lose this game. We're

not gonna lose this game. No matter what, I'm gonna give you all this. We're gonna I took a New Day off on my next album and took Otis on my next album. And we got into this big argument because he had this song called Holy Grail that he had justin Timberlake saying, and I was like, we need to put this on this album and then he's like nah. And that's why everybody knows Jay is very selfish. And we had a very like come on, jay Z man, we all love we all love him, but he's very selfish.

And that was he'll say, like, man, I'm selfish. I'm selfish, so um, he wouldn't give that song. I'm like, man, I'm giving all it's just saying this. Holy Gerrel was originally supposed to be on wing. No, it was supposed to be on his album, and I said, we need this because we all need to be losing, like how Lebron and then that just lost in this championship. I

wanted to make that I'm better. He wanted to say that it's something that I heard that that's when y'all fell out, because like now, we fell out many times with my brother. Okay, so whenever you do some j ship and I do some ship, we don't say ship. That's in real ship. So um, when I get lifted, I don't know what y'all legend waste just came up. That's the drinks. So um uh So anyway, um, what we're talking about got you got mad about that. I was like, how I'm giving all this and you ain't

giving the equal amount. And I find that in life period, I find that, you know, I love Jay so much, just like I love the city of Chicago so much. And it was always like the same thing with Jay or Chicago. They always wanted it to be somebody more gangster. They didn't want it to be ya. That was with Kim. Maybe she wanted to be a ball player or something. You know, it was like nobody wanted it to be or you know with the Elas group, but differently they

wanted to be somebody is more controllable. They didn't want it to be you know, uh, they didn't want it to be yea. And it's always like this uphill battle. I still, you know what, so funny. I just couldn't ever a race the way to T would look at me sometimes when I go to the to the studio, and I always felt like it was an air of that, like no matter how big you get, Nigga fuck you you know what I mean, Like that kind of thing. And that's how I always say, that's how he always

makes me feel. So whatever I like get mad at Ja, I get mad at to the same time. Always like I kind of pull them into the same thing because you know, you'll never forget that, you know what I'm saying, Like Nigga was wrong with my polo type, you know, like you ain't gonna look me into a throwback. I'm gonna keep my polo on. Actually, But they wrote people all the rout Fellow Awards because I need right though talk.

Because I would go down to Atlanta and they had the mintel and stand in the middle of the lintic small and I take my little producer money and I was just I'm a Garmento. At the end of the day, my family made the first bootleg Louis Baton Jogasus because they would like uh, when they would confiscate the drugs inside the Louis the top as they cut up the bags, my family went and would take the patches and put

them on the clothes. So that means like when they had Howard Hughes died and they called it the Aviator. My film gonna be called Garmento because I am the biggest person, like I said in every interview, ever been in the biggest person e existed in fashion. You could google it. For the past three years, easy has been the number one most google brand, most valuable brand on the planet. Don't hit the horns or here, no claps. I'm still I'm steal in the Mrs Something back. But

somehow we we drifted to Uhi no. No. It was something in the train of thought that I wanted to say before I got to the thing about my family, just talking about the throwbacks. Throwbacks here, so I would come back to baseline and I have like the astros all or something, and then j I'd be like, you know where you get that from. I was like Atlanta that I come with another one. He's like, oh, I

come with a third. I said, what you look at that line of So also, Don c always been like on like that, you know, hype beasts kind of like selling clothes online since day one, back when the back when the letters was green on the computer screen, and he would be buying stuff for cheaper and fab would going by his throwbacks from dons. And it's before Don

became a manager. But by the time when me and Don came together, we really That's what Jim Jones would tell you, that's what we revolutionized it because we used to sit there and be like, when we get money, niggas ain't gonna be able to see us when we get this money. And it was me and Donna just be sitting there like, yo, we get this. And when I got it, I went to the Louis store, got all these Louis bags, started doing the shoots with that I even bought like the Louis swage. I kind of

looked like this jacket and stuff. It's this one shoot where I got the glasses the jacket, the Louis bags and he's like, what are you doing all that that that Louis Lugett yourself. I don't know, it made it made me feel regal or something like on something coming to America type uh type vibe. So now don got a store right now. I'm in the process of you know, I've asked nicely to give my home Valenciaga store because

I like my pool. You know, sometimes people say that go to Balenciaga stor and be like, man, they don't look like how you can be looking and this and that, like and I'm like, your means your pick pick clothes that I picked. That's the officially affiliation with the Valenciaga because a lot of people got mad at Gucci when Gucci came out with this the lips where there was mocking black people. A lot of people thought that. But Laciyaga and Gucci, Yeah, it's the same group as France Ropino.

It's one of my favorite people. I like, no, this is my These are my um what do you call um? Not counterparts, but like when you'all work in the same field, your peers, Yeah, these are my peers, you know. But nord I know it is my peer. Piano is my peer, Rose is my peer, Elon is my peers is my peer, jack Ma is my peer. That's just want you all to understand who my peers are. All the rest is did okay, okay peers, Steve Jobs, Disney Hughes Okay, okay, now yes this is the same company. But man, how

about we start owning some stock or some land. What we own braids? You can't have braids what we own the n word. You can't say nigga, but you can't buy your house. You tell us about what they can't do. The person they own the block and say what they want to say. And we're talking about this are block. You don't own the block. And you know how you own the block. First of all, it's saving what you're financially doing it. It's it's the way you're taking care

to block. But that's easy for me to say, right, I had both my parents. I'm amazingly attractive and talented, you know, but we are put like we say, crabs in a barrel. We are in a barrel. We not we now put the forty acres in a mule. And the more and more we look at like the numbers on YouTube. But this, you know, the you know busting. I don't even got him. I don't even gotta watch

right now. Pastor gave me a time X. I had that one where I had like this, uh, I actually bought it that day and I gave it away that day. What was that You missed that giveway? Because no, it's just pastor and he hadn't. What I did with that watch was when I was taking I was at a church called Grace Farms since uh, designed by these architects I love named Sana out of Japan. This is went boom, so that ship at the bottom of the screen. So

the pastor was talking to me. He's said something. He's like, man, you know why racism because he's a white pastor, so he want just instantly talk to me about racism. He said racism wrong, it's because you know, God don't make junk. And I was thinking, like, don't say it like that. Man, don't very like those met your explanation for racism. But this man I'm talking to him about Man, I want tom, I want to pull my family back together. I'm assuming

this interview is not that helpful to that. But the I don't think. Yeah, I think so because I gotta get the people about the life that shouldn't be in the life. And that's my wife at the end of the day. So it's like I'm using because by the way, I can't do nothing illegal, but this is legal, ain't it. So I'm the priest of my home. So if I need men, I need to get up out there and to publicist to get out there. That's what that's my that's my family. That's my family. E that's my family. Hulu.

That's my family, Hulu. That's my family, Hulu real ship. You know I'm saying, y'a said it killed me and George Will don't care about black people's up now up up and this and this is my family also. That's that's why I let me, let me ask this. One of the one of the beautifulest things is my family. And I said, man, you do not make your first song the call asks I always want to make a song that if I'm going through the airport and people sing my song, it's my theme music. When you go

through the airport, everybody screams out, gotta make it. So one of the beautiful things I see you do is at the DMX pass give my tune stung at the DMX pass. You're not only um you know, did design the shirt that I got on right now, but you also attended to the feud this good circle. The head of Balenciaga designed that shirt, the head of the and that's when we started building a relationship because he did

a Halloween costume. For First of all, he worked at Easy season one, so we were all minute with the head of Blissa Yaga worked that Easy. Yes. Holy so we're in the we're in the um and the apartment where my wife got robbed. Yes, so just before then and inside of this we got Kim trob the head of Skims used to be creative director Easy. I brought over the Skims. They had these weird black wire brawls and stuff like that, and I was like, I'm gonna

give you my creative director. Because the people that you in business with, they just trying to use your name. They don't really care about the product. And you see, that's how these numbers guys are and then they start seeing people other products. Alway said, we care about the product. Okay. We had in the apartment you had Jerry Lorenzo you have Virgil Ablow, Yeah, Kim Schrab you had me, Yeah. A few others don't have Lue Set who's the head shoe designer at yea Z. Now we have Mark Minor,

we got from Nikes. They had the easier des Didas. And you have Demina the head of balns Yaga. That's what I'm saying. I'm a community builder. I'm gonna put together the right people at all times. But the people that have in the past been in a position of power gonna try to separate j and Dame, Separate my

mom and my dad, Separate me and Virgil. You give me see the pattern that makes it impossible for black Wall Street, but Wall Street, you know, forever begin simply because I thought about it the way Kamen said, I thought of our community growing where we don't or we not forced to make the choice of whether or not we can afford to have a child. We're not forced to say I'm had to you know, I'm gonna have to kill this thing because he said this and this that.

You know, you never hear about Jewish on Jewish crime. You know they'll kill each other in business in a different kind of way, but not actually physically taking a life. So with me and Q went into business on a big three. What I said, I said to him, I said, what we have to do to honor God is we're gonna be noble when I killing each other on business. Business always be like thirty page contracts and us doing and getting something. I don't negotiate. I don't do a

contract that's more than one page. It's very hard to get me to sign something at all. Why I need to sign something. I pay cash. I don't even pay monthly. I just pay. I pay half and half. Somebody like I want, you know, three a year or whatever. I'm like, give me an account number and then get that one fifty and in six months if you did a good job, you get another one fifty. If you run out after six months, and then we just ain't gonna be working

again until you apologize. Because I'm the most uh forgiving person, because I still believe in you, even when you being less than you. I gotta realize if people take advantage of me, that's something that's them. They lives being taken advantage of something. You know. Because I'm a walking vic, I'm a target. I just say yes to anything. I just can't say no. I'm here to only say yes. That's the key to life. You get what I'm saying that,

yes man, Yeah, yes man, I'm the yes man. Anybody someone you want my When me and my dad bonded, my dad used to have to say, I'm working on this water purification center. I found this new spot is gonna cost us a million of bottom land. And he my dad is pitching to me. My dad ain't had to do one thing for me. You don't have to do one thing. Nut, You ain't gonna do nothing. That's all my dad ever had to do was nut. He ain't asked me for nothing. Nothing else he made me.

I told my dad Da, I said, look, call Andre. Who's my cousin. Who's uh? He used to work at Earnest Young. I'm always screaming at him. Um, he as accounting right now. I said, call Andre. Anything in my account is available to you. And if you spend it all up, I'm just gonna make more money. Wow. Gee. And that's a multi billion dollar situation. That means every dream that the real Steve jobs. My dad had. My dad the real Steve Jobs, but he didn't make gold Digger.

He didn't get the easy he didn't had an opportunity, But guess what he made an earner like hoop dreams, like when somebody's son make it to the league. I made it to the league. My dad is a Christian counselor. My dad's sleeping homeless shelters and council people. My dad has a water purification center in the Dominican Republic. I'm just my dad. Everything I do that has any kind

of nobility in that place is of my dad. Anything I do that's an entertainment is of my mom and my mom and education because my mom is, you know, educator. So what I'm saying is, but I would be a type of person that's making my dad give me a PDF. You my dad, I know, I know how bout your girlfriend's city. Where did we go with? But moving forward? Right, I know I know what you use some of that money? Moving forward because we spoke on the phone. It was

a great comment. It's not things that a man of God should do or saying. And one of the things that you said to me was you're out of death Jam And I felt like you would later being out of death Jam and changing your name and like the same category and what's the what's the question or that? Because I'm so what My question is why? Like after all these years, what are you doing? Moving forward? You're gonna be independent? Like is your next album gonna be on you? It's gonna be on your label, or I

don't just work. I'm gonna go public. My thought that I'm that I have right now that I'm gonna say, I have to put it into fruition to other people can figure how to make it is mine. I have the biggest brand on the planet with Easy with Donda, you know, the richest man on the planets Bernardo No his last two employees used to work for me, So we have the biggest brand. We moved the gap stock by two billion dollars in like an hour when you put my name next to it, and um, so I'm

gonna go. I'm gonna take myself public and create a universal basic income and go public for a t is a trillion but publicly traded public and make a universal not even universal basic income, but universal wealth. Because if every body has a hundred thousand a year, some people can spend it wrong, right right, but it changes what we value. Right now, they're pumping so many logos and so many you know, all the wrong kind of concepts.

But it's inside of us. We collectively our God, we as a collection, God is in us, so collectively we are God as we move, Like when they move around Mecca, when you see that, you see God inside of that, the way those people are moving. Once we move and we realize that we just all have to be on one accord, like to do with Quincy Jones did in the studio. But do that to our life, that we

all in one occord. When I when I go and say something that's about Drake, about John Legends, I'm just tuning the note so that we could play a symphony. M keep going. I'm scared to stop you now, Okay, Holy morning, still thas Okay, this is the last one because I got more over this. Oh no, I got two more. That's it Mob Deep or mp oh Mob Deep, but with Mob Deep my favorite um group, So bringing up Queen's price right now, keeping yeah, mob Mob Deep

is my favorite group. Yeah, and then it's Collective's like a tie between Boutang and Tribe, but it's Mob Deep is in Quiet Storm. It's like you know what, man, I just feel very like just even the way I present myself now, but what I'm doing the the leather, this that just feels very mob deep, had this like slickness to I know, you know, it's like belly to begin in the belly when out here I think about Chrystom high Storm looks like the beginning of belly. And

that's what I love. I had the most Hype Williams videos out of any artists of all time. And you're spending that money. Yeah, I went me and Hype. But good friends. People just say, y'all ain't gonna get along. Y'all both assholes about this. My best best, best best friend is Hype Williams. And um what I like this man? He made Jahn Rule look like eight feet tall. He knew how to, he knew how to and by the way, Rule is tenth feet tall inside. You know what I'm saying,

We kings at the end of the day. So I'm not saying this because I would never say nothing to ever disrespect IRV Gotti or Jah Rule. I've rocked with them. I love them. IRV is my man. Uh if I say something that I said, well, I said with John big Seawan Trap whatever. These are the things I honestly, I just how I honestly feel as far as like IRV Gotti, I love IRV Gotti. Bro, this's just like just I just can't even this express the amount of of So I don't even want that to beat me

taking as like no halfway. But so he you know, he showed us as kings, you know what I mean. It's like when we do these cameras, if you take the camera, we can some of the things I would do is like put a camera this way that goes this direction because you're gonna look like a guy. He treat that camera a little bit lower. And when you said it, my my dad was a photographer also, so he explained that to me. And you look a certain

kind of way. The press, the way they paint us, you know, will make us feel like that's all we could be, and that that it makes our feeling like that. But Hype went in and painted us a certain kind of way. And when you saw belly, they made sure it wasn't one. After that, I did them to listening sessions, right them, three listening sessions. This ship was the crazy shit ever. I brought my mom at home to show g d anthem like we just it's up right? Was

it was there some listening sessions after that? Could Live Nation figure out the listening session? Oh oh, we gotta open the next spring, Hyke Williams. I'm gonna take all that making people look like who they are. Ship about of here, get down on about it here better. Elon mus Nicola, Well, I gotta say, Ellen, you know, because we'll be too. That's another thing we'll be too. Like in the past. Bro great, tests look great, but you know, Ellen, making my cars now, Elon making my rockets now, Elin

making me smoke weed with my Joe Rogan. We're Nori over here, like not not mine. We are what I'm saying. It's like it's like Black History Month. Cancel right put this put this on black Twitter right now. Yea says canceled Black History Month. Why I need Black Future Month? I need Black possibility, Muff. I'm tired of seeing us getting hosed down. I'm tired to talk about slavery and how we should only be so lucky to vote for a woman we ain't seeing since the election. Jesus, I

can't go there. Large large Professor prem trying to get off funs. Y'all thought, I aren't gonna get killed by I'm doing everything I can bro, No, we can't. No more black. This is here to remind you of who they want us to be and now who we really are. Bro the over and you know when I say they who this is overlapping. They the collegue we talk about. They don't want you to eat. Yeah, yeah, because they don't love you. They will put up with you, but they do not love us in that way, and they

are afraid of what is inevitable. You ever seen the kid in ten mm square in front of the tank. Yo, as I got a gun pulled out on me, like about three weeks ago. I was out and uh Belgium because I had the full mask on, so it was a white mask, no full black, full mask on. So the cop came. But when he came, he had the gun out at the beginning, and I was like, well, I guess this is it. You said, No, that's just what I thought. I was up because if he's gonna pulled then I don't play with I want to see

my mama. I don't say God used God used people like this. You know that I could come right here and let y'all know, y'all entrapped and he made it nowhere y'all aiming at the wrong people. I love Drake, I love Drake Lucy And how you like that one? How do you like that one? I love Drake Vivendi. How you like that one? I love Drake Disney? How do you like that one? On? Y'all collaborating? Listen? Come get me what y'all going through? Y'all meet to me.

Y'all come up with some type of scare. Y'all come up with something and try to take me. No, God had me for a reason because if I was at Nike, you think I have been ever wear a red hat? Do you think I've been able to have an opinion? You think I'll be able to show you we can't have an opinion. That's all you needed to see. We are not immune from who we influenced by. Right here, I'm here to like light it up, then I'm gone. But after an interview like this, I did my job.

But if I hadn't come to you and said this and kept it to myself, then then God couldn't have used me. You know what I'm saying. I only fear God as I said, and I'm not always obedient. You know, it's a lot going on. It's a lot going on out here. You know what I'm saying. I fall short. They say Moses killed the man and all that, you know, before God called on him. Man, our freedom is first of all, let's do everything we can to keep our children.

There's a foundation that has been started, actually bumped into the gentleman um whose dad started foundation in Israel that gives money to women who are thinking about um not having a baby. And that's the exact time that I'm on. That's what we on. That's what we're only on. God time now somehow made it this far man, you know, to be able to give y'all this information. Yeah, praise God, bro,

And that's I'm telling you. I know. It's also kind of funny when I'm talking about John and Big Sean and you know what it is, it would be sunny funny. It's like people, it hurt. It hurt us. People who love me, like Charlemagne loved me, but he had to, you know, put Biden on the thing. And they think about this happened when Biden when remember he said, Charlemagne, if you didn't vote for me, then you're not black.

Well you that showed you. That showed you how comfortable he was and how much they talked before that, and you know what must have happened afterwards? They got room like John, I supposed to be showing that. Y'all like that. That, y'all like that that y'all like that, John Legend, Sean, this is some ight, four bro. This is mind control, this populationship control. Rise up, man, look inside of you, man. So we're going with laws pro or premo premo. All right,

this is the last one, m j O. Prince. We can drink for that. Yeah, you know that's gonna be equal. Okay, you like help keep Yeah, I do that. You know what to do that we help him off, you know, I put him on drinks. That's cool. Michael Jackson met Michael Jackson, Yes, I did. So you meet Prince to

because Prince so this. So both of them were fighting a fight similar to what I'm fighting, but they were fighting it for their for for there to be more Michael Jackson's for there to be yea, for there to be drink is what they fought for. So now what I'm fighting for is the ability for there to be e Lien's of us, for there to be Bernard our nose of us, because until we're at the level of our no, we're gonna be clapping for just getting a job,

for all no attiluity to the level. You know what I'm saying When when Lebron when the championship, he looks at this white lady that owns the team, that says, I told you it's gonna win for you. That's the part I don't like. That's the part because if you're king, then let's be kings. That's part. We're starting up our own league, and I'm here at battling for us for our freedom, to be able to build our communities and not being a position where we have to kill half

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