Episode 280 w/ Ja Rule

in O R? What up is d J e FN And this is drink champce motherfuckering yappy right now. This was our second guest we ever had on Drink Channels. It's been my friend forever. We lived down the block from each other for ten years. I actually got to see this man's success bubble like he he was like a go artist and he moved on the block. Then he became ten million. He still lived down the block. This man cars changed drastically. He had six cars. I had six cars. My six was not like his six.

He had a may back before may back was a baby back. This is a factor Reno Countless continuously number one hits legend. Dry stands on his own with this group, but he stands on his own just win against what rightfully can would have been very It would have been drastic how they went the other way. A lot of people betted against him, big facts, but he stood out there, he stood the test of time, and the people have

chosen and said, this is the Victoria. In case you guys are listening to this show, guys are driving, you don't know who the funk we're talking about. We're talking about fucking love Love my brother. Okay, listen, listen to f and you know how we do this week. We usually asked a couple of questions before we pop a bottle. But this is how we do this a special occasion. This is a special occasion, a special Yeah. Yeah, we blended him to deady D said yeah, yeah, yeah, this

is what's doing. First goal, I want you to pick your bottles, so you pick your grammy Okay, okay, I'm gonna go saying new gold bottles look good but good. Yeah, but you know you girls ros you know what I'm saying. You can do the flowers. Yeah yeah, then you get your old bott over here. We don't shoots. You don't

do that. Don't kind of teat somebody with nails kick nails from you know, you know you're gonna give me a night and shout out a crazy boat for them prime dude crazy Okay, yeah, I mean one of those crazy that's it. That's just crazy crazy. Yeah, I need you. But you know what they know what you're gonna doing.

Does somebody know how? Yeah? Yeah? Because and then two videos nothing there, that's your weed in there, getting there, all right, that's gonna come all right now, riding up, hold on, hold on you you gotta take every little piece, every little thing that we do. That right, come on, don't don't nothing, you gotta all right. Okay, now he's he's doing it right, Okay, Okay again you and I don't know, I feel like you pick up something. Way it's gonna drink MS okay, right, boys, it's just grinding

the funk up though. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're just dumping in them. Yeah. Yeah, there you go, there you go, there you go. Come on, let's get it. Let's get it. Take it, take it, take it, take it, take it. Take a Compete grinder Compton Grind that's one about a thousand of them things. Yeah, yeah, he go take that too. You know, let's keep it all together, all right. So yeah, that's that's we are, man. Well, that's just what we do. We just need it. We don't take it. I'm a

papa goal about it though. So I'm gonna one of these so one of the I can talk to you about acting, I can talk to you about wrapping, but I want to focus on these verses. I want to focus on that is that? Okay, people, anybody les, let's focuses. Okay. One of the first records you came out with, sir, what record was that? Which one? The first person? It was you? J and X the murdering This murder Okay, that's just murder. Okay, yeah, y'all nigg is ready. And what I had to start off? The dog were in

the mecca. You know what I'm saying. We're in the garden. You know how to give the rest in peace to the to the dog man. Look he's looking at you right now. Look at the dog. Makes a noise for the dog, makes a noise for the dog. I actually actually nicknamed uh that theater. It's called the Doghouse. Now, so anybody want to go and versus you're going to the dog house? Is this really near? It's real and near, it's not. It's not you know, Queen's You don't drinking

from the bottom. I'm a cup type of dude. But it's okay, let's okay, it's bottom match my pants. Let go. So so I need to understand how does this happen? Fat Joe calls you, Swiss calls you, Triller calls you. When where was you at and what happened when you got the call? Okay, I'm gonna tell I'm saying that. So it was, it was, it was. It was in the morning when I started getting the calls. So the first call I've seen that I missed. I missed the calls. I missed the calls, and I looked at my phone.

I see a call from Swiss. Swiss don't usually call me, you know what I'm saying, unless just you know or you know whatever. When I've seen Swiss, I said, wait, wait, a time going to fast. So when you see Swiss call, you said immediately first and you don't know what time it was, and you think it makes calling you out. Na, I'm thinking I'm thinking said, because let me flow, I'm not not a real sh is. The real shi is. Like I thought it was double dude, because that's the

verses everybody's been trying to make. So I was like, oh, they got him to the table, you know what I'm saying. So then right after that, I looked at my next miss goal. It was fat Jail. So then I said, okay, properly jail, you know what I'm saying. So then I I called the who do I called first? I think I called Crack first. I definitely call Crack first. Cracks going on, you know what I'm saying. I wanted to see if he was the actual opponent. I said, Crack,

what's going on? I said versus? I said, okay, you know, so it's me and Cracks. You know, Me and Crack talked about you know what we're gonna do, how we're gonna do versus, which was cool. I said, yeah, let's let's, you know, go and put on for the people. Let's do it, we brothers. It would be great, you know what I'm saying. They're now called Swiss and uh Swiss was like, yo, you know you want to do it? You want to you know, whatever. I said, Yeah, you know,

I'm with it. You know, but in the access time frame, had the locks and dip set already battled or they haven't, ye already this is fresh, This wasn't playing out. This was recent. But they we put this versus together in two like two weeks, working up two or three weeks. They called me this is the date. I was like, bad, let's let's do it. No, it wasn't really I didn't really have real prep time. I guess, you know what

I'm saying. I don't know how everybody else got there, you know, alert that they were doing versus in advance, but because it comes I was, you know, I was straight. I you know, versus, Like I said, versus is what it is, man. But it's no longer friendly. It's no longer not when you bring niggers in the garden, it's yeah, when you go into the doghouse, when the doghouse, it's it's the doghouse, and you gotta go in there, and you gotta just in case you feel, yeah, you know,

I'll do that was the open up. Ye. Yeah, that's keep going. Yeah, but you know, it was, it was. It was definitely one of those things where it felt like a real heavy weight fight. It felt so I used to box too, so I know it's like to get in a ring with a person, you know and spall whatever. You know what I'm saying. I ain't box like that, but you know, I know how. I know how it feels to get in But did you talk about that in the stage, like we're gonna it's gonna

be a battle. We're gonna put that on the stage. It's gonna be we're gonna be against each other. Yo. So at first it was like we brothers, we're gonna brotherly love it out. I'm like, yeah, whatever we could. Then as you know, it went along, it was like, okay, okay, we gotta he went for the kill. We gotta. You know what I'm saying, like it's saying while you're doing versus no no no, no, no no, even before before wants to exactly, I don't. This is my brothers over here.

You see how we talk to each other when we're playing dice shoes, right, So you get it. So I get it. So I but I'm walking in there, I'm like, that's not personal. And I not for nothing. I used to me and me and the dog. I used to go around in battle too. That was where I came from. That's why we you know, the doghouses. It's the same that we used to have, you know, the locks me. You know that was you know, up in Yanker's with D and Wind and were going the doghouse. What I'm saying,

and we we get it in. You know what I'm saying That a lot of people don't know. Yeah, because they hear. They hear the records, you know, uh, the number one records by the way, you know what I'm saying. Um, they hear the records. And I think that was like the illest thing about versus was I guess people thought that. I don't know. I'm just saying. I guess people thought you was a sucker. You know, I guess. And I'm

your friends, so I know the difference. And I've been fighting for you for ten years and saying, no, I got it wrong, what I'm saying, but how I can't fight everybody, And for lack of a better term, that's what it seemed like the crowd was won over. It's like, damn rules still to his ground. I'm not to as many devils. You don't know me. Now you know me. You know what I'm saying, But it make some noise for that, right I'm not but like you know, I

come from the bottom. You know, we all. I don't know, like that's every black man's story, struggle. I wish it wasn't what it is. We come from very very humble beginnings. Drain and boris you got quick time of slim, you're gonna do it like I don't care if you grew up with some grass and use in a house. You're still poor. You still and use middle class. You want sunny, drain, you want sunny, you want sunny. My bad he was

still considered poor. So we all come from that. I don't like like it, like when no crackers making the jokes and ship like. You know, I forgive the other dragon destreats. I'm like thereats whether fun? You think out from Beverly Hills like I'm comfortable there, I live there. But let's be fair, you've you've been making a lot of Beverly Hills rackets. So that see here is what I want to clarify. Let's clarify the ship out. I want to clarify. Let's do it as an artist let's

go and pops music. It's all make make music. I make music for the world. So when does a rapper and they started rapping battle rapping and then you know, starts to create records that are bigger than life? When does he not become a rapper anymore? And why does he not become a rapper anymore? This should make is proud, This should make my fucking rap nick is proud that a nigger that came from that can do that and

be that. So I think the narrative is fucked up when you look at the nigga like Dre Nigga's looking tra like like he's like some nick nigga. He ain't saw it on that mic, Nigga Nigga go, I think he I think buff that niggas fit. I think of fighting on that I talking to I'm talking about on that mic. That niggas talking about that too as well, on that mic that point to be played with you know what I'm saying. But because he makes a certain

type of record, niggas looking at it his sucks. That's always been you know, out thing in hip hop, you know, because we've always been the underdog. We've always been the outcast. So if a rapper made it bigger than what that is, he was commercial or he was you know, the only rappers that didn't really get that stigma was like run DM. Everybody else got that ship hello, but everybody, he ain't commercial.

He's going. You know what I'm saying these niggas is these niggas is fucking masters a ceremony man Bob Smith's and and and and we shouldn't do that to our legends. We shouldn't do that to our icons. We're the only genre that does this ship. Were the were the number one genre in music right now. That says a lot. We've overtook in country, We've overtok rock. And that's because artists like myself and and and other artists are able to step outside of that peripheral box and do some

other ship than just two turntables in the microphone. But don't get sucked up. I do that very well, you know what I'm saying, And that and that's what versus. Let's lets you and let you fucking personify, let you go out there and and illustrate that to the world. And I think that's the importance of versus. So when I I wasn't battling fact, Joe. You know what I'm saying. I was. Let me stop right there. I know he wasn't battle a fact, jo it was. I know you

was battling in the world. That's this is what I'm saying. You know, you know what I'm saying. I was. I was going out the world everything I'm believer he was going to hate hate America. Your motherfucker America. I just want to y'all got wrong. Y'all got this fucked up. You've been talking that said, and so I just hope everybody you know now that they experienced my stage show and my passion for the art, for the music, for the coaching. I just hope now people understand why I

am this, yall. I love motherfucking hip hop. Hip Hop allowed me to put three motherfucking beautiful kids through college. Got to love hip hop. Goddamn. I will never denounced hip hop. Goddamn you understanding. And I'm never gonna sit here and say I'm a pop artist or I'm or I'm an R and B artists. No, motherfucker, I'm a hip hop artist that's able to do all of that. Ship. What's what's wen do name loy Wood Tango Tang. I don't want to go on, but my honey, bud something

of that. I thought that you were the first hip hop artist singing on the record Grandmaster cast out on the first and that seat and said it was Hollywood and he had and I knew that record. Okay, you know it's crazy because I was gonna give that. I was gonna give that to Curtis Blocker with Daydreaming. No, but that that's before that, that's before that. Yeah, that's why.

You know, that's that it would take a hip hop his story and thinking that big hip hop to tell you that because you know what I'm saying, I don't know which one of those records came first, but he would, you know what I'm saying. But let's be clear. But when I got to also tipped my hat to to Curtis blow because he definitely the first like song sung by a rapper was Daydreaming. Curtis block I gotta give

it to that. But but look, just what I think it's important about everything talking about is that it's not whether you could do crossover records or do pop records as a hip hop artist, is if it comes natural to you. And that's the thing. There's nothing wrong with someone being underground if that's what they do. Good. First off, he's here on a Friday night. That's white people, night after day, white people like listen, I've never been a

Friday and live ever ever, Thursday, Wednesday. None of that ship something. So you know, I'm a nick nigga, Like you know what. They don't let me in finding something different from different. Man, I'm telling you so a lot of people don't know that rue like, um uh, this is the Top forty tours that happened every year, right, and if Pap is lucky, I would be on two or four of them every year. And I remember one year you all know all of them? He was on every Top forty tour there was. It was on one

tour one time. I think he was the only black dude there. Like it was just all, how does how does that feel? You know what I'm saying, like being able to to be like almost o J. What I mean by that is, I know this sounds crazy at one point. At one point, right, he wasn't like how do you not lose yourself by being on a show with Katie Perry? And I'm always black. I'n't gonna get in front of a whole white audience and do destiny. But you know what I'm saying, I did it that

fucking versus you know what I mean. My pain gonna be death for me, but to be loved is my destiny. My black people, I'm where I'm at because this is the beauty of Jahu. I need to be me, you know. You know what I'm saying is I get to be me anytime. I don't have to. I don't have to put on it for sal I don't have to dress a certain way at a certain way. None of that I need. And sometimes me comes across shocking to people. People the shock that I played golf. People in shock

that I do. You know, I went to fucking Harvard and and and you know, got my fucking you know, my certificate degree? Bullshit? What Harvard? Yeah, wait, we gotta make some I'll be seeing you in your golf tight shirts. I'll be seeing you. I like golf. I mean, golf is relaxing to me. And you never played, and I'm a competitive person. You ever with Brad, I don't go. I don't call Brad. Let me stop. You ever play with not Yeah, I gotta I gotta play with face.

Face is really good. Actually, you know, I'm gonna be out in Houston. Um um this Sunday. Man, maybe maybe I'll maybe I'll fix And he just got kidney. He just got a kid Yo. Plays uh fantasy football together. We're in the league and ship. So we played. We actually played each other. And this Sunday for me and we're gonna I'm in Houston, so we gotta show together. So we're gonna watch the game together and hang out. So what did he say after that? The Harvard what

is this Harvard shit about? It was, I took a business course and you know, Entrepreneurial Essentials, and you know, it's it's a really cool course to take, you know. Um but yeah I passed and then got my Harbor certificate for for that for that course. But you know, these are the things that people don't. No, I'll realize about you'll who I am, But I get to be that. I don't. I'm not. I don't shy away from that. So it's like, you know, when when we cracked, you know,

he hits the other stage. He's like, you're gonna go see me Chris Brown yeah, nigga, I say, nigga, what the singing? I never, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not. I'm not ashamed who I am. I'm not scared to be me. That's why when things go wrong for me, and I know that I'm on the right side of history when it even when they went wrong, I ain't scared to come out and show my face and be around and be the same person. And I am because I get to be me because I choose that. I don't.

I don't, you know, And so that that's important for all of you, your young new artists out there. Be yourself, man, be you do what the funk you want to do. Go ahead, I want to fucking pink snails and We're addresses and all that ship. It's not all for everybody, everything and for everybody, but but if it's for you, do that, express yourself for yourself, you know what I'm saying. Like I like the little lies ex Dude, little Lisa, little Nasacs. You know I caught that. I look, I

look at what he's doing from artistry level. You know what I'm saying. If you can step outside of everything else you know that's going on inste the dude makes good music, you know what I'm saying. He does, He makes good records and and and I think sometimes people get caught up in what people doing personally and then personal lives in the personal time and don't get a chance to love and and and you know, experience the actual actual arts, you know what I'm saying. But we

don't do that with other artists. We don't really do that with you know, like entertainers, like if you know, musicians and actors. You know, we don't do that with Kasso and Baska. You know, we don't do that with them. They get to beat them and they were flawed as men. They art still sells for millions and millions of dollars. It's not they don't get canceled. You know, they didn't live to really benefit I know, but it doesn't matter

in this day and age. If you did something and fucking thirty years ago and you're still around or whatever, they'll fucking get you now. So it's like, you know, it's just it's just it's just one of those things where I feel like, you know, us as a culture, and I says, people, you know, we can appreciate the art and sometimes exclude the arts. It's tough to do. That's why we need to put on Kelly Rex said night it's tough to do. It's no, it's tough to do.

Eversation about Listen, this is a good talking I need to hear this. I need to hear you and Joe talking about aunt. Kelly and I need to hear this. Mark, let's go. It sounds like a bar Joe flawed. He's got it's a flawed man. He you know, he's he's going through his problem. So he's gonna do some ship. Yeah, he's flowing. Nobody's perfect. He's flowing. And I'm you know, what he's done is what he's done. He has to account for his you know, his his things these time.

But do we throw it away like like Bill Cosby, did we stop really watching the Cosmy show? Come on, you can tell me I gotta stop watching Cosmy show. I'm just saying this is this is this is to be able to separate the separate baba the same thing like what he did for the culture, like cut deep, cut deep right there, but this but this is but this is you know me and a matter of conversation about it. You know it was like, Yo, we're gonna play you are, Kelly or you are? Said, yeah, we're

doing all. We were playing all you know whatever, Oh all right, we're doing on. I said, I was gonna play unless you play it anyway. I like you throwing I was throwing on because it's such a it's such a touching subject like and and for me it's even touch of your subject. And you worked using the studio were all, no, no, no, here's the crazy ship. Okay, I rute my part, insented to all the same. You understand nobody does that. No, he's saying yeah, yeah he

said that, and Joe said that too. He no body sends are anything to say, I writes the fucking hooks sends back to everybody. But why you actually me if I know, like, I'm cool, you like just going on? He said, right like anyway, an you know what Trum saying to me? Right, you know, we all don't know us know we us know, but we do know a little bit a little bit. I don't know. Ship. You tell him, sorry, said you knew. Yeah, he said, we're

coming back to the back. We're not. This is this the game that we do here, By the way, our normal stabbuds out here, get the get the jo let's go on the joint. Oh flower, let's go, let's get ya got real flower thing of the second person to receiver were out here, we got gold bottles and gold flowers, and think they got the frill flower. I like those flowers, Padelia bro. I like these flowers. Come on to receive these on drink chance. That's what I'm talking about. I'm

always number two. I'm saying, yeah, I'll get you all. You don't asking the phone the first time? Come on, Look what's your name on it? What's your name on it? And go on, let's fahi man, go on, man, make some noise. I the fucking jobs. Dope, No, not a dope fucking edition to drink chap. Yeah, hell yeah, this last few years dope ddition to drink Chaps. And I'm sucking honored and and and appreciating. Okay, I know your second to grand master cast. Come on you that, come on,

come on, so Job, I'm your friend. I know exactly how you live. I know exactly you know. But it was a it was a perception. Yeah it's over for y'all. That's what people would say. Job is not this job is not that. But then some people, some people champion what you're doing. But this also I told you, I told you, I said that. A unique thing about job and your fans is you got die hard fast and you got die hate fans like you like I hate him. And this might have been since it was murder, it

was at the top. Since the murder, it was at the top. This might have been the first time I've seen just the crowd that you'jectually we just be fully on your side. Like I was so happy. I was so proud because I'm a street dude, I'm also half a nerd. So I'll be on the internet like, yeah, I go ahead, I'll be wanting to see anybody. And it was like the whole world like went from almost against you to old that wouldn't me, Like everyone got there all around you right now. Is that how you feel?

Is that what you see or no? You know, Um, that's a that's a a great, you know, assessment of the whole city. I do see it that way sometimes a lot of a lot of times. You know, I lived, but I also live in my own world where I get the gross but the internet don't matter. Yeah, people don't act like that person people, you know, if you love me, that rule. It's basically, you know, I travel the world and it's like that, you know, so I

get it. This is a swell of people that have that you know whatever, but it really lives mostly online for me, and so when I don't want to see the bullshit that's still flying, but it's like, you know, I get it here and there, But after that, I do feel it's like a a feeling of we forgot

almost we forgot you know, Big said it best. You know, they love you, they hate you, and I was time for the love again and and I and I feel like I feel like it's it's a people they're starting to feel what I've been going through and what the whole situation was, and they see it a little bit differently now, which is school grown now high school? When when when when the ship was was was hitting the fan, But you know, now it's it's a different thought process,

it's a different feeling. And you know, I think switch to I hate him, I said, yo, man, I want to I want to say think because Versus is an amazing platform. This is after yeah, because he hit me, he said, Yo, congratulations King, amazing Swiss second gratulations. Okay, so I hit him back and ship swists, young man. I just want to tell you what I'm saying. I don't have Tims numbers. I want to say this right now for Tim too, because he's a part of that's

a big part of that um. That platform is amazing and what it allows artists to be. And do you know I thank them for allowing me to, you know, share my passion with the world, because that's all I ever wanted to do making music. That's all I ever wanted to do. That's who I am as an artist. I just want to make dope ass. Like when I make all of these records and I write all these records in my eyes, in my mind, they're like instruments.

Their voices are the record instruments on these records. To me, I write these songs, I heard voices in my head. I hear different artists on them. I write them. I you know, I hope I can get them to bring them to to to bring this to be that vessel to bring my words to the world. And that's what all of these amazing voices are to me. All these amazing talents are their their their their, you know, other instruments if you will to welcome to drink. Tim, what's up?

I hang up. No, We're gonna make this happen, he said. Yeah, says something Tim boy King or something maybe. Now I was giving you your flowers, man, you know I ain't got your numbers. I was telling them how you know, I got a chance to just tell Swiss that, you know how how amazing a platform versus is and and how you know I well, I just want to say thank you all for letting me, you know, gives my talents to the world and share my passion with the world,

because that's all I ever wanted to do. That. I want you to and when you get on that day, bring them out. Yeah, listen, Missy needs to do one. Man, Tell tell Missy to get in there and do one, because you know she she don't. She don't, she don't have to, you know, the hater on her like I do or nothing like that. But but I think people need to motherfucking see her stage show and experience what she is to this motherfucking industry, to this to the culture.

Right we all like, I'm I'm happy I was able to do that. You know, you know what I'm saying, because because motherfucker's forgots. You know what I'm saying. You know, say Tim, So I'm glad I got a chance to let niggas know many job. Yeah, man, yeah, man, man, I ain't need to talk to you that night. I'm about to catch Yeah. Thank you, my brother, Thank you, my brother. It was a good night, man, it was a good night. I appreciate you, Tim. Love love that's

what we do. Want drink chance understand I'm saying what you throw it out there? You know what? So what we were talking about before that, I was into it the vessel, the vessel. Oh yeah, you know we we could get off that we're going to something else. But I was just talking about, you know, just in music and hap did you feel this was like a reintroduction of yourself to people? Let me, we introduced myself, not to me really, you know, like like I gotta, I

gotta just versus is a heavyweight fight. And I'm gonna say that again because most artists are not friendly like me and Crack. They don't have you know, relationships, speak on the phone like and so getting in there is different. You know what I'm saying, because now it has become I'm telling you, it's become it's no more celebration. But no, but it's also become Let's be clear, it's not a celebration. It's a celebration. People want to win more. Ain't celebrating.

I'm being honest. I'm inside me to relax, and I'm just it's no more celebration like that is what got guns like celebrated. You're trying to kill. Hip always win. You trying to kill and hip hop will always winning these battles. But that's politically correct. No, no, no, that's the real thing. Because but what it's being I love that it's becoming a showcase of more than just your records,

more than just the music. When you're performing in front of a crowd, it's becoming a showcase of your showmanship, how you know, how you command the stage, how you who's who's you know who, who's holding the fucking room. It becomes all that too, And that's what Versus has becoming. Its started, I'm gonna break it down, started when Jada got drunk and Jaden Fabris in the same room and Jada realized that Fabri is too smooth and too cool for school. I don't think that's when this started. This

started breaking down. Let me break up. I'm going I'm going there. And because everyone like damn Fab got the same amount of records, Fab is just as good. Why And when Jada commanded the room, it's set of precedence. I don't know how to say that word, but you know what I'm saying pretty well. But you know what

I mean. It's up press you the first time. Then dip set in the box was set off the whole night, can't And on the beach ship, everyone thinks that Cam kicked the styles people not realizing the houses pulling Cam off in a friendly way. This is not this is not like Camo's like me, so look like Cam is kicking them. But that was the presidents of this is not what we're doing. You're not laying down on a beach chair. It's not going to just be this easy.

So from that moment there was no more celebration the audience and is what makes it. The audience is even foul. What are you talking about? Yelling out would and listen, I'm gonna be honest, job, I gotta be honest. You're my brother. We really down the block. I said, damn, how he's gonna do these girls records and dog cows. There's nothing but dudes in there. I know there's nothing but do rags, waves, blades nah, and for coats. Nah. It wasn't up, showed up, showed out here and showed out,

and so did the felons. Don't let them know I was there. I was watching the fetters singing, singing like Mary's I was wanting the guy, yes, yes, take something like canarithing? Man? Tell you something? Man, uncle, what what? What do you say me? Or people back? Because I adn't say it. Let's go my niggas was getting pussy to Ja rule music. Man, get pusy to jab rule music.

I'm saying, when it was out and popping expressing ecstasy at the same time music started seeing job music go together like everytime John come from time about listen, I'm gonna be honest with y'all. I'm looking y'all on your face. If you took an ecstasy, what what a y'alla? You ain't get you, y'all y'all, And somehow I ain't gonna lie job. I've seen I've really seen the shift and you because like you really like when you say, baby, I'm not always dead when you call, but I'm always

on time. Keep keep it going, keep going, And I don't know how the fund do you write ship like that? Like like just just let's just go into my frame a job. Are you now, let's just be clear. Are you writing this say that for the niggers to relate to it? Are you saying nah, let me not the ladies?

What are you doing? So? So it's a contrast, it's like opposite the track, right, So if I have a hook with a beautiful voice on with my raspy voice and I'm talking nasty ship, it even analysis you understand, I get to talk my nasty ship and rather whatever I want to say. But this makes it all pretty, you understand. No, you got way too deep for us. Anybody else don't understand need sweet like that. There's nothing

really clean about the lyrics that I spit on these records. So, like even the Jailer record I started, it must be

the ass got me like that. If it get any fatter and rule I have to get out of It's that's clean, but it's I'm talking about her ass, and if it gets fatter, I'm gonna get out of It's like it's really like you understand, but it gets gloss tong or what I'm saying because she's like that fun, she's her voice sounds angelic, is beautiful and submit and so like sometimes when I hit my voice over radio,

it's comes across very, very loud. Even when I watched the verses back, like she's my voice is every big and I was a little horse that night, so it was even no. So so what's crazy is when I'm horse, it makes it that much crazier, like would have been a little toned down, so you know, you know, everything was a little amplified because it was a little horse.

But whatever. But when I watched that, I'm like ship it's very aggressive, is it can be intimidating almost So the female contract came in in my mind, Here's what I'm gonna do. If I have a beautiful voice over the track, or I have a beautiful voice with me on the track, it will take away from the fact that my voice is so overpas trying to balance it. You have to have balance and everything. You have to

have balance in life, in music and relationships. It does have a fucking balance and so that was my balance. A lot of people don't know that it gave them a fucking secret on drink chance, because that that is a that is a very big secret for artists that are making making records to understand that that is a fucking balance and that is something that people will adapt to and and and and you know, I wanna want to sing, you understand, because they're getting that balance. They're

getting You're giving them the bestival worlds. You're giving them these lyrics, and you're giving them that harmony where they can, you know, feel free to sing and it feels like it's not that degrading or raunchy or whatever. Not that my ship was that crazy, but I was allowed to say things that other artists may not have got away with two on records, you know what I'm saying. So so basically, you're doing best of both worlds before best

of both forms. Yeah, actually that was doing Bestival, but you know that that that was one of my favorite projects, and ship Bestival for us, and they didn't get to do that. You're going to with that project. So that's ship Jada kiss in the building. Man, it's your picture right what you're doing raspby doing I don't know. Ask me, Yeah, what the funking got going on? Raspby, Oh lord, we are drink champs. Yeah, this is even put on the road. What you're doing rap me rather getting goods? And you

know what I gotta sit. You come on, arrasp me. You could have picked up later. You could have answered this. Wrasp me right back. Cool, what's good? Rasp me, rasp me to the motherfucker versus m v P, the versus champ versus Yo yo, raspey, Now hold on, tell him where it's like going in there? It is it the dog house, nigger going in there when you're doing the versus battle on the stage with a live audience. Because we're the only ones that did it this far. You

got it. Didn't even stick to this cript. Listen me and rasked me at the conversation for without did Nigga it was you know, sand I said, listen, got the pointies from me, Nigga, not raspies, not rasp He gave me some good ship. Stick to the script, that's what we said. But I was I was already in that mode. Stick to the script that like Nigga, I got what I got, Nigga, I got these hips, Nigga, We're gonna go,

We're gonna give me these hits. But yeah, nigga, Yeah, nigga, it was a fucking beautiful knight for fucking hip ho hop. W from the crowd. I'm I'm yes, sir, crazy it was, Yeah, it was. It was a dope night. I gotta go the one now, I gotta go to the next one and being the crowd and be I gotta feel it because it is different when you're on stage. You know what I'm saying, you do, I'm damn blacking out on stage, Nick, I ain't even Yeah, they's corner, that's it, that's it,

that's it killing. Let's kill tonight. We here to killer tonight. I don't know what the funk euse everybody else talking about We here to killer the night and the roof stap up, slap up later nigger, it was like it's I told you, it's like getting in the ring with your brother, but like a real boxing ring. But you know it's like, Yo, we're gonna box tonight. Somebody got to be the victor, and I want to be the victor, you know what I'm saying. And we'll love each other

at the end. But next somebody got you know what I'm saying, and it's it's that, it's that whole. So yeah, all this getting into getting in the motherfuck doghouse. Nigga's the epic when it comes to guy, get you get nigga, my nigga, nigga, Holy moly, guacamole. All right, listen, do quick time with slimming. And they were going in what's this is? Tell you it's some new because you've been here from the beginning. God damn it. We owe your chain. The actually you fat Joe and j that we all

you always change. I love it. I ain't got it. Oh yeah, I'm the whole person. Money. We're gonna get out together at some point. You're gonna get of like together, all right, cool y'all ready? Oh no, so what what's your shot a preference? Yeah, we gotta get ready. We gotta yeah something. I didn't even tell you the rules, right, So the rules is showed the exactly what tonight. You don't want to car bones and if you don't take a nap, it's okay. I had I got your whole

day playing out. Nig I'm getting mad. It's meant today at Rocket Rocket gotta relax, I freeze like no, all right, So here's the rules. You can pick one or the other. But if you pick both, you gotta take a shot what you like. If you say like you want to be politically correctly, you take a shot. But the point of the game is is to take You say neither. You can say neither, say neither, and you still got to get a shot. I gotta take a shot of what whatever you want? No, no, no, no no, no, no, no,

that's not shot shot. That's a drink, sir. This is a real drinking all right, you do right right there. God damn, we make a whole proud todayroud. But let's not forget. Let's not forget the chairman. Think pass me. That's not my bigger baby by. I ain't forgetting the chairman. Baby. Hold on someone shoot, we'll give him. We'll do want we triple blacks anywhere. Let's go. This is trouple black ship. Wait wait wait, wait, what's the one one? This is

all right, represido. It will do that big shot? When did big shot? When they can hold Yes, I got some wine coming to talk about it. Yeah, I'm doing I kind of feel like I put you on the wine. Let's just be clear. Okay, Let's don't you tell people, tell the people. I know you come to the bring me hardcore. My body body just killing My body was killing killing yourself like that body was killing me. Okay, So we're gonna get to it. Are you ready? Okay?

I think you're drinking off top, but I could be. Are we drinking with you? If you were drinking with you, we don't. We don't leave you like Okay, I might just just medic you got okay, jay z or nas we're drinking. Um. No, I'm tied to my sucking opigot Okay, Um, I'm gonna go with Jack okay, And I do love nos and I'm from Queens so obviously love Nois. But yeah, I'm gonna going home. Okay, BIGGI a tupap Um. We're gonna be mad at me, but I'm gonnao pap. But

I love Big obviously. You know what I'm saying. But I don't know why whoever did this? We gotta have a conversation. You know who did this? Sunny did this? All right? Did her? Guy? Now I gotta go home? Team got you know what's my brother, we got we gotta talk about God, these comments, this comments, I ain't gonna lie. I'm a fan of just got his that was the whole other like we got told about that he him and Fat Fat fab fab was crazy. Okay,

recording or performing live? Oh, that's a tough one. Let's take a shot for it. Shot a shot for it. Come on, you gotta fighting. You ain't got the fighting. You ain't got the fight it. See, I'm not scared to answer these questions. I'm gonna tied into my opinion. The point I can still love both parties. Yes, salut, that's the way that Salu. What's that? Mama? Mama? Okay, Okay, bout a little kid? Oh fuck, I think you just did. Okay, Nikki or Cardi b Nicki? I love Cardi too though,

and I love Kims. I love everybody. But I'm just picking my picks. All right. You will take a shot to this one, Shanti or little mom shant my sister okay, and I love mo Okay, I hate your next all right, Miami or l a oh in Miami. Right now, world, Let's just be clear, that's a good moment. It's different. Take a shot shot being complicated, they're different. You know what I'm saying. I don't know what the answer was gonna end up. Let's just take a shot solo. Okay,

mm hmm, Okay, Major are independent? Mm hmm. You see him. I told you I don't do a long time ago. I don't think you heard the question I said. I told you along and you I knew you thought he was gonna say major. I'm disappointed. Wait a minute. Listen his thing. He wants ownership, absolutely, ownership is everything. Why the fun the majors? Why do you think the major is amazes you understand? Because they want to ownership of nothing is still Yeah, not to hear it, but here's

the thing. In today's society, you have all the tools as an independent artist that you didn't have, but you don't have the marketing dollars. Okay, I get that, I get spent. I get that, I get that. But if you market yourself properly, right, the majors will come and then you have the option of how you want to you understand situate this actual deal. You you know, if you just go major, they own hold on. But you know, if you're independent, they come to you and then you

get structured. That's what That's what I tell you all the time, so so you can take advantage of the major at that Now it's on my terms. Now I'm disappointed in you. Um, I'm disappointing to you. The majors was the major. I love majors. I loves you're speaking as that came in at the time you came out seasons. But at the time you came and came in. Here's here's what you need to know about independent. You needed about majors the end. You know, here's the thing about majors.

Don't be there. You see what's going on. What's going on. Don't you be talking down about the majors. I'm not mad about the majors. I just feel like that was scary though. I just feel like that's how that happened. Every major was independent. Absolutely, they all have a starting point, my nigger, So why not me? Why I can't start? Why I can't become the major? You understand what I'm saying,

and that's my thought process. That's why I said independent, because there's so many independence I feel like you should take a shot. Let's killed that. You killed that, even though you ain't convinced me, you kill that. How many times have you gotta tell you this? You know, if you build it, they will come. If you build it, they will come solo solo for this cooked tim a slap totally forgotten. Okay, only ship with the joints a man, But the smoke now, I can't smoke this one more.

This one is the blunts, the one that's the blunt. But it's not a blood. It's tobacco free. It's tobacco free. I don't like blunts. It's tobacco free. It's not it's a vegan blunt. It's gluten free. What the fuck it's organic foodkine blunts. Come on, okay, let's go. Let's do Look at that. Look at that welcome hey man, shut out me out here man, Welcome to the Welcome to the future. It's a prototype available in California. That's tell us.

Even give me electronics for ten years you've been breaking up, breaking apart. You'd be like, it's a prototype. Come on, I ain't I do lotto type man. Come on, man, okay, hen us your vodka vodka, well neither, I'm a one wine guy. I don't I did not just say solotle. God, damn it, we're going to carbones on one. Okay, drinking or smoking smoking? I knew that was the answer. Podcast or radio radio. I felt even gonna see that's a major ship. What I'm saying, just like he backstepping right now,

when you pick radio, that's go your major. No, I was gonna pick podcasts. But I still feel radio has a broader reach. If you if you're a top for the artist, it's nothing. You think it still has the impact nothing. Listen if there's nothing like being top forty Z, one hundred, every rhythmic even today, rhythmic fucking this is what it relaxed? Man, you know nothing like that exactly, because that's when you get the Grammy nods, the MTV nods,

those those that's when you do you think one thing. Yo, I had a top Tendon record. I never knew New York had seven stations years ago. I'm talking about right now. Is it still reaching the same audience the same amount of people. I don't feel it it is radio. People

assume people consume music differently these days. Absolutely. I think actually the playlists are bigger than the radio stations right now, getting your songs playlist, the title pay you to come on like, you know, you want to hip hop playlist on Apple or you want the mother insulate playlist on that you want you on these playlists? That is to me right now is more value bull then being on the radio. But trust what I tell you, there's an old god and they don't they haven't adapted to that yet.

So if you want to get Grammys and motherfucking American music was the old girl, and you got a motherfucker's radio to get that, you know. So, so yes, artists don't, don't listen man, strive for it all. Man, I'm not telling y'all to not to want radio. And then I want it all. I wanted like I was telling to Crack the other day and Ship matter Fact was on his live and he said you you came out singing in another round. He's like the fun. He wants it all. Yes,

I want it all. I want it all. Give me top forty, give me rhythmic, give me on beig and he hits on me it all. I'm everything. I'm this is why I became such a big artist. Yes, I was getting hip hop spins, R and B spins, pop spins. I was checking all the boxes and so you understand. And so that's why my records became so big. Didn't Charlotte Mane say you you kept the lights on in the radio stations? Like I think someone said that recently. Well,

I don't know about all that. I don't mean. I think he was just saying that in general, like the records were so big, and at that time, it was, it was, it was, it was. It was a great time. Man, blood is nice thought. Look like it was not a blunt though. It's not to back. It's like a good vegan on the yon day, you know what I mean? Get that smoke champs in Okay, so this is the last one. Okay, god nineties or two thousand's hip hop? Let's take a shot, take a shot. Who want to

play the game? Goddamn it? Come on, Matt, who want to play the God? Damn? I'm drunk. Good Good deserved to be drunk. He deserved to be drunk. So so one part of the night you bring out a shanty. Yes, sir, I don't know how to ask this or how to put this question, but we all you're all family. Yeah, yeah, everyone was good. But I don't think Remy would have done what a shanty? Did that? My? You what do you mean meaning I don't have any records with but

had you had records with Remy, I understand. Yes, see what do you think really would have? Really was over on outside chilling at the halftime. Really, I was like, really, get your ass back over there, going over the side, like it really is love the camps. I'm his family really, you know Vita and and you know uh Shanny and she funks with all of them, you know what I'm saying. So it says they're all cool me and cracking cause the family were all were like the camps are closed.

So it's not like it wasn't like that. But you know, like I said, when you go in there, it don't matter. No, but just just let's just be clear. Let's just be clear for people that don't don't have the access to hip hop. Yeah, absolutely, let's keep you close to both yea. So people that don't have the access to hip hop, people don't have the access to folks. If you're looking, it's like, all right, Shawnee supposed to be on jos side and me it's supposed to be just on Joe side. Yeah,

but you can't look at it like that. Okay, you know what I'm saying because I'm asking this is this is you know, it's a battle. Yeah, but it's also a celebration of hip hop and we have records together. He has a record with the shan Tia. But you know what I'm saying solely of course, so it's not like that, you know, but it isn't. This is why it's a it's an ill fucking thing, yes, because it's like, yeah,

this is family and his love. That's why I said, it's like boxing your brother in the ring with gloves, like we're fighting for this belt. I want to whoop your ass because I want to belt. You know what I'm saying. You want with my ask because you want the bell. Somebody got to be the victor of us. So fighting your brother in the ring, you know what I mean? Like the Kutch goes going up against each other. It's like that, you know what I'm saying. And and

we did that. So where was your birket bags? I don't answer this person's or versus what are we doing? Persons? Like come on man? That that that was? That was? I don't know what I love, I love his life. What was it what what why he gave it? Yeah, explain, I explain that he just said that he he just wanted to show them love. He wasn't thinking about other people. He just wanted to show them love by giving them like he just thought that was a good platform. So

I can't afford that. I can't afford that I'm being something, keeping it a hunted like I didn't my wife don't gotta breaken back. She got a juice ball. You know what I'm saying, Like I've been establish I don't even know what the fun that is. Burger, We're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna make you come outside someone man means on outside side. I think I don't know. Don't you got to know about way about Burkens Man, Damn got real.

I ain't worry about it, Burken. You know, listen man, that was an amazing uh gift from Crack to Remy and and and Shanti was cool. It was let's say something you didn't feel obligated to match that. Listen, man, do a funk about none of that. You know what I'm saying, because let me say something, those were tactics. We're in a motherfucking goddamn battle and you're giving bags away crack. What are we doing it? So that's you know, I listen, I didn't. I didn't. You know, that was

like a police knock. It was. It was just it was just funny. You know what I'm saying. Hear that knock? That was but listen, it was a celebration of hip hop. You know, love celebrating, man. Yeah, we celebrated. I celebrated. Yeah, I'm celebrating right now with drink Champs for the ship Bottle of eights. Got that you got here? Bullshit? And you're doing a quick time cook time over before a long time, a little quick time. Know, I'm trunk. Yeah, I don't listen. So at one point, again this is

not this is Joe cracking my brother. I love him and I know that y'all was battling. But at one point he you leaned over to try to give him a five. Yeah, that's why I punched him in his stomach. Calm down, calm down. Wait yeah, yeah, oh I didn't see that. I didn't see that was lovely giving me a motherfucking pounding. Yeah, that's why I said, yo, yo, getting in there. It's the guntlet. Yeah, you gotta go. The trajection you re changes it's yo. Do you feel

the moment changes you completely once you're on stage. I'm gonna just tell y'all about me like a blackout on stage. I'm gonna be like a man Sanchez in my line to you. That's my TJ matter fact. Come in, said, says, your name is Don de Marco. Get get my chick. Name is Don de Marco. There's nothing san chance you bet you better. Oh, Joe Crack the dollar, Joe Crab. Come on, nigga, I'm talking about you right now. I'm saying some good ship. I want to let you know

I was on your ass, nigga. I love you, my nigger. What's good? I love it? Nigga. Were you in Jersey? Look at this beautiful crip? Look at this beautiful crip. Nigga, Hold on, hold up, I know I better get invite to the Bobby. You ni as you have the block from me, you are the block for me. I got some gifts for you, Yes, I got housewarming gifts. I got housewarming gifts. Crack, I got you. I love you, Yeah, I just show you all on Swiss is trying to

call you know. This is a messendary fucking fucking drink hampster. By the way, this dude, this is not looking new immediate and come on, my damn Joe. These niggas go be drinking Asis Fades, rules and dellyon and smoking the ships. I don't know the fuck's in this ship. Money. You don't take sipsing to me right now. I don't know the ship. What are you doing on? What we do? We did that, nigga? What do yo? Crack? Get that motherfucking money. Nigga, You understand and you don't listen listen,

I better get an invite to the body queue nigga. Yeah, I've been around the corner. I'm up the block, nigga. Hollight me. I'm gonna invite you to my ship, which I'm right here alright, yo, Yo. The house looks so beautiful, man. Yeah, you said I love it. I love it, hold on, hold on, crack, and that's the new one you built. Yes, yes, I love it. It's nice nigga. Yeah, it's nice, nigga. I'm coming over a minute. I love you too, my nigger. I touched you later Christmas calling too. Yeah, we were

on his hills too. Don DeMarco in the building. I let us sing around here. Let me tell you something then sting with junior high school together, get the stand. I ain't gonna lie, Don DeMarco, your high school battle pretty little, your battle technician at facts and test and test soul would happen. Hello, Hello, like that, I'm saying. We were queased, though, you know that we had we had to do what we had to do because it was crazy out there. Terts crazy. He was talking crazy.

He's like, you know, you know that he was against rule, like you said, so we know we couldn't have no hiccups, know nothing at that point in time on that stage the facts. I ain't gonna lie, he answered that perfectly. I just feel like you gotta make noise and you gotta take a shot for no reason. Yeah. Yeah, and by the way, let me just be honest talk to me. I know, Don DeMarco. So when I kept here in Sanchez, I said, who the fun? And it didn't just hit

me to just now, I said, holy ship. He called it, Don Demarcos, What the Sanchez? What is this about? Since junior high school basketball facts, we went this is my brother brother, so that's my childhood name, so as me and Ruth growing up, that's always been my name Sanchez, but as we got older, I became Don de Marco. And then you know, he's still in that DeMarco DeMarco, like that bang bang and what's funny about you? It's used to host battles. Facts, used to be smacked in betweens. Yeah,

that's all you were here? So was this your chance to going back to battles? Rule relaxed. I got this playlist? What did it? You know? It's so funny. So the battle was on Tuesday. I want to say that Thursday, before the battle, Rule has spoke the page six the Daily News, and he told them I'm gonna let my DJ curate the playlist and this, that and thir. I just wanted him to say, you know, certain songs that I want to put in the playlist, but he already

told them that way before the battle. Even so we already had wet facts. Okay, so KNT so then we know we spoke about the list and things like that. But he's money, like, yo, sachion, we're gonna put it together. We're gonna make sure it's right and tighten. And that's

what we did. But we made some adjustments along the way while I was going on, because it was a lot of songs that we knew he was going to perform that we had answers to absolutely like man like Flow Joe, uh like John j John Blaze, Sean Blaze. So what was you asked the John Blaze murder gramm, murder gramm shop with him and Jack's okay, you feel And that was the halftime before the half a little and like like all the way up, living all the way up. So when he played all the way Up,

we knew we was gonna play Living it up. Yeah I didn't hear, but we just you know, we had we definitely had a plan on. We wanted instruction, right, That's that's that's another thing so annoying when you do with yours. I ain't doing. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done, man, I'm done. Man. I wanted to celebrate the celebrating no more that nik is stabbing each other and I without know the nice I'm done, I'm done. I want to, But it's also it's a bad Joe funked it up,

y'all funded up? Gee, yeah up, Yeah, funked it up because yeah, I went to war. It wasn't like just battle. It was warm, and then everyone hugged at the end. But and then act like I saw you stab him? You want, but we just wanted to actually friends, which would you imagine people who don't even funk with each other. It's gonna be crazy, like imagine the East Coast West coast dude against each other. Listen. I used to I used to get into battle raps with Nigs me and

actually go battle rap Niggs. We some of the nastiest ship do we each other face to face right here? Yeah, and then walk away like y'all love it's a bass trap. So that was the mentality I had going in, and I forgot to say, I know my brother really loved me. I feel like you just take a shot for that. I don't don't know why, you just want to take a Come on, come on, man, let's want to take a shot. Take a shot. Let's listen. You gotta get a breaking back. Hello, this is my last shot, motherfucker.

I got ship to do only one more after this, but I got your whole artenderary playing out that guy let me get here sense, Oh yeah, smoke that smoke champ y'all. Let's do it. Hit that Yond day on the Yond day and hit it y'all, y'all you understand a little soot y'allo. There you go. Okay, we talked about the Sean, We talked about the battle, we talked about Have you spoke to Vita since this controversy has

has been Okay, spoke to Via. You know, I don't hold it down, but I don't know Vita, so I don't. I don't. Actually Vida was hurt, she was okay. She didn't go on social media, which is good, which means she's a gangster. Because listen, I don't like the social media. Yeah, yeah, nobody. We were all family. You know what I'm saying. We could, we could, we can talk about these things. You know, record you know I'm saying behind you know, we all have each other's numbers. So I don't really like the

social media ship play player. But it was when people gotta stand, here's about to crack. I said, crap, fuck up, disrespect to these black wings. You know what you gotta do is you gotta apologize on it and apologize. No, mag there's no other there's no other way. You said something fun up ship. You know what I'm saying. He's like, right right, you know, I understand that I want to apologize kid. You know he wanted to to speak them over. You wanted to speak to Vita personally. And I said,

that's the other way you gotta do that. You know what I'm saying. I just don't like taking it to social media and making it public. But what I also expressed the practice, you know, and everybody involved, is what what you don't understand. What I had to learn too, and what you said spoke about learning earlier too, is when you say something that offends somebody, you don't get to tell him how they offended or how they felt

about what you said. And that's the thing that people have to realize when they say it offensive ship, Like I get it. You may look at it it's like I didn't you know, and it wasn't that big that I was just playing or I didn't say it like that didn't mean like, but you don't get to dictate, h how that made that other person feel. You know what other persons going through. You don't know what they've been through, and so you don't get to dictate that.

And and I had to learn that as well. And so you know, listen, man, I'm all I'm all about I'm all about second chances for people and people you know, right their wrongs, you know what I mean, hatee I've been righting my wrongs, but since they don't right, it's more like I've been gathering thoughts, you know what they're saying. But but but but but that that's like the thing that I say to everybody because it's like, listen, you

gotta rein it in. Let's internalize m Let's figure out you know, what was said, why said, and the context it was said, and let's try to do that behind closed doors instead of in public. And because when you were emotions in your sleeve sometimes think that said I don't want to be said like the moment, you know what I mean. And and you know, but that could go further, you know. And so I'm just glad that Crack apologize to them beautiful black queens the way he did,

because it was needed to be done. And I'm happy that you know more also accepted his apology. She said she loved them love me because because I think it was I think it was just beautiful. Yeah, that's the way it needed to be handled at that because I think he just in the moment, I don't think he meant that at all. I know Joe very well. Yeah, yeah, I don't think he meant that at all. But you know it came across wrong and came across too, you know, address that in the right way, you know, uh uh.

You know, when you say some ship to somebody disrespectfully publicly, then you need to apologize for publicly. Yeah, And I think that's what Charlemagne said. Charlemagne said he would have appreciated it more if he would have did it on stage, but he didn't know he violated until he got off stage. You know. You know that's either you know there, but you know, that's that's that's not what we want to

talk about. We wann't talk about, is the fact that he realized that he mann bron he mand up in the apologize and that and that's what you know, that's that's the important bottles what I'm saying, because we all we all go through learning, you know what I'm saying. Situations in life, Man, sometimes you may not even realize that you're doing some ship wrong. Like you know, you look back twenty years. We just say, some fucking really

fascion on records man, that should come fly today. And it's like if you actually look at listen to Joe set his first song or the second song. He says, I don't like ball, so I'm funk with the rucker and you like what not cry? He says that this is inversive right right right, And I look and I'm like, oh ship, look fast forward, just thinking coaches. He loves the wall. But like, like that's what it is. Sometimes your old records, you know, come back and bring out

old ghost because everybody evolves. I don't like to listen to some of my old record cringe should I said, yeah, cringe something that should? I said, you know you're thinking of the the commercial records, but I'm talking about that. I'm talking about I'm some abother y'all. Y'all, yeah, going on. You know what it's on Blood in my Eye when I'm just just just going bananas. Just the blood in my Eye. That's the clapback album. My brother, you you

were too rich to be angry. No, sometimes it's not about anger, it's not about money, it's not about none of that. I'm an artist intent and that's what it was real none. That's a great answer. It wasn't none about none of that, you know. It was about Yo, I don't give a funk. I don't need money right now. I'm making this album because Nigga, this is what I want to say. This is what we're doing. And I didn't make it as an album. That's the crazy to this. I made this a mix tape, but I was such

a big artist. Depth was like, nah, Nigga, wen gabolize on this, we make up of the holds offstand. It wasn't wrong wrong. It was wrong because you wanted it to be a mixtape. Yes, because because I knew it wouldn't be received like my other ship. I knew it wouldn't be received like what I do. It wasn't not gonna go tripping platinum. Nigga, it's not gonna sell four or five six million records. That ship wasn't gonna go platinum.

I knew that. I knew it gonna be a scar on my record, so I said, put it as a mixtape. But they've seen it as a money opportunity. I'm gonna get this money on that because gold to them is money going to me. His money. This money put his niggers. I'm just saying, are you going too far? And I'm just saying they can go on money. It wasn't but I was. It wasn't what I wanted. I wanted to put that out as a mixing, and they see it

as a money opportunity. Nigga, did we have a fucking cash CALLI here, How'm gonna let him put all of this material album change what? I don't know how many songs on me or whatever? How'm gon let this nigger without all of any who saying favoral records? Two blocks, fucking put long claws hold me. How the fun we're gonna let We're gonna let these records go for free. No, So they took it and they made it an album. I didn't want that to be. I wanted to just

put it out. It was my warrior paint album. Nigga, I'm fu these niggas. I don't care about nothing. Niggas just coming at him, coming at y'all, let's go. And I wanted it to be that blood in my eye. Nick I'm living like George. I don't give a fuck. That's what the whole album is about. It didn't turn out that way. But I don't what I tell people. You know, I didn't want to. I didn't want to go there. I didn't want to ask this questions. But I have to because you just you just did. That

was it, And this is real talk. You always took the high row when it came to the beef. Never responded. I didn't respond. I responded blood in my eyes, a response to everything. But what I mean it was it was almost like two years later. You know, here's what people don't understand. Okay, anybody in this room ever faced fal indictment. I don't see nobody shaking their head down. They didn't say yes. So let me tell you how

they work. I wasn't on the Federal time. It was Earth and they put Chris Scotti from the time whatever. If they drained you of everything they drained. They drain your fucking resources, they drain your fucking money, They drained every free your freeze, your assets. They take everything from you. How so so they so that you can't fight them. How you gonna fight a rap battle with one of the biggest conglomerates of the world, one of the biggest labels,

one of the biggest everything in the world. Right, and then your own label. They dropped you too because they don't want to be a part of the lawsuits going. But you're saying death Cam, No, I didn't mean that. That was they threw us like the building, you kidd it be. I didn't know that that was. Oh you know, yeah, I was too Oh for real, I didn't know that

sweat God, that sweet of God right now. I mean all I said, if you don't let these niggas go, we're gonna start looking up under your hood, nigga, Wow, we want to see what's going on. It was like fucking it was, this is what the feds do. So they so death Tam they loved us. Come on, man, we will believe. Come on, he'll keep the lights on in that building. Man, death Tam loved us. It wasn't like we all and we wanted to let us go. They loved us, We loved them. It had to be done.

They had to fucking saveritize with it because it just wasn't It wasn't good business now. And so that happened. And so how am I supposed to deal with all this other thing that's going around when I don't have a major I can't put out records anymore the way I used to do. They're not gonna move the same way. There's no Internet, there's no Instagram, there's no Twitter, there's no fucking sound class, none of this ship nigga. I'm just like, Yeah, what the fund am my school to do?

So we get to deal with some with motown and that didn't Universal didn't want the Universal system. It didn't work out the way we wanted to. But that was after Blood of my eye. Is that when Lloyd came out, was LAYD came out and came out for that, blood came up for that. Okay, that's an after blood of

my eye. You know what I'm saying. And I try to put out um well, I forget what the album was, but you know, it's like, you know, it was just that was it was different, you know, I'm saying, a different, different time in their product. Internet wasn't like that. Social media wasn't like that. It wasn't even existed, didn't exists when he was crazy. Instagram came out when I was in jail. I was in jail, nigger. Instagram wasn't even whether around whatever. You ain't had to app no nig

I was in jail, Like, I'm in jail. In jail, you're either going Instagram and jail man. It's like, Yo, this new ship Instagram. Yeah, I didn't even get it a friend before you went to jail. Yeah, okay, Twitter was out that Twitter? Yeah, my Space, Yeah, I mean I went to jail. The motherfuck eight Ni. He was friends with Tom Nigger. Actually, Tom was at my crib

when he sold. That's the crazy City kid in my crib in l A the night he sold the day after my right sold my Space, and he was like, Yo, John, I think I think they gonna fucking I think I sold for too long. They fucked him. I just think he felt good. I got the billy instead of the five I got. I got mad Champagne left. I'm campaign. You gotta be more Champagne. Don't worry about the simping. Huh, don't worr about simping. Come on, man, you got your

gross man, I'm smoking. I don't even see smoking. You know this is you And he just said you don't see me smoking. This niggas fuck up jellous click smoke blast. That's my nigga, my nigger, Chris Black right there Chrissy black Man. Yeah, Nick Cash what he clicks ship cash money? Click? Come on, grab a chair man, Grab a chair man. Listen, listen over there, go grab and give him a chair man. Let me tell you something, man, how my first years,

my early years, and this how mad? How mad of y'all was the cash money label when the niggas just took your ship and they didn't take our ship? Go on, man, listen, listen. Young dog took about ship man. Young dog is running with slime City. I don't even know you know what I'm saying. Come on, man, I'm gonna keeping the blood man, cash money took your ship. Let's just be click because they ain't sucking. New Orleans were queens and out. Now that we went out like that New Orleans at that time,

I've been a wrong time. And this is my brother, Chris black Come on, man, it makes a noise for Chris black Man as my clear So it's click my group and ship, so let's just rock. Let's just be clear. I want to ask this question one more time. How mad at y'all was cash money when they stole your ship? Stop it, b I was in the can when that cant get me that Chris ChRI they bumked, y'all. Man, they buked, they bumped. I don't believe Chris, you believe

that doesn't It's cool. Were motivated. Hold on, Katie, Harold can make sure we hero. Are we hearing them? Yeah? Put the put them yeah, put it down, put it down, put down for them? Are we hearing them? Come on, iles on, how you but a real, real, real quick that you guys know we celebrating and those birthdays still okay, so you know this is the second time we give roses. But Kevin, come in, man, we got some special Yeah. Happy let's happy birthday for Nori. Happy birthday, birthday. Yeah,

yea something man. This is a fucking dope addition to fucking thank you man Us. On our second show, I apologize because we would we did not have our ship together our second release show. It was it Jada who was no Jada, no, no, no, it was just crazy. Told told Garrod to come at four o'clock. I told Jaden come at eight o'clock. And they both came in. They're gonna be at the same time, and they came at the same time, and I was I'm sitting there getting the haircut in the bathroom and I'm like, do

we separate though? And that was that was an epic put you all together, and that's what started us in the part because because they laughed at us. Fat Joe was our first episode spick up to our brother Fat Joe. We actually recorded Kenny and itself was the first episode we recorded. Person came and sat down with Kenny Anderson. You know, you know it left hip. Yeah, I could tell so and ship, Oh come on, my little bit

many a little big ship. So I gott He hasn't talked to me since the Mike Geronimo episode to my nigga. Mike Gerontimo, Man, he bade you up big everybody. Mike drums a legend. Man. I love Mike. Man it what is what is him and herb? I don't know what is problem. You know they had the issues over you know, I was I was a little black too. He was around for that too. But they had the issues over

producers stuff, you know, music stuff. Mike I wanted to do stuff with you know, large professors fire you know, oh, premiere, You've got him wrong with that, not wrong that these were niggas like it was more like in his area in his hood and ship. But you know, Earth felt like, Nigga, I'm the nigging that these nigs wouldn't think about you when he was doing what you was doing. I'm the nigged that, you know factly, so I kind of I

see both the arguments. I think it could have been, you know, something that could have been ironed out if I was a bigger artist. I feel like I would I I could have ironed it out, you know what I mean. But you know, I was the younger NY at the time. I always just you know, I didn't give a funk. I was just trying to get on

and do me. So I was amazing. But but then he because you know what, you know, because we have different no, because we have a different relationship, man, But I understand me and Michael artist sweet we we we shared conversations about art and what this is and and and making music and dreams of being big artists. We shared those moments, you know what I'm saying, being Mike, Yeah, you know what I'm saying. And and I'm show him and ever have had those I'm saying, share those moments too.

I don't. I don't know, but you know, but I know, me and Mike had moments where we talked about those things and share those things. And he was on the trajectory at that moment of doing that, and I was just a fledging artists like, yeah, maybe you do it, you know what I'm saying, Like like I want to do it too, you know what I mean? And so that's what you know that that was, you know, me and Mike's relationship at that time. You know, as as far as you know Art the Street, we would talk

about Art the Street. And I just think that when Mike put his first album out or helped him get to the status that he was, Yeah, and it wasn't those guys that he wanted to do music with. That's fine, Like you know, I feel like artists are allowed to grow and have growth, you know what I mean. I've never me myself, I've never done any records from anybody. Did you think I thought about a little bit because he was clearly from Flushing and then his videos actually

looked like he was from South Jamaica. I don't, I don't know, I don't. I don't that that ship that that's just my queen's nigga, that's just neither meant a lot to us. That's just I don't know about like, like we know you ain't seen the you don't see ship is really he did very Queens, but I don't like, I don't look at that. I don't know about that ship when I know, but we do though, We'll give a funk about that. Yeah. No, if you would nah, if you're shot, I don't know because hip hop is

global nigga, so I can't. I can't just say wrong at the same time. But you can't rip all the Queens. I don't get Why can't I rep every You can't let me tell you something, nigga. If Fat Joe would have attacked, but he did. He did it early. Yeah, he came up to the bridges right, But if he would have did it, like I was, I had it in my mind, who's gonna freestyle over bridges? Over? Okay you had you had a response? Yeah? Absolutely, I was like, I'm not gonna let that go on my watch. Nigga

from Queens. I'm not from Queens Bridge, but I'm from motherfuck from Queen's Bridge, but were from motherfucker Queen. I don't like this. Slash anybody slap you guys have queens queens right now, everybody here, I'm not. I'm like, I'm not gonna let go on my watch. You know what I'm saying, Like, Nigga, we we queens, niggas. You know what. I'm from the other side, nick without means ship. You know, I'm saying, it's Queen's bridges over a district to our whole.

You know, so I even though we're not from Queen's Bridge, Man up one right, man, pick up the shin, Nigga said, because that was me and me fat Joe thinking that's the Bronx. You know what I'm saying. So good, we needed one on that one man. But to be clear, let's be clear, all right, cool, because because you you win deep, so let's let's just stay there. We needed one.

Or that you said that you had a response to the bridges over, meaning if he would have rhymed over the bridges over or okay, if you'd around a little Brasilves. Something I was gonna do for that, you know what I'm saying. I thought of something, I put it together like I was gonna would have been crazy. I would have brought Shannon. That would have been wild. Would have been. It was. It wasn't a very that would have been. It wasn't a barrow battle, you know what I'm saying.

But I thought of everything. So I'm gonna tell you start the fifty fifty would come out. I thought I had something for that too. You thought that could have happened. I didn't think Joe would go that, but you was was now was war and that was really war war And now like cracks my brother, he's not gonna bring him out, but I thought he might maybe try to freestyle over like like like in the club or something like that, you know what I'm saying, like to get

the crowd reaction. So I had something for that. But you know, you see he mentioned candy show. I produce candy shot, you know, saying So you know, this is what people don't understand. This is a This is why I said, we're in the doghouse, motherfucker. This is a rap battle. Like it's like real, like even though it's my brother with brothers, it's a real rap batt And if you've ever been in a rap battle, motherfucker's say, ship that's nasty, dirty like you Yeah, but but but

it's at the end of the day. This is our sport. It's more like a sport. It's nothing personal. It's not disrespectful in the way of being. So that's how I sit because I come from that. I used to do what I'm trying. I used to do this ship, Me and X used to go to the next video shoots do all that ship was battle nigger and d widely. They sick them, get them, you know what I'm saying, Like we dogs and ship like were just like a dog. But that was you know for me, I'm like, this

is the school of them seeing it I'm from. And I don't think nig's really understanding. I don't think niggas understand where I can't hid. I came up in this ship, you know what I'm saying. Like it was it's lyrical exercise. Man, it's different. So you know, I've seen Bust to the night of MTV board your Bust Talk. I seen Joe too that night. I've seen Bucks Bus. Are you ready? I'm ready? Buck, So Bust, I'm come from different cloth. Bus said, you know, I'm come from that cloth to

I said, you are busts over show. You know what I'm saying. I said, But I'm cut from that cloth, nigga. I'm you know, and crackers the hell of the m C. But I don't think crack ever was a battle round MC. I don't know. I disagree with you. I think he was a bad rap. Okay, okay, I don't know that. I don't know his history. I don't know it. Yeah, I just get um. But did you know you was the underdog? Yeah? Kind of short up. You know what I'm saying, Because I felt like he's crazy ship. I

like crazy ship, it's crazy. I felt like because Practice was friendly with every like the industry, that the industry wanted to crack the wind and wanted them to you know what I'm saying. And I'm like, and I look at it. Let's just be clear. You're also declaring that you want of course, okay, but I'm just saying I don't have to. I don't got to spike the ball. You know. You know what I'm saying, You gotta touch down his room still walk away. All I'm saying, that's sick.

Maybe I'll spike the ball. I don't even jump on you know what I'm saying, the ball. But but but I'm just saying, like I just felt like, you know, everybody you know rooted for for the but what's just fine? You know what I'm saying, Like I said earlier to somebody that you was disappointed in, I was disappointed to about, Yeah, what do you want to root for? You know, we all have an opinion. You know, I don't give a fuck. You know what I'm saying. If I could change your opinion,

that means I made you believe you understand. I don't know where we're going, but I'm just saying it like like like like it's really talk when you when you're in a boxing match and everybody sorry, sorry, so we got some special we got home. Everybody makes a much for a little more. Please what amazing? And I love like we love Cycermon. We love Cycermon said, what's up to? You know? We don't what's good? Baby? How are you feeling? How you feeling off? That off? That motherfucker versus stage

was good? So you already know, Like I was excited to actually because the stage one or six apart retired the video let him. I got to say, I ain't got to say sometimes you ain't got to say. It was good energy, amazing, engy. It was amazing. Ensy, I'm glad. I'm glad. You know you would Crack had your chance to. We know, we all talked about Listen. You was the one make up kissing. That was my text. I sent the text of both of them say kissing, make up.

But you know, because because I feel like we all family, and I think things sometimes things play out social media don't need to play out that way, you know what I mean, especially when we can. But I also let Crack know that you don't you know, when you say some hurtful ship, you don't get to dictate how a person feels or how you made me feel from that

comment or things like that. So you know, I'm just glad that you were able to you know, yeah, now let's go get this money until a nigger maturity because yeah, so bigger. Everybody has differently, so that went to the part was just like Listen markets are fans of like everyone, so when they saw what was going on, it was just like, oh my god, we love fan. I was just like you, we can't go I like this, so

you don't know everybody I keep seeing this. I didn't know that it was a run up like that, but it was like, you know, I didn't want that to take away from you know, to be on the stage. Listen, let's sen, let's sen listen. You didn't do nothing wrong, Queen. You understand me. You didn't do nothing wrong. Queen. You you you you you you. You expressed how the funk you felt, you understand it needed to be addressed. You addressed it. Crack also addressed the way he needs to

be apologize for it. And and and this is what it's about, man. Sometimes we make mistakes, we do things, and we hold each other accountable. That's what the fund is supposed to be about. And I'm glad that's a hip hop community. We was able to put that together, grasp it say this was a moment that needed to be handled in that way. We ain't want to disrespect each other that way. And we you know what I'm saying, No, we ain't gonna do that. And we made it right.

And Crack understands his mistake and he apologized. But you know, like I sold him to, you know, public humuliation deserves you know, also public apologies. Yeah, public apologize. Yeah all up? Yeah? Did I think everybody could honestly say that you want that person yeah, take away you music industry. You stamp and like like you did your thing, like y'all bounds.

What's you? What's your friend? Who place that? I'm glad to be a part of that song that I appreciate must love you know we love you you Listen, man, I popped up on your drink tamps thinking it was only right. I love you, thank you, appreciate you, thank you. So John gotta act straight up? How good do you? How good do you feel right now? Good? Man? I feel good? Especially have all these drinks yet it take shot shot? I was crazy, but get a shot? Yeah,

shot a shot? Goddamnit? Held hold on. Anybody want mama, want anybody? Anybody? Nobody like wanted there? What the fun? Man? What's you're drinking? What's that? Dominicking? Mama? I can't. I wish I would have started with a little bit of yeah, yeah, with a shot cup. I got with a shot cup. More one, a little more, Let me get, let me get a shot up. I'll be grabbing and taking nat We're gonna live to three in the morning that we're going to call gonna eat, and then we're gonna taking nap.

You get the little show see you get another table, that cap on. You know, I take care of my niggas, no problem. Yeah you cap On, I don't know. I don't know about a whole another table like they can get him. Ship is real. I know it's you're going to get four. But you used to come on, man, I've never said I don't never said that we're making because our show was about pick up the all gay

food case as well, you know what I mean. I can't in the building all right, So it was like cracking the eighties six he said, So let's just let's just let's just describe it, right, because I've I've never done a verse. Just try to do a verse. I tried. I tried, Man shut me down? Who shut you down? Anybody? Not one nigg accepting my call? Man. I tried a

CAM at first. Let me just tell you something. I hung out with Cam and a cigar cigar ball, and they played CAM records for two hours, and I said, I'm so glad this nigga ain't bite on this ship because I would have been the first, even a bodied me. I'm gonna be honest. I stood in the cigar ball like Jesus didn't I know, I brought him. I just kept playing, and I'm sitting there like, oh think I can just like my mind. I'm glad they ain't fight on my ship. I invited Memphis Bleake, I invited Beans.

These niggas ain't cold. These niggas got my real number. Your beings would be dope. I would like that. I think I'm gonna go because I'll definitely washed him up to the rock with them. I never signed to the rock, sir, I sweet ship. No big still madded me. Let me relax like when you do. They never got the big man. Yeah, say that makes you say killing it ain't such a good dude too. Man, that was killing it man at the at the at the mp M. Yeah, man, it was dope. Man. You still go to the vm H.

I don't know a lot. I don't go if I presented at the VMA, do you know? Do you know how new not eleven crash? Wow? You knocked on my door, nigger, because I made you know I made I made many days that morning that day the ship. Okay, my wife waits, I'm recorded raining days. Nigga. You never give me my engineer credit, he recorded. Listen, I want to see you don't press this Button'll give you my credit. I want to hear your side of the story. Yeah, can go.

So so my wife cross, he says, hey, baby, baby, planes hit towns my way for talk about She's like plains, they're going to trade center. So she turning to teeth. I'm literally see. I'm like, oh, ships in the round of the second one. He's going into this ship. So I'm like, oh my god, I'm just sneaking in my house. I'm watching this this thing was he was extracted out fat. This is a whole fat. I'm sneaking in, right, she said, I'm yeah, all right, I'm you know cool, I'm watching

on TV, scream like this is trazy. All day. I'm watching the ship and I get this crazy motherfucker No, this nigga knocked on my door like this down. I'm like, I'm looking at Rue. I'm like, oh, he's the ultimate like good guy. Because like she doesn't know, I just block. But see what happened, was my my malandager to he he had walked from the Brooklyn Bridge. Oh, this is

a smudgle on the space. Is the craziest ship from from smoking the smallest ship was crazy and our kids went to school together at the time, and he's like, let's go get our kids. I'm looking like this nigga is the ultimate wing man. This nigg is good. I don't know he's really saying that I was went down. Well, yeah, he wasn't believe in it, No, I thought. I think he was just he saw me sneak in. He was like, anyway I wanted to be. I felt like, this is

this after you want to report after them? Yeah, because I felt like this is the world needs to understand this moment. It's a rainy day. Can I take the story from this point? Brother? Look, first of all, use the bathroom wizard. Hold on, finish the story. Use the bathroom day right here, right listen. At this time, there was a lot of ecstacy involved, and you're telling me, hold on. This guy was going in but the y'all live up. Y'all just got a brand new studio and

his basement. He had hit factory and do dog. So he's sitting there. He goes this, do you stop me f I'm wrong? He said, you don't press this button right here. I said, I'm not dural at all. What is we doing? He and the nigga went in there is that. I said, this nigga high and you weren't this nigga. That's it turned out that rainy days, I say, wait a minute, wait, so wait more bringing out when the twin hours happened, y'all was he had the melody to the ship. We lived at the block. We hung

out every day, every day, every day. I've seen it, so it was like a normal thing. So I wanted to record that day that inspired you or no you already I didn't know, and I want to record I didn't. I don't you know, just hit the button. You know what I'm saying. I was literally did hit the button, nigger. And because we was over it was something that happened, and it was later the day, come on and don't

know what I'm saying. I want to record something, and that was turned out to the rainy days turned out because I wanted to express what I was feeling, what we were going through as a tree when that happened to me, who hit that button? That was a very talented but a quick sidebar to this is And then I did my I did Rap City the Basement with Big Tigger the day before and and I believe bt Suitors was very close to the Twin Towers to the

World Trade at that time. I don't remember the original bat Suits, not the not the DC ones when they moved well, I mean, I'm from Miami, so to me, it was all very close. But I went and visited the Twin Towers and I flew back, and I woke up from flying back American airlines to that and you're picking up American bro. I'm just saying that was one of them that was on the play. Definitely not funny, it was one of the play I'm just saying. I mean the way I felt when I woke up, like

holy sh I just flew back. Ya, let me go take a pepiece time ship. Okay, See, niggas could get car phones, get car phones. Residation. I don't see nobody with car bone, carbone bones, car right, yeah, yeah, yeah, carpone outfit, yeah, little car bone, nigger stocks. I just without nigga. Would it look like that? Can you have work? Are you worry? I'm on drinks and nigger yeah? Makes yeah, I'm a little you know, you know noise with his bullshit. Yeah,

just know me. Huh, I'm good. I'm good, though, man. You know, we'll talk about that victory. Talk about that victory, don't about that big yeah, listen, hold on, hold on, hold on, you need to talk to fucking Nori because nor called me the next morning after. But he said, let me say something. He's said, Nigga, sometimes you know, niggas don't know if you got he's still cool your brothers. And I said, I don't know, how is that, but you know that's my nigga. He said, Now that needs

to be knowing. And you said, he said, but if these ain't know, they know the night nigga, they know after the night Nick that niggas in the comments going half how didn't see the comment? Hold on, I need you, hold on, I need you that this conversation with you know, no, I know you was my nigga. I know he was holding down with your brother, but hold on, I needed that compation, you know, because you know I was telling me like nigger. It was comedy in the comments. Hold on,

hold on, hold on, I wanted Rude to know. I'll say, you'll listen, man gott he went at every single first everybody needs a friend like you. Listen, niggas got like a friend everybody. I never seen anything to go to war. You went to war with it, you know what It's like. I know I shouldn't say nothing. You know it's old, but I don't know. It's just me as a human being and as a person. I trying to let nobody talk. And they're talking. If it was real cool, that's what.

But I'm like, yeah, I think it's it's talking and like your hero ain't what what you're thinking is nig Like you know that. You know, it's just so much that they think I shouldn't say nothing, and you know I should take the high road and ship like that. Yeah, we gotta say ship got it like that? Yeah. But at the same time, no, I'm you know, they're talking about rule and and and saying shit about rule and rules. Just he was just smashing you know what I'm saying.

First with the battle, you know, Cracky is our brother, right, but I personally thought it wasn't a good battle because I knew Rule just got too many smash records, right. And then but when he did puns record, I'm like, what the fun is going on? That's not your record? When he let Nellie perform a record, it's like, what the fund is that what's going on? You know, saying if that was the case, we could have had a shanty do mad of her own records too on behalf,

I almost got it. Let me tell you that he went to hold on almost let almost let a shot. No, no, no, I wasn't. I'm not gonna do that, was you mad? Let that be the Nellie and a shanty hug. I went to what everyone needs to know. It's like me and Nellie is like cool and ship. They don't know that it's no thing like you know what I'm saying, it's no thing with a shanty. It's like that's completely like over and dead. And I'm happy for whatever she does. And you know I'm it's not there like like no

me and rules on. I'm on the path there, I say, to become a billionaire, like I think she makes annoys for that makes a noise to that, Like I'm on the path. I'm on the path with music, TV and movies and film with visionary ideas. I got billionaires that's backing me. I'm like, I like to say, I'm sort of like dream works, but the hip hop version of dream works. And I'm moving right. Steven Spielberg, right, Steven Spiller.

But I like to say I'm Spielberg Katzenberg and getting rolled into no. But I mean, you know, I to see I posed the question, and I posed like a question to you and the drink Champs people. I'm I don't know anyone like me like I make the music, I produced the records. I'm the executive. I make the videos. Then I create the TV series. I produced the TV series, I directed and write the TV series. I'm about to direct and produce my first movie. I'm branching out with

Tales and Tales Presents. We Made It in America, which Jay Z and Kanye song That's Gotta People, Tales versa first feature film, and then I'm doing, of course The Supreme Team with Warner Brothers and my dog typ Phillips. But even with that, I'm putting the money up and I'm co owning the films persons. I'm paying for it with my own money and I will own that. Bring into a different stratospheans and executive where you know, my my billionaire friends. You know, they drifted in my head.

They said, God, you can't sell nothing you don't own. So they was like own all the ship, get tonda and own this ship. So now, if I could build my company to say worth just a hundred million dollars, and it's worth a hundred million dollars, I can sell it for one to two billions. I'm not even thinking a billion to normal. I'm thinking ten twenty billion, you know what I'm saying. And ship like that, and it's

widow and it's actually real, so obtainable. Why not? But I just want every want to know, like me and Role, what y'all fail to realize? You think me and Role is sitting at home doing nothing nigga, And oh oh that's so that you out your fucking mind. Like me and Rule is like the real talk the greatest dues in the world. Man, we goodhearted, good energy and also we ain't to be funned with. Ain't nobody counc Oh you didn't live in yeah every and ain't nigga that

tried men get him off the lock. I'm hearing York the loves come and go. I see you letter, my name, my brother loved Okay, you got the love, got you got off the lock when he got him back on drinks. Right, It's been plenty of times the job told me you hit me inside. God, he's going to create go too far. He definitely passionate man on them comments. I really felt his passion. I really felt like he went from that. He wasn't there, but he really wanted to beat it.

Like and I don't see that. I don't see that from a CEO. I don't see that from partners. I don't see that from Yeah, so how developed that love? Like? What type of ship is that? Our relationship is different? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, Okay, God damn it. Come on, we live on drink Champs at night. It's supposed to be to be love on drink champce God damn it makes them know. P John on the phone, hold on, what Sweezy without baby? What King? How you

feeling like how that person's affects feeling for you? Yo? Liga that versus effect is real? N I was you know? I told to tell you know, but I spoke to you about it and text you about it, but U hey, something about swez swizzy, something about come on man. Everybody else at the best I would get only come on the hat on man. We need we need you, We need you, man, We needs you. Hold on, hold on, yeah, yeah, yeah, I definitely didn't look at my stupid come on, let's

see me think up. Noah, he got the one little he got the on y'all, y'all, y'all, y'alla, y'alla, y'alla. Ainybody had it on. Yeah, you give us come on many times. Give him a minute. You got to put on this, put us back. That person is a friend. It's a fact. So let me ask you the question. Ringing your hang up, bro, no, not picking up? You know what you like? We look, it's right there. Look at all of this ship rolled up already? Can you can you come back to the blunt? No? I don't

do you want you do? You know how I mean? You connected when we first lived in the same I don't remember you guys looking at the same islands, A little island in Jersey. Just the island. Just leave it alone, Swiss beachs. God damn, it's tell my brother's eyes eyes. I went on. I see you use at the mcgalla, the MTV, A Wars, the Virtue yet a long weekend, my brother, I'm telling you. Man went out on me. Oh no, let me I see. Let me tell you something.

Hold on I seen the video, nigger. He was like, rude, it's bully in the Bronx right now. I don't like guys. You definitely got your shot off, saying your boot had some excellent showmanship. Yeah, it was amazing versus it was with people. It was with people didn't know they need it so bad. This is facts. This is fact. He was able to get your flowers as well. You know, show me your flowers, get some some some recognition outside of tones. When the Swiss comes, he gets what I'm saying. Yeah,

for shows a whole another chapter for you. And I think it's cold now. It was good drinks. Halms gave me my flowers. Oh they give me flowers for real. Yeah, clowers. I like. I like it. It's come back Swiss. You gotta you gotta. Yeah, it's a new thing. It's a new I was offitted. I was the second I said down. Damn. I'm always the second to anything on the show. You holl word. Where you at, Nigga, you're looking you on your birthday vibes niggah you at. I love you. Stop

fronting on the people. Nigga didn't do that to the people. I love it. Nigga. I love it. I love it, yo. Man Versus is a motherfucking had on a platform, and I like, I text you, I said, Man, I appreciate you, thank you and tim Bo for let me, you know, showcase my motherfucking passion to the world. Man, I appreciate my nigga respect that you didn't kind of have the last minute you would no hesitation, like that's what hip

hop is about. Oh yeah, Like people are trying to get to sometimes and I'm just like, yo, like Pop was always like people, that's it. Nigga. It ain't nothing swiss. I don't niggat. I'm battle to everybody in this motherfucking industry. Nigga, it wasn't you know, you understand what I'm saying, Like nigga, Nigga, I'm nigga, I'm him, Nigga. I don't give a fuck. Nigga. It's love, But nigga got a'm battle to that everybody. Niggas. Everybody came at me, went at me, and I went

at them and was loved and were here. You know what I'm saying. And I loved that. I love that, you know, having that excitement really really love. That's my brother, if you called with you and I thought that was that wasn No, that's love. But he didn't try to take my head off, Swiss. He didn't. He did not try to wind off. Nigga. Everybody love like mm hmm. Can we do? We can be We do stage and creative on stage and it still is love. That's hip

ho hop, that's hip hop. Like I told Nigga, I said, Nigga, we talked dirty into each other in dice games. Nigga, this say nothing. You know what I'm saying. It say nothing. Like so we at the time when people can't, people can't watch everything we say. You know, when Joe, you know, called that little bit of moment, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, but listen, but listen. I also had to check him on that moment because Nigga, you can't we listen we

were doing this, you know. So it was it was, it all worked in the way it needed to work, because like nigger, we can't. We can't disrespect each other as that. And so I'm glad I was at that moment and and and and was able to fucking let Joe know that he made a mistake. And Joe was able to to let people know that he you understand I'm saying like he admitted his mistake. Let me take you one moment. I was really nervous when he did that.

What the fun? Who keep talking? And you fell into that trap when he dropped that beat, I was like, oh yeah, when I wasn't worried about it, Swiss, Swiss, I see you, I tell you, I see, I see. I didn't know he was in the building, but I've seen you in buster commentary. I seen it. Bust. Don't want to give it up at the moment the bus were do you know it is? Nicka? Yeah, Nigga, you did right. I'm glad you ain't doing like what you

told me. What's it? It does not telling like that, Nigga. Listen, he told me he was coming out with the band. I was like, I don't know. Yeah, you right, but no, no, Swiss, let me tell you something. I wanted a band. So everything is about to present presentation. Nigga, I'm the singing rapper, I'm the rap singer. Niggas ain't mad at what I do. I'm Nigga. I'm comfortable with who I am. Swiss. It's no shaming who I am. Nicka come on, I don't

want to bad. This is mother. Let me take something and let's send me take it after we take it after come on your first day YouTube. Yeah. Now, I'm glad, I'm glad. I'm glad there was no room for them anyway on the stage. But but I want people to understand that hip hop it's an art form that is fucking expanded. It's fucking it is, it is the it is the number one genre of music right now. And that's not because we're still boomed back and sucking two

turntables in the microphone. That's because we've expanded, my nigga, and I'm one of them expanses nikka. So why the funk I'm not gonna experience and express my who I am and what the funk I've made. My contributions to hip hop is bigger than just whatever. You know what I'm saying, my nigga. Yeah, everyone was just range energy, your show, we ship, your selection of records, the way that you're communicated with the crowd, and and you know,

and you're not clear around me. Yeah fact, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. I had hard to do it. Yeah, ye said that, to do it. Respect that nigga niggas ain't want to come to the doghouse with me, Swiss. And and let me tell you why, because they know how I am nigga. Certain niggas know for real, for real, how I get down nigga and who I am nigga, And they didn't want to come to the doghouse. Pick up to my nigger crack. That's my brother. You know what I'm saying.

Love is love my nigga. Enjoy your birthday, my nigga's eyes eyes you know yo, I'm here, brother, Happy birthday, burgo brother. You know I love you, man, Thank you so much for everything. Appreciate it. Man, We thank you, Thank you, brother, Thank you Swiss. We love you. Bro. I banged it on him. Sorry. You've been to drink the whole night. You want to take the shot? What yeah, we shot? We got you talking? Oh my god, this is a whole you're gonna shot at. You ain't talking nothing.

You ain't talking nothing. You gotta take it out of Give Jody a little shot of something. Man. I gotta brother what you want. Yeah, I ain't. I drink some much like that's what I drink. You know what I'm saying. You know why you're doing this. Mine these things, man lose hold on. We gotta nigges. We realize about I M. You can't know. I don't put that in there, what you need. Can't mix it all up. Get that solo. Hold on, solo, sute brother DeMarco, I get to play

don demonc out, So hold on. Let me tell you a story. Nor So back in the day, I want to say, this is like nineties, six ninety seven eight D shout the DJ Clue, that's my homie. He had. He had a show on the radio called the Mother Name Mix. It moved the mic to you and uh you was on Poor super Fire at this point in time, and Clue got a phone call for a certain person to want to come up there and wrap and nobody knew who he was. But he was young, fabulous at

that time. Nobody he was tabulous, sport fabulous. He was fabulous scort. So that was clues first time I ever meeting him, number one, So he wasn't doesn't storm yet. No Clue signed him that same night after he freestyle with Norri on the radio. Nor Like it was the night he got signed that so make some noise for that. So North's on fire. Clue says, Yo, I got somebody want to come up to the station and rout. Nobody knew Fab, nobody know him at all. So then Nor's like,

hey're cool, let him come up. Look, let them freestyle because Nor he's about to do a freestyle. So then Fab comes in. Now he does the freestyle and then they go crazy. I'm that from that day on. Now when you see who Fab is that because of Nor Nor nom like you said, he set him up to ask you first, they asked me, and I just I just pictured myself asked him. I said, of course I would let the next person up, and he got on. From that moment he was on, I ain't even lie

to you like I always say. I wish you'll to knew who he was because I would rhyme twice but once he won once and he won again. And that's when cluing them you know which is dope, which is dope. I was on fire. I was already like number one in the New York City, so I went on. So he got discovered by that moment. Yeah, and cluing him sign all that from that moment. And let me just tell you something that I had a chance to do it all over again. I would do it the same

way absolutely, man. I just every time I look at fab, why would you just be looking at him like I saw you from the beginning, like it like almost almost with you too. I'm sorry, I don't like I don't want to Clay in the bigger homie car. But the first time I met you, Cones brought me to you. You remember, yes, st story, I want I want to hang us, thought okay, Leon him said, we're trying to sign this guy Noriega. Think it's good. H come with me down right now. I was hot and come with

me right now. You'll meet Noriega's queens, your queens. We don't make sense, it makes sense. He said. They wrote me in the video that I'm shooting Big Puns video, but you know he was shooting you came on Big Puns video. But that's why I'm like, yourn, I'm gonna meet you before bro. Come on bro like yeah, because he's trying to sign y'alla, because that was gonna bring my hot new nigger out right now. You're going wrong rule to like to like, you know, break, what's that

say called? Break? What's what's it? So he brong because obviously I know fucking ji rous. So he brought the jar you know, had he had the band d on Classic rule. You know what I'm saying, Like he had the band on. So I looked like, all right, cool, so Leo, because Leo that was the flying shipped to me. By the way, they all called me and said, what are you doing today? I'm sorry I didn't. I didn't pedified voice. I didn't mean to pifi voice completely video

he said, he said. He said to me, what are you doing today? And I said, I'm filming the video and he said with two and I said with big pun. And he said I would be there and he hung up, and I was like, wait a minute. He asked me the address he just knew. He asked me a little bit. He asked me nothing. He said, who are you from the video with I said pun? He said I should

be there and hung up. I was like, wait a minute, this is ill, this is ill, like if he actually show up this so I'm just sitting around waiting, like, let me see if Leo show up. I don't know who Leo. I don't know who he is, but I don't know how you look. And then he pulls up in the car service and this nigger jump out first. He's hottest. Let me be on point and it just met him and Leo and then I'm go a little deeper with you. J would the Damna's so sorry man

because he might take this the wrong way. So I get up. I'm gold. I go buy a property to Three months later, chick that sol many the property calls me. He says, hey, you know the model house, which is the big boy house on the block. This is the house that's fully furnished. A lot of people can't buy this house. So she says to me about to sell that to ju y'all was like, yo, I'm not I work too hard. So I'm like, damn, where he got that? Like that true story, as long as it's a true sorry.

I love listen to apologize the way I'm being funny, I know exactly what you talking about because I bought I bought that house turn key. Yes, listen, everything was ready to go. I'm like, I'm sitting back, I'm like, damn, damage there, where is this? And this? I don't know this, there's no I'm just saying I didn't want to live the Jay damnag, it's not that this bro, It's not this. So the rude hit hands because this is this part.

The real must have been like you no, norm hit me and say, hey man, we don't have no problem, Like oh yeah, but he's like, because I'm trying to body. I said that said j Rule. You said this before, and it's the old ship. I don't want. He's not gonna gerald No David coming on drink. He's coming on tomorrow. You ready. I've been ready for what he's talking about. So I bought that turnkey. Absolutely. Listen, this is the model hole. Did you see your name on Twitter? Tell

him the name he gave him on Twitter? Ru Oh what we said? We got one drink chats but you know I'm a hot nagger and they put Rule on drink champs. Everyone knew who I was talking about. Though. Let's make a noise my dumb fast, all right. So we got about two moments like like like yeah, like like five moments, sixteen moments. So what is the actual versus effect? Let's just snarrow it down. I see you got the paddock on with fifteen thousand dollar worth for

fifteen thousand all bracelets. You got the you got the I got the ros gold. You got the rose gold, the gold and platinum and the bullet, y'all. You don't have to make it feel poor. Yeah, that's like jury just went good. Continue to what is the versus effect versus effect? Man? Is is it has an effect? Definitely has and yesterday's prices not today's yesterday's prices at all, solo way up. So wait wait wait wait wait wait

wait wait wait wait wait. I'm very disappointed in you right now because because of course of what the question should be, there was never an effect on drink chaps a chance effect as the fact. But it's not like the No I know, it's not like versus right now versus Jesus lord, it's a showcase of talent. No, this is an interview. What I'm saying, that's different effect. And we made you cool though that is I'm just saying, you just give it something. Job. You didn't give me

what I wanted. I said, give me something like what happened after the dreaming stamp. I was like, and then yes, supercase didn't work out the way I wanted. That is amazing effect as well. No, no, no, but but we brought to you John, we know what versus only dude, You only dude the older news, you know like I only do. Like the real topic is the music game. So take a shot, the champions take real ship to take a shot. This is in your glory. We got hold up, we're doing this. How did you just what

the fund was that spin? To see that spin? That was some Eddie Murphy Charlie Murphy print shit right there. Shot with me. You're going in on that shot a right, Joe, Yeah, ain't gonna respect respect, It's like you gotta do it. M I don't know. That was y'alla, y'alla. You know what I'm saying. Let's talk, yes, and we got to get about it. Let's talk motherfucker n f T sending to get you in the m T s and then let's let's wrap it up. You guys, we we already we already made the n f T right now. Yeah

you are? You are okay? So I need to talk him. That's good. I'm glad. I'm glad that's y'all doing n f T. You know how to sneak in America right now? Because no, I'm glad you're doing NT Drink Champs one of my n f T I did. Don't avoid this that I did with Mogul just the other day with a reboot camp. It just saw it for like one eight, which is ether that's when either about three or four. Yeah, ethereum,

etherium man ethereum. It's like I got a eight. But what I'm dying is have I also have a a metaverse clothing line that I selled for your metaverse characters in the clothes in the metaverse type. It's called Stone and Robert. You can, you know, go to my collection and open sea my parting over there black. Yeah. And I also have a new collection called Club Cards coming out on the n f T space. This is you gotta do listen. That's the Paddock Rose goal, right yeah,

all right, let's just make some noise for that. Yeah, man, man, I want to tell you, man, I'm blessed. I'm very proud of for you. Um, you're one of my closest friends for real, Like a lot of people say that. But we talked about ship, you know, I literally speak to you like once a week, and we talked about we talked about real ship, real ship. We don't talk

about no industry ship. Yeah, And I would constantly be on these streets, and I would constantly be fighting every battle when you ain't around, because that's school, he posted as a friend, and um, I'm just so proud how the trajectory shift and how they just everybody's like, you know what, like it was a beautiful thing. My nephew called me. My nephew said they were watching the verses

in l A and some just random Uber driver. It was like, I used to hate your rule and my neph is like what, he goes, I didn't know why. And that's just very simple. It's a very simple fact. It's like sometimes where people it just how your image was was at one point, people didn't understand it. People

didn't understand who you were. That's why this this versus very important for you, because if you would have slipped and you would have broke your ankle and you couldn't perform how you would have did, people would have just rolled you the fun all understood them. This is real ship, that's facts, this is real ship. You came, you didn't change, you didn't want to change, and everyone knew to your second alfabe o Comania's studia. Anybody know this job gonna

that's your second, alfabe, I'm forty five. By the way, what are you doing? Let me just say something. We love you, We love fat Joe, we love Joe was my brother. I swear to God this is not nothing like that. But this is not about not giving Joe's flowers, because he got his flowers all the time. But it's about giving you yours, and you deserve it. You really went out there, you went against all ours, you went against everybody, and you stood there through the test of time.

How you even called you and I said better? How your crew out there? He was like, no, coming out there, don't know real ship. So with that being said, our shows about giving people they flowers, shows about big in people. Oh you know though we've always picked you up. We always did this today and this day in time, you deserve a bad bigger I don't know what word I

just used. That's the right world, use the right word, bro, words and I love you and you deserve all this ship you want to make it, Let's make some more. Come on, weake a picture and I'll drop it to be good. Come on. Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs, hosten by yours truly d J E. F F and n r E. Please make sure to follow us on all our socials. Let's add Drink Champs

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