Episode 266 w/ John Monopoly and Al Harrington

a good vie? Ops it should be. It's your boy. What's going on as d J e F and this militating crazy wall drink chess? Yeah, yall banks up and right now. You know I usually do a big, illustrious, long intro, but what we're gonna do be a little late, so we on time, but we're gonna get to it right now. When I look at the left, I look at the NBA star person that was drafted first round,

you know what I mean? Um went on, he had an illustrious career and then came out and then switched it all up after the NBA and invested in cannabis, and from what I believe, it is the first black owned cannabis company in California. I'm not sure we'll get to the that. Then the next brother right here, he worked with vir later rackets by later Management. I saw him in the office stretched out. I knew him when he had air. He worked with Kanye West, pure Kanye.

He's got a lot to do with the air fact. Joe, Mr Elliott, anybody you want to you want to name, and the music business, John Monopoly has had a part of it. So case you don't know who we're talking about. So my al motherfucking heritage and John the monopoly. So John, I want to stop with you right because we read this article that comes out that says that you're the cheap strategy officer Village which is uh out, and are the partner they founded Village in Viola and together we

are the largest black owned cannabis companies. Make some noise for that. That's what it makes the largest. It's the largest. How is the first? It's not the first, it's the largest, Okay, So what made you all right? Cool? Because he was burning when he was in the league, rights to it, all right, So that cool? You're playing. You you you get injured. You know what I mean, they prescribed you these these medications, right do you did you ever comply

to that? Yeah? I mean obviously I had a bunch of injuries, So I had like twelve, I had twelve surgeries throughout my career. So I definitely had my fair share a c l back, both my shoulders, my hand. I had a bunch of stuff in my knees, both knees, so uh, you know, definitely had my fair share surgery.

Definitely had my fair share prescriptions. And you know what's crazy about that is like when they give you prescriptions, they give you like endless amounts of prescriptions, you know what I'm saying, And then they wonder why guys end up you know, yeah, yeah, to give you a lot Molly poker set like that everything. Okay, what I'm saying, whatever you want for the most yeah, exactly. So you know, and and a lot of players, you know, suffer from that, you know what I'm saying, They get to the point

where they struggle with addiction. And you know, obviously I've changed that perception, you know what I'm saying in regards to you know, professional athletes, and cannabis shoes. So he wasn't burning in the league. I was not. I just want to know. I was scared bro from Jersey, so like where I grew up, as you know, it's like, yeah, bro, range,

you know what I'm saying, waring drugs. You know, I was going in eighties, so you know I'm an eighties babies and I saw like kids get you know, locked up. You know, I've been stopped in frist because I was always bigging in my age. You know what I'm saying, that I looked or whatever. So I was always afraid

of wead, you know what I'm saying. But when I got to the NBA, you know, getting drafted out of high school, first training camp, you know, some of the vets called me because they wanted me to make a store run for him. And when I get it's really like that they make the rookie go to the store. You gotta do everything, bro, Like you ain't got some cigars. I got two young to get cigars. I had to

get like baby wipes, Baby's baby. Like, Bro, I walked in the room, Bro, cloud of smoke came out room and I walk in and then they're blowing it down. I'm just looking around and whatever. They like rookie batt and I say ship like I ain't gonna say nothing or whatever. So I run the store, do what I gotta do. And they really do call your rookie when you don't call you your name, but everybody here rookie, US three rookies on. So yeah, bro the next day

and practice dog he was dogging into practice killing. No we his crea team. I don't know if you know what that, beau, his creer team is. Yeah, it makes you better team. That's good coming from John. You had one of the greatest opportunities in the world at one point, like he was directly working with Chris Lady and the later like how did that come about? And how did how did that happen? Um? I was a party promoter

in Chicago and uh timbu two right, yeah, timbucto. He would he would j in my clubs back in the day, Dragon Room, Biology by all these clubs. Rest in peace, Tim and I became friends with somebody who used to come to my club who was friends with Chris, and she told Chris about this guy that was throwing parties like he did and managing Producers because I was managing and I at the time, but there was nobody. You couldn't you couldn't you could, you couldn't give us right

now cool. So me and Chris got cool. He would let me take meetings with him, and then he was like, YEO, if you ever decided to come to New York, you know, I'll give you a shot. And I was a little little timid, but you know, I just I looked up to him so much. And and Mono, you know, embraced me in top Moscow Woods and I got cool with James Cruise and the whole crew. And so that's how I became a Violet and I'm a Violetist for life,

you know what I mean to this day. But how different was that, like, you know, going for managing producers and then being a part of a company. Because this company is l L COO J. This is Miss Elliotts, the biggest, this was the biggest management company in hip hop. It was, uh, it was culture shock, you know what I mean, because I was, you know, a kid from

Chicago trying to figure it out. And then I went to New York and all the stars that I had been seeing on television and trying to be around I'm not in business with I was. It was to me being having experience in violated Violator, you would be a part of Bolt, but then you would be a part of certain people's projects. So whose projects was you in charge of? Right? So I was the head of producer management, so I handled Missy Elliott to me and Missy did

a project together for Monica. It was actually Monica's last hit album and it was like, was so gone on all these records? So I handed Missy Elliott. I had a seven A really is who was a huge producer for Murdering, which he'd be like, he's weird, he's weird, but he's done. So Havoc from mob D, who's incredible we work with have you know as recently as last year with yeah and um yeah absolutely his family of course. Um. So it was Havoc, Missy and Happen primarily and I'm

sure I'm forgetting somebody, but those are like the main three. Yeah, Because I was ahead of producer management, so I was just shopping everybody's beach, trying to keep them and working, you know, make sure our producers were constantly working. And now we got a space here, which one you want to open? I want a water. I can't drink Jesus the roads. All right, cool, I'm gonna let you open that, sir. Goddamn. Yeah, as approved was making wants the more, I ain't gonna

with water somewhere. You know, I got hold bag of it. I think you left it. I let a whole or maybe I don't know. So all right, let's moving on this. Yeah, you gotta hold it in my hallway. So you get out the NBA. And how do you get this opportunity to become involved with cannabis, especially if you're sticking to your story, you didn't, Um, you ain't smoking the lead? So what made you start to say, you know what can in the business is my way of life? What

happened for me? Um? You know when I was I went to I signed in Denver for the Denver Nuggets and uh, you know cannabis, was you gotta open that? I'm stay so yeah? So I so we went to Denver and you know out there that the cannabis programs was kind of just starting or whatever. And my grandmother seventy nine years or convince convinced of the um, come see me play and Normally she would say no, because you know she can't dry that she's not trying to go.

But for some reasons she said yes. Put on the plane. She got there, took her bags down, said she had me bring a back back up. And as I'm bringing up, I can hear it shaking. It sound like a pill back. So I get it upstairs, put on the counter. She come upstairs. She opened it up and she takes like thirty pills. So I just look at it them, like, Grandma, are you taking so much medicine? What's going on? And she was like, I got high blood pressure, diabetes, glaucoma.

And I was like, glaucoma, got coma. I was like Grandma. I was just like Grandma was just reading newspaper two days ago, how cannabis. I was calling the cannabis, How cannabis helps glad coma, and it does this that in the third and she said, are even more professional when we call the cannabis. I just feel like it's a lot easier for weed. And and it was cannabis in the article used to sound like crack. That's no, but that's what she called it. She was likely She asked me, like,

what is cannabis, and I was like, marijuana weed. She's like read like a smoking and I was like, no, Grandma, looks like I said, it's medicinal as doctors prescribed this, blah blah blah. She like no. Next day I come home, she's sitting in the kitchen and I'll come back from shooting around. She's sitting at the table like this. So I walked into my grandma, what's up? So she like squinted, She's like, is that you baby? Dogs? Like, yeah, how are you doing? She smoked it? No, it's not yet.

She's just looking at she like she's like, my eyes hurt so bad today I can barely see. So I said, well, Grandmama, she just tried, you know, try to cannabis. And I was like the sea group won'ta tell nobody. I'm made so much paining day I try and I called my boy he bringing back vietnamuse and then the volcano back from her had a smoking right to stand. I didn't know, like, I'm not a smoke I didn't know. I just sounds because she goes and she's smoking and she's smoking and

blowing it out her nose. And she didn't even blow I'm looking at him, like, Grandma, you showing you on smoke with blowing it out. So I taken outstairs. I go taking that hour in the athlete. I go check on her, and when I knocked on the door, I don't hear nothing. So I knock again. I opened the door and back to the door and she's looking down and I'm like, Grandma, how are you feeling? I gotta smirk on my face. And she turned around. She's crying

to She's like, I'm helled. She's like, you're not having been able to read the words of my bike went over three years, she's downstairs reading a bikey weather. She got that much of candidate. So that's how I started, man, That's how we got into the game. And that's how I started to learn more about cannabis, and I learned how, you know, help kids with epilepsy and siegures, people that have like HIV and cancer termally ill like just a better quality and like because me, like me, I just

want to get hot. Just being honest with you, right, but just being honest right. But there is like the medical benefits and all this that people like you. I love hearing stories where people like you when you actually have these better who benefits of it? Like, you know what I'm saying, Like me, I like, I'm just being honest. I just want to get like I just don't want to be sober, right, But there is this medical benefits and have you been able to explore those? Yeah? Definitely.

I mean you know, when we first started, one of our extractors or whatever, he had a patient that had like a hundred and twenty tumors on his lungs or whatever, and he saw to him making him miss Rick Simpson oil, which is pretty much all the cannabinoids and playing. Now I'm talking like a nerd ain't at the end of the day, he gave it to this dude. They gave him six months to live or whatever. He started eating them or whatever. Due ended up living like six years

and all the tumors went off his lungs. You know what I'm saying. So, these are like things that I'm seeing when I very first get into the game, you know what I'm saying. So and you go from that to like, you know, one of my aunties have breast cancer. You know what I'm saying. I made her capsule is the same thing she took them throughout her whole chemo.

She gained eight pounds through chemo. You know, you know obviously you know I'm saying stuff like that, So you know, I just have all kinds of stories of like how magnificent this plan is. And it's just cool because we just beginning the journey to like run attack into figuring out all the things cannabis really can help. Now, how is it to get it into dispensaries because obviously they say that, Um, it's harder for for black people because

we started later. It has been hard for you because well, yeah, I mean it's been difficult right in just serve areas. So every state is different, right, so you know some places is a lot easier to get you know, now dem is actually very very uh highly regulated. Yeah, it's oversaturated too, but like it's the it's probably the tough. But I glom minds in Denver, right, So that's what

is that easier easier for me? Yeah? Well, I mean you just gotta if you have a license, you have a license in that state, you can operate, you know what I'm saying. So you'll work with somebody either for distribution to different things like that. So it just depends on the state's model. Every state is different, which is

very difficult. And that's why when you really look at what we've been able to accomplish as being the biggest multi state you know, Black operating company is really really have to take your hats off to us because you know, currently we raised about thirty million dollars combining both companies, and our competitors have raised three, four or five hundred million and some of them not even around anymore, you know what I'm saying. So you know, it's it's extremely difficult.

It's very uh, it's very expensive, you know what I'm saying, to operate because if you want to have quality, which which we smoke, you know what I'm saying, you have to grow it yourself. You know what I'm saying. You can't really rely on a partnership in another state to you know, pretty much grow you know, candidacy where you want to consistency across the states if you're gonna have

a product to maintained. But not only that, um, yeah, you're come back too, but not only at Like I see you like in the Soul House and see you in l A and you will always like you know, pass off. And the good thing about it is you've never gave me something that was whack. And not only that it wasn't it was always greatly packaged. It's like, y'all take your time on packaging it. And and I think that a lot of times people just think that

we're supposed to support black because it's black. We want to support quality, we want to support the best ship, and if it happens to be black, that's sucking awesome, you know what I'm saying. So that's one of the things that I loved about it. Like every time I was, you know, getting something that, always look at the quality. Always look how it's packaged, and look how it's roll,

Look how it smells, look how and everything. So what made y'all like spend so much time in my opinion, Well, I always say, like, you know, for me, especially because I got into the Candidis game so late, and like having people like you, like when we did Biggs. When I think I'm at the first messig the second time me and you at the big birthday party, you know, the first thing you said to me when I gave you the wink, he was like, bro, straight up. He

was like when somebody gave me a week before. I was like, it's a basketball player, just like gottest ship to the side. I finally got to smoke that. She was like this motherfucker's were smoking. You know what I'm saying.

But you know, to your point, it's like, you know, my whole thing is like playing the NBA sixteen years or One thing I learned with what they did with us was that they branded the hell out of us, right, So like when the season started, to give us ten sweat suits, they give us fifty pairs socks, hats, everything because it's the logo. It's like, you know what I'm saying.

So I realized that if you're gonna build a brand, that you got to be forward facing and at the end of the day, you gotta have products that people are gonna want to put up, you know what I'm saying. So for us, like when we look at like packaging the product everything, we wanted to be the best of the best because to your point, right, we don't want you to support it just because we're black on when the super boats, because I should just fired, you know

what I'm saying. The plus, you know what I'm just saying, give it like Our biggest thing is we want to give our community something that they can call their room. You know what I'm saying, almost like the food model like when they was coming up. And one thing I can tell y'all, your packaging don't look like no other packages. Like me, I smoke everything every weed out there, right, And I want to even try to ship, like I want to try to ship like that's Bob. I'm like,

I don't care. Let me you know what I mean, Like I go buy it. And one thing for sure is everyone is kind of leaning towards like the sereal look the character and it's it's it's actually it's actually fucking up for the kids because it's cartoon. Is what made y'all. What made y'all say I'm gonna separate from that and like, you know, like it doesn't look like a cartoon. Well it's funny, right, It's because at the end of the day, the culture wants that, you know

what I'm saying. And I'm always a firm believe you kind of give the people what they want. But for us, we looked at it like we're gonna make that extra investment to kind of teach people who it's gonna look like in the future, you know what I'm saying. So that's how we looked at that. Like with bags, you know, there's something to be said with bags made potentially keep

the flower fresher and every things like that. We just felt like with the jars or whatever, like I wanted to be a surprise element, like you don't know what it is until you actually opening, you know what I'm saying. Bad motherfucker would do some lemon cherry gelato crazy in some violo galler I don't want to, don't. You don't got no insurance that is come up closes. You said you're smoking closes. That's well, I'm smoking a whole bunch of the ship too. You know, John Boom, you are

not only Kanye West is like I want. Would you say somewhat of a mentor mentor No? No, brother, brother, Okay, that's I'm a couple couple of years older than him. So how how much did your phone ring after he left TMZ that day? It rain a little bit, I mean, but you know, we all go through what we go through. Something None of us are perfect. You know, maybe he made a mistakes here and there, but that's my brother you know, is what it is. How did you feel

when he supported Trump? Um, it wasn't. It wasn't my personal take on how I do my politics. But I support him. That's my brother. I don't. I don't no matter what he does, you know, no matter how he decides to make put on his pants or wear a hat whatever, I shouldn't make me no mind. I love at How difficult is that? I don't know. I'm saying you agree with it or didn't disagree with it, But how difficult is that to have someone you call your brother and have him make a decision that the black

community is just frowned upon? Is that difficult situation or is something that you used to because he's just in the public eye. I think, Um, I don't know if it was difficult, Just is what it is. I never really looked at it like I was under no extra pressure because my man was taking a particular stance. I think we're all free in this country to take whatever stands we want at any given time. And that's just what I say about that. What easy today for you? Man?

I've seen a boast the gap the other day like this is this is you know, I'm gonna be honest. You know that jacket fire too. I just feel Gap is trash. I'm throwing it out there. If he can make Gap good, he's a bad motherfucker. Because listen, I'm gonna be honest, but he is a bad motherfucker. Yeah that too. Just watch, just watch if he gets me the wear guy. It's come on, but the jacket is all it's not my style. Okay, it's not my style.

It's like the whole collection, the chance I'm gonna get a collection, the chance I'm gonna get a collection, the chance I wear Jess, I wear y Es. Yeah. But um but ga, that just like a weird like. That's like saying it's a personal thing. That's like saying, um, Elise, you remember Elise. That's like saying I'm bringing Elise back. You remember lottos? I lovember a lotto when you could you? Yeah,

I do what I was talking about, y'all. Old Motherfucker's when I said, you know when you remember it up, you think us motherfucker could bring a lot on back, You gotta be a bad motherfucker. But let me ask if anybody could do it at the crop ships that he got us wearing, right, now we out a line in the world crazy, World Crazy. I don't wear them too.

I don't get you want to tell you man, you want to come to so but is that the like the most difficult artists or the most unpredictable rather than not, let's not say difficult. What's the most unpredictable artists you've ever worked with? Probably Kanye Yeah, I managed Busted for a while. Gotta be yeah. I working with Bustle was always fun because I knew what it was coming. But

you know, yeah, we might be here one day. I remember we was in Atlanta last year for three and a half months ago, were doing all this since and the next day we was gone. That's how he moved. That was part of the genius. And he's a superhero, so you can't funk with him. What's his white place in America? I mean, like, listen, man, that's just what Landa exactly he got. It's not my Knda bro, it's what Landa like because he got his own little white Harry.

Y'all don't know what I'm talking about. Come on there, who know why it's only white? My brother never been there exactly. I mean, I ain't American sail listen to me, you know. But um, I see NAS go out there. Um this was actually the first time they invited me as press and um I didn't go, but this was the time to this coming. I think they've listen to NAS album on this album and the fact that I've seen people going crazy to go to Wyoming who've never

been to Wyoming. I'm like, once you get there, once you leave, the rents just open. You can't go to seven of em nothing. They don't got a ya, none of that. So but how the hell because now I see Dave Chappelle. Now Dave Chappelle is doing the same thing. Well, I think, Hio, what does it want with these rich people? What do they do? They just they just go out there and just find out that nobody like you don't like? Now that's something. What doesn't mean? That's very too, that's

very to piece of question. But why on me? That's like heavy Trump ship, that's Trump. No, it's not Trump, it's just heavy. Yeah, it's a lot of beautiful out there. Man, it really is. Come on, West, is it really is? It would be nice to you. I don't want you to listen, to be honest with you, if you're hanging with the right people, the right Republicans, you probably be good. But you know, for like, you know what I'm saying, like Democrats going out there, I'm just saying or liberal

or you know in between. It's just a little crazy, man, It's a little crazy. So what I mean, I'm just being honest, like I'm not going to wire on me. I'm just being honest, like, it's not everybody. It's not everybody, but it is peace and quiet, it is piece and quite as beautiful. Yeah, you know that's you can get your zin chick. So do you smoke? I seen you looking at the smoke Champs. I smoked like a manniac. Okay, I seen you in Soho house. I'm no mallible, mallible.

He was having dinner and and noble, God, damnit, shout out the noble and maniable. That's the best. That's the best. That's the best. And um the vibe, that's the vibe. I'm a restaurant guy. What's your favorite restaurant? Houston's hill Stones. Let me tell you some crazy shit. I love Hillstons. I hate Hillstones. It's the same. It's the same thing. It's me stones, but I love us. That's my favorite. That's your favorite favorite. If we had your last milling

on earth, you would do it proticipe chicken. No, it depends on it depends. I might get the Hawaiian ribby all the ribs. Okay, okay, what's your favorite restaurant? Okay, all right, that's the original Noble on the Hills. Uh, right down the block from the sls. Okay, I hate that spot. We did not know how to little. We did not know how to eat roll fish at the time he brung this us hood ass. We're sitting there. He ordered, what do you want it? He ordered the

rest snap, But that's ship was like that. We don't want to act like so we even even Steve Rippin, but we don't want to act like we unsimilarized. So we all we all like that. Oh my god. We as soon as we finish, we go straight to fat Bird like yo, no, no, the same thing we that. No, you gotta go get something to the mcdowald's Gonna Street. Mcdowald's Street, for somebody is the best McDonalds in the world. I don't know why they gotta have the organic food

came our favorite food. Fish I'm gonna be in once a weekend. I go to the organic food Kings. You know what I'm saying. Well, I go veg it wants a meal like everyone. Yeah, like you know what instead of like breths, thenner you go blunches out of here, going foolcage. You're organic. I'm a ship all day. God damn vegan food vigging vegan? Oh man, ship? Did you name your rest your favor restaurant? Okay, how about you? Bro mean? I like Brimstone the steak House and pember

Punstone firing Brimstone. That a little sick? All right? Now? All right? What was yours? Yours? Noble? I'm a whole yeah kind of yeah. I'm finger popping everything. I'm finger popping every restaurant. I love it. I love it. I'm sorry, man, I'm just I just put Yeah, I'm a Dantanna Craigs, car Bone Noble crustaceans. You'll listen. It's been time I thought I went to l A just for crustaceans. I'm

just being honest. They got cocaine and their noodles never ever had theirs, all the noodles, all my said dress up. Every time you put on hard bottoms in the in the college shirt did get in. I'm not even gonna tell it. You crustaces. Me and Fat Joe get bit one night. We just we fucked up. We're walking crust states. We got on nothing but sweatsuits. They shut us down, Yo, brothers, you can't come in here. The whole restaurant is looking

like that's fucking Maria facto. Me and Fat Joe's too intosticated to say something intelligent back to the major D. So we're just like, I fucking fuck you were never coming back here? Oh fuss fuck you. The next day I go there, I get a dress up shirts, I get address this. I don't tell Fat Joe we need to commitment not to go in. We said for this place. I walk in and he looked like ire he coming back. It was great. It's a great time. But yeah, l A l A Cuisine, So y'are both live in l

A Right, it was shut down. Yeah, y'all was shut down, shut down, shut down from shut down. How so how was that? Like y'all was quarantine. Y'all was quarantine, and when quarantine was over, that's it was crazy like like out there it had me feeling like if I left the crib, I was gonna get Corona Bro. They had this thing and that ship was like everywhere it was it was. It was Miami, Miami been open, it was, Yeah, it been. It's been disrespectful, Rose Trees all comp was

crazy to be glad you drink with me? You know, So John Music industry, all this luxurious things going on, You're going to switch to cannabis. Um. I don't know if it's switching. I'm diversifying. I like that word. You know, we do first of far off sorry missing you know. I mean I still work full time with you and still involved in a couple of different things. But I'm definitely, uh, heavily involved in this. I'm proud to be working with

these brothers and about to take over the world. How about um, is there any other clients that you work with that is involved with cannabis? Any other clients? Um? No, this is the only My only cannabis venture is Village Viola cool? And are you trying to get it into Chicago? Chicago? Yeah? Absolutely, and we're working on getting a license in the state of Illinois. Make some noise for that. Is there any full side they're going federal from your perspective, I'm not

an expert in that. I'm honestly new to the space, so I'd rather not answer. Um, what do you think on that? Yeah, I think that within the next I mean obviously within the next ten years, that's like a big number, but maybe like next administration, like web becomes in next I think we'll probably push it to imagine preparing for that, because that's but if they do that,

are they doing that state from state? Are they gonna do with the whole United It would be federal would be federal alcohol, like what happened with it, so they don't have to do with state like let's can can Minnesota say I'm a federal legalized that can that happen?

Or whole federal would be the whole United States. I'm sure each state can tweak certain details of the laws, just like you know, the same thing with alcohol, but that would be the game change, like having potency like in Utah you can't like the liquids different you know, percentages in Utah the rest of the country, So changes like that, Like Um and Denver you could buy psychedelics, yeah, tabs,

acid and what's the other ship? Yeah, you can buy that ship the aid though I don't know by yeah, but there's a natural version of acid, like a natural person like kind of only. The only place in that country where you could do everything legally is in Oregon, real Oregon. Everything. Nobody don't want to go to Oregon, right, nobody except for the Nike outlet. That's it. Right, It's like it's gonna go to the Knight Doud and that's it. Let's get the funk about it there. Let's see the Oregon.

But that's where everybody, y'all, you could do anything you want to or anything you want. Things about hooks too, that's New York, New York by hookers. No, no, no, they said they know the sex crime is not a crime no more. They say, go fuck but you know if it's basically because it's a girl now, because it's a girl like Vegas in New York, I think so they got the rent like district, like we gotta take it. Yeah, just sit around even this kind of love me a smile.

He's like it's gonna be like men and oh my god, all right, man, is it quick time of slive? Yet? No? Really? Alright? Cool? So he's not drinking. So this is this is on you, all right, So this is this is what happens, This is what this is what happened as a partnership. Right, so um quick, time of slime is very quick. You just name one or the other if you do want to name both, which we've set it up for you to name both because we feel like you're friends with both.

So you just say both, and then you take a shot for it's no, it's nothing big, whatever shot you want you like, this is this is the summer. Oh yeah, we got to kill the guy black owners the killer too. Yeah, we gotta killer dam Every time I say booth, well taut with you. We're gonna take a shot with you, like first first old Thomas, first question. I think you're gonna take a shot. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Let's let's figure this out. Okay, are we ready? Quick

time a slid? All right, but get a shot though, let's get ready. Let's get ready with the shot. Alright, cool, yeah, the first one and three I think you taking a shot in my opinion, I'm not sure. All right, let me do. I'm taking one with you though, Like I said, all right, here we go. Every time you take one. There's a couple. There's a couple one here. All right, are you ready? Even questions? Bro? Get ready? All right? Cool nas or jay z damn jay z. Okay, all right,

that was the mom. Okay, respect or loyalty. Okay, let's get let's get let's set them. We're not leaving you out there at alone. This is we with the guests. We're not leaving you out there alone. Baby ship sports edition drinking sport. Oh yeah, y'all gotta take shots to come on, come on, get your shots together, relaxed. I'm not talking about let's like we're gonna give him a shot to take a bone later though, just just for him to feel a part of the s V. That's

the best way to describe it. All right, come on, let's go. I'll need a little ice, don't worry about it. But boom, yeah, he might as well keep him loaded up because this text. Next one is gonna be it too slut Yeah, STU, all right, pretty, let's go DX or tupap another one. Let's go take that shot. Come on, when he got a little shot. But I'm all right,

I'm gonna let you take this shot. But then this next one, I don't know since we got we never know, we never know, all right, in the camera solo solotlettle a little m hm. Alright. This next one, I don't know Miami or Toronto. Oh my god, are you right? My lord? Miami? Like this one, I don't know nineties or two thousand hip hop? I go uh two Thousand's okay? This one is up in the air for real or Kanye both? All right? We need them both for the culture,

all right, I don't I don't want to. I'm gonna okay, I'm bugging out. I'm bugging out. I'm bugging now. I'm bugging now. All right, we move both of them. Bro Okay, Okay, let's skip this one, but I'll come back to this one. Make sure I'll come back to it. Has Um sour or O G O G good one. Alright, This one is up in the air, Cardi bat or Nicki Minaj. Get your shot ready, No, I could pick I could

pick a back. I'm gonna go with Nicki Minaj. Okay, Queen's in the building, all right, No, you can answer this, Pap Daddy or Chris Lady. You couldn't have me answer that one. So I'm gonna say pump okay, alright, okay, podcast or radio radio Okay, all right, this is for you now, depending on how you answer, hes gonna take the shot Kanye West or common sense. You can say both. Now I'm gonna Kanye. Yeah, okay, that's real. That's my dog. Okay,

this is for you too, major or independent? Now independent? That was smooth, Okay, No I d or Kanye. Let him take a shot. Shot man, my brother. Yeah. You don't want to have to go back to Chicago. You don't look on any given Sunday Kanye got him fading, Okay, sorry, and no ideas obi wan, but all right, it is what it is. This is gonna suck you up. You're ready. J Cole or kind both get your shout. What you

thought about J coole new album Love? We didn't about him playing the African League, Well, I thought it was dope earlier white. He's really I don't know. It seems like it ain't work out right. They lost, like an

elimination thing or whatever. Right. He said that he had personal reasons he had to go back to the States, but I think he just got a lot of slack because people were mad that he got the position, and there were other players that were up for it, but just because he got the name whatever, Yeah, le he did, he did. He played all right too. I've seen the couple of games. All right, hold on, damn, what is okay? Here? We are all right, both of y'all. Foxy Brown, a

little camp ship. I'm gonna say Foxy mm, I say both Bro, they let's go back there. We're not around watching this man. Yeah, that's how I feel. That's how I feel. This motherfucker. Hold on, hold on, tell you if we want to know, bro, is the first time I take? It's getting funky right now, Biggie or big Punt? So, I mean, it doesn't matter somebody taking a shot, big Biggie. Okay,

what's up? What's up all y'all? So for me, like when I was when I was my senior in high schools and pun was like on this little run and I could see him. I can sneak into this one club in Manhattan. It seemed like every time I went, he was always in there. The Mage spot right off because I even went there after my high school street.

It's right off of is the West Side Highway. Yes, it's that's the carpet of the Yeah, that's the one place I could sneak into it is the seventeen eighteen year olds, And it seemed like Poe was always in there, so obviously I would be like Biggie, right, just because I know, like you got a relationship. Take a shot, shot man, I don't worry about it, man, this is what we do. M over there, turn around. We were oh man, okay, we only got two more. Alright, Hey,

nobody gave you the authority to have anything. You got to relax. I know I was coming back to that one, all right, Um Lebron or Jordan's Jordan? Yeah, Jordan? Want to serious? All right? This is Bron his number two hands down like hands down, ain't on discussion, but he got knocked out of the first round. And I'm just asking. I'm just asking. It's just like I think. I mean, he's just saying he wanted he got a movie coming out space jam Yeah, to promote that I made more

money off that championship. I love your political asset. I love that. I love times the Bron. What's most important. I'm gonna seeve you Burner Bron before because you see drinking on lean Branny game. I think that was a right yeah, all right, and this is the last one. We got one more after this, after this one. This, This should be pretty easy for you. Bowls are the Knicks. Knicks. I'm not asking you, okay, because I know you're just gonna go both. Okay, I'm changing it up a little bit.

I don't know what you're gonna say. I think I should know what you're gonna say. Drink Champs or All the Smoke podcast. That's crazy question that shot to the shot, bro, Come on, don't hurt my feelings. Yeah yeah, who who match did our show? He did our show and last they're supposed to come to ast you man um man, um he did our show, but I think he did. He did our show. He was like, you know what, I could do this ship too, and they grow and

this show was great. Great. I love how because to me, that's the drink Champs of sports, Like like, um how they do it because they know y'all, Like you know what I'm saying. It's the same way we know that the artist and you know what I mean. Um, so I picked him up but um yeah, that was I switched it. I ain't gonna give it that. You know what I mean? You mean yeah, I sound like DMX. Oh I gotta check my phone. Okay, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah,

I ain't got I ain't got. I ain't got hash oh oh oh this is the read this out out broke, Come on les Le, prostitution is legal. Yeah, out to the weirdo man man hands the whole city. Just man, oh ship, that's fun. Up the Stroke coming back the Brons where Huts Point is? Yeah, East New York. Let's not forget East New York. Damn the week Brother James, Holy movie got the moody god, damnit. Someone said, why does Boopy episode y'all had? I ain't never had none

of that. They never had. I know, I get it. You ain't burning the NBA neither, I get it. Of the good guys. He was one of the Jersey bro Square Square, I know where you're from, brou Jery man. He want to rep it with you, man, so he told him, thank you. Yeah, man. I asked me though, coming from St. Patrick's, you know, Carrie Irvan came from St. Patrick Michael kick Good, Chris came. What was that recipe? Like they developed NBA players like now, so I coached.

His name Kevin Boyle, so he down in Mount Verde Academy. Now he just he a master bro, Like he just know how he knows how to get the best out

of us, you know what I'm saying. So like he was the first who ever played for that like cuss me out or like, but it's just somehow he motivated you to just always want to be better, you know what I'm saying, that you're thinking about like all the other niggas he got in the league now, like Joel and b and the kid kid coming him coming in the league, Like he got monsters, you know what I'm saying.

So he just can't identify talent. Because even when he picked me, bro, Like when he grabbed me from my high school went to Rozelle High School. I moved from Orange to Roselle and my freshman year I didn't even play. And then he seen me playing in the tournament in summer and pretty much convinced me to come to an all basketball school. And I ended up going from an unranked sophomore to the number one playing the country under like him and my a. But like how you felt

becoming that from nobody to us, I don't know. I don't know better. Bro, You're seventeen years old, dog, and the ship happened so fast and obviously like back then it wasn't like social media and ship like that. So when you was grinding, he was really grinding. You know what I'm saying, Really here getting reps off like it was stories like MS told about you. You know what I'm saying. At that time, you know you know what I'm saying. But like once I got to that level,

getting to the league, you know what I'm saying. I walked in the first time in practice, like I said, even though niggas was bowling, like I felt like I was just as good as them. Player ever played against Grant Hill, hands down Grant. Like if Grant Hill did not if he did not get hurt, if he didn't get hurt, he would have had like Lebron kind of like numbers, Bro, Like you played against the bron I played against Brian Bronze. Obviously he's Bron's number two, you

know what I'm saying, Like he's the second. About Kovid, Kobe is probably three. You got Kovid have to Lebron. You want to make one thing, it's over stuff a long. I mean, like I live in that late so everybody want me to say Kobe, but like Bron, I like you keeping it with what what Brian does and brings to the game. He's a hard player. I haven't done that and he's done it for eighteen years at twenty five tenants and like, come on, dudes, don't do that.

You know what I'm saying. So he's definitely different. Never played against Jordan. I played against Jordan too, because Jordan, that's still Jordan. If you still on him, that's posts still working. So my story one time we're playing them in d C and somehow I get into it with him, Jordan shure. So you always like growing like growing up. The whole minute of that. The stories is like you

never say nothing back to Michael Jordan. You see something, Michael Jordan, He's gonna be like he's the person from the Wizard of Ours that you don't see but you hear exactly. Just don't say nothing to him. I feel me, but I said something, How does this happen? What's going on? We're just in the game. Is something happened? I ain't failing me, like you found me something something because he called everybody a home. That was his thing. Ever, hold on,

hold on, just calm that. Okay, let's calm that. I got me. So wait a minute. So he goes for a shot. He thinks you found him, and he says, he found me up. I found him. I did found him, And I'm like, at the ref, I don't even touched him. You found me home. I'm like, man, who are you calling the hole? You know young from Joe? You don't know no better like I called you like I called you a home And I'm like, all right, So we go at it. So but he had forty one. I

finished the game with thirty seven. But they won it. So they win the game. Whatever. I'm in the back mad, whatever we lose or whatever. And the ball boy comes walking in with his sneakers with Jordan and it's like it's like best wishes, keep working hard. I't even asked him for his shoes. Dude, shoes, did your kids shoes? Yeah? I don't even asked him shoes. Brot he said. But

that's some ship that you could tell. Jordan gets the game like he gets like he gets like going at him, like I even think like even the Alan iverson moment where Alan like crushed them over. I felt like Jordan got hyped course to that, like like I cool, Like even when he talked about Kobe, he said that Kobe like whatever, he said that Kobe's friend of rule. He said that dat it was competitive to the very last minute.

Is that's really like how the NBA is, Like, no, it is, did not know he was calling his host that's crazy you get from the East Coast. But it's like then Kevin gard Kevin Gardeck and PJ. Tucker they look that Look, that's the first time I felt like NBA got real again. Katie did. But but they but they but they went to college, They went to Coe when somewhere showing that stage at this bit right, sob like Katie came, you know what I'm saying. Something happened.

You know what I'm saying. So let me because I'm bouncing around, right, I'm bouncing around everything. What do you feel about these super teams because right now it just feels like everyone is just like basically getting down with the gang. That's popping whoever let whoever got the best, Like well, I don't like, I mean, we don't like it. But it's just that's what the game is now. So you got to evolved with the times who fussed up the game for the super teams. I think Brian going

to Miami is what started it, you know what I'm seeing? Yeah, that that that's what started Paul ray Allen and that that was a little different though, Yeah that wasn't one right, Yeah, but it was still different like Brian going there and then like orchestrating that that wasn't orchestra that was Those was trades, you know what I'm saying. Like they were free agents with their free and they exploded. Of course, I who don't want to live in Miami and win championships?

Mean why not? It's like living in l A winning championships. You know what I'm saying. There's certain places where it's like, but we need to bring one back to New York though, bro, Like we don't look good to win the chip. I want to win. I want to win games. Bro. Like, if you think about coaching, you think about coming to coaching. Everybody cannabis. We're playing the team. We ain't working for nobody else, but we're working for no body. That's beautiful.

What made you? That's what I'm saying, what made you didn't want to get down with all these other candidates companies already operated? What made you want to be black owned? I guess uh. You know when I first started like it was no option, I ain't had no way to go. Like now, remember now it's popular, bro, this We just we celebrating our teena anniversary of this ship. Take a shot for that. Take a shot for that ten year

anniversary ship. And by the way, I'm drinking watermelons. Wellness, wellness, yes, salute man, the ten years of Viola and Harrison willness got damnit. So look what are you toasting with beer for? Come on by the mamajuana so is And this is the question for both of y'all. Is it really green gold? That's because that's how they're describing it right now. It's it's the green gold rush of everybody is you know, I got friends and I got people that know that

invested in tobacco. When Chris was alive, I wanted to do a cigarette. I don't know what Chris like he did. I said, you had to change. I had to change, and I wanted I said Chris like, I don't know what he did, but he came back and said to me, we're not working with tobacco at all. And I don't

know what he was. I've never seen like white, like white under his face, Like he was like like whatever he did, he tried to explore, like trying to get Newport to be like diligence and what and it was like that was the mafia, right, No, just in general, it was just bad. Yeah, Like if you notice, the only people that's doing tobacco that's like us is you have to do it in the Dominican Republic because I have to grab Mike, grab relief, grab a leef Dominican Republican.

So what makes y'all say all right? Cool? Like, for instance, um, what was I saying before that? I was the green rush, that's what they call the green gold is? Is this what you guys feel that? This is what this is? Now? This is definitely the industry to be in, you know what I'm saying? Um, until like we fix like the tax laws around cannabis. It's hard for us to really make money in cannabis. Explain that because we can't write

anything off. So there's a tax officer or two a d or whatever which you can write off like ordinary expenses. So like normally, like if you work for me or whatever, this is my employee, I can usually write you off through the business. In cannabis, you can't. So at the end of the day, it takes away from all of our margin, you know what I'm saying. Essentially to run these businesses now cultivation, which means like actually growing the plant.

That is probably the most profitable part of the business, the most difficult. It is the most difficult hands indoor operation though, right and no matter where is that it

can fail, can go bad. Bro you can get bugs, you can kind of you get mold, all these different things that can affect the plant in which will make you, you know, especially in legal environments, its test thing, so they test for all this stuff they're regulated to so you if you you know, have if you cross certain thresholds or whatever, you literally have to throw your entire

crop out. And it depends on the side, you know, Like for us, like our biggest facility in Michigan, we produced three hundred pounds of money I'm saying, but that's equivalent to like seven hundred to a million, seven hundred thousands to a million dollars in revenue per month. You understand what I'm saying. And if you have one of those issues, bugs won't any of that. We literally got to throw it away. Yeah yeah, so and you don't

know the quality of that. But until it's blooming, until it's done, until you actually get it tested, you know that's the results. Yeah, wow, damn yeah, man, it's it's it's extremely difficult, bro. And that's what I try to tell people, like, don't think that like this ship is easy. It's not easy at all, you know what I'm saying, because you know, in our teen year journey, we've had a lot of ups and downs. So how many other

black owned cannabis companies do you see out there? Black Latino, same thing you see other people that's minorities, that's there's other companies out there. You know. You got like gas House, you got House gas House, you got Ball Family Farms, you got Family Farm, Ball Family Farms. Yeah, you got like like like like blacks another dude, um, you know you got him, you got bluntsed more what I'm saying. So there's a couple of companies out here at a

black own that's out here doing anything or whatever. Is there ever any fear that like big Tobacco will just try to take over the industry. It's big fear that, you know what I'm saying, And that's that's how they're gonna set it up. I mean, if you look at like Amazon just recently announced it they're no longer testing their employees for cannabis, giving you signs that obviously Amazon want to be the biggest distribute of the week, you

know what I'm saying. So like these are the things that I'm looking at as I'll sit back and look at the industry and what's going on, you know what I'm saying. But yes, tobacco companies are gonna come in, they're gonna try to buy I think the brands that are making the most noise, you know what I'm saying, So like the violas and the cookies and different things like that that out there really moving a lot of products.

Hold on, hold on, hold on yeah, damns but left Rock yeah, we all we all drink chas Lave, yeah right now through businesses, I think. So, I mean, just like this distribution is becoming a big thing, you can you know what I'm saying. So I could see them trying hit me up hit me up. I see you have black family, Flower come on family. So what I'm doing is, uh, We're gonna create like our own like

maybe Collis you might to call it. But eventually, like I vision black Flower family being like wait wait, wait, wait a minimum, wait a minute, you just say black let I need to be down. I need to be damn with black Flower Family. I don't need that ship gonna be. It's gonna be all the black owned cannabis brands, Monogram Cannabis, every Monogram, whoever. It is like us being together. You know what I'm saying, because I think that yeah, black Wall Street, but you know I got this black

Flower family like bff. You know what I'm saying. So that's my vision of that is like all black you know, own brands kind of working together. And I think that at some point, if we, you know, continue to build together, we can start dictating a lot of the way to

the market. You know what I'm saying. Could we push everything, bro, like this man Virgil and all like think about it, bro, everything, music, fucking fashion, everything, But it started with us, Bro, Like they use us and we take ship and make it those viral. You know what I'm saying that's how I feel about cannabis is the same thing. Like I feel like a lot of you know, these companies that have come in that uh, you know, obviously well funded, but

don't really represent the culture. They fail, they're just not having the success that they should have, and it becomes a branding player. Really at the end of the day. It's kind of like if you think about like the Mexican cartels, like they're not the ones making the coke, making the drugs, but they became more valuable than Colombia and the guys in Peru because they were the ones that were, you know, ahead of it, in front of it in the market. That's what it becomes like branding places.

You're in the market, you're cool in the market, You're you're you're relevant to the market. Now, that's what it is, and that's what we're trying to do. Kanye West could do a versus what oh and that's just the music. That's just like that's like words versus you see what he just said. He said, Oh yeah, it's Jack he said, Oh, I like did that. I don't think either one of

them coming out of the house, probably not. They break the internet, they could do it from the house and I'm still break in and that should have breaked in and nah, you already Jersey Jersey Hell. I always asked what verses? I always say, like, who Chris Brown going against? That's what we're just talking about. What Tim So, what you think I think Chris Brown gets Usher? Everybody everybody sound bugging that. What would you say? I think Chris

Brown gets that? Thinks we've said that. I think that Timberland is picking Usher. That's what they know. Chris Chris Brown. He picked Chris. Yeah, that was Chris. Yeah. Yeah. I can't say destroyed, no, not destroyed, no disrespect to us. I think he'll suck him up too, you know he Michael Jackson of our error. Chris Brown is if he didn't, I don't think about you would be the biggest start in the world. About that in the world. But they both had I think we got twenty How about all money?

You said Kanye against jay I? That's crazy, man? What who else? Or Dre? Kanye and Dress That's what beats. It's two different producing artist Kanye, it's about no, no, Kane. Kanye gets too. He's an artist and he's a producing rap. What are you talking about they're gonna put out those things. It's about the twin against that. Listen against that and I saw it, bross check. That was a bad match. That's a bad match. I don't know what you don't

I'm not gonna sign at black Man. There was the match. Yeah, I don't know. I think you ain't drank would work too, because they don't. I think Missing Missing the first Yeah, yeah, I tell you that. I don't like that, and I think you're right. I don't know what then you're talking about going on? Right, don't don't don't listen if you don't animated right, this is an animated like you know, like how bust this animated? They do? What the person

that could mess with him is mystical they're doing. And I think Missical would go with who with the Boston Yeah, okay unless that ain't got enough ships. I like Missing, I like miss like Missing and busted Volt, but I think missing, but missing bust that about l L you think gets everybody's going crazy? It be caress one. Oh, that's what I keep seeing people. YEA want me to tell you the youth listen that ain't coming out of the house. I think so this other person, I don't

think nobody gets Nobody gets him. Nobody gets drink nobody, no one, nobody, nobody, nobody. Let's go to the next subject. Yeah, no, nobody, nobody gets him. Son. Listen, Drake could do forty, forty R R and twenty. He could do forty. He could do battle Nobody getting call you in the same night I went to im. Sorry, I'm sorry out But you think like that, Like, um, what Kanye ever do something like that? I love the fact you taking a shot. We'ven at the gas. I love that. I love that

I'm being ready to got damn there. I don't let you outshot me. Well, um, you think I didn't even do something like that, though, I don't think. So we'll put itself. He did do it with theft said album dropped. With album dropped, he did a different time though. Okay, we'll see. I think any type of nigger here'll do like a gospel he want to go against like Kirk Franklin. He'll go outside the genre. I think that's what I'm saying. He'd do kids even further out, like you'll go like

Kirk colbein type ship. I mean, he's dead but you mean, like, I personally can't see him doing the verses at this point in his career. But you never know. You know, he said he wanted to Danny McBride to play him in the movie. That's what I knew. He's a legend, Danny McBride with the mullet, with the mullet. Kenny Powers would kill Kanye. It's a black Kanye, Kanye and jay Z. That would be crazy. That would be a good one. Who's the living It should be Kanye against Paul McCartney, right,

some crazy like don't like that? Don't It won't work? Yeah, I don't want to see that ship. I don't want to see. So what's the next step. What's the next move for y'all? We've got it in You've got a luxurious executive. So what's the next move are we? Are we trying to do tobacco like blunts because all people like blunts, although I'm gonna take something not tobacco, but not tobacco. Though they got ones that you like them? What the hip raps? The White Boys? No, I don't

like those. Um, there is something that I like though. There's a company called Packwood do a great job of fake tobacco. It's not tobacco. It's a couple of companies. I don't want to keep naming them. But even Saucy, Saucy got a good blunt. I don't know if you Alex talk. I don't know if they got a great, great, great great blunt. So is that something that you guys

are doing it? You guys are I'm gonna stick with papers from that, Um, I think that Yeah, we're eventually, like we want to say on the health and wellness side of it, you know what I'm saying, but also lifestyle, you know what I'm saying. So like that's so a lot of the products that we will create will be kind of aim in that direction. You know what I'm saying. Cans right, bro, Like we just just high end quality, bro. We just want every time you haven't experienced a Vidola

Ford to be a good one. You know what I'm saying. That we have the product to let it kind of let it speak for itself. You know what I'm saying. That we think about adding like brothers like him to strategic partnerships and different things like that. It's really for us to try to figure out how do we put

a strangle hole around the culture of candidates. You know what I'm saying, because a lot of the company needs that we're out here buying product from and stuff like they don't look like us, you know what I'm saying. And that's a crime. You know what I'm saying, because you really just think about what our community been through because of cannabis. You know what I'm saying, Any fibers in the all drug arrests and black communities, is cannabis related?

Any initiative on on the company's side to help with that, Like, yeah, we work, so we work. So that's the thing. So I don't pick one thing, right, you know what I'm saying. I kind of go across all of it, right, So like within I give back. You know, we feed, We feed people, We do expongements. We help people with this company car and rebound where we helped them with re entry back into the community, so trying to help them find places to live, in jobs and different things like that.

You know what I'm saying. Like my biggest thing is like social, social, and economic empowerment, you know what I'm saying, Like we can, we could, we could, uh, we can march and do all that ship as long as we want. But until we can figure out how we can put money into the pockets of the people from the community, what's ever going to change, you know what I'm saying. And that's what we really focus on, is trying to hire more people of color and just really give them

this opportunity so that they can participate. Because getting the job is one thing too, but we think ownership is another important thing, you know what I'm saying. So there's different social equity initiatives around the country. I think New York did an unbelievable job. You know what I'm saying. That they're smoking everywhere in New y'all. They're smoking everywhere

and everywhere. But also when we talk about how they want to implement the program, you know what I'm saying, they're providing funding and all these different things that we will need in order to be successful, because if we don't have no bread, there's no way to really participate. In a lot of times, the money that is available to us as predatory money, meaning first time we sunk up, we default, we can't pay back our loan, they take

over our business opennies on the dollar. You know what I'm saying, So we're trying to change all of that. You know what I'm saying. That's what we're working on, and that's what John is now coming on with the Village side of the business is is really focused on you know, um acquiring licenses and excuse me, licenses and states where you know, the limited licenses you don't actually need your own dispensary, just get it into every other

spent to me. Yeah, we can get right as a brand, we can do that, right, So we'd rather get a cultivation manufacturing and if we can get retail, that's icing on the cake. You know what I'm saying, we can really control fully you know or you know, our distribution. Like you said, it's limited licenses in every state. So it's a lot of effort to try to get those licenses. Effort.

I mean, like seriously, Like in New York the first round, they gave out ten licenses, right, you know, each one of those people, none of them will be like they considered they checked the minority box because they take They gave three white women a license, but their husbands two of their husbands were billionaires, right, so that you know what I'm saying, it's all kind of bullshit, you know what I'm saying. So we're trying to change that. We're

speaking on that every day. It's in due time. But those licenses, just to give you an example, like those licenses are worth a hundred million dollars, you know what I'm saying, Like, and they cost them probably five million dollars to acquiry, you know what I'm saying. So when you think about like what it costs just to really be able to play in this game, it's like it's crazy, you know what I'm It's like same prices or l A is is not as expensive, you know what I'm saying.

But you know, the l A process, I've been a part of this process for the last two years, and it's really fucked up. I mean they really drag people out. You know. In order to you know, get a license, you had to be in control of the real estates, and I mean you had to have some form of

a lease. You're paying money. I know people that like refinanced their homes or whatever just to be able to you know, pay those notes, and they still haven't been any licenses issue two years later, you know what I'm saying. So certain states is definitely. You know what I'm saying

really kind of you know, twisted. But you know, like I said, I think New York is one that's a pretty good one working with you know, on a daily basis, and uh, you know around the country is just trying to figure out how we can impact and give people a real opportunity for ownership in the cannabis space. Do

you watch the show? You don't watch it? You gotta watch this shot on TV that kind of changed the hit actor with the dreads and yeah, Jaco Lattimore and all that listen, um Leno White, that's the whole I do not watch it because that's my homegirl. I watched it because, like, by the way, I'm black and Latino. I have black and Latino family in Chicago. I have Black family and Latino family that live a course of street from each other, never seen each other for thirty

years because they was warring. And when I came out there, it's the first time that I had my my black family and my span my Puerto Rican family meet together. And they're like what a living Courser street had it? But they're not a family, you understand. I don't know if I'm making sense but and that's my own. That's my only critique of Leno Whites. The shot is I said, yo, she said, I said, yo, this is my favorite show. I love it so much. I'm so sorry to be

that guy that gives you a one critique. And she's like, well, what's the one critique? You know what I mean? And I'm like, I didn't see a Puerto Rican in there, Like there's no Chicago, there's no Humble Park, there's no there's no that. That's probably the only critique criticism. And Mexicans a lot of Mexican now, Mexican is now. But if you really, if you really really even searching Latino gangs,

that origin is from Lan King's Chico. The biggest gangs folk folk nation all came to Black Pea Stones all that just like like Chicago. I feel like this, I l A was gangbanging first, but Chicago showed them how to separate the land. Like Yo, t Rogers, t Rogers south Side. Let me pick up to my people Gangster Chronicle podcast, who was doing a documentary on t Rogers

right now. He's from Chicago. Originally he went to the Jungles and Broad Black Peace Stones, Black Pea Stoles, which is originally originally a Chicago gang brought up to l A. And now it's thousands of members all over the world. You're growing up and hearing these local street gangs and now you know, twenty years later you're like what, like, I know, you gotta be buddying, like, so, what's crazy? Because I'm from the low end um area called Lake Meadows,

which was right off A thirty third in Cottage. About a mile away was the fort which was the black Stone that was the headquarters. Okay, that's um. The brothers for the four Brothers that Jeff Ford and Johnny for well, I know now I'm from looking listen, come on, keep going, come on. So I grew up like like right around all of that. I was never you know really the documentary. You know, I didn't want to look at like I was down with the Four Brothers, you know, the documentary.

But I was, you know around in my name bhood, you know, new people on both sides, and that was like the Black Panthers. They was feeding the kids that that gang essentially that I watched as a youth is was a part of what was going on in l A. Because he brought them out here, I mean out there and uh yeah, you know it's it's crazy how much you know the street organizations had impact on as children and tell your funny ship my first time in Chicago

as Nori. I've been in Chicago as Poppy and vicked Santiago with my family, but now I've come back as Nori and I wore my hat to the wrong side, to the wrong side, didn't and the person said, move your hat, move your hat, fix your hat. You're like, what what you mean? He told you that like trying you. You just remember me being like, what what the you mean?

Moved my hat? And then they looked as soon as they heard by accidents, like yeah, he don't know no better my sock, i'ld have my socking up in a certain way. I'm poorter week and so I always put put money in my sock. I don't know why, and like they would check me, like you'll put your sock down, Like what the funk? Like is that something you just grew up a part of and you just knew that or that's something you had to learn. Chicago is like something you had to learn quick if you were in

the city. You know, I came from the city. I'm a city kids, so you know, when I'm moving around trying to throw my little parties and stuff and trying to be cool with certain sides, you just have to know how to move and you know how to be respectful to know who's what you know and your new tro You could be newtro, I could be I was affiliated on a couple of sides. But I'm very neutral, you know what I mean. I was never. I was never.

I was never a game bag. I was never you trying to make it and it's time was you're not trying to at this story young, you know, coming from a certain neighborhood. It's just like if you're from this neighborhood and it's a g D neighborhood and you're kind of g D. But I wasn't. Never, I wasn't. It's that like something that's funny because right now there's g D in New York, there's g D is everywhere, the

biggest black guy in the world. But that was something that again was originally in chicag on the South side of Chicago. And you you ever thought you'd be seeing ship like that, is it bumped out to see it when you go with another place and see it because Larry Jr. And I grew up together, and when you hold on listen book because you know when he's saying, Larry, Larry, who Trump's gonna part of him? Bro? I don't know why you put that call in, man, I just I

just I just know. But little Larry Yes. So it's just like just seeing you know, and he's just so chill and just like that a good brother and his family they're all great people, and you know, just like seeing how much impact him and his family had throughout my youth and just seeing how it just grew and exploded. Like I would never think that there would be g ds in Brooklyn, you know what I mean, but out of there everywhere, you know what I mean. You know,

it's a crazy thing about going to Chicago. I always loved Compete Green. You known, my club was across the street, and remember remember the ticket spot called Sammy's. I used to go there all the time and the police is to come out like, yeah, what are you doing here? I just didn't know. I was like, I love the ticket spot Sammy's. But gone. Yeah, So now let me ask you something that we're gonna move on to something pretty pretty generic. But in my opinion, I'm outside looking

and I'm not from Chicago. I have mean on both sides from Chicago, Black and Latino. Right, But in my opinion, when the O g S was around, when the competing greens was around, Chicago was an organized place. Yeah, it seems like to me they took they took out all the ogs and once they locked up and the body just fell right right at once they took out the O G S. I felt like, now it's wild wild West. It's like they do this thing. It's like, uh, they call it a b K E b K anybody killer,

everybody killer. It's kids as bad and that's why so much, you know, and they're doing it everywhere, you know, it's not it's not just on the South Side. Now they got duck on Oak Street or Walton, which is like Rodeo. Imagine you know, guys pulling up on Rodeo and Chicago

they got dunk there. That's what they got, you god bless. Yeah, But thought it this bad because like, like like I said earlier, I don't know if he was here, but um, I'm sitting here, I'm a little late, and I go to the barbershop and I hear all this new music, but I never get to see the videos. Right. So I'm sitting there in the barbershop and every here's my dog, and I'm talking about every video they're like this, and I'm like that. I remember they used to monitor us.

I remember the most person who would get away with lyrics on Violator was Missy. That was it, Like Missy. If you literally listen to miss these lyrics, you're like, damn, he's saying some ship. She's like saying some games ship. But she said and you ain't saying you ain't realized that she's saying, I'm beating you up then up, Like but you ain't realized she's saying that. Like what she's saying. But so us, we had to remix our lyrics, someone

to say for us to have a commercial record. Right now, they're letting these records go out and then the the videos play with like I forget. I think it's Polo G from Chicago, Chico. I think it's Polo G. He got a video where he just wakes up and someone's just shooting at him. He's just he's just standing there and they're just shooting. I'm like, what the fuck is this? I'm like, it's that on the recordar TV? Like are we not on YouTube? They're like no, this is on

whatever whatever it was. I'm sitting back. We couldn't do that? Is that? Like, I'm sorry to get deep. Is that like a form of black genocide? Because just this thing about it? Come on, but not, Let's think about it. If these are the dudes, that's our heroes, right, I mean when when when I was doing the music, I was heroes to people. If these are the new dudes, that's heroes and that's the image they're portraying. How the

fuck are we not? You just just see the two fifteen year old boys shoot the security guarden in Atlanta. Heard about that rolled up. It was like a video game, bro. They had mask on, they got the security this broad day life And I'm sitting back like what the what the fun will give year old kids? Yeah? So like is this like a form of like let us kill ourselves? This is the new music? You followed us this way? And I think so that's what I'm on. That's what

I think. You could see your point like why is it now acceptable? Yeah? You know what I'm saying because once again, I feel like our kids are so impressionable that when they see that, they're starting to normalize and think it's okay. It's like just away of life, you know what I'm saying. And I think that to your point, I think that these kids, it is a game to them life for death. Like for us, we value life, you know what I'm saying. Special that God bless for

its past three days. I've heard of these three artists, and then when I heard of these three all I heard him being arrested. Like that's funked up. It is bro like when you come this, this is this business and you get a record deal, We're supposed to be celebrating you. I'm not supposed to be finding out about you because you got arrested. Does that make sense? Like

that ship is like kind of funked up. I don't hear that only having like you said, you've always said, it never happens, it's just our But it depends on the actions though too. No, but it's glorified because it's coming from Yeah. Because see his point, like when you think about like the hardest songs on the radio right now is literally talking about like somebody that got smoked stories that it's like a lot of y'all. Ship was like storytellers because I'm hating a little bit. I'm like,

I can't get away with that what I'm saying. But you were telling us, so youre talking about somebody, but you saying the name like they're saying the name said then I was there, We shot him there. It's just different, like this whole storytelling. Now they're telling the truth. They're telling truth. Totally different. And I didn't know what was

And tell my man Sharif, who's here. We was arguing about like who had the most influenced Chicago niggas or New York niggas whatever over there, and he was saying, obviously in Chicago, and he started talking about drill, drill, drill, And I'm sitting on the call because he argued with me and my man Nay and I have no idea what he means by drill music. And then I looked looked it up and realized that you didn't know what drill that these things just talking about killing. That's real,

that's scary. I'm last stek just to Chicago last week, man, my man, damn I co founding Viola in village and we're at the Noble Hotel. We want to know who to grab some food uptime. These three kids in front of us, and as we were walking on the elevator, I could tell they start looking back, like kept looking at me in the California said no, we were in Chicago. No tell, he's three kids. They're walking. They get on the elevator, so we get't elevate. Then it's in front

of me, so he don't kind of see. He just walks on the elevator. So I'm looking. I could tell the way they're looking, They're like, what's up. So we get on the elevator right and one of the ones in the back, he kind of stepped to the back and he's still like looking at us, like you know what I'm saying, Like damn, They're like, why do we get on the elevator with them? So what I said to them, I was just like, yo, where y'all from?

And he was like shot rack. He said that ship soon by by the time I said from, he was like shot Rack And I was like, oh, he was like where you from. I was like, I'm from Jersey. I'm telling you good He's like, yeah, I'm good, and he kind of calmed down. Yeah, you could tell like he was looking at an enemy. Yeah, bro, he was looking at us like what's going on? You know what I'm saying? And like the boys in Chicago, they ain't playing them kids out there, bro, because these dudes they

were kids. Yeah, it's funked up, but the music is definitely selling that ship. You know what I'm saying. Crazy, you gotta new artist. You got one of those crazy guys, a new Drill. Crazy guys. They're all crazy to me. I love him. I love him what I used to be used to be like, I'm looking like, no, not right now, right now, a little dirt. None of them does. I fun with them. I love all them, the young

kids out of Chicago, you know what I mean. I got a lot of relationship with their management teams and all that, but I'm just focused on y and right he got that. How do we look at that? How did you look at that? Scene started? Let me just tell you something while I'm sorry, okay going there, Yeah sorry. What never mean by that is when they jumped on Chief Keith record, right Drill. That's where Drill went pop

see drill was underground. Let me tell you something. I walked to my son's room one day and I saw him watching Chief Keith video. And I first did not like. I was just like, all right, cool because it looked like they was a colder sat It looked like they was like and I did not see that they was pulling off guns like I just saw it. They was just over there in the house, and I was just like, okay. I was like, I look, I said, that's what you're listening to, and then I left out. Then I realized

these things got choppers, Like what the funk? I just allowed my son to just look at And then I met Chief Keep. Obviously it was great. But yes I met Chief Keep in front of the Mansion Hotels, looking awesome with your chief. Um. But Kanye made drill music go to that level when he jumped on that's that ship. I don't like the first record. It was what did you feel about that? Did you know what he was doing? Um?

At the time, I wasn't working with you, but I was working with a kid named King Louis who he shouted out on that record. Um, King Louis, that's that's not um Okay, it was. It was like they were like the two kind of big drill guys at the time. It was Chief Keith and King Louis. And King Louis actually got on the Jesus album We Ain't and Esus Jesus.

That's not my favorite, great album opinion, that great album, but the album I would say, you know, yeah, he's a visionary and he saw, you know, what Keith was doing, and I think that's why he got on the record. In my opinion, that's just what I believe. He saw what was going going on with him and they had a relationship, and uh, it really helps it, like you say, but launched the whole movement because keep it still. You know, he's still a king of drill. He's still a king

of drill. Can you define drill music? So cargo sub genre street like that from Chicago? Yeah, yeah, I got you. It's um, it's really at its core south side street hip hop of Chicago. That's what it really is. There's the drill artists all over the city and all over the country the world, over the world, but really it started out south and it's like some south side street ship.

It's definitely hip. It's definitely hip hop because at First Street Ron when you do the Origin of Drill, we do the Origin of Drill, and you see these different clicks because they were all just like little kids. They were like basically just shotting out these games, all these different sets that we didn't know. But we were just listening to this ship like this is sound ill and then it kept going they kept going right, and um,

now Chicago is the forefront of motherfucking right music. It's right, what what Kanye? And without them? Like, wow, is that something you brought of? Absolutely? Man, I've been working in the Chicago hip hop ship since eighty nine, So for me, it's just a you know, a dream come true. God bless that hopefully, Boli glacamole. Man, this is a good one. Good motherfucker. Sure doesn't necessarily gang music, right or is it? I think that's I think that's up to your point

of view. Yeah, because that's like saying gangster rap. Don't mean you a gangsters against rap falls under gangster. Yes, what I'm trying to music story? Yeah, I think tell the story, but stead this morning, the story doesn't end well for most cases, it's really game or is it just you start ton but it's street street. I think it's streets necessarily gang. I don't want to use that word because that, to me, that has like a street

organization implication. I'm not saying that, it's just street stories. To me, it's like if you have be for somebody and then you put it on the record, and you're just putting that on the record. But that's I understand what my perception of it is. I just wanted to know for someone that's from there, even if you should be removed from there. No just and n w A

telling the dollars because it said the police. But these kids to block and they're really shooting at each other, and we are we are removed from it because I guarantee on the street let they're gonna say, you guys don't know what the funk you're talking about. But yeah, Chicago dude, don't get a funk about the Chicago dues. They don't get about Chicago dudes neither. They just it's just it's not this Chicago thing. No, drill has now been worldwide, you know, drill everywhere he was he was

speaking to the origins of drill. Like when he said when he said, he's correct it's about that, and it's just like hip hop, like alright, cool hip hop. The Bronx had it for so long, like this is just be clear. The Bronx had it. Yes, they invented it. We gotta give it to them. But eventually it went to Queens, Eventually it went to Brooklyn, eventually it went to whatever. And they couldn't just clean hip hop no more.

Hip hop is everything the same thing with Drill. Drill started in the South Side of Chicago, but does not mean that a person in Liberty City, a person in Old Child, the person for the projects, a person then whatever can't can't can yeah, Bush can't can't do the same thing. But it goes back to my original question to you, John Um, and maybe you can answer it. Does someone like Kanye look back and think of Drill and say, like, what does he think of it? Ultimately?

I can't answer that. I know that he respects or I would think that he respects the impact, But I can't answer, can you respect artists but understand the negative implications that this music has overall in the bigger scheme of it impact? I can can you, Yeah, you go watch porn without being a freak? Yes, you don't necessarily mean you know he is somebody boys some point we bust one out. Don't mean you're freaking just mean you had to let one go. Baby, have an interest, interest happens.

What's your favorite part of the music business? They creating, creating the music and the actual content. Yeah, studio, studio stuff, studio, and then I think second behind that is uh working on rollout, but definitely the inception, like being there when they beat, the first time to beat is played in that first flow and all that. I just like, that's just always been my ship. Studio, right ship. So what's your favorite part or Kanye? Is it to do some

part or is it the artist part. I'll do a shot. This work, it's my ground. Brendan real like someone like that. I don't want he hasn't drinking, want no no, this like that? That ye that, I'll take a show me take a shot. I can't let you take a shot. I take a riot. Yeah, I take a shot, but you know what, it's very interested. Let me let me take a let me take a shot, take a shot. Let's take a shot with you and for you. But salu okay, I'm gonna take a little bit take a

little bit, just a little brow. I had to kill that cool. You took it down, but you took you took a shower. I can't really drink, you know. You know what's interesting to hear you say that? What's that? Is what I asked you. Is Kanye the artist or Kanye A the producer? But the producer is the artist and the artist is the producer. I mean, it's all artistry. It is all artistry. But I mean you mean the M maybe the artist artist. I mean when you say

artists to me, the producer is the artist. Okay, maybe I should have said MC. Okay, all right, so MC, because it's like it's a totally different like when I look at for all as an m C and I look at him as an artist, is totally different. Um, I think I'm more of a fan of Kanye as an artist, but I can't say I'm less as a

fan of Kanye as a producer. Like like, so it's it's a very hard because you first learned of Kanye as a producer and probably became a fan of his making beats on these different people projects, specifically jay Z and the whole fan Rock and all that. So like he was getting hot first as a producer. You know what I mean? You know, how did you first come to you? Though? As I met him thirty years ago and ninety one through my boy Lucien. He was in a rap group called State of Mind. That was his

first round group Kanye. It was Lucien, Kanye and another guy named Jean. You're already working with the time I started working with no I D and uh ninety uh six seven, You met in Kanye first? Yeah, yeah, but no but I met no I D around the same time though, so I've known them both probably about thirty years. But um I started working with Kanye soon as soon as I met him, we started working together, Like as soon as he told me, he said, You've got to work with me, dude. You know he was always so

ill like he wasn't never whacked. You never met with Mothercker who was never whacked. He just was never wacking. Beach was always crazy and raps was always hard like, he just was always just that NIGGD makes those for Kanye. M are we gonna make great bigs and James cous In here because because the bigs got to have an opinion of that too. Wanted to work. Come on, goddamnit, come on, come on, because James go along just two minutes.

Come on now. But that's ill. I didn't um. You know, it's only certain people who can live in those two different lives, right, A great producer and a great artist right off top, I think of Dr Dre right, I think of Pump Daddy for sure. I think of Kanye. I think of for real. I think you just don't forget about cut cute tip, qute tip? Have it? Have it? Have it? For sure? I have it. Yeah, that's that's

that's pretty hard. That's pretty hard to maintain both. But even if you look at that list, you gotta kind of say, Kanye, is that really the right trip? No? No, no, well no, yeah, I guess what was? What was Chicago Rivals? Let me ask you something, Let me ask you something? Right, So, yeah, you're right, you can't do too. But it's this record that comes out right, and you know, hopefully you can help us with this. Big brother, my big brother, you used to be dame man. Big is brother, who is

hip hop? Brother? Who is No? I did friend? No, I did man? Not a story again? So this record comes out. How do you feel hearing this record prior to it coming out, because this could be taking the wrong way this right, What do you think? What do you what is your first thought? I think he was just being honest, as he always was. If you just listened to him, he tells you what's on his mind.

He never would hold back, and I think that's what really was so warm and um just welcoming to like the fans, and that's why people just love him so much because he never holds back. Still to this day, you know what I mean if you think know that that really happened. You know, we cool, but yo, back then we we was getting fronted on straight up. But I think you need to take the other shot. So really that was really like that, like yeah, but shout out to Biggs Man to us on our first private jet,

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know what I'm saying. So I know how important it is for athletes to recover. You know what I'm saying, because we always hurt, Bro, Like there's no such thing. It's like I think, once you would come a professional athlete, you're never got to get hurt. It's just always something constant, recovery, constantly recovery. Something's hurting Bro Constantly. I ask a question, please and no, no, go ahead please. I love how he's shaking. Ask you a question. In the Big Three

and the Big Three. Ch Oakley gave you a good one. Charles gave you a hit in the nose. You fell, and he tried to apologize. I think you said, forget about it. It is what it is, part of the game. But how was that dealing with Charles Oakley? All I'm gonna say, this is all I'm gonna say. When I was a rookie, there was a lockout, so Michael Jordan was retiring, but he was still trying to go through the process of helping us get through that process. And

I'm not gonna see who it was. But all I know is we're staying in the lobby at the Hill and hotel in in uh in like Union Square or whatever that's hotel we right, And all I hear is like chill Oak, chill OK. And I watched oak Charles Oakley smack one of like the NBA like tough guys. That was did he say you don't know here? He smack Jordan? He smacked Jordan. No, he smacked somebody. That's crazy told that name. What who you said, Bobbley? That's crazy that he would say that name. But he smacked

this guy. It seems like I wanted but he smacked this guy. And I'm I'm eighteen years old and I'm sitting there like what the fun bubble got smacked. Let's just start out. I'm not saying, I'm just see how is Let's say that name. Just spread the room. We'll deal, We'll deal with it. Smacked his face on his name, start with in the Hilton Hotel, Charles smack with my own eyes, it was two Charles, two Charles. I'm just saying, so just think about that. It's being like a eighteen

year old. It's a possibility that Charles Oldie smacked Charles Walking. Let's just throw it out there. It's a good chance it's a good chance. So when he hit me, you know it's just and what mean and and two dollars domestic? Abut in two dollars seventeen? Are you hit me in two dollar seventeen? Big three? In our season? Shot the ice cuel, he gave you a they gave you don't shot to the championship. So let's safe to say when Charles Oakley got kicked up the garden, was you mad

or he was like, funk that? You get that? Now? I'm just saying, I know we're OK. We'll go with some ship. Kicking up was the smartest thing they could have done. All right, I don't know. All right, let's weed clarification. So when you saw the footage, you felt like Oaks should have been kicked out and got kicked out. But because he said the next legend, no, I mean, they should have never done. They say out to right,

get in. It's a difference. They go to another. No, I think I think we're oak Man, Like, you know, Oak's already in bent. They kicked him out. Yeah, I could tell he was bent. I said, I see that ship. Get a little drunk. People little drunk, but even drink chaps and stuff. Nah, he like if he work, he come on like Dad's okay, but he still shouldn't got kicked out, he said, he got kicked out. Man, he a leged like you said. But that's what I'm saying.

But I think they just, uh, they didn't let Patrick you in in the other day. Yeah, you don't let Patrick about that? Right about that because I'm not trying to get an NBA contract ever. But I remember the kid about having tickets and we have the worst owner in the next history wrong film, No, not what the James yeah, Ernie one before all right, kind of he was a g confused to be way too much James Dolan with his name and I don't want to be

for him. Was I don't want to be bad for the Garden, but I don't need to give a funk like it's okay, I'm watching from the Irish paup around the corner. It's all right, um, but he's kind of like not really letting us live. He did this year, right, we got a couple of players, got the rolls back. Phenomenal Chicago. I'm sorry took it all right? What's what's the m v P? That was r m v P Julie Judith Randow and then um, what's the number one pick?

Jarrett R J. Barrett. We were looking good for a second. We did right John to Atlanta. They take Philadelphia. Sorry, that's a little drake man ran a little drake t little drake like little Drake was just throwing up number one. He's all over the place, a little man. That's crazy, that little light skinned little things. It Bro, but I a lie. The fact that the Knicks even got there. It felt good as a New Yorker. But the guard was rocking. To Bro, I don't have to disrespectful fans

when they threw through that. Yeah, that's but that's not I like that assholes. But listen, I'm gonna say I wanna say real quick, real quick. For me and my experience in the league, the loudest arena for me, hands down, has still been the Garden. So I was in the arena when Larry Johnson hit the four point play against the Basis, and Bro, I thought it was an earthquake, Like the motherfucking arena was like shaking, like it was

like moving, you know what I'm saying. So I'm like, for sure, like you playing older, you played the gold State. He was, yeah, he was. They was wild to but but they was like, see what I love about the Oakland fans, especially back then it wasn't corporate like now it was corporate. Now it was all the tech money and all that ship they got to. But before it was like the Nigga fans, like you see the white boy.

Um he said, sons in four. Yeah, he was like sons in the four and he was right, And they swim from yesterday, get out of shout out of ja crowding. So dude, beat down. Dude gotta beat down. And they lost in four. They lost in fourth, so bad bro might take it this shit, he's got a good and what's the nut's looking like two and two? But but James Hardens her cap got hurt the other night with with an ankle. He's not playing game five honest, and

Brook Lopez and Drew Holiday they might squeeze it through. Man, they might take it. Katie got to get fifty tomorrow, ain't um, what's what's up a man name? Um that came from the Clippers. No, he's not doing it, but the fucking man. But he's not number two. You're not gonna be able to do it. No, he's gonna be

the man, but he's not gonna do it. Yeah, I don't think he's getting so yeah, yeah, Milwaukee got an opportunity to take over, and then it's gonna be Phenis Milwaukee and Jay Crowding CP three and fucking Devin Booker. They're gonna win it CP three to the Championships. That would be wh're CP three on de say Devin Booker, stop saying the other dude, you keep saying Jay crowd CP three and Devio Jay crowded first, No you got

I'm how bad back? The reason I said j crowd because he played with Miami he last year and then they lost crying. Yeah, you know what you're going on? No, Jawder the truth, but he said cheap David Jake Crowder, You're right. I love this talk. I might go Cameron Pain before I go him too, but just we're talking about it after this show. We could talk about we're

gonna bring in other people or not. Yeah, already, come on, come on, come on baby too bad Yo, I'm gonna take a definite opportunity while we're in transition at Houlton. So what was it? What was the difference between Indiana Pacers and Golden State. You're coming in as rookie and then you transition into a better was a way better playing Golden State, but you had a better Uh. But we had the same We had the same kind of

family environment. That's why I said the most suscept I had was on teams or like we was like brothers. You know that we're going to Indiana. Didn't go to save It's only two teams where I had that kind of vibe. That's hard because Matt Barnes and uh Stacks, they're like relatable. They deal with the real real we we talk as humans. Uh, Derrick McKee, Antonio Davis Dale Davis,

Chris Mullen. Those are legends to me. So as you're going in as a young man from the high school, how you see them as veterans and then you deal with people that you relate to a different ambience. But for me, I had it. I mean I had to be with them niggas all the time though, so I ain't had no choice but to kind of learn and I learned man ship basketball like how to have a girlfriend and yeah, like they told me all that ship, I got to move you know what I'm saying. No,

I respect that a percent. Being that you're an athlete and you're from New Jersey. I always want to relate that because this is definitely Miami, New York and drink champs. I'm the only one New Jersey. So every time I get Nordy by Nature Lords and Underground or anybody and yourself, I gotta say, relate that struggle. We don't get the love. But but you're being an NBA athlete and being an NBA veteran at a young age. You came in high school, professional,

now your entrepreneur, and you're still young forty. That's young. So congrats to you and celebrity celebration to you on your efforts and endeavors. But how can you get back to let's say, New Jersey to the people, I don't got another How can you get back and say I'm doing it, I'm showing it, I'm proving it, and there's a future. So mostly what we've been doing is like obviously all the states where we you know, where we

have licenses in or whatever. Like I said, we do mad ship in the community from like you know, rehabbing homes, rebuilt, refurbishing, parks. Like I said, always feeding people. There's just all about the community, you know what I'm saying, Because it's just under all Harrison Wellness, it's it's under Violar Cares. So we have a company called Viola Cares. Yeah, yeah, so

Viola Kids. So that's why I said. We had the partnership with Ruined Rebound and we helped with the re entry, with the expungements, and then like I said, we just worked with just different people that we know within the community that can help us with the with the get back in regards to feeding, like turkey drives, clothing drive, toy drives, all of that. You know what I'm saying, it's community accepting you for what you're bringing out or for what you was as an NBA player. No, I

think now now like we're winning. Now I'm saying, Yeah, it's different. You know what I'm saying. It's cannabis. You know what I'm saying. Something that people don't expect mostly cannabi is any interaction with cannabies. So we led to something very negative, you know what I'm saying. So now I was like, oh, ship, like this is helping us, this is rebuilding us, is giving up, putting us in

a better position to win. You know, I'm saying I want to congratulate you and say I followed that, and I'm glad that you gotta chair get with you, okay, coming in J threw you know it was it was a salute forgot to be here. Thank you for everything. Appreciate your drinking Sports Edition Space. No, that's called baby please please, that's that's that's my drink of choice. Yeah, I ain't a lot of the way you open it. Let me open it, like I was very nervous. How

you opened it. You just left the ship right there. I'm like, no, because you know that's your bold Ye. Listen, we have bad experience bad experiences. I got you, I got you. You can't drink tis love chap all right now, we got some management powerhouse right here, right now. So I want to know between both y'all, well nor we already kind of alluded to you about who is the most don't say difficult, but what's the most difficult part

about managing and artists? I don't say specific artists, trying to help them prioritize the difference between what they think is important sometimes and what's a real true priority in business, Like I feel for you dealing with like Kanye, for example, when you from the outside looking and you know, when we're looking at Kanye, it seems like he's unmanageable. Yeah, he says that. I mean, I don't even look at myself as his manager. I'm just on his team, just

helping him run his business, you know. And then my my specific focus is uh is on music. But um yeah, I would say, you know, if anybody is I'm managed, it's him because he just has so many different interests and he moves in so many different ways, you know, because I've I've managed artists myself, and and it feels like and I also feel like I'm a part of the creative process. I don't know if y'all feel. I'm assuming I think y'all feel that you're part of the

creative process. And it just feels like it just takes so much energy to manage another human being. Well, I mean, in my personal opinion, it's just me speaking. I don't find any part of management difficult because I don't take it as managing a person. I'll take it as managing an artist. I take it as managing the things around them. To help them excel and succeed and make their dreams

come true. So it's not difficult because to see somebody else excel makes me happy, and making somebody else's dreams come true in turn make mind come true. That's how I approach management. But the one thing with an early artist that sometimes could be positioned as difficult to meet is business etiquette. Everybody's always trying to keep it real and want to talk a certain way and add a certain way. When you get into certain rooms, you know what I mean, there has to be a certain amount

of etiquette. I mean I heard, you know them talk about getting into the cannabis business, and you know there are certain rules and guidelines you have to follow. So when you're in certain rooms, those rooms and guidelines become very important and you speak a certain way in a certain approach to things. That's a difficult part in the beginning, but once they catch it and to see them find out okay to get into their zone, it becomes like, wow, look at that. Now, I don't need to sit here

and close the deal for you. Close your own deal. That's what you want from an artist. Why Noriri grow into who he's become? You know what I'm saying. As an artist, he was difficult and his crew was difficult everything around. But it was wonderful to see his growth because it was so much influence from thest to owner

of myself. So when you see that or that hard work becomes us worth it like graduated and not even graduated, it's like yeah, because we always knew he had it in it, because sometimes our job is identified talent before it knows this talented and to bring that talent out so you know, and then when you see it actually happened, it's like when you when you harvest that strange and it comes out perfect. You've harvested an artist. And now look where they look what they could do, you know

what I mean. It's like, okay, all right on to next. You's good over here, next they need you. You got you got the best shirt on right now. One flower at a motherfucking time, flowing at the time, baby, all right? That is that the logo? Is it? The slogan? Nah, it's kind of kind of for us a movement, you know what I'm saying, And just it's designed internally for us to uh, you know, keep it, keep it one step at the time. Keeping grassroots obviously the temptations to

be real big. We just want to make sure as we move and grow, we're impactful, you know what I'm saying. So that's kind of internally what it means to me. So Marlboro come tomorrow and say I want to buy y'all say one flower the time or you saying at the time. Are you're saying we're selling? That depends on this. This is what I think. I think Marble is not gonna give me my value, and it's a compliment if

they come, that's our value. I apologize. So I would take it as flattering that they're interested, but I would assume that they're not gonna give me the most that we can get for what we've built. I think that's not the best way to get where we're trying to go. It's tough, marm Bro. That's funny because you know, I love new pests that side of things, So I don't I just don't want to be hypocritical, because that's what like um, it seems like, you know, cannabis has headed

towards like um. You know, these big tobacco companies that are losing money because people are smoking more marijuana nowadays that they're smoking tobacco and I feel like that's what is that is that factual? They're losing money. I have no idea for saying this is in my world, like I don't I don't know like in real life what I'm saying, Like in my world, I don't have a

lot of cigarette smokers. I got about two left and our crew I think it's Deuce and Um Sunny D and they're like Toronto Source Rex's you know what I'm saying, Um, but everybody else is pretty much they moved on to James Cool. Look at James Crew smoking a big cigar. I mean not to say that that's even better than a cigarette, but it's it's it's um, it's it's more acceptable almost, you know what I'm saying. Like I could be anywhere that you could smoke a cigar in the pool,

but you're smoke a cigarette. It's like like what are you doing? Still? Right? So? Um, are you guys trying to have products that like like a candagar? You know the beauty is to be honest, you for a weed and anything. I mean, I think for us, we want to maximize how beneficial it can be for people and and and leverage our position and our access to make sure that we kind of do that. A friend told me, Yeah,

a hair caroline product. It's just many ways as the way Canadas affected you at twenty two as where it affects you at forty two. Right, it's a different thing. It's just a lot of little avenues and lanes. But I mean you can put weed in anything. That's that's the beginning. We want to kind of make it makes sense and kind of perfect our craft as far as how we can affect your lifestyle. So that's the approach we try to take to it. But the Cannon gard no,

I love you more and more. Smoking a better more something a better changed my life. You know, you ever thought we would be legal, James Gruls, I mean to be honest, it's part of the earth. It's a healing flower, you know, and there were so many uses for it that I never thought it was really loss as its legal illegal, But now I never thought that that would be this much of a great business for young blacks and Natinos to get into and to really benefit from.

But it's also kind of for me, kind of double edged swords to see all the people incarcerated. That's that's what needs to be you know, that's what needs to be dealt with. It's like it's like the cure for the problem. It's like all these brothers incarcerated, you know what I'm saying, for selling Tracy bags when he was young, you know, and now there's a bunch of young black entrepreneurs that are invested in the business, in the cannabis business.

I just wish we were more invested in helping those guys out to get them out of jail, and not only to get them out, but also to help them come back into society a certain one. Things have changed a big of the Meek Male and Kim Kardashian, they're actually fighting for that for like for people and pushes or you just freestyling right now, but he let down with the feel about that. You know what I'm saying, It's the reality we deal with every day. I got

locked up seventeen times, So that's what I'm saying. No one came to me and saying sorry, and it's no black people their own one time I got this. This is how funked up it was in New York City at one point, one point, the police see me smoking. I threw this ship and I'm a good like Skelly player, So like when I throw the blood that I cannot find it. The police came and said I found your blood. I said, were because I wanted to, and they still locked me up, Like I'm a good you don't even

play Skelly. Skelly, like this is a foul game like you do. So I listen, I saw the blood, so there's no way they found it, and they still locked me up. I'm smelling it and having the That's how bad New York City laws was, and then they legalized it and says you can't participate if you had a marijuana.

Think there's a lot of layers to it, because if you think about it, like the fact that that black and Latinos are highly incarcerated, the amount of black incarcerated for as small we defenses, and then you see these big cannabis companies not reflecting that population, and I think there has to be something that balances that out, because if anything, you need to look at these guys and cars as pioneers of an industry. No, I mean, I think the issue is what are we gonna do about it?

Like they're they're kind of doing it in front of our face. So you know, all alluded to the culture and and not knows the culture better than anybody. What are we gonna do with all our influence and power to the fact that they're taking us from us? Since billions and dollars A step said something. I mean, I think it's very important. We gotta understand all of our

culture has been vultued. Right that the monograph ads like he's been taking shots at like he'd been having some people was arrested, but it's legal over here, like he's been taking shots like at the whole government. I don't know if you've been people that like not as he should. I mean, is very hypocritical, but I think it's safe to say there's no way that that anybody is going to be able to compete with these big corporations, like

a big tobacco company that has these infrastructures. Nobody's going to compete with that right now. No, No, what I'm trying to say, you get it from a big tobacco company, they're not They're not there. When they get in it, it's gonna be different. What I'm trying to say to you is this is that I think personally is my opinion. The equity is the branding side of it and the branding. To me, we don't I don't think we put enough value. I mean we I think we know that there's a

value in branding. But I think that's that's a lot of value that's brought to the table that when these people with these infrastructures get involved, they're gonna need the branding side of it. And that's where everybody. That's where like the cars are being held by the minority factions. I think the branding is everything. I think to have an effective brand, you want control of the supply chain now because you want a good weed. You want some kids.

You know, I like, I really smoke. So I want to be able to influence what we're putting out smoking now, brother, you know I don't want to be too outs. Yeah, come on, come on, you gotta support your product. You can't say that light up, light up you want to shout to like shot God, he is a man of shot man. What you put you on tag a bone, don't do it. That's the one that's a killing. You need shot glass? All right? Cool? But the branding, the

branding is everything. We support that, and what we're trying to do is facilitate opportunities for brands to kind of solve that problem with the supply and where you bro Chicago together. Okay, Chicago, Chicago, some drill ship in the cannabis. I respect that. God Damn, I'm just h and c J. Got we right? Whoopt? We right? We dropped, dropped three strains? We dropped and I got a pH d in the showing amount of time about this business. And hats off to you because I know you've been in front of

pioneer from the beginning. It was a lot, but yeah, we dropped the three strains we dropped? Whoopt drops? Az U two cookies? No, it's through it's actually through Munchies, which is a mine already owned company out on the West coast um and our distribution is with cookies. But it's almost like a necessary branding tool right now, where you know, you don't want the artists to go parking money on a bus down and and and the chain.

You want parking money somewhere to invest in future business and counterbusiness a great future business to invest in because it's still growing and it's becoming more legal as we go along, you know, I mean I saw soon now you know, one of the biggest Latin arts in the world,

you know, just took over Puerto Rico. But with the grow and with the with the retail stores, it's growing and he's growing and they'll be retail ss in Puerto Rico with cookies parted with yes, Puerto Ricos, Yes, yes, So there's this whole new business that and it's not just in hip hop world. It's also going more into the lat world. Just like you got to talking about drill before. I mean, Latin artists have driel records. Now you know, you got followed. You gotta how to follow

you always. So it's like the culture is the time is shortening when people are picking up on what top and how to get involved. But we c J Yeah, we definitely did a strain on We learned a lot um and hats off guys, because you guys were there from the beginning. I cannot imagine what it was like that you guys are willing to do, like get along, get down with other artists to give them their own

strain under your umbrella. Or it's like, yeah, we've been talking to a bunch of different artists to be honest, that that fit the right mode of what they're trying to do. You know what I'm saying. We've been having some great conversations and you're gonna be seeing some partnerships being announced in the very near future. Okay, we're enough for me? Yeah, enough for me. He's the least Papa. Are we good? I think it's I think it's like two more questions. Man, I think you got one left?

What I got? I don't know. I don't know something. Yeah I do. I want I'm trying to get in the weed. Mother. The reason why I keep drilling down no pun intended on drill on the branding side is I feel that when this this thing could go national, it could go international, you know what I'm saying. And then when you have a brand that's just known, you can license license, license, license, lis So here's what they think.

If there's gonna be twenty licenses in New York, a dirty licenses in New York or whatever, they feel like they can make the brand themselves and make a higher margin. So what ends up happening is you know some of this system, but it is you want the best product. They feel like, you know, so that's that's where that just gets tricky. So you have to have control of the supply chain. You gotta be able to grow it.

At the end of the day, that's a lot. I mean, it's black people in its farming, so for me, you know, it's not Do you think that the cultivation side of it is one of the most important parts for people to get involved in. I think cultivation and branding go hand and that's the most important part of the whole. The word is distribution and all of that land because I feel like you want, we want to be vertically

integrated whenever possible, because we were in there early. So that's an option, but the way they're doing things, it's not necessarily as much of an option, you know, So distributions Frances France, I don't know about France already grows, already grows in France. You see Murder Mountain the documentary the first they're murdering people up there and we ain't up there and county. It's a whole different, every every state is different. Called Murder Mountain. Fam that's different, though

it's not different. They're murdering people in the mountains, ram taking taking a week yea cocaine. If they're gonna watch the documentary, I knew, Like my people said, Yo, none of that. We don't want to come to Homeboll County with us. I was like, what, Like, I've been in the worst flits in America. Like that's a ChIL. I watched the documentary. I was like, I want to go there. I think I think I think he said something point ain't everybody it's got You got to be part of

the coachure. You gotta live in the coaches has to be real, has to be authentic, right, just like the music. Same thing. That's important because the culture itself is growing exponentially, that's right, and it's all mixed, not about black and brown, mixed culture something that's right, you know. But it's gonna go corporate. That's the thing. It's inevitable. That's what I'm trying to say, is how do we take advantage of something that it's inevitably going to go very corporate and

they have a brand. That's what keeps saying, I can't, we can't be naive to that. You got a great team, you gotta knowledge. But you said something you said you were as like thirty million right, So who was the people that you went to to wasise this money? So it was some of my own money. Um, it was a bunch of ex athletes or whatever. And then like

forensic Family. Okay, no, none of what you wanted. The name we had we just started to get institute was public yeah, like spot, like that's the start that corporated. You know what I mean that I want. I want to drill down in fact, this's billion dollar companies are four years old. They don't have they have a four year head start, So I get it. But I'm saying those people aren't as far along as you might think

that are ahead of the curve. And at the end of the day, it's still selling marijuana, you know what I'm saying. So I don't want to overcomplicate what that's not just but it's not just to your point, not just matter wanted. It's it's also oils. It's also it's you know what I mean. You know we started in constant trates like I yeah, but at the end of the day, it's selling cannabis in some way shape fair enough,

you know what I'm saying. So, and I think y'all influence the culture, like no what I mean, that's what the branding thing. I just want to when it's monetized and want us to be in the best position, in the strongest position possible as far as the brand side of things. But I agree with you, the worldwide distribution of the cannabis brand is the you know, the way to go. Are people even like, all right, you know what all the States is going legal? People even think

about Amsterdam like overseas all people like? But they are they all then when Denver first went, they nemorous. They were all in Denver trying to figure it out. Did you see a documentary about the seeds? No, there are scenes that course a million dollars. What's the name of that company? It's crazy. They're guys that go the seeds. There are guys that go to the Amazon to find a certain seed for a certain stream, and the seeds or a million dollars, Like the business is so diverse. Crazy,

the seed itself, it's so diverse. I was like a million dollars for a seed. So it doesn't sure good crop. You're just getting seeds, good seeds. You don't know what kind of female you're gonna get, right, Yeah, But now got to be a female seed, right, but we planted you just you said, what kind of female seed? You know, females, that's a big word. I don't know what that at least that female, you know, I don't think it has an I'm saying female. It's a female. It's either or

you want it to be female. Then you wanted to be dope because that's true. But it's just like it's like we come from the same mother and father, but you know, y'all could be brothers and y'all are totally different. So it's the same thing with the females of the seeds, right, they come from the same mother and father, but each one grows different. You don't want to grow nine times out of team. You don't want to grow the one that looked like me, not him. You went there that viola.

I just felt like crippy. To be honest, you just love Miami. He just loved anything. Come out with crippy. Wait for it, I'm gonna come out with it again, crippy, crippy. But then, what's what's the league going to do? Nothing he got to do with my crippy, crippy, cripp What do you think? Hazes? Jada Kisses the last two people on earth that smoke hazes. So let me ask what's the real is the real haze? Where was that at? Sid?

You get it only New York? I like your questions, sir, Yes, sir, I'm trying to figure that out, Edie, that's a million out of seed. Like, did you imagine if you had a license to sell Hayes in New York? Leave? I'll be honest, but they don't got the nineteen double, you know, they don't got that Haye. But but but let's be clear. Creepy is Hayes. It's Hays little cousins mix, It's Hayes, little cousin. I look at us about it's o G. It's that's true. At one point they call you remember

my preppy was very specific for the orange chairs. Look at you, CLEI brain you know, man, listen. I don't know if y'all know. Our show is about giving people their flowers while they're here. Thank you all so much for joining us, Thank you'all so much for coming out here. You want to big y'all up, you know, for everything you're doing, because that's what this show is about. It

it's just bigging other people. It didn't take anything away from me to pick up what your brothers are doing, to pick up what's going on, James Cruise, thank you for coming out the Viola team, thank you for coming out big, Thank you for coming out my g post for uh yeah man, so thank us. So let's take some pictures, do some drops and the prophet y'all told you my posts give me like when I read the right.

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