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Would it good? Be? Hopeully? Is this? It's your boy in O R? What up is d J e FN and his Drink Champs motherfucker would make up? No? Not black? You know uh? In. I like to pay attention to rollouts. I'd like to pay attention to record labels. I'd like to pay attention to support because a lot of times it's just not there. There's a lot of times the artists are so big that they don't care about the support, or sometimes just the artist is just not having the support.
This brother that I'm looking at to the left of me right now. I got calls from rock Nation, I got calls from everyone when he wrote, when he rolls out of album, like you can tell he's a good peak person because people want to work for him, People want to come to the occasion for him. I haven't seen that in years. Like, you know, people really funk with you. You're really a legend. You've got so many records, so many dope records. We went through the playlist. He
talks about drugs a lot. It's the guy's a remarkable guy and out kicking asses. Two thousand and five, still here. In two thousand twenty one, I personally called jay Z and I said, I got Belly. He said, Belly's a good guy. And in case you don't want to funk, we talked about We're talking about the impeccable motherfucking Now. I want to I want to be either way what I just said, because you know, I've been out since nine seven and me, I'm personally a fan of the
major label. I me and you have this me and my Barden to have this discussions all the time. He's an independent prick. I'm a major asshole, and I just say be independent to take advantage of the major That's what I'm saying. Strong and depends say the fun major. I say that because I love the check. I love the big check. But what I'm trying to tell you is, in this past five years, we became from just a hip hop show to this is actually a rollout now.
Like the artists actually come to here because they know we can help, you know, sell they record. But this is the first time I've seen a full court press for artists where they was like, yo, belly here, belly here, Like I was really impressed. How many people want to see you with Do you know that sometimes it's hard to lose sight of it, man, it is, But I don't know, man, I I know for me, I've been in the same click right in the same circle of
people for twenty plus years. Brother cash with me, you know, like my many like my whole click of people that I came up with. I've been around for twenty years. You know. It's very seldom that people have the support that you have, Like it's very It's a blessing man, Like to me, I'll tell you, the most important thing
for me is just to sleep at night. I want to go to sleep comfortable, you know, And like I've seen both sides of the coin in this industry and I've seen what like a dirty motherfucker cut and I've seen with somebody that holds it down and really does what he's supposed to do, could be you know what I mean, And my example was clear, you know what I mean from from day one. But I sleep good at night. Man, I know, I know. I never did nothing dirty to nobody. I never funck nobody, over robbed nobody.
Every every business deal we ever did was clean. I seen that perfect spill. Like listen, think I don't know, like, yeah that was that was that was perfect ad lit No, But yeah, I think I think, you know, it comes down to that. It comes down I want to go to sleep at night and not having a fight demons, not having a tossing turn, you know what I mean. I go to sleep comfortable. And that's the biggest blessing for me. Now. No. One of the things is the oh eel xo. Yeah, it was like a gang together
at one point, is that true? I mean, like, you know, we we all came from the same city. Everybody had the same goals all that, you know what I mean, shout out Ohio, you know x so is you know, it's its own thing. It's it's it's its own family, it's own click, you know what I mean. And you know it's crazy that two clicks came out from the city and did that. What is that? What he's okay
for the Ohio? Yeah, Drake Obio weekend XL. Yes, sir, you're getting a lot of So how did how did I describe a person who has never been to Canada, who doesn't know you got a story? Describe? How did how did what is the affiliation? Y'all coming up? Like you knew Drake before he was on. I mean we all cons a small place, you know what I mean, especially when it came to hip hop entertainment, you know,
doing the things we were doing. It was like you even more in Toronto as a city, Toronto, Ottawa, like you're gonna see each other, Montreal, even people from Vancouver, like we're gonn see each other because it's one of my favorite places on Vancouver's Yeah me too, absolutely. So, Like like when you look at like eight Mile movie, you see eminem like coming up with what's it similar to? Like that in Canada on what you guys are or No?
I mean I think for me, my story was kind of like that because that's like when I came out, I can't battle for ship no more. But when I was a kid, like, I was unstoppable. I mean, I just wanted to eat the competition, you know what I mean. So that's how it came on. Really the rap scene in Ottawa was I was battling people. What's the specific spot that you come from, like the neighborhood and Ottawa south side? South side Ottawa, man, you know what I mean,
the south side of the city. That's wow. Yeah, it wasn't good. I'm okay, cool. I don't know what that is because special, that's that's wine from now, because I know how this is gonna get pass keeping. I'm starting, like you know, so going through your music now. But way I want to ask, like what artists Now you're in Ottawa, you're coming up Who's who are you looking up to an Ottawa? Is there's someone in Outiwa that's
already popping Toronto? No, like, but like, you know, all due respect to what those guys did you know what I mean for that Socrates, but for me that that wasn't that wasn't my land. Was in my tone or your era and wasn't my tone? Like like the first rap album that I ever bought. I feel like I took my mom to a spot called HMV in the mall and there was a baby on the cover. It was ready to Die. The only reason she bought it because there was a baby on the cover. I was,
I was, I was ten years old. But that's that's the stuff to raise me. And then you know, going from Big of course to Pun. People know, puns one of my biggest inspirations. So no one locally was there was no one locally that was really like inspiring not to me. To me, it just wasn't It just wasn't that Like it was dudes making noise in a different lane. Like at that point, Canada didn't get that lane yet. We didn't have that, you know what I mean. We
had like conscious type rappers. We had you know, like nature type of rappers, like rapping about nature and ship, Like we didn't have literally rapping like it was just it was just like really PG type ship and I feel like, you know, we we we we we flipped that on its head because like when we came, I was trying to emulate j Shy, emulate Big and Pun, you know, like so so that's how my sound ended up being what it was like. This is like a room where they're saying that Canada people are too nice?
Do you hate that room? No? I think I think being nice is great. Okay, when you should be nice, you should be nice, you should be a dick? What do you want people to be? No? No, when you should be me put you on on. Let me put you on, bro. Canadians could fucking fight. They could fight has to go after the police didn't have guns at one point. As long as long as you're not, let you know that they can fucking you up. As long
as you're nice, they're gonna be nice. Bro. You know, you go down the other road somebody and you know, the nicest people be the worst people, because that's Canadians, you know. Now in Canada right now, they're saying that in order for you guys to go to another county like like go to you guys got a quarantine? Is that why everyone from Canada is in l A and in Miami right now. I've lived in l A for like six years. Wow, So you ain't even dealing with it.
But did you hear about that? Canada got family in Canada? Boyes? Frames he got caught out here. Uh. Uh my boy Aaron um amand he got caught in Vegas. They just didn't want to go back to Canada because they were making a quarantine. You think Canadas are strict of government than in the US. I don't think it's Uh, it's more strict. I think. I think, uh, they get involved with with with with certain ship. Uh, probably more than
the social programs. You know what I mean. I say that, you know, like they they they really be in people's business, sometimes too much, but at the same time as you know, the best place I've ever lived in terms of you know, the government actually taking care of their people and they keep a fault. So. Um, you know me going through your music, Uh, it's heavy drug based. I love cocaine
stories like me personally, and I love Battorina stories. If you really didn't ballerina, don't be a strip of baby. I love those stories. You know when you know you just wanted me to say it, but I want, like I'm when I'm going through it, I'm saying, Wow, this this is very don't ballarina and cocaine music? So is this something you you you made consciously? Oh, it's just something that you. You just flow because I didn't record with you, and I ain't gonna lie. A lot of
people say, how fast with the Wayne work. I gotta give you that. Like I seen you write a verse like this, thank you? So remember that? Ye so um? Is that something you do consciously? Like when you when you're making music, are you targeted that certain audience? Well, look for me, I've always been somebody to like, I advocate for the right type of drug usage, you know what I'm saying. Since I was since since like I was putting it in wraps and do and do and do.
That's the first time I heard that ever came for the right of and like and like dudes in the hood would be like and like that that's junkie ship. Like that's how long I've been putting drugship in my wraps, so before the ship was cool and all that. But why I say that is because it's like, you know, it comes down to what I've seen where I live, what I experienced, you know what I mean a lot of times I was going through things that I felt
like people were scared to talk about. So I was like, I'm gonna talk about it, you know, And and that's how that ship came about really well. Now someone asked me to ask you do you feel underrated and how and if you do feel that, how does it feel like? I mean, I've said this before, but like to me, if if, if the underrated conversation comes up, so you gotta put a lot of the blame on yourself, you know, like being underrated it is to me, it's it's like
I should have did more. I could have did more, you know, And I know there was nice that I could have did more, you know what I mean, But at the end of the day, I just I lived off of what I lived off of my I loved my cult base and the people that I had and all that. It kept me in a certain place to comfort. But um, yeah, like I don't think I don't think that's on you. Um I think there's plenty of artists
that have the status and they're still underrated. But I think that's dope that he would want to own up to the idea. No, No, he's right there. My therapist says, this is terrible. It's a terrible idea to blame yourself everything. But something that sometimes this is sure that someone doesn't do enough and they think they deserve more than than they actually do. Sometimes that's true. You know what's weird
about you? You know everyone's favorite artists, favorite artists, and I just want people to like, like I like, everyone don't get as approved. You know everyone some of these guys gonna treat White Star just just just what happened, you know what. I'm sad, but you as approved like like like they would literally one of the hash yeah funk with Belly like that, like he don't do that
with every artist like this. This is this is a unique situation that you're in, like you're the top go the one is to go to saying I think he's a goal weird. That's an ill problem to have. Yeah, no, that's that's insane. Lawyers that whatever something do Your weather man just asked me said he said, um um my home girl acts that that like the under rated things. That's the reason why I asked you that is because
you know, is that enough for you? When when you say the best of the game thinks I'm the best, it's that's enough or you feel like that let's go first ship. That's definitely one of those Buckelest moments. He's yeah, that that that to me, uh, like writing raps and ship like that, like no joke, bro, Like I would really pretend like I was going to hand it in
and have Hope graded, you know what I mean. That's really when I was trying to be, like I'm gonna show my mother fucker I could write these bars, you know, like I would really feel like Big was sitting across from me getting ready to grade my paper, you know. And that's that's like the the standard I was trying to keep every single time I wrote some ship, you know what I mean. So it was lines that like I knew Hope was going to react to. And we got in the studio and I played him this album
and I knew. I was like, as soon as this line hits, no, he's gonna it's gonna be some kind of reaction, you know. And as soon as I said the line, he turned around and looked at me. And now it's like for me, that was like validation, yeah, you know what I mean, Like I know that should paid off. Like I never allowed myself to have like fillers and all this type of ship. I wanted ship to be, you know, on point every line to get guys like home to appreciate and be like, yo, yeah,
Belly's dope, you know. And one thing about you, it was like when you collab with somebody, you actually make the record dope, like some people collab with people just because they're hot. Like you know, you can throw a young dog or anything. He's hot. You're gonna throw French wantan or anything at a certain point he's hot. I feel like you distinctively make a dope record and then think about the feature after and my correct absolutely Okay,
I don't know, I don't come on. I know that I know that you got real love for hip hop because most people, like I said, even I got caught in that ship, even I got caught in you know what, little Wayne is down the block. Let me make a record just for a little Wayne, when that's not what I should have did. I should have, you know, made the record for me and figured it out, you know later. So what makes you like be so passionate and putting
the record together like that? A lot of times, bro, I'll start a record and like like, I love it for myself and the second VERSI start and then I hear somebody and that something like it stops me from you even wanting to write the second verse like no, this person has to be on it, like I hear the whatever fucking voices in my head or tell them yourself producing it, you know, like yeah, like it really to me if it doesn't match that person's whole kind
of all setting ship, like I won't even you know what I mean. It's not like I need you on the single. It's about to be my best single, so let's put you on just like it's got a match. What the fun you do to? You know what I mean? And so like I let I let the song tell me a lot of times, you know what I mean. Has anybody ever front on you? You mean, like like you asked for a feature and they don't want to
do the feature? Damn everybody, Come on, let let's get to the story we got there, honestly, like real, honestly, honestly, I would love like look, I'm not someone who holds back. I would love to be like yo, this person. I just I don't hold grudges number one, So I just forget about that. I don't hold grudge, just need it. But I'm petty thought it's kind of the same thing, you know, but but but it's kind of the same
Nuns just more. Let's let's ask back. It's a little worse than petty because grudgs just like, yeah, speaking about it, it coming back to me. I mention just makes you bitter. Grudge you know, that's just bitter. I don't want to be bitter, you know what I mean? What I mean like if anyone you who was let down, like you ever tried to do a record with like Drake or Nas or somebody and like, you know, no matter of fact, shoutout to Nas Nas on the album. Yeah yeah, hello
big legend. Oh yeah, alright, I guess my kids ordered fool yeah letter. Sorry, all right, thank you, thank you, thank make him noose form wherever that was you Wait a minute, Wait a minute, Wait a minute? Is that that? Is that a bucket? Listen? Eyes? Hell? Yeah, so I've just happened. Come on, um man, I think I've always been a fan of NAS. I've always vote you know, like who the fun isn't a fan of NS, you know? But um when I put out Mumble Rap the album, I thought it was just a single. I did not
realize it was a whole album. When when I put it out, he actually I'm thinking going right back into that now he came to he came to the crib that I had at the time, and then see you know, and then you know, okay, that's the valley it to you. And then he uh he pulled up man listened to the whole album, gave me his take like this are was this new album? No, so this is back in my crap. So we haven't worked together. Um uh Me and Abel did a song together the weekend. Um did
you go on the weekend? Abel? Yeah, that's that's his real name. We're not Pravd. It's like, we don't know, we don't know what to tell you. Was somebody that was a real fly, he said, Abel, and he would think my face, he said he hadn't know what. I don't want to talk about like that, like that's when people call eminem Mark. I was like, I don't know this guy called Marshall's you got you got? Like I like just going go ahead, gotta drawing with Abel? Um
yeah you got it? Um? Yeah. So so it was the same type of ship, like it's like a deep record, dope record. You know, it's it's called it's called died for It. You know what I mean so same ship. I like, I heard nas on it and Weekend is on this record. Yeah, you're cheating now, I like to cheating always see you envisioned Naws on it and then you get Naws on it. Yeah that was that was see I said of the video. Let me shown out
to cash. Let me just tell you something. I know the Weekend is your homie, right me and you, I got a relationship, but I've never really asked you about the Weekend or whatever. Y'all, for lack of a better term, somewhat the best of both worlds. Like how J and them? I don't know what they call this guy, just our county bro. I didn't say that, by the way, right, but but you you understand what I'm saying. Prior to you know, the beat happening with them, their chemistry was really, really,
really good. The thing about it is, I want to ask you too, because just because you're in the same camp doesn't mean to make a great record together. How is that like working with him after all these years? And no, he doesn't really work with a lot of people. I don't see features for the Weekend, But how is it to still make these dope records with with with your homie that you you knew forever and I'm ready for some water melons. Rock let's go, let's go. I'll
take a shot. That's don't talking over you know. How is it like like making And I'm assuming every time you'll get together so here I mean for me, I'll be dead honest with you man, just like, first of all, he don't miss. So if we get on the studio we're working on something, I'm like, I already got that chip on my shoulder, like he's already gonna take it
somewhere where it's not gonna miss. So you know, on other records, I feel like, you know, I carry this and if if Abe's getting on the record, is his fucking record, Like that's just the way it goes, you know what I mean. So when we work every single time, it's like I really trust his ear and and and and where he won to go over there. And at the same time, it's like we make a cohesive to what I'm working on in the team that I'm working on, and that works every time. Like we don't try to
force ship. We've never been like, Yo, the album's almost done, bro, I need a feature from you, Like it's never been like that. It's just been like, oh ship, that's hard, hold on, let's build this, let's do that, you know what I mean. So it's always like organic. It's not for real. So it's always like organic, like real ship that comes from nothing and then he comes that, you know. So let me ask you. God tells you you got one feature, but the rest of your life it's one
feature you could have. God told him this, God this, God text him, who's the one feature? Well, first of all, we know he can't play me. If God are saying it at that point, just oh no, no, no, alive alive for now. Like any any genre, any genre, you got one feature? Honestly, man, I want I want my whole feature, bro Ther whole feature. Okay, okay, I saw that coming. Let me VERSU question. God says you got one feature for this is the next couple hit you
a couple of one of these? Drake or Weekend. Come on, y'all, you gotta be a drum rolls. No, no, drum rolls weekend. Yeah, that's that's give you the shot Shoe solo slo there have you ever worked with Drake though? Yeah? We take damn all right, when when she had that on the playlist. I'm looking at you and you laughing. That ship you got, you gotta go to like the old like like two thousand eight stripper playlists. Okay, okay, okay, so we got the NAS features. What else? Who else should we trying
to get to complete? You said, jay Z, you know we said that for sure on dright thwo thousand you know it was a Belly and Andre three thousand tracks. Sound like, man, like, that's that's really bucketless ship. I would love to do that, all right, that's probably it. Like I worked with Wayne, that was one of mine production man. I'm just mad me and Dre and worked together thus far, like at this point you know what
I mean? But I know the universe is gonna bring it together because they said you wrote a lot of records, a lot of R and B records and all type of ship you how did you get into that like goes right and that ship like that? Um ship? Man? Just I love to write sometimes I write ship and just I just know it's not for me. But he
was writing R and B as well. Yeah, I mean, look man, like rap, you take you take some hard, sad, somber rap versus and get somebody to sing him and that shot his R and B. I've seen for real do that. I was just amazed. Like I walked in the studio. He just made a record for somebody the else right in front of me, and I was just like, he's incredible, man, He's something else. Yea, Farrell is incredible,
He's something else. Who's your favorite producer? Man? I would have to say, Yeah, it's it's like, you know, I come from that era of like you know, Timbo, Pharrell Dre. I asked this question again. God asked you you got one beat? Not boy Wonder. I gotta throw a boy Wonder and in the mix of that, so God asked you got one beat? What produce are you going with just one for the rest of your life? Metro woman? I did not. I did not. I've seen you and
the AVCT got Metro Boup girls together. I didn't. And he's just versatile. You can tell Metro to do anything. You can do it Metro boom. This is your trying to get your flowers. But what about better life? Okay, get a lot of artists? Yeah, who're going with? Um? God? God? Actually, Biggie, Yeah, I thought you just said, Bob Molly, Yeah, I love about but look big Big to me is a different
type of thing, you know what I mean? Like when I was was the first album you said, I was learning English and listening ready to die at the same time, like I was. You know, what was your first language? Arabic? Yeah? Yeah, So being that we were over there, uh, a friend of mine the other day um dm me it was like, oh, can you post this? And it was something about the Palestine and and the thing. And I told him I
was I wasn't privileged to the information. So I didn't want to post because I'm not I'm not that intelligent. I don't want to get into an argument or a statement that I don't really know about, So I skipped on posting it. But I didn't. I don't understand what's happening you. When I Google you, it says you're Palestinian, and I actually says was born in Palestine. Can you explain to us, like a person that's green and a square like me, can you explain to us what is
going on out there? Because we don't. I don't. I don't really know. All I see is propaganda. I keep it, I keep as simple as as simple as it could be. It's you know, it's complex. But um, first of all, they try to make it a people think. It's not a people think. You know what I mean, it's not a Jewish Muslim thing. It's not a religious thing either. It's not none of that. You know, there's there's Christian Palestinians.
Jesus was born in Palestine. Let's not forget you know, there's a lot of it's a big community of Christian Palestinians to stand side by side with Muslim Palestinians were one of the only countries that have in the Middle East that have Christian Muslim unity amongst each other. Right, So it's not about religion. What it comes down to is a brutal right wing government that has the fourth most powerful military world, that has weapons that you know,
nuclear weapons, they could destroy damn near anybody. Right. They received four billion dollars of funding every single year from New YUS and not we're not talking aid. Oh here you go build some schools. This is military funding four billion a year, right, And when it's framed in the media, it's framed was like, oh, we're about to watch a fight, but we're not watching this, there's not it's not a skirmish. It's not a war, right, because you've got David, You've
got Goliathe historically. Right. The irony is now it's like flip right, David is the new Goliathe. Alright, We're looking at a superpower going up against people that are living in an open air prisons specific guy. Yeah, because it's it's it's it's cornered in the in the displacement of people. Right, So when you talk about all these people are losing their homes, the reason this is happening is because of illegal settlements. So this is this isn't just me telling you, hey,
this is an illegal settlement. This is the u N Resolutions. This is every country that's part of the u N except for Britain, Israel in the US agreeing with the fact that all these settlements are illegal. So it's not to me. It's not the way the media frames it. And you know, the media is always gonna frame it the way the interest is going to tell them to
frame it. Uh, the facts of the facts, man, These are regular, everyday people fighting for their land against one of the greatest superpowers that ever existed period right, because in the media, like how you just said, they worded it like it's Muslim against Jews. So you say and you say it. Never look, man, when it comes to people, people will be people, right, It's it's the governments to put us in these positions. I remember years ago, Jewish
and Muslim women Palestine and Israeli marched together. Seventy five thousand women marched together in Palestine because of the brutality, you know, to to protest the brutality of the of the government. So the people for the most part, now you know, you got crazy motherfucker's you know, for the most part, man, people just want to live in peace. You know. I think I think it's the governments that we gotta focus on. You know, like over here we we we we were appalled when there was a super
right wing government in power. Right, everybody was yeah, right, But I don't I honestly, I don't even like to say his name. They understand that ship is like a super right wing government, you know what I mean. I can't. I can't because so so um yeah. See see I'm not privily to the information that you just said. And how much how much information you knew about no, I mean I know about it. I know about a lot of the history and and a lot of stuff. I mean,
I didn't know recently what had happened. I know that I had something to do with stuff going on in Jerusalem specifically, but you, yeah, people wouldn't saying the same thing, but I wanted. People are kind of hitting me and saying,
why college is not doing this? We look, we all know that this is a sensitive subject when it comes to when it comes to like political people, just people that are overly outspoken social media will take something you saying, run with this, but it should be bottom line, should be easy. It's it's lopsided battle and a lot of innocent people are dying, and they should just you shouldn't even have to look deeper than that, Like it should just stop, like it needs to stop, and whatever. The
political side needs to figure it out. The borders. All the crazy sister is reels on corruption charges, He's on all kinds of crazy going through courts, and then you know this man is a criminal by his own people, Like I'm sitting here telling you as a Palestinian, he's a criminal. He's being accused of being a criminal by him, by his own people. I'm not sitting here telling people, Oh, this is my bias telling you this. This man is a criminal. We need to get the criminal out of there.
We need to put somebody empower that's gonna, you know, look out for the right to everybody living in that. And he's down to the US. Right. But but I think what Noraich trying to say is for someone who might not know the different political dynamics, the history and this, and that, we've got to make it simpler for someone to be like outspoken and be like, what's wrong about the situation? Right? Stop sucking bombing Gaza atly know what
I'm saying, Stop bombing residential areas. Absolutely, and and and let's let's approach it from that first, for the for the layman who doesn't know even his name. You know, I'm saying, I don't know about the settlements, don't know
about the wars. The energized energized everybody here was the fact that they saw somebody that looked like a dictator on TV in America, and it energized the population because people were like, this isn't what this isn't about, Like this country is not about this, right, I come from a place where there are dictators in our region, Like on, what's this guy? Looks like them? You know what I mean?
That that was kind of It was kind of heartbreaking too, because the here goes my friend, I don't and I actually don't know what side he's are who the person? Yeah, I actually don't know what side he's on. He just said can you post this? And there's someone like it's like a child getting like shot at I'm like, hold on, I cannot post this, like I know what side, no matter what side, And I'm like, oh no, no, no,
no no, and he's like nah, you know. And then I felt like he was arguing because he started posting Other celebrities posted Kyrie Urban, So he hit me and said, Kyrie is a real one. So what are you going to say? Man? What are you Let's get to the point, bro, what are you trying to say that? Because because Kyrie posted, I'm saying Kyrie is smarter than me. I'm willing. I'm wanted to tell you as a man, when I'm not knowing about something, I'm going to shut the funk up
until I get the right information. Because you know what I'm saying, and it was. It was real, but I felt his passion. That's the reason why I'm asking you. I felt this passion and I do not know what's going on. Like that's the one thing for short. Two things for certain is I'm hearing business skirts, but I don't know you being Palestinian. This is like to me, you're an expert on this, you know what I'm saying,
because I'm not. I know, but but your expert, right, I know, like I know as much as I know. There's people that can speak on this so much better than I can and really explain the details of everything's going on. But really, like I said, man, it's like there's kids dying, and there some kids dying. Uh, there's like an advanced military killing these kids that you gotta stop, no matter what you don't, no matter what the conversation is, there shouldn't be kids dying for against to Palestin. Since
you've been Belly not a show, Yeah, we gotta. Honestly, I plan, I plan, I want to film. I want to do coming Home there. I wanted to go to Israel and to Palestine, but they told me I couldn't go. In the same film. They said you can't go to Israel and then crossover or vice versa, because they said it's too dangerous at that point if they see you go from one side to the other, like if I go I need to go for one trip to be just to Palestine and they come back and then it's
just to Israel. They said, it's too dangerous if you do it like back and forth, because they'll think you're trying to do something. They'll just think you're filming something. You know, in Jerusalem, and and you know a lot of places within Palestine. You know, it was all Palestine. And although that was Palestine as reel as the Palestinians can live side by side and then they can coincide and they can live in peace and all that. Like I said, it just it starts with equal rights and
and and just just human rights. Man, just just I mean, the same thing happened with everything going on in Colombia. People were hitting us up. Yah, why aren't you talking about we need to do more information as well? Right? Did we ask fat you about that? Yeah? We said, were talking about but it's better to do that than to speak on something that you said you don't know. Yeah, should Yeah, I've never been political I've never really I
followed the don't work with religion and politics rule. You know what I mean, Like, I don't, I don't really do that. But at the same token, I'm not blind, you know what I'm saying, Like, if I see some ship, you know what happening with police brutality and all this other ship, I'll say something. But that's just not my political field. You know what I'm saying. I'm gonna always say something. I know what my skin is, trust me.
But that's just we have my songs, we have to make about, we have to treat without knowing it seems like you're trying to be in some viral moment ship to just go with the crowd, and I don't know Michael Jordan's ship, and Michael Jordan's would have worried the conversation. No, no, I'm not avoiding the conversation. I'm telling you I'm not that smart. I'm telling I'm being real. You understand what I'm saying. I'm being real about it, like people are
not being real. People are saying it's like, let's keep it going, this is this, this is great got politically, but but but I'll be honest with you bro, like you know, whatever you choose to do as a man, and like you said, like you don't know abody, you don't want to speak on it. It's issues to me, they're not political issues, just like human lives becoming in the mix. And you know that there's like that um you know, like that force of power, like like that
there's an oppression going on. It's like it's no longer a political thing to speak on. It now becomes just being a fucking human obviously. And you know, you you educated yourself a little bit about the situation and you say what you want to say. But I never look at it like it's political. I don't speak on ship political. If it's political, like it has to do with politics of someone getting elected, you're not gonna hear me speak.
But if people are in the mix and there's some ship going on, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say my piece, why why you never got political? This? Fuck them? This fun them honestly, Like like there's a there's a few politicians that that I like, But to me, it's like fun everybody. When you think you like them, they always disappointed. Yeah, but it's exactly you know, I don't I don't subscribe
to either side, like I don't. I don't know that man like all that politics should I think at the end of the day, everybody can agree with kids shouldn't be dying in these situations, and that's not the story. I don't know how you're gonna move on. We drinking, do say? We drink it? Motherfucking a spade, And my partner has the fathers drink in the world. Right now, my mama, wanna you ever had my own? Wanna? Yeah? How long you been married? Part of me? You're married right? Okay?
Only like four years? Bo years? Okay for six years ago, six years ago? This wo been right, Mama wanamajuana in the Dominican party, you took down the Midican bitch before. I mean, not the way you put it you preak. Just I just feel like I just feel like you calling everyone left. I'm gonna love you. Don't gotta stay diving yourself, but I want to try. Let's go, Mr Lena, I'm gonna come of Mama Wanama, I'm gonna sucker. I'm sticking to my so and we got some great beers
here today. We got looked. I think the next door neighbors made us a beer. Maybe we just want the coming public crazy. He wasn't even around you weren't even hoping this for me. I'm I'm gonna drink the Spanish Marie drawing right here, shout. I gave myself way too much, but shot. So this is this is mama wa. Yeah, it's a little mama water. I'm but this is phone. I want you know this one's all this coming me is our other Homi. They came people, they stopped, they
stopped selling. Okay, cool and stop sending this bottle. So hold me from thee he said, getten give him. Yeah, come on, you're do it's gotta be portant by just just a little sum. I just want to I just want your belly. We don't know if you you can get drunk and do VOOTI with that. At the same way, our show is about giving people that's kind of you what you did. Our shows about giving people the flowers while they're here. And we want to tell you how
amazing you are into your face. We want to tell you how much we appreciate you, how you you know, hold down hip hop you you wholeheartedly, don't compromise you exactly who you say you are on the record, that off the record, and I can attest to that. I funk with you, Prink Champs funk with you, and we want to salute you to your face. And what do I have to Let me get my way, Let me get busy here. Let me say this bro. Growing up in that neighborhood, it was, it was a lot of immigrants.
And I promised you when you were screaming iraq It we had all the Arabs. Let's chew up. I actually bet I met uh a son of like I like, I like like the president of one of them, and they all came into me thought I was from Iraq It really thought I was. I was like, no, man, that's just my neighborhood. The president of an Arab country,
Yes I did. It's actually the first time I felt racist against my own people, because because I thought the person that was was coming to meet me would look like light skinned, and it was it was he was darker than me. And I was like, oh, ships like yeah, like you know, that's the reason why latinos I wasn't Arab, Like we're all like we all come in the same
color of queen and she's like that. If you blind for me and just put me in one of those countries, I might think I was put to Puerto Rico until I heard it speak. Was I hate to speak. I'm like, okay, but you don't speak. We all it's hold a lot of bit point. We can family, you know what I'm saying, Like real ship, real ship. So you want to come in, you want to come, and we never heard you talk. Come on, bro, come on, come on, okay, come on,
let's come. You want to come cash Okay, alright, cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool cool, no problem. All right, let's get into it. Man. This is this is this is this is great. We were all over the place we're doing. You're not drinking this. You don't drink this? You want you got another wine? I don't know what that is. Looks very great. Hell no, say guys, So we got through the O b oh, we got
to all that now. But I saw something that you was into punk music before, not really punk, like I was into like Nirvana and stuff like that girl, not necessarily punk. Yeah, like I had like a big mix of different music. You know what's going on him? You think that's indicative to Canada. I feel like a lot of artists have come out of Canada a little bit more eclectic than because because the radio has never played ship in terms of rap, we have to go find
the rap ship. You know. It was always just the alternative or like rock or whatever it was on the radio and then pop eventually, but rap was just nowhere to be found, Like we had to put that ship on the radio. Wow. But you know it's crazy about that because Canada is actually close to then to New York. The Miami is to New York. Well, I mean a side of Canada, not the whole of Canada. Toronto. We're
going to Toronto. It taking forty five minutes on the flight. Yeah, So you would you would think like the New York influence would be more heavier. Was the New York influence heavy even back then? I think I think Toronto got its own like heartbeat, you know what I mean, You got its own thing. I think a lot of like a lot of Caribbean influence exactly. It's like a melting a lot of Haitians. It's just a lot of It's
a melting pot. Man. So I think all of that makes Canadian culture what it is you know, I ain't got a lot on how was it um? I think it was Toronto and a white man just came out. I forget what. I think it was the under trained or something. He just came out. So let me get a light and I gave him a light and he lit up blood. It was like a sixty five year old white man. I said, I love Canada, man, like I said, you know, I just walked around. I remember Canada has been ahead for a while. Was a country
was at it was a lie it was. It was a good PR campaign. The legalization. It was a PR campaign. Bro. This new one, yeah, this new one is real. N what I mean like law like right now, like it just happened with criminalized right back in the day when they decriminalized that. My brother went to jail on a grammar weed bro, one gram like it wasn't playing and just just say your brother Mohammed, no, no, my brother.
I mean I heard it in your rock. He said they moved up my brother Mohammed in head and something like that. As that's my older brother. Come on pay attention with godam no point, I said, I said, they're trying to pay Mohammed man if you're gonna getting back in the States. Got there, so wow, so Willie, because I did one time. I don't forget where it was
Vancouver or Montreal. That's when I smoked cigarette. Still. I had came outside and I smoked a cigarette and I lit a blunt and the police was right there and I basically almost ran and they just laughed at at me. It's like, where are you from America? Yeah, that's the answer that. Yeah, yeah, you gotta relax, h Yeah, but yeah, Canada was to me a liberal place. Look when it came to marijuana. Look it is a little more loose. First of all, yes it did. I didn't advance city,
that's right. And did the cop did actually laughed at me. It's right, you're right, you are points. I'm sorry, Vancouver cigaret. I'm gonna give it to the men are always they were always ahead of the game. We was out there. City. You can't smoke a joint like now maybe back then you couldn't smoke a joint like Ottawa. A cop, no way, you're going to jail, bro like and I was. I would come down here and hear all this ship about Yo,
it's legal. You guys can just smoke. And I was like, I don't know what the fun type of pr campaign they're running, but this isn't it's not real. And in Canada also, it's like a strictest system to get into. Like are they as strict on Canadians as they is? We have a case they go through like we go through go through. So are they strict on Canadians? I didn't know that. I thought you have a d Y in Canada, you can't cross the border. They won't let you into the States with a d I don't drive.
Maybe that's real duds kind of serious. That's kind of like a felony here right, well yeah, nobody, just what are you talking about? Just a happy over here? Just d just drunk, just drunk driving, like a criminal charge in Canada. So once you have like a criminal charge on your record, you can't cross the Borden from them.
You're telling from Canada here or from Canada to the States. Yeah, and you you like living in America more than Canada, to be careful now, it's it's not it's not what I like more, it's just it's just where I'm at in my life. I feel like I conquered what I needed to conquer in Canada. I did what I needed to do and then you know, next step, I love canadon on not for real, I love Canada, bro. I always tell people that, you know, it was it was one of the most important parts of my life. But
that's what it was. It was like a part of my life. You know. Let me stop. I'm gonna say something. We gott to revisit The Mumble. But before we do, we gotta shout out organic food Kings, Vegan. Sometimes you gotta eat vegan. Sometimes we go to organic food Kings. My man, he got the big boy rolling on right now. He had doing it, giving you, giving us some great great carols. You got food for you there, moving for
you there, great guy too, by the way. Yeah, you gotta go check him out the food cakes dot com right on Instagram or getting food case. Make sure you'll go get it. Man, Andre to be thousand, eat there and all that. Let's just do it. Let's just throw that out there. Let's it happened. I said it. I said it. It's the Mumble because we're talking about the Scarrolls. And then you said that that's the name of the album, right, Yes,
so me and ian fam. He didn't understand at one point that I said, Yo, there is an actual I still don't believe it. Don't say I didn't understand. I still don't believe it. I gotta hear what he's gotta say now that this is great because I have no idea what That's what I'm saying. I have no idea what him. Yeah, so at one point I told you that's a genre of music and say, okay, well it's a section of rap. Mumble wrap is actually a section of And he said he couldn't believe that people actually
claimed mumble rap. And I said, like, I'm telling him, like, yo, you bugging out. They're actually claiming it. You are. But but before you add so, I gotta give my point. It's mumble rap. God Fama. All I'm saying is is I can't imagine that somebody came out and said I am a mumble like I'm talking about maybe after the fact it got popular with trending people then young kids, Yeah, I mumble rap. I'm talking about like the first iteration
of it. The guys that made it. I can't imagine that the MC was like I am a mumble wrap. But it wasn't an MC or an artist at that chim were almost none. Look to me, I love all this ship by the way, right, I'm friends with a lot of young guys making friends and all that. Like, I love all this ship everything out of space for me. That's that's how I look at it, right, Like we've been able to grow into something that can fit into any space now, you know. But you know, the mumble
rap ship is a feeling. It survibe. I mean, that's that's that's that's that's really all it is. Like, you know, there's there's there's types of music that's considered uh fucking you know, four thousand dollars a ticket to go sit down and watch the ship, and all you get is vibes all night. You're not getting concepts and this, that and third, you know what I mean. So I feel like that's cool, Like that that vibe section is cool.
You know what It's like. It's like when you go watch John Wick, right, You're not You're not going in to watch a Scorsese movie. You know you're going to watch John Wick. It's like, you know, you're gonna get this action film. You know what it's gonna do to you? In terms of how to makes you feel right. But you know you're not going to watch like a film. Let me make another held hold on, let me make let me make another comparison to maybe maybe it makes
more sense. I don't think the first artists that we're talking hardcore ship called themselves gangster rappers. The industry said that's gangster rap. The just it was just rhyming. When you say, I agree with that's what I mean. I don't think of among the rapper a rapper that you
might call. Okay, I do. Let me bring it out back then when when it was labeled gangster rap, gamester rapper didn't know those gigs wrappers eight months later, the mumble rappers knew they was mumble rappers eight minutes later. And that's that's what we're debating. Yes, actually I'm debating. I don't know. I don't believe that. I don't I look, I don't know if this is how it happened. But just just in my opinions, the mumble history can you
mumble it from great the Diary of your Name? But but but you know, I think I think the you know, the whole mumble rap thing, Like I said, man, I think it probably started with somebody talking some ship, you know, somebody not understanding what the thing was like it talking some tread and then nobody's better than this, young boys and turnings around asolutely and trolling you with nobody. That's little was the was the fourth Front eight came in.
I think little, Look, I think little. I think little Yaddy hard you don't know, you don't know know. But but but he to me, he doesn't mumble. But what I'm saying is it's like he owned it. Though that's the exactly like they tried to give him that. But it's what you're saying, it's they flipped it. They're like, I want to this it, We're gonna flip it. But I'm just saying out the gate. No one was in the studio before it. Everyone heard and be like, hey,
checked this out. I'm about to mumble this motherfucker and we're gonna call this ship mumble. I don't think that happened. I think black thought that that ship. No, No, be honest, I think you're right, but I think you're wrong. What I mean by that is I think you're right, because I don't think anyone did actually do that. But they owned this so fast, and I can I think that's dope.
But that's the way I keep saying. Yeah, but I want to give credits to these other dudes, like even look, one of the one of the hardest rappers in the world. That's why I just said what I said it right, one of the hardest rappers in the world ever mumbled on on the track first he's down and dude, you know, was that I was blacked up? Isn't that rude? Right? I believe, And that's one of the hardest rappers in the world. A vibe is a vibe, man. You can mumble it, you can sing it, can wrap it. This
is music. Well, I personally I feel little disputing good music. I think that's when we were having a trash music too. I'm just showing it out there. Do you want to trash a lot of ship? And I feel like I noticed is trash, Like I get it, like I know, but I with it because I'm I'm with the vibe. I'm with the vibe. Like if I'm in I know
I'm sounding old school right now. If I'm in Sophie Live and I'm vibing and something reul come on that I don't like, but I know the vibe and I'm looking at the young people around, and the young people was vibing. Oh, I'm not going to be the old dude in the crowd. Oh, I'm gonna go join the young people. Like did yo, y'all whatever y'all doing. See, I don't hear that at all at all. Listen, if you don't, I don't. If it ain't you put the
vibes Bob's car tail without the lights. So if you would hung around the Macking Mounts Club, you would have joined the Mickey Mounts Club. Hell yeah, we talking and singing. Yeah, I would have been like this way, it's sick. Go ahead, y'all. Yeah a person, I'm gonna go with whatever the funk I like. If I don't like that, I'm not gonna try to be relevant. If the vibe is I said, you said it, If there's somebody that likes it out there, then nobody got a fucking opinion to us their own.
Like that's it. You have to throw a hip hop and make it this far. I thought the hip hop would make it this far. Honestly I did. I did, man, Look, I put I invested my life into this as sacrifice everything. You know. It's the same story for a lot of rappers that came from that era. You know what I mean is like we you know, we we really had to sacrifice a lot to do. And I would never invested everything, not only into myself, but into this budding,
like brand new thing that was going on. I would have never did that if I didn't believe that this was gonna be, you know, the biggest thing in the world, which it is. You know. Let's let's let's talk about more of the new album. We already established that we got nads on a new album were established. We got the weekend like get We also established that's still on the record together. We also established this a video coming out. So what else about this album? We don't got nothing
else about this new album. Let's talk about this new album. Oh man, it's called see You Next Wednesday. M hmm, yeah, and we're filming this on a Wednesday. We just film this on So see you next Wednesday. I love that, I Love you got like Larry David type of type of titles with it. Are your fami of Larry David? Okay, yeah, I don't know. I won't I said so see you Next Wednesday? What then? What made you mad? That's fire? I mean, so this is crazy out of that, you know,
let's go. I'll take one with you. Come on, you want water, bellon you bring me right back to the dark side. That's wanted your you got a respect that? Um okay? You know? So you know John Landis. So John Landon did like thriller video he did, you know
he did? He didn't countless classics in the nineties, right, And he would always sneak see You Next Wednesday into his movies, So thriller when Michael Jackson is getting up walking out of the theater, you here see you Next Wednesday being whispered, right, And then in his movies he would like create these fake movies called see You Next Wednesday. It was like an Easter Egg and everything Easter Egg exactly right. And then so I read more into it.
It was basically the first script he ever wrote. He was inspired by Stanley Kubrick uh movie and those are and it was basically like a script he never made a movie he never made right. So I went through from from say mid to end until just recently went through some crazy ship, you know what I mean? And I was vocal about it, you know, to everybody and all that. But I always felt like, if I actually get to make this album, it's gonna be like the album he you know, the movie he never got to make.
Like this is gonna be my see You Next Wednesday? This, you know what I mean? And that's really where the concept started from. I just thought it was so dope and it was something he had that he just you know, it's the first thing he ever wrote. Imagine imagine the type of emotion you got towards something like that. He just never made it into a movie. So it was points that I didn't even think I was gonna make music again. I didn't even think I was gonna be able to sit down and right the way I you
know what I mean, Let's take this shot. That's that was real. That's real. Got that did so we made it. The movies made See You Next Wednesday is officially being on this album. Um Production Artists, whatever you want to share with us, Um, Young Doug is on the album again. Okay, okay, So we got um first of all to meet Doug Is. He'd been one of my favorite artists for a long time. It's my little homie. It was dope that I guess he's a little slum Yeah, clear slime originator. I listen.
I love the fact that he's continuing the legacy. I don't know if he understands the history. But I'm not broke. So I'm not mad. Had I been broken because that was my ship. I want that. In two thousand and one, I said slide, but I'm not. I'm good. I want to see the the progression of hip hop. So and I'm gonna tell you something. I'm sliding ship. Slide you got, you got, you can have to slide. I don't mind. I just want you to know your history, to know
where it came from. It's not a game ship. It's not none of that and or even that in the in the game in two thousand and one. I don't believe in care you know what I mean, But I respect I haven't. I've met him one time. I met him one time in New York, the legend. But I'll tell you quickly, quickly before because we'll get back into the album. I'll tell you this man like as much as Doug to me, I'm a fan of the music. I think just someone that works with melodies and ship
like that. I think he's wanna dope. He's incredible. I'll tell you it's doper. That's what he's been able to do in terms of putting people around him on and being doing what Gunna is unbelieved and just being able to uplift everybody around him. To me, that's like the clear sign of somebody that this this guy greatness already and Dustin from a great I never got mad at him.
Let me tell you some ship you know, even find everyone when they was using it, they had to come and see me and like not bow down to me or nothing like that, because that's not who I am. I'm a good person and myself when I was playing around earlier. But that's why I never took in personally, Like when he kept the Slime ship going and and and he didn't, he didn't. I've met him. I was like, you know, I'm the original to slip. He was like,
and I can tell he didn't. He didn't really know what I was saying because he was at the club. You know what I'm saying. You know I'm famous too, so I'm like, all right, cool. And I looked like I said, all right, cool, I just let it go and I never brought it up, and I actually I'm honored. I'm honored that he's keeping something that I started, definitely continuing going. Definitely. I just wish he knew was history.
And if he doesn't know what his great If he doesn't, guess what, I'm still because I'm for the for the legacy of hip hop, you know what I'm saying. For what? But he's made me a fan. And not only he's made me a fan, I'm gonna tell you what was ill was the fact that how much he loved little Wayne and how much he said that you know how Wayne kind of disappointed him when he met him, and he owned that. That to me, what's the real shot I ever seen? I don't you guys didn't see that
he was met and am over game brothers. I'll give you the kill, um wallow. And there was a million dollars with the game. And you know, obviously I support them, um, they support us. Um. So he said he said a story about him, me and Wayne and Wayne not not since acknowledging love. And the fact is not that him and Wayne his squads that he could have never said that story. They could have just left that alone. But the fact that he was vulnerable and just given I
just I just respected so much about him. But let's move on. This is called a quick time and slid. Let's do it. You can say one or the other, or you can say both. Both comes with a shot. Yeah, are you ready? You're taking the shot? Get the shot ready for I'm gonna get taking the shot on top and you would take whatever shot you want you don't want, okay, but I believe me know what you meant me know
when you probably mean knowing you more? Right now, I believe you want to take a shot this first one. Ask you nas or jay Z what or you do taking the shot? Take it? Okay? Taking a jay Z? Okay? Alright, cool? NAS may not clear your person now I'll just say okay, respect or loyalty take a shot, remember shout, I take both? Okay, Steve shots, I'm gonna do a shot with you. Though you can't. I can't pick neither one of those like you can't. You can't have your question such your question.
But you know what, only a person who respects both is gonna pick both. So respect So what you want? You want? Watermerammon? Do you want watermelon or you want want Mamahanna. Both? Come on, man, which which one you want? Bro? You can do say too. I'm going on you love you are, You're gonna do some watermelon. Let's go boom. I'm gona join you. I'm gonna join you. Cheers Salo, Salo to motherfucking belly and then see this say baby, love love love Tupaca DMX. You can taking a shot.
M that's hard, man, that's hard. Made me take a shot. I'm gonna take a shot with you. It's not like I'm it's not like I'm not gonna leave you out. I don't know when we started doing that. I wasn't post to take a shot. I'm just saying, is abou friend you take I'm taking the shot with you. I'm not leaving you out there. I can't pick it's your question. It's just my majuna's bubbling. Yeah, I don't I don't know what that is. But I almost start to speak
to Spance. This is easy for you right now. This is easy for you right now. The next question next, Miami got to Roger Toronto's like, I love that would be easy for you. I love, I'm gonna just saying this. I lived in Miami for six years. I love man. Really what part of Miami? How about this? Everywhere? Every piece from Miami Shores all the way to fucking Mait it down to Kendle Candle. You lived in Canadle. Yeah. Remember he knows we had no living to many different
areas of Miami that we're living, bro. But you lived with Mr Lee, same building it alright. One time I came downstairs to his unit. He was even vanilla ice cream of garlic in it. That's that's a show. Remember that? Were you bringing it? Bro? I have no idea what you're gonna pick on this question. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold hold on? All right, nineties or two thousands? Okay, all right, you know what you gotta. I ain't gonna wait for that. I don't know what you're gonna pick
on this. Come on Forrell, Kanye West. M hmm, man, Pharrell, I love you, but definitely ain't. I feel like taking a shot from picking them wrong. All right, you're gonna get this one right. Chips are rap right off? I just did that would be a right kid. Let's just do both talking. You know that's not done. No, let me say yeah, I love Elliott Man. Let me say something,
Let me say something, shout. When we started this podcast game, if it wasn't for them, us being a competition and us going head and ahead to them, they made us better people helpless, They made us better journalists. We accepted the competition. We accepted it wholeheartedly and ilesly. It made it fense to you, brothers. Get your COVID test and get your ship back together. We need radar out here. We cannot survive and keep going. We need to see
the journalism. We love the Joe Button podcast. We love Mariy and Rory and momm again Ory. I think they set this up. I think Joe Button, you know, me being a virgo that I am, I think that they all this is a little set up. I think it's a conspiracy. I think it's let's bring up mall. Let's pick up Grory, let's pick up million dollars or a game, let's pick up uh who the black effect? Everyone man, let's pick up, let's let pick up everything just doing
their thing. Man. We we actually are proud of everybody, and we love that black media or that's not mean, that's not even categorized as a black media. We love that hip hop media. It's big up a smoke chance to got them to give me a But here's a big artist that recently that recently and we're supposed to have him next week. Pause that. I love what's going on. When Nas set a Presidents, when he did Dream Chaps, he did Drink Champs only he did like a shot
he re interview I think on tight or whatever. But that's it. You know what The crazy ship is hip hop, which we gotta start realizing we the ship like BT still picked up our Niles interview. MTV still picked up out Nos interview. But the thing is they had two d m us and ask for the funtage. So that's hip hop controling the hip hop and making hip hop
hip hop. You listening like when you come and you see us Belly and you say, I'm gonna go fun with Drink Chaps, you know that's exactly what you're supposed to do, because you know why we are you. This is the DJ. This is the guy that comes to the club before you, This is the guy that checks
sound check for you. For me, there's nobody closer to the hip hop thing than the DJ and it's the DJ the NC that turned our hats around and said, you know what, we're gonna put hip hop first, and when you come and see us, it's a beautiful thing. It's a beautiful kick. Listen, listen, listen. Let me just say that what y'all build, thank you, and just this this vibe you see, Lola will tell you, bro hey, nothing more than to sit down and answer questions, because
this ship is different. It's different, it's a conversation. It is one of the best shots I ever did. We're still on a quick time of slam and we're gonna try to I'll take a shot. Actually don't know what you're gonna answer when this question neither, but the next couple of months is gonna get pretty okay, Wine or Chapagne that was on the list, all right, Yeah, this is these guys over there, all right, just like I don't know where you're gonna go to this one because
Cardi v or Nicky winag. Remember you take a shot football, I go Nicky man. He's very decisive. Man. Well, but but now many people do what you're doing, right because because to me, it's not like I gotta love one to hate the other. I love Cardi B two. I just feel like, to me, Nikki's just got an edge in terms of what I like. You know what I'm saying. That's all it is. Dr Dre I go a puff, Okay,
I go a puff. Just just just cultural wise. I think Dr Dre producer incredible, legendary, probably the best of all time. But I think just someone who's been able to produce and stay relevant in the culture. Puff Daddy definitely. Okay. Podcasts or radio podcast I like that. Oh, I think you'll be definitive on this one. Draco Tory Lanes. I mean that's tough, man. We take a shot, I said, Drake though I said major or independent? Um, are we
talking future or past? We're talking whatever you want to talk. So you're talking about the future independent on the past Major. Yeah, I think that deserves a shot. I don't know. I don't know why. I just felt like that was like, alright, cool, you can go Waterballtom with me. Hold on, I need something to grow some hair on my check. You do want some? So you want if you want to grow
hair on your chest, that's that's Columbia White. That's yeah. Yeah, run hold on yeah wait wait wait hold on, there's a hold on, there's a smoke champs. Yeah, oh yeah, and look in front of you, look at yes, how to how to funk? Have I not been invited this? You know that's not true. You have the smoke chimps they did in New York though they didn't New York, and they're gonna smoke everything yet where there? Right there? Okay,
come once again. It's Colmbian white because there, but it's bas think cocaine and liquids spicy, it's licorice, so yo, belly. We just want you to know we salute you, we respect you. That was not Come on, man, you want something stronger, bro, I don't, don't. Don't do this with me, to be honestly, let's be honest. No, no, let me let me speak up for you. Your hand. I'm not saying you just you know, you know how we break
people down. It's good before exams. I used to take shrooms before exam just to make sure, okay, did I get a good grade? High as fun should be easy for you French or Travis Scott? Who French or Travis Scott. No, we gotta take a shot for that. And they say both my brothers. I can't Travis Scott, you gotta come here in French. I told told you the other day in Carbone. You know you gotta come here as well, Travis. Which one you want? Brose? Okay, no, no, nothing, not alright,
this is too sweet? Which you want? Mama Juana Columbia, why do you want to do? Saying yeah, that's honestly go yeah, let's go do same, Let's go do say man was watching the God damn it puts this. Products was watching We gotta mix the as of space? What to do now? I'm playing playing the Jeffrey. That's incredible, the modern day Jeffrey. Let's do that. People didn't too did it? No buffing, No, but people drank it by himself. Anybody drinking maybe started dream chance. I was first. It was.
It was when the first year, first year, first year, so puff came and he took one cup and he put alcohol the trophy, that's right, and he made us drink it, make us kind of he was just kind of check. He was okay. I was like, fucking, I felt obligated sippers with fucking but it literally tastes like death, Like I was like, it wasn't that bad. We just used for yourself the one man and then Pimple was the only one who did it again. But people drank it by himself. Yeah he was, he's he's a little
with sol. I forgot. I've been taking a shot for it. Just take a shot for taking a shot. Ah, Okay, what was your point today? Jay Coole, Kendrick mhm, I go Kendrick Okay, Foxy a little kid, Kim big Punig. Why would you do that? Though it's a purpose shot, it's a prpouse, light it up. We have fat Joe, he did the whole interviews. Cool, he's just like just giving the shot. He just took shots for everything. I'm sorry. This is because you set it up like that on purpose. Bro. No,
they set it up like this. Actually hasard this and Mr Lee's little diabolical trick over there, the Dominicans of the Columbias over there. Actually, I was going to take a shot this. This should be very easy, very complicated. It's the last one, sour or O G? Do you say complicated? Nothing complicated about it? O G? All day every day. Brother, I'm saying you don't like is that what comes from Canada? Let me tell you what I
don't like him about Sour. Let's be careful. I came to I came to New York a bunch of times, all the broll, these beautiful flavors. You felt like you was a fucking basking Robbins when you went to the plughouse. And then you get to New York and it's like, all right, what you got? I need something? You know what I mean? You know what's about city? We have something like we still can't let Timperlens go. We still can't like we love something. We just old deal on it.
So Salur was hazesth timple like that because Sour traumatized me every time I came to New York. That's why I said, what's your shot for you? For? That became funk that I have let goes out trying two years alow you know I was last one. I'm trying to let's take a shot. Come on, Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, let's do it. Come on, come on, every time you come get a shot. Shot come on, who let's do it as a group shot. I take my horn in your life defended, kid, can not tell your gom Let's go.
Shot goes to rock God damn you go. I'm to tell you got text baby I did? He didn't. Yeah, exactly good. Let's me too. I'm sticking with Strock as well. Man, I got only I can get the shop right here and go for blast. Yeah big so. Belly hold on. I just want you to everybody I think you got no belt. I just want you to know, belly up. I feel like you're the industry's best kept secret. I feel like everyone in the industry loves you, but I feel like a lot of the times they love you
in privory. I want to love you. I want to show love to you in public. I want the world to see how much I respect you, how much I funk with you and here we get the fun, how much I love you, and then and and and you deserve this. This is not something like you know, UM, like your favor, none of that. This is something you deserve. You deserve to be here. We look you. You earn it. You're a guy that put it into work and don't complain about ship and this very there's not a lot
of people that's like that. And just you don't know how much you appreciate it. Because when um with Deep the weather Man, my whole girl name Serry Sherry. When Serry said does he know that he's underrated and how he feel about it? And I was just like, you know what, that was a great question, But the greater question is let's keep leving. As long as you know
who you are, then we're gonna motherfucking keep living. So this is to you, belly, motherfucker makes a noise for the whole We got like two more questions to me out of here, Like even if on camera, no, everything's on count No, should you just said for me the ship because even though I'm gonna say, you know what I'm saying about feeling underrated or whatever, you're a ship like that. You know it makes me feel like you know the hard work, you know what I'm saying. It
didn't especially coming from you. Yeah, you know I didn't like cash you tell you your arthood like you were screaming out right from back to back down. But you know I'll tell the truth man, like you know, this is why I do this, This is why we do this. Excuse me? Is you know hip hop is a there's a genre that is wrong. That's why I asked you earlier, do you think that hip hop made it this farll like and the truth be told. Hip hop has made
it up there with food. What I mean by that is you go anywhere in the world and you're gonna give food. It's gonna be food somewhere. Hip Hop has made it that the way, like every everywhere, everywhere, and we have to start begging of our own people. We have to tell our people how much appreciated they are right now. We we created that, We created the flowers, you know, and tell our stories, make stories stories. My favorite song off see you next Wednesday. It's called Flowers Flowers. Yeah,
I'm gonna play it for you. Let's play at play a lot that look at a little she looks like she own point. Let's She's like, I'm already and I showed you Like for me, it's like I'm the vessel of the song. I'm the one saying it, but like it's really for everybody. It's the same way I feel walking in here and sing with legends to me. You know what I'm saying, Your legends, bro, When I come in here and it's like, I love to give you all your flowers. You deserve it, you know, it's your
flowers to day. Brother, It's your flowers a day. It's your flowers. But continuing to do what you do for you not understand, Benny, don't exist without without seeing that in Noriega round Yank, they don't exist without that. But that's what you here now. And we're gonna bake you the fuck up that it's your turn. If someone's not going to exist because of you, ye know what I'm saying. So it keeps going down. That's what this is. This
is about. It's like, you know, I'm blessed. I'm blessed to have a life where I can sit here and pick up other artists and and put other artists to torture on them. And I want to do that. I want to continue to do that because I actually live my life to a certain extent. I want to live more. I want to live a lot more. But um, but I also want to help people live. And that's what this is about. We got it. We gota lined up. That's the key to life. Bro Okay, that's really the
key to yeah for real? Like you know, Um, I don't know if I ever said this, but I don't even take compliments good Like I don't know how to I don't know how to take a car. Look man, somebody sayd yo, I love your album with S, I change the subject, come up perfect. You know what puff Puff taught me how to take a compliment, Well, I don't know what t tim One time puff gave me a compliment and I tried to compliment puff back. I said, you don't got a compliment. I know who the fuck up?
And I was like, wow, like you know what I mean. Flowers, flowers right here, going back, ship ship ship, everybody up to drink change in the video where we got to let's that's our bottom, that's our slogan. That's it, that's what what it is we that's all. That's all. And like I said, that's not like like I wanted to sing it in a way where like everybody can singing like like everybody likes everybody right now, not look no,
if they can relate to everybody right now. We told my motherfucker name is on, that name is light On. That to my motherfucker's belly today today, belly to we are motherfucker's a little you. Your motherfucking flowers right here. Even though we're familis, we don't have actual flowers, but we're working on that we got actually trees though we can smoke man wrong. That's a lot like that. Shou flowers. Not only you deserve your flowers, Thank you man. It's
about time you recognize that you deserve your flowers. You gotta recognize it now, you gotta, you gotta start recognizing that you you are going. You all wanted the ghosts in the game. And guess what we we ain't sad to tell you that. We're happy to tell you that I got there. Ain't say where you at and and and and how far you come. We're proud of that ship, man, and we're gonna keep you lotting that We're gonna keep you and next Wednesday, see you next Wednesday, see you
next Wednesday. I feel like sheally dropping on a Wednesday Friday, because you know everyone drops on Friday. Let's just dropping on the Wednesday's break Over, Break Over Champions Exclusive were dropping. Now. I'm sorry, I got to the shot. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, She's so great. I gotta I'm sorry. It was like this. You know what I'm saying, he said. I didn't set it up like this. There's forty three bottles. We definitely up like that. So I'm gonna be honest, let me ask.
I got two more questions. One is about the vaccination and the other is about you got your shot. I'm sorry, I can't wait that you want to give me more question? Canada right now with you over your forty the weak Tory lanes that you guys kind of got your own wave, your own like a t L slash New York going on. Is that's something you guys plans or this is something that happened organically? I mean for us, I think you know you say for us, I think all my guys
can attest you know what I mean. Like we came in the game, you know, me and Cash started working this ship when we was teenagers, like I said, twenty plus years and my brother Sal twenty plus years. Um, I think I think like all this ship for us like really just came about because it didn't exist where we were. Understand what I'm saying. It was almost like like we came down here a few times and then we watched like the New York Hustle or like we
went to Chicago. We were and we've seen like the real hustle and what it looks like, and like we brought that back, you replicated it, that's that's really how we built our model in terms of like Canada and and and and building our model you know what I mean. But I'll say this. You just mentioned a bunch of Canadian acts. Right Our government gives grants for musical talent. Yeah.
So whereas here they invest in the Olympics, they invest in gold medals, right in Canada they invest in the creatives. Shout out the house, House Xcel, shout out to even the government itself is giving people grants. Name a dude that came came years ago towards studio they was in. They was in the projects and it was in Toronto, and they was telling us about the grants and I was like, oh, this is crazy. Yeah, Like like the government is incredible in terms of that, Like like we
don't invest a lot in sports except hockey. They go crazy for hockey, but in Canada they really go crazy for the arts. And that's you know something I felt not only I was blessed with, but like everybody you just named, like big Brother was listening to us, but for real and help. It really helped put a lot of us on in terms of, uh, you know, being able to find the funds, the resources and ship like that. You know, Canada was always a good place too, because
it was one point. It was just like Cardinal official and that's it. Then they went from car remember before, there's a lot of them before Cardinal as well. I actually don't remember those guys. I said, what Socrates is another one man shot players. I think it's a yeah. I think like which history in Canada, I think Chaos was probably the most um, Chaos the most creative out of everybody. From that, I think Cardinals are one of the goats of Canada as well. That's that's look. Look,
let me tell you something. All respect to those guys, you know what I'm saying, But like like I said, it was a different lane than the lane we came into. You know what I'm saying. They did everything they had to do. They reached the top of the fucking mountain, but when we came in, it was just a different lane than everything that anybody was doing. So I was to all those guys that did all that, but when we came in, we changed it. You know what I mean. Anybody to try to tell you that we didn't is
a liar. You know, you call do you call um it's the sixto the six? Do you call them the six? Um? No, I don't. I call it Toronto. I don't know what hious because I wanted to ask. My next question would have been like, why did he say it's the six? Is it because he thinks that like Toronto is the sixth? Barol? I kind of honestly, bro, like I said, six years, I've been in l A. I'm removed, right, I don't
you know what I mean? I don't. I don't. I don't really subscreen to something because you know what happened when I was out there. I went out there at CN that we're not the news network, just to be clear, and we're not, Yeah Cooper, but we went and this is when Drake had just first came out drinks with my favorite artists. So I'm like an idiot. I'm in front of the tea dot and I said, you know what's going on with the six? And they was like
shot the fuck up thing. I was like the tea dot in the building and there was like a y So I had to realize where I was at. Compona Noriega does not bring the six crowd, nor re mis home boy, or you be kinda but CNN, we cannot say the six am I bucket all. I'm not trying to said, bro, honestly shout out to Toronto. They took me in my open arms. And you know, even when they didn't, we did what we had to do. But God blessed they took me on open arms. I got
to build a beautiful career there. But I don't know, I don't know the politics, bro. Like like I said, as soon as I conquered what I wanted to do in Canada in general, you know, I moved on to the next you know, the next thing. You know what I mean. Let's not forget this shot. It's very important. Got the vaccination, I think a pp you talking about vaccines. No, I'm just kidding. No, no, no, bro, this part of drink. No, he just got a drink chance. You gotta hold your peer.
But let's go. So I watched you on my Brother Fat Joe show. Yeah, I love I love Fat Joe. That's my problem. Yeah, I love them because people having more arguments lately, and it's like I love that I love, but it's my brothers. My brother brother brother watched you on the show and he said that he got the vaccination. He said that his being their friends, I think particularly, that's who he said to you. He said, all his being their friends went and ran to get the vaccination.
And then you said, I'm paraphrasing, of course, you said, um, but ladies and nurse or something to that nature, doctor, doctor, excuse me. Yeah, And he said, so this is the reason why I felt like I would use monetoring. What can you speak to the audience. They're saying about people who who's like, there's people in this world are saying, I'm not getting the vaccination. This is the six six, This is the market of beast, this is all this. You don't get it. If you don't want to get it,
don't get it. There's something called natural selection. Back in the days, it used to mean that lions eat us. Now the days it means you're too stupid to go get a vaccine. That's the way I look at it. Vaccines literally, Uh, they upped our our life expectancy. No vaccines right now, we were living to thirty seven and a half. The only reason we live to the age
we live. How many immigrants in the room right now, all right, how many of y'all can lift up your shirt and show me the scar on your arm right now, And what do you think that is? What is that? That's a fucking vaccine. The only reason we live until fucking a hundred years old now is because science gave us fucking vaccines. And let me say this, Ramadan just ended. Let me just say this to Muslim scientists came up with the fucking the vaccine for this virus. So shout
out to them. I'll never take away from them ever. Y'all wanna everybody wants to make it a conspiracy theory. Guess why because to Muslim solve the problem. That's why. Wow, people want to talk about Oh six six people got blood flots from the all right, about five thousand people had adverse reactions to Thailand all last year. We're talking about it. Vaccine that can save your life from vaccines. You know what I mean? Oh yeah, madurna mafia, madurna mob all day, he got J and J. Right. I'll
be honest with you on everything. First of all, like, uh, the type of vaccine that we got now, which is m r N a vaccine? Right? You know about this ship now? Just breakthrough first time in history. It's never happened before. Too much, some science has figured it out. That's good or that. Don't try to take this shine away, bro, So that's good. Don't try to take that. Don't try to make this a hoax and a conspiracy is and
a hoax. And two brilliant minded people came up with a solution and they just happened to be Muslim, God bless. I'll praise them every day before I buy into some trump or conspiracy theory. That's me, you know what I mean. But no, but but pop shouldn't be trials to make sure that it is good and there's no side effects. Just that's my Everyone gets back to normal life so much. Check this out. Right, You go outside right now, and the ragweed that's growing in the grass, I could give
you allergic reaction. Right, So the only thing you gotta worry about with vaccines is allergic reactions. When when the Johnson and Johnson thing went crazy and people said, oh, six people got blood clots, somebody google please how many people had adverse reactions so over the counter medications last year. I bet you the numbers in the millions. They want to bring up six blood clots out of something like, you know, I don't know how many tens of million
millions of people got vaccinated. They want to bring up that. I don't look at that like that. The vaccinations are nineties something percent effective. Right the flu shot people that people take every year, there's only effective. People go and take the flu to save themselves from the flu. With a shot that's fifty effective, You've got a shot that's nineties something percent effective from saving you from something that can actually kill you. They can't talk to me, Bro.
My wife's a doctor. Shout out to doctor Dino, you know what I mean? She she, she, she gives me to and then for me. You know, a large some like three quarters of the people that died from COVID were overweight. Right, for sure, I'll take my risk with Fiser, Maderna or John any one of them, before I take my risk with that, if you know what I'm saying, Like I'm not. There's no doubt that people who probably had adverse effects to the vaccinations or died probably something
else was going on. The vaccine wasn't really the issue. They had some kind of underlying health issues some people. But we can't ignore people who feel hesitant on vaccines based on the history of experimenting on people. I'm not saying that people like we understand and that's where the government and then the way that that that that these things are marketed or explained and educating people is they
funked up with that period. Well, here's the thing. As a conversations on drink, here's the thing the idiot like, like, we can all agree, right if you're if you're about to make a movie and you needed a white villain, they would come from the Republican Party, Like that's they just look like it, right. These guys, bro are the ones that are against all this ship. As soon as I see them against something, I know I should be
with it. That's how I look at it. These racists, fucking old gray motherfucker's like, as soon as they're against something, I'm like, oh, maybe I should be with it because I know they're making all the wrong decisions in terms of what my life should be. I'm gonna make the
other decisions. Scared when you started to hear that certain people that have taking the vaccination was actually still getting COVID and certain people are still even dying after they getting the vaccination, did you hear about those part of the stories. I mean, look, anything they're gonna administer to your body, right, some people are gonna have different reactions to. For the most part, this ship is helping people. Look right now and and and Cali, they're about to open
everything up in New York. They're about to open You know why that is because of the vaccination. The only reason before that we were like, oh, masks, stay six ft away, don't go here, don't go there. We were dying by the hundreds of thousands. Vaccination started, Everyone's like, oh, hey, guess what, we're about to open up. You can go eat again Miami and give a fun. Miamis never given a fun, you know the last year. No, But don't take it as like I agree with the responses and
a lockdown, and I don't. I'm just telling the science behind the ship. I really read into this ship and really read into how they did. This is the first time in history m RNA virus um has a vaccine. First time. It's a breakthrough, right, And if I was to look at it and see something out, but I see two Muslim scientists that made this happen. I'm not gonna sit there and tell people. Yo, this is some government fucking conspiracy. I'm not bro and and I'll tell
you this. In countries that are you know, disenfranchised, like they want they want the vaccine from us. But but check this out, and places that are disenfranchised are occupied, right. They don't give them the vaccine. They give the vaccine to their own population and won't give it to their lower class quote unquote population. So if the ship was really that bad, why wouldn't they give it to the people that they're trying to impress. That's that's my whole ship,
you know what I mean. I mean, there's we could go into this subject and go into layers and layers and layers, but that's another show we gotta called Conspiracy Champs. We're not gonna go there. What I'm saying like, we can't we think this is like this. I mean, you might understand the science. Maybe I don't understand the science. And that's the thing that worries me most things that I've ever seen. When it's a vaccine or any any medical trial, they take years to make sure that it's
healthy and safe. Working on this for ten years, Okay, well I don't know that, and so for this. It seems from the from any regular person that what was more important. Let's open up these fucking economies so these countries people could breathe and then someone you could, you could actually easily sway it out. Maybe more people will die from suicide because the economy is so bad versus
a couple of people might die from a vaccine. That's that's that's fair to say some in some aspect, But it's our role right as like humans, to save humans. That's really our role, right. But not all humans want to save humans. Some humans wanna wanna prosper off a few bands and make moneygreed. There's all kinds of reas actually right. But to me, like I said, certain science, Like I said, I see you have had Joe both talking about it when you got it to meet No, No,
it's here to save us. I mean eventually, like I haven't gotten it, but eventually I'm gonna get it. Now when it comes to the kids and it starts to and you know, they're making a young that I worry a little bit about that. Yeah, I worry a little bit about it too, But why not, they're your kids. You should worry. I just think I just think on the body mass wise, vaccines, I don't know. I just I think about those things you should worry. But at the end of the day, can you enroll your kids
in school without certain other vaccines? Let's say coronavirus didn't exist? Could you? You could? You could if you have a religious letter, right yea, like as exemption right right, Okay, Like that's what we're talking about. You gotta go so far, like you just said, you don't. You gotta go so far to go to religion to be like, okay, my kids shouldn't be vaccinated. Like the ship is real, bro. The first people that took the ship were the doctors. Yeah,
even even even like it wasn't it um uh. Vice president was Come on, Harris, I think she was on the front line. Look all of them. Fine, like people look at it. I don't even like it because people look at it like it's it's performative rights. You don't know, it's a placebo they got or whatever. It's super performative. Right. But like, bro, like I'm I'm trying to tell you, like every one of us in here seeing the change. As soon as the vaccine kicked, right, everything everything to
open them back up things that you know. That could be a place too. It could be you've given something people feel better, they boom. It could be I'm not going because look and I'm gonna talk. I don't even know if I want to talk to this deep. But so I had COVID. I was in the crib. I had two young kids, my girl, her grandma year old. Nobody had got it from me, and I wasn't quarantining in the crib. But mind you, my girl her crib, her father got it, mother got it, sister got it,
and brother got it in the same house. So it's different for everybody, right, you see what I'm saying. Wait, wait, so different different examples of spread for different people. No, no, but that's what I'm saying. Look, and then the day, bro, we're all grown here, right, nobody's young. We know it's some queens in the building. No, No, it's experienced that's been proven to eliminate. This is that's me. You want to light this candle. You can like dories candle and
a lot of no like them. So what I'm saying, my girl, whole family got COVID, right, and nobody in my house. And then he said, I couldn't quarantine even though I wanted to. We had a baby in the crib. Had to be proactive in the crib, you know what I'm saying. And nobody in my crib caught it. Nobody. No, I'm gonna tell you this man tested. We tested, because you know how we had the tests. I took those tests and tested everybody. I tell you. When when the
vaccine came out, Palestinians had no access to it. They were not giving any type of access to it. You know. That gave me the checkmark to be like, oh, they're not giving it to them because that could be helpful. They're not. It's actually it's actually a good thing that they're not giving it to them because they know it's making you believe it more so, as soon as they oppressed people with a vaccine right there, holding back from
something that, why would you impress people with it? You would literally use it to you know what I'm saying. That's that's when I knew, man, Like, the ship is real, bro, this is not drink Champs, this is think Champs Chaps. That's the next one, Well, that's her. That's the podcast you're we're going to give to you. And you please take your bad old I got your bad told him, Yeah, so bad's definitely yeah. Yeah. Oh oh wow, this is deep. I didn't I didn't know how deep it's going to. Yeah,
gotta relax. So you got vaccinated? You did? You have? You got of it? I want to go to the Hawaii man, So that means you're gonna get it. Yeah. If you're gonna travel, you're gonna have to get it travel. I was holding up for her immunity, but in this crowd, I don't think we have her immunity yet. What then heard them? Where more people in the population have immunity, have the vaccine than the the ones that don't, And
that's when you have herd immunity. Um, because didn't they just boarded the boats that they can't come to Florida because Florida band Florida's banned from some countries. Bro, Florida's a foulda's place in the world there, but this, this is not the place to be at. I love it because I'm also a foul motherfucker. When I figured out, like, y'all take the worst place in America. Yeah, I take offense to that. Fat This is clear Florida is a vaccine.
Listen to me. Yeah we're dirty, but to me, everybody was judging Atlanta. First of all, Atlanta wasn't open. It was George that was open. Well ak Atlanta then yeah, no, I'm not disputed what I'm saying. You're saying Georgy people like they just trying to kill black people like Atlanta. When you think about Atlantic, just think about black people. But let's be clear, Georgia is not all black. This dude named tam Tom, Yeah he's walking around. He uncle
Tom from frank Like. He just didn't shoot anybody. And he lived in Georgia on Gusto. You want to say the house skirts. But Florida, you know, I ain't gonna lie. Let me tell you. So we locked down for like a good two three months. Fourth months time was back open. I see it. David Ruffman had a party. He he plugged speakers. It was underground strip clubs. Mr Lee was at the front door. I didn't take these parties, but I was well aware of what's going on. And I'm
not gonna lie. Florida's a file. Hou's never stopped going to the bar. He's what my cousin's doing cocaine everywhere. That's cocaine. I come on, man, you have a lot of cocaine stories in your music. What's your best cocaine story? Like, you know what it's doing cocaine just powder right not and no, no, we're not ever talking about that talk about yeah, no, definitely not. Um one time we was on the tour bus. Oh no, a matter of fact, I'm gonna give you the best story about song. I'm
gonna give the best story about something. So first of all, first of all, let me start off. Let me start out saying, shout out to my brother Bump j. You know Bumpy Johnson. So you know, me and me and Bumping know on each other. We as teenagers, you know. So he he has signed this deal. Oh yeah, no, no, it wasn't a Kanye. It was like the Landing or some something like that. So we go to l a together. Um, we go to record Plant studio studio right, so now
Kanye West producing. So already I'm excited. I'm going you know, everybody's excited, going crazy. So I go to the lounge, I'm rolling up whatever. So Bump comes into the lounge. He's like, yo, you've got to come back into the studio, like, what's up? He said, Rick James in the studio, whoa right? So so so yeah, yeah, if you look it up, bump Ja and Rick James got a song together. So definitely we're all doing cocaine. Now, you know what I mean,
like rest in peace, Rick James. You know what I'm saying. I'm not I'm not trying to dispect. I'm not trying to dispect that look like okay, right now, to look what happened. Right, So Rick James obviously just like you know, everybody's legend. So I I come into the studio. He's telling stories to all the homies, Rick James. Check this out. You know who he's with. He's with Eddie Winslow. Shout out to Eddie Winslow. I don't I don't know his
real name, but from family matters doing so anyone right. So, so, so there in the studio, Kanye making beats whatever, it's watch this right. So I walk in. So now I'm smoking. So he was like, oh, young blood, broke roll me something up. I said, Oh, this is Rick James asking me to roll something. I run to the lounge, right, So I run to the lounge. I rolled a blunt. Come back like y'all. He wanted a dirty R. I said, here go, Mr James, you know whatever the funk I said.
He was like, what is this? Get this? Getto ship out of my face right now, because because I rolled a blunt, right, So he's like, get out of my face, roll me a white boy, I said, I cool. So I ran back to the lounge. I saw right, So did you smoke that blunt? Though you already know I definitely smoked it. But I go to the lounge. Now I rolled him a knife is joint, you know, nice l no cocaine. I bring it back magic. He's rest
in peace to the dead. I don't want to dispect the dead, rest of p But he was tweaking, you know what I'm saying, right, gone, sweat and all that. So I give him the joint. So now he's in there, shout out to bump J. Kanye West in the room, a bunch of Chicago home. He's, you know, and he's telling stories. So he's holding a joint in his hand, telling stories, and I'm watching the fucking joint go like this right, so so so this's just like so I'm
watching this ship because of his sweat. Rest in peace. Rick James got no disrespect to the death bro. He was sweating so crazy, like the joint actually went like this right. So now he had already shipped on me for the blunt. So fine, they have to like forty five minutes of telling stories. He goes to light the ship, right, So he puts to join up and the ship is like this, right, so he tries to light because of it's not even my my role was thank you. I
wrote a beautiful bat. She was like this. He tried to light it. He turned around said, motherfucker. What. By the time he finished, yes, bro, no, no, no, I I stumped out the room. I just left the room, like I didn't even listen to I just wanted to go and roll him another joint. I wanted to do anything that I could do. It's Frick James. And I was like, I I'll do anything to like make you get high right now. I know you need it, like
you know what I'm saying. And then and then a little little side story when he went in the booth, it's cocaine. So he's so so he's singing the song so he would go engineer take a back so to do none, none close James not as close. So he would be like so he would be like, um, the dude be like, oh, I'm sure my mom my name is James. But yeah, no problem, gonna take it back for you right now. You and Bro. He would not
call the dude by his name. The dude corrected him about forty three times throughout the session every time he wanted the correction of some ship you engineer, do this, bro, as you look, he's a motherfucker. He would not. He wouldn't get it. You wouldn't get it. He would no, No, he was the most turned up dude. Like it really like inspired me for the future to be like, yeah, you could be as crazy as you want to be. So shout out super shout out to James, Shout out
to James. Names never never, you never just said the cocaine part of this story because this is cocaine was president. That I didn't need to because, like I said, Bro, just wet it was. It was in the air cocaine. I gave you the side of the story, which was a sweat. He's just telling you that was cocaine. The joint Like honestly, it felt crazy to me because I was like, damn bro, like I really went rolled the blunt for him. He sent me back to the lounges
and rolling some other ship. I rolled a joint. I come back. That's insane and then he sweats it out and then it gets mad at me and he sweated it out. You know what I mean. You know that's what I'm saying. That's insane. Like, that's that. And Dame Dash shipped on me in the same day. In the same day, No, Dame Dash, I come because Kanye was there. Dame Dash came outside side. So you know, this is a young probably seventeen year old Belly walked up to
a studio assistant. Was that what you were doing that? No? No, I was really me and Bump or signs to the same. He were just holding it down just to do. I was just like one of the background smoke weed, you know, just back around us bro. And I went up to Dame Dash. I said, yo, I got the hardest ship out right now. He said, I give it to me. I said, what, I don't got it on? He said, Man, don't come up. I'm going to you with that bullshit
some ship like that. He said some crazy ship to me like that, Like if you don't get it on, you don't come up to me like that, that type of ship. And I was just like, damn, it just really humbled me to the point where I was like, ship, let's print. Yeah it was. Honestly, it was real. But like you know, as a kid like you seventeen years old, that ship hurt your feeling. That broke my heart. Bro, I'm not gonna lie. I just got yelled at by Rick James. I come outside, Damn, dash takes a ship
on me. I said, yo, bum, I see you at the hotel. That's how you graduated up the story. Look what you made it sound. Never let's take this guy. Yeah yeah, bro, you said cocaine. I thought, Rick James rest president peace. Rick James. I never met Rick James. I never met two parts neither. I didn't either. I met Biggie, never me Biggie. But I never met Rick James. I wish I met pun bro, because I really but
not punt like to me. As crazy as that Rick James story is, I would trade it for a punch story. I respect that, you know, I mean, I really expect that. But um, but I ended on this. Biggest regret for punt I ever remember was my mother said, I don't she can't even there's very southern people that no more. Mother. My mother's the sweetest lady. I have no idea why she birthed me exact coppins, I'm foul just who I am hip hop mother mother. My mother sister sees she
asked me for one favorite. She says, you know, um, you know, I never asked for anything. And I was like, of course, mass or whatever. You want something he's gonna say, Michael Jackson, Prince, paula ab do, I older older piles on, you know, older people in this room. No, Paul do all I do with this ship somethings He's gonna ask with Paul app do, She said, Yo, I want to meet Punting. I said, what the poem is my best friend at the time. I'm hanging out with him every day.
And I never actually did that. I never actually put it together, and by the time it was happened, you know, passed away. So I always regretted that. And I don't know why I even broken the story up right now, I'm just being a little must rest in peace. Now we're gonnag no, bro, I'm really really was one of my teachers on God Like I keep knocking cups over because really one a boy, drake, That's exactly what's happening.
Any time you you you lean it over. That's point of saying, belly lighting the candles missing league, Yeah, what the funk? Bro? And why is my candles? Let me ask you this the last question. I promised drinking mowana the last question, and I promise, and we'll wrap it up from here. Let's go. That's all stop. Yeah, it's cuban and keeping goodbye. We keep saying I'm leaving it, never leave. What's your favorite part of the game. Is it making the record or perform for the record. It depends.
Like for me in the studio, I feel like, you know, I got this level of confidence, no anxiety, you know, you know, no like uh type of feelings that hold me back, you know what I mean. But if you see me right before I perform, like I'm having like them they're a nervous breakdown, right, it's my nerves or something.
Every time you perform or the first time before them, every single time, like I'm holding onto the fucking railings before I get on stage, really but as soon as I get on stage, just like like I'm possessed, you know what I mean. So I don't know. I feel like, to me, the studios the best part, but when I find those moments on stage, that's just special. Um, I'm sure you know what. No, I really I really understood
every single because it's that's the thing. As And I want to pick you up against the shot first solo. I have never like when I listened to you in the Weekend working, I'm I'm I'm being honest. I want to I want to really pick you up. I don't I've never worked with an artist like The Weekend right, And I don't want to say that's at cheek cold because that's like kind of like taking away from everything. But he does so much records with with anybody that
anybody who has a Weekend record, it's gonna go. But yours is different. This is your Homebie, this is You're not putting them on because he's the Weekend. You're putting them on because this is your home. And that's that's just it's just it's just an ill thing because it works, you know, I wanna make an sense like it works, And like I said, um, I went and I looked at the whole catalog. I just wanted to go through
the whole catalog. And when I seen that this is somebody that wants to be next to you, this is somebody that you want to be next to. This is like remarkable to me because I feel like y'all didn't change. Like I feel like y'all I knew each other as the children. And maybe if even if you did have a little bit discrepancy, no one knows about it. So how is that? How is that maintaining the relationship with someone a superstar status like that? To me? To me,
I never feel that. I never feel that. Like with him, he's like um no, no, but he's such a humble dude, like a good dude. And again I'm gonna say this, bro, like I fuck with people for their musical ability and the energy they got and all that. When it comes to able the person he is as much as he is like the top artists in the world or whatever, like he manages to surpass that as a human. You feel what I'm saying. He's there for everybody that's around him.
He uplifts everybody that's around him, He'll find the strengthen you and make sure you bring it out and make fucking millions out of it without him having to give you no type of handout or no type of you know what I'm saying, Like he's and again it's like the family that we got, right, we at least ten plus twenty years plus together right up, ups, downs, bullshit, stories, rumors, book But we laugh at that ship because at the end of the day, it's like we know, since day one,
we knew this man had greatness in him. You know, shout out to my brother's cash sal the guy's Lamar, you know what I mean, the guys that really stuck to one vision and executed it and made it happen. But realistically, bro, like that dude was destined for greatness from the first day I met him. I met him, I knew what he was gonna be. On God, that was hard. I can't even I can't follow it up. I don't know. I just want to spray some creed
because it's five hundred dollars to spray. Almost curious out here. I'm going to bet listen to you gotta listen to sessions. Okay, we're listening session. Oh you don't even know. Look not airline rights. I did know before I walked in here and take another shot, and I brought change the clothes and everything, so I said, fu, I'm gonna change. I expected to come here and shut my pens. So thank God applies, not barely. Just in case your professional. That's
just in case you don't know. I really, I really look up to everything you. Let let us continue. You're a humble legend. There's been plenty of times where I've seen people you know, come up to you show you love, and you you sit back and you're like me. And that's why I funk with you. In a lot of ways. I don't like to get compliments. I like to give compliments. It makes me more of a man to give compliments. And I know that you're like that because I've seen it.
I've seen that came around, we hang out to the Hit Factory, to three days in a row, whatever. And but what I want you to know is I want you to never ever ever downplay yourself. You that guy. Thank you, you're that guy too. And just in case you don't know, you that guy me yes and has the sounds drink champion and Boris. We're gonna remind you Boris to Yes Boris too. He wrote give me some Blood and we're gonna celebrate you for life, bro, And we can't wait for this new album, Thank you, and
we're gonna promote it. Pump it. See you next Wednesday, see you motherfucking next week, and see you motherfucker's next Tuesday. Every heart visit y'all, tell my Iraqi's listening Iraqi when it was real back Dad, Let's go. You gotta do
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