Episode 253 w/ DJ Drama, Cassidy and Michael Blackson

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don't know. While Um went on to put on a guy who has a diamond bringing his head, it's Ford and he put on a whole bunch of other people. He's a legend and he's in the minute of a cart adversity beat. They're gonna get to the bottom with the dream Chance today. There's a couple of them we're gonna get too. In case you don't know what we're talking about, DJ the other one is a legendary rapper.

Side to the Homeboy, Swiss Beats went through a lot of things, you know, still in the game, you know what I mean, A lot of things that's happened that it hasn't been answered in his career as well. But he's also a legendary phully and he's a ball lord lyrics to the lyricists, and he's very in tune with God. In case you don't now, not not. The other one is a comedic genius. I actually thought that he was not from Africa, but Google he is from Africa, and

then he moved. People started claiming him as Haitian earlier. I don't know what nothing's right, but I went to watch this man, this man, and he's survived through the pandemic. Man. A lot of people are hurting, man, A lot of people, you know what I mean. They can't get to the people that can't get to their fans. This man is is a genius and and and his stand up a genius in his Instagram a genius just overall any role he played man you know, from having beef for Peaky

and all that, you know what I'm saying. In case Miga black around he played with God I care. So let's let's let's break down Philadelphia right now, only brothers Philadelphia? Right? Philadelphia is the city of brotherly love that seemed to not have brotherly love. Is that accurate? Yes? I mean it's been accurate ever since, you know, I was born and raised there. Like I don't know if it's if it's like the gift and occurs of us having to

name the city of brotherly love. But you know, one thing about Philly is like we we've always had so much talent. But you know, me moving out, I guess I was able to see. I think a lot of it is just the facts that there's not as many outlets is other places, you know what I'm saying. So you know, there's been a thing through the years of people saying like you gotta leave Philly to kind of get on or you know, this mentality of Philly having.

It's like uh, crabbing a barrel type of which a lot of cities l A and you live in Atlanta, Yeah, you still live in Philly cast or you in Jersey. Think it's gonna leave somebody's all right. I just feel like love could grow to hate. You know what I'm saying. When you grow up in the city from young, people know why you used to be. They know how you was when you was fucked up, if you used to be a certain way, if you used to be dirty, or if the nigga beat you up before something. They

know about your history. So when they see you accomplish it and then you become successful, that love that they used to have for you could It could start off they're excited like, oh my nigga doing something, but then they see you really winning, you running around the world, You're getting one of bitches. Then they get mad because they don't got no plan. Some nigga's wig plans get

inspired and encouraged. But some niggas that don't got no plan and no, I don't know where they're gonna turn, and they see other niggas doing that, they get discouraged. So that's why you gotta leave your city, because when niggas see you in different cities, they only know you from the nigger that you is now. They don't know your story of what you used to do. So sometimes you'd be having a clean slate and it'd be easier to do it like that, like you were born, like

born again. Even go back to the stories in the Bible, Jesus had to leave where he was from to get recognition and all that man our ancestors was telling us about this since back in the base change Michael, I mean that's think that's for every city. I mean, right, Ye're not possible, but I mean I think what besides, like you're going to like a place like New York. New York is a great place for entertainment, Atlanta in l A. I mean there's only three paces entertainers go to. Wow.

So you know, you know you never heard of negatives popping and gods Jackson, Misssippi. When I fu Jackson, you gotta get funk out of jack Every city you gotta leave, I think the city Brother you Love. I guess it just means, you know, I never really did a research a WI it's called brother you Love. I know for a fact, if I never moved to Philly, I would not be y I am today. So all they love the Philly. Sometimes it's all about where you're, where you're from,

that raised you, that makes you what you are. And Phil Delpin made me the great comedian and I am you know coming from my Africa movie. The Philly definitely changed my life. So I do say, Cup, I got that same story, but kind of the opposite, Like put us on Philly is what made me like I wouldn't be who I am for being one of raids and growing up in Philly and having you know, the hustle's mentality, like you know, the city, the arts that we have coming from the city, but then coming to Atlanta and

being able to accomplish what I did. You know, it's kind of a story of the book too. I just kid from Philly comps and you know I asked for one cup, that the whole cup. You know, I got that kind of changes like you know, southern Southern rap history. You know what I'm saying. The Philly So you know, similar, similar story, but you's in a different one. So let's be clear, man, what's going on with you and ouzy Bert Man? Because um it just feels it just feels like, um, y'all,

y'are not on the same level. You ain't got nothing to do with the car in the Fullhead's definitely on a whole another level. It's on a whole another level. A lot of nigga. When when you saw There's twenty four, he was like, how much of that did I make happen? Like what? What did you say? What do you think? I thought it was genius? So it was genius. I think, like like who he has been doing since the beginning

of his career. It's just like you no, he's he's a master it um of attracting attention what I'm saying, and like, you know, I saw him saying, like you know, when he saw the diamond, He's like, I'm a little loozy, Like I can't just put that on my finger, I gotta put that on my head. So and that's just the type of that's the type of like individually he's always been, like you know, he was he was a

rock star from the beginning. So to see where he's at now and you know, to watch him put the diamond in his hands right there, or maybe you ain't exactly understanding my question he got lit and he left. Is that? I mean, you gotta keep it real drama. At some point, you gotta address this year. You gotta

stop being light skinned. And I've been talking about it recently, Like you know, anything with us is that you know, me and Cannon and Lake and you know generation now, like when it out of it was going on, we kind of set silent, you know, and and never really like it was public, and you know, we didn't really

want to get in anything like a public situation. And honestly, like you know, like to this day, I was he wasn't absolutely like yeah, he put the tweets on everything, so you know, and he created a certain narrative, you know what I'm saying in a situation like that, when you know Whosy is, you know, one of the biggest artists in the world, Like it wasn't even a space or a place for me to really for us to feel like we had to defend ourselves, like we know

where we come from, we know we do good business, you know what I'm saying, And like if there's any it's just a personal situation. I can't help that, Like, you know, I can't help how the guy might feel about the personally, but I know when it comes to business or nothing. It was like they said that I was holding his music up. Yeah, we're in the business of putting music out, so you know, holding the music up not help us. And know no, I always wanted that,

like cast like I always wanted that. Like sometimes when the rumor is not true about you, right, why you just addressed the room or just immediately, But people train you not to, right. I don't even know what public I mean, but but I feel like discussing it then would it wouldn't have been in the space because again, his successes are success. We're still in business with little so I'm come to death. Row Records take money f

jay Z and that deal that's just happened. Man, I'm so proud, man, I'm so proud that we could take our culture and the people outside our culture has to recognize and buy into our culture and be a part of our culture. Because that's saying this for real. They can't beat us. They got to join us. God damnage to make a choice. But you're still getting money money with him. But is this your first time the artist?

Was just was was you know? Um? Well, I mean it's it's a different situation that's going to happen, because yeah, I mean I think that happens all the time. But

you know, Susy was literally our our first artist. I was signed to our label, So I mean we came out of the gate like with a super win, like you know, with success, so you know, obviously we I would have wanted it to go a different way, you know what I mean, like with our quote unquote first artist, per se, you know what I'm saying, and you know, putting a label on his back and you know, Champion

Generation now. But it didn't go that way. But it's fine because like you know, the thing about it and the reason I can speak positively about it is because you know, since that situation, you know, we've went on and created another superstar and you know what I'm saying, like Jack Carlo and you know, put it in perspective like you know what I mean, Like, um, I've been here a long time, like this is what I do.

I'm cut from the close, so you know I'm gonna keep Because you even went to a discrepancy with with Swiss at one point. How did that start? How did your in debt correct that? Me and Swiss never went through a discrepancy. That's a misunderstanding that the world got. Okay, I guess they think when people separate, you know what I'm saying, they had to go through some misunderstanding, there's some type of problem. But me and Swiss, we never

even argue before. We never had misunderstanding, never beat for Swiss before. We never had no confrontations, you know what I'm saying. So that was definitely in the public eye. But we just, yeah, we just part of ways as businessmen. I wanted to go in a different direction and he was going in. We didn't agree in the direction that we wanted to go in for my career, so we just decided the part ways and just go in different directions. But it's all love. It was never thinks, but I'm

gonna let you get away with it. Thought differences that's giving in the business. I learned how you got to separate the two when I first got in and I was a young boy, I was seventeen, so I used to look at it the scene. I looked at all of the rappers that I looked up to a street niggas. So when they were saying all of the ship that

they were saying, I believed it. So when I got into business and niggas was calling you their brother and saying they love you and funk with you because you in the line, like I thought that ship was true. I really actually believed that. I looked at it like it was a street and they get telling me the

same ship. But I learned how the business go, and I learned it's a complete separation from the business and what they can say to you and sometimes and they get to say whatever they got to say to you to continue to do good business. So once I learned that, I learned I had to do it was best for me and my brand, and all of the time was best for me and my brand on coincide with West Westlin to do at the time, And that's the reason why we parted up. And I ain't now Michael Black

for one time. This was one time, one time only I thought you went too far. Okay, what did I do? Money? First of all, this is called drip. You know what you need to do? Get that Just the one and the only time I felt like you went too far. And Money's gonna do with me. I'm watching you on the Brothers club, right, and this is with Kevin Hart. This is the first time I felt sorry for Kevin Hard, even though I knew he thought he's rich as rich

as ship. But then the first time, because you know, as a married man, I know that this they could be slip ups or something like that. I haven't had one, but I know that it can be slip ups. I know that none of us is perfect, right. I know that, come on, yea, I'm walking the very thin line. Listen. I know that none of us here put that back in head gotta they stay with ice. So I know that none of us is perfect. So I felt like comedians should have gave Kevin Hart the benefit of the doubt.

Nobody gets a break by the funds like you go opportunists, motherfucker. I know. I mean, I never made fun of keV cheating. I made front of keV snitching on himself, like, oh, keV when it happened, nobody knew yet, but you know, he tried to tell us in the head in advance. So I said, nigga, you're snitching yourself, don't. They had to put out the tap. It hasn't put up adnut

to it before. I guess he needed tip was coming out, so he tried to you know, tell us in advance, and it just the way he did it, it was funny to me, and nobody gets a break with me much. But too soon of a joke, like like, um, I mean if somebody dies in yet, you know, and besides that, man, I don't so I don't the gator. That's what definite no no, I mean with me too soon like an hour later, MO, like what if your homie, what if

your homies on Instagram getting knocked out? This is your homie? Okay, Um are you supposed to call him and be like, yo, you're about to make a joke on you or you just go in? You know what he paid? If you guys communicate on the regular. Me and keV, yeah, we're a cool bit. We don't like, we don't like talk on the regular at that moment. At that point, we wasn't talking to the regular, So I mean I probably if I was, it was somebody I was talking to

the regular. You know, I probably did that call it you know, my to light your ass up and be prepared. But we don't really commedic on the regular. So I just said, you know, I just went in and just did Kevin call you and be like, damn, bro, I couldn't give me the past. No, no he didn't. If they called me, I'll probably get my pass because I just can't have a problem with this fair game. I didn't think he had a problem with it. I saw it on the Breakfast Club. You know, I just thought,

he I'm just you know, I'm just being a comedian. Yea. I saw club to you know, yeah, thought you went too. His reaction to was like, oh sho, damn, because I thought, you know, I think comedians is like battle rappers. Like battle rappers have no feelings? Right or do y'all have feelings? Like when you're going and you're spinning against each other, like you know what I mean? Like they think about everybody make fun of him, even it's on friends. Did

they just have a bigger platform? So when I make fun of him, millions of people see it, and that's probably what I really But he come on, he comedian. He can't be sensitive and I'm not saying nothing could hurt my feelings. I got there. I got there, So now drama, we're gonna get into it right now. Oh, Drake smashed your girl? Jesus, what you're the way I supposed to saying Drake had sexual relations with the girl that was affiliated with you. All of a sudden, Meek

Phillyli artists winds up in Mean Street studios. He hears this reference of these other songs and scripmacys what's my man name ain't been around since? Now? All roads lad to DJ drama at that time, all roads they didn't lead to meet Mills, I said, Meek Mill saying how Meek mil got it? Roles led to that to you. So now, for lack of a better term, he was kind of quiet. You didn't really want to address it. I'd lightly touched on it at time, didn't hear I

didn't come to you. You never you never never never happened here, explain to the people. Have something like that goes because let me just tell you something, all right, let me let me shut up. First of all, off top of the way, you started saying Drake smashed my girl. My excrat me and Drake have shared women. Yea, yeah, I mean the conversation was about a particular female at the time. You know um is a great woman, honestly, and you know he knew where gears prior to me.

You know, me and her um hooked up and everything. But there's never any over she's light skin too right, she actually is. But me and him, that was never any discrepancy based upon like that situation had nothing to do with what wind up happening with me, Quentin Drake. It happened to mein Street Studios, which you mean heard

it he did, He did hit. So you can see how one could assume what else that became because it wasn't It wasn't overlapping situations, but that that was a narrative that like as if I had some ill intentions.

I never had any ill intentions, you know. Honestly, like looking back on the situation, I think all of us, myself included, could have handled it in a different manner, you know, I think there were all of us as individuals, myself met Quentin Drake, you know under that it wasn't handled properly, you know what I mean for it to even get into that that outcome per sec you know. So, but yeah, me didn't hear the mean street studios mean Street studio, which is your studios, you all our studio

and we were working with Quentin Miller at the time. Yea, and Quentin was Quentin played it for me. We didn't hear this part of the story for me. I just said that you got what can y. Quentin honestly took, you know, out of everybody in this scenario, I mean, he took the lass, he took the law. So you know, I mean, I know he seen Meek and Draking like what the fun y'are doing? Yeah, you know, out of everybody,

you know, he was, I mean, the kid was. The kid was honestly, you know, trying to make a living for himself and you know, doing dope work, and you know what I'm saying, and and through it all, you know, even through the narrative like I never you know, Drake's literally you know, it's it's one in two conversations between him and hold to me personally. So you know, even with the Quentin Miller references, that doesn't take away from any of his greatness per se. So, but he was

being petty at that time. I wasn't. I mean, you know, honestly, some of the way it really happened with the man was that I was trying to I was trying to clarify something for me at the time, and you know, he thought something and you know, I went against my better judgment and by telling him something that honestly, yeah, like explaining to him, listen, it's not what you're thinking is, you know, and then me winning handled it the way he chose to handle it. But that wasn't that wasn't

my handling. But I caught a lot of rap for it, you know, And I stayed quiet because I did catch a lot of rap for it, and I felt like I had caught a lot of bad rap. But you know, I definitely played a role in it, you know what I'm saying. I'm not I'm not innocent of the situation, but it's part of it is a petty side, like it's cool to be petty. Honestly, if it wasn't, I would tell you, But it really wasn't Like I never

wanted none of that to go down, you know. I mean, in hindsight, it was an incredible battle for hip hop, So you know, I guess, you know, and those guys have since, you know, become friends again, and you know what I mean, we can look at it as part of hip hop history. But you know, so those shots too they get these shots too. It So the famous battle with you, Cassidy was with free Ray right, you know, got to be it right, really great talk to that, Cassidy.

You know you have to be a writer to be a dope MC did you said it don't matter that he has dead with j D facts even if he don't, right, you could be a dope rapper. I mean, I think that's what we're talking about. Somebody who doesn't literally write raps. But that's not a discussion when that comes to him. I don't think the comedian be adult comedian if you don't write no jokes, that's possible. I mean, it's a lot of great guys out there that, if you look at,

don't write no jokes at all. I mean, you gotta write some jokes and at the end of day, you still have to deliver that joke. You have to make it into your own way, you know, so you could be I mean, I was watching one of my favorite comedic of all time is Eddie and Uh and I watched Brow and Deliverous and I see Kennan Ivy wayins right and by those guys. So Eddie to me is like great, I've seen Kenyan aber Brains and Robert down Robert Robert Thomson. Yeah, but I thought there's like directors

directed it. I think Kenny did some writing, alright, Yeah, I'm hard and sure, Eddie, Eddie, the way you come, you get a certain part of your career were just extremely busy. You gotta get you know, there's not ee hiring writers. I mean, I'm yet to do it. I write my own ship, you know. Um, But you know, if I was throwing out specials every to three years, then you gotta write because as a comedian, we don't.

You could write a material it's good for three years, you go suck around the country for three years the same material and then you know, every three but if you're putting ship out every year every two years, then you gotta gotta get some help. Let's take the shot shot shot. What I think was some like alien type of comedian, right, that could put in more work than that all that work you're talking about, right, they do more all of that ship than you're talking about. And

still writers own ship and don't need no writers. I mean he should be he should be like he should get some type of acknowledge definitely about Louie people's career and we said, loui'all care come on that that makes some No you ever got a post to write for MC that you was like, what the fund? Get out of here? Yeah? Really on in my career, I went to Collie and Swiss the first time I've seen Holly Berry two years waiting outside. Don't tell Holly berriers involved.

I've never had a holly Berry story or drink. Chaps got damn, let's do that Hollyberry. Sure, come on, let's do it. Did she have on cherries? Let's feel like she just came out and cherries? Yeah, you know, I can't now. It is always a Hollyberry fan. And when I first see sorry, you gotta remember every moment when you've seen Holly Berry. She was like, this is not Keisha from Wall Bounds. This is holly Berry. Remember, come on, I don't remember exactly. This is okay, remember what you remember?

Tell us what happened? You see holly Berry Like me in the truck right the driver Nigger Swiss, Homy Swiss. Like in the passenger side, I'm in the back of the truck behind the driver and ma shan that like in the other side, like behind Swiss, I think, and I just remember how they burry walking pass and they just called everybody of guards. So when Swiss looked over and see it, he's like, what the fun? I think he said something like what the funk? Who was that?

Something crazy like that he said in front of ma Shan that then once he said that the driver seen that, he just jumped out the car. He just ran upstairs to his room to get his camera. On the way he went, it was like a crazy situation, and I'm just like fucked up. But I was a young boy. I wasn't even established yet. I wasn't even dressed yet. I wasn't even rice down. I wasn't even and I was a young boy. I ain't wanted to meet me.

I'm like, first impression is everything. So I was looking at it, but I didn't want to meet every monster ball was a how you berry imbaps? What time? When does that happen? That's when she won the glow baps is when she was coming. I wasn't the back. It wasn't the baps, Holly. She was like at a at the baddest point, she looked like like had she been looking when she had the baddest point in one of

the movies. She came out there was crazy and she was walking and I remember she had in some pants and she was by so To and she like walked to the edge of the hotel and the car poured down, and then she ran into the car and jumped in and oh dog, some look for Hollyberry story. I wanted every battles, I said it earlier. I think I think you cut yourself off. Was you went freeway? Yeah? Like what was that? What was that? Rocket? Fellow verse Rough Roders.

It was always that type of energy between them. So one day I was in the studio with Swiss. It wasn't Mary J. Blige song and Swiss was rapping. Swiss did the beat and jay Z was rapping on it. But they had did it like a minute ago. So she wanted them to update the song, Swiss to update the beat, jay Z to change the verse around a little bit. So she set a possession for them to come through and do that. Me and Swiss get there first, and while we're in there, he fucking with the beat.

I get hungry, so I told Swiss driver to take me to McDonald's and ship and while I'm while I'm wanting McDonald's um the whole rocket Fellow on Hat Night seven. It's that legendary freestyle they had when they was going crazy on the radio. They talked about they want to battle niggas and all that, and I felt like they was talking about me because I was active at that time, even though they wasn't. I just felt like they was. And jay Z like Yo Nigga said they wanted to

call up in battle. Guess how much they said. They wanted to bet a thousand dollars holler talking crazy the niggas that wanted best small money and all that. So I just feel like I just feel personal about this. And when I get back to the front of McDonald's, I tell Swiss about it and he like, oh, what's school jay Z coming to the studio tonight, anyway to redo this verse. So I started just sitting on the couch thinking about the met jay Z for the first time I've been was a fan. So I'm just happy

coming through. But also I'm thinking about these young boys he got and when he comes through the studio, he'd come by myself with no state property. You know what I'm saying, each other's state property. I just feel like everybody can fully know each other, like it go to a big conversation at some point, like everybody. I was fucked up. I thought all State property was like a team. The all like a team. But you know, they put

them niggas together, so they barely knew each other. So I ran into a few niggers and state property, you know what I'm saying that Before that, Actually I ran in the beans one time. He was gonna put me on the record. He was a fan because I was like running this radio show with my city and he was a fan. So when he met me, he wanted to put me on the record that I pissed on your grave, I shoot on your tumb consider your doom. But that's how I knew being So I met him

before that time. But Jeez didn't tell him it was me. He didn't say I got the ball be from Philly the ball, Cassidy. He just said, I got this nigger in the studio talking crazy. I need you to come through the studio and do this nicket dirty like that. He didn't explain to him who it was, so they you know it's Philly, Philly Crome. Nah, So you know Swiss pick up the phone. He started calling Nigga's rough riders right down the street at the other studios. So

they start showing up. That's how niggas come with the cameras and all that. And then a little bit after that, the door kick get kicked open, boom, and I had it's Matt, Bitch and Mac come in the room and Niggas is behind the most scheme, no Chris Freeway. They are with him, and that niggas start coming in the room and he looking around like this and be babies beans looking around that niggas and then he see me on the couch. He like, oh shit, be for in

Philly because he knows how I give it up. He like, oh ship for Philly and he shake my hand and I'm saying, that's how that ship went. And then jay Z like, now who you say you wanted the battle? Like, man, I ain't saying wanted the battle. None of these niggas. I killed any of these niggas. I don't get who you pick. Then Nigga starts saying free and free, Free and free. That's all I remember Nigga saying free. And now that was the afterwards, I'm like why they picked Free.

I think they's gonna pick a different nigger. You knew him now, but I heard him like from the city. They like state property. They was already like down with jay Z and already putting out ships. So I heard his music and I heard that he had that like rod the beat type of float in the nnut rhine pattern and the ship sound dope on beat. But in battle rap, I know it wasn't gonna register, right, So I don't think they should have picked them, but they did,

and that's how that ship went down. I just was representing my team Rough Riders at the time because that's what you was signed that brand because jay Z was super disrespecting me, like I didn't give it up. So that's how that's how he was already signed. This got you sign now I was signed. I was signed to Swiss.

That's why I was in the studio with Swiss while he was working on the Soon had a budget loop about it, like, yeah, like you could have lost your deal if you would have lost that, that's kind of crazy, man, for sure. That's crazy man. Well, God bless you from winning that one. Um you ever received slack from that from Freeway, Like Freeway. Ever one of the part two he ever seen you late night in South Street and was like, what's going on? And Free We actually did

records after that. Um ran into each other a lot of times after that, like I fun with Free. Free was just Ryan for his team at the time. They called out his name. They put him in a position. They didn't know what type of the god was or what they was dealing with. It was like a misunderstanding that they put him in. And you know what I'm saying, you know how that ship go. He just wasn't prepared us. He just was on the radio giving it up, spitting

all them verses. So you know what I'm saying that to take them right off the radio and put him in front of a nigger like me, it wasn't a good scenario. So Um, I've seen Free and he said, Nigga still remind him about it to this day, like down let it die. They keep bringing it up everywhere he goes. He constantly hear about it. But you know, Free of good niggas, so him whole new grudges and ship.

I actually ran in the Dame. I was working with Dame and Dane was telling me like yo, if I was there, you know what I'm saying, that ship would never went down. We had budgets opened up for this nigga. We was working on this album while put him in the battle at that time. Man, I told that nigga, you know want want want me before you cast I told that nig he gotta come at you. I told that nigga, Man fun that you go at this nigga.

Now you gotta and free, ain't I mean I ain't never had free do it, So I guess free and want to do it like. That's the reason why we stopped working with him. The same way. So the same way you said I could have get you, I could have got drunk. It affected a lot of ship that could have happened in freeway career. But that's how badder Rap used to be back in the day that she

used to be real. It's comedy like that. You guys like have a comedy off to the backstage, you remember, you know, um Philly, I mean, of course me cav. I mean whenever comedics get together, man, just be ready because you don't know who's gonna go at who just start. Just just pick a nigger and just go on him. Because now you might be the negative won pick you know what I mean. So it's like that, but it

ain't nothing. I mean, that was probably the social media way she like for wookies like rookies and like each other, you know, like I mean, Philly was not a really a big platform for comedy, so a lot of us took a lot of trips to New York. So you know, so we'll go then we'll you know, comics. We just we see each other. We just talk roasting. I mean back in the day with comedians like talent and like Rob Staple team, you know, can we all get together and we just just like starting each other up to

just be ready because you never know. But it wasn't nothing that's gonna up your career, not like these guys you know, rap your stage, you get blud on stage. Jokes about me and during the Drake Show, yeah, I get everybody man, nobody. Most of the joke about meet with Meek in the picture drinking. Yeah that did something like real ship. Some ship is the first time. I mean, yes, you know what I looked at. No, not that one

was a big mistake. My ex that was my ex, No, no, no, And I never talked about it because I never want to blame blame blanishing on my girl at that time, you know, but it was my ex did that dumb ship at that time, like Meek at the end of the end, hold me and I knew what he was going through. And I mean, I mean, I'll do certain jokes, but no, I'm the type will do a joke, but not a joke that I want to shoot you over.

I'll do a joke out. I'm if my goal is if I climbed somebody, my goal is to make that person laugh. That person, yeah, the person I'm climbing on that Like I make jokes about I make gauge you, but my gage will make a gay personal laugh. I'm not gonna you know what I mean, make im want to go and try to cancel. Michael Blackson, I mean did about me and that movie we did Coney Montana. That's what we've seen you did with the cops about

me and all that you did. I'll watch you, man, So let me tell this story, right were um, so we just we did a benefit me Meek, we did a benefit and then why was I took a picture together? So why I was going home I'm driving. I told my grad. I said, there's a picture, to put this caption on this picture. I said, put on damn my fun guy exactly. But the caption I said, it was something like, um me, uh, Nikki's boyfriend something something light. Nothing's crazy, like I don't call him me. I won't

come like Nikki's boyfriend or something. Right, I said, put that and put that in the caption this I think you said, we're all told girl to or something like that. No, no, it was not this. Not my grad at that time was a savage. You know what I mean. This is all writers. You sing a songwriter. This chick was a real savage and for some reason, she never, for some reason ever like me. I don't know why, but she wrote the most savage thing on there, and I had

no clue. I'm driving right next thing. No, I'm getting text from like mixed goons like yea, what the fund is that about? I'm know what you're talking about. I looked, I'm bitch with your post. She went't real hard, so you know what I mean, And we had to squash all that. But yeah, but that that one didn't come from me, like I said, I'll go hard but I'll go hard enough with not hard enough. I'll go hard that the person I joked about laugh and then if me get laugh at what I'm saying about him, then

I'm not gonna do it. Especially if it's my homie, Well, I'll dropma. I was just hanging out with Gilly. Gilly said it was a tub well, cash money. You know what I'm going I'll give you the tough questions where I'm getting easy. It's not even it's not gonna be put it in to Gilles. This is the first time I said God, I said, listen, Jilly, I'm gonna be honest. I never thought I don't need cash. Monday's black I never thought that was remotely true. He said it on

the show that they were black balling. Yeah. I told him, you believe it in the show and he said, you guys, d J Drama. DJ Drama just did my show. He said, we actually induced uh something. You said, Yo, you know what. I'm stand by it. But he said that Wayne called you and said you can leave him on there, leave him on the show. But just no, you'll never have another Wayne versus ev in your life. You know, I love you nor but I respect I just had his

convo with Gilly. You know, it's like it's like a mix tape, so that's exclusive, but you can't give you exclusive twice. I gotta that is crazy though, So I actually existed, but I can't call that black ball. Yeah, that's a form of black If I called with the label, if I called with the management, if I caught with the higher ups, that could just be an artist be insensitive but sensitive mother flippers facts. It could be just be an artist sensitive. That artist might not necessarily have

that power. That was the one on one conversation. I will say that, So it wasn't it. You know, Gilly has his own take on black ball. I was not part of the black ball per se. Yeah, and Wayne talked, let's you'll be black ball and black ball where you got everybody black ball niggas That down't like it's just

all about the policies. What do you think black that you're willing to use it on, Like how much you don't funk with that nigga, how much you're getting on your nerves, and how much you're willing to move forward with it and deal with it. But everybody black ball nigga drama drama, drama, fucking with this artist. I don't focus this artist. I tell the drum, I don't want to be on that side of the tape. I don't look at that as black ball. Yeah, I don't necessarily

look at that as black ball. But now if I say I'm never giving you nothing ever again, say I can say skip that tape and cast me on the next tape. As simple as this, man, if you more powerful than whoever you said, you ain't knowing that tape. But if he put this nigga on there, and you got more leverage, more fan base, and more control over what's going on, and you say that, then you're black balling that nigga. Now, if he's just as powerful or more powerful than you when you say that, then you

can't do it. And nigga gonna be like, he's probably going side with that nigga more than you. You're gonna have to fight and yell and scream and it still might not get done. If the nigga more powerful than you, So you can't black baller nigga that got just as much leverage and more powerful than you. But a little nigga and you got all this leverage and niggas. They might not even they might not even doing business with you. They might just think in the future, the little Nile

Violet with the little nigga actually did do something. Now do the didn't do something? And I say, I ain't working with that tape. If he's on there, then I'm wrong. Actually that is called volt and that is called hat. But what if the dude actually did something? And then Drama calls me and says, Yo yo, Nor, I know um you and your arms light is going through it. You know what I'm saying. I say it we Drama. You know that between me and him. You know what

I'm saying. I ain't gonna work with that now. Drama says, That's what I'm driving to say. You know what, this might affect me in Norm's relationship moving forward. Nor's not hating, but I'll tell you like this, Like I said, one time, I had somebody, uh Foxy Brown had this Puff on my record. So I went to see Puff because I wanted to keep my relationship, and Puff screamed on me

like what the fund is Rum? But I'm like, told us I could say the word I thought, so I said, all right, cool, So I'm not supposed to put out the record. He said, no, I get money, nigga, And I said, oh ship. He expressed his opinion, but he didn't let it get the way of business. Holy. Holy, That wasn't a hater. That wasn't that he expressed to me. I didn't like that. I didn't appreciate you let somebody

dissing me on your record. But at the same token, she is a great recommend But you also knew, you knew, you know what that was about, because you know what the man told me that to my face. You also said yourself, you had to you had to talk to Foxy about going back in, and like, do you know she did down her home. She actually dumbed down her verse on her own. You was there, right, and I believe she her first couple of verses was even worse. So I appreciate it. We do that with everybody concern

and Fox Me every situation that fox Me is. And then Puffy say get money to everybody? Or did he just do that only to you know I stepped to him. I didn't. I didn't wait for everybody has He might have told you to get money, but they might have been ten twenty of the Motherfucker's that affected my relationship with him. He might have said get money, but that might have been a trap for me to be like, yo, I ain't never going to funk with him again because I know he'll know I'm saying so. But I felt

like a man about it. Like I felt like a man when I stepped to him. I was just like, yo, bro, you know what I'm saying, like marm deep because really it's marm Deep and CNN and we're just putting the girls like the girls, the girls beef and that ain't gonna do with us. So let Kim and Foxy beef and that's ain't gonna do with us. But it's through

in the dude. But I didn't like, you know, I feel I feel like people in the like niggas always felt the type of way if it's they have a certain relationship and then you allow somebody to but there's somebody on your record, like you know, so now I understand, man, I understand is that like that the comedy people, somebody in your comedy showing and there's somebody you got them that you cannot give nobody the power to in your career. Man, in comedy, any anyway anything. I mean, comedy is to

be a successful comedian, you have to be likable. Once you become likable, man, it's so hard for one person to have the whole words shut you down, especially the era we're in where we control our own I have five million following words. Honestly, I don't need know fucking body. You know what I mean? Everyone, I got to tell jokes. I sat out. If I want to shoot a movie, I got five minute pole to buy it. You know, so in a whole different error right now. I mean,

look at it. Look at Cat Wims, cat on for to tell your kid smoke crack everything and anybody mean black boys, cat Ba Cat is so likable and so lovable. Cat go, I don't do a movie do whatever he wants. You can't, you know. I think the comedy is just a little different. And I'm going to stand with music because you guys, you know, I don't know how much you need each other to put you on or whatever the whole they work. But during the pandemic, you and

your girl but having the most fun. I ain't gonna front your apartment looks like this, not done grating my fucking crap. It's called house, follow your Instagram and your girl. Yeah, you know what prior to my girl, prior to us getting together. You know, when I broke on my egg to crazy Big Jo, what's got me? People to build my fucking off. When I broke up with her, I said to myself, you know, I'm done, no more relationship. I want to be free to do what I want.

And when I met her, you know, my new girl, she was definitely downe with what I was down. She said to support me and like, hey, Mike, I know what you're about. You know, I'll compromise with you. And she's be like the best friends right now, you know, so and check us out. Have a show on the VIA one coming out called Couples Retreat with the Nigger Hip brought me when it brought me in there for some comic relief, you know, I mean, so the show's coming on, not on love and hip hop that is

in there. You got a good chet, you know the coach. Which one me popping, y'all We're going to gold or we're gonna go We're gonna go to Big Boy? Which one were popping? Um, I ain't gonna a big Boy. Well, I don't know which one rose or do you want to go go Let's keep that unless you pop this one because because you know wild drama, I'm coming back to you. I'm coming back to the drama building up now. Okay, I got trut. I'm do it for you, brother. You

know this is this is for real Champagne Papa Rescue. Okay, it was a time, you know, I thought DJ Clue was getting and then case Slay and Envy, but they never quite had what you had. Like, I didn't realize how much against the grill mans. Let me let me take it from there. Okay, you take it from there. Okay, I didn't know how much against the grill meant cause I never had one slight shot. Slight shots hung up.

You don't want to say I'm sad that So at one point you it was like, whoa, that's okay, that's how How did it feel? Because I mean it's a I'm gonna keep it the one part question, how did it feel to just control the game and not only control the game, but there's people from New York, Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's people in New York their first time hearing jeez it, Stu, you that first time hearing t I. It's do you that first time getting acquainted with jeezy man, it's still

you and your work. How crazy was the games? I mean, just to put in a perspective and how did you come up with it? Originally? Like that concept it was John just screaming to your Mike. He was like, let's go simply. I mean even before that, you know again, like I think to put in a perspective like I'm I'm a nigger from Philly who who came up on S and S RONJ and do clueing dji now saying like back of his hands, jumping up of my early influences.

So when I when I got to Atlanta, not when I got to Atlanta, but after I was in Atlanta for some years and I was you know, I used to, um, what were the Atlanta guys doing the mix tapes out there? And there was Jelly, it was DJ Jelly, it was Marte Um, it was Mars doing Yeah, Mars was doing tapes. Um Uh. Edward j he was the you know, he he's like the o G the LEGIOND in Atlanta per se.

So when I when I got there, like Big Jelly and Mante was killing ship and the style that I was really using to make Gangster Girls because basically, I mean I was. I used to sell the CDs myself, so I'd have up North tape. I had like an eclectic R and B tape. I had a reggae mix tape. I had anything you needed. I had this this thing is that known me from just doing reggae parties back in the day. Like so we used to do reggae parties too, Sonig is doing reggae parties. Let me do

Let's make the noise for that man. My man lady says it is. DJs looked the same. So Gangster Girls as as a concept was like you know, it was just it was a South CD that I you know what I mean. I needed to have something for everybody. As I was paying attention to the mixtape game in the direction that it was going in, my influences was coming pretty much from what was happening up top, you know what I'm saying. So and people weren't applying South

music to that formula. And niggas told me, that's not when niggas on the South want to hear. I didn't want to hear talking on the tape. They don't want to hear exclusives. They don't want to hear new ship and everything. And I went totally against the grain and did all that that they said niggas didn't want to hear. And that's how Gangster Girls was pretty much creative. Little John being the voice was the first host because I was paying attention to people doing host and what what

have you. So around the time when you know a link with Tip and you know t I, you know, literally he's the first. You know, Gangster Girls became a street album because of TI I us linking up and you know that being the first body Troc it was talking that they want for the first time, I met name and told me he was the king of the South. They want you know what I'm saying, Blessing, he knew what you said there is what made Gangster Girls different.

They became street albums that changed mixtape game right there. I think it did that. And you know, I'm I'm from the Gangster Grills. Is the the post fifty and dip set per se. So I was I was following that formula that sets you know what I mean. And you know, like with all due respect to all the legends that you name. I think when it's when it's all said and done, there can be conversations about who the best mixtape DJ of all time is. I'm still

probably that guy, but that could be argued people. You know, I know New York City, like y'all is gonna argue that to the to the death. And I get that. You know, my fans are gonna argue it, and that's fine. We can. I'm open to the conversation. And you said, that's that's next take DJ of all time. I ain't gonna lie. According to the FED, you are fairly DJ. And the way I was terrorized in the city, man, we mean like Gangster Grills, though beyond that is the

most important and impactful mixtape series of all time. That can't be argument That can't be arguing, and you can't tell me. I think it's the biggest, it's the most important. I don't think I'm gonna argue that, especially for breaking the artist even before that, and then it became because even the artists, Yeah, I mean, people was doubling back and coming back around, and I was doing them with some of the biggest names in the game, Like I mean, don't you got for real? Do I've won for real.

It's crazy, but that is that is so because I don't want to struggle back to this, So let's just get it all out. What was you think? Let's just be clear. Did you think the label snitch sting you? No, I don't think the labels snitched on but the labels still label money. I respect that the rs used to lead us the records, but the higher ups and the lawyers used to send the season to see. He's right about that. They definitely did that. I mean I think it was. I think the labels weren't all on the

same page. It because the legal department and wasn't in tune with the marketing department per se. Because that was the actual problem was there were certain people that's buying more gains the grills than they was buying actual artist albums, right, I mean, I don't, It wasn't. I didn't see it as a problem. Didn't look we see it as a problem.

You're saying the money we were seeing you just had suits looking at it is copyright and f and it was to the people out to leave the A and rs that were at the street level that that's how they were breaking all the artists that we're making in their money. But you know, I always was I felt

like I was in cahoots with the labels like it was. Yeah, So I was like, you know, I'm I'm not you know, there were people out there that were leaking music, sick and putting tapes out there like that wasn't my repertoire. So um, but yeah, I don't, you know, I looked at it like when the Beds came as a joker. Yeah, I didn't. I didn't think that this was your homies like massed up playing around Halloween. You didn't know what happened to do it out here my years before that,

I heard you talk about that on the show. He was the first one, but he was the mix tape distributor got you. You probably might have done him at some point, but he was one of the biggest ones. And that's a little different. It's a little different than that. And there were other like people that probably went down for like bootlegging and stuff, But that was I was that who seeing case, seeing m vs, seeing yours but not knowing the impact of it, as if that like

what did you think when when? What was it? They don't because the parts don't give you a warning, right, they don't just coming. What happened? They came, you know, with the fucking M sixteens. They came. They came like we had some ship. They wasn't looking for mixtapes. The first thing they said that when they went in that studio, where is it at? Tell us where it's had. It's gonna be easier on all y'all because you were sticking in cocaine. They thought, where are the guns and the drugs?

That let us know. They didn't find nothing, bro, not a joint, not a non millimeter, and all you say, I'm an mixtape DJ, and like you know you're illegal, say well when I when they first looking back on it, I'm shocked at how calm I was, because they had the M sixteen pointed at me. I walked outside and moved my car, and I remember because you know, somebody called me and was like, yo, just let you know they're coming over. Idea. No, but I had a warning

like maybe thirty minutes. This is a law enforcement guy. Somebody had a relative and law enforcement and they said, yo, we just got word because that was Tiya's old studio. So you know, um, you set them up with the guns, not just playing come on later that year that that's that hadn't happened yet. Atlantis. Look this ship is hot.

They came. So they came. I remember just you know, getting on the ground thinking, okay, once we figured this out everything, they asked for my ID and then I hear him go over to you know the things we got one of the purps and I'm like, what, like, they tell me my name is Tamium. They said, Tarry Simmons, you you're under arrest for bootlegging and racketeering under the Rico law. And come out did they freeze asset? Because that's what they didn't do it out here? What I

would check my band. I didn't know about the RecA at the time. I know that it's a type when hit me with the RecA the next day when I went to I got out. The next day, my nigger. I went to my bank account, that ship said zero point zero zero. Yeah, oh, but they let you out the next day, let me out the next day, Yeah, next that Jesus. I mean, but know in hindsight, like you know, the game was changing. I think I think looking back on it, like the the music industry was

taking a hit, you know what I'm saying. That charged for a mixtape. Yeah, I was charging labels. No, no, I mean like officially now, which I mean, oh yeah,

I mean look where it's at now. I mean it's it's bigger, but it became bigger business than ever even after that, you know, and and and speaking on that too, like you know, one of the things for me, like was that, you know, I felt a little guilty after that, you know, just in a sense of like, you know, not even you know, not even in the like there were conversations about how much money I was getting, or if I was doing it right or wrong, or you know,

those beyond that, like this is a culture that I grew up loving and like, you know, like had a passion to too, listening to Clue like play everywhere in the streets of Philly and what have you so for me to become the top of the food chain and for this to happen, and you know, at the time, you know, if I'll tell you, like people the mixtape game was like, oh ship, we gotta chill out. They came from drama, like nobody's safe, you know what I'm saying.

And I was like Damn, I can't. I can't let you realize how big the top he was, how much of a shark, or where all you were in the hindsight, I mean, it made me even bigger. But you felt you were like a scapegoat. That's what I felt like. I didn't want I couldn't a lot. I didn't want to see a culture down on my shoulders and I'd be to blame for it, like there was nothing like you said, and and the you know, the streaming ship like Napster and all that's happening at the same time,

so they used mixtape DJs. Now, this is escapegoat. This is why we're losing money when it's not the case. We're helping, at least within the world of hip hop, we're helping. And then you know it's the I R double A like these. The same thing is that semi plaux like what y'all y'all includes with them to lock me up, like saying I'm doing something wrong. I'm helping you make millions and billions. Cassidy, you had the controversial

with had a couple of controversion things. But one of the things is um in the middle of your you know, highlight of your career, this murder case happens? What what? What was that about? You talk about the parts that you can't talk about. You you don't have to talk about anything, but you can't talk about what? Like what was your mind like at that? You got a record there? You know what I mean? Lest this happens. Yeah, I came right before my second album drop I'm a hustler.

Um hm. The single was out, the video was out, but the album didn't drop yet. That's when I realized I had a warrant. I had to turn myself finger when my lawyer's turned myself finished it. But I'm thinking I'm gonna be able to bail out, like I had a lot of support at that time, had the machine behind me. They was ready to push me. So I'm thinking I'm a bell out. But I actually went to my first court date. I didn't have a preliminary yet.

They pushed the preliminary back, but the judge gave me a bell for five hundred thousand, and I thought I was going to that out that time. But the d A like they went in the pill this ship and say, yo, you can't do that. As illegal to do that. He ain't even have a preliminary hearing yet to determine what he charging them with, so how can you give him bell? So they had the appell that bell, and I had to wait till I have my preliminary hearing. Once I

had my preliminary hearing, they gave me a bell. They gave me a two million dollar bell for the murder and two hundred thousand for each attempt So it came to like two point oh no, two point five million for the murder and two hundred thousand a piece for the attempts, so I think came at two point nine or something like that. But they said they got thirty days. I got thirty days the weight. I gotta wait. The d A got thirty days the appellar before I could

pay it and get out. So my label and the people behind me was ready to pay it, you know what I'm saying. But on the thirtieth day, that's when the d A appelled it. Then we went back to court and they said they were charging me with the general murder then and then fully, you can't battle out for that. So I had to sit in court until trout and that's the reason why I was locked up

by come promote down the Hustle album. It was the first platinum ring tone and ship was going crazy and they had it like a nice crazy promo run for me to make it even more of a movie. But I wasn't really there to execute. And um this is before like the social media days like nowa days. If that would have happened, it probably would have been more beneficial for the song was going on. Yeah, but back then, no social media, it was hard for people to understand

what was going on. They ain't fully understand the story, and that kind of affected how big that project would have been. That's crazy some that because most of rappers that get hard of its old. You know what I'm saying, These people trying to invade your crib like pop smoke. This is something like that. Um nah. Um. Well, the situation actually happened with the murder. I was with some other friends, some other people you know, a R and them. They was with me, you know what I'm saying, And

a situation happened when I went in the store. One of the homies gone to a confrontation with another nigga. Another nigga start choking the nigga. Right, I've never seen no ship like this neither. Like I've seen niggas go up punch niggas. I've seen niggas go up and kick niggas. I've seen even niggas running up and drop kick niggas before, but I've never seen a nigga like running up to a nigga and just start choking, like in my whole fucking entire life, like like like he knew he was

doing some I'm a fan of. I know. It's like a long story to go back. Like I was having a private party for my album releasing Philly Right, and there was a hotel party. So one of the niggas sneak upstairs that we had security blocking niggers from even coming on that floor because it was so crazy. One of the nigga get upstairs and one of my homies like, Yo, what the funk you doing up here? Get the funk

out what you're doing? So everybody else, you know, zone and doing them, But he like, what the fund is you doing in here, nigga, Get the funk out. It's only grows niggas in this room. Get the funk out, right, So he played the negative nigga feeling embarrassed, I don't really want to get out, but he got to, you know what I'm saying. Then my big brother is too much commotion, so he jumped out, Man, what the funk get?

I mean, like, yeah, I gotta stop this ship. So the next time we see the niggas at this store, like at this uh wal mart or whatever. The next time we see the neggator had to get out. And I'm with the neiggat that told him to get out. So I guess he got so much emotions from being embarrassed at that time that he just come up to the nigga. He just started choking the nigga, like you know what I'm saying. So he choking him and they're like choking them with his hands. But the niggas are

and them, they wasn't at the party. They don't know the nigga. I don't know what's going on. They just with the nigga that he's choking. So they get him up off of them, you know what I'm saying. They ain't really beat him up because I told him not to. I know the nigga, you know what I'm saying. But they got him up off the nigga or whatever, and when we get back around that when we drive off,

that's when the conversation happened. Nigga start calling my phone thinking we rolled on their man, when I really saved their man life. And that's how the issue happened. But people think it was like somebody trying to run down on me, like I was trying to get robbed or somebody was about to come kill me and a r saved my life. No, that was the issue that day was going through. Day was in the situation, and I gave them the guns because they was acting like they

were shooters. So if y'all got guns, then and your shooters, everybody comfortable. And when I gave them guns, that's how the whole situation went wrong, and niggas got shot and all that, and I got snitched on it too, like I was a shooter, you know what I'm saying. So that's how I went to jail for murder. But there was nobody defending me. Wasn't nothing happened to me. It

wasn't even an issue with me. I was doing music, about to go to New York and record, and the niggas that I was got in the situation, and then when they got locked up. They told on me, and that's how I got a warrant issue out from my arrest. They said I was a shooter and just that statement Alan was enough to lock the wrapper up because that's what they really want me. So the bigger that got chicken and never died. I never died, nothing ever happened.

He's still, you know, in the world. Make it to the hotel party. How was it working with all Kelly, Let's just be clear, I mean it was back then. How was it? I mean, how to dope? How is your discrepancy with Swiss? Because I remember weird on the phone before. You know, we were friends, man, we were back in the day before. There's many descripacies Swiss, Swiss is Swiss is my brother, many descriptions to be Virgo. So you know I clash, you know, um d L crime.

It happens a lot um. Yeah, it's been a couple of times Ship I had to describe my SHEP was Swiss. Recently Swiss was on here and we spoke about his his problem with Drake and he edited me. He told me he wanted to me to edit him and I we don't edit at all. And I edited him and I was mad at the Ship because I felt like

he had spoke articulate. I felt like he he didn't do what he did on the on his Instagram live when he went at Drake, I'm saying, and I wouldn't to put Swiss in um harm's way because Drake had just called us and was like, yo, we're coming down, Like I'm coming down, so he was ready to do a drink chat. So I wouldn't let's Swiss go crazy. You know what I'm saying. I actually would have, you know, for a lack of a better term, tamed him, like I wouldn't have edit it, but I tamed him, so

I did. And then he's like, nah, he called me. He was like, yo, you know, editor ship man, you know what I'm saying. And I was like, all right, because I don't like editing. I don't like editing myself. I say something stupid like I'm like, fucking just let me, let me, let me just go through the stupid. Yeah, you look stupid all the time, So I don't. I don't. I don't mind at all. But I was kind of mad, like that's that's that's that's the reason. But um, you know,

that's what I noticed in this game. If you're gonna be around people, you're gonna spind things that that you love with them, and you're gonna find things that you you know, I don't want to use the word hate, but you dislike of them, you know what I mean. But that doesn't make you just friends. It's it's just been a whole bunch of ships. The same thing with Forrell,

Like I know Frell twenty two years. Frell at one point was doing country music and he told me I'm doing country music And I said, what another super Doug Me like, I need another whole boy like you know. But it happens, man, and um, you know, through the grace of I want to say God, and through the grace of you know, just think that it's been times when you called me you already on some ship and tell me one of the times, I don't know, I was going I was about to go crazy on me.

I mean, my I can't believe this, niggad. I've been crazy on this nigga. And you're calling me. You're checking in you got yo, what's up? Man? You're checking my temperature. You're trying to see if it's just rappid it's so serious, serious giving me all the advice that you need me You who g I needed to relax. I don't need to take it past this level. You've always been giving me good advice to calm down. One time I talked to you when you was talking about Swiss and it

was in reverse. I was trying to calm you. It's going crazy. I'm like, yo, glorious about to go crazy, and what's going on, my bro? That is happening. I could imagine that. It get crazy at times. And there's times like he wasn't we wasn't communicating, we wasn't speakers, or it's not like I could really tap in you, the one tapping in you. The niggad as reaching out tapping that and I'm not I'm not talking to him.

So when you're coming from but it's at the same time, it's like, damn, like I'm between the rock and office and I'm trying to calm you down. You're like, man, God, that's my brother though, that's my I expect that, man. I expect me being mad though, And I ain't denying you at all. It's the drink Champs Mary. Everybody ain't that at all because saying that went through more of a discrepancy than me and me and him, like I wasn't even on that tip like how you was with him.

I never got that that tip. It's just over business, like you know what I'm saying that it's a miscommunication and a lot of niggas that's that came out around my time, even before me, wetulars arguing going through ship about them being locked in contracts and the predicaments and they only getting a little bit of money publishing every year. They wish they could get out of contracts that they've

been signed when they was kids. So niggas is trying to get out of these contracts because they know they're not right and they're stuck in them. And because I was able to niggas think it's a discrepancy, I did something wrong. Now, I did that what was best for my brand at the time, yea. And that's why I've been moving independent like this for the last fitteen years. Niggas can't really control me sound as me. I don't really get caught up in the loop. I don't really

gotta please nobody. I don't gotta laugh and smile. I don't got to do nothing that Michael Blacks to call me for a movie. I could do it, like you know what I'm saying. I could call you be like, yeah, I want to put together a drink, chance to get it popping. It might not be in his best interest because I don't got the machine behind me, But I could do whatever I want to do at any given

the time. And that's why I appreciate coming on this platform because it's roll for me and my brand now for nobody else, and nothing those niggas got going on, it's all for with me and my team got going on. And that's why I appreciate this situation more than ever. It might take a longer. I know you love the machines. It's easy, it's easy. Is it easier? Easy? It's a harder fight like that. It's a hard a fight like this.

But I want once you once you go through the fight and you get the knockout or you get there, you win by decision, and you go through that fight and then you win, and then you like untouchable. It's nothing nobody could do to you, and there's nothing nobody could compare to you. And then the same amount of money gonna open up for you. It's just gonna take a little longer time. So you know how that being a network where you're like being on Instagram that I

like doing my own thing. The thing about the industry, then step up to me till every bit up what seven years ago? Money I've been telling jokes for five years. The only come to you when they know they could make money on you. You know, when I got to the point where I could make my own money, I might. I don't why you get what. I'm the biggest movie that's coming out next week. You gotta love this stuff

and that to come out that week. Start nigger. Like earlier on in the Drink Chance, he said something about Eddie Murphy a piece of the fact that he had a little writer. He's like, Yo, that's my nigga, eat the most creative, and they gotta let that nigga. I'm saying, I love it. But you understand why he was doing that. It was laid on and this this please up to our second. You're ready quick time with slip ready now this as you pick one and look, if you want

to pick both, you gotta take a shot. So bring bring a shot. I was sat I've seen this so many times. Just two days ago, it was actually it was actually sim sim Thug actually is the I love well. I came up with the rule you the both, but slim Thug was actually even when I said, if you're gonna do both, you gotta you gotta drink. And then we said that will be the grab one of the balls, and everybody got they shot glass right? All right, cool, you take a shot, take a shot if you want to.

If you want to say both, he's gonna give you two options to pick one of of two. If you want to say both, you gotta take a shot. All right, cool, because it's gonna be like you know, you're ready, I'm first, you first. I want to take a shot, even without being asked to credit. Let me just take a shot anyway. I just want to take a shot. Meet for me. I don't take a shot, but get the shot ready for for these negroes. All right, cool, hold on, hold on,

it's gonna be hard. He's starting with Michael Blacksby ready. You said, Hold up, I just want to shot anyway, just want to shot anyway. You win you into a right, let's go, Let's go, baby, I'll take a shot. You take a shot, Richard, give me one ready, or Eddie Murphy. Definitely Eddie Murphy. Damn that I thought that, Yeah too easy. I ain't think that. Let them take that, Richard. Richard admitted to sucking a dick. I couldn't roll with any

Damn who the fucking up front? Man? I was expected, all right, pacity a little bit of dude shake Bedie Seagull or Jade Kiss. M hm, take a shot about Jade Kiss. That's not personal, right, This is like bars back to me, who I pick? Who? Who I would pick? Brandon? Alright, all right? He discovered this is payback this lot. Beans ain't kiss both, like, I gotta go with Kiss or Drake. He said, back to Philly, you just remember that. That's fine.

I guess he's trying to throw a Philly nigger in the conversation over the other with the city over a different nigga, Nas or jay Z. I'm not gonna ask why this time Nas I did while songs were nas not sure wild love to meet Kings to studio, fun with me and he got eat out. So I gotta go with naj Kevin Hart Will Smith. What a combination the same category? I think it's gonna say like Kevin Hard, like that's what I was suspected. Okay, you probably you

might want to do that. Don't want anybody you want to Kevin Hart or Mike Apps? Has you even started working with these questions? I gotta go with Apps because I made more money with Apps and y'all did the Friday and Ship. We're tour together right now. We're to Yeah, we've been touring for like a few years together. So it's what you know what I mean made the question himself comedian, who's a better comedian? I mean it is more sillier to me, you know, like silly motherfucker's Kevis

my nigga. He's talented and he's business minding. He's a great guy. But I gotta I gotta go to silly nigga. Good you ready? Beat Mail or pet Crack Meet Mail, p d Crack. I funk with pd He originated that style. You gotta give him love. But he just not active enough. He's not he's not working hard enough. He's not he's not active enough for me, like especially in the last ten years. Like you know what I'm saying that Meek

Men too too active. The last ten years that you know what I'm saying for me to say, Pet, so I gotta m shop. I respect that you did. I couldn't answer that question now, but actually I want to take that back now. I'm gonna go with Pet because he that's like, you know, I got signed. My son about to be eighteen. So sometimes you be around the crowd like my Ni playing all this music, they be

caught up in there. So I'm thinking about like success and accomplishments and how many people been talking about him. I'm in the same bag as like the social media niggas. But I know Pet originated that style. I even did it this song telling me how he stole pet style. And Pet was super active when he was men doing this thing. So IMA have to go with Pete. You got to get a shot for we want just what we want. I ain't say trying to make some matching

to happen this show. Okay, cool cool cool cool cool cool cool. I'm going it's right back up. This is great, by the way. A shot for the shot for that. I've been shot, shot for y'all man, shot for y'all man coming through mm hmm. That's how that goes down. Okay, I'm I'm sure this question is for you. Wanna come back to you. I'm gonna stay on you now. I'm giving this to all three of y'all. Black Dog or corrupt I love. My name is corrupt, black Dog, No, and I got one for you. No component DJ here

I'm going. But I think I shot for that though, definitely will um that's that's your answer. That means you to get shot. I said, black dog, black dog, black dog to corrupt, whichever where you want to go with it. Damn man, you need to tell corrupt my negger correct anybody. Back when I was a young boy, like before rough Riders and all that, I was about to go sign the Corrupt. He was in the city, he was active,

and they just took me to him. And I was about to sign to one way back in the day, and he probably caught my phone like last week FaceTime, let me know what's going on, So I corrupt personally. The same ship happened to me when I was like fifteen. He came to Germany Town and somebody was telling me like, corrupt me is a DJ. This is before everything. I mean, one time black Thot put me on stage with the Roots and let me perform. I think he was in

Atlanta some way. He put me on stage, like years ago, but that was like one time, corrupt, more more active. He funk with me, hit me up, So I I gotta go to correct. You make a quick time of slop a longer second. I gotta go to correct. I'm gonna corrupt. I just play's spending a snoop and I want I met him personally, and both Foxy brought a little kid count Okay. I never can't be Doskin doing that. Man, I'm gonna be honest. I think no, no, I think

me and about you. They've been traded. No, no, no, it's it's really tough because I met Um Foxy. I met her like maybe I met kimp a Lord later on her career, like more recently, you know, and I met Foxy maybe ten years ago. We love them both. Yeah, yeah you guys still man, Okay, cool, but I fum that's my only I really know Cam. Like we did records the guy with Cam, So I gotta go come on day all right, since you're breaking up, you talking about doing the record all Kelly, what did we We

didn't get into it? Yeah, video, I was I ain't gonna lie. Met the Nigger twice. First time was when Switzer the Niggas took me to Chicago to record the record. Yeah, Grady is definitely the plug. This is my first I had no singles out, I had no records out, I ain't had shipped out. They just opened up my budget.

I did a lot of the songs and they're like, Yo, you need a single with a big single on it, Like you know what I'm saying, some ship that we because I was on J Records, they like, they don't need no death Jam record. They need a record that's top forty that they came to. Yeah, they need that type of record cloud like where's that record that like where's the where's the Yeah. So not that first. Some of my the names came up. Some other ideas came up. Man that was so long ago, Mankaren Man, I ain't

gonna lie. I don't want to do that because I'm like, I'm like, I don't remember. But it was some whether it was whoever was big at that time, who was like at the same time as Kelly. Definitely, those names came up, like all the all of the big singers right there came up. Right, because I got out the bars if you wanted. And then Kelly, I said, Grady Grady, like, Yo, you want to do something, Kelly, I think we go out there in from Chicago. Din. I'm like, what the

funk are Kelly? Hero? Yeah, let's get it because I know my old like my god brother died like eleven years older than me. That's my old way. Used to add a hood on smashes to take me around. They used to be playing R. Kelly and with a gun in the car that and they think playing R Kelly and the girls used to love it. So I used to be like you R Kelly, that nigga as a young boy. So when they suggested me to do something with R. Kelly, I'm like, hell, yeah, let's get it.

So they flew me out there to Chicago, took me in the studio. The nigger come out on the studio. Nah, yeah, I don't see regular ship. He came out though he came out right. He explained it to him. We like, yo, we got the song one through hotel, like like ladies going to hotel all this ship and then he like, let me hear the beat. As soon as the beat came on the nigga started going crazy, like he started doing all these different who who who and started doing

all these and all of these and ship. Then he went in the booth and went crazy, like the remix the Hotel, he did all that. He did like wild More Court, like Swiss got Wild morel chorus is from r Kelly from the same session, and he did a lot of ship from the same session. It's just reused that little piece for the hotel hook. You know what I'm saying. But he went crazy. I'm like, Yo, this nigga is a genius. And then we went back to the hotel Swiss and yeah, we got this nigga are

Kelly on this ship and then we wrote. We wrote the ship right in the hotel. I'm like, we could go get the cragging, but you know where to happen, We'd be under the covers. I came up right with that ship in the actual hotel with Swiss. And then you know what I'm saying, We went back and recorded and then there was a hit. And the second time I've seen that man was when he showed up with the masks on at the video shoot. You know what I'm saying. I'm like, I'm thinking too, like this is

my video. Were in Chicago. I'm super excited. This is my first video, was like, I mean, I did big business, but I'm telling about my personal video, Like even though R Kelly and it is my video, Like this my budget, my ship and we're in Chicago. It's Ferraris is ill type the ship outside. We got big as manages as, all these video girls running around. I'm like, I'm feeling like I'm on top of the world. And then they're like, yo,

R Kelly here. I'm like yes, because I don't think the niggas gonna come nigga showed him like yes, or Kelly coming there with the mask or I'm like but I could tell us are Kelly. So I'm like, everybody knows that I complent ship after that, But this is my first single. Niggas don't know that I'm I'm worth nothing. This is R Kelly, Like you know what I'm saying, Like I'm accident, like like I'm happy I got a budget open this is my first single. I'm like, damn,

I've been dying for this. I was signing the Rough Riders for all these years. They had no fucking budget. Now I finally got one of them shooting the video and they bringing this nigga R Kelly out, So I'm excited. I mean, I'm happy. And then the nigga show with the mask, so I was like, yo, one nigga night. But I got to accept it. I'm like, yo, fucking I don't given six in the morning. Right next to them, they go with the mask like man checking out of

six and the more I got no mask? You see me like kass in that it was just the odd though, right, it was just the odds. I don't know why he did it. I didn't. Yeah he had this one. Did that mean he would take the appreciate That's like, I'm not thanks for coming out, bro, I appreciate this ship. Yo, about to change my life. I'm never gonna stop performing hotel.

So if I would have had a discrepancy because he got on some masks and I would have tried to dispute, then why would I come to the video and leave it? And you just leave? Now? Now you don't got no video. Now you said to about the nigger to take the map. I don't give the nigga with the king with a bad boon costume on, I don't give or Kelly would have showed up and I would have shot it. I was a young boy. Let's get it. I was excited. Let's make some noise for that. I think it's so funny.

I actually went on tour. I actually opened up for Kelly a few times. Yeah you wanted to ye, No, No, I'm just saying he's a cool dude. He was. I'm saying I never was. Everybody did was old enough drink alcohol. Nobody would drink a Similac motherfucker already. The third time I was about to meet R. Kelly was when he was on the tour with I'm jay Z. He was performing that Madison Square guard. Yeah, this was the first time he was gonna bring me out to perform Hotel

with him, and that should happened. Yeah, and that happens. What happened um or the two with chill your case? No, no, no, no, no, I wasn't. I wasn't nothing to do with my case. I dare to performing the song with R. Kelly and he got into a situation where somebody else got pepper sprayed, the show got shut down, he got rushes to the hospital. It was on tour the before I want to go with you all the time because it became jay Z and Frost there that night. I came after that because

my Nigga, I was in the bathroom smoking. I was like, Nigga, I'm about to go out on Madison Square Guard. I'm already lit. I'm already performing this ship, and I'm already super lit already. So now I'm about to go on stage with R. Kelly at Madison Square, Guarden, I'm about to go on and go. Girl, you want to cover to my old time. I'm in the bathroom, I'm smoking. I'm ready. But I was high hated back then like this this like before they before, like the cases and

all that. You know what I'm saying. So Nigga's strapped up in the bathroom. Nigga's got the all gatte where and all was a sudden I see R. Kelly Cousins and his security, all the people they running the bathroom. Key, I like, what the fun going on? They're like, yo, it's called they're screaming on crazy. So we take some guns and we give them some guns. Like, yeah, Nick, I need to get on the stag to perform this ship. I don't know what they're going through the nigga screaming,

ain't saying what he's going through. He just like niggas trainer, So we get him nigging some guns and selling niggas go into business so we could get on the stage. Next thing. I know. It's a hell of Madison Square Gardens story. I'm just saying, like you canna call you the gun nigga from the guns. I mean when they got, I I feel good a something, if we got something. I'm not the bad guy. I'm not putting no hits out.

I'm not telling you to go hit this. I'm not going We're just saying I got I'm not saying that. It's like I want to perform and do business. I want to get I want to do my song. I want to go out there. Go girl, you want to come, I don't want to do You're coming there screaming the dollar like a nigga dying. Got Jimmy, I don't know what's going on, so I can give y'allsel to do, Like I don't know what the fun is going on. Now.

It turned around this with jay Z. Now I don't want That's probably why I ain't get as as big as I was probably supposed to get in my career because everything and I know this the platform. I just want this man to know he didn't know. Ye had nothing to do with it. They would said they, but they sell with jay Z. I was like, Z ain't getting like I'm figuring that out. It was made it seem like it was a regular nigga. So I'm like, yo, my niggas like I was back then. There's no home

calls you good now? Yeah, that was that was actually he said, not actually Kelly, but the homie that was next to the home. Yeah, and niggas that niggas that I know that is his, his people's. They ran in the bathroom chaotic, Yo, Kelly, Oh my goodness. So I was like, you know what I'm saying, So you they didn't say, they didn't say yo with jay Z and his people's and he did this and then this is this. I ain't know. I wanted to go on stage and perform.

I'm happy that they are on the best of both worlds. I'm thinking they're friends. I don't know the I don't know, you know what I'm saying. But that was the third time I was supposed to see him. I didn't see him that day though, like the other niggas came into bathroom when they got the ship. We went to the hospital to go recover what we gave them. R Kelly was in the hospitals or I ain't see him that time. I saw I met him the two times the time you went to guns back, Yeah, like I ain't shooting.

I can't see if they knocked something off to that. But it's like niggas ain't doing nothing. Got my ship and they not happened. Let me get my ship back. So we went to the spin God get your back. But I ain't see him like you know you see at the going stage, just peace, super mad. That's the mold the story. I'm happy you see the morrow the story. Everybody trying to think aways to me like I'm a criminal with the girls. I'm talking, I ain't get to perform,

like I never got to do this. I've never done a song. No, I've never been on stage. And then they're going to go, girl, you show your career. I don't see that's sound. And then that ship happened. It's like, come on, man, what the fun is going on? Let's change it up for us, like a little oozy, A little baby, um, little little auzy, a little baby. You're gonna ask me the same thing, man, you gotta answer, brother, don't take a shot. Damn, man, that's weird lately. So

I like your long time as some fans down. I've seen when I first came to Atlanta, right, this is when our first movie out day. I was in the mall. I'm looking for some ship. Let's get away with this last one, but this quick time and it's one baby. Yes, that's it. We come back a little we come back to the great store. I love it. I've met the little baby. I shook his handy good. I'm from Philly and I never met little Bosie, never tapped in So

a little baby. If you want, we don't. We're not mad if you if you want to think about it, it's okay. Little little baby who finished on his forehead, the village on his head, guy's head, right, little baby, the growing you guy has called into baby. I'm going on. You think it's million anybody, it's down on it. I think it's five hundred. I God, damn, I love it. Because you're gonna get a piece of that face. I don't get a piece wings all right, yeah, be careful

right now Atlanta or Miami? Atlanta, Atlanta, Miami. I don't know if that was a fair one from me. Shot relationships, stop you that. Let's get this thing a shot a little fast. Come on, at s say I'll respect that the tiny shots. Okay, Atlanta Miami. You tek about buy pussy or game pussy. It's a difference. I can't Mimi is the buying. No, No, I'm every woman's for selling Miami. My knee got don't be a hitter, please, every woman is selling pussy more Atlanta to But I got go

Atlanta because I make more money on landing. Okay, alright, are you going to bathroom? Or this is one for all through three year y'all? Loyalty or respect? I'm gonna take a shot. I need both of them, all right, I respect that shot. Loyalty or respect? Come on, No, you can't keep doing it once you get it. You know it's affective. You can't ask the next already creative. I'm take a shot. You know that take a shot. Should take a shot. I don't know. I don't know.

School three champs, you know not to respect you to come respect to be both loyalty. If you if you're loyal to me, you should respect respect, respect that. I respect that now. But if you respect me, you should be lawyer to me too. Everybody that respects you as loyalty, I'm gonna take a shot for you. Take a shot for you. I don't got a ticket shot because I picked, I got fokeingball and I forgot your basses from Philip. You're gonna throw for his baths in here, all right? Um,

it should be easy for a couple of people. Swiss mesa tip back Wood out there, m hmm, and my book bag. I'm gonna go Swiss, Swiss Visa, timperly, Swiss meat, Swiss timper just you know, I gotta go to Swiss because he put my niegue on. Okay, all right then, now let me start with you real quick. For ev Us up, Rocket Feller, cash money, Rocket Feller, They're rock. I'm gonna cash money. J clue what jazz, Jeff. Let's do different categories. That's the reason why it should be

that that's a hard one. No, that's a different one that that already hard one. Um, it's another one like this, I mean no, because he's trying to send me up with the Philly Ship. Wait, wait, wait, I didn't even know I forgot the question. The clue Jazz Jeff, Yeah, you want me to answer it? No, I don't want you to answer Jazzy jeff Man hometown. I mean the last one for your motherfucker's Jill Scott a Jasmine Sullivan, Jeff Scott, Jie Scott, Jill Scott. I think Jazze still

she still got to go to Jasmine. She's just amazing. But let Julia Irvin Julie Servant, Junior servant, Dr Jay Money, I'm gonna see a quick break, taking a quick people's break. Yeah, do it. Let's walk the room, yo, Ja Jr. Servant's son. Jay Irving used to manage me. That's why I got picked jail. And I said, but you feel to keep from keep stop. You don't stop stop little ship. We'll get a lot of sick cause we still feeling, and you'll still wipe up. Yeah, he taking up. Let's go

all right? Cool, So drama real quick. When you when you come, when you're going from Philly tow Atlanta? How old do you at that point? I was eighteen? And what was the reason for that? I went to I went. I left to go to college, So you went to Calklanta University, And that was that was my reason. I mean, I went to college to go to Atlanta. I didn't even know, you know, I know at the time, like Atlanta had a a vibrant scene, like you know, I had visited with my father and I had seen like, yeah,

we are rolling the fun bro um. No, so I had knew, like you know, Atlanta was a was a place of you know, opportunity for young black people of young young people of color, you know, from all over the place. You know, I always thought I was gonna wind up in New York honestly, you know what I'm saying, coming from Philly like when I was you know, waving

and everything. But Atlanta is like, you know, I owe a lot to Atlanta for my career, and you know, for what I was able to accomplish there, you were already DJ ye Yeah, I was DJ. I mean, you know one of the reasons why I chose Black Daughters because you know, I came up at the time when I literally watched the Roots get on. That was my first tom seeing literally like somebody like right in front of me is like getting a record deal and you know,

making it, you know on rap City. You know what I'm saying, even though there was pridecast from Philly from my generation, from seeing it in knowing Quests and knowing black Dog, you know what I'm saying, Restling Peace the Mouth B two and you know it the DJ for Bahama d I Don't Want People. Yeah, of course, yeah, so you know that that was my early you know Philly days and what happen bro, But yeah, I went, I went for college. I know, we came back. But

he was, was you already making mixtapte? Lightly? I was? I mean obviously not to the degree, but I was. You know, I made this tape called ill It Delf and I literally just copy uh Dop ninety five live and you know black Dog, but I'm what's it called it with? And you know, I just I copied do Op and just you know, took the artists that were around me at the time. We all wanted to do that. Any mixtape you really wanted to do that, You wanted to do that. So that's what I did for the crib.

You know, she ass o g of course together. I'm trying to understand. So did you forget. I was from Philly. Hell yeah, what what I'm telling sudden? You know had Jillian Wallow here, I was here. I come in here because Mike hip me last night. So I'm gonna meet your drink champs. I don't know he here, I don't know drum here. Uh yeah, I definitely forgot. I'm standing here and I'm like, yo, this the second time I'm Michigan for some reason. Michigan. He be you got hot?

Yeah a lot. I forgot, forgot, forgot. That's because I just said you said, there's no way this nigger. No, I'm fulfilling. Keep having niggers that I knowing right now. Definitely, I definitely never Yeah, I definitely ain't put two and two together. Yeah slip yeah yeah yeah, I slipped today. I slipped today. But you're here, nigger. That's like, can I bring my my nigg Yeah yeah yeah yeah, lulu USI birth Okay, generational, Okay, coolest, that's what y'all are.

Cool nigga right here, cool nigger. You're Gonnas only, right boy? Yeah yeah, you're crazy crazy yeah yeah yeah yeah that niggas about it that it's crazy crazy and you signed the drum yeah, yeah, generational. So how do y'all link up? I sluck in the studio. I got my I just got my deal from the Red Flow the boy I got that was how that was coming. When John really came in, wrapped hands around and they took it to another level with it. Now we are I really stuck

in the studio. I met with a joke with a joke, it's what's yeah, whether Joe is at Main Street at the fly of Flying Arts. So once I link up with him, you know, he put me in front of the drum and when he was already hearing the music and John was off the rip. So just took it from nothing like let's do it? Yeah, how did you mean swiss um? I was signed the Rough Riders. I signed the Rough Riders when I was seventeen. Mm hmm yeah,

when I was the ball day. I'm not t d to negotiated that Swiss pop. I'm not an a Philly in the ballger shop and he was passing through, he used to live in Philly, savey passing through and then he was asking who the hottest thing in this set and the Barbara told him about me, called me through the studio asked me to spit some ship. So I came to the studio and start spitting. I seen TV he was down with Rough Riders. I didn't know him though.

He wasn't like DMX and nobody that I was familiar with, but he had on the hat, he had merchandise and ship like that. That's how I sped for him, made him, made an impression on him. He got my number and all that. Like two days later in school, I got a page from my mom and he was telling me to come out in New York to me why his brother that was the CEO or Rough Riders. And that's how I got signed the Rough Riders when I was seventeen and Swiss was like one of the popping this

producers over there at the time. When I first got signed, he was leviting and when I when I got signed, he started to blow started to go crazy. He wanted to start his own production company, so he needed an artist. I was in the three man group, lost in the family, but he said he wanted me as a solo artist. So that's how we partner it up and started or

Service Records. The group was signed Rough Riders. Just you now, he just signed me as a solo artist like I was in the three man group, signed the Rough Riders group, and that's how we got free from that contract because I signed as a solo artist the Swiss Beats well with Swiss Beats and we started for Surface and then I got the artists there with Jay Records, Clive Davis,

and that's how he made that happen. But he went the group, I mean, and at that time I was the one being active battle in going crazy at the time, and I was the youngest, so I guess he found, like I guess he felt like, you know, that was the best direction to go in, so he talked it over with me, and my management at the time was his dad and um I was signed to his uncle's d and WY, So it was easy for me to get out that contract and get in a new situation.

And I knew it was probably not gonna be you know what I mean beneficial for us to stay with Rough Riders at that time, because they had so much talent X the locks in dragged, they weren't about so much other situations that we was like last on the list and we didn't even had no budget open. So the best situation for me was to go with Swiss because I was gonna be his only artist. And that's

how I didn't and made it happen. I'd really good with Mike, uh, I mean me and Mike, we just competed trying to We actually was in a UM competition together that we I mean, comics were like one big family. Always see each other during open mic night. You know, we've known each other for seeing the beginning of everything.

We actually come we just really do get along. We don't know each other, but I mean we we worked together, you know actually the first time, not the first, but one time, UM that she was in a competition that gives him. It was Steve. It was Apollo, an Apollo competition. Yes, me and Mike Epps. And the only reason why he won. The reason why I lost because I went I did. I went over my time. That's what he told me that Mike, you went over your time. That's why you lost.

But um, yeah, we go way back, man, inflect your bad. At one point was my road manager. I met him. I made him through Tim Thomas. You know, Tim was my homie, the bast my player. He's from Philio, so uh. He played in Veranova and he signed like eighty min out. You don't wanted one of the first eightymen out with Milwaukee Bucks six NBA countract thirty million dollars shoe deal. Yeah, and then he's working with him. That's how mad I met him. I met him through Tim. Tim was my homie.

That's how I met you, right, Tim. Yeah, and then he wanted to rule me for a few times. Being rod managers, he was sucking the bitches. That's all we need. We need ship. I'm an open book, so we can't out there about no, no, no. It was good. They come with the job. We have fun, though the job we think have more fun. Comedians are rappers. Rappers actually good, Yeah, rappers, I think have more. I've been on the rule both more groupies and us. But yeah, I got because I

felt depends on that. We have grown up Google group comedian groopies late thirties. Yeah, groupies have children. Yeah, groupies, Yeah, they're wrong. Groopies there. I went to my friends too, How did you look at Mayweather? I actually, um Floyd was following me on Instagram and I didn't know. I

didn't know I was on my Uh. Actually I got a text from Um from Keechi his assistant, Keeching, I've been friends since I've been in Miami, and she texts me one day, This was in February seventeen, and she texts me and and said that Floyd wanted to invite me and my man Rest in Peace prim to UH to Floyd's forty birthday. And she said, and she said that Floyd had been watching my Instagram and one day I put up a post that really resonated with him personally.

It was about why do some dudes get mad if a chick just don't want to funk with them and want to funk with another dude? And he always looking for explanation and I'm like, Nigga, you just ain't got it. You ain't got that. Yeah, I mean he ain't got that genesee qualad. So he really that that post dated for him. So he told Keachi, like, yo, I like that, Nick. I want to meet him. And he didn't know she knew me. And when he showed it the post, she

was like, that's your bad. He was like, you know him? She's like yeah, he said you like you know him? No him? She said, yeah, I know him. She reached out to me. I flew myself to l A for his party, put myself in the hotel and all that I met him, met him that night. The rest is history. Now that's how floor is, Like, he'll watch you if you funk with you, you watching for a few became a fan, you know, he bent as she came to throw my shows. After that, he's I put it up.

I made a post after the last show. He's like man, he said after the show. Became a fan, he said, of following me and next you know, wherever I'm at here abouts and bring his whole crew, you know, and he paid attention, pay attention to everything because and the reason why he's so calculated like that is because when he funk with you, he funk with you. He not no funny style, Like if you notice he don't funk,

He don't roll with nobody but his team. Like he cool with rappers and act like he cool with people. But when he decided I want to funk with this person and he bring you win? Is that for life? Like only you can suck that up whatever I thought, that's how he treated the show when he came on the show, Like but that's how he completed. I was with this. I'm with this situation right now. He wouldn't

have came if he didn't sunk with it. And trust me, he probably don't watch the hundred episodes of this Ship before he decided. Yeah, I see the other day at his party, and like he said that, you know he really like I was at that, Like like he when he when he want to funk with somebody, like he don't just dive in because you know people. You know,

he was disappointed humans, you know what I'm saying. So when he tried to be really meticulous about who he decided to hand pick and funk with, and like, man, he sucked me up, like I ain't gonna hold you, like I'm not gonna get into all the stories. But like he called me. He called me one day in April. I met him in February. I met him in February. Now I told this story. I met him in February. I went to l A. I came back from l

A that Monday. That Tuesday, Keachi called me. She said, I told you when Floyd likes somebody, he likes him. She said, No, I don't want to make you nervous, she said, but he told me to ask you for your bank account information. I'm like, he can have it. I know, you know, you know he's not getting ready. Still nothing, so like this couldn't only be going one direction. So it was a Tuesday. Wednesday came and I'm not I don't know what to expect. I don't have no expectations.

I'm just like, I don't know where this is going. I just met the man four days ago, and that Thursday he called me. He texted me and he said, check your account in ten minutes, and it was ten thousand in my account. That was February. My birthday was in April. He came to my Ainami. He faced Tommy and he said, Yo, where you where you at? I said him in the house. He said, send me your location, so he said I and I texted them look where I live. He said, I'll be there in ten minutes,

and I, um, I got out say it. So I'm looking for like I'm looking for the money team trucks. I'm looking for the Bugatti. I'm looking for some ship. But I don't see no cause. So I see U a suv flashing they lights at me and it's him. He drove just him his man out and and uh in a lady friend. He drove in my crib, told me happy birthday, gave me another tenthoud. Oh no, you'll never see him, you know, he gave me another ten thousand.

But when he gave me that ten thousand, he said, listen, He said, what you're doing on social media is needed, he said, And he said, I know you're a man, he said. I know. You don't ask me for nothing, he said, But and I know what your background is, he said. But I don't want you to risk your freedom for money, he said, because we need you on this side of the wall, not the other side of the wall. He said. All that game you got it need to be out here, he said, don't you worry

about nothing. I got you for life. You good? Why that's not like to said, let me make this clear. He don't just take care of me. You don't just give every week. But he just wanted to be understood, like, I really funk with you and I got your back. So if you should need me, you understand you gotta support system. But thankfully I don't. UN's fun popular, you know, it's like you know it just you know what it does.

It took it took me back to something that my mother taught me, and that was always exude stellar behavior and good character because you never know who watching. Just be great, Just be yourself for you're gonna come because never in a million years, because I have designed that, you know, saying that type of relationship or friendship to this day my man and that's his way of doing philanthropy for lack of a better world. But a lot of people see, people don't know the difference between money

made Whether and Floyd. It's two different people. Money made Whether they're supposed to piss people off. Money Mayweather is the one that get under people's scan like that's the one money Maybe Whether made the money. But Floyd, the person, the man, the human, the person that got his own flaws, the man that's human that you don't make mistakes like everybody else make. His mistakes may be different. He's different from money Mayweather. And that's the person that people don't know.

And that's the person that gets piste off when people criticize Floyd for what money made, Whether might have did you know what I'm saying. It's a difference. So what's the next real quick? May be a city right now? Listen, five as already out here. I'm gonna get to take by y'all to say, let's okay, all right now all I'm not just saying that neither, like so you know how to pick up that's just crazy to pick up and your energy good. When I pulled up and he's

from Florida. That's that's everything over this you next, um car your I don't know if you know, I'm just saluting to the subvert for them, you know, for this ship but generation now, you know, shopping cannon they you know. Jack Allough said, got some should coming. But I'm working on some of the music too, Okay, I'm always working, all right, podcast What's What's What's next for you? And just just dropped three projects in the last five months,

The Science, the Former Lane, the Wise Man. So I've been working cooking up on all platforms. Will check it out, everybody. Three projects to Science, the Phone Alone, the Wise Man. That's right, hey, marge. Second, my podcast come out called No Filter with Michael Blackson. So yes, there's somebody named Doggie Dimonds. There's a whole lot of filters. Yeah, there's a whole lot of no filters. So I had a

No Filter with Michael Blackson. It's a wholeless it was you hit me about to listen, it's already been contract me signed already and my name is attituated. So it's a whole bunch of no filters. You know, I wasn't great. My things are like, so be glad you think as good as me. Motherfucker with your name I had with my name, So it's no filter. Michael blacks name is on alright, shout out to Sharmis on Black Effects Network

and all that Black Effects. You all got a great excellent so yes, March second stars of course much fit um coming to America too, was in that movie. Everybody got the bootleg, both flies me, everybody got. People have seen it already. You see who come to even told meet the bootleg? Day? They watching, they're watching the Friends far. Motherfucker don't know the first one? Yea every yet, No listen, it's not out there, bro, it ain't ain't no way

it's out there. Um yeah. And then of course March twenty nine, Um, couples who treat me my girl, and a bunch of love and hip hop people and I'm on tour. I'm back on the road, you know, Corona. We're back out there. I went doing my own thing, I with Mike Abson and this this fall, and you got the vaccine. Just say yeah, So you say you got the vaccine. Listen, came to you that visine said it's ninety seven point five percent accent. I'll get on it right now, Okay, I take the viscene. I even

have COOVID. My mother crooked digging boyhead and called me that. But yeah, so check me on toward this fall with Martin Lawrence and then right now I'm on going on the real Mike Apps. So we're gonna getting this money. Yes, that's what's next for me. I wish they were slowing like that, but you know, I'm appreciated to when they came. You know what, you know that's not I don't know. You you talking to the people that the people tell

the people what's that's going? Okay, okay, okay, people. You know, when I got something that can right right, you know when you talk about it, you know, Nori, you know, man, Laurie got a funny story. You know, I never thought this would even be, you know, something that was even possible. What was that like? Two three years of a prof House, So we gotta go. So let me know when you got going on they're gonna do. Let's go, let's go.

Me and this guy before that, before that. I actually just had a public this on Friday because my book is done. Flip Your Life. The book has done in my life story, it's complete, and so by the time she does the synopsis and everything, your Flip your Life is the name of my book. Yeah, Flip your Life is the name of the book. M just hid a publicity team Friday, So probably within the next three weeks

the book will be out. And listen, if y'all watched this show, just count how many times money I said going crazy? He said about thirty seven times. I counted, just go. Chris counted when the show comes on, I said seven money thirty seven times? Maybe thirty six? How many times you think he said going crazy? I ain't even know I'm saying that like that. Listen, brothers. You know, man, our show is about giving people they flywers. It's about

saluting people to their face. You know. Um, you know, I thought that you know m Philly together, I Toldally forgot you know, your bads or some Philly. But glad that it made it happened at the end away, you know what I mean. But I just want to thank your brothers because um, you know, it's about us giving people off their clouders. You know what I'm saying. We want to bake people up, you know what I mean,

because our coaches so stupid. Sometimes they want to beat you up and they you know, God bless you know, Fred the Godson. You know, I just got a street named after him, and it's dope hopped up would have been if you've seen that speaking with these a live you know what I mean. So I want to change the narrative or that, and that's what this is all purpose is about what It wasn't about me. It's about week,

you know what I'm saying. And so I just want to thank all you three brothers individually, you know what I mean, taking the time out and you know, and you know obviously want to get you all depred really as well, you know, but this this is important to show some really love. I was going on Gilly and Willow and uh Freeway and whoever else PD crack Web also a FaceTime in which I was just so interested.

I didn't want to take the time. I didn't want to bother them and just some of the focus on this energy here, so you know, bottom line, want to say thank you. Let's take some pictures that you can

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