Episode 252 w/ Amar’e Stoudemire, Slim Thug & Jadakiss

z that time for drink Champs. Trink Up Mother would a good beat, hopefully this would It should be this your boy and O R? What up is d j e fn? And this is Middle Tam Crazy War Drinks y'all makes up? Right now? We're talking about two brothers right here. One is a basketball legend turned to a how you can say when you when you when you know Wine Concier when he's a kind of stuer of things, he's a legend. He came pulled it here and a bike.

I don't know if it's a hard he daviould say were kind of bike when it's the first person who's ever shown up in dree chaps when I goddamn bike and I don't mean better he's one of Johns, you know, legend, very respected brother Brookie of the Bookie of the Year, so many accolades. We don't get into it. And we also want to talk about the other brother that's here. Uh. I thought it would be dope that to have these two together and the other one, oh my god, is

a legend. We heard that he came in the game rich with prel he no, they said they side and he was already rich. Like is going on from the act this question. I can't even speak outside, but it's his city, his state is going through a lot right now, and I think it was important to hear something somebody from there. So in case you don't know what we talked about. What your motherfucking mark, motherfucker what he's talking to you? Immediately it's I'm about the light of blood

and I want to know you're out the NBA. Yeah, they're not testing no more. No, But you think you think it's beneficially for an athlete to burn or what is your stance on that. I mean, for me, when I played, I didn't smoke at all, Okay, because it affects my cardio, affects my my mental approach to the game, but everybody reacts differently to it, you know what I'm saying.

So it depends on your intact. You know, if you your intake, so if you can if you can handle it and you can focus in and keep your card your baschlor. But had you before that, like before you were no, so you hadn't at all. So whenever, whenever I played right. Never, So it was the way after your career that you started. I mean you know what

I mean. Off seasons you have like a month, okay, like a week or two, and then you start back training and then it all goes back to I canna tell you a serious guy, like I tell you, don't put no came. But let me ask you one more. It's gonna hurt me to ask this question. It's the Knicks ever gonna be good? Ever? I mean possibly? Bro. Yeah, they got a good they got a good squad now because I see you working with the nets right with the nets. But you mean we got a good squad now,

just what I'm saying. In the playoffs right now, they got you know, they were a C seven C yeah defense team in the league right now. Wow. Wow, I didn't know that about the loop. That's what we got. Yes, I'm dreaming sport. I want to say what's up. I'm not to everybody, but how about when you got into the league, you've always been like, like Norway said, super serious, humble, but strong dominant player. Is that like an everyday attitude when you when you got up on the court, for sure,

when you're coming from Florida's another Florida home team. Yeah, yeah, I mean I grew up in Florida, was raised New York, and I moved back to Florida for high school. Um so, but yeah, I mean on the court, I was always like trying to dominate. There's enough proof that you that you've done it year after year. But one of the good questions I have that I thought was, how's that high school? Straight from high school to the NBA. There's many athletes that done it and like a hand like

a handful Kobe, Moses Malone. How do you feel being that group? Kevin Gardner? Yeah, Well, for me, I was in high school man Florida and my freshman year I transferred to North Carolina. So the sharp in my hand my last year was my last day I was at the school and I wrote on the bleachers straight of high school, the wall, straight out of high school, and I let only it was coming straight on, straight up. Yeah, yeah, manifested the lights off. No, I think that was the

ghost an easy say. Don't make a joke about my ship. But somebody that people didn't want to play. They know the Phoenix Suns is coming up. They know Marve Stodo minds coming up. The big man got got something to deal with. Yeah, for sure, Man, I came out. I came out with no fear. Bro I was eighteen years old and I was drafted, and I was like, look, I'm here. You know I'm gonna state. You feel me? So when I came out, I was like trying to

dominate every chance I got. And that was my mentality, even though as a player out of high school, I only played two years of high school basketball two years. Two years so I played. I started playing at fourteen years old. I got drafted the eighteen but my high school career I played only two years my freshman year my senior year. So it was like once I got there, I'm like, yeah, I'm here. You know what I'm saying. So I took it over from there. You know that

a judgment period it's tough for anybody. But let's say you from Florida and you went to New York and then he went to Phoenix. The weather didn't affect you. You You weren't ready, you said, the hot Yeah, that was cool with that, because when I was in Floyd, I went to Phoenix, was already hot, and I wanted to go back. I wanted to go to New York and play for the Knicks. And so when I signed with the Knicks, I wasn't concerned with the weather at all.

I was like, look at that point, yeah, yeah, so I was ready that I was ready from that point for sure. So slim thug man, Um, I'm gonna be honest, it's so real that I had never heard of snow in Texas at all. I've never heard of that. Like, it was so real that when I first saw it on Twitter, I thought it was a joke because people say it's snowing in Texas, like and like obviously for those first minutes where it was on Twitter, it was

no tragedies at the time. It was just snow and and did I went back and I'm like, what this possums freezing? Is pikes rolling? Yeah? Yeah, we try yeah, isn't that we haven't heard of it either. Man. They said that they haven't happened to Houston since like the nineteen thirties. Man, it has slowed in the Houston before. It has before, like if we consider it's like Miami clients, right, but it's like it's not real snow. It's like a little on the grass, no real, you know. And that

shut the whole city now. So what we've seen right here was something we ain't never seen before. So it like toured a lot of stuff. It busted the pipes all over the city, you know, and then they had that black ice of pile piles up, pile ups was going on in Fort Worth and stuff. So it's pretty bad. Man, water stop. You know a lot of people still ain't got their stuff back. So it's crazy. Blessed man. I can't. I couldn't. I never thought that, man, I never can. Miami,

they slow. What happen to anything? It happened like used to. I've seen some in guess like Hell came down to it and it was as hell. Let me started Jerusalem, bro when I was one of the time around. It's not like where Jesus is from going outside around that time, really wing outside in the storm. I don't know about that. It's crazy, man, Monday ain't nothing with Holy moly molye man. So playing for the Knicks, right, what kind of fans

are the Knicks fans? The Knicks fans to me, what I figured out was like they are very into the team. You're feeling like they know drinking. I'm ahead of you. I'm drinking by the way we're drinking called right here is the origin. Yeah. So when I played with the Knicks, man, it was like the fans actually were What I found out was very like in formative. You know, they know the stats, that know the players, that know the draft picks, they know the coaches, and they also are like, we

gotta get the owner out of here. Let's be clear. I'm not what's on the star no, because listen he yeah, I agree with that. I went on that. I don't know. I don't know much about that. You know the owner, right, what's his name? Yeah? Yeah, I ain't never gonna play basketball. So it's okay. I don't like you, buddy, like the older I don't like you, bro. Yeah, you should give over, like you know, because it's just like he doesn't care.

As long as they're still seats. We shall always be seats with the always cease for the Knicks, right sure, Okay, but Ki, I think I'll cut you off. You know I'm saying. I was saying the fans. The fans are more so like in tune with everything. I feel me so so. And one thing is aggravating about the fans are if you have one bad game, it's like the world's ending tomorrow. You know what I'm saying. It's like, wait, guys, eighty two games within a year. Guys are not Guy's

gonna be talking. Guy's gonna have a bad game or two. But I do love the fans because they're so informative and it makes you play to a high level, you know. So that's another transition. You went from the West coast to the East coast, how PhoX Coast, the west coast, Arizona, that is the west coast, it's right now to California's right. I was in Arizona one time. It was so hot that I sweated in my sweat dehydrate like I didn't like. It was so like smaller evaporated and evaporated. That's how

hot it was. Like by the time I were like this, it was gone. But I felt like, damn it. All right, So that's the West Coast, you said, going from the West, How do you prepared for that? I mean going back home because it's New York. Are You're familiar with that? But it's a different professional adjustment it was, I mean the West Coast. I was always in l A. So I lived in l A every summer for eight years. So I lived in l A like the entire time

while I played in Phoenix for the summers. But then when I moved to New York, it was like I'm going back to the crib, you know. So all my friends that I grew up with, for the friends I knew along the years, were already there. So it was an easy transition for me. And then basketballs were similar because the coach right then, Tonio was my coach in Phoenix, and the staff and the staff and the staff was there.

It was already organized for me. I had a lot of young guys who was like none all stars, not familiar with going to the playoffs, not for MELI with like championship caliber basketball. So I did somewhat teach them along the way. Practiced by practice, game by game to build their confidence up to where they play high level basketball. Do you accept that mentorship role at that point? Are you still dogs? No? No, no, I was. I was still me, you know. But at the same time, they

saw the way I work, they saw my actions. It wasn't that I was also going to the Matt Gallis, I'm going to the Broadway shows, I'm going to the fashion shows, all that extra. But at the same time they saw me at practice early training saying in the weights, you know what I'm saying, it's so all that. So then therefore when they saw that, they started to raising their game up and realizing, like, I bet because when I'm moving to New York, no player living in the city.

Hold on, no one lies in the city. Man, listen, I'm gonna find me a penthouse and man having them in Jordan, New York and also bring high level basketball. And who's who's who. Who's harder to play against? Lebron or Kobe. Man, that's tough. That's tough because Kobe has a different type of intellect with the game. I feel like Kobe was talking, he was talking to you, you know, well, he talked whenever you talked to him. Okay, he was

all business and it was like strategic Lebron. It was probably harder to play against because he was also more explosive. So it's like, you guard Lebron, you can actually, I take that back. Kobe's heart of the guard because Kobe was like, you know, there was no weaknesses. Well, Lebron, we said, all right, make him shoot, we back off. Make him shooting if you get hot. Alright, bet you know what I'm saying. He won that one. But but sometimes he may not get hot, so you can back

off Lebron. That changed somewhat now because he's a much better shooter now. But Kobe was like, you can't back off of him. You can't force him laugh, you can't make him turn around jumper. Like everything we try to make him do, he does well. So it's like no game planning for Kobe. It's crazy. That's from minute one to minute for the game. For he's a different animal. He's a whole different player now. He's like even more

focused and like even more dominant. Talk about k Lebron's also Lebron is like an even guy's gonna give you twenty five eight cod is gonna get you forty five fifty points at times, like Lebron slows down where Kobe. I feel like Kobe and Jordan was like more killers straight for that assessment, and Lebron is a killer too, but it's more of like he had to get taught that Lebron. Lebrons are all around basketball player. He's a complete basketball player, you know what I'm saying. Like he

does everything, you know, he does everything good. Right, Kobe was a great score. It wasn't as good as a passing Lebron. He's not a rebound guy like Lebron, but he's a great score and a great leader. So he was able to, like, you know, facilitate the game in that way. It's crazy, man, between being up having Steve Nash and Phoenix and Thens to having Raymond Fellon in New York. Is it fair to say that you have chemistry the same? Yeah, it was the same, Bro, It

was the same. Yeah. I mean Steve Nash is more of a he's a He's a ninety forty nine forty guy right from the free throw line line, from three and fifty from the field, right, So that's very rare to have ray was So that made Steve like a better player from that standpoint, but Ray was also very good because he's a player. When you have a dominant big who can like get him open and then create office for himself and draw draw the deepense in and where guys are open, so it makes the job easier

for point guards if you got shooters. So Ray was able to adjust and we spend time together. We like talked in practice, we went over a few things after practice. We built chemistry. So it may Ray even the all star caliber point guard because we built that chemistry, saying, as I did with Steve, a slim thug, I gotta access rumor, Man does they say? Because they say, Jimmy I Bean signed you, right, and then you was was was with a right, But the rumor was that she

was rich already. Right. That's yeah, it was pretty much ship. Now that wasn't as bad as you think that. It was really like it was really just from underground music. I was an underground artist and you know what I'm saying. And when I first I started in nineteen, I was seventeen in high school, so you know that was so you know, I was killing them back then, making money, uh, doing underground mixtapes, but the only thing it was chopping screw you know, so if you from out of town,

you ain't never listen to that. You never knew who the hell I was. You know, your taste was originally that what you got rich off was choppling, was chopping screwed, rapping on y'all beat. So it was like, you know, that's how people knew me, you know, from rapping on you know everybody, everybody else beating and being chopped and screwed. And then um, later on we did still tipping and that came out, and that was something that crossed over out of the Texas chopping screw market and me Mike

Johnson power. So actually I was already signed. I was actually already signed before that though, you know, just out of you know what I'm seeing what I was doing, you know, independently for real, came to the city, and it was a few people came out, you boy, I came got me everybody. You know. That's the problem. You know, we just was doing our thing. Um you know, underground Independent was making so much money. We just didn't want

to sign no deals. It was like, we ain't gonna get y'all this and we're already making this, you know at home. We'd rather just get the money and be famous. So that's how you know started. And then eventually Jimmy Aveenham gave me a deal where I can still do my independent underground stuff, so it made sense. That's crazy that they would create those deals like that because you understood that the remember and then was kind of signed to Jimmy Irving, and Jimmy Irving gave him to Drake

No no, but what he's saying. They're a loud and still sell the underground tape right to screw right, you know, doing that because the thing is you couldn't sunk with Texas markets like this. They were doing that. Already always knew the label. I always knew this is gonna be an artist to come from Texas that don't leave him sell nowhere else but Texas. Right, that's how big it is, Texas.

That's how big Texas is. Like this, I've been been going on tour with Texas different times on like one was tupposed you could drive an hour in Houston, you know somewhere in Houston like that. Yeah, I still can't get over this. This this this what is it this is what's it called global warming? That this is a sign a global warming? Definitely a sign. Like I said, we ain't never seen that either, We've never seen this not. That's why we were prepared when Jesus was born. Snow

isn't run, it's little. Oh my god, you're thinking. I don't know. I don't thinking like you know, they're more animals or something. I don't know. It's crazy, man, you're really going there, You're really going to this. Yeah, Like I follow you on Instagram, I feel like you know I'm in there. Bro. I was there for four years. Yeah but really wow. Also, yeah, I was also planned. But you didn't go there to play. You went there

to study. Yeah, for sure. Described describe that because this is like I believe you're the only person I know like this. Yeah, because I mean, like what that that that got this rich and then goes and wasn't better? And you know that's kind of this is dope. Yeah man, was it was definitely, Um, it happened. It happened naturally, bro. It wasn't never a plan of me growing up, like I want to go more to his raem just happened. But you moved there. Yeah. Oh ship. Yeah, I was there.

I was I was there four years. I moved there. More so in Jerusalem. I was in for three years and one year in television, because Jerusalem it's pretty bugged out because all the Muslims, the Christians, and the Jews are all there together and they will take you must them, right,

is that? Like? No, No, they really didn't. They didn't know what to think, be honest with you, because I was, first of all, I was going into play, So it took a lot of their eyes off of like a religious side and more so like the athletic basketball side. So I was able to somewhat you know, getting golfed in it without being like a religious guy and whatever whatever sector, you know what I'm saying. But I grew

up in Israelite, you know what I'm saying. So my family, my family hebridge of lights, and so I was able to somewhat learn from that growing up. And then it just gravitated me to go to Israel and see what I've been learning firsthand. Wow, So I just went. I went there on on that space that they didn't have a nifelife, that they got clubs out there, Israel's they got in the man, pretty religious. But Israel as a whole, like tell Aviva's wild. I mean, they got the South

Beach out there. Ain't listen, they got anything out of there. You got the Mediterranean see right, So in the Mediterranean Sea is on the coast line of Java down to tele Aviv, all through Herzelia. So all this time it's all beach town. It sounds like all flies everybody. I think. I think about this to all the Jewish people that are there. Came from different parts of the world and

went to Israel. So now you have this mixed culture of beautiful people that you've seen all these kinds of people, exotic eyes and this amazing curly hair and this happening, and this is happening like you know, yeah, yeah, yeah. They say that Israel as much love as China does to the athletes in the NBA or the ball game, rather than told, yeah, you have a lot of guys that played over there. I mean Nick Robinson played there for a while. You have a lot of knocked out,

a lot of NBA. Yeah right, you one I saw a need to be back because could you go listen. I don't know who this training was man, because he was like fighting like a street fight because it fed to say because it was against Jake Paul. No, it doesn't matter. I mean he just was fighting like not in the boxing stands. He was throwing wild, sweating your hooks. He was like, just bad training, Bro, had to be bad training, bad training. Well I never heard of breaking

down that way bad training. That would be bad training, Bro. I can tell you with him, you don't believe it on him. And it's my my Big Three parting. You know, he played a Big Three. It was the Big Three. It was you know actually the first time we met. I mean, I know you're parting me a lot of people, but I was in Brooklyn for that game and I went in the post game and with you when Julia's

the legend Julie, Yeah like that. So I was able to talk to you for both of you for absolutely absolutely man to me over the name ship Man Bad. So is it is it a plus when you're working with a super producer assigned to a superducer or is it is it a minus? Because you know, I don't know. Uh, the process was fun. That was the best uh process I ever had making an album. Um, it's more expensive, you know what I'm saying, to get your money back in there. You know. On the other side, it gotta

be work. It just gotta work, you know what I'm saying. If it's working, if you if you got it and you're working with him and y'all making hiss and it's going crazy, it's good. But if it ain't going like that, then it ain't gonna make sense. Shou ain't gonna add up, you know. But at the end of the day, man working with for real, that was the best process I

ever had. But I had more success in doing it without him, you know what I'm saying, Like independently honestly, Like you know what I'm saying, so independent, Uh, you wish you would have stayed independent. Now I'm happy I did that, Honestly. I had a great time. Like it was really a life changing thing. Like it was so

much inspiration, you know what I'm saying. And even just being in this presence talking to him, traveling to Japan when you know, going to Nego Crib and you know what I'm saying, It's like it was just so mind blowing. I'm sure he put it in plays for me to do stuff with Gwen step funny and you know, and maybe Beyonce no telling, you know, he skateboard p you know, so no telling how far that took me. So I'm definitely happy. And and that's like probably my favorite album,

you know, I did so. But but if those deals you had allowed you to steal sell underground, it's almost like it wasn't It wasn't even me leaving the majors had nothing to do it for real, it was more about the people major independent independent now because you know, independent because of like I say, it always been like that. I always felt independent. I don't feel like one of the mainstream rappers who are gonna have songs that's been on hits radio, you know, on the radio, making millions

and stuff. I just feel like my voice on some underground type of So I feel like to make the flip work, I need to be in the pended on my music, you know, because I might. I might not sell a million albums every time, but if I could keep selling that Hunted you know, three times. You know, I'm good with that, you know, it makes sense, you know, and then all my masters, you know, over the years of adds up, I'm doing good. I can't complain, you know, what I'm saying. So I like, I like where I'm at.

But at the end of the day, I did have a great time. You know with Star Trek. What happened with that was the whole label left my A and R left Gifting, you know, everybody who worked the change. So now it's like the sales that Star Trek at that time. I don't know. I don't remember bro on the cool. I remember meeting him, but I know he was with him. I ain't know. I don't know how. You know what I think now. I think he was after yeah, after yeah, but uh, Stephen Victor was working

for me. Bro. Now I look at who we at right now. Bro see like him, you know, I everybody, Man, it's a blessing, you know, to see the guys about something like that. Man, the industry, the industry, the industry. I love it, man, I love I love everything about it. You know, really I hate I want us to have my ownership. That's it, Bro, Like everything everything right now exactly what I want to I want to say, whatever

I want to see. I wouldn't say it was like the phone days and ship, you know what I'm saying. When Nikkas used to go to the stuff. But how with ship? You know what I'm saying, Rock, I was ship. I need to get back to that man. How did you how did you um uh come into the wine? Uh? I mean honestly, honestly, I was. So I traveled the world doing wine tasting. People. You were trying to get into the business. No, I was traveling to anyways. Right. So I go to go to athen Screen and go

to friends to go to all these places. And I would go while I'm there, I take historical site to match up what I'm learning the Bible to be artifacts and true what I'm seeing in history. And then I would also go and taste wine and do the food and wine pairing. So when that happened, I was doing

that for a few years. And then when I when I when I moved to New York, about this crazy penthouse in New York, and I was having these parties at the house and the guy that was the guy that was providing all the boots for me was it was a guy who was like into wine. He was like his main job was like selling wine. And he mentioned to me it's like stay, you should have your own wine. One day, I thought it was just kind

of bluff and a lie. Yeah, that sounds good. So I met a guy from there and we started talking and he's like, hey, you know, you can definitely have your own wine. Let's talk. So we had a conversation about it. And then it took me about for this for this wine right here from the reserve. This was this this label. That's three boys within this collection. So that's reserve, which is this one. You have the Grand Reserve and you have the private collection, which these are

from Israel. So the vine this video is from Israel. Yeah, this this right this year right here's a two seventeen. And it took me like about seven months to throughout the label because what I wanted to do was I wanted to build something for the start of my name, for the family, for my children, so that way when they get old inherit something the legacy. And so I took seven months to for at the label that would

become timeless, right. So, and these bottles are expensive, um, and so what I wanted to do then and say, I want to create a similar blend but the lower price scale bottom right. And so I linked up with the family, the Herzark family out of California, and we created the new side of my wand the origin which is like out of California, no no, no, no, no, close to Nappa, but it's not it's not exactly Nappa. I forget the actual name of the region, but it's

in California. And this is a twenty nine dollar bottom, but it has the same which is the same flavor as the expensive bottom. What what what did that fun you? This right? Here's one sixty nine bucks six, the Lord's one nine seventy nine, and then the three bottles. This is twenty nine for the mass, probably for the p who want to taste wine and have the same type of taste but can't afford these bottles. Want to create something less expensive for the match public, so that's how

we came up with this one. One interesting point about this bottle also is that this is the label the artist natur Reil and that trip you off familiar with the art space, but natural as an artists the world now artist. He's actually one of one of five artists that was led to be the artists for top sports, like the other the card playing cards, so the all the artists in the world, he was chosen to be one of the top five artists to create that particular

space for for for for tops, for cards. Right, So this bottle is not only a good about the drink, but it's also a collective item because this artist is a very very world with nown artist. So that's why you see the three D line of Judah kind of popping out because it's like, um, you know that's the artist natural. So speaking on wis right, like, how do you how does a company like a famus uh opus one?

How how rule we make a company like yours? How do how do we get to that spaces where you go to car bones and you know these is the actually wines that they offer you. How do we get your wine to to to be looked at as a busgious as those type of companies. Yeah, you know what it is is that um a lot of the way that was a real wine question. By the way, that's a high level that's a high level wine right there for sure. And I think the answer to that is

that when you create your own wine, it's like a hierarchy. Right, there's like a certain group of companies that have their hands and their hands on the polst of wine. Right, So if you're able to now create a wine and get linked up with a Southern for an example, who's like the major distributors of wine. These guys have you know, accounts with the Found Blue, they have counts with these

major restaurants. And so once you get involved with them and they are now a lot there, now will be able to then allow other restaurants, bars or clubs to call them and say, hey, do you have the start of my wines and then they have a shipload of

that in the negat center. Then but if you don't have a distributor like like Southern or these other companies, then people you have to do your own thing and like talk to talk to the club yourself, or talk to this person yourself and like, hey, do your mind buying my wine and putting it in putting it up for self there, which usually ask you to get connected

with the distributors exactly. Some funny ships sometimes sometimes you know, I would just look at like like like I would look at uh college or Jay's Instagram, and I would see them drinking a dude yak right, I don't know if I'm pronouncing it right, And I would go and I would go like and and I would search this ship me and diego. I would hit right there. I would go like you see you see you see college Instagram. He's like, yeah, I'm like those bottles right there, I

want to know what those are. And I would go and we would go to the to the thing, to the to total wines or whatever and else, and these people would say, that's a good bottle, but here's the one that's ranked uh this year top or ninety or whatever they say, whatever theever they say in the joint, and we would buy these wines that they recommend that

they and some of them was Southern suck. Yeah, yeah, I mean it all right, somebody else's opinion, man, I mean I mean obviously, like for me, I'm the only black culture winemaker in the world. How about the wh got something to Yeah, you gotta one also yeah yeah, um so, which means that you know, I cracked the market that was never never infiltrated before in stores now in stores in Miami in Miami, yea in the United States. So what happens with the Southern with the Southern distributor

whatever state you're in. If you want to start on my wine, you gotta call the company. Would call them and say, hey, Southern, we wanna you know, five cases of Stide of my wines and then the ship it out so it's there in the state, but you gotta call They gotta call the distributor to order to get that in the stores. And um, like like you know, like you like we said, like this is these these prestigious wine companies that's been around. What made you say

your last name? Because you know, um, why why you didn't want to keep it? Even and just well I thought about that because I wanted to somewhat because like the supposed person doesn't like you as a basketball player, Yeah, but you still want to buy your wine, you know, So like, um, what what made you use your names?

You know? I think the reason why I did it because I wanted something to last for my children, for the family, for the legacy, right, you know what I'm saying, for them to be able to say this is my family's wine. Right. That's why. That's when it comes to business, your last name. Think about all these companies that are

named after their family's last name. I've seen I've seen a clip of that on Instagram the other day, Like that is the last name was the last name, crafts, the last name, all these all these the last names that become brands and you forget it's even the name, and that's what you want to be, just a branded rings. Yeah.

So so for all for all that, you know, economic empowerment, it's about really being able to provide a legacy for my children so when they become my age, they can say, this is my family's wine, you know what I'm saying. So they can have that procetigue conversation with their friends and say, hey, you know we can talk boss talk. You feel me, we can talk that talk because this is my family's wine, you know what I'm saying. So that's why I wanted to name it after like my

last name. For the family. You never had, no, you never had any confusion with Damon. Yeah, yeah, well no not, but not recently. When I first got to the league, asked me like, is that your family? And I talk to my uncle about that. I was like, we are related to the start of Mars with the A instead

of the point guard for the trouble is. Yeah, so actually we do because when the start of Mars came to America, they migrated to different parts of America and through that transition, the lettering was changed in the last name son come from originally start of mars, like y'all, it says a Greek last name or not a Greek draman last name. You played ball something not really okay you you I don't niggers. That was like, man, ain't basketball. I'm trying to take myself. I thought I think about

my questions before I asked. I swore you just gonna say. Yeah's gonna bite. You know, we get the out of shape Olympics. You got we We played handball on Friday. I play who laughing when I saw that handball, like, yeah, making more. I'm gonna take this more national man, I'm gonna making Nashal. It's gonna be for that. It's an old Puerto Rican game, New York puarter. Weegan game. Man sell, you be running this ship right now. I spell a

little man. I got injured, but I fell get my life back together though, But then I got injured that day I was I thought I was doing it with the handball, turned around and ran into a weight. It was literally a weight on the floor, boom, a big football to like this right now, I can't even Holly wall. But I'm I'm gonna come. I'm coming back. So we're gonna invite you to the gage. Hug. You never played handball,

never played handball in life, no community. If you don't know, if you don't handboy, you know way a handball you have been doing the basis of man. Yeah, but so baseball now, I run three miles every day though, So I'm good like about growing up growing up. Man, I just I was in the streets. Man. I wasn't really, I wasn't trying to stay after school. He now missing how the fights on the black now, I wouldn't with none of that. One of the play with toys, I

didn't believe I believe it. I didn't believe that was it was real. I didn't believe I could go to the NBA. Man. But you know, I try to tell my kids to play, you know, because I see these guys get these hunting meals. I'll be like, man, you can't beat that money. Man, I'm gonna how much reps I do. James Hard gonna get mo holes because he got the hunting me I try to tell him, you know, but ship you know, at that age, I just ain't

believe it. That ship, push your baby. Part of the game is making the musical, performing it, making it, definitely making it. Yeah, I like to do shows, but I wear shaves, have my eyes closed, and ship because if I look in the crowd, I forget the words and ship you. I get distracted and forget to some still tipping ship like this ship I did a thousand times. I don't you know you ever your lyrics? If if, if, do you have a backup track? Nah? I'm hip hop, bro,

you hip hop motherfucker. I need a backup tracking everything, backup tracking everything I wanted to do that. I got one track that I don't have the track of board and that's just I'm weeping, you know what I'm saying. I make it clear Like before I performing, I'd be like, hey, I ain't got the shop. Do this don't exist? So don't do we don't know all all the folker's trying to say. I ain't about the voice and mental it's the voice that's it, you know what I mean. That's

what I guy. So actually, but yeah, like for my generation that you can't see Nys come out with, you can't see j come out well, you can't see JA. The kids that our ship was. We were supposed to sound like the records. If we don't sound like the record, we're supposed to sound like a lot of performance to see it better, you know. I mean you can't hear the lyrics after rap over room, but they could be hold you to the same stand now, man, Yeah serious,

like don't about you if you right? I did a show big creaty, send me the vocals early and everything like Yo, bro, comeing to Yo City, let's do this month. I get up there, I forget that motherfucker I did. If it's a hundred times in the car, Bro that I got out there, I fu st jam Bro, I back up track, harold out. So when you do, then you look at everybody. You know, I'm something because you know I was five per cent. And you have to memorize.

You had to memorize your lessons. So somebody told me something. He said, whenever you're trying to memorize something, do some awkward ship while you trying to remember it. So like, you know, take off your socks and take a ship. Remember you and you mention you're gonna do something stupid like a cool like all right, cool, I'm gon y'all I ain't ever gonna forget that because I was taking off my socks and taking this ship and I remember

that ship. Hey man, it works. You gotta listen if in order to memorize amount of time, because you gotta you forgotten it. You get you. You're a smoker. You're a smoke. I respect that. But whenever you're trying to memorize something that you really need to do, you should do it in the spoke with it way. You know what I'm saying, Like, you know, do it in the shower. You know what I'm saying, with the clothes on. So like, yeah, put put it on a swimsuit and get in the shower,

and like just keep saying it to yourself. You'll be so awkward. That's what you did was so awkward. It's memorable. It's memorable and and and I'll stick with you. Try that. I definitely trying because I want to just some crazy just gotta be like a little bro. I was gonna do like you know, and you you remember everything. I'm gonna try to secrets. Man, you know what I'm saying.

I can't shut up for you all right now. You never worked with Dutor Dreke man, I had a doctor dre b, but I can't say I worked with him. I had him, motherfucker, but I left in the scope, so I didn't never get it clear, never said no. I got it from. Uh, what's the boy name? Teddy? Is his name over that he ran? Yeah? Yeah, his name is Teddy? I forgot his name. He was he was he doing some about ship. Now I wasn't in the industry long enough to remember the motherfucker's like that.

But it was a bad motherfucker. But I never got it clear that. I never put it out. You ever had, what was what was your worst game you ever had? To you the worst game? Man? You wish you just do this the worst you want. Man, listen, let me think my worst game. I never thought about this before. Um man, Uh my worst game maybe first play. My worst play was in the playoffs against the heat That was with the Knicks. That's when I hit the five. Yeah, I know, I just cut my hand. It was after

the game. I think it was like Game three and we lost. You know, sometimes after the game you're like hit the side of the wall, like, but hit the side of the wall. So when I hit the side of the wall, it was. I caught the edge of the Stinger ship and start of walking into the locker room, hit back my teammates the fire sticks head back with us. A lot of people thought I was like founding plus the five sticks. You know. It was one of those like you know, damn, you know, one of those moments

where you're like, the game's over. We lost playoffs, you hit the wall. But I caught the edge of the five Stingers ship, so it sliced my hand, and so I walked into the locker room. My man was like, yo, Stap, look at your hand. I looked down, like oh, because I felt nothing. So I had to you know, I mean, it was like spleeding all over the place. My man had to come and like put stitches in right then and there I got about got about maybe like forty

five stitches, and it wasn't a little bit. It was one centimeter from my nerve, and if I caught my nerve, I have lost my out lost offer into my hand. Just so you know, I used that as an example to my kids when I coached to what not do Yeah, because it's like it's like everyone does it right. Sometimes some guys kick over the chair, some guys like you see some players flip over the you know, the training table when they out when he was upset. Remember when

they lost. They even give a person a five. Yeah, I mean you have you have the rubbing in the PADDs when the Pistons, when the Pistons jumped into the stands Steven Jackson and there, yeah, and then were jumped

into this in the crowd. But you have those emotions after the game where you know, you feel like you gotta let that out, and sometimes it happens in the locker room with a lot of you guys may not see it or hear it, you know what I'm saying, But you're here like the reporters saying, oh, well, there is an altercation in locker room. Guys are upset about the loss. But inside of the locker rooms, like, hey man, it's like face to face, what we're gonna do? You

know what I'm saying. So it's like one of those moments where the emotions hit and I hit the wall, but I caught the edge of the fire Stingo sliced my hand up. That was That was like one of my lowest moments I've had in my career where I felt like I get dunked on or nothing, like I ain't dump on you. And no, it's been some players where you know what I'm saying, like some casts of PROB like a dunk or two whenever, like a dunk on moment you're dunk on me, I'm done. I'm coming

back at you. Oh you dunk on me? Okay, cool, I'm gonna help you up off the ground. Good job, guys. No no, no, no, no, no, I'm coming back at you the next player, like yo, mellow, bring it over here. You know what I'm saying. And we're getting active. And most most players, you know, they know that, like if like for example, like if somebody scoring on a player and it's like, man, listen, you gotta get them back. Yeah. Like because everybody think all rappers get along, the old

rappers know each other. I think everyone thinks that about all basketball players over the long there's time. There's time in the game, like somebody says something crazy, and you know, they're like a studio game, so they're just saying, oh, yeah, you know what, like you just in the third I'm gonna see after the game. After the game, it's like where you at there on the bus like man ain't coming off the bus there? All right? You get that at one more with Steven Francis now drop about to

take his head off. It was in Houston. I dunked on y'all main and I screamed like yeah, Steve put his four in my throat and I'm like no, I'm like twenty years old. He kind of give me one of those. I'm like, so, I'm about to go back out of my team and hold me back, Joe Johnson, hold me back, time out call. I go to the sideline. I'm like, coach, got I gotta get him from let this slot like, lamar, look at me. I want to look at him, like look at me. So I look

at him. He's like, calm down, just relax, breathe take it in. So all right, coach. So I looked at him. I calmed down. I breathe. I took it in. The game was played. I had that thirty five. We won the game. Houstons. Now in Phoenix, we're in the street. They're staying here and they went to this restaurant. I'm outside of the restaurant like, yo, I know he's in there, your as well, telling to come out of Fathe Yeah. The home is like from I think it's what Orlando

or Rockets is right, one of the two. The home is like, amorr, we know what it is. Just let it go, let it slide. So we're still there when it's more the Cigarthur little spot around the corner went back. The guys still looking out the window like I'm like, we're still here to the home is like it was like our two hours living always like this and say, don't even worry about the man. Let us slide, bro, because you get a twist of y'all from the hood. Yeah,

but all y'all like my hood, everybody gold teeth and dread. Yeah, yeah, facts Poe County. You come to the hoods like you see nothing but gold teeth and dress and looking at you like, what are you doing here? Sold five man Steve friends and my gut me, I love him man. I was always respecting the forts game, and after that moment, I kind of squats it all and we never really we never really talked about it. We never brought the con set and up. It was always respect when I

saw him, you know what I'm saying. So even to this day, it's always respecting love. It's not even when we don't even take it, there no more you feel it like that's going that's in the past. But you know, I give him all respect, everything he's going through, everything you went through. I give nothing but love and blessing from my way to his. You know what I'm saying, So we can keep stagging and keep growing. You know what I'm saying, Like there's no there's no hit on

my side. You feel me. That's what's just there, like you know, like when you're the rookie, it's there like hazing or like like you know, like, uh, who do we have on him? He had for Trening Dad James on right and Tren m J said, Yo, when he first came got in the game, he flat out didn't like ti I And I said why and he said, you know, Tia just didn't show him love, he didn't whatever.

And I was like, yo, I kind of had to take t o side, not to mean, because what I'm being is, we don't know, like like I when they're a new guy, we don't know if you're gonna be here for a long time. We don't know if you're gonna be up. Is it like that you get Rickie Hazing we got. I mean I had to carry that. I had to bring in some doughnuts and orange juice every morning. Wait what Christopa Creme? I had to bring Christmpa creme donuts and orange juice every morning for PRAP

for the team. So I brought in two dozen of like Christopah Creme donuts and orange juice. That was cool.

But I had my one thing. I had my seat on the bus not set in the back of the bus, and I was a rookie and there was somebody else the seat and I was sitting there before and it was like, yo, this when I see him, Like I wasn't getting from nuts but nothing so but I respected the fourth that and then he let me actually keep the seat but on the only rook as And that got was you know, it's just you know, bringing donuts in the morning and orange juice, and I did every

morning for them with other Haze you've seen you've seen them, like, yeah, I seen cats got a brand like a door explore backpack to the game. Yeah, Door score a backpack the whole season broil unto the first game of now seOne makes someone do that. The brotherhood, it's part of the culture. It's for fun and you gotta you gotta wear that next brotherhood, how about you, you felt like that, you feel like the older generation embraced you when you first came out or how was it when you Because I'm

gonna go ahead and answer the question. For me, I did not feel like the older generation embraced me at all. I thought they would look at me like, harry up, littlegg get your little fifteen minutes to get it ain't hazy. But that was enough to be like older niggers at that time if they can't because you know, that's the generation before me, besides Cane and them's the hippote hoppity dudes. Those dudes didn't show me. They were like ahead, like

that's how I felt. It was like get up out of here, And I was like, okay, that's why you felt like here forever. If it was like that at first, But after a while, you know, I got a lot of love from cats like be scoff face, so you know, I can't complain. Man, they didn't get a lot of love that first. It was like at first, I was like, who was this dude from the North Side. It was just like that from everybody, you know, north side of the side when nobody really messed with everybody was on

the south side. So you know, I had to make everybody respect the north side, you know what I'm saying. So that's what that was. You're the only one from the north side, the first one from the north side really like uh, you know, the Mike Jones, Poe Walls and them, they came after, you know what I'm saying. So it was it was a whole different thing. Really. It was like you know, Kristin Blood was like the north side south side ain't really messed with each other.

So that's the DJ. Screw them. They didn't like us, you know what I'm saying, Right, that's why they ain't like us. You want to ask, but doing that, right, were on the side, but we had to create our own because they had you know, they ain't missing with us, you know, and ended up being the sound of the whole state basically at the point now every I mean they really created, you know, there was the landmark everything.

It's when we came. We did get a lot of success though you know I was too though, you know what I'm saying. So it was a little you know, befinitially, but then you know, eventually we teamed up and got it together and you know, squashed it. Rest in peace, screw yeah, shout out here. Me and him got together. I write came out heart focause when I was I wasn't even put with this music out here. Yeah, we all a super legend. Like a fresh shot time baby, it's shot a clock shot. I'm a rock shot guy.

Just to kill over there. I feel like you was a killer dude. I drink number the reverenside. Okay, I don't know what that means. That rever sign is most smooth. Yeah, and what's the other ship? It's just regularly got silver clad them out of the other ship. Yeah, that's that's that's that's that's yeah. Come on, where the shots at? Right? All right? My ma, wana, you know what. I don't want to God damn mama, wanna. I don't want to where the shot the cops at? Right? Yeah? We get one,

a couple of hand, we get one. All right. We're gonna send you the bill even though there ain't no bill. Just set you up a receipt for over these teams. We're gonna really drunk more Manna get ain't you got cool? I really except that more till you know what I'm saying that count ye yeah, Lee outside trying to get very kissing. I don't let me give him. Let me get my shot ready. Yo, yo, A friend, I gotta tell you, I thought you was frying with that Mama

Wana ship. You you're taking it a little too far. I really like you really going and we push out? You got more Mama Wana. Mama's outside the domic It's supposed to be run based, but it got a bunch of herbs in it too. I just kiss coming hand the builds, making the make up a bill. You're going, You're going to poppy steak after this water that a line man. We need rain, soottle good listen. I want a little drink solo, lollollow, we get your we get

cloud was smooth. Yeah. I Actually your worst game or your worst moment, what's that one moment that you know you dominated? Like, what's your best game or your best you know moment that you was like on fire? You felt like he was using steroids and he wasn't using steroids. What's that one? Uh? Probably my rookie year. That's when you got both of the year right, Yeah, that same year,

I was nineteen two thousand two. Actually I got the rook I got the world came and within the two thousand three years like that following year, because the season with two thousand two to two thousand three. But the game was like I was playing against Minnesota and I don't know, Stephen gar Net has something with each other. Steph Margaret was with us in Phoenix, going that was

with the Timberwolves. So Stephen going that, going back the back, and all of a sudden, I hear steps say, we'll sta better than you when you was a rookie like that. He threw you in there playing together together Minnesota when they're both were like younger. So so that game, actually, you know, me and going that actually really good friends now, like we're very good friends. And there was no there was not a lot of a lot of trash talk between the twos and the like. But he talks trash like,

I ain't gonna lie. This is a fan. I don't really know nothing personally. I'm talking about as a person just watching he talked to himself. Oh he so I had to realize to you when he talking to him. Yeah, so I had to realize. Yeah, so I had to realize that, Like when I fled against I got, I got, did you beat it down a little bit more? He was like what does he basically saying, it ain't going me. He's talking to himself, but he's talking to himself, but he's like sounding like he teld me you and he

talking about you. He's talking about you, like wait, so talking to him like he's yeah, it was you know what he did without without noticed later on, like within within his career. What it was for him is a way to get him going. And I used that same tactic even when I got a little older, like I'm gonna find a way to get myself mentally motivated to play at a high level. So that's what he was doing. But I was nineteen. I didn't know what he was doing.

I'm thinking, he's talking to me like so, so we started going back and back, back back and back, going that score, high score, going that square score. So at the end of the game, I had like thirty eight, like seventeen as a nineteen rookie against like one of the world's greatest power forwards in the game. So from that point I realized, like I'm here now. And then I played Tim Dunning in the playoffs and I had like, you know, I was like thirty thirty at the game.

Don't talk no ship, you don't talk no trash, being fundamental. Yeah, but he gets all the offensive rebounds. You look up, he getting all the little easy basket put back. He got twenty five and twelve like wait, yeah he sho was crazy. Yeah, but then but that's why it's that's why it's the greatest of all one of the greatest power forces of all time because he was so efficient and he paid the game with a sense of intelligence to what you don't even see how it gets his

numbers crazy. Now, did you play against David Robinson? Yeah, that was Robinson that It was one of those highlights where you go dogged it on Richard Jefferson and it was you're doing learn a lot of people them in the basket one of you, but you got Richard Jella said ugly j R. J know, he got a little y'all, a little he's on like color commentating broadcast. You know what happened. He was he was little rotation whenever you latter rotation and putting you in the basket. I'm tucking

you and the ball. Yeah, and you and you proved it. And you know what was good about you? Um you reminded me of a newer Charles Oakley Anthony Mason, like that, stop to play like Charles Browne because you're like a power forward. So to me, it was like you were like the new era of the hard big man balling and you don't do a lot of Yeah. I mean I played. I played with a sense of like I wasn't never like upset when I played, like those guys remind me of like angry guys who really can't play.

You never smiled on the court. I mean sometimes I smile, smile, you know, as I was in the stands like like but yeah, no, I mean I enjoyed the game, like I played with a sense of like aggressiveness. But it wasn't never like a sense of like disrespect, you know what I'm saying, Like I always respect every player I played against, and we talked before the game after the game, but it was a sense that once you step on the court, like it's like like my team versus yours.

It's like me versus you mind we mindo? You know so? And I think The game is similar now, but it has changed a bit because guys are more friendly now. It's come on, it's we were still off the court, but on the court, it's like we're trying to this is my team, this is your team we're playing against. You weren't have a lot of guys that you know, we didn't have like the Big Three and all that stuff back then. But it doesn't seem like it's too friendly.

It seems that way at times, that marketing strategy. But I think I think guys are just from a different era. Guys are from a different era, different upbraining. When I grew up, we played like outdoors of the park. These kids nowadays are in the gyms with a trainer. They learning yours that you're learning all these different moves, and they had trainers. Four time trainers. For us was like, hey, play the game at twenty one, play five on five.

It's like no rebound, can't take the ball back, go back up with it, No, you call your on files. These kids got their own trainers. They're on the referees in the gym. It's a difference to different area, which I respected because the game's evolving. Well, this is a different era than when I played. There were no Patrick win camp, there was no Michael Jordan camp. Jordan Jordan was the first one that had like a flight school where players could go to his like like academy and

and and practice and train. Well. He was the first one to do that. And I was back into like in the mid to late nineties. How do you get that? How do you get the invite to the McDonald's game. I mean I was. I was. I was the number one playing the country. It was me. It was me and Lebron James and le Bron is the junior. That's how good he was. He was incredible. Man. I'm like,

it's like, yeah, this kid from Akron is amazing. His name of Lebron James, Like who So I was in uh so I heard about him and then I saw him play. I'm like, yeah, he's better than I am. Wow. I was, I was ating thirty five, sixteen and seven in high school. I'm like, yeah, yeah, this kid he got sixteen and seven and he only played two years of high school two years. I'm like, Bron got it all. I'm like, this kid was he was like sixteen. I

was seventeen pushing eighteen. He was like, no, look behind the backs, flying through the Arab first layout, win me on the break. I'm like, oh, this is it. I ain't never seen him like this before. Get some more that stack you got, your brother? Why do you name your first album already platinum? As a because I was already platinum. You didn't wanted you to say that. That's exactly the exactly what it was how I felt, you know what I'm saying, And that's what I meant, you

know with it. It was like I already already went platinum in the streets out here, you know, even though y'a don't even know who I am, you know. So that's what it was, man, And that's like really my main My main, uh things that I've done have been independent in underground, so you know, I feel like I'm really an underground artist. I love it. I don't I don't never put out albums like to go top ten. I don't even make clean versions a lot of time.

You know what I'm saying, It would be the radio tell me, hey, man, you want to make this claim, you want to play this, you know, So that's just how I move. I'm direct with my people. You know who followed me, you know, And I just stick to trying to, you know, get them what they want. And it's been working. Man. I think you're tripping. I think you need to put out a lot of more music. And you don quick time with slie real quick you ready, quick time, quick time with slide. So that's tip of slide.

It's just um gonna randomly ask you some questions. You picked one, just one of the other. All right, it's just no nothing real all you're ready, kids walking in, all right, cool, Let's let's get this knocked out there too. Damn okay. I'll right, I'm reading Kobe or Jordan Jordan Jordan's I think it should have been Kobe on the Brons, But I give me that. You set me up and ready you bet you better ask this one right Comphoenix, New York, Comphoenix Parts, Ward City, New York. Thank you,

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mean could independent? I stay independent? Man ain't nothing like Vans. Okay, I'm gonna say NBA overseas, Big three, I'm gonna say NBA. But overseas it's a different vibe. Why not trying to Filly New York, Atlanta. You're going to Athens, Greece for real, Madrid, and you're going to like you know, you're gonna Spain. You're gonna like the different like exotic places. It opens your world. But I would choose the NBA because it's the highest level as far as travel wise, churches in Europe.

It's really like that. Okay, So loyalty or respect, loyalty lot, it's not my chest Rod or Kevin de vat ship damn shots like there though, I see, I'm going I don't after this or Kevin Durant only because Kevin Durant is like like he's a Martian broth of him. Man, it's a crazy He's a Martian man. Never seen nothing like it before. I used to go see him in college, right Texas, Yeah, Texas exactly. This is this might be hard for some one of y'all Miami or l Ah.

Remember y'all of Miami's completely said, but I am from l A. As well said, you can go, Bothy. That's tough to Gothays do that. Judging how most times spend I would say Miami, I spend more time out here. I mean, you are from Florida. I am from Florida A lot of time in l A. It's a good place too, man, my favorite right, I love the movie industry. I love the entertainment industry. M as far as like, you're living in my comfort zone. She was in Miami.

That's good. I don't know. We're gonna love at this one. David Robinson on Pat Ewing. I mean, listen, I'm going with the Emerald. I want with David Robinson, Right, all right, cool, this is this is kind of easy. One nineties next verse the nineties balls, ninety schools, like a lot of like that wasn't too easy because that means you should invests. Yeah, because that was the more franchise type of type of thing. Yes, yeah,

I'm still going nineties balls. And you said pistons, But what's your favorite era at basketball, like, whether you played in it or not. My favorite earra is probably the nineties Jordan nineties Barkley Robinson. You said, all right, you know, I'm saying you have all Clyde, you had all these, all these this talent. Yeah, karmelone stop the sack sack came, you know, was Sho was drafting the nineties. Yes, like Penny A people that fit in the nineties there breaking

back even the nineties. What's your favorite ARA in hip hop? Both of your nineties, that's say nineties. But give me, give me all jay Z all that ship you know DMX I got nines also all over that motherfucker you know. Uh yeah, I like he's been fast them. But um, I think I think right now, I've been listening to I've been listening to a lot of eight Ship. Yeah, we gotta say rest in peace, Prince Market, d oh Many Man, rest in peace, Legends Man, Little Fat Boys,

not the last member, this one more Rush. He poured a weekend too, man. Yeah, man, not for for Latinos. He meant a lot to us man. He was a beacon for us man for sure. Yeah, that hit that hell crazy. So don't you got some liquor. Let's let's all I say about the peach presh market right now. I need I work with Mark Tell okay, that's all. I work with a drink blute. Man, it's really good. Conyak. It's like it's like, you know, smooth man, you gotta

try it out. You're the brand ambassador, Brandon Bassador. Yes, those vintage frames right there, Venice frame shout out my boy telling you know what I'm saying, Court Sapiro, I'm saying reading my boy. I left the Cardia's at home. You know, only read my boy. Man. That was all question I was gonna ask you because I always see you, Uh, what do you prefer Vence frames? Cardies? I mean, you know it's just you mayweather the party. What we cardier ate up nothing drink champs well, hell know with the

it's just the same. Whatever the vibe is. You know, I want to be up very winning. Too much. Jury. I'm like my eighth day running out of clothes in Miami, flooded out of the house like backdrop right, like that Hart, you had to go to that, but dare yourself to get that suit right? Is not something you can order. That's a that's damn damn, my man, that's the hard man, that's quite the harder to go up there just kind of you know, pick out the difference that you got

to get measured or like they're ready already. You know you can manage. You pay up the fabrics, to pay out the design what you want, so you know, it's just never see somebody else with that that particular. Now, how is it to because like how is it to? Because that's it's not black home, but it's black adjacent when you get it from from from that is that is that that's something you you're looking to support goocy

more or it's that for you? Listen man, listen man, I mean the answers to pick the cotton anyways for all these have fashion brands. I'm not represented, ain't the baby. I don't know what you said. Is that I'm saying they answers to pick the cotton anyways for fashion? Wow? So am I not going to represent like this? This is what we is what they work for, This is what they know. What I'm saying, enslaves are for represent you know what I'm saying. They're hard work, you feel me.

But there's kind of time in a place where you want to not be as to vanity driven back. You know what I'm saying. It's a fine line of being like overally flashy with the vanity and being more humble with the approach. And then there's also times when you want to pull out your you know what I'm saying, your your wardrobe, as times you want to come fall back and chime place for everything you can see yourself a foodie, y'all? Foodie? Yeah yeah, what's your favorite restaurant?

Go ahead to the restaurant in Miami anywhere? Favorite restaurant if you have on one twelve here, Mr Childs and as time, gracis Maxie's kind of you gotta come to the crib ships. Papa Dolls is for people out of town. Yeah, now Papa Dolls is good, but we got on the East coast on you know, you got a New Yorker Miami, So anything that's not dead be exclusive to be right exactly. And I like it at the airport too as well.

It's good. Ain't talking down you said? Grace Graces isn't like you know, man, you gotta come to the crib. You come to Houston, I'm gonna take you let me take you somewhere. But that's what I do. I do this. This is what I do. You know, I'm gonna foody for real. Yeah, and how about you, I'm gone to the crib. I don't think for restaurants anyway. You don't have to be my oh man, you know everything that

you're kind of you know, being shut down. I been those seats for four years coming and you've been out of touch a bit. But in Miami done, I haven't showed like the energy at the popular station over Carbone Carbone I went. I went there also too nicely gonna let's be careful. Now that's my first time they actually own with your taling positively spicy Regatoni, Spicy Magatoni. It's different right now, Faith's be careful. A favorite restaurant in

the world. Yeah ready, Hotel coastings in Paris COASTI okay, okay, okay, but I don't know what that is now? You you ain't, Yeah, if you want, I'm like you would know what it's called. Hotel Coast. This is where coast and you're walking there and nothing to say about landing up parents about you people, man, I guess plus Paris down remember that. I'm gonna try to Yeah, Paris and Mother's bruty. But this out here right now my second favorite moving up. I got to

be called bones man. I agree, Man, amazing where is that? And it's like we're going to market stake Pard. You ain't in Houston, Bro, Maestro pop because it seemed like I did the big up poppy Stick when you just said that the snaps. Let me rewind real quick because I want to make sure we're Claire poppy Stick. It's hard too. I wouldn't there yesterday. And what you would you would you eat a poppy coast rip body? Oh? Yeah,

not anytime at least get honest, sea man. But it's brunch like it depends on what you look looking for. A seafood is all different places for different you know. But if any of y'all come to Houston, Bro, I got you. Okay, Oh that's right, because he got I'm about to say we're the fattest city in America. We got the most restaurants that anywhere in America, Bro, Houston, but show its big facts. Yes, come in Houston, bro, we got all of its food. I'm telling you, on

every level with hood ship whatever you want. I got you Byrons, barbeque, Turkey Leghood. All that ship like Turkey legg h Turkey Leghood. It's kind of Turula. Every famous rapper in the motherfucking world is at Turkey Leghood when they come to Houston. You can go to the page every the baby album, Rabber Little Baby, The all of motherfucker's is that turkular ship like bro have y'all. It depends.

I'm a coach, you guy, so I don't need coaching food, but seafood doesn't have to fish accidents culture, but I need carry on. Ok you gotta stock, you gotta put you on to carry your guy. I don't know what it is you try until you get into it. Everybody's not to carry off a capias for everybody for the same kid carry I don't carry. Just want to kiss. He's got it right now for forever, right you now? For Lifeason? Oh yeah, it is cold. He's saying, a

couple of stairs too. Okay, you want something, lebron Hey, I mean on the shot right here, that's white. It's black owned, black owned, black owned, black owned. That Yes, that's back and we're stand down. Let me try that, boss, don't say black owned right, do say black own black ownership right. It's cool. It's like herbal rum, think of it. I'm that's that's Dominican. That's that's pay bullshit. To take our shots together. Let me take your stots with yourself.

You got the last. That's just smooth like. That's what We're gonna tell you what you want in this game. We give our people our flowers, man, but they're alive. You know what I'm saying. I want to pick both of your brothers up man. Take you for hang out. Coming both questions, but take hanging out of thinking about being here. You'll both legends and both real ones. I want to salute y'all to your face, you know what I'm saying, and tell your shots to be to the coach.

You know what I'm saying. How much both of y'all man have contribute it and we saluted if we respected to be honor me stot a little black bo he told. Shout out Gil Green and Jogs. Good looking out. That's good, God damn it. Good looking out y'all. Damn and the mother sucking this one is good. But I don't know. Shout out of Norry man look when I was the Corona face of the Corona, you know, and it thought it was a death sentence, and it was checking on

me every day. Yeah, like the first rapper mother, you know. And he would check on me every day. Man, he gonna he got my brother for life. Man. For he was just like yeah, good bro. He didn't check off. He had the works of the worst. Like when everyone who had it was did like so I just was like, I ain't gonna lie. I was nervous, nervous, like I was like you face, So face was scary too. It was bad for face. Man, it sounded bad. Now I didn't call a part of me more to cut you off.

I didn't since I called face, I didn't on nobody who had it. I texted him, but I did not because when I called face, he sounded bad. He had me scared. Bro. I was like oh, because he was just like yeah, I don't know. And I was just like, is he is this playing around? Like? It sounded so bad? I thought he was playing it. Don't start Face a funny dude, you know what I'm saying that he'll play a joke on you. And then when I realized this

ain't little joke. I was. I was scared, but I would check on you every day like you guys, and um, yeah, man, I was glad you pulled through it man through and then that the ship and it was crazy because I hit you seeing the Texas ship again and you're like I said, I was not to say, you know, you know I was happy he was dead, and say, you know what I'm saying, because you still got family out there, so it's it's family good. Like you know, the house th ain't little, My mama and my son ain't lose

power or water or whatever. But you know, my creb flooded out on the phone. My ship gone, So I don't really want to go home ship, but I got insurance though, you know, I feel like, you know, it's time for some new ship. You know, I don't never be a text time and she was. They got to be concip of it is a pipe in surance. She supposed to have this covers because I like, at my m you gotta actually get flooded shirts, don't you know

you got separate. We got water and floods in Houston and out and so we already you know it's something we all. You gotta remember like a US ago a flood and Houston remembers like always like California, how home insurance they still make shirts, right, but they still made man, man, I would get at all that ship in one bro, because, like I say, it's a new world ween this winter ship. We never seen this ship, they say since nineteen thirty. Bro.

But because pipes busting them in my cithern you guys have to have a warning like this could we just we had? Was went to us like they said the temperature was gonna drop, right, so I didn't snow dipping on. I just seen in fort Ward the cars piling up and ship. I'm thinking black ice on the road. I'm thinking I'm gonna be stuck at home. I'm single. I don't want to be at home by myself, like fucking I need to be mobile. So I dipped to Miami, like you know, thinking that was gonna be the worst.

I never knew he would lose power. I never knew pipes with buss in the ceiling and flood in my career, but like had no funking idea we never deal with this snow. How many interess know it was like we've never seen that nothing like ever, bro. So it's like in the power the political system was all funked up, like the governor's I can't and trying to flout the king game man every day people for people day lovely like men, listen, if you what you're gonna do, Yeah,

somebody stay there. I'm like, oh my god, I'm gonna stay here. Guys. Not true and you're text that's your rolling and you're supposed to be the head of the ship like a captain. You go down with your ship, right right, I mean yeah, you go down to the ship to an extent that ship is not going down, saying it's not going down, Like holy, he gotta stay man, you good, you gotta stay cool, Like hey, guys, take

the job. He's not pe so he's keeping trade, shout out trade the truth and yeah, I'm gonna beat you frontline, you know, giving water to the people. That's like, yeah, it's not bad people dyeing kids, serious cold deal. Well, now you know what I think. I went up to sixty six today, so I think it's clearing up crazy. It might gonna be right back at seven. People weren't ready for them. Their chane is over hundreds done Okay,

let me let me get that right there. There's a couple of thousand deaths on carbon monoxide because the pod was out so they got generated on it. They done because the carbon monoxide was that I didn't know that. You got the post like this series. That's serious and that's what I'm saying, like the political people, is there a possibility that this could actually happen in Miami. It's happening. Happened. They never happened in Texas, so it could happen out here.

That's what I'm saying that the global warming ship, that ship something it's real. Wow, if you're aware, like hurricanes is coming along, you might have some real living in Miami. I've been here during I was you become a damnt like I could. I could seriously just look like it's gonna range living out here like like this should turn just tells you different like I remember, like when I first moved out here, I would you never believe me when I told you it was gonna be a storm.

You're like whatever, I like the storm man, like you didn't believe you didn't know it? Right, I'm differently smelling that ship like yeah, I got I've been toying mgando a hurricane was coming. They made me flying. I told you there's a hurricane coming. But Gil Green he cleaned that whole ship up. Ironically, we're Gil Green spot like that, like that video. So we vote equal, and there was a hurricane courage. Ain't tell you and I wanted to. I'm telling them, you know, I can't say too long

at the shoot. I gotta go and I gotta put up my shots. I gotta the board up my crib. So the label made me film. As soon as the film was over, they got me the funk about it there because there was like your insurance risk, so they had to give you the funk about it that I wanted to stay. I wanted to saying it's just Macgrave in real life. But then the video editing they made

that ship. Let me tell you like this, living in the condos ain't better in a hurricane then living in the because the house you you lose electricity power your how you think you don't lose with the christity and oh you know not. They got backup generators, baby in the right cont generates. Yeah, that's a glass for me. They said, go to jail. Ship it out here you have a three to four backup generators. Cool, He'll listen

the whole block me. All my bid will be on power like watching something away like bar rescue or something like what the that doesn't matter like at all bar rescue? You ever see bar rescue? That's this hilarious. This guy comes in at you get your bar popping and now you have sixty percent. God bless him. But this guy you see hotel is possible. I was more. Guys, you gotta watching. I appreciate that. I'm still I'm super kind

of trying to find a new show. You you know, I'm TV watch up that I'm not a watching not much hip hop cover hip hop up covers. This good. We just had everybody on the whole cat thank you and should every boris, but first taking fucking m skipping them. That's the only mother if any anybody you ever got negative press, you want to beat them up? For sure? Yeah, listen, like a few cats and you said that way too fast. I'm not gonna push the button. But it's more just like,

but how are you what are you thinking? Ah, that'sn't really mean no, listen, guy, don't understand how like some of the reporters will say things that are not totally true life but can infect the way the public perceived a player. I'm not saying this is my case. What I'm saying I see it happens a lot where someone can say certain things based upon them trying to either elevate themselves in that space or either trying to like

diminish that player. I'm not saying this is my opportunitary situation, but I see I have it before. And then so therefore the player don't get a chance to respond because they're not what they don't want to be confrontational. So therefore the best ideas like to see that the person said, hey, we didn't have a conversation, that's my guy, Stephen. They keeping behind with everything, so it's never it's never history.

Those guys who are like not very recognized or like hi mom, you know, one of those type of guys, and then they also get to get get the camera in front of him and they want to try to talk all big and you know, like wait, hold on, you're not that guy. Yeah, you guy, you're just trying to use trying to use someone else's name to promote your status. Like no, that's that doesn't work because you're lying, can not be honest to not you do not understand

the scenario. You're just trying to make yourself, you know, valuable in your space, Like, no, you know how about you? You ever got what's the worst thing you heard about yourself? And I had so much bad about me? I don't give a Like I'll be on the shade ring room constantly about ship. I say, but I realized I had a communication. I'm funked up with communication. Like even when I try to say ship, like I don't mean no harm,

it come out bad. So I'm just used to the ship, like I get dogged they'd be Damn they're cutting me out. Damn the abandoned me from being black. I'll kind of ship. That's what I don't getting to all the man. I mean, it's everyone's an opinion. How the opinions are wrong based upon the dark side, right, So I'm not even getting into the space of like trying to tap into where you're seeing things because you're not seeing things clearly. So

therefore I'm not even to entertain the conversation. Wow, but let me as you want? Does it to tell the guy? But I said you to let it slide. But then if you see and you said you just said you want to ask to that one question? What what what are you thinking? You said that? No? Yeah, I mean no, I mean I asked a question at it making a point. Yeah, I just watched by asking one of these thinkings like why would you think? Wh would you just say these

things on national TV? If it's not true? First of all, and then I know you're trying to like tvate your brand? Why would you go? How do you wait? Though? Shade on it? Right? You don't see what I'm saying about you? If what's the worst thing you ever heard about yourself? I ain't heard no bash it about myself. I just got impeccable media. I heard I was cube, and I was like, it's kind of true. They do be called you white boys. Sometimes I'll be seeing that and I'd

be like, fuck you, I'm cute. I'm just seeing those comments and that because the white boy don't look at me like a white boy. So what you can ask something? No, I'm not tracking she turned up. Man, it was whitey, but it doesn't say if it's white dot That's what I'm saying. Hey, So what happens I feel you feel I'm saying, oh you don't if it's ain't never as pussy, I eat to look pussy. It's don't ask me and even thought about what you are down Just so are

you right now? Ain't gonna know that you are? Because you are you? You want to drink, I'm gonna actu you. Yeah, it's me. I don't know with your face shows you do coming to like took a the way and I'm telling sho, I think a little. I'm taking little shot that ship and found press and found bright sound and you know what got me over to join a ship. We joined the Night Talents together and I was like,

maybe she didn't really mean to do that. Yeah, to take a shot that kept out to drink, I'm trying to spill it get Oh yeah it's not water, chaps water. I wanted to water chancettle, little brothers school man, keep it in bro drink. Let's go Dan, your kiss came to walk, but I was late. Well, let's make some mois, bring take up, bring up ship, drink cats, sports, going on back, drink sports, baby brow you're doing man, We got in to booby confessions, all types of shaping guys.

What's what's the worst press you've ever wading about yourself or heard about. They said, we all got faith, we all took one of my eyes out and got fake eyes like that's something to be like, biggie, wait, can't drop why man, why make up some incredible stuff? They said, we got fake eys early locks day. He took one of the eyes out, so we got have a lazy eye like being. That's that's you have some stacks. This is stats, this is stats ship. You gotta give him

stat get scar, give him some of that. I hold you come on, maybe the presentation is with beautiful look at that. And that's the one from Israel, right, this one. That's what you want. You want Israel or you want me whenever I'm taking California from Calie. So that's the worst ship for um. So worst than that, it definitely has to be some worst. I mean, I don't know

that the media they got good videas. No, I got all county ship, holy moodly lacking mode man, holy, I went from that's all because this this ship is good. It's easy drink, man, like this just a nice, easy, easy drink, you know, easy can take down. It's not even like a heavy. When you drink wine, what you drink, don't drink red wine? I see you just sipping on

some bread. Mr Lee speaking on the wall. On the wall veno um pops introduced me to but with camus god this knee um a pops is a red wine drinking but with camus prisoner prisoner prisoners heard Scott, Yeah what it was glass at um Uh it was good. Gotta for sure, pretty sure. Oh you gotta come from Do you want to clean? Yeah? You need, you need that good red cup. You need to see. It's how you don't worry nobody doing. You see how you pulled back on the pole. Yeah, yeah you got you got

you that motherfucker. Yeah, that's that good red. It's the first time we drank red wine on drink chaps a man black black. I'm saying, yes, baby, it's all good. We've been here. We don't win through everything. And kiss we heard you were coming seventeen hours ago. Yeah oh yeah.

Just to address that issue, ladies and gentlemen, it's Drake Champs full that it's missed the lead full because whenever I got a prior engagement, Drake Champs affiliated Mr Lee starts calling me from about yo daddy, you know, and today yesterday it was a long night. No he called me. He did the friendship corporate call. Yeah, bro, you know, come through. Then they start, didn't get what you need my car service, you know what I mean? You know, but we ain't gonna talk about that. Take that. I

was late, you know what I mean. He actually called me. We on the we're on the way to dinner, me at Gilly the Kid. I said, we're gonna turn to the date, the double date into double negroes. Let's go, let's go. We went to Albani's a trouble mooster. I ain't anything. Blake was so clean they could have just used for another The next table, we get a call, then have death Jail come pull up. We gotta do the we gotta do the remix year. I gotta go back that right now, we're gonna be hit at Biggest

said you gotta go to car bombs. You gotta go to car shut shut that up for me. Yeah, yeah, neis be hitting me like I got the plug. I don't really got the blood, isn't it? Isn't it? When he got the player No, and the trowbody really got the blog. I gotta for you. You gotta blog. I gotta blog. I just sucking about my want why tomorrow. But let's go that there. We got there. But you ate it in car boons in New York. Never, I never meant it. I want you to kill your New

Yorker man. Just act like you did. I talking with you. It's room for something news right now. Now, Yeah, we're going, we go, we go, we go, ma up and then but I got Yanne. I was here for that one service, like the service of the door, the service of it. It's like you got because I feel like they you don't have a way to the like everyone in the whole thing serving, and that ship makes you feel good like the food is actually but besides that, I'm talking

about nor the service is so excellent. Stabbed on the work is yesterday. He didn't even know he did some hardy ship. I haven't seen in an upscale restaurant like that. We went to order the way they came. He didn't know what he wanted. He told him get out of there, go get the dollars. Guys wanted you know what I want right here? Nah, get out of here. I wanted that's hard for the streets. That's a win for us,

coming for the hood and that kind of environed. And he got right out of there, got the other guy you wanted, and there's nothing distract and see nothing else get I only know the places right well, I'm appreciating, like I only like if you're working with me, I'm gonna I'm gonna go to the same seven restaurants, whoever, absolutely whatever. You know, people told me you have a good watch, you have a good restaurant to go to. Always that you're the man when you walk through what's up?

What's up? Mr? You know what I mean? You won't to a restaurant and you the man. You're gonna close that deal because that girls is gonna be like, damn, how do the fund the janitor know him? Why the nigger cleaning the table? You don't know the big the guy at the front, you know the people that's on the side, and you say, what's up? It's up. Jeffrey, I's been doing doing like all right, jeff and Jeffrey, Jeffrey, the little homie. He didn't get a buzz boy, but

he's like he remember my daughter birth day? Cool, get a reservation anyway, God damn it. What should go to? Drinke Um slimmed up with that Martell bro like, I'm on the county keeping your check secured. Yeah, try to get you slipping. You ain't gonna You're a call your guy in the low right kiss. You're calling your guy nah lately, I mean only to kill you know it's a it's a They told me it's an upper to kill you drink. You don't speak z Episado A forty two.

It did some crazy to bang last night. Of course, dar leans to bank said something to Um anglish. He said buster buster was like he was, hang was out of it? If going to if I did too much? Was the person bagnaisted last? It like that in a minute, it was, you don't remember nothing. He said, least that's beautiful. That's a great night. My man, my man who told me the other day he woke up, He said, Yo, I ain't got I can't find my cash, I can't find my credit cards or my I d I said,

you had a hell of a night. One positive way you look at this thing. I said, that was a great night. Like sometimes I leave my credit cards home just to the just a I forgot. I'll leave home. But how good is that? Now? If you don't remember, how good is that? A great night? You forgot that? Great? Great guys, I can't remember great that. I can't remember where I had the piece the puzzle together. It took me a week to figure out what I did on one ding over. I do this once a month. It's

now drink chance. I got. I got this to a certain extent. This this is work almost like you know what I mean, Like it's almost I have an after party after drink chance, like ILL said, there, this is my this, this is my brief party. Like we'll sit here, we'll do and then I wind up primed by the way Miami is loose as hell right now, I would give me the run of everybody that wants. It was a full flax club last time, my dude, like I went. I was almost excited and embarrassed at the same time, like,

hey man, normally like that. No, I don't well, not during to the clock. I'll sleep. I'm old. I'm like, I'm I don't like. I don't like Mike time no more. Since the COVID I've been I'm in an early bird, dude. So this is my first time going out. Last night we went out. Uh, we went from Gabiani East to we went to Poppy Steak, who's also loose by the way here that they let us burn it down. God damn it. Have you're spoken to Poppy Steak. I felt

like a legend. Come Buster was dead. She like Mstead pick up to Mike the being there, I think that's what he called him. Uh, ray was there ray j running around. Uh. It was kind of like and I've seen food go. I didn't actually get a chance to save it. So then after that, I said, it's an after party, that's the Wait a minute, Wait a minute, I thought this was the after party. They said, no, this is the after party. We got an after after party.

I said, okay. I was figuring they're gonna serve advertisers as small and ship like. Yo, this was a little baby lift. Let's live like baby Lift. You listen, sloan, y'all out here loose and they had no purple rain. It was it was now and we need for real drinking swan words. It's fucking amazing, man. Well we need some more purple win because you know you can't get tag a bone no more y'all need to sweat up on tag a ball. You get it, you can get y'all get it because you know you don't. We don't

have to talking about getting it. Let's just get something else, all right. You want to Swiss to drink a lot of tying bone, t phone, We're gonna keep it. Let's waning. I ain't I told my marijuana first. It was like, Mama, wana, yea this drink because you want that bullshit pople but just ain't sweating the check with me. He just making checks. You got the chain, but I just kill me. Damn herb, motherfucker. Come on, you gotta take a shot. Kiss these nigs.

It's on nineteen shots. You're trigue. I don't never given the white grape, the white gray, not the It's very refreshing. And we got some carry on and we got a book. I think when the ball got me, your boss told me to try this, right, they already they already had. I'm gonna keep it. What are you gonna stick with that mess? Such addition, here y'all bump the kids. Cristy, let up in here, I say, your kid, I mean, I'm just trying to see you tread water beds up. No, no, listen,

I'm already. I'm already listen, and you drink sh tin of change. I don't want to say it keeps being sick. Yeah, thanks a little little thank you. Twin Big up a man car there. I ain't see where he went. Listen, guys, drink chance, don't have any water. That's there's no like API. Let me here. Um that's something I don't know that again, I don't know who that was neither. They said it was Mins and I forgot. You want to give it away? I don't think. I don't think it's right. I don't know.

I didn't. That's why I ain't drink it. Give it away. I'm not. I belay the body gonna drink. I want to give way. It's open, man. You want a thing, it's open. You make your judgment, though that might be voted. It's already or even watching might be to steal the kiss. Come on, you know I got my monther right for this great chance. Okay, I'm very folks. Come after that time to the kids. Man does him the ship? Lets

your favorite rapp Big Big, the biggest story man. He was in the in the studio and Big and give us the biggest story. You can't tell these I want to know. I don't want to say something I said already. I'm trying to give for my brother's I'm trying to come up with a nice unique that was never that Bad Boy and Biggie Ja Kiss. Come on, man, this is what made motherfucker's want the round. You know what I'm saying. Come on, man, I don't know. I mean for me. My old time favorite one is when we

first signed, we didn't really get to see Big that much. Like, yeah, he was on Bad Boy, but he was moving doing ship with total moving around. So we used to see him on occasions in the stool and he funk with his whole body and you consider them already definitely it was We used to write rhymes that we wanted before we knew him. We would right rhymes and say we're going these is for Big, like we want to Yeah. So you know, once we got on the same squad, it was all love. But like I said, even after

we signed, I was turning twenty one. I was having a birthday party uptown and it took me all my might to actually to come. He was like, we're here, where is it. I just tell CS I'm beat there. I'm like early young kids, like he just spent me on that record. You'll see. I mean I want to call it a dish. I would call it a challenge. It was like pronell and care. He was like, welcome

to the label. But he was just talking telling you y'all little niggas, better to come on your a game more because I ain't playing, and that it helped us on me. It was And then at that time we didn't really care. We was. We was head hunting ninjas, warrior lords. He didn't get a funk about nothing. We just wanted to wrap at any capacity with no name or none of that didn't matter. And we was just young, thirsty and wanted to be in the game. But hands down,

you say, always gonna say Biggie. But besides Biggie, who else nas old Stabs, damn Max Okay, nobody even know? Stop? Okay, sorry face, So like you big Daddy can't, Big Daddy can't Cougi Rap Rock Care, Curtis Blow, You're going bad boys an Rince market d Um. You know I'm a student of the game. I paid how I'm everybody, I'm I'm always for the artists I got. I was saying on my podcast talking about NBA players, I'm always gonna be for the players. I'm one of them type of dudes.

I don't care right or wrong. I'm with the players right or wrong. I'm with the artist and that's just what. That's just what type of time I'm on. That's quiet. Will you Nick would be good? The NIXT is doing good right now. I told you got him buying into a system and they playing. Get rid of the owner though, because that's how. I don't know how you get rid of the owner, how you get rid of the oldest. But this guy wouldn't Ball brought in Phil Jackson. He's

bringing the guys you want. Wants you for me from the outside watching Dolan. He brings in somebody with you don't gotta blame him, and then he goes sing rock music. Right if you're the owner the Knicks, right, you said I own the team, so the best gem I can bring game right now, it's Phil Jackson. That's true. You do your job. You're saying, I'm gonna bring in Phil Jackson. After that Phil Jackson job, he gets itself out of me. You don't gotta blame. He's probably he also kicked Spike

Lee out and I agree with all that. Now, I don't know, you gotta make the decision to tell them Spike Lee at these interests let go, don't let him in and even going there because secutively for thirty years, somebody had to make him Oh yeah, ain't no Spike. It wasn't just the person that mattered. That was a there's no way even the security that stops like, didn't know Spike, what like, come on, man, that's like if you live in New York City, if you alive, he knows.

We just at court side, Spike, Bro, Spike is the next What was the good? They wouldn't let me. It went through an entrance that wasn't They changed it because I don't know before before they just told them it was some kind of something that's going on because he had been going through that same entrance for years. They put out an app don't that he's never really said it. I don't agree with it. Crazy what they did the

whole plea it's crazy. Bro Big got into it with the security and yeah, yeah, yeah, fortune could we need to hold them out? I felt like should have left left. They had they ain't had the they did. I don't play like he never was. He was yelling at that doll and then said about him up yeah, because they're trying to grab him in. Okay, no man, I don't touch that. Man. No, you can't get me. Listen, bro Old gonna be smooth. You grabbed Old like all I'm

just grabbing them up. Na. It was so dope, and when they happened, that's when Q said, Oh, that don't happen at the Big Three, and then he became cool. Still, I watch your name the happo boss or bosses my ship. That's what I felt like that. I feel like that's still you know what I'm saying, like, oh my ship.

You know what I'm saying. You know. At the same time, you know I might not be in Spamious or whatever, you know, because you know whatever, because I ain't with the majors or whatever, but always in my own boss Cock cut in on that he Slim Thug is the only artist I haven't got mad At. I knew because I got mad Dad. He signed because I I knew what he was doing. So when he finally did that deal, I was tight, like he don't even need his motherfucker's

you know what I'm saying. But it was like a good man, Yeah, he don't need this shitty beld that's the room. What we thought. We thought it was rich, right, what it was. He was getting money and we was doing But at the end of the day, we was going in the same circle. It was Louisiana. He wasn't going up further the name. You know, we wanted to be stars at the age telling me I didn't get rich? Did you tell me how didn't getting mixed? Just going to Mount Vernon and sucking the brown ties. I ain't

never gonna go. I need to get out there more right. That's dope, ship man. But who led you for that? But it, uh, it showed It showed us our self value, you know what I'm saying. Earlier we was able to understand, you know, what we was work, you know, doing that like the way we was doing it, so we could say, hey, man, you know we ain't gonna sign for this, so sign for that because we already know already know what this what it is, you know. So that's what the underground

game gave us, you know, in Texas or whatever. So let's that's dope ship. I salute you'all. You played it both the NBA and overseas. What is the biggest difference, Like, did you feel like more of a start when he was overseas or I mean you already he was already built the brand when he went over, and it was

already brand built when I went over that. I mean, they already knew what it was when I went over the seas, um we thought you wasn't coming back, like start of mind one point, No, that's over there, like star burying you. I came back. Was he going to do that? Yeah, I mean in my mind, I was for sure coming back. I was for sure coming back. But I was there for a reason. I was there

to learn and also to play. Your feel me so so I took care of both aspects while I was there, and I wanted to continue that along until I got it all figured out and then I came back. So it took me four years to get it all like understood, and then I was able to come back. But the far as the game, the NBA is an all different levels,

the top league in the world. You feel saying you travel you know, privorate plane, you got like five star restaurants, five star hotels overseas, you're not traveling like commercial you're saying at three star hotels. You can still going to your top restaurants, but the travel wise it was different. You guys like gunning for you because they're like, come on,

you know. Yeah. So I went over there, like you know, I was already six time All Star, had like great success in the NBA, and these guys, a lot of the guys played one or two years in the NBA and they're making their name and their stars over seas. So they felt like I was coming over to like

somewhat take their shine. But I went with a humble of approach because I was only there to learn, right, But then I also played basketball, so it wasn't like I cared about much of my basketball, like I wanted to be the best for sure, Like I got m v P, won the champion, I won two championships, All Star, m VP, I did all these things there, but I was also I took a humble of approach to everything to there. Before it was like all right, sat one of the guys, you feel me, I could have won

over then Ego trip like this is mine. I own the team I did on the team. I was the owner of Jerusalem when the team he was to go for everybody that was the owner of the team and win the championship and All Star m VP. But how do you get the mind frame to go on that team? Well, but in might approach me about it. It's like, let listen, it's a team. If there's a team for sale, I want to get involved. You know, opportunities here, just let me know. So I got involved, and that's Jerusal and Jerusalem.

I'm like listening this this is a space where none of us is you still on the team to this day. Yeah, I'm like listen, and after the Americans that were brought at slaves are Israelites. So let me go here, now play the seed here, build this program here. So that way, now that we're returning back to our lands. So then now you know, I built that old little infrastructure. So it's a whole different level of like learning infiltrating and

also building in the space where we once were. And so how I went through that whole process of like we're back what I'm saying, and then a lot of planning that doesn't take it's going on there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, stay busy. Yeah, but there was a vibe, bro because it was for the people. Your feel me like, you go to go to the games and it's for the people.

So I'm like, listen, I'm going for sure to play in the Big Three because the ones that are there may not be able to afford the NBA ticket, you know, to go see NBA games, But they can go see their favorite players. You know, they can see me, they can see an Irish and they can see Dr J. They can see you know, these different players. Yeah, they won the baby. You will see baby Court mcgetty. You can see like Jamat O'Neill. You will see all these great players that you grew up why too. But she

wasn't able to afford the NBA ticket. But now you can go see them now, you know what I'm saying. And you see Joe Johnson, you see these guys who are still playing high level basketball and get good basketball. And I'm like, yeah, I'm for sure for the people that involved with the Big Three back him. I'm trying to rob. I ain't reading a coming. I wasn't reading I got all that I'm watching anything. When they come back and sold, I want these I don't want to

leave my body along. I need, I need, I need, I need a little nug off that though he listen, I ain't missed to leave. Let me get a little at least and the strin he over there trying rapper. This is a legendary right now, I don't and you know, you know, you know what's happening in Texas. This is crazy, like you know, definitely for us to have him, Yeah, come on, come on, many man, let me get one of I got something that saying, yeah, sir man, I want of you want to block yeah's blood? Still? Yeah,

you want you want to regular flowers? You wrote your backwood? Get that the wood the yeah, for sure woods, Mr Lincoln. That's that the wood. And do't make something happen you don't want I'm getting it in your hand and or you want to give in that. Don't get that bard all like you doing? Man like you shot get shot that shot the shot of we ship ship ship ship? Yeah, your own string or what's the you ain't ready? Yeah, you take it that because of the school. Oh you're

doing you No, I'm not, but I was. I was actually looking into it though, because for a lot of recovery. A lot of guys who played in the league, they deal with like the depression, what they did with, like you know, sorting some painful like playing all these years. And so for me, I was like I told my mom was like, Mama, listen, she's fifty five years old, said mine, the best thing for you right now, it's the light up of joint, life of joint. And then

life becomes much more clear. You're relying to chill, you watch your movie. All that depression or whatever you may have, it goes away. So like she's like, all right, I'll take your word for it. So she starts on the joint and she feels so much better. She's at ease, she has peace. Right, this might be expect tiding to get involved in, but you know, I'm saying, like it

is moms. Mom is just feeling good about everything. And so many pies, so many parties got locked up by sending cannabis, you know what I'm saying, Like, it's like now, it's like, how can you now, you know, kick us out of the industry that we particularly like built your feeling like we've always been able to, like a lot of the homies, life was always like pushing you know

what I'm saying weed in the days? Feel me so like, how could we're now not to be involved in this when it's like the new age of like you know what I'm saying, like stocks, it's on the stock market. Get here, like we gotta be involved. What was doing?

What I'm saying, monogram bro, Like it's imperative for us to be able to not be able to get involved in this because this is what we did, Like we got we got locked up for selling nickelbacks, dying backs, whatever, only because our people needed this because of what the lifestyle we never in was so like hard to live in. One time I got locked up for the police. I threw the blood away and never even found the blood.

They turned around see me smoking, like threw listen, I literally bust the little wall you this ship you know in New York And when the time the blood flew away, there's no way they could have found to live in the hood. They said, you smell like I said the only morning about smoking. But that's how bad the loss when you live in the hood, man, anything, you need the herbs to kind of calm things down for you for like you're not you're not too like overwhelmed by society.

You feel me so to sort of light up. It's like it takes me away from all the all the situation that's happening around us. So let's be clear. We're saying that Stack does smoke, that does burn it down. Well, I mean used to only when I had time before I start training, and here no doubt feel So when the season's over, I got to okay, I'll tell maybe what is it more? Because I'm good, I take three weeks off, okay, cool, my three weeks I smoke it sa a modern Regin with a moderate intake, okay, And

then when it's time to train, I'm back active. Why I got goals? All star. You want to be want to conversing situations. You don't want to be altered by alternative thoughts. You want to be focused. So I was like, you know, hey, I got my little I got my little moment. I got my moment two weeks, a moment of like living free, relaxed on the couch, whatever, and then I got my time where it's like back to work. I got play everything inside. And this is for all

three of y'all. What you think about Zion so far? Who Yeah, you think you're putting them decent numbers here? You're young heat next to the ball. No, no, I don't know to push the envelope look too far. I went to You know, when I think about what I think about Zion is he needs to develop like a more understandable game. Right now, he's very explosive and he gets to the basket and to use athleticism to get his points after a while five jumping that high and

that explosive, it's gonna put pressure in your joints. You know what I'm saying. You may, you may incur injuries. But if he's able to now for next the game, get a shot off, ways to score without being as explosive, and be able to be to be able to explode when the time is right. Right. That's why I like, like, what's she got? My penis? Devin Booker? Right, Devin Booker. Obviously the brought and these guys they figured out what

it's to be explosive. Every plays not explosive, but when they get the back door blob and you see him like wow, this guy's incredible, or get like an open lane he takes off? Whoa what do you see that? Wow? Did you see that move? You feel me? But other than that's and it kept coasting to my line and that they're playing the game when it's time to be like that guy and explode. Then they got that designers have yet to figure out, like when that spaces on speed,

he's playing speed. He said that the game comes to you exactly. But y'all know it's a rookie, like he's the second in the league. So he's like it takes it's right, So it takes two or three years for that to come. You feel me? So like y'all fans are just like power teams getting together, like when uh you know, uh they joined team, it was the super teams. Is yall one of the first kind of super team school If you ask me, Lebron, Phoenish Nash, this name

Joe Johnson, They're crazy. This ship was crazy. But it wasn't like yeah and may they didn't. It was I mean if with the media and all of the hype up, they had a real big three there at a quick and then't you know, as time passes in more marketing and more media they start focusing on But but I'm taking it from this era like win from Lebron because they felt like Lebron deliberately you know, gay winn and put his who he needed it, put his faculty together

to win the championship. And then since then, like now you got Brooklyn, you got you got three of them together, we got Heart and Read and I think, I think, stay, we're gonna go Yeah, yeah it so Look I mean, is you're a fan of that as a player, not as I know you behind them right now? I mean for sure, like as a player, I would have probably um all the pains, right you ain't know the superteam. You gotta face a super team. But I tried with the Knicks. I tried to I tried to build like

a superteam. Melow. Yeah, I want to brain mellow in. I want to brain CP three And it wasn't CP three. I want the brain Chris Tony Parker, and but it wasn't. Like because the super team has just been able to have like the top guys in that position. What would have happen if we would have got CP three you and Mellow Yeah, I mean for me, for me, I was going through a little bit of like a body breakdown. I played like I was I'm an air player, right, so when you're a player, you have more like and

being sixteen and athletic. In that space, there wasn't too many guys that were as spast and at you all and quick and explosive at that size. So therefore a lot of players were in that space are more prone to injury because you're like your our player and your your joints are taking on pounding. That's different from like the regular guy, right, So for me it was a little bit different. I was going through a little bit

of like a body shift for me. But for me, Melo was like top of the game, sixty two in the Garden lead leave score. It was like incredible to watch, and I'm sitting there watching them, like, man, I wish I can get out there and like you know what I'm saying and apply my dominance with you. So I was like, let me try to bring in CP or Tony Parker, somebody that can also be a part of the group. So like, it wasn't about like building like

a super team. There's more sub building players that are like great in the lane who can help control and bring the best out of all of us. Nowadays, it's different now it's like, you know, you got first. I started out with Boston with KG Ray and Paul Peers those guys, and then Lebron went to Miami with d Wade Chris Bosh. It was the first one. I felt like that was the frown. No, no, no, no, Boston wasn't Brown the bon No one looked at them. No no,

it's because the way that was around the way. It's not the press con you know press, but what the dout the press confance. It was looked like it was looked like, yo, you had to join somebody else to beat it. It was kind of was the first. Jordan. That's why I'm just trying to compare on the Brown the drawer, your team and everybody come to Cleveland and play with you what she tried that to Cleveland because he did that Kyrie of Clean Sure, but little guys

wasn't trying to little Cleveland. Like I don't want to go to Cleveland. Wire there's nothing to do there. It's like all snow, like, who want to go to Cleveland? You know what I'm saying. You would go to play for the Lebron, But it's like it's a better attraction to come to Miami. So let me ask you because you just said we just said you was thinking about like when the person is a star player, it's it's it's it's that person. Like you call a CP three,

the coaching calling the CP three. Yeah, but it's collusion. Also, So as a player, if CP three is on the team already, you can't call him and say, hey, come to him with the Knicks, even though I wanted to, but I can As a player, I can't care. I can't clude myself and I say, hey, CP listen, man, you know we got cap space, leave you know, l A Clippers and come to New York without being melow. I couldn't make that call. How does this call be me?

So the GM has to be the guy who's like figuring out which players are proper you know what I'm saying. For the team, I can't it can't be. It can't come from the players. We can't call them be like under the table, like hey, listen, come to us. Yeah you get fine for that. Somebody somebody's gonna say something like it gets out to the media, like a Mars calling CP under the table about coming to New York and what you're saying that like, oh man, you got it.

There paid six and it's then the third like, hey, you know what I'm saying, Players go visit players go visit these other teams, and like and did you have lunch with them? That's all the back They're gonna be thought, Like if if Lebron comes to Brooklyn right now and he has lunch with you, they're gonna be thinking that he's going, he's going in. You know what I'm saying. Facts.

I think the move is though, but the boss move is when arts collaborate with players in the agency space and you build the agency based upon the guy who's respected within the league who now is an agent. You bring going their favorite artists or artists that they represent, they respect on as management management within the agency, and

then now you're gonna sign Anthony Davis. She's going to sign You're going, yeah, you're gonna sign these guys, and you bring the Mornings agency and then now you're able to now tap into that world. I mean the first guy that did it was master Pe Rickie Williams, all pro running back, one of the all time great running backs are Springing morn Pete Love, Wicky Willis Love piece music, whatever, is in the sports face sports and athletics core side. Bro.

What I'm saying, like, all athletes love their favorite artists. H you know what I'm saying, Their favorite artists love their athletes like it's it's it's two. We decided to tap into that space and take out the middleman and being able to build that type of infrastructure, it's a whole different type of game. Now everyone can eat on the side of sports because that's that's like an open lane for like for everyone. You feel me, it's open lane.

Brouse and Freeman is the same thing I did about Bocas. Hope is a mastermind. Bro. He got hunter percent that he did the right thing. Very strategic, very smart, intelligent, smart, respect holes so much because he's a businessman. You know what I'm saying. He's a business guy focusing on the business aspects. He's locked in on what it takes. And he's also a classic guy. He's not what he does.

It's very it's not ranchet. It's a very it's a very strategic, organized infrastructure that's respected by entrepreneurs, billionaires, guys who's there for you to Stanford, Guys who went to Ivley School that respected because it's so organized and structured to where they now can relate to that. That's what I'm saying. That's that started to me, Goldbro, That's that's the idea. Man. You think you're gonna open the sports agency. I mean, I don't know. I'm just right now just learning.

It's the song so much space, man, Yeah, that's crazy, that's crazy. That was the alley. So is there anybody who um that that you you you looked up Tom Thug and you got to meet him. It was disappointed, disappointed. I don't know't know about who I can say I'm disappointed about it, but I would say somebody who I looked up to that I met that I was happy I met was pemp C who embraced me. He held embraced me like and that was somebody you wanted to

embrace you. You know what I'm saying that Listen to you, g K. He made me damn they want to be a rapper, so you know, uh, he would calm me and have like our long conversation with me. Bro. So it's like that ship was like I was Biggie, you know what I'm saying. I was jay Z you know. So it was amazing that you know, have I would have my experience with him and then I gotta even on him, clips on him just showing me Hella loved

so you know, it's like crazy man. You know when they when I really did confirmed and there was snow and in Texas, that's the first person I thought of because I remember he said we were the South South, we get more fuckers, a lot of I don't know why that conversation just popped in my head, l A. He was right, like you know what I'm saying. That was like almost a lost dimsy seems like we're different, We're on a different time. I was like, damn when I thought it, like, I thought of PMC man, that

was my that was my homie. Let me just say something, give you a good memory of PMC. A type of person who was I had artists that they didn't know who they were, uh, Muslini and Maze and Muslinia Maze even though they wasn't on the level of a ut K. They wanted to do a record with you K so if we hit but we hit pimp and said, yo, how much you guys want? And they told us what we wanted and we brought them to the studio. You got him in the studio and but and uh and

uh a pimp gave us back to check. It's like we just wanted to see if he was gonna do it. Pimph. That's no. They gave us back to check, all right, but you know, naturally we gave it back and said, no, I think it the state money. I didn't wanted to see he was gonna pay that. Yeah, and when we did, when when we did, because they you know, it was the relationship for me. It was for me, the favors for me. But you know I knew they didn't. No

one knew who moves amazed was at the time. So um, but you know we calculated that he said, no, man, this is we all window for this, you know what? And uh, that just let you know the character um pimp was I speak to at one point I speak to that was the most parts I speak to a hip hop. I just called him and like like that was my dude, Like you know what conversations real man? Yeah, yeah, everybody with that dude was was was ill. So when where was you at when you found out that PC

he passed away? Oh? Man, I was in the city and Houston. You know when I heard the word, you know, but ship. He was in l A when it happened. They say, you know, like it was crazy man. You know. He would always hit me up though, just randomly and just talk to me for like a whole fucking hour and just tell me all kind of classic fucking story bro. So like you know, you grow up and listening to motherfucking and then you don't know how they're gonna he in jail though, he was in the jail, so he

came home and that's when I first met him. So it was like and it was since then he with Hella embraced me, like, show hella love to me, Like you know what I'm saying, Ship, you can't pay for a co signs. You know what I'm saying, like because he ain't funk with everybody, so you know, uh, he showed me too much love. It was fantay three pounds, bro, Was that the reason you stopped? I gotta have a little pressure. I take a pill still to this motherfucking day.

So that's why I stopped. And like I run three miles, No, you're running, motherfucker. I run three miles every day for that ship. You know what I'm saying, It just work out, you know, to maintain that ship. Bro health is well for Palmy for life. Yeah, that's why I did that. I just placed alright because for those who don't know, like it's there. It's not to advocate this, but this is there a way to do leave without the solda, without the soda, because it was real, it was no

the solda is the worst. Don't know, sugar water. It was drank. The drink was the problem. But the thing is the original drink that we originally you know, used to step on this. It's exact. It's over. They think it's because I've been stopped a long time ago, you know, But I don't know what they're sipping on now. But the only time I think, I don't know what's going on the cool. It's a lot of everything going on

on the cool. But like I said, I don't know what thing Johnson doing now, but that ship being over, you know, but it never was good and always was big. You know, a lot of niggs was sucked up off of it, man, and it was just like drinking. You know, you were sipping and you ain't had no you know, you wasn't doing no working out, you wouldn't eating good, you know. So a lot of mother fucker's was sucked up out of it, you know, a long time ago.

So to see motherfucker's now fucked up off of it is like, damn, we've been seen that, we've been over that we've been saying, and it's not using doping a good way. It's actually a heroin. It's basically some of these young brothers when I see them, like I don't know how to read job to them and just you know, give him a talk because you know who's the listening to me. I gotta drink in my hand what I'm saying, like so like you know what I mean, Like it's to be hard for me to try to give them

any type of thing. But you know, but nobody's calling heroin too. That's the thing. Nobody's saying that's heroin because it's not called heroin heroin. It's just a four month had herod and Jason it's heroin, but it's I'll give you win and I'll give you lean. I'm injected. Heroin is a different thing if you sniff it injected. Anything he's leaning heroin. He got something the same ship, but it's the same. I bet you rather did some lean didn't the shock and dope you're gonna be It's like

smoking And I said I didn't. I didn't like have my whole copy. You didn't. He But in Texas one time, one of the different shows, little niggah. It's crazy that because this time what it was like, you know, we first came through still Tiffer. It was so little niggas a lot of niggas don't know that. I ain't know what it was my mom and you go. You imagine going to New York niggas like so you sipping cops served nigga, Like what the is around you? Like, niggas

is looking at you crazy. So then you see little Wayne come through with this cup and now everybody got take fucking cups. Bro was looking at him like we country and goofy and ship. But now you got your cup. You know what I'm saying. It was so crazy though, Texas because it was like I believe in America. It was Texas and Philly was the worst places ever and Memphis two yeah, yeah, yeah, I ain't gonna lie. That was the first people I ever I told you I went on all or a ball and we couldn't find

no weed and they didn't they did not care. They're just like, hey man, we got that drunk. And I was like, I don't know what they did even talk about. And then like I told us to tell the story all the time and were flying back from Japan. This is Japan, uh, And the lady comes to me and she says, the guy never moved one time, the old Japan.

So she comes to me, she diging his me that she thinking out because you know, they must have told her, like ye know, this is two groups on the component ORIEGA and eight Ball m j G. So the lady must have story. It was me that was like eight ball or whatever. So it's just like guy never moved lapping hours, I'm digging ship. I'm like, what guy, Please don't say this. Big guys, big guy, he might be gone. And then he like slightly woke up and I was like, oh ship, and I was it like that's that's the

first time I heard of Lean and this ship. You know what I'm saying. It wasn't Lean. It was calling scissor I I want to serve at the time and something like that, and that's the crazy ship. Like, but that ship that was an ill pandemic right now, Yeah, that was a pandemic too. That was a pandemic. Bro, Still still drinking it. I'm just still sipping the still ain't gonna lie to you. This is like the junkie generation. It was like at least like we lived. We looked

up these things, us smoking, taking bills. They they sniffing bills. They drinking, drunk, they drinking, they person down ears. This is crazy. That's why. That's why they killed each other though. This is the crazy ship right as you think because they drunk up? What are you? What do you think? Like? This is term time, bro, right now? The Internet is probably the worst thing everfore young man sixteen years old, they wanted to be a rapper. He's on their showing

his guns. Do you see these dudes? Sometimes you look at young Twitter crazy. You look at young look at young you know you were on the O G Instagram. You don't even know it. It's a young version of this ship. These things. Yea. They shooting each other up so crazy right now. They have so many disc records against each other. Yo. Yeah anybody yo? So wild West on Instagram on Instagram. You know they all go to

jailevantly everybody that's the fact uniform into none of that Instagram. Listen, I grew up in a different era, different that on that on the extra, this was it wasn't even a part of the game. They're doing police work. At the end of it. They're doing is making it easy. It's self snitching cops to just go grabby. Hell yeah, that's crazy cop. Don't even gotta do no investigation. Yeah, smoking nigger and then talk about it on Instagram. That's crazy,

too crazy and then jail looking dumb. How about someone you don't take West he's doing good. Yeah, Actually I've seen they said, hey, um on Cuban gave him a job, They put him in rehab, then gave him a job at the rehab, I mean, and he got him on the word gig working. Yeah, you ever told you see something like that? I'm playing and man, how many times we see rappers that rappers is normal. It's normal to see rappers like that to take the truth. But I'm sorry,

I'm got getting fun. He don't just fun, not me and the athletes. He ain't the funk up. Its Brandy has an issue. He has it. Yeah, so he needed he needed professional help, you know what I mean? It had nothing that that's probably his ship is an old different scenario. Shout out to Mark Cuba for looking for him to is one of the illest Cuban. It's ill shut. It was not Cuban. But you're not calling him a Cuban. I'll take you. That's saying no, but he's Mark. No,

he's not cut all, but I'll take the Cuban. Cuban first Cubans in Wyoming's what's the best coach you ever played for? Coach? I played for him? Yeah, Tony, Yeah, the best coach I played for? Yeah, it was probably Mike D'Antoni. Only because only because it's so nois for me, only because only because he let you be the player that you are. You don't picture hold you. You know what I'm saying. If you're a power for he allows you to be like the best version of yourself within

that space. M take full advantage of your opportunity. Right, So for me, I was I was a power forward and put me a center for like four years in Phoenix. I hated it. I got to I know, ship, go ahead, but don't kiss you right, because I hate it. I used to look at you and say, yeah, he hated ye actually grew up a small forward. But then I played powerful because my hype when I got to the NBA. So then therefore with the Antoni, I went to center.

And at first I'm like, wait, what You're gonna guard Shack guard Dave Robinson, these kinds they got to guard you two they got one day. I see the go ahead, but for no, not to cut them off, but ref that ref he blocked your championship. You know that he blocked the ship. He actually he got them rejected and they lost the ship. But he was on the road to win the chip that Yeah, he was. I seen

him chilled Tim Duncan, I couldn't it was. It was amazing because he he was just faster, so he just he was saying as then Tony put him at the five when he was used to playing the four. Eventually he seemed them. He reaped the benefits because they couldn't move it fastest. M he was killing and I fucking ref man the refa by the way, right ship. He was eating that coming out coming out, he was gambling, Yeah, he was. He was sucking the game. Up getting Red

on the side. He actually he actually jerked my name from his chip. He was winning a chip that year on my FA chip. They couldn't they couldn't do nothing, nobody. That's crazy. That's real talk. And injected out of that game. And that was definitely what they try off that. I thought he was killing ship, that he was rushing its crazy. Remember Steve Nash in the back of the bus was reading the book. He was like super mad, red like

like furiating, fear like like just upset. I can't believe this because we had a chance when the championship and this referree Tim Dunna. He was actually like curbing the games for us, and he mentioned inside the book that was curbing the games against Sonsburg game the game finish it. But that was like the game like that game was that game fucked up the chip for Phoenix. That is

that particular game. That was the game that that that screwed up them getting that chip there, that's what's all Nori, real talking, that's real talk, straight up. I was watching. I watched though I seen the game Ship hurt. My heart was crazy. This is real ship, right game? Mom? Yeah, open a little bottom man is mother as well. What it's called open coach because come on, sounds cavine ariel, because it is black actimate. It's legendary right now. This is leg See why I gotta get my drink Champ

Sports drink Chance Sports. No ship that rappers don't know about this, he said, I don't know. I know the ref's name. I never know a referee name my life. I've never reached the book to to to to playing my games. I ain't never remember their names. Weeks ago man too. Who's that another good friend of mine? Yeah, you're a referee, asked nigger. I don't know that. I ain't don't connected. It's connected normal what his name finished out with to say, no more your ball. You gotta

look at him on on on. They got clips on YouTube when he was because he don't refer them more. He just teach them. He goes around the world. Who he does this ship though, hold Off ain't gonna get it where he got. He's being up sucking you see how crazy that easy that he could pull that whole fucking the topic of the yeah, but ahead saying then it goes around the world like the Africa, and that he teaches referees how to be ref now. But if

you look on YouTube, he got clips. He told a I one time in the game, Hey, I, you're letting the crop Alan, You're letting the crowd down. I got fucking foul. He didn't even acknowledge a I could play, and they said you're landing. These people can't see. He was one of the allage rests. I watched him Joey clothing all right, Why I know Joey, because you know what I'm saying that the race with Barley fellas any fucking techum ten Duncan from the bench one time for

laughing for the race. His alleged it's the fun up man straight to sleep after. In fact too, once I get to the crib, he just wants some were good. It's gonna stand by stand. Hey man, look you give something. You're drinking right now? Who say, man, go get yourself something very well. You know you want to shine. I passed me to call out as the car won't be looped like he was last night. Let's go see Floyd. You went to his other party. I gotta go see

yeah me about something. And I went the other day that Yeah, I stopped I started to go out. That should have went. I forget because I went, and when I realized everything was free, I said, I like this tape of party, said, I forgot everything. It's free. Yeah, everything was free. It's fantastic. Yeah it was cool. I liked it. I ain't have no upscale of type. I was gonna ask you to get me. I was gonna tell you I was gonna save you be could have loaned me a suit. I gotta I gotta shave myself.

I just went. Just got a shoe shopping. There's no reason. And you know I'm on, let's go shoe shopping. Yeah, I've never pictured me. J it's mine, it's mine. That's something shopping you. Yeah, I've seeing you. You know I like. I like song. You ain't a song, remember, No, I'm not. Remember I've some re membership. Don't let me kiss you gotta stop being from Yak at some time, at some point at someone, you gotta grow out. I gotta stop where I was born now. But you know you gotta

show me, show me. I'll get you know. So it's like make some noise of men, get some truck. You gotta get some trouble pizza and you're like, man, what I'm saying fire pizzas fire fire sound good? Right now? Man, what a point We've been talking about food this old time like this. That's a great thing. I'm still good off whatever that got me going there. You take the way is day only the remembered me. You definitely tell I'm gonna back. Like usually people leave the tip on

the car, but you was hitting niggas with cash. No, I went and paint the bill with the card. Then I tipped everybody with the cash. That's the way to do. I've seen a special with Niked put a hundred dollars and everything dousing. He the hundred. He put more zeros in the common and got ten th nigga's cars. I've seen a specially watched the yallars y'alls the cash because I've seen I watched the I special. He's you gotta

put the string, but you gotta put the strike. That goes back to what I say, I only go to the old certain rest. They're gonna get a yall y'all in hand with situation gave them and they and we ain't gonna have none of that nothing. The apple your phone. So then when you know, like whenever you charge something right notifications the ship Apple Apple car because the notification on there Apple car is kind of hard. So you

know what's up. You just gotta know what's up. A Max is one of the most kids ship, right, they call you fabbything I ain't allowed by. It just wasn't backwards that you and Louis saw God. Yeah, yeah, that's the cards. Yeah, you jet helped me down one day. One day my car got charged twice in the same public and then two different publics at the same time. It just hit me. There's like, it's no way you

could do you could be at both of these small fuckers. Yeah, and they shut my ship down to me, you want you want that security? Right, Holy moly guacamoly man. So what's next for slim dog Man? I'm gonna keep doing slim thug It's DearS vibes. I'm sugging at the slim ain't slim sig You just can't say that, break that down? What does that mean for it? Now? You know what, I've been saving my money. I ain't never had to do no spending. I'm sugging that he slim. I'd rather

spend my money and get what I want. But you know what I'm saying, Yeah, man, but I'm still just you know, rapping, you know, put projects out, doing vibes, you know, just you know, connecting with my people. It's good. It's paying the bills and God bless you your city, everybody out there. Man, man, we're gonna be I've never been a million years would think that, uh ah, Texas will be hit with a pandemic and it's got something

to do with cold weather. I've always identified Texas with the same way I identify Miami, like you know, a hot climate, you know a place, so you know. So it's crazy that that that that you guys are being here with that, so God bless everyone. That a conspiracy theorist with that. It's something up with that. But what yeh, Texas getting storm just snow and all that. I mean, yeah, I don't know, but I don't think it's I don't think it's just an active nature. I think something kind

of ship you never you never heard of? Heart, yeah, heart. It seems like tying to black supposedly a weapon, supposedly I wanted to be surprised. Man. You'll think about when when the when, the when the When the Spaniards came to America, they gave the native smallpox everything so that so they had blankets that gave to them, like, hey, warm yourself up on the blanks with smallpox, but gave it him. Hey get yourself a nice cozy night with these blankets. But the natives wrap up and then in

the morning they're dying of like a disease. So I wouldn't be surprised you had a guy walk to Baston who was like a master wicked scientists who made himself black to be in to infortrate communities, like to try to take them down, you know what I'm saying. So I wouldn't be surprised on like what can happen in today's time, because history showed us that there's happened came from them passing on one. Nowadays, man, everything was a conspiracy. Later on we find out not it's not so much

of a conspiracy. It's right, Yeah, that's how I too. Were we think outside of the norm, but really we're like overthinking it. But then there's areas where we're like not thinking it's much about it, and then there's something else going on, like what do you find that balancing, like what's really happening. That's the difficult one. That's very difficult. So what's next for you? What's next for me? In Yeah, net's winning the championship. I gotta bring it, gotta bring

it ship to New York sooner or later. Yeah, listen, bro, Boston, don't standing change? Uh you must then look at the roster. You must don't have WiFi and man, well, well I know you've got money. So all betsies, what's up with that coup? Though? Annoyed? Just it's some crazy ship comes you. Yeah, if thing a bops itself every now and so, it's period, it's bleeding, it'sleaning, it's on this period. I see something little periods in there. You got little worms in it,

you know, you know tequila with the worm. He g me one of those cups. I'll give you a whole box of him for really, That's what I mean. I don't know, think them crazy, I don't know. You don't know what's next for you? Come on, it's next, man, there's so much, there's so much lost. This company. Make it like one. We're gonna make it like the New Camus. We're gonna have this this these bottles be motherfucking three

thousand and Carbone, that's what's next. I mean, I mean he told him with the accent, was next, and he told him come. But yeah, I mean, listen, bro, The objective and man is to be to like give the next generation that type of that type of idea on what they can accomplish, you feel me, like to get them to understand like there's a lot more they can accomplish if they sharpen up feeling like you know what I'm saying, like, that's that's that's the idea. I mean

for me personally, I just rolled with the flow. I wrote, whatever happens, whatever comes my way, and you feeling I take advantage of the opportunity. But yeah, but but but for the next generation, if they watched the ogs before them and learn from us and take what we're saying on on on dream Champs and b to now apply to themselves, and now they can kill themselves up to what we are, and then then now they can set legacies for their children. Then their children then follow their

footsteps and then change your community by doing that. Then you know, twenty years from now, thirty years from now, it's a whole different paradigm shift that we didn't that we probably didn't see the effects we made by sacrificing on our and to affect them to help them get to the level that what they need to get to. You feel me. So I can't even say, like, what's

my next step. My job is to the team to push the envelope forward, change the game, and in portrate opportunities that we were never really involved in that area. You know what I'm saying. I'll say I give it by two kids from that last year. I'm going to Ford Mayweather party. That's the next to me. I raise my family, make sure my kids are straight. I got four more to put through college. You know, got graduated. You got a degree in psychology. Um, my daughter is

about to go to coll the next year. And then I got the twins and my little Quater. I just wanted to, you know, make sure the kids just straight, stay healthy, keep putting on music because it's my passion. Um, get my drink, champ sports, let's go your pot do it. Um. There was a lot of things with you, Bro, I just wanna you know, I'm just happy to be and

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