Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio and his Drink Chats motherfucking podcast. He's a legendary queen's rapper, He'sagre. It's your boy here, no R. He's a Miami hip hop lioneer. Is d J e f N. Together they drink it up with some of the biggest players in the most professional, unprofessional podcast. And yet number one source for Drunk Driver is New year Z. That's it's time for Drink Champs. Trick up, motherfuck?
Would it could be hoping he would? It should be. This is your boy? Oh what Up? Is d J e f N. And this is Melitatemate Crazy Wall podcast. Even though it's not. It's dream Champs. Happy all. I like saying, Milt be crazy. I'm taking it back. You're taking taking it back to Leo g wherever you at, man pick you up. But in case you don't know right now, with me and my partner d J Finn started this, you know platform, this podcast that turned into
a TV show. We wanted to salute our legends. We wanted to say that people that's been in this game ten years or more are still worth it. They are still legends and they and they're becoming even more legends because our our genre of music, that's the only people that have a word called washed stuff. They don't have a word called wash up and rock and roll they
don't have that. No other genre of music. It's just us, and we wanted to honor our legends to people who've been here just as long as us been here before us. And when I think about this group right here that's standing roun up us, this is not only South forty, this is hip hop hop globally. Warrior Ty. These guys have been this monkey foot in the game, kicking you in your neck since ve been I heard they fling
the group in the nineties. But FIST first album, right, So, but these guys I listened to I'm on my way listening to the playlist, and it's like the album came out now talking about you know, people are gonna have secure Curtfuels and this new world older and it's like, what the fun did y'all know that this ship is gonna happen now? Like in Casey, I don't know who the funk I'm talking about. I'm told my mother legendary, the motherfucking impactable, motherfucking bout so a little bit the place.
But this is the first question I've said this to my my I have to ask this the first question the Social Awards has happened. We don't understand the discrepancies of why Andre's attitude was. Like all we understood as fans was just seeing the reaction him just sitting up and saying the South got some say he was so passionate about that. I knew he wasn't lying right, But I wanna know where was you guys that we was here, not only at what was your guy's state of mind was?
Because was that something that y'all felt like needed to be said? Well, um, I started, and then with my brother they can definitely chime in. Man, we was there, right, That's what we was there on the stage because y'all gonna, like, I mean, come away in New York. Were someone boys from Atlanta, Georgia. Man outcames our little brothers accepting the award. They get up, they hear booze. I didn't know that. Boy. See, let me just tell you something a lot of people
don't know, Like we tell you the truth. At first, it seemed like Andre was the aggressive it seemed like he wasn't like because we didn't. We don't know that this stuff. So so you're saying, as they had Downstair Award, our cats is walking up and there in their hair boo. Now I'm talking about when they accepted instead of walking once they said that the Outcast one award, people immediately started boring. So I can feel, my little bro like
they've been through a lot. Man, just to represent for Atlanta. You come all the way from Atlanta to where we were in New York and put in the hard ass work that they did and come up on stage and you get boomed. I mean, we was ready to fight. We would have fought everybody that we were, you know what I'm saying. But we know it was tough lord from New York, you know what I'm saying, because we had to come back to New York and we came back and we took here a business and it wasn't
no boot when we came back after good all. You feel what I'm saying. So Little Brun said the South got something to say. We was coming right behind that. So I don't know if he was saying that we was the one that had something to say. But eventually it turned out that year the south Well said will because like again, and I am. And let me just let me also tell you I'm in jail at that time, so I'm I'm not. I don't know nothing industry, so
I'm just like blowing away. I'm thinking, like like I said, at first, when we're watching this ship from jail, we're thinking that Andre And was like like yoh man, you know, like like like we but we so. And it's crazy because when I kept home, a lot of people don't hear that that side of a lot of people don't hear like you know, even with the Q tip Tupac thing, a lot of people don't understand that that was a
misunderstand it was. It was I want to I want to salute Busy, you know, um that salute Dave Maze because they had the foresight and at the time New York was the most popular music so for him to pick Outcast that was even a risk in itself because a lot of people, like a lot of people Outcast was throwning at the time, like you know, don't I'm trying to say so that it was new it was everybody gotta shot, got a shot because you know this is don't work. We take a shot for you. Get
is all. Motherfuck's show was about saluting all legends and this is what's gonna do. How mad at y'all? Y'all? I see that when he left the Google got Hollywood or y'all, I went really bad at him. It was actually the record label first for me, the record label first, because I felt like the record label broke up something because we was it was our third record. Now that we had to do was put out one more face. Yeah, this is um anyway. But like I said, you know
what I'm saying, hindsight, you know what I'm saying. Because we was young, bro, we was liking me late twenties, you know what I'm saying. So with me, I was just like damn, I wanted to do another record, but I still had to respect what was going on with Little Bro because a little Bro had a different talent that just couldn't be contained. Like that, you feel like
solo after that that or not. It was a fourth situation before it was like it was like l a game clo and gave myself a deal and and once he did that, once I went to New York and I sat down with Later to kind of like figure out how it was gonna put out the next album or put out this solo album. I kind of felt like if I put this album out here, it will never be another good mood. So I told Later let me go, and I went back. I went back home,
you know what I mean. So for me, I just felt like it was right for the situation because of the reasons why he was doing it at that time. You know, it was about hitting New York. You know, at first it had feel a little it was way weird,
because you know, to be that's what you like. Our conversations went like when we sat down, I remember l A saying, you know, Gift, I know, I know what you're doing, goody mother, but you know, won't you do some records like Ludicrous and lud And I was kind of like, yeah, but now I'm built a certain way, so it wasn't a differ space the Ludicrous or dispace the l A. I just knew that what I represented that I don't do that. So that's why I said let me go. I came back home. We created, we
created ads, that's what we did. No drop tips first album. I'm sitting in the house and seeing him all day in Chapine. It's like this nigga bust this ship. Wild feel I'm saying, because of course I first ard y'all to where you took it with Jadas Balkley and everything. I could have never thought of that, like you were really you went to art class, you just get like like like the show for showing that's real, that's what
I want to look at it. No, definitely, but I had always felt like I was representing the best intrance of the lodge of collective and everybody would ultimately get their opportunity to show how we you know what I mean, break down and disassemble what I mean, like like right and feature all of the working parts and I mean like you know, um all in its own natural and
organic timing. You you know what I mean. But even after the third album, um, this baby got no. But I definitely thought we had we had earned the right to advance forward from that point, you know what I'm saying. And I wish you know what I mean, like that that gift would have really um and he had he
had for all of the right reasons. He didn't do it, as he just explained you know what I'm saying that, you know, but I would have loved for us to all showcasing to me like our individual accounts, like you like, exactly reduce your album together, strategize. We didn't. It all happened like really all of a sudden, you know, I think the mean totally all of a sudden, because we dropped that a third album, we dropped get risk of this. We sold eight hundred thousand records, you know what I mean.
We sold eight hundred thousand records, our biggest record, and then we got that call in the middle of the record. Hey man, the Face closing down. Just sold the label for a hundred and forty five million. So you gotta look at what they did to because it was like everything and every way we had learned how to build and connect with our audience. It was totally raced in just a phone call, just a deal. So what are you saying that? A lot of it was circumstantial, you
know what I'm saying, It was some champagna ahead. I'm sorry, no, no, no, And then um, you know, I just felt like we was and when you did just solo, did you do that with The Face two or who was that. We don't it wasn't I do it independents to before? Right, Well,
what happened was I did the UM. I did the first album with the Face and then when when um when l a when you put a little cup from some champaign and the cup of champagne for one ye, yeah, you gotta see the stake we got you, brother, We're good,
You're good. I'm sorry you don't know what's cool. But but but when the Face folded, then La took the position at ASTI record from replacing Clad Davis, and he took he took some of the some of the UM the artists with him, because you're talking prior to Nall's Barton, right, So he was only there for a short stay two So I did a second album then with him, and then when Ara staffolded, then I would independent And then that's when Nall Sparkly and some of the other things
started to happen, like you know, we we spoke about it last time. But that's when um, you know, the Pussycat dolls and don't shut and all that kind of stuff, all those opportunities starting to kind of come about, you know what I mean. So never Hollywood nor never hot never look at by this. So I'm like the well, let me just say something. Let just please hold your thought. Okay, well let me just say something. Everyone in the music
business has a little jim of hotywood. You know, I know what point Like, you know, I'm definitely I'm definitely making for your brothers to check you, like like when I would check a pole. Like there was a time we could. Poe came on from jail. He everything he wore was f like, like like you gotta shop, like everything is fair, like you gotta shop bro like, and I had to had to like when it came from my brotherly love. That's what I said. That's the reason
why I'm on flame, yea brother. Yeah absolutely, Now even I will you know, embrace or whatever whatever our critique was of each other at that time, it's all I love, you know what I mean. And I hate that any of it ever was misconstrued. Man to spell out the street taking the running with it like it was negative. It was really because my brother wasn't its own on site. But you feel what I'm saying that it wasn't never like that because we grew up together. I mean, Cee
lo Timo. They staid on the same street. You know what I'm saying. We was in the same goddamn mom wrap circle, man when we first met each other. Like as an outside of looking in yea remind me of real family, Like you know what I'm saying. Like when I see y'all four together, like it's it's like a certain It's like when I eat my grandmother's poor like I just feel quite home when I eat her parts. It's just like, you know, it's like, all right, cool,
my grandfather's a porter. We could want on the black one and it just feels right right. And when I see y'all four together, it feels like even a new album survival pack. When I love I think it's aid, organized noise and goody Records. So this is that's basically y'all fully independent. We did this with organized noise, you know what I mean. Like we just felt like at this point, man, we can't have no balls, you know
what I mean. And then at the end of the day, like what we can bring to the table is being free agents. It sets us up to be again independent, but we're our own bosses. We're not under a label, and to be for real with you, Like, we were working on the Goodie Move album a little bit before, and let me tell you what happen. We started to
go back in and do a good Emove album. We we're in the studio, Low like, let's not just good mave al move Low, gott a call and dance Mouse Thanks saying I'm sitting low over some beach me and Low sitting there George till we're home lowing in that Herdan Beach logana and the recorded crazy and straight Down. He sent Yeah, while he was bringing on the need to get started, and he started working on the good Amp album way earlier before y'all learned another Goodye moth
round and we're sitting in the studio. It's all of those Goodie records that that ended up being on the NTL sound so crazy, craz crazy crazy. Yeah, this is what happened. We were working on the new Hoody mo. Bro Daju sends him a beat. Pat he he just beat. He walks in the studio, he does crazy straight down. He sends it back. He wakes up in the morning, he said, give it. I say what he said, Man, I got to go to London. I think what's wrong, he said, man, danjer Man went to the radio player.
They got damn song that's a year wrapper overnight boom. I ain't see Lordan for five years. The read why was I said that? But the reason why I said it went Hoeywood. It was because really what he's described and like it was so fucking organic and unintentional over them sling like I didn't have no, I had no idea this ship with work, what kind of drugs he was on you with that? That wasn't just weak, No, we were, we were just we were just drinking that
night because it was on your mind. But look, look kind of true. True, But but what I think, well, that's what's dupe about all of us though, man, Like you know, like, because you know, if you're want the factor, that the tool, then you gotta mention the likes of a big kif or the likes of an undred three thousand, and I mean like and all of the many many wonderfully bizarre but unique and awesome. Man, you know what
I mean? You feel me ineffective and and and wild and successful ship that we was able to accomplish, saying you feel me like it's not it's not only being able to fathom some ship. It's about being able to articulate it. You know what I'm saying implicated and shooting. I'm saying you feel me like and stand up on it, you know man. So that's that's that's the work we've been about. Like that, I really wanted to showcase arranged like in me like and I just think it's really, um,
it's amazing. Man. That's so many unique you know but kindre experience all came together under the banner of Dungeon family. Get him to like hold up in a fucking crass space in the basement of a fucking home man like in a weeko way. Bless his hard man. That futures our family, you know what I mean. But like I could tell us, but now for it's a lot of love, a lot of love. Man, y'all realize what goodly move
really means to the industry. Like when y'all had that high hatus, what y'all wasn't around for each other, like I would witness fans be bad y'all like like seriously, like yes, like I wasn't we had Twitter like that wells all because I was. I would like just here like because y'all didn't so much, you know what I'm saying, And then when y'all did, said Grea, it was just
like y'all feeling at that time, absolutely I did. I was with I did because I was with Nelli, And even though I was with Nelli, it was still people like, hey, folks something. So with the mom I feel I know, I know you did you know I want you? With the mob Kim, so it was like I got it, Like even having to hit regular grills and coming back to Atlanta, it was kind of like I felt like people were like this. It was like the success because
it wasn't home grown. But at the same time, for me as an artist, that was what really put me back in the room with Bro. Like at the five his record went went platinum. I record went platinum. And then we met each other in New York at the b m I Awards, now the first time we've seen each other, and he was like, yo, mony were gonna do another and we knew it. He walked up to me and fixed my time, man, just like he had walked the two fifth thing. Get that rightly, like, damn man,
where you're being and we felt it. I know, I definitely felt it initially, but like a lot of it was out of sight and out of mind because like what he just said, Man, I had just went out them into the world man and just got fixed sedge and on it just supplying this large demand, you know what I mean, Like and she was just I know, I know because I had or even kind or even kind of though it was a Spanish record, had it
had that type of success. Yeah, A lot of people don't know if that ship is like the next day like it's it's just like like remember or Kindo came out one day, it was a hundred spins like three days later. Spence like, so I'm like, holy shaid that, Like how did you do? How did you even like balance that? Because you're coming from the hip hop but you this record broke you too, broke straight crossover like
Grin Stefani and ship like that type of ship. Well, I actually thought the the context of the project, I had always felt like anything I was gonna do what was gonna be you know, anti establishment. So it wasn't the one even about fitting in up doing nothing that was for automatic or radio ready or nothing like that. I mean, like, uh even helped popularized like that. Yeah,
something that's different going a crossing. Absolutely absolutely, so like you know, um so my balance was never I mean was because my attent was just never really to get lost in the translation. Yeah, I'll go on the fucking adventure with this ship. And I'm saying, you feel me, But it's just it's always about coming home. I knew I wasn't going to where to stay. You know what I'm saying, going to go see I'm saying, like planet
flag and come on back home. I mean so, I mean I never had no no ill intent, you know, man, you feel me, just it was just chasing them and it affected the South. I feel like when when they weren't working together, like yeah, like you know, you know, like we said, hip hop I come. But for everybody in the South, you guys are like such a fountain. Yes, So to not have y'all be cohesive like this matches all of us. I'll tell you. When I said versus,
I said, good at market versus. They put y'all against outcasts. That says by that it's really nobody that can really go against using versus. Shut this up. I can take Andre three thousand, right, I can take the second hit, half of Love below. I can take this man two albums of nalls bark that's one side of the Dutcheon. Okay, then you're talking about spinners. He wanted the best, he got rhyme of the Month, first Outcares record. Okay, now
le let's go musically. He's producing records and Part Records three thousand. They produced Dardard Records since the second Outcast records. So when you talk when you when you talk about and then when you talk about big Rule and you're not even talking because you're talking about the dictionary. So when you when when you're looking and then you take it and then take that away. It ain't no crew to get on the stage without cats and good him
all ain't got a chance. And hell because once the song bird start, you're done, you know what I mean. So so that's why I say anyone when they talk about versus like you're the only person and the only crew. Did you you had to put us against ourselfs because when I look at everybody out there, nobody stretched it as far as we did. During the times everybody was on hip hop ship and hip hop ship on it. Dungeon family was all the way across the board during
them to we were doing rock songs. We were doing everything that hip hop artists couldn't do because they were safe inside of their little box. Yeah, man like, look you know what I mean. So when you look at stuff like that, I'd be like, bro, you really can't put up against nobody because no crew has done what he's done three thousand. Okay, they think something the genre of music someone in another genre. That's why I was chipping. I don't really feel like nothing that was doing was
nona stretch. That's what we do. Know what I'm saying, we did just like seeing you do it before. That's the bag. They's just like saying some niggers from that how many songs? I mean, I'm saying how many? How many records you got a little bit. I don't care. I don't cash. First five Seas records went. They are the only group that sold more records every time. We was all but let him every album, every album Good
Mother's had a lot of ship. Okay, but when it when it, when it stopped though, we were still going okay, Okay. See see when a lot of people say great, great, great, they damn that they're great. Stopped with two albums. Oh my god, my god, look at the dunge your family cattle on. It's nothing that can touch us. And it's just fat. It's just fat. And I said out loud, because challenge us smoking dung fat. Get that even when good yemm break it down. Once they start singing, you're done.
You're done as a hip hop, as a HI unless you got unless The only group you could put against us is the food Jie. They got the girl, they got the girl, they got a song bird. But outside of that went when that but if you think about how talented they was after that first album and then then White first album, she came her ship. It was like it was like damn, I mean us going to Martinique and we got off getting on the elevator and they was playing why Clear the whole album the whole
time in the elevators. They were like, damn yeah, Elevat, That's what I'm like, everybody want to get the South? Let me ask Let me ask you something the South, Like what would would take the forefront, Like how it is like ye'all really if y'all want it, and this is the this is it's a little bit like if y'all wanted, y'all could just promote to just the South. Like y'all actually, if you really really wanted to, you
never have to go to the East coast. You never have to go to the West coast, because that's how big the South fixed. Like I just learned that Bortomore is technically the South. I just learned that the other day. I still kind of I still kind of like scute it, but they got our rude. So if do you ever think the South is gonna rise this big like how it is right now? Ship Chip speak on the mom Yeah, man, so much growth, Man, we're to stay boom in the
A right now. Definitely. I mean to look at at Nanta today and compare to the ninety five, it's like another city, right well, I mean it's more comparable now to New York or or one of them up north cities. It's a major city. It's a major city. I remember when we used to do promo, Atlanta wouldn't even be on the say, and then we're from not even on it to top five. Like now, if you drop an album, you look at the person's promo, you have to go there. Yeah,
let's take a shot. Let's do that contemn the good man got doorry about it. Here's plenty of it. So I know, I go back to that Andre statement because some words on the social wars. I go back to that statement because of his conviction in his eyes and me ladder later on in like knowing who Andre is, knowing that that moment might have been out of his character, but he was defending it so much. So was at that time did y'all think that the South wasn't being respected?
I go through this and we've been talking, we've been talking. It was. It was really in that time about the East Coast and West Coast thing. And that's kind of when the be jumped off, because that's you got caught in that wet in the middle that. I mean, that was a big, big, big year for the West Coast and the year of death. Row said tupockets free, two pockets big with the big jail, saying that the jail set up on that man. It was so huge. I mean,
they ain't the biggest show. And then they out boom and that's why Sheard came out there. It was like you know, saying, look if you eat tied and you know you regging labor with zeggative dancing and ship in your video. Come on, yes you so that? Yeah? Yeah, they got like it was it was, Yeah, it was that. Maybe that's why you're not understanding the debate. You know what. I felt like I was getting posed it. But that people gotta realize that really, that SOCE award is the
first source of award that we really all first. That was the first time we all see each other in the flesh rappers all rappers, and that ship was bubbling on the with you got woul tin back here a hundred d. They looking like respecting that either, Like you gotta understood. After that night we walked outside and set on the street and kicked it with meth and methold up. They didn't. They felt the same way at that time. They felt like New York did not respect because that's crazy.
We took a picture. It's on the internet, that picture out there talking about Wow. Like the night we did Outcast, we performed in New York, Outcast first album. They was around the corner performing in the club, performing protecting Nick the first time in New York. So you gotta understand it. Once we came together, they felt the same way at that time. That's why Dirty ran up on that stage and did that at the Gram is because them as a crew, they felt like New York was not working
with them. So so that's why we always felt like the routine Good Marvin, our crew were the we're the same because at that time people was like, nah, we're working with this and it wasn't that. But now people can go back and look at this situation. Then you know why Dirty went up there and did there because them inside of their house was like wow, bro, like people ain't respecting the rest of though we like we here pup, you know what I mean? How to get
along with each other? So let im wrong And you know what it was at that time, And I say this all the time. I said to you all the time. The people that were hating on the South, when people that didn't understand the South, with people that didn't go to the South, you can't understand something that you ain't never been a part of. You understand. I'm saying like, when like I went, I used to be like yo, people that go the strip pubs can boss that's what host of things. I went to Atlanta, I went to
what was that? What the German's Club. Oh it was the mother fucking mind right, It's likely you're like I didn't. But at the time New York we looked at people who went to the strip club as tricks. We didn't look at it like you would be a boss and throw money and not give a funk about it. Atlanta told us that, But had you never gone to Atlanta, there's no way you didn't do that. Miami told me that as well. I don't one of the different levels.
But had I never come to Miami. So a lot of people who was, hey, you know the South, or was was speaking down on the South or whatever that was because they didn't have cousins in South Carolina. They didn't have cousins in Georgia, they didn't have cousins. I did you understand saying I had cousins from New Orleans? I got all down from Spanish and Black so me honest to the South from for the beginning, like yeah,
but I told you. The other part of it, too, was the way that the industry like alienated everybody else that wasn't from day They didn't give opportunities to everybody outside of New York City because the industry was there. On top of that, the executives are there, the media is there, so everything they promote everything, they signed, the DJs, the top DJs on the radio. There, everything is centric. And that's what happened as a backlash, and I respect that,
but don't blame the people. I'm just but it is what the people because every time we did a show in New York, it was I always up in New York, one top big boy hippie and and he was in New York and I was talking to Big Boy and he was liked, we got the tunnel to like, I'm not sure if I'm gonna go, And I said, if you don't know how us New York love you like I never like he was ten million at the time.
I'm like, Nigga, you don't understand. You don't think the three of them ten millions us, but you know, the tunnel was just known and it was just known for being I'm sure. I'm sure. One time I were a big Boy and I went like, as like his New York I was, I won't to say New York musle, but like as soon as he used hitting the stage, he looked at me like, I don't even need you that. I was like you because because the thing is, the thing is, YO get somebody like who's just in New
York or whatever. And at the time we didn't have the game, so there was one couple of few apples who can't judge everyone, You know what I'm saying. Yeah, but we never did Princes. I'm gonna say to everybody that's coming south there because I want to get this foom like I want to personally get this fom for that New York. I know New York got love for the South New y Mother's man Man. We used to love going up in New York. Man. We hit the Lancier street Man for the first time, bro st Man
first time about first and all little ship Man. So I can understand that because chech Gang. Like say, if somebody was performing in Atlanta and you got all Atlanta acts and you got two New York acts up there, you already know what's gonna happen, right, you feel what I'm saying. So it's probably the same thing Like that was like like you just made some ship know that I didn't even think about. You said the Woutangs from Statndy,
But this is you were in New York. So they only respect like Brooklyn that type of queens right at that time, at the time, it's not that me being from New York. I need let me say that at the time, nothing came out of stat now not a damn thing. But the same member Jersey went through the same thing too, But Jersey still goes through the same thing. They really went out and Island was just known for
like bad police and you know what I'm saying. So we didn't even know there was projects, Like I didn't know it was projects and starting to risk. Hired me to do a wood taking install and I went, I was in black people. I thought on the black niggers because we all it's true. So I didn't get said it it's true. So we members telling you that's true. He's he's being one that man. That's a great comparison
because I would have never thought about that. Sometimes about the wout ain't saying they're not showing loved us either, and that's that's that's big bro. And you know what it was. It was as was the younger show. I forgot what the faw you know, for years I didn't know, but I was winding on South Beat. I found that out two days ago. Throws like the Gas give you South Beast and all the free stuthing on mixtape I
put on. I had no idea, So the South kind of looked that different because I have records with juven Now I have records with David Bader. You know what I'm saying, Like, I was always messing with the South, So I guess I was like one of the New York were the first ones ahead of your time, and
that South pick me up in the South. But I want to get back to this right because in the beginning when I googled you guys, right, I think they said that the first I'm came out of ninety five, but they said you fling the group in ninety one? Is that true? Yes? And my Loma Jack Potting team more deferul chime man with But now I want Team over the time because I love it what he is, plain that nothing more. Gad my whole boy who got this a t R logo? Big Leo came up with
it in the hood, you know what I'm saying. In the trap so the real trap music? Right? Um, you said, you know what, but it's not on the not that disrespect because He kind of coined it because that's what he called his music. We didn't call our music that. It was just yeah, we was in the trap. He came up with it caused the p phone good him all, Me and Coojoe were trying to be rapping. We were working on He was asked that he was the first one inspired me to want to rap. To be honest
with who's on the first person? Brought me a rape that he did himself in the head of that was on a beat that was never heard before. So I said, damn, you know that it's hot. Man. It got me insighted. So I went in recording my thing. You know what I'm saying, and I said, you know what, me and him want to do something together. So we got together. We were called our first record and Ghetto Records on Walker Street and Nona Georgia. It was called Worse than
the second Verse. We called ourselves a good mall at that particular time. You know what you're saying. Just me and cool Joe. We did my thirteen songs under that name. You know, we had a good mall thing. You wouldn't understand. It's a good mob thing, you know what I mean? We didn't. I mean, this is but this is the beginning and then the way we asked it forth to fast forward ahead and I give you every little detail
on it. Um Ian Burke after we record recorded on Calling Director No, he's actually like the guy who put our cast together till c together, escape together, top Dog in the latter man like a real close friend of Organized North. Put them together, literally put them together, literally did it. Was pots already but they was pot but bringing the big yes and man did it. So when we recorded Calling a While, our cast first album See Lo Saining Hood, me and Coojoe, Rat did get I'm
gonna get up, get out, get something, you go. The face wanted to sign us. He wanted low, they wanted me and coo Joe, and they wanted guilt at the same time. He didn't know where to start. So Ian Berke's idea was like, you know what what you're saying separately? They wanted to sign your separated Yeah, he just wanted to get bring us in. He wanted to sign because the album went platinum, So he was like, damn, you
know doing it, y'all casts album. So we didn't. We didn't have a good mall deal at the time, we weren't even officially the good. We were not officiing Good. If you listen back to the lyrics, you will hear him call out see low big guilt good at mall. Yes, so you can actually hear right now on Southern Playlist and can't let music and Ian Burke took us straight
at all to l a read. He was like, you know what, in order to go ahead and facilitate this deal right now so we can move forward and then they could break off to their own semparate instities later, they just go ahead and signed them all under the name good elw that way we can move forward. Little did we know? Little didn't we know the energy was gonna be here this long and and this strong right now now now, Puff directed that first outcast video. Yes,
what did y'all think of want to set that? I don't much about Puff, but I read the other source magazine we all were around that time, and I just remember seeing the car can not add you know, I mean, like you know, he was like it just says Sean Puffy calms um a and r uptown Records to me on the like a white fucking carking that outfit with no shirt on. Hes okay, yeah, you know or whatever. Tell me, like I picked up a vibe on But then I recognized him, not just you know, connect the
dots when I saw him there. Then I saw him a person doing the video. I said, okay, he's just he's somebody I knew I was right about it. Didn't say you feel me or whatever little vibe I got off of. And that's what it was. I mean, I remember when he pulled up. We was outside, didn't have a white you don't white. Him and l A Read pulled up in the land row and they jumped out and he walked up to Read and he said, I told me this. So from there it was like it
was amazing because Red and Puff energy was such the same. Yeah, it was. It was almost like reading meeting your twin you from the north from here. So it was like watching them get together and put that video together that they I didn't know that Puff would turn out to be who he is at that time, we didn't know. Doing a lot of sting that land like promoting parties and stuff were always you know what I mean. But see at that time, man, we didn't messed with downtown.
That was him in Dallas. If it was anything, it was him in Dallas or your main you know what I mean. At that time, we didn't even food downtown. We were still on so straight and we had the dungeon, you know what I mean. So to to get back to what you said, like just to meet Puff at that that time, like we knew he was gonna be somebody. But he was dope though, because I remember him getting out and walking over. I mean we were sitting I was sitting out there on that call that he walked down.
He walked, he walked, he looked at giving. You were like, he's gonna be a star. I don't even know you for but but like it was, he walked around, he did that. He did that, he walked. He knew Dre was gonna be a star. He really he had that. I like we didn't. We didn't understand. I can tell you at that time, I didn't understand the executive type ship that he may have understood. Reek probably had that kind of education, you know what I mean, But he
he knew load. Like you gotta understand that at that time, Lower the only rapper d rhyme of the month in the sore on his first rap, which was huge at that time, the first rappie ever, Lady man Man. So he was looking for him off top like never have got it, I'm a live want to drink you tap. We got goody Babby to tell you that everything everything do it now, um celo. You know what it is, the whole cheam um numb but love with respect. I was just calling Noy and I needed to ask him something.
But I gotta talk to you because in one we gotta splad more love, you know what I'm saying, and support each other on another level. So I want to say I love y'all. Thank you. What y'all toll on all your classic music, it's you. You're one of the groups for sure that inspired me to do what I'm doing today. And that brother Joe Crape said, it's love
cu lovely. What's that song you had kicked out where he goes ask you to win that lot of oh you're talking about, that's that's l A l A. That's l A l A because I'm choo lyrics and when you get a lyrics, okay, that's l A l A. All right, right. You said, first of all, thank you all for being on the Fatherhoods podcast. Yeah, and give
you mentioned something. I believe it was your Fatherhoods about signing to the Face and it being like the type of label it was kind of helped like you guys took something from that or it helped shape something y'all was like the Sexy Death row. I just want I just wanted to just make sure we gave you context. Man Puff had to become when he became. At that point, Big Biggie opened up for us for their first shows in Atlanta. So I just want to just continue and
captain o g Okay, okay, got that. I like to that flaws Biggie opened up for you like that. I'm a cra man. Wow, that's beloved though. That ain't that? Ain't no just span y'all part of the Golden Yeah bro? So yeah, what was that you said something about the type of label it was. It was an army label for the reason that it was. You feel like when you walked into Face Sexy Death, some people who just
handed you flowers like they were scared of us. They were scared, they were scared of the then they really deal with us like we I could tell you a dude named Billy Woodrooff and Shine Too Dogs. They really fought for the mom like but like the whole thing, like it was different because that's what I was trying
trying to kind of explain. And the interview was that we couldn't make records like how everybody else made records, you know, like how Death Row was doing their thing and and going and saying the things they were saying at that time. We couldn't make records like that because we took our music to l a read and baby Face, did you want to make music like you can't just see that? Somebody asked us, y'all, don't get your dicks up. We're gonna let's go. We're going just like like you said.
It's a lot of thing that we could have said, but we just didn't. So it was like with damn, like like, how y'all don't seriouspos he serious? All you're saying the label that we got hold, we got a whole photoshoots that went missing and we're missing. Yeah, they said, oh, y'all didn't do that. What y'all want to do again? This is not after me you, this is this is my second album. Because we got a Hold, we had a whole bracket, a long broke gool type of batty
that was your own. Yeah, that rocol type of Bartes. Yeah. But for us we came back with label didn't change other no, labor didn't change that. The label still wanted They wanted us to see if we could go on. They always wanted bigger records. But it's like you gotta understand, we understood hip hop. You have to make your base. You have to. You have to serve your audience before you serve them. Doing those times you were not friends with the label. The labels your enemy. You are here
to do your job, not be friends. Now when you now people friends with the labels, they understand the game. Think about so much, so much information you can getting there that you couldn't get them. So many people was playing with a hand that you get that have so so many people had advantages that you did not know about. They can stop rigors and they can make rigors. You don't know that until you can get that far back in the room. When you're just an artist, you just
you just believe. But sometimes some people with let's tell it, might have more business. They wreckers might go further. You might have a lot of talent, but you got no business. But understand this. We understood after leaving New York day. Man. See, we're the first line of defense when it comes to this hip hop from the South. See that's why to me, I look at it like this. We look at it different. We look at it. We came out in the nineties.
But you gotta look at us like end up. Yeah, you gotta look at us like cane now because of course where we're from. Every style that comes after the Dungeon family, that comes from the Dungeon family, we're real cold. I never have nothing to say, but I have to understand me. You kill that, that's all. That's that's all. That's why we don't take nothing that's disrespect. I'm just
saying like, we don't never take nothing to disrespect. We just say, hey, man, check the number, check the numb The first tour, we was out there with the foods and roofs. We was out there with their happened. That was the first TV. Do you know what it is? He said, y'all was on to over shots, shot even rugget. He was on that. Yeah. But see, we don't have work, we had time. It was it was your cash Money player. He told me that this morning. Boy do that still too? Boy? Yeah? Yeah.
They some games and where he spools some type ship like jopping out the side heard. I always remember man was he was a fire cracker even then, even then he was just five cracker. I just didn't know why I was didn't like he like and then char was real quiet. Then on the first Get All Word Cup, we all stand in hotel with the dogs outside, so you know serious. Oh yeah, trapped the drapea exactly. But now, like um, I think it was just different for us
to make records like we really winning that. So the few foods in the rooms. That was the first live band too, all hip hop live band to that, right, that was the first hip hop all live bands. Yes, but the read and that's the reason why we really went back into that studio like we always gotta do something even bigger than what we're seeing what we saw hip hop doing. So that's why a lot of people at that time was looking at us like we're on stage.
We got cosmic slot. We we were into Mingland. Uh rock and roll low is putting seventies and see the music and involving it in on top of our originals. So it was like we was really just trying to break all the all the rules, break the ceiling. Even then that's that artist say you're talking about, you know, so when you when you look at that, and we didn't we couldn't do what everybody did, you know what I mean? Like and we really had we we really wanted to take our music back home to our parents
and be like, look, yo, look what we did. Didn't take it like like because it meant it meant some for us to represent where we were from this this out over here baby didn't put it. I mean, I mean, go back to that record. We had guests who on that first album. Guess who what we're talking about our mothers.
So when you think about the actual subjects that we went in, you know, we had the serenity prey on our first album because every most of the time in the South, when you walked into singing and where no difference. That's just coach that the footprints you know I'm talking about,
Uh I saw it was true foot prints. Yeah, I mean actually, question, so what was the process of securing the Andre three thousand verse for the most guys just wait, wait, well, actually patient understanding, and I'm just about to say, man, that ship is fucking love because that brother a did ship like that for a minute. But then he see his big brother say hey, little bro, we need you, man, we need you. She can't be complete without you, and the game needs you and bro in the game needs
you to check it out. Man, it was the last one I'm talking. This ship was about sold up. The albums damned done. You know what I'm saying. He had an old none of this showing that Surboka oh everything got there and reading right their own spot from goddamn like three four months when the pandemic hit. We were doing it all the way down the line from March on too. When that ship dropped on the third team November. You feel what happened. So let's break out the problem.
Your album fully independent. You asked the big homes, but the big homies crazy because he didn't. You were hitting flutes and after them by herself. He's a different type of But you gotta look at this. I mean, this is question I'm asking because I know I hadn't done it before. Have you sold ten million records? Okay, I haven't needed So that's gonna bring a different type of ship to you. You're feeling, whether it's money or whether
it's something else. He just seems like you don't give a funk about nothing, just like my little boy, you don't really give a funk about, but he give a funk about a little bit of stuff. Now, I give a funk about man. Just to be able to just to be able to to get back in that way with big boy Andre. That showed them, That showed the whole world that they love us. Man. Did Drake send your the verse or he came and did it? Man? The funny thing, we got a Dudgeon family chat message.
Lane Wallace is on right about nine, okay, right, I don't know what time it was, but it goddamn text came through. They had three thousand verse and then we had some type of caption on to something, some type of caption like three of three thou some type of he seemed to be selling sex. So I was like, oh, let me hear this, motherfucker now, I mean mc gift said it's all right. So so so we got them niggas in the headlocks. We got the goddamn faster. Yeah,
he needed them a little bro. Yeah, they look brother, I mean they about three four years younger than us. Yeah, I remember, I remember seeing both Big and Train the same manage Big only glau the fact that I came out after them. We always looked at y'all like y'allas over. Yeah, we didn't know y'all was the big one. Then. I would remember when Dre and Big came into the dungeon, they had overalls on and I think they had blood. I think they had blood hair low cut. Ye see
that both the big boy dude. Yeah, the big boy ain't been going crazy like creat Big Boy stayed in his leg, big crazy big great new I'm just I'm just trying to tell you. Playing the flute is exercising your lawng So it's not really nothing fucking crazy to do that you feel, yeah, yeah, when you're playing the flutis I played the flute before, and motherfucker told me, exercises your laans so you can breathe a reason why. Yeah, So it's a reason why they and you can hear
yourself playing. So I mean that's just that's is cool therapeutic. So as far as but I've never playing the flu yeah cool. I never knew that. I didn't just make this ship look cool. Play the flu Yeah, I mean that's one. That's one that's one of the best coming out of Atlanta, Georgia, one of the best. Did you see ts podcast where he was talking to Young I did at Young Tub said he does not know can as far as don't know, I think that's a lie. You can't tell me you don't know. You can't say
you hit and listen to them. You can't tell you. But then you gotta jacket on and I ain't. I ain't dishing in my ain't trip. But I'm just being real on social media scene showing me and you, I've seen you with a jacket on the head. Y'all see that too, right, alright, what he was at. But he had a jacket on the head. So you can't tell
me that you never heard of him. But if you could tell me, if you if you say, I don't listen to him, now I can probably I can probably go with y'all, man, because it's something because I don't listen to do you think like sometimes? Right? The young generation, right, like if we want to give them respect, just give them some course, But I want to be real about it. The young generation will go out there, Bob, Michael Jordan's right right, a man, they never saw a play again,
there's no way to tell me. You see, Michael Jordan played a game, and if you did, it's record. So you can do your history on Jordan's I'm the speak either. But you can't do the history on the music that's paying your fucking mortgage. You can't do the history. I mean, and I'm not I'm not conditional coming at end generation
of course, any young generation. But think about it, is if I played football, When you play football, at the end of the game, whether you win lose, a drawer, this taste that you watch for you to be better. Of course, of course you don't think it should be hip hop tapes like you shouldn't even know that would be like you know what I don't say, like like to kick this job. Have to do some type of study in order for you to know that if it weren't a goodie mare, you might not even be in trap.
You understand what I'm saying, Like I would ate four or four man, I forget what's supposed to the new group. They comparing the outcast right now game Earth again. I love you know and is a lot of them, don't you know what I'm saying to you. You check him out. So but the thing about it is the youth got to be there, we we you got to be there, and the elders got to be there too, so they can pass down that ship to you because I mean, yeah, you get you getting a million billion streams and you're
getting bread. You know how you feel like you know how to do it. You don't need to listen to the O G. But later on down the line, you still got to learn how to be legendary because you can't pay for the experience, of course, not the experiences that we went through the half court, Like, I don't get why don't you can serve somebody's purpose to disconnect the youth from the g I mean it feels like
the record, the record. I believe the record, I believe because that's why they're gonna They're gonna overpay the youngs. They overpaying them because they have created this new system called its streaming and with all this stuff, and they know what it hasn't the loads. But I want to I want to understand what you're saying. You're saying, they oh pay the younces purposely so they wouldn't tell to us for devices don't need that's coming. If I got money,
why should I listen? I listen to you. If I got more money and you you watched it, I listen to I don't care about your knowledge. I got the money. But what they don't understand is, son, if you don't learn how to make quality of music, you won't last because with this new streaming service, it's me it's just like the Crrect game. It's gonna spit you in. You're gonna put you at the top, and it's gonna spit you around. Now would they be playing any of your
records ten years from there? I don't know. I don't know. And the money ain't gonna last because it costs too much money to look like ship. You'll think that the trajectory of the South of it like hip hop speaking just on hip hop, every changed and the ship you know way like for exactly an example, like here in Miami, we had an artist in the early nineties called Mother Superior, one of the first hip hop artists out of Miami
at that era to get signed to a major. They used to call her the female Nas and I imagine what's her name, mother Superior? She would she was a beacon of Miami hip hop about that, and she literally she was important to us. But she spoke to everything Miami librical and everything that was going on at that time. But it was all Miami, and she got shot by
the label, just like Bahammad Deal. And I always feel that had she come out, the trajectory and the sound of Miami hip hop at least would have been different. They didn't want that. They then that we're oh, let's
be real, man, let's be real. These folks won't this business to stay young so they can continue to rape it right, because they don't want any of these artists to let if they already know that they're not gonna last two or three years paying five or six million, they'll be broken three they think about it the pandemic and hit those that was leaving on that show money. Then spit the big check money. So let's let's think.
Let's be real, let's be grown up. Okay, even if you got a check for six to me this pandemic and take you out because you were you were you were thinking you were about to get that one fifty show money with these big festivals. The game is set up for you to sell more because they're controlling the festival. During that time they did. Everybody was because they destroyed loop Ai because he wouldn't sign it talk about it. But then they brought somebody else and gave it and
turned them into a LOOPEI. They can always do that because they got the money. And as long as they can walk you in that back room and say we're talking to you, man, they always win because everybody gonna sell something for some money. But it's about what you hear. Folk understand. The one to understood understood the game ship.
They ain't got no wars. They ain't gave MASTERP. They ain't look at Master Paster P had four hundred four hundred men or whatever, and Puffidy, we're looking around like, damn, where do you come from? How do you get all that money? And got gold and they got that. He understood something different. He understood the master game that will unders shoot understood the master Ga Puff didn't. They had the money they had. You think they never got no
ward because the industry didn't control it. It'd be real when they man when they ain't cut in, don't got no war. When they ain't cut in. You don't get no ward, and it's cool. That's why at this point in my life, I don't even care about the war because the war don't mean nothing in the pandemic. Dude, what a grammar gonna do for? Okay, then I understood that far. I came in the game because I saw mel a more story. So you gotta understand what you're
doing for some artists morning. Some artists don't care about it. But look at George Clinton. Do you think he cared about it or he was here for what? He was here for the phone? He's still Joey Clinton, with it or without it. So the true thing is, are you gonna stay around? Stay around long enough to show the industry you deserve it? Because most of them got both because the ones that was probably big enough, bigger than good in them all during them time they're being gone.
So who the truth? Who the truth isn't it's Twinny Twinny, And we just dropped an alim on year. Being in the game and we wrote that ship with the same people that we did our first round with showed me somebody who did it? Who we are? We're the only crew that everybody's still aligned. And that's because the music we made. And is this the Empire or no, it's just straight one rpm. But this is like this is this is like straight up Orlando shout out mighty all.
Y'all did this all on your own and organizing noise and him if five fans and would never do it again. We did it right, goddamn expense. That les so one of my favorite joints that people don't dask some ball. Wow, well made y'all come over with that one. I gotta tell you, bro, man, we go a wade in the Dutch. I'm looking at that the TV. I've seen Puffy and Mace on TV that they were doing that. Yeah, I don't know. We just gonna go there, but I'm sorry since let's go, let's go, I'm not that. I said,
man read niggas don't dance no more? Bro, I said, how they do? Was this like what we're doing whether we dis in you or this is what we're doing. So we went straight into this to y'all recorded to hook man, that's how you got. Niggas don't dance no more? They do like inforration. Thank you mate for the inforration. Not No, that's but I understand this, Spek. It's all about coloration. It's all about competition calls. I mean Ship,
that's where we were sitting on the TV. I mean I remember standing right there like, damn, well, I can't wait we got them do that. They're thinking in my head, can't wait do we get there? I'm like with Ship, you know what, nigga don't dance no more. All they do this. This is what we're doing. We in the dungeon right now, grinding hardest. We motherfucker came, so we're finna go ahead and put this hook down right here.
We're mad, he said. We were mad, did man? We did the other night on and bad boy man Pump showed over the whole NBA team, Man like, hey, basketball gonna play basketball? Man? Man. We were out this old man. Man. We were like, what the fun trade of that day? You know, we had a real party, we were. But
we had a good time though that weekend. That weekend with the weekend, and we really understood that the South in New York and that and that and that synergy because like Puff was in the Atlanta line, Riek was in New Yorker line and That's when that's when the Atlanta and New York connection really started. When organized Norse and and bad Boy did that extra party, That's when Alex ant seen the New York. Hey, man, Alex can't
go to Alex. That's what created Alex ag like like, after them parties, man, he became the ship what the what's the name of the club? The I'm paying that he had? After the club, he was just the man of the clubs. After those parties, he went on tour with Outcast. You realized that Atlanta is the closest thing to a condo that we really have to Wakonda, Like you you get pulled open Atlanta, it's gonna be a black cock. Yeah, you get a ticket, it might be a black cop. You can go to court. It might
be a black judge. You might have a black lawyer. The d a might also be black. In Atlanta. That's the closest thing into a condo that we actually is really like really have. So you're talking about what you're saying, Wakonda,
we ain't talking about black Panta. What we're talking about. Yeah, I'm talking fiction on movie, but I'm saying black and Yeah, the closest thing in America that we if we were to pick any state, if any black person wasn't pick any state and say, what's the closest thing if we think to a condo said I'm me the first to see a just say I likes YEA realized that probably heard the punch. Pebody feel the same way I feel.
I mean, uh, it's a lot of it's a lot of white people that too, that understand what's going on, you know what I mean. I mean number were It just depends on where you go. So I stayed thirty minutes SOT walking a lot. Okay, it's a different scene, but but it's what we're coming out there, you know what I'm saying. So it's like I said that Trump sports, well I think that I don't know, I might be out there too. What I'm saying is it's black people
out that and white people out there also. But I'm saying to think about when you say Atlanta, it's still on by who was on about at the end of the day, But it's still Confederate. It's still on by who was on by. But we we still can come down there and have a good time and chill out. And you know what, I'm saying, and buy property and put restaurants up and everything. So it's it's it's it's still good if you say, there's nothing wrong with it, but it's a it's not all. Ain't a whole black
like that. It's it's a mixture of everything. Now, it just depends on where you go. If you go to Southwest Line, you go to Food and County of Northwest Amount, you might see a lot of black people there, but white people are coming into they're they're they're living a monster too at the end of the day, you know what I'm saying, Because they're listening to our music too. And I'm coming to the infer city right now. Oh yeah, and drove yes, sir, Yes sir. On censor role ten
years ago, there wouldn't be no white person period. On sense role ten years ago now down yes, cycling, yes, said black, just like if you want to say it. They're not being disrespecful, but we should call it something else. A long time of focus, you're what I'm saying. So, but since we are, we're a little bit older now, you know what I'm saying, we're a little bit of educating huns and now we're can not taking it just a little best to be the black of cities. It is,
it is, it's the most, it's the most the city. Yeah, when you're talking about y'all oders might be more, No, because Atlanta got t take work. You're talking about black excellence here, Yeah, advancement, you see me. Equality, And you still gotta remember who's buttering the bread? Who's buttering the bread? Okay, Well, we're thankful for the opportunity that we got in the city of that loud. You know what I mean, if your business is right, you'll be able to get a
business in that I mean. But it is what it is, you know what I'm saying. Music does tryan saying the Giner lines all the time. But like I said, though, you still got to remember who butters the bread. You still got to go to somebody else to get that bread. You think I love it before? What did it mean? I thought that was dope? I thought that it was First of all, I thought that it was so real, you know what I mean, Like, you know, us coming from Atlanta and knowing they are the history. It seemed
like everybody you know it history. Yeah, you know what I mean, like you know, um, I thought that it was really mature and respectful and honorable. It was one moment though, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean the effort, you know, I mean, like you know, like you you that was to be expected for you know. I'm just saying one of them is getting I know what I'm talking about. I just thought that it was real. I think what I thought it was what happened. I
they say he spoke on it. Whatever you talking about, Gucci? What do you do with the verses? Having a true version? Come on? Come on, you know what I'm Come on, man, come on, now you're doing We're doing the verses. We're doing the verses. I'm listening to you. Should I come out here with my pretty music? Or should I come out here and do what it's supposed to do? Come on, come on now, come on now. Somebody tried to kill them, man, somebody tried to kill them. Somebody trying to kill them.
So let me start out strong. But I do have to give a Guci main a double hair salute because when we um, when he extended that all the brands, he could have easily said, man, he could have easily said whatever he wanted to say. He could have easn said whatever. But like I said, what is the verses for? What is it for? Of course is it because competition. So I'm gonna play I'm gonna play my Deadly and Ship. If I got a competition with somebody, I'm not gonna
play around with the first song. Why why with the first song? So at least you could say, wait if I lose that first song he came out with boy he told her, as that's what I'm saying. So, I mean, I mean, if it's gonna be if you want to have rules in the verses, let's put the rules out first. That's not play. Let's not play those type of songs. That's being nice everybody that's been nice. I couldn't do
it unless we played exactly. They had a conversation what I'm saying to all me and UM, and I guess they an that I'm saying. That's that's what was Honora about an overall man at the end of the day for them to move on past a twenty year old beef and saying, like with the bodies to match, and I'm saying I can do the song that put them both in the game and say you see me like that. I mean like I was like, Wow, that was that was that? That was that's your was meaningful. And then
they went to what was it after that? Compound? Yeah, they got some more money. They got more money. You got streaming first with Damn Nell almost two points somebody billion looking at the million looking at it. So you got your streaming off, and then later on you got some mold. You got another bag too. Like you said, somebody was talking. We talked about it. Hey man, it's gonna make this money. That's gonna put on for Atlanta. You know what I'm saying, play whatever you want to play,
go chick. You know what I like if they didn't sack Vives and none of that, because I don't think they could ever really be friends, but I think they could respect each other's spaces. So the fact that they didn't want over the how because I don't think some people were saying, Yeah, that's what made me think that. I think that's deeper than around. That's game ship. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, that's set tripping. Wow, the show I don't just want playing. I didn't think it
was gonna happen. I'm glad that did, all right, so now cool, y'all ye back, No, you can't read it bath first read the meth that a lot of just both of them. I didn't read it, but they got this good. He want to be fun, be fun because everybody's spoken and dream Yeah, so y'all say, y'all down to do versus because okay, okay, you look at anyone older than tell you the joke just I'm not quiet,
dude's actually guy, I don't quiet, mavery. It's it's the age, but it's but it really depends when that come about and called off from anybody gonna get some smoke. If it's a call out, somebody singing us out, you know, that's a whole another you know you're saying, m O piece they want is a little family, My niggers of the press mact some my man. But it's just like back in the old days in New York where two mcs are battling, Right, somebody's gonna get paid at the
end of the day. You feel what I'm saying. Both of them might get paid, somebody might get more, somebody might get less, but it's it's an incentive to do it. Right. So now with the versus, what they got going on now, it'sn't incentive to do it now because with the streaming that's going on, you're gonna play all my music goddamn in one motherfucking day. I'm not gonna lie. You got got a bass food off and me and Capone was playing with it. But y'all can have it, can't Poe.
I can't vote racially out of this one to agree. Were together saying, I mean, the earth is only make sense if he's really friend to your friends. Your friends, it's dumb, you know what I mean. But I'm saying on the music that we got, it's not relegionry like that. They're trying to put me again face. The other day, I said, you're trying to kill me. Hell going to get scar face at all? No, let me say you gotta let me tell you. Let me let me just say this. No, we got promises, listen to let me
take take one time as a young artist. I got a number one record, superd I go to the last famous it asks me, yo, scar face is late. Do you want to close or go now? I shouldn't now, but I forget who was out there? One of my fool members like the cloth I'm just taking something. You can't come out of that. Harry Marry Marry Man. What I'm saying, Mary j Man, Yo, listen to me. I was like, Yo, listen man, listen to scar Face. I don't I don't need nobody wants one of his scarf.
He's so humble. Yeah, he's gonna beat somebody in Listen, listen. You don't understand how many joys And let me say something. Let me just say something. Scar Face got West Coast records. He got records that Jesse worked on the rest Coast that you didn't even know, like you know what I'm saying, Like like, because remember, man, I'm just telling you. He he goes in he I don't want to smoke time. I couldn't talk with Mary Mary Mary Man. After that, Well,
let's get back to was gonna say something. Yeah, I really feel like so you come on in you K that's goods. Still speaking about U g K right, Long lived EMPC, Long Live PEPCI Pipers said something that never resonated with my mind. I never understood this, and I asked everybody from the southeast. Pepper said that Atlanta is not even the suthe Pick couple of the Times. People many people, Man, No, I don't know what I mean he was talking about, have been in the Eastern Times
on Atlanta is really southeast. I mean, if you laid the ship down, most of the South's on the east coast, if you know, sit down flat, you know what I'm saying. Up top, New York is right there the southe right, and so it's really like really southeast really if you really, if you really do it, Texas is if you want to go south with it, they really all the way south. If yeah, So I'm still said, yeah, it's just the bottom.
Like man, ain't she called I am the bottom? Well, it's a period the artist I mentioned she caught in that face from Miami Backer then the bottom of the record, that recordar got signed on to. That's where it came from from burn that Jesus not. How how tough was it in Atlanta because right now, well you do, artists, they haven't I don't want to say a silver spoil, but for lack of a better term, they have a
silver spoil. You guys laid down the whole payment. So for persons coming from Atlanta right now, I'll signed the artist from La right now for no reason, for no reason, he got to dance Like me, I'm screaming, I'm talking some money, right, But that's the eve. How difficult was it you guys following outcast and that Atlanta see an imagine I just imagined how how it is? I would like one of your brothers. We was just down for the crown. I was gonna I was gonna answer the
question earlier. Just um, when you just said that we foresee any of it, let me just like, well, no, like, I don't think I can't recall any any time personally where I assumed anything. I just knew we were the ones I was gonna have to do the heavy lifting,
you know what I'm saying. And uh, you know, so when when you said were the first family in the first line of defense, that's literal I'm saying like you know, like and um, you know it was about pushing the line, you know what I mean, so that we were there to represent, you know, strengthen the word. I'm saying that you know you don't fear me and um and put the muscle, put the muscle on it. So like when we just when we speak about ourcasts being the flagship
and the franchise of Judge your Family. You know that's been times for what we've been described as like Okay, if if if Big enjoy is, I can Chuck and the flavor, then we would be considered the s one ws. Know what I'm saying with boys, you know what I mean? Was the backbone that first that first half were just that first alme we all did. Even though I'm the age I run with the I with the big how the day because I came and I met Joe, it
was the first day that I saw Low Ryan. I had heard about Low through my little brother and through his cousin if he had a cousin name Preach always talked about Low, So I knew about Low. So it's like one day I came to meet Cool Joe and Lower Cooljoe badly and I was like, damn. I was like, I've never seen Low Ryan, you know what I mean? Yeah,
they were battling each other. I could see this and then it was like it was like it was like it was like Low just step back like this is just started singing and it was like the most age and ship I ever seen at that time. Because I knew Low for knocking brown Folk got you know, he get you know what I mean. So that's why him battling cool Job was like, Okay, that's too bulldog right there. They're trying to see who gonna run the yard to
day girl. Joe. That was Joe was he was at his meet this deal like he was like, and I was like, damn Logan, he's still right there with Joe. I going back doing and that. But I had heard about you, and I knew I had to because he called me out. Because a lot a lot of a mutual a lot of different uh mutual friends that we all got, like I first heard, Yeah, I heard join t first Jim for on me killer Bee who ended
up managing me. But he was like, you know, he was like he was like he was the neighborhood dealer shout out to me. Yeah you let me. So it's a lifetime special right now. It's a story. This story is intricate, intricate pieces of details. I try to fucking not talk too long about it, but yeah, that's it's a it's to go back and some of us go back to kids man like me and Tea with the elementary school and nurturery School together the tea is three years older. That's the ps. Yeah, it's like Roman. I
made this man at a summer count Roman Academy. Then they kind of bled over to school, like yeah, if you didn't. My parents went at home when I got out of school, so I had to go stay like a little daycare type of spot until they got off work and they come pick us up. So he had said the same place we we we it's similar. We st up playing Connect four. That was our playing for
some reason, Me and this man. That's the way I make He was like a champion Connect four and I come up and me this man used to always stay on me. I almost say the time we play, we couldn't meet each other that cool, and I just want to at you. I feel like I'm kidding Connect. You got to do it Connect for versus. We're gonna do it now you're talking, Yeah, you're you look like you know. Then three thousand, we go all back to the third word. All of this year, so a lot of those we've
been we've been family. Yeah, I think there's some I don't know if irony is the word for it, but the fact that you're here today and today's the first day that they gave the first vaccine and then they slidified the presidency with the electoral and Atlanta's why the open, Yeah, and I think just we talked about it. We talked about it with Buster, We talked about with you guys on Fatherhoods, and I felt like, y'all music is all just the shot may come on alright, goddamn gonna see
take the good show, you five. So we got to talk about We talked about a little bit on Followers. You saw the the Ryan's episode, like how y'all got into into that subject matter about the book that he gave y'all. We I wanna talk about dream cham as well White Horse, Yeah, because it feels like y'all music is very profectic. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. I was scared, like I'm gonna be honest. When I was on my
way here and listening to see how music. I was like the nigs talked about at Nay before, like y'all talked about all the ship is going on all right now, I said, I forgetting the interview with this, and I'm like, yo, it's the government target And He's like, they fucking with y'all right now, because I just see y'all said. Then it's making sense still right now? How the fun everyone wants to speak honest, Well, I mean, yeah, okay, you got you got that Browns with that brother food might
have the rights. Let me give a ice and hockey. Yet well I think my you know, for me, my personal rearing end up bringing hands allowed to do with my style. You know, both my mother and father were uh we're ministers, you know what I'm saying. Um, And then I think we all took um maybe like an early interest in politics, you know, in social social commentary, social issues was my my My parents were also for Laptist in the city and having organizations for drug prevention
and intervention of things in that nature. And of course, you know, we come from a city of civil rights history, you know, um an activists with us, you know, rest in peace. John Lewis would just passed recently rapped, David app and Nathe Marl Luther King and the list goes on. All these people were there, and I'm saying, you know, um and um, we had people that were really active
in our neighborhood. Josea williams Adi Pat you know, back when talk radio was the thing you're round onund as a kid and the college, your parents, and you think just in the talk RADI here, you know what I'm saying. So by the time we came of age, man, I just think what you just here is um uls really just kind of being each other accountability partners. And you know,
because uh and being mature. I mean, like you know about the opportunity and like I said, like I knew we had I knew this was more than the job. It would be an adventure. So that you feel me like it would be a mandate and a mission statement,
you know what I mean? Like you feel me? Because again, like even the first two is what we was talking about earlier, We was really in the trick with anybody who was anybody now, any of that ship that we assumed from the East coast, you know, having a problem with the southmore that we could have got it on doing them times because we was up front and center. And I'm saying, you feel me. But fortunately body the time we got a chance to be there and represent ourselves.
It was all about respect. We just wanted we just wanted to earn a respect, earned deserve it, you know, I mean, like you feel me? And you know, we're the best hopes that the feeling would be mutual. But as far as you know what, you're here with the mu music man like get them was you know, in the nation early and something like some of us was dealing with five teachings you know Hebrew is like you know your name, and like a lot of information was
accessible to us. And I just took I took a liking to it, and I just wanted to be in the know. And I mean and um, you know um, and just you know, that's that's it. It was just like a natural application. I felt like, you know what I mean, um, And I think we really just even really just thought twice about the ship man, like you know,
just started just being honest. I think that's that's my definition of just being really being honest about your being dynamic and varied and seeming like you know, and texture the layering, like the human nature actually is. Like you mean, I feel like we you know, get fixated or we gotta you know, become these characters, these facage and like can just kind of stick to the script and stay
in pocket. And if you're selling something, if you know what I mean, you're feeling me but I always felt like it we could be a success at being ourselves and we could do what we want to do. I mean like for a lifetime. You mean like you feel me, And it was you know, the art would evolves as the person. I mean like you know, easy, yeah, it's just easy easy, how about madin sense? So when this so cool? So cool? This is this is getting to that? So fool was just tell them what that the initiative?
But you told me something about it's not so food, but you said so fool. Well I just felt like, you know, you're not only what you you are what you eat, and you are what you are, what you ingest, what you entertained by as well. So I just like wanted to be you know, wholesome. Let mean, like you know, and feed and feed into it and let me like you know, feed love, feed fucking wisdom. You don't like information and I mean you know energy, positive energy, you know,
I mean you feel me like I don't. I've just been an advocate of it and I'm saying it was easy enough to put it into music, you know what I mean. But I didn't realize we would have so much in common as far as that was concerned because everybody was strattle over fences when we was young. I mean like I was fucking the death and say you feel me, like you know, and one for then one without trying to trying to figure it out at that time,
you know what I mean. And I just think it was just it just happened to us, man that we just got called upon, you know what I mean. But that was an easy way to describe us. So we're so food because number one, we we we thought about ourselves as the food. That's not what I were talking about, but it was some mother said as far as like we've been a part of a food group, TEAMO would be the bread. You're gonna need that bread on your plate. Home team, You're gonna need that bread. Stop up that
that pot liver, You're gonna need that bread. Right, So get with the vegetables, right so you're gonna need that pulse. You're gonna need that pulse, right, I mean, look at the elephant. You don't eat other things. Strollers and motherfucker. Right then we had got see low was the water because you're gonna have to have something to wash it down when you got to have them that sugar. Rick you just had you some playing a water and I
was the meat on that play. It that shi could be wrong, it could be well done, it could be bloody, you know what I mean all that, So that's not look coming into this team, we're coming into this music industry, we had to have some type of game. You feel what I'm saying. But it's just it's just it's that so big. It's just so that was the greatest and that it's just so be that the game that we had was just some real ship. You know what I'm saying.
Because if you know about soul food, that mean somewhere in your family and somebody from the damn South somebody. So if you did not have soul fool and you did not, don't vote from your family, you feel what I'm saying. So the best way we could come into the game and try to explain, because we know folks, we're gonna be asking us an all type of questions while you talk like this, why you do this? While you do that, Let's go ahead and set it on up.
So food is what it is, you know, right? So now I mean since it's growth, now you might have some different on your plate. Now you might be cooking with different oil now, you know what I mean, you might have a veggete sold plate right now, you know what I mean, it's just might has to just program me. It's it's all about growth. So that's what Survival Kid is all about about growth. From ninety five on the between it feels now that it's all family all together now.
At one point killing Mike breaks off, it's a part of the group breaks off, and it seems like he has this beef with big body. What happens at that moment for y'all, what what what's going? Ain't never seen that? Yeah, y'all picked up on some of that. You might know more about that that. I mean that one alum that was between them and then me and they were working on who was kind of like ut side of the street today, you know what I mean? That was the
perfect river man. And you know, you know I was there when the interaction happened top of glasses of purpose and purple motherfucker fig. I mean, I was there, you know, you know, Um, nobody was I mean, nobody was harm bad. Nobody was bad, and nobody was harm bad. It's like it was just you know, just a little talent, you know what I mean. And then was you're like, we're
old and we talked about it. They talked about it, and it was never seen in the public again with that situation and him him being there so close after that situation and that it made everything about there was a ship even you know we're around it, you know what I mean, because Mike was new, you know what I mean, he was new, he was new to crew and a lot of things that went on doing no time. You gotta little we had slim Cot whom we had a little will which you gotta look when you looked
at that Gluca battle. Dungeon family was involved with that because a little will came from us so and at the same time it was like we had a fat song, a little we so ling. So it's like with all of that, I mean, that situation got you know, dealt
with and then we moved on to other situations. Yea, it's when it's when you did get the best and it made it gripes public and so we're far like you know, probably required a public demonstration because you know why, you know, I would be honest when we see that, remember t I Ludacres. Then we see the kid kill a white big boy because in New York, you know what we say. All right, we'll tell y'all we talk about job from y'all around, we're gonna save you the
same man. So boys, yeah, soul, it can't be like dumb, you know. So when this is one specifically Atlantic, specifically Atlanta were like like I would take when we talked about y'all like we we we were fact and salute y'all, but we get confused when y'all go through a New York type of ship, like when the Killer Mike Big Boy ship happens, when the tr Lua Kris ship happened, Like y'all you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, I
would get a couple of others. So it goes home, but I'll show we had we Most of the time we keep it civil because of how everybody has solved the dungeon. Vanna keep you sivil like it's still stays simvil amongst the youngest, you know what I mean, Like it might be incidents that happens, but I think that you don't. It hadn't. It didn't go no further than those little incidents, you know what I mean? Most of the time, allowing people to really get in the room,
you know what I mean. I see the picture with Atlanta. It's always I'm gonna tell you one of the biggest mediators and the letthersone gonna be dealers. Yeah, he gonna come in and media a lot of stuff. I can't say that, but because at one time, I mean, and a lot of stuff that like they might you know what I mean, be going on because like a lot of things like that sort of kind of thing. Dallas
born raising on that if you come on love. But I just say that because a lot of times one of the elders will get involved in mediate just like even when you saw when when when young thugs saying what he said, still you saw t I said, hold on, I expected both sides, you know what I mean. And so that's the I think that's the respect we all have. And we all can say if we're wrong, if we wrong, sooner or later we you know what I mean, Because even seeing the couch and somebody in that in that
bad room said I'm wrong on my phone. I mean, so that's why they could do it. So that's the same situation. I think, Uh, we never really hand the deep hate thing for each other, like man, we praise y'all. I'm gonna be tell again. I'm gonna tell y'all what we say about y'all when y'all other round, Like why the South do it like I'm talking and meet as the West Coast people talking? He was looking at it,
he said, pecipally Atlanta, like look at them. They'll have a beat one week and then you know whatever, and then met on the record and do it tour together, Like why we can't like like with New y what it looked like to us, See like with New York, we ain't. We didn't never think that. We thought that y'all, mothercker was all together. You feel what I'm saying, because it like it was. It was talk about the look
I'm talking about. But when they first started with it, you didn't see nothing south around that, nothing south around. It was like a big it's like a gate around New York hip hop. Because mother to all of that I'm talking about before you yeah, yeah, before we came out, we're still being in the jungle, being in the tunnel, like I knew, like you've been hard brook queas like it was all is sectioned off in the ships got here. Before a minute, all you heard on the radio was
New York hip hop spension downside. But d that's that's what you That's what I've been telling you. Yeah, that's what we're gonna that that that depends an automatic had for us anyway, because if y'all from y'all city and y'all had read here and we when we even know that's something with y'all, y'all myself that happened. But that was the greatest thing for the strip club. That's why I tell people you will never be able to shut it Lena down like you do everybody else. As long
as the strip clubs. That was always I know what's going on the strip club. Everything you got to get DJ DJ Smurf, people like Yen Yang and all those countries broke, shout, the shop broke. It's all that strip strip that's like, as I got you shoot the gup. Wow, I'm sorry. So that's why they do if your cup we did a coup, I'm sig how they poor friends? Come on, Why you got emotion to you? You'll fly, dude, time,
come on back. You can get up. Yeah, now we're gonna keep you going, man, don't saying I'm staying I never worry, but we're gonna get some of that a spade. You know, you get a new car, get a new car up tame for that. Yeah, cup, I just did my ain't Spain cups at Spain comes up ready ever, let's come base. I'm say you got no good race. Class man got there emotionally got there. You picking moment that motion back in hospod on and we're here. We called the mp A. I mean man said it was
called Amy and you have an alcoholic. When we spoke, we we need some times always did with drank look and Bill at all times, specially old it was a hundred yeah, old English and bull alcoholic. That's all we was. Man, it's nineteen eight, nine eighty nine. Glen Cook, will Knife, Karen Williams, Donald Williams, um Bottom, H. J. Willingham called everybody name out. Uh. It was just so many drinkers, man, I don't don't know what it was. We just had
this fascination with Bill, especially specifically maltliquor. Who was really in the different saying, I say I didn't even when you mean the South. It wasn't number Old English bull country called Mickey's Creek, King Cobra, who country your name is? Hold on, wait a minute, old train at nine. Okay, slim Niles litz Litzi's hilarious. J Yeah, so yeah, told me yall you have to say, I don't know say ice que. I started the commercials. In the commercial the commercial,
how do you do? Said old English? What's the Billy Williams involved? Yeah, old just us dump searette hs in the in the in the Old English and drink the ashes and ship what the fun conferences? So we were on some sun up down the south side, man the south side. The motherfucker's back and back Newport's bessing that Joe came over the game. You know, I'm trying to start the burn you with a secrette Oh yeah, ain't after after we get drunk. See who can take the
pain you started? Okay, let's start putting the cigarettes side on your on your skin. That was a game Joe used to put the album. Yeah, I just see no purpose of that, because I'm trying to see if you if if you had any in the feeding you. It's like if you're scared of Fine, I know you're scared of Fane you're scared of fire. I know you're scared of fat. You can't go. That's that's im Boks for that. So I just feel about Travis scott Us. That's how all that good music came upout. I just want you
to hear what he said. But like all of that good, he mups with the content. Man, this's reform, you know what I'm saying. Reformed. Man, they've been a got down, they've been a check man. So I'm talking about that. So Travis got you south there? Yeah? What was it? Five cents? Name right? Yeah? Man, it's it's amazing we never even answered that. Man. Um I think I've started talking about weather ship but um sale therapy man just end up being this fucking how do you even described
and recommend what that rentle is becoming? A way the youth just embraced that, like so many motherfuckers are sample that it's becoming one of the most sample. I'm like, you know, hip hop rock. I think that was because we're definitely gonna see us for using It's like, now we know that's originally y'all created. You create, that's guy, there were the way you don't stand on is that
all our music is original. Do you come on eat your fucking still, hold on, hold on this ship your way speak at colon, we got you go get it never time ever, I'm sorry time listen it's so fu I never get tied to go to songs. You prod us and you want to go boys go scootail Who when this man kid from the skid that he said, man, you see boss so hard and I keep me on. He would say, keep body and party couples to see the time who you were her feeling shows man so
sometime p team So that's teen years old. Set even don't like to wear. They just love to I know sold surpass with the crew every day. All that about all five he bout the coast my best ship. Who says about smoking. Now you won't think I'm saying I hear, I'm so don't like because it's con Try to say, bus come in my home and I u wee all the fuckinglin with no phone for the man with the manzine, the white ponyo back amazin sad blazing ride. So would exact my seeing to go do it now it went
for you back not because say where you're Seleston? When I call should come how if you're way my go Yeah, she's just hearing. Its hearing this ship change class. Take me right back to fighting club. Then I get that energy. Let's be I feel like I want to defend it. Listen,
this ship ship is class. Nah. One of those I kind of him is like argue really wanted to want to That's some there were five wanted like everybody grandmother no that Like like, dude, you really at the bobacill, but like this, bords don't get played at the bottom. I guess we know why the barb was generic youth. If that's so the Bobs, then you can't be playing candict something. You gotta play the ship that's going to everybody. I'm gonna save you something to fectual. That bracket get
played at every wild New York City. And so don't you ever think that I've been at every bottle. I'm so glad we did so coolly everybody ever tell you listen to me, just copy assholes in New York. This is a this but that ship you played at every goddamn that's where That's where it means brands. Yeah, to take these drugs. I was taken at this time. I don't even think we even had Green. I think we were still we were still on that. We were still on that. By the Brown were still on some good
set reckon. I don't even say it was racing. We would say it's me, We say it's me Green until Rico, until Rico, it's real crown to the dudgeon. When he brought the crowning to the dudgeon, that's what we start taking on, Bro White School of Atlanta. It was terrible. Yeah, yeah, especially if you're from the spot, especially if you're at and then you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right at that, you're right later. But there was some spots
that we used to go to that was in the hood. Hood. Bro, you couldn't you couldn't tell what type of back it was man, whether it was Green up Brown. That ship was getting you there, I gotta say it was O. G. Timmy died the first one ball back. Then you need Timmy dead ship you know, hood? Yeah there you got I got better. Yeah, yeah, but it got better. You know what I'm talking about. It got better the rest of peace. O. Timmy did already make noise. We saw
what it was. It yo, mom, Yeah, solid. No no, no no. Um. But but when we was talking about earlier, it's crazy how this record is coming back around for a circle and you know the information in it. I was just I'm really just still a little perplexed on how I was even able to translate how people understood it because it was new information when we we when we put it into the record, you know what I'm saying. So, but I guess it's just that beatle. It's just the
power that that groove. What I mean, this is just undeniable, what I mean. But you know, um, but now that we're living in it as a reality, let me like the lyric just kind of it just it jumped out at you now, you know what I mean. Um, it's amazing. But you know, the information was it was available, just like the fellow white horse. But you know we had to put poor righteous teachers the horse shout out the wise and ye man that wait, see that coming from
the South. That's why this is stood out so crazy. It was like they're breaking down for racious teachers, ship without being for racious teachers, you know, y'all. Yeah, we're saying if our presentership, that's that's the reason why it was deep, you know, in to some information, right, I mean I was. I was some girls house and I had some information about the New World Order. And it was a dude inside of jail cell. He said, Man, this is my sale theory. This is what I got
to do every day. I mean a little box. I got a window to lookout, I got a book to read. This is all I do. This is my sale there. That's like, bro, I feel you. I got to use that for for got theble to tie the posts all sail there. So I was like I was with you. I didn't try to do that there. Man, weren't even trying to do it. That's I ain't because and I talked about myself. You know, HOI holid that you from
the y'allo when you was in the y'all. Nothing like I said, This was a VCR tape that I was looking at that a sister had turned me on two that was over house writing my rapes and ship. Right, she put the tape in, and like I said, they was talking about the New World Order on the tape. I didn't know this brother, but he just happened to be a part of this documentary. He was saying that this is my sale therapy. He was locked up in the fucking sale and I was like, damn, I beat there.
I've been there, so I was like, man, that ship sounds good for the name of a song sale there. So then the who's that picking in my window pile? That was a lumber jack hook that man Timo was vibing over years before that, so that ship was aged and old like hennesson that It was just aged. So it was just just Kis waiting to be you. So you too had that hook? Yeah? See me? Who's that picking up out? We had men, We had lumber jack songs,
goody mob songs. That's when we were starting out in recording, so that hook felt fit properly at that time with the production that they had at that time. So it was not only but as good emore hook pride. So we remember that hook, don't you t I don't think it was. I don't think it did. We did we record that bok? That hook wasn't recorded. It was vibing all that it. How did you come up with it? Just man, me and this guy here. Man we ride out freestyle all the time in the car. Yeah, somebody
wasn't People in your window. It wasn't. It was just say somebody, I'm just saying, it's just some gangster ship to where you're protecting your ship. You know what I'm talking about. You're protecting your ship, right, And it's just it's just so happened that you read it for their asses if they're coming in peeping in your window. But it was making the relative to be a brother. Yeah, big brother, big take. Yeah. Yeah. Somebody said brain cell of course, but why sail the rap? We had all
that type of shipdn't like cell therapy? Why sell the wrap? So we started working with that, like taking the y from the inner cell therapy, put it in the front of cell therapy. Why sell the rap? Dude? Was ship like that? We didn't put it out there, just wasn't really on the understand. Stop think is a really deep it's something that we like trap music, but we don't trap music of course. And then and then the power Nobody Now we was like Prisoners of War po w PI.
Don't nobody now. So I mean we was ready for anybody, dum. We were just ready for anybody. Holy, that's what I'm saying. That's what that's what I was basically trying to say, but I wanted had called though because it was so texted. I mean, like god slang was our own, that she was unique and original, you know, first first of its kind. It mean as we were coming in and so for the record that to to translate resonate to people, I mean like in a way that we would have wanted to,
you know, be counted. And I'm saying the larger community and culture at hip hop let me like, you know, we were just trying to just earn I keep and the men you feel me and was dope is that all casts had already come out there hip hop, but
y'all something completely different, right what I'm saying. But in the same to no doubt, that's and that's why people that we look at organized nors being jeez, that's why we're looking at them being one of the best producers out there because they get you out care say gluey mom did sound like right, So you gotta look at the things they were able to do it It sounds big pable, you know what I mean, Because that's I feel like that's the that's what people don't really look
at me like I'm using catalog. It's damning Richie, though you can't go to none of house all to say that ever that comes from that, not like how everybody else was kind of set up and how they were set up in music organized made sure that we came out this composition. So with that being said, but rich In a compens about last forever. When that simple thing and so many people got hit by those simple laws and all that kind of stuff, it wasn't affect It
wasn't affecting. It wasn't say we never did a poption there anything. People was saying, y'all, yeah, we like it's it isn't it's at new Young. It just came out called a little bit, just simplest. He got a video. He just signed a major deal his first season. Said there, Yeah it's crazy. Yeah, it's as good as a sample. Little because I would have thought that was a sample. The man man. I wish Rico was here to tell you what it was from. I don't want to get
a secret out what he got that from. But when I heard what he got that from, I mean I was just blowing away. That's why when it first came on, like bump but bump, Bump Buck, I wanted to keep rapping that same way down. But I couldn't because once the eight wants the eight, Oway's got it and everything else got enough. It was done. But damn, I want till a little bit right, even though he pop when he got that from that, my mom's done. I mean, let's take the stops about it. After that, let's take
this shot. The sound, the sound of the sound of trash. I don't tell you it wasn't It wasn't a soul record. It wasn't a jazz record. Was it from scientology? It wasn't even science. It is so simple. You know what you close, man your clothes, but no seek close, man, close, I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. I'll call you, and tell you what I'll call you. Because when I heard where it was from, I was blown away. Can come and tell us himself? That's how about that? How
about that? You get organized? Norms overre just documentary. I think I feel like I'm st organized really door yeah yeah, was on net Yeah, but Netflix, I think I saw that. I was about to say, like that trap music and krunk, the other subgenres that came afterwards, you may have to us. They they are more the scene is more synonymous with a Southern sound than that sound. Want that to try so if you have your something, I'm po pologized putting form.
But track music as we estapished earlier. But the team ons, you know, yeah, it was really in the traffic making track music didn't call traffic. Then Kruk music is attributed to a little jar right right? Are we are we clear on that super clear coin due? So I mean what I mean they have to you have to share that with true six you have. We took a crop, but that was calling it buck. Yes, they were saying
get both music. We were saying get crump music. So I think Memphis and in Lan is married together to hear on creation crump. Okay, that's just totally Let me ask you this, and I think I know the answer to it's outcast before a little John. Yes, yes, that's a trick question because I remember hearing just like I remember hearing Dre saying, just like people say, well, Coojoe, we heard that you the first one to come up
with the word trap. And I said I had to beg to differ because I heard Andre three thousands say trapp yes, and players ball you said Trappa. No no, no, no, no, he said, I set up Trapp. Shut up back. Yeah, I set up Trapp. Set up that. No's that's about some soil of nine. I got sa cro hold on, I got it first thing. That's the first single, first album. Plasall plays ball nothing. So he said trap and kronk in that verse. In that verse, you see what I'm saying.
So where did Dre get the word trapped from? Are we looking at him right now? Where you're looking at them? All I'm saying is I just like to cleip. I just like to clear the record up, clear the record because Dre said trapped before I said trapped. But Dre is a little bro, so he's see Big brothers doing what they were doing. So Trapp was given to us from the streets. That came from the streets. When Timo save you a weird over, my homie big lamp House.
We was in the trap, in the trap, writing wraps in the trap, and he just happened to be the first one to put it on. He was just happened to be the first one to observe what niggas was doing and say, Okay, big brother they trapping. I set up trapped. Shut up that no sense about no solid night. I gotta say crook if it ain't red on rhyme. So he's looking at them. We got to having so so we was making we just getting trap, but we weren't talking about Trapp eight. You see what I'm saying.
Like I said, big dudder, we in the trap. He turned us on the parliament. So he's like, man, this is what we're doing. But this is our p phone. We had some ship in the bags like this, this is what we're settling. This is our ship. So we the p phone good am. So once it left the trap, it came to the good time, mostly locking room talking right. Yeah. I had never heard of parliament like that in the trap and he was like that that's just so much. So that's what that is. Liked rapper all time. I
think I'm saying Tupar. It was Tupac almost in a good amp. Yeah, he was one time man. We was in the warehouse good all about before his pulps just walked up to me and told me that Paul was trying to get with us. You know, I sa't wanna do some music, was trying to see what he could do to get what. He was in jail a good time. She gave me all this information. He was in Clinton at that time. So, you know, we just I don't even know how much we've discussed it because it was
just so surreal, you know what I mean? That how how you probably don't get your to jail. You know, we didn't know nothing about that. I'm talking about less than a month later, he was signing death row to call you first call looking for some family. Man, I would have belonged, and I want to be saved me yell. I mean, people, that's crazy. Imagine that would have been your kids too at the time. Yeah. Still so y'all, y'all, you ain't know how to handle that situation. Y'all don't
know how to till gonna did y'all did? We did? We did because he was a comrade, Okay, you know what I'm saying that we said we would love that, we would have loved to have him on board, and so we asked to actually be a part of goody mom. Man. He asked to be a part of the mall. That what the girl was telling me at that time. I was speaking through her. I couldn't talk straight to him. He was on chrisybody got a shot because my shot is ready. It was crazy. So remember listen, we're going
right back to the juke box. But we this is deep. The girl hits you. So his policy saying it wasn't girl polices. She was in the warehouse who good was performing in night. I don't know if she's just having the kiss me first sounding everybody, not be that she was picking me out the mom. I don't know if she just wanted to connect with us and let us know that he was trying to reach out to us. Then she got trying to get us to the getting at us through our office. You know what I'm saying.
Once he called the office, you know, out for real, he was, but sh like I said, a month later, she'll hand him signed out. When you knew that that phone call to you, it was real because it hadn't been able to you know, and had we even know what what to facilitate. We didn't know since that not that we could have. But I was saying that it wasn't even though, but I'm imagine, imagine, imagine las. Yeah, he made still be here, you guys, guys made him
to food. Let's just litte good will you think that would have had Dade now, man, you know what, because I think he still would have been the person that he turned out to beat like he still with y'all drawing, like he still would have been to who he is, but he would have been y'all. He might have moved
into the linta bro. Yeah. I mean he was I always gonna he was about Pumer and he probably just proc Yeah, he's shouting the police in Atlanta back DNC when he was me dfcu way went to the club, he got damn got he got thrown out of now, yes, and then that's one pot ain't out of being saying funky funk. I was went pot that night, me d o C and MC breed and we went to we
went Ruined the Green. Yeah, with then I don't know say the girl went to say that Pop touched on the booty, and Pop like, man, they ain't touched nobody on the booty. But at that time he was just so hot and he was just so hot, and then they went right at him and then I put the video or the other day when he went back up he was talking to the girl. He was like, man, I ain't touched the girls, but the girl was like, na, y'all keep out of here, and that's when he went
the funk out funk yall. Now we got in the car, just start throwing birds out of the car. And it was crazy. It was like he was just he was always into it. Like I remember the first night Pa was performing, we was at the Au Joe. We went to jail that night and the bad you had that thing, damn yeah. Sooner we got the yeah and our PoTA was open and up. That was the first time to show him in the let. He was feeling shoes did I mean he was feeling what was that? Yeah, you
know the one he played birdieing. Oh. Man, he came in. He was late. He jumped on stage and the first thing he said, they said, Pop, you only got fifteen men, but you're late and don't be cut. He said, they're trying to take the stage. I want trying to tell this motherfucker up. He went right up there saying that I said that what he said, the man that they made me get off the stage, I want trying to
tell this motherfuck up. And he said, let me tell you something when you're going right now, sir, this is the South, said you're gonna learn, and it was over with. You know what I mean? He was and he went right to a club. He went on. He went to another club after party, got on stage, and when somebody started sucking with him in the crowd, he threw the bed and hit a girl in the face. Anybody, Uh, I can't see how like he was just always man.
He didn't mean, he didn't been. I never meant to, but he wouldn't see was awesome piece pop met some piece breed. Everybody here? Did you ever did you ever meet Pim? See? He meant tupop? Okay, I better I not only met, but that was my own. But he was crazy. Can't I tell you he wasn't crazy, but he wasn't genious. I see the first the first day Emi genius is crazy. But he was the first person that showed me how to school records. He told me to come and he used to stay in Mabel two
in Atlanta. He said he'd become to my house. He just finished Ryan Dirty and Pim said. I walked into the house and Pimp had a cassette tape. He put it into the BCR. I was like, man, what you're doing. He said, that's how we got that. When we master the records, we put it on cassette tapes to make sure there can't nobody, you know. That was that was to make sure because he was always scared, you master your album in New York, that it was some kind
of way you finding way on the streets. And it was their bootleg, so he was kind of like, Okay, I get this ship, I see what's going on. Yell. So then what I'm gonna do? He said, I put the master copy on the VHS tape. He said, they had never knowniced on there. They're never still that. So that's how he brought it back to it then, and he put it in. Before he put it in, he said, he took the back off the thing and he screwed. So I said, pamp what you're doing? He said, I'm
screwing it gilt. I said, screwing what? He said, Man, you're going the back of and you're trying the peach down. What is that? He said, you school right. Then that's when he played it, and the whole ALM played screwed in the DHS. The first time I've seen what you do to scowl record. He showed the recipe. Who damn but school it's so straight and Houston ship, did you feel obligator to do? Screwed to us? Well, screwed the first person to hand us in this house and the
first went to use do we were wrapped? Screw is a little good at my mom, But okay, I just I second. Yeah, wow, screwed the person that blew us up in Texas because he screwed Seale therapy said, therapy is what everybody rhymes over. Oh boy, so that's not still with with us because how did that sound? It was very slow, but like when you you gotta get on lean man, it's like it's like a djin. Maybe one time when we went to Texas, maybe once, but
that's that's all. We was that together. Maybe we were there together, but I think it was the night and we did the show with MJ with m J G eight mom and everybody was in the cards with the be the B two leaders were like the little time I was liken, what is that? Remember? Remember we did we did the show with it was Cu and it was mac ten. They was in the elevator water and then we jumped in the van with somebody. It was a girl. She's like that we drank this ship like
like wine. It's like a like a social thing, you know what I'm saying. They pulled up in the car. That's like when the first time, I really like when when I left. Yeah, it was a do some. I ain't going back to the as trying to God damn get laid because if that wasn't that was wasn't my thing. You feel me, bro, that's wants If God wants that, they just make it. It's like drinking heroin fore you man, I don't know what they got up. You know, if you like people sloving and y'all going on, I was
like that that y'alla y'all. So it's always that purple. That's that touch. That's that touch that that's that's what they like in Memphis. So you know, like Memphis and Texas doing that then, so you know even when the coaching man, you know coaches, that was what they do. You know what they're doing that alcohol trippers week? What to the alcoholic trick in? Now let's get into utiful skin all right, you guys best start with Lord right there.
He starting them. Yeah, like another another musician, Homie out of the neighborhood was playing in Our Lives band Craiging Enough shout out to Craig Love playing the guitar for us almost first Tools, and he was doing some production on the side. We just asked me to come by. So it wasn't that we said a couple of streets over from each other. I went over, you know, just tak us some initiative, because other than that, we didn't really move around outside of what over Nights Nords we're
supplying and what I'm saying. But m I think they're giving us a little bit more wiggle room on the second record, so um and and plus he was the home me. So I went over there. I got a vibe off of it, and I kind of thought maybe it was the just a continuation of guests who which was a song about our mothers, you know what I mean. So I figured that was just like the next natural progression, you know, keep praising, keep praising our women up, lifting them him say a fee and giving him power, the
power of acknowledgement. I'm saying, I didn't see that. Yeah, I feel like if he makes a close to that, brother, you should get your clapper shine. This is old natural organ and let me just take that something, brothers, And that's be honest, y'all. We love y'all. Good move we were talking so respectful is about y'all. I don't know if y'all, if y'all know it, y'all watched the episodes. You know, you guys are legends, and that's what what
it should be like. I shouldn't feel if we feel great to say, you know how great your brothers are. You know what I'm saying, How how much y'all mean to the culture, and how much we wanted to display because it's one thing to say, it's one thing to talk it, but there's another thing to display. And right now, that's just what we wanted to display like. We had
a great year. We had nays all round to everyone this year, and there ain't no way to take form with basta that goody mother yeah yet in the year. Motherfuck I want and I've told y'all and I'm hung out with each one of y'all, but I wanted y'all to know how much y'all mean to the coaching to y'all face, bro, you know, to your face. So let me take off the motherfucking classes let me get my life over there. Want to see with goody moll, y'all
one of one? You know these paintings and these fucking rich people who have in their house up in these rich people houses. Would I'll be hating too whatever. I don't get this ship, but now I get guess you're gonna it's good y'all. Have one of one world, Have every have another goodie park down. That's it. This is it, y'all. All, The one of one, y'all, all the Richard Meal. We don't need another great because we got another four man.
We're gonna's gonna shoot them. Look at lots this and three man to leave me alone, give me one forward. That's that's it. And I'm just telling you it's real ship like hip hop in case you I don't know this, are you casey? I don't know thise. I would like to tell you out to your face man and said that y'all did and said that you're bumped to the game. Super South guy. You know, I'm super East Coast, but
I've traveled to the South, so I appreciate it. I feel like I appreciate you guys been here just as much as said I know east from the South, so he gets a little from South. People an't got that man already, but I want you to know. I want you to know rest peace as a little y'all motherfucker. I'm claiming y'all tonight too, may because good emb needs to be respective, couldn't be respected, and on this platform, always be respect. You asked me about people from Skimer.
I want to ask you by one of my favorite records of yours. It's not gonna happen to that man, you know. Oh, it's about goodie moms. He got up side, got a little book. I didn't truck, went out and good we're gonna start a goodie when y'all gonna get you together. Took about y'all ship is what we're doing, and then we're gonna get to Jack. But tonight I did not allow it, not aloud. I'm gonna tell you something though, that I was in the barbershop by like a week or two ago, and uh, I told what
to do? I said, man, I say, man, man, the mom we're going on drinks and he's like, what from the South. And there I was like, what, oh, man, y'all gonna y'all gonna drank champ. Oh it's over. You say it's oh, we say, man Nori and got that, and he said, man, they'd be talking about some really shit I'm talking about in the barbershop all the way in Atlanta. I mean, stop red, y'all, not damn man, nobody. So man, you know up man, thank you for the
for the platform. But it's not even that. Bro. Already I gotta stop you. Already, stop you thinking me. I know what it is. This is your platform already, this is y'all. He built this. Y'all think about this. If I could be something, I just want to stand. I watched Jerry Sign do some sick for comedians he calls, and he said, comedius called me the comedy comped cars off.
He said, all I like his motherfucker comedians, And it sucked me up because in my mind, really all I really like, like I like my Piers Trash, the people who did it before I came out of lending seven and came out money farm. There I'm on old geez case. I ain't ever say that. I don't know that I'm saying. And they don't they don't make they don't make anything on me. Don't make anything less of me. And the thing is I wanted to spread that type of energy
and our old ship. We should always do that course, I always say, and it will take nothing away from me. You were saying, you good, but it might be an component or wow, real ship, damn that. Don't you build upon your predecessor now? But you you you build upon that man's foundation. That's what you do. So after here
you'll be like my little problem, a little problem. You speak that it's ship guy's ship, like we're supposed to sit back and say, yo, yes, But I know this should passion because I recall the Um, the Ennevius, that true Earth, and even just like trying to really get that you, you know, convince you otherwise about bringing more than young He said, I can't please to take the shot. It's the old day you took. Get you out of you, you know what, Boston, So I know I know your dream.
When you're passionate about that, think about the younger people and let me let me address I'm not opposed younger hardiest on it gos not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is they have these model dick shows where they can go I need this preserve for mine legend or this is the home, or this is the home for the letters young on here, but it's the home. Happy now ug throw off younger on here. But I'm not gonna lie to you when you drop your next movie.
You want to drop your next set of sets and you want to drop, you're supposed to come here because you know why I'm a you and you are lost. If we are a un don't go to Ellen de generous damn hello Ellen. No. But after that's one time that you know what lives did for us when he just didn't drink Champs just did drink chance for the who was It You? Album? It wasn't king should feel oh so when he did our he did loss tapes, Loss tape three, they just did all. He just did
drinks it. That's sets us down in the atmosphere that you know what fun doing CBS so fun doing you know this out? If you we do a good enough video, guess what cbsn't all? I mean a new time, it's a new times. That's why why in the Trump ring Trump it's like the time because we're talking about nows on that record. What I'm saying, what talking about he got another baby out. Get listed it all right. That's backbone Man shouts out to the whole boy, backbone castcade. Man.
That my sleep partner Man. I used to trap with Man. That is a trap with man. Um. Let's be clear for New York people, bro Cirk for West Coast people. But it's not from the South. You say he used to track just just we used to work together. This work together the co workers, Yeah, the co workers. But we was paid by cash and we didn't have to rate some Friday to get paid. But he's a sleep talking man, one of my sleep partners man for mom. Yeah,
he's from Thorough High School. By the factage from won the rival schools. See, we went to Maize High School. Right, so we're gonna get block Arrow is over on that block overever. But for some reason, Man, we remained to be We was friends, Man. So we started trapping together because we you know, we knew the same we knew the same traffic. Jack. See what he's describing Man. Growing up in Atlanta was pretty similar to the urban version of Outsiders. Remember movie ye Johnny Uh, who's this ship?
U fucking Patrick Sweezy Uh, Matt Dillon Musami. But like we had rival high schools and ship like that. So like motherfucker's would leave after a football game and everybody for this, you know, it's just New York nigga. We thought everybody in Atlanta's get along. Nah, you didn't know, but it was it was hand up. This was a fall of the gun play. Now it was a gangland
in Atlanta. Actually, it's about actual It's about tolerating motherfucker at the end of the day, because say, if you got to go to work with some niggas you don't like, and you and you gotta feed your family, it's about being grown by that situation and tolerating for them nine ours. You gotta work and gonna get back on on the other ship. You see what I'm saying. So I think niggas in Atlanta they tolerate each other. Forgive nigga's their
own space. Because if it comes to what nigga's bumping heads. Everybody got everybody got guns, everybody knows everybody, everybody can got them pull up on everybody. It could go down before whatever. You know what I'm saying, But for what for what I mean? Are you dad emotional? You're that sensitive that we got to go to the wall over some some words at the end of the day to give each other the space signed when they're riding and had to see that. I just want to throw that
out there, but I'm not gonna lie. We looked to Atlanta for for to be the leadership should be Wow, Like I mean, this is not like, it's not wrap, this is as a black like we got the black man what's her name, Lass bottom Ship. Like we looked at y'all for leadership because like I said, I said, with coma, which is the fact that's what she was getting. A fictitious thing, but in real life it's the closest thing. Yeah.
Like it's like it's something in the water like it mean, like it's just a really you know, welcoming place, you know what I mean, Like it's really something special about it. Um. The people you mean, like you know, loving, generous, open, kind of transparent. I'm saying you feel me um. And there's a lot of you know, opportunity there and saying family, the industry is there, like the people are getting things done for cheaper, you know what I'm saying. Um, property
value is great. Now as far as marketing, you know, it's concerned and it's just you can you can ride fifteen twenty minutes outside of the city and it's like nothing but rural and I mean like land. It's like it's it's really still the country. People forget. You know what I'm saying. I live on a ranch and I'm saying, joyn you what I'm saying, it's like, you want the ranch. I think we should all move to Georgia. I want
to march. I need property. I mean you should. Atlanta's only place that you could know you could really shoot Andrew Young like an actual person. You're walking a little good, like that's because of the Chinese. That okay, like that in the city, like somebody there walking with Keen and somebody you're walking with the Lewis like really actually went through the struggle. So I hat hank Aaron staying right across the street from the second Dungeon. It still got
that to this day. Yes, but we saw the garden or a city, even when coming up without success, so certain things it was like we wanted their respect so doing respectable, respectable music. I felt like we got it because even now the elders could come in and be like man good Mom did a good job. It's it's it's educators. They have sons that came to me and said, man,
y'all my mother's favorite group. She educated kids with y'all lyries because the way y'all did y'all music, y'all put real life Southern groups in the in the new songs, and that's that's it's people to come here and say, bro. I didn't had no fun. Y'all raised me. When I heard good Am, I learned the first time I heard Goodama Low told me get us, get out and get something. When when when you gotta remember when we was making this music, man, the the industry or was on full
black gangs, the gangs to kill kill man. They would get that's what the industry was. And we were still saying what we were saying and still cutting through that at that time when kids were still saying, Yo, I got y'all CD. I didn't have it then, right, But but I heard what I heard some of them songs y'all said. It made me feel like I gotta take care of my mom. If it's just me and my mama the streets, I'm gonna take care of my MoMA.
Good Mom, here and like this. It's like this. If you're show the chaos and corruption all your life, you want to find something. If you want to find something good at it right, at least try to find something good to live right. So I think that's what people should look, just like New York. When when rap came out of New York, we're down here in the South. We looked up like, man, that's inspirational. We want to do that crushed group, beat Street. Damn that ship is nice.
I'm somebody, We're coming Once I've seen those movies. I went to school with some suade Adidas on no goddamn shoes strings in it. And guess what everybody else was. They must have said at the same time I saw it. Everybody in they must have seen at the same time. So I'm like, we found some type of inspiration in
in in in hip hop in New York. So when you're talking about looking down south and trying to find some type of inspiration, yes, find some type of inspiration in chaos if you can, and corruption if you can. You feel what I'm saying, because Funcke you got it like ice Cube, say fuck it. If Joe Biden or Trump the president my daddy told me, I gotta get up to work the next day. I gotta go to work tomorrow. You see what I'm saying. So if you're
gonna live, ship, find some motivation and some ships. So that's what that's what I see in these young um, these young mcs coming out of Atlanta, Georgia like a little baby or Ghanna. You know what I'm saying. It's it's it's many more jid or Earth game. Let me find some motivation in that ship and see if I can got there. Yeah, so let me see if I
can find some motivation. It's an inspiration and that ship and push this hip hop envelope a little bit further, because too it looks like it's just a business for something. Niggas you got. Niggas got rack phones in the game while you wrapping, Nigga, if you got if you gotta stackphone and shipped like this, and why are you rapping? When when rapping came out, it was about the guy damn struggle. Right, did you see n w A with racks? I mean, I'm easy, I'm pretty sure easy. He had
the game, but he didn't have rack phones. And she ain't mad at she But I'm just saying, though, what's you're rapping? Folks? Question why you why you're wrapping it? If you got rapped a matter of fact, are your wrapper? Who are you? Are you? Are you a serial killer running from the NBI? Who the funk are you? I mean, no disrespect, but you got you got more streams than me, right, and I've never heard of you before. You've got more streams in me, No problem. It's it's an equal opportunity, right,
no problem. I don't want to say that. Let me stop. You gotta fix point. N you got to you gotta finish the point. So one of these young brothers that I've never heard of before, I've got plenty of spins and streams. Out of a sudden it is murdered in the streets. The murder in the streets. This is about wrap you feel, I'm saying, well, why is it going to this? Why is it? Why is it going to that? You kind of feel what I'm saying, I mean, this is this is this is hip hop. This is not
drill music down this way. You heard the drill music, right, you had the drill music. So what I'm saying, though, what you put out there is what you get. Let's still that shot man, this more than look, let's see what so so, don't make hip hop for west Haven or West Haven for the ship that you out here doing in these streets. Man, you know what I'm saying, because there's people trying to survive with this music. I mean people people survived with keep with this music, bro,
I mean they family get this music. That that makes sense. Man, I'm just trying to say. Now, it's just like it's just like revers coming into game, and then the game two or three years and they are already get shot and killed. How I would not wrap? Are you're gonna are you're gonna say? Is it dangerous being a wrapper? Right? Or is it dangerous going in the studio and talk and put in violence in your music? And Carol's once said a long time ago, like he said, watch what
you say because you're attractive so and so. So if you're trying to tell me I'm supposed to do this and and somebody to tell me about all this, don't dealer wrap, don't deal a wrap. And I'm saying, yeah, when I'm watching Moe of Us get shot and everything, I don't care how to do it your wrap getting shot at you. So but if you're gonna make it
cool because you put money on it. But at the same time looking like man folk get shots saying like everybody keep talking about the gun play, the gun play, find them a lot quick enough because of the end of there, see the end of it. That's fed up all the clashes a little bit faster because in not times you'll know it wasn't no internet with half a year, couple of weeks, a couple of months to see each other,
you're calm. But now you gotta look at you got if you're talking their gap every time you go in it's internet people get every time at go everyway action right, so it's like right now you gotta understand and take respons to to the same responsibility we took in the nighties when everybody were doing it. Is this what you
want with you with your career? Do you want gangs and ship because then we got playing in situations and plenty in star Then it died if I went the not only your career, but after this, after they showed you when somebody's got there or whatever, they showed their family they got three and four kids. Bro, You know what I'm saying, it's like, man, why why put your Why put your family in that situation where they got to worry about dads worry about that. But like I said,
it's a different time now, it's a different time. The stakes are high right now. You gotta have views, you know what I'm saying. You gotta have You gotta have the most views in anybody. You got to have the most followers in anybody. You got to have more streams than anybody. So the stakes are high right now. And it's like, I mean it conditions that the youth are end right now. I mean, it could be kind of
crazy right now. I mean, some of these people growing up without fathers in the home, you know what I'm saying, So I can understand what they're going through the streets. Might be that it's always been the case for a lot of people, but not always. I'm just saying it's been the case. And that's what I want to go back to a statement I meant before, like who benefits up to disconnect of the younger cats and the older cats,
because we talked about this often on here. I feel like I feel like the ogs at one point at one point, but even not even just the regularly. I feel like at one point the o G s themselves decided, like people we're gonna become quote unquote O G decided, I don't want that responsiblitymore. We're making money now and this music industry make and some people decided not to take that responsibility. Moore, it felt like that, you know,
of course, felt like there was a disconnect. That's where the money comes in there when you started doing all the six and eight million dollars. But yeah, the money is ultimately it's send some money three sixty, but don't worry about it. We're going three sixty. But you know we're gonna make sure your show a hundred and fifty, you know, two hundred. So then you look at it artist like, okay, we'll shoot if I got to get them head. But I'm still making more than every person
who've got to do a show in the club. I'm still gonna show up in the ring. I'm still gonna get that treaty. And once you get they know that once they get an artist on that they don't want it. That's one thing that people are already know. You we're I do these I do these documentaries when I travel, right, it's different countries and a link with hip hop heads and consistently and I've been doing I went to Cuba, Haiti, Vietnam, Peru, Colombia,
South Africa is the next one. I'm about to finish, and consistently in every country, someone at some point, some artists always said, y'all don't do hip hop anymore. Yeah, And I just feel like, you know what I'm saying, Like it's no, no, no, no. Generally the United is what is the definition of hippop? I mean, I think that each individual could define that for themselves, but hipop it's just like this the definition of hip hop. It's
the same as a definition for country. We're saying. It's a definition for jazz, the same as a definition of course, because regardless, it's their life, whether they want to portrayed as somebody else or whether they want to be themselves, just their life. Do you feel what I'm saying? So just like a country song when you got real white boys talking about real ship, but how they white up done them wrong and how this and that. I mean, that's just real ship right there? You know what I'm saying.
Then you're going to blues on how the way they're feeling, whether it's whether it's perpetual wating some ship that they dreamed about her. I want to do. You see what I'm saying. It's still a story that they're telling. You see what I'm saying. So that's that's what hip hop is. It's the story that the nigga is telling. Somebody else
is making money off it. With you, You're not the only It always felt to me personally that it always felt personally for me making move one of your story, that that it was more than just the music of hip hop, because we all grew up and we was we heard when we was kidding this disc there's rock, there's this, and I'm sure if there's culture to all that music. But it was the first time I really sensed a culture, to an entire embodied culture was with
hip hop. Okay, and that's what to me made a difference. But that's spoken you though, Yeah, I mean, I don't you can't come to my house. It's like, cool, let me see your goddamn mom, your record collection. You don't even see no damn Conway, Twitter, No goddamn mom, whatever got there? You see Contway Twitter? Man, that's just to be a commercial. You know, I'm trying to say, I'm tea in the house. I'm just saying, though, that's not that I got them ribbertoire. But I can understand where
they're coming from. I can understand what Countway Twitter coming from. Damn. I can understand what got Damn dot A Park coming from. She contracted, I mean, Kenny Rogers. Who else? Categories are actually communities that you live in, of course, bro team, But all I'm saying is, if it wasn't a German and you called the country hip hop, would there's just be some white boys in it more than some black boys in it? You feel me? So? Like I said this,
don't it got clarified? Well, when when you talk about country, what's the percentage of what's the percent of country? So you know where we at with So it's like I spoke to me from some music like them, the real ones, when they when they tell their story, they call y'all country, Like everybody didn't call the South country. We didn't know y'all called yourself country, true, true, y'all called yourself. I
gotta be the East Coast. That's the latter university you see university from New York, Chicago, California, everywhere in Florida right there in the bright man, Yes, because no, but what but what? But with all due respect, y'all called yourself country. That's crowd to be country, right yeah? Yeah, embraceing. Yeah that we slipped, Yeah we splipped the the context of it. Yeah yeah, the slack ones that cheer backself. Let's go. We kind of pickna byself ship down down.
I'm drinking. You're gonna be drinking, drink drinking, and what will owns you to go back? Man? We gott sat last couple of day. Motherfucking I'm also happy y'all on this mother Hey man, when you said what you're doing this ship for the legend? Bro? Man, you are you? You put that platform out there, bro, that's it man. And let me just tell you something. Bro. I know you've got a new album about Bible kit, bask something else, but I want to be clear, this is your platform.
I need created this me and if we did not can wait this for us. We created this for us, bro, And I don't give an if you want to promote you open the ice cream shot, I don't give an Do you want to promote that you like Turquoise Lasder in your house, real talk talk. I got really mad man, Okay, South Saying, So first record I put out, It's called South Saying, So that passing Shore, Wicked, Cantan win Ball, Prustion on the hardwa bread but little Hardware, Freddish Snows
and my sis for my dam Philippa Williams. Man's free classic down and see the old video, that big water video, you know, man. So it's free and hopefully I'll can connect with him and but you know we're falling. But love on that mother. But I dropped called then the King and they had made it hard, started something back. I got a connection on that thing too. Whe people love on that bright and I got another reganiztion dropped is called beat right. It's called the hoops that I
want to live right. I'm gonna do right. I want to be right in the eyes of the Lord. You know what I'm saying. And with that being said, I let people know I s I'm connected to my spirituality. Why right now through all we're going with all the Padnic and all of that, Steve connect to now, I'm step like Steve showing by my foundation, mom, not not
straight away from Bad Myself game. You know what I'm saying this, And I'm just saying all this because you give us this opportunity talk about something that we're doing right now. Give it, y'all. Y'all, y'all gave'll stood opportunate. Let me tell you something it was, but y'all, we wouldn't be here. This thing is, man, we are putting it hip hop's first, hip hop's first. What fun? What
it is? And let me just tell you something in case you don't know what goodie mob means toward New Yorker to a young Miami kid that was born in l A. So he was just between me and him. We got three coats like like this. Just be clear and guess what this is? What we do this. Let me tell you something. I'm gonna pull my side. I might pull you another show too. Don't know. I'm watching you. You have quiet shot. I was getting the hand of y'all man about him. I love his brother because it
was the fans. He's an awesome one. Let me tell you, I want to be clear with the fans because I just want to be clear and I want you to beat for sure Purple Rain with this Purple me we got purple braking, purple ate ship. It's so swamp prop go to the show this. We need to let me shoot this good and oh I love bro ready to go, Damn.
I want y'all to know, not to get to how much goody mom Damn Legends and I don't even I'll put New York, but spend that time here for about that because it doesn't matter who where, where are we from, don't matter super leg We love, we love y'all. I gotta this this, I mean, this is, this is what, this is what mcs want. BRO mean, just that acknowledgement that a motherfucker tried. I feel I'm saying tried man
with everything and it's sucking hard. And then man makes some ship that relate to people, because that's all we're really doing it. It's just really relating people. Okay, come on, you didn't try to start it got you trying to see what I every time I haven't seen my folk and success. You didn't try, you succeeds to you be monest You gotta let us, don't you big you up? That's you know that. I'm gonna lie to y'all, bro, we need to hear that we were scared, but we
was like, how cast did go? And I was like, what the fuck? Every pocket was scared? You know what it was. I just kept to y'all self and y'all did with just the fun mhm and we respected. So don't ever think I don't ever think that, Like I mean, it's there was parts of it. That's like if I go to Atlanta right now, this parts of Atlanta that play the Florida, but I can't say that's Atlanta. That was a part of that. Actually, you know what I mean.
And we didn't know who the funds who. But I want to tell y'all face to face, man, man, love it bro. If y'all don't know what goody mom means to fu New York God bless New York York, but not just New York to the world to hip hop, were canning the culture hitting the move without good at damn what it is. I ain't one time I ain't read coach is getting to move without In case you, I don't know that. In the case you, I don't
know that, I want to tell you. Look at me facing Bason, and it wasn't about the South, It wasn't about the East. Coast of One of it was about legends. Motherfucker's stepped on to the plate. Motherfucker's did records that we couldn't even understand, but we knew it was bigger
than hip hop. Like how you saying I forget which one of y'all said, it's been a hip hop Yeah, but for some of us in the South, and it wasn't about the South because what y'all did, maybe it gave us all problem, but hold on, we still gotta it's not the South because we still got a ghetto. Boys had already been absolutely absolutely I already been established, Goddamn Blue News, absolute records. We're talking about at Atlanta.
We're talking about Atlanta, Georgia. You feel what I'm saying cause it was people came out before that didn't have that chance that the face gave us. If it wasn't for the face giving us that global fucking trapped the global look you nigga to men people wouldn't know on us either, were like like Kelo got their mojos, Oh Boys, Sammy Sam Sketto Marfield success and the fair Damn it's de Rock. All of them was out there. Do you feel what I'm saying, we just just rahein Madrim. It's
just it's just so happened. We had that chance the funk we got them to face and that liaison was organized nors because the face, come talk to us. I can't talk, can't talk to us. You're not from shock West an Lana, can't talk to us. Organized nors can talk to us. Organized nor said, this is what we got in face. What you think we're gonna roll with it. We're gonna roll with that. We're fucking with it. We were yeah, yeah, let me have one New York moment.
We all of this was all together in the same preschool, like everybody kind of sort of kind of sort of but like I said, you got Zone one. You got zone too, you got Zone three, Zone four, five, six, We got zones like you got burrows. You see what I'm saying. The wards So I mean, it wasn't nothing my lasts of a vil. It's this niggas just stayed on the side of time because for a minute, I'm from from northwest Atlanta. I didn't know ship about Southwest Alina.
I didn't know ship about the Kata Georgia. I ain't no ship about lockdown or none of that ship Green Bright Mar. I don't know about none of that ship. You feel what I'm saying. So I'm just saying, though it takes a while for that ship to h to get to where it is right now. So it's I only born to I'm born and raised in motherfucking Northwest and Atlanta, Georgia. That's where I'm born and raised. Everybody
be born in East Point, but he still Atlanta. He's on the Southwest Atlanta, south southwest Atlanta, East Point Inlanta, Atlanta. We're not from We're not Cottage. We're not from Cottage Park. Understand what y'all mean. When you see contain college Parks, that's still that's still Atlanta. But that's South Filanda. That's that's the real South Alta to chain from Cottage Paul. That's still Inlanda. You're right, that's Alta. Yeah, Cottage Paul,
Cottage Paul Amigos. They from north They from North Atlanta, then from north like up North Alanta, further north right car You see what I'm saying. We're from from Yeah, from the lab ship. You from what it's called Bankhead, Bankhead shout. It was a baker, Yeah, no bank, so banking banks up on bank banks, bankhead, next bank. We covered that's there. No Westerner right now, I mean, baby, let's do let's go. Yeah, this is some land this Charlie.
What was the nie wee? Y'all remember your first your Miami studio one eight third was a back yeah, yeah, back something like yeah you can see everyone poke bang shot and I got pictures from it. We were trying to look from you look at what hello? The one the first show it happy if you get the packet, that had to be like a second show. Yeah, yeah, that one. The first It was like ninety one, like ninety yeah. He just got back from the army and he was in Georgia, the South and I got please
let me see it. That was that time. But I love my hand let it ment of South and break stuff so hard man, since we man, we got shot everybody my trick talking about Younger than Restless, Gucci and Gucci crew shot if she shot j C. Pois what y'all know about LaJuan? Come on a cornette back Alando, Yeah, yeah yeah, your last converta bore you a guist. So that's that's a tap. That moment A right because all right, goodie, Marvis hit in Atlanta, Atlanta. Now you understand that Atlanta.
You can be a hit just in Atlanta. But where is the next market that happens for goodie? Where's the next market? Number one? Mark man for men. I'm gonna say, Charlotte, God take Charlotte, Charlotte and London. Pol Let me let me get the contact track. What we're going from talking about, talking about after after after that. The first week he comes out this, I don't know what it alb, I'm gonna take good I think good am, I think I'm
gonna taste that man in Europe and Europe. You have shot you want you want to Okay, I'm sell first off, see y'all, let's drink that call. Shout out, shout out the rubs with the say this is look over there saying hold on. You said you help a call. But I understand everybody already this is looks for real. SI. So I don't know what Let's do some of that ship yeah next to me. Every time I got shots, let's go, it's good a guys. Yet she was just like good I ain't gonna back as a kid man.
I was skid of Prince. I didn't want to scared him a little way. His music was just so goddamned aggressive. No, that ship was so horrifying to me. It was almost like some ship you could play in a scary movie with somebody getting slashed or some ship he took him on talking about that ship that I'm talking about that. Yeah, that sounds like you're talking about But I'm just saying, though hit music. I'm not here ship. I never bought
goddamn prison album before I was. Yeah, his music was just like I don't know about that the first song either, But I know what you're talking about. The first song he did that scared music. A song called anti Christian record. Never heard of it, brotein It's sick, man. See you see what I'm like, because you're talking about he was talking about that Minnesota um missing the murder children on that ship. Yeah, I'm sorry, man, If you see what
I'm talking about, it's a song called anti Christian. It's from he says about Yeah, and you was with Preston that night. Man, I was from Prince, not that, not that that. That's what was kids when when when I was a kid, it was cocaine involved. Now you don't don't forgot to hang with print. Oh yeah, I opened I opened up for print, said and Madison Square PRIs prison. That's incredible. Man here so scared of him. My friend
for how was drinking this? Told me purple rain because he understood that I have good emb So I got some more shot college. Yeah, we got shot glasses. What's up shot? So I remember for us said that's a sick drink. Remember he said, at least I honored him on that. Thank you for that. Yeah, he actually said we were we were shooting down all night. But I just want to honor him. Say that shop for day? Yeah? Wait, what nothing you get all that? You better not blame?
Don't keep that ship. Okay, he shot, Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's see what restaurant you get? Parade? Can't you gotta get snipping or shooting? So what is it? Is it it? I mean? Is it? Bob? Tequila? In it with a flower? That makes it? So? It? Tequila? Tequila? Tequila bas with what name? I don't taste You don't taste tequila at all. Let's gill are you good? It's swan, It's a swall. That's it's good. Drinking. The grand mother turning to come out. I don't care. We'll look at
keep it with your turn kind of woe. You don't turn those ship this one little tart. That's how we're trying to came about a little tardy for the party. For me, I'm gonna drink back a little bit. Sneak up on you staking up on. I don't give a dam about sneaking. She got it when you were on to like it's good. I like it. That's the kid. You can't drink the kid like that kh the same, Yeah, it's good. That's what would I like that? Spot ship man.
The opportunities endless for producers and wrappers right now to what they can do branding and everything. Right you brown, because if you go to rid the brown but the top that you got one over there, get one another one? Say something that's over eight hours. How you're gonna get into the eyes you got put up you dot away? But what I say, because I want to take one to the house, admit it to the house, because over
say spade, let me tell you something. I want to put my ship on on my own back because I want right everything that's rappers, you know, I just want to see what we're coming. I just want to We got a great cut that phone. You know what, if you out there you got your own liquor, fucking you won't put it on. I see what your passion in the team. I see where it is. I see where need I see what it is. I see it. I see someone this week were fig we need to have our own alcohol, and yes we all need to what
I mean here? Yeah, just coming down. I don't have my own. It's good he owns. Yeah, what's it to be? I would to be. We gotta promote friends, we got maybe we gotta time. Come on, let's talking about again for the tracks. Didn't dying until? Man, we take that a hey, man, have your wife wish when you do it? The man Steve's like, that's like my better. You got CBD do that? Yes, I got some of this? Lord, you know you can. She said you got some of this right here? This the CD is the knock you
down and the CBD sleep. When you want to get ready to go to sleep, you take this and you put this up under your toe. Vote you do this like like that. Let me show you this man, do that's how much you put in there Bro, you put that under your tongue and knock you out and got CD. But it's like it's like, we gotta CBD coming, you know what I mean. Gil Good has been doing it. You know what I mean. I'm with three seeds. You know, we got we got uh, we got we gotta deal
with Frado and Sticky. You know what I mean. We're doing That's that Prince is Black, you know what I mean? And uh, get good. We're gonna drop the tear see line at the top of the year. We're gonna drop a beauty line. You know what I mean. I mean, we're gonna have We're gonna have a website up. You can always go just to my page and get in and find the incident about fifteen spots all over Atlanta, you know what I mean. We opened a new store
in Columbus, Georgia. We're gonna have a mega store in downtown in Lina soon, and we just want to just keep doing it. My my, My whole goal of it is just take us into black pharmaceutical. I want to be a pharma suitic coming in at the end of the day, you know what I mean. So it's like with me, I got into this only because my father, you know what I mean, he he had cancer and this is the first time that I really really got into this. So I met this guy named Dr Hodges
and he started treating my father with cannabis. So that's when I got into the r SO or and everything. It was like I came back here, my father coming. His name is Dr Hodges's Hodges. He's from Atlanta. He's the first person to introduce me, first person that took me to the capital, put me into put me in front of the Georgia Commission of Cannabis. You don't mean to tell my actual, uh my my testimony about what I've seen it actually do. And it's like everybody died
on my father's floor. But at the same time, when he took that cannabis, he lived for another two weeks. So I know if people was able to get CBD and cannabis in their systems, that they will probably live a lot longer because the scent there is drugs is really what's been killing us. That strips your body about all the nutrients, you know, taking CBD and everything else,
it energy, It helps your immune system. So the more that we know about treating ourself and and and doing things with this sort, the longer we're gonna live, because the more that we depend on people to treat us and we don't understand what we're taking, we're gonna continue to die. So that's why I got into the CBD business to help people. Ah. And then just so everybody here is the name of the brand is complaining. The name of the brand is give Good. Is you know
what I mean? We got we got seven We got about five or six sticks that you get this. We got a thousand kindeminoids and every stick, you know what I mean. So I got different flavors flat Beard called Little Magic, see the Star Bear, Georgia, Pete Sunday Drive, you know what I mean. So I got a few sticks I got. You know, this is actual face cream like I used to do have before we got the idea. Like I was working in the warehouse and I was
going to high school. So when players ball got on the actual radio, all I had to do is take my ball, you know, and I would have been right went too far? Yeah, man, I already reached shampoo man. They called the shampool and they help old. That was my special and the finger way come over, you know the finger way with the loster tail man, stop playing this is man. We sold drugs. We were rotting the cooling.
We were with Joe Cooling, rotting the old man. That was that was we thought that was beautiful in the level that with a silk shirt with a snake skin, with some snake skin a man, you were real, man, switch the pants out with Jordash and cut. Realize y'all have a conda man, because y'all, y'all, y'all, yr purdis black. Y'all the definition of black PRIs. I mean, let me tell you something, bro. That's that's that's real. It's real.
It's real because doing when we was coming up, we actually seen ab dud to the Butcher in my neighborhood. We actually seen these abdul To the Butcher man trying to seven teen wrestling man Rick Flem. These people were walking through the streets. Man, y'all gotta remember seeing it and all that was created during our childhood. So our grandmother this used to take us to the wrestler. So when you saw getting crazy ASTs, that's why I got That's where we got our characters from. That's why we
love running rolls. We always knew that we could always be cool without kind of hearts because we loved us the roll We love their characters. We used to see rick Flett and getting on the plane. And when we first started getting on the plane going through Hotspital, we used to see rick Flet. That was like incredible to us come and see Rick Fleg getting on the depth. So that's where we got a lot of ours. Ricky Stein that j Ricky never came back d D T
a food manual trying. I mean, I'm recolored there. I remember being glue to the television're watching this ship, Steve Rove got to take it out of the game. St Yeah, I've watch the wrestling this ship every year, watch that ship fight on who we are? I think everybody had toast the right brother. That's great and you know what it's great about. But like I said beginning the conversation, you your brothers are legends, and legends be on. That's
changed the face of music. Stood there just kept being who y'all are. In case y'all don't know that, it's my job, it's my duty, it's our ability to tell y'all that to your face. And I'm proud to tell you all that to your face, it was one of these. But I'm not actually you know what, I am talking as fans ship. The thing about it is to think about it. I could, I could be cool about it, but but I'm a fan. Don't know what I'm saying as a fan. I'm talking as a fan and he's
talking as a fan. That's when it's different. We don't give a about our platform. Were don't give this motherfucker. We were through the same ship tomorrow, me and him, but we don't care what hit met me. We don't care. That's why I keep saying molitated crazy because that was our first show. It did not nobody knew about it. Who cared about it about it show drinking chaps. And the reason why is because we knew we were right.
We knew that giving respect to people like you guys means the world to people who love hip Hop's this the case and I'm gonna keep it. It's in case you guys don't know a goodie mobs so much. Put a brick on that foundation of hip hop. When you're talking about building it, it might have five bricks there. You will all cash, y'all by yourself, y'all, the the tendon bricks that matters and hip hop to build the foundation. And I'm proud to look at y'all on y'all face
and tell you I'm proud of that. I'm proud what y'all contributed to hip hop. It will never be underlooked, not on this show. We're happy to have you, and we're happy to continue to meet you all. What I'm talking about. That's how I was about to say, Man like you, No, let me finished. You got let Steve he got it back down to this bottom. I love because we love y'all. Bro, you need you need to you know. I'm sorry, see though, you know why you
need to know. Because the thing is our coaches dickheads sometimes, and what I mean by we dickheads compete with each other so much that we don't salute each other. So I wanted to change that narrative. I want to change that look. I wanted to change the production, and I wanted to say that if a person has done the work that you guys have done, I want to look at you in your face and say, motherfuck, I'm proud of you. I love you. I think I take you thing from me as a man. As a man is
to take nothing from me. I could look at you about a madness, say, man, I respect with yall. Hello, what y'all done. I've tried to cocky. What you've got to step damn and and And I can look at y all because I'm man, say thank you, damn dank and that's beautiful. That's where hip hop should be. Should be that right, that's for me and this mother for the way he wanted that mother. People got back up. N y'all together, that's good, get back to the figures.
But let's go. Man, that's not smoke chance. Everything that they've spoken right now is that smoke chance with it. I don't want through three or two of them sucking with it as long like this. Like I said, man, hip hop, don't branstout this some mo shit. You know what I'm saying, because I'm gonna keep you one k people one came please. I'm in Southwest Atlanta Middle School, right, you know what I'm saying, Curtis blow come to my
better school. Curtis blow Wright. Hold on now I'm hearing over the intercom my principals say, I got a surprise for y'all were like, what what I hear with nigga beat boxing over the motherfucking intercome. It's a buffing from the guddamn Fat Boys. This is in This is not eighties six, this is um eighties. This is eighty four, eighty four, eighty five. Who deny is in my motherfucking school. But these are different days that this came at the
same time. It came at the same time. I didn't know, Yes, man, we didn't. We didn't. We didn't know, man, we didn't. I didn't know what the fun this was. I had never heard of I think the fresh Fest was. I've never heard. I had never heard of Curtis blow All got there. Well, I heard of Houdini. But they came to my school and I heard the Fat Boys. I knew who they was. That's what I'm saying that it was then introduced to the South. At that time, I
didn't know what the promo run was. But later on we ended up doing the same ship going to people schools, doing the same ship going in to my gymnasiums full of people. Town we walk in, I'm talking about they're running running for this guy, running for that guy, running for this guy, me, what do we do? What we did? We just talking about some ship from the south of what he was doing. That's all we did. All we did.
And then for you to come in and say, man, to reiterate that ship like you guys are legend that man and then you said you came after us. Man to me, it takes it takes. It takes a humble person to do that type of ship. I see it. You know, this is this is this is this is this. This guy noticed guy for damn the twenty two years, and he loved the South. He from the South, and he feels with your pain. He feels that. He was like, y'all can't do it. But then he feels me because
I'm saying I want that guy. You can't judge me from what other people father, because I was that guy. Fun. But you know, it was never y'all. It was most of the terms. It was the industry. People just got to confuse. It was never the artist because we always had conversations. It was always in the buildings and it was always the condescended exactly didn't know us and hadn't been nine cities. We were selling more records than than what you're putting out, but you kind of like little
boy in us. But we understanding that. Bro, We've been in colosseums already and you're not even understanding. So understanding, we've been fighting for our for our value, for our value. That's that's where most of our frustration comes from. You gotta understand the things that we're going. Man. When I first heard the deaf jail artists were getting paid to do their own videos, I was like, what if they do that? Wa? Way did you do that? Y'all getting
fittied downards had to come to your videos. A man didn't know that to ingland corrupt came and setting the dungeon and she's like, ship, we get paid to the videos? End up? Hi? Hi, wait a minute, never heard that? He said. Jesus understand when people started getting actually shooting, we was already make in our clothes and and doing our own custom things, and we never got them deals. We was already doing echo ads what you have, but
we still couldn't get them deals. I did, Yeah, you did, allergy, allergy, Let's get a lot of money. Let's talk about this money that was that was hooked up by food, the one that owned it. Come on Man, Cold Train, cold dude, he was. He was killing. Ain't got his own thing right, he was to me, he don't get the credit he deserved. No, he's a great cold t he's He was the first person to take me to go buy some thousand dollar jeans. That was cold. He was the first one to take
me to take me. That was the first person to say, no, Gilt, we're going to Brooklyn because we're going to the to the You can't even get these frames on the street, like we're going to the We're not going on eighth no more. We're going over here in Brooklyn to a warehouse. You know what I mean. He was the first person to show me its levels and this ship, you know what I mean when it comes to fashion, Cold Train,
you know what I mean. At the same time running echo and showing and and showing me what fashion meant to just you know, puff them had actual you know lines. It was things that we were That's the reason I think we went so hard on the stage because we wanted people to see that we was multifaceted. I mean, the first time I saw ce local farming in New York, knows Barkley. His outfit was so incredible at this point one boy yet the old Gold. We didn't know what
was gonna about that. Man, I'm just off the change from tron you or not. It's he's wild about that ship you think most but serious ship about CLO. I can really say, just from being even being in the group and being as close as I am to him a phone call away, I was like, damn, it's that sip Is that si? Wh Yeah, I'm like that. It's like, I don't know, man, like it's that I'm not sure that sure. It really been a little hacking up, right. I didn't know we got them calm or what the
funk we're going on? But I was like, is that my partner? I couldn't really tell. I don't know. That was even when he did on the Crazy I watched the video and noticed, man, just like I know the back of my hand, and I swear. I was like, damn, listen, I see, let's see ship is that see? But they didn't think that was a real song when the first came.
It's just crazy, yeah, because it came with around the Channel where like Moby was having his run, so you know the record because he was he was doing it was like mash ups or whatever and taking the old soul samples. And you know that came out through Atlantic. Um, not crazy came out independent. They didn't that upstream to Atlantic,
up streaming to Atlanta, get through a subsidiary downtown. The reason what I'm saying because I used to do marketing promotions for Atlantic, and I remember walking into a room one time I went to New York and they had a board and they had different records and they had creaty who all off and I told them, I said, this record is a crazy need to bump it up overhead. They still don't, you know, they didn't. They didn't, Um, but no, what the fun we're talking about? Crazy? He
was saying. I thought he was a virgin at one point with Janity that no, um, I was. I went to priority for a short while after Ariston, but then I just stayed alone. I going from trap to trap. So I'm right, I already know he said crazy movie. We were talking about something, alright, So they thought that it was you. Yeah, sounds so smooth, yea true little girl. All right, So keep going list about night, all right? So that Danger Mouse shout out to Danger Mouse man
with my my my better half and h and Arles Barkley. Um, he had just had a success with a Mixtepe called the Great Album when he didn't match up with J and the People was White album and Jay Who jay z Who the Black Black Album and white albums, so it was the Great, the Great album. So he blew
up the internet with that ship. And then we went in the studio and then we just you know, we just had like uh um, like maybe like a few days and just trying to get some ship down because like I want to work with him, you know, first verse or whatever. So that's how the ship. That's how that ship came about. But um, the record with number one because it was digital dinalogues back then, so it's the first record in history to go to number one
by by by digital download alone. And I'm saying so, yeah, she was crazy and she was very h coming. This is a frameier. He liked this one. I got that one to the a P. That's nice minus the green. I'm hard to you, but I love you. Take that bad us the ground man. Stop, Let's stay with your ship watching sisters. They're calling, bro, now what you got You got the sky to one too? And I watched the show. I watched your shoulders off to one because I don't watch this that I don't have that one.
That's one that was like, it's one, guys, don't I got to green. It's it's green and here you got to see you and like I got that one. Yeah, you got no one, you got one. You got likes at my personal and I'm going with you. See we get a lot of fun. Is I'm so proud that your guys came back together. So what happens this this, this this transition happens you guys all separate, everyone wants to do their own solo ship. What happens? What was that moment where like, yo, let's get let's get back
together as a as an arm. What was that more? I feel like it was in Atlanta somewhere who tasted it was definitely Atlanta. Man. It came from some really unfortunate um but probably the best reason and the best way that we were able to do it, and that was that was cool. Joe getting hurt in the car accident, you know what I mean? So that brought that brought us all back together. I apologize, but that moment, what you guys are seeing Timz reporting on this or you
guys are hearing your friends. Director tell you I need the other stones. When my sister in law called me a hundred times, that man wife called me, so I was sleep like delirious, tie sleeping that phone capt ringing. I was like, man, I am not answering it, and they kept ringing. I said, I'm not answering. They kept ringing. I said, I'm not answering. Fast said, damn, man, would who is this? I look at the phone, answer the phone. Man. I went ballistic. Man, I jumped. I just jumped up
through on anything, went straight to the hospital. Wow, I'm on the way. You know what I'm saying. So that just let me know, Like sometimes, man said, asked the damn phone. You don't never know what's going on over the end. You know what I'm saying, And I didn't when I'm glad, you know, my sister just kept trying because she knew how much I love my brother. You know what I'm saying. And he was trying to get me, trying to get me, trying to get me, trying to
give me goat men out. It was over with. I was on the way immediately, and that was just the time and a moment, a good amoun time and where we all knew to come in man and be supportive. And how we could you know what I'm saying, how we could be a monitory being, a little being time, being help whenever we could offer my brother to come for help, to come for him in that time, you know what I'm saying. That's where we're there for. That's why we're brothers, you know. Oh yeah, I definitely wasn't
that bigger than that. You know, it was probably just to walk in and see each other so so on the money. You don't saying like everybody was there early, don't you hear me? Right? Man? But are you about to be fund Yeah, damn it was early. It was on time. They brother hearing me right there round. I think that's might have been one of the one of the maybe the only thing we could smile at the time, that to see each other when we hadn't really talked.
I'm saying, you've been together a moment. Yeah, family, it's a movie. Ship's family. Bro. I remember waking up saying and shouting right down the side of the bed waking up. I was like, damn exactly exactly if he wants to talk, you don't have to right exactly what happened it ship, don't drink and dry, m you feel me. But I made that trip several times before, several times, but it was it was this time for me to goddamn mom too,
goddamn realize what the fuss is going on. So I've seen all that ship slow motion, all that ship and they were talking about said having his slow motion. Yeah, yeah, I don't even know. I think it's but not that why I think it's I don't even want to say it, man. But and then before your heir died, bro, that ship going slow motion. But it's supposed it was supposed to happen to me at that time to shape me. They got them to see where the fund was going on.
Really at the end of the day, you know what I'm saying. But um, it was definitely goddamn mom, and I'm waking it for me. What's you know, Nigga still gonna do what they do at the end of the thing. They stick gonna do what they do. But I'm just thankful, man, for my family and for the mob. And I can remember, Man, I'm laying in my bed I remember laying in my bed a bed dude coming by. Can I get an autography? I'm in my bed. They get on the drip, I'm on bag drip all I could do it like, oh man,
God damn, Like I can't do it. But like I said, things happen for a reason though, because the direct ship that happened to a motherfucker's because then, well, I need to bring it to you harder. I need to bring it to you harder because I need to shake you up a little bit more than somebody else, because that how do you think? You're kind of hard a little bit? So I need to shake you up a little bit. I need to shake you up a little bit. And I'm thankful for it. I'm thankful for the chest tise. Man,
you feel me. Because ship, If if your mom and dad don't don't test tise you about some ship you're not doing right, You're gonna keep doing the wrong ship and then your ads gonna be looking at dirt. Said from the box. M h sad but true. You know what I'm saying. But you know what I'm saying. You got to you got to one ship like that happened to you. Man, you've got to ponder things like, man, what did what did I do? But why not you? Nick? Why not you? Why not you? Why not your nigger?
Let's see how you handle this situation. So that's what it's all about, not with just me or anybody. It's about how you handle the situation. How happy is together? As good as right? How happy? Oh man, it's man, there's so much luck to me with my when I
can't fold that ship? Feel like resident count You ever heard of resident comp don't come into the resident campuge when they take take you from your house and they put you somewhere with some other young cats your same age, and you live with them and you deal with them. You know what I'm saying. You wake up every day, you see a very day. How am I gonna deal with these guys? Let's got that. Let's make it happen. So we gotta calm and go, all four of us
gotta calm and go. We gotta common enemy at the end of the day, and it's time. Time is our enemy, you feel me, So that's what we got them. That's what we're fighting. Ain't no, ain't no particular person that we're fighting. It's fucking time that we're fighting right now, who's victorious over time? Nobody? Nobody right time wins all victims of course. So at the end of the day, I man, that's that's white. That's not great, that's white. Ray.
I don't know where we're going with this. We're gonna, we're going what it is. It's all about growth at the end of the day, all about growth. I can't tell you I'm in the strip club everyday because I'm not. So it's not growth. If I'm telling you a manic strip club and I'm not, that's not growth. This is growth. Telling you about a survival kid, this is fucking growth. Is growth? Yes, yes, yes, on the goddamn later tip. Yes, only your master's growth. Now, only your master's growth. That's
what it's all about. Right now. You gotta leave something to your family. You can't give it all to him, thank you, it all to him and the end of the day, you can't give it all to him. So what what retirement does a rapper have in hip hop agistry? He knows pub I know the comming. Never gave it to them. M you can't have a piece of before man, but never gave it to you can have that administrated right, and then where they go. But the end of the day, you see a lot of you see a lot of
people apply No, I don't think so. He never he had never been disrespectful like that. He's always been a big brotherspressment. Yeah, but infinite enough money. If there's not enough, how much? How much is your publishing worth? Now? We started ninety four right now? Hey, for we out of high school, this is my fucking life. Or ninety four to twenty? How much is my ship work to you? And you ain't got enough? Nigger. We're not him in particular, but you don't got enough. But that's just let me
be dead by advocate, right, please do so. A lot of times people say, you know, I'll give you a publishing all right, but I call it too old. He's too old. You don't know what he's too old. But if you knew that it's too old with water, you would say no to that. Is that it's something that we felt tricked about. I'm gonna say the way the world going right now, that's a great question. The world, world, world right now? Myself? The way world is right now?
Where the world is going right now? I've seen a lot of people, um side, how the prints here with a lot of ship for a lot of motherfucker's even my money now, give it to me, give it to them. So it's like the times we're living there right now. We don't know what the fund's gonna go on. Make sure we don't know. We don't know China gonna do is gonna be relevant at some point, We don't know what's gonna have. We don't know Rust's gonna come in this bitch and drop a bomb. And if we don't
even know, we're still making music. But one thing we should know is that the American dream is being able to afford to say no, yeah, I'm exactly exactly. But like I said, man one all day, that's what I want to drop and didn't. Then they'll stick out of their motherfucker's life is different, right, like saying it's different? Right? Well, how about this? It seems to be different, she seems
to be different. That ain't be different about that? It's open out there, LANs corrupt, God damn it, I don't look like lord man, it's ship corrupt, but really rank money what monte? But what what? What? Corrupts? Quicker and easier Is it money? Is it starvation? M hmmmm. I lean to money a little bit because they're they're gonna get money and won't go buy nothing to eat. But he gonna buy him something to drink before he buy him some da. That's what I mean. We've got different
respect to come. We're from the side, we're from Atlanta. We've got different perspective to what other people think about period. So that's why when you say we were scared of y'all, well, you didn't know what the funk we was gonna say. You know we're gonna talk about slavery, or you didn't know what the funk we was gonna talk about. You see what I'm saying. But you know, the same people for different places. Of course, at the end of the day,
they don't know what we're gonna be honest about. They know, we know, they just didn't know how honest men, we're gonna be. That's more scared, very seriously. You want said this for y'all? Yeah, cab oh sleep man, Now I got shot lap. She'd let me grab one more to molor man, they roll right, no what she got this little thing here? Yeah, that's still so let give you a glass to get burbour, tell ja you knocked out
set one already. Ship we got jay z man, we're killing this ship like mom, Buttermel got k we canby that's friends are gonna texto everything you see it. Prince gonna text you bait so she what's the what's the relationship with your for real? Man? I couldn't make the connection while the connections motherfucker's super funk. He brought them neggles in the game. M come boy whatever when that boy we're talking to that ship right there? Here was the way they speak like one of the best. Why
spilled out that tune? Done? You're smoking? I told you, let me love on you a little bit of my nigger of the conversation going wal what let me like this guy give it back to let me reciprocate the love somewhat mean you know what? You know what I don't Camel, I tell you I never love for you as functual. I told you I want to talk about that body in the trunk. But what do a little term you got knows on that? Yeah, I think he's talking about some games and ship. What I'm talking about you?
You always interview with this guy Walter Smoke so solely respected. Yeah, wow, but I can't. I can't live this end of you ever turn over. It's it's a real can I can't really like Yo, every South dude, I ever. They was like, y'all everyone everyone here, it's head like, y'all, I want to they want to ask you question because you know, goody marviya mean something to the South and the only immedia is something to the South, y'all. All the South,
damn on, the real real hold on. So when you're saying all the South, are we talking about like ghetto boys of the South, my luke of the South, Because like I, like I said, I always got to get a O G s the credibility with that. You're part of that story. Yeah, I see, I mean I like to I'd like to hear detail over that because like I said before that it wasn't no goddamn Atlanta, It wouldn't.
It wasn't no Atlanta, Georgia, no Cottage Paul, those Swas, no East Point on Northwest Atlanta, no nothing, none of that ship. So when people say the South, when I hear the South, what I hear I hear ghetto boys. I hear goddamn, Luke, I hear U. G K, That's what I hear. But when we want to goddamn say good m are you just hear us? I want to hear Atlanta. You got not that, but I want to hear Atlanta, Georgia, because that was a flag that we motherfucking put up. Like at ninety four. We went through
the whole gauntlet, the whole gambit. We went through all that ship I'm talking about facing we faced, We faced goddamn discrimination from our own people coming out of the South, you know what I mean? So when so when we when when when people say that, not just you guys, you know what I mean? I just like that, Just like to say, goddamn, when the fucking Atlanta Georgia, because that's one spot to what everybody was being influenced New York. My back got there, got the mind, and everybody came
through there. You know what I'm saying, mean everybody. But if we're don'na got there, we're gonna we're gonna funk with it. What's the freak happening? And that ship was awesome, honey, bitches, y'all figure I ain't that was that was out like that it was just a little bit oh yeah, yeah, what's that ship already to so many I can't evenly
count right now. I remember one time my hair protest in the club, well Andre Rison and me and Rising was like, man, let's see who we getting pull a check the fastest you look at figure popping kind of guy. You mane the field. I think it's been too late. Man. We had some of my fun and that that's all I gotta say, right never that man, but you know, he man. Freak Nick was nice freak. It was always like, let's just describe freak. Come on, get get breaking up
a good freaking Nick Freak. We never look Freakni was Magic City Monday doing Jeesy era on steroids in the street. The ship it started and goddamn um Johnny White Paul as a college fraternity, just a big peak Nick. It started just like that was going on. When it grew into what it became is like a big thing throughout hip hop and people rapping the bottom and all that
type of stuff. It grew into the four years, yeah yeah, and a couple of years because it went from there to like, I know, they did something at Columbia Park Columbia Park, which is off the tail or. So many people out there in Columbia Park. They ain't never seen nothing like that before. And the next year the whole city was just ravished. They shut the highway down, they pushed it about the Yeah, they shut the highway down.
It was crazy, man. The malls got shut down. They got rid at people stealing, doing everything they do Freetne was out of control, man. But that's how I started started with so fast stuff, so fraternity and sorority, like picnic parks in our neighborhood. You know. So she started the south side. Man, what's up? I'm watching y'all. I wanted so she's starting with your yes light with sister right. Yeah, that's a good description. Decam, I gotta wash my hands,
come on ship. It wouldn't believe. Want to know when And he just asked me, I want to go back. I want to go back to the early days of what's inspiring Goody Mob, Dungeon family, the whole sound like, what are the artists that are coming out before? Y'all? You keep you keep talking, like saying about Atlanta is going. I want to know what is the environment that's making y'all here cool J k R S one are being rock him publicandemy good men and mao my favorite um
Africabam Bottom. You know you know the plane of rock most definitely um. You know what I'm saying, what's some boys? Uh uh man, you're you're t fo sho D. I'm talking about success and effect. I'm talking about Keylad. I'm talking about right heining the dream. I'm telling about kids in rock. I tell about it with J with the Mixed Taste. I talk about DJ General with the mixed taste.
I'm talking about Charles Disco. You know. For the platform, I'm talking about sharing showcase for the platform to about seventh of one for the platform five five nine for the platform. Beat uh, mr ban, I tell about losing for the platform. You know what I'm for the platform, the wose for the platform. You know what I'm saying, fees for the platform, the care for the platform and the pl at walls or everywhere. Man that's gonna learning the game to grow and became powerful. You know what
I mean? With the clubs, me and something because people want to beat up outside. We were getting from the outside of the man. She was coming from me that she was coming from native tongue. I liked everybody from sucking um ex clan to fucking arrested the Villas, arrest of the Fettlements, kids and house. I was gonna say kicks in earlier King song like Kim Saba's poor Righteous Teachers and yeah when you say about hard to obtain ya, Yeah, you know l I group. You know a bunch of ships,
so slight. It's easier to be influenced when you have yet in identity. You know what I'm saying. What I mean, it's it's easier to be open. I mean, but we was just receptive. I mean, like to all all of those frequencies, you know what I mean. And you know they say, what invitation is the best form of flags, but flag, we said, but we want to step further.
I mean, like it'd be you know, you've got imitation, you got emulation, and then you've got embodiment and say you feel me, we're embodied and energy and the way that you receive something and I mean, like it's not necessarily way that it will filter filter. Yeah, what I'm saying like, so it's a fusion and it's a hybrid
of all these many different variables. And I mean, like I always use this example about even the technology was limited at a time where everybody was using either of the fucking nine O nine other fucking ain't oh eight. So you got sucking um tougher than level is basically a trap song from east from East coast just run them see and you know, man, can we see the mix man one to one two? And as a body people feel fulfilled this out you see and let's get hell.
That's rights, y'all. You know what I'm saying. You feel me, you don't talk, but then you can go all the way out to fucking um. See. I don't think you got some mix. A lot with sucking posse on Broadway was hard, but investcation and the anchor dance nothing. I see.
You can need something to around round on the fifty series times the ou applies by, but I need you get so you got damning a tough crew too for Philly to right right sothing go something you go to the to the west coast and this fucking Rodney you want Joe Coolie change in them. See you got you prop. Prop can't be told ship out. I'm trying to say it. It's that primal nature. It's that tribal drum. That's what brought us all together. And these kids that personifying the drum,
the native drump. That's all we're dealing with, you know what I'm saying. But we have done it before. They have been incarnations of it over time, you know what I mean. And those are the boundary lines that were imaginary and what I'm saying that but we all were. That was a sense of oneness in unison because the technology was limited, so everything even from the different regions. Then you just speak at the temple. Then you got
motherfucker supersonic. So you know that's that's sucking Miami bass and my Miami basis fucking African membathers and times, you know what i mean. Was the raunchy version of said what I'm saying, you know, um to the piper. Honest, it was just either way boo boo boo, rock the bells, that's drums. It's just ain't the way. So like that's been, It's just tempo is a variation I'm saying, you feel me between trap or hip hop or whatever you or what have you get what I'm saying, um or screw
that man, you feel everything is gauge and degrees. You know, I'm saying, like weather murders where you saying, I'm saying you feel me whether murder together? Yeah, it's true murder. Are you getting you know what I'm saying, like murder together. I'm just I've been talking about that, you know. I'm just talking about that universal paramat to that gauge. You know. I mean, like that's a temperature that we all show.
We'll see like you a week. It's it's all we all all together, man, my bad man, I don't know. I'm just driving with y'all right now, a lot of beautiful were fucking with good in love that look at you. Let me just say something. And we got five years, right, we're going on six years. Just sick, five years. We're
going on five years. And when I'm looking at your brothers together, I'm so happy, Like it's just it's it's a level of happiness that comes on me, comes upon I'm sure him wait even more than me because he loves the South and to see our brothers together, like do you do you guys? I understand how importantness is? Yeah, I do, I do. It's just recognizing each other, acknowledging each other, man right, love and respect him say he feel me? You really hear pour version of the Beatles.
You got it. It's just that's not a lot of very successful portent boots. You don't really make them like that. So right, So we've done We've done well. It's a lot of it's a lot of energy to manage, you know, man, And so we've done it successfully. Man for talking is now consistent? Yeah, no doubt, man, come on, man beautifully man like, because you know why, I gotta take the factor away that I was no wall and your brother's in degree. Yeah, so I can't what's it code like
act like discriminate, they can't. I gotta do that. And like I said, by erased me from y'all history, guys are legends and you guys, guys these things that in hip hop that if it wasn't for you guys hip hop with the boots and that's a way. And I want to tell y'all to your face because I say it behind your back, not behind your back like in the bad said, because this look just that's what this is.
Podcast is a possible. It is about like bigging people all doubt but y'all deserved for me to tell y'all me here is that without outcasts, hip hop on the movie with a certain way, without good amb hip hop, when the movie a certain way, I'm keep without organized noise hip hop with the move with a certain ways. So I want you to all no collectively that I don't know. I don't know what the funkyout was doing. And I don't mean get at this point. At this point,
I wanted to let y'all tell your own story. But that a whole a sash with you all together, It's like, it's crazy what we're gonna salute it. We're gonna support it, We're gonna bow down to it. Man, a little man. We see it for the for the for the sake of the occasion. I'm trying the mother sitting it for the sake of the occasion, trying to explain something that's completely intangible, trying to put it in the words for
the sake of the occasion. You know what I mean, You can't really explain it, you know what I mean? Like if you mean, you just really can't. Trying to give us some poetic justice, man, that's why we see here. I mean, like the gathering. I feel like we I mean, because how the fun want we've been saying that what you're saying, we got time? I want, I want, I want, I wanted understood. I don't want to debate it. I don't want. I'm sick of the misunderstanding. You just got
to know some of the really sneak of at the planet. Man, when it come, it only came to give, only came to give. I ain't gonna lie. I really can't even excellent else man, Man, appreciate, Yes, tell your money. Man, you're probtner, you're partner. The first minute your partner took me to his house, and I knew your partner was a kind of person that was just like him. You don't trust a lot of people. But I understand why he fought with you. And I want to say thank
you very much. Father. I want to say, y'all, thank y'all. Man, I got I forgot what the occasion was losing in Elliot at the time, and on apparently the soul trying towards there's that Hotel Nico, Hotel Nicole, you remember that. Yeah, But y'all, y'all, y'all was deep. Y'all came by the same hall as me. And now because y'all was talking about component, he was like, he came past and said, don't hurt nobody, shorty. It was deep. It was so deep, you know, I took it as a compliment. Man, listening.
That's how we're warring Bronson at the end of the day. I mean, it's our one, but next year it's Grammy time, right, right, But that's based off of what motherfucker's is talking about this ship, right, So let's see what the fund is really going on. Really, let's see what the fun is really going on. Man, maybe a little no Bill Peach ship. I mean, I mean, we worrying drugged into the Georgian Music Hall of Fame, right, you know what I'm saying.
Definitely we're in there with Jane Brown, oldest red things. What I mean, just just a couple of just a few people that came from Georgia, solf. It's a little bit, you know, it's that. It's that we think. So let's keep for the fans. The fans don't know, I mean, I know, but we got we got the home. The accident that happened with you, right, Let's let's talk about that Okay, uh, Ship, I really don't like talking about it,
but I talked to you about it. We feeling. I think I was dropping my first solo album, It's called A Man at the Dog. I had wax, had Wax red Wax. So that whole day, I think I was just I just I was just really politicking everybody. I was just really just celebrating. Really. I don't think I had went to the Blue Flame that night. Blue Flame that night. I think I might have had nice. I don't see my dad up in that motherfucker, like damn daddy,
this motherfucker. Yes, I don't really in the club because that was in the club. Man. So like I said, Man, I hadn't been I hadn't been a plenty spots all day, man, But I should have noticed something, what's going on that there? I shouldn't noticed something because I was I was really counter, really sloppy that day, because I can remember I was indicator fucking with nitty nitty beach Indicator fucking with nitty.
I funked around and just really just hit my head or some ship just really just it's really sloppy or whatever. But I was on the way home, man around man, a bad bust in my face, the air, bad bust in my face, windows, the glass busting in my face. Ship happened in the slow motion. I'm like, damn, I don't had to fucking wreck, you know, I love, I want to see. I don't want to. I want to sleep,
bro T want to sleep. So when I said on drink and dry, bro, I'm chatting you man that time I had made that trip plenny time, but it was time dad for the nigga to wake me up and shake me, like, nigga, what's up, Let's do this, let's do this? What up? So? Cause that's time now you tell me and I want to I want to have it confirmed from you and hit on drink tramps because
I heard another version of strike. I heard when you had the accident that your leg was caught in the fucking um that reiling a piece of you know, you remember, like it used to be like a metal strip of reeling that would sucking be uplining, And that's what I said.
So I heard that crash through the car and saying and your leg was caught between it, and heard as you came to and you were conscious or maybe just none from the shop saying, you feel me, but you actually in fear, thinking that the car would explode or something. You you tore yourself. This leg was pissed. That's that's I heard. That was told that you tore yourself. You know, I didn't know. I didn't. I didn't tag myself away.
I couldn't move in the car. I couldn't get out of the car, so I maybe I'm just stuck in this motherfucker. Can't get out of the car. So I look up, I said a white woman, so I've seen what happened. The ambulance is on the way. I was like, okay, cool. So I couldn't get out of the car. I never did look down and see what the fund was going on, but they told me the ship looked like it was in a meat ground. The rest of my ship was in the meat ground, so I never had a chance
to even look down. The seat was up, but I couldn't get out the car until the ambulance came and they got me out the ship. So it just felt like my you know how when your ship for I can't just sleep. That's how I felt. So I just thought my ship was broke. I didn't know, you know, what I'm saying coming from a club. So when you're coming in, you intoxicating, you don't feel a lot of ship at that time, you know what I mean. So I'm just thinking my ship is maybe broke. I can't
get my ship out in the car whatever. So I'm going in the hospital and they just tell me that, man, you gotta have your ship amuitated. I'm like, damn, A, you're serious. So she just went back to where I was a little boil on bank heads saying dogs walk around the street with three legs. I remember seeing dogs in the neighborhood walking around with three less Like, damn, how do you do that? How do a fucking dog survived in the fucking hood with three legs? How do?
How do? How do we eat? But that ship instantly came to me when that ship happened. So, like I said, we're rolling into the hospital, got telling me, man, we gotta cut your ship off. I wake up. My ship is gone. So well it's gone. But guess what, I'm alive. God, damn it knock that I'm being knock that I'm better than anybody. But like I said, I've made that trip plenty times from Atlanta to stop bridge from a none
of the stop bridge. But it was time this time to wake a nigger up of this statue coming from northwest Atlanta. He's a hard heart nigger. What the wou It's time to put you in place, my brother, your flesh, bone, blood, my brother, you feel I'm saying, So let's um, let's think about some ships. You see what I'm saying. But still we have our vices, so we still do our things. You see what I'm saying. So that's what I'm saying.
It was. It was a wake up point for me and my family and for them all because that ship was that it was tragic. It was tragic for some just to happen like that and for them to have to go to my family to go through that animal, to go through that, like, man, we don't know what's gonna happen. Man, that was you know, I just feel that. You know what I'm saying. That's that that's just love
for your family. So like I said, man, you know, if you're fucked up like Dreke saying it, I pull over when I had the snooze, and our crew would tell me. At least that's what I thought. On No cigar. But if I had that wisdom at that time to nigga, pull over, pull over nigger. But I didn't had that wisdom at that time. The wisdom wasn't given to me at that time. So something for me to to learn from and to got them recognized at that time your feeling.
So I'm glad it happened to me. Ship glory. We are old school drinkers, man, And if we can sit here and drinking night, brother, what little I'm goody to drink smoking. I'm not wanting something eating this like yeah, let's get a box and miss windows chicken. Yeah, you give me some of that, but the white follow me, that's great. One twenty two. Let me get your beat ron. I'm already man, I'm gonna smoke and I'm talking man. To be real, man, we like legends in it. Like
people say, you're seeing that that I haven't done. I have have a dumb here, people might say, and then see a little night. Ain't no never just just this in the hood whole. We need some of that ship. But let's say eighty percent ain'tent, man. But I mean we just legend the hood. From high school, man, all of us went to the same high school together at one point a time, same high school. Yeah, okay, y'all, good, Oh curse tell you something. Let's tell you something good.
You gotta ain't nobody in the world fucking good. Damn sit down because you know what. Love. Let me tell you something. I love you know, Yeah, I love my people, man, look at me, at my face, to my eye. I love my people man, Timo the gift, cool Joe see THEO. I love y'all, I really sincerely do. And you know what, this is your platform. Every time y'all want to promote I don't even give you want to kick somebody in there, fucking big talk. I just want to tell y'all to
your face, did him all? I say this as an East Coast brother, and this is my partner. He's gonna say this as a soft person. He's gonna hebody close it out better than me. But good him move. Y'all really meant a lot to the whole East Coast. We washed y'all. We loved y'all. We didn't we we did we didn't look what did do, but we followed to pursuit which all guys was doing. Maybe we didn't know how to translate it and I would see it as an East Coast It might have been me. We didn't know,
but we knew that that ship was great. Let's love and then now the South guy, No, I mean, I just want to say that everything that that cats that were that were hip hop has down South Miami specifically, everything that we was hoping and wanted from the South started coming out from from the Dungeon Family camp outcast and you guys, to me set the precedent for what we all needed to do to for perfection and and what this hip hop game was expected from our region,
but we wanted from our region, not what we're expected from another region. Well, our region could produce and I
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