Episode 240 w/ Cormega

time for drink Champs. Trink up Mother Mother. Would it could be hopefully the sippy This is your boy? Oh what up is d j e f N And this is drink Chats, motherfucking militating crazy World Radio. Happy our make something and right now the brother that you gut standing in front of us to sit in front of us. He had one of the most illuxtrious independent careers ever.

If you want to look up independence, you want to say how you do it after you're leaving the major and approaching this, I would recommend you guys go look at this brother's career. He's a part of a legendary group that they recently got together and it's on one of the best albums of the whole Goddamny. It's the best thing about He is a legend not only in Queens but New York City, but the world. He is the motherfucking innovator. He is a person that I look

up and I respect. And in case your motherfucker's don't know who I'm talking about, we're talking about the legendary, cool, motherfucking mega called Mega. The crazy shit is I'm just me and Cam having spoken or like hung out like fifteen years. So the crazy ship is I'm telling murder Mook the other day and I'm like, yo, when you look at Cameron's video, his very first video, Horse and Carriage, and then you was in there, I forgot that you were sitting right next. So the crazy thing is, I'm

only cameras coat. Just just not pulling this coat, but just tell them like, yo, bro, I really was dead from the beginning. And one thing that I did I overlooked was I wasn't alone. You was then with me, Like, so, how did you wind up in the host of carriage video? That's crazy. I was always in videos that wow. I was like, um, I was always just popping up a video.

It was cool with a lot of rappers. You know, I don't like to go out a lot like now that you know me better, you know me, yes, but when then you know, it is like when people tell me to pull up my pull up. Yes. Yes, So I was at the video and if you remember, I'm fell in the pool. Oh remember that because I can't swim. So yeah, so we're both there that that. That was so dope because, um, a lot of people don't know that a lot of people don't know that Queens of

Harm's history. Because queens we get the we get the worst slack because we really don't. It seems like we really don't get along with each other, like queens within each other. You're talking about within each other. It seems like like it just doesn't happen. It kind of is true, it's kind of true. We'll get into all of that, okay, But l A is like that to Philadelphias like that. I think that New York. I think the focus because we were at a hip hop, it focuses on us

a little bit more. What do you think? Mm hmmm, I think uh Now, I think people call it like they said, queens be having a lot of conflicts, you know what I'm saying, Like we're as down south, they'll have their issues, but they'll make music together. They'll stick together together, they make songs together. Whereas Queens. Uh, I think Queens is like uh a stubborn burrow because because queens had to fight for us respect. Remember back in

the days, people underestimated queens because of caress. Um you didn't hear people from cold queens, and and people underestimated queens, so people thought queens was soft, even on Rickey's aland back in the day queens. So you know, queens always had to fight for us respect. And if parts of Queens that are ferocious, Like I've seen a lot of people get their ass toll off and rockaways because they thought it was sweet, like dudes from out of town

to come out there far rockaways rock. I'm South South Jamaica, left right, you know what I'm Queens gets busy, so um, I think um a lot of I think queens also, Um, Queen's got the most diverse community, so many different people in Queens. So it's so big and it's so uh. That's why I don't think he Trump is on Queens because you can't be from Queens to be racist. I'm sorry, No,

that's true, that's true. But what I'm as far as Trump, I just think I don't know what it is about Queens, but we definitely Queens definitely be having a lot of conflict um even with the murders Maserati Fox got killed in Queens. The brother stack bundles chinks to them, Mr Jay, And I'm not even thinking hard so Queens, I don't know. We gotta do better, we gotta do better. So now this album comes out, King's Disease, I'm not gonna lie.

I didn't see this record coming. I don't know if something was doing that on purpose, but this record comes out and I'm not, like I said, I'm not gonna keep it on Hunt. When I looked at it, I was like, this gotta be an old verse, right, I'm talking about from all of y'all. So I said this must be an old NAS record. But then not only was I wrong? No, I sound good together? What was

that conversation like? Because I know you and as for lack of a better term, have a very confusing type of relationship, like from the outsiders looking at I think that's are looking in um don't share the same peripheral because our relationship wasn't confused, and it's just it was just us, like we Our relationship is different from any of the rappers with conflict because we actually grew up

together with our families know each other. I've spoken to his father before, I've seen his mother thousands of times. You know what I'm saying. I know his brother. You know what I'm saying exactly. God blessed her. She was a graceful, classy woman. You know what I'm saying, Like I know Jabari before. You know what I'm saying, Like I knew not said he knows Corey. So it's a difference between these other beats. So I think it was both.

It wasn't confused and it was just us. It was just an emotional his emotions involved, and I think UM time and UM time and understanding could could could rectify things if the love is real, you know what I'm saying. So we both mature men, and you know when we want one thing about me as you know, because you know me now, I don't gotta speak to you every day, but when I speak to you, it's like we were speaking every day. And and when we spoke everything it

feels like we never ever had issues. So let me ask you this. So what he called you? Did he did he tell you that this is a firm record or he just said just send your verse and you you didn't really know. It wasn't It wasn't like you know how I am. So when we spoke, it wasn't about music, because I don't care about the music. I even on some real ship. I don't even care about the affirm song or any song. It's it's about our friendship.

Like if we never rap again, the fact that our friendship is repaired, that's the most beautiful thing out of it all. That's what That's what's great about you. I continue. I'll get into that later, but continue. So we spoke, We spoke about and I know you mean this because I know you and I know you mean this. So so we spoke about numerous things before we even got

to the song, you know what I'm saying. And then um, by the time we got to um speaking about doing the song, I was with it because um, obviously, because we're cool, and because that's what the culture wanted, Like people wanted us to make music for so long. I'll never realized how bad that the public wanted that. I

didn't realize it until it dropped as well. When it dropped, I was like, wall, okay, I continue, so and that's that's the crazy ship is I forgot how much I'm a fan of the group because honestly, the Firm kind of put me on to a certain extent. But I forgot how much I was a fan of the group when I heard the record, and I just kept rewinding because I got a job to do, so I gotta be analytical, so I kept me winding, and I was like, is that the whole first is that like I'm being

I'm being a fan. I'm being a fan, so I'm looking and when I forget, I don't know if I posted it or whatever I did, And I just see the fans reaction, how the firm because it was a supergroup.

It was the very first supergroup to me, Yeah, yeah, it was so all right now getting it into that, let's get straight into it, because I did act nature the other day that he was on the hill and I said, I asked to repeat the rhind the reason why I asked to repeat the r to beat the rynd the heat he had dissed you, because you know I was in that session. I know. I never and this is the thing that the craziest ship is maca just real talk. I never knew why he dissed it.

I was actually in the session. I went upstay as I said that to him. What he was here, I wouldnderstand when he came back. That's the reason why I asked him was because when they got edited. You remember they edited him, and when they got edited, I didn't. I never knew where did that come from. So let's did you do what? Jack some champagne? Now? Yeah, so listen, Okay, before we didn't get to that. Okay, you just said that. You asked saying to say what you say? I asked nature,

why did he do that? Because I thought, this is what I thought when I went to the back food nahs or somebody gassed him in all our reality, I think he just did it on his own. All right, let me stop you there, okay, please, you just did. He made me proudly this. Now you just did a You had a great journalistic moment. Do you realize all these years in hip hop, no journalists ever kept it a hundred like that? Remember they were people were trying

to paint pictures of me changing navatives about me. Remember mega'sine megasine hater or Mega it's jealous, he just wants to shine, or et cetera. He just nature because he's mad. You're the first journalist I ever said that that brought that out, and and they just said it on your show. So I knew, I knew, but but the perception was exactly true. It's true. You're right. You see what I'm saying. So when that happened, I was shocked. I was like, wow, so um, but it is what it is. You know,

it's oldest, you know. But we have to have your side because I just had natures. Okay, so what so the thing is this right? I need to know because and you said than to me the other day, and I had agree with you. You said one thing about me, Nori, you knew about who I was on the street prior to you knew who I was as a rapper, And that's true. I did hear about core Mecca on the street prior to me hearing about you as a rapper.

I heard about you getting busy on the streets. So one thing for show, for certain I did not know what this was coming from. When I asked Nature that I was being totally for real because I didn't know, and I wasn't powerful enough to be like take my verse or or I don't want to be a bard. I wasn't powerful enough. I had to just play my position. So you you knowing you and NAS probably having a little discrepancies or whatever. You're hearing that nature of this too.

That stup had to funk you up. Know that started the descrepacies. That's what I'm saying, you have now. This is before that record. That record started the whole ship. I did not notice. I'm really so, I said, you just had Yeah, I had that reckon never came now I knows this jumble jump, so I didn't know. See, I never knew. So when I heard that record, I was just mad. I'm thinking everybody's gone at me. So I'm like, damn. I'm like, damn. I thought me and

nort was cool. Damn. Like you know what saying now, I know now thought back that he had a problem with you. To know, if you listen, if somebody comes out soon called DJ ever called me Pila, You're gonna be like, yeah, I thought me and Meg was cold. You might not be You're gonna be like so next time you see me, you might be hands't gona be that warm. So it's like I was just like wow. I was like, that's just shocked me. So um it

is what it is like that started everything. If that record never came out there, there would be no distance. I had no reason to dis anybody. You know what I'm saying. I did not know that. I did not know. I sweel have God learned it right now? Let's that's one of my favor So the industry really owes me apology. Only Corny asogized to you for that. But Mega, I'm gonna be honest with you. At that time, Megan was like one of the most arrogantess. Dude, explain that to me.

That's how you came over gross, like whenever I used to come around, I'll see you. I just used to be like and later on identify it with confidence. I was too young to look at that and say that's confidence. I was looking like dad. Maybe he's an average between confidence and arrogance. Like in like, explain to me what made you think? Tell you what the difference is as a rock who as a human being pretty much both pretty much both because I'm I'm gonna keep you real.

You was always like a fly, dude. He was always like flying in the average person you came and you always had to fly polo on and always just and I'll just be like and people that was the rule

about you, Like Megan's an arrogant guy. So that's the reason why I think people thought you saw the nature beef as opposed to nature because because because because if you put you in nature together, a person is gonna remember you no dispective, Nat, that's my brother, but they person is gonna remember it's something about your or or something about your style. And and that's the reason why I think it came off. Have you ever heard that about yourself? Only from people with that yo, you think

about this. Nobody in Brooklyn says that. Nobody far away, you know, people from all over that New Week hmm, if any I mean, if that's the worst people can say about me, Wow, if that's the worst actually, because that's like they said, Jordan is arrogant, they said Kobe's arrogant. I was confident, but at the same time you said I wear polar all the time. There's a girl name te Teeth from Queen but you probably one day, I'm

standing on the hill. I got the crazy polo shirting, the dopest fun and she was complimenting me on the shirt and ain't there And I'm saying, because she's a live show to t T shoo confirmness, I took my polo shirt off my back and gave it to her. So why people don't tell that side of the story. Remember Megan Couto While people don't say, oh Megan, remember remember that peace mega ha. I was wearing diamonds before everybody too, but I never made nobody feel less about it.

That same Domond penance you see me on it. I gave it to Spink when he came home. Same Gucci wat to have with the authentic Gucci dimonds. I gave that to somebody when they came home. Why people don't say that? So the people that said yo, nor you know me better than that. I'm a very quiet with you. So when you so, when you stay to yourself and you yo, people seem more in me than I've seen it myself. Because it's like I'm not an outgoing person.

I'm not the type of person I'm saying, how you doing? My name is Mega. I stayed to myself. I'm a quiet every time we go out with im. Whar am I? I'm in the cut, so you see me in the cut and I'm looking a certain way and I'm quiet. Sometimes people think I'm staying old fish when when I'm really just to myself. Some people say I'm shy. Some people just that's pretty pretty much the opposite of arrogance,

you know what it's like. So if the worst that that somebody can say about me is I'm arrogant, I must be a hell of a dude. You've never heard nobody saying, Meg, it's a snake. You've never felt uncomfortable around me. You've never heard nobody say, Mega, jerk me right, let's let's let's switch it up a little bit. You have the experience to be on folly, to be down with Chris, Like, what was your experience with Chris la?

Chris Lottie was like a big brother that you always want to impress, that you always want to try to press. He gives you tough love, especially me. Um. It was an honor. I learned a lie. I learned about patience because I was impatient. I wanted to come out, and Chris was teaching me about the game. But during that time being on Violator shout out to Dave Bloody, shout out to the sky, Dave Scott, I learned how to

market myself. I was doing stuff to prove mom my value or that I'm worthy of this to Chris, I was on the shelf. No before I was on the shelf, I was on Violator. And the thing a lot of young artists got to realize is when you get signed, you're an investment. So it's not like, Okay, we sound you hot, We're putting you right out. They gotta build you up and they gotta figure out how they're gonna

get their money back. So while I was on Violator, I've seen artists doing their thing and I and I felt like I was suspended in time because she was signed to violated records. Right, Okay, not not enough. So also like the conflict that that was happening to me when I wasn't with the firm, that slow things up because a lot of labels they market you, they piggyback off of other things so that that helps with their marketing. So that they had changed switch lanes. But I believed

in myself. I knew what I was. I was capable, and at the time, bad Boy dominated hip hop because he was supposed to be signed a bad Boy, right, I wanted I could have signed to bad I mean, I can't say I could have, but Puffy. When I Puffy Damn Show, I was in Puffy's office and Puffy pretty excited. It was me trying to figure the reason.

The reason I never went back puffis like, you've just come back with some songs out of um because somebody, you know there was like people when our circle was like don't don't just chill because that's that's gonna affect the firm thing. So my loyalty, Yeah, I would have loved it. I would have signed a Puffy with no lawyer. But Bey was still alive, bro everything. So what I'm saying, figure they had my phone, I don't huldup Yo called Mega. Now I know, guys, It's okay. Listen, guys, I cut myself,

Burger's cut me shaving. So this little white thing is it's it's a little thing. It's a go ahead. So the only reason I never went back to Bad Boys because because of my loyalty. I was told not to and I didn't. So let me ask you something because during that time, it was Steve Stout and it was Chris liked you was on the Chris Lady side. Did you feel like you ever got caught in between Chris lightly and Chris and I'm Steve stout ship because you know they had beef on the law. I know that

I found out out. I didn't really know that. But when Steve was on your show, he says something about Chris. He just listen. When I went back, I just looked at it. Chris, I wasn't taste that was not tasteful. Um, and hold on before you say something. I'm gonna say this. I owed you, Mike Geronimo and a z apology because I still wann't. Let's Steve Stout say whatever he wanted to say, but I'm supposed to check him. At that time.

I wasn't skilled. I wasn't enough to stop and be articulate, and I was wanting to iron out me and his ship so much that I let that ship go about my head. But I always said something that I regret. You a Zy and my Gerano should have said something, but like I said, but let's not let me get back to the original question, because what I found out later on in life was Steve and Chris had a quiet be they saw each other and they were very cordial, very respectful. I ain't threw me off because we from

we gotta be, We're not with you. Did you ever feel like you was caught in between that I was confused? I thought they was cool. Yes, but it's like Chris wanted to sign me, and then Steve was like at one point Stevid like, don't sign the deal. I have certain such for you a certain day, Like yeah, okay. So I'm like all right, So it didn't happen. See the things. I'm sorry, I'm going on over the place. You were like the number one thing to sign, like you would like, for lack of a better turn, had

the biggest bus. You had the biggest bu the biggest, biggest bus. So I know they played politics with you, like I know that you remember. You don't remember. I remember. I remember. I'm talking to you. I remember almost had the penalty deal. Yo, I don't lie. Listen, everybody wanted to sign Mecca, Like it was like, I'm glad I didn't take the South, Salute to I'm Neil Levine, and salute to y'all because I put that work out. We did. But um yeah, I had the big bus. I had

dumb mad labels want in the sign me. Um, I just I went with um. I went with the most money, which is not the best, not the best thing. You want to go with the people that's gonna cater to you. So signed as the depth Jam was like signing to them, to the Yankees, like you might not. So it was like I signed there because I grew up on for l L and Slick Wreck and Public Enemy. I signed it for vis. This was Leo, like Kevin Lows came a little after, but um yeah, Leo was there. Um

I learned a lot from Leo. People say a lot of things about Leo, but I'm gonna tell you one thing. He's one of my favorite CEO. I learned a lot from Leo, So I can't front of that man from him too. So now let's get straight to it. So Steve Stout, I wanted to. I wanted to understand what he was doing. Steve Stout came on here and he said why because now I shouted out Mega, he was supposed to just be on Mr Say and God bless Steve, because I don't want to see them. Like, but a

lot of people don't know my wife. I'm about to say, people want some eighth the only but a lot of people don't know. And I'm not saying this because you're here. I say this when you're not here. One of the biggest, one of the illest mcs coming out of Queens was you. Probably before I heard the Naas and now that I've talked about the street Ship, I heard of you. They was always saying there's a dude from a Queensbridge called Mega.

He's the next Guy's the next guy. So when I did rip back and I heard Stop say that, it didn't disturb me because he's from Queens so he had to hear the same rumor as I heard. Maybe not, maybe not because he's from a different part of Queens and he's yeah, he he didn't do his research and and and sometimes when you're successful like he is, you only hear what you want to hear. That's so the way I've seen it. He didn't believe in me, and he didn't he didn't do his research enough because um,

like you said before I went to jail. I was buzzing me before I heard about Nash. And there was a time when um, Molly Marl was like Dr Dre of the East Coast. You know what I'm saying. He just brought else career back in the early nine He's working with TLC and this one and that were big people and he wasn't. He was busy, so like there was no artist in Queery that called his attention, so he heard everybody. So I was on the street still

and I think I told you before. There's a woman named Mary Stevens from Queensbridge and she uh got word to somebody Hank Hank Carter who knew Molly, and she was like, I want Marlon to hear his music because this guy is good. You know you just called Morty Mam Mally Molly. Yeah, I like that. So Molly got winded.

One of my joints. I had a song called Sex, Drugs, Bitches of Money and Molly heard it and next thing you know, I got the call that it was like, Molly want you t j Ellis was my producer at first. So me and Ellis is going to Molly Mar's house recording and the unfortunates nas rhyming at that time, not now. Um. Actually, um, this is history right now when um LoVa the Barbecuelva the barbecue and all that was was out already wow. Um, but I still was buzzing now now just doing this

thing too. But I was buzzing. And the funny thing is call the case. Yeah, I called the case. But the funny thing is, um, even when um, when I was playing my ship, I always, even as an artist, I always try to look out for people that was my people. Like we went to Brooklyn Queen's Day, remember first met Park and we got on the stage. Yeah, I feel like here I was performing. I feel like he had a bucket on Wack and Ellie I don't remember. I know tras Is Roman and YEAHMI said give Mega

to mike. YEAHMI jumped on the stage. Yeah, And and got the mike and I jumped on the stage and I said it was NICs. Now. I jumped on the stage and I did my verse from a song called set It Off that was one one of the Poets albums. And um, now I did this verse from lobb Of to Barbecue. So I wasn't even on and I still was showing love. That's how he was. You know what I'm saying. So I opened up for Arab and rock him at the Apollo. So all this stuff, Steve need

to chill because he didn't. He didn't do his research. He didn't like me. He took things personal, even with the he took things personal. Like you know what I think, mag I'm sorry to cut you off. This is I'm not I'm not defending him, but what I think was he was invested in NAS and NAS that's it. Anything came around or disputed Nis. He just didn't want to do that. You know. In the same show he told me he hated on me to my face. He said, I thought you ain't go hard nor he said that

to my face. So well, I'm gonna show you just how complex Magazine interview with Steve Stout. There was an interview with Cormega saying you. There was an interview with car Mega was saying that you had a role in him being kicked out the firm. He Steve, he was never in the firm. Man, He should have never been in the firm. Believe me, he wasn't. Truly didn't get along cold tom Out. Tom Out even when NAS was shouting them on one Love, they weren't cool. That was cool.

He just got out of jail. It took him a while to get acclimated to what was going on. Tim out, let me fix this right now. First of all, one Love came out, Steve, you wasn't even in the picture. You was not Nas manager until it was written. When we Love came out. I was in jail when it was. I was there when Nas y'all together that. Yes, yes, Steve wasn't around. I was there when Nas met Steve's so right now you're giving your person that you was there.

You wasn't even when Nas was shouting the mount on one Love. They weren't cool. That was cool. He just got out jail. No, I didn't get out of jail. I was in jail, said one love, One Love at the term of been jail man. People write in jail. When I was writing Nas and jails would write one Love at the end of my letter. Okay, now should I continue? That was cool. He just got out of jail. It took him a while to get acclimated to what was going on. In the business sense, he said, In

the business sense, and his manager at the time. A lot of different things times Chris no time out, he said, in a business sense, and his manage at the time, a lot of different listened to that. They didn't like Bis. Bis wasn't seasoned, he was new. But there goes there goes arrogant mega again. I gave somebody from the project a chance to be my manager. There goes me showing love as usual. So Biz didn't have the savvy business savvy of a mar Pitts or a Steve or a Chrish.

But he was somebody from the hood that I was trying to give a chance to. All right, So in the business sense, in the business sense, I owned my masters and I owned my publishing. So how I didn't have a business sence. I've been owing my publics sence since I was on death jams. Okay um, A lot of different things. But here's this, he's act really a really good guy, does it? Steven? How the funk are you belligerent and a really good guy? That's inconsistent? You

can't be belligerent and be a really good guy. A little breakdown, time out. But he felt like NAS owed him too much and felt like he was too important. Yo on my mother's grave. You can call nas. You can ask no in your private life, on your p or any time. I've never asked NOAs for a penny. Now it's not even the only famous dude from Queen Bridge.

I never asked Molly Marl or anything. I never asked Shan Craig, Chantey, Craig Nature Cape, nor Mark Deep, Louis, Louis de Valve round test everybody from the Bridge and say you even your man used to say that Megan, don't ask no wife for ship right now? So how so so so this is a guy who takes things too personal. You can't mix business with personal. So when he wants to compete with Chris, like that's the different between Chris and Steve Christine Kristin let that personal intervene

with the business. So when you sing, I had to get acclimated, had to get aclimated the street. I was just out of jail. You can't tell somebody that's first out of jail some of the things that you were saying to me as a man. Now, with all of this being said, um I brought I showed this, I read this to show you the inconsistency. And so that so the next question was so even when he was on the firm of action, he wasn't actually part of

the firm. They asked him that because they're like obviously shocked, and he's like, well he was at the time. You just contradicted yoursel first statement said he never was. He said that idea this surround him, and he just bunked out right. He said that projects should have been fantastic. I have arguments all the time with Jay and Park. You're bouncing. You deflected from the question. So my thing is this, where did I bug all that? Where did

I bug out? Is I didn't sign to you? Yeah, probably because any anything other than that, I didn't bark out and you understand that though you understand that, but you said you probably you nas man, he managed his nas You come home, you get the biggest deal with his enemy that we learned later. I didn't know that's the enemy, and that's not my business. It's true, but I just came home. I just came home from But

you see where he's coming from. Though I don't see where he's coming because he because because no, I'm the type of dude now that you see before you didn't know me like you know me now, And that's the thing. A lot of people don't know that. You know me better now. You could talk to me about anything, but what I'm trying to say. If you told me that, all I'm trying to say is trying to see it from his angle and his angle, He's probably like, Yo,

what Mega is one of this? This this is a mythical creature, right, this guy has so much buzz and he's nas man. So he probably looked at it like, you're supposed to sign with me, and you signed to Chris even though it's violent records. I'm just trying to give you steve to it. I think he might have took a fence to it. He listened to that afterwards. Just how this fucking regulation game. I'm not good with Spike.

I'm not good with Spike. Like I'm very transparent, Like you know that I'm gonna take a person if I get upset about Son, Yo, Son, I moved honorably. Even people that don't funk with me, be like, yo, Megan's a loyal duel. Megan's a solid dude, straight up. You know that. You know people from the street, Yo, we never had but you see that's where Steves could have been coming from he was doing too much stuff to

to to win my my my affiliation with him. Yo, they raised me off a song a lot of familiar. I was a lot of familiar, the regional version. Then I got raised offit, you know what I'm saying. Or I go to a if there's if there's a show. There was a show one time and there's a bunch of people from the hood Queensbridge there, so I'm on thet We're all on the line. We're getting in the show. So I'm last. I stand last because I'm an artist. I'm mega. So y'all go in. I'm telling the guy

you let them go because I'm gonna get in. And it's at Nassaw Collins Sam So there's a bunch of tickets for all of us. So the tickets Steve gave me. I'm thinking, I'm good. Everybody got tickets. So he's reading regular people from the hood, you know some of these people. So he's like, I just looking at the tickets. So he's pointing, like, all right, your cities over there, like Filly,

don't tell me your tickets up there people, y'all. So I'm like, yo, he was playing a lot of games like that, but that you know, if you, if me and Steve would have really had dialogue, I think we could have had to understand. But we didn't have the dialogue. I think me and you went through the same thing with him. This is the reason why I'm gonna actually like trying to wrap for him a little bit, is because I feel like we chose the other side. We

were it was Chris is boys. You understand like we were, We would were. You were violator, whether you look at it like that or not. I was violator. And later on in life, after him coming on the show and him saying, you know, because you guys with quests and he's saying all that, it hit me later that I was in the middle of a war that I didn't know. I was in time out. This is why money, This is why money doesn't make you happyer. Money isn't everything,

because first of all, how long is Crispin dead? A minute? Right? How long is he How long does these interactions happened? Me signing with with with with violating was n six, So you mean in eighteen, no want that in seventeen? How many years later like this, you're a millionaire right now. You you got a good life. Let all that ship go. I let go. You know, I don't have no beef with nobody no more. I don't even got beef for I don't got beef with Steve. I don't got no

problem with Steve. I respect Steve. You know what I'm saying. Whatever happened in the past, that's the past. You know, people that live in people that live in the past don't have no real estate in the present. I think it makes a noise of that continue. So you do know your legend, They're gonna have to talk about you. The guy to talk about you, maga. I I feel like sometimes you humble yourself and feel like people shopping, But that's that You're part of hip hop history. They're

gonna bring you off every fucking time. You see that word you just use and that you follow me on social media said you be in my shows. That's the word more people used than the arrogant Megan's man, humble. I didn't even know that about myself. I didn't even I just thought I was quiet, man. People be like I do regular stuff that's regular to me like, but fans find it, they find it to be bigger than normal because a lot of artists don't do the things

I do. I've been talking to fans on social I've been on social media for what overfit over fifteen years. I mean I've been on the internet before, over fifteen years. I was doing stuff before people was doing it. I was on the internet. I don't even know the year, but you know this stuff like I interact with my fans after the shows. You've been at shows, I talked to them, I was signed the autographs like I'm I'm the same the same way I am now, I've been

like that. It's just that a lot of people didn't know that they had their perceptions. So the scariest thing about this whole conversation that we're just having is that a lot of the narratives on me were created by other people, not even by my own actions. And that's the funk up thing. And that's why I was like funk the industry, because it's like people was creating these things. I don't even like the party. It's like he wanted

to be an alarmed like the party. Today. I have a sick Jes Luise, You've got jay Z and pood you bro, there's five as a sick fifty dollars to sip. Please have one sick goddamnit, geez, Louise, I'm please, come on, man, come on, let's do it. Let's come on. What's it you think about that? But wasn't this question? God? Because listen, I said on Drink Champs with Trash, I said, I think Mega became even batter person when you took your shahda. I attribute that to Islam at my wrong, I think

where's my phone? That you got more spec I gotta know. I want to know that that I think. I think you're right, and I think you're wrong. I'm like, I respect this, I think you're right. Take it from wrong first. I think you're wrong because you feel like somebody brought this out recently. There's like, yo, i've seen anything with nor like he's like you've been like that, Like you gotta understand, Like Queen Fridge, you was a part of that of the movement. Yes I'm not, but I I

can't take that. It's part of that movement. So you noticed just from you being out there, there's different movements and the people stick today sat the people stick today set. Sometimes rappers have issues with each other. It don't even because of the rappers, because of other people people involved. So I think you really never me and you was cordiable.

We never really got to know each other. So if you were fed a certain thing, if I'm acquired dude and you see me posted up and like you said, I'm looking a certain way, you might look like, oh, just dude thinking. But if you know me, I've been think about it. I took the whole queen for the six Flags. I wasn't Muslim when I did that. I was paying for basketball to this for women. I wasn't Muslim when I did that. I put bills on it from the project. He never managed nobody. I had superstar

Man and just wanted to manage me. I wasn't Muslim when I did that, Like I did a lot for a lot of people. I wasn't Muslim, and I did that even in the street. You never heard like I never abused my power. I used to. I always just trying to make peace, you know what I'm saying. But people don't talk about that. So it's like I think, Um, I think you never really got to know me. People don't know like like that, not meeen we ce bridge. We stay the creeze bridges. It was the only two rapport,

but we was. It was good. So the only two raptors and mother whole fucking thing. I think after that we really started having Before we just had peace and all of that. And back in the days, I didn't know where you stood. Because I keep it real. There was times when we had a mutual I'm associated what you want and he would be like, yeah, no, he said, like like it almost made it feel like me you was me and you was competition, but we wasn't competition or like like um yeah, but um because I want

the trash said that. Trash said, or you're a mega is cool. I thin't gonna know for that too. So so and the crazy thing was it wasn't that. I don't think he was saying that. What I think he was saying was I never see y'all hung out together. I think because we didn't. When we would hung out, we wouldn't like it's not it's not, he's nothing you gotta see, like, I've never seen him and you hang out together. So so my thing is this, I'll get

to that in a minute. So when me and you got cool, we did something we never did in the pass, like I might see you at a show and we're standing at each other. What up? What's good? You got your people? I got my people were good, you know what I'm saying. But it's wouldn't write you to show you and write you the shows. You come out with my guests, I come out of your guess, and then it's like you're fucking with each other, but then there's always somebody in between that that U yo. Yeah no,

he said dish. Somebody told me you didn't like me, so so so listen. So the son said, y'all hate each other. For one, that's an exaggeration because hate is a strong word. So as a man, did me and you ever stop each other's money? Did we ever try to go at each other's lady? Did we ever had physical conflict? So? Why the funk would I hate you? It was always other people never hated you. So as far as the light part, I didn't know if I should like you because I'm here and like you said this,

so I'm like what it's like. But it's like, damn, I'm trying to figure Norri out because somebody to say something. But then Noria showed me love that the crazy ship. It was the same thing back for me. People would you know what it was? I think people just didn't want us to be cool Like I think, Bro, you gotta understand, I want to against Queensbridge. I want to gainst my own people to yo, don't you're not jumping him. That's how we know. So ship like that trash don't

know because he wasn't dead. So and then Yo, you're doing Clue Show. You invited me to Clue Show. See ship like that? Or you did your video. I'm in the video in the starring rock in ordem you supposed to run some stars and so I'm like, yo, so it's like okay for somebody that don't like me this dude and showing a lot of love, I feel like

I feel like they did. They played us, So I think so so like I said, and I thought to myself, reasons, I said, you know what, Like, think about how many people we knew that as dead and you'd be like, damn, he died over some bullshit or somebody that's in jail and you'd be like, damn, hit Joe some bullshit. So you gotta think about that with relationships, like why didn't I like nor Rea? But why didn't like because somebody said, no,

you don't like me. I gotta I gotta me. Don't like me because of that exactly because you feel I didn't get defensive. So it's like every true, it's like I did the same thing. I never had to get you. I never Let's get straight into it. So you're drag y'all got to like weirdest. I don't know what it is, and you you hit me and you said, yo, why would you ask trash about me? And the thing is, I didn't know where y'all stood as a real human, and we didn't speak about it or camera or on

camera trash. So I need to hear your side of the story. I'm gonna say this. What is he right now? Is he? Is he right? What is he his brother? What is he like? Is he fopper? Saying? What is he? What's his? What is he right now? I'm not sure? Okay, I think he's fopped because all right, so all right, if he's Fopper center on that show that you did, he said, yeah, he do you know what kills me about you? Omega? Y'all used to hate each other. So and then you said I get Megan. Now he said,

you get him down? Does he get you? That was said? That was a funk tongue, that was what that was forked tongue. I've never heard this expression. This sounds like thank you. Right, So I'm like, wow, that's like somebody slotting slotting. That's saying that even if I like you, like you really don't like me that he's saying, dude, does he get you? So? And then you said to me, Megan's a better person since he became Muslim. Then he said, I've been on sha how I've been on all those

schools of thoughts. I'm just saying I'm the same niggat all. So my thing is, this tragedy is a competitive dude, and you know this, He's always been and he still is. And this ain't the point in life. You're supposed to be chilling right now. So if you just said Megan's a better person since he became Muslim, why you can't just be proud of me? Why you can't just be proud at Mega being a better person? Right? Then he says, uh, I've been on sha howd I've been on all those

trains of thought? As if those things are behind you now that those that make you a better So now if you're righteous, right, right? I had a righteous down. This is so articulate. How could one claim to be righteous and not have knowledge, wisdom and understanding of two men having peace? When the very first word you say to a brother or sister is peace, whether it's God or Earth, you say peace to them peace. So knowledge yourself. It's just information if not applied in your ways and actions.

So if he's seen that me and you were not cool back in the days, and that's it something to be celebrated, not questions, I understand. So I made a mental old of that, and then I said, any man that truly understands the merits of peace would commend those who find it, unless unless it's something he himself has yet to find, progression is classes damn keep going. Any man that truly understands the merits of peace with commendos who find it, unless it's something he himself has yet

to find. Progression is far and ground for those content with standing and regression. Piece is a beautiful thing. That's why it's noticeable when a person is at peace, they move different, and lack of peace leaves you vulnerable to turmoil, and that too is noticeable. Well, I attribute that I'm being being honest with you because, like I said, we didn't know each other. But we didnt know each other, but since if i'd have been the shata that that,

I get that. But the thing is, I'll be feeling like you at peace now you know what it was Back then, I just felt like I felt like we were at war period rappers. We was always on guard exactly. But I just felt like in these recent years be seeing you, You've just been acquiring that same exact ship you said that you've been you, You've been you come across like as a piece of First I'll break that down to you two things. It's it's um. It's a few things that make me. There's a few things that

make me um at peace. Um. Being Muslim does bring you peace, um, if you if you're seeking it, and somebody like us where we came from, we gotta seek peace because we see the other side so much like yo, your mom is still alive. Right, So it's like that's yo, bro, I don't got that. So on your worst days, let's just say you fell off, you had nothing you could go,

you could go and get that hug from mom. You could go get that that home cooked mill, that conversation my mom wasn't My mom never got to see me typing my shoelaces, never got to see me graduate from kindergarten, never got to see me riding a bike. So so it's people like you that I look at y'all like y'all blessed to have that. So the Muslim thing is like you have to carry yourself in a a certain way as a Muslim. It's a thing called a dad too.

It's a respect that you show others and and it's like, um, the energy you put out is is kind of like the energy that you want to receive. Now as a Muslim, I try to set example or try to lead by example with my ways in my action. That's why I try not to be inconsistent. And that's why, um, I do everything well through it out. Um. The reason I want pieces because I've never had it. It's just like when you pull, you want money, when you cold, you

want warmth, Allen, It's like Marcus Gary times two. That's all. That's all. I'm sorry. I spoke to one of my friends. He's not from the hood. Um, he's a white guy. He was raising New England. Comes from a good family and he's seen He said, yo, Mega, you've been more funerals than than some then my grandfather. You know, people in the eighties and you know, get to a certain age.

Your grandfather's your grandpather. They don't have some funds. It's like when you look at my life since you knew me, it's a gym between knowing somebody being close to somebody. Look at the people that died from Queen per Downstoro that was close, not not I with me like Draws was close with me. Spake Pete like you know, it wasn't people. I wasn't with these people, you know, saying I lost so many people. My cousin Ogi died. You know what's the crazy ship? Man? I'm gonna tell you something.

I had never knew best friends shoot at each other until I went to Queensbriog. Yeah, yeah, I see crazy yet married with But Queen bed are different. Sometimes I went one week it was Lake and Draws in the terror down together. And the next week they said you can't go there, and I said why and they said Lake and Draws. Zach wall Oh, he was going to queen you back there, I was like, I was the only thing. I can't even shot mEq shot me me.

There I went and that was the first time I said, damn, best friends could become strangers with like the NIS line, I've been best friends to become strangers. I remember that like it was yesterday. I remember a lake and Draws being best friends. And when I came back and I asked for them together, it was like it was taboo to actually and they're like, what are you talking about? That? Hang LIKEE Like I was like, I saw that. I saw this in my own eyes. That's my first life lesson, dad.

You can be best friends and enemies the fucking very next day. Because that's how it seemed like to me. And that's and that's why Recipes Draws took many years to heal from Draws d um. And that's why I seek peace, and that's why I think I'm sorry. Can you say that again? You said it took years for you. It took me years to recover from Drawers being gone. It wasn't an easy loss for me, is it Okay? We talked about the situation Draws, because I'll tell you and you could tell me if you want to or

this part out because this this hurt me too. The fact that it was like an eighteen year old. I don't think it was. No, I don't think he's eighteen. The dude who killed him, he's not. He's older than that, all right, But it's still it's still sad because because it is that, like the O G is not respecting that the young culture. Is that us being old sometimes? No, no, no, it's it's it's the I think drawings drus love. I don't think nobody wore Queen Gridge on his chest like

Drawings he did. And I think Bumpy Bumpy is close up. He's like close second. Yeah, shout out to Bump. Drawers loved the hood so hard, he would defend anybody, and I think he was just he just loved the hood. The love that he gave should have that that should have never happened. That ship. I stopped going to queens Bridge when George died for like a year, and I couldn't even walk by that area because it hurt um. She heard me too. Yeah, I don't know even fun

queens Bridge. That was my man. Like I know Draws, I know the other person I know drawers mother, I know the other person's mother. I don't know that you know what I'm saying. So that's the saddest thing about hood beats. And that's why sometimes you gotta like the old meat. You know what the problem is. We move off ego and pride. Sometimes we get we we have

spontaneous reactions. It's like you know what I'm saying. And it's like I said before, like a gun has to be the last resort, not the first response, because you can't take that back. I don't know it was. This thing is kicking right now. So a lot of times, a lot of things that happened in the hood, if we had just thought it out, it wouldn't have happened. Like my crew, Droves was a good fella. I always heard of the good Fellas. Yeah, Droves was a good

fella and like that. That that across the divide because Droves are part of us and forty Busters and good Fellas. What was it? What was the difference? Forty buses is a different crew forty buss just like that's one of the first the forty Busters, like the prototype for us, Like you know what I'm saying, Like we we we we we respect them. You know what I'm saying. Um, the way they moved, they moved like a family, like a unit. And basically it was like the protop for us.

There was a blueprint for us that these people came before you and not. And then let's just where's draws from? He's from Temp Street or he draws from forty shide of Temp Street. Rest in peace to her, to her, her brother, he's from Temps Street. So listen, let's just give ten seconds of total solids right now because he's from Temps Street and let's give some love to my brother sattles ready, ten seconds rest in peace? Draws solid Yeah,

ain't gonna five runs draws on tour with me. I've never seen somebody this crazy like I love draws like he was going, told him just lose his mind. Different draws is a different dude. Man, I'm missing even puff. No draws us out of it. So all right, we get you come home, right. You you're aware that these people want to sign. You were aware that these people want to sign. How was it initially that you you you made that decision to go with Chris or to to do this. And I imagine and I sincerely do

not notice answer. Was NAS helping you in that direction? Or was it like when you came home? I came home ninety five, I got signed the ninety six. Um, when I came home, something was like because just becoming Nas. At this point he was already heady, yo, real toy. He could have retired after Alematic and you will still be mentioned as the greatest, one of the greatest, you know. So he was already who he was. Um, when I

came home, he tried to get me a deal. See this is the thing, Chris, I mean, Um, Steve don't know. Son tried to give me a deal already. They just didn't. Yeah, he tried to give me a deal with Capitol Records when you came home. Was even in the picture. But they didn't. They didn't. They didn't jump on it. They didn't. So I said to myself, UM, I just gotta work harder, you know what I'm saying. So I started jumping on mad mix tapes. I started going to doing ciphers ironic

we in Miami. I went to how can I be down? And I started I d you know what I'm saying. I was incited to drop ever I was I was in Cipher's killing it. So then people was like, Steve Rifkin, Steve Rifkin's brother, I never forget this day because this is like keep it real, goals wrong moment. Steve Rifkin's brother was like, because the god Biz used to manage Noid too, he had annoyed at me at the same time.

But Nooyd went to Tommy Boy Records and Loud wanted NOI because so they were they felt away about that. So um, Steve River's brother was like, yellis and we'll sign you right now. We just don't want to deal with biss. Yeahs had a funny reputation. No no no. I guess it was like no not just that because it was mad about the noise thing. Yeah, so it's like he went he took a noise elsewhere when they

wanted him to bring noise there. So the guy was like basically saying this this dude, right now, you can go to you can come Loud so daun m p dam and you wouldn't big punt video too. Yeah that was a video guy with my guy, so so later we'll bring that up. Fun that prodigy. So yeah, so obviously I didn't go it aloud, so you regret that, or no, it looks like it's definitely yeah. No no, no, no no, no, not understand everything. Let me let me

be real. I think everything in life happens the way it's supposed to happen, because sometimes you gotta fall in order to learn how to get up, and sometimes you gotta go through ship. If I didn't go through the things I went through, I would have never been independent or whatever, or you know what I'm saying. It's one of the best things about you that a lot of people don't know. That's how hard it is, how harder it is to be independent, and how much you went

use relentless with it. I say that about you like all the time, like I respect how you kept me like from land Speed to all these these these and you knew who the funk with like you knew who the funk was at the right time. And I always amired that about you. I always amired your overseas game because us it was one point where America just didn't want to pay me m And you know what I did from myself was the Doodludorf, Germany. I was in Dublin,

I was in fucking frankfoot Hanburg. I was in fucking Amsterdam every fucking other week, and the only person I knew that was doing that was you. And I was like, he's a hustler because he's doing it. I respected that because I knew you're doing exactly the same thing you want. You wanted your quota and you ain't wanna come down here. That's what I was doing it for. And but but how did you see that the future to be independent like that to get it, That's a great question. He

had a journey. Hustle. Hustle is a hustle the way I looked at it like this, because you know, most artists would have left the amazing dependent and it would have been a while before they even got the curse. I'm being honest. I'm sorry to defer this curse. I hate the independent. It's hard. It's it's hard. It's not glorious. I told people that it's not glorious. It's not you're

not gonna get all the perks everybody else get. But if you put in that work, I had a longer career than a lot of artists that that that have that got more. I'm shining at me or that that I was overlooked for certain other artists and now here I am on drink Chaps and they can't even get on the show. Goddamn. But you started doing the independent run right out right out the major. I started doing a lot of ship. You did it when it wasn't cool.

But because a lot of people, a lot of artists would leave a major and dwell on it before they even start to do anything. A lot of artists that instead of taking advantage that you were just on the major, the audience doesn't know that, and then just start putting out stuff. You can't take back the two million they spent on you on exactly. I just gotta go go hard from that. A lot of artists that a lot.

I've seen a lot of artists that were dope, as I'm talking about dope, and they get shell and you never heard from them again. They don't even wrap them more. I I was not gonna let that happen to me. So, um, let's go back to Chris Litty. One of the things, like I said, Chris Lottie gave me tough love and he made me want to prove things to him. One of the first things that I did. I was the first dude to do a mix tape. Nobody had mix tapes. I was like an album the artist mix tape. Nobody

did that before me. They people don't want to give you my credit, but it's out there. The factor is out there. Got do it. Look, nobody was doing mix tape. I came out that mon Tylaway joint way back. So so by the time Survivor Ellis Tour came out, Chris Lottie wanted me to go on the tour onyx MX on Fire like scortch So I went on that. I went on that. I tried to get on the door just so you know. Yeah, so I went. I went

on that tour and I was killing it. You can see the foot is online for some of the shows. So when we go to places like I mean when we first went to Chica, go on Detroit, Apollo, You and Foxy and that's when Freeze came out and was looking crazy. I've seen that. So we did though we did the uh we did this survival It was tour. I went across the country with no album out, with no single out, but people knew the words to my songs from that mixtape. So when I go to Chicago,

I keep it real. I probably told you this before. When I went to Chicago, I was like, Chicago and Detroit, I'm gonna say I'm sick because I don't want to perform. I was scared. I was like, cause I don't got nothing. Now these people are not gonna know me, They're gonna probably boom me. I was scared, and then I said, I'm just gonna do it. I got on stage in Chicago, I probably got one of the I probably got the second ladd of emotion of ovation at night, and I'm like, wow.

So we go to Detroit. I'm getting love too. So oh yeah. So I'm like, people like, I got your album. I'm like, we're just talking about and they showed me in the mixtape. They looked at my mixtape like it was an album. That's how I got big in Lon then too. But also because deaf jams. Back in the days, record companies you probably noticed because you was a DJ, they would send your music out. Sometimes they would send your whole album. I send dad tapes. I got mad

Dad tapes of Cormega Dad tapes. They would send your music and there was sometimes overseas they would give you them your whole album, because they gave my whole album. So by the time I go to London. I went to London, they had my home. They're like, yo, yeah they made this song. I'm like, I've seen't even know. I didn't know the name. So so yeah. So from doing that mixtape, that's how I traveled the country, and that's how I knew I had a buzz. And that's

what I'm telling Chris. I'm like, yo, bro, and Chris like you sure like it ain't like Chris is like, Yo, don't let your like, don't let your man's just like gash you like, because we need people that donnather recks. I'm like, Chris, I'm telling you that other people like your Chris, I ain't other people like your Chris. I've seen them selling Mega's mixtape and in a car lots and I was getting my car then. So the buzz starting. But once I did that Survival the Illus tour, you

couldn't tell me nothing. I've seen it. I rocked Apollo, Bro. It's on video. You canna saw it. So so all across the country, I never got booed. It was love everywhere with no album out and no single that's unheard of. That's when I wanted to get off. That's why I got off Death Chant. When I came back from that tour, I got off the label. I said, why you because because they had no plans for me. Bro if if if I'm a I'm a I'm a businessman, and I put you on the road with no single and you're

killing it. Almost when soon did you come at from that tour? We're starting, we're starting playing in your album. I came back and there's no plans And to the Russell Simmons is even like, you know what the fund is going on with Mega Ship? Shout out to Russell. Russell Simmons was like, what's up with Mega ship too? I don't know, I don't know what that means. But oh he said, he called it le, he called he's dead. He came to the tour and seen me with his eyes.

He's seen that ship that said. He was like, Yo, he loved the song My Time of Diary. Wow. So it's like I'm like wrapping Russe is a hip hop like he really you know what I'm saying, a matter of fact, I played myself part me for saying the N word. He's a hip hop dude to say the word neither. Yeah. So anyway, so after that tour, when I've seen they had no plans for me, I said, I can't be here no more. And the last straw. Unfortunately, when when it violated UM compilation compilation came out, I

was only on one song. I took offense to that because I'm huh, I think I was, But you want violated management, I'm gonna violate the records. Damn, I only got one song. So how y'all you not how y'all building me up? So I was like, I was like, just too much going on. There's too much, Like they're not prioritizing me. So I was. I went up there and I was like, yo, you know what saying. So you left depth jam and violated at the same time,

it's the same thing, but violated. It was violated death jams. So I went to Kevin. I went to Kevin Loos and I went to Kevin los office. At first, I told Christenam what I wanted. Yeah, that's he was fat it continue. I went to Kevin and I spoke to him like a man, and I said, yo, I told him I wanted to get off the label. And I said, because, um, y'all, y'all, y'all not help y'all. I said, nothing, nothing on the

shelf is gonna there's nothing sustainable on the shelf. Like if I'm on the shelf, you don't have no plans for me. And I said, every day you come to this office, you're driving in a nice car, and you drive into your nice house. I said, I want nice things too. I said, I want to live my life and I want to create as an artist, I asked him, and I asked him like a man. I said, all my years of being an artist here, I've never let my street affiliation or strength conflict with my professionalism as

an artist. I said it just like that to him. So I basically gave my off. He couldn't refuse, and speaking him was right outside of a little bit so so um and respectfully. Yeah, I got my release after that, and they gave me money. They gave me like a more than free and clear. Yeah, they gave me like a I guess, like head hairs to hold you down because you're not you know, you're not gonna be signed anymore, so you couldn't sign somewhere immediately I could sign somewhere.

I just they made me sign something where I couldn't sue them because they did a lot of funk ship. So that's how I got off a death chamce. But um, when I got off, UM, shout out to my man Beamy. Bammy flew me out to California. Warner Brothers was gonna give me seven hundred thousand fantastic story. Let's keep that's on strength of Beammy. Benny took me out there. Beny always believed that me, Bemmy was in jail, me and everything. Yeah, so matter of fact, I had this note my calm

right now. But um, I ain't got his number now, I said, if I had, I would call him. Um. So yeah, I had a situation there. But Warner Brothers, that's when Warner Brothers was going through this restructuring ship and if you know about when the labels have mergers, everything stops. So I would have been on the shelf again. And in this rap game, you can't be on the shelf for four years and then ship for yes, you've done after that. So I didn't want to just I

didn't want to do that. So I said, you know, what. We didn't do that because they was going through their merger thing. I didn't want to wait, I was, I was. I was impatient at that point. I wanted to come out t VT, but Records again, tvt Okay was gonna sign me Steve Gottli. Yeah, so here's a crazy thing. They had little John with there. Right, so here's a crazy thing. This is when I lost respect for death jams music, anything that you hold on to, it appreciates.

My deal was signing nine six two d fifty. Remember I was the first rapper to get that quarter million dollar day. That was a back. That was a bad Yeah. That was So when I went to t VT, there was like, what was your deal? I was like two fifty. There's like all right, cool. So now being at I was on the shelf for like four four years, they should they should take a settlement, like if your deal was for two fifty, check this one fifty or whatever? Right this when this when and this one. I knew

that they keep saying the shelf. I don't understand the show. The show was like being helped up. They're not putting the mouth and not releasing them. Okay, that's that's if you see you later. May people come back to you. So that happens to a lot of hard happens with a lot of tax label funked up. Yea. So this this is when I this one I had Now, when I got off death Jams, I was I didn't have interues with them. I was still cool with them. You

know what I'm saying. I'm cool with them now. Obviously I'm gonna be for them, But at this moment, I don't know who. Is that a matter of fact that people have that I think? You know what? Sorry, I went to Crazy, went to fun he quit his job. I was here, I was not here. No, the Indian guy, I didn't know why he was in there. I was like, this is not the coaching. Sorry. So I went to far No, he was nuts. So this one and this one, and that's when I realized the industry is fucked up.

T v T gave me the Swedish deal for them in the world. They was giving them back the whole two hundred fifty thou dollars to jam. Yes. De j said no, we want three hundred and fifty thousand. Yeah. My lawyer was like, that's unheard of. I've never seen nothing like that music depreciate. That's how I learned music depreciates from a lawyer. I didn't know that. He's like he was on the shelf for like five years. The music. They that's crazy. They want the three hundred and fifty

thousand instead of two hundred and fifty thousand. With their losses that they had with each other. What lawsuits something t VT and death jam had crazy lawsuits that her job being at Maybe I don't know. I don't know. I know I was pissed. I'm like, how the fun? They're gonna trust me three a hundred thousand more than my deal was for for five year old albums, So you gotta stop picking up for me? Man, come on,

come on you black them ow I'm black? You know? Ship? Oh, come on, I got you, bro, I got you, marry come on. The guard not said come on, ain't drinking. Look we got the case good. This is beautiful on me here, my guy? How good ship? It's me. It's I'm working up. I'm working up. Okay what am I doing? Where you at? I'm not I'm not I'm okay. Okay, Yeah,

this beautiful. That's a good barning hair. Right. You know what I'm saying, beautiful moment right, this is love right love like when we first started kicking it again when I responded when I wrote something on Instagram for the first time, which people up. The first thing I wrote was unconditional love because this ain't this ain't conditions, son, I told you like a man says, I don't care about the firm. It's all goodhead. But I can't out my man, he said, you know what I'm saying. So

it's like, it is what it is. This is beautiful right here, and you're gonna take a sip. I can't even hit. I can't. I can. It's gonna be very philosophically and intelligent and ship like that already. See Yeah, look to y'all man pace bro, you'll you think, brother, thank you man? What love ye know this is? That was beautiful. You gotta take a sip, don't, man, Yo,

that was beautiful when you take commercial break. This is a break right now if you want, I'm I can I go hold it down, man, This is very important and mega I'll do shots, but he ain't doing he ain't even doing a drink. I'll do one shot though, I'll do one shot in the building. That's my check with the name of the podcast. Full up the pull up, make sure you'll check that motherfucker out. But all right, Mega, I'm bouncing all around. But let's talk about Prodigy. Okay, no,

hold up, we're gonna talk about Prodigy. We didn't finished the three fifty part. Okay, let's go three fifty listen. Anyway, they raised it the three fifty blunt but paid for it, so that killed that deal, right. So, like I said before, sometimes things that happened are supposed to happen, so you can't get upset with it. So when they raised the three fifty, I was like, funk the Testament album. I got mad and I made The Realness album so that

shil never happened. I've never had an album called the Realness. That's why I ain't even mad at that. That can't be mad. Are we supposed to make? I think he's all right, let's go to them now, let's take it. It's a product. Okay, let's go to project you what was your relationship with Prodigy? Me and Prodigy was cool? That was my guy. Um Actually, I'm gonna go through my phone. Yeah, you got notes. I love your notes. I don't got a note from that one. Um, I

love your notes. By the way, I'm doing that from now on. I ain't gonna lie. You gave me my best complement. I told you that, right, I said, that's my one of my favorite combuments. You said, you're winning. You're learning on the job, but you're winning, and I love that. That's one of my favorite compliments. If your people ain't motivating you, you know what I mean? That questionable? So so you're going for a prodigy quote right now? No, no, no,

I'm I'm looking for something. I'm gonna see if it's in my phone. Sure type of time, I'm on, No, I go. I cut myself already established that in the camera. So I thank you. I respect you're protected me, but I already stabblished. Listen, I cut myself shaven negative. This is what it is. Man, Here we go. Okay, Oh you went to see him in jail. Yeah, I'm on that kind of time with my people. Ah, do you believe that he died for eggshells? I don't know what

to believe with that. That was from that was that was that was kind of weird. You ever seen that video? They said that he was about to put out a documentary about Luminarity. And that's the reason why. I mean, I just gotta ask because that's been a theory that I heard so many things. But I just found it weird that he choked on the egg. I don't know what happened, but I just found it weird. And I know queensd ain't been the same as far I'm talking

about the music. It just feels different without him here, Like it's unfair almost, because like when you look at it, like look how we're vibing like a madness. Like look, last time we did an interview, he was like, would you do a que queens Bridge too? And I was like nah. But now it was like me and Son is on. You know what I'm saying. You just had nibs on the phone me and you come on. We great. So it's like, imagine Prodigy, you know what the crazy

ship is? That was the actual I had. You know, I had seven hundred and fifty thousand for us to perform for the some sort these prints. Dude house went and I had every everyone said yeah but Pete wow. At one point everyone said yeah but Pete at one point and oh ship, Now I just calling back. Wait on FaceTime? Where do you call it back? Hold on, I'm just going on. Yeah, beautiful moment, A good look. This is a good look. This is a good look moment.

You'll know if you get thinking to drink you a bad I'm trying to you know what, take a drip and take Sas for the culture that YO, hold up. You know what I gotta say, say it, Son, I love you, I'm proud of you, and I hope you get that fucking grammy many No, you know what we're from. Need to be in that conversations exactly. That's That's what I'm saying. Your brockout, I love you, love you, I love you. Let's go. Oh man, this is a legend. Dary. Man,

this legend Dary. I don't even know who's talking about PROD. Let's finished PROD to you. Okay, take this drink. I'm not drinking no more. Okay, Wes fifty five six. So I'm gonna finish your ship. Don't worry about God. Tell j you approved, man, people that jay Z approved. I gotta make a function Jay Jay. Let me rock him one of their shows before. Yeah, let's talk about that. I'm in wherever you want to go provacy. I want to. And then I showed you the property picture. You went

to see him in jail. Yeah, I ain't even gonna see poem the jail. I'm a foul nigger, but I paid this compensation. But I paid this commisation. So, like I said, probably he's a good brother, and uh he's missed and it just don't feel the same without him. Certain that you said that in certain instances, you know what I'm saying. I wish he was here and I hope, I hope Havoc knows that. You know, everybody is fully behind him and we want him to carry on that

tradition and that legacy. You know what I'm saying. All Right, So this is probably you probably the only person that's qualified to answer this question right now. Yeah, I really need them. It was a big discrepancy his murrle. He had a mirror and then his mirrle got violated. You're probably the only person that can answer this, and I need you to be the same way you've been in this whole interview. What was going on with that? I don't know what the fun was going on with that

that answer as well. I mean, when when I first heard about it. I thought it was like I couldn't even believe it. I was like, wow, It's like, when you think about it, you could be the most despised criminal in the world. You're in the FBI's most wanted list. Soon as you're dead, you're not despisedble more. It's over in the mafia. You can have a war with this whole other family. So as you're dead, it's like some people from that family might even pay respects. So it's

like that ship. You're an artist. From an artist perspective, that ship made Queen's Bridge look very bad because I'm an artist and I know what people are saying around the world, and I know what executives were saying, and you probably heard it too. Nobody wanted to funk. That ship made the whole that made Queen Bridge the movement look bad, and executives was mad, fans was mad. It was bad. So it's like the man is dead, and it's like, I don't know what to say about that.

I wasn't there, I didn't do it. I don't got nothing to do with it. And happened three times twice twice. Excuse me, you're right, I know, I just wish everybody. I wish everybody would uh will grow from things I wish? Um. Yo, you know what I noticed, Yo, When ego takes the

will you never get to your destination? Bro. And it's like sometimes, um, we gotta learn when to put our ego down and just and just be men or just we gotta have more empathy also and not pride because that was one of my flaws as a man at one point. And it's like, sometimes you gotta question yourself. I questioned myself, what is my pride got in me?

Because you're proude is only gonna validate you while you in the when you're in the thriller, when you're in the heat of the moment, somebody violating, it's like boom, yeah what But pride is that instigated, that's never around when consequences come around. So proud to make you do something and in the next day regret takes over the conversation. Regret you ever do something, And then the next day you'd be like, damn, I wish all the time that why, why why we can't avoid why we can't nit that

avoid the regret. So that's the thing we gotta do as men like dudes gotta put their egos aside because because um, because that ship that shouldn't getting you nowhere. And that's that's another reason why I'm at peace now, because my ego don't control me no more, you know what I'm saying. And at the same time, it's like, there's a time to be dangerous, there's a time to be militant, but there's always a time to be a

thinker like thinks the most dangerous people. Yo, bro, I went to the shooting range and I realized I shoot better now than I used to. You know, people from the hood. You were from the hood. Think about this average dude from the hood can't even shoot. That's why people get that's why there's so many accidents to shoot this. People get a gun, they're just like, yeah, what and they're just ready to shoot. They don't even know how

to shoots. Very true, real talk. So there's a lot of things, there's a lot of ghetto things that we need to spoil. A minute, as a felon, you could do that, yeah, but oh, let's let's clean yourself. I haven't been in jail. I haven't been in troubling up with twenty joints, I'm so after while you ship is after while you has got one here though, leave it along at the wild. So when you get in trouble

with the law, you got you cook. You're even gonna keep that staying on your shipt or you're gonna try to clean it up or so It's like me, I never knew I was gonna be worldwide like that as an artist. So now I'm starting to travel the world and I'm starting to have problems getting into have problem get into Canada like that. Yeah, they don't play that as you know, until you get out of here. Made. They kicked me out twice Australian, so I talk to

get into us. It took me like three months to get in there, like doing PaperWorks and all this stuff. So it's like now I'm like, damn, Like trouble was overrated. Think about it. That's hord pride. You in the hood. You wallet, Oh that's such and such. He get busy. But what is it getting busy get you? It can't

get you real estate, it can't get you business investments. Like, to be honest with you, I don't even need gangsters with me because anything a gangster could do already could do myself and and and a real man, I don't even want to put my people in those situations because a lot of times those end up being extra you end up being accountable for somebody else, you know what I'm saying. So it's like that's a that's a part

of having power control being responsible with it. So it's like, I try not to get in stuff because I know when I'm capable, and I know how my people come. But I don't want my people getting into nothing. So now it was like, all right, how can I clean up my my ship? So I started staying out of trouble war more and more. That's that's another mesic conception. Omega's going back and forth to jail. That's bullshit, you know that ever since you met me? Have I ever

been met to jail? You know what I'm saying. So it's like I'm trying to show people, especially the young dudes, that look, I know why people say that's because you have one of the best shoutouts the jail nigger could ever have. What's up with called Mega? Did you see him y'all together? What was he talking about? Plus now it ain't just that was talking to Yeah, that's one of the best jail shoutouts ever. But it is a long time ago. Man, I was, I need a home

shout out now. I want these dudes to know. I want these young dudes. You know, when I really started, what really humbled me to Nori seeing young dudes look up to me, Like there's a bunch of core magas out there. Like there's dudes named Camga. There's people with my my face tattooed on that body. There's people with my quotes tattooed on You've probably seen it on my Instagram. One thing I did a page with like eight different posted, like eight different people with my That's crazy to see that.

So it's stuff like that that's humbling. And it's like also traveling the world. Like I said, Yo, I went to Haiti. I've been to Uganda, Africa at the time. I did you start with Haiti, man, and you got my friend gas stuff right now he's back. He just turned. You performed in Haiti. I performed in Haiti. I did it. I did it. I did a song. I did a tribute song for Haiti. All the proceeds went to Haiti.

Um you know what I'm saying. Actually, there's somebody in the house right now, and Haiti that that came from us, our contributions and our and our hard work and our hard work, you know what I'm saying. So I put in work there. When I went to Haiti Um there were still people buried in the street when that earthquake. Think there was still people under the rubble and it was it was devastating. I've never seen nothing like that

in my life. Only in even COVID. Even the COVID ship that's make that it makes from the COVID was like because COVID and east Hurst, that ship hurt me. You've seen those fitches and I didn't go there personally, but when I've seen East Hearst, that's that's my hospital. Look if I get funked up, I go to St John's Umhurst. But at least the hospital still there. But the bodies was around the see that happy both. I was so scared. Family. A matter of fact, moment of

silence to everybody. You want to open the bottom he still because I feel like we need this as the moment, Like I feel like you should open You've got a drink it, but I feel like you should to see if you still got champagne skilled, I don't got Come on you quiz fridge, do it? Cat? Somebody over there for me, open it, let me talk the talk for you. Oh this thing is then tap the bottom. This is old school. My father, my father, my father was raised in massy projects too. So that's for jack. So what

was you saying, Haiti? Haiti? Humble with me? Because they imagine the White House with a whole at the top crumpling the White House where the president. They got a white house that looks like I was. It looked like it looked like a heart movie, like like one of those movies when when the bomb hit it like it looks like that's not it's not funny, it's it was talking like their buildings was toppled. They were still there was people who was like still looking for their family

members like that in the ground. There was mad bodies everywhere. But the thing that made me go crazy and and really look at myself was like these people was still harmonious amongst each other. They wasn't mad, They wasn't better. The kids were still playing and I'm like, wow, we're over here fighting over somebody stepping on our sneakers or over bullshit, and these people got nothing and they're more happy than us with money. That ship makes you really

look at yourself. When I came home, I stopped wearing jewelry for a while because I felt like a clown, like these people have nothing and they're happy than us. So, you know, that really over my eyes to certain things. And then when I went to Uganda, you know that, Yeah, that was a beautiful experience for me also, And you know, um, when I do these kind of things, I really don't, you know, I don't you know how people do think they publicize. I don't publicize it because it's from the heart.

And if there's pictures, that's pictures. But I'm not old in with it. But when I went to you Ghana was a building experience. I've seen how happy that people were. I've seen like how over here America we are gluttonous in our ways. Like you you go overseas, you know, you never know. It's like you go to the store overseas and you'd be like, let me get a large shoulder, and it's like this size or whatever. But over hey, I lodged like this. So we over we over consume,

We're over consuming. They don't even tip when you tipped them. Sometimes they don't even know what that is. They actually take it personal, like I tipped somebody there. They don't. I gonna tell you what this is with this ship, Like poultry side to be real size and we got a monster. You get a chicken over there, you think it's a pure first I'm in London. I said, your cows are sick. He said, no, you're six And I was like, oh, because you know, I'm used to seeing

big cows. You ever seen the cow in London. I'm sitting skinniest ship found ship. Nah, you're right. Certain certain countries they call our food Franken Start food GM food. Yeah, they called the Franken Star full look it up. So certain things over here a FDA are cleared. They cleared certain things that we eat that we should need. Should we trust the FDA or no? No, no, okay, he's defenditive or not. So let's change it up a little. The firm most legendary group one of the legendary groups,

y'all ever felt like that was an official group. I don't. I don't have that conversation, Like you gotta understand, I'm mentally removed myself from that situation when I was removed from it, I removed myself from it mentally. No, But I'm saying, do you ever think it could have lived up to the potential that it could have? Uh? I think if it was done properly, it could have been nutty.

But I think I think Dr Dre was too was too modest and humble, because you gotta understand, it was a dr J DR dret with school and then track masters got involved, so and then there were multiple labels involved. So whoever, because you was signed A death dam Fox was signed, don't don't don't include me. I wasn't on an album, so I don't count. I wasn't on an album. I'm not on one song. I'm on Nazi's album. I'm want Affirmative Action. It's on it was written, so so

I'm on the that's the most popular firm song. It's the most popular firm so I'm on that. But that's on A Nolzie's album, not on the firm out. So when the firm Alpum came, I didn't have no input. I didn't have no I don't have nothing to do with that, So I don't really consider myself a part of that, and I don't. I just mexically removed myself from when I was removed from it. I removed myself from it in a in a good way, like we're all still cool. But I was like, alright, cool, I'm

not a part of that. And and even with my career as I moved forward, you know what I'm saying, the way I stayed like in my own lane, whereas I never looked at it as a real group because more than a group. Excellent, excellent, because if it's a real group. Think about this for a second. Wou Tang say somebody from Wuchang comes over the album, you know you're gonna hear people from Wu Tang on that album. If stoves P come out of the album, you're gonna hear Jaya and she go on it, if she come

out of Jinks, you know what I'm saying. If she comes out of the album, you're gonna hear uh thousand kiss on it. You know what I'm saying. So, and it's all gonna seem familiar if they all work in unison. So we didn't do that, you know what I'm saying. So I didn't like I'm not only No, I'm just saying I don't consider like it was a collective like he said, because the group. If it was a group, it was like group chemistry, we'd continue working together, but

we didn't. I was never on nobody's album step Nas think about Yeah, So, but how was you an A relationship? Yeah? He seems cool. Yeah, you never was on I was never on the A C album exactly. That's what I'm saying. He was on one of my before I put them on my I put A C on my last album, my last album, full album, Mega Philosophy. He's on it. Was it weird when you and NAS didn't speak? How was you and A's and Foxy's relationship because we didn't haven't spoke about Foxy at all once. So how was

when you and as whatever happened from y'all relationship. Did it ever get spicy between like A Z and now? It's always cool with everybody. It's just that me as a person, I just gave people their space, you know what I'm saying. I gave I gave A, I gave A his face because at the end of the day, now put them on, so I gotta respect that loyalty. So um. But other than that, he was cool, like it was like, it's all love, you know what I'm saying. And um, we did shows together, etcetera, cetera. Fox We

was were tight. So it's like it's never been no, there's never been no fallout, you know what I'm saying. Even I even showed Nature love you know what I'm saying, um, um and um. That was that. But I don't I really even like he said that was a collective. Is it plans for the video for this this record? Well I can't really speak on that because that's not protest, So I can't say, yeah, well, you know I don't like it, man, you never know, I feel like it should. Man,

it's it's time. Man. It's one of the best, you know, fucking uh collaboratives, whatever the fun you want to call it. Um, you made history, one of the best. It's one of the best unions. And I think it was probably that's why when we had Nature here, let make She explained that he was not the original group member, but Nature. On his Instagram, he put up a different kind of post.

This is what the people wanted, and you know he had a big ended up big enough, no big enough himself like oh hold up, what wait wait, put up because because on one of these shows, one of these podcasts, I mean one of these he was now did they asked about him so and then he was like, yeah, this is what the people wanted. He shouldn't have did that. They should have did it. He should have just chilled and did it the humble way, you know what I'm saying,

because like that is what causes division. You know what I'm saying. It makes people be like word and then you know, he shouldn't have did it, should have just should have just smoothed it in. You know what I'm saying. Okay, I'm sorry. I just because because I'm a little green to this, So can you elaborate a little bit, because

I don't under I don't understand. So what he shouldn't have made no noise like that because he should have just been calm and smooth about it and let let things fall into place, because when you do things like that, then it and it leaves people to be divisive or people be like word word or exact. They could create riffs. So it so it seems like that he was against that. I don't know whether because on your show. He seems

to sad. He see that, he seems to sid But his post, his post was like troll, like, you know what I'm saying. And it's like on your show he said he happy for Mega. So but in your post you didn't say that. You just said you know what I said. So it's like you don't leave it up for people. They sell as when you look at me, when look you notice nobody asks what with you in nature? Because I made it known that I'm cool with him.

I put him on one of my albums, and there's nobody asked me about him the more as far as a riff because I made sure people see that. So if you're funk with somebody, funk with them. So, um, I think that's just a cool dude. I just think you man, Yeah, I think he's a cool dude. Shout out to nature, shout out to his bro um and uh. I just think he should have handled that different. I think sometimes we all need Uh. You think do you

think I baited him? No, you be asking one question that was a slight babe, but he didn't go for that. When I asked him to quote the line. Yeah, the only reason when I asked the quote the line I'm like, just do this to you face to face. It's because I remember them taking your name out, Oh say my name and the record nor stars for ship. But that's the only reason why I just wanted to establish that. But yeah, I wasn't. I wasn't. I wasn't. I wasn't. Mean this is history and that ship is so old.

Like at the end of the day, I'm over it. Like I'm so over that ship. Like me and nature is cool. I haven't, Like I look back at that ship, like what yo, listen, I showed nature so much luve the only thing I never had no issue with with nature. Only issue I have with nature recently. It's not even a major issue. It's just like a where do we stand? Bro?

Like is you my bro? Or is you not? Like because um, when I came out with see this is the thing about Queen's Bridge, all the rappers and and I'm gonna include you because you're a part of the movement. There's a thing called mutualism. I love this word. Oh, we have to all be mutually benefitial to top movement because the stronger we are, the stronger everyone is. So I'll be looking sometimes I see things and I don't even get mad. Sometimes it hurts. It hurts. It's like

hurts or offends me. Maybe heard is a better word. It just makes me feel like damn am along, Like who's really with me? Because it's like like I support everybody. You know what I'm saying, Like I'm wanta drink Champs now, but when drink Champ was new, when when you know what I'm saying. I came on the show and you didn't even have to ask me twice. You know what I'm saying. And then it's like you my phone, my my number is always open for you to talk or

for advice or for whatever input wherever. And you gave me my best compliment ever. That's my favorite compliment ever when you said you learning on the job, but you win it. Yeah, thinking no, I'm just saying. So the problem with Queen's Bridge Artist is every a lot of people have a go go every man for him self mentality, and that hurts the bottom line because if everybody's going for theirselfs, I'm gonna be I regardless because I'm good.

So the people that's good, it's gonna be good. But the people that ain't good they're gonna suffer the most, so being being for self, it's gonna hurt you, and it's gonna hurt you in a negative way. One that's gonna help you because if if, if everybody's moving as one, then we win in So it's like why so like and I can name every like. I came out of my EP having posted it right the mega EP. I came out with it twice, so I did one limited

version and I stopped it. I just did that like for the fans, right, I put it out having having posted on his page shout out to having even Capone posted it. I was like, okay, so I d M nature, I said, yo, post my arm, post my joint, and I got you when your joint comes out, you know what, sounding like we just gotta we gotta show each other love. And then that ship just said seeing m yea no because I'm just doing I'm trying to. I'm just selling it out. I'm just I shouldn't have to because you

know that's rare. But you know what, Listen, I told this a couple of my friends, oh this weekend, Like I'm trying to be a better friend, trying to be a better person. So sometimes I would like you to tell me if this is something that you don't thinking I'm doing. I'm not saying that I'm pointing to you right now, but I'm telling this to all my friends if this is something that you want me to be. The thing is, sometimes I'm so busy. I'm not sitting

there in pinpointing anything. But I want everyone in this room to know I like to be a better friend. I want you. I want to be your best friend. Like I want you to sit there and say, that's one of my best friends right there, because I know I'm one of the best people in the world. So if my immediate people don't know that I'm fucking up, I ain't got that it's gonna be your worst friending like they're gonna be your worst thing. I'm gonna be this. He's not gonna be my friend. But you know I'm

saying that you've got more notes. I respect you. No, no, no, I might might but no, but but you know what you're saying is not It couldn't be just a Queensbridge problem. That's a national problem. That's a's not worry about everybody I'm worried about. That's what most of our society and know what's what's pervasive in our the world right now. But that's really irrelevant to what you're saying is right, But I'm talking about and wrapped with our When I

look at Ultang, I look at Queenbridge. If if if you gotta come out sign, Ray Crown is posting it. If Ray Carn come out with something expected, Deck is posting it. But it's a movement. Queenrid is a movement. That word empathy is really big, bro, And that's that's when you put yourself with somebody else's shoes. So you gotta before you get mad at people, you have to weigh every option. Like maybe at the end of the day, I'll respect every artist. And the bigger you are, the

more busier you're gonna be. So if you think Norris just sitting around waiting for you to text him to promote your ship, you bugging because he's an artist and he's a he's an entrepreneur right now, you think he purposely ignoredes. I think people. I think people don't really respect rap or they don't really respect what we do because the videos and ship make it look so easy. They don't realize all the ship that we do, and then we live your life too because we have a family.

You have a family, We have family too. We don't just wrap or do what we do. And in free time we have to cook dinner too, and we have families and we have regular ship we gotta do. Plus we have lit business, so we be busy. But people don't see that, Oh you're acting funny or sons acting different, na everything. Everything that's life. That's progression. I'm I'm adapting to new ship. So if you don't contact me, I'm not a mind reader, so I'm not gonna know what's

in your mind. But if you contact me and say, yo, can you do this and I don't do it, then you can get upset. But maybe you can't get upset because it's really up to us. Don't always try and get high every episode. It never happens. It's really up to us to decide what we want to do. Like, people gotta stop trying to guilt trip people into make it like success is nothing to feel guilty about. And people gotta stop trying to make it seem like they're entitled.

There that sense of entitlement pushes people away because people will act like you gotta keep it real. But keep it real isn't one of the things where you conform it to benefit yourself. Keep it real, keeping it real. If Nory's busy and nor he's taking care of his wife and his family, and he's doing what he's supposed to do for his life and for his legacy, he's fucking keeping it real. God damn so. So a lot of times people they take things too personal without your communication.

That communication, If you're not communicating, ship is gonna be funked up. We live, we're living in an information era. You're gonna have social media. You see so much ship in the flick of overhead, So so are we supposed to remember that? Like you're telling him that this dude does a show every week and he does he's record and he's doing she's doing this, like everybody's busy. Like I really write my music. So when I'm writing my music, I'm into that. I'm picking beats, I'm yo, I'm I'm

the custodial parent. That means I'm home every day with my daughter. You know what I'm saying. Like I speak to teachers, I do laundry, I do regular ship too. So it's like I write my music, I design close, I write books. I do so I'm not sitting around ignoring you. It's like I'm busy like people is busy. So I don't get too caught up in people's emotions because that's their emotion. They there and tied it to their emotions. But don't don't overwhelm me with your expectation.

I respect that. I'm not. I'm gonna name a couple of things. You tell me what this means to you. Okay, ready, I love that. That was only cute the realness my first album. That was That was me. Um, that was me exceiling. That was me after being held back and after me being held back, that was me just letting it all out. A proud moment for me. Is it? Oh? The true meaning? True, true meaning, true meaning. One of

the most impactful independent albums in history. First independent album to get a Source Award, m I got a SOD I'm the first. Also fucking calling Busyo tomorrow, UM shift a hundred thousand, but it did more a glance. We didn't old money to everybody. UM show growth, show growth, the diversity of the album. UM gotta impact. Underground Music Awards gave me an Impact Award for the most Impact on the underground. So the album was like a stellar

like Stella Stellar Achievement album. Mhm. The Testament. Testament would have been my first album. Adversity, Adversity and Obstacles, Um for something I'm proud of, Worn and Race, born and Raised. Arguably, sometimes I think that's my best album. Um, the fans gonna take this person. They gotta if you really, I think sometimes I think that's my best album. I think that album boring Race can stand told to told with any of my albums. Um. That's the first album I

recorded with Premier. My song Making Clears on there, my song Dirty Game is on there, the song Journey with Lord Professors on their UM, the song with Pete Rocket is on it. I got a song called Rapture on there, where I had told her that's crazy. Um, I think that's one of my deep I think at one point that was my favorite album. I don't know it's it's definitely. I think that's my most underrated album, Race for sure. Okay, Mega's Philosophy, Mega produced My Lost Professor and I think

even Hazard. It sounds mixed a couple of joints has it sounds? Has it it sounds? Mixed the entire album? Oh okay um that has it? Lord Professor gave me, gave me my props from the album. Has it set something today? Before you got here? He's like, Lord Professor told me on that album you became a producer Mega, because we finished the album ourselves without Law Professor. Law Professor was gone and I needed that album out, so I added some of the instrumentation. I added love of

instrumentation to some of the songs. What does the instrumentation mean? It means like real musicians like Saxophone want a lot of the people like me. You know, that's special education. Some of the sequences, yea, the extra sounds. There's a song called more when I'm talking about people of color, added some kind of call not like that, but I'll see where you're going. I added like, uh, congas congos

in there. That's for like the Cubans and and the other Latin brothers that are that are from our culture. So I personally added that in he knows. So that album is when I I really like Law Professor, Mega, you became a producer on that album. So that album was my comeback album. That album charted. But then and then right after that, you hit Hit the Mega produced by the street Runner street Runner. Yeah, right, yeah. Street Runner is a beautiful human being. He's a humble giant,

incredible producer. He's a great producer, but he's a humble giant. You've got a guy that works with like platinum artists, gold artists, so all the time, and he made time for me and he was a big fan. But he didn't just say it in his action showed he showed it. So, um, I'm greatly appreciative to street Runner for that. Um. Yeah, and let's loose two compilations. You also had Legal Hustle Forever, rolf Ever don't count. That don't count now, ro Forever

doesn't count Forever. It's just like pretty much the best of Mega and on I put suit two discs in there. I put one CD disc was like the best of Mega, so it would be like the best of Mega mixtape, and then the other disc was pretty much me doing over some of my songs. Listen, as you say disc, they're like, what are easy talking about? So one like yeah, So basically one disc was the best off and the other disc was me doing songs over with a lot

of band So that was just the best stuff. So I don't count that as a project and I'm gonna stop. I'll probably stop um release of that soon. That was like something for the fans. That's the beautiful thing. But only stuff you could do what you want. You can do what you want. Legal hustle though, that was one of my I think that was one of the That was one of the top independent compilations ever too. Uh you think about it, that album like for me that I've never been on the major label. I look at

the yo. That album made jacka national my man, Jack of God blessed today by every legend. He was just a local rapper and I said, Yo, I'm gonna make you. I'm gonna make you like worldwide. Bro. I got real close with jacka too. You'll never ain't nobody in the bag say mega's that arrogant. You know what I'm saying. You see your post when um when he when he passed away her And that's what I'm saying, Like I'll be losing like I'll be close with people. No, I'm

not not. Yo. Yeah he was already that was he was cool. Now I'm talking about close like tears, like you know what I'm saying. So Jack, Jack come to New York. We stay in the same hotel like he when I'm in the Bay, we stay in the same hotel like like he's sleep in my room. Like he'll pull out the pull out couch. I gotta sweet. He's like we was like cousins. Yo. You know some people actually thought with his cousins. So when I did the Legal Hustle of compilation album, that was an album gonna

love this. I did the Legal Hustle compilation album because I was trying to help people get on and um. That was one of the projects. I did two projects where I was trying to help other people. And that also says a lot about my character because when I did these two albums, it was time for me to come out of the album. My fans wanted the mega album, and I gave him these projects. So I got lucky with Legal Hustle because it was a good album to

the people, and it helped introduce JACKA. That's the first album Mano was on. You know what I'm saying. He's on the song called Monsters ball um and Uh I had that's the first song think with MLP, ghost Face Body did. Um. It was just it was just a compilation helping me and I had new artists on there, and all the new artists that that I had on there, I planned on signing them, you know what I'm saying. So I was basically trying to build something to help people,

you know what I'm saying. That's why I did Legal Hustle and I mixed it with with Dope features. Out of your relationship with Punt Me and Pump was tight. Um. That was my guy. Um humble, dude love. He's a gangster. He's a tourist squad gangster. As you know because you know him. The dude love guns, love talking about guns. Um. One of the womanst people. Punt of me at the table right now eating. You walk in, He's gonna yo, He's gonna invite you to his meal, you know what

I'm saying. Loves rap, passionate about rap. If you did a song that he's like, he'll tell you your verse or he'll want to hear something like yo to me. Year's another cool dude. Many value. No, we never never tried about but he always said something like always wanted to impress me. But we never, he never tried about it. He was that type. Yeah, say something like you're ready, like you're cool. You know, he bullied his way with bad TV. He wasn't supposed to be on that. Yeah,

I heard that story. I was dope. We are. We got one joint it was it was a it was a song, but the song never came out, but it leaked on on a on a mixtape or something. You Me and Pine, But I wish he was a lot. I'm the first person I did something with her son. Yeah, Chris, Chris is on the um what's the other church? Your name? Bro? Forever? I put him on there. Yeah, So it was like I did something with his son because I felt I felt obligated, and I helped his wife when she was

doing UMU the sneaker thing. You know what I'm saying. Talk about your you and deal you got like to you and Deals seven. I did two joints with them. You gotta do You did a fuel, I like a poem one rock. Okay, we got champs as well. Let's go somewhere else where are we going? Loud Records Records? Last week? Now, let's talk about the new project. The new project, the new Project Mega or the next one that's coming up. The next one's coming up, next Mega,

Well Mega's out now. Oh ship, that's the one with the black blue, black barrown. It got like a moon in it. She gluten this on their havocs on the only two features. You're a coleptic um um. I think it's a dope, Am, it's a vibe. I don't know if you heard it because you're a busy man. Yeah, I don't even hear my own ship. But you heard it. No, I haven't heard it yet. I don't hear pros. I wish I had that out to play if I know. Do you got a new record? Do you want to

prevare this right now? You got some maga joints has come on? Release it up. We're gonna PIU right. We gotta do it. Since we were talking about Punt Speaker, let's speak. Since we're talking about Punt, I'll give y'all unreleased joint when I'm spitting some balls that Punt would appreciate. Gets a boss song, a boss song because I do that too. We had a ball too. We got racket. You got it. Let's go, baby, as I'm not gonna

lie you're making us matter fact. You turn up your mind turn up yeah, yea yeah, your mega let him have you. This is true fic domination. Our fuse dudes who trying to play me booze because I'm crazy and moved with the triangle fall back when I come through a Mike bang it except me and Mike creates a tight situations like it's a heavy burden for nicks with

light paper, but he with race. You to try to take it to how jases like when a rama rabbits are facing annihilation for thinking you close to me lyrically, I give you the poke and see you can only get from coach I leave. Who's a post to freeze when lines hit you like Patia attacking, I'm a sucker for roasting feast. Press your hopes and dreams. Okay, sleep restless interrupted by the breeze of voters weez the coach sweat make you soak the sheet, My ship go hard?

How the pen like work re least for better or work and see her deal with adversity. Since I was young, which was a blessing and curse to me, lessons I learned when deepa has diversity, be reflecting their killer instincts or I'm murdered beast, so put them on light support whenever the mics on them. Feel like a sniper on a mission. I'm striking you unite to come with tight the power of speed and agility. I terrifying a stoutish for d capability. Saying you willis me is a complete

waste of energy. My name rigged from the street to stay facility. It takes humility, face of time and skill. Be a real up still then you can pretell you me that are playing yourself consistently live your dream from covera tick the floor pizzas some expressive jeez. I'm in it to win it, but prepared mentally. It's clear my

skills are rare find of history. Will mention me is one of the nicest Lyrically, my high intensity right and ability roubles any king pound from pay Mike found around really d swatting my staff like humility, you really need to set your ass down when you can't. But real niggers speak even if you broke pay attention to me. I couldn't see passed the building from the bench in

the peace till I was willing to change America. Stand in the way of my further display came from a slug of brothers that ain't that folds yet your own friends are murky for way now the power wisdom and to learn from mistakes, so to seek and learning turn weakness of trap keeping it real has been replaced by keeping it fake and success it Yes more th for people who make it. The sweet of the taste, the

deeper the hate of the venoment. Will niggas be on that snaketion don't need to embrace them stink and be fat and will leave you and your people in day It fun trying to maintain. I proceeded to make more because lot of rabbit click out things they ain't do you want to welcome my shoes, don't forget those take clothes I paid duets. Perhaps you better, I wrapper stated the taptats for those who subtract. Ever the greatest lot of table ver sold and black and difference from Latin

and factotistics. Y'all people pack in prison. I'm a different club for real nigga who rapper lific listeners a witnesses still a lyrical captivism coma Gyptics and your but like Brandon Jinn, it sishon ain't gonna. I know how to handle critics. Didn't know what had it in me. Now they feel me like a freezing windows Eerie knocks up with Driven like a seller series. Another word funk with you heard respectus to hearing incredible lyrics severally written Megican

fit fire. You trying to tell y'all, old funker man, this cold motherfucking metals like there was my all these nonbelievers men still love the game? Do I still love the game? I still love the art. I don't love the bullshit the politics. I love the fans. I love the art. I don't love the politics and the nonsense everything else. When I'm on stage, like like you being around, I could be the quietest person in the crab, but when I get on stage is something. It just does

something to me. I love that feeling or being on stage, and I love creating rhyms and like pushing myself to uh to outdo myself and um not live off the past strength. Like at the end of the day, I like having a I love being underrated. That's my secret because when you underrated, people know you're good, but some people aren't. You aren't getting the credit you deserve and as long as I'm underrated, that's gonna make me go harder.

So it's like one thing I say about myself, like whenever I'm on a song, whenever I do a feature on somebody's project, I try to shine. And there's different ways to shine that artists need to learn. It ain't all about trying to outdo somebody in the song. You can shine without trying to outdo somebody. Just make the song good. So it's like, say what you want about me. But every single song that I'm on with a with a Dope Artist is one of the highlights of that album,

A front of Action. It was h and I see that song, Um three, I'm on the bench, how eating Checker Wings or French Fries? Mark Deep Murder Music, What's Your Poison? High Technology album? The High Tech album? All I need is you? Um, I'm not even thinking hard like every you know what I'm saying every time I'm on the show Disease Disease. That's that album is beautiful, beautiful album. So it's like when I'm on the song, I just try to stand out. I don't try to outshine.

So when the NAS called you, he didn't say that this is a firm record or did he say that. Well, like I said, we didn't talk about that. Once we started talking about the record, then it wasn't We didn't know what it was gonna be like until until we got everybody on it, because originally that would have been a naza Azy song. That was gonna be anaza As record originally. Yeah, so you're saying he wasn't even sure if he could get everybody on it, or maybe that

wasn't even a thought. That wasn't even really good thought. It's like, sometimes you're doing something you just want to take it, take it somewhere extra, like you know what, it'd be great if we could do this, add this to it. Yeah, so that's what happened with that. That was a nasa As record. And so when you got Diverses, you had na I didn't have nobody's first. That's the thing about it. That's what made it so dope. And I had to really create my I had to create

my own what's the subject matter? It's about this? So I was like, all right, cool, cool, cool, I vibed out. I thought about how a z rap, I thought about how everybody raps, and then you you um, took Foxy. You didn't know Foxy could possibly be on this as well. I'm the one. I'm not on contact down, so I know if she was gonna be on my side. I said, we didn't talk about hold on a minute. So when you got contacted, that's when you said, I'm gonna I

got Foxy too. Well I'm not. I think I'm the only one who had a number or something like that. I got our number two. Fuck it, so continue drops. So like yo, at the end of the day, nas Nas gets all the credit for that song because this credit. He gets credit for that song for a lot of reasons, from from humility standpoint, like think about this for a second. A lot of people when they have differences with somebody, even when you eat, when you squats, the differences like

all right, cool, that ship is over. But you know you know so. But he like, all right, that ship is over. I'm putting my guy on the song. You know what I'm saying. He didn't have to do that, especially at this point in his career. So for him to say, like who you are, come on, I gotta pick you up. I can't say that, but go ahead, continue. I like your aeologies now I'm just saying, that's what That's what I'm saying all of us, Like I like that an example. He set the tone, he set an example,

and it's like, um, that's what I'm like. People just gotta be humble, Like that's all I'm saying. Like Nature, that's why I wrote the thing on my on my my Instagram and it was in Nature. Text me and said thank you because I wrote some real ship. You know. It's like, you know, the song wasn't done to exclude Nature, was thought out all and there's you know, there's no there's no be for him or nobody has ill feelings to talk him in anything. They just it went full circle.

Did nobody said there's a firm album coming they might not be nothing. You know what I'm saying. It's like it's like a moment. Yeah, He's how non started, is how he wanted. You know what I'm saying. At the end of the day, what he does is what he does. It's him, you know what I'm saying. And at the end of the day, like no rapper has the relationship that me and him got, Nobody could take that away, Like you know what I'm saying, Like we grew up together.

You know what I'm saying, Like I got letters from him when I was in jail. He wasn't you know what I'm saying, Like he wrote me when I was in jail, Like you know, you know what I'm saying, Like we don't. We donet did a lot of ship together.

We laughed, we cried like we mourned the same people, we cheered for the same people we have even when you know what I'm saying, even when even when, even when, even when we had issues, even when we had issues, like you couldn't come to me, like you're about to do something to him, you know what I'm saying, it would have been a problem for you, or like if you if you talk about me like people talk about me the nas you think you think he ain't gonna

tell me, Like you know what I'm saying, even even when it wasn't cool, And it's like, uh so, it's like sometimes you need sometimes you realize how important somebody is to you when you go through adversity. And I never realized how important it was to the fans for me and him like to do something. And it's crazy. The craziest thing is me and him have never done a song with just me and him that should proably break the internet. Bro, there's no song with just man. Yeah,

you know what I'm saying. So it's like we never realized it, but then we started realizing that when we seen an impact, like when we got together at the show reunion and people were screaming, going crazy like I've never seen no ship like that, And I was like wow, and he was like wow, and he's seen more than me. He's he's you know what I'm saying. So it's like, just so you know, I texted him twenty seconds later he said, uh, kind of FaceTime with a mean he

asks to do this. Yeah, that's my guy. Man, that's my guy. That's real ship. That's like, listen, I'll be chastising him, but he asked. He said, you got Meca today, you know, you know, you know that's beautiful. That's let's make some noise of notes. Come on, he said, is it is? Megan ready? So you got no the most compared guests we've ever had. Let me tell you some y. I came home on the pill with no lawyer. So

you're talking about you know what I'm saying. Time back, I'm prepared, bro, but especially like if I'm right, if I know him right, like you know what I'm saying. If I'm right, if I'm wrong, then I'm gonna take it in and I'll be like, you know what, he's right. But if you're painting a picture of me that's inconsistent off you. If you're wrong about something, I'm gonna I'm gonna come prepared. And I we're talking about particular situation, like that's why I can't prepared to this, because I

knew you just gonna bring up certain things. And I remember, like when you think of all the stigmas associated with my name, it never came from me. It came from other people. Or when you think of how you said when you when you think about it, like damn, why didn't not like Mega? Or why didn't Mega not like me? When I never e said that. Somebody else told you I don't like you, just like somebody told me, no, we don't like you. I never know, And I'm yeah,

it's strong, you know me. I'm very vocal. I'm I'm not I'm transparent. If I like you, I've told you, I wouldn't have been giving you a look. I'm like you know what I'm saying. And we did a lot of ship together and there's there's been funny situations and real situations. Just like you know the DJ. Remember the DJ you get from the pass and then do you remember man? We should do the DJ. Man in the world, every DJ, he feels like he gotta protect you, gotta

say no name. But I'm just saying, like Noah, and I'm glad, like I'm glad with all of us is at in life because you know why, there's a lot of people doing bad. That's what I'm saying. And that's why, um that brings me, that makes me humble. That ship, Yo, it's a COVID. I didn't do that one show this year and I'm good, Like you know what I'm saying, like yeah, because you know why they need to Yeah, Like dudes, like dudes, dudes just hitting me like yo,

I forgot this company to contacted me recently. It's probably my DM. He's like, Yo, we wanted to sign you up and they said this autist is down, this autist is down. You do like video drop for fans and you charged them. I'm like, no, I'll do that ship for free from my fans. You know I'm saying I'm not trying. Cameo camera, Cameo do came I'm the paper, all my parents, I'm sorry, mag I got let me put you on like listen, listen. It was great. I

feel bad doing that. I do. Listen listen. All the medals where I go out to you, I've never paid for them in my life. Cameos paid for everything. Cameos are great fucking company, But you gotta charge fans to talk to them. Dave chars to fans. I ain't charge, yeah, but I just I can't. I just feel dirty doing because at the end of the day, I mean, you got that's the old school ship. Listen, listen. School man don't want me all just sill do camer to be

and still do what he's doing for the fans. You can still like it could be no hired tier, but they ask you to do on camera. This is old people from everywhere, and they just say hey, they already they say, hey, I already paid, They already prepaid. They're into it. How are you? How are you not taking their bread? Because money ain't good money to me. I feel like I feel like I've been doing that for free.

I've been doing that for free thing. So it's a different era though we're living in a different era right now. They're pre paying just a talk yo, Like you're not gonna say if someone says hits you up, say yo your birthday. You're not gonna do that something. You got Rock number? Dudes, can you call Rock please? I know you got his number. He's something yo. I called some of my fans literally called them like happy birthday. Watch it that sto. I went to a show watching This

is why I wanted to give my brother. This is my brother Deuce Heat called Butch Rock watch the I literally yo, he's yo, yo, Yo, all right, I got you. I'm gonna hold it down on the most ver this drop ever shot. But you've been up with Bush, but it's pretas what's the most over this drop? You ever see me? Do? I had a shout out of baby what the nigger said to me? Yeah? I just had a baby. That's cool. A Maria, what's up y'all? You're good? Yo, Yo, nigga, this is what I'm trying to tell you. I'm gonna

tell you. I'm gonna tell you get me done with you. I'm sorry, I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you a lot. I don't feel right doing it. Think it made me shout at the baby. So I just feel when doing that because I feel like everything in my life has been given to me by these fans, Like my lifestyle, it's been given to me by these fans. I expect that. Um, like this shirt I got on, these pants somewearing came from fans money. It's like they paid my bills, you know. That's what Trash said. Trash

said that's how he got hit. We get different bodies though different cards. Trying trying to JUSTIZI got to continue. Um I got that, can stay. I could stay two weeks. Money, I don't know what to say. Let me continue, That's what I can say. Now, let me let me stop sucking rap. But um, my fans are given me so much. Some my fans are given me so much. Sometimes I

actually feel like, damn, is this really how it feels like? YO, like to wake up and be like wow, my my, my, Like my bills just paid, Like everything is my fans did this by the grace of God and my fans. So it's like I just feel with charging them for something when they pay for everything else with YO. When I did the U and sneakers originally, I never wore your sneakers in my fucking life. When I originally did this sneaker, I did it because it was a challenge,

you know what I'm saying. I said, let me see if I could do it. Like if I I made it, I liked it. Fans boarded up. So I made a book. Fans everything I do, they buy it. I mean clothes, they buy it. So it's like, damn, I feel like I owed them something because they you gotta you gotta figure. We've been in a COVID, right how many I don't know, for whatever a matter of month it was we was in the COVID, and during the COVID. During the COVID, I've been like, I haven't done that one show. I

turned down no exaggeration. I can show you in my joint. I probably turned down like thirty features to ship. Do we believe it? Because your notice remarkable? Oh yeah, so so so. But I'm still sustained, Like think about it. I quote when you when we quote, I was like, I was like, what's what's what's what's clear? And I just came out here it was like, like it's really like all of this ship is from fans this so they're taking care of me. It's like I'm doing my

part and they're doing their part. So I I just feel weird charging them for a drop after they've done so much for me. Like I got my whole I renovated my whole house during the COVID. I got all new floors and everything. No, cap I don't, I don't. I don't sell drugs. So I just feel like I old, I really cared about my fans. Yo, I cried on this. I cried on the stage in Boston before you know what I'm saying. I cried because because they loved me so much. And it's like, bro, I defied the odds.

Nor I defied the odds. Bro. I like I debuted in the nineties and I'm still here right now. If I say, yo, I got an album coming out in the summer, people do get excited. My last album fucking charted. It was like number twenty four in the completely. Yeah, So it's like this ship is a blessing. So let's we respect you Mega two. Case you don't know the hip hop industry, we respect I'm gonna hear you a quick time with slum. Are you ready? What's the hell

is that? Hey? Man? Are you ready? I think all right? Nasa, Jack, you better come on, man, come on, man, don't do that. No, I'm doing that, and what and what and what doesn't matter. Just pick one. It's okay to pick queens. It's all right, guys. Let him talk for himself. I'm not gonna answer that. You already know where my asset is. Man, Come on, people gotta know what is please. They need to hear it out out of listening. I love Jay. My daddy grew up in massy projects. Okay, yes, but I'm a

forty side of burden boy. God damn it, that's what we need. Did so Warri Potter infamous. You're going, damn, I'm not doing that. You're going saying say I'm glad you didn't. I'm gonna say both. Goddamn. We could get away with that now of fact. Rewind both for now to Jay. But politically Molly law or Lodds, prof that's tough. Both. You can't keep doing it all. Let let me flip your ship a little bit. Let me flip your ship. Nas and Jack. I'm gonna tell you no, no, I'm

gonna flip. Let me, let me do my mega version. I love Nas because I grew up with him, but that's not because so that would be biased. Just just for that. I love what Nas has done for the culture his album um Illmatic change the landscape wrap in the nineties. You know what I'm saying. Also, he pushes me, He pushes me. You know what I'm saying as an artist. You know what I'm saying. And how come you acting like you drunk and you ain't drinking. You got I

don't need that. So um Jay. I like how Jake carries himself for our culture, like he makes us we we all we have a proud figure representative in him. When he goes in boardrooms, when he's in places where we have no business and our institutions that are beyond ours, our spectrum or or scope, He's making us look good. He's empowerment, he's inspiring economically, things like that. So that that I mind about him, um um his competitiveness and and you know how he represents for New York. You

know what I'm saying. All right now, now, what was the next one on this one? I'm I'm going different rock Shan, Sean Tay or Foxy Brown. Oh god man, this dude right here. Man, they're both families. You gotta pick one. You gotta take a stance. Just people trying to get me an argument. They both families. I'm gonna this is the last one. Let you get away with this one. You better be definitive, Major or Independent? Made

your independent. I'm gonna be definitive again. No, you're gonna be definitive, be some trinitive or you want me to pick one. He wants to please be defended about which one you? I would say independent? If all right, let's just say somebody has no passion for wrap, They really don't want to wrap, but they get a little hot fucking go to Major get your money because you don't

give a funk about it anyway. But if you're passionate about it and you want to own your ship, independent is the way, especially now the playing game has been even you can go get you do yourself. Like anything that the Major can put you on, you could do it yourself. And if you do your money the right way, you can market yourself. So now you don't have to go to them for their money. Like you self. If

I self t let's it, I could sell. You can sell twenty thousand records and make two hundred dollars if you do it the right way. So if you just make a two dollars a year, if you had to draw, make a two h year, your whole family be proud of you. So if you could do an album making so twenty thousand, you know what I'm saying, Well, let's just sayn is some expense. You can make two hundre

thousand or very album. So if you three sixty deals, no never, but independent if you gotta, if you gotta, if you got your own bus and your own following, Independent is the way you have to explain that because a lot of people, and I'm one of them, like I hate Independent. I'll because of the era that you were in the Major. I live over the Independent, but I hate it. I'm gonna tell you why, because you it's like being born into wealth and then your parents

takes all the money. Said, now go get it for yourself and show me what you can earn. Because when you're in the major, your paper two. You came here too. That's the funish in the world. You wake up, you know we're doing. You're going to the studio, you get a car service to the studio, you're having fun in there, you're doing, You're catered to. They're gonna send a car, they're gonna sendbody pick you up from the airport. They're gonna do this, everything, everything, everything is given to you.

And it's more when you independent, it's more legwork, it's more grun it's like undependent to show you who you really are. But independent, it depends on how bad you want the ownership versus not owning it. And that's why I never went back to a major. I could have went back after Yo, bro, look at my albums. The realness a true meaning that ship like even when you look at the hot artists now that's coming out from New York, ain't none of them so more than more

than not there with the truth. If you take the true meant in the real together pro a, nobody did that. The hottest motherfucker's they do that. You know what I'm saying. But but it's a lot of hard work. But also we have so much things in our favor now. I didn't have social media back then, YouTube wasn't there, so and digital going digital myself where you get the money yourself. Now we now we learned how to utilize merchandise, and people like your staff, they will to wear your staff,

you know what I'm saying. So it's like, we have all these things that benefit us. That's why labels try to get three sixty deals because they want in on some of that too. So it's like if you got your own, like say Drake, Like say Drake right now, Drake independent right now, he don't need a label, you know what I'm saying. He probably is, do you know what I'm saying, because he's already built. He's already a brand and he knows. So it's like ship like that,

you don't need a major. No more like majors are really artists are doing. Artists are keeping majors open. I think that most most of these artists, and even where he's coming from is the look is to look to look. They're definitely gonna, they decinitely gonna. They they got that machine. But independent, you can the guy that's looking big and the guy that's under the radar is making the same with more money. Exact what they're not a lot of

people don't understand it. Trust men, I know, I definitely know. I agree with you. I agree with you. I agree with you. But you gotta watch what you do in the business period because you can get screwed in the independent business, right you gotta. Yeah, you gotta people gotta um like the younger dudes getting in the game, keeping it real with your with your man's and all of that.

It's cool, but you gotta keep it real with yourself too. Um. You gotta get your representation, get you a good lawyer. You gotta know your paperwork. You gotta and if you don't know these things, and you're gonna get screwed. And you gotta three six yourself in a sense. Yeah, you gotta be able to monetize everything. Yeah, you can do your shows, your merch, your your your streams and your physicals, all of that. So the new project, we haven't talked

about it because pleaple. Yet let's go into it. Well yet to come out. The joint that UM has played a little while ago is like a bat your unreleased joint. You said, that's the one that Pope would be proud of. Yeah, that's just bars, but it's the cadast reminded me of pun as well as when I said, be proud of it. Um I ben aggressive aggressive lyrically aggressive. Um I haven't done it anywhile. So sometimes as an artist you lose your hunger and the fans noticed, so that that joint.

But that joint been sitting in my stash. So I gotta I gotta like a I got a bunch of unreleased joints that I just want to compile and put out. Um I just gotta think of a name. Um but um, I would annoy to drive his hand because I got something that that's gonna play your gard alright, listen, and the most hand sanitizer in the world, asked my wife sanitizer at that Senzer. All right, so listen, this is the master book black book. You got a black book,

I might call it the black book black book. Now it's a real graffiti. I'm a real graffiti guy. Black book. You gotta go graffiti. This ain't graffitia here, but it's tagged. But it is that. I don't know what you're going with this. You kill of it so far. You know how you like my quotes? Yeah, I do like all your quotes. No, it's not all these in the book of quotes that I tag I want you to to be the first to tag it to read. You know, I'm not a great reader. The only thing that comes

overnight is the moon. The sex doesn't happen over night. It takes many mores to reach your success reading room. Read next one. When you play both sides, you're always caught in the middle. Broy you English, though, your hand gotta be dry. Yeah, make sure you got this, bro, you got this? Or is easier to let me read that one? Let a little bit about I said in a word for the poor people, wealth is easier to achieve than peace and equality due to the poor character

of the wealthy. Wow, it courts. I'm just reading quotes from my book and I tagged it because that's like bossk Yatt used to do it. So now I'm gonna it courts absolutely nothing to pay how much? That's what drink Champ says. By the way, hold on, stop what what? What? What number of the book is that? Because that's what drink Champs is. I feel like you should tag drink Champs at that point. That's what we do. We pay dagnes,

that's what we do. Bo came out yet that's what it's gonna look it's gonna look that it is hard. You're gonna see my writing too like that. This is my last one that I read. Never confused real love or conditional love. One will lift you up, the other will bring you down. So this book is just gyms

getting money, getting money? Is it art? A lot of people paint the town and years later can't break the reality that their color schemes have faded or been rep by grand schemes that can stand the test of time. So damn, that's got to make noise. Being at the Black Book. I recommend you calling at the Black because you know why the Black Book is a double on contra because obviously you're proud to be black. Were all

proud to be black. But in graffiti, that's that is an actual art to like like like when I wrote graffiti, I would go to a hundred and eighth street, I go I go to I wrote graffiti, so I would go to them and I would have to back right so and then act, are you supposed to get me to say, yo, listen or you give me two two pages? And anybody else who funk with you you give pages. See I'm learning about you. I gotta get a hatset. You gave me this compliment to look I was gonna

do to you. Ain't taka Listen. I was thinking our corning out the Black book, but I have another so and then every book I have a different color because there's a blue book. So I'm gonna keep hitting people quote because I noticed, like my some of the things that I said. One of my quotes went platinum on your show. Uh, some people are morally. Some people are financially rich, but morally, I'll see that ship all over the hand. There's not much did I'll be seeings that

on so so. So I just wrote a whole book of quotes, and that's not even my first book of quotes. But this black one, I've said, you know what, I wanted to be personal. I wanted to be in my handwriting. So when this comes out, you'll see it in my handwriting. And man, the guard just got on the book deal. You know, I know him vaguely. Let's just make that. Let's let's see if I can do this. I've been successful, come on about something. Let's let's see your shoulder, man.

Let me take the international real quick. Let me see my man is out. Let's go and see my guys out seven eight nine. It's twelve o'clock out there. I should call somebody. I'm gonna coll Cuba right now. Man the same time. You know, it's just my son. I want to sleep here. I just try to hit my man. Gigs in London, Ny gigs, an gigs in London gigs right alright? Cool? Yes, la, man did not show me? No who else should call? Let's see. Let's see. Uh I've done, I've done hit now you here squash squashing

right now that you mean? Yeah, I don know who? You know who they wanted to call? Joke, no joke right now. I don't understand why there's yeah, I love joke. I'm like I told him to come on the city each other. No, I just told him to come pull up and he said, this is what he said. Can I call him? O? Kay, let's do I man, let's go. If he if he picked up up man, he definitely gonna pick up jokes joke we called him on the phone. Choke joke, my hang up though. No, I ain't gonna

hang outside. It's gonna feel like you line them up. No, no, no, no, take a shot. Okay, let's see what happened. Yeah, okay, you call all these is ros. This is it. I'm trying to drink with y'all. Don't see y'all walk through a bath bottles. I'm just see who y'all are right now. What are you talking about? Trouble, no joke, y'all. Good energy, man, you want you want drink chaps man, Good energy, good energy,

That's what I'm talking about. Man. Ships. Some noise for this funny, ain't we're about to We're about to h talk some ship. But I just wanted to make sure y'all it's all love, man, because y'all you know it's all love. Talking to Mark talking cool. I'm in, I'm in. What's up? Joe? Hey, didn't good? I'm good, baby, Yeah, I'm great, man. I don't understand when we weren't wrong, like the you know, from the first time we started

three Chance, he was one of our biggest supporters. I don't know when you went with it, the support you and I said support you, and I don't know where we were wrong. You know, when I'm realize these niggers at the fucking comments, it's some fucking and tagging there. I respect game and then get the root of it. All the fans in the comments every day does against each other, and I ain't gonna fight. I got to blame that joy you're playing joy. I did, yeah, but

that the past. It's the President's the past, and we're fixing in that. We it's fixed. We're good, right, I'm good on my good. Look at kore Megan's allegend, kore Megan's allegen. You made that happen, Komaga. I was in the phone with Camerain yesterday and cho today. This is all love in your life. Don't want to do I think, thank you see this type of ship we do. Yes, but I've always been on this color timebody said that. Nobody said I'm saying nobody said that, but that was dope.

We spoke to nas, but I want that video, which one that motherfucker video hopefully King's disease album we didn't a stop to. If y'all talked about that. Now you said you can't talk about I mean, I don't like talking about That's not really my business to talk about. That's nos album. Yeah, but he said at the end of the day, like if he says there's no there's no video, there's no video. If he said that video, there's a video. So all I can do is I'm like,

you're on that. I don't know. I want if it happens, it happens. I'm just some you like the song. Obviously I didn't think. I didn't. I didn't expect it. I'm gonna be honest. I didn't expect it. I didn't. I just I just wanted to I know what's gonna happen. I didn't say that. It was like one of those things I can hold a secret. Um. I try to get people hints, but not too much hints where I

give it away. It's like, you know, like people see me like in his post and they thought we had issues, so like setting like, you know, I always give people a little subliminal hints, but I won't give it away. Um, so you know it's it's it's it's all good man. I feel good. I didn't like you already got the video plan the way you're just talking. I mean, I'm like, he just gave like there's another projects a good y'all pish it, y'all pish it. I feel like I don't listen.

I'm gonna keep it a hundred percent with you. As far as a video, um, you're kind of giving it away right now there perhaps could be as far as the album Right now, my main focus is the Rulness part too. I can let you hearry, but I don't want to play it on the air, yeah, because we're gonna definitely it's nobody and biting my ship. They don't want to admit it. I definitely got playing that ship, so um yeah, the Runors part too is my main priority.

Already started on it. Um. I got the unreleased music that I played. That's that's not from the Runess either. But the Rulings Proud part too, ah yo, dogs, I'm so proud of ye. I'm gonna start sending you joint like I'm gonna let you here some ship I'm in my bag. It sounds like but if your guys was you are firm? Are two weird? It's done the way you want. I don't know should be part two, it should just be starting fresh. I just think, I just

think everybody. I think. I just think, Uh, I don't know if we do another one you want it or but no before like y'all together, that ship just sounded so naturally like I mean it was the combination from the jump was just it's I don't know what what makes it so amazing, but it's amazing. It's like you think you because it's unexpected. Also, people aren't expecting that. People don't know what's gonna happen, so it makes it easier for you how to make something seamlessly in that sense,

I don't think. I don't think that because after that song everybody was like, we want the album. I just think when we get to I just think our chemistry is a fan I want to album. I think our chemistry is just so unique and maybe the timing is perfect too. Sometime the game needs real ship right now. So but at the end to day, um, I don't know. I'm not gonna say and say there's an album because I'm working on my ship. I think you said there's a novel. I didn't. We didn't, and I'm worriding mother

brother six seven. We're started the Brown I don't know. It was the realness part too, and the Black Book. Black Book. The Black Book is for for dudes that that need to think. Sometimes. I like giving jewels to the especially you know you know what I mean? When I noticed You're never too old or too young for jewels. Like some people to be like, we got to school the young dudes. There's some old stuffing dudes. Sometimes we sometimes we learn from each other. So it's like, Um,

I'm I'm putting that black book out next month. You know what I'm saying. You want to write my ship right now, I'll get a different book for that. Okay, damn think it. Don't even want now we can do some ship. We can do it. We do this ship together. We're doing for a couple of quotes on your ship. I gotta think about it. That we could do. Uh, we could do uh. We could do a collaborative shirt. You tag on it, our tag on it. Right, you know what I'm saying. But I think we need to

do the quote needs to be a shirt. Oh you know, we'll see ship compound compound were at Queens rockaway bullet balled. Go see compound with a ce kay ship go damn. That's how you know I'm dyslexic. See come out call nation. Now okay, let's see the nature pick up. We'll call on everybody to day fucking let's do it. No nods on piece, some pieces best left. Yes, here's a new quote. I didn't write it down yet. Yeah, what's the quote? Just because I don't funk with you don't mean I

don't got love for you. But just because I got love for you don't mean I gotta funk with you. Jeez, that's tough. That's hard to kill. Let's see if nature picking up? If Na's pick up in nature, don't fucking life is fucked up? Just being honest. Maybe he's busy with the family. Bro picked up, Nature's gone. We're here? What called Mega? Say? Hello? God? Damn it? Something nature? Did you make? What you're making? Waffles? Right now? You're

making waffles? That's what sound was beautiful? What's good? Man? I'm I'm here now, Manna talk about that's so you know you're a drink champs, right, Okay, so you know I was a little upset with you, right, but I love it. You know what I was up saying? Oh, sure, I don't want to I don't want to free stout. Okay, So remember, um, I sent you a d M. I don't know if you remember, because you I don't know what's going on, but I sent you a DM and I was like, yo, could you pop? Okay? I don't

know how wrong to go. It's like it might have been last year. Anyway, I sent you a d M actually the post a picture. I asked you to post my my my EP, just for us to show love to each other, and you didn't. And I was like a little taken back by that. When I've seen the scene, it just said scene. So I was like, damn, Nick, huh, now make a philosophy mega the EP. So I'd rather just talk to you about it, because you know, because you're my guy and we're doing man ship. You know,

I didn't everything that's going on. And still I still have a phone pho like to say, I may have to call me, like yeah, let him talk though, Let's talk because you know it's positive. It's positive man, trying to show people like this is how you handle grown up ship, like you're still my man. I sat funking with you. An't say fucking Mitchell, I say nothing, Negad. I'm just saying I was a little upset. I was a little hurt. And that I said for somebody used

to work hurt. That said that means they give a fun So you know, I just want I just want the same love. I'll give you bro, you know what I'm saying, because I'll give you love real, that's real, that's real. You know. We a lot about dams. You know. That's that's real right there. That's that's my bad part was over what was actually trying to give me it too. But you know right now now we've been come on soide. If we wasn't good, I wouldn't be smiling on the

phone with y'all. Just I wouldn't even I don't know what to set called nature, but I just you know, I'm saying, like we gotta we gotta hold ourselves accountable. And there's a thing called mutualism without telling worry about. And it's like we all benefit each other when we're working together. At the end of the day and we're gonna be on some amen for self ship, a few men are gonna fall like so it's like everybody, each one, you know, I'm saying, like we all move like a

like a unit, everything will be better for everybody. That's what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. That's and I'm told and I told Nor that. So it's like we Nor just spoke to um. Just put the choke, you know, what I'm saying, and it's all up between them right now. So it's like, you know me, you obviously don't got no beef. You just text me recently, you know what I'm saying. But it's like that thing was, That thing was in my chest, that thing was in

the back of my head, like damn. So rather than hold it, I appreciate you even I appreciate you. You can saying that because you know, most of the time people have disagree and they hold grudges. They hold grudges in the turkeys, and as you know, they gotta be something page and who like you know what I mean, pull out of pockets sometimes to go. You know what I mean, I'm not big enough. I'm not just big

for somebody to pull my coley black Listen. I need you to do this, gro And this is why I appreciate no doubt, no doubt, and so love speaks a little drink. Chant. I didn't get you way too much shot. You gotta go now, see you later. Like wild Grimmins. My brother, goddamn, he's just gonna learning. Let's do. That was dope right there. That was dope, man, That was dope. That was dope. What then why the funds? These people calling me right now? Okay, No, James Pus and Eric Nix,

you ready for them. They're calling you together. They're calling together, they're calling you podcast boat. We signed it signed podcasts never had a contract. Let's get a contract. Let's do this. Let's me He's got the best called podcast right now. No, the fucking sneaker Sneaker therapy is even tiller. Were he gonna throw your sneakers? Did you see that? I'm gonna keep you some real ship. You know, people feeding for me to do a podcast. Yes, we're gonna signs podcasts

just quote the whole time. So cast. That's kind of the only reason I never did a podcast, because I told my man, sometimes when you do the same thing is somehow you cool with it conflicts sometimes and I don't want to be in competition with nobody I'm cool with. I'm like, that's no reason, Lane, So I'd rather just support no re Goddamn. I respect that. I know what people do. It's happened Twitter. We all got to account. That's true, but I just didn't want to do it.

I feel like that, I feel like that's you know what, you know what you should do. If you think that that's what you shouldn't do, you should do Twitch for your fans Twitch Twitch we'll talk off off of this then I don't know you do. But it's it's like pay per view for them to do whatever you're going to do for them on Twitch. Like what I mean, talk you talk to them. It's like a podcast. We charge me a second. It's independent podcasts. They about it

that way Twitch twitchy. Let me finish my album first, Let me finish my book. We're talking about twitch and all that, but no sign sign everybody you need to sign. Man, that's good. I mean everybody that came out with the podcast after the facts that fact nor he did tell me about this like over like two years ago 's three FT. You got my two favorite podcasts, right man. It's hood Therapy. We throw your sneakers away. Oh my god, my favorite shot therapy. Shoot Therapy. It's the same ship.

Show is not throwing sneaks in the water. It's a second. It's a segments the second only yesterday was part of that. That was the show, that was the beginning. You was a part of the show. It was the part of the show. And you know how you know part of me for interjecting. No you get interjack, Okay, um, you know how you said, like Mega's changed, Like you see a change in me. Sometimes people tell you things about yourself. You can either be stubborn about it or embrace what

they're saying and learn from it. Or you know what I'm saying, yesterday I noticed a change in myself. Like when we were chilling and uh, a bottle fell right at the end or glass sign to anybody, remember that the glass all right? And then were just leaving and I just double back and I went and picked it up because there was some old ladies right there. And I don't know why, but southern me was like to get that because you don't want them ladies get hurt,

you know what I'm saying. So the old wady just last something about you know what I'm saying, Sonning. I don't know. I don't know why, but that's just the kind of time of more. But at the same time, it's like my brother says, it's growth. It's growth, that's real. That's the reason why I said that. It's because I love the growth. Fitness. That's not the downplay it. It's like maybe I credited Islam to it. But if you became a better person as I knew you, that's you

know what I'm saying, what I credited to Islam. So that's probably the part of that quote that you didn't like. No, I liked it because at the end of the day, that's like somebody saying you his grades are better in school. I wondered it from him studying or you know. No, no matter what you said, it was a compliment, like you didn't you know. The only thing, the only thing questionable about that whole thing was when he was like, I get Mega now and then somebody said does he

get you? I'm like, here we go. That's a slide. One, that's a slide. But I'm in a good place, so I will saw that. So um, you know, moving forward. Today is a beautiful day. I was. It was ain't even coming out. He already know because I called you and I've said your bad guy would like you to come on because you show with strength. When Steve Style came on here, I knew you was mad. I don't know if he was mad at you did right about it, Steve. I didn't post to him, but it wasn't disrespectful. I

challenged him. I said, if you want to go to any public farm just to speak, and I added him like we could, we could talk. And I scared him his problem for who he is, because I don't want to be for him if he if he wants to hold you know, you worked like eighties million dollars or whatever, if you worked that much money. He's mad at coret Mega. Something that's not right because if I had eight million dollars, I wouldn't be thinking about nobody from twenty years ago.

I wouldn't even remember you. So so my whole thing is like I know, my stories is the truth. That's the one thing about me. Nobody's gonna say Megan's a liar. I'm not lying about nothing. So like like I said, had I came with the papers today when when people's own words conflicting with you know what I'm saying. So it's like I have no issues with Steve at all. I respect Steve. Steve is good for the culture. I love what he did with for for my man's career.

He took him, he took him to another level. But it's like a part of being blessed is is um is um being compassionate and and and understanding where your blessings came from, an understanding like you don't have to you don't have to stand on people. Yo. Man, all you gotta do is reach. You could reach for for something without standing on somebody. You don't gotta step on people next all the time. And it's like a lot of his interviews or wait, shipping on somebody. And this

is not my opinion. You could You could just do your own research. You don't have to shoot on somebody every interview. You already shipping on people just by living in your lifestyle. You ship and you're doing your thing. Just be be a gracious winner. You know what I'm saying, because at the end of the day, making me look bad like it's if you try to make me look stupid, you better be shop as fun because I'm coming with facts. And if you say somebody me and it's accurate, I'm

gonna say you know what, You're right. Oh, and I'm man enough to say my bad or I'm sorry. See that's the difference between certain people. I don't even certain people. You get to a point where you might get to this point with certain people. There are some people I have drives just with and I'll just fall back because sometimes you can let it air out, let it, let it fade, and then you come back when cool cooler has prevailed. The saying goals. Some people turn small yo

when you turn an issue. When you treat up issues like it's beef, that's something totally different. That's why a lot of friendships are funked up because people have they have small fallouts, but they handed like it's major beef. And when it's major beef's hard to come back to that. It's hard to take ship back to that. So so certain people I would rather than just fade out the picture of my life than to even reconciliate with them.

Like there's certain people in my life, I mean not in my life that were in my life that I'm content if I never see them again for the rest of my life. Like That's where I'm at with it. And no, I don't even got no pep stole because to think the crazy thing about Stoff was I'd barely I barely see I've probably seen Has. I've seen Has more in the last ten years than I've seen Steve. I've seen Has in the last five years more than I Steve Steen in the last twenty years, so he's

really not a part of my life. So I shouldn't even be in those conversations in the derogatory manner. And it's like be a graceful winner. Like even Chris Lie, Chris was at some meeting and my name got brought up, right, and this is a guy I was signed to and and I and I and I got off the label. You know what Chris said there was like, yeah, what's Omega? And he said, that's the one that got away. That's

a that's a grateful man. That ship made me respect him even more, like like meaning like he he felt like he could have did more for you. He said, that's the one that got away. Whatever, there's something good like you, that's the one that got away. It's like having a good woman and you lose up, or like having a good friend and having a good investment. You didn't invest in it. That's the one that got away. So when he said that, my respect for him went up. Charlotte,

mean to go. You made me look crazy just now, man, I called you, we called lies. Everybody picked up. You only need ain't picked up. I don't know if I'm offended or not. This is Charlott Mane. Save the hold on hold of me, let me give let me give um your real moment. You don't know that about this my secret life. Yo. I got cool with Charlottemagne when I was working at MTV on the low. Nobody knew

what work that MTV. But see what's good y'all. Let me say this, bro, I'm very proud of your your growth and your like the way you ascended in our culture. I'm extremely proud of you, Brong, because I remember the beginning. You know what I'm saying. I like how you represent our people, and I like where you're going with. You don't embarrass us, you don't make us look stupid, and you don't conduct yourself ignorantly. So thank you for that, bro.

Hold up with Charlomagne. I say that to say, we signed in Comega to us, what is that blackctal, the book deal, the black effect we got the more we were signed them. And you also signed Hood Therapy and Smooth Chips as well. Don't worry about that, all right, all right, don't worry about that. But you trans podcast set work. God dammit. All right, my father, this is a great end of time, we got everybody and you didn't go negative. And no way you're trying to just

heal you that way. No, you just we're bigger than the college because because when you because sometimes I've learned, like when you stooped down to people's level, then you gotta go down. I'm trying to go up. I'm trying to stay up, bro. So it's like we did even even the nature thing that we did. I'll say this on the air, but you can edit that out. You know what I'm saying that from because I'm compassionate now and you felt every awkwind it uncomfortable. It was caught

off guard. He was caught off guard, and you know, so we could edit that out, or you could edit it in a way where when he was finally up to he's like now, you could edit it where he's up to speak. I gotta be where do you even to think at it at all? And I was sleeping. It's with drink Champs. We d into when he knows he's on drink Champs. He didn't know he was on

drink Champs. You could have called me with that or like the you could edit it that that it's tied it man, it's just and I gave, and I gave, and I gave the nice and I gave him a nice version of why I felt he should should have promoted me, because because the whole version. You know, I have paper, no papers, So basically, first of all, these are new papers. So basically basically name turn out, turn me out, turn out. So there was a show it and not I not. They gave me free ring Mega.

We want you to do a show. You're the headliner. Put who you want on the show. We're gonna fly them out here. We're gonna pay them to hand to accommodation. Then we're gonna get them close. I'm putting Nature in rock Mantiano. Nature made money. Then I had another show in Massachusetts. I'm putting nat show on the show. And then after the show, he says, December eighteenth, it's Christmas time. I don't celebrate Christmas. Took five hundred out of my

pay and added it to his. You know what I'm saying. So this is the type of time I'm on. When I tell you I'll do real ship, I put thousands in this man pocket. So if I asked you to post a picture so I could be a little offended if you're gonna post the picture if I gave you thousands. It's not like I'm just feeling it title for you to post my picture, like show me love like I show you love. So that's what I'm saying. The selfish

climate amongst us, all queeze niggers just playing quez. I kind of feel Trump hit him up to see if you had so not so all one that smoke. So basically, all I'm saying is you like Trump, know that you like Trump. I don't like politics. I don't like politics. Don't think about it. I don't like politics because this is a dirty game and Biden Biden us and all about homies to jail. Before it was like, you're saying you like Trump, I'm saying Trump is a I don't.

I don't like that. I don't I would let me do it. I'm not. I'm not positive. Bernie Sanders yeah yeah, I mean, buns would have been dug. I want to listen. Here's my ticket, Bernie Sanders and Michelle Obama. Oh yeah, Michelle could have ran. Sheelle Obama and Bernie Sanders as vice president. I like that. That would have been that she wasn't. She don't if she don't want to, she don't. Selle Obama and Bernie Sanders they want to bring out Michelle would have won if she would have ran. I'm

on that kind of time. Oh man, you know what I'm saying? Or Easy maybe? I mean if Easy ran, if Easy really runs our around, would vote for fuck it? We're vote for everybody else. Yeah, ur And who's gonna be the body's president? I feel like it's me at this point, you know, you know, look at this point. Yeah, I'm gonna change you that I gonna be in there. They definitely don't want me to be the restident, so they're gonna let this Nike live after jeez, I don't

know why I went there, but you're running homes. Yeah, but back and this is a pleasure, bro. You know this was great. Is there anything you want? Because you have notes, he can go look at you. Make sure you might have a paper bring out he got paperwork. I'm just saying this is how the gotta walk through the yards, and that this is how people that walk through the yards the fat You gotta have your paperwork. She gotta be right or you can't even walk through

this is how we walked through the fat's yard. Just now, are you understand? Are you understand? You got any Let's see hold, let me go through my nose. Let's go nory. Okay, here go boom such a nod. Yeah, this is for the normy show I had. All right, so let me see you I said that one already. M okay, this one is, this is, this is one. This ain't even in my book. And this is about um stubbornness. And

while certain certain people you just gotta let them fade. Well, certain people you could try, but it's like some people will rather be objective than corrected, which makes them slaves to their mistakes instead of free to improvement. So and then I have one when I said botanist. Botanist is people that specialize in theay with flowers. So your show, you get people their roses, and I'm and I'm like, I had that in my head. It's like when we

give people are roses, we gotta be careful. Basically, it's like the way you get people their roses is love, so talk other people get people their roses, but we need botanists. We need to be careful with some of the roles that we get from people because roses have thorns in them, bro, So it's like, don't give me, don't give me my roses, but but sting you get to me. So that's why I fussed with you. You

know what I'm saying. I got that's all. Some people they talk about how they got love for you, but they give incomplete sentences. They'll say I have your back, but the complete conversations is they have conversations behind your back. Don't be an incomplete sentence when you're funking with a nigger with a brother, okay um? And then what else I said that? I said that? Uh, I said that. Oh, here's a very important one. We touched on that revisionist theory.

We business somebody who changes something so they can say the skies blue, and somebody else to say the skies greg even though it was blue when you said it was blue, they would change it and then everybody believe the scuy was great. So I was like gonna break down, like how some people who have tried to give a revisionist theory of some things in life. But I have to do that because I had to paperwork. I um. And the last one, this is an important one out

of my notes. A misconception about peace or pursuit of it is that one is passive. My piece does not include turning the other cheek in the face of adversity or tolerate in disrespect. So that means, yeah, I'm on my cool ship. I'm trying to be humble. I love life, but my aim is better more like you know what I'm saying, David, Let live. So that's just in general. When we are as we grow as men. As we grow sometimes when you from a certain element and then

you start growing, people look at you different. And I think when we're young and we have those dreams. Every single person in this room had those dreams, those childish dreams, and those young dreams, the childish dreams. Be yo, when we grow up, I'm gonna get rich one day and I'm gonna get a car like this, and I'm you know, those dreams may be little, and then some of us actually do that ship. But when we become teens and young adolescents and young men, our plan is to get

out the hood. Y'all want to get out the hood. I'm gonna do this. So my thing is don't get mad at the person who stuck to the plan because we all had that plan. But sometimes when other people don't implement that plan, they get mad at the person that's stuck to the plan. That's not fair. So update your plans rather than hate on your mask. That's that. God damn it. I feel like that was the great ending.

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