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Episode 237 w/ Conway The Machine & Tragedy Khadafi

Nov 20, 20203 hr 16 min
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N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode the guys chop it with Conway The Machine and Tragedy Khadafi! The guys discuss the global impact of Griselda, Tragedy’s song “Arrest The President”, CNN, working with NAS, having the support of HOV, and much more! 

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Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of The Black Effect and I heart radio and it's Drink's mother podcast. He's a legendary Queen's wrapper. He's like, is your boy in r He's a Miami hippop pioneer. Up is d J e f N. Together they drink it up with some of the biggest players in the most professional unprofessional podcast and you're number one sorts for drunk fat drink. Every day is New year' z. That's time for Drink Champs. Drink up? Would it could be hoping you wouldn't to

be this is your boy? What? Up is d J e f N? And this is militainment Crazy Row Drink at least used to be used to be Crazy World Radio, but it is motherfucking drinks. Chance Yeah out some Now. This episode is special to me because I wanted to put two different elements together. I wanted to put somebody that's represents the new generation and I wanted to put somebody that represents, uh, the generation that I'm from. One brother has had in a lot of ways, put put

a group that he put on before himself. You know what I'm saying. He taught me everything shought me to grind, taught me how to to to appreciate studio sessions. You know, that's why I do four or five records a night. Has never had a session with me when I don't do more than that. He's taught me a lot in life. He's held it down. He's one of the most lyrical, one of the most hardest and lyrical workers there is.

And in case you don't know who I'm talking about, I'm talking about the person who put me on motherfuckering intelligent hold tragedy. Motherfucker. And the second guest is I believe with him and his two brothers are doing right now, uh west side Gun and Benny. I believe that they took off the legacy of you know, component Noriega, the locks, morb Deep. This is in our vein. These guys are keeping it alive. He makes me want to rap like I heard Lemon squeeze and literally was like, fucking, I'm

gonna do another verse. In case you don't know what I'm talking about, motherfucker. Car Now, I'm gonna start with you, carn Way. Because Buffalo was a different thing. A lot of people don't know the poverty of Buffalo, like that's one of like that in Detroit is a very very very poor place. But a lot of people when they think of Buffalo, they think of the Buffalo bills and

they think of Buffalo wins. Y'all. Motherfucker's are selling cocaine, you know, so you know everywhere, gott everywhere, and you know, man, it's just we just wanted to bring that film man, our aspect, you know what I mean, the story of the streets. Man, how we do it up by our way, so you know what I mean. We just always focused on that being so I expect that so much, and I expect y'all because uh yeah, please, how y'all stay

true to the game like y'all could have. Y'all could have tapped dance and did all that again, like everybody again follow you didn't You didn't follow what nowadays people

was doing. What made you want to keep it so true? Um, honestly, just just having a confidence man, and our ship, like we know, like should I ship was ill too, so it's like we could be ourselves and you know what I'm saying, And we kind of lived that lifestyle anyway, this ship that you know, niggas be rapping and snapping about. But we're just doing a different way man, like you said, we are not. We're from that vein like y'all niggas.

You know what I'm saying. So we just try to keep watching official like that and just be ourselves in the city. You know what, man, I would say, you got a very very rich history. Now what I mean by that is Molly Marr came on here. Molly Mar said in a lot of ways normy like I made drink camps and he was kind of like I put a lot, but he was kind of like, yo, if it wasn't for what he did, maybe I wouldn't have

been here in a lot of ways. He's right. So I want to take it from you from the beginning, oh, because queens seemed like you know, honestly, now a lie, I'm living it. But I didn't realize how rich I was having the Queen's Bridge affiliation. Like I didn't realize that till I actually became a Roman laughing. But you know, let's think about it. You really had mc ship Molly mall uh rock sand oh naws, you have it like

y'all all from that Like this is crazy. So how didn't you know what to do, Like, how did you know to get that? Molly? I just I just look at it like this, like you know, I had my I had a servle around me. That helps set the standing what I had to do. You know what I'm saying, As long as you've got st elite around practically, bront want to come on that drinks? You know what I'm saying. I see you can follow a call. Per I'm telling your uncle. I'm telling jay Z when you let's go

take a shot. Yeah, shot, I'm gonna get the shot, shot and get shot. I'm shot you because I sent the um. All right, I seen the motherfucking um. What do you call it? But we got a black we got water flo No, I like the water. I'll take on some food you we got for you, okay, right right yere, I'm in. I'm man because you don't know y'all know, but this show was about celebrating trash. I ever want to get you back to that. But let

me just get flowers. Let me give you more flowers in case you didn't know how much I appreciate you, like I really do you know what I'm saying. I know me and you we like each other. Sometimes so we bumped heads. But just in case you don't know, if it well, it wasn't for you, I really wouldn't be here. Like you actually pushed me, you gave me the battery on my back, and you you helped me

mold to who I am. So in case I've never told you that to your face, I want to tell you that, Yeah, I don't know that girl, I'm say I want you to know that fast. So to you what I'm saying, man, it all boiled down to me having a certain kind of standard around me, you know what I'm saying, Just like once I got that standard from them, I was able to alle you that bag all got standard when I when I started moving with you.

You know what I'm saying. I might have been, you know, a little aggressive with my approach at times, but at the same time I'm around g Rapp Morn Cane and these dudes at that particular time, they shocks, they assassins, so I knew I couldn't be the little dude and get drowned out. You know, we're not having that type of over So you know what I'm saying, I hadn't I hadn't get in you know, what I'm saying. So it was definitely a learning experiments and a good alley

for me. Man, and I appreciate your like even to this day, I always give I always give rap cana back with karate chop. Momly give them back with karate chop because they help, you know, because that's like difference because like, see him in Buffalo, isn't the other artists from Buffalo, right, I mean they got those heroes. I mean everything, I don't you know what I'm saying. He was one of the you know what I mean, the elder states Man. I was just nasty with his planning

and doing this thing in the town. So it's it's a little's a lot of artists. That's there's a lot of you got your ship with artists. Okay, here say we're gonna because I imagined, Oh that's very fruity. So I imagine because you you're older than others. Correct, yeah, by two years. But y'all both from Vernon. Yeah, I'm from the first side. Okay, he from forty and he's

from the forty shot did Okay. In the beginning nas came out, a lot of people said that they thought that he patterned some of his style based on you. The thing with that is this, right, like I just said earlier, in terms of when it came into noazaseelf no no no no, not not not no, justselfing me. You know how it is. You're growing up in the

streets man, and information get passed around with it. What it boiled down to is that I wouldn't be who I am to find from rock kim play or LLL playing, you know what I'm saying, or kine play a grat play. You know what I'm saying. So you're gonna you're gonna take certain You're gonna you're gonna take certain Yeah, you're gonna take certain add ons to add on it you and make you a better youth. You know what I'm saying.

That's all that is. You know what I'm saying. You know, people always gonna try to come in and it's nah Son, just son. I was before Sun, so Sun had the the leverage of you know what I'm saying. Take it from me to say what I took it from g rap Cane and anybody else that was before me that that I looked to it in my Okay, I'm aut Actually this line on care Mega record. He says, they forced my hand. Becker, I'm one of the few who can understand traffic. Hello, you're asking me, bro, what does

he mean by that? Is that? I don't I don't know exactly. I think that was him. I think that was him basically giving a term of angarment to say, I'm close to tragedy. You know what I'm saying, because you know tragedy spend that. I mean, you know, I respectfully though, respectfully though, you know what I'm saying. Like for him to say he could he wanted to you to understand tragedy. To me, I'll take it too. He wanted the fee that may understand the street. I'm street,

you know, I'm super stip walking projects. That's That's what I took for me. And how about how is your mega not being funny? Because ACTU MEA? I mean, you know, respectfully, we know what I'm saying. All right, that didn't sound It's great? A right, A right, Look, it's crazy man like you. Besides, both people just beap into many other street nigga. You know what I'm saying. The ship is everywhere in the nigga's in the same same vicinity, same radios that you know what I'm saying, don't see out

of eye. And you know what I'm saying when you when niggas is out for males and niggas is just about me like that sometimes likes in in the same count they're gonna You ever thought that she would like to be on Wayne's album and you know, like you got back man here that's Batman Nobody like he might have not even came here, but Wayne was here like man, Man, Batman came out with you like like you ever like I thought that you would be here in this level. Man. Honestly,

I mean I always I always knew man. I always was like just just shows. I was just one of them niggas. Man. I just always looked and just always told my you know, you know, Benny and West like always you know, champion me and looked up to me like I was like, you know, the big home. You know what what I'm saying. So it's like I always told like we just need we just a power move away, you know what I'm saying. We just wants to write

myfucker's hair. Our ship wearing buffalo. So niggas not hearing this ship or seeing this ship but I like, I like not to cut you when the add on man, I like to say something that's real, real important what you were saying, right, Because there was one of the at a time where I was working with a particular group and we had the same kind not dilemma, but

we saw it. We saw it. We thought we had a question came in front of us where as we was making a record and we was we was lining up the record and kind of like thinking about performing and one of us, I don't remember who it was, I was like, no, we're gonna bring them into our world instead of going in today. Well, that's what I love saying, and that's what get you that respect. You

know what I'm saying. I'm not saying you're not You're not you're not the next CNN too far or whatever, but you're choking that type of language where you're not not. I didn't get to the independent. Yeah on depending at one point was now it was never on depth job. It was all independent. I mean, we was working with niggas about devil jam at the office and ship. You know, west Side make a lot of relationships and like like all the officers, a lot of the office and you

know what I'm saying. So we got some friends about def Jam, but it was always just Griselda Records, you know west Side. You know what I mean. It was real big on just um like what you just said, man bringing it is the our world, you know what I'm saying, Like when we do features and ship like that, Like I don't want to send a nigga some ship that you do, Like I'm anna brain niggers. You know what I mean. You to be like you get one

of them? Dam I got what you said people ain't here. Yeah, it's called Out of Line I produced by the credib has it the sound You said you've got one more album you've done with all parties involved? Yeah, it just rhyme and go. But honestly though, like this is um like my last record, uh contractually with the with the label, so um, all parties involved, I'm saying. So you know what I'm saying. It's a renegotiation time, you know what

I'm saying. But this is the last album that great renegotiation. I played chess a lot, so now track what's up and got the show on the chat. Explain to people who don't have the Internet or do have the internet? Didn't see it yet? Playing people? What is it? On the chat? Okay? On the chats. Basically the artists or guests comes in and makes this signature dish for the audience and viewer. You know what I'm saying. There's a lot of us in hip hop, you know what she

and it's gonna happen. You're gonna get older. You can I cheat? Flush? I think like you cheat it, especially the question let me ask you get to that sea's see how yo? You know? Actually cheat? I didn't want to cheat. If I would have took the l would have been nothing, he said. He graduated from calling every squad I learned watching my mom's Grandmama's cooking. You know what I'm saying. And it's still be a win even

if I lost. You know what I'm saying. So you know back to that m Yeah, the show is basically about their favorite your favorite artists coming on and they basically made their signature dish for the view or whatever. Now that could be anything. You might have somebody come on and make the fucking grilled cheese. You know what I'm saying. Everybody's not a cooker. He took it. Wait, I don't made me listen, I would have made that dish. You see me on the show. I like yo, just

like back in the crib. If he get kicked that it has happened to me. And I got back in the crip Pizza Lott smaller and a piece of my partner missed the added we happens to be here. But yeah, it's it's it's a field. It's a feel good show and the vibe is good. And you know what I'm saying, Like you know saying I love cooking. I always love cooking. You know what I'm saying. So it was the only right that I you know, with yourre and bring it to the table. You know what I'm saying. You know,

we was in s He's Gonna Swing Together. That was now he had a studio and you gotta listen, man, this is off the no Bullshit series. I'm saying, keep keep it Greenberry. Oh I met him in Sing Sing when I pulled them in the swing. I gotta I gotta slip the goat to the library. You know when you go Unfortunately, we've been throughing conservation. When you get that call out, you gotta sign up for the call out. This is right. I came up for the chron ship. So you know, when you go in, they gotta see

if you got enemies and ship. So they make him sit for a minute, pulls you. So I got to slip as soon as my as soon as as soon as my my walk, my my my freedom, so to speak. As soon as I got moving, I gotta slip. I'm like, y'all sign up for the sign up for the love may Man. So I was the old age nomany building and trying to chance my am. I'm not gonna lock in any you're not playing them type of games. We're gonna established this ship right here. You know what I'm saying.

So it's not gonna be your comments seven it's my comments seven day. So I went down and I walked in. You know, I go down to the school building going to the libbrry. I was a b block um and uh, I go in and you know, the dude gotta hold the police directs me into the back room. So it wasn't like he was sneaking this like listen, listen, listen what I'm saying. Hey, this got seven years Okay. Yeah, So the man had a food flesh studio I'm talking about the ship like you used to coach. This is

not a way he had the problem. I got a sound, kid, Get it to the motherfucking the swing. Just this is when Bumby Johnson was locked up. This is no Yeah, yeah, y'alli was in there. Yeah, Mapaul makes you man, arrest in peace. But yeah he actually the layer vers later, Na. So I wasn't in that zone, man, I was not in that jone. Man. I wasn't in that zone right at the time. And I'm saying that's that's what he like, go to jail last right now. You gotta like a

sixteen factual. Factually. Yeah, but thankfully we both made it up behind the walls man. The struggle as well. Man. And while we're on this, on the top of the struggle, man, I just want to respectfully say rest in peace to my nephew Rescipes. You know what I'm saying. I wanted them artists that's not far removed from the street, you know what I'm saying. And I, you know, unfortunately as well as fortunately, I keep my post to the street. Man.

I stayed connected to it. One of my nephews murdering Rhode Island. Rest in peace to my nephew DJ Yeah. Yeah, he was shot in the hack. Yeah. Man, these kids is wailing. Man, they don't see that. It's a they don't you know what I mean. It's just it's bags floating around, you know what I'm saying. And they just they're getting wide with it. Man. But yeah, he used to capalty to that man. And you know, that's something

I want to address later on. And then I feel, you know what I'm saying, not to be on now. I ain't trying to preach a little body, man, but I want to reach these youths because you know what, they like us and a lot of them. Imagine, if you ain't get the time, you know what I'm saying. I can tell, I can tell you ain't wash it all off your hands either, you know what I'm saying. And imagine you don't get the time to to to

evolve into what you evolved into. Feel me. So if they if they're going out and they aren't getting laid early, they're not even getting the time evolved into what they could be. And we gotta tell, we gotta address that, man. We owe that to them. Making a noise, that making a noise like no I'm getting back to you. Y'all gotta be the most successful rappers phone Buffalo ho right now? Is that weight on your shoulders because like I think, I think y'all y'all got the keys to the city

or something like that. Yeah, Um, I mean, it's definitely an elevated level of responsibility, that feeling like you know, you just gotta put on for the city, you know what I'm saying. Like we've been through a lot, a lot of a lot of you know, like we don't really get our shot. Like it's a real feeling of like being slighted and being forgotten about and being like slept on with everybody. So it's like you know now

that we you know, you get your shot. You know you don't want to funk it up, you know what I'm saying. So like I just wanted me. Man, now that I'm in a position, I'm focusing now. You see my brother doing it West. You see been putting Niggason like we're putting the nick putting niggas on man the younger able to keep them going. You're something I'm saying, I got love here. J skis working with them on

their ship and getting them they from the town. Ain't know what it is stout people up at the Bentleys Toney like that he's good. Can't be good, you know. And that's what I love about y'all is see so much people thought independent or he thought street music don't make money, but they understand it's all music, you know what I'm saying. So I love ethnicity don't make money,

That's what I think. It was one of the things that just figured out a way that just it's a good points like, yeah, you know, well, you know niggers just know how. You gotta know how to hustle this ship too. Man, You gotta you know know what to take from the streets and what to lead behind. You know what I'm saying. That's what I think. Man. Yeah, Rack Nation Management, absolutely, you know what I'm saying. But yeah, you just gotta know how to hustle and just apply

that ship to the to the music ships. So that's all we did. We just figured out a way to you know what I'm saying. And West Side is very responsible for Spirithead and you know, just the whole thought process behind, like you know, how to how to move with this merch ship in these hoodies and these vinyls and all this and all that ship. You know what I'm saying, West Side of bad motherfucker man, and to compete to God, realize how great Gout album is. Thank

you King. I actually had to check it for a floor like I was looking for like on purpose, like and you like that's its flawless, a real damon, Like how do you how do you getting better? Like people digress as they keep going, how are you getting better? What kinds of water? A huge linking? I don't know, man, I think it's just always feeling like, you know, slight it,

you know what I'm saying. You gotta think I'm you know, I mean, we're not technically a group, but I'm gonna group with two of the Ellis niggers in the game right now, West Side and Bennie the y'all see what Benny. Benny's on the tear right now? Then he dead serious where this ship he's going, And it's like share, you know, you get that feeling of like, you know, damn man, they you know because you know they Benny and the Stars and West Niggas rock stars and niggas. It's lit.

But it's like now you don't forget about me. You know what I'm saying. That was that was my energy when I recorded that from King to a guy should I I really wasn't even posted recorded out of nothing. I was really just finishing God Don't make Mistakes, which is the My Shandy, my album for Shandy, And like in the middle of that ship, actually I had a gang of something. I'm just like, now I need another

tables like quarantine. I had just bought all the studio, ship and all that, and I'm in there just recording myself and ship and I'm just like, nahe man, I gotta you know what I mean. Let me funk it up one time before the album. Man, let's get into the beginning with you, right because you had a song called dropped that song right now? No, you don't wish you made it talk about don't Trump. Don't tell me about with Trump. Listen, I'm not even going to that right.

You know what I'm saying, you know what I mean? Like the bag is floating in hand, right. I want you to understand something right now, I don't have no I'm not gonna answer the question right now. But what I'm about this shape no share now. I wasn't be careful. I'm watch everybody that's the bag is floating around right now? Man, Like for me, like I'm black. You know what I'm saying. Case she ain't noticed, right, listen, all those other all

those other policies and all that. Like listen, man, A lot of dudes, Man, a lot of dudes say, well, y'all, y'all can't funk with Trump. I can't funk buying. I can't funk with this one. First of all. Dudes don't even look at the policies. They just say shops are racist or this one's a racist. I mean to me, man, the devil want to know it's better than then. I don't know. Man, you know what I'm saying. That's you know what I'm saying. That's even like bottom line is

that's how the game get played. Man. You know what I'm saying. The bag gotta circulate. Man, I rather the bag sugulate, and I got time to fortify ship as opposed to the bag getting shoulder and lighter. But when you made the rest of president, did they like, what's the c I a involved? Like, did they come to see you or something? It's not y'all, y'all sent me a letter. Yeah, sent me a letter. I got surprising.

I think he's just watching every saying like, actually me at that time it was surprising, but now that should ain't surprivor I was surprivate too. So long, okay, so what happened? You went to the mailbox and just now they I was with Molly. It was with the O G and know you know, see they they basically said, oh, yeah you got this ab me a positive false wants you to come. We're doing some things with the children

of a bad mountain. They have a base up and band Mountain which is not too funking Spring Valley when Maulie lived at this want be careful, be careful. So so um, you know, they came and they said they wanted me to talk to some kids or whatever. So I'm like them for the babies. So they said an agent to come give me you got lord out there? Yeah even catching them right, yeah, you catching it. That's what they did. So I'm like, Dad, I'm gonna go talk to the baby. So to do that, came and

got me. I'm in the back seat. He's driving. He's like, yeah, you know, I'm I wull I were going behind the desk. Now, I'm not an active duty and I yeah, I can relate to your story. I had to you know, my brother. You're said your mothers on drugs and all that and heroin. My brother was on that. I can relate to your story. But I ain't really talking to him too much, honestly, because I'm just coming home from malt Momin and I don't really know how to socialize with people. I was

a social man. All I know how to do is going to boot from talk. I don't know how to talk to people, like now you know what I'm saying. So I'm listening to them. But I'm like, so I get up there to Bear Mountain, and when I get it, first of all, I said, how many kids gonna be there? It's like, oh, we got an old group of kids. When I get there, it's like ten kids. And that struck me as being something like, well, you're expecting more expecting, like like the way he made it he alluded to

Big Moore, Yeah, well maybe fifty. It's ten kids and they teaching them. You got one of the ages teaching them how to how to shoot the eight K. What the fuck? So I'm saying to myself. I say, you're WoT, I said, when these kids from So he was like, yeah, some of them, most of them is from the Brons. So my mom like, you're shooting these You're shooting these kids from the Brons? How to shoot the a K. You're gonna send him back to the hood. So I'm like,

this ship is funny getting shot bronze today. You know what shot I said, nae big up's naming the show. We got to pull up to pull up? Man, They say, you I take out with the old g s bad to pull up. You know what I'm saying. T M T d N t M T d M dot com got them in like td N and you heard it the come on So a long story love better little story long you know, I wand up going back or whatever. And then that's the arrest the president. Now dropping rest

of president from me. Just before I dropped the arrest of president was intelligent. Yeah, yeah, Now I'm dropped arrest the president. And there's a rally. They're having a rally up at the White House speaking against the war. And this is the first Bush when he was president. First goal for the first goal war factual, artifactual so now I go over there with a boxing arrested president shows, I jump on am shot and this is not even me involved with the label. This is me going on

my own, you know what I'm saying. Shot, go over there. I'm giving out else and I'm walking around and I picked this dude and you know I used to you know what I'm saying, I used to be in the street on a different level. Like so for me, like I don't I don't really remember names, but I remember faces to be aware, to be alive, you know what I'm saying. I was like for me, if I forget a face, that could have been my life at the time.

So I remember this dude's face, like I know this dude from and he's walking around or whatever, and then it hits him like your DA's to do that? Prove me in the code told me wasn't active. I ain't gonna lie that. I was like, yo, I'm outside, don't count. Yeah, that's a fact. That scary glory. But that she woke me up though she as well. So now so now look when you say why ain't dropping rust the president? Now, I'm not gonna drop something. See that I was shun

you know what I'm saying. That was just me coming from the hall. So there's nothing you regret though, No, not at all. I don't even I love that part of her. I was feeless. I love guys to warm and me. That's what we should do, you know what I'm saying. But before I look at things being black and white and now I don't understand a lot of gray area and the shape. You know what I'm saying. Like, and it's like he said earlier, he played the chests. It's about the long game, you know what I'm saying.

If I'm gonna jump out, I gotta jump out and be fortified. The answer the question, yeah, how my ship get full? Hease be ready, be ready, But come on a little bit more, Mattah. That's that dominicanship. Do Melicans think that's salute relicans than they can all night? If they fun with that? Yeah, Now it's the guy is foody? This person that's a fan of you? What's the most shocking person that's a fan. That's a good question, man, I don't really know who's who's all a fan? You know,

just like I don't even Jaz signed everybody. He don't funk with everybody. Yeah, he fu, that's probably it was the most shocking. I'm about to say that, like you know what i mean, like old old man, he really, like you said, he don't funk with everybody, like I got a I don't know, he gotta. I know he

fussed with us. When that nigga pulled up to our show in l A at the New One, it was the no one that was just him and Emory like I ain't seen no government security team, I'm like, and stayed the whole show like she was like an hour and a half to our He stayed the whole entire ship. We got forty niggers on stage smoking, y'all type of ship. That nigga was like really watched the whole show and that's what I'm Yeah, that could have been anywhere in

the world. I with us. Let me just tell y'all, bro, you know, I'm sure Trash could attest to this, like y'all reminded us with we did you know what I'm saying that y'all doing so good on how y'all orfestrated your ship and how y'all keeping it tight? And like I haven't heard no argument with you with him I'll tell you'll do it, you know what I mean. But hey, don't sneak this record. So y'all just keeping it before

trying to turn greenberry. They're just keeping it real. And like we have to admire that, you know what I'm saying. That's people, that's oldest statesmen that moved on. When we when we see a product that we respect, we have ton saluted. So the fact that you got the biggest and the biggest saluting it, yo, man, that that's that's that's that's that's huge. And he's not fake with him, No, he's not. Yeah, you know, and let me say it, and I totally restrike that. But for me, I reously

thank it even more. That's I know the energy. H I'm still in the energy. I know the energy. That's why I respect you know what I'm saying. Are you gonna feel the oil? You feel the difference like this ain't no gm oh, this ain't no microwaves ship. So I'm gonna travish my bottle of eight trash. I took that. Come on, baby, we know pain. You know about how you poppa come on shaking man? Are you sure? Come on? Man? Come on, I didn't get the call. We come on,

we celebrave ba. We know professional chat painters. How being with the pain, I'm gonna keep you don't work with the plain No, I'm just working with the pain. Can we celebrate? I'm here? Ye crazy, exactly exactly, brown man, Yes, I keep looking on the other side. I didn't I'm not going my ship right with that. Brown Man, you didn't get the brown yea white assume ground I drink, but when I dressed tall, I didn't that some professional that fos getting money the different way he got damn it.

So track whatever man, you said, Molly's crib in this branch, that the crib where he has the video games in there. I wasn't good at the time. Yeah, how real was it for l A l A. Let's just jump around? But l A l A right, um, the region will beat. We couldn't click. I love the white label joint, right, the white label got that? So what made you? Because I know you and Molly had had discrepancies, right, So

what made you say? You know what? I'm a even will I'm gonna go back to the O G to remix in l A left because sometimes you gotta show the motherfucker how to do it just because they made a mistake. Sometimes you got to show him how do you're supposed to do it in the first place, you know what I'm saying. And Molly's yeah, you know what I'm saying. Though we had the strapping seas, I would

never bite him, you know what I'm saying. I would never bite him because he told me how to time, told me how to hop the train stand, you know what I'm saying, told me how they all. I'm just saying because you know, he said, he showed me how to eat, He showed me how to show me how to navigate. What I'm saying, something the best lesson and paying a lesson. He told me how. He taught me the game, you know what I'm saying. So it wasn't

just that part of my intentions were selfish too. I knew that Molly was on Future Flavors and he had the radio. He kind of told me, and if you just remake I'm saying, you know, it's a double I mean, if you can't be us right. But so look, I knew he had the radio too, and if king him was light change it was, it wouldn't seem like light change due to the fact that you kind of owe me.

And if your name is on the Wreck and Choo and you do the remix, it's only fair you playing it on his show, So you know it was a little more to it than that, you know what I'm saying. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, now sorry, you're not signed. You know why you don't about all that. I don't know your side of the story because I was so green. You were season you understand I'm saying, so you knew like the first time we went on how honey, second we didn't even put on man n sluck us on it.

Get into it. Yeah, take your get your flowers right, damn pass. I'm the only thrown back to what did what did you do? How did you do? The stink us so hot? And he said, because that's really how we gotta do and correct me if I'm bro or I got stings school, I believe bought More signed to us, but mar Moore heard us on Underground Greater stay stretching mar More hard y'all't stretch about Beato. But we actually got the deal for after the day seven the Flex Ship.

I didn't think Flex like to me at the time. Yeah, it's reflex slove you. Oh yeah at the time, at the time, someone it wasn't someone sex like he didn't know you. You know what I'm saying. Now this should go like you're personable. You know, you gotta be personable with people. You know, motherfucker may not focus your music, but if you're personable, you drew him in, you know what I'm saying. So it wasn't even so much that I snug y'all on. It was more so like I

was very aggressive of my prose. And I just you know, when you when you know, like you bro shin, like you bro shin when you know what you got, you don't you undenia, but you don't take no for answer, you know what I'm saying. And um, you know the green COUCHI flying. The couple was flying the mirrors and flying the crab. Remember you know I'm choking out. Okay, green counter, all that was flying. But it was all

about getting a situation. And I want to I want to shout flex out because you know I went to flexing on flex had I think he had a gold gs and used he had a golden US and he used to pull up in the problem out of high Night seven and I wait from man and he was in. He was at the tunnel on Sundays and I go to I go to the tunnel and I bring a little bullshit bottle with moat and I would pass it on and you went to the tunnel where anybody went to the tunnel. Of the Tunnel was a club in

New York that bang every Sunday. They bang Saturday and Sunday. But it was a house night takes, but Sunday it was a hip hop night. So Flex was dead. DJ Jessica Rose Rosamond Lightly, it was all down. They did the turn of lightly Rest in peace. Um. So what I would do is go to go to the tunnel and I get a bottle for Flex. And if you've ever been been there at the time, the DJ booth was raised up. So I would go in the dance floor and passed on the bottle and I would bash,

here's the crazy ship Flex drink. At that time, it didn't matter, it was it was a gesture. See me, here's a gift. I'm expecting You're just not even talking. I'm not talking. So when I come again, you gotta respect when I'm coming you're telling me the Knight that you got us some honey set. It's nothing I want to say. I'm telling you that that I got swing A seven was. It was a night prior to that when I played some ship and he was like, yo, what's I. I can tell he he treated us. I

can tell he treated us like he didn't. He didn't. He was. He was like, it's not a He was like it's I and I was like, um, I was still not O, No, I know what it is. It's the ship you did with Tim Dog exactly. It wasn't on Pocket that. Yeah, it wasn't on Pocket. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you get history right now. I naver get it that we we we actually, but we're gonna say, but who started Lost Boys ship? That's because I wasn't. He didn't

ot doing the bed. I don't know a lot of listen to you about to say yeah yeah, yeah, yeah that was my man show. I went to him and I was like, yo, look I got this school and he was like, yo, listen, no I want. I was like, nah, man, this is the group because he wanted me and the group. He's trying to do some like some seventies exploitation ship because of the name. And I was like, na, respectfully, though I didn't want to shoot on him as I was crazy, man, he was, he was going to that's

the thing, like, let's take this shot. I not getting a little good. Yeah, But he was, respectfully, he was going too far away from the concept and I want, yeah, he was going too far away from the concept and the energy of what at least when I saw we had signed one of him, and I didn't want to take the Bogie's Fall album. I didn't want I didn't want him. I didn't want that to be tainted, you know, because like I can sit in and go through this man, but this just this ship is so rich and deep.

One episode won't even capsize this ship right here because it's a lot of different degrees to it. But long, stormy long, I'm gonna take you through a real quick so warm back to an original question, where it was that got us in the radio? As I basically said the flex, I said, yo, because I happened to beat there when my man since said man squad, I would have a car with let me just let you know something, your brother bring us up there and nothing, and we

were fighting each other. Now, he was like, took him to get him some light each thirsty, Like if you was listening to that radio at that time, you had to sign us, you had to come with us because we were fighting each other. Just it was one of these I remember that ship like this, Yes, I like, yeah, we show you that a certain person. We only had home make your story with your contact. So yeah, so long story long, Um, I wind up. I wind up being fortunate to be like a fly on the walls,

or to speak. When Milk corners and said brown the womb tang record to Flex, and Flex said, fleks, don't get mad at me. I love you, brother. You keep it green. When I saw a Flex not that long ago, he said, what I always tell you a story? Would I always tell him? I said, now, Normy tell me too, because you did tell me. You know what I'm saying. He was like, yo, I always tell Normy trash ma show. I played that record. That's he was like, I said,

not noring, tell me too, And then you didn't. That's all listen protect listen, he said, Yo, man, this is garbage. He did just say garlage. He didn't listen. I'm listen all stop don't like I'm pad phrasing. It was. It was a long old line. This is no disrespect because what I say later it's gracious. And I was spect flesh because I used that because now when I came with y'all record, wood Tang was already on the verge of becoming a landmark. So when he said, y'all don't

really feel this, I was like, who said this? Shanging about woomb tank. He was stuck. He had ton't let your own. So it wasn't a sneak attack. It was just long game. It was, Yes, it was a long game. That was now speaking of wood, you gotta joint? How did job? No, I'm at. I met Meth a few times, just like doing shows and ship. He was on the same deal a lot like over I think, I don't know that was like whatever, several like we did here, just doing like a lot of the festive festive people's

hands yeah, yeah, just can't do it. They performance. Yeah, like he was on the same bill, had a lot of a lot of the festivals, with a lot of the shows, and I would always just you know what I mean, like, I don't know, man. They always just embraced us and funk with us, you know what I'm saying. So I would always just go Ray Kwan and you know what I mean, my nigga Treny and you know

what I'm saying. You know, niggas being there and they're just you know, always just be like yo, man, I love what your boys doing, you know what I'm saying. Wants some any you know what i mean, just showing then And we just happened to be on mad different show, Matt Bill so turn and I just reached out with it like that like I was it. Yeah, yeah, I let my favorite would when I Nigga sent that ship back, that ship blew my mind, you know what I'm saying.

Not not because I didn't know how like that, he was just ill, but it just was like this verse was like I didn't you know, this verse was just out as the verses out of this world. I voted for a little back home really like yeah, you know what it is. It wasn't my shot out because take the shot out the way it's how he you can tell he still loves the game energy and you know what's crazy. And I'm gonna tell you my first time

I fell out of love with the game. First time I see somebody for the love of the game was brown, Broll told me one day. Out of love with the game. Out of love with the game, Brol told me one day, I'm not doing it, so I thought it. I took it like he was talking about me. You just don't when it were beat shooting. So I'm like, I'm pissed. Years later, twenty years later, I'm falling in love with drink chaps people were trying to do after doing record, I'm like, I'm not doing a hip ho hop. No

more Holy, let's keep it green better. I've called you one day. I just said, I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you what you said. It was deeper than that up there. I don't think your shun I got this little he said, Yo, man, When I threw a record, I felt like a whole I need that one. I've been talking around good keep going, That's what I said. Ship like a hold, and I was like, wow, But I understood it, though, and see what happened. I understand it.

But first told me that I really took it personally because I never really fell out of love with hip hop. You can't say it about drink chaps, because this is hip hop. You're saying you in the booth, he started doing other ship that wasn't hip hop. Nah, that's not Paul self, respectfully, respect I think the reason why I said I can understand it and I understood him because it's not hip hop. That's before I love it businesses. But we're saying the same thing you ever felt I

love with hip hop? Yeah, a couple of times, you know what I'm saying. The frustrating around Yeah yeah, Man, you get frustrated as an artist and you just get you know sometimes in life, man, as you grow, man, you know, chapters, you know, turn like you paid the term man, sometimes a new chapter. Sometimes you need to change your pace, you need something else, you know what

I mean. So I definitely has been times like man, I'm funk with this ship, but I still find myself right in shade and corn anyway, Like it's not a cook this because you know why you know what the crazy ship is? Are you thirty eight? Right? Yeah? Yeah? So, um, the crazy ship is. Like I said, I said, I had a lot of business today and I was telling him like different times of me dealing with a ground where I felt fucked up because I thought he was talking about me, So you might have thought I was

talking about you. Okay, you when you said that, tell you I've got it right away, I was like, you think I feel I'm not okay, it's just crazy because I don't know what else is was was bumped out, y'all both coming later. This is when I hear your music, but I hear people's music, I expect to see that image, right, and when I see a lot of people, like a lot of people, you'd be surprised. People who come on this show and be like, yo, I'm not drinking. What

like your whole fucking ship. It's talking about getting drunk in your ships, about slow giving bloods, and they're like, don't pass me up, and I'm not drinking, but you can have all to look like and it's crazy. So my point is being it up as saying, there's so many people who portray an image that don't live that image.

Is that something that turned you off? Absolutely? You don't have to name anybody's name, but people like all the time, like you know what I mean, especially in this business, Like like I was saying, that's the ship that makes you fall out of love still because of business. When you meet your hero, don't ever meet your hand or you're gonna beta pointed. That's the point of length. So I'm definitely I know that fine right there, Like motherfucker's

ain't the same. Now you've been coming the hand. Do you remember the first time I met Nah, I don't like men hanging up my last They knew what get you didn't get you a chair shot? Okay, I'm came the first time. I but I thought you didn't like me. I ain't thought that, yeah, because like olmost see, I thought we was saying optimist. It was the Altumis house alchemist boy I was, and I just thought it was ice thrill to me. I'm just like, damn, like I

thought he was. I thought he was like checking me like and I was like, oh, then I didn't realize, like you know what I'm saying, you guys got shot. I didn't know that. So I was like, well, like damn the ship, you know. I thought he was like, you know like that, but yeah, yeah, I stold it with somebody anyway. I don't know who I'm doing Sunday. He don't look at me, but yeah, So and then I had met west Side gun no excuse me. West Side had hit me on Twitter or I want to

hit and say when you're gonna have him? I said, yo, uh ten years, we have to have ten years. That's what Drake champions, ten years. But the thing is, I don't even give a funk if y'all got two years, y'all. Motherfucker's deserved this platform. Y'all fucking if hot, and I'm proud to like, I'm proud to make sure that I funk with y'all and do my part, because it's one thing to funk with you, but it's another thing to show the world I fucked you. That's gonna make motherfucker sucks.

Thank you. It's mother to say I funk with you, but don't funk with me in private. I think I'm gonna do crisis. Fun with me in public. Tell me I fought you the public, damnit. And I'm like, I wanted you to hold on the following. Just want to go like, I fun with you ahead, remember the fust out, Yeah I do. What wasn't you had a whole white the white crown with the white jump ball. My sister had told you to come talk to me because I was out of control point. I can't tell you what

yesterday to my gunaway. Yeah, it's just my way. You know what though, my man Carlos a classic material. That's my man. Like I met that nigga, and since I met that nigga, that nigga been really like a real true friend man. I considered that my big brother and he he had text me one day like, yeah, I was I was playing your ship for North. I was putting He definitely like a little video shafe ship. I think I like that short. I met him just in Brooklyn one day, you know what I mean. I just

popped up one him. I had seen him one time, like briefly. I went up there with west Side and then one time I was just you know what I mean, out of New York City and just sucking the wround. I was just like, yo, I pulled the boat there and just walked in there. That's crazy, just as my brother man. But we want to y'all. He was like, yo, listen. Yeah, he put a lot of niggers on. Yeah, he was on y'all early. It was early early. Is it anybody that stept on y'all? This was he was a little

disappointed with honestly, No, honestly, it's old. Man. I just feel like, I mean really really broad talk though, like we've always been slept on just as a city and itsierely. Like I said, man, you know, it's a lot of dope artists. It's a lot of you know what I mean, I do from from every R and B and you know production and you know painting or whatever it is.

It's it's a lot of talent and like and we just never really get the shot, like you know what I mean that you wouldn't get like m big cities like New York and Atlanta and all that. I kind of get the kind of come back because the actually he talked about it on the show, he didn't come at them. He just brought it up Michael, his mom. That's that's the remaining So he just said that he would like to talk to them just because he respected what they was doing with it, but he wanted to

talk to him about it. I do with him, Like I say, I actually saw that episode. You know what I'm saying. He's a good dude here, good dog man, and like you know, I just wanted to make it, you know, abundantly clear that we ain't you know, it's never was no offensive ship and nothing. He say, It's like, yeah, we really big. We were into the art aspect of it, and like you know, we used certain things that just make it. You know, that flying grimy west Side. You

know it's growing with this ship. And when he came to me with it with the name, like you know what you're thinking it should be called the ship Gagled the wreckage, you know what I'm saying. And I'm like, yeah, that's crazy, you know what I'm saying. And like you know, we never monetized off for like we ain't never put

like Rosella Blanco on the image. Just happen. I'm telling he's a fan of because like I just thinking about if we could, if we could, if you could, God bless is not head, you could get Cadocti in the video. While we like I definitely loved, like what I'm saying, I saw a lot with respect the legacy and like you know, you gotta understand, man, you know that was some flying ship. We were all in trade by. You know, when I watched the documentaries and ship, it's like, oh ship,

so it's like a Queens when Gauselle. No, that's when Queens had the best fucking like, no one went up town like it was a spot called twenty one Hump Street. It's a whole spot one Hump Street Street. I gotta put your talk severn years old because it was head you're like anybody who queens. That was the most funny Queens that I had. Like at that time, niggas didn't have to go up town. We didn't have to go see he was right. J Jackson. God, dammit God, I heard you when you pull up. You a't had to

get on. That was the best. That was the Queens hour like that that the game was numb with the ball movie about praying. Yeah, just think about that. Um no pre person. Yeah, it's funny because one of the first times we reconnected for like, you know, we kept reconnecting on the leaves, were reconnected right now, I got them, let's do let's connect keep going, we said. That was one of the first times we reconnected for the first time.

Brit he was doing the ads file. Oh that's right, and you came to the video and then it was kind of like it was in a big way house and ships the leading the what was I saying aggressive the mountains spring? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he was doing the hot spot. He was like, yo, pull up things you need to see. You know what I'm saying. The circle is chat. I was like, no, A right. I pulled up and no body was dead. Body body piece the body gy, No body, that's the old that's the

old g. That's my old set. I love, that's my old gum body G was dead. Pream pulled up and everybody was kind of like it was like a big warehouse typey shiatment. But I think it was in Brooklyn, but I'm not No, it wasn't. It was it sound years Okay, okay, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, anybody was in the room and and Priam was like off in the corner by myself. In fact, was I remember that ship and fret this green Eye being premised like patient And I came over and I watched how the

whole room turn over to watching. He was talking to me, you know what I'm saying. But that was my bro, man, It's still my bro, good dude, solid dudels, powerful guy. Remember prevent You remember a lot of people don't realize them. There's a lot of things I don't understand. Give me neither um that ain't gonna necessary to get ain't shoo. But I have a lot of respect for him. But what I'm saying a lot of respect for him, you know it's crazy. One thing, you know, me and Job

reliving the store to each other in geergy. Yeah, so one day, I you know, I had to drop as to Job. Had that motherfucker drop be I excuse me, dropped bits just like you a switch cars. I'm gonna drow the yourhood and draw to my hust and cool. That's kind of all just me and Job. No no security, no, no hype man, no nothing. We got through the dry girl bridge. And yet he called me all I called him? He said money guys. Yeah, they're gonna be sprat. What a good can we go to to stop either one

of these biggs take our ass back. And we were sucking us around. That's rare, that's like, you know what, it's trazy. I'm on One time I was in cheat, I was with ching Bang piece of ching Bang. Okay, yes, there's more problems, but I'm going I'm going to musing met the stuff. You know. Yeah, you know what's tragy I'm in cheating with ching bang and my brothers. Now, no cheats, just cheat, isn't just cheats in New York and my brothers sat a little broma shame m and

we used a little First Street with cheating. On twenty first three with Justice was the same. I'm sorry, I'm thinking strip club. So look so now I'm a little wobbly. So Prium pulls out when he's like yo, He's like, yo, what's she's doing? And and and see banging my brother then no, prim So when he moves in there like and I was like, na, no, don'ta do this? You this though I'm saying, he was like, yo, slipping right now,

I'm taking you home. So he showed me to the hood he had he had prizes Ferrari Foosi's prized at the Purple Ferrai. He had what's that's his name? We had props Ferrari. So he showed me to the price in the Purple and the Purple Ferrari and he's driving me, but he's building with me. He's like, yo, man, you can't be out like this. And he was right. He was like, yo, you can't be out like just comfortable like this. He supposed it to a queen's bridge in

the purple Fi purple Yeah, kind up video? Did you shoot after that? Nothing? That ship was just for the dud good ship though. I love him though. He's a good dude, man, real good dude, very powerful where we influential. But yeah, which things could have wait different ways for him, man bothers. But it's great you new black guess too. Yeah, of course course on those black black and yeah, I

love Blackie, love Blackie. That old situation and ship. So they're moving on bouncing around now, come on, way, So what is the actual affiliation with Shady Records? Um, we gotta label. We're gonna deal with them label. You know, I mean a partnership. Okay, what I'm saying with Shady in the school, you know what I'm saying, man, west Side Gun, what I'm saying, that's just y'all. Like it's just me and west Side. Yeah, they get that chicken.

There's falsible, that's what. Really, it was a little different than when we just doing it explaining. Yeah, that was a little different. Like now the it feels a little different. Man, it's small level now, like because it's a straight artist. Systems artists to consume the direct consumer direct man, that's all that ball. I love it. Okay, I love it. I won't be alive right then. I wouldn't be I wouldn't have been on this flight today. I'm saying if

it wasn't consumer there yet. You know what I'm saying, Like like, that's for the consumer, that's that's a thing consumer there, it's director consumer, it's the term. It's you know what I'm saying, to be able to capitalize off my league, stay with stay with you even more like that. Oh right here, it's okay, I got it. Okay, Yeah, the capitalize of my niche small. You know what I'm saying. So I love that. You know what I'm saying. I

love that. I love that Winds Before it was different where we had to rely on the label had he was taught to believe that were not of l because see, this was always a plan. We just this was always in place. We just didn't overstand name. You know what I'm saying, We're allowed of the game to dictate the pace. Tell us. You know what I'm saying, what's the brother's name, what's the name. That's all that was saying. Let's he

doing name and all, this is his name. Man. They though that was motor technis broad casting keep brought cashing the puffy he was doing a hen but listen, he understated, Yeah, this is Swift, like he had the first website where there I like for Swift, You know what I'm saying, like because he woulduce engineered and made all his beats anyway. Yea, even even outside that, he understand he understood the power and the value of perceived market and you perceived value

and show me a while to get that ship. You know what I'm saying. Okay, let's let's let's take another show. I got damn it, you got got there a call? Maybe we were here, baby, we're here, Baby, we haven't about because I don't though, Yo, that's real. That like the burn. I like the burn, maintaining keep my story the same soul. Growing up a buck, we had spots in New York hot beat what was it called hot beasts?

Like things were gonna get the records? Where did where did y'all have to Was it a common ground rocket you had? We had? We had? Yeah? So the same, how was that in Buffalo? Like you had like spots like Doris records, shout out my nigga, Big Pete, Um what else? What else? Daring like new New Style records? Uh? What else? What I'm leaving out? Ship? And she like that. You know, it was a couple of slots that you had to go what was the first album you have

before that? I have a bought you bought you old on my own probably was like, um, I don't know, I probably start fireback as I probably like like this was back in like the Red Man, Muddy Waters, Dr Trevis Ship like that. Yeah, Dr Trevish. I didn't have to buy him because of my uncle, you know, my uncle man, My uncle Anthony had he had everything. This is like a hip hop headass nigger, you know what

I'm saying. And I ain't lived. I lived with my grandmother and my you know, my two uncles, and listening it with I would just be always in there just like he had everything, you know what I'm saying. On By the time I started living with my mom's I started having to like buy my own tabes and ship. So it was probably like like ninety ninety five, let's probably you know what it was. It was nothing man made. I just thought of how to look how Life Comes. It was the cow the first rap album, my boy,

you know, come on, I'm gonna come in. I ain't even a general one no more. So you know it wasn't an album. It was a motherfucking single. The first single, I have a Bull. I ain't even a sham, sugar out, I ain't a sham. You know what I'm saying. I'm not even sham. The first single, I have a Ball spoony G Love Frat. I was only second grade and

I had a Mickey Mouse churn table spoony G from Philly. No, that's scooty d Okay, so what the bus spoony gee from up Chan Okay, yeah he can't still love that's what my ne it man. My first ship I ever, I didn't even buy it. It was granddadd Yeah, I dumped it. I went and a man bought it. My man, you bought an album though? Was the first album, you boy? I don't remember that for the first alum I ever owned was Chad Daddy. I you you with Smooth Smooth said like I said, I knew what girl named ken

you phone West Virginia or like stick something. Then I like to sing. I wanted to be a rapper whatever it be. I didn't know kick, but I crims to never use grand Daddy. That you stop if you notice, it's like when I tell you that's my favorite rappor people look at me like, yeah, you might be lying because I never I never wanted to. I wanted to admire him. But that's our error. Our error was, don't be like the nigga you a maya just salute them. Just the little room. That's it. Why is where did

that change? But you could like because like I said, great that you business Maarkey, grad you business Warkey and Couji wrap. If you put them through together, you actually get normy if you think of business Markey because of it, you know what I mean respectfully. I'm respect that you know what I mean because the bus Markey was the first person called a brown comedy to hip hop, like what do you what do you like? Bigger Bugus was the skin. That's my duey, that's my duty too. He

took me to my front show. Bus Markey Dad respected. I want I always want to play in the Juice Cool movie. I want to play busines Mark. That's that's what we're doing. So your hads, your bends. I love you man, I love you too. Wait thisen me some my funt show. I was no I was in queens bursh he wasn't. He wasn't queens Burs by the time I was in Queens when I was on the corner doing whatever funk I was doing, playing a fourteen. So the crack wow call me. I mean you just stop

drinking your so loose cracks too. I'm saying so that you you've talked to the crop. We're not gonna push. But bangnall know this guy, this this is a car car way on. So you understand that's going on. Cuez the only hood Queens to sound loose cracks. You know what that means. These things had a little bolder look. Look the truth like they had a this is they cracked.

So what they were doing is they were just the us all and then whatever and they happened and they heads fact because it was so out of crazy ridge. And I want to know. What I didn't know is how rich Queen's Bridge was because they was self doves. They were so doves like this, Wait a minute, she just looks like chicken. I say that. I'm surprised nobody started the room, but that I was smoking crack because

I listened. I used to go there, give me your whole pack, like I don't want everything, and I want can take that the left rack I do out of one of the twenties, So I queen rich you have know you don't even know. I was looking just looked at me like that. But the door best do bids. I was out there market, yeah, I was. I was on it. I was on the corner forty having the twenty front Street and big permum can. He was like,

what she's doing? But I was always. I was always with the work, so business, I get what you're doing. Was the calt service of Queen's Bridge. So Willie come and give me a gun. Two people that get to that, hell be to that. So anyway, Bench came to get me in the cab. He was like, yo, what she's doing. I was like no. He was like, yo, you want to do a show. And I wanted to do the show. And then crazy Ship. This is the first time I never heard of Queen lot Teeth from Queen lot Teeth

from before and Will Smith is performing Will Smith Storia Drink. Yeah, that was it was Will Smith. DA was like I didn't do so much ship, but I got some little before that because at an I was in al Mama, So this had to be before any seven early early then. Yeah, I'm deep in what was Will Smith's performing. He was doing some office shit. I don't even remember what he was doing, but I you know what made me remember him because I remember the DJ. Don't disrespect the Will Smith.

I didn't remember. I wasn't. When I saw the DJ, I was like, yo, I needed J Yes. I was like, dude, I needed And that's what made me remember Fresh Prince, I'm saying. And it's funny because Fresh Prince later on he fucking promoted my album and telling the Hood him on his show without nobody, my, no management reaching out to him. The Fresh Prince he said that jas MC guy. He was like, yo, you know it was the help poet and tells you he was an elpoet. My mom

and Malcolm Maxie had my post in the back. And you know it's funny because that wasn't management, that wasn't nothing. That just was being organic, you know what I'm saying. No GM Moe who somebody was shouted you out with you anything? Uh Alasia kids. Yeah, that was that. That was one of my closest friends. I've never I think I've only been in the room with at these kids one time. I've never been that might be never spoken't matter,

I've never been around. Which was like, yeah, it was like I've seen somebody tagged me in the sign she was doing like I don't know what show she was on or whatever, and she was watching like the Dr Birds video because she was like just a little there like yeah, and I just fired, you know what I'm saying.

And recently like like I've seen like Vanessa Hudgins had posted like dr Birds and like funk away that this ship is like ship kind of me blowing my mind like a lot of the people that Jail Scott, you know, me shouting out to Jail Scott. That was another one, like damn jail Jil Scots was beautiful. It's not that people shot y'all out. These people shot y'all off for being in y'all. Yeah, that's bringing in ship world and you don't world commute. That's what we did. The minute

you're going state world, that's that's what we're doing. A drink chance. We don't go into the world. Everyone comes to our he was came to Florida. He couldn't come to a certain but he booked a hotel, but we booked except the room, just because we want to be in control, like um And that's what you tried to say. I told you when I filmed these documentaries when I was in South Africa about a year ago. It was

in South Africa. Yeah, the serious that I'm doing, and we was in trying to kind of it's it's like it's coming home. It's coming. It's like a hip hop documentary series where we're traveling the stuff and we live with the cats and the ship. And it was by um Mandela's old crib and then there's a hip hop station, underground, hip hop station four one, hip Hop. I want to shout the Mountain. The first thing they played was RESULTA. They went, but it's about a year because in Africa

we were still finishing the documentary now South Africa. Yeah yeah, yeah, they played and they didn't just played one record. They went into a whole result of mix why And it was like that's how I started to see see what was going I love about that shoutout, shout out, and I was just gonna say like shout out the shout out to Africa, man, like we get a lot of love. Like I'll be seeing the posts and the comments and the love and ship they'd be shown. Man's just it's

just amazing, you know, to get that kind of love Motherland. Yeah, man, you know I was gonna say me, you know as well. Um, Like somebody posed me with this question, what did it was like, Yo, if you could go back, what would tragedy Shay young tragedy? Yeah? You know, I'm saying like when you was going through be a struggles, you're still were all still going through shuttles. But there's no way

in the fucking world you would have matched. I know you shouldn't here the same the shot beloved, But it's just me, you know what I'm saying. Correct me if I'm wrong. But I don't just say earlier he was like, Nah, always knew there's no wind in the world. That's confidence, Paul self, Paul selves, I'm kidding something, and I said, it's respectfully. Use the reason why I say this you might have known. She ain't really know, Like you know how I know you didn't really know because I didn't

really know. I guess what our hands wouldn't have got so dirty. Would imagine you were the knew he was a prince all along. Choke to me, beloved, lit I feel you know who Man like to tell you like niggas always like I always knew, Man, I always I didn't know it would be this because you always ship. But I always knew, like yr West, I'm telling you once you when niggas get and westen them always felt like that West, like I felt like that more than even I did any day, Like listen, I'm telling listen

to my nigga. Why I'm telling y'all. We always knew that once we got our shot, the success was gonna come to take fold. So we just like, let's just stick to what we do, stick to the plan, man, do the work, and however the ship playout, this ship playout, you know what I'm saying. And I just always had that confidence what you had to ship, you had the fun more try ambition. Yeah, because of course I didn't know, like yeah, because nation signed the eminem you know that

you give up. I knew, like man, once the right people heard us and once we got our turn, I knew what it was going to do because I know that crazy, were the only one who took them another you catch up? What'll catch up to y'all? Hold on, wait baby wants wait wait watch we offended me and the fact to ice Cube Traking was saying, straight, ice Cube, mat too crazy. You have a taste, you have a head taste. I wanna baby thing that taste. Yeah, you don't want to be treating something. I don't want that.

You don't want that, so trash, we gotta go there. It's the record I made thanks to you? What a dick? You what? Mat? I thought? I'm gonna say something else. It's called sometimes great record, and I say being trash kicking on the hand. Then the really hang too top but the but the love is dead. But that week you correct me about gong a record releases? Black? How did how did we get there? What's happened? Stop too much? No, no, it's seven too much. I know he was coming respectful respectively.

And that's why how did you get them? Because I'm gonna be honest, and I know me and you we falled by this off the head right and we're great, We're the great. I really love where you at. But I didn't understand because here's a deal. I'm leading. Then this is what Left told me back in the day. Left this is and I left was a kid back there, So Left say big bro. So Left say Tad was mad that you took a record that was on the war report and you put it on the front talking

about I'm leaving. I'm believe now I've never actually heard your side of this ever. I like how you weigh so casual. You throw this out there. You know he was coming with you, But I love it keeping on my Okay, let's let's get to it. Let's get it. Had nothing to do with the record. Any want to talk about this right now? I know he don't do that.

History people not man ain't know what this a good chime, man, because at the end of it, if I walk, if you don't, if you and me don't walk away from this table or love, we can't even funk with this ship, then when not when we say we are and I'm not going out like that, I'm not going out. Ain't that it had nothing to do with you putting that record over there? Do that was? That was? That was

a bite? Yeah, that was a bite. You know I'm leaving because because the homie went away, and I hadn't I had the something I understand in that space, right, and you know you do. I ain't even want to do that. You know I ain't even want to round almore so, I starting for the homely place, and I'm putting minds up useful to put yours up, You know that. But that's why I was confused, because you know you didn't like that I'm leaving. I did you know I

did it. Don't don't let it go to you. When you're talking about the birth right, you're not talking about the actual song. I'm yall, yeah, happened that day. You remember happening that day because I remember it like it was yesterday. Could challenge to me, okay, you know, but lack of a better term, I gotta keep it. I like your Frank Queenberry. Poem became a horror he found out he was about to get sentenced. This is real ship right trash, and Poem just said, fucking he wants

to funk every girl in the world. No Matc made was head earlier, but Poem lived out that song waiting for the way I wish I get fund and the girl in the world phone really literally when he found out he was getting sentenced. He tried to funk everything, so he didn't come to the studio that day. That day, I was hanging out with my grandmother's crib rest in peace. Nana. Didn't you make a south side of South Well, no

south side, but around the south side? Okay? Cool? So she played me this record, don't Tink a Coat Ahead the brand newby and Joint, but you got just So what happened is it's the first time I went and easy LP he was there. I was like, yea, you ever heard this record? He said, you want to rhyme on that? And I rhymed to that because mind you now, I threw Poe under the bus, and I gotta throw you under the bus a little bit too. I'm never was awsome morning. Listen, we're doing? What the fund are

we doing? Y'all all was suing? Just come on, they say that shame. But so y'all came late to the studio that day. I can't let I remember, I got, I got, let me say this one and you tell me. Look. So what happened was I did this show on my own, and when trash walked through. This is what made me mad at poem because Boom walks through, was says, Yoe, this is dupe. I'm like words like I ready for track, like just flavor trash like it was. He was like, what is this? I said, when we sample, we don't

sample like puff daddy, sample like apic. My dreams was rush because I really thought out the right and you know you do remember this unique studio. Okay, and so this is the reason why when it was brought up that they know to beat between your trash started over when you're taking up leaving backet. I knew that that had to be bullshit. Am I correct? No, that wasn't

It wasn't necessarily bullshit. It was accumulation of things. They wait a minute, a minute, I'll go to wait if we're gonna Tonly, I got you you when you pull up, I didn't have to this call you guys. Gotta be this celest let's stay right here. I'm sorry. Now listen, m hm. So you know what, we can look out the same window, she two different walls. You know what I'm saying. You can look out the same window and

she two different worlds. Now, this is a true relation of things when you look at these times when like for me, I like family, money, niggers, just learning the business. You learning the business now, and you're getting told the business outside of the entity of meeting rocket here, right. You know what I'm saying. They say't ego, This ain't the ego. I'll stay with me because you know I'm wich.

I'm simper with you. I'm just like like, so it's like, it's not just the so on, it's it's you said in the beginning he was like, Yo, I put up for things that I didn't even put up for myself. Remember that, So you gotta know that's really you know what I'm saying, Let's get let's get to it. So now for you to say that, that means you gotta soon understanding then they get you fucking now. It's not just you using that song over there. I don't and

I've told you this. We had this conversation to I don't even you gotta bag over there with that song. It's the fact that how you got the bag and how you came back with it because you felt like you might have felt like yo, oh son sony, you tell me I can get it back over here. You're trying to No, no, you don't don't understand. I'm saying, look nor bottom line is this right? It wasn't so much the songs accumulation of things. This this dude going to jail me and compone for those that doing on

component is going to jail. Right. I'm telling him you listen, you need to do more songs because this nigga I'm talking about Boma. You know what I'm talking about. Just dude right here, his work ethic. It's not gonna be a group album. It's gonna be his album. Yeah, you're talking about to see in an album. Man, I keep it greeting. You know that. I said, Yo, this is just this needs to be a group album. And your work at Wort's talking about the world pop and your

work effect. Poem is now your work ethics. Now you want to funk, you're going in the can. I don't know that word which is said nothing like it's never, no, it's nothing, it's light. Oh I don't know that. Yeah, yeah, your work ethic, it's right. He knows the word. I had to I had the career to convinced him to do Poembone hen't want to do poem. Bon, he don't want to do like he want to do No, he really ain't want to do no songs. So now and you go, what I'm leaving and you put I'm leaving

a whole nother album afterwards. Okay, I'm staying, but trash up because remember those people listening and watching them don't know what the funk y're talking about. Let me let me I always say this to me. Let me interject, because I'm fucking confused, super big up. I'm leaving the beating all no, not to be just the verses, just the same as that versus and the same as that coral. I don't want to. I don't want to. Bottom line is this man. Bottom line is this man. And they

felt I felt betrayed. I felt betraying if I put if I'm putting all this into this into the circle, why are you going outside of cingle? And Paul said, putting all this into the circle. No matter what thing you've been fucking with me, I'm saying you've been you've been fucking with me up until this point. Now I'm a feeling down fucking I'm the Emperor. Don't say I'm dol vaded and all that. Nigga like we carry this with us, and it's not now I'm not sure. I'm older.

Now I see it for what it is. You know what I'm saying. I'm trying to brow to like you know what I'm saying. This was a long time coming. But at the time you got understand nobody was looking out for us. And I'm and I'm a legal I'm a little more emotional or passionate about the passion. Everybody's emotional. Every man's emotional. So your words was when I said, Yo, I'm going on to the to the firm problems like, but we was there the word for it all that

was just my mentality. I'm just a homebugger. I'm like, Yo, nobody was talking with us, but we had to see she can win from fire, right, said yeah, that was it. That's right, still my sacks. But now listen up, like fun with me, because you know what, a lot of things and I'm gonna say this man, a lot of things in between those times and in between those misunderstandings and miscommunication lead to a lot of bands, yeah, and bad feelings. And I came here today. I'm gonna keep

it super green about me. Right, this man will offer me to come into the show million times. But you know where I come come because I can't be fainting. I gotta come when I'm in a certain place with me. And like he said, he said a Breathfleace club, I'm a welcome project. Maybe I am, and maybe that's all I will ever be in the minds of the people. But see, men, I'm just aorganic And I'm never gonna get on my knees for that. And and and I'm

gonna say what I just say. When you love a certain energy like to me, nobody can tell me know about my family. Flex couldn't tell me no. He'll say it right now. When I'm with my family, nobody's telling me no. It's like I put anything on the line for that. And that's school and what I am. And that's all that really was to some everything up. I don't want to get into all the dynamics because we could do that again later. It's okay, It's okay, those great.

The thing is this. The thing is this When I found out that was like thecrepancy. That's why I had a problem because I remember me playing that record for me saying, yoall and you said no. I was like, I didn't so it was a record. So what do you feel that was your record to do whatever you wanted with sauce? He said, he wasn't really you know what it is. I'm gonna be honest. I'm like you said, you keep it it honest. I'm gonna keep it honest. Um. I felt like Trash wanted us to be the goddarress

of the Goddarress and then not to compromise. He was right, But I just saw a different light at one point, like I saw something else. I was like, yo, because you can help me with this one. When you make street music a lot of times it's not club music. It don'na making sense, like when you make street music that you can't put it for full that like that like Buster, hey what she was saying. No, I was like I was enthused by that, like watching Buster balance

his life. I'm gonna making sense absolutely, you know what you asked me. I'm making a tole sense. So what I wanted to do was I had idea to bring us bigger. I couldn't not. But you know, no, I couldn't not take a lot. There you go, I could not make said that was the problem, and it could be anxious and to be honest, recommended it wasn't just on you, and because it was on me too that

you walked through. You walked through like prince, you had two girls like I'm sorry that two girls like and they had full back like this is not it, nor I was like I still do listen now, but that's not it's just solely on you like as men today. See this is why this is important. As men today like a lot of ship, like like the streets like right now, man, the comments, I mean, all that ship. They want us to be out our fucking drums and you know, one beloved for us to be out each

other as drops to rob some legacy. Wait a minute, hit me out. And that's something we cannot do for other that look in my eyes. But we cannot roll the legacy, for our ego, for our pride and our lack of communication. But we can't wrong the legacy. That's all the facts, because you know, because you know the legacy. The legacy didn't birth this, but the legacy helps give him a place. Yes, right, the legacy can't be wrong. And you know what some time and the only reason

you know, I love poem. Of course we do don't used to want me and you're bull has because me and you are the same. We got a lot of ways you like. You know what I'm saying. Put your phone down. This is messages for you, meg for I'll be hitting people. You know what I'm saying. Make sure you all got shipped all the fact, all the fact show and it was. It was a lack of communication and we was young. This come on, how was you? I'm only to you, but let me swisch this southing

for one second. How hard because I'm gonna be honest, this is a moment when you stepped up in a crazy way. I got the money bags, money bags for my building. I got the money bags to bring Nas to the studio. You know that we have to money bags brings Nas to the studio. Now, I was gonna do this record as dust the record. I sort of play a game. I sort of play. I didn't know the money bags later verse, money bags later verse that version actually comes out? How it comes out, I don't

know how. Maybe it was a money back. But how hard was it for you to set your back? Your versus not right? You know you know how hard it was to hold on want Let's describe who eat money bags. Yes, I'm super killing all the facts. This is a killer et money bags looking from my building, not my hoods, your Paul sell. I just seen John King. He just came home. That's bad people. He just came home and see him two weeks you home, okay, just can't home.

Let's describe this because you come to the session, you impressed, probably that I got naws in the session, but you immediately become executive moment and you say your verses perfect this verson buts and you know what you're daring. You left me out there. I didn't. I'm sorry you love CC. Look let me take you to the politics, just the politics. Bags in the street. Bags kind of helped Liaison. The nas verse didn't broken too, so he didn't want to tell back. That's why when you say I did not

know bad Na, you knew. But you know what, I'm not slow gass. I don't there with no slow gases. So let's get you what. Listen who it was? You go to the studio, So I go to the studio, I step off. This is that this is I think it was probably unique a qual one of them joining at the qual. It was not unique it was qual its fight the pop. I hear that, yes, so I leave the um, I leave the studio. The song is done. I'm like, Yo, this ship is crazy. I ain't gonna lie.

Easier shouts easier people don't listen all the time. His fingernails is a little long, but he made a better I love something. I love something. Now I keep an keep it easy. LP is a genius because that boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom, like only y'all coming up behind that. Y'all saw that. YA wanted to put a vote to that? Right, then that's easy, LP.

I love you for that. And yo, when that magic came together in the studio, ain't gonna lie if you listen to I'm gonna get a little more, and they listen to if you listen to the adlets when niggas is doing the versus you here, dudes say a certain ball and you'll hear other dudes because they caught their hit. Like, because this ain't the era of you know, you'll send

me to send me to track. Everything's right there, so Nas is there, he's there, and I'm there, So now I'm spending I'm spending my first and now he is in the booth with me, and I said, sir line and nas go like I hear all that type of ship later and I know the shouldn't know what love is before you learn when the thugg is now we need to see to be raised by their mothers. I've seen the whole raised brothers killed too many of us and then lying between the freedom and the foul judges.

And I heard something and then he going and you you minute, listen, listenis got these things like I'm going week. I did them all the earlier, but this is the time when dudes wasn't bouncing versts on the email chemistry me in, we're doing it. So now I leave. It was a Tony Romans. This is midtown Romans. Doesn't just anymore. So, you know, so we've been in the studio, having reach in the studio. We was in the studio prep like two or three months straight. So I was like, yo,

you know what I need to go? Give me a rap and beef friends CoA saloon from Henny. So I'm going to Tuny Romans. I'm over there for like an hour, maybe an hour a half. I come back he's gone, Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't have left of your person or something. You know what it is. You know what it is. I wouldn't have left. They've been with me. Let's do it. Keep talking not yeah, so sip is it. Don't gotta leaves to leave or whatever. Go get something to eat up,

come back. He's going. Now's gone back. So but I feel good because to me, like we got certain joints. But to me, this is that to chaunting and and too let's be clips on it. Let's clip he's he's fucking quint essentially. I'm like, you know we got quintessensual. So I'm like, yo, I'll tell the internet. I'm like, you play that ship back. I'm filling myself like my sauts Paula. I'm not gonna play that ship back. He plays it back, and then I hate bags first, and

I'm like, we can't do that. You know who bags it's or do you not know function bags? I don't that conversation go when you because you you not saptam. I don't want to say step to him, but you actually told him like as a man, like, YO know we were doing we were doing the QB finest albums album. He was in Sony he can't do it, he can't throw and he was like you saying came from God everybody. And I was like, yo, what's something? He was like, you know, and I was actly, and you said, your wife,

you take my verse off that record? Now, I was like, yo, your verse is whack. Oh no, there's no I respect him. He's a rare legal recipe. Real dude, he said, I expect that just like that. Who let it go? And had I thought about where it could go, I might have. I might have shown a little water different bad so I would have still know. I didn't put too much, but I would have said I would have said it was but I would I might have showed a little

more diplomacy. What I'm saying, something is something that's lived to kill, something that's killed live. You know what I'm saying. That was a tough one right there. Damn. I was just you know, keeping the creambery. But what else you got? Yeah? I got more of that you Yeah, yeah, someone see your versity like yeah, around, but I want you want

you know. I was definitely you know what I mean, you know, early coming up, like No, I was in you know, the feature game like I was just taking them the bag, like you know, I need to works that there's a lot of that ship was trash. I ain't gonna you know what I'm saying, No, I don't

know what threats because he did regardless, Yeah, threats. I actually thank those guys for those for the opportunities and then consider with me to fast do a joint woman for regardless of the money, just even considering me, you know what I'm saying, because you know it did a lot for me. You know, man, In case I just want you to I want to be in the way. In case you don't know your legend, time it's too late. Thank you. You're out here with the greatest thank you chances.

In case you don't know, you what the greates. You're not looking at the greatest no more, you're looking at itself. I'm not to thank you. You have to. You have forgive me, forgive me. I'm not gonna call your legend, not that you ain't. Wait wait, hold on, wait, wait, you know why I want you a round a little. He's gonna be around. He couldn't gonna now he's gonna be around. We want more. Well, but y'all prove y'all ain't approved. Baby, hold on very quick, trust me, bro,

they send you with this ship like a skeleton. What I'm saying that one of the first people you work with was proud of you. Um, that's like, you know, you know the guy, you know what, I could what I call him back homies, you know that you know the league before, right, Yeah, Pete was one of the first niggas. You know what I'm saying. I met that niggah.

I was already I already had a relationship with with Tech from Smith of Western you know what I'm saying, Like that was the only and the niggas happen to niggers had a show and you know what I mean in the time, like not in in Niagara Falls, not in Buffalo, should like twenty thirty minutes from Buffalo. But anyway, you know, I had Tech. I see the flyer and like Niagara Falls is kind of like it's smaller than Buffalo.

So I was like that bump me. I like this ship gotta be cat like, I don't know what this nigga did. So I called Yeah, So I called Tech like yeah, now we were Yeah, you know what I'm saying, We yeah, where we were at. He sent me the addie. I pulled up like, you know, make sure you know niggas is good and all that, and you know we got the Airbnb or whatever. You know what I'm saying, We right DNB back there. Yeah, yeah, I'm going there. Cool.

So look you good dreaming what you get. But yeah, so we end up anyway right in to the to the show with them niggas. It was Smith and Western and Mob deep on on the you know what I'm saying, salute okay, so Western and the Mob deep bet we ride to the show with them niggas and we just m it was like some opening act niggers still on on at the stage. So we just like back like behind the ship to go We're going the back door to the stage or whatever. So we're out there with

with tecking them, you're smoking and ship. Then we're paying pull up and it's you know what I'm saying, tech like, oh yeah, that's the mob right there, you know what I'm saying. Then show minutes later, like the door open, his peak hopping out and like say signed something to me though, like you know what I'm saying, and he knew, like yeah, He's like, yeah, that sing. But I'm thinking I didn't even really register what he's saying, Like you

feel me. I'm thinking he's talking about the niggas that's up there. That's the opening niggas, that's wrapping that we can here right now, And I'm like, who the niggas? And n like, yeah, you know, I'm talking about nigga. That was in your early stages. It was in the early stages. I was still it was still se like, yeah, we gotta do some ship. You know what I'm saying, We gotta we gotta do something, man, And I'm saying that I too, take my number. You know what I'm saying.

I think Dre was there right jot, yeah, like go ahead, right to do it instead of making noises, do the opposite of that. Let's give b alright because he claimed twill Street, he's not fun twill Street. Let's give twelve seconds of size should be there to Day's just be there the only ship the day, So let's get let's give him twelve seconds of size right now. Hey Bob, good money. Tappy brags you got there and it looked album.

You know what I mean? You always bum heash I mean he's the same door that off And I love you because you actually took what I had to give and you utilized it. And I expect that this ship is not to go to waste. You know it's not to go. We're riding on shoulders. And let me tell you what you're talking, bro, I mean that ship we used to be in the studio. I never brought bitches

to the studio, not once. On the more, if you remember that, I remember anything because your poem burner bitches clear to play the way back then, No, you're the mos clear spassing faith mos. I love favor on the man. She gave us a shot. She saw albatic your faith doing me give us a shot. You sa face, look look I'm going no no, no, look look look see look you know what you're doing. It's respectfully, that's what you get it all. I didn't understand the moves you making.

Back then to that, as I became a cr said, damn. He took room for the team. He was taking. He was taking taking one for we were taking gold. Remember, thinking said let's go, you're doing out of work. I'm doing peace peach can we talked about getting deep. Took one for the team all. Who's the who's the slut of your friends? Jesus, I like this man, like, ain't doing nobody's pretty good. Yeah, come on, I'm gonna listening. Your poem was not going a lot of base. I'm

not grandma. People love it. I just not wna county. Y'all's not gonna. I'm not gonna count. I ain't gonna. I'm not count I'm not to budget. Don't get budgets. You know what I mean the budget the budgets got got Oh my god, this is terrible. But were just doing hold so holy ship. This is real history that I really, I really appreciate this, and I appreciate you being a part of this. You don't you know what

things laying in the banking singing. I think music, but I don't think the black Tony mont Tama right here, like this last feel like trying to make it tingle that said, come on, that's queens. It's queen though, that's not how he does Okay, I'm bugging out. Yeah, back little so by the door. Yeah, so that's the reason why I just because I made sometimes I know we're kicking. I did. I'm sorry. I would get a little deep. I didn't. God, you ain't. Let I think he didn't

you did, I don't actually wanted. I had no body else who had an I D. So I actually wanted you to fly out with him, man, because yeah, back then it ain't have I D. So she was like saying something, I'm very I'm leo, I'm very proudful. One thing about me though it's a prime too. He burn the premium early. Few things I learned from prayers very important, he said, Yo, when you gotta figure that they go out,

he's dangerous. I'll never forgetting on one. So he said, you all the four men that have love, few you gotta expect you these are something Jewels and Cavia with what I'm saying, it's a real ship though, that's all you know, always expect And I know it was different differences at that very moment, but I was just a person first, Like that's why the Mike Roni interviews, that seems crazy. That is so crazy, maybe because that was good crazy, that was so crazy, Like that was so

he was so like that was bad. Yeah, you put it all on the table, you know what, because that's when hip poppy is like, that's what most we get past. Most we get past the designers, the pageantry, and the labels that we have no interesting and has no interest in us. That's really just layers. Most we get past all of that. Then we're able to stay focused on what this fucking coach is really about. Are we were in Gucci? We've been in the Gucci. We need to

be believing. Let's I don't as you should you are Gouci. State's racist? Or Dad and drip because both okay both goddamn. I ain't gonna say that I don't sunk with it. You know, you're never fun with it, not paid for down in the last few years, they're back in the day. You know what I'm saying, I like all that should that be doing? You know what I'm saying with that that I'm top damn little ship. I made that crimbing stitch. I'm funking h cramping stitch. I'm trying to see see

look at ship. Look we gotta make this ship our own because look, we don't tell our story. Someone else come in and tell our story. I'm just for turning it around this whole a wig man. Why not? It's you're afraid though, That's why we're here drink cads. There you go. Hey man, buddy, l A l A. What was the hold hold up? Hold up? Because when you guys sent the beat got remixed. The original one is is New York, New York, right, the original beat, and

that's why you couldn't clear it. I just wanted to clear that up before. Yes, I have nothing to do. Don't say that, I say. I want to say that stretch on strong pieces, stretch on piece to Asian bart hos arm On, that's his pops um. They pressed up the white label. They helped me print. Yeah, we came in as as on the the partnership. Excuse me. The thing about L A l A See, I like this type of day because you know what it kind of it kind of killed it, kind of it bothered me.

I'm gonna keep it grant because I watched I listened to Prodigy again. I've read interviews with only Wait, I've read interviews with to take credit for L A l A. P Yeah, man, play times. Notice I haven't never did that. There's a reason why I haven't never did that because there's a connection there. That's and that's not to say many haven't always got along the same way. Me and him. I didn't always get along, but there is reason why I havn't ever did that. Because, let's be clear, prot

he did not want to be in the record. He did not want to be on because of the politics. I don't even know why. I don't care. Why listen, listen, listen, Let's get through the ship man. I'm not gonna have listen. Man, I'm not dispectful because I'll be looked at as being a damn dashing because I'm passionate. You said it earlier. The difference, I'm very passionate. I'm passionate for this ship. Man. You not understand I've been doing this ship since I

was eleven years old. Bro, I'll be passionate. Hold post out not to cut you when we at all. I don't know, bro, you took your verse off at l A l A. How do you were sitting and trying to take wing for this ship? Bro? And I'm never said nothing, not one time. I don't get emotional like that. Can you tell me if I'm warm? What happened was the day before we were shooting the video of Steve riffly called Judy because and they said the Prodigy did not want to be a part of right fact, Steve

from came out that night. It came out that night, so we feel in the video that was on a Friday, so we feel in the video on a Saturday. On a Saturday. I spoke about this on my Grono video because I was so mad, You're not going to be in Queen's Bridge. But we went to crazy but we feel the video and then Peace showed up. But he showed up because he podcast just dropped. You just gotta

sticks out. You died for the sad and and and the reason and the reason why Prodigy he took his verse off was because he said JFK on our way to l A. He was the only person who referenced because we didn't know there was this first of all when we did that record right but people don't realize this. On the New York New York version that which you couldn't clear the beat, we did a skit. It was

like hy ful U. Yeah. So what we did was we did a skit, but we never really went and nobody because what I said, I said, they didn't really go at us, didn't go out, just referencing. So that's not go at them on this. We're gonna throw a wound and shot history. Yeah, we're gonna throw one and

shot the way they throw one a shot. But at the same time, like when the record, when it was time to put the record out, p didn't want to have his first on the record, and I was like, yes, it's not on the because I just want to make sure it's not on the dog Beat version. Yeah it is. There was wasn't on the White Lab of course on the way Okay, so I got but now I want to sound for the ship to come out. He's like yo,

and I'm like, yo, what are you doing about? Because and don't get me wrong, I know Fat Jojie man and I love Fat Joe the whole time. I got a Fat Joe because I did an interview with a friend of Garson arrest in Peace. Both had COVID. It was crazy not COVID. So by the way, he called me every day when I had COVID. He called me when I had COVID, snake's grace, snake to my face alright, moving on dough. So now he took his verse off

and I was like, dude. I was like, cool, you can take it verse off, but the way he did the hook was so in the pocket, and I was like, Yo, you can't take that from me because this is gonna lie my niggers out my life. I'm about I'm talking about. I was like, do we need this? We need this alley, And that's why Pete he wanted to take his first and his hook off, which I didn't understand until later because what he did was the verse he put on l A l A. He put in, Yo, yo, pieces.

I don't know what it is with you, but Nicks gets the dudes when they come in then keep crazy. I don't know what yo. When he come in, yo, niggas gets to due when he's come to nas. I don't get it. But whatever, peace King listen you know. But he was like, yo, all I got to take my post and I was like, yo, you're not taking a home off though you won't do that my life.

And then hit him up dropped. I think it was hit him up dropped that same night and I felt that and I was like, damn, because he's not coming to the video. This is my first video. It's my first video, by the way, and I told him trashy, I said, yo, listen, I can't be Prodigy. That can't be my Gerontogo can't be in Queensbridge. I can like I'm from Queensbridge, I'm from leapt Rock, my whole different cloth. But he's thinking about budget muss. She's like, yeah, got you.

I've never went to crack and I got if you look at the l A l A videos, at the twist and mind. I just shouted, like the last week on this block, well the next block, I don't exactly don't work. I don't know what I'm doing, Mau, but you know what I'm doing mouth and I'm back there and I'm like, damn, I'm just I'm just blunting. That's my first time met in cole Mega kills me about

that you want and that's what you'd like each other? No, because I was like, yeall hated each other and I was when I was like, I was just what kills me about your I was like I've been began now like I didn't get him, you get him now he kills you do get him? Since he will be honest. She crazy to me, Magan is a batter personce these turn Muslims and yeah, I love this. She took I love it. No, since she took a shot, you like it, I love her. Actually, I've been on Shoda, I've been

on old in schools. It does. I'm saying, I love you, I love y'all, but it just kind of sucks me up. No, no, sinse you here drinks. So I'm just saying, don't say you don't get mad. That's what you're saying. No, what I'm saying it is, that's what you're saying. Bro. Like I'm being honest. That's what You're gonna shut up, and then I'm gonna answer. Actually a watchman on them up. I'm gonna let you're chalk. And then when this time you don't get it was good. You know what I get.

I get calling, I get calling, I get resell the moment I get that ship, y'all. You know why that ship is clean berry. You know what I get that energy man? Oh, I have a god was energy man. But the way you yahny a little shot? Come on, baby, you drinking? You drinking that dude? Come on, baby, you men give each other's scary to me because both of yours ain't even lady each other. And I don't. I was like, yo, nah nah na, yes, I do. Remember I agree with you want me but set but as

we all gro here's a crazy sho. I can't look at a person who they was, then I gotta look at who you are now. I'm not mad. And and if you want to swn and you can sit there like nice, No, don't drill ship because I just felt like I felt like Mega, for lack of a better term, was supposed to be NAS and I feel like at one point Mega took it out. Nice, you're good? He did? You see that ship? No, what what happened? Let that burn away? But what happened was stap Mega got locked

up and Denis fulfilled that position. So I felt like like Mega coming from that rack, Mega had more bars than NAS did coming from that. Who's this guy right, that's Boris. I haven't said no, No, he's a Rubian wresting the Boris understands me. Why are you guys to let me talk to us? I got I'm sitting about brace, I'm home for five pracious. He gets it. No, don't laugh, you get it. What he wants back here, he gets it. He gets it. He gets it. You're making us fun.

He gets it. Man, you're making us so fucking proud, bro y, and don't fucking stop leaving, sir. I don't shot us, yo, oh shutting it out, and I was shutting it up, but I shot me up. Yeah so good. Yeah, no, can't say it out loud. I neway. You know he's an excansion. He's an excansion, and what's fault? At least go on my shelf. Man, you go on the counter, and you know you do something man like myself. I mean you shout of nil my sidings and the great he'd be agreed. Yo, you know what this is? What

I say, you know what it is? Because can I take this speech? Take this speech, take the floor, don't take take the trash held on side. Look, look, I don't know whatever. I don't know how you ever felt. Hold on, we can take it. I don't know how you ever felt when you man, you don't felt like I was going somewhere without it. But I always wanted to stay home. I always wanted to be too far too. I always wanted to I even wanted to be gonna manage. At one point you did. Listen, Wait, you know what

you did, and listen. I'm gonna be honest, you think you see I'm gonna be honest. That's what people don't understand. You did. And this is why I say, like you know we we you know, being young and prideful. I was on that street. I was on that street circle, I was on that ship. And then you go outside of the line. Remember like even with bags, bag took some money promoting the show, and the promoted in me. It was like mess respected she packed to eat money

bags to promoted him. He was like, yo, y'ah are supposed to plump for the show. And I was like the show. I said, who are you paying? He's like, yo, I pay you know each bagage. Who's the only managing? He said, eat money bags. If I told you you know this, you know this a little bit. So this was another reason why I calmed down. There. There's a lot of sensides, like I said, a lot of layers to the ship and like this is watched some point like for them right now with that, you don't aid

your dirty longs. You got no end, no vote. Jumped out the window. Are you jump I jumped out to win the first but we both jumped out. Though I can admit that I jumped out the window, because I said, like I do each other the window you had that like you had the sheets, so I had to come either anyway. He look, yeah, come on show, he's gonna pull the dog woman. I'm telling you all this ain't no brasist. Well, I don't don't want because they went Trump. Yeah,

you can get a different enough nothing bag. I don't want to hear that tells you a little strap with go. Yeah, tell you that right now, dude, that's said Joe. When I flew in your hats what you know when I flew in you you want to shake the little Havana field caring Trump is a racist. Trump is a racist, right, but he's a money it's my nigga. Don't even talk

about Nick. Don't that you don't want to sais, don't even love to get the funk out of I got so what you're saying, niggas, don't look on the one girl's saying nigg is gonna publick and the sore na. We don't know ourselves. Man, you know what held on? Hold on? It wasn't It wasn't truthful. Yes, I wanted to you know what. I came out of one grave. I wanna tell the truth man. The Trump is a boy. I'm gonna I'm a back supporter. You know, W no

what he don't know? The shout for me. I love you card all that I see way, I see over every day. I see it with everything. I stew with everything. And guess what I understand this better being understood. I'm not gonna understand with Shoot, would you know what? You know what? You're right? That's what I understand. I'm gonna fight with you on that. Guess what I'm not with the I'm not with the black and white man. It's greaty me know that you know that it's about being

what done, It's about being guard never once? W do you know that? Oh? I like this doing one way? I like that's the way. Hold hold away with it. Time about see now, when you get into that right, the right, When you get into that right, believe that you ain't gonna give me an acrobat. You already made knowledge. More you gotta give me a You may sound travel a little ready. We know don't play those games. Listen, man, I understand. It's being understand. It's better than being understood.

So when you're telling me it's about the original man and God and the Devil and all that. You know what the original man is God and the devil. Because we're not gonna do that. We're not gonna do that. You get the floor. You get the floor right now, but you get okay, wait, you're getting the floor right now. We are getvile, and we got nigga conscious part out of You know why, you know, next time, next time, address me on the side. You know why. I want

to know what you said. No way, don't talk, don't tell I talk about whole time about talk about. I don't time. I could live with what I said. I understand that. No no, wait wait, I don't live what I said. He's let the bad I'm gonna sit you know you know I can't understand that. Wait wait wait no no, no, like that ship, you can't him so much. He loves that place. It's gonna be quiet. Do you know what? You know what? I like that? See you

know what? I like that. But you know what, because I said, he's let in the bad sunderlay you know what, It's not about him letting the backs of way. It don't matter what the president is in there ain't none of these motherfucker's for you. How about wait to stop stop stop, because I'll let you shoot your ship. I tell you you had to score ball. You to score ball, Duby like right, listen, man, I'm not here for you to like me or you like me. Don't only way.

It's about everything home, It's about everything when you got out of yourself. We don't got to do all that. We don't got to do all that. You're not pulling the curtains back because guess what at the end of the day did you vote? So wait a minute, you didn't vote? Who you encourage the vote? And wait? Wait wait? Who did you encourage the vote and work certain policies that's in the favor of our community? Do you see how? Listen? Listen, listen? Wait wait wait, check us out, check us out, check

us out? Wait? Whatever is wait? Wait? Wait? Wait right wait. I don't want to get into a conversation about jay Z because right now me and you're in the conversation and I kind of you kind of got the flot this keep you going. You kind of got the floor right now. I don't want to talk about jay Z. I don't want to talk about Sean. I want to talk about that. What I want to talk about is the fact that did you encourage anybody to go with certain policies and what policies and what policies did y'all

go at build policies? Nah? What? Nah? Wait? Wait, what are you doing? Listen? Listen? Listen, dude, do we dub I expect the passion. I expect the passion. I don't know who you always with. All I know is that you're right here right now. I don't even know if you're Jay C. Ferry. I don't care. No, listen, don't real, dude, I give a fund because I need. Don't saying I'm got safety the fire. I'm gonna fun. I'm expecting duby, but I'm fitting myself. I'm my own self. I am

asked the Lord of saving break that damn. So I don't list listen, I'm talking to you. You got the floor for a couple of minutes. That's a lot of work going against my thirty is building my brand. So when you get the floor for this long, I don't want to hear about jay Z being your cousin and all that. I don't care about that. What are you doing to perpetuate the campaign for our youth? Because guess what, holloway, I'll let you speak. You know what, our youth out

there killing someone and my nephew is wonderful. Funk all listen who were voting for ship. Why don't he ain't going in these hugs and talking to these babies. Why did he ain't doing that? This is a real fly. Why do you think going in the others super to these babies? They're killing your show? They bury weapons, they get in the bag they burying and see us and they body in each other. It's so about gay Megan, fuck me, folks, jay Z fucking funk anything else. We

already know what the game is. That's so about those that don't know. Come on, don't you're right man? You might do that. That's why you you think Trump shipped be in office. I mean, look, let's just say this. By the time this comes out, already after that happen, Trumper is damn in the water. That's why he said, are you paying attention? Because you know I said black people don't love black people? You see like this all ain't talking about this ship, but I will because I'm

not afraid. I'm not pussy. It was like, yo, funk Trump, Uh he's a racist. The reason why I said, Nigga, black people don't love black people because nik, it's so much trumpers and racist. See you know on these famers, Nigga, I'm been born in seventies. Nigga, I've been rocking out here. I've been rocking out here, no matter what the president was in the seat. You're sa don't go from Nigga. We black, We gotta rock out here no matter who's

let's see. Talk to me. I'm talking back. Don't hit me with all that bullshit due to the funk out of hand. Nigger, we're beating. We hold a bomb shothing gularge. We've been out of loving each other. Guy, How is it? What's your physical the week? All right, I'm coaching. I'm coaching born, I'm coaching ball. It's not it is safe and king. Guess what I'm almost a half essentially, and guess what I see the same ship. I don't know

what funk about niggas a peace add on. This is what I'm saying because somebody having knowledge itself, you're supposed to see how what I have from when you speaking? Was it from a file? Second? Listen? Listen, listen, Wait, where no hunt. Wait, let me let me allow you to speak. Maybe you did get for me speaking because you say at the back no no, no, no, no no. Listen, Maybe you didn't get from me speaking from an A five perspective. Maybe you get I'm not gonna try to

grab that from you. Guess what. I didn't get that then, because guess what they hurt in a mind shot. And when the father came, you know, he came to speak to you, and it was eighty fives. Do you make noise of that? You got? Okay, that's what. That's what. That's what you can say here. Only want until you do something about it, Until you directed into address that, it means nothing because all we're doing is tap. And

you got the flow for a little minute. See so now now I don't see where you're going with it, since shay z is you're don't go whatever he is, right, I'm gonna see where you're going with it because that means you have more at your disposal. Make it were of couls young, of course, listen and guess what. I guess what, guess and guess what. I guess what, and guess what and guess what. Guess what I'm walking with you.

Guess what, run home posts just don't be mad. So I don't agree right away, because that's what we're supposed to do. I would walk with you. I would walk. Listen, you're holding me accountable, you think, come on, man, I'm going outside with them. We could go through a whole whatever we gotta go through. I'm well equipped and I'm not. I'm good with it. But at the same time, at the same time, right you're taking a lot of space on the floor, and I gave you that because guess what,

I'm acknowledge my and I notedge how sound traveling. I notice how sound tapp do. Guess what, I'm never going to close my ears to the fact that I know how sound traveling. And if I did that, then I'd be definite. See, I didn't do that because of valid because I can't. You called me out. I can't don't where what you call me out? Did I was? Did? I was to not and did not acknowledge how to travel? I can't do that. You did that? All right? Say

now you know what. I gotta see you and I got to see what you're doing with man, Yeah, I think what you trying to say? No, no, I know that. No, I know what you're trying, he said. He ain't trying to say. He said it because it's kind of weird sometimes when we see people like little Way like Little Way back Main was here earlier and let's let's keep it exclaiming this is gonna come out after the election.

Election is already done, done, what happened already, whatever one Biden, Trump, whoever want Biden the Trump just coming out after in two weeks, in a couple of weeks, so this election has already been decided. But it was kind of like weird to see like wrappers side and Trump because and this is the reason why it's not it's not money the money purpose. It's because of the racist ship fun tru bro. Yeah, absolutely, he's come on like Trump damn.

But that episode Gangster, see you see the way this is my birth back and break everywhere else to go back around. I'm sorry you were cooking about me. You went to round for seven times. Here hold you cut it, we cut it. Go stop, Yo, that's going man. I'm totally sorry. Man, I got come on the show, come on for the cars and yo, don't get me. I gotta try to you gotta say how to trap to I got try to say, what's up your peace? Can't

he can't see you? You my mama bird with them on the bus, little man, I'm not hit doing God's work. Man's up. I'm getting Gods worker. What's up right here? Love? You can't know why? Thank the general ya following, tell yo what up? Love it? I got the mine of a six psychiatric proto James Purvisha. I'm international. My name ringed gals, your queen fris. I think it's gonna reseat you, ask you, thank you, my brother, I'm gonna see you

some kamus. All right one love my brother, sh y'all let me tell yourself only see you can tell a shot up. I love, I love. We love the kids. Fun out y'all on the song Yes, don't pick up the food good by that said call away, split tracks and say y'all y'r father, y'all ya, that's going give him a funny shack, you know, thirty eight years old. That's my name, the Manicure Republic. Fucking ba. Yeah, that's that's a ship. Look at tracks on what these people

don't know? We walked were bast Look at that people. He would see what you started, bashi when you go call right, let's please shot to do shot No, I don't know, or you're just going to Spanish ship. I mean he speaks now, I gotta I gotta help you. I'll speak up. You do say right. That's the one that's got a little I'm in bro, I'm saying no. I want to ask you. I want to ask a real fok Wi take you to call way. Just go to can way to you. You got hold on. You

gotta shout. Let's figure shout on the shout on, shout, have a shot give give really just so he's really take No, I want the yeah idea? Why are you did? That's that's usually Yollollo love to be honest as a little nigger. How much sused to you eat? Or sender? But I'm eat a lot of pussy? Or you asked? He asked? This is a sinking. I gotta ask me. I'm gott se bro. He got me fucked up seven. I don't know if there's drinks with the fun are you and you're from Dominican republics? So you stand up

the Santiago he said, that's ship rong. No, not at all. The last name is something I want to ask this for now the camera I needing come. I need you on my should money, I need you on the show man see almost diamonds go my last singers Fast week in Paris like you should. Yeah, I'm gonna drink chance. Man. I really appreciate and you're very devin. Then is that a good work together? Come together? You gotta kind of you gotta come in and tells you a little bit

like folling my stun. Listen you father, I don't even know what it on the town father, all right, end, let me just tell you something. This is what I noticed about the brim hats. She ain't got the red. It ain't right. So what is the right there? Now? That's that's a Keith and James. Um. You know this this ship, you know, just just cost a little a little money. You know what, man, it's a little pocket change. God damn you know I think, man, Man, we come

from the trenches. Man, we Sibano. We really made it, made this ship happen. You know me even though we you know, like I was saying earlier, Nigga's might have just always had that confidence in that that ambition and that drive. But like to actually do it and ship like that and be sitting here like with jan niggas and you know niggas that you know, laid the semen down for niggas to walk on comply. You know what

I'm saying. I think it's know what y'all did for this culture, becling so to be amongst you niggers and being part of this ship, like you know, she's taking me there, man. So I got the cell them on. Always always tell them where man athlete. This was like, yeah, if you got there he came, I feel bad? What did you get me in a sing? Man? Yo? Yo? When he came on, Nory looked at me, shot, hold damn, what I'm saying that you're a motherfucking legends? No present.

I appreciate Sean Man's forty three, you thirty eight. I'm yourself about that's five days and I'm forty nine, so five years me that was crown. Alright, great story, buddy. Let me tell y'all something real quick that this is my belief about how important I think Grisela really is because for a long time, this industry that took over hip hop was telling us you had to be young, you had to wrap a certain way. He was certain kind of music and grisella just to spelled all that bullshit.

Then we obstacles and two in front of us as well. Absolutely, I don't see y'all. Did you know coming from Buffalo, Like you know, that's a small demographic and you know you gotta think about it, like A don't really nobody really promped from thearro really had a really shot on a major label type type of deal, says like Rick James, and I was like Buffalo, I remember that. Yeah, I like how you slid. He's engineer cocaine hands to the second.

We don't cocaine stars. We love compaine. Crazy little man. I feel like you still, okay, I feel like you get what you want to sing. Shout for the ego only bone. I know I need that pshooming. Okay, Hi, my name is Peel like chicken, Peel friendly genathen nanty thing. It's dangerous, he's sinking. I was still dude tracks yea, because what's what's your favorite what's your paving part of the game, making the record or performing the record? Performing

the record? I wouldn't talk the total opposite. You got the reaction from the record you know, hold on because you know I understand that too, because it's like buying the gun. But then you gotta shoot, you gotta it worse.

So I understand never was a shooting, you know, man, it's a different it's a different film when you're just walking on on that stage and from thousands of motherfucker's and they're just singing that ship, were ship a little you gotta you know, especially the ship like we come with the ship. Like you're hearing motherfucker's singing that ship. That's clearly they get all different types of walks of life like the Griselle, the shows, you got your you know,

your skateboardings, your backpackage very you know me. Yeah, you see what I'm saying. So it's just a different it's just different. Fail they got all the merged on the ship. They singing the ship word for word. Like I like that part. I've grown to love that part of it more than dude. When you write your around, when you write your ship to writing in your phone or do you write on paper, I don't even be writing a lot of that ship. You just come up. That's a

very flessible, you know. I got to write it down. Done versus when I just floated through the whole verse and with all the top. But I usually just I just think of my ship on the spot when I had to be the thinking that ship just rapp util I like until I funk up. Then I just like punching for that. I like to use the the technology. Now you know what I mean? Yeah, I was out there. It wasn't that like you think. I think. I think all tell about disrespect. You asked him stop gis what

I asked. Just ask how old I'm fucking? I funked up? Pussy standing around chilling? Do you eat pussy standing up? Make him learning? You did everyone? That's kind of a kind of like if you eat fussy standing up, that's gonna all you, hoboestly turning to the Howard Stern of him taking killed sinking stat up. Every night we eat Invernet, I don't got the push. I eat as I'm sharing as this, I'm talking to my brother. Yes, so easy, you're this is the next gift for you, brother. I

told you a long time ago. We know, are you like? He asked, Yeah, I should, Yeah, get shot. I'll take this a long with it came after sharing did your hand. Did your hand came to gone? You didn't hear that? She might advise you to go to hear that. It's man, it's this back came out and just fucky footing there you came. That's where him and cool put you put yourself show some more aceh baby, don you can have your ace. You know jay Z watch the show. We

gotta make sure everybody is drunk. Funny. You know what I'm saying. What I'm saying, we go, aw, come on, Trash right down, I'm going him. No, say pay brother, this is your day. That's your car. Wait day, baby, We love y'all. Baby take the north car win. Motherfucker Trash said one you gotta go. I'm in. Yeah, man, you're not a man. How many way you like people? Nay, you look like like two Dominican to nanty boy, he doesn't. He gotta Dominican swag. Nancy talk to me. I'm so

I like you, man, don't don't suck it. That's gonna talk. And Jay's brother was in Ja's brother name U thank you and just for me's dangerous shut up? Luis no ill, But how many pads are you're sucking right now? Right now? How many. I don't know. He's just sorry. You know, he's for a lot of busy before you. That's just what's so sorry to Maybe she did said, y'all, I'm gonna say the other side side you stop stop it was so say it's all right, he's not married. Why

you who are you married to her? There? You're too old for her? Was exax. Don't tell my someone to do he he know to do. It's not doing it. It's I love bustling. Y'all know he is crying. He wanted to shi a learus squeeze and harry king to god. I called Conway and I said, I would like you to be my hand off. Did that nothing? I'll say, y'all save yo. I was a just and guess what I'll play my part? No, he really listen Conway, this case,

you're gonna know, really make one of one. And there hearing that because like, I don't want to say that. Sometimes you get to a certain position where you know you're good and then you'd like but this is this is the original line. I want to give it to all the theoris Elda, but I want to give it to you technically. You know when I don't did you be hit his line? And I thought of saying that because I hate you want to glam me, hit me back. You're gonna go because people hitting me names like yo,

this we here with this ning is sad? And I was like who one? He was like, yo, you here? Was this make you sad? Was the line was violated? Got trying on only like oh and then that's that's what they mean to you. And I said where you're at? I said, I said, yo, my brother small because then my brother hit me and said, yo, I'm gonna beat you on the show with comfort me. So I look, I thought I was walking into it. Damn no, no, I'm keep it real. I'm I'm keep it green. Man.

I love you man, he look, you know what, you know what? We were bumped hand sometimes because you know what, we're the same thing, man, and I can never deny that. And I always give you. I always give your your flowers like you can smile. I'll be like, yo, you know what if then they ain't give me nothing, then he just showed me my ship work. That's great within itself. But but you just say you want him to be ain't off a little more fun and I just because

you know, I just felt like him. Better say it, say it all the way like you know, um, embody is the world embody and now I've better if what body like? Like like I said, because I said, you know, for us to come it, yo, I would love because you know what, let me tell you something. Yeah, I know it's humbling myself too. No, no, no, you're smart. Listen, you're smart. It's small say let me call it smart whatever because you know where you like to throw it off smart people do? I got he said that to

call that one. I can't realize. If I started going too far, then where will we be good? But listen and I will. You know what's crazy? The crazy ship is then at the end of the day, my night, Like, yo, bro, this is great and like for you could cool him as an end on your project. I want the last time I've been in you know, the last time I was in Miami, he was doing the UM. I asked him my action, you ain't been never talk like that. They shot me down. What do you talk to him? Slow? Bro?

You know I talked, so you know I talked, so you know I talked slow because I love fast. No, you talk fast? For me, I do love to take my time. You join each other. I like for you, I take my time. I take my time. Baby, listen, say what's out? Take my sown? Baby, yeah fast, thank you for your approved. You got a girl called me. I always gonna go there. So look, so look, so look, so look. So now I was like, right now, the last time I was out him in Miami, I can't

we see him an album called the Lessons Album. So that's someone came here and now here again, that's again. But now this is the time. Deserve your flowers, deserve right everything, and both of your guys, because you know I'm not. I mean, you called me a scientist the other day, but I really thought one out. Yeah, I thought this one out because I was like, y'all, um, like Conway, Um, it's such a gift. It's such a blessing. I know, I feel like you're kind of humble, like

don't really accepted like that. But all of you, guys, it's a breath of fresh and I'm chilling you that. I don't tell you I'm shotting. I can't tell you trash point of view. I can't tell you jaz pointed view. I can't take you. But I can tell you that the fact that all of us funk with y'all is it is it give and just now now, I just hit me out of the blue, he said, I'm doing an interview with your ad and Conway he said, Hey, I don't even know if he said the don't like

my mom anyway, I just hit I'm glad now hit you. No, I hit him. No, he hit me first and then heats you back, and then I hit him. But the fact is he picked it up. And which lets me know, is that again, if our legacy dies with us, we never live on. So the fact that I can't look tracks actually you they picked up they'll ya, That's what it is. Result of picked up the torch that was looming. It was not very trush, was not lit, it was

not very bright. I wasn't and made it right. That was that wasn't I appreciate now you're saying that ship we was trashed. You know, I appreciate you Nicks saying that because that was really important to us because running up in Buffalo on the East Side, all we had was y'all, Like all we had was that, you know what I'm saying, Like it was so real, like niggas won't even really making it too the league or none of that. Like you know what, man, it's not you either,

like soul soul work, you know what I'm saying. He was just out there like funked up, like you know what I'm saying. So it's like that's all we had. Was like it's like, y'all all the music to the War Report, no albums like that. That just was like, man, we had to that was the ship that got us to all the bullshit we was doing in going through the other man, I'm gonna drink to that too, you know what I'm saying. I mean, it's not taking shots like how do you know about to show the drink

chats and y'all I don't even drink like that. I said, what I was doing, that's what started. Yeah, I said, crap, that's what yo. I gotta get this up and I'm gonna walk out off. I'm vot voting. Don't do that. I'm smoking sick, he said. Don't know. He's right though, I don't remember we using a studio called power Play they called Inger in Now I'm wondering what I want you to relax. I want you to relax. You know it's crazy. Anybody candy. He's like yoyr man and one

dude Candy and he's the engineer Robin Sterry. And he said, Yo, this nigga rhymes and stay. And I said what you mean? He was like, yo, his his once just in scai yo. And right then I knew he had it. I witnessed that conversation. I never knew you actually heard that conversation. It was a dude with a pony tail the first time you run him. I wish to the time missed that conversation. First time you ever heard it was it was the first time. Was the track all right? So

for Lack, let's be clear. As met Poem, him and Poem had their own sensus. Poem said, Yo, I'm gonna meet my man. He comes home and twos you're talking about me, not knowing I met him, not knowing what I even met Paul. I meant him before I even meant poem. Man. They baby this man I met him with. I met him before I even at Poe Towners from my projects. But that's why I said earlier. I just stay with me. I said, Yo, Remember how I remember the first time I met you, his sister India piece

of India ended. That's c. J. Marsh that's next tried is so righteous that my sister wanted to try talk to me and I was out of control. Fact, it's a fact. So I expect that this is beautiful. This is a beautiful knowledge. That's a great things. Look and listen. That's pick up. We grew up. I can't manage you now. I was looking to be management, you know I no, no, no, you know what I was looking at. I was that's

my that's my that's my Maia can be sorry. You know that man about man, yell man lay you to let me do n say that. It took me a pictures. Yeah, I getta stick down your instantly esta esculate. We're taking a picture of all that's I got more more questial car Yeah, and people. People got on my song. You got a song, your episode. I had a girl. I chose your quick time too, quick time, quick times give it to woo to like get on messages from what

what what? I'm not telling the quick times? I'm right, yeah, but to wre you from American voting? Where you from in what part of you from? I'm from listening listening to watching too quick. I yes, I who I think watch game is crazy trying to take his watch back. Your watch game is you? Wasn't ce seven four seven calls the fire fire right now years number one day in the world. I don't little bay yo man, I was you the moment that was he has bram was

Hiram was like that. Everybody have to listen this over fire like pussy change because she's like happy unless a white show. No oy. You know she's the house somerself. Oh yeah, I have to swe remember one. Oh that's too kiss. Yeah yeah, everybody have to hold you too, gug gugi. Then we bring up in New York. We gotta go to the lot and people. We are back in the days. I let your Yeah, honestly, it was niggas.

You know what I mean. Already I was situated on the east, but you know, you funk with niggas on the west side. That's what the Latinos west side, Nigga west side, Buffalo Latino niggas is always busting on them rolls and on them getting that ship, doing that ship. So niggas, you know what I mean. We had the important export man had to do other ways. Next, Yeah, you know what, I'm crazy when we was like, yo, no shrink like guys some crash. Look look, were just

was throwing light worm. These niggas are all numberous. No, we can't be met. The bag is something like hazy shee that nik is just mad at me because not shutting. I took the check. If the girls went at me, I'm saying about I'm sorry. That's what's one to me here. Listen, Nis wouldn't been able to get money and take a smoker bud. Now I'm going one hit. Won't take one head come back to the thing. Take me, nigger, chill, take one, y'all take one. It's the point the trash

let's do it, doesn't even do what hit it. That's no can go yea hook like who you want to meet? I like, I like who you please? I want to meet Jaz his nephew right there, trash. Yo, listen, man, I just strikes man. You're gonna go straight to jay Z. I got a got a segment. I got a segment we gotta say. We called quick time with slone. We're gonna start with you on your car. Don't be time. It's very click, just pick one. Are you ready, Jay z ans Man, you're gonna throw me on the spotlight.

You can both, I'm out to say both, Bory Porter, if god damn, I don't better, Yeah, he said, Jay z Man, Okay, because they both impacted me. Just gonna your equal value? Are you ready? Yeah? Emo, P mopigs come on alaining mind going m O P. You gotta go for me. It's yeah, man man, but he's not head right now. But in the drink, Wayne, it's it's saying that fast little Kim a fox. That was crazy. That was crazy. I felt your first year come in, I felt for I found that ship. I found that ship,

you know in my end up fund both Kim. Okay, Oh, don't do that to me. I'm out here, no rang now, please please please broadcast. That's great, h Trump a fither neither expect that as well. Okay, here's a good one. Okay, come with there, alright, shuffy tone old school or new school, old school Miami or l A very careful. You're right, I'm out of here. I'm out of here. I can't loyalty or respect, oh loyal don't come up with him?

And ready do not like that boy, I came out of I'm actually the same one, Jay z or not. Oh you guys boryport w A R R E p O r T. All right, I guess words to me cute I will pee. Oh day. The Jets versus the bills in New York Buffalo, No Atlanta, ain't bill bill state your wait wait wait wait wait wait wait your way, your way. All those guys waiting hold us down, and they gave you the bills. So let's be clear. The Jets to the bills can kill get everybody's shot. Everybody

get a shot. Ain't bill Buffalo Bills. Who's the jet that's also the open in Jersey sold Buffalo ship? You don't care in Fox, I'm not giving you. Nicki Mino, I gotta gold car. That's a real bit. She look she gonna she gonna book my flight with her EBC, your flight with the You gotta look at that. That's my wife. Wait on, Jake, Wayne, Jake, I got Wayne, because when you know where your homi yet who your manage man? He left a ready, he left I a

little little way. It courts you nothing to pay attention, but of course everything is you though you men Wayne, Well, I don't know that nigger. If I pay attention, that's something that had out in the Winning Baby in English. He spoke with my Way very hotly, and he said he said the plan was for Drake to be beating Way.

I'm not. Yes, she know you're not. Said, yes, we eat the right food though, yes, oh okay, though, who's just do you know who's gonna make that they're doing the RST ships look like that dude, y'all's catching cat empty. He got your energy, man, he's kissing everything else. You should win. Drake who passed that? Do next? Don't get right?

I want the food. Yes, he wants more because that's the world, Nicky, I did that ready story short, alright, rock him, okay, he said, card Rock cam Kane both yeah, you can't. You can't. Please stop buy it. We already know you're going, buddy, just come Holy Jesus Christmas, alright, Kanye for oh, I thought you were gonna call Tyson or Ali Tyson, Mollioman, Molly Operman, Molly, I love you

love you to Bro. That's kind of Jesus class science, you know, while Molly was the template Overman, absolutely, I believe you got them. You look at me. I want here. I love that. Guess what you're going with you some night ship ain't get something like picture you're listen, let me get it. Let me right right. Oh ye'ren't even you can hit the funk with you get that hit it, Joe. I noticed, just y'all, no go please, but never because I ain't gonna lie. Never look, I never flew to mind.

Every time I flew to Miami. Knows the I the irony of it, every time I flew to Miami fu listening. But every time, like your story straight because membersh bleep didn't come on here. Let's say that. I mean you was beeping. Brain hit you in the room, and I know you did not like that, and my drona about it like that. What the fun was that about? Actually? So you know what, I'm gonna take my jacket off and I'm not gonna take my name. That means this

is this is in there before. No, no, no, that's all that's somebody, because you know what, Honestly, I spent so much more father, I did my brother come on by way your time to pick you up my way. I'll be spect that. But that was the story that bleak said, I didn't bleeve, but Bleak happened to be at the Fountain Blue Bleak happened to be at the flower before let this before left what's living? And you had a lot of You had a lot of good. You have a lot of dudes you shoot that day,

I was offending. I want to smoke what we are think about what I want to answer this lebody podcast. Look when you say old parties involved, holdt like fun with me do? I don't even stand with it. But this she was deep. You know why the game will the game? We turned away from your family. But I know that was a excuse me when Mike was incredit the game will turning with Mike Gerano could never be

offended for going between me and my flow. What when Blick said was praying, do y'all in the room because he didn't, he didn't anything. You know what I mean? And me personally, I'll be honest. I'll be honest with you. I'll be honest with the whole shot. My sirette, Listen, you're not a person like you've never said what we said. We spoke to each other about a month ago and on the halt on the behalf of our in between do we? He said, The thing about us is we're

not afraid of each other. I love it. I lovely you remember that lovely staking you ship ended it okay, because you know what, everybody's sitting here and looking at the ship and they're going trash because I get it. I'm in the streets, like you know. You gotta answer this and I don't know you read it because I read that. Listen you you honestly you you wouldn't even go into none of this ship. I turned a bit because you know what, I like, shoot But they don't know.

As I told you, I said, you shoot at me and I'm not. I say when I pulled up, I say, up, don't shoot at me? Or do you think I'm shooting? They not listen to what I'm saying. We gotta get the people, do. I just want you to can reiterate that because that's a story that was promoting checks any other story. I'm nothing. You know, that's salt salt thought,

so okay, salt and bro like. At the end of the day, man, the only differences we went at You talk about polishing, You're talking about everything in the business. It was all really about miscommunication, and that's a fact. And you know I came here willing to answer any question. But you know I love you. See him put your gun out, you know, but you know your old brother. I expected they're gonna come out, and don't be mad

at it. That's how I'm gotta move. I wouldn't be who I am if I and I took and you know it, don't even agreed. You know why I came out of one pussy and I'm gonna lay in one grave. But you gotta go out. This is the same ground for you. You too have to know that when you want to promote something, you want to talk about, something ipposed to come a head because you know, while I'm of you, you everybody don't got that tiple love. But it's good to know. Did I not to tape along?

I got you and you because because look when you had him come on, because I know he said they're violated. I'm tragedy written like the warm I ain't gonna lie. I was like, what ship is normal? I wonder y'all together? Little little listen, you don't pushing the way he kept his work, he kept his world. I'm just telling you up. Don't be mad at me because I think doc because who gave me that, who gave me foul? You was

bucking foul yo. Always. I'm gonna be honest, Bro, I couldn't be more proud of than any other new And I don't want call you a new because you ain't new, but I hit me product of them, like I felt like you just took that shot without anybody. Come on, let's do a shot the shots. Let me just tell you something, Bro, I wouldn't have listened to all your albums you're listening to Way, I don't know what it is about. He loves you, Broy because he's yours too,

your your he's a little funny track trash. He's a legal too. Hey. I know I'm not crazy, but I like a little bit shot. He's do have enough? My shot is here? Shot? Your shot is there? You got? You got? You got your show? Because I'm not gonna saying again and I'm sorry, I'm like I might sound like I'm reenterating everything just pain, but can't Way, you won't get them. We got actually question then we get you the ex down here. You don't keep you keep

you lit training. Let me tell you something as sucking in person. I don't you got your I didn't even get all right, let's go for your life. Someone hands yea my sister like that back to me? Nomabe? Can we remember using lever? Do the speech gone way? Start with you? Because really can't tell you all how proud I am a y'all keeping a legacy going on all lazy because y'all did your own ship. But how y'all keeping it going, how y'all holding it down, and how

y'all keeping it music traditional? M M. I don't even know how to thank y'all like for reality because I was just close joining Little Box in camp. Yeah you s stringer. I live in my don't but yeah, you know what I'm trying to say. I didn't even know we had yobs that so when so when I realized that I got get yeah again, I'm in. I'm in.

Don't shot we get Let me just say I want to thank y'all for keeping y'all integrity, for staying focused, making sure real hip hop still exists in the way that we wanted to expet And I can't think anybody else other than you, brother. I wanted you particularly. I don't even know if that's a woman. I wanted you particularly because you're the first person I met at a horn and I wanted to show you that love to your face. What y'all doing. I'm gonna pass you. What

y'all doing. Let's out we've identified, wouldn't that was seemed it done? This earl where people it's more close to this. That's cocade. Yes, you know, let me speak, Thank you, go ahead, go ahead. Don't you want to talk? Come on talk? I mean I had a fall man, come on, a little bumpa gud man. My little pumma is a big buma. I mean I had to sep on me. Ut. Do you know what for me? He gets acoltes all different type of angles because you know what he earned

the mathemae. I I'm the forgot woman. We didn't forgive you overhead and we're gonna got to fly out. He ain't shot pushing. Yeah, that's let's make me big right now. But a lot of people remember me. You sit there on the three spurs. Nobody remembers you're looking at me. Man, I don't care you, I don't care what you gotta get that duty whist on the shoulders. Duty you don't remember me. I mean a lot to me. Look at me. I'm the hud question walking hood. Remember forgive me my question.

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