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Episode 236 w/ Hitmaka

Nov 13, 20202 hr 3 min
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N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. In this episode, the guys chop it up with the one and only Hitmaka. First introduced to his fans as Yung Berg, he created huge records like “Sexy Lady” and the platinum selling single “Sexy Can I” with Ray J. Throughout the years, Berg reinvented himself as “Hitmaka”, producing some of the biggest records for 2Chainz, Fat Joe, Gucci Mane, Ty Dolla $ign and more!

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Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of the Black Effect and I heart radio and it's Drink Chas motherfucking podcast. He's a legendary queen's rapper, He's screen is your boy in O R. He's a Miami hippop pioneer. Up is d j e FN. Together they drinking up with some of the biggest players in the most professional unprofessional podcast. And your number one sorts for drunk drink mother is New year' z. That's time for Drink Champs. Trink Up Mother.

Would it could be hoping he wouldn't soon be. This is your boy in Oh what up is dj e F And this is Drink Chas motherfucker. Yeah, y'all makes something right now when you look up the word reinvention, when you look up the word you know, staying relevant, staying in these people games, staying working with the top ten people. This man has had like two or three careers, maybe four. I feel like he maybe even have a

porn star career. I'm not sure, but the man has been consect If you listen to the radio right now, you don't hear that hashtag that what's it called? If you don't hear that I don't think you're right gonna get top to top ten. You need that right now. I've seen have a run. I've seen Timberland have a run. I've seen a lot of people have from Swiss Beach. This man run right here is unmarketable. Bro. It's so beautiful and he's a great person. You know, he's a

little bit of controversy, but he's a great person. And his work speak for itself. He's done reality shows to whatever whatever, to music for itself, and then his big movies that being that big producer. I heard in fact Joe say this puff Daddy does DJ Kale and then this young bird. Now. Now, a lot of people don't know because you fly flashy, you know what I'm saying. You know, you know that type of dude. But you from the rough streets of Chicago. I heard you even

burnt down the house at some point. Yea, bro, I know what I'm talking about. There was an out building. Ain't gonna so yeah, I'm from the South side of Chicago. Sounds like I lived in my whole life. My dad still litter man, ship Man, Chicago, different man. A lot of people don't know. They probably think like when I first came out as as young Berg the rapper, like, Oh,

he's a cute kid, let's do this. But I was really hanging around like killers and people, you know what I'm saying, Like before, I like as a child like thirteen four a team moving around with the biggest dudes in the city, shout out to all them and most of them are dead and some are grown. So you know, yeah, because that's that's what's what's crazy about it. It It is like you, for lack of a better term, um, who's

using this world yesterday? You make sexy music. You make music that make bitches, excuse me, make females wanna you know, dance and and party. But how how could you do that? Like I was saying that to Nikki Jam the other day, Like Nikki Jam has a real rough life, and I told him, I said, you should be making music like DMX.

Why are you making music that's that's sexy and like she's like that, and so I kind of want to ask you the same thing, like you could have made music that reflect the South side of Chicago and you know like that, Oh no, no no, no, I'll see that that way. When I was when I got my deal with d m X when I was you right, I had like three different, four different lives in this game.

I started off in my name was Iceberg and I was the first artist sign a Bloodline Records to d m X, and yeah, like I used to fucking I killed so many people in my wraps, like I was like, I was like, I'm discussing, like I had more so transition into making the more sexy and koind of music.

But when I was a rapper, rapper, like, man, I promise you, like I was just straight street, all guns and everything in Kanye West books, No I d they did my demo and yeah, like I never forget this, Like, man, I went to um how I met d m X, these guys that no he was Okay, I was with these guys called l E. P Yes and they from Chicago and it was like the biggest street niggas in Chicago at the time, so I had a big bid

and war going on. They took me to l A some guy and the crew knew a guy that was DMX and stylist at the time, and right now it was that what he's been so yeah, what these bitches weren't from a nigger video shoot? I came there and I remember this ship I guessterday. I go to the Paramount locked this on in Hollywood or whatever. It was like two days shoot, I met Dragon, I met um Aliyah was there like that's why I like Elias had

on me. It was a crazy, crazy time and um I went and I met DMX for the first time and they get like, yo, dm this is the young guy we're telling you. And he was like, I'm gonna go do this and then he opened hand he had a bunch of button and saying a bunch of week, like I'll get back to you. And I do this like twelve and I'm like teaching, are you feel right way? So it was like this was I don't know whatever.

What the bites from video was shouting when it came out was so we there and he goes to smoke his week and then um they're like, okay, you can come in the trailer now. So X is in the trailer and he's doing like excess on top of the world, like at this time I'm talking about he had the bitches in the trailer like I think man getting massage his feet rubbed at the same time smoking a blunt all types of ship. So the Nigga X was like, so go ahead and sure specim ship from me. So

I'm like, yo, um, I say, I don't know. With the smoking y'all be like some fast time. Yeah. And then DMX I spent I did this loan drawn out verse and dm mix is like, shorty, I don't understand one. I was like yo. Then I spent another rap that was more like this is how I used to wrap back in there, like fuck the log just bubble up and cut the wrong when the trade cock back at a bush of John flutting. I was on that that type of time. I spent that rap and he was like, yo,

you're amazing. He like, I funk with you. I'm a vibe with your ship. The next day, I come back to the video because it's a two days shooting, three day shoot type ship. I'm sitting I'll come to the video. D m X is blasting my demo out his trailer now like this ship is going crazy. I'm sitting there and Kevin Liles walked up to me like you ready for your life to be changed. I'm like yeah, and this is big Kevin, not skinny. Yes, it's a big key and then X was like, I come in and

trail again. He's like so, he like, Shorty, I'm gonna sign you. I'm getting my level. I'm gonna sign you. It's not gonna be fast, but i'm gonna sign you. And ship. I left that. I was on cloud nine because X was like my favorite rapper at the time, and then from their ship a beating war and sued because once DMX wanted me, then now hold want to sign me. And then I start meeting all different type people shout to hip hop man, DMS, give you a dog.

I feel like that. My brother like, if he give you a dog, damn, that's like giving you a chance. You know, the dog has cut it on his back. He gave me one of the litter from Boomer and he was like, Shorty, he was locked in after that. He's like, Shorty, you gotta take this dog every fucking way you go. I do not want to see you without this dog. So I'm like, damn, I'm like I don't know, Like I'm now, I got my deal out and flew to He moved me to Edgewater, New Jersey.

I'm up there and we're going in the depth Yam building burning it down, have the dogs with the dog with me everywhere, my dog with Ship in front of Leo's office, and they wouldn't say nothing to me. They would be like, that's Iceberg, that's DMX artists and Ship. It was. It was a lovely time. Man, let's make some noise for DMX. Man so so, but let's let's get back so um alright, bouncing around, let's bee around right.

DMX was the hottest at that time. So everyone deals with these discrepancies of people saying, um uh when you signed to an artist, When you're signed to an artist, was that something you faced immediately or that's something that that I don't know. I was a kid, like my my fondest memories where X is like, that's a ill nigger. I remember X went to foot locker and ain't boby you no damn shoes or whatever of shoes. I was a kid. DMX stole my first piece of pussy that

ever was gonna get so first. Yes, I almost lost my virginity. But DMX though my ple. We're in Toronto, Canada. I'm with him. He's filming a movie with Steven Seagal, Exit Wounds. We're out there We're going crazy, like Ex is on top of the world. So we go to this club because you know, Ex love to play pool, so we like he bought out this whole little club and had bitches like it was like only we were the only niggers there, but it was full of bitches. So X was like, Yo, you know what I'm saying,

do you, shorty? You know I like that little look for you. I'm upstairs. This is my first time like finger fucking a girl, Like I'm finger finger banging a girl inside the club, like smelling me scratch and never get my whole little vibe on. We get back to the hotel. We're staying at the Sutton Place hotel. So X had the big penthouse suite. I don't know. For some reason, because I was an artist. He put me in like the regular room right next to him. So

you know how this ship go. I'm in an entourage. So the artist, you know, X, drive like a madman. So he gets there before us. He go upstairs with his vibe or whatever. I guess his vibe didn't work out. I stayed in the car for the rest for like Ali and all the other people to like take me upstairs. I go upstairs. I'll never forget. I mean, I think it was me and p K remember Pek Man. We go up, I get off the elevator or whatever, and

I got the girl with me. I'm talking about. I'm literally putting the key inside the hotel door and X room open, like I think it's like a dog. For he opened the door as soon as I'm walking in my like a, uh, I think you love your person in my room? Why you we've been thesees at the club. He ain't never been to that bitch goes in d m X room and he took me that I through that bet you that chick somewhere needing to beat right now, she probably needed a hit makings beating like right now,

I got your blessing, but the way to go through? So, so what was the transition? Because obviously as artists, like I think we spoke about this somewhat with d Knights right like when you transition the fact is that most people sit back and they said, well, you were supposed to dominate this world, uh, before you go to this next world. So was this something that you felt like

as an artist you didn't complete? Well, you know, the crazy thing is that I got my deal and like shout out to my partner, Billy J. Hit me with me right now. We were like kids. So I was Shinna's hype man, and you couldn't just say you can just say that like d TPP just her hype man. She got a dumps, she was getting some head right this, yeah, yeah, that was the like, and that's when I was her hype man. And from there, like just trans I got

from there. I met Billy because Billy worked for John Monopoly. And then my manager at the time was my weed man. Like I moved in with my weed man and he became my manager on something I'm not sure. I was stowing out the pound a lot. Then the worst part is that I stole my manager slash we man credit card and flew Billy to Los Angeles and then we all became a team. Of course, the man was mad at me. We all became a team at that point.

And then I had this record, Sexy Lady, that UM I produced and I wrote as well, and um like I was recording myself, like I had to press three and go run to the mic and then recorded. I did this whole song. It's a two track it's never been mixed, it's never been mastered song. When number one, it was the number one song in l A. And that's how I got my first label deal as an artist. And I was actually how it was or something like that. And then from there, Charlie Walked was my CEO. And

love Charlie Walk because like, no disrespected Charlie. Like I know Charlie was doing a bunch of coke Caine back in the day or something, you know, like you love d No. Come on, come on baby, I hope enough you're in the build. Hold this. I don't know what's going on. Just so Yeah, So Charlie walk was my guy, and um, I never forget it, like I did. I did, um Sexy Lady comes out. And then I had this other song called the Business that I wanted to put out and he was like, it's this song with ray J.

You need to try out. You guys need to get this. Yes. So I hated this song because I thought I was gonna be the sexiest Nack in the world. I'm like, yeah, I just drop Sexy Lady. Now I'm coming with Sexy Can. I like, why what the fun is going on? And ray J was like, nah, bro, you gotta do the record. Bro, like like it's a sexy movement we got going on. I'm like, dog hell no. So they because I felt like he had a taketop one while he said that,

and he was like he was looking his lips. I'm just thinking that I can see the I can see the scene of me. So they convinced I didn't want to do the record. I went and I've seen Charlie walk and I'm like, yo, you gotta buy me something, buy me a chain. I'm like, I want to epic record chain to do this record. He called Jason Badly Hills the jeweler and brought me a chain that same day. So now I had to do the record. But let me just be clear. You had to be the only

nigger with the epic rank, epic history. Nobody wants to epic records. No, I was just on some ship, like, brought me a chain, hit maker. Why do you you don't say that I had so many chains at that point, Like it was signed. You sag him on a snoop dog. You signed everywhere. My brother, I ain't gonna lie, but you got contracts like a giraffe. The zo o brother for real, bro, and I ain't gonna lie. I was sitting there because it's mad labels, but I was like,

I was like, Yo, that's a lot of money. That's a lot of money. Hold on them, I keep face tilling me. Must be all right, I'm gonna calling a drink test? Brother? What's calling on? Yo? Saturday? Had that wine ready? Saturday? Saturday? Yeah? You got ghost is and race showing behind lines? All right, look I got you, I got you. I finished. Okay, who can you call? Yeah? Call me? Hold on? Hold on? Who's that bad guys? Who's that? Oh? Ship chip boo chap boo? Okay, makes

you who you? I loove y'all, loove y'all. Got your Saturday Saturday. Let see your Saturday. Alright, cool man, this is my porter weekt Mafia have to call you when the porter we get mafia call you know. So I'm bouncing for keep it. I told my mom, um was Ray J licking his lips when he told you that conversation that boy still happened though? Is about it? So we do it? Um. This song, the Sexy Cannot Song,

Literally in Miami. We walked from I think I was staying at the Della No to wet Willie's and I wrote, this is a big chance we keep it real. First of all, you don't have a drink. Have a drink, that's one. But I feel like Sexy cannot had a lot of cocaine on the video. Saxon no, no, hold on no, that's the best. Let let's just say so, that's the best part of having a budget to a video is you actually have you wanna make some luch of that drug budget? Come on being on death jap

to put it to the side. You know, you got about Hunred and five right, what I had the we Love Me but the video shoot, that's just yeah. So the video of the Sexy kind of it was very It was very ecstasy driven, like me and Raged did a lot of ecstacy back in the day, Like ecstacy used to be my thing. Like I was literally like, would you say extacy ghostwriter? Yeah, it wrote a lot of Gotti like they could be on that lifestyle, brew up and made all these records. We live the next

story to each other. So John the story so so John like he starts making these girl records. He got to Badley, he got the ship. I don't like start like hold up. So he's like, yeoh, man, I'm making these records. I took ecstasy. I can't write a goddamn record. I can't get an emotion though, just what I said. But y'all, Ruler, you think it's made mother whole career over that ship, I got super creative. Shout out to John because they put me on that ship. Like Son video,

We're here in Miami. We're shooting the video. The song isn't even out yet, you know what. We're trying to shoot the video before the song comes out. So shout out to um everybody. Man shouts all the people from Cotch but Downhill, the people Alan Grumblad all them. I still do business with him. Yeah. So we're at the video and we're shooting the first shot of the day near Ray J and a Lamborghini. We're smoking a blunt.

I threw the broach out the car. The police that we're keeping us sable picked up the roach out the Lamborghini smelt it. Locked my ass up a Mimi before the first shot of the day. So I go to jail. I'm in Dave. It was a roach and then we were about I just threw it out because we're about to shoot the first shot. He picked up the room, he picked up their should up. I'm in jail, they're shooting a video. I'm sick these niggas trying to bring me but lonely sandwiches and all the type of ship.

I'm like, Nah, I'm young, berg so not niggas want me to wrap foot in jail for that next thing. I thought, they like, Ward comes the Lord, him out my last main award. You never believe this ship. Shaquille O'Neill billed me out of prison while I was down here, because you know, Shaq a sheriff in Miami. Like that, Shaquille, I don't even got nothing to see right now, he continued. So shot comes and gets me. Not but it's nighttime, like I've been in jail for probably like twelve hours now.

So shot comes how Because ray J and Shaq had a partnership with that record, so they did business on that. If you look at ray j Sexy County song, Shaquille O'Neil's um imprints on it as well. So he came and got me. We get there now, I'm heeding. Now I'm trying to get as drunk as possible as quick as I can. So we drink, drink, drink, drink, drink, drink drink. I think I might have like fell in a pool or some crazy, but we shocked the video and it was success. It's the biggest song of my career,

honestly that I've ever been involved in. Ships sold ten million records. Who would have thought that Me ray J was sale? Tim? How do you Juanna, Marie? No? Yeah, yeah, yeah, a little bit. So me and ray J was really cool. You know, Loving hip Hop came around. You know, listen to be careful because I watched every episode. Listen, all right, every episode Love of hip Hop, Marriage, boot Camp. I'm into all of that. I was a movie on that.

But it kind of was like it was a little foul because you knew ray J was dating Diarra and then the him and then the world was she gave your head in the back seat? Let me this is they were no, So it wasn't in a back seat something like that. Apologize I'm just saying, but I'm just you know, it's what I heard. I can't I can't lie,

so I'll just tell the truth. Basically, ray J. Me and ray J was really cool, and we did a lot of created a lot of history as well with that record, and we got on the show and then fucking um Ray was having his turmoil with his girl at Princess at the time, and then Ray ended up

doubling back and dealing with Tierra Maria or whatever. So the nigga Ray I told Ray, like, Ray was calling my phone Whack one hundred, all these other niggas shout to whack whack, we love you whatever, and like kind of like threatening me, like pressing me a little bit over you know what I'm saying, his chick over Tierra Marie. And I'm like, and she's but she was setting it up the whole time, like going back and I'm like, bro, why are you pressing me? Like she just sucking my dick? Bro,

Like I ain't. I ain't go that crazy. He was like, oh for real. He's like that's perfect because I want to get back with Princess. And at the end of the season, I kind of left with Tiera, so on a reunion, you gotta tell them that she gave you top, so everything a bit makes sense. And I was like, man, hell no, I ain't kissing tail last nigga and the head was five, So I'm like so basically at the reunion, him and Whack one hundred pressured me to say, and

I'm bros over els. You know what I'm saying. So I said it. I feel terrible about it. Tim. Marie is a beautiful person. When you gave her a record though, yeah, that recently, I gave a record while he was on the show. The biggest scene that she had since she was on Rockefeller or whatever. And you know, but she was dealing with her issue. She was a drink champ at that time. Now I feel like she sobered up

and she looking honest. I went to u uh was dea think it was a depth jamn showcase and it was Tierra movie, Rihanna and I think a Marie and and you know who everyone was was was following to and people were just looking over Rihanna, our kids. You not. I know Hana remembers that party too. You remember that ship whatever? You like that. But I ain't like that. I ain't like that. Learning on me coming up? Oh I was, but you coming down, y'all, you don't remember.

I just text you like I just texted him like gui man and dissed me in a song, and I did several singles on Gucci Man Time Out. Gucci Man dished you on the song. He said, some ship like I was going through, like some turmoil as a young bird or whatever, and then he used me like as a punch line. Oh but that's still all up and that's my like like they said, like they said the dude to do forty two for the two dogs. He said before I go broke like jop. Yeah, it was

some ship like that. Yeah, it was like, oh, like a bad experience that I had and he just, you know what I'm saying, played it up on it. But at the end of the day, now I look at it, me and Gucci Man and sold millions of records together. I mean, you don't get you don't actually have to get along with the people you make music with. I don't think you. I don't think that's I said, that's

a necessary what they say. It would be nice if you could, but I don't think that every time, Like people don't like I know, these people don't like me. You know what I'm saying. I'm on at let me tell you some I've interviewed. This is how many episodes of this are we on almost two hundred, right, And let me just tell you something. This is this. You have your fan base. Let me tell you, but your fans I kind of every time I interview somebody, I go to Twitter, I go to Instagram, and I get

a field of your fan base. You have a very unique fan base. But you have a real fan base, meaning most of the time it's people they either really really love you. Man, you don't have the in betweens. When I hit and I was like, yeo, I got hit Maker coming up, got young Bird and I kid you not, it was fifty fifty down the line. I was like, yo, man, he got he made a great career of himself. And then other people was just like man, you know so it's how does that affect you? Like

a rich or? You don't affect me, don't you know? What I mean? Is what I mean is how do you take the good with the bag? When it comes with that? Everybody and shipped it on me. So now it's just like it don't even matter. So you built, you've been you've built thick skin, or you already had stick. It was I had to build it because like man, like I went through a lot of things. A lot of things that I went through with young Burg wasn't

even really my beefs, so my issues. It was like you know, I was just yeah, I'm going watermelon the baby. I'm living off the stereotype. But I only say that Donna laugh. But now I went through a bunch of turmoil, Like I literally grew up in front of the camp you know what I'm saying, Like I literally nickers can see the good, the bad, ugly with me. So it's kind of like and you own it. You own it.

That's what it is. What it is man like, at the end of the day, it's about it's about longevity, it's about having a real career, and it's just about money, bro, because these people they don't. It's fickle man. Like went three four years ago, I thought I had e bowler myself. Nobody wanted to be near me. I'm talking about I

think I couldn't. It was like bad to bring like don't I was nigga not to bring around, like don't bring bro, or like I would be in the club and like wrapp us with like not want me around or something like that, to play me dirty. Now my phone looked like the hot one hunting. No, but explain that though, Explain like, what does that come from? People thinking that he was taking advantage of you or something like that? You get into the scripancy. It was the screpacy.

I guess it just wasn't cool to be around me. I never forget this ship. So I on my transition and from the Young Bird, we want one at I don't know what. Okay, all right, so where's my shot? Special? You know we like to rock overhead. You know what I'm saying. We gotta just pick up just vote I would and I want to be club focus in case because the case far for anybody. Um young Berg from the nineteen two recommended to Delhi Yard. Well, you know, he's just old man. I'm gonna take a shot of solid.

This is to you, though, brother, This is to you, brother. Let just so you know, I'll show it's about celebrating all legends, and you're a motherfucking legend, my brother. Now that's different, shot. Okay, it's different. I'm different. I felt like Benny Hill, just now what are we talking about?

Because so look, this is a crazy thing, okay, because that you're already making it think The first time I said hit maker was probably it's on this song, well, the first one that came out as a uh, DJ infamous you have you know this guy, he's in Atlanta. Do you have a catch for heating um hit heat makers? Nah? But I love heatmakers. Yeah. So I did this record. It's called Double Cup and it was DJ Infamous featuring myself, Jeez, Juicy J, and Ludicrous. So I remember this ship, like yesterday,

were in Atlanta. We're shooting a video and we're on set and like I'm watching these they can shoot the whole video without like without me in it, like Jez didn't want me in his shot or whatever, and all this other ship the story. So listen, I had my own shots, but Jeez didn't want me in his shot. But it was the group shot and it's like I'm actually wrapping the hook on this like it's my song.

Like so and you know, at the time, I'm guessing Jess had that image to be a thing and know what I'm saying, so so, um, I never forget it. So I'm there and at that point I'm mad as hell. I'm like, damn, I didn't. So I didn't. I threw back a half a bottle. Now now I'm drunk. Now I'm like, you know where fun this ship? They like action I ran in, Jez shot you know what I'm saying that start wrapping my ship or whatever. They like, He's like, they don't want to go crip crazy on this.

I think it was mad as helling me or whatever. But like now full circle man, me and Jez is good man, Jeez want to work. You know he just DM me recently or whatever. But I show you how ship comes forward circle. I wasn't allowed in the video next one. Now I'm able to you know what I'm saying at work with these people, so like it's crazy like my brother and how like I mean, I know this is kind of sounds generic, but like, how do you how do you deal with that? Like I know

we said we're rich. We we've dealt we dealt with that part. We know moment because we're all human like at the end of the day, like everyone hears right, Like you know, I learned the industry or I've been in this ship since a kid. Do you know how this ship go? Because we listen when I did reggae though I had the raybies like I have rabies, Black people like we would hip hop and then look at the ship that guys like holy lonely walk. I told you I was sparing us for the beginning and to

get us everything. Everybody, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I had the coolies. I went through that, so hopefully I had to go through that. You know what's now, it's every artist goes through that time you get the cooties, right, every artist, every like I mean, I don't give an who he is. Whether even even though as had the cooties, Jay had the cooties, like like and Career were talking about that

after he did had the cooties. Yes he did, and when he dropped that record where he actually was speaking about like the girl like um the one that yeah, that he had the cooties. Bro I mean, it might have only been two weeks to two months, but the cooties is the cooties. Nonetheless, Man, they're serious. I mean, being rich and having the cooties is one thing. It's still it's still the cooties. That's that's that's what covid is is crazy. Being broke this probably and having couzies.

The body is the worse. But listen, I know Rick insecure people, very insecure people. I like, I want to say their name so bad, trust me, not the shot get start. But listen, there's a lot of insecure people out there, so just just just just know that. But let's us move on, right, So you and ray Je, remember how did y'all actually get put it together? Like because your brothers now again, Yeah, nothing, that was it? And then like ship, you know, like you gotta scool

the bike. No, if I wasn't hit maker right now, ray J wouldn't funk with me, Like, let's be cool. I don't know what was going there, but for it, that's what are you talking about. I think that my success, Like you have to acknowledge me now now it's like, you know what, I always believe that you you always had the air for this ship type of thing. Like

what you're saying this sounds a little crazy. You don't think so No, no, I don't saying straight up, Jesu, I gotta I gotta catch my shot cut WHOA, So I mean that's kind of crazy. I understand what I'm I'm gonna keep it because you know that's cool. I'm sticking with sticking with the yall. You know what, I mean, holy movie. I wasn't ready for the answer just now. That's my though. I've just seen him. Listen. I famous story is Leo. Leo run me to his house one

day and said, you like this house? I said yes. He said, but make sure you had enough next year. So I can't invite you back for that. Terrible story but very rare. Yeah, right, because it's like he basically told me, Yo, you paid the bill for deaf Jam this year, you got the number one record, but make sure you how you come back. You're saying that's what

you're in ray J's relationship. But I prefer to like how Lee or is because it ain't no cut on that, you know what I'm saying, Like certain people lead you to believe that they're your best friend. You know what I'm saying that they executive and the same executive you get cold than they won't ever speak to you again. I feel like you're trying to say, ray they did that to you. I feel like, guess we're trying to say ray J is a good first and foremost, ray

That's a good guy. He's a good guy. I've had so many many experience ray J smashed everybody in the industry, like I looked up to ray J. That's how we got cool. I take it from ray J smash everything. Take it from that. Ray J smashed everything else. At one point he was back to back tour busses. Imagine me and ray J on a sexy ken tour and

picturement what's going on. I'm married, I am a married man, but I'm gonna live by Curious to you motherfucker's right now, let's describe what happened, not bike Curious, rest in peace to the lovely, the fucking legend. Let me tell y'all story. How do we get to rest in peace? Oh, I'm

like you talking down. Let's me talking about killing. We gotta take it people, some people, Okay, so talking about Hold, let me just figure about what we're gonna Let me figure about who we're gonna here, because we just I feel like you give us a rage Whitney story. Yeah, that's where we're going. Let's go. Let's go because probably my biggest party is in the corner looking like looking at me right now. So look be in Atlanta, and um we staying at this hotel and then um we

have a show at Compound Nightclub. So I go get in the car with Ray and Whitney Houston is in the car with us. So like Whitney was a gamester though she's a real ain't like y. I'm talking about, like we get the compound well first and foremost, do you understand what I'm saying. We took Whitney Houston to compound and perform Say and Canna. I'm feeling like you're saying kidnaps. No no, So we put a hoodie on her. We're parking them back. I'm like, damn, like we need

some drinks. She like rolled out the window, sent the security in the come out with the jumbo patron. It's back when niggas drinking patrone. Me and Whitney I'm throwing back patrol. I'm talking about like crazy crazy. She's smoking and chain smoking squares. It was. It was a vibe. So we go in the club, we do sexy can I now mind you damn don't look that way. So we had the hotel and like my hype man, I think my hype man and one of the people that was with me left, so like I had extra hotel rooms.

So Ray come to my hotel and he like yo berg um, I got the bitches that I brought back, Like, I know you got extra rooms, so go ahead and like give me your keys to the other rooms. So that's so, I give them the keys to the room. But I gave him one wrong key. So I'm looking for ray J. I'm going through and I'm like, when I'm gonna go to this room and look for this thing. I go on the room. I don't know where. Yeah, I'm kind of nervous about this Witney Houston taking her

pants off. I walked in the room like she getting naked and ray J room and she's like, hey out here young and I'm like, oh my dad, I'm sorry, and I ran out the room. Damn man, I don't know how to answer this right now. And I thought I've had every answer to everything and you're sucking me up right now. I was like, no, this is consequences to what I want to say. After they say I don't know what I want to say because this is I wasn't ready. He wasn't basically saying you sol Whitney

Houston nicking yeah, jeez, the wise. I don't know if it makes a noise for this. Bobby Brown might be mad we love. That's right, love Bobby, we love with me, We love all that ship. I'm just telling y'all my life. It's like my life. I can't seeing Maron menroll naked. It was that's like, wow, who you see naked? I don't kiss. The newest show is who Have? Who are you see? I'm not gonna lie, but you live a life.

We must say that you live a life. Um, we've been hearing about you knocking down a lot o Lord, I'm living. Who was one thing you knocked down to you was like whoa yo? I'm gonna tell you a crazy I don't mean no disrespect. I don't know. I don't know if you marry my I don't or whatever. This ship is crazy, like this is the first time, like I'm telling you my my young life. So after the whole DMX ship folds, Troy Carter and Jay Irving become my manager. Troy Carter, that's my man from Spotify.

I just made about all. So yeah, I used to manage Eve and Eve's also my big sister mentors. Well, she's the one who at my name was Iceberg. Eve called me young Berg for the first time, and that became my name. But she came. So I go to l A and like, UM, I don't got ship going on. I'm living in l A. I'm fucked up. And but I was with Eve and Evens on top of the world at this time, and then the boyfriend. Yet no, no, no, no, let me blow your mind when step fire. I'm just

one of them. So she was working on the next album. My first writing placement as a writer. I wrote the title track hook to Eve Evolution. That was the name of her album, Evolution. There's a song called Evolution on that. I wrote the hook to the song. You can actually still hear my vocals in the song and all other ship. So she gave me my first placement as well. She changed my name. She's been a big system, the mentor of me. So I started Troy signed this artist named

Morgan Smith. This girl is beautiful. She was like around my age. He like, yo, I'm gonna let you write the album like you didn't do this by blah blah. I wrote the album with um and I just got one of them, remember them cross fires like the Chrysler cross fire them a little to see the cars that the cry. I got one of them. No, I'm sorry

I don't remember that. Yeah, I got one of them, and I thought I was this ship, so like I ended up meeting like the girls from three l W remember that, ye remember that ain't one of them on a fuel? No? Yes? And then the other girls don't. The one that I smash is on power Okay, I know what was gonna No, we weren't. So I'll never forget this ship. This is the first time I ever like, like I learned the real life lesson like this day. Listen. So she I think she was living at some apartment

complex or where that we was cool. It was at the art Stone if anybody in l A already know about the art Stone. That's where all the artists used to live. This in North Hollywood or whatever. So I go to her crib. They're having a little party or whatever. It's like all the little three or W girls and ship and fucking uh we go on. We smash the power one. Yeah okay, but I was like girl, Yeah, I'm like girl, I'm like, it's the first smash girl. Look at you. I'm like, it's something in her pussy.

Like when I thought about like, I didn't know what he was going you're talking about because listen, this is the first and first moments right keeps catching me, but I don't even have a response. What did you say, sir? I'm sorry, So it was like felt like a mouse trapping up vain. I think you said damon or something. And that's the first time I learned about birth control. She had the U Okay, it's my first time. You

ain't never seen that, y'alla. You know, Oh my god, this is crazy, but you live in life all and I love you. This is years ago, this is twenty years ago. This is because I feel like you was being like I feel like like like he was getting that light skin nigger pussy, right, you know, y'all light skin niggers. Y'all get like kids and play. You're like you weould kid, light skin you you you get to Drake, drink us Drake Nani. So let's be clear. Let's be clear.

I think Drake got the best record in the game. And then are you like number two or three? We rank yourself or you're saying you up there with Drake. To be honest, I think that we all have kind of like entertained and dealt with the same women. But I'm kind of off that now Like now I'm just like now I'm an executive, like now that I'm you know what I'm saying, like for vice president Lantic Records, Like I a CEO of my own record company. Okay, we're not talking about that two about the past and

it passed. Yeah, okay, my jersey is up there. Of course we're tiring. Yeah, ok mm, interesting me ray J. Keep doing the Hall of Fame is a wolf. He's in the Hall of Fame's cheeping the wolf's clothing. Yeah, that's a sniper lists. Yes, man, I like your guys. Shout out to my brother. French is a sniper too. He's a sniper and he got the list and also on executive in French Montana's new album is about the company to the album, Yeah, so shout out like a

lot of ecstasy in that ship. I love that. Sober Friends is a different vibe different. I'm talking about the name Cold Turkey, like to the part that you feel bad even drinking in front of It's Cold Turkey. Brother. I a lot though, because I'm like a little sensitive ruse. I'm a little like I like eminem right, like, but I like the drug outaminem a little bit more. That makes me an up person. You love Cody Ain Wayne, you love call Sir Away, you love the music, but

you're happy for the person. It's different. It's different. I'm not sure. I think I love the person a little bit. I don't care what drug drugs is like the drugs is part of the music and like most of my friends and drugs drugs like heroin, crazy, gonna lie like I mean, now, I didn't want the person goes sober, sober, I'll be like sober, but like I'm gonna be clod out. French Montana sounds the best I've ever heard French Montana life right now? What makes yeah? So he just went,

He just went. He just went, Walla, Walla. He was a French Yeah. We got Yeah. He's just I don't know. He has a documentary that's coming along with the album that's explain I'm gonna let him explain his own journey because I don't even know it. Like I'm one of the niggas that I don't really ask too much questions, you know what I'm saying, Like, I just want to get the work done. So shout out to French man. We got records man, We got we got one. He's

coming back with a vengeance I love. We were talking about NAS earlier. We got French has one with John Legend and Nas. That's amazing and ideas the second one because didn't they have no that was Kanye. Okay, Yeah, that's hard John. Let you and thank you, and you're doing the whole album. Probably I'm executive producing the album, okay.

Meaning what that means. That means even when produce submit beats that you you look over it now, like if he does other songs with other producers, I might go in and restructure it or tell him I don't save this song. I don't feel it. You know what I'm saying? Like just that type of ship, how much that cause to get you to do? Um? It seems like a hot, like a hot like mid six figures hot, short feast feat stomp or hand clap, Let's let's try to feet

stop goddamn it. Okay, I'm giving fifty tho a track right now. Ain't nobody getting fifty Nick is giving up Beast Huntred five. We're getting fifty Bendos track. But and the crazy thing is that I feel like as an executive and just as a producer. It's my duty to put people on game. And like all my co producers that I work with, like, I'm probably the only person in the business that has song deals with almost every

company in the game have song deals everywhere. So they just paid me in bolt up front and then they pay my nas song bill. So say, well, I say, you work for Epic Records and you want to give me you Silvi your own You say you know I wanna. I want to lock in with you. You give me pay me for twenty five songs for thirty thousand up front and then take care of the co produce on the back end. And then that's what I'm say. So what does what the producers you? You collapse with man?

I love my people's um Well Smash David is one of my guys. O G. Parker, Prince Frishan is my partner. We do everything together. London J is an incredible person I work with um Man, it's like it's an army of us, like twelve of us. I don't produce in a way that other people produce, like niggas make beats. I'm like the puff daddy of this generation. Like and I set out like I looked Puff his eyes and told him, I'm you when you was on that ship,

I'm you would watch me bring it back? And then you tell by radio like all the records has been flipped. What do you mean by that? The samples a sample wise and lifestyle wise. Well, now his lifestyle is a little bit different than mine, but just like musically, like the energy that he brought to the game at that time of being a CEO, like, I'm I'm not reincarnated, I'm the second coming to that right now? You know, God,

that makes some noise. That So what made you even want to do to be out of the show thing though? Because I was working with Nicki Minaj and Puff and I was like, no, yeah, I was, uh, how does that have anything to do with love? And so? But that's your nicky old pump did not recommend you doing another hip hop cap look it did. So let me tell you all crazy story how man, Nicki Minaj. So, I was at a studio called glenn Wood. It where you came to see me a studio you had candles

as candles. I was at this studio. I see candles. I'd be like, ship is calm, Like I'm sorry, I went to So I came to see one of my dear friends, Sounds. He's a producer also, and I was there, but I was just there in like a homey capacity, like I wasn't there like to work or nothing like that. And my brother, who Doc, shout out, my brother Doc. He was with me. He drove me to the session and he's like, man, I think I've just seen Nicki Minas. I think Nicki Minas was my studio. I'm like, what

So the night before you've never met Nicky Price. Never the night before I did a record and I named it Nicki and hit Maker. I did that Mike Karen studio. Shout out to Mike Karen and I had it with me and I was like, damn, this ship ain't no coincidence, Like this ship must be real. So I told my nigga Doc, just just throwing in the air, like tell her that I want to play some record for us. So you went to security and the security um when and uh, they told me like give her twenty minutes.

So they came and got me in twenty minutes. I was like, oh, ship, you had to go to her studio. She was in an eight room. We was in like a smaller room. So I went to the studio with her and I'm just playing ship and like she started working with it. I could tell like I'm going I'm dropping bomb bang and like going crazy and then um

the fund The wildest thing of that whole day. What was really inspirational for me and what like blew my mind is that after all the songs have played, she was like, you know what, Um, I ain't gonna lie like I've been working with you since this and she went and played my song in the Business as young Burg or whatever her laptop and was dancing to it and all other ships and like at that point, like we we can't like brother and siss man like I did. I think I did, uh six or six records on

the Pink Print album something like that. How was checks looking pretty nice? Did the chess coming pink? Who's somebody that, um, what's somebody that you worked with that you didn't think in many years you would ever work with. I know you've mentioned the j and the Gucci man earlier, but who's somebody like you know, maybe didn't take a shot at you, but you just didn't think we have a call mm hmm. It's most awkward ship. What's the most awkward ship? Dona ain't asked you to think about? Nah?

Ain't that really very awkward? My bro? Like it's like I've had legendary ship though, like like for me um working with Charlie Wilson, Like like Charlie Wilson coming in my studio. That seeing some ship over. You know what I'm saying, Like, what's epic for me? Um? And I work with everybody who's left that you want to work with? It it's only two and be honest. Then the person coming through this door, that sunny d oh ship? Oh shit, sorry, so he thought it was a sunny day. It's a

far of life. Bro. Oh so that's it? Just hoping Beyonce you wont be oes no, and sure and you got something with Kanye Yeah he did my demo. Yeah that's right there. Okay, bro, everybody else has come, but you can say it like that. What got signed a DMX Yes, yeah, producer. He was under no idea at that time though, go get us. What was his name, kan West? Did he have a polo back then? He used to live on ninety five in Western right across the street from JJ's fish and like they had like

a little spot or whatever. We used to go in there or whatever, and man, like the man's a legend. Man like they just know where we come from. Like granted, what's going on now like all the other stuff and we know that like musically, like I respect him, you know what I'm saying, Like I watched it like that that kind of like what's the inspiration? That's what mag niggas believe that you actually could get out the city. It was not common. Comment is my brother, but comment

and twister my brother. But like you kind of took it at leaps and bounds further and then you know what in a in a fast time coming crop to yeah now comment no ideas a producer was doing a lot earlier. I remember like no I d was like Yoda of Chicago, like and every good if no idea good? Why the fun? I got to drinks? What happened? Because one was a shot? I pull up my in the shot. You didn't drink your shot. I don't know, that's my boy. I'm get you. Come on, you ain't. You ain't saying nothing.

You ain't saying another shot. Listen, you've been patient about doing drink champs. I really respect how we shout speak to each other and our schedule conflicts didn't actually work. Yeah, and you stuck around and I really appreciate that. I really do you see your every day struggling and show like that. I felt sorry for you. Shout yo, Joe is oh, I'm gonna finish. It's crazy Joe didn't kind of became my brother like and that's that's what's why great god man, I'm trying to squash with him and

Gilly the Kid right now. Really, I love Gilly Angel. I think they I think I think they're both tripping him. But I think I think I think you know, you know your like skinned brothers. You know how y'all get down. You know when you're gonna skip me, and I'm gonna keep it on. Honey, you already know what everybody beef this over three things those hose ever, money and beef is impossible to see that the nigger ego right something to do with a women woman playing with that money.

So let's talk about some of yours because like when you you know, obviously when we google you, I have to do I have to do like else, So people is google you like your your drama comes up, Like why do you think that it even circles around you? Like for instance, like main, no, right, like what happened

between you and man, I don't even nothing. Um, I want to tell the truth so much about this, but the way the situation was handled kind of like I don't know what happened or that, and you know what I'm saying, because I was really cool man, But like all right, I'm gonna tell the story. So look, um, we in this back in the Ecstasy days. I'm a young bird the artist. We in Atlanta, and we we go to the club this night and situation that happened with me and Trick trick already So I had a

like they did like to transform a chain. I had a long time about they did some duffer that in Detroit. So I had a chip on my shoulder. And I'm gonna tell the stories because like I want to be transparent to everybody and so hopefully somebody can learn from ship. So I had a chip on my shoulder. Me and man it was cool man. It was on the remix of my song and business like all that you know. And from there, like I went in the club and like I was annoying. I was tripping, like I was

bugging out this night like I performed. I was kissing women on stage while I was performing, like I was in a whole different bag, like like I was in some real different and feeling Porto Rican in name women and uh, I guess, I guess fucking I don't know.

I felt the way about something. And then like like I kicked it off with men like I was just on some boyshit, like I felt like he was trying to play me for some reason he really wasn't, and like I was at at the time, Yeah, yeah, and I did some dumb ship, you know what I'm saying. So from there, like we had spoke and uh, like I talked to him after the whole incident because it was like it was like a little situation like something happened. I had security with me and these people went on.

It was like a little small, little scrumming skirmish. So from there, um, I think t I put me on the phone shot and what I'm saying TI, um like shot it should be coming, shot, I'm ready to ye to take it. M somebody from Grand Hustle at the time. It put me in Maine on the phone after the fact,

let's just give out of props whatever, imagine. And I was just and we spoke and I was just telling him like my truth, like yo, bro, like I'm going through it like then, you know, like it's like I'm in a I'm in a wild space, like you know what I'm saying, Like something happens, you know what I'm saying, Things have happened to me that I don't really reflecting me.

And I just don't want to feel like, you know what I'm saying, people feel that it's like they can just try me in any moment, you know what I'm saying, just talking to him, and he was like, yo, Birke, I perspect you, um, but I don't like the people that you're hanging around, like they don't mean no good for you. And like he gave me some game and I was like, yeo, I appreciate that, bro. And then ship.

When I hung up the phone, I never forget. I was riding in my motherfucker range Rob and uh he just started doing interviews and started talking about the incident to due that he was talking about he may know, just went and the interviews and talked about the incident. I don't know, like this is my recollection, you know what I'm saying, Like I thought on some g ship we had spoke after the fact that this is the next day, and like I was looking at him like

a big homie, you know what I'm saying. So, but I mean they kind of like went I was, I was, I was hot, shifted of time. So they kind of win, and you know, used it for the beneficial of them. You know what I'm saying. It's super lack for lack of because I don't really really know. But why did you even have problems? I didn't. I don't have no problem with trick. Trick my brother wanted, well somebody that was a part of my entourage who is also still my brother that I really respect. Um, they had an

issue and I was just a casualty of that. I never met that. I never met that man in Detroit, in Chicago, like Jersey and New York, I never met that man of damn my life. I don't know. I don't know him. We've never spoken words or anything. I was just a casualty because I was the star. So say you're norry saying your man it gets into it with something and y'all go shoot somebody or do some crazy ship it falls all on you. You know what I'm saying, And that was the whole situation. So imagine them.

You know what I'm saying, like actually had nothing to do with me. You don't even understand where it's coming from. I ain't know, dude. I know where it was coming from. It was from somebody that was in my answer. Oh so you understood that the person in your answer watch had committed whatever whatever they was. I okay, I honestand yeah, because I mean, man, you know what and you you do it all bro. You wrote it's like a fucking phoenix, man,

Like that's real. Ship, Bro's real. Ind I'm a testimony. That's why I like doing it Like this is rarely that I really do interviews or whatever, Like it might be breakfast club or one of the motherfucker's of this, but dream chances like like, I really can say everything I want people to be wanting to know. I'm just an open book, and I think that's the disperation for

other motherfucker's. You know what I'm saying. Not one incident that had me scared, it's one incident that had me scared at all the incidents, like like I kind of mind my business because that's just the person I am. But after pop smoke, right, there was a something about your house. Some girls invited. And now, like all the other incidents, me and you, we knew each other, but we didn't know each other. And through that, like you know,

seeing you engage, we developed a relationship. We changed it, changed numbers. This was the first time I got I got nervous, right, because everything else that kind of looked like propaganda. But after pop smoke, I forget what happened. It was something that a girl called police to you, to your normal girl called gangsters to your house. I mean, um, all right, I'll explain that situation because um, I'm just transparent, like the truth of the truth. So that girl I

was dealing with, you know what I'm saying. She wasn't my girlfriend and nothing like that, Like she was somebody I was cool with. We just had a sexual relationship. Like she put up on me. We smash and we keep it moving. They've never been never been to the studio, we've never been on a date. We never had no interactions of any sort of that. So I hadn't spoke to it for a while and like she was on Instagram live and I just like, this is the first

is the quarantine? So like we was. I was in the house all day, like yeah, no, no, I was in the house all the day. I don't think. I don't know why I said four I was. I was basically in the house all day, like being creative, thinking about samples, shopping, going back and forth with co producers. I had drink and like day drinking, you know what I'm saying, Like just just having a vibe about the

pool type ship. So, um, I fell asleep early, like like seven, I woke up into in the morning and then um, she uh she was on Instagram lib I sent like a little emji and then she would she text me like I haven't seen you in a wild babe, Like let me pull up on you. So I sent up within my crib and she got to my crib and I put the alarm on in my house and like, uh, we was just in the house chilling, and I think I said something to it like and then she was like, yo,

say it again. I don't remember what, and then she slapped the ship out of me. So now like I'm seeing stars and this is not your usual relationship like like that. I certain like and I'm telling this story for anybody that's in l A because l A is this ship treacherous. Right now, you're saying, Yo, I'm scared. I got PTS. I can't even really entertained a woman like I got security twenty four hours day. I can't. You know what I'm saying. I'd like the Chinese guys. Sorry,

I just feel like he's gonna kick somebody head. Sorry, shout bro, Sorry, I just feel like I just feel like he's a he's a right guy. He's a right guy security. Yeah, he's gonna kick somebody head off. I'm telling keeping it real, bro, long story short, like she slapped me. I pulled my phone out because you know these times like I got cameras all in my house everybody, but you know these times we live in and ship just going on right now. That's how you showed down

or whatever she said. You threw out some footage. You said, look at the y'all gonna pick you killed that. But I mean, you know, like at the end of the day, like yeah, so from they was trying it was it

was three guys, was three yallars. She was showing up okay, and there was three guys with guns and ship like that trying to come and kick in my crib and I had the alarm on and then you know, and like the crazy thing is like when it was happening, instead of her being like a girl that was in the midst of a home invasion, like I was like, she was fighting me. She trying to fight me. She punched me again when it happened, So I was like people, Yeah, yeah, bro,

it was Bro. I'm still like I'm still dealing with PTSD from that ship. I'm trying to charge for you. Bro. That's that's you shouldn't went through that, Bro. You worked too hard. Bro. Yeah, So is this girl from l A or she wished from Rancho Cucamonica. She from l A. Let me tell you the craziest ship he goes. He

goes the craziest ship. So that happened immediately, like you know, like I lawyered up, you know what I'm saying, got all this ship and I came down here to Miami and just laying low and fucking uh I casually like I'm cool with pop smoke girlfriend or whatever. You know what I'm saying, wrest in peace, and she had hit me like yeo, like the same dude, dog Yeah, bro, wow, that's why I don't even want to talk no more about that. I get it, I get it, I get it.

But that's the reason why it was the same week it got listen before you. You don't even have to get into it. You don't have to say no more. That's what I felt. I felt like because I don't. I just I just felt that I felt that. I'm sorry, bro, I'm sorry. I don't know. I was holding at you, I was checking on you. Hopefully you've got those messages. I appreciate. You know. My phone was like I had to cut the phone off because you know, it was too much like going off because it's like I don't

subscribe to people. I'm sorry to cut you off, but I don't try to keep that. I don't know exactly, damn, but describe how real that is in l A. Because most people say, you think most people think you could go to l A. You go avoid the gangs, hang out the soul house, hang out their motherfucking you know, uh fucking h ivy. You know what I'm saying, And and boy hang out both Dantanna's no more the then you could do that and then you go avoid the

gangs and whatever. But well, godless of what when youre in l A, you evolved with politics. I don't even know if it's gangs or whatever. You know what I'm saying, because all the bloods and crypts. You know what I'm saying, like that the people that I know that's bloods and crips like shout out to big you, shout out to you know what I'm saying, Like like we said whack one, honey. But everybody CRIB and l A gets tempered with it

at some point. Yeah, because one person I don't know I'm not even talking about, like people who moved to l A. They even the game crip at one point, I think that ship trendy right now, Like I think that's just the thing. Wow, what is trying to with Crib? Just scary though, you know what I'm saying, because it's like, think about it, what you want you come in my carib one. I might have a you might have something some jury on you, but most of the ship put

up being only that everything is insured. Yeah, then I'm hiding my ship like a nigger. Of course, this chain is in a jacket pocket in the guest room or something like that. Like I'd be losing the ship myself. I can't tell you where the ship. Yeah, so you want to you want to kill and along going off the police on the way. Ah, what you're gonna do on our point? Crazy? Oh God bless you, yo, bro man, Now we got to take a shot to that, because you know what, when I see you know, you know,

you know. I got a friend, right and he's here. If he wants to claim this story, he can claim this story. But he doesn't have to claim this story at all. But I got a friend, and I really wanted to pursue. He had to check the cane to his christ. I feel like he was, Nah, come on, I don't like to win this story, tender. That's why you don't gotta clay you. But I said, yo, let's get to private detective. I wanted to follow to y'all. I wanted to see if she continues to do this

type of ship. They think the police knows that, but listen, I actually wanted to a documentary be about these but not in their favor, not in their favor I'm talking about like I want to follow them, act like that we're reporters and whatever whatever, but they don't really know that we're setting them. They're lying the funk up. I'm sorry I went I never wanted to be in that situation.

That ship was so unfortunate. I would never wish that ship or nobody that ship like a nightmare, like a movie, like I don't even know how to move after the fact. You know what I'm saying, We're gonna We're gonna start a revolution, but you know our own bitch, We're gonna set them back up. Listen, I'm gonna watch all right, I gonna come out of the documentary and three is you think I'm bullshit? I'm finding a bit right. That bitch that was came to Aventure. It's gonna care. I

don't know how. I'm sorry, yo yo home. Let's way for the FEN, should we It's wait for your fen. That's way for her fense, so we can do it and then we're gonna go into positive ship. So sorry, but I had to get this out there because I'm a journalist. I'm a fernalist. You know what I'm saying. I went too far. No you didn't go too far. You didn't go too far. When who's the department? Maybe we're talking that's my But this is great, This is great.

This islet just say, y'all know this is great media. This that's what it is. It's real talk. You know what I mean. You came see me yesterday, we were sitting down, we drink, and you really it's a kill a guy. Yeah, that's very that's very because to kill us aggressive drink. Now, it's not hannessy, it's an aggressive drink. I don't drink. Honestly, I don't know why you That's what I'm saying. In my car used to carry who are you talking about? Before the shot? Shot? So? Was

it was right? It was that wrong? Was right? I didn't I just said someone random solo. Yeah. Hm, I'm not gonna lie. I have a kamplaint. We've been doing this for quite time. We know at some point we're gonna take a shot. Why doesn't nobody chill the bottle? None of our bottles are chilled. Yeah, I'm not gonna lie. In Columbia, White, you haven't had COMMI White, Columbia. Let me tell you something. If you want to slip cocaine without slipping cocaine. Just hit that Columbia works. That is

a bit of my liquor right here. I want the ending. No tequila, it's just all yeah, it's the national drink of Colia. Practice. Yeah, you've never been a Columbia. Nah on the outro. Maybe No, I'm not gonna likes him crazy. I love him on my when I swear he's one of my closest friend, I love him. But when it comes to that, I agree with him promoting it, but I want him to chill it. That's all put two. I'm bugged that you never heard of you never had Columbia, bitch.

Come on, bro, you never heard you not thing down. Bro, you never never had I drinks. But you know, it's just like Ganya from Puerto Rico to It's the same as Kanya. Listen. Listen is very similar. It's the process before rom young Bird and everything. Man, trust me, brot I know this roller decks man, I took me. I know I know the dregs he took down. Bro, he don't even want to he don't even want to make

some of that. I like it. I like that. That's what makes some But you ever thinking like certain envisions with you just for the beats, because I mean I would take it just for the yea like now like you know, like it's it's it's it's women that hit me up that like one of um like well damn no, Like I've experienced artists, right, not some random chick that's

just all suddenly want to be an artist. It's weird because of like I'm taking to either story, like there's a surge of female m c s now, you know what I'm saying, So, like I think there are a lot of women think that it's possible. You know what I'm saying, upcoming girls. It's girls you don't even know of. You know what I'm saying. I meet women that I'm attracted to that I'm actually trying to date, and then

they'll be like but I rap two. So I don't know if like I'm getting at this point they try to take you, I don't know, you know what I'm saying. Like it's weird because like it's like a mind gag because like are you it's just a business meeting or like a business meeting, like are you here to like it's business way Okay, So I don't don't know. It's a little weird. But are you looking for love? Yeah? Yeah, I'm trying to get locked down locked I don't know.

I'm never just gonna be with one woman. Where is this show going? I don't know. I never know what this show is going to. You know, it's fantastic. We don't have enough women here coming women? You know, I forgot who then inself, I said, I don't think you should bring your girl? Did not hear you say that? All your shows are like a niggers things like we got man Pool six No fool? Okay? But you know

what is this hip hop? And at the beginning the only business that came to the parties was the business with sneakers. I don't like the bitches sneakers. I like rad bottom business. I'm sorry, I'm going to be be barred to me again. I'm sorry. Let me know that, all right? So, but right now you look like baby ice Cube? Really baby? You know old black l a, right? Is that rubbing off on you? Negative? You're gonna be shot town nigga for the rest of your for sure

that that ship is embedded in me. But I mean no, I'm at late nigger too, like a lot like Chicago at fourteen years Yeah, yeah, I'm fourteen years after you. You're a Miami, Miami. They I gotta I gotta claim it. You're Miami. I'll be saying, I'll be saying back that up, saying say yea, I went to New York with that. They killed me. I was like, you go over there. I was like, yeah, that up, Like I'll be there because been that up somebody And that's why they all laugh.

So who the baddest beach that you smash? When you say yo yo yo y I have my day. What I'm saying, Yeah, back in the day, like when you was super thut, Like, what's one? But like I guess because you got me on here confessing ship. I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie. I don't like famous bitches, yo, I don't. I still don't. You never there's not one. You're like, what are you going with this? I'm like, no, I n man, I'm nicky man. No, don't even know

its man is my homie. I'm telling you, Like where he from, I really know, Like he's a good dude, like a lot of I don't know. I don't know, but I never knocked I never I never really knocked down famous business. Um, I never. I wasn't into the points I like. I like famous, regular bitches famous, That's what I like that I was. That's like Instagram. I was in the Megan Stadion from forty projects, you know, not Megan stuff. You know what I'm saying from one

fight too now, I say from high Lea. You know that's the type of y'all video vixing famous one back in the day, some famous video vixing. No, you know, I would even called the little one a little crazy on the video soup. That's that's one for the Hurricane Cup Hurricane I was quarantining quarantine like sexy. Can I believe you bring me ecstasy too? I don't like, I don't ecstasy. And he don't mean to act like he was.

My dad never did I was. I never did, even sitting back like you calling stock like why you right? We put a lot of people, Yeah, he was. The play was one stop, one stop with Miami. It kind of was one stop. But this is the crazy about ear Fin. He's gonna give you ecstasy, he's gonna give you marijuana. Be's gonna get sixteen from you. It's going to have the portable book had a portable booth. No, you don't understand what I'm saying. Back in the day, we had a two inch rail eight It's like a dork.

It was like you had to like, you know, a door, I said, dark a doorf like a door like a little people. Look, you had to pick it up. That's the record. And this guy had the only portable student. I never I never asked him, how the funk you don't have an eight inch doorf with you? You got the motherfucking recorded student that moves everywhere. He got it. He got classic freestyles from me. I don't even remember doing.

I know he got like two albums worth the material, But do you remember you don't even remember the rails because you're too young, you know. Super Thrug was one one one verse cap like he knows he likes this too. That's why he's take cap because he wants me to tell this cap one each two verses, how many verses on verses? All three verses was the same tape, just straight through. We didn't know how to do what take was that. I ain't gonna lie. He might got me

on that and who's that singing in the background. Is that Kalise? That was not Calise, never was Kalise. I apologize for people who think that's Kalise because Plie came later. But who's that? Damn you look Google man, you people guests in in front of Come on bro, come on, Tammy, Lucas, damn you correct. So that was the only part I changed on Bird is when for roll gay to me, she was singing. She was singing, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, don't do it ever again. But it recreated that moment.

So I called for Road. I said, can I change up to say what? Why? What? He was like, of course, and he did that. And the thing is, I told you this yesterday, but I'm gonna say it again. That's how I used to count bars that was never supposed to be a hook what what what? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? To the place holder for the bars that heard you back there? You still don't know how to count still

counterbars still don't come. And that's how. And it was crazy because I was doing right track with colding studios, and I remember I laid the whole ship and I could see for Els and Chad and Rob Walker and people that there was a kind of amazed, like, Yo, this dude just laid the hole. But that's what I did, because at that time, that's what I did. So I just laid it. And how many takes did it take to get that one? I don't want to show off, but I think that was the first tape. I don't

want to but you went on that scene. No, definitely, precacy, definitely, But I would love to give the excess to the proms. Just trust me. But that was that era. You had the song done before you got to the studio. Now let me let me explain to you. This is the first day I met for I walked in the studio and Sound on Sound studios. A lot of people don't know about Sound on Sound studio. Sound on Sound studiol was across the street from Bad Boy Studios. It was

around the corner Biggie. It was so hot at the time. Biggie didn't want to use bad Boy Studios, so he would come around the corner and Sound on Sound with me. So it's only two studios, but the Sound on Sounds students upstairs and the downstairs. So Biggie we have upstairs and I got downstairs and I'm looking like, yo, bag, can you go back to bad boy? Like I'm on the way. Too much pressure the baby. So anyway, okay, well I was gonna bringing this up for I forgot

I was going. We were talking about one takes on real. So I walk in there for all goals. He quotes bloody money to me. He goes, you all get the bloody money already, cash, a lot of things, smoke, we call sta, You're sneak, quiet, talk about me, and I'm looking. He just he knows every lyric because I'm looking. I want to because I don't never say. I say, New York, get the bloody money, dirty cash, live niggas, smoke, we cast the stash, your monkey, walk on, hunch back, sneak, quiet,

talk about me, gossup, scared the death. When I pop up, everyone says, talk about me, gossa. We think you're flipping Spanish you. It's a lie. I said, talk about me and gossip. So I was waiting for all to make that mistake, and he said talk about me gossip. When I looked and I said, he's on and what mind you? Soon as he finished, he told me I'm not a thug at all. He told him, Yes, it is the most verse I've ever spit. He's like, I'm not a thug at all. He's like, I have one thug bone

in my body. And I was like, I like this guy immediate because I like that, like keep it real. They played me one beat, play me another beat, and he said this other beat, don't listen to. And that's when I got on the plane landed in Miami Kid Hotel. But never forget it. They can't I wash it when it was still trash. It was dope trash. It was. It was that time that we did the interview with academic. Everybody know it's a kid hotel, Okay, I don't. I don't know what every Yeah, I just went. I know.

I went downstairs and all my nigas was so happy being downstairs because they didn't realize that every miss they told to was a hooker. They didn't realize that. I realized that. I realized the earlier on I looked at the chicken. Chick said you don't want the party. I said, Uh, it's either party means either coke gang whatever. Party. You not with that? And I didn't got so. I remember the room, but it was remember the I played the seed and it's the first time I've ever seen that

the producer made a beat for me. It's just that man, well, you know, And I was just like I had just I had just google the English Channel and I was like, the English Channel people run and swim, do ship like this, and my man just died. So a lot of people don't understand what I'm saying. In the first of all, I say, I light a candle, light the camera because my friend just died. Run laps around the English Channel and that tunes. I got a cock of span you. At the time, you was a pistol, so we was

naming it. So a lot of it was just like this, think it don't make no sense, stupid the bridge that this isn't like style that was after I can see that might have been the greatest question I've ever got, asked, bro, hold On, I have no idea, Bro, that has to be for us doing I could see that being for us doing that. He didn't ask. He didn't ask that.

He asked, wasn't there as I'm laying the verse because he said the hook like it if I didn't think it was there, I kind of I can now that you say it because you sold me up that it was such a great question. Is I think it was dead when you're saying you recorded superdrug here? No I recorded. I wrote super Thug in the kids Hotel. I wrote it straight. Sometimes I heard somebody saying, listen at this time, Pete Rock, you know they're not doing beats for you.

That's that they're saying. You come to the studio, you do a beat for me. For all, did a beat for me without me being the studio. And let's be clear, that's very cocky and confident of him. He put my name on it like he's going to take it that that was hard. And I looked and I had the

number one record in New York. I thought it was the number one in the world because I found like New York the world in New York everywhere else and when it was like and that was a groundbreaking record because someone from New York, that record sound like a South That was a South record on that motherfucker. Yeah, listen to me. So I think this nig is a

motherfucker's smart dude. I don't gonna stop saying that. We gotta stop it now that goes you're bringing it out of me right now, I'm blaming you all the way. I'm that's a joke. Everybody knows we're joking. But I'm not gonna lie when I did that and I've seen because what what was made up? I'm gonna say something I probably never said before we did L A L A the record. I was disgusted in this session because, and I'm saying this will all due respect, but every

one of these guys are hyper dudes. But at the time Niles was winning so much, everybody wanted to be smooth. So everybody versus like, have you ever been to Queensbridge? There's not a smooth person. There's not a smooth So that's what what once was? What what? What? What? What? Just looking like y'o what the funk? Why y'all acting like it translated? I made some money off it, but

shout out to for real he produced it. Ship out that motherfucker, Like I was saying a story like how you ain't even know this and know that I've experienced them type of situations like I've been that, Like that was the hook and then if he comes. The hook is the time when you like artists doubted you and you had to like tell them that you please trust me as a producer. As a producer, I know there

hasn't been plenty of times once. Uh. I think I did a joint project with Jared Minds had all the sign or whatever that was just like a producer we got I feel like involved. Yeah it's um it's a song called the Light that um I'll produced with A

on keys shout out to a on keys. And then we did the record and they kind of like didn't want it to be the single or like you know what I'm saying, and um, not they but j J probably Jeremiah was like I don't think it should be the single, but like I kind of forced the hand and that record got a plaque to it, you know you know what I'm saying. So, but the job with you, jeremiad changed my life. Jeremiah's like the Jeremiah Big Sean hook Big Sean bounced back back. We did. Uh we

did that in my house. Yeah, show out to Jeremiah, like he changed my life. Man Like after loving hip hop, like I was feeling like I was getting the cooties again twice. Yeah, I was like I was getting the coo. I definitely had the Coolies four and then Jeremiah like took me on tour with him and yeah, he went on tour with j Cole, Big Sean and h y G. And that's how I met Big Sean. I was able to get him the song bounce Back or whatever. Jeremiah like, he changed my hands down it. My life as hit

maker wouldn't be the same without Jeremiah. Let's make a no for Jeremiah. By the way, Jeremiah, don't think I forgot Jeremiah did a record with me. I forget who produced the record. Was it S P. K Or or Charlie Brown. He did a record for me and he helped me down bro. I tried to evoid someone to like give it what's up? And he just like, I got your record with you with Jeremiah, you're scared to put it out like you're scared by the way I like his segments. Scott's good man, you ain't gonna lie.

It's your time for you to have your own podcast, to be honest, because you know why, I don't gotta beat the stories out of you. You liked story, you like it, and I'm telling you that's that's a gift that's a gift. Because I'm gonna be honest, I'm starting to listen to people who have only fans. I thought, are you listening to people? But the people that have this, people own it is not naked. And I'm like, yeah,

that's Patreon, that's another form of Patreon. I don't know what one of them apps that if you got only fans, you ain't naked, go kill yourself. There's a lot of people that's not naked. Especially think about think about thinking about if you every tweet you you tweet it right, and you can get hunted something to tweet right, and that should just keep piling. But you're not thinking about it that I'm thinking, like, I'm not saying I'm getting only I'm about to say you are. You sound like

you crazy? But my point is not only fans. My point is for podcasts. My point is the same way you on Twitter, the same way you want fucking Facebook and Instagram. You're just getting a like or whatever whatever if you sit, because that's what the podcast is. A podcast is like, let me just talk to my people. People. I can't talk that much stories. I'm killing you. You have been doing a great job. Do you think that y'all my favorite podcast. Let me tell you something because

I'm being honest with you. You live an interest in life, bro, and most people. I love the fact that you wake up every day, not only because you're rich. But people try to control your narrative, meaning they try to make you your last situation. So if your last situation was what, let me just say my secar or something right like I went in that, I'm sorry, but they try to define't wait wait yeah good, they're trying to define you as that, So you want my se are good? I

love my secre. We just went to Mr Child's and then we went the studio. My daughter's that I did. I love her. I love her daughter like you know what I'm saying. Like a daughter is like a start to me, you know what I'm saying. But Maska is also like she's your boss a bit and you're never gonna get married, right, you know you have no ship? No, I don't want I want to contract. I want to

do the contract. I'm cool. I cannot. I could be married, but not legally that way, I don't have to, you know, pre number you know what I'm saying, Like a offender. One Dr dre outside right now, you see how outside that sloop? You see the flaw I love, I love, y'all. Was my man said to be nine, But didn't you just see the bitch with him? Why y'all on the lor laying down with your elbows up. Your elbow was out way too fair. That was a great man. I'm

with that, but he'd be up. But that's what I'm saying. I think, like you gotta like like falling like deep love get funked up and then you have your daughter Like it ain't no deep, No, this love ship ain't deep. This ship is just a business like this. These girls wants you when you got something and we ain't got nothing on wants you. And then it's a rare percentage

that I actually down or whatever. But like I ain't gonna lie, like I've live majority of my life in a public form or whatever, and like I've been me for so it's hard for me to gauge or say like is it because you know what I'm saying, Like you know how certain people be like, man, I know my girl loved me ship, I ain't had nothing when you're when you got money and then you meet a girl it's kind of hard to you know what I'm saying. Shot, So it's one of them. Jesus, So I'm gonna be

by myself. However, yeah no, but like like a bunch of vibes, don't you know what I'm saying? You watch the shot? No, very never watched the shot and you formed the cargo. It's good. Where's your friends at right now? Hold on, come over here, brother, You watch the shot? All right? Cool? Yo? Wait a minute, what do you say to the company. But I mean, I expect Billy to watch this shot like Billy is fucking Billy is,

and Jack like he does everything expect shot. No, man, you gotta expect me to be in the studio, give me radio and keep killing. Honest, we all got a little vices. We all got our little thing. Listen, this is one thing that I need you to support from your own city. I don't check it out. I'm not gonna lie. I feel like I'm in your city every Sunday. Really, it's one of them. Oh you know, you know I'm

black and Porter weekend. You know, like I have my cousins from one side of Chicago and my cousin from the other side called the street from each other. But one is black and one is quarter week in thirty years never death serious. I come to the shot and like, holy shit, you're my cousin. Like, listen, that ship is don't want to watch the shot? Okay, yeah, then you gotta stop watching fucking shows, brol What the fund do I want? I don't even do you watch it? I

don't watch TV, bro, you don't watch TV. I just work. My whole life is dedicated to No. I mean I just get on YouTube. You point no, you know I can't believe anybody because we know what this would happened. The other day, I'm watching the shot. This is how I got put onto the shop. I was offended by the way Lena white homie, we're gonna be gonna get holder. But that's that's gotta do with this. One day I'm sitting around talking and a friend, I forget what friends

says it. He said, the shot is better than the wire? Is it in the same vein of the wire? It's in the same vegor But k I threw a book bag at the nigg what e it was next to me when he said the shot is better than the white stewish and he's like, I think I'm bullshit gonna watch him now. He shouldn't have said it's better. He should have said it, and we're ahead. When you feel, when you feel, you feel, nah, I feel it is, Bro, I can't tell you that. I can't tell you the

shot is not real. Bro, listen, I ain't gonna lie to you because all right, so you guys been to Bortomore. Obviously you guys been to Bortomore. Have you guys spend time? I spend time in the shot, like my half of my family, my old Bato Rican family. That's the only thing missing in the show is that they ain't got gonna Porto Ricans. That's the only thing it Mexicans. Yeah, bro,

it's Porto Rican and Mexican people. I know. That's the only that's the only thing that I have got caught out of out Chappo first operation was getting very emotions. But holy sh it, so so all right, hit me out, now, hit me out. So God says this is better than the wire. So I throw a book bag out with books. I'm just wondering. You know, it's you know his name, it's probably so and then so my wife is watching it. So I'm like, allright, cool, I'm just a hater, Like

I don't know want anybody. If you tell me anything, it's better than Curb Your Enthusiasm, Sopranos or The Wire. I don't like you is the greatest show of right there with the right Okay. Yeah. So when the person says that to me and I see my wife watching, then one day I just like, you know what, fuck it?

So I watched one episode now watched it myself. And if you're a person who performed in the House of Blues in Chicago recently, were young person who went to Sammy's and compete greenbrainy Green, you know, unless you went to the other one. I'm just I've been to my give me another one. They tore down Compretty Green. So when I used to go to complete Listen, I was com pretty Green one time and I pulled up in

Sammy's is a chicken spot? I say it on all Kelly Chip, Sorry, did Kelly I used when I'm in competely Green? You know, I hit Sammy's. So I went to Sammy's. I came police pulling the guns on me. The whole pride came out. I was like, that's normy put your fucking gun down. That's when I new Chicago is they came out like that, and I was like that, oh ship, but I still came it about week. Help me, let's make around this. Let me ask you this. Let

me ask you this. Being from Chicago. The problem that I think that happened in Chicago is they took the ogs away. When you got the Larry who was you got all these people who was gang you know, and they took them away. That means the youngest one wild as you think that's the Chicago's problem. I mean, I think that that culture or what we were talking about was probably like my generation was probably the last of it. And their kids, says younger than me, they don't even

know what that ship means. So ain't know O G. And ain't like you do. That's the problem. Um No, of course I think that that Joe was bugs all these different people that I like, I have O G. Jason, I got mad l A Reader's old G. I got mad executive. You know what I'm saying Like that, I'm not afraid to say, like these people no more than me, and like I look up to these people and they give me game. But I don't think that these things

out there ain't listening to none of that trip. So look, listen to the shot that ain't you ain't drinking that Columbian white yea, and Catherine, let's do it. You're gonna do one. Yeah, I'll do it, little water, but you know you gotta do it Columbian way. No, I don't like that. Let me get another cut. I ain't doing this. I ain't makeing with the rock. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. I'm just doing this too. Just do the just do

the one line. Trust. Yeah, that's why you gotta be a little crazy us Like, come on, it's a different it's a different thing. I see why you point. So when is the time we're gonna we're gonna get this shot going? But what is the time when you realize you said, you know what fund this reed and model? You said the line, are y'all really went for the line? I don't know what? So what was the moment where you like, I did this. I was an artist. I

did reality. But you know what, I'm gonna stick to my motherfucking guns and produce number one records for everybody. When was that moment? Was it like your finger pop somebody and it was a big Shane bounced back moment. It was. It was a lot of moments, but Jeremiah walked the hook. Yeah, it was a lot of moments, man Like it was. I already knew that niggas didn't want to funk with me on artist ship. Like but

and I command anything anything that watching this ship. When you realize that nigga don't funk with you on some artist ship, go ahead, transition ship, next thing. Maybe your next gift is gonna be don't be afraid, gonna way too fast down. Um, So you thought people didn't foc with you as an artist, Yeah, of course, Okay, explain

that I need expert. I mean they had great records, like think about it, like like to me, like in my history, I was like I was the first nigger down of the sing on some damn auto tune before Kanye did eight the Way some heartbreaks after Tea Pain or whatever, and yeah yeah tea Pain like after Tea Pain and ship like none of my all my records are as an artist are attached with a plaque to him.

I've never not dropped the song as an artist that ever had a plaque with it so, um, I don't know, like people just didn't want What was the moment where he was like, you know what, I'm gonna just stay and it just felt like people didn't want the product from me, and like me always being like I always looked at myself as like a Verry Gordy, Like I

always to myself like that's on some ball ship. So like, if you think about yeah, from the beginning, from the beginning, it was me, my partner, Billy j it was Yeah, it was it was like all these producers and everybody that made my initial song, they were all we always had a bose mentality. So it was never that and I always thought about it like yeo, I'm gonna beat the next the second coming up, these type of situations. So I was always saying, like a boss vide forever.

So you said you did you had something to do with the Fat Joe record, because now Fat Joe was my brother man, Like damn. I did three records on Fat Joe and or Cool and Trying Fat Joe. Which one Fat Joe? Um, yes, the one feature will face them and the crazy said and will I like like I like that well, so like and the crazy thing about that is that Joe was a cool and Dred studio and like I came, I pulled up. I was in a Rose Royce and I was with like four girls,

like we was lit. We had been day drinking. I fell in the studio with a that's the name of our record right now, day drinking. Yeah, okay, keep going, Jeremiah the hook. I agree. From there we was shi and Joe had that record cool and Dred, And then that did it and it was a different structure, and like he had wrapped one verse and like he had said that yes as something in the verse, I was like what basically Joe had had Like it was right now, it was cool and rad ship and like we was

in there and like I really went. I was like Joe had an engineer and all the type of I'm like you get up. I set my engineer down, and Joe allowed me to take his song and just basically like how you said for reality, this making into the hit that that yes as a faith that wasn't even a hook. That's something he said in the verse. I took that and made it the hook. Yes, I went and transferred at what he said in the hook, I went and chopped it up and made it into the

hook we need like young birds. That was our friends. Come on, brother, continue, sir, continue, sir. So I went chopped it up, made that the hook, and I was faded that night, like we had a like I was, I was. I was in my glory all my splet if you worked card to B as well, because you were a card to be and that one and we've collaped me and CARDI collapsed on some ship or whatever. It ain't came out though. Let's talk about this so

so much. Producing are you gonna yo? You stretch and yeah, but it was what what made you get in the bag, Like Afterwhids was like, Yo, you know what I presented my artistreet I jumped in a couple of movies, I did whatever, But you know what, I think I could present all the people with hits. It was the first one when he was like, yo, let me just make this man prove this where you gave a person a record. It was like, Yo, I want to prove that I'm

that guy. Damn. It was really a lot of like Naked manis was like a time for me to prove myself big for us. You gotta and I really wish about a lot of VAM. I did a lot of records on that Alpum. I wish that some of them would have been like singles or whatever, like the biggest ones or whatever. But if you got him, you just got through talk about queens and here real when I but um, I got a lot of north, a lot of records, Like what's the record that you produced? And

and it didn't come out? And you want to like fucking asshole, m hmm drop it probably my own because I'm doing a producer album. You see how I did the thought Box ship right, and I put like that was so crazy. Like I did a song on from my producer album called thought Box and it was me a Buggie Tiger to chains and then I went and then that didn't blow up like that ship. It kind

of it ain't do what it's supposed to do. So I was in Vegas at a writer's camp for um one of Chapel and like we was getting vaded, like we was recording in the Palms Crossed hold on. We was in Vegas. They all had a stand at the Palm's Hotel. So it was like me murder beas Chris Shawn, like the biggest Ya. This is the studio. Was in the hotel, guys if niggas don't know, so we was in there and we was getting lit and um, I came up with the idea. I never forget. I was

fucked up. I'm like, man, I'm gonna put all girls on that ship. But I'm not gonna go chase like the Cardi Nikki. I'm gonna go put all the girls that are really funk with on a record, and I put them all on the record. Show I got a shot, this is my shot. Put it on the record. He put the girls on the record, Let's go, and the song went gold. It's like a ladies night. It's like one of them was on the record, was on a lotto Chinese Kitty getting made Drezy and dream Dog. It's

called thought Box Shots. That's one of the biggest record for the same dollars. Is probably one of the hardest artists coming from New York City. I love her. I think she's amazing, but I respect your judgment. Okay, but holy minute at either go ahead and take another one, don't. I don't drink the line, don't do the line. Take a real shot. I ain't drinking there the line I was like this, I was, I was talking about crack interview earlier. No, no, take a shot of this. I'm

gonna be honest. I do like forty two. But Delon is very batter the way your faces. This one. We're gonna keep it hip, kind of nice. We're gonna keep you. Now. If it was Kasa Zoo, I will break the rules. But puff don't want he don't want the nineteen forty. We love, we got enough. I love Christian. I'm chessing. I don't know it was good. We're gonna stake. We're just take him over ball. This is what we're doing. This is what we do. And also shout out the

ViBe's house, because you know why. This is the house of vibes, just like seeing the hook for a supertuck again, this is I'm getting. I'll get vibe from leftover extacy from thirteen years ago. No, no, it's turquoise. He was my drug. I don't even like. I mean, I've been mad at you, first person to put him on the ex. Goddamnit be right. You might be right. Luis play the road like you all clean and squee I play and you don't. You don't fo with Champagne at all. This

You're just the hard court drinking. You just want to that's it. Yeah, I do with Champagne. It's about energy. It's about the situation. So if the situation proprile that sounds like a drug, did I go to? I gotta realize, come on to open book, your transparent, open book, transparency. No, all right, that's good. That makes me. She's that. Go be and get out Part two. You see how I'm flourishing.

Ask you y'all, holy we got weird. No, but do you think that's crazy that Kanye is going to march president? He ran, he's running, not gonna. I gotta be quiet. I want to hear answer first. That doesn't change the fact that he's But I don't know. I mean ship it's hard to say what she will and won't do when Donald Trump the president of our Contry's not gonna be on the ballot on every stage though, Yeah no, No, he's nothing that comes a lot of It's not hip hop.

He's not gonna be on the ballot. Be gonna bother for every state. Were hip a great story, You're gone? I would vote I will vote for Jack, where are you going with this? I honestly will vote for whole too, but at the same token, Man, I would rather vote for somebody that really didn't did this ship their whole life, like how we did music and like I don't really like it. I want somebody that's really about this ship, like the same way about the same way about making music,

the same way for about drink champs. We need somebody that's in office that wants to be in that vibe. Bro, look at your face, y'all sucking me up. Listen. Her and Biden better than Trump. Bro better, I believe, so, I believe you don't listen to walk I'm sorry, Walker, no disrespect to you, but he taxes. Yeah, I can't look at me. I'm looking like, walk up, don't get your sentence because he's sitting there like what Trump is he like? And I'm looking at like Walker, please, he's

got contact and I'm like, don't and said that. Yeah, He's not the only one. There's a lot of people that with Trump. I don't funk with Trump. I'm talking on the hip hop side of things. There's a lot of I mean, I funk with my people. Listen, I and I'm not co signing anything, but pay hit me out for one second. You're not. I ain't calling something. But prior to, like six months ago, a year ago, I had broke friends because I wanted to Why I'm taking you to dinner? Man? What the funk? I'm here

for a month. I'm here. Yeah, what we got with? Like you? I see your second spot yesterday. That's a sexy spot. Now let's go. I want to see the oysters. I want to see not they're okay. Borris him, him and him to get cocaine, cocaine and they go to a different type of ability cocaine. They cocaine fans. We don't don't let you go there. Yeah, I ate the whole oyster right on your TV show Sudden Yeah yeah yeah, showers of delicacy from what he thinks. That's the crunch

in the monk that you have. Yeah, Ariana grand Dad worked me. Uh two Chains. I did two Chains single with Ariana Grande. I was dead. She got a plaque attached to it and that studio. I ain't gonna lie to you. I wasn't you know in a session when she recorded that ship like I was know like her and too Shames had like a remember she had put out a song. I think she had put out a

song um ship using interpretation and to Shane ship. Yeah, and from there I guess instead of being like petty, they both saw it together as they came out, and then they did a swap and two. Shane got on her remix of that song, and then Ariana got on to Shange singer. That's all. That's all. I didn't think it was. I think it was even shrimp outline some ship last night. You know what I'm saying, Like you know, you know I got it too. You know I went hard in my life to you know what I'm saying.

But I'm gonna be honest. I trust you. I actually trust you because you know. Not only I trust you because I know you personally, but I know how much you up hip hop like a lot of people. That's that's that's the biggest concern for me. A lot of people think that you're just sampling records, but if you're sampling the record, that means you actually know what life. Yeah, I just know what I'm trying to say. So a lot of people give you slack for the same thing,

but I love the fact that that you hold that. Yeah, without didn't even puff, Like I never forget what like I were saying, we were doing this ship for Puff. I was doing money making Mitch with him, and I think he really, you know what I'm saying, won't be around like he was trying to figure out while I was around, Like what the you know what I'm saying like that flew me out shots and Neil. Neil put me in part of the camp getting with not understand

so um they we had big a crib. He like, he says, some crazy ship to me, come in you pretty motherfucker. I'm like, he feel shot down, and he like, if I could do such and such and such, I could bring you back and bring your career back. I promise you. I was like, this is what far was here making. I was like, word, but I can't say, you know what I'm saying the blanks. I can't feeling them blanks because he's different and you know him. And so I walk into it got a little crashy. That's real,

it really happens. But you're here, you, yeah, living your motherfucking life. The best one card. Yeah, I don't even know what kind of car that's under roaster. I don't know. I got like, what's so like one? She's Louise Papa cheese baby, So what the fund is that? Back then? Man, I heard him the Minican talking to my back, So I'm not gonna lie. Man, we've been talking ship. That's how time. I feel like you want to keep going. I think we can. We can wrap it up. We

can wrap it up. How long he's been here recording y'all records? On huh, y'all record a hit? So I want to record a hit because I feel like record a hit right now. He's Cap, He's Cap. My brother just back. It's Drake and young. He's trying, He's trying. He wanted to get in and I'm more with that hit me and said, can we do the studio first and AD go to Drink Champs. I'm like, nigga, you know student sober. I'm a sober. Let's do that. Let's

do it's a part of all. Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs hosted by Yours Truly, d J E F and n O R E. Please make sure to follow us on all our socials. Let's at Drink Champs across all platforms at the Real Noriegan i g at Noriega on Twitter, mine is at Who's Crazy on I g at d j e Fn on Twitter, and most importantly, stay up to date with the latest releases, news and merch by going to drink Champs dot com.

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