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Episode 233 w/ Mic Geronimo, Royal Flush & Capone

Oct 23, 20203 hr 49 min
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N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. On today’s episode, The Champs chop it up with the legendary Mic Geronimo.

Being the first hip-hop artist signed to TVT/Blunt Recordings, Mic Geronimo released his classic debut album “The Natural” which featured his friend and legendary recording artist Royal Flush and production by Irv Gotti, Buckwild and more.

On this episode, Mic Geronimo discusses the good and bad side of the music industry and working with legends like JAY Z, DMX, Diddy, Ja Rule & The Lox. Mic Geronimo shares incredible stories about 2Pac and how he built a close friendship with him.

DC Alumni Royal Flush & Capone also join the conversation. This episode of Drink Champs is a special one, as it features three guests who are part of a legacy that helped start an underground movement in hip-hop. This movement would eventually move hip-hop in a certain direction and never looked back.

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And it's Drink Chans motherfucking podcast. He's a legendary Queen's rapper, He's Segre It's your boy in No R He's a Miami hip hop pioneer. Up is d j e FN. Together they drinking up with some of the biggest players, I mean, in the most professional, unprofessional podcast and yet number one source for drunk fast drink chess, motherfucking for every day is New Year's z Just time for drink Chance, Trink up, motherfuck motherfuck would it could be hoping He's

put the super This is your boy? Oh what up is d J e F This militated crazy more radio drink Chance makes up right now when it comes to legends, not only a legends, but the Queen's legend. When it comes to people that have was the bar Lord's lyrical Lord, you know what I'm saying, really had the game. His first album really changed everything in Queen's You know what I'm saying, laid the legacy, laid the foundation for those that's coming from Flushing after him. You understand what I'm saying.

People have to show that respect and do that. The man has worked with, he's grew up with large professor. He has worked with the likes of Puff Daddy's Hitman, produced his Whole Ship Earth Gotti, and he had jay Z when jay Z was jay Z and job before he owned this Champagne goddamnit like that. In case you

don't know octok about he told about legendary extraordinary Mike. Now, Mike, you got one of like the one of the most unanswered stories in hip hop, right because when I look, I looked as a lot of the interviews, you know, go back and do the research, and it was like back then, you didn't really talk too much, you know. Why is that? I think some of it, bro is just just my nature. Like I've never been a boisterous personality. I was never that. Like I was just always yo,

Mike is here, you know. He was with anybody, smoking, drinking in and cut you know, and and a lot. I think a lot of that played a big part as to why I guess I was, for lack of a better term, reserved and quiet, and I could see how it could kind of you know, I looked timid, you know, um And then the other side of it was just I don't know, maybe it was my dad, like from an early age. She's my dad was always like listen where you could show people way better than

you could tell me, you know. And so even when things would arise that I felt maybe I should say something, I just wouldn't then like I think x x S best for me. He's like, yo, you care too much about everything. He said, you care to you care too So he'd be like, you know, you care too much about everything. And what I mean by that is I always take every single soul in the consideration with what's said, what's not said, Howard said, when it should be said.

There's a time place for everything. That's just how I came on, you know. So I think it's a combination of the two. And I'm a very you know, you get older, you realize so much more about yourself that you never allowed yourself to see. So I've come to church. Don't like you're just a private personality, right like you know, And I'm always you know, around people and around folk and around you know, whatever we're doing. But just by nature,

that's just me. Now. The first album it was on blunt TVT yeah okay, and then the second album it was like it was what was the Hollywood label? What was it Blunt now because it was you I dropped the Blunt and it was tv T. You know, they had going through so much of for all in tests of purposes, it was still t v T S Blunt recordings. Blunt was like the hotter label. So that's where they

went with. Blunt was actually supposed to be a division, and it was what they were trying to make the hip her division, right, you know TV because tv T was like they had and shout out Trunk Result and Valley Killer Oller a little bit. He was saw a little t v T two and they had so much of a smorgas bug in the sense of artists, but they were mainly known for TV tunes. Like you just said, Gottlieb had purchased everything from the jets and which is

which it was. It was amazing, Like once I got older and more asserted and I realized the magnitude of what that one deal did for him as an owner, a proprietor a distributor. I think it was an ingenious thing to do at the time. And then so t v T decided they were going to get in a hip hop and Blunt was supposed to be the flagship division of overall for the first album a TV and

Blunt right. They did it had to because the Natural was actually the first album TV T Blunt Ever rap Wise Ever did that added more person too because I was like the first hip hop artists they had ever side, which was why Gaudy at the time was like, listen, this is the best home for us because you the first artist on a brand new label that wants to be involved in Thank you so much people. I never never had this quick. I say this because I'm so

happy to bro. I'm so happy for You'll get back to that like I would saying going back to it or I had a lot of a lot on me because I was the first audist on a brand new label and they were independent, but they had a shipload of but with the Bryant these days. Yeah, b came in in between my first and my second album, and so Flush I think was his whole on first hid like just be at the helm his audience when I when he came I was the first one the first project.

He actually was like okay, I'm here. This is the first project he was working on. And then from there like they shout out the LEAs there's more brother for life. We went through so much, Bro, who Brian Lee shout out. At least we went through so much up down, high low, you know, dangerous ships, sor and ship your got he was signed a tv T two. You're not even around that long? Yeah, how do you want better? Steve Gottlieb had the opportunity at one time to sign Z jay

Z not only them too. He could have signed DMX, he could have signed the Dog count Wow, and he could have signed Eminem because all of those people had somehow, some way made their way up to that office and on each of them. For the life of me, I don't know why he declined. How did you get hooked up with Steve? Got? Okay? Like Bro? In the beginning, Bro, I didn't. All I knew was I met her, UM got a talent show talent. I heard that. You really

didn't even rhyme, they said at that time. No, Bro, the way I started like I started as a DJ DJ and I got there because of going a large crib every day. Like you said, I grew up with large, like large literally was the first person. You're going too far now, so large actually interacting at that crib that made me get technique, you know. So every day I was going to Hot Wats getting records, twelve inches, all that ship. And that was just the coaching back then.

How you go transition from DJ and to art and your first record that you ever did was your demo, and that demo happened to be your single, and that single happened to be your first hit record. That was the first time never in my life recorded a record before Shi. With matter of fact, when I was recording Shi where the Nigger Got, he stopped the ship halfway between and he was like, Yo, you ain't never did this ship before. And I was like nah, and he's like you sure, and I was like nah, He's like

you're comfortable. I said, yeah. He just did the ill maniacal I know you heard that laugh laugh like like like that. And then he was just like, yo, keep going, nigked. And I didn't even have the hook, bro because I was so used to like me and Fluss just being anywhere anytime, spitting, so I didn't really I didn't even know song structure. I didn't know six teen bars. I didn't know that the hook comes in here. I didn't know, yo, whatever your hook is, that's the topic of this. So

I was just nigga. I was just a calico. You just held it down. I'm gonna telling something as a queen's nigger. Right when I seen the video, I thought you from Jamaica. But listening, I'm gonna tell you what it is, everybody and queen because he went to basically right, and I looked the record video this time I did see Casino Boulevards. We was in first in front of

in front of the mall. Who over my head as a as a young nigga queens but back there basically in forty was like so much more known at the time, everyone and everyone who basically in forty claimed he was like he from How How was that? How was that? Like? I mean, on a personal side, my cousin lived in the South Side. He lived in Brittime. My cousin red shout out my cousin R. E. B. So I would be a red crib every day then, you know, if I wasn't a and call out of cold and I

would go to South Side. So I knew the South South. Plus for when I was a kid, we lived on front Plate, you know what I mean. So I did a lot of moving around as it could, Like you said, keep everything in the lane, You'll get to it. So I knew Niggs from south Side, and you know, I'll be honest, I was I was outside, bro, you know what I mean. I was outside. I was outside, So I knew older dudes from that. But did you ever get slapped from Flushing? Because like a lot of people

did think that, you know what it was. They would be like I would at the most I would get like yo, So you don't rep the block. I don't like crazy Clear Prodigy. Everyone knows deep down inside with you know, rest in peace and God. But everybody knows Pete was never from the bridge and it was like queens you definitely it was like a secret, you know

what I'm saying. So when we see that first ridden with you, a lot of people thought that that was the move that you were making, Like Clear, this was you said ship like I'd be honest, because probably talking with the neighborhood that was more known, you know what I'm saying. So it looked like and it looked like you know, because this would have looked like it looked like it would be nas direct competition, you know what I'm saying. You know and that I'm just saying, like,

maybe it was people systastically putting this together. Maybe this is something that it just looked. It was like, yeah, but interesting and actually was one of the first people that made me believe that just well, I was gonna do something. Wait a minute, okay, talk about that. I went to Large Crib maybe a week after we recorded Ship with and we also did a B side called Him and Heads, and we sample Nas. We sampled the fucking man. He said some something ship. He said, Well,

he's like, I'm the fucking man. I'm stopping for a second, because you don't have a record together, right, No, See this is a crazy thing when you use it him and you seem me. He just said, like him and Nas not having a record together, him and Big L not having a record together, you think there was no relationship there, because sometimes the record does mark our history. But you got a record with Jack, you know what I'm saying. But I can see what you're saying. I'm sorry, No,

it's cool. No, so um, I'm exampled playing him Him and Heads and it was really sad. Yeah, Like but first I played him the B side and it was just me and him and law Man and Peter was in the club and I played the ship and then I played them ships with and they got mad quiet and I'm not gonna live. When they got quiet, I kind of was like, oh, like because I can hear cricket, what's up? And then they go when you say they, who is there? Paul? You said, Paul, you don't know,

We're just crazy. That's about the lodging. Naz is the only one in the in the credit and first NAS was like, yo, that first ship you played where you like saying ple my serings like, now, I'm gonna be honest, I don't really like that. He's like, put your that's just real ship. You know you should be on the radio tomorrow. And when he said that, I was kind of like like I kind of I was like, whoa And you gotta understand just like I was talking, I

was a DJ. So the whole rap ship to me, I think I have to actually your first two records it was two and then Large did the gettin that. I think I think that's you. I think that's you. I think that's you. Might I think that's you. Mightn't know not yet, but I had the privilege of yeah, like he was already wasn't because he had done the joints to live at the barbecue. And at that point when when he was like around our neighborhood, I want to say, he was just dealing on with it. I

think he was dealing with searching him. Yeah, And I think that was like a little bit before Almatic came out and she is real is right around that time and can check that amatic. I want to. I want to because I wanted to say something. And it's crazy because, like I said, I never bros, just something I was doing, and to be honest, I was just like like people say, why did you do? Just real? And I'll be like at that time, running around not being certain and you

know I was back then like we got friends. That's not hit right, you know from that time, and I just looked at it like alright, well if I do this, at least I won't just be real right there right there is real and then Allmatic is ninety two or what saying? And then remember these singles are being dropped for DJ's. I want to ask you something, what's up? I want to let you fact check it? Okay, yeah see you see bro, so let me answer this question did you drop? Because I was in jail, so obviously

I didn't. I didn't um because I remember the day I met you. Yeah to, So so this is what we don't listen what I don't know did you actually drop? Because I first seen the video it was just the video. I never had heard the record, but I was in bo Keepsie, New York day playing you know everything. So this is a question I don't know the answer to. So did you ever drop the record? First? And did in the video? It was like how Beyonce is doing now?

The video and the record say. What happened was IRV had decided like we recorded and I think he was getting a response from, you know, like people in the game, and at that time we was going to the labels simultaneously. And I remember him one night being like, Yo, man, ship, ain't you that I'm pressing it? Shut up on my own. We're gonna press this ship up and just shoot of it. And I remember being like how and he was like, I don't know, but we're gonna figure that out. Well,

that wasn't Hype who shot that video? Right? Yeah? It was that was Hype over that he said, you stay here he said, I don't shot up Williams shot that ship on a camera that was no bigger than this box. So in a lot of ways, and I'm saying this for you had something to do with the beginning of the height and the beginning of the Earth. I was supposed to point some a yeah, I'm oh, yeah, let's

do it. Let's do so you know what it was just I don't know, Bro, I guess it was just what it was supposed to be because there was all these first things happening but in conjunction with each other, and and it wasn't this that it was happening so fast. What kind of shot to one? What you're doing, I'll do something Colotto, white grape. I told you you shoot out,

grab something. We don't get no watermelonlon no. So I like I was saying, it was just broad because it was all these things happening, and it was happening so fast, Bro, just so fast. And it was happening so fast that when he pressed this real like there's an original twelve inch that's a black laby with a like silver my Geronimo heading on it with you, that's the ships Earth press. And after he pressed him Yeah. We would go everywhere. Bro.

We went to any club that any DJ was at at that time, and either he would give him the record or he would send me. Like I remember giving it to Flex in the Palladium and I was we just have to give your record to a DJ email not he's a DJ too, so he couldn't already knew what you was crazy. I didn't look at it like I think it was one of them things like sometimes being oblivious to something is the best thing in the world because you're just take the shot and explain that,

like sal the motherfucker. We're gonna want a lady that that's good, that it's good, cool, We got that's good, Get great? So where was we? Um? So? I remember like I wasn't preparing myself before I would walk up on anybody. I wasn't like, let me give him my sales pitch, none of that ship. I'll just go up to the DJ and I'd be like, Yo, my name is Mike. You're scared to give tupacket CD. No, I wasn't scared right kind of studies right, and that scenario

earth thrust me into it. We was a freak nick to go back with I said the flext with your my name is Mike Geronimo. I did this record. If you like it, all I ask is you prompet if you don't break this ship over your knee and you'll never hear for me again. Better than he. And now that I think about it, when I'm older, I'm like that, Well, I was kind of ballsy for you to do it a shot and you said it's a tax. Yeah, the same thing, because you know what it is. You're giving

me an option not to like you that did. Yeah, I don't think so. Because DJ, I respect the way he's coming. I think he's right. And I'm gonna tell you. Let me just take something. As a hustler, I don't give you give you said sound option? Be it sound? How many DJ used to cocky ass artists keep coming up to you like this is the best in the world. It's like, yeah, I'm talking about Tupac. If you give me an alternative, You're come up to me and you

give me your alternative. I'm always picked the alternative because it's like, all right, cool, you doubt yourself to a certain stand towel park that I didn't say that. I know that stuff stand. I don't remember that freaking hood okay. And when we was in the event and said, yo, there's Park right there in front of the hotel and then Nyga Park was smoking, you know the he's smoking a blunt, chowing and I'm like, no, I'm not going over there. Then they can just smoking. I'm my brother

and this dude, what are you doing? And he's like, they could go give him me a CD. So now since I see that the tone, you know, what should I was the wait holding broca, So I was like wait. So I was like, I fucking so I jump out to the vin and I take the sticker because at the time we had these little red stickers with Mike Geranim. I'll take the sticker, I take the c D. And

I walked right up in a nigga pocket. He was all into his blunt and I was like, yo, bro I don't want to bother you, you know, but my name is Mike Geronimo. I spent whatever it was I said, and I was like, here's my CD. And I was like if you like it, Repper, if you don't like it, break it over your knee. But he didn't trip. And it was crazy because he looked at the c D

and then he took the blunt. He was like and he looked at me and he's like, what you said, Mike Geronimo And I was like yeah, and he was like all right, and I walked away. Take a shot to Mike, motherfucker gerontootle, And I didn't know whether he was gonna play that shut or not. Bro. Next time you've seen him was in the tunnel. Yeah, the first time that we people have you held them down right. People gotta understand, I'm not sure you got to finish it over here. This is not I'll see what are

you on this? I don't worry I'm gonna hit because I see you already. Boom. So we was in the tunnel, and people got to understand the umbrella. I was under to put it that way, but I know niggas know what I'm talking about. So it was certain folks connected to certain folks, um, and we was all at the tunnel, right. So I remember shout out DJ and shout out stretch and and bags rest in peace. Bags. Yeah, um, shout

about bags, shout out. These are the people that was in So you know he's in the tunnel, mind you. I remember going going up tune. But I was like, I was not. I'll be honest, I wasn't a fan

of his music. I wasn't say you didn't like him, Like yeah, putting in the context of which Tupac the first one is the holiday for you're hearing me Tupac, I'm assuming right, So all of that, it wasn't into Brenda Got a Baby was like the only record that I was like, yere that nigga from the West Coast who says that Brenda ship, that ship is that's the first one. You mean right, that's same thing too. Now I'm meeting on death row Tupodcat, is it You're on

the cusp of becoming death row? I want to see he's against the world. He definitely wasn't right, So it was me against the world. All the old gen niggers is discussing what they discussed. We're not playing on a tons of to that. It's me web Pop, my brother, and we're the ones that decide to break away from that main ball. You know, it was nigga you came in and there was the first ball here and the Queen's niggas would be on this. Uh, the b K niggas would be on this side against the wall. Then

you walked forward the end of the tunnel. So they was there talking whatever they were talking about. But the nigga pak wanted to walk around. So me, my brother and Red we all broke off and started walking. So um whatever the year. The tunnel was like like all roles lead here, So we started walking towards like that

where you know when you break off. In the center there's the dance floor, but on the right there was like a hallway with like little mirrors and you could like put your weed there, rolling whatever, and that led to the backstage if you walk this whole way. So first we started walking and he pulls the weed out and he's the point. He's on point Pop right, he's in front of all, but he's not with y'all. Yeah, he was like, y'all want to walk around? So I told b J and Um I was like, yeah, we'll

walk around because we wanted the smoke we used. The young nigga is the smoke weed all day. And you're telling me b J and guys, this is true. They actually met post they knew Yeah, I knew pop because of b J and because of Earth and Earth Kinnor is funny because Erv always will talk to me about pop and doing the record with M and I was in heavy opposition to it because I was like, I'm not working with anyone I fucked with on Natural. That's not just for the sake of fucking want you to

make a song. These are my friends, these are this is my family. It feels so good now, bro to look back at that album and be like, yo, this's this is my family. Leave. Yeah, even even the second even vent to the second one. He even working with and hit Man and we're gonna get to that wee so you're gonna take another route. So we're walking and a nigga bumped this nigger. The nigger had a yellow he's room. Now at that point, I couldn't rightfully say it's malicious or it had an intent to it. All

you could say was somebody's walking forward. You walk in this way, boom, you collide the weeds on the foot. So the nigga bumped him, but I didn't see the bump. I've just seen his face, right. So he does this ship so I was just like or some quick shot. I was like, yo, don't don't truck we all right, like, yo, just keep going. We all right, like we want to go this way, bro, don't worry about whatever. So he takes a couple of steps for a little and another

nigga bumps him. But now we're on that always. And I've seen this one and I swear on God bro on my kids. I never forget the look on his face because it was the first time that I said to myself, it must be a nightmare for somebody that I have to consistently be persecuted about. Because he had this look on his face that was like, yeah, I'm so tired of this ship, and it didn't look like had no security. But when I seen I'm not gonna say it, but the ogs we was with the affiliation

you feel me, I'm holding that. You know this, man, I'm not gonna let we all hear the fault. Nigga, you feel me? So I saw this whole interaction and I never forget his face, and he just looked dreamed. Bro. He just looked not like I can't do this and I won't win. He just looked like why do I have to keep doing this? And when I seen it, I was infuriating, like point for him and at that, and it was so strange because anything that I may

have felt prior to that evaporated. And as soon as I saw it, I immediately grabbed him by his shoulder. I said, Yo, get behind me, and my brother shout out my brother cab. My brother was like, Yo, we got He's like, get between me, and like that's Pop telling us he U right now. You heard that, So you don't understand. I love that nigga, my nigga more now, more than ever. You donna understand. I'm gonna get to a nervous story. So I just tell him. I'm like, yo,

get behind me, Just get behind me. So now right, So now I'm here, pox behind me, My brothers behind him, is behind my brother, and we keep walking or where we're gonna go. I see him, they get fit and they come up again. Are these related events or just people just the same? I didn't know whether they all knew each other or whether they we're just taking advantage of a moment. But when I saw to sit right when I saw the second bar, I was like, nigga, all bets is or so now is a third nigga.

Light skin. They can never forget light skinning. They get taller than me, Like curly ass head worked walking towards me, and I could just see the ship in his face. I could smell it on some balls. On some balls, nigga, I had a pen in my pocket. Bro the bullpoint my pocket, I swear, asked where I'm I grabbed the pen in my pocket, and before the nigga gets to us, I stick my arm out. I was like, I'm gonna tell you right now. The next nigger that bumps this nigger,

I'm fucking everyone up in this club, period. And I know what you're doing. I'll get out. You won't. I'm gonna be okay, and more ways than one, you're gonna learn a valuable lessing. That that was serious. And the nigga stopped, and the nigga said the most ignorant ship I've heard. The nigger was like, come on, Mike, the West Coast niggas. I said, what the fund is this nigger ever done to you? You don't even know this nicky wow, what is this man ever done to you?

The next nigger that bumps this nigger, I will fuck this entire club now. And that was it. Fire And I didn't see what it is why I shoot, I didn't see him for a minute after that, right, it's not like yo. And then and then they said that she was going to be the first East Coast death row east you know, I know my ship to be a sex that had to funk you up because they're not not listening. So that means she made a relationship

with Pop Pop. He was on to come up, but he was still not because when he went to death row, so that means he must have got a death row and then held that. You know, rot fat and I would always at but I think Tretch too had a little bit to do with it. Shout out to Tretch from Norty by nature. He's just standing there. You got to drink that this is this isn't so great. I watched them the pit Bull episode Go Home and one Piece, so so you tunnel incident, right, and I don't hear

from him. You don't hear now other niggas that. Let's be real about it, bro, Some niggas knowing where they are at what space, at what time. You know where you are, you know what your opportunities are in front of you. Again, I'm gonna reiterate I wasn't looking for none of this ship bro. So it's not like I seized the opportunity and said, yeah, I'm gonna I'm plugged with this nigger. Let me stay in contact. So down

the road and done that. But IRV would always come back to me, and then Nickels comes into play too. Shout out to Nickels. Um. IRV would always come back to me and be like, Yo, the nikkel Pox said, tell you what's up. He's like right, He's like yo, he asked how you're doing us, and I would be like wow, really like yo, that's my nigge. Tell him I'm okay, man, tell him I'm cool. Still death still

pre death, still pre death rows. But he would always be like, yo, you're gonna do a song with park Ning And I would always still be But at that after that experience, I was like, I would totally do it, but it's still not nothing. I'm pressing if he comes to me and he says this is what he feels in he wants to do it, yeah, because now that's nigger to me. I feel a bond because of that incident, and I think the personal moment where I knew like

I could say all right, this is my friend. There was a party at the Palladium and there's nothing on. Biggie was at. I think Big was there, okay, but I can't rightfully. I know Jermaine do Pre with the right shout out Jim because Jamine du Pre and the brat pulled me on the stage. This was another shot to that's that's that's in the game. I know, you know that, like it was the first industry party I

had ever industry event, Rappers Palladiums. Yeah, so I'll walk in and again the timid ship, the quiet mic shift, but the first nigger that greeted me was method man, and I'm not gonna lie. I was enamored when I walked in because Big work, Like we don't know what that means. Sorry, you obviously zoned out, okay from being like oh ship, that's the m E T H O dmon and after show. So this is when IRV is making me like, you know that part of this ship

is being a politician. So you gotta go shake hands and kids babies and rescue people from fires. You know, you got a certain exactly in a figurative manner. So I'm just like bugging out because this is all the people I watched on video music box when I come home. Remember you're training, thought, but let's finish this shot. No, no, that's that's the ace's shot. All right, let's do that. So I look, all right another so um so I

walking and then I see Google Google, right. But I knew gurgle from large crib because a lot of people would come over the large crib I was using, and I knew them from just being at his crib and they would just walk right in. So gurgle. I knew rest in peace, rest team. But you't. You ain't for parole or that like that on parole or noting like that. Right, No, no, you're small. You want a small as This is funny. This is this is the moon Rock you got moon

rocking there. This is motherfucking uh smooth Champs moon Rocks Rock. Hold up, blazy's blazy bullshit. It's a blazy suit. Let me see. It's just that's my goal to that's that's that's gonna need to Thursday. Let's come on, le forget it. I'm not okay. So I see these people and I'm like starstruck, right, and then I did, and then I kind of get like, but what do I say? How do I act with it? And I guess like google Master saw that and he was just like, what's up,

my don't worry about Let's come on, let's drink. Let's have a toad. He's a great dude, man, you know so much, but he's a drink champs. Everything with Google, see I know, you know, everything with Google would be let's have a took everything. Let me be too much busy. So so made me feel good like he gave me death. And I'm like, oh wow, like my head is spinning, you like Alice in Wonderland, bro. But well that's what I'm saying that it's like that scene in Good Fellas

when they got married. And this is pt this is cousin Paulie, this is everybody right, and you you just spinning, head spinning. And Park was there and the ill ship was the nigger came right up to me and he just grabbed me. See the big Homie was there too. Shout out Prime, I love you, I love you prop That's another thing. So Preme was there too, so we all came with Prime. Shout out Blackie, Blackie. Just rest in peace, because black just yeah, black shout out P two.

But we're gonna go to so you know, I'm with them, and you know my personality, like I said, I'm quiet. I'm just trying to figure out my direction. Absorbed all. And the minute that I felt better was when Park came out and I think it was just smiling and then they could just grabbed me and he's like, yo, baby, bro, why you look so nervous? And I was like I look nervous and he's like, yoll stop man. And he came home and yeah, he was I don't know if

he signed it death. I can't rightfully recall who he was with, but oh, I know he grabbed me. He's like, why you look so nervous? And I was just like, do I look nervous and he was like nigga, yeah yeah, and he was like you're loosen up man. He's like, yeah, we're gonna have fun tonight, Mikey. And he just grabbed

me and he's like come on. He took me to like there was some area where we was all setting, like prim was head and with Blackie and they was with other official niggas and when we're here and and then at one point in the night I remember signed happen on stage and Jermaine Duprey just told me yo, Mike Generald and he just grabbed at me and pulled me on the stage and again the Alison Wonderland this is all just pay the free naked like. I'm like, yeah,

I'm from Queen's Brow. I'm just from the And I remember at one point I met a girl you used to knocking a lot of things down back in the day. Stop, don't stop. You don't know what women were fourth like keep up, boom, so dad check and I was like like this was like my first, you know. And then they have the poem fact. So I go to pocket and I'm like, yo, you gotta pen brow, Like I just met this crazy you know, need a pen real quick. And then nigger start laughing so hard at me. Bro.

He's like, I don't know a pen back in the day, right, Why I'm stay right. They just make sure that they don't difference. So this time imparts this time so fucking um. He just started laughing. He's like, Nicky, you don't need no pen. Let's do what I do. That's exactly what he said. He's like, nig you just do what I do. He's like, you don't need no tramlike And that was the minute I started with myself. Papa's knocking down a

lot of things. He'd been what you know, was crazy, bro, I didn't that didn't come into play with me like I will say with me, it's funny. My wife's cousin says the best. He's like, yo, he started slow, but once the motor gets gunn in, he's he's my hunter. So none of these things are am I saying or

taking into mind my frame of thought. I just know that at that point in time, I was like, all right, this is my man, this is my friend's looking for He's trying to tell me to youll, Mike, enjoy your life. You don't understand where you landed. And then when he could as I'm sorry to Swiss Gears, but then we come at you for a death row East. At this time, this is your third album already, right, this was I think I was just no. I was actually beginning to

work on the second album. The second albums just had to be weird. Then it was very weird. It was very uncomfortable. The second album is like bad Boy. You can hit pop when you are almost and it was so bro and you're telling me so so he so you think that he was giving you. I'm gonna drop a story with you that I've never publicly told. There was a club called Episodes. I think, yeah, and I remember it is me and reb I remember Clarke Kemp being in there. I remember all the junior Mafia Niggers

was there. At some point it got you know, I go, it's too hot and too smoky in his venue. I need to walk outside for earl right, head right. So web is like, yo, can I smoke a cigarette of heades everything else? Cigarettes? You know? Three years clean? How did you do it? I started smoking CBD DI did you still? Because here it's a very well go right back to the web story. All right, let's go if you can give me advice with that. Oh that's easy, it's very easy. What you do it's very not easy.

Let me just stop that right for a real smoke. I spoke us as a leap, okay, So this is how you do it. You spoke we yea, I spoke we all day right. So at the time end, only time I smoke a bob has to calm my high down almost that's the only time, the only person in the world one. Let me tell you, yeah a little look. Let me tell you here that so really, what I was smoking a cigarette was just to bread pull my high down. It was so I don't know what you

feel like, I'm on Wridling, you don't know. So what happened was one day I go to my people, big up to Eli Loreal Farms, back to Loyal Farms in l a and he says, look at this and he just gives me a pack of Louis. Looks like cigarettes, but it's CBD. Okay. So the thing is I failed because I kept end up smoke vapor. You know, vapor. Vapor is never gonnait fulfill. It's a cigarette guy, because

oh my god, so CBD and so CBD. When I did the CBD, I would subconsciously look at it and say, this is a cigarette, and it would give me the same thing as a cigarette, cause a cigarette doesn't make me high. Cigarette calls me the call. That's what CBD is. You know what I'm saying. How many people don't. Oh, that's what I'm saying. That's why I got my CBD. Bobi's coming out. You know what I'm saying it's called coming out. No, I ain't gonna lie. I try to

make money over this. This is a really I really sat down with my friends the other day and I thought about my flight schedule. I really couldn't even take an hour of flight. Obviouly, I couldn't take a five hour fly because I needed a bowbie, so most I could do with two and a half hours. I couldn't even fly to l a straight still doing to flying is for you. I had to take with no cigaretteste Land and it couldn't. I couldn't know. I had to

put the pressure on my body chemically. My body was like, Yo, if we don't get a cigarette right now, we're gonna punch a hole in this fucking cockpit Like that. I'm not even gonna lie. It's the worst thing I do as a as an individual that I want to get rid of. So figure to get you. Yes, I got you. We're gonna get you on the a lot little well fall do it you? So? I got one little questions and then we're gonna bring in the honorable royal flood. Yes, sir,

so you were large professor neighbor. Yeah, what how does this work. It's crazy because we all go up and call all so Large was really you know how you got that one person with like your mom on some real ship from hour every mom would be like who you outside with? And you give her the right? If I would call the pool right okay? So if I so we would call like I would be like mom outside and Jay Raff from Los Points shout out ja

raf JJ. If I said to my mama, I'm with j J and Paul, my mama would be like, okay, you could stay in the park till seven eight o'clock to the sun go down, right to the sun go down. So that was literally him and Vein Savender who's naas on Collins brother? Oh wow? So PAULI, I mean Lodge and then were the first person people I literally knew. And Jay Raff that my mom's would be like, okay, you could say outside, I'm playing the fall like literally, so lot Professor. Was he the one who put the

hip hop in your brain? I think, but I don't thinking and intend. I don't think he intentionally that. What I think Large new and what I think Van definitely knew was this ship is for him, but he doesn't know I gotta understand, bro, I was kind of like a widow growing up. I could admit that because I was in there so many things that the hood didn't funk with, Like I freestyled and rode vert on Harrow Bite, I wore like Vision Street war Van, I had a right I had. I had a Santa Cluz slash his

skateboard with right. But niggas would tease me to know I was just a widow. I was just really is the one that really brought k started the skate would be cool and hip hop and Wayne listen for We're all started it. But I think our future solidified it. He kind of did. Don't get us because they're not a baby. This is kicking, push thinking, kicking. But yeah, look at the whole our future crews kicking points riding a skateboard did. Lupey was accepted riding the skateboarding our

future officially stamped. But like a legit skater skame and he's such a sk sk like our future of those guys skate skate like day legit man. I'm saying from a scanner perspective. You know, scared skner scary too, Mr. I just tell you right, now. Morgans is my favorite spin all time. Top on Top. Let's stay where here we only to magazine, transmit magazine. I'm gonna look at this. He's really little skate Let's take a right now. How many people used to skate? Yeah, I heard it, he said, ptar.

How many people you know he used to skate? How many streetwear? Bo I used to ride birth all day every day. Ron Wilkinson was the first person that inspired me look family anywhere. I was a widow by hood, standing my mother. I looked at Corona and the hearse and Nigga's just like, you're a fucking widow while you're coming out here with a skateboard, a fucking a harrow

brike Envision Street. I got te Bro. So then when I grew up and I got into this ship, it was more unorthodox to me because I was like, you're the same niggas that was fucking persecuting me. Now all of a sudden, I'm cool because it's ship real man, And and and I'm I'm gonna be honest about It's funny how life works. Because it's funny. How that became my staples my staples somehow, some way, inadvertently became just be you because everybody else is taken. Mm hmmm, oh yeah,

let make noise of that. Come on, plus, let's go I don't minister, was that, Mike, don't take a pure? But you get over the whole thing that I talked about before the y'all got into the cigarette joint. Okay, yeah, all right, let's bring it back to that. Let's bring it back to that. That's crazy. What they flush in the bell the bag? Yes, something from Steve. I'm having a good Yeah, that's what I like that. We all right, yo, yo, yo yo. I don't want to sign your whole life

away with it from we took a break. Now we took a break. Yeah, but we frobably tell you what we got called tiff too. Oh solace my family? Yo? What that's crazy for you? Shot? Yes, sir, give me what do you want to want? Do you got to safe? Listen? Yes, a spect I don't want to try something that you know people are certain people are watching. If you took a do safe shot, It's okay. If you want to be different, it's all right. But if you want to

I'll always watching. It's okay to just started sucking with Do say this ship, but I'm not a man. You don't know Mr Hennessey you know? Mr Do said, oh sure I know him. No, I'm saying you don't know him personally. We know Mr and he's watching us and listen to who No, I'm mother Jay tone. Then why guess my ship ain't on there? So body got bro? Bro, it's big bro got you. Yeah, but we have if you're back here, there's no us. No, I'm like inch

or whatever. It's sure you don't want to get paper man saboard saying, all right, so we're gonna give you a shot. Let's sick. I'm gonna finish the Hey, what are you doing? Right? Are you giving? You're gonna do to do? Saying it's all right, that's what I'm talking about. Are you we're doing the Doe show? Yeah, you know you know he half I need something Brown Queen rich niggas love Brown getting away. We gotta legend from Queen coming up soon right, yeah, one minute, yeah, it will

be yeah, he said, all shot like both things. All right, let's we're doing shots too. But I didn't shot away and keep me on. Nobody wants Mama want to what you want to you don't want to sign about one's pip ships to we're talking about pip because I saw that my shot to take them about you know what, because I don't all right, I'm great, boss, did you take your shots to get let you But but it's an easy drink shout great, I don't wait, great, but

I don't want mama wanna what you do. It's like the only let the madness from t V T and like he helped me not getting the madness? Are you ready to bless? We told them to. We told them to fucking flushing right now? We got damn god, damn what's that? See you go? That's the plan everything? Hood hood shout out? Not so I thought it would so. Yeah, it was so flushed. A shot after log the fessor Mike Geronimo had to the dress up. My Geronimo had flushing. And I want to ask you the same question I

asked him earlier his first video. It's like the break artists from Flushing right but a lot of people thought he was from Jamaica because of that. Did you receive that same type of slack or no? I knew him from from the neighborhood. I know him from Carl I rest in peace, my man Jamal, my cousin San They nswer to the softball thing and ship so baseball baseball that literally literal league, Thank you. I knew of him from being in the neighborhood or whatever. I've seen the video.

I definitely seeking from Jamaica. But then he came around the way and he was shooting a video by by Mars and it was my neighborhood. So I was like, I gotta get in it. So let me kid rolling the dice. So I got in it. That's the B side video when you did see Casino. Yeah, that was me out through the dice. And so that's that's how you know. Me and him linked up like that real type.

And then one time I went to go to a show when he did a show and Urban Him Club was the Nelton part of from pot E didn't come nobody nobody that he met with K but the label came like VERA through the Vera came TV. Yeah, but I was just from Colton. I'm just straightening up from Colden. So I went to the show and he was on stage by something called me said, oh you came out. He called me on stage kept the part he was on the step outside. Well, we're smoking from his kiss,

you asked me. He was like, so, who rocking with you? And I was like knowing. I was like, come on stage with me and funk around because you was robbing out at Large Cript. Yeah, I was there with anybody? Was there? Anybody? Wait a minute? Wait a minute? All right, come on? I started, what's going on in Large by the way, Large Cream, you don't understand bro advice and

go on getting that crib money. I meant everybody like I'm at Bismarck, I'm at Baghetti, kid g rap and they all just came to this little part of it was always said Laws Professor had his own Molly mar crib like how Molly you know? And Laws had that in flush yeah, and we just looked through. Anybody just up getting Queen's Lounge. Queen's Land, that's what his name for Atlanta. I was like, what I got to do

with this? Alright, we're gonna seen Queensland Queen's Lound. So so so me and Mike, you know what I mean, we all shopped it up. So he got it. He got on stage. I got on stage, gave me and Mike and we we don't have no practice, no nothing, but we just looked at each other and we just took over money world, like the label looked at us. She was like Craig, you know, because you know sometimes Mike could be, you know, kind of calm and it's hype as me or whatever. But I got on stage

and they've seen the chemistry. And then another shot. I'm just starting. I'm just starting. You're talking about mama wanna are you gonna you can go back to the surround. Gotta grabbed the willow a little, Okay, whatever you want. If you shooting up around some I'm sticking with the y'all, y'all, I'm sticking. You got to pull my shot to my side. That that little ship. I need someone yeah, get me right, yeah yeah, I ain't gonna back me. You right to you.

I'm thinking, make you more more. I can't wait to work just to shot. I got a shot. Yeah. Are you gonna go to Gona? It makes sure you get me feel on that morning you say, maybe throw your you do? What's about more? Mama? Wa whatever you want you want? Abod was smooth it though. This is this ship. Yeah, yeah, that's a food priest in there. Yea, that's a little shot in there, your shot and I'm my li's two and one, So where is that? Yeah, that's that's all right. Yeah,

that's all right. That's that's about moving. That's that's a right, great rights some money, someone's love baby, that's the cook you right, let's might have a pen. I don't want to, mister, you can use my bathroom. Yeah, let me let me see your shot with your shot at because I should disrespect look all right, all right? Cool is disrespectful? All right? So the problem, let's go. It was a dumber. This is amazing. It's amazing. This is amazing. Someone nor you

for president after that? So flush, that's one thing. Let's switch it to you for a second. But before you guys, keep going. So you're not Cuban, right? Why not? Oh? Yeah, the master? Because I was never known, No, because you know, I just this. That's when he came out with the record keeping connection with my homieu. That's Cuban needs to hear keeping connection like he's Cuba. That's nobody. And he told me at some point, and I totally disregarded whatever

he said. I mean, listen to my last name being brown time wrong with mean yes, yes, my grandmother, my father and my mother they cut him. So we have you ripping that side. I think we had many drunk times, yes, yes, I know many many yes, I'm not saying but he did it for me like that. So um, you know a lot of a lot of people don't know. We just had nature on also being up to adog of if we had him on, Yeah, yeah, both alixa for he got drunk fast as his voice getting loud up.

That's drunk he getting. Don't ask Claycot wasn't like all right, flushed us enough, but we got big up the Nate. So one of the one of the things I credit with Nate's after the poem got locked up and after you know, the war reporter actually dropped, I didn't know what to do. I really didn't. Yeah, I really did. I really didn't know what to do. You know, poem locked up. A lot of the connections was two poems when poems when the jail. I wasn't you know, YO, give me this or tell me this so I can

do this. I can handle that. I wasn't thinking about that. I was thinking about But one of the records I always say, oh, it was I'm leaving, and it truly was as I'm leaving, and then a lot of people don't know that it was Cuban connection you know around that you know, uh, and I'm freking without the record. But but you know, so I want to pick you

up in your face, you know what I'm saying. By the time, I don't know, I don't know it was your cousin, but you know, because like it was like at the time, like you had a budget and you was like, yo, slide you no, I got I got

a record for you. And then I know only that I think you actually hugged me out with Bounty Killer Becah and those three features along with I'm leaving, and I believe you came up fund ship the those three It was first I'm leaving, then it was you, and then as you came up, and then after that I became a certified yond de. You know what I'm saying. What is it? Can you explain that I'm you move

back the way you just didn't? He was just said, definition, y'all, y'o hold on here, at y you can read it out loud here, Smiley, Can you read the definition of the yard day all out, Carol, can you read the definition of the yon day out out on camera? Plea, you come over there, if you can read it out your camera. I mean like, because I got nigga, let's cool. You wouldn't know what I do too. But this is the weirdest I made it up. But I didn't know

what I made up was already an advocating word. So well, yeah it was. That's very I was like, really, that's comfortable. Camera show me stay good, we get us, they'll catch you. I'm gonna look at us. Let just is a Nigerian shark for AlSi yandi, which means God owns the day and intelligence. Sexy will round the s. Can't be shy at times, but it's like to be by mostly everyone. He is laid back, but it's natural born, determined leader of the masses if only he can get over his

fears of success. He is ambitious, but it's also very prone to laziness. In Yonda is often labeled as arrogant, but when you get really know when when you really get to know me, you find out he's just timid. Yon Days are nurturists, protectors, appreciators of humanity, don't need thank you, thank God, We're good. Yeah we did. Do you know how feeling? You know how good it feels to walk a thousand miles in sin mhm miles And said, and you don't see you don't see no footprint. You

don't see no footprint. My nigga just showed me a footprint. I am not alone. That definition is that definition was us definition. We said stop saying. We said, my day. Question to you is when we thropisode what Rick Ross? Remember it was in the All Star Yes, and you said, this is what you kind of started saying, yon day. Okay, you've been saying it, but okay, and you said it and then he looked at you. He was he like he was saying it or something. Okay, did y'all no,

what did we rehearse that? No? No, what did you what? Y'all? On the same page on that was he using it? He said, you made it up and you didn't know it was a real world. But made it up that I didn't know it was a real world. But to find out what the meaning of that that was? That was that was Africa too. It's like it's the other day I was reading in this I was like that might have been in No, you say there was a lot more than that. There was a lot more, but

you know naked. So I gotta ask you. I gotta ask first of let me ask you this time to Bill, that was the record you wrote me Ule or a me Rule Action Jay, my little sister smoking right now. Yeah, I feel guilty, and I was just ask you because I just feel like because when I was googled, I just seen Rule and Jay. You're saying you have a record with you Rule X and JACT. That's just I'm vital too, shout out Rule. I love you, bro Hollo thick a thing left right. I don't give a funk

what niggas is talking about. Whatever you're doing right now, keep doing it. Fuck these niggas, keep doing what you're doing. I can't do what you do. So because when I looked at the visions, the versions I've only seen had only Rule and JA. That's why I said, Vinyl, I said, they that's just weird because it shouldn't be that because de winkin first and second went first second. Um, oh, that's not usual suspects. That's what usual suspect. That's when you got to hit you with a two. But fourth

you suspects a different record. That's that's right. What's the other kids that messed with tupacs on that shout out to Fato's brother too like? But let me say this is why we are on the topic. I've never got a chance to thank Cold and I've never gotten a chance to thank X and I want them to know first and foremost. I am okay, I'm all right. I'm

as happy as I've ever been in my life. But I think but Rule is different because Rule is like he's just like a speed dollar with you feel me, even though I don't take advantage, But that's still my brother no matter what them niggas is my brother's for life. I don't care what happens in this world. I don't care what happens in this universe. I don't care what happens in this time or place. All of them niggas

is more brothers for life, just like this one. You gonna smoke that movie to drink around it most like smoke David myself myself. I mean what they should be in their own call, but stick don't work. We watched him. But at the end of the day, this is my man, and you know what I mean, brother, And it's like picking the brain, you know what I'm saying. So sometimes

Mike to him and do him. But this is definitely a platform for him to finally show the people that that was on that he put on and I'm saying that that that past. I'm saying just to let him know. We never jealous this with jay Z on your ship No Single Life? What the like? Did we did usual suspects huh? The build uh? And the only record I did just me and with single Single Life? Do Rick James? They body that? Can they body that him? Body that came out officially Holy and records with jay Z? Yeah,

deserve by ace. Where your cup is that? You better drink this? You know it's crazy. I'm gonna tell you some was what I want to bring. What's more important is wild Okay. Now that I'm older, like I said, when you get older, you digest a lot. And jay Z is one of the people in my life that now that I'm older, and I thank you for this format because I know it will get to him. Damn Sure. There's so many things that he did not have to tell me what he feels like when like when the nigga.

When the nigga cares about you, they're going to tell you ship that you want to hear, even when you don't. So I would like you to elaborate on that, because what you're saying, you know what I'm saying. So you're saying that Jay was put you on the game, like like as far as no, he was concerned about me as a person in recent times, not so much in recent but it was this after you and the gouty break up, or this was in between you and the god.

He's misunderstanding. It was after and it was during And I don't know if Earth had to talk with him to tell him to talk like I remember, I did nothing moved but the money, right. I did this song with notes, right, I did this song with Puff and I remember whole came the bad Boy that day and we played it back and he was like, he said, um, you know you got something right, And I was just like, I don't know, I just know I feel good about

the song. He's like, no, you know you have something that still your biggest record to this day in terms of airplay, in terms of spins beating. I'm right here, I'm sitting that right, where did you get to that floor is before the money check. What I'm not saying is this when it came to that, When it came to um, he would like whole really was trying to get me to see beyond where I was like, he's a real story. I remember remember when All Star Weekend

was in New York, the first All Star Weekend. Everybody got robbed. Everybody got robbed us, So, m if you have to worry about yes, it's the fucking um. I remember it was me, Dame Latifa, shout out Queen Latifa, and it was all of a top top shout out money talk to I love you talk um and Latifa had us playing this drinking game at the ball. Come on and join us a drink. I'm getting into some real, real,

real ship. You'll totally get real. Yeah. I was waiting for this one, so I got loaded, bro like loaded us to where the whole room was spinning. I couldn't see nothing, only alcohol, only alcohol heroin. Yeah, it was that was It wasn't even that. When I took that rode, I didn't like it. Right, Sorry, I've done I've done. Cookeomine, Where was this at Mike let's story storry, sorry and yeah, story up once in my lifetime. Well, I just like

you want to go. So we're trying at once, and I was like, yeo, this ship is not for me. I'm paranoid, I'm worried about everything. Fingo, I heard you cocaine and we're direction story back back to the main talk. So I'm little, can't see a thing, and I'm scared of death to walk out the oil Star Cafe because there's a lot of police and there's barricades and there's people no I'm with, like IRV. And you gotta understand that that everybody roll with everybody, and Earth was the

main horm. So if rock a Phillip came out, murder came out. If murder came out, rough Riders came out. So all three of those camps we all rolled as one. It wasn't no point in time where we wasn't not mixed up together. And again this is going back to why I love Hope so much. I'm not just saying this ship because of where he is. And when I got older, it dawned on me right, So I get really drunk and really high, and I remember being at

the entrance of the All Star Cafe. This is like when Sylvester Stallone and I think Arnold Schwarzer aga MTV correct Facts and they owned it and I had to walk like the sod to day. So I had to walk outside, and I was like pet I was like, damn, I don't want to go out there because there's all these people. But there's something in my mom which is again back to the not believing in yourself aspect. I was like, ain't nobody gonna know who I am once I walk out this door. I could walk out, I'm

not gonna get I remember. I walked out and I'm stumbling, bro, I can't see left from right. I'm falling all over the place. And some white dude was just like, holy ship is my Geronimo? And the whole block just cheered and it's scared the ship at him, and flashes started going off, and I got all confused, and I drank so much from the drinking game with Latifa in them that I was about to like just drop and my

life dropped. I just started cascading this way and I felt somebody grabbing me and they picked me up and they threw me on their shoulder, and I heard him tell HERV He was like, don't worry, I got him. It was Jay. Wow. And Jay carried me all the way back to a range rover and here's where I'm gonna get highly person. And before I said, if you ever need help, talk to someone, I remember Jay putting me in the range rover and I remember him saying,

you can't do this to yourself. And I remember me saying, why don't you just let me die? Wow? And so to skip to that, wait, tell him hold litten, litten, listen, listen because it's a good wind. It's a good everybody. I'm sorry, I'm long winded when I'm old there now And I realized that being forty seven years old, thank God to bless me to get head facts. He didn't have to grab him, he didn't have to carry me and go that range rover and he damned shut it and have to ask me, is this what you want?

Why would you say that? He was genuinely concerned. But again that Alice in Wonderland scenario. People don't understand when you in this ship and so many people pulling you left, right up down vertically diagonally, you don't know who to believe in. And now that I'm older, I realized that when he said that he didn't give a funk about Mike Geronimo, he cared about Michael McDermot and he didn't have to care about Michael mcdernoy, especially not a man

in his position. And that's why I say, I don't give a funk what happens with these niggas. Ex chib jay. This is my family and my squaw flush included for life. These people did not have. So where I was going. So like three months after that we did the show was in North Carolina at the college. Wait, this is the dice game. No, I told him about the doctor my first year. I want about a hun thousand. So good. So three months later we're in North Carolina. We got

the song, so hobvious we're kicking it. So now I'm out there. It's like a z couple of niggs day back that they playing dice with a bunch of niggas from from South Carolina, South Carolina, North Carolina one of them, I think it was North North count So they all losing, everybody losing. So I come. So before we do a show, a gamble boom, so I'm gambling a Z lost his money. So now I'm up me like five thousand. But I

gotta perform. You use up no this just so I gotta perform, you know, never to take nothing from credit. But Mike Jarama was kind, you know, a little high at the time. So actually jay Z opened up for Mike gerame at the time, and I see the picture with me and Michael stage. I'm giving ja pound as he's walking out. He got to make a little fun. So jay Z performed. He did you know, he did his joints and while he's doing his joint some gambling gamma and I'm winning him up. So now I met

maybe like almost ten thousand. But I gotta go out and perform. So I got and performed. So boom. So I performed and knock it out. We come back out, the kids still there. So I said, man, I gotta, I gotta go somewhere else. Go ten thousand, he said, bat ten, So I want boom. So now I'm like ten yrold ten in Rold. So I'm maybe up a hundred thousand at this point. So I'm at a hundred thousand booms. I'm going and booming, So maybe I'm at like one eight. Now I got him, got him up,

So now I go cool. This when I'm at the I No, you don't even leave yet. You're sitting there with me. So now I go cool. So now I go, you know what, I gotta go up ships and he was bathroom. I said, Mike, call the airport. Were the funk out of here. I'm going, I'm leaving. I'm leaving. I'm leaving. Mike said, cool, I'm gonna go with Shorty real quick. Drum So now, because no, it wasn't like that they knew my girl. They was from b K. You're still gonna take them down? No, no, no, yo, yo,

man right there. I don't know if the feeling because it definitely looks like you're feeling yea television if if they later, So I met them through my ladies. So they was just on some GP show like Yo, you knows your family were down here, shout out training. I was a little creepy. No, it wasn't that. It wasn't that fact if who was that Nigo fact? The family families. So he was with me. So now now the kid runs out of money, Now I go, short nigger. He didn't borrow ten ten ten. So now he runs out

of money, I'm like two hundred thousand up. So now his room in my room. I swear to Golf not to intervene. Is the most amazing thing, Like at forty seven, I think about it, I'm like, that is the most amazing just pure luck ship I've ever seen much as as much as I love man Us, as much as I love him, the kids didn't worry for us before that. No, I'm just like, man, I'm just like, I'm just thinking travel. It kind of was no I was, I'm so, I mean, you know what I mean. I didn't mass see he was.

But it's solidified after that. So so now we get to the room I put it. We got to connect the room. So I'll put a hundred thousand in the tub in that room, and I go to the other room. I said, Mike, we're about the pack. He go, I'm going downstairs. So now Mike leaves. Now the kids come back. But but I still got a huney back. This didn't come back with half a million dollars mine. So he wasn't nigga nigga. He wasn't letting me leave. Already, everybody put that to us. He wasn't let me. I don't

get how he's going home that night. I was gonna give him some of his money. When I came in the room, he was hop so I couldn't get away and get on the plane. So I couldn't leave you skipping the park because I came in the room and oh, I get piss you off heavy before and if we got to show money, and to show money at that time, the most we was getting to keep it a buck. He's getting like if we was lucky for a grandfather.

When I came in a hotel room, the snicker had hunteds all over the fucking bed, but they was like situated. That's how he was giving me the money. So his money was wait wait, wait time I came out not to jump over the wind. But when I came in and I was like, yeah, what the funk? Happy? Because when I came in the room and seen all the clumps on hunted, so I was like, Yo, the fund did you niggas do? But this thing is like yo, you know how flushed it? When he's on the road.

I knew, you know he like with the fast hook like yo, And I did this blood. I'm the tim niggers. So I'm like, I ain't nigger. I'm coming back to my room to go to bed after I eat, and I'm gonna sleep peaceful knowing you get rid and give me some of that in the morning. Good night. That was it. Then he went hot and I did. And I know the nigga is beating me for the hunting, but I know I got another hunt. So now I was like, I skipped it four. I went in my pocket and my jeans I did, I did, I did,

And he put money in my jeans I put. I put the thirties and energees. I mean, I do these nicks ones gonna let me leave. I don't give a funk my niggers. I was hot everywhere I was, wherever my nigga. I put it in my drawers and socks. Nigger. I didn't give a but so I took up. Maybe it could have been like seventy four thousand. I knew it and over there. So now I know I got like at least once twenty, So I've been a seventy four he backed ten thousand. Guy beat it. I'm winning something. Los.

I'm like, I hope just want to lose every I just want to get the funk home. So I want to lose everything. So now I'm down and nothing. And I called Mike. I'm like, I'm Mike, be ready to go. Didn't answer. I swear if you don't tell this part correctly because he left with some fucked up I didn't tell you. I didn't. I didn't tell you. Tryn't tell Tom.

I don't say all the time. When he called me, right, I like one of your niggas left somebody, no go home because I'm like, niggy, you've got the bread break out. I'm not getting on the plane. Leave it's time for North Carolina. So I told him and James I'm mine. So I tell him and my man g I'm like, you go get on the plane. I'm gonna stay low with the two birds I'm with. And then you didn't have two b It wasn't bad, you know, just a little man's up two hundred anything, no time him. I'm

like your skate. I'm a book of flight in the morning. None of these niggas, no where I am. I'm not even coming back to that hotel. I don't give a funk about my luggage. Nigga, I'm gonna stay at the crab you and the west of the waste land, niggas go fly home. I'm gonna sneak to the airport. And then after that everything is all right? What does Karen do with all her yeah yeah ship, what his Karen decided to do? She picks up the phone and tells

everybody where everybody is and now what. In other words, he's so concerned about me that I'm telling him. I'm like, hello mc flott, fucking lee, want to fucking wait? We were listened the whole part. How to fund these names? Knock on my door? How do you know? My Mother's like, they're not. I'm hiding my money. I'm to get away. You want this money legally? Yeah right, little that, this little dazy, this little jazy that what didn't happen? A million dollars? Easy was like, can I take a walk?

How say tell him no? And I wouldn't not get Easy walk out of my windows. When Easy asked a little b yo, can I take a walk? It was flushed cheeks, Easy and like two, shout out to my country, cheek, shout out to nig Like I said before, I before nigga. It wasn't about nobody but me. This little nigga my name he killed. But even I had to look so, like I said, I hit that. I had to think of what he was gonna win. I was just I wanted to lose. But now after I losing, I'm leaving.

So he had a nigg at the back door, the front door, and the elevator, like well, I wasn't leaving. Its various. So I'm gonna tell you, but I hit the others just so. Now when I'm looking out all the money, I got all the funny texting, it gonna how do you thousand dollars spect to me? But I guess hot outside I got short, So w of like this movie, I got a lot tause it produces like the story because he's still fucking I didn't know you're talking line. Oh ye're telling you eyes full of ship,

don't do that. I don't do that. I'm alone. Don't do that. It's a great stop even it was a great story. It was, but you kind of don't don't don't mine. I'm just saying with a little bit because when I was all too so now what I now, I can confirm my twenty five. I gave him twenty five. Yeah, but you come out stuff the right. I don't say to me, he said, got everything. And I chastised you when I was on the plans, like you're fucking dumb

thumb because I told you to leave already. But you're so fucking concerned that somebody's gonna do something to me. And I'm telling you I'm a training on five thousand dollars. No money listened first second off, the little nigga came back and roped him, gave him a proper one. I want, you know what the sports what you mean I want? I want to go home. Yeah, I got a thousand on my pocket and take the money back, took all of it back, make it back, to make it back.

I'm not saying his intentions wasn't pure. It was pure. So he goes in there still wait, but the moot about the news. When I did back the flushy, I go in his credit them like, yeah, that's a nice fucking cow. This little clock sonna take anything bad, which is obviously Mike. You gotta understand, right, cool, I might leave it alone. I love, but but the more the story is like a dice game that's where the dice game turned to morel It was the most amazing straw

I've ever witnessed, like living and breathing. And your man had a shipload. He had more money than we had did in ten shows on that fucking bed and one. But this whole story started with jay Z started and here he wasn't dead like the origin. I remember him. I remember, I vividly remember, because he lost money and he was asking and I started winning. Gave you said I was doing. I was working with chicks, being Mike in the cut, and I want to know, I came backstage.

I've seen him doing what they was doing, but at the time they was rolling the dice. So I didn't really think nothing nothing. I was like this when niggas do. When I got to the room, bro, and I looked at my bed. Bro, the first I thought, you know, I thought niggas did some flushes ship because they did, and we in North Carolina. I'm not going down for this ship. Bro. It's a casino game started. The dice game start and behind the day because on stage it

was just a little cursed. He got more money some when he was when he was gambling, and I said that he used to go. But as I felt like forty, he's something, you'll give me ten, You'll give me ten, and these things pulling out neat money, neat money, but everybody, no, nobody run, no more money. Then he sent my four niggers home and then surrounded the hotel. They and they literally because he didn't see that part because I went to Aha. I just I didn't go into the hotel.

I stayed in the car with the two brothers because once I got back to the hotel, literally the entire hotel was surrounded with North click maybe well that's a minute where I was like, Yo, what the fund is up? But I'm in the car with them, so I was and they was all right. So I was like, give me that because my main thought was him. So once we get to the we pulled up first to the front door, and I told him. I was like, don't go there and go to the side. Dude. They gave

me what they had. I jumped out because I'm worried about him. I think James called me, and that's when I was like, Yo, go back home. I'm gonna go stay with them. I'm not even gonna go back to my room. Fuck the clothes, fuck the show, money, all that ship, go home and take that bread home. We had to go night man, man, I came on. If it would have worked out, it would have been worked out for you know. I look, it kind of worked out for you. Though there's forty years later then the

truth come out. This it happens, my friend, That's what happens, all right. Nobody gave me account. I brought it, he did, alright. One last game. I have to ask this, the fallout with Got. I knew that was coming. You knew that was coming. You know, it's crazy, bro, I could shop here online say that I haven't. In my mind, I asked myself how I would address this because I've never but I promised you that day a mixed joint shout out Mickey and Queen's find us. I promised you what rock? What?

What told me? Yea ya, yeah yeah. I forgot to remind them my bad that might be what's rock? How do our started? That's kind of right still the analogy I would use this. Let me let me give you a little let me give you um. Let me let me describe my question a little better. Absolutely, I said the four hour guy, right, but Willie, what I wanted to say is, you know, we all Papa because this is this is this is about a sip. But I ain't gonna do that dude like that. We're gonna get

your whole old Look. Look, I can't do that to you that everybody out the worst room break. Yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I ain't gonna lie because this theause. It's a big different week. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I got to go to the basketball. So before before we took a break, I just we wanted to get into the actual. You know, you know this is inevitable, but before you that, you wanted to give me something. Yeah,

I love gifts. Shout out to my man's Puzzle Life and he has a foundation called Puzzle Life and it's for kids that have autism that are from the inner city. My son, Matthew is heavy on the autism spectrum. But the Rocket has a son that's I love you. What I wanted to do is they found out what's coming on here and it means the world for them to give this to you. So Puzzle Life, this is for you,

so beautiful. Okay, this is my car. A foundation organization found that information for them you can go right here, it's printed. You can go on Instagram, you could uh hashtag Puzzle Life organization from the South Bronx. They work to bring attention to kids that have autism in the inner city. Like I said, my son is heavy on the spectrum of autism and kids go through yea nephews. Yeah,

so you know they wanted me to go. I don't side block if not, even if it's not, it's double that I got when I was okay for you, I'm speak for that guy. Yeah, so this last question that we're gonna bring our next So what was the actual? You know? Because I like it director, you know, um, you know when we look at when we look at much we look at you know, it's it's ship is real. It's almost like, yeah, try to like almost a havoc and p almost you know, the ddy the biggie, you

know what I'm saying. It was almost felt like that. So to see y'all fall out and me, I'm one million per cent on the outside look at because I don't know how the world so I don't I don't know. I mean, I know that just broke up, so well, no one knew why. I see this shot first, everyone wouldbers a question, right, the right thing right, boom shot a little more. No one really knew why. We heard about what he said after, But why was it said? Why was the fallout prior to that? Um, that wasn't

the top door contract you're supposed to sign a top joke? Yeah, I mean it was a couple of things, bro, It was a couple of things. So I think the first thing, like when I'm met her, I'll be honest, some connections in your life there organic or frip h Like, um the minute me and him that it was just add water, you feel me? Um the minute me and that man just add water. The men me, poll Man, me and Eric Man. All that ship was just ad with you, genuine,

genuine organic. It wasn't like that. I was like, I want to I want to be dere was an advocate, sure because and that's and you you could you could probably be wanted me to Sinkarat boy in that first video. That was like, it was like, so that's organic to me. This is what I'm gonna say to you, Okay in the first video. No I'm not I'm not knowing I'm correct because I won't say there wasn't an organic element to it. Eventually, for me as a person, it takes a lot for me to find reasons not to deal

with someone. I'm a very um I might be in my own show, but I'll give anyone in the world that that fucking it's just genuine and I think a lot of people take advantage of that. And I remember not too long ago going online and it's funny when you read what people say about and like I said, just by nature, I'm not into me as a person. Everyn now, once again I peep just to see stapshot what's going on, and it was I don't know who this person was, but I think they summed it up

in the best way possible. This person who I don't know said, pardon their personalities, class right, meaning everything ain't for everybody. Everybody ain't for everything, And it kind of it kind of threw me back in the sense that someone who doesn't knows us knew the exact reason as to what it was and to to to go on

more depth into it. I met her at that talent show and I met her through my nigga Chucky Madness right keep going, and Shuck was like Chuck used to keep me okay and BASI he was have seen you. I was a freshman coming in the bayside of high school. But Chucky Madness was a legendary DJ and queen like he's the niggle who took the the Nintendo ship and blended it and that blend tape went everywhere in the world.

And Chuck new Eb and Chuck new DJ said, right, look at that point, I'm not saying magoogle in salt him. I'm just saying that that niggas had to him. No, his name was DJ Herb, but other niggas called them magoole because Earth would always squint like this detective wasn't de yeah something something, that he was so close looking at your story. So I would always call, I'm sorry, how here, I'm just listening right, So you know I didn't really, I didn't drink right there. I didn't. I

didn't at all notable. And then I remember the night I met him at the talent show at Liverpool, and that was a hectic talent and Nigga shot the shut up for all that ship. But I remember that Nigga came over up. It's kind of like that. No, it's like the que club something like that cute club. Damn. I mean, I gotta hope bout of fact think I like things like you because I drink drink your ship. You like you. I don't drink. You're good with Google, That's all right, I think A. It was crazy because

of the way that he came. I'll never forget the way he came up to me in the town on the show and he was just like, you know, I got the studio and when he shut all of that ship. First of all, I was drunk off senors because that's all we drank all day time. Yeah, so I'm drunk and I'm high. And then Nina comes up to me talking all our ship, and I just started spitting off. And his asking a talking, I just started blacking out,

what is that going wrong? Yeah? I went wrong? When we went wrong was the first thing that went wrong was we was in front of my crib, and Flush could tell you my parents loved all of my friends. Like my crib was kind of like if your kid didn't get loved at home, he could come to my crib. So him shout out infrared, my cousin infrared. H The crib was on the army base. So I wasn't used to that. I'm coming from ioked something crazy side. My father was in the Armed Services. My father was a

sergeant shout arresting peace to. My dad was in base side four time at that time. So that's real. Really yeah, yeah, I like military arm I'm walking to army base. First thing that is coming. My father. My father was n y p D. And my father was a surgeon, a sergeant for you. That's rags met my nigga. So my dad fought in like three wars, bro. But anyway, neither

here nor that. My crib was the hub. He could come, Rudy cook Um, anybody, anybody could come, and my parents would be like, yo, you can sleep here, you could eat here. I went from cribs for a time. That was my best listening girl. Finish because listen, where did it go wrong with? Because okay, everywhere that we did, and we did a couple of records, and I remember it was one night in particular, IRV and Nicholas came to my crib and my mama, my stepmama, I don't

call her that, but she's my mama. My real mama passed, was your and audience. Second, bj was my manager. Nicholas is a guy that got shot with Tupac in the elevator when he got wrong. Nichols is Freddie Mooon. You got history. So Nick was my roan, which kind of yet fat. So Nichols kind of made me more entwined with you know, the un brother. Nichols was my room manager. He got shot in the elevator with pop Uh. Anyway, so it was one night in particular and everything was

coming to a head. Shout out to Bonds, Roger Bonds, and and and and and priests and because that's another party. So my cousin Roger bondes fun with puff at Babble. I was a manager. George Roney was my first manager. So there was a tug a war going on between George Rowan who was my manager, and earth Gotti, who pretty much later the football. And I'm caught in the middle. I'm eighteen years old the beginning of your second album. This is still the first album before we even finished Natural.

So I'm just like, I'm I'm a baby, and not to mention, i gotta gun charge. I'm in court food while all of this ship facts and the one in the change. So IRV is like, yo, I don't understand why is all this? Why you letting all these niggas come between us? Blah blah blah. And I'm telling the nigger, I'm like, yo, bro, I'm not letting no one come between it. I know what you did. I know you

pressed the record up. I know you got hight, You've got all these things that me and myself I would have never brought to my table because I'm not thinking this way. And IRV has an uncanny ability to let his ego, I hate to say it, take control of every motor function, and I never forget. The nigga turned to me and he was like, see, I should have just made you sign a paperwork. And when he said that, ship a joke ran through my body. Joe a June like a you know, like a child, like you know

when you when you do one of them things. Some may wait a minute, my mama just gave you a play the food. I just asked you two weeks ago for five dot because I stopped selling drugs all that ship. I'm broke, bro trying to figure out what I want to be in. Like I go to this studio because you asked me to. When you like, you'll just try it. I think you wouldn't even give me five dollars for Chinese food. But you're gonna city after my mama just fed you a play the food and tell me you

should have made me sign anything. First of all, you're not a fucking maide. Nobody signed nothing, Nick, And I'm not saying that to change up ego. But I'm just calling it like I seen. And the first thing that ran through me I was like, Yo, this nigga don't respect me. This Nika thinks that I'm some sort of its nigga that lives on an army base and base side and comes from an obscure place that he's never known because it's from the side of Queens. He don't

fuck called flushing. You don't tell me anything in terms of get your tea, So so really I'm getting everything you think of me in one fatal school gotta be

devil with advocate. Do you think that he meanted it in a way where like, yes, I need to why which which way you think he meant it A way he meant it in the egotistical way that he thought this is the world map that I should follow, because if I follow this and bit you see me in this car and see me with this person, and I'm under this umbrella, this all affords according to that script, and this nigga don't fall into that. I'm just gonna

use him to get where I need to go. The reason I will tell you that is because the hood Rats nigga that he fucked with before me, there was a record called if You Bootleg and You're getting your leg h. That's the group he fun with before me, who went nowhere fast. You're finding obscure nigga from Bayside, New York who's never ever no one knows him. And I'm gonna tell you the most assulting ship since we're

gonna call Spades Phades. I think I came around, but anyway, the nigga tried to introduce me to someone that I had already been on side with. You feel me. And when the nigga put tried to act like he was putting me on the person, the person was like, Nigga, that's Mike. Mike ran from T and T like ten times this summer and came back to the block the same day. I tried to pay the nigger to come back and work, and he wouldn't do And I knew the nigga you turned me onto. You understand what I'm saying.

I understanding, So mind you. I don't say nothing and I don't do nothing. But in that one moment when he told me, see, I should have made you okay, okay, later, let me finish that. Let me play Devil's advocate. I'm gonna ask you because you're my nigga. I do believe you have genuine Do you not have genuine love for me? Bo? Okay? So I'm gonna ask you, is my nigga? Wonder one fu the camera? Was I right to feel insulted? This is my point. I'm listening. We're not connect right now.

You were both in six were both in six of the shot too. But let me just him. I could understand how if he meant that, that's like elaborate. Let me hit me out like yo, I knew I should have did a certain thing like he might have said it. That's what I'm saying. I'm not. I'm not I'm not actually love no, no, not what he means. He means that he just ran with with he thought, but he didn't take the time to properly emplay. Yes, spin on

it like it's different. It's different from me and pone like when me and p when Bone came home and I said we're going with dis lawyer came a funk about how I said it or not because he trusted me enough to know, but I would they could have been. They could have been a way how I said it to him because he's just come home from jail and he could have took it that way. But that's the reason one who's just giving you the devil advocate? So what are you saying? So this is what I'm trying

to say, this off by you. He's pist off, he's but he's about to come on and say, don't know what I'm saying. I guess as an example, But what I'm saying is when the person said the person says, yeah, I should have made you sound me. It sounds like some ship night ship right, But if we family, it really isn't like the thing is this right? Let's what's hold me a flush right, forget, I'll get it exactly, I get you a real life have I from for roal to everybody? Yes, he did literally wrap this dude,

and I broke him to see. I brough him to NA everybody, everybody. They gave me the weirdest excuses, like a mans two times, like why did he have a toke on? He was, I didn't know what to do. I didn't know what to do right, so he hit me. The thing is they didn't know how to say. They told me, you know, but they didn't know what. I knew it later on and like after they do, I understand what. It doesn't matter and here's my counter to that.

And don't understand where you were going. You're saying, Yo, Sometimes there's situations where the train is moving so fast. Sometimes you have to override the fact that everyone's not being what you're saying. It is kind of but there is this ship that I'm saying I can that went back and said fuck you Jaz and fuck you loves, like now you want to work when I change out before like but I did so, but I did feel

a certain way. I did feel the same word not but just then I'm talking with Mr Cool everybody, I grow a no limit because no limit. It was a guy named Skold Duggery that was signed the Pilote Record and he was I was shopping from a little to that. But what I'm trying to say is like sometimes you could have a little bit of foresight. So do you think like in retual respect, in retrospect, we're taking all the way back and said, Yo, do I think I overreacted?

Did you get overreacted? And you think I see you have side when I get so I'm gonna say this. People would have asked my question myself that question many a day, right, and and and I'm gonna be more um, more definitive because I know you understand. I understand no, but I know you understand when you allow yourself to grow, it's a different ballgame. You could admit to yourself, you know what. Maybe I was a little bit of petuous. Maybe I was just going with youth and and doing

with youth because youth are highly offended at everything. Because I heard when he said to you, you said, I let you do half of the album and then' gonna let my other time out. I'm gonna tell you another story that showed me the truth. We're coming out of t V T one day he wasn't in, but you know this story, well, it was if I wasn't worried about putting myself on that mean it was dope. We're supposed to follow this league a little you, Thomas. We're

not breaking is what I'm gonna say. Okay, figuring really speaking, very good, cold case. I heard what he said about that. I'm acknowledging with he. I'm gonna say this, I never forget. We came out of t v T one day and Irving just got an mp V, a maroon MTVV right follow me. We came outside of tv T and the window was busted in the MPV. And mind you, this is after that. I should have made you. The window was busted. The MPC machine is gone. Somebody broke into

this mp V and took the machine. We go up East fourth Street, ruin East four if you can only make it right, there's a restaurant and then there's like this weird oh home was shouting and RV is heartbroken that somebody broke the window or the MPV and took off the drum machine. But your record, every record, it's me Earth, my man bank rest in peace and infra red in the in the MPV, that's my cousin back, that's my cousin grew up in my credit Ya. We

love chandel grad. Yeah, the smaller that's come. Let's go, let's go, let's go there. So we go around the corner on East lot yea on East Fourth. When we make the right turn, it's a one way street. There's a stround that frequently right and for some strange reason, we pull around, and in my peripheral I keep seeing this one nigga checking out the MPV, but then checking out his forward direction. And I'm not going, niggy, you know how that go? Something in me told me you'll

watch him. So the nigga keeps looking at the MPV and then keeps looking at the door to shelter, keeps looking at the mp Finally, by chance our eyes like I tell her, I'm like, that's the nigger who broke into that fucking trump. He has the drum machine. I don't say nothing. I jumped out the MP like quick, nig I'm going out the MP like boom with father, knocking this nigga around in the front of the home,

the shelter. If it jumps out behind me, beating the ship out, this nigger being jumps out the side Mr Street rest to piece the big bank blocks the entrance to the shelter, get a little big. So if I'm beating the ship out to sneaking like, nigga, where the funk is this draw machine? Yeah, I don't know nothing. I don't know nothing. I'm dounding the niggers moment me and no, I don't even get pund out is passing the nigga too. It's like a pinkong bull big blocks

the entrance. So the nigga cam running, I'm like, if where the road machine stop? We run up another level of the building. It's like a two story building. So now when we run on, I'm sorry if everybody don't get me, but I'm gonna tell it like I'll tell you turn out so sorry, black family, I could tell it to yourself. And talking feeling the right, I feel like they telling you I'm a nigga standing for so

were beating the nigga the fuck up. We beat the nigga all the way up to the second flight of the Homeless show with the breaking don't wait tom out. Police came police and police got burners out on us like this. They're like, nobody fucking move, We'll pop anyone me And if it's busy beating the shut out the nigga. The nigga finally gets to the point where he's like, all right, it was that nigga right there. The nigger IRV was like, yeah, I'll tell you anything you know

you want to know. I'm a producer's time time I want to hear it. I'm I'm on the wall this with holice for the burner on. I'm like, nigga, I just hopped out of your vent for your machine, with your music. The pool is here with your music here. God damn it, we tell out we talk. I didn't know.

I said to myself. I said, Yo, if this nigga could tell you in front of your house after your mom said, after your mom's gave the stinker play the food, the nigger said, Yo, I should have made you if this nigga fucking and it's poort and part irview stories, keep a club, remember them is called the club. If he would have said that ship and I would have said, you right, you made us snigger with that check. We did it all wrong. Bro. Let's just move on with them.

My nigga, that's something in life that we was police supposed to let that in that moment, and he turned and he turned to the police and he was like, I'll tell you everything. I kind of frolt, like, YO, what do we expect that we wanted to know? I added that to the that Tom and maybe maybe I'll say this, maybe I don't call it right, but to me, it all added up to this person doesn't really care about you, Mike. And if this person fucking I'm not

gonna say that, wait tim out. What I will say is he had respect for everything we did because what we did was bigger than us. We we changed a thousand people's lives from one record from ships. Really, we change whole whole life. We change ex life, we change we changed his life. We changed a million niggas from just one record. And it ain't even what I wanted in life. But then when he said that, I kind of was like, YO, if you'll do this, what happens?

When he was like, YO, should have made your sign, but this right that's as you're my man and you're signed to somebody and you don't like the contract you're signed too, you don't think that's rightfully for me to say I want to take whatever don't take from him? Is you know everything that I didn't think to do, you did, and was I willing to sign this contract? Absolutely had he not said that that night after as

as me being a man, people gotta takeose. Listen, people gotta because I'm gonna tell you, people gotta pick and choose. That was the right time for him to say that, So Nigga's got to use their weapons when they could use him. He was because he was trying to prove a p to you, like whatever you want to say. What I'm trying to say, is this, What I'm trying. What I'm trying to say is this, And please, years old, don't tell me I should feel about allowed me to speak, yes, yes,

and I do love that. But allowed me to speak at forty seven years old, having a family. One thing. Nobody in this world can't tell you how you feel. You feel how you feel because of a reason. It's not to say that nobody can't give you clarification about how you feel, and then maybe you feel differently after you have the discussion. That's not what was presented to me. Point Black, I love Earth. There's nothing just to clear up everything to this day. Earth can't go through nothing.

And if I'm there, I wouldn't stand. There's us to the end. Still still you love me, You hear me, you stop for you. You're my geronimo nigga. Let's talk about my geronimo. Bro made to watch you, my nigga crazy. I'm not in danger of jeopardizing where I stand with people. Tend you got it, so allow me to just watching watch I'm gonna watch you, guy. I'm here for you

contectually always. You know that, right, So what I would say is that because of what we did as people, and because of the amount of lives that we change from just one record, I will always love Love Earth God. I don't care if IRV got He does a movie. I don't care if IRV got He does another audience. I don't care if IRV got He does Murder Ain't

the reboot. I love Irving Lorenzo and I'm gonna say this, I understand some of the things that he said and did because when it comes to the time, because when it comes to it, either you ready for this game that you're not. But but but now, I want to super be a depth sadvocate, super bid I'm not on

anybody's side for queens, right. It came a time were actually enjoyed it beyond your own all right, Joseph, be on you because I felt that would I saw with figurative red flats and the first thing and the other thing I didn't touch on. Another thing that turned me off was I started watching how this money started changing nigga that we said that, and I started watching how

nigga started becoming different towards each other. And I started asking myself, and are you ready to tell somebody that you fucked with all day long when you had nothing? You can't funk with that? No move because life has taken you somewhere else. Are you gonna be able to live with that? Because guess what this game tells you. This game tells you you better convert to what this vis call success wants you to be. And if you can't be the boyfriend that I'm looking for, then I

don't want to fun with you. I'll fuck you, but I don't want to funk with you. That's why I fun with him and me as emotion I said to myself, I said, yo, bitch, I see you you ah, I see who you are. Bitch. You're gonna push me away from niggas that kept me okay when I had nothing. You're gonna push me away from niggas that when I couldn't find a reason to go on and none of it made sense. These are the niggas that in the crib would tell me something. So o' god, man, God,

relaxed with it, man, we last listen. We're telling something real emotional that's really getting things are because that would tell me something that would thank me see what I couldn't see it myself, and they didn't have the option we had. And you're trying to force me to leave niggas behind me that won't get the shot that I got that I never wanted. So basically, it was more like you're gonna royal flush, You're gonna father less lead. If you want to keep stop, If I don't need

you to protect me, I'm not. I'm not just keep talking. I don't need you to tell you. I don't need you to protect me right now. Let me grow up, but keep going. I'm always gonna back. I love you, but you pet you nigga could have pushed me away from him, Yes, I thought that long time ago, and they just tried to push me away too, And I didn't want to. I didn't want nobody to push me away from my brothers, and I wasn't allowed with nobody to push me with from my brothers. I can see

that there's a rainbow over there. And if you just go according to the script that we feed all of your motherfucker's, you won't be just from And if I give you enough, you forget what the fun kind of ship is that? Why would you ask me to forget him? I agree? So I walked away from everything everything Nigga. I tried to take my home life because it is ship. I got that call I was there for. And one day I woke up and I heard my mom. My

mom died when I was ten blood. I went to t V T and him, Nigga said, guess what, We're not giving you no more of a dem I said, oh you not, I said, so, let me get this straight. You set me up to seller album that only sells eighty thou unions in its first week. You don't have your radio team in order, you don't have your marketing team in order. You don't even have the fucking artwork guy in order. Me and this nig is looking through the little glass at photos like use that for the cover.

You're relying on this motherfucker, but he don't. Already got signed the Deaf Gym and became an A and all, so you really think he gives a funk about what happens in not to mention, he's gonna use the second album to run each dry and he knows you. But this motherfucker ate to play the food from My mama told me he was my fucking friend, and my mama shows him love and his brother shows me more love than Damn and not me and tell me I said drink anything against this man, no matter what he did

to me. Nig It is footage on YouTube, this nigga gloating about shutting down my shows with fore Master flet wait time out. I don't give a funk with you, meant it or not. I wouldn't do that to Bro because I get my men. You're my men. I will never do that to him. This money should never let advocate. I got a piece over you. I don't get what you're saying is done, but this is what I'm trying to say. Late Bro, your ex girl ex shorty, just say your ex shorty. I don't know your ex shorty,

you really wanted to do good. That's not right because that's I'm saying like I'm just saying, I'm not being never an advocate for Earth full for Earth. No, no, no, because I get with you, I get the analogy. It's the funk up analogy because that imagine made me want to more this one like you should have gold and then you went through that much of a role your number one should it leaves you? You don't you speaking from a little different how did you treated me like

your number one seat? You treated me like I was unintelligent. You're treating me like I was a fucking Paul. You treated me like yo. You should have just went with it just because stupide. You should just recognize that I'm his. And if you want to call a spade, is spade. I love Earth for his ingenuity, I love Earth for his tenacity, I love Earth for his perseverance. I love Earth for the fact that he will build a better mousetrap. What I don't love Earth for is he reminds me

of fucking Trump. No, Jesus, I think they take it or fucking least the story like out of money's your rare. Yeah, everybody can tell those good lay brothers they can keep jumping in her. I shouldn't saying that. I should say it is not stunt telling me how to field is before me. I know, kindly, children there my whole business.

And again I am lation should they whether it's like it or not, whether I'm missing deal with I'm gonna telling you the fucking field about gonna know the funding day tears before he said, then years old and tell me I'm not smart of the evacuated process, with the production the funk out of ye, I'll do this ship more fucking day. Bro, I'm on, I don't know. And then if you re ask for me to give you the fucking truth, I should take that the truth us that a surprising where we are now as a deep

The truth is the fucking truth. If it doesn't had up one plus one is too, that's a fucking lie. And don't ask me the rod with the fucking line his dess what side H. I gotta answer to myself in the morning, Bro, I gotta answer to my kids. An Bro, I gotta be okay with when I'm going to that f the way that I felt that ship, I get fun out of body funk feels bad. I

don't give a rats asked about it. I gave my whole life to this ship, and then when I stopped with this ship, I went and rebuild another fucking life that has nothing to do with hip hop because I'm not about that ship. I'm not gonna give up all my people because the niggas with money is telling me your funk with him, fuck your fault, funk that your mom took the time to care about somebody else's child the way she would care about you. I'm not that nigga.

I wasn't. I'm gonna come out and say I wasn't built to play this game because this game will make you lead, make his behind. This game will make you believe you something else unless you're strong enough like my nigga. This is why I love him to death. You can't normal set the shot and then what it is, and I'm doo a funk about how no one fucking takes Perry. Come listen, this is feeling us to sit down. Baby, We're gonna find let's do it were my motherfucker's the

rock fire. I'm on colors. Then come on say rock shot like I didn't said I'm a sad little gas because you know why we're feeling about a fresh I'm should you take your take? M gonna be said, want required. That's the reason why you know we're rolling. I mean we haven't stopped. I mean, we haven't stopped. You know this is this is our show, buddy, Um but buddy, But what I'm saying is because so many people use that word black ball, do you think at one point

absolutely without questions because you finish him. I like it, and I'm gonna tell you why it would be different. You thought he was black ball. Let's be clear. The second album, for the third album, Oh I'm so so the second album, second album, that's when you went a puffing them. So because it's across the ship. I've watched someone on the internet it said the beef between RB Gotti and Pump Daddy started, wait dad to be and

who's puffed up these cousins? Yeah, we all. The beef between Herb Gotty and I loved that he had a temporary beat was because Herb said that he didn't want anybody to work with my Geronimo. But meanwhile the hitman and the didn't work. I believe that and Here's why I believe it because there's footage right now on YouTube. Were doing an interview with funk Master Flex. This is the nature that I don't have beef re Flex because I don't consider the nigga to be a nigga. You

could have beefoot. That's the second time you said, Flex, you got your shot, though? Does that shot? Is that a shot that was that? That may not get it? Flex a couple of months ago was talking about jay Z and I'm gonna reiterate. He was j wait TMA, I'm not an internet dude. I don't keep up with it. You feel me, Well, I'm in the lane. I'm in my lane. I think of my kids, I think of

what my business made that day. I think of red, I think of black And I said, I know right it just were saying that, I know y'all with me. So I'm not paying attention to order some other playground ship. I'm not. I'm not even in the playground, bro Moel. Somebody calls me, y'all flex some some ship about yo. If jay Z Waldy would have been Mike Geronimo who was He didn't make it, but he was nice and he was an insult and and it wasn't an insult

on flex Pot, but it could have been worded differently. Right, yeah, fast forward. I shoot back at Flex like, Yo, I'm not with none of this sucker ship, bro, because I just came off with Steve Stout coming up here and saying some fucking weirdow ship for god that apparently was on your show. Well he was on the show and

me and you listen to Mike around. Yeah, some personal but some person who wasn't affiliated that they said something to you and me and you talked on Twitter briefly, and you're seeing some ship about sucking um or whatever all this ship. So I said, I was like, look, Stout said some crazy shift on this show. He was on with you home on the cigar. What he saying? Footnote to you stupid. Anybody could buy a fucking cigar. Niga said some crazy ship and he's like, Yo, he's

a fake nas. However, however, the funk you feel about me, I could give less than the rats ads, honestly put because at the end of the day, I don't fucking see you. You don't fucking see me, and I've been around you a thousand times. Somebody and I can tell you this the way you said what you said here when he wanted to fucking show boat with you, you didn't say that ship when I was in front of him.

And then it took him twenty years that admit how he felt about me, so honestly, fucking put, I don't give a funk about how you fucking feel. I don't care about the Knicks, I don't give a ship about Anheuser Bush. I don't care about Carol's daughter. God bless you. I'm glad you did this. You should be helping more of us in the community. At the end of the day's oh, that's just that's company. He must to mention McDonald's. But he was on your show when he said some

very disrespectful he said, a lot of ships. Watermelon, watermelon, come prot hair and just see you. Though I feel like stout, you know I'm not. I'm not defending it because I had the same conversation from Cormega and at the time, I feel like Cormega, Aisy and you. I probably should have stopped him at certain things, But what the problem was, I had so much beefer stout myself. Yeah, that I was waiting, so I really didn't hear any times different from my point. So you know what, I

apologize to anybody that stopped. But but I'm gonna be honest, like it was about me and Stout reconnected when he was on, because you know, the first person that came to me and felt a certain way about what Stout came wanted. But what he said about me was very angel I don't remember what he said. I'm gonna tell you what he said. Okay, and here's why. Okay, I don't fucking watch blogging, bro, even if it's my brothers

that I loved. I knew you had drink chance if we aren't a blog though, baby were no we got that motherfuck were ringing the mocking money run I'm trying to you on Me and my wife were watching you, and I told my wife, I said, I'm so happy for my nigga because I could see Nori. Let's get back to the David's coming out to the stuff wasn't happen. What do this that was saying along the lines if you asked him something and the nigga was like, fuck

my Gronomo, he's like a fake na. He said, yeah, he said that was a fake NAS that x Ron was a fake. Now I remember, and I was like, this, motherfucker, here's the story. I didn't get too bro. You try to blackbull me because Foxy Brown was sitting on my fucking laugh in a video. But he didn't want to do that, but we took out the video. So that's where I started from. It started from wherever you are, wherever you are video right, Foxy Brown looking at her best, Tom,

don't time out, don't don't clean it up. I don't. I don't need you to clean it up. That's that's I never knew Foxy Brown a day in my fucking life. Brian Leach new Foxy Brown. Brian Leach told Foxy Brown to come to the wherever you at shoot at this time, there's already idiots in the street pitting me a noise against each other, not knowing the NAS is the same niggle when I was seventeen years old texted me from

getting arrested and fucking my freedom being that sacrifice. So I'll never go against nine, even when this fucking wanted the gas at all. So if you're gonna call it a space caller, the space Foxy comes to the video sits on my lap. She don't get an outfit, she don't get makeup. You are as you are. I don't

even know you. And the thing that sticks out the most I remember Elliott Wilson jumped into the limo and interview to and she was like, Mike's like my brother, and in my head I was like, here, no, no disrespect. I love England because we got cool over the years. I love Gad, I love I love her brothers. They are good, fun blah blallo A. Right when she said that, I said to myself, here, I just met you five minutes ago. Why are you sitting me telling this man

that we are like brother and sister. I don't know him, and Mike don't say nothing. I don't like waves, broke. I don't like feeling uncomfortable, bro, even if it's something I don't agree with at that moment, I robbed with it and I was addressed it later, which is why I'm upset of him trying to interject because he don't have to. But she's like a like, She's like, some times you feel like you just be somebody. You just have the same birthday, September four, sex. I love you,

bro sex crazy. She should my last they filmed the video. This is not what I did. I shout out to my major Dallas. They tell me do I'm young, I'm an artist. I don't know them better. I arrivee with I'm at my crib bro campon in Henry Street eighty two. Peper on him line you had like a library where you walk in your lobby boom. He closed my crib at like a ton of flock on a Saturday afternoon while video music boxes on. I'm mine, Pete, I'm mine.

She told me. She's like all the Queensbridge niggas want to tell you up easy and them as mad wrestler is gonna kill your career. I'm like, a bit, what the funk are you talking about? The milk? My girl at the top Milk grabs the phone and she's like, first of all, bit, what you're calling my house at ten o'clock on the Saturday. Who the funk are you? And why are you calling my man? So now I called b J. Since we're gonna go there, I go through the network. But um, brothers, I'm gonna get this

brother just call me talking some crazy reckless ship. NI just want to do this side and the third. I know all y'all from that side of town, bro, and you boy the fall because of him. You got power on his side of town. Because you two is birds of a shovel locked together, nigga. He came out to the little store of the Graveyard Block. He was all right, you feel me like a little shot. Nothing shots? So I'm like, what is going on? What is going on?

I called b J. He called homeboy, big homie, big Homie, makes you cool moment regulating, YadA YadA. They called me back and like a would They're like, you don't worry about none of that. Ship pass forward. DMX wedding. DMX got married in Yon fans we all go, I'm there. Jay's dead, Um Nazas dead, um jaws dead. I fit, I really is that you feel me for all this show? How really is that? Bro? Because I know you know you lived across the street. Now me will I ain't

shut and milk breakout. We go to a club called The System on thirteen Street in the city. Who said that, right? Mr Leak? I'm going to push tell yet last? Yeah, keep going, bro, keep yes, I'm positive we're a drink. We're give a shot, Give a shot. That's an a good sun. You know why. I know that's it if you swop good baby God, let me just say something, bro Let be honest. It's my brother too, But you're the most untold story in hiphop. He really believes he's

Greece and my nigga. Look, he's from Queen's Eye. And I'm saying my nigga flying ship. I knigg could say that, and that's so true, though it's not nobody nobody really knows your history. I don't. I don't want to know your history. That's why we're here. I'm gonna telling you the connotation because Steve Stout was, Okay, let's talk about it so less. I'm about damn that Boom Rule and Milk go to the system Nass did with jump, shout out Jump, my nigga's, shout out Horse, my nigga, shout

out Grand Willows to my nigga. They all the nas got a cowboy at on. I'm not gonna tell it to the fullest extent because I don't have a k okay from the other party, but we talked about it.

I'm I'm gonna say that in a very diplomatic way, and I was very upset because I said, how can the same person who looked out that window and saw the whole one on nine precinct out there trying to arrestle be the same person who's trying to assist in black boiler Because this bitch don't have one what you think she should have on no disrespect, not to use the B word, but I get it, but we don't know. We took about right now, let's throw it out there.

People at def JAM and people behind the firm got upset because when Foxy came to that video, he didn't get, oh, well, we have the viver Wang dress head and we have to make them here to hell. You have to to clothe this ship hit. Whatever the funk it was that was. She just came on as spontaneous. Niggas called you, you showed up on some g ship. You didn't your fun. She was in that scene or not fact, but think somebody else put it anymore. She sits on my lap

right the video comes out. When the video comes out, where's the ticket? Good? Wherever you had, wherever you are whatever? One of my biggest, one of my biggest singles, video comes out. Move More Money is No don't nothing move and I'm so happy radio radio, which that move had the most spin, like I'll never forget Rule being like Nibe. You're getting like Mary J. Blide spins with nothing to move, and Rule had to clean a good as space. What

you alright? Alright now? Alright? Then take a sip A couple later the last sound I'm this and some of the dam is pissed that fox. He doesn't look. Look they go over to at the time. That's a box. That's it was about. It was, it was, it was. It was a channel. Four days, Yes, everybody shot drink, so there was a channel called the Box that you call a program about it? Ye can't just in time. I'm so sorry. You can call the box? He was

the tree. Did your video came on? Apparently Niggas from Death Jam and went to the box and said, yo, don't play Mike Geronimo's video. Who said that about never use black because it labels they were with that vile told me, though, who's told you what? Who's like Hill Niggas is trying to not play which is a former

black ball right there? That is a black baller. And I'm not going to say who who do people were and I know for fucking fat bowling Alley Champ in your crib with the bowling out, I know who the funk it was. There's a bull cham just my beep. I know you know, and I know he knows, and I'm gonna leave it at that. You know, bro, if I know, I'll tell, I know you will alight And he shot there was shout. People actually made me Leo, that's my friend. I've never saying that. It's not was it?

Leo made me feel on to No, Todd. Todd was another good dude when you were and Todd, I mean, there's so many bullying out with guys. Stick to the

shore over that is black boiling. My next project. Second, my second I don't trip at the box because IRV sends me to the box to kind of clean up, to do damage, to control er send me sends me to the box to kind of like be like present yourself, and they're gonna like you so much because you're so much of an honest person that they're gonna find a way even though the powers that be that keep the lights on, that pay the bills told them to do it. Fast forward, we get to the club I've seen home.

I say, yo, bro, the only problem might I have with you is you protecting me from the police from taking me in the cars? Who's doing nash? So the only trable going back to the original story, I was young nas prevented police from arrest of me in front of coldenstro That's no, I understand you ain't listening to the stuff so fast for we in the system said the only reason that we're not added and I don't

wanna right this is in this system. So the only reason we're not ruming around right now is because you're the same nigger that's told that kept me safe from police arresting me. So I don't understand. If you're the same nigga that kept police from arresting me, how can you be the same thing of that sister? And it's okay with niggas that control the wheel saying black bought his career, you know, because I'm not understanding. So you're

trying to say deliberately he heat purposely broken in kids. No, no, no, I'm not saying any brought now is in. I'm saying that the origin of the black ball came because Foxy Brown wasn't with the firm Wanderhood to be in my video. They relayed that ship to who was above that? Are you mad? She didn't look to see I'm not bad at Fox. I'm not. I'm at the video shoot, Nigga. I did time about and that's my baby girl. But it's like they say, come, come, come see meet Mike Geronimo.

But then when you got there, like us, everyone was looking for an excuse because they viewed me a direct competition with Nas. I'm getting back to you. So when niggas think I'm not on the same highway behind them, following when your tail lights, guess what the fuck to get my man father. When they did Belly, you see Nas didn't even go Hype Williams. That was his part when it was on a bit smoking Mike film. That would hype first. Because when we did the video for mass,

I see hype that mass I see. I'm so so hype. That just came back from doing Brandy's video. So let's say the most story. No, it was Super Bowl Sunday. Hype just shot users video. Just think about you. Hype called me in the crib. He's like, what you're doing, That's what I'm watching the Super Bowl Giants, my favorite team. I'm watching the Giants plays like, yeah, we're gonna film a video for m so so alright cool. He's like, yeah, were you were. I was like, I'm upstairs. He's like,

come downstairs. I was like, why is it, I'm downstairs when I came downstad No, no, no, he's just pop Thouse in Jersey. Just Poppy jacked all of Usher's equipment because you know, when you film the video, you got that whole weekend day. He didn't turn the six wheelers in. That's sleeping my house on Colden Street with three eighteen wheel of trucks on the January day, freezing, and because of you, because of what I'm saying, Earth takes that like I don't remember that. Of course I remember that

you told Hyke to come film. I'm so treat which is who does it remember that? Earth? Because Earth's excuse to the public. Here's the last exchange I had with Earth on Instagram. I haven't talked to Earth. The truth be told in person in five years, six years. The nigger Earth said, um, He's like, yo, Mike didn't believe in me. I didn't believe in you. How would you producing these Full Suspects one album two. E told me signed the contract and I should have made my nigga

walk away. Okay, I gotta go to Hey, you guys gonna see nigga. That was the banthom brig. I haven't see how dreams sometime he walked. He walked around the room and talk to before I said, I gotta pick. He wants those schools much. Yeah, this kid telling over the band. I'm a gonna piss. I have a p It's called Pete forever that you're listening to? What little yo?

He goes right to your fair sid He say chat say to Doe say sends to do things about something with the thing sound Yeah, yeah, was right, ste They got to take over more fun dreaming. You were a flush Give me another clock. Let me sell the happens. He had ta say flush want I'm saying, ye should out yo? What yo? Let oh got telling yalla? We got right? Oh? God? What they're want to see? Yah? Good? Do the no? What the first wrong? God, y'all? Some looks, Oh, y'all, father, y'all,

how do you see over this? How was here over there? Brovis? Some take that's not right? What's it what's what another who was saying of another tap to take the battle? You re quarter back a smarter bottle that job man, you dream. You gotta relax. You have a do say it didn't work out? Yeah, let it yo any more year it's finished it. I'll start out in the beer

out of this. It's calling here brom checking day, checking the right with just some wol I want you crazy, Let's go because lets you don't care him a color drug run like you don't. They can try about we still sea. You want to go back? You looks like a cup for right now. He was gonna get out and he wants to get out. The hordes fit get out. He was a nine comes bro hook up, come man cha, man's not hum you don't we get calls? Not really good about thank god? Save ja have any chair with twos?

Look because you know what it is taste for bay Come sit down? Yeah, I see. Unless you say so, say shade and got it, you'll get up. I want to say this song the next segment, none of when everybody's ready to rocking room. I think you're all ready to be recording the guy. I don't like all that protection ship guys guys, guys, real quick, friendly, real quick.

My friends, listen, are you are you hiding him? I'm good, cool, a little boy man check this out as the Miami DJ guy that has nothing to do with all this queen's chemistry going on right here. I just don't tell you guys right here. I feel honored because you guys are part of a legacy of an underground movement in hip hop that you guys like you guys in the majority right here, that started that movement. Yeah, I'm saying

like cats in Miami were peeping game. L A l A comes out, she just real comes out, brother flush comes out. Like you guys are part of this movement that that that moves hip hop in a certain direction. That cats in Miami are peeping game and real quick. And I want to tell you something. When when your cover came out with the Grills, cats in Miami, we're peeping game because we were wearing girls down here and we was like, he's going to the verywhere South Jamaica.

That's a shoutout. Shoutout coach, shout out Steve White. That's what you say. The day when we came out him and we checked in with him, I need to talk about not checking in a little checked in with him, my nigga. I was so comfortable, so beautiful, so beautiful, so comfortable, so beautiful. I was spending on definitely love Miaimi Miami comfortable for on my ball. You know it came out with a Christian album. You came out with a Christian album. Really really gonna believe that I kind

of fine Christian album out. Christie's chappy with you, Joey. Let's just happen to be like everybody's Christian album like Christian, don't I don't got t J. I got d t J with a Christian And don't curse stop playing. No, it's not the guys, not Chris, don't curse. Stop playing that stud I don't try. We never seen this? Wait time, what set back here? What's that? Uh? We did that with Job already? Yeah, I can't even. We did that with Job. We already had Job say you know this

two ways about your family and your dad album. Yeah, let's talking about man like gout that you know eat what's curse? No, don't him he's a Christian? What's gonna be a Christian? He could be a Christian? Curse must Christmas candidate curse. He's he did in front. He's job bushi, my man, that's fine something if I was to pay it for out of my want hair curse. There's no curson, no hardship, there's no questions, no sire and no cigarettes.

It's no minutes I was putting to the scene. You be careful because it feel like I got to making christ Does that get open a little restaurant the pump way out of the streets. I'm living good with my life live switch stop grown man now at forty five. I love my kids serious, that's not the fool want to shut Let's have that did Sorry? Who can you flying back? Lest you guys start from somewhere to get

to somewhere. That's so I'm comfortable with that works like he's keeping me, yes, keeping me a new school, a new coat. But listen, I don't know school all right? Make school is sorry? What the polic doing? Christian Chris? You had the Christian nick so narcy here Poe John Polkapo got some different. He's got a Christian and a gang bag double it's a double CD. It's pretty sorry. Yeah, but you kill a young girls and c that would kill him nightly. CoP's just good at this. He got

a CD with No it's the way it works. Wait, so no, Ponis is not jud he's you're funny. Stop playing stop Scott a father where so he's not the Cuban sign of Cuban mother has a sister named Rina. That fuss with that fuss with. His name is man. This is a long story. Mr Holly christ misbelieva. Mr Holley, your grandfather, They are real. Clue it took me twenty years, makes us first cousin sweaty three and me is not. Just tell me if he's cut it or not. He's Cubans,

definitely you No, he's gone not given. Get that here. I was clearing, dude, like point we've been trying, mom, let me see's the first person I was a muscling to see trying to feed me, Paul. But but it was a time where you got side bars are hilarious. Who you see old green couches in his cris clipsy grain counches. My bedroom ain't gonna lie you go up home, crib. I feel like body right and get inside yead Walter bad wire by the first floor. Y'all. The first player

was trying Green Corp, Green couches. He had a wash in a dry, Yeah, he was true washing quick. Queen's really wanted six serious look at your wants a dry had a fucking walk I look, I said, holy ship, that's true. I'm sorry, sir. You had me. Sir, he's queens rich my life flush him? Why are you asking him? Be you you ask? I think about it. But he really had a washing because I washed my toes because we sid the same clothes. How you watch we are family.

Were the same size. Yeah, not sax size, no mo size. Houked up a lot of things for Flush. It wasn't coming through Queens Ridge at that time. But he's saying, he's saying, no, no, no, I'm just no, I want to keep your head with Yeah, bring back to the because like I ain't a lie. They just from other side of Queens wasn't going to Queen's Bridge of the time. Now we're just holding the Queens because you had family there. We're just going to Queens bribe because you just said

fucking cool. They gott cratch out. He was. Carlush was the originator of Nigga's coming to Queen's Bridge from from Queen that yall, y'all came to waste Lands. That was the first time I met y'all. But I never forget the day my name is, but he the name. So when I when I came to Queensbridge, it was other of our mouths. But I was from Flushing, so Queensbridge was flush because you're from Flushing. So that game is coming. That's where they came. Flush And he's drilling to me.

By the way, ever, whose cracks gonna be? Honest? I man, I had a whole croom, nice black. I mean, I would say I was that. I used to look at Queen's first cracks, the loose, no hold on theys to sell. Yes, it's a dog are you doing? I was like, yo, can I buy twelve old? And I would bring three out of those one the end. That's why the Nicks just like popots. Look at Paul and right now this ship look at you. There's a whole loose. Yeah, guys, get polished. Right now. You got Taos and all that.

He was kind of bus you visit flush in my life, flush life. There's the old crap. It's nothing to do. Yeah, the Niggers heads and and and this ship is like Popo because they was ship, but there's so much competition that they had to do it. My name seventy niggas on one block and everything. They didn't want to ban it up on the gotta that's it. I chopped to write my hand with the razor right out here to bust out like, yeah, you show him to see why Flu, don't do your No, I didn't want to tell you

was coping me. My man, w show it to me. Don't get that funk. No, I didn't say that. Used to watch yourself. People old. I've never been fuck with you like that. Nigga Flu you know, yeah, because flush with a was always a nigger that would make something out of ape, like I swear to God or some real ship. Them days when I did not have an answer and I was like, all this ship is crazy, specially make something that happened at it enough and that's

something back from Pony was hustled from phone. People got that may be okay, make me as phone being my cousins like to bring his shot. Let me just tell you something, my God to go outside poll figure days it sting us to take two hours to get dressed. Oh I just let your wait a minute, well to your gun with this side, because we're going our way handles at this time. How does it take with this? No, listen, out of the round they got the hern's little, he

got the hard timmy. He'll figures his drawers and his SuDS right, but nobody else, seeing his drawers in the side, waiting to two hours to match it, draws in yourself. He's like, I'm gonna take something. Damn. I said, Okay. The mystery to that there's a house, you know, speak just leaking hick horny, but it shot from that from toe and oh yeah, he he he. Every single thing has to full in a correlationship with everything. Look, look look a little she takes fire and the promoter is like,

what the fun is? I'm good, I'm all right. I said, it's all right. It's a family thing. But now I'm clear on it. So you ever thought about trying to make it right with everybody? Or did you ever think about can we not make it right here on greefron I went there. This is what I want to reiterate, like I said, no matter what we've been through, because like I said, what we did changed so many lives outside of ourselves. What is this? People don't understand. Bro.

I would be at to help me smoking and I will see DMX doing it lv, I will see Je doing that Grammys or I will see whatever. And that's enough for me because I know all this ship originated from ships with I don't have to be outside doing this ship. My niggas is taken over the world. So let's be clear. You're claiming that if ships brill wasn't came out, it wouldn't be I'm not saying that. You can still on my drums. Let me let me, let

me be very clear. I need clear jay Z and Ja Rule and DMX or so much of talent that no matter where they would have felt, no matter what, they wouldn't have fell under, and no matter at one time they would have felt, they would have changed the world. That's how great. So I felt about grol at the same token, that's not create history without thinking help. I didn't fill that with you didn't feel it. I don't

need no analogies for that. I was just the bridge that whatever it was that's bigger than all of us chose at that time. But it's not to say that because I'm the breach, that's chosen. I'm greater than anything. I want to say. Great was just saying, I'm just saying I'm zero, Baki fust I go on some real ship. We were just talking about this in the car coming up here. It's very hard for me to acceptate confidence and it's very hard for me to sup being something great.

And I don't know where that came from. I don't know why. It's hard for me to get myself that when I when I do interviews, and I'd be like Nika, hanging out with Michael was like being with Nahs, like my life, My life was comfortable like being with you. I want that, you know, I like it. And then I'm very flush, you know, I'm like, you know right every time y'all, y'all went back and forth, I agree

with you. But when he just said that, I really want you to understand, like, because I said that at the intro, you even looked at me when you changed the course of que Is. At one point it was NAEs and we thought that was it. You know, we had a great one and you know, the bridges old what was all that? And then and then too and then the natural came out and sin is real came out and we felt we felt established against and you have to feel like that, you have you have to Well,

we're gonna make you feel like that today. Let's do one more shot. Let's go trying. Mama, it might never be a minute. My mama, were my shout, you have to talk, please come on. When I was here, you and him, and I remember all four of us being in the lobby of the Auburn, and I remember the day you had on a polo hat like a bucket

and using a lobby too. And I don't even know y'all make it fit, But I remember the joy I felt when I figured out who CNN was this thing that I'm hearing about, and who the nigga is kept hearing about CNN? CNN CNN. I was like, fuck is a CNN. But then and you, in particular, the day I remember, because I remember when I met you, I was like, your this nigger is a big ball of energy. Let's and you so much of a big ball of energy. The world ain't gonna be able to stop. That's just

that's down. So remember the day we old man, and I was like, yo, and you told me that. I told you in the lobby was all of us wait Land niggas. But y'all came over for something. I think he told you crom and you was telling me yo, y'all signed the deal. Y'all was giving me do X, Y and Z and I kept it in the background. And I remember the day that I saw you a video and I was like, okay, l A l al before I said that was it. Let me just tell

you something. I'm just honest with you. This is what they told me when l A l A came on, is that they make Gianna wrote you what this is awesome that prod old videos. I had no props to tell them the movie to left practice, so I was anonymously like no, no, not here, but every shame. I understand she was with that because that's what Prodigy did. Then you kind of did it and it was like I was the third nigger, and it was like I was on the booftop queze Bridge. You can look at that.

I had the twist I had to go fronts on. I really didn't want to be there at all. It's not that I don't want to be there, is that I wanted to represent from mins because I just felt like there were so many people being you know, referenced place that they wasn't from. Like I used to go back to Left Track and it's just like Queens Fridge, I should be shooting that nig windows who like shoot

that my own look, I didn't. But the thing was when I did the l A l A video and I let I let tracks Gass, I was like, yeah, I'm gonna do the part left Frack and I was just like, nah, man, I kind of do a part and Left I just can't. I'm just I'm just just not who I am. Like you know what I'm saying, I'm from left Front. I'm from said with that five from New York one to six eight this like like I did the l A l A video, I was like, wait, so weight, but but you you're killing me right now.

He was the first one my nose prod post myself the same week. Finally, like the product to post a boy for. They'll just take you and make you from anywhary Queen's products. Okay, then you're a second. I appreciate you finished me good, but I didn't want to be the dirt. The dirt. You were dirty. You changed it after that, after that you know, I'm gonna tell us say iraq more and more after that. Look, it's like thirty.

We lost some time, y'all because I was no. I just didn't think I was from Queen's Bridge, because I was not just one of my best friends, and he was from Queens Rising, the Queen the queens Bridge, but that she was so hot the time. But I didn't care. But time I didn't care here normally came out here from Queensbridge. You didn't think. I don't stop stop stop stop. You can't answer. You can't answer that. People like you

that way. Check check But that l l A stop stop stop lights right though, My first impression on that l he's right, how right right l l L. My did not to say that I put it child, let me say it put together. I was with my man Chas Chass Poe Noose who chases bout and no Chasses, and I stood outside the chats played me New York, New York, Big City of dreams. He said, I can't tell if they did to us, And I said, Chad was on something called the DJ list. DJ list, you

get it too much in advance. That's the people that they believe in you. So anyway, I go to Queen's Bridge to Capone's house. Let's be clear. I go to Queens with the phone house Trash to be big up Trash. Trash calls mom think at the time and says, Yo, we're doing a bad boy mixtape. This is when the mixtape. Ship was so mute. That's when that's when pr no I got I got back, so we got the bad Boy mixtape. Let's fresh. Armstrong Trash does call the more. I ain't gonna I don't know who you call, but

we all wind up and stretch off shan. They say, you know what we're gonna do whatever whatever I say, Yo, my man Jazz played me New York, New York. Let's see, so you pull it up. None of us that they're going on at so be clear because like Polder's not sitting there. None of us think that. But we also like, fucking let's just have a response, but we trying to try. That's all listen, that's what we say response just in case.

So we all recorded our verse and pol you stop me if I'm lying at any point, Bro, I take my shoes off because that's how good I feel about it. The ship comes out. The only person that actually said anything remotely about l A was prod of Rest in peace. But he said, JFK on our way to l A. If you don't remember what diverse it is, he said, n y c you and diverse supremacy, Havoca pe queen's niggas. So we're seeing to be beggars. Got word back from Noriega and then he said, JFK on our way to Atla.

By the way, I didn't know how I knew who my name was. I had never met p at that time. I met prod Of, I met Albert, met prod at the time. So he never let you know. He was told in what we were doing. And my lion poem. Listen, come on, don't worry. I cut you roll all learning. So I'll take a little shot. So can't know where that ship drops. The ship drives, the ship drops, everybody is saying, everybody saying new yaw niggas. When at them hold on, hold on, didn't come that we gotta you

gotta set. So then everybody said, look as when that these things right? We don't know, okay, hold on, let me called that wait was he shot? It was the only shot he said jaf k on our where to the left. So that was what he did with what lay it all out, lay it all out poems right here right, So we all lay our versus we don't really understand what's going on. Me and Poem goes to the tun That night, we go to Biggie. You tell me if I'm love. We go to Biggie, he said, Yo,

we went back at these names. Think, he said, went back at who we said. We went back and we went back at you know, you know, just the west coast. He said, well, I ain't cosag and that. We said, yeah, we did it for the bad boy miss tape. He looks at us, tell our face. Tell me if I'm not, he said, well, I'm not gonna use it. At the time, I was a kid, eighteen years old, pig, I don't. I don't understand that. He understands at that time how powerful he is. So we submitted this stretch of strong.

They never used it in my life. It wasn't it wasn't. It wasn't so much some crazy Okay, it's because that means that I'm ill never made it. Bro that was didn't make this. No, but that was everybody's break out song mixtape that was the locks Nigs Don't started song that was I think, well that was Black Rob. Who else was on that mixtape? Everybody that was everybody that's we were all that that was. They chucked us N

six ninety four US stretch of Strong. You forgive me if I'm all, I might have this fact and he'll call us stretch of fun that I noticed record is a hit. He white label. He went to his pops and got I had the white label. He went to the spot he went, he talked about it, talking to that. We got to so the ship drops. We chopped on the Bad Boy too. We were so stoked. We called off. This is our time to be in the bad basine and we called mom. This is the big holies of

the top. We called Duminy come the studio and he was checked our record. He got loud earlier tide to get black way I record. He's gonna reject the record, bastet me. I'm not after the white label noticed a little before the way to big Big listen to hold us. Then on the New York after they already record with you know, wasn't my mind, No, this is I've told him this is what I'm gonna do. And Big said, I thought this bullshit. It's that big Okay, Big Big

smoms like, now I'm not gonna use that ship. And we went in and we did it anyway. It's from many. Did you tell him the cocaine story. Let's go with the cocaine story. I mean, we can't leave this story to come out. Yeah, yeah, sorry, I'll just escape. Kid of Coca Cola hands clothes with the stress. Ship stress goes Yo, it stresses our man. We got all this ship and he says, yo, what do you what do you guys? You know I want to do trass? Did call the mob there? That's that's good tragic backcause we

stood there. Oh wait, can I ask you a quick but yes? Please usually quick, both of you guys. Is it a mob deep record or is it a CNN record? I want to go what you mean? Yes? Because the way it was projected to details because we couldn't cut it. Let me take the spade, you who might have two perspectives but the same same place. I'm gonna let you stop my mom. Whose answer my myain thing was? You know, like,

what was your answer? Give me the simple sim verse we could clear a sample, but who wasn't whose record? That was our records record was right, Let's be clear because you know the white label said, Mom, this is how I did not even just dirt right, But you gotta the first one. You gotta understand a little. This wasn't let this one click question. That's definitely to us. You had d chase who take the record? They were like, who you got on the record? Component don't we ain't

get mom deep? Oh they're gonna hear small deep. So when they played the record, they can black new mom deep set drinking Pomaga. But it can be the other way around. But that's actually because my deep is where they act. They're just gonna say you recorded and put it out? Who's record? That was a record? That was record? Fair? I love this question. By the way, all right he been stretch your call? Uh so it was a DJ

that constructed the record? Always yeah, I'm asking seriously, like, if I put you guys together and get a freestyle chazz play me New York, New York. When we got at the point, I can't believe, I can't habit that bad boy when he used the record habit is brought from coupon, so Capone, don't give him. That happens in the studios. Like me, I'm looking, I'm like, all right, cool, I got damn, I gonna have that pol I look

at these things in jail. I know I know Albert, but I know as an Albert, I know it's different. So I'm looking all right, cool, like all right, cool. When we're here, so we have nothing to pull up, and I said, yo, can y'all pull up New York? New York? And then they pulled it up. When they pulled it up, we couldn't tell if they dissed us or nothing. So all we did was make a response. Breck. None of those verses was dissing other than the fact

that y'all get it. Hey, listen to that, really got that? Because yeah, one of that one, because because listen to the beginning. I gotta go back cover amazing. I'm gonna tell you what because whatever y'all did, unbeknows to you. We we was covering you by the fall. What's covering a big but no, no, but that's another story. That's what we'll get into that the story. But once y'all moved just because you were him, do him it didn't

matter how I felt dope, because he did worldwide. And when he did worldwide, I never freaking On the day I heard the record, I was like, yeah I could. I was definitely called sweet to God. I was like, yeah, why don't you come to my house right now? Just just you don't bring Ruby. I think you to me? Why try to do something different? Right? No, you fucking mind I'm I'm talking about. I'm talking about. No, you you you wanted it. I remember that. I'm good you

wanted and you fucking it own up to it. Once y'all did what you did, he kicked it. No, no, no, no, no, he took it further. He took it further. But what I know about sucking with Doc Holiday figuredively right. Once Doc Holiday followed fights a shot off, what I'm gonna do is winded her. No matter what I feel out of follow his shot, I don't care if it if it's right or wrong, if he was in the right

for doing it. He laid it out there. You remember when we when we was down here and we've seen the door pounding this after no we was doing How did I be down I think you know right? Yeah, he was down here you had a busloaded niggas, and I kind of wasntions right. I wasn't upsettingly. This is

something else that came up on the show. I wasn't mandible because from what Bleek recalls from the story when he told it on Drink Champs, I was like, I could overstand how that's his version of the story based on how he got it. He said, Yo, I had to hide mikel trash. That's not what I happened. And this is all going on simultaneously with you and you choosing to be the forefront of the response. No other niggas in New York wanted to touch that ship with

a ten foot fucking pole. And this is where I give you to credit you. Niggas had fucking bulls because no one president ya crazy, crazy, those bad I'm gonna tell you interesting story involving das in corrupt down here, y'all should do a fucking New York l A l A. Y'all shoot that off. And then he comes back with world one. Motherfucker as the umbrella starts telling me, this is not so flush. There's worldwide and flushes direct. And it was an incident that occurred at TV T with Big?

Is that what made you do? World up? Wait? Wait wait wait incident at tv T with Ben with the no's not ever heard it? Yeah we used here at flush got me all right? Big came up to tea tea one day and Big was far sorry, don't don't talk a little don't right, we don't get that? Wasn't that? He goes got some one you care? We are right everybody out did queens with your noil bags? Who wait? Wait wait wait did you just call queens with conda? Quez was a little conder right now, go get go,

poor two glasses. That's just say you don't get you to come on, listen. He came up to one day care, come on, this is that? Yeah, stop me from it. Came in the DVT. He came up to t v T. But he had the web. What he had the wet fans converted because I remember looking at the ship through the window from t v T. He's trying to get someone to sign the t VT. No, I don't know why he was there to this day. I don't know why he was there in mystery. I remember looking out

the window and he was sucking two twins. The bitches with the wavy long here that was comming. I definitely don't you don't chicken over and to get money videos people. They had a red convertible bands. He comes up to the tv T. I don't know what the nature of the visit is, which already was strange to me. I don't even know why he is dead. Me and Flush is in a lobby. Remind you, like I said, Me and Big got off to a great fucking stuff. I

never forget it. The nigga Big had a Coca Cola can and his right hand and he was in the front dusk of tv T and he seen me come out, and then nigga took the Coca cola can and put it in his left hand on some purpose ship. I'm like, you know what, and the nigga was like, you know what's up? But it was different cocola game, and confused put the Coca cola can. He shaved the nigga's hand with you're writing he took the Coca cola camp It's

just a boy. You not bat enough to the p I kind of looked at Flush like to double check, like note, and I'm looking down like this, get doing something sideways? Ship, I know I fly off the handle. I know I'm an emotional dude. I know I'm not street as everybody shays I should be. And my calling this one the negle flush looks for me and like like that, that's disrespectful. And this is on the hinge of the but he shipped on him in world Wide. It's just a enough flush. Was this and bigger ra

bad enough? You got some old shot who shot and I was and I'm gona I'm gonna say you don't. I was pissed in him because everything that we do, it's not like me and him wouldn't talk about it. And I would always tell him the same ship b j tortment you shoot, I grabbed the whip. I don't have no other choice, my brother. So when he did worldwide, he totally did it on some listen, but it wasn't the other way for me to do it. S l A. I didn't let niggas know from New York. Why do

you step on them? Hundreds? Wait time a time out. This is when you're older. This is going on. So I don't I don't know a few niggas understood. We bought the four we was we was just checking one of defense, like in the event that them niggas wanted would have wanted to turn it up. Keep your mind on queens with the fast. So I was more so he was telling you niggas like, yo, don't fucking me when you left or if you talk about them niggas.

I'm a joke about these niggers. And I'm like, I'm with him because I'm like, yo, bro, I funk with everyone and you didn't. Four warm ye. So now when I see niggas not black, he got black. Listen, we're having a great song you part two. I got my family here. It's all queens thing me. It was like a group and them too music group. That's kind of crazy with all of us over each other like each other back four queens. Let me tell our story a lot, man, but nobody really get the hit Mike story Aline, you

know what I'm saying. I was also awesome real ships. So when when a wide, I kind of felt like that was crazy because I fun with the West Coast thing is when niggas don't know my cousin shout out the ero and shout out to minutes. My cousins in l A was rolling sixties. So when I would go to l A with the first trip I ever took to l A outside of New York City Bro when it was me, Craig Mac and Biggie smarm and we

met that we met the other Biggie Smalls. The nigga who filed the lawsuit that made him change his name to the trophy is br g nig The nigg is this tall. I keep you now, nigga is this tall? And showed up at the club in l A with again, and the nigga was like, oh, I never finished the story about sucking on the club. The the other club with with Pop rolled up. I'm gonna get back to that one because that was real ship boom. So we go out on tour with these niggas and this is

why he did worldwide. And the funniest ship was I noticed they never said a word. And I kept waiting while I was on that tour for them to say something about Rob Meton and I kept saying on myself, you're the minute that these niggas say some disparaging ship about Rob Milks, I'm picking up whatever I have near me and I'm gonna let niggas know don't say nothing about my brother boat and he made the choice he made and I can't take that back, for I wasn't scared of ship, but she wasn't in l a with

us feeling the repercussions of your record and his dad's when we're in front of the show both when you get that night, what when y'all know niggas do pound niggas came? When when's the club? And no, not not win the nigga hit? Now it was club. I picked my company. He was not going to my nigga. That's another story, but that's the ip to you see what j and Big I got on that that was no,

we just keep everything in the perspective. So he already opted to join y'all in a Nobody's gonna talk about my city and about flattening buildings, and I'm gonna be okay with m hm. You niggas were the only niggas with enough courage to confront niggas who was like, Yo, your city means ship. I don't give a funk out nobody slices it. Yeah, And then after you did that, he did worldwide and it was crazy for me as a person because, like I said, I was always five

fifty with everybody. Row I was always cool with everybody, but I already moved if he picked this lane and y'all asserted that lane us. You know I'm in. I'm very happy. One day me and this thing gets in front of the show him right now and that gays and corrupt come out. This is after you did l A l A. And this is in the midst of him doing World War One. And I never met them door pounding us a damn my motherfucking life both. It was just this was does I tell you exactly when

this was? Then when an old dirty got into trouble in the club on the beach, it was there we had a bus full of militantement. Maybe that's that's definitely different year. Okay, right, we got a militantement niggers on Miami. That's fact. We'll get back to them. That was nat Naso. Me and the nigga is in the club and I tell this nigger, I say, hey, the nigga old Dirty did something that ain't right. When niggas just fit to go down, not with us directly, but the umbrella again,

I'll tell you what I said. I'm going to cigarette machine to get a packet of cigarettes. Did I not say that? I said, Yo, I'm going to put my coins in a cigarette machine, get some cigarettes. And then after that we're fit and split because it's gonna go down. And then showing up there's dis guy's blue or hell, bro, I'm happy to make it home money night, my nigga. We get back to the hotel. I'm standing up front of the hotel. Dad's come out. I don't know, Dad,

mind you. I love their music though, bro Niket. Dad's like, Yo, what's salting mine? He right next to me? Can I say that and you not be upset about it? There? My people, they're posing us up. It's okay with you for me to say, and we're all cooled out so we could talk about so the nika Dad's like, what's

salt like? So I'm kind of but just the acknowledge because of the tension at that time, and you're y'all know that tension was so deep you could cut that ship with a knife, bro, for who could cut You could literally cut that tension with a knife and folded the true curtains, the nigga said. The nigga looked at Ramon's like yeah, because I feel like slapping the ship

out of New York nigga right now. And when he said that, said on God during that time after telling me what something like, I kind of looked at the niggle like, yeah, that's kind of felt because you're gonna divide me with my brother and then you're going I feel like slapping the ship out of New York. Ningrain now. I called open the nigga, open on them bottom niggers rolled right on up. A nigga from the bottom came up on him by accident. It was like, hey, who's

up balls? They got no drawers on with some night swinge pants were two nimes and rolled up on this nigga like hey, so this that and like no, no, no, no, man, that's mucky. Plus that ain't dam that ain't damn they they called it's for something else. But long story short, we worked it up. Corrupt calls us two years later to do a record with him. You know not people want to what you love? That's ain't that? Uh forest

brown brown? Obviously what ya I'm just saying that as to say, it's so crazy how none of us really knew what all of us stood. But when y'all niggas moved unbeknooms to you that that that that that that that's right behind Yeah, definitely, definitely, even even even as uncomfortable as as it was for us, and even when Norman as the Earth was like, yo, my ultimate goal is to take the template of death Row and build Murder inc. Around the time I'm seeing that, and with them,

we knew, but we still I didn't know that. We didn't feel like we have move people with us. Last you, how did you go to the bump? Because like, no, I mean, everyone else can't relate to this conversation that I just said. Like, you know, Steve Rimond definitely called us the day before when you're feeling this video that Prodigy does not want to be a bomber? Do you remember that saying that? Yeah, I mean you know, but

then hold on, let me before you say that. But then the next let's say this, Steve called us Friday said any more than hit him up or whatever that it came out with the one of yous gotta stick a sound and we're just feeling this in on Sunday Sunday product read video. Yeah, that's amazing, you know what I mean, Like because yeah, I felt like I felt like not like I felt like at one point, you know what I'm saying, Like, you know, you gotta remember,

were still underdogs. Man, we still you know, this is still still never distance. We're still not pning Norway. Yet we're still not that Like at that point, you know what I'm saying, we're seeing in but we're not sitting into the world yet. We're not. They're not. They don't know it's at CNN. They think, you know what I'm saying, they don't know what's that seeing that? So you know, I think Mart at first, you know, when the record start getting hot, they didn't care whether it said Mob

d feature in CNN or whatever. But when that saw start coming, now I still niggas record. That's still niggas record. That's still niggas recking, all right, So yeah, that's our wrecking that now, you know, that's our record. And then everything transpired from that, you know, versus getting taken off and videos getting shot and things. But at first, you know, I don't think that Mob didn't not have our back.

I just think that they didn't care, like they're just doing a favor for the niggas that's coming up in the hood. That's nap. It was co signing us. You know what I'm saying, we've seen you. They just pushed the button. And I know for me personally, I was just like, you never pushed the button. Let me just tell you my yeah, it's real. Ship like we just put the record out to answer them. Yeah, it was

so they kicked down the buildings. When they kicked out the buildings, that's where we made a video to react. It was just too practice to snoop off the bridge. You know what I'm saying, like, oh, I know is when she wants y'all. But I saw him. Yeah. But but here's the real reality, little bit. They did a record. We didn't know if it was killing, if it was coming at us, and we did a record it was coming out. It was just that first I need to get first, take what body you ask get his verse?

Take it off. Tupap win that all of us and the only person he win that was things got six and it was pe. So the next day, because we got the call on Friday, Saturdays told to take it off Sunday, we said that the product, he would not pake the video, and all of a sudden he paid the video. She and it's kind of crazy. He can

tell you. I felt very awkward based on everything we had taught prior to this point, because because of the worldwide No, not even that, but yeah, my family l a. I mean a creep back video that wasn't me, that was ain't young with Vie had a kerry Max held my favor. Yeah, I was there, ain't for me? Stop now, Mike, Mike, look, Mike, you talk one of Ellis moments for me. I'm umped off. I'm the davil So train comes on, Mike, youandhim on fig P Danny who who comes on door? Or guinea pots?

Flies small? I look like my fair name was Dad? You turn yourself for good? Do you remember watching on the night before you turn yourself on? You don't watch you? M I brought you home and my man case brought you home. Where was me at? The niggas was in the plating and you ended up fighting with niggas across that. I got the fellin of stamps night and the nigga grabbed the candles. Stay. That was about the steps tonight.

I gotta split in the hand right here from that night, he ship if when we saw you fighting and he just went on this side of the clothes and he was a balcony and the plate and has stressed over to the augus side. Yeah, I saw the nigga talk. I saw the nigga grabbed the candle stick. Yeah, me and him and I think it was Windy and Booby and my man Case Song. We went down the stairs, went under the ship and went up the stages to where y'all word and y'all was brought with niggas. I

don't even know who the niggas was. Yeah, I don't know. Me and my man Case Song took you and and we dropped you off in the pj's in Queensbridge. You told me you was going in the next day. I never forget that. That might have been a little wait longer than after that, Like y'all n just had mad extensions though I was probably definitely supposed to go back, and me and my man Case we drove y'all back to the bridge, and my Man Case Songs being that

had mass mashboxes and yeah, I never forget it. And y'all nigga's was tight with each other because of whatever happened at the front. You and him was arguing in the back of the but we dropped you all off pure and that and that was the day that I was like baby because God damns, y'all was thumping with

some nigga. Nigga that's how, that's how we do. And I never forget because I remember watching you niggas fight and I was like, damn niggas fighting a lot of niggas, but they right now trying to give it to niggas. And then I remember seeing picked up the candles. Think it was black. It was like six ft seven ft. It was a tall black like prop that was in the play. And he didn't swing it at you for you.

He swung it as somebody with you. And once he swung it, we always on the opposite side of the club, but we saw y'all fight you from the basket and we ran down. We ran to the opperside. By the time we got to the other side of where y'all was already did whatever you was do. You just on time these pictures about pictures. Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs hosted by Yours truly, d J E f N and n O R E. Please

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