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Episode 208 w/ Antonio Brown

Apr 24, 20201 hr 5 min
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N.O.R.E. & DJ EFN are the Drink Champs. On today’s episode we chop it up with 7 time Pro Bowler, and 4x First-Team All Pro, Antonio Brown. Recently named to the NFL‘s 2010 All Decade Team, the current Free Agent Wide Receiver has played for the Pittsburgh Steelers, Oakland Raiders and New England Patriots.

AB shares his football journey from growing up in Miami and being heavily involved in the city’s football programs. AB shares how he stays in elite shape, the responsibilities that come with being a mentor, working with Tom Brady and starting a career in music.

AB and The Champs discuss topics such as CTE, concussions, thoughts on Stephen A Smith and potentially working with Lamar Jackson.

Antonio Brown also shares how he controls the chaos while being on the field, showing accountability for his mistakes and much more!

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And it's Drink Chas motherfucking podcast. He's a legendary queen's rapper. He's agreed, is your boy in o R. He's a Miami hipp hop pioneer. Up is d J e fn Together they drinking up with some of the biggest players in the most professional unprofessional podcast. And your number one sort for drunk drink Mother is New Year's Ease time for drink Champs. Drink Up Mother, Mother? Would it could be hopefully this would it should be? This is your boy and oh R? What up is d J e

f F And this is motherfucking drink Champs. Yeppa will make something. We talk about ultimate athlete, you talked about pro pro athlete, you talk about you know, all star, all of motherfucker accolades. We talked about why I receive a number one in the game. In my opinion, I can't believe he not in this year. But I feel like him and Tom gonna reconnect and they're going to the West Coast. I'm not sure. I'm not sure, but

it feels like that to me. The man has constantly, he has said that he would not be like, you know, one of these regular players. You know he's gonna, you know, own a team when he finishes. That's who he looks at. He's not trying to be a podcaster. LL be talking behind and talk like that. He's a ball and bigger than that. He is born and Lime team home home team. In case you don't now, a b is no secret.

Like you know, we've been in the news lately. Um. But on a great note, we've seen that you proposed to your lady today. Was that today? Yeah, yeah, today. Let's make some noise for that. That's a beautiful thing right there. That's a beautiful thing, man. Um. So I see even the Richard mail here looking great, you're here

looking great. So so um, okay, let's describe. Let's describe all the Patriots, right because we all know when you went to the Patriots, we don't we understand your relationship with Tom Brady and and you know what happened this year in your opinion for our fans, what do you

think happened this year? I just think you know, whatever went down, Mr Kraft when they were to support it at the time and the time of the state they was in, so they did it was best for the team, and and you think it was a social media thing like the Twitter ran pressure wasn't because yeah, because like they'd be trying to like build perfect football players over there, right. I mean I don't know what it the band, but you know, I know they did that, and you know

I could have helped them last season. So of course that that was like my next question, like a person is so dominant on the field, like like you you you you you that boy? Like when it comes to that, but how does is it an organization organization like the Patriots? Who would who would step back? Or is it because you were still on the contract, because I'm sure anybody else would have picked you up, but it was because people scared like to like cross the Patriots or something

like that. Or Okay, so what's your favorite team you played for? The favorite one? I think the Pageot was a favorite, Kay? But what's all the teams? Though? It's just for anybody who doesn't know what all the teams you play for? Just really still is you didn't play for? Oh? Yeah, you know you don't consider that wasn't it was the Hard Knock Lives. Yeah he was on there, he was he was catching ball all that, Like you know what I mean, do you think they do you think that

it's a part of and me being black. So I want to I want to be very cautious, like you're a strong black man, You're a man that represents power. Do you think that that's a problem when it comes to you because you know most of the time you're outspoken? Do you think do you think that like that's the reason why I like absolutely. You know, a football is a team sport. You know, a team game show. You gotta fall down the team policies and not kind of

be an outcast. And some attention goes seem like an outcast. So you know that's not what they're trying to represent, right right right when I seal to make some noise for that, now, holy because you got they got a whole long history. Man. But let me get to your record right now. I wanna tell you something. I don't get a radio station. I went on and I big your record up. I said that record is record is hard. And then I went on, up the record is hard.

That Joe but said, I gotta relax, Joe. And I said, Joe, but you gotta relax. But let me just tell you something. Every you wasn't so much of a dominant football player. I think that people I think that that that's like there there's some people I sit back, say, you can't be that great in two different films. That's what I think. That's your problem is you're you're battling your own greatness. You think that's the case. I mean, you just gotta

be the best at whatever you do. Um, I mean you've been the o G in the game for a long time. Yes, it's right, that's just right. That's it wasn't for me now, yeah, so bad. Now, the why would receive a position that is like like one of the most elite just as you are. You're the guy that's going to catch the hell marry you, the guy that's gonna go out there deep. You the guy that

the defenders you gotta smoke at them. How how how hard is that to maintain like maintain far as physically, Like when I when I asked Floyd maybewhether like he was like he was like he um, he wanted to avoid ring ross. So what are some what are some things that you do that that training? One training stick with the to stay high high like we're our receiver, yeah, or just being able to run uh full speed distance.

You know. Now they got like GPS trackers where they could tell like the top speed, how fast you go over twelve miles an hour? Legit right now, legit on how long your host speed, So they get the details for the whole. What do you think of like the new league? You think the new league is kind of softened than than with like Walter pay In and like you know, like like like think, I think it's smarter. Back in the days guys get close line their heads

still line up, play god, break a figure out. I think it's more there's times and more recovery, more treatment and more stuff. They keep guys healthy. What is the concussions that they set You have ever experienced that, Like you ever got hit hard? I mean I'm sure he got hit wow wow. But you ever felt like memory loss? Like what's your stance on that whole movement on the CTV man. You know, as a football player, you know, you don't sign up the player regular game, so they

fortunate for me. You know, I've been blessed to the point where I haven't lost any memory or but you completely believe in the whole the whole science and what they're saying right now, they gotta be you know, playing football, you know, you gotta be able to control chaos, you know, knowing someone someone trying to talk to you or hit you, or you having to hit someone to talk to someone.

So you gotta be able to control that chaos. Like if someone's trying to guard you, like a Richard Sherman or something like that, like do you do talk to them and then get them out of the game or you just you just just small look at look at and now I mean you're a bad boy. You're a bad man on that. So like, isn't anybody who trying to do that to you? Tell you, man, yo, you ain't. You ain't getting this this amount of yardists today, you ain't getting these amount of catches and stuff like that.

Is that people who trying to ever bully you? Yeah, Jayalen Ramsey, a good corner will try to you know's not getting your head a little bit? Yeah, what type of things he's saying, like, Oh, he's just ain't gonna you know, I mean, he just you know, you know, you got a big matchup planning just me. So he's just giving off the wrong attention instead of being focused on the game. He's more letting his motion be focused on the players, So just letting the play be to play.

You know, that's that's really how cool were you and Tom Brady That there's a rumor that when you was in Boston he wanted you to stay in his house. Like how cool? What is that is that? Because your chemistry on the court? Oh, y'all been cool before that. We've been cool really before that. And you know the

MT you understanding hardwork. You know, Tom is a simplifier with a guy who you know, worked his way to the top and continue to set that presidents of still being a you know, high athlete and working still hard. So and this is rumors because this rumors that like he calls practice like three o'clock in the morning and she's like that like on the beaches and she's like that he himself, yeah, like yeah, this room was. Now he's a perfecional. You know, he worked out the game

and uh for the time. And now do you ever think about him and Bill Belichick like separated because like no one has never seen that, right, Like we have never seen that. And it was like the quote unquote like team like supposed to be they always played together. He was always I mean ever since I knew right, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

So what do you think about them separated? I mean, if that would be the case, you know, it would be exciting to see, you know, as a competitor as a player, you always you know, as a as a teammate,

as a coach. You know, everyone says depend on everyone, So it's always amazing to see everyone has individuals assess collected lists and see how they do us severally because one of the reasons I asked, right, is like when you was at the Steelers, right, and then Roethlisberg, we understand that there was a little bit of discrepancies with y'all and then everyone from all the screpacies, everyone tried to blame it on race, Like everyone was like, oh, you know, whether it was race or your part of

race or his part. But didn't you see the great commomy with you and Tom um Brady and it offsets that. But what was what was the screpacies with Rothersburg? Now, I think it was just a misunderstanding. Man. Materburger had a great time, you know, uh playing football, great relationships and memories and moments. Yeah, but I just think as

a competitor as an athlete. Um, you get older and you go through so much as an individual, and you don't really get to communicate with the quarterback in regards of everything. You're thinking of what went on for that year. So I just think, you know, I did kind of the same thing that Ben did. You know, went to blame that other people for my problems instead of you know, just taking responsibility and getting them done. So shout out to Batman. We broke a lot of records together. Man.

Of something you just said you said earlier, it's a team sport. Yeah, that for people that's coming from the hood, right, people that come from the same background as you. Background is East and they're coming from the hood, and but their all mentality is it's me, let me do me, let me do me. How do you go from do me to just saying that, like, you know, recognizing as a team sport and you got to participate in that. Yeah, well you need to you know, collectively, you know, you

need you know, it's not like you're a rapper. You go in there and you do yourself. You know, you gotta the old line, gotta block the guy perfect for the quarterback to get you the ball, a lot of things that gott to happen that transpired to help your success. So it's it's collectively together. You know, the quarterback and third you know, everybody's gotta be every gotta be in sink. And then a football team is like sixty players, right,

that's just crazy. Defense teams, you got the coaching staff. Then you've got the coaches, Like, is it hard to be able to deal with those eagles? This? I can imagine. That's like going back to school, Like you know how you went to school. You went to school in Norwood, right, what was it nor right? But that's not literalty city.

There's that I might be guarding. Okay, So so I imagine like when you went there, didn't feel like that, like you had to start on over when you get to a team because there's so many people you gotta meet. I just feel like, you know, a game so specially you know, they bring a lot of people from all over areas collectively together. You know something, specially when you got you know, fifty six guys all committed to winning, no matter what they found them out of that race.

They just come together for the great cause of winning. And uh, that's something specially to be a part of. Let's make some noise for that guy. Damn, I don't see take on Stephen A Smith and first take it like what's going on? I think I think he said a lot of stuff that you know, you think he's a boast all a little bit. Let can throw that out there because he's a little it's a little now,

he's a smart guy. He contradict what he said, Like sometimes he may say something but he no, he may not believe it a little buy so sometimes you contradict itself and what he specifically be like stay off the weed, say off the weed. But then he has snooped dogs on the next episode, like when are you talking about? But this is a new just keeps everybody on the weed, including the football players. Tell him, let me throw that out there. But so, yeah, you feel that up that

way about Stephen? How about Max color Man? You a Max I. You don't really have no problem with no one in the media. Man. I know this guy's got to do that job. Sometimes they can say things about me that that may not be ideal, but they gotta do it. You know, that's their job, you know they You know, I don't take a pressure. No. I know, it's a part of the game, being judged and having people talk about you. But sometimes people say some stuff that just off the And the crazy thing is, um,

no one can ever complain about your performance. No one can't say you don't come on any any team you've you've gone to, You've elevated those teams. So I mean, I know you probably can't say, but this this other than Corona Corona sucking us up. You blame coronavirus. And I'm just saying, like right now, like because the season would have been a spring break right now, you're talking about the spring training like like something like that, right,

like I'm far off. Yeah, yeah, because they would just like they would just saw me. I heard that they canceled some me and Roger cadell As they canceled me. Is you think you think that ship is real? Um? Like the Corona. I mean, I'm I'm honest, like I'm out here because I was on that ship. He definitely know nothing. I don't know, but you think like you

think that's what do you think? Yeah? Man's crazy, bre So you just gotta take yourself all the time, you know, you know, it's a it's an academic strapping up mean something else right now up same time that you think that though you think this is a real epidemical, this is some ship that they bought their sucking with us. It's a little bit of blow. We'll see what happening. You can't be too careful. I'm gonna do it. I'm

gonna do a little more. What I'm gonna do a little bit more, A little more literally literally little little so how hard because you know you got you get to see Uncle Luke, right, Uncle Luke with his his program. Man. I believe he's in Liberty City as well. And like when it comes to Florida, this is like a football state. Like if a kid is coming up, Uh, you're coming on from New York, your dreams to be a rapper,

a basketball player, You're coming up in Florida. I imagine trick has changed the people from wanting to be a rapper and wanting to be a ballplayer. Like you. I believe we're always the sinks from from out here to a lot of las from out of Miami. You am also, how is it for a kid coming from Miami to um what what advice would you would you give them? I'm asking a kid coming out of Miami, coming out of Miami, well, just have a plane, you know, not

not be distracted by your environment. You know, work car have a plan and uh stick to that plan and make sure you be successful. And how important were the programs in the school using like the coaches, like the instrumental or you feel like I played for Gwen Cherry like like ninety ten years. I mean, you just got to be a strong individual because you know, but you had good coaches in high school neighborhoods. You know, it's

in the middle of Scott projects. But some of the best programs and some of these schools, yeah, some of them. I mean it's all about the player. You know, nobody program. You know, if you've got gold, you want to make it. You want to go somewhere. You'll be driven by that. You know, these opportunities all over here with football clubs everywhere. Now Balls, in the beginning of the Balls, they show you that's you working out. Did they cut you a chap, like, yeah, okay,

I gotta make a look back. I obviously have never played in the league, but for me as an outside of looking and I think Balls is like the closest thing to it, like enteropreage. I don't know if you ever watched Entourage, but Entoife was close to the music industry, close to the Uh you do you watch Bowlers at all? No? I I watched a little bit of it, but I don't think they really portrayed like the real Oh really,

you don't think spent too much to Hollywood. How about when they meet with the like the exactly the fake Rogerdells and the dude from the Dallas Cowboys his name, Um, they're mak gonna fake Jerry Jones or there. You ain't never see that ship. Yeah, I mean yeah, Like I've been thinking they're giving up secrets and like that. So I'm sucked up. Let me get that out of my head. Yeah, cool, cause I was gas. Let's make some noise for that. Give me that out of man, man, so man, so again.

I want to reiterate how seven time Pro Bowl, God damn seven times? What's the Pro Bowl that's in Hawaii? Right? Yeah? You know Orlando now, but for wow, wow, got that for a time. First time all pro Jesus, my dude, Jesus producing numbers. Cheese the wise popa cheese man, and we're gonna, We're gonna, We're gonna, We're going. We're going back this year, buddy, and I got my chance ship. Look, let's how think your ship is looking like? Niggas don't got no fa This les me having one cheeks like

a textbook encyclopedia, little cyclopedia. But I gotta do some stunning, which is dreamt dream chan Sports and be on the dream Chance Sports. Going on. Respect, you can talk, you can use to jump on the mic. I hate to do this, but coming from Central Michigan and your in your college years when you first made it to the NFL, your first year in the NFL you did what they called Sam Consell and the NBA, you went into the

Super Bowl in your first year. How is that experience coming from a college level, automatically in the big game, This is amazing experience. You know, that's every kid go. You know they're being the biggest game in the world and be playing and how the opportunity to live out the dream. Obviously, uh luckily we didn't win, so yeah, it was just an experience, but you just realized how

hard it is to get there. I mean, you remember every moment of being there, and uh does every guy go as an athlete to be able to win the biggest game in the world. It is one of the best experiences as a as a young athlete. But let's say you also as a rookie, you had the most recessions in your position because not only do you did white receiver, you did punt return. So which one do

you like better? White receiver appoint returner? Thank you. I mean, I didn't want to any opportunity on the field and get the ball man. Special teams don't get anything any trying to call you. You've never did a quarterback play. You never did one of those trickers. Yeah, I did trip out to a touchdown, you got a touchdown. Yeah, your quarterback experience. You can play ball too, But that's that's what you call it. I don't know. I don't know.

It's gonna say every football as you thinking play basketball too. Basketball. They always like Mike I went to his career. He was he was trying to play me a ball so much. I said, Mike, gonna relax play because I didn't want to football. Play to had that on me. You should have played. You should have attested that I didn't want to and I had on jeans two. I said, you know what, because you know that could have been you know, you're playing for fun, but they're never playing for fun.

They want to be like I'm about your ask motherfucker, so you know what I mean? But did you go did you did you play high schoolball? Basketball? Football? Only football? Ontball? Do you think you could have made it in ball if you really? Uh that? Damn? I'm just looking at your motherfucking shit. Man. This is just remark. If you want to read some of this ship that knows it all some of that. Ask you a question when you had to make the move out of Pittsburgh, did you

know you were going to open? Is that phone call coming to you or is it just like an agent? And that was that was when they moved to l A. Right when they moved back to l A. No, that was still it was still always say, Okland, I'm thinking the same thing I knew when I was leaving the team. You know, I knew h Oakland read has had a lot of fresh round picks and they needed a receiver, so I knew it would have been a good possibility in me landing there. You know, the Dolphins were loving

Come on, man, you went with the Dolphins. Can I make that call for it? What's the what you want to make the actual call? No? No, no, no no. Since your home team, we always respect everybody, whether the Dophins quarterback more school right now, the quarterback is Fitzpatrick here from the Jets, right, Holy moly, and man, who the Jets got that? Just you know, Larry Larry David just made a whole episode about like they killing themselves because of the Jets. Hurt me hard, hurt me, hurt me. Yes,

he made an episode the Jets. Motherfucker killed the poncles of the Jets. What do you mean because they lost episode on an episode he said, this is how bad as it's being a Jets fan, Like you know what I'm saying, Like coming from New York, that's not worse than Miami. No, no, Miami is worse than the Jets a bit because because we got your leftovers, we got Fitzpatrick. But he's the Fits magic because he's doing he's doing

his job. But we but Miami has been known to bring back athletes to have a little controversy and you're not you're not shot from that. But we respect that gangster because you from from the crib. Yeah, we love in Miami, even when you have blonde hair, even when you got a concussion against the Bengals, even when you

went to UH. I hated you when you went to whatever if you know, but I respect but respect your business and I respect you got and when they didn't sign you and you went you, you, you appealed and you and you were gonna go play for the other league. But then now you're like waiting and we're waiting and I'm and I'm throwing the I'm going a little Havana and I'm throwing the chickens in the bag because we

leave you in Miami. Man, Bro don't know that part leading to that question, because I know you probably can't check in. Is it have to be a chemistry between the quarterback or like like because it's like I'll give your instance, right me and for real, like that's my boy, like in the studio, me and for real, we have all the chemistry in the world. But to tell you the truth, we have nothing in personal in common at all. Like you have chemistry in the studio, the chemistry in

our studio. So that's all that matters. But that's all that matters in the field I'm imagining. Have you ever worked with a quarterback who like on the field it was it was a super chemistry, but off the field you have nothing in common. Dry I mean, you know they have a good quarterback and receiver chemistry. You gotta have a relationship off the field, and you gotta work out there on the field as well. So being having a good combo come from both sides, you know, working

at it and being there the co exist. And it is that consists with like going out to e yeah, any little thing to break breads on the heat at the moment. You know, you guys have that camarade. Yeah, ready to go, like you're going double dates and ship like like that, like you know what I mean, like you gotta bring do theories. Well, I see you got a nice watch game. Every time I see the last time I see you bell on your on your Richard

meal that that is? Is that one of these watching and you known got one of those holl got there watch like that? So is that something you enter you into jewelry keeping up? Now? I just got one nice one, you know, I just just on one nice one and you put up in the Lamborghini too. Let's make annoying for that. We live in your life. Goddamn, we live in our life. Man. So what's next? Man, what's next?

You're gonna act what we're gonna do. We're gonna besides going back to the league and winning this chip this year, that's what you know? All next year wherever we get back, were Corona freak. But besides all that, what's what's next for that? Like, besides sports? You know, take care of the family. My man, Chico helped me, you know, cook some new new word, you know, hopefully get no young Yeah, yeah,

no problem, no problem, get back you're serious about rapping? Yeah? Okay, So you gotta tell us who are your favorite m sees? I got a couple of favorite but you know, this is a drink CHAMPI show. I don't want to make nobody. Who are some of the ones you're feeling like someone that are old and some of the new guys? What don't matter? What I don't really want to talk about. Man, you heard no, I'm here annoying man, So good shot shots because we know, we know you ain't drinking. But

let me just tell you something. Our show is about celebrating people's careers. Man, and you know. Over here, that's what we're gonna do. Over here. We're gonna celebrate your We're gonna get it into a little bit of your knowledge. But that's what it's all about. It's all about begging you up. You know what I'm saying. In this life, so many people they want to kick you out, you know, when you get to a certain level, when you reach a certain status, and they don't want to appreciate you.

We want to appreciate you while you here, get your flowers while you're here. We don't want anything to happen and be like, oh man, how much of a great person he is. We want to say that now in your face and your flesh, because we gotta start doing that. We gotta make this more popular, will be bigger people. I'm whatever shot I do, so I don't even do a batty shot. I never had that. I've never had that. He had bellies before. I feel like this's bilk evolve somewhere.

I'm good, Okay, I don't don't do thet you just say you want, but I'm gonna taking out for you. So give me the other. The other non broken. This is a broken milking ball. It's how you know you're a smooth nigga when you drinking. Give me no, no, give me the glass, bro, just my two. You gotta okay quality. I like that too. We got the house and back we got the house. I'm good. But we're gonna do this to the baddest wide receiver and the

motherfucking gang. These motherfucker's been buying him for years. Still in his moves, Jack Shawl, you know, taking his style. That's the that's the homie. Because I remember watching you on I think Labron James, the Understood. It under spits the name of what's called the shop now it's called shot and they change it. Say so and how what member we're talking about, like, you know, the NFL and how how you felt like it was different. It's a

totally different feeling nowadays. I just think, you know, you gotta just change your out look. You know, you're out look to any circumstances negative and your action is gonna you know, falling suit. So I think for me at that time, you know, coming off a season, you could you know, still carry season frustrations. But you know, NFL is a great opportunity man, giving guys an opportunity to their dreams, make manajing dollars and live out amazing career

show for me. You know, I'm just decorrdy to get the opportunity back and uh show people what I could do. That's what's man, that's what you think. You think social media is like overrated at this point, Like someone like you can someone can say something on social media and they're just blow up out the way, like you know what Kevin Heart went through with. Look what they did with with the Mayweather ship. Dude, you ain't see where they edited. They made him spell go wrong and they

made him look crazy and people believe in it. And then my reaction is not that reaction, No, no, no, show my reaction like, oh no, no react. You said I wasn't ready, But you say that for a lot of things. No, no, but that was a totally different reaction. That was so foul when right now, man, you could be framed. It swung the wrong way up. I made fun us. Yeah, it's a crazy time, we ain't. You just gotta be careful. It's great. We had Little Wayne on the show, a little Wayne when I did and

they said he snipped coat. Now he went down for a second for something like he went to blow the as and they and they sort that happened snorting and they said he did coke. And then the thing is, if we addressed that one thing, we gotta address everything. So we gotta sit back and just let people like someone attack us. So, I mean social media is just like it's its own thing. Yeah, it's doing it. It's yeah, it's just a constantrol. You know, reciprocated has never donated.

So now something intend. You've got people sharing in that, you know, in their lives and when they want them to be. So they're looking at others as living the lives that they want and use the cars. Trying to describe that, trying to clown on for points. So you know you signed to you or you signed to a lady, y'all signed myself? Okay, you got distribution? Yeah? Who? You

got distributions? Video? Who? No video? The video They sound rich, I don't know, but they sound just make some noise for them sound so so so, So you're gonna you're gonna do a full fledged album. This is not just a couple of singling that right now, but okay, put something together. How about artists you're gonna sign a couple of artists like you gotta sign City, gonna do check it back to Miami. You got Kareem from our career. You do a video for you right standing right there,

so so coming from Miami. Yeah, seeing the movement, uh you know a trick daddy and didn't seeing it, you know, a trina and then you can just see Rick Ross and then now it's trickling. Now you get to see Kodak Black. Even though what Kodak Black is going through, did you ever see like because because like to me, Kodak Black was one of the biggest He could have been the biggest you ever seen. You ever saw that

coming from him. I mean, you know, it's just it's just like individuals like individuals, you know, people people make decisions and put theirself in situation, you know. But you know, so many guys in Miami rappers are talent. It just you know, who lasts the longest. What was your favorite year in football that you played? What you're still looking for? Okay, okay? What was what was your favorite of the past. It had to be with Paul up that first Up Bowl.

Now I think your fucky year man just coming in the game. You're trying to get your feet wet. You're learning new city, you know, new teammates. Now isn't really like rookie hasting, Like do they really mess with the rookies like like fresh you hate hazy? Yeah, and I understood to slow it down and the pastor is a lot worse than what when it happens now. I mean, you're from Liberty, ceas gonna play with you like right, A lot of things are gonna play with you like that.

But I'm sure they with other rookies and ship like that. I mean, I mean just normal stuff. Nothing to the point where the violation is just to build KARATEI to make the team together, right, because that's because it's a real Gladia sport. It's a real gladiator sports. So like they gotta keep y'all, like I think you said earlier, organized violence. They gotta keep y'all hungry, but then still keep y'all civilized at the same time. And it's like

it's like like up in the air. It's like up in the air, but ship man, because you get to see, like I get to see like people, Oh J is giving like good advice on Twitter at this point. Yeah, that's crazy, right, Hey, y'all, don't see old. Now. He's going in like if nothing ever happened, even good black advice. So I'm looking at it. I'm just like, I can't believe I'm taking this old like old. They're like, man, listen, these people shouldn't be doing that. And I'm like, Yo,

is going in going man like, this is real? Man ship is real out on the field man on yeah for sure. Okay, okay, and Instagram? You with Facebook Facebook in here, right, pick him right, instrap Instagram. That's the same brothers right, none of this is it is Facebook Instagram. It's like universal depth jam in the scope. I'm saying, right, cut the check out the same, cut the check And last time I seen she was in colleague career. You had a camera cool with you and everything was That's

something that that was. It looked like he was feeling a documentary. I couldn't tell. Yeah. Yeah, we've been working on a document so we've been Yeah, not no thirty for dirty, this is dirty for yet. But you know, I think we need more of that, us telling our own stories. You know. That's why Straight out of Confidence one of the gillest movies out. It's them telling yourself. I think you're telling your own story, your own documentary where you narrating, and I think that's genius or maybe

Samuel Jackson um um and what's that you called and narrating? Yeah? Is that what it is? It's about it's your documentary about you? Is that? Is that what it is? Yeah? Yeah, what's the name of it? You can't? Okay, cool cul is No, we don't. Yeah, but I think that's dope, man. I think that's Have you ever watched the thirty for thirties? Though some of them I sad? Just auto biography is always motivation to see what people fell short of what

they did was and learn from all. Right, Well, what was endorsement deals that you you you wanted to participate in? I mean endorsement? Yeah, man, I had a couple of deal a lot of deal to cool. Uh is this something more you want to get into or no? I mean not right now? What is it? Like? An endorsement that's just somebody just like I mean, you want to just get in the ownership man that you don't even want to be endorsing your own ship then paying you

the rocket man, you just being the supporter. Yeah, that's yeah, you want to hire somebody else endorses what you're doing. You want to have that empower. So they got a clothing line of something you're working on too as well. No, no, we're just freelancing with the drops. You know a lot of frameworre phrase words as we use shirts, but none to no closing in his am actually some random football clustes. Um, what's my man? That's on the bottom all um on

the quarterback? Jest, Yeah, what do you think about him? He? That boy? That boy? Would you go to bottom? Are? We'll see I can see that in Pomino. Wait, no pomping on. Tell you man that we got it. Man got it. Damn I could see that chemistry right there. Now. You you were drafted six in two thousand ten for Lamar Jassy was drafted last. Like he nobody picked him up.

Now he was first round just last. It wasn't it wasn't like within those but as when you got that call, that's unexpected to right, there's no way that you know when you're getting drafted, I just call you. So it was well deserved. You felt that you earned that right to be drafted six and and congratulations, But how did you feel about that when when they made the name that call go to the NFL shout, I can answer

that question. I'm static the NFL because you're like literally changes overnight, right right, And and you see these student athletes now when you see when you see that, and you see these documentaries with these kids, and even just now they didn't they actually didn't want to shut this game down that was taking place today and it was like the last moment they actually tried to play the game without the fans and then they slurt it down.

But what do you think about that? As the student they call them student athletes, But yeah, you know, I mean, I mean, as an athlete, you shouldn't just be prohibited or limited to the opportunities of a lifestyle to be be creative and you know, be evolving. You know, you know everyone could do multi skills. If they can't, you know, let them do it. So was more free range to you know, be more creatives, you know, take advantage of

more business, get better deals. But what what I guess the point I'm trying to make is like right now with the thing the epidemic going on, they still try to keep the games going. If these athletes hurt themselves. Their life is over. These these these guys that you know onlyse on on quote tournaments, but all these things, they will go on and be straight and they'll be ten other kids after that. How do you feel because it may it almost made me feel like they treated

them like product as opposed to people. And that's that's that's that's a sad part. But you know that's the that the world. Yeah, you know that sports. Yeah, I'm about to say that's the way sports feels in general. Man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought after you make a certain amount of money, I mean, look, what I was gonna ask you is like, do you think the NFL opens up the doors and opportunities for these players to end up being owners and being coaches? Is there enough of that? Like, like is

there a lane for that? It seems like there isn't, But I don't know, I'm not inside. You just gotta keep paving the way, man, with creative guys that you know, tap into the institution and just to make it for better for guy's coming coming behind. Like like when I seen you on le Bronze Show and you spoke about being an owner, was that something that you would go into being with Lebron on Like Lebron said, Yo, let's go by the Pistons. So let's go by you know

what I'm saying. There's just something you you'll get down with, like another act. Yeah, I think that's a smart movie. I think. I think I think we actually need to see that in this generation for the generations to come after that, there is to see powerful brothers like you Lebron, you know, even Anthony David, like getting together, putting your

money in something. Uh maybe not necessarily in your own sport, but maybe and whatever sports like like you said, I think you said that he was like just being an owner, you know what I mean? How important you think that is? I that be really important for history for everyone. You know Karadie togetherness and you know breeze love. So we

need more of that. Do you do you think that when when you know he was on the internet bunch, did you have enough support from your peers do you feel did you feel like that or it was just like certain people who had to give you some time. I just feel like, you know, the real ones would be there. You know, you see really what you you know when you go through stuff, no the good, the bad, you know, you're gonna see who really got your back.

So at times of you know, adversity, you see who really with you, and you build your character from who you are, all right, and you and you squashed it with the police, you're that good because because good with the police, I mean, can you ever be good with the sponsors like the athletic you know what I'm saying, like yeah, yeah, yeah, and that situation. Yeah, everything's good,

That's awesome. That's what they went public saying. It wasn't who's they the police athletically that's a little different than just the police continue with them. But yeah, I mean, I mean, I think I think that's I think it's a power move. I think that Um. I think in our community, when we squash them and many things and make things right, it's never really focused on I think the beefs and the problems. That's what the spotlights on.

Yeah yeah, and and and everybody's showing that there's no one no one knows the women over and how much of person could be a big man, you know what I mean? And moving on. So we're gonna salute that man. God damnit, I'm gonna do another shot. Bailey's baby. You already went there. You might have stay there still. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it for you guys. Have we got gloves out here and all that. Goddamn it, you can't cough in this coronavirus. I spoke, I want

I got damnit. This is about my coughs. Been there for Come on, sport, you gotta have a shot. You gotta have a shotgun. You're gonna have to drink broken glass. You know what I think I do vodka, man, I think I do vodka through some motherfucker's I do one more baillies. Come on, I'm gonna hold it down. I'm gonna hold it down. I'm gonna hold it down. God dammit, that's what you got in your cop. That's got cocaine in this cop. That's cocaine. They ain't not like being

in Miambia, b At What made you? What made you not one of them? Like? You know, you know you got got money, and you know most people move to New York through to the bright lights, or they moved to the Los Angeles. And you know what I'm saying, What made you say that? I'm staying in the crib, staying on man, it's not like Miami. Man, when you leave you you you like leaving, but then you start missing it real quick. You want to come back. Okay,

all right, my nigs creeked up for me. Just anybody looked at me like that's the answer that we're not even more teen years. I'm having, y'all. I'm having one of y'all know you've been here a long time. I'm having one of your things, y'all. One thing about Miami nigg is y'all love me and from Miami loving y'all love it. Oh my god, the way they'd be like

what I love it? Like damn? But is it like that's just something that's This is just embttered than you, just the crib from m and you would never play for him. Maybe, Nah, come on, man, come on. You said you're gonna throw some chickens in where I don't know what you said. You want to do something to keep me out what you said I've heard from he wanted to do some something to that. You heard from your Cuban people that what that's how they take a

chicken and throw another. They definitely doing that right, and then the good ship happened. Wait, they take I mean because that the good and the bag could happen the way you just said, that's very generally, take chicken and put it in the bag. I do that all the time. Nothing good happens to me. So what are you talking about? You got to kill the actual chicken. Recolle, don't look back, don't look back back, don't look back, don't look back. I can get to you. Gotta pass it. Yeah, oh

my god, and throw that. I wasn't ready. I wasn't ready. God, man. I ask you a question, back to the NFL experience. You you went to Oakland, so you met John Gruden, you went to Patriots, you met Bill Betterteck where you were with coach Thomlinson for many years now, being a black coach in the NFL is what's my thinking? With the hat? Right? He always he was also the youngest, his headline must be fun whatever, but never take off coach when he won the Super Bowl. So how how

how did that feel? You know, being a black athlete, being a black coach. That's a good question. You know that that you that was who you saw first. That's what that was your first experience into the game. Yeah, that's what you asked, how did you feel coming into the league to make a difference that coach Thomlinson had made a name for himself at a young age. How

was that mentorship that you that you experienced. I mean, obviously, you know he's a guy who understand guys like myself coming from the environment as we come from, so obviously great and relate to me and other players in a way of up your understanding as as other coaches may not have. So you know, it's a leadership and uh

and samples desciplining, helping like young players be successful. When the leave was really good, he felt the same way because he went on regular yesterday saying you you'll always be a stealer no matter what, even though you know the talks isn't about that, but he just wanted to go and say I wanted to steal over the stealer, and he gave you that problem. So that was pretty cool too. So we're gonna we're gonna get his hairline all right at some point, at some point, we're gonna

get already his hairline right. You know what I'm saying. We're gonna get his hairline right because something ain't right. He he got hats on a lot. I mean, why my new ship Billy's Baby Baby is good. Man. You gotta stick to it. Man, It was just good. So we're back and training. That's why we're not drinking. That's what I'm assuming. I'm assuming, and if not, I'm just spread the room off. I'm gonna just say, you know,

he's ready to say, easy old head. I've seen them catch you know, hail Mary from Wyndwood to Overtwn and I've seen it myself. You know what I'm saying, because we we need brothers like we need strong brothers like you. That's a part of the hip hop community. Not only a part of you know, growing up from the hood like us, but you know there's people there's there's hip hop athletes. This just athletes that just scream hip hop this,

and we need them. You know what I'm saying. We need to Alan Ibinson's, we need Davies, we need to even the Adrian Broness, we even we need to deploy may brothers. We need lebron Come on, let me need lebron Excuse me. We need Anthony Davis. The people that you we know that's that's not just from our community, but understands our community. So we need we need you, we need you. And I think I think I think you're ready to We're ready to come back and just

kill him again. That's it, right, you can see it. You can see he's ready. Yeah, he's ready. Yeah, because you got to focus in your eye. And I've seen you did the Hot on the seven interview and the Brothers Club interview, but it seems like you need it all that. Just come back around it. This is the full fledge you now is this is the correct This is correct because you're focused, you look focused, You look focused, and I'm gonna make some noise for that guy. And

I'm proud of that. I'm proud of that. I'm proud of that. So um so pre established. You're doing a documentary, established that we didn't establish. We're gonna go ever, try to act or something like that. We I think I asked you. I don't know if you answered no acting? Okay, why because what do you feel about acting? It makes you face? It's just he's not now right now? Okay? Who said they're not acting to? Someone else said they were never old ship? When I watched Kobe Ship Kobe

Bryant saying hell never act. Did you see Kobe's friend of room? Yeah? Yeah, man, that was pretty sad. Right, did you have a relationship with Kobe? Now, I met him a few times. Okay, um, and how was that interaction? Well, Kobe Bryant No inspired a lot of kids, you know, a lot of people around the world. You know, of course, I'm a mentality. Yeah, so obviously you know what he what he meant to a lot of people all over the world, you know, just off the work ethic, you know,

it's it barely to play. The game has been a rough yeah so far, all right, it's just been crazy. Jesus, it's been month three. You can only go up from here, though. You can only get better. Yeah, right, has to when they get worse. No, I ain't getting word. What worse? Can it get't? Could get words, But it ain't gonna get worse. But all right, I'm gonna grow with you. It's not gonna get it worse. With that, let another block, getter, take another shot. I'm in another shot that my mixing

with vodka. Now is that this one get sucked up when I mixed it with vodka? Can you take me washed this out? Because I'm drinking about a b man. Man, I'm like I said, man, I'm very proud of your movement. I'm very proud and like I said, man, that record you guys is very very good. I think I think I think motherfucker's is they a little mad and they're like, ye, he's he can't be sounding better than these rappers that's out. You sound a lot. It's had a lot better than

young niggers. That's that's that's real ship, that's real. So you're gonna fool fledged album, gonna do that. I forgot to be stablished that they established that full fledged album, full fledged label. Got about vivind features on the album. Yeah, anybody you're thinking of, okay, I know what you get to your favorite, your favorite, who's your who's your favorite growing up? Like please, no, no, we we need to do something. Got changed? No, no, he said, want to,

But we're bringing it back. We're bringing out come on JT. The Bigger Figure, got one of them niggers, that's the name, j JT. Bigger Figure in JT Money to different people know GT. Bigger Figure from the bag, JT Money from me Poison Clans, that's Miami. You gotta be with some of them that if you're going over island right now. You got the album that's gonna mind your your childhood? Which what is that? You gotta tell you got yourldhood. That's a good one. That's a coop. M what else?

Come on? What else? What use hot boys? There's a couple of hot boys, um and he want the group? Yeah, but there was hot Boys on No Limit and it was a hot boys on on cash Money. I think he talked about cash cash money. Remember it was one of the limits. So the Shock was a part of that group. That's that's not act like we don't remember that. So the Shocker was the man at one point, lot''m not looking at making our cons I figure out what you said. Contact with me. Let's respect. I respect No,

I respect Silo. But he won the award over me. But guy felt like having money boys, I'm gonna have to stand up. I keep it it, I keep it. I'm gonna give it to cash cash money, we cash money. I'm gonna have to get to him. No, no, just expect giving it to them as well. What about that norybody in the Trump come. I ain't never won an award for that neither. But one time at the award show. He's an award show. Is me big pun DMX corrupt and against Silk the Shocker. We all in the same category.

We all know we're gonna rent. We all know we're like, come on, no one takes silk serious New York. It's in New York. Oh this again. I was having to so they're coming up me punning. I'm just looking at everybody like it's imagine every ties to me and have ties, but my mind is fixing the tie. And they said self the shock. I said, what now, just walking with yourself. But I just feel like I still deserved that award, Like to this day, I feel like I still deserve

that ward. And I think I got busy or to admit that they paid for the warter. I'm not trying to, but I'm not sure. I'm not sure. There's a little low No, I'm just saying I'm not you're ship. I'm not sure. We did kind of ask me, you know that, because I think he kind of admitted to he said they paid for ads, pade for ads. They didn't pay for the actual make bad so shot shot to all

of them niggas. But my heart was hurt for weeks as and as you can see, this is twenty years later and I'm still talking about it, so I was obviously still and that still hurts me. Yes, yes, Is there a moment in your career that you you wish you could go back and take over? I'll do alway? Excuse me, because that's one of mine. I wanted, like really right now? Okay, no regrets. You're saying that's hard, that's hard and no regrets. Yeah, time with slime, quick,

time with slime. This is just I'm gonna give you one or the other. You pick what up on one you want? Okay, A little way in a dream? Damn right, Drake Nikki or Cardi B. Are the Cardi B. Now it's a jay Z Damn she both Okay? Okay, I answers though, Okay? Wait Kuan or uh rock cam M Okay? Trick Daddy a Kodak Daddy? Okay, Trina or the City Girls tram Okay? All right? I got one more? All right? What is my mom? More more? You gotta relax, stop.

Name of your friends, man, everything everything got to be about your friends, all right, Jesus, I got one more? All right, do it football related? Absolutely absolutely, San Diego of San Francisco. Who ever got the more chicken? Goddamn? I respected what I was taking a shot behind that? God damn what kind of shot is this? This looks respector I don't know. You're drinking vodka and go from Bailey's to rock right. No, I don't think you can, but you're doing it. I'm doing I'm drinking Miami's own

Columbian white. Let's go. Ah, that ship needed somebod ice or suck. You don't get that baby. So if you have one like person to bring it back from the dead to collaborate with you on music. So anybody that's that passed away you can collaborate with you on music. Who would it be? Nevers else? I thought you said Biggie's most of the hustle was great. Did you meet them? Hustle? Cool? Dude? Right,

it's it's it's a tragedy. What's going on? Right? Like I couldn't see that, and he was doing the right thing, going back to his hood and things like that. Do you ever see do you ever? Is it ever a problem for you going back to your hood? Not like from people, but just period because like sometimes you might come about come out and everybody comes out when you come out. Is there's things like that that you deal with. Yeah, OK, yeah,

me too. I'm good in the hood too, But when I go out sometimes it's like everyone comes out to see me, and it's like too many people come out, the good, the bad, the ugly. They're in between. And sometimes it's like, you know, I have to be cautious because I leave, you know what I'm saying. As much as I go to the hood, as much as I say hi, much like hang out, I gotta sometimes always be cautious that I leave you. Yeah, you gotta leave, man. You can't stay. Man. I know niggas that really stay

stay like in the projects and famous with money. It's terrible because it's post dramatic syndrome, you know what I'm saying, Like like they've been through it, they deserve the position they at and they still will go back, you know what I'm saying. So we always got to be cautious to that. So I'm glad you don't have to deal with any of that, man, definitely. Man. So, so what's what's your favorite Momi tradition? Is the ki utro? Is it motherfucker what art by? Yeah, yeah, Goombay. I don't

know what that is. You never invited me. What is that? It's like another chaot type of thing, but with goons. No, man, it's Caribbean. It's Caribbean. It's a lot of Okay, I mean you mean a lot of what a lot of I'm figuring a lot of shooting based man. Yeah, what does that describe what it is? I mean it's cool Bay. I can't it's it's literally the Caribbean version. I mean it's like just got commercialized, but used to be like goom Bay but on a smaller scale. Now goom Bay

is it is going up to that level. It's just a Caribbean thing. Yeah, you could get it all different from different islands. You can get all kinds of food. That's the gooney music. No, it's not goonies. Man, I'm talking about baby Man from the movie Oh My Jesus Christian Festival. Yeah, that's hard. And where's it take place at? The growth? Yea in the grove. Really only been in the Grove a couple of times about Piece in the Hood. Do you ever go to Piece in the Hood? Peace

in the Hood, Piece in the hood. Yeah, d you don't go out that he started that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, man, rest in peace. You think it's in Miami. Man'll get some more football crashing before Well, I got a question for you. I know you do, Okay, everybody, every athlete, they come to their own on the training level or on a discipline level. Now, we were able to see from the Hard Knocks show you training in the pool,

you're training on the beach. Was that something that you learned on your own or where somebody implemented that that strategy for you? Now you learning out there years and year. It's just training. But high school doesn't do that right, it's more in college level or high school. We went to the beach in high school, did you know you were gonna further further move on? Yeah, that's when you start, you know that belief, you know you gotta believe it

then And were you involved in the Little League? Yeah, I played for Queen Cherry like Tenure, so we gotta get Oh yeah, you mentioned earlier in my back. But that's that's a lot of respect and congratulations at a young level to know that to get into that mind frame and move on to high school, move on to college um the vante free also from home team, but he came up through the Liberty City on Warriors. But

that's that training. Back to what I was saying, you do that on your own, like you're waking up on your own and you don't have a training, you don't do you That's that's discipline. So I congratulate you on that too. Sometimes the congratulation has to be more than just accolades and trophies. You have to be like a handshake. And I commend you for that also, because that's hard. You know, nobody can do that or give him a deep Handshakers, Corona right now, you gotta gottau the last man.

I'm scared of this Corona ships anybody else like I know, I'm reading serious. I mean we scared you got gloves are right now, got that march madness. They pushed back everything. So you started a game during your sophomore season and two thousand and eight against Temple and had three receptions and thirty three yards and the season high two touchdown receptions. Yeah, this isn't your say it's so for you against Temple? So what what? What is? What? This is? This is

coming up? Holy moly, moly. Do you remember these because you could keep going? There's too many things that you did that. You were of the first one handed cash before Homeboy bid Ship. Yeah, for O'Dell and Jarvis. So you still do that now that's part of your training also. But does every wide receiver train you trained for the one hand and catch? You have a machine that that SIPs the ball out. I saw that and it's like all the speed changes, right. Yeah, it's not. It's not easy.

No about everybody can't do that. Not everybody can do that at all. You ever get bad when people compare you like Odell because some people just compare you because you're black. Do you ever feel like that? Man? You know, when you're a siting player, you know you gotta go. You're gonna get the comparisons. And that's a part of Yeah, yeah, you have two different players to be totally like you

know what I'm saying. But I can understand, like you know, especially with the one handed catch and then and then I've seen that. I feel like most people just do it because they that was fun. That was fun, like Steph Curry and now everybody wants you forty feedback when before it wasn't doing that. So how do you feel being a veteran in the game, do you mentor the youngest or you still focus on beating everybody? Now you gotta you know, you gotta make it better for the

guys come behind you. So you know, being a leader, you know happen to young guys. What is it about? Is your focus local? Like locally here in Miami Like dude, yeah, yeah, college kids here, you know, the local kids at the high school park got more gym here and larger call eighty four seven fitness. So yeah, so we host a couple of players and you know, training and making sure

that's that's that's good. That's the way to get back. Now, let's say, And in shows, being that you've had a little bit of a of a dim light on some controversy, people people like you, people love you, kids all over even like I'll tell you what, on the Hard Knocks show, I didn't want to watch it because it was the Raiders. But then when you went to the Raiders, I tuned

in myself to watch you. But then when you were hurt and then you weren't let's say specifically on the show, they still took the camera crew to you, and you went to a high school game and the entire crowd was and that's hard. So that's a that's not a crowd. That that's not a Miami crowd. But they all gave you the problem, they all gave you the picture. They all gave you, and you said something important that stuck to me when you said you gotta give back and

you gotta give everybody time. And n athlete that your stature don't have that time or want to get back to the fans. So you actually proving yourself to be a lot more than than what people see you as, more than an athlete, more than an athlete. Now, is that because it's ten years the game or because you're just maturing, Like there's a difference in being an athlete ego and a personal growth the end of the day,

you're a first. You know, you treat people how you want to be treated, right, you know, So that's the principle I live on. No matter what your positional role of who you is, you know, you treat people how you want to be treated. Man, that's the golden rule. Abe. We want to let you know, Man, we funk with you in your real life and real time. I'll tell you I'll funk with your record. Man, I foke with

what you're doing. I'm gonna support it. Man. I'm gonna let you know where I live off camera too, because I'm ding down to block. But I don't want to help be motherfucker's. But what I'm saying is, man, you're a great guy. Every time I see you, I want to support you. Anytime you want to promote anything, I want to promote your artists or anything. We're here. We were filmed with the Crib. I'm not from Miami, but

and this show was born in Miami. So anytime you want to come and promote I want to salute you and your queen. I want to salute that that next step in your life, and I want to say that that's a dope thing. Man. You know what I mean. I wanna I'll continue to respect that and just show you love my brother, my brother, And anytime you ever want to come and say anything to anybody, you can say, hey, you know what I mean. We prefer to positive, but if you want to come negative to who take that

as well. Thank you for taking your time out man. We so let's take a couple of pictures and if you wrap it up man, Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs, hosted by yours truly, d j e f N and n O r E. Please

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