Episode 195 w/ Bizarre

Right now? We got a person. We got a brother who's been down since nine the six heard he proved his own solo album in ninety seven, and then he got with a crew, motherfucking one of the most phenomenal groups ever. He's out here monkey fucking doing his own thing with red Hood, red hat, motherfucking what is it? Red hat and entertainment. This motherfucker's been out here just doing it, doing the funking gotta do. I've seen him with shower caps on and all type of ship, you

know what I mean? Everywhere I see on the road. He's always been a delight. So he's been he has He's the only person I know this Joe, But is a jail like trying to cut on the same record In case you don't know who the hell I'm talking about, I mean, I got. I mean, there's no sense of warming up to it. You might as well just get straight into it. Um, you had a record this in Joe, But who's who's a friend of the show and a

friend of mine. And and you also you all heard this jail like trying to come which I didn't see or actually did not know where that came from. But she ain't got Kelly. That was something that I've seen coming back, you know, I expected. So just break down for the fans, you know what I'm saying. Um, you know what was that about Electronica? I mean you yeah, trying to Um. He used to be down with us a long time ago. He was. He used to be

um an artist woman for Mr. Porter. Really were not group, Yeah, and uh he used to like shoot the road footage force and you know, going the road and do a little ship like Tranica used to be a videographer. Yeah. Wow, a lot of famis but like he was, he was around you know the studios, So that's you know, he's from Louisiana right now, everywhere's yeah you can't. Yeah. So basically that's that's the story behind that. So so he

used to be down each other. But what made you disn't on the record though, because he said something about um Marshall saying something about two pockets or whatever, and he dissed them pretty hard, like he never knew us or never hung around him. So I'm really big on family. So I just felt like, not you and who never

knew him? Said, you know, I'm saying like he like he never knew us came out Okay, So I was just you know, I'm big on family, so I was just like, damn, you're digging like he shouldn't have did that big, Okay, definitely shouldn't. Okay, all right, I didn't. Now, I just go down the line. Okay, Now, Joe Button, what I mean? I think that's kind of obvious for

the fans that don't know Joe Buttons. Uh, I mean like probably like the same reason, well even more because uh, you know, we had a problem with the back in the day and U as he said something about us in the song whatever and Royce wanted to put this tour together car never said Never tour, which was you know, we had the beat for Roy's back in the day, and then he was like, do you think about Joe buttons like so we had to have a big gass

conference called yelling and screaming. You just this what the motherfuck of us us? I'm sorry, I'm sorry, it's just wrapped. So we know, we squashed the beat. Whatever went on tour in Canada, sahouse, this is private. They made Slaughterhouse while he was on tour with us, so you know, while he was on tour with us, they were like, yeah, we should get some mcs from from this place, and he was beating too, and then then they squats the ship and then Royce asked us to squash what Joe was.

We went on tour with him and then you know, everything was cool and then they formed Slaughterhouse and then they you know, did the thing on Shady and then after that, damn smoke so good as sweet, the goddamn thank you man, goddamn smoke chances flowery case. People want to go in that smoke Champs got, it's what you got, just put it in my blood. You know what I mean,

because might got old school foul long yeah damn. But anyway, yeah yeah, so after that, you know what I'm saying, I just felt like, uh, when he when he had this little h his rant about album, Yeah, I feel like he just went too far with the like the racist ship, Donald Trump and the whole you know, Oh

when did the BT freestyle you're talking about? Okay, I just feel like you went too far, you know, as being family, but we all funk with each other, laugh joke being on tour, like like it's cool to say like I don't like I like his album, but you're saying like, because that's what I thought it was actually over. I thought it was actually him saying he like, I didn't know what. But if you've been around Joe with you, I would say that I just didn't like what you said.

But if you've been if you've been around Joe a lot, you will understand that he don't like niggas. You know, he's more of a female Like he'd rather go out with six females, you know what I'm saying. So I think he really don't get the camaraderie all the time when it comes to to niggas. I remember one time he uh, he woke the whole bus up and had a meeting about somebody peeing on them on the floor and the tour bus like you know, the tour buses shake.

You know, you know what you're doing with man? You you piss on it? You got yeah, you know. But he had a meeting blaha, Well I don't want to go in the bathroom and bits on the floor. So did I. I knew they didn't like he has special type, but I did. I did. Um okay, but it ain't no beef through you know what I'm saying. You know, we we know too many the same people forward to to keep going on. You know what I'm saying. I think I spoke about piece. He spoke his piece because

he didn't respond on the record, but he did. He did respond, Yeah, I want you far on the record. Man. Oh yeah, okay, I always over killed ship. Okay, So we gotta ask you what's going on right now? What's happening? And now you don't know when this is coming out. I mean, we don't know when this is coming out, but think about it is m got on. Joey cracked my brother's record I'm totally first time I got some stories about him. Okay, So I mean he totally one

way for him, twouldn't have been a cold one. Um, totally destroyed diverse, right, And I can't front. At my first time I heard it, I didn't heard that he said Nick all right, because I'm thinking Ce's talking about the Begion. That guy, I'm not thinking he's talking about. Then the second and the the third time I heard it, I was like, oh, I can't Now I'll get my nickers talking because at first I didn't catch him. But so Nick comes at him, but he comes out of

them with four different dudes, right, that's the first one. Uh. And response on Twitter he says, I never had a show far or something cocksuck us something that's true, that's very true and um and then Nick and them makes another record, but he does it with the wild and now I believe the same dudes from the first one. I was the same thing. Altho, those are two different Okay, I think addn see I'm the second. So what is your rapp up the second? So the first as the

first one? Yeah, so what is your first response when you when you hear that? Like, actually, I'm a I'm a real battle rapper fanatic than I had my own week before. I know Charlie clips, I don't hit man. I thought it was funny at first, you know what I'm saying. I knew what it was. I feel like, you know, they gotta do it with Nick til do you know what I'm saying. That they don't get on the song, They're gonna lose their job, you know what I'm saying. So I thought the ship was funny, you

would like I got. Yeah, I thought the ship was funny. You know what I'm saying. I ain't. I ain't taking no offense to it because they did four bars a piece, and until they was trying to I think best not to get personal. So so I ain't really think she did the first. But Nick, this person though, Yeah, like you feel he's taking it personal. Yeah, I believe so. I believe. I believe Nick is. You don't think it's just battle rap shit for him, It's just it's just bitch.

I think I think it's I think I think it's Yeah, I think which is which is what happened already. This is the second time around. I would defend, I would I would defend my baby mom of yeah, the same way I will. Yeah, I hadn't learned that. I had to learn this as a man, because you know, I didn't have motherfucker's come out. I sucked your mama such and I had I told the du told me, I said, look, you sucked my baby mama. I fucked your baby mama.

My boy fucked your mama. You're all sucking somebody. So yeah, and once you start getting the metality in your head, you it will be less easy. But I guess everybody don't think like that. So I go through it though, taking it from the beginning because was it was it was it D twelve really had twelve members at first, or no, we tried to get twelve members. Okay, an't work? Okay, yeah, yeah, six is another so okay, but now, but that's not the reason why it was D twelve, not to try

to have twelve twelve members. Yeah, really, you know, okay, but when I when I googled, you said you had an album in ninety seven. Alum, Yeah, he was a part of a group in nineties six. Yeah that what was the name of that group? The outsiders, the outside of you guys were actually in the outside of the Pace one. Yeah, because I think out the All Jersey Cats. I know that that that and was affiliated, but I didn't know that it was official. Yeah, I was in the group. Yeah, yeah, we uh I met them. I

met them in d C at a rap battle. You know. We they had a we had a Vanity Detroit cast that went to it was battling before. Yeah, we've been battling alone and this was the Andrews. But it was just kid. He came to the hip hop shop and he said, anybody wanted to go to d C the Hollyway for this rap convention. So I went down there. So I go off the bus me and I was out from Slum Village. We've seen these cats in the Cipher and it was Paced, one of young Z. Yeah,

and we went over there to the Cipher. We got into Cipher and Z told me like, Yo, if you ever come to Jersey, um hit me up. I think it's a part of this Okay, So I said, I said, okay. So ship Like a month later, Proof was going to New York. I was like the first New Jersey from New York. It was like about thirty minutes. So they dropped me off of Newark and I went to like four or five times, and then I brought Marshall there was back there. I think it's always been. Yeah, yeah,

I've seen wild shooting. They're trying to gentify it a little bit. I see the Starbus coming places. Yeah, that's the star Bus company. But that's actually the first time I've seen and you must have been on the tour that I've seen. M was opening up Frontsiders. Yeah out here in cameo in Miami Beach. Yeah yeah, episode. So he came around and then we all got cool and you know what I'm saying, Like that was like the first group that we was affiliated with, but it was

so many niggas, so much ship going on. We started for my own little clique in Detroit. So Proof decided he wanted to do a group called Detroitler and the concept was to get til rappers that was from different crews, like all of our team, and have them become one click. But it was the plan because of falls, because it was the letter D. Wasn't the plan that all be from Detroit? Yeah yeah, yeah, you wanted to start the Troit clu okay almost yeah yeah, yeah, but you know,

we had eight nine and then Niggas and fallout. You said, you don't want to beat in the mold. It's hard to getting up that mothers together. Yeah, so then we just said, are we gonna do six rappers two personalities? And then that's why you got slim shady. I don't got two personalities, bizarre bar you got six personalities. So a teacher named you bizarre because he used to rhyme in the class. Yeah. Yeah, my music teacher. She thought

I was talking to myself. But because you're not right with a pen, I was just like, She's like, you're telling a teacher she was right, happen. I heard that. I said, man, that's like he's when I first see you all rule doing that, Like when I first seeing him, like right without not writing, I thought he was regarded

like you don't that's the right term. But even get going, because you know, I've never seen at this moment, I had never seen nobody right without act like I come from real pad and pen, no page, the black and white note package. Write your name on the front of the ship. You know what I'm saying, Like like before, Lucy Lee, that's where I come from, right, you know what I'm saying, Lucy Lee was actually like Hollywood. Remember the black and white note places right graph on it.

You know what I'm saying, I just have to have the black books and that. So but mo, I know you coped up subject. So so you guys go to the outside this right and so and this is like ninety six. This is ninety six, right, this is after the rap Olympics. Thing to him, did this is before that, before the rap Olympics? Is? Uh? When I took him

to meet Wendy Day shout she comes up. At the time, let's be clear the white people who were dominated, who was who was respected in the industry with third base, the white people who were making money who wasn't respective or like vanilla. You can't forget beastie boys. I was going in, I was going in. But that was early in the day where you know, ah, we we never even knew that there was white people in Brooklyn at

the time when they said no sleep to Brooklyn. So that was, you know, that was different them in Rick Rubin, that's a little bit before kind of my time. It's definitely before your time. Um, But that's what I'm trying to say. So we had never seen ever last of course, yeah, house of pain, ever last House of Pain, which we said third base, right, we said, um, there's a couple of people were missing. It's just it has never yeah, yeah, I was thinking about Okay, okay, I forgot my bad Okay.

So it has never been a phenomenon like right, big up to Rod's pick up, to even with sin Gun Kelly pick up to who else is an other guy other white person? Yea easy. But still with all of that, you know, sometimes they actually put it together what m has done. Did you ever see that at first in the beginning I'm told about in the beginning and the

outside of things. Then he stood out Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely, like it's ron wise because of his complexion, like you be well, it was a rumor about him before I ever met him. It was like a myth because we used to have these battles at the hip hop shop and uh it was yeah and it was it was once a month, and uh I had heard like yo, it's just white boy man. He cold, but he was

a champion. So what they do was like the cipher would be like out here and like she proof worked at the you know, proof of his manager pop shop. So he would put him in the back like an office part, and so nobody ever seen him until like

it was time to battle. He used to have his hat down real, ower his head and ship and that's when I when I first met him, I was like, damn, like he was killing everybody him and Proof was kind of setting it like fucking white man can't jump exactly, like yeah, exactly described like cruc man, I'll take the white boys, Like what for real? I can see that. I could see that happening. Yes, yeah, that's exactly what happened.

It was something like white rig and joke. A lot of people thought, oh it's easy and mother slate him real, he was just taking motherfucker's out. But getting back to my point, at that point, like Beastie Boys a third base, you got to hear them being lirical, especially lyrical for at that time. But we all know lyrical is considered underground.

We know that, Like I'm said, at that time, though, I mean, I can tell you like this, no, I don't take that time because there's certain artists who broke lyrical. Liberal people are getting signed on clue tapes like a cannabis just off of being lyrical the time were getting being lyrical. You got a deal off of being lyrical. Yeah, but I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I don't think

I meant that. If I did say that, what I meant was it just wasn't the popular thing, like you know, it was always the puff Daddies that was always easier. I think you're thinking conscious. You're confusing conscious and lyrical conscious rappers. No, I'm saying lyrical. No, I mean I mean, I mean, you know, to tell the truth, even with red Man and method Man, where they were just being lyrical when they started going like this, it's separated them

when they said that. I'm trying to say, like like you started partying to red Man because remember like red Man is just like you know what I mean, I don't want to say just because like post What I'm trying to say is there's certain things like like at that moment, like even not like even not the greatest

album he made, Maddo. His next album was considered commercial because they told him as much lyrical, verical, great greatest ship that was to Vercal But that ship was they was like, yo, you went gold, you could of went double platform. And his next album did go double platin. So most people after that no being up to the forefront, but to getting the door. They were getting in the door lyrical at first, like early nineties men nineties. Yeah,

but that's what I'm saying that he started change. But I use nazis that example he was. He was the criticiantial example, right and since then obviously say coming out after that. What I'm trying to say is, you know the success of that, like him being like because sometimes being over lyrical hurts you, Like you know what I'm saying.

Some people don't just don't understand it. So like you saw the phenomenon it could become or you just I mean he Yeah, he basically worked harder than anybody ever rapper I've seen before, Like you know, the twelve sometimes we've been a boot foot seven eight hours just about him say it over, I think you could do better. I'm like, God damn. He was like Dr Drake before he made Yeah, like he Dr Drake Thome's twin, you know, I'm saying as far as like and he hard on

himself too. So here he go back and do the same song two weeks for two weeks. I can't do I do a song to me, if I come back to it, sometimes it's not the same. I don't get that same volume. So no, you okay, yeah that's but you know he worked hard. Man like he I mean, he'll sit there and just mumbile syllables, you know what I'm saying, trying to make a match. I'm like, God, damn, bro, you really deserve everything. You know what I'm saying. He got me. I can't. I can't even wrapt in the studio.

I can't. I can't just say at home and write a rap, right, so now it comes out all right, I'm you know, bouncing around the place. The real Sime shitty right, that's the first record, correct, you know what's about? The single was the real shifty right my name is with how Many, which which is basically when he kind of shy right so New York Radio, which is that's

not his first album. He had The Infinite Infinite, which he sounded like Nas and jay Z. I think you think j Z. I think he sounded like like jay Z when jay Z was Hawaiian Sophie jay Z, and he sounded like Nas. I think I thought it was like hazy with and that's a full it's a full album. Mr Porter produced it. Yeah, okay, we was, we was. He was super broke back then. Man, Okay, that was the that was the how can I Be Down? Days? So I took him the freaking too. He was only

white Atlantic. Yea, let's get to that. Let's get to that. Let's get to yalla sound amazing stuff. Tell us guys there, Uh no, man, we we we we we were first we went to how I Be Down? So he was like, which the first like the first one it was. It was the how could I'll be down? With? Fat Joe got with Yeah, I was there. I was in the street, found there, he got in the street, right there and watching.

I was right there on the sideline, Joe, buddy, I mean, you're not tell us that your fat Joe jumped off the bus and got into this big swollen as like crip or you know what I'm saying something that it was crazy. I mean, I was like eighteens in there watching like damn. But we came in our copy down Peter Thomas and we slept with my man drunking Master's floor because we we didn't have no uh fact, what's that not the studio drunk Drew. No, No, what's that

dude from Interscope, the big guy. Uh, he's from New York. Everybody know him. He's a promo guy, Kevin. You gotta regrass people with a stomach. I mean, he was like a king of promotions back then. But he let us stay in this room anyway, shot him. I forgot his name. Man. Yeah, then we left. How could I'll be down? And uh I was like, yeah, you want to go to Freak Nick And uh my mom stayed in Atlanta at the time,

so he was like yeah. So we called the Great houndick to the way that make sure, we called the Great Hoound from Miami to Atlanta. That's like twelve hours. Yeah. And he tried to go on the bus for a garbage back, like you know, a garbage back that you think trash through it. It's like, sir, you can't, you know, you can't get on this this greayhound with the garbage back. And I'm like he was like what I had the

slow gays. But yeah, we went the Freaknick. Man. It was crazy, man, but the girls loving him, like, look at the white boy. I think he might have been the only white boy at Freelick. So we need to give it up for him for that. So for the big scam up. So um, like I said, uh, you're forty three, I'm forty two. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you've seen, like I said, you've seen the dynamic about Vanilla Ice as opposed I don't know I said this before, as opposed to a third base and even the Beastie Boys

for that nature. So this is the original Crest House of Pain. We can't forget that house of pain. Of course I cannot forget as I think there's a couple of others, and I apologize if I get some people will but of course, of course, and especially through the whole course of hip hop. But my name is comes out right. It's the first thing, right, my name is

comes out this video. First off, First off, before I even get to my name is, what did you think when you found out that he was working with Dr Dre. I was. I was in texting, working at UH. I was in Texas working at a hospital, and I was doing some rounds around the hospital. My little wasn't like a disordered like the fact I was a security guard and I was doing rounds because you know, being a rapper that's the only job you can get where you ain't doing SHIP. So that's why I always went for

the security guards job. But I was doing rounds around the thing and she told me like, Yo, you have a call in a security office. Call me at work. So I get there and he's like in Texas. In Texas, my mom had just moved. He was like hello, He's like with sub bizarre. I'm like, what's up? He said, Man, this this Marshall. I said, what's up. He's like, man, I'm in h l A. I just signed Dr Drake. I was like what. He's like, yeah, man, I just signed the Doctor's Dray. I'm like you He's like, yeah, bro,

I want you to come out here. I want to fly you out here like tomorrow. I was like damn. So I huggles phone. I told my supervisor I quit and ship. Went home and told my mom and they was like what, because you know we're eighteen nineteen years old. You're telling your mom that you're about to l A and ship. It was and you know who Dr dre is at this time. Yeah, I'm looking like yeah. So I hopped on the plane the thing and came out to l A and when you seen it, you knew

it was real. Yeah, man, I mean definitely real. Man. I'd've been round off the dre like thirty times. Man. I probably can count on one hand how many words I say to him, Oh wow, because that's much red. Yeah. I mean he always, I mean he always be cooling my lyrics all the time. So he was like, Yo, Pore, you said that ship was crazy. Damn yeah, but you know, okay,

all right. So even with that being set, because didn't the BC boys work with Rick Ruman, right right, even with that being set, I gotta get back to my random crush. My name is right, that's it comes out. They do this phenomenal video they got the blonde head. What do you say? Do you say we aut head? Or do you say I hope the world because I'm

gonna tell you what I thought. Remind me to say what I felt because I heard it prior to me seeing So this is your world now, like you know, all the phone calls are coming to you, the phone calls. I'm in the industry. We're just talking like, yo, who is this guy? But I want to know from your path. I think I've never seen the other part. I think I went straight to we out of here? You know what I'm saying. That's all I thought about, was we out of you? Was it just the affiliation to Dre

already that you thought that's no matter what we do. Yeah, I just knew. Remember Dre never touched nothing that did and it's hard to come out on't after me? Right, Yeah, and Kim had a hard time. Man, Remember as Empire was one. Yeah, it's a lot of people that's emperory, right, Yeah, Nigga signed the dr Dre and just say it's all yeah, they just give up everybody. Yeah, yeah, that's it. Yeah.

So yeah, I was. I was straight into let's go mode, man, because I had actually I had an album out too called Attack of the Weirdos, the one you're talking about ninety six. Uh, my record was doing so good too, so Atlantic because you know, people of people know I was the first rapper sign the Shade Records. You know what I'm saying, I saw it first before d Twill, So, uh, I have Atlantic. They wanted to sign me at the time, Um, what's this Craig coming? Still there? He's still a Tuesday right,

still getting that damn money. Comm He's a great guy. Yeah, so I was supposed to sign an idea. I signed a letter in Tient first, and uh so, I think Shady was supposed to be on Atlantic at first. It was going through a deal in Atlantic, and you know, Jimmy came in and shut that down, you know, because you know, because what I heard, it was Jimmy who discovered him. Yeah, I mean I discovered them, but it was Jimmy who got the tape, gave the tape to Dre.

This is what I heard. You tell me if I'm wrong, Yeah, I think it was. It was. It was just guy named Dean who was Okay, who him and DJ are Jimmy's nephews. Okay, This is what I heard that he played it for Dre and didn't tell him he was white. Yeah, so I had to do with Unsigned, hyping Rigs and all that. I think. I think even at that time it was too rich to look at Unsigned with my brother, he was too rich. Pull up onside and even a lot of people got signed right off of Unsigned. Here.

I don't think John may remember rig Riggs became head of A and over there at Shady. Yeah, that's probably after. I think. I don't think that was it yeah, I don't think that was it. I think it was the respect that Jimmy half on, like continue in the relationship after you know, the firm and things like that, and it's basically like, you know what I'm I'm looking out for you, but keeping you on after we lost this amount of money. Look, basically listened to this guy. So

we're saying, Jimmy Ivan brought the tape to Dre. That's what we're all saying. This is kind of what in my mind, this is what the story too. I mean, there could be someone else and you know the process, but that's what I heard. And then when Drey, I was like, yo, I think I like him, and that the very last end was the moment where they said that he was white. What do you mean he's kept the white that's away? Yeah, I mean I believe I think the story he's telling. I've seen that on TV. Yeah.

I definitely scared man, you know definitely, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Those were Dr Dre words. Yeah, exactly exact. Noris so hard He's no, he's talking about exactly exactly. I love my hip hop gets to be bround. But um, okay, so so you said once you knew that once this

game out, this this is just gonna gonna go. But did you know like this a big like this because I mayn't come off bro like this motherfucker yeah, um, like he can't go outside, like it's different, Like you know what, I'm playing people that all the time, like Michael Jackson big, Like the other day, I just you know, serious, the day I went to the airport, I just you know, I just passed. Yeah, you're going to give a fun

motherfucker looked at me. That cannot bad room. Yeah, but you know usually you gotta do like this, you gotta you know, like I just you can't do that. If you if yep, you can't do that, people just gonna run up. Like I go to the mall sometimes to myself, like you just can't do that if if you slip shake, No, you just can't. Man. I feel sorry for him your

time because he's like Elvis. He's like the hip hop Elvis. Yeah, and that ship is annoy man, not being public anytime you try to do it, you know, just to chest it out. It's deadly there man. So so rouse the five nine, right, because at one point even you guys have beef right, huh was because Royce wasn't never part of detail. So he was with our earlier MC on that didn't have a relationship with y'all me orch with the Igh School together. Yeah, anybody in detrading on each other.

Let's not racist, because I think it's actually true. Look ahead with Hi School together and uh, I mean he was really known for wrapping back then. He was known for like, uh being smart. He just looked like he's smart. No, No, he was case you know what I'm saying. He was like smart, fighting, fighting, light took he was it was. He was in this group called the Park Boys, the Park Boys, hanging about the basketball court, beating up parking. Ok. Yeah,

so that's you know, that's why our history started. And then uh, like I think once he graduated, you know, he started this group called Wall Street Wall Street, and uh that's when he's you know, started hitting the open mics and you know, getting around and seeing any ship. So and then so him and you how did he become a part of uh because because he was down with y'all at first? But I know, did he take

a deal with Tommy Boy? Yeah? Yeah he is? That is that what happened that he was down with y'all and he took up deal with Tommy Boy, and then y'all was like him, like basically he didn't he do a couple white man gigs too early on with them like a just Man TV spring breaks. I swear I saw him a couple he was like, he was hype man first and then UM had his own crew called Wall Street. He was type man first and then um he got to deal with Tommy Boy. So you know,

because you know what I drink chaps. Yeah, he said, the biggest mistake you haven't made but signs of the time and he said Dr dre had like a I think lesser deal for him. Now that I'm older, I can see what he's saying by that. But I can see what he's saying bout that because now that I'm older, I can see why the beefs it started with us. You know what I'm saying that a lot older, I can really appreciate it because see what happened was I have reached left Tommy Boy. He didn't deal with Columbia

and Columbia some year so we we were interscope. So but I think he was supposed to do Marshall was supposed to do so much with his album, like executly producer. Yeah, but what I did know that I know now is that basically by us being signed to Interscope, Shady, Marshall had to look out for us more because to two labels to comfort the interest, you know, say the solos. Yeah, So like you know, kind of like if if you're doing a war show or something, Jimmy might be like, Yogo,

bring you gotta gotta promo your guys, man, why you ain't? Yeah, But us as rappers, we don't know that. I know if you're on Death Jam, I'm on fucking Capital, but we don't even know that. Our two labels only like each other, so they don't want to clear records ship and you know what I'm saying. And I think he

just got kind of caught up in that. So it kind of made it looking away like maybe Marshall wasn't doing enough, but it was really that pressure were having your own label and breaking these cats that it's on your label, you know what I'm saying. So I got the kind of like started a little the little beef and ship because I'm not gonna lie. I would have been met personally after U uh, what is it? What's the first one who just got over just smoking some

good weeks? Like he sold so much breakfast Like I would have thought he would have never came. I would have through it. I went through the detwelve. I was never gonna be like invented because I'm just saying the nigga So where was that first LP? Like ten million? You know what? We almost didn't come out, but we came smart rest of the piece to proof he came up with this playing like no we we kind of looked at this pattern of like rappers that signed um

other boys they never make it. Like we've seen the Nads with the Brave Hearts, Grave Hearts, We've seen all these crews, like the crews falling. So when we got ready to come out, we had we had a big dilemma. What song was gonna put out. It was either gonna be Purple Pills or the song called Ship could happen. It was some street song, you know, because Trade, I mean Detil was really some street niggers. So we had to make it make a decision because the group on filips,

so who went with Purple Pills? I said, Purple pills, right, decision continue, continue the scammed in the art for that final you know, no, that was purple I don't know what I mean, he should that was our first thing. I shoot you before listening. Scam also did the drink chains of stuff for us, so you come come help me out when you know I do a lot of drugs, man. So the purple pills purple pills. So yeah, so we had the choice between she could happen and purple pillers.

It was divided to do a vote system, so I think so I'm not gonna call me anything swiftly, uh Conniver and US supporter. I think they wanted can happen me proof m wanted purple pills me doctor Dray with the final vote. Okay, but what is the purple pill? Let's just I'm just sure this is what it was. The clarify. You know what I'm saying, That's what the clarifier. So okay, hear w pills come out? Okay, right, it's because you know, Kris One said something very strong back

in the days. He said, watch what you say because you attracted. Oh yeah, that's so. I imagine when y'all perform purple pills there was all kind of actually being all at you guys, like I just see that. Let's bee what you just said. Because we have a large fan base of mental health. Oh I didn't mean to go there. I meant to go yeah, yeah, literally the same. But I can see what you were like, do it with mental health issues? With mental health fans? Oh wow,

I'm saying that issues. They really believe ship that we you know what I'm saying drug fans for that for now, get that it's very hot, very hot. But I mean I mean, yeah, yeah, that's drug. The drug. Because you know me, I spoke a out of Malwan. So when I go to the cups. At first I first came out, they would throw weed at me and I would feel like a stripper. But the fuck you throwing weed at me for but I'm taking it up and put it in my pocket, like yo, don't do that no more,

I ain't. They don't get it, and they're going to the side. I'm like, yeah, so but you know, that's what I said. That's what I said. That's what I said, and it's what it So I would like to know the purple pill. Okay, Broum, And this is the height of accident too. Yeah. This, in fact, I had a couple of purple pills. I want you to describe coming to the show man just wild man, I just I just seen some wild ship man. Like I remember one show, this captain is trying to get my attention to using

the audience like bar I love you bizarre. I'm like yeah, yeah, He's like, but I love you. I was like yeah, and then he was like, I want show you how much I love you, And I was so four y'ars came on and it was a big ass mos pit. He looked me, damn my eyes and let itself on fred Ship. Who don't know if he's all, yeah, let's make some noise. But time you've always been like, for lack of a better reference, the ODB. Yeah, you can see it like the od B of the of the

group you've been up. I don't know if you're trying to be the standout, just just the standout, like from the shower cap you survived to the you know was a joker. It was yeah, we was going we're doing our first show at the Lyrics Lounge tour. There was yeah, and we had just got signed and uh, we're just in Milwaukee, and I was in the bathroom, like, okay about the Goring stage is you know, it's six niggers on the stage talking. I'd be different, six niggas and Babel.

So I had to through this little little cheapass shower captain and the little cheap motails like defense Ry Jerry Jerry Card. So I came out to the lobby just for a joke, you know, on a Ranks the comedian, and uh, everybody started laughing, and uh, Mark La Belle, even his road manager was like, yo, that ships hot. That ships hot. And then the next show I did, they had like a box with forty shower cap you know,

over two thousand shower caps. Goddamn have some cars. Just remember back in the day when they're I know you remember this era, the throwback Jersey's yea, yeah, we was obsessed with still right now. Yeah. I used to go to Philly trying to find yeah so in shower caps, the match whatever Jersey and so yeah, that's how serious was. I don't even know it like that. One time I came to a video shoot and I have it on me and Marshall was like, yo, he was na, what do we be a shower cap b It's like, I

was like, what I ain't wear? Did they like gospace without Jersey? Go? Yeah, go get the shower caps. So we have to go back to going to the Sharon Ke because they feeling that ship one of these songs that just heard Marshall He's like described how like he wouldn't do another detwelve record anymore record anymore? How did you feel when you heard that? Because I know personally he probably discussed that what you guys. I don't know if he did, if he didn't, but it seems like

personally discussed that with y'all. But this is the first time he's saying it publicly. Yeah like that. Okay, I heard the record before came out. I don't get the other Fellers hurder, but mean Mr Porter hearder. Uh. I thought it was cool, man. I think you know, I think D twelve kind of you know, got really damping when uh the proof passed away, you know, because that was his baby, that was his thing. But when you say his baby too up this that was Poof's baby

being in detwelve. Yea, he kept together. He was a general yeah, you know, proof like his belief even if like kept everybody aligned like his beliefs and ship that he do like the ship like ship the proof. Dude, I don't think nobody whatever, like no group would ever do that. You have this thing in our group. Like, no matter what you do, you should get the same publishing. So if you write the hook to the beat, we

all split the publics from the same. That makes it a lot easier instead of fighting them bickering over records. But how mean you know what I'm saying, like you really got you know what, you gotta be really a tightening. You gotta be no rest of peace proof And I do this proof that's come on, that's now what I just drink somebody's spirits in that mother, you've always never been drunk before, Okay, so just take them on. It's

obviously we all say eight mile, right. We also eight break it out and we all saw this wonderful moment. Oh you know, uh what what what's what's this guy's man name that he'd beat and um and they got the meme moming right now with the canding on it. Oh ship in the moment and in U what's the So there's a meme right now going on because as I'm gonna tell my kids this is this is Poper Dollar and the Free World. In the free world. Okay, in the free world, Okay, it's real life. Who is

POPA Dot in the free World? Oh and real? Like, like, how accurate is eight? Especially that part? Pretty pretty bad radcrew? So that was a whole another dude, Like, basically what Papa Dot is a symbol of like and basically back in Saint Andrew's days, you had to belong to a crew, a crew. So Papa Dot to me is like a rap crew, you know what, their boys and you're in the crew basically your group, and they fight with you.

You know what I'm saying that they're like a gang because Papa Dot can have a crew and then did. Basically I'm saying Papa Dot the image stuff of I think what they were trying to point was like how how Detroit hip hop was with different crews. Like if you feel like if you was a dope rapper, what you are what I'm saying like, you came to Detroit, you was brand new. You came to Saint Andrew and they're like, yo, when you're from you know you queens man?

You know what I'm saying it's signing up. Yeah. So basically, eventually you would have to choose a crew. So you're saying that that that represents oh ship, hold on, hold on, robots calling you Stevie J. You live on the podcast and live on drink Chance made some nory stee boy. You have to be still here and that's the water. Yeah, I'm righting me on my show. Promise you that's walk into my bad total people got damn't take that my mouth. I got you good. Look at my brother this I got.

I gotta im that I needed your favorite phe I'm so into this substance you're talking about, right, So you basically had the chruth. You know, you have to chop what was this called Papa Dock in the mere running out of the okay, so so free will So like all right, So basically what I'm saying like that that was real, Like m the little crew you like, that's real, Like everybody had a it had to be about thirty crewise.

They can signify a bunch of people. Yeah. Yeah. Basically, so like us, a new rapper, you got to get recruited to being the cruise. Papa Dock in the free world to me, was just another clip the season crew. It was defending, but they're not real that. That's not a real popa doctor. I think I think I know where they were they were going with it. Okay, shout

to the free world. So I want you to describe Detroit for a second, okay, like because I mean anyway, because I see a lot of people don't understand the eight miles seven miles they actually motor city thing. They don't really really get it, like like you know, um, I don't got what trick trick One time, many times one of my first times hanging out trick, Um, I had to be confused with Trick Daddy from Miami's Trick Daddy from Miami. Both I both tricks. Um uh, I'm

I'm in Detroit. Um, I'm in Detroit. He hang, I got my show we hang out, and I totally forgot and I took the shows. I was out doing this role. Get the name of this movie. It's terrible that just you should put up this bigart you were doing. I know that's that's that was an Amazon H know it's trick trick trickers in there, and um what Harrison is in there too? From Joey Roll Joe Roy Yeah, Joe Right.

So I'm out there and in my scene like these these gangsters is supposed to like run up on me and I'm supposed to back up down like yo up things because I'm not supposed to be there. But the crazy ship is the guy that the guy against me. It's from the Straights and the people that got dude, like every train tastes like, oh my god, I'm not so weird. Look what the fun left. Figure out your dudes are real actors and the dudes that are coming

against you. Oh, I called you immediately. I said, hey, we gotta gotta resplaction and place these people that it's here's an authenticity aticity. He was doing like fifteen I keep you not maybe twenty minutes the most, and he's like, I'm on the other side of the town. I was just like, man, he come like, I don't think about I don't know if I remember I said send people. Oh he said not nor I'm coming myself be And it wasn't like no danger because you know now you

just wanted them. It just was like it just was like yo, I could like I kid you not In between texts these guys and they're supposed to be from Detroit. I was just so offended. I was like, no, I'm gonna from I'm gonna be the only fake person that's not from Detroita. What I'm saying like fake Detroit like everyone else. I want authentic Detroit and came through. So I said, I don't want you to describe the a little bit for these people. Like people don't understand and

it's obviously Michigan crisis going on. They're telling me right now that Detroit is being affected the same way a lot of other cities are as well. I don't know what that Detroit got doing. The cleanest water in the world, get out of here. We used to, yeah, weed to sell out water to Flint, and then they got cheap and cut cut their block supply of from US and they started their government. Yeah, they went out there trying to open up the old pipes that they had years.

That's how they end up getting them to that government. Nigga like, I didn't see this ship. He's from from Flint to John Connor. So do they funk? They shut up because they don't want to keep working with y'all. Yeah, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie to you. I don't remember how many years this was. And I was traveling through Detroit and I had to show. First off, I think it was in the St. Andrews. I had to show and most of the gainst this nigga came

out and there was no security. And this is the first time I quoted about it, like you know, like maybe you see that security, like it was someone smoke And I was just like, yo, and it's not. And I drove to my hotel. And as I drove to my hotel, I can see I can see them bright as ship, Like whoa, it's crazy. Then I'm like, I need some swishes. I'm gonna split up real looms, Like alright, cool, we turned to go get two blocks away, two blocks away,

pitts black. You know exactly what you're saying, black, to get to to get to the street. Nothing nothing, the most scary sit you ever seen. Scarious. You haven't see two o'clock in the morning, my dude, like not just having a driver, you don't got you know, you don't got your you didn't call your checks, you didn't cool you. I'm trying to boys, and I ain't call all these dudes, something's out there, just don't know. With the driving and ship.

He's like, you're good like and you're just driving to and then you go from a casino where you know we see those bright lights everywhere. That's the thing is it wakes you up and then just two blocks so baby, two miles. I'm not sure, but it felt like two centuries like you're driving do and then you get out of it bold and then like it's back to like civilization like that. Is that not crazy? I'm not, First of all, I'm not I'm not lying at all. You

know what I'm talking about. Yeah, it's got this this thing out. They're called the green light green light and uh, basically, if you're a business, you can um, you can get the green light um in your business and then it collects go straight to the police, but I think calls like ten to give you something like an alarm. Yeah, to the police station. But if you don't got it because the precincts shut down earlier Detroit, Yeah, man power, so people see that your out of the green light

and your business it's a green light on you. I'm gonna tell you another thing. What's the hotel that's famous and it's outside when you're going like it's outside, it's inside. Like when you you check in and you go to your rooms, like the red of Science Building or something you talk about, it's like you know, you what, yeah, And when you go to your rooms, you can see your homeboy because he's outside. It's a real on the outside. Well, I'm gonna figure this out. I don't want mc sweeties. No,

it's like a Detroit hotel. At least it was there. Well, me and my one boy had a glass fight or whatever. Right, that's beside the point. He had a glass fight because he thinks we was getting off the little bit and he just broke my glass. He just walked away and he didn't say nothing. So I'm just like I just looked at whoever had room service on the floor. I picked it up and just do it at But he's on the other side of the hallway right anyway, Yeah, yeah,

so here's a crazy ship. We have a glass but he walks in my room were we're not trying to hit each other, but we're coming close to each other like the own purpose, right, But like we had to like into politically conversation with each other. And anyway, so he comes to my room. Were like, yeah, we're definitely gonna get kicked out. He comes into my room with his bags. I'm like, yes, I'm already packing my ship

like that coming at some point. Right we turned on the TV the at a twenty peore our Murder Chad like like they had First twenty eight before First twenty eight. I promise you my nig, like listen they had if you see you, Jeff Brandon, she said, up said she's wanted for murder. I know you're talking about Late Night too. Late Night give you like they just they just show you everything that's one of murder. You're like, you give me out of Detroit and me, oh my god, like

everybody's out here on the show. Well oh god, but okay, so yeah, but so and is it really that because they say it's so cold and indeed, yeah, those home girls names did that song I don't even remember. Damn, you're trying to come back to your Detroit, your Detroit past. It's crazy. Remember the whole girl there now it was like a viral thing. That's she tried to come back. I think she tried to do a part two. You know,

what's her name? Has come team baby baby everywhere. When you know that it's so she thought it was hot, you know what I'm saying. So the girls called him. Now you're part of this legendary group. You guys do these records. You guys do these albums. You tour, you do the shower Cat. Now it's coming to the heartwatt back to you, but you go back to you? What is the feeling like? Um? She and a lot more hard work you know about You know, I knew, I

knew my position. You know what I'm saying. Just be bizarre, but uh, one verse to keep. Yeah, go on, go do the study or whatever. But then I I sign my first solo deal with this label called The Sanctuary. Matthew knows. I say, Daddy signed me. You. Matthew knows. Mathews out here while man writing, Well, Matthew knows, calmed down, man, you're the home you called him and him and his uh this cat named Max Goose. I gotta just act hoge man, how does this happen? Matthew knows. They say

they call you and say mom, Mom, Papa, Beyonce. They want to hili that the how? What? What does this conversation exist? Up? Man? Well, my manager at the time, Max Goose, he was prepping me about it. He was like, yo, I think, he said, Matthew is about to start this new label, Carse Sanctuary, and uh, you know, I'm gonna let him. Let you meet him, and you know, see if you want to do a deal or not. And he came to our show in London and then I met him back stage briefly and he told me he

want to do the deal and assignment. And I think the paperwork came a couple of weeks later. Wow. Yeah, I think he put me on a soldier remix the uh that's the child. It was overseas version though. Okay, but I supposed to remember that. I when you said I thinking, I said, wait a minute, man coming up. She started a rounding the man. A lot of ships started coming back. But if you want to know the shot, I respect that he was a little shot. Were gonna

fishing left. But I'm till you boy give me something else inside of the type. I'll take this. It would take that. Also, the Browns. That's not a no, that's a dream. That's not a shock you yeah, yeah, yeah, better. I was already pre warned about the tigers out some water and yeah, so what is what is your favorite moment? What is your favorite moment? And I mean I want it could be whatever the how you wanted to make me give that I got my favorite moment as far

as performing, maybe performing just in music. What was that moment where you was like, you know what, I love this ship? Uh man, I like you know what you get him in the West. I'm about to do warn surround. Yeah, I want all of us to have cool. Yes, true, very true. Algiz So your favorite moment, like probably or proudest moment, proudest moment probably being on the cover of Rolling Stone. Goddamn flow stuff. Next start that. Listen. I can't even fat a little like that. I can't even

fas too crazy, So yeah, so can you? Was on the cover of the Volar motherfucking Stone silttle moment, Let's take a ship, no everyone, so no fair moment was fun? This ship matter. It makes it better because your proudest moment as a group that's the Rolling Stone solo artist. You know, But tell us why that's your problem moment. First, I know it's harsh. I'm sorry, just just just that was like the biggest I think the road stone is like the huge man. Yeah, the leak of you know, magazines,

so nor many rock stars was going on it. So at the time, yeah, we do mean a lot of rappers on the road and stones. Damn to today, I ain't go like a asap rocket or somebody like that, you know what I mean, like for real like type of ship type ship you know my people cool, but solo, I would probably say, like, um, a couple of two things. Uh. I was co hosted Jimmy kimblon before it came out. What Yeah, that was the closest Jimmy Kimble but the night show, the Night Show. But I was on tour

and I told you how proof was. I turned a lot of ship from being on tour. So I had to turn that job down because he was about to do a detwil too. But did you do anything? Did you record on the show? Record like the test shows I was. I did like five test shows. Yeah, that's core. Yeah. So you would have been like the guy on the couch like he was doing like his uncle was the security, the Mexican dude. Yeah, that would have been you. Yeah

kind of like yeah, I'm just the sidekick. Yeah, Jimmy Kimmel. Who's that there was that they just hit this up because you know the videos and bizarre shots. And I think the second will probably would be Adam Sandler. I was supposed to be in the Longest Yard and again he was on tour. So you guys have a rapus. But you did do reality before. You're just gonna say a record like some crazy you know. It was the reality show he was on. He was on something on

VH one. I think I did too reality shows. I did uh teaching uh actors how to rap like a rap conscience. Yeah, you're not doing celebrity fick clup. I was celebrity fick up. Uh. It was cool man still nicker named doctor. Who who are the people on the show with you? Uh? The Celebrity club, Uh, Sunny and Shar's daughter, the one that just had that. Yeah that was hard. You can see you see I got mad at yeow ship on the show. Yeah, uh theree not not that one that from the cost show. Um um

it's two daughters, but that's show. He did a girl from the Partners. How was that experience? Did you enjoyed doing those shows? It was it was weird man I feel like that would be an easy reality show. I want to do a reality show. I want to be a place where I'm not like you know, the ball so a partner where I'm employed. Yeah, but the reality show manipulating situations. Were manipulated just a little while crazy, it was cool. It was cool. I mean it's a

lot of setting up, like setting you up. Motherfucker's be trying to set you up to eat food and ship, set you up just to look crazy, manipulating the situation. Like one time I had We suppose I was flying back from Atlanta to uh Callie every weekend doing the show. So Saturday we would do like activity and then Sunday we would do the way in and for some reason why car service didn't show up at the right time whatever, I end up missing my flight. So did you eat

Dunking Donuts? After that? You kept your dyet? Yeah, I feel like this is what you're about to set He called me the next day and was like, yo, man, you know we bought black brothers. You can't. You gotta get on the flight. I got into it with the production guy. He's like, you gotta get on his flight. Man, brother be black, you know, so I said, all right, I would come out, come, come out there for you. So Sunday I jumped on the flight, but I only

came in for waiting. So they told my team that I was on you know, bizarre, it's no longer to show he abandoned y'all, what do you think about it? So they're taping their opinions because on the show, yeah, not knowing I'm I'm coming back Sunday. So when I get there Sunday first day, they said like, it's so bizarre. You abandoned your team and and never showed up. But they know why I really didn't show up, but it's for TV, and they was like, well, this is what

you're about to say. Was young. She was like, yeah, I know, he wouldn't never come back. You you know, he's serious about to lose and weight ship. And I'm like, wait, bust, bust, yeah, bust, just busting. That's what I mean. That's what kind of like, alright, this ship is. You know what I'm saying, This ship

is fake. They literally trying to set up just for a story, all right, Like fucking it was cool though, man, I mean acting school right now though, Oh yeah, that's like a year and what you've been learning, like man, like did shake spear? You know you did with with the acting ship, Yeah, Bob freestyling, Biz, I've only played myself victory dreams that I only played me. I'm only play a nigger, like I cannot played like I look

at the roles. I was like, just leave it alone at some point of my goal when you know do it? But you like because like if you say you would as a class, so you have to play like Julliard and you like that and um home on Juliette. No, no, I want to like put like all right, So so

how is it actually? Man? It's crazy because like I can give it in front of a crowd of a hundred hundred thousand people in rock, but being in the room with twelve people like the cameras and direct them like camera shot man, Like you're good like improvisation in front of people like almost like freestyling. Yeah, obviously forgetting

my lines. So you can't do a sex scene out of the window for you because man, you know it took me a couple of sixteen you show me a state property, so I don't know, I just smashed at renting? Is the State partment too. I laid next day, but every other girl I was smashing a couple of I'm smelling, but does he I'm gonna throw out. It's very easy not to get I mean, I mean, I'm not sure about I'll just smell every one of them because like five of them. But it was like the one and

the half. Once I smelled, it was not great. So it was easy because you're not supposed to get hard. It's like five people in the room, so it's like, you know, it's you know, it's okay, it's okay because it's like it teaches, like you know what it teaches strip club politics. Now, now you're going to strip club basically be like split bitch. That cameras in front of me, but it's just bouncing back on me. I had to not getting hard. You don't know, Okay, you described it.

I can understand. I got hit juice earlier about some white boys about the massage politics. Just like you aren't breaking and jerking. You want the happy ending. Okay, we're going straight to it. In Atlanta, they got most of every strip club has a massage publer next to it. Only you know that right, We're not gonna definitely the only niggat said you got what massage? Straight to it? Man, you're wasting too much. You waste the money there. Yeah, you wanna get straight to the point. It's not that

smooth man that the as straight for laters. Guy, it's like, you're good. Okay, So let's talk about this atlantasage parts. Okay, I just need another snack because you know, I'm a married man and I'm never partly gonna go there. I'na probably I'm gonna go to the strip club park. But you're saying at a strip club. There's a next thought to it as massage part. It's the massage part of with Asians. Asians is there they're exclusively come on, come guys,

he said. He said, yes, Dominican one one time that I can't under stay. What's up about? No, I wasn't young. We stopped like, go to the one next the winkies, right, get a spicy chicken nutting's on the way out, big up the sports and drink. Okay, so um to engage now, so I apologize for your engagement. I need to know the wildest groupie story, Oh man, I need to know it. Damn wild group. It can be for deech Wall, leave it for you. It has to be the chick that

says you're bizarre, So be bizarre. Nigga, let us here, let us here on fighting for you. So you gotta be you gotta you gotta step up what she do. She liked the joint fun. I had some girls that wanted me doing uh fucking while they wear my shower cap. I can't see that. You can't see that. I didn't describe it though, what happened. I think for some reason, I feel like it said it's in the Sherrington Hotel. She wants you to talk background, but scause you know,

shearedon got some good shower cats. She shouts, they got some great shower cats. Man, I think, uh man like uh a lot of our fan bas you know. And he was like he was so white and uh, only like the white girls. I don't white, don't. I don't really don't like dealing with white girls with boopy ship really because they change their mind too quick. Do you get Kobe Bryant out here? I mean they changed it in a second. Our security guard he used to make

this announcement all the time. He'd be like, you ain't sucking a sucking Get off the book. That really ship, real ship, that's a real ship. We had no sad speeches, and we head of Joe White speech too. We also tell people piez those pistols of goddamn that episode. Don't don't let me tell you all about Homie Court because your homie corn. Okay, please write that down, he started, But uh, yeah, what was I talking about? What was it like groupies white girls? Because sucking a sucking Yeah,

I'm secarity is so mad. A married man, I don't remember that, so you don't apologize. I started. Once I discovered a back page holy ship that you had the city before you live hold on, I was on to talk. I got, I got, I got, I got, I got my Bosston boys with me. I've got city boy d, I got Coca rest in Peace Coca and we got to Jaga. Right. So I realized my young boys as young boys, and I'm married and happy. So I get them in the whole of the vehicle, right, you get

them a whole other vigas. I want to come home, as you post, I want to come home, and I know how this ends. So the crazy ship is, but I'm happy for my young boys were performing every night. The girls are coming towards us. I'm like, all right, cool, So I'm like, I'm not one of your boys. You don't gotta when I leave, you don't gotta leave. Yeah, I got post up the party little stop because I leave. My young boys would even try let you out and

then go straight to black Page's Black Page. Yo. I'm like, yo, just talking time with you life, Like get the phrase is it? Let me spend you The difference between white and black girls. Um, a black girl she knows she hitting your card two or three o'clock the board and going back. They know. But time it is. You know what I'm saying, Like, unless you're talk, I just want to talk. You know, they're gonna tell you. I ain't trying to fun. They're gonna tell you white girls what

I learned, just like you could. You know, you could be in there making a home. You do the kinds of put like that. You got some rocks. You can know the cos he's doing. He's right here ahead. You could be talking and the white girl like and she'll just you know what, stop we're going to fact and too fast. And then five minutes later she said we don't even know each like that, and you're like, you're just going through this all night. So one day when my role manager, he was a white boy, I said,

what you're doing, man? He said, I'm about to call himself this chick off back page. I said what backpage? He said, yeah, you can even see how they looked the picture everything. So I went to the room, like, damn, she bats him. How much she want? You know what I'm saying, Am I credating myself doing that? You made the first play this ship and this will end up on backpage backpage? You want a sponsorship? So to me, it was much easier, you know, back in there was

to the point. And then at the end of the day, like you know what I'm saying, if you everybody, if you do got a gril, you did have a girl, you know your girl gonna call after the show. She don't want to talk to you all that ship. Hey, I'm done all these other guys. You know. You know you know what young boys told me that They told me that they older homies told them. Yeah, my nigga's on Boston. Goddamnit, my big up mother, Puny, I miss you. I haven't seen you black boy, Coca Coca. You know

Sunnyde's cousin rest in peace. You know, we love you, brother. And mon Taker was there and I said, Yo, why y'all spend money every night? You don't pussy? Then? Afraid you know what he said, We don't pay them to stay. Wait were you talking about that back pays you pay? Yeah? Oh no, then I'm from the plenty of fish era. Yeah, yeah, you stand like when you're not paying, she might want to spend the night, she might get emotions. Just you just saying she displaced the homies and a lot of

people with the girl with your hat. Now you ain't got your hat on the more, you know what I'm saying. So this is a side of pimp and Perry Prime. You're leaving, you know, and Detroit. You know what, the niggas got gailors and all the type of these niggas got car their frames and gators and silk shirts and all types of animals. And them niggas be they move like they'd be stepping on that my mind. I was

also checked by that manager Rico. I was also told that, uh, the real big on glasses man, Yeah, I'm big on glasses. But I can't afford that. He told me. He told me like, don't even go to drink. Champions ain't real because nowhere it's gonna Oh yeah, I'm walking out. Oh yeah, y'all in the glasses. I'm an end the glasses Manki didn't play men that nig he is still going on.

What'sn't they play? Players? Still be But that's like some real Detroit ship like around for a long time, Like you had to have gators, like you ever got pressure, like to go to the problem, like in the problems, you have gators on the problem. Yeah, no, I ain't going to the plum tam. I ain't going to problem.

I was. I was like, we got a story. But because I ain't neither on that nom gonna take you gonna keep it going this yeah, keep keeps gas why three two back page back page back So, so explain us only court because we all got court in every crew. So we want to explain y'all, y'all homie. Court basically started from Dre and his crew got passed down to us, and it's basically like rules, who's Dras crew? I'm sorry to catch up, Who's Drays crew? You say we just

don't understand what and what you say. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's called homie court. Basically it was. It's rules for the homies on the road when it comes to like, you know, females whatever, no kissing in the mouth. I feel like you. We got charges, like you know, one charge would be like harboring a known freak, explained the details of that kind of harboring. Non freak is like a freak that basically want to do everybody, but you take your till you like you take a hostage. Yeah,

not real hostage. And we got one called you kept the safer home eating road kill after someone don't eat the girl pussy to do that? So who kid was but not someone fu? Yeah, it's on the road period after the he's just so who kid was like a notorious eventual offender? Okay kill No, just a homy court period. I cauld see I could seek yeah yeah. So we uh we were like, so basically you gotta get a lawyer, which is somebody somebody on the tour. Yeah, they'll they'll

put us a peanut under your door. You charge, Yeah, I think that way for other do you get something, you gotta find you a lawyer. And then then find a judge one of your friends. Yeah, I mean you know, whether you whever you want being like somebody like you know Paul or Drain will be the judge, whoever whoever's around. And then we have this big gass meeting. Everybody gotta come down to the lobby or they might even ask for a conference room at the until you know what

I'm saying. And then you get your charges brought up against you, and then like if you lose, you in like three days, you gotta clean the bus. That's also some serious money us that he lost the case. They be the wear boxers outside the pins and say I love detwelve. Do you everybody walked past? Yeah? Two he lost. That's when we started touring with the g uh. I was warding everybody like they out lost. I mean they

only they don't listen to the room. So one of my homies he had this chick he was I think it was a Seattle tune where we had this chick and he said, you want my chickens in the lobby. I said, yo, you need to go get her. And g then is in the lobby right now. You know Philly fifty kid like entourage run, So I said, you you better get her. He was like, nas, I get rid of the room. She good, she's about to come up. So I said, I said, bro, we should go get him. And so we went down to the lobby and we

grabbing right family. So we grabbed the chicks. So we're getting them the elevator and uh, loring banks. But somebody else is on the elevator when opened, so they're in the back of the elevator. So the girls are in the middle of the elevator and we're in the front, so they we can't see what they're doing and talk about nothing. We all we know because we're facing this way.

So when the door opens, supposed to get off our floor, we get out and cheecks about to get out waters and I just see, uh, I think, yeah, you're one of them pushing the button, and the waters were like, che man, give me that one more shot. Everybody could do watermelons. Why the watermelons wich that out? I don't understand we had that. We had that last time stuff got something. He said, yeah, yeastily, I don't understand why you'd be acting like I'm bugging out last time we

did it. But tore Lane said he's been doing the front you know. Listen looked at him. I said, Yo, look I'm leaving a bow share f r. Yeahbody, because just like my bill was everything again Jack as the whole. They took out wires and connected to the turd tables next nor what it's good, worse terrible. It was making bad as the need is taking up for them to like, yeah, we didn't have one about mother over. I looked at

one about the surrock. I took it with Tory, you know, like sugar our award, right, our broken award is gone, our famous award. Let's cats are out. They still that ship you active, Yeah, he's still looking for Mortima that she was famous and we lost this guys a trim this bro gotta change something, go back to back then. So everything's going on. I know I've asked this earlier,

and I know we winded. But as Eminem being one of the Ellis lyricists in the world, are you offended that Nick Cannon is really like going at him like that, um, because like I mean, Nicks my boy, but he's not he's not lyricist, lyricist lyricis but he's but he does consider himself because we had to interview him, and I feel like he feels he's hip hop, so he feels like it's it's you know, he want to respond, he want to battle. Yeah, but do you think that was

like bad that he involved with the people? You think? Yeah, I think that was courty. But because then it makes you like, automatically, you, Jordan Lucas, have to be involved,

he said, wasn't they want to involve mad people? Jordan Lucas, Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, there was kind of corny, especially when you got when you got four dudes in the video of Wild and Out T shirts at Nick Candid, Don't I just come for an error where like, you know, the group with all the same T shirts on, right, you know what I'm saying, So to see them in the back of the Wild and Out T shirts on and then like

I mean, the don't know what they say? Maybe you those only did four bars and then he got the chicks singing, I mean the dude singing the R and V hood. It was just what should saying? I haven't heard it? What did you saying on the record? I forget what what does show saying? Like I'm gonna respond to twenty four hours. He should be kicked out of the short. He should be saying ship, hey man, trying to help me win this appeel, so I get the streets. Um,

have you ever bumped into the show in real life? Uh? Yeah, a couple of times. Uh. The first time I've seen it was at the in the club video about to say I felt that that was the first video. No, that's another story with proof. Okay, I know you heard about that story. The first story. Yeah, we were doing the club video and uh, I just remember, yeah, he had damn you know. Yeah, he put up with some with some with some essays. It was kind of weird

and uh he stopped. The whole partnership was like and uh uh fifty of them stopped. It was fifth Game was there too, and we all stopped and we and Soft was like, what's up? What you want to do? Look that should and I remember should. He pulled a cigar out. He puffed it, looked at Fifth and then turned around and walked away. But don't think I mean they was ready many Yeah, well, you know that was

the first time I've seen him again. The second time I've seen him as in Vegas, and I think I think Trick Tricker all of us is in Vegas, and uh, people was calling me from my room like yo Trip yo, yo, should knightdown stairs. So just as a fan, like you know what I'm saying, like we like that, let's go see, let's go see after the other thing that happened. Yeah, so we're all going downstairs to see to see shut Night. And I remember Trick Trick came downstairs or either was

either Trick Trick or one of his boys. One of them. Somebody was like right in front the ship there was like, man, he ain't even that big like that Black put up his ship and h I think Proof came down there and uh, Should reached out to shake his hand and Proof left him hanging, and uh yeah, Proof of the man. And the Should was like, oh that's how it is. You ain't gonna, ain't gonna get him my hand shakes. You know, let's step outside it and talk Proof, Like

step outside. That's how that's how Podet killed. But you know what I'm saying, So I think that was the end of that. Should was piste off. But man, you know we're from Detroit, man, so it's like we don't really get what's going on with the The politics is secary because you know we were we didn't know what was going on at the source of awards. We used the only words that didn't run, you know, the source of Awards when it should came in with the army

and proofs, like why ambody running? That's all I heard? Shot motherfucking starts scattering, and I was like, damn, the Bible wars. So the Bible wars. What was it in New York? No, it wasn't. What's it New York? But forty them how to fight with back minister and the audience. It was mad fights going with the young bucks. No, no, this is it was just before that, after that. Now this is this is before that forty forty got a fight in the audience. Uh should came d like I

think that r dre was. Man, what's this the same time as a dump puncture? I don't know. I do a lot of drugs, if some of the ship might be a lot of I see Mr Lee walked out because there was noise out there. We're gonna do one more shot of some ship. You want to do Columbia White doing all right? And you know if you don't got call me white? Is where it's that you want to do it Greek like me? Don't. I'm gonna stake with rock. I'm gonna stick with calling me white. What

do you want to stick with? Good? You gotta do threes like you know, man, I never did a shot every so doing too its yeah and then three shot like that. I'm gonna be a nauseous man or stuff. You ain't you want to drink chat? You know, this is what we salute. All that just you know what, And the fact that you've been doing this man since motherfucker ninety six nineties seven. I wasn't doing this man, uh,

continuing to live life man and having fun. Man. You know what I'm saying because I'm surprised like you and him would have felt out at one point. Did you all out at one point? No? No, no, you never got mad at him like a little bit of course. Okay, your friends friends real friend trip. Yeah yeah, that's real friends. I get mad at f and all the time, so back can get mad at me every day. It's just okay, Um,

you me and Polo, same ship. Come on, you wanna this is light ship, This is this is good good, better and I'm gonna k yeah, yeah, stick with the doctor. We're gonna get some docking and ship the three shots. Everyone's gonna look huh. How about the trophy? Mr lady, we're imported to the trunk. Hey did you find out a trophy while you're out there? Come on, baby, come I know you know yoa ship? Come on? Where are you find this? Now? You would take that this is watermelon.

I'm gonna do the dirk. Okay, I do dok alright because I just said through all blood live, you're gonna like it. Okay, because there's water another guy, Davis, that's out of the crazy. I'm black. I can say I'm black. I can say if we are, y'all make clean. If you are black, you or can make me connected to light ship. I'm just telling you I like to black and I'm black black. I don't know, but like I'm black black, you know what I mean? That's it. I don't know. One can't wrote me on the drink, on

the drink to go make it tin super. I'm gonna one of those right now. Just just just a little bitter that come on a little more, a little bit more than that. I'm gonna be thrown up on drink that's not solute. That's cool and how intimidated? What's it to get on that mic? Let's say Andrews. Oh man, that's the place and what they called it a mile they call it? Uh? I think the Drews Drews. Yeah, very intimidating, man, because you got to be the best. What I'm saying, the best of the best. But the

hip hop Shop was even more difficult than that. What's the pick then it's the hip hop Shop. No, it's a Saint Andrews. The Saint Andrews is more. I think they kind of mixed it together. When we know battles going on there was more so they kind of like put the both in. Yeah. Yeah, the battles are going on at the hip hop shop. So in Detroit, what's the most legendary battle you saw that's in coming up that maybe you even got that, maybe even got a hotel.

But you said, man, this is what makes me want to do this. Yeah, by seeing like I think, uh, I think Conniver and Marshall battle one time. That was a good battle, and all the battle was good because remember the way that a thing in an eight mile where he started himself. H yeah, that was that was one of the schemes that they did that really happened. No, no, no, but I'm just saying, just say, I can't see him before. We're kind of like play a little you know, I'm

white whatever, because that was the vote thing. You know, we always have to defend like, oh he word, you know what I'm saying. So were you not his big homie? Like, weren't you out before him? No, I'm the youngest, I'm a little So who were the piety, like the guys that you grew up in Detroit that that the m or you were looking up to already? H I c P Detroit most warned, awesome trade. That's crazy if Breed you know what, I always thought he was from the

Bay for some damn reason. Yeah, yeah he was smooth. Yeah that was smooth racist. Yeah, because you just do everybody from the smooth at that time. Smooth racist. Yeah, that's what we grew up listening to. And then and then uh jeez, this is not a history, I know, man, of goddamn motherfucking history. No, man, it was. It was. It was crazy back there, man. Now, how about Biggie, because Biggie gonna come into Detroit big players. Um you remember that he was too young. I don't remember him,

you think, yeah, I remember you. I remember like rappers. We started making rappers come to the hip Hop Shop. And I remember one time proves out of time. He said, yo, be and need you to hold it down for me. Uh why am I the town? I want you to host the host of the hip Hop Shop And uh fact Joe was coming there tore that week, so I didn't even host the fist. Actually he came in there, snatched the wipe up back here Joey cracking ahead and he got the bits. I mean he had to crack it,

you know what I'm saying. Shot saw the tragic made he went to a lot of underground. Yeah. We was happy because you know, he was doing a promot it. He didn't have to come there. It wasn't like a spot property that was on to He was coming as an underground ship. Bro. Yeah, that was like a big moment in my life where well I definitely felt like it was reachable, you know what I'm saying. Started doing

this ship because he was like bad yeah man. And then just by him coming to our element and I mean he was in a cipher, but physically seen someone. You didn't see somebody who made it at that time, being you know, I mean we used to go to North we used to wrap. It's a favorite story that Ev gave bat Joe his demo. Take five times he did, Yeah, he did. Yeah, yea many day days because if it went for Wendy, Yeah, we gotta have Wendy down Maneah Wendy. Wendy kind of put us on the way because she, uh,

she was coming to Detroit for a music convention. I told Marshall, like, yo, we gotta we gotta go see Wendy. You know, you know she was for it. All these people getting that cash money Yeah, cash money yea. So we went to the hotels. He was following the cash. Yeah. That was hard. It's hard at that time. I need to know this stuff. He gave hit my visit, he gave him, he said, hey, my name Marshall. He gave her her demo, his demo, and she was like okay.

We walked away. We actually left because we had no business to being at the convention. We couldn't afford it. But he said Marshall, yeah, not Eminem. He didn't have him in them at the time. No, he said, it's really but when he like, I guess she felt he was she was older or something. That's the most nonp I almost never said okay. So she called him up a week later and was like, yo, I fun with

your tape. Um, I'm throwing this rap battle and Cali and his signed rappers versus unsigned rappers, and she said, this guy named Juice is going to be the team captain. And I don't know about you know about Juice from Chicago. He was like, it's crazy. The end, it's battle Rapper rapper back then him and Marshall actually battle before. So Juice wanted Marshall to be on his team. And so I think it was Juice Marshall and a lot of people don't know techno. I was on that. They were

a team too, and it's not this is that. So they flew out there and then they battled most of them cats from the Freestyle Fellowship, like you know, a c alone all the Medusa. So they battled, and you know, if it wasn't but if it wasn't for Wendy Day, you know, m pick up the Wendy Day, that's no bizarre and be honest, something that's been sucking me the whole night tonight only yes, right now, this whole time.

You got on the Jeane jacket plaid sleeve for time I have never seen nothing like You're in four different wells cats. What are you doing? What is that? What is designed by? I need to know? Like I don't because listen to gen Jacket sleepless go by right, you're great, but it up the Lama jack. That's it, says Detroit, all right, but then the fire says Antarctica. Why where were you going with this? Detroit man? We really inter dresses and you don't think it's going to be cold

everybod cold. Don't you don't even hurt anything. You don't need that at all. I mean no, we we get for two hours, and you know what, I can't complain. I can't wait to complain to my people up top. I like, it's forty degrees out and they're like, mother god man, you know our friendly degrees. It's I got a goose with the shorts. It's yeah. So where is that Is that a design you made or that's something exactually said, that's just figuring up. This is actually just

black company out of they called me Calp. I might be named cal Lakobe. I say that my cal sounds like a Takella company. Yeah, they're black on the compob Yeah okay, and they kind of they got a lot of ship with fur O. So they didn't make that for you. It's in my mind. I felt like, this is you. Yeah, I wish they would have made Yeah, but uh yeah, man, you know mccobe, Yeah, Kobe, Kobe, shout to m Kobe. Got damn that was the Nori Club. Yeah, I got that. So I'm gonna take a little show

of Watermeluth. Come on, but what do you got one left at me? And I'm gonna be honest. I gotta go home. Yeah, I gotta go now, I gotta go. I just know it's just something. Stay here, we go, we stay right there. Yeah, we talk. I don't gotta go though, but I's take it on the show. I mean you don't have to. Yeah, I'm so um yeah. Yeah, but you got a question. I wanted some rock you do Yeah, goddamn, listen just click the park last song. I see that me said that the rocks lighting the table.

That is not that you did not say that. Let it I see if I have a robot, big up to Tim. Can't you tell the robot robot tivity? You don't know? I gotta robot about about I don't know about like legals got nigger at the first you know, first change key one of the jetson's right, first check the funk like you know, you know, training up phone, you know your first brothers, you know not that excuse me not training from rap person? Keep you from since

So yeah, who got the first robot nigger? Oh? On first family of drain on amazonas want all the way good time here? Oh he follow Yeah, ro if I get in the hands off keeping, it's gonna robot keep mind. Yeah, but now you put it on and bring it here. Someone don't don't make it. Hey, that's a crazy man. Listen, man,

would you say? Was the question me? I'm sorry, Yeah, I'm saying that the robot don't make this ship if someone puts it on the plane and bring it to What I do is I can program it or a Telly, So I go say, go ask for somebody like it's it's it's it's perfect. Handover with you when I when I'm hung over, which i'm tomorrow, So tomorrow you to use it. I'm not I don't know, gonna be hung

over to mom A right, huh. But when I am hungover, what happens is I always want my water, but I want to get out of bed, so I just want to lean over and drink some water. But my fucking son is sucking other age where he thinks it's not cool anymore to bring me some fucking water. So you know the fuck you bounds the root. I can send the robot to the kitchen. The kitchen will meet my son in the kitchen. All you gotta do the gullage room, put the water in the drink, and then she'll go

right to my ro right exactly the right. Now. I suppose I don't want to. I suppose I've sat down on them in the bathroom. That's what I broke out it for in the bathroom, and I want to run out of the run out of the Swisses. It was the same thing, and put the Swisses on the joint for be right to the bathroom. About to say right out of tissue, No, you know what, I ain't even it's a found that I am. I ain't even think about tissue. How are you thinking about running out of

He's what about running out of weed? And especially yeahbody verybody asked the weed man like you know what I mean. But yeah, I'm the first backban Winter Road. But I think you nis gotta recognize and you definitely you don't need to. You don't need to. You don't slid slow. Oh so Jesus dr Dre in the studio man was mainking the album What's going through your mind? Man? First of all, you know, I never smoked a good California weed, so I was damn the coma to every day. Just

what was this kind of stre smoking the weed? Yeah? He you know, he was one of the do I smoked with because you know, I' only person that group to smoke Scott mail Man mail Man Scott, so you know, whatever else was around, but man, it was it was dope man. Because uh, just watching Drake created you know

what I'm saying, Like like the way he records. You had the musicians in studio and they just keep it that player running and they just playing ship and they play sampling the hill just some reason like his drums would just sound like a fucking storm. Yeah you ain't just fucking you don't used to go through like two or three speakers a week. He were blown like two or three, So definitely the angels. Angels man, yeah, Man, so just seeing him and there we're all creating because

he gives you the skeleton beat. First, you get you a skeleton aother beat. Then he was around the vocals. Yeah, I think I think you wrap it in. That's where the sauce come over there. It yea your premiere, No never will Why we didn't make that happen on dreams? Yeah, you know what hold on those alchemists. Alchemists that's his white brother. Yeah, that's all right. Do you want a premier b it'd be crazy, Yeah, that would be him

a voice sound great together shouting to them. Man, they got that they got coming out on I think they don't have another line. Yeah, I think they have another prodform anniversaries too, had one. But man, is there anything else you want to tell the people? Man? You know us know man with a bizarre Man, I got a podcast and working the c c s S. You shound to c You signed to the c w W c c S, c s S. The CBS is a serious it was a simusing deal. You have a CBS. Yeah,

for the podcast. I think it would do somebody else there, somebody else, but because they got bought like three times that Yeah, we've been going through it. Yeah, and we'd love to grab our rights back. Says too much. Okay, okay, y'all started at CBS, right, yes, yeah, big of everybody was starting us at CBS. Shout out CBS. We've got no man. I guess that movie. Hold on, it's the first time I'm sorry, I'm gonna less, you're finished. The

first time I had a Snoop Dogg roach. You know that's that's that's a Snoop Dogg roaches, but it's a bigger long roach. What what's? What's that we've got over? Because that ship is the first thing she was smoking was crazy shit I came with was serial milk, jet Field and July. So what I did was, I'll be honest. The reason why he passes nobody it's not because I didn't wash my hands before and after, but I wrote

it on the toilet. So I just don't see you're that courteous, don't curteous, because I just went like if you like told me like yo yo, So so you know you were rolling ship that I was, you know, I was shipping at the town. I wouldn't want to smoke, so, you know, so I felt very uncomfortable, like you know, I don't pass. So I was like when I wrote it on the toilet, some of the last rolls come on on the toilet. But I don't want to share that with everybody. Now, I don't want to share the weed.

I just don't want to share that, the fact that I might have been un Santuary time sect Sancuary get out, but it's a sanctuary because ship after I rolled, but it never took us. I mean to take a shower. I've got ship and everything, but I don't take a shower before I roll it, so you know, might not remember, might not feel good to everybody. This is a dirty, complicated story. It is to me to because this nig is like it's sunny, was smoking and he isn't give

a funk Like I smoke it. I smoke it, didn't you roll it on the toilet and like I got the worst case of diarrhea, doesn't matter, like you know the kid, you know what I mean. I'm so sorry I got anything you want to tell the people who God damn it. Please, Oh man, I gotta new album out called Rufus. Rufus. I think that's your name is verse name. Ain't gonna lie you like the third they got no name Rufus's because you know, it's like you gotta be like really from the South, South name Rufus,

Like that's some real South eat eating squirrel. Like when you eat your name is Rufus. You made the squirrel the South. They're saying, like, I know we're do the public of the South. You're still the sounds mighty. You all know, like a real nigg like city city, city, city, like from named Rufus. When you Rufus. Your parents are from the Deep South and my life yeah I'm a junior and your parents from the South. Though, you don't eat squirrel like he said. He said he's thinking about

he's like left all right, like squirts. Listen, man, I know nig's name ruf It's I don't squirrel or something. There's something going taste like chicken. Yeah, everybody's saying that like alligator. It's like chicken. It's like this is the reason why we gotta stop eating chicken. You know't eat chicken because when everybody saying it tastes like that, and I'm sorry you eat chicken or I'm fortunately okay, I still eat chicken. I'm still look, I'm still a leg round.

So you gonna to terry, Yeah, I don't. I don't eat pork and beef and any red meat, but um boil. I'm sorry, a little bit shot on the boil. Come where so boot your minel catch up called Salada mind mine as man isn't catch up catchup? You listen, I'm listen. I don't want you to do that. I don't want you to do that as a real Spanic. Don't you dare go to the public or Walgreens and get a minele catch up. It's horrible. I don't over the making

yourself you can't evolve. Listen to white people who made that minel catch up, I call it mine catch up catche y'all. It's just expectable, y'all, Like as a Latin know, like like it's like, yo, you can't do that. That's like getting I can and selfish and I can't. You can't do that. Somebody needs to be kicked in the net. Kick you in the neck. I'm sorry, you know I'm a fat boy because you know what's I'm sorry as a coming when we both either what's your baby food?

Dish man? Nowadays a salmon. When I was younger, it was a poor our state. Grandfather told me the state don't cost it would cost less than fifteen in the real state made it expensive, that's all. That's all. Yeah, man, I mean, what's your favorite food? I'll tak a pizza. Pizza man? All right back there, give me some speak

your question. Man, as a rapper doing this for so many years, like twenty years, would you say that you were addicted to the road and like when you was at when you get home and it breaks, you feel like that we need to get out, Like, no, you're absolutely right, thank you for pulling my card. No, absolutely, I wasn't into the road because I think I'm to hotels I stay. Yea. Is it addicted or you're used

to it? That might be a difference. Yeah, I feel like when I'm at home, I'm I'm here temporary, like what's what's the next move? You know what I'm saying. I don't I don't get this being I'm just at home, Like even when I'm home, did it to that I sometimes I get a hot room and where I'm from like stare for a week. No, I get that, Yeah, I totally. I mean it's crazy too. I saw the contract just eighteen so I've got more of the road life and I have of the other life. So I

rather feel like that. Sometimes I'd rather just like feel like I was just coming downstairs. But how about understand that's four shots, but I got five for that? Only none of you? Yes, what's what I'm saying? How y'all negg in Kasa? You don't say shoot cool? I know you'll a friend of there, like shoot programm. Y'all ain't gonna help me out? Not to y'all like listen, you ain't wollow me out? Do do do? Do? Colombia wife and somebody help. Somebody helped us all. Somebody gave us all.

I mean, somebody take a shot for us. All, come on, step it upright last, I just gotta ask from Dream Champs sake, can I get one? I ain't gonna lie being honest and my friend with you, everybody ever saw you, they've always been kind of me, always been good or it's been crazy for Dream Champs Classic segment, I think kind of in the answer. Already, alright, bizarre, do you,

he asked. I feel like we know the answer if it's still like you're a were or we're like you're an ass a sword, Yeah, yeah, yeah, we have a friend. Then at the game he called himself an ass Saorius like, okay, he's an yeah he and then eats it. He said that, No, no, you got me. I don't know that. I've never known. Man. I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I want to know it's your I don't think it's bad. I made him through you, so I'm gonna make sure I'm protecting me. It's my

old relationship. I'm not gonna even protect the Sunny. No, I don't Sunny protect himself. He's he's okay, you want to shot at a shot? Call me a shot. Called me. By the way, I don't know if you know. This is what the Colombians drinking. They stiff up from come cocaine, and then they smoke in a cocaine and then they dreaded the cocaine. And then but I care a man, so I ain't gonna be like and s free, what

are you doing? I thought he was gonna drink coming wait everything, I just said, what you're going out with that sugar freaking I'm I'm like, three's only big. You don't keep everything that's not He's water right now. So I'm not gonna be live and trying to trade them back there crazy too for a minute. So this is that real last brother, we got tune minutes taking the shot right and be good. My money, my boys been. I don't not like damn, that's that's real. That's this

real ship hold right. Holy, I thought I thought. I thought when I came in, he was gonna like, I think, like you're taking a shot. This this job is detriment. Yeah, but you know what it is. I'm gonna be honest. I didn't really get to this and hip hop. We gotta stop praising each other. We gotta saying I appreciate you. You know D twelve, Like you said, it was a group that you know, came up there with woot came

up there. We stopped. It was proof, you know, I was that was a question I was going to ask you, was how it was after proof? But you know, me looking at your face and me looking at your eyes, I don't even want to ask that question because you know why. I already know the answer because I know the audience is probably like that, you know what I mean, And so that's totally up to you. That was my totally last question. If you want to answer how it was after proof is but I'm a day like this.

I don't mind either way if you want to, because you know, we probably never get in. We'll probably never get something that could you think we ever would ever do something like this? I don't know, man, I don't know why. I feel like he would. I know that it doesn't seem like he would, but I feel like he's so hip hop. But might you want to? You want to end this on it's like, you know, describing how and if not, that's totally fun, bro, you know

what I mean. Just you just describe, you know, for us looking from the outside then and you you know, describing how much of a leader he was, you know it was. It was about the process at once, because for the first ten hours of it, they they had me as a suspect. Yeah, but I was. I was in Atlanta. I lived in Atlanta. But I guess wherever he got the hospital he got dropped off. I had the dude told the people to emergency that the name was bizarre, so trying to process in passing and be

a name as a suspect. You know what I'm saying. It was I didn't know that, Yeah, it was. It was. It was about the process. So but I think, you know, the third album, we kind of rushed into it to try to get the paint away. So we I think we went to Callie and we started working in the next D twelve ol woman, I don't think she was coming out right because Proof was literally like like the

leader Optimus Prime. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So it was like so many decisions that leads to be made and think things we've done it just the leadership just weren't there no more, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, it was a big thing, man. Like the funeral was like, you know, Proof was like the marriage truly called the Mayor Detroit.

So it was like it was like super super hood man. Like, Like didn't you know the part where they get like the preacher to tell everybody to say some words before you know, before they closed the cast or whatever they had dudek They're like, yeah, man, he was more nigger, you know that? Pretty like please no cusins in the church, you know me, and we used to everybody like damn. So it was just one part that was real famous in our city. So this lady, she gets up, uh

on the stand. She says, hey, I don't know proof, but my father was David Ruffler from the Temptation. She said, so I know about death and being in the music business and this and that, and I just want to say, you know, shout out to Dr dre Eminem, you know, hoping us with the city all. And she said, and I just want to say, go buy my new son album. And everybody starts saying and she was still taught, so I was just like, what the fund type of food?

He started off speech, No one, I don't know. Yeah, and then she went to promoting her son is up. It's I think outside and think it's just selling T shirts. You know what I'm saying. They have music bumping. It was just like, damn, this ship is wow, Like you know what I'm saying. So it was it was a lot of the process, man, and you know, what's the crazy ship something? He appreciated it if he was alive,

you know what I mean, And that was alive. But I mean, I mean, you know, That's what's something that we're trying to do with Drink Champions. If we could do anything celebrating off that culture and if our Latino culture and I'll just culture period or hip hop coaching is to celebrate our lives. Now. You know, one thing I respect about New Orleans is you know, when the person dies, they motherfucking celebrated his birthday, Because I mean, why not celebrate his birthday like he died? You know

what I'm saying, why not do that? Wh're not not reverse the process, um and uh the thing, and it just you know, just celebrate life every day saying like I always tell people, I had to Auntie that party every day and she would tell me that was somebody's birthday, and kid, I didn't kid. When I came there, she would tell me it's a different person's birthday, whether she was lying to me or not. I just always enjoyed hanging out with that Auntie. And that's what we want

to do with Drink Champers. You know what I'm saying, everyone's motherfucker's that the process of fucking great fucking time, a great funking attitude, and that's whether fucking is man, you know, Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs, hosted by yours truly d J E F and n O R E. Please make sure to follow

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