Episode 194 w/ Cipha Sounds & Kardinal Offishall

water drink Chance. Yeah, y'all Amazon, Right now we have a killer combination. If you put these guys together, you might get Rihanna if you get one of the DJs. The DJ is one of the first DJ to break Rihanna, not only a part of the discovering them and one of the first people not in Miami I ever heard back Ross before in my life was on Hot ninety seven. This man paid this now. The other man is the standing that sell Us is uh a national treasure, a

country man for his country. I mean, if it wasn't this the first a rap I've ever heard from his country. I didn't even know they had your makings over there since back down to Mama. He's been monkey sucking this game since fourteen years old. See old footage of him. He had a gunny event and he's been out here. He's been making moves and celebrating and doing what you gotta do. You put these two together, you got it

right now. If you don't know who I'm talking about talking about Sight for Motherfucker's South, we've been calling out fish called it and I'm just I'm gonna start with you right because it was something that was crazy. I've seen you go on the UM because you just came from Kenya and you went on this show and then on the show they showed footage of you a fourteen year old you, Yo, do you remember what I'm talking about? Yo? Were doing this dude? Yo? Like yeah, I'll be honest.

What's what's interesting about about Toronto that people don't understand. We've been We've been infiltrating for a long time from the gradar, you know what I'm saying. Like as a little kid, um twenty minutes from New York. My nigga buffalo is right there. So it's like you know, big up, shout out to everybody that grew up on w B. Okay, but like there was two ways when we were younger,

like to get hip hop. One of them was tuned in too be okay when they played like mostly phone for then sometimes you know what I'm saying, Like I'm talking like ll coo, I need love, Like you know what I'm saying, Rundy made Fresh cleared early to midday. You know what I'm saying. So it's either that or it's like because a lot of us, especially in the neighborhood that I grew up in our neighborhoods I should say, were Caribbean, so you already know. Once they need Jamaica,

they go a few places. They're going Toronto, New York, Miami, um, London. You know what I'm saying, Like it's your chief places. So everybody that that I knew, we all have family in New York. So what used to happen is niggas used to go to New York, especially broken the Jamaica queens or queens happened, you know what I mean? Shout you shout out to cambridg Heights. You okay over that word. So we used to go there and make him little cars tapes. You know what I'm saying, You bring it

back to the neighborhood. Everybody get a dog. So like we was right there. So I'm talking like for me, like my the first ship that I had that I really like understood that I love love hip hop because you know, im Peter my Pops. He was a DJ, so I mean I grew up with him playing all types of record, you know what I mean, Like he had like the original pressence of like sugar Hill Gang

and all that ship. But like from me, my cousin had a rock Uh Rocks and Shawnte like back in the Dame and UTFO and all that when Shawnte was like you know what I'm saying, like doing I was a Rocks and Revenge, yo, Like that was you know what I'm saying. Like for me, I remember staring at the boom box and I'm saying that just literally just staring at the cassette going around. I was like, yo, that that was it for me, you know what I'm saying.

So that's that's kind of like the earliest time I felt was that because like I mean, as far as I remember, you was the first person not only ever sent in Toronto, but from he's from Toronto. So yeah, I didn't. I wasn't right for you. So there's a there's a lot of history and this is kind of probably the only place where we can talk about it and it would make sense. But before me, like you gotta, you definitely have to shout out like what I call like the Holy Trinity, which is a female MC named

Michi Me, so Mischi Me. She used to actually be signed to um M C Light's father's label, First Priority, so she was on first priority. And when you go back and check the ladies first video, he wanted him when he saw like sweet she was in that video. You know what I'm saying, she would not like yeah, yeah, I even like she was in that video. And then you got to shout out you know what I'm saying.

The Dream Warriors, they were actually the first group from Canada to go platinum into nationally, you know what I'm saying. So it's wild. It's like if you do the knowledge, you know, shout out to Premier RP Guru. But like Gangster I used to open up, you know what I'm saying, So you know, shout out to dream Wars. But then there was also another rapper named Miestro Fresh West. Miestro Fresh West. He was the first dude um to go

platinum in Canada. Like we just celebrated the third year anniversary. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, okam, he's from Toronto as well. His name is Mike Stroke. It's wild because like he's a rapper. He's a rapper, yo, trust me. Listen back in the early nineties, yo, like we used to like bug out because he was one of the first to you know, be able to do collapse. I remember he started rocking with like show busing them wild, started crazy nick them up. So I mean, you know,

shout out to all of them. But I mean, like miss me. Also, if you go back and check like eight seven she used to rock with with B D pre because she's on Melody Melody. This is like rock days, like Karen Scott La rock days. You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, like then they got joints together and yeah, I'll sit when you started with flip DJ's flipping DJ's flip, I don't smoke weeds. You don't know because when I don't know what he's talking about, and when I go with

your squad, that was that was to us. You didn't do it next yeah squad. But I thought Flex was Big Dog Pipples. I didn't know who Piles was. Second, y'all alright, cool, cool, So you started out with with them do yeah. I was like Flex's intern at the radio station. And then uh, he put me in the Flip squad. But it didn't last long because then he left that the whole system whatever and then started Big Dog Pipple. Let's get straight to the point. Dot even

feel like EVO trying to cut you out. Do you feel like that's just that's just take a bad day, right, check to the policy. You don't drink safe. So it's no need to build up to this ship. There's no need to do it. You know, we're gonna try to We're gonna try to get us officials monsters a little you get a monster drink. Let's just be clear. But this was your morning show. I'm a morning person. I

woke up in the morning. Yeah, you always used the car always the car was um and just one morning it was the morning show until the next morning it was apro morning show. You had to feel certain type of way this this drinking chance. Come on, I don't I don't feel any type of animosity or anybody for ship like that. You know what I'm saying. There's a whole bunch of different reasons. Essentially, let's write it down

for the people that don't know. Sorry to cut you off because I wanted people, but I want to people to understand where I'm coming from. Essentially, this was somewhat your boss. He was the p It was a hundred percent people don't understand. So it's not like a co worker. No, yeah, that's not like me saying coming tomorrow saying Norri show, do you know, like what the fun We've been doing drink chans this whole time. So it's it's not like

like this was the boss. This was the guy and he stepped down I believe to take Yeah, he stepped down or there was a decision made where he had to go down, Like it was a lot of different I don't know, a hundred percent, but like he also wasn't feeling the situation going on. The reason what happened was we were doing well in the morning and then the breakfast club was Inventor's Breakfast Brekfast Club. I love all of them. They break on the morning show as well. Yeah,

I love that's the thing. I love everybody. That's probably love everybody to the Breakfast Club came around and they started doing good numbers with a lot of drama. So then they were like, Syfe, you gotta start doing drama. I don't like drama. I don't like it, so it wasn't working for me towards the end. In the beginning, it was a comedy show. It was a black Apertogana, the Jew walking to the radio station back right, that's the j Yeah, that's it was. The black Kox was

a black Kox. Yeah. And then um and then with Charlet Magne started doing all that crazy shit. They started taking people away from us, and they were like, you know, people scrambling and show. It was hard, hard, it was hard. His reasons why it was horrible. You just said it much hard when you agree with let me tell you why. I was like all the dumb ship. I just haven't missed up one episode. I watched Jerry spring up victoriously. When I see they need to drink. They're acting they're

not yet. I've been ready for to drink. To me, listen, you've been a part of a lot of situations that has a lot of bullshit behind the scenes. There's a lot of bullshit behind the scenes. It was a comedy show. It was a bullshit on the scenes as well. It's gonna be I just want to be up. That's my people. Everybody know it's funny. I was gonna leave Hot nineties seven at that time because of the reality show before that.

Before that, and the reason why I stayed is because I was working on my comedy career and they were going to make a comedy TV show. So that's why I stayed the first time. I was gonna leave two times before I actually got so I stayed there because of that show. Now, that's interesting that you um that you even seguate into a comedian because we all think we're funny, right, like everyone everyone actually fixed their fun

I ever lasted. They own jokes on the low, right, But then they go in front of a fucking audience and like to really do that? Remember your improv show? Yeah, of course, okay, you better remember it my first jass and listen first. I know it's so amazing how it's called improv. Right, you guys are coming, I'll say something that didn't make up a whole fucking story story that we make up a show on the spot Wow, and a lot of people bit your ship. I can't not

be sense. Yeah, yeah, you go. I wish I'm gonna slip you with making or something because you're not gonna be humble with You's a lot of people. There's a lot of improv shows that improblem has been around for a long time, not with hip hop. Now I'm saying I'm seeing people with a hip hop I'm gonna big you up. So you're the first one got damn, You're the first hip hop improp shake up ever. I didn't

even know what improper wanted. Let's just a freestyle. I'm looking at the guy like what the fund is improv? It's like like we should have said freestyle. They got a guy like that. But I'm also you have the podcast god yeah poppodcast of coase you. I don't know. I don't live outside of hip hop. Yeah, so yeah, I'm I'm I'm sucking if you could be racial through hip hop, I'm the racist hip hop bat. That's it. So I don't want this hip hop. I don't want

I don't want to to jazz. I don't want to listen to rock sometimes salsa, you know what I mean? But um, that's it. I just want I just want to live brief hip. I used to kicking free taps. It took me like like that was my romantic ship, kicking free slow jazz, like that look like the candle. I started telling kid breeze off me. I'm not even you know, like then, you know, because now I didn't have any back then, so you know, I used to go to the staircase, put a little kick of great

dating that the projects. That's some good ship man beating all that, you know what I mean? But what was into that podcast? The podcast? Did you guys know you were doing the first pop podcast? Yeah, I didn't even know what the podcast was. What happened was Hebro hired Rosenberg and then we're trying to train us to do the morning show because Ebro was like, I mean, m Rosenberg was like a parody guy, right, he did parodies. I didn't come from college radio. Yeah he did, like

a lot of underground college radio shape did. And then Ubo put us together and like we wanted to like talk to each other to get used to our sound with each other before we actually got the show. So he's like, oh, let's just do let's record in the back, we'll do a podcast. I was like, what the fund is the podcast? Rosenberg knew the podcast with us. Yeah, he picked up his nerdism. Yeah, nervous you were to

do with it. It was It wasn't past any step, no, no, no, it was just a podcast that he used to put up on it for y'all to talk to each other. No, it was ebrol idea to us to to do a show together. And then me and Rosenberg were like, yeah, like let's see we have chemistry, you know what I mean, like going to back and talk. It was evirol I didn't do fake air checks. But then Rosenberg was like, let's just talk into a podcast, and then that ship grew into what is now why Epstein the first hip

hop podcast ever, So we invented originally I think Rosenberg. Yeah, I mean he didn't take care of it. Well. It was like episode was a fucking weird missing, but it was on his website. But Rollenberg, let me tell you something. I love Rosenberg. Man, we're hitting along now, but he was a real piece of ship back there. How you saying I'd be like, send me a podcast. I had a blog. He had a blog on a website whatever, And I'm like, I will both put him off trying

to premiere it. Yeah, premiere at twelve o'clock on whatever day he'll put up whatever day. He put it up a letter thirty and not second to me to like, ye do he wanted all the fucking view I don't know funk about the views. I was like, fine, you put it on your safe but the the way he was doing it sneakily, Yeah, but it's all good. It made it made me fucking a whole new lane for us, you know what I mean, and for a lot of people. Yeah.

And then like I'm bouncing on the brown the place and may go back to that, I'm not gonna put down official. How did you link up with eight calocks? Not only you did a record one if you actually did business with him, like you actually signed and you had a whole adventure with him? Like, how did that work? Did you say? Adventure? Yeah? Adventure with her? Venture? What lovation an adventures? Venture? White people going to use adventure? Let's go, let's go you know what? Uh? We First

I think the joint that we first did together. UM was over Superdukes, who at the time was from Black Chinese from Miami. Um, we were on a were on a rhythm, and I think I think the joint was called Killer Dance. I think that was the first joiner. Oh yeah, it was right because pie Us said, like, can you guys explain everybody with a rhythm is just if they don't know. Um, so you listen, Yeah, everybody

knows that. Ever, So, like a rhythm in dancehall is like a producer will make like a beat and then what happened is you'll have like maybe eight to twelve artists all do a song over the same beat. So that's what a rhythment is in dancehall. So Superdukes get dump blades and get people all on them and exactly exactly. So, Um, Superduce produced that joint. Me and him. You know what I'm saying. We both um copra no no no, no, no, no,

no sorry. I think the first one might have been, uh yeah, Tony Kelly, Dave Kelly, Dave Kelly's is that the Vitamin D beat? WHOA sorry sound good? Yeah? It was either it was either it was either Dave Kelly or SuperDOS. But anyway we did, we both did like a joint together, like a collap on on both of those rhythms. And then pretty much I'll start seeing them like all over gun shot gun shot fire. I like this guy, but yeah, I would see him all over

the world. You know what I'm saying that, Like we link up, we go London, he'd be there be like, oh, think what you're doing him, like see if you need do like you know what I'm saying, like mix your powers of days like you know what I'm saying. At to see Mushing and Canada, all the black people got Jamaica as access. Why it's the diaspora because the shower POSSI really just had babies all over the place. And then I got the more it's taking my mom, it's

not think you correct. You a lot ofations in Canada as well well in Montreal and Montreal French big yeah, but no, my mind, the shower boss. You got to listen to just I'm told I totally have no facts. This is no facts in my mind? Is your fiction? Those shower at the Jamaicans shout out the whole and they deported them, but their children had to grow up in London. My mother places though, and just told me places they were in the where they can't anywhere. Listening

to Toronto Sonn went back to Jamaica. But what everybody went everybody else. I'm sorry, this is just my fictional story. All just watch just going overhead. I didn't watch. I watched one of the episodes. I have to listen. I didn't. I forgot that they shooting people in London and Canada. Now I'm telling yall, I'm in the nineties. I used to go there. It used to be a lot of sticks, like people will pull out stick like this. The police

and London at one point didn't have guts. You don't you but I ain't go lie to you don't funk with them because they went to karate class all days. The old day put you in the super proof like you're like the same website. I mean, you know, like the funny the funny thing. It's like there's a real there's a real connection, and it's it's very interesting because it's like right now, like the cycle has almost come all the way back around. Use talk and it's like

um with the slamming stuff. There's a lot of like people online going back and forth like who was the first Like was it London? Was it Toronto? Was it Brooklyn? But the thing is, yeah, you know what I mean, incorporating it like into just every day you know what I'm saying. The argument I was, I'd like to hear it. He was like, well here's the thing anywhere that Jamaican's goal. It's like the community always just uses the slanging embraces it. So just coming right Cause I met Cutting Ranks the

other day. You tell was the first time you met? Yes, first time I met Cutty? Right? Sorry, I just I was I'm all the tool right, You're like, I'm what shop all amazing word. But it's like, yeah, I mean listen my first album, like when I got signed to my major deal, UM, which is not I Am not No, that's UM. That's a firestarter Volume one on m c a UM. Like my first joint was called was called Baccardi slang. Yeah, and I go through you some much

called Cardi but it Cardi Cardiu. I thought she was drunk, drunk, he was drunk. Well, I mean you know, like it was one of those ones like for us, like we grew up, like when you guys talk about run no disrespectable cardis. But like we grew up on like overproof from you know what I'm saying, like raising Jamaican joint. Right, Yeah, so what's up the name of that family? They make it? They make some folis. Yeah that's the fanlum. You know

what I'm saying, That's what we grew up on. But it's like, you know, my man Solitaire, we was remember talking abou Buffalo. He was driving to Buffalo and he put on shout out some man Solitary. You know what I'm saying, big up to himself the records soon next used to have a production company together. We're gonna get back to all sight. I think me, you weigh more than me, but were you no know him weigh more than me? Meaning meaning I don't think. I doubt that

you're making culches too, because you know Sife thinks he's Jamaican. Though. Yeah, my last gig I got it spending forty five doing a reggae set. Said, yeah, that was my first gig that I did. Guy, did what you would you saying? No, No, my homie's Jamaica. You got what point you gotta say? From the house that's what jam making set right there. But you how did you adapt that? Because you know, being for the week and being from New York City,

that's Jamaicans. But it's still the least. You know, it's more blacks. It's more like weekends my Jamaica style. Did you Yeah, you be in Jamaica because I could see thee Yeah it was. I was like from one I hadn't learn Yeah, I hadn't learned how to play reggae because when I used to open up for Flex, he didn't want to play reggae and he wanted a half hour reggae set before he started playing all the hot

hip hop right now. So we were in the tunal so before he played the Benjamin's and Annie Up and all that, he wanted a half out reggae set, so that I had to learn how to play reggae like that. And then I got more into it and I actually really learned how to What I did was I was down here in Miami. I was hanging out with Kali Old like oh one. But he used to have a party butter Food and Calla had a party called Humble College that the temple was before what house. That's just

wasn't scared. I went to that party and it was real Jamaican DJ and the energy was so crazy, right, So what I did was I adapted that style. I took the talking the way Jamaican's talked into a song and like you hear it in the headphones and you're like yo, all the girls and that, and then the song is about what you just talked about. But I would do it with hip hop and R and B because in New York all the DJ sounded to say,

they all sounded like fake clues. But that's what the face came in because like du place, because they're making for that for you. Yeah, because can we explain that? Just change the subject? I got it. So I started adapting that style to giving myself a different personality DJ. Then all the Jamaican artists, I mean every single one of them wanted to be on Hot nightety seven car and I was playing on prime Time, not the regga

show like in Saturday. To knew what. I was playing the hardest dance home Ships and they were like, how do we get on the white light play that I play it again? He got it. But so then all the artists wanted to so that. I was like, oh, like dumb plates is like you get a popular song and they say your name in the song. They'll even rewrite the lyrics to like go against major sound sounds. Right, But like I didn't do really sound class rooms because I wasn't battling, but I would get them to say

how that said it. And then I started getting hip hop artists. So like you're trying to say you invented a dump plate in hip hop, other people have dumb plates. Okay, all right, I'm saying I was. I were playing it in prime time. The reason why me and Cardi wanted to do this show together, it's not I suck. Stop talking about myself, you know, like to to beat himself up. You know what I'm saying. Safel is like you know that he said, Yana right, y'all two together? Yeah, I mean,

like I say the Ranna. I was like, no, no, no, I would like to hear this story. I mean you think I heard the story about I would like that. Yeah, it's the story. It's a it's a good as story because I was in um. I was in the studio in the you know, in the crypt and you know, just me and me and the boys were they're chilling Mr Morbas around something involved somehow co and so we got a call from our from our virgin, Mark Jordan. And Mark Jordan used to be a head of black

music for Columbia. You know what I'm saying, This is like trap Master's days and yeah, and you know he left Columbia and I don't know what he was doing. He was just figuring out his next move. And he called me and he's like, hell, Cardi. He's like, I'm in Barbados. I found this gorgeous little girls. She can name, she's amazing whatever whatever. I'm like words. I was like, all, aren't cool. He's like, Yo, I need you. I need you to get on the demo tape because like Yo

already hooked it up. I'm about to have a meeting with Jay in like two weeks. I'm like, yo, soft, I got you. I was like, here, what's her name? He's like, Yo, her name is Rihana. I was like, nah, so she's gonna have to change that. I didn't he know that Rihanna the name. When you heard y'all know, what did you think? Because I know that's like it's a Caribbean name. You know what I'm saying. She was like, she's gonna have to make it. You used to that

name as opposed to me. That's the first time. I I'm like, I don't know, like a girl for us, that's regular, you know what for y'all being high, feel like it's just because y'all a story. We're gonna get this. It's gonna work, right. So anyways, he's like, yo, he sent me a comfort of joints. He's like yo, because at the time, you know what I'm saying, whatever, we was all over BT joint, don't tell me, Oh what's up? The first join, So the ones that they sent me

was like album cut. So I did like three for the demo and one of them produced and bro, no no no, I just I featured, you know what I'm saying. I was a featured feature rapper. And then one of them they kept on the on the first album. You

know what I'm saying. That's that's eventually like how I ended up meeting Jay later on the year when he came but um, yeah, so I was on her demo and he's like, YO, trust me, this is is gonna be crazy, And yeah, he called me like that story that y'all heard like we heard it like from beforehand, you know what I'm saying to when he's like, yo, he want to go have that meeting, and they basically locked the doors and said, y'all can't leave until we

signed this contract. You know what I'm saying that, But yall locked it in and yeah, like you know what I'm saying, Like I was part of that process. But Mark Jordan, that's you know what I'm saying, you're just skipping a whole like you was called to work with the demo. That was a demo, that was an actual album that was gonna pre this was this was like the demo tapes like you know back in the day, like here's my demo the EPMD, please listen to sho. First he came because he at the time like he

wanted like the extra star power. You know what I'm saying. Because at the time, like it's crazy or like works, but you know I was the one that exactly you know what I'm saying. So it's like I think it was meeting and have somebody on officially demo. When you first met Banna, did she smelled like grapes Like that's the only three. You can think something first and foremost. She was a youth when I met her, she was

like fifteen. So like when I met her, like mom La saying, you know, kind of shout out to Rihanna. But when I met Rihanna, like, look, she literally had just come from from Barbados. You know what I'm saying, Like for years is around this was oh five or four or five, but then she hit eighteen around him smelling like flash forwards. Right now, I just feel like she smells excited. You just want to get straight to the grapes are not exotic. It is to me, it is you can get. You can take wine. He's a

life size you know what's the grape smell like? Though actual grapes don't actually even smell like anything. This is where you gotta get. This is when you got gets creating. Who you gotta get you created. You gotta think of the greatest, Like like why you gotta think it's advanced raight like it smells like a wine, fermented fermented fresh wine. Well, for the for the record, I was not interested in

smelling m okay at that. I just planned eighteen to a team beyond it, Like okay, So so so then so then him being on the demo Morrigan was Mr Morgan, who was your manager at the time and friends with all that. Actually I met you, Mrs right now right now, beyond company alone. Mr Morgan good I accountable right now. So he brought me in the Rihanna was signed to these two producers that lived in New York, like in Bronxville, you know. Bronx were like, it's in Westchester County. So

we go to the studio. I meet her. She's I guess sixteen seventeen whatever, and they want me to hear the joints and just get my opinion. And I heard the ones with Cardian and all that ship and I was like, oh, this ship is fired. And they made um pond the replay. And at the time I had my show on the radio and playing the Sky. Uh this guy my song, right, wasn't it Nobody? Yeah. I had kind of already stopped messing with the Sky by this time, but then they wanted me that, so I said, Yo,

let me can I play that on the radio. And they were like, oh, we're trying to get a deal. That might be dope to get, like already getting played on Hot night the seven and had like a Caribbean field to it. So so I said, Okama played on the radio this weekend, and I'm literally the first person to ever play it ever. Literally. Rihanna says she was in the mall I think in Brooklyn when her grandmother. It was in a toy store and I had to

put on like a toy radio. She was no, she was just in the mall because that someone told her I was gonna play it. So she went in the store and pulling like a toy radio and heard her song for the first time. And I played that ship over and over and I remember. And then she goes to get the deal and at the time, I was before the dealer. You're playing the record of way before, Way before he got the deal. That's the basically saying, so I'll tell you how I got the deal. So

it was for the meeting. This is the part that card back to let This is the this is the part that gets kind of erased a little bit. And I don't know why you don't want to I don't want Okay, let's go it's it gets you rate okay. So so j I was working with j at the time on some ship and me and Jay had a

fight at the forty forty club. Watched the argument arguable like jab to be honest, see what it's gonna go with you likes fight like j Yeah, he was definitely bodied with I don't tell yourself that when you see the other day he got like like he got with he flocked, like I'm gonna ask if you take a ag like come on with your hair growing, you're just here growing up type of ways, like let's take a little you know, I'm on you know I'm on you because I ain't just you need to tell me because

I need to get my chest plan out too ahead. So then so so no type A taking no shot. I'm gonna be honest. That's like I'm gonna I'm taking type that's organic. Yeah, I'm talking to you know. That's mutin culhip. That's rude, that's muting. Yeah, it's also ut. Okay, So before we do this, let's also wait wait, wait,

that's a big up to our people. Greet lightning you know what I mean, when it's time for that lightning thunder and never done a better things, Scott, You're like, you know, when it's time for that thunder, under man. You know what I mean when it's time man, You know what I mean, when it's time to run to get slimed that Greek like. But right now, you know

what I mean. We are taking tag of one because I'm standing from the two legends, man, and I want to you know, so many times it's overlooked in this game, or how hard it is to stay rather thant, how hard it is to have ten years in this game and still be who you are. So many people they do survive those ten years, but they turned into a whole different type of animal or two different type of hot jacks, and the further they get. And that's still

I get it. I get what what what change? This should be changed, But there's something that should not never changed is that we're superheroes and the thing that we dedicate to our community when we, you know, put our face. I can't never take my face off and go to McDonald's and say I'm off. We can't never do that. Like this is a twenty four hour job even when we're not at it. So I want you all to know that I appreciate that. I want you to That's why we set up this format because we want to

give people their flowers while they hid. We wanted that people to know that we appreciate it. Like I really look at hip hop like superheroes, Like I can really live off for hip hop, like for real, like for real, Like I'm one of those guys, like I've really probably never listened to a whole other genre of album. Like you know what I mean, because I'm not. I'm that insane, But I want you all to know that that I nor because I'm alive. You're gonna keep hip hop alive.

You know what I'm saying. You say that bad you? This is that rooms tonic? Yeah, yeah, I've done it was a soy sauce. It's it's a secret for sure. So so you start playing the record, so yeah, so this is the part I get to raise. So Jay said, uh had an argument? You had to fight? Yeah? Jay was like I don't know. I was like, Yo, that that girl Rihanna's dope, you're playing it on the radio is getting reaction. I think you should sign up. And it was like a little iffy, like I don't know.

I maybe the song might be bigger than her. I'm not sure. We had an argument. I'm like, I'm telling you she's dope. I'm thinking Caribbean vibes. That's a good that's a good pointing bigger than what's bigger than that time. She definitely surpassed all that At the time. That song was waiting big. A lot of people come up with a song like that, they never could follow it, right. So we had this argument and I'm thinking Caribbean vibes. I'm like, I could break this artist, because that's what

I do. Left James James at the Helm of Death at this point, he was the president of I didn't have a rocking familiar at that time too. After that, it was it was forming at the same time. That's why I was working. We try to say that it is because remember like when they first came to Caravan, and that's when like Tira Marie money then I was just talking about the party. I was just that, right, I mean not just that back in the days when I'm thinking about you guys, and I think it's me

an Ike from Death Jam. And when we went to the party being up Richard Party a fronting ship. The closer was Tierra Marie the mopen up what's real? So we rent and we saw and I don't know why. I was like, I fucked up because I was supposed to do a record but and I was like I saw the start them right there and I and what I'll tell you this. When Tira Marie got off that stage, the whole club followed her. And I don't know that Rihanna Marie and I don't know because I have nothing.

I've never basically been in the same moment Rihanna that I know of, like, but as an artist, I can look at that and see that motivation like what like do you know what I'm saying? Like I can see like if if she used to ever say, yo, you know I went to a party one night and and the whole club damn, they followed this one act when I was king around, I wanted to be this ship I could say. I was at that far. You know

what I'm saying. I was there. I was, you know, I really go as a sucking uh fan like the other day, this is crazy um from an racket and kicking pre comes like Y'll come say with something to me. But I was like, if I say with something, you kicking pre but I'm gonna lose my spot to watch you. That's cool? I wanted to stay to watch more than I want a little kid. I want to look at you when you're that much of a fan I want. I didn't want to lose my spot. I got your

phone number, dude. I really was like, y'all, I'm staying out here and I don't know. I'm just said, you know that's I'm that much of it. But you know what's why. I was also the pond to Replay video was shot in Toronto, to kid, you know what I'm saying. So when you go in there like I'm in that video, but it's like there's like it's basically like all Toronto people and why this is why I'm singing. Man, people

not giving us a fucking credit. I'm not listening. They my people was room for they was gonna sign up. I know, I'm a jay Z in the face, and we had an argument about why he should sign him right, and then his argument was not to sign He was like he was you know, he was like, I don't know if the record is bigger than her, I don't know if she should sign her as an artist or if it's just a single listen if he was president of the company, but having a and R president argument.

But it was so weird because it was in the vestibule, like the outside this SI had his pocket said, I don't I don't remember exactly. He had already gotten the job. I think I got the job because of Rick Raw because here I did have a job as an A and R. I don't know if it was at that moment. He was right around the same time. I'm gonna tell you another story. So so whatever. So she gets the deal, right, read the ship to her. He's on the record. I broke the record. She loves us to death. We go

to Toronto to shoot the video. I'm the DJ vo about Hey, Mr DJ asked me, he's fucking dancing in the video like we did the DJ YO the Little X first videos, like Little ex is from him, like the Sean Paul video that Little X got famous from, looks exactly like Cardi's video because that's where he got his broke his uh cut his teeth and doing Cardi videos and then and then he blew up and you know what I'm saying, he made on these video. So we go back to Toronto where they from, we shoot

the ship. She wanted this where I sucked up I know exactly where I sucked up. She wanted me to DJ go on a tour with her, and I didn't. I had when I had Stockholm syndrome at Hot Night seven Stome Kidnap, I was like, I was a prisoner, but I loved my captain. Oh, I haven't heard of that. Yeah, yeah that were trying to get Yeah, you have to ye. So so then we go and so she wanted me to DJ, I didn't do. I put my my boy

Max Blazer on that time. None this way after um, I was just moving a lot at the radio station and I thought I should have left, I should have went, I told Rihana, I sucked up right anyway. Another thing that happened right before we get to just a sidebar, uh read like last year when jay Z put out four four four. He was on Saturday Night Live and the second song he performed was with Damian Marley. Right, and I'm sitting there was ethics I told with Michael

J from s Now. So I was at the show and I'm looking on the stage and I see J and I see Damian Marley, and I go, oh ship. I introduced them to each other and fucking oh five or some ship because we try to know. I was at bb King's, Foxy was performing and Foxy was Foxy Ground jay Z and then Damian Marley performing and I was like, Jay, you gotta meet this dude, this Bob Marley son. He got one of the hottest reggae records.

Welcome to James Fire Junior Gone. I introduced them to each other, and then years later they try to we try to sign Damian Marley. The Marley family was like, we don't sign to rappers, but anyway, but the deal was close and I put So that's how I got a job because I brought uh Rick Ross, Rihanna, Damian Marley and I was part of true life situation and uh so I go to s and I see both

of them. I said, yo, Damian, I said, you know you remember I introduced you to each other and they were like, oh ship, that's right, And I was like you motherfucker's always yeah, I'm fucking party party anyway. So yeah, So then after Rihanna get signed, uh you know what Caravana is in Toronto, right, It's the fucking craziest. What's

Indians the craziest. I'll be honest. I got just one thing to say, please remember everything you but to say, okay, I got it on, ladies, when you get dressed up in the suit, I don't like me to put on sneakers. I don't like the sneakership. Sometimes the car gotta like you sexy. I'm going to your ankle. You're talking at the carnable out there in the street. I gotta cloths on, like out on seven years old about one's and she's like that, come on all the way to keep going

to the whole ship. Were some sexy flats if that's the case with some sexy but they got you know, they gotta be the you know they're like doing like ten fifteen miles. They can't do. I don't listen there to figure it out because I'll be looking at the like feet, I can't look it just like don't see I can I can't. I can't. I cannot. I can't can't stand strip of shoes when they don't want all they do with it for me, like like like I've been seeing the real real career and ones they'd be

having a good flats on. No, I'll tell you I've been studying, not seven miles. I don't know about the seven miles a little any time that. Anytime that, like you're playing mass like you you know what I'm saying, Like you you're doing the whole route, and it's like I've done that whole rout family. It's like I wouldn't do it anything for everything I'll be I'm trying to give him the distance. Yeah, I've never took the distance

in the consideration, but I still dope. It's another excuse like if going all the way out, I want the whole career everything, don't make everything compribon and you gotta pull much nigg like you got you got a motherfucking Tom Jones is like you gotta I want to see this everything, like I want to see the spell. How you know what they mean? Joking time Jones, this book

ahead and they keeping sight GMC credit. So Jay Z president of def jam Rihanna's out, Tim Ree's out of Foxy Brown a couple of the things they want to do. This whole big caravan and taking right Rocketbell. So like I go up there with him with the whole Rockefeller family, jay Z, Jay Brown, everybody. Of course they got to hit this guy. So telling what Joe I mean I got the wild calls murdered it. Um who is James manager at the time was his name John Nilly. He's

my accounting as well. He's getting so much money. He fired himself and start very interesting, there's how much money? J I'm fired? He said, I'm fired. I'm going to work for Jesus. How nex money is? He's tri I think, so he hit up. It was either THEO or Morgen. Shout out to THEO. So you filip video since ninety eight his name drop with the since thinking like the shows in like Timberlands and Ship like you know what I'm saying, Like I've been with THEO, like when he

had like Mad Underground mcs out on his roster. You know what I'm saying on him recently yearga Yeah, he said, he said, I feels a man, bigger feeling anyway. That anyway, So they're like, Yo, they want you to be like a surprise guest, So like you gotta hold it down. Can't tell nobody, but they want me, Yhanna said. So, so here's the thing. It was supposed to be, Rihanna, Um, Tierra Marie, I don't Astec supposed to before Astec whoa, how don't know he was dead. I don't remember. So

anyways them too for sure. Jay said he wasn't performing. Carnie was there, said they weren't performing. They were doing the show like all the hip hop show me, You're going to all these TV shows. And then there was just one big party. Like it was like, no, they took over a parking lot. Yeah, the whole parking lot. Yeah,

it just took it over. What's wild is like earlier that day, that's the first time I met him, and like imagine the first time I'm meeting jay Z. He's like, Yo, I want to thank you for being a part of that Rihanna ship. And I'm like all right, but my brain I'm like, yo, like that's wild. Crazy to know what I'm saying. Didn't of course in your mind like wh me a favor? You might be right, but you know what I'm saying. So like he was like really

super appreciative and and it was crazy. But yeah, like we came out, you know what I'm saying side DJ for me and your Mosshut the place. Yo, it was crazy. It wasn't but you didn't say it with enough oath of what he did okay, So saying again, how should I say? He was? This is my place, this is you know, how come they don't do this ship to Cubans.

To Cubans listen, they know who Cardi is. You know, it's crazy every time you say Cardi, A lot of people was gonna listen to this and they're gonna think we telling no one does ever bother make make sure because you don't. I got some um so do you have? Do you ever like hearing people calling on our Cardi and like it was weird at first because you gotta think.

I think in like one year there was like Playboy Cardi Cardi, there was the next card from like the Midwest, like and like within like one year span, I went from having this original name to like four big gass artists like with their name. So imagine if somebody came out of their name was they called themselves newer? Like like j Djally got to change your name? You know, yeah, J He's he's my man. But I don't like it.

Joyce about it. I'm like not like I'm used to if I'm used to it now, but you know what I'm saying, like people that called me Cardi from me. It kind of like I know why, yeah, I know where you know what I'm saying, Like the biggest Carda. Now Cardi is the nickname with these other people, that's their rap name. Is there any specific pronunciation in card I? Feel like I've heard I tried to almost do it phonetically, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, Tory Lanes and

I said Cardinal, he said Cardi. Now, well the different here's the thing, like I'm your first generation Cuban, right, I'm first generation Jamaican, and like where I come from, Like not to go to political, but what happened was not the true though that's in there now. But his father back in the seventies, they had this whole campaign to where they went to the Caribbean and they were enticing all the people from the Caribbean to come up to Canada. You know what I'm saying, They start a

new life. And that's pretty much like how my family ended up coming up to Canada and how a lot of people came to Canada. Because what it was was it was like they called it like the Great Brain Dream. So it's got the time. There were a lot of professionals, you know what I'm saying, doctors teaching from Jamaica and the Caribbean period, and everybody came up to start a better life in Toronto. So that's why you have such

a big Caribbean population. You know what I'm saying. That was in Toronto, but same again, the same thing was happening you know London. You know what I'm saying, don't got money, none, don't got poutine now, but they got fish and chips. Put. I ain't gonna lie Fox of poutine, Fox with the fossil poutine, mad random can even in fact, all your dream chaps listeners are like the funks a coot. It's like fries and gravy and child. I know people

came from New Orleans though they got that. You're disrespectful right now. I'm just saying, honest, that was not the answer was like I say, I like, I like, but it was in the French area and when we went to Canada, Quebec, we went on toward Canada. Good. That's but it isn't because there's a friendship. Yeah, what I'm saying, When you know I think of pool Taka, first off, first I have poutine. It's like the promoters are so excited, like because the boot to the pool tine, I'm thinking

this queen, and I'm down. You know, I'm cuing things not but when I I it's like yell. Every place you know, as a foodie, every place has their little dish and they little things like you know what I'm saying, like like like, uh, when I go to Jamaica, I like rote, no noble, noble trying to trend that. Okay, trend thats Rote. Don't go to through the weed anyone, Jamina what I need sucking Jamaica. But there is roady

in Jamaica. Yeah, but yeah, but it's yeah trader when the national dishes everywhere, as long as they didn't come up. Be like if you go to Jamaica and something, it depends like the obviously the national dishes. I can't sawfish, you know what I'm saying. Yes, So if it's not I can't sawfish, then it's hot still color college Chicken. Test of your human is out there. You can do anything. Did you see the guy he just got caught for eating twenty seven delivery pizza guys in Jamaica. No, No,

it's just crazy a Camp seven pizza guy. Yeah, he yeah, somebody using this ship. This is the whole as it was a cannibal. He was a candible who's eating then this is real. I don't know how he got it but quick, but that's that's fun days. Cannibal. I have the most slaughtered name of any mc no. But in this world, I gave the world slime. And this is not a hundred niggas named slim, and not one of them say nor he gaves me, not one of them. Like listen, you can actually google the facts from two

thousand and one and two thousand and four. Wasn't no one saying slims. I put that on the record from on the reunion album and you can google that. It's Google right, she was Google and everyone else. They braved it five years and the good ship about hip hop is they might be in b elite. They let me live and you did five years later, these lakers just started saying like a couple of game members started saying that they use it, which is it's just great slang

of slang. Slang is supposed to use whichever way. You know what I'm saying. I said water and people don't still don't know what. Then I meant you know what I'm saying. No, No, I'm about the n paid, the false water, like the fun you don't leave, right. I think you don't know what I mean. I don't know what I mean telling about you know what I mean, But it's it's you know what I'm saying. So now I ain't don't know. It's not googled you, right, and

like a google everybody else. And I'm searching for the negativity of car Well, I know his negative. So I'm searching and literally the only negative if you're whole career your host thing is the city is My Eyes is that is the name of a song. Yea, so Dre had a song called the City is Mines. You being a jamaking, you're being an official hip hop historian. You got on this beach and you made it yours. That's what you google. No, that's I came up with. That's

what I came up with myself. Just what I came up with myself. This is the new up and coming guy. He gets what an interviewer says. I was mad because you did that any other time. This is a normal thing work. Now I have to ask, is I really don't know? I'm being honest. I have to ask were you getting on that beat being disrespectful or you was just this was something? So this is real honest to be doing the show, doing on the show in between, I need just answer. So never never, never spoke on this.

I never will again. But um, what's interesting is like Drake I used to live at that time, makes to living in a neighbor called Oakland Vaughan and Drake used to live not too far away. I think he was still in Forest Hill at the time, far at Hills right. There was a guy it wasn't one of there was a There was a guy from my crew at the time, road Dollar, who was like he came to me one day he was like, Yo, there's this rock Like he

was going crazy, you know what I'm saying. And he's like, Yo, you have to check this nigga, we have to check him out. I was like, all right, cool, and he's like, Yo, he's on the grass seat whatever. Now he was a thing in it makes perfect sense. But at the time, so I'm like, what the funk are you talking about? You know what I'm saying. But he liked but he was like, He's like, so here's the other thing that

black people have to understand at that time. The Grass he was like the number one show between for ages like twelve to eighteen. But we grew up on the grass seat in Canada, like we had to grass seat since I was like a little kid. Okay, so so for being not even because I really don't know that is a Canada soap operas as the Grassy Junior. Yeah, hena,

the same one. It was the same show. They just played it in America show because I heard that, yeah used to it was like a kid It was like a kids show but like kind of like a little soap Papa, but with like messages and little chair dude. Right they shot so yo, so he would you know. So Rod was like, yo, like this is the car. So you know, I remember, I was like, yo, tell him to come through the cript, cal you don't you

know what I mean? He didn't look too far. I had a studio in the cript so he came in checking there or whatever, and you know, it was a thing to It was interesting because at the time, like I don't personally know why he does it, you know, and it's that's up to him, like he's a grown man. But his story is mad interesting, you know what I'm saying, Like it wasn't just always like Roses, Like he really you know what I'm saying, Like grinded it out and like did a lot of different ship you know what

I'm saying. And it's like when he came to the crib um, you know, he played me his mix tape. He's like, yeah, people are fronting on my mixtape. Actually now he left it at the crib and I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna check it, you know what i mean. Any just yeah, let me say that that I was mad, you know what I'm saying, Like one of the early ones, but it was a thousand percent fire, a thousand percent fire, So you know what I'm saying. He was like, Yo, I would love it, you know what I'm saying, if

you could get on the City is Mine joint. I'm like, all right, cool, So I did my verse, you know what I'm saying. That's how I got the ship open. I did my verse and I sent it to them, you know what I'm saying. And basically like I don't know what happened after that, but I was like, Yo, here's the ship, check it out. Sent it to them, whatever happened happened. Um, I don't need to go like, but for for the sake of hip hopets, for the sake of this show. Yeah, only for the sake of

only sick. Give this because we need to be We need to we need to address this because I literally that this is the only like you know, confusing thing that I can see in your in your career. That's not do you think this is? It's your honest opinion. You think you smoked it the verse? Yeah, I mean I just didn't because I wouldn't do that. Like if I was coming up like I ain't gonna it's like Nigga smoked me fucking this nig I would have I would do that like I'm not gonna live all right?

You think that was not asking? And I ask you do you think that I'm just saying I just want to jump in before any answer comes it off? Shots gets like this shot at least this man right here in Cardinal for he's my friend, he's this is my brother. When it comes to studio time, there's there's no you can't even talk. I'll be like, yeah, we're gonna get toe. He's like you see me pacing and writing right now, don't talk to me like the nigga doesn't smokes everything.

The reason why he's not affiliate and h considered the greatest that he should be is because his ship is so ill that you gotta listen to me. He's not sun ship. So did he smoke that. I'm gonna say yes, I don't even remember it because he smokes everything. He doesn't fucking play in that. But donatly Hardy Carty has.

You know, Cardy has five different fans. That is hilarious to watch him walk down the street, right because they're right, just Jamaican fans and then yah yah yo yo yo, that's my EMC, my DJ hell and just straight jamaking ship. And then there's like Brooklyn backpack me his Kim niggas and they'd be like your card and now you funding, you know, and then a white girls that like the

dangerous song, like oh my god, just so dangerous. Like so you didn't see them people walk up to like when in the airport or some ship, and I'll be like, oh, he's gonna be a Jamaican fan, but he don't be a real rap fan. You know. It's the Ills ship, So that's not I'll answer your question. So you think you think the guy in the outside, let me ask you. No, no, No, I want to keep it to you. I gotta because

you ain't never really speak speaking about this. No, So in your opinion, do you think that they got the joint you smoked this verse and they didn't want to use No, it was never nothing like that, to be honest, Like it was just here's the thing, like, so when they didn't use it, you threw it out. You threw it out yourself. No, it wasn't even like you have to understand like at that time, like I didn't even know, like you know, like he was definitely like going for it.

But it's not like at the time he was like where he is now, Like he was just alreadying out. So it was something to where it's like I respected it, and I told him, like he like, trust me, he'll be in this seat one day. He missed because I think that he really needs to tell people, you know what I mean, like all sides of it. But it's like he you know, he is been one of the nicest like nice, like people don't understand he was what people would consider like a backpack rapper, like straight. That's

where it comes from. So I mean, so here's the thing. I went away on tour. When I came back, you know, my guys was like, yo, blah blah, blinders whatever the folk mix up was going on. But I come from a generation where like we just like this is pre social media, all that Internet ship or whatever. I'm like, yo, I called up the mind and I'm like, yo, we gotta we gotta go talk this out and see where

I going. So I went down to studio Socrates was there, you know what I'm saying, um, and we went down and like whatever, Like the funny thing was, I know what you're talking about because that's the only negative ship that ever comes. I never watched that post till like fifteen years later, so I had no idea what he said. But to me as the O, g like, it wasn't important.

So we went down and you know what I'm saying, We we spoke about it, and you know, we just talked it out and it was just, you know what I'm saying, It was so random, like literally that day, but what was the actual beef gay? Because it wasn't that it wasn't actually a beef okay, And that's the thing. That's the thing that like now didn't laugh for like that verse was never supposed to come out of yours.

I have not listened. I did the verse, hold that everything else after that, like it was what it was because I'm wonderful, how did it come out? Because I mean, did did did one of your can't link it? That happened to I gave it to them, emailed it to them. Hold this, you know understand what I'm saying. So it's like whatever happened after that? Like it's whatever. Like to me, I'm like, yo, dude, do whatever you want to do

with it, you know what I'm saying. But so you're asking if you released it, like how did you come out? They didn't use it on the actual album, and I don't even know if it was like he was making albums at those times. I was like to say, like whatever, whatever, he's he's it. We went down and we talked it out. And this is important because I know a lot of time because you know, I listened to the show like

every single week, I always listen listen. I listened to all the discussions about like young generation or generation and the conversation that we had was like a precursor to like a drink chance type of thing because I'm like, yo, when I was a kid, I didn't know how old Chucky was. I didn't know how old be Daddy Kane was, ice Cube. It wasn't a thing who cared like I was, like,

you know what I'm saying. But the thing is, though he came up at a time went for whatever reason, they paid close attention to how old somebody was, this that whatever, that's the first this like when the person's fat, fatly hood, like the first thing you to say, you know what you were glasses Like you know what I'm saying, Like, that's that's that's that's a simplastic way of thinking, like what that was? Whatever was in uh your force that

you just full. But the dope thing was when we went down to the studio, we had a we had a great conversation and that's how we ended up doing a song together that's called the Last Hope and that's on his mixtape called Comeback Season. So the thing is, it's like me and me and Drake didn't never have

no no beat. You know That'stand what I'm saying like it was some random miscommunication Ship, and like even on that video or whatever, like you know what I'm saying, like it's soft, you understand what I'm saying, Like it was ironic. I'll tell you why, because he's talking about you. Because obviously I had to look at I was like, oh, Ship,

I totally forgot about that. But when I looked at it and he says, he says, yeah, because he's the old g I see him open up for jay Z and I see him do records with the clips and for and then it goes but now I'm doing records with the clips, and I was saying, Wow, it's just crazy. This is the only person that put a damage and his unmarked skin like that one pimple came from just he and it was crazy. Like in the midst of him, people were too I don't know what the fun I

was just I don't know. That was just into me, Like I was just like, wow, I mean, you know, it's wild and you know, like listen at the end of the at the end of the day, like me and me and me and my good I think it was the first vio fest that that he brought me out and the rest of that ship. I like ft Man, my fellow least everything he's doing all every year. I

need you. I need to man some time. Get the passport you saying my possible league just came from the medic Here's here's the thing that you need to understand about me at the end of the day, like whether it be and you know, you can do any type of research, like whether it's Drake, whether it's um came On, whether it's I don't know, like mad people, Like I'm somebody that I'm gonna do a joint with you if you're from my city, because at the end of the day,

like I'll be honest. The reason why I came up with the song that's called Baccardi Slang and when I first came out and the hook said everybody knows this the t dot it was, it was not about me. It's about my city because I grew up here in like you know em C Lights saying, kid, this one from Brooklint, Like I always heard em C rep where they from, whether it's West Coast, you know Brooklynt Queen's Like I grew up listening to Juice Crew, All Stars

and all that ship. You know. I I'm sorry to bounce but what year wasn't when people thought that you and DrAk this beef ten. I don't know, well around that time this is a crazy ship nor No, I'm not sure. I'm not sure when the time it was. But I remember going to Canada and me saying, like, what's what's going on to the sex and they was like, nah, this is the T And I was like, I didn't know this because I had older fans or whatever, but

I didn't. I keep saying the six. I stopped that, Yeah, but you know what, that twice and I personally don't care if you call it. You know, we have so many nicknames, crew Face, Capital, make the City, t Dot, the six whatever. As long as you're bigen up Toronto, I don't really business, you know what I'm saying. The thing is sure, you're gonna have people from my generation

like it's nostalgia to them. So it's like, you know, when I came out with joints like mccardi slang all time killing or you know what I'm seeing Like when I'm on the Oh, I'm gonna get to something in the second podcast when we get to we got so much to get you. When we get to the grinding remakes. I'm gonna take a fan, your fan as a DJ, who had who had the better grinding remakes? Solid? Yeah, you're gonna tell about the Bridport Joe. Point we get to that, I want to address that video or address

uh the issue. So you think you think you're thinking Drake and put who did you think one? Here's a here's the thing I pleaded the fifth when it comes to the only thing is I am always going to defend Toronto. I love you know what I'm saying, Like,

I'm always gonna defend Toronto. So the thing is of course, like clips, like you know Malison Pusher, Like listen when I met when I met Pharrell, because it was actually Farrell that was the one that spearheaded that he was in Toronto spearhead of debt no no, no, no, no no no, like the Grinding remix because he was in Toronto promoting like some n R D ship and we was at this one club. I was going up the like the v I P entrance. He was coming out of the v I P and like we just met,

like we literally just faced off. You know what I'm saying that he was like, yo, Fox with your ship and I'm just like, obviously is for else. I'm like work. He's like, yo, what fox that this is? This is like grinding day he died a you know, his head has not met the regular color. But like yo, he was like, yos, I want you to be on this, on this grinding remix. And you know, as well as I do, a lot of niggas would just say something, alright, cool whatever. Ship. That's how that's how old you know

the Edex ship trail. Yeah, the rail actually knowing no no, no, no, no no. It was at the time we were using this that's okay, okay, but he FedEx into me. I literally did my grind up in verse it in fifteen minutes, send that ship back. And that's how, you know what I'm saying, how I met the clips and you know what I'm saying, We did all that ship. But I've

been doing those guys, you know, from that time. So when you know when the pushing on Drake Beef you know, went off, like for me, I gotta be team Toronto all dates to the end. You know what I'm saying, Like a verse and draping the cord, you're gonna said listen man it's on m We invaded America, you Tory lanes? Have we grabbed? Have we set? Yeah? Listen, I want you listen one you can hold y'all who cut you down? Listens? Not think about it? Yeah, I think listen, lockdown from

Toronto to Vancool. But and y'all really don't need us that we don't know, we don't talk about I don't know. I don't know if you know why. I always felt like Texas artists never needed from outside of Texas. Always kind of there's no infrastructure. Like, let you look at these guys. Most of these guys are rich of texts and you some of them you've never even heard, like you from the South. Let me just some of them. City of Toronto is my favorite place on the planet,

next to London and Tokyo. It is the most fires city. I love going there. Vancouver's dope to there's a couple of other cities out of the dope, but there's no people in the middle. So like it's a huge country, but it doesn't have the population that we have. You know what I'm saying, don't got a lot of us. No, just like like like like all kinds of people the population of Canada is not you know, there's something you

need to know the population of Canada. We're gonna bring s Puerto Ricans out there, you know, it gonna starting. Anything lives within a hundred miles of the border. The entire population lives within a hundred miles of the Canadian American border. So north of that it's nothing. It's land. So although the country is actually bigger than America, it's

not populated because cold forested all that ship. So there ain't really need nowhere or no need to but Toronto though it's the ship and I used to be that used to be my little secret hideaway. That was my desert oasis. But it has the baddest bitches on the man. I used to go to Toronto, the baddest checks, great food, the best parties. Because Caribbean music is in the mainstream right, It's not like it's Miami of north You don't hear a Caribbean set did not agree with you, by the way,

because you have to go to a Caribbean party. In my writing, know what I'm saying, No no in Miami, no Caribbean. We are Caribbean and we're in the music. Sip but there's a lot more Spanish influts here. There's not I mean yeah, but no, not Hatian Jamaica. Of course. Yes, in the music scene though, there's a lot of Spanish music concert but they played all music in Toronto. Hey guys, Fantis music is also in the Caribbean as well. You going to like a pop Saturday night, white boy party

and reggae music is all intertwined in that ship. It's not it's not like ill I think playing reggae like it's like in the midst of the coat part of the cultures. So three people ruined Toronto for me. Carti is one of them. But that's Little X ruined it because Little X got so directed. No sorry the director X. His name now Director X. But little X confused with

extacy neither. No, he did some night wit. He was doing all the music videos and he was bringing all the Toronto chicks to be in the videos, and everybody was like, who the funk are those girls? Okay? Then Vince Carter when he was the Raptors, he was getting on the club. What about Hollywood? I was shooting mad films in the Toronto and as New York. Your shot in Toronto. A lot of people know that. Most of the past say it was Toronto that hid. So you're

saying that doesn't count, doesn't count for ruining it. It counts for the city. It doesn't count for ruining it. For me, he's stipend that. You know what's wild. It's like I rewatched painting for like a couple weeks ago. What's hilarious? Iss Like all these characters all Toronto. It is like my first one was in the movie bro. Yeah,

the same thing was talking about. He was in the movie, was in the car with literally he had like a prominent rule to like he's say much, but most of the like the major like when they recreated in New York, they couldn't recreated because those areas look like now, so they'll go they go to Toronto. I said to God, like I was scheduled. That's the reason the role I got. I was scheduled to go there, and that's that was the time. Don't you know I'm coming? Now? Three people

knock Torto the girl. Now Cardi is like because of Little X, that's how he blew up and stuff. So he's not one. So it's just two more people left. So little ex Vince Carter. He had he had owned the club and had all the NBA players inside the club, and then all the Toronto and to this day, I say, I'm gonna say, at least a quarter of the NBA players when they have a bad bitch wife, they'll be like, you know, my wife from Toronto. Then the stable and

then Drake came on and then just destroyed it. Drake brought all like destroyed, Like I don't think it's in the hood in New York where all they ever used to do was go to Miami. Now they'd be like, yeah, now we're gonna go to Toronto, sun end up in they do come for a minute, yeah they go. Now you worked on the Chapelle Show, Yeah, doing Skins or dj d he was Djame, But you could have done skins. Stockholm syndrome. Every time Dave asked him to be in a sketch, I was on the radio and I was like,

I can't do it. I'm a dickhead. You did did you know you were being dick at the time? I had Stockholm syndrome. I was a slave. Yes, you could have been in an actually Larry Skin, I couldn't. There's three. You could have been you could have played boys, been a couple of them, yes, for that yourself, for yourself, you could have played ball. It's why I'm here. I gotta trying to tell you. I don't know that for you in Red Sweets shot Sweetme. I got a thousand

of these stories. And there is a second what was that drinking? That's he's yeah, why so I would like that. I would like to established this. Yeah, so even though you turned down the skits, did you ever see this? Did you ever see the skips on all of them? All? Right? Stuff? So you had to play the music according to the skits or just work no no, no, no no. They would shoot the sketches and then they would get an audience. You know the part where he's on stage introducing the sketches.

I was the DJ of that part, so I was a DJ for the audience, so like I'd introduced it. Yeah, but they can show him like three yet more shun but but yeah, but uh so, yeah, I was a DJ at that part, So we would see all the sketches before they aired, So it's like backstage or or like with like with the audience. But Dave, Dave me and Dave used to funk around. He used to do like a half hour warm up before we even started taping.

And then I would play music. And that's when the Little John sketch came from, because I would take an acapella Little John and like what okay? And he would start imitating it, and then he started doing a Little John impassion and then he was like, yo, can you can you get Little John guy? Too much for me? We got what so that Dave was like, Yo, you're funny, you should do comedy, and I wait, so that's where you got to do comedy. He I didn't do it

at the time. I should have, but he that's where he was like, yo, you gotta tax so you weren't doing it at all. Comedy now a party, not a party of protfolio, not at all. It was just I was just funny. I was like road trip funny, funny. Not much of my friends. And he used to and he used to be like, now you got something you should do comedy Chapelle Chapelle told you that you had to take it serious from them. Later on I did and then uh know so then like so, yeah, so

I met Dave back then. But the reason I know Davis because Dave is a fucking hip hop junkie, you know, like it's not even a game with him, like he like he took me as a rapper and a comedian, like that's all he cares about his music and comedy, you know what I'm saying. And uh, Cardi, him and him and Carter now got cool. I'm gonna have to

start calling Cardio that's something different. That's an exercise. That's an exercise, you know, not the last, not the last special that just came out, but the one before that. Cardi has the song at the end of the Dave Chappelle special. I'm saying, like, we fucking right this ship. I would like to come on him a little bit more than that. Come on, yeah, give him a shot, everybody that it's not really that girl, It's not gonna

look it only has ring work minute. Let's take a little more, a little river where look like little more. I wouldn't mind. Dave Chappelle's my fucking favorite comedians, right yo. You know we were supposed to well this is what I was Mazio days like that, Dave Chappelle would come with daylos so. Yeah, yeah, that's a good way that sounds about girl that was supposed to happen. And whatever the mix up did, we got did out. So anyway, thank god, thank god. And we told their story beautifully.

That was amazing. It was amazing. But da Chapelle, we need you back, so we're supposed to. So I wouldn't do to go to a t L. A right to do some party and ship and I got my man. He picked me up like. I didn't have flight at the late, so I had no time. I just time to drop off my bags. And because I learned from the A t L. Drop your bags off. The crackheads there they're breaking your car everybody. No, I didn't say that.

I'm saying, this crackhead is there that that stay hustled like in the parking lots, So don't leave nothing like I got caught like that. So I just learned my lessons. So I just you know. So as that land, I said, I don't care. I can't go straight to the club. I gotta go to the same reach. It's not a floor sit just to be out of there. So I had the same regions dropping it off. No, I wasn't flaws. I'm just saying what I'm to let you know. So I went to the joint and so my man had

We don't want to say his names. I don't want to embarrassing, so I don't know what's this name? I don't definitely not. I don't even because it so I'm smoking, So listen, I ordered bottles. Damn, you know there's a little that was your week. I know we're smoking this mix, like I know, but we don't have no timelights. He literally had to go from the ever More Hotel club.

I go. My favorite comedian in the world walks up Dave Chappelle club and now, contrary to popular belief, I get starstruck too, Like what if you like, I've never really met him, and if I did, I don't wanna remember it, so I don't count. So this is my first official time. I'm like, they bring me my bottles as they bring me my mom. I don't know if you drink or not, but this is the he drank from the old Sman Mountain respects. I'll give him a

bottle of rolls. He's like yeah, and he's just like I sweeter BOTU like holy ship and now my mom, I'm like Yoda Chappelle is is I don't and I'm smoking, and then I'm like, Dave Chappelle is right here and like what you're smoking on? I was not confident in DUIs for myself and I don't want to pass because I was like you, the last thing, the last thing I want Dasabel is walking around. That's you're like saying, it's the half thing. This snicking noriy I asked smoke.

I don't know. I don't know if he's out there, need a check on him. That's all you want? Smoke wings you don't really know. You can't be smoke mens. And I'll smoke a man every now and then. I don't give a fitt you know what I mean. I don't smoke like if I don't got nothing, you're smoke, I'll smoke half a good ship, like you know what I mean. I'm like funking. I don't know what I'm doing, Like I snow. It's like I might not looking good

to the fox, but I gotta cigarettes. That is mens like like dollar pizza, like fucking up but I've don't know is like dollar pizza. Mens is like housticks. Okay, I'm a problem one twelve Mr chow type of small. But he said, if you out of town, Houston might have to go. Yeah, it's just that ship. Ask me, that's how your miss that's how your miss I went to fall. They spread lobster Mrs spread last okay talking. I love no boss, miss the bus. It's a boss, it's a it's no, it's really and it's like it's

red lost to flight against again. You're fling against any ben again's again, been again and again happened. Here's round you're where. I just love fan again. I love that. I know how to speak Norri Son. No, you already with my firstt rapper friend in the game. Actually actually for one point five seconds. You manage it, huh not manas not here he's right A that's who you didn't get huge. No, I don't like me. No you go. You had me a conference call one time and you said,

sex is my manager. Jamal baby Jamal No, Jamal Jamal jaw off his partner. He said, yes, you do hes partner yea his partner. Yeah, you're right. Your phone s no, probably saying you know what I'm said Jamal site part. He probably said, sign your sounds busy part Jamal and not sexually, not save it because it's sound more the whole case of space. It is not mean, that's amazing. I know that you look like you got man, we

lost this great all over you. I'm like, that's my brother interlet mead and to let on that motherfucking home. What's that ship called that droom? And then I had a drone come right to you go back with that drone close like so now it's happening. So now Toronto will officially be like standing out what you don't even want to let me talk. I'm gonna keep walking. I got wan. I'm I'm renting the car in the back round. Come on, Manna act hold up. The tager won't hit me?

Like so what I mean by remember that that fund up? Like I personally, I've heard the other artists that you named, um An E F and Co sign that and this is a hip hop story. And I really love doing this show with this man because he knows the other parts that I don't know. But me personally, I have to talk about my own experience. The first time I heard of Toronto from a music scene Canada from music scene as you so you'll go these people before you

and we have to respect that, especially people. I think if this is me, I'm just speaking for my spect It was you, and there wasn't really nothing else I really heard until Drake and now we got tory Land and now we've got a whole bunch of others. That was the first time I've been, you know, like so in tune with it. Like Sion said, I was in

tune with the party scene. I was in tune every five years, all Star weekend on super Bowl or whatever, you know, something like that, or big Caravan like other than that, it was just but now it's gonna be like you know, like when I said like New Statin Island, what I meant was after Wu Tang impact was so crazy like A and Os was just instant and for reason that it beat up just after a while after Nas marked Deep and you know Capon and Oriega and rapper Nor I can only work people was in left

back and Queens were It's the same way. It was like you're doing you canna get sucked up leading, you know what I mean, Like like the artist is not just walking around. That's it's called the stick up kids. They didn't know that, but I feel like that's what's gonna That's what was happening with Torons happened the radio.

I feel like I feel like I feel like it's gonna be even more like you know what I'm saying, Like do you feel what I'm saying on I mean, here's here's the thing that's like that's wild interesting about about Toronto now And it's like when when I first came out versus now, it's like I am one of the few, if not like the only one that literally like can bridge the two generations because it's like I am definitely like ship happened like way before the whole

Internet era, So there was a lot of crazy ship that's why. But me and Sifle was walking on the street today we was talking about it, like here's the thing. Sometimes you walk or you drive down the street and it's paved, you know what I'm saying. But you have no idea that before these niggats paved that street that it was mad ship going on. You know what I mean, Like ship, it was wild ship. You know what I'm saying.

It's like, would there be anybody that you wouldn't want to represent right now that before you from Toronto from Canada. But the mad Nigs though, like a few of the highlights. I mean, here's the thing that you gotta understand, even about me. It's like there's so much history. It would literally be an eight hour drink, like like I'm trying. Yeah, I'm gonna try and like condense it as much as

I can. Socrates out of my crew, we had a crew that was formed of two niggas um the first three years he was in And here's the thing, I was in a crew called f West to figure the speech, and then Shan Clear had a crew called Paranormalles. Yeah yeah, I didn't yeah, yeah, yeah. So we brought the two crew to maybe with drunk Fats and we we just formed a crew that was called the Circle basically because we was like yo, we just woke with the people within.

So as Socrates, myself, Marvel Solitaire, who produced my first joint at m c A Chaclare, Julie Black Terror, Chase Wilder, Marvel Scrupulous Anthem, twelve inch, that's like the freshman couple of Access up. Yeah. Was you know, there was a lot of us for Soccrates. He was the first one to get a deal. He got a deal I think Fuzzy sign him. He's down up. That's part of the time later because you did a sicking liking to him, and he was like, you know he jam making in

the world's gonna say something. You gotta take one hit of the sto. Cha know you don't want you this, okay, but let me for a Jamaican Rudy white y'all y'all yea cliff ya yo know, I'm an edibles type for you. You know what I'm saying. Yo know? It was pretty y'all trying about about that today's wait, bro, I was trying my best. I was trying by Canada version should meet everybody. Canada's Jamaican, You white people, y'all, fams, famis

you gotta smoke? What's ceo? Yo? Soccrates got his deal at ninety five with Warner Brothers in l a um. Fuzzy signed him to that deal and he was in that deal for a while. He got out of it shot clear. Actually they got to deal with Priority records and whenever you got bad deals, though you got you got deals like Smooth Doll I mean front. My first year was on every label. First, my first one was look, I was telling them money. I said, he got a check from them, you know, you know what it was.

It was. It was a wild time because I went to m C A because like my favorite rappers were there, Like the Roots was there, Calmon was there. You know what I'm saying that at that time, like not to say that I'm not now, but I was like an m C m C. Like I wasn't trying to like sacrifice my sound anything like that, you know what I'm saying, Like I wanted to come out and do like some real rap ship and universal right now, now, got that

makes some noise? What were you? And I think I told you it's all d M. Did you physically go to how Can I Be Young? Jamaica? Yeah, that's the first time we actually met word what was that ninety seven? I don't know. I got the buy it from you, A vital from you that that's the first one. Seriously, I said, how can I be down Jamaica? I felt it was dangerous, It was not the safest. How can I do that? I was that was not the best, but it was actually it was not like a normal hunking.

But I love that Jamaica one with some different shot that's the first time I meant who kid, Yeah, that's the first time. Did you go to the Woo Tank party in the mountain joint? No? I didn't. Oh that was Tang had a party in the mountain Jamaica party and I'm not okay and Pope party the mountain. You got serving and the inspected like serving you, I don't know what, like with your girl. But then the van couldn't times down. You have to walk down still, you know, well,

you know what's it's all that ship though. It's like I don't know how often you used to go to MPs to make sure power something, but like all those things, how could I be down Gavin make sure power something? Like we was there, you know what I'm saying, Like we literally was there like amongst everybody. So like if you think about like make sure power of something. I remember like when Fifth first came out, you know what I'm saying, Like he was down there and was down

there like that makes sure power something. Was crazy I think it was that was to Puerto Rico on and Yo, that's when I first met him. What's wild. It's like he was looking at my videos and like, yo, so I'm hearing about fifty and like you know, the nine shots and all this crazy wild ship. And when I met this nigga, this nigga walks up to me. He's like, Yo, my nigga, I love how you do that dance moving? Yo,

how you do that dance moving? I'm like, this nigg is asking me about how to do the fucking dance from the video. But that's literally how we connected. And it's like, yo, big up fifty from those things. Like he's like, yeah, I'm gonna bring him on tour and I'm like, again, nigga say ship all the time, but Yo, that nigga brought me ontour. Me and Rihanna went on to a little a little little wing. I think Little Wayne walked up to Cardi spitting one of his verses

he did. He was it was just spitting a Cardi verse. You know what that was? That was when Katrina passed over Miami and there was I think it was mt The MTV Awards was here, so I was down here at them times and he was at the MTV Awards and there was some random ship going on. So it

was born. So I just walked like around, you know, like backstage, like some random you know, just a spot to chill out and I've seen Wayne there and you know, that was the first time I ever met him, and he spit my verse from branding the entire thing like that. That was my intro to meeting Little Wayne was hit spitting my verse, you know what I'm saying. And it's like your wayn He's another one that's been like kept it a thousand no doom doom doom in hand. You

know what kind of fly fly I gotta. I gotta job to you at UPS next week. I can't have the fl flytre but I mean that ship. But like YO never packages the thing that thing I love about hip hop. And it's like my experience in it is like some of my some of my literal like heroes in hip hop, from Timberland to Buster to j to Wayne, like this is it was all these people funking with me, not because uh they could get something from me, you

know what I'm saying. Like it's not because it's like I was the hottest nigger out in the world, sort of like we gotta or whatever whatever, Like these niggas organically fun and it's like my experience was different because I mean, little Wayne jumped on a joint. It never came out, but it was a dream with him and push your tea at the time, you know what I'm saying, And it's like, yeah, he just did, he just did. Can't just say ship like that? Described Okay, so this

is before they had me. This is wild. They had Behold you have a record. It leaked on you know, if you really dig on the net, it's out there like somebody leaked it. But but yeah, while they had be yeah, wow, yeah and you cool both sides, he was playing both sides? Okay, God, So yeah, damn you blew me away with that. There's a lot of ships like that, like we you know, it's been here a while, but we couldn't tell stories for days and days and day all these moments we were a part of, situations

we helped create and pushed through. Let me ask you a question right now, real quickly. You know site the sound yea and called it now official. It's gonna be the new are being rock? Can't we all? We're gonna even really licensed them? That did you wherever used to be the new? You guys are more prepared. That would be amazing. If you do guys, make out. Yeah, you go back in your production for real? Why? Bro? You know what I'm doing? You're like ro right now? Bro?

You know what doing yet? Yeah? Can we get Brianna and Drake on the album? That's asking I don't can't know? Can we get not gonna same scord? Let me ask you a question. I cannot get drink because I mean, I ask you a question. I'm being dead serious. U, I'm so ready's respected about you and it's something that I'm lacking. And it's why I'm in a position I am where I don't get the credit I deserve. How do you get all those people on those records? How

do you what is your style of being Nori? Because you meet the artists the same way I need. The artist was a radio you were making records. You was a wrapper up, same same level of different fields. Right and a great question, by the way, And I was like, I'm brogetting it right, Brokeriana broke. She definitely not for nothing. Guys, that was a horrible transition. I broke Rihanna. Let meet the picture. Yeah, that's just you know, you gotta pull us up, make sure we got that. That is the

broke Rihanna picture just like me. I met Rihanna. So that is part of a Instagram post she put up where she's picking me up. If you cycon sounds, this is the guy responsible to putting your I don't know. I don't know. It was a couple of years ago. But she's like, he's the first DJ in history to ever play with my records. First spin, blah blah blah blah, the hold on post right fire, I speak to you every once and while, every time she changes the number

whatever whatever. I think I'm in good standings were very cool. Absolutely, how do I get her on one of my records because of this situation? How do you do it? You know what it is like? Hold on whoever's phone. I felt like it's twin. It's on your phone. Anybody, everybody tune in. This is this is this is not this is no ship. This is business. Okay, this is business ship. I am not afraid to be embarrassed. I don't give

a fuck. That's big. Listen, I want your called. Quest I'm calling Jerovi, I'm calling Behind, I'm calling I'm calling everybody five hundred times. Ego right, I have no ego? And what did you say no shame, no shap. I don't think it's ego. It's called no you have no saying. I don't have no san The thing is, and the thing is, most of these people I know they really are my friends. And I know that I had their schedule prior to to this life like I had your schedule,

so I know you ain't dissing me. I know when you're dissing me though, and I know when you curry me, so I know that too. But it took me some time to learn that doing this ship right now that you interview people people now that even people, because I know that that everyone is not gonna be on time, like like you see you today, like today you on

time spanus class and then you're on time here. I expect that from you, right, but I didn't expect that for like Earth got to like everybody comes before us like most of the time, like he did it twice. But anyway, so the thing is, I just don't care, Like I don't care what you saying. What's the script? I say whatever, I gotta say, whatever, you gotta whatever

I gotta say. Listen to my dude, Because the thing about it is some people think that I'm that they're looking out for me when they come on drink camps. It's not after they do it and they realize the actual power then they say damn nor He was really like he want to took this time out to look out for me. But because you're not asking about dream Champs. He was saying this and answering in the dream cham I don't I don't want anything from Rihanna. She doesn't.

Don't you ask why do you feel like you cannot? Yeah, that's your problems. We can say this. You don't want to reason. This is the reason why I answered it like that because I feel like that's your problem. Is I feel like your problems like I don't want to bother nobody. I don't want definitely, And listen, let me tell you something. You put it too much work in this game. But to the ChIL, let me fain this.

You put it too much work in this game, and feel like you're bothering anybody, like not like you're old and we're not old nothing, but the thing is really older. No, I'm good enough. I don't give a fun Tell me no, why don't I already know it's going to be enough about it? But you know what, you started from a negative position. You'll started now from a snuff position. We gotta start like this. You don't start stuff as a DJ, and you're in a different position than even not was

because you were on radio. It was just a mixtape there as a djin we should never feel reluctant to ask ask it like asked sports nor what we move on? You asked as a DJ because we were the people that were doing when so they didn't have radio, when they didn't have whatever, whatever. You were the guy doing whatever. That's what I think. Why do they get amnesia? Though? Well who? But it doesn't matter. But you understand, did you ask? That's the thing you're were lucting to ask.

Right now, you're told me the reason why they would saying how ask other people? But you? But did you ask? Yeah? I was like not Rihanna, all the people and they say no, they said no. They always say yes and then they never show up. But they never said it though they never do it. And you stopped and then I stopped. Then you shouldn't know. You can't stop. This is my thing. Liken't blame. If someone says yes, then you follow up because they said yes, that's their problem.

You shouldn't have said yes. I will as a real ship. You know, I don't know where you even though you're like even though your things, like you say DJ, that was on me. Way, bro, if you said yes to me in any kind of way, I gotta keep going to you say no, yo, man, let me away, wait over the let me let me just like we gotta pay some noise for that because I had to know I did that job. I just think about you used

to do that to me. Yeah, seems like y'all go and I'll get drunk, like I don't give you still he made me because you told me yes and you're doing it, and I'm going if you're not saying that, I'm told your friend, your friend, your friend, nobody told me yes, and I'm going to someone says that's hurt you. Yo. Here's because you need to understand about scythe but scifers want to Scife is literally like like my bro, like

the same way you got to like brothers. Sife is a negative where like we'll be we'll be somewhere and what it doesn't matter where then where we'll be somewhere and he'll see Jay and jail be like, sorry, you have a conversation with him, blah blah blah. You're safe. Anything you needed, alright, cool. He'll bounced and be like, like what we're doing? Jay just told you whatever. He'd be like, nah, yo, we'll be chilling with you know what I'm saying. With Chappelle. They will be like, yo, um,

I'm going to such a shut next week. So oh you guys, come fuk with me, all right, Cardie Sife, gonna love you guys whatever I like, all right, Pie, he might need ticket to be like he's gonna forget tomorrow. He's negative towards me though. Are you already going with that movie? You see that movie? Yes? Man? What what? What?

Jim Carrey? But Jim Carrey, this is what'll be doing for you from now from now on, any one of your rap friends, if I write you to lunch tomorrow, no excuse me, I write you to lunch today, I'm a liviating exactly, I'm ant. So if I take to use a name, whople go to lunch to Mars and you think because I'm drunk, you don't hit me the next day. It has never been my fault. That is all. That's my problem. I'll do it for other people, but I don't do it for me. Why But what's what's

the reason. Let's turn into your Stockholm syndrome, yourself, your Stockhold syndrome, yourself like this d gonna be closer to niggas than me and it's like we'll be like and I'll be like, you're sorry. From where wherever? The fun? Let me take these, Let me take something takes, take something to say, take something to say which isn't admirable, but pay it forward because every time you can pay it for it even more a right. If you're coming to people for money, you're coming to people for ship.

Where you're giving something away, it's something different. But if I can help you and you can help the next person, people are with that. The thing is sometimes we need to be told two or three times. I think you give up on one and a half one half yeah, And that's and the thing is, I don't like bothering people. That's my thing. You need to get you have to bother people, bothering other people. Let me show you remember this. I was in New York. We were in a cab

going somewhere. I said, like, when's the last time you hit Dave, He's like, I haven't hit him in a minute. I surely took my phone out, but I speaker Yo Carter, I said, Dave, what up? Said? You know I'm here with side So the floors, Yeah, that's big. The floors said name dropped. So I said yo, I said, I said, Dave, what do you do? When he's like, Yo, you know what, you guys should come out to l A and fun with me. I'm doing a Netflix special. I was like.

When he's like, Yo, wanna be on there Sunday, I'm like, all right, cool, we did Monday. They're right hung up the phone. You know what. You know what you came to Monday. That's like a little like coming the next day. So it was like it was like a dad, no, no, It was like no, but he said this is uh, this is where it because day did say he called them and he was like, oh, yeah, I'm shooting my special in l A. I also want to shoot a separate special with the guys who opened up for me.

I'm gonna put you on it. If he didn't call, I would have never fucking got on that, you know what I'm saying. And then even when he said it. I was like, he don't really want me on there. Yo, this is what I'm talking about though, Like am a little bit loser. You have a attitude sometimes and that's it's just for me though, because I know I go. You know, I was hard. It's ego and the thing is you gotta have no. No, it's action and that which forms an ego when you have lack of it.

Because you say because I don't want to, you know what it is like I don't want to be told no, so I won't even ask yet, I won't even ask. Like me, I don't given a fun if I can know, yeah, I can't. Eventually you want to come back. I laugh about it, but eventually you're gonna come back. Listen you people listening, you know many people, my friends. It was like, I don't know what you're doing. When I screamed, you did your dreams like listen, no, nobody believe my guy,

But I don't know what you're doing. And then at first because we didn't know we're doing, and then we started, we did more episode. You said, you know what, fun, let's just kid just to us. Let's just just to us, and if it works, it works, if it doesn't sucking. We are know that we we went out like that. Yeah, whether we fall along, I think you didn't, I'm saying maybe whatever, But yeah, I love from I want you to fill them back. No, I'm like, I'm about getting

that was like I listen, let me tell you listen. Listen. I've been trying to get you on here for three years. I wanted so listen and you can I say something kind of up me two weeks ago, so I said, let's I want to let's go ahead, let's do something. But I got to forget it. And I don't know, are you gonna say? I just want to ask something because I don't feel like you're on Rosenberger like each other at all. I just want to throw it like each other. I think know we always liked each other.

I didn't like working with him at Beauty works. Chemistry works very well. I love Rosenberg. We did not get along, and we had to work every single day at five in the morning. That's no. I don't even how good a friends you are. That's crazy time. And we have a lot of different styles of the way we work. I like to be on time, I like to be organized. He likes to be the opposite of everything I just said. But but we do have a chemistry is very funny and right now we are in a very good place. Man.

The one Epstein podcast is back and very well. See see LORI has been on there many times. I'm never afraid to ask Dori. He always says yes, no matter what. That's why I love this guy to death. There. But I'm gonna be embarrassed. Yeah, it's not anything about it is no, because the thing about it is being no, being told no. It's actually more positive than negative sometimes because sometimes you're just so much advanced more than the people.

Like I so much of love. When I bring somebody something and then they say no one, then they come back and be like, yo, I didn't see it, And I'm like, yo, I'm sorry, but Nick, I'm good, Like I'm good. I went over here. This is probably with God, you know what I'm saying, like like I just believe in it. I just and I just keep going like I don't care, like I don't really care about um. Like some people get embarrassed, like what I used to know this was, you know, and see got big lips.

I'm sorry, you know what I'm saying, Um, I used to skateboard, and no one skateboarding in the hood, no wonder. This is why I probably me and for real connectedly over on a different way, I skateboarding. That's my mother. I called my mother right now that I'm talking about skateboard mat time. You never said that. I want to like this real shape, this real ship. So I'm skating in the hood. And they had thrown the rap and I busted my lip and they laughed at me, and

they laughed at me. I ran upstairs and I was like, everyone laughed at I was tough for that? Why the fund did I run? I had never from that day on, I want come on, I'm gonna just bust my eyes and they laughed. I'm so you laughing that my lip and like I didn't care, Like I don't care, like I'm gonna come outside, but wing worms gonna come outside of scrape somebody. I'm coming outside. There's better hustlers than me, there's better people with clientele this. No one's gonna stay

outside longer than no one's gonna out work. I don't give a funk who you are. And the thing about it, it's like you've got the greatest connects. Like, if y'all was to really do an album, that's this is the reason why I'm bringing this up. Still going so hard? Is y'all was to do an album? You have rich? Both of your histories were so rich when I google with y'all, if this was an hour long process for both of y'all, right, because y'all history is so rich.

So if y'all was to do album together, I don't know if y'all thought of this. Probably I did, but if you didn't, I'm if I said, well, listen, if I wasn't really do together, what y'all? What y'all, what's your histories like? Just think about it. You with the Drake Ties, you went to total lanes, gotta do this. You gotta fall them out. The weekend would have to

come and just show love. And then and then you with both of y'all with to be Yond and you with the Rick Fross and there's nobody can say no to y'all too. In my mind, they already said no. Jesus Christ, I don't know where we're going, man, You let me chance, gotta manage you. Listen, man, man, we were going in episodes, but it's always, but it's always you guys. It. The thing is we can have you know, uh m O P managers you know, talk to Mr Lead.

It's always better when m O P talks to if you know what I'm saying, Like it's it's it's so, it's so, it's still would be you initiating it. And like like like the thing is you gotta not be

afraid to say no. You know what I'm saying. You got to you know what I mean, Like for you know, I'll be honest, like for me and the reason why I like it's funny because like me and it's like, are such a good friends because we always like ship that he excels in you know what I'm saying, Like he'll call me up and be like, Yo, I just went to this whatever whatever, Yo, you love this ship. But it's the same way that like sometimes I call him, I'm like, Yo, Psyche, the funk are you doing? Y'?

Like yo, link my yo, link my man, blah blah blah blah blah, Like you know what You're right, CARDI that like I'll hype him up. I can see the album together. Intro Day Chapelle first record with Yanna sat here repor drake, what's the other nigga? This party, party, next to party, next goal. We like the weekend ross in the weekend awsh call it yo, how to hit? But I dont know if you want to check already, I don't even want to check. I just want to

just go Platinum first to listen. But because we're gonna Plata, We're gonna play even if you're just in Canada, Canada Platinum. We take it that. Here's the world. I love that you don't make you have a g I'm telling you this is. This is. I don't know if you al was ordained. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, let me show you. Let me show you something like the reason why I'm right now, Like you know, there's a whole other part. Like you know, there was a wire where I was

managed by Mark Pitts. You know what I'm saying. Well, of course you know that was bigg He's manager and so forth, and it was those guys that like really pushed me to like diversify my career and take a chance on the executive side. So for me, you know right now, like a title as of today is Senior Director um of Urban inn for your topic. But the reason for that though. The reason for that though, is because it's like, I want to change the infrastructure so

that like the next nigga can get on. He don't have to go no disrespect, but he don't have to come to America to get his deal. He don't have to go to London. He can get that same deal

that he dreamed about it and thought of about. I want to build it so that the next generation the kids get on because at the end of the day, like as much as I love this ship, like it's one of those ones where I don't look at it like it's not about me, I love music and just like you, like sometimes I'll be turning, you know, turning on drink Champs and his new single will be playing

at the beginning of the show. I'm like, you know what I'm saying, Like I always make music because it's like I love the ship, and it's like until niggas is like yo, your garbage, like don't do it anymore, I'm gonna keep doing it. But you know what I'm saying, Like I'm changing the infrastructure that out next niggas can get on. Seeds back to this site out the Cardi site, official site, card Special site now has to have Cardi in it somewhere. I don't mind. We can work in

it Cardi sound. Where does this album go? Independent? Massive Pill to the Moon? I feel like Massive Pill. Who's promoting this? Who's getting the marketing it? We're getting the market and budget. But like man, it's a perfect place for it. Um all the videos of exclusive on title yeah, and all the television right, you're gonna go straight to Diddy Revolt and robbing and everybody. I'm just telling y'all see the vision. But but we gotta be afraid not to say no, no, that's not Let me be honest,

it's not this. This, this is this is the number one thing we need Rihanna to do four bars far Listen, we just need four balls, Rihanna, you can't do that. You're gonna get two balls on man and two balls on I'm getting falls right, And then he rapped eight six balls this we got na na honey with your ro the mother got ball and and then Kanye and then you have something to do with Kanye. Forgot No, you don't not No, I wouldn't, I wouldn't. I listened, I did a lot of niggas that I should get

credit for and take credit for. Kanye wasn't one of them. I mean, I was a fan and I was around the raucous era who he was with Most Definite, probably in the early days. But I didn't really do nothing for him like that. But she used a DJ from Black starmer At DJ for Most Jack Black, Little Kim, so little Kim. I don't want to do my whole history whytory for a lot of people. Doryzy, Biggie, Biggie, No, not, you know. I thought so enough was big enough, enough

enough kiddy working over Kim a little kid. I was with a Little Kim when Biggie was still alive, and then I was with Little Kim when when died. It sounds a little crazy the way say I was with Little Kim. No, not with people say you Kni, my sister, I don't because we feel like little Kid is gonna come hopefully Foxy Brown come. Hopefully that's what we need. Damn.

I said the worst when a little Star Hope Definite, Little Kid enters the drink Chap stage, like Black Boxing enter the drink chaf stage, Nicky Manala Card and itches a Drink Chap stage. Hopefully we get all the female you know you need to get to ease. You need to you guys, listen, here's the other thing. I listened to this and you guys need to understand the power that you have though, because it's like a lot of

the times you guys speak but very US centric. But the thing is like you guys are international and a lot of times like you have some guests on there, and it's funny because you guys are even like sometimes you downplay like the power that that you like. So one of the some we're gonna have you be all enter that actual guests and gonna introduce an international guest,

someone from anywhere. You're gonna come on Drink Chap and you're gonna be And let me tell you what big you let me take you on right, so many people because you obviously we've been trying to connect to get you on dream Chaps. So you've been trying to connectic us on Drea and we really seriously it just was we was just not the right place at the right time, right plenty of times. Right. She never got on the internet.

You never said nothing crazy about us. You never like there's so many other people that make up theories of why, like yo, listen at you don't want me there? Like they were like, if you don't, you know, like things will contact us. And sometimes you just don't work out for the schedule or whatever, but it eventually will come. But first of the vaults and eventually we'll put yourself together. But so many people have made up stories and just

you know, start talking about because you know didn't. And the thing is you'll for y'all that don't know. We're real hip hop man. There's not no fake smoke. This is no uh oh, I know this is real. We're real hip hop. So I want to thank you. Let me say something real talk, real fucking talk, Real talk.

Card now is actually one of my favorite mts. No bull share, I don't say when they asked me top five because you're alive and well, but real talk you're one of my favorite em I never finished my story here which one real quick last boom. We're in the parking lot in Toronto, Caravan of Rihanna performs uh Tianna Mario All. When people right, they say, yo, CARDI, can you be a surprise guest? Walk out? I d J fulked on some songs, Jay was not performing. Jay was

just there as the label president. This nigga CARDI goes out there and destroys the fucking stage. Disgusting. I can't say it right, you said right, destroyed so bad. Hole was like safe, get set, like he had to perform. He couldn't be standing there and watch that massacre. Like you say, he like crushed all the Rock Nation artists. He definitely like yo, what people don't know also, and this is a real thing, is that, um I believe.

I believe you'd have to ask Mr Morgan. But like on stage, right after I perform, these niggers offered me a deal on the stage and wild and this is no yo. Me and j became super cool after that. But it's like, yo, it was the exact same time that a Can offered me a deal. So it was like, I was like, what the funk do you do? Do you go with jay Z with his new label Rocket Familiar or do you go with a can and corn thing? You know what I'm saying. And it's stem its stem

from that thing. But I mean me, you know, personally, all I can really do was was preying on it and it comes flew me down to Atlanta. You know what I'm saying, taking shoot his crib? You know you got a gas stations and then actually does why? But what do you mean why? So when you're that rich, you want a gas station? Want stuff? Let right now you want to give you and you should just see the gas stage. I stopped there. There's so many dubs. I said, I'm staying this side in the car, so

skip through. I'll say, holy mon, friendly, let me just staying in these things. They ain't look dirt. They look like they were to shoot somebody's and I want that boy dad, I don't but that la that all stem though, you know what I'm saying from that whole caravan and ship like it's you know, it's it's a wild it's a it's a wild journey broad white meshes. You fucked of a dangerous Yeah, it's a white girl. So so here. So here's the thing. That's why I've been with my wife.

We've been married to ye I'm sorry, I see what I'm a saying before that my gene listen, I know I was the story I've been. But I've been with my wife since my very first record deal. Though since you know, let's leave this a long. So it's like the reason, yo, But anybody who's married, so you should

know what the thing is. It's like, I'm the type of person like if I'm somewhere and I see like some crazy chicks or whatever, I'm calling my wife like, yo, it is crazy over here, and that's how we That's how we were, That's how we remained together because man's ain't trying to hide it or whatever whatever, Like you know what I'm saying. But I'm the greatest a b

A asked my association, you know what I'm saying. So it's like anyone of anyone of the minds them like the ash you know your body, so your way, you tell your your wife you're having a good time, while I'll just have a good time happening, good time happening around, good time over there, toys. Never tell my wife, dad, you didn't over there? I like baby, you know, and ship bringing out yeah yeah, yeah, stopping just be guy. Anyway I'm saying, if I happen like right now, I'm

got way to come on right now? What's going on? Like man, you know ship, you know, ship's called crazy. You know, finish your cards, your great time choking hip by I want to look at you. I can't say that because she's like, why you having that quite without mean, like it's just real fit. So I kind of like a gun, lie I don't, I don't lie. A yeah, good luck, No man. They just came out right in the middle of all that ship. But it's like it's

a lot of white girls. I'm just saying, I'm gonna saying, girls, if you're a white girl, I went to an a white girls, you went to an a car. So he he the white girls just like the white girls like here listen, I'm just it's a it's an art of doing it a collapse. It's an art of doing to collapse. Red Man and method Man. You want to collapse actually always made sense only for their fans because they weren't trading fans. Their fans were actually the same fans. They

would have same right card and a car. That's trading fans to me because we had the underground. And I don't know if you know this, but a con is the whitest black person that's to see him eight car like, I mean, he's right to you accept a car heat purple nigger like he who he black? You know what I'm saying. I'm like, and they love him seems the same way. Still you about sales? Seeing Seal walk through Malibu and people move, I'll see it away right, people like, hey,

how you doing the way? Yeah? So yeah, yeah, you know what I was going with this. But I listen. So that's what I'm trying to say that that audience right there. No, it's we need to do a record Seal's we need to see it on the album, that album, on that album. I ain't gonna I'm sure getting down to see us on the album, and I'm scared of see I'll see him in um Noble two times. And I'm just like, I don't know how to proach Sal I just said about I thought about. I was like,

what a reason? Only do you only approach people like you didn't don't know who you are? Now? Sometimes I just I just feel like sometimes just it depended on the moment. But still like I feel like Steal like listening to the Only Smooth Ship. I feel like I feel like he listened to the Doves. When you go to sleep, what record? What record of he wants? Do you think seeing what you explained, but now listen, I mean just yourself, no letter. All right, the craziest one

of my craziest phone goals in the world. I ever guy Richie. No, no, I'm made retre and bro like I didn't get a phone call from like um when Perell called me and said, Yo, Michael Jackson just told me he wants super Dog. He was Superrell made him beat. You never told us. That's because you've got a real interview on him. Bullshit. Yeah no, no, no, no, no,

he said, yeah, yeah, yeah. What happened was I don't remember because you know, so super Doub blows up obviously goes through the roof whatever, whatever, whatever, and asked me make it old. No oh no, it was about to drop, but it's done already. You know, we finally caught on

remember super Duck. Alright, super Remember the album dropped ironically put your records told me they played super Dug for all the DJ and they said the record would never work because it's too dark because they don't know who around is. To them when they said this is the life, y'all the gangster. They have no idea. This thing gotta choke go on and take I have no idea, right, because you know at the time. At the time, you know, and I got the super gangster image. That record is

called super thug. You don't even say superduck. It's not even I never even say super fucking one time because because to tell you the truth, if you really really listen, at the end, the album was done, and you listening, I said R E nor the remix Supertluck was actually in R E remix that had nothing to do with the album at all. I met this producer at the end. Wow, we're saying this movie was just talking about Mike. So anyway, it's coming. So anyway, so anyway, no terrible. So we

make the record. You make the record, Boom boom. I love the record. H whatever, the ship boom. Now it's on to the to the next one. So I make oh no, and I make um the one with Calise, same night, Cocaine Business, same night. Yeah. But Rob Flint came next album. Yeah yeah. So in between the Barrel calls me and says, yeah, I got the Wild It's called And I said, what's up? He goes yo. Michael Jackson told me to send them peace. So like all the time, I was like word like I'm just happy.

But then he goes because I'm thinking, like to myself, why are you calling me? Like, but fucking this is a great call, Like I'm gonna be a barter anything Michael Jackson, even the third party. And he goes, but he said the pizza I sent him, wasn't it? So I said what he said? He told me I want some super thugs and I ain't gonna like that old mom. I was walking around nigga Mike want I could have been in a Burgo spot. They're me my mom the check later on my middle I'm like, y'o listen, do

y'all understand Mike want my ship? Like I give you that? Yeah? Yeah, come on, sit your fantastic. Let me tell you something. The greatest, the greatest shut up, the greatest mix tape sampler ever created what's called your heard, mixing before Norria's ant came out, mixing whatever new singles he had, whatever bootleg records and the old CNN album cut out to this day, go hit me up and it says hosted body phone has flex and I got it and flexing it is my mentor. I love him that he can't

do ship. He said when you've done mixing, I say, and he said, I wanna say, offered you and I was like, oh, I'm doing it for free. He's like, no, no, no, we're gonna get seventy five hundred from the label. I was like, seventy. I don't said, they're never gonna give us that. He's like, he's like, they'll give us TEK, but we're gonna hook him up. Yes, makes it look I got one thousand, don't matter if I matter what I got in the fucking history box on one day

when this all come. When you look at that, you're heard next tape, that's sucking me. And that was all because I wanted to represent my fucking man. You know what I'm I'm in the NR video. Look I'm skinny and ship your prisoners, bro. I was talking about that. That was that was the first. That was the first UM sample ized seeing bootleg Yeah, like people didn't sample the bootlegs. Sam. Yeah, it was like that ship I've

seen it on Canal. I was like, oh, shoot, I don't even want to suck you up on Africa because usually beat the African dude, come on my June frond out Jeria. We're just started to me man from the same place. It's like, you know, and then I looved y'all seen the sampler. I was like, you know what this live read the word like that was at the first Internet. I was talking about the Internet back then. But you know it's a crazy tunnel. You just telling

night club and we haven't talked about the tunnel. You was the opener open. Yeah. My job was to play Like when I hear open up, I just feel like fingerpop. People like like like like you know that. I'll be like, you know, like girls like it's like applies and worthy girls. I guess you know. Others ahead and talking about the tone. Nightclub was the ellest club in the world ever. Yeah, Sunday Night hapenother club like no Sunday Night New York City.

I started there, I want to say, nineties, six, nineties seven in that era all the way until when it closed two thousands or something. But it was every Sunday night playing the realist, grimiest street hip hop ship. And this is early in the day where hip hop there wasn't a lot of hip hop and clubs. There wasn't hip hop where you could just go on your on your title or whatever and just hear it, like you had to like go to it, and this was planning,

and it was the fucking craziest shit ever. It was. There was a jail house search on the way in your shoes out, They were knocking boots and all that, and I still got a lot of people got sit there and it was shoot, you ever worked at a record store? Yeah, Fat Beat? Wasn't you signed the Fat Beats? So we did. We did you through Fat Beats. So it's like, yeah, you know, listen, we used to So

it's is he is. Mr Morgan at the time used to have an apartment at five sixties State Street, right, and um, you know we used to know we used to be in that crib in Brooklyn, literally like taking our our vinyl and stuff and all that ship. You know what I'm saying, like putting all the vinyl in the sleeves, sending it too fat Beat, sending it to

London and sending it all around the world. So this is obviously like you know what I'm saying, Like we literally had to walk around with backpacks full of our ship, you know what I'm saying, to give out the different DJs before in and and all that ship. So yeah, like shout out that hole, that whole crew. But that's that's that's where I come from. Though. My first tour in Europe was with was with Barbito. You know what

I'm saying. Yeah, Barbeto from from Stretching Barbi too, you know what I'm saying, Like he um, he took us on a tour. It was us. The roots was on their dilated people's was on there. You know what I'm saying. There was a mega hurts people, a bunch of different people. So I come from. I come from that way. Man, We've been in this fucking game. I see why you get people drunk because then they just start saying whatever you start. Let's come on, let me tell you something.

Break let me tell you. Can't tell you something? Come on? Can I tell you how fucking can I say something? Can I tell you how crazy it is? You a little different. You're my first rap friend. Remember calling you up and saying, can I DJ your fucking birthday party at palladium or some ship? You know how crazy it is to now be friends with Jerobi from a tripes on quest, Like I know he's here hanging out with us.

That's crazy to me. All I want to do is go watch him tell him Trump Queste stories, daylight soul story and he's watching us tell stories. That's crazy to me. He says, a great guy. Yeah, and that's a great alp. The Fife, you know what I'm saying, Like Fife was I met Jerobi because obviously like jerove be and fight for best friends and JERVI was like, yo, you want

to fights favorite mcs, you know what I'm saying. And it's like to me that ship is wild bummed out because it's like I grew up watching them, you know what I'm saying, all the native tongue. So it's just funny, like how ship, you know what I mean, comes around full? So yeah, up, but when you put Jeroby right there, Okay, so we gotta put him there, Okay, don't put that child whatever? And yeah if not together right, it's to make a job. You're pulling the wire wire? Yo. Anybody

here ever seen American Meeting the movie? You've seen the movie American? Everybody they say, Mindo almost I'm still was Mondo me. You got the stuff in me? Come on, go shot town Mondo. I'm you know you don't watch next year And that Potts buddy. Yes, yes, you wrote he was going on to drink drink champ. I love that big job when you went to the bathroom, saying says, A fucking honor and a privilege to be friends with you and have you here watching us do it. Everyone.

All I do is watch you do it. These are my these a fucking these are real friends of mine. That's that's why I'm here to support what the same theyday, my town, my doctor Town tower, doctor Town shot out candy on the building. I'm saying, yeah, so yeah, but we we we, I mean, we knew each other before, but we're very close friends now. Dave Chappelle like that that a the Dave Chappelle is the illness connected. So you're telling me you and Robe is like the y'all

plug is Dave Chappelle. Yeah, Like, well you before each other before, but now Dave, do you know what's funny? You're similar to Dave Chappelle a lot of ways. Please keep you used my idol on them. Connect. You connect a lot of people, and you create a vibe and you look out for your people bigger, small, you know what I'm saying. And Dave is the same way. Dave will have these events. Man, it's crazy. He'll have like we'll be in a room. It's like I remember one

roommate was saying, it was like us. It was like, uh Nipsey Hustle t I Sanjay Gupta. You know what I'm saying. Like it was not rooms like that. You know what I've been. One time I went to Dave Chappelle's house. He has this event at his house in Ohio, the juke Joint, And he called for me, and he's like, really coming to my house, right? I said, yeah, he did you buy a ticket yet? I go know, he goes, go buy a ticket. I think I got room for you. One great story, So I said, I said okay. He's

like I said okay. He's like, but don't be late because if you're late, these people are not gonna wait for you. So I'm like, who the funk are these people? So I go to the Teterborow Airport, New Jersey, so chill. So Dave calls me. He goes, yo, come down to my shop. I want you to come and get on. You know what I'm saying. He's like, Yo, don't work. I got the PJ for you. He was like, that's like a word. He's like, you're not gonna be alone.

There'll be some people you might know driving Chet. Come on, I'm the first one at the airport, right. Carter was in too, but Cary came from Toronto. He didn't come from New York. I'm the first one at the airport. I'm sitting there and Q Tip and Jerobi from a trial called Quest walk into the airport. I'm like, to damn together, talk to the Time interviews them. But to be on that coach proximity on a fucking private I was like, this is my fucking childhood dreams coming true.

Then David Blaine did David Blade didn't the magician. It only look in. You gotta floats, gotta pick So I'm like, oh ship, Yeah, he floated in. So David Blaine's in the private airport, bending quarters, biting glass, all types of crazy ship. Then then fucking Bradley Cooper walks in. I'm like, oh ship, Bradley Cooper is getting on the private. Jim too. He walks over to us, like us on the day when this recent ship it's like maybe like two years and three is not every three. It was way before

the stars Bowing movie three years ago, so boom. Then I'm like, what the fund is happening? Then Yo, Kings walks in Gail Kick. Then Tony came. Tony's Dave's friends from high school, which I was what I'm talking about the biggest things in the world only Campbell. Now that the Hardison walks in Bethean Hardison is codem Harderson's mom, and the Bush apparently she was like the one that like she's like a manager supermodel ye Camber, like fucking

manage the supermodel show age or whatever. And you know, all these people we get him a fucking plane and it's the craziest ship. That's not crazy because everybody's at ease because everybody knows that somebody if you know, if you're cool with Dave plane, you gotta person everybody not handing fucked up on the plane. They had some drinks. Well you know, but your son do you on this

end of the time. And that's that's normal for Dave, right, he brings all these people together and like you just you just that's how MORI is to like if nor introduced to you, you know, he's already good. Yeah, you know what I'm saying and you know the ships. I'm the Dave Chappelle or hip hop. That is the most I've ever got pypon sound, but years more racing Jesus, that's the best collap Chapelle hip hop. I need to I need to bake up. I don't like it. I'm

gonna need a real drink out to that. So we got we got some of you calling me and white. We got some vodka. We got the last bottles of DJ College now like the last bossors point. At one point, Yeah, called DJ College, I called d J No. No, y'all had a little like fake smaller scuffle. It wasn't eight smoke. It was a friend smoke. What happened it was really righted him to a party and he did not show That was the reason, was one of them, just a lot of things, because he hasn't shown to your ship

for a long time. Yeah, he never showed him to my ship, but never. But why did you resign to that? One thing we all said on the on the on the because like why didn't have to take it to there? At that time, I was very upset. I was very upset. At the time. I was going to do a lot of personal ship where I feel like I do a lot for other people and nobody was doing anything for them. This was pre therapy, So that's when I like every would have changes. Oh, therapy have change it? Well? What

have changes that? Though? Yes, really made him? Before therapy? You say I wasn't a hate I was upset that I was helping people out and maybe nobody was helping. No more helping on something that's no to behavior that's not you know, but you gotta understand my relationship with how The reason why it hurts so much is because we was tired. It's not like a that's just like someone in the rap game, like we were brothers, you know what I'm saying, still are so I don't even

say it past tense. Still I haven't been to the view. So why hasn't Cally come on? Drink traps? I'm asking you. I'm listening to the type of why y'all have a problem? Count ask you how you actually I don't. He said he's gonna come on. He said he's gonna go on, but he still he's not coming on. Reason I don't know. I don't know. I'm asking you, I don't know. Don't

even then they end up coming in game. I don't have been asking in Spanish, which I could ask you pick up the second sound step in the class, say how to conjugate verbs and so called. So the first time Um Kalid was ever on Hot ninety seven was because of Meat. I brought him on to guest DJ introduced him to know to introduce some of the flavors on FLEXI show I have the team. I don't know

I got. Calla was my nigga every time I came to Miami, helped you out six back in those days, no more like nine, and I like, well you should come from sorry jams jams um right at the tail end of the next ninety six days. But Kalie like

I used to come to Miami a lot. He's a d J. I was mad I suhoul to do Memorial Day weekend like five nights or hardy man Cali would send someone to pick me up at the airport and then that kid would leave and I would just take college truck and you would just let us just use his truck for the weekend, like butter food, go Calla all of my people's and then um and then uh I brought him to New York and like put him on the radio and all this crazy ship and he

blew up. I mean crazy, you know what I'm saying. But like I felt like anytime he needed something, he would call me and I play his record. I go hand on the creed, I played I broke Rick Ross because of him. He gave me the Rick record. You know what I'm saying. Well, I didn't know who Rick Ross was. I mean, I liked the record, but it was really Kalid's favor. Callen was like, can you play this? This is my not even my artist is a artist

from Miami. Just records were trying to make it be something and I blew it up in New York and then me and Ross became cool because of that. But originally that was a Calid favor. Whatever you want, whatever you need, my brother, I'm gonna play it. So then he blows up and I like my improv show. Everybody in the world did my improv show. Nor was my

first guest ever, and and he would always not. But then another thing with calis that he was running with this guy named Jay One's, who was you know a yeah, So so like even Jay One's is running with Calda and I'm like, why you're not doing nothing for me? But now I realized I don't. I don't give a

funk if you do something for me or not. But I was just wondering back then why they wouldn't do this, you know what I'm saying, like show up to one of my clubs or events or parties or birthday party or something, and like you know, he was all over the place. So that's why I know, he said at himself to Shark, yeah yeah, yeah yeah, So that's why I got upset. But now it was so good, so good. Bigod to Calda was the one that introduced me to Bunty kill you. Really, I wasn't you know. I was

in New York City doing press. It was when McCarty slang came out. I'm in the hotel and I get I get a call. I did it recoar about to Kido too, and he says, yo, cardy. I said, card of what's good? He said, you know, I got Rodney he saw on the phone. I said who? He said, hold on and then keep on the phone. I said, yo, oldest card and all yo. And I'm like, this is you have to understand, like two thousand at one, but I mean two thousand at one bound to kill. He's

like one bound in the butt. I have to big up Callie because Kali was so entrenched into the dantall, like, you know what I'm saying. But that was my link to Bounte Killer was was Calli Caldi was in a dangerous video. You know what I'm saying. We shot We shot that in here. We shot that in my m A lot of my career when I really started making a name for myself as a DJ, was me trying to copy calid Yo ship. He used to fucking Flex Bird. No, you know what I just said. Let me to tell

you something. I feel like this. You can stop me or you correct me. I said this the other day and hopefully there's some people that are there. If there's not, it's no problem to me. D J Flex is the best radio d J ever. Like when Flex say New York City, pull over, you know I'm one of them doing that over. Let I missed flights because of Flex told me pull up. I was like, you're driving, pull over.

There's nothing I like to put up kid. You know, I'm like, I missed flight, Like he said, you know this is someone you gotta listen to, and I pulled off listen. I missed. I missed my flight again because of meat Mail and Drake when um Flex had both for them, I was like, Yo, do I really want to be in the air when this happens. See, that's

how hip hop you actually. I know my wife. I called my wife like, Yo, I'm gonna miss this one, and I gotta tell her why because I know she wouldn't have this then, So I until I was doing some funny ship. So I just made it some crazy ship. But I really wanted to hear the two records in my city when this happens. Like that's how hip hop

I am. You know what I'm saying. Thankfully I was a queence for that, Like I'm not gonna lie like when flex like when and you can tell when, like like when Ether came out, the Takeover came out, you can tell that flexible like that jay Z Moore, but he went with and like flex that nigga. Yo, when I tell you, there's no people like, oh, he's taking money, taking pay only he plays favorites, that nigga. All he does is keep his ear to the streets in many

different ways he got his little young DJ. That was who I wasn't the beginning. Keep my ear to the street. Tell him what records is popping this nigga Flex. If he's driving around and he hears a song three times, like if he's had a gas hears somebody playing a song, and then he dropped down hundred twenty fish hits. Somebody play a song, that nigga will do everything in his power to get that song and play it on the

radio night. That's how much his passion is. He'll hear it, be like, why people keep playing this song and I don't have it, and we'll find a way to get it and play it that night. You know what I'm saying. That's how much he loves the radio. YO. And I remember when he played um Naws Hate Me Now and people were like, he's playing it for two hours over. You know what I'm saying. That's how I broke Rick Ross. I was just trying to copy Flex because Flex was

on vacation. I was filling in. It was like Christmas time and He's trying to play hustling Rick Ross. The way I saw Flex break all these different records over the years. You know what I'm saying, and it worked. Obviously the nigger gotta deal for it. But your flex is the old Tomate radio person. Honest, when it's not yet record, he'd be like, yoke, how you call down? When he did it with super Thug, like it's absolutely correct. I deserved this makes a movie? Yeah, Yo, but who's

but who's doing that? Like in the you know what I'm saying, because I'm not gonna need to do no no, no no, I gotta stop it right there. I gotta stop right there. He's still doing it bro like still to this day. I'm not gonna yeah, but that but that makes you heard him them? Yeah, when the entire planet was tuned in? When when you into you you have the record in the UK, Yo, I'm talking to my guys in the UK. These guys are up at whatever time in the morning, three in the morning. Like

they tune in there, we tune in in Canada. They tune into every the whole world. I don't tune but let me tell you this story. Right, So I'm like I said, Mr. Flight, So I still at me. I'm just like a little bit um tych a path sometimes like so I had a record, I'm like in the midst of all this, I hit Flex. I'm like, Yo, can you play this record? This is? This is the day after he didn't he didn't have a meet record. I don't know if I'm supposed to say this Flex,

but I'm sorry if i'm not. But I'm sure he doesn't care. So I called him like, Yo, you know I want I want to know you play this record? So Flex schools to me because I look like a biscuit last night. I'm like, and I'm like, because I'm trying, I'm not trying to say it. So yeah, I'm like, we are you talking about Flexis Like He's like, no, I know. He was to him, like I know you got your hand to this. So I'm like, all right, he looks a little crazy. Wait, I'm sorry, I know,

I know I should know what this is. But he said he had it and then didn't have it. Yes, basically, did he say he had it or he said he was going to get it. He said it's on this way. That was enough, but his fault is that meeks fault. And then he announced it you gotta take it. You gotta take that. Ain't say it. Ain't go on and

say yo, Flex got the record. You know what I'm saying, So anyway, listen, moved to say, you know, then Flex is a real dude, like he takes his wings with his loss in the same way, and I respect you. So I called it, like and so I'm trying to avoid it as much as cancer. I said. Then I said, yo, you look a little crazy. I say, you look he said, no, I know I do. I said, like why you asked me, Like, why how do you know you do? He said? I stayed home the next day, I pre recorded, pre recorded

the next day. I just stayed on, he said. But I was not coming out because I just wanted to think about what happened. Like all right, cool, he said, But I gotta delivery, so I had to answer the door. So I answered the door. So UPS Guy said, the one person I see throughout the whole day, and the UPS Guy sees, he notices me and goes. I said. My respect level of Flex was so much because he like he cheer leads his wins the same way that

y'all lost this one up and STU bringing them the record. Look, you know, but yeah, but yeah, I hate a lot and listen for the people that's listening because earlier you said you know the label and all that. I want people to know. I have never heard of from the Lex ever taking payments like to play your record. No, this was to host a sampler, because I want to make that clear. You want to make that clear, because you know, you know people get because yeah, yeah, like

nobody make it listen. I can bring flex a record. If he loved it, he's gonna play. If he hate it, he's gonna tell me I hate what And I'm not going he tells you he hate he's not gonna play. And he's gonna play. He's gonna play and and tell you all what's wrong. Yeah, you know, he plays the game. He plays the game. He plays the game. So what's supposed to shit you hate in the hip hop roby that I hate? Actually what you love? Last time? Yeah, that's time for the hate facts. What do I hate?

Everybody sound on the same riding a wave. Riding a wave. That's the thing I hate because fifteen million futures. Yeah yeah, because the whole hip hop thing was based on originality, your voice, you know what I'm saying, and everybody else jumping on the thing that's hot. You see everybody just running from I think the thing. You know what I'm saying, Like, I don't like that. That sucks. Like everybody want Lorie Harvey you know why. She's just can't one person soul

and that's it. Get your this one don't want nobody wants the same. Yeah, I wanted for I'm scared of Loyal Harvey. I'm scared of the family. But like every one's with me on this one. I don't know who that is Jesus, Like you married, you don't know who Lorie Army is. You know your garbage. You don't get in a second, you don't know who is Come on, man, yeah, where's that? You know? Lawyer? Absolutely not? Where's that? Yeah? Who is it? Real? It's the story. He's cool that

they read. The first thing was Tory Lanes did did did? Lori Harvey Preger. That's a girl future all that one year she's the goala. Who what do you say, Tory Lanes, Diddy and Future in the same year, she's the goal. Yeah, the plot chickens. Yeah, I did hear about it when she was when she was dating Diddy. Yeah, but remember me, I got to be hardy on this, which what what

do you mean is the public. I will admit, in the last four years since I left the radio, all of this ship, I'm not in the I'm not in the business of hip hop rumors anymore that I have to talk about it on the radio. I'm in the comedy world now. Like I don't follow these fucking Instagram things, but even the comedy world comics hip hop, yeah, ye what the treat falls far from I don't want to comment on observations of hip hop. I talked about my

things that happened in hip hop. I'm saying nobody else can do that. There's no all the DJ, the A and RS managers who now do fucking stand up comedy. That very first I got a joke. I'm talking about how I didn't sound starting Drake when I had a chance to Yeah, another loser move from Side Town. That's it, he had, he got a chance of size Rake. Why aren't we just getting to this now? Okay? I mean, is this something we should have laughed come out a

stament called losing moves Side just hang out? No? No, I mean it's the joke. The joke, the joke makes it sound worse than it is. But I'm saying he gave me his demo cabin in the weekend, and I said to him, I'm not really messing with artists right great story story, but I'm really messing with artists right now. But fucking yeah, I mean, I still made it up.

You know, you know the famous freestyle when Drake was I had to Night seven with read off the BlackBerry that remember made fun of him like like preade meat or something like that. I don't remember, yeah, but yeah, that's I brought him up there. I brought him sit But that's just a joke. I didn't I'm saying I was ain't R at the time and I couldn't signed them. But what you told that, you blew if you're not working with artists. I was. I wasn't in the move

to pun of artists at the time. I had just gotten out of a lot of weird since the start smoking weed, I think I started. He's I can hit pop for stump. Yeah, yeah, I always say that, but you're always gonna laugh at the losing ships. I got a lot of winds and not a lot of winden. It was like saying that a wind and then the MTV ship we thought about that you used a v J. Yeah, I loved it. He used with Law and he put on Engine League, Yeah yeah, Breakfast cloth down. Yeah, I

put her on. I mean I hadn't put her sheet. She got put on it, and I helped to learn how to do radio, which then she fucking like when I got the morning show, I try to bring up with me and they gave her a bullshit deal and then she was like, all right, cool, And then a year later she was like, I'm gonna go to the I'm gonna go to your competition and fucking smash it. But I told myself, I said, this bitches fire. You need to give her a job, and they gave her

some bullshit. And I told you the same way I told Jay, because I try to bring sister. We love her, love of death, we love her. I try to I try to create rock Nation comedy and and you had a comedy show title too. Yeah. Yeah, I had two different ship comedy shows on title um and I tried to do rock Nation comedy. And I tried to explain it to Jay how he had Kevin Hart first. Kevin

Hart's first movie is a Rockefeller movie. Yeah, I'm like, you had the nigger let's first singing with us, sir, I'm norm I think yes, yeah, yeah, google Google, gonna google it, baby, I ain't gonna loogle it, you know, true, yeah yeah, look ahead, but yeah no, I'm just saying like I try to fuck it, like I like, so like that's the same thing like you sometimes Opportunity House part with Yanna. Why I can't follow what can't find?

It's a little weird, like you know, like you like like you know, like the first seems right and since no I have not, I got like that. That's time I seem to me told me was fat like dead, because like I was like, like a T shirt, don't tell you shirts. You got to tell you that by right here, Like we're just going to see the same trade of Hollywood. You know, I got a bigger mum you know them left yeah, Hollywood by the way, I don't know if you'll look, We've got to do this.

It's like, yall sexy you got that's so what do you What do you hate about hip hop? What do I hate about hip hop? Um? A couple of I mean a couple of things. The I mean I came up at the time. The reason why I chose this like fucking crazy ass name was because like we used to try so hard to be original. You know what I'm saying. It's like when I made this ship, it's like I didn't want to go to anywhere else in

the world, and there's gonna be another car. Now there's gonna be somebody that sounded like me, you know what I'm saying, And it's like I came up basically like a mashup of of cares one um issue me from Canada, Big Daddy came to the enemy. The biggest thing that I ever learned coming up as an m C, I think, was like when Caress came with that entertainment album that

was me. That that pretty much summed up what I wanted to do was I wanted to educate at the same time I wanted to entertain nigis you know what I'm saying, And it's like, what what I don't like about it? That's right now, absolutely, but but this is

what I like. What I don't like about hip hop that I don't understand is just like people always and one thing I'm gonna encourage you guys to do I was I was watching the Earth the Earth Joint, yo, the thing is, it's like the one thing that we didn't do I think enough as ogs in the game is really uh kick game to the to the younger generation. You know what I'm saying. You know, I learned to hit my argument before you continue. Sometimes I don't feel

like day respect us enough. So like like I've right here big it's because they don't know though, they don't know what don't know but finish you were saying yeah please, So I mean, like what it is is I think like I cannot blame I cannot blame the younger generation because like when I was, when I was, um, you coming up in this thing like the O g s. Like when I met bust A rhymes like buss A rhymes,

he sat me down and gave me game. He's like when you missed this used to be like this Ray and literally like showed me all the ship when I met him, you know what I'm saying. And it's like all the older heads like they used to you know, when I met them, it was never a friction. It was like, Yo, we funk with you. Yo. This is how it was. What you're doing is dope. But you know what I do feel like that they were the brills.

Like the younger dudes, they more hot people. Here's the thing I don't really funk with, like with the agism and the like it was crazy right now is agism is like the biggest division in hip hop's problem is just like yo, I don't funk with anybody, like even as a senior director of like A and R. Whatever the funk. The reason why I like that ship is I get to see what's on the other side of the iron curtain, the ship that as artists, they never

showed us that ship. They never really showed us what's up. But to me, I don't give a funk as long as you dope if you're sixteen and you fire, if you you know what I'm saying, If you are somebody that's had an age, I don't really recommend people to trying to start as an old as but like if you're somebody that's in the game, but you dope as fun, like when Trick came out with that last album like

this ship was still fired. You understand what I'm saying to it, I'm I'm that person that I don't really believe in, like the age, like when niggas is like he's an old nigger, he's washed, or this nigg is young, so he's the hot ship. If you're young and you trash, you trash, you know what I'm saying. If you're an older head within the music, but you dope, you dope,

that's that's it. That's what it is. But the thing is we have to do our job and educate them because here's the thing I knew about everybody coming up. Like I learned about niggas. That was like I way before me. I didn't just know about niggas. That was like my ages or niggas that came out when I was around. It's a ship to where I learned about everything. Like when you know what I'm saying, like Queensbridge, I can tell you everything about it. Like from mc shanio.

The Bridge is one of my favorite joints. Em C. Mis Key from Brooklyn when he came out with Brooklyn brew up the Bridge like all that ship. Like I was a little kid, So niggas can't talk to me about like yo o, g I'm twenty one, I don't really know about that ship. I was only fourteen. Yo. I was eight years old studying this ship saying we didn't. We didn't have internet, and we didn't have anything that

we talked about right now. Anything we could go to our phones and just google it real quick and be like, Okay, I'm educated. We literally yo yo on some real ship. Like I had to go to Colosseum to understand what Colosseum was. Like, I had to go to Fulton. We had to take trips to London and do shows at the Jazz Cafe in London. We literally had to be out there and experience the ship. But the thing was, I wanted to do that ship. You understand what I'm saying.

But what I tell Nigga is just likeness and very quick and easy way to break it down. If we are out on the street right and Nigga finds a hundred dollar bill out on the street, they're gonna be like, oh, ship, got this hundred dollars? Yo, you know what, I'm gonna take you home to the wife and be like, Yo, we're going to wherever tonight. Blah blah blah. They don't spend a hundred real quick. If that same nigger, if you tell them it's a dollar hour, that's your job

you're gonna get. You're gonna whatever your job is, your employment, you're gonna get paid a dollar an hour. By the time you get to a hundred dollars, you're gonna look at that hundred dollars different. You're gonna value it. You're gonna understand how much work it took for you to get to that fucking hundred dollars, and you're gonna look

at it different. And I think what's happening right now is the phones, the computers are making that hundred dollars easy because they can just find it on the street. They find it, they're like, cool, it's a hundred. But for us, because we had to live it, we had to put in the work. We value the ship different. You cannot really make a nigga live that experience because I nigg is gonna say, O G, I am not fucking fedetting ship. I'm gonna double click and I'm gonna

find an answer. But the only thing that we can do is we can pass down the ship from O G s to the young gs and really give them game. And like going back to that whole Drake story, That's what I'm saying. There was never no beef because as O G. The other thing is you can't think as somebody who's younger and doesn't know better when once you go through shipping near mature. That's why I went to studio, had the conversation with Drake and it was love and

we made a song. We made the last hope that day. So for me, from the time that I started, it's only because I got a certain respect, whether it was niggas in the street that was like, nigga, stay out the street, you fire like yo, don't funk with this ship like yo being the studio them niggas Yo. The nigg is in the streets used to give me bread so that I could go pay for my studio time. We don't do that right now, you know what I'm saying.

And that's why it's like quietly and I'm gonnaigga like you know what I'm saying, like kind of sight, but in a different way, Like I let all the niggas run around and now I let them, but they do that ship. You know what I'm saying. They can pick up themselves and whatever I'm doing, ship quietly because what I want to do is I want to through my platforms, be able to educate but also be able to create opportunities.

And that's why you can ask anybody from anybody from my city that know me, anybody from London, anybody from Miami, Jamaica, anywhere. Like I've done records with everybody. I have relationships with everybody because I am somebody that loves hip hop. Right now, I am living well and there's a lot of mcs. You know that I'm not doing that well less to be super fucking good in understand what I'm saying. I never take that for granted, and that's what I want

to class get so dope. So so you know there with you, what do you hate about hip I mean it's along the lines of what they're saying, but really more in the sense of the music. I don't know

what the older people hate the younger people. So they're like all the ship about your age and all that ship is one thing, but like exposing them to the music, right, Like they don't do the lessons and the knowledge about the ship that came beforehand, right Like all these young all these young kids like Tyler the Creator and all that ship love Pharrell, right, but they do they but do they know you put Pharrell on? You know what I'm saying, so ship like that bothers me a lot

like it bothers me. It's me, don't you know, you gotta do your issue because then they're like, I don't think what happened just in case he thought, like you know, because you know, I washed you up top just being honest and tyler like that bottles don't. Actually I have my fan I was not a fan of the action in the mood that happened at night, Like I have always shown people respect from Busy Be to Dave East. Like Busy Be and Dave East, it's the same amount

of respect. That's how. That's how, you know what I'm saying. I love to piggyback off that. It's it's weird because like once you love something or something you want to do, you try to find out everything you can about that. And I don't understand, like these dudes say they love it, they don't do that knowledge. I don't. That's something I know, you know what I'm saying, because in it there for it is it awful. So I think it's like you're

gonna say, like it's so much easier now. I think it's it's more because what do you like something like when ain't like comic books, spider Man, every Spidery, but

I saw damn exactly. I listened to every Malcolm X speech ever I can find recording I've listened and then like something heck on my vote, exactly as I used to read interviews and like Mugs from Cypris Hill, no thank You's gonna try Like Mugs from Cypris Hill was like, oh, I sampled this record to make this song, and I went and try to find every day we'll find about that artist of that group. That right. They don't do that now they which fucking bothers me because let's say,

for example, Asap Rocky. Asap Rocky's real name, his legal name is rock Him. He's named after Great. How are you not researching rock him? When you learn that and learn everybody, we don't know that he didn't do that. We don't know, not him, not him. He has I'm

saying fans, yea, his fans. The crazy ship was this is and um little Baby has been one of the uh topics about conversations since EARB got it baby A little little bit, a little bit, a little baby said, I'm going back to Cali like Biggie and the crazy ship is that's a dope line. But the thing is, if you really going about the CALLI is no, yeah, but no, I'm telling about the original going back to Cali record that that was l L who Jay that was big. So what I'm saying is, oh, got it.

So what I'm saying is this, they should have been someone in this camp, like yo, listen, because what's you're saying. It's dope and we're just saying that it's correct. But for a hip hop the story and if I was in this camp, I would corrected that line, like going back to Cali like L Yeah, but he grew I don't mind that one because he grew up on being

more than problems. Yeah, but someone who's a hip hop his story and shouldn't let him know that the original record like like Biggie was sampling right, like you know what I'm saying. You know what I mean? Like I know that's like somebody saying back in the days in the bolevard or lending and it's fucking you know, monster energy from from from Linden fueling the monster from from Linden.

He has the right to say that because he's from Linden, but he also had like when I said bol knows this, and when I said bol knows this, it was and I said, uh, you know this, Like that was clearly us loose. It was a salute to these things. But but there's a lot of people who were hit bothos this, botos that, and they'd be like, oh, ship, they've been norick I ain't clearly been. Because that's why these shows are so important, because the thing is like like I

watched the with Urban It's like the ship was. I was like in the movie theater like throwing popcorn because I like whatever, because if you don't use this platform to talk about that ship, and you're right, there isn't another platform that's doing what you guys are doing all

this ship, there is a platform for that. But the thing is there's a there's gonna be a lot of That's like I heard y'all is on Drink Champs and Yo I didn't know and Z. And that's why it's so important that y'all nigg has gotta keep it, you know what I'm saying, Because it's like, guess what, we don't have the source anymore. We don't have double XL wrap pages all the ship that we used to like we used to look at what I'm saying, damps get like a cover. That's yo. I gotta. I got a

young homie. What you do like your platform is super import don't take it. Appreciate I gotta. I got a young homeboy, high school age. You know what I'm saying. He comes through you know what I'm saying. Sometimes you know what I'm saying, and he knows who you are from the show, So that just opened him up to who's Normy. We'll CEO. You know, but you know about seeing n What do you telling about seat? Like you

know what I'm saying, They don't really know. Yeah, so that the doors somebody you have fans from dream chaps that don't even know about seeing that and all that? Right? Absolutely love it though, yeah, absolutely Like like like like before and from up in my insecure stage, I would have been like, what point a little way like you? Because I worked so hard, But then nowadays I said, you know what I appreciate. However, you, however, you have set me into your home and you have set me

in as Chicken. It's like if I had Chicken, norm Chicken, I'm gonna come on from Chicken. I'm come on Chicken, because I gotta I gotta do some I gotta do some crazy ship. I'm come on. I'm gonna come on from first and then come on from Chicken. Wee Chicken. I'm she could give me the first one because I know I'm some first rapping nigga first, Michael Raff's got chicks, this's got sneakers. I'm coming out with vegan and the first. It's gonna be crazy. But because I'm different, I'm just different.

But let me be up the psyche of Sounds. You're the first person and one day you did my my new show Spanish class. But I've actually learned the Spanish because your name is Louis Diaz. You don't know spec track from name we give everybody trying to but how about Spanish tracks? Coming to span? It was fun. It was fun, Bobby, I really learned some ship today. Well. Also, I didn't know was I supposed to be cracking jokes

because I was trying to cracking jokes comedian. We didn't really see much on the House Old because you know why it's not drink Champs like drink Chaps is no edit. This is all about that. So we're just gonna get you know, a little great manuteto. You know what I'm saying. The fact that we're both quarter weekend, but the fact that we both donna speak Spanish, it's a travesty. Travesty. Actually I learned. I try to learn Spanish two or three times in my adult life, and I just vote.

So you went to a regular like public Spanish class like class. I would like to do that me and Mr Leak better. The way he do it with an individual teacher. That's a little hottywood. I need. It's how it works. I had a guy come to me. I didn't recognize that's my friend. He's hired. But I need. I needed to go to a regular public like where it's like, you know, motherfucking Jamaican is trying to learn

your Wait, why why how you set comus? Indeed? Sit you know, I want to go to that the public ship like I go there, just sit down on the track of leg he y'all know, gone, man, all you said, uh, move ahead, you're involved that gone yell h listen, man, we got lessons in the building. Man. I want to thank y'all. Man. We had yo yo jirobi man. Man this is so much a great guy man, so much. When I see Queen's people, many are living on the

motherfucking tropical places. One drinking douce say monster drinks and I'm having a type of sounds to take some motherfucking type of bones and motherfucker calling out of fish you this niggers here got greener, took more shots type of I'm just saying to the drink champ, that's your fans gone there like Yana's on me, like we need me yaah aby, we need we all this needy to get down with. She's small blunts, that's the crazy ship. She has not changed. That's what I'm saying. You get on

your album. Let me tell you something. I'm gonna tell you when you can't get on y'all. When if she starts smoking combs and joins and like the bombs, the fact that she's smore blunts more, I'll tell you. I'll be looking at the Instagram. I'll be that I'm looking like that's nothing to joint. That's all blood. You get on, y'all, y'all. I'm telling you a lot of different path right now. I'm doing a lot of comedy ship shout to Dave Chappelle, shout to Michael J. Michelle Wolf More amour with at

the Comedy Seller in New York at all times. That's fun all the time. If I'm in New York, you can come to the Comedy Seller just any date. You They don't even know day every week. You gotta just looking up every week every week. Okay, but listen, please, if you're take nothing away, man, go on your computer,

on your phone, look up Carting out of Fishhall. See all the crazy ship he's done, man, Maccardi slang and and uh every time killing you doesn't walk around walk around Toronto with him, and the amount of fucking respect and love he gets is crazy. It's fucking crazy man. It's like he's literally a hometown hero. And anybody that can get that much love in their city, you should know who they are. He's a living, live nipsey hustle, right, because you know, we need to start doing that while

they are alive. Yeah, we'll appreciated this expected and I got specially love him because Fife put me on the him card. Yeah he said that. When you look. Yeah, listen, we're gonna do a drop a couple of pitches and Yo.

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