Episode 185 w/ CeeLo Green

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This is going down man now again. I say this to my partner all the time because when we started the show, we said we wanted a cover of legends. We wanted to cover people who've been out here sacrificing, putting the culture first, putting the culture on their back. When used to think of this man, he's a part of one of the most legendary families in the hip I land, part of one of the most legendary groups of hip hop. He got about three different careers is amazing,

you know what I mean. I think it's more he might be he's like seven. He might be seven. Um, but you just look at all the diversity he has done. You look at how he's he's out here relevant in so many different worlds, from touring for with Lightning Ritchie to you know what I'm saying, to recording with DJ College the other day. When I was there, I actually got the witness. If you don't know what the funk

I'm talking about, we're talking about the legendary. Now. We want to take it from the beginning because you, um, you guys are part of the rich history of the South. You know I'm saying not only just ANTL. I want to I want to broaden the view because at first I was coming from New York. Um, we looked at the South and really like Miami at the forefront because of you know you guys, and like Uncle Luke was doing. So let's take it from the beginning. How how did

you get started? Just in the music period, it's a good mob before Dungeon family or Dungeon family, then Goody Mob. Yeah, um, initially we we we considered everyone in the Goody Moody was it was a street name, um uh from yeah, I knowld you from our neighborhood. His name is Big Glynn. We call him Big Duddy. He was the one that coined that the name Goody Mob. So it was a crew.

Uh Coojo was a part of that crew. So what they would do was, you know, put their goods in the um the Crown Royal bags, a little purple bag that was like they flavored what of them? And you know what I'm saying. So it was you know, you know, it was like goodie bags. So they call him up to pepon Goody Mob. So I got got, so, I got, I gotta credit them, and I'm saying like as the

original of the name, you know. And then that that eventually evolved over into uh the art the art form you know, um of where Cool Joe and Timo from Goody Mob. They began as a as a local group called the Numberjacks, you know what I'm saying, and the gift Big gilt Uh. He was a part of another crew called the East Point Train Gang, including uh Cool Breeze. So Cool Breeze is a gentleman that coin the friends

Dirty South you know, what I'm saying. So when you when you look for anybody, for anybody is the first one. So when you when you when you look at history of you, if you go back, Uh, that Soul Food album, it was kind of broken up into into into working parts. Uh Lumberjacks could not put any of their prior recorded music on that album because they were going through the

gations with former management. I was a solo artist, uh you know, singer, you know, uh sucking you know, you know mc all of that, you know what I'm saying, And um so uh so excuse was kind of really

a collective. It was collective. It was a collective so like it was, it was such a strong entity and a strong presence of namesake in the city that you know what I mean, Like it was natural for everybody to kind of assume it, you know, mean like because of the association, you know what I'm saying, Um, you know, and everybody was kind of coming from different places, you know what I mean. Andre and Twine, like you know,

Antoine is is Big Boy's real name. You know, we went to let me, let me try, let me try to just pace myself. I'm excited to be yeah, because I don't know if you smoked it back like that. Yeah, I hope you don't have to get some of that. How you of that because you don't, Um, that's something

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But listen, where were we that? Okay, so let's go back okay, um, so wait so really quick just from my knowledge because I'm a big fan of everything y'all done, so goody Morvis. Before Dungeon Family all happened at the same time. It was all happening at the same time. Uh almost you know, pretty much simultaneously, you know what I mean, like overanized noise. Rico Wade, Sleepy Brown, Ray Murray, Uh, Sleepy Brown and and Rico Wade were part of a

dance troupe called Guests. See back then, Um, the sensation in the city was talent shows. You know what I'm saying that it was. It was really like real old school. This was before gun play and all of that. So it was talent shows and it was and it was rival high schools and big cart fights. So we went to May's high bench when he made his high school and I would rival high school was was Douglass High Fresher Duglas High. So like you know, after the football

game or whatever. It saying like it would be like the movie outside Us. So like a real real old fashional round boat type ship. So they went from that. From so Rico Wait and Sleeper Brown they were they were they were like you know, neighborhood that get old superstar for being dancers. And then they eventually, you know, like one of your production I actually got one of the original Dungeon families first, you know, uh kawan, I'm saying, getto Vision, Discovered tea, all of that, you know what

I'm saying. But anyway, it's so much to the story. The Dungeon family house, right the house a legendary house. Is that where all the music started from because the big big boy just buying that house or something like that. Big Budget's recently purchased the house and it's it's being completely overdone and renovated. And you know, we were kind of like in the talks with another little upstart company that's doing it's called Hip Hop Tools of Atlanta. I'm

not sure. I'm not sure that the business is gonna work out, but they were doing tours, you know, so just trying to keep it like like monuments. Doesn't anybody he was going to try to up as a monument talking about our coming like the king there or something like, Yeah, I didn't even think of that, that's all. So so I'm gonna trying. I'm gonna try to fast forward, trying to make it actually make it actually I'm ass up because what I really meant was was organized noise before God,

That's really what I meant. The organized noise of the producer production comes from the production crew. Okay, people knew them, but there was it's because they were dancers. They were part of a dance group called guess you know what I'm saying. So there was like they were like damn, it was like you know what I mean. So there was dancers and that was the thing, you know what I mean, Like if you could dance, you could dress, and you can fight. That was even more play sports

or whatever. Let me bounce around for a little bit. So what something kind of listic playlistic comes out. That was that like the first gym with like now now the South is being viewed or it still was like hard after that because like explained like for us queens was having a hard time right, But where NAS came out with Allmatic for those couple of years, it was like it was cool because people it's like you pulled

our something me from being from Miami. Like we had this thing where we wanted to represent ourselves lyrically out of Miami hip hop ship. So we had like an artists named Mother Superio. She got shoved by Alan music had different artists and we could never really represent ourselves lyrically, and I felt like outcast. That album was that for for Atlanta? I mean, that's what it looked like to me. But see we there was the time with the Atlanta what they called Atlanta a little Miami, you know what

I'm saying. So with the MC shot is the Groucci cruise hold that we had that synergy between each other, you know what I mean, like so we we you know, even I didn't even do it, yeah, you know, just for Ricky still have so I think, like we we're not gonna be midway point, you know, literally between Florida the bottom of it, you know, and we called the bottom, right I'm saying. So we had we we were, we

had both of the influences. You know what I'm saying That it's a trip how comes back around full circle because you know what what was electro pop or whatever whatever it was considered? What when African ban body and soul? So the force did it basically ultimately we called it skating rink music, you know what, like and then it

ultimately evolved into Miami. Bas So it's kind of really all of the same, you know what I'm saying, like, but lyrically, you know, we we were I mean obviously man like you know, affected and inspired by by East Coast and in raw boom back East Coast hip hop, and what I'm saying so lyrically, I'm glad that you said that because we I know I'm speaking for myself, but I think a lot of us really felt like our first wants to truly represent lyrically was either eight

Ball and m j G out of Memphis and Poison Clan like yes, yes yourself before Devin Air, Devin and J Money, and then we did a group called Home Team as well. Boy. Yeah, so they came out before Outcast, Yeah damn at the same time, what year is that they're fighters? Where we one? I think you're before that, you know I'm talking about like on mggcast four okay, Letting four okay and Egg okay, damn bro always there.

I came up the same time. So you say, okay, all right, because for me, that that's what I looked at when I seen that that I and even it was crazy, but I was even seeing that pup that he directed that first Outcast video. I don't even know wa man, Yeah back, what did he go? Yeah? The first outcast video ever like produced ever. Yeah, that was I was about who Puffy directed players ball? Yeah, guy, you lived. You're not I kid, You're not like you.

I forget. It's a document that's on the face. Rights that's on the face. It was the face that it was. It was mentioned on the Oganized Modest documentary The Art of Obanized nowers on Netflix. Watch. It was an amazing

to catch that. Yeah, cardy brain because the history on their but it's it's nowhere near the whole story though, so like I mean, there's very few people in this rat game that have so many like oh like like like elements to them, Like when it comes to the crew, like you guys gotta kill them, Mike, you guys got sucking you guys, it's so many. It's like the would tang on the side. It's just about to say that,

I was about to say that, but it's you. I don't want to see the woul tang because because we'll take is just nine. What do they call him when it's all on the number, Who help me? Separate elements? Feel like it's killing a man brain, It's like the same to me, that's what they were. Dudgeon family was that to us in the South? To me, how does it take them as a compliment? Didn't you say did you know that everyone would would essentially be stars when

your guys was coming up or not necessarily? Um? I felt that, Um, as far as that Nana was concerned, we were the most um authentic you know what I mean, incredible with that that first offer in Southern playlists contact music without cares, I mean, because you know the you know, and this is not to discredit those who came before us where they to be criss cross the rest of

development of Brad you know what I mean? Like shot all right, I'm saying you feel me like it's all relative and I'm saying like, um, but as far as row rap and lyricism, you know what I mean, and just showing that that that range, you know, you know we would we would have first know what I'm saying. I felt like it was like the cold question brothers like the South, you know, girls bounce around the little bit. Now.

I think last year or the year before, I'm not sure you had a video that went viral like that. He was on the phone right, and everyone was like, what the fun is going home? Studio? He was calling you. I had six different numbers on you. Everyone. It didn't work, Like everyone like what exactly happened to the people that

that that didn't see your explanation? All right? I was I was working on an independent project and it was meant to be kind of like a mix tape or an EP, you know, kind of kind of kind of thing of where it was to be held held over until we could finish the novels Rockley Record, because we was having schedule of differences. So I called it Gnarlie Davidson, right, So it was a part of it. And I said, okay, um, around the time, it was the Samsung phones and that

was a real thing. It was a real issue with people, right, but it was a current event. So I said, okay, let me try to pull from that. And it's like, how do how do these superhero it has come about, you know, by with some type of trauma, something traumatic happens. What I mean, like you know, you know, you get hit with a Gamma ray, you get big bout spite

or whatever happened. And I'm saying so like I'm like, all right, so let's use this real life thing and make and make the video where it's believable for that, for that that have a long we can catch it out and then dropped and dropped the project because because they played out of order. What when I was sending it to the special effects people's we was going through passes, okay, like turn the smoke up on this, so like that,

blah blah blah blah blah. We was just kind of color correcting and all that kind of stuff, and one of them leaked, like in one of the emails leak, so you know, um, some some blogs and HTM got hold to it and to like and blast it off with it. So initially because it's meant that I'm thinking I'm doing something, it's a stunt out of just I'm thinking it's gonna be funny to people. I'm thinking they're gonna know what's ridiculous. Is going like okay, great, but no,

no people will. So you gotta understand, bro, it's a difference between hearing something happened to your people, see right, So with that, man, it was funny for the first little while, but my phone was only like so I got I got a phone calls from everybody from ice Cube to the Minnster Lowis Fradka was Sam something worried because that's for everybody. Anybody's like to get the right now, like like oh yeah, that's man. Then want nothing to do something like you said, it wasn't all pH So

that's what happened, man. So that was Christmas time, uh that whatever year that was, I think it was like a year or so ago. And then the Grammys didn't play out until that following February. So what it was meant to do was to hit the Friday of the Grammys, you know what, Like I go to the red carpet and boom. I don't know if you saw the other stunt I did where I went and I crashed the like I got transforming from other work. But can I tell your a dopes some dope about that. The whole thing.

It didn't work out because, like you know what, the time elapsed to me, like and people just really didn't take too well to being you know, you know, like along in that kind of way, like people really And the funny thing about it is I got a chance to see how much love I had out That's for sure what I'm saying but the project didn't work. What I'm saying, like, you know, but what was dope about it? The research was so you know what I mean, it works so well, you know as far as coverage. Um

nor the only one who ain't seeing it. I got that that it works so well with as far as coverage. Marvel Comics reached out to me and we said, we said down with it. Yeah, we sat down with their with their JV division, and we had to create off of that character. They wanted to make it an official Marvel comic. If the ship had if the deal had it went right, I would have been on endgame. You know what I'm saying. But I'll tell you what happened. It would have been your name the world that the

name of it was Narlie Davidson. All right, but you know, you gotta think Marvel, you gotta take Disney, you gotta think Harley Davidson. Nobody would have been that. They probably would have had to revive the name. You know what I'm saying, um, But you know what they were saying, was they I a hero. I want to be smoke

a lot. Yeah, smoke smoke villages. I saw me throw up soft crowds and smoking ball smoking you might be coust baby came it was made out of It's made out of burning weed and ship you know what like like like you know how like like a smoke beat you too? Whatever he got smoke a lot. He got spoke a lot was the wrapper. He wasn't a superhero in half bag. But I'm gonna be think like like I'm gonna just walk in. It's gonna be and then like my cake gonna you burning like people want big

them on fire all the time. I'm but it's just I'm sorry, but that's crazy that you could have been. But what they were saying was it would have been historic because it would have been the first of where a character was based on a real living beings. But the trick to that is living beings, you know, prone to liability. And know what I'm saying, you people so like you know, they you know it's not infoliable, so they couldn't do They don't want to risk it. You

like the mcgallo. I've just been seeing the mcgallowa dogs. But not to be totally honest, I'm a little I'm a little ignorant and wouldn't actually on the origin of a where it comes from? Yea, I would have been seen in the last few years. It's like Holliway party for the yeah yeah. But because I love to see people, you know what I'm saying, like be fly and the individuals and and you know, like you know fashion of course is it's a fashion that the art so y'all know.

I like when a wild ship too, So like I'd like to see people do their thing? How did you develop that? That's what that's my next question is because when you look at the origin from me where you outcast Goody move Dungeon family in general, guys are from the hood. You guys are from them the deep deeps out guys from them. What you guys have the ability to make music that brings you to these other genres and you're able to to mix with those other crowds.

Like you know what I'm saying, like, how did you develop that? Well? To be totally honest, man, like the my my my personal taste. The first thing I ever loved was rock and roll and heavy metal. That's you know same here. I I love rocking roll. I talked about it on drink Chairs before, like Iron made it and coming out, coming out, coming out. I'm glad you started with Iron Maiding because Bruce Jakerson is one of my favorite ARTI sakers favorite front Bruce Jakinson, Ronnie James Deal,

you know, um Rob Halford from Judas Priest. Yeah, we met, We got the same management. I'm friends with all my rock but hip hop tris to be scared to talk about this. I don't know. I like pet Floyd, Yeah, of course that's funny. Man. I got a friend of mine who was at the sono with me in the building and he showed me a clipper when he was sound checking. I don't know how he got this access, but David Gilmore, you know, was sound checking and he was playing crazy. I'm saying, so I I just got

to do that. I played for you after to answer your question, you know what I mean. Like GiB had a good answer to Like. Another thing that was big for us when we was kids in Atlanta was wrestling, so like you know, um, like it's a couple of um. I love the Road Warriors, the British Bulldogs or Road Warrior, Ultimate Warrior, Groldwards, it was Animal and Hulk. Okay, you know what I'm saying. So what I'm rick play of course.

So what I'm basically saying is that costume in that pageant tree like I mean like it was kind of normal, you know what I'm saying. And then you know, um, but and then me on the soulfa side, big band side, earth Win didn't fire, not liking those people put so

much into the presentation, you know what I'm saying. So, um, I thought that that was you know that I felt like that was a standard and I mean like you know, like you know what I'm saying, um, and when you speak to you in such a way, I felt like it belonged to me in order to kind of you know, carry you on a tradition and you know, as an artist. Right. So then George Clinton christened us the Young Parliament Fadulic. So that's really the bottom line. He was like yo,

y'all of us. I mean like he acidly just like everything A lot of drugs. That's kind of super am I saying that? Right? I think you so that, like I want to say at all, I mean because I was looking at your line and I and people was like, oh ship about them, Like Nick, It's like, yo, a bunch of dope questions. I said, Damn, I want to make sure I know. One of the eldest questions that people keep asking was how did it feel to be

a singer in the group? And then then another question and asked was wrapping wise, did you feel you as better than I don't know why, but that Cressy came up so much like like like I would imagine competition wise, you guys are truing teas you would feel you're better than the next one. To be totally honest, I felt like we were. We we also called ourselves the x men and I mean so allectively. Yeah, we we did. We did a g Q photo spread as the x men um. And that's to say that everybody is signified

by their own special and unique power. Now I made up some ship. I was whoever it was like, you know, but I was powerful now but now so like it wasn't that kind of competition. We felt like we were we were supporting each other, like you know what I mean, Like it was a real family vibe. Me and dre Go all the way back to the third grade. Man, like we are a lot of us, A few of us know each other longer, like that's probably one of the longer relationships in the entire Dunge family. But then again,

I grew with Timo. He's a little bit of us, strewed over from me, and I'm saying, like he's three years older than me. But you know, he graduated with my sister Saw. I had always seen him, you know, all my whole life, you know, but no, man like, it was never that kind of competition. But you know, I will say this for the record, killing Mike if we mentioned him, and he's a he's a a real grand I'm seeing my opinion and I'm saying that you're

feeling a lot of people's opinions. Great person over all around. But um he said in the g Q interview that he thought I was the best side of the Dungeon family. Did you know that, KP. Yeah, he said that. So that's saim we have probably at the end of you asked him. But I never thought like that. I just when I think about family, when I think about crew, I just come to play my position, you know what I'm saying, Like you played to my strength, you know what I mean. Like, so I'm just going to be

a soldier for it. That's it. So the second part of the question they asked this was the most question, is how did it feel to be like a singer like slash R and B or Arts. But I asking this because it was the most repeated I know that you're motherfucking r care mother. Yeah, I think that's well, I know, I just wanted I mean, it was the most asked question. I actually literally looked at all my garments, so I just gotta ask it. How did it feel

to be a singer in the Cruel MCS? Yeah, I wasn't MC and the Crewe MCS, you know, so they just got to go back and do the history obviously, you know, but I think it's I think it's kind of like, you know what, you would have realized that that everybody's got metal, everybody could sing like dre ended up, you know, spreading his wings and a lot of the times when we performed like you know, let Mena tell you something like I've been That's been a part of

my repertoire from the beginning, like even from UTFO, you know, forcing D's you know what I mean, dude, she was kidding you my body, so you know you got how you got them? High school Sweetheart songs like it was a song by ut Phone called Fairytale Level yea that record man, Yeah, you know so it was that kind of stuff. It was new edition. It was all so like a girl that I swei, you know what I'm saying. I still think I'm realized, you know what I'm saying.

But now like so all of that, I'm referencing all that to say, it's all just you know, uh and acknowledgement. I'm saying, you feel me. I just say, man like if you got if you got an you man, just do what you can. I'm saying, you feel me. Um, you know so I felt I felt very natural thought you know what I'm saying, because I asked how people do it so well? And so you know so um far before me. Scott recently sampled you right travel Scott in the Travis E. Sample sell Therapy, one of the

craziest records ever, super classic and hip hop. You're just about to say something. You know, this is a thing like I feel like and I don't think that you can relate to this being from you excub me all the time, like coming out of the South and trying to do the lyrical route. Did you, because this is the thing that always rings to me is when Outcast was at the source of awards saying what they said about the South, the South has something set right? Did

you y'all come with that? Like when y'all were in the studio, were all thinking about like we're gonna represent lyrically or was it as natural? Like what was it? What was the mind frame y'all in the booth? I think naturally, when you're a fan, you kind of liking yourself to your favorite you know what I mean, like and you kind of you kind of grow up. I mean like you know, or you or you you you live like obiously through you know, you know I mean

like you trained spark. Let mean, like you know, like what you're listening Palette, you know, I mean, if you will, so you know, we was just taught by the best, you know what I'm saying, Like, you know my you know, my favorite see of all time is Mellie mel You know what I'm saying. His rhyme at the end of the Street is the best rhyme ever written in history and Mellie Mell beating Nigga asked, that's what I'm saying.

Gangsters like we need on the podcast let me it's in the middle of the Bronx man life with spikes on another I wasn't that just spoke to me, you know, that's that's something that that in hip hoply. You know, the last couple of years, a lot of the artists been dressing like, you know, a little weird. And I've removing myself from comment in because I remember those days Mellie mel and these guys with the spikes and you know what I'm saying type chokers like I feel like outcast.

And Andre specifically, I was doing that and he I remember it was an interview I don't know somewhere where he said, I'm just mimicking. Uh, he say, wants to look like the music. Yeah, yeah, exactly. That makes sense man. You know, um, I don't know. It's it's it's entertainment man. It's just really like all for fun. Like I said, if you gotta na man, you definitely should go for it,

you know. I mean, like I I didn't think it would have spoke to me in that way if if it didn't feel natural to me like I mean, like it would it would have never spoke to me. But you say, it's entertained. But Goody Mob's material was very serious about like, yeah, we're talking to things that today on Donald Trump's eerra we could relate back to to

that album. No, you're right, You're right, so first album. Yeah, definitely, Like because I was about to say that, you know, as a crew, as a large collective, we and and coming from what we were coming from, feeling the biased you know what I'm saying. Uh, you know I've said this on a number of occasions too, of where we wanted to distinguish the difference between being Southern and being country.

You know, like we took country is condescending, you know what I'm saying, Like, so like it was, but in terms of social politics as well, I mean like we felt like we wanted to be counted. We felt like we were fighting for the civil rights of southern hip hop as well. That's why the narrative was what it was. But you know, we but the fashion statement is to to flaut them sling, like you know what I mean, Like, uh, you know, it's almost it's like it's a dad if

you will. I mean, I like to consider it is that because like you know, like you know, we were hands on as well. All of that you feel me, So let's describe, Um, you're part of goody Mall. It's uh, guys are because I don't know. There's so many shows where people they want to give people their flowers after they they can't smother. We want to give all people. There should be no way shapeful fashion. And I can't tell you how much I appreciate you to your face.

Thank you. Bro. Let's say, bro, we're a fan. We'd be a fan of youth at all. Seventeen of your career is like at Jamaican we are we are part of you. We we support you whether you're there or you're not. When you're not around, we speak about you highly and we want you to know to your face that you're a legend. We meet so much to hip hop and we want to tell you to your face. I just saw a little it's that water bella rock, you know what I'm saying. At So I gonna immediately

want another one. I'm just gonna throw it. You didn't relax immediately want another, so it goes down. It did definitely did hit me a little bit later. Okay, So it comes to time where you're saying not leave GOODIEMM, but you want to step outside. I think you're always good him mob though it's y'all can do your different things, but you always good h mob. Man. We we just

got off to right. Yeah, we've been to You can describe that moment when you like, because it comes to time when you have to step out on your own and you and obviously you wanted to do that. Obviously the music industry pulled you towards doing that, So so can we describe that moment for the people that don't know. Yeah, we was gonna we was just having um, sorry to cut you off because people from New York we started looked at that and see you by yourself at times

like oh we thought of a describancy. We thought it was something that happened, you know what I'm saying. So I probably I'm gonna cut you off as a precursor. I feel like you what you did with Nols Barkley is a precursor to Run the Jewels and everything that came after that. Agree, And so sorry, um no, um, let's see kind of can I recall it like it was just a real simple, uh difference of professional opinion.

And I'm saying like and and musical taste at that point after we had you know, been very fortunate to have three consecutive gold records, you know, just like you know the last one. You know, we were really at all it's been creatively, you know what I'm saying. And you know, I was just kind of getting you know, a little you know, impatient. I think, you know, I'm saying, you feel me like I felt like I had something else that I was capable of, and I mean like,

but I needed to commit to it. I needed an opportunity to and I needed to support dooring. So you know what I'm saying, that's what I expected. I didn't realize that that, you know, like it would you know, be any kind of discord and I'm sort of disconnect. I just thought it would be a testament to our elasticity, show how far we could stretch. It's a big word with the Bok saying at least I've got to use that. I don't even know what it means, but I'm no elasticity.

I'm gonna show I won't get somebody because I lasted. But so I'm basically saying that to say it really wasn't sufference like you know what I mean, Like it was just stretched, you know what I mean? And and then then you have to see the album, so absolutely, and then you know there's growing pain you feel me? Now, was there like discripancies on that, like because when you did this so album wasn't still on the face or

was it? Yeah, what happened on the on the paper side, on the label side, Um yeah we me and get paid both gotten solo deals with the face. Yeah. Well actually as a matter of fact, it was when l A read What's Up shout out to the Gulf for the l all on Um, I think he was just making that that that transition over to ANSTA. So you know, norm of Jackson was coming more from the grid, so which is cool. Join Timo and they wanted to do independently,

so that was their decision. Hey we just want to go independent, you know, Um, you know, gives a motherfucking rock star and know what I'm saying, like you know, and um, you know he they he definitely had a shot because if you think about it, black, I just want to buy a bigger single like without without Dre and being on it. It's a it's a gift solo song. My soul was dirty South without cool breeze on it.

So everybody was always geared up for Gift to be you know, like you know, like you know, like a big star, big deal you feel me and represent the Dungeon. So with that, I mean like he got a solo shot. You know, I think I was the last to really kind of blossom at least. But I'm just I don't know, I'm I'm modest in that. But but but did you like?

Because you know, because sometimes you know, when you go do that, you know that other move and it's successful for you, you look as if you like this your brother?

Are you leaving it? Like? Did you ever like? Because because a lot of people, like for instance, with me, a lot of people didn't realize Capon was locked up when I started my solo thing, So there was so many rumors saying, oh, you know, Nori went and he did because so many people didn't have Internet, people didn't identify that my partner was literally in jail, so to the masses, it looked like people in the area. And then I got greedy and then I went on home.

Did you ever see I went through it big time? You know what I'm saying? But um, it was really all agreeable. Let me like, you know, like initially you know what I'm saying, But then the reality does set in and you get you know, to a point of where you're supplying to the man. You can't be two places at one time, you know what I'm saying. So

scheduling was conflicting. I'm saying like we were having some success, you know, and we would have some having some defaulted, you know what I mean, like you know kind of you know, you know, ill ill kind of energy and I mean like you know, and it was just something that circumstantial. I don't think it was intentional on nobody part. I'm saying, you feel me, But yeah, we went through it. We went through it definitely, you know. And I mean I went on to to to you know, to share

in the success. What I'm saying, you feel me like you know what I mean, Like when I was doing a whole different crowd, like, yeah, the Danger Amounts project, Like how does that happen? Does that happened? It's just people are saving PEP we're talking about I was gonna see those first. People don't know that Danger Mouse is from Atlanta, Okay, I didn't even know, yeah, And I'm saying, like people thought that he was some kids I found overseas or something like that, you know, but that wasn't

the case. And I mean, like you know, we did we bumped into each other. If this is I'm trying to make this story short, you know. So look, we was doing we don't mind, because we was doing the outcast video showing you g a you know, in Athens, Georgia. So um, it was pouring down and I remember this day and he had on a hoodie and he gave me a CD. The CD was called Pelican City, and I'm just referencing it so people can go back and

do the knowledge, you know, then check it out. When I'm saying, you feel me so, but I really didn't pay any attention. There was another homeboy in my name, Trick from Appens, whose you know, parents had done well. He's this oil kid. He wanted to get into you know, uh promoting, uh, you know, the hip hop shows. That was his first show. And so he brought me back down to actors and he actually reintroduced me to Danger.

So Danger was working on another project with a kid named Jim and I called Dames Mess and Jim and I. So he said, look, we got in the studio one day. He said, yeah, um, do do I want you to do on you know, on this remix for us? So I did the remix and we did the sessions, like all right. He said like, yo, do you mind if I play you a couple of things? And I was like cool. So he played me some. He played me this ill ship. So he goes on to play all this ill ship that you know, um that big ends

up becoming sant Uso. But I was just taken by it and spoke to me in a real way and I was like, oh shoot, I said this is I said, this is different. I said, like, yo, I want to use a couple of days let me do you know, then years later I will find out in an interview that we're having that. He said that he was bluffing me. But what he told me was he said, well I don't normally do you know, just you know, track I do albums. You know That's what he said. I said, motherfucker,

let's do an album. You know what I'm saying Like that, That's where it came from. So you know, we just went in the pocket. So it was completely independent. This record crazy just great. I would say Crazy was independent, was independent, but Atlanta right, crazy was independent. Get the funk out of here. That's what I'm gonna tell you quick. It went to Atlanta, right eventually Atlantic, Atlanta, Atlanta, Atlantic? What are you drinking? Atlanta? But I'm gonna tell you

what a good yea before you go. It was Atlantic. It's absolutely before my drunkenness. So I went to Sam Crestal's office one day. I was saying, park in the bed on the board. They had records that they were promoting, and it was Nag's barking was like, oh, Ship, and that's how I knew it was. This is already upstream, and I'm like, this is crazy. It's gonna be a crazy record. Okay. First of all, I'm dyslexic, so this is Janal Parkley or no. But that genus signal yournal

you're covering listen, and that g is solid. It's just gnarls like atsu it could be for you, jennaral Best. I'm just texting, I see ship different. You ain't telling me all these years, I see a g if yous all these years, I think it's I was serious right now yeah, definitely ain't jump to anybody texts each other to do text and I was let involved. You know, Park is another group from twe okay, ba back Okay.

So now how like, like you said, I'd like to do what you said to run the Jews thing, because the thing about it was it frum to a totally different audience, right although Outcast was was a different audience as well. How different was this audience when when when we did the halls Barley right, man, you like, I don't know, I'm sorry, okay, So how different was that? It was super different? Man? Um we got in and about four out of the six or seven things that

he played end up making the album. So he came to Atlanta. Um, he had done this this mixtape called um uh the White Album, I mean the great jay Z collaborations drunk shirts that the Beatles and jay Z mixed together. So he killed he just he just gave me one because they were and they ha't even become a sensation at that point. So I don't really know what the makeup and but it was dope when I heard but the when she just blew up right, So at this time I wasn't I was displaced almost even

know no label. I mean, like you know, um, And at this time I wrote and produced Don't You at the same time too, don't You for the Pussycat Dolls. Did you know that? I'm sorry, I'm just counting your money. See as that was that was that was dope. That was dope, right, So the stars just aligned. So well, man like this fucking Then he said, I got a week. He said, I gotta go out to Iceland with Damon Alburns from the Gorillas and work on this new record.

I'm gonna I'm gonna bring it all down. So he'said, I got a weak Let's just try something. Let's get in, he said. But yeoh, but first you're talking to me. I'm not gonna lie. As soon as he said Iceland and immediately got cold, he said, yo, he said, UM, I know you. Of course I thank you. I'm saying like you know, um, I like most of the your music that you do. Most this ain't talking you know what,

this sow the good, it's all it's dope. I like most of your music, he said, But I noticed see your music that there's a thing that runs throughout it, and you seem to one of you know, trying to do It's a lot of good, he said, you have a lot of good things to say, but always positive. He's said, he's get that. I like that, he said, but I figure anybody's got that much, you know, has got that much it is trying to do that much good.

This guy has done an equal amount of bad. He said, that's what I want to hear and know what I'm saying. And I was like, oh, ship and he did no. So like basically the making ood story, I spans on that ship. I spans on it, you know what I mean, like the music that spoke to me that kind of way. So anyway, the first record you have a quarter is crazy. We did about We did about five or six whole albums a classic and you know, nobody so praise he has done in just one take. We just demo on it.

But what two he is? That is it would be considered a demo, but we just flew that way because he got leaked hold time trying to be modest. No I'm serious, I'm come brack for you. But just say you recording that in one tape? Yeah? About down? Alright, alright, alright, you know what you know what for the last couple of episodes, we've been doing the watermelon because the types of being girls, right, we had and don't blame it on the girls. Yeah, I didn't want to give it.

Angie Martina is a type. Yeah. Man, the new bottle of tack ball. Yeah, it's not there, all right, So what are we gonna do it? All right? You gotta know for gotten for us right now asking the question man, question, man, I want to salute you right now. What question you answering? I'm sorry, you know, we just said that, um, he was tripping off. It was just independent. No, that was crazy.

The one take is he was one and and and the independent is both blown me my river because people asked us after the fact that said that, John know crazy was gonna end up you know what it becoming what it us? He was like, No, he's the only thing I knew as the producer was it sounded more like a single than anything else that we had done prior. So you knew that was a single when you did the record. That's what he was saying. He just said

it sounded like a single. You know, he didn't really that, Yeah, that's what he was telling The interview This was after the fact. But did you know that? No, I didn't. You didn't think so no, wow, we just you know, I shot to shot extent that we're just busting off shots. Just shot busting off shot. This is uh. I'm gonna fully warn you relaxed. But you didn't. You gave me way too much. No, No, it's okay. You give me some more. Yeah, ain't even more. That's where we had

that first about it. The first time was cool. You are just type a ball. Yeah, you know this is age in my garage. Joe's around antient Cuman secret. Okay, once again, sure, this is to your career. So I hate that ship. That's good too. It was not that bad. It's it's not good man, I like it. Don't stop it. Don't perpetuate the lie. He's a drinking It's not a drink any man. Just you know, I see him drink patron and just stand like I was, like, there's no symptoms,

it's normal. Fact. You know what he thoughties like that too. Yeah, that's what we voted the k okay so um anyway, when you said how you got on that land chick okay, this ship the record leaks it goes bananas. You know what I'm saying. Oh, you didn't plan on dropping an independent, elite elite. Oh that's that's a big difference. So look then it goes um It's the first record to go number one by digital downloads at that time. You feel me. So the ship was number one several weeks before we

did a deal. It was another SoundCloud rappers. It's cool to you I had something that actually, this is a crazy kind of considered this one of the first viral records. This viral I'm not gonna lie to The impact was so big that always thought it was amazing from the beginning. So you me hearing you say this blowing my mind. Got this record has gotta get us World record man for being played on more radio formaicine any other song

in history crazy was played on talk radio. This is one more man like you know, like, oh hey, I'm somewhere you know, j give you gets some fun. Atlantic actually turned down turned down the originally for us in Let's Coupe turned us down. A couple of people turned it down. Then we ended up getting distribution through through a general by the name of Josh Josh Deutsch who

was starting another independent record called Downtown, which had Santigo. Yeah, it's just amazing label in that little shot and every amount of time. But he ended up getting his distribution

through Atlantic, and that's how Atlantic came about. And let me explain really quickly, like as a DJ, already had the record because he bootlegses ship, but I had a marketing I have a marketing company, and I was working Atlantic and Sam Crastpo, which I've known, and I went to the label and I was so happy to see the record I already was working with on the board. It was on the board Atlantic. And did you first get ahold too? By way the league to I had

the white label, right, okay, yeah that's the leak. Yeah yeah, my company is everything crazy, Like my company's crazy and productions and crazy everything. We're talking about your record to us, that is a fact. Now it's just like, I mean, the ship is dope to look back on him, just like wow, what I mean, like I can't really have no field kind of well, but I'm blessed and I'm fortunate, man. But you know that it wasn't. It wasn't. It wasn't

by my design, not necessarily. Now recently big Boy performed in the Super Bowl, just talked about it, and you you you like the friend you are, you stepped up, you defended them because of everything that was going on. Then you see some backlash. Yeah, so what what what was that? Like? Explain and your point of view? What was your meaning? Well, the ship got so out of him, man, I ended up doing a formal apology on TMZ. But

what the post was? You know, you know, Big was getting a lot of backlash tonight for for supporting the Super Bowl. You know what I'm saying, You know, I know, I know how it is to be under the gun. I'm saying, like I know the pressure. And then you know what I'm saying, he was doing it, you know, as an individual artist and something like you know which is which is a feat? You know what I'm saying. In his hometown, a lot of people don't know what's

going on. Like I mean, like Adam and Big are really good friends and business partners from from from five. It was it was his pleasure. And I'm saying, like, you know, you know too allow. You know what I'm saying, like you I mean like us to be represented and I mean, like you know, like somebody from the city should have represented in that in that time slot, one of the most called six minutes of six minutes time. Motherfucker's say, right, you know what I'm saying, So like

he got to do that. So anyway, um, just as a friend, I'm like, damn, I'm feeling his pressure. But then I'm feeling encouraged, you know what i mean, Like, you know, because I'm looking at him, like when I see him, I see me, I see us, and I'm like, damn, you know what I'm saying, and me like this is this is super relevant, you know. I mean, like we were right in the eye of the storm, and I

was like letting him know. I needed to let him know in a real public you know, like wait, and I'm saying like that I loved him and I supported him, and like and like, don't crumble under the pressure, you know what I'm saying, Like, because I know there's something like a part of the talent is making it look easy as it does. Like you know, ship she could that she could be she could be demanding. You don't say you feel me taxing, you know what I'm saying.

So that's what it was, and that's that's why it's a tone that come along with my explanation because that's how I felt. But the light side of it is we wash motherfucking taco mac in Atlanta, a little a little joint that's got the dope chicken wings and a little figuring of ball foods, and we're watching the game. You know, I'm drinking some blue moons. We having fun on with my wife. We having fun. You know what I'm saying. You know what I mean. It's up Queen Shaney.

Al right, So and I just do it. And I'm saying, like, like, yo, big do that ship you a little baby? You look you look beautiful. Baby. Fuck these protesters and what I said, these so called protesters, you know what I'm saying. So you know they took it in a whole difference. Dad, I'm like, Yo, you gotta know that it's it does nothing have nothing to do with my Twitter is policeity. I know that's not what you mean. I know I

knew exactly. And sometimes when I say things, I'm thinking people knowing me from all of the history and all of the what we put in. But then take I think I apply sometimes I think you underestimate your celebrity, Like meaning meaning like you're so much bigger than like it's just like just even seeing you and U a DJ college house and you literally came in. Remember, I know, I can't say I can't I'm dyslexic. Man, I'm just

riding the way. I'm just but but you like by yourself, like you know what I'm saying, and most people will ever be caught like that. You know what I'm saying, and that's honorable. Yeah, but it's also like some times in certain situations it's a little crazy, little crazy to be by itself. But technically with neighborside really felt like I'm just coming down the streets. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, you know, I'm just saying. I'm just saying that. What

I'm saying related to the Twitter thing. Sometimes you probably you know, tweeting and you're speaking to your eight you know, your your your version of people, but there's so many people that follow you or so many people that's that's just you know, yeah, it's it's fucking crazy. It's super sensitive. But I was able to rectify and saying I can show somebody on that man, like it's not truly meant

no harm. It was just it was just you know, drunken love and supportment for which is which is absolutely correct because we live in an assensitive moment, like we live in the times where comedians have to be like so fucking cautious, like I don't what they're saying at

the time. Correctness because if you look at if you look at hip hop, you look at all the fucking bad ship there you go back from back in the days terrible holy moly moly, Like we're all like, we're all like if you're going to look at every fucking lyric like it's terrible, Like it's terrible. Like people saying to me tweets erased this, I'm like, oh ship, like I said that that was me, Like like that was two thousand and something. I'm like, I don't even know,

and I still don't think it's me. So I told me because like people was operating my street. Don't take it back. Just evolved. Now, Mom, all this happens, they call you for shure the voice immediately is it the bag or is it like you know what, let me see if I can add on to what's not the bag? Lie? If it was the bad for me, I would have been there with a pin, y'all. I had on thinking anything. I want to think about me. I want to think about me. I can't hurt people feelings like I gotta go,

I carry anybody. I don't like that ship, but the ship is dope like right. So I was doing a Saturday night live performance. I had that question, let me get it. I get it that. Yeah, it's gonna work. We don't don't say anything. We're gonna to ruin everything. Alright, alright, there we go. Now, So we were doing a performance man and Sir Mark Barnett was that So Mark Barnett is television and film you know, like you know exactly

produce of The Apprentice and so you name it. Let say you feel me like he's done exception know the well, So he out there in the fucking audience checking off the show. I made him and Lauren Michaels who who you know? I guess? So yes with that, he just said he saw something in me and you feel me. And it didn't hurt that. I had the motherfuckering number one record in the country at the time. Continue, I love it. I love listen man man man not seriously though,

like me and Adam were cool. Um, you all got together. We head then like they let us know off top of who they thought the cast would be and feeling like, you know, so we sat down, we had a preliminary dinner together, man, and everybody was just like me and Adam knowing each other. I just a dope story bout Adam too. Can see record when you said, Adam, listen, we know you're like very like up there. People don't know. Yeah,

people yet least we don't don't know. Okay, yeah, And for those who don't know, Maroon five is one of the biggest I mean careful, I word this, What is it? Because what was then in sync? Like like they're like they're like the grown version. I don't see you you know, yeah, like were like before, but Sin was his sync, Like they're like the grown up Virgin and they were they wear rolesques. I'm not Adam levine Rolette game. You ever see you ever see a Lavine roletts game? His insect

and training pictions. He's like, what do you think about his watch games? Crazy? By the way you're watching, I don't have no idea. I felt like I can't announce whatever the names. It's ridiculous. It's undulous. I felt like the Wizard of Oz is jealous. That is that it's old man. It's it's called it's doing it. It was an up start and we was we was supporting each other. Man. It was like I was like, yo, I love it design. I mean, it's like it's a couple years ago. Was

about ten years old, right. So the style like you know, like everybody's on like slim trim. You know, I'm liking protect you know what I mean, Like you know, presidential, you know all of that, and I got I got those two. But this is old. You know. It's because you what you're talking about Aldams watching, Yeah, don't know what I like. It's like watching ye, So this is all this is. It's all school. It's something that probably but it's worth nothing. That's it's so original and unique.

It's it's it's worth nothing. What do you mean? But you can't trade it for anything. It's it's like painting. It's like painting. I wrote, watch line brilliant. What's your personalizer? To that point is the only person that wanted this person? And then of course you know, like these watchers are estimated and I'm saying, like in ranked by that by their motoring and saying like the movement, so it's like, you know this is like so it's like that in Banks. Yeah,

I don't know what kind of like that. Yeah, I mean like it's it could be a Banksy watch. Yeah, no, Banks, she's the motherfucker. He's a jist. So that's the art nigger, right, He's like an art nigger. He used to be violating, like you know, they found out he black, but he's gonna go to jail because maybe he's been doing this like you gotta be white, because he would just be putting like pas museums and is already there, Like come on, you can't do that. Every black, you're black, you're arrest

of the art community. And the white community and Middle America at large love him so much. If he turns out to be black, he can be the next black president. That's a motherfucker's considered him. And you know what I'm saying, he's gonna be like I got no, I got no rated all the building. What's my brother got about with it? Man? About what you're saying? Man was on the was on

the white. So either way, like I just brought it out because it worked so well with what I was doing tonight, and I'm saying you feeling me in but I'm trying to tell you some real ship because now how motherfucker's are now the larger conversation has become property. Really, you know, just talking about that right now. So I'm just being really about like just the fact that this watch is worth nothing. It looks good it was worth and you'll be staying at the fighting a hotel, which

I'm just being honest. That hotel. I've never seen the hotel under or like fourteen hundred. I've never seen it like that. That is a little rage. Yeah, I didn't know that. Don't try us rooms like that is because we worked that way were you broke off. I'm not over there. I'm an employ either. That's the most just one of the most gorgeous properties on South Beach. Listen, that was the best at that. That was what I'm saying is I'm a paid performer and a preferred guest.

So you know, I'm still getting you know, that's the big but you get me a scripted is written it. You know, I don't really know. I'm we can't relate. He lit the other thing he said that he said, it's right, let's go, let's go. He was just talking the other days. He was just talking. The other day he was like, it's out because I'll be at the Fighting Hotel. You know, I'm just looking at this thing. I was like, what then did he just because now, mind you, that's how I I don't know about the

I don't know if I'm pronouncing it right. Fight hotel restaurant was Drink Champs Army. This is when like we were like we was battling everybody out there. So Jay jay Z had landed in Miami and the Drink Champs Army had showed me a picture of jay Z, so I wanted I sent it to Jay, but I wanted to know it wasn't you know, just talking him. But you know, this is how much people want you on drinking chaps. So he's like, where the fund did you see this that? He's like, He's like, you know, what

come to me at the hotel? So he said, yo to Fighting the hotel And I had never heard of this ship, So what is it? That's the hotel. I've never been there. I've actually actually I was like for Mexican revolutionaries hang out. I don't know as I'm on the way going there, he goes your chill. We went to Chris Rock show and Chris Rock shows by my place. We're rolling out is this weekend, So I just turned around and went that way and my wife gets your hair done bit. But I actually never went in there

or whatever. But everyone would it looked like you like, no, no, it's a couple of big Yeah, he's he needed me for something. That was something, So I had to be the hub. Yeah yeah, telling my man New Jersey torkmen that even mean if you got tork, that even mean you're selling a lot of drugs. You're in the strip club and look at your face and tell it's the person one. So to see though, man, coming from where you came from, seeing you ever thought hip hop would

be this big? You ever thought that, you know, you'll be performing like like you went on Talk with Light No Richie, I imagine old but was throwing pats on stage like come on, like he's on stage like he's still getting the popping, No doubt now he was. He was. He was taking care of he has a bad one

with him then time like he was. But the greatest part about that, you know what it's just the the acknowledgement, you know what I mean, like you know, the share of space, you know, I mean, like to be mentioned in the same sense. Man, it's such a compliment. Man, you feel like I can't help but be humble about that man a lot of riches, you know, like you know that's my ancestor. Man, he come to poon me.

I'm humble. You know what I was that phone called even getting that phone quartered which you want crazy come for all? And do you act do you act like like a little stuck up at first, because you're like, you know, what one thing I'm gonna be is comfortable. Because what I'm saying like, it's it's just if I know these people, I grew up with him, and I'm saying, you feel me like I can. I mean, he essentially taught me how to sing. I can sing along? Like

how long? How to sing is? It's imitating people. So it's like, you know, and I realized that I was, you know, growing and some like getting better when I could just be flushed up against it, you know what, saying like you feel me like and not being a tale of the difference between myself and the track. I mean, so that's how I learnt to say it. But the biggest the first step to being great is having great taste. What I'm saying, you feel me. You just got your

know what's good. And I'm like, you know, but the first thing you feel this was good to you. You know, I'm saying, you feel me, And it might not be everything for everybody else, but like you gotta just be true, be true to thy itself as the saying goal what I'm saying, and that's why all this colorful come from. Man Like can I'll just be having fun with it now, and like because it ain't no secret, Okay, let's speak some noise. I've never seen Lina Recie perform. I had

dinner like Jason will him. He was to the side one time, and then I've had across the street from one time. But I see our our perform all at some point gives out roses. Every woman in the crowd losing their minds for some reason. I felt like has like that, and I wasn't. I was gonna try to. I was trying to say something, you know, pointed about it and it's as opposed to just being up. But the reality of it was I was coming on early

people were still failing in their seats. I was performing to like you know, no where near full, right what I'm saying, and then it would eventually grow throughout the set, people start sitting down by my getting comfortable, and then night would fall something like you know by the time I'm at the songs that they're gonna motherfucker no, you know what I'm saying. So you know, we finished them off with crazy and fuck You and like it's like, bam, we're gonna be like you know, and what's funny is

that he safe and fuck you crazy ship. That's literally my next question. You keep throwing my next song fuck you that was your independent as well, and fuck you and what we did we did that together that he did. But no, but but glad Richie puts on this that shows so much energy and such a fucking arsenal, you know what I'm saying, like an iconic, legendary hit records every tempo from slow to mid to fucking all night long. I'm saying, like, you're gonna that should gonna be motherfucker'.

I love y'all said back longer listening. Your mom's got funding and Richie right now be showing more respectively louder. We might think we're a lot younger, but once you go, it's gonna be just like muscle memory, and you're gonna you're gonna realize to be reminded that you've been around. You're gonna know all these songs and that's what's great about it. That's God damn, that's God damn awesome. So

um through our all hip hop. If you just if you're could do one thing over better, what would you do? I would take my entire am seeing career more serious. I mean, like I'm telling you aside from your singing career, well singing like I could do that easier. I'm saying you feel me like I could sing easy? Um, I guess what I mean by that is like you know, just more a depth and more like you know you have enough you're not having affinity for like color and

harmony and melody. But you know you don't feel that there was undeveloped lane in your MC career or do you feel I wish you know what I'm saying, like that I had like more wrap ship that connected. You know what I'm saying, like like we all know you as an real real fans, real rapsole I just made from my solo work. Um you know all of my albums were kind of like you know, live very I mean like it's wrapping all kind of shipped on them ships.

And so you feel me like so I didn't. I didn't feel like I did enough as an m C. And like I'm I feel like I'm still as good of and n see as an MC as I can, you know what I mean, like as I want to be.

You feel me, um so, but the bulk of what that is and what it represents some something like you know like the roots of the tree is good and Dungeon Family and that's why we've been you know so like refurbishing the brand, you know, like boots to the ground, wem saying and doing some ship we haven't done the twenty five years together and that's tour. We never did it this year right now. Yeah, the Dungeon Family is trying with this. KPIs out there with us. We got

actually open zed noise. You know, it's like Charld the tool Bus and came out just as the you know, the top tier that's just to come and you know, oversee it and be you know, you feel me just be present, you feel me like because it was just it's just it's pretty fucking uh you know history what we're doing if we don't never get a chance to do it again. But like to didn't come come on right? We need We talked about it. We talked about. What

I can tell you is he's proud. I'm saying you feel me like, and he's accessible like and we we are still very very immediate family, all of us. We talked very consistent. Last three times I've seen are three thousand. He was by himself with a shoe straight valve. All right, that's a great story right now. Look that that's the same thing you just know about me the other day.

I can't I walked up by myself. You see him by himself and like man like, I mean like just I mean, oh my ship, my gee, that's Finely I look over the home because I was just about to say some games to Energy Complex. I don't have to fear something I don't, you know, I mean like because I did to take it when I was out there. Know what I'm saying a little real quick, I mean

just because ce those here. I just want to say this on the Energy of Andre only go always to us, but we would appreciate if Andre comes back to the table. We all would give we all ways because we all fans too, you know what I'm saying, Like you know, but um, there's no there's no pressure, man, not not how hard it would be. The deal to dunge your

Family album done with every member. I'm just done your Family right now, my techot P. Because I felt like if I'm asked this to Risisi, start sweat right, just be men like it's really it's it's a whole lot easy. I was just about to say a chord. Yeah, man like, and that's the conversation we've been happening because like the energy, like you know, it's like a room now, like the motherfucker's feeling some kind of way, like, man, we could we could do this ship this is think only your studios.

It's easier. Yeah, I mean like anyway, I think we should actually do something more. You know, we're out and go to go some go somewhere where the Kanye then you can slap you right the Miami and record. Yeah, we used to go to the Circle House. I'm come down STI. That's remind me of jail that name, Like I immediately feel like I'm locked out there. You'd be like,

why we don't stop? Don't stop for that. So what I wanted to ask is did you foresee when you was the Narves Barkley, not even foresee after you did Narves Barkley and then Run the Jewels came about, did

you see the connection? Um? Yeah, definitely definitely um black kid, you know, like you know, even though you think it was that simple RACI le wise, No, I mean, like the thing is just dope, you know what I'm saying, Like you feel me like and you can't you can't pretend the effect and you feel like you know, I mean like you know, uh, the reciprocation was there and something like you know what I mean, Like, so it was it was just official I'm saying, like, you know,

and I thought it was dope, Like I mean, if I could be any kind of information to somebody like that and just so they could you know, like you know, create a path. It's about blazing trails, you know, so like I can dig that and so like I feel like I feel like all of that is for culture to just show what we're capable of, you know, what I'm saying, you feel me? Well, we ever see a Seelo lyrical album, just lyrics, just rhyming, Man, i'd be tripping.

I think a lot and say you feel me? And I think that you know, maybe if I if I sit down the focus, Yeah, I probably feel it. And I'm saying like, and I know that I should, and so that coul real to be dope. And I mean because what I actually commit to and I you know, and and this and this, you know it's the space. I mean, I probably you know, that's when you realize you can go further than that. It's like, Okay, what the funk I was waiting on in the first place.

I'm saying, but like I don't know. I mean like I don't know. Motherfucker's give a fuck. Yeah, don't play, I try to. This is to the motherfucker Seelo Green and also got our brother joining the show. Motherfucking gun playing right now we see the Little Mother she has very same thing taking down. Yeah, can somebody get the

year because somebody? Sorry sorry to change subject to like sour, but you own victory lack with Nipsey House still ye man, Yeah, that it hit home for me right for all of us every side, Yeah, you know personal do you know Nipsey prior to recording with him or yeah? Okay, you know, um yeah, and you know the only one of my count on that record and the saying he came for he traveled to come get me. You see what I'm saying.

So you mean a lot of really significant in that way, you know, and and of course you know the the untimely passing. It's just, you know, it's just iconicizes this this particular project so much more. It is you know, it'll it'll live forever now and it's not because of the circumstance arounding it, you know. And I get a chance to you know, be you know, it's been a sweet and sing like but I get just to be a part of that legacy. It's gonna live forever, you

know what I mean? Like, and so will I you know, in in in association, and I'm saying like, so it's fucked up, you know what i mean, Like you know, because I was just like God, damn, I thought about Dad, and I thought about just you know, who else I do with with with what all set record too? You know what I'm saying. It's like I got it has to be a part of some some really relevant ship right now, something like it was. It was just like an honor man, like you know, to rock with the

home in that way. Now can't play YouTube because we all heard rumors of you know, Nipsey coming very very very close to signing to MMG. And so I'm sure you know you're being uh one of US's right hands man. I'm sure you had a lot of encounters with him. So how I was, how did you take that? First? I want to start with like with me and me and the Big Homie was just wrapping rapping by like, um, do this this generation appreciate his art and and there

you go. You know what I'm saying, Nipsey like he's like the cloth or the screet like you know what I'm saying, like like for real, And as you can see, he reached out to the Big Homie and the record that he did with ross Um, the first one is a joy already it was like not and then the second one smile. I can't play with anybody else in the car because I don't want him to think I'm a bit, But I get to you know what I'm saying a little little it's like that like that. You

know what I'm saying, You know what I'm saying. So I'm just I'm just humble to even be in this situation right here. And you know what I'm saying. First off, and second of all, um, I didn't really interact with I didn't see him, you know, I mean, you know, how be bro. You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying, I'd really be really really ter, you know what I'm saying. So I didn't really get to get to bump into him on the industry sets like

that like that. But I already know just by watching his interviews, listening to his music, I already knew he was grounded. He was what we need to follow. He was a leader, you know what I'm saying. And that's what you know. And and I took off out of his music when I did listen to it, but you know what I'm saying, and that was that was Keith, You know what I mean. You know you know what we're gonna say. We're gonna all say God bless and rest in peace. But moving on to a positive, positive No,

you know what I'm saying. We want like you know your champions about praising the artists while they're alive. And again, I want to reiterate, you know, I'm so glad that you know gun Play pulls up because I know he's gonna help us with this is. We want you to know that you appreciated. You know what I'm saying, Like everything that you did. You know what I'm saying, You are a legend living as a legend. You're humble, but will brack for you, no problem, no problem, no problem.

But never mind the South. You are living legend for us and every hip hop But I started more, I started selling the lead when That's why it means so much to me when I listening to y'all and listen like to if intro, the outro to everything, y'all dropped jewels before the jewels was supposed to even be picked up. Niggers ain't even know they were supposed to pick up jewels, and it was hious like y'all, like like the the everything from the first single from you know what I'm saying,

peeping in my window and stuff's happening. Now, let me let me it's happening now. We just asked because conspiracy theories, they always say that who's that peeking in my window? Was about some other ship that we didn't know. No, what's happening now? The gates keeping out, like what was that record about? Because I don't know tell you the whole story. It's annoying. Alright, So look that this is this is one of my all time familites. Okay, um m cs of all time who said recently and he's

post to you his favorite MC. This is busting Ryan. I'm saying, yeah, bigger right like Louve, but's one of my all time favorite. But anyway, the story goes, we're in Atlanta. Uh it's now staining Coonia, but it was Bosstown. Then Outcas bought Bobby Brown's studio. It was Bobby Brown's first it was called Cocaine. I'm sure so yeah, so but you know what, I'm suing the story. I'm taking that back. No, we was a dark we'll a dark Dallas Austin studio, not someone Si. Yeah, but a lot

of cocaine and always see him mine. Yeah, I don't know the game. You check it out. Buster Rhymes gave us. Buster Rhymes came in our session. He said, brothers, look at you know not but for me, what y'all work outout? But what if he sitting like that? Brothers are doing some good things. I want to pass off a bit of information to y'all. There was a book called The Hold the Pale Horse. I'm missing that quit. Yeah, come on, billy yourself. Wait wait wait, walkas Gables way. Buster mind

gave it to the Dunker. So Big Rule, who was a resident. You know what I'm saying, you know, yeah, you know he's good Rule exactly. He read the book first. This book is what it's three hundred pages on better, so we had to take his time. He read the book. You know, we always living at the duchy like that, you know what I mean, Like it's crazy at the time. So basically a short, long story short. That book got around everybody were head, everybody read beholding good he must

y'all on the whole nother. Yeah, And then your nigga's in the studio high snap seeing somebody people through the window. That was analogy, you though, sometimes that's another way to say, like big brothers watching everyone, Let me and check one more little quick enough man. Nigga my old girl right, she was being like Hella hip then and she gave me um um the Sunday National Law some some book whatever whatever, and it ultimately led me to the Bill

Cooper book, the White Horse Book. So my nigga, like when they was saying that my old girl was preaching that same ship to me, and I was like, oh hey, it should make sense, and my nigga, it's going on now. I'm just saying. You know what I'm saying, You know everything, it's all about putting like yo yo ship right there on the table, like for real, for real, that was talking that ship before Nigga's even perspective. You know what

I'm saying. That's why I like, it's truly a testament and it's it's it's a a a an accomplishment to still be here man and talking about it right now because you know, we was blacklisted out of the gate and something we can't with it, we can't with the information right out of the game. I almost like we're glad to make one dollar and you crazy all right on the line right off top and let me just

tell you something. Let me you you almost like um be with me at the o J level, meaning like some people don't look at o J black You made a certain level. We had a certain people just look at you like you just see though what you want. I just say, I'm just saying it's like oh no, no, no, you look at you know if you know nothing else. But what I'm saying is what I'm saying to me, you are Celan right now, walk down the street. The white people are gonna say or something him. Yeah, of course,

of course, of course. It's like still waters steal me everyone. I know that. Look he conquered the job of staying out the county jail long enough, like like you did all of us, Like you know what I'm saying, like, yeah, that's that's like a flake time job, like stay out the county stay saying says that we are we gonna make up thinking jail. It's warmly conversation. That's any time stay say now, Mark, I'm sorry made it was g I should be shall look look how y'all caught me? Man?

Hold okay, good in a mineral some ship, I'm like, way on that. Yeah, alright, cool, that's what it is. I'm so kids, So I'll take y'all really you don't we cli hip hop? They're gonna you know, man know what again? Because I know gunplayer is gonna coach side and defense on coach sidnists. We just want to say how much we appreciate you. You know what I'm saying for you know, I'm digging in the dirt and breaking

boundaries and a lot of ways. Um everything I'm seeing you guys and um goodie mob and outcasts and you know, taking different ways. That's one of the reasons why I messed with a person like for a round was just to just jump outside the box. And and at the time to Swiss Beasts as well, a lot of people didn't like he was just working with rough riders and that was it, and I just wanted to do something different. You discover for real? I mean easy to say that. Yeah,

I love essentially being tributed to you. Yeah, I love it. I love it. And you know what, you know, I got number love for the guy and I love our history together. But you know, and that's the thing is, you know, I want to make it more about you. Um, so like you know, um, it's it's gonna stop. I'm good, I keep hitting the mic, right, I'm good, alright, So sorry, everybody got their own paths. Yeah, it don't matter. What's what everybody we can call come up together. It don't matter.

Rise here for someone, go this way, someone go to film somethe gonna give me, someone go to this something producing some of the suff so crack someone to do. So, how's this whatever? But everybody got their own joint, like you know what I'm saying, Like everybody, so nobody should be like, oh that nigga, Now what's your path? Like? What what did you create for yourself? What that's the need? Did you see for yourself that you made reality? You

know what I'm saying, This was his reality? Like, Yo, look, look I'm gonna be. I'm gonna be a screet nigga. I'm gonna be I'm gonna be me. But I'm gonna go ahead on Fronago to Bagel with these with these food wops. We just go get where I got to go. You know, I'm gonna make the best music possible that could pull that shit about you stick to your ribs, say that and then boom at the same time, Hey, you know what I'm saying. Be, that's what I'm saying.

That's that's what I'm watching him. I'm watching I'm watching Fresh Prince of ballet. Don't watch you to like I'm watching them set. I'm watching these is on film, but they're still them. Still, I'm still gonna be but I could black. You know what I'm saying, just every little what I have to I'm not trying to do that. I ain't I'm running like out to but if I have to not that that's a great saying that that that that's that says there's a deadline between being pro

black and being professional. That's it. That's it, yo. So you just and then and listen at this point, know nigga like, come over CNN the whole situation. Let's keep it. You see the lep Yeah yeah, he And the first song I ever had on a mixtape was him first. I'm just letting you know the history. But I hit great. I'm just I'm we got we got music, we put out exactly. He's He's the ultimate accomplishment. Is you see how naturally it was for me to say how much

I appreciate you. I mean you say and the thing about it and appreciate you and and vice versa. Think about it. That's what we gotta do for our community. This thing is we gotta preach that we can preach. We can preach so much other yo, yo, this pitch and you know, smoke yourself for why do not say? Yo man? My man is a great guy. I'm gonna

tell him math, you know what I'm saying. Like when y'all single to just passed away, godless and dad, we actually had footage of us giving him his flowers right there, saying, Yo, you know what that was? That was a beautiful government for me because I didn't do it for that moment expected him to pass away. But the thing about it is that's what we gotta. We gotta big of our

communities way more than you know what I'm saying. Because you go to Nebraska, you go to Milwaukee, or you go to uh doods to do off Germany and they'll be throwing roses at your your feet. Well we it wants to be at your feet whatever in America as well. You understand I'm saying. I hate when I go to

Europe and they appreciate me more. I hate when I go to Europe the doors over that nine o'clock and they they got the whole ship pack the six Can I tell you this, yes, sir, I don't know I don't know if it's just because I'm just on the celebrity standing there at that moment, or if it's really

something to do with me. But I got so much love, bro, That's why I like, you know, even when you were talking earlier about me be putting up and it's something just for my own's like, like, I don't got nothing but love. I swear to guard men. Over twenty five years professional career, I have not had no problem and I'm everyone. I'm something like, I've just been so blessed to cover the fortunate. Because that's what you give out. You don't give out that I give out that nigga,

what's up that? That's what dog? Whatver? Yeah? No, not for real, but inside you ran nigga, whatever's inside you, my nigga, You you put out my nigga because if you, if I'm around a hunted robberts my nigga, I'm gonna put out that whatever you have happened, so you happen to you if you give out that what's up? Brother, I'm just internally I'm just blessed to be in life. Hey, what's up? Brother? And you show love? But it comes back to it comes back to you. I'll figured this

ship out. I did. I figured it out. I'll still be a husband, but I'll figured it out. But let's keeps that's his energy run like like I can't play that smile song bro like when nobody can know nobody could be in the whip. I have to be riding along for a long stretch. And yeah, I particularly love Miami. I love Miami, always have many time life. So I got you to stand with the kings here, man, whether it be trigged rigg feeling like they called on me. Man, you like you know I still I still with the

best of it. You know what I mean. So I'm solid on that now. You let me just tell you man um again. In hip hop, we just want to reiterate that we start continuing to pick up all legends. We gotta tell you right now in your face, in front your queen's face and funt the home your face, that how much appreciate it, how much, how much I'm a part of your life in facts all of us, like I could, I kid, You're not like when I said, Yo, we gotta see little anybody's like yo, ship who's happy

hearing them? When dude, they want to come up. When they pulled up, look at look at this gorgeous you know what I'm saying this, this will come here to salute you, because that's what that's what I explore my crew and my crew. I don't want to tell you you were great when you're not here. They're telling you you're great right now. So when we finished this, every one of these things are gonna want to picture you up. I've never made everybody already did that. And you know,

and you know, and you know that's what. That's what when your energy is yea holdingness, you give that as a gift. That is a blessing. There's so many people that are your stature that is idiots and assholes and hate their fans and hate the people. And it's something that's noticed about you always as you're always humble, you're always down on the earth. You're always talk to whoever we want to talk to you. And that's a beautiful thing.

We're going to salute that one you're sad wan continue to print for me or something like that and protect me something thoughts and you're well wishes man. Let Carol, because I see have too around a certain kind of way. I want to spot you know yeah, I think just keep me allowed when you see it. Woman to say, anyone has never told you this before in your life.

I want to thank you everything you did for hip hop, everything you did for the group, everything you did from the land lad think you did for America, everything you did for your city. I want to thank you because it's well appreciated over here. You're making me proud of you. Gotta take a picture and that