Episode 184 w/ Fabolous

B TOC Your boy n A O N A? What up is d J e FN And it's his drink chats motherfucking podcast makes up right and right now, if we don't have one of the most assistant rappers in the world. Every year he has a hit, either it's an underground hit or big mega head. He has been consistent since nine out here, stopping doing doing it, just being just being consistent, giving the fans what they want every fucking year. One of the most lyrical people ever.

It gets looked over his lyricism sometimes because he makes so much big hits and people focus on that and they don't actually focus. This man is a super duper real lyricist plaques on plaques, on plaques, on plaques, on plaques, on plaques on plaques. He's been doing it, and I'm personally happy to see him from the beginning to where he is now the only man in the whole world to get away with the inkling. No one can get away with this only here. No one qushes him in that.

That's how cool he is. One of the flies stingers in the world. If you don't know what I'm talking about, motherfucking father, listen, so fab in the beginning, in the beginning, you got through, but it's pop. Can you tell a braking fats and like, come on, goddamn it, we are celebrating. I cannot start the Dame of view and I ain't gonna lie. I ain't a lot, mr Day. I'm in the plastic cups, plastic cups. I like plastics. I'm like a hood. I'm wanna drink a special ship, but I

want to drink first, drink champagne too. Plastic cups work, That's what I'm used to them, so fat, Like a lot of people, don't let make it to what I said in the intro uh to me if you would have made records and then and take this, if you'd have made records like just street records, like people will compare you to like black thought of you don't say it with that lyrical thing, because like you're really somebody who really thinks about each goddamn ball line? Right, how

do you develop that? And who inspired that? With artists? I think, um, I think the first artist that inspired me was Can I See Four? Then I was just like a fan of hip hop, so like anybody who just had a good joint you. But Kaine was the first person that I started seeing like getting style swag, you know what I mean, the girls like that. He still was hard, he smashed. He was ahead of his time in social media. Social media need have been lit. But it was a little too that was too much

back then then. I think the chocolate, the dots chocolate thing might have yeah, and and and then and then the Speedos. Remember he had the speedos U in her book, right, No I'm tooking my home Big day came. No, No, But that's what Naomi Campbell when he had the Speedos, right, that's what it would it would then. I know, it's just still just still felt weird to me, it definitely

was weird. Now it was lit he is so Kane sparked it for me, and he sparked like line for line, like how he would even set up his bars, you know, put the quarter in your ask because you played yourself. You know what I'm saying. What you want dope with dog food like he dope dog. Kane was the first one, and then it was Big. All my influences was kind of close to me too, like Big and then Jay because you know, it was from where you're from, related more of court, you know what I'm saying. They look

more relatable to you. They look like you. They look they come from the places you come from. Marcia is seven minutes from me, you know what I'm saying. So all of those things was those are the artists that you know. How how is it seeing the new Brooklyn? You know what I'm saying, because um, this is a whole new era. Like you got a Soho house in Brooklyn, now, like that's how it's different. I mean, but it's it's it's it's old roll is good, you know what I mean.

I love Bold Brooklyn. I love you know the energy of old Brooklyn. I love Brooklyn still there. Let's be clear. Yeah, still still underneath you and you make it wrong and the roc like that, you know, I mean, it's still there. But Nell, Brooklyn is is showing you, um, you know,

the progression evolution. You know what I'm saying, even you know down to the nets coming in, you know what I mean that that whole that whole thing is just it just shows that Brooklyn is growing up a little bit to you know what I'm saying, potential to And you think anybody got you on the Show Brooklyn challenge or pretty much you nailed everybody. I think I nailed it because I said it all. I was gonna say that I got after that one. I knew he was

gonna say that. But because I've seen cassing over to an interview and he said, yeah that may don't called him and mayn't say he got you. Now listen to me, no verse, Yeah, man maynoes you know. And he also he's speaking from a place that he comes from. You He's he's from notion, from the from the on the street. So you know, but I mean on that type of time,

that's what I do. Single. I might even say that my verse started that challenge what I'm It's like when you walk on something so bad, like you know, you ever you have a felt like everybody want to walk you know, everybody want to learn you have from like you did a record where, um, you didn't you didn't have the best verse. Um, Like my first question for anybody's on bad from TVs? Who had the best verse on bad from TV? Kissing Styles back and forth Badly?

I just liked because it was two of them. I did, like styles back to style, smoked my weed and went pass it back to me. I'm thinking, what is going on? And I didn't know now so that but what is there a record that you you felt like you should have went back in and changed your verse or it probably his records that I felt like I could have, you know after the fact, But I was, I was. I was cool with it at the time, Like when I'm doing them, I listened to it enough to say,

oh yeah, now we just send it over. You know what I'm saying. I'm not like the the freestyle off the top of the head and just give anybody anything like I really sit all right put in it, you know what I mean? And I think people respect. I think when people even getting verses back from me. They listened, They don't. You don't sound like if you get a verse from and do it Andy being like, man, you just said anything on this ship. You know, I don't think.

I don't think I give people that energy. Now. Now, at one point you was doing I think it's the Friday Night Freestyles or something was you and Jada right now? You would you were you were predominantly doing records that was out already, or you was doing new records too. No, I was just doing nineties okay freestyle. Have you ever free stylet on someone's new record and they got mad

at you? No? No, because you know, I've got calls before when I was the biggest, bigger artist and I would rhyme on someone's record and then to the radio or the people that's you know, you know cool or something will play my version as opposed to playing the other artist version. So I've got he was doing that back then, you know what I'm saying, because we was at that time, we was jumping on new ships. French Bobby Smurder remix almost got a little bit more burned

in the original, you know what I'm saying. And I could I could imagine Bobby Smurder labels called the Sneaky Behind that French was supposed to be on the remix, but French just threw his out, so he drew it out before the remix was completed, or he might he might have not even put it out. Let me let me say that. I don't think he put it up, but it came out with just him and the Bobby s Murder when it was supposed to men all the

people who that was, I guess on the remix. So they got that one first, and then I didn't even though I know that because the Smurder boys was telling me like they hadn't finished putting the re mixed together yet, but that one was out now, So you know, people gonna play the new joint. Frenches join Hisfic. They really do know each other. We do pick up the findy man in the background. Got there biking, You're get out of here. Then each try to bring some niggas to

my projects to battle me. Wait wait wait, wait, wait to stop to stop stop Okay, hold on, this is this is this is you already on or you know? Okay, this is me seeing the balls. I'm hot in the hood. Preclu Was it pre clue? I might have had a I might have a few Clue freestyles at this point, and you know, niggas is trying to after me. And this is like ninety eight cloud chasing three guess who? Guess who the three guys I know who that's who. It was the franchise Red Cafe. What's the other thing?

Bigg eat Bigga and um what's the other nigga? The third que ce que Heat in Atlanta? Something that I needed. I needed. I need to understand, miss fat. I ain't battling y'all niggers a little man. Did that happen like that? Okay, okay, okay, okay, Yeah, I'm not gonna lie. I'm like I'm calling I'm happy,

like you know, gravy real. They ended up that like you know what I'm saying, Like you could have like even Red Cafe, like I knew them from back then with Mike Lightning and ship like that running around with Mike Lighty. Yeah yeah, so they was. They was actually a little hot, like they got a little I ain't Red Cafe killed his book. So Brooklyn freestyle, you see it, he killed it. He looked like his face was strong, like he was looking a big shot. Yeah, he took again.

He was working out his head like you know, you know what I'm saying, like he was ready. I don't look at someone on a space. So you come into the game, how do you essentially even connect with to my uh my managers at the time, Kep Webb and Chill they knew you, Kep web do Clue No first, Yeah, met them in my hood that stop and they they you know, at the time, a couple of guys was coming around saying they could get me on. So there

was another you know group of those guys. So I was just really, I would let people just have the opportunity. Let me see what you canna do, you know what I'm saying, Because everybody telling me they could get me on, and at that time to getting on, there was no Internet and all of that. So it's more like who you knew kind of thing, and they who they knew it was Clue. Clue at the time was you know, Clue had the Monday Night mixtape, had the mixtape game.

It was it was a big deal. So, um, you know, they brought me up to Clue. We met Clue and not from that point on, I wouldn't say they was managers my managers from that point on, but I or that day, Um, they connected on their word. You know

what I'm saying. They were saying that they could get me the clue because a lot of people at that time were just saying, you know it was doing a big findy just saying they could get you on whoever, whoever is your booking agent is a platinum because you're like, you're like every like I ain't gonna lie like every other day you were like Vagas or somewhere like you you have a platinum agent or is that is that?

That is that your hits? You gotta relax, I was saying, but you know what I mean, I don't know where, I don't know. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna lie. Let you know, I definitely even think like that. I'm proud, Like do you do you realize like you realize most rappers can't work like that? Though most rappers can't even receive work, you know what I'm trying to say, Like most you really can go out every week, can if

you want it? You know what I'm saying, Like you really can like this, listen that there's this's like Fat Joe was especially one like that. Uh, there's not a lot, There's not a lot more. I mean there's people. I mean there's like always uh, you gotta relax, always always always like a DMX, always like a DMX who's who's elder than might not have a hit now, but people you can still sell a crowd, but a lot of people like you can still throw it like like like this is a real ship like you can you can

turn around, I can go like this. I can close my eyes and pick up a state and I can see that you use there like that. That's that's don't let's make some noise to that, goddamnit because you're poking agent this classic whoever the kidding that this nigger man? She's Luise Papa Cheese. Well so um yeah, definitely man, I'm want to pick that up man in the state, keep firing. Is it time for I think it's tiger bone? Are you ready for phone? Or you don't want to do? Um?

Your smooth ships call? That's that's what fab You said you were size nine and a half or ten? Okay, not in the half. He's all at what I'm sad? Yeah, getting many gifts, yet all gifts that. Yes, yes, we try to take care of our artists. Man, Yo, fabies, you realized I like, I brag about you. You know what I mean? I brag about you too. I'm like, yo, I know this nigga since he first came in the game, he thinks he beat me in that free style. I don't think that. I don't. That's why I knew you

to say you never got smoked on the record. I just gonna say that because you're very competitive guy. But you did that win. Just to be clear, I want that's crazy. She was crazy? What did I say? Um? Um, let me know. Cast was like Steph mall Berry, who in the club without a weapon, so that your feet make you do the pump dance to perfection? That was kind of all that was kind of all that. But you was hungry, y'all ain't gonna give it to you. You were trying to me. I listened back and I said,

it was no way. He wasn't gonna go twice. I had to go to you went twice. I didn't know when I was gonna ever get that shot again. You want to come up there right? You know what? The month if you want to at Polly curved grow forward like you know. You was like, so you like, I come up there around I got some ship to say, but you don't got to do it at that point. I'm just I didn't even know I was gonna wrap that day work. You said that before. I thought I

thought she was just gonna wrap that. I thought I was just going there to me cool. I thought Kevin Chair was just so they really put you on the spot like that. That's a knocks on back from You're like, oh listen, I have the whole commercive break. I'm saying my ship in my head just what you say that before. But I always thought you was like like playing like you you're dead serious. So when you came home, okay, okay, showed up. Man, that's the that's the side of fact

and the factor because you murped it. But but I'm sitting here because of that freestyle. So when I seem to see the growth from from that, and I always like, you know, to tell you true, but I'll tell you the funny ship you're growing up fifty earlier. Um, I

actually seen fifty from the beginning. Like I always tell that the fifty that I know he got so much like accolades and so much money now and I still it's still funny when I say I'm proud of you, because I'm so he looking at me like nigga, I might see you seven times, but still it doesn't not. I seemed to growth. I seem to you come up, and I'm always salute that, you know what I'm saying. I'm always salute that because I see I seem to hunger in you in the beginning. I seem that you

was relentless. You wasn't gonna you know what I mean, you wasn't gonna let up. And for you to be where you at, I definitely salute that, my brother, because I mean, I think I think that should be more. You know, just think about Let's think about it. Like you had one shot. You went to a radio station and at the time, I was like platinum, I was like whatever, and you came and each other. I think they what did you think you hate? So how did you feel about Clue bringing I didn't even have a

relationship with. I still don't know why he gave me that platform, on that opportunity, you know what I'm saying, That shot like that because I didn't even have a relationship to tell you the truth, Um, it felt like he was meant to be. Like you know how some certain things don't feel You didn't feel no kind of way. I actually did not word when he was like he was just in the moment, he was like my man's

gonna rhyme. And I think they called him sport. I didn't even call you fave at the time, and I was like, no problem, and I did. And then and when I seen that they made him the forefront of desert storm, like he went from like being like you know, the artists that they was thinking about to the and that that ship like me, like I love to be be a hot part of hip hop history. You understand saying I can pay a little part, like a tiny

part of that ship. And you know I play a tiny part of Farrell's career like like that say, because you know the world recognized his talent. You don't take away from his talent, not taking away from his town, but you held the world recognized Like that moment for you in the station, that was a moment. That was a moment that changed things. Yes, because I always wanted to know how he felt about that because I didn't.

I didn't. I don't know if Clue even mentioned it to him that he was gonna do it or like even when I started rapping and rapping back and forth. But he's at this point, you know, accomplished and did doing his thing, and even him going back to the hood is little man that you have told you to take me up, but that did happen. And gonna be honest,

yall relationships seem organic from the beginning. So even though he told me he didn't say that, just meant he said, my man, but it felt it felt it felt but he didn't claim but it felt it felt, it felt good. And I'm just like, so so let's let me I'm jumping around a little bit. I remember one of your first singles was with Nate Dog and this was like right after like the East Coast West Coast Ship was like drawing like and you was like you not only did did the song, but you actually went to Cali

and filmed the video. No, no, no, you okay because the Little Riders maybe maybe ain't crazy. No, she was just patching back together. That was one of the illest parts about that record, because I don't think before that time. It was a little gap in between. Yes it was, And I didn't even know that I really was doing that until it happened, and I was like, damn, like, you know, niggas haven't been working with each other like that since the vig and pop shit, you know what

I'm saying. So this was kind of like that could And I don't even know if Nate I thought that deep into it too. The kid who produced it was from the Bay and then they jumped on it, and then you know, I made it my first single, and then people kind of connected the dots and that, like I we didn't. I didn't see it. I know. I definitely wasn't looking at it like you're just gonna bring

the least in the West. I wouldn't even lie. It actually did in a certain way because it was like, um, you coming out being the new hot kids and interscope at the time, right I was on Electric Electric, Okay, Elector and with the number one DJ which is Clue and then this is the guy who's a legend, and so it did in a way, but it was it was funny at first. I remember industry people like how flex right there? Well in cruise the world, no one was hotter than Clue. In the mixtape world. At one point,

no one was hotter than Clue. But what I gotta give Flex is no one has ever really touched Flex on that radio, like throwing a party on the radio, like just your New York City stopped, like you haven't heard Flex pulling over, pull over, like like he's like, hold on, hold over, motherfucker, I'm going over and he'll drop a ball like I'm into that ship. You know when Drake and Meek had had had had the ship

and Flex said I got the Meek record. You know, I missed my flight that night because I didn't want to hear it. I didn't I'm so much as a fan of like the hip hop ship. I was like, I looked at by and I didn't want to miss it's coming out. It's my it's my uncle's birthday. So I go to my uncle's trib. My uncle dude, you know, chill vibes bombing you at the crib, But it's more like a you gotta you can't be on your phone

and chicken and you know what I'm saying. So it's more like just kicking it with your uncle and and really fucking with him, have a drink, smoke whatever. So I'm doing that and then somebody texts me like, Yo, they're about to do the Meek record. I'm like, wow, Wow, I gotta hear this. I'm trying to really engage. I'm talking deep little kids ship yo cold. I'm trying to figure out way I want to go to the bathroom with a bathroom that you know you can put up

on your phone too. I'm trying to really get that. But I really had to just sunk, and then I didn't. I didn't get to I didn't get to check it out until I got in the car. And now. But the whole time I'm sitting there on he talking to me, I ain't even listening to I'm like, damn, I gotta hear this. I'm talking about the night FLEXI bluff. I'm talking about the night that Flex didn't have he did. It was like, Yo, you don't remember that night, Reflex

he did pull up. This is why I don't know if I was supposed to say this from Flex, but this is why I fucking fun with funk Master Flex. Right, So I I just missed my flight that day, right, so I get on the next flight in the morning. But I get some records and I get it mixed, and I called Flex, and I'm not gonna flex cause I know the whole New York City is gonna be tuned in. So look, play one of my joints while

you're playing in between these war records or whatever. So Flex goes to me, I'm sorry if I was supposed to say this, Flex. The Flex goes to me to know me, how I look out there, and I go because I'm trying not to say, but you look, you know what I'm saying, like you had me missed my flight, like you should have said, I don't have to record at some point. But anyway, I'm trying to avoid it. And Flex is like, how I look out there? And I said, what you mean? He's like, glory, I know

you know. And I said, now you look a little crazy. He said. I was like, maybe he was baking like a biscuit. Maybe you're baking like he said, I know I was because I didn't come outside the whole day. And I opened the door for one person and it was the ups man and the U yes man. Look this story with me. He's here. Rop Knight ain't it. That's it, yo, that should have me. But you know what it is, Flex takes his losses with his wins

the same way, and most people don't do that. Most people lose and want to just you know, throw away. But sorry, we're jumping all over the place. But Takasi six nine, he got two hund grand for you. He wants to do a record for you. Right now, Fabulous is doing it. Let's take a shot to that. Let's take a shot to that salute. But I'm gonna tell you who's gonna work with Takaci six nine. That's who's gonna sucking up, because it's gonna be all of us, just like Gucci. I got the memo that we was

boycott and Guchi the b D Awards. Did did you see that? I'm confused. I didn't say it. I didn't see the avoiding be it was Gucci everywhere. So let's get back to my point. So you know who's gonna I'm gonna do it. What it is is all of us were gonna set a union. We're gonna say we'd all right boycotting not boycotting, we just say anything like the wrappers, We're gonna say we ain't. But let me

tell you who's gonna The motherfucking producers. Now, we talked about this last night, but this episode is coming out good. The producers is gonna be the first. I'm telling the producers you think are gonna do it? Okay? What producer you think won't do it? I think I think any producer that has any name won't do it. I disagree with you. I think Farrell's not hell to them standing. I don't think Farrell would do it. I think Farrell it won't do it if he calls people like me

it's too much moved. That's another thing too. You know you're gonna be some people gonna love that though, but it's not people who don't need that. They'll stay with that. Farrell don't need, right, he don't need it. I don't think Scott starts needed, but it's not like he don't need it neither. It's like, you know what I'm saying, the kid is throwing our platinum records. Scott might need it, Scott okay, just to get it, just to get it gone.

And I don't think he I say he would do it, but that energy is you gotta look at who who needs that energy. I don't think he's held to those standards. I don't think Mike Will made it because held to Fabulous and Nori and Jay the Kisses standards. He not. But it's still if they want that energy, that that the negative of the negative side of it is what could keep somebody doing it even if they don't have that same more. That's what I don't I don't know,

uh six non personally to have it. But like, I just don't like the standard that is said, like you know what I mean, Like you can't do that and then come back and it's nah, you do that, You're gonna you're gonna suffer the consequences of what you do. But we can't. We can't set that for the for our kids. Know I'm saying, right, but the public like that's not cool. You know what I'm saying. It's it's just you, and it's the way and it's the way it came about, you know what I'm saying. It wasn't

like a civilian. If he was a civilion doing the same thing, it would be totally different. But he was yelling gang gang doing that, and that shows kids of this generation that yeah, you could do that and then when it goes left, no repercussions. All right, I'm gonna go right and then I'm gonna come back left and y'all. But but isn't it kind of deeper than that? When you look at that Will Smith is doing Nicky Bond story,

Like that's different. I think why the end of it is the same and that type of what what's the Frank Lucas story that it wasn't the end of the same result American American g did he didn't? He talented, But I think it's a it's a different round. He told on he told on the cops, so he told on Frank Luke. I think he told on everybody. I think he told on everybody. And to connect supposedly and to connect it don't matter. Well, I just think the

movie game is a whole different things. Just telling the story. I guess really like I can't hold them. I guess deeply you can hold him because it's like you pushing the story for it. But like on the on their side, I want to hold Will against Nikki. I would rather they do stories on god Fisher, you know, like the paiding for should have been more focused on rich As opposed to you know, but but guess what our poles in star you know what I'm saying. It's just it's

just a funny world we lived in. Like you know what I'm saying. It's that it's the edge, it's the entertainment of it. And think about the fabis, think about it like this. We're only five percent of people who think like this, Like you know what I'm saying, We're five percent of people who think that we gotta keep it real and we gotta do this. There's so many people who that's why the omars from the wire. This

is way more on Mars now than anything. There's people who tell and stay outside and then come right then back outside. This this was ain't going to witness protection a lone of that that goes into people accepting it. Yea, that's what Let's a rat before used to go hot in the hole. That's where rats went. They didn't come back outside and mixing, mingling. Now you could be lit if you still got money. People except that you're here rap. But he got that bread, he got that bag. That's

a difference than what's going on today. Right before I had to go move somewhere, he had to you know, when they can see him, they threw chase them whatever. You know what I'm saying, even if it was a tattle tell, and then when you grow up, you being a tattle tell was wrong And it's all the social media ship because it's fame at all. Cars. So we just interviewed Troy a right, and we got a couple of us slack about that. Do you think we wasn't Do you think we sucked up? We think we shouldn't

interview Troyer. I don't know, and I know Troy, I don't know the full like I lost connection and track of where that we all because people living our own world, you know where it's. So it's hard for me to say if it was right or wrong because I don't know what he did to say it was wrong. Well, he didn't do it yet, but he did say he's gonna do it because he said he's gonna know what tell He's gonna he's gonna I don't know if he

said that story. He said he's gonna solid story. It was gonna his And he feels like at the end of the day, a person said, if he gave a person a platform for that, we want and if I'm if I'm wrong as a man or you know, I apologize whatever, right, But what I'm saying is he hasn't told yet. Come on, drain you all right, Jesus ross the wild wine. But he hasn't told told. Yeah. And the thing about it is, he in his mind thinks that tax Stone So this is what he this is

is from his mouth. He in his mind thinks that tax Stone told on him. So why the funk He's not gonna say say what he did to him back? Well, I guess the tax moster. I don't know. I don't know if he told or not too. But it is video for the yeah yeah incident, so that kind of tells on you. Yeah yeah. But I don't I don't know. Like I said, I don't know that much of the situation. You know, I know Troy Um actually was like really cool with Troy for for a minute. It just got

so crazy. You know what I'm saying that I don't know what's going on. Yeah, my queen's nick. I chose to move move out of there. I didn't want to be involved with it. But I'm a Brooklyn nigga, and you don't want to be involved right going on here. Yeah, now, but you know we see slap for it. If and if we were out of line for giving a person a platform, then you know, I'm a man at the

end of the day. Like and I heard some people say that, well, they would have been mad if like like they would have implicated the Hot ninety seven and ship like when we had the Hot ninety seven ship. And that's and I don't understand that. I also agree with that because I would have felt something. But here's here's a difference. There was no paper trials other than Little Kim and Foxy Brown. There is no Junior Mafia disk record towards Noriega. There is no Noriega record this

towards you. There's nothing like, there's no there's no nothing. There was no blogs made about me against them and them against us. So when this ship happened, and it was easy to just get it away because there wasn't lines, It wasn't in the public's eye. It was just that incident. There was in the public eye the actual drama or whatever was behind We both shut our mouth. So you can't relate that to that because it's two different instances.

But it is what it is. Like I said, if I did a platform or you know, I Apologizma before that incident. Absolutely incident. Oh you said about taxing Troy. No, no, it was just it was it was just a moment. No, it was it was Little Kim had by a Storm. Big up to Little Kim. She's um her new album not who knew, I'm not and me and hers cool now too, which is which is good? Great ship, Oh ship,

We'll get to that late. But so Kim had was on Quiet starm Yeah, do say right here, maybe we got the x SO and we got the regular one right there for a couple of you know what I'm saying, let's let let's let the whole No, maybe here baby, we are here so anyway, anyway, anyway, so um Kim did Quiet Storm. Ironically, this is why I never knew why this was ever be ever. Alchemist produced Bang Bang,

that small deep producer. That's why if anybody don't know, Alchemists recommended that, Oh those are the two records, why Storm and Bang Bang. I was on Bang Bang. Al Chemists recommended we put a girl on there. You understand, this is this is mar This is why I never knew that's deep. Never took a person forgot about that. Deep never took a personal It was just recorded that he remember when you showed it to me. The part were the fact that are you showing to me? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

yeah yeah yeah. But we didn't record it in the hit factory though, because Foxy visit. That's what New York ship. So anyway, so Alchemists recommends we get a girl. Obviously there's only two girls in New York City at the time. Kim already on people who who considered our competition Marv d obviously, and Foxy was it was cool, like, that's that's not my sister. I felt like that at the time, still do a little bit, um, but but I've tried to feel more. But she just kiss me the away.

Yeah you don't see that one day, all right, but let's let's move on. But but anyway, uh so she uh so, the Fox does it and then that was it. You know, Um, I guess they took it personal because we let Fox say what what what she wanted and well, Kim would definitely think it that personal. So yeah, and whoever recorded, I guess you kind of a phil ate them because y'all was dead y'all had it. See, I didn't look at it like that. That's how it goes.

So something you're telling me and might jump on a song and did somebody in song you're gonna Yeah, I was still spying. You come back to spray to corner. You ain't saying you all y'all niggers. You say spray to the corner. So you're saying if I get on your record and I are out, that's just somebody that I'm cool with, or I would be like, yo, that's my man, Like you can't do that on my Like I ain't got nothing. But if I not cool with huh, you're not cool with it, you let it come out

and I'll let it come out. Then I would. I would also except that he felt away that I put that out on You know what I'm saying telling you, it's like, yeah, I'm riding like you know what I'm saying. I'm kind of you. You're going you're going to do something. I jump in the car, which you right over there? You do it? Didn't say yeah you really may. You're

bucking me up right now. It need anything when they're going along with it, you got you got the notion and say nine when when when Tray said let me out though he got out the car, he knew nigga to let me know what. I didn't never look at it like that. I never did. Never I swear you like you said, I'm naive to that, Like I didn't know.

Like I thought. I thought, like if we're all cool and this guy, is you out all my record or is you out in my interview, you would realize that that is just him because I'm gonna I'm gonna say something else, like like, for instance, I interview enemies that I interview both sides. Sometimes you know, we'll have a

job rule. I have a fifty, I have a earth, and when they bring up each other, I try to because that's not funny to me, you know what I'm saying, Like I kind of try to change the subject, you know what I'm saying because it's not me. You know

what I'm saying. But I didn't. I didn't what you said just now kind of just doing on the type of ball kind of sucked me up because I can see how people look at that when you interview somebody, it looks like a co sign now, but it's really not like yea you might not be in that space, but how people perceive things, it's always different than what

you're intended, you know what I'm saying. So that's how you know you could be doing something out of the kindness of your heart somebody else and they say, or that nig a cloud chasing he trying to you know, he's trying to do this. Or you know when people go give money to the homeless and they tape it.

You know what I mean, it's two sides. You it's giving them some money, but also why you know what I'm saying, So I have to speak like Jesus man, like just thinking powerful, you're just thinking that metaphors and talking good is good man. So okay, let's we're gonna move around. We're gonna move around. That's Michael Bone stronger than the Yes you Got Joker t shirts. So I heard y'all be killing her life. You'll be killing her. Was originally for um the Girl from the View Lenny

S Girl, Adrian, Adrian, I'm so sorry, Adrian. That was her song, heard that that was her beat or her song and Lenny S like I played it for her, she loved it, but he played it for you. You never heard this story before. I've never heard that. Yahneak, you know sneaky. You know who sneaky called me about that record? Kid Cutty, What's that's the same way I around face? I'm like, your fab I did that joint with Ryan Leslie. I ain't got my credit on my money, Cutty bro oh on my line was just like he

was production. He was, That's what he was trying to imply. So I guess he chakes down and found my number or something and hit me up and was like, Yo, I'm supposed to have credit or money or something. Why would you hit Ryan Leslie. That's what I'm saying. You gotta relax, get you blocked it everything follow you. It's crazy. My god, I don't even know why you're calling me. It's not even my cold. H It's clear. It's clearly clear.

I'm about to go on stage right now. I made it better you and also, um, you make me better. That was Holes record. Yeah, I think they made it for whole, but I think it was too girly for Hole. So he makes some girly records. Now here's another sneaky thing behind that. Because I'll get it out. Let's go Eve had the record, Yeah, made the joint and she had a whole different make me better for Eve, I'm not sure up that fifth it was it wasn't make me better, it was make me better. It wasn't with

the hooking. She has a whole another song. She had to beat from Timberland and she made a whole different song to it. So when we're about to put it out, we found Timerland, like, hold up, I think I get that beat the Eve Eve got. We're like what so we hit Eva. But she was cool while she said she said truthfully like it's it was a single for us, this is a this is a goal. But for her she said it was like an album that she really

and she just you know. We went to dinner and she was like, yeah, y'all had a record and it's all good. I was like, m a new single right now, that's my catalog. Wouldn't make me better? And if now you need it, that damn that's like was not good man, that's a special brew. But the new single right now very uh acrobeatish international, international. What makes you want to go there? Because you can let me stop because you

have a format. This is this is It was in line with that, but you have a formative It's like it's like, you know what I'm saying, like a certain thing, this one is like huge, this is different. This is different for me as a fat fan. That's what it

really was about, to just really going different. Because if I would have came back with any record that's the usual what I even if it was breathed or it was make me better stop or like you know what I mean, Like anything in that vein Uptown val anything in that would have you already, it wouldn't have made the same like m hmm right, let me you know what I mean. I want to I want your eyebrows to twist up a little bit like it was. You

know what I'm saying. So that's where and it like how you just said we're moving on on out of country. It's it's it's time to move on. He was in Kate Berdie. Yeah, we went to we went to Africa. I thought Kate Birdie was in Boston. Come on, come on, you know what you know what I'm paying. You know doesn't want the Kate Bertie. Yeah, you know I'm played around, Yeah, because all the Kate Burdies. But I've never seen somebody going to Kate Verdie. I was like a lot of

the reasons I wanted to go there. Showed up the ankle bracelet too. That that was. But what made you go that's Black Sands. That's where you know. We gotta we gotta, we gotta touch it different. And you got the opportunity too. You got the you know, we got the label money. So we're going over on the major's let's pay some money for be on the major. This is this is Fabris one. Let me tell yourself. Fab is one of them smart niggers. Everyone else tried to

go independent. That's your personal Listen. He made the right choice staying with the major. Do not let these niggas you leave it. This guy's the only major dependent game for there. Not like it, fat fat. He likes to play the same rules. I like. When you're pulling up in the spratountain. It's a fucking beautiful thing. Pull up when you know, man independent, you gotta bunch it, you gotta watch, you gotta you gotta be responsible. Yeah, I

don't wonder who want to be responsible? Make it lay independent making some money some of the YouTube, but all not on YouTube. Bro, do not bank on YouTube, but don't bank on there. It's not other kids. I can't bank on YouTube. That's the new names. Noon Nimes can make money for YouTube. We seasoned. You know. You know what I have to notice about you though I'm probably like, I'm forty two. I don't know how I'm forty one.

But you know what I noticed people think i'm nine hundred HU because you know why I've been I've been out since ninety seven. I don't know I'm seven to you happy since ninety eight. I'm nick I have but and they look at family nineteen and they look at me like I've got your beard. I'll be like, they'd be like, because in your day, O G. I'll be like your first of all, it's not calling me so I called me OG because sometimes they call you O G and definitely, but they don't really mean it. They

just call on you. Oh we gotta reach the between. You're gonna tell you young niggers. Yeah, yeah, that is not always respect fad, But how do you because the one thing about you you always seem to to know whose next person is. And that's a that's that's a gift, you know what I'm saying. And that was that next person want to work with you? Oh? You know y'all hanging out in parties. How do you manage to be

that guy that can balance both worlds? Because you get respect from the holes, the naz Is, you know what I'm saying, the mab peeps to the point noriegas, and then you get loved from the new generation too. You have a ill balance? How do do do? What do you? How do you develop that? I don't even I can't even tell you a recipe, But I just think some somebody told me that I like bridge the gap between the two. Like I might have been, like, I guess

what you say. We're a senior, junior is in high school, and then you have like a sophomore and freshman. You know, so if if it's a senior and I'm a junior, I'm still in between, you know what I'm saying. I think um Cole just did did a song called middle Child, and he said he he little bro and big bro all at once, so that you know what I mean. It was like, it's like you bridged the gap between you know what I'm saying, between a younger a younger, uh,

the younger guys and the older guys too. It's it's it's no way that I could say that I landed or it's a certain way to do good. Yeah, it's just it's just something that just came with me. And and I respect, like you said, what you're talking about, all of you, I respect, you know, except for them calling you o G and trying to call you old. I respect all of the young shows like you know, misrespect,

But it's for you. I tell them my congratulations out you know what I mean, Like you know, it's niggers, you know. And even in our time, we would see sometimes they don't even say nothing to you. You know what I'm saying. I used to be an elevators with hold hold don't speak, you know. I just hope that's that. In New York it was definitely more Brooklyn Brooklyn, but it was like I'm not you know, when I came in, they were still trying to be the guy. So they

wasn't giving you the you know, the like. Then I had to fight, not really fight against them, but like I had to prove myself, I'm not going to a lot of people really in our generation didn't pass down the torch like they didn't none they really didn't like unless it was their man that they had signed and got everybody. You know, you're just right under the Rocket Feller treat. And then the crazy thing is people like that, like a lot of the old school dudes, you should

never give me love. Be like I'm talking about original. I don't want to say when I was number one. When I was, they was looking at me like I was a commercial dude, and I was like it would be like, like it doesn't matterly if I would have a commercial record like my heart ist pure, I'm hip hop, and they would and now they love me again. You know what I'm saying, because like with dream Camps represents and all this grade ship. But I'm being honest, he's

he's keeping it real. Was a lot of people thought that when you come up, you're dead in their money. You understand I'm saying, like you say that the passing the torture is that I think niggas still was so young that it wasn't no you know, it wasn't no path. I'm still trying to be the nigga. I'm still trying to be the man. I'm gonna give you the twy at now when you're forty or forty five or fifty or whatever you is ready to like because you ain't

even playing in that same feel anymore. If and I'm one, we still it is kind of in the same field. Well, I'm trying to get to where you at, and you know that I'm trying to get to where you at. You know what I'm saying, So you kind of like giving you the stiff on the iceman a little bit because you but you don't even gotta pass torches anymore. Really, I'm the saying the way the game is now like

everybody has their own lane. Like before there was like the labels the gate Kid, but that's because it was but who you knew, didn't somebody stamp you in? But now was like passing the torch now is like fab doing the record with Pop Smoke. You know what I'm saying, Like, not the record that doing it just with Drake or can you the was you know what I'm saying, When they when they Drake Hop doing it with or the

newer artist Hop. No, but when he did it with Drake. Okay, Okay, I'm sorry, I thought you made Now Okay, you've been back there. You did that first that was a that's a stand for drake, that's you're right, I got a whole verse. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Niggas want whole versus right now, and you don't. You don't think there's a different forty want or over, a difference between passing the torch and passing down like the history of

the culture. Like to a certain extent, I said this before, and I hold up before you said because when you were saying, like in the nineties or whatever, love but regardless, everybody in the nineties was still talking and showing love to the older cats. So younger cats growing up in in person no in music, yeah yeah, yeah yeah, But behind the scenes it was because when you were early nineties kid, growing up wasn't cool. You're listening to the artists.

We're talking about all kinds of ship that we didn't grow over. It wasn't our was always motherfucking coolest dude. He never looked at like certain of these other older dudes. They looked at me like I owed him something like. I don't know if I'm making myself clear, but they look like and not only I owe themselves, they looked like I was supposed to go like this, we're not seeing them, and in my mind I'm doing that. But I'm giving yo something. I dude, yo, man yo, I'm

a big fan of it. Like if I see how you're saying, that's why you wouldn't talk about it anymore on record, talking about what that's what I'm trying to say, your bipass. What I'm saying. People stopped talking about the history of the culture and records in the eighties early nineties. Everybody's talking about the Hurts, the Grandmaster Flashes, the clubs, that there was all the old soup, the history. So we thought that ship was cool, even though that wasn't

our generation. You're right, but picture how hard it is for me and fab saying, like if I was to go into to a record, I'm not big enough these old niggas, not because the old or whatever, because I'm trying to relate to the younger generation too. Yeah, you generation, I can't talk to you about cool herd. Yeah, my generation don't even know who that is. But you could talk about the generation a couple of years before that.

You were that you kind of grew up inspire. You could talk like j Z. Yeah, something like that came in Kane wasn't so you would never talk about him at all. No. I talked about him in my experience, but I don't want to talk about him in raps like you don't expect the people to grab I came out in in eight canes and the cane's actually window

was what. The only thing I'm saying is this laptop googles in eight nine And if you if you would say that the verse is what I'm The only thing I'm trying to say is if you would say to the verse, it would make a young cat say Kane, if he? If he, who then is can I think him saying that? I think him saying that, you know it's the same. Absolutely, Yeah, absolutely agree with that. I agree with that. That's not show them back. They're going old way. That's the difference in the world. Yeah, but

forwards needs back as well. Like we all we were all standing on a foundation or something that we're going back to VCRs. It's not that we're going back to We're going forward to where you're not even gonna need nothing to play now or what I'm saying. Like the kids and they're growing up into that, so they're not going to go back. They don't want to go back. The only thing they want to see is the future. You got to show them something that's that they don't

that's that's coming. That's why you can't even you know, you put out an album. Now, you can't promote an album for three six months anymore. No, they don't want to even wake that you're doing. Yeah, but everybody's got beyont though everybody's everybody's not everybody to be dropping a night. Yeah, but some people be trying it that. You might be honest, but it's the game and nigga's nigga. You are not no disrespect your your base just got to be solid

enough to do that. Yeah, you can't just jump out there and just say I'm dropping the night, but I gotta go to work them all, not like the basis like that they're not checking in attilatively. You got an October day or no, because this is about come out in November the first week. So because Summertimes Shooting says this is where we are sometimes shoot out three three in the motherfucking fall, have you see? This is what this was. The thing was behind that Summertimes Shootout was

never about making summer music. It was about coming out of summer. Now you either recapping your summer, you're looking at the summer to come, like you say you work out when you say you're gett a summer body, you work out in the window. The good of summing about any bore like and you recapping the the summer you you might be in September like yo. That was that was that was an ill summer right there, you know

what I'm saying. So that's what the projects were. They were really like recaps on the summer you just have or you know, thinking forward to the summer about to come. I never I never really did press about them because they were mixtapes, but so people never got it. They just seemed the world summertime and just thought it's like

summer music, you know what I mean. But mixtape albums now not Now I think it's blending and it's it's digested through the same way through through digital platforms and you know what I mean. There was a time where you know, it was that piff and it was even the streets it was that was a different mixtape lane how people got music. It was almost like underground. It was, you know what I mean, It's not undergrounding the production

wouldn't be a difference. Though, you don't think the production is different too, because like once Kendrick and Drake started making mixtapes, there they was, there were bodies of world original paction. You know, we was doing We was doing free mixtape remixing R and B joints. We was literally people, you know what I mean, You didn't have to clear anything.

Whereas you know once Kendrick put section eighty and you know the Drakes so far gone, those are those are different type of you know they classify them in the mixtape lame, but it was just a different different way they did it. What what what? What? Uh? What's fab? Is fab? Gonna put it on an artist's fab going up? I want to look to do that. I think that's only right. If you you come through the door, you hold a doorp and for somebody else, especially if you

see him coming. I ain't saying you post the whole the door for somebody or block away. You have ever held that thega take it mad long like you know what I'm saying. As the door one time when they stopped down and win and tie the ship like this, I saw that whole sta is like that's what you're doing that butt, But you know what I mean, you hold a doping for somebody like that's that's that's like one of the accomplishments because it's it's not even just

for you. You're doing something for somebody else, you know what I'm saying. So you get the feeling for that, like you know what I mean, I and everybody I think, and not only just you doing for somebody else. Sometimes if it's signed to you or doing it, it can progong your career and can take you to a new place because it's like, I'm so sorry. I think it did that for Wayne. I think I think Gucci Man is one of the goats where you didn't let a lot of them go all over that. But we don't know,

we don't know what that business consists of. I'm not don't I'm not saying that he didn't do business something to just know that you don't look at all of those people like it's a tree down there and he's can he's the root of the tree and a lot of them came from I'm not gonna lie to you. I thought about it the other day, and I think Gucci Man might be one of the greatest of all times from my land, as far as business, as far as how Selim and I just looked at it. I

was just like rebranding it, rebrand one part. One time, his brand was ice cream corner his face. Now he's back with a whole different Did he get I don't know. I know looking at him, I got it, took it away. It might be they still that you're looking at everything else he made it Forget about that. I see what chan online. You know you got crazy. You ain't even see see ice cream or your face and crazy chacking on. So I'm like, all of that is rebranding is ill,

you know what I mean? Why do you still love the game? Because I can tell you still love the game. I'm not gonna actually do you still love the game? He said? Why am I? No? I do love it? Okay, I love why because it comes to a certain extent where all life becomes repetitive, meaning we'll get another hit record, get another tour, or get another sentence set, and like you have to do something to upgrade. Like I've been in this game twenty years, you know what I'm saying.

So I've done the same thing over and over for twenty years, and at some point I stopped having a love for it like I did. Like, I don't know, I can't say that to you. I'm asking you, why do you why do you still have the amount of love that you have for the game. Um, I think my passion is so connected to it as a creative like a lot of the whole process of creating me me saying something and play it back for you and the kid behind you, like, oh, like I get I

get energy. All of that that that makes me feel good, Just the creative part of it, you know what I'm saying, Like, and then all the other ship, the business or you know, those are the things that can help you fall out of love with it because that's not what you ever loved from the beginning. So once that becomes more than you know what I'm saying, you gotta chase the bag. But are you and Clue still to like together? We're still, dude, We're still good. We're still I'm surprised you have like

a damn dad big momi. Oh yeah, did have it? Like just just Clue is a hard friend friends and hard rap I got a hard friends. Ye, he's a hard friend, not even because he's not a bad dude. It's just like he just Clue. He and his world and you know what I'm saying, Like he don't have one thing about Clue. I would say, he don't have no loss in the it's hard real ship less. Maybe like he was gonna leave your song or something like that. Yeah, I knew him then. I knew him there he was

on that time. But other than that, he not like Clue. You can leave a hundred thousand in front of him and go walking about. You know, he's been rich. He'd been rich for a long time, what I'm saying. And you gotta have to beef because you were down with Clue and Hot seven trying the front of you. Yeah, a little bit. What I and my flex relationship at

one time had got a little weird too. In case like case leg, I feel it's it's smoothed out of course, you know, over time and you know, but especially when Clues thing, it never got to like they felt. But they knew that that's my man, you know what I'm saying. So I guess they're like, you know, you can't play it too close because that's my man, you know what I mean. I wasn't and their their beasts wasn't never Like to me, it wasn't like a street beef or anything.

It's just a competition beef. You know, y'all in the same thing, y'all aiming for the same position, and y'all haven't you know competition. It wasn't friendly. It was you know, ny just talking about each other. And you know, but I never I never seen those two people where they

would have seen each other. No, no, no, never. But but I see the station's competing so much, like like like when I see Mvy hangout with comin on now, I'll be like god class because they were act like bloods and crips at one point, like like like like yo, you can't I sknew Envy in flex I never knew Camillo in flex At Yeah yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no, Camillo and Camilo Envy. Excuse no, it's not that they have beef. It's just that stations, stations they were they

were committed. They couldn't do the same party. And the thing is that fucked me up, Like you know, like I'm a Latino, Like honestly, I used being Latino so and I used being black too. You know what I'm saying, you gotta start being more Dominican. I'm talking out. Just stick to what I know. No, no, I'm taking Spanish classes. Listen, I'm also a Puerto Rican who speak and I ne're just sparing this album so a lot I'm out of. But but I just never too late for two years old.

Every who's been in our Spanish classes, so far as you come, make some noise to beeping to my friends, were gonna take boards boards like I don't speak, I don't know what you're speaking when you speak English. I'm not gonna have you teach me Spanish. But so it's never too late. But fathom tell me you gotta start saying you Dominican, because I see interviews with you and you say my father's Dominican, and it hurts Dominicans if we don't like that. I love Dominican, love Dominican. You

gotta say I'm Dominican. This is what you gotta say. That's it, that's what change you're like. That was some six nine shot right there. Keep that ship going because it just gets out here like it spreads like you just brought him up a little b and then you just came back and just brought something like No, I'm just saying you got this, d just do that? When when did you do? Know? How when did you get that? Saw an interview and there someone actually he said yes,

my father Dominican. And the thing is, you gotta you gotta say no. I'm man, and I'm just telling you. Don't have so many blocks following you. And I'm gonna tell you something. The Menneicans is emotional loyalist. And I didn't know how to fix everything, and yet all of my I went to gotta get us like he's gonna try to fix my pool and get us me too. Don't listen, don't get American me too. Listens listen. If you get mixed black and Puerto Rican, it makes it

Dominican anyway. Don't worry about don't worry about it. But I have my friends failed right, have my friend feel he's Dominican guy. Domericans like Pauls and let to take care of their friends. So I'm like, I'm calling my ship. Do you know the ship that's on the bottom of your pool? So I'm calling I need to get my ship correct. Where's this going? I lack. I'm going to

fix it. First off, scowl driving on ship. This is the thing that went down with no tools long and it's like I'm looking at my watch die star, like yeah, but what I'm trying to say. He died trying to fix my food. He almost sorry, Sorry that came out wrong. He kills Everyone looked at me like, we don't know this story. You know his place added this whole sex. He almost died, but you got so fat. I'm just being honest. I gotta infrech your Dominican side. It's okay,

it's a great thing. I promise you. You wanted Dominican speakers. He was on the Dominican Twitter for that, like three talking Bob. I seen Dominican news letter. They was like fabilous own and they were so happy. And then you haven't really wrapped from there. So I'm just I was in. I was in the Midican problem and everyone's dying, you know that where everybody's dying, everyone's dying. I was out there. They had a fabulous man. They need I focus really

get that money. Get that money. Listen and you want to spif TV album. You want spif TV album like that an album? Is that album? Right? Yeah? Sift? He told me he said he said he got weaks right cool? Um, yeah, told me because he puts you on the Dominican record. He's not even the Dominican records, you know, he's the Dominican Yeah. So, um, I think you're oh soon not. You know, that's like one of the biggest dudes album. He also got proof, but don't worry about that. Yeah,

you gotta rise, man. Yeah I said that. I don't know if I said this, but no, that's not the one that's on the record. Yeah it is. Let's let's go spip tv. Let's see. Let's see how this works out. Nobody, dud dude, dude, he's the biggest false. He's like, he's the hugest and you need to stop. Man, stop. Let's see what spip TV says. Okay, which one is it? What's what's the room that? Dad's all like, he goes to the other side. I've seen the video, brother, great

morning the room. Brother, Let's see a spip TV. Big you said you got edited? Try to store it? Yeah, how do you get edited into doing that? What moves you made that they can make you like? You don't ever seen what you can about the man? Oh wow, I didn't even know leh cool, he said. He said to me what you said when I said, I said, you ever seen because I actually didn't see it. I have somebody watching for me. Come on now, let the fun up, man, clear, he said, you watch that ship

because I have somebody watch your mom. Man, let's go to a commercial break. Let's go break. I know you gotta shout out somebody. I want to stay. That's gonna nobody, but back to back to the point, you know, break that span of side and basically Dominican side. Yeah, because because Latin people are serve lay you. I'll be honest with you that soon as we know that we know that. Hold on, hold on, let me ask, let me ask you lose on the fabular song, he texts me back,

have Dominican part of regain. I can't understand what the fuck you eating like like as a dent do Medican from my mother and my mother's side. We gotta say it, and you gotta give us Domsicans a chance of how we feel. We feel like you the number one Dominican right in the world. You know that's hard. That's hard. Let's make some noise with the number one Dominican. Go the world. That's hard. That is hard. Latinas will know no, no, no, they'll find out that you're Latino. That's a rat. Ye

had an art. She's to she's she's come on, come on, it's Felix's birthday and it's you know, it's going with it, like yo, de who the fund is Felix. She's like the cat will be calling to celebrate brother, to celebrate the philis the cat, the cat. So we just want you to know, welcome to the Latino society and the good thing about it. I'm like you you can be to You just got two days of the week. Yo. Black, but there's black Latinos. We're gonna keep correcting you with

this ship. I know. But you know what I'm saying, that little sonversation is politically shame Like I'm just trying to not get me to this. We already got me to. No. I gotta boy just turn them boy Dominican Day parade. But on one thing I gotta boycott, Bab. I know you was that is twenty one years Bab. You've been the same weight the whole time. Why you don't get you weight? And why are you posting pitchers of mac

and cheese. It sucks us bad. Looks like me to be like what the last fac keep posting Capperlini's and all all least you posted the You gotta stop posting food pictures. I think I gotta stop because we half for all the fat people in the world, like people who like it's terrible. We see skinny people that never gain weight post the carbs, and you are carbtarian, carbarian you beginning with but you're into the food right now. No, I'm just greedy. But I like I like trying different things.

I like seafood, so anything in that seafood family I funk with. But um, I like trying different ship. I like new restaurants, I like go restaurants. UM ran into you and then we ran into you in Mallible at Noble out there. God damn as a vibe though you know what I mean Malibu. I mean Noble was noble, but the Mallible joint is a vibe. You don't got the Mallible sort house member. No, Na, they let me in, but I don't got the membership. Maybe I shouldn't have

said that. I've never been what's still don't your face right now? Because a favor confused. I was totally wrong. You're not on a song total. I don't think I was on the song with that, But why it was on my song? Why did you send me this picture? This is weird. I'm just my movie. That's why I spip TV. I don't always cool. Man. Cops asked me about it. I want to be able to say, I don't know. I didn't see it. No base, no case, Yeah that's not I don't even tell me about it.

I don't want to. So what what was your favorite label you've been on? Um m hmm, or even your favorite CEO? I want to say. I gotta say, you know what I say, a lecture because that was just the beginning of my label career. I didn't even know what being on label was still a wrong made you felt very much at home. UM. I do love deaf Cham My my people, de Cham's um staff has changed lot, like the team and the people I've met. The relationships I you know, been involved with my def Cham years

has has really been cool and like something. You know, most of them don't even work there anymore. What we still have relationships. You know what I'm saying, that's that's what you know that your record label stint was deeper than just working. You know what I'm saying, Like, I still see a Shaunas and Margot's and Tech guys there. No, she did not there. I still have the relationships there with those people. You know what I'm saying that guys is that rock Nation Sports? Yeah? Man, I come from

that lecture. The lecture with Sylvia Sylvia wrong made me feel like like I was a baby at one. But so that was the first time and that's why I first met Jay Brown as well with rock Nation and stuff. Now with Electric, I didn't know that and he put me, there's not around anymore, right, I think like a Warner Atlantic. Yeah, that's that's that's Atlantic now because it was it was one Electric Attic and then they just merged into one thing. I think Atlantic or something like that. So who's your

favorite CEO? Who's who is your favorite? I would still say Um. I would still say Sylvia just when I got first my first connection and energy. Um, she saw she saw potential in me. Um. Earlier, you mentioned I was signing in the Scope, I was signed for them, and um, that's some clue was there who was at in the Scope and signed me with clues in print the Desert Storm Records, right yeah, if there's a storm

slash in the scope. And I had a crazy thing about that was my first record deal, and I had a crazy thing where they fired clue and let's go fired now. And it was a decision whether I was going to stay or leave a clue. And you did leave a clue. I did leave a clue because I just didn't know who who wanted to be up here? Like who want to you know who I'm staying with? You know what I'm saying. And that's a hard thing for somebody at that time. I was a record deal.

You you you as a rapper at that time, that was your goal. That was one of your set goals, get a record deal. So to get a record deal and then be asked do you want the record deal or not? And you say, all right, I gotta go out to roll or not. Really, it was just like position to me, like if you want to stay, you can stay signed and you know, finished making your album, or you can will terminate you with clue and then y'all gotta find you gotta find a new situation. That's

how you want to lecture. Lecture yeah, okay after a go Yeah, because we went back, we went back to just grind and mixtape wise and then um that led to a little moment Superwoman. At the time, it was a guy named Jimmy Cozy and who had a joint jow me there seven oh two had a joint with my girls that stuff like so those that grinding that I don't even know if it was like eight months to a year grind And after that label think because I had started the album one in the Scope, I

had started recording, I had started keeping a gangster. Some of them records had came from the end of Scope. Yeah. I even did a song with Little Wayne that had had never came out, A funny story Little Wayne, and they was so hot. They came to the studio. I think Steve Stout gave him Honey Graham for Little Wayne. Um out of your budget, Yeah, goddamn it, Scorchings, slash money and like nine nine nine nine in the too gave him a hunted They came to the studio or something.

They also requested. This is a they requested like I think four bottles of Chris Stop. I don't know what it was, but it was Chris, you know that was the line that was ace of that time exactly. So the four bottles is there were in the studio. We're thinking that, you know, four bottles of pressed me and they're gonna come in. We're gonna vive, drink some champagne. Wayne came in and did his verse in fifteen minutes,

stayed out, took the four bottles with him. That's like even that first time I even seeing something like that, I'm like, you're thinking in your mind, You're thinkings came in. Wayne recited it over the beating. It's like two three times they winning a booth came out too good bottles going right, I'm not gonna pop one. Or they didn't order the food they or the food on me? No, no you yeah, it wasn't there that long. I'm not gonna lae y'all. Let me tell you something. I never

knew you could order ham. I remember knew ham came on a pizza. Nas ordered ham pepper n sauce. Oh you know the Nigs ordered so much when I when that ship came, I was like, there's like want the slice. I said, damn, this is New York City. Don't let them eat none of this, you know what I mean? But uh, chez luis, Papa Chee. Let's bringing findian. Let's take a bathroom break back, like we never laughed for nothing but respect. Let's drink chance and motherfucker makes them

so fat. Let me ask you, um, was there ever like a dispute because you know we've heard you in the Coco Loso. When we've seen the Coco Loso, it's always be related to its fat um, Like was there any discrepancies of like were you and par for anything? Or like you know what I'm saying, because if we see that French had actually what is that called? What is French have? French vanilla? You know what I'm saying? Is there anything else? Is there something that works for

you and him getting together? We had a we had to deal that we was doing a lot of ploso. Thing was running but U it was for a certain time. It's for a certain you all drunk fat, So yeah, I see this. A rockheads came out the door crack puff being a crack at the door. But now we had a term in term ended and you know, just kept it, kept pushing because I want to straight in the room. Man, this is the room. I want to straight. We was on drink Chap before me, you Jay the Kiss,

and I seen you had a press run. My partner wasn't there, so I said, what can I do to make our interview different from everyone else's? So it was me who invited Puff. I called Puff. I said, Yo, please, this is this is gonna make the difference from me from everyone else, from Jada Kiss and um Fab and they're on a press run. We can't have our ships look the same as everyone else. So I invited Pop. This is what I felt happened in this situation. You correct me if I'm wrong, But I feel like Pop

came in. I feel like y'all don't see each other for a minute, and I feel like he came in, and I thought, oh, he thinks that you were doing parties with a vodka company. And when he says to you, um, we don't party no more, he's saying like he's saying like, oh, you think he's throwing a sub or something. No, no,

because that's what people who thought. People thought that. When I thought I heard that, people was taking it funny because he said, no, I want a party, party, party, party, And that was that little people like that she was crazy, and I blame you because I didn't tell him that he got a relaxed right there at the party. You didn't know you don't party party. Yeah, I didn't know it though, Like I was actually you know what it was. I was actually paying um like I was little Tess

was falling asleep, right, you know what I mean. I was like it was an l a to right. This is like the most viral movement. He was dead right that she was crazy. This is how I took it. So I couldn't go on the internet and be like, yo, that wasn't no Flate ship, Like yeah, I couldn't do that because they're not going to answer every single body. You know what I'm saying. I think the revote play was a major factor. What do you mean because you yes,

But I just want to straighten that out. Like for people who think that now I was on vacation, yeaheah, I was on vacation. I just I said, what the funk, I'm in the late jaiten fab, let me pull the stream. I'm not gonna lie. When that ship went viro on the wrong way, I was like, I'm kind of glad. I wasn't there. Yeah, yeah, vacation when no I was dead, I would listen. I was trying to I'm gonna be honest with the points where I had to pull myself

out the equation. So the points where when he said the party party thing, I looked and and and fab looked at him and said, nigga, you were came to my party. And then when he said no, how part party, what I'm thinking in my mind is that's why the coco low so like you'll come, let's let's let's let's do a different campaign. That's what I'm thinking, right to me, But the world took that as a different thing. You was there, what did you feel like? Party? Party was favrant?

But it didn't feel like that. That's why I say your intent versus perceptions. We go back to that again. He might have not even meant it that way. Yeah, I don't sitting there watching Jing Champs and you see Puff with the shades on saying no, but we're on party part when you ed like that and you ended it like, what do you mean? I didn't watch it? You know what I mean? Watching it is different from me and the being I catched it. Yeah, why didn't need it. I would have been like, you gotta relax.

That's why I said, That's why I blamed you, because you watched it. You was then watching that no go Yeah, when I'm in something, I'm not hitting it. I'm not hitting it till outright. So like afterwards afterwards, one of they watched like, no, they stop that. It's that how nigga niggas got us niggers took it, and they ended it so good, and I'm like, yeah, you gotta look in an arrow where it's like when we're on party party. Yeah, yeah, I could watch that as aging the person snow they

just ya dog. Yeah, And I'm not gonna lie. When I saw that piece the way they didn't look crazy, Like there was one dude and I was like, yo, I wanted to pick him up. I really did. Yeah, yeah, there was a couple of it was yeah yeah, yeah, because listen, yeah, motherfucker's icon pop icon. Uh. I've always I've never seen this thing that people be saying about you. I'm saying, say the way they go viral, you know your icons? Yeah yeah, definitely, definitely definitely, So fly let's

take it to you. Let's take it to you because Fab just told us, Um, he threw you under the bus and in your face. He said that you broke on the franchise boys. Yeah, that one of the bus. That the bus. Now you know I was playing that was the best life. So and then and then when I said the Little Kim album, I have distinctly looked at you and I just need to act because that was flapping and I didn't. You did Nicki Mina's podcast recently?

I like that what happened happens breakdown because you are filiated the two of the biggest artists in hip hop, Little Kim, female art. Excuse me, thank you. We don't know what happened was as far as work, um like you and Nicki squashing it. Yeah, we said, I don't talk business. I just don't know. I went to l a UM, I got a podcast actually code out myself call that suffend me whish means facts. Look at that. Look at that. So we told you gotta relax. He

couldn't give. We got a podcast that we got, so we sat down. It was it would be like a business movement a sense. But I had, um, we are talking bly doing like since like last year. But we don't got together. So um, she was like, oh, you

can't cut on my rail show. And I'm like, oh, we're not even we gotta we gotta sit down in a few weeks there and at first business Wild before we can sit down, and we know, briefly was just going back and forth for a couple of months and tomp, you know, we could get together and I went to l A. We sat down and you know, I did I did that podcast Queen Radio Apple and she did mine. She did she didn't mine as well. I just never released it, but she didn't mine nor. It was interesting

about that. This though, he's got a relationship with a little Kim too, but you know, relationship is so like but he's still he's got a deep connection to Nikki as well. You know what I'm saying, Like it ain't like he who side weird little that's not a side, not a side. I love Kim to devils never you know, it's talking about these likes. That's a you get a long time. Remember you told us how to steal jackets y'all? Yeah, with my friends, Yeah you do on plane, Yo. That

was the hardest ship told me that story. That was the hardest ship. But let's say we can't go to Yeah, let's stay focus. Supposed you get locked up right now? Because so how how how is that being cool with both? Why they're supposed to be both at odds? How do you balance that? I would never um, I mean, me and Nikki say down, because we got a history that goes back, you know, the beginning of our career. And

she couldn't disrespect Kim to me. So at the end of the day, it was a regular saying about me and her. It wasn't about with Kim, and I wouldn't let it. I wouldn't let it be about Linka. So me, I was sitting down, you know, I was acting to get my business together and try to move on and you know, show my growth. So it wasn't a off you. I didn't take that as nomalge because I didn't go there were nothing against little Kim not saying a little Kim have I felt a way about that because little

Kim is real a very loyal person. So she she you know, like y'all were talking about earlier about and you're standing over the corner or somebody got befoot and I'll come to spray if you were in that corner, you might get shot to her get after them with the car nowledge, So analogy still come from the streets. Say that what another one? Let's go give them to let me get three. Yeah, my knowledge is come from shootouts.

But but so you balanced. Yeah, I thought I got balanced, But I could have did a little better than what I way. I did it, and nobody know I was doing it. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't get him from though. I didn't. I didn't like I don't nobody I ain't know before I asked. I could have asked a couple of friends. I didn't thought about it, but I wanted my heart like, let me get just go ahead and you know, and I see what sure you're talking about, and see we can first and move on

from where I was at. I'm I'm stuck in the stage, stuck at twelve years back, like I ain't talking shortly in twelve years when we ain't had many more twelve years. So let's see if we can get past this. And we did. That's dope. Man pick him to pick him to the man up to you down, salute, salute. I ain't a triple who was squashing swashing, squashing beavers and bart who's your man? You gotta squash the leaves north clad. I'm supposed to be savy day. Thank you. I'm making

nobody else wants to wait till your answer. But it means you know it's crazy. I'm gonna be clear. You know what FA takes because this is crazy my software. Thank you for asking me that fast. What do you ask? You just said, I'm not in the squats to be Let me tell your son. I don't want no beef with nobody. I've been through it all, and I'm gonna tell you what I've been through because if you don't know, then you don't know. I kind of stuff talking about

like in the past. Not yeah, I'm always sposed to be in the past too. I scarpsed to be in the past to everyone the street and street squash on the public platform? What do you mean like on the broadcast on a TV show and radio station, like its own your own head. That's not beef if you had to squash it in there, Start to come to that something I've never really I've never really had like real public beef, I mean had public incidents that happened the

public beef. We're back and forth. I mean no, not not really. I've had one or two, you know what I mean, but not really like what you do if somebody else. No, I got caught before, but I can't no more. Like right now in my life, I'm very happy. I'm married. I love going home to my kids. I love going home to my family. I would be irresponsible for me because it's not me that's gonna have the war. I'm not gonna be in the hood. I'm not gonna

go to your hood. It's gonna be my my niggers, And what the fun when when my whole plan is to take them out under the hood. I don't need that. So I don't want to be for nobody. It's not a particular person. It's not and I'm not pussy, but at the end of the day, I'd rather just be I'd rather be the man that that my wife loves to me to come home to. You know what I'm saying.

I'd rather be that dude like to me as I'm forty two years old, Like, I really don't have nothing to prove to nobody, Like I adn't deal with disrespect, but feelings I can't deal with it. I can't deal. That's the thing is I still get caught because if you say, if you say something to me, I'm gonna say something. But that's not the that's not the thing. The thing is like because I don't think I'm a whold right, And the thing about it is, come on, let's do I can. I got one more life. I

don't think I'm hold right. But here's the crazy ship about home watches everything. Like everything I ever do, the nigga will send me up a message or something and be like, so when you say, I'm like, damn, listen, niggas a billion there. If he's watching, that means that every hopefully every people out there's watching the same as that ship. Like Drake call the other day, he said

that like Drake called, he called. He called Elliott because me and um Elliott sat here and we went back back and forth, and that that's that's dope to me because when the hip hop generation is listening because we said, yo, listen and I want to tell you to your face, thank you fat because we know that you have an upcoming um project coming out and this might come out. Actually the project came out. But the thing is, i hate you. I said, you're fat, hurt you in Miami,

so let's make it happen. That's a man of his world. I respect that, like I've really, really and you know what, every time I ask you to be on the podcast, you always said, as long as I got something to promoting. Ay, and to me, that's all, that's all I want you to do. It's like, when you have something to promote, come funk with us, because at the end of the dayn't even just the promote side, because it's not we ain't promoting that chicking it. I need to be let me,

let me explain what I'm trying to say. Sometimes in our generation, like you're important, fab Like, let me just say that to you. You're important, Like you know what I'm saying. That's the reason why you get booked, you know at the three sixty five days a year, I sincerely believe you can get booked three hundred and fifty other you know what I'm saying. Let's make some noise for that, you say and the other fifteen days because you want to take off, you know what I'm saying,

and that and that's dope. But the thing is, it's important. It's important is what you say. I don't know what you have some Brooklyn ship going on. Let's just your hold on, hold on some brook take hod dates. Yeah, but so it's important for you to sit down with your own coaching. You know what I'm saying. It's the day for Halloween. I ain't taking because I wanted my family we do that. I'm not gonna lie. You really dressed up on Halloween, so I thought you was playing

like the first year seat you on Instagram. First year, it was the shakiest year for me because you like you was like it was like the first year. The first year he was drafting was No. I'm trying to think if it was the Adams family or the like Batman Batman. You did like the Batman villains. I'm not sure. I'm not and it was the first one at him Batman, but battle, I ain't gonna lie. You make me feel like I gotta grow off. I'd never dressed up for Halloween.

I gotta grow fast. You look at me and telling from me, Yeah, because I guess I guess you crossed that that Bridge and my wife kids' party costume was a costume party, like a big party right now and I know, I use yours excuse now, No, I'm not. I'm gonna cheeseburger baby, and we're gonna see y'all story. We had that story. You're like, cam got camp excuse me, carry y'all got damnitendy. So it's not you booking all these shows? They keep by bro And what's the name

of your podcast? Don't let him turn you in six nine shot him by himself. You can do a small shot. But what's your podcast that's offending? We did? We did stablish that. I knew that already. Let's go podcast already. So who's you disabute? You? Ring champs? I actually talked to about it, but I'm thinking, no podcast, you don't know me. I'm actually talking about it. But you know, are you talking about about television show? Television? We can't

control the whole podcast? Yeah? Too much of that. It's too much. You got two got you got nick knowledge, You're ready the first first interviews, your second liviewr come from. If we just second, remember Duan, you remember your niggas was the corrupted niggas. I haven't met the story. I just told you some of the guys I was telling you're gonna put me on get your license. He got me an he no, he got me a permit. Excuse me, he helped me get a permit. Shout to he's still

getting money. Yo, let me do. Let me say. Those were the two aut niggers York City at one point they had everything like you can go to another and say, Yo, listen, friendI do qualms. I need call it here. Fright would remember the boyd ship was back to the night, he said, would the ship? Yeah, Like, I'm gonna call Sack. How the fun you who't already? And I just went in question this book the niggas, Yeah, he niggas was different. And I'm gonna tell you one time. This is the

one time I think I killed Hold on stage. How that Jamaica. Damn the White Knight, I think I killed Hope gonna watch this. He might call me and be offended. So let's just stuff. Let's be clear. Do you remember that night? It was just bad? So what was your take? You think you got over that night? Absolutely? This is the only night. I don't got a lot of these nights just because I got wanted this, but I night

ja make it was just birthday. So he came and he ordered like christouts like mom mc we alredy have bread stripe red strip I was like, and I went on and findy wasn't my height? Man? You remember that. Yeah, he's sweating tig about right now. But you got me. I know your Brooklyn side is not that you admit you know. I think that night Jim ain de free No, when I see what came on? Oh yeah, we was out there. Okay, okay, we was camera on and Jim Joe.

That's a couple of times too. Let's be clear. Let's be clear, let's be click, cause I was gonna roll with him. Goddamnit, goddamn good. It's nothing that it was the fool to be old ship. Someone's at my house on come on, hello, your brain turned on? Hello, this show? Oh foods delivery. I let him out. It's probably my son. He's a greaty thing. Non put him up in the front of the crib. Yeah, were fat. Let me just tell you something, man, I really appreciate you being a

man of your word. Every time I've seen you, you like you don't know what I got you. I was like, damn all right, I got you, man. And every time you had some movement you came to see me and this time pick up to our rockster roster see me a flyer, and I hit you direct and just said, n let's go. Yes we do. Let me tell you something. Let me keep picking them up before we get up. About the six nuns. Yes, yes, more fabs and less six nins. A quick question, I'm in Chick nine get

released next week. Yeah, it's definitely. He wants to I'm in, But I'm gonna tell him to his face, I don't like you like now, but you shouldn't even say that. It's not personal. It's not personal with him. You can't say you said that Union fan. Yeah, we helped it a different standard. Yeah, but I don't think we should have him on the platform. I think me personally, I would tell him I don't like you. He's gonna have him on the Norri podcast. No, yeah, it's gonna be it.

Listen you know why, because the thing is with this, see doing a doing a song with you, I feel like that's why I was that disagreeing earlier. Doing a song with you. I feel like that's co side of you, doing an interview with you. I don't feel like it's side of you at all. I feel like I'm just talking to you. I can talk to I talk. I talked to um. But you know why you're talking to skin heads in the skin heads. I talked to k k ks now. But you can't and you can't about

you have legends here. That's why you can't say no, no, no, no, no no. That would be clearly chasing about that same interview with no cameras. No, it's not gonna happen. You're doing no and he had to come that's not gonna He would have to come here and fail the same thing that everyone else felt. And I would tell him to the space. I hate snitches and I went to jail for three and a half years four snitches, and

I don't respect you. But if he can handle that, and I'm gonna get a sick right here, I'm on a vacation that no problems. You can't get platform, you can't, you can't give this part. No no, I'm saying, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. If Saving the Bull wants to come here, I would tell Seving the Ball I disagree with you. I heard Saving the Bull tell nobody know seven it's a different culture. It's a

different culture. That's that's how I watch your ship. Ain't going ain't going to take from Sammy the Bull the way, And we didn't talk to Sammy. We had a seven who wanted to start a podcast. We actually that's the old total of error. I think it's a different thing, man. Yeah, man, listen, listen. I probably wouldn't, right, But if I did interview six nine, I would sit. I would tell him I did three and a half years of my life. But niggas like you. I don't like you, I don't respect you, and I

really don't want to talk to you. But I'm gonna let you talk, and I'm gonna dispute everything you say. I'm gonna refute everything you say to me. That's not that's not a problem to me. That's to me. Now if you tell me not, don't give him a platform, then that's that's something totally different. Want to do a pot platform and try to justify way which is true. And the reason why he can't testify it is because

he said gang gang. Once you say gang gang and you say that, then you have to apply at what he's saying. To the people who watch it, didn't they make their judgment if they want to accept what he's saying or not when you give him that platform. And by the way, I'm not co signing him. And that's our kids. Like you said, they don't come from the same moral codes we come from, so they might look at it and really be like Nons was going for me ten years O did it too, you know what

I'm saying, Like they come from a different right. My son don't live in that world, very postal. I'm working hard so that he don't have to so so so so you come home when your son is banging the new six nine. No, my my son knows since and he's like man six knins a snitch, my son said, without me telling him. And you know, you know what's the fun part about it this since six nine snitch every day I listen to his music though while he was swerving, and I know that might be a Bulty

record or I know abilities on that. Then you know, I love a bulky you know what I mean. But the thing is the radio station did not pull that record when we had to shoot out of any seven our records was pulled that that record not next week. They didn't have to have a million. They said, shoot out from the Howdy seven, pull them motherfucker's records, but never got the incident in the radio station. Yeah, that's

a different This is a different thing, different things. What I'm saying is I'm saying is the sincerity of the situation made them pull my record immediately. I'm telling you, the sincerity of the situation did not make piece people pull that back. I think the worstness means less now than it did years. I think the worstness now means it could be a part of the culture to some people. It wasn't say y'all called I called poll looking out. But it's something where it is it is it? It wasn't.

I don't know what he said. Y'all call it snitching. I'll call it pole looking at So that's the mentality that you know a lot of people are taking, like you know, I ain't snitching. I just don't want to do you know what I mean. I'm trying. They don't have that in They stayed and I'm not. I'm not following this code that I gotta stick to. Uh. But it's deeper than the cold. It's deeper than because because sometimes the decision it was involved you. That's that's what

it is. That's crazy. You wouldn't be I'm gonna be honest. Even when I interviewed Troy App and I don't want to put them in the same category, but if you really watch that interview as a steep person, I didn't. I asked them every which way question it was supposed to be asked. You know what I'm saying. But the thing is this, I think, is this what people got to stop doing. Is people already accusing Troy App but being a snitch when he actually didn't take the stand.

He said he put out a rap little finger from the stand. He never took it. Yet that's what made it is gonna take the thing you said? You told me that, he kind of said he he kind of said, why whatnot? Because the other nigga is that's what six nine did though six nine same day, what you mean?

What you mean? Six Knights? The same thing. Every there was already investigating the whole six nine who before he got locked up, so somebody already wouldn't told him, and they wired the cars up and all that before six nine even got in any trouble. Everybody, when somebody was already working with the police. So I'm pretty sure they came to him and to day who did who was such a such that he was like I don't know him. Maybe he was like I don't know him, and I

was like, oh, you don't know him. What are we playing this day for you? You know what I got read there is you. You're right here with him. That's the best work. Defend that asked you a question, they got answered for ready, So I can't say in turn you because you got more instance, Yeah, they got you had the corporation from that made it right. For got something ready, like when he's saying they got something, but they they got you into something they got, so now

you turn to get them to get more more. The whole operation it's like wire tap and you say something on wire tap and then they actually you say you say no, they play it back for you. Say. And the Frank Lucas ship and the movie they caught his nephew or something because he shot his girl in the ass or something like that, and they brought him and said, all right, we know you. We got you for shooting this girl because we were staking at your house. But if you don't want to go to jail for this.

You can talk about this over here, and that's how that's how they get you because you don't want to take the thing for what you did. You want to take the responsibility for that. Frank Lucas nepheople. They not give me the fucking give me the three years, the five years, but you got I'm not going to But niggas don't want to take that. They don't want to take the responsive maybe for what they look I don't want to take six months. They definitely And you've got

a rock chain, fat, but you're not technically rock. That was gifted to me on my birthday, on my forty and birthday. I told you I always felt like I was under the rock family treat. I've launched my rock chain. Okay, yeah, how did you do that? Because I'm high, I should take a I just take a heavy amount of ecstasy at one point. But let's not talk about that right now, because I still at some point you're spoken on. But

we don't have to dwell. I'm gonna be honestly, at some point, I still take a little dad like everything. It's not it's not often, but every now and a little base, a little base gotta take a little bit and say it for later. That's what happened with puff one of the party like mine. Man, you're fat. Man. Let me tell you something, Man, finde man. Both of

your brothers, Man, your brothers. I know both of your individually separately, I said individually, separate all, So I know both of your individually separately, and I know y'all together, and I know you'll together. And you know what, I want to say that, I'm proud of both of your brothers, man, because so many people in this industry they give up or they go the other way, and they become bad people, and they become haters, and they become You guys always

been at the top of your game. You guys continue to just you know, continue to just monkey foot this ship and just push through the doors, and you continue to make money every f fucking five, six days a fucking week. And I'm watching y'all and I'm counting your money and I'm happy. I'm like, they're not with us like that, But I just want to say that that, man, if there's anybody that never told y'all, man, what you're doing is you're doing is the right thing, and continue

to do what you're doing and feeding y'all family. And I know sometimes you miss you know, Christmas Is and Thanksgivings because I've been there. I've been there for fifteen years. Uh you know, so no, no, I don't miss all the way. I'm listening to be honest, I'm gonna call you this holloway because I'm I'm I'm I'm gonna have you get my family right, because you know what I'm saying. I'm gonna be honest on the loan, Like in my mind,

I've been trying them. I people wanting to call you for years to help me with my stylus because I've never seen you with a bum outfit and I'm kind of mad, like like like no, no, no, listen, listen, family got to have a bump day, Like one day you're gonna come out. You want to come out with the quartet like Cortex. But I've never seen you have a bump day. You man. You know, like you said, we we we come from the same neck at it Woods.

We have a genuine respect for each other. Even though he um you know his podcast is supposed to be me and him. He spent off Still my ni, you know you need too much money your hon't. I didn't want it. I'm gonna get but it's never too late. It's too there. You guys just started the body drink responsibly. I wanted to daruma to that question you asked, fat was his favorite CEO? Okay, who was your favorite CEO? U? Well, well, my favorite CEO over the time has been Nil over

the time, times over the time. But my favorite ceo, like like, there's Leo coins, there's no there's no dude that he just embodied the boss what's the name one of the do my thing with Leo? Ever, he never I came over you know where he was even when I came over to the Atlantic was Electromergeny. I never got the jil, I never got the deaf jam jail

from him. We were into a Yankee game. But it just didn't like he didn't he didn't you know what I'm saying, And I was I was looking to mess because of course, Bot, I'm under your class, le all Cohen, I'm in great, great seats at the Yankee game. We just ain't you know what I'm saying, Like he didn't give me that what's the name? I know his relationship with old No, it was probably it was this is

it was probably you because yeah, i'd be cool. I'm cool and laid back, so especially at that time, I mean he probably wanted more on you, like because when you that's the type of person he was like this, I'll just tell you. I described something to I know, we gotta get our produdt of here. But I remember I became so hot like around the freestyle and Leo called me and said, where are you at? And I said, I'm the video shoot. He said I'll be there and he just hung up, pull up. He never asked me

where the video shoot was. And to me, when he pulled up, I knew automatically I was signing the depth jam because he didn't ask me where. He didn't ask me what barrow, he didn't ask me, are you in New York? He just said I'll be there and he just pulled up. But again, fab bendy man, because they keep waving. I don't even know what that means. Yeah, yeah, but don't ye man. Let me just tell y'all. Let me just tell y'all. Just tell y'all man, y'all both

great brothers. I'm glad that your brothers are together and and and getting money. You know, I'm very proud of of of of y'all growth. I'm very proud of the man that you turned into fab not not not because I can't be your older brother one year older than you, but you know in hip hop im your older brother, but not in life. And I just I see, you know the growth that he's been aways got older brothers out of one year older. Yeah, I know, I know, you know I'm gonna letthers. You better give me the

old want yo. But I want to thank y'all. I want to thank you for being a man of world word. I want to thank you for Finny, for always sticking to the to the script and sticking with this game. So many people was in your position. They quit, they got out this game. They have motherfucker working in the Larzy map right now. I'll take my cleaners to these things and tell him no creases found. It's not Rick. But I want to thank y'all. Come on, let's take some pictures and that