Episode 180 w/ Master P

up is d J e f N? And this motherfucker drink chats? Motherfucker? Yeah. Max. When we started this show, we said we want to get people. Uh they flywer's while they can smell them. They treats while they can hell them. They thought it's what they can think of,

and they drinks where they can drink them. We also want to salute a legends, legends and people who've been in this game for ten years and more, because so many people when we when you're in this game, after you have ten years or more, they want to say

you washed up or say you old. But there's people out here that's out here flourishing like the person that we're talking about right now, from Calio Projects to Richmond, California, selling out his own his own trunck of his car, showing making other black people and other entrepreneurs successful, independent, laying it down. This is the first we was coming from New York. We didn't understand, like this guy, who is this guy with the ice cream dropping on all

this and he kept He's still relentless. He's still out here giving people their flowers. He was mentoring from people like Nipsey Hustle to Kodak Black. He has so many Artists's dropped so many albums. I remember going broke one year because every year, every week then they dropped the album and goddamn the hell can keep up? And if the case, you don't know who I'm talking about, motherfucking master. By the way, I don't know if you know, you're

one of my favorite entrepreneurs. I appreciate it, like where you come from and how you orchestrated what you did. I believe you even had baby on here and he he gave it up to how much like he had to look at you first because you was the first one to do how did you developed like that independent mindstate when you not? Grew up in the project with live with my grandparents, so they had twelve kids in the house. Me and my brother made fourteen, so sixteen

people in a three bed room project. And I'm like, whatever I do, I gotta make some money that we all could eat, like I couldn't just have no regular job, like I've never had a bed until I went to college. People don't know even though I come from the streets. I played basketball, Basketball got me to college, came back home, hustle after that, got hert did what I had to do, and from there I said I'd never be broke again. I go back to that type of life and I

got to get out and do something. I got a hustle, I gotta grind, and when I got an opportunity, I said, I don't want to live like this no more on the streets. I gotta do something legit. And that's how I got into the music business. After watching Little Jay uh people not went to Houston University of Houston, played basketball over there, and I've seen Little Jay walking there from rap a Lot Jay Prince, I've seen him walking the club I was in with a main code on

flying I said, man, what you do? So that was so j principal inspiration you Yeah, yeah, you know Uncle Luke, Uncle Luke from Yeah, I've seen that. Like them being from the South, everything was about the west in the East Coast. And I said, man, if my my hustle, I got the hustle for the South, and uh, nobody new about New Orleans at that time. And and I just went hard by me living in Richmond for a little while. I got a chance to see Oakland in

San Francisco, seeing how they hustled in the Bay. Because man, my o G was St Charles he forded, so he showed me the game. And when he showed me the game, I took it back to the South and uh, you know, my home is in Richmond. Man, I love him. I respect them for opening doors and me they was. They was on a grind. Man. You had you had guys like JT. The bigger figure you had uh rbl Posse had this guy named herm Luke that really was out there, you know, with the E Fordis and the two shots.

And I had a record store, you know, not nineteen years old with a record store yours. I always thought it was a family member here, but it's actually it was yours. You opened yourself. I was too young to have it. My my people don't know. My parents was still in New Orleans. But you had to be twenty one because you know, you sold the like the naked movies and stuff the record stores back then. So I opened the store. Always tell a guy to distribute. I said, man, look,

I'm picking up the music from my daddy. So he always give it to me, you know. So I was I made it happen from there to where I did that on my own, you know, and it was a family then. It took a couple of people. You know. I had a good team. So how old are you when you opening? Nineteen nineteen when I opened the record store, So yeah, I had. I had everybody coming through there from Tupat too. I mean every artist from the Bay then came through that stoke. And that was in Richmond.

That was in Richmond, Cally first I've seen it when I first came to Richmond. I've seen a stoke called Jones and Harris. But they sold they sold H, R and B in gospel, and I said, man, ain't got no hip hop in here. Nowhere I found. I found a little spot, open it up, you know, and went from out to where I like invest my money into it. That put I had ten grands from my from my grandfather settlement and just man invested back in the stokes,

slept in the stove till I made some money. So people always think you gotta have a lot of money. You don't have to have a lot of money, you know what I'm saying. I had really nothing, Like I went in the deal what I need to do, a lot of visions. Like every I tell people it's a power of words, so you know, you speak negativity and negativity to come. I said, it's gonna be no limit to my success. I named myself master because I'm a

master what I do? You know what I'm saying, And I will give back to my community about making it's funny because that's about next question I was actually my first question was did you ever receive like flag from calling yourself master? Like you know what I'm saying, Like you know, um, you know because I get what you probably when you was coming from like the masters of the the music, but you know the word master, like you know when we think of every end and the same.

I mean when you had masters golf slave. What I'm saying, well, you know sometime in life, man, like I said, I just I was looking at it as just master. What I was gonna do, you know what I'm saying, Like whatever I do, Like yeah, yeah, Like you got to be an expert at whatever you do to win. People don't understanding business. You know, you have to be an expert the ones who gonna win. Okay, so you're from Richmond, California, your brown brown but you said you're gonna start your

label in New Orleans. You said you want to go back. And now now you had me an ex you had Kana Labor, you had Skulled Dougar, you had these people or you so. But the store was already called No Limit, right, Yeah, the store was called No Limit Records. So it was a retail store. And so when I got into the music business, the four priority it was before pragud and I end up. So people don't know that I had a deal. At first, they offered me a deal with

Jim matt Been. It was a million dollars deal because he was already up already. Yeah, because this is the beginning that that was the beginning. They had Sugar and Puffy at that time. They say, if you signed this deal with us, then we'll have the South We had the streets. And I was in there with See Me and See. You know she would like take the million dollars. Yeah, my brother say take the million dollars. I say, no, man, I'm gonna go get some lunch. I told. I told Jim,

I'm gonna get some lunch. I come back. He said, if you don't come back, you'll never get a deal in this time. So I left me and See on the plane about to fight. Were on Southwest Airlines. Ain't got no curious What did you eat for lunch? Even peanuts in the coach? You know what I'm saying, I'm next. Now I'm next to see it. He he man, because he want to take the money's you know what I'm saying, Like, Bro, if this white man offered me a million dollars, he

don't know me. How much you think I'm working? You know what I'm saying. That's when we just got quiet and said, man, it's going back to the project and do what we gotta do. And I just start selling CDs like the trunk of my car moving from city to city. You know, I went to New York to Chicago, to Texas, everywhere, you know, pushing CDs where those bloods and crypt I mean, win one neighborhood in Arkansas, I got a I got a blue shirt on. It's a

blood neighborhood. And they say, what you're doing? I said, man, look, I'm from Louisa and the dog. I'm selling CDs twenty hours. He said c ds. Man, you you can't come back with that shot. I said, Man, I ain't know, bro for real? Man, he said, well, how much do you say? Said man? He said, man, I got ten. I said give me ten, manot give me. You know what I'm saying. So that's how hold. I was putting the posters on

my own. Man, you know, I get this. I was in New York and Hallam and uh, I'm putting up a poster. The dude said, man, that's you. I say, no, man, we're all looking like so because I know if I paid somebody, they was gonna just s throw my posts away. Like I couldn't compete with like a big it was just too big. They was everywhere. So I'm like I had to go do this one and I shoot dice. I'm I'm in I'm in Brooklyn shooting dice playing basketball.

So I beat I beat him in basketball and make a couple of hours and I shoot bags and I'm back in my car and I sell C d s and head back home. So that's that's really how like New York really start taking told of me from the South because they really wasn't listening to Southern Hill. But we will always um and I'm from New York so I can say this. We will always run into recollabels. So it was amazing to see a person like, you know what I'm saying, and here that you have like

a seventy thirty or twenty deal. My friend Dave Winer from party, he was that strange I had said he signed made it a strange And he was telling me about when he first came across you and he had to go back to the labe and he's like, yeah, we can't just give this guy a normal deal. When I first seen Day one, man, I thought he was the police. He coming up, So I really, man, I could have been made you know, two years before he came back there in Holland that I call one of

my falls. I said, who that is? Five? He was like, I don't know, man, I said, man, he kept coming looking for him. He'll tell you. So he come back up trying to give me a couple of a couple of years and I'm like, man, look, I finally say, man, you know you keep coming back and who was you? Man, I'm from Proud the Records. I said, Man, come on, man, what I knew? I was like, all right, And I told him, I said, people don't know. Sometimes you got

to invest in yourself. So I went to Michael Jackson Atturn. So you gotta everybody wanted to be in the music business, but you need to know your business at that time, the business of the music. Yeah. So I went to Michael Jackson was the highest paid entertainment at that time at a record and I said, uh. I went to his attorney. He said, Man, if I'm gonna sitting on, which is gonna coach you? Twenty five thousand dollars. That's attorney told you. That's his retainer just to sit down.

Sit down. I can't afford this. Still, Yeah, I'm sorry, So I give him the twenty five I wouldn't sit down with me, say man, look, the only way you're gonna get a deal bigger than Michael Jackson is a distribution deal, and it's an eighty five fifteen deal. But then you're gonna have to come up with about two

hundred or three hundred thousand dollars. I say, no, we just say that what you need for marketing if you're gonna get that deal, I'm like, dude, that's get you twenty five thousand and tell me I need two hundred to three hundred thousand. But this was probably the best twenty five grand I spent in my life because after that, that's all I wanted. I wanted distribution. There every record

company that came at me say they wanted distribution. Then then when when Proudy came, you know, they said, if you're gonna pay the marketing, you're gonna get you that deal. And that's what happened. I end up I end up making more money than the record company. Wow. So so from us in New York at the time, right we had heard the records, but we didn't we didn't get

to see the visuals. But what took us over was the movie about about it was because we only heard how crazy the South fit like we didn't really know, like we didn't know no until we see I'm about it about it? What made you even think of that? What made you say, you know what, I'm I'm I'm gonna film myself because you did this all on your own. Would that be considered the first like hip hop indeed movie? Yeah, I believe. So I believe this is before streets is watching. Definitely.

I mean I just crushed groove and things like that, but that wasn't independent, and then it wasn't by the artist for like, you know, this thing was football early. So so how did you what? What was you sitting around watching the scar face and said I'm gonna do this ship too. So I watched. I watched a lot of movies that I felt like, even now that we don't own nothing. So you know at the time, I mean in Dependent Filmmaker the year, Spike Lee was like, man,

Pete don't make no real movies. He makes street movies. But that's all we knew, that's where we come from. Yeah. So, but the thing about it is nobody from the streets of it took it to say, let's show the world how real it is in these streets instead of killing each other up. It's coming together. You know what my whole thing was. You know, I want to show my community, the hood where I come from. And then one day

I want to be able to be the person. If I do our own movies and financing, we're gonna get the bigger cut from it. And one I want to be able to you know, be somebody and somebody to say, oh man, that dude brought the projects has something to do with helping the projects. If you know, when it came out, every street in New York's city was tuned the fun I'm sure Charlie came from the Army with that video tape and you go watch this listen. It was this. This is the art Kelly take was the

most ship bootleg in the hood. Like yo, I definitely didn't have a real copy toil later on in life. I'm just being honest. I had a bootleg. But that's how hill it was. People stealing my bootleg was It was the first time I've seen, well, we see other outcasts, other outcasts, do you know what I'm saying? Like like like like we did the South, like yeah, but people didn't really like like accept we didn't even know what was going on in the South New York wasn't really

never except outcast right. Yeah. At me at the time, the ghetto boys was big, but they wasn't connecting in the East Coast, you know, they wasn't They wasn't connecting. Like I looked up to them guys to where they made great music, but it wasn't club music. So it was like more of the vibe, you know, mind playing tricks on me. You know what I'm saying. Space damn man, you know a lot of people, That's what I tell

people all the time. Man, we don't appreciate the ones that paid the weight, and we don't get because, like you say, they say, oh they're done, but then we don't know the real stuff people doing for the community. Like for me, it's a blessing to be able to come out those projects, man, and to be able to be a part of rebuilding the projects because people don't know this. Man. In two thousand nine, they was trying to get rid of the Callio projects after Hurricane Katrina.

Me and a guy I'm talking about, an expert, a black guy to understand development of buildings. That's what we gotta grow with this a guy named Key Keys. He don't get the proper respect he needs to get. But this guy help me. We raised a hundred and eighteen million to rebuild the Callio projects. So to actually come from hip hop to be able to do that. You know, by the way, I don't know if you know. I don't know if you know. I went to the Callio one time to look for you for some reason I had.

I thought that you guys would just be hanging out, like, yeah, it was so hot at the top. I went there and people I knew I was gonna get killed. He just looked at me and he didn't say nothing. I said, let me get the funk about it. But yeah, yo, so that's crazy. You We rebuild it and now it's gonna be like luxury homes, y'all see it right now. He's done. So it took us a while, and so we had to do this, true Hub. I know a lot of people say, so you're keeping the whole like

the residents in place. Yeah, it's done. It's we did it, true Hub. But uh, it was stages to raise the money to be able to do this. So this developer who I'm talking like from Pittsburgh this is a bad dude, you know men men and his friends to be able to come from the projects and grow because he did it in Pittsburg with his projects and he was like, Pete, we could do the same thing. In the callio, I said, man, we need to do this because they was trying to

get rid of it. Like I tell people all the time, man, stop thinking about the small stuff. We gotta think about the big stuff that we do that we can do if we make it and be successful. Like, nobody never gave me nothing. Man Like even the drug dealers when they was there, they all, look, man, you know how to bag up, then I'll get you this. How you make your braid or whatever. People are not gonna give

you nothing. For us to be able to do this at that level and to rebuild this, it's it's incredible, man Like. To be honest with you, I don't I don't know if it ever been done with anybody in any hood to understand that part of the game, I'd be crazy, like, nah, let's go by Queen's bread man. Yes what you know what? But we all need to come back together because now we know how to do it. It's been then the psychologist you really brought back the hood.

That's hard to get that. I'm sorry, that's hard. That is hard. That is really, man, Let me tell you something. It felt so good to go back there and cut the ribbon to make this thing look so But you know what, to be honest with your man is we are uneducated, even though we come from the reets. Me going to college was probably the best thing happened to me to what I know a lot of stuff that I wouldn't knew if I just made money, because anybody could get money, You lose money, get it, come back

if your hustle. That's how I go. My thing is I think the man of above for giving me a billion dollars worth of knowledge I'm doing. Let me let me just say something. I just felt Richard as he said that. As he said that, I felt it. But let me let me teache sup like a little bit, right, people, let's get into some of your Yeah, this is amazing,

it's amazing. Roum. They said that two days before Nipsey had passed away, he was in the studio with you recording the record for I Got the Let me so let me, let me let me tell you how this has happened. Nipsy is such a real dude. Me and him probably recorded over seventeen songs together. Like I went to his hood because he was a stand up guy. They don't make them like that. I called a lot of artists I'm working on. I got the hook up to you know how people. Man, I'm gonna do it.

I'm gonna get it. Nipsy straight, big dog, what you need, Bam, here, ready to go. I met Nipsy Drew Drew Low, a dude from Chicago years ago. Low with fifteen hundred ras man did some stand up dudes. Ever since we built that relationship, Nipsey always asked me, man, how you do this? How you do that? And I always man, look, go do it. Let me show you. You can hear the respect that he has for you to his music continue. I'm so sorry. Yeah, no, man, it was. It was

a terrible loss for us. So were the studio two days before. No, No, we wasn't. We wasn't in the studio two days. He sent the records soon as I said, look, man, I need a record. Okay, bam. But we've been in the studio a lot together. We made We made a lot of records. But that was like, you know, you hear some of these guys that act like but something about Nipsey. What I don't like about this situation the

hood us killing each other. We're gonna kill the people that's gonna put the bread in the hood and take away the man. Guys? Who else you want? Are You're gonna kill a plug for what? Because this man feeding families? You know what I'm saying, Yeah, we gotta stop that. How we gonna grow? So you gotta look at two the crazy that Nifsy. My biggest thing was with him that I told him his record when he was alive. So fifty two thousand copies now you have he passes

sold millions. Why is that the same music now? People running around bumping the music and doing that. That ain't cool because this man had great music while he was a live You know, even bet I love Bete. I appreciate it, But you showcase this man funeral? Would you showcase this man birthday? But let's be honest. This man I was trying to get records on bet On the video chat said that about Prodigy as well, So continued Prodigy.

I'm saying, Bushwick, I'm just saying, yeah, we need all these outlets, but at least recognized we could do more. If you did that, that man wouldn't even been in the sbody here. But let me tell you something, Master Pete, that is the reason why we started this, yase. You know why we We didn't realize this is gonna be a big platform. We didn't realize we was gonna make a television. We just said, you know what, me and him were stopping hip hop people and we're like, you

know what, I'm mad that you know Dad's dealings. You got twelve years in the game and people say, well something, you know, you know he's not the guy no more, and he's still making the same thing. And the crazy thing is, from the day one we started this, all our fans kept said, Master, the same thing on this Instagram. So this is I'm sorry, yeah, but but I'm gonna

tell y'all that's the impart what we gotta do. We gotta celebrate positive things because you think about it, after you get so far, you're gonna go out and do negative stuff because nobody see the negative. They see the negative, don't see the positive. And that's what I tell my son. I say Romeo. But the best thing that you could do is being straight and doing what you gotta do. It's gonna it's gonna come back. Don't worry about this other stuff. You're gonna be big as anything in the

world because you're doing right. You know, even though the system don't want to show like because if you were in the hood and you knew, I ain't got to be a drug dealer. I just gonna make money the right way. You're gonna go do it the right way. What if that's you wonna last longer. He wonnna live longer because you do it the wrong where you end up dead in the penitential. You know, some of us got lucky and escaped a lot of this, But everybody know, I got my brother dad. I got a brother dad

and a brother in Penitencial, so it's real rest in peace. Yeah, where were you at when you got the Nipsey um um nipsey news man? I was. I was. I was filming, and it just hit me because, yeah, I was filming. I was filming some in Cali. Yeah, I was in case people don't know, my basketball team is in that same neighborhoods. I've been having a basketball team for nineteen years in that community. Yeah I do. I had uh Brandon Jenner's the margin roles and when it was in

the seventh grade. They come through my program. So that same hood right now, I got the same team. A matter of fact, my kids played for that team. Now I have a son that's in the tenth grade. That's that's nice and basketball. But he I make sure he played, you know, on that team, on that College Soldiers team,

so he's there. That team we practice at Washington High School is probably one of the most dangerous places, but I always go there because I want them kids to see if I could make it out, y'all can make it out. And then in the in the in the neighborhood respected, the same thing back at home in New Orleans, the neighborhood respected because they know, I tell you, man, I ain't there for the streets. I'm there for the

kids in the baby. I don't nobody else nothing, but I'm gonna come there for them kids in the in the in the in the elderly. So you know, that's that's what we've been doing that for nineteen years. Man. We got a couple of guys in the NBA right now. But did you think it was like a rumor when you heard like like he got shot this hood? Yeah, so let me let me tell your up what's crazy? And long as long as I've been knowing Nipsey h oh, I didn't even know he had a brother, his brother, Yeah,

I didn't need to be honest. You know, man in Black Sam really been holding it down for the family man. And uh that's when I finally said, yeah, man, Low was like, man, you gotta highlight Black Sam. Man, you know this ship real because Lower he was like, man, yeah, this ship real though, And uh man, it's crazy how that just it really told something out of me because this dude, you know, I'm up close hands with him.

Feel how pure he was? Yeah? Oh no, I'm telling you man, when this man, so, let me tell you how how nips he is. Right. So, we had just did that rap Niggas remix and uh me Boosey uh Jeezy and I think jay Z was supposed to be on and so we we we just did that. We was about to shoot that video you know, pretty soon, and uh it's just it's just like damn bro always a good one that's really trying to do something and it's it's going to be like, well, man, maybe got shot,

it'll be over. When I first when I first Helready got shot, I thought it was it was that like he's gonna, you know, recover hospital. Yeah, but but it's Man. But I ain't gonna lie. Man his death and brought so many people together. I've seen bloods and crips walk in that neighborhood that I never the latinos, the latinself. Manos loved him. You know, they loved me. They love

my music. Man, I've seen everybody coming together because you know, everybody was segregated like Man especially it's people don't know. That was the only show I ever went through to E that I pulled up and I've seen every single game and I was ll do. I said, oh ship, alright, cool, we gotta be on point. And then two minutes later, it's like it was a shooting on the other side. I said, I knew what happened, and I just left because every single game, I'm sweet, kid, you not, they

all saluted me. There's no problem. But that's what I'm saying. He brought peace. He let me tell you something. Did you see a lot of him and you because in a lot of ways you did the same thing. And um but the one thing, the one thing I wish I could have told him is how you got to get away from a neighborhood that you live in, that that you know. For me, i'd rather know my enemies because I played defense. I'm gonna play defense. That's just

the way I go. You know what I'm saying. But you know when you get comfortable, because at one time I got comfortable in my hood to where you know, I know this is the safe zone for me, no matter whether I don't care where is that. I know once I get to the hood, I'm straight. And you gotta stop thinking like that once you get money, because just this the evilness I have the money being in

the hood, you let your going down. But guess what, everybody else don't have money, so you cheese for the rats. That's what people don't realize. I don't care how much they know you. Or one time my man, the hood man, one of the home and said, man, why do you keep coming around here? I said, what man? I put this on the man? But you know, oh cool, I've got it now. I ain't caring one. I'm caring to Now you know what I'm saying this, master Man, That's

how I live because the jealousy is real. I ain't never asked nobody to do nothing for me. If if I ain't got to do it, then they don't need to be done. To be honest with you, you know, and I just think that the only as you get money you come from the hood is not like how white people that have money could live. You have to know how to survive with money as a black man from hrep. Look look at changing drugs. You show you

familiar with that. You know, it's like sometimes jam Master j. It's like a lot of the times the rappers get killed in their own and by people well because that's where they're most comfortable. Ship ball players. Look at your big poppy your head smashing other niggas else. I'm throwing it out that out there, man, man shout out to let me tell y'allself. Man, I read that. I read you can't shoot the man for smashing. No girl, I listened. I'm just sad even now. You know, Gus, guess what

not somebody else donna smash. We don't down. You have some wrong. You gotta have some wrong. Okay, let's talk about this wrong man. So the first one we get on there, I got a shout out to my boy, oh in the d R Gangster million man, the no limits soldiers over there, man, because he got a hard man that got my home is holding it down. No, don't let Soldia's got gone. So trust me. I spent fifty dollars one day. I had he stood around here, say yeah, the machine you can, I said, Holy said,

this is the best fifty dollars. Let me tell y'all something about over there. You was passed with Domerican. My home is over there holding it down for real. So yeah, we we just we just did a video over there, and yeah, yeah, we brought Boosey over there. Man. We got some big records over there. Man, my home is over there, man. True, they're holding it down. So yeah, and they're coming in the next up. Man, they there, next up because they're going hold and how we went

hard like they really want this music thing. And I I man, I shot him out because I'm like, man, y'all, y'all gonna do something that ain't been done internationally. You know what I'm saying that international money you don't want to water. Now we also had snoop on here at Snoops, he broke it down. He said, man, he looked at us and for some reason, like both of his eyes looked at both of us the same time. He said.

A lot of people was fronting. Yeah. But when pa and he said yo, and people were scared of death of shore. He said, no one would touch him at the peak, he said, like you know, like when he was leaving at that he said, not a not a soul. Yeah, would happened me. They were scared of like he had chicken pops, but they said master p came't dough like Superman black Superman. In my pinion, you had a black cake. In my opinion, did you have a purple one like Prince?

But I know you had a kid. You know, I'm a man of gold, and I realized you don't need to feel no man but God. So whenever we did that deal, people don't know I went to visit was in prison at the time. I went to visit him in prison and wo woa, whoa whoa stop right there we did it. I don't think I've ever heard that Partoo said that, Oh, let's keep it going. Yeah, So I wouldn't sit down with him, and I don't say that. Okay, alright, continue dream chance. So he he had some deals for

Snoop on the table. You know me, I'm a country boy. I'm like, well, look, dude, my money spent. How much you got how much they're gonna get you? He said, told me the number. I said, well, I'm gonna give you three hundred thousand more than whatever the deal you got on the table. And that's what we did in the prison. So you signed Sug like he signed Pop. You mean Snoop? Well it was it wasn't. It wasn't like that. It was like Sug was in prison and uh And I was like, what I say, just Sug

shugg the pot. I don't. I don't know about that pretty much because you say Sug gave you the number. Yeah, Heed, he owned the company at the time, being it was up a label doing that. It wasn't Park dictating the number. I thought it was parted that to get out of that deal. He needed that to get money to get out. So but at this time, yeah, so we did the deal, and I think we probably had one situation, yeah, maybe too. And after that we handled it and then we had

no more problems. And I want to get right back to that. Let me tell you, let me tell you the craziest I'll we'll get back to that. Let me tell you the craziest thing one time. This is what I knew, like black companies is power. I forget who it was was Jimmy Ivian or Leo Colins, but we I was meeting them in Vegas and I met with him and they said, Yo, did you just see how

No Limit Records walked through? And I said, and I said, no, I didn't see them because and it was he said, there was twenty four Actually, wonder, it's the first time I ever seen and like this company was like, like no one's seen that before. Like you know what I mean? Well, my thing, my thing is with us, man, it's about making show your team eat it straight. You know. Now after a while with people don't manage their money, that's

on them. You know what I'm saying, You can't, man, I want my people to be straight on on them looking good. But if you won't go just blow your money in the strip club. But you're gonna get out e. You won't see that. Y'all don't know what are you going. I remember, you know I did fift it first tour. People don't know that. So I've been been fifted. First guy in the game. He'll tell you I paid for his tour. Yeah, that's that's when that first record that

was hot that he puts. So I ran up. Yeah, I ran him through the South to everywhere like like, yeah, now I knew he was gonna be a store that it was your first tour with pocket. Yeah. So so people don't realize the story with pox. So I I had the store. They'll come in my store and see me. They know I was about having money, so they invited me first is to come hang out. I'll go on the road. And then by the time they you know, you don't back then you don't get the money until

you do the show or finished the show whatever. So we always go shopping. They know I had brids, I'll pay for everything. Then after the thing, no practice everything. Yeah yeah, so they were like, man, you gotta get Peter come out on the road, you know. So so that's how I really started. And it was like I didn't really know I could wrap, but I know I've been through so much and I really lived this. I'm on the streets and this is what I do. Something

like I'm like, man, I really live this. So the stuff I was saying, you know you it's solid, It's for real, something like I'll be out there on the bus saying some of the stuff even in my Stokes. So people coming to Stow and be like what they helped? That's on. I was like, I was just saying that, you know what I'm saying, and so that's how I really know that I could. I could do it. And so I started making little stuff and putting it out.

But then you know, I went from opening up for pop because they know they after while it was like you got a zone. Now you can open up the ice cream man. Yeah. Right right before I was doing the ice cream Man, the body by nobody. People's thoughts like you got man, I'm in the West Coast with that. I got gold tee dress, the whole baby. That's so so I remember being out there man, and I'm on the road. So they bring me out and forward is

the lights the way the lights on. So the white guy always introduced me because I told Hi, I'm from New Orleans. He said, Mr Peter Country Single, I said, Doug Hold up the first little but it didn't go down like I pulled him to the side as it look, bro, I'm really from the streets, know what I'm saying. So he ended up he fixed it. But man, I had I had one fan. I had one dude in the audience just singing my music and then where everybody was. Man when went pocket, I was like, man, I'm gonna

turn that one fan in the millions. And that's what I ended up doing. Man, I went out through the audience like twenty thousand people and shook this man hand and give him my T shirts or people don't know. My whole marketing scheme was I had made you if you appreciate me, that's it. So I ended up I got every sea that here. I put out the no limit T shirts. I don't care if your home is whatever. Every drug dealer hustle, I see what a fixed up card? Give him a free CD, you know. So that's what

my street team. That was my marketing. And so you gotta realize you gotta start small. Man. I started small, and I was I appreciate them for letting me open up for him. How many shows do you think you did with them? I did a lot like I ain't kind of me. They wanted me to come. I don't care if I was doing shows and not. I was just on the bus. It was that guy crazy. Um,

So was there any flag I don't know. I know we spoke on that earlier, like after you signed Snoop, like after you signed like like when you came to Cali. Was they like trying to like, yeah, I got I got a phone call from Sugar one time. He's out of prison at this point he was out of prison. And now y'all, y'all see, I think people thought that um Snoop was gonna come over and that was it. But you broke You had a single with dred On Yola liked that. That was crazy that so you gotta

call from Shi. Did anything like transpired from that? Say, Caroline big enough for me? Him and puff? Oh? Why wow? I say, when you're moving because I just brought a house. You said you had that phone call? Um, was there any worries on your behalf? Because man, I grew up in the call of your project. Ain't nobody's gonna self oppressed me? Man, I don't care who you is. You know what I'm saying, Like I'm gonna work with you.

You're another black man, to be honest with you. So when you go back and look at hot boys, I got a little cousin this big We don't care about size and none of that. Like alright, Peter him Man, that name was for real. You know what I'm saying. And I think i'd probably save half of the people in the hip hop that you know that. I'm like, no, man, let these dudes make it. And that's that's the thing

that I don't understand about hip hop right now. Like if it's beef, it's beet for real, you know, like, and if it's not, it's not like you know what I'm saying, I understand, you know, somebody might be offended. I'm moving into I'm moving into Hollywood. Man, I'm not moving into your hood, So you shouldn't have no problem with me. Those white people got business on every corner. Why we can't have it? We killing each other for nothing?

Anything I got. I'm one. That's the shows that many you know what I'm saying, And you got a fancy word to go with them. That's the books. But that's what I'm saying. We don't own nothing, So I didn't take that note to offense. When she did that, I just like, maybe maybe he don't really know me though. I figure, like, if you take your time and we can sit out and have a conversation, you know, you know who I am, Like, I don't. I don't. I don't disrespect people. I say, if you want to get respect,

gotta give it. You know. It just made me feel a little different about them, Like, man, you know, if you won't do that, you do that in person, and then you you have a connect with him and actually came home like face to face on them. I don't. I don't think I ever seen him after that. You know what I'm saying. Some of my people there, okay, but you know I told him we're good. It ended there because I already knew that. That's how I go. You know what I'm saying, Maybe somebody don't know me.

I'm a man of gold, but I'm gonna I'm gonna hold my own, you know what I'm saying. So I know the devil is real. That's what people got to realize. You know, even you believe if God is real, you gotta know the devil is really. So I'm like, it just made me feel a different kind of way that I wouldn't have did that. I would have opened up man. Come to calip It's enough, rapp a lot, j oh y'all come to calip Man because this Hollywood just money.

At know, Like I just think, if you look at this what we're talking about, shoes, these companies on every cone in the same block, addas going to going to mall. We don't need to be doing that. That's what I want. That's why I never said not to him. I wanted to tell that to him personally. When I see him, you know, it reminds me of like because like I said, we had a birdman sitting the same ship, and um it was the Calios, the Magnolia or something like that.

I mean, people say that, but you gotta marriage. I'm gonna be honest with y'all. My dad lived in the Callio. That's why I lived in the Callio with my dad. My mom and my dad split. I went to Calio, my brother, my sister they went to the Magnolia. My mom lived in the Magnolia, so I went to both. I went to both projects. As my MoMA got a little job, she she moved in the house on Penterson Street, right up the street from the Magnolih So I got family to Magnolia and found in the callio. So I mean,

I really it really wasn't no beefing with us. You know. It's just that because it reminds me of what you said hot boys earlier, and you guys had the hot boys. Well, my hot boy was was a different You don't see it. You don't see it in the movie in the in the King of the South ice cream Man movie. You know, my cousin man, he had a good heart, but he just was he was about that life. So you know,

I almost lost my life with him. So you know, yeah, I I almost almost lost my life with him as a kid, and so um he ended up going to prison and I end up going to college. So yeah, you know, and and man, it's about you gotta want to change. So I let people know. And you won't see this in my movie. I knew God had a way for me that day. So I'm faking. I want to be like hot boar. My cousin, he's a man. Back there the project where I live at, I'm shooting dis I got like unting on me. You know, I'm

Nicola and diamond. He the man, He got about twenty thirty g s on him. I'm in high school. This is my senior year. So all the shooters, high schoolers, your goal is a little b nineteen at that time. For me, that's when me and my brother go. My brother died at nineteen. My homeboys that go to school with me, eight of them jumped out of colors and say you know what it is? And hot boyd he the man, he said, man whatever, I threw my money up in the air. I couldn't run. They was trying

to rob you. Say they come with it, Come with it. It's far on the east side. We're in the project shooting dice. You only can run up the steps. If you run that way, they're gonna shoot you in the back or whatever because you try to run through the co with I wanted to live. I run up the steps with dark so I'm tell of somebody dropping my gun, dropping my gun. I started grabbing the dough rattle on the door and I laid down. They shoot up the door.

I come downstairs. They hit hot board eight times. He's still living. I hit a call drive all I run down stair jumping a car take him to the hospital. And I knew like God had something else with me. But I thought, I thought that was it. I had to do what I had to do, right. I never seen him. They went to school with me, never seen him. Hot Boy told me, Man, go on to college. You're gonna be something. You could be a star. First day I got to college, he called all eightough and he

went to prison. So after that, I knew that God had a way for me, that I need to change my life. And and and and that's when I said, I gotta do something legit, you know. And I believe in that man up above. Man, he he had changed your life. But you gotta change your mindset. And lot of us don't want to change our mindset. We don't want to grow, We don't want to get up out these communities. Even if you're gonna stay there, you got to be a better person, especially if you have kids.

I think I think Romeo for me having them. At nineteen, man, I left, I left the project. I said, Man, I got a son. I'm going to Cali and I end up in richardond California. So because of my son, because I wanted to see him grow up and go to college. I didn't want him to live like that. All people don't know Roman, you're really from the gutther So all Roman, your friends they monsters when we go back and see you know, they're the dead on in prison Romano friends.

So you know my friends, you know what I'm saying. So that's when that's when you gotta really start looking at the people around you and figuring out how you could change them. I have guys around me like now that I took from when they was young. They hang with me like big Court. You've been around me jugging my own big buys is Like, man, I'm like, y'all gotta make changes in your life if y'all want to be around and for us to see our kids. Bro, you know and from crazy you know the tweez is

like get your real crew and you love them. You know, Me and silk Man, we're brothers. We go to thinking them me and me and see we're brothers. All that fixed stuff they'd be talking about, man and brother, Like I put my I paid for lawyers all you know, people, Man, I love you. See we'll pay for my lawyer. You know. Me and my brother gonna get in until we've been doing. That was a wild boy. I used to have to tie see up. I beat him up when we was living.

He gonna get a gun on a knife for something. You know what I got. I gotta make shore. I tag him up because to my parents come. You know what I'm saying. And then we're working out. But I love it. Man, We me and see them me and see it be mad at each other and beat somebody up the next five minutes, get into it like man, hold up, And that's the way, you know what I'm saying. He always see let me tell you something. See why but see see she got a lot of love in

his heart, a lot a lot of love. And it's hard of y'all don't realize. Man. We got a lot of good brothers. But you you got to imagine how go on the streets when you get really get real. You know, I stopped seeing from doing a lot of stuff man until where you know, And that's why that's why a lot of people don't like to be around me because I ain't know, yes, man, eat my own family. Sure they want me to be Yeah, man, do this you know, like back in the days. I don't know

if you know we'll just wrapped Pastor Troy, Yeah, sober Pastor. Yeah. So he made us. I don't know Pastor. I never met him. That was supposed to be ya, I never met I never met him. But check check this out. What happened right? Greg Street called me for the radio and said, yeah. So he was like, look, p blah blah blah, wanta sit on and talk to you and wave the white flat. I said, I don't know nothing about that. I don't know the man like you could

you make you make records? You gotta know what you're dealing with. So I just said, he said, what what can we do, buddy? I said, just walk on the other side of the street. You see me. I'm not looking for you enough. I don't that ain't meet. I'm a man of God. But just like two mountains may not meet, but two men will, you know. And that's like, man, you know, you know, you know, you gotta know what you're doing my hand, yeah, not what you gotta know

what you're doing. And see when he when to a concert, he head already and it it went bad. I think c probably got the wrong dude to do. He thought, was him, you know what I'm saying so, but he was on goat and I said, see it could have got real and all other dudes around from hot board or whoever. I say, it was like, what's up with this dude? I say, man, they do the rapper didn't be a rapper. I'd never beef thone wreck because I

never he was doing. He was, y'all, was the hottest thing out and he was just because if you actually listen to now that I'm thinking about it, you actually listening to he was like going on to take, but that was it he was going to actually take. He didn't. He was specific with this this is but I been thinking about it. But I think he thought I was gonna wrap back with That's what he wanted. That's what he wanted. In my belief, Yeah, I don't. I don't

do that. I've never done that. In the height of everyone thinking maybe because um Bergman also denied this, but but maybe everyone maybe it's it really was us. But in the height of you guys, both at the height of no limit cash money, we we looked like this is this is Tupac Big all over again, but it's even more personal because this is from the same city. It's from the same time and some of the artists from opposite projects. It was almost like Wu tang the teams. Yeah,

you know in the video show y'all. Let me tell y'all something. We're a couple of blocks up from each other. Do you think if it was beef it WK? I like them, dude. I was happy for them, even though we just don't get out on together. We don't get out like I don't fake it with people. If I don't know you, I ain't hang out, which I don't do that, you know, so I don't. I don't do that. Like do you see. I showed them dudes love everywhere. I got out shout out to cash money man for

doing what they gotta do. I respect that they come from my hood. I want to see them when I want to see them eat. That's what we're saying. Why we can't be on every block like the Gucci and facade and all that ship man real ship, you know, but the system owners show that like anyway, if you don't own your record company, were killing each other for what I ain't never seen nobody beef with Jimmy Iven and the other dudes. Re Let's be honest, Why you

another beef with them. So I tell these jumps, is anyway the money that they think in the music business now, we're still living off the money we had twenty years ago. I don't have to do shows. When I go do shows, it be for what I want. Pay it to me right now. So I tell people when you're in the music business, so y'all dealing with downloads and streams now right, So how you make your money? So if you get a million downloads, a million streams at a penny, how

much you have and ship? Think about it? You know how much you have? I have no idea. I ain't making money. Those strange ain't got ten thousand dollars. So think about we sold a million records. You know how much I got. I'm gonna gett nineteen dollars a record beyond stream Let's let's be honest. I'm saying, why are we killing each other up? And you got a three sixty deals, so that's ten thousand knowledge. You gotta split

with the man who owned the company. Let's behind why were killing each other and you in most of the hood rappers right now, it's not gonna get a million streamed. Let's be honest. How many, no names gonna reach a million, so they're telling me. So that's the reason why they still live in the neighborhoods they live in. But we could fix that. We gotta start by owning stuff. If we own it, the money coming to us. We don't

need to do all that. You don't have to go out and sell CDs at the trunk of your car. That got did. It's all social media. But social media gotta is a gift and the curasion because you've got the hater's gonna shoot it down before you even get there. You're working progress, but you're gonna let the hatter stop you, you know. And that's what I'm saying. Man, we got to know our business. We don't have to go sell

our soul right now, you know. And that's the thing I was trying to do with Kodak and everybody next, like I'm helping you and this thing is a genie, like every next question of his brother. But then about if he were to listen to what I said, you know what, that's what I just I want to say. So this was the media takes stuff and because Kode, you know, he a young dude and he might say something, but he might not say it what but I love and respect I want you to make it though I

don't want you to make I made. So My thing was to him was like, look if I go get this deal for you, oh boy, giving you a hundred grand right now, I know the man who owned the company. I'm gonna get your meal, and you're gonna give me the same percentage you're giving that. Dude, I just want that. Just give me the same percentage that So, so I'm a black man, you're giving this white man to break. I'm just saying I don't want your money, but I'm gonna help you and show you what you need to

do to get more money. And down the line, don't give me nothing. I fly you around, do whatever. But when it's time that we can make some money, let me make a little bread. That's it. But I think when people getting caught up at because they don't look at the big picture and even about giving back, people try to come in and divide and conquer. Because I told him at the time, I say, what the backpacks? You don't call that games. I said, there's been some

backpacks doing in the community. You need to get out this without I've been doing this for twenty years. But us coming together and you as a youngster, you don't have to worry about the man have to pay to get you out of jail. You're making your own bread and you're giving back to the community. So let's change that mindset. But you know, you don't see that because soon as social media gets something, they say a little part of it and take it out and mix it

up and ended it. So you never know what really happened. I never asked the man for a dime. Why I gave I spent forty five grant in that community where I don't even know because I gave the kids my word that I'm gonna be there and I'm healthy, right yeah, and so, but I think what happened was the lawyer guy he had, you know when Kode talk. He said, you have big dog, I want those. It was some some kind of backpacks. It's like JA, but the dude got backpacks for six dollars. But it's not jam sports,

you know what I'm saying. But that's what you get there for six dollars. You can't get jam sports to six dollars. Now if you go to the Chinese probably the lawyers you're gonna get it twenty five. That's what I'm trying to tell him. I said, you know what, since we promised the kids that I'm gonna just pay for I've paid the money. But I wish him well and he a good dude. But at the same time, this is the system. Do they play on us while we get in trouble so they pay out bill, get

us out of jail. Make them think they really would us. But you're really spending your own money. So don't be afraid to allder them. So that's my thing to you to the youngster. Don't be afraid to order these people. Let me go ordered them to see how really to dude, what what you need on me for? I'm saying, because that's a that's that's this man business, you know. Let

me tell you something. I'm gonna be honest with you with you're saying is the most genius thing after But you have to be at least like in your thirties to comfort hand. But that's why you break people around us to help you do that. You see fives right now, the lights can do be messing my o g If he says, see your hands down down to this day, right to this day because I know he gonna leave me, right. So my question to you is, did Kodak have any o gs around him that you could have talked to?

Because you know that. The thing about it is like like like I'll give you a great example, right. But when I first started doing reggae thrown, I was telling these people don't ever stop right there, stop making excuses. I started my business at nineteen. Don't don't say they're young or whatever. The chart is on you. You gotta make those decisions. Do you want to be bigger or you just want to be regular? You got somebody to know how to make hundreds of millions of dollars the

music business. You got an expert. I can show you how to get the money. You just gotta use me. So if you hard it, see in prison right now because he didn't listen. He didn't commit this crime. See innocent we're fighting for We should have to be fighting for him if he listened. So you wanta be a man. It's like I'm telling my grandfather told me a hard head make a sol fast. That's it, straight up right.

You know what I was making excuses. The thing is I'm trying to give because you know what it is gonna be. Nor would you be alive right now. People made excuses for you know, think about you might bump your head. Yeah, and let us go bump out head. But you ain't gotta bump your head if I already did it for ten times. But the thing is, people, when you came out of the nineties, it was a lot harder for us to come out. It's a lot easier for these kids to come out different. So you're saying.

What I'm saying is they have a lot less guidance with them. That's that's all I'm saying. I'm not you think when the guy took him to jail, you think he worried about how young he is. Let's be honest, you're going to prison with everybody else you're gonna have to even with me or you. They don't care how older, how you is. It's about doing what's right. If you know you not a thinker, then go find you a thinker.

You know what I'm saying. If you know that you don't want to do the work, then you're gonna find somebody that's gonna do the work for you. But if you find it, yes, man, you're gonna end up ded on prison. To be honest, because certain things you don't need to be doing. You guys said, if you're big, this man got hit records. He huge, he shouldn't be in prison, should be on the streets in prison, shouldn't

be on the streets. So at the same time, and then if I come to you and say, man, I need you to do this for me, but then I'm paying him money, but I won't pay it to you, they don't make no sense. So take this out. If a rapper comes to me, the hottest rapper right now, what you think they're making four hundred thousand the album to put out. So this is how the record company get him. I'm gonna give you. No, I'm gonna give you two million to do five albums. That's four hundred thousands.

So but let me or you. Man. But if I say look recoupable, it's it's recoupable. But what if I say I'm gonna give you four hundred dollars when you do an album for me, man, I ain't about to do. Man, he got me for full hundred. You know all the money he got he made it. Not what they gotta do with that right, the same I'm just selling me up right now. They don't want to be up right now. You know, you know why, you know why, I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you the reason why he's right.

Sometimes you're just hearing it from a person that's not from the same environment as you. It seems like it's like sugar. And then you're here from somebody and then you feel like they're in your business. That's the that's the thing is why we gotta stay in your business. You gotta stop. You're gonna sit down and eat with you all these people. I'm gonna eat with the hangar with them, like people tell me why you come from the hood. I mean, how you keep coming back to

the hood and didn't. So now you've got guys that live in mansions, live in the big neighborhoods that don't come back. You know why? Thank god. Body, Then you got the ones that come you question me, like, so who posts they help y'all losing? Let's be honest. I should just stay my answer in my mansion and never come back. Y'all be happy with that. I can tune y'all out of the social me. I got my money already.

You know what. That's the thing is. You didn't have to like be a mentor to Kodak, You didn't have to be a mentor to Dempsey. Um what what what makes you? Um? I forgot the other fat boy guy. The Melican means master me. I gotta get my past Dominicans today. Listen, Jesus Christ, you can't be happy like that's going on, my brother, Holy Moly moly, Yo. So I haven't lost my thorter question and I don't know what the fun was at but um, first off, pea,

but you're saying why I come back? No, because that's the thing. He hesnit there and I'm passing it right back to you. That was a big thing about people when Nipsey got yeah murdered, was a lot of us were sitting back and saying, even when we come and get back to the hood, sometimes sometimes it's better to take the hood with you and get out of the hood. Is that true or though? What it all depends? I mean, when you're in the hood, think about it. If you're

drug dealing in the hood and we're taking shot hold on. Yeah, if you're a drug dealing in the hood, you know how to survive. Hold up a second bar. When you stopped learning how to survive, then you shouldn't go back to the hood like that. Like like if you were playing defense when you was in the hood, you might have play defense when you out of the hood. Goddamn, you know, offense gonna come offense have come down like this, ain't I'm I don't learn how to play defense for

I played offense. I'll get the ball. Let me tell you something again. I want you to know, hold on, hold on. Our show was about giving off people they love. Now let'll tell you something. You're one of the biggest moguls and drink champs history and hip hop history and black people history, black people. It got deeper. It got deep like that, and we want to salute you now. We want to tell you who the funk you are.

Now we know you know who you are. I guess what we want to tell you because they don't take nothing away from me for big you off. And I'm gonna continue to video. We preaching whether you're here, are you're not here? And this is sugar skull mom. You it's dangerous right there stowing it off there. I immediately want another shot. That is good and it's not a hundred degrees in this motherfucker. Because if I want another shot of that, that's that's bringing the Puerto Rican outom

Me right, my cousin and my cousin back there. He's knowing Puerto Rican. He's this, We're gonna bring this to Puerto Rico. Yo. But there's so many businesses come, like your sneaker company to your wrong company. You walked in here and you said something, companies, film companies. You want to hear something? He said, you got something to do with that? Um, Because by the way, we know, we went all over Miami trying to find it. There's no way to be fine. Am we want to throw it

out there. We got you, we got we got you. But when you we made the request we went, we said, holy no one could find us. But we then we realized this is ship. We're gonna get this ship in every store of money. But I think, is this you preach ownership? So man, let me tell you'll something me doing a movie. I got to hook up too. They're trying to stock and Blue coming back, and Blue is back July twelve, right here with the white mink. Everybody

coming back, all right? A j coming back a j coming back Boom boom boom was my man, we gotta come. You don't watch coming big time in Lester coming Back Winds. Never you that debo jacking things with his nephew this time Jesus Cookie Monster. They were gonna hit you for a role. I didn't know how to go about it. I'll get you in through what happened with this movie. We talked about ownership, why people need to go see this movie. We didn't know you're using real camps usual Hollywood.

You just spillburg cape like start track out here. And and we did this on our own. Man. It was a lot of work, a lot of hard work. Me and Romo your finance the film together first to the most. Yeah, he played, he's had a detective in there. This is the first time a fat and son paid for a Hollywood movie like this, coming from hire And I'm like, I'm gonna telling you something. I'm wearing that basketball players football because they can't say we don't give opportunity everybody.

Yeah got what you made room pay this yo. My kids have been listening this. You pay your way to man, we wouldn't have on this project. And we producers executive producers of this film, and we're starting in it as far than sun coming from here place. That means we come along with he trying to arrest you because you're detective and yeah, I'm doing my day. Yeah I'm still black. So the thing about this though, man, we gave a hundred and twenty six people speaking roles in this film.

It's like the nineteen Hall of Night. We are to get his Book of World Records for the most speaking roles in the film. And yeah, man, and it's like, we don't own black Panthers. We went to the movie theaters. We need to go to the movie theaters to see this because this is our hoods. This is for us. We know how to make funny for us and we need to laugh. Now. Man, we did a lot of crime. I feel like it's time for something to make us laugh. And so even at that, man, they're trying to stop

because I need everybody to hit the theaters up. They're trying to limit us on theaters. You know, we might have to put it out on v o D the same day. We we're trying to figure it out. That's like on demand, Like if that's what we gotta do. Let him stop us. If you's the host up screening, we'll do. Listen, do whatever we're gonna do. Just in case you ain't know that, man, listen, massive b we are.

We are the biggest supporters of you because not only of what you've done, but what you're doing right now, because you know our businesses so much. Well have you done lately? But you're still doing what have you done lately? As as we every other every time I see you out there fighting for it, and I want you to

know you got support here. When when you want to announce your next sneaker, your next rum and next uh, when you joining three on three because I feel like you're gonna join three and three at some point, at some point you're gonna bust somebody. That's really you still got no man, I won't tell y'all. Like so the Toronto you come here, yeah, really in the championship, nobody you play playing for that, playing for that and the Hornets and the Hornets. I was playing. I was there.

You can pull it up. I had one game I had like seventeen you can look it up. Like, Okay, when Vince Card and Tracy McGrady was just but we went to before our time, you know, always be Drake, none of that. D like the hip hop man. It was. It was of Hole Yeah, comedians, comedians, yeahd on Tory Lane for Drake. I went to the Uh. It was good because I think about it was so what got me out in the NBA people don't realize was my music. That's why I tell people you never know how you

pass a car on the NBA. No, I had like that. So that's get some brilliant. So I went to GM office, right, I knew what it was, gonna let me go. He had the Ice Cream Man album sitting on his death Okay, hold on, what the team is this? That's what Charlotte. Okay, that's what Charlotte. I I'm up in Charlotte now the Bible Bears and g and he said, boy, you're a hell of a player, but your music is pure philth

He said this this is a Bible bill City. I said, okay, he said, but then he asked me to say, why are you not scared and the Mason Because I'm scared of amazing, you know. And Mason was on the team at the time. Rest in Pizza and amazing and and and Anthony Mason. Yeah, I was on that team. Him and him end up being friends because he he he was a man at that time. You touched and amazing you had a problem. Yeah, but he told me one time I was in the gym, he said, look, don't

nobody touched me. You know, I'm from uptown. I got to touch him. So I touched up. He said, little man, we're not getting the back. I'm gonna beat you down. Let's say I don't like I'm six four six ten, oh you know what I'm saying. So I'm the purnt gold on the team and you might be looking at TV looking like people small. But the other dude seven foot seven and six at the time, So he called me little man. When we get to the back, you know his own. Wow. I stopped and I asked coach.

I said, coach with it. Whatever happened in the gym standing in Jim. He said yes. I said, let's do this right now, like y'all gonna let you beat me when we get we're getting the back. He said, man, you crazy. I like we end up being friends. And that was that was a good dude. Man, that's a real dude. And he's very intimidated. I actually went to let me just let me just clarify what I said. I said, I went to um basketball cap with him. He was the coach of the basketball camp. I was

the younger, but um. So we covered the cash money, we covered everything. We covered. I got I got another one. I got another good one. Hold on, you wanted something, you got something? Yeah, I want to know how you discovered Beach by the Pound. So I was in Richmond, and I feel like my music was it was it was. It was West Coast, it wasn't South. So you felt that your music was West Coast at the time because

I was there. Yeah, because I was there. And then uh, when I I said, I got to get back home. So I went back home. Uh, I see my cousin in Dallas mobile and uh I had Kale and Mrs Servone hooked me and kal kal c u. Uh went back to the West Coast, went back to Richmond, start working on some stuff. And then I found me an X you know about We went back and got me an X. We brought it to the West coast. You know Meg, she all south. She like, look, I liked this, But I got to get back home because we need

to put some of that New Orleans. And she could spit. Man, Oh she could spit. She was real, but she she was living. She was from downtown. So people are telling me, you know, I'm from uptown. You got to go downtown to get me. And I said, well, I'm going downtown. I'm downtown. Talked to him, We worked it out, and then when we got to California, Mill was like, everything good, buzz, but we need we need this music back in the South. The beats, you know, the beats, We need that bouncing there.

And then everybody we went back home. I brought a building back home and we went to work. All the magic happened after that. So we we left the West Coast, went back to the South, and we went from selling no records and selling over a hundred million records independence they produced everything. Yeah, she's that's crazy that album. This is my next question, and you have the actual pinion on Yeah, the first time we ever heard the ice Cream Man, the first time we ever. Now you got

Jesus to snow Man. I also have Gucci Man. Was there ever a time you thought like kind of my ship? I used to manage Gucci man, I just don't tell you about Yeah, guc man, M dude man. And my whole thing was when Gucci was going through his problems. You never know who gonna change you. Wnna turn around man, shout out to Gucci man, man, turn around. Yeah, you know you know the ice cream man. For me, I always looked at the when I first came in the

hip ho hop, everything was black. The ghetto boys was dark, in w A was dark. Everybody wore black, and I said, I got to be different. If I'm gonna be different, then I put the white Dicky suit on and you know, so that's where the whole ice cream. So in that case, do you feel like ship no stores what you I don't care. If you can make some money off and already made my money, go ahead, bro, to be honest with you like it ain't no I want another black

man to be success. You know guess what, they're gonna steal it from us. So, man, if you could make something, That's why I tell people all the time, if I think the idea, if you've got one idea, then you ain't important. To be honest with you, you ain't bout no money if you just got one thing multiple movie exactly because guess what when that so people realize how I stay relevant when that's ain't happened. I got this happened,

I got that happened. I got a thousand other things happening to where even in movies, we could promote anything we want. We don't need the big companies the mone I could promote my shoes. I could put the room. I could do things that we that we we couldn't do back in the days. And we never owned nothing, and so I even can lit my homeboys. So let me tell you to talk about Jesus. You know, me and jes got a record coming out. It's called Gone, So mind ice Cream Man, it's no man on. I

got to hook up to soundtrack. You're about to hear us first time. So we say it's gonna be a cold Something's gonna be a cold something. So you're gonna get the snow man in ice cream Man. So we we man and you get g z and um who's man on the record. Together, you think you can make that happen, I don't. I gave a long shot. Hell, Mary, you know what you just never knew. You never know. I never know because you know what, I've been both of them friends you are and I tell I tell them,

you know, all your friends ain't my friend. All my friends ain't your friends. I just had the same conversation with Young Dogs, you know, because I know you got it. I've been knowing your guy that before. I know Young Dog, but I really like Young Dog. We built the relationship. I would never put them together, but like, I like you, don't like young like like like Yo guy and he

my dude, but young Bul I like Young Dogs. But I'm gonna be real with him and say, look though, I'd never be around both of y'all at the same time because I see what y'all got going or not that that's between y'all, that ain't between me. Like I got music to make, I got movies to make. Whoever want to work with me, y'all work with me. I'm gonna get y'all the real you know what I'm saying. I wish, y'all, I wish we could change all this. We live in the same communities. We don't need to

be doing this. And to think about you, let me just show you the respect that you deserve. See um, you know, grow up up in the hood. Most of the time. We don't listen to the O G s. That's the O G s are still let and the thing of it's not never goddamn solar hip hop. You know we see you every year out here doing what you gotta do, looking good folksting videos in Mr Roger's neighborhood, a way to get your neighbors in your neighbors, it's that shouldn't listen to you. But you know what, it's

real low I can relate. I keep youngces around me. Those people don't realize because I feel like I'm a coach. I'm a life coacher. Coach say my life, that's what basketball did for me. I've been a team player. It's no iron team dog. I don't wanna take this with me. That's why I was trying to give it to Nipsey.

I'm trying to give it to Gucci Man, trying to give it to Jesus, trying to give it the Dolts, trying to give it to your guy to trying to give it the code that I'm gonna give it to the ones that take it, the ones that don't take it. I'm already gonna make sure my kids straight. I gotta do that off top Roman, You're gonna have all the game he needs. That's why he went yet and he listening. I'm not doing this for me. I'm doing this for my kids. I'm about to build a generational girls down

in Hollywood. You know he's knocking more life. I've been hearing allowed. Maybe I shouldn't have said that I got notes, I got you got another one. Guy. You gotta hear what he said. He said trying to generational well generations, which is I think one of the most key important things that people don't understand is we gotta make our kids well. You've got to make the people around us wealthy. Now, the ones that don't listen, dog, look, that's on them. If I give you something saying, if I give you

some money, you blow it. I'm not gonna keep getting I got relative even dudes in the streets of dudes in my hood that's coming. He helped me first. I gotta help my people first. Already did what I could do for y'all. I don't rebuilt the projects. Go look it up. You could get back then in two thousand and nine, they didn't have social media, so nobody know about that. But if you google it, you take your time.

You said, man, I'm the reason y'all land in these places because I went found the man and showed us how to do this, and it didn't be just me. It's a team for me and by still like that because we keep it one hunting with each other. A lot of these dudes do not keeping one hunting and they want you to keep it on real. What's being real? Me not making it out? Me dying in the project

like Dipson. That's real. No, that ain't gonna happen. Me shooting it out with one of them that don't won't see me get what I gotta do help the kids. That's how it's gonna be. If I'm gonna make see and then I'm gonna pop something. To be honest with you, but I come in good, good, good spirit that I come in peace. Leave me alone. I'm trying to help these kids. I ain't got time. I'm trying to build stuff, I'm trying to develop, trying to help the next generation.

I'm trying to make it better than what we have. So that's what you want to kill that you we killed the man, that dog that was gonna help crunch y'all that was gonna help. He know he was the king of that. But now people saying that he got all kinds of ship, put up walls and murals. Think about it. But that's what we gotta tell the generation, even the ones in the hood. Man pull him, little crazy ones on, Man, look what you're going this man doing this help in y'all community. What y'all I got

the million, not a question the ones that's mad. What have y'all done for the community. Who did y'all give something back to? How many kids you took care of? You in the hood, destroying the hood? When you're gonna wake up and say, man, okay, keep your mouth closed if you ain't got nothing positive to see, especially if you ain't doing nothing, because it's easy to talk. I'll tell you all time. If you hate, you ain't getting

no bread. People getting bread ain't hating. They're happy. They's my you see, I'm I'm I live in a mansion. I told the gangs out there and kelt I don't have to be there by y'all liveing. I come out of mansion. Man, I'm coming because I love y'all kids. Ain't coming to get y'all nothing. I'm coming to save y'all kids. I'm gonna get them kids whatever they need. And let me just tell you something, man, I pay attention to everyone's reputation. I pay attention to everyone's and

everyone is your stand up person. You've always been, uh, I think you always will be. And I'm a fan. I'm just a fan of what you, what you din with, what you all the time. Nobody's perfect. I ain't perfect made think about it though, but this is what people say. I don't cheat, though, I don't know if you know that black men don't cheare not cheating, You're so what people don't. The thing that people don't realize man, that we all got twenty four hours. It is what you

do with yours. If you spend your twenty four hours right, you will make some bread. You will come out of it. You will. I don't care how bad you're doing. Do something right. You're smoking and drinking twenty four hours. You ain't gonna have nothing think about. You don't have no job, no business. Just what the hood wants us to do. They want you, they see you on this show. They want you to come back in your hood and just

you do this your job. You got the drink champs you but you you can't go in New York and just sit on the poach and you to make this. You got to work to celebrate. But this, that's what I'm saying. But you celebrate that, you're celebrating the what that comes through that. So my thing is they want you to come back home and just hang out with him. So how are you gonna do anything if you or you ain't really if you ain't hanging out and see

murder the realist think where he imprisoned. That's my brother thinking about when he would see murder was still he was. He said, he comes to see me and I'm the w hotel downtown. Yeah he goes. I'm thinking he gonnae itself sometimes see too real for itself. That's why he wigs that. I pray for him every night. I love him. But if he just yeah, man, if he just if he just listened to a little things, he wouldn't be there because it ain't see. See, he got a good heart.

But it's the people you bring with something. You got to cut the people off that you have that don't think the way you think. You know what I'm saying that they don't think the way you think. People always say, you know you like the people you're around, and that's that's what you gotta realize. I don't care how much money you have, that ain't gonna stop you from going to prison. Because when when when they wanted somebody in that club they want to see that was the biggest ticket.

They didn't care who did They let the dude go? Who did it? Now, you gotta fight for your freedom, and that's what I'm saying. But he hadn't been through this a bunch of times. And so so the thing about this man that we gotta look at what he's going through, hopefully to save with much of these other kids, because that's what he want to come home and do, show these kids that this ain't all with it how many pills they just don't want to the system in Louisiana,

y'all know, it's a different kind of system. Man. So even when they've got no facts or whatever, they make facts you know they created. Man, think about it. This is the worst thing to be a black man in American be eighteen because it's for real for you every time you walk out that dough I didn't walked out that dough with the polies like put your heads onthing, like, come on, man, for real, you know. And then then if they don't know who you is, you're in trouble.

So so you gotta know how to survive out here in the real world. That's why you gotta have your stuff together. My grandmother told me that when she was alive. I didn't get it till she died, you know. She said, you better have your ship together. You walk out this, don't and you better make sure the people around you had the ship together because you might not be coming back home, you know. And we're afraid of the truth.

So if you don't want the truth, don't talk to me because I ain't gonna tell you nothing but the true, whether you like it or not. You know, I'm looking at your risk and it looks like you have with DJ Klar calls a CHANDL layer. Yeah, go on, holy yo, you've been get a lot of money for a lot of times. And you know what, we're proud of you.

You know what, let's make some noise for that. Throughout your whole career, it's lolays been an attachment to making someone else great, and you know, That's something I would love to take from you. Is I want to just keep continuing to me, make someone else great, if it makes someone squak home, make someone else great, Chin being on el guad, Mike on Elqua, and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on or so on a song. But I've learned that lesson from you. So you think about how did you

drop three hundred albums in one year? Man? The manner is with you. I make records. I never wrote a record to pull out me. They gotta pour out me. So the thing is, I tell people you gotta be able to celebrate other people's success if you want to be successful, because hey, hey you can't, well, heye gonna get you at man. Hating gonna get you know whether man angry, dead or imp. You know what I'm saying, Like you mad at this man because he's successful. You ship.

And when I see a guy driving a nice call, what I'm saying, then that's a black man. I could get this. I what's up home, man, how you're doing? That's how I'd be Damn man. Look look he gotta he gotta pens. He got a feeling. Man, A black man and it motivates me. Doc. These haters motivate me to to go hard. You know, every time you have like, Okay, let me go do this on them, then let me go show him this then, you know, because you really don't and and and people say, why are you entertained?

The haters? They need to be entertained. That's the only way they're gonna change. It's a disease, man, it's a sickness. You hating because you ain't gotten. When I was in the project, I'm like, I need to figure out how to get out out of here. Broday. Yeah, but first you gotta figure out how you get out. You know, you're in a bad place if you keep fooling yourself. Oh, I live in the project, but I'm in the mansion. Hold up, dog, don't make sense. I knew I ain't

had no money. I'm in a project. Like I'm hungry. I live in though my grandmother got twelve kids. Everybody eating for me. I'm getting left overs. I appreciate it, but I'm like, damn, I gotta change this. I'm not gonna fake it like it's all good. You know, people, man, it's cool to be in the hood. Who who want. The people in the hood don't really won't be there. They're saying that because they're there, there the opportunity to get some money, they're gone. Let's be ho. That's real, man.

I had relatives when they got a little money. Where the accident was it? Man? They changed up. Hit the numbers, hit the number one, hit the lottery. They're gonna switch it out of me, the numbers, the numbers in the hood. That like, you know, let me check your something. I gotta unt. She was cold. Man. I come by and I know she had gangster because she take me to look here, litt, I need some money. I said, I got you, I got your teeth. I give a ten grahan, right.

She never had ten gran I never gave my so look hu. Before I hit the freeway. A couple hours later, she called me. Yeah, you know they're riding in back here for you. I said, when you had your money and aunt I had in my purse, I knew I should like to keep the money right here. And you know, so she said, Now I went to the I went to the boat and spent it. But I need some more money the boats, you know. So I'm like, that's what we gotta start realizing when you get something, you

never know when you're gonna get get it again. You got to make the best. That's what I did. I took that tin o hand and went turning into million. Somebody give you something, you gotta take take real control and say maybe never gonna get it back. Never you

might not somebody give you something. Who who really give you something in the hood unless they want something given the women out if you did think about a woman coming to you, gonna be like, Okay, I'm gonna give you this, but all right, what we're talking about in your mind, this thing about she bad, you're gonna be well, look what I'm getting. You already know when you're asking that man, you already ready to give something. The same way in the hood, you're coming up to a dude

talking about you need something. He wants something to with what you're gonna do for me, that's the guard holds truth. Stop faking like everybody gonna give you something. They don't have agenda. That's why I don't ask nobody for nothing. I'm going out there and get it the same way them dudes did it. And sometimes if you if you're taking a penitential chance because you have to go do it. But you're taking a penitential chance and you don't have to.

That's stupid. That didn't keep it in Want hunting. Nobody won't be on the block. That don't even the drug deals. I know, they don't want to be there, man, They want to get Why do you think people start crying when they go to prison. They want to get out of jail and be with their families. They start realizing, man, I should to hang with my family. That wouldn't be because you don't see that. You don't appreciate it till it's gone. Think about it. People really don't appreciate what

they have till till it's gone. You know, I don't see more people posting up Bushwick Bill now, like man, Bushwick Bill was out trying to do stuff. He knew what this situation was. How many people really stepped up. I'm talking about the people that I'm sorry to cut you off. You know what, we could step up right now and we could show our gratitude. It's scarfaces running for off. Yeah, it's helping want. I forget what check

check had coming in. I'm endorsing it. Yeah, I didn't want to say it because it's doing now the checker had coming in. I'm endorsing it, and this this to be and when some moves always wanted for other people, do it because I'm not trying to frost. I'll tell you the problem. You keep thinking everything you do it's for cloud because people say that, So what you should do? Nothing? Everything is for cloud? Think about Okay, let's be honest.

Did the record company Atlanta stop putting Nipsey Hustle Records out? His album was out of our way after you get money? Still, let's be honest. Why we ain't made at that? But I hear wrap us up, man, I don't want to put the record out yet because people might think uncle, for what if you did the song with him? That's what he wants. Put it out, left the world here like the only way we're gonna make him live his legacy live. We keep worrying about what people think because

social medi didn't got us thinking crazy. Now you know what I'm saying. Social media should be business if you're a boss and if you have the right thought in mind, and never mind what the anybody else is thinking. Man, Look, we need to stop there letting them make all the money off of us, and we're not doing nothing, and we don't even expose him that man, how do you think he sold millions of records so they should have waited over album that came out last year and nobody

said nothing about it. BT got him up there, forty million people seeing his funeral. We can't get ten people to watch his video when he was alive. Man, come on, man, stop about stop that. I ain't let daldar. You ain't. I've never played my stuff. I don't care. I'm gonna make money. I'm gonna just I say my ownership. I don't. I'm gonna tell the truth. And I like BT, but it's the truth. They need to know that. You to

be honest with you. You know what I'm saying. Don't wait till we're gone to to be like, oh, I'm gonna put you all on spot like you don't need to play my music when I ain't here to vote pick up to title, pick up to massive pill. Because we're out here being fully black media. You're going in already know what I'm saying. I'm saying, but it's a truth. Though we got a whole limit column. So they say, why are we so ignorant? Because they only show negativity.

They don't show positive. They don't show this what we're doing in here, we're getting together, we're killing each other, we're talking, we're having a conversation, having fun thing about salute insolutely celebrating each other. But we were doing negative stuff. Oh man, we'll be front page TMZ. It would be shot at that master piece s something You had an artist sign skull Duggery Penalty Records. How did you realize that you could take take any artists and put them

on any company? How how did you figure that out? Because did you do that before resor that was after you know what to be? Whoever did it? It's all good, it's all good. It's a good uh. My thing is given artists that would never get an opportunity to be on a major label coming from the hood because the people want real street music. And Mr Cool was on job, Msical was on job. We got Msical offer job. Yeah, I like the spirit pnfused brother. That's just good. That's good.

That's just good. I know it's gonna hurt me. That's some good ship. We're gonna keep going to think about it though, if you you're giving all these big artists record deals, why we can't give the ones that had just real talent but just wrong. That's what I looked at. I always deal with the underdogs. Same thing with the movie. If you look at a DC Young, Fat Boy and PO, they would never be in a big movie like this. I got to hook up too. But PO is a real sto man. DC Young fliers a real stuff. He's

a bad guy. Yeah, he's a bad guy, and I got to hook up too, so you know, uh up, Yeah, he ended up riving a ups truck filled with with with phones and y'all know the my phones a thousand dollars of shot at the time, so three hundred phones, that's three hundred grand. So he go in, you know, and everybody looking for him. Man, you know he connected to the Columbians, Juju Girl and the umay, okay, I don't know what you said, big up, big girl. Yeah we got we got she funny black webbing. We can't

understand what the he told about. That's good. So think about Jeez in the movie. What is Jesus? Jesus changed his life like, so he's selling like, uh, some type of helpful he used to used to hustle, but now you got a truck selling helpful and we're trying to get some roll ups from me and got no roll ups. The more we're like, man, come on, you know, so ag kind of going off on them, you know, Blue like, man, I know you ain't really changed, you know, but the

roll up is it? You know? So yeah, now man, this is But but in the movies about the ownership, we own this resting room called Big Pappas. Okay, so you get big papers. It's a real resting room in real life, in real life in New Orleans. But my uncle own it. So it's like this, we're showing that we're losing the business and and what we have to do to come together as a family to say that the movie is that reflecting real life though, let's like

a family on everything. Let's make so in the in the premiere, we to be doing the premiere New Orleans instead of Hollywood. We take it. We're taking Hollywood to New Orleans. July fifth, in New Orleans doing Essence and you know that's successible. That's successible. We're having a big premiere down everybody coming. Uh, it's gonna be crazy. Can we do in Miami premiere, Yeah, we're gonna do. We got you and in New York we got you. Master.

Let me just tell you something, man, because there's so many people, like, so many artists and so many platforms that would you know, well, beat you up. You know when I want to tell you, man, everything you did for hip hop, everything you brung the hip hop, everything you contributed to hip hop has to be saluted, whether if you're a New York nigga, whether you're for a South niga where you're for a West Coast nigga, whether if you're a nigga, or whether if you're not even

a nigger. You deserved this is real ship. Like I just remember, just listen, by the way, my first time in New Orleans as a grown man, I didn't even realize Latinos was there because I looked about it about it, I said, it ain't a Latino Yeah yeah, and I look at us. I had no idea like once the one with to New Orleans, and I said, holy ship, it's not like the rest of the country. It's the molching part a lot of every no, but we would have never thought about New Orleans. I would never went

to New Orleans. I would never visit it if it wasn't because of your movement. But your movement is not just powerful to me. I want to just tell you how big it is you change people live everybody. You literally had people live in the same as you, following the same footsteps you literally Just in case you didn't know, I want to tell you this, face to face, man and man, that you are so appreciative and hip hop

and hip hop wouldn't be hip hop without you. That there's so many artists from a Jez to a Rick Ross to all this I can I can name fifteen hundred people that if it wasn't for you, it wouldn't be of them. So in case you didn't know that, I wanted to tell you that face to face, man and man, you appreciate it. You're one of the biggest legends, and you're one of the people that super wretched it. And if we got we gotta we gotta listen to you.

So if you tell me not to wear pink again, look like pink today, I don't know what I'm trying to try, like getting like the oppressive. But if you tell me, I don't know, you made it to a promised you made the place that and you know what my job is to salute what you did, where you come from, what you're doing, and who the fuck you are. No, man, but that up this way started, man, and I didn't finished. I got some people that I really want to take to the next level. I got a guy named King

Royal of Toledo, Ohio. I think he's the next big store. I got heel had never been done before. I guys. I got some girls called O s Os like they're the next big street girl group. And they got a lot of hot records, you know, the name of the group. What I like about them? Saying, well what what os os?

Then for? They say, own some other ship? I said, let's let's go, like they really you know, one from one from one from Looysville, which never been done, one from the Bay Kentucky, Looisville, Kentucky, one from the Bay, and one from all New Orleans. So yeah, so they're going into young you know, young Miami State girls and oh no, they're thinking about this is a lot of room for everybody, though, see what I'm saying. That's I keep telling y'all, look at this. We can put shoes

all around. Everybody got a business because we're only gonna see one group. Think about how they called it be was the year before that it was Nicki mcna you know mea ax all it just keep going. Is one of the best female we need. And I see, let me just say something, how much of a bigger fan of I am? For me as I don't know if you know she's on East bounding down on HBO. You know that you gotta be a real mea ex fan. So let me tell yourselfing Max is a real gangster.

She was tell you how and my cousin ho boy that was that was her boyfriend. No I, I look at this, yeah, and me a heart is so pure man like like she she's gonna tell you was on. Then That's what I like about even if I'm doing she ever looked, She's gonna tell you. And that's the type of people I want around. And that's why you know, with a matter of fact, we're doing the Reunion tour. We're doing the Reunion no limit me, Mysico, Silk Miles, feed Crazy. We're gonna be starting off in Denver on

the August second. So yall, yeah, yeah, you can smoke all day we had the smoke chances right here, I'm smoking on shine all day and I've been smoking on smoke chance. It's going down. I'm sorry, go ahead, yeah man. I was just saying, like, this is the year the females, you know, shout out to uh to to city girls all of the I mean you got a female group, yeah, yeah, man, the girls that are out now Megan Still you know, yeah, man, she nice? Man, Um Jackie who we cash Dog, cash

Dog cash Dog in the movie cast Dog. Y'all, y'all get for it, rapsod and out there, but you know we ain't gonna we might miss somebody. But you know what you're saying, like for us, well, I say cash Dog. I liked the way she cared for herself. She came on the movie, said she was a lady, she was one hunting. She sent me a song for she redid mystical here I go, oh yeah, for a female dumb like, hold up, you're tripping. But when I got the record,

I said, you own. She don't gotta hit Jimmy know, she don't gotta hit good, Lucas, she gotta hit good. The record is nice too. Goddamn it. I got you want to come over here and say so what Yeah, well, you know, right now you gotta fall back because he kind of like got in trouble for doing that putting putting, putting music out like that. So we just yeah, like we really just we're just praying and trying to let this time go by so he could get an opportunity

that took to come home. So yeah, we we can't putting the music out right now. Well. Also, um, you know when Murder like you know, you know, said a couple of things about to change. Yeah, I was the one that called to change and I said no response needed. Yeah, I cannot not like to be honest with your man to Chain is probably one of the most talented brothers, and the dudes want to let me chell you something to change. I definitely want to do some work with him.

I want to get something do something with too change because he keeping wanting. I mean, he does what I'm saying, even like I told see, it's like I don't care. Let that man do whatever he could. Dude, man, you can't do nothing with it right now. Let's be honest. Lest somebody to do. Somebody keeping your legs and going you know at least keeping the name out, you know. So that's how I look at it. I don't let's make a positive out of it. That's true, you know,

Like that's the case. We get mad at everybody. We got a problem. It ain't no being nobody else. You know, let's be if you really living like that. But if you're faking. Yeah, man, stop all that. You're just making a whole bunch of emotion for nothing. I don't I don't mind telling them, dude, you stepped on my man. I'm sorry, bro, but I'm in it like this. Yeah, because you've been one of the most immolated artists ever. Yeah. People really literally take what you do and you can

actually see like that's masterpe. You've never once been like a little bit like offended. Never never never, man even even see somebody. Never because I made my money what I needed. If you got money, you have it. If you thank you keep me going like man, to see what's happening out here right now with this generation. Man, they're supposed to do what they gotta do. Man, we gotta stop. That's why I can still hang with the youngsters. They know I ain't sitting what you're gonna be some

grumping dude, because it ain't your time. No, look at Michael Jordan them he ain't playing the NBA. They're happy they're making money. Yeah, I don't. I don't mind sitting on the sideline watching the youngsters. Man, don't do it. You know what I'm saying. I did it. I want you matter I fact, I want you to do it better than me. That's when I know we're gonna build a generation. We can't build on generational well with everybody

being pop, I don't know what more th access killed it. Listen, let me tell you something, master opinion, let go before everybody lap. When we started this podcast, we wanted to interview people like you who's been in this game. It's been relevant because people use that word relevant. That word relevant is a fucking foul fucking words because Apparson, it's a foul world revant because relevant is relevant to the

people who's relevant to the relevancy. Meaning, if you ask Soldier Boy fans it's Master p relevant, they'll say no. Then you ask Master Peace fans it's Soldiery relevant. I don't say hell no, you ask drink Chance mans. And it's so on and so both. It's so relevant means nothing. It's to the people who are you in then where I don't and I don't focus on the world at all, but in my world. Yeah, but if you put your trust and gold, you don't got the worry about that.

You have a motherfucking god of my world. And I got to beg you to fuck up. You deserve it and the ship you did. I wanted to go to New Orleans. I think I never been to Jamaica. Queens at this time come from the other side of the queen my goals. Yet I almost got killed trying to get about verse. Yeah, and I really didn't know that this killers outside of New York to that moment. So Nigga said, what are you out here for us? I'm

looking about about it now, man. But we got, like you said, we got change that mindset, man, because even I look at New Orleans a different way now that that I'm not there, because at that time we was a murder capital of the world, three hundred thousand people. Chicago had eight millions. We had more murders than Chicago. That like, we gotta stop that because we are using our brains thinking about when we start using that now

we know, we know how to get money. We don't know how to keep it, and we don't know what to do with it, and we don't know how to spend it. So we have to educate ourselves on financially. But we have to grow. You know, people always use that word that they're in the ghetto. Man, how you get out together? You gotta outthink the system, especially if you gotta you gotta want to change. I tell people

broke being broken as a mindset. So when we start changing our mindset and start growing, we could do it and we could build big old builders. We could come back and rejuvenate. We could go buy stuff, you know, we could buy clothing and start closing companies. You know, back then, I had a dog, Like nobody there an think. I was crazy, like, man, you're gonna make the dog the dog to make him saying dog? You know? You know what I'm so like, you can gentrify your own

neighborhood exactly, exactly. And that's what this movie I got to hook up to is about, too, man, gentrification. What date is that out? July twelve, July twelfth, motherfucker's If your motherfucker's ain't out there, we're doing your master I can't thank you enough. Man, Listen to tell you something. I'm so blowing a way that you came in, you

did what you had to do. Thank you so much, I really and let me just tell you something any time you want to anything, because I don't know if you understand the power of this ship, because this is hip hop, control of hip hop. It's the first show control of hip hop. Like we are on I know the owner, every fucking person, no one, no one. I just want to tell you this before I leave. Man, I'm proud of you, my brother, Thank you for doing what you do. Continue, list Let's keep building, you know,

let's not forget about the next generation. And the only way we're gonna keep this going is we have to do it as us helping us. And so I'm proud of what you're doing, taking your time, bringing brothers together. You know what I'm saying. I feel like everything happens in Guard's time, you know what I'm saying. And this, this is something that needed to happen. You know what I'm saying. Damn it, this ship is sucking me up. You gotta do a couple of drops, yeah, yeah, and they're good