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is your boy in O R? What up is d J E f And this is Drink Chance, motherfucking podcast? Makes up? Now? Now? Now. When we started this podcast, we said we wanted we want to enter interview legends. We want people that's been out this game, has been in this game for ten years or more and it's still monkey foot stopping. People like to come under the table with the dirty timberlins on the side of your mouth. This guy has been doing stand up, had his first
gig at fourteen or some ship like this. This man is still around. The baby, he's still around. He's been on Death Comedy Jam before you even knew what death Jam was. He's been out here He've been from Jerry McGuire to the Little Type of Different Movies to Mad TV one of the lottlest running cast members. When you think a king of comedy, I think him and it
can't as impresses in the world. In case you don't know what that A crazy thing about you is a lot of people say they have rich history and comedy, right, you actually have used to be in comedy, like I mean from the beginning, like you know, going like, did you have your first game at fourteen or was it sixties? Started at fourteen? I started at fourteen, So what was that comedic? It was being or just being entertainment? You
know how straight comedy I started? You know, I came up through the ranks of Jersey and New York Bill Bellamy h Clubs fourteen in New York and to go blues Peppermint Lounge. He started, I'm so sorry to come back. Your first show was at Uptown Comedy Club? Was that true? That was my first show ever? That's why I want to read your ship. They playing with me. My first show I ever had was an Uptown comedy club. We read that about you. I was like, holy ship, Yeah,
isn't the other one a little colder. Yeah, yeah, yeah, come on, come on, you know pop, come on, Steve got colder. But so yeah, I first went to the improv with my mother and my sister back when you had to draw numbers out of a hat. So we all put in numbers. None of us got it, so, you know, feeling deflated, some probably pulled my mom's aside and said, you know, they got Uptown Comedy Club at Hall, and you know, we jumped on the train went up.
There was about the Cotton Club. I can't remember that year. You know, what's the numbers that when you're pulling the numbers? Was that mean? Just put drawing numbers in a hat? So open mic? Now, okay, So I didn't get that, so I said go down to the Uptown and uh, you know, I really didn't even have material that I just would do, like like impression, So I did like James Brown. So you started doing impression from the game from the gate. It was my Yeah, that was my
I'm eighties baby. So I grew up watching Eddie on S and Now, and uh, Eddie was doing the impression stay. My first impression ever was Louis Armstrong because my mother's a jazz blues singer. So moms and Pops will play that when Pops was getting it in. So when I heard potato but don't know what you say, Pops is blowing Mom's back out. So you know, you know, I'm
an eighties baby. I grew up on TV, so Eddie was my first heavy influence in so I just went to the uptown and I did like three impressions doing Pepsi commercial squad. Uh and you know from the bug bit me, I killed it and uh I was I've been in it ever since. Man. So so um, I'm sorry, I'm jumping around, but I'm gonna get you straight to it because it was Here's what I gotta say. I look about you. Uh, you're on time and you don't like this stim for being super late, but the sticking
runs like a Jewish man. I'm gonna tell you something. I'm gonna tell you nothing. Um. It was different for me because when I became a CEO, I realized that that was one of the things that these people don't want is to waste your time. So I always always be on top of let me, let me, let me get back to you, right because one of the illest things that I watched you all day today, so literally you've been on my mind this whole day. Right. Um. One of the things that you that you said that
was very interesting to me. You said, when the person doesn't stand up, that's supposed to be all you supposed to be one on one with the uh, the audience, and there's certain people who have help. Do you still feel that that way or or is it because the best ones don't have Because let me just tell you why. I watched like three or young DRIs. You literally have me in teests. So I'm sitting around like damn, so
I could understand you're frustrating. And when I heard you say it, at first, I didn't understand until I say your ship, and I said, I can understand how you bust your ass or your ship. You you literally told a bit huh pussy tastes like cold fresh fries. Holy you want to tell somebody that, man? So I'm just saying,
so you're talking about ghostwriting? Yeah yeah, because basically, so I'm I look at it like R and B right like, but then when I heard your point of view and you're saying, man, if I go out there and I'm busting my ass, like you expect that. Is that something you still feel or yeah, I mean because it's like, look, I can't and maybe the is a question for you
to answer. Maybe it's different in the rap game because I know some rappers have ghost writers, but I know that I know for comedy, the best motherfucker's it is you. Because you know, every every comic wants to come out and have the joke be a Grand Slam home run. That's always the intention, but that's not always the case. From the time you say hello to the time you say good night and everything in between. We want every joke to be a Mike Tyson punch from the eighties.
Everything is strong with bad intentions, not like now now, but right now. You know what we all want everything to be done. Question. But you know, as you sit there as an artist and you mode that piece of clay, you're looking for perfection. You're looking for your piece to be the Mona Lisa. And it's like if someone comes along and gives you like sometimes when you do a joke, you might not have it where it's perfec. Again, you're missing a key ingredient, whether it's a facial expression, a
physical move, a one liner. And if somebody comes to you and goes, hey, do this, do this face, add this little this little thing right here, and that's the difference between where your ship was here too now here. That's you. Oh, that's them. That's the steroid. Somebody just gave you the steroid to make you do what you gotta do. So for you to be able to take on your own accord and create that ship with no help to where you got a classic, that's you. You're
the artist. You're the only one that did that. But if somebody gives you that key ingredient to make your gumbo the winning gumbo, is it is? It? Is it you? That's what I'm saying. Is either or wrong, right, I mean, it depends on it from an artist in the individual is on the individual, you know what what you're striving for, you know what I'm saying. Like when I when I talked about, you know, the Kevin Hard situation, my mother was like, well, you know, Richard Pryor had Paul Mooney wretchtion.
Paul Mooney wrote for Richard Pryor on the Richard Pryor Show. That's a TV show. That's not stand up for a TV show. There's a lot of parts in that. It's an ensemble cast. You need writers TV. It's TV. But for stand up, that's boxing, that's you. Nobody in that ring but you. That's how it should be. Yeah, I
didn't like when you said it. I really no, No, I really suggest people go, like, look up what you do because the thing about it is like, you know, I got to look at the comments because this is what I gotta do because I'm only I'm gonna cut you. But even I even had somebody saying the YouTube comments when I said that, well, don't. If you look at the credits for Raw, it says Robert Townsend and Kei
and Ivery Wains, they didn't write a stand up. They wrote the skin in the beginning, kicked him in the ding ding, thank you, that's what they did. And he wrote his own stand up. And even Paul Mooney said the interview, I don't write for Richard Genes. You watch Richard Richard. I would watch rich and go I think that's genius. Richard did not need my husband. They can't stop of that. Goddamn, that is scary. You don't think something like that. White men made noises like that. Yeah,
one of the craziest lines I heard you say. It was you said everybody is a little bit racist. Now I agree with that, but I wanted to correct the statement because racist implies that you have some type of power. So I want to say, everybody's prejudice. Yes, everyone's prejudice. So you look up the real definition of racism. That's a palmony. Palmony spoke on that and said, you know, when you look up racist by definition, I can't be
racist because it's a power. Right. Yeah. So so when I heard you say that, and I'm so sorry to my people, but if I was, you know, go outside right now. And I was to see Asian person get to a car accident, it doesn't matter who the other person, you know what, it makes me like, I think it's that person. Like I'm just saying I've never seen the Asian um actually get into an accident, but but what I've heard, I think that they're not just traps because
steral Now that's the sterotypes. But stereotypes exist because there's truth, because it's ticket. I ain't gone a single person, but there's a good amount of course. You know, I always tell people it's like, look, do all black women have fat asses. No, I've seen black women with ask this flattest note of paper. It's like it is white tigers in the wild. They do exist, but that's not the
norm most black women have. The white tigers exists. Yeah, so I really agree with that because like, like, it's certainly the white tigers. No stereotypes. There's certain stereotypes. That's one hundreds dead on, you know what I'm saying, Like, uh, like us liking chicken like that, then really be funny without stereotypes. Let's just about blacks chicken body. People love chicken too, but it's more of a passion with us. That's why we keep hot sauce and not glove comball.
That's why people don't keep it with hot sauces. Yeah, I'm Franks. Are you a Franks guy? Kind of slicy? Catchup, nigger, step off the sauce. You have spicy white man? Mask's white. I like, I like the Spanish ship. What's the l A ship? Ships? The l A ship? Tato? No, the
sounds Asian, the um is it? Oh? No, you're you're thinking of the well No, no, just say I think I know what he saw coming that cream, that clear bottom with the green tip and they just certainly your sauce it is, but it is it's l A hot sauce like only see and you live in l A like so you so you you're born in Jersey, that York, New York. Then you moved to Jersey. I didn't move to l A, Jersey, d in l A. How how like?
And now as you moved to l A, you were in the business, correct, So how different was that coming from the East Coast? Like you still look like a straight up New York dude, I believe, But I moved out to l A. The sweatwrag. You always have a sweatwrag usually do gonna need the moment you see a little point. You see the little point, You're man, Craig Robinson. Um, you know a lot of New Yorkers looked down on l A. But when I moved there, I was eighteen seventeen.
So everything became mine for the first time, first piece of pussy, first house, first call, my first independence. So l A has become my home because I grew up there in a sense of becoming a man. When I was in Jersey and New York, I was living in my mama house. So I was still under her roof and her rules and regulations. And New York we got Puerto Ricans and l A, you got Mexican Mexicans like your Mexican impression too, And listen, I love Spanish. My
two kids baby mother is Puerto Rican. Uh. And you know they you know Mexican girls, they're cool, but you know the bitches be heavy with the drawing the face on what I'm saying, create your own eyebrows. Puerto Rican women and beniqus have a different kind of sex, you know what I mean. My heart it's always attached to East Coast. But I love that l A man I do, man, I love l A too. Man. Let me ask you something that you said at one point that white people
are actually the drink champs. Like the white people, Oh yeah, because like they drink different. Well, they drink to get blasted. And he tell you that day to get like they drinking with the sole purpose of being knocked the blacking out niggas. We we we we drink to get nice, you know, like we gotta stay because I got a
white friend to right. But let me just tell you this is this is the one time I felt like white privilege one day we were walking and I'm walking with him obviously, and we're walking through somewhere I know where that's supposed to walk through because my police there. So the police officer says, hey, guys, you gotta get out of there. He said, what law Office fourteen forty four says, Then we didn't want I looked, I said,
I'm with him. Looked at me like, I know you know better that it's a weird climbing because you see all the clips on YouTube where some brothers stand their ground with the cops and they say, they give me your badge number and they break down what I know what the law is. Hats off to your brothers, But that scout him, that's that's a braise, scary, stupid mistake. I'm just saying, I'm not trying to be you know, it's nice that you can stay the law and you're
standing your round with them. Niggas will kill you, so you're playing roulette with your life. You know what I'm saying. It's like we we've been new the law, we know the law better than anybody. But that's a dangerous game, very dangerous, very dangerous. So what what what? What? What? What is the best thing about comedy besides you releasing
your pain, because that's what I start to notice. What I started to do today was obviously I started to search you, and when I search you, other names come up. So I start to look and I started to notice that this is this is it that you guys have to go through some type of dramatic thing to write something funny about it, or it just comes naturally when you're writing your material. I think the best ones that
just comes naturally, you know, like anything else. I don't care what kind of artists you are, sports, rapping, singing, dancing, comedy. The best ship is organic when it flows. As Michael Jordan would say, you know, let you know, don't chase the game, let it come to you. You know what I'm saying, relax, uh, And I mean comedy is moist. Now you know we're a moist era. Well, they have to watch when they say I'm Floridian with my comedy.
I stay in my ground listening and I'm playing a weird game because while everybody's looking to conform to the status quot because everybody is worried about the climate of sensitivity, I really really believe that this ship is gonna be a backlash and it's gonna come back around. And when it does, I want people to people to be able to say he never wavered. It was always him, while some people will go, well, such and such seems different now because they're trying to match the climate. And I
don't ever want to watch it's gonna he said. He said he doesn't care about people's feelings, like as long as he's funny, like, he don't care like if he hurts somebody's feelings in the process, if he said, because you know, everyone's so sensitive right now, and the thing about it, you can feel like you feel like it's it handcuffs on comedy because because of that, I know you outside the box. But I think it's handcuffs on comics if you let it be, you know what I'm saying.
I'm not gonna let it be because I I just but first of all, you know, Hollywood don't like me much anyway, So what the funk I look like trying to song and dance and do jazz hands for approval I don't have to begin with. So you know, I'm gonna continue to do with how I do it and hopefully not going on what and it comes around. You know what I'm saying, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna switch my ship up so i can fall in line with everybody else. That's corny to me. You know what
I'm saying. What he's saying, it seems like it's beyond Hollywood. It's like becoming the status quo, the politically correctness bullshit. But I listen, man, I look at it like Prohibition era. You know, this is America. Anybody that knows the history of this country. Americans are arrogant. We don't like to be told what we can and can't do. So it's like prohibition. It's like people want to drink, They're wanna have a good time. They don't want nothing to take
away from having a good time. So if being not politically correct and saying wild ship because that's how you feel, provides and entertainment for an audience, people are gonna want that because they're gonna get tired of being told off political correctness and it's gonna backlash. And when it does, like I said, I want to be one of the people that they go. Also, you know, he stood his ground, he didn't fake it. I see one special you said that.
You said, you said, I say the N word, I say the F word and the C words, right ship, But I'll make for the midgets revenge ship. It seemed that comedy would be the political one. It's supposed to supposedly the US stands for. You know, you don't want to say the name. A group of minds called the retards. But I was very scared. Yeah, that's the group called the total retards. No, no, the first of them. I was in a game called the Retards when I was growing up. That's a fact. So when I became famous,
this is the dupest name in the world. But let me just go with it. But then I was like, damn or politically correctly And to you said, you're worried about politically correctness, I mean it was me. I was at the time. I was trying to keep some money. So yeah, so I was like yeah, and I was like, you know what, certain people are offended, but I didn't mean it how they how they was taking it. I meant it, And like, you know, we were tarding, like
that retarded, this retarded, not you do a joke. I know. I seem about to be several balls about what I said. At some point, I said, uh, you know how black people keep hot sauce in their golf compartment. It's like I keep skip peinting butter in case I run into a retarded bit. SI pet Butter and Jack hard like this Pbnb and Jake's this creet taking it by retarded bit with that bigger, big, big everybody handicap what I talking about handicaps. But here's the thing, here's what's funny
about it. When I've had people show up in my at my shows that are mentally challenged, retarded, they love it. They want to be made fun of, just like they don't want to be looked at his victims. Now I've had him come up. Men, they love it. But nobody wants to be in seclusion from, you know, being a part of what's deemed everybody else, you know, fun that ship. Is there such thing as going too far in comedy? Yeah, But like Dave Chappelle said, you don't know where the
line is till you cross it. You know what I'm saying, So you gotta cross it. I do a joke right now where I make fun of Dr King getting assassinated, because really he was on the balcony after he was even pussy in the motel room. I wasn't going to say, you know, but when you hear he goes old though he goes out, it's like, oh, that's historic my blackness. Try to tonight like you know, to this day, I know I'm strang changing the stuff. Let me take something.
Here's what j ain't do it. He did not do it, comed O j O j did not do it. I listen, I hung out o J. I per accident murderers. I remember my purpose murderers. Oh, j Ain't got it in him. I don't know if it's not blackness taking over, it's a little bit of you black. But I swear to god, I didn't get the juice and I'll be like he but now this is one does make me come down. And he told us basically lost stop stop stop these guys.
Let me spread You told him your original le murder if he said yeah, But that listen, that's the thing about old Ja. He plays on it. He definitely plays here. That's a bullship. That's a bull ship. Like like I didn't notice that. I don't think he did it. I still seriously don't think he did. Like I know, I'm just playing it he did, I would have don't think he did it, but I weally don't think Michael Jackson didn't either. I mean, why if you have to go
ask you what why? What? Like? Are you really saying him and Michael didn't do it? Because that's your black I've never met Michael. I met o Ja and there were a certain things. Now, he could be a great actor. He did do neck a gun or don't understand? To me, that's a materpiecet to me, that's a masterpiece, my brother, to me, so so. But I didn't come up. You know, I know people who have that bad gene and them that bad such as a and that. You know, I'm
trying to to to look at it. It's either he's a great actor or he really don't have that in into him. Now, I can't say that he like the person that did it, good friend. Did he call him after and say I did it? And he said he held it down from there? But him actually doing it, I just can't see you think Kelly did it. Oh yeah, I could have ye. Let me tell you why, Let me tell you why. I tell you what I'm gonna tell you why. I also did a record of Kelly.
I'll be honest, I'm telling that you. It's the only record that I got, the Soul over ten million. I have no other records, so I keep my plaque. Okay, your plane is dirty dirty? Actually ordered another one? Is I lost it? Right? So anyway, so when I went to record to r Kelly, Um, it's actually the same story that Pump Daddy had. He was actually playing basketball. I'm in Chicago, and I'm like, I didn't feel important, Like what the funk am I waiting around watching this
growing as man playing basketball? So he said, you know, if you wanted to just go to studio and later verse. So I went to the studio and in each studio I saw a bed. Mind you bunk beds? No, just a bad studios, wondering that's abnormal. Nigga say't have no beds in the studio, but they get some money. The thing was this, I just came from Bearsville, Bill. It was a place where you be secluded for two months and you had actual, um, you know, bedrooms in the
studio because you slept there. So it never rung the alarm to me until I watched the documentary when I watched the documentary and he was like each girl had beds in the studio. I was like, oh, ship, I don't saw that, Like I literally saw that. But that's the reason why I believe. And I actually did see him eat somebody's ass. What's on video? That was on age girl? Yeah, didn't we all see that? Ship? I mean that ship saw that it was the first Netflix.
It wasn't it like that was the first Netflix and it wasn't that. It was some Flix. But U so, yeah, I believe I did it. I believe that, But the juice I don't believe did it. And Mike I don't believe did it. Then you think that's my blackness a little bit. Black people we you know, we we prod to protect our all, especially why our heroes, because they tear our heroes down so much. So it's it's an instinct, an internal in thing to one heard. You said you
didn't believe Bill until eight d nine. Yeah you know he did four You said, damn, Bill, you sucked up. I mean number of amount of people year player when when Bill Cosby did for black people because of the Cosby Show. It's such a you know, an accomplishment a man on a sophisticated level. So you know, again there's an automatic loyalty to that. And he predicted Brooklyn to be gentified, yes, because he was in He was in a life part of brook and no one knew what
part of Brooklyn that was. People get caught up in celebrities so much that they act like celebrities are immune from having sicknesses. You know what I'm saying, You ain't got to be a regular person to have a sick fetish or to be fucked up. It's just them's got money, but they get fame. So what was he doing. He was slipping Mickey's I want you to drink listen special
whatever poss on the word. Yeah, you know, it's funny about the bio situation, not to make fun of fun of it, but the thing about it was he denounced hip hop. He didn't he announced comedians who who cursed and used the N word. So it's crazy that when it came back to it that he needed his corner. Was he needed a famous female comedian told me a story that uh Bill Cosby actually tried to shut deaf
comedy jam down. He tried, he talked to d L. He didn't want uh, And he had said that he did some radio interview with DL Hughley and he even had his people get ahold of the tape. But he didn't want deaf jam to happen because of all the profanity, and he was worried that black people was gonna make us look bad with all the pussy jeans. Will he's slipping negga some ship, he Hyppochristmas, he slipping something, he
slipper any of it. Yeah, that's crazy. So you don't think there's no truth to that conspiracy that he was about to buy the networks. When I hear my not hear black people say that, I think that's absolutely ridiculous. Listen, people go, well, uh, he couldn't afford and he couldn't afford NBC or he was gonna listen, they weren't selling it. It wasn't enough for sale. He could have afforded it,
but they're not selling that. White people are not giving away power and to be able to project how black people are seen all over the world from an image as power, and they're not gonna give him that kind of power. They let Harvey pay his way out and pay his way out. And this was ship from yet last year. Yeah, and Bill said twenty years ago, and they got him doing time. They do niggas dirty or even rich, even rich, they will lock you up with your money right there. Um, comedy is such a a
context for it. I didn't realize it until I'm actually going through that. You guys, Damn, they're taking the ship the rappers right now, like you think it's got bit with each other, like you know, I don't. I don't. I don't really know about that. I mean, I mean, you know, there's there's small little things here and there. But I've you know, I've never had a beef really
with anybody. You know. I've been opinionated about ship and people take that as beef, but I've never officially said, oh I don't like this cat, or I have a problem with this cat. Like I said, I'm just opinionated, and and motherfucker's be so delicate now that it's almost like having an opinion means you're a hater. Not going with the grain means you're a hater. It's like, why am I wrong just because I don't agree with your
assessment pensions? Sometimes but sometimes I just can't be publicly because anytime you have your voice opinion publicly, and a person can publicly react to that opinion, and then it just keeps going on. Sometimes, if I have something bad to say about something, or if I don't like something about somebody, I just don't say it because I know they're gonna take it as I'm hating. As opposed to
happen that opinion. I know, but I think that's unfortunate that you should be you have to shun your thoughts because you're worried about being labeled a hater. You know, I think that's one of the most overused words in the world. It's like, you know, if it be one thing, if I said, oh, this person is is garbage as a comedian. And again I've never said that about anybody that I've been accused of saying that about. I just had a difference of opinion, you know what I'm saying.
Sometimes I can recognize the genius at the comic, but he don't necessarily make me laugh. I'm not saying he's a bad comic. He just don't do it for me. But I see the genius. I see the genius said it. You know, So how about you, Because you've heard your opinions on people getting goals goales written for But how about you have people come to you and say, you're Arey,
I want you to write this for me. I want you to help out with this and then with your stance on that yeah towards that year, and I say no, yeah man, because I can't be your voice, you know what I'm saying. Plus for me to write for you, I'm too busy going to be thinking about how I would do it, to make it as funny as it could be, and what I might give it you might not be comfortable with, you know what I'm saying. I can make a suggestion and if you follow it, that's
that's up. But okay, but if the person comes to you for movies, but stand up. You wanted to come from the yeah man, because again, like I said, my my my heroes in life Michael Jordan's Ali Tyson, and I try to approach my comedy like Tyson in the eighties. Like I said, I want, like every joke to try to knock your head into the nose bleeds. You know. I don't want no soft spots in my set. Like when I look at some of the greatest rappers you know, you buy a NAS album, a jay Z album, a
Jadakiss album. From track one to two, you might get one tracks or two that you go all right, but the rest you're like, yo, there's no weak spots. So I don't want to be one of these comics who come out do an hour. You go, fifteen minutes was great, the other ten and then the next five is kind of strong. I want from Hello to good night for you to be checking your tear ducks and you're getting to have work out. I'm trying to destroy it. You was killing this. So let me ask you what are
you like more? Being on film like like according like movies or things like that, all being on standard, you know, they all they all got they they blessing and they curse. Uh. From a stand up, from an ego standpoint, you know, nothing is more gratifying than being a comedian. Because I saw your producer to writer director you just start. You do a movie and a TV show. Them is the writer's words. Sometimes it's the director's vision that they they
give you in terms of direction. Sometimes it's a producer's call. You know, So it ain't all you, which can be a good thing too because it's like a team sport. You're playing off your man and if you've got a good teammate who knows how to hit you with the no look or the whip whop, you know, and then make your game better. Nothing better than doing a scene with an actor and this motherfucker's so tight. You gotta
tighten up your game. So now you're not You're on the same team, but you're competing, you know what I mean, because he's like, Okay, I gotta step my ship up because this nig is a beast with stand up is you were alone? Man rises rise and fail? You know you alone? Did you feel that? Mad TV? Like? What was that? Absolutely? You know the crew I had again, if and put it in basketball terms, we was like
a championship team. You know, we knew we we knew where we had to be, We knew each other's weaknesses, each other's good spots, we knew where the person like the ball. So we just knew how to playoff of each other in such a strong way that it made for a great show. Unfortunately, you know, we wasn't Saturday Night Live. That was like you just just like you're right, we were the competition. But but The fact of the matter is, no matter how good we were, it's like
you know the NFL versus CFL. You know, Saturday Night Live, this Big Leagues, that's that's NFL man and and and you know the people that watched us would say, you guys way better than them. But we ain't them. You know what I'm saying. They was the bully on the block, no matter how bad they were. Let let me pick up to sean paper's real quickly smoking these out and I ain't even smoking. You're not doing it. I'm gonna
ask because I'll have something special for you. Yeah, yeah, I did the smoke box would be real twice and I chapped out. Okay, yeah, no, no, don't, but let me pick up to be real, um, because the smoke box is very ill. But I'm gonna be honest. I don't like hot boxing. Even when I'm in my whip and I smoke, I gotta roll the riddle down a little bit. So pick him up and he does that ship every motherfucking day, you know what I'm saying, every motherfucking day. So one thing you said, uh you quoted
as statistics. You said Obama had nineties seven sent of the black vote. Yeah, I didn't know that. Well, yeah, it was pretty much up there. It's pretty much all of it. Yeah, the ones who didn't vote for him was the cool niggas people. I just didn't vote. Who know, it's cool niggas. If he had the cool niggas too, he'd have been at a hunt. But that's crazy. That's crazy, man. Um. And you also said you don't smoke weed with Asians. Yeah, that's specific as that. Let me tell you something. Some
of that ship is you know, it's entertainment. I would smoke your MySpace paper, I would smoke weed with Asians. But the punchline lies in the stereotype, you know what I mean? Because you know, I don't want to smoke with somebody it looks like they did and blow my eye and their eyes the three quarters closed. So now, um, I've heard you say this before, and I'm very very curious to to actually hear you say this in person. You said that you you're a black ball at one point,
I still do. Okay, now for people who's you know, who's not aware of what black ball means? Right, Um, can you describe with black ball is? And then not only that, say why you felt you will you will be a black ball. Uh. You know, black ball is when they put you in the book. You know what I'm saying. Where it's like, you know, it don't matter how talented you off you in the book, They're not
fucking with you. Uh. And listen, do I do? I technically know for a fact that I am, of course not um And every now and then, you know, I book a job here and there, so maybe I'm not. But but I don't think I'm on the top of the list when it comes time to cast for certain projects or whatever project. Um. And that's partly because you know, again, I'm again, I'm opinionated, man, and I tend not to hold back. And you know I'm not out here trying
to maliciously say things for effect. I'm just telling you how I feel, telling you what I think, and giving it to you honestly. And uh. And I talked a lot about racing interviews, you know, when I've done a lot of my lad TV interviews. The thing I said about the white people in the Jedi mind trick. You know, when you read the comments white folks, the Maynaise people don't be happy. Man. You know what I mean because
that that that truth is tough. But what was it a specific moment where he was like, you know what, I feel like I'm black ball from from this moment. Like, no, not really a specific moment. It's just it's just a
vibe that I feel, you know. Well, actually here let me tell you, Uh, Kevin Hard I think he still has a cartoon coming out where you know, he that that thing in his joke where goes alright, alright, alright, And in the cartoon, auditioned for the role of his dad, you know, so you know, Kevin has his own voice. Obviously he's gonna do it like himself. And I put a little flavor into what my interpretation of what his dad would be. And uh, I had hosted Behavior and
Point Awards I think was last year. I think you hosted Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, is that a porn So we had a pre party in l A. And I didn't get chosen for that though. They just called they called my agent him was like, we want him to to host the Point of Work ship. Yeah. He having top show musical guests, I mean one a huge production. Yeah, I was one of the one that I did. But at the at the at the pre porn party. My manager came up to me, was like, I gotta tell
you the cartoon you auditioned for. Kevin wanted you, everybody wanted you. You. You was on the you know, fourth and goal. And then the president of Fox said, who oh, not that guy. Yeah, so you know, and Kevin, as powerful as he is, he can't override the head of Fox. So the president was just no, not that guy, you know what I mean? So yeah, and why would you
think that would come from? Like because again, ship did I say, because you're having like a personal relationship when you told him you can't what you said that president of No, that would be Dave Chappelle's been keeping it real wrong. Um no, man, I just again, when you look, you could go through my whole lad TV catalog. You
could have said anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so you know, and even on social media, you know, and I'm trying to get better with it, but when I read comments about race and white people say certain things that rubbed me wrong or it's just so fucking outlandish, you know, I go at him, you know what I'm saying. And even when when when black people anybody racist, far as I can, sir, says something wild about me. Instead of just going ha, let me ignore it. I turned in
the scar faced balcony scene. Maybe that's a detriment, you know, maybe I need to stop doing that. But you've you've been in big productions like Mad TV to Jerry mguire. Um, where was the moment where you thought that, you know what, these people are leaning on me and they don't want to see me succeed? And is that when you went stronger towards stand up because they can't continue to stand? Well? No, I mean, but stand up was the first thing that was the bread and butter, so that that was always
gonna come first. Um. And again that's why I'm saying it's tricky. Maybe I got this boogeyman imagination going on because again there's not any one specific thing where there's
nothing I can point to and go for sure. I know that's the case, But my spiky sense is tingling, and I just something just feels, you know, because for me to have been in this game for as long as I've been and for me and I don't want to come off like I'm you know, on some cocky ship, but for me to bring it the way I've brought it. There's no fucking reason why I shouldn't be bigger than what I am. And I know that sounds vain, but I don't mind saying that because I'm gonna wrap. I wish,
I'm excited and it's still be acceptable. Only rappers have a green light to say I'm the best, and you know it, flies don't do that. No, I mean, um um. Comedy is slowly but surely reminded me more and more of hip hop every day because there's certain components that very It's very like before it wasn't hold on, hold on that, hold on that listen me trying to get drunk. Hold on now you start with me too? What the
me too? Yeah? But so um. But one thing, I went to my app show one night and he invited me, so we went back there. We bought a couple of bottles in the backstage, and the one thing that I did notice is that you guys actually staying. You guys own rooms. I don't, okay, I see and this, this, this is what I'm telling you like, I'm I'm just cut different, you know what I'm saying. Like, and what's
so funny is the industry, however, they see me. Whatever that perception is anybody outside of that that's not in the Hollywood world, like regular Joe blows will tell you I'm the coolest, most humble nick in the world. Like I'm not going to the comedy club and hiding out in the green room until its showtime, when you're gonna see me amongst the people. Part of the reason that it's it's strategic. I'm chasing the joint. I'm looking at the crowd going my fucking the third road need to
be funked with because of that outfit. This is a potential problem. I gotta have five jokes because he's feeling brave. I'm watching and can you do that? Let's plus plus, I want to send out the signal to the crowd that he's not like everybody else because they know most people stay in the green room and keep the fans at bay, and it gives off a vibe of not that I'm better than you, but you know what I'm saying,
So I want them to feel whatn't. So then on top of that, if the jokes can match that, now they they love you. You gotta eating out the palmitty your hand because they're going not only the motherfucking super cool. But he's funny as a motherfucker, So the more reason I can get them to invest in me. It's a wind. Now, that's one thing, man. I kid you now, I was going through as much as your discography as much as I can and um, the movies you're you're you're hilarious.
But I can tell one million percent no, they cannot funk with you on that stage. Like there's not a lot of people like the way your timing, the way you just sit around, like you can tell you're comfortable and that you're like on the stage, like how I'm comfortable on the toilet. I'm just I'm just ill on the toilet, Like I'm like a one toilet, Like I'm a good shooter, you know what I'm saying. Like, and you're like you're like you like you get on and
you're like you're really is that with you? Is that something that's inspires you the crowd to play off the crowd? Yeah, I mean listen, one once upon a time ago, my crowd work was none. Only to say I didn't do it. I stepped to the script. You know, every every comics jokes is like the playbook I wouldn't go outside to play. I'm not calling the auto, but uh, if you really want to be great, you should be able to do a little bit of all improv political humor, race humor.
If you're getting my impressions, it's a specific thing, but you should. You should be able to have every facet of your game type. And big shout out to Joe Tory and D. L. Hughley because they were two of the masters of crowd work. Joe each asked a lot Joe. I even heard recently where Joe did some ship that even made me go, I don't know if I do that. He was on stage and somebody was sucking up and he told he made a joke about their mother, and then the person said got mad, said a man, don't
talk about my mother, my mother dad. He said, well, then I'll dig the bit up and find something to joke about it. He was a little too far, Like I said, you don't know what the line is to you. That's true, but listen, I've had motherfucker's want to fight me. You're a good comment. Can less motherfucker want to throw
hands with you. I've had people waiting wait for me after one Nigga in Orlando had on a sleeveless that the vest, and I was like, Nigga, we're the last time you've seen the Nigga rock dinner much less sleeveless. So I just kept making jokes about his sleeveless vest, and finally he got mad towards every the show and got up saying, fucking new you, I'll be I'll be black. I said, what you're gonna do, come back and beat
people the sleeves I got on that stage. The only thing stopped him from getting to me was a security cause he was talking to security and once he's seen me come out to come sell my merch, he rushed that security grabbed him up with yeah, man, you touched nerves. Let me just tell you, we don't know if you know well our shows about our shows about giving people their flowers when they can smell them. So many people want to say how great you are, you pass away,
you get sick, or you something. We don't want to do that. We want to tell you that in your face, face to face, and tell you you know you're hilarious. You do what you bring to this world, we appreciate it, and we want to say that we salute ship. Why you head a little man and it's called my pink bump. Okay, let's go. I don't like it. I don't miss that's it at all. Yeah, that's that's like a compliment. That's
Aminese secret. That's like a compliment. Hell so we do this with all guests because you know what, you know what the crazy thing is calling down offishal shout out the card down official. The other posted super doube. When he posted man, he posted, uh, a picture of the Rolling Stones and I think the guy that make Jack make Jack, he was he part of the Rolling Stones. Okay, so he posted a picture that Mick Jack and said, look he's on the road with the Rolling Stones. To
think Mick Jack is like seventy years old. So he said that the older McJagger got, the more revered he became in his community. The older was crazy that, he said. The shows show the older wee get, the more that they say were washed up or they say, you know, and that's funked up in our community. So we started this show to say, you know what, we don't want to interview the new guys. You know who's the one saying we watched we watched up. Who's saying that, it's
it's it's our it's our it's our community. It's that So you just you mean regular Joe's within the community, make stream. It's just, it's just, it's just, it's just when you were in this business for more than twelve years, people just feel like they're used to you, so you're just supposed to be. They don't fuck your gift no more.
You know I'm saying, I'm talking about I'm telling ourselves, I'm clearing you know, they just at first, when you know, you know, you know, your first couple of years, you come out, you're, you're, you're, You're a gift, and then after a while they see you. It happens when artists, happens when commedities happens with boxes, and we want to
change that narrative. So I want to pick up the carton now official for pointing that out, pointing about what we were doing and saying like this is the reason why I love Drink Chance because drink champions giving people their flowers now, and I think that that's what we should do. I think it takes nothing away from me for to tell you how dope I think you are, how funny I think you are, how ill I think you are. I don't think it takes nothing away from me. In fact, I think it adds on to me as
a man. I think you should clap for that guy there. I think an apps on to me as a man, because I'm not I'm not insecure and letting the next person know that you're great. And guess what, I'm inspired by your greatness, like you know what, I'm let's tell you the truth, like I always knew you was funny, but today, like I got to, I got to analyze because when I'm about to interview somebody, I want to
I want to know everything. So I'm watching and I'm like this one like you made tears come up my eyes. You know what? Fox me up man and and I've been doing this thirty years, and I guess my boy always tell me how I should be used to it and not see myself the way I see it. But I remember when I first met you, waits used to it to that point, agether, So I just like how most people see me from a revered standpoint, It's hard
for me to see myself as that. You know what, I'm saying, because I still look at myself as like I let me put it like this, like when I first met you, I don't know if you remember where we first met. Okay, Miami Airport and and uh, you knew me. You saw me, he gave me love. He was like, oh, ship my nigga, you need to do my podcasting. And I'm trying to keep my poker face, but I'm going fucking me. I grew up with this nigger.
So but my point is, my point is when I run into celebrities that know me, oh no, I'm gonna bit me. When I run into celebrities that know me, Um, I know, I know them, I grew up on them. I'm expected to know them. I don't expect my because you know me. And I'm finding out as I meet these motherckers they not only know me, but it's almost like they're not just going, hey, how you doing, They're going you And it fucks me up because I'm just like, yo,
this is surreal. So you know, you know why can certain people are are good at certain things, Like you're actually talent. What I mean by that is you're talented, like you know how to act, but you know how to be a comedian and that's that's like one of my friends. Um, his name is Jack Thriller. Right, we had Jack Teller in the podcast. He was hilarious. But what happened was um him and to change. Had had a little problem, right. I didn't think the problem was
was anything. So I tried to FaceTime to change. What I didn't know was I did not dress FaceTime my press regular call. So I'm like, the dude change, I'm like, yo, um, you know Jack Thriller said you a bit chas Nicks. Don't think he's so like just Jack Dillers right there. So to change, to change, I had I'm drunk at the time. You know, we're not fake drinking. Right back some more drinking, so we're not We're not fake drinking here. So what happens is to change his Jack Drugger and
he just loses his mind. He goes telling him I had never I never heard nobody say this. He said, tell him his mama pussy, like I've never heard of terrible man. He called his mama pussy. So anyway, Jack Jackie acted back and recipes of combat Jack to combat Jack. Well, Jackie acted back and Jack got gamester back with two change. But he was being playful. No, not not at first at first. When when when when the two change said your mama pussy? Jack was seriously took it seriously. Guys
he should because nobody mama should be pussy. But absolutely. But I remember Jack coming to me and saying to me, yo, nori, why did you do that? Why did you set me up? And I said, one, I didn't set you up. I thought I was. You know, it's a little obniviated. I thought I was on facebo. Two. I did not enjoy him jumping out of his comedian I feel like, yes, I feel like the comedian should. But when he walked out,
was he acting or not? He was serious? He was serious, he would he told I set him up, and I still to this day thought he was acting. No, No, he fell out. So that's so. So that's so I've bring that up to say, now I told this to Jack, so I don't want it to seem like beause you know, Jack is my friends now. He's a great dude, right, and I spoke to him the other day, so I
told him. The difference between him and when we interviewed Marlon Wayne's was we interviewed all the ways and in the middle of our interview, the A c just break, right, So let just break and we have more. Nigga's there right, so you know how nigga hate you heard you know Nigga. I'm feeling it now. So we had nig So now Mollan is sweating like a motherfucker. But we we gotta play all cool. We gotta act like we've been doing this.
So Mallon at no point broke his comedians like he he stayed you know what I'm trying to say, Yeah, I do like he stayed in character like at all, And to me, that's what a real comedian is. You know what I'm saying. Am I bugging because I'm not. I'm not twenty four hours of rapper. I'm telling you the truth. I think. Listen, I don't again, this is where I need to tread likely because based on certain
things I would naturally say, it will be perceived. Um. You know, some dudes are characters because that's their stick. It's their stick. I think. I think some of the greatest comedians don't do stick. They're funny naturally like gimmick. And when you front naturally, you don't have to turn it. You don't have to do a stick it. It comes when you wanted to come. It comes when it needs
to come. You know, I think if I had to sit here and do the aries the funny guy the entire way, well then how do we know who you are? You're not showing us who you are. You're showing us you your stand up. You know, why does it? You know, let me see if you have insight. D know what I'm saying, that's real deep. I'm listen. I'm not gonna say no name. But you know, some comics talent doesn't match their arrogance. Like you know what I'm saying. You you you there's some comics who will come in the
club with dark shades on them. They give specific orders to the white staff. Don't look him in the eye, don't talk to him, and they have a swagger like they ship, don't stink, And it's like, if you're going to do that, you gotta be Dave Chappelle. Come look at like Ernie Murphy. But they sound like POLYI Shaw. Yeah, It's like, Ni, your talent doesn't match. He's never been funny to me. I'm just the white guy, right, I
listened for the record. I don't think any I don't think any comic shouldn't walk around with that much bravado. But if you're going to, you gotta be a bad motherfucker. Rest in peace, Patriseo Neil. He's my ONK. So you know he's in show you because I don't want to think he goes right in my interview right now, keeps saying my next question. Everything. He keeps saying, you get your next question before you get to your next question. Let me just go back for a second, like when
I told you how you and I met. And this is why I say this ship is so surreal to me. I'm telling my NA story and I think nas is one of the greatest rappers of all time, you know. And that's when I get into these debates with these young kids about rap who can't wrap. To begin with this, Niger made a song called Rewind He right backwards nigga. I was smoking l you know how hard it is for me to right forward this nigga And it was
a beast. So I'm in the Last Factory one night and I'm up the balcony levels two levels, and I see Palise and this is when him and Calie was married. I didn't know he was there, but I've seen Kalie and I go, Kalie, I just want to tell you, can you please tell your husband? I think this nigga is one of the She stopped me. She goes, he's downstairs in the booth. He loves you. So I go down there and I think I called my man over here. I even my boy who was here with me. Now
when it happened. I he was sitting in the booth like this with a with a heney on the table. He was showing like this. So I walk up to him. I extend my hand. I go, yo, Nas, I just gotta tell. He goes yo, I love you God, that nigga. He goes Joe. I watch you all the time. You that nigga God. I said, thank you, nas nigga. I went outside and was straight bit my nigga like like. So that's jo was. That was a moment for me. But treat so Nil. You're holding plank blasses with you.
But on break later, okay, i' work that way. Wanna look at Stoll. You just turned into a white flterurn. You treat so then, yeah, one of the most genius comedians out there. Yeah, a good my man. When he was alive, I had just started to lose weight that I went up interview with Shade before and leaving at the excuse me. It was even that Power one on five and I did an interviews on them. He had seen me like six months prior to that. He seed me like big boy. He was like, yo, so how
did you do this? I gave my number and again he's another comedian. He would just talk to me and he would just rank on me like he was just like the nigga. Never stopped me in the comediany like nigga listened. So you're telling me when you go home, you ain't like people like I'm just saying that was a funny, dude. Let me man. I always said, there's
only three comics I would be nervous to follow. I'll follow anybody, but the three niggers who always would give me if I had to follow him, I'm miss Patrese, Dave and Tommy Davidson. Tommy, Now you're gonna talk about talent And we did the shack Sawstar comedy jam and Cedric kind of gave him a little bit of it. Because he was like, you know, for for the Spanish bros that didn't understood your Spanish. But that was nice for the Spanish bros. Meaning a lot of black people
didn't get it. When Tommy does the bit when he imitates uh Telemundo and Spanish and he speaks Spanish and sings that creatively is one of the greatest bits because to pull that off, that's talent. You gotta be able to speak fluently in a different language and make it funny. And if you go back when Tommy, I'll forget what special he did. But he didn't think about square dancing and he did the band joined the didn't think his
energy level. He's a stick of dynamite. And for him to be that energetic and come up with them kind of bits, Tommy's a bad motherfucker. Tommy David who Dave Chappelle and Patrese, Yeah, he was. He was so special. Patrese would say things and you will go, how I would have How would have I would have someone even
think of that? Like he was on the Opie and Anthony Show one time and a black stripper was going at it with him, and you know how you know, girls before they get all these implants, how titties were really flat, saggy and long, but just flash. And he told this bit your titties looked like Bible sling shots. Fucking you know what that is the stick with the rubber band and the titties was hanging like the rubber
band and the whole Bible sling shot. This thing he would come up with ship there was just incredible, incredible, and his was his honesty. They were talking about the Tiger Woods thing when Tiger got in trouble and they had a psychiatrist on the phone like a real doctor, and at one point he kept going, uh, miss miss, and she stopped him and she goes, patrese, please don't
call me miss, call me ma'am or doctor. And there was a nice to second pregnant pause and patrise win whatever bitch come list just like that kind of Yeah, that's a hat temper man as a comedian, right, You see, you see information in this world some that's probably not funny. How do you guys like sitting there like like I see comedians make jokes about the world trade and and make it make fun um like, how do you how do you go about a tragic situation and turning it
and flipping it into something funny. Hot timing, it's the right time. There's such a thing as too soon too soon, but yeah, timing. After a certain amount of time goes by, anything can be Sometimes it might be too soon. But here's the funny thing. Going back to my doctor King joke. When I do the joke and I say the punch sign about uh doctor King getting shot on the balcony, the audience goes oh, and I go, fuck, y'all, too soon, you know what I mean? So you gotta address the
elephant in the room. How the fun is that? Too soon? Yeah? Uh, let's let's bring your yomie. Yeah, and I'm think gonna set them up right so we can step outside right here, take a big yeah. So we were back then we're back. Okay, my man, I'm so sorry if you do. Steinberg man, I'm just how my areas opener. I've been traveling with him for about two years and we do a podcast together in the podcast spears in Steinberg a K eight
jew in the Jerk ser Stinberg. Okay, definitely definitely what y'all what y'all saying on the podcast, what's going on in the podcast Everything Raw Uncut, Yo, Yo, y'all, y'all doing the yaloe may go to your plan. Yeah, we don't film that ship, so no one knows what's going on. Just skiing, help y'all out that we're figured out. I was figuring out. So okay, that's dope, man, So okay, now I'll be in that. Explain your relationship with comedy,
my relationship with comedy. I failed in everything else, and comedy is the only thing that's ever made me happy. Yeah, no, seriously, and it's the only thing that uh like everything that I thought I could say. And honestly, I just never This is my first time that I ever had felt like I was actually accomplishing something in my life. And I didn't start doing this until I was forty two. Yeah, I went to the comedy to your fort I went
home and told my kids. So I went home and told my kids at forty two, I think I'm gonna take this ship for real. I'm gonna really go out of the stand up. Yeah. And my kids just said, Dad, like, we like food and ship, And what did you do before? I did everything before? Honestly, I used to honestly back in uh in the late eighties. I mean I sold weed. I sold weed for I used to take I used to take weed from from from the eight to the two thousand. Sometimes I might have spend a little time
in jail because so that that took some time. And then I got married, run it back over the weed and went to marriage morning. Were you so coke? You's so caught for it? Like a minute, it was like a monty, But I did. I only so coke because I want to coke. So you you with your own product. Yeah, and that was before Biggie, so you would have been around earlier. You have told me something black guy, white guy,
blite guy stowing his own coke dube. That's why everybody who everybody knows anything about codes how this works when you don't have a lot of money, and I didn't. What you do is you just take an a ball and you take out a half a gram for yourself. You crush an asper and you put that in there. You sell the other three grams to coke, and you keep a half a gram for yourself or somebody anywhow the nigga don't know nothing about it. So y'all see
America don't be putting that shot on us. I just broke down and ate ball and some cope as for him, Asterka, because I didn't know what you were supposed to do that when you started as him with the code, mixed them with the code, someone gets a headache, I've already taken care of their problems. Meanwhile, I use words like expeditious you get high and not have a headache at the same same time. But no, I only did that. I did that seriously a couple of times, you know.
I did a few times. No longer that I did that though, just to just to really just to have my own cope. But when I met the coke dudes, they actually got me into the weed. And I was from Arizona and I was, now everybody's gonna know this. I went to you, I went to the U of A, and I went to Pima Community College. You're gonna hear me cough you Okay, So how was it going. I was there and I met a bunch of kids to go to college, and they want we taken back to
like you know, your kids sat. I was to make sure yeah no no, no, no, no, no, yeah, I was. I was. I was nineteen years old. So I met people who wanted weed to go back there. So and I knew all these guys from the coke, but now everybody want to get out of coke because it was dangerous and weed was easy at the time. So we just took weed. Uh, we bought like we'd buy a trash compactor and then you fill it with weed and you'd make twenty five to forty pound blocks and then
you throw them in your suitcase. But you can't do anymore. And I'm not saying this to advocate. If you're do, I want to send some weed back home. And then you know that if you go to the airport right now with weed in your suitcase, you ain't gonna leave the airport. Well you will, but it will be within cups and you'll be going somewhere else, not where your destination. In the good old day, you can just throw that
ship in your suitcase. W A. I feel like it was all the all the This nig is white boy Ricky. So no, that's what That's what I and I and I did that I did. I got a little trouble for it. I went to jail for a little while and then with a little while. Just really it was quick. It was six months. That's definitely it was quick because it was three hunder pounds, So that's quick three under
pounds six months as well. Right now, what happens, I will never deny white privilege, and I will accept it graciously at all times because that would be so when I get pulled little, I just jump out the seat and put you into this. You know, it's very very simple. White privilege comes quickly, especially if you look like this. Now I'm Mexican and Jewish, and I look Jewish, So that's still let's story. Ever, what that comes with, I'm
taking all of it. So let's let's have it. You know this, this is a black privilege is sometimes absolutely it's some black peop. We don't have the privileges like y'all have, Like I'm gonna get you in a college, But stereotype is our privilege. You know what I'm saying. Sometimes can work for you. Sometimes being an angry nigga can work for you. What I'm saying, give you an example. Shut the funk up, white man. No, this is this
is true, and we talking about the same podcast. Everybody has privilege because it all rolls downhill, and everybody's at some point in the hill. So privilege. You need to recognize your own privilege at all times. White people don't recognize they have their own pridget privilege. The only reason they don't know it is because they just do what is white American. You're gonna walk outside. It's easy to be white in America. You're not gonna notice anything that.
This is just how it works, you know. Crazy. I used to hate being famous until I can get a table of crustaceans. And I was like, I'm like when you can't like when I like, I like to be as normal as possible, Like I don't wanna want to go to a place and announced I'm coming. But then after a while I'm like that, Yeah, it's nice to
put that. I heard you say something. I heard you said something you said m that you thought it was a downfall that you don't smile enough, like like not me now, like when you get in front of a certain type of crowds, Well no, it's uh, it's like when I'm not on stage. Like that's why, going back to what you said earlier about being in comic mode, most people's perception of comedians is that we're always joking. When I'm not on stage, man, I wear ice cube
scal you know what I mean. And the people that don't know me, I don't look approachable. I don't look like you know, I don't come off like Wayne Brady your Warrior when I did. I'm gonna be honest, spells criminal all round. Listen listening. But I did the Breakfast Club. I rolled up there with their hand hoodie, so definitely stero. Yes, you know, I don't. I don't walk around cheesing, you know what I'm saying, So people see that angry black I mean just I don't walk around cheesing like that.
You know. I get in the moment when it's time to get in the moment. Okay, I'm gonna switch it switches crazy before I switch it crazy. I would like to ask bother people's opinion on Key and Pill, right, because I know you guys are a mad TV together. Yeah, I know that they took a different turn. You took a different turn, and I really didn't relate to Ki and Pill at all. Now let me stop you right there. Okay, this is one of the things that got me in trouble.
What I'm saying the one thing that got me in trouble. I was on Black TV and I talked about how, you know, just like black people, we come in different forms. You know what I'm saying, d m X is DMX all the time. DMX used that example in Will Smith and Will Smith. Will Smith has that magical ability where he can be around a bunch of white people and come off genuine, not like he's trying to be white, not like he's shuffling and uncle thomma, he's himself right.
But he could also go down to eighty hood and still be will and he's respected authenticity, authenticity. Uh, DMX might not. He might, he might do it, but he might be around up a kind of upper echelon of white folks, and X being X, they may who he's too abrace it for them. So I almost say it's like an X men gene to be black and be able to do both sides without switching it up for any one of them. That's a special talent um. And
and you know, Campo, I said, are they black? Yes, technically yes, but based on certain behavior, based on certain action, just the swagger, a way you walk away, you talk, certain moves you make. They were black, but they weren't black. If you get and I know you know what I mean, I know what you mean. But I said they even heard Dave say he said he had to watch him
kind of like like do his show for two years. Yes, because Dave Chappelle said like after he like like quit and when he said that, he because they were They took his slot. They took they took like like the skets type of comedy thing. Maybe they take everything from him that was his his lease. It wasn't even a slot as the same or no, I don't want I don't know about the slot. But but what I said was perceived a certain white And what did you say?
For the record, I just again, I just I basically said it look key and peel And I never said they weren't funny, very funny. I just said, you know, do they come off? In other words, when I would watch them on their show and they would imitate black guys, it came off like Amos and Andy. It felt like guys doing black face, like black brother you know, brother man, yeah, brother performing in a way when I go, nigga, don't
act like real leagues, don't talk like that. It felt like white guys trying to be black guys even though they were black guys being black guys. Something something, the authenticity wasn't there. So I said that, cut to, um, Jordan does get Out, three hundred million dollar movie, get Out one an Oscar. We had a great movie. But this was all before he blew up. Let me tell you some funny ship crazy ship is I funk with them when they're separate, when they got together as the
Skets comedy. I didn't like the Skets comedy, but like, I like him and that's okay, comedy subjective. But cut to he's fucking huge now. And I kept saying to myself, I wonder if he saw that interview. And I don't know whether he did. It didn't Maybe some other dudes got in his heir. But this is when he was casting to the last o g and idition for the role et Cedric God that says he produced it directed
get Out from get Out and yeah, that's yeah. So I read the breakdown and I go produced by Jordan Peale, I said, ship. So I went to the audition that day and I walked in the room. Now he could have played it where it was like yeah and then I know what you said and made me feel it, but he didn't. He was like everything south. He shook the hands, we did the thing, and I'm as I'm auditioning.
I didn't get it from him, but the white guys who were working with him, I said, I know they've got in his ear and said, yo, you need to see what this nick said about you, because the vibe in the room was just you could feel it. So, you know, that's one of those moments where I said what I said, and even when I did my interview on Comedy Hype, I said, I still stand by what
I said, but maybe I just shouldn't have said. I'm not gonna change my opinion, but maybe I shouldn't just not have said it period, because that's one of those moments where you know, yeah, motherfucker, payback, but you just said it again. Well I took the same stand, not changing what I said, but it is. But now it's out there, so said what you said, you should have
just it should have been said. Well, yeah, but those are the repercussions right like like like again again, I think that those guys are funny in their own way. I think at first way comedy, I think sorry to quit like this, but I think comedy. Since you sold us as fans, now you could look at it something totally different. But for me, comedy, since you sold this is the new Chapelle. Yeah, this is how this how it is presented to me as a fan replacement, this
is this is the new Chapelle. Even before that there was Carlos Sancia and that went through its troubles, right, But but I think they were always trying to find the new Chappelle shell right, when you create that kind of noise, the revenue they want that they want. Dennis, what did you think when when you found out he went to Africa? I didn't really have an opinion on it,
you know. And then later when he did interviews where he talked about particularly on the inside the actors studio, when he talked about Hollywood in the business and what's insane one noticed the one with the guys the white guy. Yeah. Yeah, but Dave is so insightful that that, you know, he said things in interviews that that kind of made you go he wasn't crazy. I noticed suspend they wanted to put on it, but he wasn't crazy, you know. He
he had to get away from it. He talked about the incident where Martin Lawrence was, you know, I guess running down the street and clothes and bugging in the street, and he goes, you know, what kind of industry do we live in? That's so sick that would make a person do that? You know what I'm saying that Again, we don't know the facts. Facts, was Martin on someone
who knows? Only Martin knows that. But I'm telling you this bas definitely PCP that well, based on what I know about this industry and what I've been through, I don't know too many people that make it in this industry sober because this businessman still your spirit, still your spirit? Yeah, we it's real sick because I like, you know, knowing that you was coming today, did you hit it again? Yeah, this interview is going to be very different knowing that
she was coming today. I see all your interviews prior and obviously lead the comments and so many people like when we have opinion of somebody else and people think that you're doing better, the automatic cord your halo, right. So I went and I really assessed everything, and I saw every point that you were trying to make back
then today, like I just saw it. I was just like I like because I was supposed to only watch like three or four and I just walked around my house the whole day when I watched about like twelve twelve different things. You're doing the press as a DMX, You're doing, uh, You're being asked this question, you being a blad being asked this question about this, and and and and so on and so forth. But me going through all of that, it took me twelve twelve different
things for me to understand. Your point is because so many people like you know, I guess it's that light. I think you spoke about it, um and and and and and they say that it's one person chosen in Hollywood a year, right, black people maybe right, And it's it's it's, it's it's. It's so much the same in the music business, like meaning like we have a run, right, like you have a crazy one that you have a run,
but then at some point it just slows down. It doesn't stop, it slows down and you have to do something else. Have you have you have you guys reached that point? I mean, I guess I'm lucky enough to where one I'm not out there overexposed. So you know, and this, this is another thing I love about Dave. You don't see Dave in a shiploaded interviews. And let me just say again, please, I don't want this to
be perceived wrong, different strokes, different folks. If it works for you, great, You see Kevin Hard everywhere, and that's fine, that's you know, he's on he's the movie man whatever. But I think when you leave mystery, it makes people wonder what are you doing? And it adds to your mistique.
As much as I love Michael Jordan, I'm a Michael Jordan fanatic, I love the fact that I don't see him like I see Barkley every Thursday, because it adds to my see you don't see nos and you don't see about him everything like you don't see that like those cards. A different business model, That's what I'm saying. It could just be that, So you know, for me, I'm just like, because I'm trying to understand what you're saying.
Would you mean a different business life. Maybe someone says I need to get myself overexposed and make this kind of bread in this kind of way, and then other people say, well, I'll reserve myself to this kind of bag, understand, and one is not better than another. It's I'm boking maybe the same amount of money. I'm just saying for me,
you know what I'm saying. I think when people, especially when people love you and they want to see you and you're not always available, you keep that desire, that burden, desire for them to keep looking for you. UM. So I'm not looking to oversaturate myself for one um. And you know again, it's like they say, game recognize game. If people see an interview, if they see my work and they go this thing is so authentic, or he's
so talented. For somebody who doesn't have a movie career, if for somebody who ain't been on TV consistently since Mad and it's been a minute, the fact that I'm still able to go out on the road and put asses in the seats is a testament to something that people know. You're with this sniging, I'm gonna get this and fox with it. Do you do do you think this is a crazy question? Do you think you suffer
from your own success? Like meaning like Fat Joe goes all out every year right to make a crazy record. I see him every year, and then he makes a record and it works, and then the people say, well, I'm supposed to work so so I don't know if you've got people like this a little It works all year to make a crazy hit and it comes to hit and people accept it. They say, Okay, this is a little back new flowing my way up, this is
a new sus. But then at the same tone and they say, so what he was supposed to make it because he's subjected to make the best product and you're you're, you're, I don't want to say supposed to but but it's not a surprise. But he still get the props that he deserves because they almost say he's supposed to make
it home run? Is that technically he is because he's talented, he's got the goods, But if he don't apply the work ethic and he's lazy with it and he just acts like it's supposed to be, be stoked upon him and much different. But what I'm saying is like, there's not a lot of losses on Europe. Behalf like this. You know this, you rock both places right so now you is is that is that when people just expected you like they oh, every rocked him on the place,
but he's supposed to. I mean, they might expect it. But at the same time, again, I'm not. I'm not everywhere to where you can judge me so much, you know what I'm saying, Like, look, man, there's no reason why I should If it's like they give everybody under the sun that's a comic a show on Comedy Central. There's no reason why I shouldn't have a show. There's no reason why I shouldn't have special. Netflix turned me down. You know, people keep saying to me, you should have Netflix,
but they keep turning their Netflix turned me down. And when I got in that before, I don't know what the timing of when it was. But even with when I had that incident with Corey hokem at my manager. Not the fight, the fight, yeah that was the part. Yeah, the interview joint. My my manager went to try to get me a Netflix special, and he said a couple of the executives said they saw the Corey olcom thing and went, they laughed, they went, he deserved it good.
And not only did they not give me the special, they felt I deserved that. Let me task you something because um I saw it years ago did understand it, but dude, I had the obviously when I'm Google today it popped up, but I actually didn't understand n what actually transpired, like because Corey. As I'm looking at the interviews prior to that, I'm seeing the respect you have for Corey. I was in my top five. And let me say, for the record, I still think he's a
great comedian. Just because the incident happened doesn't take away his ability. He's still a bad motherfucker. But we just definitely I feel like, I feel like what part made you feel like he wasn't your friend? No ball, Well, first of all, he never was my friend. Let me I just say he was somebody I respected and a colleague in the comedy game. I don't working around with that word friend. Friend is somebody who if you bury a body. Friend is somebody who you know what your lady,
you know what I'm saying, who has your batch? You know my best friend is in the back of this room right now. So I don't take that word lightly. But to answer your question, after the incident went down, the stance he took right when it happened, it was
very different the next day and I didn't understand that. Okay, I don't understand you right now, So would you mean like what happened at that at the moment it popped off and and you know, in the heat of the moment, he was saying one thing to me like, you know, oh man, that's crazy. Was fucked up what he did? And dude is wrong. But then because it wasn't him, that just it wasn't Corey was it was Williams or
whatever his name was. But then after days later I called Corey back and was like, nigga blah blah blah blah, and he was like, nah, man, you was tripping. You was fucking up. You was you had too much tanker ray you was. I was like, that's different from what you told me. So then that kind of just and we like that SESSI story here, I guess, and it
just dramatically changed, you know, because because that's that's the thing. Now, let me ask you, because I don't know, um is Zoe Williams and commedia and that was no. But here was my mistake. And I said this in many interviews because Corey was my guy again and there was a risk my guy. All he had to do was say to me. What he said was, which was, Yo, this is Zoe Williams. It's my man. Okay, so your man is now my man for you. And I thought the
same thing that we're doing him. We could do that drinks. So I'm like, let's say you so oh and again I'm from New York. I talked with a certain flair with a passion, and I let my guard down. So I'm talking, we in it. I'm got to tang ray crazy and there's a little bit of contact. I'm I'm excited a little bit. So it's doing this and I was, and I was saying, ship and look, here's the thing
about comics, like rappers or whatever. When you're in the same hustle, you know how to break each other's balls and then they ever gonna be no animosity we jokes. Was what we do is we eat. I assumed he was in that world. He's a civilian. He's a regular civilian. So what I'm saying is touching nerves when I'm thinking comics, Nigga, this we feel. We give and take. If I give it to you, you give it to me ten times
back as good. So I guess you know I didn't want too many me slaps and you know, I'm masage this nigga's tissues, and he got upset and the ship went the way it went. But like I said, that's my fault because I went in there with the with I just went in in with my guard down, and I said, I would never do that again. I believe. I believe comedians has to be comedians. Um, that's the reason why I was like, like yo, wal and ways we had to like literally kick him out because he
just he just fell in love with us. He just kept kept smoking and he just was like he just like you know what, like he felt comfortable cause we like we understand comedians like you could cloud everybody. Russell Peters came here as well, and Russell Peter sip Right were FM is that we we got him high, we
got him fucked up. And he joked on Twitter and Twitter's paradise everyone could see the twinnters paradise and I didn't know because he he kind of went a little too farn like just like for a certain thing, and I had to but he was saying it to me, but I had to pull twinters aside, and I'm like, Yo, we gotta let a comedian be a comedian. That's like me telling me, you know, you can't be that much of a rapper, like I can't, you can't. I don't
want nobody to judge me like that. I don't want nobody to say, yo, yo, you know what, say what what? Don't say? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? You? Three tools? The tools is okay, but three periously. I don't want somebody to do that. So I stepped the twinter that I said, yo, look, I know what comedians do. And Twinter looked at me like, yo, fun didn't give
a fun. He went some way where he sound on him. No, he was just you, just like physically like he was just you know, I was gonna say, he wouldn't be able to feel like, no, don't because that and that's that's that's the thing is comedians. I'd love to say I feel sorry for y'all, but I watched because the thing is what makes me the same person is watching you motherfucker's make fun of me, watching your motherfucker's make
fun of what's happening. You know what's funny? Man? I got then when as you say that, and most people are like that, but you know, I tell you a rapper who sense of humors was? You know ll I did a movie called Out of Same with ll Um. I was, and I was playing his best friend and I would, you know, imitate him in front of him. It's crazy, man, it's kind of funny people. While so he wasn't. Really he felt like I was making fun
of him instead of trying to last you well. And you know, listen and certain interviews and certain things I've done, like I said, I go, I go hard, like on my CD did I did a prank call where I did LLL call with a gay club trying trying to get in on Filipino night. How's this gone? It's so specific thought, that's what I just I was. I called the club up and I said, you know, I want to come in on Filipino night. It's a Filipino night. I want to sit and boot with Hoodie on. You
have a cocon up the way you're only chaps. I'm gonna sit with the Filipino boy, not man. Its crazy man, you know, so you know, and I think word got back to him and he kind of you know, but that's what I'm stilling there. This was on the set he just was on my comedy CD. My on the set like you and oh no, no, no, no, I mean I mean you know you've already done that. Yeah, he got a set. But how about DMX, like when
you when you met DMX that he app Well, here's funny. Uh. I remember jay Z was doing a concert at the Staple Center and that week we had Meth and Read on Mad TV. So Meth was like, Yo, I'm hanging out with hold the Staple Center. Your roll with me? So I did so again. My CD had just come out, So I'm bumping in the bustle rhymes and everybody, and you hold up my CD and promoted give me a shout out of y'all, and it was all doing it. So I've seen X and I said X man my CD.
He stopped me said, you're dog I the hologen so and here yeah, mam, mistake he was. He was hanging out in one of the locker rooms and in the locker room there's only one way in, and so it gave me being naive. I walk in the locker room. Uh, he comes in next, but then fifteen niggers come in and they all formed a circle around me and Accident's just me and X in the middle. And then the
last dude comes into security. He slams the door boom and stands right in front of the door and he said, your dog my voice I heard some days with my voice. I said, well, look, as just want you to promote the CD. I'll tell you what, come to my hotel in me here. If the ship is real, yeah, if it's not, here's my here's here's then let's go back. Let's go back to what I was talking about, the degrees of blackness. Now I'm a legit ut nigger. Here's
how I know I'm not nigger. Nigga was talking to me and at one point this nigga said, you're dog and pulled the razor blade out from under this talk. And I looked at that ship and I said, this nigger can talk without cutting inside. I said, now I know the difference between me and this nigger can do that. I'm the hustings that breathe and nigger right there. I'm so ashamed to say I can do that. As that's that's the racking Ziland. I'm so sorry. So that's the
rest of nineties. So how about whole what was your first impression and you meeting home. Uh, well, the first time I met him, I had to do an interview. I was interviewing to me a grand Grant Hills wife for a magazine and it was at this spot in Beverly Hills where you know, they had a little restaurant outdoor joint. So I'm sitting with her at the table and he comes in and I remember he had had on backwards in a wife beater. He obviously knew she
was he. I wasn't nobody at the time to me, So he went over to give her love and sing, and uh, I was like, yo, whole man, big fan man, whatever is nagn played me like. It was like damn so. And I hadn't really seen him after that, but me and my people's we went to the Pacquial may Weather the fight, and when the fight was over, everybody was spilling out from the arena into the streets and you see Alan Iverson There's a little mob around him. Then
that mob believes him and immediately goes over here. Because now it was Jay Beyonce walking hand by hand, and I just happened my movement to join their rhythm. So I'm right next to them as they walking and stride, and I said, U yo, jay Man, I big fan, man goes, I know who you are, nigga. I know how didn't say anything. I know who you are. I really I really wanted to break down to him and just give him a little bit. You know, I ain't animated like say a bust the moms sh you get
when you break down my lines. Add that to the fact been plut a bunch of times times staff of mind flowing, so pop coaching everybody. We'll see what happens when I no longer exists. Now, how how shock? You know what's funny when people ask about the impressions, I say, it's always like being a musician. Singers have ear for tonation, pitch, um, riffs, tone, so it's like everybody's voice is a note. So shock
is all based, you know. To be honest, I like Shock, But every time I meet him, he grabs my head and I know I actually can't meet him in the right So I'm just I'm just like a mad talking but I just really like yet, please, let's stop this. Let's do it like this. Let's uh ask ask me a questions? Asking me a question like we got asking me a basketball questions. Okay, Shock, Right now, we got Kevin Durant is going to the Brooklyn Nets, but he's gonna be out the whole season. He's gonna be out
the whole season. How is the net season going to be like with just Kyrie? Is Kyrie hold down this whole season without? First of all, let me tell you what, brother, they already got a strong to us best best point guards. I just said, James, let's check me. Let's I just to tell people all the time, as long as Lebron got the others, it's what I'm gonna make the balls gonna do you want to do? But when he got the others, Jr. Let me let me, let me go back, let me go back town to why this is why
I say I'm black balls. Y'all recently saw the NBA Awards, right, and they had that moment with Jay Farrow sat at the table with Barkley and imitated Shock. And it ain't got nothing to do with my vanity. Read the comments eight five ninety sense that there's no fucking way that shouldn't have been aries, No fucking way that's aries all day. And I didn't get that that job. I didn't even get the call, so you know, I know that's because I'm black balls. No, but my Spidey sense tells me
something that's crazy. And Jay Fouler just did White Famous, didn't he Well he had done White Famous, yeah, and from Saturday Night Live and all that. But you know, that's that's just one of those moments where I go, man, something's up, something's up, okay, and people move saying That's what makes me an asshole is that I would say that. I'm not supposed to say I think I should have
got that call. I'm not allowed to say that that. No, but that's perceived as cocky because you shouldn't have got you should I'm saying that, like I shouldn't be like that somehow. Now I don't think that's you know, and like I'm just saying that I felt, you know, that's a job I deserved slightly. But I'm not supposed to say that you were out before jaw is my man, I got his phone number? Were cool? Um, seeing that's the whole house every now and then, Um, but you've
been doing it way before. Well. People also thought I had a beef with Jay because I said this again. I always started everything with my fucker's funny and Jay's funny. And I'll say, like I said a million times, he does impressions I wish I could do. I'm envious to that, naggd. But the only thing I said to bother me is impressions are specific, and what makes a great impression is
is when you capture detail to the last time. And Jay, when he would do jay Z, he would always go blue, I vy my baby girl, I run the whale, and I said, oh, I would never say that. He would say girl in the world the way you say girl in the world, over the whole tone, you know, my baby girl, smoke wirl and when the fun is wild like that would just irritate me. Like that would irritate me. That's ultimately jay Z. That just like when he would
do Shot, he would do this face. He would go and it's like it's it's part of what Mason great is. It's a slight exaggeration. Shot don't look like this but a little bit. So I just, you know, certain little things like that would get me. And I would say that, and again, I'm not supposed to say ship like that. I'm just supposed to you're the only one who can do someone else's impression of that somebody else compression the impression. Yeah,
what's your favorite part of comedy? Me? I mean that you started at you stared at forty one, said two, started at two. I'm gonna be real honest for me self gratification to get that immediate responsive laughter for something that I said and know that people enjoyed it. It's like drug. But but I really talked about my real life stories. So when I don't get that it's not fun. That's because, yeah, because it's me. When this someone doesn't like me, they don't like me, they don't concert material.
It's your life, so they don't like me. So that's the only side of it. But I love I love the honesty that you get to have a comedy and that's what I thought about it. And it's not a real job like I have not felt in the eleven years I've been doing this. I had a job. Wow, I don't feel I don't feel like you're gonna work. You feel like you guys mean well. I would perform in certain spots in Cali and he just happened to be opening up. I though he's from Utah. I shut no, no,
this is based on a joke. No, no, this is from a game. It's based on that comed white because I ain't no niggas, So you talk to white people happen. The first time I went to Utah, I was looking at the niggas, like looking at I was like, I was at the airpoint. You know, airport is diverse because niggas is going in and out. You know that's funny. As the first time I went to Utah, stuck at the airport for seven hours, I became a callbing old fan. Yeah,
I was like, you jazz they calling oders the game. Yeah, so I was like, yeah, that's White's agate. You know it is great. So yeah, I know. So I would I would perform. And he was opening for me, and uh, you know, like I said, I wear scal like my music on him in the zone getting ready for the show. And again this perception is don't talk to Arias so he's he's angry or he's a divo, he's difficult, and he didn't tell into any of that ship. So he
just started talking to me. Uh, and you know, things just kind of meshed and I liked this comedy and he had the guts to ask me yoke and I featured with you regularly. I said, yeah, come on, said though, I said, it's real quick. The second time I worked with him, though, he was on the road and he didn't talk to me like I thought, we broke that barrier.
Like we talked. We had a big conversation. What I didn't know is if you don't know areas well, just because you met him and had a conversation with him, you don't start off where you left off. You go back to where you first. Yeah. So I sat in the green room for like two days and I didn't say anything to him, and he wasn't saying anything to me, and I just go, so, is this what you expect from your feature? Not talk to you unless you talk to me? And he just looked at me, goes, I'm
grown fucking man. You can talk to me whenever you want to. He goes, I'll be outside. He walked outside. And then that after that it was kind of like and I think the third week we worked together brought me a big bottle of tequil. Him. I said, we're good now, yea, but do you ever like um? Both of you guys? You know you have because you're literally your job is to make other people happy. Right. They say your way to get into heaven is to do
something for people who can't do nothing for you. That's literally your job. Because your your job is to make somebody laugh that literally probably can't make you laugh. But that's the relationship. It's like, I feel like if I get to make you laugh, but it makes me feel good about myself. We completed that relationship and that's what makes that work for me. And I'm happy that they're
getting what they need for me. But I couldn't do it if I wasn't getting what I needed from doing comedy, right, that was hard? Well all right, so look three years my lucky number. We did too. We're going in God, that's it. You only got the time of the anniversary. Let's do it. It's the anniversary. But n r E album than y'all. I gotta I want to turn one. Uh. This album means the most important album to me because this is my album. I stepped out on my own.
We had made the More Reporters the Classic album and Capone got locked up and I had to go on my own. So I actually made this and if it would have failed. Uh, I would have been the blame and it worked and I still wasn't the blame. But that's that's the way. It's just the way that ship works for you to you know, turn twenty one years yesterday, which means it's twenty one years week. You know each other's well because you know our albums. And I before up to DJ College because is he coming or not?
I've really been seeing him pause, um, you know for a lot a lot of these past couple of weeks, and you know, he's brought up drink chats before, but this time he's like, what's something here? Fat man with some crazy hood. He knows the beginning of my story. He knows that my struggle. He knows. I'm just saying. I just never heard him that passionately. So I want
to bag him. Also want to pick up something. You pick him up, And I also want to pick up something because I would like to apologize to people who watched the Rick Ross interview. You know, you know what, I think eppisodes are coming out of sync whenever you heard that ship. I want to say sorry because I looked at myself and I said, jeezus, I didn't like me ived it. Yeah, that's not a shot. I'm gonna be honest and listen after that, like, shot, it's not
a shot, Bro, that's not a shot. Really push around here. So I'm gonna be a real jig old everybody. I'm I'm I'm gonna be a real person, Rick Ross. You deserved a better interview than that. What happened was we was, you know, drink assistant assist o'clock in the morning. Um, I've held it down to the middle of the interview. You did a great job until the middle of the interview. What happened was they wouldn't give us the champagne bottle.
They kept pouring it for us. So when they kept pouring it for us, we didn't have none of our liquor, We had none of our likers. So I don't want to make excuses. I want to, you know, be you know, great to my fans and say, you know, for being with us, because there's a certain people that keep saying great fucking Rick Ross interview, and I appreciate that, but I wasn't on my a game. Can I say something? Really, you held it down, so thank you. It's not not
helding it down. First of all word show called Drink Chace. Yes, if you get drunk and sometimes it doesn't work out. That's what being drunk is. It doesn't work out sometimes. Step we did a special podcast episode called the High Episode and devoted us to eat edibles and smoke and drink and then do the podcast. He couldn't do this smoke sensical, Like if I was just funked up as him, that whole episode would have been harrending. You know what the crazy ship is. It's never were both sucked up.
It's always either year up, but somebody's pet crack. Episode's got to sleep. I walked away. Let's sleep. But to a degree, that's kind of how it shouldn't be somebody. That's the point. Like, that's what I'm trying to tell people, Like, if you're a fan, we're not doing it. If you're a fan of what we're doing, like, don't get mad when we actually do what we say you do it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can't get mad at that. That is the product. That's not the real thing. What I'm saying. We drink
chance sometimes too much. So we just want to let the people know. Man, we're out here working hard. As of now, we got episodes coming uh from Na's masterp Ross. We got a whole bunch of big episodes. We want to announce it on the Come on, everybody, everybody's gonna listen to this motherfucker interviews if you want to announce it on this and we're having fun. Man, we're doing it. I so much appreciate you for coming through Manure a legend.
Our game is about bigging up legends. Be big en up people who's been seasoned, you know what I mean. People feel like, uh, the longer you've been in this game, Like I said, people call you washed up. But I want to call us season I want to call us classics.
I want to call us legends. You know what I'm saying, as opposed to people that you know, I listened to a person who's been in the game twenty years and a person has been in the game for two days any day, because our rout the your experience, and unfortunately we live in the world where that's the exact opposite. These people they want to listen to, you know, God bless these city girls, but deep, God, dam man, what
the fun is going on? These girls? I'm walking they probably they see a bit like the cigarette with a pussy, like they where is this girl? Like like this is these city girls? They got chipped this We live in a different generations quality of they got Starbucks in hall them right now. It's a fact. Moke up frappuccinos. That's not like a song up. There's nothing wrong with growth, like like like like Jada said in that that line, take them to the Gucci store showing the loafs hood niggers.
I'm just showing you broth, you know what I mean. So growth is good, man, you need to Starbucks. Okay, So now I'm just I'm in this on this one. You did an interview with Sway and Snoop forgave Iggy because Iggy has said something about Snoop and Snoop set I forget bit and you said he said, he said Sloop Bay Super Snoop said, yeah, you said, you said,
see the rappers they start off hardcohol. Yeah. Listen, I've always had a love hate relationship or some of the philosophy and rap you know they's talking about you can keep gangster hard, call gangsters killers? Like has it said? No matter how much new I get, I'm staying in the projects. He didn't live in the process when he said that, right, But my point being as all as as much as you predicate yourself on being hard, at the end of the day, your nig is a reciting poetry. Yes, son,
start smiling. It's profitable to smile because you know all of them. You can start out hard. You know you start smiling. Now we can put you in a bad can we promote the podcasts Call Up spears in Steinberg. It's available through iTunes, Slash, Apple, Google Play, Spotify, Spotify, and spearsberg dot com. Fun with Your Boy Arias on Cameo, Pay that Money, Get thee Yeah, yeah, so look me up on cameo and Instagram and all of that. Ship Yes solo. Let me just tell you something, man, once again.
I'm gonna salute y'all because this is this is about y'all. Y'all. I'm gonna give you some comedy character real quick before if we do your shot. You just did your salute, you bring my Italian half take this fucking up, fucking men amongst men. Then the fucking boys hit all right, so we're gonna take this fucking shot. I'm gonna do somebody some of that. You're gonna do a shot so fucking good, you're gonna get up a walk out of them. Yeah, okay,
I'm going west here. Yeah, if we take a picture, okay, dry out, Okay, get dropped, Get dropped. So funny,
