Episode 164 “Moments” (Memorial Day Edition)

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In this episode, you'll hear classics stories of some of the legendary artists we've lost, stories of Tupac, Biggie, Prodigy and Prince, some of our favorite moments with the legendary Combat Jack and John Singleton, maybe the rest in Peace. You'll hear stories told from some of your favorite artists like DMX, Havoc of Mob Deep E forty Snoop Dogg, Top Quality, Uncle Luke, and more so on behalf of Myself and Nori a k a. The Drink Champs. Much love to the Drink Champs Army. We hope you enjoyed

the special Memorial Day episode. Let's just get right into it. We're gonna start with these classic Tupac stories and your hats man queue that up. Motherfucker's let's make some motherfucking nor let's go. Everybody was in the sale, his billboard was cut out in the sale. He wasn't even on there for or talked about being on Therefore, we just did that as a symbolar representing him and fucking with him because he was my friend. So that was, you know, a play that I did to put him in there

to represent it. Wait, so you're saying he was your friends saying I'm the reason why he was on that phone. Yeah, that he was my friend and my thing was speaking with Sugar because after he had got shot, I had flew to New York like the next day, and it was like ship was going bad for him and he had got locked up, and I was, man, should we need to put that nigga with us? Because how far back is y'all? Spencer Uh Poetic Justice Rap Party was the first night I met him, and then we became friends.

And actually MC breed Rest in Peace was was trying to buy some dope and I knew the nigga. That knew the nigga, So Breede got some dope for me and DC and Breede was cool and Tupac and that's how we all became like a circle of friends. Crazy believe it, this is crazy. Ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie. I got so so a hip hop mode fans just now. I was just saying, I'm a guy.

I was I was supposed to ask a question at this point, Like I was just sitting there like I'm just thinking, like so um, all right, boom that Pop comes here, He's already there, y'all already doing what he's doing. These these records come out, these records, these records. Let me tell you this, so you know, all lives on me. When he gets out, I'm working on the dog Fothering.

So when he get out, my cousin Dads is like my number one supply because Drake dre basically like not really giving up music because I think he on his way out, but we already going thanks for doing in the bathroom. So so we're working on my record. So when he get out, naturally, I tell Dad's in the whole crew pod getting out, y'all throw cuzz all of the music, get him right first. So he ended up getting all this hot music because we was in the

process of doing Hot Ship. And then Pop brought a spirit to the studio that was different than anybody we ever worked with. He had a work spirit that was like this nigga could be in three different rooms at one time and making music and he would he would never listen to it. Like we was always we would we learned this from Dr Dre. We would make a song, we would listen to that motherfucker for a whole month.

I mean just back to back, thirty days just listening to the same goddamn song, party and inviting bitches over off the sun had even about yeah and then never come out. Nigga. Tupac was like, Nigga, when we make a song, when we finish it, when you're listening to that ship, pull another beat up. We're doing another motherfucking song. You can mix that motherfucking when you finished, we'll listen to it. He was never about like even when we made one song, motherfucker the last verse, I'd be like,

all right, playing bad. We played it down from top to bottom. As soon as that motherfucker cut off, all right, give it to the engineer, pull the next beat up. Never did we listen to a song twice with that nigga. That's something that I learned from him that I take with me today because I wasn't like that. I was. I learned from Dr Dre. I learned from my teacher. They taught me exactly. But Pop was on something like Nigga fun that we're going, We're going, We're going, We're going.

How are you thinking? They made three albums and motherfucking ship six months. That's Gemini, by the way, that's geminism, a Gemini. But I'm a labor all right, what's all? We can know yourself, virgo, I'm a virgo. I don't know if it means anything for this makes a noise for the sign that snoop listening, listen Snoop. I can't. I can't thank you so much. We're gonna, we gotta, we gotta go the ball. I'm not telling all actually

do what I want to a mid interview. I just want to thank you because you know what, it's the first time artists like you know what I'm saying, Like you know it's running media right now, like right now we are running in DJ and DJ. I'm sorry when I say I represent the motherfucking DJ. That's right, that's right. You always gotta have a meskin around you. You listen, everybody's from l A. You always. I'm from l A too. Yeah,

sound it's same ship. I'm originally say you always gotta kid and you know what, Pete Allas Dodge and the motherfucker you know what I'm saying, and it's the first time you know, you know we got you got g G in Yeah, So now do you I'm alway g g M when you're not there because we're gonna be in l A August Can I co host GM? Can we yes? Well cold because we're gonna be in the l A August twenty seven? So she don't do that. She's a movie star. Bitch ry pockets on that front.

There he out so the bitches in hooplat because everybody wants to meet my nigger. You understand me, and you know I ain't no motherfucking hater. I don't know how to block I get out the white. So the bitch like you understand me, I would love to meet tupocket. That's all right with you. I'm like, bit just gonna always be all right? Now what were okay? Can listen? All the stars is at So now one night I'm in the club and uh, the bitch is there, and POX see the bit She like, man, I don't want

to meet that bitch. Man, I say, hey, man, that's exactly how he described the bitch. That's my bit. I'll kindly introduce you to I walks over to him right and say, bitch, this is a Tupac Tupac meet the bit. So you know, after he meets a bit, you know, I walks off because you know, it ain't my job to stand there and see if they're gonna talk and kiss or whatnot, not take a biture. I walks off like a real player. I guess the exchange numbers. I

don't know, so you haven't stand me. A few weeks later, I'm trying to, you know, slide by and go see her, because you know, she's a slide piece to me. So I'm trying to go see it on a late night like I normally do. You don't leave that back door open and I'm like, what what's in it? I'm finished slide through, you know what I'm saying. Lead that back there's open, and the bitch hit me with I don't think Pap would like that. This girl was BA for the record, right for the record. This girl we told

about for real? That's what the bit for real? Madonna? Now that was Hey, that was Madonna. That look the nigga nigga that is. You don't think I'm making this ship up. I'm doing Saturday night lod in New York, they get documented nigga. When I had that Tommy hell figure shirt on the red, white and blue one, blew the motherfuck up. The shirt sold like a motherfucker right. So the nigga pot come and see me here in

New York. He bring me some weed and he come backstage with the bitch Madonna Madonna for real, for real, about to feel like was he man? He brought the bitch just Saturday night. He d he was knocking the bitch man because he brought me some blood. Man, he had the bitch on his own. Man, and he wasn't even like floss from the bitch. He had him right here. Tupac and Big Daddy came other way around. Tupac hand Madonna,

man cut down. This is this is this is the park in the So how did you feel a lot of people when when park passed and then you came to the scene, A lot of compared the compares. Then when he got no, they compared, how did you feels to that comparison? Some people get a fire. I should correct people as plainly as it could, Like the next part, I'm like no, I'm the first ax. They would say that great great say Thatt say that you know the next like no, I'm not the next anything, I'm the

first and then and and it's pretty good. Um. Um. Actually had a chance to see Pop walking. He said that, Oh my god mine so on Hamm and Hamm and Hammon way off sunset and l that hotel look good And I saw him. It was a cool dude. He is cool. I said six, Oh wow, wow, you met real pop. Yeah right now, maybe you happy everybody dray boarders out there. Um he walked past. I see him. My man said, what up? What up? What up? Cool dude?

You know? But I think I think I don't know what and and and and and and speaking as favorably as I can be, said one who was past. So someone who can't defend himself, I think, um, part of the problem, a big part of the problem was he didn't have what New York niggas got like uh uh from the office is my black bam. He had no one, He didn't have his crew. So one thing, you, yord nigga, I know for factors, you don't go to Cali and live there without like like having the goosepout like oh me,

you could be the hardest thing in the world. But dude, don't go way over there without no one ever knew where he was from, where you from, with no avenue him from Oakland. He lived in Oakland, we lived. But where you're from somewhere you got to get that grew up with you, that had your back, that loved you since you was in kiddygard. I mean that fund with you for real and won't let you. I need to act, said, so I keep my dog with me, Doctor said, let

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it up and make some motherfucking noise. Drink Champs, Army, let's go Raycon. Because he was already cool with you know what I'm saying, and he was like rich. I mean, he say, folty man Pop, want me to give you someumbing you want to funk what you may gave me? His number were connected there since then it was it was all love so um, y'all connected, and then like how many records y'all did they go? Let's see, Um, I got I got an unreleased track that ain't that

we're working on right now. And then um we did working on. You're still talking to him? Um, yeah, yeah, I was saying, that's that we're working on now. I'm like I was talking, you know, because people still drinking a lot. He was really don't hit me the other day. He was a lot man. But I don't say he should appear Standford the Suckers ship, that's right, now make it. What's the south of water? What's the south of water that? What's the south of water? You don't need that that

you drink this beer, you don't need that. So yeah, yeah, we called it mad Records together and we asked Uncle Luke this, I think we asked Snoop this, um, But what was the park that you you you enjoyed more the pot? And Luke had an interesting take on rolling Hennessey drinking. But that before he was the same with me at every time. You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. It was all love. Man. If

he funk with you, he fucked with you. If you don't funk with you, he'd call you out here, say your name and anything. That's what That's what he specialized in. He going, he say funk that I'm saying names, ain't none of that. Yes me this and ship you feel me? So I had to give it to him on that. But he had a reason for all the ship he you know he was he was saying, he wasn't crazy.

He wasn't crazy. Brilliant. So what's your favorite, tuopoc? Maybe you tell me your favorite your favorite time being around? I got a few, but I know you'll probably see it on on YouTube. In nine three, we had my practice looking hard video shoot and Het there through the whole video like this, you know, just you know, you know,

he had that middle aude fuck you. But the thing isn't that he showed motherfucker's how this one blunts wasn't really y'all have been fucking with blunt New York, you know, because my partner from New Jersey, when I was at Grandma State University night to Fall eight, six eighty seven, he uh, this motherfucker take a Philly blunt, and the way he did it it was it was the full blunt, you know what I'm saying. And he had gout it.

He had just take all the ship out of it and then stuff it with some booble weed, right just because that's all we had at Graham some booble with stuff that motherfucking and and tie the end up like that, you know what I mean, win it up, and that's how they did it. Back that that was the That's the first time I've seen a blunt roll so pop, you know what I'm saying here on and my video shooting, he's sitting on the little bench. We I'm over there

smoking a beating. I don't know if y'all know what sot A lot of balls back here over the world. He he got, I'm Strong is doing this bad Boy mixtape. Remember you remember it was the Bad Boys. I don't remember. Yeah, this is what this, this is what is originally for. So so it was a freestyle in a sense and in the sense it was a freestyle. So um. That day a dude named Chaz from my hood. I remember he was the flying snigger from my hood. But he

was the craziest snigger. Right. So, so chads this outside like he confused. He playing me New York, New York. He's like, yo, you think they're this on us? So I'm like, I don't know. I go to Queensbridge right to meet up. We happened to, you know, be there and stretch on. Strong calls and says, let's come to the studio. So you had I think you had the

Turkquoise blazer. Yes I did. Yeah, I read a little good the Turkoise blazes that that that the listen just in case y'all thinking about blazer out back then, A blazer was like a memory. I can't tell you what happened yesterday, but I can tell you. Come up. I remember this. So everybody we met at stretched on Strong's crib and um, I think back then, having had already gave us beat, but we ain't put nothing now but the originals on the original Dog Pound beat. So this

is what happened, I stretched, Black. Yeah, I think we had already did so what no no, no, no no no no. So what happened is this is l A l A. So what happened? Um, stretch, I said, the stretch? Yo. I remember Chas had just played me this, so I asked him he was on something called a DJ list back then, back in the days, you could send somebody a record and two months in advance and your ship wouldn't be bootlegs. You know what I'm saying, Because if he was on a DJ list, it was just so

I asked Stressed to pull it up. We heard New York when we couldn't determine if they were dissing us or not, So technically we didn't dis them. We just rhymed. Correct the video I always always, but I remember it was Prodigies verse. They took it because he said, Um, he said JFK on our way to l A M M and remember remember, and then he used that on y'all album later, But the original L A L A

were all five of us. Prodigy said, n y C, you and our verse supremacy, Havoc and pret queens Nigga, so it's seemed to be Mega got word back from Noriega. And that was on original L A l A. Oh, I'm gonna break it down. He did that on right, hold on, hold on somewhere else. No, it versus somewhere else, but it was originally on L A l A. He took it off. And when he took it off, we remember we're calling Steve Riffis. Steve looking was like, no, he doesn't want to be a part of this. Yeah,

you didn't. You didn't even make a noise to happen. Who I didn't You stayed a part of yah makes a noise to happen? Say it. But from what I heard, now, I never heard this from Prodigy or or Steve Rifkin myself, but from what I heard, Steve Riffers said, Prodigy, you didn't want to do it. And then the first came off the week that the day that we shot the video is the day it came out, and you was only supposed to come to the video, and then Prodigy showed that he was there. He was in the video.

That's right, that's right because it was it was so he did his first in the video. No, no, it was like he was just like l A l A big city. Yeah right, but you're saying it wasn't a distract who said that? No? No, But then because that intro was this no yeah yeah yeah that that was replaced. But but we heard it. We all heard it. But then that sound like live nigga rack, that was it. Then he that's when he used that person. That's when

he used that person. But originally and then here's my question, is Tupac came at y'all you know this is my record? Did you have at one point when it's be like yeah, that's question. But I didn't give a fuck because I was like, because what did you do? Um? What was the record? I loved the racket. It just dropped it too late when you went back and dropped the gym on. Yeah yeah, but I didn't kid because I was like, Yo, this nigga. Tupac then from Juice, you know, what I'm saying,

like saying that name. So I was like, fuck, like, who gives the fuck? You know what I'm saying, Because we got like a hundred queensman, well fucking kill you. But I love But did you did you realize how beef that I mean, how big that it was? Like like it was, it was huge, Like for Tupac to dis you, it's like you you go platinum or something like, I'm keeping it real. That's how I think was it

was the original, but I wanted to everything. I was like you, But then I thought about I said, I was super broke at that moment, so I couldn't have thought no Tupac beaf, but they came. It's a fact one nigga. Like at one point on one arm, I was mad that he just then other arm, I was like, holy ship, I white my sweat, but y'all went back.

I didn't give him, you didn't give drop with gym, and we did drop a gym on it because I because I always thought that like, even if we did see each other, it was gonna be like whatever, it wasn't gonna be the real ship, you know what I mean. We come from the hood, so the real ship is in the hood and these other niggas is rapids. You know, this is real ship right there. It's real ship. You know. The fans and the people wanted to notice l A story. This is dope. Like when you my radio when the

l A l A Ship was out. Believe me, we was going to l A under aliases, like when we couldn't just because Biggie got killed. Remember this time, that's true this time. What's the chronological order of that? Though? So when L A A came out? What years after ninety six? Right, and Biggie had died? When ninety six? No, no, not Google Google because the record because diverse Biggie. No, no, no, we need the Google. So this is way before Big Been, Biggie and Pop die right, Yeah, Big for sure was

the ninety seven alright six months later. Yeah, so there's still ninety seven. But still what you said you went alias names. All I know is I remember like when all of that, when all of that stuff was going down, it was the East Coast, West Coast beach. Somebody probably didn't even die yet, you understand what I'm saying. So when they did die, you understand, it was like, Okay, bulletproof cause names under alias is. But California is a market that you have to be in just sell records.

It's like a huge market and it's one of our number one markets to this day. You understand what I'm saying, and I'm sure you can agree. I love California. I'm out there, I got it. I got a crib about this. It's like, you know, make some noise for havoc flaws. Having your old storm, nick, I just teach you. You have it rolled up in a yellow cab. Let's make

some noise for that nigga. You gotta that's some old school because because because my Uber account was compromised the way you know, so when I used my Uba, somebody knows. You have to explain this because I want to watch out for this. I don't even want to explain it. But somebody knows. I'm using computers one day. One time you got tapped, right, they said that you said ship like you're not good with computers. You need to keep

the original. That's that's a segue, like you ain't sing up. Yeah, yeah, what's those messages true? Like let's just keep it real. That's just don't matter. If you seen the messages I send the compone ship. It's so good. It's the same ship. It might not you went a little too far. I did call them a fact and all that you were a little too far. Don't come down there with the shoot heavy dal with there was a shoot, was heavy. He was involved like he he wasn't shooting, but he was.

Now in your opinion, you both knowing Pocket and Big, there's very few people who know Pocket and Big. There's people who know Pop great, and of people who know Big a little bit, people who know Big a lot, people who know Pop a little bit. But you know them both for them, do you think they could have

ever squashed that? Like yeah, I mean on the People Show when Pop got out of jail, I Pop, then I would an interview Biggie, and then through the interviewing process of it, it was more like I was interviewing them, but I was like Nigga chilling funk out, you know. So it was more of me having a conversation with them about chilling fun out. You too, Motherucker's need to

make money. This ship is about money, y'all taking this too to the extreme, because you know, I was in St. Louis doing a show with Big and Big out there. You know, motherfucker's they wanted did this Pop on stage

and they were boring. You know, I'm I'm sitting up there like you know, I'm like, okay, you know the mediator and the whole ship, like and Big when this so then I when I interviewed, uh when when I interviewed pop Pop was just going crazy, you know, oh yeah, yeah yeah, this girl and did this and and then that and all this, And I'm like, so when interview over there looking at man, you need to chill the

funk out, you know what I'm saying. You know, so many of them had you know, we could talk because I know him before he linked up with you know, with the Death Row dudes. I know him when he was with did you Don't Underground? You know? So I know this young dude, he you know, on something black power ship. You know, I know where he's coming from. So you know, you ain't on what you you know, I'm like, what you change? What are you doing? You

know what I'm saying? You're you on that, you know, on that black man ship with you, which is I know how that's how you raised. You're always on that. You don't know do nothing other black man. So you know, we had that conversation and you know, I want to go in interview Biggie Big Ones say one word about it? Yeah, Big One, you talk big you know Big Ones say nothing. It was like nine nine, you know, he just kept

it like, uh, Kevin, like really one hundred. So it was it was they were they were gonna talk, you know after me. If I had the conversation with both of them, you know, they were gonna talk. But then for some reason, you knew Pop pre Death Roll, Yeah, and then what's that after? Right? Well? Which which park you related to more? The park before before Death Roll Underground. It's all like it's almost like two different people totally to different people totally. Man, I can relate. I'm a Gemini,

Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. It's almost like, uh, you know, young dude, you know, hanging out with a cooler people, then you conform into that crew. You know. That's why always, you know, when I'm working with kids, I tell kids, don't be no following. You know, in the back of my mind, I'm thinking about, you know, them soldiers who like pop. You know what I'm saying, You gotta be your old man. You can't get caught up in you know,

the ship somebody else trying to do. You think Pop was following though in that sense you do, you don't think I think he had a plan to get out of that situation or change the trajectory of what he was trying to do. That's what everybody, well, when you when you when you when you want some real black man ship, like better got a baby, and then you go overhead, not not not exactly bring. I mean he was deep. He was deep. He was on some real black man ship, you know, black power black like this.

He was on some deep black man And then so now you get linked up with this crew on that on some different ship, then you conformed to be like that. You feel me? So I knew him before that. You know, there's this young man. We're just trying to get on, trying to get this music here, trying to do the right thing. I'm on some black man ship. He was more, he was more deeper than then public Enemy then public Enemy,

that black man ship. So then I when you go and you linked with this crew here, then you kind of conformed to that. And then now you got whole crew of and you had already had beef for death Roll, so you knew what type of mind sticky. Yeah it was, you know it was you know, it was like on some you know, we tough guyship. So then now you got this young guy that's really you know, just searching for a family. You bring me in and before you know it, he conformed into you know, it's like, uh,

become a product of your environment. So he became a product of that environment before we moved on to that. You ever hung out with Pun as well? Yeah? Yeah, how was how was it hanging out Pun? Fun? Pun and Joe? I remember, you know when I first met Joe. You know, I went to the went to the fucking club and uh the Puerto Rican club story, let's get it. So I go to club, hang out with Joe Bunton, Joe beat the ship out of some club like this motherfucker is so up. Some motherfucker like what the fund

is this? Right? But but after that, I mean we end up doing something together and uh and some of the other guys in the group. Next up is from episode eighty six of Drink Champs. We sat down with the legendary film director John Singleton and man, what can I say, you know, it's it really hurt to to you know, to see John go, you know, and I'm just really happy that that we had a chance to sit down with him. You know. It's it's never a good thing when when you know people leave, you know,

it seems before their time. And just felt like John had a lot of things left to do. So it's uh, very unfortunate, and our condolences to his entire family and close friends. But we're grateful that we got the opportunity to sit down on him, really humble guy for everything he had accomplished. So in case you missed it, checkout episode eighty six with our guests John Singleton. Um. But

here's some moments from it. You're so rich man, here we're here, you got yachts and all type of things, and you know what, you're humble god, but almost I'm a brag brag for brag for you man, you know what I mean. We want to listen. I don't know if you know what our show was about. Giving all legends flowers when they can smell them, and treats when they get held them because our our society so much praise as a person after they die and I feel

like that is so backwards. Yeah you should. I should be able to tell you how much I appreciate you right here, face to face man and man, as opposed to waiting for you to pass away and then be like, yeah, he's a great guy. I mean and him party they in the back of the day. I should say that now, like you know what I'm saying. Like, And I actually learned that through Dave Chappelle, you know, when the way it was print and it was like he started praising

Prince while Prince was alive. And it's just like, that's what we got to continue to do. And that's not just as a culture, that's as as people, like as human human beings. As human beings, we gotta start praising our people where they're here. So with that being said, I wasn't working with Janet Jackson penny. You know, come on, it's beautiful. It was jerked off the penny a lot. Throw that out there. It was good. I don't know if that's serious, the whole age thing. No, that was

not serious. That was a joke that we was having on the set. Because the real talk is Tupac was attracted Dejane. I was attracted Jana the world. We're in the set, we're both trying to like, you know, floodwater and stuff, and I'm like, you know what, I don't know if you know, I should have you kissing on my actress because you know, you know, and fucking around

doing all this ship. You know, Pope was just coming to his own then, right and I was like, man, I was like, yeah, you know what, You're gonna have to do an as test for y'all, do this left scene. It was a joke, but he said, no, it's you know, it's me saw not my nigger on the sun right before, just like talking ship and then we're like, oh, ship, we should we should we should use this, we should put this out. And so that's what we did as a publicity thing. As a publicity thing, we just did that.

But it's just like us talking. We got Jackson, but it was just us talking on the ship on the set and everything and this, and you know it was an inside joke. That's when it works. Now, not only did you get to work with Janet Jackson, if you got to work with the big man Mike Jackson, did he have a glove one when you met him? No, he didn't have a guy. He's where he wore the

old fun I got a lot and he didn't. He didn't's a crazy because in his in his problem was you see it Michael on on camera and suff he didn't talk the way that he talks, you know, and he said that Mike, Mike was a nigger, like Mike was like different, different and every tone and everything that I'm just saying that just that was an expectation that he put on for the cameras. He didn't he wouldn't talk about it. He was just a brother. He was

different to every different to me and everything. It's just like, you know, he's just like hey, you know. And he was really despite what he you know, he ended up doing to his face and his skin got lighter and everything. He was a real brother man. He was really about black people because I heard that video. He actually that was after Magic actually announced and he wanted to do something and Mike wanted Mike wanted Magic in the video. He said, you know, cal him Magic, Let's get him

in the video. Remember the time, remember time. I hate that ship in my head, right, I ain't gonna lie. I couldn't have met Michael Jackson. I would like I would have gave him. I would gave him a file too hard. Who oh not? U gave us the crazy Michael Jackson s. But so how was it? Was he a pure genius? Like was he everything? He was? His

damn near genius? I mean dann mal genius. I mean like you know the things that that uh that he did and that he uh and that he wanted to do and stuff, you know, like unprecedented in this business. You know, have you ever been U starstruck? Yeah? Who who? You stought? I gotta hear this. I mean, I'm only bet star shot two times in my whole career. I

need to hear both. Let's go for it. The first was meeting Steven Spielberg because it's like, you know, as a kid going up, you know, like he was, you know, the the young person that went on to make movies at an early age, and I wanted to be like that, Um just nervous, and you know I saw him and that as soon as I saw him and we met just it was like it was like, um, you know,

it was it was as great. You know, it's like the godfather of filmmaking, of filmmaking, the second was what your prior, yea Richard Pribord, remember prior at the comedy store. I was, I used to hang out the comed store. As soon as you say you met Richard prior, I thought the comedy store and so uh And it's funny because Richard probably was hanging out with Opportina Comedy Club was Hollywood, are you here this with a Patine Richard with Opportunito And I can't even love that dope, And

I'm like, let's throw that out there. I don't even look at Opportune. I'm looking at much private. But Richard used to have this do that work for him. Um. It came over to me, um and and he said, uh, you know, uh, Richard would like to say hello to you. And I walked across from him, and Richard was kind of frail here. The ms was getting them, but it

wasn't as bad. He wasn't wheelchah, it wasn't built. And he just said, uh, uh you know the young man that made that movie because boys in the Hood just came out. And I said, yes, sir, I am. And mind you because you're like me. You listen to every rich pri Mama had since birth. Curse he said, are you the man amant the movie? I said, yes, sir, yeah, and he goes against me a hut n. I just cried on the shoulder I saw, I said, because because this is a man. And then after that we became friends.

I used to go up to his house and said, he'd be sitting up in the bed. You have a gun right by the side of his bad. This is mother got guns right next to and every comedian, Wayne's brothers, whoever it was, he pulled guns out. No, no other people will come through. They come through every day to pay homaged Richard. We hope you're enjoying the special Memorial Day episode of Drink Champs as we pay re BacT in homage and immoralized the life of these legendary artists.

Up next. I mean, there's not much that that can be said that has it that isn't always said and and and just known about Biggie Smalls a K. The notorious b I g Um Big is just, you know, just bigger than life. He He's just one of those iconic figures in hip hop and you can't even just begin to imagine what he would have accomplished if he would still be here with us and what he could

have done. Unfortunately, again an untimely death for such a great hip hop artists, just a great artist in general, but but for hip hop, it's just he was just monumental and so so iconic. So uh. These next stories come from Uncle Luke, E Forty, Puffy and Little Ces. Listen as they share their notorious b I G stories. You know, rest in peace, Biggie Smalls, Big Man, we love you man. Let's get into these stories. But he

was in a car accident. He was in the car accident, okay, because you was like the drive I got heard Big never drove, never drove, never drove his life. Okay, So what happened he was we had got arrested um day before that. Let's make some noise of little Season, Big Game. We got arrested downtown Brooklyn or some bud and they took our truck. When we got the truck back that that Alexis. We got it back, the ship didn't work, so they had to ship the ship to the car dealership.

We went to the next morning to pick up a loan. This car. It was a luminum van. Yeah. We we trade an Alexis car for a Lumino van and I was like, I shouldn't we get Alexus like he was like, no, I'm gonna ride low, Let's just take this drive. And I jumped in that ship and were driving around this little just still a fork and the ship just sped out of control. I ran into a rail. How old were you at that? About sixteen? He was already driving,

had no else driving dirty? This? K Rose would answered, yeah, yeah, yeah, So that's what happened, and he funked up his leg. I had to get these gold fronts to a place, two joints that was sucked up. That's why he had to put down the rhyme. And uh time in the radio station where he said that rhyme, was that the first time you heard that rhyme? I heard the song? She already yeah, you already. I had to accept that one though, you know what I mean. I took one

for the team, right so now also right, uh? I wanted to ask this question. Um this this comes via shot him read. I believe he said, what were big his plans for the Commission album with Jay? Who else was supposed to be in that group? What label was supposed to be on? And who was supposed to be in the commission. Commission he had no label idea for yet, so he didn't know what label he's gonna do it on. It probably gonna be on Undear that was his label.

He's probably gonna do it on that, depending on part what Jay was gonna do. But the commission was me, Jay Z, Charlie Baltimore Big and No just don't play like the boss of it, but tells his way of like pushing Charlie out. He was gonna push Charlie through the through the commission ships. So that's how he was gonna break that down. I actually spoke to on the other day and it was crazy because unset to me.

He said, you know, it's a crazy ship, Nori. Nobody's never interviewed him about Big, like he was his business part enough and people didn't this is so you know, doing drink chance like he had to sit there and just think about it, and it was like, Yo, you know what, Nobody never really asks me about Big, because well, I guess what happened after Big, because Cam was supposed to be signed to you guys, Yeah, because Cam was actually BIG's artist and the poem Yes, yes, you gotta

tell the I'm taking too. I was so scared. I was so scared of of Big because that's all I listened to. That's all I was listened to with jail. So I seen him in from the Hot thirty seven and he was like, yo, he asked something. He asked to rhyme and that was schill but compone did rob and he was like, yo, I'm making you junior Mafia tomorrow words. And I was so hated. I was like he was trying to he was trying to get the squad. Now she was always yeah, she used to always put us,

put us on your you know what. The crazy ship was um been Big been Big in the movie when Big is making these last phone calls, the crazy ship was Big had called me and he played me t or and why And I was like, he called you. He called me and was like be your favorite records. One I'm working with this and at the top two or was not I swow im figuring me Big And I told he didn't put two and two together that

Now she was a bad way to do something. So I didn't know, you're imagine that like getting that call and I'm worried about my sea bootleg it's over me. But so now see you didn't been your whole childhood, so did you? Was he always the best wrapper alive? Or you knew you knew he was? He was nice back then. I just knew from the rip he was dope.

I'm saying, you know what I mean, Like, we didn't think he was gonna be to the level of what it is now or when he became even when he was like when he was out, I mean, we didn't think it was that. But he was nice and it was to come through the look difference between five years. So he uh brother, Yeah, when he was twenty, I was fickteen years old, just running around. He took me out the street since I was eleven, you know him, since I was like five six years old and I

was in public school. She on street and then the number five years, I was on that same strip trying to hustle and do all that ship and he seen that ship with me like that ain't just the funk out of here now I'm gonna tak me. Took me out of that that one. And you know what's funny, A lot of people give jay Z credit for, like, you know, putting like a lot of his friends on. But a lot of people don't really realize that Big did that first from that camp camera on little cs

Charlie Baltimore, little kid want some ship. Um he got carew chain and all that big he had the club in Atlanta, he was doing checkob out there doing Big Ship and all that came from just be getting put on, set up for all the pipelines for anybody to do. What's that Stan from the beginning was like I'm gonna get on. And then because then you had you had that album. What's that album? That was like one of the most slept on albums? Why do you think people

slept on that album? I just think Atlantic then push it. I don't think they push it the right way, you know what I'm saying. And the money that we had that they gave us, we used it wrong on expensive videos, dollars eight thousand dollar videos. And once you do that first video don't work, they don't want to shoot no more videos. They're like, no, that's what happened. Another two weeks, another month, ship don't move and they just kind of

just let it go, you know what I mean. But as long as people liked it and accepted it, it was cool with that. What I'm saying, I always wanted to ask, like crush on you video? Right? That was like the first time we've seen a female change wigs, Like did you like she like? Like you like chance? It's like was was was that's something that y'all was

like this is dope? Or was he? Because you know, sometimes to be skeptic or something didn't work, you'd be like, yeah, oh I knew it all along, but you know the stop like this is a risk us as little nigger as we just sat around and just let that was. That was Big getting Undershot, like to do the partnership with unders and under one that was doing the ideas for the videos. Did all our videos get money? Players? Anthem much on you? We just we just did what

we're saying to do. Yeah, he directed all those videos. That was that was That was his way in the business. You know what I'm saying, experience nothing straight. Then it came straight from the streets straight trapp and went from hustling and went behind the cambra and was like y'all got some ideas and Big trusted them and all them ships just happened to pop and they and they rocked Fords. We didn't say no. We just played opposition. Do you

want me to go? Go ahead? Go ahead? And just so happened the ship actually the ship blew up what I'm saying, And that was just all within ups. That was all the fam team. We was like big. We was like big Guinea. We was his creation. He was learning all that ship from Puff and I was like, no, I ain't taking dreaming off here of the Puff. I mean, it's gonna be my own thing. Let me see if I couldn't learn without learned from him, and let me

set everybody like why you didn't sound they try? Even at that time he was trying to spread rumors like big, but I always seem big cool. We've just always been like a second family that you know. That was big, That was bey ship, and I'm trying to be I created us to a whole another pipe line. Everything he learned from Puff, he kind of tested it with us and the ship working. Goddamn, what do you think? What do you think be O's next move would have been?

Like like because like because like he was one thinks monumental, So what was his next move would have been? Had he he's been on His whole thing was the music. That's ah, that nig was a fan of music. It's just next thing was Kim and another Junior Mafia project. You want to do the commission ship he was about. He was gonna sign Cam he was, you know he was. This ship was about music. He wanted to set up

his own their party. That was a big whole thing, Like you want to give it a bunch of nice niggers and put some ship together and just let it run from there. He wanted to do five albums and retire. He's gonna write my albums after that. I'm gonna write a bunch of Little Seeds albums. You gotta, you gotta relax. He gotta real. He didn't mean my whole life was easy for him to write for me, Like I got built into being that ship. I didn't sit back. I didn't want to be a rapper. I won ten years old,

eleven years old to my yall. I'm ready to spend, I'm ready to get busy. I love the music. I love listening to it. You know that was my thing, But I never thought about rapping. It was just a thing for him, Like all right, this little nigga, he got the wave. He knows what to do. He can before you even knew what he told you, You're gonna be ryn write your album right, all right? Cool? Say

no more? Yeah you want me to do? Because I was rocking with him, doing the hype man stuff with him, so we all do like colleges and ship like that, and he was watching that. Okay, the only thing I need to do is just write him some rhymes. What I'm saying him, some little cool ass rhymes. You wanna be this little cool kid with the knapsat Tommy hill Finger did tell me, don't want on niggas be likely just all all bit. That's why you was on the kid, That's why the crush on you. That was my creation.

After that, my album suppos't been so straight, like wow, Puppy Love. That was name my album, Puppy Love for real cool A bunch of crushes from you. When he died, I can't My whole ship was like the wonful world of Season Leo. That would be with the King go but ass, with the bitch's hands covered with me. That was se the Leo ideal, Like all right, I did. I need to make a different kind of approach to us. How did you link with it? I mean, you know,

I brought him down to do a show. You know, it was Super weekend and then you know he came. He was like, you know, him juling off, you know that. They were like big was like, okay, man, I'm doing your pat jam the big one. The second one was around the corner. He was like, man, I ain't gonna do that, motherfucker. Let you come Because pat jam here was what we call it was a Apolo South. They would go up in there and the artists would go in there and they'll be looking like this at your ass.

You know, motherfucker, you better get to the song. You know, we really know. It was the hardest order the sound man. You have a dirty guy like who came out like the crowd. So was like, yeah, I ain't doing that, motherfucker. Let you let you come up in there, and so many him. You know, we ended up linking up that weekend and we was friends forever. I mean, he uh, he would tell me stories about you know, him him being a big fan of Poison Clan. You know what

I'm saying. He told me he was like, man, this fucking JT Money. You know, I you know, before I got into business, I got all his ship. So it was like, damn, so you know what I'm looking at him like. He was like, nah, man, that was my dude. There, that's my dude. And so wed him hit it off. Every time you come down, I go to New York, I would hang out with him and uh we end up doing a record together and he wasn't there with

he died in a right. I was in l A. Actually I was in the studio doing I was supposed to link up with him and me and uh me and Stoop was in the students think so yeah when they ended up when they told us about him, did then? You know, we were sitting in the studio and I think he said on the Breakfast Club you were supposed to meet with him somewhere. Yeah, we were supposed to go to another party. It was at a party we were recording, and uh, we were supposed to go link

up after it. God, God bless Big Man, God bless Jia Mafia. You know what I'm saying. Um, And did you ever meet Tupac oh Park? Was? No, that was my guy. Let's break out some is some now? Is the bitches involved? Part? Was that was another one of my little son Let's make yeah part. Would Pop would come down? You know you hang out? Prop was like George Jepson get jumpson on the on the Jempson that that motherfucker just sitting in the car and talk talk talk talk talk. I mean we would be on the

road together, we see each other. You would be in my room. I'm sitting there, land down and sleep. This motherfucker still talk got damn you know I heard every story there was that was part with my dude, that's my nigger. That's so let me ask you, because it had to be weird from you. Everybody knew you ran Miami after especially all the termorial the beat said everybody everybody clearly knew that that was your section. But now this East cost because the nigga's personalities was ill like

like like most fact niggers got good personalities. I think I would have been at centric social media work that been terrorizing people. How was the How was the transition? Because you knew pop, you knew Pop and Big when they were cool, Like even in the movie, it's like you see Big and you say yo yo, poppets in

the joint and that was that was all love. Like, So, how was that to see that transition, because I mean it was it was sucked up because they know Big really had genuine love for him, and we all know he had genuine love for Big two. Let me let me act. You know something, if something, if something wanted,

if something wanted to happen, it could have happened. What I'm saying, nothing could have stopped that though we was we were seeing each other in plenty places and if something because it was so you're saying, well, whoa whoa, whoa, whoa whoa You're saying, as these records is out, y'all were seeing each other each other a few times and the sole Train Awards when they could have happened at that time if they wanted to, Like, yeah, situations happened before,

but it just never went there. And I just think he didn't He didn't really want that. I just think he had a lot of people behind him pushing him, and it was vice versa. You know, you had people are not here too because negative and us too, you know what I'm saying. But they never would have did nothing to each other because genuinely he knew Big headlove for you know, and Big New Ye had love for him, he would he. I just think he was just going

with a situation. I mean, you got niggas that just balls you out of jail, and you owe your loyal teacher that he didn't do nothing wrong by that, you know, I mean, and took you out of a situation beyond. And they both died the same way. That ship is like so crazy, like six months apart, the same kind of situation. The album's maca Velly Die all that ship is just like a whole weird thing. And I was just thinking it was just that just I was meant to beat dog. You can't change it. You can't like

do the wood ifs. And it was just they both got caught up in a bad situation and they ain't deserve the people. I always I always wish they had passed it up, because I think that would have been

it was they was. I suppose they don't because we did a record together for case Lad called Very the Hatchet I did with the Outlaws, and you know, it took us fifteen years for us to sit down and talk about you know what I'm saying, Like we ain't like each other to fit teen years and none of us stuff even met each other and knew each other none. And one day we spoke to a female. One day, I'm chalking to this chicken. She must have said my name real loud and young. Know we heard of grabbed

the phone from her. Yo, who this real aggressive? And I'm just like this, see outlaws. I'm like, I heard you. It was up outlaws. I heard you. What's good? And we sat there. We talked for about two hours. We got a chance to really speak on ship. He didn't know a lot of ship that was going on the outside. I ain't know. And we spoke and then he came to New York on damn. We got up and sat

down and kicked it. Then, my niggers to this day, he said, Yo, when when Uh Pop was going to Vegas before that, he was like, yo, when he come back from Vegas, he was gonna sell that ship with bit you know what I mean. So that ship was gonna get dead it you know, I mean eventually, you know what I mean, it was gonna get squashed. He really knew what happened. He knew what was going on. He knew Big didn't have nothing to do with that. He knew we didn't have nothing to do with that.

I just think he was just caught up in a situation and vice versa two. His things that did when he didn't change it was they were young. We don't really a lot of time young. They were dog like, you know, when his forties making this type of mistakes up. We were kids. I look at it now because I'm over thirty. I'm over thirty years old. I'm almost forty, So I look at it. I look at it there like, damn, these niggles actually babies. Dog we didn't ain't know no better.

And let me let me tell you something. When we dropped l A l A, I stepped to Big and I told him that, and he said, he said, yo, I don't want to be um. I don't want that record to come out because what they accusing me for Nori, I ain't do so I gotta like he always knew to take the high row like it was ill he was. He'll tell you like, no, dog, ain't ain't the way. But you know, to each his own, you want to

do that, you don't do that. We couldn't stop him from doing that, but we was loving them for doing it. You know what I'm saying like then was like man, we stepped up to the plate. But it's like, yo, let's not well, we don't want to do that. We're trying to get some money, you know, like you know that's how b our ship was. Don't we're trying to get money. We ain't any ship for that. And if you're gonna be beef, don't make it hot. You're gonna make it hot. You make it. You're gonna do some

real ship. Don't responding your reaction to nothing. They ain't say nothing. You don't know what's gonna happen when you say, I ain't saying no response you bigger cut you off. You're spawning anything you make a record, don't call me no more, don't come to You're just done finish. We don't do that now for the record, they the rumor is who shot you was recorded way before before that as a vinyl like like, yeah, it didn't make sense before any two that was supposed to be from Mary

j album. You feel me. I ain't know bragging none of that ship, But I don't know personally, we just we just want to know. Yeah, he's probably be running right now. Actually, but what happened though, like, um, he came to the bay he wanted, he was in sacrament I didn't even know you got him out, like y'all. No, no, no, it was some people I knew, but I didn't know. I didn't even know the mother fuckers had him out theory because they didn't promoted right or some ship. But

they was. They hit me at eleven o'clock something like that night. They were like, man, I got to first of all the way, I didn't had nothing against him, and I know Pok had issues because Park really knew him. I didn't know him like that, but he had gotten because after the Park ship, the ship that had happened at qual this was ship. This was what year was this? Man?

I don't know. I forgot man. But anyway you could do you do them just as all that and ship anyway, So the thing is that, um, what do you do? He awesome magazine. It was a magazine, the Canadian magazine. Dude had did interviews in and they said they said they got him drunk, just like you. Motherfucker's got him hell and they got a hell of drunk and start asking him on the scale from from one of ten, from you know, from one of the ten. Who do you? You know who you rate this? Like he said Spice

ones and ice Q like everybody in the street. That was somebody. And he got to my name and he's, oh man, that's he's big. He's whacked. Man. He got he give him, give him a zero. You know I'm talking about mind you I've been I was wearing Kangles in high school. I'm almost forty nine years old, so I've been wearing Kangles. You know what I'm saying. All that ship just so happened that the dude had the kind of same kind of swag I had, like you know,

Kuji Kuji shirts, was sweaters, was in for Sasha. We just you know, that was the ship when you were tycoon, you're working with it, you know what I'm saying. He was just on the West coast. He was on the East coast. I'm on the West coast. So I don't know if that's what had him saying saying the nigga zero, But my my, my status unorthodox. So the motherfucker's that think that can't catch it, they'd catch it later because I said a lot of ship that it ain't just slang.

Just the ship. I say, you know what, it's kind of ahead of his time. You know. Then they're like, oh man, because its fans that I had got right now, that's die harsh. That didn't understand me, they said. When I was younger, I just thought you was whacked. But as I started listening more and more and living the life that going through this then and thing, I'm like,

my nigga, you the best fish, feel me. So to make a long story short, man, so dude, um so, everybody had got wind of the ship, you know what I'm talking about, and that's what far as him dissing me in that magazine. So my little dudes they were all hot and shipped too. So they just so happened to sneak up the secramento you know I'm talking about. They had, I guess to do. They threw the show. He was out there. They called me a Leavin something

at night. What you want me to do with this nigga? Woo? And um I told him, I put put the nick on the phone. You feel me like that? So they put him on the phone and whatnot, and we chopped it up and he was like, man, fody you know, man, look man, I was drunk. Man, But I funk what you duke. You know what I'm saying A photo y'all heard the story before and all that. I'm so glad nothing happened to him, you know what I mean. I didn't want that. I wouldn't even if I were to

see that, wouldn't tried to knock him down. It wasn't nothing, and I seen him later on week. We chopped it up by the fact I was supposed to be on this last album, Life After Death. If you go, if we if we find the actual physical copy back then we did shoutouts. We shot out, We shout out people things and go look in there and it's gonna say shout out to E forty. You feel what I'm saying, So that ship was done with man? You feel me like that? Yeah, let's make some noise of that. You

know what. I actually to tell the truth A forty. I actually never actually heard the story. I heard the rumor pieces of it. By the way, I didn't set it up. I meant to say that I definitely had that and that's on. That's on everything I love and I don't like like that and I don't play with God. They didn't set that up, but that's the rumor. The rumors always the one was a phony nigger that had trying to claim that ship. Yeah, you know what I'm saying,

I ain't gonna claim it. I ain't gonna act like you know what I mean was he came to the Bay Area, he couldn't leave, but he spoke to He wasn't even the beat. He was in Sacramentico, which is northern California. It's northern California. But it's not the bag killing. That's my that's my my, my mother in five Mexican home. I want to take time for my my brother Ali. Yo, tell Ali get well soon. Man, Damn you're like you killed him right now. Shout out to the uber homes

to Miami. When we dropped L A l A. I stepped to Big and I told him that and he said, he said, Yo, I don't want to be um. I don't want that record to come out because what they accusing me for Nori, I ain't do so. I gotta like he always knew to take the high row like it was ill like he was. He'll tell you like, no, dog ain't ain't the way. But you know, to each his own, you want to do that you don't do that.

We couldn't stop him from doing that, but we was loving him for doing it, you know what I'm saying Like that, he was like, man, we stepped up to the plate. But it's like, yo, let's not well, we don't want to do that. We're trying to get some money, you know, like you know that's how b our ship was. Don't we're trying to get money. We ain't in this ship for that. And if you're gonna be beef, don't make it hot. Gonna make it hot, you make it. You're gonna do some real ship. Don't you spading your

reaction to nothing? Big ain't say nothing. You don't know what's gonna happen when you see I ain't saying nothing, no response you bigger, cut you off. You're spawning anything. Now you make a record, don't call me no more. Don't come to nigger. You're you're done, finish. We don't

do that now for the record day. The rumor is who shot you was recorded way before that as a vinyl like like didn't Yeah, it didn't make sense before any two that's supposed to been from Mary j album for her that's supposed an intro to her first album, Get the Funk Out. Who Shots My Life is the second album intro to the second album, It was too hard for it too was take you kids in the building. You know, we gotta put you over there. You gotta put you over there again. I've been hanging out with

my man for about the week. Kiss serious and you go to the gym to every day snaphing got up playing for he don't play those games and with drink with you, so you said, who shot You? Was done? Was done for what? That was for Mary J Blide That was to her second album, and it was it was baby, let's Keith LLL COO J and big on it. Who Shot You? Yeah, that's the original Keith Murray J. Originally was Keith, Mary J and b I and it was from Mary. It was the intro to Mary J

My Life album. I never heard of it and it was like, this is too hard to be just to start off for R and B album. And once they scratched it, b I was like, give me the record. I'm gonna sunk with it, and b I added the second verse to it and took it. It was a B side record and put it on the B side too.

I wish it what Big paper one more chance it was on and we just ran with that was way before that, but it did feel like Big was coming at It's a coincidence that, I mean that had me at that time, No, I know I noticed, but like that, Why would people think that when they know they already earned this record before? Because that was just Big generation stupid. Now they've been stupid. You say, I'm like, why y'all,

Why would y'all think that? But I understand just from the situation at that time, I knew how it was. But we you know, Bigness sweat it though Big New Big News. It was Bigger. That's you know, he like man, he know that song and about you know that song. We're done before that, you know what I mean? So big that when Big is on stage and they kind of born them and oh that was real. That was we was a Satha Mano and ship the South Amento.

It was a bunch of like West Coast on his booked on that show, not you for his be legit the pute we get love out there. You know, we didn't know about this interview, uh, this interview that Big opposed he did with this dude from Toronto. He put a bunch of ships and said, big was this is why West Coast all this ship and uh I remember walking through that ship and Nigga mac Tim bumped me and ship well, you know, I walked through the spot like the circus spots he was in there and see

the type of business in here. Walked through one time. I just get the film. I turned out. I looked back to Nick Mactin like this with me, so I looks a big motherfucker. So I was like, big this ship though it don't feel like that that love. When we got on stage, you don't stay then stop throwing coins at us and ship man you know that coins throwing that you're on stage and ship's hurt my nigger that sho and big guy mad I was like, your fun that throwing? Who shot you? Who shot shot? And

when do who shots you? On? They just start going nuts. They stopped throwing. They want bad But I did that ship. I didn't want to do that right here, listen dog say that the place you know you get guy Big requested it like like you shoot me like butcher, like it's crazy in a funny way, it's crazy like like but sometimes you gotta take those. It's just stand out. They just didn't want to feel like, you know, they was getting to them where they was attimidating them like

I fuck, man, I want to do that. Who shot you enough? Like trying to hold that ship just like who shot you? Who shot you? On that ship just changed the whole momentum. Ship we got followed back to be leagit, follow us back to the hotel that day and all that ship. Man, they thought Big was trying to diss the whole city. Some bullshit that's interviewed somebody put out. But then they squashed that ship right there. Big on the phone efore and talk about it. Let's

you know what that hit. It was like, yo, man, let me know, y'all get to the town, you get to their ports, saton. That was what the nwnstairs and anything stayed in the hotel a lot before to the whole to the next morning, took us to the at. If you go online, you can find this demo um before unsigned hype. You heard it, No, I heard it.

I saw unsigned Hype and that's that's when I called Maddie see miss the Sea, and I, you know, track down the demo from just the explanation of what I heard, you know, and his look was so disruptive, you know, it's a good way to explain he felt. He felt like Miles Davis to me, you know what I'm saying. When I when I had first song, but it was like it was it was a vibrational attraction that was dead.

Like I knew, I like store up to stare at the picture, you know what I'm saying, for like maybe six days, you know what I'm saying after hearing the music, you know, no, no, before I even got the demo, just a picture in itself was giving me this strong vibration that I knew that whatever this guy was saying, like you know, it was it was something that was It was something that was really really really really authentic,

just by the look in his eyes, you know. And then when I heard the music, you know, it was one of those things I merely called my girl and I was like, Yo, you gotta you gotta tell me if this is as hot as great as is, I really believe it is. You know, she heard it. She was like like, wherever he's at, you better go get him, you know what I'm saying. And now that was that's interesting that you said you called your girl. Yeah, because women are the biggest consumers of music without a doubt.

So how how did you know that early on? Um? Because everything I did was for girls, My whole swag, my whole you know, um, musically dancing. I started dancing because you know, I like, really, I really trust women's opinions, and I liked the vibration. And you know, I've always just loved women that really were into music, you know, that knew how to dance and was in the music.

I can't even relate to somebody it's not into music, So you know, um, you know, I had a girl that was really into music, and and I really trusted her judgment. So it was something that something that you know when it's something crazy and you got a girl that's like that on that same wavelength. She said that about Big Pride to see just on the demo just on Yeah, yeah, the demo is crazy. Demo is some

of his best works. None of those tracks made it now, I mean he just he was just freestyling over some beats. So it wasn't you know, it wasn't that time where you could just wrap on somebody's beat. He was. He was like kind of the first to do that. I mean second when you know, you did the jacket for Beasts, but he didn't. In another way, but when he went and rapped before Ready to Die on all l A beats, you know what I'm saying. Before that, it wasn't like

people were getting on people's tracks, what I'm saying. So, so, how did you guys started incorporating like the R and B s, the R and B tracks, like the Juicy's and all that. Because I can listen to Biggest Demo and I can tell that that was directly um Uh, which was my favorite record by the way, Juicy. But but how do you go about convincing a hardcore artists like big um to that this commercial, this commercial success is something that he needs. It really wasn't a lot

of convincing. I was like, yo, if you want to you know, if you want to be big Big and you know, first of all, when we did partying bullshit, he he didn't didn't know how to write a song, so you know, you know, just like most rappers, you know what I'm saying, everything was like sixty bars and everything. And then so you know, once you know, I kind of broke down the whole song structured. To him, he was like a genius, so he didn't he would take it and then and and and he just really was

strong on making songs. People didn't write wraps down. Um. That was that was the second year. Yeah, yeah, this breaking news. A lot of people don't know that. Yeah, the first year he would write him down. By the second year, you know, he was just sitting the room and you wouldn't say nothing for like maybe two or three days and go in and just do it from head to toe. No punching in, nothing like that. Maybe

a couple of times, you know, let's yeah. But as far as the as far as the big record, you know, going after the Juicy and the Big Papa with the Ozzy Brothers, it was just it was a vibe that I was in that I had. I had already seen work to a certain degree, and I knew with Mobi and Premier we had the harder edge tracks, and I knew that there was just this opportunity, um because even you know, the West Coast was doing in their way that their style of sampling more commercial type of hits.

But I knew that these joints right here These were the things that I I grew up to in Hallan when I used to have to do my chores in the morning. These records was really really deep, like sheet to me, you know what I'm saying, and and just having that juicy sample and in the Big Papa joint

and then the One More Chance. I had all that at the same time, So you know, I knew he wanted to be fly and I told him like, this is the road to the flying noess, she just gonna be really dusty and be doing videos behind like in abandoned buildings, And he was like, I want to be flying. He always wanted to just have make sure his gear was flyer. Then somebody that was slimmer. Now that One More Chance remix like in the Streets album was already

a phenomenon. We already knew where Big was going. But then y'all one more Chance remix and video like how like what was the fund? Did you thinking? To say? Like what was it? Because because I believe he was gold at the time, was that to like the record that you wanted to take it over to the platinum or yeah? Yeah, you know, um as a producer, I

get here giving me the you know, the confidence. So you know, when you really believe in everything's great and you're in that frequency, you know, that's what you're attracting. And I attracted that sample and I was like this one right here, this is this right this right here? Scary? You know, it was scary, you know because it was a true record for the ladies. And not only that, it felt like I felt like you and Big perfected

feeding the streets and feeding the radio. Yeah, like at the same time you had who shot you that all the streets? You know what I'm saying. I gravitated towards that, but you're killing the radio? Like who was that? You?

Who developed a strategy of feed the streets? And you know it was it was more of a respect thing of of of I knew what he wanted to do and if we were going to have this like partnership on making music, and he was going to follow me down the road to making some of these bigger records, and you know, then I would follow him down the road to um, you know, making more the hardcore records. There's only one line that I had made him change or just record that he went too far for me.

You need this story. I think he talked about rape and Mary or something that, yeah it was and I just I just I just couldn't do it. And he respected dreams. No this is this is just a free style because that eventually came out though now I was kind of um like set that standard when he said when I was twelve, I went to help us nothing Jesus so all artists was trying to say something disrespectful

like still clever. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, but yea yeah yeah but that yeah, that was the only thing that we had started to have a discussion about certain responsibilities. He didn't really give a funk, but at the same time he was he was kind of a big one. Yeah, but he over the bridge that yeah, he said he whatever he said was like from from a standpoint of lyricism, it was yeah, it wasn't from this. It wasn't a

shock value like yeah, yeah value. Yeah. He seemed like on the first album that it felt like West Coast influenced him a lot, like that's the way I felt as a listening Yeah, really not at all. Yeah, because there were some samples that they sampled a lot of some of the West Coast records and some of the oh yeah, yeah, yeah. As far as me sampling, I was definitely in was by the chronic They're even ready

to Die that whole, So that was not him. Yeah, yeah, that was me that because I was I heard the chronic and I just really became obsessed with how they were able to make it sound like it was. Actually you actually got into a low ride in the comment. So I wanted ready to Die to feel like you was, you know, in Brooklyn and from New York and so you know, Dre definitely inspired me, you know on that one. Would you enjoy more producing? Oh? Yeah, that was that was the only one that we I mean, Cola was

on the Locks out. Of course that was gonna be our album, didn't you say? I want that Big win at y'all? Yeah, you'll see verse what you'll see the first it's actually the Locks first feature with Big We never met him, and I know what happened. Puff Winning told him some ship puff Winning. Y'all got these niggas from youngest, the dirty winning niggas. They're coming crazy, They're

coming for you. That he came crazy. He came from the first line nig's talking when ain't I don't know how crazy I can't go back and listen to what was coming. That was coming. He could have actually broke our smith. He could all wrong. He could have tail between the legs and kiss leg that. Let me just crib the situate. So y'all come to the lab like big people. If he was dope the ground, he was like he loved underground you ship. He was into him and Math that record, I can't. I don't know how

that came up with that. That record seems like they were going rad it like and and at that time, Meth was considered the best because he had the m A T H O. D man. He was cooking. He was cooking, he was he was ripping everything that was that that name was every everywhere, and that was going to be all famous him and old Dirty. I still can't say who won that. I still certain days like different styles too. I give it up. I say, was like, no, he got me. He said that j join he said

Jake got him book of Finance. I gotta disagree said that. I told he wasn't think he's bucking dog. See, I didn't understand j in the beginning. He was using all them big words and that school nine grade mon nigger I didn't know all that scientific or reflical and orlean. I understand that. I understand the color ship direct to the point and b I was more like a direct but bad? Now would it be? He bodied something going and Philly. He never had, Oh man come out and

sees events. He should have, he said, a man like somebody should have told him, no, a big not that it's still work. Still, I'm sorry, I'm still he killed him now that was hurt from getting big that we're going to speaking his defense. He's a lawyer, he's a way rapid and winning helped to a lawyer's biggest sue. You know, I'm just saying. I always was like music is still I'm sorry, I'm sorry like that. No, that

was some big they had. No he even destroyed Shock, but he's found but come on, destroyed Shock, he said Shock. You get it too. That that was the only record with him and nas on it. Hrsus was four shack shots versus that he said was for shocks shot, winning and broken. He couldn't say basketball politics, your dog, I can't. I can't say nothing that you got right. I was there with kids on that record called the Who World. He came back. He had a verse there we was going,

we was at the hotel. It wasn't Naas on that record as well. I don't know. I don't believe it's a virgin. The only version between Big and Nas only heard that when we did we went to Jack Cribb and and that ship is at the same time that they're talking about the same record, but no, the same time that they're talking and Big, what what record did Big guard Nas? Kicking the door? Kicking the door? What

was that line? Because Nas came back he said some ship, but it was he was like, he was like niggas Champagne last year. They wasn't champ Now said the line he said, he take the crown off the so called king and lock it down freestyle. He did it, Big people that and that was Big response to the the third verse to kicking the door. What did he say? Again, this goes out but those that choose to use disrespectful

views on the kingdom and why fun that way? Don't bleat now you were railing it, snatch that lightship, scaling it. Conscience of your nunsiense eight so more powdered and Johnson than Johnson. Vision legs never laxed. That is crazy. I used to have to catch you on this ship. I still catch you onto some ship now, Damn dog, I ain't know what that. I just had to ask Bigger what you mean by that? What's that? But that's where

that came from? I asked where that came from? He he played the free style was like Listen's even using big words. It's his flow, it's his delivery. And the way he said the words. Man, it was just so clear, cun of your nunsense. We had never laxed back big so wonderful love. It was a wonderful big, big fat black motherfucker must be antics. You just feel like big fat niggam. I think Punney was a very romantic. I'm just doing I used to see the nigga with roses

all the time, just no reason. What are you doing with my brother? Little speak? He did a little spik of looking at that like it was just cool. Yeah, so got a little awk with this. Dope was dope. It's good, it's good, it's good to get the akers sometimes was real. He was really big pimping dog. He

was up. Now, let's describe at that time, right, because at that time you're just getting the notice guy right and in according to the movie, it's like he gave bigger check and he gave Big all these promises, but he really had no accolades to match that as a whole. Like you know, I mean he worked up, but not for himself, but that he had something he had. He

had Joe. He didn't like what I'm saying that he was one was his first label, bad Boy, So yeah, but I was it was he was gonna make his career. So what made what do you think made y'all in general? When Big even trust this guy B I funk not think just be I just knew he knew what he was doing and he was he was he was devoted to b. I. That's something I couldn't say about He was you when it came to be I. He was straight up with Big. I mean, I can't knock that.

I can't take that away. It wouldn't be no B. I once phone the one for Pepe straight up. It's just a real ship ever and be our funk with him. And then the day we did you know, the end of the day, if he say it's cool, it's cool, who am I honestly up next man. You know, I consider this this person to be a pioneer and what it is, you know, for hip hop podcasting. He he definitely was someone that that I was checking out and

inspired by, you know. And who I'm speaking about is no other than Reggio say a K. Combat Jack, you know, who is definitely a legend hosting one of the original hip hop podcasts with the Combat Jack Show. His resume far proceeds a podcast world, as he was a successful lawyer and represent a sort of hip hops the legendary artists and producers such as Jay Z, Rockefeller Records, component Ori Aga, and more. It was an honor to have

interviewed Combat Jack on Drink Champs. I mean, to meet him, to talk to him, to interact with him, to hear the full episode. Checkout episode thirty two with Combat Jack and Jack Thriller was. It was a hilarious um episode. You just gotta check it out if you have and it's it's definitely one of our classics. But here's some great moments from that episode. The more careful you have to be with your words, so that a so I

learned this. I learned this listening from Tupac Biggie and Jack right when Tupac comms no not just listen to their music and Tupac talking about I caught five and this and that and just like embracing being a target, you know what I'm saying, and then passing away too soon, you know what I'm saying. Biggie's first album one of the most impactful albums of all time, Ready to Die, Ready to No No But but but I worked boy all.

I worked with a lot of the hit man I worked with with Puff Puff, The Home Now, Derek Angeletti, Ron Lawrence, don't get out of my power. But let's listen, leten listen. I realized as a hip hop fan, particularly with hip hop and the vibration that it strikes. We don't we don't take hip hop for joke. Hip Hop is real when you say, some ship's real. So if you say you're ready to die and you got a

million fans, that ship travels. But at the same time, and you noticed Nori when Jay was coming up, niggas didn't think Jay was gonna be that nigger, right am, I right? Wrong? But when Jay was like, I'm gonna be the richest motherfucker speaking in hippot. He became that.

So I learned the power of words. So my biggest um lesson and podcast is thinking, it's just me and my niggas in this studio talking ship, and and and and one day I did this rant with regard to Pat Hooo's okay and the and the ship went viral. And that ship surprised me because it was just a small part of our episode. What was you saying about bad poos? I was just I'm just saying something about bad like he wasn't good. I was just saying something

about I don't know what you're saying, drink. I just heard a record that I didn't have. No just I heard a record on No No it was my boot. That record my boot, And I was like, yo, this is not who got paid. So I went off like I was on Twitter, and some pappoose followers was like coming at me because I'm not gonna argue. I'm not gonna argue with you. I'm gonna address this on my show. So when I did, the ship went viral. And then when I realized that I crossed the line, it was

too late to take the words. What did you say? What did you say? Just just let's just google it, my nigga. I'm telling you google it, my nigga, because I'm moving forward, you know what I'm saying. So when I realized that I crossed the line with Papoose and I could never get you know what I'm saying, Like, I was like, Yo, you gotta watch what you say because even when we're joking, you could hurt somebody or you could create an enemy for life with your words.

And it was like, not that I'm afraid to say my honest truth, but I still got to realize and be responsible what I say about the other man, right because the thing about podcasts, it's kind of lives forever. These interviews don't die, so right now, everything that we said, that's that's that's the reason why I wanted to be clear and let you know that everything I ever said about you was just jokes and always. But I mean, you know that the difference is y'all in each other face.

So I have a whole different outlook on it. I feel like if you, like, I say a lot of crazy things that you do, and I say that everybody face, did I did I say something about like, for instance, you know, I hear an incident with two chains. Oh yeah, what happens to Yeah, you know, he said, he's gonna suck you up. He said, water Front Realty right where not that New York is not what public performance, it's publishing. So it's that's one. What's you said? I said? I said?

I said public performance publishing synchronization. So like whenever your ship is like the movie movie commercial video, but when they write a two chains wrap and the ship is a kid to bring up two chains guy. So when the lyrics are written that people buy people buy them people people, it's a dying breed for people buy print people by How does the ship choreographic? How can I play this whole? Oh? You mean writing the music, writing

the music and the lyrics. It's still public. The lyrics is considered like the music, like if you were to play I said four, that's four five record sales Breckord sales. But but but it's but but it's expanded right now because now is digital streaming stream So maybe it's at seven right now, I mean I'm at the authority, but um title, yeah, Apple Spotify, that's that's an extra six. So now let me ask you there might be a seventh.

You might be a seven six genius is print now I would say genius, But I just picked up I just give you all sick out of the music to make money off you music. So Jack, how old you Jack? I'm sorry, just but thirty self? Okay, young buck? Yeah, I got a old face. But so in your opinion to you're picking up a young you of yourself, you think streaming hurt the industry or streaming helped it? And

think it helped the industry? Man, because I like the fact that you it ain't no excuses if you can't make it right now, you know you don't even deserve to be in the game. I don't think that's true. I don't think that's agree with him. I mean I don't in a sense because before there was the you know, the gatekeepers in a sense if your gatekeepers, No, no, that's that's true. But the oversaturation makes it harder in a sense. What's balancing a way harder to to be hurt,

to be hurt byfend. I love music. I always love music. I'm not gonna listen to ship I don't right you might not eat even know the music that you would when I find you when I find. When I find it, you wouldn't know. Continue, but you wouldn't know because it's in the Ether's a million artists. Okay, so there's a million niggas that I won't listen to. But when I find a Anderson Park. When I said when I find, you don't find them. The people you're about to mention

are people are being promoted by high profile people. But I don't follow high profile too. To Motte, what did I accidentally pull into my ship? Because I'm still crazy digging, right, I'm still crazy digging digitally. So when I find some ship, I funk with fun with it, and it's the same ship. It doesn't matter if you've got something commercial promotion or if it's just straight up Internet promotion of my my friends saying something. So I saying something, you know what

I'm saying. If it's getting that there's getting out there because it's hot, I'm gonna tell you what the difference is. Why I think the difference is that back in the days, that's is horrible. That makes me. But back in the days, you needed to work and pay certain dudes to get in a studio, record on tape or whatever the funk digital wouldn't matter. DJ F and you you lived in the arrow. No, no, this is a great fall in that area. But but we're talking. I don't care. I

got fucking white hairs and that's cool. But listen, Jan, we've been we we in back to the future in real life. But we're but I'm giving, We're giving the comparison though, comparison. What do you think about young Thunk? I'm unsure about. I don't get That's what I was trying to talk about from there. No, no, no, I want to know what is it authentic to whatever he comes from that he's wearing what he's wearing like, I know the music is read as inonating for sure. The

music is resona check this out. I don't even when when A Drake and J Coole first came out at the same time, I didn't understand why Motherfucker's was sucking with Jacole because Drink had the better song and it was I forget what it was at the time he had, but it was a song he were like, let's be on honest. Yeah. Well, the difference is the audience has expanded. Difference. Yeah, you don't about to say so, Um, Jacole had who that who that who that? I thought that was some bullshit. Yeah,

I was like J Money had who that first? That's a Miami niggafy? Yo? Man, what then is up Jacole Niggle? Why then popper? You know what he said? He said, Hey, you need to find out why he's popping so you can get yourself popping right now. I believe that that's true because otherwise you don't to be your side fifty won't. I can't down young dog. I just I want to know where does that come from? Like story, what is

his story going on or something? If I'm at the bar, right, I'm buying a drink, Yeah, I'm looking at what's in the bar. I'm in the mood. And and and a young Plug record comes on and it's it's says a whole chain of events and you have no choice. Is music as opposed to like an artist? You know what I'm saying. There's that you understand when you hit that vein, you don't have to ask why it's like, Yo, listen because you know why. You know why. I like the

new generation. Okay, let me go, you guys go man, let me just listen because I gotta flate focus this is the reason why I'm with combat on this. That's my whole experience movement to Miami. Like I'm a hardcore boom bat hip hop left track, I get, I get divorce. I'm yeah, I'm doing it. I got no choice. I'm going It's not Club eleven, it's gold Rushing. It's gold rushing at the time. I'm going, so be loud. That's big up Micah, even though he don't no more stacks stacks.

So they got me coming out here. And and the thing is, I couldn't easily been that old New York nigger like, well you don't play cog Rat and why I don't gonna play? And I was and and let me, let me, let me just keep it up. Hunting Ecstacy was popping at that time, and so was I, and I felt every music in that motherfucker. I was like, what ship? This ship is hot, like this ning is like exactly, and I'm working with it. But it actually

made me young because I adapted to every environment. Then when I went back to New York, I would never forget this. I went back to New York, I went and the same music was playing, and my nigga said, why you smile, and I'm like, damn, man, my, yeah, mean, these records is popping, and these niggers just looked at me like, we don't funk with that over there, And I was like, damn. I merely knew I could be by coast from that very moment, because I really did

feel these records. But when I was in New York, I was really like, I understand why y'all don't feel it, because y'all ain't got palm, bitches, I mean palm. New York is the smallest market on the fucking planet. It's the smallest market, but still the most influence. We had the most influence that this year. This Now, this is the thing about New York. We've always had the most influence until our influence became the major influence and bring down.

Like when our ship became the stand it when fucking when fucking Dr Dre took public enemy and flipped it into n w A and expanded the market. You got you gotta say l A like the West Coast. The West Coast is a market of it of itself that flips into the South, that flips into up until up until Jersey. So when you look at the whole scheme of the music industry. New York is one city and it's the whole fucking New York also fucked up a lot of things because it was so it was organic.

But when when yes, when New York was too exclusive. But when I'm from I'm from the South region, what New York thought, nobody else can do it like us, that's when you fucked up. That's what I'm saying, because we only want And then what happened every other region. It got so big that people like d C and Jinja actually started. But DC is the South. D C is the sound, yeah, but in the South. But d C Niggas is k we described. I lived in d C. D is opposite d Niggas. That's East cos in my opinion,

they're New York Now that's East coast to Georgia. In I went to Georgetown, push, it stays from the East coast to me when I stayed from when I stayed in what I mean, but I love the South. We're on the East coast, and you know what I'm saying. You go to graphical so let me take let me say that. But that's where it goes wrong though. That's listen coming from an E P M D Run DMC, Big Daddy came rock him in environment and in the eighties living in Georgetown three, I went to Georgetown Law

for three years. I'm in d C. That's when he went to and the only nigga they're playing from New York is Kumo D Kumo D. I'm like, this is his country, you see his country. They're not fucking with the niggas that we funk with. They fun with country niggas. When they say that again in d C. In d C in the eighties, I'm with rock Cam, Big Daddy came EPMD. I go to I go to DC and the only rap nigga they're playing, it's Komo D. Who's

the only Who's the country is nigga out of New York. Yeah, when you say country is that sounds very I don't like it. Why do you say that? Why do you say because him South niggas and his two New York sounds? Why you don't like that? And let me tell you when I when I was coming up man Indicata and stuff, and a lot of New York niggers was coming down to you understand Grove, you know, and all schools and ship. Everybody thought they was smarter than that stuff. We thought

it was a game and ship. We're just having a Southern drawl. Don't get it confused. Just like you know what I'm saying, uh with Tony Nis ain't playing the South. We we beat New you up, niggas up. I'm not I'm not God. Two changes flipped on you. I agree with you, add what you you favored to change over? Men like I ain't got gooms to you already apologize. I can't go back. I can't say that. I ain't say that at all. I didn't say that we have to order some food. We made some hip hop. Can

we go to somebody? But that's even gonna be the game. Kids to be conversation going why you didn't got to get a bit of gamester and my opinion in my opinion, um because you know, you know what somebody told me. Somebody told me one day there was like you're a New York nigger that understood the South early. Yeah, super super thug was our was our was our beat? Was our realized they kind of jumping us, Jack, are you with me? Still? Listen? Listen? How are jumping You don't Listen, listen.

I know I'm right. Listen, right in your heart, you know I'm right. All right, Come the wind beneath your wings, speak to the mist podcast get here you. I don't know why I passed the blunt or who I passed it too, but it was a bad move. Listen, so listen. A lot of niggas told me that when I you know this super Doug, but a lot of people didn't. They said that, you know, I understood the understood the South. Think about who super thug. Yes, I'm popping him the South.

I'm getting to that. But what I'm saying is, at first nobody you knew who the fun These people were absolutely didn't know who this This is two years after the record is a hit, and then he produced for Mystical, and then they produced for Whole and then they actually claimed this is a South sound. But I already got two albums. I got n O R E, which nobody at this time. I brought him to every artist in

the world. It wasn'utntil old non. What you believe is the Melvin Flint, I'm not sure I could be bugging. And after that, every artist ran to the nigger. But what I'm saying is At first people could not identify where that sound came from. But afterwards people said that I was up early on on the South Sound. And that's great, that take that. But I always looked at Virginia as Virginia was at East coast state Virginia Maryland, Virginia for the more, the capital of the south of

the Confederacy. Yeah, but them niggas is them niggas is New York crazy East Coast in me, you don't agree, He looked at me, crazy, I'm just drunk right now. To me, South stars at South Coast. Like Pip Pipsie had had this argument. He said that people from Atlanta wasn't really people Atlanta because he said, y'all. Same time, it's on the East coast. Remember he said that Jersey nigg is the South to me, Oh, come on South. To me, that's your name. That's crazy. That's why New

York is sucking up like I'm bringing back there. But I'm green to that. But when you go to Jersey, the hip hop is so different. But let me tell you right real quick, a little I wouldn't say country though it's just a friend. I would saying my boys down here. My crew, we all united and a lot of them are from Jersey, and we always had this thing against the New York hats that were that were coming down to Miami because they were now always just

trying to like deepo their way in. And it was funny because the New Jersey with me and they got it because they were getting it like that you said right now, they wasn't feeling that, you know what I'm saying. Look, Jersey niggas was still two change. Got you funked up thinking about But let's not okay, okay, let's let me ask the fact that you're saying sound I feel like you might. Let me ask you. I'm ready for whatever that. Don't place value what I'm saying. Don't place value what

i'm saying because let combat talk combat. Don't place value what I'm saying, right, don't don't don't play good or bad. As a Brooklyn cat. Whenever we got into Jersey, it was different. And the further we got from Jersey, the more south became. So for me as a Brooklyn nigga, the minute you cross Jersey, you're going further south. That's all I'm saying. It's not out of disrespect. It's it's

out of it. But you don't think that mentality is what I got to say something I agree with nothing this nigga just said just now because because to me, you know, Philly was my number one market on steroids in my opinions, is different, No, but it was no. Philly niggas was just as grimy as the early Square Mall. That what I'm saying is it me, I'll be Square more downtown where you had to get your fronts and pull your gun out. What got them all for the

next level? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But what we're saying you got the next level. You remember that DJ quick record. Everybody's like Compton. I mean, I don't know if that's exact term, but that made sense. He was like, I'm a Compton dude. But when I went out of town, everybody's like, everybody's hard. Everybody's But at the same time, what I'm saying is this, What I'm saying is this

Berrow to Barrow, city to city niggas played different. Yes with that, So when you go to Philly, when you go to Philly, like these niggas look like Brooklyn niggas. These niggas look like New York niggas, but the wrong term, know what I'm saying. But then is different, So you gotta understand. And this is the beautiful thing about culture black white black, like just the d sport of black. When you go into a different culture, you gotta understand that,

ship expect that, and humble yourself. It's true. So New York niggas coming to feeling like this is New York, maybe we will lay you the funk down, right. You gotta respect when you go. Know. But but what I'm trying to say is for me, for me, for my experience. I could be wrong, but I came up ninety seven. I started going on the road from seven. I went from New York. I went from Camden, New Jersey. I went from Trenton. I went from uh skipped, I skipped

new Work. I'm going to the whole nunty five. I skipped Newark. Excuse me. I started in Nework. Then I went to camp. Then I went to Trenton, and then from there I went to Philly, phill it was my number one market. From Philly, I went to a Connecticut Uhlware, Delaware. I went to Maryland. I went to Bordom All I went to d C. D when you hit the DC never changed. I'm saying, there's always I'm saying, as the journey went through once with d C, Yeah, the market blossom. No,

the market was already blossom. But the only time I felt like I was like in a in a different market was when I went to South Carolina. And the only reason why I felt like that, it's because South Carolina and niggas was throwing chairs and other niggas in the crowd, and I thought that was the gangster ship in the world. I was like, oh ship, chairs, ain't buckle down, you know like in Apollo and sing like

that your chance is buckled down. And then when I went to South Carolina, said, these niggas as crazy as the motherfucker. And then I went to Durham and them niggas was crazy as the motherfucker. I went to Raleigh, them niggas as crazy as the motherfucker, Charleston everywhere. So all I've realized. I realized that we're all the same

fucking people. The South started and it was a little bit more crazy as far as like, you know, throwing kids and just getting that motherfucker's but I realized we're all the same. But um, you know, I always considered that part East Coast. Maybe I'm wrong. I don't mind, but it's going in the South. And once again, I'm not taking anything what you said because I'm because because you see niggas in New York turned up and like, that's a New York nigga, exactly when you get to Jersey,

niggas turned up differently. Yeah, but I still feel that, you know, it's it's it's one of my best friends and family, New York, New Jersey saying, I'm saying this family. But I used to look at him like he flipped like a New Jersey nigga. And then what I'm saying, did I see him flip with the New York nigga? I said, this Nigga's just yeah, that's the same ship to me. But I understand what he's saying because it's

ever get it. What I'm saying is this. What I'm saying is this, this is this is boiling the ship down, drinking this fucking vodka right now, and we're drinking Royal Elite. Make Fat Joe, no matter where you go, he had a block or a neighborhood or a city or town your trial. But when you see a trial from a different place, it's like I understand which which we're trying. It's a family, you know what I'm saying. You might do some ship to the left, I might do, but

with family, it's family. And then when you when you incorporate all the differences, that's when you can really appreciate family and you understand what I'm saying. You like that family respect how you do you respect? But at the end of the day, like together, live together at the end of the day. From the moment I came to Miami, he brought me to his store, and he knew for my music the type of person I asked. He didn't

have to test me. He knew from the type of person I so accordingly he made it right the way it is, and me and him been of friends forever. Because I'm trying to say one decade, because I'm trying to be young man. He just keeping he's keeping going. But what I'm trying to say is we get that. But the thing about it is everybody is that's the thing where me and him is still friends for twenty

years later because he gets that. It doesn't. We fight like brothers, no, like every day, almost every day, but we keep it moving. God, damn my god, bless you, God damn it. You don't even know what drink you got in your car. Yeah, Colombian white, that's bigger Colombian way. I'm sorry. I haven't been bigger Colombian white. Video were talking about Moss Petty. So as we're talking about Petty,

two changes really flipped on your dog. He was, but you said apologize to do not you cannot take it back. I'm listening. Watch is pretty nice set because I don't even think you about to go someway. I don't want to go, so I gotta cut you off. Y'all think when I cut people off that i'm cutting off. They know I'm cutting them all because I know where the story ends. That Watch is pretty nice. How are you doing? How do you know? I want to say something better,

say something positive. I want to say is I just wanted him to know that I'm a man, and I wouldn't know sucker, and I didn't want him to know that I'm a man, but I felt like I ain't sucker, and what you this came just be saying things about me. You know what I'm saying because I said I'm sorry to his face. No, I don't even accepted it wasn't on the except let something is on the internet. If you don't respond to it on the internet, then that can I say something to you that don't count? North

You got all jokes aside. No, this is all Joseph's side. I gave you that. L Listen, Listen, I'm gonna say you should apologize that. I'm gonna say saying me. Listen, I'm I'm twenty two, three years old. After defel band boy come out right and I my mom at uh, Philip Serena, it's bonn Uh. Vonner Brothers has show to Chains Circus. No, the Bonner Brothers. It's a it's a

hair show. And I go up to two Chains and dollar there there there Uh it was playing circle and I interviewed them and whatnot, and I'm I'm a fan of them, and I say, what was happening? First? And first, Uh, the first rap fi I've ever seen, first famous person I've seen. When I moved up. He was two Chains, but he was TV boy. I know who he is. I was a fan and when he said, what are he's saying about me? It hurts my feelings and I

didn't like it. And I ain't never been no sucker, even though I got one out, I thought, ever since I was five years old. But trying no no, no nori, ever since I was fat, trying to let niggas know I ain't no sucker. So if he game, he can get it. But if I said I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm gonna tell you this. I'm gonna tell you this, if anything't happened to me, if anything happened to me, am doing ain't We don't fighting. We don't fight. And I'm serious, you sniffer go to he look like real nick.

I'm just letting you know what it is. Yeah, come on, man, we about peace right here. That's not what I said. He I never sing at you, apologize and say because you said I said your dream chance army makes this sweet mother. I didn't know you niggas have real beat. It's for the culture man ship. Man, y'all don't know. We are here September nine and Club Drain September Timp hit him with the barbecue. You know what I'm saying. Combat Jack coming out he said coming out back. Let

he coming out. He gonna help us host the podcast. We're gonna control. They should be the lot ofator that now we're not making. That would be amazing. Yes, maybe a riff to help, Yeah, you know all that. And Jack try he's like sticky biggers. You don't wait, he thinks he cut them over it. Na, Na, I can't. I don't even know. I'm sorry, I ain't no comedia. I can't have this twice I had that last year. You ain't know what do you man? What I did? I don't even know if this is it's funny or not.

A few years back, we abruptly lost its legendary m C and his loss affected us not just as fans, but as a family. We considered Prodigy a brother of ours, I mean, especially Nori, who had just seen him not too long ago before he passed away, and we regretted that we could never you know, we never had him

on drink Champs. And to think, you know that Nori's journey, you know, a big part of that was helped through through through mob Deep and their legacy and what CNN did with l A l A and and all of that. So it really we felt that one. And and in these next few stories you'll hear from a fellow m C who was closest to Prodigy. It was his partner in rhyme, his producer, his friend. Here's having a mob deep um speaking on Prodigy. Yeah, so you know, y'all history is so crazy. So you were you and P

because P is originally from Long Island, y'all connected. Queen P is from originally from from what I know, he's from like Queen's and then his let sounds the best. Not only the liquor, but they provided the females because Having is here and he's a very special guest. He's a glassic guy and they gotta spat and kindle. They got a spot to Schwatson. I don't know to pronounced that that Yeah, sound like that sounds like orange but it is in Spanish. That and and Cutler Bay they

got the licker. So happy whenever you are best buy liquers, man, what's the Instagram best buy liquors? Right? Is that what it is at best Buy liquors? Man? Definitely looking now so have man? You know, um, so you said, y'all, yeah, yeah, he's from Wising from that friend from that front. And when I met with the police, the police, this is not that's not a false along. Oh they kept it moving, it wanted to stop. It was weird. It was weird.

It was weird. And we have we're not friend. Is the first time we haven't had police the second time that oh that wasn't here. We're not faking, We're not faking. That's what we had was when the police pulled at all all. So so you guys were wol age when you connected. When I first met Pa, y'all didn't say why y'all calling people? Come on and we don't know y're talking like families should. He was sure. But I met him when I was fifteen, right, I met him

in on this high school whatever whatever. He used to have maggiy on and it was blond. You know what I'm saying. He didn't have back in the day's Kami used to st he had the whole thing. He used to call him to go to the challenge but with me,

but he was, you know, he was the cool. Last look at what I'm saying that we connected and then so um when y'all met, was it instantly like yo, he told you he does music or like, how how was it initially first met, Like no, because we used to be Yeah, we used to be in the lunch room and they used to be freet Staling at the tables. He was one of them, is freet Staling, And I used to feast that blah blah blah blah. And then as soon as we met, it was like instant friends.

Like instant friends, like instant you know what I mean. And and he was rapping at the time on because I heard, um, you wrote his first round. I mean he used to. He used to have his own rhymes and stuff like that. But you know when we got a deal and stuff like that. You know, I used to write and whatever. He didn't need it, but he first round. Ready over here on listen, Man, you're gonna loosen. You gotta keep drinking. You do you want to drink? Amanda,

I look, I'm floss. Amanda is very pretty. She's on the podcast What Us. She's from Best Buy Liquors. You're trying to show off for you have, Yeah, we've never we never had this. We never had this best book at we're pulling all the stipe for you. Yeah, though, man, I love this show so listen, fathers, they just passed. How many? How many Bullstons you pay for in your life? How many it's not like you said, Boston's bush? How

many bush for my life? Keep it real? Keep I say like too, because like like to, like to, I've gotta disagree with you. I gotta say how many like I just I just Although we're dedicating this episode um to those that we've lost in no ways, this too to bring down the mood. Drink Champs was created in a in a in good spirit to to enjoy life and celebrate life. And we've shared some hilarious stories on Drink Champs, but these next ones are some of the best.

Check these out your backpack on if you Always Princess God to all of us as far as making music and art, music, creative coaches, finest broads ye and your first time meeting press when you first subscribed. Shout out to dj Q my wife, dj Q, I like, I like how you pick up your wife. God damn high fives, Hi five real ship. Let's make some noise for that l A right, she didn't stretch right and she she's a she's a world class famous DJ. And Prince got

to liking her DJ skills. She became a lection wife work with Prince. This is not starting out. This is not starting out good. I'm not gonna lie. I'm a jealous guy, Prince. You I listen, Prince, you gotta get the funk away. My wife is not doing your ma. I'm sorry, stop dold. No, she was DJ and his parties. You know what. And by this time when I met Prince, the first time met Prince was maybe a house of blues l a M. She was DJ. You know he did he float? Now, he didn't levitate to float. He didn't.

He had a secon back. Prince. Prince knew his hip hop when I first met him. You know what I'm saying, Like he knew, but he knew certain type of hip he knew like Common. He like like Common. I am. And it was like he likes certain things into something. He like hip hop, and he like hip hop that was a little bit more like organic. I was saying, Like he liked like Lauren Hill, you know, like Common, Like he really liked Common a lot, Like he's a

Common fan. He was saying, and and and Common is one of my favorite Common work with him at all. I don't know if common common might have worked. Prince. He like Erica, but I do a lot. You know what I'm saying, like Prince I met Yeah, I guess yeah. So when I met him, he said I like that. He said, like, I like that one. So you got hot thing? I was saying, I have, so will I am hot thing with him? Was on the hook and he liked he liked when I am a black eyed

peas and that type of ship. Um. I started just hanging out doing parties. You know my wife, My wife would do parties. Prince were shot up at the parties. He was just short, hold on, how does this happen? Does Prince the smoke come in when he really walks in the basketball like yeah, no, no, no, I'm starting the party. He walking the party. You know, I went to a party once in l A. What's that club

that's across the street from the Beverly Center. The club that's the name is Prince walked in the club ended in. Prince kept a bunch of us in the club and at gunpoint, no, not a good point, but he's Prince. He just did to look almost gun point and everybody stayed. He put out a little bible Wait, Prince, he's he's in Jehovah's witness. Wait, and Jehovah's witness. They get down like that, they bring bibles. He started having Bible studies.

You three, and morning was niggas drinking. There was no niggas there. It's only women and me because my wife DJ so I was the only nigga. And there was one other dude who was a boyfriend of one of the other girls. So it's Prince and me and this other dude. All right, don't pass that. This other niggas passing back to me. I got you this other dude, Prince. Prince was quoting, he's quoting the Bible, and this other dude trying to say something smart. And now this other

dude is he's not with Prince. No, okay, he just happened to be there. He tried to say something and Prince, I'll never forget this. Prince said, Listen, Um, I know you think that you're saying something to add onto the conversation, but you really you know what I'm saying. From what you're saying, I can tell you don't know what you're

talking about. So how about you just not participating? The Prince about the whipper Nigga asked, but I'm asking was He politely told him, you don't know the funk you're talking about. Did Prince have on hills? No, he did not. He did not. I've been. I've been several clubs and Princes had chuck keep his clothes, keep going on to sprint stories the club? Do you have been? The Zeni and I l A they used at the party called Zeni.

They used to happen. I have Big Zini before because Big z at two o'clock in the morning, the clubs and l A clothes all right, yes, and then and then the dude used to have this party called Zeni. We rented a warehouse. He used to rent the Muppet studios. Jim Henson, right, and need to know these types of people I live, come on party when I'm bad. I know. Yeah, I'm hanging out with big Big Bird with Ernie and Bart and Bird and Ship. You know what I'm saying.

But he's at these parties. But they used to bring the alcohol and they used to set up stay you just have go go dances and all the celebrities used to go, and all the basketball players and that's it. He's definitely. I was with l A prince called my wife and he said, wait, the party at and we said we had ZENI yeah, he said I'm coming. And this nigger just rolled up and told I had the privilege of telling to promote. I said, listen, I'm bringing Prince.

I got a Justin Biebers story. When you finish, I'm bringing prince. How the hell is just prince going together? Because Justin Biebers said that what Prince hain't the only nigger around? No, I didn't. I don't remember that. This great hate when to be cut us all. Like the Prince came into Clark right. The girl was dancing and he said, this party is great, but why is she

up there dancing with no clothes on? She was, he had clothes on, she things covered, But he said why She just said, they don't need to be that, you know, because this is Jehovah's Jehovah's witness, Prince. This is not the last dragon Prince, because this is not like, definitely not the Prince wild back in the days in the eighties, he was out of control. So I said, listen out. He asked me to introduce him to the party promoter. I introduce him, and he said. He explained to me.

He said, listen to girls. They bring business people by drinks. Prince and let me talk to her. You're trying to convert. Let me talk to her. Need to hear this, saying the girl. He talked to the girl. The girl didn't know who Prince was. Same young chick, young chick dance in the club. She might have heard the name Prince. She didn't know. She's gonna die at night. This is a long time ago. The story, the old story. She turned. He said. He said, how much are they paying you

to be in to dance with your clothes off? She said the number? He said, I'll pay you double to get down off that stage. Go home. Let's make the noise of it. Prints being a trick? Is that reverse pimper? Put your clothes on? Prince invented reverse pimping. She said, I'll take your money tonight, but what am I going to do tomorrow night? That's what this girl said to Prince. I want response. What was his? He said, I don't have no control for that. That's real that I got

to why your motherfucker? I'm not gonna calla verbat him sounds he did say that. Beyond that, he basically explained to her. He was like, listen, I'm giving you an opportunity to make a different decision in your life. I'm saying. I watched him explain to this girl and talk to the girl, and I knew from the way that she was talking to him that she didn't understand the legacy.

She didn't understand. She was just like, Okay, yeah, Prince had an album covered with like three bitches button neked on top of him, maybe some dudes and everybody thought he was gay. He wasn't ready for your princess. Princes God, Yeah, he stuck to his guns and he understood every artist. And me and Nori, the fact that we even here doing drink champs can we talking about about we understand that every artists got contradictions nature of being an artist.

It's true, Hirst One, the person that we revere is the most contradictory artists whatever, But we were That's part of being human, like you said, being because all human beings got contradictions. Artists are contradictions amplified because people pay more attention. You say, everybody got contradictions. Artists, we just we create out of our contradiction, right, But Prince was like Jesus man, listen, we tell you something I've never liked.

Billy Dee Williams transcended for me. Like, what I mean by that is like Billy Dee Williams, Eddie Murphy, Prince and Michael Jackson was people who were like, you know, I grew up in a different you know, a different time, were like that. He did, Billy d Williamson, that's a good nig with Michael Jackson and Prince, and they said, Billy d those were certain people. You know, those are certain people. Yeah, drink, I'm still going in the secondary.

That's a smooth din in my taste now. But you know, for those those those four individuals right there, those are the people who transcended life for me. There was the people that no, no, no, let's keep it over here. Yeah, let's keep it over here. So those are the people that transcend the life for me. What I mean by that is like, you know, as a black person growing up young in my life, I can't describe anybody else

here or anybody in my life. It was like, those are the people that said, you can't do this, you can't do that, and they did it, and I was just like I always looked at them. It was like, I ain't I ain't gotta be like them, but I respect that what I'm saying. And that's why when I met with people like for Real, it was easy for me to say, I don't want to stand you, and I don't really I don't really get where you're going at Your music is fucking ba. How did you meet?

That's how almost how I met for uh, we was in sound on sound studios. Everybody's to stake everybody suhould think Biggie was to be called at Daddy's house. Something happened at Daddy's house. I don't remember, but big rememborable moment. I'm good one. But another memorable one was when we was working on Murder music and we was in an Electric Lady right there on West ad for something like that. Yeah, yeah, you know, like then I had came back and one

of my homebies, like in Prince's out there. I was like, get the funk out of here, so he went and got hold on. You want to tell me you met Prince? Yes, yeah, I've never been in the vicinity of the snake words. Yeah, I never and that's how I feel about Michael Jackson. So anyway, so we're in the studio. One of my homeboys was like, yo, Princess out there. I was like, get the funk out of here. He was like, hell yeah, I'll bring that again. Mad cool. He fucking brought Prince

in the studio. Now I'm about this electric lady. Remember this is Jimmy Hendricks. Now I'm about this talk, I'm about this tour whatever. Prince is like this and he had he did he just know, he just had one on hills. So I was making so I was so I was making a beat and then I was like, holy shit, Prince like he just hung out at that point. Yeah, I was like, yo, is there anything I need to do to the beat? Because he's like hold on that. They got over the keyboard. He started swear to guard.

He was that cool yoh yes, and I'm gonna beat and then snoop, I'm doing the beat and this record came out. It came out. Record is this It's called shall Now Kill? Listen to it? Oh my god, Prince. They probably walked away and say, don't give me credit. How do you play the key? Then Nigga walked down, didn't even say bye. How about dad credit? He was like, because producers live the elless Like like producers live the

ellis life. Let's just keep it here. It's okay, no nosess life, right, I mean, because you guys not only get to make your own project, but you get to go out there like with with the Big We You wasn't there with Big Lady vocals? No, I wasn't there with Big Who was you there? Like the blown your

way to lad your vocal lad? They vote of your beats, Little Kim and Foxy mm to go no no, no y no. But I saw them east time, you know what I'm saying, Like when I was gonna go Foxy, I've seen and last, but definitely not least, we celebrate the life of the legendary Big Pun. There's a lot of you already know, Nori and Fat Joe's shirt a very special friendship with Pun, So it's only right that we share some of these Big Punch stories told in our very first episode of Drink Chance with Fat Joe,

you know. And then when he passed, My brother was number one, and I always maintained number two, So I always was cool being number two. So then when I started rapping and it's fat Joe and then I'll bring Pun in the game. And I realized that Pun is a hundred times better than me. I fell right into number two. I was like, yo, let's I'll hold it off for this thing. I ask you something that I always wondered. So you met Remy through Punt, Yes, sir, so so Punt had rem she is big puns artists.

Because I remember Pun, I remember Fun. I was so jealous. I was so jealous because it wasn't too many cruise where you had a nigger as nice at Pun, and then you had a bitch there was like the nicest bitch in the game. So he was like, yo, twin, I want you to hear this girl I signed. I'm like, all right, so I see if she had the level vests,

I can never forget that ship. And then she just went off for like ten minutes streets and that's what she was saying, I shoot the air bubble welt your sneakers and she was just going I was like, so jealous, man. I was sitting there like, oh my god, why my head was saying why I didn't find her? Why I didn find So then after she rocks punt hit muzeral twin. You know she your artist twin, Like you know, she signed to me, but we signed to you. He had a label. It was Terror Squad the whole time. But

he discovered He say, yo, he signed it. He discovered her. But he's like, was kind. But I'm just saying I want to say, thank God. And uh, you know what, you did a deal with her after passed. No, no, pe was alive. We just we did the deal with her. But while Palem was alive. You know. You know, Come'm saying, most loyal realist in the world. We don't just say that because he's dead because some nigga's dad piece of ship. You know, Palem was one of the most loyalist niggers

in the world. Most fun I mean, the way I say it is like, um, you know, I was the youngest kid in my house. You know what I'm saying. I never had a younger brother, So Palem was like the young brother I never had, and I was like the big brother he never had. And uh, immediately, you know what I'm saying, It's almost like a relationship. Um, you know, in order to make a marriage last. It's like you really got to sign it mentally and heart wise.

You gotta really say you no matter what happens, I want to stay with this woman for the rest of my life and cut your hands for the academic Come on, Joe, you're I'm just saying, let's not. It's just like y'all, nobody's stopping this ship, right, And it's the same thing with like you know, with with me and pun. You know, after I heard him round for the first time, he sat in my car and he immediately I don't know

how and why, but he was telling me ship. I wouldn't tell Nori now about myself, and that's my brother, Like I could go to war with Norri, like I would really kill for Nori, He'll kill for me. I would not tell him some person who ship in my family growing up and all that. So five minutes later, I'm riding with the nigga. This nig is telling me the deepest ship I ever heard of, and I'm sitting there with him. I'm thinking to myself, you know, I'm a street nigga. I'm like, why is this naked telling

me all this ship? Right? So I'm sitting in there like this, So I knew his life story. The first twenty minutes after I left them I met him, I already knew it, but let everybody asked you something because we were in and there like like like ta to right. Had jay Z's boy had brung me beyond that right and I had to joint bald equal And he said, Yo, she wants to do this recket. She wants to do it like Barbados and listen, check to check what I said.

But she wonted fifteen bands. I had a million dollar budget at the time. I said no, Right, I said no, I passed on that. Did you know the minute you met Puny that this was the next dude? Or was it instant or like, I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna be honest with you. Um, I know music probably more than anybody. It's just the truth. If this industry wasn't scared of me for being such a gangster there, I would be the president everything. Nobody really know more than me.

Every time they turned around and they give a nigga a new job, they I put it on blast. The minute they gave Joey president of the Scope, he picked the phone up, called me saying I learned everything from you, my brother. Please, you don't even understand everything. I know. It's because of you everything I like. Niggas get presidents and they studied you my whole life. You are the smartest nicking. But they're scared of me, so they won't give me that position. Don't know why because I'm the

nicest nick in the world. Right, So when I met pun and the niggas started rapping, So alright, the scene is I told her a million times. I don't want to tell ship on your ship that I told everybody. But but I'm gonna just saying because were family, so I go. You know, I was one of the only him being another one too, so I can't start on him. But I'm one of the only rappers that actually was rich, actually was gold already and were still in my hood.

Like I live in apartment five. Like literally, hold on, everybody better make noise for this. I am also from apartment five, So you know what's crazy? I studied hip hop. Jay Z was also from apartment five. What is that? What does that mean? We're we gotta break? He's from Miami? Now I know what literally what that means I'm saying, is there a hidden meaning behind no, we're gonna, You're gonna, You're not. You're gonna ask first. Let me also make

some noise for my brother Kake. You know Ray Kawon's brother. He once hold happy birthday, Happy birthdays. I don't see it. Okay, okay, excuse me. Somebody get that man to drink. Somebody get that man to drink. We ain't got no brown, We ain't got no brown. Okay, okay, I know you called me, and I'll tell you I had it, but nobody never gave me my sneakers, my purple you first, wait, hold on, we got it. He told me I'm gonna pick it up. Could I still get him on the gone. Let's let's

go straight. I'm glad you brought into hit. Are you the snaker king? Um? And if you are, you know I'm we're gonna end this on this, but part of the best Latina rapper ever lived. I'll tell you right the bottom real quick. When I when I heard when I heard him on Firewater, Firewater, that was me. It was mere God on the getting And okay, that's that's

the first put that on a mixtape, my Mixtapeia. Let me tell you know, nobody had ever heard anything I put on the mixtape here in Miami, and I was like, dude is fucking killing it. But I didn't know who he was. I just but then I knew. I knew he was Latina. I was like, we got one. That's it, you know, that's it because be just so you know. At that same time, Big is my favorite rapper, thinking in the Craze crew that's my brother to my other favorite rap was a member of two crews with two

of the greatest rappers the old times. That's that's That's where I'm like, this is it? Yeah, yeah, we got him, yea, I really it's just almost like Chin Chin angelsts him in Evangelists and then God, I know Putt was great. I didn't know he was the greatest until like after after his shriner. I remember me standing there and crying at the and God bless the dad. Flex flex Ts was the one who came and grabbed me because I didn't know what to do, Like I still started crying.

My mother came to the keeping Real without me. My mom said, my mom's didn't wait for me to come. Mother with man from the boat danger like crazy. It was so crazy because the people who came to that funeral. You know, it was like crazy, man. Like it was like people that from our community that never even talk to us. Was like, you know, they were so proud they were showing up and you was like, yo, that's

just my school teacher, you know. So I'm sitting there crying and I walked by my school teacher, come and grab me and like, yo, be strong. This is that like we touched so many niguas in the hood. It was crazy, but it was like that too. I never forget too. I was at one point, I was at point funeral and I was crying and uh, it was John Rule And I looked up and it was John Rule was there one deep too. He was like be strong, crack, don't worry, be strong. And that ship, that punch ship

was serious man. And this is what I remember Flex grabbing me and just was like no, he's not suffering no more. And the crazy Yet I've never seen Pun suffer like when Pun, I know we can we're going too much, but we're gonna stop it soon. But when Pun used to half sleep apnea, like when he used to go like this, I used to think Pun was playing with me, Like God bless me because you know. Now I know, but back then, I used to like damn my fucking stories, just boring people like Yo, we

would be talking like it was good. I'm like, ho, alright, let's just get Pun love Nori and Uh in a different way, in a special way. And the niggas used to hang out. They used to chill like we're still void, Joe. That's when Joe said, because Joe was always militant, like he's always he's to get money, dude, Like that's all he thinks about me and Pun. We wanted to have fun. We was younger. You know what I'm saying, Joe's olg. It's a fact because we used to be on the

road everything like and Punning smoked weed. He drank cards like you know what I mean, Like this like just started drinking, like really, like you just started legally drinking like that. So serious. He was like like every day like this, I'll tell my son this to us and listen, bro, we was born with nothing, my niked and if we get the opportunity to go get it, let's not stop, nigga, let's just go get it. And we can't make it.

We gotta go get this fucking money man, because all the times we dreamed about getting money, all the times all we wanted was money. Niggas wouldn't give us a fucking ice cream. You know, we're starving. We Nigga's got a chip in for four chicken wings and French fries. Now nigg is just throwing this money at us, Like what the fund is we supposed to do? Let's go get this fucking money. And and and and and that's that's that's that's what I'm about right now. I'm in

the car with my sun wrap. I'm in the car. One of my baked on him two minutes before I came here because he was like, yo, engineer, ain't really doing it right there. I'm like, nikking you fucking crazy, Like I'll be rapping in closets. We're gonna end it on this. Back in the days, you couldn't send the email. You have to run around with two tapes like this that she was like carrying a mitchet. Yeah it was Stow. I've never been to and this is my engineer right here.

Has it it sounds I produce something, my friend, but has I have never had a session with you unless I did four records. Keep it real. I'm gonna look away, so like I'm not giving you know, fine, am I lying these four? At least four? Because you know why it's not because but back then, spending fifteen hundred dollars on the lockout or three thousand dollars on the lockout, I had to do yo on this ship. I'm keeping

it real. Seeing then War Report album was done over two years, but it was only like five to seven sessions because we recalled it eight nine records. When we went in there and you know, tragedy put us on. He you had this wave, man, you your wave, it's like you know, special waves. But what it was, man, you could do whatever you wanted, nor nor you you're funny nigging. And then it's like it's like it was like maybe he was bugging out, but to us, it

was like flows. We never heard righting thing. Thing I'm thing is saying this ship, you know what that came from? What was the joint you did? Um? And we gotta gotta go with you. What was the joint you did? I think it was in the firm. You know this leaving, I'm leaving, I'm leaving. I can get the story of that and then we break out. But listen, it goes that is that one Mike h Nor we know this, we know that, yeah, because I'm leave. Yeah. And it was another one you did for NAS, right, was it

Nas or more Deep? It was blood Money, Blood Money, Money, the Money, the one when we did that during the Firm album. Um the Funnies Ship. I'm not gonna lie to you from the outside, and I don't know if you don't go ahead tell me you was like the illest nigger right there, like like right there when they snatched you up, because it was a big move for you and I. I had just shot nigger the projects too, and it was like and I kept hanging out there.

They it was like what this thing is from the left cracking left Brack left money minutes and I kept hanging out and I gotta I gotta give the love the Jungle. Jungle was the dude like Jungle was like, we're fucking want him, we want to shoot up you know what I mean. But what I'm saying is they recruited you and you was just like it was so ill. I was just like and you know, and you know from them my very first feature, my very first feature after that was the Punt the record, my very first

feature after that, I mean put in punt Um. You know, Punt's first words he ever said to me? What he said? He said because I was it was in a session, the first this is the first words you ever said to me. This is the first words you ever said to me. You said, y'all cnn, huh. He woke this unique studio, unique studios, thinking walks and the punt wasn't He goes, y'all seeing there? Huh. I'm like, you said,

which one of your niggas got shot? And then Palm raised his hand and then y'all start keep hearing gunshot rooms and ship. I was like, this is very awkward home shows and ship. Then and then he goes, which one of yours Puerto Weekend? And I raised my hand and this is this is one hundred said facts. I was just like, because I've never met these nis, I love this nigga, but I don't want em to think I'm a sucker. He just walked in my studios. Actually Blue told you to walk over right. Buck Wild is

doing the beat. Maybe we buck Wild and then Plank goes to me. He goes, yo, you bought the weekend and I go, yeah, he goes, so wipe the ice crilled off ba ba because we're gonna be friends. And from that moment, you know, the nigga made me laugh. I was racist from that moment and it was some of the ask people I have a mat man, Joe. I really appreciate you. You've never left me. You know,

you've always been there for me. Is his birthday? Happy birthday, brother, but Ray Kwan the chef before you leave Top three friends again on behalf of myself and Nori. Thank you for listening to this Memorial Day episode of Drink Champs. We hope you enjoyed reliving these moments with us. Stay tuned as we'll be releasing new episodes weekly until then, Keep those drinks on ice, rest those delivers, and get

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