Episode 149 w/ Young Dolph

he wouldn't? Sits your boy in O R? What up is dj e F and his drink has motherfucking Happy Hour make? And when it comes to new artists, I don't think he's new because he's been here ten years and plu um. When it comes to relentless hustle, I've seen this young man come out people you know, trying to block his blessings. He stay out there, he hustled. He's for real independent, like for real independent, got all his own ship, out here hustling doing what he gotta do.

People trying to block his blessings. He's out here hustling, being lentless, claiming the King of Memphis, claiming that his stork. He's out here doing what he gotta do, like he doesn't gotta do. People are offering them money twenty two, god damn million, and he turned it down. I wouldn't need to know why right now. That's Lord and Drake Apple. Give Drake twenty he got over twenty two. We need to know why. And the man that lets you know

that the man is a serious businessman. In case you don't know what is going on, young doughters in the building now. Now I read somewhere that you actually actually was born in Chicago. How did you go from Chicago? Because that's two different totally mentality, So don't get live in chi Cargo. I was born in Chicago, but my grandma came and got me from Chicago and I was probably like two years o. So like when I were two years old, that's when I went to men And

what's the difference. Have you ever went back to Chicago and like like visited all the time. Okay, still still got family out there south Side. Yeah, that's a weird. That's a weird combination to Chicago. Really didn't like the same thing because Chicago just is it bigger. That's all right, right now, you it's m J and um m J and a born m J day for Memphis. Right, So how how was that? Because I had to be like the first rappers that come from Memphis, right, that had

to be the Yeah, so how was it? How was it seeing them come up for Memphis? Oh? They legend, you know what I'm saying. So, like it's just it's just big, you know, like a G three six mafia, you know what I mean, Like like they set the tone for a whole lot of ways in the in the game, like right now, like even when you think and when you think of the sounds and the songs and the way they're hot right now, it's like it's a whole lot of three six mathia in the d NA.

Very true. That's very true. That's very true. So let's wab to a person like who's never been it, has never been to the town. Squab to them how how they would see when you're going when you go to your town? Oh, it's fun, you know what I I mean? Like to me, like like like if you got family, do you know you're down over with the right people, Like it's fun, you know what I'm saying, Like if you don't and you just down there, you know what I mean. You just got to know how to move around,

you know what I mean? And I ain't gonna lie. Man, he walked in here like old school thunked out entertainment. It was like nine hundreds of y'all like that. That's how you to roll. Back in the day, I remember sitting trouble O signs to roll. I ain't gonna lie when I saw that, because that's that's a hip hop to me, Like when the person coming and they just when they won deep or something like that, it's like, all right, cool, like I'd like to see I see

you crawled up like you see people. Yeah, that's so dope because you know what I'm saying, that's that's a that's something that hip hop. You gotta keep continue because they you don't even have to help. You don't have to like give up person money. And they see in your your grind, they see in your hustle, and they got grinding, they got hustled. They're gonna alder mac and start hustling anybody. That's some aspect. The good ones didn't

want to want your crewel they're gonna staw hustling. So when I see that when I see certain people, like when I see meet Mall and I see you and you roll with the entourage and you got I see your boys looking at you and concerned. I like that ship like you know what I'm saying because I come from that, You know what I mean? And that so let's make some noise that once you once a game? So so so what who was what was your like when you first started rapping? What was what was it you?

Was it? Was it to get out of the hood or was it because this is something you like it to do? Oh little? You know what I mean? Were

like it was just the opportunity. And I know I was a husting what I mean from the get go, from the start, but I just knew I was a super house in my head, super husting, you know what I'm saying that, Like I just love music, you know what I'm saying, Like first Bound, it just and just something I wanted to do and I said, I want to do what So like if I'm decided to do it, like I gotta master, I gotta do it big. You you visualize yourself back then where you at now you

knew exactly goddamn makes you get a lot. I ain't got I never envisaged myself as a successful Like being honest with you women to ta, I feel like one stop at one point you think you did after one Paul still selling crack. I don't know. I was still selling cracking, but I soon had an album of that Ship was Gonna Gold and I was out on the something crack like. It wasn't what I came to crazyhood. You're still something crack, oh for shall but I look like it. Look at the picture, I look like I was.

I didn't make a dollar or for music at first my first album, Like I mean, I had made five times, but I didn't make a dollar off of music, So I didn't visualize that, Um I would you know, be twenty years in the game. So you're saying to you, you're saying from the beginning, like from you not even having a dollar, from one dollar and rap, you knew that you was gonna be in Yeah, because I just knew it, Like I just had that. I was just

determined to do it. Couldn't understop me. So it was like, yeah, I knew I was gonna live. Here was the artist that you looked up to before you came in and he was like, this is like fired you. This is the way you want to go, Like the league. Yeah, Like I really I all love them from from from the gul Chid to master P to Babe and the whole cash Money era three six Mafia, like like all of you know what I'm saying, like all living with like motivation to me. You know what I'm saying, what's

your relationship with Gucci? Man? That's my boy? Okay? You know what I mean? Like add of the whole industry, Like you know, you gotta co the people that you like. You're like, I'll just my boy, you know what I'm saying, Like you ain't got too many people like the industry and you keep it in there like it's the industry. Like you work, you do your thing, get your money, and I'm keep your ditches, you know what I'm saying. But like like that's my partner. You seem like you're

not affected by the industry. Like most people come into this industry, they make some money, they start, you know, hanging out. Huh, you can't be there. How to wash you, to suck you up? You can suck you up, you gotta yeah, you can be you can be super successful just like you. Just you just gotta know how to move, you know what I mean. Like, brother, you ain't got your home in talent like you, a leader dollar like you anything like you got right all right now, I've

seen you on Instagram. I believe it. Use you pulled out a piece of paper. You said, you ask your fans. I believe should you do it? Did you two? Man? What what kind of units are you're moving? I did, damn it? Did they opened you that? I'm proud of your brother who was that? Like I appreciated person about it. But it was a label deal, you know what I'm saying, label deal or like a PMD, like a like at type of day exactly, I'm saying it was a label deal.

You know what I mean. It really was a good deal, No man, super good deal. Tell the truth. But it's just I see something else, you know what I'm saying, Like I got something else on my man, what I want to do, you know what I mean. Like, but at the same time, like, it wasn't no wrong decision. Whether I did it or I didn't do it, I ain't no wrong decision because I know what I'm doing. What I mean, Like I'm focused, like I gotta plan for this ship and how important because it is it

about ownership. It's always about owner ship, because you know what I mean, Like the game different though, it's just like you just said when you like when you dropped and he was gonna go and he was doing this, doing that, It's like it's different now, you know what

I mean. Like nowadays, it's more like your fans got more, they got more access to the artists, Like you got more accent to the fans, and like you can do ship, like you can spend your money like you can't, like you can master the game dotter business part of the dog and really like keep people out of your business as much as long as you want to until you want to. That's that's probably the illest thing about this new generation is that you guys are claiming ownership. Like

that's what jay Z was fighting for. That's what all the all of the artists back then was fighting for because we had to run to Atlantic excuse me, we had to run to a depth jam. Right now, you can go with Empire, it with Gazi. Gazi let you own your stuff and he'll put up a couple of dollars marketing and you go out to you shout out techno, he was doing that technology. Definitely, definitely pick him up.

But but but it wasn't a part of you that just say, you know what, let me take this motherfucking money, get the funk out of I started too, but I didn't become and like, money ain't no problem, and it ain't no issue. It ain't nothing but the paper at the same time, ain't number the paper that you find as a gross anyway with over the next eighteen and twenty four months. So it's like me, I'm just made different on why I'm why a little different from everybody else.

You know what I'm saying. I want to wait and chill and let them a couple of months, go back still on all of my ship and get their money. Like oh, of course of time. You know what I mean. I ain't gonna get ready to go blow the whole dug anyway, you see what I'm saying. So they're like, yeah, I'm gonna wait now. I man, I'm gonna get that money plus some mode and keep all of my ship on everything. Damn, I'm a different type of nigger. I would have took that money. I would have been in

Take Eat Nigga like you're doing some other ship. But your first mixtape was hosted by DJ Screen right now, that's a DJ from my land. I correct, How did how did you make that connection? Oh? Showing to Alano, And I would like on Finnegrad to do it, to put together real tape, you know what I mean. Went, I got beat from everybody, all the hard producers. Yeah, I got a feature from to Train, features from a bottom j G got them, got druma board to produce

some beachs. I just put together a hard as project. And I would like on Ftegrad to get myself a real shot and really see what this shipping to do. And this ship was like an instant, like what I mean, Like I pressed up like the first order with twenty thousand, gave all the CDs, way pressed up another twenty thousand, gave all the TVs away. Hell yeah, I'm like that was just my whole scratching. My whole thing was just making get myself super hot, super fast, you know what

I'm saying. So like share, I pull up and my coupe I got damn selves giving away my own ship. So all of my boys know how did seriously, I am. They like ship and they see me doing this ship like so they just seriously I am, you know what I mean. So I think that's why that ship went like that, because you gotta artists keep glock to right now. Yeah, you're gonna take him the independent rout as well. It's like, what if he wants to side a depth jack, what

would you say? Really at the end of the day, like the glock going always being more controlled over his ship, like he it ain't all about what I want, you know what I'm saying, Like you pay attention to like I treat block ship like a little bit more like teender them more closely and carefully that I treat my own ship, you know what I'm saying, Like like I'm getting them on like like like like instantly, instantly a hot, super hot fast, you know what I'm saying. So we're

like ship just to keep it one hunting. I don't need on. He ain't gonna need him, you know what I mean? Like block danger you know rapper, he paying attention to looking and seeing everything I'm doing, and I'm teaching them that we go. So it's like he's gonna be able to do the same thing, get his paper and make decisions like this. Want to be super beneficial, not just the the make the decision that's beneficial for today, you know what I mean, Like the motherfucking team, you're

a beneficial decision. It's very smart, man, I'm not gonna lie. It's very smart. You're very, very very mature. A lot of weeds. So we've got some champagne for you. They told me, you know what a big drinking we've got. Well, I don't know if you know. On this show, you know, uh, we celebrate our artist's life. You know what I'm saying. So many people want to pick a person up after they die and saying how much do we want to tell you we love you when you're in your face?

You understand I'm saying, Um, there's so many shows that they don't do that, and this is what we are. So we celebrating your like your career. This is it's a more way and you can just take a sip

of you and we all celebrating this. So so m I read somewhere that both of your parents were like drugs, Like my father was dealt with something like that, and so how do you overcome something like that, leaving everything, keep living, and ship gonna come to you like you ain't got no choice, you know what I'm saying, Like this ship gonna come to you like you even run from real life, or you standing there and eat that ship up, fight this ship, run this ship over and

keep going, right, you know what I'm saying that? Like, Shoot, I jumped in the street earlier, you know what I mean. Once I jumped in the screen, all this ship hit me, Like damn, you ain't jest them. Everybody jump in the screens, get sucked up. Don't nobody leaves itself, or don't nobody leave on top, right, you know what I mean. So there was just some person of ship I had to take with him myself. I gotta forgive. And that's the only Mom and Dad I got. You feel that something

happened to him, got down. Then it's gonna be like, oh, man, doing all this hustling and hard ass maneuvering out here for ship, right, you know what I mean? Alright, a lot of thing to do the ship for the Besomn. I do that ship for my motherfucker, Like, oh God, I do this ship for my folks, Jail, I do the ship with my family on every track. But now it seemed like it seems like you rock solid man. You know what I'm saying. I think that's our first

time meeting. I think I'm like probably been passing, but I've always heard just rock solid ship about you. You know what I'm saying, Like you ain't about to playing around bullshit, and you've got your people with you, and that's very important because people lose their mind and eventually you will lose yours to just it's gonna happen. Trust me.

You're gonna slip at one time, trust me. And it's cool to have your friends next to you though, and tell you, yo, you know what you bugged out that day. You gotta have good friends. You got to, man, you can't just have them, yes me, and around you're gonna lose yourself, especially this ship right here. That how you Go, Hollywood? We were just talking about that ship. Then How you Go? Hollywood? You don't even know it? Yeah? Yeah, no, that that that be that'd be the ship. When when when when

I get in the crazy thing? I've been in this game twenty twenty years, So I see a dude come and they come and they'd be bigheaded, and you know, they got the latest petite protection and they got everything, and then all of us suing m that second single drop.

And then now now that you now the humble themself, and then and then the thing about the industry is when you're on top, when you're on top, you gotta be humble because the same people you shoot all why you're on top, you're gonna you're gonna see him on the way down. So it's all, but it's always good to be a humble dude, anyway, It's always good. Like I don't get me wrong, I don't think I'm the ship,

but I'm just I'm just I'm just humble. So I can keep these relationships for this amount of time, you know what I'm saying. So how is the relationship working with Gazi Empire? There? My boy, My boy, I've been doing distribution for guys for like the lads three years or something like that, you know what I mean. So it like we do good being this together. What I mean,

Like we're a good one too. So it's like we got we gotta his shirt to make describe what we said, guys, he walked with my goddamn as you said it mas saw the dude. So so just crowd up, um, because you're just that distribution, right. A lot of people who you know, listen to this show, they're just fans of a culture they don't really know. So it's described to a person who's listening to this listening to you, and you're saying because you're independent, but distribution, so they could

be understanding. Yeah, they're important to the importance. Like there's like it's super important, you know what I mean. You're like when you walk when you're in the mall, you walk pad chimps, so you walk past foot locker when you see them Jordan's that you see the doin right there in the firm and show Young gotta go looking for you know what I mean? New Earth for the one dropped the right there in the window. They right there, The new Lebrons dropped the right there, the new Katie

dropped the right there, you know what I mean? Like their distribution like super important. It's about the place right being everywhere for sale, right, everything for sale and you and it's still your product. Oh yeah, it's still still I don't talk about God, damn, so I don't talk about God. That so um, you just did you give me y'all Keith clock goddamn Mercedes bends up. Yeah, that was something like that. After what he's doing now later

one of me, Now he just dropped that. He just dropped another of mix tall you like two months ago, three months ago, he's going crazy. Now you got a McLaren Aviane trop and he got some most ship going on, Like goddamn baby, like that ship. Wasn't it easy for me to come up? You know what I mean? But it's like that's the reason why I stayed away from all of them bullshit had one to three ft million

dollar deal over them course of years. You know what I'm saying, because of like the young ship wasn't important to me. Paper Rot was important to me. Now like look what's going on. You know what I'm saying, Like that's why I sacrifice the ship. But nigga like key glock to come and got down turn dirt into da. I can look at your face and I can see how happy you are when you when you said that, Like I can see the sincerity I can see, And

that's what we gotta keep pushing man, our culture. We gotta keep pushing for for we don't only got to be the only rich nigger in the crew. If tener Bucks is rich and we all buy the bottles, then we look great. But if it's just me buying the bottles, then it's just it's it's kind of it's horrible at the end of the day. And so we got to put other people in the position so other people will take care of the bill at Taco sack. You know what I'm saying, Yeah, you gotta have other niggas take it.

Shacko shocking Mr Childs and motherfucking Prime one twelve. You know, I don't want to be the only going on my car nigga. Damn it, I take heat. Motherfucker's keep glocking easy, Niggasias will say, the Lamorghini trucks out here. You gotta relax, you know, look at that. This direction I want is to wake up. What I'm saying, no, but that's a beautiful man. That's beautiful man. So what's the next for you? Man?

You're gonna get into acting. What you're gonna do? I stay focused, you know what I'm saying, to do everything to come my way and master it and kill it. You know what I'm saying, Like everything to come with it. Okay, everything to come with it. You know what I'm saying. I'm talking about Okay, Okay, you you got a girl. You got a girl about to ask you? Guy, he smashing. I gotta relax. I relax. Okay. I can imagine. I could imagine being and how how does how does it

feel to be famous? Though, like you know what I'm saying, I'm gonna keep going to running like the ship. I really don't be thinking about the ship, you know what I'm saying. And it's like my partner, that's what we classed it a lot of times, you know what I'm saying, Like my boys and my partner's my brother and ship because like I still do ship moving around. Don't give

a damn myself and all that ship. Like, bro, you can't just like this by yourself and doing this and doing it and know what I'm saying, like you can't do I know, if you want to do this ship brother, use it. But like it's different, you know what I'm saying, Like that's how I got shot in California, you know I mean, like by my damn self walking up to walking up to the hotel in the hotel you know

what I'm saying. So like I'm bouying myself. I'm going in, they coming out, they six seven deep, you know what I mean. So it's like, so this is all. Wasn't what I'm saying. It's random. It's a periodic, like it was some random ship like out that. But it's just the point, you know what I'm saying that, like you shouldn't been You can't. You can't move around like how you usually move around. You know what I'm saying that, Like you know what I mean? Was it because you

had jewelry on all? Because a lot of times I walk around by myself and no jewry on, and I'm like, I'm cool. But when I'm walking around with jewlry on by myself, I know I gotta kick to five with me. Bom just okay, yeah, you know what. Um, I'm sorry you don't. I just sad, negative said, I'm so sorry. I sorry, I'm back to I'm being back to the creek,

my bad. I can't even know what I'm saying that, but yeah, please Donna be dope by your dog, keep keep keeping one, keep wanting crazy nigger what you you know what I mean? Now? Good road? Just yell out their head, just left out the car. They ain't got something like brod get something to them, like them stay right here. They're like, when we're gonna sit here, I'm like, y'all go on here. I'm like, y'all go ahead, they go next, don't get something to eat. I'm the trunch smoking.

I'm like, don't go here right quick. And then she just it's just some coincidence, that ship. I mean, but like I said, I can't blame nobody with myself. So you know how that she had to start moving different after that, of course, yeah, but it's like it's really not too much different. Cluse I've been doing this ship. Just everybody should up. It's a lot of life. It was at the time you came out like two o'clock at the hospital and you had to shoot in the gym.

That was hard. That it was hard, said this is the new part. This nigger came out and you don't talk about you. He said, I'm back and take tomorrow. I think it was record is crazy, you know what I'm talking about, right kind. I looked at this said this thing it's invincible. I'm I'm gonna be honest. I seemed that I said that it was hard than you guys. Whoever edited that, they did a great job. He put out to joint I remember, I remember was like a Gucci shirt or something. Yeah, he had a ship in

the sling. He looked like he know, it looks like it's like scar Face. It was tupocket Scarface that together and look at I said, and I got it. And then he said and then he said, he said, he said mix tape or something something dropping the mall And I said, I know these niggas is downloading everything, Like was so markets Like I would have never thought of that, Like that was so genius, Like whoever thought of that?

Y'all think it's just thinking, my dude, world up and you even filmed yourself in the hospital, right, He'll that was really my dude, like that they were just coming up out. That's the advantage of these young you know what I'm saying, because they could actually like imagine if you know, Pun could have you know, you know what I'm saying, Like when he went to the fat farm and just lost that hundred pounds, if he could have

filmed that ship, Like yeah, it's been crazy. When you mean you get it, you get it, you get it, you get you made, you made like a tragedy into fucking I'm I actually heard the story and I want to know if this is true, and shout out to Richard our production team. He actually he told me this story. He said, some kids had a coffee shop of FAMR music and they got fired. Hell yeah, oh yeah, and then you were doing a roller out of namies and I had him on stage and then you broke him

off with some bread. Hell you tell the story. That was a story. It was just crazy, brother cousin. There was at Duke University. There was the Blue Devils. It was on campus at a coffee shop. You know what I mean. The head got fired, which two people got fired from the stove. They're just playing them. They were

playing get paid, you know what I'm saying. And so it's just like when I heard about it, I just felt like she they got fired playing my ship, and like I got to see about my I got the funk with right, said, do do open North Carolina the Blue Devils. So we're flew in the rolling out, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, in Miami flewing the rolling out. Did you let me enjoy theirself. You know what I'm saying, Like gave him some red, you know what I mean? Like, how many people was it too?

That's the two people that got spot. Yeah, you gave him like ten bas a piece. Yeah, that's it's the new version of Martin Luther. Man. Let's just store it out there, man, man, let's do the ship duty out here. He said, I'm saving his friends, you know what I mean, the matters out here doing the righteous ship. Rem got to start some moving that people. Gotta start some a little bit more that. Oh, I ain't gonna lie. Your

voice is way too based on your ship. You just wanna take a break real quick and shout he sneak in. Cool boom, take a break real quick. He's miked up your shot. He read, come ahead, baby over you move the chair. Okay, yeah, cool, we're gonna get shot. He reading here. Okay, no't just bring him in here. Come on, come on, come on, shot here. We're gonna make you dofres celebrated tonight. What's going on? Yeah, we're gonna make

yelled off tonight. Baby celebrate you brother on. Okay, alright, alright, what's going on? That good shirt on? He got the best shirt on the part of my brother. You have the best shirt on in the building my brother. Ye. So all right, cool, okay, all right, cool, Yeah, we're ready. You're good. Yeah, to be like doing another little intro, just go straight into it yet okay, yes, okay, INTROI

it cool, you're ready. You're gonna have to say, you gonna be like and all your friend henna be like shot, okay, just alright, cool, I got it, just introduced. He's here. Yeah, now oh yea. We gotta open bottle of rose right here, baby, if you want that, If you want some, are rocky old that we got some bomb Bay we got we got Haitian bear as well. Yeah, he takes some of the rose. We're good. Are we looking good? Roll? Roll? Roll? Yeah, so you look we're back boy, And are you broke?

Getting Shahim We because we wanted reinforcements to make sure the real journalists God damn it, big up Ramon Deuce as well. This those my brothers were drunk facts. You're real facts. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So the pink shirt memo to oh ship, damn, I've almost pink right, a little almost pink ros that's you know what I mean? Um, but your first show, you opened up for old Ja the Juice Back? Is that true? And then you have to pay the opening opening Hell yeah, I know some

ship like they was throwing a party. They was throwing the show, and I knew it was gonna be crazy, and this is he was right there was they were throwing a part. I knew we were gonna be crazy. And the promoters they like, you know what I'm saying, Like I wouldn't know. I just started rapping. So I was like, I just had to put myself in a position like where I got the perform ain't no giving

them an option to let me perform. I'm like, man, let me get y'all three down, dollarge and maybe you know what I'm saying, like, let me open norking And it was in your sister. Yeah, okay, that's the smart thing they're doing. Yeah, it's a lot of new cats right now. You paid it. Get on some of these tals. You know, you know, you know I never knew that, you know, I never I never knew that when I went on tour, these artists that was opening up for me, like it took me ten years to catch on. I

thought they were just good artists. And I wouldn't just realize that the artists never traveled with us. It would only be like the local person from that town. So like you go to Kansas, could be somebody open up in Kansas and you're sitting there and you're talking to him. You had no idea that they were charging them. The tricks of the trade from the past is that people were paying for to be on these tours and these fans on nois the headline is Coas Side and that exactly.

That's that's what I can buy into it. But this worked out for you though. This worked for because not to cut you off. We got some people like that was smart, like like Easy Eve. He was promoting his shows and he was having an you ain't open you know for somebody actus that he was just actually promoting branding when you've been doing his own concerts artist. Yeah, Luke's doing the same thing. In mind, I'm not going on the front. I was thought you're gonna win the

Dolphin chain, but you got on the smirt chain. That's it's not a smirk, that's that's the that's a most especially smirt f I seen in my life. I just saying what is what what smurf is that paper around Frank, paper around Frank Frank. Oh okay, that's a that's a different Okay, So listen you you you came in the game like damn there, like rocket Feller, like you had bread before coming in the game. Because average Niken paying three thousands of perform I had to. I just had

a vision. I just knew what I wanted. I didn't pay three thousands and go get on any stage. What I'm saying it was a certain particular night in particular artists, and like a certain shop was trying to do. You know what I'm saying that, Like it's like it's like a food with money, you know what I'm saying. You know what? You know what you're saying that. You know how that go? You know what I mean. But it's like our Jewish man calling jewice man. This one it

was a Jewish man in gooch Man world. You're I know the whole way that So it's like the first time ever first make a song like that, I need to open up. And my whole thing was really just bullshit. But at the same time, like I really want to see what it's gonna do to you know what I'm saying, Like, and I'm come to find out I was on or something, right, you know what I'm saying. That's beautiful man. I mean

how many shows did you do before? Like really click and I just see the out behind you hard body, Like how many? You know? It's times you have to open up people, just like really like I I opened up. I did that jews Man. I did on two. It was too kind opened up. I opened up. I opened up with jews Man. Then I did I threw another one. I threw a all. I threw a part of myself.

I had really through a part of myself. Then after that, like all this ship document it's on the end of that matter of fact, it's called Young Dolphead Level two. You know what I'm saying, Like a matter of fact, I had a show I like him, man, canna go down. I heard the texts and went to text and she wanted to go brount me a buzz down jail for the show. Flew back to Memphis like it just I just had a point to prove, like they was my whole man friend, Like I got a point to prove.

I ain't got the co sounder men fish like I'm buying myself. I got a point to prove what I'm saying. So it's like I took every every opportunity to every shot like it was my first like like like like like like no, what what the what? What? This ship is like your first? I made every impression my first

impressure that had to every chance. Know what I'm saying, like make that ship like my first impressure you know what I mean, Like kill and make a person pressures, you gotta kill it every chance you get, right, I just wander. It was cities, man. Yeah, first time I went to Memphis project hack, who wants sushi? Memphis? That's that's a little press, project college, fresh out of jail, right, I'm doing this stuff. That's when he had chicken hands. Yeah,

and I was doing this story. I think for the source to swin magazines actually had money and who is to make some noise for one they used to have money. God dammit, because they broke your ship down. Magazines gave your hip down. Godamnit. Continue I'm sorry. So and go to Memphis and project. He might have been out of jail maybe like two days, and he's like, yeo, let's go get sunning East something. I'm about to get the down on soul food or whatever. Yo, we gotta throw sushi.

I'm like sushi right, everything can go to the spot. And he or this the illiest thing on the minute. He give us like four rows of ill. Ill Ill, Damn, I don't eat ill. I don't you know we can say what you eat because White Castle is let your man right. Yeah, that's sounds like, can't I can't beat out from the project that I gotta eat this still know the ill. It's the motion of names and ship. It's my favorite thing. I'm getting down when I vote all the ship gets a little bit of ill source.

That's that's busted to us to get ill. So the first time at uh Memphis um El's birthday, m m so, I was out there. Everybody was dressed like Elvis. I didn't, but I was like, yeah, what does it is the street this? I'm on that street. I'm like, yo, the old word. Everybody was just like, that's that's so now because hip hop. I mean, that was Elvi's land at first. So didn't you say, uh Boulevard? Now it was you

that that How does it feel? Because the thing about it was you guys are like kind of making it like a woo tang thing. You know what I'm saying, Like everybody from there, Like, how does it feel that a lot of people from your city is popping out? Because remember A Ball and m j G did it? It was just them, there was no there had nobody else. But now you gotta bunch your artists. Does it feel good or it feels like let me stay in my

lane in my my business. It's gonna always feel good to your home team, like like when but you know what I'm saying, So it's like like like that's a plus signing. Ain't gonna do nob to keep opening the door for new artists like men. He's got a lot of those ship like you hear that ship all in d N. They are all of the popping music that's on the radio right now. Now. Now, if you was to see it like the young artists coming up and you was drying aside them, how would you take take it?

If he didn't want to side, if he wanted to do the same thing that you wanted to do, how would you take that? The most important thing is really understanding somebody of vision. I'm saying, really what is it that they really want to do and what they're trying to get out of you know what I mean? It's like me coming up. I remember a lot of it, Like not just major labels was trying to send me, but major artists with the labels was trying to send

you know what. The artists know what I'm saying, and like it took them a minute to figure out, Like went Dawn, that's what Doll doing. That's right now. He ain't trying to do that. You know what I'm saying. Do you have a meeting with Rock Nation? Didn't Rock Nations trying to sign you as well? It was I was talking to some people from Nell Block that was a while ago. That was alone, that was a while ago. So what happens if h in the Scope or Apple Music comes and says, we were telling you to name

your price. We're telling you to name your price, who make terms, They're telling you to make it good. You're still you still wake up the price, right, I would say again, So if the label comes to you right now, whether it be Apple Music or just you know, one of the biggest, anything can get done. You know what I'm saying, Like anything can get done. But it's like I'm just gonna have to feel super comfortable about the staff, the people who aren't working with and then understanding my

vision most import of all. Right, when you work your records, do you do you outside sources or you use your own staff? Both? Okay? Okay, team Yeah, yeah, I'm trying. I gotta, I gotta. I gotta record bumps trout with God right now. I wanted to be honest. I gotta finish it up. I gotta finish it up. Man votes on Empire, right, I probably had the first New York nigger that was on the Gazie. I put him on the bat Yo. I feel like I was the first Thigg that was on that album. I'm sorry, I gotta

claim you got it right? Great, great fucking guy, Man, great guy. So how does it feel like me? I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm a I'm a street nigger, right, I'm a hustler. I still can't be in the room like the Reward Show. I still feel claustophobic just coming from there, like I just went there and I still

can't get used to that ship. I've been in this game twenty years, but still can't like you know what I mean, Like, just walk a red carpet and feel good, like what I'm saying, Like I walk a red and they'd be like shot like nigga, I don't as yeah, but still it's just like you know what that is money. I'm gonna just be honest. I feel the fakest in the world because not all my friends are this. There's some niggas and I don't funk with and they's something niggas.

I gotta be just as fake as them. But it's because I have to say, is all that's my biggest problem that sh I's still about. I've never got over my biggest You gotta be. You gotta be a little fake to be in the building like you gotta because there's certain niggas that you can't be. Like, I don't funk with you, I genuinely don't. You just don't know

him like that. It's a little bit of bit of both, a little bit of both, because it's it's certain people that just say the right things man like they I mean, and that's it's the wrong thing, you know what I mean? You know what's going on? Man? How you been in all this? And I don't really care you ask me how I've been, because I know you don't really give a funk how I've been. I just know you know I ain't broke, and that's good enough, you feel me

because most most of them, they don't really care. They just this one. Hey, what's something is fake? And the thing about it is I have to be cord you as well. So I got to sit there and say all right, cool, you know yeah, and I didn't. I don't wind up saying some fake ship back, like, man, how you been? Like I don't can't. I can't. You know, I'm sorry, but that I can't. I'm never like twenty years of this ship, I can't. I can't get used to that ship. I can't get used to being somebody

that I'm really not like. I can't used to like there's certain people that you know funk with you and they give you the energy. The energy will never lie, you know what I'm saying. And when I go to these award shows, that's oh no, no, that's why I was asking you. I was as it's that ship where am I sucking out? I hit that I don't know you did. You can't. You can't get used to that ship. I want to ask you, like fun everywhere I went

to the awards shows, the actually get changed. It was we uhould have big change just to hit the niggas with it. It wasn't you want to try that, You wantn't try to shine you see niggas a big change. These are big change, your pungent literally taking shut off and just hit niggas. I told him, I said, nigger, you're gonna go. You're gonna get sued for real. But hey, I'm sorry, I ain't know what I'm saying. That was. That was just like they could really pop off, like

I remember. But when the saucel was they had the riot, they had to like canceled the taping, were teping no judgment to bet today, but they would serve at apple juice at the ball. My brother was serious and sprite zero. Like to think about it, My dude, God blessed them because I get it. They don't want niggas drunk. I'll get it, but we gotta have it. We got to

enjoy ourselves. Like you know, you look at these awards and they'd be having drinks and cocktails and this this was like the stiffest ship ever, like big up the bet by the way. But I just didn't have a good time at all. I like, I like me eat, I like what they're doing. It away, it's the event. It's just I feel like I was just well into a spider web, like you know what I'm saying. Like they literally I was like, yo Homi looked at me. It was it was no shodow name. Come on, you

have shard name. I hate Shardo name. By the way, do you have shar Niggas drink something? They ain't. They ain't think like you smoke for the girl to drink. Ain't got nothing. They ain't got nothing. And you know me, I'm walking through to to to critique something and I'm like, jeezus, the weis Papa Cheese. This is why I don't go to awards though, you know what I mean. But I was wondering if you got used to that so you like me? You like that ship? Is that it is

out of your league? I just super fake. I just do that ship just because, like you know, I mean, keep your business, you know what I mean, It's part of the job. Is there anybody who has a front around you? And they came back and they tried to make it right, a couple of people. Okay, you don't want to blow them up if you can't because no one listens to us. You know, you got to worry about that. I can't do it. I don't want to do it because like I ain't nobody in my position

right now, you know. I mean, like I'm super winning right now. Bro. And it's like I read you keep it in like that. They know I know, and they're like, I'm gonna let them, let the ship eat them up the inside. So you know what I mean, what's the best thing, um, the music industry have gave you so far? They put me in a position where I can put other people in position if they really want to be in a position to make some money that and change

their lives. I've been in a position like just straight up to I'm straight, I'm good, I'm this, I'm dead. But it ain't no feeling like being able to like change somebody or life out and you know you're in a position to do that. I mean, all the person you gotta do is listen, I love that. I love that. That's hard. That's all. What's one thing that you did or it was a part of that you felt like you could have did better, or you would do over a lot of the only things like that, like from

the parents, I regret, wish I can do. I wish I would have went to my prom. Back into the figure that we went to high school. You're talking about talking about junior, about high school. Yeah, I was in jail, Jim. I was asking, Yeah, two but high school you went to you you like Jamaica nigger, So you went to like fifty high school right now, Jackson, I'm went to an Orgast morning for two years. Oh they shoot people there, that's right. You made somebody out like my freshman Yeah, yeah, yeah,

they shot They shoot a lot of people. There was a shooter split. You know. My mother she wanted us to move the VA because she thought it would be safe. And I saw more cold everything in Virginia. That's where you know niggers were getting the guns. From what I'm saying, who was going she did didn't know. She took me to the plub. I saw more violence people. I was in school with the nigga. Two days later he got you. Thirty years from murder where he killed the Piece of

delivery Man, the Piece of the living man. Undercover cop because they got none in the same cooperation. So you know, dad news everybody seen that same doctor you right bad Nikol said he wish you were the kid went to his prom you. By the way, this is this is Mr Leo g le This is kind of good. He finally got some good weed. I'm gonna be honest. You've been striking out long time, gonna be I'm gonna be honest. Man, I'm sorry talking about bring up your crack. Who's who's

your partner? Um in paper route because all my young young boys from from my hood they like they like him because they say, you both got fanoms. You both got like you know, the big nasty what's his name again? Yea, yea Danny y'all, yeah, my fan partner. It's like the pound. Oh he's got what's up? So how did job start? Um start? People, bro man a freestyling in the car, riding around doing what we do. Doing what we do is just just turned through this, pulling off, counting up,

freestyling back and forth out win he win. Let's go get something to eat and let's go shopping. Roll up with blunt freestyle again like you know what I mean? Like the hair started like I was just the youngest out of all my partners. It was me him and like a six moments of the partners and all of a sudden, all them niggas just started telling me to wrap. But you need to wrap. You know what I'm saying

that you need to wrap, You need to wrap. I had lost a whole lot of money, like in like two weeks, like back to back, like she just happened, lumped someone and you know the lump someone lost like bron you could you could have spent that ship in. I didn't do this ship. But what's what's when is the very moment you believe it's wrap? Kick can happen? Like what was like a sign like like you do something out and what was it that I'm gonna keep on hunt? What made me feel like? What made me

know that I can do this ship? Well? Maybe like I don't think to wrap, I don't do this ship. One of my partners from my hood he called me. He was like I'm feeling ready to go pull up on boots and smoked some weed with boosting like boosty what sudd sudden? Such short? Yeah this a little boosto before you even went to jail for all that. You know what I'm saying. He's like, I couldn't go out of the boost it sudn such with go though we

get the room like boosting like he wanted us. You know what I'm saying, Like this is partner, like my boy. He got down the batting rouge. He got family down there, so he fun with on like boosted, just showing it there. He was like, nig. When I first started coming down here, I was getting like fifteen hunters or something like now I'm getting fifteen down like they don't get that new banding. When I get back to baton roug. It's something of the day. I was like where we left, I'm gonna pilot.

I told my pint at like bumping started rapping right? How long? What was that that she was a long time ago? Down that she was? I don't even know? That was before he went to the gym? All right? Yeah? And you made it? Man, You ever look at it? You ever look at the mirror and be like, man, I did it? Oh, I do this show all the time. Better at what I'm saying that a lot of I just see't you take out? She didn't be like damn and like I said, I want to do the ship.

I knew I was gonna do the ship, but still I really came leve on doing this ship. You know what I'm saying. Cool, it's like, Bro, you just did with defection, scratch it out of the lest Bro. Like, ain't nobody in them in history of done this ship and what I'm doing. You know what I'm saying, Like, ain't nobody never got all the way to the point where I'm and not never saying one deal with nobody. You know, I want to hear. So I'm turning out when nobody not one deal, no nothing, no nothing, nobody

and y'all and your nigga got all blue teeth. That is hard. Hold on, let's make some money for the blue for Master Smurf. Nick. I don't even know you could do ship like that. I don't even know that's we got damn it. Okay, but he said, yeah, you're doing Roger Turing, I can't believe how smart he is, Like, because you know a lot of us, a lot of people think this thing we just heard niggas. I wish I want people to a lot of the hood niggas ship. It's like I'm super up to keep on hunted like

this ship and uncounter. It's like that ship kound of took money from you to at the same time, but being to U yeah, oh yeah, it keep a lot of story. They keep a lot of bullshit. Hands to my name. Yeah, come be for the rest of your career, bro. So like you know you're making a lot of money.

Like when you're making a lot of money, you know all the doors that open up and all the extra ships you supposed to be doing a getting it just like when you got a lot of negative that a lot of bullshit at tends to your name, and like that ship didn't running the money out? Trust what type of hurting that though? Man? Like you know you being able to secure the wins financially. But you know the city that you go off so much and see that you go to, man like you know what's documented definitely

has so many financials. I'm one of the cities with these amount of jobs. I remember I was going to Mentor back in the days, was in the dirty rolls all of that back in the day. I remember on the Protects ship had no dogs on it. While this was back in the day, obviously you know it's still

like one of the post cities. So what type of you have on yourself having It's like when you're from that motherfucker and you're in a situation like me, and you're in a position like me, it's just something you just got to deal with, you know what I'm saying, Because and like whether you know it or not, but it's people depending on you like a motherfucker, and they

ain't gonna tell you. And like a lot of them don't even realize they're depending on you, and they ain't gonna tell you that they're depending on you, you know what I'm saying. So it's like it's like in the same examble, like when you get somebody that's in a good position, it's like you're like, oh, you take care of your mom and daddy, you don't take care of me. Like,

ain't nobody to obligated to do nothing. You ain't got to take care of your mom and dad, or look out for your brother or your sister, or take care of kids, or pay all a bill this and there. You ain't got to do that ship for nobody. You ain't obligated to do it. But it's certain people to just like me, it's just like the ship just in me. I just feel like they're just some ship that I got to do. And that's why I always get blessed like a hundred times, you know what I'm saying, because

it's some ship. I don't think about it, just like you're gonna fly getting your facts you do that ship, you don't think you know what I'm saying, Like it's just an automatic thing. You just drew who's the person in your circle? And your family be like down a little bit man hed too much money away, hold on what you mean? You know, like nobody saying you getting back to a lot of people getting back to get

back to pieces you might need it. You have anybody in your shoulder really to tell you the truth, though they be it'd be more like my sisters and my auntie and ship like that, you know what I'm saying, because it's like they know I am with them, you know what I mean. And the whole thing with them is like they like, well, you've been doing this ship so long, like since she was sixteen, and ship like that like just taking career or their responsibilities, you know

what I'm saying. And but lead max umple for the other you know, what I'm saying, like my little brothers and cousins and nieces like niece's nephews and now that ship. So like the like they get it at the same time they don't get it, but they do get it. It's like I guess they just overtake them. Yeah, so you know what I'm saying, They just be like, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't say the word you can't. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. You can't, you can't. You

can't do everything for everybody. You know what I'm saying, Like that'd be their whole thing. But man, other than assistance, make sure that you man, I'm not talking about like my whole team, you know what I'm saying, Like like my whole team, and especially like ship, like my my girl, my mom and my dad and like a little like my family, like we're super close, like my cousins and ship, like they like my brothers. You know what I'm saying, Like all my cousins, they like my brother We grew

up together. You know what I'm saying, that just stuck together. You know what I mean, Like even my second cousin, like not even the ones is just first couling, like say, like my brothers, not even my potners. You're like, daddy're the one we were just talking about, you know what I mean, like we all every day, you know what I'm saying, Like for a show every day, Like I can say you can, I can Dad that bitch you you know what I'm saying. But me and Capa like

that all the time. That could really be an argument, but it don't be an ugament. But I know what you're saying. I know what you mean. You're gonna say it's the army because you know that how everybody will looks at it. But to you and your nigga though, it's like it's just yea. You know what I'm saying. You were talking about you earlier. Man, what does she think about? I mean that I got on Instagram? Man, you know a lot of rappers and get A mean

that it's negative. You know, like what you find dogs you gotta mean it's like him this girl and kids and they say looking dog. He had such a beautiful black family. Did you see that? It just does deserve all dress come three one two three and now know you are here livings like you know you got your living all life. Oh, that's dope. It's dope. That is dope. You gotta be careful then if you gotta be all here with a beautiful family, you're doing the right thing.

They're gonna come for you, man, they've been coming from this ship. Ain't by ship man. Yeah, they're gonna come. But that's dope, man, ship black man. Oh, I don't even know how that ship even got out there like that. They got a little bit. You let my girl on, she on like on this ship and the border industry or or no, he's like, I got one in the middle of got dope. God damn it, man, I just I'll wait, like you know what I'm saying, Like it took out she with and she's been with. Damn it. Man,

we are all the way proud of you, my brother. Goddamnit, we all hate proud of you. Got damn black glass. Got kind of got a little maybe happening something, man, because you know you know what this ship, I like, I know this is a woman in here. But there's a T shirt going around that says black men don't cheat. And I think that people should keep rocking that T shirt. Got damnit keep rocking that t shirt. The black men don't tea old on hold on hold only. We got

one over. Yeah, black men don't cheat. God damn it. You got you gotta keep rocking that motherfucking T shirt. We gotta that's true. We got a bigger bas species. Don't cheat. Know what I'm saying? Like, man, Yeah, for real, for real, for real black women. God damnit, she got off with got damn shi got cool. We're gonna drink some of this motherfucking champagne, y'all. Motherfucker's off in the building. Man, God damn it. Man, are you having fun though? I

having fun with this shot? I can't lie. Okay, I having super fun? Okay. What's the funnest part of hip hop? See you? The funnest part of this ship is traveling and just having fun doing this ship with your partners of your team, like the folks that you funk when you deal with on day to day basic you know what I'm saying, And like ship, you got niggas. It's doing something that they like to do, something that ain't shipped for them to do, and they enjoy doing it

and leave my life like that ship. I love this ship. What you like more? Performing or actually making the rackets to perform what's what? What what you get off more? Damn that's a hard decision, right then you can tell them how hardest you know? Or do you like to deal with the business side of it? Because yeah we got like this, yeah yeah, because you know some people like that. How people like the policy a gun? Some

people like it like it then like fifty. But I would probably say making this ship because it's like art. You know what I'm saying, Like this ship is like art. It's like a pain. Like you started off like it's nothing like like yeah, you know what I mean, like you rounds without the beat. I learned that for being the jail. I used to write rhynds with nob and I used to just want to see what that's how

I started. I started all right, I started all right with it and like as I did my first city that well from the doubt where I started not right and I felt like right, yeah, I just going in and just wrapped and come out with the people up. Pain. Definitely that smart like y'all think, because that don't write. It's great to think about it. This ship ain't number but you and like you don't like you don't like

what you said. I'll take that off, punch me in right here, and do this right like this ship ain't this ship is ship ain't always to eight team. See, I'm forty one years old. I'm gonna be honest with you, forty one And the reason why I can't write without righting is because remember we used to perform on that. I sound like a fucking old fucking the eighth of the two inch row. So the thing was you couldn't punch in and you couldn't punch in, so I had

to write the super Tug. You know, Supertuck was recording one take? What what what? What? That sup was recorded one take? That that that regular got one take, because that's how I was used to recording from the war report, you know what I'm saying. So I'm sorry that ship is just drinking. No, I was so much ship. Yeah. I didn't drink. I didn't drink. I just started. In fact, I didn't drink in my in my first album. I

self don't even drink like that. I sound crack because when you sell crack, you can't be y'all side drinking, you know what I'm saying, So I stop hard. I stopped selling crack and then that's when I started drinking. But remember I told you my person Mom was still something crack like until it was my solo album. And then I realized said what you would get suthing unto dollars from these people. I didn't know that. I thought, you know, I thought I was just giving the way

ship because ship was different back then. See, the thing is, you gotta identified with your parts. Right now, you could drop something and the dude for motherfucking Brooklyn is gonna say, yo, Mom, dude, put them on my I love that. You know, we didn't have that back then, you know what I'm saying. Sorry to sound like the whole nigga, but I'm just

giving you just game. So back then, like I remember, I remember going, I remember having to go to London for people from London to hair your ship like we couldn't. We didn't have email, you know, we didn't have that. You know right now that is so beautiful. You can drop an album tonight and motherfucker's in Japan will be bang into it at the same time. A motherfucking Dade County is bang into it at the same time. It doesn't matter what time frame. So I enjoyed this, this

new generation. I think that you guys should uh continue to take advantage of it. Because Leo Colo said something on on the part out here the same show one time. He said, this is the best time to be in the music industry because you can do even do whatever. And the big cause used to be, you know, the marketing and the c d s and all that. He said that doesn't exist. You could throw out, throw off something it doesn't work, Who gets the fun? Make another one to throw it out? And I said it wholly

woldy throughout the moment. And you guys can take it for advantage of that direct And so you are you are to joining yourself. You are living the okay, okay, have you have you have you been a member of the Soho house yet we got this is a private club with just niggas with money and ship. Right, you become a member and then you start to learn how to like, you know, drink and drink like there's a

little pinky out. It's okay, but you gotta become a member of so hard just to keep your mind saying, okay, I got this looking at me like what the fun? What we need? More things. Even see Jamie Fox playing. Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's it's a weird. It's a weird friends, I don't know. I don't remember my brother, to be honest, I'm just saying, it's a great thing. When you next time you go to l A, go to Miami, you go. It's a great thing and you just you be around people,

just Brad and just see people. It's good to be It's good. Yeah, you know what the dude told me. He said, it's good to be the brokenst guy in the room. Like you want to be the brokest person in the room because you want to be around all the mother folcus. Just money for sure. When you on up, if we you gotta be around Nick's richer than you. How I came up? H m hm, so you came through? What does your your ultimate goal? Like if this is your perfect life? You know that person be like yo

in a perfect life and the perfect world? What is what? What? What? What? What? What? What? Would your perfect world? Feed? Right now? Do everything I'm doing right now, like time ten and still like having a platinum and gold singles, you know what I mean? Like geek the numbers up a little bit more half platinum and gold album sign more artists to do the same thing platinum and go artists. Yeah, we never had

to do a deal. You still don't want to do a deal with you just you just want to keep yourself. You gonna keep your ship good. I respect that. I don't know. He said, this always set up up for me to do it, So ship, it's already work that way. How did you How did you lead up a olt Genesis? That's my boy. Okay, Oh, he's sent me that song. Cut it. I seen the right bad to him, all right, you know what I'm saying. Like I funk with him.

He got good energy, hard. I funk with him. Music you made to happen, no plot all the way we're supposed to make some noise to that. I still ain't got my plan. I still ain't got my platue. He conglomerate. Conglomerate. Got to make sure you get my engineer. Man, everybody man's need their plaques. Man, I'm gonna be honest, man, you need the platform shot. You got some beautiful damn plan. Cut it. Platum? Oh yeah, yeah, Platum. What's your favorite studio session you ever add to this day or at

least one of your favorite with the artists. It doesn't matter what your favorite whatever. I don't know that hard or studio session in l A always be fun. We have fun to night. I gave you blocked it up when I first got blocked the bins got them all, I don't know, be different ones. And I mean expecially around that time, like when you find it no and you're done and got the findal track listing going over all of the song that you're gonna get ready to

put out on the album. It's just a viving studio. H She's the West Papa Cheese. You gotta chell, what's your favorite? What has that? Yeah? You know what? Like because I knew because no one knew who real was. But I don't want to say it like I'm a genius, but I knew who he was when no one knew who he was? Like did that does it make sense? Like? You know, I knew he was gonna be who he was to this day. I looked at this nigg he said, he's weird. That's dope as a hood nigger. You know.

I had like, you know, this is baggy gene era. So I had like size fucking forty nine. You know what I'm saying. I had that and he had on size twelve, and I said, this is gonna work. Perfect was the exact obviosite of me. I said this is gonna work. You know what I mean. But a lot of people didn't. I put from real to everybody that during that time. You know, people told me his close was to to people like I was bringing for Roll like like like you have. I don't want to describe

it like that. Let me let me because someone went were to my mind, let me not say that. But so I was bringing for Wall like yo, this is the nettest guy. People were like like they were waiting for him to leave the room. And people were like, come on, lor come Onlory, and kid, you're not It took him. One took him. It took him a while. I'm not gonna lie. I'm funked up. One time. I'm calling yea. He waited for me two hours outside the studio session in the l A. This is before it

was anybody. And I forget wonder who else from Rocket Fellers, Like yoh, he's gonna play you some ship. And I waited out there and I was just like the homie, I had thirty niggas with me because you know, l A was getting well at this time, and finally well the session. He said, I got all this heat for y'all and you can maybe you wait and he duck. He said, you see, I like you man, because he dumped to me at least as he said it, and we made it wait for two hours and we did

not make anything. He played that night. I'm not gonna lie to you. That's so I don't gotta call y B. I'm sorry. I never told the story before. Definitely I told the story off the record. But it's a dope It's a dope story so Eastern because some time, na I ain't gonna lie he was he was. I caught him on the off night. I caught him on the off night, like you know when you you know what I mean, like nigga out there. Wait, you want to show a nigga respect, you want to show Yeah, No,

I ain't gonna lie. Something came out something now he was fighting himself at the time, like you know what I mean, Like this is before I don't think nobody um from Rocket Feller border beat from him at the top like Swiss when I bought a beat from Swiss. Sorry um no one from Rough Riders at board the beat like I was the first thiger like wide beat Swiss, that's played Man from TV the whole knife from b oh yeah, everybody needs the site phone. Oh no, I'm

getta check cut down. Then I'm just coming to show love. And I was like, no, I did Man from TV. I thought that's oh no, I came and then I know I had this man right here to the right to me, and you know what, I got the funk about it there. I said, they ain't had no alcohol I had. I spoke to a couple of people I ain't really like, and you know, I smiled in front of them and I said, I'm getting foot of the luck about ahead. I'm gonna go to my zone. Has to be in my world. When I'm in my world,

I'm king of my world. And sometimes it's just cool for that, Like sometimes you don't have to interact with other people's worlds. Sometimes I just feel like that, like, oh, you're gonna see the people that just followed nobody on Instagram, like they're the most amazing as crazy as people sometimes gotta follow other people see them on other people where I was saying, your own motherfucker's on and that's what

motherfuckering like to do. So I'll share the world with someone here and there, but then I get the funk up out of that. How do you feel about that? Following nobody on Instagram because you don't want to know why I got this blue ship going on? Everybody looked like they got the same moment that everybody got on the same thing, saying Jerry Saint pieces same everything, you know what I mean? Like I got all that ship and I spend too much more on all that ship,

Nash blue everything. So you got the gray Wood cards on? I can see those. I forgot. I heard that going on. You know, I'm a card here, nigger. I know what's going on this thing. I got the gray Woods on. I'm trying to debate who who had the l cards him on forty had the red. Would you remember those? Okay, Oh that's a fact. That's a fact. That's a fact. So, um, I see you. You designed it out a lot. Is

that is that your wave? Like I've just been on this ship since I was young, like like when I used to about nineth grade tenth grade ship, like that, like's not always catched the grayhound Chicago, go shopping, come back to men, just to go to school, just to killing know what I'm saying, like just to go shopping. I just always been on this ship. Now, Oh, you know, did Kanye try to offer you a magma hat? Kanye try to get your make America great? I don't, man,

would you would you if Kanye give your beat? Right now? He said, I'm gonna get your a magna hat? Man? You know, I never know what I meant? What was this? Does you taking life? But that I get cane a paper roup trying and tell him get life together? Now? Now drink chance. We don't we don't get political. Yeah, now that my boy shot the clan the hand, get what the heck? Right? Like I couldn't shot a whole video with on the snoop man. I can't shoot it. I can't. I can't wear that hat yea, yep, that

ship too. But how does it feel like to see a black man and I think he's trolling to tell the truth? Yeah, I don't think he don't want to try me out. First. At first I thought that, but well he's seriously, I ain't gonna the news design is kind of better like he designed it. It was kind of hall and he designed his own ship. Yeah that's my word. I'm not he designed. Yeah, he designed his own kid. The one he's wearing. Yeah, what he's wearing,

jez yousigned. He redsigned it, he said at the first post he put up and said, he said, look, I redsigned it. Man, it's super worse you're saying. You do you think he's trolling? I think he's trolling. I don't think he really believes you. I'm why would he's not playing because because he's in troll. He actually said, I'm a bigger troll than fifty cent and six nine. He actually said that. That's quote he says that Kanye, you

go online and and and put it up. Yeah. I believe know what he's doing, man, He meaning meaning what you think like the trolling. He know what he's doing. How is it? You know what he's doing? Believe me? But you know what, this is what I thought he was trying to. I thought he was trying to prove that the same people who who got mad at him when he said Bush don't care about black people, he

funked that up. No, but I just took that away when he went pro Trump, the same people that hated him on that, all the white people whatever, they all started loving him. So I thought he was trying to prove a point of the hypocrisy. I don't think. I don't think that's you're thinking too hard. He's thinking too hard. You just can't know what he's doing. He just just leaving that. He trying to be the talk of the town. Like as long as you keep talking about him, he

don't care. I don't gonna say it's kanye't like you know something, it's not cool man, Like that's like, that's not cool. We all do? We all do? Is he like the new Michael Jackson? Like remember, like Michael Jackson could be accused of anything, but we're still around. We're still Jackson never played nothing, knowing that, integrating, not knowing it,

back grading, homosexual, nothing that had, you know what the stands. Yes, Weirdly, when I was in the airport and I see a white person with that hat on, I actually moved on the other side. I don't even want to be near them, Like that's real. At the time that they put the German shutters and that has a modern day whitehood man.

That's how it feels like ancestors on our grandparents, grandparents, and it's just it's it's really sad to me because you know, I'm kind of didn't come from a family of black stoar you know family well you know, but they trying to make the same like we in the modern day. They're trying to make it seem like it too down the eighteen and all that ship ain't it's important right now and it's like like history just eration

and like I don't think so much about it. So it's like they're trying to make it seem like um like like y'all cared too much about the history. Yeah, I mean, I mean that's what they wanted to do, you know, the racist They want to take it in history. They want to make you forget about you know, time back again that happen. It didn't want to make it cool for the planning certain cities, torches and yeah they

don't happen. Hood don't mean, but I don't for them waiting Black City, Carol City, Yeah Carolson, what say, now how's that in Memphis? Because um, there's a lot of white people you yell with racing them before out there down there, it's more it's like you just used to this ship down you know what I'm saying, But you go to places like Chicago, l A. And like all that ship like you see, it's like like that's when you start seeing like like them like home, you know

what i mean. And men who's like that ship different, you know what I'm saying, Like like they're cool with everywhere else is like you see the different race relationships more and now all that ship like it's probably it's probably like just nu getting like they don't ain't Luther King from Memphis, No, he Birmingham. That's they got killed them. They're so that guy I got it. I had to

feel we yeah, he got killed them. That's crazy. That's crazy and sometimes obviously better now yeah, but that ship still crazy. No, get out of here. You know they just selected the guy happening on. Man just just watched the Who's Cabin? Who that We just we just watched the trial with the woman said that you know what I'm saying, she wants all I said do with his

name started to v Cavanaugh. So you know, when I'm getting into this Supreme Court, it's gonna get about bout my father really like they're gonna try to you're gonna bashing sign thing like that, like you know what Trump, he didn't got an office and you send the old shame of mass that's gonna be very different from me for us to cover from, you know, from the decade. You know, Trump going me out of the office, like I truly believe in my heart, Like after this next selection,

it's going through who played with it? Now? Who's the replace the who do we at? Will Smith? Do? We gotta throw this room out there that Will Smith. It's gonna really run And Dave Chappelle, did you see that hard? I'm voting for Will Smith and don't make it other motherfucker's vote for real. Smith is a great guy. Just oper just no, no Oprah. He said no, open, open, open to you. It was going on. That's what happened. Tell me, I love open, but no you can't. That's

don't open Why not? That's what the funk they just did. Yes exactly, let's let's let's do tip attack nigga what the president. Let's gamemame for the president, nigga Will Smith on that motherfucker that somebody that's gonna be for the people. Somebody will smith for the people. He just jumped to the Grand Canyon. I saw it. Myselling. We got jumped into Grand can That ain't know black people ship. That's a real you know he on the other side. So we gotta dribe a real swift. Got damn he jumping

Grand Canyon's got de damn? Did you have to do that? Well? Hell no, I'm black black. Yeah, you know, he ain't having some money so long. Yeah, you know he was happy. Now that's but he's saying he's having a party three sixty five days this whole Yeah, what are you turn fifty? So every day he's having a party, and he has a whole crew with him and they're gonna follow him. And then the crew was saying, like, I mean, it's not a party like we party like here he's smoking

the bud and drinking or none of that. But we like to turn on him. No, No, what was the What was the wildest club in Memphis that you had to go through? It the club that you've farm with O J. What was like a state boar over there? What you had to go through? What you mean like like we had for us, we had a tunnel so for us, uh, if he was a New York artist, you had to go and perform at the tunnel and get your props. And if you didn't do that, then

he wasn't even considered like a New York artist. Who was that? Uh? For members? Oh, it was probably an envy and level two back then, club envy and level two. I think I've been a club of envy. Remember level two for guy? H h m hm. Now he was gonna say some another on you good? Okay, now roll out? Let's say last, that's the last time you just put out? It's a temple? Yeah? Right? Weeks ago? Yeah? Yeah? So how does it better? The album Crazy is like one

of my favorite ones today, like what's super hard sho? Okay, guys, I don't notice you're backwards? Guy, you don't smoke though? Nah? Last small Backwoods almost a rout like will payers okay? Now? Is that is that? Is that lean in there? Because I've never really kind of seen is that lean? God? Dam mu's make some much you got that? Tell us what lean is? Can you get? Describe it to a nigga? I'm an old nigga from New York. I don't know, you know, I drink Old English based to drink Old England?

What what is it? Lena m conscription culp sir prescription calls. Okay, what does it do like when you're drinking? What did you taste good? Just what it tastes good? Okay, I'm gonna be honest. I was on a tour with eight Ball and j G and Japan. Now this time, Japan had no weed, right, so they didn't call it lean. They called it sera. They called it sir so right. The whole time, it was it was, it was, it was actually it wasn't a com porn in Noriega tour.

It was a nor re tour. What campone on there? But we were the eight Ball M j G. This is fucking crazy and the crazy ship was they kept offering me and I didn't hit it. I just became a drunk man that time. But on the plane coming back from Japan, we had it through eleven hours, right, eleven hours, and it was me compone and them too, and first class and oh the big one I forgot

his name, ball Balls. So the white lady came up to us to it was like, listen, I've never seen this before in my life, Like what he never moved. Eleven hours I was in one of this. She said, I never seen this. Like he didn't cough, he didn't move, he didn't sneeze, he didn't scrap. She said, it is he okay? And I was like, oh shit. So that was the first time I'm talking about That's how I know. It's like I know all the towns claim lean and

has been doing. I'm gonna be honest like this is like I'm I'm talking nineteen two thousands, maybe ninety nine. Maybe I'm talking that's how old this story is. You gotta thinks about it. At m j G, they came up with Swinehouse schwarehouse out of Texas. Wow, we're draper, Yeah, well man thof Man, you gotta eat something else, man, Yeah, I love Memphis too. Man. We got you got invite us to whatever you're gonna do. Dream Champs out there too.

We're gonna come out there. You know what I mean? Good, Right, You're gonna invite us, Right, you gonna vite us, inviteles I got I got when you get drunk, when you're gonna have the bench we driver in your life. We dream even that was smoke in California and you're still living with no I still got spot, man, Okay, cool, cool, but you had to get a spot somewhere else. Yeah, that's a beautiful thing that you think because you know

who we do. The history of a rappers are rappers are starting to die in our own city, so which means, funk with our city. Love your city. You ain't got nothing to do with me. Yeah, no, no, no, But be careful because the most of the hate in the world comes from people that's that's just like you. So just be careful when you look at chinks that happened to him, uh freaky time. A lot of guys that it happens in their own city. So I'm not saying

love big. I love your city. Love your city respected, but also be aware that you know, it's good to be outside. It's good to be outside. It's gonna be other places, but you always check in. It's all good, adult man. And I just want to tell you thank you, man. I want to tell you congratulations on what you're doing. On what you're doing. Continue to do what you do, man,

keep up. Before you get out of here, I want to ask this one question because I've heard do you think the word black ball or being black ball, and you think that's that's real. Is that a myth? Or is that is that's actual fact? People actually do that. I don't know that. You ain't got nothing to do with me, don't God, that's the way you had it. That's the way you will do. Drop the pitches and they'd be good. My nick cheese, the way Jesus Doe, you can do that. Drop