Episode 139 w/ Ja Rule

has motherfucker? Have you our makes up? And right now joining us, we have a person that I've witnessed, you know, come into the game. I witnessed meeting him through Leo cons Leo comes brung him to a video shoot with UH to a big pun video shoot. The first time I ever met ed um Is Leo actually brought him to me and he had a band down on and he was smoking weed in the car service on his first time. I see smoke weed in the car service. This man has right from Batman to the one of

the biggest people on the fucking planet. I see I lived in the same block as him. He had countless number one. When your girl was emotional, it is because of him. He's continuously stayed in your face. He smiled, he did what he had to do. He stood tall, and he's motherfucker's still in this motherfucking game. Just ripped down the VMAs. His face was so closely close to Jo's as believe it pointed at that his wife was

in the crowd. He was walking for me. Well, I was like, damn, baby, if it's one person you could get a chance with it, gonna let me spell. So if you don't know who I'm talking about, dat night to our second guest, I don't remember if he came late, J J. Kiss came late, but that's how we could buy them together. But in case you don't know who the funk, I'm talking about, my motherfucking friend, my motherfucking legend, the motherfucking longevity gal, motherfucking John rules in the building.

Now now listen, John, I've seen this as you long club. I'm not gonna lie. Your bracelet game is very dam I'm gonna be honest. That's explicit breaks the game right there, just telling you your eye for accessories is get the books. I get the books. Every time I purchase an idol, they sent me the books and not just be looking. So now I know because you know, one time I met a dude with a presidential role that ship with one diamond on it, and I thought it was whacking.

And I came back home and I was like, that's a masterpiece. I didn't been so now I just know that. But your very special job. You're still out here doing what the funk you gotta do. I'm enjoying life. I work hard, humble, you know, and just enjoying life. You know me, and I know you and I love you too as well. You know I love you too well. Bro. So but let's let's take it from the beginning, because, um, in the beginning, when we first saw Earth Gotti, we

saw him with Mike Geronimo. Facts, how did it go from Earth being the guy to put on Mike Geronimo to erv leaning towards cash money? Click? I want to take it from that before we go into jar rules solo. Well, I mean, because you guys, what was the first cash money? I was gonna bring that vinyl to I have the vinyl? You know what you know? Ev Irving. Mike had a special relationship, and we say, Mike and Blood recordings with

recording TVT. What's that Steve got? Steve got, no reason, Steve, Steve got you know, you know, you shout out to Steve. You know, he was a big part of my beginning. And w I'm sitting in a lot of people beginning, a lot of a lot of people beginning. What are you also fucked up? He slipped up, But still he

could have had Blake, He could have had me. He could have murder DM Mexican at jay Z. No, No, I don't say he could have had you know, he could have got He listens to drink ch he could have had us the chronic and you got you know, Steve called me about the chronic. To Steve first, he passed on it. First, he passed on the first chronic one. He knew what the stars reading so good, so he goes to Mike cam on them all and then they go to cash Money Click, now, cash money click. You

guys do an album? Correct, Oh, it's just we we we we we were in the process of making up. We didn't get we didn't get a chance to fully make the album. As you know see this is the funny ship. Who's in cash money clicks me? My brother Chris Black, Chris Black was going on What's Up Black? What Up? One? It was my brother's man, and we go on the show that was dope and the funny ship is when we first got our deal. We know we got the deal was like but thirty thirty wine

on thirty undred a piece of ship. Dude, let's do the santh of magree. Let's ship. Okay, let's go, let's go up. But they gave us like thirty five. We split like thirty three hundred dollars a piece of ship. Like, how was all that that was? How did that go down? No? No, that's what we got. We got split thirty three hundred and three ways three hundred. He's got three ny It was like brands ship and we broke out five grands pick up a trash you get the morning Up trash ship.

So we got we we did so so you know, us being who we was, we saw you know, we were still using that time. Black had to play I am gonna flip some of his bread and makes you know, makes money in the process started. In the process of that, Black got locked up and did five years, God bless. And then that that kind of tore apart with the group was gonna be, you know what I'm saying. And

then so I was in limbo. You know, I ain't know what what I was gonna do because the label wasn't trying to just put out me and oh it wasn't trying to do that. It was trying to, you know, make it a group situation. Black was going So I was kind of trying to wave it out and see what's going on. Mike was doing his thing. God, he was doing this thing with Mike. But Mike and got he started getting into a little riff, you know what

I mean, And it was that a flush of Holly ship. No. I wouldn't say s. I just said, you know, Mike, No, Mike. Mike had ambitions to to work with other producers that was from his hood, like large professor, you know, like that, you know what I'm saying. He wanted to He wanted to really like work with those dudes. Got He like

keeping in the house, Yeah, God, he got. He felt a little slightly because it was like, Yo, I put you in this position, and as soon as you're getting a position, you want all these other dudes to make it be so they had a little thing with them or whatever, and it didn't have nothing to do with me. I really didn't didn't didn't care what was going on that. I just wanted to make music and do my thing. And so that's that's basically how that was rolling out.

Mike and gott He got into a fallout, which was the end of that and which was really the beginning of damn It. So do you guys, do you guys actually do an album or what was it? We didn't do an album on t VT. We did an album after I was signed the Death Champ. Damn I went back Halla Halla after that, you did click after after that? After that, it never came out. Who has that album? I don't know. It was a dope put it out right, yeah,

but it was. It was a dope album. We we recorded the album because Leo said that I could go back and do the album with my guys. Now, let's be clear. Is that because Steve Gottli threatened Leo because he was still signed No no, no, no no no. I was off the label at that time. I wouldn't sign anymore. I wanted to go back and do a record with with my dudes, you know, so with my nikes, So why not doing that deaf because they were still signing of the group. So that was the catch stunna sign you.

So Leo felt like, dog, I'm not not giving you my couch. You know how they're talking about. Let's know what I'm saying, not giving you my couch like this, that's my couch, you know what I'm saying. And I built this couch, you know, with real that he was I wanted to do something with my my niggas a dope project. That would have been dope. It would have been dope on death jamb But Steve wasn't having that. So we did. We did the whole project on t

v T and produced it, produced it. We didn't he talk, We didn't. We We did the project on t v T. Come time to drop, photo shoot, whole ship, hold on and everything ready to go. Come time for the ship to drop. Leo was like, I would never give you jack for that project. So now we're like, Leo, but you said, I never said that. That sounds just like him, And so Steve suit Leo and that was a whole fucking crazy situation and ship called. So, so actually what

you originally a solo artist or I was? I was, I wasn't the girl originally that's how you thought like your career. But then like as a group, that's how I wanted, you know what I mean, how did you get the death Jam deal? So it's kind of it's kind of crazy, I should go. So we get we get a call actually Foxy Browne, that might say, getting big shot Foxes back. So anyway, it was, it was it was a funny time. So I was around eighteen nineteen in that area and they was doing a birthday party.

I was having a birthday party at Q Club, que Club and Queens and so everybody was at the ship. You know, I'm about to say something crazy, but let let me let me like I totally relaxed. Yeah, everyone I was at to you know, death que everybody's dear you know, bringing one of them Bam black Us God bless day boys did and so you know, at the time, you know I was up and coming or whatever. You know, they knew Mike drawing all his ship and they knew about to click. We're not like that, but they knew

we had out two of the records. Or whatever. So Ja and Foxy was performing ain't no nigger at night like the one I got no one that thing. So there was a former at that night. So I was there and and and Fox was there, and you know, I was a little nigga that all of the gangster niggers was showing love to, you know, sending me bottles and ship like that, and you know, just just real showing love for my birthday at the time, a lot of handy already. So Fox is like, Yo, who's this niggah?

So Pretty comes and said, Yo, come kicking with Fox? And Pretty Pretty comes to yo, you know, Fox with meet you whatever whatever. So I downstairs Fox with Fox and Ship we kick it, you know how. She tell her, you know what, I'm who, I am wrapping and I'm trying to wrap do one thing, you know, all that ship. So me and Fox, you know, we we got a bond of friendship out of that. So long behold. One day she's in the office and Leo is trying to find new groups to sign. He's looking at Lord to

re competer guns and cash when he clicked. So he asks Foxes number one star at the time closing office, says Yo, I'm looking to signs these new artists. You know, what do you think about these guys? We think about Peter Guns, go through these guys cast when you click When when he said Cashine could, she was like, yo, tho's my niggas. The niggas is dope and saying like, yo, you just fun with them. They get busy. So she hits me, she said, yo, they goes from that to yo,

we don't want to sign you. Yeah yeah, yeah, no, you got We're talking about Fox Friends. So so anyway, so so um she um called me and told me, Yo, Leo wants to sign y'all. And you knew who Leo was at the time. Okay, so I say, okay, I called got it? Oh my, got it. Leo wants to sign us. He's looking forward to sign the crew. You want to sign you God? He's like, fruit, will you get this from Fox? He told me this is really you know what he calls j Yeah, he calls Jack.

They had to record together, so he figured Jay might know a little more inside on it. Ja and Jay and James basically, I don't really know that about it, but let me do some you know, surging around and find out. So he goes, does a little research and come back to guy said, Yo, it's really all wants to set up a meet me. Job means to get the meetings, to get the met and get set up. We go to meet We get to me and Leo comes out, does the whole you know, ship with us,

takes us in the back. Long story short. He says, he only wants to sign me, but you had solo records? How did how did he? I had get the Fortune, which was kind of like a solo record, you know what I mean? It was it was me rhyming basically most of the record like black and only had like small small parts of the second verse and the third verse. So I basically it was my record, you know what? We here and uh, I hadn't had any solo records yet, so you didn't even think of that. So it was

Leo the first person to make you think that her. Yeah, I'm asking, yeah, you know what, I never really thought of it like that, but yeah, basically leg made me. He made me. He's like, yo, I only want to sign the little guy with a big voice. And so now we're all sitting and that I'm like, Yo, this is you know how that ship. It has been a sweet It's like funk, I finally got my deal that I want, but now it's you know whatever, So I wouldn't you know, we talked about it and owned black

you know they they black as in jail. Oh you know, he gave me his blushing like, OK ahead and man, we will will will double back and do this later, which was what I was trying to do when I did the Cash Money Click album and believe or stopped that. So now you signed as a solo artist, signed as a solo artist, you come out with Holla holler, right, Halla Halla has a success, But I don't think it's the success that you want. Am I correct? With Like, outside of looking at it, why do you say that

I'll get to it later? I'm just asking, am I correct? Remember my me? I get to it later? Did he was gett a great job yesterday? I wouldn't say. I wouldn't say that, you know, I you know, because at the time, I really, you know not In that error, hip hop niggas was really only doing gold. The only niggas that was selling balk was West Coast Nigga. Yeah. I was a goldennig I was the gold Nick. This goal was it was like the platinum for Man Man that was d So when I came over and over

to death Jam that was the standards was doing. Go got it? You know, he was like, funk that. You know what I'm saying. We want to sell both. We want to sell like the niggas on the West Coast. So you know, I had it in the back of my mind, but it wasn't really like something that I thought was really possible. At the top. I just like, you know, if I go go, I know I'm gonna

get another record on death. You gotta understand. So when you signed the death Sign of the Death Chairs too, so my motherfuck, it's not even basically because it's like it ain't like the track. It's a whole another fight with de Jim. Now you gotta get from my story. I remember story you came to Let I remember story you came to me, and I had the same as act story. You came to me one day and said that Leo writed you to this uh place on twenty A Park. I forget where it is, and you said,

is it nice? And he said, yeah, make sure you had enough to come here next year. And I had that same as act story the day before or the day after. It could have been the day after you and that describes death camp. At that moment. It's like, yo, motherfucker, if you hot, then we're gonna sunk with you. If you're not, we're funking with the motherfucker that's hot. That's it. And that was it. And it was straight up and down, so it's not even disrespect. Definitely was an institution. Man,

they grew yourself fast. Damn institution. Damn. I ain't look at it like that, but it was. It was, it was, it was. It was the school of hard knocks for hip hop. Because even that didn't wasn't sign of death would be in the dabels that rush management then, so everybody was there. The whole industry that was like ground was like that. Okay, so Halla Halla comes comes out? Who was six? You know that was any better? Beat you bad? Great? A right comes out? And then after

this it's a switch. But you didn't get back to why he didn't like hollo hollo. Oh yeah, I didn't like halo holo. So where did you get that from? Okay, I'm gonna tell you now. Was the time? The time is Okay, you gotta want you. You got me. Just the reason why is because of the switch. The switches holla holla, was like, it's for the holliest base. And I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you one. I'm gonna tell you. It's a personal story. Me and you.

We had lived six months together in the same block and we had in spoke right, and it was just one day you knocked at my door. He was like, you smoked. I was like, yeah, like I'm smoking right now. He was like, you got cigars and I have feelings. That's why you just ranked on me earlier. This is when y'all lived in Jurny, not left ye already you already. And then one day I'm gonna be honest, I don't know,

tell me if I'm wrong with the timeline. But one day it was fucking with you and you knocked on my door and this is not to be cool already and nothing on. He said, yo, let me tell you something. He said, let me ask you something, and I said, what's up? He said, you think I sound like X And I was like no, and he was like I know,

I don't. It's you know, we both loud and then and then I don't know if it was from that moment on, but you changed your whole ship from like you you trusted me because I was like, like like a stranger basically, but I mean your same game and you knocked them out thor you asked me that you know what it was. It's like you're an artist because

you know why me cut you off. You know why it was going I knew exactly what just going through because I had came out to Pola Noriega and everyone compared me to marb d And that's what that's that's why you felt me because I was like, yo, listen, everyone could pay me, and this is what I told you everyone, Mike Ron, But I don't know if I told you this what I remember, And I don't know because I'm trying to claim credit for something may maybe I don't can't credit. But I said, that's why I

sucked it for rep. I said, for real, made me different direction, and you never answering me. You just you listened to me, and then you start coming with these other records and your cars started changing down the block. I'm gonna be this is the first thing I thought. I didn't even know what that was. At first, I'm going to say, what is that? Okay? But whatever before he answered this, what other records? Did you notice that started sounding different? No, it was it was that after

that album I forget. It was the first single from the next album. It was swee you I think between me and you, And it was from that moment that I felt, in my opinion, mind you, I'm still a fan. You're my friend at this time, I'm still a fan in my opinion. That was your way of saying I'm my own motherfucking Differentia. You know what I'm saying. Let me tell you. So. Yeah, when you're artist and you're a new artist, people feel in need to compare you to something which is not all the way back what

I care. It's always gonna be like people and whatever, It's gonna be all this sky's like that's what most of the time. Whatever. You know, he's the new Steph Curt. It's always gonna be that guy that's you know, compared to so I was getting so much yo. You know, he sounds like eggs he he you know, he's want to be Tupac And it's like guys, you know, like these guys you know what me and Extra foot first first of all. But Tupac, He's like, of course I

love Tupac. Looked up to two PACs. It was sucking dope to everybody. So and this is what I see. These are the things that try to I'm teaching my son because he raps. Now I'm trying to teach him something. You know, yeah, just like no kick you out. But what I tell him more he is you can't fit in when you stand down. Wait what time I'm gonna explain that. What I'm saying and and and what I mean by that is I was a young kid not seeing myself as jar rou and being influenced by hip hop.

So yeah, I went and got tattoos like everybody else is getting tattoos. Motherfucker's was rocking bandanas. I was rocking Bandannis. But what I wasn't realizing that is I'm becoming job Rule. So now John Rule is gonna be looked at and scrutinized different than just a kid that's on the street emulating his favorite artist. You understand what I'm saying. So that's what I mean by it's hard to fit in

when you stand out. I was becoming a standout. It was impossible for me to fit in and be part of the in crowd of what niggas was doing anymore. So in my mind, I said, you know what, I'm an artist. First, I have to change this whole narrative. I have to become job rule was it ecstasy? Stow it out there, you guys, LIAMI, because it's over planning, hind rolls and make it take and listen every little thing that we did not prop up in my hand, my nigga studio. You know, I get a lot to you.

But but um, because because YO listen rule, Um, it was beautiful to see that transition though it was beautiful for you to that's all. That's all. You should be able to transcend and do different things. What's you're awful and sometimes you're coming to your own. I think that's what you're saying. Yes, eventually you're gonna emulation and you're coming to your own and change. But yes, talking bro', if you I'm sorry, it's it's my life. It's my life.

Is life? Don't work work or if you if you you know, are an artist and and and you want to elevate and change. Sometimes the fans I want you to do that, but I'm sorry because what was the first thing? Okay, we just between me and you, right, So what was the moment when you said I'm gonna stick with this form of because it worked, or you said I'm gonna go back. What was the moment where you say, you know what, fuck it, I'm gonna just I'm gonna just stick here, because I remember it was

it was, it was. I don't remember the exact moment because it was like we took a lot of drugs and no, no, no, it was because because it was it was. It was then on slaughter you look, you're trying to be like you sound like you you know. So it was also so the conscious decision was just made, like you know what, I have to come into my own my hair and you. Right, we said between me and you, Yeah, between that's that's a little more Christian man, you put the y'all on you. That's not that's not

in my little time. I don't know if that was one of her first records, so I'm not earlier and we loved early and Christie, we loved her, but that was her first record that we know it was early in her career. Yeah, that's so how did you know?

How did she christ? What happened? Was she was that jam? Well, that's well, yeah, she was on deaf jam and and you know she was a new town on Jeff jam that they was trying to when they set that up to set you know, you know that was your choice or death damper because you order and um um it was it was a mutual choice. And what was it? What was what was in the first albums TC six, No One, No Visions and that would go, that would go no right like black almost two million? Damn, I

gotta relax, you gotta relaxed. I'm counting your money. It's totally totally out of line, totally out of line, this comp altogether alright. So so you come up with this record. Now she's even you guys that you gotta relax. So you come there. You ain't gotta joint, bro, you gotta change change then got I was talking about too earlier to you and you said, I know, talking on camera, you gotta relax on camera, camera persona camera at all. OK. So you come up with this first single, this is

that's happens. Depth jam is now pushing you towards what there is the thing. You know, Leo's saying, they didn't like you gotcheck your underbelly. That's what you're telling me is that's the exact statements, an exact statement those words. By the way, I still know what the underbelly is. I think that's your dick. I'm just doing what the underbelling is. What he's saying, you have to protect you. You know, it's your blindsided, your body, your hardcore fans.

You know what I'm saying. You don't know that, yeah, basically saying so. But but you know, they basically wanted me to make another hour. I'm like, I'm not gonna do that. You know what I'm saying, Like that's not Brazil with Gloria, But that's never happening. I'm never making another hour. You just so that's remember you broke as well, Like you sounded horrible, I ain't broke her as well. A lot of way. This is a foul show. I don't even mean it like that. You can come on

the show. At the show they got shot. Was the first time I store was in that video she had like the black thing on, wasn't It was very crazy. I was like, oh my god, holy moldly like and then didn't you Yes, yes, okay. The video fixings were a big part of hip hop culture, and I mean throughout ever Yerror. You know, they played a big part. The video mixesix video vixing they did, they did dot com the party, do idea or leave it you want, because I don't know. If you've seen, you had to

have seen. It's so crazy. You can't even avoid it if he's not trying to see it. I've seen it. I've seen it a hunted time, so I know, Rue, because you don't do interviews. That's another thing. I don't do anything. And you know how many people are gonna be mad at me about you know what? This is why I gotta let me. This is my brother relationships, my real favorite brother vixen. Is there anything to comment on,

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see people give you your just due. Because a lot of people that I'm gonna through it out there, a lot of people think like you fell off for people. People don't understand you still live your life. You still have the eight fifty. Uh no, I ain't excuse me, let me let me relax. The white Yeah, the first on one I've ever seen, by the way. People don't understand that because you don't rag, and you don't you don't understand that you hold jail time. Your house is

still intact. All people think is you had nineteen records playing at one time and now you don't have it, so they think that they don't understand that you can. You can live a great life, you know what I'm saying. And you know people, you know people. As you get older, man, different things start to excite you. I love music. Music is always gonna be you know, like like my baby, you know what I mean. I easually live breathe ship music. I think of rhymes all the time. I think of

hope since ship all the time. Do I always want to go in the studio and and and lay it down? Nor when I was in prison, I didn't write no rhymes at all. That's what time where a lot of niggas go and like pin it out do. I didn't want to do that. That that was the time for me to do something else, reflect learn who I am. You know what I mean? Because you know, Malcolm X said something really interesting and and he said, you know the best place for black men besides you know college

is prison. And you know that just sounds so crazy. Sounds crazy now you understand. But when you're in prison another institution, you start to understand. You see, in life, you're gonna go through three institutions, prison, army, military, or education. And when you when you really look at all three of them, they're really structures very similar in the way that they're made to produce human beings, you know what I mean. So so yeah, you know what I mean.

So so so when I went to prison, I really sat with myself and had a chance to look at everything, you know, from from the from the outside looking at and so to speak, and look at my own life and see my own mistakes and you know, not not not have anybody to blame a point the thing at or anything like that, and just say, yo, you know what, You're here because you fucked up. And in a lot of ways. You know, you want to blame so many things.

You want to blame the police for the leading stop, or you want to whatever the funding would have, you know, whatever you want to blame. But I locked it the same night and m bomb cool bum bum boom bom. We got a little ways bomboo. And you take you don't have a side of that, and you trying to And I'm gonna tell you why I'm gonna crack the bath. I see qua crooked police in the name I don't know if we should be doing that. The rule he's gonna have a trip. But I've had shots for way

worship drink. No, I'm not saying for them. You know, I don't even know if I'm trying to. When are we drinking? First of all, this is drinking some from and its little ways. It's little ways. But see the islands in the backgrou oh yeah you got No, this is not but this U from with brands from U from from bel Yeah, beter have my big shot to my people's bigger Mac main Man Mac Man Mac. We're gonna have something should look hot as hell. I ain't gonna lie that's not going that looks hot as a

mother like Sonny had it. May. This is just feel like you gotta get ready for this that you have shot that's looked like that's how like that ship like put you on your back of Sunny's truck. That's you know it's cold up if I'm not gonna smell it because you just said it's yourself half shots were a little way Google, Google, like you know, I love you, my nigked. I'm not even gonna smell it a little.

It looked great though to little way off chance Mac made it through this body way all go down like that's your nice that. I'm not gonna lie that's nice. It needs a little lights. It's dangerous. It's dangerous. It's gonna yeah, yeah, it's like it's what it's smooth? What is it? It's wrong And it takes like Vanilla in that movie, like some takes the cinnamenta sent really sitting there, but none of the abstract shout tears it down? Does her thing? A shanty is kind of affected. That was

a good way. That was that good. I was not We spoke about it, me and Bonnie and okay, I think she you know, Um was was mad that Jo didn't shot her out. No, you know, I don't you know, I don't even want to dig into this because you know what you need to have a shot to on the show. I definitely can can can speak for herself, you know what. I don't want to speak for her,

but I wouldn't say this. I wouldn't say, you know, whatever it looked like she you know, when we spoke, she said that was not her intent, and so you know, I gotta you know that's that's what that is. You know what I'm saying, so I'm not even engaging in that and talking about that. You know, it's it's it's crazy, you know that. And like I said, I try to have a drama free lack step one. You know what I'm saying. I don't want. I don't want I don't

want any drama. So you don't know nothing about this. Basically the only only only thing I would say, and I think it needs to be cleared up, is what happened? Like who wrote? Who wrote? What? Like? People like you know what I'm saying, like it doesn't even matter at this point. The record what we heard, what we heard is you wrote everything you are talking about, like publishing. I want to clear this up once before. I'm a clearing one for I'm Real was written by me. Beautiful record,

dope record. I wrote the record, you know, Ain't it funny? Came about a funny way? What kind of that talk I'm gonna tell I want to tell you this because it ain't funn This is a good story. Is it fun It's kind of funny. Let's go so so we're right way the way. Ain't it funny? Was created me and me and Jenny was having a conversation and Jennifer Me and Jaylo Jennifer j Yah, Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm

gonna relax. Joke. Yeah, you're why would you he's hanging with Jennifer, Mike, guys was jay Loo was having a conversation Jennifer Jenlo was have a conversation and we were just talking about relationships and ship like that. And she was telling me something about a particular relationship that she was in and that's how ain't it funny? King? Was it?

Pop into molation? You don't told me? You was like never realized getting the look he getting the look like like that was your that was your fun like this And I'm like, I'm like that was all that was like you like, I'm I'm not sure. You're not sure that you broke Ain't that funny? I'm not sure who who may or may not be about? It was just a relationship she was talking about, right coincides and I came up with the hook. It was like spontaneous right there.

I was the whole ship. I started laughing. I said, ain't funny? Me? I was crazy, I'm that the smile saying that funny. So she was like, sho, that's fucking though she loved it. This was just me singing the hook. Don't reference anything, Okay, all right, So I go to the studio and I recall we do we do the uh? I did the first and I did the bridge the bab is that that? Give me that that ship? So you know, I did the spot. So Bonnie at the time, she's a new artist. Okay, you gotta relax. Bonnie is

shot here. Please, everybody's like in, so gotta so it was stopping. We got we got normal fans, gotta continue. I'm exposing. I'm like, you missed them talking to you? I didn't. I think I heard that one. Yeah, anyway, anyway, so I'm going I'm in the winds today. So Bonnie's a new artist, time shot just new artists of the time, and you know, she she's proven that she's got a good you know, pin game because that she's ready for

herself and stuff like that. So so so we're in the studio and I'm like, Yo, Bonnie, Yo, the record is basically not shot. Well, I'm like, yo, you know, do you know the verses to the record. I think I was tied. So I was like, I'm you know what I'm saying, go ahead and lay away or whatever. Do the verses and ship. So I went in other room, lay down, chill, Bonnie. Did the verses? Killed the ship? We kept it? You know what I'm saying, Like it's

only to change that it was magic and defense. Do you feel like that she she felt she was slighted because of that, her defense, you know, No, no, no, I don't see. I don't know. I don't know if if, if you could, she may, I don't. I don't really know, you know what I'm saying. I don't. I don't think she could you credit as a writer on there? Right? Is she as well? Was he? Here's the thing? This

is where you get deep. Here's the thing. No, it doesn't get so deep, but it gets his understanding of it. You know what I'm saying. She wasn't supposed to write the record. You know what I'm saying. It was my record to write for jail. So it basically I was hiring to write the record and let Vannie write the verses. I wrote the look in the Bridge. Jaylo already loved what she knew what the record was gonna be. But Hook and everything Benny loved. They all loved that record,

Every Love the Red one. So it was now it was just filling the verses and make it magic, make it all come together coming out. Can you say you wrote the hook, the beginning, everything. It's just the verses, three verses or one verse. I don't even know how many. You know. It's like with two verses, three verses of

the ships. I think it's two verses the bridge because you want ties on that correct, Yeah on it too, So I think it's mane two verses and and and and I said, but whatever, you know what I'm saying. Shotny wrote ship, she chilled, she killed, she killed the verses, so we kept him, you know what I'm saying. But it wasn't like really it was like no one was

really supposed to know, you know what I'm saying. It was like I didn't you know, We didn't want to tell them at the time that a shotting growth, right, because she was supposed to complicate matters you didn't with women. It's funny. I think Jada's gonna be like, no, I don't, I don't know. You just never know. I think, you

know what I'm saying. There was already a little bit of a situation with the I'm Real record where a Bonnie reference to record you know what I'm saying, and I got he left some of the vocals of Bonni's vocus under the record were it was I don't know, not a big deal at all, but you know how media do you know what I'm saying. So there was already a little bit of feelings that I guess over

that you know what I'm saying. But women are difficult, you know, to to to deal with when you're when you're making music and doing you know, they'd with women. You you gotta treat them like women. They're emotional and you you deal with women how you deal with women. But so so the record was was basically done, BONDI did diverses, records done after the fact it came out. You know, we you know, the records ahead. It doesn't

matter now who knows who wrote the record. It's like, you know what I'm saying, Like like we stole Mary J. Blige's film to make fucking our video Forget the Fortune and Ship Hyper William stole the film After Everybody's successful. It's all right, it's funny now, just at the time it was everybody saying nothing about we're gonna do that, you know what I mean. So it was kind of like that kind of thing. And and you know, a shot te she she did a great job on writing

verses on the record. And it's a dope record, and like that is the story of the record. It's no nothing else that that that we need to be talking about about the record anymore. That is the basic story of the record is. It's not a big deal. Bonnie gets her credit for brighton to to whatever to three dope verses. I wrote a dope wrote the dope hook. Yeah, you know, I wrote a dope hook, and and and shipped for the ship and j Lo. If we get that record to somebody else, it wouldn't be what it is,

you know what I'm saying. So everybody played their part and making what that is so will be the most political that is. That is a real answer. But there's a real there's a real question. I see Earth got he was there, you were there, the kids. Yeah, did Irving j Loo speak Because Irv told me Jlo doesn't speak to him on this. I don't know if they

spoke that. I'm not sure. I don't think they did, because they don't think they crossed each other's paths this week because I'm gonna be on the Jenneral would not speak to him. That's what God, he said to us, She said, she intentionally avoids him. Doesn't know. I don't think that I'm gonna go to the drink chat. I don't think. I don't think that serious. This is a positive John rule, man, I love this, yoh rule. Let's listen,

make noise. I want everybody to be happy, man, Yes, that's the pole, want everybody to be Let me say so. I've been through all the drama. I'm cool. I just I just want everybody to be happy. Man. That's what life is about. Man. Do what you do with in your space. Be happy, you know, be a provider for your family or a great nurturer to your family if you're a woman, or whatever. And that is what success is.

The show success. It's not you know, whatever material things and how much money you have and learned that ship. Those are just things that people will be able to tunulate along their rule to happiness and success. My bad rule, we know. But but you know, everybody is successful in their own right as long as you're happy. So look at my name a little du vile. It is my yo. I don't want a little man. Yeah, yeah, that means always happy. It makes a note. So uh, I believe.

Yesterday we have Fat Joe here crack crack, and I said, Fat Joe, um, where do you stand? Like? You know? Because he takes pictures of fifty. He hangs out with fifty, and then we heard a room on that story of the story that they was supposed to be a summer jam incident. Fat Joe comes out, he brings out fifty, and then he brings out you, which would have been kind of amazing. Why would that be so amazing to everybody? I don't know, because it's everything you're saying to the

first tacond shot up. I don't know what I's saw amazing clear, everything about being happy. Yeah, yeah, you're being happy. You look like friends. Right now? Come on, yeah, got the curling right now, let's go over there. I'm alright, cool, I'm good, hold on, hold on tennis shot first rule. I was good. Think about it after the show. What's that mean? What does that mean? Yeah? What's down? And goes? I'm Leven's ad core, But this is this is good.

But when I'm mixing. It's not you're mixing is fucked up, being rudey and guess like that man in different languages. Ship, No, no, no, what's good? We did? We just said to the gang whatever that let's just said, get into it. You're talking about So now we're talking about the job, all right. So he said, why is that good? Okay, let me let me let me just act you who what's the first time you hear this situation? And oh, freshwoman? Yeah, yeah good? Then look at your broaches. Man, you you're

very rich. What do you mean you stop telling you? You don't say I love this thig of my nigger? I hold on, all right, So this is how I want to Fat Joe calls you. When the first time you heard of this idea? Was it? Fat Joe? Yeah? My house? Wou want to hear this idea? Okay, I'm sorry, it was fat Fat Joe calls you? And how does this happen? He thought it would be a good idea to bring me him on stage for a big summer jam Kombaya, and I just didn't think that made sense. See,

it's what everybody needs to really mice. I'm sorry, here's what right, there. Yeah, here's what everybody needs to realize about me and fifty. We were never friends. So it's like y'all, like y'all need to get it reunion, You'll need to get that we would never friends. So it's not like we need to reach to do something that was there. It was we would never but not not to a job. But Joe and fifty were never friends either though. Well that's showing they also have something mutual

in common. And man, yeah it was for Chris didn't manage you too for a little while. Price did not manage me, man for two weeks even two weeks yeah me you Chris like was his calendar? Chris like, you've never managed not even the day, and that it was a leaping here. He never managed me. We you know, we had a relationship at one time, but you know it wasn't it was like boy had a dislike for Chris Lidy. We never had a you know, it was listen, man, this ship was wrap beef turned into you know or

street beef. You know what I'm saying. And it's like we would never friends, and there's no reason for us to come together and do a cool buyer you know what I'm saying, but like him and game, that's cool. That's great for hip hop. They were cool and then they you know, you don't think you guys would be great for hip hop? What's so great about it? Tell me what would be so great about that? All right? I can tell a Joe comes out, letn't put the microp Okay, he comes out, y'all do new? Y'all new?

Y'all yes? And then fifty comes out and then y'all don't need you don't gotta smack five? Right, you don't gonna do that. But one thing is on one side, one thing is on the other side, and then then Joe's in the middle. Like for him, he's crazy. He looks the smoke. Should I do it? As I'm from Queens? It looks better than me. But I cannot pull that off.

I know that, So who was it? You see the necessity that I mean you have to understand why fans and like them like like to see I mean you have to understand you understand that people, I mean, we get we don't know the intricacies of the beast thing. You ask me my explanation and how I feel about it? If you ever have the more the show asking with these things, and when we ask watch him go into old avoided, Yeah we did, you know? Next time and if him we avoided all fifty questions and yeah we did.

We know, we had no but it's the first time, you know, But we want my husband. We're not doing it first like some ship. Let me let me say this too, this is this is you want some big visipop and any big hip hop. Yes, please. I don't have no issues with him either, like currently, I don't know. I don't give a funk that he does. I don't what do I do? You know what I'm saying, how you're both are making money. You guys are good. You he's the here's the real thing, and here's with all

the fans and everybody needs to understand. We're two kids from fucking queens from the bottom. We started with nothing. You know, we have not a dollar, not nothing, not too nickels. Rub together, we made something of ourselves and we're both in good positions in our life. People could say he's in a better position for me for whatever reason. People could say I'm in a better position for than

him for whatever reason. None of that matters, and it shouldn't matter to nobody else because we don't give a funk and we're fine. You know what I'm saying. The people that are worried about that ship or thinking about that ship, it's like, yo, dog, what are you doing? Man? This is two thousand eighteen with forty were my forty two years old. I got three, I got grown kids. I had a daughter that just graduated from college. My

son's about to go to college. Like like you know, I'm like this, that ship is irrelevant to me and for us to have this big cool by y'all, I think it's really way past the time for that. Does jobro watch Power? I do not. I do not, but I got here. Courtney Kemp has an amazing show. Yes, that was about my head. I have no idea what you just said. It's way about my ass about my fagor said I hear. Courtney Kemp has an amazing show. That was hard. I don't know why, but I know

it's hard. But hey. But for the record, though I did ask Joe about him and Cuban Lake as well, and that that didn't head out that I didn't. I didn't. It was a station. Why y'all went to due shot? Why not how you see right now? Little what is talk about? It a little fun but you know what, you know what um um Fat Joe called me one day and he wanted to put his beef aside. Well, Jack and I hit bleeking me and Bleak put that

together and now they coom by y'all. Um. Probably the only beef that I ever wouldn't step into was that, you know what I'm saying, because I know that y'all ship is personal at the end of the day, as a personal queens, as a businessman, as a a rapper. All wish we all got along also, but I wish nobody knew. You know, I want everybody to do what

I don't. I don't care if he does well. But you know what I'm saying, I don't sit around and when he does something you know, you know, fucked up, or he goes through his problems or whatever, I don't get on the brand and be like, listen, I don't care. I don't give a funk. I'm grown man, I'm beyond that ship. So I really don't you know, I really

don't let those things affect me. You understand, what I'm doing right now is so above and beyond that, you know, like I'm I'm in the tech space right now, and then I have an amazing tech company, and that's what I want to do. I want to create, you know, and innovate and and entertain. I want to do things that people are not doing, you know what I'm saying. And if that and and in the meanwhile pushing hip hop forward. You know, I'm so doing things to to

to help the culture. That's what I'm about. That's what I want to do. You know what i mean, philanthropy, you know, things like that. I'm not sticking to that philanthropy. I'm not a philaspist. That was hard, I'm you know those are yeah, keep going, keep going, yeah, yeah, we go. You know it sounds yeah, So I I gotta take you got t talk tech mee? So no, I gotta I got a tech company. You know, is it? Is it investing in tech or you're developing to take yourself?

You know, I'm developing tech myself, but I'm also into investing in tech like I I also you know, will invest and have investors. What's the main stuff you're trying to develop? So right now I'm developing right now? Yes, it's it's kind of it's kind of cool what I'm doing because I'm really trying to educate artists, so you're putting other people onto it. Yeah, you know, my my platform is I'm really what you would call, you know,

the application agent basically, you know what I mean. I created a booking app, so you know, I could put Nori on the app or who Yeah, and it's an app and and and bias can go directly to the artist, to the management team. So you know, if if guy in Dubai wants to do a fucking you know, a birthday party for is his daughter and he wants to pay nor read million dollars to come, he can hit the no redirect all the you know so and and

it's it's wonder one's direct. I don't take anything from the artist, you know, I get my money on the black end. And it's and it's really, it's it's really you know, you're very disruptive. Also, sorry dollars in a positive way. What we're talking about? What were we talking about? What were we talking about? Right now? We're talking about you. I'm always trying to just tell them about my new chech venture, not fire Festival, because we gotta do we're

gonna talk about that. Yeah, I talk about we can talk about that. We gotta talk about that. We talk about that. We're talking about that. Amazing, can you. I'm on the bottle because you let let me let me see if you're like rule is. You know nickas die from hot Champagne. So I want to make sure that I'm not gonna lie. Your bracelett is very Thank you, my brother. I appreciate that. Want to even come out. You know this, this is cause this is the Cardia Now,

this is my favorite's coming out. This is my favorite. What does that? I'm hungry? Everyone hungry, you know, let's make some noise bracelets gut there and yeah you know ye know that. Yeah, we're gonna put this shopping. I gotta look at okay man, we got we got champagne glasses. Come on the real fancy head drink champ to see that he's had red cups. I think it's got things. The flutes got there got Do you want to make some noise for us? I don't want to. I ain't

gonna lie. Mom Daddy cut the check there making bake you. I didn't cut that. No, we got a blood roller, ye know. I got a blood. I got a blunt friend. That's my friend. That he was blunt. You don't get paid then that's what you say abroad. Listen see that I didn't come on. He got you. And we also have we also have to find the cigars from Nika Wagwa. Oh I er did I say say all? I mean, you know because a lot of these movie want to people Cuba. A lot of these want people Cuba. I'm

just telling you Nick. You know I gotta show to night now. Yeah, I came here, Nue. I know you were turning to show away. It's like it's real. It's all good. Then come on us. I want first. I would like that you expect from man. It's all my first time go to the champaigne. I love my brother, you know, man, this is a this I just want to say, man, yes please, this is a fucking amazing thing that you got going on drink chairs. Man, thank you, I love you. My brother just done you too. Man.

I let us see this is you're doing this ship that's really dope. Taking up this is what you are supposed to be doing. I exactly and own media owned everything. And that's why you know I was something about the I created this for us. Just you're not just for me. It's for everybody. It's for it's for you to you everybody. We you know what I'm saying. You you you fucking have people direct you, contact you one the one. It's an amazing fucking platform. Then thank you. Man. So we

gotta get fired out the way. We're gonna get out the way. Well I can't. I don't real i't really about the sandwiches. It's still there's no sand just let's called pay I say you you get niggas, but don't hold up, hold up about the festival friends like this. Let's you know, I call you tea. I said the way your friends and listen, like the little bit of racist in me was like you gave white people below first a little bit. I'm sorry, little bit. The first

of all, I want to say, you're doing again. No, no, no, I'm not ashamed of and I'm not ashamed the fire fire fest of all what you guys trying to do. No, because man, the idea of what it was really it was fucking beyond brother, because it's in brahamas right. Yeah, the questival, idea, everything it was orchestraateed. God, it was. It was amazing, you know, but but that's the but it did it didn't. It wasn't what I dreamed of it was being and what I envisioned it of being

and what I wanted it to be. It wasn't done properly. It wasn't you know, you understand. And so as a friend, you think if you would have been on the ground, it would have been a little better because that was We're not realized, you know, because I'm like a media guy, so I have to like read everything. No, no, finish the wine first, come on, I have to read everything.

Great took you ask him some difficult questions. One of the difficult one of the work um that the most complaints was, I felt like people wanted to see you involved when it went wrong. When it I just felt like that. I just felt like period, whenever wrong, whenever right. I just felt like if they would have sold you do think it was a logistics This is a real nigger conversation. You didn't see me as far as war.

I mean, like you know, when you see you know David Gruppman and live it just makes you feel good, you know what I'm saying, so, I feel like when I'm reading the stories, that's most of the thing. It fits the situation. I think. I think because there was people bought into it was a logistics I'm outside of. Look, people are outside of didn't buy into the fest People didn't really know I had anything to do with the festivality until they went wrong. That's the crazy part. That's

the true said yeah, it was like the sea. Then trying to blame somebody. Lets you're just a partner, saying So that's where I'm like, wait a minute. You know, it was my idea, my vision to do this, and I'm no way to shape a form ashamed of my vision and what it was to do this. I wanted to create some people amazing bad. I wanted to create some amazing And you know, I'm not a negger that likes to, you know, put blame and throw people in the bush on others. You know, I like to, you know,

put the owners on myself. Is to say I should have been more on top of things. I should have you know, you know, not trusted, you know people certain things and maybe you know, I'm positive things would have been like that. So you know, I'm that that part

of it. You know, I take all responsibility and I'm like, you know that that you know, I wish you know, I wasn't running around tour and moving around and you know, doing things and not norfls and not being on top of the whole situation the way I should have been, because you know, one thing, as artists, some times you lend your vision, and when you lend your vision to others,

you entrust in others to carry that vision. It's like me making an album for Deaf Jam and giving them the finished product and said, okay, you guys, do what you do with it. You know what I'm saying. I just gave them my vision, my creation. But they didn't suck it up. It's plenty of artists that can plain about giving their visits or whatever, and they fuck it up. They don't they don't carry that vision. They don't grasp what that you understand, it's not carried out orchestrated. Probably,

so these things in business happen. But you know the one thing that I really you know, I'm really proud of myself as I didn't let that. I didn't let that, you know, set me back the way people thought it were. You know I lost You know, people don't I lost money and that ship. You know what I'm saying, Like, it's not like I didn't make a dial lide. I

didn't get that. What did you learn out of that situation though, because I mean you have to learn my main my main lesson that I learned that that is never give nobody the keys to your more plain car. You understand, you get in it, nigger, but you can't drive, you understand. And and I think I think that was my main take my rose sometimes that's what I got better old mode not because if it's your vision, it's like the old saying, you want something dumb, right, you

gotta do it yourself. If it's your vision, you gotta see it through, you gotta carry it out. You can't expect somebody else to to to carry out your vision. And and that's my dad was the one of the things that I learned out of that, you know, is to be really really you know when it comes to business. And so you know, you know, I like like like think any other businessmen would do or or or person

that believes in themselves, you know, would do. I tested myself forf you know, recreated my my my situation, my company, and and and it's it's it's an amazing it's an amazing company. And you know, I'm sitting forward, so you're trying to do something like that. Again, it's very different, you know what I mean, It's very different than what I'm doing. But it's similar, you know what I'm saying. It's similar, but it's very it's it's different than album,

creating the atmosphere, but definitely not the same people at all. No, no, no, no, I actually you know me and my guy where we're we're doing it. The the guy that built my previous The other guy's going to jail. Is that true? He's he's in trouble. He's in some trouble. And I'm not trouble, but not for the festival, for some other ships, trouble for festivals, in trouble for some other things. But yeah,

it's it's it's crazy. It's a tough it's a tough situation. Man, it's a tough situation to be involved in, have your name involved in, and and you know, to have people look at me in a certain way, and and you know my character and it's like I'm not come on, man, like you know, I get people, you know, saying scam scamming. You're just trying to strong people scamp you. And I'm like, well, what you what I get out of that? I'm not

a lonely sandwiches. It was funny. It was funny, but but you know that that that's media ship, you know what I'm saying, Like, I just really think about it, if if there was only blowny sandwiches and Geese sandichs, you think there was only one picture blowing sandwich that's floating around, just one picture with the thousand people on that iland, they've been holding them ship stuff like what

they're doing that alone? You know, it's true, it's like you gotta it's just it's just, you know, I wish things didn't go the way they did. You know, it was unfortunately, it's very unfortunate. It's very unfortunate. And to be a part of something like that, and you know, to have my name drug down through through the mud, it's crazy. But like I said, I'm not I'm not ashamed of of what the creation and the vision was. It was amazing. Goddamn makes stuff got damn okay, So

what would murder? It ain't be right? Now if Nas, what sign man? You know, because what was the moment when you felt like, what's this idea? Even birth? Like like RB came to you and said, now it's down like house right. Yeah, I saw something that I really know what I came about. To be honest, you know what I'm saying, but I know it just came about and and I just heard it. Like I was like, yo, Nas, we even gonna get Nas and side Nas is gonna come and be a part of Murdaque. And I was like, go,

you know, I mean Stoke said when you're coming. You know what I'm saying, Like he's like the found the room. What I say people say, he's like you for people to be a little more excited than that, I'll give you an honest I was. He's being honest. He's like I was like coming and not saying this geta let's say something. Nas is a legend in the game. So you know, I was thinking to trust me. Nas came to my career and we beat. I had all kind

of plans listen to inside. Yeah, I was like you get match Lambos, You're here a little kind of plans, but it pay out. You trust me, man, I was like, you're gonna city at one time, We're gonna come through, you know, saying that back food one time from New York. But they didn't paying out. So you want to think because no one, you know, nas decided to do something different, you know what I mean, Like it was gonna happen, and then it didn't happen, you know what I mean.

So I don't really know why it didn't happen or what what happened, but what happened if it didn't happen, let's just play futuristic. You want you won't have Yeah that ship, Well, if we're gonna go have a teal ship, and now then we do a type of the world got to have a billionaire by now I'm on Monting over neck got together ship. I'm like, we're like on that, like I don't know what a little bit really dope is in the building as well, smoking that good dog.

Look we don't get a graph? We good god? Right? How you been about that? What? What? What's call? Do we have a chair that? It's not the way that we're gonna fight right there, get a chair of Mike typo graph. We're graphing the house. These most really blue Sea queens out. I don't like that, you know, it's all we had to talk. I look now now, look now, look I'm not side. It's gonna be all that side brow should do see you too. This is what is this called diego? That wasn't This is the step up.

This is yesterday and already told me how to pick the gods. Yeah, I was just off. Now I'm like, no expert around. I stepped it up. I stepped it up. Lara, Yeah you get I got you grab listen when you're ready. I got you so rude? Then where you an ex great friends? Yeah? Where did you feel? Like that moment with Rent? Wrong? But what you what? You the dog? Yeah? I don't know even mean he hung up that close to the dog. I mean has to has to be the dog, you know me, it's funny to me the dog.

It's like brothers having, you know, saying arguments and fights. We see each other. We cool, but young brothers and Spice was worldwide, but we always see each other. It was cool. That's the same that people want to stay, you know. Yeah, extra go off and say it's crazy ship. You know, I'm I'm you know, i'd say my ship and then we see each other. It would be cool. We laughing, smoke some bleed and sweed and all right. We have a different relationship. We have a we have

a weird relationship. Every time we see each other. It's love. Please say oh the cut I was like the sound guys talking right now? All right, Well that was good, you think, yeah, that's for something the same ship. So what's the shot told them about? That's that boomboa. It's two and a half shots that just to get right now, you got two and a half. I wat let me get up. You got right there right you can take the little cup to you can. This is drink champs

uft from me. You see they got the champagne and wine. We ain't never gonna soft. Come on, take four. Damn we did four tax I got you're ready. Let me ask some real I want to know how serious was the murder in group ship man? You know question because as a mix, look, I'm gonna tell you, I want to give you some backstory real quick, not real quick. As a mixtape, dj I was getting into death tapes from the Death Jam guys, and it said murder inc. And it was BMX jay Z and job I have

all join I'll bring him in his court. Don't bring him. I got the dad taste from cares one guys, but I got him. He's got so how serious listening? I love that was it gonna happen? Album? Was because I got tracked. I don't think it was Craford gonna fully happen four shots. It was never really gonna happen. I don't think it was ever gonna happen on number two. And I don't think it was ever gonna happen because you gotta from you take that one and you know

you gotta relax. But what's talk about hip hop history? And you were talking about shots. It didn't relaxed, but I was trying to. I was trying to construct the shots. Fans are not gonna like you right now. They definitely don't like. No, please tell me about this this hip hop history job. I don't think it was ever gonna happen to getting somebody wait wait he did? We listened, man, It was to get those records that that that you got out of us had like five. It was like,

I don't think I'm seeing five. It was like crazy, No, I mean, if you put the collective together between the X J J X J B B, but all three out together. There was probably like three maybe three, three or four because I put him on. But everybody wasn't. That was all like, I mean, maybe a little bit above each other. We were all fucking egomaniacs. Wait, what was the order? And when I was saying meo meniac list, you know, saying them two was already egomaniacs at the time.

Oh my god, he got the trophy cup. You know that the smallest shot. This is my second one. You catch up. That's awesome things. Get my outfit. You'll blame me. I don't know what he needs. That's great, man, that's just smooth. We see how far off come. It's very soon, Napkins about to smooth my head first. We're making Jim Chimp Jim's bid. It's coming soon history. Don't tell me. You gotta got your kid. We gotta that. You have to go to the back. That's okay. I don't even

think it's nap bad. Let's let's just about your bloody they i't me strapped up. Yeah, we're doing well. Get you some that's go on websites to go to the bathroom for you he said he wants to make movies. I don't know what to do that we go to graph This is alright, right, it's smoking because they're no smoke. And now it was a big shot reactionable. Oh we haven't touch t We gotta go that round o, last shot. That's the last shot all to night. I'm gonna be honest.

I don't think I miss my flight. Oh you gotta go, yo, you you cannot miss your flight. Bro Let go, do not do that. The fat draft to yesterday just drunk? Are you throwing that out there? It was thrown out the incidents in chronological order. And my friend, now I'm going, I'm going, I don't wait to go drunk. Grab what I've done as a man? Graph State friending down to Yo? Grab came to a funeral happy. I don't understand how that happen. Oh no, I got smoke. You don't want

to be mad at the funeral. I can't do the sad ship. I gotta drink smoke and leave the funeral with a different mindstick. I mean, he went to, hey, my uncle passed away. Man condolences. So when I come to see y'all, it's uplifted man, listen like a weed. What is this? What is it called? He trying to put graph onto the school to juid that. Look for what I smoke insterday? What was that? That was? That was an acid? That was a long I like that you asked yesterday. I don't know what you're doing with

no blete. You did ask it with Nori. I said, I was not so secred a long way. I'm gonna god thinking that. What's going on? You let me know when you're ready for litt stocks't be sigarettes. He did, Yeah, superst one time. Yeah, this is like top times how many times? Now? Now he's a just not he legit quit. I could I could call it's been on. It's one right here over here, over here. That's a really quick. That's a really quick. It's a big boy. I'm gonna last.

I've been round to stop lying. Now you're not saying. If you won't look, I gotta cut you know you know what you're I gotta I gotta motherfucker. Over the years, John, he's dedicated, bring like you gotta like job. Yeah, so I'll hit you and you qushy, you got you gotta you might let me tell your light that I light them. Damn, I ain't had a good lighter. Who was good light? One of your names? Take my good luck right here, right right right? We got me. You got right. I'm

not gonna yeah, I like that. I'm not gonna. I'm I gotta, I gotta si si flight. Yo, he's not gonna light to you. Brother. Let me just tell you something. You say you're not gonna make the flight. No, no, listen to all queens things. No, be honest, No, you gotta queen can do it. Queens anyway, my hand. Queens used to on that. We cut out of that color. I got to brother, this is a drink chance, baby, We got to whatever you want, whatever we want, brother,

you want damn please, but listen. We went to New York. We were supposed to have Nicki Mina. Are you out there right now? They were supposed to have Nicki Minaj and didn't we love her, our sister, our people's but didn't happen. It didn't happen, right, So we had to come out head. We had to rhyme, are you talking about now? Right now? Right now? So I called you all rule. Josh said, yo, no, we're gonna get interviews.

I'm gonna get Niki. But he said, you know, I don't do interviews, and I said, yeah, I want to get Nick for this one. I said, I need this. You told I told you. You know. I had to twitch you a little bit. It wasn't that easy. Just be clear, to be clear, I just you didn't have a good experience the first time with us. He had a fantastic I remember hanging out with you afterwards. Man, I was crazy, you will out I don't. I don't do peep that to you said that where the mother?

But it was cool the first time. Absolutely, interview eat is the thing within if you track, because this is not an interview, by the way, this is we're talking shot. We're talking the shot. It's different. But the thing with interviews, just like never mind, isn't even matter, say your mind speaking. This is your platform. That's just the case. You never

talk again and you never do an interview again. We need to document why you you're saying what you're saying, is it I would love to have, not something you go to your grave with. No, I ain't mad at that. I am mad at that. He's the media guy. Now let's just say something. Man, you know you know. You know, one of the craziest things I noticed as an artist, it's sometimes will jump to the biggest thing that's happening, right, and then you won't go to the actual thing, like

that's that's all. That's a fault as black people, like if this is the black mall, well this is the white mall. We'll actually say, you know what her mas is the white mall. Someone goes there when it's just like, you know, you should be at the black mall. They got her mas in blooming Downs. But none of us really think like and that's what I want to do. That's what I want to do with me. In my opinion, when you look at the hip hop media, or you look at any media, when you look at a sports show,

it should be Jim Jones hosting that sports show. Oh excuse me, a weather show. When I said weather, when you've seen Jim Jones doing the weather ship, like Jim Jones to control hip hop weather forever, weather forever. This is a dream. This is like, you know, I'm the only thing that laugh, I'm dead serious, Like Jade Kiss, like Jada Kiss just and he talks about basketball so much like you think God bless Mask, Kellor Ben God

Bless stephen A. Smith. But if Jada Kiss was sitting there with styles P and she and the white girl whatever white girl of it is, and they're they're doing the fucking first take what you really watch? First take that? Yeah, LETA tell you something. I'm gonna tell you some fucking real ship and I love first. I'm gonna tell you some fucking real ship. Hit don't know. Can you tell

me that? I thought about it started off with that, and I thought about doing it with me and you No, No, Mia and Zeno at the worst commence, we don't want I'm talking about that. I'm talking about that idea of a sports show. Yo. I watched fucking undisputed person every fucking day and is m what's gonna skip? If VI Pop Niggas did that same my name, it would be off the fight. I would kill it. You gotta bring

dream Chat sports. I'm sorry. He's the Big three right now and he right now, Kenny said, right now the sports I wouldn't watch. No dis fact of what I'm saying is what I'm saying is every other culture controls their media. This is how you control the actual aspect of everything. That's controlling the media. So now, all right, cool, we got drink chats. Now, drink chats your legend, you got ten years in the game, you would come over here, right, that's great. We got that part. But what about what

about the sports? What about the fucking um ship? What about all that? I think we should never get media from outside of our culture. That's that's real. You know what I'm saying. And you go about to do that, We're not going to disclose. Let God bless, you're not

gonna disclose. We're about to Apple is gonna you know, Apple, because like when I see Zane Low and I see and I see, like, you know, Kenji Lamar go to Zane Low first, and I said he was supposed to be here, go to Zane Low, And I'm like, all right, cool, I get it. Maybe they're paying a hundred and fifty yards. Maybe they're saying pay that's saying, you know what you're gonna pay for culture, bro, you can't pay it for I came in, Come on, really, well, no, you know what,

that actually makes sense? That makes sense exactly. It's it's that makes sense. I'm being completed. I don't know, and that makes sense. Even his point, his point is being made by that exactly. I'm serious, the thing can't happen. He's not but doesn't podcast zat Low is saint Low is the guy. When Drake does an interview saying Low as the guy because it's connected to Apple music, and it's like a part of that kind doesn't good something I'm doing. I don't hate nobody at all. Nothing against

gets him at Apple is none of that. But when I sit back and I say that, I said, damn, it's not the culture controlling the culture. This is Paola. And what I mean by that it's faces. It's real ship. It's real ship. If you signed the Apple, you gotta go see the y'all. The key word you said, it's control the law controst, I said, I get it. I hondestand I never even thought about saying, like what the funks.

It's a tough thing. It's a something. This is one of my back door conversations with me and you're talking the phone. Is this ain't Yeah? You got It's real though, But it's real because you know why, I'm gonna be honest. I'm really successful, Like I really did my thing, and then I chose to take this other side. So any artists where it's Kanye, they should kind of come see

me first. I think I don't need you, but I'm here for you and I understand you more than anybody else in the world, from Callanye the j to whoever to NICKI, that should come see me. You see my intros when I interviewing Nigga, I can get the best intro in the world, nigga. And sometimes if you call he coaches and then sometimes it's a nigga not get you an intro because I don't know I did better Union of Life, but I'm gonna get the intro that you did better than real life. But all right, hold on,

hold only hold on. I mean, I mean, you know it's just velvet. Is it about them coming to you first. I don't care about coming at all. I don't care about first. I don't care about not coming. I care about supporting the culture. This is the only coaches you feel like, Yo, they don't gain't coming to support drink, ain't coming to drink. Champs as the barbershop and barbershop is the opinion of the culture. I don't be honest.

You know, the first version, the first you know the first you know, the first first shot I saluted crazy was when Squiss Beats came to see me the next day because you came to my album at least party. Um. Swiss Beasts came to see me the next day and was like, y'all, you know, we came and hang out. And then the next day he went called Epic and told him one of my first interviewers I want to do is Drink Chaps. That to me was like, that

was the final That's what I what I deserved. Like nigga, I'm not know corny nigga, but I'm out here interview on niggas because I want to put other niggas you But but I don't think I think you're looking at it. You know what I'm saying. Not you had all the way which aspect and the aspect is. I don't think they have anything against drink Champs. I think the culture loved motherfucking drink Champs. I think so too every artist, everybody, they love Drink Champs. It's just that treat. It's too

right not be suited forever you all scared of. You got to understand that if if you wasn't my brother, I don't do correct. That's right. This show is let it's what I'm saying, and they got any rail on this show. You can't like people are afraid to bet. I've been telling that. I go to the bottom shop and then like, but you got what you gotta understand that your platform is your platform and it's becoming a

huge platform. But it's like it's like it's like it's like going on stern like nigger about to say that, like right now, everybody don't want to gone there or trying to hit me out, hit me up as an artist, you fuck with me? Yeah, I might know some daring on you. I'm not gonna bring it up. It's not about that at about us feel like he's about the dirt. It's not about the dirt. It's it's requestions. No aer can you ask I'm sucking honest because he's a fucking honest.

I don't thinking telling this guy guy he's not a media guy. He's fucking no, he is. And that's a problem. He's noriagor man. I don't know when I think you put on this thing is no riego man, I don't know the snicker now he's you know, he's gonna ask these type of questions because he knows the art, he knows us. He Fox for us, He's our nigger. After this with your smokes, bloodsucking, it's call on some stupid ship home phone, and we got to take that out.

Figured you say you don't. I'm not gonna let go through that with thee of nicking. He called me on my most just kill it. Killed you train over that head, killed that and you handed to come in. You gotta be honest and open, and every artist is not done. No, I'm not gonna lie graph. I'm letting it a lot to me though a couple of times, like a shot at the time, I lived in a word he said that who shot about that? Now? You know why? You know why because myster Flex called me Flex on the show. Bro. No,

i'mna be honest. I have the most honest, craziest conversation with Master Flex because you know, usually you call a person, you're just three times you right, So for for some strange reason and I called him, He's like what I was like, oh ship, I wasn't even ready. I was ready for him to like skip the call. This thing was like, what's up? How you doing? I was like, oh, Ship, I have nothing to say, like, you know, what's a flex?

And then he just been into me and it made me understand where New York City is at, why New York City is at a certain level. The Flex is one of the most honest people, and he's reminds me of you for me, because you're the most stuffing this thing. I know. Relax, it's a great thing. If we're gonna go there, I'm gonna tell you something right now because everything you guys did. I come here and I'm on the sideline and it's everything New York. But mind you, guys,

hip hop is bigger than motherfucker New York. Definitely not the case I was trying to make. I don't know, I'm just the tip of my shoulder. It's the tip of my shoulders. I'm trying to let you guys know. Let's yeah, God damn, but my chip is not that far less hard ship, you know what. Actually, I wanted to ask job Yea, what demographics of the United States? Did you realize what's fun with you other than New York? I didn't because I feel like it's like I didn't

break in New York. Where did you break really and did you think it? And let me tell you not see you you know, because you know this ship. You know what I'm saying, I'm a DJs. So we were so when I first came out with how Holland ship it, we wasn't really getting that that that kind of love, you know what I'm saying. On on the East Coast. So we went out to l a power Power on five. My brother was uh Demea was the program director at the time. Even Demesa was the program director. Demesa champion

that record. Demesic took Holla holla and fucking just destroyed it on the West Coast. Hence you see I'm in the video. I'm on the West Coast in the Six Boys Valley and I'm like, yo, these nis showing me the last I'm going up video. You know what I'm saying. So Leo gets on the phone. Know this Wist Coast wasn't for you. This was this was us shaking whatever we can pen guy in the world go real quick. Oh no, but yeah, we was trying to get it popping weeb we could get it popping. East Coast wasn't

playing my ship. We went out West Power on five demesic big shots dimension. He showed us to love and started banging the wrecord. So now the mrs banging the record, let's start spreading. You know how, I go West Coast and started playing Oakland down the sad frand now you know how that goes, just like East Coast, you know, Baltimore jr DC, same type of ship. So Leo basic Corter to Tracy at the time, Tracy clad, and he's like, yeah, Tracy,

how the fuck are you not playing job route? He's breaking on the West and he's an East Coast artist. Dagn Next thing you know, we start getting them spins on night Oven because it's it's true. It's like, yo, how are you letting the West Coast breaking East Coast? At this fact? We gave y' all these breads. We're right here in yr backyard and eatat the about the game. I say it's too because me, like, I watched y'all coming up and didn't even know that type of fact.

But in my when I started grinding, dude, trying to push records, you had to leave New York. That the ship popping too, because New York wasn't supporting New York. That was later that's that's actually a thing. Now to hear that, then I might have been auction to the ship. I didn't know that that friendship that im how much they did not support the friend for my time broken up the states. They didn't break here. Niggers didn't break here. I mean here. I didn't come here. That's why I

had such a big love. And you know, I was like, Yo, you know what, I'm gonna go out West make my album. Ship. It's the fibers out there, they banging my records. I did's a death Row connection as well, let's be real. No, no, no, I didn't. I mean there was I'm just saying that was election. Oh no, at that time at all. No, we didn't know sugar or nothing about that time was wait, this is my second album, went out west and we got a clear At some point Shot tried to sign you.

Yeah he did, he did. He did that. He tried to. He's shugaring gud. He was cool, and it was a whole lot going on, and should tried to. Fucking did you buy your assets ful? Jesus heard heard that was about with my six seven six seven Continental suicide do it? That was my ship. But now see shouldn't never No, that was the rule, man, This is why drink. It's

just like old that was do everywhere everybody. I was nervous in the times I lived in that story to you and then he was hanging out with Shook every weekend, and I would see you on Saturdays and be like, Yo, what's going on. I've seen him at the career. I mean, I don't know what happened. Like everything when we lived down, I'm blocking each other the slope niggas like we was on the same team. Yeah, yeah, basketball, do you remember that bust niggas that everybody came over like the rapper

niggas can't play? We fixed them. We had we had game players, so let we had game player like fixing flipping. We used to lower the rims were done on these knicks. What's gonna say that part? What the FOTA were joking on niggers? They nigger. We weren't Larry Larry. Yeah, listen, I'm not lower the river and we want to do Now that's a class class classic broh Man. Yeah, we gotta you gotta come by the crib you're doing on you got so many cribs burning man, don't do that, bro,

you're dot. What't you going around? A lot of burk going around. They just burned around his house. I don't got nothing. I live in a small don't get the ring. You don't get the ring. They yo, you know what. They jacked my They ran up in my car, and the ring caught the whole Join the ring, the Ring, The Ring joined, naza Is invested in the ring. Oh yo, love been a big bag for We're okay. So they caught the homie jumping in my car, jacking my ship a nice into the yard and then you know, the

front of my crib. And then the ring people call me like, you know, we're gonna blast this, even a blast. We'll catch his motherfucker. And they did a whole video. They put them they zoomed on his face. Brings good money, yo, shout out the ring man ring. You can pay himself. You can mother nothing. Killing wasna hit and fun. That motherfucker that checked my car, Fuck you bitch. When it came out, I'll kill you can't kill nobody if you don't know. It's like, no, we're in a state where

I kill him. It's gonna stop. We're you gonna say it. We're gonna say it. Shall your ground saying, no real talk. It's lucky for him and lucky for me that I didn't see that video. What happened. I want to kill this ass. Goddamn that motherfucker. Yeah, but it wasn't wasn't for you to die. Listen, my wife, now we can see everything. I want to killed his ass. Ya got ready. I gotta see what the fun is up. Yeah, I got some other ship, but it's like I don't learn

about the guard. Was the first thing that took a picture with you when you came home from jail. She was like, no many notes to me? What you say? Said what you said? Right now. I was the first thing that took a picture with him when he came from jail. Let me just tell you something. Here's a crazy ship job. Rude came from jail, so he tried to post the picture before me. He had to relax. I said, Rude, stop. I got the weight and I posted it and TMC took my ship. But then they

credited you say, that's that's beautiful. You know what, that's a beautiful man, because you know you're one of the niggas that I was. I was scared, like when you was in jail and you called me like I was scared. Not scared, not not saying you are like like you know I suck on or nothing like that. I was just scared because I knew you didn't be long man. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I knew. And when you called me, I would offer you money and you like, nigga,

I'm good. I'm like yo yo, you You're like a good nigga. Everything good. Every time I was, everything good, stand up nigga. Like you know when I went to when I went, I was in state. When I was in the state, I was in PC, you know, because that's how I stay. Do you if they put you in what they call it involuntary famous, Yeah, involuntary protective custom because the state fields they have to protect you. They don't want that to happen to you because you're

high profile. Case you go to fas two fussy your options and your motherfucker stay in uh solitary confinement, you know, basically in a fucking box. One you could come out, and that's what the FEDS do. I chose to come out and be with anybody, and and and and and live I think it still all time. No, no, no, no, no, it's once a time. No no, no, jail, it's not something.

Let me say something from my young bloods coming up man, my brother jail, there's not nothing just wax ship man that said something you don't want to go through, but if you do have to be there, just no, it's not the indoor. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. You can go there and and and and elevate yourself. Learn a lot of things. Read a lot of books. I read more books in jail than I've ever read my life.

You know what I'm saying. It's like, you know, so usually if you are there, use your time, wises be there and and be making You know, it's an old wax saying and cliche ship and you know, do the time and little time do you ship? You know what I'm saying. But it's real ship. You know what I'm saying, Like you know what you threw there? Just hope to be there. The person that I know, um fantastic. I've never seen you down. People received see that, but I've

never seen you down. But in your honest personal opinion, if you could have did anything better in your life, what whatever. Then you know, I don't. I don't regret anything. I don't. I don't think I could have done anything better. And that's honest. So, you know, because people like to look at things that I could have did better, because they want to dissect my life. I looked at I

look at beginnings and ended. Right. Everything in the middle is you know, beginning, support kids from alage queens, you know, with with this is a gram saur and ship. What grand ended, I don't know. But in between that, I've been able to amass so decent lifestyle for myself and my family, put my you know, kids through school and you know, my daughter through college, and provide for for everybody. You know. Sure, those are some of the things to me.

Those those a big wins, you know what I'm saying in life. You know, people look at the financial ship or whatever, but the biggest win is I'm in the household with my kids and with my family. Those are the big wins out there. Yeah. I just I just I'm just had. I'm just I'm just happy to be able to be able to be in my kids lives in the way that I am to being allowed and

to mentor them and teach them. You know that that ship to me is like what I want to project out to the to the to the public, you know, being being a good father, good you know whatever. I've been a fucked up nigga a lot of years, you know what I mean. So don't get me wrong, I ain't being pretty appreci I'm just telling you what I was saying. And elevated too. You know what I'm saying. I've been in that other nigga, and that other nigga is dead dead to me. You know what I'm saying.

I'm a different guy. I just wanna I just want to you know, elevating and and and and make money and you know, just let me say that you're a good person. Ship. All this ship is like I love. I love to hear him home. First day he came home, I hate you. You hit me, I'll forget right. I pull up and I look at your house like damn, It's like, I'm not bad room, not bad. Yeah, you know what he says to me, like this is first day home. He's a get my movie roommate, right, Damn.

I looked at this thing. I don't want to say that. I was like yo, I'm like yo, I'm looking at this thing, but I can't say that this is this is my nigg I'm like, enjoy me and Home said, you know you just keep it real me I'm little roommate. And I looked and I was like, I didn't know that. I was just like we was in the moving room. So you know it's tray. Let me say some more right then, I think about when I think about, you

know what I see. You know, how I lived the life style I've been wherever and my kids and I look at that ship. Is that's the fucking way life is supposed to be for everybody. My man was just telling me some about it's supposed to be. It is it's supposed to post. We're supposed to have free education, free healthcare. Everybody's supposed to be, you know, afforded the

opportunity to be successful. And when I look at the life that we all live, not just me, because you live a good life to know, you know what I'm saying now, a lot of bit mom, I see it, but it's good. I love this at you, you know what I'm saying, But it's good. But what I'm saying is that is the difference between without far parents went through and what we're going through, what we're teaching our kids. We're teaching our kids like nigga, this is this is

all for you. You you should have this. You understand black privilege. This is a new ship we started. Do you ever looked black motherfucking privilege? Do you ever looked at your kids and it was like, damn, nigga, do you understand what I had to do? I look at them all the time and I try to explain it to but they don't understand it because they didn't have to go can understand it and can't understand it. And you know what, how many how many kids you don't

want to understand it? Cony kids? You know where everybody's supposed to. You got twins, twins and the girl I love what he is just started turn thing. So you're starting to start lives. Now. Let me ask you a question to the mic that didn't help, but anything, I'm I'm sorry. You also have to better like that and better? Who are you more scared for? I'm most scared for my daughter, to be honest, because I mean, I'm close to both of them, and I get them both all information.

I quiet and try to teach you the best I can, but I just want to move as smart as you can and not get tricked by none of the dumb ship. My son, I feel he can handle himself, even tho I'm scared him too, but only on like the small he's so small. Scared for the boys because the society and the police or what what you almost I'm you have a smart daughter, That's why. No, No, my boys are.

It's smart too. I'm just scared for them because you see women things are being laid out and and you know things are being looked upon as these We're gonna help women do better things. These black men, it's like we're like niggers on like nobody was like like it's it's like white men, white women, black women. I don't know how it goes and far as race, but I'm gonna throw black the black man and man, I mean black, the blacks that they don't fear in Black women people

women and black we're not either. Man. We're like the loader talk like like talk. Nobody gives a not doing good right now on the Trump industry, right y'all like y'all come after the better with were loves. The fucking braverybody talk. I'm putting the ship through us under the bus, somebody, man. But what I'm just saying, I just feel like if we don't help out black men too, a lot of a lot of things, we'll mind you, mind you. I got the little last something something something to be said

real quick. Because we talk all the time, we're talking about racing and in the city. I don't think it's gonna have been a trick chance, like we gott this thing now we're talking about all the time we claimed to talk about all those we don't get deep. We don't get deep. We'll talk about Donald Truck. But I have to always say something like that, which I think when we talk about Latinos period, we are multi ethnic Latinos. We have black, brown, absolutely everything. I was just all

mixed in mixed cup. We're all mixed world Cup. I need one World Cup. I haven't heard it. I love more around. Ain't cutting embarrassing from embarrassing. I love, I love. I'm taking up shampatney questions, ruling you out of here. Come on, come on, you know what can I add this to? Like we still recalled that fact. I think like as a um like um from the kids and even meet us into y'all. It's inspirational ship to a

big degree because I'm feel like me growing up. I was really for the underdog or the street nigger because we never really had a chance going to school. Nobody told you to be a fucking boss. He told you how to feel out of application to get a job. Why I listen to independent niggas that made themselves self made. The ship always motivates me because nobody taught you how to herself made. You don't learn that anyway. You got to teach yourself how to be self made. But I

learned how to time my tie on YouTube. My nigga, my father was there. How do I tie this time? I've learned on YouTube YouTube how to fight. I how to fight by getting funck up. Nobody was just lose a couple of times and big this sh out. You know what I'm saying, like real tall. So when I heard certain ships, I get into standing still, Rolex, I can't justice gave it to my man sick. You remember sick, So I'll give it a sick and sick his rischst pause. So when they get it back to me, I didn't

know how to do justice. So I google it on YouTube. I got another story kind of embarrassing like that, like, let's listen to ship my first rolex. I don't know how to set it that ship that had the wrong time for the dumb long because I didn't want to tell anybody out to sells set this motherfucker. Man, it's just what DI wasn't I said, Damn, I I didn't feel confident to go say I don't how to set this rolex much. I had the wrong time for the dumb long, like I said, funk, I got the wrong time.

Maybe that's what time to check our phone. I shouldn't aways have the run. I don't don't worry about it better, I shouldn't the dingy put it in. Tell me I ain't you gotta put on the wine. I have to learn, you know, I'm trying to sit next myself in the wine winter and the wine dirt. I not the one I never put relaxed job another one. You don't me to pay something one job roll? Man? You know man, I love you, my brother, I love you. You come to my club to night with me to that I'm

gonna be honest. I'm not the club for for hours. I got to telling to the club, you gotta, I'm going to have a fight, you gotta, let's get it. Let's I don't want to do that. I don't know forty years old. Well, they don't fight nobody. You don't know brown cocaine. I don't know if I like that. The gotta tell out story about ball ball praise, I'm saying the same, and then hated my story. Yeah, yeah, did that come out yet? Yeah, Bobby Roscher came out light up. Let me get him wet. I'm not gonna

think it was one wet. Let me be wet now, said I pick up tomorrow birthday, every birthday, MoMA some first moto Mo. That's mad, don't know. I was like, listen, so John, what's up baby? When you think about yeah, you saw jay Z in the beginning, Yeah, would you think that jay Z? We have dreads. Bob Marley, He's like, he'll even the Yeah, you ain't teacher oil. Jason full True a small, sticky stupid to honest more. You know

what I'm saying. And Jake got so much money right now, they don't give a fun like do what of course you're here order it, you know. J j j J. Jay's like, he's like, fucking man, I think, let me, let me give you, let me give you my real thought. I need to and I'm gonna get my head in my real thought. He's serious right now, I'm taking glass from my head because that's you know that that takes away from seriousness, my thoughts. My real thought is sorry, buddy.

I think that Jay and Beyonce uh doing something really amazing and impactful for our culture generation on you. And I think Jake growing his head is a subliminal message. I get it. They're gonna no, They're gonna black ship mm hmm. I love, I love. I love what I'm seeing from them because you gotta understand something, Nord and I love Lebron James not because you gotta understand something.

See throughout history, you've had those that stand up, and you've got those to stand down, and and and and motherfucking what I'm seeing from Jay and Beyonce and and and Lebron James in each type of big I kind of motherfucking figures applauding that. I guess black annoyed for that. I think we should. I think we should make annoyed because because I think athletes and artists before them have been scared to do so and selling ten millions sold

fifteen thirty thirty millions, that's a million. That's crazy, dirty fucking Would you have when you have what you have there? Huh ten million? Death James biggest artists in the world, Kaepernick lils when you have nailed at that at that moment, you know, that's that's tough, man, And that's why I employed. That's that's something I employed a plug color capper because you know, but but you no, no, let me get that third. You know, I'm no, I'm not I would

you know it's a tough thing to way. It's a tough thing to way because some people fight straight. Some people fight from the inside, some people fight from the outside. You I didn't get the question each plus it would you have nails? And what you have nailed? What you have nailed? You got Timber, it's time for you, like calor Kaber, what do you need? Like capern Would you have said you know what what ca? Yeah? Yeah, you got your ti yeah technl No, I would not have

enough running. There is a number of I'm not listen to me, take care of my family and everybody. Y'all actually that I'm gonna tell you they can funk. Y'all know not no, but I don't know. But oh, I'm just saying, what what what they're doing in this time and this ever, what we're going through it it's like unprecedented. We we we haven't seen artists of this magnitude. You've never seen Michael Jackson stand up before. I'm gonna say,

you can't say. I'm gonna say because Mike, Mike's kind of stands but not like this, not like Lebron, not like Jay, not like be not like the way they're doing it. They're very about blacks. Also, they did a trade mr. Yes, that document is amazing. This is what I'm saying. It hasn't been doing this yea too. And that is important. That's very important because I think for

the next generation coming up, it brings it brings about bravery. Yeah, the motherfucker's ain't scared to say, Yo, you know what, it's okay for me to be unapologetically black. And if you see the way they're recording these cops violating blacks, the people that are recording the Talking Ship, they feel more stand up because it's going on right now, you see it that you see me. Look, I'm halfway done.

I'm not I'm getting here. I'm like an prob. What's it called grand You're coming to the should to night, But be honest, John, Yeah, oh my god, I feel I'm so I'm rink drink let ship, bro, this thing ain't coming. He's going down. He's going with the graph. Listen, let's listen, not drinking penalty keep you you put that? Who was your segway from the political ship? Yo? Yeah? We went from like gotta stop this bend. So this is why this is why I don't do interviews, you know,

this is why you do dream chams. Though I never noticed that's what he's said. Yo, Job, We appreciate you had drink champs. But let me just tell you something, man, John, you are the part of the beginning of dream chance and we thank you. Thank you. What the fun is Joe here? You know we don't want to want My life was weird? Yeah, there's about I got that's like, that's cool. Came on, I got fives of chilling that I'm trying to be this fat though this job rule,

the Jada kiss and this kid that's amazing. That's the first you know that that episode, so it's one of the Pimol dream episodes. For Drink, I think I look like ridiculously high at this moment. Don't you know you look high when the glasses on. By the way, who God, I love you, my brother, I love you too. Let me let's tell you something, but you to Yeah, you like my life like seventeen times? Did whatever said? Eighteen you got it. I'm gonna take your road, think of us.

I'm gonna be honest, your road jas was the old blood. But Job you still there and the test of times, still in the w hotel with us, right Yo? That episode Drink chance, man, I still can't remember if John came on time was on? Time? Can't be on this Canot episode. Let's be honest about the episode. It was supposed to be two episodes. I don't know. No, No, I'm no, I'm telling you, I'm talking. It's supposed to be a Job episode and Jakis episode. But it was

good together. But y'all ended up coming at the same time. It was better together. No, it was amazing because the thing from me I'm a mixtape DJ, so to me, that's a mixtape. Let me tell you that was class. That was like a collapse. No, it was amazing. For interview, that was like some new we don't do interviews, the drink chance before the conversationation, collaboration, that was like a new like kind of segue, like okay, no, that's amazing. They got jobs and that's what it was. No, Yeah,

that was our first double up, first up. And but that's nice because Yo, you realize because that's like a collaboration. It's like Yo, Ris brings and then the stories collide and the stories but we holding him and the Ferrari reason and he's kind of weird, bro got weird, got weird, and he got weird with you, be honest, yo, but you got three different He got artists on the panel that all got history. Honest. That night he took advantage of me because right, yeah, you went, you got weird

on this man. He was like, you got super Ferrari, but I was there Ferra little sent kind of weird, brot the weird. And then just thinking when les you was right street to thirty cents, Yes, baby Fried, like I don't know what do you think I am? That's right, but I'm not been with this and juice. You have another level. You had the other level. Man, alright, so let's do one more shot by ba cool and the whole boo. I did a real man, though I can't did a real black room. Let's do one more boom

move I can't bother. Oh my god, you're y. You gotta really do this, my good, let's get it. That's your fun job. It's your phone. I'm at your mad maid. Pass me up to your mac maid. You this is you're front of the boom boom boom movement. Man time baby, but I'm mad. Oh full mag man? What up? Though? This ship working? Yeah? No, it's a good drink, all right, that's you can't go all the way, baby, my amazing, my maid. That's that's good. But yo, goddamn, I got

you listen drugs right now. I'm gonna be slurry. That's okay, okay, I think that a bitch. That's okay, y y'all. I'm moderate with ship man. Legend job said the last night I sttle little brother a little Christmas. It's my last one. Let's go all right of here. After this, I should have smooth. I should have sucked you up because it's so smooth, like cool. Yeah, what a great story. But a cold with a kid? Was you good? Lady? Amazed?

Like after you performed with Jen that's by the way, you killed that I shouldn't perform with Jay And it was just like it was like a job time. Everybody was just like I see every every leg and I also it was a part of me that was U. My niggas deserved. Thank you, my nigga. And because she had, he could have been like complained, Vin you could You're gonna either this I complain about. I'm just saying. I'm just saying, we'll hit me out, y'all. So you're still there.

You still test of time and you relaxed. I love my nigga. And it's no that spill ship. Niggas would have lost their month. It's good. It's good. I have fun, man, I have fun. Right, I'm gonna tell you, tell me it's my last the list of last story. I don't want because because we do, I'm gonna say no, no, no, now becoming infant. This s shot? What what the last shot? He said? The ash shot? That shot a shot I mean j Lomaz. It was fantastic. That was amazing. I

got your problem. What happened? Okay, so that was amazing? No, no, no, I want to tell y'all how amazing as was. The ass was amazing that you too, I'm sorry from drunk to rock ahead stop me. You know what I want to say about the shot. This is the funniest ship that the most. That's how it came about. So during rehearsals, I'm noticing, God, this is gonna be like this big as shoot. Amazing. Now he's not you know, she's she's doing like you know, she she comes in front and

she does asked. So I'm noticed, nervous. Look, I don't know an nobody's there, a bro noticed. It's just as I'm noticing that they're gonna do a nice as shot, a close up as shot. But then what I realized this, I'm like over here performing why the ass shot is going on? And it's a long as shot. It's like long it's you insert your something that I'm certain myself,

I don't think I be afraid. Listen, man, I haven't get my characters like but but no, that's amazing, amazing, I said, yo, I said, this is gonna be an amazing shot because they're focusing on this as shot. But I'm like doing rehearsal. I'm like over year. So I'm like, fuck, they're not gonna see me. So I said, you know, we do the live thing. I'm saying to my mom. When we do the live thing, I notice isna, I know this is gonna be the one shot. I gotta one shot. And so I got into one shot and

there's the there you go. There you have. That's good genius. That's alchemy right there. My wife is she's cool. Man. She loves she, she loves me. I love her the death man. Yeah, that's my dog man. You know so you man, it's good shot. I love your wife too. Man, we gotta get the wife together. Yeah, where's your wedding ring? Any bring Prince bred on right now? Hey listen, I got the nak jolder, okayn't want to get too fancy the next time. Next time, you don't switch where ring on? Man?

I always right away? I see it tonight tonight because you know, put that on it. Though I don't know what teping general will mean anything? Right? Always on because you like to Yeah, I don't know who is mean? Yeah? Same, they have a shot there I'm proud to know you. I'm proud same here, my brother, same here, and my brother. I love you man, same probably my brother. Then being accorded the ship with you. I don't even know what

that means, but I say here we still test of time. Yeah, we stood here and there's no person a while to be problem to represent. Yo. Let me take you something. I gotta keeping you work. Literally, you won't want that. I'm talkable and we were leaving it on. Oh my god, I don't think I could ever have funked up at this shows. I'm here for it though. Yeah, I'm do Come general, men, all right, I'm after this. So we're talking about that shot and that's a rat, it's a rock,

it's a right. No, no, no, he gotta say, come to dinner with Comodo. Comodo. It's a union. You got me, Commodo. It's a little shook. Don't do that. Yeah, be honestly, I don't think it's fot. I ain't really want to end without media. Shot, No ship, many, no cool, Nope, I have no one shots. You gotta from him. My last shot right here, it's tiger. You. Let me tell you something though. This is the genius of drinks. Dad just niggers drunk. I'm drunk, I'm out of it. I'm

a little on shot. What shot shot, John? What shot shot? I shot? Shot? What shot? You can't go back back? Get shot? Get you shit? You guy drinking up this out. He's like smoke, Yeah, we live. Wants you gotta relax, my awesome you you lie, Lie is over. You have trying to say that's it, that's it, that's