Episode 114 w/ Baron Davis

E fnther drink chap mark you. And right now we got one of the illest basketball players, one of the best people alive. And he's been doing movies. I've seen him in What's the movie was in? Um? What Adam salm Adam sald of Money was one of the movies. Yeah, let's make some so so so. The crazy thing is you're one of these people that transition, meaning you actually had a luxurious NBA career and then you actually transition to do other things. How did you come up with that? Uh?

You know, I'm from l A, so Okay, Uh may area. We talked about college. Um, but you know, born and res in led South Central and then I went to private school and uh Sta Monica. So I always my mother always tell me, like, you know, have a backup play and have a backup plan. So I always wanted to like make movies and you know, tell stories and things like that, especially because you know, it was like the stories that kept me alive, and like, you know, that's how that's how I got to I felt that's

how I got to the NBA. You feel now nowadays the NBA it seems a little soft. It seems like like you know, back then, the Knicks had beef with the Balls, and we knew that when they when the Bulls came in town, we're gonna rough them off. They're gonna get roughed up. Like Downadays the NBA seems like if you like this is technical found, it's not. It's

not the best now. I mean yeah, but I mean when you think about it, though, like the game got evolved, right, the game get way faster, and so you can't play like you did back in the day, right, can't be know Charles Oakleys, because then it wouldn't be no Lebron James and no, Kevin, like, you can't play. You can't play that way. So you know, I kind of came in at the late late stage of that with you know, dudes were still fighting like chunk them and all that

as well. Yeah, but you gotta elbow back, you know what I mean. And it's like, you know, that's how you earn your respect. You feel what I'm saying. And it was more so like a tough thing or a respect thing. And you know, really it was like about the vets, you know, just like your older brother kind of like bullying you as a kid. You feel what I'm saying, and so you learn a lot through that. You feel you think you could could have survived in

today's NBA. Oh yeah for something, because you think it's weaker. No, no, no, I can play right now because it's just more suited towards the game that you know I could play. You know what I mean. I can shoot, I can pass it, I can drive, you know, I can still defend. I can still and it's faster, so you're moving up and down the court and it's not a lot of contact.

And so when I used when I played, you know, it was always like I had to playing a post a guard, a bigger guard, you know, play more than just being a point guard. And so now in today's there, I could probably just be a point guard and be cool with that. Are like a guard out there, Fat Joe had told me the other day, Right, I'm hanging out with Fat Joe, and Fat Joe says, Yo, being an athlete and being a radio personality is pretty much the same thing. And I'm like, Fat Joe, what are

you talking about? I feel like you're retarded. And then he goes, he goes, look, if your athlete, you canna wake up the next day. You'll play for Charlotte and then the next day being l a Clippers and then the next day And he's like that, So I didn't get it at first. Now, have you ever been traded to a place where where you didn't want to be? Yeah, let's talk about it. Let's oh man, Uh so you

never know. Look the code thing about it, dog is you never know you're getting traded because you see people get trade you like, damn, I got ain't it done? Like damn, that's suck up, you know what I mean? And they're like, you don't never know you get traded until you're like, oh shick, like and uh, I was in the locker room. And so Coach Benney down Negro. After you know, we had just a Live City and All Star weekend. I was still kind of playing hurt

Blake was still the Clippers. So Coach Benney down Negro was like, man, look you you you brought us this whole live city, this whole thing, like you know, like you've city. We're gonna, uh, We're gonna set you out, you know what I mean, and like let you kind of like, hell, you know your grandma done things like that. You know what you're going through, you feel I'm saying,

So we're just gonna set you out. You know. They used the next couple of games on the road, let the young guys play because we feel like we got enough next year to like be able to like do something. I'm like, all right, cool, so you know, okay, see game coming. He's like, well, you know, I said I was gonna set you out, but you know, you know my playing, I'm like I don't, but like, damn dog, you just told me I was hurt to sit out.

I played. So then the next game, we're in New Orleans and he's like, I'm thinking, like, all right, I played it, okay, see I'm gonna play. He's like, no, You're gonna sit out. And he was like, you don't even have to come out. I was like, all right, I ain't gonna come out. You know, I don't want to sit on the bench. You know what I mean to be hurt. I'm back in New Orleans, you know

what I mean. I want to hear that. So I'm thinking he's doing me a favorite man Like half time, come in, somebody like, yo, dog, you heard you getting trade. I'm like, hell, no, you're I'm just saying that. I'm just sitting the back, chilling wait for us to get on the plane. You feel me, ain't get nothing. I'm just sitting in the back, you know, stretching, watching the game,

and I ain't hearing nothing. Hear nothing. Then now you know the game started rolling around after the game, and then people like yo, like you know, like so quiet and ship like, wait, so are you saying that your teammates new? You know, I don't think they knew. I don't even nobody no no that that at that time, the only people knew it was the team, right and the coach and so my teammates didn't know, and then

a reporter saying something like yeah. Like the report was like, yo, you gotta call your agent because they're trying to trade you to Cleveland and Cleveland and had Lebron was like, oh, I can't stand in and go somewhere else, you know what? No, not that, no, no, no, because they traded me in the number one pick, which was Kyrie Cleveland. Oh so that's how Cleveland got the number on pick. That's how

they got Kyrie. Now I'm sitting in the locker room like all right, well ship, let me put on my ship. And the next you know, I'm like, man, I'm getting traded in my agent Like hell yeah. Now describe that. Describe how it is being like in one city one day and then the very next day you gotta go to another city. You gotta get along with people that you was just beefing with, right I mean? Or is

that not really how the NBA? Sometimes sometimes I was like, you know, but you gotta you know, you gotta go to work with the same person. You know what I'm saying. It really like it ain't really know real beef, you know what I mean? Like everybody really got no beef with each other, you know, but what's this guy now?

Alonzo Ball? Is that because the very first day, right, it comes in the NBA and this guy comes straight up to him and it was like I forget what he did Beverley, And to me, it was like, that's like me welcome in a new artist hip hop. It's like, yo, look nigga, you could you could get money, but it's gonna be rough. How did you feel when you see that moment? Uh? I kind of liked it for Alonzo, you know, for him, it was just like now it's like automatically, that's what it is, Homy, you know what

I mean. So from he gonna get everybody best, you know, Patrick Beverley gonna be Patrick be He's like, you know, like that's how that's how he programmed. So it ain't no, he ain't gonna play nobody no different, you know what I mean. And and you know, and and play that style no different. But with this rookie, you know, National TV. You know what I'm saying, Like, that's kind of like if I'm a rookie and I'm him, that's kind of how I like that. I want that because I'm gonna

remember you, and I always remember that moment. So once I get the edge, I'm gonna kick your ass every time. You know what I mean. I'm gonna dog you out once I get better than you, once I get stronger than you. Once you can't do that to me no more, I'm gonna dog you out. So you know, it's just a matter of that ship make him want to work harder, because that's a measuring stick. You feel what I'm saying.

It's like day one, that's a measuring stick. Like he a dog, he a wolf, Like I gotta shake him off. But is that how the NBA used to be, like when you come into the league. If you yeah, that's yeah, that's my That's been always been my mentality. You know, I think that. I think the younger kids is different, you know what I mean, like because you know, they're judged differently, you know what I mean. They're not judged by diving on the floors, you know what I mean,

the heart and the hustle. It's more about the stats, to position and playing a role doing other things, you know what I'm saying. And so because they're scoring a lot of points, it's more so like when you watch guys, everybody kind of playing in patterns, you know what I'm saying. So it's not a lot of isolation. It's not a lot of post uff and things like that. It's a lot more ball movement and more and more they play

fast break or secondary fast break basketball. Now, let's get to the let's get to the elephant in the room. I know, me and you was on the same level. You don't even know. Do the Knicks have a chance. It's Paul Zingus. What's that nigga name. He's nice. It's nice, Paul Zingus, the fucking unicorn. No, he's nice. He's nice. And my money tell you something that he's for some he's for sure. He's for sure. And why are they doing better betterless since Metal left? I can't. I can't

believe this. You know, one is earlier in the season, you know what I mean. Phil Jackson's an asshole. Let's just throw that out there. Uh, you know a little bit. I don't know Phil Jackson's asshole. Yeah, I mean I definitely think that Phil Jacks. I'm gonna tell you I'm Jackson's I see Phil Jackson walking down the street. It's just me and him. And I had to look at him. I felt like I couldn't take him. He felt like he was out of the you know what I mean,

just so I looked, just out of touch. You're married, and I said, just think of my win right now. I said, Phil, I want to funk you up. I said you better, I say, cool. Wait, Actually, remember when you told me that Phil Jackson, I said he was dope or not? And I looked at himself. Feel you fucking up? And he looked at me and said, look, little nig But dude, we got a chance. As a Nick fan, listen, I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna be honest. Let me finish my statement. You will get more. You

hit whatever you want. Listen. As a Nick fan, we've been disappointed for twenty decades. We just want one chance. You know. As a person who wears Jordan's, I really hate that man because every year I felt like we're gonna make it, and then he would hit the last shot, you motherfucker, pipping everybody, pipping um. He lives in Miami. Now I see him. I've probably never spoke to him. I probably never said hot because the bulls they just

killed our career. Look am a lying. Look you're feeling us. Dude. Do you think then, do we have even a slight bit of a chance? Um? No, honest, I don't know. I always say the Knicks have a chance because it's New York and and the heart and the energy of the city. Like no, no, no, I'm being real like the fans. The fans is crazy, right, and the fans can ultimately become the sixth Man. You feel what I'm saying.

But I think that just putting New York and just to ne and just like it has to be like it got to be a fabric, you know what I mean. They got to be an understanding that you know, this is the Knicks, This is how the Knicks rocking and rolling this you know what I mean? And like you know, it has to be like um no matter if like one, you can't just keep putting trying to put pieces together, You feel what I'm saying, because that's gonna Do you think when they traded Metal that was a bad more? Um?

I don't think. I don't. I don't necessarily think it was a bad movie. I don't think it was. I thought it was pis. I mean, everybody was pissed. You know what I mean? I think everything Puerto rican man, but at this trade quarter weekend, Yeah, he's Puerto rican man. You don't. You don't trade Puerto Ricans. That's not the way it works, right, drags on. I I just think that it was. He's my friend. Man, I'm just now we didn't already like that's it. That's the way it worked.

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have to, you know, with the Mellow thing. It's like, I'm not mad at that train because it was kind of like I was coming to. And if you can't honor somebody who's like or or figure out a way to make it right, you know what I mean, or make it right for him, then let him do what he needs to do, you know what I mean, he

towards the end of his career. Let him go get a shot, to go play with somebody else, you know what I mean, Be happy and do what he want to do, because right now, it's not Mellow's fault, you know what I mean, It's not you know, it's it can't be all on one player, you feel what I'm saying. So it's about like, where is the system that protects the players? When you look at Golden State, you know what I mean. You're always talking about Golden State State.

You know, I'm just saying, go to the State Warriors, or or when you talk about Cleveland, Yeah, you talk about le Broma. It's like the Cleveland Cavaliers. They got a system, you know what I mean. Not the system is in play to win San Antonio. They the system is in play to win. You come here, you're playing a certain way. Have you ever been to a system where you didn't agree with the system but you got traded there? Uh, everybody drink chapters. Everywhere I got traded

was like, uh, starting in New Orleans. When I got traded to go to State, you know, they was like dead. It was like Night of the Living Dead. You know what I'm saying. I didn't want to be there, But at the same time, it was just like damn, like these dudes walking around like zombies, Like, Hey, we want to play basketball and I've been hurt, so like we

gotta do something. Jay Rits the only one who really wanted to play, So I was like ship man, It's like Night of the Living Dead and so I didn't want to be there, but you know, turn it around, I guess. You know, once we got the bright coach and it seemed to like start working, you know what I mean. And then when I got traded to Cleveland, I didn't want to be in Cleveland, you know what I'm saying. Kyrie was still in high school and Lebron had just left, so they had come off like losing

twenty three straight. So it was like it was like it was not a great place. But I went to Cleveland made the most out of it, you know what I'm saying, and like, you know, they turned it around after that, you feel what I'm saying. So it didn't really matter. Like I think, when I went to the Clippers, I was probably the worst kind of system that I want. And you was under Sterling. Yeah, because let me just tell you something. I'm gonna be honest with you guys.

I was trying to get an apartment in l A. My credit is horrible. Nobody approved me. The only building that approved me was the Sterling building because you take cash. Because I hate my manager and I'm like, yo, Bob, I'm not gonna see here. He's like, you can't move to Donald Slles building Like what He's like, that's like moving in the trunk And I'm like, oh, yeall did everything beside my fucking name to the fucking check And he's like you can't not move it? And he called

um Magic Johnson a nickna? Like how do you call? How did everybody could call nigga? I just feel like Magic get the pass? Yeah, like you ain't apposed to go Like he's like, he's not supposed to be a nigger? Like I went too far? How you how you calling Magic a nigga? Like when did when did you as a person who played for NBA team, as a person who played and know the politics, when you heard that, were you shocked or what you like? This is normal. I wasn't shocked at up when I when I got there.

What shocked me is when I got there and when I did my press conference, it was almost like the movie The Devil's Advocate. As soon as I come out of the press conference, the head of the chief dude to like communications saying, hey man, he may say something to you. You know what I mean, I know you're from here. He may say something to you that may be out of pocket or something when he was playing

for the Clippers. After I announced after that game the speech and whatnot, because I didn't know, you know what I mean. I'm like, y'all, I'm coming back to I'm about to get it rocking. I'm gonna turn it around. You feel them saying like, no matter what, like I'm not thinking about who the owner is. I know a bunk about who the owner is, and so they're warning you about that. He said, Yo, he about to say he gonna say some crazy shot. I said, Man, he

ain't gonna say no crazy. But then, like every day you live in it, though, you realize, like, oh, ship, this is like a dictatorship, you know what I mean, And people say, like the man is racist. Just like that, man, hey, everybody, you feel I'm saying, you don't have no respect for nobody. So it's not it's it's like racism is just like racism is a short word to describe him. You feel what I'm saying, That's like, that's like a copile word to to describe him. And like the way that the

whole system was being red. So for me, it was just like no bullshit. After my first year I went to Africa, I was like, you know what, like either I'm gonna do something crazy or I need to go somewhere where I feel like I need to appreciate everything that I have as a black man in America. And so I went to Africa, and I you know, went to Africa like three or four weeks and just was like I needed to see something now that you know

what I mean. I went to Tanzania, Rwanda, um man, and it's just kind of like low key like changed my life, like the genocide and then like you see how you seem's going on in Liberia. It's crazy, yeah, mess you look man, It's like when you look at the world, you know what I mean, we look at ourselves here in the United States, and we all privileged. You feel them saying like and we don't know ship.

You know what I'm saying, We don't know ship until we go outside the country and really see how people really live and like the ship that they got and the resources they use, and like how I appreciative they are for life, you know what I'm saying that. So that's what taught me about like they're the same, No dude, no racists. You feel what I'm saying, Like that big like Donald Sterling. It was like he no, right, So

I'm bigger than him, you know what I mean. And so one, I'm letting everybody know this man racist and you humboy you've been I say ship to me, you may not say ship to me. You been not say this ship to me. I'm gonna sit here. I'm gonna hoop as much as I can, but I can't come to this arena knowing that I'm trying to win games, knowing that he's gonna win. So I'm fucked, so I can't play. You feel what I'm saying. So let me really ask you something because I know you gotta get

up out of here. Um when the people start kneeling, uh huh, pick up Colin Kaepinet because um, I feel like he doesn't get his just due for what. So people started kneeling, right, And now the kneeling things kind of got out of got out of the uh controversy because the thing about it is now they're they're focusing on the kneeling. But the kneeling part was to promote

police brutality, police and justice. It was like, you know, the innocence, um, the innocent killings of armed black people, and when they started kneeling, what happened was people start to focus on the actual kneeling as opposed to the actual protests and what they were kneeling for. How did you how do you feel about that? I mean, it's just it's a great, big distraction. You see what I'm saying, And I think that you know, it's like it's it's and you know, it's easy to run where the glow is.

It's easy to run where the line is. It's easy to run where everybody run until you feel them saying, but to not understand. And so my whole thing is what's the solution? Right? What's the solution? So you know, we're kneeling, that's cool, we're showing that we protested, me showing that we're standing up. We were expressing ourselves, we're expressing our rights. But what's the solution? You know what

I mean? Because when it's time to meet, and it's a meeting out of minds, like who's there with the plan and saying, you know what, all this killing got to stop? How do we fix it? You feel what I'm saying instead of like, man, what do we mean? And and not to disrespect no movement, you know what I mean. But I think that for us to like keep rewriting the same playbook of protests. You know what I mean, when like we look at the power that we do have within ourselves, we can rewrite the system

by just looking at ourselves differently. You feel what I'm saying. How do you stop police brutality? I say, let's educate these kids, and let's educate them to grow up to want to be policeman and they in the community police yourself. Yeah, because if if you grow up right and one of your best friends from elementary schools the police man, you feel them. But I know your story exactly, so I know your story. You feel what I'm saying. But we don't.

We don't look at opportunities or the jobs and not that these are opportunities that exist. We gotta go out and we gotta figure out the solution. How do we create these things to stop us from being looked at? You know what I mean? In this position, you feel you know what, It's different from when I grew up and was like, the police is the fun bitches in my hood, right man? They're regular people to regular people to identified like we knew that something like think somebody, right,

you get somebody from Ciscinnati. Right now, you get somebody from the South who police different. Now you get shipped to New York, right, he gets he gets traded to New York. You feel me now, the way he was policing down South, he gonna police in New York. Now he comes to your hood. Right when your homeboy that you went to school, it was supposed to be the

police in that community. You feel what I'm saying that he come there, and now when he run into youth, you know, it's a whole confrontation thing because he don't know you, you don't know him, and and now you mean confrontation. You feel what I'm saying. So it ain't

no understanding. You feel what I'm saying. It's always a misunderstanding because we don't get we don't we don't create enough solutions from for us to understand in ourselves and for people to understand that we more than just a motherfucker's sitting on the street corner or but you know what I mean, it's like you know and and big up see you for doing this show, like you know, giving light to people. You know what I'm saying to be able to like, you know, speak their ignorant, speak

their peace, whatever it is. You feel what I'm saying. So, you know, million dollar million dollars, hundred million dollars, you got a hunt, a hundred million to causes to get to get the players to stop kneeling. It was a big article and I don't know, I don't read that. I don't know that giving out there basically saying hey, we're gonna put a hundred million dollars towards these problems

to stop kneeling. No baron got a goot, here's a deal. Yeah, man, It's like, you know, if they would put that same because the thing about it is this, we're not lying, We're not making these stories not happening, man, And it's black people are every fucking day by the hands of the police. Right. But we forgot, we forgot, we forgot because became a Trump thing and it became against the flag,

and now you disrespected America. You feel what I'm saying it, So it was like, hold on the police, you disrespecting America. We're gonna make it about something different, right, And now everybody started kneeling for different purposes, different reasons, and what's a solution? You feel what I'm saying. It's like I think that we're living in the world because of like we got the power of social and viral for us to understand and and and have a better perspective of

what's going on in the world. But at the same time, like we can get caught in the web. But just following ship, you know what I mean, That ship can just become viral. You know what I mean. And so you you run the risk of positive things happening, negative things happening, things getting misunderstood. You feel what I'm saying it so you get further and further away from actual solution is you know what I mean, Because it's like

it's a it's a it's an American thing. You feel what I'm saying, And like, you know, black look at us, look at this sucking room. You feel what I'm saying. Look at this. You can't tell me, We can't tell me. Yeah, you can't. Like it ain't no minority. You feel what I'm saying that it ain't no minority. But if you grow up and you believe you the minority, you feel what I'm saying, You're gonna always feel like you gotta fight to like you the We're the fucking as far

as I'm looking at it, we're the majority. We all look and working on this ship and coming together and doing the same thing, you see what I'm saying. So that should just be a distraction. Man, you feel me? Now, how did you get into Adam Sandler movie? Because Adam Salder only fox with his people, that's it. He don't work with new niggasogoing. So um how because because I

think you've been like three right, Uh? I think like what like a commercial approach with I was Will Ferrell Simon, that's my boy with Adam Sandling and uh Sandling boy, Like we just started hooping together in New York and uh that's just like that's like the big homie man, that's like big bro. Yeah you played ball with Adam. Yeah, let's be one that he left. I was just playing ball.

So that's how y'all started. Yeah, and he just passed me the ball all like he liked to dribble and throw does He played like Steve Nash all the time. We was in uh in the New York Sports Club, and so he was like, man, I was like, yeah, I'm a big fan. I gotta gotta And then we got a lot of ties in l A. So you know, I was always sweating him, like yo, let he put me in the movie man, and always walked by his office. Hey man, Yeah was the first movie. And that's my

boy was my first movie. But we did a commercial for like the NBA and his movie to Zoha and that's how we like, uh, we got to do it, but the n B A and he was like, Yo, you're funny, and I was like, man, thank you. And then he just started like looking out for me every time, like yo, you want to do this, you want to be in this? And and I'm like, damn, dude, you know it's it's a blessing because he really liked funk with me and think like Yo, this dude funny. You

know what I'm saying. So like, because a lot of people like one track mindet meaning you got one thing to do? So how did you come up with that intuition to say, you know what, after I'm done with with with ball, I wanna you know, experience with that. How did you even come up with that? For me? It was more so like that was you know, once once your body where I would like you use your mind. And you know, for me, basketball was never really like physical.

That's why I always played her because I didn't give a funk. It was just like a release and it was more about creativity, you know what I mean. I'm sorry you said your body gives out this This is true. Yeah, yeah, your body breakdown. I mean you're looking at you look at athletes and eventually like you just can't perform. Like I feel like I beat Tiger Woods right now, Like I'm just throwing it out there right now's up. I just lost it. He's gonna step on the he's gonna

step on the golf course. You're gonna look at it. You're gonna be like, damn, just like you did with Phil Jackson. I don't want to say Tiger, you know what, you know what I mean Now, I've been looking at Tiger like t taking pills. Man, the man, listen, I just take exacy. I know Dagger's on ecstasy right now.

But you're saying your body does actually your body right like you but like you just can't perform at you know, sometimes the pace in the level, you know what I mean, because the game is getting faster and faster, you know what I mean. So you have to be you know, smart about how you train and as you get older,

but eventually your body is gonna break down. And like everybody, every athlete say, you know you ride to the wheels fall off, you know what I mean, because it's the one thing that you grew up with, it's the one thing you love. I mean, that's a controversy around football, you know what I mean, Like, how do you tell a kid has been doing this all his life that

he loves this, you know what I mean? This is like what he has to like stop and it's like hard, you know, even though it has health, health restrengths, you know what I mean. So it's just like it's crazy because it's like an outlet and it's like the only thing that we had. So for me, it was just like damn I could use my mind. Basketball. Dudes got crazy stories. We tell crazy stories. Dudes. Is funny. And I'm already in l A. So I'm going to go

into movies and making movies and smart. Yeah, So that's what that's what it was. So this is the last question I got because they're trying to wrap us up. Do they smoke weed in the NBA. I mean not inside not and and not in the NBA. You know, I think like the commissioner and like the people in the NBA, they don't smoke weed. But like but the players, they get busy. Whoever smoke smokes. Yeah, I'm basically it's like to each his own, you know what I mean.

I don't know who personally smokes. No, don't that like I don't, you ain't gonna stay. But like you know, if you smoke weed, you smoke. You know what I mean. You know what I'm saying. But look, how could it be legal in l A but it's illegal for athlete? You know. Honestly, I think like the rules will change because you know it's like, man, you play so hard you feel I'm saying, you need some smoke. Man, sometimes you need to like your body needs to calm down.

Or you know, the CBD oil and it and and it's known to like be bearing healing. You know what I mean, It's gonna be a healing. You know all that saying all that, I'm just saying, bro, I'm just saying, the rules gonna change, rus gonna chang rules. Got the rules gotta change because it's like it's a high demand on your body. Dude, it's high stress. It's not a lot of sleep, you know what I mean. And like

I'd rather somebody smoke with and take pills. I rather somebody smoke with then become an alcoholic and become a drug that, you know what I mean. And then when you look back in the history of like all the great players who failed the alcoholism and pills and cocaine and ship, maybe if they have some blood, that's all maybe they wanted, you know what I mean, because that ain't known that like, cause you know, I ain't never heard nobody this is true. It's true. We get to

the Black Star. Do you think that Kaepernick should have talked them all? Because I feel like that I feel like that was kind of mistake, Like he took a stance and then he didn't explain his stance. Is that a problem? And we get right in the Black Star. Yeah, you know what, I think even he should have. It should have been a solution, It should have been a preparation for you feel what I'm saying. And I think that you know, what he was doing was what was

true to his heart. He feeled I'm saying, and like, that's what That's what his purpose and his goal and his mission was about. And then I think that everybody else started putting spices in the gumbo, you know what I mean, because after the Trump said these sons of bitches'

you know what I mean, that's way and later. And that's the whole thing about like the viral thing is like, you know what, where was everybody a year when he was when he was doing you know what I'm saying, And then you don't have a job now that's kind of terrible. And he's still fighting a good fight. He feeling he's still getting the Black Santa. So black Santa to me is like a solution and so you know, like traveling the world, you know, uh, And it's like, man,

I have a black dog show up like Santa. Yeah, it's it's a black So I feel like I should be Black Santa. I'm just doningtach anybody can be saying it. So that that was my whole thing is like why does Christmas have to be told with a certain type of stiffness aesthetic and a look and to feel, you know what I mean? When somebody created that, So why can't I create? And I ask you the question, do you know a black man that's jolly all the time, friendly, you can trust, you can depend on, and you can

make wishes to you know what I mean? Like we don't have that. So as kids, as adults, we don't have that imagery. And so for me, it's to like go in and to look at you know, storytelling, to look at you know, from a kid's perspective, you know what I mean, from a family's perspective. It's how can I give you an image and then create through this vision and in this world, this world of inclusion, this world of diversity through this black man eyes because of

Black Santa. Don't just have black people around you feel what I'm saying, you know what I'm saying, And so like that's what that's the story we want to tell. And and and basically kids get to see themselves and they get to see their dreams and wishes and have somebody that they can believe in. And you feel what I'm saying and identify five with every time that holiday

season come around. And so you know, I created this, uh, this Black Santa character and this company basically to be able to tell stories of diversity, you know, Latino Cinderellas, you know what I mean, Just you know, everything, everything, and I feel like we gotta donate. Like I feel like it's what is it you putting out? Like merchandise, storytelling, merchandise. We're releasing the mix tape. So the mix tape is coming out in a way to Christmas mix. Yeah, so

Black Santa is releasing the mix tape. Man, if we got merchandi want to wrapping paper? You know Black Santa dot com he around, you know up here, pop up on you you know what I mean. And so we just really just building the movement and the growth where it's going to be education based entertainment base in the world where we can all utilize each other's talent to like spew out a bigger message and big let's make some noise of Black sand I got damn before to

let you go. I'm gonna throw something out there. Yesterday I woke up. I had four great hairs. Oh my god, dog, you got done. I had one right here and the ship. I was like, you got one like that one? I had one right here and the ship was sticking out that way and it was look at his ship, he's but my hands is polished. You know they got blow. I had that one. I was like trying to cut that.

I woke up. I had I told my wife. I was like, oh ship, I kept trying to pugle it, and my wife had My wife had a scissor, like what is he one of around with scissors? Bro? And then I woke up and I had four right here. I was like, I'm thirty. Damn. Look in the mirror. I got great hairs, Like, damn, I got great hairs, Like I ain't I feel good? You know what I'm saying.

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