Episode 107 w/ Jim Jones

What up his dj e F? And his drink chess? Motherfucking right now? We one of the creators of dip set, one of the creators of loving hip hop. I gotta call him the fall of love and hip hop. He got his lady here. We're doing something different to the creators. We go, we're doing something different today. You know what I want? Me and Jones we've been talking and he wanted to do something different with dreat Chance and we was thinking he was gonna go on the Bowl earlier

and in order state I fell asleep. Um, but I wanted to do something different. I said, you know what a couple of things we had never did that, like just him and this girl. First off, I love their relationship and I loved how they're the stronger Black unity, Latin unity. I loved it. It's going down who if in case y'all not known who were having to build it? Right now, we have motherfucking Jim Jones and we got mother Christie right and you're gonna help us out, christ

because we never have girls on here. Who do we have? What do we have? A girls? Never rolls? We had Trina and came a couple of Yeah, okay, so the only other couple at Diddy and that's that's a good god. So right now, so Tim Jones, um, you won't get a little cripple right now, what happened? Had a babe had a bad day to day on the water man, waters was rough out there. Man, it wasn't good for me. Man, I give up. I'm gonna give up just skiing for

a little. Yeah, and you're really a water guy, like I'll be seeing you an a gana and all that, like you just be out there. I like the water. I don't really like the ocean like that, but I don't like water. I like playing on the water. We got boats and stuff like that. You know, I see the boat man, I see, let's make some boys for Jim Jones. I think the wollow You ever think you being in Miami, being on the boat every day. I've seen you y'all teaching Christie how to drive the boat.

You ever thought you would be living this night? I don't know, bro, Let's make Honestly, I always had the hustle, but I never thought out I would be you know what I mean, not not not this far. I mean when you're younger and the thrill of being in the industry is one thing, but twenty years later as a

whole another story. To still be in the same industry and persevere through the ups and downs and still maintaining relevance and you know, keep recreating yourself in you know, and then look like you're having a lot more fun nowadays, Like for some reason, can like for some reason, I've seen you at Swiss party the other day, and then I've seen you at a couple of other parties. I'm like, see, and it's like it's like you actually embracing the industry,

Like finally, is that correct? Almost I'm embracing myself. I'm just trying to have a little bit of fun. I mean, you know, I grew up a little a little bit on the wild side, so I'm kind of kind of missed the fun of everything. So we're just trying to get reacclimate into this bullshit industry. You know what I realized the other day, Um, how much shit I've missed, like for trying to be like keep up an image, Like I missed so much. Like I remember being kicked

out of the tunnel. I couldn't go nowhere else, and I thought that was cool, like as as opposed to playing the game, Like now I wanna you know, I want to go and hand out the Soho house. You know what I'm saying. I want to want to do that. I don't want to be able to I don't want to have to be tough every day. Like that's the reason why I made a new record on mys because it's like I can't talk about guns no more records me personally because I just really don't want to do

that ship. But I personally missed out on so much so to see like the transitions and see I remember it was it was an episode of Entourage. I don't know anybody here watching. Well, remember when Vince fell off and then um because he did the Columbian movie, the populasketball movie, and then so Vince said, I'm gonna come back to the game. I'm gonna head back to the game.

I remember are we Gold saying to him, well, you gotta play the game this time vance And it feels like the older we get, the more we played, the game evolved. You evolved. Got the crap. We had j D here yesterday he went crazy. I can't believe what j D told us. He told He told us big stories. I almost had to tell him because I was crazy. That's out and he's been around for a long time. I remember the first time uh we met j D

and uh when Campbell signed on. He was doing his first album right on, had all that money, so they was flying us everywhere he was. Then in Atlanta we went to his house. He had the big ranshion out there and all that. Remember he had the pool table and all that dances. I just remember them gambling. You see how poor no j oh, That's how I changed like that. I wanted this force we so you know, let' let's get into this love of hip hop thing a little bit because it was originally made from you for

you and Christie. Correct, we made we made this show. It wasn't made for us. We made the show. Uh, it was just a guy named Jim Akiman who ran VAH one at the time. He's trying to get me to do a reality show, by any course, and Christie was trying to do a show at the time and

the show she was doing didn't go through. So we m total of be going I'm gonna try to get the show that Jim mackimen wanted to do and tell them that make the show more around your life, that includes me, and I'll be involved with it as much as I need to because I didn't really want to do it, and that's exactly what happened. And from there everything rolled into a little hip hop right, a little bit more intricate than that, but that's the basis, right.

And now you guys got your own show correct on we TV. Correct. Yeah, we have one season on we TV. Okay, Christie and Mr Jones, we also did a that was that wash one. Mr Joe never was never yet. We got a few shows on the dollar at this point, so you know what I mean. It's it's been it's been good. TV has been good to us. Now what do y'all like about? What do you like about music or TV? Um, I don't know that the thriller music and catching the head ain't nothing like it? So you

know how that goes and ship like that. That's it's more explosive than being the number one actor than number one football play like it ain't nothing like having that smash record and ship like that. So what I mean? But uh, TV, I love the production side of TV, being able to put televisions on the TV, you know, ideas out there and ship like that, like it's dope.

I mean, Plus, it's a It ain't no better form on marketing and promotion for yourself or anything that you're trying to sell as far as doing on television that's commercial level with you like you like better? Well, I've never had to smash it, so I can't say. But um, I think that they kind of compliment one another, right, so I think they're necessary. It's necessary even right, I'm not gonna lie. Um, it's like my first year, I

guess a producing television. You feel like I love that ship that is, it's like you're putting some ship together you're putting out and then you allow the people to enjoy way less stress. It's a different pressure. And TV is a is a commitment of things. Like when you do music, if you get a hit, everybody takes claim for your hit. Anybody like what I gave him to be because when you do start at the start at the bottom. But you did as opposed to when you production,

but you're the boss, you did so everything. You know what I mean, It was to give us music deals back and then like that when we start at the top, it would be much different. This ship is just like that, say the feedback up great songs. Like so many people claim your success like when they said, and so many people claim your success when it's a TV show too, But it is a collective people. Do some people steal

your success too when it comes to TV show. Yeah, it's a lot of fake drink champs out we see y'all. We see y'all. Put some doesn't make you drink cham You gotta relax out there. I'm not nobody hustle, but I've been seeing a lot of them taking off star even not just the liquor to tap case. So okay, so you see somebody see somebody knocking it. Should they do say invitations? How do you feel about it? I don't like it, but I don't like it. I don't like my songs over, I don't like it. I'm gonna

be honest, no invitation at all. Now, this one girl she did over sometimes and she sometimes it is a record that is about my father, so I'm not gonna let any I don't want to appreciate any other artists touching my ship. But she went and she she I don't know her name was probably funked up, but she kept the basis of the song still a lot like I liked it that. I liked that, so home girl whatever there Sometimes over she went to nas um Um Portrait and she shot the video there, so you know,

but I don't like that. I don't like I don't even people take other people's out because we came from the idea. We came from an error where we had to be creative. You know what I'm I'm saying, like you couldn't be like the next guy, like you know, like like like my favorite rapper in the world at the time is Granddad. Yeah, you nobody knows who wear

there are you? Like I mean, you know, you know what I'm saying is I study Granddad at you, right, but if you look at my style, you can't see no granddad of you in me because I've focused to be something different. You know what I'm saying. I praised him, but I went the other way. So but when that being said, how did you how do you feel about this? Like this is mad fake dip set movements out there right now. It's mad movie just trying to be y'all, like,

how do you taste buds? I like that, honestly, I'll bean hmm, don't. It's a different times. So it's like if this was in the arrow when we right what was doing, what were doing, Niggas would it did even try to even remotely do anything like the sort. But at this day and age, he said, so much of trends and there's so much the culture and ship like that, it's only right that the kids follow suit of ship like that. So when I do see the bird of or niggas saying drips in and you know what I mean,

that's they like grand They like my grandkids. You did, like, that's how I feel the butt or you know what I mean, I see these same artists in the streaming thing like the show respect. They're like they're still in the ship. They just copying and pay some ship like that. I respected. Yeah, I got about the real thing again and it sings like saying about it having a hit or nothing and ship like that. You know, dip set

wasn't really about the hits. It was about even the group of niggas creating a move into giving a bunch of niggas from the street opportunities to get out of the street. Like this people that came from the dip set movement that are doing so well in the industry now, like from all sorts of people that were interns, of people that were engineers, the people that were artists, and

people that were styled like like everybody. I see them all in the game holding makes you waiting ship like that and it makes me feel good when I see that ship, you know what I mean. So that's that's a that's an ill point because like when you see successful companies, you see rocket Feller, you see these these guys are over there and they got you know, this guy from over there and he's the send it up such and such now like so it's always there's always

something dope. Yeah you see that. Yeah? Now, I what's your favorite era? Hip hop? My favorite ever? I don't know, man that you know, I got like my favorite every probably uh. We had to be being in the living room my mom's breakdancing. That's eighties members eight point seven kids was playing hip hop. People don't even remember. It wasn't know how ninety seven it was named point seven kids.

They used to play all the hip hop songs and that like every Friday, they used to play all all the rap music against it like that and my moms and get in the living room and break dead and lecture book, Get you know what to take to shoot me? That was my introduction of hip hop and then ever since then, I've been in the school of hip hop. Like I like, I studied this ship, like I studied

every rapper. I studied every rapper style, whose fly, who wasn't fly, whish nigga could really Rappish nigga was aggressive, wish niggl was really in the street, who had a street name? Like it just is part of the game. I brought every sauce magazine. I brought all the in class. When you take all the right on from the Little Girls and ship like that. I just wanted to see

what the raptors had on. From Eric B and Rock Camp used to actually be my favorite, like that of all the motherfucking uh Coucci dat, but Dan Somes and ship like that with the air ones like Eric V was a spooky nigger man like nas you know there they came to Eric B for me that might that that that that would have to be like my my top two all time. And she's like when you said Kane and Eric B or did you know it's like

the great great one and ship like that. But these are all the first raps that I started to remember. Did you ever meet Rock Cam? I member Rock Cam and I me and Cam had to make a store, get the funk out there. And that was that was before we signed the deal. It's like ninety six we wentwome. You know, we had no dum almost melted in this. He had too, came with some Hennessy ship. I know you were paging me and that ship like yo, that

was like you know what I mean. Like then, just all those movements that I remember coming up, like any time I got to see a rapper and just like it's still some type of energy and me not saying that I thought I could ever be a rapper. I just loved the lifestyle. And then I used to look at all the hustles and the drug dealers, and then it just was one of the two. And Ship like that because of how fast they was living and you always see the cars and the women and the jury,

and as a kid, I just was stuck. I was just like that was a fix for me. And Ship like that and who I always love when an artist was not proud to be a fan, like I don't give an Whenever I see Granddad, like I see carras one like this, I see right, that's market Ima. I see Snoop, I go crazy, like that's my that's that's my main man like deep Cover. When Snoop first came up, I wasn't over. I stole his See Me and My

Man on more. When in twelfth grade Richmond we stole his CD out of what was the HMV the HMV stores the music stores. That was a h V at the close store. No, that's h and m okay I V was like a six years I was. I was damned the next to home. So that like Jimmy, So that was that was ah honest, I stole Snoopshet Stow a couple of the Snoop. Snoop was one of them that niggas learned that ship damn it overnight, Like niggas don't.

I missed that part of the hip hop very when you buy c D and you just sit there, you study like you had exam the next morning, says I hope the new generation took from from what he said it before and I asked him something to what he's said now. It's like people just think that you just become six like people just people like I heard all to say, yeah, I'm gonna be like Jim Jones, and it's like they don't hear they didn't hear nothing you just said. They just think that Jim Jones the hype

man that became the rapper and it was easy. They don't think nothing, They don't think. They just think they think it was that easy. Like they don't understand. You know what my favorite ever is and hip hop that I participated in it, and that was just doing tours with you guys like Favorite I participate nineties seven nine nine His mind, The dimmomatory was something differentl that changed. I like, but just the into the game, Kim gouts

because I was there for the whole ship. I remember when you had Kim got his fucking deal like niggas did, like like Big did one of the most incredible ships in America, like he like in the world, like he wouldn't whatever happened when Mike spring Kim to the joint told Kim that hes gonna give him a deal, and then God blessed Big Hat passed away and then Cam brothers cousin Blush had passed away, and was like Cam just went to like an emotional spiral and ship like

and like it was he was piste off because he k movie. He was right there at the door and he was in the liquor store. And then they was doing I Love Big pop up video in my Morris Park and we came from the liquor store. He's like, let's gonna see what's going on over the locks and anybody over there, everybody who can was he was sitting at that time on the mix tape and all that ship. And then I've seen un was over there with Buck.

I didn't know who they was at the time, but I knew who um was because I remember it was like undeas and they showed him in the sort and the source magazine DIG the Social Soul Informative, like you wouldn't know who know nobody was, but they kind of picture onder there and I was like, oh, that's the dude. I got the sixty four sixty four million and all that ship and did the undous Rockey label were big before and then I've seen him and I'm like, yo,

can that's the dude right there. That's big part of we're going over there. And when was like, yo, small man Cam Big said before he passed away, he was gonna give He was like, yeah, call Monday do so was true that Big definitely was signed a camp. But I'm telling you, he said, daddy and the passing away. Then we go to Big Lock singing We Love Big pop up a MOREO video shooting seen on I'm like this my man can like, yeah, they told George told

us about you calling someone dude just like that. When the CAIM got signed, like in the next week, I have a freestuff you can that he said that, Let's go to the video. He said, the right, that's what he told me. He's like, this is the round might spit for bid? And what year it was that at ninety seven? Ninety was nineties six, that was ninety six, kids spent there for Big that was nineties. That was

ninety six. Member Big died in ninety seven and the best Shat died in ninety seven, okay, and then and so off and so this was like it was like nineties yeah, because and it was kind of spooky because after we didn't sign the deal, our first show was like, damn you on Puffy Worlds told me like did like two shows on camera hide and then they're like, oh, you're going to my Yami. We're going on the Puffy

World's tour. So our first show was like the Big Puffy World, Tall crazy right now every night seen the Big one more World. Then did the World Shoe ended on the memorial Big passing the way, So just erie have you get you get signed and then you just it just was nuts. What was the first year you did Summer Champ? Was that ninety eight or ninety down? I got a funny story. You almost killed men? Remember

they brought me out as a guest. All right, Wait, that's ninety eight to nine, nine because that's the first time you suthing jam and I was a surprise guests. I think it was ninety eight. Oh, I didn't know. I was let me talking about the last ship. That was that's nice night years old time having summer jam, right, so we rehearse. So in rehearsal, they kept saying, noriy wait for the boom. So I was like, I cool.

So you hear boom and then I come out, I think, and I say, my so, what happened was the boom didn't come. Yo're like go out, I let the bay go. We're I can like I was, but now we're the whole crap. Why I can't even act like I'm hurt. I'm just gonna be like, yeah, I know. I swear to God. Were my first Summer Jarre experience. I swear too much. The big set up. Don't come out of this boxer, come out of this box. The Pyrols. Don't go playing funked up with the Pyrols like it was

Pyro seasons. Just like you got the Pyros, we the blow up stage and the crazy ship. In practice, we had it with Factor pice Hey. We did at what it was good everything and it was still it was just me. That ship blew up like right here, like but it could kind into the crowd and looked like because I live up because into the crowd, it was like, oh he killed that, But I'm like that ship was cause you know why I liked um was one of my favorite years because of because I felt like we

didn't really know what we were getting into. We were gullible, like I had a little bit more experience than y'all because I had just dropped the War report the year before, but really I didn't know because I was on my own. So and then we I would see yall on the shows and we were just so happy at that time, and then we learned their business afterwards. Like you said, it just was being innocent, just soaking up everything, getting to see all your idols and ship like that, not

knowing that there now competition. But niggas was so green and ship like that, like man like A ninety nine was so good years, like it really turned life around for us and ship like like right now. He used to come to the pro like it just we had a different type of ball. We would come to the would come out to queens, played basketball. You want to tell you what's the Carros video? Shoot right, I'm getting busted,

and I don't keep threatening them with basketball. I'm like, yo, I'm gonna home, I'm gonna be We're gonna play ball. This is why I did it too lonely tones. I did the same as acting in a little bit too. They did to me. So I didn't know these things as nice like these niggas just I don't know why the new camp I had new cat because I played for Riverside. I think he played No I played for Gallshows one year or he played for rivers one of them ships. He played when we was like when we

was kids, he played for both. Okay, when we was kids. I seen him in Galashows Gym, so I said it knew that I'm know him from that, but I didn't. I was. I was a boso that day. Then nigga see me coming, Oh yeah, you want to play basketball? You know, my nigga. These things they must have didn't drink the whole day because I don't busted. It's about so much I can do, and you know I could Bookie and these niggas whipped by. They're only people to this day and beat me in basketball in the industry,

and I still got it. You know, I still never never forget what would be like one I don't know, still hushed off the back. That's how innocent you was. And y'all shot a video and we was in video closed all of us and we still played basketball. And that's how innocent you was a people. And this is the the energy of New York was different around that time, right. It goes a lot of people making big names to themselves and and getting big checks that were sold you mongous.

They were changing life since things not since the nineties. And ship I look at these young brothers and I see them getting money, and I'm so happy for them. But they don't they don't know the era of a big like. They don't. They don't know that now they're getting their show more, they get check, they get they got that damn pack, They got the streams. You know

how to avoid the radio. But these niggers don't know about going in their office and negotia ain't four million deal five and now a dead like all on you going to the bankers and checking them in the bank. Then listen, you know it's it's it's totally nuts and ship like that, Like, yeah, one of those funes stopped like around two thousand and four. I think they stopped around the time you was working for Atlantic. Around that time is when the budgets like kind of decreased. I got,

I got, I gotta, I gotta. I called a nice lick one on two dolls eight eight. Okay, Okay, they're silly. That was like that was like the I was like the last last of the last. I kind of slipped in because of the ball on record. It was like, man, I was like I ain't going on three sixty and the venture I was kicking all that ship I heard for the whole career. These is getting joint ventures like

and I still didn't know the game. I'm just kicking it to the herd like no, no, no, no, joint venture ain't doing no three sixty And they don't know they with all that ship, man, that should that ship when they be like, yo, I got the label that should don't need ship and you also, Shi is just worged or do not know what the labeled me? My nigga like you to see you or what you like because I was I was once that dick head like

I was like man, were like, I'm the CEO. Don't see it like you You have no idea what it really takes the b c O make this record label function like a real recorstable getting hits dog like, that's that's something different. Anything's gonna move with a hit. You ain't gotta hit and you gotta make a record label sustaining ship like that. That's a whole number monster of being a CEO on the business and ship like that. But that's saman saxpen get into some other ship. Now

that's all good, So we're gonna take it everywhere. Um So now how the clothen thing, Like, how did you like get into that? Um? Honestly, I did a free style. I said, I'm a very pire life true blood sukie and damn me and my man snags were printed up just some sweatshirts. It's a vampire life on him to match a couple of pair of sneakers, I presumed BT with the locks in them, and they're like, I need some of those and haven't twisted in my man gbs on the sneaker store in the coliseum. That was with

a young y'all of the other day. I went in there with a boxing a box of T shirts. When I first started, like, yeo, whoever about paying sneakers? Give him a free T shirt? Man? He looked around me like free, what we're gonna give ship for free? Told her sister put some tags on and put them l forty five dollars and ships sold before the day was out here, Like you might have to really do a clothing line because you just left in his soul and I had left like eight shirts and he is all gone.

And then from there I got it going and ranched a little complications, but then I'm back and running the ship like that lunkey a lot, but we're gonna support that, like hit sh I appreciate you supported. I was meant to tell you to bring some shirts. Got the problems, get your shirts in the pot shot right now. So now, now you was a director at one point, like you were really out here directing. I'm still a director, Like but like, how how what made your mindset to even

think like that? Like because none of us was because of that. We wasn't a little mad at because of big era of big budgets, Like like when we and Kim got signed, what was that ever? Was a dying or was it multiplied? It was this just like when we're talking about big budgets, These dudents don't know what

big budgets is. That's where all came from. Like when we and Cam first signed, we didn't know what these budgets was and not saying that it is raped us, but we didn't know what it meant and ship like that. So we just went with the flow and did what

everybody told us to, didn't asked about nothing. By the time we got signed to Rockefeller, Cam did a solo deal and they gave it a dipomat deal and men Cam already had a vision from being stuck in the street in Limbo for that two years and ship like that's another whole another story that people don't even remember.

How we just was Kim lost the deal when one of them lost the late record label, when we were just stuck in limbo for like two years, and then Dan came to scoop this and ship like that, Ok, this is director big budgets. I'll be high and got big budgets of our time. We got some more fucking um rocker fun and he sounded a different mess of ship like that. Man, Cam already knew how he wanted

to be seen. We wanted, we knew what we wanted to people to see as far as us giving people hold them and ship like that, and then we would sit there and think about video and treatments. I right, all the ships out and camps like your only doing this. Didn let you you got the ship all right, Now

you got to direct the ship. I'm like, I'm gonna tell him that you direct the ship, and you you smart, stay closer to director, learned that ship and go if it come out, if this video come out good, I'm gonna let you direct the video the rest of the videos. And he kept that, he said, kept it a hundred percent solid on it was an old boy. I directed everything from old Boy, from old Boy to Diplomas to Dwells. The came out. Directed everything at that point for like

four years straight. Is the download hype Williams. He said, you said Anthem had directed that. That's the old American flag ship. When he got the old the whole walk doing ship like that, we were like, I directed all a bunch of joints that your love and like the ball in all my videos certified gangsters. All that ship damn. I directed videos for Rockefeller, for UH State property. UH directed Brimy Mars video. Jake came to the Old Boy video shoot, but he didn't get into Hoot and Jay came.

They came because Rock and Feller had just got one of their big checks. I guess it was like twenty some million, and they hud Cam was a big deal at that day and that was like, you know, the Moose signing, and it was the video was big. So they all came to video set to take the twenty million dollar picture because that's what Dane was. Dan was gonna set with us against Twister, So Jane, all of them came over it to take the picture. I don't know,

he wasn't tripping about that at that point. We just movement happy than anything. We felt like we got twenty million nars. This was me back in the game. Gotta gotta hit record the video. We got money in our pocket, phone calls outside. We didn't even really care about that ship, you know what I mean, Like plus Cam. You know, Cam is a prodful dude. Ain't never let that type of ship fadom, you know what I mean. He couldn't

just say all that that sound like me. You know what I mean, I've been saying that all the time, as that we're gonna focus on us. Yeah, I'm that type of thinking too. I can't even die, but you know so, um now you're being close to rocket. This is something that I never would have thought I could have ever seen. I never thought this would have ever happened, Jay and Dane breaking up? Did you see any signs while you was there that this is about to be over?

When anyone didn't made Cam president, I was like, this is about to be a rap? Oh you you really? You really? Myself, I already already I was like, yeah, this is ain't this zo? Because I already once that happened. The next day it was she in everywhere. This is because Karen Sibyl said it was over a parking spot. Remember she said that she had to be like she better going off what she had. Look Oh no, no, she cam, I'm talking about my bad. I switched topics.

I'm in j and Dane because like not, because like I'm really at one point when I've seen Jay and Dane, I never thought, don't I don't know day business speculating know for a fact, think about a Parker spot. You gotta relaxed the Parker spot. These niggers gotten driving this that I said, No, it's not. She said that she was made. She was making Cam and Jay what my question? I messed up so that you got up. Yeah, I'm saying, okay, okay,

I'm told about when you was at Rockefeller. Did you ever Phil did you ever feel a sign that Jay and Dane was gonna be and no more like, did you ever see that President Kim president of Rockefeller? Next day, it was tension everywhere everywhere in the office because it was like it was like damee bust to move, just telling nobody, yeah you did, and it just you know, I just just voices up there, you know what you know, man, And that's how I felt. I was like it was nasty.

The energy was nasty like that was that was just like the beginning of everything just just going from there and ship like that, like it just you can felt us from being in Baseline and everybody doing music together. So when it happened, everything separated like it was. You felt diplomats over like it wasn't the unity wasn't there like it was before that happened. And ship like that, you know what I mean. And then you got had

the bean, you had to bleach. You had everybody there that'd been there, some Jay's right hand that's been there with him from Brooklyn knowing that. So you commagine how the tension between some of the artists was, Like why, I guess it just didn't even be here. Yeah, you didn't like so, you know what I mean? And then we was cocky. We was going to platinum like everything. It was platinum. He was in ky. They were playing

him on Rockefeller and JA, those ain't nobody else. And they had a slower artist and ship like that that was bubbling and popping the ship like that. We came in and got sizzling over there. Like so it's you know, young kids from hallm You know, if you know any Hallom niggers, y'all cocky. Yeah, yeah, now he changed up a little bit. You also, damn they're created e one. Cock I wouldn't to say I created the one like I would say I helped. He called that company, he

said that's where they go to die. And then you came and you went to Later I helped. I kind of turned I kind of I kind of turned them into a major label, you may just look at them like serious, Like we all kind of laughed at them at one point, and and that was like, let's let's I don't know what that like that that that was a great move for us. I try to get a million dollars from Dame at that point, I would. And I was big at that point. I mean I'm big,

but I was moving, moving in. I was directing all the diplomat for the Dipomats already went platinum. Kim signed to deal, Will signed to deal, and I was like, just give me a million dollars only nothing else. I'm handing everything and blow my own videos and everything. Then shot me dead, right, So then I was I. Me and Kenny had the conversation of these things. Damn South State just be doing independent and ship like that. I'm like,

our power was diplomats. I don't think it's gonna matter if he put diplomat Jim Jones diplomat record out on Death Channel or diplomat record out period, They're gonna buy the Dipperomat record. And that's where we were banking on the power of the Berg. And we went to canture that your pop and what was the What was the standout record that made it was Balling, correct, I mean ball It was a few lovers, but ball it was like the ultimate. But that was rock Stink has had

to pay attention. That was the kind of Jackson record right here? Huge, coming on, come on, yeah, how do you thinking what? I don't want to hear the accident does? Oh you're not the only one I hate cover it with. Come on, I'll be like, yeah, all got some new ship. They're gonna play that new ship. I think like, damn, man, you know what I mean what you gotta respected people from what they love and she like that. I just wanted to records that got me here in a big way. Yeah,

in a big way. That that's that's yours. I would say, super thug, that's y'all, that's the carriage. That's yeah. You know what I'm saying. I was yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, don't share away from that because that that that's a that's a great reco to say. I'm not saying that was an anthem for from what a lot of time. Giants helped it out. I did just Spanish remixes. J did his a remix for me. I'm built that record

for what it's worth. The ship like that, that that opened up a lot of Jews to me and I created a lot of opportunities from me, Like like, how is that you mentioned Jay? Because I remember me going to a pop up shop Big Up to my my boy Bigs, one of the people that's always stayed the same with me, and I just went there and I wanted, uh, I went board mad. Yeah. He told me the don want to spend money. I said, yes, I do. I just I spent money and he's like, Yo, it's crazy.

I just spoke to Jay and he asked me what's up with Jim Jones? And I said word And I was like, I said, I shook my head, like this is the error where everybody we all older now, Like, so, how was that when you first approached that j he said, was because he actually reached out to you. That's it. Well it wasn't. That was more of a tell him. I said, what up is reaching out? Man's trying to be like you, trying to be humble, But no, that's hard.

Continued I'm just like, when you can meet you a friend, I know, it's like, what's but you've been up to just talking randomly about the business and like I'm gonna I'm gonna see something. I know what you need. I'm like huh. And the next day, like y'all were speaking on GI one, he was like, yow, come down to the office and uh, come speak to him. And went then then to check it with one you know even know one one from Hallo, one of the it's one of the legends from harm and ship like that. So

it was a good conversation. But you know how that go. They you're not walking into them type of places without them already know what they want to do, what I mean, but to beat the approaching, it's like confirmation. It's all profit, it's all over and the head is at the look forward for the act. I think hip hop hip hop means we don't got stuck in me. Yeah, I got like.

I like that. I like I like all the cam rodderie and hip hop, but I like competition also, and hip hop has also always been in an aggressive competitive sport. Do you think since like you're doing business with Jake, it it affected your relationship with Dane No, no, no, I don't really care about that. Any dame has some motion going on dame stuff. I ain't really ready tripping up Dan, Yeah you did. Let Dan being peace and and stay and staying healthful, all that type of yours.

All right, I'm doing he do absolutely, man, big amount. We love everybody, Yeah we do. Let we feel up your drink out. Damn you. This is your medicine, you fellow jets. You still tell us what you did on the jet ski nigga, Come on, you gotta always got yourself. That's Sean Kingston out here. Yeah, for sure, boy, not much. That ship almost got terrible out there, your boy, I was just Richard yesterday. Yeah. Now do you think do you think now Thrones? I used to see you as

as a kid. Wow, guys out of control. Do you think Christie is the reason you're calmed down? Yeah, She's probably the reason that I'm a short a lot. I had dissent when you were you found a good woman and not that a good woman. Someone who wants to see a good woman got there. Keep getting your big up. Keep I mean you know, they just they hold you, Garret. I mean, they do more for you than than the niggas that she went on the street doing ship like that. At the end of the day, we think about it

and ship like that. I was tell us somebody that the other day, and ship like that when when you got when you got to other half, when we used to get locked up the first person and call us who were girl, right, we'll call this person called the lawyer personally called the lawyer football all that, you know what I mean said, just you start to think about all the things that worry Murry called Murray rry. I don't want to talk about them. Everyone. I don't know

a bit. You don't know worry. You know you might see now though right he did, Yo, you know you listen to Yeah, man, man got the kids, this guy up in the case you went, didn't bring the nigga some money? Right there? A man was like yo. Then next thing my man went to see him again. He said, Yo, the nigga's crazy. I'm going back to him. Keep that money and I'm gonna go an lay thinking I knew what you're trying to do. But he was, I don't

know what he did for you, but everybody's case. He's walking out of corn was like George Jefferson like him, yea more later to get up there with the boy would have to the Georgia Yeah, Jorian was shaking. He was shaking from bad daddy like that. He'll say some ill ship. You're like, oh you killed I mean yeah, in your mind you text him like you get you know, and y'all thing he didn't. He was see now, he was still taking his money to put him out there.

Like David was a good lawyer. He wanted me to do. But what do you take ping from me? Like, not for what he did from me. Yeah, a man beat Mario Ca. Yeah, the crazy ship one you did what he could tell he got business. I tell you the great I tell you one crazy story. I'm in Vegas and my brother doese some dumb ships somewhere right. And so the kid goes to the police and say him and Nori did he I'm in Vegas. There's no way I gonna in this ship in Jersey, so bob. But

so this is how ill he was. He called the police who had the morn on me and said, listen to my client is in the West Coast. We have we could prove his flights to pull his hotel. But those four hours that whatever happened, they couldn't. He could prove, but there's no way I could have commented, So he's telling him, like, y'all, he said, nah, I have to arrest Noriega because I want to be famous baba and take that ship back. Then he take he had that. Yeah,

He's like, okay, you gonna make him come in. Maybe I didn't wait to joint for the for the Officer of the Holls and said, all right, cool, you know we ain't gonna We're not gonna proster. Obviously you're not. Yeah, damn. So look this is the crazy ship, right. So now, Jim Jones, you direct you now in motherfucking tails were Earth got him? It shouts the Earth, big up the Earth in b J, big up the b J. Oh, what's supreme Supreme team? That's a fact heard stuff this one.

Now BJ with something. Now it's acting a thing that you're thinking, Yeah, like I like, I feel like I think it's a natural progression from where I'm at now when she's like that, from doing musically, doing y'all TV, being from the television and you know, and trying to stay into entertainment and ship like then to find different ways. So now that's the time I've seen you use auditioning for Gray's Anatomy or some ship, because something so real

ship that was like, damn, Jim, you're going there. It was so practical, blue blue, blue, blue, blue bloods. So it's a white thing to me. I don't know why. I was like, I know, I was like, damn for that. You know, I tried. I tried to things. Man, listen about I've told you, I'm trying to be as a member of the soho find different membership. I'm telling you that membership don't come easy. Membership. I got two white boys and close on me. Man, Let's remember pick up

to Trevor and Duck Banker about white connections. You know what I'm saying. Let me let's make some lloyds from you just can't pick them up. White need walking through that white world out there. But they might have not me though, y'all. I don't know. I don't know. But if I apply for the membership, I'm trying to be different. I'm trying. I'll be seeing you in Hollywood Spalls, like the lady being in the Hollywood Spalls, my lady being there too. I'm like, that is a Hollywood place. It

was that a Bell harbor. Should we bring them up? Keep me? That's the wrong place to be. It's very expensive. It's not it's various, very expensive. But do you need mat shils. It's the best called fashiels cap wash shields and you gotta eat um. This is little ball. I'm gonna get the name of the restaurants, the name of the Asian restaurant about in about or come on, no, that's no, no, that's that's mounds that Makoto. All right, you gotta get the lottypop wings from there. Yeah, we

go there. Holy moly, get the talking. She's like fifty five wings. I didn't look at I ain't gonna look at your funk. I just send you migrate to Miami because I know you even had a record called Summer in Miami. Correct, did you live in Miami prior to that? Or she always oh wow, yeah, so I met her at in Miami. Now what is Miami do for you? Because I'm gonna be honest with you. As a city, Okay, I called myself a city city guys born and raised, you know, Queens, New York. Spent most of my time

in Man because that's where the checks was at. Absolutely with Miami does to me is give me a piece of mind, like for some reason, I could just I'm still Nory, but I could like relax and I had an ice roll over up to this morning until I got on the plane, and I later I would kind of smile on one just to just be up to like that come to see you like you said everything, like, yo, yo, I never told you the story. I stayed in Miami for ten months. Then I went to New York and

I went to the club to meet my homeboys. And I walked in and I was like yeah. Nia was like, Yo, what the fun? I was like, Yo, that's like, yeah, we don't smile up here smiling for I was like, oh, ship, I hadn't. I have literally changed my face, Like it's that true. Like New York, you just gotta be mad to be in the atmosphere. She was a later, Yo, Yo, white laid hold just leave, I'm already Oh yeah, that's the only way Nick is we stuck you in New York.

You gonna get y'all laughing, smilling ship like that. Let snick of high you all drugs the South tell you in Miami like people, what I want to go to the club, went to the club will slippers on the Miami like you look with your father than I have. I never did that. Right now, now you've done that. I work out clothes on. They got so care you know, so was different. I was like, oh, hops, like I had changed the clothes and so we live you at

one point. That's what. But that's how lacks of days and cool it is made like you need to get this leg back and it's still a lot of money out here to get like mad into a few things. This remember your first show out here, my first show. I think I think he was at it. Oh, I think you guys came to cream. This spot was called Cream Jepomas No, no you you and Camp and my boy was the live for the nineties or the nineties and he gave you guys DJ and Fen shirts and

I got picture. I'm looking for it right now, y'all your shirts on and came out on stage wearing my shirts. You got it. Actually one of your tattoos. You've got it that day because you had to joint right here and you guys to enjoy it right here. You got that. I got that ship done the money which one I got and that one year was that call, you know, not your hood one. I think it was this one stick we got. Yeah, I got to figure something little. I remember that. I remember when we first came down.

It was me came and beyond and ship like that. Yeah, and they took us to see Callie was doing Piet years. She was. She was like it was she just think it was like one of them he turned joints that stal just goes. She was there when he did Candle the freestyle, which was after that. Ye, so yeah, Miami was it was different. We stayed. That's a That's what I don't know about that restaurant in Temp Street because they that was the first place we stayed, was on

Teff and Collins and that bullshit hotel. But we fresh out the project's niggas you talk about the camp hotel, we want restaurant that's towards the ship that we used to smoke the weed out. Yeah, I ain't the only reason you want that because that was the first hotel we stayed here. Yeah, you can smoke right down that

you used to like them. It was the spot that used to go to, not the lows right that when I brought you out when you went there and we did the interview with Cannabis and that Cannuly and you what was that spot used to go to all the time. I'm begetting hot stay six cannabis. Yeah, you gotta happen every year. You like you're sucking the fun out right, my planning miss and a chamelion. That was two different eras, two different cheers to that. You gotta yeah, you got

your history? Man? This this this you are tacking ball type of guy. Joe, No, he's not here so I can use it. Okay, okay, okay, this one love me tomorrow, but you want jim this one of this one of yours loves mine on the side. Okay, can you do the honors here? Look at that Nikas pulling out history. That's terrible, dumb slim, you know, kind of put him in the gym. I let's go Joe doing this bullshit one way hend Okay, I thought that was tough when I got that one. Let me see nor when I

met him, he was wild slim slim. Okay, now okay, now with the DJ oh that's can oyeah hand Miami online. Let's do you're gonna do the honest what we're doing? A ball? Where is it? Can I have a little cranberry? You can have a love said Okay, thank you. Okay, that's not for me. Okay, you tell me what if that's not cold on the phone this okay, Okay, we got I can't roll out, want to pass and I want to roll this worm. Yeah, man, I everybody got mad like close with us. He pass then all the time.

I'll make sure you getting I'm gonna have my wife because besides, besides, like my niggas, I have never gave any vad like to anybody. What you should like your publicity team people will wear it. I just don't he what you'll just listen, man, listen. This is to career, Jim Jones and your lady. Every good man is a little woman beside him. You know what I mean, We're do want it. You're gonna have to stop walking across. I know you don't come to drink Chance episode like that,

but you're gonna have to lap your man. So this is the Jim Jones. You're doing your thing, your whole career. Everything you're doing your lovely lady who we're gonna salute you at Drink Champs. And this is what we do. We respect our legends overhead. How we continue to do it. Let's take that shot, y'all. M it's terrible. There's nothing good about it. Looks like muddy. There's nothing yesterday's ship. Now, I ain't gonna for dain to be read too far?

He went eight shots? Really this Yeah, he went too far. It looks like motor Royal. Bad smeller, just smeller. Remember that time in the tunnel, I was performing and I threw on Camelong Me and Kidd's going song for song. So we we got Jim is the hype man, down the hype man. These niggas are wild you. I wasn't on the way at night. Is the true used to come out on this underwear? Oh yeah yeah, because because I have my height. Man name was down lazy and they were just bo wow. So they were like it

was almost like they were out wilding each other. Kid, because I always looked that kind of like me and camp like the New Age, and niggas might kill me for the same this, but we were like the new Age. Jay and now y'all had it like front like, let's keep it fronty, let's keep it front. Was okay. Heyone was on fire, said you know I was there. I sit in the studio. One of them and Ship. They'd be talking about you like no on some truthpox ship

right now, I get going crazy. They gotta get camp Ship just going just like that, Like it was like they was following your energy, like yo, he got that. This was the time when k was just so dumb and and it game like yeah, it was a precious situation, like people have no idea, like just like that source cover, they had to the source cover and it was DMX. It was corrupt, soaked the shotgun camera, Nori Cannabis, uh

my propones locked up at that time. That but out of like the thirteen people, it was like thirteen people or something like that. There was the same there's a new generation of who people wanna take Old New York had Like seven was like it was a full and me and Cam didn't make the original one, and I know it was like we wanted, we wanted, we wanted the OUTWORKXX was a guy who actually you know those wise it was me Cam and that matter that you will perform, Yeah, let's go to this. Now we've seen

a lot of people perform performances. Performance Kris One, Bustar rhymes and it shifts d M Max too, So whole sometimes so oh nine. Sometimes it's those three, those my last three. I never I never really got to see a full nine performance, so I would go this Foogie's changed the game. I see him, think it's performing Apollo together all three. It's a battle. It's the nineties one, Okay, I seen big I'm talking about. This is the formers I've ever seen, the foogies and the power. We're tarded

bust the rhymes. I was on tour with him. He used to come out and shake that puffy world toward Damn. It's Fliff Star different different, dead friend right now. You know, niggas be having hit, so it was differ. You gotta hit, you gonna command the crap. I've seen nothing like DMX. Mon nigga make you feel nothing like nothing like nothing, nothing like DMX. I watched that nigga pray. Have niggas crying, have niggas laughing, have niggas balking, have niggas fighting, like yeah,

you see extra falls and I don't know. You gotta come out after extra night like Kim like this, I care like we gotta go all out, Kim, gotta we running through arenas performing one of the arenas get chased. My whole people were trying to do this when the competition of performing was different. When you was on tour with niggas, it was different, the front that was going on day, the basketball game, niggas happen, ter fights, nigga's kidnapping,

niggas like. It was a whole different type with energy back then. But like and I don't And then again, we're not as young as a youngest is right now, so that energy might be the same for them right now. But I swee I ship was different. I tagged like that. I don't want to ask you this question for a lot of time. Your first got them. Let's do it. I'm not saying who, I'm just saying somebody in your squad was sucking amidget on the road? Easy? Do you

know anything about that? I guess that's pretty easy. Let me actually, because you see, I see y'all from the beginning. I don't even thinky'a was dip set y'all. Don't think y'all was different mass at first when I first see y'all, but then Joels came around, it wasn't different mass. Different mess. Ship didn't start in two I want to say two thousand about like, uh, we were doing Purple City Burg game. That was Lip said, that's the purpose of the bird way.

No no, no, no, no, that was I was after nine. That was that was when I met Shis. I met shot the shouts, the Shis and ship like that. So I met Shison nights and and huh oh an't a smoking ship like that? He had that bomb you know what it'd be like part of like his ninety nine and two thousands and things. That's the guy with the Hayes every he got Hayes every time. I still I was back on. He had everything, you know what I mean. So that's so I'm now I don't even know where

the fucking met we'll be talking about right now. I'm just oh when duels juels juels, Yeah, duels came after two thousand because he didn't make it to the tunnel with us. We didn't make it to the tunnel with us. I don't think he didn't make it to the tunnel with us at all. It was just it was just it was just it wasn't it wasn't no dip set because that started game banging. That was when I was right before my man like like god in all, I take I like that. I just said that bad like

because I start a gag bag. Yeah that was all. That was all that he killed that. I was trying to just go through the history shots like yeah, come on, man, you guys, you can't let jam jamae the breath it eight. I ain't gonna lie. No, no, no, I'm mind, I'm mind, I'm line. I'm lying. Because Joel is on SD Sports Drugs entertain We were still on Sony at that time. Somebody Google when STV came up, that's his job. At how he looked right at you. He knew that, what's

your job? Just thinking mad slaugh. I don't know, y'all bet that he looked right at the Google sto Sony because that was after we got after un loss this deal and then they said that we had to go. Tammy was going to Sony and ship like that. And then we went up and there with like dirty bloods Firehood with the camera made niggas signed cam off the label on camera or Sony building. We pulled a high power cool that I don't think it could never happen again.

You're going to jail woking the Sony building with gang members. You think that once again, But this is how that's how influence you that hip hop. Hip hop is the ship like that, like that we are from the streets, so we don't do ignorant ship and ship like that. But now we mix then ignorant ship with shipped that we were watching newly in the game, were thinking. Now we think it was like popping them like that, like Bloody going crazy with everybody. It was signing up nigga,

are you talking about like this is what was our mindset? Like, nigga, We're going on the whole nother round. When you said when year, it was two times, so that was that was that uls Juels was Yeah, because at that year, you had to make the year of the album a year before the whole year. So whenever I look at it, whenever I had fifteen six team, remember that. Yeah, I got the footage the first at what Yeah, yeah, I got you pull the t stop. You're gonna watching the fotage.

Go to the tune too, because the tune stuff in the ninety nine, the Tulle stuff, that was that was the last thing in ninety nine when it's take times, you got bad from the time I hadn't got a protection. I'm gonna say protection. Listen, I had an order protection out. But maybe yeah, I got bad from every club I got York or So. I got the bands from everything. Like every time I went to the club that was outside of the cop call like gett, come on, let's

go in. They're just knocking me up. Every time I went to the to the club and ship like that you're talking about wasn't a bit, but the tunnel was like you know, I'll be it was going in a tune with ninety gang numbers. Really, I'm gonna tell you what. The first time I was beat up, everything told me this this, this is I didn't really get me. Know, it was right with the bottle and I hit I hate to gonna have with the bottle and it was just more of there and I was just like, okay,

I said you one time. No, no, that's a fact, that's a fact. Said I was like out, but you know I'm not. I'm not Loriega. Yeah don't no, Yeah, I'm bothering me. Noria Nigga wrong se he saved me when he was Noriega. He's saved my ass. And the someone one that I never forget that story that the nigga name not God blessed the dad from Blue and this ship like that. He was in motherfucking and the tones, me camping man, Salt and Dave like he's the brother eyes.

So christo did nick n come up? He's looking like buck he got the Fasachi that song ball head Dogs and nigga kids waiting up. He run up on Cam. He like this, goes to Cam like it was something you know who I am? But now I think about it. He wasn't really trying to be funny, but we just was only you know, can you know I had to protect Camps And he's like you know why? M Kim Like nah, right, but we're in the time. We're not chilling. But for some reason this night it's just me Can

and Get and my men Salty and Dave Lighty. So me and Soult look and we gotta think we got a knife on something like that. So now he's talking to Camp. So I put my face like this next this close to Cam face her like you gotta talk to me too. To my man. Saul put his face like can't face on this side, like what's up? He's like, yours be asked un about you, so be back. You know,

gang bang, we just New York Raises and Knights. You dig this nigger backed up and lift up the Fasachi, lift up the Fasaki that's and had two glocks like my, it has been a chilling funk out. We'll keep in mind the second ninety seven. So we're still yoking the game. You still don't know how League's is really moving from if you know about the content guy, But it ain't like we clos backed down, were like, we didn't have no moves in this let. We just stuck in me

a deep. I just started crying on type ship when if one of normy niggas nory had this crue full of numbers and ship, they're gonna get into that. They had footfall jerseys, they all had numbers on the back and ship like dad, you just just calling me trouble by numbers and the like. Could never headed an tell me ship six three five six, No you need two five? What we didn't stay footballs? Yeah? What are the build we say? Ship? One of numbers had a smoke put

me so he put out two guns. I could tuck up. I'll tell you something, any fir to kick me like something something. Oh God, I don't want to kiss this sad ye no yo. We st out that should we set out, that should wipe behind the let stay behind me. You never wanted the tunnel without We had a plan of how we went to the tunnel. This is how we did it. We knew that they went and start a certain amount of people that I came in with. But then we paid for niggers, and then we paid

the secarity. We paid this the scarity said, listen, we funked up in the tunnel so much that the security came to us one night and said, this is what's gonna happen from that long sam was. He said, when y'all got paid for the nigger, we're gonna set it off. I said, all right, cool. We had the club, A young get kicked out. I took over that that was mine. After that, I took over that I was coming to

Peter Gas. Look difference. I don't want the pressure heard he made a mistake and asked me to do something. Somebody had him won the pressure. One day, we're funk about on the club and bitch after any niggas want me, nigga, who you talking about They started telling me coming to the club with ten at a time, and yo, let's bring ten at the time. I mean we should go on tone, five ounces, two boxes of duchess, five hammers,

thirty ricklesces. He heard ray bottles and he raises, I mean, it's all niggas, and then getting the tunnel and he gets something talking. I'm gonna turn it up into some industry ship. But at that time, that's where New York had the business because that was that was club Live, right. Don't want us without ignorance. Keep in mind there was Ford models in there. Yeah, biggest hustles in there. This

bun's going there. Mike Tyson walking through, pigging him walking through like nigga, Like ye, I think I just see Mike Tyson walk through best of my worlds, like ya, this is the time we gotta relax. No, no, My text into the whole show back because I love him. Walked through one lay and he was he looked like he was on some Trump ship. He was grabbing. He was just walking through this crabbing. I don't know if that happened, Mike, but it's just in my mind. This

is my mind. How you walked up the world Mike walk doing with so for such a show on man, you don't know what he touches hard because like, oh that's Mike got old are you talking about? I'm jumping. I moved out of Mike's away a couple of times. Seventy niggas like movie, n you can put all you know that it's some real ship ship, My nigga, Our arrow was dope, and you know what, and we ain't old niggas, and we ain't old niggas just sitting around

with tell him with the nice club. Speed was the gladiator. No, speed was crazy. Listen, I brought super dogger speed. That's how you know. This is how we really had it at one point, I mean like because that was a hard club. So what we should do was they stopped letting us in with the murder Unit ship on right. So what we did was we told these niggas to put it under this ship. So now you gotta you gotta jacket, you gotta throw away jackets. So now we

paid for the thirty niggas. Get it, y'all gun. So now we went to speed and now said what dog come out? What what? What? And our ship was your we just gonna pop thirty bottles and just just shake it, gonna shake everything. And I'm telling you gangs to niggers, just that to relax, like just sitting there like this while I don't even wants the bottom with Speed shaking hardy and you think you feel like sweating. The stage

is in the back. You had to just different. Yeah, Speed had like three flaws, don't but and you had to be to go to this one is big. You couldn't not go down Stays if he wasn't a g solute drink sol. This is the gym J just what made me. It's how the niggas turned me. D damn it, it's not happening. Speed was speedis maybe going to speak. Speed was like, oh it's that ship HDM. Yeah. It was like going to ADM H and we just the fuss that Jim think we was. We was going to Yeah,

it was terrible loss doing like the ship. What we were doing was like hear this thing. It took him about to do like this is like niggas Like it wasn't he wasn't prepared every week to get your forces's outfit to go to the club to fight niggas and then you heard do you remember we have ice crewl like my niggah ice creol wasn't right, niggs like just punching your mouf the club like this, so you like, so no different And if you had a reputation, it was it was. It was tested. I mean it was

it was and then until you just demodested. And then but then every time you demodesty, you got bad from every way you did that, Like we just got bad from the suit. It was a little but yeah, the guy he popped the champagne like it was like like it was your Sean came on pop champagne and we had the book a little bit because you want the super Bowl the story about function that no funk that. So so we gamp like any uh a more real

day weekend. One more real day we get was cos Fat Joe Pool parties when being Meth just started coming out. At least didn't know they've got n LAM bowls and ship like that. I'm under bottomed. So we go up in the party. Me Cam said, want you be enough niggas up there? I meet you, I'm just support you being niggas and ship like that. I'm about to ask you be there's pop. Wow, Champagne. Can't had on some

pretty pink ship all the Champagne for on cam right. Oh, they're popping into it to other like like, oh my god, my whole ship just want to fight. I can't like chick, not like chip. It ain't nothing all those things we get whatever. This ship is like three Paul story tass on me. We tells on on these niggas right called we never we gotta perform and Mansion number. This all happened in one weekend and Mansion and ship like they never we gotta perform at Mansion, So now we're not.

We don't know who to being meth Nickas is like this, this ain't really what niggas knew who being methods. It's just like it's Memorial Day and niggas know what Moral Day was. There was huffles from every part of the country that was really getting fifty thousand and rum Chris Christ five hundred, six hundred bottles divers at the pool party. Fact like, niggas are coming out here happy and ship like that, so we don't know who's now we got

the one goes back to Mansion. Were motherfucking performing. It's like sixty niggas in the front. Bro, we're not really paying attention with down see niggast on the Man season Man Gang signed niggas banging like like Yo came back up these nis fact Joe, see that thing packed up. This niggas came too crazy and it was it was necessary as it came and fat joke before it was like I cam back up. They banged. They're trying to grab my film stamp on the niggas hands and all

that ship. So then we're leaving at the club. You know, this's miamire youngest when you walk up columns and ship like that. We're walking on colons and we're looking back. It's like ninety niggas behind us, like can you see all these niggas be honestly, like damn, we're like this little Then we get to the poems and she like that. So that big bottle. I don't know what cam doing, cam, but that's I'm in the front. These niggas pull up to the palms. It's like ninety of these niggas. Man,

they're like bam manam man. They they tell me my man like nigging right there, like oh my god, these niggas is it's like ninety niggas Like I'm like, oh my god. They had me sweat and I'm like, oh they look. They took their pointed at me, that nigger. They started coming trolls men like oh whatever, because last I didn't know who little being. Now I'm like, oh it's ninety. Then I'm backing up. I start thinking sucking thing. I started running, run to the beach. I'm gonna see that.

I get out of here doing ship like that. Whatever. I got to have a conversation and I got I get book one day to do a show in Atlanta. Right, I ain't thinking about nothing this ship like that. I'm and daddy, Yo, he had just settled the whole problem and sho he meets the ship like yeah, I'm cooling the ship. I got both. We go to Atlanta. I got some arm security with me. They're like, yo, I'm in the clubs. They like yo. Being met in the building.

They felt like everything stuff like the music, like ninety of them niggas gonna past me all ice cream and oh we died and then we're definitely gonna die tonight. But they're like they come up big security nigga come over there, Yo, meet you wanna talk to you. I'm like, oh oh, now I know what's going on because I sat there already sat there and doing this ship like the now little old yeah that in Miami. I got some real nigges that put the whole two together. Like

now I understand who these niggas is. I'm like, oh my god. I'm like all right, So now I'm like, oh my god. The big security and they say, yoh, need you want to talk to you? I'm like, you talk to me for what He's like, Now you don't say I want to talk to you. I'm like, oh my god, and my mom, I'm not there about myself with your security, Like I kid you not. I said, I fuck it. I woke over there with the big security. Big nigga come up again like Yo, tell them niggas

to go. We're gonna fuck them nigga stuf. I'm like, oh God, about security man, they said, tell him to go, tell them to leave, but we're gonna fund them niggas. And I'm like, oh god, I'm trying to keep game face. I'm like, oh, all right, it's nine of them niggas. There ain't nothing happened and a piece of Niggs they'll get out of here. I'm like, oh man, what we need meach got a stack of hunt as as big as this box, like this count of like this, like I never seen the nigga, you know, nigga had a

stack like this, Like what what's what? You want to train? And I was the first and real introduction to have when them is cool niggah like that. But man, he had me sweating, un though my ass was grass that night, Eddie, I don't remember. We went to the club. The nigga said the sport teen bottles. It was me and Eddie. Yeah, it was. It was like I'm not a drinking You're going and what was open him at the time and you go try to buy a bottle? Remember, no boa,

nothing expensive, nothing they lacking like old club. It was gos and that was that that was saying. It was different from me. So you know, I've been in Miami for a minute and from the industry that I came back their hand when I was told my first album, I I always had this thing about getting the way

and recording my albums. But I want to l a and she like that's how I want to get out because you know, I was still bust of moves and fucking with Cam at the time, and he just got me deal when I was trying to do my gym Johnking, so I still was doing whatever, and I just want the motherfucking I came there here to do the album. I got the motherfucking Yeah. I got the little mansion out here. And then I remember we squatted right that ship you know what squatters Rice says, and ship like

that we had, we did, we had that shipped. What was he talking about? What we're talking about? Squatter says like you the bulls be doing in abandoned bills and they sit there and the government can't kick them out. Ntil they Yes, people was getting and here's a no fault stake, so you can really get away with a lot of bullshit. Heard, Yes, got a crib that way, absolutely, yeah, nig That's what I did down here, my mom my mom fucking first trip down Junior album, and that's when

I met her. He an't have no a seens the squads way. They try to shut the lights and we cut the lights back on and ship like that, still dugging move and had the pool and all that though we was lit, but it just was like my total introduction to the whole Miami and the life of Miami. That's I got addicted to this ship. Like I got to meet some very interesting people and ship like that. And I became friends with some good people and ship like that. And you know, like the Haitian people became

like very good friends to me and ship like that. Actually, this whole ship, like when I see you moved down here and getting pieces of the ship like that, Like I haven't lived down here, but I've been down here for the past fifteen years, for fourteen years, fourteen lived out here twelve years. Same, you didn't do a lot of different phases to like we went from rapping to doing reagae dark to get money like that. Yeah, I definitely did. I didn't. You're a very clever duder. What's

about Juli as people think you are? Like you like we're gonna go through this school little story. See we ain't to do to Noriega, and then you put a lot of major people on. And that's how I feel. You put people on that probably make wing more way than we made ship, Like I have to do that, Like saying you're a check. So I'm guessing. No, I just m so, I just I was like, I guess I'm want to ask because I've never I've never received anything. No,

I've never received. No, I didn't. I didn't even show. Know you got wet little to help picking and mixing some ship like that. But are they supposed to play some time beha much? No. I think I think people what it is and that the let's go. Let's go your time. Since you're ready to see that, man, let's go back to what you were saying. No, what you were saying, I got you're saying. I haven't feel like like you know, people are helped out like as long as the person stands to all with me, I don't.

I don't really care because the thing about it is I look at other people, and the mistake I made in in the nineties or in the early two thousand's was I didn't give enough people opportunities to go there, like you know, because I wasn't smart enough, you know what I'm saying. So now and it wasn't that I was giving the wrong people the right jobs, you know what I mean. So now I'm giving the right people

the right jobs. I'm not gonna give a person that I know, but longs on camera the seat to behind the cab the work. Yeah yeah, yeah, so now I know, like it's like my man's Sonny with sunny. Yeah, he's he's he's been tord to watch this. Just just what's this? Howth Sunday coming here? Watching? He said, just say, yo, is Sunday one on the podcast? I bet you say something retarded? Right? This is a little so you know he belongs on camera, right, he's a great guy. Watch this,

Watch this, yo, yo? Tell him like you want my podcasts? Watch it? Is? He really? What's this? Watch? And he shells on the Food show? He watched the Shells. Just just just your Sunday you're talking about? You go over and then what's going on? What's going on? Talking to the talk to the mic? Has you ain't got a mike lea downraded you? What's going on? Man? We just just talking about how you used to be sweating? Yeah? Sometimes just what is can you show me your cream cheese?

Is that the cream cheese? Show the cream? I need to relax? That's how about the A R. Peacard? It's your pec peacard is good at its batto man everything. Yeah, happy discount. So that's that's the my bad. We just with you. But that was the mistake I made in the past. When I see people with certain characters in certain positions and I try to make them like be

like office people, I funked up. And I'm like, and I looked at things for nowadays and I'm like, you know what, there's so many internet stars, meaning these these guys that just go on Instagram when they make themselfs famous, and I gotta core people who are funny and ship and I want to put the right people in the right positions to accomplish the right things that I think that's what you do when you involved and you figure out just around me, because that's what I'm talking about,

because it's crooking about evolvement. What more we gotta relax. I think it's one last shot. I think we're gonna go to club, keep drinking his roots dressing. Let me ask you. Let me ask you, Jim, because you worked with a lot of South artists early, like I think I think I think you didn't like and not only the South artist you work with older new artists. Like if you see an artists you you go and show them love, like you share your life with them. Why

why do you do that? The younger generation is always the generation that's gonna keep you relevant and ship like that, You're like man. When I started working on South artists and ship like that, I kind of felt like the music was shifting to the South. I kind of felt that early, like this is where the sun was going. I need to tap into the SAMD so I could make some of this money and you know what I mean. And I got the South to embrace me. But working

some self artists. When I work with like the West Coast, that was just me being a fan of West Coast musically. Like my first album when I was doing the sort of fare Gangsters was the first dude had a video with Game. Yeah, that was a whole funny stood he knew how nobody knew even how he looked. We all heard stories. Now did you pull that off? The It was like a foul d DR. Damon was pist off because I'm a found I recognize another I don't even know whose games. I don't even know who game was.

This is like this has been the whole thing that's game game banging. Ship was popping and ship like that. They was like Game was easy Sun like that was this West coating like you remember me like this early though, remember like it ain't this, ain't no Instagram, no that ship like that like you did. They got this nigga named Game when the one schools Evy Son, he won't fire he blood. You gotta get him over here, blood like you gotta get in touch with them, blood that nigga.

So that's what we did. We gotta touch with Gaming, got him out here with the his holdie for a band and ship like that and just some music with me and you wells and ship like that. And then uh, I just certified gangster got to him to do the remix, something like yeo, I'm gonna come out there and shoot the video. And we're like he's like I but he not.

He not really believing me. I'm like, you dig like and I was like, I'm going out to the shoot the video, like I don't really knew too many niggas out there, and this at the time niggas was like, Oh, your niggas from York is fake gang banging. You nigg is just fake bloods. You niggas ain't really blood, you know, you did, said niggas. You niggas come out here. It's don't take take it right. Yeah, And you know I was real because I was real. I was real. I

was a real hot head about nigga ship. Nigga, this is really what we're doing over here and holding the ship like that. You ain't gonna text me know face such a such. I took the trip out there and ship like that. I end up agetting with the buoyard tribe and serious serious and and my man whackle Parou was so bumped and was sucked. You heard the game manager. No, not whack on Horney shot the whack on the two

game managing ship like that. When I when I did certified answers, whack one Hunter was locked up and shipped like that like the but shots to whack one Hunter shot of the game ship like the whacko. Though he's a you know, okay, he's a good guy. Everybody know who was who let's coasting ship like that like you did our in l a A and bomped in the ship like that, one of the big homes and ship. I'm sorry, do you need to grind? No? No, I don't like one when you know it smokes a different

one little ship and this stick. I don't realize it's a different smoke. That's how you know you ain't want That's how I like to do it too, because when you're runing the weed is it don't smoke the same as when you just when you when you break your damn by hand. I promise you, SI, you really Puerto Rican. The pool is different. It's not another black nigger who'll do that. I'm just doing that's Puerto Rican. I'm just throwing, just throwing it out there, braking that definitely. Family and

all they was telling me, I gotta out there. She's like eighty years old. She was in the house byself and she was like, they gotta get out of there because they are the house is damaged. She's been waiting online for seven hours and get accepted. It's just it's crazy. Just did the show. We did a whole show dedicated to Puerto Rico, and I think just you know, the

audio boom, whatever you make up that show. We should just get that away, ye show with the gear where we get the gear too, Yeah, I don't have that. When my family put together one of the stages with the like buses full of supplies and stuff and what I didn't help him out on all that type of ship. Then they took the two busses down to uh Jack Jenkie. You have a center with fat Joe. Pick up up to that big up and ship like that, you know

what I mean? Like you know, I called I pick up on Puerto Rican stud I gotta I'm Puerto Rican. And you got the flag too, like you gotta flag. I don't know too much. I don't know too much Spanish and ship like that. But you don't gotta know Spanish for the weekend, Puerto weekend. I say, that's a fast nigga. I don't know ship. I don't know. Teach it on the pot going west because that's my favorite meal.

That's what I'm like. But you know what, I did a whole Spanish album, nigger like, and I ain't don't speak Spanish. It's okay. I'm gonna creative, people, I'm gonna creative. I had a span. It had the number one reggae throwing record. One more Shot, he remember before more Shot? I got you gotta board a shot though. No, but no, if I'm talking, you got a court now, no, because you bought the best type of shot. Part just where is it? All right? No, no, don't because you might

you might get you get it. You got two very specific questions. Okay, because you were talking. But when y'all were talking about the South stuff, when Camp said, and I forget the name of the relationship, where the fund y'all start bouncing, here's about jay Z? I know, but I felt like he was talking about you in general as well. No, yeah, but that's because remember, don't got your sus question for you look question answering. Look when he said, he said, because that's get some window York

stock bounds. Since when New York start bouncing? What was jay Z record out at that time with your bounce? No, I don't know the jazz bounce with origin get Yeah, you're right, yeah, I had the what what I knew exactly was so like damn saying what what? Like I mean, I felt like that can't was in the same now like I knew what he was talking about me, and it was like he guys like he didn't care one. Yeah,

I'm taking I'm sorry, I can't. I went for I can't say if he was talking about something some talking about every I know, I know that at that time that we were fans of Yeah, but he's like he killed what I said. Damn. That was always Kim took a lot of shots and the music. He was a very very dope artist when it came to wrapping it.

And I think it was different than ship like to the you know what I mean, Like he ain't back down from nobody long his time, and ship like that, and he always knew that to get to get counting. Since when New York starts bouncing, he was talking, Man, come on, I don't know my story right now, I can see it says accurate. It sunds right, doesn't Man? You know that you want I think you're right, But it just felt like we're also talking to I don't want to see. I've been through so much ship with

Kim and ship like that. I mean in our travels and ship like that. I'll be forgetting a lot of the little ship that we've done and ship like that. We've done a lot of spiffer ship on purpose just to get our name knowing and get our face. No ship like that, we was the kings of that ship like we were. We were doing the same exact thing,

just a different spaces. That's why we always sunk with each other because we and like I said, in a lot of ways, a lot of people can they're gonna, they're gonna there's some of the in their nerves gonna kill me. But me and Cam in my opinion, or like the the new version of an oz and hole like it's a different version because you know what I see, I uh, I didn't care, like I was just retarded and he was to fly Hall of Nigger with the

crazy they go behind them. Then they have freaky Zeki and then they bring in jewels because at first, first was always because freaky freaking know What's what I'm saying. It was a cam freaking at first. That's that's why I That's what I saw. And then later on didn't you bring jewel? And then duels made it seemed like you guys are a company. Now you know what I'm saying, That my my correct percenter. Yeah, you know what I mean, because it might be this is this is now, this

is just me. It's my eye vision. Now let me coming in. But we're gonna spoke another one and we're gonna take one last night. You can go, We'll go go go, Yeah, everybody go here. One of my favorite seasons, big ol, right, and I know that can was children at the Corn and all that. You have any big girl stories, con big big one just about my memory

is a big others that he always was flying. He always kept his braids crispy, be in the skate key he'd had it on the fective frame, the guard text boots like he had all the pe Pele's and ship like that. He was old even rank he did didn't rappers like he was like he was like a guarden hall him at the time, especially to us because he was one of the first people to get a deal out there. Him and him a girlfriendship like that. So you're doing music. That was when Cam and Blood shift

and everybody was trying to get on. So that whole uh ship they was doing with motherfucking big al was was pipical and ship for him at the time, big El was he was. He was. He was ill back in the days as far as for a youngster and ship like that. You keep in minding, we're fifteen sixteen in high school and ship like that when all this what's going on, Like that's what people don't understand it

ship like that. He wasn't no grown men when they started in their rap career were starting wanted to be rappers and ship like that like these Niggs was doing this ship in tenth for levels grade like I don't know if big Al was old and nothing like that, but he was also a teenage to two and ship like that. So it just was spoking and ship like that. And it goes to show where hall M was all about.

Like most people started as a young teenager. In Hallm too grown up as he tells me that we had to come outside and become our own man and our own women and ship like that. That's why you look at the drug trade and just like in Queens and ship like that. Like like so it was like we was destined. As I looked back, ship was just asting. It happened for for cam and and and I happened to be lucky to be able to be affiliated with the ship. And I just a little bit smarter than

most people and ship like that. But Piggett was one of the dope ones and ship like that. It was nasty when it come to the rhynds and ship like that. I don't know, he used to be battling in the jam, like and he was supposed to take him the rocket fill at some point. I don't know that story ship like that. I just remember how he had a bad breakway when he put out the record. Uh you know, um when Tupac put out the record with the same beat, Um, yeah it was it was American. Uh yeah that it

had Mace was on the record. Yeah yeah. And then Tupac with the same same beat out and took that ship to a whole I used to know body to think about it like that, like that's crazy. Ship like that happened, and ship like that. I think it happened to him twice with somebody else with did one of his beat and tippers with another loving and ship. But it was kind of harder for niggas and Halling to get on. It wasn't like it seeming like nigging from the Bronx and Brooklyn and Queens was getting on way

faster than niggas from Hallawa. So every time every time somebody from halland about on, it was just like a parade, like damn, he got somebody about to be in the game and it comes, you know what I mean, Like he kind of was like the lead the niggas was cheer leading fro him and ship like they had some type of pride and ship like that when when you see see somebody from Halling getting something and you know,

being on TV. He's always big with teenagers nigga like you did you see dig every them doing videos and video music boxing tad and we're going to school all these things. A little TV and ship like that. Like on the other record he had that that the beat was the biggie joint one More Ye Yes, which one more Chance kicks on the big the remix. Yeah, I think I think to put it on. Yeah. Yeah, So he got cheated twice on some big hits that yeah capitalized.

It's crazy right now a question for both of y'all. Hollow is probably the first place in New York to be gentrified. Now it's like Brooklyn there the Clintons when they went in, because the Clayons, the Clintons moved in and Thences then they got the star blocks and she got rid, got rid want to raise the home. What's the hopefully the who hos ancient naming hole, but hopefully they got what's that white ship? It just makes some

noise have a white ship because it's bad. You said wood areas, like when this is the way this, this is all warehouses, this is the hood kid hood. To be exact, still can get wrong dress all types of ships outside. It's like that at home, it's just getting gextrified. But you may go turn down around block. You still could get because it's the projects, four million dollar kind across the street. My whole thing with getrification is that I don't think they give enough people from the neighborhood

the jobs. That's not the plan. Maybe the planners to get us. I don't know. I'm but that's what we're saying. That's my whole that's my whole ship. They do gentrifying and create all these jobs and do all this real estate with do create jobs and ship like that, But behind the don't get going to land and ship like that. That's how about the bar play center, because this is the bar play center. They actually employed the local, the locals.

I would love to believe that. I don't know, but I got so much coaching influence from Jay, so I got to believe that and ship like that. You know what I mean, He's only right. Do you believe hip hop people for all the influence that we have, should we start running for public office. He goes to take about this because the thing about it is right, the one thing that Trump does give us this like anybody can run like that's one of the things. We have

to have this responsible breakfastation running embarrassing, that's all. That's all really, And you gotta put the weed down that yeah, immediate. It's more when I don't see when I see these political positions as the way they do things a little different than who we are. Ship like that. It's the opinion leader and she's like, oh, the people believe in the ship like that. He's gonna be really out for the people. And ship ain't really in the grinding, you

know what I mean. But the thing about it, right, Jones, are you willing to clean up? You gotta start drinking. Come on, this is this is your pain killer's brother. I don't know, but he popped champagne. You gotta record clop champaign. We gotta do it drinking. Think about it is did we take this shot? I know a little bit, Let's take it up. So so the thing about the thing about it is right, think about this, think about this ship, I thinks think about this, right, I think

about this? Yeah, really think about a small shot Like Kanye said, he's going around for president. Right. We know Kanye, he's crazy, right, but but if he wasn't and we all followed him, then for fight. But fuck it, right, let's just let's just let's just pick up this for a second. Right, and then now Bundy says, fucking I'm running for mayor, right or governor of Houston or Texas whatever that is. She's right, boom. Now we tell hold, we say listen. That's called we need you and to

be high for president. To one for president, y'all. They hold on literally my whole ship. Yeah yeah, yea. I'll still give my funtle samettle from me. No little tam laid Yo. Look at look you eat you against look at it. Look your guards listen right, hold on, hold on, hold on. Even though young guy and young go off, we don't know what's going on them, but we get one of them to run for methish right may right,

boll Now we go to Miami, Unco Luke. But hey, we've been trying to make sure they's got a fellow. No man, this is Trump, the Trump Trump. Keep grabbing. Listen, don't give choice. He got away choice nothing but trum Trump. Suck it all up the Trump? No watch that change? What care for trush? Anybody can run nothing wrong, just become and he trusted it up. He listen, Gray Lewis can run for mayor the bottom all right, now he got a body. This is a fact. Watch politics has

been fucked up. He changed it to a smack DVD. Cannot politics to a smack down? Come on, let say that. You can't worn from nothing, that's all he is. So like you know what you're talking about? That right, Let's just right, let's go. This is some interesting ship here. Don't like I'm coming back. I'm coming back my girlfriends. Yeah you're gonna do we don't do it? Yeah, I'm going back in with my girlfriends. Come back. So I forgot it's still I'm talking about politics. So let's do

feel the meat. Now, good one, good one. I got you free way, free way that he ain't gonna felling me right well, but then he's clean enough us. Are you dreaming right now? I don't want to think about it? Is right that may me don't know what we're doing? What we what? What you want What is it? Is it sack that you can't want to get you? I don't know. I don't think so that we come nothing if you got a felon but baby office like a baby from ain't great, like a fell show nothing points.

You cannot run, you can't vote, You can't do nothing. If you can't run, Okay, that's well, you can't run, but we do with anxiety, but hold only less to become to be able to run for president. Changeless called me about this point, trying listen to this point even though even though he's correct, right, thet's suppose you can't have a fellow league can't hype but that speaking understood. So but even though if Jay had a fellow lea, I think it would beat he ran for public office.

I think it would back. Or he could just coast the clo you don't have to run for office. He could a hut run for all of us and be her coach us. Wait, yeah, like the man a police, I've been down to be hot. Happen that's happy. I would be hot. You gotta tell you women don't. That's a fact. Beyonce co all, this's a fact. So Sid opening for beyond bank over its millennials. Millennials. We need we need said listen open but kid, he said, the biggest bell of kid. It's up to the Cenator house

to the side. Why served ship? I'll ship yo, y'all. Sime he counts up production cab anyway for election of poor how about that? And don't let's make some nois girls running over? I love this country country at listen, I say they did a left frack left frack shit. Thank going with for office. I'm gonna hus carr. I got that, y'all. Got that, y'all. That y'all and I'm not stopping smoking. But none of that, none of that. I'm like, yes, I don't have money, but the flavorly

like you got that puff like puffing. Yeah, well, I mean looking at du in Canada, that was openly smoking cracket. He got real licted. He was a lot of was a little he got relaxed. Yeah, Marry and Barry tried to get hurt out. We take cohol, fay out. I can't be a feed and be the office. We ain't gonna. I can't do that. I'm gonna be a felony. Can't

be a feed with that hurt like, yeah, relaxed. It's not it's not doneable now reasonly, Yoe Joe, Joe, momuck, brother, my nigger, you had the internet on right, I'm out here. I ain't gonna live. I would have stayed. Listen. It was about birthday. Listen about listen. Tell me you do this, brother, Joe, let me tell let me tell you, let me let me I call him. No, if you're as, I'm gonna go to Christie Jack. He's Joe Jack. We're gonna tell Joe joy y'alla. I don't really know. I couldn't make

that cool. I said yeah. I said, yeah, you can't go, y'all. I said, y'all, just tell me when you're putting on a pull up to the Proud the airport, I must you can draw myself and she like that. Next thing I know, I'm there. I see y'all have on the plane by happy Bird. Just not for Nigga in the nut first saying about listen, listen, this is what happened. You know me, I want to stay. I went to the St. Regis. I don't know if y'all Nigga is no. This is my birthday. I really wanted to stay and

I'm a double U nitna. Everybody know that about me. You look at my stays, I'm a w nitna. But when I go to the st regis, it's different. I just don't want to go, y'all. So bat Joe coas to me, I got a birthday Tellers. So Bot Joe comes to Mark Dner. He goes, We're gonna die, my damn yo. They just sat humpy birthday when he's watching the weather before He's gone, you through your party in the middle of hurrican Practically, I did not know because I really didn't watch the news. I just really I

was having fun and what my family be chilling. I have no idea that, like, like how serious this ship was. So we're in prime we in and then he quolls me to the sign again listen because he said it at first like in front of everybody, and then he said it again, listen. I'm thinking about getting the PJ because we're gonna die. And I said, it's my birthday. We really had to talk about death? What? And I said I might just saying me just this ship is

gonna home, It's gonna hold out. I was like, listen, listen, listen as deliving in Miami in the past twelve years. Know, they always say something about a hurricane and sometimes just missing up so to fake up it isn't hit a miss So every plenty of times I left and I spent so much money and I was like, damn, I'm gonna just stayed home. So this time I want to It's my forty and birthday to y'all. I'm just trying to plead with God. Like you my nigger, can you?

I said my day? You said, I'm taking my chance? Is that the same week that's why Jimmy called me. He said, come to me. I said, now I'm staying so right, So it's the very last minute, the saint we just called me and my wife, my wife come away. You want to you want to speak about it? You want because me and my wife, my wife want to leave, by the way, right. But I'm like, I'm like, this's my forty and man, I'm never gonna be forty again.

I'm not gonna do this trying to listen to this. Listen, listen, I'm trying to say. And then at the very last a minute, like this is we can checked in. Be good. They gave me the they gave me the private the ship with the private elevator, y'all. The ship opened up and and then Joe called me a good and said, y'all, I got the I got two seats for you. And I said, ah, y'all. And I'm stoking bent, so I

hang out like I'm still not. Then the same regions called, and you know, I'm always on the balcony, so I never don't answer the phone. When the hotel ship called, so the same we just called. Then my wife face just got real. You know. At first, she's like, I think she booked the SPA and everything. She's like, yeah, we're gonna keep my saw just the mob we would. We didn't take this ship serious and her ship were like and I knew it was bad news because you know,

it's a soundproof ship. Little I'm looking at my white bags a little two and I was like, damn. And then I hear Joe back. I said he got through two seats left, all right. They evacuated us from the same records. Goddamn it crazy. It was crazy. Yeah, well, I try to canty go home, okay, right, I wasn't nothing, so I trying to get it to go home to meet me in New York. I cleanly, it's come clean the house, all type of ship. Now I'm on the way home, on the plane calling I'm about to go

home because why did you stay? Period, I'm skinned to that. I'm not going. Don't lie, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna nowhere. So now I'm like I'm trying. She was like, this said so now I'm trying to be like, I'm like, I'm going on so that I'm speaking of this whole time. I'm like, yeah, I'm going. Mom, like you're bugging you, you show you safe, like I'm not realiant. She's like, now I'm good. I'm good. I get on the plane. She hit me with this, oh you are you're going

to New York. That's what you're doing or else you're doing. You're going to New York. Like I'm like, oh, run off the plane like I can't go. I can't right plane, I'm running together, Ya can't go, you can't go. Mexic sucking at me like and then you know there's student like, oh my god, let's sticking a Mexicans. I've run off the plane. They grabbed my bags and ship. Then they got police, right up on me, like, yo, why did you run off that plane? You know that police want

to be in the airport. Yeah, gotta get to that later, but did you run off that plane? I'm like what, I had it tight and she's stuck in Miami and the fucking storm. She don't want to leave. So I gotta fly down here today to fly out of here tomorrow so we could get out the storm. I get in and it was a rat like shots the chech you don't cheech m. Yes, yes, I canna trying to escape with me. When I got to check, when you let us listen to the real story, I didn't even right,

you've happened? Was I didn't want to leave. I was really stuffing. I didn't want to leave. Someone the fact. Don't finally tell me, I said. I get on the plane and then I post the ship and the fans is killing me. They're like, yo, you don't see what Joe, And I'm like, minds you? Because I posted it before we take off. I didn't even looking at my phone and then I looked and I said, oh ship. I called him. He said, yeah, y'all, I she said. I was like, he said, yeah, I'm here for some reason,

your boys got bad a little. It's like, yeah, I just missed that star. And then everybody in the world called me and said, you know you see what jim Yo like you was out there weather reporting was wild and I was talking to the beach to see it. It was yeah, I was risking my life to save her. She come going to the beach. I'm like, no, we're not going to be like I want to see the beach. I'm like, no, I'm going to the beach and I'm getting dressed. She came back fully dressed, like I'm going

to the beach. I go get dressing like old What did you have on when you fully got dressed, like hoodie like I did, sweatshirt and leg instance, snicking sunglasses, saying when blowing my eye because I want to see some ship. And then y'all went out there experienced it. Yes, I got my hurricane wing. We got scared out there on the beach. You just on the way back to me. We should have drawn roll to the We don't get up, and she's like, we should have drove the truck. She's like,

I told you what she'd We're running back. The winter's blowing us so hard slapping us back for that other forecast were black to you. So think about this. You love us though I didn't even know y'all was there from yeah right, you drink cord Awards absolutely still drinking about sometimes for some beat Chevy's going I type of the ship was she like bot on the wise, like understanding Jets fans, like what, You're not going to fifty

two right now? I'm not temper niga like I'm sunk with the giants soul, all right, So telling you so if it was wise, what flavor he was getting barbecue? You know why? I saw vinegar crazy. I sat, honey, you got one of that you eat ball talk with telling me to think times Jost the big face, no boss, that's what she was. Big I was was a limited head shoes was cool, It was okay. It had some us barbecue. I told you said the old manually wear pepper. He said, he never wore pepper. I think it's going

to southing. He never did too much dispect, don't disrespect, don't disrespect. That's a whole different error. You would never know about pepper. Jis and a clean pit. I was once for the whole rid because that was not even something like that. That was a string of New York pepper j cross Jesus were not a fair right. He stopped me. I was like, wow, you're special tea ninety two high school pepe jpecially if you girls girls just when Edwin's yeah, it was big in Miami. Here, my girl,

Jesus chick, what your bowls? Your balls had? Had your bows balls had? You know what your balls is? Fly because of grand Pooball. Yeah, that's right, grand this who you win this nigger. You're not gonna take claim with your bowls. We're gonna we're gonna get this ship right now. Religion, grand food, right, We're gonna get it, true religion. That's what you did for them I did. It's a true change to take your way back to change funnier. He's like my style, he did. He loved me New York

make a style. You think that's the South stick they adore? Our stall is the method which I'm not taking any He's betting busy right now. He's stealing rose. He's saying rose fat from now, stay focused, grand new and Grande. He got that. I did true religion. I don't know the story. Ye talk about that the old shoo chains. You can't answer my nigga, you did double back boys and all that. He popping that vibe record is crazy

right now. It's a vibe. You're trying to slide. You're trying to get this somewhere you can put on this a vibe right now. That's all I like that. You know why I like niggas like us, Jim, It's because we don't mind showing love to the new generation. Like that's why I think I from the new generation. Yeah, but I'm just saying it. But like even I can't get this new generation. If she was a regular, he's but he's a kid. He's fighting. Seeing him, I see

that nigga everywhere I think i'd be seeing me. I'll see him in the soul land. Know something, Nigga, not the house is like that. He said, Nigga, you're letting and I have flowers on my jacket. I said, yeah, we started like you got don't care. Listen, listen, let's get to it. Nig Nigga told me back in the day, listen to go. It's as simple as this, But nowadays it's different because there's a lot of crazy ship going on. There's defferently dressing different. I ain't gonna get into that.

Back in it, I think it was like, yeah, if you press mute on the TV, Now, that's how to tend. Everybody looked like it from New York. That's all you did that, like like, that's that's where all the style come from and ship like that. I like to say, everything, come hall because I'm just a harna. We fly like you gotta relax New York. It's all of us collectively. But go all the way back to where women like so as a kid from left Frack right, Yeah, you get left Frock was live, they could not dress. I

don't care what they but they couldnt dress. Listening is a little different. Man, snow get busy, you get fly, you want queen, Listen, listen, hold on, hold on. But you gotta remember. If you're saying slowest fly, you gotta remember that came from the preme era and that money get back. I'm saying, how niggers, Yeah, you's got it's the true. Here's one point you gotta respect. At one point, all the Columbia, all the coke came from Columbia. We

look a call came from Columbia. What y'all gotta really realize. It's Griselle de Blanco came to Queen because all the hall of niggas could come more ways. And that's the reason why we migrated right then and there. That wasn't for Coe because if you was done, you still win up town. If you was done, you still went uptown. Because now you're just paying that price to go out town. We went to Queens to get it. Griselda had it. She had it right in Jackson Heights, d J. Jackson,

because that's active. Somebody yesterday was talking about there talking about like you always have co conversations like you was talking about Colombians and all that ship. That was what you've seen all these Nonckles movies. Day was y Yeah. Now we were talking about Queens and in the mission that's like, why do you think now talking about Colombians ain't talking out a dream nigga. They was dead and they showed in the New York really like I think,

oh yeah, but in real life, I'm just showing. I'm just telling you, like what happened was one of my niggas. Uh, we was going to town so much. I wan listen I'm I'm like, I'm kind of like a Real Hall guy. I used to go to three Wise Man. You know when Biggie made that song called Machine Ain't gunn Front. Yeah, you don't even know. That's a bag of we from some weeks when I called three Wise Man like I used to. I think I did work for Branson on the law. I uhould go yeah, yeah yeah from Real

Hall was like that someone was a delicacy nigger. He was talking like phonehead. I was a jaw. He was like, yo, how at school? Yeah? Because you have it was like nigga. There was a point that you pulled out. Jason Charlie was like God, like, can I tell yourself that? You know? I was born and raised in right Prance has been around since I was forever. You know who really really really made me appreciate brandson Ja Kiss travel from Yonkers. Look when you stopping, what's going to back? What you

got this religions? Since since you since you got all this history, talk to me the history ship. All right, let's go. Let's talking about you know, actually, you know big remember Big Face, Gary, Big Face and the problem. I think y'all revolutionize the street team game. I think I mean personally because I was working in the streets for a dip set and all that. Didn't you have

a lot to do with that yourself. I mean, well, I always combined everything that I've seen in a hip hop game and usually for what we needed to do as a different master. Me and Cam used to call it m W way rules. It was like premeditative murder. We we knew that we didn't get a powerful like m w W we get to do behind us. We can kind of get into to do what we want. But the most important thing was being connected to the streets and me being affiliated with the Bloods and all

that type of ship. It just felt like we was in people houses and ship as far as Hard was concerned, and we wanted to bring that ship to everywhere, and we was like, we need a strong street team to kind of post up. And one of the things we always remember was that Ben's that Damon Jay had and they put the rocket Feller loveral on it with the buggy ears and ship like that, you know what I mean. And I was like one of the most powerful promotional

I don't think this could have used. And we was like, man, that street week and then we just started getting busy and street, little doom and a lot of Yeah, that's that's who he was, like in high school when we first goes kind of a lot of the stuff he was in the high scene another night. Lava was just responsible for a lot of the street team that went on with the diplomats, a bunch of snow other young kids and ships that came up that's still in the

game now and ship like that. But that was when you could do post snipes and it got too It goes to the budget thing you were saying before too. It wasn't different, but it got to a point when it was putting the posters and then the fucking uh New York City did police and ships all getting giving Unix star get locked up, get locked up. But it

was just the vision. Keep in mind you got no Internet, I mean, well who was It wasn't Internet, but it wasn't using it like especially it was social media, especially falls the Coach period, the Internet period like this, so fast action and ship and social media is a whole

another story. Ship it was. It was the time when you have that, so the only thing you had was the visual aspect of using the streets and ship like that getting on the Howard was posting up bill boys, getting the people faces old type of ship like I would. We would think of the most craziest ship we could think of too. And then he sent aunt Livet to go do it like I like, uh, working, No, I don't even know. He's still getting I remember he's still getting it. He said, he's doing a bunch of ship.

I seen at the Balltydom. I remember when I told him we just Jay has said, uh, who is Jim Jones? I remember, want an interview back from the day, like who is Jim Jones? And I'm like, who is him? Jones? I said, you're a lot with jay Z, gonna be at the radio tomorrow. Tain't the whole High ninety seven with a thousand posts and say who is Jim Jones?

Actually jay Z? So when Jay walked into building, he see nothing but that her man, he broke, call me you got more than to call Nick Bick, call somebody to wake me up, Like yo, money, nib If you don't tab some money, come to all there. We do not playing on your music no more. That's how powerful G was back when I was doing and I was had power when I was doing ball and that's how powerful he was. And if you don't have somebody, and you know I had somebody, come go clear, yo. The

politics of this game is crazy. When you got power, you've got power. Was nothing to fade that too, or I actually meant an when I said big face even though big face was that epic right, the big Face that rocket front, because I thought were both of them money were the street teams. This was a major part of of a lot of Rappids career and ship like that. If you didn't have no visual everyone, that's part of

budget everyone. We had a streight team were laying in Miami, land in Atlanta, were land in the Midwest, like you had. The street team was there and they go when you land, you go to the club, posts up all type of ship out on the front like it was just like it was a real running machine and ship like that. Like I'll tell you one year I did so much towards your depth jam right that I had did it.

It was just one tour. So you know, you realize that when you go to the town when you want to tour, that is people there's the other people want to tour that they know the Street Team. So what I used to do was when you land, you know you can't bring the buses through parts to the city. You let the park that bus. So what I learned from is I put the hummer on the back and I remember you remember I put the hummer. I had b the hummer put on back of the back of

the motherfuckings on the hitch. Oh. I had harry artists hating the niggas were rich to the town. Anybody wanted the street team, Street Team niggas to come get me, we go. We got the humble like yo, y'all got to relax, and we go straight to them all to get fresh and the artists and went to death Jam and said why y'all like nor me more? I think he said, no, we don't. He created his own ship, you know what I mean. If you gotta relax, we got our backs. Used to think he used to die

to have a deaf jam jacket. Let him one him to be signed the death Cham like yo, Jeff Jam was a dream and the guy, I don't know if it's still a dream like that. But when we was coming up, he was damn with death Jam and nigga Jam didn't that was the end. Wen't on to talk. He was getting damn. It felt like he was had TD blowing death jam back in the David, we're gonna pop the Big Boy Jones popping but back you know what I was saying, it's a kid from black as

a kid from this friend. Yeah, we don't we don't need, don't know pop that pop please because it not it's gonna be a Champagne shot. So noya as a kid from that as a kid from left for a like ye after all the ship we've been talking some motion. I'm in you can do an interview me asked for that. Got your forty. On birthday, we'll be in Miami and this ain't reads when you do. Fat Joe gotta rescue you with the fat to fly you out of you. And that's a big nigga ship right there, like mad stubborn.

Because it's like I was like so that that ship needed to watch. Yeah, I know, I know that I wanted to do the rich ship. I was due, yeah, but I had to do that. I gotta thank Fat Joe the options we have like nigga if a nigga regular stuff that was dope. I gotta thank Fat Joe type of options. You gotta thank fat job Sad think about the hip hop community exactly exactly when they made that secret society that we have amongst all. The ship is powerful when they like exactly exactly, and that's the

crazy ship is again. I'll be thinking like I was. Sometimes I see a wife, but I've been thinking like you you you don't live out here, like how I live out here? And that that let me know from that instance, because everybody from of the fans killed me. They were like, how the fund yea thinks leaving Jim Jones And I was like what And I called you the real story. I called that said because he was concerned. And I was concerned because waiting fans Instagram and all, yeah,

I was, I really was. And then niggas said, didn't I mean because I didn't Obviously I didn't put. I just called Jim Jones, you know, okay on Instagram or whatever. But then niggas it's like, y'all, Jones ship is lit, yo, Because at one point everything in Miami was out. So Whenniga started watching the news and they were pouring on Jim's Graham, this ship was amazing. I'm like, yo, He's like, yo, I'm seeing regular people. I'm just just regularly going off

there and regular people. Was like, oh yeah, I ain't watching that ship. I don't watch the CNN. I'm watching Jim Jones. Jones watching was like I was a kid. I ain't going from a man man one of my sisters. And when Nigga Reggie hid be like, Nigga, you stucked out there, Nigga, and you would port a lot on grant. You're gonna go super viral. He said, tell you that before. Really I didn't recue is doing. He's like, niggad terrorist in the middle. It should be on the water by

the way that you have a balcony. A terrorist for people in the hood. I'm going to find scared out to take your guys power. No, nothing, nothing. I can't even win out for a day. And that was good. We was good. We just drove each other crazy, but we're pretty much that we was feeling the new ship. We chilling me. Had so much fun feeling the new ship. That was the funniest. That was the funk promp part of the whole being trapped in the storm and it's

it's a whole condominant idea. We are gone for saying here, that's just round when I'm trying to round relaxed, I try to relax, yea. Well look well listen, this is the big boy. Listen, Joan dude, we'd be having people coming on the park and said, we pull. That's that's called that's a little doorf right there. Yeah, that's what that's that's mention. Because now they don't let me be called midget y'all. I'm sorry, person, a little person. I apologize.

I mean your favorite rapper, granddad of you baby, that was old time, the old cares one best Balkin Coogi raps. If you put them four together and they say him again, I'm granddad of you car this one Cougie rat, the biz Markey if you put them all together, because of Bismark always because biz Mark always had fun, he always said, I think he said, and if you listen to my rounds, I always want to make niggas have fun and laughs. You know you say something like that because biz Mark

touched my life's around the planet. Yeah yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying that Like Nick didn't even know what I'm talking about. You know what I'm saying, y'all, you know what I mean. I said, I brought a candle. I would laughs around the inlis channel. Tunes, I got a cock and span. You said, when you burn a candle, you know, it's wondering what mindset you was in. Okay, break it down for your sis. When when I say I light a candle, that's because somebody just you know,

passed away light a candle. So I'm so mad. I run laps around in this channel. In this channel is the biggest body of water. I'm trying to be smart right now, right, so run laughs around in this channel and that tunes. I got a cock and spaniel. Back then, we didn't call guns guns. We call them dogs. So a cacka spaniel will be the That was awesome. I mean, I know, I know I'm sounding stupid to the world. I never knew that. That's That's the ill sh about

sucking hip hop. It's like you got different dialects. That's when hip hop is. Every game or every every place of every side of every b got a different you did, and we do. You know what Baby Niggas was talking about when they first came out, We had to learn all that something with baby master g you dig like then he said, you just suck me up with that. Yeah, I was calling don't know that my neighbor at that time, but we were so fucked up because the police was

watching everything and we didn't know, so so a cruel. Yo, Yo, mister Lead, you're gonna suck it up? Pop this? Can you bother this? You know you're scared, but I'm doing scared. You bop it because people I don't like. You got a shout out the shot shot sponsors away. Yeah, just look the else called holy squalid squalid right here. We have to catch on that. They listen pay kill people. Are you so serious because I don't know how experious champagne people open it. Yeah, I just feel like that

should all the town you need. That's right, tell them, sister, I don't possis from Yeah, yeah he got that. He was listen to me. Listen, I'm about to tell you some sh like this. No, you were like you know you realize that, you were like you realize hip hop is his own language, right like spa Like you realize, right, lazy you want to drink some ships, I don't know, drink no DrAk no drink I'm from Paris right now, your name is you? See Pierre to say it was

a nickname PM. It was a nick NAMEPM, my hood night st Nigga curly I am like and he was too pretty. You had to name the match like you got your name, par He like the name. I don't even like you with ship that he like obi show, Oh my god, like see I'll be shot lights. Yeah, giveing it to you. Yeah, come on, come on, come on baby, you got your drink. Be doing that? Look at that Jesus, you know, like back what I was saying, right,

I say you, I'm gonna sure you. I'm gonna sell you for some funny ship because you know hip hop, like like how strong hip hop is, so how strong this the hood is or just or the white people for erban urban culture and which they learning, which they try to talk about. We're gonna make a whole language for your CALLI bonnics. Fun with you bonnix but like it's like speaking Spanish like hip hop. So if you in a white neighborhood and you'd be like, yo, I'm gonna pull up on you. Who got the gas? So

who got to leave? You did? But listen listen. So if you go to a river, if you go for a quite person to sell them ann pull up on, you gonna need some gas or some leaning. What the press shout taking the shot you did? It's crazy if you have a yes only in Kentucky? Yeah? Is that? Is that? How you do that? Sins every product? I know you when you was in Ko time. You still know me when I'm going to Ktucky. Someone doing something tucky day. But that's a whole another story. They got weird,

I will have nothing got home here. It's like you like but listen only I said, you want to hear when I first heard about Lean it's a hip hop story. My patient friend who it's a hip hop story. Hip hop story. You know who get your spade is Philadelphia Boggs. All right, So we was going on. He was going to who was going to just came home for the body and shout out to Spain. He was going to Miami to chew the Puffy World toy and Dutch Space

has got son Entertainment. Your retort bus we Trollie Bolt to him and the nigga Dutch the light skinned one. He like yo, he like yo. I'm about to drink that I'm about to drink this ship and don't even don't you worry if I don't wake up, I'm gonna be sleeping all the way to Miami. Don't worry about that ship on his spie we called we call it ship scissor man. That's what we're doing, shilling. It's like,

what what the fund are you talking about? I swear to guard he drank that ship in New York on twenty six set there but under them all as that nigga didn't wake up until we got to Miami. That was my first introduction in wing bis my nigga. I was like what I feel, you know, Vaney stake property and all our ship. And then remember I had nigga Houston for a while. I end up buying the club out there called Club Dip Set. This is why I wun how crazy that glean ship was like in Houston.

That fucking ship is a whole nother world music scissor Yo. I was like, yo crazy. So when I got a chance to when I came back after I lost the club, God blessed Norman de raising ship like that and not left Houston. I love you so us is one of the throw these places in America and ship like that.

When I came back to New York, this is when, um, you actually won't After Cam I got the rocket Feller, there was a couple of people asked me up there and I gotta nick asked me, uh, if you had a chance to do with liquor, what was you name it? I'm like, what I name it? Licking scissor. But this is at the time that that's what Lee was called back there. Just at the time we were drinking Laza and Hennessey and that whatever you did, I was like naming scissor, but I want to make it purple, and

I want to make it just like Alaza. So if you don't even drank scissor, it was like the same form of Alisa. This was purple and ship like that to meditate the marketing market marketing scheme. And I was like, I know all of South Nakas and the West Niggas and they don't know what sissor is like that you did. So I just went hand with the ship and you know what I was with. Me and Cam went through our ship, so we had a chance to tell you. I'm gonna tell you a funny thing about the scissor bit.

I never I never fought my scissor right. So Jones did me. He said, Yo, norm, I need you to do a drop for me. I was like, y'all, I'm not mad this thing. It just coming in my career. I said, I'm gonna let you gotta do a drop, and you gotta do a song. You gotta hang out for you do day is a stupid I said, you gotta have the stupid like the first thing you had studio madicine, That mong the dirty, second madicine. Sex was

feeling right here, y'all. Y'all like that you bran, but yeah, yeah, we had roaches and rats, but it was a mad that my ship was gandy fire like yeah yeah, And you know what I was doing. I was invoice is one of the first hip hop things that had to be on the studio I was in. I got most Joe goes out to him when you had just studio just because he thinks, don't give me that props there and you probably you probably own niget that notice let

me in voicing. What happened was, I've seen I went somewhere and they invoiced me for just walking in there. And then I said, oh, ship, but I didn't listen to a beat, and I realized, damn, they can't actually do that. And I said, oh Ship, but I ain't gonna do niggas like that. I'm not gonna let you walk in my joint. Listen. That's why you tell the niggas you're here. Look, I got a fact machine. I discovered something called the Facts. But it's so crazy a

little I got the boy nine they have them. So what happened? Everybody? If they use their homeboy, they couldn't get those checks. So I always told everybody, say listen, do come you using free? I don't give a fun, but you use it, but tell you a label. So I had every artist in the game just coming to the Hood Lab. They're like, Yo, Pumble, I'm gonna tell my studio I was here for three days. He said, no problem. They said, but you know, no, I'm gonna

hit for one day. No problem. You had the whole joint. We had the hotel across the street. We would go to the hotel. We were just chill. We had balcony, and and that was a whole hustle. I did for like ten years. God damn it gonna be honest. I'm gonna be. We started Homes had that ship before base in Death Cham. When Kim got to the Rock and fellow dealing ship like that, you know, I I started.

I've been in so many sessions, even the first session I've seen pro Tools that was like, we're one of the white engineers that Camp had bringing the big protel in New York, Like this is about we didn't think is when we started recording those rails. Yeah, yeah, yeah, carry a little person first. The first was about this high on wheels and ship like that. So I was watching pro Tools for them. You really couldn't punch it because you punched in they had the tapes to tap it.

So it was like this one you have to listen to your wraps at home, looking to the beats at home and come to the studio and already remember the ship like that. To the pro Tools came and ship like that. So Kay I used to watching all the motherfucking engineers and then Cam got signed the Death Cham. Then when he was in the studio, they'll be always assistance there, but the assistants know everything. The engineers know.

I was like, I Cam, you know I know how to record, Like, yo, let me get the engineer was thinking, all right, you ever heard of the inbox. Yeah, I'm the one who made the inbox famous inside of the hip hop game. Not to say nothing like that. So uh, let's take it there. Cam had an engineer in car all out, you have a call out of engineering ass Chinese, Chinese ni name call, I got one, you got you got a backwood. That's that's the new Jim Jones. I used to know this nigga, right, he's nig call out

with em for camp. Okay. I was like when Crochees, I wasn't even call out. It ain't know where to be able to do that, to be able to do studio sessions in the laptown Like yeah, Rocky Ron niggas do it all the time. I'm like, gut, like I'm making it work right now. Something. He like, rock and roll niggas do it all the time. On the ship called mbox. You're going with, go get the whole rig, get inbox something, beauty cables. Let me tell you what the mike to get in all that. He was like,

and I'm gonna show you how to do it. So I got the M box and everything. And I came back to call out and I was like, yeah, got everything that he was a guy, So I'm gonna show you how to actually recall the ship like that. So he showed me on in the studio how to add she recorded when I go on the road, I can take the mbox with me and ship like that. I remember in l A when l A had the All

Star h what's the All Star Game? And I, like everybody was at years ago, Wait what all Star game was that in l A with all the rappers was at it was? It was? It was? And I remember how I was in this hotel and busted in the mall camem sters and I blew the socks over. When I came back to New York and I was showing Damon him Damon had canceled everybody from Rocket Fellow studio sessions, everybody by M box and ship like And that's how that whole M box ship went from me showing Dame

to him showing Rocket Feller to everybody. Now with them studios in the house, they got that shipped for me and ship like that. So when I learned how to record from Carlin, ship like that in the camp started recording that only ye let me just be engineer. And he's like, yo, I'm gonna let you be engineer if you funk what I'm gonna suchon said, I'm not letting you do this ship no more like I ain't got time. They're playing with you like that. I'm like a camp.

These niggas is getting eleven was in a week nine thousand, a week for just engineering. You a session, nigger, I need that nine thousand, And I said, he got assistance in there. They knew everything the engineer. Now I'm gonna get the bomb assistant whatever. I don't know. I made him do he like Bennett Man. That's how I started getting all that that that studio engineering like that, so that that was my side fit because and I was like, right, fellow, camp,

that's when I start that furniture. Yes, that's that's what it was. So many students and I'm told you no, I'm telling you listen. I used to go to the studios and then I went to one student where it really didn't work. I just went there and I listened to a nigga beats and the nigger voiced me, and I was like what And I was like, that's kind of foul because I was friends with these people. So I said, you know what, what if I put you on though, I said, look, this is my address in

my studio. They can't debate this. I'm on thirty second in Madison. They literally filming sex in the city right there. You tell them you got a certain holyst and put more on, man and whatever you put. I fust you that I had every nigga in the motherfucking's cities to furniture. Guys were Destiny's DUDEO, you had to wing on. I had to say balcony. The niggas was doing construction. Niggas was out there barby cuing. You know, I'm a hunt nigger.

You have no no, no. We realized the police came. Listen. The police said, you put up the fucking weir will come up there. And we said all right. He said, but you ain't gonna put out the barbecue. We're coming back because we got you. We got you to the police. Is like that, you know that things is supposed to be doing that ship man Madison Avenue. And when I realized I had cut so much the scalds, so much

respect for you. Something here and I'm talking about and I'm talking about this is nine years, this is almost ten years. I had this ship and the rent just kept going up and they wouldn't let me buy the property. So I just so it was crazy studio that ship. But this is the list is the reason why I bring that up. That day you came and I see the business man of Jim Jones like you was there and I just kept making you wait because I was

just like, you're coming on, let's let's let's smoke. And you're like what you want to throw this drop real quick? Like yeah, I'm like, YO, want you on the record, like you want me or the Yes. That day I kept here the whole day just to see and your business. That's when I seen them. I've seen the businessman, you know, I had everybody. I made you drink every bottle to anybody, was like, let's drink that. I think you started with

a body the first person you call. Yeah, you came and I was like, I made you chill with me the whole day. That's all today I said, I think you're trying to get me back. That was the was on fight and really cool, right exactly right, No, but you was the guy on the street for the scissor, and then the scissor blew, and I knew your business frame. I knew it was a different person that not just it birth was the business came from siss her or you already knew. Now, I just already knew. I already knew.

I already knew any any of those opportunities that we were trying to get already was trying to capitalize that we didn't have no management ship. But I used to see anybody capitalize, and I'm like, Manna, everything we get snatched. You like we That was the one thing that we never had, was like proper management or representation, representation or o G above us that tell us what the proper thing to do. By time we got to Rock and Fellow, he was already full blown crazy. You you didn't like that,

niggas and niggas don't know. It's like, okay, cam we started the deal lost. The deal was in limbo for like a year and a half. That year and a half was a treacherous year and a half. Like that, I've seen Cambus a lot of moves, Like I respect him for what he did to keep the food on the table, so one time he got back to getting the deal. Our mentality was hustles and mentality you did like you like we both were together, but we was in separate ways of support what we had to do.

Like I was in the Bronx hustle and the kid was brustling moves like and God built the character to what made different mess and ship like that, you know what I mean? Like it just but what like I said, man hip hop as a motherfucking man. Without the ship, we wouldn't be here, my nigger. Lord knows where will we be, my nigger, because I know we both was in a lot of devils ship at a at a young age. That's that's the scary ships like to be

here today. You dig chilling what you were smoking on you like everybody ran the world know where we all, like you cauldn't dream of this ship like we wanted to be hustlers and drug dealers because they was the most famous sniggers in the dopes. We knew it. Ship like that album about been blue past all the biggest hustles they talked about them had more calls and them, you know Drewry And I'm like you understand what I'm saying, like, just so you know, the other day, I'm sorry to

cut you up, really sorry to cut you up. For the other day we worked on another idea that I wanted to do. All uh, and like we are kind of like the alcohol so like all the is that like we went from really happening to so cractice making millions what all the hustlers wanted, Like they sold cracked not because they had to, because that was the way

they can make a million dollars. Member of million dollars a niggas white back in the day and no dirty million hunt ninety two million and know that type of ship. Nigga's like you're a million a million the end on bill. Maybe that's what the hustlers wanted. The niggas you did, like we ben reached out good. So that idea that we're talking about and all you gotta relax, I know, I gotta still say this. I know people have seen

the wire. I know people seen Empire. See this ain't seen the y'all y'all, y'all, y'all, y'a small y'a already between the loves. Because it's just like Nigga, we were like we come from the error where it was it was just one ft in the one ft we really never really blessed to be here. Yeah, we were superstars that were still stuck in the realm of being in the street with because we loved and a little too. We have for our niggas was the most important thing

to us. It ain't like how it goes now, like nigger, that error was a special man fuckingcause we don't have to be here, Nigga, that niggers going to jail. Niggers you like, so any time you need to look at yourself, like I always sit in and when I'll be like, all right, what's the next move? This ship ain't going

the way I want to. And you walked through the airport and somebody go crazy, or I'll go back to the hood just to smoke a couple of bluets to get in the round, right, And niggas looked like they've seen Jesus or some ship like you'd be like, Nigga, you did like you did some ship that niggas couldn't confatom. But we're so regular and what we do, yeah, we don't think of it like that. You gotta finish that. Yeah, yeah, it was hap happed. We got to finish that. Whoa, whoa.

You know this is you could do it. That's what I said. When you're drinking the way, a couple of it up, couple because the Gucci man his girl is dead. He might just go there and just be like we're coupling it up. Do you know that. I don't. I've never met Gucci man in my life. No, I've never met Gucci man. I'm just coverling up. What's up? Couples read us a lot of I know, a lot of rabbits. He wanted to. You know, I think he's really fun.

He's a special type. He was that specialification because I'm a dyslex expect he's just like he needs it. He did like like like so when I see him there the way he came home and operating and get into that bag and become more of a businessman, that's just the dope should have like to see because of just a reflection of hustling. Yeah, we didn't do the whole time y'all drinking that's roots water. Yeah yeah, look at

the f and I ain't gon fun. You ball stuff to that got you got the big shots every time. Every time every time I said, I hope he too way for him? What are you over thinking about the because you won't say too much? You don't say too much. Today he said to day your friends. Man, I'm gonna let y'all talk. Man, hull up, what happened? Right? You ain't got creamy st I'm sorry. I'm sorry that that is crazy. That is sunny dating. Because look, we're not

gonna pop that big boy. No no no no no no no no no no no, We're gonna say that's like we do it drill big, that's what Okay, SO should have brought some patients. Boss. So is a taking happy sections don't even know about anything that goes on in the night. Is your realize that right? I know? But you know what they concerned. But that's what the show is doing. You know what? That good many thousands.

But you know that's the good thing that we do about this show, right is we we salute to our legends, right like I don't want to get in to anybody. I don't get to hit people, and we gossip. We just sit there, we have fun. We shoot all legends. And there's so many fans who come up to me and they'd be like, you know, I didn't know who this person was when they come on this show. And it's crazy because I wanted to snuff them, like you

didn't know who boo? Can you know? For real? I said, it's gonna be mad time, But I take it to the hotel. A young nigger came to me and said, and I don't check it to a real hotel. This know, yo? You put me on the boot can't clip, and I'm just like, it was like, whoa hold on? You want on my bags? What the fund? This nigga just say like I didn't like, you didn't know He's like, but then he was like he was like twenty four and you can't get that at that. And then he looked

and he said, look, I downloaded everything. And I looked and it was like as much as I hated him for not knowing, I loved him for going and pursuing that. And then I just kept talking to him, you know. And then I was like and he said, but look, I didn't know none of these diggers. And he put everybody that was on drink Champs and he showed me their albums and I was like, oh ship, that was ill like and It's like it's not his fault. He wasn't born. It's like it's like alive. I love, I love.

But I'll tell you Floyd Mayweather's the best box of all times to me because I got to witness all his fights as a person who saw I didn't see all the ALI fights. So when I look at it and it's in black and white, y'all, I'm gonna be honest, my TV is HD y'allah. But what I'm saying, I'm just saying it's not the same to me because I wasn't there. I didn't live in that area. It's like I'm living before and I'm just saying that I go to the same Gucci store that Floyd go to, some

ship that I don't even look at that section. I gotta relax. That's not what I need. But to give me carry y'all. Cain Cardia to who get paid Cardia Cardia? You didn't take Cardia later. I'm following them on Instagram, prest I don't even know they had carthy on in with. You know who they got Carbriard Apollo Express. You got to relax, stop playing now, Apolo, she no better that offer me some Cabby yards. You guys got here, hello, list get your rush. You ain't car. He was in Russia.

He says she had play the Cathy almost nigger. That shing not me. You gotta fu nig yall, that's what I don't take some car, y'all, car, you don't have me save me, nick, I got you, nigger Cavy, y'all got you like y'all fish your jelly thing. I'm giving y'all, I know I don't. All right, let's just tras this bottom. Tell you finish, yeah, ship, Well did we speak to Chinese fe Jim Jones? Listen, let me tell you something. Well, you we catch de bottles for show. But you here,

we're drinking this, and listen. You know it's quarter began culture. If if it pops, you have to drink it. That's right there. Don't maybe call some waste fact facts way too many porter vegans here. It's okay, right, head, we gotta finish. Okay, I got a blunt feature. Let's talk that from the beginning. Okay, you half hapened before for some reason, I know you're gonna leave. In my light, I just feel like like God, I already know we're look like I want to stand look at that, look

look says, look says, look at my ship, look at that? Okay, sorry, my white blood friends, what's your favorite place to vacation? Sque they feel this baby that's not joined the warming up. She didn't even say Greece. That's how you know she's rich, said grief. She said, we're just that's some red strip right there, begon on though, Santorini. It was the Shi Greece. Okay, Santorini is like then a couple of people like, yes, she'd be putting on a wild ship for west, that's

all well, every more attacking along whatever. Yeah, that's exactly. Yeah. I've been to Paris thirteen thousand times, just just like I'm here from the bag. And then my wife came read the Paris. I was like, we're gonna go get up a get absolutely love. And I was like, what what kind of weed is that? And then my wife showed me cold shooking on like I was out there like I didn't appreciate Paris, I didn't appreciate Europe. I didn't appreciate that culture. Are are all that ship and

more white? He made me be a taurist. Yeah. Actually like I sent it. I thought he said he was a taurist. So tauris he had a blond moment. No, no, okay, so you had so you're not a canceled now, So how about I used to go to the towns and just you there, just you know, just perform. You didn't really appreciate it. No, Like we've been everywhere. We went to Georgia, Russia, the English and they'll kill you. I wouldn't have been everywhere. You don't see Russia. You think

about that ship. I think it's been everywhere. Ain't seen nowhere? Nigger? What has happened? We pull up to the hotwn go to the club, right, be sad? You know you don't see nothing. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's what my wife fixed my life. Like like, I ain't gonna everything. I've been everywhere around the world. Then when I'm white and she was like, what you're gonna, I was like, I'm gonna cars. It's nothing I'm talking about. I said, I fok with my African nigga. E t n he cool, he got

guns and ship. She's like what She's like, begin, we gotta stop gotta stop knowing that niggas a gun this is CZ he's my friend, he's no friends, this is what I'm saying. And he got rops, but he has guns. But we have to know these people. Why we gotta start, gotta starting people in the soul. Yeah, we don't neither. I don't want the guns everywhere. I'm going out of that. You hear my new record. I want to go to

the other painter I've been. Actually it wasn't crazy A crazy story with Stack Buggers, get crazy or your most memorable moment, because I remember I was watching Dad Life with y'all. Y'all told y'all in the room, well, these two of your us, their favorite rappers and twins twin come over here. You asked the next question, special man,

this is start Works wors special individual. He's like to this to this day, like like besides and in my favorite rapper Stacks has always been like so you got Cam, you got j and then you got you got like Stacks and then you got Pop and you know what I mean, Like he in there with with them, like he was just always special to ship. But he just was one of the most funniest things that I knew.

Like I remember we are was in Miami, I think it was like the same time we did that ship and it was these two twin girls that Stacks said, um, just trying to get and he fell asleep on him ship and literally like he was going back to the room, both the twins and ship like that, he fell asleep and we told his ass so crazy that next day, like, jeezus, you fell asleep on twins. Jesus, it's that it's st October now too. But he was just he's he's a one like out of so many stories in this world.

Like he's been he's been cheated, you know what I mean. Like he's just like like I said, like you know what I mean, Like just he was a great one now man, like I never I haven't met so many people were sealing to the Stacks and ship like that, Peter Stacks man with a lot of queens things, yo, Jim Man like for like, the thing is when you listen to music and you have a memory in your life, that's that that ship, that's when it met something to you. So I was in Loving oh six and then a

product of my environment came out. My nigked and I used to be in school, my uncles, my cousin ain'tbody listening to it and that ship picture and I was like, one thing, Magas ain't working, son, he's just hustling. Jim Jones made me realize my family's cople ship like real, like yo, like everything you said in the music, my uncle moving back and just like beavers to like you know, all the moves flying. It was just that she was

dope muscle. And then some of Miami came out writing into beating my cousin and he's listening with your tree songs just had just came out. So I said, you know that ship, my hair stands up in there, and then my other questions, and then when Gost rich Porter came out, I was just like, damn, I felt like you locked yourself and moved my nigger and like you just want to I feel like you hold your heart out to that because like I feel like that ship was like me. So I was like, you know, go

strosch Port. I was like, what more part of your career? Like you know what was in your mind when you questions? Understand what I'm saying that apposed to take? So Ghost the rich Portos probably one of my favorite bodies of work I've done besides all my way to church and home, that's my favorite did was a different time. So I've you don't even know me. I've always rubbed shoulders with a bunch of hustles and a bunch of drub the

people that you wouldn't want to play aize. But these is some of the most compelling, compelling people that I've been around this ship like that, your boy, you go, I don't have this. I don't have the sacond whole story. Listen, listen, everybody, I'm gonna tell you why. I want to tell you why. I'm gonna tell you why you're gonna pop this gonna first off, throw me backwards. I didn't get the chance to celebrate my birthday and Miami and I never got a chance to bust this with a guess he's got

what he got. Listen with any guests. We always read that big ones out, but we never bust it right. No, because fifty ain't drink, he only drank effort. So if we know we bust that after the fifty episode, afterlutely correct, you're absolutely correct. After fifty left, we say, because I couldn't believe I could get fifty. So then I'll say, you'll put the big ones on ice and then we popped that. You're right, look at my wife's one. I remember seeing fifty on his first album when he was

signing so many actually questions, YE got you? I really I feel like I was the rich Sporter. No no, I was saying that goes to rich Porter is one of my favorite bots more because at that time of life and I was ruther shoulders of hustlers and drugs ran killing type of people and ship like I say, like that web shoulders me and I was the next man. No no, no, but reflection and reflection of things that

I was going through at that time. But this, these people that I was connected to, is a story that all the rappers and I'm tolf you know what I mean, glamorize, don't want to be like and ship like that and never and they never get the proper just do with father,

let us from the street and ship like that. And every time I put an adum out or put a body workout is pretty much in the mind frame or what I've just been throughing ship like that, I don't mean, just pretty much been a reflection of life from since I've been doing it and ship like that, you know

what I mean. Like you get a hit, you get a hit, But the music pretty much tells the story or where I'm at, And I always talk about what I've seen think that's going on as far as politic politics, far as ship that goes on in the hood, like

ship that people don't want to talk about. Man, So when I see people like you that tell me how you're feeling, ship like that, it always give me that rish sure I'm feeling, to make sure I'll go back in the booth and telling a proper story and ship like that, because it's where music is two types of raps. This niggas that's talented, I do a rap, and this niggas as reporting story and it needs to be whole,

needs to be told. All I mean the ship like that, you know what I mean, Like I never was the most talented ship but that's we're doing music for so long, I've become kind of dope with my flowing ship like that, you know what I mean. But I still tell a story the same way and ship like the only day. But that's always been my kind of niches, telling that story that everybody else kind of doesn't tell like we always know about to give money, side calls the bitches

and ship like that. But where I'm from, I've been bailing niggas out, paying for funerals. Were niggas to come home like it ain't really been on the blockery story. Like all the niggas that are funk with or not in my position, they still live in real life and gotta do. I'm not saying me not really living real life. But they didn't missed up what they gotta do to what they gotta do to live and support their family. And she's like that. A lot of that comes with

consequences and ship like that. So I always try to reflect them my music. You know, I may not go platinum all the time, but because people like you that, Yeah you came. Patient nigga came and slapped my back one day, Yo Kim Jones and said, well, yo, yo, you gotta back Yo. Somebody nix it when they get yo, Yeah, nix it. At the sand Bar, I'm like, yo, I saw him there one time and then that revolt. I saw him to him the one time before my accident, Christie,

I want to throw this up. I wanted to Christie. She was at the bar. I don't never remember you're at the bar. I don't want to throw up the spot. And I was like, Yo, told Jim Jones I wanted to go to drink and I was like, fights out, He's gonna kill me because I know I have to do that, you know. But I was just like, yo, you know what I'm saying. Yeah me, I've seen me one day. He's like, yo, Jo, So I'm still hit me in my back. I met Jim Jones, I said, damn,

I got just make a phone over you better. I still be surprised nigs to be like see me even kind of get like, yeah, yeah, I lose at you like fifth Fan because he's just looking at me and like what then look at that? Yes, that was fan. I know they don't fous like because let me forgetting favorite. I just forget that's what it is from the Core. I ain't know a bit hip hop fan. I'm from the Core, know what I'm saying. And then you'd beat time to don't Chrissie still Geller like like all of

the figures and the lads from the Core family. I know, I know, I know what I'm saying. I got to that. Yeah, like you know, oh that's Chrissy man. Yeah thinking never yeah, like what like what a day? I don't go through that as somebody calling, oh that's Chrissy man. Like imagine when Jay go through they were like what you bees? Are you dona be? Here's my analogy with car Here's my analogy called just said yeah West called the power production.

I always tell people's like the difference between football and basketball. You never know who the football plays is as they always have their helmet. We know who all the basketball players all. When you're on television, you know who everybody is. When you do music, you only hear WoT you or you gotta find a whodio when you go to the inn and the ship like that, Chris, he's been on television a quote all the time I've been in this game,

and she's just as famous as I am. You didn't So when you talk about production, that's the power of production of nig Jim Jones, let me know you from being Christie husband Like what Gus and what I'm saying? Like that's real? Get that production? Rich is a screaming right now Chris in the street like Yo, what TWI I'm like, what's up? That's just come up for like a second. But people people a little bit authenticity. Man, it's being authentic man, when you're yourself, don't I feel

like everything just you put your heart to everything. She just played out. I feel like you gotta smoke a blood. This is this is happening. Don't smoke. I can't. What was your Yeah, you were twitching on me because it listen. First of all, because I'm gonna tell me, must to tell you something. I want the Jim Jones and Chrissie podcast. I want that because I don't want to go really be good. You don't don't like so I want the

crizzy clock. Yes, Christy Cloe, if I'm he did something that ship sometime, do you agree that we need to do a drink like for the girls lady drink ship ladies. It's a lazy ladies, lady sadies. I said that to him. A couple of men drink drunk. It need drunk manicular pedicular, Yeah, pedicular manicular. Just girls drink drink. You're gotta be flapped. We're gonna be floped because we flat that we're gonna

send that. Man, I can go a pedicule. You conn be sitting in you could be relaxing with flax only y'all, y'all, conversation shaker, somebody keeping keep the ice. I see, that's all we need and we just conversation is gonna be a bit. I tried. I say, I'm taking kid reduction. That's it. I don't want to. I don't care to do with this ship. Yeah, I'm on the production, so there's it. Food. We gotta have food services, ladies. Right, let's go with But this is the real ship and

hip hop. We gotta keep continuing to support. When you see people out there, you know, having relationships, happy, being happy and just you know, being themselves, that that is exactly what hip hop shooking teams to support. Okay, my bad, all right, it's one thing. That's one thing that me and Jimmy lasses because we tell them because we're friends. That's right. First, Ye, that's right. Like I'm his homeboy. Like I'm alive, nigked, I'm not your guys matching yacht masses.

Let stole that off. I stole it off. I actually bought that for him. Yes, I'm not gonna lie s like big boy Jim Joe's. I don't think we ever popped up, big boy, I don't know. Listen, let's pick up the the people at more Wet Keith. You gotta go. Pigeon's gonna keep just right, you know, I mean, you know, I don't know who you is, but I like you too. Sen A couple of things to listen. This is the midget they sent for my forty at birthday. Celebrated half

of my forty at birthday in Miami. That's the only place I wanted to be. I could have been in Vegas. I could have the private claim dumb ship like you remember right now. No, but I didn't. I wanted to do with all the Miami the private planet. Yeah, that's gonna do. That's what I gonna do, y'all, and then hold on to make sure the niggas get me clean. I was going to do that, right man. And then

we said, yo, let's just keep it in Miami. The cup trying to give you some assistance, but like you were saying, you want to say, everybody stand in Miami. And then the hurricane Hurricane Kane, and they fucked my whole ship up because you only turned forty once. So you know what, and my white my wife planned it all out. She wanted to be special. You know what, you know what happens on birthdays? That ship don't never

go the way you want play. Be honest. This might be like how Mr Leak popish last time twa yawn. I can't predict this one. This this is a long and I don't do it. Watch who watch you? I don't know all the day your own day. He's gonna be nice, nice fool Listen the gun from points as years, a proper champaign, bubble queen. You see a lot of people. I know it's not I'm just saying, just all they did on those play every cool y'all didn't know what y'all did. Y'all ain't come to ours, and we're gonna

y'all listen, he's not the shampain. He's talking a little way. There was like you ain't you had a pop White Star Way Star was whack. You know you definitely had that. Yeah, we had a few race we had Fritz why a lot. We had a few guys with them. Didn't even have this job. You can't make my father in the store. We had several of those. How much I lost that one? Just changing subject come on, we're gonna drink this hot bottle and we want to go were to go. I'll

never give everybody some of this stuff right here. They don't have dress the way I usually do it. Are you guys done? Ie talking like we done all? They're still filming the stuff, but we could talk. Didn't want to be great, good baby. This is the best interview. This is so much your interfare. I'm like, nothing, you're gonna I'm coming back when you want me to a nothing? Want you look at this? Keep another one? No, I'm just keeping. That's how we're supposed to walk in with

Happy birthday. I got, I got if you want to. I'm not buying it from No. What aout sneaking man. So much for just sneaking. But this is how I think it's supposed to drink. You know what I'm saying, Like, I'm gonna be honest. We all the new alphos, we already know that. Not that in a negative way. I mean popularity, new popularity. Yeah, yeah, I have to say alcohol. I totally forgot. I understand. I mean the new crams exactly, the niggas that stood tall, the niggas that you know. Yeah,

this is us. So we got to salute to that when we when we do, your parister, if he don't get that new cup, that's new bottle, I need a new cut. You gotta cut. This's like buying looted thirteen. That ship right here. You listen heavy, listen, you ship put it. I'm gonna put this old paying hell right, you give some new pain. It's all paming right, No, nigga, you got that's at the bottles. Yeah, that's what I said the phone. I don't know why by coming up

like that. You gotta chips that got biggest, got to relax. They just want to guess. Man, baby, I'm so mad happy niggas not come on, you know I can't drink that with men. You need some ice though, yo. But listen sometimes right, sometimes you just got that. I just gotta think about all right, Yes, you gotta like listen, day we got a little about to go. It's about to go on. You mean, I like hot champagne. After cover it turns into Henessey, But I don't drink at all.

Some people die night. You know what I need? Look at that dog like, look you just put that just then you're about to be bad all right, you're about to be bad. Alright, alright, all over already you're you're a fan being man alright. No, he celebrates his birthday and towel right now. I think I've been a tower for a moment. Her birthdays, he's going to that's how I can do my parties. Birthday July. I do birthday parties in August. The poet birthday. Definitely didn't ask my wife. Okay,

I gotta relax. It's my birthday, so you know one once. One strange thing is when I walked in you you recognize eight and nine immediately the spot the closing story. Yeah, it's my spot right here. Having did be having the jenes I need in all of this? Eight enough and not get busy. You still got a good fly. I'm putting my little splash. You gotta find the proper, proper stores. I got what I need. Got to be seen a certain way. You're I can't be running outside of Jenny,

Jimmy July Jenny. He's getting You're going into that. Get into that. Yeah, because what's the actress to eight and nine shop happening right now? Case for a vote a weekend in case y'all hand for b Team Weekend. I'm winning with meet you don't got dance? Come, I'm you need to be a Google n Yeah, listen, listen, all right, listen, Let's take a back sis. Yes, let's take a boat right my nigga Jim Jones and my sist right here. This is all fantastic, famous engineer Hazard. It sounds but

recently breaking recently recently it's always sketching. His name has been changed. Okay. It can be either cocaine has okay, all the Google or so I want to know, I like to google. He's very, he's being very. It's like the rider. Google is hard. It's like this because she women are smarter than men, or the bad watch this? So which one of you bigger? You know what? I'm on the fence right now. Okay, why are you on the fence Because because my mentality has stopped my money

for a long time. So something tells me that I can't be so hood and so honest and so straight all the time. So sometimes you gotta vote with it. So let's google this Shipcaine. Let's just you know what I want to do. Cocaine, cocaine, No dog, that's always a home it's either cocaine ass or a Google. You know what I want is the wad cocaine. What you're gonna go, I'm strying to conform at this point in my life. Something you should go with Cocaine best, that's

the best name. But you can't do you can't take it anywhere with you Cocaine. You can take the Google with you anywhere you gottle person your man Cocaine. Do you want to take a which you take cocaine? Cocaine? Yeah? I know, I'm just kidding the Google, Google everywhere, Google, because you call your problem cangle everywhere. Get your beaches straight. Cocaine. He's Colombian. That's why they get it. I want to tell them the story why you don't Yeah, yeah, you

see something I don't want to you know what? To teasing God? Yeah, I'm not talking him works. I just feel like I had somebody named Cocaine. I want to buys Beach. I'm just throwing it out there. Beats right there, yourself beast too, don't something Beach? Just docare think about the bigger pitture I get I think it was the bigger bitture. You got beat to the change cocaine hands. I'm suing one cocaine hands. Listen, let me tell you something.

I can't google. I kid you not, like I was a little high at the time, and these niggers, how about cocaine. Cocaine a little but listen, I was a little hard at the time. And then we gave me like five different niggas that I was supposed to work with, and it was like they stood out Neptunes. No, it was left Tunes. They gave me five different people that I never knew. When I looked at it, it was everybody's like Robbie rob or yea yellow Raymond, yellow ship

like that. And then said in that tunes and I said, nap Tunes. I said, I don't even know about Jupiter. There's something further than that. Absolutely, And I knew there was a part of the galaxy somewhere. I knew that Neptunes apart galaxy something. And then them niggas came and I said, yo, y'all, I said, I got you. I killed that. And then that's what I'm saying. Cocaine has a meter, Like I want to do business for going, I don't know trying to, but the Google is cool. Too.

I was like, all right, cold I got right from funny ship. Uh huh. The first time he met for real me and came in the summertime, he had a first cold on up to the mic sor sorry we can't hear we get the first time the first the first time we met for real it was at a session that I guess the labels set up at quad.

It was in the summertime, and for real had a black make corn made me the best short sleeves, the short place you would take baseball shirt for me to light met no short on him, definitely, he was definitely was no show shirt. And now he was going years ago correct, so that he didn't got hope. It was so ship. I would miss hoofs like please leave down some ship with the guns in it. And then we backed out MC guns and then he was like he went in the bathroom and then we need to see

for real war. Never would never do that. S big him up right, shout out to Parell man. That was that was That was our Pharel story. But he shouldn't used to guns because he used to funk with you. No, that's not tricky. I didn't I tried to. I tried to not bring guns around them on purpose. You gotta he was water. No, you gotta know, you gotta. It was my being loved for kid. I'm just we're the I'm just telling you about first and what was happening. I got a lot of intian ductries. Yeah, y'all, I'm

I'm sorry, but I love your relationship. It's like it's like, y'all, Nigga's like, that's that's how I mean. You know, you know what I mean? You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, y'all at home? Because yeah, like like if I say something Coney like, she'll be like, nig you're not doing that here. Like if I said, like, you know what I mean, and that's the same ship. It's in a different level, but it's the same ship. I love your relationship, man, I really, I really do. And I love you, Jim Jones,

I love you, Chris Ye. I love y'allum. I want to continue to support y'all whatever you gotta do, whatever when y'all want to do. You're looking bad right then, right why you've been drinking smoking? I gotta disagree with other than it's coming. Yeah, I feel like holding back right here mans, marijuana. How do you do? Don't you don't like to come about auto about so I'm not coming in to adults. I merely came here to do as of you. We're a friend of mine. I know it.

I feel like I'm doing real like like yeah, you learn see no lines, you'll see no cars. Bring it down. I let him right down. I got to tell you this. I take one scary it's feeling like fund's important. The only thing we're missing the scanty coat. I promise you I could cut me water. I don't know what your childhood has done. You hain't No, this is terrible. Okay, hands my son to see this. Let me let me break it down for you. Let me break it down

for you. Everybody, everybody, everybody, you can't drink. Give me a moment, everybody, every everybody, one moment. Let me tell you exactly what you at. Let me tell you exactly what you did. You're back in the days. They gave sauce mix. They gave you four mics. They gave you five mics, ok and gave me Okay, listen, just listen right now, where you at right now. I can't believe that we upgraded this generation. We upgraded this for some reason.

The sixteens to fours are the people that's coming here and represented for Drink Champs and making us. There's no podcast that ever made us a television This right here is on Vote TV. I don't know if people got revolted people care about Revolt, but I'm telling you that's a black owned televion televised station and we fucking behind it.

We got some rock. And the thing about it is the only other podcast that ever made it to television that I know about is the Ricky Gervais Show, which is on HBO, and then it's the His and Hers podcast. We made it to ESPN, so as a music podcast. This is the only other podcast that made it to fucking television. And the thing about that is I made what my fucking good friend of person I look up to. His name is Leo Cones, and he said to me, he looked at me and said, you know what your

thing just winning? I said, He said, no, Leo. He said, because you celebrate his spop and you don't do gossip. And I said, listening good to be to walk on his face, Yes, he is who he will motherfuck you the second Yeah, I wasn't in the work. I'm saying his work, his ethic is crazy. Like he did the things he had tell you to make you get on your job is really taught him. My nigga like like like I know, I've been in the in the building with these type of niggas. These niggas is the endless

niggas ever. Did know some people that taught me to be savage mind stake, business biggest, the biggest savage stay And it's never wrong with being a savage and business nothing. It's not wrong with it. He's gotta understand it. I remember one day, I'm working up because I'm making it about me and I don't want to make it about me. On one day, I've seen Chris Lidy do a deal with Michael Ovid's right, and the deal was just some savage,

some brutal ship. And then that day I went to the Bronx to see one of the homies and I nigger got shot for seven dollars in a dice game. Meanwhile this thing, this thing for seventy million. And then and that was the day I was just like like you would think, like you you want to stop being under the hood because of your own hood, like I'm gonna just saying I'm in the Bronx, And I was like, damn, I said, I just had to meet and with Michael

Owns and Chris Ldy. They wanted to come to me like you'll want to want you to promote our company, and I'm a fucking young idiot, so I'm like, yeah, man, but really I don't have nothing that I don't know what the funk ain't talking about ship. I came into me, Man, what do you want to do? Yeah, definitely, And then I can't even say talk to him because that is

the person that I talked to. It's Chris Ldy. Yeah, just just know what you gotta do, Chris, and I don't need I had no idea what Michael Ogate's as. That's the guy who's sold Mickey Mouse. That's this exact when I think about ship when I'm be hearing back in the game, but the game is to be sold. And I told I didn't know what that ship meant.

I don't know what they saying. I used to say it all the time, and I don't know what that ship meant to Like right now, you heard, like right now when they can't imagine you wouldn't knew what you knew mail at deal. I definitely did. Yes, I answer it like two times, maybe three, I'm not sure, something like that. Yeah. But then I gotta think of the young I got it together, and I was like, oh, I knew how to start moving with y'all. And that's the reason why I like drink. Champs kind of works

because goes. I just stayed cool with everybody. I never can plain. I never camplain when I was down, and I ain't bragged when I was up. So I just stayed the same. So now all these people that I took care of this, I said, you come to smoke up blunt with me. These niggers is now Sean Facts, these niggas is now Sam Chrescos, these nigers is now Mike Kaisers. These niggers let me keep going again. They now Julie green Walls, They now Randy Akers. They now

want the fucking uh huh you got, ladies. I just learned that from just just my father. I'm gonna be honest. My father one day just told me, say, yo, treat the janitor the same way you treat the president. This is my father. And then here the old school parter. We get with a towel, you gotta chap. My father had to but a real towel, real ChIL He played handball, play handball serious, my pa, and he got air ranged and got a picture of naked woman on his body.

It's it's not it's not snacking my mother. Naked woman is letting my mother. But it's just it's just how I was raised. I'm just throwing off a hunting percent and I'm nice and himdball to just but yeah, the only thing you would beat me and him your man, boy, Jim, Jim, I'm trying to meet you in something very soon. Need no, no, listen, can't they jumped me in the niggas, the niggas about

this leg I can't do that because I can't. I can't claim that way because I can't claim that because he's gonna be like, yo, you see I want y'all it's on taking everything. I can't really, I can't really take that way. I'm a person. While I'm gonna let him get I'm gonna leaver get good. And I'm I'm glad that I could do this. Man. You know, I was the whole reserves about this ship for a long time. Let's just be honest. You thought I was gonna bring up some type of nigger. Let me just take a

lot of net. But that's all I mean, Like, you know what the negative like, the negative shot the positive. That's that's where it goes. And then this goes back to what I was askingly, like, yo, where you learned that ship from? So when Paul my leg what me and him got to it, we didn't have that tunelst we know it was me and came in my five nation partner. We went on one week don't ship. But listen, the funny thing about this game. I tell people about

this all the time. When you've hot, you could kick a nigger in the ask literally even oh I like you kick me again? You did, but they do whatever else you need you need, so that sisle go damn the nigga that kick you in the ass. Turning to them people that you were just talking about, you heard and they'd be like, oh, Ki, you understand. This is why you got to treat the general the same way be treating And this's and that's just the reason why let me just let me just interrupt you for one second,

gym Jones. Let me tell you something, my brother, we love you over here Drink Champs. We want you to know that you're loved. We want you to know that this generation, whether there'd be now old in between, across the back from the left shoulder, everybody they know what you did. And if they don't know what you did, that's what we're gonna emphasize right here on this episode of Drink Champs to make sure that these people know and they appreciate that everything you contributed to hip hop

has not been unrecognized. I think about Jackson Moti everythink, don't you ever think that anything you ever did? That's why you know? Um, I haven't. I don't know if we could rewind the interview. I haven't really brung up like you know you on Can's relationship because at the end of the day, I just want Dad to be fixed. I don't give a funk which way it happens. You know what I'm saying. And you're my brother. I know exactly who you is. I know exactly who that nigga is.

And let me tell you something. I love both of y'all equally, and at the end of the day, it's probably only two crews that I could ever really be like I've seen them from they developed it. That's motherfucking terror squad and that's motherfucking dips that like I knew y'all even before y'all was diplomats. So whichever way we can fix it or y'all fix it, and I don't even want to emphasize on that because today is about you. I wanted to be focused on you and your lady.

But whatever way you can fix it, and even if it can't be fixed for people to move in the same generation as a positive way, I'm with that too, because I would have never ever think that I can sit here and ask you just when you you and camp you know what I'm saying, Like I would have never because I've seen y'all from the beginning. Y'all are like I'm like, this is like the cameras, this is me and you're talking for real like y'all was brother y'all,

y'all are brothers. Not let me say that y'all are brothers. So I want you to fix it and you don't gotta answer this. You don't ever say what I don't even never think it's as difficult as people see it, and ship like that, you know what I mean, sitting down always thinking about life, Like I talked to Christie about ship all the time, and ship like that, and I try to analyze this this as I can, and

ship like that. Like we was younger, we were stick as thieves and we was running like they was doing whatever. We're clear to get a dollar and better ourselves. But a kingdom is never ran about two men. M hm. You understand what I'm saying. You what I'm saying. You're digging and not saying that everybody can't have their own kingdom. But that's where it grows into. And ship like that.

You wouldn't think at Steves until you get the money, and then we all full a line and fall of love and you go into something deeper and ship like They're not meaning that you can't have alliances. But when you have two brothers that know each other like they know each other, that is your strength and your weakness all in one. Like you become so accustomed to each other.

It's a relationship that's damn it, like a marriage or when you separate that there's a lot of animosity and there's a lot of pride there's a lot of things going on with that, and that's both sides. It's not just one side of the ship like that. That's my digging for life, no matter what goes on, Like we struggled together, we ate Chicken Sandward just for dollars. Together, We took jets and only ate. We ate the most

expensive at dinners. And we thought Felipe Childs was everything, Like you couldn't tell us ship that you did, Like I could not credit Kim for everything that I'm doing, like it started with him and not saying that I wasn't dead, but it started with his talent to get us to where we had to go today. And I never discredit him for that in my life because I wouldn't be here you did. But along with that, I was smart enough to know how talented he was. And if I hold him down and turn out I had

my own time to shine that you did. And that's how it was. Rose caming along and he got his own kid, Kim came along, he got his own kids, Jones came along, We got her own kingdom. And it just hurts me to know that we're not smart enough to know that if we go the lines between the three kingdoms and everybody loves us for we can have all the riches in the world ship like that. So you know that that always functioned me. But at the most part, I know that my Niggas is doing good.

We didn't did everything in the world that people could possibly think of. When I see these young niggas right now and they'd be like, all on the belly, I'm doing a new protect. We did that ten times over and then then we used to bottom just to match the outfit literally online when Jacobs was out and Niggas was it was getting the red and white Jacobs to You want you understand what I'm saying. So what's what type of life, what type of life we came from,

and the type of life we live. And that's what I said. I always cut my blessings and I think about Nigga always. I really came from the projects at Hall like I grew up in the wrongs. I lived that life that I really came from the project of haul them to end up all the way around the world with Niggas. I grew up in Niggas our daughter. Every moment that I was with him, it was nothing that I wouldn't do for them. You understand what I'm saying.

It's not like now like you couldn't be nowhere in front of one of my niggas even if I didn't agree with them that you're not gonna do that to me you didn't like you, You still don't get reprimanded to me the same way I repremanded if they was, wouldn't My differences with them is a personal differences is not for anybody to understand. But we brothers and ship like that the same like you should you go with? Component is real ship that niggas have been through, like

and this is twenty years of it. They signed, but this is this is twenty years of it. Like I spoke to him a couple of days ago, hit me like, yeah, what's up late? But it don't stop like you dig it and and it's not like you see a nigga call you, and it's not like you hate it. Nigg until you're not gonna pick up the phone, like you're

gonna pick up the phone like what happened? You heard, you didn't and then you l happened when when you under saying something, it's like it's much deeper than people think. But it's twenty years nigga. I know Campsus. I was literally thirteen years of age when he was the nicest niggeting basketball battle on Monday, Cousin Dave and on on the east side and ship like that, like I've known him forever. You know's I'm saying. We all get grown at some point and ship like that. When you get grown,

you go through differences. You can't all be going agree on one thing. I wish it was different than ship like that. But one thing I learned from him was a lot of business. That was one of the ellst niggas. I could know that because business and even my time right now when I do business, I always thinking about what he might do because he's so efficious with the paperwork. He never did nothing that I knew that didn't come

with paperwork. And that was all the only thing that I learned from him, Like the most important thing I learned from that I struggled with now because I a hood nigga that I fun with so many hood niggas like nigga, got your niggor, we're doing this, that's what you said, that's what we're going, that's what we're doing. But that don't work all the time, and he was the master at that. That's why I want to be and sue everybody in the game because the paperwork was right.

Digging nigg is that all He's sucking all that, But that's when the game is about. When the white people do it, it's justified, right, But we're doing business. We're not selling cracking room more. We're in the gaming. There's certain things that I always learned from and I always thinking about, like that Nigga is ill for that ship,

but shouldn't we hit now? Whether the tip not continue to seeing other album and all that we made history SuperH history doctor, the history of what we did to be allowed to be a hip hop the same way you made history. Like there was a time in this game wejury is almost next trying to present next to

each other. It's neck and neck as that kid from nothing nigger we knew each other, some teenagers nigging that we we two decades later shep like that we got kids think I'm sorry this episode like anybody's like we but we really came up from the same from the same path, Like there's a whole different cloth, man, that's a whole different story. But you know the dipomas I love the dipomas man I was. That was something that

I worked hard and daily on my nigga. Like we when Kends said I'm gonna get you up out of five bays, you did it and we we we did everything we dreamed of my nigga. So I can never be mad. I could dream of nigga like we hear we in Miami. We get to go then we get the pop bottles a ladies get to get what they want, like nigga, you didn't gonna have roaches in the house when you've picked their lights on them and ship like that? Did you got to think about that? I really know

nobody asked him whatever I want. I got the name that you know what made that for and Burn because it was all three diplomat diplomats came from Master p. He had the record I'm gonna know living so limit and uh this what makes your side? And we was me and Camp was doing hype man from Mace. Mace had us doing dance moves and she likes you know,

we had to practice. I'd be a one speaking kid you love and speaking we'd be like yo, scoop out like yo, I don't know do but like I said, if I couldn't even venture in the level and in the level mechanics suits and she like that came on one stage. I'm on another stage, but he's about to come out. We're dancing, and she like that, come up by no no, no no no. But I'm gonna keep listening. But this one, I'm all right, So cards my nigga, listen to me. Mom, gonna tell you something. Ship came

as my nigga. This is why I always respected him when it came to the game. We did that like two times. He said, get your bags, nigga, fuck these niggas. We out hard, God bless hard this ship like that. But at this point he's like, for all these dings, they're trying to play us people dancers. Nigga danced me out this ship and that was like we were came and may start breaking. It was like it was from there. She's like, we out the ship. Fuck them niggas name

we out. We're gonna blow. Nigga, don't worry about nothing. And that's when we came back showing notuffing blue and ship like that. Like but like I was saying, so he was going in the fucking Jesus past studs were making these big arenas. And that was when the ship me. Cam has some ship called the Legacy. That's what we're trying to be, all the Legacy. But Cam was like, yo, I loved it up. The Hall of Legacy is already taken as a trademark, so I just think, so we're

open to building. I'm like, I'm a holl of moil diplo. Man, you need to get you get hold on what. And then all the niggas starts saying and like you can, We're gonna be a hule world Diplomats Like, oh, that's fine, you're digging. The digging made the logo thig It was the producer, my man, six figure digger. When we did the Diplomats, he made he made it little this when camera broke, this is it's silk screening within only biga

T shirts. Can't They brought the sigg said we're gonna take the ship off the dollar off the dollar back of the dollar bill of the Eagle, and we're gonna put diplomats steward and ship like that. And Diggle was the man who made the create the diplomat ship digging ship, dig a ship, shoot somebody for his creativity. I don't know if he got paid for any of that, but Digger definitely made the diplomata. What's a lot, that's a lot more. But man, I appreciate this. We didn't drink well,

I don't even drink like that. Somebody got tonight. Yeah, nobody got to get ye doesn't have normal. We all half way up. We all half way. He's gonna get the punish. Okay, that's it's walk, but a completely we have here. When you live in Miami for morning double digits, you gotta run like okay, he'll put it like this,

you get out of here. Put my bholo before we get out of here, before we get out of here, right, I just need to get my take on your opinion because I'll be home hot and thinking about you, like right now is faking like what's your opinion? Or niggas in football? Nil? And then I was on the news. I'll be talking about it right now. Very too much political for drink champs. But no, no, no, I'm gonna tell you money. I'm gonna tell you my angle, but you can tell me you that was just my Yeah,

I'm good at that. But what y'all saying that you shouldn't think about it every time. We gotta get deeper because we will talk. I'm saying y'all got every time x x x x X player nils. They think it's about him, the speck on the flag. No, it's about everybody that ain't anything nothing to do with all the anthem just specking the flag and have them. Yeah, everything the injustice and the people under innocent black people getting shot gunned down, that's what the about. We helped build

exactly the problem. So that's what I think about the them. That's how you feel about it. About ship? You want, I'm saying you want to hear what I gotta say about it. I'm gonna definitely tell you right, So for one you did. It's crazy how everything everybody does ship for popularity. Right, what he kneeled by herself, nobody helped him down. Right, we're not a cool thing to do with Black Lives matter and so forth and so forth. So now your football players want to act like they're

in tune with whatever's going on. Cool. I don't hear when nobody showed up school, we all got to hustle and we all got a ball school, we all trying to get our money her, but every really making a conscious effort at doing the protest. Right when we knail? Cool, Right, we all nail. That's what we did to the flag. Now is that a protest that's worth something? Because all them Nike is still played and got paid and gave nothing to the cause. Cool. I'm gonna get out of here,

and you're you're ready to knew that you heard. Everybody took a nail, but they got but they still plug and they still got paid. And the proson and the person who set this off don't didn't get it done. But one more thing, when I was telling somebody yesterday, if one of these NFL owners take a stab at taking that young man in and embracing what he do because he is a good football player, ain't gonna make all the money in the world. If football is about money,

that's all I'm saying that this. Yea, I do a photo, but that's you know what it is about, drink Champs. You've got the big personality, which is my husband that you got you youever, You've got two people that are like, it's not gonna work. You gotta get somebody who's low

key like you, and there's nothing wrong with that. You gotta get Nor, who's you know always you know, when I got something to say, I'm gonna say it on drink chap guaranteed, guaranteed, I got no problem talking about And the good thing is that we got the artists point of view and then we got you the DJ Street team point of view. You've got two point of views, and that's the good thing. And I told Nor that was that you guys have a good balance. You guys

got a good partnership. So nothing wrong, nothing wrong, But could you end it on a good note? Thank you. We're black. We're celebrating love that test needed in hip hop, like like to the example to everybody out here. And ship representing friendship, You and Nori longevity and that's what we represent right here. Makes some noise, motherfucker, Jack Jones, you're in the bathroom. I love, I love y'all for that. He loves being out my mom. You heard, I need medicine,

you need water. Don't give him your record here, Mike. I don't. I don't think they don't. I don't think they're trying to set me up. He said, somebody got to pay for it. Who gotta pay for it? Oh no, not me, he pointed at you. All Right, we gotta do a drop