Episode 104 w/ Busy Bee & Capone

it's drink Chats, motherfucker happy. I will make some fun right now he is in the building. We have a pioneer. We also have a component here. I want a big a components the other guest host that we have tonight, I wanted him to be the guest host, but now we're switching it up so that component is gonna be the guest Holsers. Right now, we have a hip hop pioneer, legendary. We would think of goldfathers, and there's certain goldfathers, but he's not a golfather. He is a fall up hip

hop and this is busy motherfucker. Also who we have in the building. I want to be clear. We have a person who has four and a half micx, who has platinum and gold albums. He's part of the best group ever. His partner is the best man. We got compone and we love both, y'all. Yeah, y'all listening that? Oh yeah, I like, I don't want them to share the like, can they can get another one? You got it? You got? I want you to talk whatever? Yeah, y'all. So you're not a legend like Busy Be tonight betting

for people like Busy Be. What's happening. Let's take it from the beginning of the hip hop All right, let's do that because you're want the Bronx. Correct, Yeah, we're I'm from the boogie down Bronx where the only ship really started from. You know what I'm saying. Bull Street, Boston Road, Prospect Avenue to the Avenue Union Avenue, you know, stuff like that with the Grand Master Flash was doing this thing Melly Mail did or She Dealer was a

little kid at this time, you know what I'm saying. So, yeah, I think Grand Wizard did or what he was a little kid at this time when Grand Master Flash and Mean Jene was rocking and they had only three m c s at this time. They had Mellie Mayle, Kick Creole and Keith Cowboys. So it was just a handful of m c s. It wasn't an old bunch of m cs, you know what I'm saying. It wasn't old solo. It was a lot of DJ. Dcs were for the

DJs at then. It was it was it was it was more classier, that more fashionable to be a DJ because promoting the DJ right because today there's no more m C You know, the m C has came with the DJ. You know, I'm m C that and this DJ bloom. You know, the DJ came with the MC. Today you just got the m C or you got the rapper. Now put the CD in, make the music and here going. He eliminated the DJ so you don't have to pay him, you know what I'm saying. And I'm on my own. But see so the MC's is dead.

You know, you have the m c s and the DJs, and you got rappers. So you know, I go with hip hop, I tweet and the rapper or the m C came with the DJ. You know what I'm saying, I'm m c blocks and this is DJ because the DJ wasn't talking on him, so he needed someone to rep him, right, And I'll give you a few MCS that's you know that's still wrecked today. You've got LLL cool J with the Creator, you got DJ Polo and uh coolg rap You know you got me with did

or you got um um. Let me see all the MCS with with DJ you you got being rock him, you know right, So so you know you have that right now you have the new MCS and the new generation coming out. They just got music and they're just rapper us. Well, what happened to the DJ, right that made the music? Ain't nobody business? That's DJ. That's my partner, right. He hates rapp up goes on there. Thanks everybody, right, all the guys that we're not even we're not saying

look at us, we do the backbone, that's right. But and I agree. So you know at the very day, you know, we need our DJ to help the rapper, and the rapper need the DJ to do his thing too, because you got to promote that this DJ helped me make this beat to make y'all right, you know it's the crazy I'm so sorry everybody. I got two of my partners here, see an ye DJ, you have to

describe the situation earlier. Today, I see busy Bee busy Be seat me and said he looked at me because we both champagne people, right bottle, Yeah, crack, be careful with us. Very hot this today? You talk about today today? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, listen, don't have to add the auto wrap that auto wrap, Iced tea big up Mickey Bixon? Right Ali, who else we got a big up once? That didn't We did it?

We did it Iced Tea Iced team. And I seen busy Be walking to the crowd and you had that V booklicko and you got and you filled me up. That's what I'm doing. I gotta fill you up right now, my whole bottom take that problem. But I how to do this ship? So we all right, all right about listen, Mike Booth, Mike Boom is a champagne nigger. We all Jake baking champagne nigger, champage niggs. We got the call. He killed that, okay, So busy me, let me ask

you a question right right right now. These brothers, the new generation, it's out and they don't want to do their history. They don't want to know who you are. I don't want to know who I don't want to create. They don't want to know who is. How you feel about that, well, I don't feel about it, but I tell you what they do. All they're doing, they just it's just a green thing. It's just about a greed thing. And everybody is happy that they being recognized at this

period of time in our culture. So at the end of the day, like you said, I might be the father, but then you're an icon, and then they got to respect that because of who you are and when you do what you do, you still do what you do. And then they and at the end of the day, they fans, They actually fans of what you do because some of them is made up. We was born to do this. Our fans created what we do to give

us the energy to do what we do. So those people, some of the new generation, it's actually being made you know, because you look like a Noriego, I'm gonna make you do that. You just say these couple of rhymes and then that's what it is. But then the real m c s stand out. I've been doing what I've been doing three long not too long. So I go back nineteen seventy seven, before records before to yell, it's more busy be We're gonna do it two no I was born.

You know, all I do is just reinvent myself every two or three years. You know what I'm saying, to keep it rolling until we're right now today, I'll still roll with the snoop dogs to wish Khalifa was you. You understand what I'm saying. Smoking good and drinking champagne. That's what I did. Let me just tell you something about dude. Two o'clock in the morning I landed. After that, you already know what I'm gonna two o'clock in the morning.

I landed answer that. The only thing I didn't do was think about how I'm going to smoke the weed. So I brought all the weed in the world. I went to every every week. I had all of it. Busy Beak. I'm descending there and I said, holy ship, busy something, noise something that how you're doing? I said, I got all the weed in the world. He goes, you ain't got hit to smoke of that? Right? Yeah? Why did I'm not thinking that? He goes, follow me

and we an incident we walked through. I'm following, busy Bee. And not only did he show me when against the guards, I also got Marlborough Greens for people who smoke. If you're smoking, New Boys, Marlborough Green's and Europe is the same exact ship as Boys. And this nigger grabbed me. I felt like in my mind he smacked me in the back of my head and say, just follow me. But that's that's experience. Here's the deal. Here's the deal, busy Bee, right, what it is is that experience. I

was proud to follow you. I was proud to ask you for help. I was proud. Do you think this new generation isn't proudly because I am supposed to be the busy beast to of the Asad Rockets, to the little boozy verts. Do you think that that that they would do the same thing that I did with you, because I know they don't. I know they won't because I mean, they still think that they came into this game.

And that's why you know, I put together my own you know, like you know, I followed the Melly Males and stuff like that in the hip hop and I say, and I always wear black and I always will because I dress up for their fender rules and now heads will roll when rappers will die. And whoever won the battle, I would give him a trial because I know I'm fresher. I was born to never but be lesser more than the record in the show to me, I came here

to said the world free from around the ways. Back in the days, I got beat so you can get paid. I made this a job YouTube bit slobs, and now you the world learned. Still all robs. You got a little bit of fame and wealth. Now you think you did that all by yourself. I am you, but you ain't me because started rapping to two thousand three. I just tried to stay together. You know. I let them know. You know I've been doing this for a little while.

Respect the culture, just like when you're smoking weed now, you know, because for a new generation of smoking weed, you have people that sixty seventy years old been smoking we call it pot marijuana before y'all start calling it loud and all that. Respect those people that smoked that weed, because they was doing this before you even got to the legalizations came into this planet. And this is the reason why I'm sorry to cut you off. This is the reason why I love when we're doing today, because

it was a brother that walked in here. And now, earlier today, I was doing a show and a brother walked in here and said, so, when you're gonna have more pioneers on your show? And I said, do you watch my show? And he said yeah, And I said, it's Caress, not a pioneer. And I started naming names, and he assisted that you know, you don't what you're right, Nolor, but at the same time you're wrong because I want

the people that came before wants the herbs. He wants the herb wants the busy will be considered the icons, you know. But I appreciate it, like I appreciated what he said. I appreciate because he wasn't hating. He was just like, yo, look, GLORI like you guys basically because we don't interview with anybody on the third. If you're on the thirty, you gotta I'm a double nickel. I ain't afraid of my show. I look good. It's a

double nickel, that's and you're looking good out here. What I'm saying, goddamn again, I see busy be not only in Amsterdam, but we've seen them in l A in l A and he and Roscoe's and you're still looking good, still smoking with many I drink grapes and I smoke good. Got that, sir, rock You know how many stuffing hard drugs. I never did in my in my culture, so I always did to find the grapes, you know, because I always stood around the people that said this is the

rich stuff. I wanted the rich stuff that's that's exclusive balls. Right yeah, yeah, this is in case you want to some flash it right here, right now. You're doing some flysh it right now, right now, now, right you as a person that was there in the eighties, you as a person that was dead from the inception from the I don't even know what that word was, in the beginning of the very beginning, right, it's like that. So I got you you as being there from the beginning

right when you listen to the music. Now, are you just appointed or do you understand? Well, I'm not too much of disappointed because some of the guys I do understand that I do have some of the New generation. I mean, if you call like ludicrous new generation to where he's coming from, you know to I listened to some of those. If you're making sense to the Kendrick Lamars, you know, I can understand that he's when you're just doing that what they call in Atlanta, that that that

crump all. I don't even know. You know, it's just good music. Music speak for itself. So if you're putting something behind it, then then you got an exclusive. You wind up having a class if you take music the day I used to. I'm sorry, I don't know if I'm letting you down right, no, no, no no, But for years that the end of the day, it's about

the DJ and the producer. The music is right, then it speaks for itself because the DJ knows and then the DJ helps the producer to tell the people, hey, this is what they But now the consumer became the DJ. But we can change what. We can change that because we're speaking on it now. You know, the DJ is demand period period in hip hop. But I feel like DJ became castrated. But I'm saying in hip hop, please talk in hip hop, don't. The DJ is still the god that should be now a rap rap he killed

that he did he now wrap is a different scenario. So, like you say, when you're driving, you stay in your lane. You're in hip hop, stay in your lane because you're the god. As long as you got an m C that will follow your rules, you still to god and rap. It's a different scenario because you've got so many industries now that this is a billion dollar industry. Hip hop took over planet Earth. If you're not doing nothing in

hip hop, you're not even making no money. You either a fast food worker, a janitor, Wendy, or doing something that illegal because hip hop took over the planet. If you're not working in the industry of hip hop taking care of a person like me or Noriega or an MC that's worth that money, you ain't getting a dime. And I'm sorry to say that. But the hip hoppers and the hip hop ats, how y'all saying we killed it? You know what I'm saying. So that's what it is

to hold your hip hop man. That's all I can say. It's peace, love, unity and having fun. And we took over the planet. There's no place on planet Earth that there's not a B boy, a break SI based on graffiti artists something we don't took over. So busy for me, let me ask you, like, as a person that I would have to call you a pioneer even more than Caress because we have cararasts on here, we have Big Daddy came on here, but the can is coming out soon.

But was there ever a moment in this music industry where you was disappointed when you were just like, no, because okay, I never hate it. I'm not a hater. No, I ain't say if you disappointed about something in hipop, then okay, yeah you could be a hater. You might not call it that, but then a guy like me, somebody that they're call it that because you guys are older. Somebody look at at the end of this day. I'm not that I look at some people get lucky breaks.

Like I said, again, you don't even have to be a rapper. You could just look like one if somebody can put that money in you and make you say two or three rounds that you've ben't been in. And it happened. It happened with Grand Master Cash in Big

Bang Hank. Let me stop you right there. Um. Jermaine the pri got on our show and said he looked at Criss Cross and he wrote he said, he wrote every lyric old criss Cross Hole for problem just because he looked at the alright, but hold up, but Rappers the Light one of the biggest the records that at the end of the day, even Rappers the Light, it only lasts six months. If you ain't real, I'm good, okay.

If it ain't real, it ain't gonna last. You understand what I'm saying now, you can be made up Milly for Lily. If you' that record is skip, y'all be

fucked up to day. You don't think you understand what I'm my feelings when I was like, I'll be a perfect example of the realness because I go back that far and it's two thousand seventeen, right, I'm still standing still to speak only and I probably think this is the best question, and you're probably the best person to answer this because real hip hop living Europe more than

living they would they respect. He's gonna says at out love so much, man, I mean, dressed by myself, I can go pack the house at eighteen hundred by myself to where I didn't know that until I got there and thought I looked in the crowd, I would like the Blues Brothers and Ship and saw all the people and said said, yeah, who who else on the card? He said you nobody? I said, what? Just me? They said yeah. I said, oh ship. So you know you can't get that right here in the US. Right now.

You know, I'll get y'all my homies, friends, they girls, and then we got a pack house. You know what I'm saying. But as far as the people that paid that money and came to see and appreciate that respect, they're not going to come into America. But in Europe they spending euros. They got four months saying when he was and now couple on to me ask you the same question. I apologize, um, because you know this we got we got busy beat. But I want to ask

you the same question. Does hip hop actually exist more in Europe than in America? I would have to probably agree. But do you what do you mean fans or the culture, coach, because it might be a different No, I think is a culture you no? No No, no, you corrected with you how you applied that, because when you said fans on the culture. But let me take the fans await, let me just just just deal with the culture. Do you remember we went we was in Germany and the promoter.

We just we couldn't see him for thirty minutes because he went and put up with CNN the bait, and then went and did good Feed you. He did a whole piece piece big we win, and we're worried about our money. We're not. We're not. We're understanding when the brand is that there like it's coming, and he wanted to show us. So he went out there and did a whole piece. All right, I thought, I'm Puerto Rican. A thrope is when you just a piece, is when

you letters box letters. Right, he did a piece for piece that's me and me and this nigger is like, that's why he like, right, you can never get that right. You never get that in America. You don't. You don't. You don't you get fans that are drawing you and and spend time on doing something for you and to come to give it to you, to show you what they do. In America. I mean, guys come to the show, they're looking for the girl to go home with. They

heard you, and they're gone. You know what I'm saying. In the beginning, it wasn't like that the commercialize and the and the industry took over That's what I say. Now to to this day, you can push your button down. We could be millionaire. It's no more discrimination in hip hop. You could be green, black, purple, whatever, and then say I'm a millionaire. Because you could press a button. You can go on the internet. You can just be on TV YouTube right now and DJ and make ten thousand dollars.

So I'm saying, the hip hop culture took over. We are the world right now. Yah, it took over so much. And sometimes you don't even know, right because it's just like and they're talking hip hop lingle right, So that's all I'm saying. It's over. We took over the planet. I remember thirty years ago, you had to wear that suit tip for CNN and you couldn't talk like that. They would talk with us down like these people here

is doing that. Oprah Winfrey is a perfect example. She was she was fat with the AFRO and then Baltimore. They talked about her. She's a billionaire, you know, and at one time she didn't like hip hop. Donald Trump didn't like hip hop at one time. Yeah he's now he old little Kim, He know us, he knows who we are. And now all of a sudden. He don't know nobody. Now you understand what I'm saying. So, I mean,

you know our culture is strong man. So when you being from the beginning, right, did you ever think that we would lose control the way we lost control? Now, let me explain what I mean, because what I mean is, um, when we were doing hip hop, when Marv Deeper doing hip hop, NOAs doing hip hop, it was untraditional. It wasn't just the way hip hop and all that, right, But now we us, we're supposed to be who you guys were or who you guys is still to this day.

And we can't control these these new guys. But but you are controlling because we look where we're at right now and some of them new guys can't do this. We're on the podcast millions right now. You know what I'm saying. So I mean, we're still winning. It's no, it's no more losing. We already won and we win it. So now I do it like this. We want to

go to the playoffs to get to the championship. Right now, You're always going to be in the playoffs, Norway, because you already won the championship a couple of years ago. When you when you was at your people, so you got your propers. Brother. You know, don't keep rolling. You're gonna get money for the rest of your life. To us. As long as you keep telling the people what you're doing, and you can show that you can still do what you do, they're gonna come see you. And this is

the reason why I funk with you. Because you don't know why I funked with you, It's because after you have ten years in this game, it's either you're gonna get up or you're gonna be better, right, Because the thing about it is we them ten years. You can never ever judge those ten years of loyalty. But what I I mean by that is if you work for Makingdonald's and you there for ten years, you can take up your MacDonald's hat and nobody will ever bother you when

after you leave. But you can do ten years in hip hop and you do ten yars in hip hop, you can never take your mask, especially if you was if good in hip hop when you came out. When you came out and the people expect that you then then those people growed up just like you rolled up, and they're gonna tell late people your ship. My man, Noughty was this ship back then. In some cases they grow up with you. So there it is. So don't never think that you lost nothing, Norvy. And you know

what I'm saying. You're still the champion of your coachure. You're still the champion your people keep still that flash. You know what I'm saying and what you're doing. So you know, you don't know. You ain't composed, you know what I'm saying. So I meant everybody and the whole team, right, so everybody is happy, you know what I'm saying. So you ain't never lost me. No, no, no, I'm thinking all week when I think about it, I think I

think of that. I think that a young generation because the thing about it is right, I was fortunate enough to come into era where you we had to respect y'all. Right, we had to look up to y'all. Now this error is it's like fatherless. No, it was like I gotta look at the person who came out two months before them, but they didn't, you know, look at that saying that's my hero. And those guys came out to months. How is he the two months came out yesterday? You First off,

I like that record it. But at the end of the day, then you're just going to get the run. I've seen the video. I did not as long as they're going to get it, and then it's a rap. Such a person like you, such a person as I twenty years from late career, they're going to talk about the same as they're gonna keep talking about me. You know what I'm saying. And that's the difference. But do you ever try to like reach out to like a person from the younger? Yeah? Yeah, like who let's give

us what's my man? Um? No, no kill? But in here from the South he did type of weight make is that? I like that ship? I funk and I never met him personally, and he's very humble, right, but he saw me, his boy said, a busy b I left the mess because I mean me, if I like your ship, I'm gonna find one of the guys in your crew that do know me and tell them, Yo, tell them, Hey, okay, tell tell about Let's describe that

a little more than death. So you've seen him at the BT hip hop a war, okay, because I do all the hip hop shi and you smoke every right, So I go there and then I look for the guys like such a squamie and find all the guys that I hear on the radio that's that's right for me, and go and give them their props to let them know, hey, you on the right track. Keep doing what you're doing.

I love that ship. And if you haven't heard from the Icons or the Pioneers, and one of them mentor you got my motherfucking blessing and then they say, my nigga, busy bee, that's what's up. Man. I appreciate that, and that's it, and that's all I asked for. Man. Respect. Now, at the end of the day, when I came up again, I didn't make a lot of money millions and thousands of dollars, but I got two point three billion in

respect and I'll take that all day. What yo, Let me tell you something about you, because I just miss But I've seen you everywhere every time, me and Capone, and you always smile, You always was happy. You never you never was better. Why is that the case? Because they always say never let them see you sweat, Now see you cry, keep a smile on your face, keep it feeling good, and something to always have happened good. You know what? I'm saying so, and here I am

right now. I was at all rap chilling and you said your bits. You know, man, I'm want you up, my show man. So I'm right here. You pull up because you know why. You know why my father's cutting you off. But you know why we owe your generations. They owe us. But instead of me telling them to owe us, I want to show a perfect example. I don't want to show love to my forefathers. I want to show love like, not just your forefathers, it's hip hop's forefathers. Thank you. If it's all of us, is

it's drink champs or none of the things? None should we do if y'all wouldn't pave the way for all of us. So we want to show love to the people that came before us, the big Daddy Kings, the rock camps, the busy beings, the chuck chillouts, Uh who else we've seen to that We've seen so many people, brucey Bean, we Uh. We want to show love to y'all because the thing is, we don't ever mut y'all

to feel un welcome. Why do it to myself when I see y'all, brothers, Even if I don't know, y'all, I run up to you, hey, because I'll be a fly motherfucker sometimes sometimes my giant ship right now. You know you always got some and you always got liquor. So I run up on the brothers let them know. So they might have seen the Beach DVD or they might have seen something. Say oh yeah, that's busy. You know what I'm saying, And then I'll let them know, hey, though love is love, man, I'm not no no hay

to ship. Be. I congratulate, I appreciate what you're doing. I'm here, come and have a drink with me, smoke something. And then they said, yo, be that ship was dope, busy. He came here, he smoked champagne. You smoke that good ship with us. And it's because some of them they're gonna smoke good, but they don't. They be smoking like a motherfucker man, but they don't smoke good. Man, I

smoke good. What I'm saying, I want you to break down the difference from rap and hip hop, okay, because earlier we alluded to it, right and you said it, but I would like you to detail it. Okay, whoever speaking back there, I love y'all. But can you coming lick. Okay, Well, the difference now because okay, rapping now everybody's just rapping about what they got, who they fucking, how much money they got and and and what kind of car they're driving.

When we started, we was telling yall stories about just make believe stories, fairy tale that sounded good to the beat and made you rock to it, such as the Jimmy Spicers to Slick Rick, the Rulers, the heavy Ds, you know what I'm saying. People like that would tell you all stories to the funky beat, and such as myself, I keep you smilling and rocking to the funky beat.

You know what I'm saying. To right now, they're just talking about what they got, who they getting ready to have sex with, how many babies they got, and then at the end of the day they're going to jail, You're going to child support. You know what I'm saying. They're making a TV just like that, you know what I'm saying. So you know, hip hop then was fun with the peace, love, unity and having fun. To now rap is just about how much money a person is getting.

At the end of the day, all you gotta do is make a mistakes and then the lawyer you're gonna take it away. Producers are gonna take it away, you know, so you're gonna lose, you know what I'm saying. So me myself again, I just like having fun. I make my money, I take care of my family and enjoyed myself. Man. That's it, man, That's what it's all about. That's what we came in here when we started was peace, love,

unity and having fun. If you're not doing that and then you're not doing it, man, that's not hip hop. Do you think you think industry divided the culture? Yeah, well the industry Like again, the industry could be anywhere and again like right amongst us and say, hey, you look like busy bee. Man, I want to do something. You think you can talk to me? Yeah, And that person is gonna say yeah, because that's an opportunity for that.

You know what I'm saying. I can be ready to feed my family for ten minutes because soon they catch on that I ain't really busy be and I can't really do that ship busy to be doing because you don't know what to be doing because at the end of the day, you don't even know busy be you know what I'm saying, So, you know, commercialize that money as a motherfucker. But at the end of the day, I appreciate it all because at the end of the day,

they're feeding black folks. They're feeding families of the black folks, and some of the white folks is getting some of the money. You got, eminem you got you got to frost you, I mean, you got white mcs. They're making money, but it's feeding us, it's helping us. One kind of said at the US. I think I'm pretty sure he said wrapping something you do right, So you know, we Parkers, I'm just David Parkers. That's Chris Parker. He didn't Kenny. So we like the Jackson's, we just split up on

that side. I'm on this shote, you know what I'm saying first, So let me just say we're in sting Rays right now. What's the advent Stingrays to the best host? He got on Spurs on his show, here got on Cowboy. I love this this guy, and listen, you gotta come out here. You gotta get the whole experience and do it. So, now, what's your favorite ever hip hop busy bee? Um, the early nineties. You think you would say that. I'm gonna be honest, I had this question in my mind as

soon as I knew he was coming here. So she's gonna say eighties. No, man, come on, man, I can't keep it no really than what it is. Man, I'm not going front. They said the Early Night, So what groups to mark that? The EP M D s, you know, like try yeah ship That ship was fun. Man. You know what I'm saying to Easy and the n W They changed the whole ship because before before that you said, before that, I've always said, well guess what. I'm sorry,

Well guess what was it? And when they said NAS album and it was and you said, oh, you're not telling n W A because for me relaxed, he said exactly the same. He didn't finish. They changed it, might change, you said, you said it, but I'll tell you how they change it because I see from the East Coast. We were scared they're not gonna use that worst sime. But we were scared to say, hey, bitch, get the

off the record. We wouldn't say that on the record. Easy, You know what I'm saying, Hey, bitch sucking my dick, Come onto the pot and people weren't crazy for that ship. That changed you easy. I want to you too, and I changed everything now now now East Coast wrapping now oh yeah we're okay, bitch, yeah, and now we started that that changed everything. So so I apologize because these people hate me when I cut people off. I needed

a cigarette. That's something yourself off right now. But you know, in your opinion, gangster rap was invented where on the West explaining that brother, because Iced Tea was from the Iced Tea was first. What's one nigga from the Bronx name just Tim Dog, Just Tim Dog, Tim Dog do it before Tim him Dog went to l A back then. Hey, y'all talking to the icon, I was tea in New York, in New York back in the day. Okay, oh, everybody, everybody be quiet, please so busy busy listen to your

pioneer Busy be your icon. Right. We've been debating this on the podcast for so long, okay, And you're saying that the gangster when it comes to gangster rat one hundred percent, the first top you witnessed gangster rat came from the West Coast, came from the West and they came to ice Tea with six in the morning, so

he was on this show We Love Iced Tea. One of the favorite story bro came with ice Tea was because he was from the West, but he recorded a ship over here on the east because that's where the vibe was. That okay, okay, so I'm sorry, So can you tell us what we were recording at that time on the East coast because we were still recording party flavors. Um, we was talking on reality because you had to drive

called quest. You had every you had rock Kim, Rock Kim was talking to the guards pieces of what I'm saying and then so so now we was cool right there. So now you had the guards had a little something to talk about. Then you had the regular people that have something to talk about. And then when you mixed the daylight, souls in it and uh holes in their lawns, right you know. So so now we have a whole rainbow of culture. You have everybody now so far in

this movement. It'll be now now on the West coast, you had iced Tea, that was it. Then give it about four years because this is like eighty three. Then you got eighty nine. Easy too short, you know, my bad, bad brother. But describe the first gangster rap rap you heard in w A so nice was six in the morning. So it wasn't it wasn't actually against the song. It was just a real story because we knew about Larry

Davis in New York from SCHOOLI dans right. We knew about when when I said six in the morning, police at my door right away. Everybody in New York knew about Larry Davis because that's when it happened. So we we threw that in. It was something about Larry Davis. Yeah, yeah, I never knew that, Okay, So you know that little story right there went for Larry Day who made him famous and known and made Iced T famous. No and nice. He had the kind of voice now and hip hop.

The difference between the rappers. When somebody asked me that the difference is voices in hip hop, you have strange voice. You have to the day your favorite rapper has a distinct voice. Facts, so every day everybody want to sound the same. You're only gonna last six months, get your money for asked, so let me ask you. They say someone that's reality rap or gangsters, when they really mel did the reality rap first? What came first reality rap

for gangster rap reality? And who was the first reality rapper because you said the first gangster rapper had to be Iced Tea. I would say Slick Rick because he had the story with Lotti Dotty. We want the party. We don't trouble, we don't, we don't bother. Nobody know, just that when we get up on the message. My line, the message to me, real wouldn't be real reality rap, but message wouldn't It wouldn't be reality rap for the elder cocaine cocaine nis doing cold back then. You know

what when agree with everybody could call that. You can say that, but Lotti Dotty would agree because it's for ever your body, you know. And then you had a London person rapping and you never had nobody talk like that, and you had a different it's the voice of pronunciations, that one, not one. I love to interview people like you, the people who came prior to it, because it doesn't sound like me, don't. They ain't gonna tell you the truth because they don't know. I'm not gonna tell you what.

They got to relax. You gott you know what. You gotta relax because we love you busy be and this is your format and this is this is where you gotta do. But this is a thing. This is the reason why I love the You're our first pioneer. Right we had Careress, he's like you know, damn there, yeah, but Caresses but he's a paroneer. But he's your little brother. But I one love pick to people like you, because back then, going to l A was a totally different experience,

right Like, they enjoyed you motherfucker's coming out there. They said, you know what New York motherfucker's. They embraced nobody shot nobody back then switched. I would love, I would love. What do you mean? Ship was going down, yeah, but but it was love but killed. You're talking about the music because we're talking just like he said before before that we can go to l A and were it

was still known for you, I get robbed whatever. But if a MC came from the East Coast and went to l A, you was like the guard that day. Or that we appreciated hip hop, they appreciate kind of like the European thing y'all talk about. The West Coast was appreciated hip right right now. Now, after that you know what, Pop and big started the feud because it wasn't none of that ship. It was just like you said, you we can go to l A and have a ball because it was a different mix. Now we bought

some East Coast girls. That's West Coast girls. Now you know, we all partying together. But then when Pocket Pop started that West Coast and East Coast and Biggie fed into it again, it sucked it all up because then when somebody died, it was like East Coast guys was like targets. If you go over there and you somebody and you're talking at gangster ship, they talking if you got out of there safety, okay, good, But you didn't have a

good time. And before then we had a good time in that Like you know what I'm saying, we had a good time was exactly the way when so Sore was. Now I love you, just just a little bit more details to describe how much La was loved because prior to us, we used to hear like New York was just they loved us, right, And I never got to experience that. I never got the serious somewhere, So you got the part where you was a target age, know

what I'm just saying. But I never I never got this apperience where he just described what he means is when I went to hoods, I went to was the birthplace. And Andy appreciated that, appreciated that I went to hoods and went to the neighborhoods you know where describe some people. I guess, like you said, I can't go now because it's not good. But back then, I went where people were selling the crack, at where the hoods was at. Brothers was on the corners and stuff like that. You

know what I'm saying. I was in hoods where they had the cars that jump up and down and stuff like that. I hung around with two dogs, the pit bulls and ships like that. But they shooting dice and I was doing all that. You know what I'm saying. It was good. It was love because they say my bills in town. So everybody put out the grills. It

was like a block party. It's like Monty Gros East Coast rapper with no really little respect, and you come in their persons hood ship whoever ran that hood were like, yo, we put out you're good for that. That day it was just love. But then after that, you know, even some of those guys, you know, they either went to jail or died or they don't run the hoods no more. You know what I'm saying, Things change, you know, so me, I rolled with it. Man, I try to reinvent myself again.

Do what I gotta do. You know who is who respect that? Because me, I'm not the one thing to go around trying to I'm a boss. I'm just a person. At the end of the day, the boss to say that person is all right with all of us, and then I'll get loved from everybody. You know what I'm saying, And that's that's That's me. That's all I ask for. You know what I'm saying, Some must busy be You got that you're busy be your Bronx legend, right, But let me just actually like why it's hip hop so

different from every five years? Why do we change hip hop? Well, hip hop don't change, it's just the industry change. You know, say, the industry took over some of us rappers and m c s, which like, I don't have a contract with a record company today because the record company can't tell me what my culture due. I'm telling you you can follow me and still pay me, But you can't tell me to get up at six in the morning, because my people not up at six and old goddamn morning.

My people up at five in the afternoon, party and the chilling. So you know, they don't know, they assume they know. And then for people who's not real or who's been made up, they gotta follow that because they don't know, so they think that what it is. And then they get and they getting paid, so they think that's what it really is till they tell a crew members, Hey,

this is what it is. This is how we get down to when you find out the real ship is too late, you're too far in, you don't talk the wrong stuff, you made people mad, and you didn't even give a fuck, you know what I'm saying. So then you got one hit wonders that don't last. You have a few guys I'll be seeing in the way spot buying juice. Right. So you people of the culture are running the industry, are running industry right, and they care

less about cultivating the culture. That's the bottom line. Because at the end of the day, the person that's giving you that big check, they're telling you, hey, listen, I'm giving you this money. Make sure you don't give you If you give that to your Tony, that's not going to be good. You know what I'm thinking. They know Tony gonna do the right ship with that money. You're just getting paid and you're happy. Tony gonna take that money and turn it over and do the right ship.

And we ain't gonna need us, you know what I'm saying. So don't funk with Tony. But go ahead and pay your family, make sure everybody good, make sure the kids is good. And you're happy with that at that moment because he right, I ain't had no money. I make your family right, have a few extra dollars too. That's the American dream to pay the bills and have a coup of extra dollars. But I mean, you know, it

is what it is. I don't hate. Once again, I congratulate. Yeah, but listen, we actually the best error to the nineties, the nineties, nineties, the early nineties as a pioneer, right, I wouldn't be a guy doing a good job if I didn't ask you this. We'll come on. What is the worst ever? Right now? You who you're going to say that, Let's make some noise for him? Saying that, why is it the worst ever? Because nobody, nobody following now no money, they're just following the money right now,

you know what I'm saying. They're not even thinking about what's really real. But you know, they said it sound good to put it out It's a melody. You look good. Put it out here. Even some pictures. Put them with one of them and you got a good melody right now? Is that it could be social media, but at the end of the day, it's still the person that got that money. So it is that? Is that? It? Is it? Nowadays? It's just like a melody in luck. Yeah, yeah, because

the real ship is underground. We're the ones that's looking for the real people underground. We're looking for that diamond in the row. And then it's not even the diamond because they're coming right at us. We just have to have time. And then you're still so busy, you see. That's how busy you still is. You can't even see the diamond in the rough at times. That's why they call him the diamond and the rough because they're hard to find, and when you're looking for one to three,

you're busy being man. Let me tell you something you're pioneering. I'm trying to roll up and roll up, hold on and let me just tell you something. Let me just tell you something. When we started hold On, everybody relaxed when we started this podcast. We started this and we wanted to do something for our pioneers, for our kings, for our legends. When you do something for me, I'm happy for it. You know we needed you, well, we didn't want you, We needed you. The spirit brought me

right here. Yeah, because you're a great person. This is how we always bumping each other always. We don't have to call each other nothing always whatever had your number, but I hear you for thirty Yeah. Right, you know what I say. You're a great guy. And why don't

people salute all legends the rock and Rolled. I really can't answer that one question because I'm still trying to figure that out myself, because you know, you know, I've been inducted to the Hall of Fame, so they say, but then it's not recognized as I am the Hip Hops first solo m C. You know that when I came in this game, it was no solo, it was three m c s. You had Grandmaster Flash with Mellie Male t. Creole and Keith Cowboy. Then you had if you want to use bandbody, he had Mr Biggs and

mc globe in power. There was no solo MC and for me to be that, I didn't have a friend to say, come on you, me and you Tom and Jerry, or me and you saw Skin and Hutch. You know what I'm saying, Let's do something together. So I didn't have that, but I liked it what they was doing on the microphone, so I know I can do that.

And then again I have that distinctive voice that people remember because I mean, you know, at the end of the day, they still remember that ball with the Ball Danger dangg get do the bang bang bo, get the ball with the Ball and the day, So that that went from seventy seven it's two thousand and seventeen. You understand what I'm saying, and right now good yeah. See. And this is where I got my props from when I made the record. The original record was called making

Cash Money on sugar Hill label. But then Kid Rock re and did the song and he used my Ball with the Ball and we sold eleven million copies. You gotta say that again, so I gotta say you gotta say it again. So I made kids trumps Trump's hold me. Ki made kids got a household word, make something. So I got that busy because kid Rock had two albums before on Warner Brothers. He had two albums. It's sold sixty units. You know, he made an a noise. But when he did the Devil without the Cause and then

my song Ball, what's the main song? I mean, it proves in the pointy certified. I gotta I gotta diamond out that out. I never went down. Just I'm diamond, the only thing I ever ever did. So kit Rock became a household word off of some black ghetto hip hop ship. Don that lets you know that even if he had to sample that, he has a doll about.

But he came to me. He came to me. I was in the l a doing the Wild Style, this movie called The Wild Style, and we was doing the reunion and Kid Rock was there and and me, I was on my starship and White Boy came up to me. You know, busy be you know, I want to use the ball with the ball, I want to put it on the record, and I'm on my starship. I'm paying it no mind. Yeah, go ahead, put you on. He said, no, be I need you to come. I want you to

sign so there don't be in no trouble. I said, my hat fucking If I make some money, then you fucking you. You came to me. I want some guddamn money. He said, hey, be okay, I'm gonna treat you right, man if And then all of a sudden, I heard the song. I was in the cab doing the ready I would get ready to a podcast ship. I never signed right. He did me right, I'm rich, shout right, shout off the kid rock because he definitely kept a hip hop He's the most import he kept his world

when he definitely kept his word. Because he's told his word. I said, yo, just go ahead and do this ship. Man, if we make some money, I called you, motherfucking you hit me off. He said, be okay, no doubt, no that work. Because I was in my starship. I was doing what hout style, you know, and I was on my show I'm smoking and drinking. He got the funk out of here. But the ship blew up and then

and then I was doing the podcast. I was going to eight eight point nine in New York with me day I saw he was going to do the same ship. And I was in the camp and the song was on the radio, and all of a sudden, I kept here, ball with the ball, but I'm singing along, right, Wait a minute, and then you know, so I called Mon and he said, be I told you the white boy kid Rob. I said, oh, ship yo, but I didn't know. I didn't know what. So you know, it's many copies.

So at that point of time, it was already a million copies with million point five and I was like, oh ship wow. And then ship time went on. When I got the plaque, it was three point five, so I'm like, oh ship. And then I finally gotta check. I gotta check for the first check to keep it on. My first check was seventy five thousand dollars. I never I never throw hip hop. I've never received a check

over ten thousand dollars. So when I saw that, I fell to pieces because I know I don't have a bunch of kids, and I know nobody gonna get learned this money but from me, my wife and you know what I'm saying, and my friends like that. Right. So I didn't have no kids. I had two daughters and I was, so I was cool with that, and I went on with that, and then after that time went on and they said, b well, it's still climbing and this is like two thousand two. I'm like, still climbing.

That's not damn what the fun? And then kid Rock was blowing up, you know if he was on TV every fucking where and every time, and I'm being mine, so my ship is real like today you so, so then when he did that, like after a while, I just forgot about the ship for a while because you know, it wasn't my ship. I've seen him on TV. I was happy. And then they hit me with seventy five million, I said, they said, I said, that's more than three platinum.

They said, be y'all on the almost a diamond And I didn't know where the diamond was, Well, diamonds millions. So the only person that was ten million was hammer Shaggy. Shaggy did what uh was that ship? Um? It wasn't me. It wasn't me, and that at that time, at that time, that was the only people that was dying. I'm like, wow, we're almost that. So that's cool. And out of that, I'm gonna see damn near half a million dollars. I said what, and I just went, you know, it's just

time went on. Then we let record. That's that's the point of the story. And that kid Rockings a real motherfucker. We can't say kid Rockers a real motherfucker. I'm just not saying not ba trying to run for seeing some crazy right now, That's what the thing is. He did represent. But at the same token, it was like Viz didn't know, he didn't know how far it was gonna go, right, but he did keep it real. And this is what I say about to Komo D. I go back to

Kumo D started. Yeah, because Kumo D started that bullshit. Yo bj B put the bob to the ball bullshit on hold. I put it on hold. I put it on hold, and then I bought it back out and I saw leven million. I hit Kumo D back with his ship because Coumo D, alright, look like me now right, okay, because you gave me the alley. Okay, you gave me the alley. How did you start with you? He was jealous because I was getting money. I was a flying motherfucker.

He was he he was with the Treacherous Three. He wanted to be a solo mc SO in order to do that. Wait, wait, because y'all was down together at first, he wanted to be sold from his group right because they had to split that money. Man they made five hundred dollars. Man three, motherfucker's man was back then. I was the highest paid couple the solo mc SO. If I made five hundred, I made five hundred dollars. You gotta remember, you got the Cold Crush, the Cold Crust

four they made five dars advantage. You have to funk you four plus one more before they made it. I'm saying. So I'm with these groups while they're getting checks and they see me get my check. They're going to White Castle. I'm going to be stay Charlie Steak. You know we have the Sizzlers And then it went on the Apple Bees and all that other ship. You know what I'm saying. But I would I was doing it like that all on one second, Busy Be, you're all love. You live

on the podcast Happy Birthday. You live on the podcast where you're at all off. That's where I love def jam. Oh that's my dog, That's why you're on house. Then I have no idea why you you gotta come uptown Sting Rays. We over here with Busy Beat Niggles, I said, I went here with Rob Love. You know what Busy Beat said. He said, robbed up from death Jam. You gotta come up here with your fake death jam card. Sting Rays come through. Happy birthday, Rob Love, you love you,

Robt Scorpio like Busy Beat on your way. Let's go alright one love Lil you know him and pop was the only thing is that they had the great ship right there, the great sho the great part to go. I feel like I went to so busy be hip hop has grown so much. You've seen that from this infant stage. Is there anything that you could say? You know what if I, if I could do it over again, I would help change this part of hip hop. Yeah. I would try to keep the the corporate people out

of our business. They jumped into our business and then they did that for their sake, for their agreed to save their companies, to save their jobs. Because the producer that found that guy saved his job because he was about to lose it because he wasn't creative enough to find out something commercialized to make us some money. So he found the fake rapper, or he found the real rapper and put him on TV and made him some money.

Now again, I'm not mad at that, but real is real and and that other stuff is what y'all want to call it, So separate that too. Here here is a real m c for hip hop celebrating Coca Cola or Sprite or or Sony, whatever the case. Maybe well here is uh God we found that look good? Blis bliss. Separate that. Let us know because hip hop is strong man, you come to us for everything. Y'all need our help.

We got the black people, we got the white people that are do anything we tell them to do on the record if we if they agree, But if y'all do it the wrong way, y'all use us at the end of the day to blame us for your fault. And that ain't our fault. Wrapp is something we do. Hip Hop is something we live. That's what it is. So if you could change anything and the ship, what would it be Again, the corporations tell them to come come see the real roots of what y'all are producing

on the street that's not real. You can help the real people because the real people need that help. With that same thing that you have, that same idea you have. There's a real guy that can do that, and if the real people see him do that, then they're believe in what you're saying. But you got a fake guy doing that, then don't you believe him? Because that fake guy was on TVMZ that wasn't on your commercial at this time and told us the real ship we don't

want him. Can I ask you a question? Yeah, do you think that without the corporate people coming in the way they came and you think that like rap musicians will make will be as will make as much money as then yeah, because the talent speaks for ourselves. Music speaks for uself. You got Stevie, one of the records, Ray Charles records that y'all still rocking to today, James Brown today. They made them forty years ago, some of them older than y'all, So it speaks for itself. The

talent speaks for itself. Authenticity Glass. You know, the fake stuff don't last. It will last two years, three years. If you're lucky, then you get give them something and then it's over right. God damn. From seventy seven, y'all, it's seven seven I'm forty years old. I was born and I was Yeah, let me tell you. I'm gonna tell you something about yourself, busy be. I've seen you everywhere, different countries, different states, different properties, different cities, different or whatever.

And you're always happy, and you always got the weed to you always got the weed. You're always happy. And in case you don't understand how important you are to the culture or important you are to hip hop, important you all, we're gonna tell you tonight, and we're gonna tell you in front your face how much we fucking love you, how much that at anywhere I see you, I dropped whatever the funk I'm doing, I'll give you a fucking hug, and I'll let you know I love you.

But in case you didn't know that, or you didn't understand how much hip hop has to sit down and bow to you. Literally, everybody that's doing hip hop, from a Boogie to Jim Jones to whatever, when they see you, they should literally like this. And if they don't, I'm gonna do it right now. But that's what it is, man. I mean, at the end of the day, again, that's just respect. I respect that and and and all I can do is just keep going. No but your hip

hop royalty. And the thing about it is if we should all bow down to you every single time receive you, because you don't ask for you about that, You don't ask for your respect. You just sit there and you show love to everybody. I see you, I watch you show up to everybody's regardless. But that's not tonight. Tonight is we're showing love to you with Diamond what's up? And he's still getting kid rock money. That's this thing. And listen, man, you gotta be respected, You gotta be saluted.

You have to be because in every other genre of music, when a person gets old or a person has a certain amount of years, they salute them. Hip hop is the only jarmer, the only generation where you get older. And the motherfuckers when we got this guy just got want to change that. That's what this podcast is about. That's what this this this ship is about. It like, yo, let us let us a lout us right because we

now know that. So they've been conticking us. They've been telling us you don't know me, yoyo, why you don't interview new artists? And I said they got any seven got power want to fire. I choose the interview Motherfucker's thirty and upright because I want to interview legends. You want to hear the real stories, and I want to interview people that innovated me, that motivated me. Right and you know, you know I come to the brown You're

brown Motherfucker's but block smoking. But busy be, I don't want you to ever forget or ever loose focus on how much hip hop owes you. That's the only person paid me. It is kid rock. Hip Hop never gave me no you know, I traveled around. They found like that, you know, I never got no what shows and stuff like that regularly on TV show hou We can change that. We're gonna change something like that, you know. But that's what it is. But busy Being, I just want you

to be clear. You're a legend, right, capone knows your legend. If it knows your a legend, we all know your a legend. And we're gonna sit here and we're gonna celebrate your life. We're gonna celebrate your accolades. We're gonna celebrate your accomplishments, and we're gonna celebrate you and for you being who you funk you are and giving your fucking whole life to fucking hip hop because that's the history month, right, It's just like perfect, it's my birthday.

I'm a scorpio, so my birthday Saturday was Saturday the bottom and we gonna pop out. We didn't. We're doing it like that. You know, well, give me, give me that, give me that time. What does that time's so? Because how how did the battle go with you with? Uh see, that wasn't a battle. It wasn't. It was called it was called a DJ convention. It was an m C and DJ convention was in and that was like when me and a J we we did all of those parties. Back then we was the one hiring everybody, using one

paying everybody. And then again it was only a handful of us. We had the Cold Crush had did or the Fantastic fives four d s. It was. It wasn't a lot of hence pioneers, right, so and then you know you didn't have a lot. So we used to always give conventions and MC convention, so everybody that was in m C and the DJ come on that original out conference and show love for everything. And then we have a little contest on the mic and see who do that? And that's what that was. That's that's all that.

You know. He came at me because I didn't know nothing about it. It was like a h ambush. I got ambushed it that night by Cool Mo D. Two ways that. After all the thing's over and everybody happy, and we get any party, and then the person get on and I say, ho, hol, y'all, hold up, don't go away, don't go away. We got one more at your event, right, we got one more person. We got cool Mo D from the Treacherous Street. I want to get damn and everybody okay because they know about the

treacher Street. And then you know, so cool mo D, so cool more D get on stage. Right, Hey, y'all heard about Busy b rocked the party. I'll give it to him. He's the greatest who doing this this. But I just want to say this about this and this and that. Excuse me bee to beep, and I don't mean to be bold. Put the ball, put the ball bullshit on hold, And everybody just starts back there. You know, when they say laughing, we just say, oh, he's snapping

on you. So we said, oh shit, he just snapped on busy, be crazy and everybody crazy, and then he went into his a little rhyme and everybody just went crazy. And I'm downstairs, I'm smoking weed and drinking champagne, doing the same ship right now, and I'm hearing all the ship upstairing. I'm like, what the fu? And they said, yoh ship yo mo D upstairs he going off on you. I'm like, you knew D. Yeah, I knew from okay, you know. But he was no friend of mine, no

ship like that you know right now. No, the promoter has something to do with that. No, nope, nope, I'm telling you what. He wanted to leave his group. He got tired of spending that money. Motherfucker. Then you see this mine and doing getting money all the time, right I was the only I was the highest paced solo MC. He said, ship, I gotta try to get some of

this ship. Somebody retrospect because he's fat and ugly. Today we didn't get down, but you know the facilities, you know, I didn't even get to hear the whole scenario, and to the tape I had to tape the next day and I'm like, oh wow, So I had to call him back out to come on. You want the battle now, We're going to battle now, motherfucker. We're going to go to the Fever where everybody was at knowing for the

disco Fever. Bring your ass on your ome avenue. Yeah, bring your ass to the Motherland and let's you get down right. So and then after that people understood, Okay, she rockets back. It's cool from hem from Haran. Remember what the juice? You better remember where the juice with tupats right right from there? You know what You've made him color the bron right, So you gotta come to right.

You gotta come to the Bronx now. But this is what everybody's going to be at, mother and let's do this should start from a scratch, it would happened and then I just did what the funk I do. So, so what was the bass like when you when you came? What was the boss I got? What was the balls like when you went't at? What? What was the first thing you said? The first things? It's deep you wanted.

It was still wrong. I think I'll be again telling him from the streets to California to the shore is the main people there like the way I run my game because I got style, and I got class, but I don't pop my ship too fast. Got the pH d, got the master's degree. I'm being talked about over coffee and tea, and I float like the butterfly, sting like a beach. And there is no other than rocks like me. And I think that was about it. It was it wasn't. It wasn't a I don't no, no, no now. But

you know you know that. Also, he's involved in one of the first hip hop movies, also Wild Style. We didn't talk that. That said a whole new right as well, because at the end of the day, you got fabulous who is which is crazy? And then so I run into people like fabulous to say, b I watched that movie Wu Style. And see, people don't understand when we was rapping back in the days after the party, people

went home and stuff like that. I came to the parties because see, you know, we got over the day. But back then we had old Jays, the gold Fathers. Those was our Oover's. Today, you know what I'm saying, we could pick out a luxury car called Goldfall, the Cold Jack. He's from the Bronx. To get the nicest right, which right. So I when when they called me to do that scene, I came in that and then when I pulled up in that, they said, oh ship, yo,

we're gonna keep that right there. Yo, that's the documentary right My My my cab driver made a couple of extra dollars because I say, hey, listen, they're gonna pay you a couple of dollars. Stay with me and back then with this twenty dollars for one hour and I'm riding around in town. Give him forty dollars. I'm riding around the limo looking like Hollywood. Anyway, I'm TV now, I'm just trying to play you know what I'm saying.

I'm going to the scene in the limos, and they was fucked up with that, so I said, let's keep that right there. So you know, pull up in that. Then you get in the car, put licaly and all that, y'all drink the champagne, and y'all stay in the car and talk. And that's that's how that scene came in. While staffs like fabulous, and I'm saying, be that was the fly shipped up. The more you get to the hotel, you put the money on the bed so I'm talking

to be ship. So they used that as swag back then for me to they say, yeah, that's some flashes because everybody started doing that after the whole after they parted, they go to hotels, get some girls, smoke some weed, get some champagne, and go to the the hotel. Because that's what I did in the scene, and I would throw it out there. My pet was Burgundy. Just now definitely stick in a different way. Go to the clinic. It came out Burgundy. That's it came out looking like that

has your stuff back. You gotta last drink. Drink way too loud over there, so you see you through the Hennessy ship. You know what I'm saying. Almost Yampaign got me. That's why we connected. Get that. Don't get that every time you drinking because you're a champagne old school drink. You do some rocket you drink. You know, Rob Delio Rose, you said, nor me drink flowers. Listen, listen, I gotta relax. The reason why we start on this show is we

want to give our legends. They flowers when they could smell them, they they trees and they can hit hell them the trees when they get hell them and drinks, and they thoughts when they can think of them, and they drinks when they can drinking. I'm drinking mine, man better, little weird a sting Rays. Let's stop. Forget where we are. How sting race chances? You know? Look? Do you see the owner? He got spurs that jingle? I think you're walking around like you know, but sperm the only the

only country, sting Rays, what's the address? Give us the avenuefty fifth Avenue. If you never had lemon wings, I don't know what kind of wings this is, Rocher. I'm not gonna lie. I think I like to my lakers. I have no idea what I meant, but in so fantastic the winds and this guy is such sting Rays. You gotta come up. You gotta visit stem I'm here in hall of y'all. You this the first time the sting Race, Yes, my first time. Okay, it won't be

your last, it won't be the last of many. And you see we got the magnums might move Happy birthday. We love you know. But but I didn't see it that far in the beginning, Okay, I didn't think like that. I just thought it was almost almost something like what our parents were talking about. It's a fade, it's not gonna last you like that. No, I didn't. And then because I saw the Pepsi commercial quick, you know Mr Freeze from the Breakdancers, he did a commercial with Pepsi

and they had a movie called flash Dance. And when I saw that, I said it's on. I knew it was on because if they started with the Breakdancers, they're going to get to the mcs. And they did with Sprite. Sprite made us rich, Sprite made us happy, you know, and then it went on from Sony Sponsors and then out you know, they start they start reaching out. Then

Gap you got ahold of it. So whoever that was in those industries, that was the corporate person that had to make commercials or to make their person some money, they came to hip hop to save their jobs and to save you know, help us get money, but to save their jobs. So if they was making a hundred thousand a year for what they was doing, when they finally found a wrapper or a breakdancer or an m C to help their people make some more money, they

probably presidents now somewhere, you know what I'm saying. Now, most artists. I problized for cutting you over my brother, but most artists that's been down as long as you've been down. People say that they're better, right, They say that most of these guys, some of them are. Some of them are I bumped into my my peers. Yes, stay on, and they have a good reason to be better. Do you think you know? Because again, if I can wait, I'm just like you, I am you be together your period.

If you haven't just bumped into the right person at the right time, or if you're not running around to chase what what we invented to let people know who you are, then you're not going to get it because nobody's gonna wake up and say, oh well I thought about blow and call you. But if they see you,

you got to create your own look. And if they see you and you look like you're supposed to look, because I mean again, I'm a double nickel, I'm still happy, I'm still drinking champagne, I'm still smoking the same ship. I mean, what what the fuck? But but but why why? Because I mean to be honest with you, your attitude is one of the most beautiful ast pioneers ever, right, Like, so what why are like you you're like to pick up?

Why are you pick up? Like Okay, I'll do it like this, Okay, hip hop change when and will be the Negro League, not the major League, not the major league, and you got the Nero League, and then I would be sat you page in the Negro League and I'm he's a famous picture still top grade. He was at the top of his prime when he was forty. Jackie Robinson, Jackie Robinson was twenty. He was younger that would be

running in d m C for me. They came out with the sucker I'm sorry to when they said, Okay, we want to make records and put our stuff, but you two because maybe I had face shoes stuff on my face and you cut that. That wouldn't appeal to the people as we put on TV for our stuff. So these young guys can save the sucking MC. And then they after leaders with no strength. Nobody was doing

none of these things to people start. We coaches start changing because people started hearing these songs and hearing these people they saw visualizing seeing it. It was a difference. He MTV wasn't showing what we was doing. They got a chance to people start seeing that the Beastie Boys didn't even wasn't on the radio. So they sold a million copies of records how because they was being seen on TV where we couldn't see it. Black folks and have cable. So let me ask you a question. Right,

that was y'all hip hop? Right, and in my in my mind, I could be wrong, correct me anytime. But then NAS came out with his outum right, And when Nas came out of his album, in my mind, but we had MTV, we had your MTV rats, we had Ralph McDaniels, we had more rights social to me, it felt like to me and I could be wrong, and you can tell me, Nori you're totally wrong, but I want I would love your opinion. When Nas that album came up, did it change the error like it changed

the course of hip hop? You know, it changed the east Side. It came back to it the east side. It helps what you just came back with the east Side to. Yeah. Yeah, Now you gotta talk that fly ship, that real ship, because this kid here is Banannas. If you ain't talking with this motherfucker talking about then you just making records. But if you're trying to be a hit. Follow this motherfucker right hit, and that's what's happened. Yeah, I feel I feel so hip hop right there, because

that's exactly the way I would have answered that question. Yeah, now you're here, how are you? How are you doing? How are you doing? Black man? I'm good, you got you and you're looking good. And we made you change your shirt earlier. Keep it read. I didn't change it. Don't say why. I'm not gonna say why we got swamps. I don't so hip hop change my show. So hip hop, so hip hop. Hip hop gave so much to everybody, right, what does hip hop owe anybody? Well? Hip hop and

owe me nothing? Really, because I mean hip hop anybody anything? Well, I doubt it because I've been around the planet and I'm not in the Army, never been in the army, Navy, Marines, and I've seen all I've seen. I've been around the planet. The only place I haven't been on this planet Earth is Russia. I've been the Russia. It's not great. It was the worst experience of my life, Okay, And I don't want to go. Don't go, trust me, don't go

in Africa. In Africa, I mean, everybody said you gotta go, but I don't want to go because they say you gotta take needs, and I'm scared of it. I'm gonna be you gotta get you to come to the needs. So those are only two places I haven't been. I've been in Australia, I've been Germany. I've been to London. I've been several places there with you right right, So

I've been everywhere. But other than that hip hop, donmely not because I saw the I saw the world to where I can come home and tell my friend, I understand why that Chinese person don't want to talk to you, because I understand. I've been to China to where it's like now I understand where I'm in America. Yeah, y'all got me now because I said, hey, you give me French fries and and you don't understand me to where

you're in America. You just know shrimp fried rice and that's what you want, and they're gonna serve you that now when you ask for something different. I said, hey, do you know where Tony City at. I gotta go to the and they say shoes Shane change shang. Hey. I said that that way, Hey, that means no motherfucker. I'm going that way. He said, yeah, Hei, Hey, I'm thinking, yeah, that's the right way to go. That's the wrong motherfucker way.

So you know, you learn. Yeah, so when you come back there and you go to certain places and say, all right, hold up, I'm respect everything you want me to do, so I get the right ship. You know what I'm saying, because at the end of the day, you ain't trying to listen to what they're saying. They're trying to talk to you decent. You still distance your this and them. They hear that ship, but you don't hear that ship they're telling you. So you know you

have the bandage. So he's told us the truth because I kid you not. I know, I said the story earlier. But I went to the bike lane. Does bad bike lanes, So I stopped somebody in the bike lanes and you know what, to get cigars. The busy bee came downstairs and I was stressed. He looked at me, said, what's wrong? Little in my mind, that's what he said. I said, fucking cigars, no one please, And he said you want papers,

because you have papers? What papers? I said, I'm a cigar, Come on and then they said follow me, and he and not only gave me right cigars, but he also showed me that Marlborough Greens. It's new points in your right makes some noise to that said the same ship, the same word he said. He started smoking. He said, oh ship, don't give me another pack. I'm just thinking

what I'm doing. They don't listen. Man, I can't appreciate you so much because the thing about it is this, But me and my partner, the e F started this podcast. We wanted to honor our legends. It wants to our pioneers. We wanted to honor the people that most people don't really look at and say, salute you and the people inspired us and the people that inspired us. So when we have a person like you in the building, busy want to be we want to salute you. I want

to let you know how much you appreciate. I want to thank you all for the block party. I feel right part of you if I have that magnum too, because these two, those two it's going with like both, I feel right part time. No, we can't cop that. I'm gonna take this to the cribs like to keep that. I'm gonna dropping that right, drink that drink that busy Yeah, I gotta gotta give right yeah, justus to me, right yeah, right back to me and the wife. But we don't

got no more about us. Yeah, we gotta take a shot. We got take a shot down. Come on, take a shot and take a shot because Leon, come on with the shot glasses. Come on, brother, you've been looking at me the old time to make sure I'm good. And the shot glass part, you're not. You're not involved. He did not kill that, didn't you have a busy beat? Man? Let'm gonna tell yourself again. I thank you all man, and then I in mind like this, let's not get

it twisted. I am hip hop and I have always existed throughout these physical forms and these new presents and times. I am still the chief rock a busy beat, and I want to thank y'all for y'all mother time. I

want to pick up. I want to pick up my people zero minus, want the big up my people, Mike Booth, I want to pick up Chang Bang because at the end of the day, we didn't know that hip hop started out in the Bronx and Queen's all right because we listened to MC shann reckon right, and he said hip hop started out on the dock, and we thought we really did started there. But then when we did our research and we realized that it didn't start in

the bronx. The only thing we can do as human beings is big that up right and sit there and prospect what it is. But let me let me finish. Because you know why I want you to let me finish is because all legends don't be so looting. Are legends never has looked upon as if as if they should. This is the problem with hip hop, busy be is when you get old, when you get whatever, these people wanted to tell you to go home, Let's change that me and you can do this. I tell you what. No,

we're changing it right now, changing it right something. This is what we're doing because you can. Let let me finish, busy me because you know why bus because and drink chips. You don't have a fucking age, you don't have a fucking liability. We're sitting here and we fucking respect off legends and we love them. Got on the yellow hat. I have no idea. Why just do that out there right?

Ship hard yellow hats all for Busy Meat, You're one of the pioneers I see everywhere, and you always smiling, You're always happy, you always sit there and you show me love. And if I have a platform where I can give love back, efn could give a love back. There's no motherfucking way in the history of niggerdom that I will not have this platform and not show you the love that you fucking respect you deserve. I appreciate

that and you fucking honored. We on behalf of all of us because the CN p CN Drink Champs, Murder Unit, so down, malitatement hood, crazy hug one left, Frack City right fifty seven and Vernon Boulevard, Tim Street, Twelfth Street. We all want to collectively come together and say, Busy Beat, we love you. We're going to continue to love you. And tonight I wanted you to be my guest host. I wanted him to help host rock him. But but but guess what that means, That that that that this

is not gonna end. We're gonna continue to do it. It's sting race. What's the addressing race? Come over here, Come over here, Eve, We're gonna come here to stay and hall and we're gonna do it because you know why, if the people ain't gonna respect all people, guess what them people, And we're going to continue to respect our own people. And busy Be, we want you to know you could come any time you want to come, right. You can guess host, you can co host, you can

bro host. I'm coming, man, you can do whatever you want. That's what I like, because you want to see the impact that this has when you on here. But we love you, busy Be, thank you. We will never ever ever stop loving you. And hip hop has to love you as well. That has one cocaine just so he got his give me my Oh my god, I feel like I got to relax. You're ready, shallow sallow, busy Bee to a great business. He killed that he give that Oh no death dearly y the other stuff this

time cheese hang babydad that one. I feel like mug dark day. Hold on, we gotta let meet y'all to my going Swarty Dias where you at Monday. You go over there right right right, you gotta get right right one nig on Swarty Deans st Yeah yeah, big dud s putty thieves, rest in peace, mall and Brando. We love everybody makes him know salute, So what's going on my brother being a part of the legendary You were

signed a boltor correct? No, we were signed to initially rough House, rocket Block Columbia initially, and then rough House dropped out and then it was Rocket Block Columbia. So how does it fail? Man'll be because you're still a hip hop legend. People, you gotta respect you asself. I don't know if for your legend, but what one thing that I want to say is rest in peace to my main, Malon Brando. We salute a lot of a lot of our falling heroes. Um my man Brando died

a hero. A lot of people playing to that explain that, well, you know, we we should, we should look a lot of um hip hop heroes. Debt got murdered, my man died saving a child, God bless you know what I mean. So he's a hero, you know what I mean? And you want to detail that exactly how that happened. Well, um, so that would be somebody in the hip hop culture that represented we we we we we remember, I remember

what what what what? Chris right right right and and be more right so so so so at the end of the day when when you say that that's one of the members of the group, they passed away, Okay, Chris hitting me with that. And so so when you say, um, because he is a member of the hip hop culture, you know, doubt and sporty Thieves are exactly that and and and we shout out that. But then you said that he did something, and my brother, he did a

selfless a selfless, selfless act, which is super dope, super dope. Right. Unfortunately, the culture that we live in, right, Um, no, no, no, no, what what I'm saying is for hip hop, right, a lot of people get killed. It's part of it's part of the culture that we live. Right. For someone to to see a car coming, push a little kid out the way and take that head as super dope, that's that's super dope, you know what I mean. We didn't you know, sporty Thieves, chief skate Pigeons or all that.

We didn't have a lustraous career whatever. But we have a we have a hero for hip hop, right, And that's what you know, I mean, that's not that's what and that's what k was gonna Happy birthday, King Kurt, you know, And what I gotta say to you because I feel like you need to hear this as well. You shouted us out on the podcast before when he was talking about the whole Um hip Hop Union and all that, which was super dope, which we need, we need, we need. Well, I want to say it to you

in your face. Okay, sporty thieves, you, your whole brother, your union, y'all appreciate it, of course. Right. We love yes, right, and we love hip hop's and we love hip hop and we love him, love love my brother. You know what I want to do is gonna make hip hop shoulders. I love you, and we also have wrong. Hold on, hold hold hold on, hold on. You know you know we did shows to give all that, y'all. I just want to say, yo, I'm proud of you, my brother,

thank you. So I'm proud of you, my brother. Ya do your thing. Thank you. Someone up. We got robbed, and then I didn't let me tell you something, Cashana, let me tell y'all something. Robbing, busy. We're gonna going rob robber love Puff Daddy and my mother has the same fucking birthday, so I always text you two days before your birthday. I always be like season here. I always hit robbing motherfucking rob Love in the building and rob Love when he when he had it, he had

it that he was holding us down. He's the artist, tapped me on the on the promo side, and we love girls a birthday bay like he loved a drink chap, thank you? How are you feeling? Robbingly great? Great? Nineteen nineteen and a half half holders, Let me have somebody rose day? Can we go a birthday shop? Birthday choice? Say? Don't you gotta be on my love? He DeLeon is good with me? Did he did? He don't work? Oh? Yeah, that's that's that's that's how I get it. You gotta

take it. You're really good? Yeah, you know? Not a ticket? And I'm waiting. I represent so Did he changed his name the love of money? And probably so? Did he? Did he change his name in love? Did he change his names? I appreciate that. I respect that. I appreciate that well. I respect that is in front of you. And let everybody, everybody yo up. Yet I need some weights and my other trip joints, trip choice to change?

You want to chalist another fuck? Chalice shot? Hold me so listen, let me tell you something let me tell you something. I gotta speak. I gotta speak single yea, y'all tell these be black days. They gotta relax. Holdup, got listen, go ahead. The fact is we are representing hip hop every single moment of our fucking show, and hip hop will be represented every single morning. Fucking shut robbing up. If we don't represent you, we ain't hip hop. Rob Love, we love you. I don't know why I'm

taking another shot. That's not the business. Thank you? Got her not win. It's not good. At is amazing, but not right now. I'm sorry. That's not good. That's not what you did today. What's going on? What you to fight? You know what I'm saying. It was like the Tyson fight Blyn was real, real ship. You know what I'm saying. It was exciting, you know what I mean? First thing they'd got out let us actually actually, because you know this is industry ship. How did you get in the

musically business? Rob Block? However, first and foremost, I wanted to be like y'all, I wanted to rap. You got right, I got bars. So what I'm gonna do it? Come on, brothers, come on the busy being him was doing the thing. I'm hunt the ropes, watching attention, said, sneaking up on the Bronx and all the last few bars. Yeah, but you know there was a better Bars out there, So I said, hey, let me go behind the scenes. You

know what I'm saying. I know what the bars will do, But if you do it better than I do it, I'm gonna let you do it. I'm not gonna say no, I'm gonna do it, and I'm just gonna be better than you. I'm gonna say, yo, I'm gonna let you do it, but I'm do it this way or go or put it over here, you know what I'm saying. And that's how I kind of like caught the bug. And I was like, damn, you know what I'm saying. You need promotion, don't killing it, and then you need marketing.

Then you need a budget, then you need a platform, then you need to able and you need T shirts. You need you know what I'm saying. You throw your dudes in the hoods and T shirts. That's definitely the greatest market and plan I've ever heard. Just he just broke down the whole market, the greatest marking, the plan ever, most and most most of most of the cats that worked with me a depth chance they were all rappers or producers, you know, kids old because on my team

he started producing for the set. You know what I'm saying, you know, shock the zulus on my team. You're trying to say, you know what I'm saying, No, you know I helped it. We're not. You gotta pass. Tell them you made that? Bro to who you said? No, I didn't make that um getting together? No, no, No, that wasn't my doing, not at all. Just the energy, just the energy of the people that was you know, I'm saying, supporting the team. You know, you know went on to

do different. What's your favorite hip hop rock? I don't think I reached it yet. He's optimistic now he's dope. You want to say that when you wasn't running around with death jam, that wasn't your favorite. I think that was my sleep ever, you know what I'm saying, because you know you were so pulled up, caught up in the passion of it. You know what I'm saying. You know, the light wasn't bright enough for me to be wake to see all the business things that opportunities that could

and the other opportunity know we created other opportunities. But you know what I'm saying, Just like, just like hip hop, when people were putting Hennessy and different products into their lyrics, they didn't know that there was a check that they were supposed to get. Even the people that made Hennessey didn't know why they was, you know, selling a whole lot of more Hennessey for something apparent reason. I wasn't in their marketing and playing. That ship came from the streets,

you know what I'm saying. So once they started evaluating the street, then they say, hey, the street guys that understanding, we need to for some money into them. And hip hop started eating everything that was. Let me get you, Robbed Love story, after you I got, I want to I have a personal busy beat. Come over here, busy you ain't got you gotta see yo. Look look let me tell you. Let me tell you Rob Love right, I had a record, Little Records. You're not gonna tell

us home board. I came to party you had, you know, and I went to everybody and I played it to them. It was like, that's it go. When I went to Rob Love's office and I played it and Rob and you you can stop me anytime, Like, I played it for Rob Love. Now mind you, I'm supposed to play it for le or I'm supposed to play for Kevin Liles. I came to Rob Love's office and Rob Love said, I played it for Rob Love. You tell me from lying at any moment. And Rob Loves said, we're going

to flex tonight. You stopped me from lying at any point, and I said, damn, I kind of played for Leo and Kevin lives and Rob said, fuck him. Stop at the point you stopping me, I didn't say the check right now. He didn't say that. You know. I'm like, I'm freaking what happened? What happened was okay, what happened? You know? So you know, we just did came up the Grimy tour and we went all across the country. We should get up, shipped the streets up, you know,

it was dark. And then we came back and it was trying to schedule the album. Right nobody stopped. No one was scheduling the album. And it was like, okay, he was no he was concerned. So I'm like, yo, what do you got? What do you got in your back pocket? And he was like, you know, I got this, let me hear it. So I throw it in. Two seconds later, I'm like, so I called flects automatically, just like I said. I was saying, yo, yo, if he got the record, that's ridiculous, let's be clear. He says, Yo,

bring it to me. So at the time, now the station was a little off limits. What had happened. Happened was just shut out to happen. I have no idea that happened was but anyway, okay, he wasn't allowed to come into the hot night it was anyway. So we get to the station, We run out the building, you know, fools beat ahead. Get to the station and Flex opens a crap to the door, like a crap, like, YO, give me the record. So we just lit it through the crack of the door and we went back downstairs.

So were listening, like you know what I'm saying. Seven o'clock comes, I mean, hunting going on. There's nothing going on, you know, it's like, yo, funk that I'm out in. So he leaves back. I said, I'm gonna get some mice. So and then basking Robbins getting mice, and then and then calls me like yo, you know listening to the radio. Why He's like, Yo, you're gonna turne on the radio. Flex was just talking for about half an hour straight, just telling people. I think this is where he probably

got the YO. If you're on the West side, always if you, if you, if you, if you, if you're doing something right now. It was a different it was a different way right to announce this records. It was so disgust. He was telling this pole over so nigers don't deserve to be driving and still listen to this. So he's like, you're not going to commercial so he sucked up hot night. He's having money on the advertisement side. He's like, y'all listen, I was gonna talk about this

record right now. And then he goes, Yo, Nori, I need the hold this. So now everybody you know was listening to Flex. Whenever you play there and drop bombs on, They're like, Yo, that ship better be in my inbox. Everybody's calling me yo, something just record because because Flex is playing my record and saying pick up rob Love. So now that's FLEXI, what's it mean? So did he was on me for the record right So when I was like when they pulled me in the office, Yo,

what's up? He's just taking records going the radio. You think I can No, I didn't why because the world needed to hear that record. The world needed to hear what the funk I heard, which was nothing. Now that sounds crazy, hearing nothing but dash it. It was the boy listen to me. Rob looked at me and said, we gotta go tonight. This is I went and played the record for a while and then all the CEOs

was like, this is this one? And then Rob Loves came to me and said, listen, funk everybody, we're going to flex tonight. I said sure because we had just got the master back, and Rob said, yes, we're going tonight. Fuck them and I could want of the centil Me and you was both in. He was so in trouble with that. I mean sure that there was no technically, you're definitely I'm getting the definitely blamed it on me. It was my idea, but they never ever ever complained

about it. Because it worked and love that thou plus plays on commercial radio. It opened up the budget, the album was scheduled, he went on another tour. The money opened up. We just it was nothing, but we love you, We love you. For I want to take it down Twain notes because this personal actually a personal question. No, no, it's not that serious. Maybe maybe Revolt's not gonna probably air this party but online Virgil, But when when, um, when you hired us to be me to be the

street team manage in Miami. Let me let me just yeah, because I'm gonna say, my brother, my younger brother, I'm the old man. We're born on the same day and you know, you know, but definitely w I don't even know where he's going with yeah, we just ship. If it wasn't definitely wasn't ship, so that my boy is good too. I ain't gonna you know, But there's my question because this is I've been debating this in my

I don't know where this goes. I know when because I was working the Tommy Boy account when when there was a penalty and when he moved over, he told me, I'm gonna bring you over. I want you to work my ship deaf Jam but also my homie rest in peace, Doc Fresh Yes, and a matter of fact, his birthday is today too. That is my brother. And he told me also, e, I'm gonna give you the account. So so I want to know because it's it's like, I don't know how did it happen? Was it a combination

of both? I can tell you yeah, absolutely, I'll tell you exactly what happened. But let me just salute Eugene, Doc Fresh, Robinson and fact green Eyes shut out him, DJ will trust Miami. And the interesting thing about Doc Fresher, he told me he had a rapper fat Man Promotions, his fat Fat Man promotion. He told me he had a rapper that he wanted me to look at because he he knew that he'd be a great fit for death tim And before I can go down and sign

floor rider, Doc Fresh passed away. So rest in peace to darc Fresh Fat Man Promotions. But to answer your question, yes, he said to me. He said to me, uh, he said to me, if anybody has a car parked on Fifth Avenue goes down, I got a marathon tomorrows, just talk to me. Let me, let me tell you, let me tell you, let me tell you what happens. It was a combination of freshest approval without a doubt, and definitely you know, because me and Norri were so insnct

on what was needed to win. If I needed that a you know what I'm saying, like that was a no brainer. You know, if he was cool and comfortable with you, he was cool and comfortable with me, his people with my people. So that's how it was. So whenever, you know what I'm saying, it was like, yo, who you quit? I rock with here, Fenn. But let me describe that moment. Listen that moment I had. I had

the record. I knew the record was crazy. I went to Rob Loves office and I said, Rob, and then Lee all and everybody said, I like to other version. I played it, but now Leo doesn't hear this version. Kevin lives is heard the version, the only version horror. The version is just me and Rob blah. So I come and play. Rob says to me. He looks at me. He says, nobody heard this. I said, nobody heard this. He says, are you ready to love? And I knew he meant we could get a dropped if it doesn't work.

If it doesn't work, we can all go down the worst river we ever went down. But he looked at me, he said, you sure you love it. I don't even remember if he actually listened to the record. He looked at me and said this is it, Yeah, this is it Flex to Night. I did not agree with him at all, but I wanted to be like yes. I was like yes, Flex to Night, and we went to Flex one but said I never agree with anything that Rob. That's the first time I'm even telling you, And Rob said,

funk that if you believe it. I really did believe in the record. I didn't agree with going to Flex at that moment. And then this after This is the beautiful thing about that record is Flex played it three times and you can tell Flex didn't listen to No

three times when he played He just played it. He just going like this, and then the third time he goes, hold up, Rob Nor, you motherfucker's really kind of reck and then he played it for three more hours and they all looked at me and Rob Love prior to that and said, you motherfucker's don't ever come back to the belt. Then I got a question for you, you know.

And then after Flex played it sixteen times, it said be in the building, first thing in the wall, because you put your job on the life for me, and I did it every fucking day I walked into that building. Man if if I didn't believe in what I was doing, then I would say, fire me if I didn't believe in you know, the Red Man mascot, and fucking fire me. I'm saying, if I ain't believe in Rapping Shine's Phantom,

then fire me. So so all this the ship that I did while I was there, I believe, I really believed in it, and you know, and I stood behind it. But I gotta question for you when you, okay, when you was recording that record, right, because this is kind of hey, it's kind of dumble meaning right, hey, it's called nothing, and then your lyrics were it was about nothing exactly, so so I just thought it was genius. Oh god, no I was. I got ain't got on my nerves. So he told me to do something that

I did it and that's it. You gotta relax, tell me, I gotta relax. Tell me. I got your new single, Cayenne Baby, what's up? Make it to the baby? Happy birthday, Rob Love, thank you, appreciate it. I love the dream. Cheers. No, we love you. We love you. We're wrapping up family. We I'm not dead while we're still here in seventeen hours later. We've been here since this o'clock. We're doing what we gotta do Tall TV. We love y'all and this is how we gotta do it. Happy Birthday, one love,

and y'all want to take another shot, I'm in. I'm kill next shots were building