Episode 103 w/ Irv Gotti

F This drink Chess, motherfucker happy hour makes right. Now we have when it comes to hip hop and it comes to producers, we have one of the most legendary producers in the building. If if, if, if he would have been in the game, mumble rap wouldn't exist. But they got him out of that. They try to get him out of the game. They try to get Dame out of the game. They try to get d out of the game. And then when you get the CEOs out of the game, then the young youngest have no guidance.

So that's why mumble Rappers created. But if he was out. I got I was, But the Man has discovered people's careers, even related to people like Jay C. Make some noise for that. You can make some ranking records. Resurrect the record, lad. What with Dr Max in the game. He's brought one of my closest friends that brought up to stardom rule. Yeah, I don't know what I'm talking about. A boy. Now we are talking about the legendary the Gillers, one of

the killers muggles out there, her motherfucking Lorizzo. Yeah, I'm so happy to find me home. I came here to get drunk and high because I saw you on every Day Struggle. I've come here and get drunk and high with my guy Nori and to talk about hippop. Many people saying, do you want to get drunk in high hand? Well, this is what you have to do when you're here at drink cha, drink listen. I don't even smoke. I'm smoking with my man. Man says Sols, and there were

to go. So now I want to take it from the damn Nobody got got me a coup coup from me? I look up right there. Oh yeah, no, that's a third okay, Yeah, just so listen, a lot of people, Uh when I noticed, like, you know, my new like found career, like like people will will take a piece of my career and they'll be like, uh, you know you did this head. But what I want to do what you is, I want to start this from the

beginning because I remember seeing you. I've just seen a video recently somebody was building with J Rule the Damage. I was there and he was there, So that was that was that was like, when did you actually get started in this game? Like cash money clip error before before that won't make success makes successful. I got started. If you want to really started, I started when I was eleven years old and DJ and around them so that's cool, DJ DJ DJ, MOM fucking Earth DJ and

that my man Nick Chalmers. His pops was Trinny and he had two turntables and I used to see his turntables in the mix up and I used to just stay in his crib and cutting and scratching this record called Shangrala. It was just a break and just literally for hours, and you know what I'm saying. And that's when if you want to start the origin, that's where the love and everything started. The tables and then I

heard Sucking Season. There's all. That's all she wrote, is that how you how did you develop from going from a DJ to a producer? Well, I'm from Hollee Queen, so running them lived down the block and J and

running a little down the block. So what more of an impression could have been felt than the niggas who was running the whole world and making everyone by Adidas and they really controlled the world and was like colossal, offer big and they lived down the block, right, So my influence started right there just seeing Jay had a five sixty bands with the Chrome Rooms, and I thought he was just the coolest motherfucker. And I was like,

I want to be that. So at fifteen years old. Absolutely, So at fifteen years old, my man quite sing he locked up. Now he's gonna see this, and he's immediately gonna hit me some way somehow. We're like, yo, somebody go ahead, Yeah, quick scene. Uh. Jamaica Park was where we did a park thing. So I was fifteen years old. My brother Chris got me to DJ and my park What did you make a walk? One time? Scared to my lowers plan and then it was a shootout that

happened let's get to you your story. Jamaica. There's hey Jamaica Park, so boom, I get in. I get in Qua Sine smacks, the gold Field gives me the headphones. Go ahead, shure, you do your thing. I put on a rock box and at the end of the rock box scene, you know, run said run Run Holless Crew, and I knew Holly Sniggers was in there, so I just destroyed that Holless Crew. Holless I Love my Hands was like a blur. The cry went crazy in the older heads said Joe shire Park. Now I was fifteen.

He said, Joe, you got the park. If you week, you play the music. Okay. That's when I first also learned that uh that uh, the world don't give a funk about black people. Wow, because I used to DJ, and like my niggas used to be like every B for President was the Ellis record right there. So he would say, yo, play every B for President and then get in the house, which mean every B for President.

Everyone was whoopy woop, going crazy than you would just say but ba and like niggas was getting laid out. But the reason why I said, I feel out that they don't really give a funk about us because they never stopped us. So if niggas got laid out Friday, they would lock the house back up. We got the thing, niggas would come shoot it, open, open the door, and

we're right back out there. The same cops that picked up the body is right there and they ain't stopping right like if it was little Johnny they got blasted. They no one ever is gonna So I learned early. Like on another note, I learned earlier. They don't really give a funk about us, you know what I'm saying. So that's how you developed. Like, what do you think it's easier to do DJ or produce? Uh? DJ is easier. DJ is easier because it's just about I can party.

Someone else did the hard work of making the hit right, claim that, So DJ DJ is way easy to produce and producer. You have to think and feel what's going to move the public and create new sounds, and you know it's that's way way more DJ make a great producer, right, A lot of Yeah, you know, you look at all the DJ all of you know, Dre and Mayor and everybody like that. Everyone the DJs, we just have a

knack of what people want. That's our job to move to move to people, and is most of the time it's better for a person to be a DJ person and going to the production because now there's a lot of people that's producers. And now I sees the Swiss beats, like Swiss beasts out the DJ though, right right, you're right, So it's SPECIs DJ nowadays is the wild wild West. It's like not about a turntable, you know, you know, now it's just a computer. I can do that. Yeah,

I can do it. Yeah, one day I need to do He was funking, playing on his fun then he goes over here like this the whole time, and it was going to good. I said, oh, I'm gonna do that. Yeah. Is now I'm sorry. I'm so sorry, dude. That's what they that's what they're doing that I ain't gonna live.

I found it knowing DJs was getting like the ad ends they get like like seventy show more like the big ones, get this, sell out the garden, get he'll get five hundred thousands and the and the music on that worse another dun I heard the drugs definitely later. So now the famous battle right jay Z DMX I was. I was not there. I just heard about it. You just heard about it, Yeah, I just heard about it.

But J and X was interesting, interesting because both of them still still say you actually J was recently saw well not recently, but there's an interview with Jason I never lost the battle, and then we had X on here, X who won the battle because the next set he said he never lost the battle. But but you know, the truth is, X was like, I didn't lose it, but people may have thought I lost it. You see what I'm saying. And he didn't like it because JA

broke out. So JA did his rhyme and basically said, yeah, yeah him such a such, Yeah I'm ghost and broke out to the roar of the crowd. So he didn't let X get a chance. This is Brackford brought the ship to get Yeah, yeah, you know he but but JA knew because everyone knew X and J so J knew this thing you're gonna go all night and Jason really before they were both on This is just a them just being the niggas in the hood and ship like that. And what was the first wake they've recorded

after that? Wasn't money cash holes Oh, I used to get I don't know before well, you guys have to have you guys had freestyles. I don't know. Tell me. We used to got these dad tapes from my mixtapes before murder Inc. Was like officially the lab which was yeah, j John, Yeah, that was I called them murdering. It just never happened. It's crazy because I was, you know,

with the BT Awards. I was watching the Ciphers and I was sitting there and I told b J, and I was like, it wouldn't be special if I get murdering to do this cipe for one year job like now, oh my god, that would be crazy for hip hop. The only way for me to do this because the only one that wouldn't do it is holes. X is like I'm in, Joss, I'm in, So he's the hope is always the How was that for you when joh

and X what's going through? That hated it? Because you know that I hated it because then both of them is truly my brothers. I love both of those guys. I would die for both of those guys, understanding I hated it, and and and just quite honestly, in my opinion, X was wrong because I forgot about his people. He said exactly like, I came out with Holla holla, X from coming and got it and he's just saying, it's my record. So with X, what had happened was exactly this.

It was too many people saying, Yo, it's furder hall Hold coming up to him and that ship was just making his blood boy. And if you know X the way I know X. X really don't like any rapper, No, he don't. He's cool with you and you're getting the booth. I'm gonna get that, and he just he just happens to put where he from what feels like, I like you as cool, but if I get on the track

with you, I'm trying to burn you down. Like if you want to take it to this, he'll start talking to you if you don't feel like he went if you didn't seen us early on, it was funny. So so with Leo Lee we had Leo Hire and the story where he rhyme for Leo with a wired Joe Joe's wire shut and then yeah, to take you back before that, I quit death Jam, I quit before are you talking about before X got signed? I quit because

it wasn't letting me sign. Next, the very first meeting I had with Deaf Jam, Tina Davis, James Jones, there was my bosses and giving me my my my duties of what I have to do as and then directed. So I sat there and I was like, yeah, yeah, soon as they fantasy, yo, we gotta sign X. And they started laughing. So like a couple of months went by and they had me just doing ship that I didn't really want to do, and uh, I left, there's the reason why they would laughing and you wanted to

sign that. The specific reason they was just the last been already wrest lashing that my rambunctiousness and ambition at the very first meeting, I'm talking about signing and act and they was like you got and you had already first crazy. I didn't bring Jay Z suggest I helped. That was a part of Jay coming to Deaf Jam. I'm not gonna lie earth, I'm gonna be honest as a person that was in the industry. When we first

it boys, it get at me, don't. Yeah. When we first heard it, we were confused because the energy just wasn't And then I seen the video video the black and white joint ever finished. It was black and white. I hated it that first everyone did the first like I was like, and they don't. I realized y'all planned that.

And then I realized that because like you know, the day people's eyes and when I looked and I was like, these things it is in the tunnel that was then in the boat listen the whole reason why because Diddy was winning so hard. You know what I'm saying. That's why I get like the whole people when they when they're coming up and they just hate them all fuckers who's winning. Like, I didn't hate Diddy like that, but I hated him on the load because he was winning.

Because I hima listened, did the more money more pros? I was wearing camouflage, he was wearing Look, I'm looking at the more moneyment. I'm like, the grass never looks so green sky, the sky is so shot, right, I said, we're gonna beat the antime. That's crazy. And that's why. If you remember the say did that video? Yeah video, yes, listen and fucking uh the sound bite. Remember DMX live at the tunnel phone place, and then he goes, let's take it back to the streets. Motherfucker just sucking your

eyes and you're the funniest story. Because I thought I had the dopest video ever. The exact vision that me and I wanted was falsely. So I go to death jam I'm and I'm about to get the label little boy, and I got everyone in the conference room. I cut the fucking lights up. We're playing a video in the dot room. You have to watching the dot room. It

really fucked your ship up. And word the mother, I'm the only one in knit like yeah, and everyone is like going, like the video stops, and Julie was like, Julie Greenwell, just might be the worst video I've ever seeing her. Why did you waste her money? You're a fucking idiot, You're a moron. Then they kept saying, who's gonna buy his records? He keeps balking on his FU records. God, and you're a fucking idiot. You're an idiot, and they

totally deflated me. And I went back and I said, fun, y'all, y'all don't know what's hot y'all, and these always I went to the whole you know, you don't know what the fun is going on ship, And that's when I started putting a triangle with five in DMX and everyone's office, predicting he was gonna sell five. Let's make that guy, let's make for four minute. It was got here, fucking who's gonna buy his reckings? Dogs? You're gonna get you

wilskid't buy records, Gotti. But to this day, like I don't think there will never be another DMX, Like like the thing is like when you see DMX and you could you could tell like you can, uh, it goes back to the artistry. Then I've never seen DMX on stage with somebody else, Like I've never seen a ranger. Guess out. I never seen that's one. I was watching the show because I went to the Hip Hop Awards

too yesterday. I was watching and I was like, damn, there was nobody there, like even had dancers, they had somebody like there was there was no guy who just came out just like no disrespect. And I like the mumble rap guys, mumble rap. I know I don't call it mambo rap. Listen to me, listen, just listen to me break this down. One. They did a great thing. They did. I don't know why. What was they gonna

fucking do after pock Jade nas Biggie thing. So these this new generation created their own sound and they you got to give them credit. Let's give them credit us not only Yeah, I've seen I've seen some kid the other day. He was on a couple. He was like the XXL. I said, this Niger needs help. This nigg shouldn't be freestyle. And the only thing he's the only well I don't get is this style of dress and stuff like that. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Je

tried to help him out. When you say Tupac had a nose ring to jay re laxed there out of control, right, But like the dress that they wear. In the dress, how the addressing, you know. And I'm cool with if you want to wear skinny jeez, but it'd be like dy've be leaning. I don't even want to say because I don't want to with the shot glass. No, I don't want to say because I don't want to know what you mean. I don't want that community to think against them. And I'm not going out saying but they

look weird, you understand. And it's not masculine. You know what I'm saying. It's not like masculine, with that the music wise, I'm like, holy sh it, these niggers did it. They thought of their own way after arguably the greatest generation of rappers that ever fucking grace to Mike, and they were like, well, we can't do that. Think about it. If what is a rapper gonna say that's new that you haven't heard, Like, come on, man, you know what

I'm saying. Listen. They talked about I'm a cruddy negatives. They're going a raw dog and dirty bitches, and if I get burned, I'm giving that ship to dirty bitches. You said, you know when Nigel like me us again and poppy because I have my small opinion face, but I ain't poppy, like you can't be no row in this nigga. You see. I posted the other data to supply all of the illness and that nick niggas wanted to try. I'm like hip hop at his roarer's form,

you're not gonna get that. But if I'm a new rapper, I don't want to do that because fun nigga. I can't do it better than that nigga. So I'm gonna do some other ship that's my own lay. And see I appreciate that, because that's what I had to do with murder ring Like Jaws, a gritty ass rapper, Jaws a battle rap nigga, Him and x use the battle niggas and killed niggas all day. But once Jay is at the top of his fucking the game and Excess

at the one am I doing with my label? And I hear is I held Rockefeller, I held Rough Riders, I get my own label, and I'm like, yo, these two niggas is in my way. I don't want to sell two million. I want to sell seven eight like these guys. But in my way I can't. No one's gonna outgool j. He's the coolest rapper ever in the world. And this he does the sweat, you know what I'm saying. And this nigga Excess the do Prime and street n He's wets a lot, he's wets a lot, he's robbing.

They're like, Yo, what the funk? What am I gonna do? And it put me in the corner to create the ring sound. And then John rule, Yo, listen. This was a one time I was very scared because John kept hanging with Shug Right. I said it on the shop and John act like he don't remember this, and I remember when I came around with the studio and sugar do I ouncer like that time. It's not like they did this before. I was like, listen, and then I said he said, he said, Shug brought me a six four.

I said, you gotta get that back. You gotta give that back. He was like, nah, but yo, I was. I was. He just listen cool. I was nervous. It's a little so and then he I was nervous. Let me give you the shot. Stay please, please please. I know you got more than one though, cool I got a tough but listen, hold on, you pulled one. I'm like the one dude that murder ring was the one cruel, especially from the cream. He fused with all of us. I'm gonna give you the real ship. I'll give you

the real ship. That's what that's what we do a drink and now I will do another. I'm gonna give you a real ship. So how we got so, how we got cool with your night? Get ice in there? This time? We heard the stories just like every fucking body else is this guy. You gotta watch him. He's the prince of darkness. Is that we heard those stories. But hold on, Nick's called him the Prince of darkness. I imagine that when he wants to be he is. Yea. So I sampled fucking so many tiers. Not only did

I sample it was able. Not only did I sample it, I had pot race. We're not fearing no man but God, even though I walked through add his voice. So you said you did this before. I didn't any feelings with what Sugar I thought she had so many times was in her skull because he wasn't all death from that gap point. But what was Shug took everything. So one shog took pot. When I called Jimmy and in the skull pieces earth, you gotta call Chug, I said, I cool.

They don't call him marrying that. They taught it sometimes, I said, did you wait a minute, Wait a minute, chug it. Jimmy was tight. Did you see the other doctor he's playing football with, David Geffen, the one I d me out? Yeah? Did he said? It was football Sundays and you've seen Mary and he was tight? Hi was it was like this money you understand, and she'll

gonnaways show me love. I can't even I can't even front of show any time, like the street niggas that after he did, like your story, not quite type of bone. This is this is more than enough for you. So. But the thing about it is so, I said, for the record, he calls me, I give the number. Two is people. He calls me, he said yeah. I said, yeah, I'm an enterprise. I'm in l A. He said, I'm gonna come through. I'm gonna come through. I say, cool. So now I'll be honest, Chucks coming over. You heard

all the stories. Everyone, get ready, ain't no pumpkin ship going on. You know what I'm saying. We're gonna be cool. We ain't gonna overdo it or whatever. But I ain't gonna lie. It was like twenty niggas in the studio. It was a gangster session. Pring was there, all my niggas was there, and it was cool. Ship comes in. He got like five of his niggas or whatever, and he's smoking his cigar and he's seen this ship and niggas is just that we ain't on no bullshit. But

he can see the temperature of the thing. Is this ain't no, this ain't like security. This is niggas ready. This is niggas. You understand, the niggas just looking like it's whatever. So he's seen Prem always got love. I've never seen a person with I've never seen him not get like maximum love and respect. And even if you don't know whole preme, it's just a good, good dude. So boom and you know, so boom he sees Prem, He's like, oh, Ship, what up? Homi? Primes like, what's up?

All cool? Ship? He comes in. He's smoking a cigar first as he said, Oh, y'all, niggas ain't gonna know Hollywood, ship are you? And he was like, nah, you know what I'm saying. And were Enterprise? Nah? And he was like, I Lovederprise. You love the Enterprise. We used to book in the Prise. Apple. Boom he goes. He said, y'all check this out. We start talking. He's met him and Rule,

he asked, Rule, the questions is the true story? I never lied, So whenever whatever I say, that's what gets to me be the problems because I never lied, right, So boom, he asked Rule. So, so where you see yourself from five years homie? And Rule? You know he's smoking his blood, he said, man skies the limit nigked skies the limits and should shut it shut a tear because he said that was the same told me this story. He's sitting there, it's the same, exactly what my man said.

And he got emotional. And it's scary when that when that, when you see a big nigga like that, That's why I'm like, he's he's sending nig what I'm saying. But then after that he got he got a motion on the thing and it was a moment you know what I'm saying me and rule put his hands like he's all good and he's watching over you or whatever like that. And he said after that, he was like, man, you can you can have that. You can have that sample. They didn't charge me a penny. Girl, I got hair.

Not naming no names with a certain street niggas that we funk with the new yall that don't like shigging him when we see us and we'll be like, yo, how to funk you funk with that nigga? You know my man b J. We're tell him. Nigga's like, man, if we listen to whatever you want to say, we shouldn't fun with you. You know what I'm saying. Or whatever like that. You know, but how could I not have a relationship with the guy he gave me the sample for free good about you. Never was no one,

no bullshit, never tried no bullshit. It was just a pure good relationship. And honestly, I'm a pretty smart guy in the music business. I am. I know a lot of ship. Sugar Knight probably one of the most smartest guys I've ever spoken to it. He was breaking ship down to me that I did, you know, and how I used it to get more money out of fucking deaf jam. This guy is brilliant. The only thing wrong with Sugar is nigger. He likes being a gangster, like

he likes being the gangster. He likes being shuged. Knight, you understanding everything that embodies that comes with steriousness of that. He likes it because I used to tell him, like niking you so smart, I'm like just just He's like, no, I gott to fuck these niggas. And here I'm gonna tell you why most people getting the beast with Sugar Knight, because I've seen it with my own eyes me and

should be in the club chilling nigga. I ain't gonna say no names, but it's a celebrity musician or whatever. Come up and him. They'll come up to us, me and Sugar and cut just chilling, and I would see, you know how nigga get around gangsters and get uncomfortable soil they start talking ship just to say ship that they don't really mean. But little do you know, I'm over here, like what are you talking about? You know?

But this is deep because you just you just sitting with shell, get next to you know, like, yo, you should manage me. Yeo, we should do this. We should do this song together. Oh yo, I'm on the in this movie. You can do the soundtrack. Do you signed in the verbal fucking contract with the Prince of Darkness? You're thinking you're bullshit and yo, I'm just gonna get out of here. I'm just gonna tell us a thing and whatever so I can get the funk out of here.

You should in the contract, nigga, that's a verbal contract. Cases don't do contract. And you saying you gotta say it again, right so now you leave? You got something like that was a close one. Change. I can't. I ain't making my number changed my number because this is how it goes down like all people shook, and he'd be like watch just think and change is no magati. But but here's the thing. You an entertainment business. You're coming back to l A. She'll don't live in Boise, Idaho.

Nigga in Nebraska. He's in l A and he's and he gets active and he's around and he got snitches all over the place. Yeah that doesn't he gonn be right now where he pulling up and now it's a problem. Now you're getting smacked or it's gonna be some type of physical altercation. You see what I'm saying. When all you have to do is just not s you like you said, Nora, you said, yeah, I'm never seious because no, he's he knows. So he's like nigga, I could be cool. Yeah,

he liked it, my crew. That what you know? What he likes. He likes. He likes look at it like a person's cruel. He'll see the tough guy. He'll know that niggas the nigga. That's the wrapper for that niggas the nigger. And he'll go and be friend to him like he'll he'll he'll pick the leader, like I don't know how he used to do. I'm talking out mad

different crews. I he didn't like Hollywood ship. But believe me, a lot of people I've seen with my own eyes, they get themselves in the ship because they talk to him and say that they don't mean, and then they're just doing it just to get the funk out of his presence, you understand, and giving his numbers and telling this nigger, we're gonna do things. He calling you, nigga, he calling you. Remember one time he was managing Joe to see Mary everybody. Yep. But now we're gonna switch it.

We're gonna switch, switch, switch, We're gonna switch it because one like this pick for Earth. Gotti's right, and one of my favorite Earth got was Ecstasy Earthstas Yo, my niggy, you had more accident puff daddy at one point, Yeah, I was, I was. I was. I was like like me and John was like good. I was to see guys who lives on the level. But Goddy. One day, I think this nigga walking in the studio and I'm like there, John like that, I'm gonna keep it you,

I'm gonna keep it real. I was a late bloom. I'm not in your drugs alcohol. I'll do it, you know what I'm saying. But I'm not into it like that. You know what I'm saying. I'm get your ill story about God this one. Listen. I'm not into it. Okay. So my niggas was doing the ecstasy ship and they started talking about how great the sex is when you fucking a bitch, and it is fucking great, and you know not you can just dog for a bitch all night. So both I had to do this record for funk Master.

Flex X was filming a movie in Canada. I went to Canada. I flew in a loving touch right, so the loving touch? What is that? Loving? Like this? He gets this? Hell gets the pubble on that right, and so fucking U I fly in the love and touch boom. She said, Yo, if you have done extacy, I said, jar heard about it, never did it. She said, let's let's do something and fuck really, women is the most devili state, always getting to do something. Nigg has been telling me for months, bad bit and it was a

bad bitch. Know, go ahead, cocaine with a bad red head. He has evidence that open grand closing though, I'll get you my cocaine start right now, I do I do the extacy. We start, it's just like eleven thirty eleven forty five. We saw fucking. We don't stop sucking. We take a pause at four thirty. Dog, I'm dog sucking the ship out this bitch, right, So four thirty, She's had like fucking five six orgasms. I ain't not fucking once I'm stopping. I'm like, what's going on, what's happening,

what's happening? You know what the bitch say? You know what she said? Let's do it enough and I go, yeah, he take another one weight like a half hour. I fux the bitch. I don't know one time. I the b still ten thirty right, this bitch is laid out. The fucking hotel room looked like a crime scene. He was missing his yellow motherfucking tables, short lines and ship. Right, it's the crime scene. We don't fucked up the whole woomb boom. I call who do I call? My NIKEL,

b J and Rule. They laughing. I'm like, yeah, they they've died in love it like this ship is incredible. They said, yeah, I think you get it good in my in my mind looking from the outside in right, because now a lot of people don't notice. Me and John lived on the same block. Ye, we were both on depth cham right. But this is the crazy ship. After Holla holla, he made some brand and he was mad at the critics. He wasn't mad at X. Yeah, he was mad at the critics. It was like four

o'clock in the morning. I had never told you, don't know he was working with I didn't know, and he just knocked on my door for o'clock in the morning. He's like, y'all. I was like, yeah. He he walked to my crib and he was like, you think I sound like X, And I said it was fucking with him. This is from personal ship. I never I give you the story and I said this. I said, no, actually, y'all, I get why they said, but your voice tones is the same. Listen, he said, do I have to change

my subject matter? He said, I'm gonna funk with the bitches and he just left my crib. I know he was on and I was on, but it was on this very moment. That's my that's my story. I'm gonna give you. It's because because I'm gonna inside, I don't think people focused on so now you know, Ex is starting to go at him. He's telling me, Goddy, he's buying my ship. I'm like, you're wilding out, nigga. Everyone thinks it's how gonna ring his mind. His voice sound

like mine. I can see it. Leo comes to us and he's I don't need another that out of them, So we're going to make the flesh of my Flesh. I did two records on the flesh with my Flesh. One of the records that I did is we we don't give a fuck good that record he's shipping on job, my nigger. I produced the record, gave x T beat and he made a record used to be my dog, You left train, ride and die when the rain, niggas get wet, put up stage. You produced that. He never

knew that, so boom hold hold. So I made this record. I give x T beat, shout shout, no, you're getting let me give you the full fucking Steward. I give him the beat me in the studio, and as soon as we're not hear it, I know he's on the bullshit. He's sitting on rule in that record, rules, my artist and my brother. Here's what I do after he does it. I'm in my truck, Rules in the back seat. I said, Rule, I ain't using the record, and he said, what you're

talking about? I said, you know, I'm not. I'm not. I'm telling them we ain't putting that record on the album. He said, play the record, Gotti, and I said, Rule, you may not want to hear this record. He don't know. I'm giving you the prelude to probably him. Yo, do you think because nigger? So now I played the record and the record is making me. I'm sitting in the truck uncomfortable because I know exactly what the niket X is doing and he's an x X. When I confronted exitbody,

he laughing, stay out of you, Gotti. Let the brothers fight. Sometimes. You gotta let him the two pens. He always was a dog, analogy. You gotta let him. You gotta let him golf. This dad, he's a dog. He thinks he's a dog. Nigga, so he's dog. I can tell you why. I don't you know the dog when you when you grow up with no love from your parents and nothing. He was homeless and he would sleep outside and Boomer

would be the only one there. And he said, he'd be sleeping and he wake up to Boomer back in the nigga up. So he filled he who he felt was booming nigga like Boom. He said, I could beat this ship out of Boomer, and Boomer still won't come back. So when with with X, that's the love I give him. I give X what I call dog love. So I don't care what he's doing or what he's let me get this ship. You're playing in the record. So I'm playing the record and my nigga is hand the whole record.

And y'all heard Rule with It's before. But remember when he was on Hot Night he said, he said, John Niggas want to see Tupac, I'm going imagine that Ran times a hunting right Ah. He won, We're gonna do it. And I'm sitting there like this and he's like, Nigga, we're gonna go. He didn't when he didn't like the Locks at that juncture. I'm gonna give it. If you listen to the Murderer's album, We're different, you know, he nigga, he Rule was he's going. It's just that the songs

that he was going was never singles. It was never glamorized. It was the female friendly Ship was glamorized. But nigga, he's a demon on that mike. But that's when it was at the height of him, like ah and I head. When you look at Rule three three six, you see when he went to you and asked you that. It's so it's so crazy that first album, Yes, he grew his head. We did female records. So after that, I'm like, act this nigger got braids. Nigga, you bollheaded. Is the comparison.

You never make a record like without you, this is not you. Listen, I'm gonna tell you got it. The reason why he came to me was because when we came out Naturally two niggas from Queen's the Automatically compare you the mab tem The Automatically did that. But you

guys definitely definitely knew how to relate to that. What I said, you know what I did, I went and did it in a r E album and I got with some niggas was some tight shirts and chokers from Virginia that nobody said the day was gonna be ship, and I did. That's so I changed it, ru But what I said, that's the reason why it's ecstasy, because the reason why I see ecstasy makes your emotions come out like like whatever you give me, like yo, I love you. One. If you look at those records, we

had a lot of great music on that. See how you're like what said, you're my ow ecstasy money create he definitely create that ship ever got because from the LEXX like three albums and personally personally, I was on ecstasy every day for like three years. Only ship. No, but I'm keeping the real. I'm keeping the real bite the head of the dogs this bit. So you wake up and you know you're feeling groggy. You know what we ushould do? Look at the music they was making

dogs ship, but I just think about it. Look at the music there was baking. You can't say it. That's making so much sense all you can't make that we you know he was high late up real in five minutes. You never have Molly, It's fantastic. Molly's the same. It's no, it's really you know, maybe doing exstacy you have, but those was bad though. Somebody was bad. My nigga. This is the crazy shit. As we take another shot. As we're taking another shot, and I'm there guys, let's go,

let's go, let's go. We've been with the fans, been waiting my videos. I'm the director. Oh I got hyper Dave Miyes. But understand I'm the I'm the label. So it's like Earth, you need five hundred thousand, No, I need six hundred thousands. You always asked for it. I'm gonna give it to you. Understand. It was jod There was no there was no fucking The lights are like right now, my digga. Listen, it's not even who that's awesome. That's listen, man, there's no control. Listen. It was on me,

so my nigga. I would put in video, but just fifty tho dollars from miscellaneous KA says of Christaff one of you gotta have one stock Joe, a pillow bag full of weed and fucking a bag like this full with ecstasy fucking pills. I'm not gonna lie murdered. Eight video shoots. Was the ship you're like going to the club. I was like, whatever, should we having me drugs? Whatever?

If you want coca, y'all in the budget in the bucket, y'all discovered super hair, right, that was y'all, Yeah, you want to superhand was she was an interesting dick sucker, super super hair. Uh so super had was around us, and what really put her over the top was my nigga, Fred dirsh Slimp Biscuit, I'll think bitch around us. And he was like, gotta get that bitch out of here, yo. She robbed me, oh fred Dirk from Biscuit, like she sucked my dick and row me on like some sneaky

whole ship right. And a man said, well, that's not I didn't even I wasn't working with or whatever. She was just working with some dudes in the crew. You know what I'm saying. So I said, bitch. I said, bitch, you thievin. That's bitch. Get the funk out of here, y'all. And she was like God, you know, God, you know fred Dash, she's lies out of you know who's Fred Dirk? She told me this ship, she said, because he says it all the time. He tells the thing. But I

didn't do it. He's just a corny white motherfucker. Any of that she's doing it. I'm like, bitch, listen, I don't care. My man. And we had a relationship with Fred. Get the funk out. This is around the time he was shooting Between Me You video and she wanted in the video so bad. So again, once again the infamous pool party with all the pds on the boat. Now we're going in. No, no, no, that's the bungalow. That's part you. I read in every bungalow and heard these

stories and listen not listening. So so now I'm telling that she can't be in the video. She showed up at the video like, bitch, what the fund is you doing here? Didn't I tell you get the funk out of here. I'm like, no one's working with you. You were thievin bitch. She's like, God, what I gotta do? What I gotta do? Right? So I, honestly, I swear to God, I just said the most outrageous ship to think and she would just be like, you disrespectful nigga,

Get the funk out. I said, you have this up every nigga murderings, dick nigger if you want to stay around this small fucking movement, bitch. It wasn't. It didn't. It wasn't a long thought process. It was it was so where do you want me to go to? Starting to which I replied, fucking going that trailer still thinking she's gonna flip. She walked in the trailer and they just lined up now now and then after that, she was basically like a murdering droopy. Like we was like

rock stars during the height. I ain't gonna lie. No one didn't really like us because we was just so crazy, eat with it, and we used to rint mansions and have nothing bloods Crips essays. If you ask anybody in l A during that time, they would be like, Yo, murder with the murder mansions. Niggas eggs had a mansion. These niggas close at two o'clock. Nigga rules so free with it, yo, nigga two thirty, he's giving everyone in the cold. I'm like, I'm walking in the niggas in

the crib and then you were the sound system. They're brilliant. I'm like, what the fuck? And that It was like that for three months. It was like that for three months, but l A we got so much l A love behind that l A niggas. I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna tell you some real ship about you, Dottie. People see you like the executives and they fall in love like you always gonna get a check. Is that a

skill or is that just something that comes now? I just think that I'm because I had to ask my money blessed with one brain You're talking, was like, oh my god, that was Eric I was, and you looking at like and you know, I don't. I'm come want to see how they fail. It's like, wow, you know mac, God blesses me with these visions. You know what, I get a lot of my visions, I swear to God. That's why I give it to God. In my sleep.

I cannot tell you how many times I go to bed and I'll be sleeping and He'll give me the most vividous dream of what to do. And I wake up and be like, this is what I'm doing. This ship has happened like so many times. That's why I'm like, yo, I'm unconscious. It's not even me sitting here thinking. There's been times with me thinking I can think of some ship too. Don't get it sucked up. But it's a lot of times I'm sleeping and NYT He'll bless me

like tells I was just about to golden. Let's get focused. Tell you come up with that I did tell me from the crib, but I had a dream tells from the Crib, That's all it is. Reason I don't know was he removed, you know, from you removed the crypt keeper. Okay, play hip hop song there was a man, a man and there was a woman. He was he would tell you and tip you off with you about to see.

I'm just playing the song you don't know, Tales from the Crypt, Yeah, exactly, like not Tells from the Hood, which was in that apation the original HBO show, which was a horror show. So did you receive slack because I don't know if you know, you did fun the police right, and it was it was the reverse. It

was the reverse. And like when I saw that, I was like, like that it felt scary to even like think of it like that because I'm just not used to like I did that just bring it down for the people who didn't the police, I did a version of the That was the way sun the police, who I did race reversal. So everything that happens to the black people with minorities, I had, it happened to white people. Not the only reason. Let me let me go out there saying and the white people were like the Niggers.

The white did he in the Yeah, this was they was in the hood. They got the injustices, they got there. I can't breathe and put a pretty white boy to get killed. This is ship like that for fucking with a black chick, which is the reverse of Nigga's sucking white chicks. And then the white chick goes, he raped me, lies on them. I hadn't said it hadn't be done to him, but I did it straight up. I did it just for white people to see how funked up

it is. And then, you know what, for a moment like remember when all of this ship was going on just now and you had like you get Michael Rappaport and he's speaking out. You had Lady Gaga like, Yo, what can I do to help? You? Know what I'm saying,

That's what I made that episode for. Now, whether or not it had the effect like that, that's what I made it for because to have a true change, it just can't be black people with minorities and Spanish people and everything like that with the uprising, it's gotta be white people that saying yo, this is fucked up. Yeah, Yeah, that's how we want. That's how it's gotta be more white people. It's gotta be that way. It's because when white people go, Yo, this is fucked up and we

got to stop. And when I seen glimpses of it, it made me smile like yo. And I honestly think, like the racist people in the world, I think hip hop has changed the world. And I think the racist people the world is a very older generation and once they die. But you know that isn't it crazy? I think that's giving them Like the valley is lately, the rally lately, the white people rallies lately, there's been a

lot of young boys there. No, it has, it's been a lot of young studn't think that that's an old racist see. And I called backlash for this, listen because and I don't like talking political anymore. After I called backlash, we got but listen, I got backlash because I said the young white boy, I said, they may be mad because we're sucking all late chicks. You know, white chicks fucking with niggas is at an all time high. It's

at an all time high. And I think they could be piste off because you know, most commonly heard answer from a white chick who fox would with a black dude like yo, and I'll be I'll be asking, like, you don't fok with white dudes? No one? And they'd be like nah, And I'd be like, why they like they're not cool? Most commonly answered from a white chick on why she doesn't funk with white boys no more? After she fox with a black guy, they're not cool.

So it ain't gonna be too much of that before the youngest those young boys like, man, you're sucking my bitch like that's that that that's enough for the hatred. And look not not even another white boy like me. She won't even sucking a white boy like me. She's strictly on nigga. Did you know what I'm saying? So? And when I see the young generation, I'll be like their sister or they grow this fucking with fucking rock came a law the hook. You know what I'm saying,

I want you to leave. Rock came my law. He's so gentle. Did you ever see did you ever feel a certain way where where it felt like they were trying to push the black CEO out? Did you like because us being an artist? You know, like you know at the end of the day, you know, I'm just being stepping up as a CEO role. I've always been a couple leader of my own company. I always had that. Boy, I'm really stepping out, you know, you as part of

the the whole arising and you. But trying to make my point because it was like I felt good working with Dame. Like even though me and Dame we argue toil, we argue too, but just like, but who does I love like working with when Dame and Jay and then you guys with y'all floor on death damn, and then that was my building. Like although one seventy bags was the best back always you know, dyslexic, But but that was when like music was itll was when the black CEOs was at like it was just never be like

that again. You don't take your dad was about to ask let me let me pick that moment in time. Do you realize how many he was getting it. I think I was getting like two thirty million years. It's a moment of silence for this yo. Yo. We had to be give the budgets. I don't get marketing check, so I was Mr Marketing. Listen, this one was fucking crazy like these niggas again, do you think is against all hip man Like I'm looking at getting us. Streaming

killed him, this stream this streaming killed it. It's a streatment. Was just just the new technology, y'all. And they couldn't listen to me and with Doug marsh right, it's crazy. It may sound like make some noise. Doug Morris explain. Doug Morris was like the controller controller of Universal, the Universal Music Group. So he was the head boss, the boss of all bosses. He was the who were pointed over Jimmy, over Jimmy. He was Jimmy's boss, you know what I'm saying. So this guy, I used to meet

with him every week. We used to have lunch and talk to thing, and I clearly like he was like when the c D was invented, the c D, he was like, that's what this is. I'm explaining why he was getting all this money when the CD was invented. He said money was raining from the sky. So he said because not only he said Earth, not only are they buying these new albums that they have to get, but he says they need Michael Jackson's driller they needed

in this new format. So he said, the catalog ship, like Michael Jackson Driller was doing like me thousand a week. The Bastie Boys License to Ill was doing ten to fifteen dollars in a week forever. So they basically was going gold every year. They were selling five hundred thousand copies every year. My nigga, and I was like, when I used to look at the Best Boys Ship, the people say, yo, when you go to college, you have to have a License to Ill album. They said, that's

why it sells so much. But the money was flowing so much. That's why that was giving niggas five million dollar advances like it was fucking nothing. Like it was nothing. They'd take five Yeah, you could have fifty fifty joint ventures. You could own your masters. You were on half of them, and then if you want the other fifty will buy it back. I'm feeling a certain way. Yeah, wherever am I, Dude, I'm just saying, like, like niggas getting money now, I

know it. Like I'm not knocking y'all, I'm not knocking whatever. Yeah, this is different. First time must I see Mustard in that? I said, damn, And this is I see him at the point where every regular mustard and is that? So I was high five and the nigga because I know what that feels like, you know what I'm saying, Like, Nigga, I was on the radio. I had the top ten on the Hot one hundred, I had one for six seven Like I'm like, Nigga, I'm just just crazy, right,

so fucking I know what it is. So I was like, Yo, nigger, I was curious because I should get a quarter million for one B twoty thousand two Charles me sixty thousand. That's love. But he too, Kiggy, because that's love. So listen, I said, Joe. I said, just curious how much you getting a track? Because you know I used to get a quarter. You ain't you didn't leave it, you didn't tell charged. And then yeah, I get like a quarter too. Then I clarified, and this is no knock on mustard,

and actually I gave him a thing. Well, I'm gonna give the yall which may fun the game, up the game, he said. I said, I just clarify. I said, I'm talking about two fifty tho he's talking about So I was like, nah, Nigga, I was getting to fifty he was word right. So I said, yo, nigga, you're making all his careers just that mustard on the beat with your magic. You you gotta charge more. And he was like, it's not in the budget. He says, yo, I, this is like the max that I can't get. Right. He says,

it's not in the budget. I said, man, you need to think of something like you should need to tell these niggas you're getting the show money you get they show money til you get a hundred thousand, so you can give me that twenty five and an other seventy five. You're gonna shoot me twenty over your show money until I get my nigga. Let's sign that deal and you

can get that mustard on the beat track. So I'm saying it's different ways, and that's why I'm like, don't let me get hot because I'm gonna imp meant that you want my beat, nig I want a quarter, give me ten thousand now, but I want another to forty nigga when he when you on show, because you know,

you give a nigga hot beat, that's it. Whoever made Cardi b Ship, dude, they're getting they published it and it's that's gonna be good money and everything like that, but goddamn, nigga, Cardi gonna make like two three million. I'm quite sure Cardi charging fifty or better for her asking hero. This is when I got shock and I went to rue, like, nigga, do you know what niggas is getting? So what's the host suspensive? You ever charged

for a beat? A quarter? The quarter he never went never Daz said, let me, I should have got crazier with dn't get should have got crazy with Jayla funny. I ain't got a quarter I got, should have got three, but we gotta half. We gotta half a meal because rude got a quarter. Two. It's quarters giving. Y'all mentioned the publishing No, that's just mentioned. That's ever. Give me me right. What I should have did when I left some money on the motherfucking table is when after I did.

I'm real that she was number one for like eighteen or twenty weeks. That's Jennifer Lopez. Jennifer Lopez. I'm really when he came for any funny, I should have said, nigga, we need a ticket, nigga. A ticket is a million for I'm like when your chicken, nigga, get it up, nigga. You know how I learned this ship from and again quite just honestly, Jay z Okay, Uh God damn day John Crazy. It was for the Blue Street soundtrack, remember, and I was with j and I was within holes.

He charged him. Nigga's like seven fifty and this was not the time, he said, And he was like, yo, Nigga, seven fifty and I'm when he said, and I ain't budgeting nigga, and on the phone note and looked at me said to which I call that a heat check. When you're fucking hot. You could have heat check on nigga's joll when you're scorching hot. Nigga, I coming to a nigger office, Nigga, I got Crime Partner sound track a million nows a ticket because it was heat checked

like a motherfucker. You know. I went in the Leo's office, said, Nigga, you give him pretty a million nigga for this fucking sound. She's just god you want this is a stick up. You're sticking me up right now. This is the rassing. Get nigga, nig or whatever I said, get you looking bad on you, Like when Leo came out of the ud Max riding with Day. He kept a poker face because Leo, he's the son of a bit. He wants

to give niggas nothing. It's his job to give the illest nigga is nothing in the world which is fucked up, right, but something at the end. But then he's gonna thinks you want to be with me, big boy, I'll make you fucking hat right. So he comes out, Leo talking ship. Yeah, tell ship, it's the best ship. So Leto turns out the whole time this is Leo. Niggas is throwing it. I don't want a storm, like a walker Stone, like

fool in Gerald underground Street something New York. I'm like, I'm looking at that limp because this is my first I'm like right, He's like, yo, stole fished. As soon as I'm like, funking man, he ain't feeling his ship. He gotta feeling ship. Leo hip hop. He white, but he had hip hop to the court, so boom he comes outside and once he got away from d and y R he came and it was like, we have God, we have to wait a ship ship. Dave was in

the fucking car. It was me cath Leo and Damon Leo's green suburban that had an immaculate sound the system right, and Dan was fucking hating. I'm looking at Damn like he's like, y'all like that. Niggas don't want to hear that. Niggas wanna be like Jane This niggas depressing. This niggas depressive. You like this nigga was doing. I'm not Damn, you didn't have the fucking carn car. This is my ship. Nigga, Come behind me, nigga, you really like that? And then

I had to bust Dame open. I'm like, look, nigga, look ahead in hollow. Who was more of Nigga's life, shame or ex This only a damn full of niggas that's selling the honey. Kilos Nigga. Sorry, Jake harnted kilos, Nigga. This man niggas like X that wants to rob them niggas who's selling the honey like niggat and got ram bunches. And then I said, Nigga, axs gonna have the streets, Nigga. He looked at me and got quiet, and I was like, Nigga,

what is you doing? Y'all? You could have stayed the fuck. Oh, I say't getting the car, nigga, You get the niggain this niggas talking about pick up the lettre and you. But Leo, Leo up to this can listen to his credit, he wasn't listening to that nigga. He Leo, to his credit, He's seen X early and Leo's Leo's chest and not check his nigga anyone. He's a mind game. Like I'm gonna tell you. He my opinion. He may disagree, but

he played Rockefeller murder ring rough riders. He played us like a fiddle because he used to come and he'll give me love. That will ignite X and J. He gets, Oh, you're fucking with them, Leo, we're going in the studio. If you look at that time frame, nigga, we was dropping bombs, not regular albums. On my ship was worldwide, five to eight million nigga every year, competing with each other. And you know Leo is doing he was playing chess. Nigger. Leo is a vicious, vicious If you don't know, he

a vicious motherfucker. He's brilliant and he's a Jesus, but he is a calculating, vicious vicious man. So last night I walk in front and I see you're just chilling right now, you see more relaxed in your life. Oh no, oh no, no, you're right. You see like it was dope because, like you see before, I interview people because like I'm I'm people's peers, so I like to like, like what we do is you can beat us here today,

I guard I'm tell him what we usually do. We usually have a whole playlist, so we listened to everybody's catalog. But you came fifteen minutes early. See, I'm used to people. We used to fifteen minutes late. Come on this already said he shot shot. Let's go let this nigger shot. Then we're seeing the fucking shots. That's just like, yes, I just shot a video. Now you can blow it up right because you course, man, we are guys stayed down. What's the name of the record. What's the name of

the record of this record? It's called trap a COMBANDA like trap a cabana. Holy at, I did hips don't lie the motion that everything was starting. Cut a cocoa, cut to a cocoa, right, saying, but what happened if we take the south some but it. It gets the track and put it together. So after I did the record, I was like, you know I need that Nori you know me, what would be the new Tago live? You know, I mean naos So that's gonna be the new way

the band. That's why, that's why white he and you know, in order to come up with some ship like that, you gotta be smoking relationship. The ship must be more potent. Do you remember with murdered ankle was a oh you remember that height. The niggas was charging a lot. I was a friend and they charged it was love sixty. I was in the quarter, nigga. An it's kind of like that, you little bit. I think, let nigga, I think you'll listen even for a shanty beach beach looking beach.

He got me. I gotta get b J Tim Bad always getting that. Niggas knew my budget. Oh yeah, that's right. You put the level. That was first. That was first. I'm gonna relax. I'm gonna relax. No what y'all was doing it? Relax? Yeah, even kinda got I was doing it. Do you remember the food Ji's run, Come on, nigga, they sold what twenty something million nigga. I'm gonna tell you,

I always want to listen. Listen, listen, listen, listen, but listen listen from I always wanted that diamond and we got to like seven eight, you know, hold with hard in my life, he got to like eight probably at nine. Now. I was always jealous of y'all motherfucker's man because the diamond was like m motherfucking mc hammer, So like two, I love Hammer. I know niggas behaving Hamma Vanilla listen

with Hamma Hammn Vanilla. Ice was probably the first hip hop album that a lot of white people bought and then they wanted to see what really was going on. So for that nigga they brought, they helped hip hop, They helped the culture. But you mother, I used to be like, yeah, these digs is selling so many. What did what did the score sell? Like twenty something million? Yeah, I guess four nine. Y d realize what that is. That's fucking KOs an Like for me, who've done big things.

I always wanted that diamond because that's a one album. Said, always wanted that job. We started going platinum, trust me, we was chasing paying his love. I said we could get the diamond. We have fucking real, we have fucking always are fucking time. We have fucking uh done, dude, Stevie Ship. I thought it was a perfect fucking blend of hip hop and ship that could play top forty in all the fucking rhythm IRB and I said, we're

gonna again. It were again world while we topped out in like seven and a half eight, we couldn't never get that fucking done. But collectively, how much murder like thirty five, it's probably a forty now, yeah, but this nig is we're bigger numbers. It's a decent number coming home. Listen.

But the nicker did what I did, oh one fucking joint and that's why I like, so I had to give it up, like nigger Twitter four million, shake this out right, so listen, right, So you know when you're a producer, right, you're like, okay, now I want to become a producer executive right. So that was my next

mission right after like producing, that was my shop. Fight me to a showcase and they're like, yo, they got the woide murder haining wah serious, but check the I remember you and that's why I tell you do I've been an audience. Yeah, I'm like, I have to make the next food with this guys doing that. He was introducing the new Ashantia in the minute you came out kin from had and you had that smell on your face when she will perform and I'm looking at you

and you got that. He was in love from the beginning. I wasn't gonna good transibern't want to hold you want to you want to bring my transition. He gotta transd We we are transitional people here, you're sitting there transition. I'm gonna be honest though, and I don't like and I don't like talking down on and even though I'm not tolding that I'm speaking the truth because I Shanty never talks about it, so I don't like talking about it. But what I will say, the thing is is is

what me and her hat. It was nothing that I never experienced before because I was getting money with a like that first album using your feelings a little bit? Was there my feelings like it was? It wasn't clear the record when I was She did a record for me and I didn't clear it. Yeah, and you know what record? I didn't clear it. I don't think so broad. I'm sorry you told me. L said, why why l A Read was there? I didn't clear it? Yeah, then

it wasn't me money. He has a good game because you were there, got a check my name, didn't It wasn't because they didn't know l a Read regime's also I got. I got to clear my name. Nigger. At that time, they was running their own ship. Yeah, you're pretty when l A Read was a death check. What album was she on? It wasn't one, two or three. Listen. By the time we got to the third album, she

was running the ship. It was like yo, because you know, it was like the Nellie time, and they were like, you know, you don't know, and never could he could have ship dog. He could have told it ain't now. It could have said, YO said it was because listen, listen, listen, listen. I never lied. I never lied. If it was the first two albums and it was vitold it was me

because I made a mistake. And her first two albums listen her first Weekday Fabulous record with Tamiya, the original records with a Shanty and I made a mistake and it was at the time she was on a lot of ship and I v told my man ship and I said, she can't do the video. He got to me on it and that record is a huge record. Still he was played to this day. I liked the question, lawyer, yeah, and give up fund the Ashanti space. I was telling

that on me. You was the Ashanti. I said, the look in your eyes and then he bought it somewhere where I was gonna was going right where I was gonna bring it too was. I knew that I had to figure out my next move. After Fuji and after so we got more watching the parts. You said you're gonna smoke. I don't think he will be going to hold up if the Carmes focus. No one ever seen et. Oh God, guy Rule says when I go off is better. Yeah, I'll never eating every move. I've seen him to take

a lot of ecstacy. This is never seen. Let cle finishing stuck. I just I had to wait for the perfect moment. He says it on the boat he was. It was that moment. I don't lie, y'all, good club, I'm not a lie. I'm so sorry. I just you know, as a verse of him, I love the smoke with niggas. Don't smoke but I just had to work for the perfect moment, and it was I clearly seemed to Alley said, ham me, motherfucking ain't no nigger video, big handhole smoking

was laughing like a motherfucker. He was just kept telling got you. And Jay was like fucking Chris Tucker and Friday like cooky to see who was mad. It was a hard But I don't thinking smoke me like that because the thing was like I got you, because Jay smoke. He kept telling that I got you. This day was like poky, he was mad. Yeah, like what the fund?

You gotta be smoke. You gonna think his lasted all that ship y'all fishy show as I want to hear what the funk he's said with me, I'm gonna regurgitate and some ship. That's a big word. Let's let's make some regurg Definitely gonna do what that mean? Oh yeah, everybody, because this is this gotta be ill Let's lawyer. So what I was saying was when I came in there and I saw what you did, it made me know that past the Fouji's now I had to become not

just a producer, but in exact reproduced talent. And that was part of how City High was ce you went after what you did for me, I just show gangsters and can I just say for the record, City High if y'all don't know it had a superstar in that group. Claudette was a fucking superstar so much. I had on a record with Jack, but she was I think she was first with one of the guys and then she was with the other guy. It's like, it's just sad. This is like she has babies by this guy. Yeah,

but she babies like with the City Highway, not white clown. Wait, what about gett drunk facts? What are we talking about? Exactly? Talking about City Hide And she has kids by one of the guys in the city. I believe she was with one and then she got with the man she was on the record with us. I thought she was like the hottest, sexiest. She could sing. You knew you had one? Yeah, but you inspired that. I'm just saying, you know, positive side this man, positive side, he said, Yeah, inspider,

there's no resentation happening right now. I'm still to this day, I talked about her think because she did a let's get this started with rule and she was dope and she was like a man cool chick. And I was like, so all the females out here, this is a message to the females. If you're on the road to success, you relax. Relax, you can have children whenever you want. Let's let's get the money. Let's get that superstar children. Yeah wait, man like she was. She was supposed to

be like up dead niggah. She's she was like on the and then she was on the cover of Smooth or what and niggas was drooling like this she was and she was authentically. She came to the studio after she had the kids and I was like wow, like she was a wow superstar. Artists that disappeared after having a hit record with this guy were sucking having the city. I like, yeah, that's what he said. He was inspired

by her. She two hens. When you didn't get your executive on, you're supposed to go in there, said and they can put your dick in your motherfucking pains. You're fucking up the business, Nick, but your man tried to do that. We need to tie you, like you know you had this nig like, I'm secured to win. I love forever, like nigga is like that, I'll be one, Like when I'm around, I wanted a shot to you to be the biggest bitch ever. You know what I'm saying, I'll be one, yo, go be the biggest. I want

to see it even if you don't stay. And that's just weak. Dig Listen, that's just you get expect. You won't get fucking Angelina Brad you that happens this man. You know the chicks is groupies say, ma theay the hottest chicken on the planet. Here comes mother fucking Derek Jeta or something nigging like it happens so good cure in your own gang stuff. God, bitch you're saying like, like real, ch I'm just for a second, right, I was gonna be there. I had to give you my

salute that I definitely wanted you to know that. You know what I mean, boy interpretation, that's not me, nigger. I don't need fucking gonna like this like I don't love I love you too. I'm gonna go with the crowd. Tried to come. I was talking about the other guy. You know, I'm fuking with you. Yeah, And if anyone can sell another twenty million albums. I would put my money on you. Yeah, we just do what generation. Get

with that streaming though, right, get with that streaming. That streaming is just like where the kids are moving to. So we as the older folks, make sure we keep up with that culture. Yo. But make this is this is what rising one that week. Yo. Let me tell yourself. That's when I knew Murder Inc. Was the wireless crew on the planet. Like, let me tell yourself one day, I'm not gonna say names like you kept saying that. I think it's no more it is. We're on the

road and then it damn. I could do it without saying names. Don't say names. I could do I don't know. So niggas is kicking, you know, maby on the road. He was like, Yo, we did it one time and let's say, yeah, did what we do to eat in the blood. But look these niggas wasn't proud of it. This is why, this is why I can't say any that's like a dirt. Yeah, they said, I said, working because I ain't thinking thinking everything to do it. I just never I was smoking thinking said yeah, we figured

we was old. It was already smoking the dirt. Don't this is my niggas, let's try relationships because my nigga's pleasant. I was already when it was over the weed. He's thinking together, was like, that's why the nigga this is like personally, was like they look but they looked at me and said, oh we all felt guilty. Yeah, away this smell and I think it's was like, oh the guilty. But let me tell you something. Oh my god murdered in days. You guys brought fun back to hip hop?

You guys? Yeah yeah, holding down. You guys brought fun back to hip hop? How did that fail? They don't want your own whole blunt right? Yeah? Yeah, I think he's ready to smoke whatever you give him, right Dad, this is like fucking you know they're fucking So we was driving a blast and what was so good is man, we was We was with the people, you know what I'm saying. So just just just when when the backlash happened, it did it hurt me because I'm a people person.

You see how coming here are your fans knew that let me tell you something your fans requested. You'll be on him like you just want to like keep my phone immediately you gotta because so I keep it real. I keep it real. But but it's not only that, it's that you're CEO, that CEO type of style, like don't you got some new artists too? Right? And let's ceo. Let me let me tell you, let me tell you it hurt because man murdering. We gave so much love to the people. When you look at I cry. We

was in Cherry Hill and bollamore you. We was going to the fucking hood l a nigga. We had swapped meets, we had motherfucking we didn't think. We didn't hud gang bangs, everything like that, just giving love and thing. You just want some cool ship and I don't know tough ship or anything like that, just some cool ship. Niked. It's just that we we we didn't really have no fear. But I'm a person, I don't really I'm fear. So we we go to the hoods. We touched the town.

We used to touch the town. You know what I'm saying, funk with the hood rats and Nige like you come on soon, let show you something. So what happened? So what happened when when these guys were bought to side nives what was What was that? And that was in the midst of the turmoil too, because what was that he was missing the turmoil with him and j Too. That was before after Super Ugly. I forget, it was after Okay, you ain't got a smoke, Like if we relaxed, Yo, Yo, relaxed.

You know what you're saying that I want to show up. It's in a big shout out of telling my nigga be y'all. Remember it makes me think it's spake g You know what spake? Spake for the price is a wrapped the legend from the fucking south Side. Think it was Grandmaster vickis feng Gee. It used to be like, Yo, Yo, just relax, word Yo, just bring him a lot. Nig gonna bring spake and nick nigga. Yeah, niggers will go insane. Think I love, Yeah, I love No one does little

Too like nigga. We're not doing your pre team movie or the nigga I want to go, dude, nigga, na spec Spake was like the biggest MC nigga I'm holding than you don't. Yeah, before we forget, we gotta shout out big teacher about food. Yeah, we gotta start teach. You finished the whole. You like the whole on not some neck, you know what I mean? You know you don't know what pop Daddy, pop Daddy came here? What the Jeffrey? My brother, you got that Jeffrey. We're never

doing that again. Hey, Hey, you know what Jaman the free win in. Hey, we just got Puff is serious? My brother. I love Puff? He could do drugs. Whoaf just I'm sorry people drum drunk. I'm sorry, but oh yeah, I don't don't hear that. Hit me with the Jeffrey one time. I was nig Jeffy. That Jeffer ship is real. That Jeffrey ship is real. So it's already out there. I don't nigga. I smoked with Puff. I was like, it's a smoke. Me and my bitch. We're seeing things, Nigga,

we're seeing things. Nigga's a word more. You keep seeing hit us with Jeffrey. That's all good, buff What you can hit me with the Jeffrey, it's all good. Budding wet he finished the nas thing you saying, because that was an interesting a right, let me just tell you something. It was an interesting period in that in that time moment because I remember, let's just shot glass. Okay, you already your experience. Remind me to go back to nip. Please don't let me drink that. Let you hand it on.

Keep keep asking a watch that. Watch that out somebody for the rec I love NAS and I love I love Jungle even more. You know that's my brother John was. Everyone loves John if you know you know Juggle, How could you not love Juggle? So damn, my boss, you ain't saying that. Come on, you niggas, got what's the NAS question? There? We got this because it was an

interesting time. Because I don't like that time. Why I should have never funked with nots not because he's he is in my brother, because Jay, I've known j what people don't realize. I'm gonna be man, But people don't realize I've known Jason's seven. I went to London with him and Jazz when I was seventeen years old. It's two thousand and seventeen. Me and jay z is thirty years and fuck the music, fuck the money like I love Jay, that's my brother. I made super ugly NAS

dropped ether everyone was ether it out. You know. Rockefeller Rockefeller murder rink was right next to each other. JA was in my office a lot. But what if let's just say it, like, what was that should called? Hypothetically speaking, Okay, let's let's go into high school. Let's go into hypothetical world. Hypothetically NAS would have went full through wood it it would have been Was it closed? Because the the news was would have been immortal? Because how like like, how

could there have been more? It wasn't gonna happened? Was it close to happen? Let me tell you why I wasn't. Yes, fucking nigga. You didn't hear that nigga in the plane? He said, first it was me, Now it was nigger. It's murder nigga, he said that, not me. I'm not a fucking ventrilo quis. If I was, I would have been spitting more. But I understand. Just think about it for one second. The reason why I zoned and my ambition took over me when he shouldn't have, because I

should have thought of my brother Jay. So for the record, I'm a fool for doing this. This is one of the biggest regrets of my life. Recause of that moment is my brother I made super ugly nigga. I was in the studio and I said, Jay, say my name nigga, because that nigga said my name in Etha. Let him know where it's gonna come for if he comes, nigger. But then how did that energy shift? Steve stout, Steve stops behind a lot of ships. Good word devil. Now,

let us stop, I said, let us y'all, let me stop. Hey, hey, don that it. But Steve. Steve is like one of my best friends. We talked all the time. But he's a puppet master and he puppet mastered that because he called me and he said, Joe Nas wants to funk with you thinking about coming to murder ring what you're thinking about. That's what I'm saying hypothetical because we never him like if he would have fully done with like it would have been, it would have been. It would

have been huge. And let me explain exactly why, because Nas embodies what j'all rule did not embody, so it would have been balanced. Let me explain, j'all rule was the he's makes the female the big records and everything like that. So we didn't have the foundation with niggers.

That's what made the opposition to come in and and fucking damnag just because we had no foundation with niggas from the street, because we was every little thing that we do, not saying, hold my whole career on the street, it's not really that good say that. No, listen, listen saying that you show in the early nigger out is not one still here, bros, you're still here. What I'm

say that foundation is the foundation is real. So what I'm saying is with the combination, speaking hypothetically, what made my emotions flow because nas embodied the exact opposite of what ruling body niggas in the streets worship. That nigga. Oh and he gonna say it's murder right, and we're gonna combine that tool that my friend is the best of both worlds. So now it would have been an onslaught.

It would have been an onslaught of records, both of the street because if you listen to rules records, we got street records. He's just that niggas didn't embrace those because they wasn't the singles. I went with fucking the big records, du dual Stevie, I'm thinking top forty, that's all. You know what I'm saying, I'm thinking multip format. I'm like just gonna play urban, it's gonna play rhythm, and it's gonna play top forty. Who produces number one records.

Niggas usaid, fucking come to me and say, Gotti, Gotti my record number three. I said yeah, And they're going to R and B charts and then get the funk away from me. Nigga, I don't even look at those charts. I might be honest, I don't live those. I haven't seen the army and the pump charts. Fucking ages, nigga, let's pull up the hot one hundred. You see fucking twenty damn it ten records, that's where I play. That's where that money is at. Nigga. We're gonna get that money. Nigga.

We're gonna get that money because you know when you're playing that and it teaches you the audience. So it'll be like this this week, your record got a hundred million in audience. So it's the game. It's a number game. It's a hundred million. Niggas hurt my ship. It's more chances, and I'm gonna sell more than you, motherfucker. I'm talking too much, be drinking. You gotta be my nigga, my

nigga script advisor. You don't see Richard Pryor because his nigg you know, I got me drunk and high, so fuckinger came here to do it just to bless it. But listen, you don't see Richard Pryor when the on showtime it's it's called thing he had like well anyway, he had like an NBC show that was like Dave Chappelle, which I'll watch because I said, damn, everything is Dave the Chappelle shows, like the rich Your Prize show. He walked away from it because it was what was called no,

that wasn't the thing sketch. I didn't want him to do it, and he had and he had a niggad that was his nigga script supervisor. So they said when they would go through jokes, he would looking at his nigga script supervisor, and his nigga script supervisor would go and give it. So it's like I wrout my mouth if everyone knows I'll say some ship that's truthful, but that I shouldn't have said. So VJ is like my

nigga is script advising. So when I'm talking looking at him, and he would just be like, first off, let's bring b J over. Came b J come over for the record. Bj BJ is like BJ got forest and let me tell you something. Everything that ever happened in big moment and something this nigga been man ship. Let me tell you something. When it comes to Queen's and it comes to South Jamaica. I used to see this thinking it used to be a Turkey Burger spot and this is

dangerous to go there. The Muslim wait wait, wait, the musther spot. Steaking tape, steaking tape, Linden. It was. It was like it was the all version of Willie Burgers that in my mind maybe steak tape. Maybe I'm nigga. We was just sneaking. Take a day, nigga uptown style, motherfucker, chop that ship up, nigger being there. We were being there every day, heavy, heavy that ship up. And that was like that was like something you talk about steaking tape.

That was like supreme tea, Like that was the spot. It was great food, but it's a great food, but yeah it was. You can get shot the great food, but that's what you're talking about. It like it was like its window when you went there, like, hey, if you're there, everyone seeing listen, come on you wanta come on beating shade. Come on, my nigger, my biggest stream. He came over for the week. It wasn't for we nigga what money, she said, They came for the base.

They came for the money. He's sunny, came for the base. This is literally say something. This is my fans. Got it, everyone, I'm fucked this beautiful. That's January. I'm literally really fun already fucked up. This is why I love. This is why I love drink chants, because you know what it is smart artists, artist smart, let me get it. He's fucked up. And then he because you're a real little Judis guy. Know god, you know who else you spot that guy Cray who does the karaoke ship because he

remember you had a chair up. No, listen, this is this is my he he had niggas in there that say carry over. Then he said, yo, who's that? Was that just such a such a texture? Yeah, and they never would have didnt that on the couch. Let's since they like singing songs, they'll say some detrimental. Ship said, yo, he's like niggas like forties and months, right, so they just foughties and buns and it wasn't gonna happen. Yeah, I doggy stop, nigga, Doggy stop talking like, no man

gonna say, will Barry hold that your own? Will Barry stop yellow, I'll just put your niggas on well, batter your things to check. He would never get that it does. I was sucked up. But you know what, I'm realizing the dream champs good that always liked the CEO saying, the CEOs go in the most like you like, I can just tell this is this, this kind of little is going to the roof, right, I'm just saying, what think about it? It's always he says, here is a smoke.

You don't smoke. You don't smoke, br B, you smoke you So listen, what's the best error in hip hopes without films? We're using money talking about it. You know what, I can't really I can't really say we was getting the most money. I'm saying because I think you remind the money. I think money take away the signs for the coach and we're not. We're not ding. You're not not gonna be What do you want to base it on them maybe yeah, period. Yeah, it doesn't have to

be within the decade. They could be eighty five to ninety five run. It could be a run when the nas I won't drop him many four, I believe. No, come on you yeah, come on, get your Google. But it's ninety four four, ninety four, two thousand four vote. We're gonna put the nice changed it? Yeah, yeah, not changed it straight out the fucking dungeons rat get his dad album to this day, you put it in, it's like the ship, but you're gonna take away from the

confident ship. No, I'm not changed. I'm just saying that was that. I'm gonna take credit for being in my hood. I was the first thing to play fucking n Way and put Nicks on it, that ship, And I thought them nigs divorced niggers. They're like Goddy, what you're playing. I'm like nigga wa. These niggas the thing that was monumental.

Then you add to that. Yeah, but they came like behind I believe, all right, So I would I would give them an honorable mentioned include them because they changed it, right, they changed it, but not what mean you would think. But nasmen that especially queens nigger. Yeah, no, I know what you mean. Like, but that's what I'm saying. Decade like we give it a decade, goes on, Yeah, it goes on in a decade, like I got favorite runs like I got I got like as a fan, I

love the Death Row. Ever death Row is loved as a fan. Now you three four and ain't three? I think as well as a fan. I love the murder, I love I love the man. I love that. What about useless google the same eighties? Well that's a that's what we're talking about. To me, all right, to me, you let me tell you, to me and you hit the let me tell you, let me tell you how you know. Well, I'm forty years old right now. Let me not act like I'm on what he's seven forty?

Sell you out there. When I first heard straight out of my girl respect, I don't know if I don't know if it's the right thing in the wrong thing, but it feels just go hey man, going by hey man, what would you say saying I forgot man? He's talking about the era. The era like sometimes when a young dude says, yo, you know, they don't look up to this to the It's just like I never really fight. I've never seen Ali fight live. Mamma wanted to set Muhammad Ali, but you respect, I expect him my winning.

I wanted to watch the boy. Do you expect it because people were telling you yet we see like I've seen it, but some people you respected, the ogs were handing down saying this was the guy. That's what I think. That happened in hip hop as well. Just but at the end of the record, that's what I say. So I believe Mohammed He's probably the greatest all the time. But if I think Floyd Mayweather, I say Floyda is the greatest all the time. It's because I seek every

single fight of Floyd's. I watched Mohammed I least ship on repeat. But I don't think that's the only reason. Bro. No, I'm just saying. That's what I'm saying. I Floyd ain't fucking I leave. You don't even normal because I leave is the goat. No, I got what you're saying that. But the point I'm trying to make it what everything that that man did and what he embodied that maga is the goat. How to make it is these new kids. They'll say, fucking else said soldier boy is the greatest

all the time? Or they'll say you know what I mean, Uh, who's who's like as at Rocky All. They'll say that's somebody that's you know, relatively new and they're like, they're the greatest all the time. The reason why they're saying that is because they're seeing them perform in real time, as opposed to saying biggie all. But I don't know, I don't know that I'm gonna see. What I believe is that that we stopped having olds in the culture.

This is what I believe. And then when when you stop having old gs, there starts to become a breakdown and who's telling you what is dope or what is the way you should operate? And then when that breakdown starts happening, then the young people have to put it together for themselves. Yeah, but here's the thing. Who was doing the same ship we using and we use the

new names. You know what I'm saying, like they're a little bit more disrespectful though they all new gen is a little bit more because when I hear them talk about big Opoe or Nas or whatever and downplay them. It's like they're being disrespectful and it's not cool. But we was kind of like that too, was was you really respecting like Grandmaster Flo? But we went the distance. That's that's that's what I'm trying to tell you that that's the difference. We would never wouldn't understand what they

was doing. But trust me, we was. We was saying and saying, but we knew that was the O G S. But we thought I know for a fact, at least me and my niggas when we we thought we wasilla, we did. We thought respect that's the world. Never do that and that makes a world of different. We would never do that where they're voicing a little disrespect to

legendary people from our generation that you did immortal. That's the reason why, that's the reason why I used their examples, like because they do actually big up certain people, like it's it's totally crazy, but they're big up like for real is the leader is the messiah of that new generation. But it makes sense because for real listen, they love to listen, say they like Kanye too. Because these guys Farrell and Kanye was different than us. They wasn't done

out skateboard, b you know what I'm saying. So Farrell was like in the generational thing where it was so important to be truthful and honest and from the hood. Farrell came and was like, I'm me and we loved them. So that had a big influence. Fucking culture, this person culture. Farrell said to me, and they quoted me Bloody Money verse. I was like, oh, Farrell's hip hop to the car and said absolutely, but I'm not. I got no you

know no, he didn't say that. He said I got no thug bone in my body, and I respected them. That's a generations expect people for who they are. Just don't front. I'm saying. So if you a fucking like a nerd nigga or whatever, cool, just be you, nigga. What we don't like is the front and in the faking nigga. Don't come around here for real. Came around here and tolding guns and then like they can give

me the gun, nigga. Stop stop that bullshit nigga, and then you hand him skateboard or whatever like that and say, hey, you know what I'm saying, It's all good. Our generation was some of the most intellectual and smart people think, but we like you were smart nigga, or ever since the day this nigga was plotting, strategizing, ever since he was in fucking seeing you know what I'm saying, Like he was thinking, Nori, I gotta separate myself, get rid of this comparison. I gotta d me and this is

how I could flourish. He's been a thinker from day one, disguise and the fucking camouflage. So it doesn't when when when Drink Champs came out and it's fucking exploded, I wasn't shocked because he's a guy that I know. Yo, that's that guy. Look White Club who was just sitting him White Clus. I'm not bullshit, And this nigga made an album that's so only four millions. This thing is ill and he's worldly. He makes music for the world. I don't think White Club goes in and makes music

for fucking a certain section. He's like, oh, they're gonna love this in Zimbabwe, they gotta love this, and fucking Germany in that little hole in the wall club because he's been there, you see what I'm saying. So someone to make him serve the world again, I'll bet on him, and if he does it, I'll be like, I'm not really that shot. When I see Hi dream Champs and watch the ship explode, and you know, I said, congrat but I think I wasn't really like, oh ship. Now

this thing has been a brain from the dog. I know the brains I could see people. You know, me and j D said, you had j D. Me and j D be having the most interesting conversations. And j D, you know, he's an interesting guy. He's an interesting guy, a genius. When Noise I did the same to us, I get hope, boss and the penny that's all, you know, like that, I just show my. I just show my

if you called Janny penny penny. But motherfucking like with j think we have a conversations and you know, we talk about some and we talked about artists today and he'd be like, God that nigga. Richard Pride. You know you know what he means by that, as you see the Wizard of Oz, the Black Wizard of Oz. Richard Pride, he's the He's the Wizard of Oz. But the Wizard of Oz was a hoax. He ain't ship, you understand.

So he's like these things just fooling niggas like he's Richard Frod be like, man, nigga, that nigging Richard Pride got him, and he's like that nigger can't do it or keep doing it. And we just be sitting there talking and it would be some interesting ship because it's two kniges that really did it, and we just be like and I'm like, nah, this nigg is gonna do it, and he'd like that Nia Richard Pride. But this thing is what I'm saying, is also with Nori. He's always

been He's always been this guy. Yeah, you see I need a drunk guy. He having fun. But what he's thinking, I know him, Yeah, I know him. When you know he's like, I'm gonna serve these niggas. Let's just go with what what can I do to create? Like this name created his own lane, his own thing and servings. Thank you got it? But chess chance to serving name. Let's go chan service b J shot because b J, why you ain't talking? Tell his nimes? Tell us yo, listen,

let me tell you something man. That's a yo. I'm gonna tell you something. A shot, listen, give um a shot. Come on, what's another thing? Where's that we need another fucking drink? Champs stop? Yeah yeah, pop and go CHAMPI and kills kills people. He kills people. How yeah, yeah, you gotta relaxed, Champa him, Yo, Yo, just relax spa J. I'm sitting you massively, yo yo jest you know, hold on on my bad. I definitely you think gotta come to drink chairs one time. But b J, how is

it running on that murder? Ain't run? How was that on you for you? B J? Talk to the people. He ain't gonna incordinate himself like I'm going on. How funny was that when niggas was on top of the world, like y'all niggas was charged and niggas two hundred and fifty y'all niggas running around Yode When we did the um real record we made, Tommy told he said, Yo, Nigga, he wanted to get in j Lo's video in l A said, Yo, Nigga, we got shipped to do. Nigga, you wanted to do that? Give us the jet for

like the whole week, sony jet, he said. Goddy, I said, Nigga, give up. The fucking jack was g four and that he was the most ignorant motherfucker's because I didn't know when you when you try to jet you can tell the students whatever the funk you want to eat. We was like, bitch, if you ain't got no Peter Lucas, and bitch, don't have don't not have the sauce, don't don't don't not have the Peter Lucas sauce. And be

asked Mr Postman, We was on some bull shit. You hey, you better have the garlics briefly and this bitch, come on, let's do it from Mr Chip Beth Hills. Give me yeah, motherfucker rising that bitch man, God damn it, let me think you made them all? So who's the fucking chill? Who's the greatest artist over all time? If you could pick just one, right, are you gonna do that? I'm just saying, don't do one this. Let's do a top five at least on this pop just one is Pock Pock.

You have a different thing. It was too much, man, he was too people like speaking giving him jewels. I like all the pop. I like the whole embodiment of pop because that's who he was. The same thing that I said, I'm gonna kill you. Nigga was the same thing, and that was like, Yo, we gotta be together. We have to fucking say that. He didn't. He never lied whenever that moment he felt, he said it. You know, he's a gimin off with If you want to give it to one artist, I give it to Poc all day,

all day. Big is hard because he had two albums. You what, you know what I like to say. I like to say Pop was the realist Nigga ever, but Big was the illness. Like when I first heard Unbelievable, I swear to you, I listened to that record like a hundred times live from Better Starves Some the live representing BEK to the fullest. It doesn't fucking ride, It doesn't ride, doesn't right. But he made the eyes. He

made it right. The love is one he's supposed to one on Donald so done representing b K to the fullest. Gats of pullet bass. It's ducking with Big bat bucking. She can hands be clucking in my bathroom. It ain't nothing. This is nigga. Look, look this is well. I just said it first. I know you who I know you? My nigga said, it's like nigga. His style was on the order like the what the fun did he do it on multiple riggers when he's just flowing and I'm like,

what this doesn't make sense, doesn't make sense? He put the Yeah, I want every want to go listen the biggest person. I'm telling you, you're gonna see what I see. He broke out any role of rabbit, his flowers and it was just hamming nigga. Come on, come on, nigga, stop stop fucking stop like the Snigger was like I was be like, yo is crazy, Like x X had a fault, like he used to do ship and you know, before I got on, I used to just listen to these albums like like a straight idiot. I was an

idiot savant. Then I would just slot myself in room and listen to the chronic and listen to Shoo Goes Why Why God? He figure out why? And I would come up with methods in my head musically for eight bars. You know what I'm saying, changing every guy I was. I'm telling you I was an idiot savant because I said I felt if I could figure out why, I could do it. Yes, yes, Like x X when he first came out. He used to do two bars of rhyman and then he would start his next verse off

with the rhyme. I feel like I came in off beat all the time. No, he did wasn't off beat. There's a method to the man is snaking Like So if he says, did he did? He did? He did? He did? He did? He? Hey did he did? He did? He did? He did? He did? He say? Hey did he did? He did? He did? He fake? No? Did he did? Did he? Meck? Met did? He did? He did? He did? He tech? Heck did? He did? He did? He So it was a constant movement of rhythm and rhyme.

I shouldn't be saying this because I'm giving up too much. That's that's what we need understand. If any unig is wrapped, that's what That was his ship as his genius, right, So he would he would he would end his rhyme and the first half a bar it would be rhyman, and then he would go to another thing. But it was a method, So it wasn't like there's a reason why he well hot, it's the reason. It's not a mistake,

it's a fucking reason. You know what. I'm saying. So that's why, like with me in the studio we're producing, I can make al record still to this day because I could mind fun the artists. I could mind fun the artists and thinking that they're the greatest artists ever, and I will give them little things to help them bring out their ship. So when I say that, like Snoop, he was all four bars and Drey, that's why when Drey gets in this all production, it's all perfection, you

know what I'm saying. So you listen to his ship and it's like it's all four bar sequences. It's like a six team ball verse with four or four bars, and Drey is musically making sonically he's coordinating with that rap. But when Snoop first album, even though I wasn't there, I could bet my last dollar he freestyle probably the majority that as. But then think it was just in the blunt hey two three into the full his room.

His was just simple, but yet ill Snooping in that time frame, Sue was one of the illest rappids ever ever. I give him that ever, and he may not be a lyrical beast or whatever like that, but just how he was putting you can flow and and how crazy is it that, Yeah, Snoop makes some big records with Farrell because Farrell's dough. It's Farrell gets it, you understand. But Stoop with Dre's always different. I think, when you know what it is, I tell exactly what it is

with Snoops with Dre, because it's the same thing. If I was in the studio with XJ and Job. They can't bullshit with you. They can't bullshit with me. Stop can't bullshit with Dre. He gotta because Drake don't be like nigga, I don't like it. How many niggas can go to the student with Super saying, Nigga don't like it's Snoop is skin depth the Santans. I like the verseever, like that's whatever he says. They're cool with it. I

just got it, But Nigga Dre don't. Switching to a different ship by session, Uh, y'all was at the crack house and you had gave Prodigy. You said, Yo, you're never smile. I think I was like, I'm not sure if I was there for the speech or if you gave it a speech. Afterwards. It was the l ship with me and Prodigy because the l Ship. It was a great session. Seven did the beat and it was some flowing melodic ship and the Ship was a dope record. I swear to guy. When he passed, I was like,

I want to find that record. Just left the picture, something like that. But the conversation that I had with Pete, it was crazy, who's in the studio? I was in the studio, crack house. If you know them days, anyone who knows them days, it was nigged out, Oh my names, you know what I'm saying. So I basically said, Pete, you're not giving the true depiction of the fuck because I said, the FuG it is fucking to better his family, fun with some bitches, get some bitches, just have a

better life. If you're just stuck in being muggol day, then that's corny. This is what I said to him. So I didn't want to make a Prodigy record because I was like, I can't make nothing better than survival, little fitness, sucking nigga. He's nigga queens get the money. That whole slogan, it's it's p queen, get the money. A long time cleezy, get your money, goes sute. So listen, I'm not making listening lad, who the thing is living

to this day? I tell his young niggas crying, don't pay, saying cleans, niggas, don't play, niggas, stay out of my way. I'm not making nothing harder than that. I'm a realist. I'm looking at the mir I know who the fun I am, and I smile and I'm happy with the nigga reflection. I see. I'm not making nothing harder than mom fucking you know what I'm saying. Your beef is

mid and now for nigga. So the direction that I went with people to make some dogshit that helpless life, giving niggas a reason to be like, yeah, you know what I'm saying, That was the direction that I took him in. I didn't want to do him all I could Nigga just that one line. I can't make nothing harder than that, like nigga. Uh. That was one of the albums. Listen. That was one of the albums I used to study. I studied thematic, I studied mom D, I studied Dr Dre, I studied Wu Tang clan. I

studied a lot of ship. I studied pop records and rock records too, But I ain't giving y'all those because I don't want you to really know what's what's what's the movie? Rana is ill? What's something you are grab and it's cold j and not us the Jay Nas thing. You regret that that happened, or you regret that you donticipate I entertained signing Nas to murder rank. Not because I don't love NOAs I love Nas. I love Nas as a brother. If I see like the best way I can some of up, Like if Nas was in

the fight, I'm getting in. I'm jumping. I'm jumping in thall shed blood, stab, shout up whatever for my nigga, him and Jungle brothers. That's said you with Jason say seven man, me and Jay is a deeper level of cover hood, you know what I'm saying. So I should have never made Super Ugly and then waiting fun with Nas. So if you had, because he let me see it complete? Yes, or when Nas and Steve start reach out, yo, tell

not sitting on with Jay squashed his ship? Oh no, No, I shouldn't have went with the conflict of interest to this. I should not have went with Nas. I made Super ugly. I got more shooters and queens than you got. It didn't know that. I didn't know that. That's where he meant. Yeah, he was talking about me, and I got awkward. My niggas, my niggas is with were extensive. You know what I'm saying deep on the deep. Who wasn't mad Rude wanted to take over WU? Rule was? Who was my beloved brother?

So you know what rule is? Whu. Let's jump off this fucking building. You sure, Gotti? He jumping nigga. I can't explain it no better than that. That's why I should tell niggas you be from Voodi that nigga along, come get me. You fucking right. And I didn't even look at you fucking right. You know, I don't even looking at That's how morder gets down. Nigga up and it's a marble us my ship dot out. You're jumping

dots out. She jumping nigga. That's murder with so all you niggas out there, you're fucking with me, You're fucking with the nation and niggas. That's jumping nigga. You don't want that, you know. One of the best things I could say when it comes to the B Ship because you know anyone could get killed. You know what I'm saying, my nigga praying you should say well saying b J said Joe, Nigga, if you if you get killed, take your blood, write your name or the nigga who did it,

We're gonna get him, what I'm saying. So when you talk be Ship, I'm talking B Ship real quick. No, I'm said, but I'm gonna just let niggas know who you're. This is what you get when you're This is what you get when you murder nigga, you get one of us to becoming nigga. We're gonna come. You can get me, but for sure, I'm not gonna be the one that died. Niggo got it for sure. Don't touch any of your mind. They got none. They got t Let let me take

it over because your fake, your fake game. He's just fucking with Prem. Hey, that's why you talk, nigga. Don't get the fuck up just that niggas, Just that niggas prem had my back. Nick You talk about pre My Max you nigga, me little old pussy, me fucking that you thinking you know pre what up nigga up. I think we gotta make noise for that. Yeah, yeah, we don't like, we don't like bringing that out. We're putting peaceful Diggs. I'm a good executive there anything like that event.

So you know what I'm saying, good executive, We tally am. I'm a very fucking creative and preenian guy. But like when I was going through my trial, one of the things with the trial that that was blaterally obvious to me was, hey, IRV, you're a very smart, intellectual guy who made these great things. But hold on, leave those niggas alone them nigga as you win them. Nigga is like the nigg is sitting next to me, Nah, leave

him alone. And I'm like, I'm like, hell because you hear but listen no. But I'm like, I love these niggas. I love b J. I'll died for b J. Nigga, don't get it fucked up. Don't get it fucked up one bit. Nigga touch b J. I'm not at you like I'm not at you, nigga. Every fucking thing I got, niggain you touched one of mine. You know who is talking about He's sunny d BT with class. No, it definitely class. Hold you know what it was about it? I know exactly exactly kind of know what I'm do.

You know it wrong. Let's tell you something this he's selling give him. I got at. That thing is like a b J. I give it. But you said we're no good. You got more class. He knows how to switch kid's My brother was how to switch kid. He has no class. Do you wanna let this? You're gonna love it. I'm gonna give y'all some ship, a lot of Hey, sunny DBT you listen, you wanna love this to go, listen, I'm gonna give you. I will give you some ship. Got you, Let's go and give y'all

some ship, some more ship. Remember there was a time everyone they made a campaign, got you for death jam president? Yeah? Why did he give it? He said, obvious choice. I'll tell you something. Questions, but thank you for going. I tell you some ship and sunny DVT. He's gonna love the ship. So it was a fucking private meeting. I'm not gonna tell you what who but a very powerful person and that person said to me, crystal clear, Gotti, do you want to be president of Death Jam, I said, Jam,

they gotta do. I want that ship. I think I could fucking kill it. I'll really make death jam Ellen Gain, you gotta get ready your niggas Sagetti forgetcause you know I'm gonna. I know what that meant. Take it in man, my man, my man, Brooklyn's son. He was with me every day looking my niggas strip provided literally okay, okay, y'all stop, but listen. There was like Gotti, you're the

most polarizing figure. I said, what do you mean? They said, Look, everyone knows your talent in this business, but you cannot forget the FBI Defence Rated Avenue Universal Music Group. They're not gonna give you that while you're every party you go to not gonna killers. I'm not gonna listen, let me tell you something. To what I said, to what I said, what she said to what I said, I'm gonna have to figure out another way than my nigga

because I ain't never gonna leave my niggas. I said, I hey watch this, real niggas can relate, Real nigga relate. I'm gonna say, some ship that don't worry about you gotta keep it up. I want to say that right now and on mine and I don't we go next thing. We're gonna this would god sucking worried. I'm gonna saying it's a real ship. Niggas only can relate. I told the man who told me this. I said, you're trying to funk with my sleep. Nigga. I said, I sleep

very good. I sleep so well, I said, nigga, if I was to do any disloyal ship to the negative who have shown me nothing but love, honor and respect, I said, my nigga, you're gonna have me not being able to sleep. I need my rest because I go odd. Real niggas could related. My mother, Ninny, who I love and worship put above God. When I was going through the fetship, she said, IRV just taking you away for

twenty years? What about your kids? And it was her my Nity and Poppy and my mother and my father, and she was basically saying, tell the fans whatever the fund, just get him away from you and offer you. I said, Nini, you're trying to funk with my sleep. Mom. You know what my pop saying, leave Malone. Our son is a man. Real ship, my pop said. Joe told my mother leave malone. Our son is a fucking man. So if it's anything else facing the man is, if it's anything one more

thing else than you would take away? What would you? J Loo? Yeah this day Jo, it was Jo. Jo was yeah, like in the magazine, this is, this is on Ecstacy. This is because you know we love Ecstacy stories. Okay, sorry you, let's good with Jo first, Yo, Yo, just relaxed, tied my nigger. I thinking your ship but fucking up. The j Loo story is, I'm I'm an asshole. I'm an idiot at the highest level. J Loo was like

one of my really really good friends. Man, she was going like this, she was throwing up to the end. She was rapping, man, she was rapping and and she called me and she said, hey, I'm on the cover of EL magazine. And I told him to call you to get quotes. So I said, all good. Like j Loo was like our sister. She was like me and John's sister, like we love the murdering. All my niggas loved U, like everyone loved up, and I sucked up. So L magazine calls me. Now, let me give you

the prequel to the call. I'm on the phone with Tommy Mantola. Tommy Matola was the president of Tomatola is the chairman of Sony Records. He was the rule of Sony Records. So I won the phone with Tommy Moutola because they put Cadillac TI in the video for Ain't it funny Cadillac tying my artists? They put in the video, but they serviced the record to radio without the morning which I'm like, yo, you you're killing me because you

send him mixed signals. You're basically saying he ain't whacky enough for radio or he's whacked to whack for radio. So I'm heated. I'm like, you shouldn't let me put him in a video if he was gonna do that, you fucking idiot. Just like they get when they ed Ty was in the video, Sony service to record to radio without him on it, so they seen him in the video, but you didn't him on the radio vidio. And I was like, how are you doing this to me?

I gave you two number one, you fucking motherfucker. And he had said some bullshit like he's been telling what he says and raised his ship, telling to a big dog, let's keep it. He called Corey Rooney like a fat motherfucker, but he may use it in word right. So when he did that, I said, what the fund you just say? And I tell me much did you want to see on the fuck you up and Straightening Ship? He said, oh,

what did you just say? He said, IRV and he apologized and he was like he didn't mean to say. It was in the heat at the moment because we was arguing with I said, when I see him fuck your grass up? Me and Timmy is good now, like we're cool with you understand it was? It was. It was a heating conversation. Let me interject that was on three extasy pills at when you said that super timesman every day for like I was, I was on the little Fishies. I don't know if you know what the fishies?

What the fishes? Was a concession like that when I hate cadillacs. You're like, not in two thousand three, two thousand four, you're in two thousand understanding I'm talking about the fishes. I'm talking about two thousand to two thousand three. We're on Pluto. We're on Pluto, and I was on three and I want to interject as as as part. So I finished streaming on time and Mantola saying, Yo, basically, I hang up on time in Toolaly saying I'm gonna see you and I'm gonna fuck you up, laughing this

nigga gonna suck you up. Hang the phone up. My brother's there. I'm like, Yo, the snier. When we see the snia fuck this sting up straight like that. I think he's just like, what are you saying? I like you listen, don't worry about it. The boss said, we're gonna say, will be sucking gets up when I get the kicking and get the kicking, you understand. So boom so down. They're like, okay, okay. The phone rings immediately.

This is such a shots from l magazine And I told you cause I said, hear, what the fuck you want? Straight like that, He's seeing he had a live one and he says, oh, okay, I'll get straight to it. Listen. J Lo says that the I'm real record, it's not about Diddy. What that bitch lion? So you just went off talking about it. Eron listen. I see how nigs like, oh, we meed you saying it when you read it is so much worse j Lo. I'm not talking about Diddy and I'm real. Next line, God, he says that bitch

is O and that's your home. I love her. Yeah, you did not care that. That's a reverse. I love j Low to this day. I love us. If I see another one, if I see someone, even with Jaylo, I'm jumping up. We love Jlo would never trust me again. I made two records for Jaylo. I'm really need it funny, I have not made another one. You gotta make it right, snowmaking it right. I fucking am an idiot. I abandoned her trust and her loyalty. And if she says till

she goes in the cast, get fucker Gotti. I deserved it, that's all. That's the truth. I deserve it. What idiot has the biggest star in the world. I could be making I could have made two movies with her. Benny Benny Medina, who's a manager, was like, after those two, don't both of those records. I don't really win number one for twenty one weeks. Uh, A'm funny went number

one for fifteen weeks. Check the stacks, google it right, So boom, I gave her the two Biggest Records, figured out the formula that's gonna work specifically for her, and did no more records. Bennie mcdina was like, yo, IRV Gotti is doing all music. He's executive producing her albums. We need like love me, j Lo, love me, I love not j used to go like this and photos. She threw the m zone like yo, like this, like she was Nigga. I was with this and I disrespected

and abandoned that ship. This fuck me forever. I don't even like I apologize to a hundred times. And every time I see it, I just bowed my head. And that's all I could do. If she never fus with me again, she has every right to say fuck her. Of Gotti and I have. She could throw ship in my face, she could do whatever, and I'll sit there and take it and like I deserve everything that you fucking give to me because and listen, we was like friends.

We was friends, man, we was friends. I told about the Remember when Shog was saying he had listen, Remember listen, listen, hold on. Remember what Sugar was saying that your U sess tape with her. What we're saying he had a sex tape on j Loo. Okay, Nigga, I went there. I'm sure, nigga, she do this. Nigga, you can't do that, Nigga, he's a gotty she with you. I said, she's the best, more fucking world. Nigg You can't do that, nigga, destroy that ship if you got it, he said, Yo, got

it for you? Tell her no ever see that ship? Has anyone ever seen that ship? But this is the friendship that I had with her, Like, I love j log Like, I'm so pissed at myself for doing that. That's what. Listen. That the biggest She's gonna feed this na Listen, listen if she sees it. Yo, you know I love you j Loan like your friend. Listen, I love you and I totally yet and I totally get it. Give me a blood girl the girl. Let me tell

you about j lo She the coolest nigger. Like when she was the biggest superstar, she was hanging around with us, and she's not only like everyone in murdering. Everyone of murdering. Was mad at my gut. What the funk wrong you, nigga, I said, y'all was high, Nigga, I was fucked up and just thinking Tommy had me on some bullshit man, but everyone was mad at me, like what did you

do that for? Yo? Like j Lows with us j Lo with us nick we love j logo and I was like, I didn't have an X. I was like I was high, which I was, and that's I was out of my mind, comes out of my mind. But it ain't no excuse. So that's why she shi sold me too forever. I gotta accept that. I gotta accept it because yeah, I was gonna say, because she's like's right there, like shows and biggest got he couldnt come. I mean when they did to show the b really

make that up? No, not he made that. She would never say that because I've come to show ruling hum and as I said, hey j Loo and she says, hi, but you know it's the thing we had. She will never trust me. And I don't blame her, and I don't blame her. I love j Low and then she don't love me. I'll just I mean, I think it's honest that you're saying that. It's rail. It's like it's no if I told you, I speak, I always speak the truth. I fucked up. I sucked up majorly with

this with a superstar. But I'm telling you that matter three fishies. I was on three fish eats. I'm glad I never had a fish You never let me tell you, brother nig my man, I ain't gonna say his name because he'd be like, know like that, I don't know. Hey, my man, this thing called the Purple Waifer. This ship, it was like a and tupple stack whatever five times whenever you're saying she was a huge pill. So my man tells me, dotty, you do this, take a piece,

don't do the whole thing, the whole joint. Come on, he and all that met. You know how to tell bitches. I'm like, you take half a shower when you're happy, we do the whole ship over right. So bool, I did the whole ship, and my bitch didn't the whole ship. I had hallucinations. I used to be there. I would be the shower. The ship would feel like that. She would feel like we're turn hot. I would tell him

a bit showing the devil's here. Get off the shower, bo, we get on the shower, right on the shower, will mind you? I'm like, wait a minute, vendo, I'm sucking up listen me this protection. Then I will look at the TV that I was shrimming. I was shrimping for real. Now I don't look at the TV. Look I was like that ship the Devil's here. I would think the TV and the cartoon cat because we don't trying to stop. You have experience like that that gives you focused that

what drug are we talking about again? It's actually piper. It was called the Purple Purple Waifer and we don't want your life. And the drug dealer who sold it to me said, dotty, don't take this. Let's let's tell on one side what going involve his day that well and saying this is one his name was one we live in he Wan. It wasn't it wasn't one stop, it was what was down? Okay, listen, all right, how much cocaine did Bobby Brown do? What good day? Bobby

Brown is my nigga? Did you see he did? The interview said and he did something we said he fried shaking on cope. Can it's usually like it was, that's like in the powder. That's the hardest thing. Like Tony he killed Tony my Tanner. And then with that one, come on, guy who was basically chicken flower cocaine play. You know, I don't give no credit to these guys. Let's think about because he's because you're not black. You're good when you look keeper. No, it's a black person day.

If you it's not cool, Let's don't say that lasts and we just tell you something. If you don't, if you're Donna cook Fried ticket, we're going thirty pieces of more. Who we going dirty? If we going dirty? Pieces of more? So flun Bobby the Fried Ticket, come hard, hold hit the ball. You the Bob Star, which I say, was nothing wrong. I love Bobby Brown. You let me take We need Bobby drink Champs as well his job drink Listen.

I love Bobby Brown. Okay, I should have knew something was fucking fishy, right, you should have knew some of it from the session automatic. The session was was legendary. Yeah, we where Miami's Hit Factory. Bob comes in and mind you, I've never seen Bob physically du cold. I never see he never did lines from me but Bob, and he was super natural, super natural, And he comes into the studio and I think the A C was off because the Hit Factory. Something was always wrong. You know, the

session was like Comble hours but saying hour. The shirt is off and Bob is after the stroke, after the stroke, before the stroke. I think it's before the show. This was before the show. But he's off the shots. The thing is, I'm like, okay, he's doing a low note. I know you're getting bored. Damn right. Hey if all producers then know the low note is important, it's the feeling. So now I said okay, Bob and lives. He said, I got you gotta. He says, give me, give me

like ten twenty minutes he goes, he comes back. Charlie Bollamar is in the session as well. Oh he's hollering. He's like, Charlie, what by this time over the places? None, listen, listen. By this time, my shirt is off because it's hon is a mothercker. So this is thing. He's in the studio, you know the ad lite. He's going like, but I'm like to getting this hot. I was I was hot. I'm gonna be honest. This is a period when I was high on three. So he's three, he's hot. I'm hot.

That's how that record was sucking made. Okay, I was made on two niggas that was very high, right, so fo we're hot. And then motherfucking now he was the only thing we Bob did brand I shouldn't have did a t bt X, is granted because when I did the bt X, ball was on that mother he was

broading his teeth. I think it was gronding this taket and everyone knew this thing it's hot, and it tainted the autistry of the record, you know what I'm saying, because it made you ship like a cocaine record and laid out should like drudging deuce record, and which it was. Wasn't able to love it. We was okay, okay, okay. Who shot the video? Nigga? I spent a million one on that video, just on some ignorant sh I said, think I want to shut down Hollywood Boulevard things like

n that's gonna take like three hundred thousand. I said, paying, Let's just get so much money. I wants three undergrad pay. We locked down Holland for like three blocks, put the side of thing and said murder rinking. He was just running around your cup empty. Oh bro, we got more ship. Yeah, that's a champagne like, hey, hey all drink chat this ship is official, like I really fun drinking drinking brok like the old bullshit aside, this ship is real. I'm

really fucked up. Legree, chairs is legit. I've never lied in my life. I don't lie. The reason why I don't lie everyone is because I had theory think people lie when they're afraid. I'm afraid of nothing, so I never lied, right, But God, so the truth here is I am truly fucked up. Dat me. You know what you know? What you know are good for Leo. So Leo and what calls that he brings me to the Polo allows that ain't much. You know. I'm still gonna dude from Left Right City like I don't really like,

but I know what I'm doing for Leo. He wants to come to me, and he wants to sit down with me. He says, you know why I love Drink Champs, And I said, what's up? He said, the fact that Leo Cohen watches Drink Champs and study Drink Champs is what makes him to me, in my opinion, one of the dopest executives. Go ahead, so he goes. You guys, don't do the gossip. It's not t MC no, you you celebrate people. So, just in case you didn't know why you were here tonight, don't get it twisted. Don't

get it twisted, get it twisted. We're here to celebrate the motherfucker life. First, we celebrate the leg for motherfucking IRV got it. I didn't see in a hip hop in hip hop. In hip hop, you gotta throw a drink on it, and the you know, in the new era hip hop, you gotta fight somebody here. Yeah, some viral, get a viral? Do over here what we're doing over here? We're here, sit here, we celebrate your history. We sit

here and say, you know, this is our history. But y'all get ship that other niggas can't get Yeah, because that's the way it up. Yeah, that's the way we all decided to get funked up to as well. Who don't want to get sucked up? Exactly when you funked up? You feel good? I feel good now now let's just throw it out there. It's in all either guy who invented penot Gleisio and hip hop. I felt like I did. I can't murder, ain't I can tell you no, no nothing,

speak on it. You gotta share publishing. You gotta share. I'm gonna be honest with you. You get listen, you get older credit. Listen, you get a little credit for everybody I remember. Oh you w you speak on Penot. You get all of the credit for the underground. Okay, the stream who drink? Who started drinking? Pinot's coming? But you gotta share publishing credit more rya Carrie. Oh no, that's one percent. Okay, there's one, so you feel me? Ran carry who's on torpedo greasy ship? Yeah, come on,

lamb me drink this. I checked Mariah for close, like I don't gonna stop saying fucking lam me. But listen, let me just tell you something. At one point I had like a crazy hot record we all signed the Deaf Can but Me and Rule live together. And I came to the office murdering Golfice and y'all niggas is Remy Martin? Correct? Rules, Remy Martin? Yes. Then he he transformed to Christal. He had he had like one of two years of nigga when he woke up a bottle

of Remy. He was like Christal was his ship when he just went but not sponsorship ship, right, No, none of this is he drank that ship with drink Remy Martin when he woke up with people drink orange juice, maybe some water he had ring me and a fresh bottom like ship. Ye yeah, that's he's And then let me just tell yourself that I game with a case of Santa Marga win the Peter Ways. You know, nigga said you'll drink one because there's there's the Haiti error

and I just gave Chris your brother Chris Scottie. That's my nigga. Uh with b J. He trying to escape the camera likega bigger behind. They already got us already. I'm just you're gonna you're gonna go. But I remember bringing that there and then that was it like hip hop started being I mean, I felt like I was the first one. Noory, I will give you a claim. I will give you that claim at least No the

Pinot Griggio Santa Magreen's exactly, scific Santa. That's all. I was like a tree five and it's a good drink. When you order that, it lives. It might be sat exactly. The sea is the difference. We do this one second once this one. I'm pretty trended published who wants his plan brought Pino Riggio him live, But I said, Joe Mariah's hip hop. No no, no no, and he's Pino Griggio Santo and dragging in my spot. We have the footage and I own the footage and we can after

the back. So you put her on. No, on that hand, never say you say you put it on she she she was owned and dug it out of That's why I said he got a ship. That's for the reason why this is the reason. Let me just say something like if you think about it right, like what year you felt like you've been on? Right? Like you got that I was making money and I'm on and I'm in the game. When I got my Geronimo sign, like

ninety four four tv TK, I'm my first check. Never been broken since then, because yea, yeah, will be way smarter than come on, I'm not trying to get to a smart place. Let's let's try to go to a smart place. But it's not smart. It's just ninety four. I think about you calculated all the things you spent

the liquor me. I'm not a liking, no, I'm just saying just you had to buy a licking for videos, nigger, Like those budgets that you were saying videos, It's still not extensillary budgets are you saying, like in the in the club like for them years for me over million dollars on you. I wish so a million. Let's have it, Let's have a million. I just gonna make some look and I'm not even yeah, I'm not in you know when I go out man murdering days again. I was

making thirty million a year. Right. My brother had a black call. My brother's funny, funny Chris, It's very funny. Okay. My brother would be like a mes bill, come in. This thing's spending like a hundred two hundred thousand. I'm like, nigga, fuck you doing. He I'm repping. I'm holding it down from a ring, keeping us alive in the streets like they can shut the funk charts in the car. Yeah, because he's to go out every night to all of the clubs. My brother in my brother's presidence in New

York City is amazing. No, never see let me tell you something. We're seeing him a million times right now, so quickly fantastic. I think he's the bes right now, just so ya know everything, because rule says you gotta inhale. So every time he had that's when I called the rules like no, that's when I get like, I just got higher because he's just there's you, Travis Scott. I love Travis Scott. Travis Scott, Travis he's more than though, because like he's a thing. I've been listening to his

vocal production and this production. Like the reason why I'm giving Travis so much credit because everyone's like, yo, you really love Travis Scott and I'm like, yeah, But the reason because I'm a producer. So he's producing his own ship. He's doing everything for his own ship, you understand. So I detect the brain there and he's us every time

they go around. And then then the second because you ever see him performing that record, pull it up on Google washing performing that record, and when he performs that record, when he goes to the second, they go fucking crazy. So what I'm saying is when I see that he knows what he's doing, like Drizzy Drizzy knows what the fun he's doing. Man is the best. He's the best because he knows what he's doing. Let me give you a conversation with drawerversation. I'm in fucking Canada. I'm trying

with Charlie Mack. What up, Mac? You know what I'm saying with Charlie Mac. And I'm trying to get Drake to do with like Fresh Prince of bel air Ship. You know what I'm saying, just a TV series of anything of its kind. I said, I'll take your two boys. I'll do the show on them too, just as long as you know. But listen to what I'm saying, because I'm like, Drake is so big, and he's big on

the music level. I'm like, if Drake was in my era, Drake wouldn't be selling fifteen million to twenty million a clip. Do you realize this? So right now he says three or four. If he was in my era, he was selling fifteen to twenty So I noticed. So I'm like, once he does something outside the music genre, he's gonna see how colossal he is. Damn colossal. Hes that thing is colossal. I believe that Drizzy and Drizzy is my boy and I love saying that. I think that dude

is super lyrical. Listen, he's a genius. He's a genius that motherfucker's a genius. Okay, Drizzy for sure is a genius show and I don't care if he if he if he uh oh they wrote this, how don't think it? Okay? But does that matter? I mean it doesn't really. I believe that he's such a workhorse that he needs influenza genius show that think he is a genius. He's all he's he's dare I say he's our eminem of today. I don't dare say that he's fun? Can't him? And

I won't dare say that. You know why, he's black and he's half Jewish, so he has so that's why we dare say that. You fucking right, No, listen, I think he's just as talented and as white people. Listen, white people will never let him and him die. Never white people will never let him and them die and them. If you're listening right now, I love you. I never wanted to be with you. You know me, Power one them six oh pop? What's the l a station yet?

Power onehom six fucking summer jams. Me and you shooting pool laughing, joking. We was cool, We was buddies. I know you loved x JA and John. I know you love them. Guys, you had to fucking flipa me for thing. You know, God and his body. Great line, but literally, I'm just I'm just telling you, if you're listening, I respect you, I love you as an artist. Then I respect you tremendously. You understand. So where is the Drizzy comparison? The Jewish side of Drizzy is so happy that one

of their own is this colossal rapper. They're never gonna let him go. Never. So I don't see that. I don't see what you're saying. Okay, I feel like I'm Jewish. Wait wait, wait, wait, listen. People to fight. People in hip hop that love hip hop, they they will never in a hundred million years let Eminem go. Eminem to this day could drop a record and it's gonna sell, Like, doesn't matter what it is, it's gonna sell. They will never let him go because it's there, one check, it said,

one shining moment, and Eminem is worthy of that. Why is Eminem worthy of that? Eminem has bodied every single rapper he's got on a wreckord absolutely, and Eminem coming from a battle rapper. And I know about battle rappers because my guys was battle rappers who I came on with. Whenever Eminem gets on the record with somebody, doesn't he shot yes he body ja Agate, Eminem body jay or in a gate Let me say it again, body my brother jay Z again thoroughly it was. But let's get

to the task. You don't believe that, No, literally you you're gonna say that Eminem didn't body j On Red the Game. I always looked at it like a great record. I just always fuck you, hold on, hold on, hold on, treat people, let me allow me to say this. Fuck you tell me exactly who body who? On rend the Game. Sometimes I just don't look at it as an artist. Was like, I don't know what this is. No On jay Z, jay Z, it's maybe it's in the argument

it's the greatest records that ever listened. Listen Eminem body j On. I don't look if I love a record in this totality, I don't know. Look at the lyrics more. Talking about the lyrics, first of the using big words just to just to is it j You had to say j M or renigame who is this verse for verse? I love the record? Yeah, we love the Red because I can't now you can ask me you're super ugly, and I'll say, we don't want to talk like that.

We're not talking about Listen, when Eminem gets on, hold on, when Eminem gets on any record with any rapper, just forgetting jay Z with any rapper, he annihilates him. You know he does. He I would give him. I want to give Eminem a blessing to show that I funk with you and I never meant to be with you. Room, never mean to be you. Never it was beef, but it was that wasn't real. She was fifties rail and

I know he's fifty, so all good, you understand. But we never had any bad feelings towards Eminem or Dr Dre. And if we did, I'm truthful, nigga, I would say it. I would be like, yeah, funk that nigga or whatever like But now I like them in them, I like them and them, and I love Dr Dre. Dr Dre influenced me as a producer with his words, just with him talking, I was influenced. So I love Dr Dre, I love Eminem, I hate fifty and they got all tangled up. So but here I'm giving them in jewels,

and I please, if you use it. I don't care. I don't care. I just I just want to listen. Listen. I don't care. So if you're listening, please just listen to what I'm saying. I said this to Jimmy one time. To Jimmy, I every one time, but Jimmy was looking at me. He thought I was crazy, and he's like, I could never say this to him because he may hate you. Right, Okay, I get it right. But here I'm gonna get it out to you now. Hopefully listen.

Eminem should come off with an album called Features, and he should do an album with every song he just is a featured, and he does it with another hottest artist, Verse for Verse, and he just kill every nigger, you know what I'm saying, Just kill everybody because him, he's a battle rapper. So when he does a record for himself, he may try different creative things or whatever. But when he's on the record with somebody, I'm gonna kill this motherfucker right now. I would love a record with him

and DMX because DMX has the same right. He may do a record called Features, and in this record he should just don't even produce it him or you produce a couple of tracks. As I know you'd like to produce and get right, you know, don't and get it off. But do a record with all of Drake. Well, he already boughtied Drake on the sprite ship. Just be got it's on the Sprakee on on that record with everyone on it. Did he body him? He did? And you don't want kissed me off? You don't piss me off

in that video, You don't kiss me off. The white boy had all the niggas behind him spend his verse. I wasn't a part of that story. I did what he had the last verse, and the white boy you had all the gold spend his verse. He played like a fucking nigga, was like, what the fun is going on? Yeah, y'all hear it? Taiminam Bro, you sucking up, give it me and get it on you. In my mind, just on the special project, hold on, hold on him, every specialty project. Please please please just do a record and

just get everybody on it. So why did you go wrong with him? And what happened? Why didn't that even happen? Because I can tell you I didn't. You're really passionate. And because he was with fifty shipping on us Earth guy. He got mccardi in his body over you can't be matter hand. I'm never matter I have love for him, I swear him and I got love for him. But Joe, it just it is what it is. This fucking idiot

Nigga involved him and Dre. The indiot Nigga had had fucking him and Dre like Dre, Hey, I'm gonna give y'all Joel, I'll give y'all jewel. Dr Dre who's on the cover the Source with the gun to his head, remember that I believe in that feature. With him talking, he said a lot. He said, Yo, it's not that producers want to make wax ship. They just don't know how to get what they got in their head to tape. He said that. I said, that's me because I can't play.

So if you know IRV Gotti. In the history of IRV Gotti, when you look at IRV Gotti, it was produced by dj R, no one else, no one else. It was just me sampling putting ship together. But when he said that, I said, he's right because I have other ship in my head, but I don't know how to get it to tape because I can't play instruments. So then after that you've seen erv Gotti produced, er Gotti in seven, Ergotti ching Santana, Ergotti, a little rizzy

IRV Gotti rep. It was other people because now they knew how to play, they knew how to do things that I can't do. So then that's when the records became bigger and bigger and bigger, and I made some fucking big records. You ate in motherfucker's Yeah, I'm as ship. I used to come to the studio like this. Yeah. I was access Yeah, yeah, God Damlas make the thought verbody drop broke with my drain and ran was lost up there we go. No, we're done. We're done, going a lot of ship, Yeah,