Episode 1 w/ Guest Fat Joe

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chat podcast. Okay, who do we happen to build it? Fat Joe? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, what's up y'all? What's going on? Brothers? What's going on? What's going on? My brother? Last night, I got a chance to be in your studio session and you and Remy ma actually done album. Oh yeah, crazy though, Now I'm good. Nah, you're humble. I don't have to be humble for you. I'm hold up people like us. We weren't there. So when you down together, what do you mean by that it was a complete

album together? Or executive produce her? You know me and huh back and forth? Wow, sh crazy. I was amazed, you know what I'm saying. Because I heard Remy's mixtape. I didn't. I didn't think that was Remy mall. Like. What I mean by that is I didn't I didn't think she felt comfortable with the mixtape, Like you know what I'm saying. But when I came over from jail six years right, and um, everybody and their money, everybody

and their mother ran at her. And you know, she had certain loyalties to, like certain producers that she'd been working with for years, so everybody was running out and she was just like, all right, hy So this is how I don't think she really even knew what was hot. So what's crazy was you know, we all know it's rapping is like riding a bike, like you know, we know she nice and ship. She just gotta get in pocket and make and be produced, right, so you know

that mixtape? Let me talk right there. Do you feel like you kind of even though you probably didn't touch no buttons, but you felt you felt like you produced this though? Because it's like it's like it's like if lean Back had babies. That's what I felt like. It was like it was but you know how perfect that record is, like how how it hit the moment, not just New York City, but that's what the whole album felt like. It felt like Yeah, like if so, I

kind of felt like you produced it although I produced it. Yeah, it's all ship it's all and she sounds. So what happened was I was on the couch when she gave me to go ahead. You know, usually, how did this happen? How did the talk happen? Y'all doing well? Me and her? We was just you know, before she even came out, we talked on the phone. We squashed whatever beefs we had or whatever the case. Maybe I never really had

beet for Remy. Um. And then uh so when she came home, we started going to dinner lunch, like she was just called me up, yo, where you at? Like I'm in the Bronx. She come over eat and we just brother and sister ship and then um, she told me. She was like yo, she was like, um, you ready to get it in? And I was like, yo, I'm I've been waiting. I'm like you know, I'm like, I'm not trying to push you. I saw what. I don't know. Remy's bugged out. So I don't want this podcast how

to hear this and get mad at me. But you know, like I saw her, niggas was pulling up when she first came home, Like niggas, you know, two days after she come home for six years Swiss Beats got a record with her this, but now everybody was tugging on her. She came home like the female Tupac. Let's just keep it, yeah, like a female Tupac. So I'm sitting back like I know it's best, but you know it's not not gonna do. Let her do what you gotta do, do what she

gotta do. So soon as she told me, I was like, yo, like, I mean it should know brainer, Like I knew that was supposed to happen a long time ago, but it was presented to you as a whole project at first, or justica right happened what she said. We did the b X Fight Club, So that's the that's the only time I performed doing and all those years. So they had me I did. I did a favorite for holding them, and I brought up b X wolever for the ships. So I came out. We had to. We had to.

We had so I had to. So I went over there and I did it the Bronxes and there deep and I brought out Red Me as a surprise, and uh and you know, just the smiles and people's eyes and what I always say is people like fat Joe a lot, and people like Remy ma a lot. They love sat Joe and Remy. So it was just different, Like I'm looking at the crowd, she's rocking, I'm looking at her. So afterwards, when I walk into the car,

She's like, yo, man, it is different. Man, like these these people go they love to see me with you is different, YOA. I'm telling you, I've been performing everywhere. It's different when I stand with you. I said, so what are you saying? You know you want me to

get to it. She's like all right. So then I sat on the couch and you know it had to be perfect, like I view us and I don't want to just to kill me, but like a jay Z, Kanye West, like a Snoop Dog Dr Dre like a you know, you gotta realize the last record we put out with forty seven week number one, which lean Back, so everybody makes a noise for Adam, So you know that ship was like that ship was like number one

record for nine years and nine months. And the nigga who beat us was Flow Rut of Low, so like he beats everybody, Yeah, he beat me, Like we almost had the song of the decade. Rolling episode in a decade for that. So so you know, when when I came to funk with this, I was like, all, this ship got to be incredible. She knew that too. Sean sat on the couch and usually took me a month. It took me like nine months, and I ain't gonna lie.

You know, you know me and you're my brother, and he called me to Puerto Rican puff Daddy, this nigg is crazy for years. So I actually was confused. So this was the first time in my life that I made a project that I was actually challenged, Like I was like questioning myself because I wanted it to be so perfect that I was like, oh, ship. So the problem is we come from a different era, right, and

we got fat Joe Remy fans. But yeah, instead, we want to make music that relevant with these young niggas too, but not sound crazy, like like not not do the picking my bookers, picking my bookers. We don't want to do that ship right, but we want to do music that a DJ. Right now it feels like Joe Crack Remy mall, but we could turn that bit up and fucking rolesque k O D. Right now. That's hard, like really hard, Like I'm telling you I know everything about music,

like I mean, like I don't even know. I don't know how to explain it to you in any other way. It's like call you back to give me some wine. So listen, the nigga turned around, nigga Nori stupid, So the nigga turned around. It was hard to do, Norri. So it's almost I had to become a chemist. So not only was I on the couch, I was in all the clubs like day and night, day and night

while I was doing it. So I went to Toronto for a weekend and went to twenty clubs and sat there, and most of the ship they was playing I didn't even know it. I went to Washington Heights, sat in every club every night sushi to see what they're doing, sushi mambo. I went to the Brooklyn to Queens, to the strip clubs, so that everywhere to hear what the funk was going on now in New York City is only in Queens. Just want to throw it out there.

Continuing story, sir, Well, I was in Georgia's diner last and I was looking for you on so I'm chilling right. So the long story short, I wanted it to be perfect. I still wanted to be perfect, and it was a hard thing to do. So you know the fact with Remy, you know, even Pat Poos he turned around and he was like, yo Joe. He was like, you know, he said, So I'm telling Remy, Yo, come to Miami, come of studio,

come on, let's rock out. So she got a husband now, she and my little sister, you know, back of the bus. She could just leave. She got a fucking family husband. So I don't know what's going on. So I gotta go to New York and turned up with her and be like, I I rented the studio, let's go, let's lock in down right. So by the second day, the nigga Pat who said, Yo Joe, you know why I said what he said? Man, my bag, I said what you mean? He said, because you know it's my wife.

She's telling me she got to go to Miami and stayed for two weeks or three weeks with Joe. I'm like, funk, that sound like right? So non he's he's serious. So but he was like, Yo, I've been in here with you two days. He's like, the ship you bring out of her? The ship, y'all niggas get from each other. I get it. I gotta be with each other. The chemistry is crazy. You gotta be with each other. You gotta turn up with each other. So you know, it

was crazy, and you know we did. We did her half in New York and you know we have fred de Garson in the studio every day. You know, Pat who's was chilling. She was there, so we I just felt like we was just real well grounded with the musically the whole project in New York City. No. I produced it in Miami, and then I went up to New York to do Remy's half in New York. So wait, wait, but from that research that you did when you was going to the different clubs and what what did you

get out of that? Did you get? So I got what I got you needed? Yes, I did, and got a lot of literate shit um of the universe of what's going on? What did that bring to the project that brought the single singles called all the Way Up? So what happened was I was featuring or yeah, keeping that featuring in French Montana. My single off Drunk Uncle is also featuring in French Montanna. So New Yorker just keeping in New York right now being ourselves at that

shout out. Come on Produce is produced by exclusive young, up and coming producer out here in Miami. The nigg is incredible, He's the future. And also Infrared wrote the hook. So Infrared, you know that's my brother. Maybe any drunk nigga in the world, you know, I love him. So I was in Washington Heights and I was just studying the crowd. See when I go to clubs, it's like being in college. I watched to see what the bitches like. I see what the niggas like. I see what how

niggas feel, the drug dealing, niggative, broke, niggative. I'm just watching everything. So I'm sitting there. You might be thinking, Yo, this nigga, Joe Crack is even full of himself, or you know he's arrogant, or what the fund is wrong with him? But I'm sitting in I'm studying everything, every movement popping, so that when I go in the studio.

That's how I created Making Rain, That's how I created Leaned Back, and all my heads was like I study it and then when I get in the lab, I could just see the whole it's like I'm in the club, so I know what it is. And I realized that these niggers want to say I'm all away up. Nothing can stop me. I'm all away up. That's what they want to say standing on the couch at the club. So sh incredible, man, that what you're gonna call the

project is fat Joe. But we're gonna debut the title right now, and I hope niggers don't jack us shut up debut with I think I mean your friend. But the name of the album is called that's right, Okay, Okay, So the name of the album is called hard Money or Bullets. You know what I'm saying. However you want it, you know what I'm saying. When you got probably paying. But if you're front, you know what's coming. But it's

not a group name though. No, don't fat Joe featuring Remy or Remy featuring it's brotherly love niggers, both of us. Now you think it's about the album independent? We are independent. Everything I put out the last nine years been independent. And make your rain win number three in the country, and talk about win number three, I depended another round number three. Independent. Everything I do, I've been independent. All right, you off snapchat duties now because I need you with

the with the with the whistle. Good. That a good guy. Listen, listen, that's that's my guy. He's helping right now. That's what I got. Yo got everybody he got must anybody YO rights watching nor he's a bully. He's picking on the littlest guy here. Hey, this is my guy right here. Listen, you have duty when you're down with our cool mother. You're small big. Everybody has loved you round the vibe

of your crew. I love everybody's team spirited. But you've always maintained that whether you was working with niggas and the Bronze Queens wherever, you know, you such a real guy, such down the earth that you know niggas clean to you and they love you. So everybody played their position. You know what I'm saying that that's what it is. You know what me? People don't realize. You know, I was always number two and then was forced to go number one. So now how I could explain that to you?

When when I came up in the streets, My guy Tony Montana, he was number one terror squad always, so Joe Crack was vice president type ship. You know, he was the live wire and I come up in there after he do some crazy shit, clean it up right, So then, um, you know, and then when he passed, my brother was number one, and I always maintained number two. So I always been cool being number two. So then when I started rapping and it's fat Joe and then

I'll bring Pun in the game. And I realized that Pun is a hundred times better than me, I felt right into number two. I was like, yolet I'll hold it off for this. I ask you something I always wondered. So you met Remy through Pun? Yes, sir, so, so Pun had Remy. She is big puns artists because I remember Pun. I don't remember Pun. I was so jealous. I was so jealous because it wasn't too many crews where you had a nigger as nice at Pun, and then you had a bitch. There was like the nicest

bitch in the game. So he was like, yo, Twin, I want you to hear this girl. I signed. I'm like, all right, so I see it. She had the level vest I can never forget that ship. And then she just went off for like ten minutes streets and that's when she was saying, I shoot the air, bubble up your sneakers, and she was just going I was like so jealous. Man. I was sitting there like, oh my god, why my head was saying why I didn't find her? Why I didn't find So then after she rocks Punt

hits Museral twin. You know, she your artist twin, Like, you know, she signed to me, but we signed to you. Was label here had a label. It was Terror Squawk the whole time he discovered her. Friends, he's trying to say, yoe, he's signed that he discovering up. But he's like like it was coming to you anyway. But I'm just saying I want to say my artist, my nigga, thank God, And uh, you know what you did to deal with her after Punt passed Ornament was alive, we just did.

We did the deal with her. But while Palm was alive. You know, you know that I'm saying, most loyal realist in the world. We don't just say that because he's dead because some nigga is dad piece of ship. You know, Pum was one of the most loyalist niggers in the world. But most fun I mean the way I say, it is like, you know, I was the youngest kid in my house. You know what I'm saying. I never had a younger brother, so Poem was like the young brother I never had, and I was like the big brother

he never had. And uh, immediately, you know what I'm saying, it's almost like a relationship. Um. You know, in order to make a marriage last, it's like you really got to sign it mentally and heart wise. You gotta really say you no matter what happens, I want to stay with this woman for the rest of my life. And goddamn cut your hands for that academic Come on, Joe, I'm just saying, let's not it's just like y'all, but nobody stopping this ship, right. And it's the same thing

with like you know, with with me and pun. You know, after I heard him around for the first time, he sat in my call and he immediately I don't know how and why, but he was telling me ship. I wouldn't tell Nori now out about myself, and that's my brother. Like I could go to war with Norri, like I would really kill for Nori. He'll kill for me. I would not tell him some personal ship in my family growing up and know that. So five minutes later, mind

with the nigga. This nigg is telling me the deepest ship I ever heard enough, and I'm sitting there with him. I'm thinking to myself, you know, I'm a street nigga. I'm like, why is this naked telling me all this ship? Right? So I'm sitting there like this. So I knew his life story the first twenty minutes after I left them

I met him. I already knew it. But let everybody asked you something because we were in and there like like like ta to right, had jay Z's boy had brought me beyond that right and I had to joint And he said, Yo, she wants to do this racket. She wants to do it like Barbados and listen, check to check what I said. But she wonted fifteen bands. I had a million dollar budget at the time. I said no, Right, I said, no, I passed on that.

Did you know the minute you met pun that this was the next dude or was it instant or like I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna be honest with you. Um, I know music probably more than anybody. It's just the truth. If this industry wasn't scared of me for being such a gangster. N I would be the president of everything. Nobody really know more than me. Every time they turned around and they give a nigga a new job, they

I put it on blast. The minute they gave Joey I president of in the scope, he picked the phone up, call me and say, I learned everything from you, my brother. Please, you don't even understand everything I know. It's because of you. Everything I like. Niggas get presidents and they studied you my whole life. You are the smartest nick in here. But they're scared of me, so they won't give me that position. Don't know why, because I'm the nicest nick

in the world. Right, So when I met pun and then Nigger started rapping, so alright, the scene is, I told them in terms I don't want to tell ship on your ship that I told everybody. But but I'm just saying because we're family, so I go. You know, I was one of the only him being another one too,

so I can't start on him. But I'm one of the only rappers that actually was rich, actually was gold already and were still in my hood like I live in apartment five E. Like, literally, hold on, everybody better make noise for this. I am also from apartment five E, so you know what's crazy. I studied hip hop. Jay Z was also from apartment five What does that mean? Project? You gotta brings from Miami? Now I know what literally what that means. I'm saying, is there a hitt of

meeting behind them? We're gonna You're not gonna ask. Let me also make some noise for my brother Kate. You know Ray Kawan's brother. He once hogs. Happy Birthday, Happy Birthday. He said, I didn't seen it. Go okay, okay, excuse me. Somebody to get that man to drink. Somebody get that man. We ain't got no brown. We ain't got no brown. Okay, okay, I know you called me and I'll tell you I had it, but nobody never gave me my sneakers, my

purple first. Wait, hold on, we got it, he told mem gonna go pick it up because I still get him on. They gone, Joe, Let's let's go straight. I'm glad you brought into him. Are you the sneaker king? Um? And if you are, are you aboff Colin? Because I felt like you on and now they can't funk with me. Okay, I needed I'm saying that. Okay, let's be clear. But you put him on because I put him onto the sneaky game. You know, he's my brother. He's coming up

under the the culture. He's just Kellen is like a fat Joe on steroids, you know what I'm saying. So he's been with all Yeah, he's on extra drums and do that. When I when I went, when I went and got him his record deal at CODs, I started a relativity with Alan grum Black, so we didn't really even have no music or nothing like that. So when Callen kept bothering me like yo, I want to do

this album. I want to do this album, I said, Nick, let's go to New York, right, So we went up in there and the first thing I told Alan Grimler, I said, you don't understand this. Nick is incredible. He's a hit maker and he's fat Joe on He so Alan, of course, but Alan grun Black, No, no, no, that that Alan grum Black. He just went on for what I told him like like it was. He just went off for me, hyping them up, telling them like he wanted to be in business with that Joe so much

that he turned. It was like, Yo, this sneaker Joe never lied to me, and it was the best thing he ever did in his life because all grown black pain back pain. No, I never got royal chiefs. I know that. I don't know the answer. Nobody gets. He is a good guy, a little bit a little better cous I've never managed. Yeah, you know, nobody gets worried he's some con. But maybe we didn't deserve that. We gonna started royalty committee. We ever got to start something.

So now let's get back to the sneaker thing. Because I feel like I feel like you, my brother, right, You've always been, if I have to say, one of the best people, why ever man in my life at Joe's the smart guy. Now went to blow some noise to that. I feel like I feel like whatever connect you ever had, I'm always liberty at liberty to that, except you're sneaker connect. Never y Joe for MS, He'll give you his oozy man you know. But you know every time you get up here, I just always watched

his feet. I'm like, he's advance. You have Michael Jordan's number on speed down? Is this is what happens. I don't have Michael Jordan's number on speed now, but uh, because I feel like you'd be cheating. You got your connect is a cheating connect. But I deserve it because I've been committed to the ship forever. Before it was cool to be a sneakerhead, I was a sneakerhead, you know what I'm saying. So they know I'm not a sneaker had like, you know, I gotta give it the

college you college can't is a guy named Mayor. I don't know. While hasn't made my mathematics yet, he's my guy. God. You know, he's a god. He has his own sneaker at Nike correct, Yeah, I think so. Yeah, he has a cop he's uh, you know he put it down legends. You know, somebody offered you their own sneaker. Did you have like a step On Marbury sneak? Yeah, we did want for the community, very cheap, you know, give it

to the kid. But now Kanye is killing them. If you would have your own sneak, a lie, like, what would you do it? It would be the hottest ship in the world. What we inspire to be? Who would you pick? I mean, I mean, I wouldn't say it because it's very smart. Man, so bad you're always doing sneaking? Can he'll tell me everything? Welcome to play a new podcast network featuring radio and TV personalities talking business, sports, tech, entertainment,

and more. Play it at play dot It. We're back to Drink Champs Radio with Rapper and R and d J. Then, so now let's just let's just we mind on everything. Probably the most fun I've ever had traveling was when Tras was hot. M hmm. Everybody's getting scared. It's pretty great. Yeah, everybody's everybody's scared any days was awesome. I can't talk about that. I didn't say you go talking about it. I didn't even ask the question. It was just a state miss. It was just but Tras is played out?

That is that bad? Is that good for the community? What do you mean? Tris is played out? People don't want to trust for the community, I believe. So everybody makes a noise for tri being dead. I'm gonna tell you when I got can see you, I'll tell you what. I stopped running track my personal story right I had I had to. I always had to write that was cool. But then one day I had three right, So I was like, you know, I'll bust like nuts and they

still want it more. I felt defeated. Oh you felt defeated. I felt defeated. All right, Well, what's different? You confusing both? The tris means like Nigga is running the train on a bit like one broad Managis is always just style, okay. Nag is always just stound, and you're tested as a man because one thing I noticed about women is that they can never have enough if you do it right now, not you can never have enough. You can never like they can never really tell you realistically and from the

bottom of their heart. You know, I'm tired. I quit. They gonna keep going forever a couple of but that day I feel like the man they go from. They go from like y'all they want to get pleased. Actually, now this ship has worked. This niggas fucking me seven hours. I'm working like I mean salary for this ship right here. So tras is the trains Mina's are different thing. It's always a beautiful. I'm gonna get your story one time. I never put this out this footage. I actually have

it on footage. One Jesus Tony sunshine, big fun. This is how that's how, that's how you know a big Pun was one of the greatest individuals in life. Pup Daddy pays me for a little Jerome. Remember a little Jerome back in the days. Well a little Jerome had did a blood money be so pup that he never pays good. But he pays but never pays good, but he pays. It's great. Pop hits me, says, I need

you to do this. Put a room. So I'm like, all right, cool, but like it's all one feet because you know, I was like, I'll do that for the song and then for the video. He's like, no, it's not how, it's not how Puff Daddy, it's all one feet Daddy, like a black jew gotta do you gotta do it. You gotta do it because daddy and never going front of Punt. You gonna go to his house for New Year. That makes up for every dance for everything. So bupa hits me and go all right. So now

I'm shooting a little Jamma video. This is the carbon. You remember the car. I remember carn got puffed at the carbon. So Pun says, yo cool, Nori. Let's tell Nori to come over here. So now Pun got fucked up earlier. Today, Puppa's like, make sure you're on time, please, Nori. We don't have this kid, don't got a budget. Pun makes called me. He goes, Yo, come over to the carbon where you Actually, I said, you sure you want

me to leave your video? Then Puppa's like parting with the slick and shooting my video and we just we just told him to leave. So I said, your punt, come over here. Punk comes over here. He brings Tony Sunshine and I forget what other two dudes, but I have it on camera one hundred percent. Remember I used to run around the camera. He was ahead of time. I was ahead of time. I was blogging before it was called blog blogging was blocked. So fun coms and

these two chicks they see him. He's like yo, Asian girl and a black girl. Right, So I got my Bronx people with me, but I got my Queen's people. They all know each other, all the like the hood niggers like, they all know each other. So they're like, yo, we go on the vands like get something just never kissed, even just was gay nothing. It's on camera. I could prove this they kissed somebody's wife, now moms or somebody. Yeah, that's why I even to put the job, to put

the job right. So whatever. Then they had we had a Queen's versus Bronx funk off, like whoever bust? What's the loser? But why you We're all in the Van Van and the fantastic, Yo, my dude, and like it's like putting in that work. But were you right next to you? So you shouldn't bust? Like it's just like yo, you holding down. He's like, yeah, I got the whole ship on film. So now it was a wonderful day.

It's a wonderful time. I don't know what pun yelled to, right, but they went and they got the super Squirts right, this is zero below degrees in New York City when he got the lords gun up the Supersquirts. What does New York City snow? I'm not I'm not talking about the Freshno, I'm talking about the snow where you see yellow ship in there and you see the black the black ship and they put the snow from the Super Squirted waited till it melted. The bitches, fuck the whole crew.

Why do we have to do anything. As soon as they came up, they squirted the midsy have it a film, and the bitches. This is back in the days. They didn't even care they was last. They felt like, yo, yall, there's the one of the wildest nights in my life. This is a long time ago. It's very long ago. Pun You don't pun uh. You know. I was the only nig to control him, so he would be ducking me and ship because this nigga niggas calling me the cops.

Cops was like, you know some niggas that was cool, and he was like, Yo, they're gonna lock that nigga, pun Up. I'm like what they say. He's shooting the old ladies coming out the supermarket with the super so so they go, y'all were in the hole. He's the only nigga with the six Honey great bands because we're gonna come. He's shooting the old ladies with the ship down the Soca and niggas like, yo, my nigga, he gonna go to jail for this. He's gonna be on the news. So I go over there. I gotta make

a movie. Scream at pun us loudest you can scream. Motherfuck. I'm telling you, Nicker like the nigga is crazy. Man. He was crazy. He was crazy. Rest in peace he was. He was um, well you pun. It was my first friends in hip hop. Damn. He was the first. That was Sellouise Scott. I was so gass because the first ship he said was Hellois Scott holding guns all met me though, he was like, I'm not sure what I got to tell him a story with me. I called him.

He was at the Puerto Rican Parade and I've seen him this the first time, and I helped him up. It was like thousands of niggas around me and helped them up. I don't remember remembering Tsunamia. So I helped the nigga up and I was like, Yo, what's up, nigga? Yo, we funk with you, nigga. We was hight right and then uh, but what he wants me to get that is he always said he's Spanish, but he'd be with black niggas and he looked black. So we never totally believed,

you know what I'm saying. So one day I met Chicago and the nigga called me up. He's like, Yo, you gotta show at how some blues. I said, yeah. He said, Yo, my my family want to come to the show. So I'm like, I ain't no question nor stand at the hotel. I'm in the hotel to the niggas meet me in the lobby. I meet him. Nigga come over with the Guaya better some gray Road and Nigga's like, hey, Jude, I am no brother. I'm like, what is like? Bobby? I was like, what the fuck

is really? I might have called Nigga jod this nigga. He wasn't frying. I'm looking at the port of niggas. He's really the real Porto Ricans came in Chicago, right. That was crazy. That was very funny, man, That was very funny. That was crazy, my niggah. So so so let me ask you something. Right, all the thing about you is what people don't understand about you is you're actually a lyricist m hm, Like you make party records.

But even in your party record, like I told us, I said, Joe is one of my top friends of all time, but when it comes time to do a feature for me, he's like the worst less but not because he's not gonna do it. Is he takes his time with something like you actually do, Like I know you never dissed me, Like you're my brother, Like you know what I'm saying. I eat in your crib, my crib all the time with our families. You're my brother, so it's not But you're like, do you think you're perfectionists?

Definitely a perfectionist with everything. Sometimes you know the way ship move nowadays, Um, niggas get mad at how I am because I like to roll it out right, you know what I'm saying, And that's key to a lot of ship. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm right. Maybe I ain't the smartest nigger, but I want to make sure

ship gets its bucked for his money. What everything we do, you know what I'm saying, Like, um, with these young kids i'm working with right now that the first niggas I funk, within years they got fire and I'm still like, Yo, we need more, we need more because you can't make the first impression twice and then wrap wise. I ain't gonna lie to you. No matter who I wrap with, I try to take their head off. It's just a fact. I gotta go in and you know, you invite me,

and it's very scared because fat jokers. People probably probably don't think he's the best rapper in the world. But hold on, I'm just saying. People probably don't think I'm the best rapper in the world, but I'm like the Mexican nigga. You don't want to fight in the Boston ring because he's not going down. He's a hell of a fight. Like he's one of the niggas that you

know you're scared to fight. You're scared to fight him because you know he's gonna go You're gonna have to kill his nigger in the ring, you know what I'm saying. So that's how it is with raps, because when you invite me to it, you know, and the worst nigger was punned. You know what I'm saying. What problem was going for nigga's heads? Man since pun died? Who was like a person that you did a record with and you was like, man, let me be on my best,

best best everybody everybody. I tell my son that, But it's not like just one person. Everybody. Everybody. Every time I go into booth, All right, let me tell you a secret. I'll tell you in front of the whole world that I never told nobody, the whole world listening for the whole world listening. Goddamnit like that, Thank you very much. Every night my whole career, every night I

got in the studio to this night. You know, I never know if I'm gonna die when I leave the studio, So when I do my work in the studio, I go the hardest I could go in history when I work on my music, because if I die, no, that's the only thing that's gonna remind people for years and years, twenty thirty years later that I put it down. Now, if you want to say fat job, you want me to tell you how I really feel. I feel like I'm one of the most underrated rappers of all time.

And that's why I'm been in the game this long and I still make music. And every time, like every time, I'm like a little kid waiting for his fall on Christmas. I'm waiting for niggas to finally give it up. And they act like his luck. Then you've been in the game for twenty years, they act like his luck that you put out ten fifteen top number five records in the world. So Villians, they act like this ship like

you know, he's just a lucky nigger. You understand what I'm saying, but it takes it takes, you know, dedication to that. So like with this album with Remy, I'm spitting my asshole and I'm like, maybe this time they're finally listen to me, like, you know, because right now it's a little different me. I'm a little older. You know what I'm saying, I'm a veteran. The young niggas don't look at me as a threat no more. I'm not saying physically, they just don't look at me. It's

like I'm their competition. So now they're able to say, you're my nigga, we love your ship. You know, you're a vat, You're funk with you nigga, you a legend. Before it was more like they were scared to tell me that because they felt like we were still competing. The thing they don't know is that we really still competing. I love that, love the album we got. We compete.

So on this album right here, I'm spitting my ass off so that maybe just maybe niggas could look and listen to this album and be like, oh this nigga crazy. One more, what's the one record that a producer played for you and you didn't fun with Oh you're crazy and the record that you just said, Rihanna, you fucked up my thing. When you know I put it out there that I could have signed him and them six times. No, that's a fact. I've never heard this story to us.

It's out there. Point at when I went to Eminem, we went we we was having dinn one day. He was like, yo, Joe Crack, you know I gave you my demo six times. I said, what this is? After he's the high Remember he didn't remember where before before, so the nigga turned a run. He was like, I gave it to you, and how can I be down? I gave it to you, Jack the Rapper, I gave it to you in that land. I gave it to you in Jersey when I was with the Outsiders, I

gave it. He knew every time he gave me his demo, and I was like, Jesus Christ, I could have had him. And then but the record. I sat in the house for Salon Rey and Uh and he made Fuji Lave for me, Fi the Fuji la and then and I sat he made it for me in this living room and I was there with him for hours and then he was like, yo Joe. Like a week later, he was like, yo Joe, you um you want this record? And I was like, no, I'm good. He was like, you want this record. I was like, no, I'm good.

And then it was Fuji law know my record was I got another one bigger than that. I'm gonna give. Let me just tell you because I have the same exact story. Track Masters was in the studio with me and they made no no that y'all man with y'all, and I was like, you know, I told him I didn't even want it, but I was still, man, you probably wanted to vombit, you know, I was, I'm gonna

tell you my story. Yeah, she Scott started me. Our chemistry was like if I knew what I knew now, then I probably would have been the richest nigger in the world. Because I worked with Scott Storch five times. All five songs went number one in America. It's just the bottom line. Every time I sat down with the nigger, we made the number one. Right. If I knew that now, I would have had fifty songs with Scott at that time.

I would have I would have another left. I would have been on the nigga, breathing on the nigga, like, Yo, Scott, let's do another one, you know, Scott, Let's do a nothing right. So I come and I make um uh um what is it um, Candy shot. I made that be do do do do do do do And then and he was going out where he was going out way with uh with with uh with with little Kim. So the way I make beats with with with with with with Scott's he could play whatever. So I would

tell him boomping and pam boom boomping and pam. That's how I made mean back boom boom boom. And he just did whatever I said, like I could damn their beat box it and he played. So we made Candy shot the crazy ship is. I don't want my wife to uh to kill me. But we had little Kim up in there, moving him in there. We was doing the beat to this pitch. She was doing a little boom, Yo, he gotta be more Arabic. We gotta do yo. We got a little Kim up in there doing the Arabic

dac ship. So then the nigga, I'm gonna keeping a buck with y'all nobody. I don't even know if I can keep it too much a buck. But what I can say is we did it. But that was right after lean back. It would have been your money gets head, and some of my niggas and my crew convinced me not to do it. It was like, you know, sound like me back, mother, you keep going with Scott starts. I should have been like, yeah, every time I would have his number one, my son do this one, and

I picked the other ship. I know you've been searching for someone instead of that ship. So Scott might have called me, I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna keep it a buck. Scott called me maybe fifty times in a row. I had no beef for fifty seconds, so I had no beef for him at the time. You know that was my next question called me, let's just say forty times. You sure you don't want that beat? Everybody says they

hit Joe fifty centers in the here right now. He wants to pay me whatever on earth for this ship. Are you sure, Joe? I won't give him the beat? Joe, this is your beat? Like he would not stop calling, like, are you sure, Joe? You don't want this ship. I'm like, no, I don't want Yo Joe like it was just O D. And I was like no, no, no, I'm good that ship was like number one in the universe after after it was you know he told you to him selling that he told you before he didn't give up the song.

I told him, I ain't want it. You know what I'm saying, My artist, I wish I would have signed, would have to be hands down for a rout like I don't. I don't. I can't tell you that. Forrell told me to sign him, but he said, could you shot my beats? This one of real story. I went to bring I went to bring him to see Nas. At the time, Me and No was mad cool like Nas. He didn't know how to roll like so he was. He did not have rolled the blood. I don't neither.

I wrote the worst blunts in the world. But we're gonna smoke. Don't judge me, you know what I'm saying. So not gonna be curved. I'm a little pregnant blunt ship, you know, uncircumcised ship, you know what I mean. But um so he asked me to um to shop it. So I went bring it to Naas and he made m oh baby you want me, Oh baby, you want me. I wanted that be so bad, he said. After you heard it, he said, y'all made it for NAS. I said, damn, I'm not a hater. He's my brother I brought into nas. Uh.

He actually played it. Nas loved it in the studio. As soon as he left. I said, Yo, why your man shirts so tight? You know, I was discouraged skills. I was like, I know that, Like this wasn't like we made super dumb dope. We got to nor moons in the country, like this thing is doing way first. No friend ship, but he was the first one though, so yeah, so and that would be my that would be my um you know because again for Chad rob Walker, they never said sign me, but they said shop my beats.

So to me, the same shot like you know me and you will fall from from the same tree where we helped a lot of people get recognition, getting the game, and all we wanted to TV to slept on my couch to meet with was college. But he also was yeah a little bit. What in New York City watched my drawers? I mean, I'm I was from at the time. Let me stop. That's my brother. That's true. He had little he's not doing that. He come on, my star

that he's a good guy. Let's leave. Shows you the progression. Great, it's true, it's true. True, it's not just facing its yelling floor as he also general fat Joe's not cold. Sign it's nothing. He's my brother. He knows just you know, it's true. It's true. You got it all. Guys, got it all. See you said it you crazy. You gotta yo. If already don't like me anyways, come on, I don't think, but I'm just But he's my god brother. You know, we got a lot of piece of ship, piece of brothers.

You got a lot of you got a lot of people. That got a lot of people because you like, you're not kind. It's like, but it's still family. Find that the you gotta find the the good in people. Neative. That's what my father used to say. My father to say, when you see people, see the good in them first, and then you see the bad. Yeah, you know I got her. Uncle. He lied. It's a lot like he's a pathological lying, Like like if this summer, he'll tell

you it's winter. You know, like the Nigga just lying. Lots of friends like Nigga just gonna stop lying to the point of view like, yo, you cannot be serious about this, like you're lying like all of them. I gotta pull him to the side. But the new thing I don't I do with him because he's my he's my uncle, he's my blood. I love him, one of my favorite You know, now when he lies, I'll be like, you know where he's lying. No, I'll tell you in

they face, in his face, he knows. My new ship is to really try to stop him from line is like, oh no, he's lying. We didn't go there. We just came from this. Nigga is lying, all right, And I love him. He's really my uncle. Don't look at him crazy because he really is my uncle. He's a fucking liar, but simple, let me ask you a question. You and he has so much great quality other than the line. So if he didn't lie all the time, be the

best thing in the world. So that's the water show he pleased, no disrespect, Actually not, it's not water, Joe drink. So me and you we have a lot like the same thing with good people. We see the good people. We just want everybody to win. That we hope that when they do win, they don't forget where they came from and they will always be there for us. And so like he's so nor so full of ship bro

Nori goes. He says, I come to my podcast one day, A Nori, I mean he comes in the studio last night, stops the studio right and starts playing music and starts telling everybody how his best friend in the world. But I'm the worst nigger to ask for first in his life. But he's subliminally left the track there through the battery in my back to where it's day. Guess what I'm gonna being, So listen, listen again. I know I said it earlier, but I feel like we should praise praise

people while they're here. Joe has always been there for me, just for people that know I'm to when I'm to the worst of the worst, the best of the best in between. You know what I'm saying. And I say that I say that too, like I remember like like like job, job is my brother. But it was rough

being a job. Rule remember from at one point, I remember walking with jar Roll in the mall and people going you and running though but this is before Twitter, you know what I'm saying, Like right now, people people would do it like this. But I remember one time, like we were hanging out and I was like, I was going to the mall. He was like, well, I can't doing ship, but mind you, he's the biggest. Like I'm okay, I can't walk around right, I'm okay, yeah,

why didn't give you a ba? And then it was like I'll go with you, Like I know he's whatever. He's fifty number one hit, but fifty is killing him on the streets and in the radio. He's the biggest thing and alive. So we walk into the mall and I'm chilling. You know, it's nothing. This is my brother. I ain't thinking nothing of it. I just heard you bet and I'm like the first time. I'm like, I'm gonna act like I ain't hear that one. You feel me, because I'm like, you do that for me, So just

keep walking. This is my homie. That keep I heard it again. Now this time this is Whens come down. You know, you know when that one pieces Ruin's doing, he just kept walling. He ignored the first one too. We both ignored the first one. Kept it moving. But the second one was like and you can tell it was like a white boy. He was just a fan and just wanted to say, let's just say just let's just say my point is I you supposed to. Now, let's let's just say that's what real friends do, and

this business is built on fake friends. So let's just keep it a thousand. So they say the real recognize the real. The truth is we gotta flip that around and say the fake recognized the fake, because if you're real in this industry, then it's almost like you got aids. There ain't no realness in this ship. Just know that, right, So we celebrate the real. But it's hard because if you analyze the ship they'll be going on, you can't make no sense of it. Right, So let's just say

DMX probably had it the worst hold on DMX. Probably DMX has demons. DMX has been using and abusing drugs. He almost died, supposed to he almost died. Do you know he almost died? Last week? I sent the pastor to us all spool I was. You said, I passed it to his hospital. You send the passage to his hospital. That's like a whole other podcast. By itself, because you know what, I wanna be honest with you. You know what can say? You know what you say. It's a fact.

Who's a pause. Let me tell you I was I was spoken with with DMX one night, four o'clock in the morning. First of all, I gotta record from when he was ten million, when he was ten million, I gotta reckor with DMN. I can't say I'm not I'm listening coming no more. I know I'm gonna get in trouble and all the blogs I'm fucking with y'all. I'm not y'all get it all out. Listen to one time. This is one. I said, ya, gotta you got, you gotta hit my DMAX story. Now I gotta. I gotta

hold long, yo, Joe. This nick is sold ten million. At the time, he was his managers Ali Ali is my flat. Ali went on tour with me. He did everything. This is my ball. But Ali used to sell rims and queens. That's how we know him from back in the day. He used to work queens and that Muslim militia many family, So check it. I'm one death game. So I called death Jam and I said, Yo, I need you have to book my flight, um to go see DMX. I'm gonna fly on Monday and I'm gonna

return on Wednesday. So Tina Davis, who is Chris Brown's manager, Tina Davis called me and says, nobody does the record with the dog Daddy easy for mind you. I see DMX in River Park towers four o'clock in the morning. Nigga is up go infrigerators. You know, were towers in the Bronx. By the way, this is not Queens. I got family and cousin, Damon and Lea. Do you understand how if that sounds when a fuckingfrigerator drops and these

niggas is just standing around. This is what they do for fun, right, The MX come through there at four o'clock in the morning. I see Nigga's gonna try bottom line, No, that's not happening. I'm gonna die just to make sure he's good. Me and X is good. He got sold Tim Mayne at this time. This is the hottest thing in the world. So I say I'm going to l A. It's the first thing of the Drop two albums. This is this is this first week like disgusting ship he

was doing. I told you about that met the man too. I told you, I've been trying to school my son about them. So look, ship boy, So I told Jim David said to me, who is christ Brown manager? Now? I think or used to. But she says to me, nobody flies into l A on Monday, records with DMX on Tuesday, and it flies out on Wednesday, Nori. And I'm like, I'm Nori. I'm like, I'm like, you crazy man. She was right, hold my, hold on, wait till I go with this. I didn't even see this nig until

Thursday at Oh, we're in the same hotel. We both got the president who sweeps in the w and Westwood. He got the he got the two door one. I got the other one with the one door. Right, I don't even see this nig right your next door, to this next store, to this nigger. Al Right, this naga knocks on my door four o'clock in the morning, Thursday morning, four o'clock, which means that's seven am, New York time. Knock on my door. But your dogs, you're ready, dog?

So I'm like, ship, hell, yeah, ready, I know what this is. Sing record too. It's not like a Norriy Records seeing then this is this is the hood, the hood. I gotta get this ship done. He didn't knock on compone door. He knocked on my door. So, yo, let me tell you what you Nory was already platinum, yes, but yeah, but I had to get the job. This is this is what your man had to do. Listen what I had to do. The nigga walks works me up,

We go downstairs, got six cars downstairs. Four days later, so I got this is this is this four days it's Thursday. I flew out Monday and see the nigga to Thursday. At four o'clock in the morning, which it's technically Friday, the niggas six cars is downstairs. I'll tell my niggas where your wake up, bring the car out. My car comes out. He's like, no, no, no, no, you're driving with me. Something I heard about this nigga with just driving ship. Fucking slime. This is what you

gotta do. This is what you gotta do, right, this is what you shut the funk up. Yo. If anybody ever went stayed at the W Hotel in Westwood, we drove six cars, right plus my two from the W Westwood all the way around right to Ralph's parkingt line, which like we could have walked there. So he went around the old just to go to right across the street the park. But he's a drive right. He wants to drive there. He doesn't want to walk there, so

we pull out God goes you like cars. I'm like, he pulls out like seven thousand dollars worth, like the real expensive control cars. So I'm like, ship, but what I'm gonna say. I don't want to do this. I need this verse. So I'm sitting there with the moking cars after like I hate the Moki So I'm like, cool, I did it. Boom. He just drives off. It's so over. Never see him again, right boom. The next day he

hits me, let's go. NOI I'm like, it's gonna happen, mind you, devil Jam's calling me every day we got the session locked out, three thousand dollars a day for Monday definitely has like yo. I'm like, now I can't, but I don't want to tell them they were right. So I'm like, chier, chip, just chick, just chill. Ship. This motherfucker's like, yo, let's go, let's go. He took me to Dublins. Now I didn't. I didn't know at

the time Dublins was a fucking pool hall. All right, I'm thinking Dublins might be the studio he was going to buy. You've never seen the studio playing three racks. Every day we went, he goes to pool, the second favorite thing I hate in life. I don't play fucking pool. Playing pool. I'm sitting there acting like I like pool again. Fucking Sunday morning, we're just hanging out. I still don't get the verse, but he's hanging with me. I know

he's not this and me. Some random dude just walks on the street was like, y'all do your Max was like, what dog is that? I got a studio right here? He said, you're Norri. Look at that. We got a guy with the studio Ida down, y'all gotta do it. He just loved your colleg He's just like, yes, Joe, excuse you know. He met somebody off the fucking random and we're gonna use this studio like the dog. He's like, you, that's what you've been looking for, right, I said, Dog,

I had the studio book since Monday. We're going there. You know, here's the crazy ship. The nigga started laying his verse. He's killing it. Me and Paul looking at each other like we got it. All of a sudden, the music is just dead right, and nobody's in the studio saying nothing. So we're sitting I'm sitting around, you know me, I'm like, I'm a control freak. I'm sorry. I can't help it. So I'm like, yo, yo, what's up? Like everybody's did. I'm saying that I'll open this ship.

This nig is laid out, not out, yo. Everybody's like, yo, nobody wakes, nobody fox with the dog while sleep. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I just paid this loot nigga too paid. Listen. I paid the whole week and I just paid the nigga because I'm like, he's like, y'all do it for you for for him, Like now he fell out and need all my file? How many how many? Boss? He was like he was like six and a half. Damn damn that you know. I mean, that was but let

me tell you, let me tell you real quick. The nigga. We are Jimmy's cafe. The nigga DMX come up in there. He sees Tony Sunshine and the nigga had like a love fest. Oh my god, Sunshine, I love you. I'm nig doing he's doing all that ship. So we're in the bathroom. We're in the bathroom, in the bathroom, Jimmy's cafe, Jimmy, Oh, I gotta work with you, y'all. The ship, y'all, y'all, nor me, I gotta work with you, same ship. Right. So this is DMX exactly what you're talking about. Nigga

was selling a million records a week. Nigga like at of this world me you know Tony sound I mean, I'm like, yo, great, Like, let's work like you know what you want to do. I fly Tony to l a ok. I gotta hear this story. Same exactly ship, Tony hanging out with the nigga. In fact, I think I took I sent Tony and Macho Tony and Macho to get it done. And you know, Macho really trying to get it done. Is like, y'all, he ain't happy,

he don't like nothing. So the nigga calling me back every day, he's like, y'all being this nigga got us on the front of that this, this, this, this the nigga Tony Sunshine, they find the least same ship. I think that was his gimmick. A week later, nigga got them. Niggas was in that lane. Like a week later, the nigga Macho called me. He's like, yo, Crack, you ain't gonna be leave this ship. God, I said, what happened? He said, the nigga started rapping and went to sleep. No,

I swear to God. And I was like, I was, I was like what he said, Yo, that nigga out, Like if the nigga hit him with a hammer and niggas was talking the same ship the dog, nobody waked the dog right now, I'm a nigga. I tried, alright. The scary thing about this story is that these stories is in music until you're not a bread maker. When you were bread making somebody like Rest in Peace, Whitney Houston.

They was letting her get the way with because he just worked for them, and they're scared to tell him, like, Yo, chill, you're bugging out because check. Yeah, but I mean, but it's how good is your check if you're letting if you work for Fat Joe and you're letting him kill himself deteriorate himself and you're thinking about your check right now. But at the end of the day, all checks is gone when I'm gone, and it's an en neighboring. This ship is crazy and let me get back. Let me

just tell you the reason why. Um, because my grandmother had passed away. And my grandmother passed away. A pastor he was out there, he was he was listen, this is a side, but the past he was like that. He was like the hip hop pastor. Like he was quoting versus that my grandmother's fucking funeral and like, you know, you don't have fun at the funeral. Like I'm looking up. He was quoting lines, hip hop lines. And I was like, yo, I said, Yo, give me your number. I said, yo,

I'm gonna need you. No, I told him I'm gonna need him for I was gonna put him on a drunk project. But then I thought about I was like, I'm way too negative, you know, the squeeze and something. I need this thing. But I help me because I could get the negga to talk some ship when where he's just chalking the ship. And so look, so now let me tell you, now, get shot at the one time. So look one time we're all in l A. We're

smoking weed but don't drinking whatever. And in the middle of all that, DMX said, Yo, can your brothers doing favor? Can you put all that down and pray? And he want to do that? And he arrest you that to me every time I I don't you want to pray? Yeah? Yeah, so I think it. Maybe he hear it from somebody else shot him. This is one and you're my friend of me. Never speak about this. We ain't never speak about this is real. I love DMX. He knows I love him. So every time I said, we gotta pray, man,

you know, he prays for me. Man, but I don't understand, Like, um, I don't you know. I don't get it. Man, He's a complicated dude, and it's like it's sad man because people really love him. Sometimes people love you and you deal with so many demons and depression, but they can't even affect you with like sometimes I'm having a shitty day and even if I'm fat, Joe and Nigga said, Yo, I love you. Your music is great. I still feel like ship. You know what I'm saying. So people gotta

deal with their own things, their own way. Um, but when you got drugs involved, it's yeah, so we gotta just pray, we gotta. I had a pastor when I lived in the projects and ship and the nigga would always talk to me and then we just wild niggas and ship before rap music and all that. And the nigga would talk to me and pray all the time.

He was also the uh work for housing that he was the sweep and you know, custodian nigga, right, so he would always talk to me and Joey, you know, you need to change your life and this and this and at and what was crazy is the time when I had got shot and I got shot maybe fifteen blocks from my my block, like I wasn't around my hood.

But while I'm laying, you know what I'm saying, getting shot, laying the fucking pastor who used to work in my projects, as I'm running this ship like that, he's out there praying for me. Like the nigga literally is like I see him, Like I'm like, what the fund the pastor doing over here? Joey trying to come to God. You know I was out there praying, you know, I was out there praying, right so I'm like, yeah, Pastor. You know, I'm always been a respectful nigga and ship, so I'm like, yeah,

it passed the boom. So I remember one time, Um, the police were so mad at me. To this day, they're still mad, like because they couldn't catch me. So they were here, shots fired, fat nigger with red hoodie, you know, like they knew what was going on. They just couldn't pin it on the nig and they were just so fucking eat it right. So I'm in. One time we had some beef and were standing in front of the building that we strapped, I mean like super strapped right, We're ready to go down right, and we

got no clue. We just talking about how we're gonna go over here and do our business whatever. So the pastor come over. You gotta see. He said, Yo. Joey said, don't look, don't act like you're talking to me. I said, Yo, what's south pastor? And we act like we talked. He was like, there's so many cops on both sides of this building there about the rush, y'all. This is the pastor. I don't even think he ain't supposed to do that, right when you in church supposed to do that. He's

supposed to listen. If you want to relate to the community, you got to be a part of the community. You gotta be a bottle. Yo said, this nigga tells me right, So I'm like, word, He's like, yo, there there on that side and that side. So this nigga I was cool with. It's a real passing. This nigga I was cool with. Live on the first floor. I ain't gonna give him no props to give him say his name, but I'll tell niggas. It was like three of us had hammers. I was like, yo, and like the counter.

Three nigga we booking and we're diving in Homeboys window. Nigga. So my nigga, we just said we went. We took off. We all jumped in the window, right, so we shut the window down. You hear the cops like one minute where they go because everybody else ran, but we got away. We at the hammers, but we under the window like a movie, like the windows over us and we're like and you hear these niggas. It was like t cops and both like how did these niggas get away? Right?

They're bugging out there on both sides. So I ran around this building. They catched me on this side. They're bugging out, like how did niggas get away? Right? So we're sitting up there. My man's mom's her name was Cheeky Dina. I never forget. She came over to me. She was like, she sounds gangster, she said in Spanish. She told me in Spanish, but I'll tell you in English. She was like, you guys are bringing me eat to my house. Yo, smut yo, Like you're making my ship.

HU should call the cover was like, please don't call it goss. You motherfucker's This was like, please don't say that. But we got away with it. We can never jump in the window him in the past to help me get away. That's right, clipping Howard how Daniels is is our pastor? That I said, absolutely, man, because you know what I believe in, what religion you believe for your religion? If you felt you were sending what he preferred into

he was saying you what you're saying. He he prayed for me like this Source Awards weekend in l A. When we was on that ship, like nigga work, like you know what I mean? Like I'm from New York. I'm gonna I'm gonna leave with my jury, Like that's my world. That's that's that's that's how I felt at

that time. So my mind frame, he's also he also saved me, like when we landed, when we landed, Yeah, when we landed, we've seen Eve and all this ship like so we're out there and we've seen like bitches like you know, like wrap bitches, and they funk with me. I got to you know, I got that record out that super Dog was killing them. So I'm thinking, is love? It's not love. I think that d Mexican came to my man. This is one of the percent real story.

He said, the dogs gotta watch the dog. So if the dogs is what the dogs, then the dogs ain't gonna month trying the dog. So if the dogs always around the dogs, the dogs stay with the dogs and the dog can never come around by itself. The nigga as my people's five. So as he walked away, I'm like this nigga certified crazy. My man from the box um Ronald joining is his real name, is my brother. He said, I understood everything I said what he said.

He said, he said, look nor like the Rappers the target make and then me and Poem Poem rented Jag, I rented the porch and then we rented like a fifteen passenger van to stay behind us, feel me. So the dog said, make sure the dogs is always around the dog. Don't never let the dog come out by itself, which meanings, don't let the nigga walk by something like it doesn't matter, like nor's a real nigga. Poem is

a real nigga. But they got jury on. That's what it's going to attract to them, you know what I mean? Like I was like wow when I deciphered it, I was like, this nigga is mad smart, like he's super smarter. Then they give him credit for. Then with people give him credit for like you know what I'm saying and super hood. Welcome to play a new podcast network featuring radio and TV personalities talking business, sports, tech, entertainment, and more. Play it at play dot It. We're back to Drink

Champs Radio with Rapper and R and d Jes. Then, first of all, I want to thank you man, you know what I'm saying. Hey, yo man, this was a long podcast. Yeah yeah, no, no, no longer because but you already say you're not coming back. You gotta call this ship like the Bible with some ships like chapters of the let's go here for back to you before you bounce. I got something personal. This is personal ship. So you know, as Latinos, we grew up and we

we grasped it, like we said, Luis got you. We're grasping onto that as Latinos so and then as Latinos, then we sub grasp I'm Cuban, I'm Puerto Rican, I'm Dominican. Then we're trying to find those cats in the game. So you pot but then I find out, let me find out, I'm Cuban. Factios have Cuban. You should have known that from day one. No. I knew that early on, but it wasn't representing the music. I was like, really, I don't know how to represent Cuban in the music.

So so what's the story behind that? Is my question? Because the only way I'll break it all down to you, right um, the only way to break it down to you is if we did Cuban, we would have to do come on, everybody want you to do that, come come on, like that's what it would be. My nigga. So it's like, but is there a reason, like is it? Is it? Like? No, your family is really when you grew up, what happened is my father's Cuban, my mother's

Puerto Rican. My Cuban side of my family was from Miami, was from like jer they was Jersey then they moved to Miami. So I grew up with the Puerto Ricans mostly, like really with the Puerto Ricans, with my mother, my father and everything. But I never denied that I was Cuban in any way, shape or form. But I screamed Puerto Rico so loud that Cubans didn't see it. But if you go back to when I came out and you read, hey there's a new rapper on the set.

He's Puerto Rican and Cuban from day one, know not go catch it the internet somebody like for example Killer like Curious George when he said I'm half Castro, half whatever, like he said it in a line and I didn't know what he meant. No, I knew it because I'm Cuban. And when it was saying Cuban Spanish like they was

hill Cuba, yes, and I thought there was Mexican. I thought he was originally from the same hood and I'm originally from l A so, but when they were speaking Spanish and they had that song, I forget the Latin link and there wasn't that legal the other record on the on their album, they were saying sing guy and this and that, and it was like, you're Cuban, like we knew it as Cubans. I'm like the Mexican they killed, breaking news. I just found out that the Cuban Yeah, yeah,

it was Mexican. Was was Cuba brother dog and then be real, I think he's half Cuban half Mexican. I think, well, me personally, I get a little I'm glad we had this conversation, but I get slightly offended because I know I've been representing the Cubans since even even some me and you had I've been representing Cuban since day one.

So my thing is, well, document meant it like if you go back to my interviews from day one to be like, fa the Cuban mother Puerto Rican, right, But I did grow up with my Puerto Rican side more um uh so I always wrapped Cuban. I have brothers and sisters from Cuba. I brought back nine brothers and sisters from Cuba over here. Um, you know, I don't even know how to think. While they were there, I was supporting them, building homes for them, thinking so they

can live, like you can't keep it. Really, to me, my father's Cuban. The worst kind of Cuban you can have. Like he'll argue with you politically for ten hours, like you know my family. So you know, I always bugged out when I bumped into a Cuban and they was telling me like, yo, I ain't know you was Cuban. I was like, so you I see that early on. I was like, you ain't paying attention. You ain't paying attention,

Maybe not when you said it originally. Nine, So let's just say so you know you meant like why we didn't say Cuban so called Cuban link, right, but Cuban link. He wanted to wrap humans And you don't really want to hear that. You really didn't want to hear. Come on, everybody want to do that. Come if we want to let that nigga go, If we wouldn't let that nigga go either, throwing the g like you my nigga, we

te squad soft throng killing niggas like stop. He really wanted to be the first pit bull to be honest with you. He wanted to thought with the shirt. He wanted to do that bad and we was like, Yo, my nigga, we killed I remember me, and pun used to argue with this thing, Yo, what the funk you're doing? What is this? But you know we can't. We made music for everybody, so you gotta you gotta know that we make music for everybody. So hip hop itself is

a subculture, a sub religion, right. I don't really get offended when white people say, nigga, that's a hip hop fan. I really don't, cause they're white niggas, but because hip hop is one you know what is like a religion. I don't feel like, you know, a motherfucker, you gotta to be Spanish, you gotta be black, you gotta be white, you gotta be Chinese, you gotta be I just feel like, be proud of who you are, rep who you are, but make music for everybody. And that's some of the

problems we've had with Latino rappers. You know what I'm saying. Like me personally, I don't know how they ain't more successful Latino rappers because we put the blueprint out there. We've been from the beginning. No, no, no, hip hop is not black. Music is black and Latino music originally from the beginning day one. No not, that's not the discussion. I'm saying Fat Joe Big pun. No, we put the

blueprints like, of course cypress, but I'm saying cypress. So what I'm saying there, we took the blueprint right, like just keep it real. But it's out there. So what's the excuse is sip and says they're performing for white people. Black people. Try how can I kill a man? But the nigga want to come. I ain't want to make straight Latino music. I sit down, especially West Coast Latino rappers whenever I sat down with them and I have one on one with them, because I always want to

give nigga's knowledge. I sit down, be like, Yo, Poppy, I know you Mexican. We want you to wrap Mexican, but make music for everybody. Nah, but you gotta be the biggest nigga. I mean, I think if there was a fly, handsome Mexican nigga spitting that ship, just spitting that ship. Black girls, white girls, everything would fucking love this nigger. You understand what I'm saying. So it couldn't. It shouldn't be a barrier. You shouldn't. You shouldn't enclose

yourself to a certain category. And that's how you know. I always approached the game and me also, I came from a neighborhood there was ninety nine point nine black. So it's so imagine if you see a pack of black lions or black panthers in the in the jungle and this nigga non stop calling broke. You see a pack of black panthers and you see one white panther with them. That was always sad Jaw, the only Spanish white nigga with blonde hair with five hundred black niggas

just walking through. And he was the only for the weekend. And I was the only queen's dude in the Bronx. That's true. People used to be like, why are you here? Why not? I used to like, why are you sure you okay? I'm I'm just tendent, Like what the fun was he doing? Now? But now that's just the way. That's the way I was raised. So I was raised in the community where it was all black, you know what I'm saying, And so um it was like, you know, like I consider myself black too. Like as weird as

it sounds, I'm proud to be Lapino. I waived the worried about it. You know what I'm saying. I'm serious, like I'm black. It's weird because I tell black people that all the time and they'll be like, yo, what do you mean, Like Nika, I'm black nigger. Like what you, I'm blacker than you because you want to be a black white guy. I'm standing this black nigga. You understand what I'm up. Hell yeah, Harvard black nigga, nigger. I'm

black nigga. To me, I had it worse because like I would hang out with the with the with the black people. Then I would go with the bato Ricans and they go to the money, and then I had to go to Then I gotta go with the black people and they got the spects and it was like and you in the middle, in the middle, like I'm no, no, I want to tell your story. The land King's right, I mean, I'm jan in jail right. The Latin kids, they they they doing some ship for the dentists. Right,

I'm in jail right. What they're doing for the dentists know that what they're doing, No, they're fucking they're recruited every Spanish person in the unit. But what they're doing is saying that you got to go to the dentist in jail. Right. So these dudes come and they're like, Victor Santiago. So I stand up for the people who don't know that's that's my name, super all right. So I stood up and the dudes like, not you, at you, so stat back down. Then they go Victor Santiago and

I'm like yeah, I'm not gonna keep standing up. And then they're like but not you, not you right time? Like but this, I'm like, yo, I'm not standing up again, and like your victorsn't young. That's my name. So like the guard, the CEO, Nigga was down with the he was a Latin kings king. So they pulled me in. The dentists put all razors to me like yo, you Cuban. I'm like no, you're like Dominican. I'm like no, You're like, well, what the funk are you? Why the fund is your name?

Victor Santiago. So I'm like yo, I'm for the weekend in black. They're like, damn, you can't really be down with us, they said, but they got the razors to me. I can't do nothing. They actually set me up where like you know what you're sitting and didn't move, kid move. So I'm like, they said, so this is what we're gonna do. We're gonna make you at neat. I had never heard they said we're gonna make you a net because they think they see my sheet. My sheet was clean.

But I'm trapped. It's nothing I can do. It doesn't matter what you get out of it. So they're like, we're gonna make you a net. And I said, Yo, my dude, I'm that new truth. People like I'm both, I can't listen. I go to the yard. I love handball. I'm sorry, I'm nice. Beat me in handball. No, I never hated that. You never never handball. And in his death was like, yo, I had to get my rematch. Like when he died, I was like, yo, I'm needed my rematch. Like you know, Fat Niggas is the best

niggers in handball. I don't know if you know that Edy gigs in fact, and he's great in me and you will play handball. We got serious at one point, came out of jail and they said, Yo, we gotta play handball, and we went somewhere out here. People don't

know this about me. I'm actually I thought I was a handball expert until, like anybody that's like, like Pun beat me in the handball, I never, like, I never actually forgave him superhuman even in death, I'm like, I still need like like a god bless because you know, hopefully ill, you know whatever. But when we see each other that happen, That's probably the first thing I'm gonna say to him. Rematch him? How it's gonna go? Yeah,

I love you? How's it having rematch? Immediately? I want to, like, all right, so listen that being said, we all we all Latin knows. I want to end it on who's your favorite Latino besides Pun, besides Nori, besides Joe because it would be unfair. So my favorite Latino? Who hit me? Good? Fross favorite? When I heard this is you thought he was dope different. I'm sorry. Pick up the school Devil. His school Devil is a legendary, but that was Scoop de Ville was my favorite. I knew Kid Fross since

I started. He was on relativity to get out of here, and yeah, I couldn't rules and I couldn't. Really you didn't get what kid from now because he was like I met the real kid Frost and I was just like different person. We don't know this story. He was trying to let you go, but now you gotta you already it's already wet, you gotta go. I couldn't do that. But all I can say is that back to the West Coast, they looking ship different than we look at it.

So you know what I'm saying I'm hanging out with. I'm gonna just say you the miniature version of it because I wouldn't do that. But he comes to New York, so I'm like, Yo, I gotta salute the Mexican homies is So I take me Jimmy's cafe and we walked down the block all all you know, as we're walking out, everybody like, yo, crack with something, Yo crack, what's up? What's up? So up? So I'm walking up, dapping everybody and we walked like half a block. He sist, Yo, Joe,

can they talk to you? Homes not kid for us I'm where him. I got him in New York. Feeding him will be chilling, brothers. I'm doing any funk with the black guys. Yeah, that's the that's the problem. I'm like, I'm like what he's like, No, man, I see you talking to all these guys. I'm bucking out. I'm like, Yo, no nigger. And that was a once in a life. You know, we hung out one time. He probably over there saying funk fat joe Yango with the black guys.

I couldn't, you know, but you know I couldn't. Spanish dudes. They influence me, Um, not influence you or even just you think that it's it's hard or hot. The hardest niggas ever, the hardest niggas ever. Um. Somebody who impressed me, can I say to ye? And I always say him. But somebody who impressed me at a young age who was a fly nigger was Tito from the Feelers Fall and the rumors I used to hear about him when I was a young kid, was like he was getting money.

He was a flying nigga fucking all the bad bitches and the feelis fo was you know, an amazing rap crew. He's somebody I looked up to even to this day when I see him, might be like, yo, we gotta make noise for Joe being super hip hop on his first pick. Some of these people like what the fun is the fearless think it's Tito from the Feelers fall like he used a fly nigger your real hip hopper. Just you just really showed the world. Now you are because Googles and who Google? And I'm gonna tell you

a secret. Right when we were shooting the video John Blaze in queens Um, we were shooting in John Blades, I was there. It was in Brooklyn green Point, so it was Pun's birth This and me and Nas is beefing. Do you remember? This was beefing and you called me to scotch the beef for Nas. Do you remember that? And that's why I'm in with nas verse plays. I'm the only person that's in the verse with Nas because I think I hung out with Cormega some bullshit. So

he goes like to getting Nas. He's a special guy too, So no, he's a special guy. So and me and I stopped talking and you called me and it was like that's your brother, Um, so we should we turned around and this is real ship, right, Yeah, now we're gave him too much rel So this is Teeto from the Feelers Fall. Came out of nowhere to the video, and he had a cake. He knew it was Pun's birthday. He never met punt. Was this John Blake. So he

comes in the trailer and he gets it. He brings out a cake and the nigga pulls out a bunch of hundred dollar bills and put them like candles on the cake. This Tito feelis he wasn't even a rapper no more like you know, he was beyond crazy. Still give money through up the hun're doing. By the way, it's still still getting money, right. Man. Turned around and I'm explaining the punt of what it is, and it's Teeto.

He's the rich, didn't even really know him. So I go like this your pinties like the niggative first nigga, this this dad flies Spanish nigging teetot up all the fucking hundred dollar bills and pump blew it out. We ate the cake. Tito's a stand up guy, man, he's a beautiful person. She said too. And I gotta give it to Cypress Hills because both gave me to the West Coast. I'm sorry I didn't know kid for us to think about. But I'm still as Cuban and anyway,

kids music and it representing the Ross. I love me because because you know why, you know I actually understand it. I did. I did a movie. It's a horror flick called Seven Mommies. I don't recommend you see it. Crash. I did questions, questions, the question He the first two videos I ever shot in my life. He shot it so you felt loyal. Was so he told me to come to Arizona. I did, Uh. Noel g from training Jade training day. No no, don't say no more niggas

the mommy nig fucked up. It was fun. I ain't fun. And then then they killed me. I played the black guy in the Hart. My favorite role is paid for when he comes over to the car. You know, I freest out that home man. That's the legend Gerry wrong. I was like, you're Samuel Jackson moment, but yeah, actually we'll go there. We'll go there. So look, so Noel Noel G me and him got mad cool like I'm talking about like he hung out my trailer. I hung

out his trailer and he's from East. Um, I'm would say East New York, East l A. So I flew to l A one time. I was like, yeah, I want to go to your hood. He was like he had to keep it real with me. He was like, nah, that come over. You know, I go any hood, Joe, East New York. Pink houses. I don't give a funk. But when the person that's supposed to bring you there says they gotta have you, nah, they like they can hold you. They said your skin color, he said, I've

seen them killed Mexicans. That skin is darker than yours. That's what he said. You know that's prison politics, but a prison politics run. I'm not in the black community all over the community. So um that that sucked me up when I realized that for me, but paid it for To get back to that, I actually audition for alcohol and I didn't get it. Wood Harris, who um was the person I spoke to and paid it for.

Who played hazy with Harris. He came to me and he and he tried to prep me for the audition role. And when he prepped me for the audition, Um, I took it too serious. You know, I got I got a real actor sitting there telling me what to do, what to do, and I tried to do it to Actually, I did eight movies. I never got any movie from audition. I I'm say, you got to got it. If I'm saying I got it, I'm in front of the camera, I'm good. I'm back on that. If you just say,

y'all want fat Joe in this movie, I'm great. I'm gonna do I'm gonna kill it. I'm gonna do it. But I never read my lines like I read them. I memorize them because I'm God body like you know what I'm saying. So I memorize them and did not change them. Because the thing about God body, if you, if you really realize it, after you master your one twenty, you gotta master your plus degrees. So to me, that's what always what hip hop was to me, it was

a plus degree. It was is this five percent? We went from you just at first everything, I'm leaving every coach. You know, it's too it's too late for me to go emphatically, no sightful, you can't do it in today's master I'm from God's Ville. Yeah, that's they called your hood gods Ville. They called my God City, they called my hut waship because from Kenda from Kid Yeah he wasn't. The two niggas snuck down there. They there but Cypress

Hills because they did it big. And remember when I first saw them, I thought they was from New York and I was like, oh damn. They shot the video New York and the Cuban cub in the video from the video was that killing killing They shot at front and everything that everybody. Everybody was discussing that are they from New York? Are they from? Where? Then? Are they from? The niggas like like that, and they was in the hole Cypress Hill, you were killing queens. Yeah no, no,

no tips in that video too. I think my nigga, I thought them niggas was from New York. But I'm not gonna tell you I looked up to them because they was from New York. I'm just telling you, I

want to get high. So the niggas was right, and I don't even get highly niggas was rocking my nigga like like like, I ain't even gonna lie to this day, I probably look up to Cypress Hill still because I just feel like they really put it down the way I like it to be put down and still no, all these ships to this day, No, you gotta say yours and you're gonna wrap it up. In terms of Latino raph I mean yeah, well Cypre's Hill is definitely

for sure and punk, hands down punk. You know, I'm we're gonna end this on this well part of the best Latino rapper ever lived. I'll tell you right the bottom real quick. When when I heard when I heard him on Firewater, Firewater, that was me. It was me getting and OK, that's the first put that on mixtape, my mixtape, no mixtape. Let me tell you, nobody had ever heard anything I put on the mixtape here in Miami, and I was like, this dude is fucking killing it.

I didn't know who he was, I just but then I knew. I knew he was Latino. I was like, we got one. That's it, that's it because be just so you know. At that same time, Big El is my favorite rapper, digging in the Crazy Crew. That's my brother too. My other favorite rap was a member of two crews with the greatest rappers the old time. That's my favorite. We know it's got that. That's where I'm like, this is it. Yeah, we got him, yea. I really

it's just almost like chins chins angelists send him in evangelists. Good. I knew Punning was great. I didn't know he was the greatest until like after after his funeral. I remember me standing there and crying at the and God bless ther Dad flex flex Ts was the one who came and grabbed me because I didn't know what to do. Like I still started crying. My mother came to the keeper real without me. My mom said, my mom's didn't wait for me to come. Mother within man from the

boat danger like crazy. It was so crazy because the people who came to that funeral, you know, it was like crazy man like. It was like people that from our community that never even talk to us. Was you know, they were so proud they were showing up. And he was like, Yo, that's just my school teacher, you know. So I'm sitting there crying and I walked by my school teacher come and grab me and like, yo, be strong. This is that like we touched so many niggas in thathood.

It was crazy, but it was like that too. I never forget too. I was at one point I was at point funeral and I was crying and uh, it was John Rule And I looked up and it was John Rule. He was there one dep too. He was like, be strong, crack, don't where we be strong. And that ship, that Punch ship was serious man. And this is what I remember Flex grabbing me and just was like you he's not suffering no more the crazy y. I've never

seen Pun suffer like when Pun. I never said, I know we can we're going too much, but we're gonna stop it soon. But when Pun used to have sleep apana, like when he used to go like this, I used to think Punt was playing with me, like God bless me because you know now I know. But back in nice like damn, my fucking stories is borried people to like Yo, we would be talking like it was good. I'm like, let's just get Pun love Nori and Uh in a different way, in a special way. And the

niggers used to hang out. They used to chill. We're still boy Joe. That's when Joe said, because Joe was always militant, like he's always he's to get money, dude, Like that's all he thinks about me and Pun, we wanted to have fun. We was younger. You know what I'm saying, Joe's al g it's a fact because we used to be on the road everything like and punning smoked weed. He drank cause like you know what I mean, like just like just started drinking, like really like you

just started lesually drinking like so serious. He was like like every day, like I'll tell my son this to us, said listen, bro we was born with nothing, my nigked and if we get the opportunity to go get it, let's not stop, Nigga. Let's just go get it. And we can't make it. We gotta go get this fucking money, man, because all the times we dreamed about getting money, all the times all we wanted was money. Niggas wouldn't give

us a fucking ice cream. You know, we're starving. We get Nigga's got a chip in for four chicken wings and French fries. Now Nigga's just throwing this money at us, Like what the fund is we supposed to do? Let's go get this fucking money. And and and and and that's that's that. That's That's what I'm about. Right now, I'm in the car with my sun rap. I'm in

the car one am. I balked on him two minutes before I came here because he was like, yo, engine, ain't really doing it right there, Like nigga, you're fucking crazy, Like I'll be rapping in closets. We're gonna end this. Back in the days, you couldn't send them email. You had to run around with two tapes like this. That that ship was like carrying a mitchet. Ye real, let me tell you something I've never been to and this is my engineer right here. Hasn't it sounds prod something grand?

But has I have never had a session with you unless I did four records? Keep it real, I'm gonna look away so like I'm not even you know, fine in my lying at least four at least at least four because you know why, it's not because but back then, spending fifteen hundred dollars on the lockout or three thousand dollars on the lockout, I had to do yo one

on this ship. I'm keeping it real. Seeing then War Report album was done over two years, but it was only like five to seven sessions because we recorded eight nine records when we went in there and you know, tragedy put us on here when you had this wave man in your waves, like you know, special waves. But what it was, y'all nigga man, you could do whatever

you wanted, nor nor you you're funny nigger. And then it's like it's like it's like maybe he was bugging out, but to us it was like flows we never heard, right. The thing is, I'm not you know what the fuck is? This thing is saying this ship? You know what that came from? What was the joint you did? Um? And we gotta go with what was the joint you did? I think it was in the firm. You know this? You know that was leaving. I'm leaving. I'm leaving. I can get the story of that. And then we break out.

But listen, it goes that it's that one, Mike, h No, we know this. We know that's the first because I'm leave the first. Yeah. And it was another one you did for nas right was it was a mob de it was blood money, blood money, money, the money, the one when we did that during the Firm album. Um,

the Funnies ship. I'm not gonna lie to you from the outside, And I don't know if you know go ahead tell me you was like the ellest nigger right there, like like right there when they snatched you up, because there was a big move for you and I no, I had just shot nigger the projects too, and it was like and I kept hanging out there. They was like, what this thing is? When left Cracker left Brackers money twenty minutes and I kept hanging out and I gotta

I gotta give them love. The Jungle. Jungle was the dude like. Jungle was like, we're fucking want him. We went to shoot up. You know what I mean. But what I'm saying is when they recruited you and you was just like it was so ill. I was just like and you know, and you know from them. My very first feature, my very first feature after that was the Pun the Record, My very first feature after that. I mean, um, you know Punt's first words he ever

said to me what he said? Because I was in a session the first this is the first words you ever said to me? You said, this is the first words you ever said to me. You said, y'all cnn huh. He walked this unique studio, unique studios, think of walks in and then Pun wasn't he goes, y'all see in the huh. I'm like, you said, which one of your niggas got shot? And then Palm raised his hand and then y'all start up hearing gunshot rooms and ship. I

was like, this is very awkward. Home shows this ship then and then he goes which one of y'all's Puerto Weekend and I raised my hand and this is this is one hundred same facts. I was just like, because I've never met this nis. I love this nigger, but I don't want him to think I'm a sucker. He just walked in my studios, especially Blue told to walk over right, buck Wild is doing the beat maybe be buck Wild, and then Punk goes to me. He goes, yo,

you brought the Rican and I go yeah. He goes, so wipe the ice creall off, blah blah, because we're gonna be friends. And from that moment, you know, the nigga made me laugh. I was racist from that moment and it was some of the best people I've ever met. Man, Joe, I really appreciate you. You have never left me. You know, You've always been there for me. The guard Ray Kwan, but just is his birthday, happy birthday, my brother. But Ray Kwan the chef before you leave, telling me friends

top three friends and him never you don't sneakers. They jerked me, so I have he called me first. I was out of time. I said, now I'm gonna get him, and I never got him, but I really needed one. You got one? Are you gonna give me one? Yeah? I know? Before what can I say something? So I'm an underground wrapper. I'm with digging in the craze. I'm like on my first second out. I'm on my first album. I came out the same time as Woo Tank and

I remember I was getting like three hundred show. I ain't know how they made money because it was fifteen niggas, right, I'm sure. I'm like, damn, I started counting thirteen niggas and ship he niggas must have got fifteen dollars, like like ship fuck up right? And then um, I remember who just super Blue and I wasn't big yet, and I remember I would any time I would call Ray Kuan and this nigg is like four platinum, I'll be like, you're way I need you. On the song to Night

like fire Water. Ten minutes later, that nigger was in there. No funny staff kept the ten thousand with me. I remember one time I was in ray don't even remember this, Yeah, y'all don't remember this, but I was in Statnland. I

had to show. I remember we had the studios, that we got the studio and that, but no, one time I had a show in the hood early on and I got into some ship with the with with the Statnlan niggas like it was about to pop off crazy like yo funk, y'all talking about nigga nick is ready to pop off, and the guard ray Quorn, was like, Yo, it's my motherfucking brother man. That ship ain't going down here. Shut let's talking. That would change niggas calmed down that

that ship ain't going down here, nigger. You know what I'm saying. But it was like you know, um so like Nori, I'm I'm gonna say top five because I got friends. You know what I'm saying. But I got you top five brothers, my brothers that I love. There's always kept it real with me. Top five friends. You and ray Kuannas in my top five friends brothers, you know what I mean, Like not love you, not rapping, nothing to do with that, just like you're my brothers.

You could call me at any time, Ray called me at any time. It is what it is. If we never wrapped and we knew each other from the block, we would still be brothers. So you know, Ray kuannas in that category. And trust me, it ain't too many niggas in that category, not for me, neither not for me. Thank you, man. I always count on you, man Um. I want to say one more story. I like your T shirt. Oh yeah, I like it a lot. This

is hip hop. What you try to stunt on me with what hold on, I've never seen those those Listen. It doesn't matter because he'll never give me his n't give me everything else in the world, but the sneaker connect doesn't happen. Fat Joe, thank you for joining Dream Bad Interview. Hold on yeah to put him on an interview. Who do somethay find all your favorite movies and shows factor with Exfinity just speaking to the excellent voice for most to search across live CD, on demand, even Netflix

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