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The Wedding CRASHED, with Craig Sheffer • EP216 (PART 2)

Apr 04, 202238 min
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The conversation with Craig Sheffer continues and is full of surprises! Hilarie reveals who else read for the role of Uncle Keith and we are all shocked. Joy tells Craig about the epic crush she had on him while filming and he tells us about the adorable way she revealed this to him years ago (which Joy forgot!!!).


The Drama Queens bond with Craig about their time on One Tree Hill and we learn so much about him including how he was discovered by Andy Warhol! We also explore his challenges working on OTH, and his complete utter shock when he learned Keith (*spoiler alert*) was going to die. 

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First of all, you don't know me. Were all about that high school drama, girl drama, girl, all about them high school queens. We'll take you forward, Rode in our comic girl cheering father right drama, Queen's Girl Fashion. But you'll tough, girl. You could sit with us girl Drama, Queens, Drama, Queen's Drama, Queen's Drama, Drama, Queen's Drama, Queens. You guys, this is a conversation that Sophie and I personally have

been looking forward to for years. We've got Joy on the second confessing no former feelings for our very handsome guest, Craig Cheffer. O. Craig Hey, Craig Joy has a question for you, and we'll all do a joint can ask him ask it? Craig, do you remember you and me sitting at De Luxe with Paul when Paul you know, I had a massive crush on you for the first one, four or five years, O show, did you know? You

had to have known this? I heard something, but I know at the time, Actually, Joy, Joy, I didn't know how to handle you actually left me a letter on my doorstep. No I didn't, Yes you did. Wait wait, I didn't you left me a letter on my doorstep at the beach asking me like, let's go to a lovely afternoon on the beach and stuff like that. And I'm so embarrassed. You're not You're like you're a child. I was paralyzed. I was like, she's just a baby. I don't know what. Oh, oh my god, pretend you

never left it. Thanks, because I was forgotten. Terrible it out. You're such a good guy, because any other dude would have been year old. Give me some You're such a good what a great guy. Well that's the thing. We were sitting at dinner with Paul, and Paul goes, hey, Craig, you know, Joy has been in love with you like four years, and I'm just it was like, you know, I mean, I was a kid, so I hadn't been you know, I hadn't had anybody just do that to me.

It felt like high school. Somebody just outed you with your secrets and you were so oh god, I'm set you guys right now, I'm so sweaty. I'm like, I'm I'm I'm sweaty. I didn't I'm not sweating. I'm sweating out of my eyeballs right now. I don't know what's happening. Well, you handled it all with such grace, and it's just all the more testament to what an awesome guy you are. And we just well we had a great connection talking about poetry and writing and all that stuff that you

were like, yeah, you were all into that. So I think that's really what it was about. We set noise talking about you were writing and I was writing, and well, you you're such an attractive personality. You're so interested in other people, You're so interested in learning, and you're a curious person and you know you really I think that's what makes you such a great actor too. And you brought all That's why we fell in love with Keith as well. We we loved this guy who was so

compassionate and so interested. You know. Keith was a great listener and and he was everybody's best friend, you know, and you brought that sense, that sense of yourself. It's so interesting for us to watch the show now and

look back. Hillary you said it. Craig's are romantic, like you make things, you create, you you write poetry, you you lean into um you know, the essence under the words, and none of us, you know, we were all twenty one year old ding dongs and like we were in the era of Tiger Beat when all the boys were idiots and and here you were, like talking about poems and you were like velvet in a person, and we

were so just enamored by you. And it's fun to see the way we all kind of looked at you, like, Wow, he's a he's a grown up. We see him, We see all that in Keith, and it's I mean, we just love him. We love to watch you. This episode was so gorgeous for for that romance that you put in him. I am so like old man with technology. I was trying to try to find a show less

and I can't find it. What do you remember from it, though? Like, how what do you remember from originally getting the script of the pilot and coming aboard this ship the original Yeah, ravens oh oh, I just really well, first of all, I really liked the character, you know, Um, I like the mentor aspect of him and the relationship with the brother and the whole Um. I don't know what Shakespearean feel to it, you know what I mean? And uh, yeah,

I just I don't know. I just was really looking forward to it because I had never done television to that point. Um, before that, it was just movie movie movies, and things started slow down. And well at that time it was when I was doing a lot of direct to what's called the direct to video stuff was happening. So this was an opportunity to do something that was, you know, going to get seen more because for about

four years before that it was things were getting little slow. Also, that's when reality TV really took over, like programming, right hell yeah, so yeah, So I just it was a new adventure and it was really great to be down there. Had you beend to Wilmington's before, Yeah, I had done Um, I had done a movie with my daughter's mom called The Grave with Josh Charles and Eric Roberts and Eric Robbers. Oh my god, I love him. Um Craig, you beat

my husband out for the role of Uncle Keith. Um. Yeah, yes, way literally when we met, he was like, I auditioned for that show and I'm like, what what are you talking about? Whatever? Are you kidding me? Everyone wanted to be Uncle Keith because that was like the sexiest part. It was like the cool guy and you brought so much of your own style to it um. One of my favorite stories you've ever, ever ever told me is

about Andy Warhol discovering you. Oh my god, I need you to tell people this story because i just watched the Andy Warhol documentary and I'm like, where's Craig. I haven't seen the whole thing yet. I only watched the first ever since I since I told you that, Okay, so I'll tell the story very quickly. I'm twenty three years old. I've just gotten my first role on Broadway, literally like the day before, two days before. So I'm at my last day working at Cafe Shasha on the

West Village. Like my I was like, I'm done with work. I'm not gonna work. I never did work again after that. I'm leaving work. I'm walking down the street. I've got my shirt open, you know, just trucking home and and and my jeans on, and this limousine kind of slowly posed by me, and the windows cracked down. I'm like, and I see top of the head looking out, and I'm like, it was a little weird. And then I walked down a little further. Now comes back the other way,

it circles again. I'm like, somebody stopped in me. Anyway, limousine pulls up and this guy gets out, a younger guy, and he comes up and goes high. Um um, Andy Warhol is in that limousine and he wants to shoot I'm like Andy, I says that the Campbell soup guy. But that was That's how I knew about it. Like it was just as ship hell from Pennsylvania that moved up to New York and gradually h grew some culture

in my u you know, and my soul. But anyway, um, so I go over the window and he's like, you know, i'd really like to shoot you. And I was like okay. He's like, yeah, for me three hundred bucks. And and so I called my age and I was like, this guy, Andy Warhole wants he wants to take your picture. Go do it, man, what are you kidding me? And make sure you get a copy. And I was like okay. Anyway, So I go up to the student and I have lunch at the in the in the factory, around this

big table with these other people, strange people. They were just strange everybody in there, everything about it, and he says, well, you ready to do the pictures? Ye know? He goes on the back and he's like, well, um, how many clothes can you take off? And I was like wait a minute. And I was like, he said, well can you take your shirt off? And asa share? Anyway, So he had American flag on the back wall and he took you know, did a photo shoot. He did a bunch of pictures of me and and and that was

one thing. He was really nice. He invited me to all all the parties that they had, you know after that, which was kind of cool, you know, and he started there. It was like all kinds of big stars like Bowie and you got to hang out with people like that and and anyway, So here here's the the end of it or the so my daughter, my daughter is a brother and sister? Who are my god children? Um? The the girl like cause my daughter and goes, oh my god. They call me chongo, which is monkey in Spanish. Just

so tongo. There's some one of those pictures what Christen's website? What I had never seen the pictures. No, I never went to see him or anything like that. So yeah, so it's is it online if you look up Andy Warhole, there's a picture a picture they shot at me. They sold it on Christie's and I guess, but it's really no way. When you told me this story like twenty years ago, you were like, never seen the picture. I can't find it. They have no idea what it looks like.

I we have to post this on our social media. I'm beside myself. I'm looking for it right now. Oh godg you want this, Okay, hold on, hold on, my god, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm putting it in the chat. I'm sending a link right now. Yes, I'm saying at you, God, Yes, this is why you pull over your limousine. This is a h you know what's crazy? Also, is I never um, I never thought you and Paul really looked like brothers.

But this photo, the close up of you with your chin down, you guys have a very similar look to That's interesting. Oh my god, Craig, Craig, I'm proud of you and I love that. Oh my christ there's a there's Oh there's a bunch, Craig, absolute smoke show. Oh my god, you holding this barbell? Look at your track? Are you kidding me? Hold run no, Craig, you need to go Google search on yourself. I'm pating. We'll show you how, we'll do it for you. Yeah, Oh my god.

I loved these stories though, because Craig, you never told a story about like big, huge, famous people in any kind of jaded manner. You were every bit as excited as like we were as twenty one year old, you know, like you never let the business kind of I don't know, eat you harden you. I think that's a you know, blue collar roots, good family. They would wouldn't put up with that, you know, kind of like them. That's nice talk. Heart of what made you perfect for Keith Well and

perfect for every single woman on our show? Because, um, your track record on this show is extraordinary with the Karen had it all, the deb of it, all the jewels of it all. Um, your chemistry with all the women is is that just a gift? There? Would great group of people. Really, we had so much fun together. Moira felt like, you know, my wife and Ubara a

lovely little dessert. What a flirt that Barbara? What? I am really curious, you know, because you guys were such good friends to us as young women on our first show. But you know, to to the point of what we're talking about, some of you had histories together. Some of you were there with your kids. What what was that sort of camaraderie among the grown ups like for you with you and Moira, Paul and Barbara, what what did

that life look like? Because you know, we know how weird it was for ourselves to have to uproot our lives, leave college, leave jobs, moved to North Carolina. What was it like for you with you know, family, Uh, it was to me, it was great. I think one of the things, like with Moira, is you know, you guys have had this last twenty years years of you know, your brand of stardom and and the different roads you've traveled. And Moira and I kind of always traveled around each other.

We were always kind of both doing all these you know, big movies and and stuff like that. And then and then both of us were on TV for the first time. It's just and and I think also being sequestered in a place like we were, and the outside world your your NORMALI outside world isn't there. You kind of bond because that's that's you know, that's where you are and what you have, and you're in a new world. And um, I think that displacement kind of makes for new friendships.

M Yeah, I want to know about when Keith spoiler alert and Keith died. Um did you did you know in advanced did they did they come and talk to you ahead of time or did you just get the script? And you're like, oh, I guess this is happening now,

Like what was that? Like? It was actually really, uh, extremely disappointing because I had just made a movie and financed myself for like a million dollars and Mark Schwanna told me that because they had let me go for the last six shows the season before, and I was like, you're gonna cut me, you know. He came to dinner and tell me said no, no, no, as long as

the show's run, you're you're gonna be on it. You know, you're you're the character based on my brother, so all this stuff and literally the guy didn't call me until like I was talking to ponies, like, dude, I'm leaving in three days. I go, what you know, to go back to the show. And it was the next day. I was out golfing the phone rings and smart Swanni goes, oh,

that's really exciting news for you. It's gonna be the best season ever and that, I said, we as I was wondering when you're gonna like, I didn't even get a call, so I didn't what was going on. And I had my agent call yesterday nobody returned his call, and he goes, yeah, it was good news and bad news. You know, um it's a great tells me about this great thing. And then he goes and then Paul shoots you and I go, okay, so I'm dead. Does that

mean they don't get paid anymore? Yeah? It was like yeah, And I was like, wow, all the regular role with it, like it was pretty cheap. No, it was, but just the way it was handled and that you don't call me and you can talk to me about it, it's not okay. That's just kind of the worst example of people in power in our industry treating us, the ones who move and change their lives for their shows, like

they treat us like worth supply rather than disposable. Sorry, like three days a week, And I was like, guys, can you because Willow was with me in the first two years from schooler and all that, and then after that, I was like, can you maybe just give me every other Friday off so I can fly home and they were just such, yeah, maybe we have said it on this show. We're like, oh, you can say whatever you want to say. Almost we didn't, Craig, we didn't know.

It was most of our like first pretty big jobs, and so we didn't know how toxic it was until I went and I worked on White Collar and they were lovely. They're like, oh, you want to see your child, fantastic. You haven't seen your husband in three weeks, fantastic. We'll figure this out. And I was like, oh, oh, well, there's a different way. Not that it's not that that hard. You can and we do know that, you know, production tentiles can get crazy simple things. It was just like

it was so about like control. As a matter of fact, I had really uh. I showed up as this character had teeny bit of facial hair. I wore my boots outside my pants. That got always did we talk about your boots all the time. They threatened to fire me about my boots. I was like, look, I'm just gonna leave my boots in my I wear my band in. I've been doing it for the first three or four weeks. Well,

we don't want that anymore, and we want your hair combed. Back, and we want your shaved, and we want this a little that the point of the call, my agent going, well, if this is how our struggle is going to continue, we're just gonna get rid of them. Oh my god, that kind of stuff that they break down your soul, you know. Yeah, And it's only a power struggle because they're creating totally unreasonable a totally unreasonable bar for anybody

to reach and non collaborative control. And something that feels important is like to acknowledge, Look, you you hired each of us because of what we brought to a character. Right, you take that away. If you take it away, what are we doing? And there there's so little acknowledgement given to the uprooting, the moving, the pulling your daughter out of school, having to put her in a new place, the leading your entire family behind, the being on this crazy schedule. We love what we do, so we do it.

But you literally our creativity, Yeah, you're not. Are we here anything in your entire life? What time you wake up, what time you go to bed, nothing except for your creativity. And for somebody to say, we hired you for your creativity and now we want to step on it. You just go like, what's happening here? Why am I here? Wild control? Oh, if we washed our hair in the wrong direction, we were like threatened with being fired. My

last season. They called. They were like, your hair is too red, and I was like, I'm gone, I'm a ghost. It doesn't matter anymore. That yeah, no, it was. It was crazy. I remember our our our Voldemort. I'd gone to do a movie in the summer between seasons two and three, and Hillary knows we talked all about it because there are favorite kind of girls. I was playing this like super goth chick in New Orleans, and I cut bangs and I dyed my hair jet black and

like the character had tattoos, super fun. So obviously I dyed my hair back to like the brooke Davis Brown. When I come home and Mark lost his mind on me, my bangs were growing out. It was like a cute little side like little part moment. We all loved it. Joy I remember being, oh, my god, you're so cute with bangs. Like we were excited. And you know what he said to me, a grown man who was my boss? I was twenty two three. I I can't do math, Uh, he goes, who the I told you you could cut bangs.

You know who had bangs, all the cheerleaders in high school who never wanted to have sex with me, And I was like, what's happening, What's happening? Is this what I'm getting yelled at for? Like Craig it was so controlling and gross and misogynistic and creepy for us. You know, he'd yell at Hillary and I if we put our hair in ponytails during cheer practice. Like that was one of the reasons also why they were trying to figure out if they could write me off the show too.

Joy didn't want to do the blocking that every single you know, if the director showed up and they said, okay, we would sometimes show up to rehearsal and it would be a blocking It would be uh supposed to be a blocking rehearsal, but they would have it already lit and they would already have decided where you're gonna walk, and it was just like we're just gonna do a run through and then and then just say your lines, we're gonna roll, Okay, can't come to set camera ready,

And I'd show up and I'd be like, I appreciate that everybody's trying to move fast, but I don't want to walk across the room because it doesn't make any sense for my character. She has to stay grounded right where she is. If she goes to that moarther room, it implies that she's going further into the house when all she wants to do is run out the door, you know what I mean, Like, it doesn't make sense. And then they're like, well, we're already lived there to

discuss it with you. Yes, you get, you get to make the final decision all that, but you're you're not even regarding our creativity or exactly if you've got a good exact if you've got a good reason, like let's talk about it for sure, exactly. But it's the difference between discussion and order, Like when someone orders you to do something versus says, hey, I have this idea, what's your idea, Let's meet at an idea. It's a it's

a control versus a collaboration. And and I think, as we're having this moment in society where we're talking about the way we treat each other, like what I love about us and the thing we formulated back then that we've held onto, is we really like to collaborate with each other, and we don't like it when anybody's getting controlled, whether it's us or anybody out there in the world.

And that's the kind of stirring I'm here for. So the point is that I love us, and I have to say Craig and I think I can speak for all of us. It's kind of mind blowing to know we we thought we got a lot of this because we were young women. We had no idea they were doing this to YouTube, literally no clue to us. You know you you came in like royalty on our show and to the network, and people always I don't know if you know this, but people were like, can you

believe we got Craig show? First? It was why I signed on to the show. They talked about how we got you and Moira so much. So it's like I'm shocked, But knowing who they were, I'm not surprised they were terrible to you, but I'm shocked they were terrible to you. They were to you guys too, because I was like, you know, they're young and beautiful. They can't complain about anything that these people. I was like forty two at

the time. I guess ago you were a baby. I think it's really it's really comedy industry that the people writing you guys were getting that same pressure. I think it would have been. I remember on my first movie at a diabolical director and an actor, they were playing this um method game with me of some sort, and I just remember how it just me up. For years,

I didn't trust anybody. I go on set and I was like, I gotta protect myself, man, you know, And then you go on a good set you still felt that you had a you know, really feel things out because there's some and for people like people who are real artists, it's trust is everything. As an actor, you got to be able to be vulnerable, and if you feel like you're getting messed with, it's really hard to do your best work and then to feel good about absolutely.

And it's I think it's a really common thing in the industry though, that the people writing the checks are under the misconception that actors are just the puppets or animation. Like you can. I was going to use those exact terms of five minutes ago when you were talking. Yeah, I felt like that many times on a set where that they just don't quite understand that I actually have put a lot of thought and work into that. There's a reason why I'm not just a face. I actually

have done a lot of work. You know, I don't know there's a brain in there. They're hoping to perfection perfect c g I, and they won't need us anymore. Hey, let's see how that goes, Craig. I think part of the reason we're also close is because we went through this pretty toxic experience together. Like when we see each other at conventions, it is a big family reunion. And I want to be very clear. You were a safe place for us well before the me too movement happened,

before we ever vocalized our concerns. You were always a good guy for us, and I appreciate that. Um. I feel badly that this experience didn't honor you as it should. But I want to know, like what your favorite job of all time was, Like, what's the job that was the most fun experience ever? Well, there's I had a lot of jobs that were fun experiences, but you know, yeah, Riverence through it by far like the most. It just has so much heart soul. I don't know, it's just

so deep. You're so dreaming in that movie? Did you know the guy some people think it's dream here, But did you keep did you keep up fishing at all after that movie or was it kind of just the thing you did for the film. And then you called I can't I can't even hook a fish and feel good like I grew up. You know, my family has a hunting cat, and I was just like, I so

can't cook. Oh gosh, that guilty. I lived on a lake though for twenty five years, and remember I enjoy swimming in lakes and going off rope swings and all that stuff. Yeah, and I fish. I'm not a vegetarian or anything like that. She'll be able to catch him, but Sophie does that. Sophia goes fishing in Montana. Now, just I was gonna say, Craig, I'll catch your fish for you and then I'll cook him. I really do

think that. My my sort of you know, nostalgic love affair with learning to fly fish is because of you. I I mean, not not like you guys did in the movie or anything, but yeah, yeah, I'll send you a picture. Um, I started actually going thank you you, cutie. I started um going on fly fishing trips years ago before Grant and I started dating. I I just I

don't know. I've always, you know, loved the great outdoors and been like a road tripper and a camper and all those things, and it was a thing I'd always wanted to learn. And I was up, you know, Hillary mentioned in Montana with some friends and I was like, I'm just gonna do this, and I got so hooked. And I've taken like groups of girlfriends to fly fish in Alaska, gone back to Montana, um fly fish in

New Mexico. I love them. I love it what she started. Craig, you didn't thank you, thank you for my favorite sexy lady hobby at them sometimes, isn't it. Yeah? Yeah, And there's nothing like when you've had a good day and you're like, I've done it, I've gotten good at this, and then the next day you don't catch anything and you're like, and I'm humbled by nature once again. I shall, I shall go home empty handed. How long are you in l A, Craig? Are you there? Are you living

in l A? Now I've moved back? Yeah? Right, alright, Well, next time, like I said, it was the first week of the pandemic and just hung out for a long time. And now I'm, you know, um starting to work good. Yeah, you just played Nixon on American Horror Story, which how was that? Super cool? It was? It was just a blast, man. I love now talking about again a creative experience. I mean they were so supportive, you know, like Ryan Murphy was just very you know, I would hear like what

I was doing. Nobody ever really tried to control anything, and I mean, you know, I got direction all that. But yeah, it was really really fun. I love him. And when they sent it to me, I was like me, Nixon, I was like, I don't get it. And then I was like I started watching stuff. I'm playing around. I'm like, there he is, and I like stuffed my cheeks with cotton like Brando did The Godfather. Oh my gosh, my head.

It was. It was just fun. I was like playing a character, which is like we all love to do the most right something else or I'm so curious about that. To play someone so famous, where do you start? Like what what's the doorway into as an actor playing a character like Nixon? Where do you begin? Yeah? I just started with YouTube, you know, I just started watching his speeches and his mannerisms, and you know, I only had like three days to prepare it for I put myself

on table, you know. Yeah, so, but I do immersed myself in YouTube for like two or three days and started playing with makeup and and wow. And as soon as I do, I was just like, this is weird. I look like you know, I just said, I put my own spin on it because it was they this says season. It was double feature last year, and I'm in the last four, the second half of the double feature, and it's like it's all shot in black and white and it's fifties UFO stuff with you know, Eisenhower and

Kennedy people. Nixon's like this macadline died behind the whole things, selling out to the UFOs to be selling out to the aliens to become present. I just dropped the photos. Who has Nixon into our Oh my god, this is unbelievable.

When you're day actor, you're actor. I am really lucky that we had you at the beginning stages of our trajectory because you have always been a really strong example for us of good behavior on set and creativity and asserting yourself without being combative, you know, like you're you're a really good leader. And so now when you're when we're in l A, We're going to come bug you. Is that okay? Can we come bug? You can do?

I'm you, guys for all this, all the stuff you've been doing, all the all the stuff you've been doing. I'm just happy. And I just can't believe you guys are I can't believe you're like almost the age I was when I did. They didn't tell me about it. No, No, I mean, I guess Barry wasn't old. Everyone thought Barry was old, and I'm like, Berry's not old, you guys, Berry's like young, he was young. You know, he's just been playing a grumpy old man forever, but he is.

That's my We spent a lot of time together at Charlie Barn. Yes, oh my gosh, yes, that's so fun. That such good to see you. Before we leave, what was your favorite place in Wilmington's Because the fans really do like to like do tours of our old haunts. So last question, favorite spot in Wilmington's mm hmmmm hm oh Circus Circle. Oh yeah, you were Circa right. I just loved Circa. I loved the dark Wood. It was just like my house. It was like being back at

my house. And that food there was incredible. I like the Soapa Bar two a lot, but I'd say those two are my favorite. Pork City Chop House wasn't bad. Yeah, remember that the beach. Yes, Chicketty's is that still there? There were so many good restaurants. That was one of the great things. Would you say, chick Hetty's that Italian restaurant that was over by Yeah, the hash guy owned that place. Yeah, I missed that place. Well, we're gonna have to take a trip back, Craig. Are we going

to see you in train Hill again? Coming up sometimes? Yeah? Oh yeah, oh yeah, we're gonna go to Trunk Yeah. Wait, you better wear those boots and you better keep your pants tucked into. I want to see boots in a bandana around my neck now ever, since a pandemic, I need not around my head anymore. Oh, Craig, you are just the best. Thank you so much for out what those today. Thank you, guys, We love you later. We'll

see you soon. Bright One Tree Hill fans, guys, I cannot wait for all of us to be together with Craig wearing jackets that he made for us. It is like, yeah, and I'm talking to call my pants into boots, no pants outside of the pepper Never. I gotta get him. I gotta get my bandanas out. I'm ready for this for you. Yes. Can we drama queen bandanas? Yes? Oh my god, we need him drama queen bandanas with little

flaming hearts on them. Ladies, let's spin a wheel because we've done a two parter and last week we didn't get to see. What are supers my favorite right? Most likely to become a motivational speaker, that's what Sophia does. Let's little job, I think so yeah, I mean that was the easiest one that we remember had to do kind of and Brook, I mean, I don't know who else besides his mouth. Mouth is always a good you know, I mean, he's a jack of all of all trade. Andy.

Andy gives talk. So what is your favorite bit of motivational speaking that you've ever done? Was it the one with Michelle Obama or was it the one with your favorite speech? Oh? Man, I mean yeah, doing doing education advocacy work with Mrs Obama was pretty insane. Um, But I don't know I think I've taken different things from

different moments. I I remember, you know, speaking downtown at a big march in l A and just looking out at the sea of like a million people and thinking, Wow, if everyone is willing to show up for each other, for their community, for democracy, for ideas like we we have this uncrushable spirit as humans, and it just makes me feel really pumped. Yeah. No, I I can't help that. This is this was this is definitely me. I'm hearing the words coming out of my mouth and I'm like,

what stump speech? Am I giving? I need to I need to go to bed. You have come such a long way since DW not I baby, we are very I'm very proud of it. All right, What do we got next week? Next week we have episode seventeen of season two. Something I can never have that sounds depressing. What's something you can never have? I don't know what apparely none of these characters can never have healthy relationships. I'm very curious what what that pertains to next. I

can never have expensive sunglasses. Yeah, I can never have rugs that don't have like dog p on them. That's what I'm compound is killing me. Okay, yeah, well we love you guys. Thank you so much for joining us once again. Thanks to Craig Scheffer for being a total smoke show and entertaining us. Hell's yeah, hey, thanks for listening. Don't forget to leave us a review. You can also follow us on Instagram at Drama Queens O t H. Or email us at Drama Queens at I heart radio

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