Praying for Rain • EP307

I love that she is off having romance. Um. Yeah, me too, and just kind of celebrating because we have all certainly been through it together as our characters in this episode, as as you and Haley, Haley and Brook hold each other during these moments of turmoil. We love holding each other up when we get to celebrate good stuff too. So that's what's this episode about. So we've got what is it? It's uh, I don't even know the name of it. This is the Champagne one, I guess.

So again, Okay, so you guys, last week it felt like a standalone episode. We explained what a spec script was. I feel like this one did too, Like, yeah, it totally felt like a bottle episode. Did anything advance? The only thing that advanced is maybe Brooks clothing line. So yeah, let's give him the rundown and then let's talk. Can't all right? It's episode Season three, episode seven, Champagne for My Real Friends, Real Pain for My Sham Friends. Air

date November sixteen, two thousand five, two thousand five. Oh my gosh, it seems so long ago. Is The draft results are in and everyone goes on a date with their pick. Nathan and Haley devil date with Brooke and Chris Keller, which ends in a big mistake. Mouth brings Peyton to a senior home to visit his grandpa, mel and learns a lesson in regret. Rachel and Lucas play basketball sort of at the river Court. Karen and Deb get their revenge John Dan's Billboard. Yeah, Paul directed this episode.

Um yeah, I think he did the best he could with the material. I thought this was a really boring episode, to be honest. Yeah, I mean I liked your storyline with Mouth. That was interesting to me because I'm that working with Tom Bosley was really cool. That's one of those things you know, in the moment, you're like, oh, yeah,

like this is an icon. Happy Days was a huge deal When I was a kid, even though it was in reruns, and so it feels very meta to have our show live in like reruns now like streaming and kids be like, oh, we watch your old timey show the way like Tom Bosley came on our show and we were like, oh my god, I totally watch Ironic one day we will be Tom Bosley. Um, that's right, but he was. It was so great to see him, and he was so sweet, like, I'm sorry, I'm yawning

so much. Guys. I think I just said this was a sleepy episode. Music. Yeah, that's right, a lot of slow music and nothing really advancing the storylines. Everything just kind of like, well, I guess Brook slept with Chris Keller, but that's the illusion anyway. I think, doesn't it come out tomorrow or in the next episode that he just like crawled into bed next to her when she fell asleep, but think all the time that such a creep. Yeah. I the whole episode took place at night, but it

wasn't like a fun club night at Trick. It was everybody on dates they didn't want to be on, except for Peyton and Mouth like that was you know fine. Yeah, everybody else just kind of seemed disappointed the whole episode, and maybe that's what we're feeling. Maybe we're like absorbing the character's disappointment. I know I think so well. But I like the way this episode started with all the

like dream sequences. That was funny. Yeah. We started off with broken Lucas in bed fake out, and then it's Lucas and Chris Keller in bed, which is Haley's dream fake out. And then Haley crawls into bed with Brooke and it's a dream, it's Nathan's dream. It's a total fake out. Yeah, that was a fun way to start. Yeah, it was I liked that. Um, it was very and then Brooke was like so aggressively angry with Rachel again for existing. Have you ever been that mad at someone

that you just met? No, I'm trying to be probably joy have I come on? I mean I get annoyed with for sure. I've definitely been annoyed with people I just met, but not like openly hostile hostile. I try to keep my hostility, you know, and buried until I get home and then I have to vent to my poor husband, and I'm like and another thing, and then she did this more thing. No, Brooke is so blatant

with her hostility. Is that a youth trying I'm just trying to think if at any point in my life it's been that aggressive, or if that is just the way that adults script teenage girls, you know what I mean, It's like teenach girls are bitches. Was leaning into it, I mean, whatever the lines were, she was like fully leaning into it, and that was great. I mean, I like the choice. I think it's really funny. It's a

nice flaw for Brooke to have good comedy. But yeah, but then again, clearly Rachel is trying to uh steal her man sot it. I don't know, man, Rachel asked so many times, is this your boyfriend? Is this your boyfriend? Are you going to pick him? And then Brooks sends him to ask her out, and she's like, why is this brook girl messing with me? Either she doesn't want me to date this guy or she does want me to date this guy. But now I know I'm a target and I'm gonna mess with her back. Yeah, she

makes perfect sense. Well, we've got the fake out in the beginning. Let's talk about suburban filth. The idea of a kid designing clothes in high school. It's a good deal. It's a very big deal. Is it realistic? I guess maybe. Like I remember when this storyline started with Brooke and I was like, she's designed and clothes in high school. This is crazy. And now we've got kids on the internet like YouTube, and I guess not YouTube but Instagram and stuff like kids who are designing. But I think

I'd never heard of such a thing. When we were doing this storyline. It was like what And that was you know. One of the one of the first jobs I applied for, the first job A ever wanted to do, was window dressing. I wanted to go dress the mannequins in the store, but I wasn't sixteen, so they wouldn't let me work there. And the the other one I wanted to do was fix up classic cars, but I had to be eighteen for that so they wouldn't either. But um, I really went hard after the window dressing thing.

I I went to, um, Joyce Leslie, do you remember that store? What is that? Is that a New Jersey thing or it's like a I think it might be a New Jersey or Century twenty one? Sure? Oh yeah, oh yeah, all the store I just walked around the neighborhood. I went back to French Connection in Banana Republic and the Gap and I was like, I just want to window dress, That's all I want to do. And they all thought I was super cute but ignored me. So

we'll show them that dream out. I know because I was thinking about going to school to be a fashion designer at one point in my Yeah, absolutely, I loved. I had this dress form in my bedroom and uh, it was just a little mannequin which I named mary Anne after my daughter was born, and she would she couldn't say mannequins, so she would always refer to it as the Mary Anne. Is that the mary Anne? Is

that your dress of the Mary Anne? I remember their dress form because you were also like there was a point where you made your own lingerie, like you made a ball and I was like, girl, what you made a lot of clothes when we were doing this. I love I love sewing. I would like to take a real course because I'm I make a lot of Maria's Halloween costumes and I'm I can fix things, but I'm not I don't know how to read a pattern or I mean, maybe you could teach me how to do that.

You're great with a sewing machine. Well, I was in Future Homemakers of America and I was treasurer of Future Homemakers of America my middle school chapter. So um il yeah, but I also have like zero taste joy. So if you bring like the fabric selections and like what it's gonna look like, I'll teach you how to do the mechanical that's super easy. Oh my god, I love that. That's the thing. I don't know how to use a pattern.

It's so I get it's it's always a little wonky, but I'm like, it's got enough for kids Halloween costumes. So I just kind of, you know, lean into it. But yeah, I wanted to be a fashion designer and east to I have books and books and books of just sketches. That's all I would do is sit around and sketch outfits and dresses and big gowns and lingerie and all kinds of fun stuff. Um and then uh, I never just well, I mean I had to either go to school. I was also like criminal psychologist or

a marine biologist or fashion designer. You know. It's kind of the fun part about being in high school, right, what are the other things you wanted to do when you were in high school? Well, I went to school for psychological forensics. I went to FORDAM at Lincoln Center because they also have the law school there, so it's like right by on J School of Criminal Justice. I just to go drinking with the boys from John Jay. And you know, how many years did you do that?

Did you get a degree? No? I went for two full years, and then I transferred to n y U. S. Gallaton School. And by then MTV was working me so much. I was like, why am I spending all this money on school? Oh? My gosh, I didn't know that Forensic psychology. The psychology stuff has been very helpful as an actor, you know what I mean, Like for sure, because once you understand how that brain ticks, you're like, oh, all right,

I see what you're doing here, um. And that's for yourself figuring out a character, and also for figuring out the people that you have to work with in the

film industry because everyone's bat um. But then the criminology part of it was it was really interesting because what I grew up learning in Virginia, you know, with your family being like watch out for this, watch out for that, it was totally wrong, Like, you know, living in New York City, learning the reality behind like criminology and like how crimes happen, where they happen, who typically commits them. Um. It was a good lesson because I was less afraid.

Most stuff is like domestic crime, you know, and we deal with some of that on our show, you know, like there's there's a little bit of it on our show. Um, But anytime it's like a total stranger committing a crime on a TV show or movie, I'm like, that doesn't happen. It's almost that's interesting. Knowledge is power? Man. I didn't. I didn't ever think about that in the context of understanding crime. But that's true. Is that Apparently that's really

serving you still because you're doing your show. Um, is it? This couldn't happen here? It's called it couldn't happen here? Yeah, I mean, it couldn't happen here. Look, when we lived in Wilmington's, I was fixated on crimes that were happening on like local news. How next door to mine was getting renovated and the guys working on it found bones in the backyard and they didn't call the police. They were like, hey, lady, come over here and look at this,

you know, comes get your bones. I'm like, oh you guys, Brownly calls somebody. Um, yeah, I was. I was always into it, and you know, you always want to do more than just what you're doing. I think we all feel that way. We always wanted to be more than

what we were at the moment. So yeah, I feel like Sophia really leaned into this fashion storyline while we were in it because she really, I mean, she was going to fashion show, she was making friends with designers, she was really educating herself about it in a way that was kind of intimidating for me. I was like, what are you wearing? I don't know how to say

that me too. Sophia was also spending all of her money on boxes and boxes of clothes that would just like these giant boxes would always arrive and appear at her trade alert and just load just loading them all in every day, one right after the other. Because she was very she was she was educating herself on that world. And of course now she owns a company, fashion Kind with a friend of hers, and they are selling incredible

like sustainable fashion and it's awesome. Listen. I don't know anything about fashion, but but I do know is I fall down the rabbit hole of her website and I'm just like, this is gorgeous. I need ten of them. Yeah, me too. I know the curation is impeccable. Yeah, George likes fashion. Are you wearing your Sonic clothes right now? Yeah? She's going through a big Sonic the Hedgehog fashion phase. So I love kids fashion. That's my favorite is when kids you just let them do whatever they want. It's

so fun because Maria used to. I remember one time I told her we were going to church and she didn't want to go, and I was taking to take her to like a really a Catholic mass forum. Yeah, I mean formal enough that you you know, you dressed nice. And I said, I think she was probably six Yep, she was six or seven at this time. And I said, um, okay, we're gonna go to church. She didn't want to go to church, and I was like, honey, we're going. I want to go to this, so get get dressed. You

have five minutes. And I turned over my little sand what are they called our glass time alas, I have multiple hour glasses we have a half hour, a fifteen minute, at ten minute, and a five minute, so that it's great for kids brains because they can see the time running out. It's on a digital clock. It's just numbers counting down. It's not your brain. I mean, my kid's brain is not um as easily adaptable to that as

to our glass. Anyway. So I set the timer for her and she comes out in a leopard miniskirt with like leg warmers and sparkle shoes and a tank top. Oh no, no, it was a leotard, tank top, leotard underneath it with a glitter a glitter um vest and you know, and sunglasses and a big sequin band in her hair. And she was like, this is how I feel like where, this is what I feel like. We're in a church. Jesus is gonna see me today, that's right.

So I love kids fashion. Anyway, how do we get there? Yeah? Yeah, close over, bros. That's what's coming because of this, I think, because her idea gets stolen. Suburban filth. I do like that that name, yeah, I mean, it's so it's so late nineties, early two thousand's, like I'm from the suburbs. But I'm also very edgy. It sounds like the name of a department store on a TV show, is what it sounds. Yeah, yeah, And it's definitely at the mall.

Favorite line of the episode. Hailey is all upset about the houses being built where her marriage spot was and in all serious z like Haley's tearing up. Brook looks over and goes, let's just go to the mall. It's okay, It's okay, honey, Let's just go to the mall. That was gold you said it. It's the most teenage line

I've ever heard. It's so teenage. The next time something bad is happening in one of our lives, like the next time, like I call you and I'm like, hey, my dog DoD, I just need you to say, that's okay, Let's just go to the mall. Oh god, another T shirt. I hope somebody's marking down all these T shirt requests. We just need to have a streamlined how all these T shirts? Genius? You know what? She didn't say with

a straight face. When Chris Keller shows up at the apartment and she has just gone on this rant about like I will never hang out with Chris, and then she opens the door Keller, and he goes off on his whole little rant and then breezes past her. Y'all better go back and watch that, because Sophia, for the life of her, cannot keep her nostrils from flaring and that little grin from sneaking in. It's so good. That was the Jerry Seinfeld moment. Yeah, she's just like, I

can't with this din stop her from laughing. It's hard not to laugh when Tyler's doing his thing. He's so committed to it. He's so committed, and I loved working with him for that reason, because he could say the craziest stuff and somehow he kept a straight face. I'm terrible at that. I think it's why I could. I really can't do improv, because did you do improv growing up? I did a little bit, but not not a lot. I um, I really struggle with improv. I prefer to

have lines down. I'm I'm just not like A. I don't know. I don't consider myself a super quick witted person in conversation and stuff. I'm more of a Having been drinking with you recently, you are wrong, very quick, very well, thanks, but I I know what you're saying, because I saw in myself in this episode Peyton Hillary, Little Hillary can do the like serious stuff like I've got this birth mother that's got cancer and I don't but me having to like be light and breezy and

like hey mouth, let's go ride go card. So hey ha ha. I'm not a good fake laugher. I am not good at um. I just see it. Oh no, I believed every second. But I thought you were having a ball and I was like, it's so nice to see Peyton laughing and happy, and I thought you were great. You really were, Like I'm faking it? Were you miserable that day? Remember? Writing the go karts was was fun and Tom Bosley is fun, but like the stuff on the quad and oh that was rough, and like the

lead up to it where it's all like a little expository. Yeah, we're just like trying to explain what are we gonna do, why we're about to have this episode? Yeah, what are we doing now? Um? I can always tell that any time I have to be lighthearted Peyton, there's a little bit of a can't I just be growly about something that's so much? Why? Why is that? I don't know? Maybe because Peyton had to cry for the whole first two years that now in year three they're like, yeah, yeah,

go be a kid. I'm just like, but um laughter weird. Yeah, I can laugh as other characters. I just struggle with Peyton being like giggly. Yeah. It was nice to see Nathan softening up. I mean, I still cringe. Haley is just trying so hard and it's it's cringe e, it's cringe E. And the stuffy says when he's like, Haley, I know where we got married, I know what our history is, like, let it go, Let's just be in the present. I felt that that was uncomfortable, so brutal,

so brutal. She's a kid, she doesn't know how to deal with this or go through this or But I'm glad that he kind of threw her a line at the end to let her know that he still loves her. With the flower that looked freshly picked but clearly had been in his pocket all day, why don't we fixate

on that? Why why do we do that? Joy At the same time, we're both like, that hasn't been in his pocket for two hours, because you and I both have picked flowers and put them in our pockets and then taken them out at the end of the day. Sometimes I take my broth and I'm like, what's that doing in there? Whatever? Nipples and flowers? No, what did he say? He said, he wrote down his own prediction right and said, and Hailey's like, how do you know I'm not going to go, you know, take a sneak

at this. He's like, I guess I'll just have to trust you, which is basically his way of signaling like I'm I'm trusting you. You know, we're going to use her more opportunities. It's flowers of metaphor. But I was kind of hoping they would show you looking at it. I know, No, I no, no, I don't. I understood that. I like, I really respected and trusted that um moment

emotionally with them. I thought that was really beautiful and it felt good watching it to know that he was telling her it's it's not all gone, it's not hopeless, it's just taking time, because that in and of itself is such a huge sign, good sign hopeful communication. Yeah, of like the roots aren't gone. I loved that. Yeah, Well, like because you guys had so much stuff just by yourselves, Um,

you're on the rooftop, you're out on the balcony. You know, like there's a lot of stuff where you guys are just off by yourself. I don't know how you prep for that, because your stuff was always so like serious. Did you guys sit around and talk in between scenes or did you kind of go into your bubbles so that you would be super focused when they yelled action.

I think we talked some. I mean James is always reading some classic novel that he was catching up on, like The Old Man in the Sea or The Great gats Beers Dick or whatever he was reading. He was always reading one of those. Uh. I don't know. I think we just were really it was easy. It was so you know, we've had been king together so closely for so long that it's it was always pretty easy. Um. I don't know that we've really spent a lot of time chit chatting. I don't think James and I are

either of us are very chit chatty people. I think we tend to go for the meat and potatoes of meaningful conversation. You both are like, tell me what you think about God? Yeah, how do you feel about politics? Let's geta is actually really uncomfortable with those conversations with but but he also doesn't really like small talk, so but he likes I think he likes those conversations when he's super super comfortable. I just don't know that on set feels like the right place to drive into those

spaces for him. So I don't know. I mean, I don't know. I'm talking out of my ask. We should have James on and actually ask him ourselves. Yeah, you're but you're right. He was always trying to educate himself, yes, which I liked Watch chain. Does that sound creepy? That was inspiring? Yeah. Yeah. Kid always would just go back to his chair and start reading a book and be hyper focused on that and then be able to flip the switch and be hyper focused um in the scene.

But I was always only working with him when they were like a lot of people around, so I didn't know if that was just a crowd thing or if that was always No, I think that's just his way. Um. It's just kind of quiet and reserved, and then when he's off work and relaxed and around his friends, he

lets his guard down. Um, which is a lovely quality for a professional, for an actor, to be able to not have your extroverted self um in everybody else's space or in you know, in a work environment, not getting caught up in the drama. It's a great quality. That's been my life lesson. Like once I left treatment and I would go work with grown ups on other things, I'd go home and be like, oh my god, I talked too much? Oh my god, what did I say. I feel the same way. I'm always walking away from

conversations like God, I'm so annoying. Oh why did I say that? And Haley does that this whole episode. She's just like, I don't even think anything awesome was gonna happen. I'm god, I dressed self flagellation, just brutal. He's brutal well. And to have Chris Keller there is your audience while you're feeling like a nerd. Do you know what I noticed in this episode a little bit is that Tim and Chris Keller are two wings on the same bird, like we Because Tim at the beginning of the episode

is all like boy, draft, who picked me? What's going on? Ladies? Where's our dates? You know? And he just disappears missaw genistic and kind of like a dork. And then Chris Keller is also super misogynistic and a dork. He's just already graduated high school and a little bit older than us. Yeah. Do we ever get scenes with the two of them that might have made people's head exempted. Who that's a lot of dumb and cheek in the same Like I feel like they're the divorced dad's now it's a lot

of kitchen in one space. Yeah, they're the dads at the playground on Sundays with the kids. This is my weekend. Oh god, right, we know that we're friends with How about skills in Bevin? How fun was that? Well? How fun is this Easter egg of the Notebook? Him? Oh, it's so fun? Well, a because Cullen Moss was in the Notebook, so that was kind of a fun little extra thing. But it was shot in Charleston, near us, so we had a lot of our crew and cast that were, you know, back and forth on that movie.

Also because uh, the director of this episode, Mr Paul Johansson, was in the Notebook as Ali's mom's old boyfriend who she didn't end up with, which is why she's trying to convince her daughter not to marry the poor boy. Of course we would be snobby. Just driving by that manual labor camp wherever Paul was working. I thought he looked hot like he was at do Better Joan Allen. And then it's also fun because for those of you who don't know this out there, I was super, super

super moved by this film when I saw it. Um, I kind of couldn't get up and leave the theater for about fifteen minutes after it was over. I was just weeping into my shirt and um So, I ended up writing a musical for Stay Age on spec of the Notebook, and I wrote it. It took me like four years, and at the end of four years, I sent it to Nicholas Sparks and uh he let me produce a staged version of the Notebook my musical in Wilmington's. Um So that was really really fun and I was

just so grateful. Was the second musical I've ever written, and we got to cast it and we performed it at Thalien Hall Um. It was one of the most amazing experiences of my life to be able to work with I kind of co directed. We had Judy green Hunt, who was a wonderful theater director from New York, and so she was our director, and I was just there every day and talking everybody through all the parts and those songs, and and I wrote the music with Ron

and Yellow, who is now Bruce Springsteen's producer. He's done his last like, uh, I don't know five five to eight albums, I think, um and uh yeah, actually I have I have a SoundCloud. You think, should I play one of the songs right now from the notebook? Me thinks we shall. I think we should. Okay, hold on, let me share my screen. Joined This is like a fun twist of events. I wasn't even expecting, you know what. Yeah,

let's do it though, let's do it. Um, okay, listen, here's kind of what would be like the big pop song of the episode. Let's see if we can hear it. Yeah, I can hear it. Breathe then breathe out standing, but on my knees, breathe in, breathe out speaking, but my heart say so, th boots search searching a million moments. It's before this he got some goose my joy. I would stand beside you as you darken the's door. We go in Gun's place and bring that temple chiss knees. Oh,

there's some strange power. Can you and me, let's produce this again? We heaven beater and taking in my heart beating reading and with one look there's like a very faith hill like Shania twain Field to this, like just like we country icon female queen pitching a million moment and for our years all more. I would stand side you as you're dark and dat we go in God's pleas and bring that devil to his name. And there was some strange past in you, and I mean it's

super musical theater. Every whispern within time year, my love, just turn every whisperingly. I would weigh a thousand years or more. I would stand aside as we talk cotest to we're going on plaz and brain n tell little with means this side strange po strange power. Can you and me so fun to hear this stuff? This is the only place we can hear this right now? Right it is actually yes, I feel sail. Oh that was

so fun. So is your Noah? Oh my gosh for Broadway, I mean tarn Edgerton right, Like, how not have Taron Edgerton playing no Way? He's the best or maybe somebody new. Are you going to discover the next big thing I could do? Okay, here's something else that's kind of fun. Alison Mutton, who is also a remote arkable singer, she

leads this song, um number seven. This is like one of the nightclub songs when they're all in the nightclub and like doing a big swing dance on stage and all the soldiers and the and the the soldiers are on one side of the stage and uh, go it. Finn is there and no one they've just enlisted in the army. And on the other side of the stage is the nightclub and Ali is meeting Lawn and his parents, and so it's like two things happening on stage at the same time. Um. So here's a little bit of

Alison Munt singing for our notebook soundtrack. Alright, so it's number seven. Hold my heart, Hold my heart, and don't let's go for you know very well you have caught me in your web. You've got me under your spell. I don't I don't know who I am well to touch me? Don't you understand your archists? Or the rush of your head makes me lose my EQUILIBRIU, my dear when you're whispering in my ear for you know very

well you've got me under yoursell it so cute. Surely maybe this is what we go back and do in Wilmington's Do we need to contact the Allion Hall and be like, hello, friends were doing a reunion tour. Wouldn't that be fun? I would love to. Sadly, the rights

actually don't belong to me anymore. Somebody else swooped him up during a There was a long stretch where um, they were Warner Brothers held the rights to the film and I held the rights to the book, and so there was a lot of stuff in the movie that wasn't in the book that you would want to have on stage. And it was just like so much you know, once lawyers get involved at all, just falls apart. Yeah, yeah, So unfortunately somebody else has the rights. I think, Um,

Kevin McCollum, who's a wonderful Broadway producer. Um, it's taking that over and Ingrid Michaelson is writing some new music for the show that they're going to do, Um, their own version of it in Chicago. I think maybe this fall. Um, So you know, it's cool to see that my idea is still living on and having a life of its own. It's a heartbreak for sure. I mean I spent like five years of my blood, sweat and tears pouring into that story. And the fact that, um, we had amazing,

like really seasoned Broadway producers who were ready. They came down to Wilmington's and saw the show. They saw our local cast, and they loved the show. And it wasn't perfect. It's a little long, some of the songs needed to be changed, we needed a few more pop songs, but whatever, Like the bones were all really there and they loved it. They were ready to do it. They were like, let's

get this off the ground. Um. And unfortunately the people who were in charge of holding the property making the decision about who was going to take on the mantle of this the name of the notebook, which was epic at the time. I mean it still is. Um, they never saw my show and they didn't listen to the music.

They just or I think they were just afraid that I was like twenty three, and you know, now it's cool to be twenty three and writing a Broadway show, but back then it was just terrifying, and everybody thought, you know, she's never done anything. The Notebook is a

huge name and she's not. Um Ron obviously now is producing for Springsteen and winning Grammy's, but back then wasn't, and so we just didn't have the street crend that I think the powers that be wanted whoever took over the Notebook to have, and so they just never listened to the music, never read the script, never heard the show, and just passed it on to somebody else. UM, And that sucked. It was really hard. But I did learn

a couple of things. One of them is that I have to stand up for myself more because I tried. I really tried to get them to listen to it and to and to read it. But I didn't try hard enough. I could have done more. I was just too afraid. And I've learned that lesson since then, that you just if you believe in something, and if it's if it's coming from you and it's you're passionate about it, it's your art. Like nobody else is going to fight for you the way that you will, you have to

go after it. And so that was really valuable. And then also learning that, um, I have good ideas, you know, I created that I did it. I went for it. Um, it's in somebody else's hands now, but I got that ball rolling. That was my idea. And so to have the confidence that in the next thing that I create and do, to know that my ideas are good and they sell and they'll work, Um, that was good, you know. So anyway, it's just cool to see that that is living on and having a life of its own. That's

kind of cool. Well did you so when you saw this movie though, because I remember having also a very big reaction to this movie. Did you ever did anyone? Oh? I don't think I did. That's not what I heard. That's not what I heard. What I heard I heard you made Tyler watch The Notebook and it affected him. That's actually totally probably true. I don't remember, but I think watch like while you guys were out on tour, and he was maybe when we were on tour, he

was like, she's so deep, man, so deep? Oh yeah, I mean I never did it like Bevin did it. But the truth is I was ready to force anyone to watch this movie because it changed my life. Those two hours changed my life. It reminded me in a time when I was honestly pretty hopeless about love, and I had basically given up on the idea of that overwhelming, all consuming loving, no matter what, self sacrificial, even when

it's hard, kind of love. And when I saw this film and then read the book immediately after, something was unlocked inside of me. That was just this a flood of passion and hope and it didn't stop. It was like reawakening those young dreams that we had in high school. You know, I mean, didn't you did you ever have that boy that that boy that when you were younger, like just evoked all of those dreams and feelings in you.

So in real life, in real life, when I wasn't working, I would just go drive around in rural, rural North Carolina and go find like old abandoned houses and things. And there was someone in town. I was in a relationship. So this other person and I were never going to work out ever, but it was very like, I love your art, I am attracted to your your essence, your

spirit so so impressive. Um. Yes, And we decided upon this like abandoned house in the middle of nowhere, and he was like, I'm either going to fix it up, I'm gonna burn it down and so for years. Sometimes I would just like drive past it and be like, Okay, well he hasn't burned it down. Um, I guess we're so good. Um. But it was a very It was such a rip off from this movie. It was just like, yeah, we're giving your own story. We're going to fix up

the old house and have this sordid Carolinian romance. Um fun man. Southern Southern romances are just unbeautiful to me. I think there's something so sweet about it. You've got the Spanish moss hanging off the trees and their hot air and the fireflies at night and water warm rain and the small town feel. There's just nothing as romantic to me as the South. Never will be well Hayley says in this episode, she goes, I'm just wishing it would rain rain. Yeah for that first kiss. See there

you go, first kiss in the rain. It was kind of notebookie. It was I love that Bevan did that to Skills. It was really cute. I loved watching Antoine and her have such great chemistry in this episode. But they were both outstanding. Um, and you know, I can't believe we got the rights to Nicholas Sparks Like brought his son to set, right, Yeah, yeah, that we felt real cool. We'd arrived. We had no idea people watched

our show because we were in North Carolina. So when you know, yeah, celebrity writer comes to set, We're like what, Oh, we were very excited about that. Yes, Nicholas Sparks is the most popular author on the planet in that moment, because the Notebook had like catapulted him, and so when he came to set, we were all just in awe that he or his kids were even remotely interested in us. And I can tell you, um, through inventing the musical, I became really good friends with Nick and he's actually

such a smart, deeply kind hearted person. And one of the things I think is really cool about him is that he's so curious. He's such a curious person, and I love that because I don't know, I feel like we're living in a time right now where curiosity has been pushed aside in favor of UM. I guess everybody's sort of looking out for themselves, like making sure that uh no one is offending them and making sure that

everybody's doing everything right. This sort of like mental policing has taken over and I miss the days of curiosity when you really were interested in why another person thought the way that they thought, or function the way that they function. Because so much great art comes from listening and just being curious. Um. And I think it's absolutely integral to being an artist and especially a writer. UM.

So anyway, I just wanted to mention that. But, UM, one thing that we haven't talked about yet is Rachel. Can we talk about Rachel? Um, let's talk about the Rachel of it all, because and we have talked about Barbara and Moira too. Oh that's right, that's right. Um, Rachel is all of us in this moment, because she says, do you really think there's one person in this world who's right for you? You're in high school? You also said the same thing about Peyton, you know, like really

one person in the whole world. UM. I appreciate her skepticism. Yeah, I do too. I think she's really smart. I mean, and I liked what Danielle had to say in our last episode about how she played Rachel as somebody who's been from school to school and has a very bird's eye view of the high school experience, which is unusual for someone in high school. And I think that that's a really valuable perspective that Rachel offered, even though she's still messy like we all are, and still trying to

figure out some of her own things. That was a pretty smart thing to say. I think she's right well, and she also says, she's like, seriously, what is with this school? Every single boy is in some like traumatic you know, puppy dog love thing. She's like, isn't anyone DTF? What is wrong here? Like? Who does she have to choose from? Tim? Yeah? Who else is even available? I don't know? Mouth leon Or had the other really good line he um was kind of an iconic line that

I have heard fans bring up. He said, I say, give me regret as long as I can keep the good memories too. Oh yes, yeah that you know. The Alzheimer's really was a theme in this episode, wasn't it? With a notebook and and then with his grandfather. Can I just tell you that I did not make that connection until you just said it right now. I'm like, wait, what double wammy? That's it. That's why it worked so much. I appreciate your sister, Thank you for carrying I've been

a sign no prop any times, we'll get there. But yeah, it's I love that line. You know this, maybe, maybe, maybe the theme of this episode is memories, because because Hailey's memories are being physically erased and mels memories are gone, and the memories in the notebook are a theme. And now Karen has the memory of her ex boyfriend looming over her in this great, big, giant billboard and she has to decide what she's going to do with that. She's gonna stoop to his level or rise above it? Yep,

I don't know. I mean, when's the last time you did some vandalism? Yeah, I think she should have just committed to it, say, just stuck with it, I mean whatever. Pulling it back and having the billboard for a rectile dysfunction was also pretty good luck was good luck. Yeah, it could have been anything. It could have been insurance under their yeah, a little frog. It could have been anything. But no, No, they pulled back the they pulled back all their artwork. It's too bad. I think they should

have committed to it. But it was certainly fun watching them get into a trouble. I remember Barbara finding out that she was going to have to be in her underwear and it was like a she worked out really hard. She was like so committed to making sure she looked amazing and she did. Yeah, she absolutely did. It paid off. Yeah, Barbara looks like a teenage the well we were saying they both looked like teenagers when they were just sitting on the ledge of the billboards and got a little ponytail.

She's so cute. It's you know, watching the show as an adult is so different because they're younger than us. They're right, Yeah, they're younger than us. They're and they're having to play these grown ups, and you realize that all the grown ups are faking it. I A is a grown up. I'm baking it. You're faking grown up nous adulthood. You know him a nightmare too? No wait, um, I think you're a nightmare. Yeah. If you were going to spray paint a billboard, m I don't know what

could make me get on a billboard? What would bother me so much that I had to tag that? Also, that cann of spray paint was like the weakest cann of spray paint I've ever seen in my life. It was so small. How are they going to get up there with the one. Yeah you said it looked like polish, like black shoe polish. Yeah, I don't know, um I, but I love that. Also, we've never seen any billboard ever in Tree Hill, and suddenly we have a billboard. That's kind of funny. Leave it to Dada. To Dan,

we didn't Yeah, what do we got? Should we spin a wheel? Yeah? I want to spin a wheel most likely too well, most likely to run away and join the circus circus like acrobatics, like just like bail on life and be like, guys, I'm out, I'm gonna go so the circus. I think that would be fun. Who is an adult that doesn't have any responsibilities that could do that? Though? I feel like we have friends that have done that, have done this kind of stuff, like,

oh yeah, I have friends who have done that. Were you doing like an acrobatics course, like a silk acrobat Like, who has done that? Yeah? I do. That's that's like one of my past times that I enjoy as aerial silks. Yeah, joy, it's you Like, I have responsibilities. I can't like run away and join the circus. I mean, I guess we are in the circus, right that's what we do for

a living. I literally texted, so it's Gus. Gus has uh sixth grade exams this week, and I'm on a text thread with all the other parents and they're freaking out because the history exam is worth a huge chunk of the grade and they're like, you know, very stressed out about this. And I literally said, well, my husband and I are dropouts and we don't care about tests. So if any of your children would like to run away and join the circus with the Morgans, we have

open arms. Yes, I mean that's our industry. We are the circus. It will accept freak that wants to come play. Yeah, that's how I feel. This isn't all of the above answer, I think. So I don't know who from the show with what character would run away? I guess Chris Keller, Yes, that's he's most likely too for sure? Yeah? Or if or is it someone with like a secret life? Like is there something we don't know about Junk? Is Junk like really good with big cats? Like maybe he's got

some sigre Roy energy? G feels like a wild card too sweet? Kelsey m hm, Hey, at Lease wants to know why is every room and tree Hill painted red? Is it except Luke's room and the five minutes that Peyton painted hers? There must be a technical reason for that. Why so many red walls are there? I've never noticed that in all these years. I never never noticed that at all. No, I wish I had an answer for that question. I'd sadly do not, But now you'll have

to as a technical question. I think maybe it's just like to like a color scheme theme. Perhaps, well, so if you guys notice, I know some people ask questions about like hair colors sometimes. Um, there's definitely a filter. On our show, they were using kind of a warm orange filter to make everything seem really like homeie. And you know, it's crazy what the eye can do. It helps tell a story. And so if it's got that warm hue to it, the audience automatically feels warmer. So

having colors that work well with that filter is important. Um. True, I don't know the green is going to show up great with an orange filter, you know what I mean? But a rich amber, beautiful red velvet. It's such a funny thing for someone to have noticed. I guess maybe an interior designer, maybe Alice are you. It's gonna be like the Lamp's Joy. Now that we've heard it, We're going to see them everywhere. We'll never see anything else,

I'm sure. Well, you know, since I never get to play this music for anybody, why don't I like we can say goodbye and then I can just sort of leave a few songs at the end for people. Let's just play three of them, so guys, I'll play for you. Um. This one of them is called A Sweet Country Home. This is when Noah an Alley or characters inspired by Noah and Ali. I don't know if I have to

say that for like legal reasons. I don't know. The birds just two Southern love birds, um, And they're in a house and the house is all dilapidated and falling apart, but they're dreaming about what it would be like if they, uh, if they lived together in this home and built it up. And then I'll also play you something called the Colors Play, which was inspired by a scene when, um, the two of them are walking down a street. They're just meeting.

It's their first date, late at night, and he's really trying to win her over, and she's talking about all the things that she has to do and all her responsibilities, and then he's just like, what do you love? Tell me what you love? And then she sings about what she really loves to do. It's just to paint. And then the last one I'll play for you is something about when they're getting torn apart and uh. In my version, she goes away with her family on the train and

so Noah uh. Inspired by Noah from The Notebook, he sings Paul Teal, who is later on Our show as I directed him in his first episode on Our show as one of the movie stars in the movie that was made about Peyton and Lucas's romance member based on Like Lucas or is of thing he might have played Lucas. Yeah, I forgot you know you know me and my memory.

I forgot Old Teal was a really wonderful improv actor in Wilmington's He was part of the improv troop at Level five and like joined when he was in high school. He was a baby that got to play with the bigs, right, So I love that he really really talented guy. And so this is really his song, which incidentally, for fans of the music tour that I went on with Tyler

and Michelle Branch. This is a song that I actually sang a lot on tour and incorporated it into my my UM fan version of the notebook is that like the Fan the Unofficial Britain is that kind of what we're doing. It's fan. I love it. I'm also going to add in a couple more songs since it's the only place that any of y'all can hear this music. Um Think of Me is the song that is played after that song that you heard Alison mun sing uh in the nightclub where now the soldiers are really going

to war. And so there's a character I think I invented. I don't think she's in the book, Maxie, who is one of Ali's best friends and Um incidentally has a romance with finn Uh and she is singing in the nightclub. She's like the nightclub singer, and she's guss Is. I think I made her Guss's daughter, and Gus is in the novel and he's an older black man who is Noah's father's best friend who it's complicated anyway, Maxie sings

this song think of Me um in the nightclub. So one side of the stage the nightclub is all slow dancing, and it's all silk and soldiers and beautiful um and this very sad song. On the other side of the stage is General Patton and Finn and the soldiers at war, and so that's all happening at the same time. And I would like to say, if you've seen the London production of Who From Here to Eternity, they actually do this on stage, which is so funny because I wrote

this like six or seven years before that came out. Um. It always made me wonder if one of the producers that saw our show I thought it was a good idea and then passed on the word, but or maybe it was just a good idea and somebody else had it too. But it's an interesting device that I had never seen on stage before, and so it's kind of fun. So you'll hear that, You'll hear Some one forty eight, which is meant to be sung by Gus at Frank Noah's father's funeral, and Through the Storm is the last

one you'll hear. Through the Storm is a song for the older couple inspired by Noah and ali Um as they walk through her journey with Alzheimer's. So there you go. Thanks. Thanks so much you guys for joining us for this really weird episode. Okay, I hear you've rented the old Mare place. Where do you live the rest of the year in Charleston? It's not too far away, although now Mom and Daddy and i'd be going to look colleges.

And I like the idea of Sarah Lawrence, but it's all the way in New York, and I just don't know if I'm ready to leave Carolina altogether. SAP. I have to decide soon. Noel got the rest of this year? Well, what are you like where? What do you mean? Well, I mean it seems like even when you're out having fun, you're worried that you're having too much fun. And I'm just one of them. Well, I never see you out playing around. I'm busy. I don't have a lot of

time for playing around. I'm busy busy. What do a couple of kids like us gotta be busy with? Oh lots. I got my whole schedule planned out for me. And what does that look like? Well, first arithmetic, I'm terrible attitude. And then there's music. This week is chopin Current Events? Have you heard they're writing in Manhattan, Oh Latin. Then tennis with Pierre and dance with Andri, then lunch on

the pier while I studied the sea. They're calling it now marine biology French on the all days voice on the rest, Housekeeping Fridays, though my room's still a mess, Junior League Tuesday. Though it's hard while I'm here, somehow I manage all this all year. Wow, that sounds like the road to success. Oh, yes, well we mom and Daddy. Now we feel very strongly about getting into a good college. A good education is really the key. Some girls are wasted,

but that won't be me. I'm certainly a successful and meaningful life as a wife and a working No need to grow part of the world making plans, making money on badies. Close your eyes, painting, what fun I like to paint? Tell more, tell me every when they become so full. I'm gonna cream when I'm dazzy with the every tarante, when I'm almost up to here with the voices that I hear. Think, Elly be wimms the lesson. See when you've been speaking to it for the sake. Ally, No,

there's a long lowisland through the drees. The honey bees will catch a breeze from far away, and then I'm lonesome and my heart is at bay. My fun the lonesome disappears with canvas near the colors play, And while I am listening to the dreads across the sea, Comma teasing Lollaba, she will tell me how to stay locked in, my friend. I never mind the Brussian line, the Prussian paint a week. I can't imagine anything more awful and

unfair than wasting all your lifetime making plans. It may be just a feeling, but the feeling that I've got says this life and me we're gonna be each other as greatest fans. When I paint, I can see it all is clear. My dreams are right within my reach. No, try a fair Oh it's not in grin. I just know I've been mad for the rechest of the lives you're inside the Prussian white colors play, the Prussia my color play. What is this place? Brings a plantation built

in seventeen seventy two. I will buy it some day and fix it up. Well, don't I get to say in this? You want to say this? Honey, I've got mine the sweet country home where the mocking birds sing, and the moon shines along the river, where we will be happy as to envy. I've got designs on a white country home where the shutters are blue and the sun shines along or wrap around port, where three or

four can be happy as you and me. Then after the sun goes down, well caught up by the river, this old, sleepy turn will never be the wiser as weet dream away those sweet saturdays, sing summertime blues, and laugh at the ways of the easy life, that lush lazy life. Indeed happy just you and me, Scarlet, look you,

it's it's so much brilliant, Frank, you are beautifully. But after the sun was down, well cut up by the river, this sult sleepy down where never be the wiser as rich in the way sun days some summertime and life at the waysibly easy life, bad lush lazy life, and be happy, just you and me. He is trash, trash, Mamma. You don't know anything about him, know what. He's a good man. He's not good enough for you. You can't provide a good are for your honey. He's just a

country boy. Pretty boxes of diamonds, of ribbons and pearls, maybe her heart's desire. What if she's fooling herself and me and everyone else into thinking that she's as free as a winded love? But I know too well and she never tell and nightly breaker Heart. Pretty boxes can be such curious things when you know what's inside a strong will and wings, and it's only a matter of time before they go. She'll try to live a simple life,

but simple lives are not for everyone. I know to well, and she'd never turn and I only biger ahly ohly break cued. No, I'm sorry, No, you know a couple, Yes, sir, you gotta let her here for you. I can't reading. No, I'm sorry. I hate that. I can't believe they really doing this, and they really tearing us apart. Summer love, she said, laft it on the summer love. But she doesn't know you like I do. No, one, No, Ali,

don't talk to me. Oh this is just silliness. Ali, Oh sugar, I know you think that I don't know what you're going through, but I do listen to me. I do. It's just that sometimes our future is dictated by what we are, as opposed to what we want. I'll just try to understand that. Honey. That's all I'm gonna say. I love you, Ali, I just want what's best. I hope that is still love me after I have gone up. You still hope my heart beside you? Oh no,

no summer romances and for all kinds of reasons. But all said and down, they have one thing in common. They're shooting stars, a spectacular moment of light in the heavens, glasses of t and the flush there. But that can't happen to us now on no matter what they do, no matter who tries to keep us apart, I will come back to you for me. If you still love me, right to me and tell me so, and I will come back to you on a Sunday like the day

in then I'll take a tray. No no me loving you all m h Sundays all need to dates wit already they same. Your train was coming in made oh weak, it's cold it tonight and the fireflies cold lights up to evening like Christmas. Aim as your rise. Before I let you go on a Sunday train. I can hear the wet soul blow when you wear on a Sunday train.

I can hear the steeple bells ringing in our refrain and I say good bye and again and again because I can't get it out of my hand, and the wait, my god, we for every Sunday chain m. Time's passing on and still no reply. You said you loved me, and maybe I'm crazy, but I can't let this die. They said it might snow, and they'll probably be rain and winds's gonna blow. I'll be here just the same because I don't want to miss you, and baby, I miss you. Come on back this wain on a suddeny train.

I can hear the wind so love you. Wait on a Sunday chrea. I can hear the steep blue bells creen in our refraind and I say good bye again and again because I can't get you out of my hand, And no, wait na go away. I'll wait n going, I'll wait night going for every Sunday dream. You'll hear a fight ahead of your life. Battle that means one thing to afford to be a fool. Because the battle fool mean dead men inevitable for men be killed and

wounded in battle. There's no reason why it. Such lost increase called the incompetence careless of something stupid as told me, I don't tolerate such a man on my stack. All right, folks, Max is going to slow it down a little for you, sub grab your gals and coming out to dance. Think of me when another's arms are open world to the enemy. Think of me, lorn d you love me too, and same name, perhapsally wildly across the sea. I'll close my eyes,

isn't if I try back in your embrace? All be thinking morning the boy with me every top of the morning we don't like and burning home lights, getting lonely and core young. Think of me on the mind when we called the one views so when we said we'd club, drum again on me? You kiss I can misister. Think of me, Darling while you are gone, when up attack baking, stay here doing about amos stake, butt up your right back, and not night but down hand. You would have not

that without you, and simply a shell. Think of me when all you hear cries in the dark. Think of me. Recall the way I whisper to you and real hard was aking. I confessed, hum and I were made for love and tenderness. Won't you think of me, Darty when you are God. Praise the Oh, Praise the Lord from the heavens. Praise the Lord. Praise him, all his angels, all his home. Praise him, son and mone and all you stars at night, let them pray it. Praise a

name of Jeesesus. Praise the Lord, all the earth and allver deep you lightning, hail, fall and frost. You star me with fulfilling his call, mountains, hilled foodful trees, and see beast and all cattle, creeping things and flying birds, Kings of the people, princess and rule, judges off the earth, men, young men, men and children, le bred, all my heir and sprays along. Praise him, all his ages, all his holes, Praise him. Sudden mood and all save tonight. Let them praise,

praise and her jeess euse. Days go by memories in my head. They sing like ships and sunset leaving well. Get y'all a life, fire house, falling through the storm and to the dark, still with the kiss to breathe back to. Don't want to fread any more, try to without a fair without and die through go to see

cap fund atich. I never lches sleep b don't want any more trite I love will fother you my days call pine mymoes in my sing like ship, and susme h. Lon is good, Lon is kind, lon is steady and patient, and make sure that I'm taken care of. Lone is true, no one true. Lone is loyal and spoils me. So he's a good man, a fine man. I know. It's appalling how ungrateful you are. There are many other places you might have landed. There are many worse fates to before many women than to have a man who is

kind and good and true. It's so silly, how romantic you are in your quiet moments, how you long for his timet But he's no more than an ambotion in your past. Everything's change now, Hello, Hi, Betsy. Routine conversation, routine conversation, nothing too suspicious, Everything is fine, routine conversation. All right, then goodbye? What kind of fool am I to go to all this trouble, go to lying and deceiving for a boy that I once knew it was seven years ago, for God's six seven years, And here

I am. What kind of fool does this? I ask you? What kind of woman tells the man she loves she loves him? And then leaves him as a safety net in case the one she loves more doesn't love her. No, not really anymore. What kind of woman wouldn't stop herself and march right out the door. And yet here am I with my best dress and my favorite perfume, my heart laid down like a pig on a platter, and all a flutter like a butterflyne juune, Oh dear me, bless my soul. I'm just a fool. Hello, Hi London.

Routine conversation, routine conversation, nothing too suspicious, Everything is fine. Routine conversation. Yes, I found a dresser. It will be delivered Friday in the afternoon, if that's all right with you, I love you too, Goodbye. Now I have to find a dresser from someone who deliver. God, what kind of woman must I be to be so selfish, to be lying left and right and feeling barely guilty of it. It's appalling and exhilarating. I'm a mess and loving every minute.

I'm it all for shame. But what kind of woman in my situation wouldn't do the same. Besides, every woman likes her best dress and her favorite but perfume, even if there's no one who cares to notice well than I guess I'll be no worse off than I started, and I know, Bless my soul, I've been a fool. It's amazing how much more grown you. Oh, always pretty in your youth, but now a woman. There are many new things still to learn in my hasten and a dream from years ago, too late to rast. Excuse me.

If I receive any calls while I'm out, will you please tell them I'll be back late this evening. Thank you, m Routine conversation, routine conversation, nothing too suspicious and everything is hot. Routine conversation. Just seeing an old friend, no, no, no, nevery, and my best dress and my favorite red perfect. Oh, bless my soul, I'm just a fool in my best

dress and my favor perfume. Breathe then breathe out standing bird on my knee, breathe and breathe out speaking, but my heart say we want so through search, search, A million moments before this he is off. I would stand beside you as you darken the door. We go in

Gun's place and bring that temple to dis knees. Oh, there's some strange power in you and me we heaven breath and taking in my home all head didn't reading and with one looking car scones, we lived hunder lives before searching a million moments for this, and I war all moon. I would stand inside you as you're dark and daston were going God's plas and bring left double

to his knees. And there was some strange past in you and me teaching, and so I for start every we spurn wine times year my love time, every whispering, I would weigh a thousand years more. I would stand aside you as we talk in death to We're going to plaze and pain that double chose knees O this side, strange strange power in you and ye love me. Hey, thanks for listening. Don't forget to leave us a review. You can also follow us on Instagram at Drama Queens O t H or email us at Drama Queens at

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