Passing Notes w/Danneel Ackles (Rachel Gatina) • EP306

the Fantasy boy Draft. You guys, we're gonna give you the rundown on this. But not to be confused with the boy Toy auction. That's it. It was like they were like, you know what's worked in the past. We did we do the boy toy already, the boy toy action already, The boy to auction was season one. Yeah, they were like, we like, we like hot ass, and so to join us for this selling boys body episode

was our wonderful friend. Danielle Harris sackles ull Well, listen, a lot happened this episode, and Rachel was the spicy center of a lot of it. Uh to prevent the cheer squad from fighting for the same guy, Brooks sets up this fantasy boy draft. It backfires as predicted. Um Hailey continues to work with Chris Keller as he pushes her to write better music than Mayoral Race heats up between Dan and Karen, and Lucas is having so much trouble keeping up with the pace of basketball. It's just

things some dramatic in this week. It's a inchense. We wanted you to come back for Rachel's introduction because it was the perfect curveball for our show, and since we didn't get we needed her energy. Let's go back because as long as we're like looking at boy bodies in this episode, we might as well go back and remember the full display that you had to do with your cheerleading audition. Um, yeah, what was like? Hell the hell did you end up on our show? What happened? Oh

yeah that's right? Yeah, well huh, I auditioned, But when I auditioned, I didn't have to do that dance. There was no Um, I mean, look, full disclosure. I was a cheerleader, but I was always the one that was like in the back row and I was a bass I was like the lifter of girls, and I was like never the one who could follow along with the steps, and I was always the one who was like counting along with my mouth one like person. So it's like the kid in the play that's always mouthing other people's

lines to them. Yes, yeah, So I was always in the back. And so with with Rachel and like her, you know her first, you know her. Her introduction is you have to learn an dance. And I remember getting the dance when I got to set, and I was like, oh, they think I'm like a real performer who could just like learn this in a day, like I need a month for this, like I needed to. So it was a lot um and I think it was to the Whisper song. It was really gross. Turn up the volume

is very scary. It's um. It's pretty scandalous. Gus is obsessed with Star Wars right now, and I was explaining to him the viral sensation that was Star Wars Kid, like around that time, do you guys remember that video totally? And so we repeated it in those cheerleading tryouts we had like a Star Wars kid, and so I went

to show him that. I was like look, we referenced this in One Tree Hill and then all of a sudden, Rachel comes out and starts doing her dance, and I had to like like, he's like, oh, that's Danil, and I'm like, we're not gonna look at Antonia like this. Yeah, oh my god. I don't remember how many times you too. I saw you this weekend and you told me you auditioned for a different character. Yeah, so I auditioned for Brooke, and at least I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure it

was Brooke. I was going through a record collection and being really bitchy, um, but not in a bitchy Peyton way, So I'm pretty sure that it was. So they loved you and brought you back then for this. Did you have to audition again for Rachel? Or was it like we remember how much we love that girl call her? No, So it wasn't like a giant audition. I do remember that. It was just like, you know, maybe like kind of

us or something. Yeah, but there there were a couple of girls, and but I do remember specifically there was no dancing required and I was not told about any of that. And then I get there and I was just like, so nervous, and I had to meet you guys all. I met all of you in like a Pamela Anderson outfit that was super tight. It was Clether was buying way, it was Vinyl. I don't it was so it was nerve wracking. We have talked about that dress because I had as Peyton and as Hillary had

zero problem with it. Was just like, oh my god, look at her calves, like this is amazing, amazing. And what I like about the way you play Rachel, is I suppose any of those other girls auditioning could have played some of these lines really bitchy, like oh, is that your boyfriend? You know? And Rachel from the jump earnestly asks brook She's like, oh, I'm so sorry, is

that your boyfriend? And Brooks the one that keeps saying no, no, no, and so yeah, so Rachel doesn't necessarily get with Brooke until Brooke is like clearly offended by her presence, and it kind of it doesn't make sense. It's yeah, that really feels like, yeah, it's kind of all on Brook right now. I mean, and Rachel's seems to be having a little fun with having fun with her about it because she's clearly so bothered, and Rachel is clearly so

not bothered. But you know, when you see somebody that's all worked up about something, it's fun like do you like to push a button here and there? I don't, but there are several kinds of people, and some people like to just find a poke buttons a little bit when you see somebody who's really worked up. Um, I don't know. I just this whole episode. I'm like, Rachel so nice, She's a friendly and in genuine th I was, um, who was it? I was really into a Vonage Public

the coach. She was like a famous acting coach. I think she's passed away now, but she both this really great book, um, and I remember for this specifically, for this audition, I went back um through her book and

I used some of her techniques. And what I discovered with Rachel is you never needed to play Rachel Bidgie, and if you did, you know that that no one was really going to respond to her because the lines by themselves were so terrible that if you didn't say it with a smile or didn't say it with like, you know. I always gave Rachel the backstory of you know, her parents, traveled and she has been in a thousand schools and she expects to leave Tree Hill. Um, she

does not expect to be there. She's there, and what how was it like we were sophomores or you go to the junior year because we have one where year left to school. Okay, So I mean she was just like, well, this is like I've spent two previous years in different schools. Now I'm going to be here for just a second. And like and I wasn't supposed to be a series regular.

I was only a recurring guest star. So it played that played end of my back that was in my head of like I'm just popping in here for a minute like I do every school and it's more fun. I'm just like what, like, okay, y'all are going to get all serious. Everybody's worked up about this, but I'm going to leave in a minute, so it doesn't matter.

I don't need to invest too much. So her lines to me were always just kind of they needed to be more flippant, more like that's so smart and it tracks when I watch your performance, I see that choice. Oh it's senior year. We just had that big beach party where we're like it's our last year of high school. That almost lends itself to be flip because it's like, guys, we're out of here. Yeah, don't be you and your little boyfriends so cute, Yeah, you're not going to know them.

And Rachel would never know anybody long term because of moving so much. So it's you know, she doesn't develop those really strong relationships, and I think later later on, not to be a spoiler, but that's I think that's why she whole so close to mouth when they do become friends, because that really was her only true friend at Tree hill Brook a little but they always it got good and then it was what was high school like for you? For real? I mean I know that you.

I listen. I told on you. I told the other girls that you were a pageant queen because that picture of you with the puffy sleeves and the scepter is like my favorite picture. It's my favorite throughout my life various friends. I Like, it's one of those things where like I'll go over to people's house and they've found it on the internet and tried it about, Like okay, classic, I've seen this like a thousand times. I'm gonna get a cardboard cut out of it and just have it

here in the office. Culture queen, And you know what, I'm proud of my Cajun culture and I can tell you a lot about it. Um. It was just like a thing to do where I grew up. Everybody did it and I only did that one pageant. That was it for me. I wasn't like a I did and I won. What do you want? I didn't want my one. I was like, okay, I checked that. But you know, I did a lot of things in high school. I was like A had a lot of different, um, different

friend groups. And you know, I changed high schools myself more year or let's see, middle of my freshman year, I changed from like a really small high school to a really big high school, and so I got to kind of reinvent myself. I think, um, as much as you can do in a town with like, you know, three red lights. So I reinvented myself when everyone was like no, no, you're no, You're still a bad girl. We already know. But high school for me was fun.

I don't have any like bad memories of high school. I enjoyed it. I mean, sure, I got my feelings hurt, and I probably hurt feelings, but all in all, it was a good experience. Nothing quite like Tree Hill. I would say, yeah, but these kids go through no offense to all the people I went to high school with. But like Tree Hill, it's like one of the most beautiful high school. Like did you see all the cute

boys like that? The cheerleaders are super cute, Like I think like this was during that super mode of like CW casting or Warner Brothers casting where they're like, literally, every face has to be you know, every face, every face has to be magical. That was a lot to look up to, though, because that's what you went to the c W four if you were an audience member, like you knew, yeah, every it was just all pretty. And that was the trope and the joke right about

the network, like it's just all pretty people. Yes, I don't know, Yeah, well they were they were beautiful. I noticed that about Tree Hills, Like, Wow, this is a good looking high school. Who would you have picked in the boy draft? Who would have your who would I think it'd be a toss up between well, I think Nathan because just because we were watching him run back and I'm like this is a cute guy, like yeah, probably, I don't know, probably not Lucas, because are we talking

about me or Rachel? You know, we can we can be safe and say Rachel, like, who do you think Rachel? I think Rachel would be into um all the philosophical poetry and all that. I think she would maybe roll her eyes and I wouldn't want to be update with someone as Rachel. And they and they're like starting to quote poetry like I'm so yes, I think just Nan, Chris Keller, I'm taking like all of your men um joy Sorry those two maybe O. See why do I slap you in later events? Don't like a drink in

your face? You drinking? Why why do we fight? We fight in an episode coming up soon, right? Why do we fight? I throw a drink in your I do something with your husband? Oh? Because you were after Nathan. That's right. Yeah, she did actually decide. Yeah, that's what it was. I don't know what happens to her. I

mean she has to overcome. I mean there was like you know, she was heavier in her younger years, and and Brooke put all those pictures up of her, so she's embarrassed in front of the the whole high school, so I think, like, then she starts to retaliate, she becomes yeah, but um yeah, you throw a drink on me and then slapped me. Do I slap you? Because you're pressing so many altercations on this show. I feel like you were pregnant, so I would I don't feel like I would have hit you, I think too, So

maybe it's next next season. Well, it's girl fighting that kicks off this whole boy draft, this idea that like the cheerleading squad is just fighting over boys. Um yeah, and like physically fighting with each other. Bevin and one of the other cheerleaders have each other in like headlocks. I love how much screen time Bevan got this episode. It was crazy. I don't remember that, but it's awesome and I want to see, like, I want to see more of her character with skills. Chemistry was so good.

It was really unexpected to it was scene. To me, that was the most interesting scene of the episode because there was just so there was like a little fireworks happening on camera. It was great. Yeah, I can't wait till they come on the podcast. Well, we've had but we need to get them together. They're both comedic actors, and usually on our show, we use our comedic actors to lighten up the straight men. So like Lucas would get haired with Gills to lighten then you know, Peyton

gets paired with people to lighten up. Um. When we have these scenes where we've got two great comedic actors working together, that's why the Skills Barbara stuff is so good. You know, we don't get to do a lot of it. It's usually just kissing and crying everyone I want a giggle, you know. But I liked I I agree, I really liked that. It was good. It was very sexy. We also had a cameo in this episode, um, a guest star, Julianna Gwill who is now she's still working now. She's

starring in Joe Pickett alongside Michael Dorman. He just did a movie with Sophia Oh that's right. Yeah, yeah, I can't remember the name of it. Yeah, she was great. I remember her. Like in this specific episode, the director for some reason kept making our stay that line skills to Bevan, Yes, over and over and like I just remember that in my head, Like the minute she said skills to Bevan, I had like a traumatic flinch. I was like, I just remember sitting on that couch and

something was going wrong. I don't know if it was like technical or whatever it was, but it was like she kept having to say that line, and then she ended up like being so upset. You know. It was just remember that room being just a bit difficult that day. But she was great and she um. She went out and did a movie after that that was kind of big.

It was like a high school films. I love seeing people who are still working in the industry and still like making stories and making great movies pop up in their early early beginning days pop up on our show. She was also on Friday the thirteen. Yeah, I was gonna shared padillacky. Yeah, we're going to the premiere of that and seeing her and I was like, oh my gosh, so yeah, you know, we can talk about that boy draft.

We don't have to talk about things in order. Because when we saw that this was the episode we were watching, we were all like, oh oh, because this is a hard one they had to shoot. They had like three girls in a room, and not only are you supposed to know your own lines, but you're supposed to know everyone else's lines so you can rapid fire like, you know, talking right after. Yeah, it was impossible, and the director, I think, got very frustrated with us, and then it

was kind of grouchy. Anyway, she did one episode of our show and was like, I'm never talking again, never again. Um, yes, that is what that is what I remember the minute I thought. I also remember not understanding the boy draft at all, and I watched it again and I still don't understand. And I don't understand fantasy football draft, so and I don't know how that works. So maybe that's

why I'm so confused. But I was watching it, I was like, I don't get it, Like was explaining it right, yeah, Brooks explaining it, and I still had trouble figuring out what the actual So so nobody's allowed to like that that's the boy that you can chase for the entire season and no one else can chase after him. I don't like, is that what it is? I don't understand.

I don't I don't get it. I don't like the whole Like I don't know when you're sixteen years yeah, sixteen, seventeen years old, like you've got to pick one, you know, like you're supposed to be chasing three or four at any even times, real live version of Masha. Like we were trying to do, you know, the piece of paper Mash Mary and the apartment shack house or whatever. Man, Oh that's what is mansion apartment shack house. You never did this, Hillary? Of course, I did this, of course.

But I was always like I want to live in a castle with bats, and you know, like I want to marry a vampire. I feel like Brooke was trying to create her own live, real life version of Mash. Yeah, everybody. Everybody gets to pick. Then I remain confused by I don't know what we were doing, but I knew I had to pick Lucas and it was to piss Brook off. So that was the only do you guys have like girl code when you were growing up? Like, was it like you and your friends made agreements like we're not

going to like the same guy. Yeah, but it never worked, right, Yeah, exactly. I remember I remember me and my friend both going out with the same guy like in fifth grade or something, fifth or sixth grade, and it was like, yeah, we're both his girlfriend were so progressive. It worked for like four days. Yeah, in high school. I just I was in a very small town. So by nature, you were going to date somebody that somebody else's had already been with.

But sometimes that's good because you can learn a lot before you get into that relationship. So my best friend and I dated guys in so our senior year. We dated college boys and they were best friends. They had graduated two years before us, and they were best friends, and we were best friends, and we would like double date and like super cute until did your parents know? My mom would have killed me up in the same town. We've known these guys since we were little. Like it's

not like they were like mysterious older guys. I've known them since they were like, you know, nerdy fifth grade. Immediately after graduating high school, my boyfriend was I was like, yeah, guys, come, it's like you and year old when I was at nineteen two. Yeah, poor choices. But these boys decided that they wanted to switch. They decided that I was a better fit for her boyfriend and she was a better fit for my boyfriend, and they decided they went out

progressive guys. Know. I was the bitch that was just like we're done here, We're done everyone. Oh you didn't want to I'm done here. Didn't Shania Twain do that? No, dude, I completely left the quadrant. I left the quadran. Oh that's rights. Yeah, who did with who? Her husband started cheating on her with the the best friends. They're the little couple they were best friends with I think, yeahall we have to go back and look. But then and

then they do other too. Were kind of like bonding with each other about it or something, and then they started there was and so now is that the situation? They just did a full switchero and now everybody's happy again. They're still dinner parties. It's still just like, I don't know how happy it is. Maybe yeah, I don't know if they hang out there dosie dough. But disclaimer, none of us know Shania or anything about her life. She wants to come on and tell us all about it.

We're totally yeah, should I come explain? Yeah, I'm into it. Well, um, because this episode felt to me like it was a placeholder. Yeah, nothing happened, and all the things that were supposed to seem really meaningful, like Lucas's speeches and even a couple of moments with Nathan and Haley, I guess, and it all just felt like kind of a filler, like they couldn't figure out what to do with this episode and they just said, well, let's just do something found nothing matters.

Is it a spec script? Oh that's interesting, because here's the deal. When they're hiring new writers or when they're like bringing new people into the writer's room, a lot of times they're like, just write a standalone episode so that we can pop it in whenever we need to pop it in. And this one really doesn't connect to anything, you know. You know, the only connections are the Dan and Karen stuff and Dan and I always want to call her Barbara Dan and Debb just and those are

just continuations of a storyline that already started. But there's no real progression in either of those storylines. They just kind of think her moving that sign was a big deal. I didn't understand shouldn't deface it or anything. I just totally I was like, okay, so you got it, move and you put a little bumper sticker on the back. As an adult. Nice though as an adult toy, we're

so much more capable of vandalism at this age. Absolutely, what would do did you do it, What would you mean at least like popped a giant poop emoji on the head or I don't know, done some more with the with the like there should have been more diarrhea, oh more, you want to always yeah that, Like I guess we weren't. It was too early in the series to like actually see a poop stain or maybe that would be like standards and practices would be like no, no,

no no, But I wanted to see a poop stain. Um. I love that Paul was so committed to that, like when he was in Karen's cafe yelling at her and then like the way he kind of hobbled off. I love he was like so game for anything. Yes, Um, but I thought there was some really good like um, Brooke Rachel lines in there, and like there was definitely a lot of like if I look on my Instagram, some of those scenes are always on there because it's

like the totally Beaches moment. Loved that line. Love. Um, just some of the early Brook Rachel face offs, I think, and those were so much fun to shoot, Like I just remember like being done with those and then laughing because they were so ridiculous and um, you know you out biting each other. It takes a big personality to stand up to Brook, you know, like, yeah, you cannot be a little bit intimidated or insecure. You have to outbrooke Brook in order to play the game with her.

And so watching you two together it's so fun because this is the first time we've actually seen Brook kind of insecure, like she wasn't insecure. She knew exactly who she was with Erika marsh you know, yeah, this is fun. It's I also like the way when there's the Hailey Brooke interactions, because like Brooke and Haley is just like yeah, anyway, and it's like just so grounded and it's just like these two I love it, Um, I love watching them.

That's like every conversation you'll have in that episode was like that it is we have we end up seeing. Yeah. I loved seeing Brooke and Haley really getting a chance to to play ball and bat around their friendship. And in the last season this season, it's been really fun. I like watching real Chris, Like, you want to talk about chemistry, You and Tyler have such good chemistry on this show, and so Chris that that segue between um them talking about something sucking and then Crisp being like

the song sucks, you know. Yeah, it was a great segue and the only thing that's good about that song besides it being over. They always gave him great lines. He really did. Yeah, him hair as me in that episode hair color. I don't remember his hair. I don't remember his hair being red. I don't know why I was remember. It might have just been the light in the room, but it was filter. Yeah, there was like a neon, like a neon sign in that room, I think. Um.

But he is a good catalyst for Haley. The conversation that you guys have in the recording studio is great because he's like, he's doing exactly what Nathan wants him to do, and that's to push her and get her to stop lying or stop pretending or being safe. Um. And it is weird that he's the only person that can do that. And then when he comes into the cafe and he puts her name on the board, I totally forgot about that. What I thought you did that

when Chris, Oh no, she's talking about earlier when Chris came. Yeah, that was really sweet and I love the Scott at

the end. You know what made me think of that, because they It made me think of wanting to explain to the audience how they get those shots, because the shot of Haley putting the Scott sticker on the map transitions into the shot of the Scott letters on a what is it a locker or a jersey or something, But they have to measure that so specifically with the camera to make sure that there the letters are going to line up exactly so that they can transit, and then how to pull back from that to get to

the actor's face. Because you're going from a super super super extreme close up and then pulling back out to a regular size. You could be there for like over an hour sometimes on each end, trying to make sure that you get the get you get the sizes exactly right. And I always think those things are interesting for people who don't work in our industry to know that you just see a cool shot. Oh that's so cool they transitioned on the Scott name. That's neat. But um, sometimes

the technical stuff is kind of fun to learn. So there you go totally. People are always like it takes you all how long to make a forty minute episode? Over a week eight days, because where are we eight days? Yeah, you're right, yeah, we spent seven of them, like holding cupcakes in your apartment in this episode. The cupcakes. Okay, so listen, the props department is who supplies the cupcakes, right, they have to go out and get all the fake food.

But they didn't get like three cupcakes for all thirty seven of these girls to eat in every single take. So the directors thought they might have thought I was just going to put them, you know, on the on the counter, or that's what they because they had meetings prior to this, like um tone meetings and all these different sorts of meetings where everything is discussed, and it was probably said that I would just put the cupcakes

on the counter and then maybe on the day. The director was like no, no, no, she passes them out and she wanted everyone to take bites of the cupcakes, like I remember that being like She's like, these gotta look like these girls love these cupcakes. So that Brooke is upset, and so we all have blue mouths because you know that icing from the grocery store, because that has kids and it is like a disaster that stuff. It doesn't come on, come on, the Great Cupcake Battle

of the Fantasy Boy Draft. It's so stupid the things that you remember. It's so stupid because it's like it's like we've we filmed for eight days, but the cupcakes are the things where I'm like, oh, not those things. Yeah, do you know what I have for you? Guys? I have a present for you. Um. Sometimes my hoarding pays off, and I have hearded this Mouth McFadden boy draft card for the last like years. It's got stats on the

back on how do I Okay, yeah, read them. It says number one for your consideration, height five seven, weight one In what world was Mouth one? Ninety? Okay? Our department got a little creative. Here says born ten, ten eighty nine. Okay, so we know that Mouth's birthdays ten birthday. It says I'm the nice guy. You've been waiting for exclamation mark and then bullet pointed. Uh, like on our

resumes when we have to do special skills. Um, it says stylish, smart, sincere, great conversationalist and great dancer available. Now Mouth mixed that in Oh my god, awesome. I mean this was a little I stole this from set and it's you got to frame it in one of those frames that's glass in the front and glass in the back. I love him. You can get him at like Marshall's. They're cheap number one. He's a number one pick guys. No, she's a she's not going to give

that joy. There's no way in hell he's going to get it. I'll maybe take a screen grab and send it to him, but I'm gonna be I'm gonna years old, like whym I tell you kids about the Fantasy Boy Draft. You gotta get him to sign it and then still keep it. By the way, he really is the best dancer. That's a He's a great dancer. Yeah, it really is. It makes a difference when a guy knows how to dance,

doesn't it nice? Okay, So what were you gonna say before I interrupted you with my totally sweet trading card. I was gonna say, well, there's two things. Ay, I really want to go back to figuring out what we would have done to destroy dance campaign, because I think that's such a fun topic. But also, why the hell does Lucas care so much about being on the varsity basketball team but he's willing to risk his life? What

is going on? Well, I think he said he said in the episode that he never felt like he had fit in before and he'd finally found a group of people that you know, supported him, and he felt he felt safe and all of that. Didn't he say that he did? Did? I mean, it's not like he's hanging out with the bros. It's not like he's like like got a connection with the team at all, and all the girls still want to hook up with him. So it's not like not playing basketballs to ruin that. Um

if Again, it feels like a spec script. It feels like a standalone thing where it's like Luca's just really has to care about basketball so much. Um Yeah, he's only been playing for what half a year on the varsity team. I mean, obviously he's been playing his whole life in the river court means everything to him, and those guys mean everything. But that's the other thing. I mean, what about his river court friends. Aren't those the people

that always made him feel like he belonged somewhere? Is he? Why is he suddenly all obsessed with the jocks at the high school who were always apples to him. I do love that this was like the first time we saw skills at school about time, you know, was it? Yeah, one of the first I mean, if it's not the first, it's the second, which is when became in hot, which I like, Yeah, I don't think we have seen him at school before. I mean maybe sitting in a classroom maybe,

I don't know. How about how bad is Brookett passing notes? Just like who thought that was a good idea? Like do kids even pass notes anymore? It happened, I got I gotten big trouble. But it wasn't really passing it out. It was I left it in my pocket and my mom washed my pants, you know, and pulled it out and found it, and it was bad. It was like all about like the party that we had snuck out, and like I don't know why my friend was writing in so much detail, but it was like all of it.

She just like, and then about your window and went to so and so's house, and then I can't believe we stayed out until two in the morning, can you? And but it was just like, well everything's there. My mom was like, OK, well you're it, and I'm like I couldn't even get out of it because like every single detail I had been described. Wait, man I got caught. It was a great yeah, great, You're the best sneaker out. Ever, my mom did the same thing. She found a note

in my pocket that I was the middleman. This girl Jade wanted me to pass this note to her cousin in my class. And my mom finds it in my pocket and it was just one sentence it said you Leon, and it was second grade. My mom found it and it was just like, who's Leon. It has to be another T shirt? I really need that T shirt. I used to pass notes all the time. We used to. I was went to high school in New Jersey in a building that had been around for probably since like

the thirties or forties. So we had these old radiators that were on the sides of the rooms and it was close enough to the desk where you could count how many slats in the radiator there were, and you could like. So there was this little note space for notes, and I would slide my notes for from my friend who was coming into the next class. So we would all leave the classroom and then he would come in and sit down and my note it wass yes, this

was my best friend in high school. And so I would always leave a little uh, I live a little little notes in there. We would like trade and pass notes back and forth in the radiator. I like, pardon the pun. I didn't even mean it jokes, No, I like, I'm just thinking, like if that was in a movie, that would be like a sexy little thing to do is to have like a little hidi hole in public, you know what I mean. Like that's what makes it's so cute. It's the you know, the sixth It's like

the sixth slat or whatever it was. You know, you could always say whichever desk you ended up sitting by, like number eight, Yeah, what happens if someone else leaves a note there one day? Are like, I'm always more scared. I mean, I like to journal, but every time I journal something, I'll then shred it because I'm so paranoid um of like keeping notes and letters because it's like,

oh my gosh, it's so permanent. Um. And then yet I will text a lot of crazy and I'm like, like just a digital but something about yeah, it's just a digital footbir. It's just going into the cloud and anybody can access it. But like, you gotta shred this. It's probably some like trauma from high school. But I'm like, you got caught, Yeah, I got caught. I'm like, better shred this note. But yeah, I'm always I'm always like so scared to write things down? Now, haven't you seen

Bridges of Madison County. After Meryl Street dies, her children find all of her like she does. The movie starts it's our kids and they find all her the attic and they're like, mother had a life and a photographer. Keep the notes. Let your kids think you're interesting one day. You know. I love keeping all that stuff. I'm a total paper hoarder. I have there's a lot of stuff

that I'll throw away, but paper. I have bins of note cards and um greeting cards that people have given me from birthdays and things from like, you know, twenty years ago. Keep none of all that stuff. I have that box full of notes from high school that I passed back and forth with my friends. That's not true, Hilary. I have a birthday card you gave me for my twenty six birthday. I ever come on this podcast again, will bring it. Because she would draw like elaborate pictures.

Remember you joked, because I was like the oldest was always like so old, like compelled to everybody else. God, I'm so old, what do we think? Goodness, we didn't have like so much like social media. We do not have any social media. But no, we were safe. Nobody could nobody could really like comment on that, because I remember like watching nine or two one I my mom being like Dylan McKay's four hundred years old. None of

these people because we had all like the forehead wrinkles. Yeah. Um, but yeah, it was like, no, we didn't know that. We didn't need to know what people were saying about us. We just passed our own. Look. Joy and I had a notebook that we would pass between our trailers and you decorated the front of it and it was called Trailer Trash and we would just talk in this journal and has it back and forth so that we have it. You you do, I've found it in my in my

storage in it. There needs to be another podcast. Yeah, that's because it's like you you do the scene and you know, you're just like, oh God, I'm exhausted. Now I gotta sit around for four hours while they shoot a different scene, and I don't know what to do for the next four hours, and so you write to your human journal joy and you're like, did you check out this on set today? And did you know who's kissing who? And did you know what happened after work

on Wednesday? We had a grand times did I love the I love the Traveling Notebook? And I've actually used this UM in raising my daughter. It's really helped it with communication because um, she would we I started out with when she was writing, kids start writing about um what five six years old in kindergarten are like putting together real basic sentences. UM. So if she was mad, she just shuts down. She will not speak and have

a conversation. So I and she would go in her room and close the door, or she would we weren't allowed. I didn't let her have a fully closed door until it certain, so you know, I took it off. She's got no door, and UM, so I would I would write, UM, are you mad at me? And slide it under the door, and then she would write yes and slide it back what happened? Slide it back and should And so we

would do that and we have kept doing that. I think the last time we did it was Eventually I graduated to a notebook because it was a little easier because you know, I had to keep going to find pieces of papor, but I wanted to keep them forever. It was it gave her the freedom to have to share her emotions without the scariness of having to, you know, say things out loud sometime. Um So anyway, it's a it's a fun tool for any parents out there who are trying to figure out how to get your kids

to talk to you about scary things or whatever. I like that a lot. That's a good one. Gus employed that joy. Like. I remember finding a note on the kitchen island that said mom is dumb. D O M. And he was trying to say numb, mom is dumb, and so Jeff Will still yelled at him. He was like, mom is dumb. Notes are the way to my heart, even if you're being kind of an asshole. I love the written word to What would you do if you found a boy draft note in your daughter's pocket? I

would laugh so hard. I don't know, I think that's hysterical. Yeah, like the idea of Davis's kids finding a boy draft and it being all the names of all of the like uncles and like people she knows in town. That's horrifying. We don't think about it in context like that. It's a stranger. My youngest daughter, you know, there's a little jewelry box. You open it up and there's like a

little ballerina kind of rolling around. So she has one of those, and I I was putting away some of her little like stretchy bracelets, and I opened it up in there and she has in there, and she just graduated pre school. She has in there perfectly positioned a little boy his picture, his school pictures, put it in there, and I was like, what's this? And she told me his name and I was like, is this like a special friend? And she's like I just didn't want to

lose it. And I was like, she's like it's really special. And I'm like that's adorable, Like it's really cute. I'm here for young love me too. I love it. Oh man, it's the remember too young to have a crush. I don't think it just means you like people like Jeff and I don't understand. We were both like in love from preschool on, like I have been in love my entire life. Jeff was in love his entire life. Gus is like computers. Do you know what I mean now

or just like I don't know. That seems like work. You guys are a lot since this is really intimidating, I don't understand that. Can I find out the line craft one of mine? So at least we know one is a romantic I was like, that's great. Is the older one is she? Is she a slurty girl? Now? Now she's serious. No, she's very serious, like not a flirt. No. No, And I don't really think any of them. I she my nine year old recently had a slummer party, and

I mean third grade summer parties. We were talking about boys. They didn't they did not mention one boy. Oh wow, well that's good. They're evolved. We were just like monsters. Yeah, they did each other, which is hilarious, but not in a serious way. They like blindfolded each other and did it all. See that's what we should have been doing at the apartment. You know. Yes, the apartment is a good set. By the way, those Okay, so Sophia is

not here. Everybody at home knows that she's doing romantic things. Um, which is very cool. Uh, but I love in this episode the apartment. You know, she's like the French riviera, and Rachel corrects her. But isn't that like we're st got engaged, Like has life come full circle? Oh that's interesting Positano, Right, Wasn't that sort of the area that she was Guys? I don't know. I'm just some bumpkin that lives in the country, but I think it's like

CuMo different. I don't know, that isn't the same. It's off the same coast. They were in a boat Rachel's lines, I am not. I don't know. Ye, Okay. Talk about Rachel being smart though, because I loved that bombshell this episode with the Supreme Court case. Oh my gosh, that was great. Yeah, she's very smart and she does that throughout. I think all of her time at Tree Hill, she's

always pulling out something like that. But I mean again, like when you're you know, popping around to all these different schools, I mean, I feel like there is part of her that's like she just kind of buried herself, probably in her studies. And you know, we learned later that her parents aren't very um present because she and Brookes share that in common. Umi, Yeah, I was like no one we were at Charlie Brown's real life. I

guess no one's parents were really present. No, but I like that you also are so smart in real life, Danielle. Like when we had to do that Maxim cover, we had to go sit down and do an interview, and it was so Danielle and myself and this reporter's asking us questions, and we were very aware of what that kind of magazine wants you to be, and you know,

like the whole like bimbo mentality. And as we're answering all these questions, I was like, do you understand that Danielle is the smartest one at this table, Like she's the one that graduated college, like she's always been like the honor student. Like Danielle is the smartest person at this table. And daniel is all like oh no, no,

no no, but in real life. And it's also just memorizing a couple of facts that um will yes, yes, the human had weighs eight pounds, right, you just spit out a couple of random back and be like, oh, she knows that she must know more. You are an incredibly successful woman in so many different arenas, and it's because you're so smart and intuitive and that doesn't happen by accident. Well yeah, look she's a business owner. Look

I've got our family business beer shirt on right now. Um, and that you want me to go get my booze bottles? We were going to do that. No, no, no, no, hey, where's my booze? The booze is coming? Do you guys think it's it's weird that as adult women we went from one tree hill to all kind of venturing into the liquor business or the like the alcoholic Is it a coping mechanism? It's just a lushes tracks perfectly? Well, yeah, what is Rachel doing right now? Wine? And figured there

might be something about wine coming. But what's Rachel doing now? Where where did Rachel end up? I don't even know? Dan dies? And then what happens where I we talked? I think that I just took all his money and left. Um, I have to ask some fans to help us out. But I, um, yeah, I'm gonna do like a little research on her because now I'm interested watching that. Watching those episodes is really fun. It's really fun, like all the emotions and I know I've heard y'all talk about it,

but like when you actually watch it. That just makes me happy. Well, you were saying that you have like muscle memory, like you remember some of the lines. Remember I was remembering my lines. I was like, oh my gosh, I remember this. I remember what comes next, I remember

the scenes. I remember what she's going to say, because I was like just starting out and I was so paranoid all the time that I was going to forget stuff, and then I did, and then I get screamed that like, you should know your lines, and I'm like I do. I'm just so nervous and scared. I can't remember them.

I know. My favorite part of watching this episode back is when the cheerleaders are fighting in the classroom and they said something really mean, like he's not into horror or something like that Danil in real life go fad And then Rachel laughs like you laughed on que In. You're like, it's funny. I don't care, it's still funny. What's funny? Then it's still funny. Yeah. Should we do

some listener questions? I think we have a couple. Okay, there's a question about musical theater and then another question about I like Arianna's question. Let's start with this one. She says, was it hard to be mean to someone when your characters didn't get along and you actually adore the real life actor? For example, what about Tyler Hilton and James Lafferty, Sophia Bush and Danielle Accles. M hm hm oh. I think it was fun. We kind of talk. It's fun a minute ago like those it was, it

was so fun. And I remember just like so I just like busting up laughing, like right after those scenes because it was like hard, it was. It was hard to keep a straight face and do though. Um, that was one thing I remember, because like you have to be so intense and like Sophia is like so like Brook is like so over the top and so fast in all this, and you want to laugh anyway because it's funny, Like she's funny when she's doing it, And I just remember it being like hard not to laugh.

That's it. It's hard not to laugh because it's just so absurd. How it's so crazy to be mean to someone that you really love. That's it's hard, it's so ridiculous. I think it's way more awkward when you actually hate the person, because then you have to pretend like you don't in between scenes and you're like, great work today, black an asshole? You know what I mean? That's a more awkward. Yeah. Yeah. When it's your friend, go all out.

But if they if they have an inkling that you don't like them, you have to pull the performance back a little bit, just for the sake of politics. Yeah, bring it back to all right. We have another question from Jackie. As a huge musical theater nerd. I love when y'all talk about connections to the theater and your love of it. If there had been a full musical episode of One Tree Hill, Oh my god, we used to ask for that. What we did? What would you have wanted to sing? And I'd love to know what

your favorite musical is. M Danielle loves singing. Okay, my favorite musical from Yeah, I love I do love singing. I just don't let other people hear. Um. But I recently had a conversation with Joy and she said she was going to help me with us. Oh yeah, thank you for reminding me. I'll send you those I'll send you those links. Thank you. I do remember it. I didn't have that much champagne, right, it was that was really early on in the night. Um, no, my favorite.

My first favorite musical was Oklahoma. My parents had the record and I would listen to it over and over and over and over and sing all the songs and yeah, I just loved it. And I actually sang it this weekend quite a bit in my head. In your head, Yeah, you're just walking around? No no no no no no no no no no no. Joy, what's your favorite? I mean, I could always watch Lima is always always and South Pacific.

South Pacific is one that has no boring moments for me, there's no dip, there's I'm interested in every single moment that's on stage. I really loved Tommy the first time I saw it, Um, the Who's Tommy? But it's been a while since I've seen it on stage, so I don't know. Um, I think those are my favorites. I love Into the Woods of course, yeah, but the second act is I don't know, like minutes too long? Yes, Yes,

what's your funny girl? Funny Girl? You know, seeing it as a kid and then having it parts of it come to fruition in my adult life. You know that that scene where all of a sudden she gets called up by the Zigfeld Follies, and she's like, oh my god, oh my god, I did it. It's overnight, like getting

called up by TRL off the street. You know. I was just like, oh my god, it's happening, you know, in the relationship stuff of like having been with men in my past that didn't love that I was successful, you know, like there were so many parts of that movie that as a kid, I was just like, this is razzle dazzle. I want to be an actress, just like Fanny brice Um. And then those life lessons just hit hard with a sweet Barbera streisand solo here and there.

She's genius. Did you see a Funny Girl in London when they did it with them? Know they're doing it right now. Don't remember that New York are doing it again? How they are? Beanie felt, Oh, Beanie, that's right. I haven't seen it yet, you know. I I love her. I think she's great. Normally, when to go to the theater, I take my son and so I don't know how into funny girl he is. I actually promised him We're going to go see a Little Shop of Horrors. That's

all so Tammy. I said, Hi, that's a fun show man. You would be a good Audrey Danielle. I would love Danielle would make a great Audrey. Yes, we'll be her back up, we'll be the will be the do up singers in the background. That's right. Yeah, those are the songs you wouldn't be singing. Yes, I'll practice that. We'll start with that. Suddenly, Seymour, go nuts, Go for babe. That's so fun. Those are good questions. Umhould we be Wait, we didn't talk about if there had been a musical

episode of the show. Oh yeah, let's go back. I mean, I don't I don't know, Like it's hard to tell. I'm trying to think of songs back then, like a song that what like embodies your character, or just like a group song or I don't know what he'll say. Glee was like a jukebox musical. They would take pop songs and make them like the character's narrative. What song embodies your character? I mean, in this season, it's um ain't too proud to beg right, Please don't leave it,

don't you? Yeah, I mean, I don't know what's that for? Not for the candlebox. I am going to punch you in the neck with the candlebox. Danil loves signing other people up for karaoke and then making them sing the song while she's yelling at the audience karaoke pitches. I did sing four non blondes recently, you did? That's a good one. Yeah, actually with with Renee, our head of the elament at our pods. So it's uh, it's really fun. Okay, should we spend a wheel? Guys? Do it? Do it? Okay,

go ahead? What does what does it say? Daniel? Who is most likely to travel the world in their van? So? Who is most likely to travel the world in their van? You have to pick a character from the show in a real life person. But I think we know the answer to those Chris Keller character. Oh sure, I could see Chris on the show doing that, um, But in real life it's you, dude. You've got the big, huge

like astro van van. We're all together this weekend and Danil rolled up in a van that my husband thought was like the van that was supposed to take us from the hotel to the venues. He thought it was like the hired van take their family on the road. And a fan it is me? Did you have to get like a like a cdo license to drive that thing? No? No, And we used to have a boat and I think I actually I got a license for that because I

thought everyone should. But it's not required. What. Yeah, Well, listen when we go on the road with the Drama Queen's Tour with our win suit case, you give me our bus driver. Drama Queen's Tour. We are working on that. Folks, feel free to send us some info about if you want us to come to your city, email us yes, Austin want, Yes, Okay. Next episode, Season three, episode seven, Champagne for my real friends, Real Pain for my sham friends.

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