Karaoke Night ᐧ EP614

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Hello, friends, we are back. I can't believe how fast season six is going. We are on season six, episode fourteen, A hand to take hold of the scene, which originally aired January twelfth, two thousand and nine.

Guys, what a weird year two thousand and nine was.

It was bizarre.

It's weird watching this episode because we filmed this months in my We probably filmed this what like October November, and then it airs in January, and so so at the time I was pregnant, these episodes with Peyton becoming pregnant were starting to air, and everyone thought that the pregnancy on TV was the same as my pregnancy in real life, only they had happened like six months apart. So it was confusing even for me because I was like,

We'll give them the synopsis.

Kids as Peyton and Lucas's news spreads, Marvin and Millicent struggle to remain a couple, and Brooke tries to cess out Julian's intentions. Peyton and Lucas babysit, Jamie and Andre, Well, Haley and Nathan double date with Jason Mia. It's pretty straightforward episode. It's very uh, very straightforward. Nothing too complicated here.

It was sweet. It was a very very sweet episode. It was fun to, you know, work with one of our favorites from the writer's room, Mike Daniels, who directed.

So actually Mike didn't direct. It's in here in notes incorrectly because.

I text you last night.

Yeah, so it's flipped around. But so Chad directed this one. Oh and Mike wrote it.

Oh that's what I thought, because I remember Chad having to direct us in his scenes and it being like, yeah, it was I liked this episode. I had a ton of fun on this episode.

Yeah, I did too.

It was a fun one. There's a lot of kids stuff, a lot of just I mean the karaoke and the uh, the basketball, Papa shot thing was really fun and it just felt like everybody was you know, first dates, and yeah, it felt fun.

It felt kind of sparkly, and it was nice to have some happiness.

Everyone's having fun except for the actual teenagers who are like going through it. Because this episode opens up with like police tape being pulled from Jack's house and yeah, these kids dealing with like cps looking for them and it's so serious. And then all the grown ups in town are like.

Having so much fun.

Were were a great time kids, don't worry, it gets better.

Yeah, hang in there.

On that note, like Jack played by Evan Peter Peters is, I mean, what a phenomenal actor. And I think we knew he was different and like special back then, and obviously to see his body of work now is crazy, but at the time it was like he was the serious kid. We had all this goofy stuff going on, and then there was like a real thespian on set.

But he and Ashley were having a lot of fun, like they were goofing around and making friends. That the two of them together on screen was like lightning in a bottle. I thought they both were so talented, such good listeners, which is unusual for that age. Yeah, whoever found them and brought them into the show had a good eye for that.

Is he our age? How old is is he?

He's younger than us, not by a ton. But I thought that they played like that angst and fear in such an honest way. And what was actually really fun in this episode was getting to see her as Sam getting more comfortable and laughing and having a good time and being in this one space where she had healthy relationships. And then on the sort of other end of the seesaw her friend is sinking and she's been there and

It's easy to forget that she's a kid because when Julian shows up with the coffee and this child has just been duck taped in a closet, right like, this child has just escaped a murderer, and he says to her, he's like, hey, Jack probably needs you, dude, like puts it on the kid to fix this I'm like, Julian, shut the fuck up, get out of this apartment.

Also the fact that she's just so chill, Like she shows up at the door, hair's a mess, and she's like yeah whatever, making snarky comments.

Again all is well, Yeah, it is really interesting, and like I like their dynamic though, because he kind of teases her like kid's sister, and every time he's he calls her her name, it's different, like he.

Says, hey, Sammy and then he's like buy Samson and he's ruffle in her hair and it's like it it's so sweet.

Well, it's a polar opposite of Owen, who.

Was like, yeah, I'm just gonna say, we.

Gotta go looking for her.

Yeah, I'm busy right now. I think I have pop tarts on the toaster. Yeah, Like, I think it's so nice to see Julian the way that he is with sam that effortless banter. It's exactly what Brooke needs. And the chemistry with y'all's really great, like really great on screen.

Yeah, yeah, it works, there's there. There really is like a little sparkle in that whole dynamic for Brook and Julian. For Brooke and Julian and Sam like they're and he GE's really cute, and even the way it kind of flips later in the diner when it's Julian and Sam and then Julian, Sam and Peyton, and it's like it all just feels really exciting and it's fun to.

Have that he likes hanging out with chicks man, Like he's just like, yeah, I'll hang out in the henhouse. That's cool. I love that. Like no one raises a question like really, we're gonna get into costumes before casting, Like we literally like why are we doing costumes before we've done anything else?

Yeah, there's been no scouting.

I don't even know if the script's done. They're really in the rush to make this movie.

No, I just really got to work on these cost come. That's gonna be the euphemism from now on, like, oh, you guys doing a costume meeting? Cool.

It was great when he showed up at the door on the phone with arms full of binders and you were all dressed up, gussied up. I was hoping that was the excuse you're going to make up, like, oh, yeah, I just came from something.

How many times have you done that in real life? It's very like, oh, this old thing, Oh, this is nothing.

Guys, is not for you, trust me.

No, I had a meeting today. Yeah, I think let's just focus on the Brook and Julian of it right now instead of doing this chronologically, because I enjoyed it so much, because I felt like a voyeur. I felt like I was watching something I wasn't supposed to see and I that I love.

It was just so like, oh no, oh no, here they go, and it was Yeah, I felt like a felt like a rollercoaster of romance.

It also just felt nice, Like I think the thing I was struck by was I thought they wrote it really well for us, and I thought that you finally had a character like Brook matched with somebody who like makes sense for her another creative, you know, not exactly in her industry, but like the tension of Brooke and Owen having chemistry but like nothing in common always made

No?

Wine?

Yeah?

And then he walks in with wine and it's like, oh okay. I just was like, oh this all this feels like real and authentic to me, Like this is the thing where you go, oh, yeah, I've had butterfly like that.

How fun.

He's a good counterpart for her because he's also kind of doing that at the end, the talking to himself, talking him through it. What's it going to look like? Yeah,

Yeah.

I love that conversation you guys had about your parents, you know, because you and Nathan have had similar conversations. We keep talking about like the Brooke Nathan abandoned kids syndrome, and when you meet this shiny new thing who just really wants to get vulnerable, Oh good, tell me all your trauma.

Totally. It's like, oh you have you have complex family, me too. Yeah, And I think they were really smart in the way that they showed everybody kind of struggling with the dynamic and then they gave him that line which is really vulnerable, but like doesn't go too too far where he says like, of course he read the book because of Peyton, but he related to it because of Brook.

Girl I wrote that Dawn.

I did too. I was like, oh, yeah, that's that's the thing. And I think there's something undeniable, like you're saying about the rare similarity like for Brooke and Nathan and their whole high school career, Like that's a platonic friendship that two people can identify each other in. But to feel seen and identified with your partner, to be with someone who like in their existence. Heals something in

Because they validate all of the things that you have struggled with. And you know your friends are not going to have the same lived experiences. Your family is oftentimes going to deny what you're feeling because it's like, oh, everything was great, why are you upset? You know, when you find another person that is like, oh, no, I did that exact same path and it pisses me off too, you just get to take like a big sigh and

Yeah, I feel like he is.

Yes, yeah, telling you man that birth word thing mean something. You guys. You look really nice kissing. It looked like it was like gentle. It was like it was nice.

It was sweet.

Sweet isn't the word I was gonna use.

I think the whole thing feels so sweet and like vulnerable sexy.

It was sexy.

You're both blushing. No, guys, are you okay?

I'm like, it was really good. No, he took his time.

Yeah, it was good. I do however, wish we drew it out a little bit more, like I think it would have been nice for a couple more episodes to build that tension being stuck alone with each other, different different scenarios and then finally you know, it was It was only like a thirty minute build up. It would have been nice to have a few episodes. But either way, it made me happy. I liked it.

I think everybody liked it.

It feels very very cutie, and I love that, like to kind of bring it back around to the beginning, especially with Ashley. I love that she serves as this sort of device to call it out and you see this teenager having fun, you know, with these older women

It made me so happy to see that scene because we've had to do so much like petty girl fight stuff on our show, whether you know it's between all three of us or two against one, like any of

It's actually a really smart device to have Sam be bouncing around. She's propelling the storyline forward. We don't have to take the time to watch all of these conversations unfolding because she's she's propelling it forward with Julian and Peyton, and with Brooke and Peyton, and the same thing with Haley and Lucas too, Like it's just let's just get

Yeah, And it was so it was so upbeat, like I don't want to, you know, hit the nail on the head too many times. But I just love how much fun everyone's happen. Yeah, like joy when you walk in. When Haley walks into Lucas's and like catches him, it made me laugh out loud, like that is so sweet. You know, she wasn't supposed to tell anybody, she didn't, but I gotcha. Like it's so it's just so fun, and it's that kind of like familiarity and good time energy that I think when we get to do it

Yeah. Mike told me last night that he wrote this episode when he was sick in bed with the flu and he wrote it in two days.

Whoa what Yeah, good for him just showing off, you know what I mean? Yeah, Oh that old thing, yes, old dress.

The fact that he could just do that in his sleep, like pretty much literally in his sleep.

Haley was by to see this episode. Hailey was having a great time this episode. Yeah, yeah, were you having a great time in real life? Like what was going on?

No? I was still in a cult, so my life was pretty miserable, but I was, but I had a pretty dress that I had a pretty dress.

You're like, but I was having fun at work on this day.

Yeah, I mean I think that's the thing is actually this was the time, this was right around the time when I was starting to feel personally like really numb and trapped and just didn't really have any personal outlet. And so when I would go to work to be able to go to set and dive into a character and just escape and be Haley, It's like it was a you know, totally unhealthy form of escaping my life. Oh, but it's what I had.

You weren't Draken or doing drugs. You were playing Haley. You know.

I'm also like, wait a second, enjoy. Are you saying that the relentlessness of our TV schedule taught you how to disassociate?

Ding ding ding ding? Yep, flip it on, flip it off? You and me.

Both sister, here we go. You're like me the performer. Hello, yep, deep, I'm all happy. But I will say, like, I wonder too if that's part of what's so palpable, Like this whole double date that we watch Haley and Nathan and

That was hysterios.

It's so funny them dancing.

I don't well the cutting back and forth, honestly, Like, I mean, I loved it. It was so fun. But I all I could think of was if I have never seen this show and I walked into a room and someone was watching this, yeah, cutting back and forth between the guys in the club and then the little kids, I would just be like, what are you watching? This is so weird. But fortunately we do know it and it was really fun.

I loved it. I loved it, and I loved that they did little things like they had the little boys.

I was about to just be like the little boys and the big boys, the big boys, little boys.

I like that they had them doing some of the same choreography. Like I just couldn't stop laughing. I was like, they're just they're boys forever.

James commits so hard.

Yeah, Oh my god, who was that guy on stage? Y'all listen. We spent years, we spent the better part of our twenties singing karaoke in Wilmington, right, and you know who never came never, not once? James Lafferty never and he's all in this scene hilarious, the dance so.

Funny is Yeah, who was that guy?

It was so good.

He's never met a challenge, she said, like a reasonable challenge that he said no to. I mean, I think they just knew they could write him anything and he'd do it.

And what I.

Also really like is you get to see, like we see James and Stevens friendship so clearly in this episode and the way they egg each other on, and you're like, well, yeah, of course they went and made everybody's doing great, like of course they're business partners. Look at them like they they in this episode gave me a lot of like broken Peyton and their lifelong thing energy and that's that's like a big thing to create between two characters that are newer friends on screen. And it's sweet.

Nathan Mike doesn't have friends. This is she's like his first friend. I'm just realizing this. Wait, who does Nathan hang out with? I mean he hangs out.

With like he has to hang out with Lucas well.

Yeah, I mean it's always just Nathan and Lucas, but Lucas has friends, all of his River Court, all of our fabulous River.

I was gonna say, like the bromance in this episode I really responded to, and I thought it was I liked seeing the little boys and the big boys because I think, you know, we've had conversations about toxic masculinity.

Totally agree, And you know, you're right. It's like, I mean that big article that came out last year, like near the end of the year talking about this epidemic of loneliness and men and like what it's doing to society. It's it is heartbreaking, and I think, what a wild thing to watch this episode. And obviously none of us remembered this karaoke thing until we saw it, But like, how nice that we got to model a playful male friendship, Like I want more of that. Yeah, I want to

I think we do, don't we I don't know, don't they become like maybe.

Well we know they did in real life. So if you're looking for that wish fulfillment, yeah.

Go watch Everyone's doing great. It's so funny. I love that show. Actually, it's great, it's really good.

And I really also like the in the structure of this double date, getting to see them having fun, getting to see you giving me a advice, and then getting

It's just all okay, Ema coming through the slow mo of her and the Jessica Rabbit top with the oh my, yes, so good, so good.

Her in the black bandage dress was full Sandra Bullock in the lilac dress and miscongeniality slow hair. Loved it. Yeah, I have it in my notes all in caps. I'm obsessed.

I was obsessed with her haircut in this episode. And I you know, like the scene kids back then all had the same haircut. It was that super shag with the like swoop swings across the forehead. And I have been seeing all these people on you know, like social media point out that the girls with the wolf cut now are just the spawn of the swoop cuts because it's the same exact haircut, just split down the middle.

Wolf cut.

Is that what something is called? I'm looking at right now.

Yeah, it's Kate's haircut, just split down the middle, and I'm I'm obsessed with it.

Oh yeah, it's a shag.

It's an emo haircut. But put those banks to the side, joy and what do you see? Boom the rachel it's Mia, she had that cool girl haircut. And yeah, did they kiss in real life? Stephen and Kate?

Because theyre so they I mean great chemistry.

They sold it.

They had great chemistry.

She still was pretty young, right, she was twenty.

The playfulness. I liked that while the little boys wanted to play card games and they wanted to be very grown up, the big boys wanted to play arcade games. And that's just so. Remember what was the name of that arcade that was in Wilmington that we would go to.

Oh yeah, the one on uh It was my military cutoff near the.

They had pickled eggs near the pizza.

No not Jungle Rapids. No, No, there was a place off of Market Street over by like the movie theater. Guys, we're talking about some old school Wilmington lore. It was an arcade and Joy made me sing karaoke there and I sang first and was real shitty. We were singing Shania Twain and then she got up and was like hit a man and man and I was like, god, damn it.

She just you have a great voice. I loved when you sang at the rap party. I actually really enjoy your voice. I wish that you would sing more like country western, like Tammy Wynet kind of stuff. Just said your kids like it when you sing.

Ah depends. Yeah, Gus likes Broadway radio, so he probably is like more into it. George is like christ Woman, please killing me?

Yeah, because Maria tells me to shut up all the time. Yeah, all the time.

Moms, do you stop?

Please stop?

Well, she hasn't heard you sing Shanaia Twain karaoke. I feel like that Mary Underwood song. Had no idea what it could sound like. But yeah, the arcade thing with boys, they like being little, they liked just being Yeah, that's their big night out. Nathan Scott one weekend off of practice, He's like, I know what I want to do. I want to play games. I love it and make the baskets for Chase.

That was so cute. What a cute little moment. And that's the thing, like I kept noting as I was watching all this stuff that I wish we'd had more of this. Like even when we cut into trick, the guy who was singing.

Oh that's Tyler Easter is it? I was like, do we know him?

He looks to me.

They ripped this straight from our real life because when we were doing karaoke, we did it at level five, but then karaoke moved over to yosak, which my best friend Nick was working at and the karaoke Night's there. That's where I met Tyler, and he and I would get up and sing like a no Mountain high enough together. And so when he popped on screen here, I was like, oh my god, they got our real karaoke buddy to come and do this.

Incredible and his voice was so good and everyone was having fun, and I was like, wait a second, why weren't we doing like an episode every quarter of Karaoke Knight, just every couple of weeks, a few scenes. It's so fun.

It feels vital to my emotional development during that phase in our life. Like karaoke such a cathartic thing. I remember being in love with someone who wasn't in love with me and singing the Ace and Bass song Don't turn around see Hi, die girl. Karaoke solves everything.

It is such a place to just put your feelings.

Yeah, what is the most revealing karaoke song you've ever sung in public? Oh my god, Oh.

My god, I can't. I'm cringing right now. Oh my god, what did you do? I'm sweating. I'm immediately sweating. I was in love with this boy man whatever. He was a man child, so I guess.

Yeah, yeah, God.

So desperately in love with him, and guys, I'm sweating. I was late. It was late at a dive bar, and I don't drink a lot, but I just went for it. And uh, I put on he was we were like on again, off again, and we were we were off again at this particular moment, but I really wanted us to get back together. And so I got up there at this old Irish dive bar in the valley and sang and I am telling you.

Stop from drunk, drink sjoy no.

And when I say the word sang, I really mean shouted, shouted, struggled. I know, see your Hillary's completely are you kidding? Maybe the most embarrassing moment in my life. And for most of the song, he was at the bar talking to his friend and kept looking over it.

Oh dear bad.

You guys should google that. You should google that. Surely. No, I'm so glad you're not with that person.

Know me too?

Who what a girl? Oh god, No, you should never have that feeling.

And whoever the friends were that went with me that did not grab me.

And off stage, No, no.

I want to think about that ever again. Okay, I've said it. Let's not talk about it anymore.

That I that's hard. That's a hard pill to swallow. I'm proud of you for just unload that.

Yeah, we're all out there. You know.

You know you should sing like a real belter, just like once in your life, just to know that you can't, just to know that you can get in front of you people. Sophia, what's your cringe karaoke?

I don't really do karaoke.

I'm trying, Like in my brain, I remember you always be an upfront and cheering for you. Yeah, I love.

It, but I think I could probably count the number of times in my life I've done karaoke. On one hand, it's not really my thing, although you know, like I'll be a good sport. But if I'm gonna get up there, I want to like I want to do Old Biggie or like shock everyone and sing like Gretchen Wilson, because nobody thinks I'm going to sing country music like I don't. I have a very low register. I like my voice is more of a base.

Speaker what you would be great at like some earth a kit.

Like I want to be evil like that.

That's the vibe. Sure, yeah, earth a kid Lilac Wine. Oh all right, Well, so what you're saying is that there's still time for you to embarrass yourself joy and I have already checked the rocks.

Yeah, guys, I've done and to embarrass myself, even if it's not singing.

I loved it.

There is definitely a picture of us doing karaoke one night with Daniel.

Yeah.

We're all clearly three sheets to the wind, so you know we've all been there. You get you get bold when you're on your like your fifth tequila and you're like, I could do it.

Oh my god. And I love that they had Cullen running it. They had Junk Incredible running it because he's who introduced us to karaoke and Wilmington. He was the person that took me to level five for the first time. And he We had a karaoke with Antoine at one of our conventions a few years ago, and I and Colin got up and sang some Johnny Cash and it was like, yeah, okay, Daddy, I tell yeah. He's a fun time. Yeah. I just love that, Like you're seeing

There is a little peril. It's just not happening with us.

Well then it doesn't matter, Guys.

I don't like it.

I don't like being mad at mouth.

I don't like being mad at mouth either, And it's really hard because Mouth is so great and le Norris is such a good guy. But this like possessiveness over a woman and her body, it feels very like four.

Chan to me. In cell culture.

It's very like in cell adjacent. And I really hate that they made sweetly Norris do it. I'm like, but I will say I was. I was glad that Brooke went to be there for him and also told him he was being really inappropriate. But even even the dialogue they wrote for me really wasn't that. It was like she can only get one of them back. It's like ew ew, I hated what they made him say. I

No, still still wrong, still still wrong.

Didn't like it.

I'm just trying to figure out the motivation of what is mouse deal anyway? Like, why is he so?

What's the deal? I just liked that he happened to have a headshot of oh and lying around. That was the second I saw the dartboard. All I could think is where that picture comes from? Why do you have that picture? Like, Mouth, what are you really jealous about? Right now? That's the kind of stuff that is A viewer is so distracting to me because I'm just like, where to come from? He didn't print it off the internet, and if he did, that's even weirder.

He just sits there and waits for his little printer.

Just to print out this.

That's the scene I really wanted to see in this episode.

That's awesome, Get down and we'll put this picture out. We poke some holes in it. Cool. Well, he did say he's been coming straight home after work, just sitting there, and maybe if he had done that in the first place, instead of hanging out with Gigi till late, we wouldn't be in there underwear on his desk. See Mouth, You're perfectly capable of coming home after work.

Okay, here's what I appreciate about where Milly was at. As hard as it was to see her so upset about something that really like she doesn't o Brook anything in that regard, Like they I don't think Brooke and Owen slept together. I mean, I get that it's a little awkward because it was an ex, but I mean, in this town, is that really what's our standard?

It was like barely an ex, like barely.

Yeah, you know, I know it was rough with mouth, but they could have gone the other direction where Milly was refusing to I don't know if she was like, no, I'm not going to feel bad for this. I'm not, and she would have been within her rights to do that. But what I liked about it was the soft heart, the humanity of like when you make a mistake and you just feel really bad that you hurt people that you love, and she's living into that instead of doubling

I liked that she wasn't deceptive like Peyton would have been. Like, Owen, what Owen? I don't know what, Owen? What are you guys talking about? Definitely still a virgin anyway, everything's fine. You know, if Peyon would have lied, she just would have lied. And and Billie God bless her, is like, hey, mouth, Owan, Brooke, I need you to know I slept her Owen. You know, yeah, what a nice gal, just truly laying it out.

Yeah, good for her.

I don't know. I was still like mad that we're not seeing Owen, like I want to see some awkwardness. I've seen them run into each other at the gas station.

You know, where is he?

Is he and true true blood? Yeah?

Just being famous fighting vampires. Why is Lee's hair still red?

He must have been working on a movie.

Did they diet for the forties episode and then it wouldn't come out?

Maybe? And the way that they color timed our show too, at this point everything turned up a little red anyway, So it yeah, it all seems a little a little odd.

I missed the blue I missed the Blue Years.

Not to jump around too much, but this moment with Sam on the bench.

I was just looking at that note I hold.

My own hand. Oh broke my heart.

Broke mine too.

We do that a lot. Yeah, you know, I love that. As a kid, you're so vulnerable, it's easy to just like, I'm just gonna hold my own hand. It's really sweet. I think as an adult and do that because I would second guess myself and laugh at myself it's so ridiculous. But the innocence of a kid just being like I just kind of hold my own hand and imagine and dream and hope one day it'll be better.

Loved it.

Yeah, it's really It's really nice to see this vulnerability with them. And one of the things I really appreciate because we would lose so much of the air, you know, so many of the pauses to the edit to make sure that the show fit in forty three minutes, and they really they kept a lot of the awkward pauses between Sam and Jack. Yeah, and they were so important because these are two kids dealing with such big, hard things.

Yeah, it felt like they were on a different show alone little bit because our characters also dealt with abusive family members. You know, Nathan and Lucas were dealing with Dan, who was physically abusive with them. You know, there's like murders happening. Our characters as teenagers dealt with crazy shit and like CPS never turned up, no one was ever in hiding. You know, we did say anythings like get a man's up hated, and instead these kids are dealing

Yeah, it's nice to bring back this struggle.

I like their show, like their show feels like.

It feels more like season one.

Yeah. Yeah. It also just feels like somebody joined our staff who had maybe been through the system or who had been through a situation. And I don't know what the reality of that is. I just know it feels way more grounded than when we were kids and people were just coming and going through our front door willy nilly. You know, they're hiding out on park benches under the bridge.

Well, and I like too that. You know, Sam's trying to come up with solutions, but she's still just a kid and she doesn't have any you know. She says she'll talk to Brooke and he's like, no, no, no, don't do that. You know, they neither of them's quite ready to really risk it, but they want to, but

Yeah.

Was this the first episode that Chad had directed? Like if TV ever?

I think so what?

It was great?

It was great, Yeah, really nice.

Good slow clap for yeah, good job. I mean it was there were such big moments and like little moments, and that balance of like serious and frivolous and right on. That's a hard that's a hard thing to do, especially when you know you writer wrote the script in two days and I was sick and just like, hey man.

It's just such a good script. Though.

It's a great script.

Yeah, it's kind of a filler episode. I mean there's a few things that move forward. Obviously with Peyton's pregnancy, that was a really big, central focused moment, but other than that, most of it felt Brook and Julian. Yeah, it was like everything was moving forward a little bit, but it wasn't a big catastrophe or lots of struggle or whatever. It was nice to just kind of relax a little and just enjoy watching the actors.

Everybody was kissing. Everybody's having a great time with their partner.

You guys be happy. That was fun.

Just mental break. That's what we all needed, just a nice mental break. I had so much fun with Chad on this episode because he felt good like directing. He'd just written that flashback episode. Now he's directing. Like it felt like there was some momentum and when you've been on a show this long and you've just been doing the same thing over and over again, and no one trusts you to do more. That feels shitty. And so

This is from Maddie. What was your favorite age as a child? Thinking in themes of like the childhood, the happiness, the kid like play that we felt in this episode, what was your favorite age as a child.

It's so weird having like having kids who are ages that I remember, because I don't remember being a toddler. Like so when my kids were toddlers, it was like, oh my god, this is brand new and this is so like neat cool. But now that they are ages that I have vivid memories, it drums up a lot

Yeah, I think I would say the same, because it was in that same sort of grouping of years that I started doing theater and like the after school theater programs and those sort of adventures in finding art and voice and all the laughter we had and like the costumes we were making, and and likewise the ability that it gave me to get out of my house and start to find my own, my own world and my own identity I think was really important. What about you, Joy, Yeah, same for me.

I think sophomore year probably specifically, but which I was fifteen, I guess, right, sophomore. Yeah, yeah, I mean freshman year was kind of hard, but yeah, overall that same timeframe, when you're that precious age between twelve and fifteen, when you're figuring out who you are and you stop looking at your life through the lens of your parents' perspective, you stop looking at everything in relation to all the things that you're bound to as a result of just

Well, remember that feeling of starting to spend a lot of time in other people's houses and figuring out who you were to their mothers, who you were to their siblings.

Well, and how they lived their life too, which is so different than it's always different what they kept in their fridge. Were allowed to just go to the fridge and open it up? Or was their mom like you need to ask, you know, when you sleep over for you all put out on each other in the basement, or is there like guest rooms. Oh my god, my.

Friend Maureene, this is my favorite. My friend Maureen, who's met a bunch of the cast, because she came to our like big Christmas special we did for lifetime. She threw a sleepover once and then was like, all right, guys, well I'm gonna go to bed now, so I'll see you in the morning. And she went to her room

I have a bed.

Good luck, it's comfortable.

Bye, Core memories you guys.

Let's spin a wheel.

Yeah, when do we get James vanderbeek back.

Oh, let's bring him on the show. Does he most likely to pass out on a roller coaster or a sling shot?

Oh?

God?

I don't know. Okay, on the show character, I feel like skills are junk.

Yeah it's junk.

Yeah.

Yeah, he's a big talker.

He'd be the one in line, like, you know for this ride like seventeen times.

Yeah, we haven't.

Had Colin on.

He's got to come and play with us.

Oh yeah who In real life?

I love roller coasters.

It's not me who would like legitimately pass out on a roller coaster.

Watching all of our faces right now, I just hear the Jeopardy music. I do do ding ding ding. I am racking my brain.

James does roller coasters?

Wait, have we found James Lafferty's cryptiiy he can do anything. The man that could do carry Okay, you can get hit by car well.

I just here's why I think it because James is very measured. He likes to have I don't use the word control in a negative sense. He just likes to have control over the over the situation, the environment, not over it. He likes to feel solid in the choices he's making and where he is and what's going on. And I think unpredictability doesn't seem to be something that's fun for him. In particular, That's that's what I remember. Anyway. I don't hang a lot out with James anymore, so

Yeah, it's definitely like a boy. It's definitely a boy. Carls are so used to like pain and suffering and like, you know, impulsive stuff like we're just used to the world flipping us upside down.

Yeah we have We're expected to roll with it.

Yeah, yeah, they struggle.

Gross Listen, if someone can get James Lafferty on a roller coaster, we want video proof. We don't tell you it. What's called COLLETTI Yeah, honestly, they're like roller coasters and slingshots are two different things. I'll roller coaster all damn day.

Yeah.

That slingshot thing.

No, honey, No, that just feels like a lawsuit waiting to happen.

It doesn't seem fun. I'm not gonna stand in line for that. Come on, all right, So season six, episode fifteen, we change? We wait, do we change? I don't know. We all still want to be fourteen, So we're not the right people to ask.

We all just want to go to karaoke.

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