Here We Go Again, Again • EP321

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Over the Hills and Far Away. This episode aired originally on April two thousand six. Hillary tell the viewers what they've won. I don't even know what the hell we watched it was. That was such a weird episode. Listen. It was a night before Nellie's wedding. Everyone celebrates a trick with a reenactment of their fairy tale, but one line from Peyton reveals your true feelings for Luca. Meanwhile, Brooks sort of makes amends with Rachel and designs Hailey's

wedding dress. Also sort of like that. They they've started to use the term nately in the episode, which was coined online by you know, a fan fan base back then. I think that's kind of fun. It's really cute. You guys had such an amazing impact on our show. He's making it into the script. Uh, this is weird. I have to say. All these little skits really fell flat.

They could have been. It felt like it felt like they had a conversation because Thomas Right Tom Right directed one of our favorites, and it really feels like there had to have been a conversation from the powers that be with the director saying, look, these are high school kids putting on some skits. None of them does theater. It shouldn't feel professional. It should feel a little clunky. They're like, it should feel like kids trying to, you know,

make their best effort, not professional. And it went so far in that direction that the skits were hard to watch. Hard well. They didn't even fake the audience enjoying the scripts. There was no laughter, There was no applause. It was just like curtain clothes with no laughter. Does it feel like the episode must have been running short too, because they didn't cut any of the air out of any of it. It was just and why were there There

was only like three scenes with Lucas and Moira. H eisode in like four days or something like we have the finale coming up, and they're like, oh yeah, you know what, Actually, that's probably a really good point. I think that's probably And because of the last episode was

such a big basketball episode. Sometimes if they had scripts like this that were very um location small, like we didn't go to a lot of locations, so we didn't have a lot of moves, they would cut a day from an episode like this to add a day to a basketball episode or a stunt episode. Yeah, splits, it feels like that. It feels like Tom Right maybe got a little cheated. Yeah, and we're sorry that all of you at home did as well. I mean in terms of rehearsal, dinner ideas, great idea. And I loved our

scene at the beginning. Yeah, I mean the cute little chat and the little screen is up and our chemistry is so good and then you you see the recorder and is what Brooks doing? And I was like, oh, we forgot about this. This is cute. Yes, And then the product the wedding dress a little lackluss. I don't know. I mean, look, I don't love the collar, but the dress was kind of great. The first day we all were just like, Okay, Davis came out. I didn't see

the problem. No, I didn't either well, and especially with the snow white reference. I was like, that's the snow white collar. Yeah, exactly, Yes, I get it. I get it too. Also it worked on you. Thanks. The crown was a little much, yeah, but the Halo joke was funny. Get into Halo. It's just so strange why. I don't know why the dress was so much of a problem. I mean, I was great. I also don't know why the fight had to escalate between us so intensely, though.

I guess that did become the point later because you delivered that line in such a funny way, like I've never seen someone go from excited too heartbroken enraged so quickly, and I'm just talking about me. I was like, oh, I didn't see that coming. That was funny, Haley James. You know, I wish I had played that scene differently though.

I wish I had let let Haley get more upset, like it's her wedding and you know, just let her have the flaw of like freaking out that it's not what she wanted, and it would have motivated you a little bit more to to freak out. I'm watching it and going back and going I could have done that better. Could I can give you a little more. My question was why was Haley boxing with like gatorade in the fringe like she's an athlete from it was like, we

have to show that she's grovved up, she's aggressive right now. Random. Remember it was in the script too. It wasn't like a like a me being like, yeah, I need somebody to do. Can I have like a boxing bag or something that it was in the script that I was And I remember reading the script and going, oh, okay, here's what I like about it. I like it gives Haley a personality element, like she's not just all about Nathan and school and wandering around like with her book

bag and being forlorn about relationships. It gave her actually something that with a personal interest that she was doing because she's not really doing music a lot right now. Um, so I like seeing her active. But it was definitely a random introduction to that. I mean, is the next person that has to box an an animate object in her bedroom? I'm just like who on our writing stuff?

Because in season four I've got a take up boxing after attacks, So I'm just like who on our staff was like, guys, you know what's hot girls girls boxing, Like somebody had a kink that we had to fulfill you with your little sweaty tendrils of hair. I love boxing me too. I don't know why I never got to hit up. Why didn't Brook get to box after she got attacked all those years later, I had to do it already. Well, damn it, you could have it. I hurt my knuckle really bad boxing, Yeah, because I

had sliced open my knuckle. Remember at the same time that I was having to all the boxing stuff was stupid anyway. I just somebody had a kink about it. Because the boys aren't boxing, It wouldn't been cuter to see the boys box also popular at the time, did like did it come back in? Was it in all the magazine camp or something? Tybo? But what I wish

we'd had was a little more of it. Yeah, if you're gonna have a heavy bag in your apartment, you've been boxing for a while, Like, yeah, couldn't we have had this cute thing introduction maybe you know, whether it was you or you like some he was into it, and then the girls had this sort of activity and the boys were like, you know, like they're all really learning a hit like, it could have been so funny if it had continued. I agree. I don't know if

we ever see it again. Those things are expensive. It could have been easy. Nathan comes home like, oh I got my old boxing Yeah, look what I found or something. I went and took this from my mom's garage. And I would be like, I am not having that in my living room. We do not live in a gym. And then he cut it's not that hard. It's not that hard, and it would have filled up a good five minutes of our episode. It's wasted so long, like

the breaks between the skits. That was just just the long panning shot of oh, here's another curtain in some lights and here's the next old timey silent movie sign for what the scene is. Also the animation of those uh storybook pages turning that looks like reading Rainbow from the eighties. I was like, oh, it's nostalgic, but also, who did this? Who did do this? You know what's starting to irritate me about my show at this point is that it keeps referencing itself over and over and

over again. It's like we're reliving the Nathan and Haley thing, which is like, okay, cute, it's a good device. But then also Peyton is always saying all the time. You know, someone once said to me, it's like, you know, were just always referencing ourselves. Yeah, it kind of felt like a whole episode of just reminding everyone where we were. Maybe it was like a recap episode before the finale. Yeah, because we're close to the end of the season. People

always leave. It's like did the music they like, there's just I don't know, I don't know. It just felt it feels like people are getting proud of themselves and like cute want But by the way, I think we could have done dynamite stuff to relive Nathan and Haley's Yeah, it could have been stage better, like if if it were taking up different parts of the stage instead of Yeah, you're right that it was. The episode was short. That has to be it because it should have been. Yes,

different vignettes on stage. The lights go out in one, they go up on the other, they go out on that one, they come up on another. Yeah, and and boom, boom boom, we get all the shots. Everybody's laughing, ha ha ha, it's cute. Yeah, you turned from the stage to the bar and it's Karen's cafe and the character of Haley is busting tables, and you know, Nathan walks in and orders a coffee. Like there could have been all these things to make it really snappy, even keeping

it in tricks. It's clearly we didn't have the budget to run around town scavenger hunt of memories for you guys or something. But I liked that Marcus made a reappearance and he was a wonderful idea of giving somebody a second chance. Um, that was really nice. Yeah, it's nice. Why didn't we get to keep him? I'm so perplexed. He was really good, He's a good actor. He also I guess he's very sincere. He must have booked something

or we munched out on that opportunity. It is my question, like who was going to fall in love and was robbed? Oh my god, they bombed in the Tutor Center, you know, like they could have had they could have had a relationship. He could have picked her up after the cooper of it all, and that would have been really nice. Why did we recreate the pilot? Maybe I was like, I, how did I have to watch Champagne? We watched this

because we just keep referencing ourselves over and over. Group car breaking down, and then Marcus palling up in the tow truck, and then Peyton calling Nathan for a ride. It felt it feels like masturbation, like it's just like I'm so pleased with myself, and it also feels like a little bit of a lazy device to get to when Peyton says or sorry, when Nathan says, don't you usually call Lucas for this, and she goes, she's out

of town, He's out of town? What about Brooke? And then it flashes to like it's like, well, I have to I have to tell the audience I can't call either of my two best friends because I'm in love with one and I'm going to upset the other. And it's like, so you're doing a repeat thing because it's

kind Nathan's kind of joking with her. But this was like those episodes, you know, Friends in Seinfeld and Who's the Boss episodes that they would always do that were like like that you said, I don't know why that you don't mean where they're just like, let's just rerun everything clips from the it's a clip episode. I mean, he was always so annoyed when I would turn on my favorite sitcom and then it was a Clipse episode, I just turned it off. Yeah, of course there were

a lot of clips. There were so many clips as Peyton's having her Tiffany that she's in love with him. I was like, oh my god, heavy makeout, Montage Dream paint and Lucas. But by the way, I will say that it did exactly what it was supposed to do, because even in the last episode, I'm like, oh my god, Peyton, Jake, Payton and Jake. In the beginning of this, Peyton and Jake, and then I see like all the paint and Lucas stuff, and I'm like, I mean that works too. I'm open, well,

and it is exactly to your point. It's a device that really works because we were losing Brian to go do Prime, and we knew that once he worked with Meryl Streep and Uma we blame Mamma forever, we would

never get him back. And the writers had to pivot and like so fast, Yeah, and well you have to pivot fast, and you have to pivot intensely if you've been setting up Peyton and Jake to the end game and now you have to go no, no, no, Actually, Payton and Lucas have always been endgame there, like and we have forty six scenes we're going to cut you in this heavy month. I was to prove it. I think the data they were like, it's always been here, and then you know what, the audience goes, You're right,

it's always been there. It's always been there. I like that, she blurts it out. At the end of the episode, Kayton is mentally ill. She is like, when we think about what's happened over the course of her story, I'm serious, this child should be in therapy because I'm so uncomfortable. I genuinely, I just feel like she I just feel like, my mom just told me something about one of my friends. I'm like, my god, I'm so sorry. That hit me so intensely, and had like I had like a church

giggle and a tear. Mommy died right her dad's gone. She's dating Nathan, who's a nightmare. She goes to Lucas, who ends up with her best friend, and then her mom shows up and she dies, and then she gets shot, and then five seconds later she's dating a guy in a rock band who's like much too old. For her, and then she's with Jake after this whole customer times busing and then just to sit in bed with Lucas and be like, oh my gosh, it is so much.

And I see a lot of Payton criticism where people are like, oh my god, and I just need to validate that opinion and be like I get it. Yeah, so much, and this child should not be loving anyone. Yeah, she's just going to therapy. Yes, that's it. But that wasn't That wasn't something we were talking about on the show. And because of the real life practical need to work around actors availability, stories had to be bent to the

cast we had and oof, what a flip. But I will say, as someone who is recently, hold hold, I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna go on a tangent. We're gonna come back. It's all gonna connect. I am not a reality TV watcher. I'm not interesting. Sure. I don't watch the Housewives, I don't watch The Bachelor. I had to host Kelly and Ryan once when she was out of town with Ryan with a bachelorette. I didn't know who she was. I was very embarrassed. It was like it was not cool, Like the Internet made fun of

me and I made fun of myself. I was like, no, no, I agree. I have no idea what's going on. And I just I'm like, it's not for me. If I'm gonna watch reality TV, it's going to be like a home design show, maybe a cooking show. Yeah, I am so hard, like deep in the paint on Love Island UK, because it's the only one that's good. Guys. She talked about it for hours last I was like, I need you to know, and all I could think when Brooke came in and sat next to Peyton, and Peyton said, Brooke,

I think I have feelings for Lucas. I was like, you know what she's doing is she's telling the girl first. It is an ultimate sign of respect in the in in the villa, Peyton supported for this choice because she didn't go to the boy first. She told the girl first. She prioritized her friendship. All I have to say is you would have done great on Love Island fantime in the villa. It's a big deal. It's just a big deal. Yeah.

Was our villain trapped together? Right? Because like, people were really really mad at Peyton for like telling brook this, And I have always struggled with that. I'm like, what are you guys talking about? Like, she didn't that's her best friend. She wasn't pass aggressive about it. She wasn't she the second she was called on it, the very first person she goes to to talk to you about it, that's where the love story god, I mean, yeah, I don't know that Peyton loves any of these people, to

be perfectly honest, I think she is just damaged. Well, she's looking for love to fill a really intense void and it's a boyd that's caused by trauma and loss and grief. And look, I think it makes sense. I can't believe you managed to be a well adjusted human being having to play this person. But you know, yeah, of course everyone was like enraged and flipped out and it was like, what a betrayal. But I actually really watching this episode back respect it because it was honest.

There was no duplicity, there was no um going behind Brooks back there, there were not the mistakes that these kids had made when they were younger. It was more I've really been trying to act like this isn't my reality, but this is my reality. I can't keep it from you because I love you and it's gonna hurt you, but I'm gonna be honest with you because I love you. Like that's very emotionally mature. Yeah, there's a lot of emotionally mature stuff that these kids do in spite of

all the craziness. Hayley showing up at Dan's door, Oh my god, year old? Did you? Like, how did you get there? There's something I need to do. I need to do this right now. Yeah, I guess she drove. Don't do they drive Hayley drives. I've never seen Hayley drive a car. I don't think I have either. Yeah, I don't know what she did. Maybe she caught a taxi, one of Brooks taxis. And I like that. You kind of like it was like you're saying it and there

was like a giggle in your voice. Who You're like, I know this is probably gonna go bad, but I love my husband. Yea, so here we are like that. It's just being really honoring herself and the fact that she wants to be an optimist and she wants to give people the benefit of the doubt, and that's an active You have to be active to do that. You can't.

You know that there's a passivity to cynicism. And I like that she was vulnerable and capable of just being like, Okay, I'm gonna do this for me and for Nathan because this is the right thing to do. Yeah, I think I might regret this, but I will definitely regret not doing that. But such a mature thing to I never would have done that to an adult in high school, to go up to an adult and be like, you're an ass. But I'm going to give you the benefit

of the doubt. See, I feel like you totally would. Yeah, You've always been that way. In my time knowing you, and we weren't much older than high school, You've always been like you're a monster. But I'm gonna say a little prayer for you, and I'm also going to bring you like a beautiful collage gift like you will over. Yeah, I guess I don't know. I'm trying to think about high school. I was so always so intimidated by my teachers in high school. Yeah, but in real personal relationships not.

I don't know about authority figures like that, but I would agree with Hillary. I think you've always said I don't know that I understand your motivations right now. But I want you. I want to offer you care. I want to be willing to disagree but figure it out. Yeah, and that's that's good good parenting. They taught me how to do it. I guess um speaking to parents. I super love deb and Junk. There scene was the only skit that I was like, okay, oh yeah, I wanted

so much kiser. I'm not even a senior. She did great, She did do great. It was so funny to be there and have Uncle Cooper not there at the party was weird. But he's avoiding Rachel, but he doesn't know she's going to be there. Brooke didn't invite her until that morning. Yeah. But anything that if I were him, anything that had to do with that high school group, I would totally avoid when we were in our yeah, grewing seventeen year olds when I was in my late twenties,

so gross, Um, yeah what else? What? Well? What's also a little tricky is because we're all together, like, yeah, we normally do this on Zoom, so we can take notes on our computers or post it notes or random receipts whatever we got in front of us at our desk, but like, we're together. The whole time we watched this episode, we were having snacks and drinking champagne. We we have no notes, no notes, we have no notes, but a lot of criticism. I don't know what do we love.

I loved that Lucas got a fund from Key. That was a beautiful che up because I would have loved to have gotten in tighter on Lucas as he really like processed that that's a huge thing to lay on a child, And I don't know why Karen wouldn't tell him that before they went and looked at colleges, like is it an easter egg at the end of this trip, where this kid is like, I guess I'll never get into these colleges that I actually want to go to,

never be able to afford it. My dreams are slipping away, and she's like, actually, yeah, it's like life's always a game show in Tree Hill. Yeah, it's like, okay, surprised there's one more prize behind the curtain. I don't know, well,

it really felt again like scenes of convenience. We had to explain why Moira and Chad were not in the episode before, so the exposition was, well, we took this trip to look at colleges, but also to find ourselves again and our hope, And I actually thought that was a lovely Yeah, why was the thought the theme of the episode? Sorry? I just mean like, instead of having the whole thing wrapped around these weird skits, I like

the skit thing. It just could have been like a five minute chunk soliday done like we didn't could have taken half the time, would have It would have been a cute little thing. But it's the fact that that was the setting and we kept jumping back and forth to get back to their Why wasn't Chad and Moira in the car like I don't know if that was out of the opening scene, I don't know, But to keep going back to them and set that setting for what the future is going to hold could have been

really nice. So much more dialogue could have been available for them. Yeah, we could have had a lot more of it, and then you would have felt much more of a group of people, you know, Lucas, Karen, Marcus, Nathan and Haley. You would have really felt that all these people are really trying to move on, but struggling. They're still having a hard time, like what's next? How do we do it? And are we allowed to feel joy? Are we allowed to laugh when our friends do funny

things for us? And you know, when we do and we miss the people who aren't here anymore? How do we hold both? Like they could have asked some deeper questions and not really had to change the episode much. It feels like a missed opportunity roads leading back to home and like that being the journey, it's like, how do we get back? Um? Then the whole like time travel thing going back through Nathan and Haley's journey would have been a metaphor for that. But you know, because

Peyton's driving in, Luke's and Karen are driving in. You know, Marcus has got the tow truck now and he had that red handkerchief tucked in the back of his jeans, like Uncle Keith. Yeah. I wasn't sure if that was on purpose or if he just did that because he had a red rag in the truck and just felt like, as a character thought, oh I'm stick in the back of my jeans. I don't know either. Um, I'm sorry, guys, Like I don't want to be down on this episode.

Because I don't want it to be a downer for you as listeners to listen to us like talking about there's a good stuff about real life, because like we've had to go to three thousand weddings at this point. Oh yeah, yeah, we've had to like sit through speeches and toasts and slide shows and all the things. What are your memorable wedding nick experiences. I know you crashed a wedding. Did you mentioned that the other day? I sure did. It was so fun and I was so

scared and I'm still a little scared. But like someone ever going to yell at me for that to come back, and it's probably past, and you're still terrified. I'm anxious forever. Um, I mean probably I'm thinking about it because these are the things we've done together. But you know, you ask about what's memorable. I think about your wedding. I think

about you guys at my wedding. Like I don't know, I I think there's something really amazing about what what the milestone of a wedding is and and what it means to be people's community. I like having a job at a wedding. Do you know, do you get appointed with like a thing, and Brooke does it in this episode.

I don't I don't know how Brooke makes a dress and then gets the dress rejected in the same day, and then goes shopping and sees Rachel punch a mirror and then go straight to throw the rehearsal dinner party that night, and then when informs the whole night too. By the way, Nathan did Haley come home and she's

made a bedspread dress? That happened And the bedspread don't forget is the material for Karen's wedding dress to Keith that she made into the bed spread for Nathan and Haley and then took back to make Hayley's wedding dress. It's like God all the job. I mean, I love Brook for it. It's same sweet and dressed with her a good friend. It's so generous. When did she have look she made an entire fashion collection in six hours,

ten episodes ago. I think Brook has super fast, superhuman So if she's killed, yeah, I liked at Tyler Hilton and Megan Park sweading at the end of the night. It was at this vineyard and at the end of the night, like we had to take all the I don't know, decorations down and I don't know that anyone

had really thought it through. And so at the end of the night, like some people had taken off in busses and ubers and things, and I'm just there with like le Norris and it's like you want to tackle this and they were like these shop It was just like huge garlands that we were like gathering up, and no one's wearing shoes and it was so sweaty and

we were real drunk. It was such a fun memory of like I don't know, like you go and you go to the party and you do the thing, but then the real work begins of like now you are a family, Now you are committed, and this is your community. And so it was a nice memory of us all just kind of like carrying the ship, like let's just

we're all going to carry the shout with you. And Tyler had this uncle that I really liked flirting with and he was such a good dancer and we I was like, hey, I think it was uncle John was his name. Uh yeah, we had a great time. I was like, you want to carry this stuff together. I want to let me carry this garland. Yeah. I like the sweaty parts of weddings. Yes, everybody just piled into the dance floor, yeah, or just like like lifting up the dress so the bride can pee. Oh my gosh.

That one of my best friends was getting married and she had to pee, and I went in the bathroom with her, and somebody had put a candle on the back of the toilet and her dress caught on fire.

Oh no, what happened the back of it? Like all the crinline, I mean, oh, just was in there and then she's you know, I kind of helped her gather her dress up and it went all up around her in her hands and up around her waist, and then she I put her in the stall and shut the door, just like oh wait, and something smells, and all of a sudden she was like, oh no, oh my gosh, out of the thing. We just put the fire up. But she definitely got married in a dress that was

like burnt underneath. That's terrified. Yeah, it was pretty scary. That reminds me. I remember thinking like, I've just never known a cooler person. One of my best friends from college got married I don't know ten twelve years ago now, and another one of our girlfriends from college. We all

lived together at USC made her dress. She's a great designer, and it was this incredible like gold beaded bodice with layered huge like ball gown skirts, and we got to the reception and she pulled out like fabric shears and we cut her wedding gown into a mini dress. Shut up, and like she worked in fashion, worked at magazines. Is

Jeff like truly the chicest person I know. And to see someone with like one of the most enviable fashion collections that I've ever seen be so unprecious and was just like it's time, let's go, and like we just hacked it off and she ran out on the dance floor and I was like, this is the cool I need to see that in a movie. That it felt like a movie, and I remember being like, I'm going to write that into a scene someday, so we need

to do it. Yeah, that's sexy, okay. And also it's like the groom to watch that, just like all her bridesmaids like cutting off her clothes. I was like, this is it. Yeah, I'm cutting off all the deadweight, starting a new, brand new life together. I did none of that. I was like obviously so amped on making a dress that ever your dress is literally I would never and but there was definitely a part of me that was like this is my exact like this moment, dream for us,

for our family, Like this thing tells a story. And then it was like time to party. I want to be a disco ball and you were like, this is what I look like on the inside. Glamour just sequence how many wedding dresses did we have on our show? Has anyone ever done that? Tally? Because I know I wore a couple. I know Joy wore a couple. Who made you wear? I just did the one which was actually so fun. When I was at season eight that

we did my wedding, I think so. And it was really fun because I had studied, like when Brooke really became a fashion designer, I started going and like shadowing designers. I'd go to fashion Week and I'd go meet and I just I was like, I want to learn. I really want to know a lot about how this industry works. And I worked with a designer that I really loved and I designed Brooks wedding dress. What you did? Yeah,

are you kidding? Yeah? I didn't know that And it was the cool like, I mean, we did it together obviously, Like I can barely draw stick figures, so the idea in my head really worked. But I wouldn't have been we did this thing together, and it's like it just felt really special to do that for Broke Davis. I was like, yeah, girl, i'm'll be right here with you. Love that. I love all those personal touches, Like I loved that you had a tattoo artist at your wedding, Hillary,

I loved it there. Now, like our circle of friends all has the same tattoos, so if we ever worked together again, like Jared and Jeffrey all have the same tattoo now, it's very cute. And Danil, Kevin rom and I all have the same tattoo now, and it's just like, okay, well we did it. It's a family thing. There's this got like the one cell. There was a flash sheet at the wedding right and randomly on the flash sheet like a brain mantis, And I was like, who's going

to get the brain mantis? Who did it? Jeremy Sisto stop and decided to get it, like on his torso so pulled his whole shirt off at the wedding and it's like getting this it was just like first tattoo and he I think he let his kid pick it out. It was like it was a whole thing. But it was just like, and now we all have forever souvenirs. I love that. At the back of the museum grounds in Tulsa, there's this amazing it's an art piece, but it's a cabin, like a full cabin, and it's Grant

and his favorite spot at the museum. And we had talked about maybe we'll set up like a whiskey bar in the cabin that people can go find. Maybe, Oh my god, I was like, Hilary and jem this person do a dad'st their wedding. Maybe we should have whiskey and tattoos in the cabin. And then we walked to the grounds at night and realized like you had to cross a river like someone it's like, actually so far from where the reception was. I was like, people will

get lost, we will never see them again. We will lose people at the museum. It's to turn into and so we decided against it. But Grant was like, well, if we do that, I'll get my first tattoo at our wedding, and I'm I kind of that's the one three party waiting to happen. Like at the end of a wedding, everybody's gone and there's like four people who are left and we're just like we're lost. Were so

lost the museum in the ground. So what you're saying is we're going to write a rom com about a wedding. That's it. I'm ready. We just got home from tour. You guys, I feel like we were taking very good care of It was so fun. Yeah, you took really good care of us, driving us around in that RV.

Every tiber, took care of us, every hotel. Well. In fact, when Hillary had to park the r V on the other side of the George Washington Bridge in New York because in Jersey, because she didn't want to drive the RV in New York City, understandably, there's no place to put the park. So we parked the RV in Jersey and then imfortly and then uber like shuffled us over. We pulled up in those SUVs to pick us up.

We're like, what's going on. We were like, we're on a road trip, but we need to go to the city. And ropes, what if I got myself into But then we got to the Omni in four of our cities and it was just so nice and luxurious. Thank you so much, Omni. We have listener questions. This is great because we are talking about our weird hobbies. Mary wants to know y'all said, you have so many weird hobbies. What's the weirdest? What's your favorite? Which ones do you

still do today? I mean, what's your definition? Remember when I would knit? Oh my god, joy you knitting? It was so that's super weird, I guess. But maybe for like a twenty year old that I will say, I do wish that I could knit. You could. You just have to learn how to use it cast on right, But I just thought allow, But like, nits are expensive. I saw a sweater recently that I wanted and I picked it up and I was like, oh, sorry, it was a nine hundred and fifty dollar sweater. But I

could knit this. And then I was like, actually, maybe here's the pattern. I don't know what other hobbies hobbies do we have. I kind of like, well, Hillary, you and I both like taxidermy, though we don't do it. Some geese that are waiting for stuff, and went out and found a skin out by our pool, and uh, I just brought it inside and I just kind of, I don't know, decorated with it and I put it on a plant, and I didn't realize how upsetting it

would be to like other people in my house. But yeah, if you don't have dead things everywhere, how do you know you're alive? I love them? Have you been to Madame day Role in Paris? The very first convention we ever did? I was like, sorry, everyone, I have somewhere to be. Yes, I love that. Do you know what this place is? That's the cool like museum looking Okay, it's unbelievable and you can buy it all. It's all for sale. It's so beautiful, all the entomology of the bugs,

all of them, so many birds and beautiful animals. Have this cool loose sight paperweight. It's a rectangle. I don't know what's that three three by four inches, maybe with this huge beetle in it from the fifties. Gorgeous. I love it so beautiful and I want more, And then I'm like, but how many? When does it get weird? If there's just little squares with bugs all over my house, like we'll put them all up on the bathroom all or something. Maybe I need one of those big framed things.

I don't know. Yah. Do you guys remember the hobgoblin that was in my house in North Carolina on the bar. Yeah, So there's this. There's this artist that works with Giomo del Toro all the time named Thomas Cubler, and I collected his work when we lived in Wilmington's be because like all the like Anne Rice and Trent Resner did, and I wanted to. So he makes these very realistic looking like goblins and demons and circus freaks and like

you know that kind of stuff. And I decided that I was gonna too, Like I was gonna do it, and so like went to Michael's, got all the sculpi, got like all like this stuff to make dolls. And when Matt Brookman, remember worked on our crews, like they were having a baby and they made so much fun of my hobgoblin. So I made a hobgoblin for their baby as a baby and their dog ate it. He was like, we don't need this in the house. But I was always really into that. And so then during

the pandemic. When Jeffrey and I were doing Friday Night In, we had Ray Shorn from Better Call Saul on our show, and she was like, oh, hey, sorry, we're in my workroom. I make these dolls. And I was like, shot, you're my person, Oh my god, to make these dolls. Yeah, sometimes you should have to make a little demon doll.

You know, that's not weird, it's interesting. I've definitely never made a demon, but I've gotten really into taking old vessels, like random old bowls or old vases and covering them in air clay and then spraying them in like textured terra cotta spray paint or like textured concrete spray paint, or I'm plants in it, like I am fully in my coastal grandmother era in such an intense way. But I put in I'm like, I'm like, I'll just put you lift to sleep in there in my bathroom. Will

smell like a spa. It's so, it's like such a weird hobby. But I saw this video on TikTok and then my friend Sammy and I immediately started doing it. And you made those mushrooms. Oh yeah, you showed me a video of the craft, and I'm like, I feel the other weird thing that I do. And I do this all the time, and I think it became like a set hobby because you know, we live away from home so often. I don't have yeah, like I don't

have all my stuff with me. I have so many secret Pinterest boards for homes that I do not own, probably never will, that I've decorated completely. Like if I ever had a barn in Upstate New York, it would look like this. If I ever had a house in Taos, New Mexico, it would look like this. If I were to live on the lake in Austin, Texas, this is what my house would look like like late at night. This is how I unwind when I get home from set and it's like two am, and I'm amped because

I've had seven coffees. I'm like, let me just design a house. You have got to meet my friend me, right, you know? Yes, Okay, So this is what she does. Later she just sits and on Pinterest. And I asked her. I talked to her about TV shows all the time, and I'm trying to like, have you seen this? She's like, all I want to do? I have two kids. I have a very busy life. All I do when I go to bed, it's just Pinterest. That's all I want to do is decorates, decorate houses and just make boards.

I can't wait to talk to her if I have cords of tiles, wall wall, treatments. It's it's truly the thing. I feel a little high just talking to you, like love it. I feel like my pupils are dialect. I'm just like. We have a follow up question. Have you ever played an interior designer? Oh? You should? But the question is from Lucille. She says, what's your top favorite Phoebe TV film character you've ever played? Um, you know,

would it be your OT character or whatever? But but yeah, you should play an interior Like you should build a brand while you're playing your interior. I don't disagree with you could launch that and like, can't I just go do one of those TV shows where I do makeovers for people who deserve them of their homes. I would literally love nothing more. I would be so happy do it. Do it? You should? That's an easy we're putting it

out there, Okay, Dyson, both of you call us. It's a really interesting question though that Lucy asks, I can't pick a character because to me, it feels like choosing between friends. Yeah. They're not um, They're not like on paper to us, they're people. I mean, I could say when I had the most fun to hang out with? Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you could hang out with any character that you've ever played, who would it be like if you had to call someone and be like, yo, girl, we're going

out tonight. You know what. I did a movie called Unexpected Christmas, cute little Christmas movie, and I really liked that character. She was fun and weird and like I would hang out with her. I can't remember what her name was. Jamie was the guy, and my character's name was Dang. I don't know. So you never talked to yourself. It's so much harder to remember your yeah, I mean, I've got I can't even remember all this we've done.

At this point. She has been a wheel I think we should yeah, alright, most likely to lock their keys in their car while you're looking directly at the department. When Maria was in the backseat, I was look, I was in West Hollywood, I had I just got out of the car and she you know, it was fine there was No. I was perfectly willing to break the window. And it was very quick. The fire department was very close. I wasn't in the middle of nowhere, but that's it.

You don't want to break the wind because and there's glass all over your baby. Like, yeah, I would have broken a the driver's side window and gotten her. She was all the way, you know, like it's fine. But it was definitely a moment of like, oh, I can never ever do this again. Scary. You also started to realize your muscle memory, like you've spent your whole life getting out of your car, slamming the door and clicking

the button. Yeah, you had a brand new baby, and you're just your body clicks the button or or clicks the button on the door. You know what. You know what I'm saying. You like open it, you click it, and suddenly too many things and oh my god, there everything is different. Now. What a moment. Yeah, for all your moms out there who have done that, you're not alone. Yeah, I mean we did a storyline about that on our show. Oh wait, we did wait wait, In later seasons, we

sure did. Oh my gosh, that's right. It was a big scanned You have not seen the episode. Hillary, We'll get there in five years. I'm sitting here like what You're like, I have to look this up on Wikipedia, you know, when you know when I give people the daggers of death. I had to do that to sweet sweet Austin because it was like in our storyline, and like,

even I felt bad. That is an episode I remember watching and I watched my face make the face in the shot coming down the hospital hall, and I was like, oh man, I would not want to be on the receiving end of that face on that person, and it happens to be my face, and I'm uncomfortable. Done. Um, we gotta be wedding coming up. I think in the next episode we're getting ready for it. I hope you guys are all psyched and ready. Next episodes of the finale of season three. Oh my god, we did it.

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