This is doctor Wendy Walsh and you're listening to k I Am six forty, The Doctor Wendy Wallsh Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app k I AM six forty. You have Doctor Wendy Walsh with you. This is the Doctor Wendy Wallsh Show. Can we talk about the science of love? Can we talk about what's going on in the news when it comes to love? Okay, what have I got going for you? How to pay a compliment to grow your love? And there's a bunch of psychobabble that a bunch of us are
using incorrectly. I just want to clear it up. But before we get there, Producer Kayla, what are you thinking about all the students in America who are out there protesting. I'm proud of them. We're standing up for what they believe in. I'm just glad they're off their phones. Yeah, glad they're talking to each other. Yeah, I'm glad they're out there in the real world. Doesn't matter what side anyone's on. We're not going to
get into the content to here, folks. I just want to say that it's been a long time since college students grew a backbone and got out there protesting, and if this is the thing that's doing it for them, good for them. I can't believe that USC canceled their graduation. And this is a group of students who missed their high school graduation in twenty twenty because of
COVID and now this. It's really sad. And I don't think that people are taught how to protest correctly because they don't go into the details when they educate you about the protests that have happened over history as far as the logistics of it. So people are just trying to figure it out the best they can, and it's unfortunate that they can't graduate because of it. I know
it is a shame. But anyway, I'm having a great time watching it from the sidelines because you know, I'm a little too tired to sleep in a tent on a college campus right now. It's not really my time, but I am just applauding everyone who's putting their voice out there. Apathy is dead. We used to say that Americans were so apathetic, and no more, we don't say that anymore. Speaking of Americans, there's a certain American who seems to be in the news every single day because he's sitting in a
courtroom, and that would be former President Donald Trump. So this week I was called by Glamour magazine to ask whether I thought there were some red flags in their marriage. Now, you know, usually when you hear me talk about red flags, I'm usually talking about a budding relationship where like a new attachment is kind of tenuinous and someone's just checking each other out. So there's not a lot of character evidence, right, so you look in for those
flags. We call those the red flags. You know. The comparison is that they're waived on an auto race course, indicating that it's too dangerous to continue. So I always say that I usually reserve my red flags for the hormones before good sense crowd. However, Milania and Donald are a little bit different because every single day it seems there are red flags showing up because the world is speculating about the ties that bind the former first couple. So we're
in twenty twenty four. That means twenty six years after Milania and Donald allegedly first met. I have to say allegedly, because there's a couple of stories about when it actually happened, but we know it's nineteen years after their wedding. So you can say that Milania is clearly the longest running mate of Donald Trump, literally running meat. She's also an enigma, right, She's not appearing that often. When she makes a statement, it's usually with her fashion.
Remember the time she wore that jacket that said I don't care, do you? And she was at the border of visiting, but she said it was about the media. Her voice is relatively soft. But some people think that she wields a great power over Donald Trump because she holds all his secrets and that she has a lot of power. So, hey, I like to say, they're still on the race course. Why don't we wave some red flags together? Here we go. Okay, So here's some of the
things I dug up. It's all on the internet. It's all out there. First of all, here's a red flag. She just renegotiated her prenup. Now it's called a post nup, right. She converted it to what is reported to be a very comfortable post nuptial agreement that will provide a more solid future for she and their son Baron should the parents go separate ways.
Now, some people are speculating that one of the reasons she did this is because she knew that he would have to pay millions of dollars to his attorneys to keep his butt out of jail, and she wanted to make sure that some money was left over for her and the kid. And also, you know, it's a big thing that married people do. They put assets in the wife's name so that if people, you know, win judgments against him, they can't take stuff. Maybe that's in her name. Anyway, she
renegotiated her prenuptial agreement last fall. That's a red flag. Here's another one. Did you know that the two of them have always had separate bedrooms? Uh huh, right from Trump Tower to the White House tomorrow Lago. There's no secret they each have their own bedrooms. They have separate nocturnal quarters. And I don't know is this because of snoring or emotional avoidance. Okay, here's another red flag. They're making no public appearances together. Have you seen
the hashtag where is Milania? Hashtag? It continued well into twenty twenty four. Now we do know that she mourned the loss of her mom, who passed away on January ninth, so she excused herself from public events. For months and months and months. But she didn't even show up at his Super Tuesday election victory speech. Okay, and that was months after her mom passed. Really, like, where has Melania been in twenty twenty four? I should sort of add as an aside, Avanka's gone too. He's a loaner
out there. All his work wives are not showing up. Here's the biggest red flag in my mind. No courtroom support. There's her husband. He's withstanding a humiliating courtroom trial about hush money and maybe sex with a pornography actress, and he's going it all by himself. She has not accompanied her husband to any of his court appearance appearances, and there have been many different trials.
In fact, one source told People magazine that Milania told her quote, this fourth indictment is another problem for her husband, not a problem for her. In other words, that's his business. But the biggest red flag is that black says it all. She finally showed up last weekend, April twentieth, at the log Cabin Republicans fundraiser. Let's just stop right there. Do you know what the log Cabin Republicans are? Kaylet do you have any idea
I don't know. It's the LGBTQ Republicans. Isn't that cute log cabins. They used to meet out at log cabins. Then they're ranches because they couldn't be in public in this way. It was cute, the log cabin Republicans. So she shows up. It's at mar a Lago she hosted. He's not there. It was a day after a New York jury was finally selected to weigh in on Donald's criminal trial. She finally appeared. Now I want everyone to stop and think about this for a moment. It's spring, It's
palm Beach, Florida, I said, Florida, the sunshine state. In April. Florida is the home of white pants. In January, and Milania strategically shows up in a black pants suit. Black black black, the color of grieving. Makes me wonder is she mourning the demise of her relationship? Remember she makes statements with her clothes. That's just weird. I've been to Florida in April. It's uncomfortable to wear black, and she wore long black
jacket, long black pants. She's been talking without words for a while. Uh, and we hear her loud and clear but people are saying, oh, she's for the money. Do you know how many even richer guys are in the world who would treat her so well? And I think, once you have somebody like Donald Trump on your roster, more men like that want you because he's had you. And it's like, oh, well, did I ever tell you the story? Do I have time to tell a story? Okay, got a little time, ye, you can tell us.
So one time I was working for Extra as a reporter and we did a Day in the Life of Donald Trump. So I followed him around for the whole day, and he flirted with me, actually did a very nice thing. At the end of the day, we were down atlant It ended in Atlantic City at one of his casinos, and he said, how are you getting back to New York? And I said, I'm driving in the van with the crew. That's what we do. And he goes, oh,
that's silly. Let me give you my chopper. And so he takes me in an elevator up to the top of the roof with his security people, and suddenly my coat that I'd given to somebody earlier on the first floor suddenly appears. And then a chef comes out with a white hat and a picnic basket with a bottle of champagne and lobster. And they put me in the back of his helicopter and he says goodbye and he leaves, and all of a sudden, there I am all by myself. And this is before social
media. This is nineteen ninety six ish, and I'm flying from Atlantic City to New York and Donald Trump's helicopter the only passenger Sip in my champagne, eat in my lobster, because you know, he knows how to treat the
media. But here's the thing. When he was kind of flirting with me and asking me questions about me, he kept asking me who I dated and where I sat at Laker games, Like it was clear to me that I was only of value to him if I dated celebrities or powerful men, like he would want to take me away and steal me as an object or an
asset of another man more than just get to know me. You know, remember when he was bragging in the Access Hollywood tapes of a taking Nancy O'Dell's shopping and he goes and she was married, and she was married, and she went shopping with me, Like the fact that she was, in his mind quote quote unquote owned by another man, raise the value because it's like
a competitive thing for him. But it was the weirdst I'd never flirted with a guy where all he wanted to know was the names of any celebrity or powerful man that I dated. Kind of weird. So anyway, she I think if Malaney went back on the mating marketplace, she would have no problem finding Now, maybe she likes just the limelight, and maybe she likes the power of the presidency. But if he loses, if he loses, she
set up. She got her new post nap. She set up just saying all right when we come back, do you believe in the five love languages, especially words of affirmation? I'm about the buster bubble. You are listening to the Doctor Wendy Wall Show and I am six forty We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. You're listening to Doctor Wendy Walsh on demand from KFI AM six forty AM six forty. You have Doctor Wendy Walsh for you. This He is the Doctor Wendy Waalsh Show. This your love to tell you you're
beautiful every day? Do you tell them? Do you tell them how grateful you are for each other. Well, I think that's a good thing. But if you're doing it because you believe in the five Love Languages, then I got some news for you. Maybe you've heard of the book. It was written way back in nineteen ninety two. The book is called The Five Love Languages How to Express heartfelt Commitment to your Mate. It's a super popular
book. It was written by Gary Chapman, who's a Baptist minister, and his book basically outlines ways that lovers can express love or experience love, and his theory is if we can just learn each other's love language, then we'll have a better relationship. In his book, the five so called love languages because he made them up that he proposed are words of affirmation, given someone compliments, quality time, spending one on one time together, physical touch,
acts of service or like that, and receiving gifts. Ooh, a lot of women like that. Bring me gifts, Then I know you love me. Right. When I first met Julio, he told me that his love language was acts of service, And I said, I bet you say that to all the girls, right, Because people are using this stuff in common lexicon now it is just the way they talk like that's their love language. Well, here's the bad news. There is not a lick of scientific research
to prove that it's real or that it works. So many researchers have tried to find what we call validity and reliability with the concept because, like, think about it, it sounds really plausible, right, but remember astrology sound it's plausible too, And if you believe in astrology, I'm sorry to burst that bubble too. There's absolutely no research. I mean they've done research it.
You know what. They take the deck of astrological forecasts or descriptions of people based on their signs, and they shuffle it and they hand it out to people and they say this is you, and they read into it because it's so vague, and every time they go, that's exactly me. Now
it's astrologies and neither are the love languages. Here's the worst news. Even when couples and they put put in scientific experiments and told you must practice the love language model, you must learn your partner's love languages and respond to it in their love language, research has been completely unable to find that these couples are happier or even more satisfied in their relationship than any other couple who doesn't
do the love languages. So there you go, like astrology. But having said that, I personally think that words of affirmation, forget about the love language part, are just a way to reprogram your own brain. It's a form of self talk. I mean, we're talking about relationship with science here, so positive self talk. We know this. There's lots of research on this is a proven winner. It's been shown to if you just say good things about yourself, for instance, you can improve your own attention or your
emotional regulation. There's been research to show that you can achieve more in sports or academics. It can help reduce symptoms of depression, anxiety, improve your mood. I mean just saying nice things to yourself inside your head. And I have always said that showing appreciation, gratitude, complimenting your partner does two things. Really. One is those words of affirmation I think act as a
kind of behavioral reward system. So in other words, if you praise somebody for doing something nice, they're going to want to do more of it. They like getting the compliments, they like getting thanked, they like getting prayed. But here's the other thing, when you speak positive words to your partner, your own brain is listening. You reaffirm your commitment to them, so it reminds you of why you're there, and then you feel good about your
choice, so you like your relationship better. You know. I often say that life is just a self fulfilling prophecy anyway. And one of the things they do know about they being those researchers out there about long term happy couples is that they continue to value each other. They continue to speak kindly and wonderfully about each other. Okay, so let's say, as just an experiment in your own little household, you want to try, how to how to
introduce you want to try. I don't know why I'm not talking well today. I think as I woke up. I woke up, kayle at five in the morning, just I couldn't get back to sleep, and the birds were singing outside my window, and it made me so happy that I just listened to them and then I got up. That's a lovely way to wake up. Then by this time it's like, okay, yeah, but it's kind of late to have coffee. Okay, if you want to use more
words of affirmation in your relationship. Here's what you need to do. Catch your partner being good. Keep your eyes open, watch for small acts, things that you can thank them for right on the spot. Also find the smallest things. Compliment your partner frequently on the very smallest things. They refilter you a cup of coffee. Oh, thanks, love, that's so sweet of you. They threw in a quick load of laundry. Oh that's so nice. You thought that the laundry need to be done. Thank you,
baby. Don't wait to notice the unexpected, compliment the expected. I know I have a friend who says, but they should know and they shouldn't need to get some kind of reward for just doing just what they're supposed to do. No. Happy relationships are about two people feeling appreciation and gratitude for each other. I will say this, don't tell lies. Be authentic, okay, be sincere. Allow yourself to truly feel gratitude for your partner so you
can make your appreciation real. There's also research by doctors John and Julie Gotman at the Marriage Lab at the University of Washington to say that if you explain why it benefits you, then the gratitude means that much more. So say, oh my god, I was so late for work today and I noticed that you put in that laundry before I went. That's so sweet of you. It made my day so much easier. That sounds so much better than just thanks babe and running out the door. Also touch your partner, had
a loving touch. When we touch our partners, we communicate in a much deeper way. And to hear some things you should be saying all the time. You guys, I love you, I appreciate you. You're the person I always wished for. I used to say that to my kids. You're the daughter I always wished for. Also support them. You've got this, babe, I'm on your team. Or how about you inspire me? You're
so smart. You make my life so much easier. Why aren't we saying this more often, especially if we'd been with somebody for a long time, and don't say they should know, they should know it's been enough time. No. I remember I saw a femail comedian say that. She said to her husband one time, how come you never tell me you love me? And he said I did at our wedding. All right, when we come back. How to cope with distressful feelings. According to somebody who I fangirl
over a lot, doctor Sigmund Freud. You are listening to the Dodor Wendy Wall Show and KFI AM six forty we live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. You're listening to doctor Wendy Walsh on demand from KFI AM six forty. I could say to you AFI am six forty, You've got doctor Wendy Walsh with you. This is the Doctor Wendy wallsh Show. When I was in graduate school and I learned about that, I call him the father of psychoanalysis,
doctor Sigmund Freud. What was really interesting that a lot of people didn't know he's a medical doctor as well, is that back in Victorian times, women were going to medical doctors with unexplained physical illnesses blindness, paralysis, bad stomachs, and the doctors, the medical doctors couldn't find anything wrong, and they
would try all the treatments and they didn't get better. And when they'd finally give up, they'd say, send her to doctor Freud, see what he can do, and he would lie them on his famous couch and he would just allow them to talk. They were often women at a time when women were very repressed. Of course, he came up with this psychosexual theory that women had penis enved. We didn't envy your penis, as guys, we
envied your power. And so he gave them a voice. And by letting them talk, and the talk they did about abuse as children, trauma, sexual abuse, and and as they were able to have this release, they started to get physically better. And this is when we started to learn about the talking cure. The other thing that Sigmund Freud, although you know, some of his stuff we can throw today, but let's not throw out the
baby with the bathwater. The other important thing that he did is he came up with this idea or he expanded on other ideas from others of the unconscious. The fact that if you can picture an iceberg, you know, you always see these pictures of an iceberg where there's a tiny little tip above the water and this huge mammoth thing is underneath the sea. That's our unconscious. We think we're aware of everything, but it's just a little tip at the
top. That's our thoughts that we're aware of. But most of our behaviors come from feelings that are buried underneath, and so Frey came up with this idea. He said, you know what, human beings don't like uncomfortable feelings. We don't like to feel distress, And so he came up with these things he called ego defenses. I like to call them just defense mechanisms. And these are our perfect psychological strategies designed to protect us, protect us from
anxiety, or protect us from unacceptable thoughts or feelings. On the other hand, the defenses themselves can sometimes become problematic, but they are so understood today that we use Freud's language in our common language every day. For instance, one of the most common defense mechanisms is denial. How often do we say we you're in denial. You're in denial. You don't even realize this guy's
a total jerk and he's harding you. You're in denial, right, we understand, right, So sometimes we just bury stuff because we don't want to feel that anxious feeling. Another one might be repression, right where let's say some was betrayed earlier in this in life, and so later in life they mistrust everybody else because somebody hurt them early on. That's repression, right,
or projection? Heye one time I was in graduate school and I had a teacher who said, Hey, today we're going to learn about what it feels like to feel anger and discussed. So what I'd like you to do, just to help us so you can be aquare of your feelings, is I'd like you to take a piece of paper and i'd write you write down the name of the person you dislike and hate the most in life. Just write
it at the top. You're not gonna have to hand it in. And then I'd like you to write down all the things you hate about them. And while you're doing that, be aware of any physical sensations in your body, tightness in your chest, whatever. We really want you to get into true deep anger, So write down everything you hate about that person. And then after we finished doing that, she said, all right, now, I'd like you to all cross off the name at the top and write your
own name. That is Carl Jung's shadow. And so what Freud would say is that we take some of the most uncomfortable pieces of ourself that we can't even accept, and we project them onto other people projection, and we think about it. The person who says that the check comes at lunch and they're splitting it up and they're like, who had the soup? Now you nax
to four dollars because you had the soup. That is usually the most miserly person who criticizes the other people for being cheap all the time is the one who's the cheapest. So listen to your language. When you're gossiping about other people, you're really gossiping about yourself. Then Freud came up with things like displacement, where we take our anger and we have a bad day, we don't like our work, we go home and we yell at the kids,
or regression. We regress sometimes to children. Look, the other day, I had very few miles left on my battery, and it was late at night, and I didn't want to charge for long, so I charged just enough to get me to school the next morning. And then when I got on the freeway that night, I drove the wrong way on the freeway and the next exit was like five miles away, and all those miles were wasted, and I took a full on little tantrum at the steering wheel. That's
regression. I totally totally regressed. Fred said there are some healthy defense mechanisms like sublimation where you take your own pain, you look for other people experiencing the same pain, and you go help them out, and by helping them, you feel better. That's why everybody who recovers from addiction, often not everybody, but many people become addiction counselors or they sponsor other people, like
in the Alcoholics Anonymous program. Right. Also, he said humor was really healthy, right, being able to separate a little bit from our pain. Almost every comedian out there suffers from depression, anxiety, all host of things, and humor has been the thing that calms them down. Right. It creates a little separation. Maybe that's why I like, really don't humor. There's one defense mechanism that I'm going to tell you when I come back that
my therapist used to tell me that I used the very most. I'll explain when I come back. Also, let's talk about introverts and extroverts dating each other. It can be a little dicey sometimes, but it can be wonderful too. Let's talk about it. You're listening to the Doctor Wendy Walsh Show on k I AM six forty one live everywhere on the iHeartRadio appen. You're listening to Doctor Wendy Walsh on demand from KFI AM six forty. KFI AM
six forty, you have Doctor Wendy Walsh with you. This is the Doctor Wendy Walsh Show. You know, I was an in and out of therapy for eighteen years, swear to God, like a long time. Whenever i'd have a crisis, I'd be back in for a couple of years. And it's like a kind of reparenting, you know, in many ways. But I was a smarty pants in therapy. Literally, I was busy reading psychological textbooks so I would have answers. I wanted to know more than the therapist.
And it's very common that highly intelligent am I calling myself highly intelligent, that intelligence. Smarty pants people big mouth smarty pants people use this particular Freudian defense mechanism, and I used it a lot. It's called rationalization. Rationalization is where people justify their feelings or their behavior with seemingly logical reasons and explanations.
And I remember having a professor once tell me that the hardest patients to treat are the highly intelligent ones because they're trying to bamboozle the therapist and be a little bit smarter than the therapist at all times. Rationally. Here's a simple example of rationalization. Let's say there's somebody who shop lifts, but they say, but I never shoplift from a Mom at pop store, only big box stores that are owned by big corporations. And actually those corporations need the
tax deductions, they need to show the losses. It's called I rationalization. It's seemingly logical. It's still illegal. If we all did it, yeah, nobody would be in business. All right. Oh, there's one other Freudian defense mechanism I want to mention. That's reaction formation, when you do actually the opposite, when you're really like somebody but you're mean to them. Oh yeah people, Well that's a middle school yeah people yours? Yes,
wow, yeah, they do the opposite weird or the other way. You're really mad at your spouse, so you're really warm and sweet to them because you've just been taught. So if you can't say anything nicely, nothing at else, you're just sweet. I wish I had that. Yeah, yeah, that's nice. No, you should be authentic. It's okay to be
authentic. Track these with honey, Yeah, hey we just did in Uh, We're near the end of the school year, and we were doing personality type last week and I had the students take the Big Five personality test, which is the most sort of used and respected personality test, and it looks at different aspects of your personality, how open you are, how neurotic you are, and so how conscientious you are. But one of the big ones
is introversion versus extraversion. And where do you think I laid on that scale? Extrovert? Yeah, ninety seven percent, Yeah I was, I was gonna gas one hundred. Yeah, I'm a surprised with three percents introverty. I actually have no secrets because nobody can gossip about me, ever, because I've already told somebody the truth because I already got loud. I think got loud. I'm such an extrovert, and I in the past have mostly dated
introverts, really because I like the balance, I like an audience. But there have been clashes, because a true extrovert is somebody who gets their energy around other people. They like. They go out and then they talk and they get animated and they socialize and they come back feeling like, Hey, I could stay up all night. I have so much energy. That was so exciting. Introverts come back from a social situation like that and feel absolutely
drained. They get most of their energy from being completely alone. And I know you don't realize this, Kitlin, but I actually have a big introverted side too. Like I do like to be alone. I like to alone, do creative things, just have quiet time by me. I like that. But it's really important that people understand that if you're an extrovert and you're dating an introvert, know your person isn't a debbie downer and just just want
to go to events. They actually need quiet time alone. They're not abandoning you, they're not rejecting you. They just need their personal space, and you, as an extrovert, have to learn to accept that. On the other hand, little miss introvert as to understand that your guy needs a party. Everyone like literally needs. Is not like, well, can't he just stay home and watch TV with me? No, you have a choice.
If you have the energy go to that party with them. You can be the wallflower and let them show off or let them go and understand they're not abandoning you, they're not rejecting you. They just need that for their energy. But the most important thing is that everybody talks about it, right, not in a way of well, you're always going out and you're never here with me. How about I see you have a need to go out and be with people. It's hard for me to go out as often as you
do. How should we solve this together? Right? Either way, Sometimes introverts mary introverts and they have the most peaceful life together. I've actually sat at dinner tables with couples that are both introverts, and I'm like, what did they talk about? Do they ever talk? Maybe they just feel understood by each other because an extrovert is going to make them feel like that talk what's up with you? And it's like I was just well, I am. On the other hand, for the first time in my life, I'm
with another extrovert. Is he an extrovert? Oh? You should see him at parties. Oh he is a talker. Oh he's always in business mode when he's here. So yeah, see too much of that? Yeah, I guess when he comes to work with me, he helps you out and then he gets worked done. He's on his emails and doing his stuff. Right, I don't see it, but No. The first time we went out to an event together that was like a big you know, red carpet kind of big, and I watched him work the room. I was like,
whoa, I've never seen were you so attracted to that? I was. I liked it. I liked it because I was I've always been doing the heavy lifting myself, because I was the extrovert, and I'd be dragging these introverts. I remember one time I was at this party and I was with an introvert who had trouble with parties, and I made the mistake of saying because we had just gotten there and I was having so much fun and I was going to go see so and so, and he was like,
how long are you going to stay? Like what time do you want to Because what he was planning in his head is how long can I tolerate this? But I didn't have my compassion meter on at that moment, so I wasn't able to say, oh, I see, this is a a stressful situation for you. How it would be a good amount of time that you think you could tolerate. Let's figure it out together. No. No, I wasn't in that mood. I already had a tequila in my hand, and I just looked at him and said, look, if you need to
go, go, and he was totally insulted. Oh, and I was just like it. He got all mad and I was just like, no, I'm not saying I want you to go. I'm just saying if you need to go, because I need to stay at this party. It's my friend's birthday. We're going to dance. There's a band. I thought you were just giving him a green light, like, hey, if you want to leave, you can leave, you know, no pressure, And I would take it as a total rejection and turned into a mini fight. I'm
an extrovert. That's learning opportunity for me. I thought that I'm just okay interesting. Yeah, I think the words I should have said are, Oh, I know parties are hard for you. I'd love for you to stay, but if it's a little tough for you, I'll understand if you need to leave early. But I just said, if you need to go, go, Yes, that's what That's what I would have said. I know. So do you mostly date introverts or extroverts? Yeah, I typically date
introverts. I like introverts. I like yourself. But because I like to talk and I'll have to be listened to. And yeah, but did you know that extroverts often think that introverts are actually really smart because they're so quiet and observing. I thought they would think that we're cringe because like, why are you doing that? Stop it? We're in public. So it's nice
that they think that we're smart, and they like that. And extroverts think that introverts think of them as being dumb like diarrhea, mouth and whatever. And the truth is introverts think of extroverts as being really dumb. Just say, hey, when we come back, let's go to social media. I want to answer some relationship questions. No, not yet, We're not going to social media. At where are we going? We are going to talk
about new psychobabble. Ooh that's right. I've been talking about the Freud defense mechanisms. Yeah, you know, there's a bunch of psychobabble people have been using all the time, and they've been using it incorrectly, Like boundaries. Nobody understands the real definition of boundaries. Let me explain it all when we come back. You are listening to the Doctor Wendy Walls Show on KFI AM six forty. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. You've been listening to
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