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Is marriage on the decline? How about divorce? Dr. Wendy has answers. She is also answering your relationship questions with her makeshift drive by relationship advice. Why are partnered mates so attractive? There is an answer. PLUS is your marriage salvageable? 10 questions to ask each other. Dr. Wendy talks about it all on KFIAM-640.

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This is Doctor Wendy Walsh and you're listening to KF I Am six forty the Doctor Wendy Walsh Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. They have I Am six forty. You have Doctor Wendy Walsh with you. This is the Doctor Wendy Walsh Show. Oh my goodness. I find statistics on marriage so interesting

because there's so much talk. I've had lots of conversations recently with friends who of a certain age, who have teenager or young adult kids, who say either I'm never gonna have kids because of global warming, they're all afraid of this, or I'm never ever going to get married. Well, I want you to understand about the history of marriage. Marriage in many ways was a safety net for women during patriarchy. I know we're still in patriarchy if you

believe the Barbie movie. They're just hiding it better. But now women need marriage less. I will say that statistically, marriage is still the best nest we have for children, until we have free childcare in every workplace, until we have good child tax credits for parents who are single parents, until we have ways to build villages around different shapes and looks and compositions. Of families,

then that traditional marriage thing is going to linger around. One of the things we're finding is that the reason why marriage rates have fallen, and they've fallen by sixty percent over the past fifty years, is that the age of marriage is moving up. They're just not getting married yet, right, So the average age of marriage that you know, a couple decades ago is in

the early twenties is in the early thirties now. Also, there are still places where gay people are not allowed to marry, So that's going to impact marriage rates because in the past, society might have forced gay people into heterosexual looking marriages. Right. People with attachment issues who feel very uncomfortable with emotional intimacy, who used to get into marriages because society said they had to, and then they become a workaholic or a traveling person, or they detach in

some way to create mental space for themselves. These people now don't have to get married. Right. Remember, marriage isn't for everything. As I said, it's not for everyone, but statistically speaking, it's still the best protection we have for kids. And just because people aren't getting married doesn't mean they're not coupling up. The rate of people living together is bigger than ever. The good news is the divorce rate has been slowly declining for the past twenty

years. People are waiting. They're waiting to get married so they're older, they have a better brain, they have better decision making ability. They're just making better choices of mates. I want to remind you I say it all the time. I'll say it again until death do us part was invented. Death was pretty imminent, and so because of our very long newish life expectancies, And for you anti vaxxers out there, I want to say, the only reason, the biggest reason why we're living so long has to do with

childhood vaccination. It's okay, and so were. Our long life expectancies mean that even the most monogamous of humans and human beings have the widest range of sexual behavior of any primate species. Some people just aren't monogamous. Some people are monogamous. I actually think that should be a good question to ask on a first date. Do you consider yourself a monogamous person? I used to say on dates I didn't have the language for monogamy. I would say I'm

a couple person. I do better when I'm in a couple remember saying that on dates and if it scares off guys, ladies could do the touchdown cheer. Those are the ones you don't want around. You're not trying to find someone that you're in love with and make him love you. No, you're supposed to find somebody who's ready to take on the same things that you want to take on. That's all that matters, all right. So what we do know is that divorce is very contagious. Well, marriage is contagious.

To remember in your twenties, one person would get married and the next person would get married, and before you know you're buying all these wedding gifts and going on. It's very contagious. Divorce is also contagious because if you have a friend of a friend, it's like supposedly six degrees of separation. If you have a friend of a friend of a friend who gets divorced and you hear about it, they're grapevine and you're kind of in a bad relationship.

You were sticking it out because everybody in your circles stayed married. You're kind of going, huh, they did it. Let me get some info on how they're faring, right, And then you separate, and then your neighbor next door goes, wow, they separated. Maybe it's actually okay. Now that's how it becomes contagious. So a little bit of research, new research that shows the ten states in the United States with the absolute shortest marriages.

Don't worry. I have a list coming up for the longest marriages, Kaylea. If you had to guess which state you think has the shortest marriages, what would it be? Florida, Florida. Yeah, I want to guess Florida too. I would have Yeah, but it's not on the list. It's not even in the top ten. Man, and that interesting, Yeah it is. Wow, Maybe they say because Miami is its own little island and it's got a lot of Latin influence on Catholic influence, so we'd being

forced to stay together. Roll. If you had to guess which state has the shortest marriages, what would it be? Maybe in New York, Like, oh why, just because it's like such a like hustle and bustle, quick moving, very fast city. So I feel like people were like that there, Well it's not New York, not even in the top ten. I know, Sandy. If you had a guess which state had the shortest marriages the most divorces? What would it be? Gosh, um gosh,

what kind of you would think? It'd be kind of a state where everybody was kind of hedonistic and selfish, right, And I'm trying to oh yeah, and you're gonna say it now, aren't you. Yeah, you're gonna say the name of that state. Utah. No, I don't know. They just add on wives. They just add on wives. They don't divorce it. Okay, Well, let's see. I suppose you know, it could be you'd thinking eastern state, but it could be someplace out west,

maybe like um, let's see, perhaps uh, Nevada. I'll try that way. Okay, you ready, Washington, d C. You say, on the east, and that's not a state. The median day of marriage in Washington, DC is ten years Okay. Then followed by Alaska, Texas, Nevada, and then there we go and then Utah. So you were getting close there. All right, let's go with the longest marriages. Which

states do you think have the longest marriages? Fingers cross California. You know, California is so eclectic, it doesn't end up on the top ten of either of these lists a man. Well, let's see what main is Number two. You're very good media and duration of marriage is twenty one point eight years. It's number two. Its neighbor is number one, New Hampshire and

then Pennsylvania. They just stay married. They stay. Mar I used to host this show on you know, one of those Home and Garden Networks things, and it was called Splurge, and it was about sort of average middle

class people who took all their life savings and splurged on something. Why right, So we did this thing in the suburbs of Pennsylvania and there was this happily married couple and they had planned to splurge by moving to Florida, and they couldn't pull the trigger on it because they were so darn in love with

their grandkids. So instead he built like an entire sports bar, literally bigger than the bungalow house in his backyard, filled with sports memorabilia so that all the family could come over every Sunday and just watch sports games, had big screens on the It was wild. And so that's a splurch But they stay together all those years. It wasn't going to be okay, Well, you go to Florida, then it's let's find a compromise. What else did I

want to say about marriage being on the decline and the divorce rate? So yeah, I must be early dimension because I'm starting to forget what I was going to say. I want to say this about marriage. Obviously, religiosity is most highly associated with marriage because every religion, no matter what the religion, is invested in making rules around sex and love and marriage because they want

to grow the number of members they have. So if they're always encouraging marriage and encouraging that those children be raised in that religion, and so as a result, highly correlated. Another thing highly correlated with religion is politics. Sorry, with the marriage is politics. As you can imagine, on the right, the conservatives more likely to marry early. But interesting enough, people who identify as conservative have more divorces. Who knew so people who identify getting married

too young. That's the difference, right, So they you still they like there's some weird people who identify conservative still use the term pre marital sex as if sex is something you would do on your way to marriage. It wouldn't be like just sex for fun or sex for a fling, or sex for this summer or sex for this night. So people who identify liberal tend to more like shorter relationship, sex for fun, etc. And when they do marry, they marry later in life and as a result, they have less

time to have that many divorces. Also, we know the prefrontal cortex is not fully developed until you're at least twenty five or twenty six, and that's the part of your brain that is well, it's a good decision making part of your brain. Right, So the highest rate of divorces are with anybody who gets married before the age of twenty three. All right, so you want to the fact that this marriage rate is going up. I think it's good for finding good partners, right if you're thirty one years old, if

that's now the new average age of first time marriage. But it's hard for women and fertility because the height of female fertility has not changed in thousands of years, and it is the age of twenty I'm not joking twenty now. It hovers about that through the for a decade or so. It takes a big dive at thirty falls off a cliff at thirty five. So, ladies, if you're not marrying until you're thirty one, or thirty two. Get

on it right, get on it if you want to have kids. Reminder pulling all those child free adults off the guilt wagon here that also throughout history, twenty percent one in five humans do not biologically procreate because evolution made it that. We need alloparents. We need coaches and teachers and aunties and uncles and all kinds of helpers babysitters to help us with our kids. And you raise the species two. You really do. Parents are just too busy,

all right. When we come back, I am going to social media. I see a lot of questions coming in on my DMS and I would love to answer your relationship questions when we come back. You're listening to the Doctor Wendy Walsh Show on kf I AM six forty. We live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Right now, let's go to Sandy Wells in the twenty four hour Camfin Newsroom. You're listening to Doctor Wendy Walsh on demand from kf I AM six forty. Kay, bye Am six forty. You have Doctor Wendy

Walsh with you. This is the Doctor Wendy Walsh Show. This is the time in the show when I answer your dating and relationship questions or reminder, I'm not a therapist. I'm a psychology professor, but I'm a woman with a lot of life experience and I've written a number of books on relationships. I'm really obsessed with the science of love. So let's get to it. If you would like to send in a question, just y m me on my social media. The handle everywhere is at doctor Wendy Walsh. That's at

dr Wendy Walsh. That's everywhere on social media. All right, Hi, doctor Wendy. I'm thinking about getting a dating coach to help me with approach, anxiety and getting a date. Is this a good idea? If so, what would you look for in getting someone who is good. I have a few opinions about this, and some of you are not going to like to hear my opinions. I think if anybody has issues that include anxiety, worry, depression, fears, attachment issues, you need to see a licensed

therapist. Now, if you're somebody who you know just hasn't dated a lot of years and you need a wingman or a wingwoman, you know psychologically, they're not going to probably go out on a scouting with you, but someone to help you go through the dating apps or help you build your profile, a friend who understands the mating marketplace. Then yeah, call one of the

dating coaches out there, see if they can help you out. But if you're working on mental health stuff, your best wingman is a therapist and they can give you man or woman and they can give you great advice. Dear doctor Wendy, my date doesn't tip weight staff. He had such strong opinions about it when I brought it up. I'm no longer interested in him. How do I tell him? All right? First of all, you didn't refer to him as your partner, your boyfriend, your husband, your love,

none of that. You called it your date. You owe nothing, nothing, not even an explanation. I know, but don't ghost him. We all wonder after someone has broken up, I like, why what did I do wrong? If you want to talk about your values, if you want to talk about how you don't believe your values match his value, okay, fine, you can say it like this. Hey, you know,

I really liked you. It's nice getting to know you. That conversation we had about you not wanting to tip showed me that your values in mind don't really match, right, So you're not saying he's bad, you're good. You're just saying that you know we're not really a good match in the value

department, So good luck to you, that's all you say. You've got to remember everybody that when you end a relationship, whether that relationship was one phone call with somebody you met on a dating app, or whether you went for a coffee date, or whether you went for a real date, a long date at dinner date, you may see that person again. You may see them online, you may see them in the real world. You may

walk into a job interview one day and they're the person interviewing. So I want you to imagine that you live in a very small town, because this is how it happens in big cities, that they're a bunch of little, small small towns connected. And I want you to imagine you're going to see this person again, and that's how you should always break up with them. Ghosting it is for the week, that's what it's for. Oh, here's not a good one. My new boyfriend took the condom off in the middle

of sex without telling me. There's a word for that now. It's called stealth thing. I felt betrayed and gross, and I thought and he thought I was being overly dramatic. You know, it still haunts me, and so I can't be intimate with him yet. How can we get back to where we were? All right? So you referred to him as your new boyfriend, so you don't have to go forward with this, but I understand

the trust has been broken. You know, if a woman gets an STI from a man, that's bad enough, But if a woman gets pregnant, depending on what state you live in these days, that's twenty years of hard labor. This is no joke. This is a very very serious thing. I think in a few it sounds like you really want to mend this, you really want to give make this relationship great. Then you guys need to get into couples therapy because it's going to take a long time for him to

earn your trust back after something that bad. But I know some of you out there like, how did she not know? You know what, when you're in the throes of passion, sometimes you don't know what's going on. Okay, Dear doctor Wendy, I decided to go natural. I barely wear makeup, congratulations. I wear my curls. Yeay, I do that too all summer long. I'm brunette again. Who I love myself so much more, but I get a lot less attention. Men don't approach me anymore.

I still think I'm attractive. Why are men more standoffish? Well, you're talking to a woman who's had every hair color. Well, no, mostly blond, brunette, gray, blonde, brunet, gray. I'll probably go in the coffin with hair color because I go gray. I went gray so early, but I've gone brunette because I wanted to match my kids when they were little. I know what you're talking about. When you walk out in

the world, you are treated differently when you're a blonde. I want to say this, though, you know who's the most attractive, People who like themselves, And if you feel you're attractive, that's all that matters, you know. I keep quoting the Barbie movie because it's just so amazing. Times you saw it three times? No, Tis, I'm going to see it a third time. I'm going to see it a third time. Okay, Gayla. But there's a line that's kind of my favorite dark joke that says,

you're either you're one of two Barbies. You're either brainwashed by Ken or you're considered weird Barbie. And I thought I'm gonna be weird Barbie. That's so much better. So don't be afraid to be weird Barbie, even if it's curly brown hair. I mean, what's wrong with curly brown hair? Gorgeous? Gorgeous, gorgeous. However, if you're imagining that men are being more standoffish, you need to stand taller, love yourself, and have a different kind of man and man come up to you. It's going to work

because you need to like yourself. Dear doctor Wendy, Why am I attracted to what I can't have and doesn't want me? I do like people, but when they start to like me back, I lose interests. Okay, I hear yah, you'll preaching to the choir. This is exactly how I was when I was young. It's I couldn't. It was only after years of therapy when I learned that I had all these attachment issues. It's somehow I had this crazy belief system that if I could make this out of touch,

out of reach mate love me, then I would like myself. But it's actually the other way around. If you can get to a place of deeply liking yourself and knowing that you deserve love and care, then more people are going to be attracted to you, and you'll be comfortable being loved. Remember what I said, I had to learn to tolerate kindness. Isn't that crazy? Because I was in love with longing. I wasn't in love with the secure feeling of love. I was in love with the loss. Crazy.

But that's how it is. It's all about early childhood programming. Okay, On that same note, when we come back, I want to talk about why mates who have partners already are just so darn attractive to us. And if you are dating a married person, here's what you need to do. You're listening to the Doctor Wendy Wells Show on kf I AM six forty Relive everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. You're listening to Doctor Wendy Walsh on demand from kf I AM six forty fi Am six forty. You have Doctor Wendy

Walsh with you. This is the Doctor Wendy Wealsh Show. Oh don't you wish every married person would say that my baby's got all my love already. Some do, some do, but plenty of them loved to have backup mates or other mating opportunities. I have a little disclosure here. This is not a segment about morality. I don't believe even morality. I don't believe in

a sense that one thing is right and another thing is wrong. I think that human beings are built for survival, and they make individual decisions about what is best for their survival. Sometimes making a decision that you might think is immoral actually helps their survival. For instance, if they go after a partner who is richer, then maybe their kids will get to eat better and go

to better schools. It's a survival decision. So sometimes though, they'll make a mating decision that they think might help their survival, but then they get ostracized by the tribe and told, oh, what you're doing is immoral, like dating that married person, and as a result, it hurts their survival chances. So sometimes dating a married person, don't shoot the messenger. Sometimes

it works. Lauren Sanchez Jeff Bezos pretty well understood. They were both married to other people when they met, and now they're together and she's living with the richest man in the world right. At other times it's total social suicide, right because you can be ostracized for it. Kayla, did you hear about Arian Grande so messy? Well, yes, she supposedly is dating her news she's making a movie of that Broadway show Wicket, and she's supposedly dating

her co star Ethan Slater, and people are shocked. One of the main reasons why they're shocked is that they're both married to other people. Now she's separated, right and now, of course, since it's all you know, since TMC has done their magic and told the whole world everybody seems to be getting separated. But they have supposedly been seeing each other for a few months. Have you seen pictures of this guy? Yeah? Okay, are you gonna say it? Am I gonna say it? I don't get why anybody

will want to um do anything with him. That wasn't exactly what I was gonna say, but it was kind of close. I just think as far as mate status, he's a giant step down for her. He must be one charm in something. I don't know what it is. Not that Pete what's his name? David Comedian was Davidson was so gorgeous. I heard I heard he had he had a Can I say third legoed out being dumped? I think, yeah, I heard you had one of those, So that

gets you a lot further apparently. Yeah, I mean Kim Kardashian enjoyed it for a while. Uh So there's that. And also, comedians, I believe, tend to be the smartest people in the world. So they're smart and lots of other ways mating strategy, and they're just fun to be around. But here's the interesting in the tabloids are doing, and you can google

it online. They're taking pictures of Ethan Slater, the actor who she's allegedly having her relationship with now, and putting it side beside with pictures of her brother, and they look like identical twins. Really, I mean, I guess that's human mating strategy, right. Couldn't marry within the family or people that are likewise in some way? I don't know anyway. Um, the

sadder thing for me because again I don't judge. It's not about morals, but I am here telling everything I'm telling because I care about kids and them not having their own attachment injuries, et cetera. He is married to a singer named Lily Jay since twenty eighteen and they just welcome to baby's son, who I heard an. I know that's the bad part, all right, but I want to say I'm not sitting here at virtuous. Okay. When I was young and dumb and damaged, I had affairs twice with married men

and one two maybe maybe it was three exactly. You know, it gets a little fuzzy back there, um, and you know, and you would think that, being logical and rational, it would the news would be that getting with a partnered person somebody who is unavailable is not a good thing. However, evolutionary psychologists would say that is exactly the thing that makes them attractive.

One of my favorite books is called The Evolution of Desire by doctor David Boss, and he talks about this, that a partnered person has romantic value because it shows that somebody picked them right. They might be good for something,

you know. The number one thing I'll tell girlfriends and they'll be like, Oh, I'm dating this guy and he's really nice and he hasn't had he has never been married, so there's no baggage, there's no kids, and he's and I'm like an how old is he and he's not always forty two? And I'm like, hold stop the trains, hold the horse. What the hell If you get to be half of your lifespan and have never made a commitment to somebody, that's a red flag, Like do you think

you're suddenly going to be the one? And he said, but having said that, I heard a beautiful story today. A friend of mine told me that her brother, who was a confirmed bachelor, but not a playboy bachelor, a more introvert, nerdy engineer, afraid of women bachelor, met a woman and married her within six months when they were both fifty. And they've been married now for ten years, so it can happen. But that's a bit of an anomaly. It's not you know, generally, we like people

like I like guys that another woman has trained. That's what I say. I just want another woman to have gotten in there and shown him like, this is what marriage is. Okay, these are what the ropes are. And if she was a particularly bad wife, all the better for me. Train him and let him dislike you, and then I'll show I'll look good. I should say this, if you are dating a married person, just

break up. Immediately. It's just going to be a mess. It's going to continue to be a mess, unless he's Jeff Bezos and you really want to throw all your chips on the table or somebody like him. I mean, Lauren, I'm not trying to get someone to steal your man. Somebody like that. And you want to throw all your chips down on the table and go for broke, go for it. But if you're sitting there in pain hoping they're going to leave their person for you, break up immediately,

go no contact. Examine the root of why you're doing it. Do you have attachment issues? Some people have an avoidant attachment love married people because then they don't have to worry about actually having a real relationship with them. Or if they have an anxious attachment like I used to, then they're like, oh, he's longing for them and hoping and waiting for them to leave. You also need to remove any temptations to cheat, because the research is very

clear. You know what cheating does, whether you're cheating on them, they're cheating on you, or whatever. It teaches you how to cheat and you can survive it. So you have to move all temptations. Don't go out without your spouse all that stuff, and guess what. All these affairs that you have you think are in a box in the past, forgotten, etc. Remember I told you that I had one or two or five affairs with married men when I was very young. Well, one of them, years

later, decided to tell his wife in therapy. Can you imagine? No, did she find you? I used to have to see her at church? Oh, I know that was so wrong on everything, like he had an abortion with our secret. I was so mad, so mad. I think his wife was a little more mad. But I see why you were mad. Terrible, But you know it's in the best. Go away, all right, let me come back. Do you ever wonder if your marriage is salvageable? Do you ever wonder what would happen if you went to couples

therapy? Well, I'm going to tell you the first ten questions they're going to ask you, so you can think about them before you go in. You're listening to the Doctor Wendy Welsh show on k IF I AM six forty alive everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. You're listening to Doctor Wendy Walsh Onto Man from kf I am sixty am six forty. You have doctor Wendy Walsh with you. This is the Doctor Wendey Walls show. Oh kay law in the home Stretch already, How does that happen? It goes so fast, so

fast, these two hours. I want to remind everybody before I get into is your marriage salvageable and what you can do about it? That you can follow me on social media. My handle everywhere is at doctor Wendy Walsh. That's TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, Facebook, whatever, blah blah blah. And then I have this wonderful Patreon zoom room every Wednesday at six thirty. Some of the people in my zoom room have been there, like, oh gosh, almost two years, and they're from all over the world. It's

a great group of people, many Kafi listeners. And it's not therapy. It's not group therapy even it's really just like a friendship hang and I usually talk about some relationship issue and lots of people share and it's great fun. So you're welcome to join me at Patreon, pa t R e o N dot com slash doctor Wendy. Well, you know, having a long term

monogamous relationship can sometimes be hard work. It's hard because we're always changing and growing, and our partner is always changing and growing too, So at the same time we may be growing into different directions, but there should always be a place in the middle for the two right and that's where the work is to continue to shape that, to be creative in ways that you can keep your relationship strong. I think one of the biggest mistakes. I think couples

make two big mistakes in their marriages. One is allowing, you know, basically the doldrums to set in boredom, not creating enough novelty and interest and newness in their relationship. And this second thing is and I remember asking this marriage and family therapist friend of mine, I said, what is the most common thing that you see in couples therapy? Like when people come in and they present, what are they most often complaining about? What's the biggest issue?

Is it sex? Is it money? Is it family? What is it? And she says, it doesn't matter what it is, whatever it is, it never changes. In other words, there is one core issue that was probably discovered in the first year of marriage. Maybe it was happening the week before the wedding, but it was discovered, and so I think that people don't take the time to work through and resolve. And resolve doesn't

mean one side winning or the other side winning. It means both of you finding workarounds to accommodate the needs of the other so that you can back to each other. So when you go into couples therapy, there is something that most couples therapists do to get you into dealing with that core issue, and they start by priming your brain with positivity so that you remember why you're there,

You remember who you love. So one of the most common questions they might ask is, and I'm asking you to maybe even ask each other this, why do you feel most connected to me? Or when do you feel most connected? Like? What is it? What? At what moment? Julio is not here, I'm wondering what I could ask. If I said to him, when do you feel most connected to me? When you're reading? I would say he loves when you read, He loves when ready and

you're teaching him whatever you're learning. Yeah, yeah, he likes that. I think he likes that when we go to sleep at night, I keep reading and he goes to sleep, and I'm just like they're watching over him like an angel. I don't know if he thinks that. When do I feel most connected to him? When we are in sometimes great debate and sparring with each other, and yes, so good for me. And then the next question I want you guys to ask each other is what do you enjoy

doing most together? You know, I have friends who recently went to couples therapy, and the therapist actually worded it differently. She didn't say what do you enjoy doing most together? She didn't have that together word, So what do you most enjoy doing? And the husband only answered things that didn't have anything to do with her, like hanging out with dudes, go to the gym, working, I like to golf, I like to go on my motorcycle, I like to game, and she's sitting there like, uh okay.

Another question of therapist might have you ask each other is are there things that you use to do together that you'd like to start again. You know, if I had to answer that question today, it would be that Julio and I met during quarantine and we could not be indoors during the beginning of

our relationship, and so I packed so many picnics. We picnicked all over Los Angeles County sometimes Orange County. We found places to picnic and we don't do it anymore because we can go to restaurants so we can sit outside. So that's something I'd like us to get back to, to spread the blanket, sit around and chat. Another question might be what are you most proud of about our life together? Think about it? Why are you there?

What have you accomplished together? Could it be that you've created kids. I'm proud of our family. I'm proud that our kids are healthy and doing well. Or I'm proud that we've built this financial stability, or I'm proud that we do this charity work together. I'm proud that we have this social standing. I'm proud to be seen in public with you. I like the way you look, whatever, Just where's the pride? And if you listen to those questions, when do you feel most connected to me? What do you

enjoy most doing with me? I know dudes are going to say sex, but that's okay. They're allowed to. Hey, I'm not being sexist. Didn't you know that men want sex more often than women? Promise you that that's all in the research. Things like are the things we used to do you'd like to do again? What are you most proud of? What this does is it primes your brain. It gets your brain ready for now problem solving together as a team. So now come the hard questions. What do

you think our biggest issues are? You might be surprised by the answer. Your partner might have a different example, what do you think the biggest issues are, or another way of wording it, what concerns you about us? Now? At this point I want you to open your mind and open your ears and just listen. This is not an opportunity to get defensive. Never should you be saying I don't know why you worry about that. That didn't even matter, that's not even an is show stop it. Just listen.

Just be calm because the next section, section, and maybe in the next session that a therapist might do with you, that you could even try together, is about solving these problems. Simply asking an open ended question, how can we improve our relationship? How can we improve brainstorm together? Or maybe say something like, hey, are there things that you'd like to do together that we've never tried before? Oh, that's what the research says. Novelty

novelty. Novelty, doing new things, putting your partner in a new setting, doing something different can bring feelings of love and attachment. And here's a big one, what can we both do to increase trust in each other? Then, after all the problem solving, you're going to close it by remembering to get back to love. Here's the question, what's the most recent thing

I did for you that you really appreciate? You might not even realize the best thing they want from you, So ask them, what's the most recent thing that I did for you that you really appreciate? Get back to love? And then the biggest question you have to ask right now is are you finally ready for marital counseling? Because that's where the work is. You don't have to be in counseling forever. Plenty of long term relationships have little touch

ups. Look even the Obamas. In Michelle's book, they talk about the therapy that can you imagine being the therapist to the Obamas? That's some big secret holder, but you have to That's how you make it work. You go every once in a while to a licensed therapist who's going to help you solve your core conflict. That is not going to go away on its own. And also if it's boredom, they're going to help you add that novelty that you need to. Oh, okay, are we really at the end?

I can't believe it? Why do it go so far? Every time? I'm here as I have been for the last almost nine years on KFI AM six forty every Sunday. Now it's Doctor Wendy after dark from seven to nine, which I like a lot better. It seems more relaxed, and then we're talking about relationships instead of being in the car with the kids on the way back from a weekend at four o'clock. I like the seven pm thing. Anyway. I'm always here for you every Sunday between seven and nine

pm. You can also follow me on my social media, Kayla. It's always a pleasure to see you. We'll see you next week. You've been listening to the Doctor Wendy Walls showing KFI AM six forty. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. You've been listening to Doctor Wendy Walsh. You can always hear us live on KFI AM six forty from seven to nine pm on Sunday and anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app,

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