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Dr. Wendy’s answering your relationship questions, with her drive-by, makeshift, relationship advice! Also, do you have a child who’s having trouble launching? How you can help them succeed—plus, if you’re considering a divorce, Dr. Wendy’s got 10 things you need to try before you call it quits! Get it all on KFIAM-640!

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You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand kf I AM six forty. You have Doctor Wendy Walsh with you. This is the Doctor Wendy Walsh Show. I'm taking your calls and answering your social media questions. Reminder, I'm not a therapist. This is not mental health counseling. This is a little bit of wise wisdom from a woman who happens to have a PhD in clinical

psychology. I'm a psychology professor. I've written three books on relationships and well, I've had a lot of bad relationships in my life and I've learned a lot, so I'm happy to share my wisdom. If you'd like to call in, the number is one eight hundred five two zero one five three four. That's one eight hundred five two zero one KFI. Okay, Producer, Kayla, Who do we have? First? We have best with the question best b e ss Bess, Hi, Bess. Hello, It's test with

Okay, y with a C or a T? No? A T like is in Thomas? Oh like Tess? Tess? Yeah? Hi? Test? How are you do? I for what I'm going through? I am wonderful. Oh what are you going through? Love. I recently, within this last week, found out thesode gentlemen that I've been seeing for the last year has five other women on the string and one that he's been living with for a long time. Oh that is heartbreaking. And I hope you heard the earlier segment where I told everybody it's not your fault. Okay, these

I did not, but I know it's not. These men are sociopaths. The guy for those on Instagram, I just want to say, she's been dating a guy for more than a year and found out that he has five women on the string and one he's living with. You not test. My best friend years ago was dating a guy on and off for like eight or nine years. Turns out he was living with another woman and having kids with her, and she never knew. Right, So it's not our fault,

but going forward, it is our responsibility to set boundaries. So you do have to completely do no contact. You know that, right, And you're still going to feel a loss, even though you're mad at him, even though you hate him, You're still going to feel a loss. It's like Gangreene, that leg had to go, but it has to go. So I want you to be strong, not talk to him again and not completely lose hope. That's the thing. We get jaded, and we get critical

and cynical. I don't want that to happen to you, Tess. So next time around, I want you to open your heart and just be really observant of any little red flags. I'm so sorry that happened. Oh breaks my heart. I've been there though, I've been there. Okay, Producer, Kayla, who do we have next? We have Jackie with the question Jackie. Hello Jackie, it's doctor Wendy. Hi, doctor Wendy, thank

you for your time. I'm currently studying Chinese medicine and I was a sequel mother, and I am not in a pace for I can date right now. But I wondered if you had any advice for me. I have great advice for you. Yes, really great advice for you. So Jackie is a single mother, she's in medical school, she's not in a place where she can date. But what is her advice? So I want to say

this, I was a single mother for eighteen years with little kids. I did not want to expose my girls to any bad romantic choice that I might make. So that's what I held in my heart is I don't want to do this to my girls, because I've picked some bad ones in the past and I don't want them around my kids. I also read a terrible statistic that said kids are most in danger when they're living in the home with an unbiologically related male mommy's boyfriend, husband, stepbrother, whatever. I was like,

no, I got little girls. I don't want that to happen. But there are ways that you can get the benefits of single life without dating. For instance, for the touch, make sure you get regular massages, make sure you cuddle your kids, maybe get a pet to pet. For the social support, I started cooking dinners on Sunday, where I'd invite any parents. I'd meet at the preschool, the elementary school, and I'd have a kid's table. I'd say, you bring the wine, I'll bring them

pasta, whatever. And I started inviting people being the host so that I had the social support. I had the village around me. When I would meet men, I would say to them, listen, I'm a three pack. Here's the deal. I am not going to be entering into a relationship. If you did, oh, I won't lie to you. I did have some little romantic compartments on the side, but I didn't drag my kids

through that. I remember years later, when my daughter was in her twenties, she's like, how did how would you said you dated so and so? How did you I'm like, you'll never know. Okay, you'll never know when or where or how I did it. But that's what you gotta do because you only have your kids for eighteen years, yet you're going to live for eighty so there are plenty of time to date other people. Jackie, I'm so glad you asked me that question. Okay, Producer Kayla,

who do we have next? We have Sarah with the question. Sarah, Hi, Sarah, it's doctor Wendy. Hello, doctor, thank you for taking my call, my pleasure. What's your question? Love? Oh? I made a gentleman of um younger than me. He's attorney professional and I am my own my own business and UM well educated. Ask for as me and him is educated? And how many years younger? How old is he Katie Speman? And how old are you? Sixty two? Uh huh? So what's your what's your plan? What are you looking for? Do you

do you either of you have kids? Um? On my kids is grown up, your kids are grown up? And yeah, m hmmm, and does he have kids? Mutual attraction? I'm sorry, does he have kids? No? No, no? Does he want kids? I didn't ask and we just had dinners twice. That's a big question. And I'll tell you why. I have no problem with May December relationships. The age is nothing but a number. However, reproduction is often urgent, no matter what your gender. So if he's thirty seven years old and has no kids and

says he wants a family, you're like setting yourself up for heartbreak. On the other hand, there's that wonderful documentary online right now of Mary Tyler Moore and in her sixties she met a guy who was a very young doctor and it is like late twenties and they were together until she passed away and had a wonderful love relationship. So again you want to talk about stage of life.

And I also want to remind you this, even though he's younger and has a career, you actually have more power because the older person in every age difference relationship has more wisdom and more life experience. So I say, go for it, but ask all the right questions so you're not just setting yourself up for heartbreak. I mean, why not thirty seven years old? You can go for it all right? Do we have somebody else's should go to social media? Oh? Of course we have people we got We asked

Shirley with a question. Surely, Hi, surely it's doctor Wendy him. Yes, doctor Wendy. I have a question. My ex husband and I have been divorced for about thirty five years, and we came back in contact with each other a year ago because our son passed away. Oh my god, I'm so sorry, thank you. And so I've been single for seventeen years. He's been single for about eight years his wife passed away, and I kind of think we might be forming a connection. But I'm not sure,

and I don't know. I don't want to blow it. But how do I How could you blow it? Well? I could say something to him, like, for instance, they're having a birthday party at my daughter's house and he lives in to Mexico and I live in Oklahoma, and he was telling my daughter he wants to come to the party. Well that kind of makes me feel like that maybe maybe if I say something like I want you to come, I'm fraid I'm gonna be too forward. Oh, so

here's how you get around that. Okay, So first of all, you can say you're welcome to come, which is very different than I want you to come, right, ok Yeah, you're welcome to come. Just want to make you know. Our daughter mentioned that you're interested in coming. I want you to know you're welcome to come, and that sounds like a family invitation. You know, It's really common for people who have been separated for

a long time to come together over grief. I've even known of couples who, you know, fought so much during the early years of raising the kids they couldn't stand each other, and then the kids grew up and they went back and got married because what they had was the love affair at the beginning. That all came later. So I think I wouldn't worry too much. I think I would just um, you know, allow the circumstances. In

other words, allow him to show up. Don't be too forward, and don't be too you know, pulling back, and just see what happens. I mean, you're both grieving right now, and that you're grieving over the loss of somebody that both of you have invested in that both of you care about, and so it's so understandable that it can be confusing that your feelings

of sadness bringing the two of you together. But let happen what is meant to happen, and maybe there's going to be love there, maybe not, but we have to stay in the land of unknowing in order for love to grow. I'm so sorry about your loss, surely, but I'm so happy to hear that you've rekindled this connection. I love family. Thank you so much for calling, and if you would like to call, the number is one eight hundred five two zero one five three four. That's one eight hundred

five two zero one. KFI you are listening to the Doctor Wendy Walls Show on kf I AM six forty Ever live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. You're listening to kf I AM six forty on demand KFI AM six forty you have Doctor Wendy Walsh with you. This is the Doctor Wendy Walsh Show. I'm doing my drive by makeshift relationship advice. I'm happy to take your calls and personally way in on what I think you should do. All right, who do we have on the line. We have Mike with the question. Okay,

Hi Mike, it's doctor Wendy. Hi, doctor Wendy. So I've been married to my wife for twenty years. About a year ago, she was a really nar she was an narcissist for twenty years, belittle me, furate me, and insult me in front of her family, just terribly, terribly. About a year ago, I said, you know, I'm done, I'm leaving. She came and said, I'm going to change, and she did Wow, except I am now, I am not in it anymore. That that day was the day the music died for me. And I'm

not happy. Even though she's changed, I can't find the catalyst to leave, and I'm unhappy. It's so interesting because you know, when I was in therapist school, if you will graduate school, I remember a teacher saying to me what a therapist should be asking in the back of their head when somebody presents some kind of problem is what is the function of the dysfunction?

And so that's the question I would ask you that if we could say the dysfunction in the situation, Mike, is that she constantly nagged you and belittled you and you hated it, but you hated it for twenty years, so it served a function in some way. Then, according to you, she cleaned up her act. She's no longer critical, she's a nice person. You've lost attraction for her, do you see what I mean? Right?

So I would say that this is a great opportunity for not necessarily couples therapy, but individual therapy, for you to go figure out what was it that kept you attached for twenty years to somebody who treated you badly. Now it could be that at this point she's gotten kind, but it's too little, too late. In other words, you're like, there, I don't really believe it. I don't trust it. I know the real you. It's

happened twenty years. That may be what you're feeling, or it may be something else entirely, maybe that you need someone nagging you because for some reason, that feels like love, that feels familiar, even though you hate it. See, that's the thing. Our models for love are created in our early life, and sometimes we will go into these relationships that remind us of our nagging mother or our abusive father, and we hate it and we don't like it, but it's what we know, and we get attached that way.

So I really highly recommend that you try some individual therapy before you jump, before you make this decision to leave your marriage. But thanks for calling, Mike. I really appreciate it. I know it's quite a dilemma, all right, Producer, Kayla or Christina? Who do we have? We have Diana with the question. Diana, Hi, Diana, it's doctor Wendy Hid. It's so good to hear you. I'm a big fan of yours. Oh thank you. Yeah. So I'm calling from New York and I'm

on evenly by the way from Europe. So but just okay, it does maybe really matter. So the question is I just explained that, you know, I'm dating someone. It's been one year and he makes significantly more than I do. Um. He also says I'm attective to successful women like all the time, you know, and he's been married before he was making like almost as much as he does, and yeah, it makes me feel insecure. So well, it sounds like it sounds like he might be making it

an issue by making these comments about I usually date successful women. Is that? What is it when he says that that it brings these feelings of insecurity. Up now, I'm sorry. I think I didn't explain it. Okay, So he said he actually didn't date successful women. It's actually was the opposite. However, he also says, I am attective to successful women, and I know from his you know past, he's been married to like, you know, she was making pretty good money. So this is all coming

from you. It's not like he's dangling it in front of you and I'm plying. Okay, So this makes it. This makes a difference. So I want to know, like, why you think you have less to give to the relationship, because, like who told you bringing money to the party is the most important part of a love relationship? Where'd you learn that? Um? It just looks my life experience. Maybe I'm cynical. I think that's kind of truth, But you know, I feel like around like people

like break up because of this issue all the time. So in your mind, there's a rule that says that men and women must make the exact same amount of money, or the woman must make more to keep the man. Is that what you think? I'm just curious. Um, I just think that because it's faith. Even in friendship, there is only friendship if there is equality between two partners. Ah, I think there is no inequality. How is he even going to respect me? You know? Well, I

think of a child. Here's what I want to share with you that financially finances are one way that you can examine a relationship. But a relationship is an exchange of care. That care can take many forms. It can be financial care, it can be sexual care. It can be domestic responsibility care. It can be emotional support care. It can be intellectual stimulation care. It can be childcare. What you are holding in your body is a womb

and eggs that are far more valuable than any bank account. If you were to talk to an evolutionary psychologist, he would say or she would say, that men should have more money to impress a woman and keep her near because she's caring the most expensive thing that exists in the human species, which are

human eggs. You know that. Could you imagine that your job was to go out and convince somebody to donate their body to you for nine months and potentially even a high risk pregnancy that could kill them, and then devote eighteen years of their lives to raising your jeans. Guys have to think about that every day. How are they going to get a woman to cooperate and you are feeling insecure. You're feeling insecure, Diana, like somehow you have you're

bringing less to the party. You know, even if we're not talking about eggs, bringing kindness, bringing joy. You know, my sweet boyfriend Julio needs to eat more cooked tomatoes. For those who know about prostate males prostates, you'll understand what this is. More cooked tomatoes. So today he was out for a few hours. I made a giant, big pot of boulonnaise sauce. I put it all in a little tupperware containers in the freezer for him, so they can always have it to just warm up whenever he needs

it, whenever he needs a quick meal. That didn't cost me much money. I hope he didn't come home and say, whoa wait, I pay for an expensive dinner sometime. Where did you buy some Trader Joe's tomatoes? No? No, no. Relationships should never be about keeping score calculating money. They should be about caring for the other person, investing in the relationship, and knowing that you are good enough. You are good enough, Diana,

Thanks for calling producer Kaylie. Do have time for one more or somebody, well, somebody just connected with somebody earlier. She had a question, and the question was Yeah. Julia's situation was that her husband is a cop and his whole life is private to her. She said that nothing is in her name and she doesn't work, so she's wondering what she can do now. She didn't sound too happy. Sounds like she's in a cult, not a cop. Yeah. I don't think it has to do necessarily with what

he does for a living. It's control. He's trying to control and not share. And my answer would be why does she say there? So she's someone who is a victim of what we call financial abuse. Women who are not allowed to see the finances, have access to the bank accounts, have anything in their name, are being controlled. It's a form of stalking. It's a form of domestic violence. She should reach out to the National Domestic Violence Hotline. She should reach out to a therapist. It's not okay,

wow, okay. When we come back, we're going to move from romantic love into something else. Do you have a young adult in your house who's failing to launch one of your kids. It's a big trend right now. We need to talk about this. You're listening to the Doctor Wendy Walsh Show and kf I Am six forty. We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. You're listening to kf I Am six forty on demand. I Am six forty. You have Doctor Wendy Walsh. This is the Doctor Andy Walsh Show.

Okay, just between you and I had a thing with my just turned twenty year old daughter this week. I just feel like it's taking forever for her to launch. She's not you know, she has lots of learning differences. She's not college bound, and she had a I'm very proud of her. She has a driver's lize, in's a car. She works. She's worked at a job for a year. But she had an extra little weekend job and she quit it. And that bothered me because I was just like,

like when I was your age, I had fourteen jobs. I was trying to bank money so I can move and go out. She's like, I don't I don't actually want to leave you. I should take that as a compliment, shouldn't I She doesn't want to leave her mother. There is research to show that the generation emotionally most effective by COVID nineteen pandemic, the quarantine

time. We're young adults, teenagers and young adults, because this the time they're supposed to be getting together in packs and finding each other, stepping stones away from their family of origin. But where were they. They were in their dark bedrooms on zoom and TikTok for two years. Okay, So it's like they missed two years of development. I'll tell you. I noticed it when I got back in the university classroom. We had taught on zoom for

a year and a half. The students came back and I have never seen so much social anxiety, so much nervousness. I put them in discussion groups to talk and solve some kind of question, and I go rove around the room and they're all staring at their phones. I'm just like, no, no, put the phones away. Let's debate this question. Let's talk about it. Okay. So I found a twenty twenty Pew research study. So

this is really before the pandemic. So it was data from twenty nineteen that said that fifty two percent of eighteen through twenty nine year olds we're living at home with their parents, the highest person scentage since the Great Depression. I'll bet you that number is even higher now. So if you have a twenty two year old, twenty three year old, twenty five year old, twenty eight year old, twenty nine year old living in your house, you're still

the majority now. When I was coming up, we all launched, grew our wings, flew from that nest. When we turned eighteen, my mom had a strategy, which was on our eighteenth birthday. She had two rules. If you were in school full time, you could live in her house for free. If you were not, you had to pay one hundred dollars back this long time ago, a one hundred dollars a month rent. Do you know how insulted I was to pay for laundry and food because I had

gotten it for free my whole life. I swear I paid that girl rent one time, and I went and got roommates, and I was out right. I was done. So maybe I'm not as okay. So let's talk about what are the things that are helping some of our young adults fail to launch. Some of them just have poor self management skills, poor task initiation, poor emotional regulation. There is a lot of parental enablement going on you're listening. I'm talking to me. Look, it's it's never easy to see

our kids struggle and tough. Love is hard to do, and then we live like what if they end up like homeless if we're too tough on them? Like where is that boundary? I had a conversation with a friend the other day whose daughter has some disabilities, and she's like, I know, I want to be strong with her so she succeeds, but then I want to be kind too. It's so hard. Also, some of these kids missed very important rites of passage. Now, rights of passage are very important

times where you go through a graduation, a culmination, move forward. If you are in your bed on TikTok for two years, you missed a lot of these things. Okay, so they don't know, like the is ticking. We had a graduation, you know. My daughter, my other daughter graduated from Harvard during the pandemic. We watched it on video. It was terrible. She wasn't there. We were in the living room in gowns. They FedEx them the cap and gown. They sat in the couch. It

was terrible. Some of our kids have substance abuse disorders. Some of our kids have mental health disorders. Some of our kids have learning differences or motivation issues. So what do you do well? The first important thing is I'm talking to me here. Sorry. We need to set clear expectations that we feel are fair and appropriate for each individual child. There should not be one rule for every kid in our house. They're all different and they all have

different parents. Even though you think you're the same parent, you're very different to each one of them. I promise you are. So your expectations might include things like chores, cleaning dishes. My daughter's really good at all that, I will say that helping to cook meals. You may expect reasonable employment, whether it's even part time employment. And yes, that means driving them to them all, going door to door with them, asking for applicant.

And you know what the managers say, it's all online. You a planline. That's why they always say online, online, online, But that's why you go visit. That's how my daughter got her job. She went in and said, Hi, I submitted my application online. Could I see the manager? Can I tell her where to go? Look for it? Right? Go in as a face and let them see. Yes, you may need to drive them. You need to walk them in. That's what you got to do. Don't just nag at them, help them, right.

You also have to consider consequences. So do you go from you didn't do the dishes, you're kicked out? What you have to think of small consequences for small failings, right. I know a woman who's a single mom, and she said that her son is in the basement trying to build an empire selling like sneakers online or something. I don't know what that means. Do you buy them from one and sell them on another site? And it's a whole thing, right, yeah, that's it's a thing. But mostly he's

playing video games and ordering door Dash. And she said to me, I cook meals. There's food in the fridge. Why does he ordered door Dash? And I said to her, who pays for the door Dash? And she said, well I do because he's hungry. I'm like, okay, Well there's the first problem. The first boundary should be no door Dash. There's food in the fridge, right, and if you want it, you

gotta pay for it exactly. And then you also have to think of small consequences, like, for instance, I know it's really hard if they don't put the dishes in the dishwasher, leave them there. You know, a friend of mine let her son. Her son was the coffee cup in his bedroom guy until they totally ran out of coffee cups and she switched to paper cups for herself. Until his room had so many coffee cups that he had to one day bring them all out and put them in the dishwasher. Okay,

that's the walk of seam. Yeah, you have to have to do it at some point, right, So you got to figure out what those boundaries are. I also highly suggest if your kid won't go to their or coaching or whatever, that you do it. There's a woman I have on speed dial who's her name is Cynthia Widham. I'm just going to stay it out there. She works at UCLA. I met her at the neuropsych Institute

whatever years ago. She has a private practice. I'm West La, and she works with parents to tell them how to parent, basically, especially with teenage kids. So one of the times I went to her, I go every once in a while. I said, Okay, so my daughter, I'm just so tired of doing laundry. I just can't take it, and she goes, why are you doing your laundry then, and I said, well, because you know it piles up in it needs to be done and

whatever. And she said, okay, here's what do you hate about laundry. I said, hate folding it? Hey, putting it away. I don't man putting it in the washer or the dryer. But it just this pile, It just keeps growing on the dryer. And she goes, okay, I want you to go to your daughter. I think she was like fourteen fifteen then, and you say to her, I no longer am going to fold your laundry. Where would you like me to put it? And she pointed to a corner of the carpet in her room and she said,

on this corner of my car. And I said okay. And so Cynthia Wiham said, now it's your job to not fold the laundry and keep putting it on that corner. And I said, but every time I walk by, if I see the pile just getting bigger. But she goes, then you should close the bedroom door. This is your problem, it is not their problem. These are her clothes, this is her room. Let her

live it. So I watched the pile get bigger and bigger. And bigger, And one day the door happened to be cracked open, and that carpet was empty, and everything was put away neatly. And now she's the neatest girl with her uncle. You know why, because she couldn't find her stuff. She was digging through the pile and it was everywhere. So she learned to fold her own stuff and put it away. To this day, that's got to be five, six, seven, eight, nine years ago.

To this day she has the neatest closet you've ever seen. But I had to walk by and put blinders on and not look at that pile. So this is a long thing to say. You know what, parents, sometimes you need counseling on how to have boundaries and how to think up good consequences for your young adult kid or your teenager or your young kid. You don't have to force them into therapy. You can force yourself into therapy so you can learn how to behave with them. So anyway, but also relax,

you're not alone. If you have a young adult at home now. If they have substance abuse issues, you've got to get them help. If they have mental health issues, you've got to get them help. The problem is if they're over eighteen, you can't legally force them into anything. And that's why I suggest going to therapy yourself so that you can get some strategies on how to deal with this. And I know it's scary to think we're going

to turn our kids out on the street. Oh my mom did was charge me a little rent and then before you know it, I was out there. Okay, listen, plenty of people get into marriages and somewhere around seven to fourteen years. I find that's my opinion. You get into the adult rooms of the marriage. You look at that person in your life. Why did I marry this person? This person I'm not even attracted to anymore? Wait, I'm supposed to have sex with this person? What the heck?

This is normal? Your marriage is in the duldrums? Does that mean it's headed for divorce court? Not necessarily. When we come back. Things that you should try before giving up on your marriage. You're listening to The Doctor Wendy Walls Show and kf I AM six forty but live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. You're listening to kf I AM six forty on demand. Kf I Am six forty. You have Doctor Wendy wallsh with you. This is actually

the home stretch of the Doctor Wendy Walls Show. Last segment what two hours goes by fast? Doesn't? Producer Kayla, it flew by tonight. It's so much funny. I had two producers. That's why producer Christina here as well. She did great with the music today, by the way, really fun. They make a lot of give me one munch. I'm surprised you knew that old throwback country. So I love it. I love it.

Well. You know I have a double life, right, I also own a place in a rural area and a drop sport truck and drive a Ford truck without listen to country music, right girl, I'll come to La again in mon Tesla and I listen to my jazz. Just saying of a double life. So I was having lunch with a friend whose marriages and the duldrums as many marriages are, you know, Kayla on the break brought up the movie seven Year Itch, right, the Mail Monroe movie that is all about

like after a certain point the excitement goes down. That doesn't mean that the quality of the relationship doesn't has to go down. It doesn't mean that you're not attached, right. So I was giving my friend advice based on just the research I read all the time, and I apply this to my relationship with Julio. So, Huli and I have only been together for three years. He keeps saying it's a new relationship, and I keep saying, we

need to make sure that it always feels new. So, like tomorrow, we both have the day off, and I said, why don't we drive and eat somewhere we ate in the early days of our dating. Let's just find a place that we have good memories. He because, don't you do that when you've been married, like twenty years go back to I go no, no, even now too. So the research shows that long term, committed, happy people do often revisit, either mentally or physically, the early

days of their relationship. Remember where we went on our first date. Remember the time when we got caught in the rain at that place. Oh my god, that was And so it puts your brain back in that place. But in the same sense, we also need newness. So we like sameness, and we need newness. That's such a star our brain works. So that means doing different things with your partner that you've never done before. This is hard to do when you've been together a really long time because you know

each other inside and out. You know what you like, you know what they like. You just kind of do the same things. But finding something different and getting off the couch and saying we are going to do this is a good idea. And here's an example. I have heard that some couples

do this. It's called the glass bowl the glass bowl game. You keep a glass bowl somewhere in your house and whenever either of you has an idea of a thing you'd like to do sometime, a museum you'd like to go to, a restaurant you'd like to try, a hiking trail you haven't been on a yoga retreat, skydiving, I don't know. A race car driving on the week. You know, if you do that, you can rent like a race car and go to track or to Porsha track down there.

I think they do it down a Manhattan beature hing whatever. Anything, write it down, put it on the piece of paper. Okay, yes, you can put new sexual positions there too. Okay. Everything. And then every once in a while, when you're starting to feel bored with your relationship or you're fighting or whatever. We're going to the bowl. We're going to the bowl, and you pull out and you have a deal. You open that paper and you have to do whatever's in there. Right. It doesn't

matter who put it in. It's random. It's going to be random. Ncause makes it exciting. But you have to People say relationships are work. That's what the work is, and it should be joyful work. You should think when you do something for your partner that you don't want to do or you it's not about them taking something from you. It's about you investing in

the relationship and investing for the future. So producer Kayla and I have a favorite researcher, doctor John Gottman, the Marriage Lab of the University of Washington, and here are some things that he suggests to try before giving up on your marriage. Number one, complain without blame. Are you in the habit of totally criticizing your partner and blaming them for all your problems? Guess what it's better to say instead of saying, like you're always late, how about

I was really worried when you didn't call me. That's the truth. Stay on your feelings right. Also, learn to Number two, pair conflicts skillfully. Don't put aside resentments that can destroy your relationship. I want you to talk about things rather than dismissing them. Because that water under the bridge flows back. Trust me, you have to deal with it. The healthiest couples have tiny little fights on a regular basis. Number three, he calls it,

stay focused on the issues at hand. I call it, don't flood right, focus on just the deal that you're talking about. Oh and another thing. Oh, this sounds like last week when you did that. Right, don't go there, Stay on one thing. Now, here's a big one, he suggests. And I'm a big believer in this. Boost your physical affection. Hold hands, hug, touch, It releases oxytocin, dope

and meine serotonin. It calms you down. I mentioned that Julio and I have been a part in the last week or two, and we back together and I've been sleepy and calm and relax. I can feel the oxytocin and dopamine flowing through my body. So even though the person's driving you crazy, touch them more, even though they're being avoidant, reach out to them. Nurt your fondness and admiration. I say, remember why you valued your partner,

Remember why you were there in the first place. And instead of always insisting on your way, because it never feels good to win a fight when they go, oh all right, think instead about where your common ground is for both of you. Also, spend time together. You know, I know partners who say, you know, my relationships so boring right now, we're just adding excitement by doing things separately a lot. We're just going out and doing different things. That's not the way to it. Find new things

to do together. Communicate honestly about all the key issues. I've heard people say, I don't know how to tell my husband this, so I'm just not going to bring it up. No, bring it up. Find a way to bring it up. And finally, and this is a big one, practice not only forgiveness, but practice gratitude. You know, if you are constantly thinking about what your partner has not done for you lately, if you're constantly thinking about the problems in the relationship, of course the next step

is going to be divorced about. Ask yourself why you were there in the first place, what they do right, how you value them, and if they had made mistakes. Be the bigger person and forgive, learn to forgive, learn to accept people. At the end of my lunch with my friend, you know, she was saying, Oh, you know my husband, all he does is work or this or that, and he likes to go to the gym and he doesn't like to do the thing. I said, maybe that's what it all. He's got accept it. That's who he is,

and it's okay. Everybody's not meant to be a clone of us. They're different people, they really are. Our partner is a different person. So forgive them for their faults, have gratitude, and then you will remind your brain of why you're there in the first place. You have been listening to the Doctor Wendy Walsh Show. I invite you to join my Patreon. We have zoom rooms every Wednesday at six thirty. The handle is patreon dot com slash doctor Wendy Walsh. It's like ten bucks a month. It's but

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